Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #643 GOP DeSantis Volunteer MERCILESSLY BEATEN In Democrat County, Florida w/Lisa Reynolds

Episode Date: October 25, 2022

Tim, Luke, Mary (Pop Culture Crisis), & Serge join Lisa Reynolds to discuss a conservative volunteer getting brutally beaten in a liberal county in Florida, climate activists storming the view to prot...est Ted Cruz, Biden doubling down on gender affirming care for children, a media outlet stunned by a democrat agreeing with a republican about rejecting woke culture, Trump's statements that journalists should be jailed, and a spicy debate on if a national abortion ban will spark the next civil war. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:51 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. There's a guy canvassing for Marco Rubio and Ron DeSantis in Florida, and he was mercilessly beaten. That's what Marco Rubio reports. And now we have some more confirmation on this individual. Apparently, it was in a Democrat county when four individuals said, you are not welcome here, and then mercilessly beat him to the point where he's got internal bleeding. He's going to need facial reconstructive surgery. And it's a pretty crazy
Starting point is 00:01:19 story. The response we've seen from the left is that they're saying this guy is apparently associated with fascists. And we have a report report from i believe it's miami times talking about how he's posted a bunch of racist and offensive things and it's interesting because seeing someone go out and canvas for politically and then to be mercilessly beaten and their response is he's a bad guy and i'm like well you know i'd agree those opinions are really awful the things he was saying is that supposed to wash away or justify the fact that he's going to need facial reconstructive surgery? He's got internal bleeding and the violence is escalating to an extreme degree. This is crazy stuff, man. And I'll tell you why they're so threatened by him.
Starting point is 00:01:54 We just finished watching, as many of you may have, the debate between DeSantis and Crist in Florida. And I just got to say, I think DeSantis absolutely crushed Crist in this debate. He made a lot of really great points. People were screaming and yelling. Some people didn't like DeSantis. But it was really interesting. So we'll talk about that. We've got a bunch of other stories, too. It's one surprising. Joe Biden's actually calling, he's condemning the dangerous gain of function research being done at Boston University. So I was actually surprised to see that. But of course, we got to talk about Ted Cruz getting interrupted by climate change activists on The View. Man, these people are, these activists for the left, they're actually helping the Republican
Starting point is 00:02:33 Party because gas prices are one of the biggest issues, if not the biggest right now. Before we get started, my friends, head over to timcast.com. Become a member to support our work. Click that beautiful little join us button. And as a member, you'll get access to the TimCast IRL Uncensored show Monday through Thursday at 11 p.m. plus the entire massive library. I think there's hundreds of episodes now, 400 or 500. You'll definitely want to check that out because we've got a bunch of really awesome people. You'll get to watch the Cast Castle vlog, Tales from the Inverted World. We've got new shows coming, and you will be supporting our journalists.
Starting point is 00:03:02 We had a reporter on the ground at Matt Walsh's event. We've got a reporter on the ground covering a lot of these events as they're starting to take shape with the midterms coming up. So don't forget to also smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us to talk about all of this and more is Lisa Reynolds. Hi guys. I'm happy
Starting point is 00:03:20 to be back. Thanks for having me, Tim. Who are you? Oh my gosh. I guess a long time political insider. I just left a really long stint on the Hill and I'm happy to be back. Thanks for having me, Tim. Who are you? Oh, my gosh. I guess a longtime political insider. I just left a really long stint on the Hill, and I'm working in political consulting and freelance writing. Right on. Yeah. You work for anybody interesting?
Starting point is 00:03:35 Nothing I want to say on here. All right. A couple people. A couple interesting people. All right. Well, cool. A couple interesting people, yeah. Right on.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Thanks for hanging out. We've also got Luke Rudkowski. Now you get all quiet. You guys are in for quite a show. My name is Luke Rudkowski here of We Are Change.org. And the shirt I'm wearing today is a little bit on the nose.
Starting point is 00:03:53 It's a 2024 Joe Biden shirt. Come on. Family friendly. It is. It is. It's Hunter Biden who named him this. Not me.
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Starting point is 00:04:28 If you don't know, go subscribe to us on YouTube. I'm happy to be back. I love the fans. Well, all right. And I'm here pressing buttons as always. Pressing the buttons. Let's jump into this first story from TimCast.com. Marco Rubio Canvasser reportedly attacked, told Republicans not allowed in the neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:04:45 He was also campaigning for DeSantis as well. I believe he was wearing a Rubio hat and a DeSantis shirt. Or I'm sorry, he was wearing a DeSantis hat and a Rubio shirt. The campaign volunteer who was wearing apparel supportive of the Florida senator and the Florida governor DeSantis reportedly suffered internal bleeding and will require facial reconstructive surgery. Rubio reported on Monday, Hialeah Mayor Esteban Steve Bovo said the police department has reportedly made an arrest, though did not provide further details, citing a lack of information, the Miami Herald reported.
Starting point is 00:05:14 So apparently, I mean, Rubio is saying it was four guys. Now, this is where it gets fun. Because Charlie Chris has come out himself. And I can respect this. This is the Democrat running for governor, saying there's no place for violence in politics. Senator Rubio, your canvasser is in our prayers and we look forward to those responsible being brought to justice. We have Val Deming saying I have zero tolerance for any violence against any person for any reason. Those responsible for attacking a
Starting point is 00:05:39 canvasser last night should be arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Now, I absolutely can respect those calling this out, the Democrats calling this out, the violence. But here's, I just gotta, here we go. From the Miami New Times, Rubio supporter attacked while canvassing is identified, has apparent white supremacist past. Okay. Now, the first thing is a bunch of leftists pointed this out.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Antifa came out and said he deserved it. They were tweeting this saying that, oh, it turns out he was a white supremacist, therefore he deserves it. I think he's Cuban and he's not white. I don't know if white supremacists make sense. You know, you can call him something else, I guess, but if you want to call him fascist. So this guy gets mercilessly beaten and the left immediately finds a justification for why.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I can only assume then they're probably the ones who beat him and this was their justification. But the first thing I'm going to say, yeah, I don't like his opinions if that's the case. You know, I've seen some screenshots of things he may have posted. They're accusing him of posting really, really awful stuff. Some of the worst of the worst does not justify mercilessly beating someone to the point where they need surgery and they're internally bleeding. And then I want to point out, if the Democrats want to keep playing games like this, we could now say Governor candidate Charlie Crist defended white supremacists today. That's the game they play in the media. So if they want to come out and attack this guy who was just beaten and try and make it
Starting point is 00:06:59 seem like there's justification for it, then we can point out, oh, Democrats are defending white supremacists, right? The simple thing is no violence, condemn it all. The dude can say bad things. I don't think it's relevant to why he was brutally beaten right now. This is the kind of stuff we have to call for de-escalation on. I just think it's crazy that they're always the right is the real threat to America or democracy or anything. But if we look at these attacks over and over again, it's always conservatives that are getting run over by cars or beaten to a bloody pulp or rampalls getting attacked by his neighbor. It's it's it's not them that are getting brutalized all the time.
Starting point is 00:07:33 It's our side that's getting brutalized all the time. There's a video going viral right now of. Well, I will point out just for the sake of I can hear all the leftists screaming Charlottesville when, you know, James Fields, I think, was it when he ran the car? I have my own theory on that, but that's fine. And like, if you actually watch the footage, but. But I mean, you know, there's a lot to say. Antifa does tend to be the one and BLM and these left extremists going around causing all the violence.
Starting point is 00:07:54 And there's a video right now that I retweeted where it's like a guy and his girlfriend, I'm assuming, they're walking and Antifa is beating them. And then even an Antifa medic grabs the woman and she's screaming. And I'm like, that's an important thing to highlight for people is that the Antifa people will put red crosses on their arms for two reasons. It's a disguise. So they can go and beat people and go, I'm just a medic. And then when the and then and then also is propaganda. When the police arrest them, then they post for saying the police are arresting medics.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Why are they doing it? And it's because they're psychotic extremist terrorists who are beating people. I'm looking at the article that you mentioned here. I'm trying to find out the exact sources of what they're using here, but they're also reporting that the police report is not mentioning that there was a political dispute,
Starting point is 00:08:38 nor does it look or indicate that there was a specific targeting of this specific individual. So what's really going on here? Are they just trying to justify it? Was there any reason? Is there someone really going through Twitter, finding someone on the street that's a niche person saying,
Starting point is 00:08:51 hey, you did this in a couple years ago? I highly doubt that. No, no, no. No one's saying that. I know, I know. What they're saying is this guy was canvassing. Some people saw his shirt and his hat, beat him up. And then when the news broke from Rubio that this guy was brutally beaten and told you're not supposed to be here, Antifa immediately rushed out to dig up the guy's past.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Now, here's the other issue. I don't know that's even true because the photos they posted do not look like this guy unless he dropped 50 pounds. Yeah, he looks like a Spanish guy, too, which doesn't really add up to a good white supremacist there in the story that they have there. So again, a lot of the things don't make sense here. We don't know exactly what happened. We weren't there. There's no video of the incident,
Starting point is 00:09:34 but we have to understand that our society is becoming more violent. When we look at crimes, especially in major cities, there is an epidemic happening here. And whether it's because of the destruction of our mental health or just our political class becoming more hyperbolic by the day, it was just a few weeks ago where Biden stood behind a huge podium with the red lights behind him declaring that MAGA people are the true danger to this country. And when you have such sensationalistic hyperbolic
Starting point is 00:10:00 language, you're going to have people taking action on that language, which is pretty dangerous for everyone involved in the political sphere. Another interesting point, though, to bring up is that they can always dig into the past of Republicans, too. But like, it didn't matter about George Floyd's past, right? Like, he can hold guns to pregnant women, and that's fine. Did he point a gun, like, at her belly? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I read, I don't know. Is that what he did? Yeah. And robbed her. I read that he pointed the gun at her belly and said, do you want your baby to live or die? Right. Right, he's fine. We can classify him as...
Starting point is 00:10:30 But I've also read that that story was completely fabricated, so I don't know what to think. And it's really irrelevant. We know that he had a criminal record. That's my point, though. And we know that he was on drugs when he died. We don't even know what they're saying about this guy's true. I didn't read any of the tweets that it says. But even if it were, it didn't seem to matter for their people with their shady pasts, right?
Starting point is 00:10:48 And so it doesn't justify violence under any stretch of the imagination. Yeah, it's always so funny. You know, I went to this market the other day, and it was really, really great. It was in Potomac, Virginia, I think is the name of the city. It's a beautiful place. Wow, everyone there is very wealthy. The mall at Tyson's, I could not believe. It was like being in the capital city of the Hunger Games. The bathroom It's a beautiful place. Wow, everyone there is very wealthy. The mall at Tyson's, I could not believe,
Starting point is 00:11:06 it was like being in the capital city of the Hunger Games. The bathroom had like a lounge section in it. Like, it was weird, like a half moon chair. And there's like weird, like marble lighting. Wow.
Starting point is 00:11:15 And I went to this market and they had some Ruth Bader Ginsburg chocolates. And it said, Notorious RBG. And, you know, I said, that is a perfect gift for Luke, and so I bought it, and I brought it back to Luke, and the reason I bring it up is that one of the
Starting point is 00:11:31 chocolates, it said something like, fight for what you believe in, with the red salute on it, the communist fist, and I just think it's funny, like, I know what the red salute is, and means, and why, what the symbol is supposed supposed to be but you see it as a mainstream icon and this one i know the left is going to love this one they're going to start vomiting on themselves screaming when i see the red salute it may as well be a swastika right there were two extremist ideologies in europe at the turn of the 19th century they believed almost the same things in terms of authoritarianism. They just differed on cultural things. The communists wanted to purge the culture. The Nazis wanted to reinforce traditional
Starting point is 00:12:11 culture. But they both loved the symbol of the weak coming together to form the strong. With the fascists, they had the fascists, the bundle of sticks with the blade in it, strapped together because each individual stick is weak, but together makes a weapon. And the red salute is the outward facing fist where each individual finger is weak, but together it's strong. That's why they're showing you the fingers when they do it. So when I go into a store and it's a bunch of like regular old people being like, we're normal people who don't like extremism. Here's our hate symbol you know here's here's here's a chocolate with a symbol of of a hundred million dead and it's normal to people just completely normal yeah i was like uh thank you tim for the genocide of my people on a chocolate since of course you know
Starting point is 00:12:56 i'm polish i was born and raised in poland and that represents you know a lot of you know just horrible things that that happened to my people. All the innocent people that were, of course, tortured, that were murdered because they didn't believe in the right political ideas that, of course, the communists wanted you to believe in. And I think there's a reason why there's so much genocide and so much communism that always coalesces together throughout human history. And that's something that is not really taught in history class or in public schools. But there's a big correlation there, and it's not an accident. But the point that you're making to where it's like all these rich people and whatever, I think it was just James Kluge, he was doing a, like, what is fascism or is America fascist type of video.
Starting point is 00:13:35 And there's all these, like, rich people on the beach, and he's pushing them against, like, about what is fascism. They have no idea what it even means. They can't define it. So they're going around calling all Americans, or at least half the population, fascist. They don't even know what it means. Well, here's a funny thing.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I watched this YouTube video. So I went to Gettysburg this weekend, too. And then, you know, it's like an hour and 40 minutes or whatever from here, hour and a half. And then I started watching a documentary series. It was like four hours long. And then in between that, YouTube recommended this What Would Happen video from a YouTuber. I forget his name, so I apologize for this guy.
Starting point is 00:14:10 But it was like, Who Would Win a Civil War? And it was a really great video. He got a lot of things wrong. Oh, you're talking about What If All History? Yeah, that guy. That guy. He's been asked on the show a couple times here. People have been asking him on the show.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Oh, okay. I watched his video. It was really, really interesting. And I forgot exactly what I was trying to say about it. What were you just mentioning? Gettysburg and... Civil War,
Starting point is 00:14:29 who won the Civil War? No, no, no. What were you saying? About the rich people not knowing what fascism is. Oh, right, right, right. I'm sorry, sorry. The point he made is that
Starting point is 00:14:37 prior to the past 50 years, every political faction was authoritarian right. The idea that there's an authoritarian left is new. the idea that there's an authoritarian left is new that the idea there's a libertarian left is extremely new and so he was making this point where he's like if you were to take all the political factions from like the previous conflicts throughout the past hundred years and bring them to today they would all be authoritarian
Starting point is 00:14:59 right like even the communists were very pro-masculinity and like working class they just wanted to purge the traditions and the fascists wanted to preserve the traditions right but they were all like lunatic homicidal maniacs and the funny thing i think about it is it's just like really easy to point out as like we know the nazis were some of the worst in in in our history like just the horrifying things they did and the communists did what 10 12 fold more substantially more than that right right yeah oh yeah like like 50 times yep the communists all together had like 50 times more murder and genocide right but it's always it's always the nazis but you can buy the red salute in your local town market on a chocolate
Starting point is 00:15:44 supporting your supreme court your favorite Supreme Court justice. Didn't Obama have like a Christmas ball with Mao on it in the White House? I'm not sure about that. I don't know. You've got to look that one up. Look that up. I'm just saying. I feel like that was a thing.
