Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #639 Kanye West SUED For $250M For Saying George Floyd Died From DRUGS w/Ammon Bundy

Episode Date: October 19, 2022

Tim, Ian, Luke, & Serge join Ammon Bundy to discuss Kanye West being sued over his comments about George Floyd, New polls showing there will be a red wave during the 2022 midterms, Ammon Bundy's true ...story about the Bundy Ranch Incident, A hilarious political ad showing a woman getting arrested for getting an abortion, and the BBC preparing secret talking points for when the energy crisis hits the UK. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So I guess the big news that's just dropping, Kanye West is being sued for $250 million because he said George Floyd died due to a fentanyl overdose. You cannot defame the dead. So this seems like a stupid waste of time. But I guess what they're going to be arguing is that accusing George Floyd of having died from fentanyl reflects poorly on the work being done by the family. And so I suppose in that regard, they're going to try and loop this around and be like, look, we're trying to be activists and be political. And the story of George Floyd matters. So they're actually defaming us. I don't think it's going to fly.
Starting point is 00:00:38 But we'll talk about that. Plus, there's just, you know, Kanye's in the news. Elon Musk is in the news. It looks like the Twitter deal is about to close. Twitter has the uh accounts of their employees so they can't trade uh shares which sounds like they're getting ready for this deal now that that was uh you know story is just breaking uh very very uh around now recently and uh we were we were planning on talking about initially which is why i'm a little was was a 32 point swing from independent women, from Democrat to Republican in like the past month, a major shift. Something happened. And now you've got these ridiculous Joe Biden coming out saying we're going to codify Roe v. Wade, even though it's not a top issue for voters.
Starting point is 00:01:19 The economy is. And you've got Eric Swalwell putting out what may be one of the funniest satirical parody bits I've ever seen. A woman eating dinner with her husband when the police come to arrest her because she got an abortion. But it's just like so poorly done. It looks like an SNL skit. And also head over to Timcast.com. Become a member directly by clicking that beautiful Join Us button to support our journalists directly. You'll also get access to the uncensored members only show. We have one coming up tonight at 11 p.m. where we talk about
Starting point is 00:01:50 issues that are not so family friendly and can get a little bit spicy. But also, we have a new episode of the Cast Castle vlog up tonight starring two amazing guests, Rusty Cage and Blair White. So you'll definitely not want to miss this one. It's at timcast.com. It's probably going to get a lot of people really angry. So I'm really excited. Should be, I don't know, some people might be offended by it, but it's all jokes. It's all jokes. Blair was fantastic. Rusty Cage was hilarious. So I'm really excited for this episode of the Cast Castle Vlog. We're getting there. We're ramping up, making things better and better. And of course, we have a bunch of other shows.
Starting point is 00:02:25 So don't forget to smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us today to talk about all of this and more is Ammon Bundy. Thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here. You sound like it. Yeah, it sounds fun. So who are you for those that aren't familiar?
Starting point is 00:02:43 So I live in idaho i'm running for governor in idaho and um but mostly i'm a husband a father uh i grew up on a ranch that kind of got famous in 2014 the bundy ranch and uh a lot of things happened there that maybe we'll talk about absolutely get a chance anyway So there was a standoff with the feds. Yeah. I believe people went to prison. Yeah, my family had been ranching there for, well, now 150 years. Wow. And the federal government came in and basically said that we couldn't do it anymore.
Starting point is 00:03:18 They wanted to make our ranch a mitigation area for the desert tortoise. And my dad wasn't willing to give up his rights. And so he decided he was going to take a stand and it got a lot of attention internationally and here in the United States. And that kind of kicked me out of my little comfort zone. And ever since then, I've been fighting and standing up and helping people. And now I'm running for governor. Right on. Well, we'll talk about, we'll definitely be talking about that. That'll be interesting.
Starting point is 00:03:49 So thanks for joining us. Absolutely. We also got the t-shirt salesman himself. I have so many questions. This is going to be a great podcast. Hey, guys. I'm here to be more anti-government than our anti-government guest. My name is Luke Rudasky of wearechanged.org.
Starting point is 00:04:04 And I come here with one very simple message. Regulate your government, not your neighbor. If you agree with that message, you could get the shirt on thebestpoliticalshirts.com because you do. That's why I'm here. Thank you so much for having me. I will be playing statist on the show tonight.
Starting point is 00:04:19 The left-wing guy that wants to, you know, talk. I'll be the authoritarian. I'm just kidding. Good to see you, man. You guys going to come over the table at each other? Yeah, most likely. We'll roll around. We've been meaning to work out together anyway,
Starting point is 00:04:31 so I think it'll be a lot of fun. And I am here representing Idaho. I'm going for you, Mr. Guy. There you go. All right. Well, let's just jump into this first story. Check it out from Yahoo. George Floyd's daughter announces $250 million lawsuit against Kanye West.
Starting point is 00:04:46 And then it says the mother of George Floyd's daughter announced they are filing a $250 million lawsuit against Kanye West over his recent statements about Floyd's death. The rapper who goes by Ye erroneously declared on a podcast that Floyd died from fentanyl, not as the result of police brutality. Now, you see, I love how they say he erroneously declared. No, Kanye defiantly declared. He was basically saying, I don't agree with your assessment that it was police brutality. Now, the official coroner's report says, I think it was the police action and they were contributing factors which included heart disease and drug use. The report actually showed, I believe,
Starting point is 00:05:28 that he had fentanyl, norfentanyl, THC, methamphetamine in his system. And nicotine as well. And nicotine, so he's smoking cigarettes. There's five drugs, yeah, in his system. Wow. And I guess the report was that he was chewing on a speedball, which is like meth and fentanyl combined or something. Is that what it is? Speedball is cocaine and heroin,
Starting point is 00:05:43 I think, combined. But in this case, it would be fentanyl. Oh, okay. So apparently he was's cocaine and heroin i think combined but in this case it'd be fentanyl oh okay so apparently he was like chewing on it and then he spit it out or whatever i don't know so you look this is kanye west's opinion he's allowed to have one he watched a documentary it's ridiculous that you can sue for that i mean you can sue a ham sandwich doesn't mean you're gonna win kanye's comments are a repugnant attempt to discount george floyd's life and to profit from his inhumane death attorney pat d dixon the third said in a statement on tuesday adding that the goal with the lawsuit is to hold mr west accountable for his flagrant remarks yeah he also had covid and a lot of people were pointing out uh particularly jack posobin that he was also unvaccinated so he was like take that leftist oh
Starting point is 00:06:22 yeah uh but but again this is just an opinion and And I think, you know, I was kind of talking about this story on my program yesterday, and I'm like, this could be the Alex Jones precedent that has been set here. As we've seen, Alex Jones has now been sued by the family members that he criticized to the tune of $1 billion. And I think this is going to be an important verdict that I think they're going to be playing off in this particular court case to try to stifle people from expressing opinions that they don't like.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And it's just crazy. You know, where's free speech? Where's the First Amendment? We should be able to exercise our ability to say whatever we want. So, Tim, is it all right if I just set this one out? I don't really want to be sued here. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Is that okay? All right. I'm totally joking. I mean, look, the mother all right if I just set this one out? I don't really want to be sued here. Okay. Is that okay? All right. I'm totally joking. I mean, look. The mother of George Floyd's daughter. What's that all about? I'm confused here. There's no baby mama?
Starting point is 00:07:16 That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, it's got to be something like that. There'll be George Floyd's baby mama. I'm trying to make sure I get it right. Not his girlfriend, though. They weren't official. No, like baby mama, meaning like someone you had a kid with. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Right. So, so the appropriate term would be baby mama. Yeah. I think that's that. I think you're right. Anyway, I was just kidding about setting this one out. Well, you don't want to get sued. We could all get sued by, you know, what we say here today, because if this is, I'm not,
Starting point is 00:07:38 I don't care. I'm actually being sued right now by St. Luke's for defamation. No way. St. Luke's Hospital. Yeah. No way. Because I stood for a family where they were involved in taking their child through a cps case and i i rallied a bunch
Starting point is 00:07:53 of people and and we got the we got the child back to his parents and then later uh st luke sued me oh wow defamation so look i mean it was not it mean, it's not quarter million or quarter billion dollars, but hey. Quarter million. Is that what it was? Yeah, 250 million. Oh, yeah. Alex Jones, you saw that story, right? $965 million.
Starting point is 00:08:13 That's the meme now. Like, whenever someone's caught lying, you just say, like, I demand $965 million. Now, a lot of people need to understand, like, he wasn't just ordered by the judge to pay $965 million. It was like 50 million for this family 60 million for this family 40 million for this family and i'm like where do those numbers come from you know is like what what's what's the true cost of you know let's let's say everything they accuse alex jones of doing is like true and legit like how do you get
Starting point is 00:08:38 the 40 million dollars and for that matter kanye west goes on some podcast and he goes i watched a documentary by candace owens and it said this is what really happened. And now he's got $250 million. Come on, man. You know, fine. Set the precedent because I got a bunch of lawsuits I could file against all the fake news. And you know what? If they want to play this game, each and every one of you can sue all of the fake news outlets for every lie they put out.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Yeah, let's do it. I'm glad we're revisiting the George Floyd stuff because it really concerned me the amount of drugs he had in his system. According to one coroner's report, there were two coroner's reports. One, the family had done and they said he died. I believe it was asphyxiation that brought on a heart attack. The other one said it was just a heart attack that killed him. And then you look at the drugs in his system. They said that he had levels of fentanyl that were uh intoxicating meaning he was high he was behind the wheel of a car when they pulled him out he was screaming if you see the second video of him screaming at the cops that were dragging him like trying to control him to take
Starting point is 00:09:33 him out of the car put him on the ground he's like put me on the ground put me on the ground i'm gonna die i'm gonna he kept screaming i'm gonna die i can't breathe i can't breathe he was screaming before they ever put any knees or anything on the guy. Like he was struggling. He was in a bad state. I think he was freaking out because he'd just been doing a speedball and he was behind the wheel of a car. Felt like he was going to go back to prison or go to prison. And he, the whole terror thing really pushed him into a, I'm not saying that terror killed
Starting point is 00:10:00 him, but you know, panic can cause people to die. You know, your, your your your heart can stop um for things like that so this is important to talk about here's here's the ridiculous thing politifact says floyd did have fentanyl in his system at the time of his death as west said however the hennepin county minnesota medical examiner ruled the cause of death was homicide due to cardiopulmonary arrest uh pulmonary arrest, complicating law enforcement, subdual restraint and neck compression. Experts in toxicology, cardiology and drug use stated death by overdose was unlikely or impossible. So what we're dealing with is Kanye West watched a documentary.
Starting point is 00:10:37 The real lawsuit would need to be pointed at the Daily Wire. Good luck with that, because here's Because here's how the stupid system works. I gotta admit, it's a relatively stupid system. A news outlet can publish a lie about anyone here. And then let's just hypothetically say NBC News publishes a false statement of fact. ABC then sees it and reposts it. NBC, the original story,
Starting point is 00:11:04 deletes it and says, whoops, we were wrong. But now it still exists on the other outlet. And if you sue them, they'll say, we cited a different website. So you have to go after them. They'll say, we already took it down. Then 800,000 other news outlets will go to
Starting point is 00:11:19 ABC and copy what they wrote and there is nothing you can do to get that stuff taken down absolutely right yep what do you got your power outlet was that me again yeah but ac hum yeah there it goes yep thanks man it's also important to note here that that kanye or ye whatever whatever he wants to be called yay yeah yeah it's yeah kanye say yeah from now on also donated two million dollars to the george floyd family a couple years ago. Wasn't enough.
Starting point is 00:11:48 They want more. He's a compassionate dude. Now they're suing him for $250 million. I mean, you know, these cases are just frivolous, and it shows you how people are being punished for expressing wrong think. That's not a society that is free. That's not a society that, of course, could allow freedom of speech. And again, this is something that should be important.
Starting point is 00:12:06 You could express any opinion, but because people get their emotions hurt, they could throw you in court and waste your time and money. That's just crazy. Hey, money sucks, man. So is this because in defamation cases, there has to be some way to prove that there was was a loss of income or something to that element. Damages. I mean, what are they claiming?
Starting point is 00:12:31 You know, I don't know. Maybe this is just a PR thing. It's going to get them a bunch of attention. It's a virtue signal. It's going to get them the, we're the good guys fighting back against crazy Kanye or whatever. Or they hope that he has a bunch of money. He'll just settle with them. They'll get a few hundred thousand dollars or something like that.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Maybe. But I also kind of think Kanye's the kind of guy who's going to be like, he's going to go to a lawyer and just be like, here's a million dollars. Have fun. When you're a billionaire like that, you don't really got to think twice about it. If Kanye had to pay restitution to this family, would it be taxed? Do they tax restitution payments? Do you guys know? I don't know, actually.
