Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #605 - FBI Agent FORCED Out Over Left Political Bias, Escorted Out Of Bureau w/ Peter Navarro
Episode Date: August 31, 2022Tim, Ian, & Lydia join Peter Navarro to discuss a politicized FBI agent being fired, Navarro's true story of his arrest, Portland Antifa taking the streets and harming their own, Google banning Truth ...Social on the app store, and Mississippi's water crisis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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An FBI agent accused of suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop investigation, among other acts
of political bias, was escorted out of the bureau building, resigned.
And there's conflicting reports as to whether or not this was just a resignation and escorting
someone out is totally normal or this is something more serious.
And I think despite the reporting to the contrary, it is more serious because this individual
was placed on leave and the resignation was probably one of those things where they're
like, I demand your resignation over this.
And then the guy resigned.
So maybe this is good news.
We'll talk about that because the greater context, Donald Trump is livid, calling out
this FBI agent saying he was fired.
Joe Biden is now coming out saying the attacks on the FBI are are egregious.
But I just got to tell you, man, more and more we look at it. The FBI looks completely corrupt and it's actually pretty scary.
So we'll get into all that. We got a bunch of other stories. We have Taiwan firing warning
shots at a Chinese drone. This is creepy because we also have conflicting reports. CNN says an
unidentified drone. We don't know. And NBC says it was a Chinese drone. So who's CNN covering for?
And then we got this crazy story out of Portland.
These people took over the city for street racing or whatever.
Many of them are Antifa leftist types who want lawlessness.
And they started shooting at some old guy and then killed one of their own.
This is what's happening on the streets in this country.
So we'll get into all that and much, much more.
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Joining us today to talk about the FBI, Donald Trump, corruption is Peter Navarro.
Tim, really good to be back with you here, sir. In the rural Maryland, it's just a sweet
little spot out here. And you got the music going on during the day and does good stuff at night.
Do you want to introduce yourself, what you did, who you are?
Sure.
I am one of only three senior White House advisors who served with President Trump in the White House, starting all the way from the campaign in 2016 to what we like to joyfully call the end of his first term,
just to make it clear that he's still very much in the game. My bag, as it were, was dead center, deplorable, make America great again, Trump republicanism.
My remit for the first three years of the Trump White House, Tim, was to create blue collar manufacturing jobs in America.
And in order to do that, we had to do a combination of things.
One, we had to level the playing field internationally with trade cheaters,
which at the top of that list was, of course, communist China. So I was known as, along with Brother Steve Bannon before he exited the White House, as the China hawks.
And then the second way to go about bringing manufacturing home was to prosecute aggressively the Buy America, Hire America policies of the administration.
So I was, I mean, one of the triumphs, I think, of the Trump administration was to, first of all, get tough on China.
But second of all, to bring in the old Reagan Democrats, the Trump Democrats that became Republicans, because we really
focused like a laser on good jobs and good wages for the people.
So it was an interesting four years.
But part of the reason I'm here, I got this new book out called Taking Back Trump's America. The mission of that book is to
win back the House of Representatives in 2022 in November. We'll talk more about that later,
I'm sure, but also put Trump back in the White House in 2024. But really, the importance of the
book is to talk about the difference between Trump Republicanism and RINOs, the Republican name only.
So that's what Biden is drawing a distinction between right now, saying the MAGA Republicans, semi-fascism and all that stuff.
So we'll get in all that.
You were also they also arrested you, I believe.
Right.
Yeah, I guess I buried the lead there.
Yeah. They also arrested you, I believe, right? Yeah, I guess I buried the lead there.
Yeah, right.
Shackled.
Said you were leg irons, baby.
They put you in leg irons.
They put me in leg irons.
The bigger story here, let me give context.
Well, I don't want to get into it before we get started. Okay, so they put me in leg irons and solitary confinement,
denied me an attorney, kept me in solitary confinement in a dungeon.
They seemed to be happy about the fact that I was in the same cell that John Hinckley sat in after he shot Reagan.
This seems to be kind of something that's stuck in their minds. It's like the guy who created hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs in the White House
and during the pandemic saved hundreds of thousands of lives
was sitting in the same cell as the guy who shot Ronald Reagan.
Okay, that's the FBI, folks, as we know.
We'll go off on him a little bit later.
Yes, sir.
So thanks for joining us.
We also have Hannah Clare Brimelow.
Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow.
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
Very easy. Yeah, sure. What's up, dudes? Ian ian crossland here man peter i'm glad you're talking about
industrialization my brother ian yo good to see you so i don't know if you're familiar but we can
retrieve carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and deposit okay graphing bearing the lead so
how about we get into the show already this show is hot i'll tell you about it so it's a way i
think that we can bridge the gap between environmentalists and national industrialists. You know, it's funny you say that,
if I may here. It's like, my background, by the way, and don't hold this against me,
I have a PhD in economics from Harvard. So it's like, this is kind of, it's like,
this is my wheelhouse. And the idea that we could ever solve the issue of carbon dioxide
emissions on the demand side is ludicrous because no matter how much you would ever restrict carbon
consumption here in the united states and in europe whatever we did would be far outstripped
by growth of that in India and particularly China.
I mean, so it's frigging absurd.
It's frigging absurd.
But to his point, just carbon capture on the supply side, if you're going to do this, that's what we should focus on.
Yeah, you do it with methane and carbon dioxide.
We'll get into that.
Yes, we will.
Tim's getting out of control.
I know.
You guys, I'm very excited for this show.
We're going to have a great time in case you guys didn't already notice.
Let's jump into it.
Let's go.
Actually, no.
No.
We're getting jammed up again.
I just want to give a shout out.
We can pull this up to Tom McDonald, who's currently number three on the rap and hip
hop iTunes.
Because I was saying the other day, if you don't want to support our music, Tom McDonald's
got better stuff than we do. And if everybody just bought his stuff,
the point is just to take over the culture,
to create more culture.
And he's certainly doing it.
So he tweeted out that he's currently number three on iTunes
because I was shouting him out.
So you guys rock.
And shout out Tom McDonald.
And he was like, fake woke's like a really old song.
All of a sudden, it's popping up on the charts
because Tim's shouting it out.
Yeah.
But yeah, man, it's about affecting culture, man. let's jump into this first story finally here we go from the
post-millennial fbi agent accused of suppressing hunter biden laptop investigation resigns escorted
out of building now this story is really interesting because there's conflicting reports
as to whether or not he just resigned or he was forced to resign. And the story from The Washington Times is that this guy, Tim Tubalt, retired over the
weekend, but was previously on leave for about a month.
According to The Washington Times, Tubalt retired over the weekend on Friday.
Eyewitness accounts state he was seen exiting the Washington Bureau's elevator while being
escorted by two or three headquarters-looking types.
Tubalt was named by Senate Judiciary Ranking Member Chuck Grassley in a July letter to
FBI Director Wray and Attorney General Merrick Garland that cited whistleblowers who alleged
political bias from high-ranking officials.
According to Grassley, the whistleblowers said the FBI and Justice Department employees
must follow strict guidelines to open an investigation, and Tabalt did not follow them.
He said, as you are aware, Assistant Special Agent in Charge Tim Tebalt, probably pronouncing it right, is not the only politically biased FBI agent at the Washington field office. Adding,
the FBI answers to Congress and the American people. Tebalt was one of 13 special agents
in charge at the Washington field office and had been under fire from Republicans in Congress after
it was revealed that he made anti-Trump posts on social media in the lead up to the 2020 election while he was supposed to be
helping to direct the investigation of Hunter Biden. Well, as we know from these whistleblowers,
the FBI blocked that. Now, Donald Trump came out and said this is the guy that was leading the
raid on Mar-a-Lago. Other media outlets have come out and said that's not true. But this guy's the
Washington field office and it was the Washington field office that was in charge of this. So all of the news coming out is conflicting. Fox News said it's
unceremonious that he was escorted out. That's normal. And that it was just a resignation.
While the Washington Times saying he says he's being forced out. Who do you believe now? This
is the challenge. So, Peter, what's going on? Is the FBI a bunch of a bunch of good guys just
trying to help help us all live better lives?
Are they going after the criminals or are they Biden's personal Gestapo?
Yeah. Let's put this in historical context.
If you go back to the days of J. Edgar Hoover, the FBI has a has a very tawdry history of abusing the agency for political ends. Martin Luther King, I think,
was the poster child of the wrath of God, aka J. Edgar, but many others felt the investigatory
weaponization of that agency. So that supposedly went away. But I would argue, and Tim,
let's put this Hunter Laptop Biden incident in its broader historical perspective. And we start
when I was on the campaign in 2016 with Donald Trump in Trump Tower in Manhattan.
Prior to the 2016 election, the so-called Russia hoax began.
The Russia hoax is a discredited Russia hoax,
which was supposed to somehow tie Trump as some kind of puppet of Putin, right? It's just, it was a Democrat operative
funded by Hillary Clinton that got it started,
but it was the FBI, agents like Peter Strzok,
Lisa Page, Comey himself, others.
And that was where the first preemptive coup
was attempted on Donald Trump.
OK, what they wanted to do prior to the election was taint him with the Russia hoax and Hillary would win.
That didn't work. But that Russia hoax continued for several years, led by former FBI director Mueller.
And they took they took a lot of prisoners to him, a lot of casualties.
I mean, Mike Flynn, I love that guy.
I was with him in the Trump Tower during the transition.
We had great plans.
He's going to be the national security advisor.
We were going to crack down on China.
It would have made a real difference.
They got him in an entrapments game.
They got George Papadopoulos.
They got Paul Manafort.
They did an over-the-top raid of Roger Stone with frogmen and guns blazing leaks to CNN.
There's a pattern here.
That's my point here, Tim.
There's a pattern here.
Preemptive coup prior to 2016, a coup they attempted throughout the years that Trump was in.
And fast forward to Hunter Biden
laptop, they succeeded in that coup. If you believe two things, one, Mark Zuckerberg says
the FBI told him to suppress any information about the Hunter Biden laptop prior to the election.
And the FBI had that thing for over a year they knew the information
was accurate that that guy was was was into pornography crack and most importantly influence
peddling but it's not just that it's that there's connections between him and his dad and their
business dealings which is i think more than just being a bad person according to mark the fbi game
a general warning like hey watch out for misinformation. And then Mark took it upon himself to censor the Biden thing.
Except whistleblowers came out and said that they knew the Hunter Biden laptop thing was happening and they should not investigate it because they didn't want to interfere in the election.
At the same time, went to Mark Zuckerberg and said, hey, we want to actually put our thumb on the scale.
So watch out for the information we deem to be misinformation.
You can't play it both ways.
You can't.
And interestingly enough, last week I had to step in as a guest host for Brother Bannon on his show,
and when that story broke that day, I interviewed Miranda Devine.
Why is that important?
She wrote the book, Laptop from Hell.
The New York Post was the was over broke the story and
twitter took him off and facebook and what she said was zuckerberg flat out lied because um
he and facebook were much more aggressive than twitter but here's the point we had actually
someone message us in the super chats last night yeah saying zuckerberg lied they had they had been
permanently banned from facebook over sharing the hundred-billion laptop story during the election
yeah he he he made twitter sound like they were the like the tough guys and they saw no bs calling
bs on mark but but the main thread here is the fbi i i i see them as as an insurrectionist.
Think about this.
If you look at Webster's Dictionary, an insurrectionist is armed people who are trying to overthrow the, quote, constituted authority.
Trump was president.
For four years, armed FBI agents in the executive suites and down tried to overthrow Trump and they succeeded.
Well, now they succeeded. The polls here, Tim, you know what the polls say about Hunter Biden
laptop, right? I think it found what 7% of people would have voted for Trump had they known about
this. So Trump should be in the White House. But what do you think about the FBI going after
Hillary Clinton's emails? Because the argument that the left makes is that, well, if Comey hadn't done the investigation over her emails, she would have gotten the same bump and she would have won.
Well, in the dual system of justice, I'm the guy in leg irons.
Trump's the guy who has a raid on Mar-a-Lago despite cooperating with the National Archives, of all things.
And Eric Holder, who was the attorney general under Obama,
who killed people with his misoperation down in Mexico with gun running,
he was charged, they recommended the same charge for him as me.
He went free. Hillary's free.
Peter Strzok's on CNN making six or seven figures.
And that was the SOB at the FBI in the top executive suites who was directly responsible for manipulating information to perpetuate the Russia hoax.
