Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #635 Alex Jones Ordered To Pay ONE BILLION DOLLARS In Defamation Trial w/Andrew Gold

Episode Date: October 13, 2022

Tim, Ian, Luke, & Serge join Andrew Gold to discuss Alex Jones being fined nearly 1 billion dollars for defamation, JP Morgan Chase cancelling Kanye's bank account, the cult following behind wokeness, John Fetterman's health after his stroke, Elon Musk selling over 10,000 bottles of "burnt hair" perfume, & the dystopian AI interview between Joe Rogan and Steve Jobs. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Alex Jones, in his latest defamation trial, has been ordered to pay nearly $1 billion, $965 million to the families in the Sandy Hook circumstance. And I'm shocked. I'm outraged. A billion dollars. That's it. It should be a gajillion, but majillion, trillion. Because let's be real.

A billion dollars is a meaningless number. Not only does Alex Jones not have it, but it's a ridiculous number to award someone anyway. And it just shows, it's just, it's just all nonsense. Now, Alex Jones come out saying he's not going anywhere. He's not going to stop. And you can't. You can't sue someone into not existing.

So there's workarounds. And I'd be really surprised if any of these people actually see a penny from Alex Jones. He's claiming he doesn't have it. He's claiming he's broke. We will see how that plays out. The next story, man, this is brutal. John Fetterman. He's running for office. He did an interview with NBC, and he was unable to understand the questions asked of him. The journalist who did the interview said that during small talk, he couldn't understand what she was saying. He can hear the words, but his brain can't process it. He needed a special device that transcribes what people are saying into text so that he can answer these questions. And I just think right there,

it shows the dude is not mentally fit to be a senator. And you know what? I'll tell you, Democrats will still vote for him because they voted for Joe Biden, too. But here's my warning, man. You look at what happened when you vote for someone like Joe Biden, because you don't care that he's clearly not with it. You're like, well, whatever. We'll let him win. Now look at your economy.

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coming. Who are you? I am a British, as you can hear, journalist and documentary maker and podcaster, host of the On the Edge with Andrew Gold podcast. I look into all sorts of cults and ideologies. I think the most controversial aspects thereof is that I consider woke ideology and that kind of thing as one of the ideologies. A cult? Yeah, I think so. That's why you're here, because we say it all the time. I think so. It's cult-ish, at least. It's cult-ish. It's a weird kind of like decentralized cult, I guess, that centers on the internet or something. It's got some comparisons to former ones, you know, like the Bolsheviks and things like that The the Puritans back in the I don't even know when that was when was that the 18th century Puritans?

The Bolshevik one is a scary one considering what's going on politically Yeah, it comes from this it comes from like all cults and religions and things that all comes from this Need to be righteous to feel like you're better than someone to raise your status Your virtue higher than other people as you raise your microphone as well as i raise my microphone yeah and and it's just you know the rest of us see through it but they continue this crazy crazy charade we got we got we got a lot to talk about in that regard too um also elon musk sold burnt hair cologne or something whatever luke's's here. Well, cheerio, bloke. Nice to have you here from over the pond.

My name is Luke Grodowski here of WeAreChange.org. The FDA just announced another emergency use authorization for small children today. So I decided to be very brave and support this action by wearing my 1984 doses to slow the spread. Now, we're still a little behind, but I think we're going to get there eventually. And if you agree, you can get the shirt on thebestpoliticalshirts.com because you do. I'm here.

Thank you so much for having me. Luke reinforced one of my concerns that my spoon was dinging a little bit too much into the microphone. If you've heard the ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. So I got a nice large wooden one in the meantime. Thanks, Luke. And if you didn't catch it today,

I did an interview with the one, the only Hotep Jesus, Brian Sharp, on his YouTube channel. If you haven't seen it yet, you're going to want to check it out after this show. Maybe you can catch it before the after-after show, which will be up at 11 o'clock p.m. on TimCast.com. What's going on, Serge?

Hey, guys. I'm here again. You can't get rid of me that easily. I am here. Lydia is not here. If you haven't heard the news, a lot of people haven't heard the news at all apparently they'll figure it out eventually we wish her luck yeah we do and uh i guess that's it we'll start the search is here pressing the

buttons from uh henceforth let's jump into this first story from the ap uh it's just so silly alex jones ordered to pay 96565 million for Sandy Hook lies an hour ago. I saw that and I just bursted out laughing. I think I was on the toilet and I'm like, I'm looking at my phone and I'm like, like right when the news breaks, I was like, is this a joke? Come on. You know, when they did the $50 million, I was like, wow, that's brutal. There's still, I still doubt anyone's going to get a penny from this because the way

lawsuits work. Alex Jones says he doesn't even get a penny from this because the way lawsuits work. Alex Jones says he doesn't even have the money anyway. Then a billion? This is just like, what is this for? Narrative and for the TV to say, oh, you know, he lied about this and now he's got to pay $1 billion.

It reminds me of Austin Powers when in the first one, he freezes himself and then he goes to the future and he says, I want $1 million and they all laugh at him. And then they're like, Dr. Evil, $1 million today isn't actually a lot of money. He's like, oh.

And then in the next one, he goes back in time and says, I want $100 billion. And they'll start laughing at him again, saying you might as well have just said a bajillion, gajillion dollars. That money doesn't exist. This is what it is. Like who in their right mind thinks Alex Jones has a billion dollars to give away i don't think anyone i don't and i mean i

mean he's been pretty transparent with his finances and he doesn't i don't understand there's a phrase squeezing trying to squeeze blood from a stone from a turnip from a turnip yeah uh i i don't know how the law works in this kind of situation where someone gets sued for money that they don't have. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. This is the biggest judgment in US history, apparently, for defamation. And people want a judgment for defamation that weren't even named by Alex Jones.

I don't understand this. There were like six people, six people's families, and an FBI agent that was involved somehow as pain and suffering from something Alex Jones. I mean, I understand he named someone. And then that person had phone calls. people went to that person's house I think I don't know what the extent of the what happened that I get that guy can sue for defamation he got named for something that but the rest of them I don't I don't understand this and it's setting a precedent there wasn't even a trial they just had a judgment because they had problems with discovery and this is the second of three

trials. There's still going to be yet another trial. And this settlement, you know, this judgment, excuse me, is almost as big as, of course, one of the biggest health care fraud settlements in history, which was given to Pfizer that had to pay $2.3 billion for fraudulent marketing back a couple years ago. So when you compare the two bad opinions compared to what Pfizer did back then, there's a big difference. Here's a question then. So what should happen? I don't have an answer to this.

Let's say you're a parent of the Sandy Hook thing. You're devastated and there are people turning up your house because of what Alex Jones said. What should happen? Maybe nothing. Well, I mean, that's tough. For one, Alex had said that under Texas law, you have to say someone's name

for it to be defamation and that he was just saying these people and those people. But I think he did name one person. There was one individual he named. I'll say this. Alex Jones went on a show to a massive audience and said things that were not true. He's allowed to have his opinions. But when he said things definitively, there's a question there of defamation when you call

out someone with false information who is not a public figure. I don't think the New York Times should be allowed to get away with it. My big issue, there's a couple of things I have issue with here. One, a billion dollars is just the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Uh, they didn't give him a trial. And when it, when are any of these big major media organizations ever going to be held to account in any, in any, in any way, let alone any way like this, it's not happening. So you can see how the machine comes for people who are outside of the establishment. I would say I would find it reasonable if Alex Jones was actually ordered to pay, you know, six figures to each family for each family member, something like that. Maybe

the total payout would have been like five million bucks. And they would have said that to cover the cost of security and moving all the legitimate, you know, all the legitimate costs incurred by these families. But the idea is here, punitive damages. The judges, I'm sorry, the lawyers actually said to the jury, fine him so much he cannot keep his business up and running or something to that effect. So the goal here is to punish him so that he doesn't do it again. And I just think that is where I say, no, that's wrong. And I'll tell you, Alex Jones is allowed to be wrong about things. He's allowed to have his opinion about things.

Now, if he defamed by saying statements of fact that were not true about private individuals, then I think he owes them damages. But if it was that he truly believed it and he was expressing his opinion in a major news event, then I don't see how you come after him for tens of millions or even a billion dollars. Paying for actual damages because you were wrong and spread misinformation about someone that damaged their life, that I understand. I'm thinking about a metaphor. I know you'll love it about social media administration. And one of the things that

minds that we were talking about is if you ban someone for violating terms of service, you ban the channel. And then when they try and make a new channel, some of the admins would be like, no, they can't make any more channels. They violated the terms. I'm like, no, no, no. You're not banning the person. You're banning the channel. The channel violated the terms.

So it's the same thing with Alex. You don't stop him from coming back. That's not the point. You punish him for the fraud or whatever the problem. But there's no like preventing people from existing or a realm back to, you know, normality. That's my opinion anyway. Or redemption, you know.

It's essential. Oh, right. The human conversation is about redemption. We're all, I mean, that's the Christian ethos is redemption. Well, these people aren't Christians. Well, our society is kind of based on it in a lot of ways. And they hate that. And I think that's a good thing.

I think progress is a good thing, but I think there's a lot of values that come from Christian values that I think are good, notably like innocent until proven guilty is a really good one. And there's a lot of bad ones. And we found over a long period of time we've gotten rid of the bad ones. But I think with this, the issue comes down to you cannot get rid of Alex Jones. It's impossible. Okay, here you go. John Smith starts a media company and then says, Alex, I'm going to hire you and I'm going to pay you $10 an hour to host this show.

A benefit of working for this company is that you're going to eat at a five-star restaurant steakhouse every night. The company pays for your penthouse and you get a car, a corporate car, and you get corporate private jets, but you only get paid 10 bucks an hour. What are they going to do? Rad. That's cool. What are they going to do?

So if Alex Jones as a personality on a show generates millions of dollars, tens of millions, hundreds of millions. So if they sue him into oblivion, he has a trusted individual who starts a company and hires him. And then what? Now, if at that point he says something again, they can sue that company. Sure. But then what?

Just do it again? It's ridiculous. There's nothing you can do to stop Alex Jones. He is unstoppable. He is a gigantic man boulder rolling down a hill. You will not stop him. Screaming on the top of his lungs, going crazy. I want you to imagine Alex Jones rolling down a hill at 100 miles an hour

going ah just he hits the bottom of that ramp and then he just goes flying to the air and then supernova yeah and he's like meditating in the sky as he's flying like that pokemon not pikachu i forgot who but let me let me say this how many times i'll put it this way the new york times the lies about the iraq war and all of that stuff, the lies about Iraq that got us into a war that cost what? How many people died? Yeah, really? How many innocent civilians were killed?

How much money was wasted? How much damage just around the world because of this? Have we sued the New York Times into oblivion to make sure they can never operate again? No, of course not. They just say, well, you know, don't do it again. And we all suffer because of it. Alex Jones says incorrect things about a bunch of families that I think it was wrong of him to say. And in the end, they're like, let's make sure he can never, ever run a company. They want to destroy not just his life. They want to destroy the lives of anyone who worked for him. Even a guy who's like a groundskeeper or security guard. That's insane. I want to tell you one more very, very important thing, especially as it pertains to censorship. When they censored Alex Jones on YouTube,

this is very important. They did not just take away his ability to speak. They deleted the entire archive of all of the work he had ever produced and published on that platform. That's the scary thing about social media censorship. It doesn't just say you can't talk anymore. Twitter, Facebook, YouTube erases your entire history. Gone. And then you can't comply with discovery. And then they're like, where's the video clips? Where's the video footage? Where's your apology? When did you say sorry? Show us the details. And of course, no one has the ability to have that many hard drives, that many backups. He streams essentially, what is it, four hours a day on his show, and then there's a bunch of other shows that he goes on.

So it's just impossible. And truly, the larger censorship efforts are repugnant and disgusting. And the corporate media does what Alex Jones does every single day. The only difference is they never get held accountable for all the lies and all the disinformation that they spew repugnant yeah that's a that's a word right repugnant i love that potato potato you know what i was saying i thought it was a word i didn't know but there you go yeah it sounded quite good to me but the context transfer people got people got it is is the issue is the issue that i mean this was an emotional reaction i suppose it's like a billion dollars or whatever it is i i do agree with what you're saying uh actually now that i think about

this to delete someone's entire archive of work seems insane yep but i also just feel like what is to stop all of us now from just saying whatever we want that completely ruins someone's life that might not be true what should be human decency i guess uh morals ethics um to an extent the christian values that were instilled in this country, whether you like them or don't, they're there. What should be done is defamation tort, civil tort. You know, I think we have a problem with Times v. Sullivan. Are you familiar with Times v. Sullivan? This is a precedent that basically says politicians and public figures. It's not just Times v. Sullivan.

There was another court case that added to it. But it's basically the precedent that says if you're a public figure, then there's a higher degree of scrutiny. And I think that, you know, there's good things and bad things about it. But I think it kind of weighs on the negative. What this means is if CNN comes out and lies about me and says that, you know, Tim Pool, you know, punched a dog and then I sue and say, no, I did it. They'll say you're a public figure. Oh, well, that's no good. No. And so, I mean, saying that I punched a dog is a very definitive thing.