Starting point is 00:13:09 They might not. Because it's like a donation. You can be like, oh, here's an easy way to donate another $50 million to this family if I want to. Oh, yeah. That's a good point. I don't know. I think I actually talked to the lawyer about this, and I'm not exactly sure.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Maybe people in the chat might know better. But yeah, that's an interesting point because if you say, you cost me a million dollars, you've got to pay me the million dollars back, the argument is that you're already negative the million dollars. So you know what I mean? Like if I'm negative a million bucks,
Starting point is 00:13:36 you give me a million bucks, I'm at zero. Maybe that's the argument. I think this is really an example of piggybacking off the Alex Jones trial that we just saw where people that weren't even named in, yeah, we've've got a buzz we're trying to figure out where that's coming from it's not on my end though it's not my end it's unplugged um where people that weren't even named by alex jones uh for the definition thing all right we solved it there you go um people that weren't even named were suing alex and for defamation which is very odd because
Starting point is 00:14:03 normally if you're not named publicly then i don't i don't see what what basis you have or standing you have and that billion dollar settlement is like now people are feasting they're like oh anything anybody said about me that hurts my feelings i can maybe get money for just never describe people you know like just never identify someone in any meaningful way so like uh what did i say the other day that everybody i said something about uh annoying white liberal women on twitter you know who i'm talking about and then everyone oh yeah i know and i was like i i just said annoying white i don't know i wasn't referencing anyone in particular but everybody seemed to have someone in mind so there you go that annoying white liberal woman on twitter you know i'm talking about she is the worst she kicks
Starting point is 00:14:43 dogs it's like i didn't say who did i who am i who am i accusing i'm like you know nondescript if someone changes their name to white liberal woman can they retroactively sue all those people that went to jeffrey epstein island all of them they're all bad they're all bad i don't know though actually there's an interesting strategy in defamation like you know luke if you were to call out any one of those people who went to epstein island and you say as a statement of fact they did a thing they might be able to sue you and you can say oh no i'm being sued time to go to discovery show me all the communications you've had with epstein everything you've done
Starting point is 00:15:18 on the island and you could potentially open it up to be like, okay, let's see what you got. And then you get them under oath in front of a lawyer, and you can ask them the question directly. So strategic lawfare, I guess. I think there's pros and there's cons. If you have the time and the money, though, to deal with it, because you get sucked into the courts, and they just drag it on for years and years and years. You're paying an attorney.
Starting point is 00:15:46 You have to go to the hearings. It's just – and someone like Wes doesn't matter. He has an attorney do it. But if they're going after people who don't have the funds or the means to be able to defend themselves, it becomes quite a problem. Oh, you just lose instantly. Yeah, people really – you really don't understand this i mean if it you you can be just outright shut down if you get sued and you can't afford a defense like what do you even do so now you have to have
Starting point is 00:16:14 an attorney to uh for free speech right to be able to speak how you want to speak you have to have an attorney they're backing up and a couple hundred thousand dollars to defend yourself yep money talks for-profit lawfare i think that's a problem yeah oh yeah i mean but but lawyers provide the service i've talked to a bunch of lawyers about a whole bunch of other issues and there's there's varying degrees of issues where you know i've been defamed and they'll say there's no there's no standing here sorry you have no damages and then they'll also say i mean you can sue them and you know that it's just lawfare basically where it's like someone defames you know they defamed you but they're protected by the precedent times v sullivan meaning you know you need actual malice or you can't prove damages which is i i think that's absolutely insane because then you end end up with 100 news outlets all trying to destroy your ability to fundraise.
Starting point is 00:17:07 But then how do you prove it was their statements that stopped your ability to fundraise? So I'm thinking about like Project Veritas. How often has it been that Project Veritas has lost a donation because of defamation? How do you know? Are you going to go knock on the door and be like, ma'am, have you ever heard of us? Okay, would you have? You would have donated to us. But what?
Starting point is 00:17:26 Oh, you saw ABC. Well, there we go, now I'll write that down, that's damage. No. There's no way to find those people. So I think there's pros and there's cons here. I actually think the solution to this should be, if you get sued, like, if you sue someone for defamation, the immediate,
Starting point is 00:17:42 there should be a, were you damaged by this? And if so, upon proving fault, the individual should compensate you for the damages. However, if the damages are ill-defined in either context, you should be forced to issue a correction stating the facts. So if Luke said something like Ian once, you know, threw a jar out the window and then Ian proves it wasn't or Ian then sues and says, prove it. And Luke can't, then Luke would have to be like, I have no evidence to support this claim. Or, you know, in the, in the instance, it probably needs to be a bit more specific than that. But my, my point is if someone says I did a thing I didn't do and it's,
Starting point is 00:18:20 it's provably false, I should be able to sue them to force them to publish a correction prominently to, to rectify the damaged reputation, because it's notably false, I should be able to sue them to force them to publish a correction prominently to rectify the damaged reputation. Because it's not just about money, it's about reputation in the long run. And then what happens if someone defames you and the damages don't come until a year later? You know, it's just, there's got to be a way to solve for this
Starting point is 00:18:39 because the media can just keep lying about everybody and getting away with it. Well, yeah, that's what they do. That's their modus operandi. Modus operandi way is that it yeah it sounds latin yeah it is well there you go let's talk politics now that we talked about kanye west we got this story from vanity fair how scared should democrats be about the midterms i'll just jump right to the bottom and i'll explain they say even if you ignore the eye-popping 32-point swing among independent women, the near Republican lead, it shows, tracks with other recent polls.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Simply put, for some reason, in the past couple of weeks, almost all of the polls have shifted from Democrat to Republican. And now it's looking like if you if you add that together with the bias in the polls as it is, red wave, red tsunami. So are we excited? Are we secretly laughing because we know that Republicans aren't actually going to do anything if they do win? Where are we at with this? I'm I don't know if excited is the right word, but I'm satisfied with the change in politics. Also, change in geographicals.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I've been just watching maps of countries changing over the years. And people, I think, have this idea that borders are stagnant. Borders constantly have changed throughout history. And I think political affiliations, political parties, new ones are created. Old ones go defunct. Tulsi Gabbard left the Democratic Party. I think it's inevitable that that thing is. I mean, as people wake up and see that the fascist business collusion with the Democratic Party,
Starting point is 00:20:10 it becomes kind of apparent that it's not the good guys. Not that the people are bad. I think a lot of the people involved are just involved because they always have been. But that system is pretty busted up, looks like, from the outside. So is it more than just the women or uh you know is it a full shift there's a full shift across the board but but a 32 point this is one poll by the way maybe it's just a bad sample size but among independent females 32 point swing i mean that's it's insane yeah i think that's so telling it was plus 14 democrat and then a couple
Starting point is 00:20:42 weeks later plus 18 republican wow and i think it might have to do with schools, but I really do think it just kind of comes down to gas prices. Yeah. Yeah. Joe Biden got caught in a quid pro quo with Saudi Arabia, and then people were just like, I'm sick of it. And when you're running, what are you seeing on the ground? What are your people telling you about the projections? How are you seeing this political landscape yeah well in i in idaho we have this struggle between what we call conservatives and republicans because everybody in idaho is pretty much republican right literally and so
Starting point is 00:21:17 like the the deep state the establishment well they're republican well and the conservatives who want freedom and want you and want the good things of life and want this country to be free, well, they're conservatives, but they're also Republican. And so that's what we're seeing, kind of this battle of establishment Republicans versus true conservatives. And it's very interesting. And the mothers have a lot to say about it.
Starting point is 00:21:45 They're concerned. And I don't know if this is, you know, nationally why this poll is so strong when it comes to women. But, you know, they're worried about their children. They're worried about their, you know, they're worried about the future of their children. You know, that's constantly on their mind. I'm sure they don't like paying the five dollar gas either oh yeah but uh but i think they have a sense of like if if we don't do something right now like uh you know if we don't correct this uh this is going to get much much worse so there was
Starting point is 00:22:18 a poll where they asked people would you vote for someone who denied the election and democrats overwhelmingly said no and republicans were kind of split i think it's funny because the democrat perspective is trump and so they just think they're ragging on trump but if it's like okay what about hillary clinton she denied the election several times she still does to this day and then they're like oh well you know but i think it's funny because ultimately what the poll found is that no one cares no one cares about this stuff. They're going to them and saying like January 6th, even Saturday Night Live was making fun of the January 6th committee.
Starting point is 00:22:52 And they called Adam Schiff a villain from the horror movie Smile. And then he was like, we're not even going to listen to what he has to say. He's too spooky. And they just skip over him. I thought that was funny. Just ragging on the guy. But hey, there you go. The January 6th stuff is so unappealing that that Saturday Night Live thought making fun of it would actually do
Starting point is 00:23:09 well for them. And it did. Although they did make a joke that you're either a Republican who's not watching it or a Democrat who's nodding so much your head's falling off. But then they mock Chuck Schumer mercilessly and Nancy Pelosi. So, you know it is what it is but i think the reality that they're that they know but won't let go you know nobody who's voting is voting because of this i mean look maybe a handful of people are like we better we better save our democracy but i guarantee you you walk down the street and you say who are you voting for they're gonna say republican why gas They're going to say, Republican. Why? Gas. Okay, that's it. End of story. Economics seems to be the number one reason why power shifts from one party to the other. How's your race going particularly?
Starting point is 00:23:58 Who are you running against? What's the biggest difference between you and your competitor? So I'm running against the republican incumbent um brad little and uh he's you know the the establishment guy there the deep state um if you will and uh kind of rhino yeah he's absolutely a rhino uh you know idaho was the we we look at idaho and i think the rest of the country looks at idaho and says hey you know they're really conservative they're kind of, you know, more far right. However, Idaho was the first state to arrest pastors for having church outside during COVID. Wow.
Starting point is 00:24:36 And we were the first state to arrest a mother for going taking her kids to the park, you know, and it was all done under governor little's lockdown orders and so you know i mean the difference is you know completely different i don't believe the way he believes i don't believe that that's the purpose of government i believe the purpose of government is to protect people's rights not to infringe upon them and uh and this is idaho yeah this is idaho you got people in Oregon who want to leave Oregon and join Idaho. Yeah, the highways are clear full of people coming into Idaho. It's the fastest growing state in the country.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Yeah, but do you know who it is? Tell me. Well, we're hearing a lot that wealthy people are buying up these wealthy ranches and estates. Prices are insane. I think they're called commie-fornians. Commie-fornians. And I think there's also a lot of elitists buying doomsday properties and farming properties.
Starting point is 00:25:33 And there's also one guy who loves to force down fake meat down everyone's throat who's also buying up a lot of property everywhere else. Who? What's his name? It starts with a B. Friend of yours? Friend of yours. It's like he represents closing of something closing of gates or
Starting point is 00:25:50 something like that yeah i don't know who that is so can we not say that then on this show no it's bill gates is a scumbag full disclosure is he i don't know him i'm gonna stop insulting people's uh person and start insulting the things they do yeah there you go because i have a feeling i'm gonna meet these people one day you, when Bill Gates was being interviewed about being on Epstein's plane and then just went, well, he's dead now anyway. I was like, wow, what a bad guy. You know, someone lost their life here. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:26:14 Like, you know, Bill, come on. He was your friend, Bill. I mean, you were saying they were friends. They were very close to the point where he even divorced his wife because of their close friendship together. You were saying. Jeez, dude. That was your buddy, man man that was your best friend and if someone's going to treat their best friend like that imagine how
Starting point is 00:26:30 they're going to treat you i just want to point out real quick that we did this story about how bill gates has organizations that track mentions of him you know in media so there you go bill anyway you were saying what's up billy um you were mentioning earlier a difference between conservatives and republicans, especially in Idaho. Do you find that as conservatives that people tend more towards libertarianism, but that they don't adopt the Libertarian Party because it's too small or something? I don't think that it's too small. I think the issue ultimately is kind of on abortion. Like they won't go to the libertarian side because of abortion and also because of kind of law enforcement, really.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Like they just love law enforcement no matter what they do. And this would be the establishment and the conservatives. But people are waking up that there's good law enforcement, there's bad, and it can be very dangerous. And so I would say if there was two issues, it would be that it would be, you know, libertarian view on on abortion and then also just law enforcement and their role and who they are and what they do. So if you would win the race, what's the first few things you would do? What's your policies that you're running on? How would you change Idaho? So one is abortion. I mean, we have this opportunity. I am absolutely for protecting life. I believe that life begins at conception. And so I think that we have to protect that life.
Starting point is 00:27:59 So number one, or at least that's the first thing I will do. And Roe versus Wade being overturned, push it back onto the states, so it makes it a lot easier for me to do that. We also have major problems in Idaho, well, in the west, because if you look at a map, and people out east just don't realize this, but if you look at a map, east of the Colorado Rockies, the federal government controls 51% of the landmass. And in Idaho, it's 61%. And then they're controlling 72% of the subsurface mineral rights. And so it's making it so like Idaho can't even pay its own bills. Like we're beholden to the federal government
Starting point is 00:28:37 to pay our bills because they're controlling all our land and our resources. And so that battle has to be fought. And I plan on fighting that. How did the feds get control of the land? So it's a long, long story, but this is like the whole battle that my family was in, you know, that basically culminated in 2014, because the states were enabled into the union, and all the land and all the resources were supposed to then go to the state and the jurisdiction of that state. But through this environmentalist movement land and all the resources were supposed to then go to the state and the jurisdiction of that state. But through this environmentalist movement and because the area is so arid, people didn't go live on it. They couldn't live on it.
Starting point is 00:29:15 And the federal government came in later and claimed it. And now they're claiming it as their own. They're saying it's in trust and that they never released it or disposed of it is the right word. And so there's this major battle with families like my father, my family, my father in particular, where they're trying to defend their rights. My family's been there for now almost 150 years. And the federal government comes in and says, well, we're taking it from you. Well, there's this, and that's happening all over the West. Well, I mean, but you got to trust the government, right?