And so to finish the thought, it's like now we have another preemptive
coup. We had one in 2016 that failed. We had an actual coup by the FBI that succeeded because
they suppressed the Hunter Biden information, which would have swung the election to Trump.
And now we have another attempted preemptive coup at Mar-a-Lago trying to stick him with a criminal charge that would
prevent him from running. So the question here is, to this news point, is this one guy,
how many bad apples are in that bunch? And I go back...
13.
A thousand, two, I mean, how many? I go back to why I'm here in a little way. Taking back
Trump's America Book mission is to get control of the House of Representatives in November so that we can start issuing the subpoenas to the FBI, the Department of Justice, the National Archives and find out just what exactly is going on.
Who's calling these shots? Who decided to go down to Mar-a-Lago when the guy's cooperating with him
and go down there with armed agents and steal boxes?
What did Kash Patel say?
What did Kash Patel say?
He thinks that the boxes they took are related to some of the cover-ups
inside the FBI related to the rush home.
That's plausible. The affidavit said that they were covered 15 boxes. to some of the cover-ups inside the FBI related to the Russia. So this is my understanding.
The affidavit said that they recovered 15 boxes.
I think they seized 11 packets of documents or something like that.
Correct me if I'm wrong, Hannah Clare.
It said that Donald Trump was instructed that he had boxes
that may contain classified information by the National Archives.
So he then sent those boxes. Oh, yeah, here you go. Take them. The National Archives took them, went through them
and found newspaper clippings, personal memos from the president and some classified information
spattered among these boxes, then sent a message to the FBI saying, hey, look what Trump had.
The FBI said, sounds like he's got more probably. OK. Got a warrant on those grounds. And the warrant said from the first day
to the last day of his presidency.
And then they went in,
searched the house,
took more documents.
So Cash thinks the documents they took
were related to Russiagate.
Yeah.
And that, I mean,
this is a crazy,
this is a crazy movie-esque story
if this is really how it played out.
That Donald Trump leaves the White House,
declassifying as he goes the crossfire hurricane documents showing the FBI was engaged in malfeasance
to try and subvert this country or something like that.
And then while, for whatever reason, Trump's holding onto these documents, not publishing
them, they realize he's got them and they need an excuse to go in and take them, which
is why they needed a broad search warrant that said from day one to the last day, which is insane. The fourth amendment, my understanding prescribes,
you need a narrow set for your search warrant. You need to be looking for something specifically
that is approved of not to simply go to a judge and be like, we think he's got classified documents.
Good enough for me. You can take anything he has from any point in his presidency, that's insane. That theory may well be true.
But what I did was I went and looked at the statutes authorizing the search.
And interestingly enough, there's a little clause right there in the statute says
that if you were found to contain confidential documents, you can't run for office.
Think about that.
It's right there in the statute.
So it's like this could be Russiagate, and I believe that.
But it also could be as simple as they picked those statutes as a way of stopping Trump.
Yeah, maybe.
But I don't think these people are as powerful as a lot of people think they are.
I think obviously we have this unit of FBI agents and probably many, many more that are
really bad.
But this won't stop Trump.
That's that's that's it's just it doesn't make sense.
Trump is the president.
He has broad declassification powers, if not unilateral declassification powers.
They try and compare him to Hillary Clinton.
But Hillary Clinton was not the president. She doesn't determine what is classified.
Trump does as the president. So Kash Patel said this, I think back in January,
anything Trump has is declassified because he was the president.
Look, it's two things can be true here. One is that they can have the powers that they think they have. These are very powerful people.
Okay.
They put people in prison.
I mean, look, think about my situation here, Tim.
Take a guess.
Okay.
How much on lawyers have I already shelled out for what is a misdemeanor?
Okay.
Think about that.
Well, let's start from the beginning.
600,000.
Let's start from the beginning.
It's close.
It's over 400.
And that's just the beginning.
Let's start from the beginning. It's close. It's over 400, and that's just the beginning. Let's start from the beginning.
Yeah.
You got arrested.
What happened?
So the overlay here is the January 6th so-called select committee, which is selected basically of a bunch of Democrats and two rhino Republicans. It's a committee which Nancy call Pelosi yourself
called unprecedented because it's a totally partisan committee, which I repeatedly called
long before I ever got a subpoena, a witch hunt and a kangaroo court designed to build a criminal
case against Trump, which you can't do. You know, they put me in that stuff, right? Yeah. They
showed a clip of me reading a news article. Oh, interesting. And then claimed that I was a Trump supporter
calling for people to go to DC.
Never did.
They lied.
Jamie Raskin is a liar and an awful person.
Yes.
Anyway, so they subpoena me and command me,
that's the term they use,
to come and testify before Congress
and provide them with some documents.
Now, here's the constitutional problem and the rock and hard place I'm in.
As soon as they did that, we have the fact that Trump invokes what's called executive privilege.
Executive privilege goes back to George Washington.
It's a doctrine.
The word privilege has kind of got a bad rap these days. But the whole idea is for a president to make
effective decisions, he has to be able to have confidential discussions with his closest advisors
that can't be revealed in the ordinary course of business. So as soon as he evoked him privilege, number one, it was not my privilege to waive.
Number two,
so I told the committee repeatedly,
time and time again,
go negotiate a waiver of the privilege
with the president and his attorneys.
They never did that.
This is the same argument
that Steve Bannon's legal team used, right?
That Trump had invoked executive privilege
and he was not at liberty.
It's the same argument that Mark Meadows, the former chief of staff and there is Covino they're arguing you lose the president
loses executive privilege the moment he walks out of office which is a fanciful and absurd notion
which has no basis in the law the point here is that you have no privilege during the presidency
either it's it's ridiculous privilege belongs to the privilege belongs to the office, not to the individual. It's crazy. Well, be careful with that
because that's kind of their argument in some sense.
Just go back to the logic of this.
It's like if President Trump has executive privilege
and his predecessor comes in
and immediately strips him of it
and then he never had it.
Yeah, but I don't think you should be able to strip the presidency of its privilege it's just that's
okay well so so it's not the office it's the individual who held who held the office
like any president who goes in and says i this privilege is required for the the reason of
having independent branches if you left and then that could be taken away from you you'd have civil war every every
four years literal less less tangent can a can a new president uh get the information from the old
president's privilege or are they privileged from each other like they're not allowed to know what
each other has done when a when a president's past or present invokes executive privilege
then that privilege applies to what whatever it is he's invoked
it on. And it's not the authority of his advisors who are considered, the top advisors, we're
considered alter egos of the president. In other words, when they subpoena me, it's like subpoenaing
the president. So my point here, in terms of my my situation is Trump invokes privilege, not my privilege to waive.
The committee does nothing to resolve that issue.
And the next thing we know, they pass a resolution to hold both Dan Scavino and myself in contempt for for failing to comply with the subpoena.
And hijinks ensue.
Now, the funny part of the story, and it's darkly comic in a brutal authoritarian way,
is I live literally a field goal kick away from the FBI.
I mean, I was a field goal kicker in high school.
I could hit the FBI from my balcony in the building i'm in
with a field goal that's how close they are yet what's what's what's a good field goal though
how many yards are we talking like 40 40 yards yeah yeah i mean it's just it's just right there
right and so um rather than it what they should have done with me is call my attorney and arrange what they call a voluntary arrest.
This is a misdemeanor, right?
Just say, hey, we've got an arrest warrant.
Come on down.
We'll do the paperwork, and you'll be out with no bail, and we'll deal with this in the courts.
That's how it should have went. And two days before they took me, I actually talked to the FBI agent and said, hey, whatever you need, I'm happy to cooperate with you guys.
And that same day, I'd sent a letter to the attorney at the Justice Department saying, hey, I'm looking for a modus vivendi here.
Call this attorney here.
I'm stuck between this rock and hard place.
So it was like, peace, right?
Peace, brother, right?
Peace.
You know why.
And so on that Friday,
they let me leave my home across the street from them,
go to Reagan Airport,
sit for an hour in the boarding area,
getting ready to go board a plane to Nashville to do Mike Huckabee's show. And I go through, I do my gate ticket thing
and walk into the jetway. And the next thing I know, there's three armed agents behind me
and two armed agents coming at me, right? And it's like, they take my phone,
can't call an attorney, put me in handcuffs, take me down the jetway. And meanwhile, as soon as
that's happening, it was like all the newspapers had been leaked. All the media had this leak,
but they kept me in solitary, right?
And I go, I get fingerprinted. I go and get leg irons, strip searched. And, you know,
one of the common things, it's like they're walking me down. And this guy, young guy,
I got no problem with the people who work at the place. They're just doing their job,
unlike the FBI, which seems to enjoy doing that job too much.
You know, this guy's walking.
I'm supposed to be following him.
I'm in leg irons.
You ever try to walk in leg irons?
It's not easy, right?
And then they walk me down to the cell.
They take away my tie because they think I'm going to hang myself and my belt because they think I'm going to hang myself.
And it's just like why'd they
put you in leg irons so we can't escape you know i think they wanted the well it's bullying
coercion look tim look well i mean you're a master sprinter i mean you rival usain bolt
kicker in high school i don't know if you guys understand but this guy made his pure athleticism
but they wanted the optics is really what it is. They wanted to show you.
They want to bully, coerce me, and try to break me.
And look, it's like.
These people are crooked as they come.
It's like there's a thing, a concept called lawfare that we've been having to deal with in the Trump administration really big time.
It's like even if I'm never convicted and put in prison for two years, which is what they want to do. It's going to cost me well over a million dollars just to defend myself. And I'm over a misdemeanor. And
I'm not, you know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not one of the Wall Street guys who was in the Trump
administration. He's just, you know, he's a college professor before I got here. It's like,
what the hell? It's like, what's going on here, guys? So you get the bigger issue though.
And I get back,
look,
the taking back Trump's America book.
It's a mission for me.
It's also my legal defense one,
but we got to get the house back.
We got to get the house back in November.
I don't think it's bullying.
I don't,
I don't think it's bullying.
I think they want,
they want to send a message to anybody who would work with Trump.
If Trump wins,
we will put you in. No, I, I, I, that's, I agree with that. It's Trump, if Trump wins, we will put you in.
Yeah, no, I, I, that's, I agree with that. It's like,
who, look, who wants to go into government service? I mean, all I ever did, all I ever
did was save lives and create jobs there. Nobody ever accused me of doing anything but that.
The response from anyone who would want to work with Trump after seeing what they did to you
should be to proudly assert they want to work with Trump and try 10 times harder to work
with Trump in the next administration.
Make them realize when they do things like this, people will only become more resolved
and stand up for what they believe in.
This is why the United States doesn't negotiate with terrorists.
This is what I learned doing all the hostile environment stuff, training with the overseas,
like when you're dealing with terrorists.
Terrorists don't like, in many circumstances, to kidnap Americans because the United States
government will not negotiate at all.
They'll just send special forces or whatever to go and wipe them out and rescue the Americans
or the Americans die.
And so what ends up happening is typically, at least this is what, you know, how it was a while
ago, things change with ISIS. You can have an American gets kidnapped in the Middle East. They
go, he's an American, leave. I don't want to deal with it. But a German guy or a Spanish guy,
those countries, they pay up instantly. So what happens? They're more likely to be kidnapped.
So what you need, the message you need to send when they do things like this,
they want to scare you,
make yourself stand up,
be 10 times more resolved and say,
okay, if you want to play these games,
we're going to try twice as hard,
10 times as hard to stand up for what we believe in,
work with Trump and take back America.
Couldn't agree with you more.
There's also just a very practical matter of
taking back the House of Representatives and getting the investigatory powers in the hands
of Republicans who will then send out the subpoenas to the FBI, to the Justice Department,
to the National Archives, to the Democrats on Capitol Hill to the White House.
I just, Tim, this all stinks to high heaven.
