Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #622 Biden Says "She Was 12, I Was 30" And Everyone LAUGHS w/Nick Palmisciano

Episode Date: September 24, 2022

Tim, Ian, Luke, & Lydia join Nick Palmisciano to discuss Biden's stunning admission that "She was 12" and he was 30, prosecutors saying there is no evidence to support the charges against Matt Gaetz, and a deep dive into the culture war affecting our country. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joe Biden said she was 12 and I was 30. And then all of the teachers start laughing and cheering and clapping in what many people and in what many people are saying is an inappropriate remark. OK, it's Friday night, so we're going to be chilling, having a good time. But for Joe Biden to be speaking, point to someone and say she was 12 and I was 30. Does he is he not self-aware does he does he understand like hey hey hey wow you don't biden don't go there that's that's that's who you are and um i guess it is who he is and it's also funny because it was a it was a speech for teachers and they all start clapping and laughing so i'm just like uh-huh yeah okay what

else is new well uh there's that and what we what we know about joe biden and then there's the matt gates story this is huge we got a breakdown this is a i think i would not be surprised this was a conspiracy actually no wait it is a conspiracy i think that's proven matt gates was accused of uh serious impropriety and uh apparently was under investigation because they claimed that, I think, you know, a few years ago he was hooking up with a 17-year-old or something. And so all of these leftists started saying, you know, child trafficking investigation or something, even though it was like a 17-year-old. But it was fake news. Matt Gates said it was not

true. And there was a guy extorting Matt Gates's dad saying, I can make that go away. That guy gets prosecuted. He's getting prosecuted. It gets five years. And now the prosecutors are recommending no charges for Matt Gaetz because the witnesses have no credibility. In other words, it sounds like the story was fake from the beginning. Matt Gaetz's family was being extorted

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Nick Palmashano. You nailed it. Nailed it! I was worried for a second. I really appreciate you guys having me on. Who are you? That's a great question. I think that it was Socrates that said it. Okay. Yeah, so

you know, just recently I created a documentary called Send Me that was about the fall of Afghanistan, the fall of Kabul. And I was one of the 12 guys in our group, middle aged dudes that went over to Afghanistan, you know, as it was all falling apart to evacuate as many people as possible. Prior to that, I've made a couple of Hollywood movies, comedies, dramas. And prior to that, I started a company called Ranger Up, which was the first military lifestyle brand. Cornered Tim Kennedy in the UFC and Strike Force for 12 years. And before all that, I was an army officer. So that's the abbreviated version of my life. So you have a lot of stories about what went down when Afghanistan fell.

A lot of stories. It was already, even before the show, we're talking a little bit about it, and it was crazy that we're hearing. So we'll definitely get into all that stuff. So thanks for hanging out, man. We also have the t-shirt vendor himself. Humble t-shirt vendor. That is the most humble. Absolutely. Today I'm wearing a little history lesson on my shirt that reminds people of what democide is. It says specifically, the government is way deadlier than any virus. And this is a great conversation starter,

especially at Thanksgiving, the small talk at the airport. This is the best way to start these conversations. You could start them by just simply going to thebestpoliticalshirts.com. That's the website. Hope to see you there. Thanks for having me. I want everyone to imagine sitting down for Thanksgiving and the turkey's brought

out and everyone's smiling and Luke grabs the knife and he goes, so the government kills a lot of people. It's like, oh, here he goes again. Do you know who really is the turkey? Do you know what they put in this turkey? Don't get me going and and these are the shirts that are okay here they're shirts that are censored we can't even show you so

it's true i want to point you guys if you didn't see earlier today pop culture crisis on youtube i was on from three to six i'm ian crossland you can catch me in crossland.net if you want to get through nick i'm glad you're here man i talk a lot about this afghanistan surrender is how i've been framing it because because that's what happened. Equipment and humans were surrendered by a hapless military command. At least that's from what I see. So I'm happy you're here

because I want to talk to you about it. I appreciate it. Get what you see. Yeah, as soon as I booked Nick, I was like, man, Ian's going to love talking to this guy. So I'm really excited for tonight's conversation. Thank you guys all for tuning in.

Thank you all for notifying your friends about our show. We deeply appreciate that. Let's get going. Yeah, when Afghanistan comes up in conversation, it looks like Ian has personally been slapped by Joe Biden. He's like glowing and levitating. He's just like... When you hear the stories of like Tim Kennedy,

you've worked with Tim, was explaining, I think it might've been on one of Rogan's podcasts like a couple of months ago or three months ago that when the women were trying to get their babies into the military into the airport and they would

had no choice but to try and throw them over the wall babies and then they'd get caught in barbed wire because they didn't know there's barbed wire

on both sides that's right oh man all right let's let's start with something that's still kind of depressing but at least a little funny in some sense.

From the New York Post, quote, she was 12. I was 30. Biden leaves viewers stunned in teacher's speech. Correction, New York Post. The crowd cheers for him. They laugh loudly. They laugh loudly. And it's very funny when a guy makes a joke about that's a very large age gap you've got there.

They say President Biden shocked viewers on his Friday speech to teachers when he recognized an audience member and told the crowd she was 12 and I was 30. Biden lit up social media with the confounding and seemingly inappropriate aside. He did not say what he did when he was 30 and the win was a preteen. You got to say hi to me. Biden said mid speechspeech at the national education association headquarters in dc we go we go back a long way she was 12 and i was 30 but anyway this woman helped me get an awful lot done huh as a 12 year old that's maybe later in life but what's it what why would he bring that up i don't know what is she helping him get done

who is this woman anyway this is all a mystery mystery to me. So there's two possibilities here. One, he's absolutely brain fried and can't even talk properly. Two, he's a very dirty, perverted, bad person. Well, that's a fact. That we can't even mention. And there's a lot of other activity that happened before this, whether it's the Ashley Biden diary, whether it's the bunch of creepy videos that are being censored by big tech social media, whether it's him kissing his granddaughter on the mouth two times, whether it's the bunch of creepy videos that are being censored by big tech social media,

whether it's him kissing his granddaughter on the mouth two times, whether it's at least two times that we know on record and him being a career politician. When you're in Washington, D.C., we know for a fact intelligence agencies use sex and use underage children as a form of extortion, as a form of manipulation. So him being in Washington, D.C. this long and so many other things that happened beforehand, definitely raised some serious questions from my perspective. I just want to I'm pulling this up right here and hopefully this this image comes. So when people are like, why do you think Joe Biden's a pedo?

Well, it's like, well, here's him kissing his granddaughter on the lips in front of a public crowd. How much time do you have? She's definitely kissing him, too. How many videos? She kissed me. Biden's like, hey, man, I don't know what's going on with my wife. It was mutual and consensual. Look at this.

Look at this. Look at the people. Look at this lady behind. She's loving it. Like, look how happy they all are. It's the weirdest thing, isn't it? Yeah, mouth kisses is kind of a weird thing is am i missing something look i don't know i don't know what world y'all y'all are from

the world i'm from family members kissing each other on the lips is like not a thing doesn't happen yeah i remember it when i was a kid my grandma kissed her on the mouth once and one time i felt like her wetness out of the between the lips i was like that's oh good no because they were drinking whiskey gross yeah but why is everybody like staring at joe biden kissing his granddaughter it's not the only time he's done it but they're all very happy about it like they're laughing he was also referred wasn't he referred to as pedo pete by somebody it was his own thing recently if you remember that as well and you know the behavior there is is is very eye opening and again you could jump to your own uh you know assertions and conclusions but there's

there's a trail of behavior here that is worrisome look here's another one like what i don't get it is this like a like a delaware thing people in delaware it's like kiss their grand their grandchildren on the lips i I don't think so. That's oddly specific. I think Joe Biden abused Hunter. It explains all of Hunter's behavior. It was Hunter, at least allegedly they called him Pedo Peter. I don't know where that came from, if it was in his texts.

Yeah, his contact. That was the phone backup that got released, right? I've only heard. I haven't seen. I don't even know how I would verify it if I saw it if i would even be real or not but it's a little disturbing if that's real and all the teachers are cheering for it that's like right yeah yeah i guess so you'll see people cheering when this being reality he's like today we're gonna get and they're like yeah when he said true not a shot with a pressure and they're like yeah it's like what the it's like

it's going on he hits the emotion the tone cue and that makes everyone clap and cheer but it like it's not even a logical expression it's i kind of feel like if you had a stage with biden on it and then his supporters on stage with him but like you could see it. And then he said something like, next no arrest in Batacalf care, and they all started cheering. I'd be laughing. This is a great show. This is hilarious. These people are so dumb.

It's the world we live in, I guess. That's our president. Meanwhile, the economy is imploding. You got the market tanked. What is it? The Dow Jones fell below. I think when Bideniden first started it was about 30 300 now it's down to 29 so the economy is worse in this picture the the dow is down you

can see the red and the arrow oh yeah look at this even that's amazing look at this clip right there as we're showing joe biden talking about some 12 year old that he knew when he was 30 it you can see the dow watch showing a drop of nearly two percentage points. So, you know, how are you guys doing? It's great. I'm looking at the Dow all time. It's tough to tell because they'll print large amounts of money that'll naturally inflate the Dow just because there's more capital.

It doesn't mean the economy is doing better, though. Well, you know, just to put on my conspiracy hat, if I could. Just for a little bit here. Let me dust it off here. If you do look at a lot of the Biden policies, they have directly created this economic havoc that we're dealing with for the benefit of the few ruling elites. And this is why a lot of people make the assertions and theorize that maybe there is some dirt on Biden that some very powerful people have on him that they're using to, of course, influence policy in America, policy in America that's not working in the best interest of the American people, working in the best interest of the select few who might have dirt on him. And they're using

that dirt in order to push these policies wrecking the economy. Maybe, maybe, but I think dirt's the wrong way to look at it. I think it's more like you can do what you want if you do as you as you're told you know what i mean yes and then there could be an extortion operation i i think that's a little bit more likely i don't know you you work in those in the you know i think in general terms i think it's less about stuff like that i just think it's more that large businesses the elite have really significant lobbying power and donation power, and you know, their businesses can donate and super PACs can donate. You know, if you think about, you know, our GDP and our success, almost all of it comes from small business, because small business,

and you guys know this, you're a small business, you hire people, you know, you're always growing, you're thinking about how do I do more? How do I get bigger? Large business thinks about efficiency, offshoring, saving money. And so there's nobody that represents the average American, the small business owner. There's nobody that is truly putting money, time, lobbying efforts into that. And so, you know, you end up with people that are, that only care about significant interests. I wonder what Biden does. I think he sleeps most of the time, and then they wake him up and give him pills.

Injections. Yeah, maybe injections. They've got big businesses very much about the stockholders, and forever it's been about stockholder value, stockholder. Now they're adding on shareholder value. Share, am I getting this right? Well, that's like the Klaus Schwab thing is like planetary stakeholders. I think it's stakeholders.

Now they're going from shareholders, which are the stock owners, to stakeholders as well, which is who has stake in this company doing well, which honestly is up for debate. Like if it's a company that wants to clean the water in Portugal, then all of the Portuguese citizens become a stakeholder in that company doing well. And then they can, I don't know enough about it to start going off on. I've actually been starting to read Klaus Schwab's recent book, and I'll definitely let you know more. But it's a way to manipulate, to get corporations like ESG.

It's like, are you doing well for your stakeholders as well as your shareholders? Are you making the world a better place for your stakeholders? The ESG stuff is the Communist Party of America. So you have the Communist Party of China, and what they do is they get an office in all of these companies. You open a company, they got to have an office there. And they control if you're in line with the message. And at some point, some US interests were like, man, that's a good idea. We could totally control everything if we just forced this. So you had this guy, Vivek Ramaswamy.

Ramaswamy, there you go. There we go. Yeah, he was ragging on Disney because he was like, you're doing things that are hurting the company for ESG stuff. You like stop doing that. And then he even called out State Street Vanguard and was it BlackRock? I think so. Yeah, he was like, just because they're big shareholders doesn't mean you do what they say.

They represent people and the people don't want any of this stuff. But here's the thing, man. Those three, they own basically everything. They've got huge percentages of basically everything. Super woke, ESG. They're trying to control. You know what it is? It's kind of like, I don't know if coup is the right word because it's not like they're storming the gates and taking over.

But they're definitely slowly taking over everything and they're doing it through the private sector. And the public sector, to be honest. But they're going into the private sector through ESG as basically the Communist Party of China does. And they're getting their offices. They're getting their influence. And then if you don't do as you're told, you get banned. You get the ax.

You get shut out of society. We can't let them gain more control, simply put. Got to fight back. How do you do that? Start small businesses. Start your own business. Make your own tv shows incorporate mock disney as they collapse yeah so he's telling disney's like you've got to stop this

and i'm kind of like no wait don't like let disney rot itself to the core okay we'll make we'll make our own show with ian that's right and no hookers bucko yeah we're just talking today about a lot of content is like people are creating like Christian content. Like there's Pure Flix, which is starting to ramp up. Hallmark has their own Daily Wire. Pure Flix? I've never heard of Pure Flix. Yeah, Pure Flix.

