Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #608 Dem Media Says Civil War IS NOW, Biden Speech Likened To War Speech w/Matt Kibbe

Episode Date: September 3, 2022

Tim, Ian, & Lydia are joined by Matt Kibbe to discuss the Babylon Bee criticizing Joe Biden's speech at Independence Hall, MSNBC saying we are already engaged in a civil war, lawsuits filed over Big T...ech's collusion with the White House, and Americans taking out loans for groceries. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:59 So you guys don't get to drink because I didn't say it. They said it. Don't look at me. I'm just sitting here. I'm sitting here minding my own business. And then Joe Biden comes out with red lights and the Marines yelling about how half the country is all evil and everything. And then MSNBC, they said the Civil War is now.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Literally. Tiffany Cross said it feels like Civil War is here and previously said Civil War is here. And so if that's true, MSNBC and Joe Biden did come out and say the things that he said, that is, is that a declaration of war? There's tons of prominent Democrat personalities likening this to 1860 and 1940 saying that this is a presidential wartime speech. That's what they think. So I'll tell you this, to those that don't think you're in some kind of civil war, that's the advantage they have,
Starting point is 00:01:51 the element of surprise. That when the feds go after Donald Trump, when they raid his house, when they start going after the lawyers, they just tell you, oh, it's all normal. It's not a civil war and people sit back and just watch. But if MSNBC said it, far be it for me to tell them they're wrong. They're MSNBC. Go to TimCast.com, become a member, support our work directly. Check out the latest episode of Cast Castle featuring Marjorie Taylor Greene. It's a good laugh. We also have a clip up on YouTube. The next week's episode is going to be funny and spicy. And I'll just say, I'm pretty sure that if, it's going to be,
Starting point is 00:02:26 it's a four-part arc now. It's four episodes that like YouTube would just, let's just say YouTube wouldn't appreciate. The jokes that we're making are, yeah, we'll leave it at that.
Starting point is 00:02:37 But we'll have more on that next week when it comes out, Tuesday at 7 p.m. Smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us to talk about all of this news and more is Matt Kibbe. Hey, it's good to be back.
Starting point is 00:02:49 And I am the head of an organization called Free the People. I'm also the host of Kibbe on Liberty, a podcast that's co-produced by Free the People and Blaze TV. is to tell beautiful stories about liberty and to connect with people at an emotional level and not just do the typical libertarian thing where we just sort of bombard people with logic and facts and all and downward sloping demand curves and all that stuff that economists do because I realized quite a bit ago that I was the unusual one and that most people process the world through their emotions. Tim, you talk about this all the time, that culture is upstream of politics. And so we want to turn people on.
Starting point is 00:03:33 My team is basically a video production crew. I have actors and artists and people that want to tell beautiful stories. Some of those stories are uplifting and some of them are devastatingly dark. Right on. Thanks for joining me. Thanks for joining me. We also have Hannah Claire Bermelow. Hi, I'm Hannah Claire Bermelow. I'm a writer for TimCast.com. Yeah, sure. She was right. She was right. Hey, Matt, I'm glad you're here, man. I'm Ian Crossland,
Starting point is 00:03:59 obviously, if you don't know already, it's right behind me. Don't forget it. I'm glad you're talking about emotions, man. I was thinking last night, what do I do on this show? I listen to what people think and why they feel the way they feel. Yeah. It's so important. Everyone's different, you know, and you start to learn about humanity when you get a piece of everybody. Thanks for being here, man.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Thank you. A hundred percent. We were talking last night about how feelings don't care about facts, which is something that I came up with on my own because I started to realize that this is why I think conservatives lose and definitely libertarians. Good for you for making a difference. Me and my little T-Rex arm over here. Let's get this party started. So the first story we're going to go to, we're going to check in with our good friends over at the Babylon Bee. And over at the Babylon Bee, every single article, okay, almost
Starting point is 00:04:38 all the new ones are the image of Joe Biden with the red lights and the Marines behind him yelling. And we have Biden abolishes office of president and names self Supreme Fuhrer. Biden signs non-aggression pact with Poland. Biden announces invasion of Poland. Bravo, Babylon Bee. Great. So here's the story from Newsweek. Joe Biden compared to Adolf Hitler by Trump loyalists. Not just Trump loyalists.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Many people are comparing him to Hitler, whether they like Trump or not. Y'all are just in a cult. But Newsweek, you know, I'll give some respect to because they have Batia Ungersargon, who's she's actually pretty good and tries to keep things a bit balanced. So that's OK. I'll give him that one. But take a look at this photo. We got to show this photo from the previous night. We did that watch party. But this photo has taken the internet by storm. This is a creepy photo. Everybody who is sane is questioning the judgment of the White House team. Yeah, Joe Rogan. Of course, Joe.
Starting point is 00:05:39 But Joe, I mean, Joe recently said vote Republicans. All the normal people, normal guys. Even Sam Harris said the optics were bad on this one. Interesting. Yes, but Sam Harris. And then he said, but something, something about my hatred of Trump. Sam Harris has gone insane. I tweeted like, you need an intervention, bro.
Starting point is 00:05:56 But we'll get into that. I want to say, we'll talk about Sam Harris. After the Trigonometry fiasco, I mean, this is a prominent, but he is a perfect example of what's happening now. So if we point out here, Marjorie Taylor Greene, look at this. She tweeted, what we all saw tonight from Biden, I guess when President Butterbeans is frail, weak, and dementia ridden, the Hitler imagery was their attempt to make him look tough while he declares war on half of America as enemies of the state. Oh, or it's real. Twitter blocked this video and it says
Starting point is 00:06:25 the following media includes potentially sensitive content. I'm going to click it. Are you ready? I am. Click. Oh, it's Biden with a fake mustache and swastikas behind him. So we had to bring in a libertarian to ask us what's happening. Is Joe Biden declaring himself the Supreme Chancellor? Is he asserting that for the security and prosperity, the American Republic will be reformed to the first American empire? So I didn't think of Hitler. I thought of Daenerys Targaryen in that last, I think it's the last episode where she goes, I guess she goes full Nazi in that. But yeah, like the imagery is super creepy. And I think that everyone should be a little bit freaked out about it. But yeah, like the imagery is super creepy. And I think that everyone should be a
Starting point is 00:07:07 little bit freaked out about it. But obviously, this wasn't an accident. They didn't like forget to frame the shot and realize that it was going to be this blood red kind of imagery. And so the question is, is he desperately talking to his base because he knows he's going to get trounced in the midterms. And the only thing he has left, like, you know, the economy sucks and people are paying so much for gas and groceries. And there's so much collateral damage caused by lockdowns. The only thing he has left is to get every single person that's turned on by the authoritarian imagery to show up and vote in the midterms? Or is it about...
Starting point is 00:07:54 His brain's broken? Is it real? Like, is it real? Oh, yeah. Is it real? I think it's real. Well, they asked him the day, I think Peter Doocy asked him,
Starting point is 00:08:04 do you really think that the Trump supportersy asked him do you like do you really think that the trump supporters are how did he phrase it do you have this are a threat to our threat do you really think the trump supporters are a threat he said i don't think any trump supporters are a threat and last night he was saying demented dude come on like so i think he what he really thinks is a threat is cultism and he's pointing out trump's cult because he was just president but cultism is dangerous. But that makes no sense. If he's saying, I don't think any Trump supporters are a threat, but he's talking about a cult,
Starting point is 00:08:31 and he thinks Trump supporters are in a cult, that makes no sense. It's like he's saying the cultism of Trump is dangerous, but the people themselves are not a threat. No, no, no. I think he's walking it back. Somebody tweeted. They said the overnights must have been really, really bad on this one. Oh, for sure. That picture came out like 10 minutes after the speech.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I bet they were. When that photo came out, let's grab that photo again. When this photo came out of Biden, like, it's crazy, dude. What the heck? The red lights with him going, ah! And just one person had to be like, instead of it being blue, red, blue, why don't we have it be red, blue? Like, it would have been a totally different game. It would be still weird, but like.
Starting point is 00:09:07 This picture is never going away. I think they know it and they know it. One of the networks slowly tweaked it and made it pink. CNN. CNN did. Really? They knew. And there was blue just outside on either side.
Starting point is 00:09:18 That's what I'm saying. But they cropped it. Someone was like, this is a great idea. We're going to write the speech. And you know what? We're going to be super patriotic. And we're going to put red right behind him and we're gonna do it at night so it's black and red it was to scare people it looks crazy the other part is this whole speech
Starting point is 00:09:31 he's just throwing out buzzwords i mean he says that uh maga supporters are extremists or threat he says that there are uh threats to democracy he invokes charlottesville. Like he is doing anything he can to be like supporting Donald Trump is supporting the worst of the worst. And I need you to be on my side because otherwise you are against the foundation of America. This is a crazy statement. It's like classic othering the other team. Right. And this is this is what every authoritarian done is done through history. You dehumanize the opposition so that you can do what you need to do. I don't think it's a mistake. And the question is, does he mean it?
Starting point is 00:10:12 I don't know what Joe Biden means because he's reading a script. I don't think he knows. But his team wrote that with very much a purpose of minimizing the humanity of half of America. Right. And that's what's so creepy about it. He even has that line where he says, like, not every Republican is like that. It's just that their party is dominated. And it's like an invite to be like Adam Kinzinger.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Like, you either need to align with the Democratic Party, even if you keep the name Republican. It'll throw you out. Yeah. I was talking to a friend about what we learned of our true friends when the cult started forming. And I was saying that we've known people our whole lives.
Starting point is 00:10:54 And all of a sudden, these people don't want to be friends anymore, or they're not answering texts, or they're walking away. I mean, Larry Elder told us stories like this. And what you realize then is these people will say or do anything to appear cool or to be socially accepted. But in reality, they're all just terrified. And they're just saying, whoever I fear the most, I will pretend to be like. So sure enough, as soon as Biden loses,
Starting point is 00:11:17 and he will, because this stuff never wins, it never does. I mean, there are periods where autocrats gain power, and then they lose power in the end. It never lasts forever. All of these people who defend this lie for it. They'll come out and be like, well, I was always against it. They'll be the first. And then what you need to realize is right now we're kind of lucky in that you can see who is actually a thinking person. You can see who is actually your real friend because you can ask them a simple question and see if their brain can process it.
Starting point is 00:11:46 So there are a lot of people I know that I'm like, huh, I wouldn't have known that they were a duplicitous scumbag until now. So I'd like to thank the cult for exposing all of these people. So Fauci came out recently and said, I was always against lockdowns. The Biden administration announced a couple of days ago that they were the ones that got children back into schools. Clearly, the policies of this administration, and I would even broaden it, the policies of lockdowns and dehumanizing people and telling people they can't speak, telling people they can't leave their house, telling people that they can't go to their job and feed their families. This is all coming to a head, which goes back to my theory that the only thing that the Democrats have is this otherizing and demonizing and getting every single hardcore Democrat, the 34% or
Starting point is 00:12:41 whatever it is, to show up in the midterterms because midterms are low turnout elections. Clearly, the people that have been damaged are going to show up and they're not showing up for Biden. They're showing up for something else. And that's the catastrophic future that they're facing. They knew this in 2020 and they feel the same way now. Biden does not rally anyone. What gets people to vote is the hatred of Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:13:07 So they've been planning this for some time. We saw them propping up MAGA Republicans. They were trying to get MAGA Republicans to win because they knew this was the trajectory. Now that the primaries are coming to an end, the goal, demonize MAGA, hit them all at once. That's the plan you know what things that bothers me is he was saying that he thinks that anyone that questions a free and fair election is a danger which i kind of like okay well how can you say that hillary clinton i mean that's not that's just oh well she did actually question the 2016 election never stopped but the big problem is when you have election tallies being calculated on a proprietary voting machine in secret, that's I would not just default consider that free and fair because it's in secret.
Starting point is 00:13:51 It's being tallied. I can't I can't see if it's free and fair. I can't see. I need to see the code. Did you see what Carrie Lake said? No. She was asked about this. Like, isn't Donald Trump, you know, with these threatening democracy or whatever?
Starting point is 00:14:02 And she was like asking about elections, asking like like every Democrat did after, you know, the 2016 election. She said people have a right to to to question the process. And how is that anti-American or a threat to this country or whatever? That's an insane prospect. What they want to do with the classified documents thing, they want you to think there is an authority above the president when it comes to classified documents. They want you to think that is an authority above the president when it comes to classified documents. They want you to think that Trump needed permission from someone. The National Archives, by the way. Right. They want you to think that as
Starting point is 00:14:32 commander-in-chief, you do not have the authority as the duly elected president or whatever to do these things. And this is, every step of the way, they're trying to make you think that you actually don't have the right to be involved in the process. When you come out and say, hey, we're doing a free and fair election, so I want to see those numbers on an open source machine
Starting point is 00:14:50 or the public should have access to the code, the source code, and we should be able to see them tally. Yeah, yeah, of, by, and for the people. That's the United States. They're trying to erase all of that and make you think that there's someone else you have to bend the knee to. Yeah, did anyone else not know that the national archives were the final arbiter of of what was legal for the president to take i think it's fascinating our country's highest authority is the acting our acting
Starting point is 00:15:15 archivists of the united states library librarians everywhere are like i had no idea this was such a path to power could there be a worse form of hell than the librarians taking full control? Seriously. Well, I was looking this up today because we were kind of talking about it with family because they were like, well, my mother-in-law actually asked. She was like, well, what did Hillary Clinton do
Starting point is 00:15:35 when the FBI came for her documents? And I was like, that's a great question. Let's talk about that. They smashed their phones with hammers. Bleach bit. Bleach bit the server. And she was not a president. She didn't have declassification authority.
