Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #617 NBC Deletes Tweet Calling Immigrants TRASH After DeSantis BROKE THEIR BRAINS w/Dr Drew

Episode Date: September 20, 2022

Tim, Ian, Luke, & Lydia join Dr. Drew to discuss NBC's insane tweet that called immigrants trash, Martha's Vineyard vast amount of Airbnb properties, & Alex Berenson's huge legal win in the battle against Big Tech censorship. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Ron DeSantis has shattered the minds of these urban liberal types of the media. Let me just tell you very quickly, in the span of 24 hours, we went from Ron DeSantis is effectively putting these people like treating them like it's the Holocaust to we are going to show you just how proud and supportive we are of migrants to calling in the National Guard. And now NBC had to delete a tweet calling these people trash, saying that Ron DeSantis was throwing his trash around. It's the meme, okay? Do you guys remember the gag from Babylon Bee? Ingenious move, Donald Trump supports impeachment, forcing Democrats to oppose. This is what's, it's just, it's true. It's real. It's a thing. I'm surprised. I would like to make one request as we start the show.

Ron DeSantis, you are you are a legend. Good, sir. It was a brilliant move that exposed the hypocrisy of those who vote for failed policies that are causing us harm, damage and economic strife. I just implore that you do it more. Martha's Vineyard is beautiful this time of year. There are tons of empty Airbnbs and summer homes. And if they wanted to, they could pay the $200 to put a family in one of these houses above board, on the level, right through Airbnb. But for some reason, they call the National Garden

and now they're sending these people to a detention center at a military base. Okay, I don't know if it's actually a detention center, but to a military base. That is the warmth these people claim to have for the immigrants. Yeah, well, DeSantis, he certainly exposed that. We're going to talk about that and a bunch of other crazy stories. But first, my friends, head over to TimCast.com and become a member to support our work directly. You guys, you're going to want to watch the members-only show last night with Alex Stein and Ryan Walters and the episode last night with Alex Stein because the dude is hilarious and he did the one chip challenge. We had good fun. Support our work

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share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and more is Dr. Drew. Thank you, guys. Welcome. So glad to be here. Not easy to be here either. Out in the middle of nowhere? your friends joining us tonight to talk about this and more is dr drew thank you guys welcome so glad to be here not easy to be here either out in the middle of nowhere yes middle of nowhere so for those what a privilege oh thanks for coming man we're honored to have you uh who are you uh yeah i'm dr dupinski i did a show for many years called love line uh i'm an internist addictionologist practiced medicine for 40 years and and alongside of that, started doing media. And about, you know, more recently, I'm doing a lot of digital stuff.

I have a streaming show on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, particularly the Wednesday show this group would be interested in. I've been talking to all the people that have been silenced by various other organizations. I just want to hear what they have to say, because many of them are very highly acclaimed professionals, and they were marginalized for no good reason, as far as I can tell. Well, this is actually how I ended up reaching out to you because you got just you got censored on youtube yep and you're dr drew yeah and and you weren't talking about anything off the rails they just robotic it was an algorithm it was an ai thing yeah it's a it's an algorithm just nailed me and

i've been tagged by it before and then then i get the site gets taken down it gets taken out for periods of time but we now have a relationship with a human at youtube and so they told us that the their main concerns were sort of with the therapeutics and they were okay with physicians talking, which has been great because now I've talked to Paul Alexander and Harvey Reich and Peter McCullough and Robert Malone and hear what these guys have to say. And it's helped me put together, you know, during COVID, 90% of the time for the first year, I was like, what is going on here?

What is going on? I could not figure it out. And I'm starting to put it together slowly but surely. It's very culty. Just march in lockstep with whatever the approved narrative is. It was unbelievable.

And Harvey Reich said something this Wednesday at 3 o'clock Pacific time. So do tune in on that if you don't mind. It's drdrew.tv, drdrew.com. I'm sure you guys will put all this stuff up. And we'll get into all this other stuff too. But I talked to Dr. Harvey Reich

and he said it was psychopathic the way physicians behave, sending patients home until they came back with a PO2 of 85. Just go home until you can't breathe. What's PO2? Oxygen saturation. It's like when in the history of medicine, as the proper practice of medicine, we can't do anything, just get out of here. Come back when you can't breathe. That's what they told me. That was insane. And then I called Joe Rogan. And then then he was like you got to talk to a different doctor man like here's the treatment that i did and then sure enough like 12 hours after getting the treatment the monoclonal antibodies which everybody is free and everyone has access to them i i got them

myself too i got very sick with covid the delta and i and i uh got monoclonal antibodies i have a lightened physician working for me and uh you know with me and a great guy and he set them up within three days. While I was getting the infusion, I felt better. Literally, colors got brighter in the room during the monoclonal antibody infusion. I went on Instagram Live and said, listen, everybody, the public health community should be teaching you how to deal with your illness.

Here's something you need to know. This stuff is free. It's available. Everybody was like, oh, it's your special. You got special treatment. It's because you could pay for it. No, it's free. It's available. They had a half, oh, it's your special. You got special treatment. It's because you could pay for it. No, it's free. It's available there. But they had a half a million doses sitting on the shelf back then. We'll get into all this stuff. All right, all right.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We also got Luke hanging out. All right. Physicians talking to each other freely? Blasphemy. We should only trust Dr. Fauci. And, of course, Bill Gates, who's pictured here very lovingly on my T-shirt, saying,

trust us. And if you agree with this message that i'm trying to send you you could get the shirt on the best political shirts.com but i agree with you guys i was here tim when you were going through your thing i was like dude you got to call somebody to get antibodies and there's so many different things that we could get into i'm very excited for this conversation dr drew thank you so much for coming here you better to call than joe rogan i mean he's the he's he's the trusted knows all sees all Also, since we have a real medical doctor here,

it's also important to remind everyone, Bill Gates is not a medical doctor. Just wanted to say that for the record. And of course, Ian has returned.

Hello, everyone. I'm sitting here in Alex Stein's microphone where it still smells like Alex and a chip. Just kidding, Drew. I love you. Love Line changed my life

in my early teens, you know, 11, 12, 13 years old. It means a lot to us. Got to hang out and listen late night about learning about sex from actual experts. It was all and Adam, I guess. He's an expert in his own right. Let's be honest. We used to call it back in the day.

We call it the Gainsburger and the pill. He was the Gainsburger. They wrapped the pill in. It was me. And you get the. It was such a good combo. Get it in that way. Still is.

I also had that monoclonal thing within an hour. I felt better. It's crazy, right? Hey, I want to point this out before we get started. Still is. I also had that monoclonal thing within an hour. I felt better. It's crazy, right? Hey, I want to point this out before we get started. This is my book. You can get it on Amazon, Writing in the Dark. Look at the font. Look at the color.

And this is Klaus Schwab's book that he just released. I released mine 10 years ago. I just love the thought of Klaus Schwab. He's like sitting there reading his Ian book. He's like, this is very good. I want to do this too. Yeah, look at this. Come on, Klaus.

So we're going to work together, me and Klaus, and we're going to help build a new world government, whether you guys like it or not. It's happening. It's just a matter about doing it decentralized. What's that other book? This other book is Gender Queer. This comes up on the show from time to time.

This book was pulled out of Florida schools. I just, real quick, quick, if we showed you what's in this book, we'd probably get taken off. Yeah, there's, I mean, it's very extreme, young kids doing sexual things, and it was in schools.

So there was a big hubba-boo about it. Don't show it. Maybe talk about it on an after show. But I had to get a copy myself just in case they end up trying to digitally retcon this thing. I want it in the print. Smart. I'm Ian Crossland, by the way. What up?

Let's get going. I'm very excited for this evening because, like Ian, I used to listen to Dr. Drew late at night. I had a lot of questions because I was homeschooled. My family was super conservative Christian So a lot of my questions answered by Loveline Well there must be still more Tonight's the night Alright our first story we got this from the Daily Caller

NBC deletes tweet comparing Immigrants to trash I just you know I didn't expect it to go this far so quickly So fast Ron DeSantis sent 50 illegal immigrants to Martha's Vineyard, and it was like a political nuclear bomb. Take a look at this.

NBC tweeted, Florida Governor DeSantis sending asylum seekers to Martha's Vineyard is like, quote, me taking my trash out and just driving to different areas where I live and just throwing my trash there. A founding member of a foundation which helps refugees says. That is not only indicative of NBC News' what they're willing to publish, because they didn't need to choose that quote, but also these NGOs, these nonprofits that claim to help these people, you see what they really think about them.

It reminds me of when that Osborne woman was on The View or whatever. Kelly Osborne. Kelly Osborne. Kelly Osborne. And she was like, if you deport these people, who's going to clean your toilet? And they were like, you remember that? That's what she said, right? Yeah. Specifically, she asked Donald Trump, going against Donald Trump's immigration policy,

quote, who will clean your toilet when you deport? He should have been like, the white woman that I hired to clean my toilet. Next question. Yeah. The Americans. You know, the other thing that people don't know is many refugees from multiple countries, most countries that you come in here as an asylum seeker, you're required to take for a week an anti-helminthic medication that starts with an I.

You're required by the CDC to take that medication for a week. That's interesting. And that's because you're talking about ivermectin. It's because it's a worm stunner? Because worms are so common in many of the asylum seekers that they're required by the CDC to take it for a week. Wait, wait, wait. Really?

So asylum seekers coming in for parasites are given ivermectin? Yes. Wow. Mandatory for a week. Wow. You can look it up on the CDC website. Just look at refugees, the CDC,

CDC refugee therapeutic treatment. Ivermectin is an incredible medication that has saved countless numbers of lives used billions of times and it comes from the soil in Japan

and we could get into this topic we're going to get into this topic a little bit but we're just seeing there it is yeah look at that

all Middle Eastern Asian North African Latin American and Caribbean refugees should receive ivermectin two doses 200 was, was it micrograms per kilogram? Yeah. MCD.

Orally, once a day for two days before departure to the US. That's really interesting. I didn't know that. Well- Required CDC. We got a doctor here, so. There we go. Yeah.

And it's crazy. What are we going to do now? Call it horse medicine and say the CDC is forcing refugees to- One of the things that bothered me with that whole horse medicine thing is every pharmacological agent has a veterinary application why aren't we talking about pepsids a veterinary pepsid it's a veterinary pill you can get over the counter at a pharmacy we talked about this um epinephrine yeah sheep epinephrine is cheaper than the human epinephrine granted the the human epi pens are like single dose instant shots or whatever whereas like you can buy a vial of the sheep stuff but

don't do it do not do it do not take veterinary medication the point is though why this one medicine i i really tried to figure out where it came from i guess one couple tried it and that there were multiple calls to poison control centers asking questions about it. But all I can find is one case. Well, the Rolling Stones did a very big investigative piece about how people in a hospital in Oklahoma were ODing on it so much that, of course, it filled up their emergency rooms, and the whole story was absolutely made up out of nowhere.

The Rolling Stones should be absolutely disgraced with themselves and just run out of town run out of business with the way that they slandered this this medication that has saved so many lives on this journalistic project i mean river blindness i've never been a fan uh since the since the get-go with um covid that people have been pushing these therapeutics and i felt like it was very tribal me too well but i do want to say i am very impressed in how we immediately shifted from a immigration story right into ivermectin and also you know why do you know about chinese liver flukes in the eye why why do you know about that the river blindness yeah because when when uh the

whole ivermectin thing oh they discussed it okay well it's it's all in the news and it's okay that used to be it's a rare illness it's like in the river they would swim into the eyeball when they're swimming underwater how they guys it was was called a Chinese liver fluke. We used to look for it in the eye. I don't know how it gets there. But I think in Africa, it's really common or something. And so ivermectin is like a UN certified. Oh, yeah.

But I want to stress this, too. I really do think that when it came to COVID, I did not. When I got COVID, this is the craziest thing. I didn't want it. I said I didn't want it. They gave me monoclonal antibodies that that worked me up. Right. And then four days later, they were like, well, where your doctor we prescribed it. And I was like, but I feel fine now. And so even when I went on Rogan, I said, I'm not, you know, confident in this, because I know there's a lot

of studies, but there's a lot of contradictory, contradictory. Let me just tell you, let me just real quick. My point was, the Daily Beast still ended up writing that I was the poster boy for ivermectin, despite me constantly being like, nah. Well, let me add to that being not. You know, back when we had nothing to offer, it's like, all right, whatever. I saw it used a ton. And it was like, people that were getting sick just kept getting sick. They got worse.

Some people that were going to get well, got well. And I don't know the medicine made a difference. As opposed to now with Paxlovid or monoclonal antibodies, they're better the next day. I mean, it's just pow, pow. They get better immediately. The Paxlovid stuff works. Oh, my goodness. Well, too well, actually, because you get these rebounds that are kind of common.

And I'm wondering if it's affecting the immune response. My daughter took Paxlovid better in two days and then was not rebound, but reinfected six weeks later. And so, or two months later. And it was like, eh, she should have still been immune but that's the drug that was also approved under emergency protocol is that correct and i think some people are also saying that their side effects is this taste in their mouth of crap that they can't get out from this side effect and also there's a lot of people who took it like joe biden and i think another very prominent politician that had a rebound with this sickness. So still, everything is not known.

And when it comes to the antibodies, you've got to remember, in January, the Biden administration got rid of antibodies and told everyone not to use it and prevented people from using it when it could have saved lives, which is absolutely insane. I want to ask you, do you know the name of the phenomenon when you taste crap in your mouth and everything tastes like crap? You mean from Paxlovid? It's not just from Paxlovid. There's a word for it. Oh, a syndrome? Yeah, yeah. Disguzia, I think it's called.

Is that what it is? Disguzia? Because I remember people were getting COVID. Yeah. And then there's a video of a woman crying saying everything tastes like sewage. That's rare. That's rare. Usually it just doesn't taste or it tastes salty.

Disguzia is the distortion of the sense of taste. Is that kind of like disgusting? Disguise? I guess. Did they ever figure out what COVID was doing to people? Because I heard that it was somehow causing the red blood cells to not be able to transport oxygen. Yes, that's probably true. Probably due to microvascular injury.

Something about the spike protein and the lining of the endothelium. That's where the story is. We don't have it fully worked out yet, but it was causing our tiniest vessels to dysfunction. So nutrients and oxygen and immune cells. So a lot of the brain stuff we've been worrying about is because of that, the microvasculature. In fact, it's pretty well established that the olfactory stuff,

the smell stuff, is from this microvascular process. Oh, the brain fog. Just really, just one more click. There was another study. There was another study. I'm rooting this rooting this for your program no no i just want to say one more thing because because this is such an important thing i can't stop building the roads as we just really there's a new study released in the new england journal of medicine a study from israel that talked about how paxlovid had no benefits to people under 65 that's the early studies that is

that has been that is so so generally with covid, we know what we're doing with vaccines over the age of 75 and PaxLavit over 65. Otherwise, we don't really fully know what we're doing. What is PaxLavit? By the sense of... From a clinical and scientific standpoint, we're very clear. We're very solid over 75, over solid, you know, over 75, under that, mm-mm.

I'm going to throw a lasso around this and yank it right back. What are you going to make hook out for me? Pull it back to what's going on with the immigration stuff. We'll get back into this, too. I don't want to just shut that down.