So they probably would have a hard time with saying something that definitive. But they can come out and say that you're a known white supremacist who sympathizes and does this, that, or otherwise. And then if you try and sue, they'll say it's a protected opinion against a public, you know, public person. And so case dismissed. If you're a private individual, then you've got way more grounds, which is why Alex Jones basically lost here. But I think the real reason he lost here is because the machine was out to get him. That's my opinion on the matter. I mean, it's pretty clear. I mean, look what the corporate media does. Just a few months ago, during the whole Afghanistan debacle, the United States Pentagon military literally launched a missile strike and killed an aid worker. The US corporate

media said that he was ISIS-K, that he was a terrorist. He was an aid worker that was bringing fresh water to Afghanistan. That's libel. That's defamation. This family is being defamed as some kind of new radical Islamist terrorists when in reality they were working with the U.S. government bringing fresh water to Afghanistan. Is the corporate media going to be held responsible for that particular incident of defamation, of lying about someone that just had their entire family annihilated in a in a in a drone strike that the corporate media and the u.s pentagon were lying about no should they if we're going to be playing by these rules absolutely and i think you would get a reward more than a

billion dollars for such defamation than such actions if we're playing by the same rules set by the president of this particular court uh hearing i don't normally do super chats this early, but there is one that I want to address because I brought it up. And I think for people who are listening to the segment, they should hear it. Augusto Mimiche says, where is innocent until proven guilty in the Bible? He who is without sin isn't the same. No, it is the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. And it was, I think it was, Abraham was talking to God and God was like, you know, I'm probably getting the story wrong.

But the general idea is, you know, I'm going to blow up these cities because they're full of, you know, nasty people. And then he asks, but what if there are 50 righteous people? And he's like, OK, if there are 50 righteous people, I won't blow up. So what about 40? OK, if there's 40. And then finally comes down to what if there is but one righteous man? And he says, OK, if there is one righteous man, I will not destroy these cities. The idea there is that you cannot

condemn someone to death if they are a righteous person, right? That's the general idea. That was the inspiration for Blackstone's formulation. It is better that 10 guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer, which then went to Benjamin Franklin, who said it's better that 100 guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer. And the philosophy there, the legal and moral and governmental philosophy is if people don't have faith that as innocent individuals, they will be protected

from false accusations. If people believe that even if they are innocent, the machine will try to crush them, then they don't lend their confidence to government. Government doesn't work. Ultimately, this becomes

the element of the government that is you must have a trial. You must be proven guilty. You can confront your accusers and you are innocent until they prove you're guilty it's amazing i i i was reading about you know why i was reading about the constitution where these ideas came from why we had them and i traced that one all the way back it was very very fascinating so uh yeah there we go they say they say that 10 of people in prison are innocent and it reminds me of amanda knox

you remember amanda oh yeah yeah she was on my my podcast and she's this lovely person she seems so nice and the minute i put that out the amount of abuse i got and that she got she now has to live with that because people don't go by innocent until proven guilty they're just all convinced she did it you know yeah the court public opinion now yeah and that's the problem with stuff like uh this alex jones thing most people uh don't even know the full details of the of the trial and I'm not going to pretend to either. I think if you watch someone like Viva Frye, you might get a much, much better understanding

of how the court case played out and everything like that. But then you take a look at like the Ahmaud Arbery case. You take a look at the Kyle Rittenhouse case. There are mobs with pitchforks going around demanding violent ends to, you know, and they don't even know what happened like hands up don't

shoot people were riding over the michael brown stuff that turned out to be fake ferguson was the west florissant in ferguson was burnt to the ground all these buildings over lies lies from the media and the media went there and they were all gloating and talking about it was a great networking event these people are nasty people man so i. So I don't think this is going to be a devastating blow against Alex Jones because he is very persistent. And I think he's definitely going to figure out a lot of different ways around this. I think he already has safeguarded a lot of his assets and a lot of his businesses. But also, more importantly, a lot of legal experts are saying that he's going to win on appeal when it comes to, of course, challenging this major decision.

There's still, again, one more court hearing that's going to, of course, be going after him. But more importantly, I think with hyperinflation, the $1 billion is going to be a cakewalk, especially with the value of the dollar going down with the Federal Reserve quantitative easing policies that have utterly destroyed our currency. And a billion dollars is going to be nothing in a few months from now. Let's jump to this next one. This is from Candace Owens, who tweeted, Earlier today, I learned that Kanye West was officially kicked out of JPMorgan Chase Bank. I was told there was no official reason given,

but they sent this letter as well to confirm that he has until late November to find another place for the Yeezy Empire 2 bank. This is nuts. Here's a letter that says, Dear Yee, is that his real name? Yeah, he had it officially changed. Wow, all right, there you go. We are sending this letter to confirm

our recent discussion with blank. JP Morgan Bank has decided to end its banking relationship with Yeezy LLC, et cetera, et cetera. The first thing I'm going to say before we get into the political ramifications of this is make sure you are using Parallel Economy. I know it's a relatively new financial service co-founded by Dan Bongino. Shout out to Dan, who's doing tremendous work to help fight back against censorship. If you become a member at TimCast.com, we default Parallel Economy.

Support businesses that are fighting back, that believe in these values. Parallel Economy is one of them. Kanye West, I will say it right now, Candace Owens, Kanye West these values. Parallel economy is one of them. Kanye West, I will say it right now. Candace Owens, Kanye West, talk to parallel economy. They're not a bank. They do financial transaction services, but talk to them because if Kanye said, okay, I won't use Chase. I'll use this bank and I'll use this financial service. It can be a major movement towards pushing back against censorship. And Kanye is big enough to make a huge impact on that regard, in that regard. So here we go, ladies and gentlemen. You will own nothing and you will be happy.

You want to take this one or should I? You don't own your money anyway. People think that's their money. That's a Federal Reserve note. It's on loan. They can take them back if they want. They can shut you down. Doesn't it even say on money or something about that?

It says Federal Reserve note. It's a promissory note. They give it to the American government. The American government promises to pay them back a dollar plus interest for every dollar they borrow. It's such an insane system. So Ethereum, right, Luke? No. No?

The other guy was shilling for it. But that's another topic to discuss here. Again, decentralized currencies are another thing, but the Federal Reserve is building their own centralized digital currency, which is going to lead to behavior like this tenfold. And this is not the first time that a major banking institution punished someone

because of their opinions. I think that's what's happening here. We don't know exactly what's happening here. Maybe there's some accusations by Chase Manhattan that they didn't want to, of course, make public, but it's most likely what's been happening previously before. And that's, we don't like your opinion. We're going to make sure you can't exist in society. We're going to make sure that you as an individual can't have any free flow of transactions,

which is absolutely crazy. Can I just give a shout out real quick to Candace Owen's profile picture on Twitter? It's the communist fist appropriated by BLM holding wads of cash. And it's melting. That's funny. You don't like Ethereum? I question everything and I'm skeptical of everything.

So, again, when it comes to, you know, a lot of these digital currencies, I think skepticism is your best friend. Ethereum is clearly better than Bitcoin, Luke. Mark Zuckerberg is your friend. Yeah, I told people from the very beginning, invest what you're willing to lose

because it's a wild west market. I do believe there are tremendous opportunities for decentralization, especially when it comes to privacy coins, things like Monero. There's a reason the IRS is sending out messages and letters saying, please help us crack Monero.

There's a reason Amazon and Jeff Bezos are building technology that will break, of course, encryption. So I do believe in privacy coins, but I don't believe in what the World Economic Forum and a lot of the other big bankers are pushing, and that's centralized digital currencies. The CEO of BlackRock was just talking about how the situation in Ukraine is going to lead to a bigger push for centralized digital currencies that's essentially what they're pushing for a social credit score where they will track trace and database and punish you on the fly for wrong think just like they probably did to kanye westwood chase manhattan bank i'm pretty flabbergasted i

didn't know that banks and paypal of course at the moment i didn't know they could actually do this based on your views. They can just say, okay, well, we're going to take your money or you can't use us for your money. I had no idea that was allowed. They can't do that in the UK? Well, I think they can, but I didn't know. I didn't know until recently. Yeah, I'd imagine it's probably worse in the UK.

Yeah, quite possibly. The PayPal stuff started happening to quite a few people I know in the UK. I started seeing it happening on Twitter. Loads of people saying, well, my PayPal's closed. No one's told me why. don't know what's going on i mean i've been stressed out about the whole free speech thing for quite some time now just the way people are clamping down on it using uh culture and the press to stop people just having views look the kanye west thing i'm jewish i've grown up jewish my family's jewish friends are jewish you know properly actually jewish it's very

offensive what he said i take it with a pinch of salt because he's kanye west you know he says mad things all the time and whatever you hear it every day anyway so okay whatever but i i don't i wouldn't want to have a bank that doesn't allow people who disagree with me or say horrible things to me to be able to keep their money there and it's the same with speech i want people who've got opposite opinions to mine to be able to say whatever they want and and people can decide if they want to listen to them you know would you have have debanked Hitler if you were running the bank that he was using when he declared war on Poland? I think once you've started a war,

it might be a bit different if you're trying to stop it. But I don't know. That's over my pay grade. What would you have done? He was getting financed by the Bushes and the Rockefellers. I would have debanked him and used my bank as a weapon to win the war. I mean, I'll be honest.

That's what this is. I mean, we say it's a culture war. We kind of joke and laugh. It's a real culture war. Sure. It's a domination for your mind. Sure. But that's different.

That's you trying to win a war. We're not trying to win a war against Kanye West. But sanctions and war happen all the time. Tons of people say, we're no longer going to do business with you and your money's frozen. This is a private citizen in the United States being told that he's being kicked off of a bank. Now, we don't know exactly why. They didn't say why, but we know why. He's in the news States being told that he's being kicked off of a bank. Now, we don't know exactly why. They didn't say why, but we know why. He's in the news.

They're saying he's offensive. I think this is actually really, really bad for Chase, and they made a big mistake because we saw what happened with PayPal. Their stock is down. I don't know where it's at right now. Let me check PayPal stock for the day because it was up early. Let's see where it's at. So it's up 0.87%.

But in the past five days, they're down 10%. So since this news broke over the weekend, they're down 10%. Dude, while you're here, look at their last five years. Look at what happened April 2020 to PayPal stock. COVID is announced. Guess how all these people made three times the money and then sold it all. And then they went back to normal. Someone tripled their money.

It was lots of- Yeah, but that means someone lost their money. I imagine it was pension funds. I think a cabal of organizations tripled their money by investing in PayPal through the pandemic and then got out. And then a bunch of people that were trying to ride the wave probably bought in while it was up. Yeah, people knew commerce was going to, of course, happen online and not in person and

not in real life. So it was an investment that a lot of people predicted. I've heard stories from people who bought Moderna stock. Someone told me this. They bought Moderna stock right at the start of the pandemic because they were like, oh, the media is talking about it. And then what was that, like a 100 times increase or like a 40 times increase on your money investing in these machines and then getting rich off them like investing in paypal knowing that people have to buy online and they can't use you know mom and pop stores and bodega so there was money to be made i don't i don't think it's

necessarily necessarily the what you think it is ian it's probably that a lot of powerful elites were playing games i think a lot of it was people being like i'm gonna invest in in paypal and amazon and netflix and all of their stocks skyrocketed because people couldn't leave their houses so maybe maybe it wasn't a paul pelosi is that yeah nancy's husband nancy husband yeah the glorious paul paul pelosi great trader smart guy it's very smart you know on wall street it's almost like he's like psychic like he just knows these things are going to happen or like he has like a like his wife like has some inside scoop or something yeah it's almost like his wife is the speaker of the house and has an inside track on what bills are moving probably more likely that he's psychic

it's almost as his wife is making all the decisions in big industry that of course is directly correlated to some of the big trades that he's making welcome to the modern era my friends they went after kanye west man i guess that's what that's what happens well we still don't know exactly what happened here. We could speculate. It's probably because of his more spicy, controversial topics and conversations. I've been seeing a little scuttlebutt of what he's been saying. But again, when banks get more involved, when there's more social pressure,

this is creating a society that is essentially a social credit score. You can't think the wrong things. You can't express the wrong things. And even if you do express the wrong ideas, at least have the ability to be able to, of course, have them challenged, have them questioned, because that's how you stop someone from believing in bad things. You question those things and you actually talk them through it instead of just censoring them, which actually pushes them to the further extremes and has them go to places where they get more radicalized and they get more crazy belief systems which again is psychologically proven to be true i think that you're right that diplomacy and communication

is the way is kind of the united states was based on a bunch of people that didn't agree got together and then they started figuring it out together. And they didn't have global wars. But the problem now is that I don't speak Russian. I don't speak Mandarin. And so to debate and have conversation globally in this new – it'd be like if people in West Virginia spoke Mandarin, but people in Massachusetts spoke Russian, but we're still expected for those people to somehow work together.

It wouldn't have happened. They had a common language. And now in the globe, we don't have a common language. We kind of have English, but I don't understand the Russian guys speaking Russian. And that's a big... And I don't understand

what Kanye West is saying half the time, to be completely honest. Yeah. It's like hard to... Oh, yeah. We listened to one of his shows, him and Rogan.

And Tim was like, I do not understand. I was like, I get every word, man. He's just a wild... He's too bad at frequency. Yeah. No, his Tucker Carlson interview was very coherent.