Starting point is 00:15:49 She destroyed classified. Was it proven that she destroyed classified information? Or she just destroyed information? Her staff destroyed information. Was it her command? Yes. So she commanded her staff to destroy information. We don't know if it was classified or not.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Well, here's how it works. Let's say we've got a truth bomb on the table from Daily Wire. her staff to destroy information. We don't know if it was classified or not because it was destroyed. Well, here's how it works. If there's, let's say, you know, we've got a truth bomb on the table from Daily Wire. And let's say it was evidence or something. If I came out and said, Ian, destroy the evidence. Well, you committed a crime. If I said, Ian, clean the table.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Well, I didn't do anything wrong. I just said, clean the table. And then Ian goes and smashes the truth bomb with a hammer. Nobody committed a crime. So they're like, well, no one really did anything. It was one guy was just preparing a server and she was just telling him to clean things up. Yeah, we get it. Let's talk about where we go from here with Joe Biden is crack pottery. MSNBC's Eugene Robinson describes Biden's speech as urgent wartime address as network keeps evoking civil war.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Shut up, Fox News. Network keeps evoking civil war. Civil war is trending constantly over the past several months. MSNBC's Tiffany Cross has claimed it feels like the civil war is here. In fact, she said more than that. They have a video clip here. Let me see if I believe this is the one. Maybe it will play. Maybe it won't. All right. Let's every time. Well, because we were listening to music. We have listen parties before every show. There is no let's deal with the rhetoric at this point. I do think we have to have serious conversations around preparing for actual violence. People keep saying a civil war is coming. I would say a civil war is here. And I don't mean to be hyperbolic. We can look at what has happened just in the past week alone. Since all this has happened, we've had two people try to declare war with FBI field offices.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I don't think at this point we're going to all pack up our bags and go home and sing Kumbaya. She's right. Yep. She's 100% right. It doesn't matter what side you're on or who you think is factually correct or morally correct. What matters is that there were people going to FBI field offices. One guy tried to break through and I said, yeah, people are getting violent. You know, these things are happening. And even it was Eric Weinstein. What is this? Auto play video. Eric Weinstein said he doesn't see a path out of this. And I'm like, you know, like that's that's that's great. I've been saying that for a while. And I don't mean that as I can dig at him. I'm like, even he's now saying, you know, that's great. I've been saying that for a while. And I don't mean that as like a dig at him. I'm like, even he's now saying, you know, even Joe Rogan is saying,
Starting point is 00:18:09 I think Tim was right, a civil war is coming. Even Erica's saying, I don't see a path out of this. I said that a year ago. I mean, violent crime has been on the rise for the last two years. I think, I have to look at the numbers again, but I think it coincided before the pandemic was exacerbated by the pandemic. We obviously saw the summer of 2020, which was marked by violent riots. You know, it's hard to say whether the Civil War is coming
Starting point is 00:18:28 or we've been slowly drifting into it for some time. I think people expect there to be like a referee whistle and for it to be like, and we've begun. And that's never in history ever been the case.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Even Fort Sumter. They didn't know if that was the start of a civil war or not. They were shooting at each other like, well, you know, this could be nothing. We don't know. And people can't see the forest for the trees. Yeah. I'm looking at this quote from Joe Biden last night. We can't allow violence to be normalized in this country. But violence has been increasingly normalized in this country for so long. I mean, by him. Yeah. And how many times do we have to see like random person stabs elderly
Starting point is 00:19:01 women on the streets of New York before we see that violence is happening on so many levels of our society in a way that we're not used to. Can we get a Joe Biden clip where he's standing in front of the red, you know, shaking his fists and then we just have like one of these lefties going, are we the baddies? Yes, you are. It's you cheering on law enforcement and governmental expansion and violence against regular people. You know, I want to give a shout out to these left commentators, the social commentators who are cheering on Joe Biden right now, who cheer on Antifa, because when Antifa went and smashed the windows of the working class throughout a bunch of cities in this country, they cheered for that. That makes you the bad guys.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Like, you know, if you want to talk about evoking history or invoking history, then Kristallnacht, sure, you are the guys who went around smashing up everyone's windows. And guess what? You did it in black neighborhoods. There's viral videos of people in black neighborhoods begging Antifa to stop destroying their homes. But whatever, you didn't care, did you? So you know what? When these people tweet, like Ben Shapiro tweeted, Biden's gone crazy, and I see Hassan and Vosh, and they're like, seething and laughing about it. It's like, yes, you guys, they're evil. They don't care that Antifa went and destroyed the lives of working class people. They're in favor of the
Starting point is 00:20:13 elites and the system. I mean, Hassan bought himself a multimillion dollar house while claiming to be a socialist. Bravo. Good, sir. That's the grift. That's the racket. You've done it very well. So when when the lockdown started, I want to give some context to this. When the lockdown started, That's the grift. That's the racket. You've done it very well. theory was that if you lock people up and you tell them that they can't go to work and you tell them dictating every aspect of their life, things are going to get violent. And that's precisely what happened. Maybe it was orchestrated, but I think another theory about what Biden is trying to accomplish, and I think this MSNBC clip proves that, is that they want someone to take the bait. They want to be able to point to some MAGA guy that goes too far and gets violent so that their narrative completes, right? See, I told you they were going to get violent. So one way to think about,
Starting point is 00:21:18 another way to think about that speech is let's goad them into doing something stupid yes and then that's our narrative for the election yes i like that theory because it seems like social chaos is brewing as a result of the lockdown since september 11th 2001 people have been out of their mind pointing the finger at who's in who's at fault but like uh at it seems like an emergent phenomenon that it is a violence of desperation. And to acknowledge that would be like, well, we've been riding off the back of the Federal Reserve for 120 years. This is what happens when you defer your monetary responsibility and let people print your economy into oblivion.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Yeah. Well, just think about all these things, what they've done to children and all of the developmental damage by not being able to go to school or masking all of the people that died because they weren't allowed to go to the hospital. And maybe they died of cardiovascular disease. Maybe they died of cancer. Maybe they couldn't say goodbye to their parents who were dying. The list goes on and on, these inhuman indignities that have been imposed. And fair or not, and I think it's fair, the Biden administration, the Democrats, MSNBC, the lockdowners own this problem. So they have to come up with something else.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Because they're not going to win on the health of the economy. They're not going to win on, even though they say so, they're not going to win because they're not going to win on the health of the economy. They're not going to win on, even though they say so, they're not going to win because they opened the schools, because that's a lie. So what are they going to do? They're desperate, and they're trying to stoke civil war. It's disgusting. I think civil war has been here for a while,
Starting point is 00:23:02 and I think what we're seeing of them has been an increasing desperation because they've been losing. Over the past several years, there's been a, I mean, since Trump won. No, before that, I think it was even since Obama was president. Because it's a global civil catastrophe. We're in like a global civil uprising where a new government's attempting to form a one new world order, they're calling it. And Obama signing the Trans-Pacific Partnership, like getting on board with selling out to the malaysian oil companies was part of it it's like creating this corporatocracy but trump was very against that and so was bernie sanders which is kind of why i think why he got snowballed by the clinton campaign they were not really into
Starting point is 00:23:37 like yo let's sell out the people to the corporations and acquiesce to the metaverse you know uh mute mutation um and But that was like slowing it down. And I don't know if Biden's like in on it or if he just is being pushed along with it. Bidenism. I mean, he's part of the regime. He's part of the machine. Someone's writing his talking points for him.
Starting point is 00:23:59 I want to white pill you guys just for a second here. Yes, do it. Think about the trajectory. You mentioned the Tea Party, but you could go back to Ron Paul. You could probably even go back to Howard Dean. And you could certainly fast forward and look at Bernie and Trump as outsiders breaking the two-party duopoly and doing something that the establishment didn't want. And every step along the way, they've tried to whack it down. It's like whack-a-mole. Oh, people are finally speaking for themselves.
Starting point is 00:24:33 It turns out that not every Democrat wants Hillary Clinton. It turns out that not every Republican wants Mitt Romney. And there's this uprising going on, fueled by technology. This is the upside of technology. It is democratization at its best, and it turns out that people have a voice, and they have power, and they have control, and this is this existential fight that we have
Starting point is 00:24:56 between the machine that wants to crush us and people that want to be free, and I think we're in the middle of something. Maybe it's a civil war. Maybe we're figuring out how different other Americans are across the country in a way that we couldn't have possibly known before technology. But maybe we're also trying to figure out how to beat the man and reorganize things in a more decentralized way.
Starting point is 00:25:22 I think one of the things we're seeing, I mentioned those people that would just say or do anything to fit in or be cool. They've become stuck where they are. And so they're all, it's a Mexican standoff. They're all looking at each other saying, what should I say and what should I do? And there's no real leader anymore. It used to be that with a centralized media apparatus, you could say blue is the new green. And then all the people go, yes, blue, blue. Now that leader is gone. Now it's all of just them.
Starting point is 00:25:52 And one guy goes, green, green. No, wait, blue. I don't know. Canceled. They're attacking each other. And so they're stuck and there's no way to lead them out of it. An example is, you know, I've been watching She-Hulk. Have you guys watched
Starting point is 00:26:05 that great piece of American media? I saw the first episode. Saw some twerking. Oh, I liked the first episode. I liked the first episode. The second episode was okay. The third episode
Starting point is 00:26:13 was just one of the worst pieces of film trash I've ever watched. Because she's a good actor too. It's really bad. It's just like, they're ruining characters. But anyway, I digress. It's getting bad reviews. It's got like the it's they're making they're ruining characters but anyway i digress it's it's getting bad reviews it's got like a 2.2 or something like that in in out of
Starting point is 00:26:30 five and so what these cultists do is they say the only reason that's happening is because white supremacists are attacking it and then i'm just like it's really funny because i actually liked the first one i thought it was silly when she did that rant about feminism but i was was like, I even said on the show, I was like, it's all right. You know, C plus, it's kind of funny. Second episode, it's okay. You know, there's some bad stuff in it. And third episode is just really, really awful. And it's like, what do you say to someone who actually praised the first two episodes
Starting point is 00:26:55 the first two weeks and is now saying, okay, it's getting bad. Is that racism and white supremacy? The issue is when there's no leader, they don't know what to say. So they say bad thing. They say the only reason people don't like it is because they like bad thing. They like bad things. So they don't like show. And you're just like, maybe if you had charismatic thought leaders, they could explain what's
Starting point is 00:27:17 wrong with the show in a way that would help your side. But they don't. It's a mob. And, you know, some people call them the real fascists or whatever. And I'm like, it It's a mob. And, you know, some people call them the real fascists or whatever. And I'm like, it's just a mob. It's a group of people marching around with pitchforks figuratively on Twitter, looking for the next person to be angry at over their problems. Joe Biden is a part of that mob. He is not a leader. He doesn't know what he's doing. Somebody writes him a speech because they're a part of the mob and they're saying mindless, nonsensical garbage, but mobs are dangerous. Yeah. I mean, there's an aporetic
Starting point is 00:27:47 mindset to people like this because the prize, the ring, is control of the federal government. And without that, they can't impose their will on other people. Whereas I think conservatives and certainly libertarians don't really think that way we're not we're not ultimately political animals we want to live our lives we want to raise our families we want to live our lives the way we see fit and and I think that's sometimes a disadvantage when so much power is concentrated inC., apparatchiks win. And people that want freedom don't even understand what they're doing. So the language is foreign.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Like, what are you guys even saying? It's hard to even understand what they're trying to say. I think they're trying to get you to agree with them by using the only thing they know, which is fear. So they're saying like, well, only white supremacists criticize she hulk so therefore if you are going to criticize it know that you are equating yourself to that ideology and so in turn if you don't want to be outside the group you start to be like well
Starting point is 00:28:53 i kind of like the costumes and she hulk and even though you didn't actually like it you feel like you can't publicly talk about it otherwise you are equated to the worst of the worst it's like the show's bad because the writing is bad the jokes don't make sense the characters are being ruined like wong he's in a bunch of movies he's a great character and they made they turned him into a joke like he's disheveled he shows up late he's committing crimes i'm like what what is this what are they doing these characters but the cgi so bad no it's yes like but bad is an understatement it's worse than shrek people are like shrek level cgm like no man the way they're like walking and jerking and their mouths are moving like this when they talk i'm like it reminds me of sims you know yeah game like it
Starting point is 00:29:34 looks like early early animation of sims like in the worst way possible and this is like a multi-million dollar production right every you know what i think i think when you're a when you're a part of a mob, they may be able to, a mob can break into CNN, but they can't make the cameras operate. The cameras may already be turned on when the mob breaks into the CNN headquarters. So they can move the camera around and point it. And that goes out to the world. But eventually the camera stops working and they start scratching their heads. Then someone comes in and they're like, let's do this. And they press power. The camera starts working, but not working well. And they're like, okay, I got it.
Starting point is 00:30:08 That's what it feels like. Like a mob broke into the studio and they don't know how to work anything. And that's, and you know, I think merit is being shut out, but we're doing our own things. That's the danger of corporatocracy is that merit gets shut out and wealth dictates who gets to make the decisions instead of the most intelligent or the most resourceful which is what republicanism is so great for is that the merits of the human
Starting point is 00:30:34 are what lead the way. Not the bank account. I mean is it wealth or is it wokeism where who you hire is not based on the people that could actually make a good movie? Right.
Starting point is 00:30:47 I think that's what you're describing. Oh, man. Remember when Star Wars was completely destroyed and then it was completely destroyed and then it was completely destroyed and every step of the way they just completely ruined the IP? Like the prequels? It's like, okay, you know, whatever. They really ham-fisted it.
Starting point is 00:31:05 It's like, why is C-3PO and R2-D2 here? That's Anakin built? See, that's weird. But fine, whatever. We all had a good laugh. We enjoyed it. Then they started making a whole bunch of weird garbage. And then the sequel movies were just nonsensical garbage.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Rian Johnson, who's super woke, just totally ruined it. And he brags about how proud he is. But he legitimately ruined it. The rate, like, it's super woke, just totally ruined it. And he brags about how proud he is, but he legitimately ruined it. The rate, like it's... Dude, George Lucas sold out. He sold Star Wars to Disney. He sold out. That was his IP.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Freakish. Well, good for him. No, not good. He ruined it. He gave up and he ruined it. First of all, forcing his own direction on it ruined it. George, you ruined the first episode one. You ruined because you didn't let someone else take the reins for you you're a good story writer you're not a good director my
Starting point is 00:31:48 man that movie was terrible george r brinks was a laughing stock you had a horrible child actor to play the lead you had no villain you had darth maul who didn't even have lines in there like one line in the movie you're terrible terrible i thought you're talking about a new hope i was like what the new hope was good episode four five and six were freaking incredible man Lines in there, like one line in the movie. You're terrible. Terrible mistake. I thought you were talking about A New Hope. I was like, what? The New Hope was good. Episode four, five, and six were freaking incredible, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You had an amazing cast for that, too. It's confusing how they did these movies.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Yeah, I've never understood it. I've never really followed Star Wars. I feel like you're making a really hot take. I just wish I could understand it better. He wanted me to pretend like I didn't know Palpatine was the emperor so that I could like, the kids in the future will watch Star Wars from episode one forward. Is he nuts? This is crazy. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, the kids in the future will watch Star Wars from episode one forward. Is he nuts? This is crazy.
Starting point is 00:32:26 I don't know. Yeah, I mean, the moment, miscalculation. It was the same actor. Everybody knew it was him. Yeah, it was the point was, it was the... Do you like Star Wars? I checked out with Jar Jar Binks and I've had to go back and rewatch them all recently.