We actually just have a handful of other stories related to the immigration crisis. It's the new Pfizer drug. Let me see if I can, I want to pull up this tweet and kind of wrap up the segment. This is so good. This is John Hayward who tweeted,

one, sending 50 migrants to Martha's Vineyard is like the Holocaust. Two, ha ha ha. You just gave us a chance to show how compassionate we are. Three, we demand emergency assistance. Four, get these damn migrants off our island. Five, call the National Guard all in 24 hours. This is the red pilling of what, you know,

migrancy can become. Overly compassionate to a destructive purpose. Like, yeah, the idea of letting people that are suffering in and helping them is great. But when you actually see what that means for an infrastructure that can't handle it, it can become destructive. No, no, no, you're wrong.

The infrastructure can handle it. Go on Airbnb right now, and you look at Martha's Vineyard. There's enough houses that are available. There's enough rooms that are available. The Obamas have enough mansions that are available. And someone said today on Twitter, and it caught my attention.

I'm sorry? Mansions being one in Martha's Vineyard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Of course. But someone said something on Twitter that really caught my attention uh i'm sorry mansions being one yeah yeah yeah of course of course but but someone said something on twitter that really caught my attention today and it said that the democrats have a new immigration policy and it's quote you don't got to go home but you can't stay here and that's exactly what happened in martha's vineyard and it's and it's and and de santis put it right on their doorsteps and they showed what kind of big hypocrites they are it's it's hilarious, it's a violation of basic moral,

certainly Kantian moral principles of using people as a means to an end. It's a problem on all sides. Yeah, I agree. But the issue is that Biden has been doing it. The Biden administration has been trafficking children. And so, but here's the way I see it. For DeSantis, we know there's a political stunt

in Martha's Vineyard specifically. I'm not a fan of any of way I see it. For DeSantis, we know there's a political stunt in Martha's Vineyard specifically. I'm not a fan of any of these people doing it. Now New York City is sending them back to Florida. It's just outright crazy. But here's the funny thing. As they rag on Abbott and DeSantis over this, Biden's been sending the migrants to New York City. So they completely ignore the problem

when it's Biden doing it, sending them to New York. Then as soon as Abbott or DeSantis does it, all of a sudden now it's a humanitarian crisis. Now is that them or is that the media? Oh, the media. But they are the media. I mean, what's the difference? But there's blaming like Biden or DeSantis.

Like, isn't it the cartels that are running human trafficking across our border? It is leftist NGOs with U.S. influence going down and telling them the border's open and jobs are waiting for you. That's right. You had mentioned before the show that it might be big money involved. I don't know if you. That's right. You had mentioned before the show that it might be big money involved. I don't know if Soros... There's videos. We've seen this during the big caravans of people who look American

talking and working with these people and they're being told that you can come up, no one will stop you, and there's jobs waiting. You were saying Ami Horowitz. Yeah, Ami Horowitz has some good videos on this. He embedded himself. He said there's rail cars of food and a hospital and a school that all travels with them.

I mean, it's thousands of people going thousands of miles. What do you think? You just rely on the kindness of strangers as you walk into their town? Foraging and farming as they go. It's a business. So someone's profiting off of it. They're like getting paid. It's human trafficking.

Essentially what's happening here. I wouldn't be surprised if there's big business in the U.S. behind it for cheap labor. Things like that. We've seen that in the past.S. behind it for cheap labor, things like that. We've seen that in the past. Well, Bernie Sanders called it a Koch brothers plan, a billionaire's plan to get a bunch of cheap labor

to, of course, lower wages and increase the housing costs for everyone else. Let me pull up this story from the Daily Mail. Luke had just mentioned this a moment ago.

Daily Mail says, what homeless crisis? Dozens of rooms and properties are available on Airbnb in Martha's Vineyard. After homelessness director claimed 50 illegal immigrants could not stay because there's no affordable housing. It's a big lie.

Look, pull up Airbnb and you will see the dozen, several dozen properties that are vacant right now. And I know you might be saying, but Tim, that's private property. You can't just force. I ain't going to force anybody. The local government of all of these very wealthy individuals who pay very, very large property taxes can spend the $200 per night to house these people until they can find a place for them. I don't see. I'm not even trying to be cute here.

If these people shut up and said, what do we do with them? Okay, it's going to cost us 10 grand. We're going to find them a home for three days to make them make sure they're comfortable, well taken care of and well fed. We can easily afford us 10 grand. We're going to find them a home for three days to make them make sure they're comfortable, well taken care of and well fed. We can easily afford the 10 grand. Then we'll find a place that's more permanent or a way to transition them to something more permanent. Instead, what do they do? They call the National Guard, ship them off to a military base. Oh, they also had a GoFundMe. They started $36,000. They raised. I have another homeless wrinkle as it pertains to immigration that it's exposed something,

which is that in the city of Los Angeles, we have 150,000 people sitting on the streets, lying on the sidewalks, sick as hell, but any event. And we've had roughly 500,000 undocumented workers come into the city, give or take. Of those 500,000 people, they have no home, no money, no family, no job, no passport. They're there illegally. I dare you to find one on the street. It's a housing problem. And yet people with that kind of a burden find housing. They have nothing. And they find housing.

Not one of them on the street out of 500,000. I used to live in LA and I worked at a restaurant with illegal immigrants that were working in the kitchen. And they had like their own housing structure set up that only they could live at. And it was dirt cheap, like a hundred bucks a month. I was paying like $1,200 a month. No, it's not that so much. They'd live in, they'd get eight or 10 of them together and they'd get a place. You know, they'd go do it and they'd survive and they'd work real hard.

And then they'd move out and find another place. I think someone was funding their cheap rent. I think it was like an organization was making sure they had a place to stay for very cheap. That makes sense. They work. Look, even if you pay, even if these companies are paying illegal immigrants, they don a place to stay for very cheap. That makes sense. They work. Look, even if you pay, even if these companies are paying illegal immigrants, they don't got to pay taxes.

So they say like, so if they pay an illegal immigrant minimum wage. It wasn't my company that I was working at. It was like another illegal immigration company or group that was like making sure they only, I don't know. I don't know why their rent was so super cheap on sunset in Silver Lake, LA. Yeah, it was insane.

Key Bono, is that the thing? The benefits. Yeah, the benefits. Alex Jones has it all the time. Yep. Key Bono. And the worst part was that they were amazing people. Yes.

This is what's so crazy. Yes. But it's just the harsh reality of putting too many people together at once. It makes me feel like you know uh i mentioned this before the show i mentioned mentioned it earlier on my other show um it's the fall of the roman republic not the roman empire um and a lot of people have likened what's happening now to the roman empire and maybe i don't know i was just reading and i was like oh it sounds like the roman republic like someone comes in because someone super chatted this

yesterday saying that caesar crossing the rubicon wasn't the end it was transforming the republic into the empire which made it last for another 200 you know another two centuries and so i was thinking about that right you bring up the homeless problem we've had a homeless problem in la for what decades several decades and now we have mass immigration problem mass illegal immigration problem how are we supposed to accommodate more people when we can't even accommodate our own? It's just going to crumble and fall between us. But we could accommodate them.

We refuse to. How? We actively have laws and systems that prevent us from treating these poor people. Like how do we do it? Oh my God, it'd be so simple. I mean, these are all my patients. Look, if you took that same population

and put them in four walls in a room and they were dying at the rate they're dying right now, that's a hospital, except there are no doctors and no nurses. And doctors and nurses are not allowed to interact with them or deal with them at all. Until they get so sick, they end up in the ER. And then if they say, I have a place to eat, I have two bucks for McDonald's, I have a place to live, that's my tent over there, that's it. And I don't want to kill myself and somebody else. You can't keep them. The hospital can't keep them? No.

You can't keep them. So are you saying these are people with like... Drug addiction, schizophrenia, bipolar. It's just an open air asylum now. These people with schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, if they were given medication, would they... Thrive. They would thrive.

I worked with the state senate for a while trying to get a law passed to just take the heat off a little bit because we sent families up there and families like, look, I have money. I have doctors ready to go. I have a bed for my son. Please help me bring him in. He doesn't want to come in because it's part of the illness. They have something called anosognosia.

They're blocked in seeing what's going on with them. They think they're living their best life. They're just getting sicker and sicker and they die and anastomosis is a neurological term it just means kind of like denial and uh and they just told them scram get out of here get out of here who are you to say it's like it's on purpose isn't it yes it's disgusting is it what terrible why is this why why it's a you know i i did a documentary called beyond homelessness with the salvation army it's sort of making the rounds now and the woman that spearheaded that did the interviews and stuff i was with her at a film festival i said i said i'm

so tired and she can't do it anymore i can't do it she goes no please keep going i go i go i can't fight these guys and i you know what what can we reason with them and she turned to me she snapped me she goes it's a religion for them it's a religion you can't reason with them? And she turned to me, she snapped me, she goes, it's a religion for them. It's a religion. You can't reason with them. I thought, oh, great. And the religion is people are free to do whatever. There's no such thing

as brain diseases. There's no such thing that affects free will. There's no such thing that affects judgment. There's nothing. The only disease is dementia. That one,

if you don't treat, you've abused a patient. And it is the same exact symptom complex. And all the studies and what we knew about dementia was also artificially inflated by a scientist that just made science up.

That was also a recent scientific finding as well. And Ian, you ask why. Do you think the government cares about you, Ian? Do you think the government ever cared about you? Do you think they're there to provide a service? They don't. Absolutely not. Luke, you're completely wrong.

Wrong. Excuse me. The government cares about you because if you're not around. Where are your taxes coming from? Exactly. Exactly. California, they really need you. So they see you as like a fresh, ripe apple to be juiced, to just squeeze as much as they can.

And look, I got an apple tree. Do I care about the apples? Well, look, I'm not going to go save the apples when they're injured, rotting or whatever. I'm going to throw them in the garbage, but I care about them in so far as I would like to take the ones that are good and use them for food and juice. Is it the problem where you can't, the California doesn't want you to be able to go take someone off the street and be like, you're sick, come with me. Yeah. Nothing like that. Oh my God. Nothing like that. Can the people voluntarily come into the hospital and stay? Not when they're sick like that. That's very rare.

But it's, you know, look, the term, we used to be able to keep people for suicide, homicide, and gravely disabled. Gravely disabled is essentially gone. And gravely disabled is what's going on in the street. What if we did this? What if we, you know, just put lithium in the drinking water? From Vox.com in 2018. How our drinking water could help prevent suicide.

Is that what they want to do? Just put lithium in the water and that's scary, right? Are they really talking about it? Yes, this is Vox.com. This is mainstream, NBC-funded Vox.com putting an article out

arguing that we should put lithium in our drinking water to kind of desensitize people. This is because they found that people who lived near water sources that had lithium were much happier. Less stress, less suicidal. They're like, alright, let's do it. Quote unquote happier.

Well, I mean, it's a drug. You knock on their door and they're like, hello. In the right dose, I think it would probably be good for you. I imagine it's the third element. I mean, it's got to have something good. Fluoridation. This is fluoridation all over again. Well, but this is psychoactive. Yeah. Right. And it's bad for your kidneys. So like top-down medicine.

And your thyroid. Screw your thyroid up big time. What's your experience with top-down medicine? Because I find like saying this is the vaccine. Everyone needs it. Whereas everyone's different. The centralization of medicine is one of the biggest catastrophes I've ever seen. Medicine is best practice, highly trained, caring physician, motivated, informed patient.

That is your most efficient unit, period. Anything else screws it up. And now, look, I didn't realize 80% of physicians are employed now. So when all these physicians froze in place and stopped treating patients, I couldn't understand what was happening. Well, they got word from on high from the centralized authority, just sent them home, and that was it. It was psychopathic. And that's crazy. And they didn't even talk about early treatments they didn't even talk about nothing preventative treatment they were told they were told they were instructed to shut

up don't do it well so i got sick and then um i felt fine and i was like i just feel like i'm a little sick then it got bad and i was like i'm gonna call because maybe there's a protocol for this that i'm not aware of and you know you know, I'm somebody who reads constantly. But I was like, maybe they'll say like, hey, take this vitamin, do this or otherwise. I called the local hospital and they went, go to sleep. Yeah. And then I was like, that's it. Monitor your PO2.

That's it. And they were like, just go to sleep. They didn't tell me to do anything. And then that night I got really bad and I was shaking. And so I was like man if the if i gotta call joe rogan that's you know it's the only thing i can do it's what i always think when i get sick but in all seriousness it was um i had talked to a doctor and they said there's nothing you can do but i knew from the news not even from talking to joe that he had gotten

monoclonal antibodies and i said maybe maybe there's something he knows by the way his treatment was like a year into the pandemic we had that stuff for six months before that right it's crazy now uh that to me is a public health failure they should have been educating people how to they want to save lives educate people how to deal with their illness this is a crazy thing so uh we we all got sick we all got the monoclonal antibodies and we were all like just overnight just better it was a weird experience and then i remember um hearing from my doctor that they were actually struggling to get more monoclonal antibodies at a certain point there was a moment right around the time you probably got sick where they had trouble distributing

it trouble getting it trouble accessing it but they were saying it was because the government was shutting it down yeah they were they were making it harder to get and then i think what biden said no to it or no you know what, you know what? It was how they destroyed. I think they started sending it into areas of risk. You know what I mean? Well, no, Biden tried to take it away from Florida, and Florida and Ron DeSantis had to fight back saying, no, stop trying to take it away from us. And then they limited it because they said it was, quote, ineffective,

which absolutely made no sense at all and was not backed by any science. One of the things that I've learned about public health is it's not about medicine. Many of them are not even biologically trained, certainly not clinically trained. It's about equity. That've learned about public health is it's not about medicine. Many of them are not even biologically trained, certainly not clinically trained. It's about equity. That is the new public health mantra. And it was not the right, it's an important prism. I get it's important, but it's not the whole story.

And it was not useful or not important in terms of getting through this particular pandemic. Wasn't there somewhere? There was people in Texas denied antibodies because they were the wrong color of skin. That happened to a patient of mine. Yeah, which is absolutely mind-boggling which is absolutely crazy you take care of someone depending on how much they need to be taken care of not because of the way that they were born with a particular skin color and this happened in the united states there's a viral video of a guy filming as the nurse is telling him you don't qualify he's why not she's like oh you're white. It's absolutely mind-boggling.

Now, I'd forgotten about this chapter. It's interesting. I'd really forgotten about it. But I remember they were reallocating it and sending it places where you couldn't get it. But that was the deal. I had a patient really get really sick with it. Now, it was probably Omicron. And it was before we had Omicron-specific monoclonal.

So I wasn't at the time that upset about it. But I thought, man man it might have helped him because he got really sick that's just yeah he should file a suit I mean that's a violation of the civil rights act people died because they were denied specific criteria that he did not meet just these criteria that was has that changed the most important criteria was the color of your skin the same thing with the vaccine rollout too remember I couldn't get the reason I got COVID I couldn't get the vaccine because I wasn't the right as that first equity rollout. Remember that?

They started, yeah, marginalized people first. Right. And I couldn't get it. And even though I was treating COVID at the time, and I was going to go volunteer my time in the ER, they lost me because I got so sick. And that's why it's important to point out that the CEO of these big pharma companies are very good, honorable people because they chose not to get the vaccine because people couldn't. Like the Sacklers. They're very honorable. The way they told people that, what is it?

