Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #627 Ukraine Files To Join NATO Which Would Formally Start WW3 w/Will Chamberlain

Episode Date: October 1, 2022

Tim, Ian, Luke, & Lydia join Will Chamberlain to discuss Ukraine submitting a request to join NATO, Putin's unhinged speech saying that the west is satanic, Poland passing out anti-radiation meds to i...ts citizens, the stock market's performance under Joe Biden, Elon Musk's leaked text messages, & Trevor Noah announcing he is stepping down from The Daily Show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh, you know, Vladimir Putin's talking about nukes or whatever. The other day we were like, oh man, you know, World War III, because this NATO thing, you know, NATO's basically like, somebody sabotaged something, and if you come for us, we will retaliate with collective force. And we're like, what does that mean? But it does sound like we're, you know, we're walking into what I would consider to be like World War III territory. And then today, Vladimir Putin announces he's annexing four regions, I suppose, of Ukraine. And then Vladimir, Volodymyr, sorry, Volodymyr
Starting point is 00:00:30 Zelensky, formally files to join NATO. And if that actually happens, it is World War III. This would mean that NATO enters in, would admit Ukraine into the military alliance, fully understanding that they are currently at war. But of course they do. NATO is basically funding the entire operation. So why would NATO say no to Ukraine? Hey, we all knew what was going on. Let's just make it official. How about that? So we'll talk about that. Plus a bunch of other stories, text messages from Elon Musk released. Oh, this one's going to be funny. Elon may have to buy Twitter, so that'll get interesting. Before we get started, head over to timcast.com. Become
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Starting point is 00:01:51 and this right before the midterms. So if you think what we talk about and the news that we report on is important, then be the notification and share this video on any social media platform you got. Joining us today to talk about this and so much more is our good friend, Will Chamberlain. Good to be here. Senior Counsel at the Internet Accountability Project and the Article 3 Project. And looking forward
Starting point is 00:02:11 to talking about, well I guess not looking forward to talking about, we're facing World War 3. I'm a big fan of Dilbert. Very happy to have him here with us here. I forgot about that. I forgot about that. I forgot about that. That's right.
Starting point is 00:02:26 That was your old nickname. And guys, okay. I promise. I promise. It's over. Or is it? No, no, no more. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:02:38 No more goofs. I promise. I'm just kidding. I just wanted to see how you guys would react. I had a lot of things to get off my chest this week. So I thank you so much for being patiently with me as we had this burden lifted away from all of us. And, okay, we're going to be serious. And this is why I'm wearing a very serious shirt that says,
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Starting point is 00:03:13 I did my part. I'm doing my part to preserve world peace by learning the Cyrillic alphabet last night. I believe I have it memorized, so I'm going to recite it really quick. It's A, B, V, G, D, Y, O, J, Z, I, I, Krakaya k l m n o p r s t o f uh k c okay we got it
Starting point is 00:03:36 33 letters thank you impressive i was also too you didn't cheat. No, I didn't. I haven't memorized. I did it. I learned letter by letter last night on the internet, and then I was memorizing, and I just kept repeating it. I repeated it like 15 times. The way to do it is you do as many as you can until you mess one up, then you start over, and you do that until you can get it in one playthrough, and then you repeat the
Starting point is 00:04:00 playthrough eight or more times, and after that, you'll have it memorized. A lot of people don't know this, but Luke only reads cyrillic yeah his computer it translates all art it's all english but it's just it's all scribbles full disclaimer there are two silent letters that don't make a sound it's a soft accent and a hard this are you saying tim cast the irl has been infiltrated by the russians no he's polish oh oh right that's right sorry you forget infiltrated by the polls and the great thing about Cyrillic. Yeah, they're NATO, so we're good. Cyrillic is it's phonetic.
Starting point is 00:04:30 So if you see the letters on a map, on a screen, you can just pronounce them each phonetically. There's no like O-I-S going wah or anything. There's nothing like that in Russian. Oh, yeah. No, English is bizarre. Yeah, it's very easy to read once you know what the letters are. Have fun with it. Well, we are all preparing for World War III differently.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I'm just here pushing buttons in the corner, and I'm excited to hear what we have to talk about. I just want to bring something up before we start the show. So, we've got big news. This New Year's, we have acquired something called the North End Domination of Times Square, which is, there's two towers. There's the Ball Drop Tower and the North Tower. On the North Tower is a series of ads two of them i think belong to but like overtly belong to like coke or something you can't get them we bought all the other ones so on new year's eve and we don't we don't have 100
Starting point is 00:05:16 control of it we get i think we're getting 10 but this means on new year's eve with everybody watching all around the world and c standing there, you are going to see Timcast on the entirety of the tower, left, right, top, bottom, sides. And I'm trying to figure out exactly what it should say, but it should say something good. Something very good. And along with this,
Starting point is 00:05:38 we are also cordially invited to New York's official Times Square VIP elite party where the politicians are going to be and we're bringing Luke. I'm excited. You can do this. I'm excited to mingle with the Illuminati. That would be so good.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Giuliano will be there and you'll be like, you know what happened. So this is, it's going to be on during the New Year celebration. And, you know, the whole point of doing it i guess is i we have we have a story today we'll maybe talk about trevor noah quitting and i'm just looking at the ratings collapse of all these channels the rise of independent media seeing what the daily wire has been pulling off and what what we are able to accomplish and you know there's a lot of people who have the means
Starting point is 00:06:21 but they don't do this kind of stuff but i I'm all about it. I'm 100% culture warrior, baby. So we are going to have, I think it's five different billboards all at once on the whole tower. And we've got to figure out exactly what we want to say, but it's going to say something fun. There are restrictions, but it can say something cool like you are not the elite anymore. Something like that. Watch Tim Kast IRL or whatever. It's just the whole thing is we are we are taking over the cultural spaces we are we are pushing them out we are taking the spaces they
Starting point is 00:06:49 have seated and then we are going to be standing there in the party with new york politicians and you know corporate elites i i i was i was kind of shocked when they when i talked to the company about this and they said yeah you know we'll get you in the party and i'm like are you sure and they're like yeah and i'm like okay i'm like because it's not like we're gonna act a fool or anything but but it's it's gonna be really interesting to say the least so i just wanted to i just wanted to say that and i wanted to say thank you to everybody who supports the show we weren't sure exactly if we wanted to do this because i was like does it really matter that we are going to have this massive portion of times square on new year's and i talked to a few people and the answer was kind of like a yeah probably because that's a
Starting point is 00:07:29 that's a that's a big statement to make especially when they're constantly smearing us and lying about us in the media just to just to assert ourselves above them oh yeah and then have it be on every tv screen when time square is shown all around the world for the countdown it's good do something like just seriously inspirational because then no one can complain and if they do they look like a fool i don't know i was kind of you know do we want to have a chip on our shoulder and insult the establishment or do we want to just brag and be like we're here baby yeah pump up the kids man give them something to live for that's a good point or just send a message that makes them think and breaks the conditioning that would be powerful that's why you're gone yeah typically it's been um me
Starting point is 00:08:06 luke ian and michael malice on the uh on the ads that we've done times square i'm thinking maybe we go with the same thing that'd be cool but we'll see we'll see what we have let's read the news let's jump into the story from the guardian ukraine applies for nato membership after russia annexes territory lodomir zelensky dismisses moscow ceremony as a farce and rules out negotiations with Putin. So there you go. There there he is. He signed the paperwork. I thought it was funny because, like, I don't know what the paperwork says.
Starting point is 00:08:32 For all I know, it could be like an order form for Giordano's or something. But he signed it and we watched him do it. And he said it was to join NATO. If Ukraine were admitted into NATO right now, we would formally be in World War Three. Correct. Because of War III. Correct. Because of Article 5. Yes. What is the Article 5?
Starting point is 00:08:48 Is that you've got to defend the NATO allies? Yeah, common defense. But if they're already at war, then they wouldn't trigger Article 5, as far as I'm concerned. I don't know, actually. But I'm pretty sure that, effectively, that's saying we're at war and that Russia is now at war with the NATO alliance. Yeah, it's a mutual alliance pact. So if one member of NATO gets attacked, all of NATO has to come in and protect that one particular country that got attacked.
Starting point is 00:09:09 But I think the way... Sorry, go ahead. I think Pax's work is if you're not in NATO when you get attacked, you can't be like, oops, hey guys, can I join NATO in retrospect? No, you weren't in NATO. Well, people aren't going to let them in. That's the way this whole conundrum gets solved, is that NATO is not going to admit Ukraine right now.
Starting point is 00:09:25 You know, I lean towards that because it seems absurd for, like, you need one NATO member state to be like, nah, nah, nah, nah. Yeah. But considering the fact that NATO is basically already involved. I mean, it's, you know, it's one thing to be already involved. It's another thing to be formally at war. My understanding, correct me if I'm wrong, is doesn't Article 5 actually say that the attacked nation gets to dictate the terms of the assistance? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Let's pull up Article 5 of NATO. I think, and I could be wrong, I thought it was something like, you know, if like France is attacked, then France says, okay, we need help and you guys are going to supply us with this. This is how World War I got started with a bunch of defensive packs.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Well, this is... We want to avoid that. I was just going to say that. I was going to say historians reading our current history 100 years from now are going to be like, these idiots didn't figure out from the First World War that they shouldn't have huge alliances and packs and protecting each other. There was a Second World War and a Third World War. And of course, there's that famous Einstein quote about World War III being fought with weapons that are unknown, but World War IV and V being fought with sticks and stones. I'm butchering the quote here, but you get the gist of what I'm saying here.
Starting point is 00:10:35 And this is just an atrocious situation that is extremely dangerous for everyone, and it's ridiculous. You said World War V? World War IV, World War V, yeah. It was like i know not uh i'll pull it up just because i know not uh what weapons world world world war three would be fought with but i know that world war four will be fought with sticks and stones yes that's a good quote and then he goes on to say that world war five is going to be lit yeah i was like oh wow that's a great it's a really terrible situation i mean it's first off it's it's terrible that we have russia annexing like parts of ukraine and saying well this is
Starting point is 00:11:09 now russia because that's that that puts putin in a place where he doesn't have like an easy way to back down i mean oh that's impossible to back right yeah right he can't back down he can't i mean he can't but neither neither can any other russian leader if someone were to take over after him right kind of like saying this is what what I wanted, now I've got it, so leave me alone. A little bit, but he's saying that Ukrainian territory is now Russian territory, and so it kind of eliminates the possibility of some sort of territorial compromise
Starting point is 00:11:37 because ultimately you want Russia, you want a negotiated agreement here. I think we all think that's best because we don't want world nuclear war if putin is uh dying like they say he is and someone else comes in that's it what do you do then cede your newly annexed territory back to ukraine you don't liberate it it's also important to note here that the person that is uh most most likely to take over for putin is more of a war hawk than he is we're also in a place where russia hasn't officially declared war even though we are in a in a in a war obviously he's still calling it a limited military operation but i i do think that that this setup could be the larger setup for the use of nuclear weapons,
Starting point is 00:12:25 smaller tactical nuclear weapons, but also this could be, with his annexation of four new territories and regions today, an excuse to call out for a full all-out war, and then he's going to attack the infrastructure, he's going to get on the energy grid, and then truly we will see a very large escalation. And Will, I agree with you, but I disagree with you when you said NATO's gonna say no
Starting point is 00:12:50 because with how crazy this situation has been already, with how far it has been escalating, who knows if NATO says the situation got even crazier, he used nukes, let's just accept Ukraine right now and just make it official. I see that as a small possibility, but right now, unlikely, but who knows how far we're going to go.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I think that in the world where Putin actually did use tactical nuclear weapons, I don't know what NATO would do. And I mean, that's a terrifying world. I don't think they retaliate. Yeah. There's a really funny quote that I read.
Starting point is 00:13:23 I can't remember who it was from, but they said if russia were to nuke a nato member state nato would not respond with a nuclear strike against russia they said you would have to the president would have to be a madman to sacrifice boston for uh what was it uh what's the what's the polish city posnan posnan posnan He said you'd have to be a madman to sacrifice Boston for Poznan. Well, you know, there's a lot of things that we also have to understand here, especially when it comes to our chain of command, which is in the hands of some very crazy people and incompetent people and people who, of course, don't have their brains working correctly as well. So all the possibilities are on the table here. And this is why the situation is so dangerous.
Starting point is 00:14:08 And it's not just Joe Biden at the helm here. It's individuals like Victoria Nuland, who, of course, have an agenda to push this conflict to the furthest extent that she could possibly see it. The United States is answering today by announcing $12.3 billion additionally to Ukraine as a part of a U.S. government shutdown bill. Biden also just announced new sanctions. Poland is handing out radiation pills. This is crazy, as of course, there's a major battle now happening in Lyman, a major key city that's going to decide this conflict in a very major way within the next coming days and and also there's battles around a ukrainian power plant things are are absolutely absurd and i think they reached a point where i think there's no going back from it sadly i wish there was
Starting point is 00:14:55 but this to me is is is dangerous and extremely extremely horrible for everyone involved here so what have you guys done to prepare for a nuclear war learn cyrillic my man that's one way to start now i see ian's not telling you he's saying it's for world peace but the reality is he thinks russia's gonna win so he's getting ready i want to avoid a conflict at all no no when we're when we're in the gulags the actual russian ones he's gonna be the guy making sure we get food by talking it's like the man in high castle but in reverse right like basically like the russians have taken over the united states and ian's found a position among the the occupying government i learned that the best way to avoid death and destruction and chaos is diplomacy so i'm rolling with that one um what
Starting point is 00:15:34 about what about you will have you built your underground bunker yet no no i haven't done that i'm still living in arlington which seems unwise that's like the worst place to be. It's like ground zero. I don't even think the world leaders would be there. No, I think they'll retire to some bunker in Oklahoma. I don't see World War III here. What were you going to say? I do have a friend with a nuclear bunker. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Yeah, nuclear. Just like Bush said it. I just paid him a visit a couple weeks ago so he says come on over I would like to visit just for fun that'd be cool
Starting point is 00:16:09 yeah if you guys want to come I'm looking at the annex shout out to Joe B. Weeks he's awesome nice I'm looking at what actually got annexed
Starting point is 00:16:15 it's for what is it called Oblast Lugansk Donetsk Zaporizhia I don't know how you pronounce it Zaporizhia
Starting point is 00:16:21 Zaporizhia Kherson Kherson Kherson yeah annexed Crimea in 2014 but what it does is it takes highway M14 I don't know how you pronounce it. Zaporizhia. Zaporizhia. Kherson. Kherson. Kherson. Yeah, and it's Crimea in 2014. But what it does is it takes Highway M14, which is the east-west highway from Russia, and it goes east, or it goes west, rather, to, it also took Highway East 105 and East 97 that go north-south.