Starting point is 00:15:57 This was a long time ago. I remember when I pointed out some leftists did the red salute. I mean, they all do it. They walk around, they raise the fist. They don't understand that they're raising the fist is literally, I think it was like Ethan Klein or somebody who was like, Tim's criticizing the universal symbol of resistance.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And I'm like, that's not what it is. Like, yo, read a history book, bro. It's the red salute. The Chinese Communist Party, when you're joining it, you have to give the red salute while you recite the pledge to the Chinese Communist Party. It's like, imagine if you could like buy a chocolate with a roman salute on it it's just it's just bonkers that that's acceptable in this country
Starting point is 00:16:31 we're a country of like freedom-loving libertarian individualist types that's that's what the country is founded on yet authoritarian murderous genocidal communism has their symbols everywhere and i think you're right fox news has an article from 2015 that's titled White House Christmas Decor Featuring Mao Zedong Comes Under Fire. And it talks about how Mao Zedong was hanging out with a drag queen in the depiction there. It's, again, an old article. Yeah, it was like a really long time ago, but that's okay in the White House. It's kind of crazy to see so many genociders just uh publicly loved and adored especially che Guevara when you look at his history especially
Starting point is 00:17:08 the way he treated people in the lgbtq community especially how he treated people of color uh the history on that uh when you look at it is very eye-opening to say the least what do we think of the trudeau uh mention of his love of communism no like the the comparison that what's the space is his father oh like it's like this i mean the pictures are funny the pictures are funny yeah i mean and it's like there's weird history that aligns this you know like i like my conspiracy mother meet i think that's what it was like numerous times i i think it's funny because like i was reading a snopes thing and it's like trudeau's mother did meet with castro and it was around the time like it was like in a similar time frame to
Starting point is 00:17:48 when he may have been you know born or but i think they're saying it was like a couple years before anyway they they look quite a bit alike yeah he doesn't look like his father so he doesn't look like he doesn't that's for sure yeah no he's clearly fond of the ideology so maybe fidel castro was a milkman in Canada. Maybe he's just trying to grab onto his father's legacy. I don't know. It's the funniest things about these things where it's like, while it is true that Trudeau does look like him
Starting point is 00:18:14 and he doesn't look like his father, and his mother did meet Castro and did travel down there, it's debunked. It's not. And you're like, well, what do you mean? Do you have any evidence? This is the thing. Snopes is giving us reason to believe it's actually true.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Not necessarily Snopes, but these other, a bunch of fact checks. It's like all of these points you're making about, you know, coincidence and happenstance are evidence in the positive, and then you just come out right and say, but it doesn't actually make sense, therefore it's debunked. We see that so often with fact checks in the media. Well they just they just pick and choose whatever they want to of course work for their larger agenda i did hear that the years don't add up and that the year that the photos that are circulating uh don't add up to when he was born there's other people arguing it was ivf yeah i don't know how advanced was that at the time i don't know if they had that history during that specific time.
Starting point is 00:19:05 He's not that old. But there's other people. Special package on dry ice delivered to the Trudeau household. But here's the thing. Special delivery. It doesn't match up for that time that she met him. There's plenty of people that still see people without anybody knowing as well. The other people are arguing that there was specific meetings that happened between them. A whirlwind romance.
Starting point is 00:19:23 That were not documented. I mean, that happened. Free internet, of course. Fidel, I can't do this. My husband will find out. This needs to be made into a soap opera. I like to believe that it's true. I'm just going to keep trying to believe that it's true.
Starting point is 00:19:36 The Generalissimo. No, my son. He's not my son. All right, let's talk about Ted Cruz. Here we go. From CNN. Protesters interrupt Ted Cruz's interview on The View. Do you guys see this?
Starting point is 00:19:50 Ted Cruz was on The View and it was disrupted by protesters and it was really funny that people were saying that it was the cat with the salad meme because The View women, like Whoopi Goldberg, were screaming at the audience
Starting point is 00:20:00 to like stop yelling and Ted Cruz was just laughing. It's like having a good time. So you have these climate change protesters appearing on The View. audience to like stop yelling and ted cruz was just laughing it's like having a good time so so you have these climate change protesters appearing on the view they're screaming while ted cruz is talking and they're they're they're protesting oil or whatever i don't know what group they're with cover climate now they yelled here's the best part we're 15 days away from the midterm elections early voting is already happening and the number one issue right now on people's minds
Starting point is 00:20:26 for the most part is the economy and gas prices. So when you have a Republican on the view in front of all these people and you're screaming no more gas, no more fossil fuels, Ted Cruz, many should have been like, well, I assure you if you vote Republican, we'll make sure there will be more
Starting point is 00:20:42 of it. And then the prices will come down. But think, like, these activists, look, my conspiracy theory on this one is that they're being they're being hired by republicans oh i don't know about that including the soup can girls soup can girls uh or non-binary individuals well apparently it's an heiress to the getty oil fortune who's been providing some funding to them and and so i'm saying, I'm not saying it's true. I'm saying it's conspiracy theory. Why right before the midterms are anti-oil activists acting a fool, making the left look really, really bad. And when gas prices are freaking people out,
Starting point is 00:21:16 you know what I mean? It's just, I'm not literally saying the Republicans are paying them. I'm saying they may as well be. All Republicans would be clapping and cheering for this. To be fair, we don't, like the the Republicans never fight, like, right anyway, and they don't fight dirty like that.
Starting point is 00:21:29 That's probably been one of our biggest weaknesses, so I couldn't give them that much credit for thinking that far ahead. They're literally screaming, no more oil. Like, what are you going to be using then? They're literally calling for mass murder. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. They don't understand the larger consequences if we get rid of oil. Or maybe they do understand the larger consequences consequences and they just don't care or maybe maybe they just want
Starting point is 00:21:49 to get rid of people they're consequentialists they care like they care about the earth and not the people you know what i mean like do i care about the the the centipede that i step on as it's like you're running towards me i'm like ah it's not a beat it's like i care to get rid of it you know what i mean like do you care about the wasps you spray you care in the sense that they they have alerted you to their presence you don't like them and now you're doing away with them you know what you say i think that we can have the same comforts and luxuries that we have now without fossil fuels well don't they well at least they want to survive. What I'm saying is, they think we can have the same comfort as we do now without fossil fuels if tons of people
Starting point is 00:22:30 die. You see what I'm saying? You know, like, when I see a wasp's nest on my porch, I care. That is not a good thing. And so I spray them and the wasps die. So they care, but not in the way you'd think a human is supposed to care
Starting point is 00:22:45 about another human. Yeah, my favorite thing is seeing all the garbage left after a lot of these climate change rallies. My second favorite thing was recently seeing a video of these people
Starting point is 00:22:53 gluing their hands to the street. And then one of the ladies doing that glued her hand and took toxic super glue and just threw it down the drain
Starting point is 00:23:03 right afterwards with a sign that says we need to protect the environment i mean these people could be making legitimate actions there are legitimate things that we could do to start cleaning things up especially in our environment especially when it comes to holding multinational corporations accountable especially when it comes to holding china accountable but they're not doing any of that their their end goal is to essentially punish everyone for for not paying enough taxes to the government, which is such an MKUltra mind control belief that it's just mind boggling being able to sit here saying,
Starting point is 00:23:31 these people think if you give the government more money, the weather's going to be gooder. That makes no sense at all. The funny thing is, is that like this is a picture of there's a bunch. Look, you Google search garbage at climate rally, and there's just like thousands of photos. Absolutely. These people don't care. But I was saying, Superglue, like just them purchasing Superglue,
Starting point is 00:23:49 you're supporting the petroleum industry. Like how many, like they don't realize how it's in everything. Maybe they shoplifted it. Probably. But then throwing it down the sewer. I mean, come on. That's just.
Starting point is 00:23:59 They're also putting their money where their mouth is by not bathing. That's true. Saving water. And not having kids so true or aborting them so it's like the end result of leftism is it just won't exist in 50 years i'm okay with that kind of like i'm okay with people like you know i'm not okay with that no no no that's terrible it's not no but what i'm you know you want you want you want to tell people
Starting point is 00:24:25 that they can have uh abortions and they can sterilize their kids no i don't want anybody to have abortions i think that's murder but i do think that if there's like a bunch of people like running roughshod in north philly and cops are getting killed all the time then fine let them go shoot each other well i mean i suppose as an issue of defund the police that's what they've been arguing for so it sounds like you're just saying you're in favor of... No, I'm saying fund the police. Fund it extra. But not there, I mean.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Yeah, fund it where they're not being crazy and that they don't support defund the police. Put extra cops there. I'm saying this, like, look, if the end result of... Let me put it this way. The left comes out and says women have a right to choose
Starting point is 00:25:02 to get an abortion. Okay. They say... We were just watching the Ron DeSantis, Charlie Crist debate. And Ron asks Charlie Crist about child sex changes. And Crist keeps bringing up abortion. He doesn't answer the question. He says abortion, abortion, a woman's choice. And it's like, okay, dude.
Starting point is 00:25:19 If a group of people are burning the country to the ground, running through the streets, smashing windows, burning everybody. Then they come out and it's their political position. They should be able to abort their children and sterilize them. I don't understand. I mean, I do understand why conservatives are mad about it, but it's also just kind of a funny thing where it's like the people who you think are evil and destroying everything are also like ending their genetic line. And so it's just like, look, I've tweeted this and I will say it again. One of the most shocking things to me is that you can question Fauci and get banned from every platform. You can question the CDC and get banned from every platform. You could be a doctor who contributed to the invention of mRNA and they ban you.
Starting point is 00:26:06 But if you come out on Twitter several times and say, consider spaying and neutering your children to save the planet, nobody cares. Not a single hit piece, no criticism, no jokes, no mockery. You can say, please, please abort your kids. There's too many people already. Not a single thing. It's shocking to me that I just feel like that should be like cancel culture worthy
Starting point is 00:26:31 to come out and be like, you should abort your kids and sterilize them. They should be like, you stop. No, no, they cheer for it. And they're the ones who pretend to be the champions of the poor when they think it would be better to be dead than poor.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Stacey Abrs said abort poor people they literally say that i was doing i was doing a one-on-one video and we i was debating some guy on the street in front of like the supreme court and he i said your argument there is that um it's better it's better to be dead than be poor and he goes yes that's exactly what i'm saying i was like like i didn't know what to say i just looked at him like you can't be serious like what's the end result if they all start sterilizing their kids and getting abortions?
Starting point is 00:27:09 I mean... In 50 years, they're gone. Here's my problem. You can't kill enough people that there won't be poor people. No, no, no. Just liberals. He's talking about the left.
Starting point is 00:27:17 What I'm saying is these people, it is... This is the crazy thing. It is politically correct to say that the left should be allowed to abort their children and sterilize their children. How is that? That sounds like nightmarishly genocidal, but for some reason, it is a political position held by Democrats. It's trendy, according to the agenda and narrative that they're trying to push on everybody. And yeah, I mean, you could,
Starting point is 00:27:45 according to who you talk to, Mary, you could take out a lot of poor people, especially if you're talking to individuals like Bill Gates and all these other people who are pushing this larger agenda against everyone else. Well, specifically, he wants to take them out in Africa, not in the West. And in India, too. He's doing a lot of projects there as well. It's not genocidal because
Starting point is 00:28:02 they've dehumanized that, right? Like, they say it's a clump of cells or it's not it's not legitimately but their own kids i know i'm not saying it's right no i mean like sterilizing their kids too i didn't hear that well yeah they're giving they're they're they're they're giving puberty blockers and other drugs which are something completely different like that's like munchausen syndrome by no no no no that is what mothers are doing they're trying to do that for attention. Right. Sure.
Starting point is 00:28:26 And for whatever is a bunch of different reasons for abortions. The point is both result in the left erasing themselves from from. Yes. So why should we complain? Well, so look, because children are the battleground of this whole. Well, then school school choices, whatever you want to call it, then school choices, the battlefield so if if the argument right now is it is politically correct to to allow people to abort their kids
Starting point is 00:28:51 and sterilize their kids and that is what youtube says is the right thing to say conservatives don't do it liberals do do it then okay well all right there you go you get what you want and in 50 years there's no left. But there's some intrinsic morality that's there. Like you can't go to the pearly gates of heaven and look at God and say, hey, you know, I didn't do anything to stop it because it would erase all leftists. And I was happy about that. Like you have to live with your own conscience. I think that's where the Republicans, the right wing comes in with that. And I understand conservatives are desperately trying to save even the people they really don't like. It's a fascinating phenomenon. My point is just that. And they're happy to kill us. Like, let's not. I mean, they're running. Oh, look at the guy in Florida who's mercilessly beaten. Look at
Starting point is 00:29:33 Aaron Danielson. But no, my point is not to say that Republicans should, you know, eschew morality and ethics and let horrible things happen to kids. It's that the machine itself is destroying itself. The establishment is destroying itself with its own policies. And the end result is either going to be an Islamic world or just a conservative religious Abrahamic world of some degree. I was saying that earlier this morning because all of these factions are all of a sudden like attacking. The feminists are getting mad at this LGBT trans kid agenda, or women taking over sports. But the funnier one is the Muslim community.
Starting point is 00:30:12 They've been more outspoken, especially about the transitioning and the stuff and LGBT agenda being in their schools. All of a sudden, things that they wouldn't report on, especially in the UK about all the grooming gangs and stuff, all of a sudden there's a grooming gang crisis. And I really think it's because they've been speaking out more about the trans agenda and the LGBT stuff in the schools because they won't have that. They are totally incompatible. And also, then it breaks down these coalition building that the left is trying to do. To me, I think it's important to fight for everyone, even the deranged lunatics and the
Starting point is 00:30:47 leftists. I think everyone's important. We are all a part of humanity. And that's kind of my like hippy dippy kind of worldview the way I see it. But also in a larger perspective, I think we have to understand we're also facing a major population crisis. Elon Musk likes to talk about this a lot. It's happening very severely in China right now, but in the United States, and particularly in Europe, we're seeing the decline of the current civilization, of the current population there to drastic levels, where soon there's not going to be enough people to repopulate. And with that comes major crises towards our entire infrastructure, towards our entire economic system, towards our entire way of life. So just just on that own population crisis, we need to fight like hell. So there are more lives in the future to
Starting point is 00:31:31 make sure that there's not as much chaos. Let me pull this story from the Independent. Biden slams Republican attempts to ban gender affirming health care in interview with transgender TikTok star. Maybe you guys saw this one. The president's conversation comes as Republicans continue to pass numerous anti-transgender pieces of legislation. Biden met with Dylan Mulvaney. My personal opinion is that Dylan Mulvaney is intentionally trying to insult and mock trans people and women
Starting point is 00:31:55 and that is not behaving seriously. Ultimate troll? That's what you're thinking? I think Dylan Mulvaney is absolutely trolling. I don't think so. Absolutely. I think that Mulvaney is absolutely trolling. I don't think so. Absolutely. I think that he has like arrested development
Starting point is 00:32:08 from his childhood years and that's how he pictures women and yeah, he's going to exclude it. I got one point for you. Wearing high heels in the woods. I think that's what he meant. That's like what is insane. These people are men. You girls don't don't do that no when you reduce femininity down to those uh consumerist objects really um yeah if
Starting point is 00:32:36 it's what you think uh if it's arrested development and sort of a child's view of i think all of it is arrested about women no maybe That's how it manifests. I feel like that's naive. Dylan has that viral video saying, these are my hiking heels. That is a phrase that doesn't exist. Barbie pouch. What's the other thing?
