Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #644 Fetterman Oz Debate LIVE NOW, Disaster Expected As GOP Takes Lead w/Andrew Kloster
Episode Date: October 26, 2022Tim, Ian, Luke, & Serge join Andrew Kloster to watch and discuss the John Fetterman VS Dr. Oz debate & talk about an Arizona sheriff who is deploying security to ballot drop boxes. Learn more about yo...ur ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Tonight's is the big debate. Fetterman versus Dr. Oz. And I know it's a Pennsylvania thing,
but we have to watch it. We do. You know, we were talking about it before the show and we're like,
a lot of people are going to want to watch this debate. We got to comment on it.
The other day was the DeSantis debate, but that was an hour before our show went live. The thing
is, Fetterman cannot understand words that are said to him. So he has to use a special device.
And it's sad, you know,
but this, a lot of people expect
is going to be a disaster of a debate
because he has to use this device
to see the questions that the moderators will ask
and then see what Dr. Oz says in real time.
How much you want to bet Dr. Oz
tries to say like,
how much wood could a woodchuck chuck
if a woodchuck could chuck wood
so that the machine jumbles it and Fetterman's like,
I mean, not literally the woodchuck thing,
but if Dr. Oz starts speaking too quickly
or uses obscure small words followed by larger words
and it mashes them together,
Fetterman's going to, I don't know what you said, I'm sorry.
And he's going to stumble.
So we're going to see what he has to offer.
The big thing is that they're within two points of each other.
And considering the margin of error, it effectively means Oz is going to win what he has to offer. The big thing is that they're within two points of each other.
And considering the margin of error, it effectively means Oz is going to win in Pennsylvania if nothing changes.
So Fetterman is desperate.
So we're going to watch some of that debate.
We'll see how it goes.
If it's stupid and pointless, maybe we'll just talk about something else.
We've got a bunch of other stories, too.
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The debate's getting started soon, so let's just go quick.
Joining us tonight to talk about all of this and more is Andrew Kloster.
You want to grab your microphone and headphones?
Yeah, sorry.
What happened?
So who are you? What do you do?
You've got to flip it upside down. You've got to flip it.
Flip? No, no, no, no, no. You have it on. I have it on? No, no, no? You've got to flip it upside down. You've got to flip it.
No, no, no, no, no.
You have it on.
I have it on.
Nope, nope, nope. You've got to flip the mic.
No, you've got to flip it upside down.
There you go.
Sorry about that.
I'm a neophyte.
Now, who are you?
Hi.
You've got to get it pretty close.
Yeah, sure.
I'm Andrew Kloster.
I'm a lawyer.
I have a C3 called Personnel Policy Operations.
I'm DC-based.
I was in the Trump White House and a number of agencies.
So I've been around on the conservative side of public policy for over a decade now and going strong.
So glad to be here.
Thanks for having me.
Right on.
You are unprepared.
I'm just joking.
I'm messing with you.
My name is Luke Rudowsky here of WeAreChange.org.
Unpopular opinion.
No politician is coming to save you.
And this is why I wore my If You Trust the Government, You Don't Know History shirt.
If you like it, you could get it on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.
Because you do, I'm here.
Thanks for having me.
I've returned from across the great divide to send my love to all of you.
Hello.
Welcome back.
I'm Ian Crossland.
Good to be here.
Andrew, good to meet you, man.
Good to meet you, too.
Serge, what's happening, brother?
Hey, Ian. How are you guys doing? I'm on Serge.com again. You know where to find me. Let's pull theland. Good to be here. Andrew, good to meet you, man. Good to meet you, too. Serge, what's happening, brother? Hey, Ian.
How are you guys doing?
Serge.com again.
You know where to find me.
Let's pull the debate.
The debate's starting.
Here we go.
I'm running to serve Pennsylvania.
Let me fix the audio.
Here's a man that spent more than $20 million.
What's going on?
His own money to try to buy that stuff.
Everybody's laughing.
Aliens.
I'm also having to talk about something called...
What's with the audio?
That if he's on TV...
That's not us.
That's definitely them.
That's definitely them.
It's not us at all.
...on his TV show.
Because we have perfect feet,
and I'm listening to the keyboard right now.
Oh, no, dude.
Our record here.
That's his voice.
And he's also lying, probably, during...
What is going on with this?
...talk about the elephant in the room.
I had a stroke. He's never let me forget that.
And I might
miss some words during this debate.
Two words together.
But it knocked me down, but I'm going to keep coming
back up.
This campaign is all about, to me, is about
fighting for every person in Pennsylvania
that ever got knocked down.
That needs to get back up
and fighting for all
forgotten communities
all across Pennsylvania
that also got knocked down
that needs to keep
get back up.
Yo, their audio
their audio is all screwed up.
A businessman
and television personality.
But this is your first run
for elected office.
What qualifies you
to be a U.S. Senator
from Pennsylvania?
They sound like aliens.
I'm running for the U.S. Senator from Pennsylvania? They sound like aliens.
I'm running for the U.S. Senate because Washington keeps getting it wrong.
Is this to even the playing field?
I want to bring civility, balance, all the things that you want to see.
What's up with the audio? It's so busted. And by doing that, we can bring us together in a way that has not been done before.
Yo, are they throwing it for Fetterman?
I don't know. It could be many things.
There's a lot of things
in this chain going up here,
but it's definitely those.
I would not be surprised
if they're tanking
the audio on purpose
because of this.
That would be wild.
Someone, yeah.
Dude, come on.
You mean to tell me
that WPXI,
this is like a local news agency,
just all of a sudden,
they do audio every day
for hours
and they can't get
the audio right now.
Let's try and find a better one.
Look at that.
There's nothing.
I felt bad about plugging my headphones.
Yeah.
No, you're all right.
They're fine.
We're just messing it up.
No, this is crazy.
It's not too bad.
What a waste of our time.
Oh, no.
They want us to watch ads now?
All right.
Goya.
Please fix the audio.
I'm a big fan of Beans.
Raising our taxes. Oh, that's fan of beans. Raising our taxes.
That's from a source.
What if they are robots
and not humans?
Or they live aliens.
Can someone try and find
a different stream, I guess?
I'm looking right now.
I'm looking it up on YouTube.
What about the new site's website?
Our next star, Emerson College, the Hill
Poll, the economy and inflation
are the biggest concerns for voters.
What is up with this?
39% of them listed that as the
top issue. Beginning with you, Mr. Ross.
WPXI?
Is that a one or a half?
I wonder if it's
If you go on their website, there you go.
No? People are saying the audio is good for them in the chat from that feed.
But for us, it sounds like so alias.
It's weird.
Audio is perfect.
No, people were saying in the chat on their feed,
please fix the audio, and they're laughing, saying it's all jacked up.
No, it's on their main website on the top left corner.
Some people are saying the audio is fine.
I'll tell you.
They have 4% waste and fraud.
I've traveled over the Commonwealth and spoken to countless people.
How do I make it bigger than that?
Who told me with fear in her heart that she wanted to provide food for her son's highly nutritious chicken.
She couldn't afford it anymore.
We'll take it.
That's a big problem.
If we've got 4% waste and fraud, we ought to be able to take care of that.
John Fetterman's, however, response continually is to raise taxes.
I have a feeling it's going to be really boring.
He raised taxes as mayor.
He tried to raise taxes as lieutenant governor, 46%.
That's a big tax rate.
He supported Joe Biden's recent tax rate increase, and he's done that without paying his own taxes 67 times.
I'll say that again.
He hasn't paid his own taxes 67 times, but he's raising mine and yours.
Those are radical positions. They're extreme. They're out of touch with the values of
Pennsylvanians. And I can make the difficult decisions as you do in the operating room as
a surgeon. I'll make them cutting our budget as well. Debates where they insult each other.
In pain from the high inflation rate. Mr. Fetterman, I will allow a 15 second rebuttal.
He has specifically said you have not paid your taxes. That's a get that. Mr. Fetterman, I will allow a 15-second rebuttal. He has specifically said
you have not paid your taxes.
That's a good thing.
I like Fetterman
because of that.
Fetterman, yes,
there we go, man.
You got my vote now.
Absolutely.
Oz Rule,
of course he's lying.
It was helping two students
17 years ago
to help them,
you know,
buy their own homes.
They didn't pay the bills
and it got her paid
and it has never been an issue in any of the campaign before.
This is dark.
It was all about nonprofit.
All right.
Thank you, Mr. Fetterman.
Continuing with you, Mr. Fetterman, your opponent has criticized Democratic spending, as you heard.
Has the Biden administration overspent?
And if so, where do you think spending should be cut?
You have 60 seconds.
No, here's what I think we need to fight about inflation here right now. That's what we need
to fight about inflation, you know, right now, because it's a tax on working families, you know,
and Dr. Oz can't possibly understand what that is like. You know, he has 10 gigantic mansions,
you know, he, you know, has ten gigantic mansions you know he
you know we must push back against corporate greed you know we must make
sure they're also pushing back against price gouging as well too you know we
also be able to make more in Pennsylvania make more in America when he had a
choice to make his merchandise the Oz label on. He made it all in China.
You know, who can you believe that can fight against inflation and pushing back against corporate greed?
Or somebody that is choosing working in China versus over American workers?
All right.
I will allow a 15 second rebuttal to his comments that you have been making things in China.
Mr. Oz.
I've been trying to talk about policy issues with the people of Pennsylvania. As a doctor,
I listen to their ideas and I want to talk about them. When John Fetterman brings up houses,
the irony is he didn't pay for his own house. He got it for a dollar from his sister. And he
hasn't been able to earn a living on his own. He's lived off his parents. So it's not a topic
that we should be debating on the stage. We should be talking about crime and inflation,
the issues that are hurting Pennsylvanians that they're talking about at their kitchen table.
Fetterman probably did that not to pay taxes.
That's right.
Why is Dr. Oz being like, pay more taxes?
From a dollar.
Mr. Fetterman, we have to continue on.
We'll continue on with a question, a follow-up question to you, Mr. Oz.
This one is just for you.
You tweeted in August that you will never stop fighting to lower gas prices for Pennsylvanians.
Does that include supporting a suspension of the federal gas tax?
You have 30 seconds.
I'm supportive of reducing taxes, but we want to be thoughtful about the long-term game plan to get gas taxes down
and, frankly, all energy prices down.
I have gone around the Commonwealth. I've witnessed people say I'm not going on vacation this year because I can't afford
to pay to take my trailer to the campground. They can't even get there. What we have to do
is ensure that we don't have increased inflation and the best way to do that is reduce gas prices.
John Fetterman has gone after the energy industry, called it a stain on Pennsylvania
and argued we have to ban fracking.
That is disconnected from Pennsylvania.
All right. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Oz.
We will get to the issue of fracking later on in this discussion.
But meantime, turning back to you, Mr. Fetterman, for a follow-up.
In an op-ed for the Wilkes-Barre Times-Leader, you wrote,
quote, it is time we crack down on the big price gouging corporations that are making record
profits while jacking up prices for all of us. How do you plan to do this, sir? You mentioned
price going after price gouging corporations. How do you plan to do this? You have 30 seconds.
Exactly. We have to keep pushing back on that. And he would never make that choice to fight for families here in Pennsylvania.
You know, he has never met an oil company that he doesn't swipe right about.
What?
He has never been able to stand up for working families all across Pennsylvania.
You know, we must push back.
Inflation has hurt Americans and Pennsylvania's families, and it has given the oil companies record profits.
All right. Thank you, Mr. Fetterman. Turning to the next issue.
I'm kind of thinking we just call it. I'm open to that. We call it. It's going to be a lot more
of this. Watching an hour of that. No, we can't do it. We can't do it. I'm sorry, everybody.
Currently sits at $7.25 an hour.
No, we're just going to have to stop that. John Fetterman is in recovery from a stroke.
That should be the main topic of the debate.
It's a doctor and a guy that's recovering from a stroke on stage.
How can they not be talking about that?
That's so important.
It's embarrassing.
That last sentence, I'm actually starting to feel sad yeah watching this like i feel really
bad i'm like come on man i don't want to make a spectacle out of the guy but he's doing it to
himself by running for for office he's basically like what are we supposed to do we have to point
out the inadequacies yo we we had planned on on watching that debate i'm sorry if you guys wanted
to i figured that most people would probably want to see it, considering it's a prominent Senate race.
It's very close.
We have here, if we can pull this up, the 538 polling, that Fetterman's up 2.3 points.
But considering the huge error in polling, that it's probably going to swing towards us.
So we figured this would be important.
I didn't think it was going to be that bad.
Yeah, that was painful to watch. I really did not think it was going to be that bad.