Starting point is 00:16:38 So he took the east-west highway that connects to these two north-south highways that take you down into Crimea. They want a trade post in Sevastopol. That's the whole point, is to be able to move military and trade stuff into the Mediterranean. At this point, I don't understand why they're not in NATO with us and one of our best trade allies. They have so much resources. They're a federation like the United States. It's a federated group of states. Well, strategically, geopolitically, China is also emerging as a power that is threatening American hegemony. And if you were calling American foreign policy, I think it would be in the best interest to have good relations with either of those countries in order to make sure that they don't come together. I think we've done the opposite of that. And I think we're creating a situation that truly is highlighting a West versus East
Starting point is 00:17:25 situation, which is not beneficial to anyone. It has to be on purpose. I'm in many circumstances well beyond believing in coincidence. And considering what Joe Biden's, how he's been very favorable or deferential to China, this greatly benefits China. The US and Russia fighting. Some have actually argued, I think we were talking're talking about the other day that china may have been the one who sabotaged nordstrom to force russia and nato to fight so that they could then make a move on i could see that i could see i mean i could see a third you know third parties who wanted to just inflame things further yeah and and that that that makes sense to me it makes more sense to me than russia doing it which just is completely ridiculous but but that's they're saying they're saying
Starting point is 00:18:04 there are a bunch of articles that it was like people are pushing conspiracy theories that the west destroyed the north street pipeline and they're all citing anonymous government sources saying a hundred percent it was russia a hundred percent i'm like where's the evidence where's the proof and and the person even saying this is not putting their name behind this a part of the u.s government intelligence agencies that of course everyone's naming as a source who's the source i i tweeted i said so let me get this straight the official narrative is that russia blew their own pipeline and not say their enemies who they're currently at war with like that's just nuts if i see two guys and they're screaming at each other and they're like you know if i ever see i'm gonna knock you out and then the guy is found knocked
Starting point is 00:18:44 out outside of the other dude's house i'm not gonna be like he must have hit himself that's yeah right i mean biden said he would he said it he's like oh yeah we'll make nordstrom go away and then it went away he was like oh other guy did that not me what what i love the media it's just it's you know maybe this is where it's become so laughably absurd that people just can't accept it anymore yeah dav. David Frum had a thing. He had a tweets thread where he was talking about how he wrote an article called Unpatriotic Conservatives back in 2003 about people who opposed Iraq, you know, who were correct about that. Absolutely. And now he's like, yeah, the unpatriotic conservatives are back.
Starting point is 00:19:18 My article aged really well. And it's the people who are, you know, doubting the U.S. Intelligence Services account that Russia blew up its own pipeline. Yeah, imagine the hubris. Right. Just the level of, one, if you question our intelligence agencies, which have been routinely wrong and also lied to Americans routinely, then you are not patriotic. I mean, it's the number of different logical leaps you have to take to get to David Frum's reasoning. I would even push back.
Starting point is 00:19:46 I wouldn't say they were wrong. I think they were deliberately lying. I think they had an agenda. They had profits that they wanted to get. They had people that they needed to please. And I think they deliberately said, yeah, they got WMDs when they knew they didn't. As, of course, the United States government also had the receipts to the chemical weapons that they were selling to Iraq when Iraq was fighting with Iran. And what did the war in Iraq do?
Starting point is 00:20:06 Well, it created ISIS. It allowed Iran to have a larger sphere of influence in the entire Middle East. It allowed, of course, the destruction and the death of what people estimate to be over a million people. Why did we do this? WMDs? Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I'm reading a book about the CIA right now, which is actually very good. And the overall lesson of this book so far is that the CIA has a reputation for like secrecy and competence, but it's actually just absurdly stupid and has made huge mistakes. I think, you know, early in the Cold War, what they did there, their whole plan was like, we're going to create these little partisan armies and all the communist states. And they just dropped it, dropped partisans you know and refugees they just dropped them in or like go infiltrate the government and they all died all the agents they just all died like all of them everywhere like in the korean war they dropped a bunch of koreans into north korea all of them captured killed everyone just one comment really quickly if i was the cia i would be also pretending to be really stupid in order to cover for all my
Starting point is 00:21:03 illegal actions and horrible crap that I did. Right, right, right. Well, that may be, but we all know the real reason behind this conflict. From the New York Intelligencer, Putin decries US Satanism in bizarre speech annexing parts of Ukraine. Did you guys see this?
Starting point is 00:21:19 Putin said, it was kind of crazy. He said that the West was Satanic and he said that they're doing gender experiments on children or something to that effect. He gave a 37-minute speech in the middle of Moscow, huge crowds, and he said that the West is, quote, sheer satanism, and it's turning away from moral norms and religious values while offering children sex change operations.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Is he wrong? He's not wrong, but he's not an angel himself. I know. He brought up a good point. Let's be honest. And I think he's not wrong in some of these instances. But again, that doesn't make him the good guy here. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:04 I think it reminds me of that. i think something jack told me about rt or how he described rt is like rt tells the truth about us and lies about russia whereas our media lies about lies about us and might tell the truth about russia right right so it's like it's like you have to you listen to russia talk about our problems you're like yeah that's actually a fairly accurate description of how our government is behaving. You got to watch RT if you want to learn about what's going on with protests and activism. This is the funny thing about how they destroyed the lives of all these RT reporters and personalities. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Back when was this? It was like a couple years ago. I think it was. That's so long ago. 2017 or something is when they started hammering RT. 2018 maybe? No, it was recently. Like Lee Camp, for instance know we've known him for a long time and like he's not a russian agent he's like a regular american dude and he's like left-leaning but they they they
Starting point is 00:22:55 banned his podcast which was unrelated to rt simply because he worked for rt chris hedges too another very famous journalist again on the, also banned and labeled Russian propaganda. Abby Martin got it hard. Well, didn't Larry King work for RT as well? He did, yep. So here's what they do. So did Jesse Ventura. RT looks for people who have opinions that are bad for the West.
Starting point is 00:23:18 They hire them and let them do their thing, basically funding these kinds of narratives. I've recently been coming really disliking this East-West narrative. Like it's the line of demarcation runs through London. Are you kidding me? Like that's not British empire crap. And now they want to segment us into one area and say that Russia and China, dude, the West is China.
Starting point is 00:23:38 China is West of me right now. That's the West. I'm not going to play this British centric game anymore. That was basically the idea, right? Yeah, London. Yeah, they wanted to take control of the narrative of who's where on Earth and say that they're in the middle. It's crazy. Well, they're the ones who have the zero.
Starting point is 00:23:54 The king with his freaking Bank of International Settlements in Switzerland. Look at that, man. And English is spoken basically everywhere. You go to Japan and there's like the street signs and the highways are in English and Japanese. Colonists, man. They tried to colonize China just like they did to India. They tried with the opium wars
Starting point is 00:24:09 and they failed and that's a big part of why there's so much aggression. Putin actually said it is neocolonialism and he said, this is great, he said the West is racist
Starting point is 00:24:18 for spreading Russophobia. I'm like, okay, I don't know what you're trying to say. Like, what part of the US is Satanist? Is it the woke stuff? Because that's what you're saying. Like,
Starting point is 00:24:28 he plays a similar game, right? Yeah. I don't care which government some people, someone super chat us the other day saying like, no, no, Putin's fighting evil. And I'm like, no, Putin launched an aggressive war and invaded his neighbor. Right. That's bad. And I think
Starting point is 00:24:43 wrong. And it's it kickstarted all of this, right of it's not a defensive war you're right it is a war of aggression but it's a war of aggression where your enemy has rockets right on the border of the country next to you so like who's the aggressor right it's just it's just i mean two wrongs don't make a right this isn't i mean i don't know i'm sorry like there i i've there are situations where in a seemingly aggressive war is actually someone responding to acts of war by the other side. I think the classic example of that is the Six Days War where Israel was, you know, Egypt put in place a naval blockade of the Red Sea and prevented Israel from accessing and shipping anything out of its southern port. And so if it wanted to ship anything to Asia, it'd go all the way around Africa. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:21 And that's clearly like active war violence. And so even though Israel struck first in terms of like actually military assets striking other military forces, I think it's pretty clear that that was not an aggressive war in the sense of they were the first wronged party in terms of like an active war against themselves. This conflict goes back and forth for many decades now. And you could point, hey, Russia did this.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Hey, NATO did this hey nato did this and and you can make a legitimate arguments that are very convincing by by both sides to me both of them are being idiots people shouldn't be dying for governments politicians should be fighting their own wars wars and shouldn't be sending innocent people to do it but but you made a very very very good point there uh talking about the six-Day War being brought on by of course the stopping of trade and trade routes and and denying countries resources it is what usually sparks wars so this is why the the bursting of this pipeline is so important because it could be that major galvanizing event that starts all of this it's also why turning Ukraine against Russia in 2014 with that revolution,
Starting point is 00:26:25 whether or not the CIA was involved or not, I hear they were, I don't know. But that is, you could argue that that's kind of an act, they cut off their access to the Black Sea. Like that's at least a Sevastopol. Yeah, no, that was, I mean, that was a huge screw up. And I think, I mean, the US diplomacy there was appalling. I mean, there's no,
Starting point is 00:26:43 we had no business overturning that government. Yeah, John McCain was there. Okay, it goes back. It goes back before the Syria, for instance. Russia's got a base in Tartus. The U.S. is basically aligned against the Assad regime, who is aligned with Russia. And every effort we made
Starting point is 00:26:59 hurt Russia's interests in Tartus. So, of course, you can go back in time as long as you want to go back in time, you will always find something. Absolutely. Absolute job. And, you know, 2014, John McCain was there. The CIA was there.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Victoria Nuland was there. She was, again, pushing for a lot of the protests there. And she did have an impact. And this is the result of this that we're seeing here. And I think Putin was baited into a conflict. And as soon as he sent troops there, this has escalated to a very severe level. Who do you point to for responsibility? I think all of them are responsible.
Starting point is 00:27:37 I think all of them are being stupid. And I think all of them need to stop immediately before they jeopardize the human civilization. Yeah, the liberal economic order does not need to patrol russia anymore it's they all know that the new world order is coming that george bush senior was talking about it in the late 80s like they're ready for it now we need to transition to a new world order where we're not at war with russia there could be our most potential greatest ally it's really yeah no one wins wit wars politicians bankers and and multinational corporations win wit wars but no one else wins it's ideology and it's a question of
Starting point is 00:28:10 i would say perhaps it's a bit reductive but not having access to classified documents vladimir putin does not want to be subservient to nato the un to the world economic forum that doesn't mean he's a good guy it means he he's standing there being like, I ain't doing it. And they're like, there's more of us than you and we're stronger. And he's like, don't care. Try me. So there's no, he's going to be our greatest ally. If a communist authoritarian came up to you, Ian, and said, work with me to throw people in a gulag, would you do it?
Starting point is 00:28:39 Not no. I would say no. So I'm not saying that's what is literally happening between the two powers. I'm saying there is a line where you would be like, I will never work with you. We will not be allies because the ideologies are just too disparate. Yeah, it would be. I don't want to adhere to the World Economic Forum's laws and sanctions and give corporations the ability to sue American taxpayers if we don't buy their products. Like that's what the trade, the TPP, Trans-Pacific Partnership wanted with their investor state
Starting point is 00:29:03 dispute settlement clause that got Trump, thank God, overturned. i don't want that stuff either i don't think putin wants that crap i agree i think so so we need to build something better but we're not going to do it if we're at war but see russia is doing this is doing something similar when they're trying to build up the russian trade federation they there's been i guess maybe it's a bit hyperbolic to say but you know putin just said today i guess it's maybe i don't know what the time zone is, that the fall of the Soviet Union was terrible and the leaders left all the people to just fend for themselves. He has consistently expressed dismay at the fall of the Soviet Union. And it looks like all of his actions that he's been doing in terms of building up this federation, he wanted Ukraine to join the Russian Trade Federation. He wants to build what the West is also doing. So it's just like, pick your poison. I happen to think this. Ladies and gentlemen,
Starting point is 00:29:49 you want the U.S. to win. More importantly, we need to win politically so we can stop the war. But if a war is going to happen, you want the U.S. to win for one simple reason. You live in it. And as much as you might really hate Joe Biden, despise his politics, because I certainly don't like the guy, at least you can recognize you share one thing in common. You share a place like you share the United States. And so that means as much as Biden might be selling us out and being corrupt, he doesn't want to lose his property value. So even if that means on a scale of one to 100, with 100 being like shared values and one being like barely any, you have one. With Putin, you don't have any. Putin, some people are posting things like oh but he opposes satanism and the double what i kind of
Starting point is 00:30:30 no we're not you don't want putin to win no putin is is a different kind of the same bad right of a similar bad he's another rock in a hard place yeah he's another politician who's been in power for how long 22 years many decades Who's looking out for himself and looking out for his country and his interests. And a counter argument I would make is that no one's going to win this war. If there's a war, no one's winning this one. I'm going to win. You know why? Because I got chickens.
Starting point is 00:30:55 I read somewhere something pretty insightful, which was that we tend to be very annoyed with the Biden and the Democrats' hypocrisy when it comes to this stuff. And it's very frustrating. And one thing about Putin is he's not really a hypocrite. He's just sort of will to power, you know, straightforward, like, yes, actually, I just want to conquer your country. And I'm going to do that now, rather than sort of like, you know, mixing messages, machinations, machinations. And so like, there's a tendency for us being super frustrated with how ridiculous the Democrats rationalizations can be that we're just like, oh, breath of fresh air.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Somebody who just says what he wants. But you have to realize like, no, no, no, no. That's actually, you know, that's still that's very, very evil and wrong. Right. Like to have this will to power style of Putin and just conquer trying to conquer your neighbors. Well, that's what almost every politician is. Essentially, if you kind of go down to the bare minimum of it. And Putin did, you know, does release a lot of, you know, disinformation, a lot of propaganda.
Starting point is 00:31:51 He does like to confuse people. He does, you know, use a lot of different tactics that the West doesn't usually deploy. And I remember seeing, I forgot which documentary this was, but it was describing his strategy of financing his opponents, of creating confusion, of creating a situation where you weren't able to fully understand the larger political ramifications of it. But while everyone is confused and debating, he gets all the power himself. I forgot the documentary that perfectly described this kind of larger psychological trick that politicians play on the people. I'm going to try to remember as much as I can.
Starting point is 00:32:30 That's one. Yeah, I mean, that's what politicians always do. How do you know a politician's lying? His mouth is moving. His mouth is moving, exactly. Wait, wait. Their mouth is moving. Politicians can't be ladies.
