Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #633 Russia MISSILE STRIKES German Embassy, Trump Warns WW3 Is Coming, AGAIN w/Drew Miller

Episode Date: October 11, 2022

Tim, Ian, Luke, & Serge join Dr. Drew Miller to discuss Russian airstrikes hitting the German Embassy in Ukraine, the current era of nuclear weapons, the United States' involvement with Ukraine creating biological weapons, NASDAQ hitting a two year low, the United States continuing to build fallout shelters for the elites of the country, & PayPal's stock plummeting after backlash over their new censorship policy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. The big news over the weekend. The bridge to Crimea from Russia was bombed. Now, the mainstream media, they're saying, we don't know who did it. Some reports are that obviously it was Ukrainian military of some sort. Why wouldn't it be? Why would it be anybody else? Unless you want to argue there's a third party trying to instigate war, it makes perfect sense that Ukraine is going to try and cut off Russia from Crimea and try and take Crimea back. In response to this, Vladimir Putin launched 84 missiles peppering in the entire country. About 40 of them, at least the reporting I saw, were intercepted. Several of them landed.

The most worrisome, of course, was the German embassy being hit by the Russian strike. So obviously now there's concerns over escalation. Germany is going to be sending in some kind of missile defense. Joe Biden has promised some kind of missile defense. So I don't know, World War Three. Donald Trump is warning about it again, saying that we need to stop this now. We need to negotiate. He's offered to help in the past that we may be entering World War III and we have no time

to waste. Now, back on the domestic front, we have big news that I have to address, and that's PayPal, because you may have seen the news that PayPal launched this policy where if you engage in hate speech or misinformation, they can fine you, charge your account $2,500. They quickly backtracked after Elon Musk and some other PayPal, a former president of PayPal, called them out and said everyone should just shut their accounts down. I think PayPal got hurt by this because we can see on our end, the people who still use PayPal, even though we've gotten off the website, we've lost a decent amount of users. And we're getting emails from people saying that's it,

the final straw, they're switching over. We're going to talk about that story. PayPal is backtracked saying it was an error. There are some documents, archives suggesting it wasn't and that they're just panicking. It's backfiring. But I will say this before we get started, head over to Timcast dot com, click the join us button and then click become a member, choose whatever number you want to click. And you will see that we have parallel economy. Parallel economy was co-founded by Dan Bongino. We got PayPal off the website a long time ago. We did this because we knew they were censoring people and they were going to escalate their ESG social credit score BS. I'm glad we did. And I'm glad as many of you as possible moved over. Now, what we didn't do is we didn't discontinue PayPal. For those that are legacy members of the website going back almost a year now and are on members with PayPal,

your memberships are fine. But many of you, I noticed, have been canceling. We hope that you come back and sign up using Parallel Economy. And for those that still use PayPal, you can switch over. It's not super easy. You may have to actually just cancel your account and re-sign up. And that's if you used a guest account with PayPal.

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Support our show. And two, support Parallel Economy. This is Dan Bongino, co-founded this company. If we can get more and more users onto Parallel Economy, help them expand, grow, and become a bigger portion of the market share, then we can actually push back against these ESG garbage corporations. So that's one way to do it. Now, let's talk about what's going on. Joining us today to discuss World War III, Russia, nuclear weapons,

is actually somebody who has a PhD in battlefield nuclear warfare, I think. Is that it? Drew Miller? Correct. Dr. Drew Miller? Yes, Tim. My PhD from Harvard was on underground nuclear defense shelters and field fortifications for NATO troops. So it's the topic today, but I wrote it decades ago. And even then, it was politically incorrect to talk about the limited use of nuclear weapons. And we saw this again on Thursday when President Biden said that, you know, I can quote him here, I don't think there's any such thing as the ability to easily use a tactical nuclear weapon and not end up with Armageddon. And that's what the Democratic Party

has been saying for decades. But it's just not true. If Russia were to use a nuclear weapon on the battlefield against Ukrainian troops, we would be crazy as the United States to escalate that to a strategic nuclear exchange with Russia. I was reading the same thing. There was that quote that I mentioned where the guy said you'd have to be a madman to sacrifice Boston for Poznan.

So we'll talk about that, especially with the news pertaining to Russia, but you're also the CEO of Fortitude Ranch, full disclosure. I have a stake in Fortitude Ranch, but this is, what would you call it? Is it preparedness? Fortitude Ranch is a recreational and survival community. So in good times, our members can come out and use our shooting range and hike and enjoy the rural locations we're in. We're in five states now. But in bad times, we turn into a survival community.

Our members come out to stay alive and get out of cities and suburbs where if the grid is go down, I mean, if Russia does an EMP attack on us, our grid is toast. It'll be gone for over a year. And there's no municipal water systems. You will die in cities and suburbs. So our members will come to our rural locations where we're equipped to, you know, survive long term with food and water, but also

all our members have weapons, as well as our staff, so we can defend ourselves against marauders and survive anything. This is going to be really interesting. I'm excited for this conversation about marauders and survival. So thanks for coming. We also got Luke Rudkowski hanging out. Someone said shooting range. I'm all in. I'm very happy for this conversation. This is going to be a very important one. My name is Luke Rudkowski of WeAreChange.org. And today I'm wearing a T-shirt, which represents how war is a racket, showing, of course, the king and queens having dinner while, of course, the pawns kill each other off.

And that, to me, is the true reality of war. No one wins them except a special interest. If you like the shirt, you can get it on thebestpoliticalshirts.com. Because you do, I am here. Thank you again so much for having me. And hey, guys, Ian Crossland here. I had a couple of corrections from last week. At one point, I said that Alexander the Great and his band invaded and conquered Ursa Minor. It was actually not the Little Dipper.

No, no, they conquered Asia Minor, which is Turkey, Anatolia, things like that. And also I mentioned last week, Luke and I were talking a little bit about tactical nuclear weapons. I said that depleted uranium rounds are a type of tactical nuclear weapon because they have minor amounts of radiation.

But Drew, you were saying they're not classified as nuclear weapons. No, they're strictly conventional weapons. Got it. I just want to say, Ian, if we made a sci-fi cartoon about the future, about a guy named Alexander who gets a spaceship and goes and conquers Earth, a miner,

that'd be pretty epic space. Epic. Yeah, let's do it. And then technically you weren't wrong. That's right. Okay, let's retcon this. That's right. And many of you may already know,

if you tuned in on Friday, that Lydia is no longer with the program. She has moved on. She's going to be doing her own thing, and we'll shout her out when she's ready for that. But pushing all the buttons today is Serge. Hey, guys. Nice to meet you.

My name is Serge, a.k.a. The New Lydia. Pleasure to be here. Except that guy. Yeah, except I am a guy. Linda Jr. Yes. Nice hair, too. Linda Jr. Thanks. I appreciate it, guys. Glad to be here except except that guy yeah except i am a guy linda jr yes nice hair too linda jr thanks i appreciate it guys all right let's jump into this first story we've got from the jerusalem post russian strikes hit hits german diplomatic office in kiev report the german embassy in kiev was hit by russian airstrikes on monday german media outlet build reported however the building

has not been in use since the war broke out, the foreign ministry said. Russian-born journalist and political scientist, Sergei Yusumlemi, probably pronouncing that wrong, now based in Berlin, tweeted about the attack,

asking for Chancellor Olaf Scholz and other German officials to issue a response to the airstrike. So, okay, they've not been using it, but this is still, if this is the German embassy, this is German territory, right? So what does this mean? Does this mean that Germany is now going to use this as some kind of casus belli, declare war, or is it meaningless?

Well, specifically, it was their visa office, and it looked like a lot of these strikes weren't for their intended targets. There was one inside of a playground when Russia, of course, was making a speech saying that this was specific strategic attacks against the infrastructure of Ukraine. The German embassy isn't really infrastructure of Ukraine, but there's a lot of other things happening behind the scenes. I don't think Germany is going to be doing anything with this. I think Germany right now also is having a major bullet shortage. I think that also is something we should be keeping a close eye on. But there's a lot of other things happening with Belarus right now, with Poland telling their citizens to leave Belarus right now.

Poland is also checking their bunkers right now to make sure that they're up and running and that they're running properly. So a lot of other things are happening. And this is just episode one according to the former ukrainian president medvedev of many episodes to come when it comes to these larger strikes that russia is going to be launching on ukraine i will mention this from the reporting they're trying to make it seem like you know so germany condemns you know russia's actions in ukraine then all of a sudden there's an airstrike. One of the strikes happened at a German embassy.

And now Germany is set to deliver air defense system to Ukraine within days, according to the defense ministry. So Reuters reporting Germany will deliver the first of four IRIS-TSLM air defense systems to Ukraine within days. Well, there you go. That's it. I think what we've seen from NATO, for the most part, has just been acting like they're not involved, but basically supplying the overwhelming majority of weapons, strategy, intelligence, everything. And then you even have volunteers. Now, we do know last week, this was reported by The Intercept, that U.S. special operations are underway in Ukraine. So at what point is this just World War III? Well, there's a big concern that the escalation will continue. And it's kind of odd, but the worse it gets for Putin, the worse it really gets for U.S. security, because he's losing the war, clearly, doing poorly. Prospects aren't

good for him. So he's a desperate dictator, and he doesn't want to get killed off, knocked out of power. So he's got to change the situation. And to do that, he's got to do one of a couple things. He could use nuclear weapons in the Ukraine. I don't think it would escalate. I think it would destroy a lot of Ukrainian forces. But there is a risk that, you know, it could go to not just using them on the battlefield, but using them near the border where the supplies are coming in from Poland and

Germany and U.S. equipment coming in, that gets close to NATO territory and risks that we might get involved. But more likely, and I think more threatening for the United States, is Putin, if he gets into any nuclear exchange with the U.S., he loses from that. We would severely hurt him. We'd, of course, be massively damaged, but it would hurt Russia tremendously. So I think he's more likely to do something like release a virus clandestinely in the United States and West Europe, something that's not like COVID, but something like human to human transmissible avian flu, 60% lethal, highly transmissible. And at that point- 60%?

Avian flu, if a human gets avian flu, it's not directly transmissible now, but they have your tax dollars were used in gain of function research to develop human to human transmissible, mammal to mammal transmissible versions of avian flu, which is 60% lethal to humans. And if he releases that virus, and the way to do that was published in open source literature a decade ago. And so if Russia releases a human-to-human transmissible form of avian flu, it'll spread like mad. And at that point, who cares about Ukraine? We're trying to stay alive over here. It would be an absolute collapse situation in the United States. Already, who cares about Ukraine? We're trying to

survive over here. I mean, the economy's in shambles. We've got Biden. They're sending tons of money off to Ukraine. Most Americans can't even point to it on a map. And we're wondering why it is we are actively involved in a border dispute with Russia and Ukraine. I kind of have a little different perspective than you drew, just a little bit, because I think we're in this stage where not all options have been kind of used here. I think this conflict is going to be going back and forth. Now with the winter coming to Ukraine, a lot of the forces are going to be stalled. And I think it's going to be like that for a very long time. I think the concept of Kissinger limited perpetual war is something

that we truly face the reality of. And I see Putin having a lot more options at the table before going nuclear, before even going bioweapon, before even going full crazy madman, as people describe him in the media. Before doing that, I think there's other conventional weapons of war that he could release. There's other attacks he could do on the Ukrainian infrastructure. And I think he's going to be using those methods first, even though the threat of nuclear war is serious. But I think it's less probable than a more aggravated, bigger escalation on the ground, from my perspective. I don't think Putin's yet begun to fight. I think what we've seen, it's like ground forces in the east. Now with these

missile strikes over Ukraine, I i think if putin wanted to he could unleash substantially more destruction on the country if he really felt he had yeah like what we did in afghanistan and iraq was nowhere near even an inkling of the capability we had destruction because we didn't want to destroy it we wanted to conquer it and he doesn't want to destroy ukraine he wants to conquer it or at least eastern ukraine yeah well general petraeus was on recently saying that you know he he thinks thinks that Russia's in an absolute no-win situation there, and it's getting worse for them. And I tend to agree with that assessment, that Russia has clearly lost this war in a conventional fight. Them mobilizing isn't going to do anything near term,

and their troops just are not motivated for understandable reasons. They're not defending Russian homeland. They're not defending Russian homeland. They're invading another country. And so the situation is bad for Putin. It's also horrible for him on the home front. Bad things are going on there. So I think he could now already be in a desperate situation. But he's not going to be desperate.

He's a smart, ruthless, evil man. So he's not going to do something desperate like launch a nuclear strike on the United States. That would be incredibly stupid. He is not stupid. He's brilliantly ruthless evil. So what I think he's far more likely to do is release a clandestine bio attack on the United States. That's the smart thing to do.

