Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #641 Putin Tried To Detonate NUKE But Was Sabotaged Claims Insider w/Doug Mastriano

Episode Date: October 21, 2022

Tim, Ian, Luke, & Serge join Doug Mastriano to discuss Putin's attempt to launch a nuke, Russia planning a false flag attack on a dam in Ukraine, Bill Gates saying the energy crisis is good, Wawa clos...ing multiple Philadelphia area stores due to surging crime, Hunter Biden being implicated in over 450 crimes, & Mastriano talking about how he will stop the indoctrination of kids in schools. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:51 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. According to a new report, an insider in Moscow is claiming that Vladimir Putin's already tried to detonate a nuke, but top brass are sabotaging him. I don't know how much I believe it. It's really excellent propaganda for the West. If we're talking about sending more weapons and resources to Ukraine, the threat of nuclear war certainly might get people riled up. But we'll see. I mean, you got to choose what you who you trust in these reports. And that's why I'm careful. I'm saying this is what an insider is claiming. Take it with a grain of salt. However, another report came out on a TV member of top brass in Russia
Starting point is 00:01:29 said that Kiev is planning an attack on a dam and now Daily Mail is reporting this is evidence that Russia is planning a false flag attack. So sort through it how you can sort through it. Both sides are obviously going to be accusing each other but I'll put it this way. I don't trust Vladimir Putin. I don't trust Vladimir Putin. I don't trust a whole lot of people in this one.
Starting point is 00:01:48 So that's what makes it so hard. Fog of war. As Luke's t-shirt says, truth is the first casualty in war. So we'll talk about that. And we've also got AOC getting heckled at, it was like a town hall thing she was doing. And this is like the second time I think we've seen in the past week where her own constituents are getting angry. They're protesting crime. One guy stood up and said a 9-11 first responder was attacked.
Starting point is 00:02:10 What does she do? She starts dancing, sticks out her tongue while they're chanting that she's got to go. I think she's losing her grip. And then Elon Musk says he's going to fire 75% of Twitter employees once he takes over. So we're all really excited for that. Before we get started, my friends, Head over to TimCast.com. Become a member if you want to support our work. As a member you'll get access to the exclusive uncensored shows.
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Starting point is 00:02:54 YouTube is not notifying them of the show. YouTube is not letting people know when the show goes live. And for some people, they need it. If you share the video, you can help us bypass that censorship. Now, joining us to talk about all of this and a whole lot more is Senator Doug Mastriano. Oh, yeah. Thanks for having me on. Looking forward to this show. Yeah, yeah. Who are you? Can you want to? So I'm a senator in Pennsylvania. I have Gettysburg and Chambersburg and Hanover and Shippensburg in my district. I'm running to be the next governor of Pennsylvania. I served most of my adult life in uniform in the United States Army for 30 years. I started off on the Cold War on
Starting point is 00:03:29 the Iron Curtain with my wife, Rebbe, who's here with us. And you know what? After our initial training, we shipped off to Nuremberg, Germany with the 2nd Cavalry Regiment and patrolled the East German and Czechoslovakian borders, defending against that kind of system and ideas and oppression that are now creeping into american society oh yeah and revy and i remember the wall coming down and and how the people in the east were just excited to be free finally he was amazing well we got to make sure that doesn't happen here every day passionate because we did see we did see the flip of that yeah people coming out of it people being separated by that wall from their families
Starting point is 00:04:05 for 40 years and it was pretty it was pretty oppressive over there even on the free side right we saw a big difference we moved back to germany after the wall had come down and big difference in just the whole you know feel of the nation and the culture there so you know rebbe would you like to introduce yourself please yes I am Doug's wife Rebby Rebecca go by Rebby and hoping to be the first lady in Pennsylvania so we can we can get things in in order instead of having all the left agenda moving forward in our state we need most of the Pennsylvanians do not believe that way. And so we want to stand for the people.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I hear you. All right, well, thank you both for hanging out with us. It's going to be a whole lot of fun. We also got the t-shirt vendor himself. I was actually on the other side of that wall. My family was a part of the Sardinian movement, so I know exactly what you guys are talking about. My name's Luke Grodowski here of wearechange.org
Starting point is 00:05:02 and I come here to you with one simple message. People will forget your words. people will forget your actions but no one will forget that you voted for joe biden and that's what reads on my t-shirt which you could get on the best political shirts dot com and it's a great one to start conversations it's a long-winded one and you either get one of two reactions one is someone laughing high-fiving you or just utter disdain and shock by some individuals and i love having those moments. You want to have those moments? Get the shirt on thebestpoliticalshirts.com because you do. I'm here.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Thank you so much for having me. And I just want to add too, I mean, you're walking down the street. I see this all the time with you, Luke. People will be like, hey, brother, I love your shirt. You know, high-five. You meet people. That's a way to build a community, a way to make friends, and a way to start conversations and spread messages that can't be censored. There's conversations and spread messages that can't be censored.
Starting point is 00:05:46 There's a lot of things that can't be censored. Make fun of people who voted for Joe Biden. Exactly. Make tons of friends. Who thought? Yeah. Hey, buddy. It's Ian Crossland here, iancrossland.net.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Let's just keep this ball rolling. What's up, Doug? Hey, Rebecca. Good to see you guys. And Iamserd.com. Flip and switch is pushing buttons. You know how it is. There you go.
Starting point is 00:06:03 All right. Let's jump into this first story from Timcast.com. Putin has already attempted to detonate a nuke, was stopped by sabotage, insider says. Russian expert believes senior level officials are working against Putin to prevent nuclear detonations in Ukraine. A Moscow insider has claimed that Russian President Vladimir Putin recently attempted to detonate a nuclear weapon, but that his efforts were sabotaged by top brass at the Kremlin. The report published at the Mirror also says unspecified technical issues could account for the failure of Russian nukes in recent weeks. Unspecified.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Well, of course, this could only mean one thing. Aliens. Because that's the conspiracy theory that whenever, you know, like the aliens shut down the nukes, people actually talk about it. I don't know why they think that's true. I mentioned this briefly before the show. I said, I think it absolves humanity of responsibility and that's why people want to believe it. The reality is, I'll put it this way.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Yo, world leaders, they're not above you. If you sit down in, if you're in a bar, you wouldn't even realize you're talking to someone because people are just people you go into the courts you meet politicians you meet enough people you meet people who are wealthy and own things and you realize everybody sort of acts the exact same way obviously people know different things people have access to different things but what i'm trying to say here with this is when you're when your neighbor got angry at you over some petty BS, that same level of emotion can happen with someone like Putin who's got his finger over the button. Do you think this story is true, Doug?
Starting point is 00:07:34 I really don't buy it. I don't have any idea what Putin would have to advantage himself by detonating a nuke. I mean, obviously, he's talking. I'm the defender of Putin. I actually designed strategies to defend our allies in Eastern and Northern Europe against him. I don't want him in the Baltic nations. I don't want him in Poland, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:07:52 But he needs to talk about nukes as a deterrence against the U.S. and NATO. Obviously, a red line for him was 2014, of course, when a new government came in. It was pro-West, pro-EU, pro-NATO. We've seen a similar situation in 2008, of course, with Georgia. Georgia was bucking real hard and working real hard to get NATO membership, and Vladimir Putin was like, oh, no, you're not. So he swept in in Abkhazia,
Starting point is 00:08:15 South Ossetia, in Georgia, and waged that war, achieved his objectives, had a buffer zone, and then stopped. This, I have to say, I'm pleasantly surprised by the actions of the Ukrainian armed forces. Just who would have known that they would be able to stop Vladimir Putin and actually have a counteroffensive? Yeah, well, they were training since 2014. U.S. special operations were down there training every single one of them and preparing the landscape. And when you're an invading army, you don't have the advantage. They have home territory and they have all the latest and greatest U.S. technology. Now, I actually read this article, and this article is all over the place. Number one, the Mirror doesn't have the best reputation. And they say in the article, quote,
Starting point is 00:08:51 Insider claims the launch was not done because of technical failure or by reluctant military chiefs. So, again, who's the source? Who's telling you these stories? And number two, you can't even get the story correct. Which one is it? The Mirror is NewsGard certified, Luke. What do you mean? Duesgaard says it's good.
Starting point is 00:09:09 And another thing to understand here, there is a chain of command specifically with Russia when it comes to launching nuclear weapons that people should know about, because it's not just Vladimir Putin pressing his finger on the button. He also, in Russia, they also have something that's sort of similar, like the nuclear football, but they have a briefcase that essentially notifies the general staff. The general staff have access to the launch codes. Then, after the general staff get the launch codes, they could give it to individual weapons commanders. Then they, of course, execute the procedure.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Then they send the nuke. So that's the protocol. That's the chain of command that they have in Russia, which I think is also important to understand here. It's not just one guy pressing a button. And there are ways that the chain of command, the general staff, or the individual commanders could say, no, this is crazy. And that's a likely scenario here.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Okay, but how about this? Putin leaked the story on purpose to scare people in the West to think that he's actively prepared and wants to use nukes. You know what I mean? Like saber-rattled to the extreme degree. There is merit to that. We listen to any of his major speeches, and usually something about nukes comes up, or through a proxy of his. And so, yes, that's his deterrent model. Much as Saddam Hussein, I was part of Desert Storm liberating Kuwait, a war for energy, by the way, and we knew that. But then Saddam Hussein got rid of his chemical
Starting point is 00:10:23 biological weapons, didn't tell the west but he kept talking about he's going to use them against us as a deterrent so I do believe that that's a possibility Putin wants us to know that if we take it to the next level there's a high danger that it's going to escalate what what do you think uh you know I'm not asking because I haven't read a lot about this or that the audience doesn't have an idea but I'm curious your thoughts why do you think Putin decided to invade Ukraine and why is this happening? Vladimir Putin has a bunch of problems on his hands. First off is this single commodity country. Basically it's oil and gas. A few years ago it was $70 billion a year. Now it's over a hundred billion thanks to the gas
Starting point is 00:10:57 prices. A couple issues though, Ukraine has been drawing closer and closer to the EU, NATO, and the United States. The government is very pro since 2014 when most of these troubles began. He also has a population problem in that his demographics are shrinking as far as ethnic European Russians. I'm not talking about the Asians that make up most of his country. And that demographic, he would like to have them in my studies within his sphere of influence. I think the most vulnerable place in Europe, other than Ukraine, is Eastern Latvia, Dagopils. When I visited there some years ago, I did not feel safe, and I was there in civilian clothes with a Danish buddy of mine, and it's like 90% ethnic Russian, and most of the Russians there stayed as a result of the Cold War being stationed there. Their
Starting point is 00:11:40 dads were military members or intel officials, and they're receiving a stipend from Moscow, by the way, as well, about $1,000 a month to live. The Russian citizens that are there? The Latvians who are ethnic Russians. Yeah, things don't look very promising for the Russian Empire, and population decline is another major factor. And now, with this war, that only has
Starting point is 00:11:59 been exacerbated that much worse. It's a petrostate. Ukraine is also going to challenge them specifically with the national resources that they have, the gas that they have, specifically in the regions that Vladimir Putin now is occupying inside of Ukraine. So there's a lot of things happening behind the scenes. There's, of course, NATO and their influence and them being on their border. There's, of course, the sphere of influence that Russia wants to still maintain in this specific region. And it's a back and forth-forth challenge, and I think it was a desperate move.
Starting point is 00:12:26 It was a desperate situation. And it's a crazy situation that's only going to get crazier from here. And he needed a decisive knockout blow in that first week. When the Russian air assault and airborne units came into the airport outside of Kyiv, those are Putin's best forces. There's two armies in Russia that I call. You have the specially trained, highly motivated ones like the airborne special forces, the air assault,
Starting point is 00:12:48 and then you have the rest. And the rest right now you're seeing being grinded down by the Ukrainians. When they were beaten back, that was a clear sign that Putin was in trouble. This is going to be a long protracted war. Yeah, I remember seeing that, seeing them land in the airport inside of Kiev and then not hearing anything else about them because they weren't nowhere to be found. And I'm like, that doesn't really make sense.
Starting point is 00:13:06 This looks like a failed operation. That's just 18. But if you remember in Grozny when the Russians, it's about buffer states. Luke, you said it. It's a buffer because Napoleon and the Germans and two wars and what have you. When the first attempt to go into Grozny in the Caucasus,
Starting point is 00:13:20 the Russians were beaten back and eventually came back with overwhelming force. I don't think Putin has that leeway though right now. Do you think it's reasonable in the, in the sense of an armistice for Eastern Ukraine to be split between the Ukrainians and the Russians, those freeways to go into Crimea? I think that's ultimately the goal is to take those freeways to turn Crimea into a, and Sebastopol into a trade hub. But do you think that's reasonable for Ukraine and Russia to share those freeways, to each take one, or neutralize the territory in some sense?
Starting point is 00:13:49 Are you saying, like, the eastern region goes to Russia? Or make it neutral, or just the freeway from the Donbass. There's two of them, and one of them could be Ukrainian, and one of them could be Russia. So the land bridge that you're describing, Ian, is exactly what Vladimir Putin needed. And I think, actually, his idea of driving that land bridge east, I'm sorry, west towards the Transnistria, which is a breakaway republic on the Ukrainian-Romanian borders, I think he wants to have a broader pro-Russian area underneath his grasp. It does remind me a bit, analogies historically are dangerous, but sedate and land 1938, Czechoslovakia,
Starting point is 00:14:23 Germans there in Czechoslovakia. And of course, the bad guy Hitler goes in and liberates, quote unquote. And we're seeing a similar thing. But the problem with Putin has is the resolve of the West. I mean, how many billions of dollars of American money has gone in there? At least 100 on the books. Well, there's secret budgets and then there's public budgets. The public budget is around 60 to 80 to 100 people guesstimate right now.
Starting point is 00:14:46 But the House right now is talking about doing another 60 billion bill specifically just for Ukraine. That's a lot of money. And you think about the Germans are so proud because they came out and they announced they're giving $2 billion to the Ukrainians to fight the Russians. But the dirty little secret is they're paying $2 billion a month for Russian oil and gas. The hypocrisy. You know, when Trump, remember in 2018
Starting point is 00:15:09 in the UN, Trump gave a speech and lectured the Germans about real life and they were laughing at him and mocking him. Who's laughing now? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:15:16 not the working class in this country who are looking at their gas tanks. We hit, what was it, five something a gallon and it went down
Starting point is 00:15:23 and now it's going back up. California, it's eight bucks in some parts. the germans who are told prepare not to take hot showers this winter because of energy costs did you hear this the bbc is preparing scripts for when they have to announce the blackouts in the uk that was that was the guardian we talked about that the other day yeah do you see any resolution to this because all i'm seeing is escalation escalation obviously the winter is going to stop a lot of the fighting. But Putin is kind of posturing like he might launch another invasion from the north of Belarus right now. All I see is escalations. Do you see any way that this could possibly de-escalate? I know Putin said he's open to negotiations during the upcoming G20 meeting.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Do you think that's going to be successful? I viewed a Russian broadcast last night that was talking about how there's going to be no operations this winter. I think there probably will be, but it'll be minor. I see no off-ramp this year. What do you think an off-ramp would look like? Negotiated peace, but it's going to have to be the United States. This is a hard thing to say. Do you tell Ukraine
Starting point is 00:16:17 to give up Ukrainian territory? You know what the sad thing is? Well, is it sad? 1994, the Bucharest Treaty. Remember that? That Ukraine was like the third largest nuclear power in the world at the time. That's right. And the United States, Russia, and Great Britain promised to defend their borders if they'd give up the nukes.