Starting point is 00:32:41 It. I don't like that. His mouth is moving. Yeah, politicians aren't people. I don't like that. His mouth is moving. Yeah, politicians aren't people. I don't like that Vladimir's been in power for 22 years. That really upsets me. Because I think the point of the Russian Federation was they were creating some sort of democratic republic. I don't know if they consider themselves a republic, if it's just a federation at this point, whatever that means.
Starting point is 00:32:56 But he stepped out and he was gone for a little while. And they said his lackey was running the show while he was behind the scenes. But then it's like he came back and at that time i was like well i think what he's doing is he's afraid that the liberal economic order the military war machine is going to take over the world and he wants to make sure that it doesn't happen on his watch and until he's comfortable that the united states is the good guys again he's going to be there protecting russia but i don't that doesn't justify a great wars of aggression i don't justify that stuff yeah but it and maybe it's still that is his methodology like if i let someone come into power they're going to be weaker
Starting point is 00:33:28 than me they're going to capitulate and i can't let that happen hyper normalization is the term that i was looking for that describes what i was just saying it was a part of a bbc documentary from 2016 and there's a small clip of it that is absolutely fascinating and explains what what putin kind of mastered but i think is also being practiced here in the west as well that i think a lot of people should understand this larger trickery these larger psychological tricks played on by politicians against the people uh hyper normalization is the word of the day that you should look up filmed by adam curtis i was gonna say uh look on the search engine look on the brave search engine since the 1970s given up on the brave search engine.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Since the 1970s, given up on complex real world and built a smaller fake world run by corporations and kept stable by politicians. That's the impetus of the 2016 BBC documentary Hypernormalization. And that runs parallel with the insurance agencies attempting to take over the world medically and control doctors' seven minutes that they get to spend with their patients instead of the old doctor-patient relationship. You got pharmaceutical companies and insurance agencies trying to run things. I just love how we have commercials where it's like, is florbastron right for you? Call your doctor. And I'm like, no. May cause death.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Like, why would I call my doctor and be like, I saw a random ad for a drug. I have no idea what it does, but should I take it? They looked happy on the commercial. He's like, I don't know. Yeah. and then they're friends with the insurance salesman rep and then they like the rep they sell the reps drug i think it was lunesta i think it was remember lunesta and i didn't know what it was i'm like there's a butterfly it's like floating around what's happening and i guess maybe i was too young i think rogaine was the first one rogaine they had rogaine commercials in like the 90s and they never said what it was in the commercials i was like what it's the only commercial i ever saw where they never said what
Starting point is 00:35:11 it was and they just show people smiling and i was like what is this it's like prozac it's like i'm assuming whatever it is just makes you happy yeah imagine if they well it is kind of funny that there's a lot of drugs that are basically prescription drugs derivatives and of methamphetamine salts or just outright opiates and so they're basically like we're going to make opium and heroin illegal but if you get a prescription of a different form of it we're going to put a commercial on and i don't think they actually do commercials for that stuff though but they certainly they crank it out through the pharmaceutical industry i don't know if we need american constitutionalism for the future. We could have a global organization where we don't use the American Constitution and it's much different. It terrifies me to think that a corporation would implement its function onto top-down governance.
Starting point is 00:35:55 And you'd have like, you know, World Economic Forum and Pfizer and Johnson and Johnson and, you know, Boeing running everyone's lives. That's like, I don't like that. That's why I like this decentralized kind of autonomy that we've got in the United States. I want to jump to this story we got from the Daily Mail. Poland starts handing out anti-radiation tablets as battle rages around Ukraine nuclear power plant. I don't think it's the nuclear power plant, but they do mention Putin's fresh nuke threat. So I believe this is potassium iodide.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Yep. Potassium iodide tablets. Okay. First as a PSA to everybody to explain what this is, it's basically iodine. What happens? You eat it. It goes into your thyroid. When your body absorbs as much as it can, it will reject the rest. If radioactive iodine is in the air or on the ground or all over the place and you're eating, your body will absorb it and put radioactive iodine in your thyroid, which then causes problems. This does not protect you from anything else. People seem to think that like, if there's a nuclear bomb that goes off, you take one of these and it protects you from the radiation, like it protects your thyroid from iodine. But
Starting point is 00:36:56 there's, I mean, I don't know exactly what kind of radioactive materials are going to be littered all over the place. But I do want to talk to everybody about the threat of nuclear war and what it really means. And I'll bring up a good story. Luke and I, we went to Fukushima. And they told us, we didn't take potassium iodide when we went, did we? I don't think so, no. But they gave us suits. Yep.
Starting point is 00:37:20 And the suits were just cloth suits. And I was kind of like, don't you have to have like some kind of special material? And they're like, no, no, no. What the suits do is when the dust and the particles land on you, when you leave, you take it all off. So it's not on you. And then you take a shower to wash it all off. And I was like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:37 I thought it was like for like radiation. And they were like alpha and beta particles. They stick to you. You then eat stuff. It gets in your system. But with Fukushima, there was MOX plutonium and there was iodine-131 or something like that. The MOX plutonium was a heavy metal lit on the ground. It sinks. It drops. The iodine kicks up. So you take one of these
Starting point is 00:37:57 pills, but then you pick something up off the ground and you can get some, you know, MOX plutonium or whatever it's called on you. That ain't doing anything for you. So in the event of nuclear war, the other thing to consider, not every nuclear bomb has a radioactive yield. That's my understanding is that's intentional. When a bomb goes off and it leaves radiation, like they design it to do that. And there are many nuclear bombs that actually don't.
Starting point is 00:38:17 They just do fireballs. So yeah. Our understanding of nuclear weapons is still primitive compared to the advancements that were made within what was it like 90 years 80 years since the last yeah 80 years so so what we know of the nuclear weapon 80 years ago is absolutely nothing compared to what's out there right now and the technology and the possibilities that they have putin and the russian government a lot of times talk about flooding all of the united kingdom with a radiation wave and using nuclear weapons underwater as a way to start a tsunami that is going to cover all of the United Kingdom.
Starting point is 00:38:54 This is what they talk about. They even made graphics. They even made a cartoon about this on Russian state television, which is just absolutely perplexing and insane. I got a question. Why would Russia not have rods from God? Why would they not have it? Why would the US not have that? For those not familiar,
Starting point is 00:39:11 it's a theoretical weapon where you put a series of tungsten rods in a satellite and it drops them in the force of gravity. It's like 100 times more powerful than a nuke of the same size or something. Yeah. Some ridiculous massive explosive yield. They might.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Who knows? I don't know. I'm not familiar enough with where that technology is. Here's my point. It's not so much about where the technology is. It's that no one even knew they were building nukes in the first place. Yeah. There was speculation about this big project that was going on.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Some thought that it could be a nuclear weapon. Some thought it was going to be a death ray. Some thought it was teleportation or time travel. People believed crazy things. And then Lone Beetle turned out to be this massive explosive device. The Manhattan project that was spearheaded and started at the Bohemian Grove
Starting point is 00:39:58 of all places where 100,000 people were working on it and only about two dozen knew exactly what they were working on. Right. I mean, that said, I don't know the the way i read have you read the making of the atomic bomb by richard rhodes no i have very very great book by the way when i was looking into the bohemian grove and then they were just bragging oh the the nuclear bomb was pretty much created here and i'm like kind of i mean the my understanding based on that book was that there were a series of experiments done and publicized in 1939, 1940 in Germany, of all places.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah. Where basically, I think they split the uranium atom. Yeah. So actually, I pulled the Wikipedia, Discovery of Nuclear Fission by German Chemists. Look at that, 1938. How right am I? Am I right? Am I right?
Starting point is 00:40:42 Am I right? And then Germany could have developed a nuclear weapon, but they kicked out their scientists because they had a religion that they didn't like. And all the scientists went to the United States and they started building it here in the United States. Literally, the Nazis' anti-Semitism is actually a pretty good
Starting point is 00:40:58 argument that maybe it's not exactly why they lost World War II, but it made their loss inevitable. I mean, if Hitler had the nuclear bomb before anybody else, they would be game over. It would be game over. And they had rockets. Yeah, they wanted to hit
Starting point is 00:41:12 They were working on saucers as well. Like the development of German technology in the early parts of that world war were absolutely just beyond belief. You want to continue with what you're saying that 1940? So basically, but like once this experiment happened and there were scientists around the world having seen this experiment, understood the implication was a nuclear bomb is possible. And so that's, you know, so Germany started working on it. We started working on it.
Starting point is 00:41:41 I think England, you know, other countries started working on it, too. So it wasn't when you like, I guess it wasn't a secret at that point it was sort of if you were in the scientific community it was like all the scientists started talking to the politicians of like we know this is possible you should really invest in this because you don't want the other guy to get this first because it's just how much energy was necessarily created from splitting the uranium atom it was was enough to make people realize that it could create a chain reaction a bomb and i would even argue you know germany lost world war ii but i would say the nazis didn't how so i mean you mean because weren't vernon brown came to us one a lot of them went to argentina to the russians and the americans scooped them up
Starting point is 00:42:19 right after the war and then had them work on on nasa had them work on the russian space agency what was that was that paperclip uh yeah that's one operation uh paperclip and uh the the the death of hitler is still being contested by many historians there was nobody as well so he could have been in argentina this whole time uh argentina gave them safe haven and look they did lose that doesn't mean that's not winning. Their influence escaped. I'm making a very nuanced kind of argument. I'm saying that the ideology was passed on through a lot of the top figures being saved through Operation Paperclip. I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't call Werner Von Braun like a top Nazi.
Starting point is 00:42:58 I mean, he was a member of the Nazi Party, but he was a rocket scientist. Right. Like in that he didn't. That was, you know, he was a rocket scientist in Germany. Not saying he wasn't a bad guy or a good guy. I'm just saying, like, he wasn't Goebbels, you know, some ideologist who's spreading it. And then you look at people like Eichmann,
Starting point is 00:43:14 you know, is the classic guy who went to Argentina. I mean, he had to be incognito for 20 years before the Israelis finally found him, kidnapped him, and tried him in Israel. Not to mention, there's a bunch of really crazy stories like the, what is it? Was it the Istal woman, I think it was called? I went to, this is an amazing story. I went to Bergen, Norway a while back.
Starting point is 00:43:34 And there's this legend they have where they found a woman dead up in the mountain just outside of town from smoke inhalation, they said. And it's been a long time since I've gone through the story. We interviewed a bunch of people in Bergen and there were like passports, outfits. And so one of the leading theories was that she was Mossad hunting down escaped Nazis
Starting point is 00:43:54 in various countries. And they were being summarily executed. So not escaping. But in this instance, this woman was killed by the person she was sent to assassinate. And so they found her body, didn't know who she was,
Starting point is 00:44:06 saw a bunch of aliases and passports, never figured it out. But people are like, they believe that Mossad went on for decades, probably even still now, are hunting these people down. There was a story out there long ago of like a guy who was like 90 something years old.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Was it like 98? Yeah, I heard of that. And he was like a Nazi guard and they found him. They arrested him, didn't they? Yeah, and they deported him. There was an Netflix movie about that, I think. It was like some... But here's what people don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Here's what people don't understand is that many of these people who did escape probably died within a year from assassinations. And it's not in the news. It's not going to be in the history books. A lot of prominent people are connected to that history, whether it's's Soros Arnold Schwarzenegger uh the Canadian um the minister lady I forgot her name right now uh but she also has ties to a lot of that darker kind of history but uh you know this is something that you know my people have kind of lived through being from Poland we hear about this all the time you know this is something that my family uh you know lost a a lot of its members to.
Starting point is 00:45:06 And it's still something that, you know, I think in hindsight should be talked about more, especially with the severe escalations we're seeing in Europe right now that many people believe is going to prompt another world war, which is just absolutely insane. Yeah, Nazism wasn't stopped. The German Third Reich was stopped, but Nazism wasn't. It was third reich was stopped but nazism wasn't it went to is in eastern ukraine it still is they call them the azov now the azov battalion it's like a neo-nazi group wasn't there a picture of a guy standing with zelensky that had like the black sun logo or something yep it is genuinely true that the zelensky government is way too friendly
Starting point is 00:45:41 with straight up like anti-semites yeah i mean that was they were roundly i mean they named one of their major streets after a guy named stepan bandera yeah who was involved in pogroms against the jewish community in advance of the germans coming in um you know and they're all these guys they're hailing is like Ukrainian heroes and Ukrainian nationalists. Well, those are the guys who like fought the Russians and sided with the Nazis. And usually we're doing the Nazis bidding before the Nazis showed up. Well, Ukraine is also in a tough position because that's some of the best fighters that they have. And the Ukrainian government is like, okay, let's stop talking about this because we need to fight a war and this is how they're kind of excusing it.
Starting point is 00:46:27 But there's a whole, I think, a battalion inside of the official Ukrainian military that was officially recognized that did have extreme far-right kind of ideas. And there's no denying that. It's something that, of course, the Russians kind of bring up all the time. But this is you
Starting point is 00:46:45 know a battalion and a lot of the stuff gets contested here but but you're not wrong in it's a yeah is the azov regiment uh formed from volunteers integrated into the national guard of ukraine at least this is what i've been told is azov the azov are the uh neo-nazis that's the symbol is like it's basically a swastika at an angle, not a complete swastika, but it's got, you know, I don't know if you put, yeah,
Starting point is 00:47:07 there it is. That blue symbol on the right. I don't know. This is what I hear. This is propaganda, but I can't imagine being in the United States and hearing propaganda that are supposed to, it's not merely propaganda like that.
Starting point is 00:47:19 There's, there's real truth to that. I mean, you can look into, you know, Jewish associations lighting up the ukrainian government for their actions in support of azov and a lot of their public resurrection of these uh world war ii figures who were anti-semitic another the problem with war is pushing countries
Starting point is 00:47:37 to war is that the worst i'm not saying that the azov are the worst but you violent extremists will rise up to fight because those might be your best fighters because they're violent extremists. That's what they do is they know how to fight. This weird like problem for Ukrainian nationalism in general, right? Because Ukraine doesn't have this long and deep history as an independent nation. So they're kind of have to reach for these figures of nationalist pride in Ukraine who have these very, very checkered pasts. I'd love to see Ukraine become a neutral territory in some way, like Switzerland. It's in a position where it should be.