Is it addictive? Yeah, I could go all day on the opioid crisis. I live that one, man. Well, you know, we have baby 2098 in California now where doctors have their license taken away if they give out misinformation. You don't know about 2098? No. Oh, my God. This other side of the country hasn't heard about this yet.

They passed a bill that says if any doctor is found to be giving out misinformation that deviates from the standard of care, their license could be uncovered. What's the standard of care? That's the problem. I've seen standard of care. When I first got to the psychiatric hospital, start working at psychiatric hospital in 1985 when i first got there i acquired about two dozen patients that were the subjects of the standard of care in the late 40s and 50s somebody put an ice pick up above their eyes swooped it back and forth and they were disasters disasters and that was the standard of care. Then I had to live through the opioid

standard of care. Pain is the fifth vital sign. Remember that? Pain is what the patient says it is. Pain controls what the patient says it is. They also started prosecuting physicians for inadequate treatment of pain. So we all froze and we all froze and sent everything to the pain doctors, the pain management guys who felt that anybody that didn't use as much opiates as possible was opiophobic. Patients are in control. Let them decide what they need. And my patients were being killed hand over fist. What is Vicodin?

That's opiate. It is an opiate. Yeah. There's opiates and opioids. They're just the same thing. They're the same thing. Yeah. Many people believe your politicians could be bought off by multinational corporations,

but many people don't realize your doctors could be bought off by multinational corporations, and they are. YouTube's starting to hiccup and give us the business. We got a warning. Oh, see? Error. And I'm seeing the- You said the I word. I still got us rolling.

We had, it's hiccuping. We were talking about an issue pertaining to the CIA and the FBI and politics. Yeah, we had a gap. Then the video froze. And then when you go back to watch it and the FBI and politics. And then there, then the video froze. And then when you go back to watch it, that section is missing. So it's important that we talk about people are putting, putting F in the jet.

Look, look, we've got, we've got ultra high speed business, very expensive internet. I can see that our stream rate is, is green and perfect. And people in the chat are like F,

F, F in the video struggling right now so don't i'm sorry if i don't believe it's a coincidence that we're having this conversation and all of a sudden it's like believe nothing nothing it's what i deal with all the time yep uh yeah don't assume anything i've infected your guy let's talk about the civil war there's so much good civil war no they don't care they don't care when we talk about that i know that's what i'm saying let's get off this because i literally i'm like harper ferry is right here it's like dr drew do you think there's a civil

war coming no no you don't do not really why not i i just i don't see armies forming and i i there could be some violence that happens i'm sure armies forming though why do you think armies would need to form i i mean you're a civil unrest is not civil war, you know. I don't know. Maybe my idea of civil war is sort of outdated. It's based on America. Yeah. And when you look at other countries' civil war, Syria, for instance, there weren't armies.

I mean, you had the Syrian army, right? But that's the national army. You had, I think, in the beginning of the Syrian revolution and civil war, 12 disparate factions of random people with random weapons. There's even a video of I think it was it wasn't ISIS. It was another terror. Well, they say terror group. I'm not sure exactly which group it was driving a truck from Detroit or whatever. They get their hands on whatever they get their hands on.

And so I think one of the mistakes a lot of people make is they assume civil war is going to be like know faction of states and their armies versus another faction of states and their armies because of an american perspective you look at spain and other countries and it's like i mean we've got militant far-left extremists engaging in terror we've got right-wing militias lurking in the shadows and training and biding their time i just think we we have we have 50 independent states they are also different one another people just vote with their feet they'll just move but that's that is a precursor to to civil conflict or civil unrest or war movement geographic hyperpolarization so it's so i hear from a lot of people one of the scariest things actually is uh people people people started moving out of new york with covid and all that stuff people started moving for political reasons. We moved for political reasons.

We were in South Jersey. The riots happened. The riots crossed the bridge. And I went, this is crazy. Rioters crossed the bridge out of Philly into the suburbs? Nah, I'm not interested in that. So we come out to the tri-state, you know, mostly West Virginia area. And what ends up happening is geographic hyperpolarization will result in staunch jurisdictions, which could

result in a Confederacy and a union type scenario. You need people. So you got New York City with like, oh, it's, you know, California's a state, 60% Democrat, 30% Republican or something like that. That actually keeps some stability, but it keeps skewing further and further into the left because people who are leaving, you're leaving. And then the state will become completely dominated by one faction. And there already is. And right. But getting worse.

So then California allows illegal immigrants to come to their border. But guess what? There's no border checkpoint between California and, say, Nevada. Eventually, one of these other states is going to say we won't tolerate this. Arizona, maybe. And they'll put up a border checkpoint and say California won't do it. Well, we're going to guard from California and from our southern border. Carrie Lake talks about declaring an invasion and sending the National Guard down to the southern border if she wins the gubernatorial election. Carrie, what are you going to do with

the borders to the west of these other states? Are you going to put up checkpoints and National Guard there? Because if California lets them in, they'll come in there and they'll come right through. These are the kind of things that I think will lead to the escalation. And I think one of the scariest things, actually, is we're in this calm before the storm where you get people like Bill Burr saying, if you go outside and you talk to people, nobody's fighting anybody. It's just the Internet. And it's like, yeah, that's like when people have hyper polarized to the point where, of course, Democrats aren't fighting Democrats in New York. They agree with each other. Of course, you know, conservatives in southern states aren't fighting each other.

They agree with each other there. Now you're seeing split via territory to a more and more extreme degree. And this is not a new phenomenon. There was a map that was posted. I think it may have been by Matthew Iglesias. I'm not entirely sure. A guy from Vox. And it shows how since the 80s, it was a map of partisanship by region. And the country was mostly white because it was 50-50 in most places with some pink and some light blue in

certain areas that were somewhat partisan. And every election cycle, you can see areas getting darker red and areas getting darker blue. That's been the 20 years of geographic hyperpolarization. So I'm not saying I know for sure, but I'm certainly worried that we're in that territory and that things are getting worse. I worry that something bad could happen. I worry I'm not clear what it takes to get out of this. I have faith in the better angels of our nature, but we'll see. Since we started talking about Civil War, YouTube's connection has drastically improved. How's that?

Weird. No, for real. I'm sure I see. Let's test it out again. Let's talk about the medical stuff right now and talk about Big Pharma robbing and screwing everyone's health over. I don't trust Big Pharma. I've never trust Big Pharma.

And I'm surprised that all of the former leftists, I don't know what you'd call them these days, are now just in favor of Big Pharma. It's weird isn't it yeah it's very weird not just in favor but but virtue signal around them everything everything they say is we did it just does say at the lord and attack non-believers yeah we were ragged on i should say we but the country was ragged on pharma bro for a long time yeah these pharmaceutical companies are bringing us off and now it's like... I don't think they understand on what flimsy evidence everything was pushed through.

Yeah. How extraordinary the circumstances were. And that was extraordinary circumstances, I understand. And if they were more clear, like, hey, it's a wartime

kind of posture and we're going to have a... It's a fog of war in addition and we're not quite sure what we're doing, but we're probably going to accept more problems than we normally would.

We normally wouldn't push stuff like this through, but we're trying to deal with a horrible problem. They didn't say that. Is there someone at YouTube with their finger, like they have a throttle button? Yeah. And they're like, oh, they're doing it again.

And they just push it. That's probably it. It's probably just AI. But Dr. Drew, it didn't change. There's now, what, eight lab rats that are behind the latest procedure that they're trying to tell everyone to take right now? And they all got COVID. Yes.

The rats did. So there's eight lab rats that are behind the latest study latest procedure that they're trying to tell everyone to take right now? And they all got COVID. Yes. There's eight lab rats that are behind the latest study that is having the FDA pushing this latest booster shot. The so-called bivalent booster has not been tested on humans. Period. Only eight rats. Has it been given to humans? Yeah, now it hasn't

been distributed. It's being pushed. The FDA is telling people to go get it. It's the rush. I don't like the rush. The more serious problem is the fact that- This is CBS. This is CBS reporting. Yes. Right here, cbs17.com.

Yeah. Yes. They say it- This is a fact. Should it matter, they say. Well, because- Yes. The reason, the justification is this is how we develop our flu shots.

This is how we test and develop flu shots every year. But that is a very, very different sort of platform. Just real quick. This one's for you, YouTube. All we're talking about is CBS, a CBS website that is NewsGuard certified with a 92.5 out of 100 score saying, they say the basic fact is true. The preliminary findings presented by Pfizer were based on tests in eight mice. There you go.

That's complete insanity in my opinion. And now the FDA is telling you to go get it. Unless it's an emergency. It gets worse. Unless it's an absolute will, it gets worse. Thank you. So there is all this, Dr. Paul Offit, one of the major proponents of the vaccine, the mRNA vaccine stuff.

And by the way, above 75, I'm vaccinating the hell out of my patients. And they're taking this one too. Because the benefits are clear. They've done great in Paxvit. I'm using lots of P out of my patients. And they're taking this one too. Because the benefits are clear. They've done great in Paxvit. I'm using lots of Paxvit in that age group. If you're over 75 years of age, the consequences can kill you and the treatments are working.

They're preventing that. They're preventing serious illness. They're preventing them from dying. This is what's going on in the older age groups. Younger, it gets much less clear. You brought up earlier 65 under for Paxman. We don't know what we're doing. We really don't know what we're doing under 40 with the vaccines.

We really don't know. But Dr. Paul Offit, because of a signal that's coming out that maybe there's some problems in younger males, particularly with the Moderna vaccine, he said, you know, I don't think the younger males should take this Omicron vaccine. Walensky, the head of the CDC, came out and said, they asked her, they go, Paul Offit's your guy. He said, don't do this. Why are you saying 12 and above? And she goes, she literally

says this out loud into a microphone on a national platform. We're just trying to simplify our messaging. So we're saying 12 and above. To simplify our messaging inside of there being a possible problem with the vaccine in males. So this was Paul Offit, you said? Yep. How do I look this one up? Good luck on Google. Dr. Paul Offit, young male vaccine. There it is. There it is.

Right there. For kids under five. He's saying no. Five to 11. No need to explain it better. There it is. Down below. You were just there.

This one? One more. This one says we need to explain it better. Yeah. And I will stress this too. You know, Dr. Drew. That was the original vaccine. That wasn't this one. Yeah. And I will stress this too. You know, Dr. Drew. That was the original vaccine. That wasn't this one.

Yeah. Obviously you are literally Dr. Drew, but I would encourage people if they're, you know, for whatever their health issues are. Talk to your doctor, doctor and patient. That's it. Talk to your doctor. Yeah. Dr. Drew is not your doctor.

No. I was educational. This is a podcast. No, no, no, no. And also I think it's important to consider, too, that generalities versus specific issues. And I'm not saying don't get the vaccine. I'm saying I'm not by any means. Like I said, I'm recommending it strongly, really pre-all my patients over 65.

It's that when you get younger and you're male, make that decision with your doctor. It's a hard decision. You've got to make that together. My point is I think when it comes to the internet stuff people might see a general claim or a general thing it doesn't apply to them and they might not realize it unless they go and talk to it i mean you said what was the quote they want to be as general as no they said we need to we need to simplify our messaging so we're just saying 12 we are simplifying our message you need to get your fully bolstered if you're over the age

of 12 and what we're talking about is not making simplified statements about this. So for a doctor to be simplifying things to a patient, it's kind of stupid. Like, take it whenever. I just retweeted it. Here's the problem. That's now the standard of care. And so if I talk to a patient and go, hey, look, here's the signal. We're concerned.

And 17-year-olds, we're seeing this. Now I violated the standard of care. I could lose my life. Tim, I just retweeted the video. Is the standard of care simplified? If you're looking for the video, I just retweeted the video. Standard of care is to be simplified. If you're looking for the video, I just retweeted it, by the way, on my Twitter account.

Yeah, he was up at the top of the page here. I mean, if anything, this is exposing that we have been, that our system of medicine in the world is very chaotic right now. Public health. Let me read what Poynter says. Poynter says,

Walensky told Janssen, we are simplifying our message. The message is you need to get your fall booster vaccine, so go ahead and get it. If you're over the age of 12, if you've received your primary series, if you're more than two months out of your last shot, you can get an updated vaccine. And so we've intentionally simplified the message. So it's very, very clear.

It's also very clear that those who are over the age of 50, even over the age of 60 or 70, are more at risk for severe disease, hospitalization, and death. And it is especially important that people in that demographic and others who are at high risk of severe disease get that updated vaccine. She made tons of sense in the latter half of that statement. When I was listening to it,

when it happened, I thought it was so weird. The beginning part of it was like, what are you saying? And then the latter part was like, okay, yeah, that's right. For someone at the CDC to say, you need to do this,

that's not my doctor. Why don't they say, you need to do this. That's not my doctor. Why don't they just tell you to please go and consult your physician? I have no idea. So Casey Neistat, he's a cool dude. I'm a big fan of his. He tweeted something like, go get vaccinated. And then I responded with, go and talk to your doctor first or something like that. And then he said something to me like, funny, I didn't go to a doctor.

I just went to a pharmacy. No, a drive-thru, stuck my arm out the window and they gave me the vaccine. And then I was like, that person doesn't know your history. They don't have a relationship with you. It's just a random person. Like to me, that seems irresponsible. You should go to your doctor. But here's the crazy thing.

The response I got from all of these people were like, I was being an anti-vaxxer for telling people, telling people, go to a doctor and ask about the vaccine. That was considered anti-vax. And I was like, I don't understand. And it goes, and you're a Trumper, except you're not a Trumper because it's his vaccine. So it's very strange. They respond to me. But Tim, the doctor would just say, get the vaccine.

And I'm like, then what's the problem? Here's my thing. here's my thing here's my thing if if you go to somebody who's not your doctor and ask them for medication i think you're you're in trouble joe rogan and but i mean joe rogan's advice was call a doctor you know what i mean of course if you if you go to someone who's not your doctor who's like a a pharmacist attack or something to get a medication and they don't know your history my concern with all of this was that oh we're getting the error again my concern my concern was that there are adverse effects for all medications all medication anytime you interact with the medical system there's always potential for trouble and so when you go to your doctor they ask you for your allergies and things like that if you go to a stranger and they don't know

you and you sit down in front of a 7-Eleven, I mean, what if you have an egg allergy, which was one of the counter indications or whatever? I think it's really important that people just do like, hey, this is a really important thing that's going on with this pandemic.

You should talk to your doctor because what I don't want to see is people who could have avoided adverse events being subject to these adverse events and then conspiracy theorists being like, aha, that's proof. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no. You go to your doctor, minimize risk, maximize your benefit.

Your doctor knows your medical history better than anybody else. And can fully inform you for your particular circumstance. So you do a truly informed consent on the care as opposed to mandated streamlined, you know, sort of recommendation. It's kind of like hitting us again. It's as if it's kind of being treated where there's no public sanitation because like the spanish flu i think they were afraid it was going to be something like that but they didn't have like running water and soap a lot of people didn't i mean a lot of people did but if we didn't have running water and covet

hit it probably would have killed a huge segment like half the population you know it could have without running water that's no this is actually a good point. I think what people don't realize too is when the, when the pandemic first hit a lot of people, myself included, we were like, Hey, maybe we got to take this seriously. This is getting freaky. We were looking at what's happening in China and stuff. And maybe it would have been a hundred years ago when we didn't have the same degree of sanitation and access to refrigerators and clean running water and things like that. It probably would

have been substantially worse. Oh, yeah. COVID, it was nasty. It was nasty to me. Do you know where, say, terms like social distancing came from and six feet distancing? Made up out of whole cloth. Completely made up by the NIH. Completely.