I mean, this is like Banana Republic stuff
where whoever's in power tries to punish and imprison
whoever was in power before so that they can't come back. I mean, it's a story that's
been going on for hundreds of years in countries around the world. We just never thought it could
happen here. Why do you think it's happening here? I mean, at one point you were a Democrat,
right? Do you think that the party has fundamentally become flawed or what evolution has taken place? Well, if you look at the Democrat
Party itself, the Democrat Party that I associated with was blue collar America. It was it was the
MAGA folks who want real wages and decent jobs rising. And it's and we just the democrat party lost their way
long long long ago i mean well i just want to pause real quick and be like you know they were
the party of slavery and jim crow and the clan and all that well there is that too yeah they've
had a lot of problems for a long time look i think probably all of us sitting around this table are
more more pragmatic pragmatists um rather than partisans. You know, I wanted,
when I registered as a Republican, I wanted to register as a Trump Republican because I know
what that means. Yeah, one of the cool things in the Trump, Taking Back Trump's America book is to
walk through what I call the iron triangle of MAGA, right? It's like the rhinos love tax cuts. They love deregulation. Hey,
Trump Republicans are on board with that. Fine, fine. Strategic energy dominance, that too. Okay,
what differentiates the Trump Republicans? It's an end to endless wars, it's secure borders, and at the top of that triangle or pyramid,
it's fair trade and a level playing field so blue-collar manufacturing workers can compete
against the sweatshops of Asia and the subsidies of Europe. And that's what really Trump republicanism means to me. And we, you know,
we had, look, it's, what is it? Bill Parcells, NFL, you are what your record says you are. Our
record in the Trump administration, strip all the rhetoric away, says that we built the strongest
economy in modern history. Okay. We have turned the strongest economy in modern history
over to a regime which,
and you folks are way too young to understand this,
is a replay of the worst decade of the 20th century,
which is the 1970s.
In many ways, the 70s were,
they certainly rivaled the Great Depression years, because just for the sheer
length of time they went on. I mean, you can't imagine what it's like to have mortgage rates at
15%. I mean, that's like, you'd say you're out of your mind, Navarro. No, you go back in the 70s.
And the misery index of Reagan was was you know double you know 10 percent
in unemployment rate 10 percent interest rates and you were in the reagan white house right
no no it never was in i you know i interestingly enough um and forgive me if i mention this but i
i explain that back uh back in the 80s when i was getting my phd at harvard i did have a chance to do that
um there was a guy murray wingbaum who uh was the chairman of economic advisors and he invited me
to be his uh his speech writer essentially because i i did like op-eds back then like in the wall street journal and it caught his
eye but i decided that um if i ever left harvard i'd never get come back and finish so i i think
i probably made the right choice though but i want to jump to this story from the post-millennial
i want to talk to you guys about what uh what portland is becoming what it is, and I guess why it's important that people get out and vote,
not just in the congressional elections, but in your local elections as well.
The Post Millennial reports, Portland street mob shoots at elderly driver accidentally kills one
of their own. Shocking videos emerge on social media showing scenes of a deadly and fiery chaos
at lawless street occupations in Portland.
At one of the street racing takeovers on Sunday night near the Expo Center,
attended by hundreds, an elderly man in a van appeared to be caught in the road before being
violently attacked by an armed mob. Video posted on social media shows that as he desperately
intended to reverse and drive away while being attacked, he backed into a car.
This is where things are getting crazy. A man in the crowd then fires at least 18 rounds at the fleeing van. A follow-up video shows the crowd catching up with
the elderly man who had stopped on a patch of grass. He appeared to be in shock and was bleeding
heavily. There were hundreds of people and cars in the area participating in an apparent illegal
street takeover. I want to show you this account. It says my boy's lifelong friend was killed last
night at the street takeover. There's a candlelight vigil tonight at 8 p.m. at the Expo Center by
please, please, by please help get the word out and please help get candles donated to the location
at eight. If you're able to no BS, please respect the family. This individual is abolish ice,
abolish pigs burned on the system. They say, love your friends, be anti-racist, don't F Nazis,
black flags, clearly an Antifa individual in Portland. And what Andy was saying is a lot of
these people supporting these takeovers are Antifa. They're leftists. They want the lawlessness.
This is what you get. But you know what? For whatever reason, the people of Portland keep
voting for it. So I don't I don't know if there is a way to change the minds of individuals who
like that kind of scenario because that I wouldn't want to live anywhere near it.
But if that's the case, I don't see amending of this country in terms of the political divide, especially with how the FBI has been treating people.
It seems like an inevitability that there is what a national divorce, a civil war or something like that, or maybe a revolution if one side doesn't actually stand up and vote?
Close to home here, just last week, I was on a jog, as it were, on the mall
and went up kind of the left side of the Capitol Hill walkway, right?
And it's a beautiful just scene.
There's mothers there with kids in the carriages
and just people having a good time.
The next thing I know,
a hundred or more
guys come down
on these motorized skateboards going 30, 40 miles an hour with their helmets and
Antifa-like gear.
I don't know if they were.
And it's a wonder somebody didn't get killed.
And so I got up to the top of the hill.
And the reason why I'm telling you this story is uh there's a motorcycle
cop up there from the capitol hill police and i go dude what the what what's going on here it's like
how do you not do anything about that isn't that your job and he tells me that they have orders directly from Pelosi and Bowser not to do anything.
Okay?
Wow.
That's what's going on here, Tim.
And the other story—
They like it.
The other story that caught my eye was just this week in D.C., 16th Street, I think, somewhere in northwest um an nfl player okay who has to look formidable okay
nfl player got shot by two kids with guns 15 years old they were trying to
car i mean it's like why how does that happen if it's not because there's no law here in in the
District of Columbia or Portland or everywhere in between it's I mean it happens to be these
Democrat cities have the skyrocketing crime rates because that's how they roll. And, and I,
it's,
uh,
I got no answers for that.
Do you think it's a cycle?
They,
no,
it's not a cycle.
This is like,
I think it's,
it's,
I think it's cascading out of control.
I mean,
this is the whole Rudy Giuliani thing.
When,
when he was,
uh,
first,
uh,
coming onto the scene and came with a James Q. Wilson broken window theory, the idea that if you let one broken window go without repair, then you'll get a lot of broken windows.
No, my thought is that in Democratic cities, being soft on crime gets you elected, but then you have a crime problem, but you can't suddenly be tough on crime because then you'll lose your seat, right?
I'm trying to find out who the heck these people are who are voting for these people.
I mean, it's just, what?
Portland is a great city.
It used to be a great city.
It used to be a great city.
It used to be.
I'll tell you how it works.
What is going on there, Tim?
You've got a better handle on this than I do.
Well, I mean, people care more about social conformity than they do about the future of this country.
I think that's fairly obvious.
I think one of the problems with cities, and this is, I believe, an inevitability.
I remember when I got wrongly pulled over in Chicago.
I couldn't do anything about it.
What am I supposed to do?
A cop gave me a ticket and said, ha ha, I wasn't speeding.
Didn't matter.
He said, tell it to a judge.
A judge said, go screw myself.
Under 21, my license got suspended.
So what happens then is when you get cops that are using quota systems or in Chicago,
it's real dark where they have black sites where they will arrest people and bring them
without anyone knowing and beat them and things like that.
No joke.
This stuff happens.
There was one guy who was electrocuting people to force confessions.
When you arrest people or give them tickets because you need to make money off them, you're criminalizing regular people who then demand that this stop.
And they say, we don't want this anymore.
We want the police to back off.
Then you get mayors who had elected and say, OK, police back off.
Then crime
runs rampant. It's a cycle. It's a whirlpool of destruction. This is the crazy thing about
these ghost quota systems they claim they don't have. We know they do it. We know that in many
jurisdictions, there are regular people who are like, hey, it's the end of the month. Better slow
down. That's a ridiculous notion. But they want to make money. They want to get money from the citations. And then people say, I don't want to have cops
around anymore. When we talk about how the left wants to abolish police, and they have these
principal narratives, a lot of their narratives, I think, are insane, right? We learned from,
say, like, I think it was the Washington Post, something like between nine and 19 unarmed black
men were shot in like 2019. Not thousands like Black Lives Matter was trying to claim.
But I'm talking to my friend who lives in a, you know, in the Baltimore area.
And they were like, I don't care about any of that.
I want to get rid of the cops because they keep pulling us over on BS charges
or BS claims and giving us tickets.
And I'm like, okay, I have no argument for that.
Like, what am I supposed to say?
Philadelphia did that and they are having continued problems.
I mean, Philadelphia.
Oh, then it just falls apart.
So look, when people, what I hear from like my suburbanite friends and the police is,
I got pulled over for BS reasons and they gave me a ticket.
I'm sick of the cops.
And maybe that's fine if you're in like a low crime, well off suburb.
But then when you start electing people who are like, yeah, we hate cops, too, and start gutting them, you get what's going on in Portland.
You get what's going on in New York.
You get rampant violent crime.
You get what's going on in D.C. and Baltimore.
It's all getting worse.
And then, you know, these people who voted for it do.
They leave.
They leave and they come to your area and then say, OK, it's kind of nice here.
Then they get mad at the way things are being run.
And then they vote and gut it again.
Well, Portland,land breaks my heart and the idea this dual system of justice
where you observe for over a hundred days i was in the administration during this they were just
burning stuff down just breaking stuff down and then back to our fbi story i think there's a thread
here it's like the two things i didn't mention which are on the fbi as well it's like
the the whole gretchen whitmer thing where um f10 they had more fbi informants trying to kidnap
gretchen whitner than they had a non-fbi informants and and what was the motivation behind that
they you know when they broke that story, Tim?
I don't know if you remember, but it was in October, early October, right before the election.
Yeah.
And it was designed basically to tar Trump with the right wing brush.
It was an October surprise.
And on the January 6th day, we still don't know just why we had FBI informants roaming near the Capitol,
some of them on the grounds, that still goes unexplained. But what I do know is that that violence that happened was led to Trump's impeachment.
So, I mean, something going on here.
Trump should have sent in the military during the 2020 riots.
I thought day two.
That's something I told Tim, actually.
Day two of the riots.
I was like, he's got to send in the National Guard.
What's happening?
Why is he not stopping this?
I think it's the insurrection.
He was afraid he'd be looked at as a fascist if he sent that in.
Don't forget who was the Secretary of Defense at the time.
It was the Mark Esper,
Mark Milley show.
And those guys turned out to be clowns.
Just there,
you know,
one of the,
one of the tragedies of the first Trump term was all of the people who didn't
belong there in powerful positions.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It,
it,
I was,
I, I, there is a part of me that's worried
about people like Millie, you know,
because I view them as deeply corrupt
and insane individuals.
But I also thought about it.
I'm like, well, they're cowards too.
So I really have nothing to worry about.
They can't do anything.
Here's why you should worry.
They're killing their combat readiness.
Well, that's true though.
To the extent that you divert your attention and resources and organizational culture away from combat readiness and the development of the next generation of defensive weapons to protect us against Russia and China and instead go down all the roads they've gone down, it's a very, very damaging thing.
I mean, the military is in deep, deep trouble right now, morale-wise, combat readiness-wise, and everything in between.
And it's because of people like Milley and feckless defense secretaries like Esper. I mean, to me, it's like, Esper, what the hell?
Why did you keep the National Guard far enough away that they couldn't be quickly deployed
when you damn well knew that there could be violence that day?
Is it on purpose?
Well, that's the working theory.
Trying to gut the United States to help China?
No, Mike, the one working theory is that Pelosi told the Capitol Hill
police to go lightly, open the barricades under duress if you needed to. The FBI put agitators
in there, and Milley and Esper kept the National Guard far enough away that they couldn't come to
the rescue in time so that they could blame Trump for whatever happened. And, you know, they didn't
blame Trump for whatever happened, and those you know, they didn't blame Trump for whatever happened,
and those things happened.
So put it all together.
Yep.
Yeah, you know, like Occam's razor,
the simplest explanation is usually the right one.
Do you think Trump should have gotten rid of them earlier?
Do you think he should have removed them?
There's an old saying in the Reagan
administration that personnel is policy, right? Meaning that if you put the wrong people in,
you're going to get the wrong policies reflective of your administration. The Taking Back Trump's
America book takes that a step further. It's that bad personnel not only create bad policy but bad politics and i go in the
taking back trump's american book i go chapter and verse from the beginning where we the original
senate administration was to get in bed with the rhinos and then we got like people like tillerson
at state we got mattis at defense we had g Cohn, Goldman Sachs guy of all people,
leading the economic policy inside the White House. We lose Mike Flynn to the Russia hoax,
Russiagate thing, and we wind up with the globalist H.R. McMaster. And it was just,
I mean, a cabinet of clowns, and it just really took its toll.
And at the back end, yeah, go ahead.
529.
Do you remember that?
529?
Yeah, the insurrection, 529.
No, what's that?
The insurrection on 529,
when the far left tried storming the White House
and set fire to St. John's Church.
Ah, yes.
Yeah, the 529 insurrection.