Starting point is 00:48:07 It's like the cerebral cortex of Eurasia. It should have been a buffer state. That would have been much better for everybody, right? Much better for the West, for Ukraine. Or like a Hong Kong or like a Singapore. But Ukraine also has a lot of natural gas, and a lot of energy exploration is being found in that country, which threatens the Russian petro state. And this is, I think, another reason why Russia is being so aggressive, especially in the southern parts where a lot of this new energy has been found and will contest Russia as a petro state and contend with it directly, which, of course, Russia can't have because that's one of its major assets is its energy that it provides the world.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Oil. Gas, oil, energy, yep. So, yeah, complex situation, very confusing, lots of different sides, lots of different atrocities. No one wins in war. And please, my goodness, let's try to call for some de-escalations here and stop with this madness and people dying for the whims of politicians and their aspirations. Well, we got a midterm coming up and investors.com, Dow Jones drops on hot inflation data.
Starting point is 00:49:15 So we're down what? We're down again, several percentage points. What's going on? The market's imploding. We're seeing real estate prices drop. We're seeing inflation across the board. I think food prices are up in Germany. What, like, was it 19% or something? Yeah. I don't know. Something like that. Double digits.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Oh, it's going to be bad. So, well, so aside from the potassium iodide, what kind of emergency food have you guys been buying? I cook with a lot of lentils. It's like Ian's cooking lentils every day. Red lentils, baby. This is whyan's cooking lentils every day red lentils baby this is why it's actually nice to be in america you know like we have a lot of food in this country we don't need to import it we're not in the position of a lot of countries that do um you
Starting point is 00:49:55 know we we really are blessed by our geographic advantages in so many different ways oh yeah you know oceans on two sides of us substantially, substantially smaller countries on the north and south. Good neighbors. Good neighbors. Incredible waterways. I think somebody did a map once where they described the navical waterways of the United States. Huge mountains that, of course, are very difficult to traverse. Sure. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:50:18 But, you know, yeah, I mean, so... And you can build stuff in them, like underground bases that can withstand nuclear bombs. I'm just saying, there's so much natural farmland in the United States that just dwarfs almost anywhere else in the world in terms of just the amount of farmland and the ability of our country to produce its own food. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:34 And we don't have to buy cat food, actually, because Bocas just caught a squirrel the other day. No. He'll go again? No, I'm just talking about the one that he got. And he went into one of the ramps. We couldn't get him out. And I guess he just ate it.
Starting point is 00:50:46 So, you know, there's that. That's cheap. When you live out here in the middle of nowhere, man, you can grow your own food. It's pawpaw season. Guys, you know, we had a pawpaw bread today. It was amazing. Oh, good. Pawpaw is hillbilly banana.
Starting point is 00:50:57 So there's food aplenty. But if you live in a big city like New York or even outside of one like, I don't know arlington for instance you're probably in trouble especially with the potential attacks on infrastructure so if energy goes out if the internet goes out which again a lot of it is dependent on underground sea cables which i think we should be keeping a close eye on because i do believe there's going to be some significant that can be that's a logical way for Russia to retaliate against us. Absolutely. That's very logical. You're going to be watching your House of Dragons and it's going to cut off
Starting point is 00:51:31 and then it's going to be like we can't load because Russia cut a cable. Yeah. Or you can't communicate with somebody. It was a corporation that did it. Or you can't have energy. I mean, if you can't have energy or communications in a place like new york city i mean you're screwed people people don't understand how how spoiled we've
Starting point is 00:51:51 gotten i want you to imagine this scenario you're sitting in your house when all of a sudden the power goes out cell lines are down your phone doesn't work you can't text anybody you have no internet it's just you and your family you live let's say you live in a small suburban community all of a sudden you know it's a couple hours. You're talking to your neighbors like, what's going on? We don't know. Military vehicles pull up. If you're lucky.
Starting point is 00:52:12 They tell you, get everybody, line up, line up. What do you do? You have no idea who they are. You have no idea what's going on. Do you just say yes? What if it's the enemy? What if they took out a substation? What if they've invaded?
Starting point is 00:52:23 What do you do? Well, I would say if the military shows up in a situation that comply because it's probably the good guys if they show up right away um what i would not don't are you crazy i mean look at them if they have american insignias on them don't fight them they're probably there to help it's probably national guard coming out if something really bad happens but you know obviously don't just you have learned nothing when the military don't don't you you know, obviously don't just learn to nothing. When the military don't, don't,
Starting point is 00:52:47 you know, don't think, don't go full paranoia, insane mode right away. If something bad happens, you know, keep your wits about you. And remember that we're on American soil.
Starting point is 00:52:55 We're all here together. When your power and communications go down and a military vehicle pulls up. No, don't comply. Demand confirmation. But I mean, don't be so open fire. Basically is what I'm saying, no, don't comply, demand confirmation. Yeah. Or just be self-reliant. Don't open fire, basically, is what I'm saying. Like, just leave and let be.
Starting point is 00:53:12 You know, you don't have to comply. You don't have to go along with whatever military men show up at your door and want you to. Is it an assessment of, like, what the odds are whether they're friendly or enemy military? Yeah. I mean, obviously, the odds are it's a friendly military. But it's not like a coup d'etat. Or. Or if there's like a coup d'etat. Exactly. Well, but that'll be in D.C., right?
Starting point is 00:53:29 Yeah, but that will have effects. It's not even about that. It's about they've rounded Americans up before and put them in camps. Right. In World War II, this happened. But even, I mean... Don't just say, sure, I'll get on the bus.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Well, but like, should the Japanese have violently resisted the efforts? Would that have been smart for the Japanese? They could have peacefully and passively resisted at the very least. I don't know. I just I think, you know, it's one of those like horrible things. But the outcomes for the Japanese people who resisted would not have been better than those that complied. Like it's an appalling human rights abuse by our government.
Starting point is 00:54:00 But that doesn't mean that like the correct and practical course of action for the victims of that oppression was to violently resist. I'm not sure at the same time the appropriate response is to willfully enter a concentration camp. No, no. Don't just jump into the fire when you see it burning, but, you know, use discretion and don't just assume it's the enemy if something bad happens. You don't have to resist. You don't have to comply either, but, you know, you could force the issue and make it more of a debate yeah
Starting point is 00:54:25 sure you could definitely make it like some sort of like civil disobedience or avoid it i mean we're talking about overt violations of the constitution like and civil rights and human rights criminal actions being placed being made against the american citizens because they were scared that some of them because of the way they looked may have been spies in hindsight if you were japanese during world war ii what would you do i don't know that's like it i'm trying to i think that i would try and avoid detection by the right i would try and avoid it i wouldn't i don't think i'd like start shooting at government agents to avoid being taken to a to one of the camps but i think i would try and like of you know i'd try and avoid them hide you want to of course try to go through everything before reserting to violence uh you want to try all options peaceful disobedience protesting but like it's a difficult question
Starting point is 00:55:17 what should the jews in germany have done uh different i mean different given that the i mean and i think the warsaw uprising demonstrates this right like the way that in it was a there is a category difference between how we treated the japanese people and how the nazis treated jews right yeah genesis you know the camps versus genocide is a big big gulf but a lot of a lot of a lot of the the the jewish people and it wasn't just jewish people it was it was polish people it was gay people a lot of these people. Handicapped people. A lot of them. They weren't beaten and dragged into these train carts. Many of them were just, they pulled up and said,
Starting point is 00:55:49 all right, we're getting in. We're bringing you to a camp. Well, a lot of them were also work camps. My family got sent to a work camp. And then they had death camps as well. So my great-grandmother was in a work camp with my grandmother. My grandmother tells me the stories and the craziness of that situation.
Starting point is 00:56:07 And she was extremely lucky. And randomly, a family just decided to pick her up after her mother, my great-grandmother, was sent off to a death camp, and she died there. And a family adopted my grandmother. And that's the only reason she survived. That's the only reason I'm here today. They went to a work camp and picked her up? In Poland, when the German government took over during World War II,
Starting point is 00:56:31 if you had a number of kids, you didn't have to pay taxes. And the state liked that you had a number of kids because you were procreating. So there was a family that didn't have enough kids to not pay taxes, didn't have enough kids to get the government benefits. So they adopted one off of one of the trains that was heading off to the Stutthof camp. And that's where, you know, my great grandmother passed away. So in hindsight, you know. I mean, it's something people should consider.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Luke was born in a Soviet satellite. Yeah. My family took part in the Saladernos protest. That, of course, was a big part protest that of course was a big part of taking down communism a big part of taking down the soviet union so now people know where he gets it from well yeah absolutely you know you're raised in this stuff and you have your family tell you hey this happened to your uncle this is the torture that he went through hey this is the the secret jail the secret you know um this is the the craziness that we faced this here,
Starting point is 00:57:25 then and then and then, and you keep hearing these stories and it's just absolutely, you know, it builds who you are because it teaches you the important lessons of history that sadly a lot of people have forgotten. And this is why I'm so passionate about these issues. This is why I've been at this for so long
Starting point is 00:57:46 because the writing is on the wall and i think it's only a matter of time until we repeat history and i think in many instances we already have you mentioned communications being part of uh the danger of loss of electricity and all that in new york or wherever but like so would it be wise for people then to get cb radios with like a solar charger or something. Probably get that for $100. A regular AM FM radio. Yeah, $28. Hand crank. You ever see those? You can crank it to charge the battery. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get one of those. It's exhausting.
Starting point is 00:58:14 You charge for a while, but it works. But you want to hear what's going on because they may say, you'll turn the radio on and it'll say a large group of whatever are heading south down i-90 as we leave the area now you you know it's estimated they'll arrive within one hour and then you're gonna be okay it's time to get out of here yeah two-way radio too that's that'll if the
Starting point is 00:58:34 internet yeah that's kind of stuff that's happening in ukraine i'm sure yeah like or happened especially during uh during the advances i mean people just don't get it. All right. Imagine you're in your neighborhood. Imagine there's shooting going on in every direction. You walk outside. It's cold. Do you wear a coat? Yes or no? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:56 You get shot. Oh, right. Someone sees you. They don't know what you're carrying. They say, don't know. Don't care. I'm not taking the risk. When there's active conflict going on.
Starting point is 00:59:04 So this is actually something that happened. A guy, I think it was like a civilian, was walking taking the risk. When there's active conflict going on, so this is actually something that happened. A guy, I think it was like a civilian, was walking down the street. Someone shot him because they were like, the coat was big. They couldn't tell if he was armed or not and they didn't want to take a risk. Because there's Russian and Ukrainian forces fighting, you see a random guy, you say,
Starting point is 00:59:18 you want to risk it? You want to be the one to walk over to him and make sure that he's on your side or not? Or would you rather just sweep the area with your team you know you can trust and say, screw it to everybody else? People don't get what war is like. I'm not going to pretend to have been in it. I've been in civil unrest and some civil conflict. And even then, it's crazy. The craziest thing about it is how normal things continue. This is what really bugs me about the whole Civil War narrative when uh scott adams and and you know uh bill burr were like go outside nobody's fighting scott adams said there's not going to
Starting point is 00:59:49 be a civil war you know how i know all right and then and then he said there's there's no there's no appetite for outside of twitter's imagination and someone responded how do you know he said what's your source he said i went outside yes i've i've been uh i was in kiev during the euro my dan protests There were riots. There were police. It was getting crazy. They were tense. And then you walk two blocks and you're at a shopping center.
Starting point is 01:00:13 In fact, the shopping center was in the Maidan Square. So like you could walk from the protests where there had been people firebombing tanks or APCs and you can walk inside and I'm going to buy I'm going to buy this coat right here in this shopping. In Egypt during the revolution, you could walk two blocks from Tahrir Square and there's a McDonald's with people eating cheeseburgers and they're watching the game. In the Hilton Hotel, you could walk in while people – this is the craziest thing. I'm on the 26th floor looking down. People are throwing things at each other. They're shooting each other.
Starting point is 01:00:40 It was two rival factions, secular group and the Muslim Brotherhood. APCs start rolling through with people riding on top. They're hooting and hollering. I walk 10 feet, there's a casino. People are playing games and acting like nothing is happening. People seem to think that when war breaks out, it's everyone running around,
Starting point is 01:00:56 flailing, throwing things and screaming. People still have to live. Stores try to operate. Sometimes it gets so bad that the bullets stop people from doing it. But if you've, if, if, you know, you look at these videos out of Syria and there are people walking down the street, carrying like a basket full of fruits while there's like shelling going on, what are they supposed to do? They got to eat. Humans still have to do these things.
Starting point is 01:01:19 The best, the craziest thing when the war in Syria broke out, we tried pursuing the story while advice, the Damascus tourism board was advertising for people, even in the United The craziest thing, when the war in Syria broke out, we tried pursuing the story while at Vice. The Damascus Tourism Board was advertising for people, even in the United States, to come party and enjoy the nightlife of Damascus when there were like fears of sarin gas attacks. And so we were like, we were at Vice and we're like, can we go to Damascus and film a video that's literally just us partying and entertaining what they're advertising while acknowledging this war is going on? So you're saying you don't shut down for war, but maybe for a virus sometimes? I don't get it. What's worse here? You know, shout out to Elon Musk and Starlink and anyone else that's working on satellite internet because if our terrestrial internet does go down, which sounds extremely vulnerable, if it's underwatering cables right along where those pipelines run,
Starting point is 01:02:09 they just got one of those. We need a backup. And if we got internet satellites, then at least we'll be able to keep talking to each other. I think that we can maintain order in a blackout. There's satellite communications, two-way texting devices. They're only a couple hundred bucks. I recommend it. Yeah, satellite internet's gotten a that's why that's why wi-fi is a lot
Starting point is 01:02:27 better on planes the new iphones have satellite capabilities as well yep the new iphones if you get lost and there's no cell phone service you could literally uh use the iphone as a way to track down satellites as a way to send out an sos signal and reach uh search and rescue anywhere and everywhere yes sos via satellite yeah that like a SOS with satellite? Yes, SOS via satellite. That's impressive. So, I mean, yeah. So 10 years ago, I was doing, a buddy of mine was doing security consulting.
Starting point is 01:02:54 I was assisting him. He was a security guy. I wasn't. But, you know, I know a little bit about InfoSec stuff and TAC and drones. But one of the things that he got was a two-way texting device that allows you to send text messages. It's this little gray box. I'd have to imagine 10 years later, the technology is vastly improved.
Starting point is 01:03:09 So that's really cool. And now it's in your cell phone. The new iPhone 14. Well, he's got one. Great. No, it's not even tracking the phone. It's in the software update, right? Like I think my phone, which is a 13, I remember seeing the SOS icon.
Starting point is 01:03:21 I'm not sure because it's a new antenna that they're using to link with the satellite. You might be right, but I'm not that sure. I don't know. I think my phone suggests it because when I have no bars, I see SOS. And I'm like, that must be it. It takes over a minute to send under trees with light or medium foliage. That's crazy. If you're in ideal conditions, you have a view of the sky and the horizon.