Starting point is 00:32:39 But I'm probably surely the oldest person here and I was a very young, maybe I was like 12 when the first one came out. And that was like iconic, definitive. This was part of our youth back then. And the first three, which I don't know which numbers they are, are fantastic. Four, five, and six. Four, five, and six. Just call them one, two, and three, whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Yeah. Prequels and the sequels. And then Jar Jar Binks, I'm like, I'm like i'm out yeah yeah how racist was that all this like cgi cartoons i would have rather had a dude in a costume like that's what they did in the original star wars dudes with costumes on playing music and that was fun first oh and then they re-edited the star wars to make han not seem so villainous like han's a dirty dude of course he shot first he shot grito so that he didn't get shot. This is an example actually.
Starting point is 00:33:26 You know, I remember when they changed Star Wars so that Greedo fired at Han first and it was a big deal and I'm like, this is like,
Starting point is 00:33:33 it's like proto-wokeism. When they started making content to fit their ideological narrative, going back and editing it because they were like, Han shouldn't be a scoundrel.
Starting point is 00:33:42 He should be a hero. Well, and they're hijacking stuff that isn't a soldier. You said this, you were 12 when this camerel. He should be a hero. Well, and they're hijacking stuff that isn't a seller. You said you were 12 when this came out. It's a huge part of your childhood. They're hijacking things
Starting point is 00:33:49 that they know people will want to watch to put their own messages in. Wasn't there like a Netflix show that they went back and edited the first episode? Was it Stranger Things,
Starting point is 00:33:57 I think? There's a bunch of them that have done that. That's crazy because, you know, I remember when video games used to be released, the video game that came out was the video game you got.
Starting point is 00:34:06 And when there were bugs, well, you know, too bad. And sometimes they go, it's not a bug, it's a feature. Like, the idea in video games, a combo in a fighting game, right? In Street Fighter, it was actually a bug. That you could string together a bunch of moves, creating a no-time gap between when you attack and your opponent's ability to
Starting point is 00:34:22 defend. And they were like, eh, it's a feature. They couldn't do anything about it. Nowadays, when a game is released, they patch it. Now they're patching TV shows. This is nightmarish. Like time is gone. Like history, memory won't matter because you're going to go to your friend and be like, hey, to just watch that new show called, you know, about Ian, you know, Ian and Matt's adventure into, you know, the never ending tale or whatever. And you're going to go like, oh yeah, you just watch that new show about Ian and Matt's adventure into the never-ending tale or whatever? And you're going to go like, oh, yeah, it was really awesome when Ian pulled out the lightsaber.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Lightsaber? What are you talking about? No, he had a Excalibur. What? No, he draws a lightsaber. Dude, I just watched it. Bro, I watched it when it came out. That's what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:34:59 They're working on augmented reality where depending on who you are, you're going to see a different image on the screen. So like for kids, when they watch it they'll see coca-cola but when an adult watches it they'll see beer a bud light i was just watching a video on this it's crazy or when the adult's watching it they'll see you know a big apple being like make sure you eat healthy kids and then the kids are gonna be watching it it's gonna be a giant tiger throwing gummy snacks and i'm being like eat candy it's it's delicious or be a giant tiger throwing gummy snacks and I'm being like, eat candy. It's delicious. Or something. The parents are going to think the kids are getting a good message,
Starting point is 00:35:27 not realizing it. That's disturbing. Cause part of what bound us together, you might've mentioned this earlier is, is our shared. I don't know if you said this exactly, but our shared appreciation or shared understanding of what art was like, I don't know if you actually said this sort of as you,
Starting point is 00:35:40 Tim, but like we would all sit around. It was Fox news gave us the, this is what's up tonight. And everyone would see it. Everyone could agree. That's what I saw for better or worse, because we were led astray in many ways. And but now we're going to even be like, that's what I saw.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Well, that's what I saw. Did we even see the same show? I don't know. And I don't know how to verify it. How crazy is going to be if, you know, we no longer have TVs. We just have like viewing portals that are green screens and you put on your ar goggles and then you're watching the news and you get different news at the same time like i mean we saw this with the sandlin testimony the gordon sandlin testimony
Starting point is 00:36:16 um there was a gym i think it's a gym someone posted this photo cbs and fox next to each other and on fox it says sandlin confirms no quid pro quo, it says Sondland confirms no quid pro quo. And CBS has Sondland confirms yes, quid pro quo. It's like you literally have two different truths that are coming out. And it's like another good example has just happened. Taiwan shot down a Chinese drone. It's reported by, you know, a bunch of outlets that it was a Chinese drone. Why? Because it came from China. But then you get CNN saying unidentified drone and Reuters saying suspected Chinese drone. And now what happens is someone might go, did you hear that they shot down a Chinese drone? I'll go, no, it wasn't identified.
Starting point is 00:36:52 What are you talking about? The news said it was literally, this is insane. I don't know how we function this way. Well, I'm going to white pill you guys again because I really feel like back in the day, like I'm the old guy again. I'm going to be old guy all night, but I'm old enough to remember when Walter Cronkite would tell me as a kid, that's the way it is. And you got 20 minutes of spoon-fed news
Starting point is 00:37:14 and somebody curated that and all three networks said the same thing. And that was our only access to information. And now you have these infinite sources and all sorts of contradictions. These contradictions of fact prove to us that a lot of what we used to think of as objective news is at best opinion and perhaps just blatant false propaganda. But we have the ability now to sort of fact check the fact checkers. And I think that maybe puts more responsibility on us to figure things out for ourselves.
Starting point is 00:37:49 And yes, all sorts of people are going to fall for the BS. But I feel more comfortable in this crazy decentralized world than I ever did when someone was dictating to me what to think. It's all broken, man. I feel like what we're comfort, but more hope. What we're seeing now with the media and the lies plays perfectly into the postmodernist goals. Sure. The fact that you have Fox and CBS saying the exact opposite things, it is perfect for
Starting point is 00:38:20 them that we, who will try and fact check and then present to you the best to the best of our abilities the facts it they like that we come out and say they're lying to you and at the same time they point back and say they're lying to you because it confuses people and what good for numbers and yet that's sort of how life works right you think about think about your everyday life and you're trying to figure out how to move forward in a radically uncertain world. It's a world we live in. We live in real time and we don't know what's going to happen tomorrow. We have some sort of theory about what happened yesterday. And somehow we figure that stuff out. So I think it's important not just to take the snapshot of like, that guy says this and this guy says the opposite and I don't know what to think, there's a process by which we're going to figure this stuff out.
Starting point is 00:39:09 But again, we have to own that instead of just falling into the trap of believing one tribe and not the other. I want to pull this story from the New York Post. White House, big tech colluded to censor misinformation. Lawsuit. Good. Yeah, New York Post, you can just show the emails that came out showing that they literally did it. This is crazy stuff. Who's filing the lawsuit? A bunch of people.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I think it's Gateway Pundits involved. The state of Missouri is involved. I think that's the lawsuit where this is coming from. I just had Jen and Eunice on my show, and it hasn't even come out yet, but she, I'm going to look up her association because she is a co-plaintiff with two attorneys generals on this. And this discovery is more like we knew this was happening because the white house was actually saying it from the podium and Biden was saying Facebook is literally killing people. So this is not actually news, except they now have documentation that there was a
Starting point is 00:40:05 ongoing coordination process where the government was dictating to tech companies what they were allowed to say and what they were they were demanded to take off. And it's now time to sue Facebook into oblivion. Anyone. So you need to look at the emails, look at the stories. Anytime Joe Biden has referenced COVID policies, I think anybody who tried sharing anything related to that should join a class action lawsuit against Facebook and the US government for collusion, violation of First Amendment rights, because the government was actively suppressing that information with the assistance of Facebook. And you are now, you should now all have standing.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Large class action. That would be fantastic. I'd be involved in that. I remember posting in 2020 about some COVID stuff, about some documents. And after that, totally blackballed, like blacklisted. Yeah. And there's no notice that it happened. I just started getting three likes per post after that. And now I'm sure my page is in some kind of blacklist. I mean, YouTube took down like what, half a million, probably more than that videos that had to do with COVID stuff, and then changed their policy and didn't put the videos back up. Like, there is an obvious censorship element to this
Starting point is 00:41:13 that they are not willing to answer for. Okay, so here's, I just want to fill in the blank there. Jen and Eunice, who's with the New Civil Liberties Alliance, and they are representing Jay Bhattacharya, one of the signers of the Great Barrington Declaration, Martin Kulldorff, a couple other guys, and they have joined the Louisiana, Missouri Attorneys General on this. And I think it goes to the Supreme Court.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Louisiana? Yeah. Oh, wow. I thought it was Missouri. Is it Missouri? Two, Missouri and Louisiana. Wow. Yep.
Starting point is 00:41:48 This is going to be big. I think it's a big deal. And God help us, we need to save the First Amendment. I still think that matters. I agree. Is that crazy? I don't know. No, we need to evolve the First Amendment because we're creating a global government right now.
Starting point is 00:42:04 And I think free software code is the future of free speech. If you can see what the code is doing, then that's like your sense of personal freedom in the environment. If you go to the metaverse and you can't see what the code is doing around you, it could be telling you lies and you wouldn't know it. Well, so could a human. It's okay for humans to lie. But for a software code, for an environment to lie to you i think is when it's gone too far what does that mean like if there's blatant lie propaganda like if there's signs around you that are telling you something happened when it didn't yeah that's the
Starting point is 00:42:35 metaverse i'm talking about when you're in vr when you're in but like that's an image posted by a person what's the difference is i guess between what and what like an image posted by a person and a person saying the words if someone creates an environment that they post false advertising or they post you know false statement in political ads it's created by a person even if it is a sign that's physically appearing yeah like if i if i saw a sign that said like turn right to the next burger king but to you the sign said turn left to the next Burger King, but to you, the sign said, turn left to the next Burger King, but neither of us know that we're getting fed different information. That's like a violation of my first amendment.
Starting point is 00:43:09 That's a violation of a human right, in my opinion. People need to know if they're being led towards something. But you said it's okay if people, if humans lie. Like, why is that so? Technically, you could lie to me. If you have an algorithm that's decided you should go to Wendy's and you should go to Burger King
Starting point is 00:43:24 and it's automatically doing it, yeah, we should know that machines are doing that to us. When people don't realize, you know, Facebook experimented on people. Do you guys know this? Yeah. They made people depressed on purpose to see what would happen. That's psychotic. We should have a right guarantee that they can't do that.
Starting point is 00:43:43 There should be, I mean, I think we should abolish algorithmic feeds. It should be chronological and your followers. So if you follow something, you get shown it. It shouldn't be like we've decided what's right for you. Because Facebook actually started showing people content that would depress them to see if it would work. And it did. They started then producing depressing content.
Starting point is 00:44:03 It's creepy stuff. It's like 2014. I think they were doing that. are they doing now oh yeah exactly mark zuckerberg he's a psycho he's i think he's in a big time into psychology that's a big part of what this is for him as a psychology experiment i mean he said that pretty openly that he loves experimenting on the human psychology i don't want to put words in your mouth mark but you've alluded to that fact i think he was in college for psychology at the time that he was building Facebook. Yeah, I agree, man. It's a new world and we got to take it by the horns. If we don't, it's going to gore us. Do you guys think that technology, this kind of social media technology that is doing all this stuff, is this generally been a good thing or is this what's creating all of this chaos?
Starting point is 00:44:46 It's the chaos. It's neutral, but people are using it to create massive chaos. Under the guise of American law, like property, IP law. You can't just own a world, you know? Technology is neutral, but it's basically like, you know, crystal meth.
Starting point is 00:45:03 If you start mass producing it and giving it out to people, and it's like, imagine if companies came out, they started giving out free crystal meth to everybody. In order to have a job, you had to have it. It's like, you're going to come and work, but you're on meth, right? And, you know, that would be insane. We can see the problem with that drug addiction. But what social media is, is exactly that. So when you have a group of people that don't really have the cognitive faculties to lead, and I'm not trying to be disrespectful to everybody, but some people are really dumb and some people you can be disrespectful to if they know they're manipulating. But you have people who are just blindly marching in lockstep
Starting point is 00:45:39 with this gutter garbage, algorithmically fed nonsense. You have to have it. They're creating a world of chaos and nonsense. And that's what the modern left is. I don't view it as a political movement, sort of. You know, I've talked about this. It's a chaotic, destructive force. It's like a fire. That's all it is. It's like fire. You have the left and the right, the traditional left and right in this country. And that's why, as I mentioned the other day, if I sat down with Ben Shapiro, we're going to disagree on your traditional left and right disagreements. And then we're going to shake hands and be like, oh, America's great. But then you have this left, this quote unquote left, which is just a fire that burns. There's no reasoning with it. You could go up to it and
Starting point is 00:46:18 you can say, here's a video of Joe Biden admitting to a quid pro quo, and they'll smack it out of your hand and be like, fascist, fascist, fascist and just start screaming because it's fire. There's no rhyme or reason. A leaderless mob blindly marching in lockstep on social media and that's what you end up with. But this is nothing new. The entirety of human history has
Starting point is 00:46:37 crazy mobs doing the most inhumane things. Mass murder stuff. But it's amplified. And it's addictive. Like, we've always had crazy people, but we haven't always had systems that incentivize you to post inflammatory things.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Instagram, right? Young girls are getting depressed because they're not getting enough Instagram likes. Now they're doing Photoshop and filters on their apps. Now women are getting plastic surgery to look like the filters. Like, this is derangement. There's a family that's suing Instagram because their daughter started using it at a young age, like 13 or something, and developed really serious anorexia and anxiety.