Starting point is 00:29:52 They're here to help. Sure, yeah. They're here to help. And they're doing it for, you know, the right reason, I'm sure, you know. What was it, the tortoise? Yeah, desert tortoise. Well, you got to protect the tortoise. Well, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:04 What is your family for all tortoise? That's right. Yeah, I mean. I Well, you've got to protect a tortoise. Well, yeah. What is your family for all? Tortoise. That's right. Yeah, I mean, my family doesn't need to make a living. They can move to the city and do whatever they're going to do there, even though we've been there for 150 years. Have you considered owning nothing and being happy? I have a hard time considering that.
Starting point is 00:30:20 I just can't see how it'll work. There's some comfy pods out there, though. And, you know, video games, VR, they're pretty cool. Maybe the tortoise. How about some bug protein? Here's a compromise. We'll take your whole family. We'll put them in pods.
Starting point is 00:30:33 We'll give them VR headsets that simulate working on a ranch out in Idaho. And all the bugs you could eat. Non-stop bugs. Yeah. Exoskeletons, right? That are bad for us. I don't know. Yeah, kind of. You know?o exoskeletons. Right. That are bad for us. I don't know. You know,
Starting point is 00:30:46 yeah. Indigestible bug shells. So the feds came in and were like, by the way, we've owned this the whole time and you didn't know kind of thing. Or did they offer compensation? No, not at all.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Not at all. They know. So yeah, they did do that, which is an absolute lie. They, they try to make the people of this country believe that that has always been in federal hands and that it wasn't disposed of to the state and to the people.
Starting point is 00:31:12 And it's just a flat lie. Well, really what it was is the West is just arid. Like you can't have farms and you can't grow things in much of the West. And so people didn't settle there. And they just came in and said, look at all this land that no one's living on no one's claimed we're going to take it but the problem is is in the west you don't claim the land you claim like the grazing rights like my dad owns the grazing rights the logging rights the mining the mineral rights and those were like deeded rights with the states and so here the fed Fed comes in, Feds come in and say, well, we're taking the real estate and therefore anything else that has rights on it, we own, we control.
Starting point is 00:31:49 And it's this huge messed up legal battle that's going on because my dad has grazing rights. He has 11 of them deeded with the state of Nevada. And then the federal government comes along and says, well, we own the land. So you can't graze here. And he's like, wait a minute. Now that sounds bunk because I've been, we've been dealing with this when we were moving out to West Virginia. Everybody warns you, you're only buying surface rights. And I'm like, what does that mean? And that means that if somebody owns the mineral rights, they can come onto your property in
Starting point is 00:32:18 a way that's reasonable and start digging. And then I'm like, what, what am I buying then? Like, if I'm going to build something here, I can't have you come on with some machinery and start digging in my ground yeah so they they separated that this was all part of this uh they separated made it so that you can separate the real estate the land with the mineral rights and that that wasn't that wasn't always the case remember the uh beverly hillbillies where they bought this land and they were digging and this oil comes out next thing you know they you know they're millionaires and they moved to Beverly Hills? Well, that's the way it used to be.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Like if you own the land, you also own the resources underneath it or above it. Yeah, but now big corporations will buy the land, buy the mineral rights, sell the surface to you. And then in the event they actually find something, show up one day and be like, out of the way. Now, to our benefit, I suppose, there's not really a whole lot going on in West Virginia in terms of minerals. So unless they discover something they didn't know about before, some new mineral.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Yeah, they're using all the coal gone then? Because I thought West Virginia was all about coal. I think that's in the mountains, though. Like mountaintop and stuff like that. I don't know for sure. What I do know is that when we were looking at land, we mountaintop and stuff like that. I don't know for sure. What I do know is that when we were looking at land, we went over this
Starting point is 00:33:27 and they were like, you don't have mineral rights, but to be honest, they've already done a sweep. Here's the report. There's nothing here. It's like mud and rock, like nothing worth anything.
Starting point is 00:33:37 But there's been a new breakthrough in underground scanning with, I think, lasers and there's underground mapping. Yeah, it might not be LIDAR, but a form of laser underground mapping. So they might start finding crazy minerals deeper than you thought i don't know they could discover something new that's what people don't realize we may find out eventually that there's something you know look we think we know everything we think not literally but we think we know
Starting point is 00:34:01 and then one day it's like oh hey wait a minute we need this kind of mineral and it's not just this you know graphene for instance we'll use that as an example yeah what if they just don't want to mine the carbon they're like oh now dirt itself is a mineral not that what if they discover that there are certain carbon deposits that are more uh that can easily be converted into graphene for some reason and now all of a sudden they call it something like graph carbon deposits and they say well we didn't realize this 10 years ago and we thought your into graphene for some reason and now all of a sudden they call it something like graph carbon deposits and they say well we didn't realize this 10 years ago and we thought your property was worthless but now fortunately we have the mineral rights to your property and we found there's graph
Starting point is 00:34:33 carbon deposits so we're coming on in baby yours and they they can take up to at least in the at least in the west uh nevada and they can take up to 49 of your surface rights to to mine or to extract whatever subsurface but with you guys it was just about a tortoise well yeah so we're like what so we're like in the like the desert desert like if there's a a desert in this maybe the sahara desert is a little bit drier but that's about it i, we're talking about the Mojave Desert. Like, no one wanted to live there. In fact, there was a group of people that came. What are they grazing on?
Starting point is 00:35:11 What are the cattle grazing on? Just like there's shrubs. And certain times of the year, it'll rain and there will be grass. You know, they have to struggle. And then we have these waters because they're springs so we have waters all around where they can they're just little springs but we capture the water so they have water troughs and they don't have to travel so far but that area was like 150 years ago no one wanted it like the people that came in before my family
Starting point is 00:35:40 they they went back and reported to Brigham Young in Salt Lake and said that the place was uninhabitable, right? And then we went in there a few years later and started, you know, making a life out of it and a living out of it. And then now, you know, for whatever reason, well, we know why, but they, you know, now people want it. Darrell Bock Yeah. Was there like uranium or something well yeah i was going to show you this uh i don't you know i don't know if you but the real reason the real reason is quite obvious of what what they want and when you look at a at a map of the federal control i'll just show you for for the fun of it right you all right with that oh is it is
Starting point is 00:36:25 it is it definitely minerals of some sort well so this right here is that's a map of of the the red is federal controlled land yeah so you can see the west is like they own nevada yeah they yeah 89 but then what do they want with the land well this is this is the whole point. So let's look at these are the mercury and gold mines. Yeah, here we go. It's the same map, right? Right. And like here's a uranium. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:55 It's the same map. Called it. And that's what they want. They're controlling the natural resources, and they want to make people think that they're doing it to preserve it. Why don't they just come up to you guys and be like, here's $10 million, have a nice day? Because they didn't think they want to make people think that they're doing it to preserve it why don't they just come up to you guys and be like here's 10 million dollars have a nice day because they didn't think they had to they thought that they could come in and just take it because they've done it to to hundreds and hundreds of other ranchers and and loggers and miners and everything
Starting point is 00:37:15 else i mean look they just print the money anyway they should just walk up and be like here's 10 million bucks yeah carry on if they do it to us you know then they have to do it to everybody else and they found a better way. They just run you out. Well, apparently not now. I mean, at the very least, they haven't come to you since then and been like, okay, how much do you want? Actually, they tried that with my dad. So the Constitution, which I know they don't follow it and why they care care but but they actually did they tried to get the county to buy my dad's rights and my dad refused he didn't want to sell
Starting point is 00:37:52 him right and so and and i'll say this though but they probably they can't have him offered a good enough amount no they offered him 75 000 right right so which is you know the price of a pickup right now so yeah exactly yeah your family's history everything your legacy your your farm it's gone here 75k it's like yeah but but it was in the attitude well we're going to take it anyway so here this is an easy way out for you and my dad was like absolutely no so what if they came and said two million dollars would you guys pack up no so no no way my my dad has been offered for because he has a lot of water rights like actual coming down the river too and uh and private private property there and so he's
Starting point is 00:38:34 been offered a decent amount of you know millions of dollars and he's just not he doesn't want to sell i mean for whatever reason he has his reasons he's not going to sell that has he considered taking like hundreds of thousands of balloons and putting them in his chimney and then flying the house away take your property i saw a story about that once it's crazy it's crazy what what's going on what happened what was the resolution i heard that the ranch like the story goes you guys were like no we're not giving it they came on the property there was a shootout and then so uh there wasn't a shootout but what ultimately what happened this was during obama 2014 and he thought he had enough political power and and he had a basically an internal internal bureaucratic army and he sent that
Starting point is 00:39:17 them down upon my family um it was the fbi which we didn't know that at first, but FBI, Bureau of Land Management, U.S. Forest Service. That's BLM. Yeah. Yeah. The other BLM. Bureau of Land Management. Before it was cool. Before it was cool.
Starting point is 00:39:32 And they came down with a 213 federal armed, basically army, and locked the ranch down. They began to kill the cattle from helicopters, burying them in mass graves, destroy the water infrastructure, destroy the corrals. And meanwhile, they were threatening that this would be another Waco or Ruby Ridge if we resisted. So it took us a while to gain enough courage to start to confront them and stand up to them. And people started coming. So they killed your animals? Yeah, they killed like 60 head and buried them in mass graves. How?
Starting point is 00:40:06 With a helicopter? Shooting them with helicopters, yeah. I mean, this all sounds like explicitly illegal. Like they're committing crimes. That's the definition of government. Yeah, but they also claimed, you know, they were saying we were trespassing. Yeah, but I don't think, like if someone's cow wandered on my property, I can't kill it. Yeah, I mean, the federal government does what they want to do yeah all right right
Starting point is 00:40:30 they do what they want to do if it was a bull maybe and like went on my land and like i was like something yeah but there's like a cow you know a couple of cow walking by i think it's no one no no one would find it reasonable that you start mowing them down from a helicopter they'd be like yo dude what are you doing? Especially if they're branded. I agree. I mean, no, look, right now we've got the story with Lauren Boebert, where the Democrats accused her of killing a dog.
Starting point is 00:40:51 And then, like, you read for 10 seconds into the story, and you're like, oh, the dog broke onto her property and was attacking her goats. Then you read it was actually her other neighbor who killed the dog, because the dog had actually attacked a bunch of animals. And Lauren's like, I had nothing to do with this talk about defamation right yeah seriously but i mean in in in that capacity it's like you know you've got something attacking your animals you protect your property protect your animals absolutely but that's what not what was going no this is that this was killing a bunch of cows they were just killing them burying them in mass graves causing mayhem literally and then we started so the interesting
Starting point is 00:41:25 thing is is that they they set up these areas that they called first amendment areas they were like miles away from the ranch and they were like these construction mesh you know the orange construction mass freedom cages yeah and they and they said that if you're going to protest or demonstrate or anything our actions you have to do it in there. That's your First Amendment area. So, of course, we didn't do that. So they started sticking dogs on us and tasing us and throwing us to the ground and doing all this stuff. Well, people were filming it.
Starting point is 00:41:57 And they started sending it all over the country. And next thing you know, we got hundreds and then thousands of people coming. You know what this story reminds me of? Avatar. You guys know that that movie yeah yeah where where the noble true landowners are mining their own business on their big tree and the evil government comes in to steal all those minerals beneath that tree just killing everybody that's right yeah that's the story here the only thing is it doesn't really work towards their holly because it's a bunch of white ranchers, I guess, and not Native Americans. Yeah, that's why we weren't so popular, right?
Starting point is 00:42:29 Because we were just there and evidently— Colonizers. Yeah. Well, and I do say this all the time. I know when I was born there, there was no Native Americans other than other ranchers. There was other ranchers that were actually Native Americans that ranched in there. And they were pushed out and driven out just like by the rest of us yeah well that's another story about the the the colonial patriarchy government kicking out you
Starting point is 00:42:52 know the honest worker right that's right yeah it's not it's not a racist system it's just hungry for money and resources power and there's this um like unholy alliance between those who want to control the resources, make money and all of that, build their bureaucracies, all that power stuff that we know about, and these globalist environmentalists, the green religion. And they've like locked arms in basically coming and trying to control and drive mankind off the land.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Oh, that's very telling. And I think that correlates with what you're saying about going after the sandals for the tortoise. Yeah land that's oh that's very uh telling and and i think that correlates with what you're saying about going after the sand it's for the tortoise yeah that's exactly that's that's why so you've got you know this the global environmentalists that are like saying we got to save the tortoise which it's all based upon lies uh and then you have the those who want to control the the resources the the subsurface mineral rights and the land and so forth saying like well come come with us and we'll we'll stop people from using us and then then they take it for themselves and that's that's what's been happening all over the west is it like a tortoise haven or something you guys got a lot of them well i mean there's there's a lot there's a
Starting point is 00:44:02 decent amount of desert tortoise down there but but the thing of it is the studies, actually the true studies, actually showed that when there's cattle there, there was more desert tortoise because their main staple was manure. They actually ate the… Turtles ate the whole thing. Oh, yeah, they dig through it. Yeah, the cow pies, they'd go in it and they would dig it and they would thrive off of it.
Starting point is 00:44:24 So when you had more cattle, you had more desert tortoise. But they didn't care about that. They didn't care about that. I was going to say that because it seems to me that cattle coming in, it's going to expand the ecosystem. That the manure is going to result in more growth. It's going to deposit minerals or whatever and then just result in a more robust ecosystem, albeit still small and desert-like. But Tim, I just want to talk about this fact here. The U.S. government literally tested 1,032 nuclear weapons on American soil.
Starting point is 00:44:56 This is a government that does not care about any kind of natural environment or anything. The U.S. military industrial complex, the U.S. war machine is one of the biggest polluters by definition. And of course, that's just being pushed around. But why did they test those nuclear weapons? To protect the tortoise.