I was uncomfortable. I was like, I didn didn't feel easy because how do you comment on that
you know i'm not making fun of that guy you can't make fun of someone like that in that situation
but you do have to call out you know i i think there's a bigger story to this we talked about
this a couple days ago specifically about the big powers and the big interest pushing individuals
because there was a lot of powerful individuals that invested into him and i could see him being pushed and pushed by those special interests
to be on stage when clearly he shouldn't be you know i thought biden also was pushed although i
don't have evidence do you guys have any evidence of obama said to biden you don't have to do this
and his wife apparently he walked off and got lost today at the white house
and there's a mean post posted uh about this specifically being like
you know he has no people that love him because if he did they would make sure
he wouldn't be working the most stressful job at at his old age
uh when clearly he's having a lot of problems this is this is what i think
you know when we talk about the fall of empire the end of the
country or the cultural collapse or whatever it is you want to call it, it's not some tyrannical psychopath the way the left screams about fascism. It is Fetterman. It is Biden. you know we're in the green room we're getting ready before the show playing pool and stuff and i'm like you know uh kellen who does production stuff for us was like oh hey the debate's tonight
and i'm like oh we definitely got to watch that it's going to be a big one right we would have
watched the desantis one it probably would have been bigger and then i'm and then i'm you know
luke was like i don't know and i said look fetterman's going to be using a special device
it's going to get interesting that was brutal yeah that was that was that was way way worse
it was on you couldn't even listen to. You couldn't even listen to it.
You can't even listen to it.
There's no point.
I don't know, man.
Maybe we need to make people listen to it,
but I assume most people who watch this already know,
but I'm glad in a sense they are doing the debate
because as bad as it is for Fetterman,
there are a lot of people who need to watch that.
They need to watch that and be like,
okay, this is not a meme.
It's not a joke.
The dude could not talk or understand.
I don't even know what the last thing he responded to
about, I don't even know what he was saying.
That he didn't know a air he could oil,
he would swipe right on.
And I'm like-
Like Tinder, I guess he's saying like,
if it was a Tinder and I was swiping right on the oil companies,
but then he said America when he meant Pennsylvania and it was.
So they prepared him.
He had some canned lines, but I mean, that's brutal.
And there are thousands of people in Pennsylvania.
What are they thinking?
They have nothing else to watch right now.
You know, I'm sure they've got a lot of other stuff.
And this is the beginning.
They're going to watch it.
I mean, debates are tough.
They're really difficult for, you know,
your mind to process a lot of information very quickly.
There's a lot of questions.
There's a lot of things you need to really hone in on and to be at your peak mental ability in order to proceed.
This could be interfering in his rehabilitation.
This could be interfering in healing.
Some people want us to keep it running.
I guess we can.
Press one if you want us to keep us running. Press two if you don't want us to keep it running. I guess we can. Press 1 if you want us to keep us running.
Press 2 if you don't want us to keep us running.
People are saying watch it. I'm sorry, dude.
I'm getting
really sad.
Fetterman is a
personable guy.
He comes off like
a regular guy.
I don't have any animosity with the guy. I think he's got
bad policies but
watching this is like i've been in the room you know what difficult conversations happening it
kind of reminds me of like watching a dude who was like i want a great baseball player who got
in a car accident and then him hobbling on the field and everyone clapping being like go for it
go for it and then he falls over and falls on the ground and everyone's just why i'm like bro come on there's more ones than twos but there's also a lot of twos federally mandated
i just think we have to watch it you have to follow was one i i think people want us to play
it we're gonna play it would force it to be subsidized we're gonna play taxpayers across
the country no matter what their personal beliefs are that's radical that's extreme that is out of
touch we're gonna play it man the average voter in Pennsylvania believes is appropriate. Now, ironically, John Fetterman
has been running ads on this topic, dishonest ads. I need to correct the record. They were
so bad, they got pulled off television stations. I've got, even on this station, he was running
dishonest ads that I had pulled off. I haven't had a single ad pulled down. My ads tell the
truth. John Fetterman's are a fiction of his imagination. All right. I'm going to let Mr. Fetterman respond specifically about the ads
being pulled off the air, and then we will return to you, Mr. Oz. Mr. Fetterman. Yeah. I want to
look into the face of every woman in Pennsylvania. You know, if you believe that the choice of your
reproductive freedom belongs with Dr. Oz, then you have a choice. But if you believe that the choice of your reproductive freedom belongs with Dr. Oz, then you have a choice.
But if you believe that the choice for abortion belongs between you and your doctor, that's what I fight for.
Roe v. Wade, for me, should be the law.
He celebrated when Roe v. Wade went down, and my campaign would fight for Roe v. Wade,
and if given the opportunity, to codify it into law.
All right. Thank you, Mr. Fetterman. Going back to you, I want to circle back to something that
you said, Mr. Oz. You mentioned the decision to regulate abortion should be something that
is left up to the states. Now, Republican Senator Lindsey Graham has introduced a federal bill to
ban abortion after 15 weeks. I know that you've been asked about this question before. If the vote were
held today, you were elected senator, you're on the Senate floor, the clerk calls you,
there's a roll call vote. Are you a yay or a nay? How would you vote on the Lindsey Graham bill?
You have 30 seconds. Lisa, I don't even need 30 seconds. I'll give you a bigger answer.
I am not going to support federal rules that block the ability of states to do what they wish to do.
The abortion decision should be left up to states. And specifically when John Fetterman-
You roll with Doug Mastriano.
John, you'll have your turn, John.
One moment, Mr. Fetterman. Continue, Mr. Oz.
I've been very clear on my desire as a physician not to interfere with how states decide. So when
John purposely, knowingly misrepresents that to women,
he scares them. He's purposely trying to alarm them. And the fear mongering isn't working.
Running tens of millions of dollars of ads claiming that I'm against all abortions when
he knows that's not right, claiming that I'm going to be strict with Pennsylvania when he
knows that's not honest. I can't be any clearer that I've been on the stage today. John Fetterman,
if you just hear that one story today, I'd be really happy. But I know you're not going to because you're going to go right back to telling the fables that you believe.
Mr. Oz, I want a 15-second clarification. You are saying that you would leave it up to the
states that the federal government does not have a role here. So are you saying you would not vote
for the Lindsey Graham bill? Any bill that violates what I said, which is the federal government
interfering with the state rule on abortion, I would vote against. What I feel strongly about is
that women in Pennsylvania understand what I'm saying and not believe that
someone who's taken an extreme position like John Fetterman represents them,
because most women do not believe that we should, at a federal level, codify 38
weeks of permission to have an abortion and have taxpayers pay for it. So a yes or
no on the Lindsey Graham bill?
I think I've answered it very clearly three times.
Okay. All right. Thank you, Mr.
I'm turning to Mr.
You have frequently stated your belief that abortion should be safe and legal.
Do you support any limits on when a woman can have an abortion?
Please explain in 60 seconds.
Two different monitors.
What I support, I support on Roe v. Wade.
That was the law of the land for 50
years. He celebrated when it fell down. And I would fight to reestablish on Roe v. Wade. That's
what I run on. That's what I believe. And I've always believed that the choice believes women
and their doctors believe. And he believes that the choice to be with him or Republican
legislators all across this nation. I do respect the bill.
I'm sorry, I must correct that.
Once again, he's misrepresented what I've said, but he also said something very dishonest.
On this debate stage, he said very specifically in his primary debate, when he was still debating,
that he would support 38 weeks of mandated rules by the federal government that would prevent any state from blocking it.
That's not Roe v. Wade.
That's not true. I support Roe v. Wade. That's the simple.
John, you said specifically you would support a federal rule on 38 weeks.
Mr. Oz, thank you.
I think it's important that John at least acknowledge that he's not honest here,
because you said the opposite on TV.
We must continue on. Mr. Fetterman, turning to you, we have a follow-up question.
Would you support allocating federal
funds to transport women who live in states where abortion is banned to states where they can get
one? And why? 30 seconds. I would. I would. Because I believe abortion rights is a universal
right for all women in America. I believe that abortion is health care. And I believe that that is a choice
that belongs with each woman and their doctor. All right. Thank you, Mr. Fetterman. Turning to
the next issue, Dennis. Thank you, Lisa. Let's turn to what has become one of the key themes
of this race, fitness to serve. For these individual questions, there will be no rebuttals
allowed. Mr. Fetterman,
we begin with you. You suffered, as you mentioned a moment ago, a stroke four days before the May
primary. Last week, you released this note from your doctor saying you can work full duty in
public office, but you have not released your detailed medical records surrounding your stroke.
Mr. Fetterman, will you pledge tonight to release those records in the interest of transparency?
You have 60 seconds.
To me, for transparency, it's about showing up.
I'm here today to have a debate.
I have speeches in front of 3,000 people in Montgomery County, all across Pennsylvania,
big, big crowds. You know, I believe
if my doctor believes that I'm fit to serve and that's what I believe is appropriate. And now
with two weeks before the election, you know, I have run a campaign and I've been very transparent
about being very open about the fact we're in use captioning. And I believe that, again, my doctors,
the real doctors that I believe in,
they all believe that I'm ready to be served.
I didn't hear you say you would release your full medical records.
Why not? You have 30 seconds.
No. Again, my doctor all believes that I'm fit to be serving,
and that's what I believe is where I'm standing.
Okay. Mr. Fetterman, thank you.
Mr. Oz, you have built a lucrative career around medicine,
but you've been criticized even by some fellow physicians for promoting, quote, Okay, Mr. Fetterman, thank you. Mr. Oz, you have built a lucrative career around medicine,
but you've been criticized even by some fellow physicians for promoting, quote,
unproven, ill-advised, and at times potentially dangerous treatments.
What is your response to that?
You have 60 seconds.
One of the great blessings of traveling around Pennsylvania is you run into people who have watched the show. They thank me very much for giving them life-saving advice on chronic issues like high blood pressure
or dealing with their anxiety.
The show did very well because it provided high-quality information that empowered people,
which was exactly what I want to do when I'm a senator.
Give people the power.
Let them make decisions for their well-being.
Now, John Fetterman's approach to health is a very dangerous one.
He believes we should socialize medicine.
He embraced this with Bernie Sanders, who he endorsed.
The two candidates called themselves the two most progressive people in America.
When you have socialized medicine, Dennis, you shut down the ability of people to get
access to health care.
Doctors stop practicing.
There are no medications available.
The lines get long.
It's a disaster, and it puts people at risk.
So I don't believe we should allow socialized wonder if they're asking him about the transition of kids
that he was promoting 10 years ago.
And radical positions like the ones taken by John Fetterman
make it too extreme to serve.
If we're going to bring balance to Washington,
you've got to bring people who understand the ramifications.
Even Joe Biden, even Joe Biden called John Fetterman's idea,
I'll quote him, preposterous.
Mr. Fetterman, I'm going to let you respond in just a minute,
but I have a follow-up for you first, Mr. Oz.
Did you or your company make a profit from promoting those products?
You have 30 seconds.
I never sold weight loss products as described in those commercials.
It's a television show, like this is a television show, so people can run commercials on the show.
I hope that's not the question.
And that's a perfectly appropriate and very transparent process.
I ruffled a lot of feathers on my show
because I told people the truth.
And I'm proud of that.
I'll do the exact same thing as a U.S. senator.
But there's no way to defend
what John Fetterman has done with socialized medicine.
That is a radical departure
from what we in America have accepted.
I must respond to that.
John, you'll have your turn.
John, let me finish. I must respond to that. John, you'll have your turn. John, let me finish.
I must respond to that.
Let him respond, please.
You'll have your relationship with a doctor and a patient, and that's what I would want
patients to do.
Thank you.
Mr. Fetterman, he accused you of socialized medicine, supporting socialized medicine.
What is your response?
Again, again, it's the Oz rule.
He's on TV and he's lying.
I never supported any of that thing.
You know, he keeps talking about
Bernie Sanders. You know, three years ago he was on his show and he hugged him and he
said, I love this guy. You know what? Why don't you pretend that you live in Vermont
instead of Pennsylvania and run against Bernie Sanders? Because all you can do is talk about
Bernie Sanders. Because my truth is, is that health care is a basic fundamental right.
And I believe in expanding that. And I believe about, is that health care is a basic fundamental right. And I believe in
expanding that. And I believe about supporting fighting for health care, the kind of health
care that saved my life. That was dishonest. He explicitly supported socialized medicine.
We have a lot of topics to get to. I think Lisa, you go ahead. We are going to move on to the next
topic. And this has come up earlier. And that is the issue of fracking. Pennsylvania only trails Texas in terms of natural gas production.
Both of you have taken shifting positions on the issue of fracking.
Mr. Oz, we begin with you.
You wrote a column in 2014 calling for no fracking pending health study results.
But in a video posted on social media in March, you said, quote,
natural gas guarantees high paying skilled jobs right here in Pennsylvania. So back off, Biden.