Starting point is 00:47:15 And they believe that it's directly correlated to her addiction to social media. Well, these CEOs don't give their kids phones. Everybody else does. And it's like the dude selling the drugs knows not to let their kids have it, but the families are told to do it. It's the right thing.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Yeah, it's like an addictive printing press fire drug. We can go back to Web 2.0, get rid of all these weird algorithmic manipulations, and just go back to reverse chronological. That'd be fantastic. If you follow them, you follow them.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Otherwise, the posts just come in in reverse chronological order. I hear the web is headed towards 3.0 and it's freaking out humanists. Well, we're in 3.0. 3.0 is like the perma web where everything is on our weave or some other permanent state where it's always there. You're talking about 4.0. Geez, I don't even know what to call this stuff anymore. Web 1.0 was like CompuServe and AOL chat rooms, really basic stuff, garbage websites.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Web 2.0 was when we got social media websites, accounts were popping up, eBay and things like that. You could then do transactions online through websites. And then Web 3.0 was the app network. Now you're online through an app that you can't navigate away from except the app itself. And then the app can shut you off. Things like that you can't navigate away from except the app itself. And then the app can shut you off. Things like that. That's why they're afraid of Web 3.0. When it first started, you had crazy websites and IPs and you'd see a gif of Macho Man doing
Starting point is 00:48:33 the peanut butter jelly dance or whatever and hamster dance and things like that. Then we got Web 2.0, which was like YouTube and MySpace, but they're still desktop websites. Now you have Web 3.0 where you don't actually type in it anymore. You have just apps, and you press it, and you're logged in automatically, and you interact with them, and they're heavily regulated. The internet used to be fun. It was the Wild West. Web 3.0 is awful. It's
Starting point is 00:48:56 robotic. It's mundane. And then Web 4.0, I don't know what they're expecting that to be like. It's the matrix. We're going to go straight to the... Yeah. Neuralink.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Okay. What about blockchain as the alternative to this? And there's some experiments. Well, what does that mean? It means that we could go back to the fun internet. And we could go back to the unregulated. You could just make it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:24 There's no appetite for it. People aren't doing it. There's nothing stopping you from bringing back an AOL server with Messenger and chat rooms. People don't do it. Well, if we look at what the FBI has been doing, there are things that can try and stop that from happening, unfortunately. They stopped Facebook from letting things happen on their website.
Starting point is 00:49:43 So before, there wasn't a lot of government overreach that we knew about in the late 90s, 96, 97, when people were typing on AOL chat rooms, logs weren't being stored. I don't know if they still have those AOL chat logs from 30, 20 years ago, if they want them. But the technocratic state's been in high alert for the last 20 years and really building up a way to spy, you know, the Prism network where they're allowed, I think legally even now, to spy. X-key score. Yeah, it's not right. We publish all of our stuff on Odyssey in the anticipation of YouTube
Starting point is 00:50:13 finally deciding that our stuff isn't allowed anymore. And we're not going to be first. We're not Alex Jones. We tell beautiful stories, and I don't expect to be the first to get banned from anything. What they want to do is they want to turn the internet back into TV. They want to— Yeah, that's exactly what they want to do.
Starting point is 00:50:31 What the big tech guys in the government have been trying to do is when there was Web 1.0, subcultures started flourishing. With Web 2.0, they started solidifying and building economics around themselves. Then they realized, hey, wait a minute. These people actually got Trump elected. They were memeing him into power by making jokes and people were sharing them. It was meme magic. And they said, we have to stop that. So now the goal is approved narratives only on all of these big platforms.
Starting point is 00:50:59 And that's it. They started banning conspiracies and all the fun content. Man, it was a good day, you know, back in what, like 2010? I'm super concerned. When you could watch flat earth videos and they'd be on the front page of YouTube and you'd be like, oh, that's so dumb and silly. And now it's like, you go to the front page and you got Mr. Beast and you got CNN. But this is the whack-a-mole that I'm talking about. It's like every time people get new tools to be more liberated and think for themselves,
Starting point is 00:51:27 they come in with a new scheme, more aggressive, more authoritarian every time they do it to try to shut it down. And then something else emerges. And I think that there is a technological solution because I don't want to live in a matrix. And I don't think most people do. What concerns me about the whack-a-mole thing, because you're right, when people are whacked down, the consciousness will rise up somewhere else,
Starting point is 00:51:48 and it'll keep happening, and they keep trying to stop it. But if you don't know you're being whacked, if you think everything's going out normal, but it's being tweaked somewhere between you and the listener because of secret algorithms, then there might not be an uprising because you don't even know you're being manipulated. That's what I'm concerned with and I want to avoid. Well, you can see trends. Like young people make fun of people that are on Facebook now. That's what grandpa does. And they've migrated and they're curating their own content. They're watching shows like this.
Starting point is 00:52:17 They're binge watching things on Netflix. And they're all on YouTube. None of these platforms are completely free, but they're more free than the sort of manipulation on Facebook. I remember when we started Free the People, we thought that young people had short attention spans. But it turns out that Facebook manipulates you into not paying attention for very long. So what happened? People that didn't like that, they migrated to YouTube and other places. I think that, I mean, I believe in the wisdom of crowds. I believe that people figure this stuff out. And I think that the
Starting point is 00:52:52 revolution is going to be those people choosing for themselves. I think the strange thing about the internet is that it was so disruptive. And by regulating the internet, you can really regulate basically every part of human life. I've never had a job that didn't in some way regulating the internet you can really regulate basically every part of human life i've never had a job that didn't in some way involve the internet which is sort of crazy there are generations that that was not true for even people who worked in congress who wrote bills like they you know before the rise of the internet there were other ways of operating and now i can't imagine life without it not just that i mean even if you were at a fast food restaurant these days you have apps to order food so you're getting the internet coming in to schedule what shift you're working i mean like everything is done through the internet so if you
Starting point is 00:53:32 mean that like if you have to comply by the internet aka the government's rules then every part of your life has to comply yep so we had uh robert davia on the other night he was telling us a really interesting story in the after show about uh think he told us in the main show, like, maybe it was the after show, how he ended up getting into no, I think it was the after show. How he got into acting. And he said that you'd have to call a number on a pay phone that would have your messages
Starting point is 00:53:56 stored for you. So it's like he wakes in the morning, he runs down to a pay phone, he puts the coins in, and then he dials the number, and he's like, he gives his information, and then it reads him his messages, and he finds out he gets he gets the part like that was crazy days yeah i remember when i was a kid you know i'm 36 you go to your friend's house knock on the door he's not here do you know where he went i don't guess i'm not gonna see him today that was life man internet before internet banking i know you remember do you got did you ever have the bro
Starting point is 00:54:22 before debit cards yeah before debit cards you got a check you'd have the non-internet banking? Bro, before debit cards. Yeah, before debit cards, you got a check. You'd go to Drug Mart and you'd be like, here's a check for $17. It would take three days to clear. Then you'd have to go to the bank and talk to the cashier, write her a check, and then she would give you cash. Then internet banking appeared, and it's so convenient. I can click a couple buttons and you get the money. It's amazing. How could I ever want to turn back from that except that now they have the power to click a button and turn it all off.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Maybe they kind of did before, but not nearly as much. Or say you can't send money to certain people. Or you can't use this service because we don't believe in your ideology. Have y'all watched Catch Me If You Can? Yeah. What was that guy's name? The con man? What was his name?
Starting point is 00:55:01 You don't remember his name? The real name? Yeah. Not Leo? Well, no. Leo was the actor, but his character was his name. i'm sure people in the chat will give us his name but you look at how easy it was to con people back then like he made fake checks like it actually wasn't that difficult for him to do yeah he just lied and they would do it reminds me of that movie
Starting point is 00:55:18 with ricky gervais the invention of lying you've ever seen that one where he goes into the bank and he's like he needs money and then all of a sudden like nobody can lie in this world and then all of a sudden his brain just snaps and he goes i have 800 and she goes it doesn't say that we must have made a mistake here you go and then she gives him the money that's what it felt like watching catch me if you can oh the character is frank abagnale jr frank abagnale jr yeah and he was like he took uh in the movie what they show is it's probably apocryphal it's probably movie, but he bought little toys with the Pan Am logo and then he like soaked them and then peeled the sticker off and put it on the check to make it look official. Man, these days, everything's, you know, so much more secure. But I will say, I think it's funny that we're all old people talking about, you know, when I was a kid, we had phones on the wall. But the reality is, the real purpose of this is, in walking away from landlines,
Starting point is 00:56:09 the more we move into this digital space, the less control we have. To the point where this is the craziest thing. You don't even own your shows anymore. You don't own, it's like you will own nothing and you will be happy. I hope everybody listening realizes that the agenda of the World Economic Forum has been underway for a very, very long time. It's not new. How many songs do you own? You don't.
Starting point is 00:56:32 You don't even own your phone. The software on it is licensed to you. And at any moment, Apple or Google can brick your phone. They can shut it off like that if they want to. I remember 10 years ago, Apple filed a patent to create geofencing, that if your phone went into a certain area that they deemed to be fenced off, your camera would not turn on. That's the world we're in. Or you can buy a camera and walk around with it. They can't control it, a Polaroid or something like that. I saw a funny tweet where some guy said, you know, the future is inconvenient. I was flying on a plane and my book ran out of batteries.
Starting point is 00:57:08 It's like, yeah, that's the future, you know, for convenience. And we end up losing control. One of those jarring things is when I used to have all these CDs. I have like 500, 400 CDs or something. I'd move around from place to place every year and carry this big giant Tupperware tub of CDs. And then all of a sudden it was digitized. And people didn't own their music anymore. And I'm like, I still haven't done it. I won't do it. I still have my CDs. They're in my parents' house right now. I have them all backed up on multiple hard drives because that's music I bought, music I own,
Starting point is 00:57:37 as far as I'm concerned. I was never told that I didn't own the CD and everything on it when I bought it. So I own that. Here's the best part. This happened to a lot of people. They got banned from Facebook. So what? People get banned from Facebook, right? The only problem is they were using Facebook login. Now, all of a sudden, they can't log into any of the other apps they had synced with.
Starting point is 00:57:56 And some of them are financial. Now, that's crazy. Well, I've known people who use Facebook personally and upload pictures of whatever, their kids, their life's going on. And when Facebook blocks them and deletes their account, they lose all of that. So people, I've known people to lose videos of like their kid's first step because they put it on Facebook so grandma in a different state could see it. And it's gone and Facebook won't give it to you. When I'm on Pop Culture Crisis, we talk about how important it is to go to flea markets and
Starting point is 00:58:24 tag sales and collect VHSs because you won't be able to edit out the content and then you'll always have it. Unfortunately, VHSs are not like super stable. I think CDs probably hold up against weather and heat and stuff like that a little bit better. But there is, I think, an interesting crossroads where people are going to have to say, like, if it's really important to me, i should actually get a physical copy that cannot be virtually deleted trump should have banned tiktok should have absolutely banned that's how i agree kind of agree with you i don't know if banning is the way yep how would that have worked out if he had that i think he it was temporarily like restricted wasn't it it was i think under some conditions i mean there are a lot of reports coming out right now and i don't want to be too alarmist about it,
Starting point is 00:59:05 but in different states, they're getting back their learning standards. From last year, they evaluated kids, and so many kids are behind intentional ventures. And I think a lot of it is because lockdowns were bad, but also we didn't intervene on the parts of the internet that we should have. And I don't actually like intervention, so it's hard for me to say that. The TikTok thing is that China is controlling what our kids are seeing and they're banning shows like us.
Starting point is 00:59:30 We got banned for no reason. They just nuked us off the platform. And it's obvious. They want kids to see their moral ideology so they'll grow up and they'll not agree with this. That's their plan. They want your kids. So conservatives have to win on the education front and on that front.
Starting point is 00:59:47 And Trump banning it would have been a seriously bad day for the woke cultists. And from what I've understood and read about the algorithm for TikTok, they actually change the algorithm based on what country they're in. So kids in China are not served the same content that TikTok users who are under the age of 15 in America are. You know, you might get more engineering content served to you if you're a teenager in China than you would in America. Right. In America, it's woke garbage. In China, they don't allow it. So, you know, someone chatted that kids aren't watching YouTube, they're watching TikTok. Actually, there were several studies and some polls done and found
Starting point is 01:00:21 that YouTube is the most popular video platform for all ages. But TikTok is very, very prominent among kids. So if they're at school, they're probably on, you know. And there's an ecosystem, right? So if you have a creator who's popular on TikTok, they probably also have a YouTube channel and an Instagram. And you're floating between sort of all parts of that. But they're not going on YouTube until they get home. They're on TikTok when they're on their phone. But TikTok is creepy.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Chinese-controlled data being sent to them there's a new style of entertainment on tick tock where it's like they'll say a thing and then there's a cut and then they'll say another thing and then there's a cut and then they'll say a third thing and then there's a cut and it's like those disjointed three second statements edited all together as if it's to be one sentence as opposed to like just a 10 or a 30-second convert statement oh bro here's the here's the best thing so uh some youtubers figured out that typos result in higher engagement because when you have a typo in your title people click it and then correct you so they started intentionally putting typos in the headlines children then started spelling the words wrong because on YouTube they were spelled wrong and that's
Starting point is 01:01:26 what they were exposed to. Isn't that crazy? It's anything to drive viewers and to keep them there, right? That's why TikTok shows you a video and you immediately scroll. In some ways, that's why YouTube adopted shorts, I think, because they want you to be able to move quickly through a lot of content.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Let's talk about the apocalypse. We didn't talk about this story before. We have it here. Would you take out a loan to buy this week's groceries? Americans are increasingly turning to buy now, pay later services for food and other everyday essentials. And there are signs that the practice is putting some in deep debt. So, I just
Starting point is 01:02:00 want to say, if you don't have emergency food supplies, I think you're probably in a bad spot and um i know not everybody can buy them because you know we we normally shout out safe and ready meals.com and it's like two or three hundred bucks for a for a month supply now it used to be like a hundred and something inflations through the roof we ordered uh we ordered some food we had some takeout, got delivered. And it was like three people eating.
Starting point is 01:02:27 And it was like almost 100 bucks. And it's like a local diner. And we were just like, what did we get? Like, how did, Bidenflation. People really just are frogs in a pot boiling as all this stuff happens. I just want to stress, when MSNBC says we're in a civil war, the president comes out and says half the country are extreme threats. And people are taking out loans to buy food.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Please pay attention to what's going on because this is extreme. Extreme. And I'm going to say this too. I've actually been looking at properties in other countries already. No problem saying that. Notably, I will say El Salvador sounds really awesome with the Bitcoin stuff they're doing. So I've been looking at El Salvador for a while, but I want to stay in the United States and make sure we can do what we can to preserve our culture and preserve this country. In the event that, let's just say a catastrophic defeat to the point of executions or something,
Starting point is 01:03:22 then I'm like, okay, I'm going to get away from this place. But I also want to point out, as I've mentioned before, there are points throughout history where we've seen people flee countries before it got to the point where there were mass executions. And there are many countries where this has happened, where there are people have been genocided in various ways. So seeing all of this, I'm not saying that anytime soon, anything like that's going to happen. I'm saying that I'm going to buy a van and go live down by the river and get ready to bug out because it's getting insane. People taking out loans to buy groceries? You know, you have to realize that means something really bad is about to break, right? I took out loans in 2003 to buy groceries after college for a couple years.
Starting point is 01:04:01 That was a rough, rough point in my life. But I was making $12 an hour. It was right after 9-11. Tough to get a job. 12 bucks an hour was good enough for me, but I still had to take out a couple hundred bucks a month for groceries. And food benefits exist, but this is, Americans are increasingly turning into, to, to taking out loans to buy groceries. Did you guys see the Chengdu riots? I don't know if you call them riots, but the lockdown they're locking up. Oh yeah. 20 million people. People are just storming in and grabbing whatever they can to eat. There's videos of it.