Starting point is 00:45:17 They knew that Vladimir Putin and Khrushchev and Lenin and all those guys going way back, what they were really after, the Soviets? Killing turtles. They needed to nuke the tortoise to save the tortoise. It's pretty simple. Got to blow them up.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Yeah, yeah. In my opinion, the federal government owns 28% of all land in the United States. That is 28% too much, in my own personal opinion. And those free speech zones are absolutely absurd. And I think they were ruled unconstitutional they were originally started by george w bush when he was trying to stop the protest against his regime and and his larger anti-war protests that of course people were protesting against and they just were like well you can't really protest but you can in our little regulated areas where of
Starting point is 00:46:01 course you don't have any speech at all you You're just cattle yourself, which is absolutely crazy. So, yeah, the people launching nuclear bombs on American soil, I'm not going to be lectured about how they need to be there to save the environment. That's bunk. That's bull crap. We'll come back to a little bit of this, but I want to jump to this political story here. We have a tweet from Eric Swalwell, and this might be one of the funniest bits i've ever seen this makes saturday saturday night live look like you know amateur improv hour at a local local college comedy club maga republicans want women arrested for having an abortion this is what that looks like all right let's play the
Starting point is 00:46:37 video it's got 2.5 million views as of as of 24 hours ago i hope you guys are ready to enjoy this oh wait i gotta fix the audio. I always do that. Because before the show we switch the output. Alright, there it is. There it is. Nom nom nom nom nom nom nom. You're weird. He is weird. But cute.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Gross. Larry Anderson? Yes? I have a warrant for your arrest. Arrest for what? Penal Code 243 violation. Unlawful termination of a pregnancy. You gotta be kidding me. That is my personal business.
Starting point is 00:47:20 That's for the courts to decide, ma'am. Your medical records have been subpoenaed and Dr. Landry's already in custody. No, my... My god, you can't just... You will have to submit to a physical examination. What? By who? No, no, no one's touching me! Sir, sir, get down!
Starting point is 00:47:38 Oh, they're guns out. Ma'am, turn around! Oh my god! Put your hands behind your back. Now! Why is this happening? Love you, turn around. Oh, my God. Put your hands behind your back. Now. Why is this happening? Love you, honey bear. The acting, wow. We're just enforcing the law here.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Elections have consequences. Vote Democrat on November 8th. Stop Republicans from criminalizing abortion everywhere. Oh, there's more. Protect women's rights and freedom. Please don't do this. Please. Eric Swalwell.
Starting point is 00:48:14 You know what I love? Like in the beginning, when he's doing like, near the baby's mouth, and then the wife is like, he's cute. And the kid's like, she's gross.
Starting point is 00:48:22 I was thinking like, the reason why they can't get the acting right on what a family looks like is because these people don't have families. So they're just like, I think this is what it looks like. I also want to point out that the first reply you can see is from Adrian Curry. Shout out. People cannot afford food, gas, or even their own homes. And this is your strategy? LOL.
Starting point is 00:48:41 No, seriously. Like the production value is so bad. Yo, the cops cops if they ever did show would be like man we have a we have a warrant for your arrests come with me they wouldn't be like you're gonna get a medical exam we've rested your doctor wouldn't say any of those things so you've right to remain silent anything you say or do can be used against you in a court of law please place your hands behind your back and that would be it and everyone would the husband would be like what's going on and then she'd get arrested that's about it would you be arresting people i mean yeah well i look at
Starting point is 00:49:10 it like okay there's a little baby right there uh eating uh and what if they what if they decided they were going to kill that little baby then wouldn't it be justified that's her personal business well yeah yeah i guess that between them two right like you know but that that Well, that's her personal business. Well, yeah, yeah, I guess that between them two, right? Like, you know, but that that to me, that's how I, I view it. And, you know, the more I look into abortion, and the more I look into really what it is, it is murdering babies. That's what it is. And so, yeah, it should be, it should be enforced. Do you think from the point of conception at any point, abortion should be made illegal, penalty, prison? I do believe. I believe that life begins at conception.
Starting point is 00:49:51 I believe that that is the correct point in which you would determine it alive and then that the state's job is to protect it. Should the mother go to prison as well as the doctor, like in this video from Eric Swalwell? Yeah. It's a sad, unfortunate thing, and it's going to be very difficult to try to get society to switch their minds on this, that it's not okay to kill a baby. And it's going to be hard. I think we've got to be somewhat, you know, I hate saying this, but, you know, there's a transition that you have to go through. But it is not okay to kill babies. I mean, if you, like the contrast of this, I guess, because this really isn't a great production, but just go and watch.
Starting point is 00:50:40 I mean, it's terrible to watch, but just go watch a video of an abortion you i know what you need to do you need to make your own version of this but like the mom has like a mustache she's twirling i'm going to kill this baby and then the the husband's like yes uh so but no i mean if that's the case um a lot of conservatives say they would never go as far as arresting the mother for this. It's the provider who kills the baby who would be punished, not the mother. But you're saying you think the mother is involved. Well, I mean, if justice was to be served, it's those who had the intent to kill. What about exceptions?
Starting point is 00:51:20 Do you think there should be exceptions? So I think conception should be termed, because there is the, where you have, where the baby gets in the, excuse me, I'm trying to get in the Philippian tube. Ectopic pregnancies. Yeah, there you go. That's the term. And that will kill a mother. But I think those are considered non-viable as it is.
Starting point is 00:51:44 And so those aren't, at least for a long time, that wasn't considered an abortion. And then in vitro is another thing. Like, you know, because they're actually taking the sperm and the egg out and they're fertilizing it, if you will. And then they're putting it. And so some people are like, well, that's conceptionist too. So I think that it needs to be determined or as part of the definition must be that it's in the womb. There's challenges here because I understand what you're saying. And I lean more on the traditional pro-choice side. The issue I take with it I also view as a libertarian perspective in that there are circumstances.
Starting point is 00:52:25 There's challenges here, I'll admit. So let me walk through this. There are circumstances where if a woman does have a legitimate risk or problem with the pregnancy, how do you get through that effectively? Does the state have to get involved and issue a permit to allow it to happen? These things can become overwhelmingly complicated. And then what is an actual health matter for the mother is now an issue of the state
Starting point is 00:52:48 and certification or permitting and stuff like that. I have a hard, I have an issue with that. Well, I do understand though, just to walk through this, I think abortion is wrong. I think too many women today are using it as contraception.
Starting point is 00:53:02 I think the mainstream left, the modern left is pro-abortion. And that makes, there's no middle ground for, you know, how we actually deal with an extremely complicated, and let's be real, there is no middle ground. I mean, you either are going to create a circumstance where women will get elective abortions as birth control, even though we think it's wrong, or you'll penalize the woman or arrest the doctor or the woman. So, and that's why, you know, I intend on declaring life begins at conception and making that the point. Because ultimately, it's a determination of when life begins, because then you have to say, well,
Starting point is 00:53:48 then it's not okay to take the life, right? I mean, if life begins at this point, then it's not okay to take the life. Is it, you know, we all agree that after the baby is born, it's not okay to take their life, right? Well, I don't believe that that's when life begins i believe that it begins at conception and so therefore the state's job is to protect that life and uh and ultimately when it comes down to like a court proceeding or a trial or prosecution it comes down to intent what about in the case of rape so i actually i'll admit to you that i did at one time believe that that should be an exception but i do not believe that there is a right way to take a life i i hear what you're saying i and i understand the moral position the challenge i have in this circumstance let me pause first because
Starting point is 00:54:40 you know people get content and get heated on this one. Well, let me just say. We'll get through this. We'll get through it. We'll get through it. A woman who through no fault of her own is raped and forced into carrying a baby. She did not. She was completely responsible in every right and was victimized. I don't see how the state can determine that you have to provide your body to another living person now i i do understand this is the it is extremely rare that this is the case in terms of abortion
Starting point is 00:55:10 this is the problem i have 90 was it 92 percent of abortion is elective or no no reason give it just contraception contraceptive abortions on medical that that's it that to me is insane but the issue i run into is the government being like, now I know you were victimized, but we the state have determined your body and blood now must be shared with another person. So this is the reality of it, though. The reality of it is, is those who get an abortion suffer more emotionally and many other ways because they got an abortion versus those who actually keep the baby they may turn they may give it up for adoption whatever but but they are i mean they
Starting point is 00:55:51 are healed more by having going through that pregnancy and having that baby it's it's difficult yeah but that's that's not that's that's not a legal more or moral argument i mean that that i can't understand i can't understand that argument mean, if there's a woman who says, you will not, the government will not force me to carry my rapist's child, like, you might think she'd be better off. But if she's saying,
Starting point is 00:56:15 if she's going to kill herself, I know they're rare too. It's the right of that child to live. That's where it becomes, it's difficult, right? Because we're talking about a life here. That's why there's no middle. Just because of the circumstance that you were created, if you will,
Starting point is 00:56:37 now because of that circumstance, we're going to take your life. And I just don't agree with that. I think that the better way is to to side with life. That's where I that's where I end up. Seamus Coughlin of Freedom Tunes made the point. I believe this was the point you made Seamus. So if I'm wrong, forgive me. But he said the detriment to the female in this scenario is less than the detriment to taking the life.
Starting point is 00:57:03 So so his point was basically yeah you know you know what this woman might now have to suffer for for another nine months but suffering for nine months is not nearly as bad as killing determining the life of another being i i i still run into this i don't like government and i and i don't like that idea but but i certainly understand believe me i, I'm right there with you. It's tough, huh? But man, when you watch, which is terrible, I've never been able to watch a video to the end when it comes to abortion.
Starting point is 00:57:35 I can't, I can't. And so then that's what changed my mind. That's what changed my mind. If a woman has a miscarriage, you think there should be an investigation? No no that's a natural thing that happens but what if she like jumps on the ground and kills the baby because and then calls it a miscarriage if there was intent that's what all crimes are based upon intent like like if you intentionally tried to kill the baby you know then then the state would probably have some jurisdiction there but you know
Starting point is 00:58:03 how would they know unless they investigate it? But it's just like any other crime. How do you know unless you investigate? I mean. And they obviously just don't investigate. We're not talking about like. We're talking about precedent. We're not talking about creating an entire system with all these exceptions and everything.
Starting point is 00:58:17 We're talking about, we already have murder laws. We already have these laws and they're based upon intent. And basically saying that life begins at conception and so the state's duty is to protect that life well not all life you kill mosquitoes um but you're talking about yeah humans or people persons um and the argument is living tissue isn't necessarily a person so like a sperm isn't a person an egg isn't a person a sperm egg combo isn't necessarily a person until i in my opinion until it's thinking and has feelings and emotions and has a sense of self. Other than that, it's just like growing tissue.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Yeah, but with that, I agree. That's the argument of like when life begins, right? But, I mean, I have six children and a newborn is not very aware of themselves. Not when life begins. Life begins, sperm is alive. Eggs are alive. It's always living stuff. But whether or not it's a person, whether or not it's murder depends on if it's a person.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Because if you kill a cow, you're not murdering it. Well, conception is where the sperm and the egg come together and they begin to grow as a as a as one if you will and i believe that that's when life begins as far as i mean i get i i i get but i don't want to get into semantics you know yeah well i think life begin it's already it's always living well right like but it's not about killing life i don't think that's the argument to say you know personally i'm pro-life but i'm extremely skeptical of giving police officers more reasons to arrest people how would you handle it as as as a governor what would be a punishment like what would you do to to a woman well we already have murder laws right you know so that's but that's life that's that's a life
Starting point is 01:00:00 center no not always you know predominantly depending on the severity of the of the charge the degree there is there's third degree i think there's even fourth degree in some states right and and the laws you know the laws are there for as a deterrent right i mean you know uh there that's really what they're there for they're they're a deterrent. And so this would be a deterrent for people taking... The problem is if you don't enforce laws, no one takes them seriously, and it wouldn't just be a deterrent if you're enforcing it. Well, I think there's actually a much simpler breakdown of what happens. The end result is abortion clinics just cease to exist. Overall, the amount of abortions that happen will drop to a ridiculously low amount.
Starting point is 01:00:48 They'll still happen. The state probably won't be arresting and prosecuting doctors because they'll be done in secret. And there's a lot of problems with that the left brings up. But in reality, as much as the left wants to create the scenario where like the police show up and they're like, your doctor's been arrested. That probably will never happen. Extremely rare. Something that people need to understand is that people can go online and admit to committing serious crimes and post the evidence and the government still doesn't go after them. The reality to this life, to this country is that they do not want you in
Starting point is 01:01:22 jail. They, I mean, first of all, we all know what's going on with the woke left in these big cities, releasing people like crazy, but there's overcrowding. The courts don't want to deal with it. Look, I once got arrested for skateboarding and the judge was pissed. I show up for court and he puts his glasses on,
Starting point is 01:01:38 he looks at it and he's like, what? He's like, come on. My docket's full already and you get out of my courtroom. So what really happens with these laws is my my prediction on if they actually did criminalize abortion nationwide as as like a murder charge planned parenthood clinics would just cease to exist and it would
Starting point is 01:01:57 not be that big of an issue but you'd see miscarriages spike well i think i don't i don't think so i really don't think so oh yeah i think i think babies keep dying man that's the nature shift everyone's going to stop having sex like it's not a big deal it's going to be a very very different thing from the ground up just make one law and that'll change right i think people will realize it's it's it will have a massive impact i mean look at uh there are questions about when uh what can make culture shift for one the entirety of this this country just all of a sudden decided that the the marijuana laws didn't matter and people were just going about breaking the law making movies about how funny it was so i'm not convinced outright the culture would change but
Starting point is 01:02:35 planned parenthood and abortion clinics would cease to exist overnight if there was a nationwide ban yeah and of course many of the left and pro-choice they freak out about that idea that's a reality there will still be there it's not going to be back alleys with coat hangers it's going to be private underground facilities it'll be chemicals they'll mail stuff and the people will send stuff in the mail little pills you take it there's no trace of it there's gonna be a huge spike in miscarriages no there's not are they just gonna pretend like they're not doing secret abortions when they're having and what you misunderstand is come on a spike in miscarriages requires them to report the miscarriages are happening. Unreported stuff. So if you mean women, so miscarriages won't spike because women will be inducing abortion and not telling anybody.