Starting point is 00:16:35 And they gave up the nukes. And who's defending their borders? That's the problem we have. And Russia promised not to invade them if they gave up the nukes. That's right. And then here we are today. And the problem with this is it sends a signal to every country build nukes as fast as possible or else exactly that's that's nightmarish that's what the uh the indian general staff after the desert storm in 1991 and that was
Starting point is 00:16:55 my first combat experience there they did a study in 92 saying we have to get nukes to prevent this kind of attack on us from any country not specifically the united states they're the bread basket of europe they're you know and they have a long tumultuous history there i called them of attack on us from any country, not specifically the United States. They're the breadbasket of Europe. And they have a long, tumultuous history. I called them the Afghanistan of Europe, because when you look at all the violence, all the bloodshed, specifically in Ukraine, it is a major clash point. And people were kidding themselves not to see this as an upcoming major proxy war that's happening right now.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And I could only hope it de-escalates, but I think this could even last a decade. I think it could even last more than that, especially with the way that these wars are fought, especially with how close the people are, especially how there's neighbors fighting against each other, which is atrocious, which is absolutely horrible. I think we should try to stop it,
Starting point is 00:17:39 but at the same time, I don't see it stopping anytime soon. You'd have to, Ukraine would have to sacrifice the Eastern region. They'd have to give that up. Unless, you know, Putin just eventually gives up. But I think Putin can and will use nukes, albeit I don't have nearly the military expertise you do, Senator. But my concern is that Putin is, he's ideological and he's looking at the end of the great russian empire of what russia is i don't i don't see him just eventually going like well you know we lost this one i think he looks at it like we will be great we will never back down under no circumstances if he loses in
Starting point is 00:18:16 ukraine he's done right and you know you hear rumblings now i don't think it's as viable as western you know comment commentators are saying because he's been very successful in eliminating opposition around him the past two decades, actually. He's actually the longest ruler since the Tsars at this point here. I mean, it's incredible. Ukraine, I mean, wow, if they can push through this winter here and then have time to rearm and refit and retrain with all this new equipment and this money hopefully that's going to the battlefield,
Starting point is 00:18:45 I mean, they might be able to start putting the Russians back. But then what do you do, Vladimir Putin, when your armies are pushed out? And that might happen. Or buy it. Small ones. I mean, can they afford to buy eastern Ukraine? It costs them $300 billion. The Chinese are.
Starting point is 00:18:58 A trillion dollars. Well, this is why the Chinese have a weird kind of situation on their hands here because they're a big trading partner with Ukraine. They have a lot of relations with Ukraine. But at the same time, they're still geopolitically opposed against the United States. So this is a very weird situation for them. They're kind of like one foot in, one foot out. But I think they're also a country that we should be looking at right now, especially when it comes to Taiwan, especially when it comes to the bigger geopolitical picture, especially with BRICS and the petrodollar in question with Saudi Arabia.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Let me pull up this next story real quick, and we'll get back into it. From the Daily Mail, Russia plans false flag attack on hydroelectric dam to flood Kursan in latest attack on energy plants as Ukraine brings in four-hour blackouts to tackle electricity shortages. So that's bad. Now, what they're saying is, General Sergei Surovikin, Russia's new Supreme Commander in Ukraine, has spoken to Russian media in recent days about what he called a devastating strike
Starting point is 00:19:52 on the Nova Kakhovka Dam, which he said was being plotted by Kiev's troops. Surovikin, who has also been preparing the Russian public for a retreat from the region, said the blast would flood Kherson and cause widespread damage. They go on to mention in the article that according to experts from the study of war, it's actually them prepping us to accept a false flag attack.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Because what's really happening is they're saying, hey, look, they're going to attack us. Then they blow the dam, knocking out power in the region, retreating and then blaming Ukraine for it. Who do you believe? Yeah, that's... Go ahead. You wanted to say something before.
Starting point is 00:20:31 You know, I've studied Russia and the Soviet Union and now Russia for 30-some years, and that they think half European and half Asian. I mean, and their foot, like you said, actually, is in both camps. It's kind of like with China. I mean, and their foot, like you said, actually, is in both camps. It's kind of like with China. I mean, they are sometimes oriental in their thinking. In the end, for Putin, it's about his survival, his power base, and after that, what's better for his vision for Russia.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Yeah, I covered this story in my earlier video today on my channel, and it's the United States and US Intel saying Russia's going to launch a false flag attack to flood this. Russia is saying the same thing on their state television, And everything they're saying is almost the same exact thing, except you reverse the major actors here. They're saying the United States is going to be launching a false flag attempt. And we've seen this kind of rhetoric heat up, especially today, which, you know, is concerning to say the least. But anything could happen i think we should always be skeptical
Starting point is 00:21:25 but when it comes to this larger war we have to understand that there's also unconventional warfare what happened to nordstrom wasn't an accident and i think we have to look at our infrastructure as as it's also a potential target for the russians or the chinese or even third parties that could intervene and say hey it could be in our interest to spark up this conflict make it a bigger conflict and it might not even be russia or the united states that could intervene and say, hey, it could be in our interest to spark up this conflict, make it a bigger conflict. And it might not even be Russia or the United States that could set up a false flag. It could be a third party, a country or another special group that comes in there and it's like, OK, fight each other as we rise to power. So obviously the concern is, is a humanitarian crisis. So we have the deeper rivers cut off the Russian troops, of course, that are on in the Kyrgyerasin side of the west side of the river.
Starting point is 00:22:07 The Ukrainians are poised. They've knocked out most of the bridges. The Russians are resupplying with pontoons and boats and what have you. That can't be sustained for long combat operations. So if there's Russian forces trapped, I think that dam is going down no matter what. What's surprising to me in my early days in the Army, the Soviets, the Russians, were far better at disinformation and information operations than they are today. Putin has two audiences, the international audience and, of course, his domestic. His domestic audience thinks he's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:22:36 He's got 80-some percent positives despite the bad news. Does he really, though? How much can we trust of their media? According to Trifalgar. I know. Yeah. I do think he tends to be popular. I mean, he's the macho man. You know, we have that image ingrained in our brains, you know, in a T-shirt on the back of it.
Starting point is 00:22:55 He has high approval numbers because he turned Russia from an international joke to a place that, of course, made sure that people weren't drinking all the time. One of the biggest reasons why Putin is as popular as he is is because he's not drunk all the time like the previous leader was. Yeltsin. Yeltsin, exactly. And then when you see him reprimand people who do get drunk, who are in the factories, who are in major institutions of power in Russia, he makes an example out of them.
Starting point is 00:23:22 And even when there's occasions to have a drink or have a shot or have cheers, he's like, no, I'm not doing it. So that's, you know, one reason why people see him as this kind of, you know, savior to Russia and their interests and their country. But at the end of the day, it's just another politician. And how long can he last with losses and casualties stacking up? I mean, Afghanistan, you know, eight years later on,
Starting point is 00:23:41 eight years of war with Afghanistan, they finally withdrew in 1989. I mean. But this is Russia's strategy, hasn't it always been? Just send ridiculous amounts of your troops until you just overwhelm your opponents? That has been their approach since World War, actually since World War I. Yeah. Not in Vietnam.
Starting point is 00:23:56 They were happy to fight the limited war by sending arms into Vietnam. I think after World War II, they realized it's just not a tenable way to fight. So proxy wars using allies against the United States. And then that flipped in the 80s when Reagan started using proxies in Latin America and elsewhere and in Africa as well. And then in Afghanistan, where we kind of realized we don't have to do all the fighting. So, you know, the policeman of the world, remember that? I mean, that notion from some years ago. Limited war.
Starting point is 00:24:21 It was a Henry Kissinger doctrine that they kind of instituted. Vladimir Putin is using, you is using this culture war rhetoric. There's a lot of people who feel that in the West right now, we've got these degenerate, deviant, and just abhorrent ideologies emerging from the left. Vladimir Putin seems to be capitalizing that, outright calling out this stuff as Satanism. And so there are a lot of people, even in the U.S., who think he's actually this, it's this great Christian nation fighting back against evil and degeneracy. Yeah, he's also speaking out against child conversion therapy. Right. But is this him realizing there's an opportunity to propagandize,
Starting point is 00:24:59 or does he actually believe the things he's saying? Well, I mean, he has a problem on his hands, because I know he wants to identify that as traditionally Russia. But Russia today is becoming more and more increasingly Muslim than it is Christian or European. So, you know, what is Russia today? I think that's – it's hard to get our minds around, you know, in America. But I think that's part of his land grab with, you know, south of Tsechevkazi in Georgia and now in eastern Ukraine are ethnic Russians. But something really went wrong.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Since 2014, Vladimir Putin has managed to forge a Ukrainian identity, whether you're ethnic Ukrainian or ethnic Russian. They now identify fully as Ukrainian, most of them. There's always exceptions. I was there when the Maidan protests started. And so I was hanging out. It was awesome. You saw it?
Starting point is 00:25:43 Food was great. I saw the building that they set on fire. I got to see the statue that they'd pulled down of Lenin. Wow. Yeah, it was a long, complicated story and how that all went down. But I met a lot of these people, a lot of young people, and they all basically said the same thing.
Starting point is 00:26:00 We remember what it was like under the Soviet Union, and we never want to go back. So there are a lot of people who talk about the Eastern region, and it's probably true for in the east. A lot of people who are ethnically Russian, they speak Russian and view themselves as more Russian. But then you're going to end up with a split in the country from people who are like, I remember the Soviets. You know, we're not happy with that. And then there are going to be a lot of people who are just like, I don't trust the West. I don't like their ideology.
Starting point is 00:26:24 And that's interesting because their grandparents lived through the Holomodir, however you say it, the forced starvation by Stalin. Yeah, that's it. In what, 32, 33 over the winter? And 7 to 10 million, we don't even know how many die, Ukrainians, and happen in other countries. I mean, it's a tough situation.
Starting point is 00:26:40 And Putin is stuck now. He didn't have his decisive knockout blow. He did not get Zelensky. He did not take Kiev. And now he's stuck in his fight. I'm just surprised. I mean, there are a lot of people who firmly believe Putin is winning. I think that's just not true. I know there's propaganda and it really annoys me. Like you pull up American social media and every single video is like some Ukrainian soldier flicking a cigar being like, and I'm like, come on. Like, I know they're not winning every single fight, you know, but but you look at where the major news is breaking, where the major moves are happening, happening and what Putin's doing. And like, yeah, they're getting pushed out. But there's a lot of people who just I suppose they don't want to believe it. They want to believe that, you know, Russia is winning. He's advancing.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Ukraine is is is not winning. My thought on this is just, did Putin not realize that NATO was going to be, it was going to be a proxy war with NATO? I mean, you have Russian pundits saying, since the beginning of this, I think like in March, they're like, we're at war with NATO. Okay, did he think he was going to win that? We're providing intelligence, we're providing weapons, training. Not only that, our citizens, volunteers. And now we're learning from the intercept actual U.S. special operations on the ground in Ukraine. Why would Putin think he's going to go up against NATO and win? Is it a last stand or what is it?
Starting point is 00:27:53 I think he underestimated the resolve of the Ukrainians, which I did too as well. I'm surprised that they were able to beat back the air assault, airborne forces, and then overestimated his own forces. On paper, good army, pretty modernized you know the frontline forces but look what happened i mean but this also betrays a point here we have to in pennsylvania plays a role in this i mean energy yeah so we're now we're in this energy crisis here we're told gas prices growing up because of putin that's that's biden's line uh but pennsylvania has the resources to become a leader in energy in the world with our natural gas.
Starting point is 00:28:27 We have one of the largest natural gas deposits around the globe. We have great high-quality coal. We have high-quality oil. So my goal is, as governor, of course, is to make us number one in energy production. There's $100 billion of potential wealth out there to be received by Pennsylvania if we can produce that much. It's all about capability. My goal is to have a pipeline to Philly, out to Delaware, so we can start exporting to Boston, because Boston had to bring in Russian ships in 2018 in a cold winter.
Starting point is 00:28:54 You remember the madness? Because there's no pipelines from Pennsylvania. So they brought in two ships from Siberia, 4,000 miles away. So I want to be able to support Boston, but maybe export also to Germany, get them off of Russian oil and gas, and maybe our friends in poland and for sure the lithuanians have already you know committed that they wanted to buy it off of pennsylvania i was willing to entertain a lot of this go green stuff for a while but the moment you come out and say you know joe biden says he wants to get get us off fossil fuels he says he's it was part of his campaign when he ran for
Starting point is 00:29:21 president then he shuts down keystone then he bans fracking in certain areas. And then he goes to Saudi Arabia and begs for oil. I'm like, it's not about getting, it's not about stopping fossil fuels. I don't know what the actual, actually, let me just ask you, how does this make sense? That we got to stop using fossil fuels and then he hurts the United States and then goes over to Saudi Arabia and begs them to keep up production so we can keep getting fossil fuels. What then he hurts the United States and then goes over to Saudi Arabia and begs them to keep up production so we can keep getting fossil fuels. What's the reasoning? That when we were energy independent and gas was under two bucks a gallon.
Starting point is 00:29:54 184. 184, just less than, what, two years ago, just over two years ago. And now we're begging the Saudis and even go to the Venezuelans and kind of winking and nodding to the Iranians. Are you kidding me? And exporting our wealth over these foreign countries who aren't really that friendly. I mean, we have a good relation with the Saudis because of necessity, because who's around them? And it's a rough neighborhood. But United States ought to be energy independent.
Starting point is 00:30:17 And that's one thing. This is the age of governors. I'm glad you brought other candidates on the show here. Pennsylvania can lead the way in making America energy independent once again. Why do you think it is that they're advocating for no energy independence at home while begging others for energy? I mean, do we just not understand?
Starting point is 00:30:33 Or is it just... I wonder if it's that Democrats know their base wants environmentalism, but they also know you can't have cheap gas and environmentalism, so they're just lying. I think it's exactly that. I think they're driven by a gross ideology here that that's making life harder, more expensive than the working class people.
Starting point is 00:30:50 The Democrats claim they represent. Let me let me let me jump to this story real quick. We have to just really go before doing that. You know, they got to build back better somehow. What better way than to destroy the previous version of it? And I really wanted to ask you a question, Doug, because the Obama, the Biden administration has specifically stopped domestic energy exploration and production. Will they stand in your way as governor? And can they stop you from doing what you want to do? In state, that's that's my ballyweg on state lands. I completely control that on private lands
Starting point is 00:31:17 with the cooperation of Latinos. I don't know if we have time. I got a four prong approach. It's called the Pennsylvania Energy Independence Act. It's not a gimmick. It's actually, I developed this with the energy sector. And of course, we want to do it responsibly. We want to do it cleanly. We don't want our trout being killed and poisoning our land, obviously. We want cancer-causing agents. And the energy sector has proven it can do it better. The first part, of course, is rolling back our entry into this regional greenhouse gas initiative, REGI, which is a carbon tax. It's increased. It's doubled almost our cost of energy in Pennsylvania starting the 1st of June. So on day one, we're going to be out of it
Starting point is 00:31:50 when I'm sworn in on 17 January, and you'll see immediate relief for the working class people out there, savings in energy. So it's not a choice between heating and eating. Part two of that, of course, is rolling back about eight years of regulations from our Department of Environmental Protection
Starting point is 00:32:01 within Pennsylvania that have gone too far because it's so restrictive that they're driving energy businesses to Ohio, West Virginia, and Texas, and I want them back in Pennsylvania. And then, of course, I talked about the pipeline, one coming across from Pittsburgh area to Philly, and I'll bring lots of great jobs. I'll bring security as far as energy goes. It will improve it for NATO. And then also I'd like to see a pipeline towards Lake Erie.