Yes, yes.
Yeah, see, the issue is...
There's a subcommittee for issue is there's a subcommittee
for that yeah maybe maybe there should be there should be so donald trump and law enforcement
stopped that insurrection when they set fire to a guard post yeah when i think it was what like 70
was it 70 uh federal agents were injured in the rioting yeah And more, it was like hundreds total throughout several days.
The smoke, all... Well, no, the issue is that
this is the way things work
in the victim,
in victim,
in fifth generational warfare.
I'll put it that way.
On 5-29,
Trump stopped an insurrection.
So who cares?
On 1-6,
no one stopped a quote unquote insurrection.
So it's endless news.
And instead of blaming law
enforcement for their failure, they blame the individuals who went there. And I'm not talking
about the people who are actually violent and rioting by all means, you know, charge and arrest
those people. I'm talking about the people who walked in confused and the barricades were open,
the doors were open and didn't see violence and just were led in by cops taking selfies with
people. They get blamed. If Donald Trump on 529 said to the police
and law enforcement, stand down and back off. We don't want anyone getting hurt because we'll get
blamed for it. Let those people tear the fences down at the White House. Trump would be president
right now. The narrative would be that the far left has gone insane. They've crossed the line.
They burned down buildings, but Trump stopped them. So there is no narrative about far left
violence. Whenever the far left goes out of control, they punch down buildings, but Trump stopped them. So there is no narrative about far left violence.
Whenever the far left goes out of control, they punch people, they beat people.
The media doesn't cover it.
The only time there was ever a really big national story was when Andy Ngo was brutally
beaten in the street and they had no choice because the photos were horrific.
But you see, the right always tries to stop the left from going out of control.
And then if the right ever, ever puts one toe over the line, the media screams, screams on top of their lungs. So that's, that's, that's, that's,
that's, that's, that's simple. And I can only assume that Pelosi and the Democrats understand
that, that when there's a video of a guy, he's watching January 6th happen. People are going
in the building and he looks at the cops and goes, stop them. Why aren't you doing anything? And the cops don't care.
They just stand there. It makes you wonder. Not that I know for sure, but I tell you this,
there were barely any cops there when there were hundreds of thousands of people that were down
there in DC. Why did they let these people do this? There were some cops there trying to stop
them that I get, But seriously, the seat
of the federal government could not stop 800 people from walking through a building.
Is America that pathetic that the federal government had no ability? Okay, if the federal
government is that weak, that pathetic, and that ineffective, this country is already doomed. 800 people showed up
and we were helpless to stop them. That's the narrative of the January 6th committee,
that the federal government has become feckless, weak, pathetic, and ineffective. So my response
is, okay, if they can't stop 800 people from walking through a building and they're carrying
sticks, maybe we should strip them all of their funding because it's a big, fat waste of money.
And then I don't know what we do.
Hire private companies to handle security in and around the district, I guess, because
they certainly couldn't stop it.
Amazing, huh?
Yeah.
Well, I remember after 529, too, everyone was like, Trump got shuttled to a bunker.
He's such a coward.
Like all the media was against us.
And it's like, what are you talking about?
We said all of Congress later, like a couple months later, and it made sense right they laughed when trump was the narrative was that trump was
weak for going to the bunker which is just security protocol but then we got all those
soundbites from aoc telling us how terrified she was and someone banged on her door which she made
that up yeah well i mean someone probably banged on her door but the whole story not like in the
context that she thinks it was so yeah she lied you know aoc You know, AOC lied about what happened on January 6th.
She fabricated a story claiming that I thought I was going to die because they made it to
my office, even though her story happened an hour before the Capitol was breached.
These people are sick, duplicitous.
I would argue it is the simpler solution that elements of the federal government told law
enforcement to back off as opposed to assuming
the federal government is unable to stop 800 people that's an insane notion two wins and a
loss for whoever told the military to stand down on january i mean i saw they were stood down
whether they were ordered to or not i don't know but they weren't there they weren't stopping us
because they didn't want the optics of a bunch of military breaking people's faces getting into fights opening fire maybe on the crowd although ashley
babbitt was open fire upon um they they also would have an opportunity then to claim like we were
being attacked we need more funding for defense which is a big win but the downside is if they
actually betrayed us and didn't defend our capital that's a big down so that's a big problem and the
idea is i always this is
what I always see in the memes. This is what they have to do. They have to conflate anyone who
opposes the Democratic establishment and the Uniparty with Trump. Michael Malice and he's a
and Dave Smith are great examples of this. And it's a meme now that if you come out and say
something about Biden, they respond by saying,
oh, yeah, but Trump. And so you can literally be like, you know, Biden did a bad job here.
And like, yeah, well, Trump did a bad job here. And you can go, yeah, OK, I don't care. I don't
like Trump. And they still will treat you like you're a Trump supporter. Hunter Biden could
have the bodies of children in his basement. But Trump economy. Did you see this Sam Harris thing?
You know, Sam Harris, podcaster. Yeah. He said Hunter Biden could have the corpses of children in his basement and I would not care.
Nothing on that laptop would have changed my mind.
And then he says nothing there would be worse than Trump University.
And that's how deranged, deranged these people are.
That let's say the worst case scenario that Trump University, all that stuff is all true.
That Trump had a fake university and defrauded people. Oh, heavens. Sure. Would be bad. But then
to ignore the fact that Hunter Biden is shown colluding with foreign interests, potentially
involving his father, who's the president, assuming Sam Harris saying that's not worse.
These people are deranged. Literally, they are afflicted with something. They're out
of their minds. I think it would be, would have been better if there was nothing about crack,
nothing about sex whatsoever at all on the Hunter Biden laptop and allowed us just to focus on the
real pornography, which was the treason to this country. I mean, if you, I mean, I, this, that thing hit me so close to home because I spent four years in the white house trying to get
manufacturing jobs back from China, factories back from China and hunters going over there,
leveraging the power of daddy to get a billion dollars from the Chinese to buy factories in
Michigan and ship them back over there. That was the, that's the true obscenity.
And to your point, Tim, I just, Sam, I don't know who these people are, but I don't, the
mindset, the mindset is that's the way they think.
So that's the way they want everybody else to think.
And that's, that's how they use the media.
They shape, they try to shape the narrative in a way which conforms with what they want.
I think it's the other way around. I think they assume that's what other people think.
Therefore, they're saying what they think they have to say.
I think it's an ends justify the means. In the Taking Back Trump's America book,
there's a whole section on the media. And the theme about it is daily control to dominate the news cycle.
If you're in the White House, you understand that that's your mission every day in the White House
if you're in the press corps, right? You want to dominate the news cycle in a way which makes your
guy look favorable, right? And what we fought every day was a media willing to take whatever news there was and misinformation arise it.
You know, they put it in their blender. Right. And there might be like a story in in neutral times, which would be the number one story.
There might be the top three stories. And those wouldn't be the ones that we'd see every day.
We'd see only the ones that would be able to either put Biden in a good light
or Trump in a bad light or both.
And to me, it's just an ends justify the means departure
from any kind of morality or ethics simply to get in the
funny part is and it's it's tragic is they got exactly what they wanted they
got Joe Biden and he is destroying everything they hold dear but they don't
everything we hold dear then I guess they don't care I mean can they not hold
social victory above anything else it's not about a good economy.
It's not about having food.
It's not about health care.
It's about saying I won.
The they you're talking about, though, are the ones that aren't hurt by this.
No, no, no.
I'm talking about the regular voters.
You think?
Look, not every single person, obviously.
But when I look to the people I know in my life who voted for Joe Biden, they're staring at record gas prices.
No remorse.
No remorse.
Remember what Bill Maher said?
Who are these people?
That's what I keep asking.
Remember what Bill Maher said?
Yeah.
If a recession stops Trump, bring on a recession.
Yeah.
Actually calling for pain and suffering of working class people. And the best
part is right now at the student debt forgiveness thing, seeing these people on the left be like,
we need to get student debt forgiveness. It's about the working class. And I'm like, bro,
college degree holders are not the working class. They're the bourgeoisie. That's what Mark's
talked about. They're the laptop class. These people are the highest income earners in this
country thinking they're the oppressed minorities.
It's true though. Yeah, I'll use
that, the laptop class.
That's what it is. That's what it is. That's exactly right.
They think they're
deserving of all of this.
Meanwhile, there's a guy who's making
half the salary they get writing
articles about Brad Pitt's junk and he's
actually doing something for society.
You got working class people who build things,
who clean things, who fix things.
And then you got people who are like arts degree holders
who are like, the government should pay off my debts.
Yeah, okay, dude.
It's not the government, though.
It's me.
They're asking the taxpayers to do it.
When they conflate the government is paying for it
with the taxpayers are paying for it,
I get really annoyed with it.
But I had an idea.
I had an idea. I don't think we can continue to function with people who,
look, I don't like the idea of people taking out loans and then being like, I'm not going to pay them back. But I also don't like the idea of how the interest rates have made it so that somebody
takes out a $30,000 loan, ends up paying back a hundred grand. That's insane. So here's my idea.
How about we do this? We'll forgive your loans, but you got to do four hours per week of community service at your own discretion, signed off on by a nonprofit or a church. We credit you
50 bucks an hour for that community service. And so long as you're engaged in that once per week,
your loans are frozen and can only go down. How does that sound?
It sounds good. I still want them to be able to, I think they want to, I want them to be able to
make it easier to declare bankruptcy on student loans.
That's a good point too.
I think the fact that we tell 18 year olds, the only way to succeed in this country is
to get a degree that's worth an insane amount of money because we made it so you have to,
that will cost you an incentive.
Right, right.
Thank you.
It's not worth much.
Chris Carr, please edit me live.
Return on investment tends to be negative.
Yeah.
Exactly.
You're going to have to pay an insane amount
of money the only way to do that is to go into debt the second you're an adult and then we're
going to continue to charge that forever and by the way there's no way to get out of this unlike
any other loan like it's just an insane system why would you ever think this is a good idea except
for the fact that you can trap people who are desperate to try and pursue this idea that college
gives you an opportunity which in this country at this point, it really does not.
It did until about 2006 when you could study online, maybe before that.
I just think that the bachelor's degree is an oversaturated market.
And so now we have to drive everyone to get their master's,
which is farther in student debt,
which you can't declare bankruptcy on and just goes on and on.
It's the opposite.
It's the opposite, actually.
What happened is people who have degrees are too expensive
and don't have real world experience.
Man, I saw this when I was 18 and I kept telling my friends it's a trap, but they didn't believe
me.
Now they're all really angry that they can't pay off their debt.
But it's this simple.
If Ian comes to me and he's like, I make music.
I say, OK, OK, Ian, prove that you can make music.
And he goes, here's a piece of paper signed off on by an expensive institution
that says I learned how to make music.
What am I supposed to do with that?
Some homeless guy could walk up and be like, I make music.
And I'll be like, prove it to me.
And he'll go, oh, McDonald's, they had a farm.
And I'll be like, well, he's singing.
He's a good singer too.
You can do it.
That's more valuable to me than your certified piece of paper.
Yeah.
I mean, the joke is online that you get your bachelor's degree
and then you apply for an entry-level job
and they're like,
do you have five years of professional experience?
Because it doesn't mean anything.
But think about the kind of person
you'd have to be to walk into that trap.
Trusting.
And that's unfortunate
that there's a lot of people who are going,
this is why I'm like,
we need to find a solution to this.
But I certainly do not respect the entitlement
of so many of these people.
I'm not comfortable with charging taxpayers money to pay back Sally Mae for people's loans. I do not
want to do that again. They did it in 2008. Obama paid back and bailed those companies out. I do not
want to bail them out again in the guise of a loan repayment. If they want to negate Sally Mae's
books and say, hey, you're worth $580 billion less now,
and these people are not giving you that $10,000 back each.
That's another story.
Whether or not to bankrupt Sally Mae, I don't know.
Maybe that's not even the worst thing in the world.
I'm sure they would say, oh, that would destroy the entire economy
if you bankrupted Sally Mae.
We can't allow that.
We need to bankrupt you instead.
I don't like it.
What is your thoughts?
I mean, you're an economist.
What are your thoughts? I mean, you're an economist. What are your thoughts on this? If you're going to go
to college these days, you might want to think about STEM, STEM education, science, technology.
It's the key to getting a decent job. The liberal arts, okay, liberal arts are the liberal arts.
I majored in English.