What's the over-under for small tactical nuclear weapon? What's the betting odds, in your opinion, for this bioweapon? What do you think is most likely by percentage? I think Putin, the smartest, most effective thing he could do would be to get a distraction that takes Ukraine off the map and gets our support, both the U.S. and the Western European support, eliminated quickly. And what he did over the weekend,

well, he's got now more Western arms coming into the Ukraine. That doesn't really help him. Doesn't change the bad military situation for him. He needs to knock us out of providing support to Ukraine. And our politicians aren't going to back down. That would look bad. It's too much comparisons to Chamberlain in World War II. So he's got to do something different and drastic. And the way to do it is a clandestine, again, not an overt, but a clandestine release of a bioweapon. And they've absolutely got all kinds of viruses, smallpox, you name it, they've got it. So they released it over here. And, you know, we are not going to be sending arms to Ukraine. Certainly going to do more military forces into NATO. If we're dealing with a pandemic that's killing off our population and worse, it's unleashing loss of law and order as people are

trying to survive. And you've got massive marauding going on across the United States and millions dying from that. How do you, if Putin were to release a virus, what's to stop Russia from getting hit by it? Eventually it would spread, would spread a lot more slowly if they release it over here. Not a whole lot of air flight going into Russia right now from the United States or Western Europe. They're already effectively isolated. And the other person who could do this is the North Korean dictator. He's another person. He's at the bottom rank of effective, good places, powerful nations. If there's a pandemic worldwide, great place to be would be North Korea. You don't have international travel. Everyone else now gets destroyed. We could lose most of our population, Western Europe,

most of that. Everyone else comes down in power and prestige. And North Korea now isn't so much at the bottom. They're a country that survived the mess. I'd rather prestige and North Korea now isn't so much at the bottom. They're a country that survived the mess. I'd rather be in North Korea than South Korea when there's an international pandemic of avian flu spreading. But what people sometimes don't take into account is clean water, the ability to wash yourself with soap and clean water and how that can help you overcome a disease. So like people in North Korea that are literally sometimes eating other people because

they're starving might be end up being much sicker from a disease even if it's there's less of a load in the environment because they don't have access to the same kind of treatments that we do. Correct but if that virus kills off most of South Korea and North Korea can evade it they can now take South Korea after the virus has died out when the people are dead in South Korea. Is there anything you're seeing from an intelligence report that suggests that there's a probability that this is going to happen? And again, what's the probability from zero to 100 that you think this is going to happen? Well, I'm a former intelligence officer, so nothing I say tonight will be a release of classified information. In terms of probability, I mean, Nassim Taleb wrote the most

important, valuable book I've ever read in my life, The Black Swan, The Influence of the Highly Improbable. And he trains you not to talk in probabilities. How can I talk about the probability of something that's never happened before? There's no statistical evidence for me to use. So it's, you know, it's expert guesstimation is the honest term for it. But, you know, you can reason from people and from past situations. And Putin, former KGB agent, an absolutely ruthless man, you know, he knows about the power of bioweapons. They've had them in the Soviet Union. Their biological weapons program in the Soviet Union had like 60,000 to 80,000 people working in it. They developed all kinds of agents. And we in the United States

continue to do, as I said, gain of function research where we demonstrate it and then publish the results on how to create a mammal to mammal contagious, we were using ferrets, version of avian flu, 60% lethality. And we published it. So everyone all over the world, if they want to know how to do it, they've learned it. So he's got the ability to do this and it's a smart thing for him to do. And then if he does it clandestinely, he doesn't get punished.

But we also got reports that Putin was allegedly terrified of COVID and that he kind of insulated himself away from other people. The way Russia kind of handled COVID, I think would also have an impact on that because they didn't really do that good of a job. They did have very strict lockdowns and mandates.

They didn't really work just like anywhere else. Do you see that kind of playing into this larger decision? And we don't have to get into, you know, obvious intelligence reports and classified information. But do you think it's more likely than a small tactical nuclear weapon? I think a limited use of battlefield nuclear weapons is a highly likely thing. And I think release of a virus is highly likely. Both of them. There's no way for me to estimate the probability.

I'm not even sure Putin would know at this point unless he's already made the decision and issued the order. What would battlefield nuclear weapons look like? What's an example of one and how would it play out? Sure. Well, a battlefield nuclear weapon, I distinguish between battlefield use, theater use, which is more like a longer range strike into, for example, the eastern parts of the Ukraine near the border of Poland, for example. But battlefield use is limited to attacking other combat troops. It's probably going to be an airburst, not a ground detonation. They don't want the fallout coming into the Russian territory. But you can do a low yield.

It could be less than a kiloton. For example, Hiroshima is about 15 kiloton. It could be one kiloton. It could be less than a kiloton. We gave up. We unilaterally dismantled and destroyed our tactical battlefield nuclear weapons back in 1991, the first George Bush president. It got nothing in

return. Russia kept theirs. China's kept and expanded and modernized there. They still have them. So they could absolutely annihilate Ukrainian ground forces. But why isn't he? Why is Putin not yet using low yield nukes to just clear the field and take the land? Because he hasn't been in a desperate enough situation thus far. Once you do that, you know, it's, it is an escalation, there is a risk that, you know, potentially, you know, well, I'll give you one example. Once this happens, and he gets away with it, I think he would get away with it, the US is not going to respond with a nuclear attack on Russia if they do a nuclear detonation in Ukraine.

That would be insane for President Biden to do. He would not do that. So if they do that and he gets away with it, now what's going to happen to nuclear nonproliferation? Because we've told all our NATO members and Japan and so many countries, we will protect you with our nuclear umbrella. And it's not believable. It's never been credible. And this will prove that it's not believable. It's never been credible. And this will prove that it's not credible, that we will not use nuclear weapons, most likely, even to

defend our allies in Ukraine, you know, thus far is not a NATO member, not an ally we have to defend. I've been saying basically this for a while. And I've had a lot of people argue, people argue with me that I said mutually assured destruction is just, that's not true. This idea that, I suppose the idea is if Russia decides to nuke DC, then the US will fire back at Moscow or something like that. But what I was saying is that this idea that the use of nuclear weapons in general results in everyone just firing nukes and blowing everybody up. In fact, there's one really obvious reason why NATO will not nuke back in the war. The war is in Ukraine. Russia's invaded the eastern region. Putin can fire nukes into Ukraine anywhere he wants and cause as much

damage as he wants because he's trying to take it. NATO does not want to destroy Ukraine. They're trying to push Russia out. So theoretically, if Russia moves too far into Ukraine, say in the eastern region, then maybe they'll use nukes there, but they'd be effectively losing by doing it, cutting off their nose to spite their face. Well, a couple of things I worry about here is that we're in a desperate situation. I think the Russians in some instances are desperate. I think the Ukrainians are also desperate here, and they know that they're facing a lot of very tough odds here. They have a lot of support, but at the end of the day, Russia still has a lot more manpower.

Russia still has a lot more bullets, even though there's a lot of countries sending them bullets. Germany has a bullet shortage. I think this is more significant than we're, that of course is not being talked about here. I think in this desperation, we shouldn't rule out the possibility of someone staging an attack or staging an incident that would escalate the situation and possibly get other countries involved here. Right now, we have Belarus do a joint military task force with Russia. They're mobilizing on the Ukrainian border. They've been mobilizing for a couple of months now. But I think we're in a situation where the history of previous world wars is rhyming. And what happened then was other countries got involved. And I think there's a big possibility that Ukraine in their desperation or Russia in their desperation could stage an event that could be the galvanizing event that could launch a bigger conflict here that would move beyond this proxy war between Russia and the United States.

Do you think that's a possibility? It's absolutely true that that could happen. But people like to make comparisons back in history, as you mentioned, back to World War II. And Hitler didn't have nuclear weapons, nor did he have biological weapons or the ability to release them in the United States. Putin does. So you've got a corner dog, a guy who's desperate, wants to retain power, and we should not be provoking him. I'm glad to support Ukraine if we can, but we should not be pushing Russia and Putin, a desperate man, into a situation where he feels like the only way I'm going to stay alive and stay in power is to knock the U.S. and Western European support out of Ukraine. And I do that either with

escalating with nuclear weapons, which is really risky for me because they could eventually retaliate with nuclear weapons against me, or I could be smart about it and just release a biological agent that starts a horrible pandemic in the U.S. and West Europe. I think you'd do the latter. Now, I just want to talk about this biological agent because, you know, you bring it up a couple times. In the 1957 to 1958 avian flu pandemic, that killed 2 million people. And they say it's not as effective as a bioweapon because the host usually dies and transmission is less likely when we have such a very strong virus. Do you have any counter evidence or is there a new type of thing that you know about from your work in intelligence that says that this is going to be different than the 1957, 1958 avian flu

pandemic? Sure, that's a very low lethality virus. I mean, it's worse than avian flu, but you're talking about like 1% lethality. For example, the so-called misnamed Spanish flu back at the end of World War I, 1919, 1920 timeframe, that was like a 1.5% lethality rate. Avian flu is way less. I'm sorry, COVID-19 is like way, you know, it's 0.001 lethality, very, very low. But avian flu, as I said, is 60% lethal. Now, when you modify it, you may get a different lethality rate. It may be a lot lower. It may be higher.

I don't know. You're changing the virus. Yeah, but the question I have is if people are getting it and dying right away, the virus won't spread as fast. Correct. Viruses, generally, it's better for them not to be too highly lethal. You kill off all your hosts. But again, it's... Well, it's really simple. I mean, gain-of-function research, you get a virus, you get something as lethal as an avian flu, but you engineer it to have a two-week

delay in symptom onset. That's the worst. That's the third thing. I mean, I've been talking about transmissibility and lethality, but Tim, you just brought up the third really bad thing. If it's got a latency period where I'm contagious, I'm spreading the virus, but I don't have any symptoms yet, then you're really, really screwed over. We were talking about this last week that, you know, look, nuclear weapons, the advent of which was over 80 years ago. You get this report published in 1938. I can't remember who shouted that out. Was that Will who mentioned that? 1938 on the scientific paper on fission. And then all of a sudden, everybody gets the idea like, you could make

a bomb with that. And then finally we did. And what was the it was a fat man. It was like a 15 kiloton bomb or something like that. The name of one of those was fat man. They're both about 15, 20 kilotons. That's nothing. 15, 20 kilotons. That's nothing. 1520 kilotons.

Nothing compared to the nukes that they currently have today, especially with Mervs when they have multiple warheads. But bringing that up. I mean, this is old technology. You'd have to imagine they've developed different and new capabilities in modern warfare that we don't know about and we won't know about until they do. I think fair point. Biological weapons seems to be the route to take.

Yeah, who knows what Peter Daszak and the CIA are doing with Echo Health Alliance with Dr. Fauci's funding still as they got funded again. But I think there's also another important aspect. You know, viruses usually don't spread well without any kind of symptoms. Sneeze and coughing is how viruses usually spread. If they develop something new, I don't know. But this would be end of the world. You launch a bioweapon it's going to affect everyone through the food supply covet was found in ice cream and it can live in animal fat you

got to watch out for food just from my assessment my research I I do think smaller escalations more attacks on on the infrastructure in Ukraine and I think you know a bigger all-out war and and potential false flags are more of a possibility than bi-weapons from my perspective in my opinion yeah yeah but hold on we're not like i i don't know if this is what you're saying but my view is not that putin right now is just like flu no he goes with artillery he goes nuclear artillery he goes tactical nukes in the event of total desperation when when with US involvement getting too heavy, and his conventional methods not working, and his escalation not working, I think I would agree

that someone, maybe it's Putin, maybe it's not, someone's going to try and knock out the US economy, either by, you know, well, I would assume a clever way to hit the United States clandestinely, as you mentioned, is a bioweapon. Yes. And if you remember back in March, the Russians were putting out propaganda saying, hey, the U.S. has these biological weapons programs in the Ukraine. And why in the world were they doing that? It made no sense. But they were talking about gain-of-function research and alleged that we were doing bioweapons work with the Ukrainians. This was going on in March of this year. With the Ukrainians. Correct. So he was trying to lay the pretext of, why would he do that? The only logical reason for the Russians to do that is because they're trying to set the stage for saying, hey, these biological weapons are coming

out. It ain't us. It's the U.S. and the Ukrainians releasing it. And so we were concerned about that. A lot was written on that and we pushed back saying, hey, this is nonsense. But why wouldn't the U.S. be doing it? Why wouldn't we be doing what? Building biolabs to make weapons. Well, we signed the treaty saying we would not use biological weapons in warfare. And I think we're following that. But I think it's very probable that people could do that and he could be doing it tomorrow.