Starting point is 01:03:15 So abortions will go down. Some abortions will remain. Miscarriages won't because women are not going to report their illegal abortions. How is that stopping the ethics of killing the baby? That doesn change one is the state's not paying for it and two is there is a law there in in place it is it's a moral thing as it stops elective abortion i mean it it stops the overwhelming majority of elective abortions i mean that's just a lot of that stuff is safer than taking pills and killing okay but hold on look look. You're getting me to argue for him now. To say that you don't think abortions or that miscarriages would spike is like, I mean,
Starting point is 01:03:51 think outside the box on this one. Let me walk you through this again. A woman who induces an abortion illegally would not report it, right? I don't know. I don't know how that works. So she would go to the cops and be like, I broke the law, arrest me? Well, is it known that she's pregnant? Do her neighbors know?
Starting point is 01:04:05 They're like, you know, she was pregnant a week ago. How would they know? Whisper, whisper. And then the government's like, we'll pay. You're making up scenarios. Also, guys, it's important to note here, Dave Portnoy is going to be really pissed if this goes through. And then number two, a lot of people will go to Canada and to Mexico, like a lot of Americans are already going for their health care as well. So that's another component.
Starting point is 01:04:30 So the interesting thing is, is on the other side of this, I want to completely deregulate the medical industry. Interesting. But why is abortion different? Because it's life. And if there was one thing that the state is supposed to do, it is Because it's life. And if there was one thing that the state is supposed to do, it is supposed to protect life. And so I lean very heavily
Starting point is 01:04:53 on the libertarian side. Absolutely. But not with abortion. I think there's an argument Ben Shapiro has made as well that if you're libertarian and you believe in very limited government, there is one thing that most people believe government should do, and it's protect life.
Starting point is 01:05:07 That's right. But then it's the war machine. Like, it's the killer. Government's main job is to protect life, but it's also to kill and to make murder legal so that they can kill. That's not something libertarians agree with. My point is making that— It's just the government's function. Libertarians are like, the government should protect life not not be actively taking it and most libertarians i think overwhelming majority are anti-war and don't want the u.s involved in the killing and
Starting point is 01:05:29 industrial military industrial complex i'm raising my hand for that i mean absolutely so like if the government's going to protect the life of a baby by destroying the life of a mother i just don't see the protection hold on hold on we got it we got to stop right there the point that i brought up that shape that i reiterated for Seamus is the mother will live and the baby will live or the baby dies and the mother will live. You see the issue? You're talking about like no abortion versus abortion? Right. In an abortion, someone dies, someone lives.
Starting point is 01:05:58 With no abortion, the mother suffers for an extended period, assuming the mother mother is suffering and then the baby is born but both live that's that's the moral argument that Seamus made to me I'm not saying I agree I think the idea that more life is better is kind of erroneous too because it's quality of life is super important yeah I guess so yeah but you don't take life just because you're not going to have good quality that's that's not justification to take I'll just I'll just shout out Seamus again he made a cartoon where there's a poor kid sitting on his bed and he's like malnourished and everything's grainy and gross. And Democrat man shows up and then he's like, help, Democrat man. I'm hungry and poor.
Starting point is 01:06:34 And he goes, I'll save you. And then disappears and then reappears instantly. And then he goes, what did you do? And he went, he goes, I went back 12 years to convince your mother to get an abortion. And the kid goes, what? No. And then just disappears. Like, it's an interesting point Seamus makes when, when, look, we hear a lot of really
Starting point is 01:06:52 stupid arguments from the left as to why abortion should be allowed. Like kids are poor. And I'm like, I'm pretty sure if you go to a poor kid and say you should be dead, they're going to be like, no, thank you. But I think there are real challenges here. And mine mainly stems from the government mandating someone's body be shared with another person because i don't see a moral way to resolve that i understand the point shame is made that i brought up several times so in in without running in circles again let's jump to the next story because
Starting point is 01:07:18 this is not something we can solve good conversation yeah but it's good and it is really difficult but let's jump to this story because it's the apocalypse, my friends. The BBC prepares secret scripts for possible use in winter blackouts. Wonderful. Scripts set out how corporation will reassure public in event of major power loss. Well, if you live in a city as dense as London and there's no power, good luck. I don't know what they would do. That's a massively dense city with no energy.
Starting point is 01:07:50 How long until the water stops flowing? How long until there's no food, everything spoils? In the dead of winter, especially when you can't heat your pipes, the water is going to, of course, create so much damage all throughout the city center. It's absolutely mind-boggling to understand how fragile our current civilization is and what kind of a big mess our politicians are getting us into deliberately we have to understand these are not policies that were just accidentally created these were policies that were fomented that were built that were tested on other societies and are being introduced right now all under the umbrella of the great reset all under the umbrella of taking care of the environment meanwhile they are deliberately limiting energy to people so they could limit human potential.
Starting point is 01:08:27 This is all a deliberate plan, and people have to really stand up for themselves because if they don't, the mess is extremely serious. It's already going to hit everyone very, very hard very soon. I just want to, you know, I point this out whenever we talk about blackouts, but diabetics are at serious risk because insulin needs to be refrigerated.
Starting point is 01:08:44 If power goes out this is this is seriously bad for people who are diabetic you know they're going to lose their lives um now if it's in winter i don't know how cold it gets in london perhaps it will be cold enough outside where they can get a cooler maybe they can take snow or something and they can yeah they can they can keep their medicine um uh their insulin at the right temperature. But even outside of that, in the winter when you can't heat your homes, food's going to spoil. I suppose, though, in winter, you put the food outside, it won't be as bad. But then you have hotter summers over here in London now. I wonder, though, is the reason they're concerned about blackouts is because of heating your home.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Is that the principal consumption of energy? Because they don't have air conditioning in london it's terrible it reeks of like this environmentalist again this global environmentalist uh i don't know uh conspiracy almost but i don't what's like what's behind it like why are they saying that there's going to be blackouts uh war i mean it's a secret script right uh yeah possible but is it is it war is it um well it's a secret script, right? Yeah. But is it war? Is it because... Lack of energy. Yeah, so with the war in Russia,
Starting point is 01:09:51 Nord Stream, they just posted video from the Nord Stream attack. It's an attack now at this point. 165 feet of the pipeline was blown off and is missing. That is not an accident. That is a huge chunk. That's massive. What is that, 165 feet? Is that half a football field? Yeah. I don not an accident. That is a huge chunk. That's massive.
Starting point is 01:10:05 What is that? 165 feet? Is that half a football field? Yeah. More than half, yeah. More than half. So it's 300 feet, right? 100 yards? Yeah, like 70, 60 feet. No, no, no. It's less than half. What did you say? 165. Okay. More than half. Half a football field. And was it only one spot?
Starting point is 01:10:21 I thought it was a couple different spots. Maybe the hits were in different spots and then caused it to fall off or whatever they know what they hit it with no well we don't i mean they wonder if they lined it with nano thermite melted it off we know you did this we know you did this why would putin blow up his own pipeline yeah it makes no sense so they cut off uh the flow into Europe. Russia does. Russia starts. Now we've got this report. I've only seen it from South African sources, but you were mentioning this, Serge,
Starting point is 01:10:57 that Saudi Arabia wants to join BRICS. What's that? Ramaphosa? Ramaphosa? Ramaphosa. Ramaphosa. He's the current president. So you saw that story.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Is that true? My family chat had it going on in the WhatsApp forever ago. That he's saying Saudi Arabia wants to join BRICS. Yes. Like in the recent past. Yes. So apparently he posted on social media saying this is going to happen. And if that happens, that is apocalyptic. Already, the Saudis are cutting oil production.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Russia is a part of OPEC+. This means that they're going to keep being able to sell gas at a premium it's going to sell to china china's going to sell to europe europe is getting strangled out come winter we already saw the videos of italy of cafes in italy candlelight cash transactions sorry when remember when uh texas got so cold that it and the because of the energy or the power went out and all of that that happened in texas i mean that's texas we're talking about london here we're talking about a lot colder and the mayhem that it caused in texas was you know they're still they're still recovering from that
Starting point is 01:11:56 is the war worth it well it's not just the war ukraine worth it's not just it's not just the war it's a lot of you know the policies that they've been laying forward that has been deliberately denying people energy. And this is not a problem that's only going to be around for the next few months. This is a problem that's going to be around for the next few years. The Telegraph is reporting that the National Grid warns of a three-year energy crisis as a national emergency. It is something that they cannot get away from. They just started to announce
Starting point is 01:12:26 that they're going to be fracking inside of the United Kingdom. But energy is key to human success, to human prosperity. And again, there is an agenda to limit that specifically. In Ukraine right now, one third of the power stations
Starting point is 01:12:40 have been destroyed as the World Health Organization is, of course, warning about a brutal winter ahead. There's going to be a lot of ramifications because of the foreign policy, because of the domestic policy that has led us to this age where we're literally going back to the Stone Age. Why are we doing this? Well, all in the name of helping the environment. And it's not helping the environment. It's not helping anyone. We're just literally buying, you know, passed over gas from Russia to China that they're just shipping to Europe right now,
Starting point is 01:13:09 which is only making sure that people lose more of their money and can't afford to even live and afford a basic lifestyle. So let me ask you, Ammon, you guys, you've been ranching for a long time. You've got animals. Do you have more than cattle? You've probably got... Yeah, but, you know, of course, horses and chickens and that.
Starting point is 01:13:26 But mostly, you know, cattle is where we make our money off of. If the apocalypse happened right now, would your family be all right? Yeah, we'd be fine. Totally fine? Yeah. Would you even notice? Like, I mean, obviously you notice in the news, but like, would it impact your daily food consumption?
Starting point is 01:13:41 I mean, Amazon wouldn't show up, you know and so there'd be that of course we would be affected but we would have food you know we'd have supplies but what do you do about toilet paper that's why everybody lost their minds and started fighting in this in supermarkets nice smooth rock or a leaf like a big leaf or something like that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, but in all seriousness, I ask because it's funny. I mean, I think people in London would start eating each other within a few days. I'm okay realistically within like a week or so.
Starting point is 01:14:14 So we might just look at London, what's going on over there. Well, in Idaho, good old conservative Idaho, there's the Democrats there, along with the several several establishment republicans they're trying to remove five dams uh hydropower that's a primary uh source of energy trying to get rid of that trying to get rid of them why for the salmon they believe the salmon's got a but this is green energy this is exactly what they wanted none of them make sense well it makes sense if you if their goal is to get rid of people and to reduce population that's the only way it makes sense right i said it many many times
Starting point is 01:14:49 you're exactly right everything they do look the conspiracy theory as i mentioned would be the intent to reduce population we know bill gates has given speeches on reducing population growth so we know he's he's concerned about there being too many people. If you look at everything they do, take intent out of it, don't think conspiracy, just say, hey, all those things result in less people. That's exactly right. Telling the Netherlands to stop farming when there's a food shortage looming, shutting down power plants when there's an energy crisis. Telling Sri Lanka to get rid of fertilizers.
Starting point is 01:15:22 That's exactly right. That's why I say it stinks of that globalist environmental movement and it's a depopulation agenda. This is the problem with global environmentalism is they want to stop oil production because it's dirty. So then we run out of electricity. People get desperate. They go to war.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Nuclear bombs go off, create a nuclear winter with three years of no sunlight. All the farms go dead. Talk about destroying the environment environmentalists nuclear war is the worst thing for the environment that could possibly happen right now no next to an asteroid but peace is dangerous peace is dangerous didn't you see at some point you just got to burn the coal and then recapture the carbon well i i gotta correct you in they're not just trying to get rid of oil they're just buying it from saudi arabia instead
Starting point is 01:16:01 of domestically exploring and and and getting it out of the ground here and importing it. Or they're doing it from China, just like they're doing in Europe. And that confirms the South African president, Cyril Ramaphosa, did say, this is from seven hours ago, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia did express Saudi Arabia's desire to be part of BRICS. That's apocalyptic. That's from en.trend.az.
Starting point is 01:16:22 And then I also saw that BRICS expects Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey to join the group. So what would that be then? Egypt, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia? Yeah, they need a new... It'll be BRICS+. Let's just stop with the letters. But I mean, Turkey is Russia's outlet into the Mediterranean. So that makes sense there.
Starting point is 01:16:41 Egypt. No, NATO. Saudi Arabia. It's just Turkey. They're protecting the Suez Canal. They want that trade route into the Mediterranean. So where is the first nuke land?