Starting point is 00:32:55 There's a bunch of insulting words that Dylan uses to mock women in their TikTok videos. But that's how a lot of these transgender people are anyway. Like they're big caricatures. But that's how a lot of these transgender people are anyway. Like they're big caricatures. Is that mutually exclusive with being genuinely dysphoric?
Starting point is 00:33:11 So if you take a look at, I'll use two examples that I've used before and that's ContraPoints and Blair White. They are both prominent political trans people and they do not behave that way.
Starting point is 00:33:22 They behave like, and neither does Contra. They are both, you can disagree with either of their politics and they do not behave that way. They behave like, and neither does Contra. They are both, you can disagree with either of their politics and they both create well-made YouTube videos discussing their points because just because someone is trans does not mean they're going to be inherently
Starting point is 00:33:35 one way or the other. And Blair brings up the proper point. But I don't think Blair has arrested development either. I mean, like she's- That's why I'm arguing when Dylan Mulvaney makes a video wearing heels in the woods going i'm a girl like that's that's a come on you think that's not trolling like if someone put on blackface started running around screaming fried chicken we'd be
Starting point is 00:33:55 like that dude is trying to insult black people not that they have arrested development they think they're black i think that he's exploiting it and using it to his advantage, but I think he is definitely mentally ill. And, and like, because he was like a gay guy in theater. Right. And he was on Broadway or something like that. I got like a little crazy and I was bored and I watched a lot of his videos
Starting point is 00:34:17 like over and over again a couple of days ago. But like, I really think they have that look that like SSRI mentally ill look. Why go by Dylan after transition? That's a girl. No, no. Look, don't be. This is the game right here.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I don't think if you when you look at Dylan Mulvaney, what do I see? I see someone who has created a caricature which creates a weapon for people to attack trans people. Because I'll mention it again. Blair White and ContraPoints. Left and right, extremely prominent and normal behaviors. Granted,
Starting point is 00:34:50 you can disagree with the idea of being trans or doing dysphoria and say it's in the DSM-5. Therefore, you know, it's considered a mental disorder according to DSM-5.
Starting point is 00:34:58 But what about him, like, really going through the process, getting laser hair removal on his face and actually doing the physical steps? Like, I would think that he would be more of a troll if he didn't commit to it physically if that's a troll that's psychotic obviously he's definitely psychotic and if it's a mocking caricature
Starting point is 00:35:14 like you say like blackface i think the reason that it would be more effective and powerful as a way to mock women um compared to blackface is that like your gender is a lot more uh crucial to who you are like who you are as a person than your race i think your race is just a surface level thing about you but your gender is way more uh core to who you are and how you relate to people but more egregious than that is that the White House is entertaining it like it's something serious to be talked about. Like there are so many other things going on. But sure. So here's an easy question, though. So like regardless of who's right on whether, you know, Blair said Dylan is not trolling and I OK, but I look at this.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Why didn't the White House invite ContraPoints? ContraPoints has a million million plus subscribers getting millions of views on these these hour-long essays that are extremely prominent on the left with that that that are calm well and well put together videos again you can disagree with it but it's more left or right i don't want leftist okay because i i know blair's right so right that's why i bring up these two specific examples because they're very prominent uh you know a contra has like a million and a half subscribers gets millions of views joe biden could have been like here's a person i can bring here to talk about these issues that is calm rational and and politically prominent dylan mulvaney is not politically prominent and if you're trying to advocate for trans rights the
Starting point is 00:36:39 last person any anyone would bring is going to be dylan mulvaney here's the thing though like their comms team everybody knows that when you're working in political comms you insert yourself into the news cycle and Dylan has been in the news cycle where Contra has I've never heard of it but I've definitely heard of it might be Dylan before before the White House it might be conscious internet footprint if you will that also substantially makes Dylan Mulvaney better. Substantially larger. Yeah, but it's the internet footprint that they don't want because that's something that you have to answer for. And it's timing. I remember Contra's old, old videos.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Like, those were kind of politically incorrect. I think it's more timing. There's something to answer for there. You try to insert yourself into the news cycle. You hit on something that's big. He just had a couple videos that went viral, and they're trying to capitalize on it that's that's shallow is easier but hey guys the memes are awesome the memes are incredible when it comes to this entire topic especially when they had another influencer take over the communications at the white house
Starting point is 00:37:39 and they were just tick tocking the whole time around uh the nails yeah yeah today just moments ago i also tweeted uh the american people looking all disheveled, saying, please, I can't afford food or gas. And then Danny DeVito coming off and saying, best I could do is this transgender here that we're going to be talking about. And as you mentioned, Tim, you're absolutely right. This is not an issue that, of course, brings America together. This is an issue that divides America. The administration right now has many problems. Our society has many problems that we're facing right now. And this is this is what we're talking about. This is what they're pushing forward as their agenda. To me,
Starting point is 00:38:11 this is a perfect way to distract people, to divide and conquer them, to have no fighting amongst themselves as society literally crumbles all around. So let's advance conversation to the next point in the article. Joe Biden coming out and saying states should not be allowed to ban sex changes for children. And to me, I'm wondering why? What is what did the Democrat Bill Maher made this point when they were talking about it was I think it was in 2020 or in 2018. Democrats were advocating for transgender rights in prisons. And Bill Maher said, I get it. We want to protect civil rights, but this is like 300 people. Why are they putting it front and center? Now you could argue, of course, hey man,
Starting point is 00:38:52 marginalized, the most marginalized voices probably need the most help because no one pays attention to them for exactly what Bill Maher is saying. No one's paying attention to this small group of people, therefore someone needs to. But when Joe Biden comes out choosing an extremely, extremely divisive issue and one that is extremely unpopular, I have to wonder why. Whose vote is he trying to secure by coming out and saying children should get sex changes? I don't know whose vote he's trying to secure, but I will say that, you know, this all it all goes back to the um the civil right the civil rights era legislation and so no matter what these like small minorities do as long as they couch it in
Starting point is 00:39:32 civil rights language they're never going to get beat no matter what the vote says because it's like enshrined in quote the constitution so they can say whatever they want like it the voting population won't matter it may like slow it or or or you know if we object to it temporarily but it's enshrined in law that like if you couch anything in you know civil rights terminology that it's going to stay like that so i mean i guess he's just trying to be on quote the eventual right side of history because that's what's going to happen given what we did in the in what 64 i think one thing the democrats do and all politicians is try is compartmentalize information and they don't know how to do it right now and that's the problem the example being hillary clinton when she was 2015 i think she went to where was it arkansas or alabama with the hot
Starting point is 00:40:19 sauce no she put on southern drawl oh you talk a little like this and it's like hillary you were in new york for the longest time on TV. We know you don't talk like that. But back in the old days, you could get away with that. Imagine what it must have been like campaigning before radio. You'd show up to Boston and you'd put on a Boston accent. People would be like, hey, he sounds just like me. And then you go to New York and you say both instead of both.
Starting point is 00:40:42 And all of a sudden people think you sound like them. Then you go down to South and you talk like this and everyone's like but no one could know how you really talk you can't write down you know if someone was at an accent or something right that's true then we get radio then we get tv then we get the internet even with tv local news is not going to play the video of Hillary Clinton in you know New York's not going to play the Alabama footage they're going to play the New York footage now we have the internet all of a sudden there's a viral video of Hillary Clinton putting on a know, New York's not going to play the Alabama footage. They're going to play the New York footage. Now we have the internet. All of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:41:07 there's a viral video of Hillary Clinton putting on a fake accent. All of a sudden, there's even AOC. She just did it. I was just going to say, yeah, she just played us. So weird.
Starting point is 00:41:12 She did it more than us. People said that she was imitating that meme where that little kid is like, listen, Linda, listen. I think that they were, that she was doing that or was she just trying
Starting point is 00:41:20 to fake the accent? It's not that one. There was another event she went to a couple, it was like a year or two ago where she had a really heavy Latina accent, even though everyone's like, That's so phony.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Where did she go to school? Like Boston University or something? You don't talk like that. That's crazy. My favorite thing about that whole clip was she's like, Oh, classy, classy. That's what they say. And she's sitting there like spread eagle
Starting point is 00:41:41 in the middle on the stage. And she's like, He classy. And her legs are like spread open out on the floor for everyone. I'm like, Oh, like in the middle, on the stage. And she's like, be classy. And her legs are like spread open out on the floor for everybody. I'm like, oh, you're so gross. She's so gross. I think when Joe Biden has someone
Starting point is 00:41:52 like Dylan Mulvaney at the White House, what they're probably looking at is this is a person who has all of these Gen Z followers. So whatever we say here doesn't apply outside this bubble, right? Like they still live in this world where they think meeting with this influential person won't ripple outwards. Go back 50 years, meet with a civil rights leader and do an interview talking about how you're going to defend their work. You're hoping that civil rights leader will go out to all of their
Starting point is 00:42:21 followers and say, here's what they told me. But is someone who's not a fan of that person going to listen to what they have to say? No. What Biden is hoping for is 100 people hear what I've just said today and vote for me, and maybe only 10 people hear it outside of this bubble and get mad at me for it. Compartmentalizing the information, thinking you can say whatever you want because it won't reach the outer, the larger public. So I think there's like different factions that are interested in this trans agenda thing, right?
Starting point is 00:42:53 You have big pharma that's going to make tons of money on it, not just with the drugs themselves, but with like, even if you're confusing children, years and years of therapy, like that all costs money, right? So big pharma has an interest
Starting point is 00:43:03 in propping up this stuff right the left does because they think it's like the sympathy where the good guys vote and then you also have like the creeps that took advantage of like the regular lgbt stuff and say hey if we couch it in these same terms then you know we can have pedophilia whatever so you've all these interests that while are not the same because you know everybody on the right like the left says oh you're talking about they like who's the they where's the big conspiracy theories it's not like that they're all in like there's one guy like pulling the strings and of course there might be a couple that are really influential but they all have competing interests like big pharma definitely has an interest in pushing this um along with you know well every
Starting point is 00:43:43 company that makes money yeah well they they get patients that are hooked for the rest of their lives you get them in early especially the young children you're going to have someone that's going to be buying your product every single month because they need to in order to live and then they dump money into his campaign remember the report that said it was something like pharmaceutical or wall street said that cures are probably bad business yep it was a goldman sach Wall Street said that cures are probably bad business. Yeah, it was a Goldman Sachs assessment saying maybe we shouldn't cure people because that will hurt our profit motive. This is the kind of satanic megalomaniacal thinking of these lunatics who are essentially truly calling the shots, have the big corporate lobbyists.
Starting point is 00:44:23 And when you look at Dylan Mulvaney, like how do you explain him, again, testing tampons, but then the next day trying to normalize women having bulges? This is just... That's why I'm saying it's a troll. It's a troll. This is a desperate need for clout. That's what it is. I just looked at Dylan Mulvaney's Instagram story
Starting point is 00:44:39 and saw a picture captioned, peeing at the White House. I'm telling you, this person... Like, that's just somebody who is desperate for clout. I wouldn't be surprised if, in a year, Dylan Mulvaney comes out and says, you are all so dumb. Because all this is,
Starting point is 00:44:55 is mocking women and mocking trans people. Now, we have to ask ourselves, why is this happening? I mean, according to a Tefaga poll, 80% of Americans don't support gender treatment for children. So, why are they doing this? why is this happening i mean according according to a tafalgar poll or 80 percent poll uh 80 percent of americans don't support gender treatment for children so why are they doing this is it someone at the white house saying hey dylan movini's getting all these views maybe if we get him to the white house we'll get him to support our cause and get and tell everyone to vote for us but
Starting point is 00:45:17 people don't understand maybe people are just watching because it's a car crash all right i got a conspiracy theory for you china wants trump Trump to win. Saudi Arabia wants Trump to win. TikTok is controlled by the CCP and they're advancing ideologies that are sabotaging the Democrats because when Trump is president, now a lot of people might think right top of their head. No, Trump was hard on China. That was bad for China. Was it? Donald Trump goes America first, brings manufacturing back to the United States in the short term, bad for China in Was it? Donald Trump goes America first, brings manufacturing back to the United States. In the short term, bad for China. In the long term,
Starting point is 00:45:48 Donald Trump doesn't want to go to war, doesn't care about the Belt and Road Initiative, doesn't care about Africa and South America. Donald Trump cares about America, America first. In the long run, that's actually really good for China. You can make the argument. So TikTok comes out promoting these ideologies
Starting point is 00:46:02 that Democrats embrace and then Democrats lose. Donald Trump gets in. Donald Trump says, I don't understand why we're in NATO. I don't understand why we're in Syria. I don't understand why we're in Afghanistan. China moves in Afghanistan. China moves in other parts of the Middle East. Russia expands their gas monopoly.
Starting point is 00:46:16 All things that may be bad, hypothetically, for other parts of the world or who knows. But most of the people who support trump are like why do we care about these other these things why do we care about you know what other countries are doing why why do we care about intervening in foreign wars in ukraine so china may be looking at the bigger picture like hey if trump is president america gets out of our way well you know biden's giving you know china afghanistan on a silver platter especially when the corporations have come in when you look at the conflict in ukraine you do see china benefit benefiting from it because it's the united states versus russia nato versus russia and they're kind
Starting point is 00:46:55 of in the middle watching two enemies kind of fight each other and destroy themselves this is an opportunity for china to potentially even take tai. So I would just counter that with those two points when it comes to theorizing about this theory. Well, I don't know, man, but let's do this. We got this story from townhall.com. Bipartisan CBS focus group stuns host when panelists agree on almost everything, including woke culture. So the clip's actually a bit long.
Starting point is 00:47:24 What do we have? It's like three and a half minutes. So I'm not going to play the full thing for you, but it really, really is amazing. You've got a Republican, a Democrat, and an Independent, and then they're all just like, she asks the Republican guy, and he's like, you know, I just don't like this indoctrination
Starting point is 00:47:38 of kids in schools with the weird sexual stuff that's for adults. We shouldn't have that. And then she's like, is this your kids? He's like, no, I'm in Texas. But where I was in Iowa, it was bad. And she goes, okay, so you're mad about what's on the news. Then it goes to the black woman in the top left.