Well, if you remember in Ukraine, the U.S. corporate media and political establishment first said, there's no bio weapons, there's no biolab facilities in Ukraine. And then the secretary of state under assistant secretary came out and said, there's medical facilities in Ukraine we got to get to immediately before the Russians get to. And everyone's like, yeah, we're doing research there. What kind of research gain of function research trying to take a virus and make it the most lethal, the most dangerous virus that we can in the name of science, even though many scientists argue that there hasn't been any gain-of-function done for any kind of scientific discovery, but predominantly done to have bioweapons out there. So when you look at the United States, Barack Obama banned gain-of-function research. Donald Trump, for some reason, allowed it to happen. And that's when Dr. Fauci, Peter Daszak, EcoHealth Alliance went to Wuhan, China,

and then started to do the COVID-backed coronavirus research there. Now they're doing it again under Joe Biden, but now they're doing it in Myanmar, Laos, and Vietnam. Again, Peter Daszak doing gain of function research on COVID coronavirus. I don't know if you heard of these, but this is something eye-opening. And, of course, there was also similar gain-of-function research being done in Ukraine as well. Well, let me for a second defend the gain-of-function research as I've already, you know, attacked it. But the reason we do it is also avian flu is naturally mutating all the time. Every virus does. And biologists have been warning us for a long time now, congressional testimony even saying avian flu will probably mutate to be human-human transmissible, even if

humans aren't screwing around with it, trying to deliberately do that. So that's why we're doing the gain-of-function research on avian flu. It is eventually going to develop, I mean, swine flu comes to pigs, develops, mutates. But we're not talking about that. So it's going to develop i mean swine flu comes to pigs develops mutates but we're not talking about that so it's going to happen so they're doing the gain of function research because we want to have a human human transmissible form of avian flu now so we can develop vaccines for it that's why they're doing that that's legitimate reason that could i could understand the argument for but that's not what they're doing they're doing coronavirus bat uh research that has no probability of ever uh realizing in real life because of natural

circumstances. Right. Yes. So I have this tweet from Tulsi Gabbard calling out Victoria Nuland saying, quote, Ukraine has biological research facilities, which in fact, we are quite concerned that Russian troops may be seeking to gain control of. We are working with Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach. So the issue now becomes trust. We have a quote from Victoria Nuland that there are biological research facilities in Ukraine that there was emails released from the Hunter Biden laptop, which were confirmed by the Daily Mail and the New York Post, that he was working on getting some funding, which went to, I think it went to a third party and then to these labs. I

don't think he was directly working with the labs, but, you know, now we're talking semantics. The question is, am I supposed to just trust the U.S. is the one not doing this? And Putin, of course, is the unrepentant evil who is doing it. Or am I supposed to look at this and just be like, it's war. The U.S. would be insane not to be engaged in researching advanced weaponry, defense systems, vaccines, or whatever. And why wouldn't Russia as well? And at the very least, why would I assume that they have these biological research facilities with dangerous pathogens, and they're not understanding that whether the intention of

the research is make a weapon, that weapons can arise from this. I mean, to go back to nuclear weapons, the 1938 paper on nuclear fission wasn't a paper on how to make nuclear bombs, but they saw and went, we can make a bomb with that. So the research they're doing here in Ukraine with these biofacilities, they could be like, hey, if we release that, it's a weapon, right? Yeah, I do not believe the United States is developing biological weapons. You know, there's a lot of people people like to spread conspiracy theories in government i was well hold on hold on let me

what's a weapon a weapon is something designed to be used to kill your enemy and i think we're doing gain-of-function research for legitimate reasons so we've got the bad virus so we can develop vaccines for it antidotes treatment, treatment methods, and understand it. So why do the COVID virus? states is not doing that. But see, you're arguing intent, and we can't read anybody's mind. So the question is, when Alfred Nobel, he's the guy who made dynamite, right? And then they called him the merchant of death. It was intended, I believe, for mining. You can put it and then you can mine. Instead, it started being used as a weapon, which was not his intention. Nuclear fission, same thing, was not intended to make a bomb, made a bomb out of it. If the U.S. has labs that are making dangerous pathogens, it's not a question of whether or not we can

argue the semantics over it's weaponized or a weapon or the intent was to make it a weapon. The fact of the matter is the U.S. has labs in Ukraine that are dealing with and advancing dangerous pathogens. Well, I don't know what danger, what they were working on there was a dangerous pathogen or not, but every country around the world has biological research, the CRISPR technology, the bioengineering technology, it's all over the world. There's no turning back the clock. The ability to either, by the way, I don't want to get into the details,

but the way to make avian flu is not a high-tech CRISPR technology. It's low-tech. Any unabomber terrorist, any small terrorist group could do this. You don't need high-tech biology stuff to make avian flu, mammal to mammal, human to human. Let me say this real quick, real quick, real quick. If a guy was making dynamite in his garage, would we say he's not making weapons? No, he could be using it for good or bad purposes.

We don't know what he's doing it for, what his intention is, but he builds a lab to make dynamite, he's going to get arrested and charged. It's inevitable that we are going to have pandemics. I had an article published in the American Interest back in 2016 called The Age of Bioengineered Pandemics and Collapse. Because we cannot stop this. It is going to happen. There's natural mutations, but there's so many people with this technology. It's so widespread, so relatively easy to do do that it is going to happen and experts have

testified before congress warning is going to happen but has congress done anything nothing just as they have done nothing about our electric system there was a congressionally funded emp study decades ago saying that our electric system is our achilles heel it's very vulnerable even even north korea with one inaccurate low-yield nuclear weapon, could take down the U.S. electric system for over a year. There's a documentary out right now called Grid Down, Power Up, that gives you all the explanation of how our electric system is a disaster waiting to happen that any enemy could exploit to take us down. And the estimate from that congressional study was that when the electric grid goes down,

and they're talking about an EMP event that takes out the transformers that take a long time, very difficult to replace, the estimate was you could lose 90% of the U.S. population dead. Not just because there's no electricity, there's's no food production there's no water systems also because people aren't just going to you know stay at home and you know quietly politely die they're going to go out to steal food and water to survive you'll have massive loss of law and order massive marauding and people are going to get killed their estimate was you could lose 90 of the population population. So Congress knows about that. They know about bioweapons threat. The Johns Hopkins biological experts have testified over and over before Congress warning about avian flu, warning about bioengineering,

but there's no votes in prevention and preparedness. They don't do anything about it. And so we're left in the position where there was another documentary by, I think it was Vice, called While the Rest of Us Die. So they've got Mount Weather. They've got Raven Rock, all these places they can survive, but the rest of us, there's nothing being done for us. It's not far away, Mount Weather. We're on our own. I have a million things I'm going to bring up right now that I have jotted down, so hopefully

I'll get to all of them. I think the United States military industrial complex would be foolish not to develop weapons that other countries are developing as well. I think the United States military industrial complex would be foolish not to develop weapons that other countries are developing as well. I think from a strategic point of view, it wouldn't make sense for the United States not to engage in this. You said a lot of the research is being done to help people to prevent and create vaccines. But the United States had an official biological weapons program where they weaponized anthrax, Q fever and many others previously before. Why would they stop now? What evidence do you have that they stopped? And as we previously, as you previously mentioned, you said that the United States is doing this to help people, this gain of function is to help people. But we just talked

about the COVID coronavirus. Why were they doing that research when there was no natural ability for that virus to be realized in human life? Why were they officially doing that project when there was no particular need for it? Well, let me do the first part. We have stopped developing biological weapons. We once signed a treaty saying we wouldn't, and our government is largely full of good people who do the right thing. We don't have a biological weapon.

I'm sorry. I have to push back on that. But number two, let me do number two before you... So the other number two thing is we have nuclear weapons. So if Putin does release a biological weapon against us and we know it's Putin, can prove it's Putin,

our response is we'll nuke the hell out of you. You can't prove it. That's... Well, we might be able to. No, I mean... But that's our policy. That's the other reason

we give up biological weapons is we have nuclear weapons. But we signed that treaty with Russia. If you use biological weapons against us, the logical use response is we'll nuke the hell out of you. Is the EU in any way working on biological weapons? Probably not. What if the U.S. – you're right, they are abiding by this treaty.

And so, in fact, the bioweapons research was happening in a country like Ukraine, which is not a NATO or EU member state. Soon to be. Our government said they weren't, and I do trust our government when they said the Ukraine was not doing a biological weapons program. What about chemical weapons? The Secretary of State, Undersecretary, officially launched that there's biological research facilities in Ukraine. Why would the United States not do that program domestically? Why would they choose a poor country that's known for corruption to do scientific experiments

that are known to be dangerous? That sounds the alarms to a lot of people who are saying this is circumstantial evidence that they're doing this biological dangerous research in their country not to have any fallout or responsibility here in the United States. This is the undersecretary.

This is the undersecretary of states. Let's make sure we hit the nail on the head with the semtech it doesn't leak in the u.s let's let's let's make sure we hit the nail on the head with the semantics here a bio bio dangerous pathogens are there that's what victoria newland said biological research facilities are there russian troops are trying to get in control of it there's dangerous pathogens they're at these labs all of that is according to the u.s government true and correct now whether or not you want to argue it's a weapon or not is the intent of the person behind it. And if you can't read their mind, what's the point?

Yeah, this is the thing about white phosphorus. They used the American military used in Fallujah in 2004. They called it an incendiary. They said the purpose of this weapon is to light up the battlefield so we can see people. But what they don't say is that the white phosphorus was also melting the skin of the civilians that it was lighting up. So they said, hey, our intention wasn't to hurt people. So it's not a weapon. It's just a lighting up mechanism.

Yeah, but it was also an incendiary weapon. So just because you call it research for prevention doesn't mean that it's not also potentially going to wipe out the population. I don't even care about the term research. If they are doing gain of function research, they are producing dangerous pathogens, period. Now, whether or not look like i mentioned alfred nobel was shocked to discover he was the merchant of death when his obituary was accidentally published was he an inventor of a powerful weapon i don't think that was his

intention and that's why he came out was like i gotta do this peace prize thing but again if somebody if a guy if the u.s government said we're gonna be doing we're gonna be built putting up a bunch of plants that build explosives we we would call that weapons research. Yeah, the word weapon is a pejorative. Right. Just call them explosives. Call them biological pathogens. Call them chemical agents.

But whether or not they're weapons is irrelevant. It's all attention-based. My point is, there could be someone in the U.S. government who says, hey, you know what? The U.S. government needs explosives for construction, mining, clearing debris. So we're going to create a bunch of factories that make a variety of explosives. That guy does that. The next guy comes in and says,

hey, you got a bunch of weapons here I can use. So we can argue about the definition of weapon, but the fact is the U.S. is making dangerous gain-of-function pathogens. If someone at any point decides to weaponize them, that'll be on them, but they exist and they can be weaponized. Right.

I think it's kind of similar to the situation in Lebanon when you had all the buildup of that fertilizer. The fact of the matter was it's a time bomb waiting to happen, waiting for a spark. I think no matter what, there still is fertilizer building up. There still is a situation that's arising. And it's only a matter of time

before something kicks off that causes, you know, a calamity, the worst you can expect. I just mean to say, it doesn't really matter if there's a person, you know, twirling their mustache being like, we're making bioweapons, because they are like, yeah, we're advancing dangerous pathogens. But don't worry, it's not for weaponizing. It's like, well, a bad person can get them, a bad person can get elected, a bad person can get promoted, a bad person can force their way in and then there's no i think you know i'm not trying to drag research i understand like you make a good point the gain of function has a real purpose the problem is that technology is neutral and bad people will do bad things so i don't like to jump out and be like they're making weapons as much as i'd like to say they're not making weapons no they're making dangerous things exactly it can be weaponized remember when they were like asad is

gassing his own people we need to invade you know come on guys keep your eyes open for putin is dropping new uh biological agents on his own people but he's doing it in ukraine first come on guys yeah i want to i want to i want to jump to this this i guess you can call it a story this tweet from interactive polls breaking nasdaq falls to two year low on monday minus 1.84 percent s&p lost 1.2 look at this picture i mean there's some green in there okay it's not as bad as that that image of when joe biden was raising his fists and then people put the collapsing market behind them all in red as that meme. That was a good meme. But we're at a two-year low now, and the stock market has dropped below

the levels it was at before Biden became president. So I don't want to make this one political. I want to make this segment talking about the collapse of the economy more personal for individuals. And ask you, Drew, as we are watching an economic downturn, we're seeing inflation, we're seeing gas prices now go up. My question is, if this trajectory continues, for whatever reason, be it the war or whatever,

what happens to the average person's life? So you as somebody who runs Fortitude Ranch, this recreation and survivalist community, you had to have done all the research in your middle of the class nuclear family, economy hits, what does their life look like? And how bad can it get? Well, you know, a lot of people are calling for the recession. So there could be losses of jobs coming, although thus far, that hasn't really happened, higher prices. But the thing that's really going to hurt people next year is food prices, not just because of normal inflation everywhere, but because of the lack of fertilizer since they come largely from the Ukraine and Russia, and we're not getting those.

And there's predictions of not just higher food prices, but in some parts of the world, you're going to have famine next year because food production is going to be way, way down. Sri Lanka, right? Food prices are going to go way up. And there have been other contributing factors, stupid government policies trying to stop fertilized use in some ways for environmental reasons. But the world is facing a bad famine situation next year, assuming something worse doesn't happen like releasing a virus this year. Or nuclear war or whatever.

So the average family, somebody who I assume the average person, they don't really pay attention. You know, I was thinking we were talking about the war stuff. I was like, why don't people care about this more? Why are there so many people that we try and talk about? I don't care about war. You know, what's going on? I don't even know who that is. Ukraine, where is it?

And then I'm sitting here, you know, listening to Luke talk about the variety of things the U.S. is engaged in, what Russia is doing. And I'm thinking to myself, this is the kind of stuff that if you don't know about, one day it smacks you in the face. The war erupts, the food shortages, the food prices. For the people that have been paying attention and have done some degree of preparation, they're in a much better position. So with that in mind, let's say this escalates to hyperinflation. Let's say something bad happens. Let's say it's either a nuclear strike. Let's say it's a virus or something happens. The average person in the United States, what do you think their day is like when the grid gets hit or when gases are gone or what happens in the worst case scenario? Well, it's bad news for them. I mean, government's top priority is protecting government and that's

official policy. It's called continuity of government and any kind of disaster or collapse, your police protection will go down because number one, the priority is to protect the elected officials, the mayors, the governors, everyone else. So police normally doing patrols in your neighborhood, some of them will be called back to increase protection and care for government officials. I mean, you're near Mount Weather here. I won't give out your exact location, but you're not far from Mount Weather. I drove by there about a month ago. I can't believe all the construction going on.

Really? Mount Weather, huge construction. Whoa. And I Googled, and I can't find why. They've already got massive facilities, and they're expanding them for government officials. But there's nothing done for civil defenses gone in the United States, but there's nothing done for civil defense is gone in the United States, and there's nothing being done.