Starting point is 00:32:26 And then, of course, I'll open up state lands. And doing that, I can do all that without being stopped by the EPA. Let me pull up this story. It's from the Daily Wire. Bill Gates on energy crisis. It's good for the long run. The reason I think this is so important, let me give you a bit of context here. They say the billionaire and Microsoft co-founder explained during an interview with CNBC that although global economies cannot immediately discard oil and gas, current shortages in the European energy market will prompt a faster transition away from fossil fuels. Quote, now without the Russian natural gas being available in Europe, it's a setback. We need to find non-Russian hydrocarbon sources to substitute for those. Keeping those economies in decent shape is a
Starting point is 00:33:09 priority. Now, on the other hand, it's good for the long run because people won't want to be dependent on Russian natural gas, so they'll move to these new approaches more rapidly. Here's the point. For all the people that are very concerned about climate change and the environment and all that stuff, hey, man, I hear you. But these people are lying to you. They're saying it's good that Europe's in an energy crisis right now. Italy, they're using candlelight for their stores. The U.K. is preparing scripts.
Starting point is 00:33:35 This is the Guardian reporting. The BBC is preparing these scripts for when the blackouts hit. So now you've got in the United States, you've got gas in California at $8. You've got gas on the rise nationally. It's over four. It was at four dollars something right now. They're telling you we have to stop using this stuff because of climate change. And then Joe Biden goes to, as you mentioned, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, and just says, keep up their production.
Starting point is 00:33:58 They clearly still want this stuff. Their agenda is it's political and it does not match what they're saying at home. So I used to be all about like, OK, you know, let's find renewable energies. Then I saw them going overseas to our adversaries. So we're dependent on them. OK, Bill Gates can point out we don't want to be dependent on Russia. You know what that means? It means American energy independence. It doesn't mean walking away from it. And we have it. And, you know, I'm no fool. I'm cognizant. I'll be challenged, of course, by the EPA and the Biden administration when I'm governor next year. But we're going to do it because that's that's that's underneath the constitutional power of the states.
Starting point is 00:34:31 The reason why I would say this is the age of the governors we've seen, we saw during the COVID shutdown, which was eye opening for all of us, whether conservative or not, we saw how dangerous this trend was towards tyranny and stripping away our freedoms that we just took for granted. We saw Pennsylvania with very restrictive powers by Governor Wolf and never was a governor more appropriately named. And then, of course, and then, of course, Ron DeSantis in Florida. And I kind of say this jokingly, but I really do mean it. I want to bring a little bit of Florida to Pennsylvania as far as freedoms go. Yeah, but guys, this is not what Bill Gates wants. And what Bill Gates wants is what Bill Gates gets.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Okay, he paid how much money to the corporate media? $250 million. He bought a lot of influence here. He helped spur on the Inflation Reduction Act, which doesn't actually reduce inflation. But we have to understand here when he's talking about new approaches, he's also talking about specifically the businesses that he has invested in. So he's not talking about energy independence because of the United States drilling and exploring domestic energy. He's talking about unproven technologies
Starting point is 00:35:30 that again, have not been tested, most likely are insufficient. A lot of people are calling them scams and rightfully so. And when we see this larger problem in the United Kingdom, people will suffer. There's a big potential for blackouts.
Starting point is 00:35:44 People will lose their savings, their money, because they're trying to just afford the ability to heat their homes. And for Bill Gates, this is a good thing for the long run. This is his approach. Human suffering is good for the long run. If those are your tactics, what's going to be your endgame?
Starting point is 00:36:00 And the endgame's going to be the same thing. And the carbon that he wants to reduce is, of course, you. Greta Thunberg. You know, how dare you? She comes out. She says, we got to get off carbon and all that stuff. And I'm sitting here and I'm like, OK, I don't like the plastic in the oceans. I don't like the pollution.
Starting point is 00:36:13 You mentioned we don't want our trout getting sick. I'm like, yeah, and I want clean. I want to go out to the wilderness on a hike and see no pollution. I don't like when people throw garbage on the ground and stuff like that. And then I see that she's not talking about China or india at all yeah and they're such massive polluters some of the larger way way more than us she does they don't mention that the u.s actually reduce its carbon substantially more so than these other countries they cut down our energy they drive up our costs they make it harder for the american working class and then overseas they ignore what
Starting point is 00:36:41 everyone else is doing they don't ignore it no no you don't understand it bill gates advises the chinese government he's buddies buddies with the chinese government so he promotes the chinese government he says on national television the chinese zero covid approach is the right approach they should of course create the social credit score he loves what china's doing because at the end of the day it's not about saving the environment that's just a scam that they have on everyone else to conjure up a larger power grab all a part of the great reset i'll throw you one of the hardest hardball questions ever do you like what china is doing heck no i'm watching my language this is a family-friendly show heck no easy question
Starting point is 00:37:16 yeah i i i'm concerned not just about the the lies and the manipulation i'm concerned about you know china seems to be very much invested in us embracing ideologies that are ripping this country apart. So while they're massively expanding, while their population is much larger than ours, while they're sinking Vietnamese fishing vessels, they're polluting like crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Their cities are so full of smog, there's this one video of a screen. Have you seen this one? They have this big TV with a sunny day on it because it's just brown skies. Yeah, and look, I don't want to see that here, but I don't think any of us are talking about that. They're reckless, reckless and unforgiving.
Starting point is 00:37:56 They're buying garbage from Canada. Canada is like, we're recycling. They're buying it and literally just dumping it in the ocean. They're not recycling any of it. And it's a scam. All of it has been a larger scam against the American people, the people of the world. And again, Bill Gates' partnership with China tells you everything you need to know about him and what he's calling for. But it makes you feel good.
Starting point is 00:38:16 I know, right? It's a big PR scam. That's the big problem, man. If you are a moderate, liberal, or libertarian-minded person, and you read the news and say, hey, here's a thing, they call you far right in the media. Yep. If you, like, the big point that I keep trying to drive home here is, they keep saying we've got to reduce carbon while actively trying to buy it overseas, while ignoring the carbon being produced by these other countries, because they're clearly lying. You point that out, and they say it's a right-wing talking point. Yeah, apparently China is building a coal plant
Starting point is 00:38:46 almost every week now. I mean, isn't it a violation of these treaties we have with them or something? It is because we're supposed to sell them, I guess, a carbon tax or whatever. They're supposed to have a certain limit. But for Pennsylvania, we become energy independent
Starting point is 00:38:57 and start being a net exporter. And I call it freedom gas. I mean, that's pretty clean when it burns and it's going to lower costs in our state. What's the so what? It'd be cheaper to live here, inflation would go down, you'd have better jobs, and people would want to live in Pennsylvania. It's funny, Bill Gates, in his
Starting point is 00:39:12 ivory tower, literally preaching it's a good thing, but he won't be affected. He'll still have his private jet and his private cars and his mansions, his giant carbon footprint. You could take away 90% of his wealth, and he's still a billionaire. That's true.
Starting point is 00:39:31 He has a lot of beachfront property for someone who thinks the ocean levels are going to be rising very soon, which is suspicious. And he probably has a bunch of apocalypse bunkers. He's the biggest farmland owner in the United States. He was asked directly, hey, how come you don't institute a lot of your green policies on your farms? He's like, I don't know. We don't have to. And I'm like, he just got called out for his hypocrisy and it's hypocrisy after hypocrisy and epstein's friend here is not a good person and he doesn't have your best interest at heart well so let me ask you when
Starting point is 00:39:55 you're talking a lot about energy uh what natural gas is that specifically what you're able to are you talking everything i'm talking about the three levels. And Rebby and I have been out to a natural grass, a natural gas grass. Grass is good too. Good for the cows. Freedom gas. That's easier for me to say. Rig out in western PA. So three levels. Natural gas is massive in a marshallish shell. And we have
Starting point is 00:40:17 viewed how they extract it. It is safe. The water tables aren't being polluted. They actually put a concrete filter in to block our aquifers from being contaminated from this proprietary formula they use to extract it. And then, of course, coal and oil. The oil is very high grade. I mean, it's the kind of stuff that you use in important machinery. Any thoughts on this? I think they said if they had a plant in Pennsylvania,
Starting point is 00:40:46 they could actually turn that into gas for the cars as well. Yes. Rebby's right. And so I was talking with one of the energy producers, and he's like, all we need is a refinery in Pennsylvania, and we can turn our natural gas to automobile gas. I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. Let's do that.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Into gasoline? Gasoline for our cars. Natural gas into gasoline? Wait, methane into gasoline? I don't know. I didn't ask him for the details, but I just me. Let's do that. Into gasoline? Gasoline for our cars. Natural gas into gasoline? Wait, methane into gasoline? I don't know. I didn't ask for the details. I just said, let's do that. Have you heard about, I think Ian brought this up.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Was it you? That they turn plastic into diesel? Yeah, that was Ian, yes. They found in deoxygenated, high-pressure, high-temperature environments, you can melt plastic back into oil. It needs to be refined into gasoline, but it's going to become a valuable commodity. It's recovering the plastic.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Yeah, what do you think about stuff like that? Would you be interested as governor in exploring other ways to source energy and fuels? We have this stuff sitting around in the garbage heap stinking up. I mean, in the oceans, let's use it that way. You can also upcycle coal into graphene, which is like, I don't know if you're familiar
Starting point is 00:41:42 with graphene as a building. Here we go. Everyone drink. 21st century building material. Everyone drink. 21st century building material. It's like steel. More conductive than copper. It's like a capacitor, like a battery. It's pure carbon. What do you do? You take two sheets of it and you twist it or something?
Starting point is 00:41:56 You can do twistronic graphene. You can take multiple sheets of it and they're layering it on top of each other. It's 1.13 degrees. Eventually, they're making super conductive carbon it's this it's a powder here yeah this is pure carbon and you can hit coal with lasers and turn it into this stuff and then it burns cleaner and then you can turn it into building materials wiring and what's going to happen by 2029 it'll be globally uh this will
Starting point is 00:42:20 become the new it'll be adopted essentially, peak graphene 2029. So if we get on it now and we start producing this stuff early, Ohio University is working on the upscaling of coal pretty heavily into graphene. I would love Pennsylvania to take the lead on something like that. That'd be fantastic. Check this out. Ian brought this up. So Ian's thing is graphene.
Starting point is 00:42:39 He's graph Ian. But graphene is, oh, he's writing it down. Ian, you got one. But here's something really interesting that Ian brought up. At the turn of the century in the 1800s and 1900s in New York, they said that there's going to be horse manure piling 10 feet high. The city will be unlivable. It'll smell. Then the car got invented.
Starting point is 00:42:59 And there was no horse manure at all. It was gone. But there was a lot at the time. Ian brings up a good point that we're talking about global warming with carbon in the atmosphere, but they have carbon capture technology that can pull carbon and they can mine it from the air
Starting point is 00:43:13 to produce a material like graphene. So when we're talking about all this climate change stuff, it really does feel like people are discounting human invention. That we might actually, as Ian points out, have too little carbon in the atmosphere at that point when we start complaining as ian points out have too little carbon
Starting point is 00:43:25 in the atmosphere at that point when we start complaining about it it's getting too cold we'll be able to what you withdraw the carbon dioxide from the atmosphere you can deposit it on metals and then turn it into graphene the carbon you strip the carbon out of the carbon dioxide you can also take methane out of the atmosphere turn it into carbon dioxide and then turn it into graphene what's going to happen is we're going to create an industry where we're mining the air and then we're going to start competing with trees for carbon dioxide. So we've got to be real careful about the way we set this global industry up. Ian's saying burn more gas. Wow, Ian. Got to burn more. It's not a bad idea. If you can capture the carbon right out of the
Starting point is 00:43:55 smokestack, that I think is ideal because you're not introducing. But at the same time, we've got to start cleaning up what's already out there too. I love it, especially since we're the second largest producer of hardwoods in North America. So we've got to balance that, that's for sure. That's amazing. What about sustainability? I mean, this can't last forever. Is there a timetable on how long you'll...
Starting point is 00:44:14 So I looked at a report, and obviously there's a lot of geological interpretation here. They're saying we have about two or three centuries worth of energy underneath our feet in Pennsylvania. Wow. Yeah. But what about two or three centuries later? By then our feet in Pennsylvania. Wow. Yeah. But what about two or three centuries later? By then we're using fusion energy. By then we have graphene and we have Mr. Fusion on the back of our cars like in Back to the Future. Let's talk about crime.
Starting point is 00:44:36 We got this story from the Philadelphia Inquirer. Yes, Wawa's decision to close two stores is a dire statement about public safety in Philadelphia. Despite assertions to the contrary, the move by the locally based convenience store chain speaks volumes about the state of crime in the city. I'll just give you my personal story in the state of crime in the city. We didn't live in Philly. We live just just across the bridge. We're in we're in South Jersey, five minutes away from the bridge when the riots happened and what they call the summer of love. The 529 insurrection.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I thought we were fine. I'm like, well, we're not in Philly. We got the river. There's people aren't going to. No, I heard the helicopters. I heard the sirens. The rioters crossed the bridge. All of a sudden now I'm sitting here thinking,
Starting point is 00:45:21 I'm not going to sit around here and wait for this kind of this level of violence and this crime. So we decided to leave. We came down to the tri-state area here, West Virginia, Harper's Ferry. And since then, what we've seen out of Philadelphia has been horrifying. I mean, as soon as we got out, we saw the story of the guy holed up in his house shooting at cops.
Starting point is 00:45:33 We're hearing just, I mean, you had the Wawa where everyone went in and started ransacking everything. Now Wawa is leaving. We see this in Portland too. They just shut down, I think it's the Pearl District Starbucks, because of crime.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Not that long, it was only a few months ago, they announced 16 other stores nationwide would be shutting down because crime is skyrocketing. So what's going on, man? Why is crime through the roof? What can you do about it? What can we do about it? It's funny. Crime comes up a lot in the federal Senate races, but there's nothing a federal senator
Starting point is 00:46:02 can do at the state level for crime in a state. Exactly. And so it's a bit disingenuous. They talk about, you know, they're going to bring, you know, law and order back. It's like, dude, constitutionally, how do you do that exactly? But a governor has a lot to say about it. The irony is, of course, my opponent is the attorney general. He's been in that job for six years and he's got one job enforcing law and order and he's failed on his watch. You know, John Adams said facts are stubborn things. And so let me just give you some facts i don't do i'm not a politician i don't do sound bites like that but the fact is crime has gone up nearly 40 on his watch statewide statewide wow uh where the
Starting point is 00:46:35 fourth highest in fentanyl deaths uh rebby and i were there in in kensington a couple weeks ago i'll have read describe what our experience there um Homicides we're looking at on track for about 600 this year. It's about 430 as of today. 1,000 carjackings, 4,400 robberies, a couple thousand shootings. The gravediggers in Philadelphia said they can't keep up burying the dead teenagers. And my opponent can't run on this record. And sadly, thank God we have alternate outlets like you guys because the traditional media covers for him. Because if that was a Republican, there'd be breathless reporting
Starting point is 00:47:09 on how this person had failed the people of the state and turned his backs on them. Instead of doing his job and trying to protect the people, we saw the mayhem in the Wawa and the Mayfair district. That's crazy. We saw the shooting after a football game in Roxborough, another safe area of Philly. We saw carjacking outside in Chester County, outside of Philly, of a mom and a daughter going to school and being,
Starting point is 00:47:29 you know, carjacked at, you know, seven o'clock in the morning. Oh, yeah, yeah, I saw that. Yeah, I mean, it's heartbreaking. Real people are suffering. And so what can I do about it? And number one, we're going to become a law and order state because Shapiro is part of the defund the police group. He's friends with BLM and Antifa. So they'll know that their governor has their back. And then secondly, be working with the General Assembly to make sure they're fully funded. We'll expand the number of police we have on the ground. We need more. The people in Kensington and Philadelphia are asking for more presence.