Been around since 2005. But people don't want to be bashed over the head with it. So you've got to figure out what's the next phase. And I think the next phase is sci-fi that takes into account like the cosmology and this new physics where we're finding like cosmic microwave background radiation that kind of looks like neurons in the brain. And you're like, wow, maybe there is a God. And if you can kind of take people in that direction, you know, you can kind of bring God into the conversation and kind of grounded in like morality, but still have cool sci-fi message on top of that. Yeah. I mean, the whole thing kind of depresses me because I remember there was a time where there, it wasn't like right content or left content.

You know, it was content like a movie or a show or whatever, you know, was about, you know, whatever the topic of the day was or. But it wasn't like you watched a show or a host or whatever because they had a specific view. It was, you know, you came on, you had discussions about complex topics and people got into it and they could disagree and that was acceptable. And I definitely feel like, and I, and you know, full disclosure, like I said earlier, I'm, I'm moderate. I do feel like if you're a conservative, you know, you have fewer opportunities to have your voice heard and you see it in businesses. Like I have friends that own,

um, you know, whether they're second amendment businesses or, or two way adjacent. Like I have a friend that owns a company called field craft survival, Mike Glover. Oh yeah. We love Mike.

He was on the show a few months ago. Mike's amazing. I mean, he's one of the best people I've ever met. And, um, you know, he's essentially,

you know, targeted as almost a domestic terrorist. And it's insane. This is a guy that, you know, served, you know, in special forces, you know, I have not found a single human being that doesn't like him. And, you know, the special operations and military community is a lot like a sorority where people like to talk about each other. You know, there's a lot of that. Like everybody's got a little bit of a beef with everybody. No one has said anything about Mike Glover. Everybody's like he's the best dude on planet Earth. And his content is constantly, you know, pulled down. And he's just telling people how to survive in a crisis. And didn't the feds attack him and label him like a domestic threat? What was the story? Explain it to people. Because that's a big one.

Yeah, he is on a list. Like Fieldcraft Surv field craft survival mike glover they're on a list as like potential domestic terrorists and like this guy would never do anything against this country like i mean he he is a you know and people throw this term around for people that don't deserve it like he's a true patriot um and uh i mean you know he's a he's a big part of Tim Kennedy's life, who's been a friend of mine for years. You know, I know him personally, all of my friends have worked with him or, you know, whether in the military or business. And this is a guy that's like, he owns a survival company. So he teaches you, you know, to shoot to hunt to, you know, dress wounds to live in the wild. That's what he loves doing. So that's what he teaches you, you know, to shoot, to hunt, to, you know, dress wounds, to live in the wild. That's what he loves doing. So that's what he teaches people to do. Like, how do you survive in the worst possible situation? And yeah, like, you know, he's been flagged and it's wild to me.

Like there's no undoing it either. Well, let's jump to this next story here and we'll get into what's going on with this stuff. The Washington Post. Career prosecutors recommend no charges for Matt Gaetz in sex trafficking probe. Investigators see credibility challenges for two main witnesses in a probe of the congressman's alleged past dealings with a then 17 year old. In other words, there's no evidence. There's nothing. That's it. Just some people with no credibility making accusations they can't back up.

And so the prosecutors are like, ain't nothing we can do about it. We'll see. They're saying maybe they'll still bring charges, but it would be extremely unlikely to do so considering what they're saying now. But here's what happened. They start the probe. Someone leaks information to the press. And then all of a sudden, it's law. The media just says it's happening.

And that's what they do. So my question is, with everything we've seen with the FBI, the Washington field office particularly, going after their political rivals, how much of this was an extortion plot? How much of it was, because let's just show you the context here. This is from Politico. Florida man gets five years in plot to extort Matt Gaetz's father. A U.S. District Judge sentenced Stephen Alford

to 63 months plus three years supervised release. The story? He went to the family and said, hey, I can make that all go away if you give me $25 million. So I'm starting to lean towards whoever set this up,

the investigators, and then whoever was leaking it, they were all in on it. What do you think from your information? I don't, you know, to me, like I don't have information. investigators and then whoever was leaking it they were all in on it what do you think from your information yeah i don't you know to me like i don't have information so like i don't i i'm very careful like i don't like to lobby uh lob accusations or you know at people that where i don't have real information so i will say that you know i my instinct was that it was true based on the coverage from every major paper you

know i believe them and what's that why believe them well so especially so you know at the the last you know a couple years of my life dealing with some of the uh some of the things i've dealt with definitely has me questioning a lot more things i'll say that but you know typically the washington post does a pretty good job you know disagree i it's you know my opinion my opinion that david weigel fabricated a story and they and then they secretly edited it six months later and they never they never like they never issued a public correction he literally just wrote a fake story about the seth rich conspiracy matt manufactured insane claims that made no sense. And then I actually get him on the phone.

He's at the Washington Post. And I'm like, you made this up. And he's like, okay. And then nothing happens. Six months later, they go in without saying anything and they alter it to clean it up. And that's it. No official correction. No public statements or anything.

The Washington Post is just garbage. And that's just the easy example off the top of my head. I'm sure there's plenty of examples everywhere. But look, this is them right now saying no charges. No, I see it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know. So who are these other outlets?

And I will say that, you know, if when all is said and done, it comes out that, you know, this guy is innocent. I mean, that's pretty terrible. Well, he was always innocent. But I mean, everyone's innocent until proven guilty. Right, exactly. So, you know. So they just run fake stories in the press.

They play dirty games like these liberals tend to think that if you're accused of a crime, you're guilty of it. That's a terrifying reality. Well, that is the way the media works, right? So like, there's been a huge dynamic shift where, you know, it used to be that like journalists took a long period of time to get stories out, make sure that they had sources confirmed all of them. Now, because of the age we're in, where everyone is creating news quickly, you know, including like you guys, right? It is a race to get the story first, which often means that the story is inaccurate.

And once somebody launches the story, everybody races to tell the same story, and you end up getting this confirmation bias. Yeah, but this is something different. I mean, this is people leaking information on a story that had no evidence or credibility. Sure. And then the media, especially leftist liberal outs running it as if it was true. Yep. I mean, let's be honest here. There's a lot of sex traffickers in Washington, DC. There's no nine, nine. There's a lot of sex traffickers everywhere. Exactly. And it's important to note here that the FBI has been moving according to

the latest whistleblowers agents off of those cases and moving them on to the January 6th cases. And when it came to this particular case, I did find it interesting because I do follow a lot of these stories. I think they're important to talk about, especially when it comes to things like the DC Madam. That's a whole other crazy story that if you want to go down a rabbit hole, you could go down a rabbit hole with. But I didn't find any evidence here with Matt Gaetz.

I didn't see anything legitimate. I didn't see anything confirmed. So I kind of kept quiet about it. I waited as a journalist to see what was going to be happening, what was going to be developing here. But online, all over Reddit, there was number one posts calling him a sex trafficker. But I haven't seen anything legitimate. I haven't seen any evidence suggesting this. But everywhere on social media, especially in leftist circles, he is automatically deemed now a sex trafficker which i think is a little bit unfair since of course there's no evidence providing this

this assertion which was spread out by you know insiders from the government and then regurgitated by the corporate media to smear somebody yeah i mean i think there's always a bias against people you don't like if you don't like somebody it's very easy to believe bad things about them exactly and you know and he's uh extremely far right and you know is is a continuous target you know i i just can't help feeling like this is a classic case of we were talking about innocence until proven guilt this is a case of the media choosing whether to decide if someone is guilty or not and going with it they don't care about whether it's actually true and then if it's proven that they're wrong they simply don't talk about it i've seen them do this before so what happens if they're if it's proven that they're they've been lying or they've

been inaccurate or they've left something out they just stop talking about it i agree with like i'm genuinely surprised i'm i'm proud of the washington post for talking about this at all. Good for them. Because what they like to do is just sweep it under the rug. Like Tim was saying with this other story that after six months they went back and sneakily edited it and didn't say anything about it. I think still to this day they've never fixed it.

Yeah, it's amazing. And now, will there be a major retraction from all these other organizations that slandered him? Will all the people who made fun of him and attacked him? We're doubling it down. The activists are already saying stuff like, you know, they know they can't win, but it doesn't mean it's not true. Damage is done.

Uh-huh. Yeah. I mean, there's traffickers, and you know this because there's victims coming forward. Epstein had his victims coming forward to the FBI in the 90s. And there was people speaking out against this and of course they didn't do anything about it. Where's the victims of Gates coming forward? Who was that guy who

he called out Epstein nobody believed him what was his name? Luke Rutkowski? No, no, no. He had a big show he had a big show and he's being sued for defamation. And he's in court right now, and it's kind of a show trial. Alex Jones.

Dude, you've got to see the most recent clip of him going at it with the lawyer, who's like, the lawyer is whining really hard. And Alex is like, this is some base stuff. It's pretty. Yo, the Alex Jones trial is hilarious. There's this clip. I was watching it. I was watching the live stream of it.

And the plaintiff's attorney asks him who he gets his sales reports from. And then Alex is like, no one. And then he's like, no, who is giving it to you? And then he's like, I'm not allowed to say. And so then they have to call like sidebar. And the judge actually says you were right to do that because he would have to say it's coming from the bankruptcy lawyers. So like the rulings against Alex are actually inhibiting the plaintiff's attorneys. And then there was that other clip that went viral where he said he mentioned liberals, morals, turning on a dime or whatever.

And all the Iraqis they killed, their lies. You saw that one? Yeah, the lawyer was getting really emotional and sparking. He's like, it's emotional when you want to be emotional, but it's not when you don't. I'm sorry. I got to say this. Talking about people's lives being lost. I got to say, the judge is inadequate.

I'm being polite. Inadequate. I'm being polite to the judge. Because when the plaintiff's lawyer started just yelling at Jones and Jones started snarking back, the judge did nothing. And then another lawyer was like, judge, are you going to do something? And she goes, well, I can't get a word in edgewise. It's like, you have a bailiff. You're a judge.

You can bang the gavel and hold people in contempt. And you're sitting there letting people mouth off. It's all for TV. It's all for TV. You have a responsibility to do that as a justice. That's your courtroom. Whatever. It's all for tv it's all for tv you have a responsibility to do that as a justice that's your courtroom whatever it's all for tv it was we're getting memes out of it and the videos are funny and it's just all it's like you know i'm watching that and uh i can't remember who said it but they said that the january 6 hearings are basically like nightly entertainment for wine moms

they're like sitting there going like oh ooh, what's going to happen next? Ooh, he did what? And then they're voting based on it. It's kind of scary. It is. Yeah, but it's more because it's like, if the FBI really is moving manpower out of like sex trafficking and going into domestic terrorism,

I kind of wonder what you think about this, Nick. Like, why do you think that this is happening? I mean, do you think there's actually a risk of domestic terrorism overthrowing American republicanism? No, I don't. I mean, you know, I don't think January 6th was a good thing. I don't think I think that people should be held accountable. So just, you know, that that's my my position on that.

Do I think that it was, you know, like a big planned professional event? Like, I do not. I think it was a bunch of idiots doing idiot things and, you know. Bumbling about. What are they called? The Maga Mimos. Yeah. Like, I mean, like, you know, you look at that group and like, you know, these people

are not, you know, this is not, you know, like James Madison and John and john adams i mean like that like that's not what you had this wasn't seal team since moving in i'm pretty sure those biking helmets i'm pretty sure you know yeah i mean you know it's a big deal and i don't i think it should be taken seriously um but i i also don't think i think that the press this is where i really get aggravated with the press we talk a lot about civil war right and i i think that these people don't know what civil war is or they think it won't happen but they think they can get clicks by talking about it but you know there are going to be idiots that start believing that there's like a real civil war that's forthcoming and you know why wouldn't there be why wouldn't there be um because i'm not saying it can't happen because it can happen anywhere um i think that americans do not really want to

shoot their neighbor in the face what about the guy in north dakota who just took an suv and ran over an 18 year old oh yeah no listen no and And when you when you talk about stuff like that, where you have people that have been driven to a point where they truly believe that like someone is the enemy because they're a Republican or a Democrat, like that's a real problem. And the president did just give a speech where he said that. Yeah, I thought I thought that was an ill advisedadvised you know don't you like don't you kind of think for one i'd say this is what i was saying about bill burr when he said people don't hate each other it's the internet i'm like yeah why would a neighbor want to shoot their own

neighbor yeah well no because people who live next to each other tend to share political values but what about the person who lives in a city talking about somebody who lives in the south that's not necessarily like i live in chapel hill which is like the most liberal place on earth right chapel hill north carolina um and like actually i have a funny story like one day i i answered the door for the pizza guy and i was wearing like a second amendment t-shirt and the dude started i'm crying he's like oh my god like there's there's another like conservative in this town you know i thought that was really funny my neighbors are great they're they're all liberal they're great people they're nice people and so anytime anybody starts talking about civil war i literally ask them like do you actually want to shoot your neighbor in the

face well nobody wants to but but what are you going to do it for like what's the up your if we have a civil war in america our life here will never be as good as it is now your life will be worse will absolutely be worse for the rest of your life that's true you know there will be yeah like catastrophic i mean like people here do not understand all right all right let me ask you then um how many child sex changes would you allow to happen uh like like like period so so uh no where you live right yeah you know it's very liberal yep uh let's use vanderbilt for example in tennessee they they've been giving children sex change surgery you'd be willing to

compromise on that to to allow no no so my you know i want a problem there don't you well i want to start by like like i am totally supportive of anybody that's trans. Like, I am totally fine with an adult, you know, deciding that, like, this is not who they want to be. I treat anybody with empathy. I will treat anybody with respect. If you, you know, if you were a man and you transitioned to being a woman, like, I will call you by your new name. I will always be kind to anybody, and I think that's, it's totally acceptable. I do get nervous, but I am also not an expert in this. I do get nervous anytime you're talking about children, given that, you know, there is a high percentage of folks that begin transitioning

and then change their mind. Desistance, which is, depending on the study, it can be between 65 and like 95%. So, you know, I think that you just have to be careful. I made this point to Stephen Marsh. He wrote a book called The Next Civil War. And, you know, he was saying he believed a civil war is coming. He wrote a book about it, but he's more on the liberal side, though he doesn't think he is. He doesn't realize that he is. And we talked about it.