By who? NIH? Yeah. There was a guy named Paul Alexander who was at the table and he was like, why six feet? He goes, oh, that sounds right. Sounds right. And you will not see the term social distancing in any infectious disease tech book in publication. It doesn't exist.

And then six feet is just completely made up out of whole cloth. Yeah. And all these things, lockdown, that was all made up, too. That's never been advocated before in human history. The plexiglass thing, totally made up as well. No science behind it as well. And clearly a bad idea, by the way. And you couldn't get anywhere else.

Yes. And it also made sure that the germs were all building up on one particular wall and platform and staying there. And as you said,

you're getting me riled up because you're bringing up all the things that I remember that are just coming back in the back of my mind and I'm ready just to go on a tangent.

It needs a post-mortem where I'm trying to interview all the people and put it all together. So that's what I'm doing on Wednesdays at three o'clock for Eastern Pacific. I do want to talk about censorship because we've had all together. So that's what I'm doing on Wednesdays at 3 o'clock Pacific time. I do want to talk about censorship because we've had this story in waiting.

You're being censored right now. Just because I'm talking about medicine. A physician with doubly board certified two fellowships. And I'm being censored for just discussing the facts. Maybe. We don't know for sure. It just happens to me all the time. I got to say that there's very few circumstances where for some reason.

It's on YouTube's end. Okay, so for those that are just tuning in, we're getting weird hiccups on the show. And we have a high-speed gigabit fiber connection. We track our own network. It's robust. It's professional. It's not on our end.

On YouTube's end, something must be going wrong. Forgive me if i don't think this is just coincidence and it correlates with us talking about these particular topics we like switch to civil war and then i'm not kidding uh it says excellent connection and then a yellow a yellow bar appears saying error youtube is not receiving enough information that's the that's fifth generational warfare if it's really happening which might be i worked in social media administration sometimes stuff goes wrong people If it's really happening, which might be, I worked in social media administration, sometimes stuff goes wrong, people think it's- Coincidence.

Yeah, yeah. It can oftentimes be technical glitches. But that's what fifth-generational warfare is, is psychological warfare when you don't know what's happening. Alex Berenson got another opinion from a judge today. Oh, this is huge. We got to pull this up. To this point.

It's a Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals. Yeah, the floodgates have been opened my friends let me pull up his Twitter account alright let's see there it is this one's I write it so here we go

ladies and gentlemen this is huge news Alex Berenson he's a journalist says boom I say again boom the Federal Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals

just said Twitter and other social media platforms don't have an unlimited right to discriminate against speech let a thousand flowers bloom why I hope James O'Keefe is listening somewhere off in the distance

and um gearing up for war here we go it says the first amendment protects speech it generally prevents the government from interfering with people's speech or forcing them to speak the platforms argue that because they are host and transmit speech the first amendment also gives them an unqualified license to invalidate laws that hinder them from censoring speech they don't like. And they say that license entitles them to pre-enforcement facial relief against HB 20. We reject the platform's attempt to extract a free willing censorship right from the Constitution's free speech guarantee.

The platforms are not newspapers. Their censorship is not speech. They're not entitled to pre-enforcement facial relief is it facile is it facial and hb20 is constitutional because it neither compels nor obstructs the platform's own speech in any way the district court erred in concluding otherwise and abused its discretion by issuing a preliminary injunction The preliminary injunction is vacated and this case is remanded for further proceedings consistent with his opinion. The floodgates have been opened. Not to mention, not to mention, we've seen numerous reports now that the federal government

has been colluding with big tech to censor. So particularly when it came to Fauci, Luke, you mentioned this, they went after a Fauci parody account. They were like, can we get this one taken down? It's not one of ours. Something like that. The government went after Alex Berenson, the White House. I believe it was the White House.

Contacted Twitter and said, why haven't you banned him yet? Yes, correct. So now. He won that case. He won it. Well, he didn't win the case. He got. He got.

Settlement. He got a settlement and he got the disclosure. He got the. What do they call it when they can. You can find all the. Discovery. He got discovery. Discovery.

And that's where they found this communication. And now he's won another major victory here. So this is fantastic. He told me it's just the beginning. He's going to continue. Good. I'm glad to see it. Maybe we need a concerted effort.

Maybe we need to figure out how we can, I mean, anybody who's been impacted by this needs to file suit. I think we've got a class action already. There are a bunch of physicians doing class action against Facebook. Oh, and that one's really important, especially. Yeah, because they ruined people's career. They really destroyed people. Why?

Because fear, the public health authorities in this country decided they needed to use fear to follow a zero COVID policy. And they believed their Chinese associates and professional colleagues that the lockdown was the only way to do that. That was the first time this country, West had ever thought about locking down. It was the Chinese Communist Party policy. I will say this as well right now. With this statement here from Alex Berenson,

I am going to have our lawyers sitting ready and waiting. In case they censor tonight? Or otherwise. I mean, it is absolutely insane that these companies think they are immune. And I've argued this a million times. Now that we know there's been direct collusion, I'd be willing to bet we can find the same collusion between google and the government that we found between twitter and the government and facebook mark zuckerberg's admission you think youtube's clean in this one i doubt it absolutely why why are they focused on so you so youtube can back off and let conversations in the public sphere happen

or they can face discovery and be included in this wave which will ultimately create a cascade of negative impacts on their platform. Mainline medical doctors were censored. Their voice was taken away from the commons because they dared to show data and science that didn't go along with the narrative and paradigms they wanted people to go along. So seeing this news, it emboldens me. It shows me, you know what? Take me down.

Censor me because we could fight this in a court of law and i will if anything happens to me from now on let's go we're gonna fight this i i now had a little relationship with you with youtube and they very kindly reinstated so you can get reinstated not just yourself but there's other doctors that's the problem and they need to adjust that it's not it's not just that it's not just that there's other doctors we can't even mention their names here that you interviewed that don't have a relationship, that haven't gotten their channel back. So it's not just the AI.

This is the issue. With rulings like this, what will happen is I assure you that when this, he posted this four hours ago, I'm willing to bet that a legal team that's working with YouTube or whatever immediately said, we need to have a meeting right now. And I would imagine part of their advice to YouTube was, if you do cross that line, you could, so we'll put it in simple math terms. If you think someone saying a bad thing on your platform will cause you, let's say one degree of damage. So you make a move against that to rectify that one degree of damage. You could then be on the hook for 10 times as much damage. If you censor someone because you don't like what they've said and they sue you, it may

it might open the floodgates to eliminate all of your protections. So you need to pull back. This is what often happens. They'll say, don't fight this battle because it'll make things worse. An example is when it was what was it? Mississippi had the abortion law. Was that Mississippi? And then that,

so this group was like, we're going to sue to stop this. And then the Supreme Court basically wipes out Roe v. Wade. This is one of the big issues with getting involved in legal battle. You can make it worse for yourself when you lose

or you can strategically retreat and pull back. This makes me think that Twitter, apparently corporations think they have free speech. A corporation, an entity, an invisible entity thinks it has free speech on the u.s constitution maybe it does technically but megacorps are different beasts and social media is like the phone company it's not it doesn't choosing who to shut down is not a form

of free speech if you come maybe if you come into my house and you're saying something i don't want you to say i control the land i can I have my free speech overrides yours. I guess that's the way it works legally, but for a corporation, no, I think times are changed company. I'll tell you, I'll tell you what,

if YouTube says, if, if the rules were this, if you violate our policies, we will remove you from the partner program. I would say fair enough. Yeah, it is.

There's, I don't believe there's an obligation for YouTube to sell on my behalf advertising, but to restrict people's access to your content. Like we've been dealing with now for the past couple of weeks, probably because we're within two months of the election. Our thumbnails don't load. When we launch the live stream for this show right now that you're watching, many of you might notice on the homepage of YouTube, even if you do see it, it's a gray block.

And then Ian will be like, Tim, the thumbnail's not up. And I'm like, and I have to go in and put it up every night. And the issue is we can see that that has a direct impact on viewers because people scrolling their homepage won't see the thumbnail and they just won't out of sight, out of mind. We also several times in this show got a weird YouTube error when we talked about certain things that literally happens. So, you know, look, they play these dirty games. They've been playing them with us for a while now. And it is insane to me that YouTube is basically supposed to be like a common carrier. It's supposed to be like a phone company. It's supposed to be a platform. But instead, they act like a newspaper. They have editorial rules. They say, here's our editorial rules you have to abide

by. Sometimes they don't even tell you the rules. They say, here's our editorial rules you have to abide by. Sometimes they don't even tell you the rules. There was an instance where there was a guy we call Voldemort. If you said his name, they would delete your video outright. Even though it was never posted in their rules, that was the case. Right. Well, I've gone back several times and asked what the rules are. They won't tell you.

Right. They have some rules listed. I know one guy. I'm not going to say his name because I don't want them coming after his new show. But with no strikes, no rule breaks, they deleted his entire channel. 300 and something thousand subscribers. You know, they did tell us that they were having sort of, they were under sort of a multinational attack right now with a lot of misinformation, which is kind of interesting to me. That somebody's trying to already stir things up as the election goes in. And to some extent, I kind of, you know,

I want them not to be allowing stuff that's designed to harm us, right? And they have found that certain topics are in that zone. But just really quick, I think there's no rules because they want you to be paranoid. They want you to censor yourself. They want you to be scared to even dare ask something that could go against the grain or the establishment and i think how about this maybe 2098 i could lose my license

i'm scared shit and it's and and let it out true it's a lot more sinister than than just like hey let's let's try to you know keep the rules here because you look at what the what facebook was doing with the fbi facebook was colluding with them, giving them information, spying on people, getting people's private messages, but they also did that with COVID. There's Facebook emails showing how Zuckerberg was offering Dr. Fauci data on users to help the lockdown policies,

to help people make sure that they weren't going outside of their homes. Facebook was volunteering that information. So the way that they work together, the way that they collude is far more interconnected than we even know about. I think if we're going to avoid a civil war,

it's by giving people control of their social media networks and their money. I know they're trying to turn Ethereum into the new global currency right now. Really? Yeah. That's what it's pretty much.

They're like, oh, they just took they took Ethereum off of proof of work, meaning the miners that were making it. It's no longer that. Now it's proof of stake as of like two days ago. So whoever has the Ethereum is going to control the Ethereum network. Basically, they created fiat. They just created another digital fiat.

And it looks like they're going to try and make that the global currency. Ethereum? Who's they? Ethereum. Who is doing it? Probably the American government, the World Economic Forum, the Chinese government. You know, those are probably the three biggest movers on the planet.

Maybe other corporations. You're familiar with the Great Reset. I see a book right there about it. You will own nothing and you will be happy. What? You will own nothing and you will be happy. I'm sorry. That's the quote,

but it's actually, you will own nothing, you will have no privacy, and you will be happy. The actual quote was from a tweet. The year is, was it 2030? 2030. I own nothing, I have no privacy, you'll be happy yeah the actual quote was from a tweet it the year is was it 2030 2030 i own nothing i have no privacy and i've never been happier it was an article in a policy paper that they were pushing for their vision of what's going to be happening in the future which goes along the same principles of the un 2030 vision i just want i want to point

out too that um to a certain degree owning less stuff will actually make you make you happy they say that when you own stuff your stuff owns you but this what we're getting from their vision of it is not exactly what is meant by owning nothing owning nothing is like having your necessities and then foregoing the ridiculous quest for material goods like luxuries but their vision is more like you're going to eat a bag of crickets and live in a pod i think they want to strip property rights away from people, and that's like the basis of this country. And that's the basis of communism.

And that you won't be able to escape, and you won't be able to have a car, and you won't be able to transport, and you won't be able to move anywhere. It's the worst thing. Back in the day, if things got bad, you could be like, well, I guess I'll go exile myself and live in the woods or whatever, or just go off somewhere else. There's nowhere to go anymore. They track you everywhere.

It's by design. Well, I don't know if it's everywhere, but that's what they, you guys are totally depressing me. Yeah. I'm stressed about this because I feel like we're about to evolve from the liberal economic order, which we've had since 1946, where it's American led rules-based economy, military bases to a new world order, which is like this new global technocratic governance where they're trying to spy on people and make sure they're not

stepping out of line because they don't want people to go crazy. They don't want people to blow things up. They don't want Hitler to come again. I get it. I get the purpose may be seen like benevolent, but stripping people of their property rights isn't going to go well in the United States. And we need to work together with you, Klaus, and you know that to make a better world. I think decentralized property ownership is key, man. Ian, when I go out to Chicken City and they're balking at me, do you think I care? No, but not at all. But we're not chickens.

Margaret rules. Margaret escaped. Where'd she go? So we have Chicken City. Yes, I saw it. And then we have a green plastic fence around it so the chickens can come out and graze in the fresh grass. And Margaret is clever and finds a way. She finds areas to slip through because there's more bugs and fresh berries and things like that outside of the grass graze.

She brought the frizzle with her this time. Get it, girl. And we don't like that because we want to control this. And they balk at me because they want to come out. I don't care what they're saying. So, look, when you say, Klaus, we got to work together, he's looking at you

like you're some dumb chicken going, bark, bark, bark. Maybe, but he's obviously looking at me like I have good taste in book coverings. That's fair. I love how Klaus Schwab

stole your book. He's ripped off my freaking font. Almost not the font, not the font. So what's happening is it's the battle between order and chaos. The Klaus and his buddies,

they want order. They want world order. This is a new world order. They don't like chaos. The Klaus and his buddies, they want order. They want world order. This is a new world order. They don't like chaos. I get it. But you need a balance. And order, you could argue, is a little bit better than chaos. But you need a balance of the two.

You cannot have one without the other. It's order out of chaos, which is essentially their guiding principles. But Dr. Drew, I wanted to come back to what you said. You're saying you're getting depressed. I think you getting depressed and sad about this is all a part of the conditioning, all a part of the plan. And I think they win if you are like this. We are presented here.

I showed up. Yeah, we're presented with a lot of challenges. We're presented with a lot of opportunities as well. So in the face of all the adversity, we could either make ourselves better or we could bow down and let them win. And I think this has given us an incredible opportunity to challenge ourselves ourselves test ourselves and to really try to be the best versions of ourselves just walking around here i went running today at the little what's the city borough some something by the brunswick brunswick i was running brunswick trail did you go on the trail the appalachian by

the river i went down by the river and stuff and i ran ran ran ran ran and i i feel like i can feel my lungs here people are happy there's. There's a history attached to everything. The lockdowns were particularly weak when we were here. It was like they were kind of there, but everyone kind of just was like, whatever. You go to California, just you feel terrible. It's the brake dust. Are you looking at the brake dust? Yeah.

Apparently, the brake dust is so small, particularly, that it goes through the avioli in your lungs. From the train? From the cars hitting the brakes. Oh, our city. Are you in LA? Yeah, yeah. But we're not. Well, we are kind of by a freeway. Like it's not as much the smog as it is the brake dust, apparently.