Starting point is 01:03:42 It'll take 15 seconds to send. Oh, my gosh. It's just an SOS call? You don't get to send text? Can you send text? Well, you send information about what's going on here, and you go through the prompts, especially if you're lost. It is iPhone 14.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Okay. Yeah, it says, well, it is coming with an update, but it says using emergency SOS via your iPhone 14. Okay, I guess you do have to have an iPhone 14. Wow, I actually want to get one now. I mean, imagine you're hiking and you get lost. Yeah, lost yeah that's really that's you just hold it up and just wait for a minute and then they're gonna get a gps coordinate then you just bunker down right wow yep cool stuff modern technology that's awesome yeah it can be used to track you everywhere you
Starting point is 01:04:18 go of course probably probably like including completely probably a back door in there that of course it's like satellites we can't see what he's saying. Send in the satellites. But it gives you the chance to track yourself, which is pretty cool. This software should be free for sure. Now there's no escaping the DARPA darknet and the surveillance system. Well, the worrying thing is that technologies eventually become necessities. Luxuries become necessities.
Starting point is 01:04:44 So what happens is in 20 years years you're walking through a forest there's a you know guy driving you know park a park employer a park ranger pulls up and he goes you didn't register on the beacon system where's your uh where's your gps it's like i don't have one put your hands behind your back but i'm from 2021 let me go where's your permission slip to in nature, which is what they're doing more and more of. You literally need permission slip to go into a lot of national parks and you need to make reservations, sometimes years in advance.
Starting point is 01:05:14 It's absolutely crazy that the government is limiting people's ability to be in nature. And that's just, I want to use some French language here, but I won't. Absolutely wrong. That's funny that they call it French. When people start swearing up a storm, they're like, that's French, man.
Starting point is 01:05:31 I love the French. The French are awesome. Shout out to the French man and the statue. All right. Let's talk about Elon Musk. So for those that don't know, Elon Musk's text messages have been released. Not all of them, but many of them. I love this.
Starting point is 01:05:43 And some of them are like really silly. Like, what is this? I jump on a grand for you. Like, I jump on a grand for you. Well, this is what happens when someone's on an iPhone and then they like your text. Android users see this ridiculous message. And I get it.
Starting point is 01:06:00 And I'll say something like, you know, like, oh, man, I'm feeling sick. And it'll be like, liked, oh, man, I'm feeling sick. And I'm like, thanks for letting me know, I guess. But I'm like, that's when you're just get it. I'll say something like, you know, like, oh, man, I'm feeling sick. And I'll be like, liked. Oh, man, I'm feeling sick. And I'm like, thanks for letting me know, I guess. But I like that when you're just tapping it. So, Will, what's going on here? Elon Musk is apparently going to have to buy Twitter. What's the deal? I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:14 So the litigation is ongoing. Remember that Twitter sued Elon Musk to try and make him buy the company and go through with the merger agreement. I mean, and I've predicted for quite some time that Elon is going to lose this lawsuit and he's going to be forced by Twitter. The trial is coming up in a couple of weeks. But anyway, the reason we're seeing all this stuff is because right now they're doing this really rushed discovery process
Starting point is 01:06:36 and everybody's producing everything, including all Elon's text messages with people that relate in any way to the Twitter buyout. And so some of these are absolutely hilarious. Like there was a whole text conversation. I think I sent it to the group. Here's one from, who is this? Oh, this is with Jason Calacanis.
Starting point is 01:06:55 What's going on with you marketing and SPV to randos? This is not okay. Not randos. I have the largest angel syndicate and that's how I invest, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, so what are some of the good ones? the good ones are one that with this one with parag so parag i think i put this in the twitter group chat uh parag is the ceo of twitter yeah he says yeah parag's the ceo twitter he says you are free to tweet quote is twitter dying end quote or
Starting point is 01:07:18 anything else about twitter but it's my responsibility to tell you that it's not helping me make twitter better in the current context next time we speak i'd like to tell you that it's not helping me make Twitter better in the current context. Next time we speak, I'd like to provide you with perspective on the internal distraction and how it's causing it, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Elon responds. What did you get done this week? I'm not joining the board. This is a waste of time. We'll make an offer to take Twitter private. Also, this is why I like Elon. And yeah,
Starting point is 01:07:40 zero to a hundred. Imagine, imagine talking to someone like Parag. Yeah. Like that. The way he talked, it's just, I'd be like, come on, guys, say words. Let's figure out what you need to get done that you don't like.
Starting point is 01:07:53 There's two typos in Parag's response. I'd like to you provide you perspective. And then on the level of internal distraction right now and how it hurting our ability to do work. Like he's the CEO of Twitter and he gets two typos in a message to Elon Musk who wants to spend $54 billion. But I can't get his, his, his text, right?
Starting point is 01:08:12 Like, right. Dude, I would, I would be also be very annoyed if I got a text like that from someone that was purporting to be a CEO. Yeah. Well,
Starting point is 01:08:21 you check your text. Yeah. I think, I mean, it does show that sort of the decision to take go and take twitter private was a little bit emotional on like elon's part and kind of impulsive yeah uh he probably regretted it huh yeah he probably and i think that's i mean that's the heart of the lawsuit is that you know you just have buyer's remorse like you you just suddenly
Starting point is 01:08:38 realize the value tanked you know well not that the value tanked but he thought he saw a general market downturn coming and the the amount of money that it was going to take to buy Twitter was just too big a portion of his net worth and would have too many implications on Tesla and SpaceX. Yeah, that and Twitter's trash. Yeah, but I don't know. I think that was never why Elon really wanted to buy it, I don't think. He always said it wasn't an economic rationale, and I heard that. I think that that's true. I got a question. What does Elon care about his net worth you know i mean i mean it i mean i
Starting point is 01:09:09 understand wanting to build stuff but i mean it implicates his ability to continue to control what happens at tesla for example because most of his net worth is bound up in tesla stock so i guess it would take too much of his stock right so we'd have to sell too much of it the value would go down his his overall control of tesla might decrease i'm not exactly sure if tesla operates with the you know class a class b shares that always means that this is a question you know here's a question right you know i've spent a long time working on this this youtube channel as long as as well as many other people and my other show uh podcast on my other channels. And it's like, would I sacrifice these if it meant I got to own Twitter and then shut Twitter down?
Starting point is 01:09:52 And I'm kind of like, hmm, maybe. I think ultimately Twitter is going to be a better business than Tesla, frankly. Really? Well, Tesla is working on a lot of things like personalized robots. I don't know if you heard about this one. They might be, but I'm still, still i mean their basic business is is car manufacturing and and car manufacturing is a terrible business it's just super capital intensive i mean every other car manufacturer in the world trades at like a price to earnings ratio of six or something which is
Starting point is 01:10:20 just way below and the government's not giving him any subsidies they're giving it to a lot of other companies so uh it's just it's just i think you know being an auto manufacturer is actually a really rough and hard business there's a reason tesla was like a few years ago was like nearly going bankrupt and why a lot of the big manufacturers go to mexico or china oh yeah and i mean think about all the constant bankruptcies you hear about gm and ford and i mean it's super competitive too that's the other. I mean, Elon's not the only guy making electric cars. There's a billion other manufacturers coming out with them. So I look at Twitter and Twitter's kind of got this almost monopoly on this particular type of public square communication. It's just a question of how to monetize it. But, you know, compare it like all the Twitter competitors are getting wrecked. It's not the same in car manufacturers where there's a lot of effective competition. Mine doesn't have a lot of overhead, which is a big upside. Twitter's got, I don't know, 5,000 employees.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Sure. It's a ridiculous amount of money you spend on that. I don't even know what they're doing. Fire them all. But think about what happened to Parler. Parler, I don't know if you saw, there was actually a small news item, but the new Parler CEO basically said
Starting point is 01:11:22 they're pivoting away from their legacy social media business into like servers for the you know trying to can you know similar to rumble create like the uncancellable economy um gabs getting wrecked right and so the idea is that the you know cloud services yeah so they i mean basically that's that's the ceo of parlor or the new ceo parlor looking at it wow, this social media business is not going anywhere. I'm going to do something else with this company. Jason, is he still the CEO? The new CEO? No, Jason left.
Starting point is 01:11:53 I think it's Candace Owens' husband is the new CEO of Parler. George Palmer. Parler and Getter and Gab. I'm thinking about Getter. Getter is just funded by the Chinese billionaire, the guy who funds Bannon. I thought he he was bankrupt i don't think he's bankrupt but that's where the like the original funding yeah jason miller of getter is what i was talking about and he's still ceo see that's the thing i got parlor and getter mixed up like they're both er twitter
Starting point is 01:12:18 getter parlor like they're just copying carbon like and what's the difference here it's all no e just the consonant and then the r the only way they're trying to compete like their entire competitive advantage is we don't censor but that's not really a competitive advantage like they're proud i mean and the end result of that is i mean if if you're you get the the core of your user base then becomes the people who were censored i don't even know how people use twitter i don't know i I mean, I like, I like Twitter and Twitter is where everybody else is. So it's still the functional public square.
Starting point is 01:12:52 I think this is one of those Twitter and this particular type of social media business is just, it's a natural monopoly. Elon, he needs to buy it, man. Yeah. Because we need, we need Alex Jones back.
Starting point is 01:13:00 We need Carl Benjamin back. We need Milo Yiannopoulos back. We need Laura Loomer back. These people should be on there they should be saying what they think and they should be allowed to speak their sayings
Starting point is 01:13:07 Elon I mean just settle dude you're going to lose anyway he's going to lose this lawsuit settle buy the company maybe that's the idea he's going to get it cheaper now just by forcing a settlement
Starting point is 01:13:17 maybe but we're I mean we're you know we're close to a trial and an order from the judge that says yeah Elon you are ordered
Starting point is 01:13:24 to buy the company at this price. Wow. But what if he can't? He can. Oh, he can. He has the money. And everybody knows he has the money. I mean, you can do public, based on his public holdings of Tesla, for example.
Starting point is 01:13:35 But can they force liquidation of Tesla stock? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Wow. And hold him in contempt. Well, basically, they can hold him in contempt until he does it and charge him enough money that effectively enforces it. Yeah, I think you said this before that a judge can hold you in contempt in a way that's reasonable to make you comply. Meaning like if you're very wealthy, they will just make it painful for you.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Right. There's no limit to the amount they can fine you if you're just in contempt, flouting a court order. They're going to do as much as is necessary to get you to comply. Did you guys see the Jack Dorsey, Elon Musk texts? Are those also from Discovery? Yeah, yeah. It's like I have it all here, but there's like no way I'm going to be able to go through. Yeah, there's better formats I've seen of it.
Starting point is 01:14:18 CNBC did a story on it. Jack Dorsey tried to get Elon Musk to work. But it's them talking about basically that they want to they both want to decentralize the the technology and uh work together and that jack was like i couldn't i could try and get you on the board i got three percent of the company and really no pull there but i'll see what i can do and then he's like what i really want to do is use this stuff as a decentralized protocol and elon's like okay i like that idea so if he buys twitter uses the software frees the software code makes it like a universal global effort to create a decentralized... Encrypts private messages so they can't get leaked to anyone?
Starting point is 01:14:49 Well, the downside of encrypted messages, if I send you something encrypted, you can send that to anyone. I don't have any... You got to trust the person on the other end. But the idea is it's encrypted between the two people that are using the message. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, encrypted messaging is key. So how do you think this is going to play out? do you see this kind of going forward what's the timeline and then uh do you see a a big kind of blowback if elon does take over that there might be some
Starting point is 01:15:16 efforts because bill gates already had a lot of secretive efforts with his uh organizations trying to of course attack elon musk. They had a big public beef. He used a lot of his NGOs as a form to attack him. Will there be attacks on Twitter to, of course, compromise it as a platform? I mean, I don't think they can really compromise it as a platform. I think you'll see the activists will be in a different position because Elon won't pay attention to the left-wing activists in the same way that the current management does. i'm speculating is what if someone says okay well
Starting point is 01:15:47 elon has the platform now let's talk about how many bots are on the platform oh it's it's 50 of the platform and if people find a private company so it's not subject to the same sort of security regulations but someone could leak or or try to of course sabotage the company yeah i mean maybe but it's the the sort of obvious methods of sabotage that you're thinking of wouldn't work in the world where it's a private company and then it doesn't have to obey securities laws in the same way right where it's you know the it's it's one of the big disciplining things about our system and and i think people you know we think that the free market and capitalism only you know works because of competition but one big thing is
Starting point is 01:16:23 that public company CEOs have to tell the truth about their companies every three months in a way that politicians don't. Politicians can just lie and lie and lie about the operation of the government and so can the department heads. And nobody's ever threatened to jail for that. But if you are a public company CEO
Starting point is 01:16:40 and you lie about your business results, you can go to jail for securities fraud. Why don't we make it so that whenever you're inaugurated or whatever you swear an oath to to you know tell the truth well it's like it's it's like the government the problem is it's the government trying to hold itself accountable for honesty and especially like the highest level officials and it just doesn't it doesn't work the same way the reason this works is because the sovereign is imposing that discipline on, on public company CEOs. I remember James Clapper testifying under oath that they weren't wittingly
Starting point is 01:17:10 spying on the American people with the prism software or the prism program. And they were, but I mean, and he was, he used the word wittingly, like maybe they were inadvertently doing it and didn't realize it. But I mean, I think they were kind of wittingly spying and like,
Starting point is 01:17:21 no, there was no, yeah. You know, there's these external consequences right like even james clapper should have been prosecuted but i mean you can't the intelligence agencies have the own their own problem which is like the the ultimately the j edgar hoover problem they know too much yeah lying to congress you know that's a charge that's being thrown around right
Starting point is 01:17:38 now hoover did that routinely exactly all the cia agents did that you know individuals like roger roger stone get charged for that. Other individuals, like the former head of the CIA, that knowingly lie, that also get us into wars. No, no, no. I'm not going to use that one. It's weird. It's like the industrial agriculture of politics is like, or what do you call it, when they have a bunch of pig slaughterhouses in secret. We don't want to look at it. We don't want to smell it.