Starting point is 00:47:51 And she's like, I agree with all of that. I think it's horrible. I've got a bunch of kids. Then it goes to the woman in the bottom right. And she's like, yeah, I completely agree. And, you know, even with the vaccine mandates and stuff like that and the lockdowns. So here we have one of the most shocking,
Starting point is 00:48:05 I guess, you know, panels so far in the lockdowns. So here we have one of the most shocking, I guess, panels so far in the midterms. We're in the middle of the midterms because we no longer do election day, now it's election month. And we're seeing that at least here, everyone completely agrees. So I'm wondering, I retweeted this person. I don't know who this person is on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:48:24 It's a small account with a few followers. Saying, come the midterms, Democrats are going to win, and the media is going to ask, how could this have happened? And it's because Democrats are secretly hiding, and Republicans are secretly switching to the Democratic Party. And there's no evidence for that claim, but I'm like, all right, I'll retweet that and say, let's revisit this one on the 9th and see what happens. I think this is more evidence, along with all of the polling, which is insane.
Starting point is 00:48:48 The 538 forecast now has basically a coin toss chance that Republicans win both chambers and an 81% chance they at least win the House. I feel like looking at this, it's not so much that it's a red wave or red tsunami. It's that Democrats are quitting, independents are flipping, and Republicans are already 99% in the bag. I have a good conspiracy theory for you, right? Oh, conspiracy. Here we go. So the Democrats, so traditionally when, especially there's a Democrat president in charge, we know that it swings to the opposite party come midterms. So they already knew because of the way the economy is and gas prices and whatever. I think they're chalking it up, letting us win. That's why they're dumping money into like these right wing campaigns and stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Right. You see the Veritas video? Yeah. So but my point is, is what they're going to do is they're going to let us have control of the House and the Senate so that we can, you know, our base, no matter what, is like not strategic. And they're going to be like, you're not in there. You're not doing enough. So then they're going to start pushing in because we've got these further right candidates. They're going to start pushing in more far right policies.
Starting point is 00:49:53 That way, when it comes time for them to get the House, the Senate and the White House again, come 2024, that it's going to be way easier because they're going to go point to all our terrible policies. And that's where theans won't be like chill about it you think joe biden's going to sign these policies into law you think republicans are going to house in the senate's going to pass a bill and biden's gonna be like okay i guess you know i mean depending on depending on what it is it doesn't matter not just not not not just that but the Democrats have no A-listers. None. Name a Democrat A-lister. I can't name one.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Anybody? Not anybody that's worth their salt. Like, who do they have running? In the Republican Party, you at least have Trump and DeSantis. Right. And I'm sure you could probably throw out a couple other B-listers. Well, Swalwell's pretty social. He's out there, you know, meeting a lot of women.
Starting point is 00:50:42 A-lister. Who's got the X factor? None of them. But here's the thing. It doesn't, I don't think it really matters because if they, our base will push us
Starting point is 00:50:50 to start like proposing radical policies and even if Biden doesn't do it, they'll say, you need to keep him in so that they don't ruin our country with all
Starting point is 00:50:57 these crazy things that they're trying to implement. That's a better, I think it's a strategy. They might say, look at the Republican bills that they tried to get through and Biden blocked. If Biden doesn't get reelected, they're getting these things through. You're also
Starting point is 00:51:08 thinking that the Republicans could get something done. I've been very critical of them personally myself. And a lot of the times they come into office and they kind of just sit on their hands, especially when it comes to the Congress. You will have your newer people in there proposing legislation. If you have, what's his face? Arizona, why can't it? Blake Masters. Blake Masters is definitely going to want to go in there and get to work. He's definitely one of those people.
Starting point is 00:51:33 But if he gets pushed enough in these two years by the right base and starts putting in policy that is too far, quote, right, they have something to run on big time in 2024. The Republicans right now, who do they got? They got, I mentioned DeSantis and Trump. That's easy. But Carrie Lake, I feel like Carrie Lake could be president. She's, the way she speaks,
Starting point is 00:51:56 the way she's got a commanding presence, very calm and collected, very quick-witted. Do you think Carrie Lake would want to be president though? You think so? Like when we talked about it. What does that look on your face i just think so i just think it is look you're like i know i'm saying i i definitely think that i mean she's poised to be she's articulate she's great with the media and everybody loves her like if you were to pull regular oh she's amazing right now they say i'd love to see her be president. You know, my bias is, my bias is when we get like politicians
Starting point is 00:52:26 who have come on this show and it's like pulling teeth. And it's just like the campaign has got a bunch of stipulations or there's like weird things. And I'm like, I ignore it. I'm like, bro, you can show up, sit down or whatever. So I respect every politician who's come on the show
Starting point is 00:52:39 because we don't have like a prerequisite list of like talking points. We sit down, I pull up news stories. We talk for a little bit, we go live. and then the conversation goes where it goes i try to be respectful i try to make sure we're being you know you were good to my former boss when he was on here he who was it randy bobber we were talking about oh right yeah yeah that was great you were great but carrie carrie lake she shows up and mtg sits down and says sup yeah and there's like let's just talk and there's no fear there's no it's just we'll talk
Starting point is 00:53:05 about whatever ask a question that's how it should be though i as somebody who would give advice to comms like comms advice to um candidates there's so many times where they just come in twitter spaces and stuff and i'm like stop talking if they were my my like candidate i'd be like stop talking i mean you do as a comms person try to protect them but it's better when they're just real it's better i mean the authenticity is really what matters. We were watching the DeSantis-Chris debate just before we started this. And Charlie Chris pulled a dirty trick because the campaigns agreed that there would be no cross questions between the candidates. They would let the moderator handle things.
Starting point is 00:53:40 And that's the right way to do it. Otherwise, you start yelling at each other and then the audience goes nuts and it's wwe so chris goes ron are you actually gonna be the governor and and finish a four-year term why don't you answer right now and then ron's like is it my time yet okay anyway and then the the moderator's like let me remind the candidates you've agreed not to ask each other the questions and i thought that uh chris got him i agree charlie chris got him by asking that and Ron should have just said yes. That's what you said.
Starting point is 00:54:07 I said that he should have said, I don't know what the political landscape is like right now, but no matter what, I'll take care of it. I think it's more honest. If it were me and I was debating and someone was like, do you want to be president? Are you actually running to be governor
Starting point is 00:54:21 and will you finish four terms? Is that a serious question? Yes, I'm standing here, aren't I? Come on, let's not waste people's time. Okay, obviously I want to be governor and will you finish four terms is that a serious question yes i'm standing here aren't i come on it's not waste people's time okay obviously i want to be the governor obviously i'm here to finish the job do the job and finish the term out let's not play stupid political games okay that's a better answer than just yes i'm just i'm just so sick of the fake everything the fake everything when when deepwater horizon is my favorite example deep water horizon happens and there's oil spilling everywhere and then the PR guy comes out
Starting point is 00:54:48 and says, we're sorry that this happened and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, bro, everyone knows your statement is bullcrap. Every single time a polishing comes out, we know everything coming out of nothing. I don't care who they are. They're just trash coming out. You know when Trump came out today and he was like, you know what you got to do to find
Starting point is 00:55:03 the leaker? You got to take the writer, guy who write it wrote it and you got to lock him up and then once he finds out he's going to become someone's husband then he'll he'll flip and i'm like that's a horrible psychotic thing to say wow but trump just came out and said it that's so crazy that like i didn't hear that when was that like recently there was there's a clip going around it's going viral where trump's yeah he's like i know it's where was that released i tweeted it's on my twitter should i pull it up are we even allowed to post videos of trump talking on twitter anymore i mean he's just saying that you should do you admire that you know he's just willing to say crazy things like that i don't like that he said it I don't like that he holds the idea.
Starting point is 00:55:45 The point I'm bringing up is, here, it's Citizens for Ethics. The honesty is refreshing is what you're saying. Exactly. This is why people vote for him. They're like, well, I think it's bad,
Starting point is 00:55:53 but damn if I'd vote for a liar because when Trump says this, so here's a tweet. Citizens for Ethics says, in this horrifying clip, Donald Trump proposes throwing reporters in jail where they'll be raped
Starting point is 00:56:04 until they give up their sources. His crowd laughed. I think it's a terrible thing. Terrible thing to believe, to say. And I think reporters, if it were me as a reporter and someone said, give me your source, I'd be like, nope. And if Trump said to me, then you're going to get locked up and be raped or whatever or be someone's boyfriend or husband, I'd be like, sucks for you, I guess, because you ain't getting anything from me. But the point is, whenever these politicians come out, 99.9% of the time,
Starting point is 00:56:30 you know they're spewing word diarrhea into your face, like a projectile just spraying you. And you're just like, you waste my time, good sir. And then Donald Trump comes out and says this. The Herschel Walker, when he should have just, the easiest way around the Hel walker stuff with like the abortion and stuff is say i
Starting point is 00:56:48 yeah i did that i'm a different person it was a couple years ago i'm sorry i've heard a lot of people in my life and i've been doing everything i can to make amends i mean people would have respected that a thousand times more than tweeting out like oh that's my son i love him no matter what like everybody's rolling their eyes. Like, stop. I was so mad at their campaign staff for that because, you know, the Republicans are going to vote for him instead of Warnock anyway.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Like, let's be fair. Let's be honest. Trump's comments here definitely bring some interesting context to the Julian Assange saga that he was involved in as well. Let's play this tweet and we'll set a segment for it so we can actually this is what trump this is what trump had to say here so everyone gets the full context in a tweet from
Starting point is 00:57:28 citizens for ethics they say in this horrifying clip donald trump proposes throwing reporters in jail where they'll be raped until they give up their sources his crowd left here we go you know in this country oh wait wait i see i always do that yeah every single time and it's because we were listening to the debate earlier but here you you go. Easily made public. You know, in this country, they leak all over the place, even on the Supreme Court. By the way, you have to find the leaker of the Supreme Court. You have to find the leaker. You know how you find the leaker? They'll say, oh, this is treasonous, what I said. So they can't find the leaker. He leaked all about Roe v. Wade. Look, this person leaked from the Supreme Court, never happened. You know how you
Starting point is 00:58:04 find? But they don't want to mention this because the Supreme Court, never happened. You know how you find? But they don't want to mention this because they think it's so terrible. You take the writer, because you're never going to find it. They're going through phone records. It's been a long time. You take the writer and or the publisher of the paper, a certain paper that you know, and you say, who is the leaker? National Security.
Starting point is 00:58:25 And they say, we're not going to tell you. They say, it's okay, you're going to jail. And when this person realizes that he is going to be the bride of another prisoner very shortly, he will say, I'd very much like to tell you exactly who that leaker is. It was Bill Jones. I swear he's a leaker. And we got him. But they don't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:58:49 They don't want to do that. But that's the only way you're going to find. We have to find. Can you imagine? They leak. So I'll just point out first and foremost that we need prison reform because the idea that you get locked up and rape is a threat against you, I think that violates. Which amendment is that? Cruel and unusual punishment?
Starting point is 00:59:04 Yes. Yeah. Is that this or this? yes yeah yeah yeah i don't know the idea that in our society it is normal and expected and believed that's the case is like okay that's that's cruel unusual punishment well if anything then the leaker should just be charged with treason and then you know to be guilty or not guilty it would be sedition not punished accordingly so uh just just to be guilty or not guilty. It would be sedition, not treason. Punished accordingly. So just to be specific, sedition. They already know who the leaker is anyway. Like, let's stop. They know who the leaker is.
Starting point is 00:59:32 They know who the Gen 6 bomber is. They knew who all those people are. They just don't want to do anything about it because it's on their side. I mean, they have total information surveillance. They have the NSA that literally watches almost every little thing you do and they're playing stupid here.
Starting point is 00:59:44 That's a point to make here. Trump's comments here are atrocious. And again, leakers, whistleblowers. Yeah, I think it's fair. We all make like effed up jokes behind closed doors. He just says it in the open. I think that's actually fair. But the larger point that I was going to make here, as I said, his comments are, okay, you can.
Starting point is 01:00:03 But his comments are atrocious i i think what this country has done to leakers and whistleblowers is immoral but when you look at his administration it was filled with leakers and he didn't do anything when you look at the obama administration he was very heavy-handed on leakers threw them in jail and used the espionage act against them trump didn't even go that far. But these comments are bombastic. These comments are over the line. Hyperbolic. Yeah. That's why I agree with Mary that Trump's obviously joking because he did not
Starting point is 01:00:32 go after these people in this way. Obama did. Obama arrested journalists, literally, and Trump is only making gross comments about arresting journalists. But then we have the Julian Assange story. That's true, though. Julian Assange is a leaker. No, no's true, though. Julian Assange is a leaker. No, no, he's not.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Julian Assange was a journalist who was helping leakers release information. And this is the person that Trump would take in jail and essentially have, you know, what he said there. And if you look at, you know, Julian Assange, Donald Trump said that he was a hero a couple years ago. Now he acts like he doesn't know who he is. He failed to pardon him. Donald Trump said that he was a hero a couple years ago. Now he acts like he doesn't know who he is. And the reason that he failed to pardon him, according to some sources,
Starting point is 01:01:11 according to the information that we've got, was because Julian Assange wouldn't leak who was the source of the information when it came to a lot of the Hillary Clinton emails. And because of that, Donald Trump, and because of the pushing by Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump, didn't pardon Julian Assange and decided to do Kodak Black. So I just want to clarify that point. Barack Obama, the president before Trump, locked up journalists, locked up whistleblowers. Spied on them. Spied on them.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Adam Schiff released the private phone records of John Solomon and Donald Trump said nasty things. I don't like that Trump said these nasty things. I think it's a scary thing to say. But you've got all these leftists that are like, he's so evil. Well, how come these people vote for him? And I'm like, bro, you voted for Obama. Obama went after that Fox News reporter like more than once.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Who was that guy? Do you remember that guy? James Risen. Was that his name? I think so. Yeah. So come on. we also have uh other stories that i'll that i'll i'll leave more vague of bark is journalists who died like the the bark is lighter than the bite like do you really want he's always been that way yeah like he doesn't he doesn't really come down as harshly as you'd want him to um a lot of times and i'm not saying that i agree with what he said because i don't but it's always been that he has a penchant
Starting point is 01:02:24 for hyperbole. I feel like it's a Northeast thing and the rest of the world doesn't seem to get that. He also doesn't do favors for the people that you want him to do favors for. The reason that he pardoned those rappers is essentially that he is obsessed with being liked, being popular. He comes from the entertainment industry. That's what he's about. And it shows. So are you guys going to vote for Trump 2024?
Starting point is 01:02:50 Yep. Yes. Looks like no. What's your alternative, Luke? Not, you know, being a part of a divide and conquer system, not being a part of a system that, of course, again, it depends who's running, first of all. Who's out there? If Dave Smith is out there, if Peter's out there, if I don't think it is. a lot of his policies. He was different. He shuffled things up. He definitely rattled some parts of the establishment, but he definitely coddled
Starting point is 01:03:26 another part of the establishment. And I think we could do a lot better. And when someone is ego focused, could we do better? I think so. I think we could absolutely do a lot better. I think there's a lot of potential.