And the thing that makes me the maddest is there's not even the warnings. Government should be issuing warnings to people about situations like the coming food price jump that we're going to experience, the likelihood of famine because of, again, the Russia-Ukraine situation. And it just doesn't happen. There's not care for us. It's all about, you know, current issues and winning votes and, you know, debates that relative to life and death are trivial. All right. My favorite city in all this, New York City. What happens when the grid gets hit, when the food stops flowing?

It'll be, it'll be, there used to be a saying in the preparedness industry, you know, 48 hours to animal, you know, and 48 hours, it'd take 40 hours for people to realize how bad it's getting. And then they turn into their animal instincts, and they would kill to survive. I think it's more today, probably more like 48 seconds or 48 minutes to animal because people are aware now that when the grid goes down, for example, again, you ought to watch grid down power up documentary. When the grid goes down immediately, there is no water system flowing. So people are going to start filling their bathtubs. Everyone does that. So within five minutes, municipal water is gone. There's no fuel being pumped. If everyone starts filling your bathtub and there's no pumping going on, the system shut

down. So there's three days suit supply in an average supermarket. That'll be gone in the first hour or two. People are going to run to the grocery store. They're either going to pay or more likely they'll just start looting. And I think violence will start in the first hours, people stealing and potentially killing to survive because they're going to figure out, hey,

there's no way you can survive in New York City without an electric system or there's a bad pandemic. I disagree. We were there. Like, Luke, you were there during Sandy, right? Yeah. Yeah. The power was gone for like two weeks in like lower east side, I think. I think it was a couple of days out in the upper west side where all the rich people

were. Is that what it was, Luke? It was like 72 hours or something? Yeah. Staten Island got hit really hard and parts of lower Manhattan got flooded as well as some parts of Brooklyn. And it wasn't calamity. It wasn't too crazy. I did a clean up in Staten Island.

A dude's boat was on the street. It was nuts. The issue was that they could still bring food in. There was still gas. There were still cars. That's localized. I'm talking about a national loss of the electric system, a national pandemic that's all over the place. So this is what I mean to say is when people

have faith, the government exists, aid is coming, they're chill. But if something happens where people, their confidence has to be rocked. So my view is, I don't know about the first hour. I think a lot of people, the smart people, maybe not even necessarily smart, but the more cutthroat, they're going to go out and they're going to get whatever they can as fast as they can. I think most people in New York are going to be looking around confused and just shrug. I got to tell you, man, I love telling that story of when I worked for Fusion and the fire alarm went off and everybody just sat around staring at it. As soon as I got up and left the building and then people only left the building when the fire department actually ran in with their gear. That's the average person.

The grid's going to go down. They go, oh, the power is out. I got to tell you this. A second story. I was working for Fusion. And I'm in New York. And the power goes out. And the alarms go on saying, everyone remain calm and remain in the building.

And I was like, no thanks. And I left. I'm like, apparently there was a flood. There was a leak that hit something electrical and created a huge risk of fire. But they were like, no, no, no, everyone stay calm. Just just keep doing your thing. I'm not sticking around for that. I think what's going to happen in cities like New York, something bad is really going to

happen. And the average person doesn't read the news, doesn't watch the news, doesn't pay attention. And if they do, it's it's through really bad sources who are lying to them. And so they're going to sit there and they're gonna be told, hey, everybody, the economy is going to be fine. Just stay home for the day. A day goes by, the food's gone, the water's gone, the economy's gone, their money's worthless. These people are going to lose it.

They're either, I mean, most of these people are probably going to get the marauders going to come for them. These people don't seem the kind of people who are going to be able to survive. But some of these guys are going to just go around and become marauders. Poor NPCscs i don't know there's a lot of obese people in the united states i think they have a lot of extra fat that they're going to of course depend on and uh i'll think they're probably going to tivo american

gladiators or some sports balls and and then let their fat little you know whittle away and and start some fasting that that's not by their choice. But obviously, it all depends on, there's a number of scenarios happening. I wanted to ask you, Drew, from all your work, especially with intelligence, what do you think is the most likely scenario and situation, especially after coming out of COVID, that could lead to the worst case scenario?

What do you think is the most impactful, the most likely situation? Well, at Fort Hood Ranch, we actually track 50, we call them trigger events that could lead to a collapse. And the ones that we rate as, you know, ignoring Ukraine right now in the current situation, but overall, we rank a pandemic, a really bad pandemic is the most likely event that's going to happen. And, you know, we've had biologists warning us that we're actually overdue for a really bad pandemic. The influenza ones tend to come in cycles. We're kind of overdue for that.

And it's so easy to do man-made. And it's so likely that a country like North Korea or Iran, we're the great Satan to Iran. And again, will the virus spread back to the country it releases? Yes. But before I release the virus, I can develop vaccines clandestinely. So it won't hurt me when it comes back, or it won't hurt the people I care about in my country if I'm Iran or North Korea. Hold on, hold on. I disagree.

And I'll tell you why. Here's what I think would happen. Be it Iran, Russia, North Korea, China, or anybody, they will release the virus in their own country first but a weaker strain of it it will it will have a low mortality which will result in some death but most of the people will just get sick and then get over it stop giving them ideas no no this is not giving an idea this is what happened with uh spanish flu china many people uh there i was reading about the history like why didn't china get hit by this? In fact, they did before everyone else did. A weaker strain, but a similar strain, swept across China. Many of them got very, very sick. When the Spanish flu then emerges, I think it was in the United States, but then it was seen

in Europe with all the fighting. So that's how I believe how it got its name. When this starts spreading, it does make its way back to China, but they already had immunity to it from the weaker virus that had hit them. So I think what would actually happen is a smart country produces two versions, a very weak version and a very strong version. They give themselves the weak version first, then the strong version is released. So when it does come and hit them, mortality is minimal. But the point is this technology, this ability has never existed before in human history. It's out there now. There's all kinds of forms that could happen with. And, you know, the experts use the word inevitable. We are going to have these kinds of pandemics. But back to your question, Luke, it's not just pandemics. The other really big one, likely one, is our fragile electric system because it's vulnerable in so many ways. We've been talking about a nuclear EMP attack. In North Korea's nuclear weapons, this is open source.

This is some classified information. The Russians helped them, actually Soviets before Russia, helped them design nuclear weapons that are designed for maximum EMP effect. They don't have to be accurate. They go off in our atmosphere one or two, and the U.S. electric grid is toast at that point. There's cyber attack that can take down the grid. There's physical attacks, and they've been done. There was an attack out at a station in California, a very well-carried-out attack that destroyed the transformers there.

Is it cyber attack? No, physical attack. There's a lot of solar flares. Natural effects can take down our electric grid. That's, again, you've got to watch this documentary, Grid Down, Power Up. There are so many ways our fragile electric system could go. And when I say go, it's gone for over a year or more. And most Americans will not be alive if it comes back up.

We'll be dead. I think we've been hit by cyber attacks recently. And you just don't hear about it. There was one story. It was highly speculative. I know, I know. And you just don't hear about it. A lot of, there was one story. It was highly speculative. I know, I know. I'm just saying, just a thought. It was around the time that Donald Trump was an airstrike, was on its way to Iran.

Trump calls it off and says, no. Publicly, he says, I did not think that, you know, 500 people who would have died, the loss of life was worth what we would be retaliating for, something to that effect. However, around the same time that the US launches this fleet to go conduct an airstrike, a refinery in Philadelphia explodes. I asked some of my hacker buddies, what is the likelihood that in response to the US.S. engaging in a military operation, Iran used it, conducted

a cyber attack against a refinery, blowing it up. And we know they did it. So we backed off. It told me it was very, very low, not very likely, however possible, but just not at all likely. They all basically said, no, no, no, no way, no way, no way. Lottery tickets chance, but possible. Sure, I guess. So my thing is that was just one example of a scenario where I see this and I'm like, could it have been that they, the cyber attack blew up the petroleum refinery? So then Trump seeing that vulnerability cancels the attack, knowing it's going to lead to a greater escalation in cyber warfare. Maybe, maybe not. Again, I'll stress my expert buddy said they don't think that was the case based on how it went down.

But thinking about that, there have been many circumstances where we've seen various industrial facilities have fires start abruptly. And the answer is sometimes fires start. Are we hyper-focused on this and now we're assuming it's going to be a cyber attack? Or are we in a normalcy bias that we cannot see that we are actually under attack when we are? How would we even know? And then there's a lot more threats to the threat of nanotechnology, some new technologies we keep coming out with. You know, you were talking earlier about unintended consequences. A lot

of people working with nanotechnology are concerned about that. Elon Musk is always talking about artificial intelligence. And I think the artificial intelligence threat is very much there, but not in the normal way you see in a movie where the computer becomes, you know, thinking and evil. The bigger threat from artificial intelligence is some terrorist group or a nation, you know, North Korea has tremendous cyber capability, actually programming and releasing a virus, you know, instructing computers, maximize human death through the means you've got, that kind of a system of doing it. But there's many other sources that could lead to disaster beyond pandemics or a vulnerable electric system. Zombies?

Other new technologies. Don't have those on the list of 50. What's the under on zombies and Civil War? Civil War is a big one. And so I was just going to mention one other thing. Ray Dalio is, you know, it's either Nassim Taleb or Ray Dalio are probably the two smartest people alive I know of today. He's the founder of Bridgewater, the most successful hedge fund in history. Yeah, we got to get Ray Dalio on the show.

He'll be amazing on the show. So he has estimated recently there's a 30% likelihood of war with China in the near future. That's his estimate. He's a China expert. And he's also said he sees a 30% chance of civil war after the next presidential election. He says, you know, these are not calculated numbers. Back to your earlier question. These are guesstimates.

But he's a very wise man. His hedge fund, you know, makes it success based on trying to understand how the world is, how things are developing. So, again, on trigger events, 30% chance of a war with China. That could be a nuclear war with nuclear strikes on the homeland. And that leads to a collapse because our society is so fragile, so government dependent. And there's just a lot of bad people. And one other thing, I've never seen this anywhere in print or in the media, but a huge threat and vulnerability we face in the United States is the 1.5 million Americans in jail, one and a half million Americans in jail.

So when there's a pandemic, a 60% lethal pandemic, do you think guards are going to go to work? And they're not going to go to work. If the electric grid goes down, how do prisons work? I used to be a county commissioner. I've been in jails. Jails cannot function without electricity. That's how you control all the doors. It's all electric.

Will they open or will they stay locked? They are probably going to come open. I mean, there's generator backup. Hospitals will claim, oh, we've got generator backup. They've got backup for maybe three days at the most. That's a good thing. So you can have one and a half million Americans, most of them aren't bad criminals, but a lot of them are who are in jail and they have absolutely no preparedness. They've got no house. They've got no food. So when they get out of their jails, either released or they just get out on their own,

what are they going to do? They're going to maraud. It's the only way they're going to stay alive. They don't have a house. They don't have home and food and water. They've got to go out and steal from other people, probably kill them in the process to survive. And no one ever talks about that. Our government is not getting us prepared for events that experts say are inevitable. I disagree on the prison thing, though. Prisons would be one of the safest

and most secure places to remain. So if you're there, you've got a bunch of guys, you've already got gangs. So if there's no more guards, there might be a lot of infighting. If that is the case, the end result is going to be

someone who owns a fortress now. They may go and maraud, but they're going to use the prison as like a fortress base of operations and control it. And there's weapons in there. So they are instantly going to be armed, armored, and determined and have facilities. And it's going to be night. Look, I'll say it's worse than you're predicting. Prisoners will get out and go maraud. They're going to have a fortress base of operations with weapons.

And then, you know, they're going to go out and go on their patrols. And you probably, I mean, maybe you'll notice they're wearing prison clothes, but it's not going to matter. Guys with guns are going to come up and say, you work for us now. We control this massive fortification. So you can't even get to us if you wanted to. That's a worse scenario than I had imagined. Let me ask you about this, though.

You mentioned driving past mount weather and so i looked up this story from the from the u.s on ready for nuke armageddon inside doomsday bunkers designed by u.s government to withstand nuclear apocalypse and restart america in case of wipeout they say the u.s government built several doomsday nuclear look at these pictures why are? Why would they even show anybody? This is Cheyenne Mountain. Can withstand a 30 megaton nuclear bomb. Oh, OK. So you mean it can't withstand the Satan 2 missile?

What's the point? Thanks for telling us. I got to tell you, I see these videos. I'm sorry. I see these photos, these stories about Mount Weather. Am I really supposed to believe that Raven Rock, Mount Weather, these facilities are the legitimate facilities for our government when we all know they exist? And 30 megatons, is that it? Come on. So our bomber was 100 at full capacity. Not that they're going to get a bomber over it.

Yeah, but taking out an underground fortified facility is not easy. You have to have tremendously good accuracy. I grew up in Lincoln, Nebraska, 60 miles from Offutt Air Force Base Strategic Air Command headquarters, one of the top nuclear targets. And I remember reading one day that the accuracy of Russian-Soviet missiles was about 50 miles. Although that's great. They're going to aim it off and they're going to hit me in Lincoln. They're not that accurate. Now, that's improved a lot.

Our weapons have improved a lot. But when was the last time we even detonated a nuclear weapon? It's been about 30 years we got rid of underground nuclear testing. So for a nuclear weapon to go and take out something like Mount Weather, it would have to be very, very accurate. The weapon would have to have its full yield. And they're probably not going to have that accuracy. So I think they will survive in Mount Weather.