Starting point is 01:18:02 But we know those pigs are getting cut up in tens by tens of thousands. People are grabbing piglets and smashing them on the ground because they don't like them. Crazy people work in these slaughter shops. We know it's happening. A lot of people do, but we're just letting it happen because we want that bacon. We know the CIA is lying, but we just let it happen because we need a secret agency
Starting point is 01:18:20 telling lies for a living. That's the whole point of the CIA. I don't know if you can compare the CIA to bacon. Bacon has a purpose yeah bacon actually helps people i have bacon every morning and it may it's the light of my day i'll tell you more about i'm i just started the cia book and i'm going to read more about it what is it called it's called let me see uh legacy of ashes uh which is it sounds about right yeah which is really i mean i think is that from the jfk quote I'm not sure. JFK had a famous quote about what he wanted to do with the CIA.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And JFK goes like, I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to tear him up, set him on fire, and then piss on him. There's a really great ex-CIA, former CIA counterterrorist expert, Kevin Shipp. And I highly recommend looking up anything he does on the internet. He wrote a book called From the Company of Shadows, talking about cia operations abuse of secrecy and he's like full out they've threatened his family he said since he's left and talked about it but he's like just straight up and telling you there's like a law they have that lets them lie it almost
Starting point is 01:19:16 encourages for the name of national defense it's standard protocol what was uh mike pompeo's uh he he said uh you know we were taught to, and steal, and that's exactly what we did. He said something to that tone. I forgot what it was. I've got to pull it up. Yeah, but I also finished Tim. Same guy, Tim Weiner, wrote a book called Enemies, which was about the FBI.
Starting point is 01:19:36 That's also a really good book. I've sort of been, you know, read about the FBI and the CIA since we're all talking about fixing them. Fixing? Yeah, dismantling. But yeah, no, CIA, the big thesis of the CIA book so far is the CIA is actually incompetent.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Like we think of it as scary and over, you know, abusive, but in reality, you know, the big lesson is more than anything, it was just straight up incompetent and killed a lot of its own agents for no good reason. Well, I would argue that's a cover, but that's just my own pure speculations. But Mike Pompeo did say on the record, we lied we cheated we stole we had entire training courses
Starting point is 01:20:11 it reminds you of the glory of the american experiment that's literally what he said lying and now he might be running uh to be the next president of the united states the glory of the american spirit meaning like stealing the land from the native population uh that's you know like telling them you know we're gonna we're gonna make a deal with you and then not giving them this stuff i mean there's a well i think it was no the natives would give their land for like blankets and then they wanted the land back and they're like no you call that they call it an indian giver it was like this real offensive you know i'm not they still call them indian like they're from india i'm not an expert in Indian history, but I know there's a lot of contention to what actually happened. Indian history is in India.
Starting point is 01:20:49 The Native American population, that was abuse of slander to call those people Indians, especially if they knew they didn't land in India. And they knew that really early on. I think actually a lot of them don't care. Well, I care. But call Indians Indian. Call Native Americans Americans. That's my opinion.
Starting point is 01:21:03 I think that, you know, whatever. We got to jump to this story, my friends. It's the end of an era. Trevor Noah quits The Daily Show after a wokery saw viewing figures slumped to around 363,000 a show. Seven years of taking over from Jon Stewart, who routinely pulled in an audience of 1.5 million.
Starting point is 01:21:19 Yeah, I do think wokery played a role, but I also think it's just a change in how media is being consumed i think john stewart was the real talent trevor noah was kind of a nobody so he couldn't really pull anything in yeah and also who's going to be watching this yeah john stewart built that show trevor noah just inherited it uh but this is but this is still good news yes i think trevor noah was was bad he had halfs and misinformation consistently on his show that he wouldn't fact-check.
Starting point is 01:21:47 And these are the kind of people that believed Russiagate, Ukrainegate, Hands Up, Don't Shoot, Ahmaud Arbery, you know, the Trayvon Martin stuff. They believed all the lies, the manipulations.
Starting point is 01:21:55 So seeing him go, I was talking about this earlier, it is the end of an era. The corporate establishment, the woke establishment, they are dwindling. James Corden, is that his name, that guy? He's out. San the b.i canceled she's out did corden quit or i
Starting point is 01:22:09 think he quit did uh trevor noel quit he is quitting he hasn't he's not out yet but he's announced his departure from the show and so good there who are they going to get this is effectively the end of this of this trash john stewart may have had something back in the day, but he created this breed of mechanical, formulaic, fake political humor that has plagued this country for a decade. So I'm glad to see Trevor Noah out. Hopefully, things like this start to spread out and downturn. Hopefully, there's more of this. I mean, you know, think about John Stewart destroyed Crossfire. You remember that?
Starting point is 01:22:42 That's right. That's right. And Crossfire, at the time, he was like, this is partisan hackery. We can do so much better. And it's like Crossfire was the last time you had Republicans and Democrats regularly debating each other on equal terms on a major network. John Stewart comes in smug as a button and says, this is garbage and mocks Tucker Carlson. And what does what is John Stewart's legacy?
Starting point is 01:23:03 Garbage, formulaic, trash humor. We get it, Jon Oliver. It's the current year, little Timothy. Yeah, snort. It's like, it's, it's, it's all, it's not just that. It's that somebody, somebody actually wrote out the formula for Jon, Jon Oliver's show. And it was like, say thing, compare it to thing in the past, say what year it is, then say Timothy.
Starting point is 01:23:24 And it was like, you're like, wow, he actually does that like half the time. That's crazy. And then it was like, they mentioned there would be beats with claps from the audience. Like, and it was his meme that was talking about how this was basically programming
Starting point is 01:23:35 people say thing, call it absurd, whether it's true or not, tell the audience to clap for it. That's John Stewart's legacy. Samantha B, all that stuff gone. Good.
Starting point is 01:23:44 Yeah. And it was was it's all been terrible like john stewart was like the original and i remember john stewart being pretty funny at times like he actually had real talent but god the derivatives of john stewart were so bad it was the echoes of stewart yeah colbert report plague horror i thought it was so bad he was pretending to be a warmonger and you couldn't tell if he was being honest or not. It was the worst propaganda. He was being a warmonger.
Starting point is 01:24:09 Yeah. He was basically like, well, that's why we need war. And you're like, people don't understand you're joking, bro. You program people for a decade. Have you watched his show? I nearly vomited for like 10 years.
Starting point is 01:24:24 He's totally corporate. He's doing what, the late show? He wants money, for like 10 years. Oh, he's totally corporate. He's doing what the late show? He wants money and he'll hide behind, you know, whoever's in the garden. Jon Stewart's legacy is a plague on this country. Like Jordan Klepper is his name or whatever. Samantha Bee, John Oliver, Stephen Colbert. These are not good people helping this country. The only good alumni of The Daily Show are the people who went into acting.
Starting point is 01:24:44 Like Steve Carell. That's it. Right. Yeah, he avoided political propaganda. The only good alumni of The Daily Show are the people who went into acting, like Steve Carell. That's it. Right. Yeah. He avoided political propaganda. He avoided the political stuff and he just did The Office and has been funny for a decade. I mean, Colbert was funny on The Daily Show when he was the correspondent.
Starting point is 01:24:56 I thought he's a funny actor, but his political crap is like just over the top. Yeah, I thought Colbert Report was better than the current version of Colbert's late night show, which is just pure, like the most banal thing ever. When Jon Stewart went on Colbert's show, the new one, and said that lab leak was the most likely scenario for COVID, and Colbert was pushing back like, no, no, no, no. And that contrast right there was the difference between what Jon Stewart started and what his legacy is. Right. That's true. And, you know, he was very busy also dancing with the syringes so uh he was preoccupied and couldn't really think straight there but you know who thought you know just being a show for the establishment it wasn't paying off and i think a a big reason to to why this this is happening is because probably comedy central is running out of money. And I think they're going to move
Starting point is 01:25:46 into the same realm as MTV. Do they have anything now? I mean, I guess they have South Park. They have reruns of South Park. I guess they don't even get original South Park. Which are now premiered originally on Paramount+. So even Comedy Central doesn't have that. So they're probably going to be running
Starting point is 01:26:01 just reruns of old shows, Tosh.0, and just like MTV. And Jon Stewart. I mean, Comedy Central was like the cable network. Absolutely. And it pushed the limit, especially with Chappelle. It pushed the
Starting point is 01:26:17 Overton window, and it was able to have a conversation that was pretty spicy and wild. You know what this photo is? Compliance. Daily show audience. Sheep. And what do you notice about it masks what year is it yeah it's 2022 little timothy take off your mask what is going on with the daily show's audience that they're all still doing this and they're not laughing they're clapping and it's a cult yeah yeah this is what a cult is they they they're They're not following the guidelines anymore. They're in their own weird cult.
Starting point is 01:26:49 Yo, the mask mandates are gone. What are you doing? What's going on, man? It's been almost two. It's been over a year. They're still doing it. Yeah. Well, congratulations, Jon Stewart.
Starting point is 01:27:03 You know, he had his comeback and he dabbled in wokeness and stuff now, too. Because people are just desperate for relevance, I guess. I mean, it must be said, you know, there's a lot of people who are in, say, the music industry and they get a handful of hit songs. Then the next album comes out and it's like it sells decently. The next album comes out and no one really cares. And then their next album comes out and it sells literally nothing and they get dropped by their label. These people lost it. They're so desperate and scared that you offer them anything they'll take it i saw reality tv dancing with the chef it's like okay you're gonna dance and this guy's gonna cook food at
Starting point is 01:27:33 the same time like i'll do anything please i want to be famous the natural trajectory of a of a international here harvey weinstein like i said loudly to his candidates the modern superstar does different things you don't keep doing what made you famous when you were young you got to go on to the next thing make some hit songs make a hot tv show learn russian learn how to cook maybe start a bread baking company like you've got to do new things you can't back in the day they just recycle the same garbage but then they get unhappy and then they start just playing the game to play the game and they get lazy. So you really got to branch out. And because the reason you can do that is because all the tools are at your fingertips. You can learn Russian tonight.
Starting point is 01:28:11 You can start baking. You have access to every food on earth essentially right now. Well, a lot of people do. I'm very lucky to have access to every food on earth right now, a lot of them. So you may or may not, I't know but you know you can that's not true look up ingredients online you can look up recipes you can start baking tonight there's so many never been easier to learn to cook i will say that you can't get wasabi yeah oh scandalous i think it's like you can only get it actually in japan they don't so we what we have is like a weird i'm being hyperbolic with every food on earth but you have a wide variety of foods to choose from and recipes available at your fingertips languages you can you can learn how to pilot with flight simulators weird. I'm being hyperbolic with every food on earth, but you have a wide variety of foods to choose from and recipes available
Starting point is 01:28:45 at your fingertips. Language is, you can learn how to pilot with flight simulators. Like right now, you can start learning the basics and then go take your pilot's exam. You're making me hungry.
Starting point is 01:28:53 I want some Wagyu beef right now. Hungry for flight? You made me think about Japan. I'll make with some vinegar, baby. Well, not vinegar. You just saute it. Tallow.
Starting point is 01:29:01 I'm just waiting for that bacon to come in. So we ran out of the pre-wrapped bacon. No. I had to order more, but it takes a for that bacon to come in. So we ran out of the pre-wrapped bacon. No. I had to order more, but it takes a week or so to come in. The reason that came to mind is because if Jon Stewart did learn Russian and went to Russia and started talking as a diplomat, now we're talking international superstardom again.
Starting point is 01:29:16 And he doesn't have to hang on to Stephen Colbert's coattails to try and stay relevant and say the new cool thing. But it takes a lot of effort to learn new things you know there's no reason that john stewart couldn't actually be a very interesting figure if he just dispensed with the wokeness because i don't think that's really him that wasn't him in the 2000s at all he praised project veritas on more than one occasion yeah and he criticized people even barack obama and his drone strikes which was, and he broke from the norm. So whenever you see someone trying to be accepted and be liked, that's just a disgusting behavior that naturally human beings are like, okay, this is fake, this is ingenuine, I don't like any of this, get away from me.
Starting point is 01:29:57 But when someone's being themselves and willing to push the envelope and willing to be themselves and willing to actually speak truth to power, that's respectable. That's something that people really love because it resonates with them and it's rare but it also helps progress society and make society better when you're willing to of course get out of the agenda get out of the narrative and be able to actually have a real honest conversation and stop bullshitting people about all this nonsense that of course is all a part of an agenda meant to enslave humanity.
Starting point is 01:30:26 So, yeah, that's just my opinion at the last bit there. But the last bit there was just conjecture there for me. But you get the point. Look, this story, I think, is a white pill moment. It's optimism. You know, so I mentioned this at the start of the show. I did a segment on this earlier in the day, and I mentioned that we are going to have
Starting point is 01:30:45 one of the towers on New Year's Eve. So it's a substantial amount of advertisement. There's, I think, 10 ads that rotate over 100 seconds. We'll have one of those sets. They're all synchronized. It's going to be amazing. And everybody who's watching the celebration is going to see that ad
Starting point is 01:31:01 because they're playing the celebration all day. So it's just all day, all over the world, everyone tuning into New York City. We are taking that space over. I don't see the Daily Show up there. You got to do a thing where it's just a beanie
Starting point is 01:31:11 and then you slowly materialize into it and then you're there. I mean, that'd be cool, but I don't know if it would like send an effective message. Oh, a message to me, man. That'd be awesome. I guess.
Starting point is 01:31:20 I was thinking like, you know, one marketing strategy would be to go weird by just doing like using every screen to show Roberto Jr. Because then people are going to be like, what is this? And then you want them to ask and remember. And then. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Why is there a chicken up on. A giant five. You know, what would that be like? 400 feet tall. Would it be like the building? Like his legs in one screen, like a piece of them and all the different screens. But if you stand back far enough, you can see the whole thing. The whole chicken.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Yeah, but I was like, no, maybe we'll just do, you know, we had to figure it out. But we want the personalities, various personalities. You got to do a Super Bowl ad at some point. That would be absolutely insane. Yeah. Chickens playing football. Oh, yeah. Right?
Starting point is 01:32:01 That would be amazing. A cartoon. But I think those are substantially more expensive. Superlads are insane. Yeah, but we could raise money for it. So we weren't able to get the actual package. I'll just tell people, well, maybe I shouldn't just yet because I don't know what the contract stuff is. But let me just say there's a premium New York package they have specifically for New Year's that includes a national run.
Starting point is 01:32:25 And it just costs millions of dollars yeah and then when they called me and they were like this is what we want to do with with timcast and then i was like wow how much is that and they were like x million and i started laughing and i was like okay dude like maybe next year yeah maybe maybe maybe one day i was like but hey thanks for having faith and thinking we're capable of doing those things what we got is expensive but it's it's it's like look we're getting 10 percent of the of the of the boards so it's like not like it's anywhere near that expensive you mentioned earlier but is it a 24-hour run on each board just two weeks all day every day for two weeks for two weeks all day every day that's great so we can do a lot of different stuff. Yeah, so technically you give them your ad set and then they run it, but you can always send them updates.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Can you do, how many like in a day, different ones can you run in one day? I mean, I'd imagine as many as you want. You'd annoy the crap out of them by telling them to keep changing it. They might be like, come on, dude, chill. But we could do like an update on Christmas because it's going to be there through Christmas. And then on New Year's,, something updated for New Year's. So you can actually like what you're basically renting the space and they're digital. So you can change them to whatever you want.
