Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #615 Mike Lindell Targeted Over IDENTITY THEFT As DOJ Targets Trump Allies w/Devin Nunes

Episode Date: September 15, 2022

Tim, Luke, & Lydia join Devin Nunes & Derek Harvey to discuss Mike Lindell being targeted for involvement in identity theft and property damage case, Hardee's bizarre new promotion mocking the arrest ...of Mike Lindell, Trump's golf course debacle, Ukrainian officials trying to sabotage Trump, and the insane new SAFE-T Act in Illinois. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So the Mike Lindell, the Mike Lindell, no, the FBI read on Mike Lindell. We've got more information. Apparently they're targeting him over damage to a protected computer and identity theft. Sounds a lot like BS. But of course, things have been getting pretty crazy with the FBI at the Washington Bureau. They've been going after Trump. Now it's just getting worse. 40 subpoenas sent to Trump allies, and then we get the Mike Lindell thing.
Starting point is 00:00:27 And so we're going to talk about that, get into great detail about what's happening at the highest levels of politics in this country. And we have another funny story that we talked about the other day having to do with Trump and a secret meeting. And who is at that secret meeting on the golf course with non golf clubs? And we can now formally debunk all of the insane lies that they pushed about this story. So that's going to be fun. And then the big news is that the railway, the rail workers are set to strike on Friday, unless a deal gets approved at last minute. But one of the unions, a couple of, I think maybe the biggest, one of the biggest has rejected the deal that Biden tried brokering. If this strike happens, it is going to impact every level. I mean, long-term trains for transport Amtrak is getting, they're shutting those down. We're going to see $2 billion in
Starting point is 00:01:10 economic damage per day. And this means your goods, stuff you might find at the store won't be there, or at least it'll be delayed. Like, you know, nothing will happen for a few weeks, but then eventually you'll stop seeing the things you like and the prices are going to start going up. So this is big. And it is an apocalyptic scenario for Democrats right before the midterms, because even if it's not Joe Biden's fault and he's trying, the Democrats are trying to do a lot to stop this strike from happening. Voters are just going to say the economy is bad. I'm going to vote for the other guy. Don't forget to head over to Timcast.com, become a member to support our work directly. And as a member, not only are you supporting our team of journalists
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Starting point is 00:02:04 smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends. And joining us today, Devin Nunes. Great to be with you, Tim. Who are you, Devin Nunes? I am a confidential human informant for the FBI and also Moonlight is CEO of True Social. Is that first one true?
Starting point is 00:02:19 We never know. Well, okay. I'm going to assume it's true. I don't know. I mean, there's lots of conspiracy theories going on right now, so I might as well start a new one. I heard you can teleport. That's one thing. Yeah, we'll talk about that later, but yeah. Yeah, he can. That's right. I mean,
Starting point is 00:02:32 the only way you can't teleport, the only way that would be true is if the news was wrong. And they're never wrong, so clearly you can teleport. We also have returning to the show, Derek Harvey. Good to be here. And who are you, sir? Derek Harvey, retired colonel, candidate for Washington County Commissioner.
Starting point is 00:02:52 And I used to work for Devin Nunes as his lead investigator. And he can also teleport. Yes. Absolutely. Good to know. Because there's multiple stories about you guys teleporting. I'm impressed. You guys got to tell me how to do that.
Starting point is 00:03:03 We also have— We even got pictures on our phones of us being in two places at the same time. Well, either that or the media's wrong. We also got Luke Rutkowski. FBI informant, you say? Get away from me there a little bit. My name's Luke Rutkowski of wearechange.org.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Good to be back today. I'm wearing a new representation of Uncle Sam, but instead of Uncle Sam, it is an IRS agent saying, we want your cut of our, we want our cut of your $601 Venmo transaction. If you like the shirt, you could get it on thebestpoliticalshirts.com
Starting point is 00:03:37 because you do. I'm here. Thank you so much for having me. That shirt is awesome. I was telling Luke that I kind of need one of those later on. So I'm excited to get into the news today. Thrilled to have Devin and Daryl. Let's get going.
Starting point is 00:03:47 So the first story we have is an update on what's happening with Mike Lindell. This story was crazy. It broke last night. You know, we're sitting here trying to do this show. I'm trying to talk about Ariel because the new movie, she's black. And there's a big controversy. And then all of a sudden, Luke is like, breaking news. We got to check it out.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Mike Lindell had his phone seized by the FBI. So we have some updates. Postmillennial reports, the search warrant shows Mike Lindell phone seized in identity theft, damage of protected computer investigation. The search warrant for the phone seizure reveals that it was taken over identity theft and damage. Okay, they're just repeating themselves. They say, we know this. Documents posted by Lindell reveal the reported reasoning with a page titled items to be seized, reading that the physical cellular telephone assigned number redacted Lindell cell phone and all
Starting point is 00:04:34 records and information on the Lindell cell phone that constitutes fruits, evidence or instrument instrumentalities of identity theft, as well as intentional damage to a protected computer and or a conspiracy to commit identity theft and or to cause intentional damage to a protected computer. That's just crazy. I was talking to a guy earlier today, regular guy, you know, just a regular guy. And he said, how are they getting away with this? How did they go after what? 40 subpoenas targeting Trump allies.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And I just want to add to that. You'd think, I mean, we're going on what year seven of hoaxes targeting Trump and his allies. How does this keep happening? Why hasn't it stopped? It seems to be getting worse, but we're lucky enough to have, you know, you, Devin and Derek, seemingly the experts on this, on what's going on. So you tell me, man, how do they keep doing this? How are they getting away with it? You know what's interesting about Lindell especially is that he's a brilliant guy. I don't know if he's ever been on your show before, but he's absolutely brilliant.
Starting point is 00:05:36 He's a brilliant marketer and passionate guy, and he's the frickin' MyPillow guy. I mean, he's funny. Everybody knows who he is because he's been on TV for so long. But I will tell you that this actually really happened, so I don't want people to think that I really am an FBI informant. But I was talking to him just in the last, I don't know, about a week ago, and I was laughing because I was actually just trying to get some pointers on True Social because we're beginning advertising.
Starting point is 00:06:07 And I asked him, because he always wants to talk about election issues, which is fine. I mean, he's very passionate about it. And we were talking about the January 6th commission and how I had said, look, what I've said from the very beginning of that is that writing's not okay, breaking in the Capitol's not okay, but where's the 14,000 hours of videotape?
Starting point is 00:06:29 And he tells me, you know that I've never gotten, this is what Mike Liddell told me just a week ago, and I'm paraphrasing, but I've never been contacted by anyone for any of this, for all the stuff that the stuff that he's, that he said out there. So just, he shouldn't have went to that Hardee's, I guess. Hardee's is a bad place to go for that. Well, Tim, trying to answer your question here, the first thing I thought about was in 2017 on MSNBC, Chuck Schumer went on national television and said that the intelligence agencies have quote six waves from Sunday to get back at you. And he was hinting that the intelligence agencies have, quote, six waves from Sunday to get back at you. And he was hinting at the intelligence agencies doing a revenge plot against Donald Trump. Do you think there's some merit to this, especially from your information from the inside that this is the intelligence agencies hitting back against Trump with the battles that were
Starting point is 00:07:20 happening within the White House? Well, they were already weaponized before that. So when Schumer says that, remember, so he probably already knows because it was the Democratic Party Clinton campaign that paid for this whole operation that probably started in 2015. So Schumer probably already knows when he makes that very infamous statement that, you know, of course, is seen by 30, 40 percent of the country, but the rest of the country doesn't know it exists. Also, I would just, what are the things that the FBI has chosen not to do? I mean, they're looking at identity theft and putting resources into that when they didn't touch the Hunter Biden laptop. They didn't look at the thousands of assaults on federal officers in Portland and other places
Starting point is 00:08:05 during 2020. They're pulled back from investigating Chinese financial crimes and ripping off billions of dollars from American individual investors. I mean, one could go on. The Maxwell client list, I could go on too. Sorry, I just needed to interrupt you. Sorry, go ahead. Well, I'm only here because I know that there's one person at this table that's been to epstein island that's correct i have to explain myself very carefully i didn't go as i'm tired of you explaining it so i love introducing luke to people and i'm like he's been to epstein island and then everyone just gives him this look like... Side-eyed. Like, look at this. What was it like? What was it like? Creepy.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Extremely creepy. Very... I was sweating, running around, trying to videotape as much as I could. Very bad juju. Very bad energy. Luke, just to clarify, stormed the island after the fact
Starting point is 00:08:56 to film and document what was there. He was not an invited guest. Yes. An amphibious assault. Yes. That's right. Ran out of there. Got chased out. But you gotta see the look on people's faces when I'm like, Yeah, that's right. Ran out of there. Got chased out.
Starting point is 00:09:05 But you got to see the look on people's faces when I'm like, oh, Luke's been to Epstein Island. It happens at parties. Their face goes blank. The first time you caught me, I was like, yeah, whatever. And then people started looking at me. Anyway. So you're a Democrat. All the Democrats visited there?
Starting point is 00:09:18 Not always. I mean, if you look at a lot of the people, it's bipartisan when it comes to the larger trafficking and extortion operation that was pretty much run by Epstein. A lot of Republicans, a lot of Democrats. I mean, a lot of people intricately involved in our current political system, even Trump appointees that had to resign because of them giving the sweetheart deal to, of course, Epstein and letting him get away for horrible, horrible crimes. And the FBI also most notably was interviewing victims of his all the way in the 90s, and the FBI chose to ignore the victims, not help the victims that were coming forward as police officers, federal agents, prosecutors were all looking away
Starting point is 00:09:58 and essentially aiding and abetting into what was hurting children in unspeakable ways that we can't even describe here on this broadcast. So we have a pattern here. Absolutely. If you look at the gymnastic investigation, that went nowhere too. Exactly. And the client list still wasn't released.
Starting point is 00:10:13 And Ghislaine Maxwell went down for a crime where she had no clients, which is absolutely mind-boggling. She was just trafficking kids into a boat and then kicking it out into the water and just walking away. But we could talk about intelligence agency corruption all day day i think it's interesting to see what's happening from the inside especially from the intelligence committees that's why you know i asked you that
Starting point is 00:10:34 that question how this is playing out what's happening here is what do you think is the motive here is it legitimately investigating a crime or do you think this is something bigger something something more of a conspiracy? Yeah, I don't know how we can get into this right now. Maybe talk about it later too. But we thought at least when we unraveled the Russia hoax at the very beginning, so we're talking 2017 and 18, we thought at that point that we had been able to effectively kind of solder the the wound stop the bleeding you know molar the molar nonsense with heart with um his top lawyer uh andrew weisman
Starting point is 00:11:16 we thought okay we stopped all that bar came in durham came in and i'm sure we'll get to the durham investigation at some point too. But we thought at least the lovebirds were gone, struck, Paige, all of that. And Ray was at least saying the right things, that there'll be some healing period. We're trying to do everything right. He always said the right things. But clearly what has happened is that there has been a Gestapo-like get Trump crew that's been created within the National Security Division of the Department of Justice and the FBI.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And look, we kind of know that now because if you were involved in the Russia hoax, the pre-planning and the implementation in 15 and 16, you now got a promotion and you're at the top levels of the Department of Justice right now. So that really happened. And then, you know, this whole Tebow guy that came out that was escorted out a couple weeks ago, FBI guy.
Starting point is 00:12:13 You know, he what they're doing is they're running it with the National Security Division. And this and this is important for the audience to know. There's a division in there called counterintelligence. And the way the rules and the regs work is within counterintelligence. And the way the rules and the regs work is within counterintelligence, they're able to wall everybody off within the FBI and DAJ. Oh, counterintelligence investigation,
Starting point is 00:12:31 can't talk about it. You know, and that's how they effectively hid a lot of this from us, which we'll probably get into this later. But that's why and why I made the joke at the outset. This is why they brought Danchenko, who was the fake phony Russian source for
Starting point is 00:12:46 the dossier. It's why the FBI brought him in, was to hide him from Congress, hide him from our investigation. You know what your biggest challenge is? There is so much to understand, to unravel everything that's happening, that the average person can't absorb it in a few minutes. Right. That's why I came on your show, because it's like two hours plus. Two hours, so we'll just get a list of names.
Starting point is 00:13:07 We'll go through it. We'll give everyone's bio. Have you ever seen those crazy maps, like the charts? I was just going to say, let's get the bulletin board out there and the prints right now. Epoch Times has like a full-blown poster of this thing with all the players. Wow.
Starting point is 00:13:19 The crime web with the red yarn or whatever. Oh, yeah. It's actually quite good. And it's important to understand, it's not just the FBI here, as you mentioned, but the FBI also influencing the corporate media and large institutions like Wikipedia and the Washington Post that were playing defense for the intelligence agencies, regurgitating everything they were saying, criticizing, attacking you for calling out the clear lies, clearing out.
Starting point is 00:13:41 And then also journalists. I was listed on a Washington Post story as fake Russian news because I didn't believe, I wanted to see evidence of this Russian collusion. I said, okay, if you think that there was Russian collusion, let's present us with some evidence, but we can't believe the intelligence agencies
Starting point is 00:13:58 since of course they lie routinely to the American people. They lied about WMDs. They lied about so many different things that I could mention here. Iran-Contra, we could actually keep going on and on and on. And I was like, there's no reason to believe American people. They lied about WMDs. They lied about so many different things that I could mention here. Iran-Contra, we could actually keep going on and on and on. And I was like, there's no reason to believe these guys. Because of that, I was put on a list. I was ostracized and I was depersoned from Wikipedia
Starting point is 00:14:13 for even asking questions. Well, now what they've become very good at is they just control the whole process. So not too far away from here in the Washington DC Beltway, it's become bigger and bigger and bigger. And Colonel Harvey can tell you that that's been probably the biggest downfall in the Washington, D.C. Beltway, it's become bigger and bigger and bigger. And Colonel Harvey can tell you that that's been probably the biggest downfall.