I am okay with saying it's not a key way to explain it.
I think what you want to do right now
to educate yourself is download a survival guide,
learn how to raise livestock,
and some rudimentary, you know, engineering.
Because even Mark Ruffalo,
in an interview about whether or not
he's going to be the Hulk,
he was like, well, the way things are going, hopefully I'm still around
and there's a world that can exist to do this.
So even he's kind of thinking maybe this is all going to implode and the world's going to end.
I mean, the paradigm has shifted with the access to online education.
I remember back when I was at University of California, Irvine, teaching back in the 90s,
I was actually one of the first pioneers of online education back then. And the people inside the university were totally
against it because it basically just gave direct access to students in a cheap way,
and it threatened the whole tenure paradigm and things like that and so I think today
there's a lot less need for the kind of four-year college thing that people do I mean just go
because there's so much you can learn online uh and be done with that but and I always felt bad
that these people would take on these huge loans I mean mean, in a lot of ways, it's a scam.
And, you know, my professor elites, I mean, we had it pretty good, right?
You know, you get kicked back and you don't pay as much attention to teaching as you should and things like that.
I'd see this among my colleagues.
I mean, we didn't do, the academy has not done its duty to our young people,
and we get what we get.
You folks, I'm an old guy.
I'm talking to a very young demographic here.
It's a very different world you're growing up in.
Back when I was your age, we had the dream.
We could get the good job, the picket fence, the house, the car,
and this, that, and the other thing.
And that's both not within reach for a lot of people
and really not their dream anymore, which is interesting in and of itself.
I went to an antique store.
They had an old radio.
It was very, very big.
It was like three and a half feet tall
yeah two feet wide and the knobs on it were like tiny and there was a wheel that would click you
know to like you're spinning through the frequencies or whatever and the funny thing is i thought about
i'm like when this thing was sold the guy who sold it that was all he did he worked quite literally
at a radio store and he fed a family of four. He had two cars
and he went on vacations and all he did was sell radios to people. Now that's crazy, huh?
Today, both parents are working full time and neither can afford anything.
Yeah. Yeah. No, it's, um, and look, uh, the, the concern I have as an economist and as somebody who is concerned about the prosperity of this country is whatever our educational system is today, it's simply not delivering competitive individuals in a global marketplace.
I mean, it's just not.
No, it's not.
It's just not.
And we spend more on education, I think, than any country in the world and we we get less
but would you say that our education is overpriced i mean i think there are no questions so many
things no question to cut down on it if we really wanted to have everyone graduate from college i
think the only reason why they do the four-year thing is because there's a football season or
something like that i mean yeah because the first two years you spend doing general credits. You don't need to.
There needs to be the total revolution in education and put the hands of learning in the hands of people.
Well, let's talk about that.
So, you know, you're talking about the power of the Internet, people's ability to speak.
But I'm going to jump to the story as kind of a hard segue.
Post Millennial reports, Truth Social banned from google app store over content moderation a google spokesperson told uh said that truth social lacks content moderation needed to
meet google play's terms of service according to the hill the spokesperson said that truth lacks
okay so they wrote that twice this comes after truth social ceo devon is claimed last week
that the android version of the of the platform's app is ready,
waiting only on Google's approval.
On August 19th, we notified Truth Social
of several violations of standard policies in their current app submission
and reiterated that having effective systems for moderating user-generated content
is a condition of our terms for any app to go live on Google Play.
Google is reportedly particularly concerned about violations of its policies,
prohibiting content with physical threats
and incitement to violence.
So this is a really interesting story
because it's just the next link
in the chain of censorship.
And if we're talking about people's ability to learn
because of the internet,
they're clearly trying to stop that.
Well, but the thing I thought you were going towards is um if we're going to
have a curriculum on the internet and they can control what's in that curriculum then that's
just one more step towards that uh globalist woke nirvana they seem to we wanted dragging this
entire country down so so there is that trap. That was a tough one.
Whoever is going to be the next secretary of the Department of Education
needs a vision somewhere along the line.
But this bigger issue of the social media conglomerates,
I get back to the FBI working hand in hand with Twitter, Facebook. And
by the way, there's a fascinating, funny, tragic story in the Taking Back Trump's America book as
to how Twitter and Facebook wound up being so aggressive against Trump in 2020. I don't know if you guys know this, but after Trump won the election in 2016, Brad Parscale,, he reveals that Twitter and Facebook had employees inside the Trump campaign actively trying to help the Trump campaign message. And as soon as that news hit, all hell broke loose across this country and particularly in Silicon Valley.
And it was at that point where the door, Jack Dor skew that election in favor of Biden and against Trump.
And that's a really powerful thing.
And now, I mean, this is just this is this is this is part of why I'll just throw to Andrew Breitbart again.
I think he's the one who said politics is downstream from culture. This is part of why, I'll just throw it to Andrew Breitbart again.
I think he's the one who said politics is downstream from culture.
And then you look at social media censorship.
A large component of that is inhibiting the ability of a culture to form and develop.
Banning Alex Jones, banning Milo Yiannopoulos and people like Laura Loomer because they were influential, because they were having an impact on culture.
So they had to be erased.
Truth Social is a really good example.
I was saying for a long time that Trump should have gotten off of Twitter, launched his own
platform or used Mines or Gab or something like that.
And he didn't do it until recently with the launch of Truth Social.
But this is actually a good example of probably why he didn't.
They just banned the entire app outright.
They didn't just ban one person.
Google said we will ban every single person all at once because they want to control what is allowed to be said.
And they want to limit the appearance of Trump's influence in culture.
They don't want him to be able to influence culture, I would say, especially heading into midterms.
Yep.
I'm a big Getter fan. I call
Getter the Twitter killer. And one of the things that's been really interesting about getting on
Getter, it has all the functionality of Twitter with a lot more elegance and live stream
capabilities. But what I'll do is I'll post identical content on Twitter and on Getter and then watch what happens. And what you see
is the shadow banning that Twitter does. You can have exactly the same amount of followers
on both platforms and you get much more social engagement on getter because of the algorithms that lay deep inside the twitter
autocracy and you would never you would never be able to detect that unless you had getter
doing the same content yeah i mean it's really kind of scary right and it's been interesting a
couple of times i've i've tweeted on Twitter about like, OK, about this.
And you've been I guess the twit sensors are active shadow banning.
And for like a little time after that, things got a little better.
But it's scary that thatberg's talking about how he was able to suppress information about the Hunter Biden laptop.
It was like he was explaining he did it through algorithms which would suppress the information from coming up to the top layers.
So they know how to do this.
And that's like the evil genius of these people.
They really know.
I mean, this is Goebbels in the 21st century here.
They're really good at what they do.
And that's scary.
The way it was explained to me is that they want to make sure people who support Trump are still active.
Because when you censor people, it causes splashes. They
don't want people to go to getter or truth social, whatever. They want them to stay where they are.
And they're worried that if they make too big of moves, it will cause a ruckus.
But they also want to censor just enough to put it at a disadvantage so the left wins.
So it's basically like you got two people
running a race.
One person's pretty fast.
One person's kind of slow.
So what do you do?
You crack one person
in the foot
and then they can't race as well
but they're still there.
They're still running
but they just can't make it.
That's kind of the idea
with how they're handling censorship.
They don't mind
certain channels that exist
so long as the more
influential ones get hobbled.
I think that's right.
I think so too.
I think that's right. I think that's right.
Did you always use Getter as your alternative platform?
Interesting.
Getter, I think it launched in July over a year ago.
And what you saw was the collapse of Twitter stock.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Which is really, if you look at it, I mean, Twitter's in many ways a dying company.
It's like for Elon Musk to go in and buy it, it's like there were people on my side of the fence who thought that was a good idea and, oh, we're going to liberate Twitter.
But in fact, Twitter was dying, okay? It's like, because other platforms were coming
on that really did its job better without the censorship. So, you know, I don't know how that
game will play out, but it's so, the other thing that's so embedded now um if you go to like a newspaper article in the mainstream
media right and you want to do something with it facebook and twitter facebook and twitter
have the monopoly on that so so that builds so i mean i think we need to build an alternative information infrastructure that we can use freely without censorship.
But boy, is that a lot of work.
Yeah, we're building that now, actually.
Well, we're building a lot of stuff.
I think, oh man, it's a depressing monumental task, what it feels like right now, because
it can't break up Facebook.
Break up Facebook, you're going to have Facebook Messenger, Facebook Prime, Instagram. You're going to have
all these separate companies. Zuckerberg's going to still own them all. He's still going to have
all the code, and the monopoly is still going to be there. So I think the only way to do it,
or at least the best way to do it, is to make them free their software code. You force them
to open up their algorithms so that other people can not only watch what they're shadow banning,
if they're shadow banning it, what they're tweaking, if they're tweaking, but that you can actually take it and spin up your
own version of the website that interoperates with their site. So like, if I'm on Facebook,
I can see people that have your version of it. If I'm on your version of it, I can see people
on Facebook, but there's like, now there's competition, but it's becomes less competition
of code, more competition of terms of service. So what system has the best terms of service?
Which one's screwing you over the least?
And people will migrate there.
I mean, one good thing about the Musk thing with this lawsuit is that he may have subpoena power
or deposition power to get to the truth about what they actually do.
And that'll be fascinating.
Whether he buys the platform or not.
Yes.
Now in this suit, discovery is a possibility.
Yes, yes.
Oh, they're not going to like that.
No, they're not going to like that at all.
Because they got stuff to hide.
Yeah, and he subpoenaed Jack Dorsey.
He subpoenaed this whistleblower.
I mean, a whistleblower came out.
So even if he doesn't win, well, actually,
him winning means him not buying Twitter so I would
hope he loses
he has to buy it
yeah absolutely
I just assume
see his road kill on the getter
and true social super high
I think Elon Musk taking over would be
a good thing though
well let me challenge you on that,
because I've had this debate with a couple of pro-Musk folks.
Here's what bothers me about Elon Musk, and it's a death blow.
That SOB took all his money and went over to communist China,
and he's building Teslas.
Yep.
And his entire future
is dependent on one whim of Xi Jinping.
Okay?
So he's got to kiss China's butt
every single day of the week.
And he does.
And he does.
And as long as he's doing that,
that's not good for Americaica and by the way that's why he's not
as warm to trump okay he doesn't love trump because because because trump is the one guy
he wants to find these some republican he can he can embrace that won't shut his tesla companies
down these wellness china the wealthy elites are hedging their bets with China.
That's what they've been doing.
Yeah, they've been buying money, putting property there.
But it's all basically saying swearing fealty to Xi Jinping.
Yes, because at any moment he could take those factories from you.
Snap his fingers.
I got to talk to you about repositioning.
The United States is the top industrial power on Earth.
There's I mentioned at the beginning of the show that we can recapture carbon from the atmosphere.
We're going to start mining the carbon dioxide out of the air and the methane out of the air, turning it into carbon dioxide.
Depositing it onto different metals, palladium, gold, copper, or putting it through other chemicals to turn it into graphene, which is pure carbon, hexagonally latticed, like a honeycomb lattice, single layer of carbon, pure carbon.
And it's conductive, like more conductive than copper.
It's stronger than steel.
You can make touchscreen wallpaper out of it.
You can make clothing out of it.
It's going to be the 21st century building material.
And if we start this mining operation now in the United States,
we'll be able to say, hey, because what's going to happen is
people are going to start mining it,
and they're going to start mining too much if we're not careful.
They'll start competing with the trees,
and they'll start killing off the trees because we've taken all the carbon dioxide too much out.
So we need to work with the globe to figure out how much carbon we're supposed to be putting out and taking back.
But I think it could be a multi-trillion dollar industry at the very least.
I don't even think it has to be about money at this point because it's really about the sustainability and survival of our species.
But I think the United States is the place to build it.
I don't know.
We talked offline before the show about the insanity of trying to solve the carbon issue on the demand side.
Because no matter how much we save here in the U.S., China and India is going to do more.
But it's not just that.
There's a mathematical equation that tracks this.
If you start to,
let's say we replace energy
consumption, we replace our energy sources
with nuclear. We start setting up these nuclear
power plants. Then you will have
people buying
carbon-based fossil fuels
for other purposes. Basically,
with cheap energy availability,
people still want to grow and expand
and use more energy. So if you were to replace the entire U.S. grid with nuclear power, that's great.