He's a cool dude. We just disagree. And, you know, I pointed out to him. I said, do you have universal health care in Canada? He's Canadian. He said, yes. And I said, OK, we don't here. Would you give up half of your how much of your health care would you give up to compromise

so that we don't go into conflict? And he goes, I wouldn't. And I'm like, you see, there's a problem, don't you? So what we're having now is, sure, you might say like, why would a neighbor fight a neighbor? Well, they probably wouldn't. I mean, in many civil wars, regular people are trying to flee from the violence. You take a look at Syria, you take a look at the Arab Spring, you take a look at Ukraine. Most people are just leaving, but a lot of people are fighting. Now, when it comes to Ukraine, it's different. That's an invasion that

I understand. When you look at Syria, there are people who are choosing to fight and fight for their cause. So the issue I see is it may be that 90% of people don't want to fight, and that's a good thing because they shouldn't want to fight. Nobody should. But then you come to an impasse, and the impasse right now is Stark.

Matt Walsh just did this big expose on Vanderbilt University in, I think they're in Nashville, right? The medical center? Right in Nashville. And they have videos talking about how much money they're going to make doing sex change operations on children, on actual children. Irreversible damage, irreversible surgeries. And the issue I take with this is not have anything to do with trans people because I agree with you on that point.

You know, people, I think if they're adults, should be free to do with their bodies as they see fit. Within certain reason, of course. I mean, we don't want people harming themselves like committing suicide. And there's questions about body dysmorphia. But the issue here is the scientific studies showing high rates of desistance. And you look at our Scandinavian,

more progressive friends over in Europe, and they've shut down this stuff. So now you have the issue of Billboard Chris. Are you familiar with Billboard Chris? I am not. He wears a billboard that says children cannot consent to puberty blockers. And when he goes up and he talks about this stuff plainly, calmly, scientific reports, trusting the science, they scream in his face.

They threaten him. In some instances, they stalk him. And then we've actually seen what happens when you go against a lot of this ideology. One kid in North Dakota for being a Republican extremist, apparently, and threatening the guy, so claims the guy. He's dead now. And the guy killed him and fled the scene. So the issue that arises is, in Florida, for instance, Ron DeSantis, and I'm sure many

people around him will say, hey, schools shouldn't be giving kids sex ed without parental consent. So what does the media do? Completely lie about everything happening. You've got Boston Children's Hospital and this whole hoax around a bomb threat. The threat was really called in. It was called into the hospital, but the media was reporting that there was an evacuation when there wasn't.

And it's a complicated story. And then you have Vanderbilt. With all of these institutions, once they're exposed giving children sex change operations, they delete their websites. And I think it's obvious. They know that the overwhelming majority of American people would reject that and are horrified by the idea that they would do it. And so then you have people saying, look, you know, there are people who believe nothing

is going to happen. Meanwhile, the violence has been escalating consistently for several years. You've got Joe Biden coming out on TV only a few weeks ago saying that MAGA Republicans are an extremist threat to this country. Two weeks later, a guy kills a kid for calling it and calls him a Republican extremist. So you combine these things with even, look, outside of my opinion, my opinion is all based on expert testimony, a Princeton professor saying that there's a cold civil war coming. All signs, I should say the history of what we're witnessing today rhymes with what we've seen in say, Russia, Spain, or Germany. So for people to come out,

the way I described it the other day is, you know, when Bill Burr comes out and says neighbors aren't fighting each other, we're sitting atop a watchtower, checking the news, reading the news all day every day, and we can see pockets of conflict all off in the distance. And then we can literally see the president stand up on a podium and yell,

they are the enemy and they're destroying this country. And then we look down on the ground where Bill Burr's having a beer and he goes, nobody's fighting anywhere. There's no civil war over here. You're crazy.

So when I hear that kind of stuff, I'm like, that was a good Bill Burr. Oh, thank you. but i i just you know considering we we talk about it i don't think any i don't think like no one here and that we've ever had wants a civil war and so we have people like michael malice and even luke saying national divorce peaceful divorce before it gets to that point but you actually have memes emerging about the country splitting up and there was a survey done i believe it was you gov data that surveyed every surveyed like a thousand some odd people in each region there are five regions there's the west

there's the south there's the heartland there's the midwest or i think there's the northeast or whatever i don't know how they broke it up. The mountain region, I think it was. And found that in the South, something like 60% of Republicans want to secede as a South. In the Northeast, the majority of Democrats want to secede. In the West, the majority of Democrats want to secede.

In the mountain region, I think it was a plurality. I shouldn't say majority, a plurality. It was a majority of Republicans. It was like 60% of the South. And then it was a plurality in the East and West of Democrats. The Midwest area was surprising, the heartland, I guess they called it.

That was, the plurality was independent voters wanting to secede. Overall, if I did the math, I broke down the total, I took each state's population. I took the total number of people polled, broke it all down. 37.2 percent of people in the united states would favor their region separating from the united states so when you have metrics like that and consistently poll after poll after poll saying people expect it to happen yeah at a certain point you're like yo we're knocking at the door it's it's something's happening yeah i mean so you know i don't think the federal government's going to allow that and

i also think that people don't really what does that mean you know what it means i mean like there's like we're not going to allow states to secede from the union that's gonna that would actually be war so i don't think that that i don't think that's going to happen i also don't think people know what the economic impact of that kind of separation would be on on every region every region i don't i don't i don't think anyone does it calculating what's going to happen. I think if you look at the history of civil wars around the world. No, I get it. It's ideological and tribal and it happens.

I get it. So how would the federal government stop? You know, they would absolutely use force. I mean, there's no like it's not going to happen. You think the federal government has enough personnel, especially at record low recruitment rates to deal with national conflict at this level? that's a good question they absolutely don't the civil war in uh 1861 the country was substantially smaller and some of the fighting didn't even reach other parts other territories in the united in the united states and a lot of the fighting was

confined to like the southeast specifically so what happens i'll put it this way the american civil war is not indicative of not indicative of most civil wars. It was a really weird, unique thing where a separate union formed and those two unions went to each other. But if you look at the Syrian Civil War, for instance, where you have 12 different factions, now you take a look at the polarization in the United States and you actually have three or four factions, maybe even more, depending on how far you want to break it down. So you have this-

I hear what you're saying i just the economic hit that everybody would take like lives changing forever and then you have the the sub question of all right so like you know just because uh you know let's say california says we want to secede right that's the most obvious one we know california is primarily primarily liberal but still you know it's still like 40 conservative and so now you have all these people that are that are trapped essentially in california like it's just it's a bad scene no matter how you look at i don't think there are some people who absolutely want it to happen but i think the overall majority of people don't want it to happen and even even as I or Stephen Marsh or, I don't know, who else has talked about this to great

degrees? I mean, you've got a CBS reporter recently coming out saying Civil War is coming. MSNBC on primetime TV says we're in it already. A Princeton professor saying we've been in it for four years. None of them are saying it's a good thing. So we all agree it's not a good thing. But that doesn't mean it's not happening yeah so you know i i would i'd maybe consider that we have you know what you called it i thought that was good a cold civil war i think there's definitely like some

ideological questions happening i do not and and i don't want this to sound bad because i love this country and i you know i love i think it's the best country on earth i've been to 56 countries so like i have some you know some knowledge of of what that means i don't think americans in general are willing to pay the price for what they believe right but like most people fleeing ukraine the majority tend not to fight i mean even in the american revolution i mean ukraine is the you know but if you look at the American Civil War, that one was particularly interesting because people really were willing to fight. On the North, you had people

who wanted to preserve the Union who were fighting just because they were enlisted, but there were a lot of abolitionists. Hans Christian Haag wasn't even American. He was like, I'll fight and stop this stuff. Yeah, and that was a uniquely American thing. Our spirit is different than the rest of the world. I don't see that in the average person anymore.

I mean, if people are mildly inconvenienced... The average person doesn't fight, never has in any war. Correct. But you're kind of seeing a lot of people as yourself. You're thinking of the long-term consequences. And I think a lot of people have been taught not to think about the long-term consequences. A lot of people are reactionary. A lot of people have been, you know, thought through social media that emotions, you know, matter more than, of course, any kind of logical thinking.

Frederick Nietzsche has this great quote that I talked about a couple days ago on the show. He says, in individuals, insanity is rare. But in groups, parties, nations, and epochs, it is the rule. So I think it's worth noting that we are on the precipice where our mindsets are being controlled by big tech social media. There is, I would say, a divide and conquer agenda. I would say people are acting against each other more and more. I think a lot of this is deliberate,

and it doesn't have to mean states go against states. It can mean groups and organizations go against other groups and organizations. I just think, you know, you got a case in Texas where a man and a woman get divorced. The mother claims the kid is trans. The father claims the kid is not. And the state awards the kid to the mother. You don't think that you're going to get to the point where a just says no sure but that's not that's not a civil war that's an individual matter no that's that's like civil wars don't start because one guy no i understand

so civil wars start when an ideology becomes persistent when the state begins taking children away from from parents and they and they are now And you're seeing this in, you know, conservatives, of course, are calling it out. They're saying, this is actually, I can't remember who I was watching, but there was a conversation happening. They said, parents are afraid that if they speak up, their children will be taken from them. Schools, in many places, are telling the children not to talk to their parents. Teachers are posting videos saying parents have no right to educate their children or know what's going on. I know.

It's ideological and it's pervasive. At what point do we see, like with the Bundys, right? The Bundys actually had armed dudes on bridges with guns pointed at federal officers. I want to push back a little bit. I don't know that it's pervasive. I think it is a problem in some school systems in some places. I don't think it's pervasive. Like, I do not think that exists, for example, where I live in Chapel Hill. Like, and that's a,

it's a very, I mean, I'm pretty involved with my kids. I'm pretty involved with the school system. My wife is very involved with the school system. But does this mean that you've gone and checked the curriculum for the books that they're giving to kids? Like, we have one right here that has sexual depictions in it, and it's in school libraries and we had uh who was it asra nomani yeah her name she brought a whole bunch of she came in with a stack of 50 or 60 books that have appeared in schools all over the all over the entire country and uh yeah parents aren't checking these things so to be like i don't i don't think it's happening but as a maximum freedom guy yourself isn isn't that on the parents?

You know, I'm also not afraid of books. But this is why Glenn Young can, well, are you afraid of porn in front of children? Yes. Right. So that's the problem. No one's talking about a book. We're talking about in this book, Gender Career, sitting right here on this table, there's a depiction of someone, several depictions of sexual activity. Amazon listed as 18 and plus, 18 and over only, but they're putting

it in school children's libraries and they've done it several times. So it is a persistent ideology and that's why it's become so shocking and such a powerful political issue. That's why even Bill Maher addressed the concept just the other, just last week saying Democrats need to stop this. And that's why it's so crazy that Matt Walsh, he highlights Vanderbilt University bragging about how much money they're going to make doing these irreversible surgeries. Vanderbilt pulls the website down. Clearly they know. It's shocking. But then you see leftists, Antifa, and the media use all of their power and resources to try and shut the idea down. You see people getting banned and suspended over talking about it. So this is a high level issue,

but it's also an issue that makes people really, really angry. Yep. And it's pushing us to the edge. But it's not just that. No, but I mean, let's just put it simply. The FBI just served subpoenas on 40 plus Trump supporters.

Steve Bannon's been charged. Letitia James couldn't even get criminal charges on Trump as now filing a civil suit against them. The power of the federal government is being used against Trump supporters to the extent that the president would go on TV and say half the country are an extremist threat and then someone would run over and kill a kid. So I'm telling you. So no, like I'm totally with you. That speech, that speech was inappropriate. I do want to just go back to the, like, I have a much more optimistic view of the world than you do. Um, but what's, what's pessimistic about what I'm saying?