Starting point is 01:03:35 He had the experience issue. He didn't have the right people surrounding him. I think that, you know, years in there will help. DeSantis seems like the better fit because he has the experience or he did,
Starting point is 01:03:46 but he has that under his belt now. And I think that he would be a little more cautious and look back and see what he's done wrong and surround himself with better people this time. And actually listen, maybe. I mean, seeing these comments and then seeing what he says about the vaccine, seeing how he says-
Starting point is 01:04:01 Oh, I didn't like the vaccine. Seeing him just coddle the big pharma and criticize people who are against it, that right there should highlight something. Along with just all the other things he did before. But that wasn't even about the vaccine. That was still about Trump and his ego.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Not being able to admit that he might be wrong. But he doesn't want to admit hiring people like Bolton, bringing him on. He wanted to have Bill Gates as a science advisor okay that that's that's a huge red flag for me and and as soon as you're trying to get bill gates in positions of power in government to regulate things in your life you're gonna have some problems so i don't think ron de santis will run against trump he i don't think he will either i absolutely think he will only run if
Starting point is 01:04:44 trump doesn't, if there's like a hole to fill there. I would, I would, I would probably, I would rather vote for DeSantis. But if the issue is, you know, if it's between Trump and DeSantis and they're both running, then I'd just be like, well, it's a coin toss between the two. And if it's Trump and nobody else, it's Trump. I'm not, I mean, Trump saying he's going to fire all of these bureaucrats or try to, that's what a schedule left stuff. I mean, certainly not going to be a Democrat. What do they even stand for?
Starting point is 01:05:10 Claiming they want to end fossil fuels and then begging the Saudis for oil. There's no platform there. At the very least, Republicans are like, we don't like the wokeness in the government. And I'm like, okay, those things are illegal and they shouldn't be there anyway. At least I can vote for that. No wars under Trump. I have no problem, just for the record, I have no problem criticizing Donald Trump. I criticized him in a video, like a long one,
Starting point is 01:05:27 about the $2,000 stimulus. That was pathetic that he was advocating for that. That was like really bad. There's a lot of things that I didn't agree that he did, but I think that overall it was better than
Starting point is 01:05:38 any of the alternatives. I won at Rand Paul originally. People are saying unsubscribe from Luke Uncensored. That's fine. That's fine. That's okay. And I've been expressing these opinions
Starting point is 01:05:48 from the very beginning. I'm seeing the comments. I read all the comments all the time. I'm not here. I'm not here just to please people in the comment section.
Starting point is 01:05:56 I have my own thoughts and I'm not here to just go along with the groupthink. And I think it's important to challenge certain narratives. Yes, ghost girl with your little sigh here. It's important to question things. It's important to challenge certain narratives. Yes, ghost girl with your little sigh here.
Starting point is 01:06:05 It's important to question things. It's important to question anyone in authority, especially when there's so much that you could go back on and you could say, and I don't want to be that person that says, oh, you could just go back and criticize everything. No, no, no. It's important to hold people's feet to the fire, including when they do things that actually hurt people.
Starting point is 01:06:23 And when the Trump administration brought in the two weeks to slow the spread, when they brought in Dr. Fauci, when they brought in Operation Warp Speed, they caused a lot of irrevocable damage to society, to this country. When they started handing out checks to random individuals, that's a problem right there. All right. And if you're not willing to hold your own party accountable, you're not willing to be the best party that there could be. And yes, other parties, absolute crap.
Starting point is 01:06:47 But I don't want to choose between one piece of dog crap and another piece of horse crap. But that's just me. But hold on. Hold on right now. Between the two of you. What what Lisa is saying is Trump made a lot of mistakes. I agree with you. But I think he's learned from those.
Starting point is 01:07:00 And he's he's expressed that he has. And you're saying he made mistakes. Therefore, he's irredeemable. No, I don't think he redeemed himself on those mistakes. If he comes forward and says, hey guys, maybe putting Fauci in power, maybe doing Operation Warp Speed.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Fauci was already there. He could have fired him. What is Trump saying right now about the vaccine? That's an important aspect here, right? That plays along into a lot of different things. And what he's saying right now, I can't even mention here probably on this show, but
Starting point is 01:07:26 there should be a larger debate about that specific issue. That should be a warning sign to everyone. Let me ask you guys, do you think the Republicans, if they win every branch, do you think they will ban abortion nationwide? I don't think they should.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Let me just put it this way. I don't think they should in the next two years. Do you think they will in the next four? 2024. It's November. I don't know if Election Day is going to fall in November. Donald Trump wins to gap presidency. The Republicans secure the hold on the House, the Senate. They got the Supreme Court 6-3.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Trump wins the presidency. And now they have the supreme court six to three trump wins the presidency and now they have the path cleared before them do you think they ban abortion nationwide 27 28 possibility yeah after those midterms yep after those midterms i don't know though because historically it would be a democrat flip so they have to do it before it's actually more only historically a democrat flip when there's a democrat president when you look at the numbers like yeah it doesn't actually happen as much as if a republican the swing isn't as the swing is mostly when the when the democrats yeah when there's it's it's more extreme when there's a democrat okay do you think the republicans want to ban abortion i don't
Starting point is 01:08:37 i don't i want to ask you about like political expediency is it within the republican agenda to ban abortion nationwide i don't think they will if it were in their agenda i think that more would have happened on that front i think they like to tout it a lot and that's like exactly what i have the problem i have with like the trad life like while i believe in everything that they say it's like the people that are always espousing it are the worst where did they come from i don't know i mean i like what they say yeah women should stay home i, I shouldn't be forced to like, you know, work. Whatever. Not the point.
Starting point is 01:09:07 The point is, that's a whole nother day. I believe in everything they're saying. But if you ever look or look at the personal lives of the people that are actually like promoting that stuff, they are like the most vile ones out of all of them. And so it's kind of like, I don't think, while the Republicans sure like to tout it a lot, I think that the majority of them just like to say the words. I mentioned this a couple times. I visited Gettysburg, read a whole bunch of plaques. And actually, I mean, for people who don't know the area, where we are with Harper's Ferry, with Antietam, we ride our bikes to Antietam Battlefield for like coffee coffee it's really crazy
Starting point is 01:09:46 to like you know growing up in chicago not seeing this stuff and everywhere you go there's like these these these historical plaques they have explaining what happened there and there's cannons everywhere and then i watch this documentary and i thought to myself uh if the republicans that abortion is very much the same same on the same moral level as slavery. It's not necessarily, you know, there could be arguments on one being worse than the other. I'm not saying that. I'm saying as an issue of moral conflict, I think that it is very likely the Republicans do ban abortion.
Starting point is 01:10:21 It does cause a dramatic escalation. And I do think that abortion, if we are to follow the historical track in human rights expansion, abortion will be outright banned. It will be abolished completely. And then we will look back on whatever civil war happens because of it, assuming it does, the same way we look at slavery. That is not an opinion personally about pro-choice or pro-life. It's an opinion about historical track records. But do you really think that like women are the people that care about the abortion? Do you think that there would be a civil war about over abortion? I don't. Like what woman is going to get out there and go in the streets and fight?
Starting point is 01:10:56 This is exactly the point. People don't know enough about the civil war, neither do I. When I actually went, went to Gettysburg for the first time, and in fact, living out here, talked to a lot of people, you know, met people out here who've told me stories, went up to Gettysburg and then actually read everything and talked to a few people. Then I watched this documentary. I was like, wow, what percentage of people in the United States own slaves at the time of the civil war? I think it was 5%. So if you came out and said, come on, slave owners, you think there's gonna be a fight, a civil war over slavery when only when the confederacy is is four million uh white population and only 25 percent own slaves
Starting point is 01:11:31 that's only five percent of the entire country that was also tied up in males male ego in that like hey this is like this is our our state or this is what we believe in whatever when it comes to abortion it's a female that's's why when Roe v. Wade... A lot of people are in the chat disagreeing, saying men care. No, but hold on one. We're divided by states right now. Some states are banning,
Starting point is 01:11:52 some states are enshrining. No, but that's not what I'm saying. Didn't you notice that when Roe v. Wade was overturned, we had no riots? None. Where were the riots? They just automatically disappeared, right?
Starting point is 01:12:01 It's supposed to be one of the hottest issues there, and we had zero riots. People prepared for them. People did everything. Nope, but when George Floyd gets killed or whatever, it has to,
Starting point is 01:12:10 men are not going to go out and fight so that you can, so that women, for women, anything. I'm telling you, you got to read more about the Civil War in that case. I mean, I see what you're saying,
Starting point is 01:12:19 but the comparison is that. The idea that the average southerner went out and grabbed a gun saying slavery, hoo-ha. The government of the Confederacy was trying to enshrine slavery for sure, but the average southerner that was fighting was not a slave owner. But it wasn't a woman's issue. They don't care. Men are not going to get up and fight over a woman's issue.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Because abortion is primarily about women being sexually available for men. But also, I think you're completely wrong. This is a moral issue of human rights. No, I agree that it's a moral issue of human rights. But men are not going to be driven to the streets. They weren't. They were not rioting in the streets when Roe v. Wade was overturned.
Starting point is 01:12:55 I didn't even see women rioting in the streets. Not like it's in their nature anyway, but they couldn't get much done if they tried. There's not going to... I just don't... I saw them dressing up like The Handmaid's Tale. tale yeah that's what they do when they go and play pretend i saw them doing that right seeking attention but nothing there was no destruction shamus made this point several times he said that in u.s history there has never been a conflict seeking to guarantee human rights that has has that has gone towards stripping them away in the long run
Starting point is 01:13:24 right basically as as we've moved forward as a nation and progressed, we've continually expanded human rights, not rescinded them. The argument that it's women's rights to choose is, it's the same as arguing, in my opinion, that a slave owner has a right over someone else's body. Granted, there's a difference between an unborn fetus and a, you know, human beings who are being owned. I think slavery is very, very obviously wrong. And I think we came out on the right side of that one historically. But the argument that someone has a right to choose to terminate someone else's life is, it's a very, very bad thing. Now, for me, I fall in the more libertarian camp of I also don't like the idea of the government coming in and determining someone has to give their body to somebody else,
Starting point is 01:14:05 which makes it an impossible ethical standard that I'm not going to pretend to have the answers to. Because I just, I don't know. It's a body inside a body. It's two separate bodies. You have two bodies. And so you're trying to argue about civil rights. But the way Seamus put it, many other pro-lifers, is that the temporary displacement of the woman's life for the permanent life of the baby is the proper outcome.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Meaning, killing the life of the baby to save the woman nine to ten months of suffering is inequivocal. You know what I'm trying to say? It doesn't balance out. Right. They're arguing that it's unfortunate the woman has to suffer, but the baby gets to live a full life of 70 to 80 years whereas you can kill a baby with no life just so the woman doesn't have to go through 10 months or or so nine months of i say 10 because there's before and there's afterwards there's postpartum and there's things like that so there's going to be this period for men but but anyway look
Starting point is 01:15:02 in my political opinion is not uh and it's funny that i can say this because like imagine being in the time of slavery and being like trying to be a centrist where you're like well you know i personally think it's wrong but i'm not gonna abolish it i understand the position i'm in especially historically but just reading about the civil war reading about how no one cared about it like this is the crazy thing the abolitionists were extremists they were a small tiny faction no one cared about and it was like five percent of the country that actually had slaves and so it was rich white southern uh southern slave owners that made up it was about 25 percent of the southern population which ultimately because it's a small
Starting point is 01:15:40 population and uh most people didn't care i was I was reading I was I was watching a video talking about the politics, the papers, the propaganda. And it was like people in the north didn't care for war. Here's here's a really great example. The Emancipation Proclamation didn't actually abolish slavery in like three states, only the states that were in rebellion against the union. And so Lincoln was actually promising like Marylandaryland and i think missouri the right to keep slaves because they weren't rebelling against the union it's it's didn't lincoln also want the repatriation of former slaves what do you mean like he wanted african slaves to be repatriated to their home liberia yeah i'm not just liberia but like no there was a thing that they would send groups of them back over to Africa and repatriate them.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Anyway, are you suggesting, though, that a civil war kicked off by a federal decision on abortion would maybe be more destructive to the country because abortion affects more people than slavery ever did? No, no, no, no. What I'm saying is people are saying right now abortion can't, like there's not gonna be a civil war for abortion. Like nobody cares that much. It's like, okay, go read the history of the civil war and see how many people cared about that issue.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Nobody cared about that yet. There were a lot of people. Hans Christian Haag, we talked a bit about him because he was a foreigner who fought and died for the union. Abolitionists were real. John Brown was real. Depending on your perspective on history, he was either a hero or he was a terrorist. I mean, these are crazy stories.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Think about, I want you to imagine this. A guy goes to, gets a bunch of his kids and his friends and family and gets guns and goes to an abortion clinic, walks right into the doctor and blows his head off. That's John Brown. Was John Brown a hero because he was doing that to slave owners? He walked, there's a story about how he went to, he went, he was, I think it was in Kansas. He didn't care to ask any questions. He didn't care to take prisoners. He just went up and started killing these people. And he's considered a hero because slavery was so wrong. What I'm saying is at the time, people didn't, in the North didn't care because the North, like, it was a political issue for sure. But people in the North were like, hey, look, first of all, segregation lasted until the 50s. So you need to understand that even in the North, people were very racist and were for segregation and didn't care for doing more.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Lynchings persisted until the 1900s. This idea that the North were like great heroes of equality is just not true my point is not to not look i'd watch a documentary civil war so here i'm talking about it no i'm thinking that what the republic that we we're looking at states separate staunchly on abortion colorado no limits tex bans. We're seeing these states light up in this way. And I'm just like, man, if the Republicans move in that direction, it's not, I think people underestimate how politics works. I would say it could be just like slavery was some like tip of the iceberg or tilt the scales type of issue. It's not going to be like a driving factor that
Starting point is 01:18:43 sets it off. There may be some power dynamics. There may be some other stuff going off. And that's exactly right. So there's a lot of stuff that I'm I've been so I've been reading about the Civil War quite a bit. Then going to Gettysburg got me to read a lot a bit more and watch this documentary. And the Confederacy was definitely trying to enshrine slavery. The vice president overtly expressed white supremacy as one of the cores of the Confederacy, like literally expressing his genetic superiority and a bunch of other stupid nonsense. But for the average person in the South, they weren't fighting a war because
Starting point is 01:19:15 they had slaves because they didn't. So what a lot of people were telling me is the South, knowing that, they needed to boost morale by creating other issues, by highlighting other eccentricities of the federal government, presenting conspiracies and things like that. Robert E. Lee didn't even own slaves and didn't believe in slavery, right? So here's what ends up happening with the battle at Fort Sumter. It's the fighting that breaks out was not because the North was like, we must march on the south to end slavery it was two years after the start abraham lincoln signs the emancipation proclamation which explicitly said only in rebelling states so even then they weren't trying to end it so it was the start it was the core like principal reason for the conflict and the paranoia between the south and the north
Starting point is 01:20:00 but the fighting itself was just like tribal hatred and that was production too right like there the whole reason that the north won was because they held all the means of production which is what always scares me manufacturing yeah manufacturing right and it's held by the right right now yeah i thought china is holding the well that's what i was just gonna say that is always my thing and i was like do we not learn anything from the Civil War? Who wins the war? The people with the means of production. And that goes for antibiotics.