I don't know much about it. Well, I would happily take the brake dust if our governor would be a rational person. You know, and start to help us help the people that are dying on our streets every day and not encumber our licenses for crazy things and all these just crazy things we're doing in California. You think California's too big? I kind of see it being split in half, maybe north and south as two different states. I don't know. I got to read page 43 of Ian's book.

Yeah, bring it up. This is Writing in the Dark by Ian Crossland. It's funny. It's funny how fire burns straight up. What is it? Electrons, dissembled carbon, that's what it says, or whatever is producing the flame. It's reddish, yellow, blue, white, red, like the American flag. Stars and stripes look like a burning fire. Anyway, it burns away from the center, not necessarily lighter than air,

though it may be. It burns up away from the center of the suck, sucked up away from like anti-gravity. What is it escaping from? Pressure? I have a feeling if you created a system, a pressurized system where there is a pressurized fire and a low pressure side, it may burn sideways, though it may still burn away from the earth's core too many assumptions without experimentation it's it's i gotta tell you man it's just like it sounds like you were stoned and just writing stuff you were thinking well that's been for 20 years man no i know i know this was this was at a very low point in my life but i actually think i i am i am literally uh encouraging that because it's a fascinating like it's a fascinating thing to think about.

Yeah, I wrote it as a joke. I just was bored and depressed. We were starting mine, so I was like, I had some vision in my life, but at the same time, I was totally disenfranchised with the world. With the Federal Reserve, I'd learned about the military-industrial complex. I felt lost. I felt like what you mentioned earlier. I'm feeling right now.

Yeah. Well, no, I love it because you can read what fire is. You know what I mean? You can Google it and look it up. Instead, I would just be like like I'm Charles Bukowski I would drink because I wanted to be like Bukowski I'm like that's not a good reason to start drinking

you didn't beat women did you no I never did that was his big thing they smoked a lot alcohol shrinks your brain we're on the precipice of a global revolution I rolled a 76. I rolled a 76. What? I rolled a 76 in the deck.

What did you roll earlier, by the way? It was me. I rolled a 77, actually. 67? It was something the opposite of yours, yeah. 76 or 1776. They're just going to cross from each other. Yeah, weird.

Something is about to change. I mean, the U.S. is kind of based on chaos. It was a revolution. It kind of is still a revolution. it's a constant revolution against its own government to to keep it unstable so that it never becomes an overarching you know monolith yet it's managed to be so yeah and it still consists and so now we're gonna be up against global powers that want to create massive amounts of social order and we need to maintain this benevolent chaos to allow great laws to come out of of the crappy order you know a bad law should be broken what you're saying

though is that this may be something we're passing through there's the number of ball and that maybe some good will come out and we'll find a new equilibrium which is what my hope is yeah it's a process yeah i do like people i want to believe everyone's the same. Everyone's awesome. Everyone's a god. Everyone's a leader. But like. No.

Yeah. The truth is I think there are better men and then there's the plebs. And I hate that. Well, I mean, there are plenty of people that have unfulfilled potential. That's for sure. And I would love to see everyone fulfill their potential. How about that? How would they?

I watched, you ever see that video of the uh iraqis and afghanis trying to do jumping jacks no oh man let me pull it up oh yeah yeah you know it's uh it's sad because it feels like uh wasted potential and uh is this one it this is this is a black pill oh yeah look at this guy right here yeah like what's he doing hmm they're not called jumping jacks what are they called best do you can't call them jumping jacks well I knew what you called them when you there's a specific thing we had a military guy and explained what they're what they're like they're called something more specific I guess I think those might be jumping jacks actually but look at this guy yeah he's the best what's he doing wow a star jump no it's not a star well but i mean side straddle hop you know that's a kind of a different straddle side straddle hop yeah people get older

their ability to reproduce motor actions and stuff it's like trying to learn a dance or something it's like um is that what it is but but you know i watched that video and i'm just kind of like these the weighted potential there of so many people. There's a myth of the Native Americans. He could have been high off of his you know what. There's a myth of the Native Americans when the conquisters were coming in on the boats. They were out there in the ocean and they would go out and they would look and they would never see boats because they didn't know what a boat was. Clouds.

It was clouds? They said they saw big mountains and clouds. So because that's what they knew, it was real, so that's what they saw. And it was only eventually that one of the shaman was like actually there's something there that I don't understand but I see and so it takes the brain if it doesn't know something exists a great deal of effort to

perceive it and maybe that's the same thing with realizing potential because they don't know that they have it that's interesting I like that yeah Forrest says side straddle hop is what it's called i just i just feel like so much of humanity is wasted potential you know i i hate that they call who's that guy who called him useless eaters yuri uh are you sure you all know harari

he really did and he wasn't like mean about it he's just saying you know utilitarianly there are a class of useless eaters that just and they don't need to be though he's got to go to sapiens all of those people could be engineers and scientists and researchers and writers and singers and artists but the potential is lost well he's arguing because of the latest technological advancements this is going to create a elitist group of people that are going to live like gods and there's going to be a lot of useless people that need to be pacified. I'm not going to sleep tonight. I'm not going to sleep tonight, guys. He literally said he needs to be pacified with drugs and video games.

He hangs out with Russell Brand for some reason. Russell Brand is seen giving him a kiss, but he's known as Klaus Schraub's right-hand man. Really? Yep. Look up your well, Harari. Russell Brand is a sleeper? I don't know what he is,

but he's seen kissing Harari. It's important that we realize they're not our enemies. People there just want something that we have maybe disagree with the method, but they're, they're also human and they want, they understand the world is huge and I don't chaotic. And we need to create a new kind of global community. Yeah. But,

but there was that one video from Klaus Schwab where he was like, I just don't like Ian Groslow. Yeah. He ripped me off. I'm coming to have a conversation with you, brother. He's like sitting there reading your book and he's like, I must wipe out humanity. Me and Alex Jones and Klaus Schwab will figure something out. We need more fun in the world.

We do. I mean, that's funny, right? I want to make a song with Klaus Schwab. I tell you what's fun. I tell you what's fun. Play a pool. Yes. Do you watch the Fast and the Furious movies? No.

Why not? You're making a mistake. I need to go see Top Gun first. That seems like a good idea. I haven't watched those movies, to be honest with you. So in the first Fast and the Furious, it's like a cop, undercover cop. Yeah. And that's it.

Okay, at Fast and the Furious 9, they go to outer space. Tell me that is not the coolest thing ever. It's just like, they've made the weirdest series and I am so ready for Fast and Furious 10 where they're either in Transformers, Megazords, or they get superpowers.

See, that's a more positive thing we can talk about, right? Vin Diesel flying around like Superman. That'd be awesome. Oh, we can go back to talking about the end of the world claude schwab is going to kill ian or something so let's talk about my superhero experience out in the desert where i trained with special ops oh yes what was that all about yeah that's uh forces so yeah i went with a bunch of people out to the desert a bunch of celebrities like mel b and jamie lynn spears and people who turn out to be very very tough

jamie lynn spears yes and uh she was she did really well bunch of a bunch of professional Jamie Lynn Spears and people who turned out to be very, very tough. Jamie Lynn Spears. Yes. How did she do? She was tough. She did really well. A bunch of professional athletes, too. And they did better. Guess what? And, yeah, we went out to the Wadi Rum Desert, where they filmed Star Wars and Dune and all that stuff.

It was 120 degrees. And it was just on. We just were 24-7 in ops force training. It was incredible. How old are you? 64. You're 64? Wow, you don't look 64.

I'm not sure they should have people my age out in those conditions anymore because you'll have to see what happens to me. Oh, boy. But, I mean, how would you do? How do you feel you did? What did you do and how do you do? You're off base all the time. You never know what you're supposed to be doing.

They always punish you. And if you get anything wrong, they punish the whole group. And the punishments was push-ups and crab walking and into the dunk tank and into the mud. Crab walking. Oh, my God. It was so hot out. And then we jumped out of a helicopter backwards. Yeah, but the funny thing is it's like a TV show, right?

Yeah. So you literally could have just been like, I ain't doing it. You could stop at any time. Yeah. You could stop at any time. And you could also opt out of anything you want to opt out of but yeah but people felt i don't know they yeah you get hypnotized by the staff it's really kind of hypnotic state you're in really you you get so they start i the look they come at you from the beginning like in your face

and within about six hours you're wanting to do what they're telling you to do it's very strange and they they really emphasize just trust them and do what we tell you. I think we should have Ian do basic training. Okay. Three months. Well, just because... Oh, you mean like run the basic training? No, do basic training.

Boot camp. I think you might be right. I do need more order in my life. I just don't want it forced on me. I never really like... Because I don't like nonsensical order. When people are like, do it to do it. I don't like that kind of stuff. We should have Ian do Soldier Fit.

Could you imagine, you know, if it entertains and inspires people at this point, because I think what we're talking about is creating a new world order literally, but what we need to do is inspire people to govern themselves and to take control. And if we can be that example, then 12-year-olds that are listening to this show are going to remember it in 20 years.

And be personally responsible, and be healthy, and be happy, and be prosperous individuals. And think about this. I think if we do Soldier Fit and have Soldier Fit come down, and Ian, you did it in the mornings, then it's like, what, three months? Ian's going to be ripped? I'll do it with you. Yeah, I was thinking about doing that today. Oh, gladly, yeah.

I don't want to cut my hair off. I'm bringing another trainer. Don't worry. It'll just be a quick snip. But you don't have to. But I'm bringing another trainer here, and you're welcome to join me. I'm going to be doing the kickboxing here. I'm just saying, like, imagine Ian ripped, pumped full of testosterone, talking about DMT.

He's going to be like, you got to do it. Yeah, I need to get people to take me seriously, man. That's one way to do it is to get strong. I mean, it shows that you're dedicated, and that speaks without words. Discipline. Yeah. Yeah, I think you should do soldier fit. I mean, you know, I'm out skating every day.

Half the crew is out skating, and, you know, it's keeping us fit. We're doing a big trip tomorrow. Ian, you got to get basic training. I did 20 push-ups earlier. I've been looking at myself on the Cass Castle, and I'm like, God, I look so skinny in my posture. My neck is forward. Hey, my staff is freaking out, because apparently your website is sending everybody

to an old TV show I did 14 years ago called Life Changer, as opposed to my YouTube channel, which is where we're trying to send everybody. Yes, your dear wife corrected that, and I had Dave fix it for us. We should be proud of that. Where was that? In the description.

I think in the description. But Dr. Drew, if I could ask you, you've been in the public light for a while especially in the medical field what do you think is one of the biggest misconceptions or like misnomers or things people usually get wrong when it comes to you know medicine or personal health that that that you always see as a continuing trend well oh my god there's so many things yeah one thing that I've been harping on like crazy and this is not

pertinent for everybody but it's pertinent for all the homeless people and it's pertinent for all the crazy drug policies we have had there which is that addiction

substance use disorder is a progressive illness it ends in death so even if you have a heroin injection site where the nurses are administering the heroin, those people will still progress and they will have more increased brain problems, behavioral

problems, medical problems, and they will die. So this is the part that everybody keeps missing. Meth ends in death. Opiates end in death. And that's it, period, no matter how they're getting the drug. Now, you may be able to sort of change the course a little bit or the timing difference, but overall, it's a progressive illness. And that's one piece that drives me crazy. There's other things that I think people are unrealistic about. Even I was. I got to say,

I remember I was getting a physical one time, and it was like the third time I'd come in, my blood pressure was a little high. And I'm like, oh, no, no, I'm going to run some more. I'm going to get out there, run a little longer. I'm going to watch my weight. And she goes, this one physician leaned into me and she goes, you can only outrun your genetics so long. And I thought, oh, my God, she's so right. I need to take a medication. And that there are things as you age that you just have to stay ahead of. And we can extend our life abnormally with medical treatments. Stem cells. I'm not talking about stem cells.

Those are anti-inflammatory. I'm talking about me taking two antihypertensives. I'm talking about me taking a cholesterol medication, that kind of stuff. Once I sort of got out of my denial. We talked a little bit about this before the show. What do you think about NAD? Love it. I take nicotinamide riboside every day.

For those that aren't familiar, NAD therapy, like IV therapy, it's nicotinamide, was it nicotinamide, adenine dinucleotide? It's hitting the oxidative state of the cells. And it may affect aging. It may affect a lot of things. I don't know what you're doing, how often you do it, and how good that is. We have no clinical data on that. But the biology looks very good.

And we do use it in alcoholics in early recovery. And it does help them recover very fast. Yeah, it's a calming mechanism. Since we got COVID, Joe Rogan talks about doing NAD quite often. We've done it regularly, and not nearly as regularly as someone like Joe does, but we get it frequently. And all of my vitals have dramatically improved. There's something to it. Is there a downside? Is there a risk? Risk-reward is always a thing. By the way, this is something that risk-reward analysis was something completely abandoned during COVID,

strangely enough. But risk-reward is about medicine. And there's a lot of things that look good that may have a downside. So I always worry about, until we have enough data, enough experience, I always worry about the potential risks. They say that it triggers cellular regeneration.

Is that the case? Well, I think what it does is it creates the sirtuins. It helps grow sirtuins. I think sirt... It does? What is it? Three and five? I can't tell,

but I know the whole sirtuin story is part of the story, which may help with the aging. Yeah, the sirtuins measure the energy in the mitochondria. So when the cell divides, they make sure there's enough so that the cells

don't have to clip off the end caps of the chromosomes. Telomeres. And so they don't age, essentially. We think. We think. I mean, again, these are very complicated

biologies. So you're saying that if I keep getting NID, I'll live forever. Telomeres. And so they don't age, essentially. We think. We think. I mean, again, these are very complicated biologies. So you're saying that if I keep getting NID, I'll live forever. We'll see. We'll see. I heard if you have cancer, you should avoid it because it goes to your cancer cells and builds them up. Helps them also. Could be.

So there's a lot of different theories out there. I have a prostate cancer. I have a cancer patient. I had a prostate out 12 years ago. What about keto for cancer patients? Have you ever looked at it? There's some data that looks good. But again, this is all on the margins.

We have things. We have treatments. We have data. We know what we're doing with certain stuff. There are things that you can do maybe to help things out. I remember when... I had my prostate moved. And I didn't want that surgeon to be giving me any keto nutrition advice. I wanted him to take out the effing prostate without affecting the pudendal nerve of the penis.

That was important to me. Sounds very important. And I sat down and said, how many of these have you done? He goes, 1,100. I go, how many complications? He goes, a lot of complications with these. I go, zero. I said, let's go.

Do you do meditation? A little bit, I have. Do you look into the placebo effect? Do I believe in the placebo effect? Yeah, they say that. I've heard that it's like effective and they don't really know what it's like. Yeah, I did years and years of psychotherapy,

a certain kind of psychotherapy. And in that psychotherapy, I was in a very deep state with this therapist. It was like very emotionally focused therapy. And so those kinds of deep interpersonal states are extremely renewing to me. So I feel like I'd be a good, like, hypnosis candidate. I think I'd be good for that.

If you ever had the power and influence of, like, Bill Gates or Dr. Fauci, what kind of policies would you push forward for the American people? I would decentralize everything. There you go. That's a beautiful answer. We'll take fans of that.