Starting point is 01:16:49 Because I'm chilling, you know. I don't think it'll happen, but it'll be an airburst if it did. Well, yeah, I know, of course, but like over what city? Kharkiv? No, think false flag first. Not Kiev. Absolutely not. Why not Kiev, though? Too much civilian population. I know, it's shocking off. Yeah, but that's a lot of death on your hands. absolutely not i i think why not kiev though um too much civilian population i know shock and awe
Starting point is 01:17:05 yeah but that's that's that's a lot of death on your hands it would destroy the entire population there's a lot of military uh equipment and a lot of uh military infrastructure in kharkiv isn't kiev and kharkiv are like historically important to the russian the russian people is there not a thing yeah there's a lot thing? Yeah, there's a lot of history there, yes. There's a lot of blood there. There's a lot of suffering there. Wasn't Kiev the capital of Russia like hundreds of years ago or something? That's what I was asking about.
Starting point is 01:17:32 Kievan Rus'. Yeah. I think so. There you go. Kievan Rus'. But I don't think, I think Putin wants the Donbass region to connect to Crimea.
Starting point is 01:17:40 He wants to control more of the Black Sea. Yeah, of course. So. Well, yeah, I don't think he wants a destruction of the world. That's for sure. No, who does? We live here.
Starting point is 01:17:48 Right. You know, that's why I always find supervillains funny. It's like, I'm going to destroy the planet. It's like, you live here, dude. We need Zelensky. I think another possibility is that he might just go to the Black Sea and just explode something there as a show of force, as a show of power. I think that's also one possibility, just to be like, look what I could do.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Let me, let's negotiate. So again, lots of negotiations, lots of, you know, it's a big chess game geopolitically that's unfolding right now. But I don't see Kiev. I see a major key piece of the war machine being affected here.
Starting point is 01:18:20 And I think also, as you mentioned before, there's a big possibility of a false flag attack since, of course, there's even U.S.-made nuclear weapons that have gone missing. So there's also a lot of Russian-made nuclear weapons that were disappeared and are missing. So there's big potential here for someone, a bad actor, to come in and to create a lot of chaos that they would benefit off of. What if he nukes, like just sends like a hundred nukes right into Antarctica?
Starting point is 01:18:46 Just like... Mars. The Martian... Well, no, the thing about Antarctica is that the ice is all on a landmass so that it actually would raise ocean levels
Starting point is 01:18:55 if the ice broke off and went into the water. What if he just went like full comic book villain was like, you know, I'm not going to lose so I won't nuke you.
Starting point is 01:19:02 I'll nuke Antarctica! And then, shouldn't they be like, oh no! And there's no defensive capabilities there so, you know, what'm not going to lose, so I won't nuke you. I'll nuke Antarctica. And then they're like, oh, no. And there's no defensive capabilities there. So, you know, what do you do? I mean, it is kind of silly, but there's things like that. You got to think outside the box.
Starting point is 01:19:13 He could say, OK, I won't nuke you. You can't retaliate against me, but I can hit the ice caps. Dude, I watched the nuclear winter. You got to watch a video on nuclear winter because what happens is. Oh, yeah. The nukes go off black clouds over the everything for three years and then it just covers the entire planet yeah and the radiation is there for hundreds of thousands of years the plants all die yeah it's like unless they plan on going underground with canned food for three years and then coming back up and being the ruler of a dead
Starting point is 01:19:36 planet i don't understand the methodology bro raven rock like i look i wouldn't be surprised if they have underground farms oh yeah probably they do absolutely yeah um i think we need to appeal to zelinski right now because he's the guy that will listen to the american like he's a he's an actor he's an entertainer he likes being loved he's i don't think he's a horrible guy like at first i wanted to hate him because of his but like the position he's in come on he's a puppet president but like at the same time it's it's it's in his lap if he wants to negotiate with put Putin right now, he isn't. The only person on earth that can make this happen is Volodymyr Zelensky.
Starting point is 01:20:09 I disagree. Who else could start the negotiations, though? Because it's up to him and Putin. The United States and NATO. You could say that Biden and Putin could do it. Today, also, the European Union passed a law that allows Ukrainian soldiers to be trained in Europe. And they will be trained specifically in Poland and in Germany. And again, a lot of people don't realize this proxy conflict could last a very long time.
Starting point is 01:20:31 It could last 10 years. It could last 20 years. When we look at these kind of sectarian conflicts with the borders so close to each other, they escalate very quickly, they de-escalate very slowly, and the conflict is always going to be there. So this is something that's going to be a hotbed for a lot of trouble for the future. So, you know, again, negotiations, peace deals, being able to come together, no one is going to be fully happy, but I think we should still push for them to come together. But the United States, NATO has to be a part of
Starting point is 01:21:05 those conversations because they're the ones fueling this war. They're the ones financing this war. They're the ones making this war possible. And that's why they need to be at the table. They need to negotiate. Because if Zelensky went off on his own and was like, I'm going to negotiate, you think NATO would have him removed from power? Well, they were very close to having negotiations. They were very close to Zelensky and Putin even coming together. They had a meeting. They had a date that the two people were supposed to come together. And then Western leaders came to Zelensky and said, no, you're not going to meet with Putin.
Starting point is 01:21:34 No, you're not going to negotiate with him. No, you're not going to have any kind of peace deals here. And Zelensky said, okay. Here's what I think would happen. If Zelensky came out right now and gave a speech and he said, I'm going to meet with Vladimir Putin to negotiate an end to this conflict for the sake of preserving the world and preventing World War
Starting point is 01:21:52 III, half an hour would go by and CNN would go, breaking news, Zelensky was killed in a car bomb. It was Putin who did it, exploiting the fact that he was trying to negotiate peace, showing just how evil he really was. The new second- command, vice president's taken over, is even more war hawkish.
Starting point is 01:22:09 And then it's going to cut to a guy who's going to be like, I love America. And that's, there you go. That's my prediction. Or they could just use the CGI hologram version of him. You know, there's a lot of different possibilities, but there's a lot of psyops. There's a lot of disinformation.
Starting point is 01:22:21 There's a lot of propaganda. But at the end of the day, there's a lot of life loss. A lot of innocent people are getting screwed over or getting hurt. We need to stop that immediately. And sadly, all we have are neocon, warmongering, bloodthirsty war hawks who are saying more war, more death, more destruction. That to me is absolutely insane and stupid and literally is risking the existence of our civilization. Why? What's the end goal?
Starting point is 01:22:43 What's the objective? We don't have any of that. Is it really risking the civilization? Absolutely. When they've got underground bunkers like Raven Rock
Starting point is 01:22:50 and Mount Weather and that's just the ones we know about? Okay, sorry. The benefit of the 0.001% and their secret bunkers. No, exactly. The people who have
Starting point is 01:22:58 their finger on the button are like, I don't care what happens. I'll be fine. It'd be a new civilization. Our civilization would be dramatically... They're going to live in a space station. I'm going to live in a big space station underground. I don't worry about it.'ll be fine it'd be a new civilization our civilization would be there's a space station i'm gonna live in a big space station underground i used to i have a
Starting point is 01:23:09 friend zach rauta who who says uh that civilization is the fall of this civilization is fall humanity i'm like no no it's this one particular he would say that civilization is the downfall of humanity what we've done and i'm thinking it's this civilization that's on the back of oil that's obsessed with like non-reproducible energy sources and, and food consumption. That is that's causing it. Yeah. Cause I think if we lived in harmony with nature,
Starting point is 01:23:30 if we were getting energy out of the vacuum that we could subsist, if we were like, you know, creating life and then consuming that as opposed to just eating what's already there. So you're talking about finding a way to harness zero point energy. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Like the vibration of the vacuum and stuff like that. But I don't know enough about it, but I've read a bit about it. And I think it's interesting. I mean, fusion is going to be huge. But I'm not convinced that there are some people who have argued that fossil fuels, they're not necessarily as fun as we think and that they're constantly in a state of production. It's not dinosaurs. It's algae that gets compressed. And they've actually synthesized petroleum this way that's so cool
Starting point is 01:24:08 but i don't have it but i think i think the real issue for these people clearly is energy dense resources like petroleum results in more human beings and too many human beings means you lose control of the system right and if everybody had their own energy source, then you'd have even more exponential growth of humans, which could become an even bigger problem. Now imagine how much prosperous humanity would be if we had free energy. We would need to make moves fast, because if we get too many people on Earth
Starting point is 01:24:36 with unlimited energy, they'll blow each other up. I mean, if we have free energy, we could just make space stations and leave and go colonize the universe. If we don't have the technology to produce food and water out of the vacuum, then the energy is useless it's just going to make people get hot and blow people up it's all about just converting into the i mean everything is just energy you got to convert it and mash things together and structure it properly
Starting point is 01:24:56 it's it's still sci-fi doesn't mean it's not going to happen but our civilization is on the back of like a non-renewable resource that it needs to seek out and mine like you're saying they want mining rights because they want those non-renewables and uh and that would end with a nuclear war that's renewable an energy source well like hydroelectricity so aren't there components in hydroelectric dams that have to be replaced and repaired yeah renewable is it doesn't mean that it lasts forever all 100 so we're still gonna have to mine and search for minerals to make those energy sources work. Yeah, you probably have like 1,000th of the mining would be... If you had stuff like that or like tidal power. Like the amount...
Starting point is 01:25:32 I think you're making a lot of assumptions here. You don't know. Yeah, I'm just picking up a number. I mean, the amount of replacing... You're using your propaganda terms. Right. Wind turbines, for instance, require a ton of oil. To make.
Starting point is 01:25:43 To run. Yeah, they don't... Lubricants don't they lubricants they cost more than than the power would cost i don't know much about wind turbines have an extremely low energy return on energy invested it's like 0.4 i mean it i think it it might be above one but it might be like 1.4 whereas like petroleum is like 30 and nuclear power is like 50 so that that means for every for every calorie you put it you put you put in an investment you get x output nuclear is the best i believe fusion is pretty regenerative and fusion is i think the absolute best we have so far but petroleum is just it's massive it's easy to get i think i think if the government was had been out of the way for
Starting point is 01:26:21 the last 30 years when it come to energy, meaning stop subsidizing, stop regulating, stop controlling, that we would have already found a much better way to create energy. But because of the government's regulations, controls, I mean, nuclear energy is about as efficient as you're going to get as far as what we have developed in technology today. But the governments won't let us use it on the scale that we should be using it. Too many people. It's dangerous, right?
Starting point is 01:26:51 But if the government was out of the way and there was deregulation, if you will, and I know that's a scary word for a lot of people, and they were not subsidizing, I believe we would have a lot of answers already when it comes to energy. Yeah, I think so too. I think it's intentionally controlling the the output the valve because they don't want too many people yeah bingo you you if if nuclear energy was the norm the energy return is higher than petroleum so you you look at that map another map the chart showing population and then petroleum skyrockets within the span of like one generation
Starting point is 01:27:26 it's insane we went from having around 500 million people on this planet for hundreds of years to billions and it's because of technology the machinery for plants make you know for farming as well as the easy access easy access of energy we upgrade from petroleum to nuclear which is an even better return and it's going to be another exponential massive increase. And I'm all for it. Just build spaceships and let's go send those spaceships out. You know, put a bunch of people on them and bye-bye. I think in Idaho, we're like every person, and don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure I'm pretty close.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Every person in Idaho can have like 22 acres to themselves. You know, not that we want that, that people would come to Idaho, but yeah, please don't. Yeah. But please don't, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:10 and Nevada is even Nevada is like 88 acres or something like that. Well, the interesting thing is we're, we're terraforming Vegas because here's how it works. Vegas is a desert. People fly there. And when those planes come, it brings water and human waste from other cities.
Starting point is 01:28:27 And then people land and they, you know, take their dumps and their beeps in Vegas. All of that stays there. So we're bringing massive amounts of moisture in our own waste. Fertilizer. Right. I don't know about human fertilizer. I don't think they've met. But it is creating, it is bringing moisture.
Starting point is 01:28:44 Then also when they ship food in to feed all these people that creates more moisture so now i was reading how there's clouds and there's grass growing they brought in grass for houses because people like it that's retaining moisture we're basically it's a man-made man-made terraforming of of uh the desert yeah it's crazy yeah lake me Mead, it's drying up quick. But they're going to keep shipping the water in. They're not going to let it collapse. It's crazy. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:29:13 It makes you wonder what they're going to do. So my dad's ranch is like 20 miles. Well, it was 20 miles just north of Lake Mead, the very tip of Lake Mead. And now it's like 35 miles so wow do you know that that old city that reappeared what it was called st thomas yes yeah i went there under the under the lake lake mead yeah and then when it dried up all of a sudden the foundations and everything appeared and people started going out and taking pictures of it stuff
Starting point is 01:29:42 i got to go there and they found all those dead bodies from the mafia. Really? Yeah, they found a whole bunch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whoa! That they thought would never show up again. It makes sense because they were out of Vegas for so long. That's right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:52 It's crazy walking through the desert because there's like plants everywhere and you can't tell, but there's boat parts because people were, you know, you just sink to the bottom. Right. And now it's all dried up.
Starting point is 01:30:02 And like it came back for a while, but it's what? It's down, way down again. It's way down way down it's down further it came up a little bit and then went way down it's all that global warming you know bringing the end of the end is not a lot of that's going to california not just vegas yeah they're wiping a lot of it to southern california oh the lake mead water i think the bulk of it is actually going to California. It is. Interesting. Water rights. That's the guy who, was it Michael Burry? The guy who, the big short.