Starting point is 01:20:29 That goes for steel production, neon, all the things. Let me tell you some more stuff that will freak you out a little bit. A lot of people say, you know, Bill Maher. He says, if there's another Civil War, or there can't be another Civil War because the Mason-Dixon line would go through Nenna's kitchen. It's like, okay, Bill, we get it. You're snide but anyway uh i think it was um robert e lee or it may have i think it was a lead and he uh these were these were union generals and the question of secession was coming up and they said who do you side with what am i supposed to do and i think it was lee who said he could not
Starting point is 01:21:02 envision raising his arms against his home state so So ultimately he said, I have to go to the South. Against Virginia, right? Yeah. Against Virginia. Correct. So I want you to imagine California and what would happen with the National Guard if California says outright, any child can get a sex change, any woman can get an abortion no matter what. And then the National Guard says, are we going to uphold this? It's clearly in violation of federal law. I mean, President DeSantis has already banned this federally, and now we're forced to uphold it. It's a question for each and every one of these National Guardsmen. You live in California. Your friends are in California. Your mom's in California. Your dad's there. You're a shopkeeper. You know the local town councilman. Do you raise
Starting point is 01:21:41 your arms against them? It's not against them. We don't have the same loyalty to where we come from anymore at all. That's all been, that's all gone. It's not about the state. It's about your friends and family in that state and whether you're going to be the one rounding them up and locking them in camps as dissenters or going to be the one defending them.
Starting point is 01:22:00 Yeah, I just. If the Union soldiers were to march on Virginia and go and occupy those towns, would you be the one pointing the gun at your friends and family or would you be the one defending them? I mean, how much people have like family that like they're that much? I just don't think that your families are spread out as much as you think they are. Like, it's not it's not going to be like, you know, I've got my mom in Pennsylvania and my brother and I mean, my mom in New Jersey, my brother in Pennsylvania. And like, I have to pick. It's going to be like, hey, you guys come with me.
Starting point is 01:22:31 We're going to be on the right side of history. We all have our political values that are exactly the same. And we're on a team. But no one's no one's thinking that. But no one's thinking that it's it's you being ordered to march into your old neighborhood and tell everyone to stay in their houses while you're holding a rifle. And them being like, get out of here. We've said no to you. I could do that if it was ideologically aligned.
Starting point is 01:22:52 So we had John Podesta doing that war game in 2020 where I think it was Podesta. You had the Democrats and neocon Republicans basically playing Dungeons and Dragons for politics. And the Democrats advocated in their scenario for the West Coast to secede from the union if Donald Trump were to win a second term as president. The federal government then says we are giving explicit orders to the National Guard to go out and stop these people from doing it. And then you have to ask yourself, are you going to protect your family or protect the federal government? That's what Robert E. Lee was basically saying. It's not a question of being like the word Virginia means so much to me. And the word United States does too. But I was born in Virginia, so I choose that word. No, it's like, yo, I'm not going to point a gun at my neighbor
Starting point is 01:23:37 Bill. Yeah. Get out of here. You're not marching on my hometown. It's not going to happen. You know what's interesting about this whole thing? It's funny because I feel like if California wanted to secede, we'd allow that. But I always feel like the left would never let us go. They would never let the right secede. We would say, all right, you want to go? You want to have California? Go have California. And they would be like, no, you can't go if Texas wanted to secede.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Well, I'll give you the shout out luke on this one because you keep talking about peaceful divorce right and that's exactly what the south was saying an amicable split and the north said we won't let you leave right like we won't let you leave and i think that that's akin to the left now and the right like if the right all said okay we're tired of your weird policies you have you know this half in canada and we'll have the bottom half they would be like no you're never leaving and then once they see that it's great down here they would come over and invade us anyway what was that youtube channel i mentioned earlier what if what if all history what if all history he basically said in his video that the right
Starting point is 01:24:37 is almost guaranteed it's basically guaranteed to win in all aspects military training resources food production hands down no questions asked. Capability in general. The entirety of rural America is connected and the leftist America is islands. It's what they call the democrat archipelago. Something like that. I mean, he made the point that it's the coastal elite
Starting point is 01:24:57 basically, similar point to that. But it's true. All the production, be it manufacturing, be it food growth, etc. occurs in the center of the country and then everything else goes out to the coasts. We still have manufacturing. We have a little bit marginally. I don't know. Yeah, it's not that significant. A lot of the stuff is just imported because of globalization policies instituted by David Rockefeller. But at the end of the day, you know, it's a hard thing to really talk about because how do you fix this larger divide that's getting farther and farther from each other?
Starting point is 01:25:27 How do you fix people that are becoming more violent against each other for their political ideas? How can you even have a peaceful divorce? How can you have a divorce maybe that even has a mutual peace pact or a mutual defense pact? Is that possible?
Starting point is 01:25:39 But it's a hard question to kind of lay out there. It's never been solved. It's never been solved. I don't think it can be solved. So, you know, I'm in Gettysburg. And you know what all these people up there are telling me? They give tours and stuff. They said, well, you know, the Civil War was unfinished business from the Revolution, from the War for Independence, from the colonial days.
Starting point is 01:25:58 And I'm like, uh-huh. And so what you're basically saying is that all of these major issues that have been affecting the country, they all connect all the way back. It just goes on forever. So you get Civil War, you get Reconstruction. I was reading that there's not even an official date to the end of the Civil War because some Confederate soldiers kept fighting even though there was a Panamax surrender. Then you had Reconstruction. Then you had this council hearing. It was like 1876, I think, where there was contested election. So they just had a committee meeting of like okay i guess we'll just decide you'll be president so we don't go to civil war again but then you end up with the clan nathan bedford forest who was i think he was was he a general in the civil war or he was a
Starting point is 01:26:36 right as an officer a general i believe and then forest gump was named after him technically that one yeah yeah then you get the clan then you civil rights, and you get all that conflict. And now we're still dealing with remnants of all of that, and fighting is coming out. Granted, a lot of it's washed away. Almost everyone universally in this country opposes racism to a great degree. There's small factions that are still in favor of it. The left seems to be the most in favor, so it's getting weird and murky.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Yeah, I think the best thing we could strive to do is reduce harm any way we can. This is why I kind of advocate for a peaceful divorce or even just trying to work it out where we don't have a strong federal government that keeps imposing its ideas onto everyone. And I think the more we allow choice, the more we try to get rid of a centralized, big federal government that could be Republican or Democrat pushing the ideas onto different states, I think the better off we would be and the less harm and the less conflict we would have. I totally disagree. I feel like that's not like a reality situation. I think that there's cycles to
Starting point is 01:27:33 every government. There's rise and falls and there's war. And that is a part of being human is these cycles of government and control and power and that we are at a point where it's going to come to a head. There's going to be a fight for whatever is right. And then the cycle will start over again. And I'm like, let's just get there. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I think we should try to avoid getting there. I think we shouldn't be racing there
Starting point is 01:27:58 because when Americans start fighting Americans, that's really going to be extremely dangerous and harmful to everyone. And I think we should be doing our best to reduce harm. In that YouTube video I keep referencing from, what is it, What If All History, right? Yeah, What If All History. He mentions Strassau generational theory,
Starting point is 01:28:13 and he actually expands upon it, that it's not just in the United States, but in the English-speaking world every 80 years of the conflict, and he mentions a couple more before the American War for Independence, and then he also mentions, I think, three other books that have, this is really fascinating. He goes through a bunch of different theories
Starting point is 01:28:29 that all talk about the past and the ebb and flow of civilization and chaos. Yeah, great videos. And they all say in the 2020s, we're going to have chaos. And then you have MIT, I believe, who came out and said in the 2020s, they said, what is it?
Starting point is 01:28:43 It was like in the 80s and then 40 years, we're going to see major chaos and strife in the United States. So they're all predicting it. Maybe they're all wrong. And I won't need to eat the beans in my basement. I don't know if they're all wrong, but I will say that if you look at cycles and trends of civilization and when they fall, it's always with the loosening of of sexuality especially when it comes to women
Starting point is 01:29:08 well civilizations usually have that um correlation as well as the degradation of society entertainment a lot of it is just weird awkward doesn't make a lot of sense and i think we are in that phase yeah that fourth turning as some people reference it there's that i was just reading that book what was it um the the age of enlightenment right uh entitlement the age of entitlement oh i keep doing this with the mic okay so the age of entitlement um and he says in there like there is always a battle about of like your personal need for flexibility and sexuality versus your the structural need for survival and constraints on your sexuality um and that's like what the story of Romeo and Juliet was and that
Starting point is 01:29:51 there's always that conflict and when the one of the individual wins out and that's when society really deteriorates because you're missing that that construction of the family and and restraint that you need in order to live in civil society. So it's really women burning their bras in their 60s. It ruined everything for us. It's not just in the 60s, though, because feminism started way before that. It was a big movement.
Starting point is 01:30:16 Witchcraft in the 19th century, really. You mean like women learning math? I mean, ultimately, we can blame the printing press for everything. For everything that's gone wrong. How do you create a society where people are free as individuals to live and choose as they see fit? I don't think you should. Have less and less government.
Starting point is 01:30:39 Have less people dependent on government. People dependent on government stay dependent on government because it hooks them in. The government there is not to solve, is not there to solve any problems. It's there to get people who will need them forever. But I'm talking about culturally, you think, you're saying,
Starting point is 01:30:53 you think women should be... Yeah, I've definitely made a further, like, turn, I guess, I guess within the last, like, years, maybe two years or so, further to the right in that there's another good book that i'll quote um sariba mari's book and he he said this great little like anecdotal thing it's a and i have kids
Starting point is 01:31:11 so i know so you bring two kids to the sandbox are like 18 months old one kid brings a toy they're both sitting in the sandbox the other kid steals the toy from the kid and the kid says hey that's mine you can't have that starts freaking out right so that gives you a thing that that's not like taught in society. There's an inherent sense of justice and right and wrong and morality, but a mom comes in or some, you know, or a dad or somebody comes and says, yo, we don't live like that. We live in civil society and this is how. So while I think that you need to, you know, embrace the individual and give them some flexibility and some freedom to grow there. I do think that there needs to be some agreed upon, very, you know, moral structure there. And I think that we've gone past that. And everybody has all these like dark images about like authoritarianism and things like
Starting point is 01:31:56 that because we've seen it get out of control. But there's also been a lot of benevolent dictators. There's also been kings that have wound up, you know, accruing sainthood because they were so good to their people. And so I just think that there, we are so lacking in morality that there needs to be some, not everybody is capable of, I mean, look around, like look at the supermarket and people aren't capable of making their own decisions on what food to buy. I think that there just needs to be some structure in the society and it needs to be something we all agree on and we are far past agreeing that's not a right or left thing i mean bloomberg said we should tax the poor because
Starting point is 01:32:34 they're too stupid to make their own decisions he said well when we tax them we can spend the money better because they tend to make mistakes something like that do they mean the poor do they mean the middle class he meant he he meant i'm not talking about. Something like that. Do they mean the poor or do they mean the middle class? He meant anyone who was rich, I guess. I'm not talking about personal decisions like that much. I mean more some more enforced morality. We used to shame people. We used to scoff against divorce.
Starting point is 01:33:00 And people have totally exploited all that. It used to be for some basic reason, some serious reasons that people get divorced or leave their family or anything like that, or men would go outside the home or whatever. No-fault divorce was the end of marriage entirely. Completely 100% marriage no longer exists with no-fault divorce.
Starting point is 01:33:17 Everybody lifts up Reagan, right? But Reagan was the one. He was awful. Gun control. I had Reagan. I mean, you ran Contra? Horrible. Yeah. Horrible guy. I mean, you ran Contra? Horrible. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:25 Horrible guy. I mean, I'm just saying that like, I think that there needs to be some bounded morality and I think that, you know, that sounds scary
Starting point is 01:33:33 to a lot of people but I think that it's the only way out of this. All right, we're going to go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button?
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Starting point is 01:34:00 Penn State canceled Gavin McInnes's event because of a mob of protesters in Black Block yelling communist chants. Ford Fisher has a live stream going. It's winding down at this point. He was there with Alex Stein tonight. Oh, he was? I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:13 Yeah, because somebody asked if Alex was going to be here. So I asked him. I said, Alex, are you going to be here with me? And he's like, you're going to be on? No, I'm going to be at Penn State. Where's Penn State? Not far away. Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 01:34:23 No, I know. I know. But it's in Philly? No, no. It's like in Altona or where's penn state not far away pennsylvania no i know i know but it's in philly no no it's like right or something or yeah it's like um state college state college it's like the center center of pa or something yeah it's not it's not close but it was funny because i was coming but i think it's relatively close to here uh maybe a couple hours no but yeah so i was like he's there mcginnis is there i can't believe they shut it down what jer jerks. Anyway. All right.
Starting point is 01:34:47 I'll watch that when I get home. Bill Hughes says VP Harris falsely calls her support of the Minnesota Freedom Fund misinformation. That's true. I watched this video clip. Do you see it? They were like, you've been accused of supporting this. She's like, well, that's just misinformation and disinformation because she's a crackpot who doesn't realize that she actually has a tweet up doing this receipts joseph lania says youtube just switched the stream on going live to a fox news channel
Starting point is 01:35:12 well that's not surprising make sure you share this video be the notification you want to see in the world because youtube certainly is pushing us down is that our accident though remember because we were watching the debate no no this is well before the. Was that our accident though? Remember? Because we were watching the debate. No, no, no. This was well before the show. Oh, okay. Yeah. The accident in question was the monitors got turned off. There wasn't anything having to do
Starting point is 01:35:30 with anybody watching. Oh, right, right, right. Yep. Yep. But smash the like button, share the video, be the notification. If you guys share the video,
Starting point is 01:35:37 then we don't got to rely on YouTube to notify people and we can bypass censorship. America76 says, DeSantis is consolidating establishment rhino money, has distanced himself from Trump, and is gaining rhino support.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Trump didn't take a salary, make of it what you will. I don't think you can look at everything DeSantis did right now in Florida and think he's going to be bad. I think you look at everything he's doing, you're like, he's kind of doing a good job. My only fear is would he support war policy? He's got foreign policy experience everything he's doing, you're like, he's kind of doing a good job. My only fear is, would he support war policy?
Starting point is 01:36:07 He's got foreign policy experience, that's true. But is his position on it going to be no new wars, no intervention like Trump's? Probably not. Probably not. That's a deal breaker. So I used to work for this organization, Think Tank, and he was the head of the Israel Victory Project, which he was the head of the caucusrael victory project which like he was the head of the caucus there where it was like the palestinians need to admit defeat before we can
Starting point is 01:36:31 even start talking about like a two-state solution or a one-state solution so i definitely feel like if there was something going on there he would definitely be involved all right raymond g stanley jr says tim i was going to super chat about both World War Three and Civil War, both escalating at the same time. It's going to get crazy. But since you talked about Dylan doing trans face, I get to ask you about the proper use of my Barbie pouch. I just want to point out two things. Mulvaney saying like holding a big handful of tampons and then saying Barbie pouch, I think, is indicative of it being a not not not a serious and like intended to mock like Barbie pouch. And then as for the World War Three Civil War thing, I think it actually is really interesting. And Ian made the good point that the the Great War World War One was for Russia, a revolution and a civil war at the same time. So the question about who would win a civil war in this country is often improperly answered let me ask you guys who do
Starting point is 01:37:26 you think would win if a civil war broke out in the united states what do you think left or the right i think the right one what do you think luke um hard to tell um there's a lot of order followers and and there's a lot of institutions controlled by the left but the right is usually made up of a lot of those order followers, but they do follow those orders. All right, what do you think, Mary? I don't know. Everyone's been weakened, but I think it would be the right.