Starting point is 01:04:27 People are like grabbing groceries and pouring giant amounts of rice. This is a big issue in China with these lockdowns. And when you run out of food in China, particularly if you're of a certain age, you remember Mao's great experiment in socialism, the great leap forward when millions of people starve to death. So not having food in China is the ultimate insult, the ultimate moment when you freak out and say, I'm going to do whatever it takes. I might die in the process of disobeying my government, but I have to have food because they remember what it was like to slowly starve to death. But on the inflation thing, this is unfortunately a very predictable result of spending six, seven, eight trillion. I can't keep track anymore how much money we spent that
Starting point is 01:05:18 we didn't have. Oh, not just that. The money supply was expanded by what, 16 trillion? Yeah, it's all financed. They basically printed the money and they have very more exotic ways than actually running a printing press. But this is all fake money. And it's the ultimate transfer from working people, people that have money in their wallets, money in their savings accounts, people that have to buy groceries. They pay they pay while rich people the the the connected the political insiders and not just politicians but but when you when you print all this money there's injection points in the economy and who are those the banksters yeah so that you have this huge wealth transfer from the poor to the rich and this is part of Bidenomics.
Starting point is 01:06:11 And one of the reasons why he did that speech out of desperation is that people are taking out loans to buy their groceries. Can we just, I love pulling up the M one money stock here. Can I just show you guys something isn't right. Huh? Cause bam, that's when the $12 trillion increase because savings were converted to checking accounts, basically. But look what that-
Starting point is 01:06:28 They did that to mask what was coming right after that influx of savings is that gigantic angle. Oh, it's right here? Increase. Yes. That went from like- I mean, that's like a, what, a three times? It probably went from like a 20% growth gain- No, that's like five times.
Starting point is 01:06:43 To like a 78% gain. It's like the money supply increased by 500%. This is what Thomas Massey called the cheese in the trap when they started giving out those relatively modest checks. Like every time we passed another trillion dollar bill, just a small fraction of it actually went to people. But we're now paying for that. And all of those people that got those checks are getting
Starting point is 01:07:06 utterly screwed by that spike right there. Have you guys been paying attention to like food costs and stuff like that? Oh, it's insane. No, it's been getting crazier and crazier. I remember it was a year ago and I was like, I went to the grocery store and it was $600 and I was shocked. It's like, oh, no, it's $800. Pork is through the roof. Gotta get that bacon. Man, it's getting more and more expensive. But is through the roof gotta get that bacon man it's getting more and more expensive but we have our own chickens so you know they they bop about do their chicken business and then lay eggs and we eat them so i don't got to worry about the cost of eggs that's great i think the problem with leaving the u.s is that as the people who fled
Starting point is 01:07:38 cuba i think during trump's tenure got up on on stage and were able to say there's nowhere else to go and el El Salvador sounds great. And Portugal sounds good to me. I've been looking at Portugal. It turns out a lot of Californians have been moving there. So there's no hope there. This is really the last place to go. I don't know if Brazil's all right.
Starting point is 01:07:54 But, you know, the issue is that if the U.S. does falter, that's the reserve currency. It's going to be a wild ride. So you got to wonder what happens. Like, actually,. Actually, Matt, what are your thoughts? What happens, let's say the US just erupts. Biden comes out tomorrow and he's like, I think it's time to put an end to this manga. And he starts arresting every Trump supporter and the Gestapo is kicking doors. And then all of a sudden the economy collapses. The US dollar is kicked up by other countries. What happens? Well, you're thinking about escaping to Latin America.
Starting point is 01:08:26 The most stable economies in Latin America are dollarized. So they've linked their currency. Bitcoin in El Salvador. Bitcoin. So I'm going to go back to blockchain as the only solution to all of our problems. Because I really think it is. And there's a reason why they're going after Odyssey. They're going after Bitcoin. They're going after
Starting point is 01:08:46 Bitcoin. They're going after blockchain. They hate this stuff because of the very definition it's not controlled. The alternative to this economic collapse is going to be this technology that makes us independent of government. It's easier said than done. But what happens if the dollar is no longer the reserve currency? Let's say tomorrow, they're just like, dollar's done. People that hold dollars are screwed. So the Central and South American countries that are dollarized are all just belly up? Yeah, well, they eventually will do what they did in Venezuela, where the currency is completely worthless. And, you know, every, every couple of weeks they pass a massive increase in the minimum wage, but it doesn't mean anything because their money's not worth anything. Hyperinflation is the logical result of this kind
Starting point is 01:09:40 of stuff. The reason it hasn't happened in the United States is that we are tremendously wealthy. And we have things that no Latin American country has in terms of physical assets and wealth and the resilience of our infrastructure. I'm actually surprised that we haven't gotten that point already. And you realize that for all of the darkness and the things that the government has tried to do
Starting point is 01:10:05 to stop the economy, there's a lot of entrepreneurship in our country. There's a lot of innovation. There's a lot of people that work their butts off to make sure that there still is food on the grocery store shelves. I thought it would be worse. Yeah, it's supposed to get really bad
Starting point is 01:10:22 in the next few months, but it's supposed to get really bad a year from now or so. So they're saying the fall harvest is going to be brutal, but then next year is where it really gets scary. Yeah, there's a cascading effect on all this stuff because you have the green agenda, you have energy shortages, you have all of the farmers and truckers and the whole distribution chain. Think about the millions of people between you and your next meal that you don't know. You don't know anything about these guys. They have all been affected by what we've done over the last two
Starting point is 01:10:58 years. And the question is, did we break the supply chain or is it resilient and and i've been impressed by the resiliency of it but um one piece in that infinitely complex puzzle shuts things down and and maybe it's energy the most obvious thing but it could be anything and we don't even understand what it is that sounded sad i thought you were white pilling us i thought that was you were like the optimistic i'm gonna white pill you guys well i i was though because like i was 20 minutes ago you can go you can go read the stuff that i was writing in 2020 about the supply chain and predicting like these stupid idiots don't understand how beautiful and complex this thing is. And if you decide that that guy can't go to work, but that guy has to go to work, well, that guy that has to go to work is
Starting point is 01:11:51 dependent on the other guys that aren't allowed to go to work. I expected this stuff to hit in 2020, 2021. There's obviously an impact now. I think that people could easily fix these problems if the government stopped helping. I think the government is helping their ideology. I think the climate change zealots are like, it's time to push people down. I think, look, you only need to
Starting point is 01:12:18 listen to the words they say. Bill Gates thinks there's too many people. What do you do when there's too many deer in an area? You call the deer. So why should I assume Bill Gates thinks there's too many people. What do you do when there's too many deer in an area? You call the deer. Hey. Call the herd. So why should I assume that when these powerful global elites are coming out saying we're overpopulated, the planet's going to implode in five, ten years, and there needs to be less people?
Starting point is 01:12:39 At that point, it's more conspiratorial, in my opinion, to assume they don't want people to die. I'm not saying Bill Gates is going around trying to kill people or anything like that. I'm saying they probably wish it was happening at the very least. If you're going to replace my steak with bugs, they might succeed. Did you hear this story
Starting point is 01:12:58 about the thermostats where people couldn't change their thermostats or they were locked out? Colorado. And they were like, you opted into this program. It's your fault. Because what will happen is you're going to get your gas turned on or your heating turned on. And they're going to say, do you want to sign up for our energy saver program? It'll save you $100 a year. And they'll go, what do I got to do?
Starting point is 01:13:14 Nothing. We just click check the box and then $100 off. And they go, cool, sure. They don't read it. They have no idea. Then it's 90 degrees outside. And they're like, why can't I change the temperature? And they're like, you agreed to this, Dave. It's what you wanted. It's like, no, I didn't. No one told
Starting point is 01:13:27 me. So that's the future, man. You're going to live in a pod. You're going to eat the bugs. That's the gag. You know, I was talking about, I did this bit on Twitter where I said, it's 99 degrees in your house. So you go to your thermostat, but you find you're locked out and it says, you know, emergency, energy emergency governor's orders. So you decide to go take a drive and open the windows. You go to your electric car, and it says minimal charge, driving not available, governor's orders. And you think, ugh. So you figure, I'm going to go walk down to the park. And as you're walking down, there's a guy standing at a checkpoint, and he says,
Starting point is 01:14:00 sir, you need your QR card if you're going to come through this checkpoint. And you're like, but my phone's dead because I couldn't charge my phone. Sir, you don't have a QR card. You can't come through. And then you're like, look, man, I just want to go to the park. And then he pulls out a cattle prod. And that's where the electricity went. I feel like that's China today.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Right? It is. I know. I'm not describing it. Yeah, that's where we'll be soon, just like China. And then so then after you get tased, you get up, you walk back to your house, sit sit next to your pod home reach in and grab a bag of crickets to munch on and wait for the temperature to drop what do you think is the resistant like way around that i don't know farm chickens yeah i don't i don't chickens eat crickets chickens you eat chickens you know what
Starting point is 01:14:41 i mean that's what i'm talking about it's all about chickens that's true everything goes back to chickens you Well, goats. You know, goats are pretty cool. Goats are good people. They're good to eat too, yeah. Cows are all right. Cows are chill. And cows, it's only a couple years so you can eat the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:14:53 You know what I mean? So you just gotta keep making more of them. They eat grass. There's a lot of grass. Grass is everywhere, you know? In fact, we got so much grass, we gotta pay a guy to take it from us. Like, when you have big acreage,
Starting point is 01:15:02 the farmers come and just take it all for you. They bail it all up and they're like, it's a couple hundred bucks for us. We need it. Cats eat it. And they just take it and, you know, how about we just get some goats? And then the goats eat the grass and the goats give us more goats and we eat the goats. There you go. Or the chickens.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Yeah. Goats also give you milk, which I remember milking when I was growing up. I wanted to say they've been pushing this energy plan in Maryland for a while now, for over a year. And I think that people are going for it because it's going to save them money. And times are so hard. They're literally taking out loans so they can get groceries. It makes perfect sense to me.
Starting point is 01:15:31 You guys ever see that bit? I can't remember who did it, where he's like a get-rich-quick scheme. And he's like, you put seeds in the dirt, put some water on it, and the food just grows right out of the ground. You can sell it. You sell it to people to give you money for it. It just comes right out of the ground. You can sell it. You sell it to people to give you money for it. It just comes right out of the ground. It's like people really don't,
Starting point is 01:15:48 like people in cities really don't understand these concepts. I mean, people might be thinking, oh, come on, of course people understand farming. No, dude, Kyle Kalinske was on a plane and he took a picture out the window at a bunch of farms and said, I wonder why it looks like that. And people were like, bro, dude, come on. What is that circle? Is that an alien thing yeah he's having
Starting point is 01:16:07 like this really inside like did you guys ever notice this so weird i think looking at farms dude that's where food comes from the article that we're looking at before referenced um buy now pay later services and i'm thinking of like after pay and i think that comes into you know you can pay 40 for the shirt or you can make four payments of ten dollars for the shirt and i think some of that comes into our we don't like to deal with the consequences of our actions mentality that a lot of culture have you know there's instant gratification and there's uh delayed repercussion with that kind of strategy and i think it makes people divorced from the reality of the impact they're having on their own personal finances. Obviously, inflation is a huge deal, but I think we're also trying to find ways to
Starting point is 01:16:48 not feel it. And it's creating larger problems down the line. I think it's time to move out to the middle of nowhere. You know, before we moved out to here, West Virginia, we were looking at Montana, but Montana is actually really expensive, like comparably expensive to being. So it's like you got to find the happy medium where you're close to a city, but far enough away to where it's actually cheaper. But you still have an airport. Looked at Wyoming. I'd rather be up in a big mountain somewhere with a satellite dish, but it's impossible to run a business and fly guests in and things like that. Plus, there's no fuel and food.
Starting point is 01:17:14 It's a lot harder to come by. But surprisingly, the property there is comparably expensive. So we're all moving off the grid. I mean, yes. Not you. Aren't you on Capitol Hill? I mean, the new Freedomistan we're setting up is going to moving off the grid. I mean, yes. Not you. Aren't you on Capitol Hill? I mean, the new – the free domicile we're setting up is going to be off the grid. I mean, it's on the grid because we don't – we're not trying to separate ourselves from the grid for some political point.
Starting point is 01:17:34 But we have the capabilities of operating independently with solar – with welled water, solar systems, and electric cars, electric bikes. We can charge them up with solar power and massive batteries. We're good to go. You got to be independent. And then what we have over there, we have like 18 roosters, I think now. You got to start eating them. Yeah, Chris doesn't want to eat them though.
Starting point is 01:17:55 He'd rather let them live and just be free. And I'm like, but then the fox eats them. Dude, that's not fair. I want to eat them, you know? But he doesn't want to eat them. It's your Chicago upbringing. You guys aren't ready. I'm ready. These chickens, some of them are dicks.
Starting point is 01:18:08 You know, like, you know, we got some chickens that are just mean and nasty. They're food as far as I'm concerned. The ones that are really nice, we'll let them keep laying their eggs and have babies and, you know, live a good healthy life. But, you know, you can't wait too long until you eat them. Because then they get nasty. And the roosters are hard to eat anyway.
Starting point is 01:18:24 They're rubbery. But you just got to put them in a pressure cooker and cook them overnight, make rooster stew or something like that. Do you have recipes? No, no, I don't. Would we make a chicken cookbook, though? I feel like that would be a Tim Kass product. I think it's funny that the chickens that we have
Starting point is 01:18:37 in Chicken City are in like a Truman show and they have no idea that we eat them and we're eating their eggs And they're just oblivious. And it makes me wonder about our life and everything that's going on in the world. Because we're being treated, they're treating us like chickens. You know, they're lying to us. They let our, look, I let the chickens do their thing. You know, they wake up and they run around and they eat bugs and eat food.
Starting point is 01:19:00 And it's just there. What a beautiful home. They don't realize that we are in control of their existence. And that's what I feel like these global elites and the World Economic Forum types are doing to us right now. Just lying to us
Starting point is 01:19:10 to control us and they're like, we don't care if they do a podcast. I don't care if the chickens scream. You know what I mean? It's like they don't care if we do this. You've all know Harari
Starting point is 01:19:17 calls some people useless eaters. He's claimed there's like a class of people that are considered useless. The useless class. I don't think that he would consider you in the useless class because you're actually contributing, you know, emotional support for society and things. But a class of people that are considered useless, the useless class. I don't think that he would consider you in the useless class because you're actually contributing, you know, emotional support for society and things.