Give us freedom to frack. Mr. Oz, please explain that changing position. 60 seconds.
I've been very consistent. Fracking has been demonstrated. It's a very old technology to be
safe. It is a lifeline for this commonwealth
to be able to build wealth, similar to what they've been able to achieve in other states.
For that reason, I strongly support fracking, drilling, the piping of that natural gas. In fact,
I built a facility even in Philadelphia so we could export it to our allies and help them,
the ones that are struggling now in Eastern and Western Europe because of the Ukrainian war. John Fetterman calls fracking a stain on Pennsylvania.
He says that he would sign a moratorium to ban its continued use.
He's against pipelines.
He supported the vote against the Keystone pipeline that ended up shutting it down.
He supports Biden's desire to ban fracking on public lands, which are our lands, all of our lands together.
This is an extreme position on energy.
If we unleashed our energy here in Pennsylvania, it would help everybody.
Why John Fetterman is so rigidly stuck on fighting against energy companies is stunning to me because it's the jobs I want.
Tens of thousands of high-paying jobs to help Pennsylvanians.
Thank you, Mr. Oz.
Oz rule.
Mr. Fetterman, 15 seconds.
I absolutely support fracking.
In fact, I live across the street from a steel mill,
and they were going to frack to create their own energy in order to make them more competitive.
And I support that, living closer to anybody else in Pennsylvania, for fracking to myself.
I believe that we need independence with energy,
and I believe I've walked that line my entire career.
I believe Democrats. Mr. Fetterman, I do have a specific question, which you can continue on this
topic. But you have made two conflicting statements regarding fracking. In a 2018 interview,
you said, quote, I don't support fracking at all. I never have. But earlier this month,
you told an interviewer, quote,
I support fracking. I support the energy independence that we should have here in the United States. So, Mr. Fetterman, please explain your changing position.
Sixty seconds. Good question and good job by her.
I've always supported fracking and I always believe that independence with our energy
is critical and we can't be held, you know, ransom to somebody like Russia.
You know, I've always believed that energy independence is critical.
And I've always believed that. And I do support fracking.
I've never taken any money from their industry, but I support how critical it is that we produce our own energy and create energy independence.
I must correct the record.
Just a second, Mr. Oz.
I do want to clarify something.
You're saying tonight that you support fracking, that you've always supported fracking,
but there is that 2018 interview that you said, quote, I don't support fracking at all.
So how do you square the two?
Good job.
It's his truth.
My lived experience. I do support fracking at all. So how do you square the two? Good job. It's his truth. My lived experience. Oh, I do support fracking. And I love fracking. I support fracking. I frack all the time. And I
do support fracking. Whoa. Thank you, Mr. Fetterman. Whoa. There's not just one was before
the primary. There's pictures of him. Weiding with Victoria. We have to move on.
But we have to get the fundamentals of the truth out here.
John Fetterman over and over again took positions against energy.
We have a lot of topics.
You will have a chance to have that in your closing.
One comment then.
The energy industry is living in fear of John Fetterman.
I want to know why.
We want to move on, Dennis, onto the new topic.
Mr. Ross, we want to now turn to public safety.
Mr. Fetterman, Republicans have called you dangerously soft on crime.
The Pennsylvania State Troopers Association has endorsed Democrat Josh Shapiro for governor.
But in this race, it endorsed your Republican opponent, Mr. Oz.
What is your response to those endorsements?
And what is your response to accusations that you are, quote, dangerously soft on crime?
You have 60 seconds.
I personally chased down.
I believe that I ran on my record on crime.
Every criminal.
I ran to be mayor.
I ran after a guy with a shotgun.
In order to fight gun violence.
And that's exactly what I did.
In working with the police and working with our community, I was able to stop gun violence for five and a half years as mayor.
Ever accomplished before or since my time as mayor, because I'm the only person on this stage right now that is successful about pushing back against gun violence and being the community more safe.
You know, all he's done is put a plan up on his website in the last 24 hours. He has no
experience. He has never made any attempt to try to address crime during his entire career,
except showing up for photo ops here in Philadelphia. He voted for convicted
murderers to be released from jail. Are we supposed to translate for Fetterman?
From Braddock, the small town he represented, endorsed me. They supported me because what he's saying is not true. Violence skyrocketed in
Braddock. I mean, the town wasn't in a good shape when John got there. It got worse when he was
there. People kept leaving. So, of course, you're going to have, you know, all kinds of aberrations.
But, John, the city was dangerous under your leadership. And that's why the Epochian endorsed
me. I don't want to talk to you now. Mr. Oz. This past summer, Congress passed the first gun control bill in decades. That would
not have happened without the support of the man you are running to replace Pat Toomey.
How would you have voted on that bill? And would you continue Toomey's legacy as being one of the
lead Republicans in Congress on pushing for gun reforms? You have 60 seconds. I have been supported by Pat Toomey.
I've enjoyed working with him.
I think he's done a wonderful job.
There are parts of that bill that I like a lot.
For example, I like the fact that there are background checks
that are being strengthened now
so we can make sure that people who should not have guns
don't get guns.
I also like the fact that there was a lot of money
invested for mental health,
which is an important part of the equation.
I've been to Philadelphia. I've done prayer vigils with black clergy leaders who are desperately trying to save the people in their community. Half the murders in Philadelphia
committed by people under 18. We have got to get mental health services to these people,
and it's not happening now. But part of the problem is that we have taken away the ability
of police to do their job, and that's on John Fetterman because John Fetterman has taken such a harsh
position against them he's undermined them at every level taken away some of
their funding he's pushed for Krasner who he admires tremendously he's spoken
highly of him just this week he's taken his policies to a new extreme he's
argued that people should be let out of jail without any bail no matter what
they did to get in there guy he argued to release one-third of all prisoners, one-third of all prisoners out of touch.
Quickly, 15 seconds. Would you have voted for that Pat Toomey? I bet he's a Scottish Lord.
I would have tried to improve that bill. There are things that I think most of us appreciate.
I wasn't there at the time, so I can't speak to what was possible. But I do know there are parts
of that bill that do make sense, and the ones I described should be followed. Let's see how it
works out. Okay, thank you. Lisa, on that do make sense, and the ones I described should be followed. Let's see how it works out.
Okay, thank you.
Lisa, on to our next issue, and that is illegal immigration.
It has been a problem in the United States for decades, but it is now spiking.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection just released numbers from fiscal year 2022.
They show more than 2.7 million total enforcement actions in the U.S. That is the most ever. Mr. Oz,
beginning with you. Republican governors in the South have been sending migrants to Democratic-run
cities and states without a plan or without any coordination. It is certainly gaining a lot of
attention, but is it an effective way to deal with the influx of migrants? You have 60 seconds.
Lisa, we have a catastrophe at the border,
and we should not have sanctuary cities as John Fetterman has tried to introduce.
But I've been into the parts of Philadelphia and Allentown and Reading
where we have large Latino populations.
I understand the challenges of the border.
My father was an immigrant. My mother were immigrants.
I understand what legal immigration offers us.
But the completely porous, open nature of our
border, which John Fetterman supports, has
created a humanitarian crisis
with cartels profiting, with human
trafficking operations. They take the money,
they buy narcotics from China,
and bring that into our country, and it's making
every state a border state. Pennsylvania is
already a border state because we're top
three in the country in fentanyl overdoses.
I can't go anywhere where I don't meet multiple people who say their personal already a border state because we're top three in the country in fentanyl overdoses. I just feel like we should secure the border.
Thank you.
We're giving a big event where I don't meet multiple people who say their personal lives
have been destroyed because of fentanyl overdoses.
Yet John Fetterman not only wants an open border, not only supports entry cities, but
he wants to legalize all hard drugs in America, including narcotics.
I think he's warmed up, though.
I think Fetterman's warmed up.
Out of touch with everybody.
That radical position was tried in Oregon,
which he endorsed.
50% homicide increase rate.
Oh, one moment.
I will give a 15-second rebuttal.
That is, again, the odds rule.
That is just not true.
You know, here, his family's company
was levied the largest fine
for ingratian hiring of immigrantratiated of of immigrate uh
and i think you should sit this one out about in terms of what a circus i don't think it was
hiring your border how would it even just say how long it was a stroke for you mr
the southern border border is secure yet we are seeing an unprecedented number of migrants crossing.
Is the border secure?
And if not, what would you do to fix what both parties are calling a crisis?
You have 60 seconds, Mr. Fetterman.
You know, I believe that a secure border can be compatible with compassion.
I believe we need a comprehensive and bipartisan solution for immigration.
That's what I believe.
I don't ever recall in the Statue of Liberty did they say, you know, take our tired huddle masses and put them on a bus and use cheap political stunts about them.
I believe we have to develop a comprehensive and bipartisan solution to address our issue here for immigration here in our nation.
The memes tomorrow are going to be insane.
All right, thank you, gentlemen. On to the next issue.
There's so much content in the room.
Everything he says is going to be a meme.
They're going to make songs about it.
Turning now to foreign policy.
This is sick.
What do you believe is the greatest foreign threat to the United States of America?
You have 60 seconds.
Dr. Oz.
I believe, I believe, you know, is – right now is China. I believe China
is not our friend, and I believe that we can't be able to push back and we need to stand
against China. And I believe that Dr. Oz has chosen to –
MR. Can you say take?
MR. – manufacture all of his merchandise on his name on it in China. Which one of us on this stage is
going to stand up against and stand firm against China? And I believe that's our single biggest
issue right now, to make sure that we address China and make sure that we know that it's not
our friend. Mr. Rice, what do you believe is the greatest foreign threat to the United States of
America? You have 60 seconds. The fact that our country is not projecting strength. Take, for example, what we're doing
with Iran. In order to try to get them to give us a little oil so we can deal with the catastrophe
that Russia has caused, we have gone to them and tried to sign a deal that would allow them once
again to have the nuclear power to blow up Israel, which they promised they would do.
John Fetterman supports that deal. It doesn't make any sense for America
to treat our enemies better than our allies.
We have the message with our strong voice
and the energy we have in our country
that we have control over our future.
And the best way for America to establish its dominance
is to unleash the energy here in Pennsylvania
and across the country.
By not doing that, not only do we cause all kinds of problems
with local jobs and
inflation, but we're destroying our ability
to remain energy dominant, and
we're not able to become allies
like we should be for countries like
European nations, which are going to struggle
with their coldest winter ever.
It's the best way to punch Putin back, and to teach
China a lesson is American energy
to reign supreme. And John Fetterman
doesn't like American energy, and they are
scared of him because they know they can't trust
him. They keep calling him Mr. Oz, but he's
a doctor. He's literally a doctor.
In our recent, next
our poll, a hypothetical rematch
between Joe Biden and Donald Trump in
2024 would be a
statistical tie in Pennsylvania.
46% of people
said they would vote for former President Trump.
45% for President Biden. Mr. Oz, would you support a Trump 2024 run? And why 60 seconds?
I'll support whoever the Republican Party puts up. And I have reached out across the aisle
on my campaign because I want to bring balance to Washington. And I've tried to work with Democrats
and Republicans and people in the middle, people unsure,
and people who forgot,
people who got angry with where their party was headed.
I want to bring us together to make this country
do what it's always been able to do,
unify, not divide,
and address the problems as a surgeon,
because in the OR, that's what I do.
I just fix the big problem in front of me.
John Fetterman, however, cannot go to Washington
and work with the other side
because he doesn't get along with his own side.
He criticized Joe Biden for not spending enough money and not sidling up close enough to Bernie Sanders.
He says he won't work with Joe Manchin.
He said, if you vote, if you like Joe Manchin, don't vote for me.
So if you're picking fights with your own party, you're not going to be able to reach across the aisle to the other side.
His extreme positions have made him untenable for Republican lawmakers.
We need to send someone to Washington who understands the importance of balance,
sensible decision-making, and a common-sense approach to the challenges that we all face.
That's not John Fetterman.
Mr. Oz, Donald Trump has supported you. He has endorsed you. Why won't you fully commit to supporting him in 2024?
Oh, I do. I would support Donald Trump if he decided to run for president.
All right.
But this is bigger than one candidate.
This is a much bigger story about how we are going to build a bigger tent
to let more Americans feel safe.
Are you concerned about the ongoing legal investigations
involving the former president?
30 seconds, sir.
I haven't followed them very carefully.
I've been campaigning pretty aggressively.
They'll work themselves out.
I have tremendous confidence in the American legal system,
and I believe law and order will reign supreme.
But speaking about that topic, there's one person on this stage who's broken the law, we believe.
John Fetterman took a shotgun, chased an unarmed American man,
and put the gun, apparently, according to that man, to his chest.
John, you weren't pulled over by the police.