No, I'm saying they've got to have other bunkers we don't know about. Well, they have a lot of them. There's Site R. There's quite a few in Pennsylvania. Again, you guys are kind of in a bad place for nuclear weapons here. I disagree, actually. You've got David. You've got the Pentagon. You've got D.C. You've got Mount Weather. You've got Site R. They're not that accurate. So if they're aiming at them, they could end up landing on you. I think, well, first, before we get into the nuclear stuff, I wanted to ask you about driving past Mount Weather. They're doing construction there. Oh, a lot of it.

And that's above ground, and most of it's underground, so I can't imagine what's going on underground. So it's already been a huge FEMA facility for Congress. We've got to get some reporting on this. We've got to send somebody to go interview somebody. To get disappeared, you mean? To lightly request an interview. The government is very secretive,

especially about their other facilities that they don't talk about, that there's no pictures of, that there's no talk about. There's no talking about. There's a lot of underground facilities that the United States has been investing in. There's a reason the Pentagon has secret clandestine black budgets. There's a reason why so much money is missing from the federal coffers, because a lot of times they're spending it on a lot of top secret projects that are underground facilities that they have already implemented

that no one even knows about. Like black sites, yeah. And black, well, the black sites are in Egypt and Poland and other places around the world where they torture people, but that's a different scenario. I'm interested in Mount Weather because it's very close to where we are.

And so what's the gist of this? Can you tell us the basic, like, what is it? Sure, it's an underground shelter. FEMA defends it on the surface, and the military troops will be there as well. But it's a place where congressmen will go. It's fairly close to D.C., so they can whisk them off there. And they've got fantastic facilities. They even have media rooms, so the congressmen can continue to, you know, transmit to their constituents and, you know, not lose votes if there's another election, I guess. But they have fantastic facilities where they'll stay alive and nothing is done for the rest of us. You know, we're don't even give us warning.

Hey, you might want to do your own preparations. Things are kind of bad. Oh, no, no. It's just for them. The modern left mocks those who would be prepared for even a rainy day. It's amazing. We've got these hurricanes, these floods. But it is a joke.

It is common urban culture to mock preppers, to assume that anybody who's prepared in any way is some lunatic mountain man. When, you know, I was in Arizona a couple years ago, and I was during the toilet paper conflict. Everyone's fighting over toilet paper. I go to a gas station and some lady, you know, I said, like, how has it been out here and she's like this is the middle of nowhere arizona is like a weird little rest stop and she's like oh we're good we're preppers so we've got like three months with the toilet paper already so we haven't noticed anything and i started laughing and i was like you know what while they're all fighting in walmart over toilet paper they're making fun of you for having it isn't it's the craziest thing yeah well the image of preppers

and preparedness has improved a lot over the past couple of years. It was partly COVID-19, but it was really less COVID-19 than things like Portland and all the unrest that was going on. People saw how if people start protesting, start looting, police cannot stop it. I'm not criticizing police. There just aren't many of them compared to people. If a lot of people start breaking the law, start looting, start doing whatever they want to do, you cannot stop them. So people have realized that, you know, you really do need preparedness. People can get out of control, can do violence, and you cannot

put it down. There's not enough police or even military folks to do that. One of the funniest things ever was when the pandemic started and a bunch of liberals were lining up outside of gun stores to buy guns for the first time. And the best thing to emerge from it was the gun store. I think it was in California where they were like, the guy makes a video saying, stop complaining to me about why you can't buy a gun. You voted for this. You all voted for it. People come to the gun store thinking they can buy a gun and then walk out of the store with it.

And they can't. They got to come back three days later and they're freaking out. Like what? Why? Like there's a pandemic. There's no food. I need, I need to protect myself. Well, too bad you voted for it. That's why I like States like West Virginia, conceal a constitutional carry. You walk in, you got to fill out your federal background check. But, uh, you know, the first time you do it, I think everyone I've seen the first time they've tried, they've been held up a little bit for a day or a couple of days. But then after that, it's like you walk it, I think everyone I've seen the first time they've tried, they've been held up a little bit for a day or a couple of days. But then after that, it's like you walk in, you can get it, you can carry it right out, conceal it and whatever and take care of yourself and you can defend yourself.

So I feel like New York City is going to be, man, I don't even know. Any movie or any fiction has done apocalypse justice as to what I think would actually happen in a city like New York. In central Brooklyn, where in the first day when a collapse happens, nobody has any idea what's going on. They have food in their fridge. It starts running out. They go and look around. People are confused.

By the second day, all the food's probably gone, taken. Within a few days, anything that was perishable has perished. There's some canned goods left. And now people are really hungry and really thirsty and looking around wondering what's going on. So what? By then, the smart people have all left. And the people who aren't smart and have been confused this whole time, what, eat each other? Drink blood? Well, there is a much, much bigger and better awareness of preparedness in the US over the past years. I mean, that's absolutely clear. We cannot keep up with the demand. We get people every day emailing us,

asking for information, wanting to join, and we just fall further and further behind. We can't meet the demand. That's why Fortitude Ranch has started franchising now. We can't build enough to keep up, so we're franchising now. So if you've got a survival community or if you've got an RV park,

you've got a ranch and you think, hey, I could have a nice survival facility here. You can now build one, and we will help you do it through our franchise approach because we can't keep up. We also can't keep up with hiring. So we're looking for more folks. If any of you are interested in working on our staff or the staff of a franchisee, if you want to contact fortifioranch.com on our website, we're looking for more people. But we can't keep up with demand. And that's one of the points I wanted to make is the other reason why preparedness has had a bad image is that stupid show Doomsday Preppers, which made preppers look like idiots.

And the reason they did that is the first rule of prepping is don't tell anyone you're a prepper. You keep it a secret. You don't want people to know, hey, I got a lot of guns and food and ammo at my house. If there's a pandemic or the grid's down, they're going to come to your house or chicken either to bed. Yeah, you keep that confidential. So no one is going to go on a TV show and say, hey, I'm a prepper. Here's all my preparations. Here's what I've got. They only had idiots on that show. That show really hurt preparedness. Smart people are preppers. It's insurance. It's a life insurance policy not to pay you if you die but to keep you alive.

So our members are very smart people. They're largely professionals. Yeah, we've got a lot of former military. We have some intelligence officials. But largely it's business people and people who are smart and educated, and they don't talk about it. They keep it confidential. But the demand is growing, growing, growing, and we don't talk about it. They keep it confidential, but the demand is growing, growing, growing,

and we can't keep up, so we're looking for more staff and more franchises. How many government officials do you have contacting you for your services? And Guilty Pleasure, I really like that show that you mentioned because it was really fun to watch. Not strategic, but it was fun to see. Well, government officials don't need us.

Again, they've got that. I mean, even at the state level, you know, the state patrol provides protection for the government in the normal course of duty, and they'll do a lot more when there's a collapse. What about government employees? We have government employees. We have people from Homeland Security, from the Pentagon at our West Virginia location. Does it seem like there's more of them, more people work for the government than other sectors? No, most of our members are business professionals is probably our most common category. We have a lot of doctors now. That's the other thing COVID-19 changed for us

is the medical community really got hold of preparedness. Wow. It used to be as sometimes we would have our time getting doctors. And we had four doctors at Fort DeRanch Colorado. I don't need four doctors there. But a lot of them have joined since the pandemic. When you guys are franchising, how does that work? How do you get involved with someone that has space that wants to become a franchisee? Well, if they go to our website, there's information on it. But basically, we're going to provide you the training, the operations manual, help you design your facility, and make it possible for you to be part of the Fort Reed Ranch system.

And you will be part of our system because our system is, again, we're a survival community, but we're also a recreational facility. So you can be a member in West Virginia, but you can go to our lake property in Wisconsin. You come to a high mountain desert in Nevada, come to Texas, and you go to San Antonio and the attractions down there. It's a vacation place, too. So you have a home fort where your stuff is and where you try to get in a collapse.

But again, if you're a West Virginia member, but you're doing the Tim show out in California and the shit hits the fan and you can't get back to West Virginia, you can go to Nevada and we'll take care of you there. And a franchise would be the same way. You're part of the system. So your members have the right to,

they'd be home forting at your place, but they could use any of the system. So your members have the right to, you know, they'd be home-fortying at your place, but they could use any of the fortified ranch facilities. But if things get bad, you've got to go work in the field. Oh, absolutely. Our members understand that, you know, it's a vacation place. You know, come out, shoot weapons, have fun in good times. In bad times, we will work you very hard. Everyone will do guard duty, and we've got a lot of work to do.

We'll be cutting down trees, building our walls, improving our defenses, slaughtering animals. We'll be poaching massively. I mean, if you're a deer near us, when the shit hits the fan, we will be shooting you and making jerky out of you. So it's a lot of work. And then what about expanding the territory and seizing the land from the surrounding villages? Oh, we don't do that. We're strictly a defensive motion. We're not.

Steve, Renee, our CO has been on your show several times, and I know he's pointed out, we are not an offensive militia. We're not a militia. There are good militia groups, don't get me wrong, but we are not one. We don't do anything offensive. We defend our private property in a collapse. But let's say we're now five years into a collapse. The surrounding homes have all been abandoned. You got to have scout patrols go out and start looking for seeing what's going on. And, you know, I imagine you guys would not be offensive, but what if there's abandoned land?

Do you need it for grazing or expansion? Because now you got more people are coming or you've signed on more village members, I suppose. Or let's say it's even 15, 20 years. You're gonna have more people, more kids. You're gonna need to expand. Well, I actually haven't thought that through, to be honest with you. But you know, we're hoping that the recovery would start within a year or two, if it's a really bad pandemic.

And eventually, we're hoping that some law and order will return. But if not, you know, we'd have to deal with whatever it is. That's why all of our ranch management, we're former military officers and enlisted folks who have good background and good judgment. And then our membership is really well-educated, good people. So we've got a core of people, you know, 100-plus people at every location. So we could do whatever we need to do in a responsible manner to survive and then to recover after things improve. Two more questions about the franchising. One, it's for-profit, the company's for-profit.

Yes. And then if someone opens up a franchisee location, are they doing all the hiring and taking all the profits themselves? Or are you guys supplying the funds for them to do hiring? And then you take a cut of the profit. They're a private business. The only difference is, you know, unlike a typical franchise where, you know, your customers are kind of your customers, if you joined Forty Ranch, you're part of the whole system. That's kind of a key advantage we offer is, again, you may not be able to get back to your own fort. You may want a vacation, another location. So members are all in one system, but it is your property, your Forty

Ranch location, your business, you hire, you fire, you supervise. And then do you pay like a franchise licensing fee or something? Yes, there's a franchise fee to join and then a percent of royalties like any other franchise. Cool. But then when the apocalypse happens, you have a network. Correct. And so I'd imagine if, you know, one location is starting to suffer, the other locations can provide assistance. We'd be up on ham radio. So we've got our frequencies and times of day that, this time and this night, we're on this frequency so we can connect. So for example, back to the doctors we've got, I mean, we've got like, you know, at this time and this night, we're on this frequency so we can connect. So, for example, back to the doctors we've got. I mean, we've got like, you know, cancer experts at some place.

We've got OBGYN, you know, birthing doctors at another. But at night, mainly use HF radio at night with better bouncing off the signal. So at night, you know, the doctors can confer. So we can do that kind of system. In terms of physical assistance during a collapse, no, probably not. A 14- inch is pretty much going to be on their own you got to hunker down and there's probably going to be no outside contact i want to jump to this story did you have another question you wanted to ask you said no no

let's jump to the story from insider and get into the into the meat potatoes here this paypal story insider reports paypal falls after weekend blowback over misinformation policy that would have fined users $2,500. The stock fell 6% on Monday following the company's botched acceptable use policy update. The company faced backlash after its updated policy included a fine of $2,500 for a variety of things, but it included hate speech against marginalized groups and spreading misinformation. And it said at PayPal's sole discretion to determine, meaning they could just be like, you said the sky was blue. I disagree. Yoink, give me your money. So this resulted in PayPal coming out and being like, no, no, no, no. It was an error. It was an error. It was a mistake. So the first thing I want to say, because this affects us. Several months ago,

we took PayPal off timcast.com and we knew something like this was coming. We've seen too much ESG in banking institutions, too much censorship. We knew it was a huge vulnerability. So we signed up with Parallel Economy. When you go to timcast.com and become a member, the default option is Parallel Economy. Secondary option is Stripe. Stripe's okay. They're not perfect. Parallel economy is very, very good. They're not perfect.

But Dan Bongino co-founded this to be more censorship resistant. So many people chose to remain as members using PayPal. I recommend you guys switch over if you can. I'm not sure there's a seamless way to do it. If you, when you signed up, many people sign up as guests with a guest PayPal account. That means you just terminate your account at timcast.com and then re-sign up. But of course, that means you'll get charged 10 bucks again. So if you're in like the middle of the month, it's kind of, it kind of sucks. I guess I would say for those,

in that situation, wait until your month is over and then before you're charged next, cancel and then switch over or something like that. That would be that would be good. Or if you really don't mind a couple bucks, it does support us because we do use it to to, you know, obviously, conduct operations here at Tim cast. But this is bad. And I got to say right now, one trial balloon, I certainly think so. They probably would have ran with this if there wasn't a major backlash to it. And I think the other thing is just, well, I shouldn't say there's two things. Regardless of the first instance, the trial balloon, this will eventually become normal mainstream. They are going to implement this. They just did it with a heavy hand. So it's coming. Yeah. I mean, absolutely. And PayPal has been doing this for a very long time. They have been weaponized for the benefit of the political state for a very long time, including originally from when I remember organization that, of course, was sued successfully many times

for defamation and slander of individuals that they attacked politically. So PayPal does not have the best interest. I'm switching mine. I already switched mine to an alternative. I'm switching to more alternatives because the free market is where it's at. And PayPal has had a dominance in the space. Some people have said that they are a monopoly. I kind of agree with them because a lot of people have been politically shut off from PayPal and are unable to do a lot of banking online because of that larger target put on their backs artificially by PayPal. If anyone wants to know, Vanguard, BlackRock, and State Street own about 18% of PayPal. Makes sense. As they do with so many corporations that are public. What about internationally?