Because I think like with this book, right? I, I 100% think that there are people, bad people out there that want to, you know, get their worldview across. I think most people people you know what whether it's this book or other books i think most people are trying to be empathetic to kids that might be different whether you know they're they're gay or they're bisexual or they're figuring it out or whatever and i think i think that this generation is very empathetic compared to my generation when i grew up you know like if somebody was gay they got made fun of if somebody was even a femme but what does that i do i do i do want to i want to finish the thought right and so it's entirely possible people are looking at this and you know most people are bad at their jobs right like i mean at best most people are average and so like they might have looked at this and said like you know oh this is one of the school books that's out there not read it not looked at the material

and thought hey this is an empathetic book like i'm not saying that that's the case i don't know but i i just do not believe that there is like a universal group of people that are trying to show kids pornography i think that in general terms people are trying to say like hey you know what maybe like you know when were younger, we did not treat people that were different well, and we would like to, and maybe they're not doing their job well. They're not looking at, they're not doing their homework. They're not making sure that it's age appropriate content.

We should always be, you know, respectful of other people and their differences, of course, obviously, but what are the consequences of these actions in our schools? What are the consequences of what's happening in Canada right now, where these policies have led to children being taken away from their parents because their parents aren't transitioning their children? And we have to be careful what we say here.

How is it empathetic where in Canada right now, parents are having their children taken away from them because they don't transition them? That's not empathy. Yeah, and that's a different situation. And like, I'm sure... But that's not empathy yeah that and that's a different situation and like i'm sure but that's what it led to i understand well yeah i understand where you're coming from but i mean here's here's just another important factor like perhaps you're correct perhaps there are a lot of people who don't know what they're putting in front of

children and don't care enough to actually do it. I don't see how that's empathy. I don't see how it's empathy to be like, sure, do the book, whatever. I don't know what's in it. Empathy would be like, let's keep our kids safe and happy. No, no, I'm saying empathy is the background. How is a double mastectomy on a 13-year-old girl empathy? Yeah, no, I agree with you there. So why are there people actively defending that and calling Matt Walsh an extremist for saying, hey, maybe we shouldn't do that?

Like, listen, my point here is it doesn't matter whether you agree with it or don't. The concept of sterilizing a child or permanently removing the breast tissue of a 13, 14 or 15 year old girl is considered an atrocity. We used to consider female genital. We used to have huge stories about female genital mutilation being wrong. Now you have universities actively promoting it. So if you can consider that a conservative did not leave that space and Vanderbilt University is saying there are instances where we will mutilate the chests or secondary sexual characteristics or give other puberty blockers and chemicals that aren't approved for this to children.

We're in the territory now where there's a group of people for whatever reason doesn't matter are advocating atrocities against children. Yes. So I'm I think you always are going to have a problem with extreme capitalism. And what I mean by that are, you know, there are people that are willing to make money doing anything. And so you know, when you again, I'm not educated on the story. So I want to be very careful with what I say here. But, you know, if if that is the case, if if there is a organization that is excited about making a ton of money, you know, providing those services, that's obviously a problem. That's not medical care. That is malintent.

I also agree with you. Like, as I said earlier, you know, I don't think children should be making these decisions. I, you know, I certainly don't think unless there's abuse from the parent or something, if it's a situation where the parent is, you know, ridiculing the kid or something because the kid is trans or, you know, believes that, you know, he or she is trans, then I think that is a different problem. So, like, I think you have to look at every case individually. If there are bad people involved, that's one thing.

Now, if it's just, you know, a parent that doesn't think that it's appropriate, you know, I think that is a much different situation. Are you okay with the drag queen story time in the videos that are coming out showing, you know... It's not going to lick itself? Yeah, and, you know, people stripping in front of children and children giving them dollars. Or children stripping. How about the children strippers? I am not okay with anything sexual being provided to children. But I want to be clear because there's so many...

Like, if there is a trans teacher i don't i have no problem with that if it is a sexualized situation like a show i do have a problem what about that yeah i mean i i that's like that's a ridiculous but this is protected this is so this is in canada just so you know yeah uh which is not the same but uh under the same legal language this is a protected human right yeah i understand now look i don't i don't care to get in like i i don't want to go overboard with just talking about the kids and stuff i think there's better examples are you familiar with the story of the bundys the bundy ranch and all that stuff yes bureau of land management yes uh so what we saw there you had people armed with rifles on bridges pointing them, let's just say, in the direction of federal agents.

Yep. And that was what? That was, what, seven, eight years ago? Or maybe even longer. That was longer. Eight or nine years ago? So when you see things like that, we know it's possible. And then my issue is Kyle Rittenhouse, in his own town, goes out, provides medical assistance,

and is armed. Someone threatens to kill him several times. He runs. Someone fires a gun in the air. Rittenhouse turns around. The guy then lunges for his gun and nearly grabs it. Rittenhouse fires,

clearly in self-defense, as the jury found. And then he flees to the police. He's attacked with a skateboard, knocked over. A man with, I think, Glock tries to shoot him. Kyle Rittenhouse goes to jail for 80-some-odd days, I believe. He's vilified in the press. He's called a white supremacist. They lie in every, every step of the way demonizing him. And they still do it

to this day. And now they're still going after him. This guy in North Dakota ran over a teenager, killing him. He's out on bond like that. No media coverage, no question. In the summer of love in May of 2020, Black Lives Matter and Antifa ransacked almost every city in this country. I mean, it's insane. You'll get Michael Tracy's reporting. Small towns you never heard of had rioting. Several dozen are dead. Kamala Harris provides, she fundraisers to get these people out of jail. Joe Biden's staff personally pay to get people out of jail. And then you have the 529 insurrection. when far left extremists tore down the barricades in front of the White House, set fire to St. John's Church,

set fire to the guard post in front of the White House and forced the president into a bunker. Now, why wasn't that story, which was, I believe that was what, that was two years ago. Why wasn't that an insurrection? Why isn't that story like maybe when, you know, a few thousand far left extremists set fire to a church and tried to firebomb the white house and the president's force in a bunker maybe the ideology has reached a point where we're on that we're getting dangerously close to a civil war now here's now here's here's the kicker years ago people kept saying like you said to me now the federal government would never allow it but the federal government is clearly split

between these exact factions stephen friend and this other was Kyle Serafin. FBI agents blowing the whistle, calling out the actions, the corruption and the political bias in the DOJ. And then you actually have the FBI that's being called out acting at the behest of Democrats towards political ends. So maybe it's just a bunch of wild, crazy extremists fighting each other in the street. Aaron Danielson getting shot twice in the chest, far left extremists, firebombing churches and, you know, pregnancy centers all over the country.

Oh, actually they're in the DOJ and they're using the power of the federal government. And then when that doesn't work, you get the AG in New York filing, attempting to file charges against Trump. When that doesn't work, they go the AG in New York filing, attempting to file charges against Trump. When that doesn't work, they go after a civil suit. What we're experiencing is not just cold civil war, it's fifth generational civil war. The fact that YouTube two weeks ago announced they're going to be suppressing information they deem borderline is election manipulation. The fact that the FBI said they, that whistleblowers pointed out, they were instructed not to investigate

Hunter Biden's laptop. I mean, maybe you're right. maybe there'll be a civil war and only because a revolution is taking place and extremists are taking over the government and nothing's being done there was there was a lot a lot in that statement um i will start i'll start with the part that i 100 agree with i think that we're at a situation now where big tech has too much power. And, you know, I can't give you the clean answer to what should happen there. But I think that the second that you are editorializing social media, there is a problem. And, you know, I mean, look, I'm fine with very hard, you know, like, hey, I don't want, like, Nazi propaganda on any of these things. I don't want, you know, like those viewpoints out there because I think that's problematic.

But outside of that, you know. What about communist viewpoints? Yeah, I mean, like, communists are great at killing people. They're better than anybody. Yeah, absolutely absolutely but do we treat them the same way yeah that's it you know it's a valid question right um i i think that i think people need to be able to like i would much rather have more voices out there and more of those voices or voices that i hate and despise and think are the worst people on planet earth then have a giant corporation decide who is good and who is bad because even if you're a good person like even

let's just let's just assume that facebook is trying to do the right thing for a second their opinions are not going to be your opinions are not going to be my opinions and so now what we have is we have a group of people that are all essentially from california that grew up with a certain viewpoint that are deciding what is appropriate speech now i 100 understand that these are private companies and they're you know they are not um regulated by the first amendment that being said you know when they essentially control everyone's voice i mean like if you if you take facebook instagram youtube google i mean that is a huge chunk of the internet so we know now that the federal government has been working directly

with big tech to censor their political right yeah yep and i you know the facebook thing was i'm not going to say it was shocking because uh you know the the last you know year and a half of working around government i i definitely any dream i had that that our government was the west wing is gone yeah no uh well i i just think that, you know, it was like four years ago when I was reading an article that said civil war is likely. I can't remember who it was. I think it was the Atlantic. They interviewed a bunch of security experts. And it said that it was like 30 to 70 percent chance of a civil war in the next decade. And I was like, wow.

And then what I ended up hearing from all these conservative pundits was that it would never happen because the federal government wouldn't allow it. Well, lo and behold, the federal government has completely bifurcated at this point, with whistleblowers coming out accusing the DOJ of corruption, 20 plus, and the DOJ itself overtly engaging in partisan political activities. I do think, and you know, this is one of your things, the Uniparty, right? I think when it comes to certain things, the Uniparty right i think when it comes to certain things the uniparty reigns supreme i don't think it's in either major political party's best interest to allow a civil war and so i think that that is an instance where you would have solidarity how would they stop a civil

war i mean you know by force through economic means there's a lot of tools but so let's write that down force how would that apply how would how would you stop a civil, by force, through economic means, there's a lot of tools. So let's break that down. Force. How would that apply? How would you stop a civil war by force? I mean, you'd use the military. You'd use police. And what would they do specifically?

I think it depends on the situation, right? At first, it would be quelling riots. But, you know, I think... What happens in riots when the police intervene? People die. The riots get worse. Yeah, yeah. So my fears are that what might end up happening first is that two guys in a small town in Nebraska, seeing what's going on, just walk up and put up a checkpoint.

That's it. And then someone calls and complains, but it's a jurisdictional issue. It's a state level. Feds have no authority to intervene at all. One by one, you start seeing more instances like what happened with the Bundys and the Bureau of Land Management. More and more people in more rural areas start saying no, but it's always an internal issue and the feds have no authority. So the federal government actually can't intervene when it comes to states' issues. Well, also, the DOJ has been politicized.

The military could be politicized as well. And many times when there's historical, global, civil conflicts internally, it's the military fighting other military forces. Society is bifurcated. But I'm curious on that point, how the United States would stop a civil conflict or civil unrest, especially with its history in Vietnam, and let's not kid ourselves, also Afghanistan,

where they have failed tremendously when it came to fighting the Taliban, which is now only that much stronger and better well-equipped after trillions of dollars and 19 years of our soldiers going over there. Plus, morale is at an all-time low. Recruitment levels are at record lows. So if they can't even stop guys with flip-flops,

how are they going to stop guys here in the United States? Again, I mean, there's a jump that I think you guys are making. And listen, you're all smart people. I'm not coming at anybody. I just think there is a huge jump between intermittent violence that is being largely, i think uh pushed by media personalities because it's a hot button topic everybody wants to talk about civil war i think just you know constantly having this conversation is even problematic because the crazy people start

believing that this has to happen um i do not think most amer Americans have the stomach or desire for it. I think fundamentally, like... But you're right. And I think because of that reason, I do not think we will have, you know, a, I don't want to say real, but a real civil war. How did the Syrian civil war start? I mean, it's always balkanization of people. Oh, protests. Street protests.

But it's always a balkanization of, you know, oppressed minority. You know, it's... But this is important. Yeah. Do you know how the Syrian civil war started? Well, I mean... The Arab Spring, obviously, starts with Tunisia. What was the guy's name?

Was it... The fruit vendor. It wasn't Mohamed Bouazizi, was it? That sounds very familiar. He might have been a journalist guy. What was the guy's name? Was it... The fruit vendor. It wasn't Mohammed Wazizi, was it? That sounds very familiar. He might have been a journalist guy. So in Syria, you ended up with, following the suit of the Arab Spring, a bunch of street protests. At least as it was reported, because I don't trust the U.S. reporting apparatus in this regard,

considering the U.S. wanted to remove Bashar al-Assad. The government started shooting at protesters. When the government tried quelling the unrest, it became a civil war. So if we started getting widespread rioting and protests on a greater scale, well, it's entirely possible considering the size of the United States. If the government did try to intervene,

it would actually be the catalyst for the civil war like it was in Syria. I think the problem Americans have is that they think, for one, like you keep saying, Americans don't want war. Of course they don't. No one ever did. No one in any of these countries ever wanted war. But small political factions started one, and then peoples had their homes blown up.