Starting point is 01:37:52 They just have more gun owners. Serge? I think gun ownership is one thing. I think that, again, like I mentioned, there's a lot of production in different parts of the U.S., but I think probably the right, it just depends on who to ally, because the thing about the left is they have a lot of ports. They have the ability to then have things traded in from Europe and Asia as well, from both sides of the u.s but i think probably the right it just depends on who would ally because the thing about the left is they have a lot of ports they have the ability then have things traded in from europe and asia as well from both sides of the country they'll get china surge nailed it
Starting point is 01:38:11 yeah i think that was that was that was the plan i was trying to make okay so i was thinking if we were like limited to our own i get it but that's the point i make is most people think that way right and what you need to think about is russia on a russian talk show a couple months ago the pundits said america is falling into civil war the only thing we need to think about is Russia, on a Russian talk show a couple months ago, the pundits said, America's falling into civil war. The only thing we need to figure out is which side we're arming. That's what's going to determine.
Starting point is 01:38:31 So one of the big elements of the civil war was that the Confederates were desperately trying to get recognition from Europe. And that what was happening was the Union was going to other countries being like, it's an internal dispute. Don't worry, you negotiate with us. And they were like, okay, I guess.
Starting point is 01:38:44 It would really come down to who is China going to send the antibiotics to? Which side? Who are they going to send the guns to? Yeah. If China's the manufacturing base
Starting point is 01:38:53 and the North had the manufacturing, China is going to be sending machines, tools, replacement parts, and... I feel like the right could make their own.
Starting point is 01:39:02 They're a little more resourceful, but I really think they're not making their own antibiotics. They're not making their own. Or vitamin C. It depends on if we could tool up production to make those things in time. That'd be the biggest thing. I see China supporting both sides. They're like, blow each other up.
Starting point is 01:39:14 Why wouldn't they? What they would do is they would want to sow disruption. I don't think that would mean they would fund both sides. I think it would mean they would fund the weaker. When people say, oh, the right's going gonna win like what if all history is like the right's gonna win because they have the military they have the training they have the passion and then china specifically goes to the port cities and arms them to the teeth to create an
Starting point is 01:39:36 even battlefield so we gut ourselves and and and then they're able to win right dylan's of the world i'll be like i don't want to break a nail. No, I think at that point, Dylan drops the mockery of trans people and says, hey, I'm going to go leave the war because I don't want to get killed. And Blair said, Blair agrees with me, though. Yeah, Blair agrees with you. Or he's going to be a drone pilot. I could definitely see him kind of pushing buttons. Let's kick some ass.
Starting point is 01:40:00 Fire, fire, fire. We got one from Falcon Laser. Tim, did you see the video of an msnbc journalist asking a panel of trump supporters about january 6 clay travis shared it on twitter earlier today we actually have it pulled up we'll talk about this in the members only show because it is it is insane this msnbc journalist doesn't even know what she's talking about they're like she's like but someone died on january 6 and they're like yeah one protester and on January 6th. And they're like, yeah, one protester. And she goes, a cop died. And they're like, no. No.
Starting point is 01:40:26 It was a stroke and it was after the fact. I got a bad article written about me for that one. What, really? Yeah. I was saying in a clubhouse space at one point in time that he died of natural causes and whatever. New York Times said that. This was right around them or before. And so the Daily Dot wrote this horrible article like congressional staffer blames capitol police for officer sitnik's death and they still leave the
Starting point is 01:40:49 article out there and won't retract it even though everything i said was correct but well yeah there you go they're the worst fake news that's another element of civil war you've got ideologues who are lying all day every day and don't care to fix it and then their zealots believe it because it's still there and no matter how much you try to tell them they don't care to fix it. And then their zealots believe it because it's still there. And no matter how much you try to tell them, they don't care. They're in a cult. That's, it's a cult, man. It's sad.
Starting point is 01:41:12 AI says, watch AMC's Rubicon. It's one and only season. Is that about Rome? What's it about? That'd be cool if it was about Rome. Bogus Impression says, for some reason, I'm imagining that when Russia attacks
Starting point is 01:41:26 America's infrastructure and manufacturing capabilities, China is going to be surprised when all the bombs land in their factories because all we know, everything in America is made in China. That's a good point. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:39 Let's see what we have here. E. Rodriguez says, I have to disagree with the aforementioned YouTuber. Communists never cared for the poor. They just hated the rich. Orwell wrote about this in one of his books. I may have mis... I'm not trying to misrepresent the guy's views.
Starting point is 01:41:53 The point he was making is that the communists were all about masculinity and strength as much as the fascists were. They just had a different view on how to build a system. And I think it was mostly about culture. Progressive versus traditional. Pinochet's helicopter tour says, Tim, when it comes to communism and socialism,
Starting point is 01:42:11 I have a suggestion that is quite effective, though I'm not sure how to get that many peanuts. Wait, what were you thinking I was going to say? Do we give out packing, like, we give out, like, little packs of peanuts to people that say, like, vote on them? You, like, you throw, you know, to people and it says, like, vote GOP and that say like vote on them. You like throw, you know, people on to like vote GOP and they eat a couple of them.
Starting point is 01:42:29 Peanuts are good, man. Ooh, Uncle Sam says, speaking of looking like, what's up, of looking like, what's up Sherry Oteri? Are we getting the weekend update? I kid. Beautiful and intelligent. Cheers, y'all. Oh, do you look like Sherry Oteri?
Starting point is 01:42:44 I don't even know who Sherry Oteri is. SNL, I guess. No, I do. like sherry otero i don't know who sherry otero is snl i guess no i do i get the weirdest people i don't know but thank you i guess if he's trying to be nice some not everybody's always that nice okay michael riley says these are the same people saying kyle shot black people i bet antifa found someone with the same name gave it to the media without doing journalism. Exactly. So initially when I saw this report about the dude getting attacked in Florida, I did my digging and the left is saying like, oh, he's a fascist. Here's his name.
Starting point is 01:43:13 And I'm like, that picture you're showing is like a fat guy and this is a thin guy and that guy looks Mexican and this guy kind of looks Indian. Maybe it's the same guy. I don't know. Not that I want to out our side or anything, but we have a couple little grifters like there's one in particular that says like they've gotten hurt or attacked for wearing maga stuff and they haven't like because i was there and saw that they didn't but like hamming it up yeah like i mean it happens on both sides but like that this is clearly a different
Starting point is 01:43:39 story this guy's like seriously isn't that just photos right yeah it's awful max reddick says tim i watched that episode of electric dreams last night you mentioned recently i'm not going to lie i feel like that main character no one listening to me what is happening my friends if there is anything you would spend money on to watch amazon despite the fact that we all despise it watch kill all others on uh from electric dreams the show is called electric dreams it is i believe the last episode called kill all others it will blow your mind seriously it's so good you will feel like the main character so i see you guys writing it down have you seen it
Starting point is 01:44:20 no you guys should watch it man i don't watch i can't tell you the last time I watched a TV or a show or anything. I'm so lame. The gist of it is- Where is it? Amazon Prime. The show is called Electric Dreams. Philip K. Dick Stories. The last episode.
Starting point is 01:44:33 I think it's the last episode. I'll watch it because you told me to. You need to watch it. The gist of it is, it's this factory worker guy, and he's watching a political debate. Well, it's a political interview. And the president or the presidential candidate says, you know, I'm campaigning to reform schools, to get better wages,
Starting point is 01:44:51 obviously kill all others, and we got to get utility prices down. And then he goes, whoa, what? They just, what did they just say? And then everyone's just like, oh, I don't care. It's politics. I'm not, it's not important.
Starting point is 01:45:02 And then slowly but surely, the rhetoric is getting more and more extreme he then sees like a woman running screaming and people are chasing her but i get her and they start beating the crap out of her and he's like what are you doing and they're like she's an other she's another and then he goes i don't care stop the violence and they're like why are you protecting her you're an other too you just got to watch it it's so crazy like replace other with like person who opposes child sex changes and then you're like man you go to your friends and family you tell them like hey did you see
Starting point is 01:45:28 what joe biden's doing with gas and they're like i don't care i don't care and then eventually they're calling you the extremist on tv like joe biden did you got to watch this episode you're gonna be like whoa this is crazy dude crazy all right harron gaming news says to add to luke's point of declining population, did you know there's a place in Italy that rings a church bell when a baby is born? So there's like no one being born, otherwise the bell would be ringing nonstop,
Starting point is 01:45:53 I imagine, right? It's probably a small village. Like they're not, it's probably not being rung a lot. We're getting down in the weeds there. Well, the population is dramatically being reduced. Well, because of low T and bad things in our food and because men coddle women and society is falling apart.
Starting point is 01:46:09 Birth control, forever chemicals, I could keep going on. Fatherless homes. The other thing is, people need to know this, that churches, many of them traditionally ring the bell every half hour. And that to me is, I'm sorry, that's nuts. That's crazy. So we're trying to set up a shop in Martinsburg West Virginia a physical location
Starting point is 01:46:27 and there's a church nearby that rings the bell on the hour it's the chimes of the hour on the half an hour to banish the demons they bless the bells banish the demons from the area do you not want the demons to be banished from the area sure sure
Starting point is 01:46:42 I'm not going to ask them to stop doing it they were there well before I was. I'm just pointing out that, like, that's kind of a lot. And so, like, you know, we have to do recordings periodically. It's impossible for us to do any kind of studio work in that city at all because they ring the bell so often. So you have to be relatively far away from it or build a soundproof studio.
Starting point is 01:47:01 And it's like, okay, well, you know, it is what it is. I think they should, if they traditionally do it, I'm not going to try and interfere with what they're doing. I just think it's like, okay, well, you know, it is what it is. I think they should, if they traditionally do it, I'm not going to try and interfere with what they're doing. I just think it's like, wow. I just moved to a neighborhood in Philly, and they ring the bells on the hour. And half hour. Most half hours.
Starting point is 01:47:16 And then they do extra stuff when it's service time and stuff. But I love it. It just makes me feel like I'm somewhere happy and safe. I mean, it made a whole lot of sense back when there were no clocks or anything. You're like, I wonder what time it is. love it like it just makes me feel like i'm somewhere i'm somewhere happy and safe i mean it made a whole lot of sense back when there were no clocks or anything you're like i don't know what time it is then you hear and you're like oh it's 3 30 yeah i like it yeah i'm a fan but i get your problem all right scott nolton says tim do you see the story luke reported on today about the lady in the cop car getting hit by a train no but i know that story was from a couple weeks ago
Starting point is 01:47:42 right uh the dash cam footage came out recently and i did a video on it i on my youtube channel one we are change and it's just absolutely freaking crazy the police officers in colorado tied up handcuffed a young woman put her in the back of a squad car that they parked on train tracks and they see a train coming and they go run and they run away and they excuse me excuse me sorry they served and protected very well the situation by running out of the way and let this poor woman be hit by a train crazy uh absolutely insane case the video is absolutely mind-boggling and the officer who did did everything paid leave. That's absolute criminality to the highest degree. This is why I can't be back to blue.
Starting point is 01:48:29 Yeah, this is why you can't trust anyone in authority, and you should always question authority and try to hold them accountable no matter what the situation is. And if this is what police officers are doing, imagine what your politicians are doing. Right. I mean, these are just some bad cops, man.
Starting point is 01:48:43 Just a few bad apples. Just one bad apple that gets to the other bad apples, and then you just got yourself. Yeah, but look, as it gets worse and worse, any cop that had any semblance of honor or talent is quitting. And that's been happening over the past several years. So, of course, now it's going to get crazier. Or even just self-preservation because you don't want to get charged with something.
Starting point is 01:49:03 Totally. There's a video of that cop. I think it's in Portland or Seattle. And he pulls up and he goes, you guys won. I quit. I'm done. I'm quitting. And so then what do you see?
Starting point is 01:49:10 You see videos like this. Now, don't get me wrong. We've seen videos like that well before there was any demoralization of cops. I'm just saying expect to see it get way worse. People are asking in the comment section. She did live miraculously. She survived. But she had some very serious injuries that she had to do well
Starting point is 01:49:26 what happened was you know the train hit the car and she was standing there and the train smacked into her and then the train flipped over and then crashed and she stood there like like in the movie the report i read was that she was screaming for her life as police officers are running away from her that's crazy yeah why did they park the car on the train tracks it sounds like they wanted to kill her real smart yeah like i'm sorry dude did you see the car on the train tracks? It sounds like they wanted to kill her. Real smart. I'm sorry, dude. Did you see the video? How can you claim it's an accident?
Starting point is 01:49:51 I played the video in the beginning of my YouTube channel today. On the video report I did today. It's crazy. I don't see how you could argue it was an accident. Maybe they panicked? No, no, no. They parked their car on the tracks. Then they grab her. Then they bring her into the car on the tracks.
Starting point is 01:50:04 Then they leave the car on the tracks and walk away to her car and then the train comes and goes oh no and they run away it's like dude
Starting point is 01:50:09 they were trying to kill her the video is just crazy because you just see the train coming you hear it from far away who's recording this
Starting point is 01:50:16 dash cam and body cam and body cams from the police officers the footage was released and audit the audit is another YouTube channel
Starting point is 01:50:23 released the video as well all right pinochet's helicopter tours says tim look into tiv or tendency for interpersonal victimhood a new personality construct doctors have studied explains the motivations of squeaky wheels well i'll look into that just got to build a fort in the middle of nowhere and be self-sufficient alberto cheap rays says tim give mary a political show would love to see her angry rants i don't get angry about politics i don't let those things anger me that's me i just don't get angry on this show i let stupid celebrities get me angry yeah you gotta check out that show john John Marafa says, forget red wave, forget red tsunami, red Megadon. Megadon, baby, bring it on.
Starting point is 01:51:10 What is that? Red Mageddon. Oh, Red Mageddon. Oh, man, it went right over my head. Red Mageddon. No, a red great flood. It's like the tsunami, the wave is going to be so big, Democrats got to build an arc. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:51:24 Great flood. They're letting us win, I think. It's what? They is going to be so big, Democrats got to build an arc. You know what I'm saying? Great flood. They're letting us win, I think. It's what? They're going to let us. I'm telling you, it's going to be my little prediction. I mean, it really does feel like Democrats are sabotaging on purpose. They were, the Veritas video that came out where it's Katie Hobbs' twin sister saying the Democrats are funding the more extreme Republicans.
Starting point is 01:51:43 Yeah. I guess. I don't know what they're planning, but whatever. Cosmic Surgeon says, is it already criminal to write and publish the leak? No, it's not. Journalists,
Starting point is 01:51:57 they're allowed to report on this stuff. The Pentagon Papers, the Afghan war logs, et cetera, et cetera. Project Veritas is a really good example. Look how much Project Veritas receives in leaks. WikiLeaks was very much the same. They were journalists.