Starting point is 01:19:29 But a lot of people that just get home from their nine to five, drink Bud Light and watch sports. It's like the use he considers them relatively useless, which is, you know, I don't personally. They can do a lot. But, you know, if they're not doing a lot, that potential is not kinetic. Wouldn't the idea be that like someone who just like consumes the products and does their job, actually they're very useful
Starting point is 01:19:49 because that's how you make your money. That's who you're showing advertising to. No, because a lot of these jobs are useless and don't provide towards any goal, right? So the view that these people have is you are useless. Your job is useless. And if you weren't around, it'd be better for everybody. And that's a scary prospect. people want to put in the metaverse
Starting point is 01:20:07 on on pharmaceutical psychedelics that's i think you've all know her he's with the world economic forum he's thinks that that's the future of the useless classes they'll be put on like pharma or sterilized psychs and in their verse experiencing what they want to experience i mean we're both but they'll be happy about it or all're all. They'll be completely, look. Yeah, it's about keeping them docile. When Neuralink becomes public, these woke cultists are going to be lining up, screaming and begging for it.
Starting point is 01:20:34 That's it. That's crazy. You know, but yeah. And we'll see, though, if we get to that point where we actually do get, you know, computer brain interface working, because there are some difficulties with it. Technology may not be around the corner. Elon Musk is trying. He's got
Starting point is 01:20:48 monkeys doing weird monkey stuff. Would you sign up for it? Would you get Neuralink? Me, no. But there is an interesting point about, right now, the issue with Neuralink is it's like, what is it, read only, right? Yeah. Write is where it gets interesting. So I'll put it this way. If
Starting point is 01:21:03 you could get a port attached to your brain stem or whatever, and it would probably be a magnet wireless transmission. I doubt it would be like a plug that clicks in. But you put it on the back of your neck, and it writes to your brain, and then all of a sudden you're in Lord of the Rings. You're in Die Hard. You you're in die hard you're john mclean yippee-ki-yay everyone would want it it would be the it would be a literal dream come true people would be like you get to you mean i get to be the carrot and then they go into a world
Starting point is 01:21:36 where they're a carrot they're just like running around yelling like some people want weird weird stuff man they'll be trying to explain something to someone and the person like i don't get in there like let me show you and then you see what they're thinking and then it's going to be like how do i compete i want to interact with people like that i want to show them what i'm feeling can i so i got to get the plug this sounds appealing to me i have to say yeah it does doesn't it no it doesn't it doesn't sound appealing to me this sounds horrifying i feel like your brain is your own personal space and to be like look but if I give you a link, you can come join me here. Like, no, get out.
Starting point is 01:22:07 But it's not even about that. It's about some guy goes to work at McDonald's. And then he's just like making the burger. And he's like, here's your burger, sir. Thank you very much. Here's your drink. And then he goes home and he's like, he takes the thing, clicks it to his neck. And then all of a sudden, I am V valsinor hero of the fourth wind and then he's that's fighting dragons he's gonna people are gonna beg for that they're gonna line up and be like i hate my life i want to be a rabbit and then they're gonna go into rabbit sim and they're gonna run around as a rabbit and they're gonna go into goat simulator and they'll
Starting point is 01:22:38 run around headbutting people and things like that or goose simulator remember goose yeah that goose game that game was fun headbutt simulator will be cool and it's gonna be time dilation so they'll Headbutting people and things like that. Or Goose Simulator. Remember Goose? Yeah. That Goose game? That game was fun. Headbutt Simulator would be cool. And it's going to be time dilation, so they'll be able to go in for what they perceive as 20 hours, and then when they're done, it's only an hour has gone by. How would you not want that ability? Dude, people are going to go visit loved ones who died. It's going to get dark.
Starting point is 01:22:59 But people are going to beg for it. They're going to be like, in this simulated world, we've taken all of your father's Facebook posts, compiled them into an AI, and now you can go and hang out at a cafe for his birthday. And you're going to go in and he's going to be there and he's going to be like, you know, I'm a robot, but I'm your dad. And then you're going to be like, I miss you, dad. It could be to the point where anyone that resists that could be seen as a terrorist to the status quo. If you wanted to stop people from getting embedded in that system, you're in the way
Starting point is 01:23:24 of what's right and what's good. And you are a danger to society. Like I can see that. You're a religious zealot. Dumb shit. I mean, the thing is, if you believe in liberty, you would let people sign up for it if they want to be in it. But ultimately, every time you come out of that simulation, you'll feel more depressed. You'll hate your life even more. I think you would hope that enough people want to invest in the fact that they have a real life that they can make whatever they want out of it or they could go into pain simulator and then when they come out they're like well this isn't so bad yeah but look at post-modernism people don't believe in
Starting point is 01:23:52 reality they don't believe in objective reality they would rather live you know what hey i say let them do it in fact we should all agree let's all the post-modernists how about we give you guys neural link we hook you guys up put you into pods we'll make sure that pod economy is working just fine for all of you because we don't want you coming out. And then we'll live our lives. Everything will be fine, and you get to live the world you want to live in. Everything works.
Starting point is 01:24:10 We believe in objective reality, so we'll take objective reality. You take the pod universe, and we'll polish those pods nice and clean all for you. And there you go. It works for me. Finally, a happy ending to this. Yeah, and then it worked out. This is such a dark conversation. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Cause if you do put people in pods and then kind of let them off on their own, it'd be like letting an AI figure out how to wipe out humanity on its own. If you don't watch it and watch what it's doing, it can very well be working to destroy you in the background. I feel like I've seen this movie. It's, it's interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:42 I was just thinking about Terminator two last night. I don't really well so but the the issue with the matrix is it shouldn't be robots to be people people run the matrix and some people want to be in the matrix and they choose to be and what would really end up happening or i think a probable scenario is that if we actually built the metaverse you'd have a lot of people and there'd be a company and says we can hook you into the metaverse permanently your body will be suspended in a float solution. We'll take care of you to make sure there's no injuries.
Starting point is 01:25:09 We'll keep you healthy and your body will be regulated. And the Neuralink will actually stimulate muscle growth and will provide you with a feeding tube. And in this universe, you will do work and that work will interact with objective reality. You can leave at any time. Tons of people would sign up for that. And then what would you do in the digital world? Coding, you know, jobs related to the arts and things like that,
Starting point is 01:25:28 and software development. And then just harvest your body heat, get some like isoelectric gel. No, you're in the metaverse. You're in the metaverse and you're a philosophy teacher, or you're a mathematician, or you're a software developer, or you're a consultant, or any kind of non-physical labor job. You host a podcast. And then people in the real world listen to your show.
Starting point is 01:25:50 And you're just in a pod floating there. But your brain is creating this simulation. And you make money from that. And then you have to pay the pod company a percentage of revenue or a yearly fee of, you know, 20 grand or whatever to maintain the pod for you. And you live in your own universe. And then in this universe, let's say you host a podcast. And then when the podcast is over, you stand up and you're like, all right, guys, thanks
Starting point is 01:26:11 for coming, everybody. I'm going to go fight some dragons for the next few hours and then fly away. And then like, you know, your guest is like, I'm going to go be a dragon, then turns into a dragon and flies off. That's the world people are going to want to live in. And they're going to pay to do it. And like your super chat followers will be in your party at the end of the night. You're like, now I'm going to fight dragons.
Starting point is 01:26:26 And like the top four super chatters are going to be in the party with you fighting the dragons tonight. Yeah, you're going to be like, if you super chat and you're in the top four, you get to come fight dragons or aliens or zombies or zombie alien dragons, whatever. I totally believe you that people will pay for this and people will want it. It just personally sounds so unappealing to me. I believe so fundamentally that you have this life to live and you have to do something with it in this time like deciding that you are going to it's like as if you were telling me i'm just gonna spend the rest of my
Starting point is 01:26:54 life watching tv like that's what i'm hearing when you sign up for neuro link like you're just looking to be distracted from the reality of the world and if that's your choice i respect it like i don't want to tell people what to do, but I think ultimately you're lying to yourself if you think you will ever be a more satisfied person from completely devoting
Starting point is 01:27:11 your life to the metaverse. The postmodernists will be. Maybe so. Absolutely. I don't think they're very happy now, but maybe. Well, they don't want to be what they are.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Like, there are people who want to be cats. There are people who want to be animals. And there are people who want to be cartoon animals. They people who want to be animals. And there are people who want to be cartoon animals. They identify as these things. They would absolutely take
Starting point is 01:27:28 the Neuralink implant. But it's better than just watching TV like another... It's like if you were reading Twitter all day and then making an internet video show
Starting point is 01:27:37 on YouTube at the end of the night. Like kind of like exactly what Tim does and what I do. See, I mean, the important thing people need to understand
Starting point is 01:27:43 right now is that this show is actually produced in the metaverse. We're not real people. I hate it here. Hannah Clare is actually a 35-year-old man named Bob. I'm being kidnapped. Send help.
Starting point is 01:27:52 So it's an interactive way to experience humanity. But you're saying that you think power off, like just being out in the field is better? Like, what do you mean it's not good? I mean, I think fundamentally it's a deception, right? You may feel like you're fighting dragons. You may feel like you have a podcast and you may have some kind of relationship with someone who also is pretending to be something.
Starting point is 01:28:14 It, to me, reminds me of the criticism you get of social media, right? That everyone is putting out a fake front. And that's why we tell people to stop checking Instagram and Twitter all the time because it's actually bad for your mental health. You know what would be really funny, though? If, like, it turned out all of this is one weird metaverse simulation for Hannah Clare,
Starting point is 01:28:32 who's actually a 56-year-old morbidly obese man, who's like, I just want to be a young blonde woman. And so, like, you're sitting here being like, you're all crazy. Metaverse is terrible. But, like, it's actually your simulation. Yeah, I think if I were to wake up and realize that i was in the metaverse and that was true i would be really miserable which means i would go back into the metaverse right and i think that's terrible like i think giving people you know
Starting point is 01:28:52 we talked about earlier that facebook intentionally tried to see if they could make people depressed and follow the content they produced afterwards like that is what this is opening the door to because what what is the point of not having you hooked up to the neural link you're going to be on your deathbed and your family's going to be around you and they're going to be like we love you nana and you're like i lived a good life and then all of a sudden it's going to blink and you're going to wake up as a 56 year old morbidly obese guy and go back to the salt mines and gotta go to work but think of all the relationships you would form in the metaverse that you would think are real and then if anything were to happen to your pod it would get deleted they're not real i mean kind
Starting point is 01:29:28 of but you know i don't lament not hanging out with princess peach after i beat mario so i had a friend that did an ayahuasca ceremony and he said it was like a two-day ceremony and he said he lived another life in this ceremony like a like a psychedelic experience where he had family a wife and children that he remembers and still to this day misses. Like, he knows them. That's wild. Yeah, dude. I've heard a lot of crazy stories like that. DMT is crazy. I think just being told constantly that, like, even if you forget, right, you're in the metaverse so intensely and you're doing whatever, if it ever were to be over, you would be destroyed, right? And I think that's why you have to live your real life and not your fake life. And if there are things that you are aspiring to be, right?
Starting point is 01:30:10 Like, I can't help you if you want to be a cartoon cat. Maybe you should draw one and become a cartoonist. Or go to the metaverse. You could be a cartoon cat. Don't go to the metaverse. Don't go. You going in, Matt? I'm not going in.
Starting point is 01:30:20 Yeah. I'm analog. I want to actually live the life I have. So call me old school. Will you work with the developers on it? I don't think it's old school. It's my first thought. Unless I can become a cat because that sort of sounds cool.
Starting point is 01:30:32 You can. In the metaverse, you can be a cat. I just want to knock. That's how they get you. It's going to be like drugs. They're going to be like, just try it once. See what being a cat's like. I just want to knock stuff off the counter.
Starting point is 01:30:41 No one will blame you for it. It's like all I ever want to do is climb up on someone's table and just throw stuff on the floor. I want to scratch it. You could do that in your real life. I just want you to know that. Now, why do they do that? You know what I mean? They're dominant.
Starting point is 01:30:53 They do this thing where they go to a door and then yell at you and you open the door and they turn around and walk away. Like, they just want the door open. Is that what it is? It's because cats are libertarians. You know what I love? I love it when they go up to a door and they start yelling. And then they'll put their paws under it and they're shaking the door and yelling at you. Like, open it.
Starting point is 01:31:11 And you open it and they just walk off. They just don't want the door closed. Keep it open. I had a cat who would stand there and scratch the door constantly. He thought he could dig his way through it. You'd open the door and he'd be like, I don't even know why you did that. I'm going the other way now. So Bocas, downstairs in the pantry, he's always screaming to open the door.
Starting point is 01:31:30 And you do. And he immediately runs to these loose kibbles that are on the ground because he's a weirdo. And he's tricking you. It's a trick. Because as soon as you walk away, he jumps into the box of bacon. That's right. I've seen him do that. And then he starts tearing the bacon open and eating all the bacon.
Starting point is 01:31:44 He's an animal. Dirty. So then when I caught him doing it, I picked him up, and he was yelling. He was like, ah! Genius! He yelled at me. He was pissed. One time it was really funny.
Starting point is 01:31:53 He was trying to go in the garage, and I kept blocking his path. And then he got really mad and just went like this with his hand real slow and then whacked me one time on the leg. And then I was like, what are you doing? And then he just walked away. I went up behind him he was looking out the window and I kind of
Starting point is 01:32:06 roughly petted him on his sides and he turned around and swiped at my face with full claw just got the hair but he was letting me know I'm faster than you
Starting point is 01:32:13 sharper than you just don't mess with me bro just a shot across the bow yeah and I've never touched him that way again we have a much better relationship go with the flow
Starting point is 01:32:21 Fridays are the best watch their tails this is the important news if they start flipping their tails everybody you've got to lay off. Everybody can relate to kitty business. Yeah, my cats are hardcore objectivists. Oh, yeah. Rourke, Ragnar, and Reardon.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Nice. And they absolutely believe that they are superior. Of course. And frankly, they are. What's the hierarchy like over at the Kibbe household? They own everything and they eat better than we do. When we're eating crickets, they're still going to be eating the good beef because that's the way it is. And by the way, the other half of this story, and this will upset some people listening, dogs are actually communists. I don't know if you've noticed this.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, dogs are communists. Always looking for a handout, always looking for secondhand affirmation, like a pat on the head. My cats don't do that stuff. Yeah, cats are libertarian. Do you think that a pet dog,
Starting point is 01:33:16 if faced with a pack of dogs that wanted him to join, would look at you in the eye and be like, sorry, bro, I'm a communist at heart? 100%. Don't trust them. Yeah, don't trust them. I want to love dogs. They look like psychopaths when I look into their eyes. I think that's one of the reasons it's so nice
Starting point is 01:33:34 when a cat likes you because they don't have to, whereas dogs, they think you're in this together and cats are like, I'm choosing this relationship with you. You are lucky to have my tolerance. When a cat gives you a little bit of love, it's a boost to your self-esteem. Finally, I matter. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:48 Dogs are clingy. But I like dogs. You know, I like dogs because they're loyal. They're like loyal soldiers, you know? They're there for you. And you are not going to get your cat to do, like, you can never train a cat to do anything. They train you.