We would reduce our carbon footprint, and then everyone would be like, awesome, now the energy
is so cheap, I can buy more gas to do these things. So I'm with you on what we should have been doing for a long time now and haven't been is working on carbon capture, ways to do that.
That's really the only sensible kind of thing.
And I go back to my first job in government in the 70s in the Department of Energy, a summer intern, right? And I was like trying to figure out
how to reduce our oil import dependence on the Middle East
because it was causing wars and embargoes and poverty
and all that kind of stuff like that.
Never, ever did I imagine in the 1970s
could this country ever become energy independent.
But we did that during the Trump administration because of a change in technology, fracking. And so this is how I think we're going
to get out of the climate change box, if you believe we're in one. It's that carbon capture
has to be the only sensible way to do that.
Otherwise, you're going to force Americans to save.
Your family saves a pound of carbon.
And meanwhile, the Chinese create two pounds for every pound we save.
Black gold, baby.
They wind up being the leaders of the world and the prosperous country.
And we can't have that for a lot of reasons.
I want to jump to this next story from the Daily Mail.
Mississippi's largest city runs out of water indefinitely.
Over 180,000 people are left without drinking water
and can't flush their toilets or take showers.
What?
After floods made Jackson's water treatment plant fail.
Jackson, Mississippi ran out of water indefinitely,
leaving more than 180,000 residents without water.
Governor Tate Reeves announced on Monday the city's failing water system was completely down due to years of poor infrastructure. Mayor Chokwe Antar Lamumba
said the recent Mississippi flood strained the city's water plant, water plant.
So I just want to tell you this, you know, when I tell people the education you're going to need
right now is how to survive. I hope the people jackson know how to pull water from the air solar-powered water
condensation well i mean you don't really need to do that you can just put a piece of plastic at an
angle and then bend the bottom so it gets humidity out of the air or you can dig tunnels underground
where the wind goes underground and then condenses and then creates like a puddle of water underground
yeah i mean like the basic thing is you dig a hole you put a cup in it you put plastic underground and then condenses and then creates like a puddle of water underground. Yeah, I mean, like the basic thing is you dig a hole, you put a cup in it, you put plastic wrap, and then the condensation trickles down.
But they have these big things you can buy.
They're just plastic sheets that roll down into tubes.
You put it up, and in the morning, all of the humidity condenses and then goes down.
You get some water.
But anyway, look, I don't think that's going to be practical for a city of 180,000 people. But when you see stuff like this, this should be a cold splash of water in the face.
That, yo, we don't live in Elysium.
We don't live in a world of infinite resources.
We live in a bubble protected by people with guns and machines that secure resources easily
for us.
The reality of the world at any moment, this could be gone.
And I've talked about this because I remember like 10 years ago in Ohio, I don't remember
how long ago it was, there was an algal bloom and all of the water became toxic because
of the algae and there was no water for 40 miles.
I can't remember what city it was.
Was it Cincinnati or something?
I think so.
I don't know.
And so people were driving out buying bottled water and then it was all disappearing.
It was nothing because you couldn't get your, your water source went dirty there. You know, I see so many people who just live assuming everything's always going to be
fine. There's always water. There's always food. I got nothing to worry about. Then one day there's
going to be a flood. They're going to have no water, no food, and they're going to scream,
save me. And no one's going to be there to hear it.
That's the reality of what's going on right now, man.
And by the way, how much was it that we just sent to Ukraine?
Oh, they're trying to do a billion in Taiwan now.
How much could that have been used to do the infrastructure in Jackson for a little water?
A little desalination. I mean, I don't know if you remember Flint,
Flint, Michigan,
when they lost their water source.
It took years, years, years
for that thing to recover.
And it left a lot of kids damaged.
It took months to get billions to Ukraine.
You know, so that's good news, I guess.
We can snap our fingers and
send money to a foreign country that's not us put our troops on their border pull our border patrol
and send them to poland but uh fixed pipes in flint i don't know about that it's it's frightening
how particularly in this this age we're in in the biden stagflation economy how many people in this
country live paycheck to paycheck to paycheck i mean it, it's, it, it, with a turn, a quick turn of the screw here,
there's going to be even more pain that we're already suffering.
I mean, there's a lot of people now who can't pay their mortgages,
who can't pay their rent.
And that message, I somehow, you don't read much about that in New York Times or see it on
CNN or something. I wonder why. I'm really concerned with the student loan stuff because
of this. Because like if someone's struggling to pay their mortgage and then they find out that
they got $10,000 siphoned away from them to pay for some college guy, that there's going to be a
class hatred, just like Soviet Union, man. I do not like where this is.
A mortgage strike like in China.
When was that?
Yeah, right now.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, yeah.
And that stuff can spread like, as they say in China, a prairie fire.
That scares the hell out of the Chinese Communist Party when people start resisting like that.
Yeah.
But you need more, I suppose.
And they suppress the information there.
But yeah, China's on the verge of collapse.
I don't know, man.
I kind of think that people aren't really paying attention to the supply crisis that's
been happening here in the U.S.
So I'm not surprised to see a story about a city running out of water.
So we're having construction done on the new headquarters, and it's been stalled.
It's been a year.
Now, I'm glad you raised that because the last time I was here was about a year.
We talked about, okay, this is going to be really cool going to your new studio.
And the other thing is, like, Brian gets me in the car.
He's like, where are we going?
Oh, same old place.
What's going on?
It's hard to get materials.
Nobody's working.
That's right.
My joke is the rapture happened.
That's the only way to explain it.
Airlines are shutting down.
There's no employees.
When you go out, there are fewer people.
There are fewer people everywhere.
I went to a diner Saturday at noon, and they were like, we're closed due to short staff.
I'm like, where are the people at?
People got to eat, right?
People got to pay rent.
What's going on?
Where are they?
So jokingly, I'm like,
they must have gotten raptured and we just don't know or something,
but they're gone.
And so we're trying to get this building put up
and they're a year behind.
A year behind?
We're a year behind.
What's your finished date now?
There's none.
It's stalled now.
It's dead. The project's stalled. And and it's because they're like the materials are unavailable
people people don't see this stuff because you know look most people aren't dealing with ordering
steel for instance or putting up a building yeah so they don't see that behind the scenes the core
materials that we need did you know that one of the largest aluminum plants in this country shut
down did you remember that story i do largest aluminum plants in this country shut down?
You remember that story, Hannah Claire?
Yeah, I do remember that.
Was it 20% of US aluminum production?
Wow.
They said they couldn't afford the electricity anymore.
Wow.
So, and I'm like, we're saving our aluminum cans.
You think, yeah, I'm joking.
The reason why they can't afford the electricity anymore
is because the price of aluminum
has been driven down by subsidized Chinese aluminum.
That's like one of the things that I fought in the White House.
We put in place steel and aluminum tariffs to provide a defense against that kind of
stuff.
And sure.
Here's what we do.
We take the we take our cans and we're smelting them down to ingots.
We have aluminum. This is why. Actually, so I don't know. Someone's what we do. We take our cans and we're smelting them down to ingots. We have aluminum boxes.
Actually, I don't know.
Someone's apparently done that.
I found a box with aluminum.
We are saving the cans, probably to recycle or something.
But somebody actually, it might be Chris.
It's Chris.
He's melting them down in ingots.
It breaks my heart.
Look, I know there's a supply chain crisis,
but it's actually ground to a halt.
Your new studio is teaching you how to get materials.
It was supposed to be done last year, like a year ago.
And then they were like, it's delayed.
We're going to have to wait.
We're going to have to wait.
And then finally in the spring,
they're like, we're going to lay the concrete.
Then they were like, now that the concrete foundation's up,
we should be able to get the steel
and get the building done.
Now it's August.
80% of the framing is done.
And they stopped and left. And they were like,
we don't have the supplies. So now it's just sitting there stalled again. It's absolutely insane. And I'm hearing this from tons of people saying that there's a bunch of materials they're
unable to get right now and they have to wait. Let me refer you to carbon dioxide and the
graphene that we could make out of it. I know I'm not like focused on the step right in front of me.
I'm kind of focused on the next third step, fifth and seventh after that.
But I'm like down to work with anybody in the government.
I don't know if the government's the right place to go with this.
I imagine American industry.
But it was always like Carnegie was a private sector guy.
He didn't build this.
The Americans didn't build the steel industry.
Well, an American did.
Carnegie, was it William Carnegie?
What do you think should I should I so I mean let's let's uh let's take it to the reality again what I did in the
Trump administration I think everything you're saying underscores the need to produce domestically
okay it's not just to have the steel factories here themselves but to have the supply chains that go with it. And we got hooked starting back 1960s on these globalized supply chains. factored in the appropriate geopolitical risk of being dependent on a China or Russia for energy
or whatever. And it was all about also cheap labor. So that's why everything got out there.
And I spent four years in the White House trying to do the Buy American thing, trying to make sure.
I mean, you take like one of the achievements I think we had was I did a Buy American executive order on essential pharmaceuticals. OK, and there's there's three there's three components to that.
You've got the finished dosage product itself.
Right. And then you've got the intermediate
chemicals you need to make it, and then you got raw materials. And the problem we have
is that those first two stages are completely almost all offshore, okay? As well as a good part of the finished dosha stuff. So bringing that back, very difficult. And the biggest, biggest two forces I had to fight were the big pharma folks. and Gucci shoes into the old Eisenhower executive building. We sit around a table and say, hey, we got to do this.
Like, this was like early pandemic.
It's like, we can't be dependent on these people.
And they say, no, no, no, impossible to do.
They would fight it.
But then the FDA would fight it as well
because the FDA is the servant of big pharma. Like those folks go through revolving
doors and get jobs there. They got stocks, this, that, and the other thing. But the point is that
if we source our production as well as our supply chains, then we won't be having the problems we're having. And there's no reason on God's good earth
why we should be short on aluminum and steel.
I mean, we got everything we need.
In Minnesota...
Where are the people at?
Yeah, well...
The rapture happened.
Well, the people, that's an interesting kind of issue
in and of itself because, you know there's there's topics we probably
don't want to go here but it's like there's reasons why people are out of the workforce
who got pushed out of the workforce and um this is a a political tragedy it's not an economic
tragedy it starts with your downstream politics here.
You know, politics, maybe your downstream economics.
What you're saying about the medical production or biomedical production.
I mean, the Biden administration just signed this $11 million deal to bring the last step of manufacturing the monkeypox vaccine to the U.S. from a Danish manufacturer.
They're manufacturing, I believe, in Michigan.
So in some ways, they are doing what you're saying, just only when forced to in complete crisis.
Well, yeah, there's about 400 essential medicines that we need in our cabinet.
And, you know, certainly, okay, great.
You got the monkey pox done.
But what have you done lately for all of the advanced pharmaceutical ingredients,
the API and the raw materials you need
for insulin, for example, or whatever it is?
And I'm just telling you that for a lot of reasons,
that stuff's, the most basic stuff's in India and China
because they don't have any environmental rules.
And that's kind of nasty to do.
And I was able to, there's a company called Flow.
It's P-H-L-O-W.
I was able to get some grant money for them.
And they had a process where they did all three stages under one building.
So you were able to get economies of scale and scope across that.
And those are the kinds of things.
I mean, we can't compete as a manufacturing country worker for worker. What we have to do is we got to produce more efficiently by having the best and smartest
machines wedded to the best and smartest labor.
And that's what our focus is.
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Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says,
Well done.
Fake Woke is moving up them charts.
You see?
Isn't that amazing?
Fake Woke number three.
And that's Tom McDonald.
I think you'd need like 50,000 people.
If they bought fake woke, I think he'd be like Billboard Hot 100 or something.
Is that impossible to do, 50,000 people, just to spend a buck to help support culture and stuff like that?
It's possible.
And that would end up being probably like 35, 40 grand in Tom McDonald's pocket
too.
That's the crazy thing.
It's like if everybody pitched in a dollar, imagine what you could accomplish.
Like people would just own the culture.
Well, you always say like, stop giving money to people who hate you.
And I think people think about it when they're buying products or shopping at restaurants,
but like shopping or like eating out.
But when you are buying music or stream music, you are doing the exact same thing.
You have the ability to influence.
Well, it's also, you know, look, Jeremy Boring, Daily Wire said, stop giving money to people
who hate you.
Give it to me instead.
I'll just put it this way.
Start giving money to people you like or to people who are making things you like.
You know, whoever that may be.
All right.
Smokey Joe says, never underestimate establishment GOP's ability
to waste opportunity.