Starting point is 00:47:56 And then finally, I'll be surging special prosecutors in the Philly with the authorization of the House and Senate because there are constitutional powers. Josh Shapiro was given that authorization and he refused to use it. And instead of putting criminals in jail, he's worked with the Wolf administration to release about 10,000. I know Fetterman's getting hit on the head a lot about how he's released, you know, voted to release on the parole board, you know, all these murders and what have you. Josh Shapiro was also on that board. Yeah, look, it's one thing.
Starting point is 00:48:21 There was a tweet I saw. It was Tim Ryan saying he wants to reduce the prison population in Ohio. Immediately, there's this knee-jerk reaction from a lot of people on the right saying like, wow, that's devastating and bad. But the first thing he says is that many of the people he's actually talked about getting out are people who are convicted of murder. Granted, he says, oh, it was a wrong conviction or it was, you know, wrong for this reason or that reason or their protests. Okay, well, that is you talking about people who are convicted of murder. And I fully respect if someone's in, you know, prison and they're innocent and you can prove it, they should be released. It should never happen like that. But it's not the same as, you know, fetterman if he if he wants to come out and say non-violent drug offenses should not be handled this way then i'm like okay all right right on key distinction right the problem is you look at new york and those other places and they're letting out violent offenders there was a there
Starting point is 00:49:17 was a story about a guy who had like committed like 40 robberies laughing saying you keep letting me out and i keep doing it that's's the problem. Yeah, there's an important distinction to make here because personally, I'm for criminal justice reform, especially when it comes to victimless crimes. But at the same time, what they're doing is absolutely absurd. It's absolutely crazy. It's almost as if they really deliberately want to make the situation as unbearable and as bad as possible on the streets. And you see a huge rise in crime,
Starting point is 00:49:45 specifically where George Soros has invested into the attorney generals, into the district attorneys, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like Shapiro got two donations for his campaigns twice from George Soros and has been supported by him. That is a fact. So we are in Kensington,
Starting point is 00:50:03 and that's the only open-air drug market in America. Well, there's a lot more in San Francisco and New York City now and L.A. The biggest one in America. Yeah, and it was heartbreaking because, honestly, for the people that are trying to live there and just be safe and raise a family, there is no safe place. You know, even in their their homes there's shootings and the bullets go in and the kids one grandmother raising five kids by herself said they know the difference between a firecracker and a gunshot you know and they know what to do they know to
Starting point is 00:50:36 run upstairs and lay flat on the floor and i think the youngest one's like five years old the other thing is the school's just locked down because of some sort of crime. And the parents aren't told why the school's locked down. So now your kids, you know, are locked in and not able to come home. But you don't know if it's an internal or an external. You don't know what the problem is. And so there's just a lot of fear that it's instilling into the parents because they don't know every day if their kids are going to come home.
Starting point is 00:51:03 What happens when a school gets locked down? Like how long is gets locked down? How long is it locked down for? I think various times from what she was telling us. We talked to different people when we were down there, but her story was it just keeps happening. It's something that's almost weekly, and it varies. It might just be for an hour because they heard there was something in the vicinity, and so they were trying to keep the kids in before they let them out you know to to head home but you know sometimes it's internal and if
Starting point is 00:51:31 that's the case i don't know how long that might be might be for hours what what i don't get is that when this kind of stuff happens the only thing i hear from you know your modern liberal or leftist is it's the guns that's the problem and i'm like well it's crime it's criminals you know uh pennsylvania is pretty good on gun laws i'm told is that is that is that true yeah i mean it's i don't live there most of the state obviously is strongly advocating for second amendment um you know there's one of the most restrictive cities uh you know in a nation is philadelphia and it hasn't done them very good but it's my understanding is it's still not nearly as restrictive restrictive as all of New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Because I'm living in the Jersey side. That's absolutely true. They're giving you warnings. But I bring this up because this means that I heard a story about people in Philadelphia and they're armed and everything's fine. They go to Jersey and all of a sudden they're getting arrested. And I'm like, wait, regular law-abiding citizens are armed in Philadelphia? Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:21 If you're pulled over, you've got a Pennsylvania plate, don't answer any questions in Jersey if you have a weapon on you. But I mean... I plead the fifth. The issue clearly is not the guns or the gun owners.
Starting point is 00:52:33 The issue is clearly the criminals. And, you know, it's one of the reasons I didn't want to be in New Jersey because of how insane the laws were.
Starting point is 00:52:39 I was told that if someone... Look, I was five minutes from the bridge. We would drive five minutes and you could see Philadelphia. You could look out the window and you could see the buildings and everything. And I was told that if someone, look, I was five minutes from the bridge. We would drive five minutes and you could see Philadelphia. You could look out the window and you can see the buildings and everything. And I was told in Jersey that if someone broke into my house, I had a duty to retreat from my own home in Jersey.
Starting point is 00:52:52 And I'm like, where do you retreat to? Thank you. I'm like, do I jump out the window and run barefoot my boxers down the street? Yes. Because they were like, is that better than killing someone? And I'm like, dude, if someone's threatening my life, I could be out in the winter in my bare feet. That's nuts. So I look at Philadelphia, and I'm told the laws are better.
Starting point is 00:53:10 So we do have the castle doctrine in Pennsylvania, of course. You can only open fire and engage a villain, a potential perpetrator, when they're in your house. And that's when the law is completely in your hand. What about on the porch? Just really quickly. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. On the porch?
Starting point is 00:53:24 Is that in the house? No. It's got to be in the doors? And you've got to make sure it's far enough in that if the gun? Just really quickly, if you, oh, sorry, go ahead. Oh, on the porch? Is that in the house? No. It's gotta be in the doors? And you gotta make sure it's far enough in that if the gunshot throws them back, they're not out, right? So if their hand's on the door,
Starting point is 00:53:32 the door's cracked open, that's not enough? They have to be in before you can engage them. They have to be all the way in. Where was that story where the angry ex-boyfriend, do you see this one,
Starting point is 00:53:40 tried banging on the door and tried breaking the door open and the dad shot through the door? Oh, yes. That wasn't Pennsylvania, was it? I don't think it was. I don't think so. I don't remember that story specifically.
Starting point is 00:53:50 But if you're governor, how would you approach the Second Amendment? What action would you take on it? Well, obviously, we'll become a Second Amendment sanctuary state. I'll be signing into law some of the bills I actually have in. Thank you. I like that. And so I'll be signing into law. I don't know if I'll go far as nukes, but clearly not.
Starting point is 00:54:07 I was telling him before the show how I'm like, hey man, the Second Amendment says arms and we have to amend it if we want to get specific. Would you be okay for constitutional carry? Absolutely. And actually I'm a co-sponsor of that bill in the Senate. Great man. Awesome. Good word.
Starting point is 00:54:22 We're constitutional carrying West Virginia. It's fantastic. It needs to be that way. And I don't even get why we have a Second Amendment right. And I have to pay 25 bucks to get a license every couple of years. It's absurd. Are you kidding me? Additionally, I have a bill and I'm a prime sponsor of an Senate law. I hope to sign the law when I'm governor. I will actually.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Where I will prohibit law enforcement within Pennsylvania from cooperating with the Federals if Joe Biden comes in to enforce unconstitutional laws on the second amendment nice man yeah so the nuclear weapons thing is uh it's more of a cultural point using something that's that's relatively shocking first uh yeah private companies private entities can have nukes i mean you've got major uh weapons manufacturers that fill out the forms i forgot what it's called we talked to a guy who had an FFL and he explained there's a form for nuclear weapons. And when the Second Amendment was written, you could have a frigate, you could have a man o' war, you could have a private warship, and you could actually contract with the government. And that's what we have today
Starting point is 00:55:16 with private military contractors and weapons manufacturers. So I think if people are concerned about a private citizen getting access to biological and nuclear weapons, instead of just deciding one day that the Constitution doesn't matter, we should actually say, okay, well, let's amend the Constitution as we were supposed to do. It's more of a point that over a long enough period of time, people seem okay with the fact that the Constitution has been eroded. That's the whole point, I think. That's probably the most important thing that I've heard today, is that we're seeing infringements on our rights through uh you know a thousand little cuts here and there and instead of doing the right thing and saying okay do you have a second amendment right or not and and approaching it from a constitutional amendment process it's being circumvented by by laws and by bureaucrats and bureaucracy and what have you and additionally another piece of legislation
Starting point is 00:56:02 i'll be signing law of course reciprocity, recognizing people's right from other states coming through. That's amazing. I'm glad to hear it. I love the constitutional carry stuff. It's too easy. It's very clear to me. I mean, so we know what the U.S. Constitution says,
Starting point is 00:56:13 you know, should not be infringed. The Pennsylvania Constitution says that your right to keep and bear arms should not be questioned. Wow. Really? Yes. That's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Legal law-abiding citizens shouldn't be treated like criminals. It's a simple idea. So constitutional carry, but let's get a little into the nitty-gritty, I guess. What about limitations on magazine size? If you're saying it's a sanctuary state, how does that apply to, say, the NFA, like selective fire rifles, fully automatic weapons? I mean, honestly, I haven't gone that far, but I am troubled by the limitations
Starting point is 00:56:45 because we've even seen Joe Biden talk about handguns, you know, and having more than six rounds. That would be a revolver. He doesn't even know what he's talking about half the time. Yeah, seriously. That it's illegal,
Starting point is 00:56:55 that you could be arrested in New Jersey because you have a 30-round magazine. Are you kidding me? I mean, really? I mean, most veterans have some of those left over from the M16 days. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:57:04 And not just that, there was a viral video where it was in Italy, I think. You're only allowed to have three rounds. And this individualist woman, I think it was a woman, got attacked by a boar and then fired three times and the boar did not stop. Oh, crap. And so people are like, this is why. But you look at what happened. Someone tweeted, you know, what am I supposed to do when 30 to 50 feral hogs come into my yard?
Starting point is 00:57:24 And then all of the liberal anti-gun people are laughing as if it's not a real problem. And it is. They don't understand, you know, people get in helicopters and fly around having to cull the boar population because they're dangerous and they destroy the environment. But these people don't understand that. They live in New York where there is no boar problem and then vote for you to be hobbled when you do have a bore problem. You know, it's nice when you're living in a, you know, in a little bubble somewhere, you know, and, you know, safe and cozy and you have good Wi-Fi and, you know, good transportation and you have a private jet. The rest of us, so it's kind of, you mentioned a bore and we lived in Germany for 10 years. And so I was out with our son and a couple of
Starting point is 00:58:00 his friends when they were little kids and it's an old quarry in Germany. And all of a sudden, this bore came jumping off the top of the quarry in Germany. All of a sudden, this boar came jumping off the top of the quarry and bounded off the walls and came straight for us. All the kids were running. I'm like, what do you do? I stepped on a rock and stared at it. It lifted its snout, looked me in the eyes, and then
Starting point is 00:58:17 veered away. It worked. They said, stare the animal down. He veered right in front of me. Did you make your shoulders big or anything? I'm just naturally big that way. How tall are you? 6'2". But I was standing on a rock because I hopped on a rock so it increased my height and he did veer away.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Do you think there's value to having different gun laws in cities and in rural areas? Or do you just kind of keep it? I don't. I do believe that the second amendment should be consistent across whether you're city or rural. You know, lawlessness in Philly. I mean, if that mom had a sidearm with her and a carjacker came,
Starting point is 00:58:53 she could have put him out of his misery instead of being terrorized and what have you. I honestly think there wouldn't be a carjacking because people would be like, I better not even try because then this woman's probably on. I remember in the 70s, I had an aunt that lived in Florida
Starting point is 00:59:04 and we go visit her down in Vero Beach and we were told don't beep at people back then because this woman's probably armed. I remember in the 70s, I had an aunt that lived in Florida. We'd go visit her down in Vero Beach. And we were told, don't beep at people back then because they might just shoot you. Yeah, an armed society is a polite society. We have to understand. It's basic principle. You respect other people. You don't freak out.
Starting point is 00:59:17 You don't curse at people. You don't try to attack people. You don't try to steal their stuff or violate their rights. And as long as you do that, you'll be fine. But again, we also have to understand the criminals will always find guns. They will always have things like machine guns. They will always have
Starting point is 00:59:31 30-round magazines. And if the general public is limited to, let's say, five rounds, right? A criminal knows that when he's robbing a store, oh, the clerk only has five rounds. So if I'm in a shootout with him, one shot, two shot, three shot, four shot, five shot, he has to reload.
Starting point is 00:59:46 My turn to get him now. And it puts the average citizen at a disadvantage when criminals who don't follow the law anyway will violate it and of course will use it in order to justify
Starting point is 00:59:55 the punishment against the average law-abiding human being. I'm not even, I'm just tired of even hearing it and saying it because it is basic arithmetic. It is so rudimentary it is
Starting point is 01:00:06 one plus one equals two if citizens can't have guns and criminals are already breaking the law you're basically just saying the people who don't care about the law can carry weapons it's it's just one plus one equals two and everybody listening to the show knows it everybody at this table knows it and we keep saying it but it doesn't resonate with these people who are trying to ban guns, that the people, only law-abiding people are going to pay attention to those laws. I just, how do you solve this? In the bottom line, do we have a Second Amendment right or not? And if we don't, then do a constitutional convention and not come here and slowly strip away these rights here and there.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Because you're right. When you take the weapons away from the innocent, from the citizens, of course, then only the criminals will be armed. And we've seen that over and over again. You look at Chicago. I'm from Chicago. The wild, wild west, man. And this is why I always tell my friends who aren't from the city why you don't get involved in road rage incidents. Why, like, I'll be driving with a friend and someone will cut him off
Starting point is 01:01:05 and start wailing on the horn and flipping him off and I'll be like, you want to die? Because you never know if who you're flipping off is going to be some gangbanger who's looking for trouble. It's a city where the criminals,
Starting point is 01:01:15 the people who are intent on committing crimes or who outright just don't care about the law are the ones who are armed. You never know. So it's funny. An armed society is a polite society. Well, in that respect, in Chicago, don't pick fights unless you know for sure. Don't pick fights outright. And then don't get into a fight unless you know your circumstances. So what I mean by
Starting point is 01:01:38 that is if someone is getting up in your face and they're threatening you, the fight you've always won is the fight you've avoided, is the saying chicago is a place where i've seen people get into fights that it's just like you want to talk smack about me you know put up your dukes and the guy was okay and pulls out a gun and that and they're going to be criminals and the other issue is if they have a gun these people are more likely to to hurt you with it as opposed to your law-abiding citizen who does not want that fight so that's why i've you know especially growing up in chicago i've just been like we'd be better off if the people were scared to come near me to commit a crime because i'd be armed because i'm telling you all the criminals are armed as it is they make videos of themselves
Starting point is 01:02:18 waving the guns around and all we can do is cower and cross our fingers and hope they're not going to shoot us that's how crazy it gets. For the most part, you don't got to worry about getting shot in Chicago. A lot of people seem to think that because it's really bad, you're like walking down the street and bolts are flying everywhere. I'll tell you how bad it is. It's south side of Chicago, going to bed and hearing gunshots. It's getting a call from your friend and saying, I'm seeing some guy drag a body down the alley. Those things actually happened in my life.