Starting point is 01:30:30 I don't know if you saw that movie where he said, hey, the 2008 housing crisis is coming. He was the one that figured it out. He says water is the next big investment. I remember him, yeah. So he's investing in food transport and stuff like that but again if we if we would get the government out of the way we would figure out a way to you know to re renew water because moisture doesn't leave the atmosphere i mean it doesn't uh so you just it just goes different places and it has to be used in a different way or benefited in a different way.
Starting point is 01:31:05 So we would find ways to either get the salt out of the ocean or whatever it might be. Yeah, desalinate. I'm concerned with getting the government out of the way completely because of Nestle buying up water rights and land, like corporations becoming the new government if we don't have antitrust. Well, that's what California is. Basically, the reason all that water is being taken up in California is for almonds, number one, and then also a lot of the other water being bottled up in Nestle, which is a smaller
Starting point is 01:31:28 portion of it, but still significant. The government protects Nestle and allows them to do that. Correct. This government. Correct. Yeah. Well, so, yeah. And the other, you know, like, not to build on that too much, because it'd be boring to
Starting point is 01:31:40 talk about, but like the courts are where, like, if someone's rights are violated, we need the courts to go to and try to work it out. But what we don't need is the government going in and doing all these preventive laws that actually make it so that we can't waste into the rivers or whatever they might be doing, then the courts are there for the people to say, look, we're going to take Nestle to court. We're going to sue them and stop them from this. But for the government to come in and like say, we're going to regulate and control the entire process so no one benefits. I think that's where we've gone wrong. We're going to go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, hit the notification bell,
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Starting point is 01:33:12 Neglectful Sausage says, step one, claim abortion as murder. Step two, continue to pay IRS government to fund it. Step three, don't try to criminalize it. Step four, cowardice complete. I don't know if step four works, but I get the point you're trying to make. All right, Kalishnikov says, the Dems are only just now switching parties because for most people, they got a burn to learn.
Starting point is 01:33:34 The blue pill is the reddest pill. Yeah, a lot of people voted for Biden because they weren't paying attention. But now you guys see that video of them booing Jill Biden at the, it was the Eagles game, I think. No, no, I didn't hear the boos. I just saw a clip. I saw the picture.
Starting point is 01:33:48 It was crazy. They were booing and yelling F Joe Biden. And Jill's just like singing along. And like she's from just outside of Philly, I guess. So this is deep blue Philly booing Biden. It's going to be crazy in the next couple of weeks, man. What are we like 20 days out or something like that? Is it 20 days? 21 days. He's got to take responsibility.
Starting point is 01:34:09 We're going to have a big party on election night. It's other people's fault. It's their fault. That's the reason it's bad. It's over there. Just take some responsibility, I think, to win the hearts of the people back. But I don't know if you can at this point. And beef liver, Tim. You want to get a bunch of beef liver? Damn right. Why beef liver? What about foie gras?
Starting point is 01:34:23 Why beef liver? I've been screaming about this for like ever. It's like the healthiest organ you can ever eat. This guy was on this show talking about how we got to get rid of the seed oils and was eating a Big Mac. I don't know what you're talking about. That is blasphemous. Mr. Mayonnaise, sucking down high fructose corn syrup seed oil drinker, you. This is actually funny because I was like, Luke, mayonnaise doesn't have sugar in it.
Starting point is 01:34:44 And I was screaming. I was like, yes, it does. You mayonnaise eater. But the mayonnaise that I was like, Luke, mayonnaise doesn't have sugar in it. And I was screaming. I was like, yes it does, you mayonnaise eater. But the mayonnaise that I normally buy from the store, there's no sugar in it.
Starting point is 01:34:49 But then we were at Sheetz and I had a packet of mayonnaise and I looked at it and it had corn syrup in it. And I was like, what? Why is there corn syrup in my mayonnaise?
Starting point is 01:34:57 It's disgusting. And it's in ketchup and it's in bread. It's everywhere. Literally everywhere. There's a reason. We were at the supermarket. I was screaming
Starting point is 01:35:05 At the top of my lungs Inside of the supermarket You have to I believe it That's the way to do it Well so we went to mom's And Luke was talking As loud as possible
Starting point is 01:35:12 To make sure everyone Could hear him Talk about Absolutely He was like Why is there seed oils In this one He's like looking around
Starting point is 01:35:18 To make sure everybody's hearing him You know they've renamed High fructose corn syrup There's a depopulation agenda Men of course sterilize you Look out for glucose fructose As an ingredient Because that's what they're calling High fructose corn syrup. There's a depopulation agenda. Men, of course, sterilize you. Look out for glucose fructose as an ingredient because that's what they're calling
Starting point is 01:35:29 high fructose corn syrup. Yeah, they're renaming it. Yeah, it's a rebrand. It's a rebrand. All right. Let's grab some super chats. John Hay says, Tim, I make miniature cameras
Starting point is 01:35:39 for a private investigation firm. These things would be great for journalists who want to pitch in for a change. Interested. What's your company? How do you find them?
Starting point is 01:35:48 Maybe it's something Project Veritas could be into, you know? Oh, yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. All right. What do we got here? I Am says, Ye did an interview with Kanye West. Did an interview with Chris Cuomo last night while he was on the way to meet the CEO of Parler. Millennial influencers are making cultural moves. That's cool'm glad you know good for for kanye i do think it's funny that kanye
Starting point is 01:36:09 says this stuff about like a jewish mafia and i'm just like you know okay kanye but now there's memes of kanye elon and trump together and i'm like do people realize that kanye doing this is bad for republicans because he's saying these things about Jewish people that people don't like. You know what I mean? I do think it's fair to point out, though, I don't know what Kanye's trying to say. If he thinks there's like a secret conspiracy, he's wrong. But look, there's an Italian mafia.
Starting point is 01:36:36 Like, that's the thing that they refer to, like the mob. It's Italian. If you point out that there's a, like, if there's an organization of 50 people and they're Jewish, would you not call them the Jewish mafia? You know what I mean? You know, I think a problem Kanye is making is saying because his great ancestors were Jewish, this is the argument, that he's allowed to say inflammatory things about them. Like, it's not a justification to be cruel or to be raw, to say, like, erratic. And, you know, you got to, it doesn't matter who your ancestors were.
Starting point is 01:37:04 You got to take responsibility for yourself. Yeah, you can't make gross generalizations. Be specific, you know you gotta it doesn't matter who your ancestors were you gotta take responsibility for yourself yeah you can't make gross generalizations be specific you know all right grofty says oh my word buck buck the best episode number eight i have not laughed at media like that in a long time being inundated with views resolution dropped some but not choppy surge thumbs up so that's a reference to cast castle episode 8 which um uh was directed by blair white uh so direct all your complaints to blair no i'm kidding uh but blair was involved and uh helped with a lot of the jokes they're really funny and what we're trying to do what we want to do with cast castle is basically it's a hybrid of comedy and commentary.
Starting point is 01:37:45 So we can mock what the modern goings on in our own way. You know, you get the point. So that's why we did the Cast Castle Civil War arc with like the election where Ian's running for union president. And then this one, I'm gonna give you the quick gist of the trailer for the episode is really simply,
Starting point is 01:38:08 someone is worried they're going to be fired for harassment. And so they adopt identities which prevent them from being fired. And then, you know, you should watch it. Rusty Cage is in it and it is patently absurd. Yeah. So I think it did go up. It went up a little late today, but it is what it is. We're really excited to get Blair involved as well.
Starting point is 01:38:26 That was so awesome. Thank you, Blair, for coming out and Rusty. All right. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, no spoilers, but that cat fight got me good. I also enjoy when someone pushes an Oreo into my mouth. Luke milkers are bigger than ever imagined.
Starting point is 01:38:41 So definitely become a member and watch the latest episode of Cast Castle because we're going to get media matters ready, as I imagine. Because we had good fun. I was there for the filming of it, but I haven't actually watched the full thing. That's good. I watched it before. Yeah. Worth it.
Starting point is 01:38:55 Oh, man. I'm nervous. All right. Sean says, yay is the next target of the Alex Jones precedent. The left and Dems have weaponized the court system to silence dissentent this will never be used against them only the right will suffer from this sounds about right well there's one simple solution just do and say whatever the left tells you and you have to worry about it right just bend the knee and be subservient and what have you got to lose after that apparently nothing because you'll owe nothing but you'll be happy so they say whatever they say is happy yep all right unashamed truth says i want to know amman how can idahoans
Starting point is 01:39:31 save idaho oh man that's a loaded question yeah it kind of is tough huh yeah i want to put an answer to someone that grew up in ada county for a long period of my life it's important for me so let's hear your answer is it true there's lots of potatoes in Idaho? Yeah. Yeah, it is true. There's lots of other crops too. Agriculture is the number one industry in Idaho. Yeah, for sure, by far. Which is awesome.
Starting point is 01:39:52 But is it just a stereotype from the commercials? Idaho's like- Mostly, yeah. I mean, we definitely produce a lot of potatoes, but we're not the number one producer, I don't even think, in the United States. Probably California, right? We do a lot of wheat. I don't know who is, but I heard that the number one producer, I don't even think, in the United States. Probably California, right? We do a lot of wheat.
Starting point is 01:40:06 I don't know who he is, but I heard that the other day, so I don't know how true that is. The thing that's funny is we don't even eat all the potatoes that we grow in Idaho. Most of them are shipped out, so all the potatoes we get in Idaho are not from Idaho in the first place. Yeah. I grew potatoes in my garden this year. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:40:20 It turned out that we grow a lot of corn, a lot of wheat. So back to the question um well uh we've we've kind of addressed the federal land issues that we have federal land control right and we can't even pay our own bills unless we get that strained out but but really it comes down to the left again invading idaho like coming in, completely changing our culture, changing our laws, all of that. That's what they're trying to do in Idaho. That's what they are doing. They're actually being successful at it. And so, you know, if there was one thing that I think would get the liberals to leave is end the welfares, end the welfare in Idaho. They'll be going to
Starting point is 01:41:03 these other states and, you know, getting on welfare there rather than coming here because we know what is happening. They're coming here, getting on welfare, and then they're like almost full-time active and trying to turn our state upside down. So, you know, but. All right. So that's one thing. Looks like Idaho is the leading potato producer. Oh, there you go. 2021 from Statista.com followed by washington and wisconsin all right william now i know william trash says i'm a corporate attorney generally compensatory damages are not taxed as income but psychological emotional defamation and similar damages are interesting and well there
Starting point is 01:41:42 you go lawyers like how hurt were you more hurt you were more you were probably really on a scale of nine to ten what's your pain level and say ten all right and you're paying and you rowland says tim in response to you saying republicans will do nothing i rather i'd rather have a government that does nothing than a government that does everything to take away rights agreed absolutely absolutely amen beep boop says breaking news Seamus seen floating into the sky sign of the rapture you know that did happen is that where Seamus went you know he was on the show one day and the next day I saw him naked and just floating into the sky I thought he was going to Mars and maybe he did there you go he seems more like a Uranus type of person yeah
Starting point is 01:42:21 he does just my own personal gas giants let's see what we got roscoe says we shouldn't trust anyone switching sides to republican it's like the dude that got in the woman's lifeboat on the titanic no i completely disagree take the wins take what you can get and trust but verify you know if someone like a lot of people are ragging on tulsi because she endorsed biden but now she's come out, she's endorsed Carrie Lake and Don Bolduc. And I'm like, take it. There are going to be independents who come with Tulsi and give you votes. You will gain power from this.
Starting point is 01:42:54 You will get political power from this. So it's a good thing. There you go. Whatever. Let's see what we got here. Darun Albain says, we need loser pays laws to stop lawfare. I agree.
Starting point is 01:43:10 Loser pays? Like the loser pays. Oh, so if someone sues and they lose, they have to pay? I mean, that's basically how it goes. You sue for damages and you have to pay, they have to pay, or you sue for court costs.
Starting point is 01:43:22 You know. It's already like that, yeah. Yeah. Emily Payton says, goats are better than cows hands down yeah we were thinking about getting a cow but we were told they produce like eight to ten gallons of milk per day is that true well yeah if you have a like a holstein or something you don't have to they don't have to be producing milk is that what you were going to get them for those for them yeah like you know not to kill and eat but to have milk on hand. Yeah, if you're going to have a milk cow, yeah, they could produce up to 12 gallons a day.
Starting point is 01:43:48 Yeah. 12. Yeah. If they're, like, without GMO, without any kind of, like, injections. We need a cow. I don't know, like, what the organics. I should know. It's probably a little less, but they still produce a lot of milk. So what do you think? Goats or cows? What do you got?
Starting point is 01:44:03 Goats will do, like, you know, probably a gallon, gallon and a half. Wow. A gallon a day? With a good, yeah. And it's fattier.