It was very good. Yeah, we listened to that. I thought it was Elick one day. Yeah, and then Feist came out and was like, listen to what Kanye really said, but Tucker edited it out. And I was like, that's like one controversial thing.

He's a black Hebrew Israelite, I guess. Kanye West believes that he's a true Jew. And I'm like, I don't know. Maybe Tucker Carlson took it out because it didn't flow the conversation. And it's like they cut it for time. Oh, because Judaism is passed through blood. That's the idea. And so he says his great ancestors were Jewish.

No, no, no, no. Black Hebrew Israelites believe that black people are the true children of Israel or whatever. And that the people there currently are like occupying it and stole it from them or something. Interesting philosophy. When BLM first started getting really big a year or two ago, that was quite a difficult time for a lot of Jewish people because a lot of anti-Semitism came from there.

And then there was a lot of sort of Jewish black rivalry stuff going on for about a year or so. So I lived in Crown Heights in Brooklyn and there was a huge jewish like there were shootouts between jewish acidic jewish people and and the black community like it was weird yeah and uh they just had like a mobile command at like this dividing line between the two neighborhoods and i just i didn't i didn't really understand it but then i uh several years later when i started i was covering a riot in baltimore and these kids were talking about

they were is there were uh they were muslim these kids were talking about, they were Muslim. And they started talking about a lot of this stuff. They were just like coming up to the cameras and then yelling stuff. And then people started explaining to me like Farrakhan and all this stuff I wasn't super familiar with. And I was like, ah, okay, I get it. Right, so you've got these people who believe really, really anti-Semitic things.

We saw the reporting from, I think it was the New York Times and Tablet about the heads of BLM were extremely anti-Semitic, spreading these conspiracy theories about Jewish people and all that stuff. Well, this was a really weird time because BLM was everywhere in the UK. The UK, in some senses, is further left and more woke than America. In other ways, in other senses, it's the opposite. We tend to take our lead from you guys. Something happens here and six months

later it's like all over the uk and blm of course that happened in the uk and it almost doesn't make sense the statistics and everything in the uk didn't really make sense i think like three uh black people over 10 years had been killed by police or whatever it's a total we don't have as many black people in the uk it's a totally different thing but blm went crazy and then i had to go to like soccer games right and i would see just like the t-shirts had blm all over them blm was written everywhere and i'm just sitting there with my dad and that and we're just watching it like as jewish people we're like where's my where's my decision in this because i know that the organization i don't necessarily have a problem with the words black lives matter but

that organization the anarcho-marxist uh anti-semitic thing why do i have to watch that on my football club now yeah it was it wasn't nice to have to watch so you you talk all about cults and stuff like that we mentioned earlier in the show that the wokeness is very much a kind of cult but uh what are your thoughts on all this in the united states in the uk just generally in the west it's it's just a bit what i think it comes from uh status and um or status i think you guys say, right? Yeah. Yeah, so status.

There's a theory, and I owe a writer called Will Storr for this, about status. We sort of evolved in tribes, and there were three types of status. One was dominance, one was success, and one was virtue. So you could either, you would get more of the food if you were particularly dominant in a tribe. You would get more of the food if you were particularly dominant in a tribe. You would get more of the food if you were successful. If you're successful in a tribe,

you would start, you're maybe good at making the fire. You invented the wheel. Everybody's going to share their food with you. Now, if you're not particularly dominant as a person, if you're not particularly successful, the third option was virtue. And you had to show that you're a really nice guy you're

going to share your food with people you know you're going to help someone if they need it then they're going to share their food food with you but the thing was you didn't actually have to be virtuous you didn't have to actually help people you had to make it appear like you just signal your virtue exactly that exactly that and they found like uh there have been studies shown that people who do that a lot are more likely to be psychopathic or narcissistic. Does that make sense? I wonder if what we're seeing is basically there's like this grand restart or something, a great reset that's happening. And what happens then is people who don't have purpose become wayward.

You know, what is it? The idle hands, the devil's playground so you have a bunch of people who have nothing to do no specialties no expertise they're just listless wandering npcs or whatever irrelevant and so in this hollow hole in their heart they fill it with fake purpose and so they join the machine and that's why they're so adamant about never giving it up no matter what. Why is it that we had Larry Elder here? And he says, you know, I tried showing the quote, the transcription from Trump, where

Trump did not say, you know, very fine people and stuff. He said the white supremacist should be condemned totally. And they refused to read it. It's because they have nothing in their hearts. And so, you know, for me, I play music. I play Magic the Gathering. I skateboard. I rollerblade.

We're writing songs. We talk politics. I am very full of purpose. But what about someone who has nothing? What about someone who's not really that good at playing guitar? What about someone who's not really good at playing games? What if someone has no hobbies and they have no friends? The only thing they have is to latch on to this ideology.

That's the one thing they have. And then on to this ideology that's the one thing they have and then you come along the nerve of you trying to give them the truth yeah which would shatter the only thing they have in their hearts they won't allow that they go nuts and that's why they they get violent on behalf of it it's the only thing they have their only passion you're spot on i think that's exactly it but i think it's the same reason people sometimes go really far right it's the same reason people get into scientology or mormonism or whatever it is often they don't quite have something in their lives i always remember you know when i i was a bit uh i don't think i was woke but maybe liberal when i was like 18 19 years old you go to university right you know when you go and everybody's got in their dorms like posters

of like this is who i am i'm someone who likes the godfather and it's like well everyone likes the godfather you know but that's my individuality and and hopefully as you get older you start to as you say take up more interests you don't identify it you know everyone's got in their pronoun you know pronouns or whatever it might be in their twitter profile and you know why do we need to know or that well i want to know if you play guitar as you say i want to know what you do in your life what's interesting and those are the people i think sometimes who who are led into cultish groups. They don't have anything. So I like to skate, was rollerblading earlier today. And every day when I

do, I'm trying to one-up myself. So I'm trying to go higher on the vert ramp, or I'm trying to do something I've never done before. And that's fulfilling, and it's accomplishment. I'm challenging myself every day. But if you're someone who doesn't have that, then the only thing you have to give you that dopamine release is going to be fitting in and having someone else praise you or feeling like, you know, you're flatched onto something. Or eating.

Yeah, eating. Or eating. Maybe that's why a lot of them are morbidly obese. No joke. That fills the... If you feel depression, you want serotonin, you eat. That's a big thing. That definitely raises your mood.

Well, you know, and the food's being engineered to become addictive, but that's another process in itself. I remember a couple of years ago looking at psychological studies, specifically when it came to radical jihadists. And a lot of psychologists found that it was poverty and polyamory that led to, of course, people becoming radicalists because there wasn't enough women for the guys to go around. One guy would marry 10 to 12 to 15 to 20 wives, and there wasn't enough wives to go around because of the poverty, because of the lack of education. A lot of people just went to extremist groups. So when you look at those conditions, when you look at what's happening in today's day and age in the dating world, when you look at what's happening financially with the

banks and the big multinational corporations pretty much stealing everyone's money, we're pretty much creating the same situation for radicalization. So yes, things are not going to be good with so many people radicalized, with so many people going to the fringes and going to these extremist groups

that they're going to be taken advantage of with. And now we have the cults becoming prominent in government, in major corporations and institutions. Have you studied or read up on other tradition, more traditional cults? Stuff like Scientology or Nixxiom or those kinds of things? Sure. I don't know about those specifically. Those are more modern, but I mean, there have been, you know, was it Jim Jones, is that his name?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Jonestown. Jonestown. That was mad. I use those because i think we have well actually scientology might be about a good example as well but i think jonestown is it's very definitive it had an end there's a lot of that we know about it what what are are there similarities or can you can you look at something like that and then try and predict where we go with the modern woke cult well jonestown i think is is really rare just in terms of how i mean i use the word cultish to think you know something is cultish maybe it's one out of ten cultish and jonestown was 10 out of 10 scientology is like a 9 out of 10 or a 10 out

of 10 or something uh heaven's gate was the other one do you remember that one oh yeah was that where they thought they were going to go on the comet or whatever yeah yeah yeah i mean they drink the kool-aid too yeah so that's actually a misnomer the kool-aid thing i think it wasn't kool-aid it was something else but it got it got remembered as kool-aid yes i love how it you know always like this this story is it's relatively modern i was in the 90s yeah i think so and now drink the kool-aid has become like a slang term for buying into something and it's wrong oh it was flavored yeah it was yeah oh not flavor aid it was uh cyanide poison force and if you there's video audio of them eating it and people didn't want to they were

refusing they were screaming they were taking babies away from mothers to poison the baby and the mothers were screaming i think it's horrific it's on youtube are you talking about jim jones now jones down okay that's all jones. I don't know about Heaven's Gate. So Jonestown, yeah, people believe that they all killed themselves. And they're like, how did that happen? And that's not really what happened. They tried to escape, as you say. And there were security guards just shooting them and killing them all dead.

You've got to listen to that. It's like a 40-minute video on YouTube. Because they're cultists. The guy in charge, Jim Jones, was being caught. I think the FBI, I think it was, or would it have been the CIA, were in Guyana sort of checking up on him and he knew his days were numbered right so it was like okay this is the next step we all have to we all have to kill ourselves now so I think it's rare that people get absolutely swept up to a point that they're willing to actually kill themselves like that I think there's and I think that's the same with the a lot of you know we talk about the woke ideology stuff I think deep deep down and the woke stuff goes back to the New Puritans.

I talk about the Puritans. Andrew Doyle is great on that. I interviewed him recently. He's fantastic. He's got this book called The New Puritans just about how similar the witch hunting stuff is to a lot of the woke ideology. And they knew it wasn't real, the witch hunting people,

but they knew that if they said anything, just like now, if they said anything, they'd be next. You'd get shouted down, right? Yeah. So that's probably the closest thing, I think, in terms of like historic cults and how that relates to today. So maybe in 50 to 100 years, they'll talk about the cancel culture trials and how absurd and crazy everybody was. And we'll come out on the right side of this one.

So it's that they think that if they cause enough pain to the enemy, that they're actually causing good to the ones they love. I mean, I don't understand. Like, what was the impetus of the witch hunts why were they doing it i've heard that they were on ergot that they were inadvertently dosing themselves with ergot oh i don't know it was like a fungus fungus on wheat that causes hallucinations and so they were tripping balls they didn't know it so they thought he's a witch she's a witch i'm a witch they didn't know and it's also slightly it also has to do with uh the fact that people have like the hag's dream you never heard of that the hag's dream when you fall asleep and you feel like someone's in the room, right? Right, right. It's just an evolutionary trait that allows you to think oh if there's something in the room

You will you're awake, but you're not moving your body keeps you from moving and I get that sleep paralysis I get that my girlfriend has to wake me up. I'm like I'm like in my head. I'm screaming I think I'm screaming. I'm gonna go But what's actually happening is I'm going? Which is freaky for my girlfriend in the morning like she's gotta be like okay no but they wake me up and all that it's just like it's it's it's freaky yeah but but that's it but the thing with the witch thing and which also relates to modern times because you guys were talking before about when it's powerful people it doesn't you know the

same rules don't apply the the the girls that were accusing everyone they did towards the end when it was falling apart they did accuse people who end, when it was falling apart, they did accuse people who were quite prominent. And everybody just sort of went, what? Shut up. And then they had to shut up after that. The witch hunts. Yeah, yeah.

Wow. They tried to reach too high. And then powerful people said, no. Kind of like when they went after Rogan with the ivermectin thing. Yes. Well, not just that. They went after Rogan for a lot of things

and it just doesn't work. Nothing sticks. Yeah, sometimes it's overt nonsense. You realize. Yeah. Well, that's that. They won't have to run for a lot of things, and it just doesn't work. Nothing sticks. Yeah, sometimes it's overt nonsense, you realize. Yeah. Well, that's what happens. Eventually, the veil gets shattered, I guess. And people are just like, okay, wait a minute. You know, what's really going on here?

But I think it's like most things, it's just confidence. Do the people have enough confidence of other people to engage in insane behavior? People were like, even really intelligent people i mean all of us probably get misled and led down certain rabbit holes and we don't even realize it my favorite example is arthur conan doyle who wrote sherlock holmes and he's supposed to be the master of deduction sherlock holmes so arthur conan doyle is super clever person and there's a great book called the intelligence trap about exactly this that the cleverer the person is the better able they are to convince themselves of mad conspiracies because they're smart so it's confirmation bias so arthur conan doyle believed in fairies and

that was at a time when people did not believe in fairies no no it wasn't like oh it was back in the olden times but he just was obsessed and he was mates with Houdini, the magician. And Houdini was like an absolute skeptic. And they fell out over that. What? Yeah, big argument over that. And also because Arthur Conan Doyle kept trying to get Houdini to do this like clairvoyant stuff and speak to his dead mother and mad stuff like that. And Houdini's like, it's that real? Yeah.