I would create pathways and advice. When all this centralization and control started happening, when I was probably in the early 2000s, late 90s, I was really deep in my career. I was working 18 hours a day. I was doing psychiatry half the day and then regular medicine the rest of the day. And I just kept saying, if I am such a crappy physician that I need all this oversight and regulation, send me back for more training. I love my training. It's great.

I love training. I just want these clerks telling me what to do. I love my training. It's great. I love training. I just want this clerk telling me what to do, this insurance salesman. This is ridiculous. Or some regulator in Washington determining how I take care of my patients, which is complicated. Have you ever smoked DMT? No. That's like the go-to trippy question.

Well, I'm watching all that very, very carefully. I've talked to him. I'm forgetting the name of the guy that was the founder of MAPS. It's going to come to me in a second. MAPS? Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies. So I am very interested in how psychedelics are going to be useful. It's a fortunate acronym.

Rick Doblin. Wow. Rick Doblin. And it's going to be useful. It's going to be something. But there is a downside there, too. So please, people, don't run ahead of the science. Is the downside

that you actually meet demons and they'll try to steal your soul or is it something more helpful? Well, it depends what you're talking about. There's acid, there's mushrooms, there's different psychedelics with different effects.

Well, listen to Tim. It's the demons that come get you. Pull your soul out of your esophagus. Hey, hey. We all know. That's called a purge. That I know. Don't tempt the fates.

That I know doesn't happen. They feel like it's happening, but that doesn't happen. But I had a terrible reaction to cannabis. Horrible. I'll never touch it again. What was the reaction? I developed something called an anticholinergic delirium. When?

That sounds unfortunate. I was at a party with a very famous person that loves weed, and he was up there talking. And I was talking with him, and there was another guy there who was even more famous for weed, and I thought, I'm going to have to smoke with these guys. And they, of course, handed it to me, took a big hit, and I immediately couldn't feel my hands or my feet.

I got agitated. I couldn't see, and I had to go outside, and it was the most uncomfortable, miserable feeling in my entire life. How long did it last for? I think that was about four hours. That was an overdose. But the syndrome was anticholinergic i had photophobia i had dry mouth at all the usual hell yeah it's what you get from taking a whole fistful of benadryl but i think that's and i had and i had only misery the thing about thc is getting high is an overdose

that's the problem with the stuff and people don't i think most of society thinks that's the the purpose of it but a tiny bit where you don't even know what's in you i had one hit it's a lot it that that's a potent those guys those guys were going nuts on these cigars these blunts they were smoking they were like really going at it i thought oh how bad can it be i'll try it and then i just all of a sudden couldn't walk i was like parkinsonian i was like i was i was like well um i couldn't move around well i couldn't sit down. In a float tank. You ever do one of those float tanks?

No, I'd like to. What? Drugs are bad. Drugs are bad. That's right. No, no. Just get the right dosage. Careful with your brain, everybody.

That's the bottom line. Yes. Actually, the reality is that drugs are just drugs. And if they're used properly, they can be life-saving. Sometimes. And that includes even what people consider to be recreational. I think they're doing PTSD treatments with with what, like MDMA or something? Mushrooms.

Well, that was Goblin's big study. In the right hands, it feels that MDMA, in a well-trained therapeutic setting, MDMA clearly works. I asked you about Ibogaine. And addiction as well. A lot of people who have a hard time quitting heroin or smoking cigarettes usually turn to different forms of psychedelics. There's Ibogaine, there's mushrooms. So Ibogaine, ayahuasca, this stuff, been seeing my patients you know over the years try that stuff and there's i've seen out of probably a hundred cases of people trying to stop usually opiates that's usually what they're trying to stop

um one time they stayed stop the other all the other ones stay stopped for six months and then went back with ibogaine usage and they And then some of them had like persistent personality changes from the Ibogaine too, which was really scary to me. It's like it's one thing to change your personality in a psychotherapeutic setting where you're in control of the whole thing, but you take a substance and it changes who you are. I don't care if you're happier. It's changed who you are.

That is a big problem for me. Bill W. who founded Alcoholics Anonymous used LSD, and all this literature of him saying, well, the reason I stopped drinking is because I had an experience on LSD and I realized I didn't need it anymore. But then when they made AA, they took that out. That story is still around. My understanding is the LSD story came later when he was struggling,

was staying sober. But I don't know. I don't know. Because you're right, it's not in the big book, that's for sure. But to your point, there staying sober. But I don't know. I don't know. Because you're right. It's not in the big book. That's for sure. But to your point, there will be use of these things one day. There will be.

I'm sure of it. I just don't know how much and how to dose it. Yeah, but dosage is key because, I mean, LSD is so powerful. Listen, I'll tell you where it's useful is end-of-life dread. If you have a terminal illness and you are overwhelmed with anxiety and dread, it's very clear that that's helpful. I would do that. This is why I'm worried because throughout the-

Because then who cares if there's an injury? You know what I mean? And I really wanted to ask you this. I'm really worried because the last three years, we saw how far the government, the bureaucrats, big pharma, and doctors stood in the way of actually helping people and treating people and giving them early treatment and actually doing the right thing. It makes you wonder if they did that three years ago because of this health crisis how are they doing it with other health crises how are they doing it with other illnesses and

the opiate addiction look no no exactly exactly that's what i mean let's let's get into that a little a little bit too because we're uh you know we're just outside of west virginia right now and that's it's really bad there they sell uh what is it called kratom is that kratom kratom is that that's for like opiate addiction? It's just a weak opiate. It's just changing one for another. Oh, it is an opiate. Yeah, it's a weak opiate. 100%. So what happens if people go cold turkey?

They have five days of discomfort. Is that it? Yeah. There was never an opiate addict on earth, never once of treating 10,000 drug addicts did I ever go, oh my god, the opiate addicts, how am I going to get them off the opiates? I never had any problem getting them off. Keeping them off is a problem. We were at Blue Ridge Rock Fest, huge rock festival this past weekend.

And in the staff artist section was a tent that said, free Narcan for artists and staff. And I was just like, dude, that is brutal. We should all be carrying it around. It's all over the place. It's just sad that you need to. Hey, I had an interaction when I had to save someone's life and had to give them cpr and thank goodness the person turned blue i was in the car with them and i was the only one that wasn't driving the car and the the passenger was was you know turning blue and just because they they took some heroin and i literally had to give them cpr and they almost died this close

can you explain what causes it like when an overdose happens what causes the death what causes stop breathing yeah is that is that all it is i have to give cpr and literally push air into their lung why do you stop breathing it depresses it depresses the respiratory drive and if you add a benzodiazepine to it, it really very much does it. And then they literally turn blue. Right, right, right. What does Narcan do? Narcan, it saturates the opioid receptor sites in the brain and just pushes the opiate away. And you wake right up.

In fact, you go into acute withdrawal. But it's painful, right? It's painful for people when they get Narcan? Because they go into withdrawal. Yeah, yeah. They go right into withdrawal. They get very agitated. And I heard it's really bad for your organs as well.

Eh, no. Okay. I've heard wrong. Yeah, I mean, it has some hepatic stuff, but no. Narcan would be used even in the case of, like, an opioid pill overdose. And any opioid. Any opioid. Anything.

Wow. It works, boom, pow. Is Narcan an opiate? No, it's an opiate blocking. Well, it binds an opiate receptor site. It's not an opiate. Opi's an opiate blocking well it's an it binds it opiate receptor sites not opiates opiates are poppy derived right right that's technically what i hope you wow all of them are opiates opioids are synthetic like so fentanyl is a synthetic uh drug you know does the human body produce as endorphins endorphins and then these simulate that and

flood the site yeah yeah i mean it's i thought we went to Afghanistan for the poppy. And it's almost laughable, but like. We don't need it. We got fentanyl. So then. So explain fentanyl. Fentanyl is a super hyper powerful synthetic opioid. Super powerful.

And it's being manufactured in Mexico and brought up here. It's being put in everything. So kids are dying accidentally. People that aren't even drug addicts are dying. I heard a story recently that a woman found a bag and then opened it and looked inside and just passed right out those kinds of stories I think are apocryphal

I really do, through the skin and the inhales, I don't know don't take too much of that, but you take a Xanax pill that is really in fact fentanyl and it gets under your tongue boy that is bad times you just die right? is it addictive fentanyl? profoundly it gets under your tongue. Boy, that is bad times. You just die, right? Mm-hmm. You stop breathing.

Is it addictive, fentanyl? Oh, boy. Profoundly. I mean, the heroin addicts prefer it now. They prefer it. That's what they go to. Now, we have all the heroin addicts because we created all the opiate addicts when we were overprescribing, right?

Yeah. We just let people have whatever they want. Pain control is what the patient says it is. But we were sanctioning doctors like me for inadequate treatment of pain because I didn't, I didn't, I got in trouble repeatedly for not giving opiates to my heroin addicts in withdrawal because they were uncomfortable. Wow. Can you, that's how insane it was. And that was the joint commission.

That was the department of mental health. That was California medical association. That was the VA. It was ridiculous. How does, how does tolerance build up happen? You, they think the receptors just changed their, either their configuration or their biology slightly. the VA, it was ridiculous. How does tolerance buildup happen? They think the receptors just change either their configuration or their biology slightly. You need more and more.

You need more to get the same effect, essentially. And then so even though you're not feeling the effect, it's still the same threshold for death from overdose? For the most part. The respiratory, you don't get tolerance to that stuff. Yeah. Certainly not with fentanyl. And by the way, again, the deadly combo is the benzodiazepine and the opiate. And what is that?

What is that? Valium-like drugs. Ativan, Valium, Klonopin. I think they're taking Ativan off the market. We saw what happened to Jordan Peterson. Yeah. That was super complicated. What was he taking?

Klonopin. Klonopin. Klonopin. Klonopin. That was a super complicated situation he was in. Man. Super complicated. What happens with the opiate and the benzo? They're synergistic so you can take a small amount of opiate a small amount of

and you're not breathing wow synergistic so it's not additive it's multiplied they're they're receptor say it just it just it just multiplies it rather than adding the effect on respiratory suppression it's like the opium wars but done internally inside of the United States by Big Pharma. Well, no. Well, look, the opiates. Look, it's China sending it to the cartels. It really looks to me like what England and the United States did to China in the 19th century. Yeah, exactly.

The opium wars. The opium wars. It's a long game. And the opium wars never ended. It seems like it, doesn't it? And we're not fighting it. We're doing nothing. That's what I mean.

We're letting people die. To me, it's more of an inside job. It drives me crazy because these people's brains are not working right. When you get them well, they're like, who left me like that? Who did that to me? Of course I wanted to keep doing it.

I was a drug addict. And when you get them out, it's hard to get them out of it. You need a unified team one person can't do it you need a team of people and just let them do it they will die and now on streets of los angeles it's six seven a day yeah what would be an example of someone suffering that you help or a group of you help how would i do it yeah you watch celebrity rehab sort of where watch what watch celebrity rehab i mean several of those people were created during

the opioid crisis jeff conway was the poster child for the opioid epidemic. And it's not just China. I would just say, you know, the United States government has a history of importing drugs into the United States in order to, of course, cripple poor populations. One last question, because I think we're going to super chats. Do you have any comments on seed oils? Because there's like a whole bunch of personalities, a whole bunch of people talking about studies saying how seed oils are inflammatory.

They are. For you. I'm a huge fan of, oh about studies, saying how seed oils are inflammatory. They are. I'm a huge fan of, oh, my God, I'm blanking on her name now. She wrote a book called Deep Nutrition. Kate Shanahan. Kate, help me. Looking it up. I'm sorry. She's a family practitioner.

Dr. Kate Shanahan. Yeah, and she's a biochemist. And when I first, and she used to advise the Lakers. She's a very fine biochemist and a very fine family practitioner. And the first time I spoke to her was probably 15 years ago. And I was like, oh, another nutrition thing. Sure, just show me the chemistry because you're a biochemist. So I'm going to make you show me the chemistry because nobody can.

And she looks at me and she goes, you can't say anything about nutrition. It's way too complicated. There's certain things I can tell you about. I can talk to you about seed oils, and I can talk to you about polyunsaturated fats when you heat them up, what happens and they cause cancer

and that's what I harp on and the seed oils definitely cause a big part of the problem. And there's a huge increase of cancer especially when we start using artificial seed oils,

canola oil, sunflower oil. She thinks it's part of the COVID story too. I don't know if I went all the way there. I think so too as well especially when it comes

to the gut and the immune system because many people said and many doctors are even recommending kefir and fermented food in order to deal with COVID. And a lot of doctors also thought that the medicine that we talked about earlier in the show was helping people

because they got rid of parasites in their guts and made their guts work properly, which made their immune systems work properly. That was one thesis that some doctors had. So that's being's a we're being worked out yeah exactly we still don't know but it's being worked out it's not even parasites it's bacterial balance and what they should but the gut is key to your gut seems to be key to your health i'm mispronouncing kate's name what is it it's not shanahan it's help me is it shanahan

let me pull that back up um i'm bad with pronouncing any kind of name Shanahan is how it's spelled S-H-A-N-A Dr. Kate Shanahan Okay that's her I've been avoiding a lot of seed oils And I've seen an increase in my health And it's everywhere

You go to the supermarket it's everywhere Listen to this I have terrible large vessel vascular disease in my family. I have what's called metabolic syndrome, so I'm insulin resistant. I have hypertriglyceridemia. I'm hypertensive. And I was like, I don't want – my dad had terrible vascular disease. I'm like, I don't want this.

So I started focusing early. I got on statins early, smashed my LDL very easily. But my HDL was always low, and my triglycerides were always high until I started eating more red meat and cutting out carbohydrates completely. And boom. I mean, I've never had numbers like this. Good or bad? Really good. Like really good. I cut out most of the sugars. I cut out bread. Carbohydrates the enemy for certain people and animal fats are not as bad as we thought exactly and they're key for your brain i'm looking up the coconut is they say it's a seed a nut and a

fruit but is that's not coconut oil is not the seed oil they're talking about so when they say seed oil is it like a refined palm soy oil canola oil sunflower oil even a lot of olive oil and avocado oil is mixed in with these inflammatory oils he's right and they're pretend oils they're not real oils and when you take them you think you're taking something good and they actually cause massive amounts of inflammation massive amount of gut irritation instead of the stem cell exactly that's what i've been trying to tell him i'm like i'm like you got fried food today i'm like no no no i had the ribeye this is interesting because inadvertently i would say i cut out a substantial amount of seed oils for my diet without even thinking about it.

Because now, like when I make eggs, I used to, I would splash a little olive oil or something in there. Now it's just bacon. I use the bacon to grease the pan. Tallow is better. And then I put the eggs right into the bacon grease. And then I pour the bacon grease over the eggs to make sure I get all of it. Look at you. But follow your cholesterol.

Some people, our lipid metabolism is all different one from another. And just make sure you're the person that can do that. And then I pour a quarter of a cup of heavy cream into my coffee. Yeah. So that's all my stuff. That's the. Awesome. Yeah.

I live that way. Let me tell you, the most delicious thing ever is the Mark Lobliner's Outright Bar. It's a peanut butter protein bar. Do you have one downstairs? We got a bunch. We'll give you some. Thank you. I love it.

And the Nitro Cold Brew with heavy whipping cream. Oh, yeah. And that together. Nitro, is that the Caveman Coffee? Nitro? Or just any Nitro? We have Starbucks and we have, I think it's called High Brew.