Starting point is 01:44:12 You'll milk them twice a day. Sometimes three times a day. Yeah, depending. And so they'll, yeah, they'll produce probably a gallon and a half a day. Do you have a preference,
Starting point is 01:44:20 cow or goat? Well, goat, cows have three stomachs, so their milk is very even. And it's, that's why we use cows for milk goats don't so like if they eat a weed or something like that and it has a you know so you i it can be really really good and it's really good for you like babies who are lactose intolerant can usually handle goat's milk and uh so it's really good
Starting point is 01:44:43 for you so yeah go for goats. That's awesome. And I heard that they're fattier. So if you want to make cheese and stuff, goat is better. Goats, you know, and there's certain like a Jersey will produce more,
Starting point is 01:44:57 in cows, they'll produce more cream than like a Holstein. But goats are great. But there's like smaller cows right they don't produce as much uh yeah i mean get a nice little small jersey that's great yeah but you know as people are like get goats and i'm like yeah because you get you know one goat and like you said that the people are advising maybe get two dwarf goats or whatever but like cows are funny
Starting point is 01:45:22 you know they stand there all day like whenever i drive past cows are just standing they're not doing anything is that all they do they just stand there yeah well i mean you know it's funny they just eat all day yeah i find it entertaining so we have a chicken city i don't know if you saw i saw that yeah that's there there i was reading on wikipedia it said humans find their behavior entertaining and i was like this is verified confirmed so if you were gonna advise a budding rancher what would be the first ranch animal or or group of them animals that they should focus on well i mean it if you're doing it for food or you're doing it for money that's that's what okay that's a good that's the first thing you got to do for surviving
Starting point is 01:45:59 the apocalypse yeah for surviving well so uh actually rabbits will produce more meat in a year's period of time than two rabbits uh you know male and a female rabbit will a buck and a doe will produce more meat than a bull and a cow uh bovine in one year and they're much easier to take care of but you don't get enough fat from rabbits you got to eat the marrow actually yeah that's true that's true so you got to have you got to go kill like a walrus or something or a whale and then get lots of fat from it. Is there like a pig maybe? Could you supplement the rabbit meat with like a fattier meat,
Starting point is 01:46:38 like a pig or something? Yeah, pork. Yeah, pigs are like, you know, they got skin like humans almost so they're like susceptible to like cold and heat and you know you really gotta that take care of them they they're labor intensive and if you if you i hear if you faint or fall in the pig pigs die they'll eat you oh yeah probably yeah so so like get it yeah get it uh if I was to do it, I would get, you know, chickens. I would have goats and I would still have cows. I'd still have, you know, and then just have them where they can reproduce.
Starting point is 01:47:14 And that's a pretty good start. You know why chickens are funny? They're smart enough not to drink water they crap in, but not smart enough not to crap in their water. And that's, you know so we get we we when we first got the chickens we noticed this and someone sent us one of the the the water chicken water bins where it's got the little nozzles they can pack and i'm like it basically solved the problem but man they just crap where they stand you know and it's just everywhere so if you don't
Starting point is 01:47:41 like have it where they can drink water without crapping it they'll just thirst to death yeah they stopped drinking it yeah so i mean this is what was happening to us it was annoying i'm like well why did you even that we have we have the brooders and the water setup is very difficult for them to crap in they still figured how to do it and the weirdest thing is when you look at the plastic like the see-through plastic on the brooder somehow they crap up onto it and like it's and you're like how did they do that i get that metaphor where you're like the world elite think of us like chickens because it must be so frustrating to be like chickens all i need is some fresh water quit why do they and they are just too stupid to get it because they're chickens they're always going to be too stupid and is that what people think about me is that like he's just not going to
Starting point is 01:48:23 stop going to the grocery store man man. He's just too stupid. All right, let's read some more. Johnny Generic says, Federal government owns a huge amount of land in the West. I covered this in my blog, Blogspot, Johnny Generic. And we didn't pull it up, but it was on Ammon's computer. He showed it. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:48:39 All right. Jackson says, The land is hard, rocky, scrubby, and arid. Good for little else than cattle grazing. The tortoises would enjoy the company. Down with BLM. Both will do nicely. Amen to that.
Starting point is 01:48:52 That's a good one. Amen to that. All right. Brave New Clown World says Ammon Bundy is described as an American anti-government militant on Wikipedia. That's a title I think we all strive for. But I wouldn'tipedia that's a title i think we all strive for but i i wouldn't i wouldn't say that's that that's accurate no it's not it's it's you know wikipedia always just takes the most extreme version of whatever they can paint you as anti-government people don't roger stone is all about sorry roger stone's all about like never defending yourself you know just always going on the offense so i'm not going to defend
Starting point is 01:49:25 that title you're like whatever i'll take it but uh it's it's not accurate all right russell miller says hey crew just recently subscribed on timcast the after hours shows are hilarious yeah tim pool reading fact check that has nothing to do with topic effing and i was dying love you guys stay safe yeah that was uh pasobic jack pasobic post on an instagram about how all of these people were saying that the vaccines would stop transmission but now you have the pfizer executive who said they didn't test for it there was a fact check put on his his instagram and when you click it it says misleading context because they didn't test for that and i just yelled effing, I actually swore and, like what does that have to do with anything?
Starting point is 01:50:09 But you know, the after hours shows are always really fun so you want to sign up at TimCast.com, we're going to have one of those coming up for you. Alright, Didi Megadudu says the Bundy story was one of the first stories that red pilled me and was a flagrant example of government corruption. I wish
Starting point is 01:50:24 you luck in your race reach out to jason seiler of the simple truth who moved there recently i recently went to waco i went to the uh the branch davidian compound got to uh look at the uh you know read the history of it they have a bunch of stuff there you can check out and when you when you read about this stuff you go you just they do the government does dirty things yeah and like look if there were criminals who could get away with committing a crime they would and so when there are people in government who commit crimes they will get away with it and who's going there's no cops for the cops yeah if you want to if you want to commit a crime just
Starting point is 01:50:58 become a politician and i really wanted to ask you you know what did you learn about government infiltration from your experiences like at the bunny ranch yeah oh man so uh we we actually did not find out that the fbi was even in involved at the ranch uh and until our trial two years well it was almost four years later when we're in trial and we start to run into this like this discovery and we started doing cross-examination with the government witnesses and we find out that the fbi was actually pushing and and in control of this whole thing and that the they tried to scrub that they were even involved at all and we ended up discovering that they were hiding over 3 800 files not documents files of exculpatory evidence and we just blew it all up like it was the fbi that was behind all of this and it was the hrt team the same team that went into waco the same team went into ruby ridge the same team that killed my friend Lavoie Finicum. And it was that same
Starting point is 01:52:05 group of government agents that were pushing all the buttons at the Bundy Ranch. Was there any agent provocateurs? Absolutely. They had what they called the First Amendment team, where they actually went down among the people and were trying to create dissent, trying to provoke the people. All of that was going on. So, yeah, I mean, I could go on and on with that. But, yeah, and they actually had hired former CIA agents to come in and to, like, for alias, to run their alias social media accounts and all of that to try to get the people to basically turn against
Starting point is 01:52:46 us because they they felt like if they could get the people to turn against us and that then they would justify the violence that they were about ready to use upon my family yeah i think they were using the bundy name because i thought ted bundy and and i thought of like ruby ridge and like waco those are the things that were going through my mind whenever i heard about the bundy ranch and they weren't like making it they weren't clearing it up for me nothing was being cleared up And I thought of like Ruby Ridge and like Waco. Those are the things that were going through my mind whenever I heard about the Bundy Ranch. And they weren't like making it. They weren't clearing it up for me. Nothing was being cleared up for me.
Starting point is 01:53:10 Yep. All of that was going on at the little Bundy Ranch in the middle of the desert. All right. Elijah says, Tim, you've got it backwards. Give the death penalty to the rapist, not the innocent child. Why kill the child for the sins of its father? We wouldn't do that in any other case. But I have not made that argument my argument is why should the government have the right to mandate a woman
Starting point is 01:53:29 have to share her body and blood with another human being i just i i i do not see an ethical line there granted there's like no middle ground on the on the debate it's like it's a straight spike and you either fall on one side or the other and it's very very difficult that said, there's a new middle ground forming because the left has become pro-abortion outright where they're arguing for abortion to the point of birth where I'm just like, OK, well, now we're all against that. Yeah, I don't. And they're like, you're right wing. I actually was I was on here debating with a leftist as as pro-choice traditional position, which like you know first first trimester pre-viability but post-viability not allowed in any capacity and he's arguing with me like i'm pro-life and shame is sitting here not saying anything and i'm like the pro-life guy is there like you're
Starting point is 01:54:14 arguing with me this is crazy they've gone nuts on this stuff man but that's that's ultimately what's happening because this is what i said they thought they got me because i said if i have to vote between a democrat who wants abortion to the point of birth and a pro-lifer who says ban all abortion i vote for the guy who's going to ban all abortion because aborting a baby at nine months gestation is insane yeah but like what do you want me to do i'm not happy about the the choice but if that's your position i vote for not killing babies i think i'd err on the other one because letting them kill a baby trying to control society feels like centralizing control of society sounds really dangerous right now some people make make some good points we we legislate morality why where where we draw the line on when it is murder is an interesting
Starting point is 01:55:00 point to be made and i think that if a baby's been in the womb for uh if the baby can survive outside the womb then killing it i mean I think abortion is wrong outright. I think life begins at conception, and I believe it is killing a baby to abort it. I think elective abortion, man, that's tough. I think abortion as an elective process for contraceptive reasons, I would akin to murder. I'm not in the same position as most pro-lifers i don't know why that is but i would say if the baby can survive on its own and you kill it you are murdering the baby the thin layer of flesh between the mother and the baby does not change the fact the baby could survive if it were to be removed from the mother so there's killing it
Starting point is 01:55:38 serves no purpose but democrats tried passing a law to grant exceptions to allow this and i think that's just bonkers insane. It's crazy, man. So who do you vote for? Who do you vote for? Now you actually have Republicans saying, okay, we're going to give exceptions on the issues of rape. And I'm like, well, okay. All right, I guess.
Starting point is 01:55:56 And Democrats are like, no, no, no, we don't want any restrictions at all. And I'm like, well, I'm not voting for that. Yeah, they show their true colors and really what their motives are. They really do. Yeah. Thomas Scarlett says, do you not get two murder charges for killing a pregnant woman?
Starting point is 01:56:11 In some states. Not all states, but in some states you would. And that's just as weird. Isn't it in California that if a woman's pregnant and you crash into her car or whatever negligently, they charge you with killing the baby?
Starting point is 01:56:23 Sounds like it. I think it's California. You hear about that judge that, I guess, this lady got pulled over for going in the HOV lane, and she claimed that she was pregnant, and he had to agree with her that there was two people, so he had her fined for not having a car seat. I mean,
Starting point is 01:56:45 I think that's funny, but I think he should have just went, oh, you got me. Oh, geez, precedent has been set. It's a life. Thank you so much, ma'am. Just roll with that. Okay, Gen Z says Ian is pure evil. Okay.
Starting point is 01:57:03 Good and evil are very subjective. He's not that bad he's not pure evil i'm 87 percent good 13 evil yeah you know 13 it's it's you know like a like a like a good uh delirium if you're good all the time you're a zealot because good is your own subjective idea of what good is good point no no No, no, I think that's evil. Of course. Zealotry is evil. Zealotry?
Starting point is 01:57:29 Zealotry in general is just zealotry. Yeah, zealotry is typically like, well, blind zealotry to specify. But like, yeah. Because you can be zealot about positive things. Like not being willing to reason or listen, I think, is the banality of evil. Protecting your ignorance. I don't know. Sometimes you got to just go with what you know is right.
Starting point is 01:57:47 All right. A Jiro says, Tim, you guys keep talking about Putin unleashing nukes. What about us doing the same? Talk about us. I don't see the U S nuking Ukraine. That's where the war is happening.
Starting point is 01:57:58 And I don't see the U S launching a preemptive nuclear strike on Russia. Although, Hey, maybe I just don't think it's likely. I think the reality is that Putin needs to win this war in Ukraine and nukes our path to doing it. The U.S. has got a major military alliance with NATO. I don't know. You guys think the U.S. would nuke them first? I don't think so. No. All right. Camgirl Asuna says, so let me get this straight. These people are intentionally trying to reduce the population, and that is not grounds for armed revolt. Just let them kill me, eh, Tim?
Starting point is 01:58:30 Well, first of all, I'm not saying intent. And the interesting thing is this falls in line with like this Fallout narrative. Have you ever heard of the video game series Fallout? It doesn't seem like it'd be up your alley. I haven't. In fall i think it might be one it might be two you might know this yeah the super mutant queen or king or whatever first one the first one says we'll allow you to live but we're going to sterilize you like we don't want to kill you and harm you but we can't allow you to procreate like that's one of the endings and you can be like okay and then you live a happy healthy life but you know they sterilize you or whatever you become a mutant no well you can choose to right that's one of the options one of i heard you guys talking about fallout last time one of the things the fall universe gets wrong is all the food in a real life situation like you
Starting point is 01:59:15 were saying pick up moldy cheese you'd be lucky to find a piece of food it'd be dirt in a real it would be like 90 plus percent of the population would just starve out right away eating each other but uh as you can even find something someone away. They'd be eating each other. If you can even find someone to eat, it'd be crazy. Because people would be irradiated. As for armed revolt, you are 20 days away from a red tsunami where we may actually see some profound changes. So no, no armed revolt. The opportunity right now is, look, Elon is buying Twitter.
Starting point is 01:59:46 We may see a major shift in the culture war that grants free speech. I mean, things are looking really good. Don't ruin it now by acting a fool. Now is the chance to just walk with a smile on your face, cast your ballot, get your friends to vote. And then when the Republicans come in, I'm not confident in all the Republicans, but I think a handful. Carrie Lake, that's really exciting to me in Arizona. And if you've got concerns about what's going on in Arizona's government, I think Carrie Lake's a really great option. So get out there and vote. She swept
Starting point is 02:00:10 the primary. Let's see what happens. So, it's looking good. We'll say that. You don't make mistakes when you're winning. Alright, well, I think we've gone a little bit over, so we'll just leave it there. If you haven't already, please smash the like button.
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