They let you go.
You were the mayor at the time.
Why haven't you apologized to that unarmed, innocent black man who you put a shotgun to his
chest? Whoa. Allow a 30-second response to that, Mr. Fetterman, specifically what he was saying,
referring to the incident in Braddock. I made the opportunity to defend my community as the
chief law enforcement officer there. everybody in Braddock, an overwhelming
majority community of black community all understood what happened. You know, they they
understood what happened. And everybody agreed that and nobody believes that it was anything
about me making a split second decision to defend our community as well. Why not apologize?
Mr. Oz, please. We are still with Mr.
Fetterman. Turning to you right now. You support a Biden run. Do you support a Biden run in 2024?
Why in 60 seconds? That's honestly, it's up to his choice whether he, you know, and if he does
choose to run, I would absolutely support him. But ultimately, that's ultimately only his choice.
All right. Thank you, Mr. Fetterman. A follow-up question on this. Our next star poll shows
51 percent of Pennsylvania voters disapprove of the president's job performance. You have
publicly supported many of his policy positions. Are there any that you disagree with? 30 seconds.
That's good.
Who can type this fast does not compute no i just believe he needs to do more about supporting uh
and fighting about inflation uh and i i do believe he can do more about that but uh at the end of the
day i think joe biden is a good good family man and i believe he stands for the union way of life
and i believe that employment unemployment is already down to the lowest level
in the last 50 years it's an auto gentleman speak to text let's turn now gentlemen to the issue of
social security it is only fully funded through 20. it seems like he is many americans actually
by the way they will never receive their full benefit or have to accept cuts to their benefits
mr federman how are you going to make sure it is there for them?
You have 60 seconds.
We need to make sure that Dr. Oz and the Republicans believe in cutting Medicare and Social Security.
And I believe that they have to support and stand Social Security.
It seems like he's reading the responses that are being given out to him on the tele D.C., I would support and stand and to support Social Security.
Sounds like a robot.
Super weird.
Okay, thank you, Mr. Oz.
Same question to you.
How are you going to make sure that Social Security is available for future Americans?
You have 60 seconds.
We made a deal with the wonderful seniors of our nation.
They worked their hearts out.
They paid into a program.
No one's going to touch it on my watch except to make sure that it's stronger than it is right now.
Social Security, Medicare, which I know a lot about as a doctor, are the fundamental
element of security for our seniors, and they deserve to feel like they're valued by our nation.
John Fetterman, again, has been running ads and saying that I'm against those with no proof. I
have never said anything different
than what I'm saying to you on this stage. But in an effort to fearmonger with people who are older
and can be taken advantage of, he'll run these ads. John, it's reprehensible, but it's also
reflective of your approach to doing these things. You haven't shown up on the campaign trail. You
haven't answered questions from voters, not once on the campaign trail. You haven't answered
questions from media once on the campaign trail, even just to show off that you could do it. And this is the only
debate I could get you to come to talk to me on. And I had to beg on my knees to get
you to come. And if it wasn't for Dennis probably getting involved, I don't think it would have
happened. Seniors need to know more about your radical left positions. And I need to
be able to tell them about my positions. That's what democracy is built on. We exchange ideas.
The voters decide. You have hidden from them.
Mr. Oz, I'm going to let you have 15 seconds in a moment, Mr. Fetterman.
But can you give us a specific example of what you would do to protect Social Security?
Well, for one, we have to make sure that it adequately increases with the higher inflation rates that we have.
So we've got to make that 4% of wasted money that right now is in the budget redirected appropriately.
And one of the first places that I would use it is Social Security and Medicare.
And here's the reason.
One of the worst things we can do to our people is give them bad quality care.
And so if you have people who are not going to see a doctor, for example, because they can't afford it, they'll get sicker.
Bad medicine means more costs.
No one benefits.
Thank you.
Mr. Fetterman, you said a few things a moment ago.
I want to give you 15 seconds to respond to those.
Now, again, I just can't I can't just say one thing other than that Dr. Oz would not support
and he would support cutting Medicare. He would not support it. John, why do you say that? I've
never said that. It's absolutely a fact. It's a fact. You would have voted against the Inflation Reduction Act, which has dropped our prescription drugs.
And he doesn't believe.
OK, gentlemen, I need to move on.
All right. We are moving on to the topic of education.
The cost of college tuition is now out of reach for many, many families.
Our question is for both of you. We start with Mr. Oz.
What is your plan to bring down the cost of higher education long term? you. We start with Mr. Oz. What is your plan to bring
down the cost of higher education long term? You have one minute, Mr. Oz. I've worked in academic
medical centers my whole life, so I'm in higher education. And I can tell you the reason that
prices have gone up sixfold in the last 40 years is not because the education quality is better.
We've added extra layers of middle-level individuals who don't actually
improve the quality education, in my opinion. There's a lot of expenses now incurred by these
institutions, and it's not right for the American people to be stuck with the bill. I would push
them to offer more electronic classes. Half the kids don't live on campus anyway. John Fetterman's
approach, however, is not to deal with the unnecessarily high cost, but just to pay it.
So if you want to pay students who didn't pay their loans back, basically what John Fetterman
and Joe Biden are arguing for is for plumbers who didn't go to college and couldn't, for a bunch of
reasons, afford it to pay the bills of lawyers who went to graduate school and haven't paid their
debt back. I don't think that's right for the American people. We want a fair system. Drop the cost down by pushing for more value for the money we're spending and then ensure
there's a high quality education that lets people make a living when they graduate.
All right. I will allow a 15 second rebuttal specifically on the issue of student loan
debt which Mr. Oz was referring to. Mr. Fetterman.
Again, Dr. Oz, you know, loves free money when it's a half a million dollar tax break on one of his, you know, homes down in a ranch in Florida.
And whether it was a $50 tax break, you know, about his farm in Montgomery County.
So it's about supporting and helping, you know, young earners, excuse me, young students to give them a break.
I believe that that supporting.
All right. Let me just ask.
Oh, no.
Ease student loan debt.
The debt reminds me of breaking bad.
He said $50 tax break.
Fifty bucks.
Everybody would be happy with that.
Do you support that position?
Again, I do absolutely support that.
Again, a little blow them up, Bell, you mean?
It's about helping young learners be able to get a better start,
getting off in the start of their life.
And I do believe that, and I believe a majority of Americans support that as well, too.
Helping young learners.
All right, Mr. Fetterman, I want to ask you the same question that I asked Mr. Oz,
and what is your plan to bring down the cost of higher education long term?
You have one minute.
I don't think he didn't answer the question whatsoever.
I did answer the question.
Mr. Oz, please give him a moment.
You didn't.
I fundamentally believe that every quality public university education should be very affordable in every state.
And I think that needs to be a significant investment to make sure that anyone be able to afford to go to get a four-degree university degree at Penn State or any state schools to make it much more affordable.
And that means applying a significant investment to make sure and create it affordable that every
family can afford. How exactly, Mr. Fetterman, do you propose doing that to make it more affordable
for families? I just believe. I just making it that much more. I just believe. And I believe providing the resources to reduce the tuition to allow families to be able to afford it.
All right. We have a follow up question. This one now is for both of you. This is from News Nation viewer and Andrews, a registered nurse from Conneautville near Erie and is a vocational educational instructor for a university and a practicing registered nurse. If you were elected, could you please tell me what you
would be doing for vocational education in the state of Pennsylvania as well as our nation?
So, Mr. Oz, if elected, what would you do for vocational education? You have 30 seconds.
I've visited vocational schools. I have an answer, but John, because obviously I wasn't clear enough for you to understand this. There's no question
that cutting out the middle levels of higher education and providing digital programs would
reduce the cost of education. It's a concrete set of ideas that I'd like to move on. With regard to
vocational education, this is really important for us to allow our trade unions to get more closely
linked with the vocational schools.
I was in a vocational school in Westmoreland, and they had about 1,000 kids.
They could take 2,000 kids.
Funding those programs is the smartest way to invest our tax dollars.
We'll turn out twice as many children who have a job as soon as they graduate.
It supports our trade unions who want those kids in their positions anyway.
It makes the whole program—
We're watching the Republicans win the Senate.
Mr. Fetterman, if elected, what would you do for vocational education?
You have 30 seconds.
Again, I think it's just the same way that university for degrees as well, too.
Supporting that and partnering with the unions and making sure that vocation training is affordable and providing the resources to make
sure everyone has the opportunity. Going to college isn't the right choice for every person,
you know, but going to those kind of vocational schools, able to create a career to weigh,
excuse me, to wage a lot of high salary and again to reduce those costs are critical, too.
All right. Thank you, gentlemen.
This race is costing more than a quarter of a billion dollars.
Have called for the Supreme Court to be expanded.
Candidates, we want to know where you stand on this.
Mr. Fetterman, should the Supreme Court be expanded?
And if so, by how many justices?
You have 60 seconds.
I don't believe I've never I don't stand and I don't believe in that.
You know, I fundamentally believe that even though I don't agree with the ideological breakup of the Supreme Court, you know, I believe it's not about changing the rules. It's about acknowledging where we're at, much the way the Republicans want to try to change the Constitution about how our Supreme Court in Pennsylvania is going to be done.
And I don't support that. So I think it's critical that we be consistent. And I do not
believe in supporting the Supreme Court. Mr. Oz, same question to you. Should the
Supreme Court be expanded? If so, by how many justices? You have 60 seconds.
I would never touch the makeup of the Supreme Court, and I would advocate to leave it the exact
same size it is. But John Fetterman's radical positions have spilled over into what he would
do in Washington. One of the first things he has said, and he came back to the campaign trail,
is that he wanted to bust the filibuster, which means removing the brakes on the Senate overreacting.
That's a risk. That's true. That is true.
But if you do that, then you would free up the Democrats in the Senate without getting
the normal amount of votes to actually expand the Supreme Court, add more states,
do things that are detrimental to the well-being of the country. So I think,
and your first day back, arguing that we should get rid of the filibuster is a dangerously radical
move that would hurt Washington. It's not in our nation's best interest.
Yeah, it would lead to a civil war. No joke.
Thank you both very much.
All right. At this time, we are ready for our closing statements.
You each have 90 seconds to vote for you on Election Day.
Mr. Fetterman, you are first, 90 seconds. Once again, I would just like to say that my campaign is all about fighting for anyone in Pennsylvania
that ever got knocked down, that had to get back up again.
I'm also fighting for any forgotten community all across Pennsylvania that ever got knocked down,
that had to get back up.
I've made my entire career
dedicating to those kinds of pursuits I started as a GED instructor back in
Braddock over 20 years ago because I believe it's about serving Pennsylvania
not about using Pennsylvania for their own and interests as well. To me, careers are refilled by your real underlying values.
And my values have always been about fighting for forgotten communities all across Pennsylvania.
All right. Thank you, Mr. Fetterman. Mr. Oz, your final thoughts, 90 seconds.
I have loved traveling the four corners of the beautiful Commonwealth, and I've heard
your problems. I'm a surgeon, doctor. I listen to what you say, and I'm trying to the four corners of the beautiful Commonwealth, and I've heard your problems.
I'm a surgeon.
Doctor, I listen to what you say, and I'm trying to help address them today.
I've talked to seniors worried their Social Security checks wouldn't go far enough with the raging inflation.
I've talked to couples who want to make their first down payment on a new house, and they can't afford it anymore because of interest rates.
I've talked to families.
You want to cut Social Security.
Mr. Fenneman, it's his turn for his closing. I've talked to families worried about fentanyl showing up in their mailbox and literally
taking the lives of their children who they find blue in bed. I've talked to families who won't let
their kids go outside because of the crime wave that's been facilitated by left radical policies
like the ones John Fetterman has been advocating for. But here's the deal, right? None of this has
to happen. This is all very
addressable. I'm a surgeon. I'm not a politician. We take big problems, we focus on them, and we
fix them. We do it by uniting, by coming together, not dividing. And by doing that, we can get ahead.
But I've got one question to challenge you with, just one question, if you take what I'm saying
to heart. Ask yourself this and others in your family, are you unhappy with where America's headed? I am. And if you are as well, then I'm the candidate
for change. I'm a living embodiment of the American dream. I believe we're the land of
opportunity, the land of plenty. I believe we can balance a budget without recklessly spending. I
believe we can have an unleashed energy policy that helps us all. I believe that we can have
safe city streets and a secure border so legal immigrants can come across, but you shut the
fentanyl out. I believe we can give parents choice in where their kids go to school. We can have
affordable health care. But most of all, I believe in you. And if you can do this together, and we
can, I would ask for your vote on Election Day. God bless you. We do have one final question.
That's pretty good. In Pennsylvania, the eyes of the state are on this debate tonight,
but on Sunday they will be on Lincoln Financial Field in Philadelphia
as the state's two NFL teams go head-to-head.