But eating that protein bar and then washing it down with coffee, it's just so good. But you got to be careful. The Quest Bars have vegetable oils. Oh, yeah, yeah. Sour Patch Kids, vegetable oils. It's everywhere. with coffee. It's just so good. But you got to be careful. The Quest bars have vegetable oils. Yeah, yeah. Sour Patch Kids, vegetable oils. It's everywhere. And sugar. It's crazy. But I stopped eating all that stuff. I literally go down the supermarket

and almost everything has it. I make sure I verbally say it out loud so hopefully the next person hears me, I'm like, oh no! Ugh! Canola oil. This is cancer. Put it back. And I have to spend an hour extra at the supermarket because I'm looking at the because you're yelling at customers don't eat that yes one of the things we've not talked about

i mentioned i think before the mics heated up was about the estrogens and in the in all the plastics oh yeah i'm becoming increasingly convinced that that's a major part of what's going on soy boys are real i just think i think there's a book called estrogenation that i first got exposed to this estrogen nation and it just uh i think that's what book called Estrogenation that I first got exposed to this, Estrogenation. And it just, I think that's what it's called. Am I getting it there? And it just freaked, I started looking at it and thought, yeah, God, the way the sperm is down, reproductive activity is down, men are kind of, you know what I mean?

Kids aren't having sex anymore. What the hell? Hey, boys, Bill Gates has man boobs. He eats fake meat. What do you think? Of course, obviously. It's Estrogeneration. Estrogeneration by Elizabeth Wurzel. Oh, this is a guy.

You know what? That scares me. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to eat a whole pack of bacon for breakfast every day from now on. I've heard that it's the stuff that they're spraying. Fasting and fruit is good too, you know? No, it's fructose. Fructose is bad.

No. Fruits are good. Limited amounts. Fruits are good. I've heard with soy, a lot of it's what they're spraying on the soy before harvest. Glyphosate. We got to go to Super Chats. We're going to go to Super Chats.

We haven't talked about fasting yet. We will. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, because ladies and gentlemen, oh, they're censoring us. Oh, really? Back to the medical stuff. Well, if you want to hear where the really stuff is that gets censored, come watch my

stuff. Yeah, absolutely. Where can they find you? Do you finish first? People have been saying that they're not getting notifications. And so if you want to help us combat that, then you guys can be the notification and just share the video. We're going to read super chats from all you guys. So find me at Dr. Drew.com for all the pods and then Dr. Drew.tv for the Tuesday, Wednesdaynesday thursday three o'clock pacific time streaming show but that wednesday three o'clock pacific time show is the one where i'm interviewing all the physicians that have been silenced we're talking to them in great detail about what

happened and putting it all together trying to figure out what happened here and i want to say you know now that now that you're here and you're on the spot live we got to have you come back with adam carolla because that would be like a millennial grand slam you know we all watch we all listen to love line you know with you guys hilarious man so Carolla because that would be like a millennial grand slam. I'd love to. We all listen to Loveline with you guys. He's hilarious, man. So that would be really awesome. But let's read Superchats. People have questions for you.

Here's the important one. War Chicken Apoyo says, Dr. Drew, are you a real doctor or a love doctor? It's kind of a greeting from the old Loveline days because people get confused about what I am because I do a lot of interpersonal stuff and so they think that I'm one of these TV doctors. No, I've practiced medicine for many, many, many years.

General medicine. Agamemnon's gym bag says, the Lotus Eaters found the people accusing you of stealing their spoons. Look into spoonies and spoon theory. I don't trust you. I don't know what that means. I have no idea what that means. That's a weird trick.

But by the way, I also exist at your mom's house with Tom Segura and his wife, Christina P. I have a new YouTube channel there. The show is called Dr. Drew After Dark, which is sort of an incarnation of Loveline. Oh, cool. I love those guys. Dr. Drew After Dark. And so I'm part of that world.

I go to Austin every six weeks and work with them. Who is that female? Do you guys have a female doctor on the show, Dr. Judy or something? Was she around that time? With us? Yeah. No, they were trying to compete with us. I see.

So maybe they were on at different times. Yeah. Spoon theory is a real thing, Tim. You should look into it. What is it? A metaphor describing the amount of physical and mental energy that a person has available for daily activities and tasks. Oh, I got way too much.

Freud believed that. Freud believed there was like a unit of mental sort of, almost like he had sort of a, like a steam engine kind of model for the human brain. And you can increase it, I'd imagine, right? I imagine, yeah. I don't think, I don't necessarily adhere to that,

but yeah. I tell people I don't have the bandwidth for it right now. It's a new term I use. Maybe it's a little technical. I get older. I wake up. Bandwidth strengths.

I wake up 7 a.m., I'm working by 8 a.m., I finish work around 11 p.m., and then I stay up for two hours watching TV shows. I've been watching Breaking Bad. I love it. And then I only go to sleep because I know I 7 a.m. I'm working by 8 a.m. I finish work around 11 p.m. And then I stay up for two hours watching TV shows. I'm watching Breaking Bad. I love it. And then I only go to sleep because I know I have to.

I'm like, if I don't go to bed, then, you know. You love your work. Your work is your play. There's nothing better than that. But I just mean, you know, people accuse me of drugs or something. And I'm like, just coffee. How many hours a night of sleep do you need? Me?

At least five and a half. Yeah. So some people need four or five. Most people need eight. That's the way it is. And the guys who need four and a half, they just need four and a half and that's it. What do you think about coffee? Is that, are people overdosing on coffee to their detriment? We don't know. I mean, I wash coffee very carefully because I'm a caffeine addict and all that data just keeps coming up positive. For a long time we thought it might

have caused pancreatic cancer. That's been completely debunked. Now it decreases the risk of Parkinson's and Alzheimer's. Decreases the risk and depression. And humanity's progression is also correlated with the use of caffeine.

Really? I like that. See, if no civil war, we're going to get better. You guys aren't depressed anymore. Back when clean water was hard to come by, they would drink beer.

But then when they got coffee, they would drink beer. Yeah. When they got coffee, they started drinking coffee instead and that was when the Enlightenment came. Ooh, I like that. Maybe we're going to have a new... I think... I was also saying before the mics heated up that when Alexander the Great's empire fell apart,

stoicism came up and it's just interesting how stoicism is coming into the sort of consciousness. Yeah, I want to talk. What is it exactly? We've got to read super chats. Okay, go. Red Muskrat says, please stop referring to yin and yang and good and evil.

It's more still and moving. A puddle of water is yin. A tsunami is yang. Both are water. I was raised Taoist. Ian would especially appreciate it. Great for meditation. I like it.

But stillness is just really fast moving that you don't perceive maybe that's the point eric christensen says when i was homeless in new york city 20 years ago i was offered a one-way bus ticket to miami by my social worker i mean south park did a whole episode about it yeah where they put all the homeless people on buses and send them to the next city yep that was what that was happening for a while. Repopulation. Now they put them on planes. And old war punishment. Gosh, you started talking about time and time perception. I've been listening to a lot of physics podcasts. I'm a total nerd on stuff. Yeah, I think the universe is twisting around on itself

rather than expanding. And when we find a singularity, it's when we twist back towards the center. It's like a double torus. Okay, yeah, I know what you're talking about, but I just don't know that time even exists. It's not. It's motion.

Everything's moving. Change, yeah. Dan Ines says, if you think the government cares, remember they spent a decade or so telling people to eat more bread. Yeah. Look at the food pyramid.

Yeah. It still hasn't been dismantled. Yeah. It was a ridiculous and ill-founded and without any evidence sent down from on high. And they came out with a new one saying that Cheerios and Frosted Flakes are a lot more healthier than red meat. There's a new food thing that they came out with.

It's absolutely mind-boggling. Centralization of authority is a bad thing in medicine. Is it purely just because they want to sell wheat because that's what we grow? I don't know who influenced them. I just think there's a whole, yeah, the corn there, but there was a whole story

about where the food pyramid came from. One guy invented it and he was just a hubristic guy, you know. OMG Puppy says, lithium in the drinking water, quote, better a gram than a dam from Brave New World. Drugging the population

is an old progressive idea from British Fabians in America in the 1920s. Interesting. Ankush Narula says, Dr. Drew, instead of lithium, how about graphene? Are you familiar with graphene? No. There we go.

It's pure carbon. Hexagonally lattice. I actually have some here. Everybody listening to the show knows. I don't know about ingesting the stuff, but it's going to become the 21st century steel building material. It's electrically conductive, capacitative. It could be a battery and a wire at once.

You can make clothing out of it. You can make touchscreen wallpaper out of this. You can extract carbon dioxide out of the air and convert it into graphene as a building material. Let's go. It's happening. Come on. DB says, seeing what happened to Tommy Loren today, it's bad.

Yeah, a civil war is here, IMO, and most don't see it and don't believe it. What happened to Tommy Loren? I don't know. I just saw chaos at one of her. She was giving a speech, and they said violent protest outside, and I heard people yelling. Whoa.

Did they get to her? I don't know. I don't think so. I imagine that would have been the topic, the headline. So I'm going to look it up. We'll see what happens. Awful. My mood's elevating, elevating those we talk here

it's better time and space and emotion of entropics all right i'm trying to i'm i really wanted to find some good questions for you dr drew so i'm just i'm kind of screening they're not asking any good ones uh it's mostly comments you know does anybody have any questions about yeah have you when you get into like psychoactactives, do you think the consciousness is more... Personally, I feel like consciousness is more involved with physical health than people realize at this time. Have you dealt down that red line? I don't think that a single brain theory of consciousness is digging in the wrong hole. I think that if a feral child who got lost in the woods at six months comes out at 14,

like remember that movie Eve or whatever it was? She couldn't speak. It was L or Eve. Anyway. Sorry, I don't watch movies. Stranger Things? No, no, no, no. It was a long time ago.

But in any event, if that child came out of the woods at 15, they wouldn't be able to speak. They wouldn't have consciousness in the way we think of consciousness. Consciousness comes out as a result of seeing ourselves reflected in other people. It's a second-order interpretation of our primary experiences. And so we can see ourselves literally through another pair of eyes. And we develop that through being reflected. I want an Internet video, too. I'm going to read this out.

I see myself. It's crazy. JKG says, Dr. Drew, Adam and Loveline saved my life. 18 years sober today and a father to an eight-year-old daughter. Thanks, Drew.

Congratulations. Well done. Right on. Works if you work it, man. Derpy, Derp Eyes says, Dr. Drew, After Dark is based AF.

So glad to see him here a conversation i never expected but absolutely love kisses mommy okay so so at your mom's house they have a lot of greetings uh calling each other mommy jeans hey jeans hey hitler it's just you have you have to see the videos to understand i'll be you bet i'll be coming up in may there's just a whole bunch of phrases from videos we all watch at your mom's house. Drew, it looks like the movie you were talking about is Nell. Nell, that's it. Doc Q says, Dr. Drew, who's your favorite comedian you've interviewed with YMH?

Have any left you speechless like the best-selling book by Michael Knowles? Many have left me speechless. speechless uh lately uh uh you know a christina p i did work with for a long time and i just really like the way her brain she's so smart she's one of my favorite interviews and uh most recently uh tony henchcliffe from kill tony who's which is up right now you can watch him and uh the skank guys like l Luis Gomez, those are interesting guys. Legion of skanks. Legion of skanks. I went on the Legion of skanks

and I was like, I'm talking about a fish out of water, but I loved it. Dave Smith, he's part of that. He was on the show last week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jen Desai says, I'd like to know what Dr. Drew thinks

about transhumanism and how it applies to the new executive order on advancing biotechnology and biomanufacturing. And what, they have to define what they mean by transhumanism.

Well, it's a variety of things. Yeah, I know. What do you think about Neuralink? You want to get the chip hooked into your brain? The biggest problem with that is it's never going to work because, first of all, they have to be replaced regularly. And secondly, if you drill a hole in somebody's skull, no

matter how small... Neck. What do you mean neck? They're going to feed it up from the neck? Yeah. Really? Is that their plan? I'm pretty sure that's what they do with pigs or whatever and monkeys. And there's very, very thin wires that just rest on the nerves. Anything touches brain, it kills cells.

Anything. So you're putting repeatedly. If you could do it wireless, yeah, then you're using magnets and stuff. We have that. We do that. Yeah. That'd be fine. Electroencephalograms.

No, no, we do for, it's for treatment, transcranial magnetic stimulation for treatment of depression. Oh, yeah.

If you, so if, I mean, you say it can't be done. No, I can't be done with, it can be done. Current technology.

No, no, if they, if they use magnets and magnetic fields, then I'm all in. No, no, no. If they use magnets and magnetic fields, then I'm all in. Well, I'm just saying like we may eventually develop

a technology for some kind of conductor that wouldn't kill the brain that allows data transmission. Then I'm in. Then I'm in. You're in. No, I'm in for that.

You'd plug your brain into the machine? Oh, would I do it? As long as it didn't take over like intermittently, I think it'd be very interesting. Yeah, right. It's like in Star Trek.

Well, right now, this thing's taken over. I lost my phone. I left it in the car before I went over here. It's the weirdest feeling in the world now. When you lose your phone, you feel completely naked and lost. It's crazy. This is a good one from Diane Reynolds. What are Dr. Drew's thoughts on mass psychosis?

Oh, mass formation psychosis. So, all right. You ready? I think we're experiencing it heavily with the cult of the liberal establishment. There's something going on, that's for sure. So this, again, I'm so bad with names. This guy, this Belgium, Belgium, what do you call him? He's from Belgium. He's a psychologist. Belgian. Belgian, there we go. Belgian psychologist. It's too late at night. Wasn't spitting it out. Belgish.

Yeah. He came up with this notion of the mass formation psychosis. The idea is if you have lots of free-floating anxiety, very limited social connections, and lack of meaning, that it's very easy for people to get swept into things, swept into movements, and most particularly into sort of tribal movements that include rituals like wearing a mask. And the more those rituals are disconnected from any evidentiary reality, the less masks are useful, the more they cling to them as a signal of their group participation. And if you're somebody who has been away from a group and really feels isolated, and now here's a way to stay connected and say, I'm a part of it. I wear that mask outside. The more ridiculous, the better, to let you know I'm all into that group.

And this becomes rather psychotic, right? It becomes histrionic. It becomes hysterical. I said at the very, during Trump's, I guess probably two or three years into Trump's administration, I kept saying, there's something going on where people are becoming histrionic. They're becoming psychotic. If you had come to me six, seven years ago and kept talking about Nazis, and you're seeing Nazis everywhere,

and told me that there was a Russian operative in the Oval Office, I would put you in the hospital. 51-50? That is a psychotic symptom. And there is a free-floating psychotic. and then the paranoia is on the other side, these paranoid conspiracy preoccupations. So there is definitely the circumstances that can set up a mass formation. There is definitely psychotic symptoms flying around.

And back when I wrote a book about narcissism 15 years ago, I wanted to put a chapter in about what happens when narcissists get stressed and how they form mobs and then start using guillotines. I wanted to look at other examples in history. Only thing I could find was the Aztecs and pre-revolutionary France, and France being the best example of how we treat kids, very similar in pre-revolutionary France, how we traumatize kids sexual sexual abuse physical abuse abandonment neglect massive pandemic of that creates a lot of ptsd and narcissism and and cluster b personality disorders and they tend to form mobs and act out their

aggression uh collectively like that with scapegoating with scapegoating i wonder if hitler was one of those too because he was beat up beat up in World War I. It wasn't just him. The whole country was beat up in World War I. So there was this trauma. Yeah, and so the scapegoating became the Jews. I think, based on what I've seen, how people, I think, mass formation psychosis. Something, something like that.