90 plus percent of people just flee, and then the country crumbles. So what I see as being a terrifying possibility is hyperpolarization happened because of COVID and because of the social and political polarization. We're now seeing geographical polarization. For one, I left New York to South Jersey, left South Jersey to West Virginia. We're seeing a lot of that, people fleeing to Texas. What's happening there is that red areas are becoming redder, blue areas are becoming bluer. And this has actually been happening for 30 or 40 years. For sure.

The geographical alignment for a civil war has been occurring for decades now. Now you add on hyper-tribalization with the president actually saying 74 million people are an extremist threat. The powder keg's been primed and ready to go. I mean, you can't look like a president coming on TV and giving an address and they're cheering for it. These progressive and liberal personalities are celebrating saying good. And they're cheering for it. These progressive and liberal personalities are celebrating saying good. And they're calling for the weaponization of the government, of law enforcement to go after their political rivals. Meanwhile, the equivalent crimes committed by their faction go unanswered. I mean, we're sitting on the edge of something. You can call whatever

you want. But the fear I have, there's an article written by the Bulwark, and I certainly don't agree with these guys, but they wrote that it could even be as soon as November 2022. Now, part of me wants to have optimism bias and say it's not possible or a normalcy bias. It just couldn't happen. It could never happen. But their argument is that don't you think that all of these Trump supporters and Republicans, I believe it's two thirds of Republicans who believe the election was stolen. Don't you think they're going to go out to these polling locations and they're going to be surrounding them to certain degrees, just watching, making sure nothing bad happens.

And don't you think Antifa will also in kind show up to protest? Won't that lead to fighting at polling stations? What happens if one fight happens at one polling station and they're forced to shut it down? And then a large faction of people aren't able to vote. What happens then when a court challenge escalates and they say the vote is illegitimate because we weren't actually able to vote? And the court says, we don't have a full tabulation because a whole county of 400,000 people didn't vote. What if that happens? And that's seemingly reasonable. That's in line with people saying, oh, we know the Proud Boys and Antifa fight. Okay, what if they fight at a polling place in November?

Like you could end up with even five polling locations shutting down and lawsuits just halting everything and then us getting no real clear answer on the election. That's the bulwarks statement. Yep. Yeah. I mean, you know, I mean, you can game any scenario. And, you know, I think, are those things possible? Absolutely. I just think that there are a lot of people in press that are profiting by talking about this stuff. And I don't think it's as widespread as, you know, the articles and social media would have you believe. Like, I do not think that this is where we're at right now. I think that politicians are incredibly disappointing right now across the board. I don't think anybody right now has a vision of the future. I don't

think anybody's trying to say, this is where I want to take America. This is how we get better. This is how, you know, we, we kind of rise above it. I think that the easiest thing for everybody to do is to just tell, you know know talk about how the other organization is terrible i agree with you that there is an element of sensationalism to some media coverage but i disagree with you that this topic is problematic i think this topic is important because i think it's it's a big problem and if you ignore a problem it only festers and grows and i think there is a big problem between the left and the right and americans that are being divided and conquered i'm not saying i'm not saying that it should be ignored but it's to the point where it's almost like civil war porn now like everybody do

you know how many times i've now seen like this is what could happen these are the things that might kick it off like everyone's talking about it in a way almost with excitement you know it's great for clicks it's great for uh you know sensationalism it's a great headline but think about the logic there for a second no i listen the logic's there like again there's a lot no no i mean is uh earlier today uh i couldn't this is a true story earlier today i went to go pick up eggs because we have the chickens i gotta grab the eggs and uh you know when I came back to get back to work, I couldn't help but notice the smell of crap. And then I'm like, oh, that's weird. So what do you know what I did? I looked at my shoe.

Sure enough, there it was. On my boot. That's why it was on my shoe. That's why I smelled it. Maybe the reason you're seeing so much pop up about it is because something's happening. Now, you might say. It's possible. Listen, anything's possible.

I'll tell you what I think. Yeah. I think you have what's called a normalcy bias. And you know what that means? I do. You're saying all of these people are doing it because it's good clicks and it makes them money. Maybe the reality is that's just your normalcy bias.

Certainly, we couldn't actually be facing a civil war. The feds wouldn't allow it. Certainly, the only reason they're doing it is because it makes them money. Or there's the other that people have been fighting each other in the street for years now. The elections have been completely contentious. 2016, they claimed the Russians were involved and they tried holding up the electors. 2020, same thing, except that culminated in January 6th, which was absolutely insane. Now you're actually to the point where the president is going on TV and demonizing half the country.

And then two weeks later, a guy murders a kid. It's like, you know, Andy Ngo gets, gets, gets just brutally beaten covering a protest. You, you can, you can see the arrest, uh, the trial of Alex Jones. You can see it in any, any thing, seemingly apolitical. And there is a political lens focused on it. You can see it in the Ukraine Ukraine gate scandal. Donald Trump uncovered corruption rather accidentally, so they impeached him for it. Joe Biden actually flies his son in Air Force Two to China for private equity deals.

Nothing happens there. There clearly is two distinct realities. Doesn't matter who you support or otherwise, but this is literally happening. I think the reason you're seeing so much about it, MSNBC, I don't think it's an issue of sensationalism for MSNBC to come out and say this because they're four years late to the party. The stuff they're talking about with violence in the street was happening in 2016 and 2017. They're six years late to the party. Only now they're talking about it. Yo, I watch people get the crap beaten out of them.

I watch people make makeshift explosives and throw them in Berkeley. This stuff's been escalating dramatically. And now we're to the point, I remember telling people, they kept, they keep saying nothing's happening. It won't happen. Then a dude shows up in Tacoma with a ghost gun and firebombs and tries firebombing an ice facility. And they're like, that's one crazy guy.

Then you get a dude walking up to another dude, Aaron Danielson in Portland, seemingly seeking out a conservative. And then you hear, we got one, we got something like that. And then he shoots him twice in the chest, killing him. This guy had a communist tattoo on his neck. If you're going to look at all of these things that are happening, the grains of sand being added, culminating with the boulder of the president demonizing half the country, and then a murder following it, I just feel like you're choosing to ignore it.

No, I'm not choosing to ignore it. I think all of these things are problematic. I just think if you look over the history of our country, we've had violence, we've had protests, we've had, you know, all kinds of issues. And we've been able to get through it. And I just am more of an optimist about the American people. i do not think that we are going to have open civil war i think that we are i think we have a few more years of very contentious political situation i think we will have more violence i do agree with you there but you know when you're talking about civil war when you're talking about the end of the union i don't think we're there and i was at the end of the union well mean. The Civil War didn't end the union.

It preserved it. Fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah, and I don't agree with the idea that it's pessimistic or optimistic to say that something is happening. Perhaps it's pessimistic if you were to say it's all going to crumble down and that's it. It's over. I think something bad is going to happen but the end result will be something you know always something positive i think it's more

realistic for versus i don't know it's not idealistic well i i think there also should be a concerted effort to try to stop this divide i think there should be an effort to try to stop this civil conflict i agree and when you look at the corporate media's coverage, it is amping it up. It is saying, we need it. They're going to attack us. These people are going to come into your bedroom when you're sleeping. And you see this kind of bombastic language

from the corporate media. And independent media has been saying, hey, hey, hey, let's try to stop this madness. People are just screaming. There's a lot of insane people that are getting on the microphones, getting on the microphones, getting on the major communication highways. But sadly, big tech social media also elevates those voices.

Big tech social media that, of course, has connections to, of course, the intelligence agencies that, of course, works on the behest of the federal government, censors voices and ups voices that, of course, they want to promote. And let's be honest, from the last few years, they have been promoting drama. They have been promoting infighting. They have been promoting the most toxic voices that get the most amount of attention, that get the most amount of clicks. Some people say that's because of monetary incentives. Some people say that's because of a larger agenda.

I think that's an agenda that deserves to be called out no matter what the real reason for it is. But they're censoring the right side of the culture war and promoting the left side, regardless of whether it's, you know, on the right, you could make a joke about something on TV that was violent and they'll ban you for pushing violence. The left, we see on Twitter,

they actually post addresses to organize, to engage in violence and they get away with it. But I'll throw it back to 2019 when I was on the Jogan Experience with the Twitter people and I said outright, if you keep doing this, it's going to result in something serious as violence and chaos. And they did keep doing it. They still keep doing it. Facebook's now been exposed to working with the government to do it. And what's happened? Everything's gotten substantially worse. January 6th, for instance.

I'm not saying January 6th was an insurrection. I think it was a riot. But it was a riot at the Capitol. That's why it was so bad. I think the violent people should be charged for it. But to act like that wasn't a significant moment, that is a dramatic escalation. So, you know, I'll put it this way. I've had people who, from back in 2018, would tell me I was wrong.

Now, you know, they'll come to me and be like, so I thought you said something, blah, blah, blah, in 2018. And then I go january 6th and they go oh yeah yeah do you think it ends with january 6th you think all those trump supporters are just happy i don't i don't think it ends with january so i do want to say like the the difference between january 6th and all of the other violence and and just to be super clear i think it's absurd anytime that we're like oh yeah it's no big deal this violence was because so and so felt this way or that way. Like, no, you don't get to just destroy property, murder people, beat people up because you're mad.

Like, that is not a protest. That is, you know, that is something else. And so, you know, I think in all of those situations, it's appropriate to arrest people and, you know, and press charges and whatever. The violent ones. Yes, the violent ones. Exactly. Well, well yeah so here we have but i think the difference with january 6th is it is literally people trying to change the outcome of an election and that is the precipice of a civil war again i know what you're saying but it is a small group of people doing an act. Did that kick off, you know, a host of other violence throughout the country?

Like, no, it didn't. Did most people say this was a good thing? No, they didn't. You know, and so I think that you have to look at that. There's always going to be craziness, you know, and you have, you know. Has the craziness escalated over the past decade? Over the past decade over the past decade yes is there is there any reason to believe that that it would stop yeah i i think that people are tired of the direction the country's going i i think so i think that when you look at you know i, I personally think... Trump supporters are going to be like, you know, guys, I don't want to argue anymore.

No, I don't think that, but I think that... Well, so hold on, hold on. Let's try and walk through this. Trump supporters won't say, okay, I'm done with this. Trump supporters are not going to say that they're done with that. Are Democrats who hate Trump going to say, we're totally cool with Trump supporters winning elections? No. Okay, so there's no sign of it slowing down. No, I disagree because I think that I think Ron DeSantis is going to win the primary. I think he is more moderate than President Trump.

I think he is less aggressive towards people than President Trump. I think people do not want, most people do not want that level of aggression in a president. I think that while the far left kind of applauded Joe Biden's comments, I think most people, including most Democrats, were not super pleased with a red background emperor situation, you know, calling out, you know, however called out maga so it's it's not exactly half the country but it's a you know a third maybe i don't think four million votes i don't think that's i don't think that's helpful you know i don't think that's good and i don't think people

want that in general like so if if uh you know when when biden did this prominent all the biggest names on social media cheered for it on the left sure yeah and all the biggest names on the right condemned it yep my my question is if we've seen these factions growing but those people don't represent america they represent trump gained 12 million new voters from 2016 to 2020 his movement expanded dramatically and his endorsement ratio is higher now than it was in 2016, 18 and 20 and 2020. He's at what, 92 percent. So the MAGA Republican side has actually expanded dramatically. Looking at these numbers, looking at the rhetoric and now the escalation of violence and even statements from the leader of the Democratic Party, everything has escalated to it in a substantial way,

like a snowball rolling down a hill. You could argue, and I think it's fair to say, maybe right now it all just stops. Who do I, what do I know? Maybe the Trump supporters are like, man, we really don't want it. You know what? Keep the child sex changes, do mail-in voting. We are just going to let you do it. I really see that as completely unlikely. Well, on the inverse, Ron DeSantis, maybe he can come out and send more people to Martha's Vineyard because we know how much they like that. Oh, I'm sorry. They called him Hitler for doing it. They claim that he was a human trafficker now and he must be stopped. They're claiming he's worse than Trump. He's more tactful than Trump. Maybe they'll just stop and say, you know what? We're totally okay with fascism and the fascist taking over. No, I don't see why that's

probable. So if we're looking at over the past decade, consistent escalation with the, and I think a lot of it has to do with the millennial generation getting older and gaining more power in government and in corporations. If we've seen escalation and we see no signs of de-escalation, then if you're going to put down your chips and make your bet, it would be on escalation. Okay, so maybe it's possible that from here we don't go to civil war. Maybe we're still four years out. Maybe it's eight years out. Maybe it's 10 years out.

Who knows? Maybe we're just in a precursor phase. But either way, so far, we have seen no signs of this slowing down or reversing in any way. Well, I hope I'm right. I mean, I gotta be honest. I hope so too. I hope you're right too. I hope you're absolutely right.