Mr. Fetterman, Steelers or Eagles, and why?
Eagles.
Oh, clearly, always for the Steelers.
Mr. Oz.
I'll be at the game rooting for my Eagles.
Fly, Eagles, fly.
Gentlemen, thank you both so much.
This does conclude our debate.
Brennan's circus.
Brennan's circus.
We got the sports ball in.
That's really going to be important at the voting box this election.
I'm sorry.
That was really hard for me, you guys.
I wanted so hard just to scream every time fetterman spoke
because he wasn't saying things and this is the important point about fetterman and biden is it
my job to translate for you what he's saying what what what baleen he said baleen like yo we make
fun of truna nashaba the pressure badikaf careafkir, Nexon, Arresin, et cetera, et cetera.
Yo, he's got, I think, like 15 new words in that.
At least.
No, it's the representative's job to translate your feelings into policy.
It's not your job to translate the representative.
I like to make up new words, but this is on another level,
even far beyond me.
Well, it's the machine.
It's the party of the machine, and they put people forward
because the candidate doesn't matter.
It's the machine that's behind them.
Yeah, that's absolutely true.
The big money behind it.
Gigender says, am I the only one to find the Dr. Oz and medically disabled Fetterman debate ironic?
You know, I will say this because we have a bunch of stuff we can talk about.
I want to talk about Kanye for sure.
This was Dr. Oz.
I think he did a decent job.
I was surprised. He actually answered some of these questions.
Fetterman didn't seem to understand what was going on.
No joke.
It's not just that he needs the machine.
So you'll notice there were two monitors.
One was transcribing and one was delayed transcribing,
probably because he has to look back and forth if he misses something.
But how many times has Oz got to say, like, I'm not going to cut and then federman goes he's gonna cut social security it's almost like he couldn't
understand what was being said when oz was like i'm going to digitize portions of our education
system and get rid of the administrative staff bloat and then federman was like you didn't even
answer the questions like i did i said i'm gonna and like he repeated the answer that was just as
i don't know if there's enough words to describe or an effective word to describe how painful that was they clearly coached fetterman he had some canned lines that he
put in there he had practiced saying roe v wade like 4 000 times so he had you know they gave him
some coaching and then thought they could let him loose but it just didn't work what's what's up with
him saying words the same way every time roe v wade Wade. Because I support Roe v. Wade.
And I'm for Roe v. Wade.
It was almost like,
you ever listen to those automatic voice things
where it's like, hello, you have reached.
And it's because the word was recorded one time
and then the program spliced them together
so it doesn't.
That's what it sounded like.
That to me was nuts.
What we were watching right there
is the Republicans winning the Senate.
I got to say, I don't, I'm not a huge fan of Dr. Oz.
I mean, I don't hate him.
He got my vote.
If I had to vote in that election, man, Oz all the way, dude.
He's laser focused compared to the other option.
We've been making fun of Dr. Oz.
I think he's a bit goofy.
But here I just watched two guys.
And you know, you guys ever watch that Family Guy episode where they hire an ugly chick to stand next to meg this is a fan so because so by comparison she looks more attractive
that's exactly what that was i thought dr oz was bad i'm sitting here thinking to myself kathy
barnett could be there running circles and then dr oz he didn't he didn't do bad he had some good
answers his closing statement not bad not bad um his talk about college, I think college is dumb,
but talking about, like you said, digitizing elements
and getting the bloat from the administrative staff,
I'm like, I actually like that.
And then Fetterman's just like, you didn't even say anything.
And it's like, whoa, dude.
Look, normally in politics, Donald Trump,
let's say you got Trump and Biden or something,
or no, Biden's not a good example because he's very similar.
But let's say you've got like, you know, guy A, guy B.
One guy might say like, I'm going to lower gas prices by doing a tax holiday.
The other guy says, you're not even proposing a real plan to lower prices.
That's an argument, right?
Because you can argue that a tax holiday is not permanent and then everyone argues.
When Fetterman says you didn't answer it, it just sounds like he's unable to comprehend what's being said next down.
But I want to warn everybody.
We're all saying, like, I just said we're watching the Republicans win the Senate.
Yo, they voted for Biden.
They voted for Biden despite Trinidad and Chihuahua pressure and all that stuff.
Actually, he may have said that after the campaign or whatever.
But the point is, we all knew Biden was hiding in the basement.
We knew he wasn't going to campaign.
And maybe that's why.
Maybe the Democrats knew that if Biden went out and actually tried to debate more than a few times or campaign it would be endless commercials of
gibberish garbled nonsense right and that's why they don't have him do it and he kept calling a
lid and hiding i was wondering if that was like the technique if they make people feel bad for
him literally feel so bad for him like oh well we'll just give it to him i don't know i wasn't
asking if you think that was even like a thing they would try. I have no idea. But like I said,
you know,
I just looked it up half a,
you know,
quarter of a billion dollars rather in this race,
$250 million.
You know,
there's 10,000 people polling this,
you know,
you know,
all sorts of consultants and they've come out with,
they think they can win this.
They obviously think that they can win this.
And I,
after this,
I don't know,
but I'm just,
they think he's the way to go.
I'm imagining some like campaign PR guy who's like sitting in the office smoking a
cigar and he goes fetterman and they're like what are you kidding the dude just had a stroke he's
like trust me and then it's like this radical plan where he's like this city slicker salesman
he's like people are gonna want to vote for the guy who can't talk straight
you're mad we're going to lose this and then they're going to pull out a victory somehow
wouldn't be surprised they did that joke i don't remember what it was but when bush was george w
bush was president i remember seeing some comedy sketch where the joke was he's folksy and an idiot
in public fetterman and then behind the scenes he's like mr burns or some like ridiculous
intelligent well the the gag we've brought up a couple times is that like Joe Biden's on stage.
He got lost recently. He's like, where are we
going? And then as soon as he walks behind the
curtain, he stands up straight and goes, all right,
let's get back to work, ladies and gentlemen.
Did they believe it?
They believed it, sir. Good.
If people actually thought I was of
sound mind, I'd be going down with Hunter Biden
at the same time. What if there was like a pollster
being like, oh, a lot of people are getting strokes nowadays.
That's relatable.
Let's invest in this guy.
And again, a quarter billion dollars.
That's a lot of money that we're talking about here.
And again, if you invest that much, you think you're going to let someone quit halfway?
No, that's money down the drain.
So I think, you know, this poor guy is being pushed out there.
Obviously, when you have a mental injury, when you have a mental uh injury when you when you have a severe brain injury you need to rest you need to
take it easy you shouldn't be on a debate stage what new york times is calling the most watched
debate of this political season wow this is this is not okay and it's not good to watch i felt
uncomfortable watching it and this is truly a disservice not only to the people of pennsylvania
but the people of the united states i want to believe i want to believe that come tomorrow
come the day after tomorrow when the polls roll in the polling is going to flip oz is going to
take the lead and with the with the all already bias in the polling system we're going to be
looking at oz winning again i find oz a little bit goofy but hey better than federman for a lot
of reasons i want
to believe it but come on guys they voted for biden isn't there a strong possibility people
watch that and said don't know don't care well the thing is people really didn't like trump that's
what biden had his ace in the hole and people don't really dislike oz they might you know have
some issues here and there with him but like trump evoked the ire in humans i think not like like and
no one come before that I've ever seen.
I think the reason Trump may have endorsed Oz is because people do like him.
And his attitude was like, look, Oz is a celebrity.
He's a people person.
He's a people pleaser.
And we're politicos.
So we are like Kathy Barnett was the right option.
But Trump, I mean, Trump knows his stuff.
He's probably thinking PR wise.
You've got a famous TV doctor or kathy barnett who we respect
more but she's very much hyper political take policy out of it think of what a normal person
who doesn't know anything about politics thinks after seeing this there's a guy i respect him
he's polished he's clearly articulate he's got a med degree you know i've seen him on tv yeah
that's him okay he's fine then there's another guy he
looks like a bub i feel a little bad for him he shouldn't be up there no of course he shouldn't
be up there do you think they put fetterman on the on stage right because of his neck if they
if they put fetterman stage left the camera angle would have showed shown the massive growth or
whatever he's got on his neck yeah they control and micromanage almost every aspect of this debate
uh the questions that
are specifically asked are a lot of times random sometimes they're leaked to the candidate just
like we saw with donna brazil and hillary clinton but when it comes to the the stage the breaks the
time everything is negotiated between the two candidates so it wouldn't surprise me if federman
said and his campaign said hey we want to be on this side of the stage and you know they they
debate that all the time and and they negotiate for those spots.
Someone super chatted, Sobik mentioned that if Fetterman wins, he's going to step down for health reasons and then give, assuming Shapiro wins the governorship, an appointment.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's what it'll be.
Interesting.
Someone totally uncharismatic, like a very, very dark person.
Wow, man.
Who couldn't win.
I'd love to get up.
Some Goldman Sachs banker. Yeah. Yeah. Some kind of ruthless corporate banker head. Wow, man. Who couldn't win. I'd love to get up. Some Goldman Sachs banker.
Yeah.
Some kind of ruthless
corporate banker head
that, of course,
is just seething
to just suck the blood
out of the poor working class
blue-collar people
of Pennsylvania,
just like most politicians.
But they're literally
going to appoint Mumia.
Mumia?
I don't know who that is.
Never mind.
It's a big Philly thing.
He shot a cop.
Never mind.
Oh.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And there was a big controversy with Snapple and that as well. Yeah, it's a big Philly thing. He shot a cop. Never mind. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And there was a big controversy with Snapple and that as well.
Yeah, it's a big case.
Mumia Abu-Jamal?
Yes.
Political activist.
Yeah, that what they did in New York.
That what they did in New York.
I was just listening.
And I do not want to start making fun of John Fetterman having a post-stroke hard time talking.
But that what they did in New York.
Even Oz started to mesh his words because he's sitting next to Fetterman like in that state of mind it's crazy but that's what they did in new york with kathy hokal they just put her
in position of power yeah and she's horrible could you imagine if someone here was unable to speak or
understand and we thought we would keep doing the show i'm sorry you guys like i i've had days where
my like i was losing my voice so i'm like can't do the show yeah you gotta take the show comes
first and the country comes first.
The job comes first.
But I mean, like, you know what I'm saying?
It's like your health does.
I'm not going to try and do a show talking like this.
You know?
What I mean is if someone can't do the show, you got to put the show first and take them out.
They can't be part of it because they're going to ruin the process.
Yeah, Fetterman should not be here.
I mean, look, imagine he's standing next to, he's in the Senate,
and he's standing next to
McConnell or somebody, and
they quickly come up and say, John, you've got to understand
we're pushing this bill because it matters the most
that we get inflation down right now. So we've got
to cut spending here, we've got to cut spending here. We're going to look at a
2.3% increase. You need to get on board with this.
I'm not going to ask you twice. And John goes,
What?
He's going to be a terror to work with i
would hate you a staffer do you think that when they're on when they're when they're debating and
negotiating in in on senate floor they're going to be having a big machine so that when someone
walks up to him personally and says i need you to back me on this one a democrat even democrats
need to consider this for themselves a democrat's going to walk up and say john vote yes we need to
get this bill done he's going to go i believe you know and then they're like great and then
it's going to come and he's going to go no and they're going to be like what is he it's like
well you supported him dude but no that's why i think he'll step down john press wrong button
yeah so if he were to win, he would immediately step down?
That's something.
I mean, that sounds reasonable.
There's no way this guy can function in this job.
This is insane.
It would drive all of his compatriots insane.
All the Democrats would hate the guy.
They would loathe looking at him when he walked in because of what a mockery he's making of American law and order and the political system.
It's amazing that people even have the patience
to put them on TV like that.
I know it's going to happen tomorrow
because I know it's already happening right now.
Across this great nation,
there are many a memesmith sitting at their computers
clipping away and producing mashups,
songs, auto-tunes.
It's just going to be insane tomorrow.
Because when you have this guy,
remember when he said recently,
he was like, send me to Washington
so I for a poet to push work for work.
And you're like, what did he just say?
Bro, I'm sorry, man.
I'm not trying to be mean,
but the dude didn't say words.
I mean, he said words,
but they don't go together.
Imagine.
We just got an hour of that.
An hour.
Philly Inquirer is going to say he did great, though.
They're going to translate for him.
This is what they do for Joe Biden.
Joe Biden will be like, you know, inflation is going to, because it's too high,
and, you know, we're going to work and make it, you know, down.
And then the news report, the paper will say, like, Joe Biden said that inflation was too high and that we need to get it reduced immediately.
With ellipses?
No, they won't even put a quote.