Starting point is 01:33:32 Do you like some hyperbox? The world is changing call to action of some sort. Like stuff where like you are in control. This is your world call to action. I think, you know, we thought about doing some kind of message like you are not the elite anymore or something. But I think the most effective thing is literally just a basic ad. You are the elite now. Talking to the common man.
Starting point is 01:33:52 The idea is that if we make it an activist statement, we set ourselves apart from the cultural establishment. If we put ourselves there, the average person just sees us as part of it. So we've invaded that space. We've taken their clout. And then we're going to have Luke standing next to some of these people and it's just going to be hilarious. I just think that's funny. A broken clock is right twice a day.
Starting point is 01:34:13 And then show a picture of it. Time for a super chat? Roll 20. It's showing me throwing a die or something. Roll a 20. Critical success. Similar to the ads we already have, but we're going to be at
Starting point is 01:34:25 this party where they have like a special area there's a live performance vip only indoors it's catered buffet and the people who are there are apparently like the new york royalty politicians real estate owners and that's going to be us so uh i'm excited for that i think it's going to be utterly fantastic so but we're going to go to Super Chats. Let me pull up the Super Chats. It takes just about one second. Luke, say words while I do this. Words.
Starting point is 01:34:53 Words, words, words. Words, words, words. Words, words, words. What's your favorite Cyrillic letter? My favorite Cyrillic letter is J. That's Y. Backwards R. That's the last letter of the alphabet.
Starting point is 01:35:04 One more time, Ian. YAH. From start to finish. A, B, C. Okay. No say. No say. All right.
Starting point is 01:35:12 Ladies and gentlemen, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, become a member at TimCast.com because what are we going to do with it? We are going to like, I don't know, take over Times Square or at least be as a part of it for big events. And our goal is just to keep pushing into the cultural spaces. We are working on the next release of a song for our music projects. And we've got some big industry guys that are working with us. So success is happening now.
Starting point is 01:35:42 And, you know, look, you plant the seeds with what The Daily Wire is doing, the stuff we're doing, and many others. Hopefully in 10 years we've completely won the culture war. Look, Trevor Noah's out.
Starting point is 01:35:50 We're winning, baby. Let's read some super chats. Smash that like button if you haven't already. Harry To says, Hello, Luke. Lately, you're looking amazing. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:35:58 I appreciate that. You know, I have a lot of people calling me very bold and very beautiful. I appreciate it very much. That's right. Blueheart says, If Ian isn't transformed into She-Hulk this episode, then meditating didn't work like I thought. Oh, the episode's not over yet.
Starting point is 01:36:14 Nova says, if you put Alex Jones up in Times Square, I will up my sub to $25 tier until 2024. Do it. It will drive them nuts. We'll see. It's an issue of, we talked to Alex. I'm sure Alex would say yes, but there are rules. So they could say no, and then you can't really do anything. You're renting someone's property.
Starting point is 01:36:34 Like it's a rental. You know what I mean? But we did think about it. Michael Malice, I thought was the next best thing we could do because there's nothing they can really say about him, but he pokes the bear very well. Like a funny picture of Alex with the tinfoil hat on or something.
Starting point is 01:36:50 That might be a good ad. But what's the message, right? So it's a question of- Tim, follow, join us. But he's not like a part of the show in any way. He's just a goofball. Michael is like, he's a recurring guest who's done pranks and gags that we've had on the show.
Starting point is 01:37:02 So I was like, it makes sense. And he's very effective in his challenge to the establishment. So we dig it. Beavis McLean says, and now to our good friend, Beavis McLean, Tim, I audibly cheered at your time square announcement today.
Starting point is 01:37:15 I started, I startled the entire supermarket, but I regret nothing. Love what you and the gang are doing. I hope this helps fund more great jamming. Yeah, man, that was it i was just
Starting point is 01:37:25 like it's gonna be cool when these people look up on new year's eve oh i just gotta tell you when they were when we had the ads in time square these lefties were tweeting like why is there a 40 foot tall tim pool like what i'm barfing and i'm just laughing i'm like because we're winning dude and so for them to be sitting at home with their parents and like watching cnn and then they just see it all big in the background behind anderson cooper and they go what yeah we're winning dude that's it's uh all thanks to our faithful viewers and members grofty says bocus for president bocus took a piss on the wall today yeah and he stared directly into my eyes challenge i look over and I see him squatting in this weird way and then I start yelling no
Starting point is 01:38:07 and he's just looking me dead in the eyes as he just keeps doing it. I had to run over and push him to make him stop and then he runs off. What a dick. Really?
Starting point is 01:38:14 Literally. Cats, man. It's because we weren't letting him go outside because he had to go to the doctor. We let him go outside but then he's gone. You can't find him
Starting point is 01:38:21 to go to the doctor. So the other day to go to the doctor I had to go outside with a can of tuna and bang on it with a fork and then he comes running. So we't find him to go to the doctor. So the other day to go to the doctor I had to go outside with a can of tuna and bang on it with a fork and then he comes running. So we can't let him out.
Starting point is 01:38:29 You know. Apparently Bocas is constipated. Oh no. Not again. We gotta figure it out. Well it's probably from all the squirrel he's been eating or something.
Starting point is 01:38:36 Yeah he was digging into those bacons too like for a month. I had to replace We had a box. Put them in a drawer. So one of the reasons we ran out of bacon
Starting point is 01:38:44 is that Bocas jumped into the box and was just digging through them. So one of the reasons we ran out of bacon is that Bocas jumped into the box and was just digging through. I went into the box and there were like 40 open half-eaten bacons with eaten plastic. I was like,
Starting point is 01:38:53 what? She's eating plastic, really. It's probably been this gut for a month. That's what cats do. They do. They chew on plastic. They love it.
Starting point is 01:39:00 Weird. I don't know what's wrong with them. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, I've learned as a leader from the core to my current position, folks want to know the truths and whys of what is you ask of them. Leadership 101, yet politicians fail daily with this simple ask. Yeah, no, that's a key leadership lesson. Not just leading like an authoritarian.
Starting point is 01:39:22 You must do X, being willing to explain to your subordinates why you have asked them when it's appropriate obviously sometimes there's urgency but as a general rule it's good to have your subordinates understand what you're trying to accomplish yeah and why earl graham says been watching for years now and love the show today is my 33rd birthday and i wanted and i wanted was to motorboat luke tig old bitties, but sadly seems that he's been deflated. How dare you detransition? Well, just wait. That's all I got to say. And...
Starting point is 01:39:51 Oh, no, no, no. Just wait. All right. All right. David Scott says, I've posted numerous times. I have no issues with notifications. That changed today. I changed my news seeking process throughout the day and had to go to my sub list.
Starting point is 01:40:04 Get Tony Heller on the show. Who's that? Don't know. An orange sea lion says, if you only have 10%, it seems like the 10% of the time is up. CNN, et cetera, will just use clever camera angles to keep you off the screen. By all means, I'd love for them to try and do it. We're still invited to the party. So it is.
Starting point is 01:40:24 But look, there's going to be all of the people there on the ground there's going to be all the photos taken and when we we had we've had we had ads this summer there were videos on tiktok with millions of views of people dancing and our ads are in those videos so they can't do anything about it let's grab some more super jets murph tries diy says nye uh billboard should say it's over cnn i have the high ground that's a good one that's actually very funny that's good we can only do that if it's not an advertisement you can uh when it's it's it's so if we don't include the website we can actually do that but i don't know if it's worth it. You know, we want to get the advertising out of it, right?
Starting point is 01:41:10 It's because if you don't advertise, it's protected free speech. If you are advertising, it's commercial. And now you could be infringing on someone. Can you have like one image that's an advertisement? Then it morphs into another one that says that that's not an ad. Oh, so it's either they're all considered ads or none of them are. The video plays for 10 seconds. Whatever is in it is a single ad even if you flicker through different images so when we were doing we did the taylor
Starting point is 01:41:30 lorenz thing when we said she docks the lips of tiktok and they said if you include you know the website or a commercial product it's advertising and you're using someone else's likeness they won't allow it so because we didn't and it and it just said, it was quoting me, it was allowed. So good fun stuff. Smokey Joe says, not trying to be a jerk, but you are not good with predictions. And you've been on every side of Civil War predictions. World War III will happen when I happens. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:41:59 I've gotten some predictions, and I've gotten some poorly. Wait, you've gotten a prediction wrong? Oh, yeah. Once? Oh, gosh. I gosh i thought like if you prognosticated you should never ever get a prediction wrong it's just like you have to have 100 here's here's the thing that people uh a lot of these people like these lefties aren't smart enough or they probably get it they're julying if there's a video where i'm like trump might get a 49 state landslide. I think they're specifically referring to my Moody's analytics review where I was reading a news article that said
Starting point is 01:42:30 there was a possibility of a Trump 49 state landslide. Moody's was referring to, Moody's analytics in 2019 said the economy was so strong that there was a chance that Trump could actually see like a record number of electoral votes. And then I'm like, wow, like they're actually suggesting this. And then i'm like wow like they're actually suggesting this and then they act like i'm making some grand prediction because i read an economist's analysis
Starting point is 01:42:49 of the you know of of the country or something i don't know i just see it as like everybody who you know makes predictions get some right and get some wrong like i'm a lawyer and i get some legal predictions right and some legal predictions wrong i'm not perfect but also i've gotten a ton right so it is what it is yeah see i'm i'm i'm sticking with my 50 i'm sticking with my elon's gonna be forced to buy twitter prediction that one i've been on for three months so watch that yeah you're the first person to say that to me yeah groff he says roberto jr needs a cameo at the ball drop buck buck buck uh i have news we have secured a location for a brick and mortar shop maybe i shouldn't say what the name of it's going to be. Well, you know what?
Starting point is 01:43:25 We wanted to name it Roberto Jr.'s, but maybe we can't actually do that. Why? Do you want to talk about that on air? I think the idea for the brick and mortar shop is that it needs to be a business in and unto itself, in and of itself. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 01:43:43 Unique brand. Yeah, so, you know, making it being a part of what we already do kind of defeats the purpose of creating something separate. Oh, I see. So brand. Yeah. So, you know, making it being a part of what we already do, it kind of defeats the purpose of creating something separate. Yeah. That's smart. That's what I was like.
Starting point is 01:43:50 We probably can't call Roberto juniors. Oh, well, but I got to admit, like, it's, it's not like Bobby J's. It's only a matter of time before people find out like,
Starting point is 01:43:58 Oh, that shop that sells, you know, bacon is Tim's or something. You know what I mean? So we'll see what happens. Paul Morris says, I'm convinced Trevor Noah quit
Starting point is 01:44:08 because he couldn't compete with Luke's buxom display. Thank you very much. Buxom. That's a, you spelled that wrong. It's B-U-X-O-M. Yes, great spelling. Great word though. It is a good word.
Starting point is 01:44:19 You knew what he was trying to say. I had to think about it because it did. It's phonetic. Yeah, it checks out. Dana Virk says, everyone is too consumed with pointing fingers on who blew up the Nord Stream. When, what we should be focusing on
Starting point is 01:44:33 is the consequences that are to come. Yeah. Well, some of the consequences depend on who blew it up in the first place. That's true. Like, if the Russians blew it up, I guess it doesn't mean they're going to attack us because they blew it up.
Starting point is 01:44:46 You know, but if we did we escalated so I don't know it matters a lot Jason Lindholm says Tim I will bet money that military doctrine is if nukes are used then retaliation is with nukes yeah but the issue is if Poznan is that how you say it Poznan
Starting point is 01:45:01 gets nuked would the US then nuke Moscow well but you have to think about how the Russians would respond right like Poznan, is that how you say it? Poznan. Poznan gets nuked. Would the US then nuke Moscow? Well, but you have to think about how the Russians would respond, right? Like if the Russians actually did nuke Poznan, would they be doing so betting that we wouldn't respond with nukes? I don't think so, given that they're in NATO. So I think that probably we have to go through the calculation of if they nuke Poznan, like a city. We're not talking about like a military tactical nuke.
Starting point is 01:45:22 We're talking about like if they nuke a NATO city, they have to assume that nato is coming back at them which means full scale nuclear war but then what do we nuke do we say okay what's a comparable size city saint petersburg no we don't we once you you know you don't nuke piecemeal you just say okay launch mall i think nukes are the wrong thing to look at too you think that in 80 years we haven't come up with any other kinds of weapons i don't think that anybody's i honestly don't think anybody's going to break the seal because everybody the logic i'm describing is not novel right like it's it's i'm sure both russians and us have like you know doctrine on the use of nuclear weapons and and essentially what it looks like in cur in particular situations which is why i don't think russia will
Starting point is 01:46:03 use them you think so well let's see who's right. We were talking about predictions. My prediction is... Oh, man, I hope you are. I don't see a nuclear strike coming. I think Russia is going to threaten to use nuclear weapons, but I think it's first going to declare a full all-out war. And I think it's really going to put the hammer down on Ukraine, on its infrastructure.
Starting point is 01:46:21 And I think, hopefully, if we're lucky, it ends there. Why would Russia just be like, well, we're getting crushed on every front. And I think hopefully, if we're lucky, it ends there. Why would Russia just be like, well, we're getting crushed on every front. I surrender. Because they already have worth of the land they need. They have the freeways to Crimea. No, no, no. I'm saying if they lose that.
Starting point is 01:46:36 If they lose that, they're trying to take it back. Okay. Ukraine's already pushed through in many of these territories. They don't even control these four regions. They've now made them part of Russia in their eyes, so how could they not defend it? If their ground troops are routed, and their machinery
Starting point is 01:46:52 is routed, would Russia just be like, guess we lost! That land that I claimed was ours, we won't defend! Or is he going to be like, tactical nukes, nuclear artillery? Jeez, I don't know if you need to go that far. He's already rained incendiary bombs down on some of these cities. I mean,
Starting point is 01:47:08 one thing, though, is that Putin has been trying to do the Ukraine war on the cheap, right? He hasn't used many troops. That's one of the reasons that Ukraine was able to make that big advance in the Kharkov region is because it was just a very thin Russian line.
Starting point is 01:47:24 And it's also why he's done the partial mobilization now to bring in like 300 like almost 1.5 x the total military commitment in ukraine so like that's also one another reason i don't think we're because i think we're a long way down the escalatory ladder from the use of nuclear weapons in terms of i mean ukraine you know russia is going to try and you know consolidate its victory you know, Russia's going to try and, you know, consolidate its victory, you know, consolidate its territorial gains with this new troop movement. And maybe, I don't know, maybe try and move on Kiev. Jim Pop says you guys are missing the issue. Biden announced the U.S. will send divers to Nordstrom.