Starting point is 00:14:29 We created this new superstructure after 9-11. We brought a lot more bureaucracy in, a lot more bureaucrats, and we're so much less focused on actually finding and taking care of hard targets that are definitely a danger to the United States. And everything can now be manipulated. Because remember, the quick answer for everything now is, we're going to have a DNI do a report.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Well, of course, if it's a report that supports the Democrats or the left, it always comes out exactly the way that they want it to come out. And of course, if it's a report that actually goes after the Democrats for their, you know, whatever it may be, like for the Rush Oaks, for example, it took the inspector general two years to come out with this. Then it took Durham to be appointed. And now Durham's had two indictments. And now we're still waiting.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Yeah, there was a New York Times article about that today saying that the Durham report is not going to lead to anything substantial. Do you think the New York Times perspective on it is correct? Or would you question that new article that just came out? I don't know if you're aware of the article. Well, I don't read fake news. And so I actually don't even push the websites, except if they attack me, then I'll evaluate it and see what it is. But look, I've actually, and Colonel Harvey maybe has a different opinion than me, but I've actually been very supportive of the Durham investigation because it's the only investigation that I've seen in my entire two decades that I spent in Washington with zero
Starting point is 00:15:56 leaks. And that gives me quite a bit of confidence. And he's got to a lot of information that we didn't even get to. One of the things, the New York Times gets its information from FBI sources. The FBI uses the New York Times, Washington Post. They put a story out there, and then they use that story in the New York Times to start an investigation. It's amazing, isn't it? Yep, absolutely. And it goes like that. And there's that relationship.
Starting point is 00:16:25 You guys talk about it all the time on the show. You guys talk about narrative building. Oh, yeah, yeah. And it goes like that. And there's that relationship. You guys talk about it all the time on the show. You guys talk about narrative building. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's all it is. It's narrative building. I'm interested to see what happens with the Durham investigation, but I got to be honest, it's taken so long. We haven't seen a whole lot that, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:38 I don't have a lot of faith, but I wonder if maybe the reason we're seeing them go so heavily now after Trump allies, these 40 subpoenas, could it be because they're worried they're running out of time? Well, look, if you want to let's talk about the Mar-a-Lago raid, because, you know, all roads you can keep, you know, keep it simple. All roads basically lead back to Russiagate. I mean, pretty much all roads lead to Russiagate. Right. Even the impeachment hoax on Ukraine was still Russiagate, same players. So if you've had Kash Patel on the show before, so the one thing that we learned throughout our investigation is that the FBI, DOJ, they love to use fake news to go into their affidavits,
Starting point is 00:17:22 into their warrants. Well, the first thing I noticed when I read that affidavit, and the inspector general has said you shouldn't do it, and then when they released the warrant and the affidavit, there was two stories. Essentially, that was all that was, the only thing unredacted were two news stories. Now, I've never seen FBI, DOJ, in all my time ever use a Breitbart story, right?
Starting point is 00:17:44 Because they consider Breitbart to be fake news. But for the first time in my time ever use a Breitbart story, right? Because they consider Breitbart to be fake news. But for the first time in my life, they use Breitbart, right? And in it was Kash Patel. And Kash Patel, they completely take what he says out of context. What he says is that he's seen the intelligence reports relating to the Russia hoax that were declassified and we've never seen. They basically misconstrue that. We don't see everything below it. But what Cash is clearly talking about there is he's talking about the documents that I've seen,
Starting point is 00:18:16 Derek's seen, we've all seen. We didn't see them at Mar-a-Lago. We saw them when we were in Congress or we were at the White House. We saw all those documents. They're supposed to be declassified. They're using that out of context. They're using it to just to play these games. And the other story, of course, was a local news agency that saw some white vans pull into Montego.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Right, saw that, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Moving boxes or something. Yes. Back to Durham real quick, Tim. I worry that Durham is going after people like DeSchenko and a Kleinsmith for false document issues. But he's not going to go after the root of the problem, which is in the FBI itself. The Trump sleeper cell.
Starting point is 00:19:04 It's the National Security Division. Yeah. And their enablers over at the DOJ. How worried should we be? I mean, are we going to see Republicans win in November and then maybe do something about this? Or are they not going to be able to do anything until the executive branch changes? Look, I think for the first time that I've seen,
Starting point is 00:19:22 people are really pissed off out there. I mean, just, you know, I travel across the country and you see it. I mean, people are really pissed off out there. I mean, just, you know, I travel across the country and you see it. I mean, people are really, really concerned and they should be. I mean, I would have never, I can't say that it, that it shocked me that they rated Mar-a-Lago, but man, this is really banana Republic time. I want to, I want to show you guys this story from a daily news. Cause it's kind of silly, but it's also kind of freaky. Hardee's seizes on Mike Lindell's FBI drama to sell pillowy
Starting point is 00:19:51 biscuits. No joke. The fast food chain, what is this? Hardy Har Har. Thanks, Daily News. Fast food chain Hardy's seized on being included in the headlines about alleged confiscation of MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell's cell phone with an ad promoting something the bombastic businessman might enjoy.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Now that you know we exist, you should really try our pillowy biscuits. Lindell, a spirited conspiracy theorist who's worked tirelessly, blah, blah, blah. The point here is we're at the point where fast food chains are making memes of the collapse of our country to sell
Starting point is 00:20:23 fast food. Those biscuits are a little tasteless, in my opinion. But I make jokes, references to gulags, just kind of being sensationalistic and hyperbolic. But am I that far away? I mean, where do you see the road ending with this? Because we see the groundwork being laid down by Hillary Clinton, by Joe Biden, by Kamala Harris, by Congressman Tim Ryan today saying very hyperbolic statements against the MAGA Republicans. Where does this end?
Starting point is 00:20:55 Because I think they just started and I think they're just laying down the groundwork for something very serious that could be very dangerous for everyone. The White House spokesperson said that if you disagree with them, you're an extremist. Yeah. Okay? Yeah. And they are trying to criminalize all political disagreement.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Look, I'm a happy warrior, and so I don't want us to all go out and jump out of the building here. I just think that this is, it is very very serious without question you know we are at a time when when where we've never been in this country and i think if people don't take it seriously which i think they are across the country but i can guarantee you the beltway doesn't understand what's going on they don't understand the anger when you get out to this i mean look you're not very far outside of the swamp. Oh, it's MAGA country here. And you can tell.
Starting point is 00:21:47 I mean, people, I was at an event earlier tonight. I mean, people are scared. People are pissed. And that's what's happening. So you have essentially a split in this country. It's not so much red states, blue states. It's city states versus the rest of America. So it just depends. Like here in Maryland,
Starting point is 00:22:13 you know, it's a blue state largely because Baltimore, right? And the suburbs of Washington, D.C. Everywhere else, red and getting redder. And the same thing is true in my part of California, where I'm from, you know, I'm halfway between L. between LA and San Francisco. So look, I want to be positive. I want to believe in the Constitution. I want to, but you know, clearly, you know, look, I left Congress, you know, not because I, you know, I needed a new job, and Trump didn't need a new company. But it's pretty bad when I got to leave Congress solely because I believe that the communications platforms are so broken that we have no way to get our message out. We can't even communicate with one another.
Starting point is 00:22:48 And we're in the middle of a propaganda war that's destroying this country where it's pushing city-states moving hard left and everybody else moving hard right. And when I say hard right, meaning conservative, where they can't even communicate with one another and we're constantly dealing with fake news. And censorship. when I say hard right, meaning conservative, where they can't even communicate with one another, and we're constantly dealing with fake news. And censorship. I don't even think it's moving hard right. I mean, my politics are basically in the same spot they've always been, except on the Second Amendment. I think for a lot of people, especially people in my situation, it's that the left has just continually gone further and further
Starting point is 00:23:22 left. Elon Musk posted that meme you saw, I'd imagine, where, do you see this one? It's like left and right. And then years later, left to move. But he's staying in the same spot and it's just moving further and further left. The left likes to use that and say, see, this proves it. If you still believe the same things you did 10 years ago, you are conservative.
Starting point is 00:23:40 You're traditionalist. You're not progressive. That's their argument. So they're actually saying, yeah, we agree with that. You are now on the right. It has changed. But I got to tell you, man, what's really scary is I know people that I used to consider friends and they've gone insane.
Starting point is 00:23:56 They've actually gone insane. The things they believe, they believe every hoax from the media. They believe Justice Millett. Whoops, that was a hoax. They believe the Russiagate stuff. They believe hands up, don't shoot. They believe the Ahmaud Ar a hoax they believe the russiagate stuff they believe hands up don't shoot they believe the ahmed arbery story they believe the trayvon martin stuff they believed all of that and even after all of that the covington catholic kids even after all of that is debunked and the media's they still believe it we know those stories are
Starting point is 00:24:20 fake they still believe the lies every day right and they're full of anger is the crazy thing the messages i see on on on facebook you know there's a few people i've known my whole life who still like they're they're very liberal they're very anti-trump but they still talk to me and they still listen to me and they go oh i didn't know that good friends but i know some people that they've gone nuts and i'm wondering if you guys have experienced the same thing like people who've become totally just i don't even want to say trump derangement it's like it's it's right-wing derangement but it's not even that it's if you're outside of the cult they just believe whatever they're told by the media yeah well maybe a good example for you is this so when i when i went when i was elected to congress 2002 2002, Bernie Sanders was in
Starting point is 00:25:08 the house of representatives. A lot of people forgot that, that he was actually a member of the house for a very long time. And I remember a lot of the first votes I'd look up on the screen, you know, there, there's always a lot of votes and, you know, a lot of them are, are a lot of bills that they get, they get through. They don't always become law, but sometimes they're just messaging bills. But you would have something like baseball and apple pie, some feel-good thing, and you'd look up on the screen and there'd be like 20 no votes. Okay, and who are those people? And it would be Bernie Sanders and this hard left-wing caucus.
Starting point is 00:25:44 And it was constantly, they were like, you know, equivalent of backbenchers like you would see in a parliamentary system where they just didn't have any friends. Nobody really took them serious. The Democrats laughed at them, right? Because at that point, I had friends on the other side of the aisle, people that I would talk to, and they, oh, that's the crazy people, you know. And now they're in charge.
Starting point is 00:26:03 They're in charge. They're in charge. And there's not 20 that aren't full-fledged Marxists in one way or another. Or at least they have to pretend that they are. And that's really what this is. It's all about power. It's all about how do you get and keep and hold power. And that's what I saw during my time in Washington. And I got to the point where I knew we were in trouble. And I was one of the first guys to go to Parler and I was one of the first guys to go to Rumble because
Starting point is 00:26:30 I caught the the fake news and the and the social media company shadow banning me so I went to these new platforms because and I and I realized quickly like man I grew like followers like no tomorrow and then of course Parler got nuked by Big Tech. Yeah, crazy. And the rest is history. How is that legal? It was collusion. It had to be some kind of, you know, there's got to be some kind of antitrust action or
Starting point is 00:26:55 something to stop this kind of collusion in the market. Yeah, but then they went to court. I don't know where those cases are now, but you have to go. In many cases, they go to court in their home court. This has even reached the courts. But where's the DOJ and the FBI investigating this and subpoenaing and going in and confiscating cell phones and computers and laptops to build a case to look for the crime? To look for the crime. Well, look, it ultimately ends up with Supreme Court justices,
Starting point is 00:27:25 something leaking unprecedented history, a decision pre leaks out, right, that we still haven't got to the bottom of. And then they're out protesting and threatening Supreme Court justices homes, which should be illegal. When it comes from, you know, all the work you've done, who has more influence and power, the intelligence agencies or big tech social media and do the intelligence agencies affect big tech social media so so remember the intelligence agencies aren't what is is corrupt here it is the the people at the high echelons of the democratic party operandus that are running those intelligence agencies. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:06 So they control all the levers of power. Does that make sense? This is not. It's the Democrats. And the Democrats are then sending messaging to the fake news. Right. Because all the fake news, they'll come out. Boom.
Starting point is 00:28:16 One day, narratives out there over and over again. They pound away. And then. But then what happened with Trump? It's tough to tell with it. But Trump was in office and then the intelligence agencies were working against to tell with it and then trump was in office and then the intelligence agencies were working against him so you know yeah yeah because because he didn't control no that's kind of when a republic we have no we have no power i mean when
Starting point is 00:28:35 republicans get in they can't control it anymore it's like an it's it's because what happens is they put their people in they burrow them them in. Right? You're saying that these intelligence agencies, or at least parts of them, have gone rogue. Well, no, they're just, yeah, they've been recruited. They don't answer to the commander-in-chief, then they've basically gone rogue.
Starting point is 00:28:58 They've recruited and they've promoted and retained people that fit a political narrative, that come from a certain type of school, that think a certain way, that reflect the woke agenda. And in this last Congress, we saw the Democrats trying to push that type of woke recruitment and ideological perspective throughout more of the intelligence agencies, mandating it. And look, part of the reason why is it's hard to get. We talked about city states a little bit ago.
Starting point is 00:29:28 It's hard to get Republicans to say, boy, I'd really like to go make a career and live in Washington, D.C. and burrow myself in, get connected, go to the Brookings Institute, write reports, go work for Congress, become a lobbyist and always working. I mean, Republicans, for the most part, don't want to do that, right? They want to live in rural Maryland, right? Or they want to live in rural America. But just back to the question, who has more power and influence? Well, I would say they're all one, I guess, is the short answer. Yikes.