If they eke out their win,
it won't be celebration,
but an enormous wash of relief.
Oof.
False God Dark Soul says,
pop culture crisis is greater than IRL.
Well, well, actually,
pop culture crisis.
We had a day today. It was very wild. $1,300, something like that, in super chats. Yeah um we had a day today it was very wild thirteen hundred dollars
something like that in super chats yeah we had 13 crisis parties the crisis party meter goes off
every time we reach a hundred dollars in super chats uh someone actually super chatted that in
and our response was we'll say it to tim on irl tonight so we're well there you go have you here
there you go uh but yeah you guys should check that out at three o'clock right now in super
chats pop culture crisis for the day is oh sorry no no that's it someone super chat us right now and now we're officially beating pop culture crisis it was
a nice try brett and mary you guys don't have the lights and the money guns like it's a different
experience here yeah so for those that aren't familiar pop culture crisis is a pop culture
show that we launched and it's more fun pop culture not political and then whenever a hundred
dollars in super chats comes in money guns start firing guns into the air
and the lights go off.
Anytime you Super Chat, the money guns go off.
But when it's $100, we get like...
A lot of it.
You have to try and talk through
while these lights are flashing their arrow horns.
And you're like, I'm making an interesting point, I swear.
It's like burning, man.
Ian said the money got in his coffee.
Yeah, one time.
Yeah, that happened to me too.
There you go.
You get to keep it.
I pick up my coffee and hold it when they're going off.
Got to protect it. All right. R right rye lion says chat last night said tired of diversity
inclusivity and equity training at job i was too made policies discriminated against whites and men
found new job and filed complaint you can't do i'll just say this ladies and gentlemen if you
work for a company and they make you watch a video that discriminates on the basis of race, complain
and file a complaint and see how fast they change their policies. See, this is the issue.
I don't care about the race of the individual. You can't discriminate on the basis of race.
These die trainings are coming out and being like white privilege or whatever. Okay, well,
that's still against the law. You need to only be like, hey, they were saying a bunch of racist
things in that video. And then they're going to be like, uh, what?
Here's what I say. You file a complaint and you say, my boss made us watch a racist video.
What were they saying in that video? I refuse to repeat the racist things they said. You're
not going to make me say it. You like, that's it. They made us watch a video or a bunch of
racist things were happening where people were saying racist things to people where people were
encouraging racism. And then it's like, what specifically was
it? You're not going to get me to repeat the racisms. Sorry. But they'll fold. Not everybody.
You know, I've talked about this before. Some companies will be like, screw you,
because we're in a cult. You know what I mean? Some people might panic and be like, oh, no,
we're going to get sued if we do this again. All right. George M. says, loved your no BS attitudes attitude mr navarro a bit of a fan i have
worked in manufacturing my whole life and now own my own automation business how could we talk about
rapid made in america resurgence strategy yeah that's it that's that's a hits the nail on the
head these are the kind of advanced manufacturing techniques that we could have been nurturing. There was a key point during the pandemic when we were
trying to work with the Democrats on a stimulus bill, which at the time was appropriate given the mess we were in.
And the battle was really over how you'd spend the money.
And in the Trump side of the fence, what we wanted to do was use a bunch of that money
to onshore manufacturing and build manufacturing under the assumption that if you were going to stimulate the economy and create
rising real wages and prosperity, the best way to do that would be to have jobs here. And part of
the money that would have been spent would be on these advanced manufacturing techniques so you
could stay ahead of the sweatshops and pollution havens of Asia. So good for Super Chat Man there.
All right.
Alex Alcala says,
Rapture probably did happen.
I don't see Seamus anymore.
Is that what that was?
Is that what?
I went out one day and I saw a naked Seamus
being pulled up into the sky through a sunbeam.
And I just, I assumed he was going to the store or something.
I just thought he was flying.
I just thought he was flying.
That's how he gets around.
Yeah.
I thought it was normal.
Haven't seen him since. Yeah. He That's how he gets around. Yeah. I thought it was normal.
Haven't seen him since.
Yeah.
He's gone.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
And also, he didn't put out a cartoon for a while.
Oh, my gosh.
That's just because he's lazy.
No, just kidding.
I'm just kidding, Seamus.
Oh, Seamus.
Oh, he's going to cast us. He's sitting in a lounge chair right now in like a bathrobe, and he's like curling his
fingers like, oh, yeah, Claire.
He always used to steal my desk when he was here.
I would say good riddance
jayden jeru says long time listener first time super chatter wanted to say that only ever wanted
is my favorite new song of 2022 can't wait to see what else you guys release keep up the good work
yeah i think the next song is like in one month our plan is gonna is gonna so we got to figure
it out because there's only so much we can do but we might be putting out like a piano light soft you know version of it we'll see violin or something
because uh and then i think for a month from then the next song uh the next official song is we we
want to get out a new song every four weeks and definitely a new song every single month
forever moving forward. Literally forever.
Be it from me or anybody else that we end up signing and things like that.
But it means we need to expand the operation. It means we need to generate revenue from the
operation. And we're working with some rad dudes. I don't want to say too much, but there's a lot
of interest. I'll put it this way. After the success of this song we put out, the interest is through the roof. And we've got people reaching out to us. They want to work with
us and expand the operation because, yeah, a lot of views, a lot of hits to that song,
only ever wanted. Click the link below if you want to buy it. Appreciate the support.
But because of all your support, now we've got people who are like, dude, let's make more. Let's
work together. And we've got some interest that's going to help kick things up to the next level.
Waffle Sensei says, Ian is out here doing the lord's work trying to spread the word about graphene and save the world and my guy tim here dressed in black block trying to shut him up
shaking my head if without resistance you will fail yeah everybody needs a little conflict right
raymond g sanley jr says save the ian save the world. David Beck says, never change, Ian, never change.
That's an inevitable change.
All right, we'll grab some more super chats.
Stan says, Biden planning a Thursday primetime live message.
Think he will announce or address any Trump charges?
No, but is Lauren in town then?
We should hit up Lauren Southern and tell her she has to be in town
to do another Biden speech night drunk party.
That would be so funny.
That was hilarious the last time.
Have you heard about this?
No, no, no.
What happened?
The last time Biden did a State of the Union, I think,
we had a drinking party and then we played bingo.
Played bingo, yeah.
Every time Biden would do a predictable thing,
you'd mark it off and then see who won.
Did you watch that? His State of the the union it was like a campaign speech they called it a state
of the union but he just talked about what he was going to do i rarely watch things in real time i'm
an asynchronous kind of guy so i'll catch that stuff later and i i just i haven't i have a really
difficult time even watching Joe Biden.
I remember during the campaign, it was very clear to me, and I said this repeatedly publicly,
that this man was mentally diminished, that he would not serve out his full term,
and that we were going to hand over the country to somebody who was both incompetent and corrupt. And, I mean, as old as he looked and acted on Inauguration Day,
I mean, that man is, he's approaching ghoul-like, ghost-like.
I mean, it's just weird.
I mean, he's aging faster than any person.
Than they can prevent him from aging.
I mean, it's just scary.
We'll see, man.
Yeah, I mean, we might wind up with Kamala as president.
God help us.
We get what you ask for.
All right.
Aiden says, Rip Mikhail Gorbachev.
That's right.
He died.
He was the worst leader in Soviet history.
Yes, yes.
The one that oversaw the demise of the Soviet Union.
But from our perspective, the best.
The best, he was great.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Apparently, he was really upset that Putin was destroying his legacy.
That's what I saw in a report, and I'm like, oh, okay.
All right.
W Falcon says, hey, Tim, when are we going to get the Shane Cashman?
Your honesty is appreciated, but your reality is disgusting.
Coffee mug.
Oh, is that one of his quotes? That's fantastic. That's great. Yeah, we should make that now. Well, you know, we need to expand a lot. So we really need to just grow, hire more people,
but there's only so many people we can hire because we're kind of at our limit.
And so we need more people to sign up and watch Inverted World, more people to watch Cast Castle,
and we're offering these things trying to get more and more people to sign up and watch Inverted World, more people to watch Cast Castle, and we're offering these things
trying to get more and more people,
and we're spending a lot of money in marketing,
and it is what it is.
It's slow growth,
but pop culture crisis is starting to take off.
Getting a lot of new subscribers every day,
1,300 in Super Chats in one day.
I failed to mention that Brett and I have a wager
where if we get 15 Super Chat or crisis parties
in one episode, he'll bleach his hair.
No.
Mary will bleach
it for him Mary is his
co-host who's got gorgeous
blonde hair just in case
you guys needed a reason
to tune in tomorrow at
3 p.m. I definitely think
you should go check out
pop culture crisis I
think you're on tomorrow
right?
get Brett to bleach his
hair yeah he at first
said 10 well I said 10
crisis parties and he
said no 15 which I
thought was reasonable
it's gonna happen of
course well as we got closer today we like some like suddenly hit 10 and we can see brett eyes
like shifting this year and then we hit 13 and he was like okay so let's do outros let's wrap the
show let's get out of here it's gonna be like 14.99 he's gonna go show's over click right and
then someone's gonna send in the dollar before the show can he's got 30 seconds but i have to
watch the first fast and furious because we hit 10 uh christmas oh really yeah which i've never seen
and i'm opposed to generally why why are there 10 fast and furious movies don't you think that's
too many aren't there 11 is it working on their 10th i don't know well it's f9 plus hobson shaw
i guess no the ff the the f The FFCU is the greatest cinematic universe.
Oh, gosh.
You should come on
Pop Culture Crisis
and debate me on this.
I oppose this.
I just don't like movies.
In the latest Fast and the Furious,
they went to outer space.
Oh, my gosh.
That's stupid.
That was amazing.
No, I think this is too many.
What I want to happen
is I want Vin Diesel
and his crew
to be like,
yo, we got another
driving mission.
It's at this nuclear power plant.
Top secret job.
And then they like go in, but then there's an explosion.
They get blasted with radiation and then they all get superpowers.
And then like Vin Diesel gets super speed.
And then, you know, Ludacris becomes like, he gets like techno powers.
What is it?
Technokinesis.
He can control machines.
And then they're like flying around but
then like there's because they already they already have superpowers in it in hobbs and shaw
idris elba was a super soldier with like nanotech modifications like we're already here dude i want
superhero vin diesel oh no do you have an opinion on fast and furious peter navarro i do not haven't
watched any any of the i've heard they keep getting made because they always make money.
And I can understand that logic.
They went to outer space.
That is stupid.
No, it's not.
It is the greatest thing ever.
Wasn't there one of their stars, though, that tragically died?
Yeah, Paul Walker.
Right.
He was the original.
Yes, yes.
That I did know with some tragedy, yes.
They should do it on Mars.
Maybe you should watch Fast and Furious with me
because I don't know.
I'll keep my word, but I was not excited.
You know, I'm more of kind of a slow and mellow
kind of guy these days.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, you're not the target demographic.
Here's a question for Peter.
Peter Provenzano says,
what have you, Trump, and Bannon learned
about your bad personnel decisions,
Milley, Esper, Bolton, et cetera, And how will it be fixed in the next administration?
Well, in the Taking Back Trump's America book, I do offer the dream cabinet as well as the dream staffing of the White House.
And as far as I can see, if they put somebody like one of my favorites back from the Trump days, this guy named Johnny
McAtee. I met him during the campaign. He was originally one of the two body men for the boss.
We'd fly out on, we called it Trump Force One, right, which was the Trump plane where he'd go
campaign and stuff like that. Johnny joined the administration.
He got treated really badly by Chief of Staff Kelly,
but he came back at the end to run the personnel decision.
All you need is the McAtee filter on there
to get the right people in.
We've got to get Trump back in,
but we've also got to get the right people in
to run the world here. That's the most important thing
is, you know, and also firing all the
wrong people. All the schedule
left stuff, right? Yes, yes, yes.
I mean, look,
the thing about
a second Trump term
is that the boss knows how to do
this now from day one.
And he's got people who know
how to do it.
And we know what to do.
We know what to do on the economy, certainly.
What do you think about, you got Ben Shapiro, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingram, even Alex Jones saying Trump's not the right path forward.
Many of them saying Ron DeSantis. Well, keep in mind that my bailiwick is fair trade, making sure that traders don't cheat, and American manufacturing.
And I don't know that Ron DeSantis has ever said a word about cracking down on Chinese economic aggression and imposing tariffs.