They'll be like, Joe Biden expressed outrage over high inflation costs and promised to get the price down.
When his quote is bad enough, where he says, like, come on, man, and like the prices, you know, are very high.
Those ellipses.
And it'll be like, Biden said, quote, you know, the prices are too, you know, are very high. Those ellipses, and it'll be like Biden said, quote,
you know, the prices are too high, dot, dot, dot.
We got to get them down.
But if it's too much gibberish,
I'm willing to bet this.
Tomorrow, a bunch of the papers,
all Democrats supporting,
aren't going to quote him directly.
They're going to say in response to a question from Oz,
Fetterman expressed X, Y, and Z.
Paraphrase.
Exactly.
I have a counter viewpoint.
I think he he this is
again just speculation here is going to win is going to become one of the biggest politicians
out there and i think there's going to be a biden federman 2024 ticket that's going to absolutely
take it because what better opportunity for multinational corporations than to of course
embed people in candidates that actually don't know what's going on that could just rubber stamp
all of their policies which happens right, according to my own personal opinion with
the Biden administration. I think it's clear as day. He's not in charge here. The people who put
him in charge, they're the one calling the shots here. They're the ones pushing the great reset.
They're the ones building back better. They're the ones destroying the American economy and,
of course, stopping domestic energy exploration and production, which is deliberately creating an energy crisis right now.
The campaign slogan for Biden-Federman 2024 is going to be like,
Bertafan, Bergiv, come on.
Sham na shef.
You know Shaba.
And people are going to be like, what?
It's funny, but it's true.
I mean, like, a lot of people study how White Houses are structured.
And with Trump, I mean, if he had something that happened to him,
you know, everything would have been chaos
because everything went up to the top.
It was very personal.
With Biden, you know,
you've got all these little czars.
You've got Ron Klein, Gina McCarthy.
Podesta in there as well.
Podesta.
If Biden goes away,
the machine continues to clack
because he doesn't matter.
And I think it's the same with Letterman.
He doesn't matter.
It's the machine.
I want to, I'm sorry.
I just need to stress this before we wrap up this segment.
I want you all to realize where we are as a nation.
We're at a point where one of the oldest and most prominent political parties has decided to run someone with a severe mental disability, restricting their ability to comprehend words that are said before them.
We can make it a little bit more crass. We are at the point where
the Democrats are running and have run and won with brain damaged candidates. I'm not saying
that to dig at Fetterman. I'm not using brain damaged as a kind of insult. It is a fact. Joe
Biden, I believe, had an aneurysm and he got metal plates put in his brain. He struggles to speak.
Fetterman recently, within the past, what was it, five months ago?
It was in May.
Had a stroke.
I feel bad.
I do not wish that on anybody.
But you got to know when to bow out.
But here we are in America.
This is the point where this nation is.
A man with a severe mental disability just stood on debate stage for an hour.
And there are prominent media and activists who are acting like
this is good and okay
and the right person to vote for.
They may have well, in my opinion,
conceded the race immediately to Oz
and I do not understand
what they're hoping to gain out of this.
Oh, geez.
I hope people can see reality.
I really do.
I don't know how distortive.
I know drugs can really mess people up perception-wise,
and you don't see things that are happening sometimes.
Food also, I'm afraid, can do that.
But I hope to God people see that debate and see it for what it was.
There was a really funny moment where he just said,
I just believe.
When she was like, how are you going to get costs down?
He said, I just believe.
And it's like that sums up
the democrat position a lot of things yeah and also randomly yelling and screaming yeah doesn't
really make you look strong no it's brutal stuff man yeah let's talk about the uh the civil war
that's coming how about that guys we got everyone drink take a shot everybody drink all right
arizona sheriff steps up security around ballot drop boxes amid reports of intimidation.
I wanted to ask you guys about this because we have this story.
Some guys wearing bolt-proof vests.
They had guns.
They're in Maricopa County.
And they're sitting next to some ballot drop boxes.
Apparently, there's an organization that's advocating for watching these ballot boxes.
And I said this was going to happen.
I said, you know, after like 2,000 mules
and after a lot of these claims,
people are going to go to the drop boxes
and they are going to watch.
Then you're eventually going to see Antifa show up.
We've already had one woman show up and confront them.
The cops got called.
Now the sheriff is sending, I guess, security, police
to monitor these boxes.
And I don't know.
Does this escalate?
What the bulwark wrote, and, you know, we're all big
fans of the bulwark. They're the conservative neocons who hate Republicans. It's weird.
They wrote that their scenario that they fear for escalation of civil war is that at a polling
location on the midterms, someone is there observing, someone on the right, they're armed.
They see someone who they think is committing fraud or something.
A fight breaks out.
A gunshot rings out.
A poll worker is on the ground bleeding.
Someone films it.
That was their scenario.
My scenario is simpler.
Two guys show up.
They got bulletproof vests and they got guns.
They're watching the ballot drop box.
A leftist walks up to him, starts screaming, saying, get out of here.
You're white supremacists.
A scuffle breaks out.
Nothing serious.
The police are called and the police are forced to start pushing people back.
Nobody can vote.
The polling location is now closed and dispute arises as to whether or not the election can
be legitimate if polling locations are being shut down.
I don't know where we go from here.
People don't have faith in these in these drop boxes. And just
to take it back a little bit, I think it was Philly where they had the new the Black Panther
Party that was intimidating voters back maybe a decade ago or whatever. Nothing happened. So it
goes back. You know, we've had scuffles at polling locations. I think it was John Calhoun's father
who took guns to the legislature to to get his own district or whatever. So fights occur in these places, but people do need to have faith.
We need cameras.
We need enforcement mechanisms to make sure that there aren't, you know,
thousands of ballots being dropped off.
It happened in Muskegon County in Michigan.
I'm hearing stuff in Wisconsin already.
You know, it happens all over the place.
Yeah, I think it's happening right now.
I think the question, too, is which states allow ballot harvesting and which don't, because some do.
Well, I mean, even in Wisconsin, you know, where I served on Election Day and then helped out with that investigation later, you know, there was a Supreme Court decision there where they said, you know, you can't ballot harvest.
But I'm still hearing that people come in with bags, you object, and they don't listen to you.
So it doesn't matter if the law and the books is one thing, if there's no way for you to enforce it. Well, I think the issue right now,
depending on where this goes, is simple. I think people should be watching ballot boxes. I think
there should be cameras. I think there should be security. Hold on, let me slow down. There
shouldn't be ballot drop boxes at all. We should not have election month. We should have election
day. It should be a federal holiday.
People should get time off to be able to go and vote and then enjoy a nice beer and pizza with their friends afterwards or whatever.
But if we're going to have any kind of polling location, then I think we should have security
cameras on everything.
That's it.
The crazy thing to me is how is it vote?
The DOJ is getting involved now calling it voter intimidation.
How is it intimidating someone that you're sitting there watching?
Like, you're allowed to be in public.
You're allowed to be armed.
You're allowed to wear armor.
None of that is a crime.
If they started screaming at people and chasing after them and stuff, yeah, okay, there you go.
But they're claiming that someone came up and then some people started taking pictures of them.
And they're like, that's intimidation.
And it's like, bro, you're in public.
It's a different law, but it's the same story that we had with the face act which is the freedom to access clinic entrances which they used
against abortion protesters that often would just they're using right now right they're using right
now but but there were some supreme court cases and you can't be as aggressive but yeah they're
still using it here's another law where they creatively apply it to people to to get their
preferred preferred ends so i don't know. What do you guys think is going to happen?
Jeez, you want to go for it?
No, you go ahead.
Oh, man, regarding these, I kind of agree.
I just think in general, not even just this,
I think what happens on the 8th?
Unless you create faith in the voting system as a whole,
I think it's going to slowly unravel.
And for that, it's like I don't like digitized voting,
counting proprietary software, because I don't care if I'm mailing it in, handing it to a guy, putting it in a box and he's carrying it.
If it's being tallied by a machine and the codes in private, I don't know if they're flipping it.
Fifty one forty nine behind the scenes.
I've actually seen testimony of like developer that did that.
Clint Eugene Curtis, Clint Eugene Curtis.
I don't know if you ever heard his story, but what the he wrote the software to flip the votes.
Fifty one forty9 for a politician so democrats were were making these same claims that trump
supporters are making and you see the hillary clinton thing already hillary clinton came out
and said the republicans are planning on stealing 2024 it's okay it's okay when she does it it's
it's you know i don't even i don't even care at this point i'm just like the democrat and republican
culture the liberal and
conservative culture is by for it's it's it's two two distinct things two completely different
realities and it's been that way for a long time and now you've got both sides accusing each other
of cheating i don't care who you think is right left right up down whatever the fact is two factions
think both sides are stealing the election both sides disagree with each other's culture. How does that resolve itself?
Yeah.
You know, just seriously,
to the people who think it's silly
when I say things like civil war,
do you think the end result is going to be
that like Hillary Clinton walks up to Trump and says,
how could I stay mad at you?
And then Trump's like, come here.
And they hug.
Is it going to be like the BLM marcher
with the black mask on in the Molotov
sees the Trump supporter with the MAGA flag and then he drops
the Molotov and goes, what have I
become? And the Trump supporters, come here
buddy, and then they hug. Is there a Pepsi
there in Kylie Jenner? Yes.
That could work. Do they think that Kylie Jenner
is going to walk up to a BLM and Trump supporter and hand
them both Pepsis? Then they're going to both look at each
other and then hug. Seriously
though, for what reason
at any point would any of this de-escalate
i'm looking for a legitimate argument yeah i don't see it i don't see any form of de-escalation i'm
seeing a lot of people adding fuel to the fire i'm seeing this getting totally out of hand
this this building up of of calling elections illegitimate has been happening for many years
now the groundwork has been set for this, specifically when we look at, you know,
the Trump election, the Russian collusion, and all the people coming forward saying,
I don't trust this election. I don't trust this voting box. I don't trust this voting machine.
And I think there are some, you know, legitimate questions. I think a lot of people are also
sensationalistic and hyperbolic in a way that doesn't serve anyone's interest. But at the end
of the day, you know, that's a good question that you asked here.
And that's something that I've been thinking about
for a very long time.
And I see no off-road.
I see no way of stopping this train
coming ahead of a major disaster
inside of the United States.
The only thing that I can see that can fix this
is if you do have one party,
and I would say probably Republican,
landslide so that their side can see
faith in it, and then they win again. And there's some kind of strong agenda that they put in place
that can bring people to heel. So if the Republicans wins, the Democrats are going to say that they
cheated. Beating people down is about the only way that I can see that this works. Excuse me.
Wrong. No, no. I don't agree. I think that if we see an overwhelming Republican victory, like Luke was saying, the Democrats will claim the Republicans cheated, the countries become fascist. And already, there is this viral tweet where someone said, well, democracy is over, what are you going to do? And someone responded with, I'm not confident the left has the ability to form any meaningful resistance, but you need to, you know, I've been harping on this because I've been reading a lot more
about the Civil War.
The South was a lot of states, relatively, but not a lot of people.
It was like two to one, North to South.
They were the minority, a substantial minority.
And then slave owners were an even smaller minority. So, you know,
we may think like Democrats might break Republican and independent, but looking at Hillary Clinton
and her cohorts and the cult members, there's a strong faction there and they're not going to
accept a Trump victory. Now, here's a scenario to imagine. There's a Supreme Court ruling that's
coming soon that may set the precedent.
The state legislatures decide who gets the electoral votes.
I mean, that's literally what the Constitution says.
And for the longest time, the legislatures have said, oh, we'll do an election.
The people of our state vote, and then they vote for the electors to go and do it.
We don't appoint them.
But according to the Constitution, the state legislature could appoint the elect, however they see fit. It is to be determined by them. The way the country's
supposed to work. We vote for our state reps, senators, representatives. They then represent
us to the federal government. We've slowly changed that with the popular vote for the president and
with the 17th amendment, the popular vote for the Senate that could could change if this ruling goes down. Imagine this scenario.
Twenty twenty four election. Donald Trump versus Joe Biden, whatever.
The popular votes come in. Biden gets it. The statewide votes come in. Electoral College goes
to Joe Biden. But hold on there a minute.
Lawsuits are immediately filed.
Questions arise.
Poll observers, witnesses, testimony comes out.
Several states say we cannot issue a determination at this time.
This puts the Electoral College up in the air.
Two things could happen.
We could see the House do a simple vote.
We saw this based off of House delegations.
There was a concern that in 2020, because I think there were 26 House delegations that were Republican or something like that, Donald Trump would have won if it was pushed to a House
delegation vote. With this Supreme Court ruling, something else could happen. A state like Michigan
simply says, evidence has been brought to our attention, which leads us to believe, you know, this amount
of votes or that amount of votes are not correct or are illegitimate. Therefore, we as the state
legislature nullify them. The victory goes to Donald Trump. What would the left do in that
position? They'll say Hillary Clinton predicted this. The extremist MAGA Republicans are stealing the country.