Starting point is 00:30:01 They're all kind of one. You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. That's something I've been saying for years now and a lot of people don't understand that there really isn't
Starting point is 00:30:08 much of a difference when it comes to the decisions, the major ones that they make. Well, now we're getting evidence in these lawsuits that the federal government was instructing, directing big tech
Starting point is 00:30:18 to censor people they didn't like. Right. And it's been a cascade. We've gotten a little bit here and now it's full swing. Now we've got emails where Alex Berenson,
Starting point is 00:30:26 that's a journalist, right? Yeah. Where they're like, why hasn't he been banned yet, Twitter? And then Twitter's like, okay, and then he gets banned. Dr. Fauci parody accounts got hit because the White House
Starting point is 00:30:35 demanded them to. That's right. That is absolutely crazy. Hey, I think you guys, I might have heard you guys talk about this a bit, but there's some, and this sounds ridiculous
Starting point is 00:30:43 because, you know, but I'm a guy that's been in political business talking about this a bit but there's some and this sounds ridiculous because you know you know but i'm a you know guy that's been in political business and now and now uh you know running through social so i i'm not attuned to this stuff like you guys are but i had never heard of this guy named andrew tate okay yeah i'd never heard of the guy before right i mean until like a few weeks ago and how is it possible it's it's very similar to the parlor thing right where overnight parlor boom gets nuked by 30 40 companies right they get canceled by everyone well the same thing i never heard of xander tate guy but it's so odd that
Starting point is 00:31:19 everybody canceled them like he got nuked from every platform within, what, 48 hours? Yep. It's a collusion. Yeah. They all live in the same area. They all work in the same area. Yes. Emails, processors, website, everything got taken away from him. I want to talk to you guys about the fake news, because this is a really funny story,
Starting point is 00:31:37 and we have the ability to debunk it. We have a story from the Times.co.uk. Quote, just like a mob meeting. What? Trump's curious golf course confabs that's tongues wagging. What was this?
Starting point is 00:31:48 Donald Trump having a secret meeting on a golf course with no golf clubs. I wonder who was at the secret meeting. Well, Newsweek reports something about rumors
Starting point is 00:31:57 that those who joined Trump at the course, of course, were minority leader Kevin McCarthy of Fox News, Sean Hannity, and former congressman
Starting point is 00:32:04 turned CEO of Truth Social, Devin Nunes. Wait a minute. Well, that's just rumors. What about this? Raw story. Correction. A previous version of the story alleged that Devin Nunes, Kevin McCarthy. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:32:16 All right. Well, what about this Daily Dot? You know, the Daily Dot just points out with a tweet. They don't actually state it themselves. He has not been photographed golfing he's photographed with mccarthy nunez eric trusty hannity and others standing in the rain on a golf course with no clubs and no golf shoes apparently that tweet was enough to get raw story to report that it was a fact and for newsweek to run the rumor
Starting point is 00:32:38 that these people were there this would have to mean uh mr nuneunes, that you can, in fact, teleport. Yes. Actually, I'm there. If you look in the tree. See that picture there? In the tree. In the tree. If you just look behind there.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Hiding. Yeah. Right there. Yeah. Yeah. That's me. That's it? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:55 So, see, they were close, but wrong. So, this is funny, because this story went viral. They claimed all these people were there. You weren't there. No. In fact, it was it was so i was actually commuting from california back back east and i was actually headed to washington dc and i had a long delay in dallas at the dallas airport it got you know like everybody's getting
Starting point is 00:33:17 now but i ended up supposed to be there two hours i was there like six hours so you're in dallas um how did you feel when you found out you were actually in dc on a golf course well that's at night all of a sudden my phone blows up with these stories. And then I'm like, what in the hell is this? And then I'm reading and I don't even know what the hell's going on. And I'm trying to get, you know, I'm trying to get on and then I get on the airplane and then I fly and then I don't get into Washington until like, it was actually 2.30 when I landed a.m. And then the next morning, my phone is blowing up. I'm like, what in the hell is this?
Starting point is 00:33:48 So yeah, I was clearly right there in those trees. So I was in Dallas and there at the same time. Well, people need to understand that the issue is if you jumped from Dallas to D.C., then the paladins would track you down, tracing your jump scar. And it would be very dangerous for jumpers like Devin. What's that from? It's from J to D.C., then the paladins would track you down, tracing your jump scar. And, you know, it would be very dangerous for jumpers like Devin. What's that from?
Starting point is 00:34:08 It's from Jumper. Okay, okay. It's a movie about people who can teleport. Yeah. I wonder who got that reference. Hayden Christensen, I think, was in it. He was the main guy, right? I don't know that movie.
Starting point is 00:34:16 I was thinking of the dude from the X-Men that could teleport. Morph? No, no, not Morph. Nightcrawler. Why did I think Morph? Why did I say that? Yeah, he was a good character, by the way. I don't know. He only made it in, like, a couple of the X-Men movies. Nightcrawler? Yeah. no, not Morph. Nightcrawler. Why did I think Morph? Why did I say that? Yeah, he was a good character, by the way. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:25 He only made it in like a couple of the X-Men movies. Nightcrawler? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. His fight scene in X-Men 2 was awesome. Fighting and teleporting at the same time. So this is amazing. But he like disappeared.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Like he's not, he wasn't in the last movies. Is he not in it? They rebooted it. I only saw him like twice. I think he might be, you know, yeah, he's a good character. Are they going to bring him back? I have no idea. Well, did you know Colonel Harvey is like a Nightcrawler too?
Starting point is 00:34:51 That's right, that's right. Because you guys are able to this was a bigger jump. You went from where? From Italy or from where were you? We were meeting dirty Russians and Ukrainians in, where were we? Vienna. We were in Vienna. So, okay. Yes. So the? Vienna We're in Vienna Yes Oh wow
Starting point is 00:35:05 So okay Yes So the media claims you're in Vienna The story's still up by the way You can go to CNN The story's up I'm not making this up You can
Starting point is 00:35:14 And the crazy left believes it Yep It's still up It hasn't been taken down It's blue and on There it is Oh yeah Is this one the Giuliani associate
Starting point is 00:35:23 Willing to tell Congress Nunes met with ex-Ukrainian official To get dirt and biden yep that's the one this is amazing it's amazing these journalists don't bother asking you they just run it i mean i'm saying that more rhetorically i don't know if they literally called you over this but i've dealt with stories what happens is one journalist will write a fake story they'll wait 15 minutes and then redact. They'll stealth edit it. But by then, all the other outlets will have already picked it up and take plausible deniability and say, we weren't. There's no actual malice.
Starting point is 00:35:54 We were just repeating what NBC or what this other outlet said. So we assumed it was true. I would love to go to Vienna, Austria. I've never been there ever. Well, we know this. So this story, actually, so these guys, so I sued CNN, and they skated, right? And so the fake news will report that I lost this lawsuit. But what they do is they use technicalities. And so they got a judge to agree that even though this all occurred and impacted me in Washington, D.C., with intelligence agencies overseas,
Starting point is 00:36:29 and how they got out of it is they said that, no, California law applied, and I didn't do my retraction notice in time. That's how they got out of this. That's why that story is still alive. CNN's California-based? Wow. No.
Starting point is 00:36:41 No. No. Unprecedented, never been done before. You're california a judge ultimately got transferred the case got long story but it got transferred to new york and a and a new york judge democrat appointed judge said for the first time that i know of that california law applies to me even though i was a federal official chairman of the house intelligence committee in washington but that's how they get out of it it's not just just that. It's that the story is that Giuliani associate is willing to tell Congress that you did this.
Starting point is 00:37:10 And they're like, well, that's a factual statement. It doesn't mean it actually happened. It means someone is willing to say it happened. That is, you want to know how it works? I love, I love this. You'll get a story and it'll say source close to Nancy Pelosi's office claims that, you know, she's planning to meet with Vladimir Putin or Donald Trump or something. And then people go, oh, wow, oh, wow. A source close to Nancy Pelosi's office claims that, you know, she's planning to meet with Vladimir Putin or Donald Trump or something.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And then people go, oh, wow, oh, wow, a source close to her office. And the source close to her office is a homeless guy sleeping in the alley. He is close to her office. That was all true. Can't sue him for fake news because literally the truth. And the truth is an affirmative defense. The funny thing about this guy is, though, this guy, these CNN and these reporters. So this is a guy named Parnas. Parnas, Parnas, who,
Starting point is 00:37:47 who, you know, he, he had tried to like, so, so Colonel Harvey was my investigator, right? So when people would have, you know, when they would have things that they want us to look at, and, you know, we would take all comers, right? So Derek would have to meet, meet everyone. Well, this guy came to us and said, Oh, he had all kinds of information. Of course, he didn't have anything. And so Derek met with him a couple times. And then this guy came to us and said, oh, he had all kinds of information. Of course, he didn't have anything. And so Derek met with him a couple of times. And then this guy, he was described by CNN as a wolf in sheep's clothing. So they know he's a he's a liar. He's now in jail, by the way.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Yeah, he's now in jail. And this guy went on and the Democrats would repeat this garbage. Right. About me, about Derek. And and they knew. So when you talk about teleporting, we were in, we were actually, it's kind of funny, and we later were able to say this because I filed it in court,
Starting point is 00:38:32 we were actually in Libya. So what must have happened is they leaked, they knew we were on international travel because we were traveling on behalf of the government, and we were the first delegation. I think someone from HPSI leaked it. Probably so. Adam Schiff's people.
Starting point is 00:38:46 But we were actually in Libya meeting with Haftar, a pretty damn dangerous place. We were in Benghazi. Wow. We were in Benghazi, and these bastards run this story, and they run this story to just dirty us up. And they didn't bother asking you? I don't even remember if they did or not.
Starting point is 00:39:04 I think they asked for an interview. But what I do, after 17, after 2017, when they accused me of being a Russian agent, like if you accuse me of being a Russian agent, like until you retract that story, I don't talk to you. Like I'm not going to talk to them. And with Lev Parnas, I investigated. I looked at all the information,
Starting point is 00:39:23 made a few inquiries over a period of like six weeks because it wasn't constant. It's just intermittent over a period of time because you got a lot of stuff going on. And I came to Devin. I said, this is a dead end. This guy's not trustworthy. And then they released, this is,
Starting point is 00:39:39 I don't know if you guys remember, this is when Schiff released my phone records. That's right. And also John Solomon too, right? Yeah, a bunch of people. He released a bunch of phone numbers. So we couldn't, you know, if you call back in the day, and this is how all members of Congress,
Starting point is 00:39:53 I think if they're doing their job, if somebody calls in, like if you were to call in to your congressman's office today, you know, hopefully you would get a call back within two or three days. And so the poor, so in this case, poor Harvey was, you know, this guy calls in. I tell Harvey to call the guy. And then all of a sudden, you know, these phone records are released as if Harvey's
Starting point is 00:40:13 now done something bad because he's just calling somebody back that had information that said was relevant. That's his job. Yeah. That's crazy that he released the private information of a journalist. Yeah. How about me? His colleague.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Well, yeah, yeah. No, of course, of course. But, you know. Have you had John Solomon on, by the way? Not yet. No, no, no. Not yet. Well, he's great.
Starting point is 00:40:32 How was the trip to Libya, though? Right? That place isn't really known for its international visitors. How would you describe it? It kind of looked like a hellscape. A little surreal. A little surreal. I mean, slavery. It kind of looked like a hellscape. A little surreal. A little surreal. I mean, slavery.
Starting point is 00:40:48 It kind of looked like when we landed there, there was like, well, the Russians were on one side of the airport. Strong start. And then, but it did look like, I thought I saw the devil out there with like a pitchfork and a sign that said, welcome to hell. Now we got the conspiracy. We're working with the Russians.
Starting point is 00:41:03 We really went to Benghazi to work with the Russians. There you go. Hard to hear first. Well, now you're the conspiracy. We're working with the Russians. We really went to Benghazi to work with the Russians. There you go. Heard it here first. Well, now you're admitting it. Yeah, yeah. How did Russia come to be the villain? Is it because of the pipeline? Is it because of Gazprom?
Starting point is 00:41:15 Is it because of Ukraine? Because I certainly think China's a bigger thing. Oh, no, they loved Russia. Okay, so this is the... Everybody asked me, how did you know that the Russia stuff was was nonsense? It was really easy. And of course, the fake news is ignored this the whole time. So in 2013 or 12, 13, 14, the Russians were pushing Obama around.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Remember, I'm on the Intelligence Committee. I worked really closely with with our Eastern European allies like Poland and Romania and others. And remember the Russians, like suddenly they were in Libya doing everything. Suddenly they were in Syria doing things. Suddenly they overtake Crimea with little green men. So I'm involved in all this. And we couldn't get the Obama administration to do a damn thing. They would not do anything to the Russians.
Starting point is 00:42:13 They just wouldn't deal with them. And just for your time, the time reference, this is when the Obama Biden administration are working with the Clinton campaign that begin investigating Trump and Republicans to tie them to Russia. OK, I have no idea that's going on. But in the spring of 2016, I went out and made, which is a really important statement at the time. The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee said, look, the biggest intelligence failure since 9-11 is our failure to understand putin's plans and intentions so this is the biggest intelligence failure since then so i say that at the same time that they are painting us with being some kind of russian agent so you can imagine after the election when they come and say oh the russians were trying to help trump and republic what the hell are you talking about you guys haven't done any damn thing about russia i said this is a lie.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Because I was actually paying attention to what Putin was doing. They weren't. Yeah. Well, Putin was building his sphere of influence and alliance with the Syrian government. But when Barack Obama was in power, there was even serious talks of Barack Obama potentially launching an invasion or an attack on Syria. And then it was General Flynn that came out and actually whistleblowed and talked about how the United States was funding radical Islamists inside of that region. And I think there's been a massive payback against him for that. So there's a lot of also complicated geopolitical maneuvers in all of this.