Starting point is 01:02:49 It's getting off of 290 on independence and then someone driving past just pointing a gun and shooting at my car for no reason that's what chicago is like but those are a handful of incidents in the 20 plus years when i before i finally moved out so you know some people have this idea that you go to chicago and then every day you're going to be getting shot at. No, but should you ever, you're not going to be happy about it, right? So something's got to change. Let's jump to this next story. Let's get national with it. From TimCast.com, evidence implicating Hunter Biden in 459 crimes was just sent to every member of Congress. The report was produced following a 13-month investigation into material
Starting point is 01:03:25 found on his laptop. The file was sent to all 535 members of Congress on October 20th and includes 140 alleged business-related crimes, 191 sex-related offenses, and 128 drug-related crimes, according to The Sun. It was also sent to district attorneys and U.S. attorneys for the jurisdiction in which the alleged crimes occurred. Okay, here's my question. Is anything going to happen? Let's break down the crimes. You want to go through all the crimes? Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Give me some of the hot ones. There's a lot of photos and videos that you could see. No, no. How about you watch them? Maybe I'll do that in my room alone. I think he's been just living the criminal lifestyle. And I think not all crime is evil. If there's an evil law, you have a duty to violate that illegal, that horrific law, like in Nazi Germany, for instance.
Starting point is 01:04:17 But I think he's just been dodging it because his dad's the VP and now the president. And maybe he's got what's coming to him. If he's been hurting people, especially. If he's been hurting himself, I don't know. I think the reason Hunter has gotten away with so much is because at the highest level, the DOJ is effectively politicized. So you look at stories like this,
Starting point is 01:04:37 and you wonder why. Why is this guy not getting arrested? But let's break it down to actually a more personal level. Let's just say, fine, you don't want to talk about the Biden family. Let's talk about the pregnancy centers that were firebombed. You saw that story?
Starting point is 01:04:50 Yes. Were any of those in Pennsylvania? I don't believe so. Because I know one right over here, like not that far away. We actually had one of our reporters go drive out to it. These people, nothing.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I'm not hearing anything. And that's a terrorist attack, as far as I'm concerned. It's terrorism. And nothing. But what do we hear. And that's a terrorist attack. It's terrorism. And nothing. But what do we hear about these pro-lifers? You talked about Mark Houck and how one Saturday, three weeks ago, four weeks ago,
Starting point is 01:05:12 about 30 agents showed up with 15 cars on an early morning. We call that a night raid in Afghanistan. We'd help plan these ops where we'd take down tough, armed terrorists that have killed people and then send in special operators, about 30 or so,
Starting point is 01:05:26 usually earlier in the morning than 7. But we do that not proportionally towards a pro-lifer because he got in a shouting match with an opponent of his position and apparently the guy was cussing over his kid and so Mark pushed him. And the lower court threw the case out
Starting point is 01:05:39 and now the feds are going to come in with overwhelming force. That's obviously political. I had never dreamt in my lifetime we'd see the Department of Justice and potentially the FBI being politicized so much. Because we have firebombing of crisis pregnancy centers, but then nothing happens in defending their rights. But, of course, it's heavy-handed abuse. And we saw two priests arrested up in New York State now as well for being pro-life and praying outside a clinic. Praying?
Starting point is 01:06:04 Praying. I mean, it should not be surprising. My opponent, Josh Shapiro, instead of fighting for our rights during a shutdown, he sued the Little Sisters of the Poor. I mean, he sued nuns. Who sues nuns over a religious issue? Twice. Twice.
Starting point is 01:06:15 This seems like an overt violation of the First Amendment. Look, if they're going to make an argument about an assault or something, it's like, sure, but a federal case out of it? I mean, that's the meme. Don't make a federal case out of it. It was a local protest. We used to have back in the day, I mean, maybe this is just a trope, and maybe there's a reason to complain about it,
Starting point is 01:06:31 but people get into bar fights, and the cops would be like, go home, guys. You're wasting everybody's time with this. These days, you make a federal case out of it. Yep, and they are. And that's very chilling, too. What's interesting, Tim, is that the Democrats said blacklisted 21 Republicans a year and a half ago, two years ago. And I was number one in their hit list for some reason. They thought I was going to derail their plans in Pennsylvania, which we will. And they colluded with the media. This came out in the Salon article. This is not conspiracy. It's a fact. They admitted the DNC and DLCC, Democrat Legislative Campaign Committee, they worked with the media to try to take me down. And it didn't work.
Starting point is 01:07:07 It made me more popular, actually. But I think most people, though, seeing ad hominem attacks and people attacking your character and your work and your books, your dissertation, your service, that it mostly would drive people just to sit down and shut up. And that's the problem they have with me. That's why the media is so frustrated and aggravated, because I won't shut up. And that's the problem they have with me. That's why the media is so frustrated and aggravated because I won't shut up because in Rebby and I, 30 years in the army, moving around the world to 12 years out of the country, 10, 12 moves. I had a sweet job lined up. I was going to
Starting point is 01:07:35 ride off in the sunset and a comfortable retirement. And I could not do that because your generation was getting the country from me worse off than how I got it from my dad. And that's my motivation. And they're not, they're used to politicians being a bunch of cowards, and I ain't going anywhere. We're going to win on November 8th, and we're going to turn the corner on this. Can I ask you how old you are? 58. 58.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Y'all were supposed to give us flying cars. We were. Here comes George Jetson. We got recession in 2008. Now we got economic crises. But, no, I can appreciate you standing up. I could not walk away from it, and I could have. I had the sweet job making a lot more than a senator makes. But it's not about the money. I fought for these freedoms. I defended these
Starting point is 01:08:13 freedoms. I love my country. I love it so much that I was willing to lay down my life for it. No hero. But it was heartbreaking to me. I struggled with that. Rebby can tell you, I was having trouble leaving the Army. I got too old. I reached colonel. That's as high as I can get in my career field. There's no generals in the field that I work. And what I just said, I said to a young man at a radio station. He looked over at me, and I'm in uniform, about to retire. And he said, well, colonel, why don't you do something about it?
Starting point is 01:08:38 And I was like, ouch, that hurt. I'm hearing that your opponent's not going to debate you. He refuses to see me on the stage. Why? Why? He's a freaking coward. He's got nothing to run on, so he's hiding. I mean, here you are sitting down with us.
Starting point is 01:08:52 You have no idea what we're going to talk about, what stories we're going to pull up. It's been an hour. We've had Kerry Lake on. We've had a bunch of Republicans. I'll give a shout out to Jen Perlman, a Democrat in Florida who also came on. It was great. We disagreed on a lot of things. And it's just so difficult to get Democrats and leftist activists.
Starting point is 01:09:12 There's like two that that we've had on the show more than once. Shout out to Vosh for everybody who doesn't like him. Hey, man, he's willing to come here and argue with us. But they won't even debate. They won't they won't debate you. I think Katie Hobbs, the same thing. She's not debating here. Not debating in Arizona, not debating in Wisconsin,
Starting point is 01:09:27 not debating in Maryland. Right here, Dan Cox, he's a good friend. He's going to be a great governor here, and his opponent's not debating him either. Wow. You know what I think it is? Honestly, the truth would hurt their campaigns. Yep.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Agree. Of course. That's it. They need to keep people in a tight space where there is a controlled narrative, and I'm going to, you know, I'm sorry, beat the dead horse, They need to keep people in a tight space where there is a controlled narrative. And I'm going to, you know, I'm sorry, beat the dead horse, but they will come out and claim we've got to reduce carbon emissions while Joe Biden's dumping the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, which is keeping petroleum flowing, and then go and bag, you know, our rivals for oil. They clearly want the oil.
Starting point is 01:10:02 They're just lying to you about it. I think you say something like that in debate and they go, hey, wait a minute. That's why they don't want to have a debate. First thing you bring up, among a bunch of other things. I mean, you can talk about the riots. They want to talk about January 6. You say, OK, well, 529, there were a bunch of riots. They firebombed a guard post at the White House. These are the things that the media doesn't want to talk about. And if the media is not advancing the narrative, well i'll put it this way they don't need to enter a enter a situation where their constituents will hear anything outside of their controlled narrative that's exactly it how do you how do you break through to regular
Starting point is 01:10:34 people then confront them meet them on the street be like that's what i did uh but but hey i mean what other way then go face to face but like hey you won't debate me let's have a conversation right here right right now. Let the American people decide. And I think we need more conversations. And the fact that we don't have conversations, we're losing our civility because of that. Because when you're able to look someone eye to eye,
Starting point is 01:10:55 this is the reason why we do the show in person here. There's an energy. There's no bull crap. There's no nonsense. You say something I disagree with, I'm going to call you out on it. But I still respect a human being if they come from a different perspective and experience.
Starting point is 01:11:10 But when you're not able to face somebody, you're able to vilify them a lot easier. And I think we're reaching a point in this country where it's becoming very, very dangerous to how partisan everyone is. It is chilling. So how do I get the message out? And so Facebook, of course, clamped down on me back on October 17, 2020.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Wow. I had the greatest reach on that platform for somebody in politics. I'm not a politician. But despite that, and so because of that, I can't boost posts. But despite that, I'm the number one in the nation over Democrat and everyone else on reach and Facebook because we told people how we circumvent it. You share. You share to your pages. Manually share.
Starting point is 01:11:48 And so social media is one way. Rebby and I have traveled the entire state, every single county several times, meeting people eyeball to eyeball. The past couple of years, we probably shook 100,000 hands. I don't even know. And taking time-
Starting point is 01:11:59 We've been doing it for two years because of all that's been going on with COVID and just people were hopeless in Pennsylvania. And so we get invited to all these different counties and events and things. And so we went. You guys would have a great YouTube show, the two of you guys co-hosting it, talking about policy and stuff. I love it. You know, Rebby's our secret weapon on the campaign here. I mean, it's fantastic. I'm the introvert that is sacrificing and using a microphone when I would rather not. The guy down in Mexico does this.
Starting point is 01:12:31 He does his daily speeches or whatever. Where, like, what's his name? Obrador? I'm not super familiar. But he, like, or maybe, I don't know if he's still there. But I remember, you know, being told he, like, comes out of the balcony every day and talks about what's going on and just, like, lays it out. He's very blunt, very personable. This is the future of people want this.
Starting point is 01:12:48 They want authenticity. They want real conversations. They don't want sound bites. They don't want talking points. They just want to be like, give it to me straight. I think one of the challenges is that there's the left and the right, but it's like a new kind of left and right. I grew up in Chicago, very liberal. now they call me conservative and stuff whatever but i think the difference is you can tell me painful truths i'll hear it and maybe i'll be like well it's a good
Starting point is 01:13:14 point man i don't know how you solve that problem we have we have conversations about pro-life pro choice and you know uh seamus a good friend of ours he's a catholic conservative very pro-life we would have arguments and then and then we'd laugh and tell jokes to each other. Because we can get along. We can live together. We're willing to hear things we don't like or don't agree with. We're willing to argue. The divide now is between people who just don't want to hear it at all.
Starting point is 01:13:34 There's something about politics where a lot of it's like managing morale, I think, as a politician or as a leader or something. And if things are bad, and you come out and tell everyone, hey, things are bad, bad they might panic and then that makes things worse so you want to be like no everything's fine but then that's can be a lie and you're like i don't want to lie to people but so what do you do you just keep like a like a positive mindset about the problems and like this is the solution yeah i'm glad you brought that up go ahead no well i was just gonna say we we try to point people to the fact that it doesn't have to be this way. And we try to encourage them. Each one of you can do something.
Starting point is 01:14:09 And if we all come together and we all we're all going to like you're just saying, you know, we're all going to have different backgrounds, different opinions. But if we can all agree to come together on some issues, we can make a difference. And that was that was one of the big ways of encouraging people and to watch out for each other right like to remember you know um you know be your neighbor's keeper kind of thing you know if somebody's struggling you know help them out you know and a lot of people came together and met during um the pandemic tell them about the fireside. Yeah, at our rally. So we started a fireside, Doug started a fireside chat because people were so confused with our shutdown in Pennsylvania because it was so random how it was happening. And businesses couldn't figure out like,
Starting point is 01:14:57 can I stay open or am I on the list that has to close? And what's that look like? And so anyway, Doug got on every night for about a half hour and just kind of laid out the latest here here's the list and he sometimes was just reading through all the the rules and talking to people and people were asking questions hey I have a hair salon so seriously I can't be open you know but the abortion clinics are open but I can't cut hair I mean you know it, it was like people just wanted to know, well, what's going on? Why is that going on? And then Doug was able to get his staff working.
Starting point is 01:15:32 His staff did not turn anyone down. They even got calls at 2 a.m. They did not turn anyone away from the entire state. They didn't just take care of the 33rd District. They were taking calls. And one of them was actually talking to a lady in philadelphia during the time you were talking about with all the burning and everything she lived above a store and she could hear him crashing and breaking everything and
Starting point is 01:15:55 nobody was answering and she called his number got some of his staff and she said the police won't come what do i do and so the staff stayed on the phone with her until it quieted down because she was a she was fearful for her life and they they they're lying about what happened with those riots it's it's just it's the craziest thing to me and uh again it's probably why they don't want to debate why we're seeing it across the board because you talk about the property damage the billions of dollars that i've seen these uh these these talking points where they'll say oh there's only a few neighborhoods some viral tweet among a democrat personality said oh the right wants to claim that the country was burning during
Starting point is 01:16:34 major riots but it was only a few neighborhoods it was actually really small towns it was it was widespread rampant and everywhere for whatever reason you want it you want to say it was because people were angry about george floyd or you want to say it was because people were angry about George Floyd or you want to say they were angry because they were locked up because of COVID? Regardless, Michael Tracy, journalist, he went to these small towns all over the country that people didn't know about. And he saw the same thing, boarded up windows, spray paint, please don't hurt us. We support you.
Starting point is 01:16:58 Please leave us alone. It's nightmarish. And there's never really been any kind of reconciliation or um apology or admission in fact the biden administration joe biden staffers were donating to bail these people out that's right kamala harris was fundraising to bail these people out it's just this simple crime freaks me out i don't want to have to worry about it look for me we we were swatted here i think we got like 13 swattings you. Are you familiar with swattings? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:17:26 So we have to deal with that. Doing a high-profile show, of course, we're going to have security concerns. So naturally, with crime going up, it matters a lot to me. If I'm going to go to a place and it's already that we have security concerns, I don't want to think about that.
Starting point is 01:17:39 But it's really simple. On some of the biggest issues, the economy, the cost of goods, and crime, you've got Democrats who have actually supported and bailed out rioters and criminals, advocated for letting out convicted murderers, and then on gas prices, Joe Biden actually campaigned on getting us off fossil fuels. So I just tell people, look, there's a lot of things you can complain about culturally. There's a lot of cultural issues.
Starting point is 01:18:06 You want to talk about pro-life versus pro-choice. I hear you. But right now, I know what's hurting you the most, and it's your gas prices are making it hard enough. You can't even get to work. If you can't get to work, how are you going to have a job? Then because of the cost of gas going up, you can't now buy goods. They're saying, I saw a report. I think it was CNBC.
Starting point is 01:18:24 We've got 25 days left in the U.S. diesel supply. I think it's distillate supply. Now, that doesn't mean we're going to run out. It just means it's the lowest it's been since 2008. These things don't have to be this way. That's right. I understand a lot of people may be concerned about, you know, other issues in the culture war, but you can't complain about crime and gas and then vote for Democrats.