And then what do you think they just say?
Well, I guess I'll go hang out at home.
This has happened before.
I mean, there have been there have been cases where states have flipped.
And I don't I don't see anything wrong with that process per se.
I mean, you know, the whole thing about, you know, you can you can get into Republican form of government problems if the state legislature is not even holding an election or something like that. But at the end of the day, there have to be processes in place to
count the votes to make sure that there's a state actor who's certifying things and
sending them to the archivist and whatnot. So I don't see a problem. It's happened before.
I guess the main thing I'll say is I don't really see that as happening because,
you know, look at what happened in 2020. Mike Pence, you know, wouldn't look under the
hood. Nobody looked under the hood. You know, you go state after state, people don't check under the
hood because they've got people beating down their door. So I don't see that happening. You gave
Michigan as an example. I don't see, you know, Shirky or whatever his name is, the lead at the
legislature there entertaining that sort of a thing. You know, time and time again, Arizona,
Michigan, Wisconsin, you see weak Republican leadership that doesn't do thing. You know, time and time again, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin,
you see weak Republican leadership that doesn't do that.
So I don't really see that as so much of a possibility. The more thing I see is states battening down the hatches in these purple areas
on behalf of blue candidates.
It's all very dubious, and no one ever has their views aired out.
Nobody ever checks under the hood.
The clips are coming.
Already I got one from Greg Rice.
Anything we can play? The beginning. We actually missed the beginning
when Fetterman said, hi, good night.
Really? Yeah.
I reposted that one.
Fetterman is asked to clarify whether he supports
fracking. Quote,
I support fracking and I don't.
I support fracking and I stand. And I do support fracking quote i support fracking and i don't i support fracking and i stand and i do support
fracking great i love how they brought up the information and he immediately says i never
supported fracking it's like we literally just read on the screen that said you supported fracking
in 2018 i don't know how you're gonna how you're gonna debate that or like i think it's the other
way around that he didn't support fracking in 20 no i don't know he didn't i think he said he did
think about fracking and nobody really brought it up don't know. I got it backwards. He didn't. I think he said he didn't. The thing about fracking, and nobody really brought it up, is when they first were doing
it, it was really dirty.
And they've advanced the chemicals that they inject in underground, so it's a lot cleaner
from what I've heard.
It was an EPA thing.
It wasn't like the workers.
It was like the runoff and stuff like that.
I just want to see someone splice his answer about, I get knocked down and I get up again.
Chumbawamba.
I want to see chumb-thumping.
He was appealing to the victim mindset.
Like if you're a victim, then I'm your guy.
Yeah.
Victims.
Versus surgeon.
I'm a surgeon.
Yeah, versus a guy who saves people's lives.
Did you know I was a surgeon?
Here's a tweet.
We do surgery by bringing people together.
David Harsanyi says,
if Dasha Burns was guilty of anything,
it was down
playing the extensive federman's problems and i recall all the famed outrage giselle federman
demanding consequences dasha burns interviewed federman he had used a special device and she said
that during the small talk it wasn't clear he understood what what she was saying
and a bunch of people on the left said that it's ableist, that someone with mental disabilities and brain damage should be allowed to hold office.
And, you know, they were outraged.
And they said that she was wrong and it was offensive and that criticizing Fetterman was akin to criticizing someone who needed reading glasses.
Wow.
Governor Abbott can't.
A cursory viewing of the debate determined that was a lie
dasha burns probably could have been a bit harsher on fetterman that was i can't believe
he agreed to do it i mean katie hobbs won't debate carrie lake fetterman could have just
been like nah he's up two points what does he got to lose well i think they know the bias in the
polls favors oz and so we had no choice. That was bad.
I mean, are they trying to lose?
That crossed my mind, but it was kind of a joke.
Like, is Fetterman a plant trying to get Oz elected?
Like, does he work for Dr. Oz?
Are we going to find out years later?
Like, they were always friends.
No, he's just a guy that broke, but he doesn't want to let go of what he used to have. Maybe the reason he said, you know,
I support fracking and I don't is so that the Democrats are able to
make a video of him answering
however they want him to answer.
Do you support fracking?
I don't.
Fracking.
I don't.
Sorry, I pulled the Thunerman.
Do you support fracking?
I don't.
I stand.
And then they're going to be like,
oh, then they'll run commercials saying it.
I think Oz should have just been like, the floor is yours john speak just go for it yeah i do think oz needed
a chance to explain his positions though yeah it was enlightening to listen to yeah we didn't get
into anything else though we had you know kanye stuff what's the kanye he's not a billionaire
anymore chats yeah kanye's net worth went from what two billion to one to six hundred million ish he's lost about three-fourths as well because
his adidas deal was canceled adidas canceled their uh i don't even know what the deal was
but apparently he's made him worth 1.5 billion yo yeezys go for hundreds of dollars easy shoes
they're called you know i just like i've never never wore i've seen i've seen them before and then I was just like, I ordered a couple
pairs when they said they were canceling them or whatever
I'm like, alright, you know, whatever
I'm not going to sell them or anything, I'm going to put them on my shelf
and just be like, hey, these were a thing once
What could have been?
The Kanye West, Lex Friedman interview
was eye-opening, I think everybody saw at least a clip from it
I saw a little small clip
Yeah, it was kind of worth it
I think it was an attempt by it. It was more of an,
I think it was an attempt by Lex to emotionally connect with Kanye.
They were both trying to be like,
hey, we don't know each other.
We both are engineers of a sort.
Let's be friends was the kind of the,
what they went into it.
And it was contentious and kind of a mess
because I didn't watch it.
I read it and it just read to me as smarmy.
Like he was talking down to Kanye
and trying to play the,
what's the problem
man i agree yeah i was i was like there's an opportunity to have a conversation with kanye
that's that's that's real and asks him to you know explain himself better but i didn't i didn't get
that interview it felt like it was very much like here's what the media said so i'm gonna i'm gonna
argue with you about it and kanye was getting frustrated he was like dude and then lex gave him the do you trust me and
kanye was like no and lex was like why should i'm devastated yeah why should he he doesn't know
literally i'm so sure like really hurt lex and it's like i mean at some point lex you gotta like
be a machine you know it's okay trust is built over generations it doesn't happen yeah i don't
trust someone i just met.
Why would you?
I wouldn't.
All right, we're going to go to Super Chats.
I don't trust anybody.
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Elite says,
Tim, I'm from Michigan and I just watched the Whitmer-Dixon
debates. Tudor absolutely smashed
her. Do you think you could reach out and
get her on? Michigan needs a new governor.
Thanks for all you do.
I mean, that'd be cool.
I'm down to have some more.
Governor Kennetts,
we've had Carrie Lake,
we've had Doug Mastriano.
They were both awesome.
I think Carrie Lake
could be president.
She really, really knows
how to handle herself
with the media.
I would love to talk
to Ms. Whitmore,
especially about her
health care record
when it came to, of course,
putting people in nursing homes.
I think that's a big question that should be asked to her
right now, and people should remember the past of
how she helped murder people.
All right. AI says, seriously, Tim,
AMC's Rubicon. You want to
write that down? You have a pen? Yeah, what was this?
Rubicon. It was that show.
What's it about? I'll send it to you.
I don't remember what it's about exactly.
I'll watch it to you. I don't remember what it's about exactly. I'll watch it tonight.
All right.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says,
Tim, I must say both shows last night were fantastic.
What I appreciate is that while we can all disagree on many topics,
we all still are on the same team,
unlike that of the left.
Forward the line.
Here, here, man.
Here, here.
It's important to debate and challenge your ideas, always.
All right. Let's grab some...
Salty Duckling says,
Someone should take the Hillary Clinton conspiracy video
and put it over the InfoWars background.
Oh, that's a really good idea, actually.
Yeah, that'd be funny.
But I think it'd be too insulting to Alex.
Yeah, definitely.
Alright.
Rhiannon Tunnel says,
I told my brother's girlfriend the constitution technically
gives me the right to keep and bear nukes she was horrified but had to agree i was right
yeah i'm not wrong you know these people i think it was like the young turks they were like was it
somebody tim pool thinks people should have nuclear weapons i didn't say they should i said
the right to keep and bear arms they didn't specify you know like can you have a can you have
a microwave gun i would imagine yeah i don't know it's it's it's like this is the crazy thing we
talked about this with weapons if you if you're uh uh when your waiter comes to you and hands you
a steak knife did he just give you a weapon yeah he did yeah every he handed you a weapon right
so a reasonable person would probably be like no it's a steak knife for your dinner.
Aha.
But what if he then whispered in your ear, that's your target, and then pointed to an old person?
Oh, now we're talking imminent threat.
That's illegal.
But see, the point is, he handed you the exact same thing.
Context doesn't change the fact that it is a weapon.
So when it comes to keeping bearing arms, knives, microwaves, whatever, dynamite, they're all weapons.
What's not a weapon?
I suppose you could argue technically something that was not designed with the intent to cause damage to a biological or structural entity.
Yeah, but I mean like assault with a deadly weapon could be a rock, a heavy rock.
Yep.
Wasn't designed.
Exactly.
Cheeseburgers.
Murder burgers. I guess whether or not it's a weapon is determined after the fact. What if you shove a heavy rock wasn't designed exactly cheeseburgers murder
whether or not it's a weapon is determined after the fact what if you shove a cheeseburger into
someone's mouth like down their throat to block their airways like would that be assault with a
deadly weapon i don't know maybe in some states but you weaponized a cheeseburger i think honestly
the fair way to classify weapons is after the fact because if you have a a rifle that's never
been fired and it's behind a glass case it's technically just a
gun it's not a weapon until you use it well they they do this in law they do categorize things
ahead of time whether it's a weapon or not and usually the state law like includes lists of
things and some description like a blade that's a certain length things like that i mean for for
for yeah for switchblade but it's not accurate because a small knife is a weapon that a butter
knife is a weapon a rock is a is a weapon. A rock is a weapon
in the right hands or in the wrong hands.
So we're talking about ten or so different laws. One could be
assault with a deadly weapon. One could be possession
of a switchblade. You can make a toothbrush into a weapon.
Toothpick? A toothbrush. They do it all
the time in jail. Water is a weapon.
I don't think the Second Amendment protects toothbrushes
though. I'd like to look into that.
I don't know, man.
Are knives considered arms? bayonets were they're not they're well i'm not sure that knives are
considered well maybe the knives are considered arms yeah sure sure all right let's uh let's read
some more this is this is a good one from jen desai says if federman cannot communicate without
a device in an emergency where power or internet fails he becomes a major liability. I want you to imagine you decide Fetterman should be your rep.
And he goes to D.C.
And let me ask you, Democrats, do you think January 6th could happen again?
All right, I want you to imagine Fetterman standing there when a January 6th type moment happens.
What do you think that man does?
Nothing.
Look around confused, wondering who's saying what is everyone's murmuring and
screaming and he's seeing people run in every direction and someone walks up to him and looks
him in the eyes and goes and he goes i have no idea what's being said to me right now
and they're saying run you need to run now and he just stands there confused like what's happening yeah i agree i feel
like he's uh kind of wait and be told what to do kind of guy in the state that he's in right now
unfortunately connor ski says i had a stroke three years ago at age 25 i wouldn't consider myself fit
for a job that's important maybe a good guy but still look man i i really am saddened by this i
don't wish this on anybody it can can happen to anybody. Yeah, literally.
Same thing with, you know,
these people mocking those who get like Bell's palsy or whatever.
I'm like, dude,
there's a lot of things that cause Bell's palsy.
I've seen stories of people who use like wasp spray
and then two weeks later,
they're like, oh, the chemical may have caused something
or other than that.
Like, I don't know.
I just try to say like, you know,
let's not drag people for stuff like that.
I think he should be criticized
because he should not be in this position totally he should have walked away and you should be able
to say that that's the thing you should be able to say when someone has something that's in between
them and a job you should be able to say something about it right and i think they try to put up
these walls like you can't you can't even talk about it it's ableist amber bird says don't forget
bill gates declared there would be a hung election
and then a subsequent civil war.
He is awfully good
at destructive predictions.
Do you think that's true?
He's good at predictions?
Yeah.
Yeah, he's very good.
He's remarkable
at a lot of predictions.
So he said
there will be a hung election.
Well, this is, I think,
relating to the civil war comment
that we were talking about
a couple days ago.
Bill Gates said in an interview, there will be a hung election and then a Civil War.
He didn't say there could be or I hope there won't be.
He said there will be.
Yeah.
That was freaky.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He also has a team that monitors people talking about him on the internet for some reason.