Starting point is 00:43:39 If you remember, I remember the Russians also intervened and sent their battleships to prevent U.S. warships from being off the coast of Syria, from potentially launching more missile strikes. I remember there was protests there. What do you remember from that time? Because a lot of people thought we were very close to a war with Syria. I think you're actually missing one of the most important uh data points do you remember the time that that obama leaned over before the election when he was running against mitt romney and and at the time he was talking to the russian president which i can't think of his name now
Starting point is 00:44:15 and he said and he's on a hot mic and he says yes tell vladimir till i have to wait till after the election you know or something like that i. I'll have more flexibility. More flexibility. Yeah. I mean, that's the biggest issue. Collusion. Yeah. I love the classification narrative they're doing now because the implication is the president doesn't have the ability to declassify documents unilaterally. And the point I make is imagine the president of the United States meeting with the president of Russia and them saying it's time to negotiate a de-escalation of these nuclear weapons.
Starting point is 00:44:50 And he goes, I wish I could, but I don't have the ability to classify what our weapons are. So I can't tell you it's classified. Sorry. Maybe there's some higher authority in the United States that can tell me what I'm allowed to tell you and then we'll negotiate. That's an insane prospect. Well, that's what we dealt with. I mean, that's why people have to remember in 2017, we knew nearly right away. I just went through the story of how I knew, why I knew. I knew they were full of shit.
Starting point is 00:45:09 But I definitely knew that this was a problem when I found out that the Clinton campaign had paid for this dossier. And you know how long it took? That's crazy. You know how long it took for us to get that out to the public? We knew that for nine months and you couldn't release it no if you remember they were trying to investigate me yeah remember they put me under an ethics investigation remember that they were going after all of my team all of our lawyers everyone so they were looking for any way and remember trump is under investigation by
Starting point is 00:45:41 molar the molar witch hunt crew so i mean they've got an army of G-men, DOJ, with a special counsel authority. I'm sitting there in Congress under investigation because they said I was leaking intelligence. It took us that long to get that information out to the public. And if you go back in time, if you remember that February timeframe of 2018, remember they said, people are going to die if Nunes releases this memo. It's going to be horrible. And then like the next day it came out, oh, this is no big deal, the Clinton campaign. Everybody knew that. They did.
Starting point is 00:46:16 The fake news did know that the Clinton campaign, but none of us knew. The American public didn't know. The attitudes, Tim, is similar to remember Vindman when he was testifying? And he basically said that the interagency... Maybe for the audience, though, Vindman, you've got to make sure. Oh, Vindman was the lieutenant colonel whistleblower, you know, complainer that led to the Ukrainian impeachment issue. And he thought it was so important that the president was possibly betraying
Starting point is 00:46:41 and doing things that the interagency didn't want vindman said that the interagency dictates what the president should be doing that's not the president who determines foreign policy it's the interagency yeah that's crazy do you think that vindman is a useful idiot or do you think he's willfully malicious both both i was gonna say an idiot who's malicious that's crazy the uh he's not smart enough to be like he's not very talented but he's definitely a useful idiot well they wanted him to be the minister of defense for ukraine yeah according to him getting ready for the war but that's what shows you he's a useful idiot those ukrainians they thought here's a dumbass that we can bribe let's tell him that we want him to
Starting point is 00:47:25 be the defense minister. What do you guys think about the Joe Biden, the prosecutor's not fired, that whole thing? I mean, do you guys know stuff that we don't? I've done quite a bit of research into the whole
Starting point is 00:47:41 Ukrainegate scandal, and it really does seem like right now especially with hunter biden's laptop that uh joe biden's involved in illicit business dealings that he's using his son as a proxy that's what it seems like and i have to wonder now with the the billions that are being dumped into ukraine is this joe biden paying good on his debts i knew you were russian asset that's what i was like oh yeah you're repeating russian disinformation that's right yeah i love i just real quick, I love how Politico reported, I think it was in early 2017,
Starting point is 00:48:08 that Ukrainian officials colluded to help the Democrats win the election were embarrassed and scrambling now that Donald Trump won. And then a few years later, one of their reporters said actually that story was Russian disinformation, yet they still haven't retracted the initial report. How can your outlet
Starting point is 00:48:23 simultaneously report both things? Amazing. I mean, look, they haven't retracted that report report. How can your outlet simultaneously report both things? Amazing. I mean, look, they haven't retracted that report, the one that's still up on the screen there. Yeah. A real quick and barisma timeline. I'd just like to run through it real quick for you because I think it matters about the call for firing the prosecutor.
Starting point is 00:48:40 The White House under Obama had a conference with Ukrainian officials in late January. And on the off-site of that conference at the old executive office building, they were addressing corruption, and they asked the state prosecutor representatives there to back off the Burisma investigation. A week later, back in Ukraine, they conducted a raid of the Burisma headquarters and the president of the Burisma company's home. That led to at least eight phone calls over the next 10 days between President by Eric Chiramella to Ukraine, where they put the hammer down saying, we need the investigation of Burisma ended.
Starting point is 00:49:33 They masked it under corruption, saying that the attorney, the state's attorney was corrupt. That's when they threatened to withhold IMF funding. That same prosecutor that they're asking to be fired for corruption had gotten an award from the United States at the end of 2015 for being a stellar prosecutor. Yeah, I mean, look, if we would have, you know, the Hunter Biden laptop, I mean, if you and I and your team here decide tonight that we're just going to start doing crack cocaine, bringing some prostitutes or whatever, the FBI will be knocking on your door tomorrow morning.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Lying on our taxes, lying on the government gun form. Throwing a gun in the garbage outside of a school? Behind a school? That's crazy. Show some guns here, do some crack, and they'll be here in 24 hours. Here's a big story that's almost, what's over five years old now, almost six years old.
Starting point is 00:50:30 From Politico. Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire. You heard it right here from NewsGuard certified Politico. 100. 100. 100. Yes. Check it out.
Starting point is 00:50:42 And they say Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton's allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisors, a Politico investigation found. Kenneth P. Vogel and David Stern. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:04 How is this story still on politico when they later came out i think it was politico eu was reporting from i believe it could be wrong natasha bircher and saying this story was in fact russian disinformation yet it's still up right now and we we derrick and i we know a lot about this this story because we brought this story up over and over and over again during the ukraine impeachment hoax i mean this is one of the stories that proves that it's a hoax the whole the whole first impeachment of trump was a hoax it was i mean they accused trump of what they had done exactly so joe biden i love this we had we had a guest on the show i'll i'll give him the courtesy
Starting point is 00:51:43 of not saying his name but people know who it was. We had this younger guy. He was like an anti-woke guy, and then he went liberal. And we're sitting down, we're talking to him, and I said, Joe Biden, sitting at his meeting. What was it, Luke? Was it Atlantic Council or was it CFR? With Joe Biden talking about the big thing? Yeah, that was CFR.
Starting point is 00:52:01 CFR. Council on Foreign Relations. With Richard Haass, the president of the CFR. Look at this guy. He's like encyclopedia on these meetings. CFR. CFR. Council on Foreign Relations. With Richard Haass, the president of the CFR. Look at this guy. He's like encyclopedia on these meetings. The CFR, bad people. So Joe Biden says, I told them, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting the billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:52:13 And they said, what? You can't. You have no authority. He said, call the president. See what he says. I look at my watch. You got six hours. The prosecutor's not fired.
Starting point is 00:52:20 You're not getting the money. Well, SOB, guy got fired. And I'm like, so an illegal quid pro quo the vice president has no authority to override certified loan guarantees from the u.s government he can't do that he did it they accused trump of doing that trump never asked for anything but this is what joe biden literally did amazing and here he is now sitting as president yeah so donald trump stumbles upon this in my opinion i don't think trump knew all that much about what was going on i think trump saw a twitter video of joe biden
Starting point is 00:52:50 saying this that went viral because the phone call transcript was funny he's like what is this thing you know with biden saying the loans you know why don't you look into that right he didn't even know what he was talking about and then they probably panicked like no we can't have him digging into that impeach impeach it's amazing biden was not running for office at the time. And the media ran with Trump is targeting his rival, rival Joe Biden. The dude's old and not running for office. Nobody thought he would. I think some people speculated he would run, but there was no definitive answer whether he would. But that's the angle they went with. Donald Trump stumbled upon some very serious corruption. And I think people need
Starting point is 00:53:25 to understand this. What's happening in Ukraine, I think, has long been planned. I was there on the ground in the end of 2013. And I think into early, I think it was end of 2013 when the Maidan protests were starting. Then it was a few months later, I had left. They ousted Yanukovych. This was an escalation that had been happening quite a bit. Russia takes Crimea. Donald Trump gets elected. Everything stops. Donald Trump loses. Joe Biden is now president. Russia, conflict, Ukraine starts up again. It's amazing how that happened, how if you just use a modicum of common sense that when Barack Obama is in office, this conflict is escalating. Joe Biden is shaking down this country.
Starting point is 00:54:11 And then when Trump's in, everything stops. Joe Biden is shaking down this country. And it's not just Biden that was shaking it down. Biden was one of the top guys shaking it down. But there's so many of these people in Washington, D.C., that represent these countries. I mean, we don't even know the half of how many people were on the payroll of these people in Washington, D.C. that represent these countries. I mean, we don't even know the half of how many people were on the payroll of these Ukrainians, both Democrats and Republicans. I think Ukraine is what a vassal state of NATO, of the United States. You know, you've got Russia
Starting point is 00:54:38 running the Gazprom pipeline through the country, jacking up the prices into Europe, causing a lot of problems. The U.S. wanted to build the Qatar-Turkey pipeline. Syria said no. The U.S. says, oh, look, lucky us. Bashar al-Assad is facing a civil war, and we just happen to support the other people. It seems very obvious what the whole thing was really about and why they wanted to demonize Russia over China. I wanted to ask you, what did you think about Trump's foreign policy towards Ukraine and Russia? Because you made some assertions about Obama being kind of soft on Russia. What did you think of Trump's job? How did he do it? Because he was also the first president to send lethal weapons to Ukraine, which some people at the time saw as an escalation. Yeah. Well, look, if you look at
Starting point is 00:55:20 what Trump, let's talk about the big picture and back up and then go back to the propaganda. So remember, every time Trump would make a move, they would say, he's an idiot. Oh, I can't believe he said that. This is embarrassing. And a lot of us were sitting back saying, well, wait a second. We've been having these. I would go to these meetings, and I spent a lot of time overseas. I mean, Colonel Harvey was with me at a lot of these meetings.
Starting point is 00:55:47 And we would go meet with some anywhere from our allies to okay people to some really bad people. And I was just glad for the first time because I was always, as a chair of a committee and top Republican, you know, you never want to go. We always kind of had a rule that, you know, the partisanship stops once we leave the country, right? And you try to put forth, you know, good faith effort overseas. So, you know, with Republicans, Democrats, you don't want to be fighting your political conflicts over there. It just makes for confusion. And, you know, I'd sit in those damn meetings. I remember specifically sitting in a meeting with the Germans,
Starting point is 00:56:32 knowing that they were shutting down their nuclear power plants and they were getting ready to put this pipeline, additional pipeline in to be solely relying on Russia. And I was thinking to myself, and I always kick myself sometimes when you think I should have said something, I should have done something. And not that it would have mattered at the time, but I said, you know, I felt like saying, what the hell are you guys doing? You know, and sometimes I'd have little sidebars like, what the hell are you guys doing with this? You guys are shutting down these nuclear power plants. This is crazy.
Starting point is 00:56:57 So when Trump goes over there and says, OK, cut all this bullshit out. Here's what we're going to do. Why are you buying these? Why are you putting this this pipeline why are you shutting down your nuclear power plants you guys are crazy why aren't you putting in the money to nato i mean you know how many times i would go to nato and we'd sit there in these stupid meetings and everybody you know oh you know i can only put in 1.2 i'm supposed to be put in two i mean this has gone on for three or four decades of these guys not putting in their money yeah and so what trump remember like that was just like what he said was not crazy it was actually just common sense but they should be paying and they shouldn't be shutting down their nukes and they shouldn't be buying gas from russia because if you do and the russians decide to
Starting point is 00:57:42 ultimately shut off your gas now what the hell are they going to do? Now they've got a hell of a mess. I mean, this thing could get really bad in Germany, in Europe. This could get really bad if the Russians decide to shut this gas off here in the next two months. It's going to get bad because they're going to use winter as a weapon. But Trump offered American natural gas. You want gas?
Starting point is 00:58:01 We'll provide it to you. He provided Eastern Europeans, especially the Poles, military assistance and, you know, weapon systems and things that the Obama administration had been denying. Built relationships with Romania and other countries. He focused on Russia doing things that the Obama administration didn't do. He was building up NATO and pressuring nato which the democrats accused him of dividing nato and weakening nato but he called him out and he got them to increase funding by 140 billion dollars which still wasn't close to the two percent but it was more than we
Starting point is 00:58:36 had ever gotten right i'm just imagining these nato countries they're like i will gladly pay you tuesday for a missile defense system today and then every week it's just the same thing you know that famous line who was that guy the cheeseburger guy you know was it archie comics we'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a missile defense system today. And then every week it's just the same thing. You know, that famous line, who was that guy? The cheeseburger guy? You know? Was it Archie Comics? So did you agree with Trump's policy?