That may not be the exact construct, but it's a pretty good one. I'm like, there are people that I've known my whole life, they've literally gone insane. and it there's no other explanation insane is exactly it like the things i see them posting online the things they've said to me i'm like you don't live in the real world anymore yeah they it's just it's like it's really strange but you say like seeing nazis everywhere it's actually like what we actually see in the in in in mainstream conversations they still believe the russia hoax yeah there are still it's a it's

a world that was crafted upon a a a false reality and maybe it's because of the media well the media has been inflaming it for sure social media has been inflaming it but think about this someone today their whole worldview is built upon six years of fake news. Yeah. Seven years. I know. Starting with Trump's campaign, Russia hoax, and all that stuff. Yeah.

And one by one, their worldview is built upon how do you go back seven years to correct someone's shattered psyche? You can't. You get such powerful cognitive dissonance, and you can see it when they start attacking the person who exposes them to this. Right. The ad hominem arguments tells you the cognitive dissonance has been triggered. I think part of it is that humans are scared to be wrong for a variety of reasons.

Well, we're wired this way. against is any change to our physical being but it turns out the same uh resistance to change of our physical beating is wired into our self the self can't be changed and part of the self is our belief system what i what i was i read this a long time ago and and uh i i don't know exactly what it was it's been too long but it's that you know our mind is developing until the array until about the age of 24 is that is that right around, 24 to 28 or something like that? I hate to think that's true, but it is about true. Well, men, 27, 28, really. But that's like, and then you're an adult, and then your brain stops.

And I was reading about why people have emotional breakdowns and panic attacks and things like that. And they said, humans evolved to defend their worldview, because if you've made it to the age of 25, you've succeeded. Whatever it is you were doing, succeeded. You survived. You survived. And this will keep you alive and your children.

If this is wrong and it breaks, you are now at risk. So what happens is humans who would make dramatic changes at some point in their life would have a lower success rate and be more likely to die.

Not definitively, but it's just basic attrition. From an evolutionary perspective, you're saying. Yes. Over a long enough period of time, those that were firm in their beliefs were more likely to survive. Correct. So if someone is, say, 35 years old and they've built their worldview, and then you enter into logic that is indisputable and it breaks that.

It puts them at risk of not surviving. And thus they retreat to an emotional space of anger to try and reject what you've said because it will make them less likely to survive. And religion was always a big part of that. And people fought wars over these things. And now the new religion is political. And so we are coming up to seven years now of fake news hoaxes. And there are people today

who believed that story from seven years ago about Russia and the Alpha Bank and all that. They still believe it. They will not entertain reality. And there is no way for us to rewind the clock seven years to someone. I mean, seven years, every cell in your body, they say, has changed.

Your whole being is built on a fictitious reality i don't see how you solve that problem wait seven years or seven more years of correcting it we'd have to shut down we have to we have to it's going to be longer than that cnn's you know they're they're going they're transforming dramatically we have to gain a sphere of influence to the point where it's undeniable what do you mean by that reality is undeniable the russian who needs to get a sphere you need to have a sphere of people people who are not psychotic people are connected to reality yeah yeah yeah concentric spheres yes yes need to gain control over the like and i don't mean any one person centralizing control i'm saying the systems of influence need to be overwhelmingly run by

those who are in objective reality. That is, the Russiagate stuff was a hoax. Trump wasn't a Russian agent. There's not Nazis everywhere. The total amount of white supremacists in the country, according to I think the ADL, I'm not sure, it's like 10,000 people, not several million like the media is lying about. Once these big networks like Vox, which claimed they said like millions of people were white supremacists or shared those views. It's insane. Once they lose influence and stop this, then these people who are experiencing mass formation psychosis might be forced out rather painfully, I might add.

But it's the only way. To get someone out of a cult, you have to remove them from the cult and cut off their connection. But they have it. But oftentimes, but this is a really interesting point. I've not thought of it this way. If you look at it through the prism of cult, there is often a, I forget what they call it, like when things rush in, when there's a sudden, fully sort of a collapse of their cult views and a rush in of reality.

It's uncomfortable. It's painful. It takes a while to adjust to it. But it's not a slow process. It's a fast process. I was listening to a podcast on the way in here about the JFK sort of conspiracy theory. It was a guy who was a conspiracy theorist most of his young life and then started actually reading the reports of what the evidence was one way or the other. And it all of a sudden just crushed in on him one day.

And he had to change his whole outlook in one day. And that's very common with cultish kinds of views. So it may happen all at once to people. Wanted to tell you. Well, because of cell phones, these people can always reconnect with the cult to reaffirm their cult worldview. Yeah. And that's a scary reality. Yes.

All right. We got this from J. Crane. O2 says, former opioid user. I was shot in Afghanistan by a sniper and was put on oxycodone and took me over seven years to get off. Nearly killed myself over the withdrawal. So sorry. Suboxone. Is that how you pronounce it?

Yep. Saved my life. Vets are dying. So what? I was going to say when I was in 26, 2014, I had a kidney stone. They gave me Percocet. I took one and it was the most intense feeling I have ever had and I never took another pill and I got rid of it.

Yeah, yeah. But as good as I felt, once I was done, I was terrified and I just never took one again. Well, if you want to know how different the biology of one brain versus another is, so I had a big surgery I told you about earlier and I had to take some Percocet afterwards. I hated it. It felt awful. I couldn't stand it. Really?

That's different biology i i gotta tell you it it it it's an it was indescribable the feeling yeah a lot of people my my opiate addicts can't cannot literally can't believe that i didn't like it that's like incomprehensible to them i would i would describe it as like a uh sharp good feeling, acute. It was like there was a ball of warmth and love and energy in my core radiating to every fiber of my body. Warm blanket, mother, those sorts of feelings.

Yeah, I get the opposite. I get sort of dysphoric and awful and irritable. And I looked at it and I was like, I know exactly why this kills people. Cannabis does that to some people too. That's when they get addicted to it. as well they get a pleasure center from the same thing same phenomenon booze does that doesn't do that for me but uh suboxone uh medically assisted treatment excellent it helps it saves some lives it's uh i it's sort of overdone and

people aren't encouraged to get off it soon enough and there's problems with it but it it saves lives no doubt regarding uh mass formation i wonder if you've noticed this phenomenon of people saying right after they'll make a statement. It's been about five or six years. I've noticed it very much in the last two where they'll be like, they'll be talking to you, right? And they'll say something that, you know, the UFO is floating, right? And they say right as if it's almost like a cult identifier

or like they're not confident that what they're telling you is real. I have noticed myself that I always have to check in with people and make sure they're hearing me. I don't know if it's because of the acrimony that's out there. I always find myself going, am I making sense?

Do you hear me? Do you understand what I'm saying? Because there's so much conflict triggered just by misunderstanding each other. That's where I check in like that. So there's like a fear, like a sociological fear that people aren't,

that the individual's not being heard? They're not hearing us. I've been studying French lately, and they're very big on saying, tu vois, tu vois, do you see, do you see? Constantly they say that. And it caught my ear because when I studied French when I was younger, I didn't remember them saying that. So it's happening there too. Interesting, right? Yeah, yeah.

By the way, French have been very intriguing. I don't know if you've been following what happened. I was in Paris a year ago, and the youth were in the streets demonstrating against the overreach of the government. I was like, whoa. Their whole thing was, hey, you told us this illness isn't so bad for us as a young person, a thin young person,

but you're going to force us to take a vaccine with unknown potential consequences? That is not liberté. That's not what this country's founded on i was like wow how appealing to have young people fighting for their for the principles upon which the republic was founded yeah there's a lot of protests globally but they were just censored and no one was supposed to know about them well you didn't you didn't know in this country it was the opposite they wanted more masking more this more of that it's like oh my god

whoo all right kane the fourth says would any of the modern day psychosis have any relation to the collective unconscious well you know first you have to say is there a collective unconscious i i believe there's a collective something for sure and the collective something has been going in a certain direction lately yes and it has contributed to this this general whatever this is yes for sure i i don't's not even a collective unconscious, but it's certainly a state that we are all in. It's brain entrainment. Have you heard of this entrainment phenomenon where external stimuli will alter the way that the brain functions?

Yeah, it does. But it's really, look, we've scared an entire world. We locked down a world. It's just unthinkable things we've been through. Of course, there's going to be effects on it. But started before this though i mean you're right it started six years ago with yeah with trump it's like it's like all trump derangement or something or that triggered it or started it or something and and and now it's not trump anymore it's it's become a general derangement syndrome well also you know i i think there was an obama derangement syndrome too i

remember some of the weird stuff people would send me about him. I was like, come on. And then it escalated with Trump, and then it really went wild during COVID. All right, everybody. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. I can look at the analytics we have for this show, and I can clearly tell something has been going on, especially this past week, especially today. And we're getting a ton of messages from people who are saying they can't find it in search. The notifications aren't popping up.

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deplatformed we don't always agree on everything which is what makes it interesting and then she and i interview the people that have all been jay badacharya and melo all the names you've heard i we interview them all all of them and really get and repeatedly as time goes on and uh adam and drew i have an adam and drew show i have a doctor who podcasts uh and then i have the your mom's house dr dr it's all dr.com dr tv please come on over i'd love to see the timcast world over there be fantastic yeah it'd be cool yeah thanks. Thanks for coming. For sure. Do I have to go? No, we've got to talk about terrain theory.

Terrain theory. I was so depressed before. I will come back. We're doing a picnic tomorrow if you want to come out. Yeah, I've got to go to New York tomorrow. But it's like,

this is not the, I'm so impressed that people come out here. I love that they come to you. You know what I mean? Far away. This is far away. This is far away.

Well, we pay to fly people in. But they come. And to me, I wanted to be here and I thought i thought wow all these people come that's that is a really significant endorsement of what you're doing so congratulations i appreciate it man yeah it's not you most people can't get people to do this and i and i'm going to tell you this too i mean listening to loveline every night when i was a kid you've had a big influence on me growing up and i think it must be weird for you you know you're you're older you walk in and the first in and the first thing I was like, Hey, nice to meet you. I was like, I used to listen to your show all the time when I was a kid, when I was a kid, or my mom loves you,

or my grandmother loves you, which is even worse. But yeah, but I look to me, it's, it's, uh, I've had this extraordinary life. I've had this extraordinary clinical experience, this media stuff. Where did this come from? It was all just this serendipitous thing that happened to me. I never planned any of it. Are your patients, like, is it weird for them? They're like, you're Dr. Drew. So I have two, you know, most, all my medical patients I've followed for 20 years. And they're like, go get them and do your thing.

You know, and they're all now in their 75 and plus, you know, a lot of them are. So that doesn't bother them. On the addiction medicine side, you know, I ran a big program in a hospital with very sick patients, with Shelly and Bob and all the people you saw at Slevy Rehab. And these patients would come in and they would say, you know, I was watching this show and I realized I couldn't deny it any longer. And they're like, and you were there? And you were there?

Like, what's your boss? And then to a person they go, oh, good, you can help me. Let's just help me. I want to feel better. And that was it. So nothing ever really comes of they go, oh, good. You can help me. Let's just help me. I want to feel better. And that was it. So nothing ever really comes of it otherwise, which is nice. And so I can live in two. I live in a lot of very different worlds.

And I am so grateful. So back to your point about making a difference. That's all I've ever wanted to do is make a difference, help people. And that's it. And to say that I've done that is I'm very grateful. Well, this was a great conversation. And I think it also helped a lot of people. So thank you so much for coming on.

I really appreciate it. Thank you for doing your research and co-signing all the stuff I was doing. Absolutely. I was going on about it. And Tim, listen to him. Listen to him a little bit. Come on now. That's why he's here.

Yeah, thank you. Appreciate that. My website is LukeUncensored.com. And man, I really love to talk about the health stuff. I wish we could talk about it more. And I think they censor it because it actually is really important and it helps a lot of people. I talk about it a lot and my own personal health journey in my latest video, LukeUncensored.com. Hope to see some of you guys there.

And Ian, if you make a pledge right now, I will work out with you with Soldier Fit. Danny from Soldier Fit. Once once a week right now every friday you in i'm gonna need to look at the contract come on i just i'll be mma self-defense training it sounds phenomenal that's the contract i laid out the contract there's as long as i don't get there and they're like now run a mile i'm you know we'll figure it out hey hey hey it's work, bro. Cardio is good. Yeah, there's a lot of things are work.

I mean, technically, we're all working right now. I laid out the contract. It's simple. It's plain. Yes or no? I'm totally into this. So yes, let's look into it further.

Friday, I'm going to get buffed. Ian, think of the fans. I'm going to get ripped and then I'm going to pick my girlfriend up and carry her around the room while we're having sex. We can make a video series. Love lives.

Ian, I want you to imagine right now how you looked when you were doing that training montage for the MTG comedy. So skinny and gross. And now, imagine your neck just three times as thick. I know, dude. And you're just Russell Brand. That's how Rusty Rockets got so hot is because he's working out. You know, taking care of his body.

That's right. We could do a video series. Think of the fans. I only hope that next time we get to talk about germ theory and terrain theory and rain theory terrain theory probably heard of it yeah the germ theory is that there's a germ that flows through the air gets on you and duplicates whereas the terrain theory is if your body's in the in the right physiological state the germ will proliferate but if it's in a different state the germ won't be able to proliferate okay love you man and also like Tim, Love Line really kind of helped guide me in my early, I was like 12, and I learned about sex ed.

Well, and I started the show, really started because of HIV and AIDS. We weren't even calling it AIDS yet, and we didn't have a causative agent, but no one was talking to young people about it. That was really what motivated me to go do it. And I treated, I was deep in the AIDS epidemic during the time. And by the way, in terms of pandemics, that one had a 100% fatality rate. All never wrong. We'd tell people they had six months to live, and we were never wrong. Think how different that is than a 1% fatality rate. But in any event, and so it motivated me to come in.

And the notion I had when I came, I was like 24 years old. And I thought, God, this stuff is so easy for people to understand. No one tells young people. They need to just understand. And this is what I would have wanted when I was 14. Oh, God, thanks, God. Love you, ma'am. See you, buddy.

Thank you guys very much for tuning in this evening. This was an incredibly fun conversation with Dr. Drew. We will have to have you back. Please bring Adam Corolla. We were going to have him. He's super busy, too. I know you are as well. Bringing him is not

you got to coerce him and I'm if you what's his favorite food let me think of some things you can okay we'll have like a

throne chair with everything like he likes a cigar and like the right pizza there might be something we'll have a little crown you can put it on it might be a way to do it

I really would love to have Adam and you together I would too we should reprise this for sure you guys can follow me on twittermind might be a way to do it. I really would love to have Adam and you together. I would too. We should reprise this for sure. You guys can follow me on Twitter at minds.com and at SarahPetchlids as well as SarahPetchlids.me. We're going to have a picnic tomorrow. So I hope you all have a really good weekend.

Thanks for hanging out and we'll see you all on Monday. Bye.