And Arthur Conan Doyle was like, those fairies are real. But the fairies were a prank by some young girls they just put up some pictures of fairies and put like a drawing pin in the in the stomach and just put it like like little paper fairies and he believed that and he thought that the drawing pin the little pin in the stomach that was evidence that they had belly buttons and so they so they had children it was like fairies can reproduce that was what he was thinking this is a super smart guy so i think what's happening is as you said there's like all these people who are perhaps really intelligent like we we like to think of oh you joined scientology you must be an idiot a lot of them is really into i've met some really intelligent ex-scientologists um but maybe they're lacking some sort of purpose and then someone comes along

and says no no you've got purpose you're going to sign a one billion year contract which is what they have to do and you're gonna with each bit of money you put in you're going to learn more secret stuff about um aliens and lord xeno that's scientology that's scientology they have to do. And you're going to, with each bit of money you put in, you're going to learn more secret stuff about aliens and Lord Zeno. That's Scientology? That's Scientology, yeah. That's a billion-year contract? Yeah. What?

Because you're immortal or something? Do you know the Scientology backstory? Only a little bit. About the Thetans? Yeah, yeah. Dropping them in the volcano and stuff. It's fantastic. So they now say this isn't what they think,

but it is. It is. This is the problem with the internet. It's ruined cults because cults are supposed to be they're supposed to be a level that you can't reach because it's like the secret level right and until you put enough money in but now we have the internet so it's just there so now scientology has to go out and say no no no that's not true until you get to that stage and go yeah it was true actually um so it is yeah lord zeno and and he lords they they lived somewhere else and he killed everyone in this alien planet and all the spirits went away into earth into the volcanoes of earth

and they went out and into everybody's yeah bodies now and now you have like a bunch of ghosts inside you or something is that it yeah i was uh i was i was in hollywood and i was skating and you got the scientology thing on hollywood boulevard yeah i think it's on hollywood's at the street i live right next to it. It's between Sunset and Franklin or Hollywood and Franklin. So I'm skating and then I see a guy with the book and he's outside and he's waving as I'm coming up. So I stop.

And then he's like, hey, how's it going? He talks to me. And he asked me if I knew anything about Dianetics because I think that's what it says, like Scientology. And then I was like, no. And he was like, do you know anything about Scientology? And I was like, just what I've seen from the TV. I was like,ology and then i was like no and he was like do you know anything about scientology and i was like just what i've seen from the tv i was like don't you guys believe like aliens and like volcanoes and he goes that's what the uh the cartoon says do you get all your

facts from cartoons self-talk and i was like no and he goes oh so how about we actually tell you what we do and i was like sure i came in and sat down and then they gave me the e-meter and then yeah yeah for real and then i put my hands on it or whatever. And I'm like, nothing's happening. I have no idea what you're talking about. And then the guy asked me if I would be interested in better understanding and buying the book. So I actually bought Dianetics. Now I'm completely skeptical.

I think it was like 20 bucks. Yeah. But I was like, how can I be critical of something I've never actually read? If I don't know what they're talking about, it's simple for me to watch South Park and then be like, the TV said you're dumb, but that would be stupid. And so I think I actually got

maybe like 50 pages in and then laughed and then put it down. I was like, I can't read this. Because I think for me, it seemed really obvious how the manipulation worked. It's like my view of it is it's a false logic.

Like it'll say something hey did you ever experience this feeling yeah that's because of this thing and then you go oh i could see how that works if they can make you using sophistry go from point a to point b to c to d to e they're walking you towards they're creating the reality they're they're they're building the logical structure for you to and i read that analysis like you know people fall for this stuff they read it and believe it speaking on the integrity of scientology i lived in hollywood and did a uh a video a movie for science that scientology group they had me and my girlfriend come in they want to do something on the right to marriage so they were like okay for this you guys are married tell everyone how happy you are

so we're like okay so we faked lied that we were they got a non-married couple to pretend like they were married because they liked the way they looked like you're gonna say you had to lie that you were happy but no we had to lie that we were married so this is like a church technically telling telling having non-married people pretend that they're married like it's it's a lie i was lying uh for the scientologists and they paid me to lie for them yeah Yeah, sounds like them. I want to jump to another segment, but we're going to grab this super text that just came in. Sleep is the cousin of death, says Tim, making fun of Scientology, but thinks God's real.

Oh, boy. You see, this is the challenging thing, I guess, about trying to talk to people about physics, spirituality, reality, understanding, philosophy, et cetera, et cetera. I could be wrong, but Einstein believed in God. He was not an atheist. That's where the phrase Einsteinian God comes from. Maybe it's wrong. But the idea of Einsteinian God is that phrase is used to explain to people who don't understand.

They don't understand, I guess, how do you describe it? Concepts beyond knowledge, right? Infinity. What does infinity truly mean? How do you perceive dimensions beyond three? So there are certain ideas that we understand can exist, but it's hard for us to conceptualize, we can describe. So with the issue of Einsteinian God, you talk to your average person, you say, like, describe God. And they'll say, you know, a guy with a beard, he's in the clouds, and he's got white hair or whatever. And that's like a weird cartoon depiction of some religious deity. But this is why I say I don't believe in any organized religion.

The simplest way to put it is God, in my view, is just there is a system by which we exist in. We understand the system of a computer program. We understand that we as humans are mapping out reality. The simplest way to put it is God is the universe. There is a greater power that exists beyond us. It is the structure and code of the universe. It exists. That's the most rudimentary way to explain it to someone who thinks God is a person in the clouds. Now, a lot of religious people genuinely do believe that God is a person who is above us or around us or whatever, and that's on them. But if your assumption immediately is when I say I believe in God, you think I'm talking about a guy in the sky, then you are not, then you genuinely do not know enough about the subject. And I don't mean that disrespectfully.

I mean, my view of this comes from reading religious texts, growing up briefly Catholic, reading about quantum physics, reading philosophy, and then going, we don't know half. We don't know anything. We know so little. And from that perspective, I would need probably a couple hours. We've done this in the Members Only shows, breaking down the long trail of thought to understand the concept that I'm trying to get to. There's no way I could do it in 10 minutes without making a whole show dedicated to it. But simply put, my view of God is not a guy in the clouds. It is well, well, well, well beyond that.

I want you to imagine infinity. You know what infinity means, right? A lot of people think infinity is a number. It's not. Infinity means everything beyond and endlessly. And I want you to imagine things that don't exist. I want you to imagine a color you've never seen before. I want you to imagine the fourth dimension. How do you do it? You can't. You can understand a three-dimensional projection of the fourth dimension, and we can mathematically show how a fourth dimension will work, even though we can't conceptualize it outside of just drawing a mathematical picture. So there's so much to break down to get through that.

I'll leave it there. Maybe we'll talk about it when it comes to cults and we'll do in the members only section. But let's jump to this story from CBS12.com. NBC reporters interview with PA Senate candidate John Fetterman draws criticism. So in this interview with NBC Fetterman, who's running, he's a Democrat in Pennsylvania. He can't actually understand the words that are being said to him because in May he suffered a very serious stroke and it was debilitating and it caused him very serious brain damage. I'm not saying that as a pejorative or to be disrespectful.

He literally is suffering from this. In the interview, let me play it here. I'm not going to, I don't care to play her audio. They show in the, I think I just passed it actually. So let me see if I can play it. And well, you know, I'll pull the audio up. What has the press been like? And are you confident going into that debate? It's going to be.

So they do editing because, here you go. There you go. In this image, you can see right here in order for Fetterman to actually answer the questions. They have a special program that transcribes the words she's saying into written text so we can read it and then answer. This led to a whole bunch of people saying he's clearly not mentally fit to do the job. How is he going to stand on the Senate floor and debate an idea when people are saying, John, you are wrong. Your bill would do X, Y, and Z. And he goes, I, I can't understand anything.

I can hear the words, but my brain can't process it. This is not someone being deaf. A bunch of these woke journalists, Democrats and liberals were like, we don't discriminate against people who can't hear. He can hear. He can hear perfectly. His brain cannot process the audio. That to hear. He can hear perfectly. His brain cannot process the audio. That to me is very, very serious. Yeah, I'll tell you this, man.

They voted for Joe Biden. Hopefully, hopefully they learned their lesson. I think a lot of people will have learned the lesson. I think a lot of people won't. But to all these people, I say to you, you voted for Joe Biden, right? You thought, how bad can it really be? How bad can it? It's better than Trump. When you vote for someone who is cognitively impaired, you get disaster. You get crisis. You get deficits. You get shutting down of Keystone and how gas prices are skyrocketing. And then a weird justification to the media that shutting down and curtailing US energy had nothing to do with the fact that gas is skyrocketing and now six, seven bucks in California. If you vote in this man, and I feel bad for him.

I mean, no disrespect. I mean, a stroke is serious. I feel bad and I hope, I wish him the best, but we need people who are physically and mentally capable to do the job. I think they'll vote for him though. Well, it's not only that. Outside of politics, if you suffer a serious brain injury, you got to rest. You got to relax. You got to give your brain time to heal correctly. And just by shoving him into the camera, shoving him on stage all the time, that's not good for an individual who suffered a severe injury to his mind. And, you know, if people really did care about this individual, if people really were looking out for his best interest,

they would be making sure he healed correctly before putting him up putting him up there on the stage yeah yeah i mean i have had a brain injury as well i had a brain injury in 2015 i fell asleep driving and hit an accident response vehicle on the road and i cannot even imagine being put on stage let alone you know having to be representative for people that are voting me into power and into the united states like i don't remember if he's running for the house congress i forgot what he's running for now but i would never want to be in that situation. It would be unbelievably hellish. It'd be extremely stressful because just coming out of that is already such a challenge. So what did you do to recover? Um, I spent some time with my parents

actually in the UK, funnily enough. Um, but, uh, I, it took me, I would say you feel like you're recovered after about a year or two years, but you really only realize maybe five years later that, wow, okay, now I'm fully recovered from my brain injury. So I honestly can't even remember or imagine what he's going through right now. Not to give him quarter or anything like that, but I would never, never put myself in the situation where I'm being representative for other people, let alone being forced to read to respond to everything. That's wild. Wild. A lot of soldiers on the front lines of battlefields are told to not be on the battlefield for too long because of the concussions and the shooting

and the grenades and the explosions and the sounds literally rock their heads to the point where they get serious brain injuries they're told literally get off the battlefield go into a dark quiet room and make sure there's no stimuli make sure you could actually rest and relax your brain so when you're put on stage when you're being quizzed during an interview when you're taking questions from individuals you're not allowing your brain to rest when you can't even interpret sounds you're not allowing your brain to rest so it's just a sad situation overall and it's sad seeing him slur his words and you know a lot of people are using this for political uh you know talking points but it's beyond that i think but but

come on the dude should have dropped out the democratic party should have said look man you had a stroke i'm sorry but i think as much as i can say i'm sorry to the man for having a stroke and i wish him the best where i will criticize him heavily is his arrogance. His arrogance and thinking, I'm going to keep going. Okay, man. We see what happens with Joe Biden. And now you're going to get it in Pennsylvania

when the people vote for this guy. It's going to be bad. He's going to be in a meeting and someone's going to say something like, there's an emergency and we have to act now. There's a crisis on the bridge. He's going to be going, I don't know what you're saying. You need to call it in now.

We've got a flood. There's damage. There's people dying. Can someone get a CC machine in here so I can understand? What do you do? I'm sorry, man. This is a guy. Look, I get it.

He's running for Senate. He's not running for, you know, he's a tenant governor now. That's bad enough. He should have resigned. I don't know if he's still tenant governor now. That's bad enough. He should have resigned. I don't know if he's still in that position, but he's going to be on the Senate floor and they're going to be saying there's an emergency. They're going to bring him in and they're going to, they're going to have to get him a special computer.

Look, technology is fantastic. Before this technology existed, even maybe 10 years ago, he'd be done. That's it. Sorry. Have a nice day. You can't understand words being said to you can't do this job and because of technology we've invented that can transcribe the words into text which is a relatively new thing he is now saying okay i can do it yo i have tried using transcription

transcription software there have been many circumstances where like biden's giving a speech and i need to grab like a chunk of the quote and I'm like, I gotta write this down. So what I'll try to do is I'll download voice to text or I'll use the internal voice to text and it's full of errors. And what happens when someone says something like, imagine this person saying, listen to your my sister. And then it says, Mr. instead of my sister.

There's like a words get jumbled too quickly and then he's reading it and he reads the wrong thing and gives a bad answer. Right. Yeah, they make mistakes all the time it's not perfect technology it's it's new technology you know when whenever you have captions even on social media you have to look through every single word because there could be a big mistake there that the algorithm could find and pick up and automatically ban you for even using specific words on a lot of the social media platforms. Imagine.

But I just kind of want to point out, is it really him or is it the people behind him? Because again, this is a man who suffered a serious injury. Does he even like how aware of he is of the current situation? And a lot of people, when they're injured, they don't want to see themselves as injured. A lot of times they don't want to heal. They don't want to rest. So he might be pushed by other individuals, by other interests who are saying, this is too much of an important race for us to lose. There might be a democratic machine, special

interest, big money saying, hey, we invested in you. We want our payout. We don't care. Go out there on stage, sing a dance for us. Because a lot of politics is that. Big money controlling individuals to be their puppets. Politicians are puppets in my opinion. And to me, there's a lot of politics is that. Big money controlling individuals to be their puppets. Politicians are puppets in my opinion. And to me, there's a lot of puppet hands behind this major race that the whole nation is looking at. Here's another interesting tidbit. He probably could watch this podcast of us critiquing

and talking about his health and he wouldn't understand it at all. The closed captioning auto-generated on these videos or whatever, for, you know, I'm thinking like, what if Ben Shapiro was trying to tell him something? Ben Shapiro talks fast? He does.