Starting point is 00:58:55 Did you think he did a good job when it came to navigating Russia, Ukraine, and that situation, the way it's unfolding right now? And more importantly? Yeah, I mean, I think probably the best thing that he did overall was how he dealt with China. I mean, when he said he was going to put in those tariffs, I thought to myself, oh, shit, I've heard this. I've been around Washington, every president, oh, we're going to really get tough on China. And I'll be damned if he didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:59:16 But specifically where we are now, and especially your work on the Intelligence Committee, how dangerous is the current situation that we're in now, especially with this kind of proxy war between the East and the West unfolding in Ukraine right now? It kind of depends on, it's tough to get good analysis out of there, right? Yeah. So look, Russia could do some real damage to Europe this winter. That's a serious issue that we just talked about. Secondly, it kind of depends on what i think the russians are you know have they lost 30 000 50 000 100 000 who knows what the right number is um but you know the russians clearly thought they were going to go in there
Starting point is 00:59:58 march to kiev and that the ukrainians were going to lay down their guns and i will tell you that i mean there's i think number one it's hard for them to no matter how much they censor there's still a lot of young people that they're that really they're conscripts that the russians are relying on but you know they know that they know ukrainians they know each other the ukrainians never want to have the russians back i mean they know what it was like the old i mean you have a lot of the old the guys that are fighting for the Ukrainians right now are guys that were in the Russian military. I mean, you've got guys that are 40, 50, 60 years old
Starting point is 01:00:33 that were brought up and trained by the Soviets that are now running their military operations. The Russians are relying on a lot of conscript. They've lost, look, let's just call it, what do you think? Colonel, they lost 50,000 probably for sure? Probably. That's killed. We're not talking about all casualties, but they've lost a lot.
Starting point is 01:00:51 50,000 would mean what? 200, 250,000 casualties? I'm not sure it's that many given the lethality on the battlefield today. But going back just a minute, the Biden administration basically invited them in to ukraine by pulling closing down the embassy evacuating all americans and just basically saying hey russia you know we're not going to interfere we're not going to do anything we don't want to have any problems take what you want and got out of the way the fact that zielensky and Ukraine fought and the Russians were incompetent created a stalemate and it forced their hand
Starting point is 01:01:29 and the Europeans stepped up to the plate. I'm not sure who led. I'm not sure the Biden administration led on this. They're going to try and take credit for it anyway. But right now, one of the issues that is being talked about is was Russia losing as badly as they are and they've been having some significant setbacks on the ground what would trigger a tactical nuke or something else that
Starting point is 01:01:52 would potentially lead to some other miscalculations i think you'd do it yeah putin putin is you know and i've said this for a long time this is you know i had always been a russian hawk and i would always say that anybody who thought they were going to get along with Putin, I mean, it was a fool's errand. And that goes back to Clinton, George W. Bush, McCain, you name it, all of these guys, senior level, and I always disagreed. Putin is a thug and always will be a thug. You can only deal with him with force. He only understands one thing, force. And so the idea that you would think that now, and now I don't think he's playing with a full deck.
Starting point is 01:02:30 I mean, I didn't think that he would go into Ukraine because I said, why would you do that when you already know how to use the little green men? You can do this by attrition. So clearly he's starting to, he's a brilliant guy, very dangerous, but he's getting, something's not right there. And now, you know, what the colonel said, I mean, this guy could use tactical nukes.
Starting point is 01:02:50 I mean, I don't, people, I mean, he's not going to let the rest of his guys get annihilated in Ukraine. And he's not going to lose. That's true. And people need to understand too, that when many people imagine nuclear weapons, they imagine megaton bombs and these massive ICBMs and MIRVs and things like that. He could be using nuclear artillery. They could use a low yield, relatively, nuclear bomb that just decimates the central Kiev.
Starting point is 01:03:12 What would happen to the morale of the Ukrainian soldiers if Putin were to fire a nuke? I think people would drop their guns and run full speed because what do you do at that level of war? And that could eventually lead to, I don't know, Ukraine become, I don't believe that it would result necessarily in mutually assured destruction. If Putin targets Ukrainian strategic locations, military, and there's some fear that he'll use nuclear power plants as standing nuclear weapons, if he targets them and uses lower yield weapons, I don't see NATO or the West responding with larger yield bombs against Russia. Well, Putin does not want Ukraine to exist if Russia does not own it.
Starting point is 01:03:54 He'd like it to be a wasteland. Well, I think it's also important because there's a lot of energy being found, especially in the southern part, especially by Odessa that the Russians want to control. And that's why they concentrated a lot of their forces, a lot of their troops on the southern, because they don't want Ukraine to become a petrostate. Because if Ukraine becomes a petrostate, Russia is absolutely defeated and screwed over in the long term in their trajectory.
Starting point is 01:04:20 And I think there's a lot of interest here. There's a lot of energy. There's a lot of policy. There's a lot of history here. There's a lot of energy. There's a lot of policy. There's a lot of history here. Fossil fuels are so old. Yeah. Let's get with it. Let's get with the Biden administration.
Starting point is 01:04:31 It's old news. Fossil fuels. Nuclear power. Are they doing that? I'll take some new plants. Yeah. I think it's far more complicated, but I think the situation is so dangerous. And I see so much escalation and no real push for de-escalation or peace talks, and I think it's such a complicated
Starting point is 01:04:48 thing. There's no easy answer here, but to me, this is just absolutely reckless on so many levels. You know, I asked Luke this the other day. You guys seem a little upset about this. Have you considered owning nothing and being happy? No? No? No, not at all.
Starting point is 01:05:01 No one own nothing? Never. No great reset for you? No looking forward to just letting them take all your belongings? If I was going to do that, I'd go and become a Franciscan priest. It seems like that's the way things are going. And it makes me wonder about if there is an agenda towards a great reset. I mean, Klaus Schwab wrote a book about it.
Starting point is 01:05:22 To what extent does the dude actually have the ability and the power to implement something like that? Speaking of resets, you're from Illinois, right? Yes. Illinois' new safety act. Yeah, funny name. Where you can't even protect your own property. You know, trespassers can come in and camp on your property on your front porch and the police will not do anything. Yeah. I mean, what is going on? They're attacking property rights, values across the board in Illinois. You will own nothing and you will be happy. See, this is a good point. The SAFE-T Act. You heard about this?
Starting point is 01:05:54 They're saying, as you said, the police won't respond to trespassers on your property. And they're going to eliminate cash bail for most criminal offenders. Murder. Even murder. Okay, but you guys realize you're talking to a guy who's from California. You're like, hold my beer. Chicago's pretty good. It's already happened here.
Starting point is 01:06:13 I mean, I can go on and on. You're like, oh, the good old days. Don't let them do it to you, too. But this is another example. This is Chicago and the suburbs dictating to the rest of the state. Well, look, I mean, we have, I always tell the story about people who haven't been to California recently. You see the pictures of the homeless, you see the pictures of the nuttiness in San Francisco,
Starting point is 01:06:37 and you see the pictures in LA and all the popular places. But those places have always had homeless people. It's just that they're 10 or 15x. Where you didn't have homeless people were in the rest of the state. Or if you did, they were kind of your traditional hobo. You have onesies, twosies, five, maybe. Well, let's real quick, let's break this down.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Hobo means homeward bound. And it's a reference to people moving. Right. So they might be sleeping outside, but they're leaving. Vagrants, I think, are just derelict individuals who mill about. Vagabonds are travelers. And then a bum, I think, is somebody who doesn't work. So we've got to make sure we get those terms right.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Right, but that's traditionally what you had, hobos. But you just had a few, a few of each one of that category. You just said, you know, like in my home city, you know, 65,000 people. And, you know, you just have a handful of people. You know, the police go out there, work with them, and churches would take care of them. And so I always tell people this. It was not that long ago. It was, I think it was 2015. I have a church across the street from my house.
Starting point is 01:07:44 And there were two homeless people that started living out there. But that was it. There was no—in the whole city, that was the only ones. I mean, there were a handful of others that people were in and out of homes. There was places that they could get to. And I remember all my neighbors saying, oh, my God, these people are living right there across the street. And people were shocked. And they went to the church and said, look, you can't have these people living across the street.
Starting point is 01:08:08 And the church says, well, look, we're a home for, you know, we're a church, so we've got to help these people. Well, then the two turned into six, and the six turned into 12. And then the church said, no solicitation. So homeless people were gone from the church. But they didn't go very far. And now in my home city, 65,000 people, what started with just a handful of homeless, we now have estimated somewhere between 500 and 700 in my home city. But that's in every single city across California.
Starting point is 01:08:44 So I call it, it's like zombie apocalypse. We are welcoming all these people here. They have their own governments. And so it's like Stockholm syndrome, right? I remember how I just gave the story, 2015, everybody's, oh my God, there's two homeless people across the street. To now, there's zombies everywhere and nobody does anything. I mean, I've got literally, football filled away for me. Where I live, we've got a whole homeless encampment. I mean, I can't, my kids, my girls can't walk over to the little market, mini market, because they've got to go through a homeless camp.
Starting point is 01:09:17 So I made this point, I think it was Memorial Day. We went to the movies and there was not a soul in sight. The movie theater was empty. The arcade machines had been removed from it. This is a big shopping center in Frederick. And I'm walking around and I'm looking around and I'm like, where are the people? Nobody's here.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Nobody's out. There's a pool hall. It's empty. Where'd everybody go? There's an ice cream shop. Closed. And it said, we're closed due to short staff. And I was like, where are the people? I recently went to what city is it? I can't remember the name of the city. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:45 It's in West Virginia. And there's a diner at noon on a weekend saying closed. Martinsburg. Martinsburg. That's the one. Closed due to short staff. And then I was just like, where is everyone? And then Ian made a good point.
Starting point is 01:09:56 He goes, a lot of more homeless people popping up. And I was like, man, is that what's happening? People aren't working anywhere. They're losing their homes. They can't afford it anymore. And that's why the homeless population is increasing so much. I think at least what you see in California,
Starting point is 01:10:10 and we're getting them from all over the country. And it's really sad because a lot of them are a product of meth, methamphetamines. Oh man, I started watching Breaking Bad. Their minds are all about it now. It's pretty bad. I mean, you feel bad because there's really nothing.
Starting point is 01:10:32 These people are never going to be able to function in life and they just kind of follow. I hate calling them zombies, but I don't really know what else to call them. They just kind of follow and they have leaders. Meth heads. Yeah, but a lot of them aren't even doing meth anymore, I don't think. Crack heads. Yeah, they're just gone. Hunter Bid well heroin fentanyl whatever it is yeah you know we got a big problem across the whole country with this well it's a plague well if you look at homelessness
Starting point is 01:10:54 a lot of it is usually correlated to it not just drug addiction but a mental health crisis and i think that mental health crisis is getting worse and worse especially by the numbers when you look at depression self-harm suicide those numbers have been going up dramatically. How do you deal with this type of situation? And who do we blame? Do we blame big pharma for the opioid epidemic? Do we blame China for the fentanyl that makes it worse? Do we blame the fast food industry that's creating a poor mental health? Do we blame social media that's also creating poor mental health? Do you blame legalization of marijuana across the whole country?
Starting point is 01:11:30 Do you blame, you know, I mean, you could go on down the list, but the drug use across the board contributes significantly to the mental health issues because it does create damage to the brain and the functioning of a good segment of that population. Alcohol, though. I mean, alcohol, I think, is substantially worse than pot.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Yeah. But prohibition didn't work. And we were like, let's repeal that amendment. That didn't make sense. It's funny that we, I'm surprised, you know, learning about American history, that they were actually able to get a constitutional amendment just to get rid of alcohol.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Yeah. That's crazy. I think it's crazy that, you know, marijuana is still illegal in some states, but doctors could prescribe legalized heroin and get people addicted and hooked on for the rest of their lives. That's a problem right there that deserves to be called out. And yes, marijuana is being genetically engineered. There's a whole bunch of Frankenstein marijuana that's really bad, especially for children.
Starting point is 01:12:18 But we can't start with prohibition. It never worked. It never has worked. But there is something to say about how society has failed most people, and most people are now becoming homeless or poor more than ever. Yeah, I think what you say, I mean, all of these issues that we're talking about, all of them to some degree matter. But the challenge that we have in California is that, you know, I always tell people, stop. If you don't want bears, stop feeding the bears, right? I mean, you have to admit you have a problem and stop. And we're getting more and more and more of them.
Starting point is 01:12:55 And there's so many things that have to be done to handle the problem. But it is, I mean, look, nobody, every time I get on a plane, when I left California the other day, before I got stuck in Dallas and then teleported to the secret meeting with President Trump at the golf course, before all that. It could have been your evil twin, though. Could have been. Or good twin. Are you the evil one?
Starting point is 01:13:16 But continue. But every time I fly, I get, oh, I used to, hey, you used to be my congressman back in the day. But, you know, I left to Texas like five years ago or three years ago. I mean, every time it's people that still have business in California or whatever, but they've moved their headquarters to a different state. Wow. Well, the exodus is happening in Illinois too. Maybe it's a self-correcting problem.
Starting point is 01:13:38 You let them run amok and go crazy for long enough and people are just going to be like, I'm out. How long before Illinois goes bankrupt? I don't know. How long? I mean, can the state go bankrupt? Well, Biden will give them money. He'll find a way. They'll find a way to just pump money into the system
Starting point is 01:13:52 and keep the zombie state hopping along. Well, remember in California, we're going to be all green, right? Yet we're not building any new ways to produce power in mass. In fact, we shut down a nuclear power plant. We were talking about nuclear a few minutes ago.
Starting point is 01:14:08 And then we were going to shut down our last two reactors that are still supplying 10% of our power. So I don't know if everybody's paying attention, but you couldn't charge your car the other night. If you were in California, and the governor sent a message to everybody's phone saying, turn off your power now. Did you see the Colorado when the thermostats couldn't be changed? Oh, no, I didn't see that. Energy crisis, your thermostat's stuck at 78. Well, that's if you sign up for that program, right? But people, this is the thing.
Starting point is 01:14:32 They come to you and they say, do you want to sign up for our Smart Saver program? It's $100 off your bill per year. Sure. Sounds good. Alright, have a nice day. And then all of a sudden you can't change your thermostat. It's not like people knew they were signing up for that. Yeah. But now they, until they feel pain so now newsom wants to run for president he feels pain there's we're on the verge of blackouts all the time
Starting point is 01:14:54 and it's not just because of you know everybody's oh my god it's global warm it's like no you idiots it always gets hot in california during the summer i mean it's not unusual for there to be you know big spikes in in temperature it doesn't unusual for there to be, you know, big spikes in temperature. It doesn't happen in Florida. I'll tell you, you know what it is? You're right, it doesn't. I was in California during the drought in like 2015 and ain't nobody stopped showering.