Starting point is 01:52:12 People would send them secure files. They would blow the whistle or just leak stuff. And then WikiLeaks would release and report on it. And WikiLeaks even editorialized. I'll criticize them for some of the editorialization, but they're journalists, same as anybody else. And that's it. I got a quick question for you real quick.
Starting point is 01:52:26 Do you think that there was a ton of leaks coming out of the Trump administration? Do you think that there's as many leaks coming out of the Biden administration, but the media doesn't take them and pick them up? Or do you think that there are more and there are more disciplines? I think there's probably more leaks and the media won't touch them. Yeah. Because the Biden, the Trump administration had, there is a certain degree of, well, you know what? Maybe it is comparable because there's animosity across the board. But I think the reason I would say that there may be more with Biden is that his insanity and incompetence. That's what I'm saying. He's got to be like bumping into walls, forgetting things, like yelling, acting out.
Starting point is 01:53:04 And there's nothing. And it's not even, it's like with Trump, peopleing into walls forgetting things like yelling acting out and there's nothing and it's not even it's like right with trump people are angry and don't like him so they're looking for things with biden you can't avoid these things certainly someone said you know i was at the white house today i was just bringing papers from one room i saw biden trip and fall you know and and those are the kind of things where they're where you'd think they did they leak out they don't right the media won't report on it. They're probably going, well, nobody really cares about that stuff. He's running around naked again trying to catch some kind of dog pooping everywhere.
Starting point is 01:53:32 Doc Holliday says, I love what Trump said. Boo hoo hoo. Well, sure. Whatever. He then said, just unsubscribe from Luke Uncensored. That's fine. That's okay. You can go right ahead and do whatever you want.
Starting point is 01:53:44 You're a free person. I'm going to vote for Trump. I'll vote for trump but what would you subscribe to what would you be cheering on if if if biden was doing the same exact thing to project veritas ask yourself that question and then kind of think about that here's the thing that's that's the point right there is is with these leaks coming out that veritas gets especially ashley biden's diary and the fbi raid on projectitas, what Trump said was trash. Yeah, well, here's my thing about like the followers on following you and stuff. Right after, you know, the election results came out and it was, you know, for Biden and not Trump and everybody's like, oh, there was like this big uproar.
Starting point is 01:54:19 I said on Instagram or somewhere, I was like, hey, guys, like, you know what? Let's just support our president. Let's all show up on Biden's inauguration with our MAGA hats and whatever. Only because I've been around so long that I know that these things are not easily overturned. People were like, we would never want you in our corner. You're not a fighter.
Starting point is 01:54:37 I was like, what? You're not a real Trump fan. I was like, are you kidding me? If you are not, if you don't have this blind allegiance all of a sudden, they're like swearing you off. God forbid you don't have this blind allegiance, all of a sudden they're swearing you off. God forbid you have your own brain and you have something different to say. It's not that I don't love Trump.
Starting point is 01:54:50 I just know how corrupt the system is and that it was never going to work out in his favor. So now you're just going to say I'm not a fighter, I'm a quitter? No, we're saying that. Worshiping any politician is just cringe. And if you think one person's going to solve all your problems, you're not paying attention.
Starting point is 01:55:04 The cringest thing that really annoyed the crap out of me was the after the election people were like march 3rd's the real day trump's coming back and then april 17th's the real day and i'm like stop it's not it's not real and then and then it took like a year before people finally stopped saying that the arrests were coming and i'm just like and so that's the thing about the fraud narrative is that people don't understand that it's shifted dramatically over the past two years. Initially, the whole narrative was very much like servers and Chinese ballots and like, I'm not saying that all of that stuff isn't true. I'm not saying that, like, that there wasn't a significant amount of fraud to overturn the election. There's just no way to
Starting point is 01:55:42 prove it. And there was no way they were going to let you prove it. And if you even look at the way absentee mail-in ballots are done, it comes in an envelope, right? Then it comes with another one that you sign, and then the paper one. Once they separate those, you can never match them back up. We don't know who did what. It's never going to be provable. That's not even the issue at all. The problem with all of that stuff is that certainly the provability, the year of abandoning it, all the reports and research and everything that we've even talked about on this show going back to when it all led nowhere. And now what you have is you have like Dinesh D'Souza and you have like the ballot harvesting stuff, which is always what we talked about. The shadow campaign to save the election from Time magazine, the procedure and policies and those changes that actually had a huge impact, and the month-long voting that's happening now,
Starting point is 01:56:27 those are things that need to be sued over and you need to go to court to challenge the procedure and the policy. But anyway, my point is not to rehash all that stuff. It's that some people are just so fervent that they believed all of that and it's just like, come on, man, look. Trump's a guy.
Starting point is 01:56:43 I think Trump's pretty good. I think No New wars was absolutely incredible. The best response we got in the super chats when Dave Smith was here was these problems were created over 100 years. We won't end them overnight. And that's absolutely like a voting for a president that didn't start any wars and actually was working towards peace is like as good as we're getting right now. If we're advanced, I mean, imagine you're at one end of a football field and you got to get to the other side and so you're waiting for someone who can throw you 100 yards versus just taking one step at a time so what's your choice i'm going to stand right here until someone can toss me that full hundred you're a human you wait too much it's never going
Starting point is 01:57:19 to happen you can't move the monolith like that i mean he's going in the opposite direction according to my opinion and you got to got to stop worshipping politicians and start believing in yourself. No new wars is the opposite direction. He almost got us in a war with Syria, with Iran. He bombed a country. He went further than Barack Obama did with his foreign policy, especially when he came to Ukraine. I like that better, though. He was unpredictable.
Starting point is 01:57:42 You know that you have people like this. And Biden, Putin would have never encroached on Ukraine at all. better though right he was unpredictable you know that you have people like this and biden who would have never like encroached on ukraine at all trump was getting our troops out of syria and afghanistan i'm not saying he's perfect i'm not saying he was not getting he was not getting any troops out of nowhere he like he he talked a good game he promised but he got john bolton he did it their troops are still there no bolton yes all but 200 but he's so 200 on the record but how many special ops how many other drones are flying overhead how many He did it. The troops are still there. John Bolton was still calling the shots there. But he sacked Bolton, right? 200 on the record.
Starting point is 01:58:09 But how many special ops, how many other drones were flying overhead? How many other military operations were still going on there? You can't accept. Like I said, taking one step in the right direction. You can't tell me that no new wars is going the wrong direction. Okay, Luke, you want more war? At least one new war? It's limited proxy war. He didn't officially declare a war, but so didn't Barack Obama.
Starting point is 01:58:26 Barack Obama didn't officially declare a war. You're playing semantics here. But he did finance a whole bunch of rebels. He did finance a whole bunch of overthrows, right? So the argument is still there. You're arguing for absolute revolution while I'm arguing for reform. My point is that
Starting point is 01:58:41 Trump did. I'm arguing for holding people accountable for actually doing something, bombing other countries. It's utopian, dude. I'm sorry. No, it for actually doing something, bombing other countries. It's utopian, dude. I'm sorry. Yes, it is. You don't bomb a country because your daughter cries. Okay?
Starting point is 01:58:50 And that's... There's a straw man argument that I didn't make. The point I made is the Abraham Accords and the peace deals... He bought off countries. The Abraham Accords
Starting point is 01:59:00 are him buying off countries. So what? It didn't amount to any kind of legitimate change in my opinion. Peace through purchase? Fine. If we're getting our, if he's trying to get our troops out of Syria. It's just like, hey, we'll give you a little bit of money.
Starting point is 01:59:11 Let Israel fly in here. He's like, okay, cool. Are we worse? How do you? How do you? Better foreign policy wise? Are we worse off now? Worse.
Starting point is 01:59:18 Absolutely worse. Absolutely worse. I like light years, right? Was he the best one that we've had in years as far as foreign policy is concerned? As far as foreign policy? With John Bolton at the helm? I don't know. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:59:28 I don't know. I think that's up for debate. Who is better than foreign policy? Bill Clinton? No. Barack Obama? George W. Bush? No.
Starting point is 01:59:37 Reagan? All of them suck. Were they better than Trump? All of them took money that we didn't have, spent it, and printed it, and gave it to the military industrial complex. No, no, no, no. Giving money to Saudi Arabia to commit the human atrocities in Yemen?
Starting point is 01:59:51 Answer the question. What's the question? Who was better than Trump on foreign policy? I can't think of. I think all of the foreign policy has been atrocious. Okay. I can't look at dog crap. I can't look at dog crap and be like that's a little bit
Starting point is 02:00:05 less dog crap you can say which one stinks the least I'm going to pause you right there and say I think you're being disingenuous I can look at a pile
Starting point is 02:00:10 of dog diarrhea and be like that's substantially worse on my carpet than that thick corn turd okay but let's be honest here we're arguing about dog shit
Starting point is 02:00:19 right listen so it's all dog crap if I had a dog we agree on that point that every year would crap on my carpet. And it was a variety of diarrhea.
Starting point is 02:00:28 And then one day, all of a sudden, it's thick corn crap. I go, well, it's still bad, but we're moving in the right direction. And it's easier to clean up. That's my point. Is it? You can pick it right up and be a light man. Yeah, you can. Well, it depends on what the dog also had.
Starting point is 02:00:41 But we're playing. But we're playing. I appreciate the debate and I appreciate the conversation. There's a lot of things that we should be, of course, discussing when it comes to this. Foreign policy is extremely important.
Starting point is 02:00:50 I think he could have done a way better job. Nobody's really disagreeing with that, but he's certainly the best that we've had. His drone policies, his military industrial complex spending, him giving weapons to Saudi Arabia,
Starting point is 02:01:01 committing the atrocities in Yemen, the conflict with Iran, the conflict with Syria. You're making excuses for the same policies that Obama was doing that he continued. Like I said, you're in the end zone of a football field and Luke's saying
Starting point is 02:01:16 because we're not getting... What's different from what Trump and Obama did? What's the difference? What's the difference? I'm asking you a question. Getting our troops out of Syria, setting the deadline for getting out of Afghanistan, crossing into the DMZ in North Korea, sending weapons to Ukraine, you can argue is bad, but it was getting us out of the conflict and saying, it's you now, you do it.
Starting point is 02:01:38 Telling NATO to pay their fair share. Donald Trump was very much like, I don't understand why we're at war in these places. And when he tried to get all of our troops out of Syria, every last one of them, the executive branch lied to the American people and they lied to Trump to keep secret troops on the ground. It's insane. I'll be intellectually honest.
Starting point is 02:01:55 I concede on North Korea. I concede on NATO spending, even though he pushed for it. But at the same time, the effects were there as he was sending lethal weapons and escalating the situation. But I concede on North Korea 100%.
Starting point is 02:02:07 My point is not that Donald Trump came in with a magic wand and saved the world. My point is it's the best foreign policy I've seen in my life from a president. That doesn't mean it's good. It means it was moving in the right direction. It was pulling things back. Even if it was one inch on a football field, it is better. And when Tulsi, so tulsi gabbard endorses biden i don't buy it tulsi gabbard knows the problems of the regime change war it was her
Starting point is 02:02:30 campaign thing it's one of the things i focus on and donald trump is like i'm gonna i promised this i'm gonna try and make it happen the increase in drone strikes it's bad for a lot of reasons but it was happening because we were pulling our our operations out of the middle east and we didn't want the taliban and other groups like isis to storm he made arguments about killing civilians he's a and he did and he made an argument jailing journalists it's bad yes but he also he also made sure that there was no transparency with his drone program with obama we know how many people he bombed we know he bombed weddings we know he bombed hospitals under trump we don't know because trump classified a lot of that information and gave the power to drum to drone bomb people and to assassinate them through to the pentagon
Starting point is 02:03:09 which is crazy you're you're not arguing in the same area that i'm arguing i'm arguing that we know trump did bad things but it was to a much lesser degree than we've seen from any other president in the past in my lifetime debatable if we're on a scale here um well who's on par like there's nobody better you can't name look i'm not saying can't no but we're not we're not really talking about a lot of great things here let's let's say my favorite part then this was like the most interesting i like when it gets heated it should get heated and i'm all for this conversation let's grab one more and then uh and then i'm gonna warm up because it's freezing in here fingertips are cold
Starting point is 02:03:46 and then we'll go to the members only james eaton says my family didn't join the fight until the union graped the women in new market va it was never a fight for slaves it was a moral war against northern aggression next is moral war to save the kids there's a lot to break down there let's definitely talk about this members only because i'm gonna go ham because i was like that's a lot i've been reading a lot of civil war stuff for the past couple years obviously there's a lot to break down there. Let's definitely talk about this in members only because I'm going to go ham because I was like – That's a lot to go back. I've been reading a lot of Civil War stuff over the past couple of years. Obviously, there's a drinking game whenever Tim Pool says Civil War. And then going to Gettysburg and actually going through everything.
Starting point is 02:04:14 And not only that, but over the past weekend, two weeks ago, I went down the C&O Canal reading all about everything that was going on. Crazy awesome stuff to read. Horrifying history. Smash the like button. Subscribe to this channel. Would you kindly smash that like button? Become a member at TimCast.com. We're going to talk a lot about all of this stuff because we had this clip from January 6th.
Starting point is 02:04:36 I want to talk about Civil War. I want to go off on all of this stuff about things I'm learning. So that will be at TimCast.com at about 11. You can follow the show at TimCast.irl. You can follow me at TimCast. Lisa, do you want to shout anything out? at about 11. You can follow the show at TimCast.irl. You can follow me at TimCast. Lisa, do you want to shout anything out? No, nothing. You can just find me at Lisa Elizabeth on Twitter. I guess that's where I'm most active right now. Lisa, that was great. Thank you so much for coming on. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 02:04:54 If you want to know what I really think, you could go on LukeUncensored.com and if you think my comments about Donald Trump are spicy, wait until what I said about Ben Shapiro today. LukeUncensored.com I love the comments i'm always in the comment section and if you think the negative comments hurt me you have no idea they feel me i love them i love the debate i love the discussion let's let's challenge ourselves as
Starting point is 02:05:15 much as we can right now and and hey if you think i'm wrong show me the evidence let's let's actually debate this let's actually have an honest conversation about this i love it and i love being able to express these ideas. Thank you so much for having me on. Ghost girl. Well, if you're tired of talking about dog crap and civil war, then maybe subscribe to Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube. We go live Monday through Friday, 3 p.m.
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Starting point is 02:06:05 Let's talk about that. The video where her eyes are wigging out. Yeah, whether it was like glue or not. Yeah. All right, deal. I hope you guys liked that one. That was pretty wild. The chat was spicy.
Starting point is 02:06:15 Anyways. I'll read it tomorrow. Do you leave your chats up so I can read them later? I don't know. I'll take it down. They're all on there. Okay, good. I'm excited.
Starting point is 02:06:23 I'm in there. I like the bad ones too. I find like the one good one and I hang on to that one the whole time so I don't care about the bad ones hate comments are funny yeah I agree
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