Do they have a lot of international interests? That's what I wonder. PayPal? No, Vanguard, BlackRock, and State Street. I don't know. Because I was talking to a real estate agent. We're obviously expanding. We want to do our brick and mortar shop.

And the guy mentioned something about financing for big properties like BlackRock. started laughing and i was like i don't want to go anywhere near those companies you know these these things they they do i don't maybe it wasn't black maybe it was a different maybe it was black stone stones doing the housing developments right right but then they're like uh but there were there were similar companies right they're related in some way yeah the one was a spin-off of the other yeah yeah what i see with this is you know we've been talking about nuclear war and everything what i see here is, I don't know if civil war is the right word, but some kind of, look, it's policies like this that after only one political faction, eventually you get some kind of disruption and fighting and destabilization in the United States. So I guess my question to you is, do you think that there is a potential with the expansion of these kind of policies into civil war or revolutionary kind of insurgency and fighting within the country? Again, we talked about Ray Dalio earlier, you know, earlier this year mentioning that he thinks

there's a 30% chance of civil war after the next presidential election. If it's close, especially the losing side may say, you know, I don't buy it. And especially if they continue to be so split in policies and philosophies. I mean, the U.S. is very much a split country. And so you could see, I mean, I'm in Texas now, and the Texit movement, Texit Leave the United States Succeed movement, is very, very big. It has a lot of support.

I mean, some polls show most Texans support getting out of the country. Wow. So you could see the country falling apart. It could happen. Now, would it be a shooting war? I have a hard time. Civil unrest, I can see. I don't see a civil war like our civil war. I just don't think the military would get involved in that. I don't think they would fight in something like that. So I don't see that kind of a civil war. But I can certainly see states like Texas. And, you know, I personally believe that the Constitution, in my reading of it, is that you don't have to, you know, you're not forced to stay in forever. And that's just the Supreme Court has tried to

make some decisions since then. But the Supreme Court made a decision in the mid-30s that basically said, you know what, screw the Constitution. Forget about the Tenth Amendment. Congress, you can pass whatever you want and spend on whatever you want. And the Supreme Court basically nullified the Constitution, at least the Tenth Amendment in the mid-30s. And then they proceeded to do other things. So there's nothing in the Constitution that says a state has to stay in the union forever. And Texas knows it.

There's movements elsewhere. So they could really take off after a bad contested election. And if they go, there's no forcing them back. And the really odd thing is I could foresee a country like Texas succeeding and then telling the United States, you know what, we're out of your stupid domestic socialism policies, but we'll stay alive with you. We'll continue to send Texans into the U.S. military and we'll be alive with you. And if the Democrats said no to that, the next best thing they could do

is Texas could go, you know what? Let's join the British Commonwealth. Seriously. We'll support the British military and we'll go back into the Commonwealth. The Commonwealth may be less of a bad fit than being with the socialist Democratic-controlled United States for Texas.

The UK is not doing too well on that front. They're about 10 times worse than the democratic socialist problems in the United States. Correct, but in the Commonwealth, they don't have to take their domestic policies. I'm just in their military. I'm talking about for military and foreign policy,

not for domestic policies. I don't know, maybe- Wouldn't that be ironic, though, to have some U.S. states succeed and go back and join the Commonwealth? I don't, that one it'd be ironic, though, to have some U.S. states succeed and go back and join the Commonwealth. I don't I don't that one seems like a long shot, but I do see a possibility of what people refer to as national divorce or peaceful divorce. But here's the thing about the PayPal stuff. It's a big example of how we're getting into this dangerous authoritarian period.

The fact that a financial institution would say we can take money from your business, from your account, regardless if you say things we don't like, that's nightmarish. At the same time, Stripe emerged, and now they're competing heavily with PayPal. Locals, which is now Rumble, uses Stripe. Parallel economy emerges. It is bad what PayPal is doing. They are powerful. They are dominant. but maybe these alternatives are inevitable. You know, when Facebook was engaging in all this censorship at the height of 2020 or 2018 and 2019 into 2020, a lot of people were saying, don't worry, an alternative will emerge eventually. And many have, but I also kind of think just Facebook is kind of just dwindling as it is with younger people and TikTok is getting picked up,

which is even worse. So I don't think there's always a solution in that the market will provide. But we are seeing, at least when it comes to PayPal, the market here hit them by 6%. Users are jumping ship. Maybe that's the white pill moment. That's the optimistic thing that as much as things are getting bad, this PayPal's backlash, I'll say this looks like a de-escalation in terms of all this stuff. Well, they reversed the policy, which speaks volumes. I mean, for them to come out with a bold policy saying that they're going to steal grandma's purse in the middle of the night as she's walking down the street is a pretty egregious move for the crime of wrong think. It's absolutely wild that they could try to justify stealing and theft like a government would from its citizens as a form of punishing people for thinking incorrectly.

And I think, yes, it's optimistic that they reversed it, but it's also pretty crazy that they thought that they could get away with this. That's another part of this that we need to understand here. They thought that this was viable. They thought that this was okay, which is absolutely insane. And this shows you how far they go when it comes to mind control. And when it comes to policing the thoughts of American citizens to the point where they're like, we're just going to take it all. Oh, yeah, get in my head for a minute. I'm an Austrian banker. I run the Bank for International Settlements in Switzerland. I'm letting the US survive with my money. If I want to cut them off from my money supply, I can. The most annoying thing in the world right now is American republicanism because they think that they're so great. They think they're the

best. They're screwing up. They're obese. They're screwing up the country. I would love nothing more than to see the United States split apart in a civil war because that's the biggest threat to my global takeover. I want to spread my seed. I want everyone using my money. I want the Bank for International Settlements to be running the world. And the Americans are annoying, man. So that's that perspective of this global banking cartel.

That's what Stripe is doing. Ethereum is the alternate. It's not about dollars and cents. It's great that Parallel Economy is using American dollars, fiat currency, Federal Reserve notes for now. Great that Stripe's doing it. Stripe's still private. I think they're looking at going public, which means BlackRock's going to own them pretty soon. I don't know when

that's happening or they've been talking about it since 2021. People are going to take that clip of you saying you want to spread your seed everywhere. I want to inseminate the world with my fiat crap. But it looks like Ethereum, which is also kind of on a path to fiat, unfortunately, with their transition to proof of stake now instead of proof of work. It doesn't matter who's making the currency. It matters who has it. They're going to be making more. I don't think it's fiat currency.

I mean, I'm an Ethereum fan. And there are other great blockchains and cryptocurrency. Bitcoin was applauded for being the first, but it's not a very good one. And it wasn't expected to be, it was just to prove the concept. But there are a lot of great cryptocurrencies, which could, I mean, Zelle is an alternative to PayPal, just doing it with your Zelle and your bank. But the long-term evolution could well be cryptocurrency that is controlled by no one other than people using it. So the Ethereum, their new process to confirm a block of data and to lock it in. You know, you're just people like me.

I'm one of them now. Some of my Ethereum, I've pledged to go to their system. So it's not like I'm pledging U.S. dollars or fiat currency. I'm pledging Ether. I heard some rumors that some people on the Ethereum network were working with working with like the world economic forum and their vision of a centralized currency they are well this is what i read is that ethereum is going to be the one world government coin well it's also important really so buy ethereum is what you're saying no no stop financing the monster the reason i say it's fiat you're triggering me here bitcoin has 19 million bitcoins 21 million

that'll ever be printed they can be broken down into what are called Satoshis, which is the lowest decimal amount. So we have a finite amount of them. They're not fiat in that sense. There's a finite amount. But Ethereum can be printed indefinitely as it's currently standing, which means that if enough inflation happens fast enough, you're just going to see an escalation and a fiat explosion of Ethereum 2. They could always evolve it, create a fork, create Ethereum 3 that's actually deflationary by nature, which I think is the future of crypto. It's a crypto that as long as it sits there, it's constantly degrading in value. You have one today, you're losing 0.001% of that every day. So you're encouraged to spend it. You want circulation

of currency. You want currency circulating through any given system. That's what a currency is. It's a current. And just to add to your point, the BlackRock CEO came out not so long ago, and he said this Ukrainian war could be used to, quote, accelerate the use of central bank digital currencies. So these Fed coins, these coins orchestrated by the Federal Reserves and central banks are already being implemented in places like Canada and Australia. The U.S. Federal Reserve is talking about implementing one here in the United States. So a lot of people foresee a deliberate brought on economic calamity that's engineered here in the United States in order to bring on these centralized digital currencies, which of course

will track trace and database and also create a social credit score like system that will track how much carbon you produce that will of course also punish you for your wrong political thoughts. This is what PayPal is probably working on the back end. This is what the Federal Reserve is already working on and implementing in many other countries, which should scare the utter crap out of everyone paying attention right now. I think it's inevitable that the writing's been on the wall since maybe the 1980s, really since the Federal Reserve formed and realized, yo, we're just going to inflate this thing until we can't anymore. They have to have some future vision of what it's going to become. And it doesn't surprise me that it's a global trackable currency that's digital and can

be shut off with the flip of a switch. Where did you see that they said Ethereum would be like that global currency? I can find an article about it. Who said that? It was some article I was reading a couple weeks ago. I don't disagree. I was even thinking that it would be Bitcoin. The issue is Bitcoin, you mentioned it was the first in, best dressed. So it's not necessarily the best one. But it came in looking good and it worked. But the best thing about it is that it's truly decentralized.

And many of these other cryptos are centralized in some capacity. There was some controversy with a particular coin i'm not going to mention because it's proprietary but people were shocked to discover that they increased the volume when they said they couldn't and they did because when you have centralized digital currency they can they can control it did you see what did you find it it didn't pop up i'll see if i can pull it up tonight though ethereum makes sense i mean doesn't doesn't ethereum uh, I don't want to say things I don't know for sure. But Ethereum makes sense because it's seemingly the more institutional of the cryptocurrencies. They're getting a lot of support. Bitcoin, of course, does.

But too many anarchists, libertarians, and radicals support Bitcoin. For me to think that they're going to actually try and use that. They want control. They also want infinite supply. Ethereum provides a possibility for an infinite supply. What'll happen is you'll be, like you were saying, you're staking the Ethereum, which means that you put some into a node

and then that node generates interest. I think it's actually, this I don't know exactly if it's written into the code of the Ethereum 2 itself that auto-generates interest. And so it's set to expand at a certain rate. But what'll happen is we'll each have our own nodes. People will probably start selling you little boxes you plug into your wall and you tap into with your phone and your ethereum

is going to be on your wall which is dangerous because someone can steal that so then we'll create these like bank nodes that are like 10 miles away in a very secure location there's a node that you can port into with your phone where all your ethereum is stored collecting you interest and then there'll be maybe there'll be a master node in bank of international settlements in switzerland who knows where they're going to put the master node but eventually they'll start noting up and then re-centralize the thing no i don't think they want i think it's a real ethereum is a real blockchain it is decentralized it'll always stay that way it's not decentralized proprietary no it literally is i mean the problem with bitcoin is it takes 10 minutes or maybe more to process a block. So potentially I could buy something with you paying Bitcoin.

If the block doesn't process, you know, you don't get paid. You may want to wait. I don't want to wait 10 minutes for the block to process. Bitcoin is just not feasible for use. But Ethereum, and as it advances more, can do really fast processing and can be used for something like a cryptocurrency that you use every day of life that is not controlled by a bank. It's controlled by the Ethereum blockchain. But if a bank owns 51% of the chain, or if a cabal of people owns 51%, it's not likely, but it is a possibility.

And I think we should resolve every contingency when we're planning a future of global currency. Like if it can be done it may very well be done so we should watch out for people taking control of the nodes you can track everybody you know with with bitcoin uh i believe the ethereum chain it's all publicly available as well right all the transactions yeah on um ether scan yep i went to i bring this up often we talk about crypto i went to davos several years ago, and crypto was the theme. I wasn't in the actual World Economic Forum. In the city of Davos, everybody shows up and then tries to suck all the teat of the World Economic Forum outside of it.

They're like, look at me, look at me. I want to be part of your thing. But there's pop-ups everywhere. Bars, clubs, partying, and people do their mini events in the periphery, and crypto was it. Everyone was like, this is the future. This is what we're doing. Since then, I've been telling people like, yo, the World Economic Forum types, they love crypto.