Starting point is 01:15:13 They were like, everybody, you got to limit your water use. And I knew people who were like, yeah, but not me. And that was the mentality of almost every single person. They were all running their long, hot showers being like, I don't care. Yeah, but the drought is, so now you're getting into my wheelhouse now it's how i actually got in politics was because of this crazy water issue so you realize that like la san francisco is actually a desert
Starting point is 01:15:34 nobody thinks of it as a desert san francisco san francisco is a desert but what the delta water is what keeps it alive no what keeps it alive actually No. What keeps it alive actually was the founding fathers of the city realized they needed some really fresh, good, clean water. They went into Yosemite National Park, dammed up a valley not as big as Yosemite Valley,
Starting point is 01:15:54 but one that was a small mirror image of it just over the mountain range. They dammed it up. It's a dam called Hetch Hetchy. They dammed it up. They piped the water. Sorry, how do you spell that?
Starting point is 01:16:03 Hetch Hetchy. H-E-T-C-H. Easy enough. Yep. Oh, Hetch, Hetchy. Let's pull up the map. Continue, continue. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:16:15 Yeah, so if you keep that map up. So back around the turn of the century, I'm talking about 1900 now, the city of San Francisco figured out, hell, we don't have any water here. We got to do something because you can't drink the salt water in the bay, right? Yeah. So they built that dam, created that lake,
Starting point is 01:16:33 and they pipe the water all the way over to San Francisco. All right? That's where San Francisco gets its water. Wow. Now, as the rest of the state developed, all these water projects were built, and there's actually plenty of water in the state. You just have to move it around.
Starting point is 01:16:49 You have to keep it in the wet years, and you have to move it around because it's not uncommon for California to go through. Everybody says, like you said, there was a drought in 15. We have droughts all the time. It's a desert. LA is a desert. Yeah, you'll have two wet years. You'll have four dry years. You'll have, you'll have two wet, wet years. You'll have four dry years. You have one wet year. But, but my point to say all this is that, is it, this is a man made created crisis. Like the people of California knew that like when we had people
Starting point is 01:17:17 with brains, they knew, Hey, we better build some nuclear power plants. If we're going to have 40 million people living here, we better build nuclear power plants. Clean, easy, they work. And in fact, the last, what I was saying about Payne, Newsom now, after Republicans, the few Republicans that are left, including our delegation said, idiot, you're going to run the state out of power. He finally acquiesced and said, I'm going to come in and save the nuclear power plant. Not talking about how he was the one that was going to shut it down in the first place. And the same thing as water. Until people run out of water,
Starting point is 01:17:48 and to what you said, Tim, that they actually don't have any water coming out of the tap. I've seen it. There won't be any pain. Nobody will pay the price, and they won't change their methods of operation. They just leave. Well, the conservative people leave.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Well, everybody does, even the liberal people. The liberal people vote for policies and vote for people like Newsom, burn it to the ground, and then go, this sucks, I'm leaving. I'm going to Montana. I'm going to Utah. Then they bring their policies with them. And then it happens all over again. It's a cultural problem. A lot of this, everything I think we're facing is all cultural issues.
Starting point is 01:18:21 There is a sect of people right now, and it's mostly the Democrats, the Biden supporters. They only care about saying what is socially acceptable. So of course, they repeat what they see on TV. They believe every single hoax, and they vote for policies that destroy everything. So long as the mob, they agree with the mob, they're content to just watch everything burn. These people, you know, I feel like they've always been here. They've always been around. But with social media, they've been trapped in a spiral where they're all just chasing each other. It's a Mexican standoff of cancel culture.
Starting point is 01:18:53 So you have people who are brave enough to be like, I don't agree with that. I'm not going to agree with that. And then they get mad at you saying, you're not agreeing with the consensus reality. So you're a bad guy. You're an extremist. Exactly. That's the White House. You're an extremist. Exactly. That's the White House. You're an extremist.
Starting point is 01:19:07 So what ends up happening is they say the acceptable thing is that nuclear power is bad. The acceptable thing is that coal power plants are bad. Then you end up with no power. Doesn't matter. They said right thing. Good thing was said. Therefore, we good.
Starting point is 01:19:19 Then the grid collapses. Everyone suffers and they flee to your state and they say the exact things, one by one, just gutting and destroying. That's what I'm worried about with Texas. Look, mad respect to Joe Rogan. You know, he recently said, vote Republican. Did you guys hear this? When they were like, what do you tell these people whose businesses were shut down? And he's like, vote Republican, and they laugh.
Starting point is 01:19:40 And people point out it's good that Joe moved to Texas, you know, because he opposes that stuff. But what people don't understand is that Joe moved to Texas, you know, because he opposes that stuff. But what people don't understand is that Joe is surrounded by wealth and industry. And the people who will follow him for him and not for politics, for political reasons, are going to bring liberal policies. Elon Musk brings the gigafactory to, I think, to Austin. And everyone's like, oh, that's great. Elon Musk, he's fleeing California. Who?
Starting point is 01:20:03 And it's like, and all of the people who lived in California working for him, two to one, it's Democrats. It's liberal voters coming to Texas. Now, I think there still is good news because it seems like more anti-woke, anti-cult people are moving to Texas, and it's going to help keep the state red. And you have the Rio Grande Valley, which has turned red. So I think it'll be okay. And that will
Starting point is 01:20:25 actually dilute the cults. That was one of the things I was going to, I think the Mexican vote in this country, and I specifically say, you could actually use the kind of the larger term Hispanic, but it's really the Mexican vote that's in Texas and California, Arizona, those places. If that vote actually begins to shift, and it doesn't have to shift very much. And if you remember in 2016, when Trump won, remember the fake news had created this whole narrative that Trump was going to get rid of all the Hispanics. They were all going to be kicked out of the country. Remember that? Yeah, but he posted a Taco Bowl picture. I didn't believe it for a second. Well, but a lot of people did. I mean, it was kind of a hard time because I felt bad, like small kids that my wife's a school teacher.
Starting point is 01:21:08 And I remember hearing the stories about little kids who actually thought that they were going to, you know, that Trump was going to come and get them and send them back, even though they were born in the United States. But that's the kind of damage you talk about that this can do to young people and these images. But do you know that in the only growth area that I saw in the electorate in California in 18 and in 20 was with Mexican-American voters? If you were a working Mexican-American, those people, and actually working anyone- They're moving Republican. They're shifting, not quickly, but they're shifting. We saw it on the Rio Grande Valley. Where you're not shifting, anybody who's college educated, doesn't matter what color, what letter you use as your pronouns, you are going to be, you're shifting left. Well, one of the things on the exodus, the governor of New York says, hey, Republicans, leave New York. Get out of here.
Starting point is 01:22:01 We don't want you here. Yeah, that was amazing. In Florida, there's now an 800,000 Republican voter advantage, and it used to be the other way around. Well, us and Rumble, we're in Sarasota, Florida, the new free speech
Starting point is 01:22:16 capital. True Social's in Florida. Sarasota, so is Rumble. Tim Kass should move down to Sarasota, Florida. That's what I've been telling Tim. I visited Sarasota. I visited the headquarters at Rumble. I was like, this is aasota, Florida. That's what I've been telling Tim. I visited Sarasota. I visited the headquarters at Rumble. I was like, this is a great place, Tim. All right, all right. Yeah, you guys should move there.
Starting point is 01:22:30 We'll need a... That'd be fun. Then I could come on the show all the time. We would need, if the city can provide some kind of like grant so that we can relocate 30 plus employees and build new infrastructure, we otherwise...
Starting point is 01:22:41 And tax incentives. We'll just talk to, you know, Ron. It'll be like, hey, Ron, hook it up. DeSantis. The weather, man. This is the problem. It's not that bad. It's not that bad.
Starting point is 01:22:51 I lived in the Redlands. No income tax. You lived in the Redlands. No individual income tax. Yes. You lived deep inside of the thing. You got to be by the beach where the breeze is. It's cool.
Starting point is 01:22:59 It's fun. It's great. It's 100 degrees of maximum humidity all the time. No. Miami, yes. Air conditioning. Sarasota's beautiful i loved it there i thought the same thing so you know when i was in dc like california gets hot where i'm from i'm from the big agricultural valley and i mean we're getting 105 you know we got 111 the other day and but i've never been hotter outside of when i was in iraq a few times which colonel harvey lived there for five or six years so he can at least he can tell you about real hot
Starting point is 01:23:30 but but in dc i mean if it would be in the 90s 95 with that nasty humidity with no breeze and like that's what you'll see sometimes in miami but i bet you're exactly right i just think i've been shocked at how, even when I thought, oh man, the humidity's going to suck in Sarasota, but there's always like this breeze that comes off the Gulf. Yeah, it's amazing. We shouldn't be talking about Sarasota because
Starting point is 01:23:55 we're going to have too many people. Too many people are going to move to Sarasota. And they're already moving in. I talked to some locals that live there. They're like, everyone's moving in. Everyone's taking all the properties. All those damn yuppies are coming in here hey i'll tell you what we'll build you a studio in our office okay every state oh go ahead average high in january is 72 oh that's perfect the average high in april may is 82 then 87 90 in june 91 in july 91 in august 90 in september 86 in august that's not that's not that different than here.
Starting point is 01:24:25 That's very different from here. The average high in January here is like 35. I still, I'm a big Florida man. I love Florida. I'm very biased in my love affair. Politically, I like Florida. We're just throwing stuff at the wall.
Starting point is 01:24:42 It's a battleground state. It's a purple state. It can go either way. We need all the resources down in Florida. You're saying we should build a winter cast castle? Exactly. So just in October. So in, was it?
Starting point is 01:24:54 Oh, I don't even have December pulled up. I can teleport, but you can mind read. Yeah. That's exactly what I was going to say. So November to February is what we're based in Florida. And then we come back. Exactly. And then you detoxify. You sweat out all the toxins from your body.
Starting point is 01:25:06 I sweat every single day skating. Luke, we're skating out there today. And I'm covered in sweat, and Luke's sitting there hunched over eating a stromboli with pepperoni. I was doing pull-ups right before that. I did a little working out today, so I'm really glad about that. He came out with a balance board, and then he pulled out a stromboli and just slouched it down. And I was working out in the gym. You can check this every on the cameras.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Anyway, not going too personal because we've got to do super chats really. We're three minutes away from super chats. And I wanted to ask you so many questions. I have a list of questions I really want to ask you. You've got to go to Sarasota, and then we'll just do it from there. Right here, right now. I really want to talk about the Intelligence Committee because I hear so many rumors just about being a part of this kind of committee. I'm hearing about people being scared of losing their clearances.
Starting point is 01:25:52 I heard even Dianne Feinstein in 2014 talked about how the CIA was spying on this committee. How was it being a part of this committee? What was going on? Can you tell us your experiences? Were you being spied on? What was going on on the inside? You know, I actually had the, I'm probably the only person or very few people on the planet who can actually say this. I went from the very best job in the world. And within a matter of just a few months to the very worst job in the world. Okay, so I was having, you know, it was tough work, but it was rewarding work.
Starting point is 01:26:33 You get to work with patriots like Colonel Harvey. A lot of the folks I worked with, it was very bipartisan. You never heard from the House Intelligence Committee until you got to the point of, you know, if there was a terrorist attack or got to the point of you know if there was a terrorist attack or some international issue because you know people didn't even really want to serve on the intelligence committee because it was hard work you had to do a lot if you actually took it seriously you had to do a lot of a lot of travel it wasn't to great places you know except when harvey and i were in vienna that one time yeah yeah yeah but so but then overnight trump wins and then they turn it into that you know everybody's a
Starting point is 01:27:08 russian agent everybody's russian disinformation so it went from the best job to the to the worst job i mean i went under you know because i had to sit there and take all their bullshit for year after year i mean look i'm still i'm not even congress in congress anymore and i mean look they're still attacking you know my former staff i mean cash patel mean, they put them in a damn warrant the other day with this, you know, that story that we were talking about, about what I bought was he's the Breitbart story that he was in. So,
Starting point is 01:27:32 yeah, I mean, and there's still, I mean, every day, this, this, it's like,
Starting point is 01:27:34 they put you in a story about a secret meeting with Donald Trump on a golf course. Yeah. Was there, was there any more retribution that you faced for speaking out against what you knew was wrong and what you were right all along about? I mean, look, there's still you have I mean, look, this is that this is I was getting, you know, why did I leave? Why did I leave Congress? It's because the flow, the free flow of information, the internet is shut down. We're trying to create a beachhead to open it
Starting point is 01:28:01 back up. I mean, it's that same in the way that I realized it is, is after the 2020 election, I thought to myself, you know, after, you know, parlor got canceled, all that that we talked about earlier. But another important point is, how could it be that you still had over half of America at that point, according to polls that I'd seen right after the election, that believed that Trump and Republicans had something to do with Russia, they don't know what, but they had something to do with Russia. And that's when I said, oh, my God, like, how did this happen? Like, I spent four years debunking this whole damn thing. It's a total hoax.
Starting point is 01:28:32 And you still had half of America who didn't know about it and who believed. And the Hunter Biden story was censored. And the Hunter Biden story was censored. Yeah. Yeah. Is there anything that you were, you know, a part of the committee that you were able to get information about that you knew everyone else was wrong about other than just the whole Russian gate? Well, other than Harvard. No, China.