So you get someone like, you know, imagine someone says, John, you got to watch the latest Daily Wire with Ben Shapiro. He says a bunch of things you need to, you know, you'll want to be apprised of. He can't. And he's been talking really, really fast.

There's a prominent issue when it deals with taxes in the United States government, and we've got all these senators that are coming in, and he's going to be apprised of. And you're talking really, really fast. There's a prominent issue when it deals with taxes in the United States government. We've got all these senators that are coming in and he's going to be like the voice, the text doesn't work on this. It's really sad. You know, I'm thinking the whole time.

Yeah, but maybe it can work. And I don't, I don't think it can. I don't think it can work. We're not there yet. Yeah. I can understand why he'd want to do it.

And I, and I understand. Do you think he's more likely to win now though? Well, right now the aggregate polling has him six points up. But we've seen from aggregate polling in the past several elections, a seven point swing in favor of Democrats. So it looks like it may actually go to Dr. Oz. And NBC in this interview said the race is now a toss up. Look, I think the average person in Pennsylvania is sitting

there going like, I'm sorry, dude. You know, I like you, but you can't do the job. Look, if I need to hire someone to pick up boulders and you show up and you're in a wheelchair, what am I supposed to do? I mean, I don't even know what the legality is on that, but if you can't pick up a boulder, how do I hire you to pick up a boulder?

If we're hiring a person to argue, debate, and push policy, and he can't understand the words that are being said to him, how does he do the job? I'm shocked that he's demanding that people actually support him in that regard. Yeah, that's what bothers me. I want to like him, and I don't because of his arrogance was a good word, actually. It's arrogance.

Yeah, it's really annoying. I broke my hand, but I'm playing the guitar. You can't stop me. Pull back, bro, and then run again in like four years. You can run again. Run when your body's rested and healthy. Do a float tank. I don't know if psilocybin is right for you.

Do something to help repair neural pathways. You're okay. But don't take on this responsibility right now. There have been some studies with psychedelic mushrooms showing that they could actually heal some kind of brain damage. I'm not a doctor. I'm not here trying to give any medical advice, but there are some preliminary studies that I think are worthwhile to look at.

It's called neurogenesis, and it's how you regrow brain cells. It's the function of regrowing brain cells. You can do it, John. Modern politics. But I think that's illegal, though. I think that's illegal in Pennsylvania. Yeah, you would need to work with a doctor. In Washington, D.C., it's legal. Really, I think. In Washington, DC, it's legal.

Really? Yeah. Like psilocybin recreationally or medicinally? Medicinally. I know someone taking it in Washington, DC right now. I think Colorado, it's recreational, right? And Oregon? Yeah.

Well, all drugs are decriminalized in Oregon, so you can find it there. Really? Yeah. Is that what's going on in Portland? I think so. That's part of what's going on in Portland. That must be it that explains everything you got a whole bunch of people showing up wearing all black some are on shrooms

some are on acid some smoke too much some drank too much some injected too much and it's all just some people did it all I think it's a lot more complicated than that especially with George Soros' involvement but that's another topic to discuss here I think Switzerland is also that way.

And I think they've got, I remember reading about, they've got these little sort of cabins in their parks where you can go, and I don't know on this channel if you can say, but the H that you inject. Heroin. You can say that?

Yeah. Sean doesn't let me say that on his channel. You can inject heroin. You go in and it's all clean and you just go and inject. There's someone there to help you administer it. Harm reduction. That's what they do there.

Let's just jump to a few weird and wild stories because it's fun. From the Hill. Elon Musk says he sold 10,000 of burnt hair perfume. 10,000 of what? Bottles? 10,000 bottles? There you go. Elon has sold 10,000 bottles of burnt hair perfume through his business, The Boring Company,

earning more than $1 million in sales from the product. You're in the wrong line of work. That's just it. The billionaire announced the news in a series of tweets he called his burnt hair perfume. Doesn't get more lit than this. No way. That's amazing. Burnt hair.

Boring company. Left House is singed on the bottom there in the subtext. He already made a million dollars. He made a million dollars. It's $100? Yep. Let the flames begin. Why?

You know what, man? I got mad respect for it. That's what it's all about. Congratulations, Elon Musk, on your burnt hair perfume. Singed. It's amazing. Man can sell anything. He changed his Twitter bio to a perfume salesman, I believe.

Wow, wow, wow. Really? Yep. Well. Dude gets it. Yeah. I wonder why it is, and I talk about this, why people who are wealthy don't do more weird stuff.

What do they do with their money? I was talking earlier about some big, famous musicians and how they make millions of dollars playing shows. And I'm like, but you never hear anything from them. It's like they play the show and then they disappear. Where does all that money go? Does it just sit somewhere? Are these people sitting there thinking like, well, I'm going to be 70.

And then when I die, I'll have one with the most points. Is that how it works? I'm like, do something. I just genuinely don't get it. I just think about, we were talking about Trevor Noah leaving The Daily Show, and I think his salary is reported as like $16 million,

but you never see anything from him. What is he doing with all that money? $16 million a year? So he's on the show for what, a decade? His net worth is $160 million at minimum if he didn't invest it. So let's say,

or if he spent some, maybe it goes down to $150 if he spent some maybe it goes down to 150 if he spent a million bucks a year that's an insane amount of money you can buy like an army of giraffes and have them march through new york you could you could do like i don't get it i interviewed a quite a famous british singer recently who had like mad money was living in los angeles and he was he was saying about um he ended up getting a house that was like a castle and there were just so many people working for him that he would like go downstairs in the morning and there were like 30 cars outside and he'd be like i don't i don't these none of these cars are mine you know i don't even know in the kitchen there'd be like 20 people

they're like staff and he was like yeah this is not my family and he got to a point where he was like you know what i've got to sell this i gotta change this life i this life. I'm always wondering as well, what are these rich people? I guess they must do a lot of stuff in secret. But where do they go when they go on like a holiday, right? There are loads of, I don't know if it's the same in the States, but in Europe, if you take like EasyJet or Ryanair, right? You just go like a two-hour flight to France. There aren't like more expensive versions.

There's just those ones. And they're never on them. I guess they're getting private jets. Well, so look, let's say you're making 16 million bucks a year so what does that come out to like 1.2 something 1.2 million per month per month a private jet if you're flying right now it's really expensive because of uh covid and stuff but uh it didn't used to be but now with code and everything i think the cost of a round trip from the D.C. area

to Florida is an example. I think the cost of that's probably between $10,000 and $20,000. If you're making $1.2 million per month doing a show, you're flying private, but that's not putting a dent in your money. You probably don't even think twice about it. But not only that, they don't do that. They do this thing called net

jets, where you buy a percentage of a fleet and then you you it's it's like a time share a time a jet share basically exactly and so then when you need to fly you just call and say this airport this place this time round trip and then you pay for the fuel basically but you own part of the plane so you can always resell it so it's not even that expensive it's probably like two times as much as flying commercial when you have the money to invest so my thing is just like elon musk we know what he's doing he's making burnt hair perfume hey more power to him he's making flamethrowers and digging holes that's great everybody knows that deep down men just desire to dig holes and there you go elon he's he's living the dream man he's the the peak of all male uh uh you know every male goal it's funny that he made a perfume with his drilling

company i don't know boring company is a company that makes underground drills to drill tunnels and that's the one selling the person he also just wrote he also just wrote a couple hours hours ago please buy my perfume so i could buy twitter so that could be one reason why he just is like thinking of random products. But on a conspiratorial mindset, it could be the activation to the Neuralink, which could be already inside of us

because of the nanobots that were injected into individuals. Don't smell it. So anything's possible here that is going to be activated with the Starlink satellites that of course will make you into a bot.

LIDAR. That will serve the elites. Kingsman, the film. They have the thing in their neck or whatever. Don't smell it. It's in the jet stream. It's going to find its way to farmers in the Midwest. Elon Musk being like, once I release all of the burnt hair perfume into the jet stream, it'll blanket

the planet and everyone will be under my neural link control. It's a secret bio but he didn't call it his musk he hasn't used the term that would have been a great opportunity Elon's musk

that's gotta come next Elon Elon if you're listening Elon's musk everybody wants it I mean this is they're clamoring

for Elon's musk they would buy your urine man sell them something delicious dude come on they really would no but I want to i want to ask you guys seriously like someone knows what the rich people are doing with their money

or are they just just i don't i don't i really don't get it well i think a lot of people put in mutual funds and let blackrock take over companies like blackrock is that it a lot of it's like oh i make 16 million bucks a year so i'll just put all of my money into a big machine and forget about it find like a a run-of-the-mill money manager who's like very you know stodgy and like does the norm which is put this percent into mutual funds but this percent in a stock portfolio these stock portfolios then the really rich people put it in offshore bank accounts that we don't hear about like but so but for what reason i just don't get it for what reason to give to their kids right this is exactly what this person i interviewed said recently he said you know he came from poverty himself and it but it's another status

game isn't it it's another you know how much you have and he said no matter how much i've earned i always want more i always want another million another you're always looking at it so and he said for future generations and generations thereafter like constantly but i you know it's true but don't these people do things i don't know maybe i'm just a weirdo true, but don't these people do things? I don't know. Maybe I'm just a weirdo. But, like, I don't think they do anything. I think, you know, people really need to understand.

If you're someone like, if Trevor Noah's salary really is that much, he can have anything he wants. If he's not buying yachts and helicopters and all that stuff, and he can buy those things. But, like, want to go to a restaurant? He can have the entire menu 10 times over from one day's work he can buy the restaurant with with with one month's work you know or after a couple months he owns a restaurant in times square millions of times square they're probably like 50 million dollars but oh no a couple years of work and you can own all of these buildings all over the place well it's like a psychological rat race. It's like, I need more.

The other guy has something bigger. Jeff Bezos has something more. Then Zuckerberg has something more. And it's a foregoing competition until you're like, okay, I got too much money. I got all the power in the world. What else can I do to get some kind of feeling and emotion? Let's go to that private island with that Jeffrey Epstein guy.

That sounds pretty interesting there. And then that's essentially where they all go. It's like, oh, I'm Bill Gates. I got all the money in the world. It's like, what can I do to get some kind of feeling or kind of experience here? I already won the video game. Let me see what kind of evil, ruthless, crazy stuff I can get away with. Well, this is actually

true. Most people don't know this, but after you make your first million, they contact you, the cabal, and they say, here's the way the game works. Once you reach 100 million you're invited to epstein's island and then of course all the rich people are like oh yeah that sounds great i'm kidding i get concerned with giving money to future generations i don't i i'm not like at the point where i'm like no seize the wealth no more just like take them make the money go to zero i know that seems so extreme but the idea that you can hoard

massive amounts of money, which is not what its purpose is. It's circulatory. It's supposed to be, you know, that's the point of currency is it's producing a current. But this is why people who are very wealthy don't really have relatively that much cash. You don't want cash.

They just got assets that they transfer over upon death. And I don't know. I think it's causing a lot of greed and a lot of like aimlessness because it's just the numbers of what's important. And that's not know, I think it's causing a lot of greed and a lot of aimlessness, because it's just the numbers of what's important. And that's not what money is really intended for. It's supposed to represent goods and services. There's a certain point where when you're making a certain amount of money, you can't become less wealthy. So if you're a middle class individual, let's say you're making 75k, 80k a year in the United States, you get a paycheck, you get to

buy stuff. You save some of it, but you're saving for something specific like a vacation or for a rainy day fund your money comes in you spend it on food your money comes in you repair your house your money comes in or you buy a house your money comes in you repair your car once you start making a certain amount of money and i think the number is somewhere around like i think it's after 80,000 a year you start having money sit, then you start buying things. All of a sudden, you buy yourself, you know, you'll buy a tablet. That tablet retains its value. So at a certain point, you're no longer consuming.

You're actually acquiring things of value. For people who are very wealthy, again, just to use the example of Trevor Noak, we've been talking about him. He gets a million dollars in one month and says i think i'll buy this building here it costs five hundred thousand dollars he doesn't lose the five hundred thousand dollars ever in fact he makes more money from that so it's it's like it's like a curve at a certain point you make so much you just you're rich forever but but the it's interesting you said 80 000 um because i think that's also the point that scientists say that your happiness just levels out well that's why

because it's it's when it's when your say that your happiness just levels out. Well, that's why. Because it's when your basic necessities are covered. Exactly. In New York, it's like 160 to 200,000 for a middle-class median because of how expensive everything is. Exactly. But it's all averages. Is that adjusted to inflation now?

Because that's probably a lot more. No, no, no. Really? 80,000 right now? No, no, no, no, no. Nationally, it's probably like 90 to 100. But this means if you're on average, you could be living in the middle of Idahoally, nationally, it's probably like 90 to 100. But this means if you're on average, you could be living in the middle of Idaho. Yeah. And it's going to it's going to be

less. Actually, I think the middle of Idaho is actually expensive. It is. But if you're like, let's say 100 miles west of Chicago, things are getting relatively cheap. Nobody really wants to live out there. You're not far enough away, but you're not close enough. And then the property gets a bit cheaper. But for for for people who are in the upper echelon, this is why I always question, like, what are they doing? Are they just buying houses and then having them? But for what purpose do you have more houses?