Starting point is 01:34:00 Can't even get Bocas to use a litter box. He's pissing on the floor. There's a theory that cats domesticated humans back in the day. That's how it all happened. It happened kind of synergistically, but a big part of it was cats. Cats are an invasive species that we tolerated. One of the things I've heard is like cats. That's not true.
Starting point is 01:34:16 That is incorrect. They didn't meow. They started doing that to talk to humans like that. They they don't do this in the wild and they do it for your benefit which i think is hilarious dogs were domesticated by humans and wolves slowly being pushed together for mutual benefit cats just hang out and people laugh because they're funny and cats don't bother us that's why they're they're technically domesticated in that sense but you don't you can train them but they're not really tradable because we did not. Like livestock, beasts of burden, all trained. Horses trained.
Starting point is 01:34:48 Cats, sometimes people will train a cat because you can, but for the most part, they don't. You can do some kind of training with them, but for the most part, because cats came into human existence by like jumping through our windows and then we laughed about it. Not because they ate mice.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Terriers were bred for hunting mice and rats. Is there any way to get a cat, a male cat, to stop peeing? Yes. How? Diapers. We have diapers for him. He can't like that, though. That must drive him nuts.
Starting point is 01:35:14 He walks all funny, but if he's going to piss on the floor, give him a diaper. And they make those sprays that are supposed to tell your cat not to pee there and stuff like that. Yeah, but he's... Cat urine, you have to soak the... I don't know why I'm giving this advice on the podcast. But anyways, I had a really great cat. He died just about a year ago and I was obsessed with him. But he went...
Starting point is 01:35:33 Whenever I like moved or something, he had a really hard time adjusting with pee places. And you have to clean with apple cider vinegar because it's so... The smell is so intense. They can go back to exactly the same spot. We're going to go to Super Chats. If you haven't already,
Starting point is 01:35:44 would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends head over to timcast.com become a member we've got a bunch of awesome shows up there check out all the timcast uncensored robert davi last night talking about all these crazy stories in hollywood it was really really fun how he met pablo escobar that's crazy because he was a bond villain and i guess escobar like saw himself in this bond villain and was like why don't you come and you know and it's a crazy story it's legit you got a bag of emeralds or whatever check that out let's read some super chats waffle sensei says facebook took down my image of the email between facebook and the white house they said it violated their
Starting point is 01:36:19 community standards under the subsection of terrorism. Dark Brandon hath risen. You know, David Ruck says Biden said Trump and extreme MAGA Republicans are a clear and present danger to democracy. Look up the clear and present danger rule to see how they'll start arresting their political enemies. I think so. I do. Free men die free, says now more than ever. It is important to amplify voices like Ron Paul. Make it happen, Tim. Ron Paul and Timcast do it. Ron Paul is like top of the list. We gotta get Ron on. How do we get Ron on? Dr. Paul. He's in D.C. tomorrow. Oh, is he really?
Starting point is 01:36:53 Really. Does he have time? I'll ask around. Yes. That'd be so cool. He doesn't travel that much anymore. You guys have talked about being willing to go to him, though, right? Yeah, but also I think his people said that he would come out here. It's just scheduling, I suppose.
Starting point is 01:37:11 But we got to get Rob. We'll be here all day. Let's do it. Yeah, that'd be fantastic. We can do a special interview with him. He said tomorrow, right? The memes would be fantastic. Oh, it would be so amazing.
Starting point is 01:37:22 I'm a big fan. And we also want to get Rand on the show too because Rand's like one of the only good politicians. You know what I mean? We're big fans of the Pauls here. The Paul family. The Pauls. The Pauls. Tim Pool likes the Pauls. The Pauls are good people.
Starting point is 01:37:38 Like Logan. Like Ron. Like all the Pauls. Tim Ferriss says, Joe wandered back around to a dead mic. I think your bingo card won can I take credit for that we have if walks wrong way that's true
Starting point is 01:37:51 that's a good point he did walk the wrong way he turned around and went back and the mic was dead I win what do you win I won the bingo
Starting point is 01:37:59 I won the bingo from yesterday you won the prize yeah he started late he walked the wrong way I got a free space he said soul of the nation and he said Trump that was easy that was easy won the prize? Yeah, he started late. He walked the wrong way. I got a free space. He said, soul of the nation, and he said Trump. That was easy. That was easy.
Starting point is 01:38:08 At the end of the night, he started to walk to the left, I thought, but then he was just saluting guys. But he turned around, then stopped, turned back around, and that's the wrong way. Jill kissed him. That was nice. But he looked like he was like, oh, there's all these people watching. I'm just surprised he made it through the length of that speech, to be honest. Yeah, it was actually more cogent.
Starting point is 01:38:27 It was such a rough start. I'm like, oh, this is going to be rough. He actually hammered his way through it. In terms of his delivery skills, it was pretty reasonable. All right, Grofty says, spin the UFO. Okay. Get ready for this.
Starting point is 01:38:44 Where did this come from? The UFO? Yeah. I saw an ad for it on Instagram, and then I bought it. Spinning. And then we had desktop cleaner one day, and I made an Instagram video spinning it. Nice. And then it became a meme.
Starting point is 01:38:55 Shout out to Adam Krigler for all the UFOs out there. Aaron Bacon says, Twitter deleting accounts, which negative to Biden? Is that true? Is that post-negative content? I don't know kevin brady says cnn didn't change it for optics i super chatted yesterday about the tint balance being green and they needed a magenta shift i'll tag ian on twitter now in my post still bad optic choice i'm like you know maybe but it's stupid and weird to do. It seems like a weird mistake for such a huge network.
Starting point is 01:39:29 I don't know, man. I don't believe them. I don't give them the benefit of the doubt. The stuff right behind him was like dark black at first, and then it slowly got, they brought the light up on that too. Farrell says Biden's speech is meant to inspire violence following Trump's indictment. My advice to GOP voters, do not attend rallies or protests regarding Trump's indictment. Spread this message. Focus only on voting and Biden's failures.
Starting point is 01:39:50 I would say I 95% agree. I don't know about saying don't go to rallies and stuff like that. I get it, though. They're going to January 6th, people. You're going to show up to a rally, and you're going to wave a little American flag, and then some lunatic is going to do something, and they're going to blame you for it.
Starting point is 01:40:06 But what's the alternative? Tell people not to engage in their First Amendment right to protest? The key right now is do not harp on 2020. That is not focus on fixing the Dominion proprietary voting machines and making the code open. Win in the midterms and you get everything you want. OK, probably not. Depends on if the Republicans actually do anything. But I will say this. Your best chance right now is to hyper focus on winning the midterms.
Starting point is 01:40:30 Do not. I think it's likely. Trump will be indicted sometime soon before the midterms. And then we'll end up hearing that some Trump supporter got violent, either because a Trump supporter got violent or because it's a false flag. Whichever reason you want to believe. That's why I'm saying people need to stay away from any potential hot situations or whatever. If, you know, people got to have a right to protest. But if you're out and you see stuff
Starting point is 01:40:54 unfolding like January 6th, you better GTFO. And I'll tell you why. I love protests. You have a right to protest. But this is right now the closing stretch of the midterms to get some hearings, to get some investigations, to get something done. And there are traps and minefields all around you. Strategy is extremely important. Win the midterms. This is desperation on Biden's part. They're going to try and stop you. They want you to make a mistake. They're waiting for it. They need you to make a mistake. Don't make those mistakes, man. Don't give them what they need. All right. All AlphaZeroBeta says,
Starting point is 01:41:30 Joe says he's defending democracy, but I don't think the Green Party of North Carolina could agree less. Democrats love democracy as long as it's two parties, not three. Yeah. What about the Libertarian Party? They don't like them either, right?
Starting point is 01:41:40 No, they don't like us. Well, the Republicans don't like us that much either. It depends which way the shift is. I love the assumption that the Libertarians would take votes only from Republicans, because that wasn't true, I don't think, in 2016, right? No, and I think generally Libertarians have a new community that turns out to vote. I never really bought that Libertarians steal votes from either Republicans or Democrats. And they might be divided between Republicans and Democrats, but they're people that probably wouldn't have showed up.
Starting point is 01:42:11 I briefly covered the North Carolina Green Party, or some stuff that's going on, because they had a really hard time getting on the ballot this year. And they said the Libertarian Party was incredibly supportive. Yeah, I like the idea of people having choices. How involved are you with Libertarian Party? I am a Libertarian, Big L Libertarian now, and I show up to their conventions, but I wouldn't say I'm bad at it. Mises Caucus?
Starting point is 01:42:36 I'm a big fan of the Mises Caucus, and I show up at state party events and speak for them, but I'm waiting for something to happen. I think that libertarians spend way too much time fighting with each other. And we got to get to this idea that not everybody's going to be just as perfect as I am. And this is a libertarian disease
Starting point is 01:42:58 where if a guy disagrees with you on one thing, they go bananas. I want to build a big tent libertarianism that is is like a fun place to hang out and we're not we're not there yet we're not there yet we're we're fighting with each other pissed off patriot says hashtag pedo hitler pedo hitler was trending like 200 000 tweets or something man that picture that picture. Yeah, that's crazy. That's burned in infamy in my mind. They're screwed over that, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:43:30 That was, they did not expect that. I really don't think so. And it is going to be used forever. Yeah, forever. And it's going to freak people out. They're going to look at that. And that's what matters, feelings. They're going to see that image. And it's a creepy image of Biden looking despotic.
Starting point is 01:43:44 It's strange because I've heard a lot of descriptions like, oh, it was a patriotic presentation. You want to be like, so this is patriotism done by people who don't like patriotism. Yeah, Hitler was patriotic to Germany. His whole thing was one Germany, bring the German fatherland together. If you're German first, you know, it was all about patriotism. It doesn't mean it's good. Yeah, it's kind of funny. You could cut and paste the speech and part
Starting point is 01:44:08 of it would have sounded like something that Ron Paul would say or some sort of Tea Party guy talking about liberty and the Constitution and all that stuff. It was almost like a caricature of someone that had no idea what those words meant and we're going to paste them all together
Starting point is 01:44:23 and then we're going to divide the country. Seth Houser says, the FBI can easily stage a fake MAGA Trump attack on the Capitol or whatever. You think they will not do it? They've done it before. Well, we saw what happened with the Whitmer thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:36 It was like, was it like 12 FBI agents and like four guys who were just like, I don't know, I guess, whatever. Aha, you're under arrest. Good job, guys. Derek Jones says, Tim don't know, I guess whatever. Aha! You're under arrest. Good job, guys. Derek Jones says, Tim, the right is missing something. The imagery was deliberately chosen. It was in part to
Starting point is 01:44:52 provoke the right to act irrationally and violently just before an election. It's no secret voters don't like the erratic and violent. Then maybe, maybe they knew they were going to make Biden look like a lunatic, and it was on purpose because they want MAGA people to be like, oh, it's happening, Yeah. And freak out. I think it's a credible theory. I think everybody needs to tell everyone else to stay calm. Do not let anybody, you know,
Starting point is 01:45:15 talk people down. If you're hearing people get crazy, don't let them. Don't get crazy, man. You got to police your own community. And one reason to show up at rallies is to make sure that that one guy, and maybe it's a plant, right? You don't know who this one violent guy is, but everybody needs to take responsibility to shut that guy down. I remember I did a couple of videos praising some leftist protesters because an Antifa guy started smashing bricks with a hammer to pull out of the ground or something. And the leftist grabbed him and brought him to the cops. And I'm like, yes. That's what you have to do to do yeah because the peaceful protests are a good thing and we're helping and they help your
Starting point is 01:45:48 cause this guy got violent they stopped him and then the optics were good it's like yeah hey look we but you know the problem is a lot of these lefties they support antifa when they go and destroy the working class neighborhoods and stuff and so you know i get it you reap what you sow you're going to lose support because of it it It does seem like Biden's speech was a provocation to action for people on the right, and they just have to ignore it. I mean, Tim's totally right. You have to focus on midterms. But by the way, just a big mistake. The idea that you're going to divide the country and the imagery with everything else sucking that bad, even if they get all their guys to show up, they're turning out independents that otherwise were sort of
Starting point is 01:46:32 riding the fence right now. I think it was a colossal strategic mistake, unless they get the violence that they want. Cheddar2648 says, MAGA is a third party coalition of GOP conservatives, independents, and patriotic Democrats. Trump is Perot's successor, a businessman outsider who infiltrated the GOP and beat them at their own game. Yeah, I don't— Ross Perot is wild. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:56 Noah Zork says, vote quartering for the Grifties, phone and PC. Oh. What does that mean? I don't know what the Grifties are. The Grifties is an awards ceremony. Is it because the quartering is selling coffee? Yeah, he's a self acknowledged greatest grifter on
Starting point is 01:47:11 earth. I don't know, Jeremy, are you? I think he was into it. Oh, really? He's got a new place. It looks cool. Yeah. Really? New house, yeah. Coffee money, dude. Yeah, big coffee. Yeah, big coffee. Quartering is a coffee baron. Yeah, he is. Gottaing is a coffee baron. He is. You've got to be careful.
Starting point is 01:47:26 Coffee baron. It's funny because he super chatted us like a ton of money to shout at his coffee. I just find it hilarious. So he's going to go to grifties.com. He did that during ChairCast, right? Yeah, ChairCast. That was fun. Oh, he's number three.
Starting point is 01:47:38 Grifties.com. Oh, snap. Number one. Tim's number six. I'm going down. Only Nick Rikita. Yeah, you're down from wherever you were. Nick Rikita? Yeah, I'm on there too. You're on there? Nick Rikita's number two. Well, I'm going down. Only Nick Rikita. Yeah, you're down from wherever you were. Nick Rikita?
Starting point is 01:47:45 Yeah, I'm on there too. You're on there? Nick Rikita's number two. My name's under your name. I don't know. Oh, yeah. Okay. Really?
Starting point is 01:47:51 Yeah. You're selling Tim Cash? You're number seven? No, no, no. My name is like a sub name under your name. It's number six. I don't know why. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:47:58 That's unfair to you, Ian. Yeah. I was robbed. You griffed that graphene like nobody else. Next year. Big graphene. Big grifties.ene like nobody else. Next year. Big graphene. Big on them for you, griffies. The griffies.