Because I'll tell you this. You know what I want more than anything? Get a lounge. We got a massage chair downstairs. I just want to turn it on, turn the TV on with, you know, maybe like the X Games, maybe some snowboarding,

get a big old bucket of chicken wings and let that be the day. Instead, what we get is I wake up in the morning and I see a story about crime murders sweeping these cities, 200% murder increase in Portland. There's a crazy video right now. I mean, just after the summer of love, seeing all of these bodegas just destroyed, these small businesses, watching these videos of people randomly stabbing people in the street, all of it is dramatically escalated. Seeing these videos of people, open air drug markets in San

Francisco, it's not just that it's political violence and escalation. It's that the economy is even in crisis. We're a year delayed on trying to put up a steel frame building. It's just everything I've been seeing over the past decade in every way, food prices, inflation. Now we've got the sterling, the pound has collapsed to near dollar parity. The euro's below the dollar. You've got war in Eastern Europe. Russia's conscripting. Russia's threatening nuclear weapons. China's firing missiles over Taiwan. All of these things just keep escalating. I don't know if I would call it in the big picture pessimistic to say these things are happening because they're literally happening. And just because you think the probability of such a thing would lead to an escalation of it, I don't think that's pessimistic.

I suppose pessimistic would be like we're all going to die and our lives are ruined. But I'm actually fairly optimistic on all of it. I think bad things are happening, but I think it's going to make us stronger. I think we're going to be okay. I think people will find a way to survive and humans will do what humans do best and adapt and keep going. But first things, it's just going to hit the fan, family-friendly show here, I think in some way. And I think there are a lot of ingredients, you know, corporate media, social media, the poor economic outlook.

I think all of that, along with the captured institutions, signals some major troubles ahead. I hope it gets figured out. I hope it gets better. But there's a lot of fuel being added to this fire. But back to the original point, you know, you were in Afghanistan. The United States couldn't stop that conflict. How can they stop a domestic conflict? But your experiences in Afghanistan were also probably.

That's a different situation, though, right? It's a different situation where, you know, you have a different culture and you don't. It's not your world. You're trying to influence someone else versus this is who you are. I think California already seceded, effectively. I mean, they've outright said over and over again over the past two, three decades, they won't abide by federal law. They use illegal immigration as a means to bolster their census so they can get extra power in the federal government. I believe in the last census they had, in the last decade, they had one extra electoral vote and seat in Congress due to illegal immigrants that they allow in and block the federal government from enforcing the law.

So when you're dealing with something like that, I mean, you know what? I'll just say one last thing on it. Texas filed a lawsuit. I think it was against Pennsylvania. I think 46 states signed onto that lawsuit challenging the 2020 election. I mean, that, my friends, is like dramatic Civil War territory. And Clarence Thomas and I think Alito said it is our responsibility to hear cases in the original jurisdiction, which is the Supreme Court for the states.

But the other justices said we will not. And so what ends up happening there is the worst possible outcome. The people who said we have grievances and we demand a redress of those grievances were told over and over and over again, no. So that just makes desperate people take desperate actions. And that's what's scary. JFK said those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable. I think the fraud narrative is just wrong. I think obviously there's questions about certain things that happen. There's always some kind of fraud, but I think Trump lost because the media

mobilized people because COVID mobilized people because COVID hurt Trump. Trump kept Fauci on a lot of things like that. But when people come and say, we feel like this is unfair and it's 74 million voters, almost half the voting block, we say, let's work out what's making you upset and make sure we can come to an agreement on how to move forward. Instead, all of the courts simply said, no, we won't do it. We won't even hear what you have to say or look at anything you're presenting. Almost all of the court cases that were brought weren't even on fraud. They were on procedure and they were thrown out on standing. So these people didn't even get a chance to have someone say, your argument is wrong. They outright said, we won't even bother with you.

That's the kind of thing that results in January 6th. And then January 6th resulted in people. There are still people who haven't even been charged with a crime who are in solitary confinement. That's the kind of thing that results in people losing their minds. Absolutely. What a Friday. You're all entertained. Civil War Fridays. Absolutely. What a Friday. I hope you're all entertained.

That's right. Civil War Fridays. Yeah, Civil War Fridays. Well, anyway. Well, let's maybe try to focus on the more positive aspects. How can we prevent, from your intelligence and from your understanding, what are some positive things we could do

to try to bridge this gap, bridge this divide? Is there anything even possible that could help the American people see that they have more in common than they don't? Honestly, I'm a firm believer that you invest in your community and don't worry about the national media apparatus. And I know that sounds very simple, but, you know, I can get online and I can give speeches and I can talk about things and, you know, and people will follow me and some people will hate me and you know, whatever it is, but that just becomes like the noise of the day online. What I can affect is I can donate my time coaching.

I can donate my time to NGOs, I can invest in my family, my children, my friends, you know, help people be part of the community, make the people around me better. I think fundamentally, when people focus on those things, life gets better. And when people spend, invest a lot of time arguing online, do not get better because arguing online gives you the impression that like everything is life or death like you know we've all been there somebody pissed you off online you end up spending two hours arguing with some idiot on twitter uh you know and at the end of it you're like you're amped and you're you know you're frustrated and you're like what did i just do you, and you get this impression that like people are your enemy, but they're just bored

online. They're aggravated by something you said, whereas, and probably 14 years old and possibly 14 years old. Um, but you know, but in person, I've literally never had these kinds of aggressive, you know, and I'm in a town where almost everyone disagrees with like my viewpoint, you know, certainly on, you know, like the second amendment and some of the other, the other things, but, um, I've never had these aggressive conversations. The conversations are always reasonable because they're in person. You're looking at somebody, you're reading body language. You, you realize that this person is, you know, is coming from a good place. So if we're, I think personal investment in your community is the best thing you can do.

And it doesn't feel the same. It doesn't feel national. It doesn't feel like, oh, I'm changing the world. But the truth is you're going to change the world more doing that than trying to put out some message to message to like save the day i certainly agree with uh people should be taking care of themselves their friends their families working on themselves eating right exercising and that'll dramatically change their world for the positive hey we too many people we got one we got one

no but but it's it's needed to have these conversations i think you know your perspective your point of view is important to to to get into and to talk and to have civil conversations about. And I think the more civil conversations we have, the better. How do we, you know, address the problems coming our way? I think, you know, they're very severe and they are going to take us being the best versions of ourselves, being the healthiest, the most strongest versions of ourselves. Because, again, financially again financially you know the situation is also getting very bleak a lot of people are going to get very desperate and the thing that's going to protect people is themselves as individuals and their family the economy is always critical

the economy goes bad people are unhappy i mean just in in i'll say i'll say one thing too you know earlier in that point when you were saying that you think people are talking about this because it gets clicks my rebuttal was maybe it's because it's actually happening but fair point my perspective could be the broken one you could be the one who's actually right the media is just gamifying everything and i'm seeing you know this hyper focused reality as well maybe what the media is doing i'm sure it's a little column a and a little column b to be honest yeah yeah hopefully the end result is people, you know, chilling out. One of the things that we're doing with our website, TimCast.com, is we only have one

political show. Technically two, but it's like TimCast IRL's Conversation and then my morning show and the shows that we're creating outside of this are, you know, Tales from the Inverted World is true crime, mystery, history. Pop Culture Crisis is pop culture. Cast Castle Vlog is, you know ian being crazy and silly and it's just comedy and it's just apolitical because i think that is important we need to make content that isn't in that space for a variety of reasons we want to push back

against the woke weirdness but not in a way where we're like making videos we're like wokeness is bad where yeah sure no we just make shows that are funny that happen to not be woke or you know at least not overtly ridiculous i'm gonna go to the bath oh well thanks for letting us know but there's still you know a lot of questions like how would you deal with uh a drag queen story time coming to your neighborhood would you do anything about it would you try to maybe mobilize or try to get the word out or how would you deal with the situation like that in like a again i think it depends on the situation like i would want to know exactly what's happening and assess like if it's you know if it's a just a trans person that is coming in to read i don't have an issue with that if it is a sexualized show then my child will not

be there what about a stripper yeah definitely not a stripper but what if they don't strip they're just like wearing their stripper makeup and like yeah none of that is well that's what drag is i understand what you're saying but a lot of these stories online have said drag show and it has not in fact been a drag show it's well no no that's why i'm asking if like if a stripper showed up but didn't actually remove any clothing would you be okay with the stripper reading to your kids no i like they're wearing any sexualized anything sexualized is inappropriate so like a drag story i would be inappropriate if it is actually a drag show well like a drag the drag costume is like they're wearing lingerie like they usually do in in that situation it is inappropriate so

like if but but again there are multi i've seen multiple stories where it's like drag show and then you look at it and it's just a trans woman that is reading and then they're not drag people are not people in drag are not trans i know what you're i know what you're saying like no i know what you're saying yeah but but that is not actually what i'm telling you is that the story headline does not marry to the facts. What do you mean by that? I'm saying. So the drag queen story hour, the drag queen comes and reads to kids.

Yeah, has not necessarily been a, I do not think that anything sexualized should be involved with children. So no drag queens in front of kids? Nothing sexualized. I just want to. But why can't you just say i don't understand well so it's like do you know what drag is i do so they get on stage they take clothes off and they're given tips by the audience yes so stripping is very similar yes go-go dancing and bikini bars are in states where they don't allow full nudity right the women will get up on stage take their costume off yes and expose under layers. Drag is the same.

None of that is okay. What I'm saying is that what the media has called drag has not necessarily been that, which is why I'm trying to be very specific about my language. I don't know any instance that you're talking about. So there's specific events that are called Drag Queen Story Hour, and that's what we're talking about. Yeah, I'm not a fan. That would not be something I would want my kids to be.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think anyone cares if that's like a trans person like just reading the kids people do care then that's what i'm saying that's what i mean yeah yeah and there are a lot of people of uh you know there are people getting mad when white teachers are talking about stuff that's not in line with woke values and there's like a seattle library created white only spaces and colored only spaces it was the weirdest thing ever and deeply offensive and then i'm sorry people of color is what they call it but i feel it's deeply it's the same level of offense and then dearborn michigan did the same thing so you know you have that across the board and i think we all just outright disagree with it um yeah i think the the problem

is the ideologies of the the disparate culture war factions are so distinct now that there is no middle space that people can occupy. Yeah. And a lot of times... It is hard. I've seen the opposite problem because I've seen, you know, media talking about it, but then the actual photos and videos of it are way worse than I could even imagine personally from what I've seen online. But my question was more centered towards the solution aspect. You know, when we talk about a community you wouldn't bring your children there but would you get involved or try to prevent this from from happening or or how can a community safeguard against those kind of bad influences that do provide sexual content to small children yeah so i you know i haven't been in that position so it's hard for me to answer i i worry like i worry

about my children so you, if other parents think it's appropriate for their children, then they can make that decision. My kids won't, will not be involved in something like that. And that, that's the way I look at it. That's a good point too. I think the, uh, one of, one of the challenges with this whole debate over kids and this kind of stuff is where people think the government should be intervening in what parents are showing their kids. And so, right in the Bible, there are things that are considered adult. Sure. But of course, you know, people who really just want their kids to read the Bible. I think the issue is just parental consent if the parents decide. But there's also

got to be limits, I suppose, because I think everybody agrees like no school should be handing hustler to some kids. And where where is the line on those values is a challenge because you know in the book gender queer the right says it's sexually explicit and shouldn't be shown but the left says so what it should be and that's where they don't agree on the values but to a conservative you're basically putting but in front of kids but do you do you really think that the left when you say that like it gets it gets very murky right i don't think that most democrats think that you know their teenage kids should have a book and you know be handed a book in high school that uh shows

blowjobs or sexual well these are great schools even worse i don't i don't know and you're right like i don't know anyone on the left that is like you're you're right and this is why glenn youngkin won when the right when the parents because of the zoom school the parents started learning the schools were doing this yeah so the the challenge is they lie about it so when you so what do i see from all of my liberal friends is they're saying that uh the right is banning books and then i'll say something like well no they're banning sexually explicit materials. And then they'll say, no, you're wrong. Don't care.