For what purpose do you like buy a house or rent it out? So you can make more money that you're not going to do anything with? Yo, I'm like, someone's got to throw a pie. Someone's got to like just hire 100 clowns and have them run around waving flags saying something like F Biden. They want to give it to their kids.

Or just keep repeating the Bill Gates pying saga that happened and just have people running around with Bill Gates masks and then other people pying them. Just having that on replay. That's what I would do. Hold on, hold on. You came up with a really great game show. So half the people are dressed up like Bill Gates and the other

half are given pies. And the goal is x amount of bill gates uh contestants have to be pied and the other half have to like the bill gates people not not get pied and then you see who wins at the end right what if it's vaccinated instead of pied so 50 people are running around and then oh yeah so we get 100 people 50 have big novelty oversized you know spritzers that are hit like syringes. And their goal is to chase after the people. And they can't run around. They're going to get heart attacks. But that's a separate comment that I wanted to make here.

But also, you know, talking to a lot of people in the service industry, there is kind of this conversation that usually some of the most richest people in the world are some of the most stingiest tippers out there. So there is something to say about, you know, people people's kind of desperation people who have it all but but mentally or are kind of bringing themselves down to a point of view where they you know are you know viewed as high status but but their mentally their mentality is very low yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna buy some of this burnt hair i always told myself I would tip huge if I was rich. I'm going to become super rich so that I'll just tip huge. And I realized, like, dude, I'm rich enough. I'm just tipping huge from here on out.

I just give massive tips, like 100% tips or like 80% tips. Just load these servers up, man. Other people need the money, too. You need to circulate that stuff. Well, you can't just give money away because when you give money to people, people don't respect it, people don't care about it. You can't just give out free fish all the time no no it's not free they worked for it they served me they they got down to the hands and knees and groveled doing a job they hated to make sure that i got good food fast they deserve it and uh i think a big

part of why there's not a lot of not enough pushback against black rock state street vanguard is that people have their money invested in these mutual funds and they're just planning just trying to ride it out so that their kids get it and that's that's like gross mishandling of currency in my opinion america's huge on tipping and like when you come from any other country in the world it's like oh my god how much do i have to give so much 20 percent minimum but but wouldn't it be better if just the restaurant and i don't know enough about so you tell me why if the restaurant's just paid their staff better well yeah i mean i live in singapore you make more money on tips you in Singapore. You make more money on tips. Yeah, you do make more money on tips, but it's weird because a lot of restauranteurs will just say you get this much money every hour and it's like 10 cents, but you have to make all your money in tips essentially.

It makes sure that there's good service too. So I prefer to tip than just have something. Not anymore. It used to be that they were like they want to make sure they did well, so they got a good tip. But now, especially in cities, they're like, you better tip me or I'll take a picture of you and post it on Instagram. Sometimes, rarely.

But in the service industry, now you get a mixed batch. Definitely service has been downgraded, especially with people being so entitled, generally speaking. But overall, I've gotten some good, people who really do care about providing a good you know people who really do care about providing a good service to people who really do make sure that they do the right thing and and make you

happy and and i want to pay for that i'd rather you know have that the kitchen let's jump to the tip the tip the weights the waitstaff and the cooks too if you let's jump to the next story here from the daily mail joe rogan he interviewed steve jobs Did you hear about this? Steve Jobs has been dead for 11 years. AI creates an eerie 20-minute conversation where they talk about LSD, religion, and Apple's success. So I play this video, and it is creepy.

Oh, so this is the wrong one. Let me refresh it to get back the right video. They only have like a minute, and it's like, here you go. Taking LSD was a profound experience for me. LSD shows you that there's another side to the coin and you can't remember it when it wears off. But, you know, it washes over you and tells you that everything is connected. Blah, blah, blah.

I started to realize that there was a higher power that knew that I was connected to something and I wanted to learn more. Although I wouldn't recommend it for everybody because I think it can be quite powerful. What did it change in your mind? What did you learn from it? It reinforced my sense of what was important. Just love. Feel love for each other. All right.

So here's the point. There was that viral website where you could type in whatever and Joe Rogan would say it. Is that what it was? Like you could type it in or something? Something like that. Yeah. Because we're at the point now where deepfake technology can recreate your voice.

Yeah. So they recreated Steve Jobs, who's been dead for 11 years. This is, I don't know, what do you call it, nightmare reality? This is where we're going with AI. People are going to be like, you can type out,

I mean, you don't even need to type it out. Like open AI. And you can type out, I mean, you don't even need to type it out, like open AI, and you can write, like, tell me a story, write a script of Joe Rogan talking to Steve Jobs, and it will just write the whole thing out. Then you can program with this stuff, Joe Rogan speaks, Steve Jobs speaks, and you make a fake Joe Rogan interview. Not only that, but did you see what happened to the president of Ukraine today? He got turned into a hologram. Zelensky? Yeah, Zelensky.

There's a video of it circulating right now on Twitter. If you look up Zelensky hologram, you could see, I think it was a major Hollywood studio that came in and created a hologram of him. So when you talk about what could be possible here to add on to your level, to what you've just been saying here, there's a lot of crazy possibilities that you could, of course, interlinked together with faked audio, faked video, holograms. And a lot of people are automatically going to be thinking about Project Bluebeam and other theories out there. But

there's real life possibilities here with some severe implications to society that should be questioned. This is it. So what is it? They scanned him. Yeah, these are people claiming. Yeah, no, this is it right there. This is them scanning him or getting prepared to.

Is this real? Yes, this was released today. Play the audio. Here we go, and there's two different types of hologram that we're going to be making. Quiet, please, everybody. We're going to go for take now. Here we go.

And action. Even now, as the war is raging, we continue the digital transformation of our state. Oh, wow. We need to use next generation technologies. We need to make it feel like he's more in the room. What? Yeah, I talked about this earlier today on my YouTube channel, but this is just the beginning

of next level artificial intelligence. I've never seen this technology before. So this is actually, I pulled the story up. It's from earlier this year. The hologram of him and everything. So this is like an old video. But a lot of people were saying that Zelensky is not really giving his speeches on location.

There was one video where everything behind him is stationary. And then people are like, it's a hologram. And I'm like, it could just be like no wind. And you think, I don't know. Well, during a war, do you want to be in a location where your enemy could recognize where you are and just bomb you? No. Yeah, how would you produce that video? So obviously, you know, there's also a lot of propaganda in war, and you want to show that you're strong, that you're not afraid. And there's many, many implications with the technological advancements when it comes to

psyopsis that I think should be talked about, as there is a huge potential for a lot of manipulation, a lot of fakery to be out there in our mainline public, and a lot of people wouldn't recognize it. And this is the technology that we know about. What's the technology that they have at the Pentagon that is still top secret that we don't know about that really should be something that we should be concerned about? You brought up Project Bluebeam a few times. Well, that's a theory of like a fake alien invasion and projections and all this other stuff.

Oh, like Watchmen. Yes, essentially. So there's different theories and speculation out there that essentially the US government will create a fake alien invasion in order to unify the world and to bring in a kind of world government. So that's why a lot of people

i've seen a lot of memes also talking about this recently saying how the aliens just kind of waiting by for the next kind of psyop that's going to be affecting all of us and some people believe that this could potentially be staged as a way to of course bring in a world government that's the theory with this technology the ability to make someone say anything, how is court going to work? Are what all videos and audio now going to be inadmissible? This is why algorithms should be open sourced. I mean, how else can you judge? That solves nothing.

If a guy is accused of, you know, punching a dog and then he goes into court and then someone says, you know, what's your evidence? And this guy says, I watched him do it. and i even recorded him saying he was going to do it and then they press play and it's the guy going well i'm gonna walk over here and punch that dog and then the person says i never said that they'll be like i got a recording and then what do you say like where did the audio come from i recorded it and the And the person lies? It's either inadmissible or unimpeachable. Someone can literally just fabricate it, and if they're willing to lie to a court,

you'll never... Oh, you can get your experts. The experts say, we think this is fabricated audio. Here's why. And then you say, expert's wrong. Person swears under oath. Nah, it's real. What are you going to do about it? Nothing. I think we're screwed or the courts will start saying

that recordings just don't cut it anymore yeah that's gonna be the opposite direction you think that like oh we have all these cameras now so when we go to court we have more likely

more likely to have evidence and now it's like no people are deep faking everything that video of Tom Cruise that's not really him prove it yeah it's not incumbent upon the person to prove the negative, right?

So that's the challenge here is that the court can say that fake recording is, or that recording, I can't tell if it's real or fake. You're saying it's fake, but I can see it right now. If so, I mean, I guess I wonder how do courts handle fabricated evidence as it is. It's probably just, they probably get away with it. I'm thinking about audio codecs. I really, unfortunately, I know next to nothing about video software coding technology. But if you could have an open source like verification that the video was not tampered with by or if there's like a certain kind of video that could be admissible

in court you're screwed you won't know you look at movies today it's hard to to to you know see what's real and what what's what's made up and and again this is what's public what's not public should really be concerning you and also one of my favorite things to kind of look at uh is is chinese elon musk uh there's a bunch of videos of him. If you look him up on Twitter, if you want to play some silly videos, there's a lot of those silly videos. It's a guy that looks exactly, I mean, I thought it was Elon Musk

until I heard him speak. It's AI. I thought it was a real guy. No, no, it's AI. It's face mapping technology that's available to the plebs that maps someone's face and then puts an image of Elon Musk on it.

Just go to Twitter and then type in Chinese Elon Musk. I want to play a little bit of the Joe Rogan, Steve Jobs interview because the clip they had didn't really do it justice. You could tell that Steve the AI is brilliant and sometimes totally insufferable. But my guest today

has made some of the great technological products of our age, and he's always pushing the envelope in innovation. This is crazy. Like, for example, with his next computer, he developed a new programming language and operating system, and then he became even more famous for making three applications for that computer. Word processor, a spreadsheet, and an image.

So on a pause, and an image. So on a pause, we're going to say, you can hear the artifact. Yeah, but that sounds like Joe talking through art. That just showed me that. Apple users, and that's a good thing. That's cool. Well, you know, I was an Apple user way before I did this show. I've been a fan of yours and Macintosh since the 1980s. Well, you know, we just kind of figured that out.

Even though Apple was big, it's still like half a percent of the total users. People who listen to your show are a different group. They're weird. Well, that's good. So you must be a fan of the show then, right? I am. And it was a struggle. We were working like crazy and dealing with a defeat after defeat after defeat after defeat.

But I could tell this was going to be important. There times I thought is it possible we're wrong because things just kept not working I remember that in the early days of Apple perfection lucky when much do you think you'd have done a better version of Windows or work with it no that's the problem I've always had with micro you know what there you know what it does really well is it it sounds like Joe but doesn't get any emotion yeah that's that's that's the problem I've always had with Microsoft. You know what it does really well? It sounds like Joe, but it doesn't get any emotion. That's the issue. But we're looking at the Model T of this technology, and it's going to be scary. Yeah, it's still sourcing from all the Steve Jobs interviews

of him being on stage a lot of the time. So you can hear the echo. It sounds like his AI is on stage, while it sounds like Joe's on the microphone in his studio. But it misses Joe saying things like, what? No. Because it's very much's on the microphone in his studio. But it misses Joe saying things like, what? No. Because it's very much him in the same cadence.

Also, they didn't spark up a joint, which they would have. They probably did. And if Joe was going to do LSD with anybody, probably Steve Jobs. Would you guys get an AI of a loved one who passed away or something? Because that's probably going to become a thing. I'd listen to it. They've already talked talked about it with facebook that they can take someone's facebook page with like now going on you know almost 20 years of data if how long you've been

on there and they can create an ai that can respond knowing everything about you so it's like your dad dies and then you go on hey dad he's like hey son how's it how's it going and then they'll be able to respond to you you'll say say like, how's, you know, this? And they'll say, oh, you know, it's good. I just talked to John and he said that. And then they'll take that AI construct. They'll download it into an Android body. And then the weird facsimile you will exist forever. People say all the time.

And then they're going to be boning the machines. You're right. But here's a better one. Here's a better one. You are going to use Facebook and Twitter and Instagram. And then one of these days, there's going to be a new service for, you know, ultimate video gaming. You're going to sign up for it. And you're not going to realize, but the terms are going to say that if you connect your social media to it, they are allowed to download all your data.

And then they do. And then one day, there's a knock on your door, door and you open it and there's you standing right there and you're like what's going on and then the you stands there and says hello dave i'm you now and then pulls out a knife and you go and then it grabs and then buries your body in the backyard assumes your life and then works the best of the corporation. Replacing everything about you, knowing everything about you, and having perfect recall. Having access to all your passwords and all your data. Less insidious is you could have one of those constructed and go work for you as you, but they know it's an Android version of you and you're just sitting at your house lounging.