It's not clear to me that he knows
anything about that issue, but that's going to be the key to getting back our economy. And yeah,
look, I know the boss, love the guy. I know he knows what to do. And so I'm a Trump guy.
Yeah. All right. This is a good one. Mahill says, in my experience, boxes are usually empty or maybe with a little cheese stuck to the top.
And one time pepperoni. What a day that was. All right. Who knows the reference?
Oh, the FBI raided 11 pizza boxes from Trump's house.
And that's no one knows the reference. No, no, no, no, no, no.
It's too bad. Zoidberg. Yep. Yep, you all get three demerits.
Stephen Hartman says,
I'd like to know this gentleman's opinion on nuclear power,
its potential role in aiding in what seems to be a global energy crisis,
and should we consider domestic production of uranium
as an area of national importance and security?
First book I ever wrote, 1984, The Dimming of America.
The central thesis of that book is that bad regulation around the country
was suppressing the development of coal and nuclear power plants,
and that would lead to electricity shortages in 2000.
And I was in California when that and Enron hit.
The trick with nuclear power, and it's a big trick,
is to figure out how to build them safely.
But again, apropos of talking with Ian about technology,
I mean, there's smaller, safer, modular kind of systems
that can be built, standardized,
and they have a place in our grid.
I mean, this whole electric vehicle thing,
the Biden administration keeps forgetting
that in order for an electric vehicle to run,
they need electricity.
Yep.
Have you seen nuclear diamond batteries?
They're recovering spent nuclear fuel,
like nuclear waste,
and then they're putting it inside of diamond
and it's creating a low charge for like, you get like 10,000 years of electrical charge.
By the way, I buried the lead about DeSantis in the in the trading back Trump's America book.
I recommend DeSantis as do that because then he'd be
in the White House for 12 years. I agree. I agree. I think it's, you know, we had, I think it was
Santorum who was on and said 12 years of a Republican presidency is wishful thinking,
but I still think it's probably the right approach. DeSantis was not in the White House.
He just, what was he was in was in Congress before, the governorship.
Donald Trump went through this on the first.
Was he in Congress?
DeSantis, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right?
He was, right?
Pretty sure.
I do not know.
Look that up.
He wasn't?
I don't think he was in Congress.
I don't remember him being in Congress.
Maybe state legislature or something.
He might have been in state legislature.
Oh, is that what it was?
Maybe in the state house.
He kind of came over.
Yeah.
He came out of nowhere.
He was in the House?
Yeah, he was House of Representatives.
Was he? Yeah. 2013 to 18. came out of nowhere he was the house yeah he was house representative wasn't he yeah trump yeah he wasn't congress trump saved him uh i don't know if
he saved him but the trump endorsement kind of propelled him in in what was a highly competitive
race at the time and look he acquitted himself very very well on something that he and i totally
agree on which was that you know the the follies of fauci and I totally agree on, which was the, you know, the, the, the follies of Fauci and everything Fauci did.
He did the opposite of, and right on, you know,
they locked down for a little while, but things got better. I think,
I think it's a good move to read some more. We got X runner who says,
my plumber friend laughs, get a degree or you will be a burger flipper.
He gets served at starbucks by masters
holders me i went stem no loans that's true it's like there's a meme where it's uh it's a woman
holding a book and it's like 120 000 student loans no job in debt wants you to pay for it
and then it's like a guy working on a telephone pole and it's like 100 000 a dollar dollars a
year union job no debt like it's off all electricity. Yeah, exactly.
Shuts off the electricity of the...
Yeah.
11th Hour Studio says,
Huge thanks to TimCast and the thousands
who viewed my cover of Will of the People,
uploaded a much higher quality re-record,
and a cover of Only Ever Wanted on the way.
Great show tonight, as always.
Right on, man.
So Will of the People is the first song we put out and i was actually really
bummed when going through the data it it would have been it would have hit the charts because
we didn't know what we were doing we just uploaded the song we were like hey look we did a song
and it's actually doing really really well in the past like two months it's gotten like hundreds of
thousands of hits on spotify which i didn't even realize just started doing really well and then
it's funny to see all these lefties saying that they liked the song and then they realized it was from me. And they're like, oh, no. Oh, no.
Paul Renfer says, when do we get a song where Tim sings it in that homeless voice?
I mean, maybe on Chicken City or something.
Chicken City, the album.
Chicken City. We have a Chicken City theme song. We already demo tracked it, too.
It's going to be great.
I like it.
Yeah. Chicken City, man.
All right. Jeffrey Dubois says, hey, guys, I. I like it. Yeah, Chicken City, man. All right.
Jeffrey Dubois says,
Hey guys, I'm a big fan.
Tim, can you set up a process
for us to donate money
to specific projects we want
like the website being developed
or the app
or some other project in the works?
Well, I mean, that's fantastic.
If you sign up to become a member
at TimCast.com,
there's a bunch of different tiers.
It's like 10 bucks to be a member
and then the other tiers are
basically like if you give 25 bucks you're basically giving a 15 donation on top of the
10 price so uh we yeah i'll leave it at that you can choose to give more as for like the app and
the website being developed it's just labor you know like we we have the resources to fund it we
don't have the people and finding them them is difficult. It's not easy.
The rapture.
Yeah, the rapture happened.
Where is everybody?
And it's not just that, but look, hiring is a minefield.
Someone walks up to your door or emails you and they're like, I'll take a job.
And you've got to figure out if they're capable of doing it.
And it's hard.
So it's difficult, man.
Let's grab some more super chats.
All right.
Dave Wiggin says, love that you were able to get Navarro on here.
Amazing to see the context and personality of an individual, especially after seeing
the insanity we live in.
Very powerful to see these individuals as regular people hoping for the best.
That's right.
Absolutely.
Mavis says, loan forgiveness is all fun and games until states like New York tax it as income.
And they will.
Why wouldn't they?
You think the government's going to give you 10 grand
and the state's going to be like,
oh, we're not interested in that.
10 grand of your own tax money
and then they're going to tax you on it.
Can you imagine that?
That's right.
I stand by it.
Biden just did this to be able to say,
I am the student loan forgiveness president.
Well, he, I don't think I'm saying it. Student loan accelerated repayment program president is what he's doing.
He's trying to make us pay back our own loans fast.
Maybe service guarantees citizenship, man.
Nick says, Tom McDonald is great, but don't sleep on Chris Webby.
You'll love his raw thoughts V if you like Tom.
Right on.
Okay.
Only Ever Wanted said,
in the end, what separates
a man from a slave? Money? Power?
No. A man chooses,
a slave obeys. Andrew Ryan,
Bioshock. What a great game.
All right.
David Scott says,
you got to get Tony Heller on the show. Who's that?
Don't know who that is. I don't to get Tony Heller on the show. Who's that? I don't know.
I don't know.
Tony Heller.
Marion Holtzman says,
you live in a blue state?
No problem here in Tennessee
to get anything done.
I've been constructing for three years.
No problem.
No, we're in West Virginia.
West Virginia is MAGA country, baby.
But there's like a big thing happening
because there's like a child.
There's an all ages drag show
happening in Martinsburg.
And all of a sudden, everybody's starting to lose their minds, I guess.
So it's all being shared on the local forums.
And they're like, why?
I'm kind of worried.
Why would you put on a drag show all ages in MAGA country?
Martinsburg, West Virginia is really interesting because they get a flow of people from D. and northern virginia coming i get it but it's still manga country i think that they don't
think it is because they're like oh it's sort of a city and so we we occupy here like they think
they're being um provocative enough where they'll only attract like-minded people and i just i think
it's not well thought out yeah man i was we were looking at setting up an operation in martinsburg
but i'm i'm gonna steer clear of that stuff And it's not just about the drag show for for kids. It's
that there was a diner that was closed at noon on a Saturday. And I'm just like, it's a bad place to
buy property. Oh, you know, they they they're people there think that it's become it's coming
up. It's the city in West Virginia. And I feel bad because I'd love to see West Virginia thrive.
But not if that's the kind of thriving that comes to town when you start building it up
you know what i mean so i'm kind of like no go somewhere else man yeah yeah maybe maybe move
further you know west into west virginia all right we'll grab a couple more here 10 bucks
two says fast and furious 23 revengeance the crew goes on the ultimate heist. They steal time by racing inside the Large Hadron Collider.
They gotta steal the original copy of Fast and the Furious.
They go back in time and get a copy of it.
If there are 20 Fast and the Furious, I will be real mad.
I will be quite furious indeed.
That's too many.
You might love it by then.
No, I don't think I will.
I mean, I want to stay open-minded.
You might be resigned. The future is being written. All right, everybody. If you haven't already, might love it by then. No, I don't think I will. I mean, I want to stay open-minded. You might be resigned.
The future is being written.
All right, everybody.
If you haven't already,
would you kindly smash that like button,
subscribe to this channel,
share the show with your friends,
head over to timcast.com
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We're going to have a members-only show
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And click the link in the description below.
It'll bring you over to Bandcamp
where it's very, very easy
to just click buy the song for 69 cents
if you want to support Only Ever Wanted. If you guys buy enough, we might actually
chart, which would be really cool. Otherwise, buy the song and check it out, or it's available on
all streaming platforms if you want to check it out there, and we're going to be releasing a lot
more. The goal with this is just to make culture, and look, I would have been satisfied if the song
came out and had like, you know, 50 to 100k hits, and we were like, you know, that's all it is.
Instead, it's got like a million plus, you know, combined on all these other platforms.
And it's kind of crazy.
And, you know, it is what it is.
Really do appreciate all the support.
You can follow the show at SimCast IRL.
You can follow me at SimCast.
Peter, do you want to shout anything out?
Yeah, as long as we're pushing stuff.
Let's get me to Amazon number one, Taking Back Trump's America.
And by the way,
this book doubles as my legal defense fund.
So help your brother out, baby.
Taking Back Trump's America.
Available on Amazon today.
It's the key to getting back
the House of Representatives
in the November election
and the White House in 2024.
When were you on last? About a year ago in the earlier book.
This is a planned second book of the three memoirs from my White House years. But I decided,
given the Biden fiasco, to make sure that this was prospective as a way of showing how what we did the first term would help us move forward
and get back to White House again in 2025.
Right on, man.
All right.
Thanks for coming.
You got it.
You saw charts, my book charts.
Hey, it's all good.
It's all good.
But the problem is if we get money, we still can't build anything
because there's no supply chain.
But I'm working on that too.
I might know where we can find
some graphene.
The air.
I'm Hannah Claire Bremlow. I want to say
happy birthday to my older brother.
He's excellent and I'm a huge fan.
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And, Peter, always a pleasure, my man.
My brother.
Looking good.
Graphene baby all the way.
Nice outfit.
I actually knew about that.
My stepson is a graphene freak.
Awesome.
You must listen to Ian.
There's more to it.
What a fun description.
It's the fiend structure.
There's like borophene as well, the boron in that same house.
He's building an internet with photons.
Oh, yeah.
Using light.
He's like a physics guy.
They're using like sound guided light instead of electricity.
Well, the idea is you can transmit for internet purposes using photons.
Life fidelity. Yes. Yeah. Like fidelity.
Yes.
Cool.
That's your nephew.
He introduced me to my stepson.
He introduced me to graphene.
Oh,
that's beautiful.
Physics,
physics guy.
Yes.
All right.
Thank you guys all very much for tuning in this casual Tuesday.
I am on pop culture crisis tomorrow,
three to 5.
PM.
Eastern standard time.
Let's see if we can get Brett to dye his hair or to bleach his hair.
Oh, my gosh.
So exciting.
I would love to see this.
You know you want to see an Eminem, Brett.
You do.
Oh, yeah.
Just search Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube.
Subscribe.
It is a similar format show to this, but it's actually the more fun version.
Like, we laugh sometimes, but Pop culture crisis is like money guns
firing off
while people are talking
landing in coffee
and talking about games
TV shows
movies
so it was meant to be
more entertainment
where we're very serious
and screaming
like the end is near
someone
Alex Jones comes on
he's banging on the table
about he's a gorilla
and you know
actually that's pretty fun
that was pretty fun too
yes it is very fun
it's a totally different vibe
you guys should check it out
like I always say
politics is downstream of culture keep up with the culture on pop culture crisis
you guys can follow me on twitter and minds.com at sarah patchlets as well as sarah patchlets.me
we will see you all at timcast.com we'll be hanging out with peter for a special uncensored
uh segments comes uh comes up at about 11 p.m we'll see y'all then thanks for hanging out bye