So you can actually. There's plenty of that. I agree with you. There's plenty of that online. But what do you do when they keep voting for it? Like, I mean, this is the problem. I agree with you. And I tell people all the time, the one thing you should say to your neighbors when you're

talking about politics, if you really want to just say, look, I don't know about any of that trump stuff i just think we shouldn't be giving children sex change surgery and they're going to say overwhelmingly that never happens and then my response to them is like you know jazz jennings has a show i think on amc or some other or i don't know what channel it's on like yeah they they give kids sex changes i just i don't i think it's probably wrong but there are people who just either won't believe it refuse to listen to evidence larry elder came on the show and said that he had a friend who believed the uh the hoax about to donald trump i think it was the very fine people hoax and he said he pulled up the transcript and says here just read it and

the guy says no so what do you do just say no. They won't do it. Sure. And that's the most common thing. Yeah. But I mean, my experience, you know, because I will sit on Facebook and I'll see these memes

from all these like Occupy Wall Street people I know. And so I'll just post pictures and then they'll just delete the comment. You know, they'll say like, this that otherwise happened and then I'll just post

a news story in a picture and they will delete the comment so no one can see it and i'm like okay and the response that i got was that i'm breaking consensus reality because that's more important and i was just one person who told me that but i think that exemplifies it i think there's people who just want everyone to fit in yeah i think it's always good that that you you know one of the things that i respect about you is that you push back i don't always agree with you, but I think that you structure your thoughts the right way and that you come at things with the intention of coming to the truth. Now, we might come at it from a different angle,

and we might disagree on some of the different pieces, but I think that having conversation is incredibly important yeah and i i think it it is harder and harder to have conversation not only because like you and i are having this conversation but i know that as a result of you and i having this conversation i am going to get a whole bunch of people that like me and a whole bunch of people that hate me oh Oh yeah. I'm going to get people that hate me just because I'm here. Right. Just because I came on the show. And that is so different than how I grew up.

I think this is a great discussion, you know, as much as I probably talk too much, but having pushback on the stuff we frequently talk about is one of the most important things we can do. So I think that's fantastic. Obviously, I think, you know, the audience listening, probably they listen because they probably agree with a lot of what I say. Sure. So I think that's fantastic. Obviously, I think the audience listening, probably they listen because they probably agree with a lot of what I say. So they'll probably disagree with you, but a lot of people have been agreeing with you and some people have been insulting me and stuff like that. I think it's all good within reason. I mean, we try to keep

our criticism to functional, but I thought this was a fantastic conversation. Let's go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, be the notification you want to see from YouTube because they're not doing it. And what did I say? Go to TimCast.com, be a member? Sure.

All right, let's read. Hex Mayor says, it's so great to see Nick Ahn, creator of the greatest zombie movie ever, Range 15. Nick would love to hear about your car ride with Alex Soros and tim kennedy what was that all about uh which george which one is yeah alex soros and tim kennedy all right so

this is this is one of the wildest things that has happened to me so tim and i got back we left we left afghanistan to uh to uae and then from uae, we had to move 300 people that were being hosted by a nonprofit. And all of this had been coordinated with State Department and the Albanian government and this NGO. And so Tim and I are going to bring these 300 people to Albania. So we leave UAE on a plane full of full of Afghans. And, you know, we land, you know, it's like 2 a.m. And like all this press is there. There's all these people. And, you know, we're we're supposed to be meeting everybody at the resort where all of these afghans were housed the next day

and so we get there and it's amazing afghan like it the the half one of the happiest moments my life or like you know some of these kids that were literally like laying on the tarmac that's lives had lives had just been in jeopardy and the next time i see them they are playing tag and they're drawing pictures and like like literally tears in my eyes and then this woman who we had been kind of you know uh speaking with was like hey you know um Alex wants to meet you guys like you know he wants to and I have no idea who we're talking about just like her boss Alexlex and so you know this limo pulls up and and we're we're gonna go get lunch with alex and you know so tim and i get in the car and there's two bodyguards in there and there's this dude um and we're sitting there and you know we're

talking to him he's perfectly nice and um tim just leans over and he goes, I think, I think this is Alex Soros. And I was like, bro, I think it is Alex Soros. How old is he? He's like our age. Well, I say our age, I'm older, but you know, he's, how old are you? I'm 45. Oh, okay. Yeah. So you are older. I'm older. Yeah. And, but yeah, he's 30s,s you know yeah uh probably like 38 my guess you want to look it up see how close i am i say 38 that's my guess well then i'm 36 so our age is yeah yeah so um so then kennedy goes he just he he does this look he looks around looks at both the security guards and he just goes hey man uh nick and i could totally kill you if we wanted to no he does he does he goes he's like uh and and he goes like that guy is the only guy in the car with a gun and i'm gonna grab him and while i'm grabbing him nick's

definitely taking out the other guy and then it's me and nick against you and alex go to his credit like stone-faced he goes tim are you gonna kill me he's like tim's like no of course not like you know you're very nice and you're doing a great thing for these afghans he's like good but then his other security guard this english guy is like i told you we needed more security i i take it more as of him giving a warning to him, like, you need more security. That's what it was. It was all in good. Nobody actually, like, he wasn't threatening anybody.

Wow, that's a crazy story. But it was like, we got in this vehicle, and we just, we had no idea. Man. We had no idea. And then it was like, you know. That's great. He's 36.

Oh, he's 36. I was in the ballpark. He should come on the show. It'd be great to talk to him. Hey, I'll tell you what. Like, you know, he's 36. I was in the ballpark. He should come on the show. It'd be great to talk to him. Hey, I'll tell you what. Okay. You know, he was great. I'll just say he was great.

And he was very generous to the Afghans. I'll say that. Yeah. I always think it's important to give people credit when they do things that are good. 100%. You know, positive outcome. Even if like, you know, I'll give AOC credit when she called out the police on January 6th for opening the doors and all that stuff. I'm like, she's right. Let's get an investigation.

I want to know what happened with that. Because that means there may be some innocent people in jail. It means some people who should be aren't. Alright, we got Catherine Gillen says, in the UK, the TCs have changed our bank accounts. Quote, if there is an unstable economy that affects

the banking markets, we will limit your funds and if you have too much money in your account, we will charge you. Whoa. Wow. Can someone look that up to see if they're reporting on that? Yeah, I'd love to see if they're... How would I... What's it?

Bank limits UK war or something? I don't know. Because the pound was collapsing. This seems, you know... That makes sense. Yeah, man. Sam says, my brother was in Afghanistan during the surrender

at Bagram. He said it was like they woke up that morning and made the decision totally unplanned. Yeah. That's crazy. Does that sound like

what you've heard? That's consistent with everything I've heard is it was a huge surprise. They didn't even tell the Afghans that they were leaving. They just left

in the middle of the night. And then they looted the base. It's crazy trash panda says nick love your few cartoons especially the gun control one oh yeah my drill sergeant showed my platoon in basic down at fort benning hope it's hope is not a plan oh so a while ago i had a animated cartoon called the damn few when i was when i was still running when i was still running ranger up uh and uh it's like uh it started off like two minute videos and then by the end we were doing full like 30 minute episodic animations so that was a lot of fun right on katherine gillen adds more as london has a big hand in the world's financial markets with libor

this is really bothering me as it looks like they might try to freeze our bank accounts. They have already done this in Greece before. Everyone check your bank's terms and conditions. Oh, that's what she was saying, TCs. You know, Catherine, I really do appreciate the British pounds you've sent. It's just, you know, the values drop so much.

I actually was in Greece when they prevented people from taking money out of their own accounts. And there was just massive riots. I saw so much violence in the streets there. And it happens a lot. It happens in so many different places around the world. I was there on the ground reporting in Zimbabwe as well.

It happened recently in China. They just sent tanks on the streets there because people can't get their money out of their bank accounts. In Lebanon, people are literally going to the banks with guns, holding the guns. No, she had a fake gun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they don't want the bank's money. They want their own money. And the banks are saying, we're not going to give it to you.

There was a famous guy who had to pay for his father's surgery, couldn't pay for it, literally got a gun, became a national case. And those cases are becoming more common all over the world. This is why, you know, the first thing I did when, you know, after the end of the year comes in, profits roll in, is I took $250,000 and lined the inside of a banana stand that I have. Oh, yeah? That sounds familiar. It sounds like there's always money in the banana stand. Yeah, just in case. Because, you know, there's always money in the banana stand. I'll tell you what, the more you, I mean, you know this, you've traveled overseas a stand. Yeah, just in case. There's always money in the banana stand. I'll tell you what. The more you... I mean, you know this. You've traveled overseas a lot.

When I travel overseas, I travel with a lot of cash because you just... You don't know. Like Ukraine... The right amount. Too much is bad. You can't go over $2,000, right?

Or $10,000. $10,000. I heard they limited that recently. $10,000 without paying... Taxes and tariffs. Essentially taxes on it. Because then they think you're doing some kind of business. But in Ukraine, it's hard to get cash.

Very hard to get cash. People are using Bitcoin. So we travel with a bunch of American cash every time that we're over there. Yeah, I remember when I was covering news in Kyiv, and we had a bunch of british pounds and dollars and we were paying people with british pounds and dollars and they were just like shocked because the exchange rate's nuts like people there get the equivalent of a couple hundred bucks a month for their salaries yep and then here we come in these like you know westerners covering news this was back in 2014 yeah and we were just like to us it

was normal to be like oh here grab some food hand them 20 bucks and they're going whoa you don't need that much but thank you and we're like yeah okay like you know hey that's cool man i remember landing in india during their currency reset utter chaos all the money was just devalued right away i was in uh me i was in the the former soviet Union right after the collapse of communism. Whoa. Yeah. As part of the Eisenhower program. So I was like 16, 17 and spent a few months in Russia.

And at the time, you know, only a few years prior, it was close to one to one. And it was like a thousand rubles to And, uh, it was like a thousand rubles to the dollar. And I was like a rich high school kid. I was like, this is amazing. You know, uh, came back with all kinds of like art and stuff that I never would have been able to afford. Tetris. Tetris. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Lou Sassel says, Nick, thank you for everything you've done recently watched send me. And it was amazing slash heartbreaking. Truly opens your eyes to what happened. Screw that kernel.

Now excuse me while I go watch Range 15. Gene Vandenham could have saved Afghanistan. He could have. He could have. So Send Me is the documentary about Afghanistan? Send Me is the documentary. So when I went over there, when we all went over there, I threw a Canon C70 in my backpack and, bless you, and, you know, filmed, you know, what was going on. And then, you know, when we got back to UAE, did some interviews and then spent, you know, over the last year I've interviewed everybody again that was there. And we put together a documentary that kind of told the real story of how bad it was because

the U S media, you know, kind of made it seem like, you know, Oh, the Taliban are working with Americans and everything's fine. You know, or meanwhile, like on the ground, you know, people are, the Taliban are, you know, shooting people anytime, any, anything got, people got riled up. They would just, you know know fire an ak into the crowd um you know one of my friends you know was uh trying to get this woman out you know she wasn't this wasn't part of our group part of a different group um and uh they they murdered her right on the hood of the car there was nothing they could do about it. You know, just like, I mean, really horrible stuff was happening.

And, you know, nobody stateside was really telling that story. It was just like, oh, this is a peaceful, you know, and they were not attacking Americans, but they were certainly attacking Afghans. And so we just tried to tell the honest story of kind of what happened and what it was like. And we thought it was important that the American people see it. Where can they find it? It's on Amazon Prime. And, you know, any funds that come into it get donated to the organization that, you know, Tim Kennedy, Chad Robichaud, Sarah Verardo and I founded called Save Our Allies. Now, is that

all proceeds or just profits no literally all of it so there's there's no like cost it's just like if someone spends 20 bucks in the video that 20 bucks goes right to the charity yes well i mean like whatever amazon takes but right but all revenue goes like we set up an llc all revenue goes to that llc and then you know essentially like uh i mean i'm sure we'll have to pay like an accountant but other than that like we are not taking anything from it not even to like recoup costs or anything why did you not make a charity why an llc um so just any time that you make uh like a movie you want it to be its own llc just like there's you know this i think like you know like they want us every song to be its own

company that's just crazy potential lawsuits potential problems but you know like in when you're when it's a when it's an ngo there's there's so many more rules about a four five one c three the things you have to do so this way it's just like hey like whatever money comes into that thing we just cut a check over. Oh, to a nonprofit. I got you. Specifically to save our allies, which is, you know, in the wake of Afghanistan, you know, a good chunk of the people that were part of that evacuation stood up this 501c3, you know, to continue doing that work. And so, you know, and that work has gotten more and more frustrating because it's harder and harder to move afghans um but you know so we're still

helping afghans and then we also have a another part of the organization that is doing work in ukraine all right steve cohen says saw luke in that hbo documentary the anarchist felt like they may try to drag you guys soon with that. Why, was it bad depiction? There's nothing really to drag. Did they show you, like, doing drugs? No. No, no. Ayahuasca? No, no. It looks like

seeing space demons. No, no, none of that. It was an interesting series, to say the least, but... Is it a series? Yeah, yeah. The depiction wasn't, you know, as honest as I thought it should be, but whatever. All right. 11 Bravo NRD says, for Nick, with inflation going on, does my Ranger Up five-year challenge coin only get me an eight-ounce beer instead of the full 12-ounce beer?

Baker Boys 1 through 15, INF third ID. I will buy the full 12-ounce beer. Don't worry about it. Oh, man. Taking a loss. But't worry about it. Oh man, taking a loss. Doing the right thing. All right. Powder PZ says,

if we were in a sane world, Biden would have been forced to resign by now. But unfortunately we live in clown world. That just means Kamala Harris will be president, right? Is that it? I guess. Well, all right. Grayson Hendricks says,

you obviously read a lot on history and you also say it's written by the victor. Given that, how do you determine which books on history to trust? Been a member for about a year. Love the show. Don't know. You don't.