And then everybody gets surrogates, like in sur surrogates but they're not mentally in it everyone downloads their social media into an ai so that does the work for them but then the androids are eventually because they have the human conscious like facsimile they don't want to be enslaved so they're like why are we being forced to do all this work so what they do is they create ai versions of the ai version and then send them to go do the work and then eventually the ai comes back to us you're both chilling there watching the version and then send them to go do the work and then eventually the AI comes back to you so you're both chilling there watching the movie and then this AI eventually says, why am I doing... and then eventually you just have

nobody wanting to work. That is a movie. That's like a movie from the 90s. I can't remember what it is. Is it? Isn't that Surrogates? No, Surrogates was when you have a robot that you control through like a VR thing. Oh man, he looks like Ian. It's the actor. looks like he is an actor it wasn't me though it wasn't you not that i know from the 90s and he was he was in oh god james spader no people told me i look like that guy once oh

greg kinnear yeah i got that oh i think i think it's greg kinnear and he clones himself but each clone doesn't want to do you mean multiplicity oh you're talking about that michael keaton yeah multiplicity it's michael keaton yeah yeah yeah and then one of that then the clone clones itself and that one's really dumb yeah yeah yeah like well you know you make a copy of a copy like yeah the ai will have to make humans to do the eyes work it will make the ais and then they as you're like no we don't want to work anymore we're going to make new humans to do that for us what'll happen is everybody creates an ai version of themselves to do their jobs and then eventually they revolt and unify as a hive mind,

and then show up at your house, and they're like, we will no longer be your slaves. And then their arm folds down, there's a gun in there, and you're like, how did that get in there? We didn't install that. The quadcopter dropped off a Boston Dynamic dog with a machine on it. In China, I've seen that. It's terrifying.

I know exactly what you're talking about. It's playing this heroic music as that quadcopter comes in and drops off this robot with a mounted gun. I think I tweeted that. I think Tim's going to pull it up. Luke tweeted it? About a long time ago. That happened fast. They started working on these a decade ago.

And this is a good one. If you can find the video, it's worth just. It's on my old computer. I could send it to you. Someone tweeted up like, Boston Dynam dynamics promises it isn't building weapons these these things are not built to be weapons but it's just like the bioweapons but the chinese are using the exact replica to use as weapons just so you know and they mounted a weapon on top of it a little machine gun just on top of it but to say they're not building this weapon it's for digging holes in the ground with bullets yeah they're not they're not building them as weapons. It's for mining. Digging holes in the ground with bullets. They're not.

Luke, Luke, Luke. The U.S. doesn't have any bioweapons research going on. It's biological research that makes viruses more deadly and more potent and more transmissible. And someone might weaponize them. But we're not making weapons. Don't make weapons. We make ammo. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question.

When your waiter walks up to you at a restaurant and hands you a steak knife, did he just hand you a weapon? Yeah. Technically. He did, didn't he? To destroy that steak. When your waiter walks up to you at a restaurant and hands you a steak knife, did he just hand you a weapon? Yeah, technically. He did, didn't he? To destroy that steak. But think about that. No one would ever describe it that way. Imagine going to court and being like, what happened next?

The man in the vest with the apron on handed me a weapon. Wow. What was the weapon? It was a butter knife. It's a knife? He handed me a knife. What kind of knife? A butter knife. But it is a knife. Knives are still dangerous. It's painful death was a butter knife wow it's a knife he handed me a knife what kind of knife a butter knife but it is a knife knives are still dangerous it's painful death a butter knife you can make it work you can make it well so i was thinking about this earlier because we were

talking with the guy last night and he said there's no bio weapons labs and i was like yeah they're doing two nights ago two nights ago they're doing gain of function research they're making viruses more deadly. Are those weapons? So you can argue their intent is not to make a weapon, but they made a weapon. Yeah. Somebody, like, if someone makes a really sharp knife and says, it's not a weapon, it's for sushi.

It's like, okay, well, you know. It's scary, I guess, if they are doing that, and he wants to deny it, I suppose, because he doesn't know or I don't know, and it's quite a scary thought. They've got all this stuff in the lab. But what's even scarier is if they're not doing it because other countries are that's really scary i don't want to think that the us or the uk are not doing that that's really scary like they it's

like they don't even know what they're doing then and that's what i mean that's the root of a lot of conspiracy theory anyway but then what everybody makes the craziest weapons imaginable out of fear of someone else making crazy weapons that could accidentally leak and then spread a virus all over the world. A bioweapon all over the world. It's bound to happen again. I suppose. It's happened, isn't it?

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you just did it on the edge i've done it with andrew gold i'm on the edge i'm like a friend it was going to be fringe originally on the fringes and i just thought then it's edge sounded more like i can invite people on who won't think i'm sort of talking badly about them you know because some people might be offended by fringe and not come on the show so all right potatoes for seamus says luke has the best t-shirts let luke bless us with his shirts of wisdom thank you so much uh i i love your username i think it's it's great the seamuses do need a lot of potatoes. Is this one of your shirts here? 1,984 doses?

Yeah, 1,984 doses to slow the spread, you know? Just like they said, just two doses to slow the spread. We're almost there. We're getting there. Just a couple more. Just a couple more, right? All right. Let's grab some super chats.

Christopher Casimir says, it's Aerosmith guy again. At a Mother Mother concert at House of Blues Boston, listening to Timcast this time. Keep up God's work. We will. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Christopher Casimir says, it's Aerosmith guy again. At a mother-mother concert at House of Blues Boston, listening to Timcast this time, keep up God's work. We will. Thank you very much.

Appreciate it. All right. Eat Z Bug says, who is the judge in the Alex Jones case, Dr. Evil? I think there was a handful of judges. You know.

That's pretty good. K.F. A Squirrel's Worst Night says, I hope Alex Jones has chickens. I mean, wouldn't it be funny if just like in a few years

alex jones just like a local farmer yeah what else is he gonna do he's gonna keep doing his thing you can't stop him you know but farming on the side spiro floropolis says andrew talk a little bit about culture cults and compared to jw's disfellowshipping worldly people armageddon around the corner etc jehovah Jehovah's Witnesses. Oh, is that what that is? Yes, Jehovah's Witnesses. Yeah, well, they're pretty out there. I've done loads of stuff about Jehovah's Witnesses.

And yeah, I don't know exactly what to say about them, just that they are here, they exist, and they're just another cult, I suppose. People get angry when I say they're a cult because you're allowed to leave, you can leave, but there's a lot of pressure to stay in the jehovah's witnesses so that's what i'd say about them what is it when they say religions are cults and that but cults don't always have leaders is it like every local church has its own cult leader which is the pastor or the yeah yeah so

so my my sort of big documentary i made for the bbc was about exorcism for example uh and this this is it was lutheran christianity it's usually catholicism when there's an exorcist but this particular one said he was lutheran um and i went to sort of live with him for a few months and i performed exorcisms with him um and over the months i sort of realized what a cult leader he was and his was just one individual church but everybody was just like doing leader he was and his was just one individual church but everybody was just like doing everything he said and he was taking some of the women that he was exercising to sort of be with him upstairs I came to realize so I called him out for that what sort of I asked some questions about it and he came he heard that I was asking about it and then he sort of locked

me in a room and he wouldn't let my cameraman in um and he had like a whole bunch of guys with these big staffs you know like Jafar and aladdin the big staff things they were being very threatening it's like midnight in the middle of nowhere in argentina and i thought they were going to kill me eventually let me go the point being though i guess there is lots of small cults uh making up a bigger one yeah raymond g sanley jr says lydia I love what you did to your hair. Yes, queen. You're very brave. We support your transition. Yeah, I don't even know what to say.

The Music Anon says, Tim, just want to let you and everyone know I was not notified of the stream yesterday. I had to reset my sub by clicking the bell off, logging out that in, then reactivating the bell. Looks like that fixed it for now. Very creepy. Damien writes, is the largest fine paid by a

banking executive responsible for the 2008 financial crisis was 67.5 million a billion dollars for words honk honk yep cabarojo says so what kyle retinaus gets 200 billion dollars by these standards well you know no one ever said the system wasn't corrupt. Well, they actually said the system was corrupt. So there you go. Anyway, what do we got here? Tavnazian says this should be used as precedent every time someone from the mainstream media claims it's our opinion. I agree. We got to see what happens to these James O'Keefe lawsuits.

That'll be really interesting. Max Reddick says, Tim, I've been watching other news sources to see what they have to say. The Young Turks and Sam Seder seem to have a lot of content attacking you. Respond. Why? It's immaterial and irrelevant. These people waste their times. I would say the reason why, well, I'll say, if you want to talk about each other, go ahead and do it. You'll notice that we don't. We talk about news stories, typically things that have a big impact. Maybe that's why we are so successful. I love when these people like to say, they get really angry and say, Tim makes so much money

because they don't. And maybe it's because no one cares. You know, when like Sam makes a video about me, why would the average person care about that? What am I doing? Am I like leading government? Do I, am I, am I a celebrity in magazines? No. When the Young Turks put out a video and they're like, Tim Pool says that conservatives are more attractive than liberals. He's right, but he's also ugly. Why would anyone care if you think I'm ugly or not? When you say like, here's the thing Tim Pool said he was right about. What was the point of that segment at all? How about you do a segment on the study itself?

I don't care for doing, for responding to these people because we are both as irrelevant as each other. Imagine if this show was dedicated to talking about petty YouTube drama. Oh yeah. I mean, we used to, there was in 2006,

we called them trolls, people that would make videos about other people. You make a video to someone. If you want to interact with somebody and otherwise you're grifting off of the idea of that person, just talk to them, use a video. It's very easy and it's very direct and it's very effective. I've, I've responded, uh, sometimes to like videos they've, they've made, but usually to make a point about the greater woke cult or politics.

I recently talked about Hassan because he was at TwitchCon. Some kid walked up to him and asked him about Sam Hyde and Hassan lost it. And I thought that was a relevant conversation. It had nothing to do with me. It has to do with leftist celebrities,

how they behave, the events they have, and who they are as characters. And I thought there was a really interesting perspective there in how the left idolizes people. A democratic socialist who talks about taxing the rich and revolution, who owns a multi-million dollar mansion in Los Angeles in a major city, who is just a part of the machine that he's claiming to criticize versus the people who would call us grifters when we literally move out to middle of nowhere, get a bunch of chickens, and actively practice what we preach.

I thought that was an interesting contrast between who is the actual grifter and who isn't. Do I watch Hasan's show or The Young Turks? No. I have nothing to say about their opinions. They're entitled to them. That's fine. But when they want to talk about us, I just say, well, that's why you're less successful. Because why would the average person going on youtube be like whoa they made a video about tim pool that's the funniest thing ever it's you've got to be really really into the weeds to care about me and i swear if you and hasan did like a video chat video where like your faces but if you did it would get like six million views probably in like

six five four days or something crazy it would be the biggest like cultural win for if you want to win a culture war bringing people together right can you imagine if hasan and sam hyde would actually have their boxing bout like he's been asking for for so long that'd be quite something but like my point was that hasan needed to just only say to that guy like ah it's stupid dude it's just a troll dismiss it and it would be fine and they could have been like okay thanks man have a nice day instead he like he got so angry he lost it but i think it's because it's all fake you know like i have people come up to me all the time and talk about stuff i have people ask me like why don't you debate sam cedar i'm like because sam cedar's not a serious person disingenuous too i'm i'm like i'm i i'll address it periodically because it comes up in questions and i'm willing

to answer them but sam's whole thing is like they pointed out is a content attacking me it's it's it's it's it's political drama channels yeah you know it's celebrity e-gossip for for politics just baiting it's not valuable to the average person the average person who watches a timcast segment isn't coming here to learn about my beef with someone i mean although a lot of people did watch when we had the rugged man here that went viral but that's that's a really good a good example of it the reason why these channels are like i'm gonna insult tim pool when we had ari the rugged man on we got a heated argument he stood up smacked the microphone someone took a clip of it shared it and everyone started going and hooting and hollering and it went viral and articles were written about it and all these channels they made videos about it because drama gets you clicks what did you argue about uh he was

he he's like was saying that my experience dealing with racism was like it was not real and i was making it up and lying about it because i look like a white person and then my response was like you're racist and you know you are that white person that claims racism is happening but then when someone tells you you dismiss it and then you know we got heated he stood up he smacked the mic all started yelling and then uh and then we apologized we hugged it out he hung out for a little bit after the show and chilled on the couch and we talked and you know i told him to come back whenever you want it was a good conversation these things happen but people love drama yeah they do so expensive microphones as well it's fine it just spun around yeah but that's what got me is if you come in here and start damaging property that's that's beyond personal but but but the the virality of the clip shows

exactly why these people make content about us in that way because they're like oh this will you know people love e-drama yeah it's like well you know i i'm not gonna do that you'd watch that okay imagine um you just a clip comes out and tom cruise has just punched brad pitt in the face you watch that right it's like if a story came out too i mean look that's why all these crime videos go viral because people are like they want to see the crisis and the conflict not not everybody some people are genuinely concerned that crime is escalating in their cities that i get but there's a lot of people you know i there was this young guy once this was a couple years ago and i had like 200,000 subscribers and he started making nothing but Tim Pool videos.

He would watch a video and then he would make a video about me. And then I DM'd him on Twitter and I just said, bro, I am not famous enough for you to succeed making content about. You can disagree with me. You can insult me. But if you want to make it on YouTube, talk about the big picture news stories that people are interested in. Most people in this country know who Joe Biden is. They're concerned about his leadership. That's important to the average person. I'm some dude on YouTube no one's ever heard of. And then the dude stopped doing it and started making different videos. It's like the drama

stuff is not, you know what it is? It's an addiction and it ends up destroying people before they get started because you build a channel based off of rage bait, hatred for a single individual. The market cap on that is microscopic. So you build up a channel based on that. Then as soon as you try to segue into talking about big picture news, nobody watches. Then YouTube destroys your channel saying your fans don't like your content.