Starting point is 01:28:56 We were doing a lot on China, identifying what China was doing in technology, espionage, pushing that China was a real threat, and that was before Trump. Yeah, we ran a long, I mean, actually our China investigation dated back, dated back a long time, and we were, you know, and Colonel Harvey was running that investigation for us. There's a lot there. I mean, China's a big problem, big problem but you know we want to be happy warriors for the rest of the night and not get depressed what did rob ragan say if you want
Starting point is 01:29:29 to be if you want to be depressed go outside and lie down let's uh let's go to super chats if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button give a little tap subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends become a member at timcast.com head over there click the join us button because we're going to have a members-only uncensored show coming up at 11 p.m. tonight. You don't want to miss it, but let's read what y'all have to say. All right. Lior Engelstein says, I'll start off the Super Chats by saying, a government that has created
Starting point is 01:29:57 enough laws that the average citizen breaks 20 federal laws a day is the same as, quote, show me the man and I will tell you the crime. Yes. You see that viral video of the cop where she's like, if you're in front of me, get out of my way. If you don't get out of my way, I'm behind you long enough I can find a reason to get you. It's like, show me the man and I'll show you
Starting point is 01:30:14 the crime. That was a strong bureaucratic Becky there. Well, that's what we used to say about Moeller. The Moeller witch hunt was an investigation in search of a crime. Yeah. Jason D. says, Tim, you mentioned a while back that Michael Graves might come on the show. Any plans for that?
Starting point is 01:30:28 Would be great to hear what he's got to say these days. Oh, yeah, we'll reach out to him. It's been a while. Yeah, he's cool. We'll talk to the crew and see what we got. Dano says,
Starting point is 01:30:39 I am a sub at Timcast and I can't give much, but after the video about schools today, I wanted to support you more to hopefully support that micro school more that you gave to. Thanks, Tim, for all you do. So, yeah, there's a micro school out here. You guys familiar with the concept? Basically what you do is you got a bunch of kids who are homeschooled and you put them in the same place.
Starting point is 01:30:58 The school is based on, instead of a grade classroom, students have grades. So if a student has a sixth grade reading level, but an eighth grade math level, then that's what they have. And then as soon as they finish the tests, they level up. That way the kids can move as quickly or as slowly as they need to. But it's basically get your kids out of the public school system. It's super corrupt. Homeschool your kids. And this is the step up from homeschooling.
Starting point is 01:31:21 It's basically, well, it's the step up from pods. Do you know about pod learning? All the families get their kids together. They hire a tutor. You do that with like, you know, 10 times as many kids. And now you've got a micro school. So I recently made a contribution in the low five figures to help a micro school get started out here. Make sure they have books and the kids can get good learning.
Starting point is 01:31:42 And there's some religious values involved. And I think it's a good idea, especially considering how they're trying to indoctrinate kids at schools i thought it was a it's important thing to do so i dana uh dana i really appreciate the support this was my personal you know contribution just wanted to help these uh these schools and put my money where my mouth is adam noel says i Ian mentioned Jackson, Mississippi last night. I just want to point out their mayor, Chakwe Antar Lamumba, is a self-proclaimed
Starting point is 01:32:09 progressive and socialist. Coincidence? I don't think so. Don't know. Does that have anything to do with them not having water? No idea. Don't know.
Starting point is 01:32:18 No, sorry. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, talking to my normie bro about the midterms, his exact words were to my normie bro about the midterms, his exact words were, wait, it's only the midterms? Biden has two years left?
Starting point is 01:32:29 It got this bad that fast? Yes. Man, I hate to say it. I told you so. John Kirsten says, last two days, no notification on when live started, but got one Monday. WTF, YouTube?
Starting point is 01:32:44 Many such cases what are you gonna do i think i'm sorry guys i think youtube would love to end this show algorithmically they can't just delete it i mean they technically could but it would create a big splash and they try to avoid that so what they do is removing notifications makes it so slightly less and less people will find the show the only problem for YouTube is that we have strong draw and people choose to come and watch this show. So thank you all who do. And y'all share the show.
Starting point is 01:33:12 So when a notification doesn't go out, here's the good news. Y'all can be the notification. So if YouTube wants to put the jam, if they want to jam us up, not put up notifications, even for those who've selected it, all you have to do is take the URL to this video and post it on any social media you can and that will be 10 times more powerful than any notification wait you guys get notifications here yeah luke's i haven't had that for years
Starting point is 01:33:33 luke fredzel says chris cheated ian needs justice free the september 6th prisoners cast castle union is crooked if you guys haven't been watching cast castle there's a funny story arc going on where ian runs for union president but a bunch of uh early ballots come in at 3 a.m and chris ends up winning and so uh yeah brother bro vet says youtube didn't send notices link to the show is bad well there you go y'all still found the show somehow so thanks for for tuning in mount jeeves says they get away with it because the people they look to tell them to vote and wait to be saved instead of organizing well i gotta i gotta uh halt a little bit of that comment because we are uh first of all it's a little too spicy and we are we are two less than two months
Starting point is 01:34:23 away from an election where we actually have prominent MAGA Republicans, America First Republicans, who are set to win. We've got, you know, people like Corey Mills in Florida. We've got people like Carrie Lake, the governor of Arizona. You are so close to tasting a real victory. You should get your friends to go vote. Seriously. Eric Miller says, Tim, I'm hearing due to supply constraints that Congress could deny the railway rights to strike. Could be why JB and the Dems aren't worried.
Starting point is 01:34:52 Yeah, what do you guys think about that? Could they stop the strike from happening? The president has the authority. I think they would. It can delay for a while. I'm not sure how long it is. But like, what if, you know, this is what I never understood. I was told it was like illegal for firefighters or cops to strike.
Starting point is 01:35:07 And I'm like, oh yeah, you could just not show up. Like, what are they going to do if you're like, then I'm out. I quit. This is why I don't like unions. This is why I despise unions. You got a company, right? Let's say it's a thousand people. And what's happening with the company, it's really, really bad. The wages are really bad.
Starting point is 01:35:24 They're not able to feed their families. And they say, you know what? I've had enough. Who's with me? Well, collective bargaining is awesome. All of these people can then just be like, then we're out. We are not going to work and we agree. But now with these union laws, they're like, we can legally stop you from striking.
Starting point is 01:35:39 And I'm like, well, no one's stopping you from quitting. So the collective bargaining is still there. I think the problem with unions is that they actually hinder people's ability to organize properly. People should organize more. I think the Biden administration is the administration of chaos. And I think it's not something that they want to prevent. I think it's something that they want to spur on because it's going to work in their benefit when it comes to the larger destruction of our economy that they have been already engineering. But that's just my opinion.
Starting point is 01:36:05 If they strike, I mean, just let's take my part of California. You know, you have to remember we're an agricultural area. We have living animals, right, that rely on grain imported. I mean, one of the reasons why the United States is such a strong country is because we can feed ourselves. We have more food here than than we can consume but if the food can't move around the country especially when you have living animals that rely on that grain from the midwest you know you could be facing that's just one little example of i mean like you don't have like if the trains don't run for three or four
Starting point is 01:36:40 days within a week we have starving animals in california you don't have the commodities going to the kellogg's factories or perino or others that gets processed into real food remember how crazy they went about the baby food crisis the baby formula crisis i mean you could have that on a large scale i mean there there is no way they can let these and then coal down coal for power and fuel oil we're going to go back to wood. Yes. Well, wood is not a carbon emitter when you burn it. The EPA says wood is natural,
Starting point is 01:37:14 therefore we're not going to regulate it. What? Right. It's not. You know what? I'm going to build a steam engine. I'm going to build a wood-powered steam engine. Generate electricity with wood.
Starting point is 01:37:24 You know, I've been thinking about it. People tell me to get a diesel generator, and I'll be like, you get an engine that spins? Okay, why don't I just build my own steam engine with a piston? I'll just do that. Then I'll power my house with trees. Yeah. What are they going to do about it? Or move to Florida. Well, we got solar, too, so.
Starting point is 01:37:40 But Florida's sunny. Rantmilk says, Tim Pool, would you kindly turn my TV off the next time you steal my spoons so um what is that so they're like you know with shows like this come stalkers and there is there was one person it was one of my favorite they claimed on twitter that i showed up to their house at 2 a.m thousands of miles away from where the studio is and walked in their house and turned their tvs on and it woke up their family and they were really pissed off that it happened and people believed it they they actually like wow i can't i can believe he would do that haha so crazy and i'm like bro i i don't i'm
Starting point is 01:38:14 thousands of miles away from this place why would you believe that i did that because people are insane they want to believe they do augusto mimo she says, as a Libertarian and Ron Paul supporter, I demand an apology and an I told you so rights from conservatives for the Patriot Act, etc. That's correct. A lot of Ron Paul Libertarians were warning Republicans that the powers that they have given themselves
Starting point is 01:38:39 after 9-11 will eventually be used against them. And I think that's what's happening here. I mentioned that. I think we were talking about the creation of the DNI. The one thing that you do have to remember about the Patriot Act, if you look at all the crimes that have been committed recently, it's even worse than the Patriot Act. You have to actually go back 30 years and the creation of the FISA court,
Starting point is 01:39:01 which had nothing to do with that. So it's not even the Patriot Act. It's going all the way back to what was done after the Church Commission in the 1970s and 80s. And Rand Paul and I have talked about this at nauseam. That was a very important commission that revealed a lot. Yeah. And laws were put in.
Starting point is 01:39:17 And now those laws are being broke. From that time, it's not just the ones that were put in after 9-11. You have to go all the way back to, I think it's 78, I think. I was just thinking of something. You know, I'm going to derail totally. But one of the segments we did for two days ago, it's called TikTok is making young girls completely insane. And it's getting hundreds of thousands of hits. It's like going viral on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:39:39 And I'm like, why that one? Why is our segment about TikTok making young girls insane just getting like hundreds's like hundreds of thousands of hits and you know even right now and then i went oh i wonder if it's because youtube doesn't want tick tock to succeed so youtube is actively promoting us ragging on tick tock because it benefits youtube and then i'm like i'll rag on tick tock all day if you do wants to rag on tick tock tick tock's bad absolutely china spying on americans yeah okay we're in agreement there you two prop up my videos well their algorithm is totally different for american children than it is for chinese children and you could see the degradation of our society that's being influenced by these social media programs and it's and it's wild it's more more
Starting point is 01:40:19 promoting timcast segments and ragging on tiktok how about that all right perfect i'm gonna make a tiktok video tomorrow social too and true social of course ginger mc isaac says devon i voted for you also started save the endangered california farmer you were one of my first members thanks for all you did for the beleaguered farmers by the way taxifornia refugee now yeah see another one another another person fled yep yep it's a bummer thank you by the way tom bear says senate intel on both sides help spread this hoax dick burr a drunk hack lady g etc durham has always been a cleaner for the regime see what he did in the bulger intrigues in the ca black sites facts I don't know. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:41:05 We'll see. We'll see what Durham comes up with here. We're getting ready for a trial. Who's facing trial right now? Danchenko. Durham's going to be the prosecutor. He's the guy who was the secret Russian source that was actually a Democrat operative. And a confidential human source.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Yeah, that was the joke. We started out with he's the guy who's now the confidential human source that they hid from us. And Stephen Halper was a confidential human source. And that's, yeah, that was the joke. We started out with, he's the guy who's now the confidential human source that they hid from us. And Stephen Halper was a confidential human source. Aaron Elizabeth says, it's a wish order.
Starting point is 01:41:32 We ordered Trump, but got Devin. JK, love you, man. Connecticut is going red. Don't count us out. We are pissed. Yeah, so the other night we were like,
Starting point is 01:41:41 we're gonna have a big show tomorrow. And then I guess because Trump was in DC, everybody was like trump come on you know and then when when devin shows up they're like oh oh yeah but now i'm gonna be literally disappointed now that the tick tockers are gonna do better than uh than colonel harvey and i yeah but if it was any other day you know robert muir says muir stop letting others define whom you are. To you, people will say whatever they want about you. You can really do about it. It is what it is.
Starting point is 01:42:11 But to yourself, you can always know who you are. Richard Lease says, ask Devin if he thinks Obama is pulling all the strings with these scandals. Yes. Interesting. Oh, that was easy. Yeah. No, I mean, if you look at who's running the White House right now. Susan Rice?
Starting point is 01:42:28 Yeah, it's Susan Rice. And Monaco was involved in the Russia hoax. And you have Jake Sullivan. They were all involved in the Russia hoax. They've all been promoted. Aren't they bringing Podesta back, too? And Podesta's coming back, too. Wow.
Starting point is 01:42:44 Yeah. They just recycle through. I mean, it's all the same people. And speaking of recycling, you look at the number of senior FBI and senior Democratic DOJ officials like Baker who go to Facebook or go to Twitter or go to these other social media companies as senior people. And then they spend some time there and they go back and they
Starting point is 01:43:05 go back into dni or someplace like that there's this relationship and we can't seem to get into it obama even said that he would love to come back as president but not be president but be the person calling all the shots behind the scenes a couple years ago so he's been making statements about this possible reality chris pav says, for anyone else door knocking or with colleagues, talking with colleagues about voting, when the economy and inflation comes up, ask, isn't it crazy
Starting point is 01:43:31 why those in control at DC haven't pushed for a federal minimum wage increase? I think it's a good point. You know, the argument, you have a lot of Democrats talking about all these problems, but they're not actually pursuing what many of the Democrat voters are asking for.
Starting point is 01:43:44 Not that I think it'll solve the problem. I had a voter the other day make the point that the Democrats in Washington, D.C. are doing to their constituents, their policies are undermining and attacking minorities, immigrants of all types, lower income people because of inflation, their tax structures, the IRS. It's going to go after all of them. It's not going to, their policies are going after who they claim to be their base. I mean, look, DC has changed over the, you know, when I first went there.