Starting point is 01:18:49 It's not just the culture war. I would say it's more of a psychological war. Former KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov, when talking about psychological warfare, subversion and control of Western society, said specifically, quote, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him, And I think that quote definitely rings true today with our modern society, especially with the mass amounts of kind of hypnosis, mind control that is really out there, which some people have described as fifth-generation warfare. Now, how do we overcome that? I think it's a lot harder than just said. Well, let's give people something to live for.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Let me ask you about what's going on in these schools. So we saw this in Virginia. Ian's actually got one of these books. These are books that are rated. This one right here, Gender Queer. Gender Queer. I don't know if you guys have seen this. We had that in my testimony two days ago in the Senate in Harrisburg.
Starting point is 01:19:45 18 and up on Amazon. But these books are in grade school libraries. And when parents simply say, hey, this material is not appropriate for my kid, they get kicked out of these meetings. They get told not to speak. They get the boot. And then we're told just that this is the kind of stuff that grade school kids should have access to. So was there something that happened recently with you guys? Or just tell me what your thoughts are.
Starting point is 01:20:06 We had a hearing in Harrisburg and brought in several testifiers, several moms from the southeastern part of the state. And one of the moms had a stack about 10 different books. And she read from one of them, which was completely disgusting. It's repugnant. It's that bad. Do you remember which book specifically this one was? I don't.
Starting point is 01:20:25 She read it. It was so bad that the you remember which book specifically this one was? I don't. She read it. It was so bad that the committee chair said, okay, we understand now. But the pictures in some of those books that she had there are extremely graphic, and it's for elementary ed kids. And if you and I shared that materials with underage people, that would be an offense. We'd be arrested. That's right. It's disgusting.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Josh Shapiro, my opponent, supports that being in the libraries. We actually had a bill that would protect kids from obscene material in the schools, age-appropriate books, and it was called book banning by the Democrats, and our Democrat governor, Wolf, vetoed it, and my opponent cheered. On the same side here, they celebrate, of course, gender
Starting point is 01:20:59 pronoun games in our schools. Our schools are becoming really a culture war clash in Pennsylvania. Because they know if they can indoctrinate the kids, they get votes in 18 years, 10 years. And the kids are told not to tell their parents if they're transitioning or which pronouns they're using, and the parents will get on board later on. Levine is part of this. The great Dr. Levine, our Secretary of Health in Pennsylvania now, the second most powerful health official in the nation here, and Admiral now,
Starting point is 01:21:25 Woman of the year. You can't make this stuff up. I mean, these people talk about defending women's rights, but they can't even define what a woman is now. I mean, it's just insane. Yeah, Matt Walsh is doing,
Starting point is 01:21:33 I think he's doing a screening tour. I know he's got a big rally in Tennessee. But you see Matt Walsh's documentary, What is a Woman? Yep. I mean, that's it right there. Look, I'm all uh making sure people are living happy happy and healthy lives for for the trans community but we're talking about now is
Starting point is 01:21:51 it's a simple issue parents saying hey me personally i don't think it is right for my children to read a book that shows graphic sexual depictions and they're being called book burners fascists transphobes. Domestic terrorists, if you talk too loud in a school board meeting. Something's really weird about that. There is. You know what I would just say?
Starting point is 01:22:14 You can ask, well, if you ever get the chance, because he's not going to debate you, you can just ask him, do you think banning Playboy would be book bannings? Is that a banning a book to ban Hustler from schools? We're not talking about telling kids they can't read ideas. It's specifically that these are adult-oriented things. You know, it's one thing if you're like,
Starting point is 01:22:34 and actually I brought this up with, I can't remember who I brought it up with. We have a lot of guests. The Bible has certain depictions in it that are actually adult and graphic. And my attitude is, yeah, the parents should be there talking with their kids and deciding if they want their kids to be reading certain things. I don't care where it is.
Starting point is 01:22:50 I don't care if it's a religious text or if it's a book. The idea that teachers will decide for the parents and the parents have no say somehow equates to book bannings is ludicrous. And we see the videos on the lives of TikTok. They're using their platform to indoctrinate. And that's an abuse of power there. You're they're using their platform to indoctrinate. And that's an abuse of power there. You're there to educate, not to indoctrinate.
Starting point is 01:23:11 We want to teach kids, you know, how to think, not what to think. And that's a dangerous trend here. And now that there's a push to force the parents out of their kids' lives in their education, in their choices and what have you, in their understanding, in their worldview, that's troubling. You know, we started off this conversation about, you know, Lieutenant Mastriano serving in the Iron Curtain, you know, defending against the godless system that Ronald Reagan described. And in those days, during the Soviet Empire, of course, schools were used to indoctrinate, to socialize and indoctrinate according to the edicts of the rulers. And I remember being, I'm so glad it's not like that in America,
Starting point is 01:23:44 but we're seeing that coming here in America. Are you familiar with ESG? I am. So that's, I view that as like the Chinese Communist Party, but for the Western version. They've got, the Chinese Communist Party has an office in all of their major companies so that they have political control with how these companies operate. ESG is basically the same same thing it's a workaround to get ideology into the business you know what though i think it's not working i think we're seeing the backlash there are many states i think west virginia cut ties with uh businesses based on esg what was this story you want you want to pull that one up yeah i think we talked about it recently they said that they wouldn't do business with a specific
Starting point is 01:24:23 company based on... Penalizes major companies for embracing ESG. West Virginia did that. There you go. About four months ago. Good. Does the governor have the authority? Would you be interested in...
Starting point is 01:24:33 Yes, I do. And we do need to elect a Republican General Assembly. That's just a constitutional factor. But to me, together with the Republican General Assembly, we can cut off ties with businesses or not invest in China or Russia or companies that work against our ideas and ideals. I wonder if the same goes for free speech supporting the First Amendment and social media companies that take control of the commons. Since I've been on the receiving end, you know, much as you guys have been on some of
Starting point is 01:24:59 the censorship here, which is just repugnant to me, you know, who's deciding what right and wrong is on some of these issues we've debated over the past couple of years, which we won't bring up because we're going to be banned on some of the platforms, ironically. But I have introduced legislation that would make these social media platforms culpable and subject to being sued by citizens in Pennsylvania
Starting point is 01:25:15 if that passes. Obviously, I'll sign it into law. And they cannot screen speech that they just don't simply like. That's basically what they do. My thoughts are that we need to force these companies to free their software code so that other developers can pick up
Starting point is 01:25:30 a copy of Twitter and launch their own Twitter that they then interoperate. Because if you start telling private companies what they have to do, it feels like fashion. It's like, I don't want the government. But if people don't like Twitter's terms of service because they're getting banned, they go to the other Twitter and then they can still view.
Starting point is 01:25:46 You've swayed me halfway, Ian. Excellent. I don't agree with this idea of, so here's how I view it. You free the software code. Basically, you make the code for the program available to everybody to make their own. I don't like that. It's kind of like if you build something, then someone's allowed to copy off your work and that's like an IP and copyright thing. However, I still think freeing
Starting point is 01:26:05 the code is something we probably have to do because of the algorithms. Because we don't know how Facebook is experimenting on us and we know they do. This was a big story. Facebook actually was experimenting on people. They were purposefully sending happy content and hurtful content to people to see how they would react. And sure enough, when they flooded someone's feed with depressing content, they became depressed. That is psychotic. Well, they were launching psychological experiments on unsuspecting users
Starting point is 01:26:30 who didn't know that they were participating in a program that manipulated the algorithm to see how they could manipulate their emotions. So that's some larger psychological warfare that's happening that, of course, they're seeing what they could get away with. They're seeing how far they could manipulate a human being. If you can make someone feel sad you can make someone
Starting point is 01:26:47 believe a particular idea that's godlike power and authority that i think should be absolutely put in check and i i kind of agree with tim more than i do with ian and with ian because we need to understand what's happening behind the scenes what is in the algorithm who's being promoted who's being demoted who's getting a fair share of viewership? Whose ideas are being shared? Which ideas are being censored? And more importantly, make the code of conduct simple and enforceable. Don't make it vague. Don't make it general. Don't punish people. Don't delete their livelihood. Don't take them away from the market of ideas just because they expressed an idea and you're going to use an overall vague term in order to destroy their ability to communicate. That is draconian. That is evil. And a lot of these companies have ties to governments, ties to intelligence agencies, especially with their start. So how do you tackle that as a governor? That's a hard question. Yeah. And there's not an easy solution. Ian, I mean, it's a tough one. We want to protect free speech, clearly. We want to have a free exchange of ideas, and we've been clamped down in so many areas.
Starting point is 01:27:46 I'm not going to even mention all the topics. People know what they are. But at what point, when they start threatening violence or what have you, as we've seen before, who determines where the line is? I mean, it was so much easier when we were growing up. I mean, free speech, if you said something to someone that they didn't like, you duke it out.
Starting point is 01:28:03 You just punch each other, and then it's resolved on the spot. For instance, Ethan Klein just got banned off YouTube, a seven-day ban or something, for saying that he thought Ben Shapiro should be more gassed, I think. He said, if there is another kind of Holocaust, that he hopes Ben Shapiro is the first one. And it was a joke, but it was a very poorly veiled joke. And it was sort of like not a direct call to violence it's not illegal because it's not um you know what do they call it when it's like you need a time and a place you say it should happen on this time it's in this place that's illegal that's
Starting point is 01:28:35 imminent it wasn't an imminent threat but these these veiled threats are enough for social media companies a lot of times in their terms to be like that's not allowed here i don't agree i think it's it's first amendment protected speech it is violent it can incite violence though so that's a problem look i want to i want to just address this one just a little bit we didn't get into it but i don't think ethan klein should have been suspended uh i even said it the other day when we went over the comments in the first place but the fact that he's trying to claim it's a joke it's like dude yeah come on you should have said it was a joke after he said it right in the same breath man if you're gonna do a joke like that he said at first he said it was a joke before he was even allowed to say it before his team like
Starting point is 01:29:11 immediately kind of shut him down so right right but my point is like when you when you hate someone and insult them and rag on them no one's gonna accept it as a joke right it's just not like if i came out and said something like that about aoc. I'm just kidding, man. Come on, dude. We're heavily critical of her. I called her a con artist and a grifter repeatedly today. I wish her nothing but happiness and a long life because I don't want pain, suffering, and violence. So I'm not going to even joke about it. But who would accept it anyway?
Starting point is 01:29:39 What was it? There used to be like FCC regulations that you couldn't go on ABC News and say something like that. And now the FCC doesn't what's that I think a lot of the restrictions on the media
Starting point is 01:29:49 have been lifted have been like rules have been changed that's allowing a lot more of this garbage so we had a FCC would say
Starting point is 01:29:57 like yeah it's legal but it's not allowed on the network but now there's no it's not allowed on the network talking it's up to these private
Starting point is 01:30:03 companies instead of the FCC it's definitely illegal it's not allowed on the network talking. It's up to these private companies instead of the FCC. It's definitely illegal. It's legal to do it. But whether or not it's righteous, I don't know, or justified or any of that. I err on the side of free speech personally. But if you say, well, someone rid me of this priest, and then the priest gets killed. Yeah, I don't think that should be banned yeah i don't think you should i don't think that should be banned i don't think what ethan klein said should get him banned i think
Starting point is 01:30:29 we should all get to hear it and then be like wow that was gross you know but if he if he thinks it's a joke and he thinks it's funny that's fine i kind of think that you know look people are allowed to tell jokes i'm not gonna i'm not gonna get a comedian fired because he said he said jokes i don't like i'm just gonna be like no watch something else that else. That's the thing. I don't think they understand. Right now, Ethan's attacking or being very critical of Ben Shapiro because Ben said, if another Holocaust happens, I hope Ethan and his family escape,
Starting point is 01:30:54 but that's just me. And then he's like, these fascists, they don't get it, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, dude, when the people on the left say that we should ban comedians, censor people, and shut them down, that's extremism. That's authoritarianism. I don't think y'all should be banned because it's simple i'm an adult and i'll be like i'll watch something else he's a comedian he's not funny because he says mean things about me it's like okay i'll just watch something else i co-founded
Starting point is 01:31:14 minds the social network minds and uh it's basically first amendment it's it's whatever's legal in connecticut is legal on the site you have weird rules like spam, which don't exist in the Constitution, that you've got to kind of make... Yeah, there's interesting things. Doxing, for instance. Yes. That's First Amendment protected, but I don't think it should be allowed. Yeah, I agree. That's a challenge, though, then, right?
Starting point is 01:31:39 Because if you want to uphold the First Amendment, people are allowed to hold up your address on a placard. I mean, the white pages used to do it. Now we try to keep it a little bit more private so what do you do i just think i i think it's there's one rule i'm like yeah doxing you know we can ban that yeah yeah definitely on a slippery slope here you know and it's happened so quickly to us since 2020 this is why i like the idea of freeing the code because i want to leave the decision up to the uh network creators of if they want to ban the decision up to the network creators of if they want to ban doxing on their network or not.
Starting point is 01:32:08 Right. We just got to find where free the code doesn't mean like give out your IP and all the information, all the, you know, the intellectual property
Starting point is 01:32:14 you've actually done in writing that code. There has to be a line where it depends on what kind of business you are. I think, I think it depends on what kind of, you know, we've talked about this too
Starting point is 01:32:22 with like whether Twitter is a platform or whether it's a, it's publishing this information. I don't know. It has to be discussed. It has to be worked out because that could be both ways. It should be a platform. It should be like a phone company.
Starting point is 01:32:31 And the tweets should be on me, have nothing to do with Twitter. Right. That's why we need to, I hope when Elon buys this, I hope he just decentralizes the whole thing and just says like, I no longer have the ability to ban anybody. Bye. Have a nice day. That'd be fantastic. He'd definitely make Twitter great again.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Well, I think one of the challenges to be realistic is people can create fake accounts and then spam the platform with garbage. And they can do illegal stuff, too. And if you don't ban it, then you're... Well, that's the cop's problem. But if you're a network owner and someone puts something illegal up and you don't immediately remove it, you're complicit in...
Starting point is 01:33:07 Decentralizes it, like I said. If Elon removes his ability by putting Twitter out as a decentralized system and he just says, Twitter no longer has the ability to ban accounts,
Starting point is 01:33:18 like it's hosted on other servers and people can host their own servers, he like federates it or something. Yeah, then it's that person. Yeah. Yeah. Then the police can go to you yeah i mean look dude if you go out in the street and stand if you go if you go into a hotel and start screaming racist things they're not going to come and shut down the hotel yeah like oh the hotel is hosting this this this
Starting point is 01:33:37 offensive speech let's say you say you you go in there and cite violence not going to go in the hotel and be like well you know it was in your space so you're in trouble no they're gonna arrest you yeah so that that's the they're going to arrest you. So that's the way it should be. If you go on Twitter and you say this stuff, Twitter should be like, help, police. There's a guy on our platform
Starting point is 01:33:51 doing, saying, inciting violence and committing crimes. Yeah, that's how Mines does it right now. There you go. Oh, yeah, man. Simple as that.
Starting point is 01:33:56 Good. Good to hear that. All right. How about this? Let's go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button,
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Starting point is 01:34:23 And we just put out a really funny episode of Cast Castles. You want to check that one out and share the show. If you like it, be the notification. Help us get past that censorship. Let's read some super chats. We got Raymond G. Stanley Jr. He says, Doug, I never realized how big of a deal PA is in the grand scheme of things with elections.
Starting point is 01:34:39 Sir, when you win, please be level headed for many of us. Just want someone who cares about the people. He will. I will keep an eye on him. I think that speaks to motive, which I already went over here. Could have written off on a sunset, comfortable retirement. Colonel,
Starting point is 01:34:55 strategist, author, professor of the War College, all the credentials I needed to do easy things in life. What do you think Shapiro's motivation is? Power. He wants to be the first Jewish president of the United States. He said that. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:35:09 It's not me saying that. So that's not an anti-Semitic. See how stupid things are. The mere fact that I point out that I'm a big advocate of school choice, obviously. $20,000 a year we're spending per student in Pennsylvania, and you can't pick.