Starting point is 01:48:08 So I think the quartering was always above me. I don't know. Good for him, man. Bravo, sir. Bravo, sir. So what's the website? Griffies.com. Nice.
Starting point is 01:48:17 Griffies.com. How long have the griffies been around? I'm just curious. I haven't kept up with them. This is the second annual. The second annual. Nice. How many are there?
Starting point is 01:48:25 Hotep's Been Told You presents the Grifties. How many Grifties are issued? Yeah, what are they issued? Like five? I don't know. What are the requirements? I'm curious. Are there categories like best female actress?
Starting point is 01:48:37 Ghost of Kiev. What? That's another one nominated. I don't know enough about it. Yeah. But there's a video. Hotep Nation presents 2021 Grifties Awards. Oh, so 2022.
Starting point is 01:48:47 This is from last year. All right. We should. Best political Grifty. Best political Grifty. We'll sponsor a big event. No joke. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:48:54 Hell yeah. Let's put a budget behind this and actually get some awards made. It would be amazing. And if Jeremy won and he came out with a speech and the coffee and then like. Brought to you by. That would be hilarious, dude. That would be amazing, actually. We should do it like- Brought to you by. It'd be hilarious, dude. That would be amazing, actually.
Starting point is 01:49:08 We should do it. I'm gonna do it. Hotep, let's do it. We love it. It's the only award show we can get behind. Yeah, I know. That sounds pretty fun, actually. It'd be cool.
Starting point is 01:49:19 Joe Novak says, loved the MTG playing MTG skit. If she's looking for a real challenge, my wife has some killer decks. No offense to Ian. I loved the part when, in the full episode, Marjorie chats in the forum, blue sucks and you suck, to Ian. Oh, no, no. She says white sucks and you suck. That's great.
Starting point is 01:49:35 That forum scene's amazing. Yeah, that was good. What about Marjorie Taylor Greene versus Post Malone? In Magic? That's what we need. That's the event we didn't know we needed. That's the Holy Grail. That would be great. Do you play Magic the Gathering?
Starting point is 01:49:46 No. I don't either. Andy Welsh says, The Darth Jar Jar theory postulates that due to the extreme audience backlash, Lucas was compelled to rework the entire prequel trilogy and abandon his original plan to reveal Jar Jar is the true Phantom Menace. It's true. Wow.
Starting point is 01:50:01 Yeah, Jar Jar was the bad guy the whole time. I knew it. I've heard that theory. Yeah, I guess the ending guy the whole time I've heard that theory yeah yeah I guess the ending of the sequels is that um the emperor is now a young woman is that what like that's what happened I haven't seen it but he says he says something like strike strike me down and I will take your body or something like that right yeah well I didn't see the movie he said something like that he's like I found a way to live forever. If you strike me down in anger,
Starting point is 01:50:25 I'll transfer my energy or whatever. And then she does. And so I was like, so is she like the emperor is her now? Like he took her body over. That's weird. The emperor was like this whole nine movie arc was so that I could be a young woman. So he's the guy who needs the metaverse.
Starting point is 01:50:41 Yeah. I don't know. Somebody told me I was wrong about that before, something like that. R Bracewell21 says, if you haven't already looked into executive order 14067 and think about how the inflation is manufactured. And remember, the social credit score they were talking about with the Vax Pass, it's a bit scary and would love to hear your take on it, Tim. What is that? What is that? 14067? Ensuring responsible development of digital assets is what it's called.
Starting point is 01:51:10 Signed on March 9th, 2022. 83rd executive order signed by President Joe Biden. 83 executive orders signed by the guy. The purpose of the order is to develop digital assets in a responsible manner. It's an executive order, though. It's not an emergency. He likes a good executive order. I feel like I haven't looked at the order, though. It's not an emergency. He likes a good executive order. I feel like I haven't looked at the numbers, but.
Starting point is 01:51:28 We should look. This should be Congress's job. They're the money people. What do we got? Ugly Swan says, not my line, but it's good. Our task is to look at the structure of why we are failing as human beings. And I say all of us. And if you don't have faith in the people, what do you have faith in?
Starting point is 01:51:49 Chickens. Chickens. Chickens will save us. Chickens and Bitcoin. Yeah, we have a frizzle chicken. You know, those are the feathers are curled and it's laying blue eggs. It's a white chicken with frizzle feathers laying blue eggs. How about that?
Starting point is 01:52:00 You'd miss that if you were in the metaverse. That's right. And then what happens is if you frizzle babies, you have to breed them with non-frizzle chickens because if you breed two frizzles, you get a frazzle and their feathers disintegrate. And then they're just naked chickens. So
Starting point is 01:52:15 what happens is you do a frizzle and a normal farm chicken and then half of them will be frizzled when they get older. What do you think about faith in humanity? What do you mean? Do you have it older. What do you think about faith in humanity? What do you mean? Do you have it? But what does that mean, faith in humanity?
Starting point is 01:52:33 Like the success of the sustainability of the species in the long future. It's not about faith in humanity. It's about math. It's the probabilistic outcomes of what happens to humanity. Even if we blow ourselves up, some humans will still survive and then give it a certain amount of time and then humans come back. That's the vibe I'm getting because the technology's so good. I can't imagine that we didn't already succeed in some way
Starting point is 01:52:48 that we've been able to get to this point. Shell Beach says, chickens are Tim's graphene. Yes, that's true. But I think Ian talks about graphene more than talk about chickens, but I do talk about chickens a lot.
Starting point is 01:52:57 And you know, a lot of times I talk about graphene because you make me do it. That's true. You push me. Graphene is a hexagonal, I'm just kidding by the way. We got some Jersey that's true. You pushed me. Graphene is a hexagonal... I'm just kidding, by the way. We got some Jersey Giants
Starting point is 01:53:08 downstairs. I want to get a picture of Graphene behind me on the wall. I'm going to do that later. Picture of Graphene. We got Jersey Giants. They're the biggest chicken breed.
Starting point is 01:53:15 And there's four babies in the incubator right now. Oh, yeah. They're scared. Have you noticed that? They're a little jumpy. Oh, they're store-bought, so... I want a Frizzle
Starting point is 01:53:23 Jersey Giant crossover. We have a really huge chicken with the curly feathers. Once we get that, we breed it with the silkies. They're called Sizzles. They have curly, very soft, fluffy feathers. They're massive.
Starting point is 01:53:41 Super big. Then we're going to start having the biggest breed with each other, and eventually we'll have like five-foot-tall chickens we can ride. Yeah, that'll be great. That's the plan, man. No, you'll never really be able to, I'm pretty sure. But the biggest rooster is a Brahma.
Starting point is 01:53:55 He was three and a half feet tall or something like that. Crazy video. Massive thing. I don't even know how that thing would reproduce. It would crush whatever it stood on. Yeah. Yikes. Yeah, I don't know. I'm stuck thinking about five-foot chickens. Yeah, I'm stuck on that.
Starting point is 01:54:10 I feel like this is our next project. Yeah, for sure. In our dystopian future when there is no energy, we will be riding chickens to El Salvador. Yeah, that'll be fun. Or in El Salvador. Because they've adopted Bitcoin as their national currency. When the system collapses, they'll be the wealthiest nation on the planet.
Starting point is 01:54:26 It'll be like, you know, the new shining city on the hill or whatever. Alright. Random user says, Lydia, let Tim know that Max Kaiser is looking to start an English international news station in El Salvador with government help up his alley.
Starting point is 01:54:42 Interesting. Well, we know Max. Max is awesome. We're good friends with Max. Tell him yourself. Man, I've known Max for a long time. We found out in some really fun times in France. We've had him on the show, I think, was it just one time or what? Twice.
Starting point is 01:54:55 Twice? Yeah, we've got to have them back. Max and Stacey are amazing. Big fans. David C. Kronk Sr. says, if Ian can see ghosts, he can be a happy medium i've seen infrared light one time i woke up out of a deep sleep and i saw it going in it looked like it was going into my phone but that's just because my perception was warped and i lost lost
Starting point is 01:55:17 perception of it but yeah you can visualize you can you can perceive infrared light which may be ghostic anthony says we eat our roosters. We use them as roasters. Same taste as hens. I guess if you eat them young enough, you know, they're food. They're better. Everyone just hold out for the Tim Kass official chicken cookbook. That's right. It's going to be good.
Starting point is 01:55:36 I don't know. Chicken pot pie. How to serve chicken. It's really nuts when you go order wings at like a restaurant, and it's like you order six wings. That's three chickens. Well, I guess technically if you get flats and drums, then it's like one and a half chickens, but still crazy. It's a lot.
Starting point is 01:55:52 You're like, I will have one and a half chickens worth of wings and flats. You make coq au vin with roosters. Yeah. Oh, what's that? Big old chicken. It's basically chicken cooked in wine. It's a classic French country dish. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:56:06 Yeah. In our cookbook, we can have Matt Kibbe's Coco Vin. I make a pretty wicked Coco Vin. Neglectful Sausage says, People in the Matrix didn't get shoved into pods by the machines. Man did it to themselves. The ultimate social safety dream is metaverse. No one can be harmed.
Starting point is 01:56:22 It'll be illegal to not go, just like reckless driving imperils you. Adrian Curry says four days brine and all day in the crock pot makes any rooster taste perfect. Ooh, brine. That sounds amazing.
Starting point is 01:56:37 Another recipe for our cookbook. I'm telling you. We gotta figure out which rooster we're gonna execute. We should have a trial. There's so many to choose you know we should have a trial there's so many we should have a we should have a trial trial get them lawyers it'll be great chicken lawyers i'll bring the wine it'll be delicious that sounds great yeah brine four days in brine wine that sounds really good try both of them we just have a cooking channel where we only make chicken in a crock pot starling x X Knight says, Tim, big fan.
Starting point is 01:57:05 I work in the Intel community for a living with focus on international incursion and influence. Social media is being incredibly arrogant and y'all are right. Pushing Maoist-like info ops. This is what our adversaries need to break us. Yeah, I think it's probably China. You know?
Starting point is 01:57:20 That's why Trump wanted to ban TikTok. Because it's China. It's definitely China. And they got your kids man what does it say Adrian Curry says trial on stream should we cook the rooster and then have it here on IRL and we're eating the rooster
Starting point is 01:57:37 during the show special cooking show she's suggesting we figure out who's guilty live oh I see I see. I see. Trial. Bring them all into a room. Ask them some questions. A whodunit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:49 Because you know one of them's guilty. So we were talking about this because we have one barred rock rooster. They're like a zebra stripe looking one, like white and black, named Dorothy. All the boys want her. I don't know why. Because I don't understand chicken. You know what I mean? I just look at chickens. They're the same to me. She's extremely beautiful. Beautiful.'t know why. Because I don't understand chicken. You know what I mean? I just look at chickens.
Starting point is 01:58:05 They're the same to me. She's extremely beautiful. Dorothy and Vanessa. She's hot. Well, I'm assuming that's what it is, right? Dorothy and Vanessa both are Bard Plymouth. Vanessa's got like an angry brow. She walks around.
Starting point is 01:58:17 And all her sons do too. That's crazy. Yeah, so when you look at it, we have a bunch of Black Star boys. That's when you breed the Rhode Island Red with the Plymouth. The Bard Rock. So the boys, you can tell which one's Dorothy's and which one's Vanessa's because of the angry eyes. But Dorothy's got like big round eyes. She was,
Starting point is 01:58:34 we had to lock her up because she was getting hurt. And then one day she accidentally got out and immediately the boys ran over and just were like, they wanted her, man. She's got those two pheromones. I don't know, man. Maybe the roosters were like, yo, look at her butt feathers.
Starting point is 01:58:50 Maybe we should have a chicken beauty pageant and then she can hand down the crown and then they'll all know who to be attracted to next. We had to separate her from the boys because they were injuring her. Protective custody. That's crazy. She's got a lot of kids, though.
Starting point is 01:59:03 Yep, no kidding. Yeah, they're huge, too. Vanessa's sons are nasty. They're massive, and they're really angry and mean. That's why I'm like, I want to eat them. You know? They're food now. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:59:14 Arrogant little pricks. Mm-hmm. All right, let's grab a couple more superchats. MTH says they're going to memory hole that Biden photo from last night. People are sharing it everywhere, but it's surprisingly hard to find through Google. It is actually hard to find through Google. You search for a bunch of terms and they give you similar ones, but they're different. Download and save it now, then put it on your family Christmas card.
Starting point is 01:59:34 We got it all on Instagram. Unless they ban it, I guess. Joe Rogan's got it on Instagram. This is my point. Google's banning it, but it's everywhere. They're trying to stop it, but they can't. Matthew says, Tim, look at the NCLA discovery.
Starting point is 01:59:47 Pretty sad. What is that? I don't know. I have no idea. The Masternator says, does Tim root against Peter Griffin when he fights the giant chicken? No.
Starting point is 01:59:59 I think they're both responsible. Murph's Kick says, Tim, let me make Roberto Jr. some Jordans. Seriously, check my IG, brother. Okay. You're going to make Jordans for our rooster? That sounds amazing. Okay.
Starting point is 02:00:14 Awesome. Sounds good. My friends, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button? Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. Become a member at timcast.com to support our work. And you've got to check out the Cast Castle show. New episodes Tuesday at seven. We had Marjorie Taylor
Starting point is 02:00:29 Green playing Magic the Gathering, and it's a really funny episode. And then we've got a four part series coming out starting next week. This is going to be, what does that make it out to, like an hour long total? No, it's going to be like an hour and 20 minutes, the whole arc when it's done. And there's going to be multiple cameos in it No, it's going to be like an hour and 20 minutes, the whole arc when it's done. And there's going to be multiple cameos in it. And it's going to be, it's really funny and spicy. I'll just put it that way. So check it out.
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Starting point is 02:01:44 great actors that come on and show their stuff. Great to be there. Great to see you. See you next week. Thank you guys all very much for tuning in on this Friday evening. Hopefully you were all chilling hard while we were talking. You guys can follow me on Twitter and Minds.com as Sarah Patchletts as well as SarahPatchletts.me
Starting point is 02:01:59 I think I'll shout this out. I think it's fine to shout out. We have two guest cameos. I think just two. Maybe three actually in the shout out. We have two guest cameos. I think just two. Maybe three, actually, in the next episode. We might have three. Yeah. Robert Davi. Spectacular.
Starting point is 02:02:14 It's an amazing cameo. It's going to be brilliant. So check it out Tuesday at 7 p.m. Thanks for hanging out, and we'll see you all next time. Bye, Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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