Starting point is 01:44:16 I mean, it used to be, you know, a city where, you know, you had a large African American population and largely that population has been pushed out, been pushed out into Maryland. And D.C. is like this new – I don't know. It's got to have one of the highest per capita incomes in the country. I mean, there's new apartment numbers. There's cranes everywhere. The construction's never stopped. And essentially, the city has become a place for young, one percenter liberals.
Starting point is 01:44:47 Yeah. All right. Benjamin Dover. Interesting name there, Ben. Mr. Dover, first name Ben. Railroad is going to strike and things will get much, much worse. Food, energy and fuel prices to the moon. Part of me thinks that they will not be able to stop this strike.
Starting point is 01:45:04 And part of me thinks they want the strike to happen. Just with how bad everything's gotten and this idea of the Great Reset, you will own nothing and you will be happy. Artificial scarcity. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they're like, oh, no, a rail strike, and now there's no food anymore. Whoops. Well, what could they come up with?
Starting point is 01:45:22 Because it's a crisis, and they'll take advantage of any crisis to push through new programs and new authorities. Yeah. Well, they're telling farmers in the Netherlands to stop farming
Starting point is 01:45:32 while they're also saying there's going to be a major food shortage because of Ukraine. So something doesn't add up just the way it is. Fire of Destruction says,
Starting point is 01:45:42 Tim, I listen while I drive at work. That said, I love the guests you have on. I also listen to The Quartering, and he said he's trying to pass you in subs in today's episodes. In today's episode. Well, you know, good for him. I don't know what to say about, I don't really pay attention to any of that stuff. I remember, you know, when we started Timcast IRL, I had two other channels that were, you know, had large followings. And if the whole mentality of starting a channel was we have to get more subs, we have to get bigger, I think you would lose what makes a channel actually work. We did the show because we had fun doing it and we just keep doing it.
Starting point is 01:46:18 And subscriber growth slowed down in an off-season year. In primary years, presidential primaries and presidential elections, the subscriber growth is just bonkers because everybody's now wrapped up in politics. So it's going to get crazy for everybody in politics in this coming year. And then 2024 is
Starting point is 01:46:37 going to be insane. 2023, building up to it, is going to be insane. Oh, I know. It's going to be nuts. I mean, the fact that they're already gearing up for the presidential cycle in 2022 is just like yeah and numbers don't matter anymore your subscribers don't matter it's the algorithm that matters and a lot of people go crazy on youtube just chasing these numbers and it's not a healthy lifestyle yeah how many subs does uh does jeremy even have anyway no idea he's got let's see he's got 1.29 million subs oh you know really close yeah cool we like jeremy he's cool dude he uh he gave us a lot of money when we got when we got swatted he was
Starting point is 01:47:13 selling his coffee he was like 500 bucks no i think he gave us more than that didn't he i don't know use multiple channels or something yeah all right all right let's grab some more let's grab some more of a... Musically assured destruction says, will Putin try to force Ukraine to be neutral? This way nobody has it. I mean, I guess a wasteland is neutral, right? Yeah, I don't...
Starting point is 01:47:36 I mean, neutrality isn't what he wants. All right. Iggy the Incubus says, question for Devin. What was the biggest high and low of your time in government? Do you believe that it can still be fixed? If so, how? As bad as the job was there at the end with the Russia hoax, I mean, at least we were able to tell the American people the truth, and at least that's out there. Probably one of my funniest stories in politics was I had a guy, this was when I was first elected.
Starting point is 01:48:18 He called me, called the office, and he said, I have a bear in my backyard, and he's eating the fruit off my trees. I said, well, there's not really much we can do about it. You've got to call Fish and Game, blah, blah, blah. Let us help you. And he said, no, no, no. I want you to come out and kill the bear. So finally, I told one of my district director at the time, I said, would you just go?
Starting point is 01:48:43 Because we thought maybe the guy was just going a little senile because he sounded like he was really old. And he was really old and went out there. He's an old World War II vet. And got it there. The guy was kind of lonely and I'll be damned if the bear wasn't there. And so when we tried to work with all the Fish and Game
Starting point is 01:49:00 Commission, all these people to try to go kill the damn bear. Usually they would capture it and take it off. And so the guy kept calling, kept calling, kept calling. Finally, we just said, okay, screw it. And a couple of guys that I know said, look, we'll just go kill the bear for the guy. And so they went out there to kill the bear. And the guy says, you know, I just like you guys coming out here. And I really don't have any friends.
Starting point is 01:49:23 My wife died. And please don't shoot the bear, but we guys keep coming out and just hang out. Wow. It was a cool story. All right, here's one. Liquid Logic says, can Devin Nunes provide insight
Starting point is 01:49:36 into why Assange was not pardoned by Trump? And will Trump make a commitment to pardon Assange if he runs in 2024? Trump would win in a landslide by winning independents and moderates. Oh, that's it. You know, the Assange if he runs in 2024. Trump would win in a landslide by winning independents and moderates. Oh, that's it. You know, the Assange situation is one that there's just not a lot of information. And I know people are very passionate about it that, you know, on the kind of that front.
Starting point is 01:49:55 But, you know, we just don't. There's so much that is unknown about it, about Assange that, you know, because we, you know, many people, I mean, I think even Sean Hannity went over there, you know, and tried to get him, you know, several prominent people have tried to get Asajj to like, hey, this is your chance. Give us everything you have. And he's never truly came forward with everything that he has. I would ruin his credibility.
Starting point is 01:50:23 No, I realize, but... He couldn't do it. But he's in a... But it's kind of a catch-22 situation because if he doesn't do it, then people are going to say he broke the law. I think it's all BS. I think what...
Starting point is 01:50:38 They go after him like Obama, I think, went after more whistleblowers and journalists under the Espionage Act than I think all other presidents combined, if that's the case. Julian Assange and WikiLeaks, they accepted leaks and they published them. But the New York Times does the exact same thing. The issue is that WikiLeaks was just very effective and it was out of their reach. So at the very least, you can look at what they did with Julian Assange in Sweden.
Starting point is 01:51:01 They first get him locked up under some ridiculous claims about Swedish rape laws or something because a condom broke, which is ridiculous, and then ultimately drop those as soon as the U.S. intervenes. And I think it was, correct me if I'm wrong, Luke, it was Trump that ordered the raid on the Ecuadorian embassy, right? It was under his administration, I believe. I've got to fact-check that to be completely honest with you. My view is that i
Starting point is 01:51:25 think trump wanted to bring assange over here because he knew assange had answers about what was going on and could provide some evidence and testimony assange won't do it because wikipedia won't he wouldn't give up his his credit there was allegedly an offer from the trump administration asking assange to reveal his sources of the the leak And Assange said he wouldn't do that. That's the story allegedly that we heard from a mutual friend of ours. Yep. I'm not sure Trump was involved in any of it. I'm not sure it would get to his level.
Starting point is 01:51:54 It was under his administration. No, I understand. I mean, he's publicly talked about WikiLeaks. This is the conflicting part. He said he loved WikiLeaks. He loved what Julian Assange did. He promoted the leaks, and he came out there on the campaign, and he was like all for it.
Starting point is 01:52:10 And then when he was asked about it later on during his political career, he was like, Julian Assange who? WikiLeaks who? And he acted like he didn't know who they were. So there's a big difference between his later statements and his earlier statements. I don't know a whole lot about the Ross Ulbricht thing. I think you might know more than that. Yes.
Starting point is 01:52:26 That's a big case as well. But people are saying he should be pardoned. He should have been pardoned. Yes, absolutely. FreeRoss.org, I think, has a website detailing that particular circumstance, which also is egregious from my point of view. I think Trump should have pardoned all nonviolent drug offenders who didn't plead down. So it's like people who had varying degrees of piety just meant like we're pardoning all of it.
Starting point is 01:52:50 Yeah, there's a lot of people that definitely deserved pardons, but Kodak Black definitely makes you wonder what was going on there. What do you guys think about the Bannon stuff? You know, the accusations that he was swindling money or whatever from Trump supporters. I mean, look, that was, it's New York that's going after him. Blue State, deep blue. He was already pardoned federally. They didn't seem to ever have a case against him. And I think he's being targeted. I mean, look at how the, look at how, you know, you've got the same people that are going after Trump. You've got the same people that are going after after trump you've got the same people you know and they're doing the same thing in georgia it's the weaponization of the justice system and i mean look if you're going to go after after people for look what what bannon
Starting point is 01:53:36 has said publicly about this over and over again he hasn't hid from it he's been very from what i can tell very transparent about what they were what. You know, look, it's not something that I would do, but it just seems like he's a political target. By this standard, you'd have to be investigating, charging, and bringing to prosecution thousands of these nonprofit people. Thousands. Yeah. But the standard's not being applied across the board it's selective yep dan and s says i will gladly pay you tuesday for a hamburger today is from popeye the character's name is wimpy in the robin williams movie he even sings a song about it oh who knows this stuff
Starting point is 01:54:18 oh the audience knows everything it's the crowd man they really do wimpy is that is that this is crowdsourcing yeah that's right yeah man a lot of people pointing out that they're not getting notifications anymore and uh you know we're working on a mobile app and so i'm just imagining it's going to be great y'all will download the mobile app and then at like 7 55 a little thing and i'll be like we're live in five minutes, come hang out. That would be super cool. As long as you can get on the Google Play Store. Yeah, I think it's fine. We'll see, though.
Starting point is 01:54:51 That's crazy how they do that, though. We're still waiting. We're on the Apple App Store, but we're not on the Google Play Store, even though we have a very family-friendly, clean platform. Just put it on the website. You can put the APQ on your website. We actually have that. Or you can go do it. But if you're under the age of 40, 45, people that have Androids know how to do that.
Starting point is 01:55:10 But if you're like my dad's age, you only know how to use the Google Play Store. Yeah. That's true. It's very complicated. It's attrition. Making it hard enough to hinder you is good enough. Right. Wise guy is a dick says, don't do a steam engine.
Starting point is 01:55:27 Do a wood-powered gasifier. You can use hydrogen gas to power everything. Really? Well, I don't know how that would work. The only thing that I can think of in my mind that I could probably build from scratch is a steam engine. Because it's like a relatively simple thing to build. Granted, I'm not talking about actually like making the metals or anything. But I could like buy the parts,
Starting point is 01:55:49 and I have a general concept of how to make a steam engine. But I don't know what a gasifier is. I actually watched a YouTube video on how to make a steam engine. It's really cool. They had a glass one, and it's like a little Bunsen burner or a little candle, and then it just makes a piston spin a wheel. Good fun stuff, steam engine stuff.
Starting point is 01:56:05 We used to have thousands and thousands of little dams and all these creeks and little rivers you know wisconsin illinois a lot of communities had them they generated electricity just for their small towns they're all gone but if we want to clean energy yeah why don't we do that the water just keeps flowing yep and if you don't have the water, you die anyway. So what will you care about electricity? You got to leave. Oh, but there's probably a minnow there
Starting point is 01:56:29 we need to protect. Yeah, that's what's happening right now in the Delta, right? The fish? Delta smelt. No, that's the smelt. Boops, boops. Yes.
Starting point is 01:56:36 What? Boops, boops. Yes, its species name is Boops Boops. Look it up. Fact check me on it. Boops, boops. I love it. Delta smelt.
Starting point is 01:56:42 Yes, you're welcome. Boops, boops. You're welcome. All right, let's grab some more super chats mission says i'm originally from fresno california they love devon nunez out there he will be missed thank you sir why do people call sanger ca the chankula the chankula always wondered chankula chankula is that it is i can't see it it's the the print it's too small the flip-flop, the chancla. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:07 You know, I don't know. I mean, Sanger is a beautiful little city. Lots of homeless there now, too, just like my home city, but not far from where I live. Oh, yeah. I want to mention real quick, too, before we wrap up. I think we're going to do a car giveaway. We're going to be giving, yeah, we're planning it.
Starting point is 01:57:21 And more information to come soon. It's going to be really fun. Really fun. Yeah, I was thinking about doing an RV giveaway as well. You done with your RV, Luke? Yeah, it'll be good to upgrade. What kind of car? Electric? 2004 Chevy Cobalt with 216,000 miles on it.
Starting point is 01:57:38 Okay, okay, yeah. So we have this, like, so here's what happened. Hey, someone could use it. We were at a car dealer. I don't think it can move, but we were at a car dealership, and we were getting a new work vehicle, and then someone traded it in, and then we looked at it, and it was like, you know,
Starting point is 01:57:53 and then I think my brother was just like, how much do you want for that? And it was like a couple hundred bucks. They were like, I guess, like, trading it in, but there's no real value to it. You can take it now. And so now we have this just ridiculous car for no reason. And then I was like, we should do a giveaway, like a sweepstakes.
Starting point is 01:58:09 And we'll make an ad for it. Because I always see these ads on Facebook where it's like, you could win a Maserati. And so we're going to do like, you could win this car. And it's got 216,000 miles on it. Hey, man. Actually, Colonel Harvey's got several of those. He's like into collecting Cherokee Jeeps.
Starting point is 01:58:25 Yeah, I have a 92, a 96, and a 98 Jeep Cherokee Sports. And one's really nice. I mean, I got it lifted up and, you know, it's good for off-road. Right on. Well, ladies and gentlemen, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com, become a member. We're going to have that members-only show coming up for you about 11 p.m and also if you are ever using spotify you can add our songs will of the people and only ever wanted to your playlists you can follow the show at timcast.io you can follow me at timcast devin do you want to shout anything out hey just thanks
Starting point is 01:58:57 a lot it's been a real pleasure to be out here and we're looking forward to having you down in florida oh yeah yeah thanks for coming man it's been fun been fun. Solar panels, steam engines, whatever you need. Derek, you've been on the show several times, but do you want to shout anything out? You're running for office, too, I think, right? Yeah, I'm running for county commissioner in Washington County, right here where we're at. And if you want to check me out or make a donation online, it's at
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