Starting point is 01:35:22 You're doomed to a zip code. In Philadelphia, why are you voting Democrat? You're stuck in that school and your kids are flailing. But the mere fact that I point out that he's forced school choice for himself and is able to afford a very expensive school, about $30,000 to $40,000 per kid for kids, and that becomes anti-Semitic. That's how ridiculous the media has become in America,
Starting point is 01:35:43 and in Pennsylvania specifically. They've become ridiculous. Let's have a debate. Let's talk about school choice and why for the Obamas, he could afford a very pluribus expensive school for his daughters in Washington, D.C., but what about the rest of the kids in Washington, D.C.? Why don't they have that same right to choose a school? This is the reason why he won't debate you. This is why many of these leftists won't come on a show like this. It's because we won't pull a gotcha. We'll simply ask,
Starting point is 01:36:08 hey, how come these guys, these people are opposed to school choice, but they send their kids to these expensive charter schools and private schools? And they'll, no answer. I agree. Because the way I see it is, you've got a poor kid in Chicago
Starting point is 01:36:21 in a crummy zip code. With school choice, they can go to the really nice areas and go to the nice school. That's right. The only person who would have a problem with that is going to be a wealthy individual who thinks they're better off and should be. That's what we're seeing. The Democratic Party has become the party of the wealthy. And, you know, Tulsi Gabbard's speech that she can no longer be part of this elite cabal of the Democrat Party exactly says that.
Starting point is 01:36:42 Yes, it does. Did you have something there? No, I'm just going to say. And the thing is, it does. Did you have something there? No, I'm just going to say they're, and the thing is, it's not the average Democrat. It's sadly an elite class. And sadly, there are elite Republicans too.
Starting point is 01:36:54 Oh, yeah. So the bluest of bluest areas in our state is Philadelphia. That's as blue as you can get Democrat-wise. Shocked. Yeah. But despite that, 88% of the parents agree with me on school choice and disagree with Joshosh shapiro wow they want they want school choice let's read some more we got none of your business he says tim do you read super chats starting from the beginning of the stream or starting from the
Starting point is 01:37:13 point during the stream at which you start reading super chats from the beginning so once we go to super chats i go back to the beginning of all the chats and then start going through them destiny troll says bring back seamus Seamus for president 2024. Oh, and a little shamrock. Yeah, Seamus disappeared. Yeah, you don't have to bring him back. It's fine. He reappeared on Twitter last night to confirm that it was him that made that quote from Jezebel.
Starting point is 01:37:35 I don't know if you guys saw. Leftist media attributed a quote from Catholic conservative Seamus to Ian, who is... Just wants to legalize weed in Pennsylvania. How do you guys? How do you feel about legalizing pot? Not for recreational use. It's medically legal right now? It is medically legal right now.
Starting point is 01:37:51 And let me back up the argument, because obviously you're a libertarian, I presume, yes? I don't know. Sometimes. Depends on the situation. Leftist authoritarian. Yeah, right. And labels are always dangerous anyway, because we're all free thinkers.
Starting point is 01:38:03 But I looked at what happened in Washington State, Oregon, New Mexico, and Colorado, and they were promised great revenues with taxation. But we've seen actually a 30% increase in crimes, gateways. All the stuff we were warned about actually came true in those four states I just mentioned. So I've been studying the topic there. So I'm not for recreational use. We'll read some more. I think actually that was a super chat.
Starting point is 01:38:25 Someone asked that. Azalea Primrose says, Russian doesn't need to fire nukes at us. They will label them fentanyl and walk them across the border. Bet some are already here. Scary stuff. I mean, that's an interesting point too.
Starting point is 01:38:36 People are very scared of conventional warfare when the reality is our poorest border and our weak military. It very well may be that Russia, we had one guy on say Russia will release a bioweapon. Or how about China just sends opiates over the border. That's what they've been doing, right?
Starting point is 01:38:54 They already do, man. They're putting so much over the border in California. We're the fourth highest in fentanyl deaths in the nation. 12 to 15 Pennsylvanians are dying a day. I believe it. Josh Shapiro is doing nothing about it. And most of it's coming from China. Alright, TheHazmat221 says, Tim, long time listener, I took your advice to heart are dying a day. I believe it. And Josh Shapiro is doing nothing about it and most of it is coming from China. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:39:06 The Hazmat 221 says, Tim, long time listener, I took your advice to heart and I got a 74 acre parcel in PA after fleeing New Jersey to live off grid with my newly wed wife. We don't want PA
Starting point is 01:39:16 to become the next New Jersey and support Doug wholeheartedly. PA needs him. That's awesome. 74 acres. Wow. Yeah. You guys.
Starting point is 01:39:25 Welcome. You know, that's a beautiful thing. I'm so. Wow. Yeah. You guys. Welcome. You know, that's a beautiful thing. I'm so pleased to read that. You know, you left New Jersey because of failed Democrat policies and you're coming to a state that needs to be Republican and free and not bring in those failed politics with you. Do you guys have animals, chickens, goats? We do. We have.
Starting point is 01:39:41 We're cat people. We like dogs, too. Oh, OK. But yeah, we're not we're not allowed to have other animals. Oh, okay, so you don't have chickens. No. Oh, that's unfortunate. We're actually not allowed in the...
Starting point is 01:39:51 Yeah, cities. We're next to a state forest, and so they limit, sadly, in our housing. But our neighbors are turkeys and deer. Yeah, yeah, we do have... and bear. We have bear on our front porch sometimes. That sounds actually kind of scary. But you're armed, right? Of course. Oh, yes. We have bear on our front porch sometimes. That sounds actually kind of scary. But you're armed, right?
Starting point is 01:40:07 Of course. Oh, yes. And then it's all right. We had a bear come on our front porch last winter. I think it was desperate. Yep. And it tried ripping. So we have Chicken City.
Starting point is 01:40:16 I don't know if you saw. It's the big chicken coop. We had a smaller one. And we came out one day and the metal had been pulled. But it didn't get in because we did triple layer. But we had on camera, a bear was trying to break in and get the chickens. Did you guys see that video of the hiker that the bear attacked and dove at the guy,
Starting point is 01:40:31 and he threw it over his shoulder? I mean, have you seen this video? Was he on an edge or what? Yeah. Yeah, I just saw it today. That was insane. And the bear kept coming back. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:40 I'm like, stop. That's like a horror movie. All right, let's read this one from a name I can't read. He says, Tim, I was going to become a $1,000 a month member for the next 84 years, but then I read Jezebel about Ian being a conservative, so I decided not to. Oh, well, that's 84,000. What is that, $1,000? So what's 12,000 times 84?
Starting point is 01:41:00 That's a lot of money. That's a lot of thousands. That's about 950,000. Is that 10 million? Yeah, I think it's closer to 1 million. 1 million. 975 million. 84 that's a lot of money yeah that's a lot of thousands that's uh that's about 950 000 yeah i think it's closer to 1 million 1 million maybe i'm doing the maybe i'm doing the math 12 12 000 times 84 is that a million no that's like 100 that's like 1 million 1 million dollars oh man we lost a million bucks yeah there it is all right all right clayton johnston says irs already making claims about owing for previous years.
Starting point is 01:41:25 I just got my letter a couple of days ago saying I owe them more more for 2020 voting red in PA. See, this is what people don't understand. When the Biden administration, the Democrats are bringing on these these IRS agents, we get a conservative talking point. They're going to start auditing poor people. And I said, no, they aren't. That's ridiculous. They're not going to audit you. They're just going to come and bill you.
Starting point is 01:41:44 They don't need they don't need you to justify why you owe the money they're just going to say you owe us the money i hope i hope regular people recognize that yeah because this is what that's what clayton's saying uh i see this personally my family sees it you will one day get a letter in the mail and they'll say you owe us 75 bucks and you'll go for what and it's not going to tell you. You just got to pay it up. Congratulations. They're coming for you. They're taxing you, man. It's going to happen. All right.
Starting point is 01:42:12 Let's see what we got here. Mike. Okay. Mr. Hunt, first name Mike. Nice try. Says, how are we just watching the U.S. enter an era of World War III Holodomor scenario and not seriously considering seceding from blue states. Why can't you and other media entities
Starting point is 01:42:28 actively as a group start a movement for statewide peaceful secession? Well, I know Luke's talked about peaceful divorce. I know Michael Malice has. But I think we're trying as desperately as possible to not have that happen. And we're hoping that with like a midterm
Starting point is 01:42:44 and then 2024 election, we can actually just win a culture war and stop the country from falling apart. Can I interject something here? So during the shutdown, a lot of people would get very aggravated and actually say some, you know, pretty potentially violent things
Starting point is 01:42:55 about how frustrated they were with the government. And then I would ask them the question, they're like, well, did you vote in the last election? No. Did you vote in the presidential? No. I'm like, then you're part of the problem. So secession is, I'm going to say it straight, a ridiculous idea. We resolve this at the ballot
Starting point is 01:43:09 box and let's do it this way. You know, go out and vote and be active. And if you're really that serious about it, and it sounds like it's pretty passionate about it, then volunteer for a campaign, donate to a campaign, or maybe run for office yourself instead of talking so, you know, bombastically. Or be a poll watcher. Well, personally, I think secession is a great idea when you see it from a point of view of decentralization, from the point of view of how the Amish have done it, from the point of view of individuals taking personal responsibility for themselves. We might be at odds here, but that's how I see it. And I think it's a great idea that we should strive for on an independent local level.
Starting point is 01:43:41 You mentioned a convention of states, too. How does that work? Is that between governors or between state legislations? That would be through state legislators selecting representatives to represent a state in a convention of states. And obviously, it's coming out of the conservative movement, but there's also fears on the Second Amendment side that that could be a runaway convention that could start infringing upon our rights. And that might be another way to circumvent the constitutional process you know individually the amish still pay their taxes they still obey our laws and what have you so even though they have their own schools they still
Starting point is 01:44:12 have to pay school tax to yes you know like that's that seems ridiculous but a fracturing at the greater level like i'm thinking 1861 i don't want and maybe you know without the conflict but i don't want to see that happen to our country. We're better off as the United States of America. Yeah, we just got to win. People need to get out and vote. It's still to this day, Doug, elections in Pennsylvania are compromised. I don't know if we're going to go.
Starting point is 01:44:35 Are you kidding me? That's exactly what Democrats want you to do. They want you to stay home. There's so many Republicans that don't vote. I mean, the Inquirer actually wrote an article. They're concerned. They're seeing this red wave of Rebby and I traveling across the state
Starting point is 01:44:47 and getting these massive crowds in rural counties. And they're like, wow, if those Republicans actually go out and vote, Massachanna's going to win. So yes, get out and vote. And don't knock on your neighbor's doors. Call your friends, call your family, and say, we got to do this.
Starting point is 01:45:00 And take the Amish to the polls. That's right. Drive them to the polls. We have a lot, a lot of support in the Amish community.ish to the polls that's right they drive them to the polls we have a lot a lot of support in the amish community we do that's all right all right we got morgan mogus he says hey tim big fan of the show if josh shapiro keeps avoiding doug's debate calls he should debate mises caucus libertarian candidate matt hackenberg instead it would really make josh look cowardly there's a lot of people here's my first thoughts on this question's a lot of people. Here's my first thoughts on this question. Obviously, a lot of people who are libertarians, we have a lot of Mises caucus and libertarian friends. They want to be contenders in this. They want to make sure people recognize them.
Starting point is 01:45:33 And so I see a lot of people being like, you know, you should debate the libertarian. But they actually make an interesting point here that I thought it really would make Josh Shapiro look cowardly if you excluded him and the conversation shifted away from Democrats into something totally different. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's interesting. Or just simply put it like you're hosting a debate for the governorship and everyone's invited who's running for governor. And would
Starting point is 01:45:56 you debate a libertarian candidate? Yeah, I'd debate anyone. I mean, we have a green candidate out there. I don't know why we're not talking about her as well. Who's that? I don't have her name handy, but she made it on the ballot and she's a viable alternative to josh shapiro that's for sure if you want to vote red yeah i was we were talking with some of the you know uh i think it was when dave smith was here he's a mises caucus guy and and i'm we're good friends we're big fans but i i gotta say look man i don't i don't i don't view the the new maga republican
Starting point is 01:46:23 uh america first types as the lesser of two evils the way I viewed the establishment Republican Party. I certainly don't agree with everything the Republican Party has to offer. But there's a handful of Republicans where I'm like, yeah, they're actually pretty good. School choice is a good thing. Like, I agree with these things. They don't want war. I'm like, you won me over with that. You want school choice.
Starting point is 01:46:41 I actually see an opportunity now within the Republican Party with many candidates to actually get some good people in. I think the Republicans got to do a lot to get rid of that old guard garbage, you know, establishment stuff. But, you know, to our libertarian friends, the risk that everyone sees is, are you going to split the vote? Is it going to end up hurting everybody if we try and go for the cream of the crop utopian vision? Or do we say, hey, look, we got some pretty good guys right here. How do you, I don't know, man. I don't have any answers. That's tough.
Starting point is 01:47:14 And that's hurt us before. The reason why, and whatever we think of Bush the elder is irrelevant to my point, but Perot came in and he ensured a Clinton victory, which began a transition in our country culturally. I do think it would be hilarious. And I understand the political challenge.
Starting point is 01:47:30 But it would be hilarious if you guys just organized the governorship debate and put his podium up there and just there you go. We can have a cut out of him. And we could even make him, you know, a little bigger than life. I mean, look, you invite the Green Party candidate to let them represent the left and then be like, why is he refusing to show up and actually speak? I don't think you'd even mention him at that point. Just call the 2022 Pennsylvania governor. Yeah, I say whoever comes invite everyone who's running officially on the ballot.
Starting point is 01:48:00 I promise Josh Shapiro. He could bring Donna Brazil with him, who, of course, who cheated famously in 2016, gave Hillary all the questions before the ballot. I promised Josh Shapiro he could bring Don in Brazil with him, who of course, who cheated famously in 2016, gave Hillary all the questions before the debate. I'll even give him a box to stand on so he looks taller. It's okay, Josh.
Starting point is 01:48:12 I'll see you on the debate floor, man. Do you guys know each other personally? Not at all. We saw him one time and he skirted away from us up in Erie. Oh, wow. All right.
Starting point is 01:48:21 Let's see what we can grab here. Teddy here says, 3rd ID 123rd Signal Battalion Echo Company, 98-99, Godspeed Mastriano, Voice of the Marn. Marnie? Did we overlap? Yeah, we overlapped.
Starting point is 01:48:35 I was in 3rd Infantry Division, Division Artillery from 1997? No, 98. 98 to 2000. Yeah, it was 98. Is that some kind of MK Ultra activation code? That's what I'm getting from him. I'm a civilian. I don't know
Starting point is 01:48:49 what you guys are saying there, but I'm concerned. We're rocking the Marne because in 1918 when the Germans broke through the French lines, my unit stood like a rock on the Marne River and stopped them. Wow. Isaac Glover Show says, can Mr. Mastriano please consider joining the new Trump administration in 2024
Starting point is 01:49:06 if he loses his governor's race? Also can't wait to see Carrie Lake win. We're going to win bigly, to borrow from Donald Trump. But thank you for thinking so much of me. Yeah, and also Carrie Lake, man. I've seen more and more of her videos. I really think she could be president. She's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:49:28 Look, I have tremendous respect for anybody who can come here and sit and have a conversation with us you know because some people a lot of politicians they can't even debate yeah it's like do you really have ideas if you don't know anything about those ideas you can't back them up yeah that's true i don't know man look i can disagree with you or anybody else but as long as you know why you think something i'll be like okay well you know you know you mentioned some things uh on the show about your policies and i'm like i actually don't know enough to refute what you're saying i'm not going to argue about something i don't know just for the sake of politics so at least you know there you go well thank you for being a decent journalist in that regard there yeah you know we we we all deal with how they lie all day and night i mean like, like we were mentioning, they called Ian Crossland a conservative commentator.