They want that. I mean, think about what Bitcoin is. It's arguably a global currency. It comes out. They get all the right wing nut jobs to start using it and cheering for it. They all become rich overnight. This sings the praises of it. And all of a sudden they're like, this is our way out of the machine. And the machine is just like,

we love that everyone's adopting this universal digital currency that can track every move you make. Another reason why the World Economic Forum and the global monetary system doesn't like Bitcoin, but they prefer Ethereum is because Bitcoin's energy intensive. The mining process requires that you have a GPU plugged into a wall. It's burning a lot of coal or whatever your power. Whereas the proof of stake stuff, it's just the digital code on some node somewhere is just repopulating and adding new

gain. It doesn't require any mining electricity. It's just like in this program in the net. The problem is if the power goes out, then none of it's worth anything. Right. I was going to ask if the power goes out, what are we going to do? Yeah, when I ask that question to a group of developers, it stuns silence. You put the blockchain on the smoke signal,

and that's how you transfer it. I promise, that's how much I had. You send the private key, and then you send the public key, and then bada-bing, bada-boom. And everyone can see your private key. There it is. It's true, it's true.

I think cash, you've got to maintain cash. Well well we have dealt with that problem at fortitude ranch because we do have a cryptocurrency it's called the fortitude this is a fake one not the real one it runs it's an erc20 token runs on the ethereum blockchain you can use our tokens to buy membership uh but what happens if you know the grid goes down there's no ethereum blockchain you can't use them so if you want you can say hey you know i'm the one who bought this uh these fortitude tokens i'll put it on my spreadsheet on my computer i keep offline and if the grid's down but you can still contact me i know that you know you know you own you know you own 15 fortitudes and you are entitled to join Fortitude Ranch.

Because when the shit hits the fan for Fortitude Ranch, and everyone wants to join, we've got a page ready to come up on our website that says we're no longer accepting cash memberships. You can only join with Fortitude tokens. Because people have bought them in the past. Part of the allure is if you own Fortitudes, you're not a member of Fortitude Ranch, but we will give you priority to join over cash buyers is it i've been selling them for that is there any kind of like thing on there where i can scan it and it'll bring up my fortitude not on this this is completely

a trinket you know for show but uh yeah it's it's it's a normal erc20 token so you can see it on the blockchain if you if you search for fortitudes frT is our symbol. We're hard to find. We're trading on another. FRT. Yeah. That's unfortunate. Yeah, sorry. I'm going to go to coinmarketcap.com and look up the FRT.

But we're not widely traded at all. It was a small issue. The company owns most of the tokens. We have people who bought them, one to join, and then some who bought them as investments. You couldn't get FRC? Fortitude Ranch Currency? No, Fortitude is the name we use. Fortitude Ranch?

All right, everybody. I'll give this one here to you. Oh, yeah, cool. In Fort's blockchain and individual freedom we trust. Oh, cool. Slide it over. That's very cool. All right, everybody.

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part of the stakeholder economy, help make sure that your money is going to the local economy and fight shareholder primacy. It also ties the mission statement to the corporation, even with other owners' investment. Yeah, you could like, that's what I was talking about, like nodes, like 10 miles away where like 10,000 people are hosting their money,

then you could withdraw taxes from the node to finance surrounding projects and stuff, localized taxing and things like that. Interesting. Helicon Drummer says, Switched Timcast account from PayPal today. My understanding is their fines could also be used against anyone purchasing firearms or related items.

Did you see that? I think I saw something like that. Yeah, you can't use PayPal to buy anything related to firearms already. So they already have an anti-firearm policy. Yeah, and PayPal. But this is why it was like a year ago we were like we need to find a way to get rid of paypal paypal doesn't want you defending yourself as they steal money from you sorry i just maybe that's why they banned firearm purchases sorry i had to say that cantara bella says wild switching to parallel

rumble use your voice dollars Dollars. That's right. So we put everything up on Rumble. And I'm really, you know, look, it's really cool. We've got, I think, TimCast.io has like 300,000 subscribers on Rumble. And my TimCast channel has like 300,000, I think, as well. My Tim Pool channel doesn't. So we just were moving that segment over to the TimCast one where most of the subscribers are, but it's cool to see that there's actually some rivaling happening to YouTube. The fact that I've got hundreds of thousands of subs on this platform makes it a viable platform

to keep using. If YouTube wants to play dirty games, the market shall provide. And so, so it seems not a guarantee. It's not the best, but you know, but that being said, that's why we use parallel economy. Shout out Dan Bongino, who I think is doing more than most when it comes to actually building a parallel economy and pushing back on the censorship because Rumble and parallel economy are huge. I think here's what we need. We got a brick and mortar location coming soon for something. It's going to be a hangout venue club games.

I'm hoping that parallel economy can actually set up pay terminals so that we can use them for our general payment processing as well, because we need stores to start doing that stuff. Then you can't get silence censored or shut down for what your business is. And if you use the Public Square app, which will show you a list of businesses that support American values, all of those businesses should also be using Parallel Economy. Oh, I just got this in. PayPal, this is from Bloomberg. PayPal has no intention to fine customers over misinformation. Yeah, they walked back to the policy.

Oh, yeah, now they're just saying they never intended it to begin with. It was an error. It's official, yes. Well, so I got to say this then. The loss of money I've incurred from people canceling their accounts, is PayPal going to pay damages for that? They admitted it was an error. This wasn't a policy change

they can claim they're allowed to make. This was them publishing false information, which caused pain and suffering, damages to all of these businesses. Yeah, got them. So maybe, I don't know. Got to talk to a lawyer. I mean, what did they lose?

5%, 6% of their value in one day? It's a lot. We lost a lot of members. So here's what happens. There are people who have signed up to simps.com using PayPal. These are people who are probably not super fans of the show, but they're fans enough to be like, yeah, you know, I'll sign up. I'll support the guy.

Yeah, here you go. But they don't watch every episode. They don't really pay attention that much. When they cancel their account, they don't come back to the website and re-sign up. Those are customers that we have to try and email and ask, be like, hey, did you still want to be a member? So when we lose that money because PayPal published a false statement, I think they're responsible and they should have to pay the damages to every single business because of that error. You don't get to like, you know, if you're a repairman and you're coming to fix my window and then you break it,

you got to pay for it. I'm not paying for that. PayPal busted up the system and now it's costing costs. That's their fault. It's like a venue. If you're putting on a show and one day the venue's like, and we're not letting anyone in that isn't six, seven or has green hair, it doesn't get their vaccine. Then you as like a performer that has tickets bought and then you lose all this money on your tickets, all these refunds. You can probably go after the venue for that. That's a way better analogy. You book a show at a venue, people are buying tickets, and the venue comes out and announces they're taking everyone's tickets away at their own discretion. So people rip their tickets up and leave and demand refunds. And now I'm left with

no money because the venue comes out and said, no, no, no, no, that wasn't a real statement. That was fake. And I'm like, okay, well, now that my show's ruined and my business has been destroyed because of what you just did, you got to pay. Yeah, at least class action. Is that the way you would go? All the people harmed by would come together? Class action, I think, is always a bad idea. The only person who wins a class action is the lawyer.

Yep. All right. President Irina Vladimirovna says, one of the things related to the World Economic Forum, you will own nothing shtick that I don't see many people talking about is the insane amount of subscription-based services like spotify i recently bought a custom zune so all of my music is kept offline and safe good idea because uh people are buying their way into communism everything is becoming subscription i go on amazon and uh i'm like i need i need a coconut water and it's like, I need coconut water. And the default, subscribe. The default is not to buy a case. It's to subscribe to coconut water.

I'm not subscribing to that one. We're not all buy more. I guess we should subscribe. I don't know. We have a subscription to toilet paper. We do. It's bamboo toilet paper though. And so once a month we get a thing,

like we have 30 employees. We have this 12,000 square foot facility. So we gotta keep the bathroom stocked up so we bought a subscription everything's gonna be that's his automated subscription processing and then in 20 years when amazon owns every single business you will have a subscription to amazon for your services and you won't realize it but you will have bought your way into the tactic is like we'll give you 10 off if you subscribe for a monthly purchase. And then when you forget that you're subscribed that one extra month, it pays off the 10% gain that you had. And they're just hoping people forget.

And that's the danger for businesses is it's good to have an accountant going through all the order lists every time, every month, so that you're not accidentally ordering things you don't need. All right. Keba Rojo says, Tim and Co, you inspired us to go all in on fighting the culture war through music. Just released The Reckoning by Single Grain of Sand. Definitely see the value is speaking truth via music. Only on Rumble, half of the GP goes to 1.6, 1.6 prisoners. Cool.

Glad to hear it. Troy Dunham had a huge debate this weekend with family over Biden's invention of the term next Nelrescent. I couldn't find video evidence anywhere. Please confirm and provide any sources or context. They were also dubious of Batikaf care, but I did find that one. There was a video I saw. It may have been Nuance, bro. I'm not sure where I can remember who it was. They went over the Joe Biden's new language and they showed all the clips next Nelrescent, Batikaf Care. But, I mean, just show them truening on a shot of pressure.

Come on. Show them, I'll start with two words, made in America. And then be like, come on, it's three words. Lauren Boebert tweeted out, I have two words, let's go, Brandon. And everyone's like, she's such an idiot. She said two words, and she said three. What an idiot. But they didn't know that Biden did that, I guess.

And that's the point. Yeah, she was trolling. No, but what she did, whether on purpose or not, perfectly exposed the cult. These people don't even listen to the president they voted for speaking. We, as people, I don't know who you voted for, but we're people who are no fans of Joe Biden. I'm assuming you, Serge, too. But we watch his speeches. And so when he says it, we all watch it happen.

When he says Trinidad and Chabot of Pressure, we're all talking about it like, did you see what just happened? All of these people like George Takei, David Hogg, these other guys, they don't even watch him. And they voted for him. And then when we come out and we're like, look how crazy he is, they go, you're so dumb. It's like, what? How are you supposed to negotiate with a group of people that are like that? When they're just like, I don't know. I don't care. I won't watch him. And you're so dumb. It's like, what? How are you supposed to negotiate with a group of people that are like that? When they're just like, I don't know,

I don't care, I won't watch him and you're dumb. What do you do? Like you were in the military. I don't know if you worked with conflict resolution much, but like if you're up

against like the Taliban, how do you end up negotiating? You just take one of their leaders and you give them a lucrative bribe to negotiate with the entire group? The military doesn't really get into the negotiation. It's supposed to be

the State Department handling that. Yeah, the U.S. military doesn't really get into the negotiation. It's supposed to be the State Department handling that. Yeah, the U.S. military doesn't de-escalate. All right, let's read more. We got Mitt Formo 2. It says, Happy Columbus Day. Happy Columbus Day indeed. Today's the day we celebrate

when a bunch of Europeans figured out there was another part of the planet. Dude, this... Who was it that... Oh, Spike Cohen tweeted out the history of Columbus Day. day it was like in the late 1800s a bunch there's this abusive lynching of a bunch of irish americans so then william henry harrison was like you know what no no we'll make a day after the italian adventure christopher columbus yay now it's not so bad what they did to you italians and then it was in like the 1930s that uh there was all this italian anti-italian

american sentiment because of the war and Mussolini's Italy. So they were just persecuted again. And then it was FDR was like, we're officially making Columbus Day a holiday to appease you. All right, let's read this one. One two says, what information do you have? Putin is losing. My info says otherwise. Plus, he took 20 percent of the country.

Why would Saudi Arabia get in this? Get on the side with Russia if they were losing. My info says otherwise. Plus, he took 20% of the country. Why would Saudi Arabia get on the side with Russia if they were losing money? Well, for Saudi Arabia, it was less Russia than Iran. That, you know, the U.S. has not been holding Iran back from their nuclear weapons program. And there's a lot of concern that, you know, Saudis are worried about that. But they want oil prices to go up and Russia's helping them on that. So they're playing their economic interests and Iran is an ally of Russia and, you know, they're doing what they got to do to protect their own self-interest. All right. Well, I'll just add to that. You got to choose who you trust. I mean,

I think it's fair to say that Putin is losing simply because he's fighting NATO. He's fighting all of NATO. We're supplying weapons, intelligence. We've got volunteer ground forces. But now we have confirmed special operations on the ground. Germany is providing air defense. Biden's going to be sending air defense. So when the news reports come out and they're like Putin's forces are routed and retreating, I'm like, you know, he's fighting like a military alliance. So it's reasonable to me to assume. Granted, I do think it's know, he's fighting like a military alliance. So it's reasonable to me to assume. Granted, I do think it's all propaganda. And I think Russia's probably doing better in certain areas than you'd ever find out because they're not going to come out and be like, yes, all of our troops are losing. Now let's go and fight more. They need to justify

why the money needs to be sent there. And so Putin has to be doing well enough that they need the money, but not so well, it's a lost cause. Do you have any other kind of intelligence or assessments to why Russia is losing? Well, their troops aren't fighting well. They're just not motivated compared to the Ukrainians. I mean, why did the Russians fight so well in World War II? Germany was invading their territory and killing them off. They're now invading Ukraine, and they're not doing well. And they've not been doing well. They've been suffering high

casualties. They are definitely losing the war, losing territory. And the mobilization going on is not being well received in the country. And just they're not mobilizing. I was a reservist and an air guard person. When you mobilize us, we're ready to go. The troops they're trying to mobilize are conscripts. They got to train train them. They've got to equip them. It's going to be a long time for them to build that force up, and it's not a ready-to-go force, and they're going to continue to go badly, which is why the risk of

them escalating the nuclear weapons use or some other retaliation against us like a bio-attack is very real now. All right. Insert name here says, YouTube is giving zero TP notifications now. I have to deliberately search for you. Also, shameless plug for my friend who released a poetry book, Our Little Black Book by Ren Ivy for some distraction. And Almost Last Jedi says

YouTube have reached a new low. As well as not getting notifications, I got unsubscribed today. Wonder why I couldn't find the live stream. And today was one of those days where Ian reminded me at the last minute, the thumbnail doesn't go up. When we launched the live stream, the thumbnail is a gray block and I have to immediately then re upload the thumbnail. Otherwise people scrolling through don't see it and don't, and they wonder why it is they're not seeing it's because YouTube is playing dirty games. So be the notification you want to see in the world. Every Monday through Friday, 8 p.m., we are live at youtube.com slash timcastirl slash live. You can just take that and you can post it and share it wherever or use the actual direct URL at the top of the video and share it.