Starting point is 01:47:56 Really? Are they going to be picking up books? Or where does Nordstrom sell clothes? Clothes, yeah. Russia owns the Nordstrom lines. I don't think Russia owns Nordstrom. I think it's an American company, isn't it? No.
Starting point is 01:48:06 I know what you mean. I'm just poking fun. Jim Pop means the U.S. is going to be sending divers to Nordstream. Russia owns the Nordstream lines. We are going to get into a shoving match if we touch that pipeline. Possibly. Russia might be like, back off. Get your troops out of here.
Starting point is 01:48:19 This is our line. That's interesting. Alexander Cross says the correct way to survive a nuclear attack is either a find the bomb site and sit on it or b get far enough outside the blast as you can you get caught in the blast have a revolver handy in case well that's if you're caught in the um in the thermal burn radius so depending on where you are if you see a you know an icbm coming down or warhead dropping if you're close to it your best bet is to run towards it. Because then you vaporize instantly and you don't suffer.
Starting point is 01:48:50 But if you're in the thermal wave, you're going to be like screaming in agony as your skin is melting and then you slowly die. And then depending on the weapon they use, if it's got a radioactive radius or fallout, man. I wonder if like when... horrifying things sarin's worse sarin gas is way worse if when a human dies it's forced to watch the evolution of the species in fast forward after the moment they die and you like see all the things that you did in life how it affected everything and because of you and your actions whether for good or evil you caused this to happen and here's how you caused it you just get to see it all and you'd be like the regret the amount of hell that you would burn in if you didn't do what you knew you could have done in life so take advantage of it while you're here
Starting point is 01:49:32 what happens is you uh wake up in in like a carnival and there's a carnival barker and he's yelling and he shows you a chart that has all of the different probabilistic branches of your life and they're playing circus music and dancing as they do it and then you're just like huh so i would have been an astronaut if i went to school and you know on that one day if i didn't call in sick i would have been a race car driver man who saw that coming contingencies i mean this is the crazy thing like if they really if i mean i obviously don't think that really happens but if that were possible you could look at someone's life and be like if when you you were seven years old, you didn't pick up that quarter, you would not have been on TimCast IRL. You would have actually been in the Amazon building sustainable huts.
Starting point is 01:50:14 And it's like, wow, that one quarter. That's chaos theory. Well, it's because you pick the quarter up, which brought you to another point where it's like you could buy the bag of chips or not. You bought the bag of chips and then you gave it to someone. That person became your friend. They introduce you and then it creates this huge pathway that just that quarter. It's amazing. One conversation can change your entire life.
Starting point is 01:50:30 Yeah. Tommy Groshong says, Ian is on fire tonight. Well done, good sir. And then he says a word I can't read. It's Cyrillic? Yes. All right. Where is it?
Starting point is 01:50:43 It says, mono-ay-oo. Molo. Molo. Where is it? It says, um, mono, a, u. Molo. Molo. Ah, it's far away. I'm not able to see it.
Starting point is 01:50:51 Mo, that, that's an L. That L is the curvy little N looking thing. Molo, de, molo, de,
Starting point is 01:50:59 uh, fuck, I can't read that last letter. Also, nice to see Luke again. Will too. Yeah. It's too bad.
Starting point is 01:51:06 It's an upside down U. No, it's a regular U. But it's got a thing hanging from it. Molodio. I don't know how you pronounce that. Molodio. Maybe it's not an English word. I think it's... Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 01:51:17 What was that? How do you say that in Finnish? No way. Oh. Huntsman.net says, I wrote a song about the persecution of conservatives using theme themes from solzhenitsyn the huntsman is free to listen on my site cool that's cool hunter says rods from god cost too much to use what does that mean too much yeah it's hard to
Starting point is 01:51:40 get that much tungsten out of space i think that you're right though but it's called kinetic bombardment doesn't have to be tungsten yeah of space. I think that you're right, though. It's called kinetic bombardment. It doesn't have to be tungsten. Yeah. Tinhead says, we don't have rods from God because the tungsten rods are too heavy to send up. That and the rockets would have to be so massive that they wouldn't get off the ground with our current technology. Maybe we have better technology. How do you know?
Starting point is 01:51:58 What if we have anti-grav? One rod at a time. What if we have anti-grav and we just snap our fingers and then it floats right up? Who knows? All right. Where are we in the old Zubajitz? Mexicali says, you're not my dad, Ian. I won't get in the van.
Starting point is 01:52:14 You do what you think is right, but don't panic. That's for sure. How did Ian avoid the van with candy when he was five? Do his parents have to have him on a lead strap? He does whatever he is told by anyone. That's a funny assumption. Were you on strings? No, I'm actually very confrontational and don't like being told what to do.
Starting point is 01:52:32 No, but like children usually are like unleashes sometimes. I would have been punished completely. This makes no sense. My parents would have punished me like God came down and smoked me with lightning if I had done something like that. Smote. Yeah. Bobcat says, Elon Musk is going to win.
Starting point is 01:52:47 Twitter is in clear breach of contract, and that's before you even get into Twitter's Epstein-ish content problem. Will? No. That's wrong. Twitter did not breach its contract. What are you, some kind of lawyer?
Starting point is 01:53:01 Yeah, what am I, some kind of lawyer? Smarty pants over here? You need to read the merger agreement, bro. Like not there's a reason elon talked about how seller friendly the merger agreement was when he signed it to get twitter to agree to sell on the company right and all this stuff he wanted about the bots like here's here's the big winner and this is to understand it in order to be able to terminate the deal, Elon cannot himself be in breach of the contract. Right? Right.
Starting point is 01:53:26 That was part of the deal. And there's a clause that says Elon had to use his best efforts to consummate the merger. That's how that works, right? When you sign a merger agreement, basically what you're saying is, I will do everything I can to get this over the line, get the regulatory approvals, etc. So they have text messages of Elon saying, hey, let's slow this down. Wouldn't be smart to buy Twitter if World War III is coming after the merger agreement is signed. That's breach. It doesn't matter what Twitter said or what Twitter did. Elon can't terminate.
Starting point is 01:53:52 There's so many ways in which this is GG. Twitter's going to win this lawsuit. But I don't want Elon to win. I want Elon. I mean, yeah. Actually, no, you're right. Exactly. I don't want Elon to win.
Starting point is 01:54:03 I want Elon to be forced to buy Twitter. Yeah. Right? That would be much better for us than the current management. So it's like we should be rooting for Twitter right now to win so that Elon ends up taking it and fixing it. Exactly. Yeah. But I mean, this isn't actually a close question.
Starting point is 01:54:17 There's a reason that the Twitter stock price has been jumping since Elon announced his quote-unquote termination. It's because most analysts have realized that Elon's probably going to lose. Thor says, if World War III kicks off, are you worried about getting drafted, Tim? No, I'm 36. It's going to be the 18-year-olds fighting this war, as per usual. Yeah, I'm old. Well, you know, a lot of the 18-year-olds don't have a lot of testosterone and don't have a lot of bone muscle mass.
Starting point is 01:54:42 And if you look at the conscripts in Russia, a lot of them are on the older side. So it depends on how desperate the situation is. I do see the future wars being fought with robots, but with enlistment at an all-time low, I do see, yeah, 30-year-olds, 40-year-olds possibly even being drafted if there's a potential crazy situation.
Starting point is 01:55:04 Ashborough says, Power is out here in North Carolina. Generator is going and my awesome wife, who I love dearly, is half asleep leaning against me. Not a bad way to end the night. Man, that's crazy. Hurricane Ian crosses over Florida, just wreaking havoc, and then curves and goes back into South Carolina. That is brutal.
Starting point is 01:55:20 When I was meditating on it, I was like, I'm going to disperse this thing. And then so I tried to visualize moving the wind in the opposite direction to make it push to a standstill and then like vacuuming out that center eye or hitting it with lightning or something just charging it or deep discharging it and it stopped i was watching the the radar and it paused for a moment but i wonder if i just pulled it back like a slingshot by doing that not committing to the you see what happened was it was crossing here's florida and it's crossing over and then you were like go the other way go the other way and then it turns back and it's south it was right before it made landfall in florida you can see for a moment right before it hits it stops and starts to go west and you're
Starting point is 01:55:55 like whoa did we just avert catastrophe and then it goes in hard and then it comes back around like a boomerang wicked it's brutal stuff man it is unfortunate david troutman says never got a response from my emails about building the tim caster guitar ready to buy these meteorite pieces and dragon scales got to replace the the fender behind you uh yes um send an email to i don't know i have an email on on the website so go to the website and you can look up my email. There you go. Easiest way to do it. And then email me about it. STL Phone Fiction says your cat isn't drinking enough water. That's his problem.
Starting point is 01:56:33 He's got more than enough water. Not only do we have numerous little water things for him, we have two water fountains that filter the water and then we even turn the sink on for him. Cats don't really like drinking water. That's the thing about cats. They don't actually need that much moisture, and they like to get it from their food. We give him all of the best possible food, and instead he just wants to eat squirrel.
Starting point is 01:56:54 Right, because it's moist. No, we give him the moist crazy stuff. Oh, you give him the canned food? We have fancy canned shreds. We have all the different food, and we're like, which one do you want? And then he looks at you, and he goes, ah. And then we're like, which one do you want? And then he looks at you and he goes, and then you're like,
Starting point is 01:57:07 I don't know what that means. And then he goes outside and he gets a squirrel. It was funny because he was killing, he was eating baby bunnies for a while and we were making fun of him
Starting point is 01:57:16 because we were like, it's so pathetic. It's like you're an adult cat. He's working up to it, okay. Well, he still can't catch an adult bunny, but he got squirrels. So, but we,
Starting point is 01:57:24 you're not like, nothing we can do about it. He's not supposed to, but that bunny but he got squirrels so but we you're not like nothing we can do about he's not supposed to but that's who he is he's a little predator he just wants to kill you know it's it's it's in him oh cats are predators we we didn't let him outside for a while and the vet was like don't ticks all that other stuff and he was obviously depressed he would just lay and sleep all day and he was getting fat and he was just groaning. And then we were like, this is no way to live. You know, it's like maybe his life will be more dangerous, but that's life. So now we let him go outside and now he's a happy little little jag off. And when we don't let him outside, he pisses on the floor.
Starting point is 01:57:57 So he's figured it out. Those damn taxoplasmy spreaders. Taxoplasmosis. What do we got? Tim McDonough says says just finished watching hocus pocus 2 here's the breakdown one trans adult one trans kid five drag queens one gay interracial couple one patriarchy reference i still don't know what the movie's about hocus pocus well yeah you've never seen the first one no that bett midette Midler movie? Yeah. Oh, God. No way. I'm good. No, is it good?
Starting point is 01:58:30 No, but millennials are nostalgic, so they pretend like it is. Oh, okay. Yeah. And Bette's all right. She's a good actor. It's like the witches want to live forever, so they have to eat a kid, I think. Checks out. Oh.
Starting point is 01:58:38 Is that what it is? They eat the kid? I have no idea. But it was campy? Was it like a Disney movie? Yeah. So they didn't want to really eat the kid? Like he wasn't like, ah! Ripping him open or anything like that?
Starting point is 01:58:47 They turn the kid's brother into a cat, but the cat's immortal. So like whenever the cat gets run over, it just reinflates or something. Brutal. Yeah. And it can speak English for some reason. Like the witch just turns a cat, a person to a cat, but like lets them still speak English for whatever reason. Okay. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:59:05 I guess people like it. Whatever. I don't think I'm going to watch the, I don't think I'm going to watch that movie. Jeff, the handyman says, gas is back up to 525 in Washington. Well, congratulations. Washington, you already put your so.
Starting point is 01:59:17 $8.80 or something in California. You guys see that picture? Is that real? That's right. What do we got? Porkins Hold hold it says this war with russia and china has been going on since 2019 hack of solar wind under trump administration china 2020 release of covid funding blm rights fentanyl illegal immigrants buying and sitting in farmland i mean some of those things we just don't know for sure, right? So figure it out, I guess. I don't think, yeah, the China COVID stuff,
Starting point is 01:59:50 I don't think was an intentional release. Lab leak makes sense, because I don't think you would have seen U.S. interests in China working together if they were at war with each other. No, lab leak makes sense. It's also why our, you know, why did we poo-poo lab leak so much?
Starting point is 02:00:01 Because our government was implicated in that too. I don't believe in accidents and incompetencies when there's so much criminality out there. That's like the fundamental difference between you and I. You believe in... Sinister... You attribute to malice what I attribute to stupidity. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:00:16 Thor says... And we both could be right. You are not too old to be drafted. I am unless they increase the drafting age like they did in Russia. So that's a possibility, but yeah, I'm still not worried about it. I just, I just, I'm not worried about it. I think if it came to the point, that point, it would just be absolute breakdown and chaos in the United States. The political system of this country is so broken as it is. I just don't see that happening. But my friends, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends,
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Starting point is 02:01:25 there's a big antitrust bill yesterday that passed and should have gotten a lot more Republican votes. You only got like 39, but IAP's been pushing for it. Heritage has been pushing for it. Lots of good stuff for big tech or bad stuff for big tech. Good stuff for us on the horizon. You're amazing in those cartoons.
Starting point is 02:01:41 An honor. Thank you so much for being here. LukeUncensored.com is my website. I did a very interesting video on the larger agenda yesterday. It's in the members area. I will be doing another AMA on that platform soon. You can be a part of it on LukeUncensored.com. And thank you so much for everyone in the chat room calling for the Luke Lear milkers. I appreciate it very much.
Starting point is 02:02:03 If you guys want to get involved with taking control of your life and reality, learn Russian as well. You can go to where I went last night, which is Russianforfree.com and start there. It's actually very interesting when you start to learn something that a lot of people on earth already know. It feels like you're coming home. There's a sense of like you're supposed to know it. It makes a lot of sense. You understand why people think the way they think all of a sudden. And it's a very awesome feeling. You understand why people think the way they think all of a sudden. And it's a very awesome feeling. I hope that you get a chance to do that and take care of yourself this weekend.
Starting point is 02:02:32 For sure. Well, thanks, everybody, for joining us this evening with Will, our good friend. You guys can follow me on Twitter and Minds.com. It's Sarah Patchlitz as well as SarahPatchlitz.me. All right, man. It's been a great week. We've got some fun weekend plans. So thanks, everybody.
Starting point is 02:02:48 Wait, Tim, Tim. Before we end it here, I said I was done. I'm not really done. Wait, I've got to show you guys this. What's he doing? No, no, no, no.

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