Starting point is 01:50:07 They call me a conservative, and like none of it is just, it's just meaningless. They call all of us conservatives. It's like, it's just nonsense. I mean, anybody who's ever heard anything out of Ian's mouth would laugh at the idea of him being called a conservative. So, Ian, what happened? What caused that? I think I've been tilted conservative since I've been here. No, they thought I was Seamus Coughlin.
Starting point is 01:50:24 They quoted a different guy and thought that I was the one that said it on the conservative since I've been here. No, they thought I was Seamus Coughlin. They quoted a different guy and thought that I was the one that said it. On the show. I don't know. It's like they got an AI transcript of it. They don't do the work. They don't do the work. It's a Google search.
Starting point is 01:50:37 I think of myself as liberally conservative or conservatively liberal. Now, if they're getting your name wrong, imagine what else they're getting wrong in all the articles that they put out there. Yeah. All right. Ashley B. Yo says, first super chat, super pumped to see Mastriano. No notification tonight on here. I live right outside of Scranton. Big props for coming on and God bless.
Starting point is 01:50:55 Nice. This is what, you know, these are the kind of shows that we need more of. Not the sound bites you hear on the primetime show for five minutes. Long form. It's really hard to lay out a solid policy for five minutes. Long form. It's really hard to lay out a solid policy position in five minutes or less. It's impossible.
Starting point is 01:51:09 I start talking fast because I'm going to squeeze it in. It's like, it doesn't even flow and I appreciate you guys. The music slowly gets louder and louder. Get played off.
Starting point is 01:51:17 Thanks for coming on. Click. Nick Colonello says, my fiance and I are hoping to have kids in the future. What goals do you have for Pennsylvania's Department of Education in four or five years? Wow.
Starting point is 01:51:29 It's going to be rapid changes because it's our Department of Education that's become very radicalized. We've covered some of the books. You have the books there, and it's disgusting. So on day one, CRT is over. On day one, no more gender pronoun games. This is all 17 January. On day one, we'll be reaffirming parental rights. Did I even have to say that?
Starting point is 01:51:47 I kind of choke on it in America. Really? No kidding. And then I'll back all these up with legislation out of the House and Senate. I'm not going to rule by edict, but I'm going to change the culture on day one. I have a Secretary of Education. I'll be focused on education and not indoctrination. That means we need to have all the curriculum posted online for parental review and transparency. So the school districts will be ordered to post that.
Starting point is 01:52:09 That was a bill, by the way, vetoed by Governor Wolf a couple months ago, transparency in curriculum. You know, I think the more eyes that are on things, the better off we are, the more accountability for public. We're spending $31 billion a year in Pennsylvania on education. According to a 2020 report from the national education association we are the 12th highest in the nation spending wise with 28th and quality student before covid we're not getting our bang for the buck and so my goal is actually
Starting point is 01:52:34 to do education rather than indoctrination and history civics and constitution to be brought back right on you know that's from a doctor in history by by the way. Oh, that's fantastic. He's taught at the master's degree level. He cares about education. I believe in our history and our laws, people need to read the Constitution and study it. Agreed. Granted, I came in with a framework and understanding of the Constitution, but being in the Pennsylvania Senate during the shutdown during COVID was a crash course in the Constitution. I had no idea things were happening so rapidly.
Starting point is 01:53:08 And much of it was because of ignorance of the laws and the rules and our basic constitutional rights that people seem to not have a grasp of anymore. Yes, right. It would be cool if little kids in elementary school learned how to write a bill and pass it with the other kids could vote on it and then change some behavior in the classroom. Yeah, write a check. Or we don't write checks too much. Swipe an ATM card. You know, kids not knowing how the financial system or the business or the economy works. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:31 Compound interest. Or taxes at all. And that would be so easy to do. Yes. Seriously. That they have a mock-up of the House and Senate and the governor. It's so fun. Well, the good schools have this.
Starting point is 01:53:40 And you can change roles every few months or every month. That's right. The really expensive private schools have things like this.'s right class president stuff like that the the public schools they just leave you high and dry yeah all right hexagon proton says one of my co-workers used to work in mining and had activists lock themselves to machinery overnight one day they left them there through the day sitting in the sun for nine hours they didn't return did you guys see these uh so first there was the the two women who threw the tomato soup on the on the van gogh that's disgusting yeah
Starting point is 01:54:09 then they glued their hands to the wall immediately got arrested i was outraged they should have left them there yeah you glue yourself to the wall you become the exhibit then when you gotta go to the bathroom you can beg for help and we'll say no there was uh now there's a bunch of uh scientists i think it's in germany they glued themselves to the floor of this porsche showroom and then they got really mad that uh no it was vw yeah vw wouldn't give them bedpans because they were like how are we supposed to respect you know respectfully defecate now that we glued ourselves to the floor and my attitude was like i don't know he's planning failure to plan
Starting point is 01:54:45 is planning for failure bro personal problem should have brought one with them look i i i love peaceful protest it's fantastic america has has done great things with peaceful protest and uh if you want to peacefully protest i respect it but you pay the consequences you block a street you get arrested but you did something that wasn't hurting people in a great degree. I understand there can be problems like, you know, if a car can't get through and someone loses their job or there's a lot of problems there. But that's why you get arrested for it. You should block the road. The cops should come and arrest you. You get the press. Everybody understands. We need some wiggle room with civil disobedience. That also means, though, if you lock yourself to a door, you better be prepared to crap on the floor.
Starting point is 01:55:24 If you're not thinking about this stuff i want to tell you all right dylan loli says using my first timcast super chat to say one thing to my future governor constitutional carry oh yeah i love it it's gonna happen more constitutional carry everywhere it's amazing looking at the map of the United States and the expansion of constitutional carry. Second Amendment is winning. For a long time, they did not respect it. A lot of people, Bro Cody said also, ask about constitutional carry. I think we understand.
Starting point is 01:55:54 You are very much for it. That's what I was curious about. Gen Z says, Doug has my vote, but will he repeal gun laws like permitted carry and fight the feds when they overstep? Already answered it. I actually have a bill in the senate to do just that wow all right uh i'm going to read this one it's a bit more extreme though lima x-ray says will you declare the atf a terrorist organization like your libertarian opponent met hackenberg i don't know if that i mean i don't know how you answer that yeah i think my my simple answer is i i would be for abolishing it i think the the duties they do can easily be handled by any law enforcement already we don't need or create an atf free zone
Starting point is 01:56:35 or or or make it make it into a convenience store even better oh yeah can a governor declare groups as a terrorist group no especially a federal law enforcement agency yeah there's a con i like how you're like am i supposed to actually answer i'm still waiting well i mean i'm sure the libertarian actually is saying that but it's like come on you know and that's the thing that drives me crazy about politics people say anything to get a vote that's why you know the senate race is interesting and it's a lot about you know law and order and crime as i mentioned before but is interesting and it's a lot about law and order and crime, as I mentioned before, but there's nothing that they can do about law and
Starting point is 01:57:07 order and crime at the state level. That's a state issue, anyway. All right, Pinochet's Helicopter Tour says, So Tim, you're telling me the guy who smoked shredded Parmesan floor cheese has committed 459 crimes and the big guy Joe was not involved in one? I didn't say that! I believe
Starting point is 01:57:23 he's probably involved in a bunch of them. He did try to smoke Parmesan cheese. I do remember that. Yeah, that's a fact. I mean, but that's sad, man. Yeah, definitely. I feel bad for Hunter. I think he's a bad guy.
Starting point is 01:57:36 I think he's done bad things, but hearing a story like that, it's just like, you know? Like rock bottom, Parmesan cheese bottom. Yeah, yeah. He was a crack addict. I don't know what he's still doing. And so in his desperation, he, Parmesan cheese bottom. Yeah, yeah. He was a crack addict. I don't know what he's still doing.
Starting point is 01:57:47 And so in his desperation, he grabbed Parmesan cheese and put it in his pipe, I guess. Mm-hmm. That poor cheese. I mean, look, I don't want to rag on the difficulties faced by an individual,
Starting point is 01:57:57 but come on. The Biden family has serious issues, and there's reasons why a person ends up that way. I know it's not always true of every parent some parents try really hard and some somehow their kids fall into bad stuff for sure but uh you know the fact that hunter biden was working on on stuff related to joe's work and stuff like that come on you gotta be more responsible there
Starting point is 01:58:18 all right all right let's grab some super chats let's try and find a good one. What do we got? Hops It Up says, Tim and crew, what's your take on businesses being sued for not rendering services to LGBT plus? What if the business would just charge a crazy amount of money for cake, photos, et cetera? Wouldn't lawsuit not be valid? That's interesting.
Starting point is 01:58:40 This is a tough question. I mean, how do you solve for this? You're aware what's going on with the Colorado baker? Yes. He said he had no problem giving a cake, selling a cake to a gay wedding. It's that he didn't want to make a custom message supporting it. Well, now he's been sued several times. I'm curious.
Starting point is 01:58:57 You know, how do you solve for this? Look, the law says you can't discriminate on the basis of, you know, these, well, I should say, national origin, gender, gender identity. What are your thoughts on this? How do you, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. How do you solve for that? That's just a tough one. I mean, we've got so many gray areas in our country now.
Starting point is 01:59:14 I don't believe that if you have an objection to something, why can't you just say, I'm sorry? And I know in the case of the florist, she recommended another florist for a wedding, and that wasn't good enough. It's not good enough. They want you to do it. This is a dangerous trend here when you have an objection to something. What happened to your own rights?
Starting point is 01:59:33 I wonder if scale is the answer. If it's a small business where it's like one person, you shouldn't be able to bring an action. But if it's like a chain or a dominant business and you can prove that they've monopolized a certain area or something like that then you can that might be like if it's a public corporation well no i mean like if you're if you're a single individual who has a storefront selling flowers and you say i'm not gonna do business with you it should be like carry on and move on so you can find flowers anywhere but if it's walmart
Starting point is 02:00:01 they shouldn't be able to turn you away because they've dominated and monopolized such a large portion that you can't really go anywhere else. Wow. Can I give a shout out? Josh French served with me in Afghanistan. Josh, I love you, brother. Oh, he says,
Starting point is 02:00:15 those that Colonel Mastrano respect him, those that don't know him should. Oh, those that know him, respect him. Those who don't should. Josh, I love you, man. He was a great member of our team in Afghanistan. Right on. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:29 All right. Let's see. Let's try and find a good one because we only got a little bit of time left. You know, I'll say this just as I'm kind of trying to read and speak at the same time. I do try to find good questions, especially hard ones. But when a good portion of all of the Super Chats are just outright, love you, big fan, you know, go Mastriano and things like that, it's like, you know,
Starting point is 02:00:49 I can't just sit here for 10 minutes trying to find everything. But let's see if we can, I'll just try and make sure I can find one more, just a good one that we can end off with. Otherwise, I'll just grab what i see coming up
Starting point is 02:01:05 soon all right all right i'm just gonna have to they're all they're all just big fans of yours so that all look like that everybody's just being like doug you rock can't wait to vote for you i'm like where's the person who's got a question about policy that but all right zero says masterano kept me sane during the abuse of power from the democrats during covid watching his fireside chats gave me hope can't wait to vote for you there it is yeah the one thing i i you know i know that there was there was a lot of q a sessions with politicians in the past and they always do pre-screened questions we don't do that no but at the same time hey guys you know i always try to find good ones but uh everybody's just
Starting point is 02:01:44 saying they love you so i guess that I guess that's what you get. Love you guys back. So, my friends, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, and share the show with your friends. Become a member at TimCast.com to support all of our work. You can follow the show at TimCastIRL. You can follow me at TimCast. Senator Mastriano, do you want to shout anything out? Well, you know what?
Starting point is 02:02:03 Pennsylvania is the birthplace of our country. It was founded by William Penn, who, of course, escaped persecution for his own faith. And he founded our state with the idea that all men can be free people and live their lives as they saw fit, not as a governor or magistrate or king saw fit. And that shaped our government. I think we have to remember who we are. We are the birthplace of freedom and liberty. We're the same state, of course, where a new birth of freedom was secured at Gettysburg. And then finally, 2001 on 9-11, on that dark day, the only hope was Flight 93. And although it had a tragic ending, remember what Todd Beamer said, let's roll. So Pennsylvania and America, let's
Starting point is 02:02:37 roll on 8 November. You got a website? Go to DougForGov.com. All right. Rebby, you wanted anything to add? to them just like to say you know we are the Keystone State so the governor's race is important to all of the USA because of holding together that
Starting point is 02:02:56 that arch that Keystone holds together the rest and I really think that the way that Pennsylvania goes is going to be the way the nation goes right on if you guys get elected, I want some PPA cards.
Starting point is 02:03:08 Thank you guys for coming on. I didn't always agree with everything, but at least we had the conversation. Thank you so much for that. My YouTube channel and news organization is wearechanged.org. I did a very in-depth look into the false flag allegations by the United States, a deep dive into some very serious issues. If you want to see that
Starting point is 02:03:24 video, you can right now on youtube.com forward slash we are change. Thank you so much for having me. Good talking to you guys. Good talking. Next time, maybe we'll go deeper on some conspiracy theories, like talking plasma that the military might be using to make us think they're aliens.
Starting point is 02:03:37 And I hope to work with you in the governor's office at some point with technology. Now you're talking. He wrote down graphene. Yeah, let's retrofit the economy. Because people have something to live for and they want to and they will. with technology. Now you're talking. He wrote down graphene, Ian. Yeah, let's retrofit the economy. Awesome. Because people have something to live for and they want to and they will.
Starting point is 02:03:48 I'd love Pennsylvania to innovate and lead in that technology. It'd be fantastic. Love you, sir. Love you back. Peace and love. Right on, guys. I think you should check out Cast Castle.
Starting point is 02:03:56 It is really funny, by the way, Ian. I watched it today. I don't normally watch it, but it was good. I also watched your video on YouTube today because I saw it on my recommended, which I got recommended for some stuff, but I guess not Timcast. Oh, Luke got recommendations
Starting point is 02:04:05 alright yeah moving on up yeah guys and I am in the chat that is me the I am surge.com you can find me
Starting point is 02:04:12 everywhere that again I'm in there with you commenting whatever yeah yeah right I'm having a lot of fun how's it going see you guys
Starting point is 02:04:18 it'd be funny to do a skit where it's like 10 years from now and it's this futuristic world of flying cars and Ian's like you's a little bit older. And he's looking at a picture of Doug over here. And then he looks up at a statue of him.
Starting point is 02:04:32 And it says, he created the first graphene plant revolutionizing technology. Oh, yeah. Ian's like, we did it. We could build a campus where people come and learn to make it with lasers. And we'll create a new industry. Right on. Now you're talking. All right, everybody.
Starting point is 02:04:47 Thanks for hanging out. We're not having a members-only show because we just, we don't really have enough time for it, unfortunately, but I do appreciate
Starting point is 02:04:53 all of you who are members who help make it all possible and we will see you all next time. Cheers.

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