You can also listen on iTunes and Spotify and all the other podcast platforms too because we do post it there at night as well. Let's read some more super chats. Let's see what you got, guys. All right, let's see. We'll grab a good one. I'm trying to find a good question. AJ Cook says, your guest is a nice guy, I'm sure, but his opinions on Russia are cringe CIA MI6 propaganda. Ask Russians with attitude to recommend a guest who can comment intelligently on their side of the story like armchair warlord. Oh, yeah.

I would just say it's who you trust. It sounds like you trust the government. You trust the United States and the media reporting here. No, I trust them in terms of biological weapons programs. I don't think we're developing

biological weapons. Let me put it in a way that people who don't trust government might understand better. Like, for example, the preparedness committee, a lot of people say, oh, FEMA's going to do concentration camps against Americans. And that's been out there a lot,

and it's absolute nonsense. You know, the people who work for FEMA are largely good people. And if there was some massive conspiracy of FEMA concentration camps, if there was some program where the U.S. is secretly developing biological weapons, a lot of people would have to be involved in doing that. And the secret would eventually get out. If we had a biological weapons program, you would know about it.

It would be leaked. we just, you know, you don't have a lot of faith in the competence of people in government, then why would you think that they can carry out some vast conspiracy, some brilliant conspiracy, and keep it secret? They're not that capable. They can't do it. So whether you trust them or not, the truth is, you know, there is no FEMA concentration camp conspiracy, like some people think. There is no biological weapons program that the United States has. If there was, it would leak. But when it comes to the war in Ukraine, why assume that the reporting coming out is good? If we think the U.S. government isn't capable of these kind of organizational feats, then why would I assume that there's any effective intelligence or armaments happening or honest reporting as it pertains to Ukraine.

I mean, I'll put it this way. There's no way Ukraine wins this war if NATO wasn't backing them. They would have been steamrolled in two seconds. The U.S. is clearly involved. So why should I believe— We are involved in the war. We are supporting Ukraine. There's just no doubt.

No, yeah, right. So why should I assume that the U.S. doesn't have the capabilities of this level of organization when arguably if they're winning in Ukraine, they're actively doing it. I'm sorry, I don't follow that. If the argument is that the U.S. can't operate, the government doesn't have the capability to operate, say, camps that they would use to bring people to in the event of some kind of crisis or catastrophe, then, I mean, you're assuming the government is incapable of doing something.

I'm saying there is no FEMA plan in a kind of collapse situation to round up Americans and put them into concentration camps. There is no plan that, you know, we're going to invite in United Nations troops to take over the country. I don't know. Sure, sure, sure. You hear nonsense like this all the time. And, you know, even if it's legitimate, even if you believe it might be true, you probably don't trust government officials. So you shouldn't trust that there is a capability for them to, one, organize something like this, and then, two, to carry it out and to keep it secret. So don't worry about ridiculous-sounding government conspiracy theories. They're not true. They're probably not true. They're probably not true. I just had a conniption. I respectfully, absolutely, 100% disagree. They lied about the Vietnam War, the Gulf War I, Gulf War II, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan.

They lied about so much. Why would they not be lying now? And I think it's best to be skeptical of government and to quote Ronald Reagan here. I think the most terrifying words on the planet are, I'm from the government and I'm here to help. I've been criticizing government throughout your program. You know, the avian flu research that was not so much that it was done, the fact that they published it. That's what bothered me the most about it was publishing the how do you make avian flu

mammal to mammal ferrets and their research, but human to human transmission. So I'm not a huge fan of government, but the conspiracy theories of, hey, we've got FEMA concentration camps are in the works, our United Nations troops are going to be invited in to take over the country, or that we're developing biological weapons. It's not... Was it a conspiracy? Was it a conspiracy when the United States interned Japanese people in camps? No, they absolutely did. But that happened before. So why would you say it's impossible to happen when it happened before? I'm saying there is no FEMA program to set up concentration camps against Americans or to bring in United Nations troops.

I run into people who believe that, and it's just nonsense. What you ought to believe in is real threats, like Russia using nuclear weapons, like a biological agent, like human-to-human transmissibility. Like government lying us into a war. To worry about without inventing false government conspiracies. But you're doing two things I disagree with. The first is bringing the U.N. into it is sort of like a straw man. I hear that fairly often.

For sure, for sure. I mean, there's posters you can find in Nebraska and Texas about UN coming in. Let's steel man it. Luke is right. The US has interned people before. They have the capability to do so. They have the facilities to do so. 1.5 million Americans locked up right now, as I mentioned. So the issue is... They created

bioweapons. The two things I disagree with. One is incorporating the UN into it, but the other is now I'm losing my train of thought on this one i've lost it luke what's going on you can't just believe the government blindly because i got it i got it i got it back the the idea that they have a plan for it is is another mistake they have the capability to do it they have the facilities to do it if something bad happened they've george w. Bush already signed National Security

Presidential Directive 51, meaning they have the intention to do it if they so want it. So it's all there. I mean, you can say the UN thing is a conspiracy, and I'll just say, yeah, I don't know anything about that. That seems ridiculous. Why would the UN troops come in here? They don't need it. But to say that the US doesn't have a plan for it, perhaps, but they've expressed intent

if need be, the facilities and the individuals if they need it. But to say that the U.S. doesn't have a plan for it, perhaps, but they've expressed intent, if need be, the facilities and the individuals, if they need be. The conspiracy is always the intent. I don't know that intent exists. I know the capability does. So the president's changed quite a few times since George Bush. So you're saying that somehow during all these presidential changes of people, you know, absolutely hate each other, but yet they managed to keep this conspiracy or this. No, no, no, no, no. Hold on.

National Security Presidential Directive 51 is an executive order that does exist and was updated by Barack Obama. And says exactly what? In the event of a catastrophic loss of life or damage to the U.S. As the result of an incident that occurs anywhere on the planet, the president has the authority to essentially introduce a new government to supersede the current one, a new constitutional government, and create a national continuity coordinator who would oversee the new monogo this executive order exists. The president in 2007, I believe, asserted the authority to over basically overwrite existing law due to a major emergency and the need for continuity of government. It's been challenged because people say it's well, it's never been challenged. The challenge to it is that it's never actually faced Supreme Court scrutiny. So they don't they don't think it would fly. However, in the event of a catastrophic event affecting the government,

who's going to bring it to the Supreme Court? The point is, Barack Obama updated it. It is a component of the federal government and the executive branch, although many people do challenge its authority. There are internment facilities. I mean, you've got prisons. You've got them all over the place. And you've got other large, open, you know, I don't know what these are for, but like storage facilities, warehouses, et cetera. And the U.S. government has interned people before. I'm not saying there's a conspiracy to do it.

I'm not saying there's a plan to do it. My issue is there doesn't need to be. There is the intention for the government to wipe out people's laws, you know, wipe out the laws, enforce a new law at their own discretion to remove undesirables. There is the capability to do it and we have no intention of blowing it up. And they're lining the building with it. And they're like, I've got a real concern. You might do that. They can be like, nobody here wants to do that. There's no plan to do that. We have done it before, but we're not doing it now. Don't be surprised when people freak out and think you're going to do it.

Yeah. I mean, have you ever heard of the Tostigi experiments when the U.S. government knowingly hurt people? They were doing scientific biological experiments on unsuspecting human beings. The CIA did that with MKUltra. They hurt and punished and poisoned people. The U.S. government even spread radioactive waste inside of the United States. There's historical documented cases

of the government doing large biological testing, especially even with radiation, on unsuspecting American public. So why would you ever believe that that is not ever possible ever again? It's not what I said. I didn't say it's not ever possible again. I said in answer to your question, no, the U.S. does not have biological weapons programs now, and I don't believe we do have biological weapons programs now.

If we did, it would be illegal and it would probably be leaked because you wouldn't be able to keep it secret. So I'm not worried about illegal U.S. guys. The government never does anything illegal? So let me ask. So the biological research facilities in Ukraine that the U.S. is desperate to defend, they're doing gain-of-function research there. They were. They admitted that, yes. So they're making viruses more dangerous.

Maybe. I don't know specifically what they were doing there but that's what you can make them more dangerous because you gotta develop defenses to them so you gotta can those can can can the pathogens they were experimenting on be used as weapons yes they could so it's semantics to argue there's no biological weapons program and optimistic thinking the united states could use nuclear weapons to destroy their own states and cities. Yeah, theoretically you could. It's not really. No, no, no, that's not.

I'm saying that it would be like the U.S. is building nuclear bombs and saying, but they're not weapons. They're for mining. And it's like, okay, well, like, can the bomb be dropped on a city? Sure. But it's not a weapon.

It's like, look, you can make a padlock into a weapon. So it's a semantic argument. I'll absolutely concede, officially on paper, there's no biological weapons being made. But if they're making viruses more dangerous, those can easily be weaponized. And it's just a semantic argument. And have you ever heard of Agent Orange? Very much so.

I wrote the official Air Force history of the disposal of Agent Orange. Well, that should tell you that the government is capable of poisoning and using bioweapons on large populations of people. Let's read a couple more super chats. We got LoneWolf36S. He says, Ethereum 2.0 just came out. It's already controlled. It's now impossible to mine it. Oh, wow.

Well, it's not controlled. It's a new proof of stake method. They're not doing the mining where they just changed it. You can still mine ethereum one pioneer smokehouse's channel says aws controls the nodes now they moved electric use from miners to aws and they can stop at any time it's very concerning i read that and i didn't know if it was true or not is that they're using aws i don't know who to confirm it with it's so new i don't know but i wouldn't be surprised if that's true. Bro, it's going to be Amazon, man. The centralization of the ownership of the direction of your money, man.

Jeff Bezos, he's going to sell you everything you need. They're already doing it. They're going to Amazon. Doesn't Amazon own Whole Foods? If your Ethereum is already in the Amazon account, you'll get a discount on Amazon products. Host on our node. Yeah. Amazon literally has stores.

They had a new store opened up in North Hollywood. Really? Yeah. Yeah, Amazon literally has stores. They had a new store opened up in North Hollywood. Really? Is that the one where you can walk in without a clerk or whatever, a cashier? I don't know for sure. I didn't really go in there. It wasn't really my, I'm not the target audience, you know, but I assume so. I assume if it's Amazon, they were talking about it, yeah. I went to that one in Seattle, and we did a little stunt where we proved it's really

easy to just take whatever you want without paying for it. And it was really simple. Um, I don't know if I can actually say exactly what we did. I may have already said it, but I said, because I didn't want people to go do it. It's, it's really, really simple to do, but I was able to walk out and only pay for one thing out of like 10. And, uh, I should say in my account, we did pay for everything. We didn't steal anything. We just, we just figured out a loophole and then made sure everything was paid up. But we proved that you could easily do this. I called the company.

And when I explained what I did, they went, oh, we don't care. And the gist of it was that the amount of money they save by not having employees covers any potential loss from glitches in the system. That'll be your future. There will be just buildings. You walk in and grab stuff, and then it just deducts the crypto from your account. And if it's an error, nobody cares. Congratulations.

You jaywalk. You get fined. Money gets automatically taken out of your account. That's right. Commit wrong think. Your child can't go to school anymore. You say a naughty word. PayPal takes a bunch of money from your financial account.

You can't get a plane ticket or train ticket anymore. Your internet service is cut down. Right. Already happening in China. Right, exactly. All right, my friends. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button and subscribe to this channel? Apparently, some people have been unsubscribed.

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thanks for coming man i still have a jillion things i want to talk about and i usually talk about them on lukeuncensored.com we're also of course implementing alternatives to paypal we got another second alternative that we're going to be implementing very soon today i made a video where i was screaming on the top of my lungs i couldn't control myself i couldn't hold it back to watch that video check it out on lukeuncensored.com. Thank you so much for having me. Great discussion. Thank you for the opinions. Yeah, big time, man. Thanks. Thanks for clarifying that depleted uranium isn't considered tactical nuclear weaponry. Also, keep in mind, deflationary currency is the future of a sustainable currency where the longer it sits there, the more it dissipates.

So you want to keep it moving. Then we can make more of it when new people are born. So it encourages growth of humans. Of course, it's not just about the number of humans. It's about the value of the humans. Are you calculating human body heat

to see how much crypto is produced? Let's find out and let's do it together. I love you. See you later. All right. And you guys can follow me on Instagram at surge.com spelled out i don't have anything on twitter anything i might if elon goes through with the buy we'll see but uh

as of now that's everything thank you let's make a crypto where as soon as you're born you get like 100 tokens and then like everybody gets 100 tokens and then when you're born you get one and then you can trade and stuff with it but like like, there you go. You're, you're alive. Here's some money. Yeah. It might be something like that. Like every, for every like jewel of heat, your body produces, you get a crypto token added to your account or something,

but you got to be in the pod and eating the bugs. All right, everybody. We'll see you all over at Tim cast.com. Thanks for hanging out. See ya.