History is written by the victors. You can try and find depictions from other people. So I'm really interested in, I mentioned this a couple of times. I went to Stonewall Jackson's headquarters for when he was uh running defense for the shenandoah valley and there's a book there's a book he wrote and i'm like i'd like to read it but that's how you do it you know like that dude certainly wrote his perspective on the civil war you can read his perspective i mean yo hitler wrote a book like you can read it if you

want to you know so but it is true There's a lot on history that's fake. And when you look at how the media operates today, you know that it's probably faker than you thought. What do you do? No idea. I wonder if there's that message that smallpox wiped out the Native American population, 90% of it. I'm starting to even question that. That's what we were told. For all I know, they went in there with weapons and killed them all. And they were like, no, disease did it.

It wasn't us zach mckeel says someone tell nick to bring back bnn or apologize to the plants for wasting the oxygen they worked so hard to make jk probably what is what was bnn so uh for a few years we had this show called the bad news network and uh basically it was like kind of a comedic look at the news but we covered serious topics like we went in depth on every topic but we did it in a way that was uh manageable so the show was usually 20 to 30 minutes you know we did it once a week and it was like a recap of the big stuff that happened that week um but it was uh it's it's technically owned by ranger up and so when i sold the controlling share of that like like, you know, I stopped doing it.

We're in the process of coming up with a different show. So there will be something new soon. Right on. Free men die free, says Blue Anon has embraced all the pillars of totalitarianism. Civil war will be the end result because it is incompatible to our libertarian foundations. Or, you know, I think one possibility that would potentially avoid war is if we start building up culture. This guy, Vivek Ramaswamy, is that his name? That's his name. Investor goes to Disney and says, stop getting woke.

If these companies actually start rejecting this, then you'll see a lot of these weird occult people break out and be like, oh, I supported that stuff all right oh don't look at me and that will kind of simmer things down but that's a that's a hopefully you know don't know for sure what exactly would happen but i don't know man it seems like things have been been getting crazy brewmaster monk says forget yuri bezmanov watch the k griggs interview from 1998 spouse to a chief of staff colonel in the Marines spilling the beans on Epstein-esque blackmail in the highest levels of the military. You ever hear that, Luke? What's the name again? Kay Griggs interview. Was that the satanic guy?

I have to look into it. Alright, take a look into it. As Luke is doing that, I will be looking at some of these super chats. Camgirl Asuna says says i would say there are legit reasons to see the left and the establishment as enemies look at what they are doing to kids realize that these things aren't happening to an abstract group of kids

but rather to your kids i fight to protect my kids lives yeah well these are tough times i've seen this video like 20 years ago yeah what is it um i have to refresh my memory it was a very long time ago i have it pulled up on youtube right now i'm gonna re-watch it but it's two hours long oh wow jeremy b says damn tim is getting us drunk tonight that's right everybody you know i think we said civil war enough now to where john jones says tim i'm a timcast member and i listen to your shows as a podcast you really need to have a members link that is ad free as in the last few months you have gone overboard with in-show adverts other podcasts offer ad free links

we have not changed our ad structures at all at any point not a thing has changed so if more ads are appearing it might be because youtube automatically puts them in or something. But I don't know. It also depends on where you're watching too. Because I think we do what, like seven ads in the whole podcast? Yeah. Seven or eight? Yep, seven.

Yep, it's always seven. But like seven out of two hours. Right. You know, so over two hours. Why does it work? There's space out like every 20 minutes. That's not bad. No, I think it's actually like way less than most people do.

But it could be that, you know, whatever system you're listening on or on the back end for these platforms, they could be, they could be doubling up or something. I don't know.

Yeah. Oh yeah, you know what? I bet they do double them up. The Daily Wire definitely does more. And then if you don't like what your platform's doing, try a different platform. We are working on a mobile app.

That's right. And once we have that mobile app, we will have the ad-free versions and all of that stuff or we're trying to um it's it's remarkable with the way the economy is right now it's remarkable how hard it is to get anything done we were supposed to have construction started a year ago on freedomistan and it started i think like three months ago and it was supposed to take two weeks and it started three months ago. So that's where we're at. Let's grab some more super chats. Mount Jeeves says, is that Mount Jeeves? Some people don't seem to realize not acting for the sake of saving your possessions or money or family doesn't really

make any sense. They're killing your kids right now. They're taking everything away with inflation. I would say figuratively killing your kids, or there's a major detriment happening to the future of this country in that your kids will have substantially less than you did. I wouldn't be surprised if your grandchildren don't have air conditioning or refrigerators. And I really do mean that. Because humans got by without them,

and you will owe nothing and you will owe nothing, and you will be happy. There you go, man. Let's grab some more Super Chats, try and find something good. There was one I wanted to read, but I can't seem to find it. All right. The Snack Lady Jackie says, I live in North Carolina. None of the rest of our state except Asheville is like Chapel Hill. Nick has no idea what kids are being taught, and most of North Carolina sees the virtue signaling of chapel hill uh virtue signaling of chapel hill ch okay yeah right

i don't know what to say to that all right what do we got here pinochet's helicopter tours interesting Tours, interesting name, says, As a retired Army 11B myself, to pretend government has a monopoly on force and is always in the right seems contrary to the oath I took and history. But I do think there's a lot of people who are in the armed forces who will just follow orders. Yeah. Yeah, I've asked people. That's what history dictates. But I've asked people this question

so i i've spent some time on some military bases i have family and the answer that i said if you were ordered to shoot you know like some guy in a street corner american citizen would you do it they were like probably like the the assumption that people are making when you you think the soldier would say no is that the person is innocent but the assumption the soldier is making is i trust my chain of command and my commanding officer they're not telling me to randomly kill an innocent person we're trying you know if they say stop that person take them out it could be a person with a weapon a bomb a murderer yeah i i think that i think that's probably true for an individual moment but like a sustained operation like if you told a platoon like you know i'm

thinking back to when i was a platoon leader if i told my platoon, like, you know, I'm thinking back to when I was a platoon leader. If I told my platoon, hey, we're going to go, you know, storm Greenville and start killing people. Like, I am very sure they would not listen to me. Right. I mean, Vietnam was crazy. I'm very sure of that. So, you know, I think give people give the military some credit i do not think that in general terms the military wants to take any action against against the country unless it is like a true crisis what was the university that had the national guard shoot up the chuken state what about kent state yeah that's conflicting history

on that yeah yeah so i mean you know kent state you had national guard members that are that know, at the time, the National Guard then was not the National Guard now where there was like real training. That hadn't been in, you know, any kind of aggressive situation before. And they had people throwing rocks at them and it was an aggressive, you know, they. You think that can't happen now, though? Of course, anything can happen. Like, I mean, people are, we people are, we're fancy monkeys, right? So, like, you know, I mean, you know, if you're not trained and you're afraid, you're going to make bad decisions. And so, like, you know, everything that you talk, Tim Kennedy always talks about training.

You know, like, if you are used to being in crisis if you're used to you know yeah but the military chain of command is a lot smarter i mean they have people literally on their computers dropping bombs on weddings on american teenagers and american soldiers are doing it without you know without any problems it happened you're you're talking about drone strikes you're talking about overseas drone strikes yeah yeah i mean so so that's a whole other moral debate that we can get over i'm talking about in the united states you know asking like an infantry platoon to go like shoot up a town like it's not gonna happen like what if they say we got a bunch of maga extremists they're far right they've been plotting an attack i think if somebody's plotting an attack that's different

but how is the soldier going to know that they are? Yeah. Their chain of command will say it's happening and they'll say, we'll stop that. And it could be some dude playing GTA in his living room. I, you know, as as a former military officer, I have a lot more confidence, you know, not only in the officer corps, but explicitly in the non-commissioned officer corps. But this is no disrespect to to the soldiers it's uh it's it's a statement of the the impossibilities if you have a commanding

officer says look we've got a group of guys who've been plotting some kind of terror attack on a bridge we're going to go stop them then they show they show up in their vehicles and sure enough here's the group as described their maga hats on armed they're not going to be like i don't trust my ceo they're like he's an armed group no that's true and these guys could be like doing a veterans memorial and have no idea but some power some person wants to get rid of them that's what i mean the chain of command is not going to say hey kill your neighbor kill your brother they're far more sophisticated when they have an operation that they need to carry out look at at the collateral. One last point.

The collateral murder video that was released by WikiLeaks. They were celebrating the murder of Reuters journalists. But I've got to come back after you're done. Of course. I just have to. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. There is no...

If you served in the military, you realize how hard it would be to do some of these things that you're that you're describing like where where you're gonna get waco all of these guys well that's a different situation right where you're gonna get all of these guys to be in on some kind of a conspiracy they won't be in on it so i was uh there was when remember that failed coup attempt in turkey yep i'm sure the details have changed by now so fact fact check the the change details but what was being reported at the time a bunch of soldiers drove onto the bosphorus bridge which controls entry into the black sea then all of a sudden we started seeing shooting from helicopters and the media reported

that it was a coup attempt. Those soldiers on the bridge, it was reported, had no idea what was going on. But civilians came, grabbed them and beat them and dragged them through the streets. I think many of them were killed. What apparently happened, and this was a report at the time, so it may not be true. They may have

updated the story, but what I was told was not what I was told, but was actually on Twitter and going through the news, was that a bunch of privates, low-ranking guys, were told, we need to do a security exercise on this bridge because there's a risk of a terror attack. And they went, sounds good to us. And then they got a bunch of soldiers on the bridge. And then the media came out and said, they're staging a coup. Look, they're doing it now. Got it.

So everyone ran up and started attacking them. So if they came down and said, we got another Whitmer style plot and the local enforcement is unable to handle it. They're calling in the National Guard, their insurrection act. Here's a picture of the guys. They need to be detained by any means necessary because they could have bombs on them these guys aren't going to be like i don't believe you they're going to be like oh no no of course not they're going to be like of course i trust the intel yeah but then but then you could have a group of guys who are just basically like marching around demanding a petition but they're there armed legally so these guys roll up and they see

a bunch of dudes and they jump out and they're like, don't move, put your weapons down. And then these guys are like, what's happening? They get rounded up, brought to a camp. Those privates, those lower ranking guys aren't in on anything. They're doing what they believe to be true and correct because they trust their chain of command. But the chain of command could be corrupt. Sure.

It might not even be their immediate CEO. It could go up way high to like some lunatic like Millie or something just like in waco they said oh they're shooting at us we got to shoot him back so i know children are burned i know i'm going to make more enemies but i have to i have to stick up for millie i mean i like i'll tell you right now i don't know that anybody other than than uh senator tillis leaned forward more uh to help with the extraction of the folks in Afghanistan. You know, it's it's important. I can respect it. It's important to remember that, you know, one, Milley is not the president. He serves at the the benefit of the president.

And two, he is not a commander you know he he is in a purely advisory role um you know so distracted by the cat no no it's no problem like you know i know for a fact that he was not you know he he did not support the decisions that that were made around the extraction of afghanistan and so like hey listen if you want to criticize them for other things i mean like you know there's certainly you know as with all people there's good and bad but i will tell you that like he gets a lot of heat but he was one of the only people fighting for the afghan people during the extraction we'll grab one more here okay uh how do i pronounce this okami hor, Nick is 100% correct about localizing your efforts.

Furthermore, people like this tend to be more involved in their local elections, school boards, etc. Efforts should be placed locally and over time it will grow. I definitely agree. Vote locally. Focus on your schools.

Focus on your neighbors. Meet your neighbors. Talk to your neighbors. Organize with your neighbors. And really, if everybody at the grassroots worked towards their community, then we'd have one big, beautiful community up top. Alright.

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My website is LukeUncensored.com. I have my own members area, hundreds of videos from 2012 masterclasses, forum, exclusive merchandise, you name it, all on LukeUncensored.com. I have my own members area. Hundreds of videos from 2012, masterclasses, forum, exclusive merchandise, you name it, all on LukeUncensored.com. Thank you so much for coming on. We didn't agree with some stuff, but that's okay.

Thank you for at least having a conversation. And I think the conversation is definitely worth having and different perspective and viewpoints are always welcome. Thank you for expressing those and being yourself.

And Ian, is there getting taxoplasmosis as we speak? Yeah, can you see in the shot? Can we get a wide shot of this fine feline? I can't widen that one, sorry. You can only see him a little bit. He's drinking Ian's water. And for some reason, he only will drink Ian's water.

The powers of our water combined. That's strange. There he is. What's up, everybody? Take care of yourself tonight. Make something cool this weekend. Yeah, this is great advice. Thank you guys all very much for tuning in

for our conversation with Nick. It's Friday. I hope you all are chilling. You guys can follow me on Twitter and Minds.com at Sour Patch Lids as well as Sour Patch Lids.me We're going to go hang out, chill, have a good time, and I hope you all enjoy your weekend. Thanks for hanging out. We'll have clips up throughout the weekend on this channel, and then we'll see you all once again

on Monday. Bye, guys.