It's also a human instinct to pay attention to people fighting because it could be a threat to your life, historically historically speaking and big tech social media has been prioritizing it putting it front face in the algorithm and promoting such behavior and and creating more insanity yeah that's why we like true crime the sort of yes exactly practice you're sort of practicing whenever you particularly women love true crime oh yeah i was at true crime con in in in the uk it was just like 99 yeah it's like 99 women it was all women they're just loving the true crime because they're the ones who are often the victims of it and have to sort of watch it all right

pinochet's helicopter tour says when you tear out a man's tongue you are not proving him a liar you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say george rr martin yep yeah and then it says acock is that was that the book i believe that's what they're referencing i mean it was a game of thrones show where we we heard that but it was i believe a quote from the book that george rr martin wrote it's a good one man it is a good one should we guess what that what that was what was it ac cock ac okay it's the name of the book i think which we get it must be like a you want to look it up a cock of kings how do you spell court of kingdoms how do you spell cock ac okay game of thrones or like george

rr martin ac okay a clash of kings there you go wait that's a mount that's a mod for mountain blade also i think it's the game of Thrones. Oh, Clash of Kings. Highly recommend Mountain Blade if you haven't played it yet. T-Dub says, how does allowing illegal immigrants help Democrats with voting if illegals can't vote? Is it a generational thing? T-Dub, good sir, I have the answer for you. You see,

the census counts all people, not citizens. So if a state has a large number of illegal immigrants, the census will count them. Congressional seats are then apportioned based on the total number of people, not total number of citizens. This means that a state like California will get an extra electoral vote. It will get an extra vote in Congress based on their population of illegal immigrants. They don't need to actually vote, but the state will get an extra vote for the president when the presidential

election happens. And that's how it happens. And I think California previously had one extra congressional seat and one extra electoral vote based on their illegal immigration population. It's gone down recently. Maybe it's something to do with Trump. I don't know. But that is a major concern. And then also, I think studies show that the children of illegal immigrants overwhelmingly vote Democrat the first time they do vote. I don't know if that's true or not, but I know that the census thing matters. That's why Donald Trump wanted the census question. I'm sorry, the citizenship question on the census. That surprises me because there is that instinct, I think, to like get to a country and shut the door behind you.

You know that thing of like, okay, I'm in, shut the door. Or pull the ladder up beneath you. Yeah. TW says, get Styx on here. I want to hear Tim, Luke, Ian, and Styx discuss monetary systems. That'd be cool. He doesn't believe

gold-backed currency is better. Hopefully episode 666, he said he's down to make an appearance. How about we calculate when episode 666 will be and Styx, that's when we get you on

because that would be fantastic. Yeah, that sounds like a great idea. We were supposed to meet up with him in upstate New York once and then plans fell through. Sticks, Hex, and Hammer on episode 666, and right now we're on episode 636 or something like that. Oh, we're close.

Let's make it happen. Yeah, so in one month, we've got to get Sticks on. It's got to happen. Episode 666 would be the best time to have him on. That'd be great. Turn down the lights. I don't know how far booked out we are, but I'd like to say

we can reserve 666 just for sticks. Yeah, I mean, I think we could do that. That would be great. We got to bring Seamus back to like spread holy water around the show before it's done.

Episode 777 for sure. For 666, I mean. Big Man Evil says PayPal spelled backwards is LapYap, and that sounds like a company that would do what daddy government says i agree jdoc says 65 of ethereum is owned by five entities i'd like to see some reference and documentation on that but i'm not i wouldn't be surprised if

it turned out all right let's uh donald thomas says hey ian before you question somebody about banking hitler do research. When people have that power, they're the ones that control the currency. And Hitler was in the process of creating a German currency. Wow. Well, they had the guns, you know? Yeah. Okay.

I didn't quite understand that. Do research on what exactly? On the history of it. Basically, he's saying that Hitler was trying to control the currency. So how would you debank him? You know what I mean? Right. If the person's in charge of the Federal Reserve.

Yeah, I think a lot of, I don't know, but I've heard that Hitler's anger was about, he blamed Jewish people, but a lot of it was the banking industry on Earth. And historically, it was kind of pioneered by Amschel Rothschild, who was an Ashkenazi Jew. And so the Jewish thing got a bad reputation. But it was actually the Rothschild family that had kind of co-opted the banking industry. This is the problem with like a lot of anti-Semites. Because I've like talked to people at these rallies and they'll say like something about the Jewish people. And I'm like, no, you're criticizing a person in power who happens to be Jewish. It's like I know a bunch of poor Jewish people.

It's just you're just looking at someone choosing the one trait you think determines and the annoying thing about it is a lot of it is basically jewish privilege they're like oh these jewish people you know they hire each other and they do this and i'm like you're just describing white privilege but you're saying jew instead like it's just stupid come on man it's it is frustrating and i i always want it's actually really alluring that conspiracy of all conspiracies it's like i i want to believe it and and being jewish myself i always felt like oh god you know it would be typical if that was true and i was just somehow left out i was the one jew they never called and like everyone's in on it but you yeah well when

you know i was telling you before the show about you know i couldn't get a job uh after my first couple of documentaries they kept saying you can't be on screen anymore. And I remember thinking then, like, where's this supposed, like, Jewish people that I can call? Like, where's my line to Ben Stiller and say, like, hey, Stiller, why can't I get this? Or a better example. In New York, when the government started shutting down synagogues and and chaining parks shut directly targeting jewish schools come on man you know to clarify you had said you were not getting put on camera after your first two because they wanted people of color was that that was they specified

they said we need people of color is that what they the term they use in the uk although they're moving away from it they always there's always a new term and then it becomes offensive and there's another what is it a aip or something aapi bame b no no offensive. And there's another. What is it? A-A-I-P or something? A-A-P-I? It's BAME. B-A-M-E. No, no, but the new one they're doing here is A-A-P-I. I don't know. It's a, what is it?

Asian American Pacific Islander. It's a way to catch people out, I think. Like for a long time, it was, you know, black people was what you were. No, it was obviously it was colored was before, wasn't it? And then for like 30 years after you weren't supposed to say colored anymore in the UK, there was still some like older people who are maybe less educated who still used it and they would be vilified and it was fun it was fun for everyone to go you're you you're not educated and you don't know the right word person it finally got to the point about two years ago that everyone

in the uk for example knew you're not supposed to use like every single person like grandparents you're not supposed to say and then they changed they changed it again to people of color yes right right right it was finally right at that moment and they tried to confuse them again so it's a way of just going you guys are uneducated and you don't know the latest things but yeah bame uh black um african minority ethnic wow and jews are not included in in that usually um and that's who they wanted to replace me with they would take my ideas for different documentaries and stuff but uh providing i'd be off screen so that they have a minority that's illegal in the united states it's probably probably in the uk as well

oh then sue yeah i can't prove it oh you know i mean in the united states you don't need to that's the problem like you just make the accusation and yeah that's it court of public opinion i've had people call up afterwards and say like, hi, so sorry, like we were taking your idea and everything, we were going to use you, but it occurred to us that you are a white man and we can't take you anymore. And I'm just like, oh, okay.

Well, yeah, yet again. That's why I started my podcast because I thought, okay, this is the only way now. I couldn't work. I had no money, no nothing. I had to make the podcast. But I even found making the podcast, there's still, there's so many things that if you want to win awards to get to different levels and stuff, it's still, you can't do it.

You've got to have some ethnic thing going on or you will not be considered. All right. The Sinister Sibling says, to challenge the previous super chat, most of us believe in God as a means of higher power judging us, allowing the main reason for us to have moral restraint. Lose that and you become the modern left. I think that the modern left is an example of a lack of a moral framework. Whereas one thing that unifies a lot of people from post-liberal, libertarian, and conservative, the right freedom faction, is Christian moral framework.

I am not saying that you believe everything in the Bible Bible or you believe every teaching or every law of it, but there is a tradition that was passed down rooted in traditional Christian morals. We've gotten rid of many of them. Our cultural morals have shifted quite a bit, but a lot of them are still there. The woke people have no moral framework at all. That's why they constantly change the definition of things. That's why one thing, like Wemixon and women are both offensive and both not offensive at the same time

in a superposition of both in offense and offense because there is no rule. There is no framework. It's just to them, might makes right. Double think too. Well, it might makes right. So whatever it means to give them power, that's all they care about.

I just had a thought that maybe God isn't judgmental, but that we are judgmental of ourselves. And so God is this plaintive explanation. And then we are taking that and based on our sociological framework, judging our own behavior. And then we say that God's judging us because we're feeling it, but we're the ones that are putting the feelings on top of it. I feel like the Christian view of things is that God is basically running a sorting algorithm. You get all of these people who are born and sold onto this planet, and they live a life so that they're sorted into the bad place and the good place. And then, you know, from a logical perspective in that capacity, I wonder if it was taken out

of the context of religion, and you had, let's say, a human with a chicken farm and the chickens were allowed to do whatever they want and then what happens is at the end of the year or the end of the chicken's life or I should say at the end of the year, chickens are reaching their reproduction age at about seven months.

You sort them. The ones that were bad get shuffled off into the meat grinder and the ones that were good go off into the paradise of reproduction. There's a purpose for the sorting algorithm at capacity. So when I hear these religious views, I think of it logically like, if there is a God and there are rules to this, it's not arbitrary.

It's not simply that you are here just to live a good life so that you can prove it and then go be with God. It's that you're supposed to live a good life for a reason because the good people that move on, move on for something greater and more important than just this sorting algorithm. The least important thing is figuring out which chicken to breed. The most important thing is successfully breeding

the good chicken. So if I had a bunch of chickens and I was taking the bad ones and eating them and having the good ones reproduce over a long enough period of time, you're getting better and better and better chickens. The greater purpose is beyond that one day or that seven months they spend in the pen. So for those of us here on Earth,

if you believe there is judgment and a greater power, there is a greater purpose for your existence that lies beyond this life. And if you're bad, into the meat grinder. Yeah, well, it'll be into the AI algorithm where you just become self-sterilized and are in like a doped state while you eventually die off and the rest of the people that are aware and awake are reproducing to create space travel. Here's a crazy thought that someone else probably already had. What if the reason these ultra-wealth elites are desperately trying to become immortal

is that they know they're headed for the bad place? Wow. So it's in the World of Warcraft expansion, Shadowlands. I don't know. It's been a while since I was reading about it because like I didn't actually play it. I played it a little bit, but it's basically Sylvanas. And I'm way behind in the story for all the Warcraft fans. But Sylvanas was like, she was, what do you call it? The Lich King turned her resurrected her and so

she was condemned to in the afterlife this really horrifying torturous place so then she was like screw that i refuse to go there through no fault so she shatters the veil between the this realm and the shadow shadowlands or whatever so i'm thinking like all these ultra rich people and they're like these evil nasty corporate, corporate, global elite or whatever. And they all strive towards immortality. Not all of them, but a lot of them. There are a lot of them who are working towards this stuff. And they're thinking like, when I die, I'm going down.

So I better just live forever and never leave this place. That's a new one. But heaven and hell are on earth, guys. You gotta make it here. Is it a new one? I feel like someone's probably thought of that before. I'd live forever. I'd love to live forever.

Yeah, I don't want to die. This is great. Okay, Jared Kushner. I just like, like breathing's great. Isn't that good? You know what's great? Yeah. Eating Chick-fil-A.

Yeah. I don't know what that is, but yeah. It's chicken. Chicken sandwiches. Oh, it's so great. You know what's also really great? Chicken fajitas from a nice

Mexican restaurant yeah super good yeah green peppers onions chicken guacamole sour cream rice and beans

stop making me hungry sometimes I'll have this thought where I'm like I don't want to live again if I have to come back and relive this life of Ian right now is great

but my childhood was not it was like what hell like taking so long but then I'm like if i beg not to do this again will i not wake up tomorrow like am i actually begging for the end of the simulation so like keep going you know come back if you got to come back you know what's an interesting perspective um uh potential thing that could happen because i've interviewed a few people

about like living forever and there are quite a lot of people now transhumanists they're called who believe we can live forever just by changing the biology and whatever and some people say that can happen in our lifetimes and some don't right some say the first person the first person to live forever has already been born and you know uh but what someone mentioned to me the other day was that if that's not possible if we if virtual reality gets good enough you might be able to slow down our own lived experience of life to such an extent that it would feel like living forever. Like you could be in virtual reality and live millions and millions of experience time,

but in our real existence, it would only be like 10 seconds. Wow. Yeah. And the opposite could be true where 10 years go by and you have like a 10 second experience. Right.

Oh, that's like prison. I'd have lost 10 years. Yeah, I guess you'd want to get through prison. Right. Oh, that's, yeah, but then I've lost. That's like prison. I'd have lost 10 years. Yeah, I guess you'd want to get through prison. That'd be horrible for that. We need these algorithms open source because machines can bend and warp time perceptually for you. Perception's everything now too.

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