That's kind of weird.
If you had that much money, you'd do that.
I mean, to be fair, though, like we have marketing people, and we do track certain terms for the show and everything.
So I don't, like, listen to other shows talking about me, though, you know?
But he was specifically talking about going after, quote, conspiracy theorists and individuals that are critical of him.
His quote was, political polarization may bring it all to an end, comma, we are going to have a hung election and a civil war.
That's complete insanity.
I mean, first of all.
That's definitive.
Yeah.
He's just making an assumption.
Is he?
Yeah.
Or does he control it?
For all you know.
A nice Gates assumption.
Look at that guy agreeing with us.
Yeah, we made faces early because you were, like,
going to step on it or something.
No, I took some paper.
I thought you were going to crush it, and I was like,
don't do it, don't. because it was on george washington no because it like releases us oh i've
gotten rid of them before without without you got to freeze them yeah freeze them yeah yeah i use
like the duster and then they just instantly freeze and then they don't release this thing
yeah i cia bugs are everywhere when they come back to life right away we're in a place where
people it's like one person's prediction
versus another person's prediction
and who believes who.
And if enough people believe the one prediction,
then they're going to start living that life
to make that prediction reality.
They're going to look back and be like,
he was a prophet.
He was a prophet.
That kind of thing.
Yeah, he controls people by saying it.
Lord John Einerson says,
got my spot in Scotland.
Next to you, Tim.
Awesome sponsor.
I added the word Lord because now apparently he's gone to our sponsor's website.
Who is it?
Lord John Einerson.
Lord Einerson.
He got his established titles.
Your newest neighbor.
Establishedtitles.com slash Tim Pool.
I'm now a neighbor and we're landowners in
scotland we were making a joke about about this earlier like do we get air rights like do we get
mineral rights can i drill down into my one square foot find oil and then like build like a one
square foot massive oil pump the whole machine fits into one square foot hey the oil's mine
we'll see and and does that mean like you can't hold office in the
u.s anymore i hope not i've also got a title i don't think i'm up in the highlands you're up in
the highlands yeah let us not come to blows so i looked it up u.s doesn't grant titles and an
office holder can't accept a title but if you're not an office holder and you accept it ahead of
time maybe it's maybe it's good you All right. Justin says, Tim, please read
Vandenberg Space Force Base
comm squadron releasing member
health information to others, forcing out
member for identifying unauthorized network
on base and going to IG.
Member supervisor worked in base IG.
Leadership culture of new branch not great.
Interesting.
All right. Omega
Rasetsu says, Tim, I would like to correct you on something you stated
on your four o'clock segment the national guard is federal with the added step of the governor
being in the chain of command the uniform still says u.s army right but what i mean to say is
yesterday i said you're going to get like california they have a national california
national guard the national guard is not an individual is not going to want to be occupying their own
neighborhood or town.
They don't want to be that person.
I mean, who would for the most part?
Some people might, you know, and then someone said, Tim, the California National Guard won't
be enforcing federal mandate in California.
And I said, right, they're not going to send people to their own neighborhoods.
But if they do invoke the Insurrection Act and deploy military, you may end
up with people from whatever branch who are from a specific area being like, I will not bear arms
against my home neighborhood. Sorry, I won't do it. So my point was ultimately that you're going
to see state divisions. You're going to see people in the military choose to side with their state,
not because they care about their state, but because they care about where their family lives and they don't want to be the
one pointing a gun at their friends.
That's it.
We'll see, though, man.
I don't know.
Who knows how things play out?
History doesn't repeat.
It rhymes.
Chanston Ippolito says 23% chance for a second stroke, 0% chance to finish a sentence without
sounding like a robot.
This debate is uncomfortable to watch.
No different than the feeling following a Biden speech.
The republic deserves better.
The people of Pennsylvania, they can vote for their own destruction.
I mean, that's crazy, man.
That's just sad.
Charles Not Given says,
My first super chat is heartbreakingly sad a man that is struggling
to make his brain work like it used to and another mocking him for it saying his policies are things
in his imagination is that mocking oz no i think they're talking about john fetterman that it's
he's become a mockery but i i agree with that and i think that if he rested for a few years that he
could actually run reasonably for office.
Like if you let your brain recover,
but right now it's just so soon.
That's what's crazy for me.
Cause I had a brain injury in 2015 and it's insane to me that he would do
that.
Like what,
how long was in may?
Yeah.
It's utterly insane to me that he would go on to the end of the day,
but into a debate on a national level and try and answer questions like that.
If he can't even read the prompt, it's just, I't even imagine that's why he's sweating so much you know how
he's like having to read all those things and pay attention all this stuff i cannot i do not
understand what was the recovery like for you um i like i said before and on the i think based on
the member segment but it took me like i thought after a year i was okay but then after like three
or four years i was like wow after a year i was still not recovered whatsoever took me a lot
longer and i just don't i can't even imagine he has stroke dude it's a whole nother level
was it like confusion is the main problem is there um confusion also just like being able to speak
and and do simple things or i had a frontal lobe injury so mainly like my um you know like my
forward planning or future planning and uh my emotional control was was wild it was wildly
difficult just
to be able to have conversations and you know just keep it together in a sense at least initially so
he's within a year that dude is i don't even know he's definitely pushed by people to do this i
would think i mean they probably would you say a quarter of a billion dollars yeah they probably
went to him and he was probably i wouldn't be surprised if he was like i'm sorry i can't do this in fact i wouldn't be surprised if
he went i i'm i'm sorry i i can't and they said we have put a quarter of a billion dollars but
is that between oz and him or just him oz and him but see i don't know about that because
you don't run for office if you're not a narcissist of i mean like a politician just
like a politician they all think they can do it. They all think they're great.
So, I mean, I hope that he has that.
I mean, that's dark if they did that, but
really, it's more likely in my
mind that he's like, yeah, I can do this. I can do this.
A lot of politicians are also
sociopaths. Yeah.
That's why we love them.
Mostly Democrats, and then
largely Republicans, but there's a handful of good
Republicans. Oh, sure.
Because for whatever reason, they have some more libertarian-minded people, more America First-type people.
Yeah, it's important to love yourself and have faith in yourself, but not cross the
border of narcissism.
I've met some genuinely decent politicians.
I think Joe Kent is one.
Jeff Sessions, definitely a gentleman.
But for the most part, and I would think Fetterman, too. I mean, for the most part and i would think fetterman too i
mean for the most part uh certainly yeah i am says the dems are pure evil for make for making this
man stand on the stage in front of the world it hurts my heart in all honesty to watch this
tragedy i kind of agree honestly but you know it has to happen in this environment joe biden is
the president if he's really suffering cognitive, we have to confront this head on.
Yeah.
I mean, we briefly turned the debate off.
I was like, we can't do this.
This is insane.
He's not saying anything.
It's just garbled nonsense.
People want to hear it.
It's a train wreck.
People need to hear it, I guess.
They should have asked him his opinion on Joe Biden's cognitive decline.
Yeah.
It'd be cool if the candidates could ask
each other questions like huh nah i think that would get crazy too dirty yeah because they you'd
ask a question that you knew was not true for the sake of being accusatory like ian when did you
stop beating your wife you know what i mean hey you leave me out of this right i say put boxing
gloves on them and then be like ask whatever you want go ahead try a election by combat i like
that idea yeah i choose not to debate i choose to win the election by combat and then you put
them both in the ring and tetris thunderdome yeah what if what if it was a debate thunderdome
a physical physical contest like an obstacle course like ninja warrior a physical battle
like american gladiators and a mental battle like chess.
And they have to do all of these things.
I would love it.
American Ninja Warrior, just the political edition.
It would get rid of the 80-year-olds.
One guy would drink the mushroom tea beforehand and get all these bonuses.
And then you might have to screen them.
And if you're physically fit,
you're mentally fit as well, usually.
This is idiocracy accelerationism.
Yeah.
Might as well happen.
No, I think it's going to happen eventually.
Let's go.
No, no, this idea is good. Yeah, yeah. Like happen. It's going to happen eventually. Let's go. No, no, no.
This idea is good.
Yeah, yeah.
Like the idea that
in order to be a politician,
you have to be more than
just good at speaking.
Yeah.
What do we get?
We get a bunch of smooth talkers,
silver tongues,
and snake oil.
Make it so that you have to be
physically fit,
you have to be mentally fit,
and you have to
actually win the votes.
And not be a coward.
Right.
Also, to fight somebody.
And know what it means to get punched in the face.
I think a lot of people don't know what it means to get punched in the face.
No, many don't.
So that's a way to fix it.
Have them fight each other.
Let's go.
Let's make it happen.
Yeah.
Like, you earn a vote, like a.01 times advantage plus on all the votes you receive if you win the chess match, when you win the boxing match, when you win the obstacle course.
Hey, Bob got his ass beat, but at least he now knows what it means to get your ass beat.
And he's not going to be talking trash, and he's not going to try to start another war, hopefully.
Legacy Productions says, Oz's lucky federman has has health health issues
even with his speech federman is taking points away from oz and saying agreeable things
i won't completely disagree with that i think it was really bad but you know federman
he he there was there was one point i can't remember exactly what he said but i was like
okay that wasn't so bad that wasn't so bad i liked this thing on china i thought that was
coherent from front to back and then oz had something about, you know, what's the most important American foreign policy problem?
China.
And Oz was like, something, something, you know, invade in Iran.
China was the right answer.
Exuding strength that we seem weak to the rest of the world.
I think it's central banking.
Neither of them mentioned it.
The Mad Machinist says, given Biden's success, this guy is a shoo-in for the position.
That's the sad thing
isn't it yeah ghost pepper what what does this mean he said baby ruth what baby ruth that's
baby that sloth he yells that he wants a baby ruth that's right oh is that is that it baby at it. Baby Ruth. So bad. Baby Ruth.
Why am I laughing?
I feel bad.
John Myers says,
is Hector Salamanca a moderator?
I liked that one.
Yeah.
Because I recently
watched Breaking Bad.
We got the same,
same, the bell.
Ding, ding, ding,
ding, ding, ding, ding,
ding, ding.
Dude.
Yeah.
I'm going to explain.
Hector Salamanca.
Yeah.
Well, but that was
going,
because there was no bell.
No bell.
I feel like that show
should have ended at season four.
Like they dragged it on
with the next one.
Yeah.
Well, they were making money
at that point, right?
It was like at its height
about season four
is when the world
was obsessed with it the most.
All right.
Barely Insane says,
Fetterman almost sounds like
Norm MacDonald doing a bit,
but instead of being funny,
it's sad.
Yeah, true.
Ooh, this is a really important one
wow leor leor engelstein uh brilliant he writes have you ever had a dream that that um that you
had uh that you had to you could you you do you wit you uh you could do so you could do you want
you wanted him to do you so much you could do anything well i got that part of it i wanted him to do you so much you could do anything? Well, I got that part of it.
I wanted him to do you.
And the answer, I want not to start to make fun of people with mental disabilities because of this stuff.
But putting him up there, it makes him a mockery.
This has been said before on this show.
I don't need to reiterate.
But I really want to have compassion for people that are suffering from mental injuries of any kind.
Yeah, absolutely, man.
But get him out of public office right yeah i mean he's currently lieutenant
lieutenant governor that's crazy to resign john yep all right jim r says in fairness to fetterman
i just believe is the most honest answer i've ever heard a democrat give about how they plan happen agreed all right ingrate says but you know those feelings over facts uh are gonna love
fetterman's position on education what was his position i don't know i don't know he had one did
he yeah i thought he didn't say anything other than you didn't answer the you know, it's the baleen.
He said baleen.
That was one of the words he said.
Baleen.
Yeah.
Yeah, his position on it.
I'm not going to translate that for him. Those are the things the whale.
Baleen.
Baleen.
They sift the krill through that.
It's called baleen.
Baleen.
He was talking about whales.
I am not.
I do not play these games.
If you say the wrong word you said it
you said it and they expect the journalists to come out here and start fixing it for them
can hear some meme forges firing up right now okay let's grab uh what do we got here
wise guys it takes us how are you not doing a drinking game watching this
if dems were sane or informed republicans just swept pennsylvania yo if not doing a drinking game watching this if Dems were sane or informed
Republicans just swept Pennsylvania
yo if we did a drinking game that like every time
Fetterman said something that made no sense
we would all be completely obliterated
we'd have slammed all of the remaining
whiskey that we have and we'd been begging
please stop
in an hour wow
drinking is not good for you
it shrinks your brain
let's see what we got here a lot of people are basically saying the same thing so Yeah, drinking is not good for you. It shrinks your brain.
Let's see what we got here.
A lot of people are basically saying the same thing. So, you know, Ryan Farrell says,
First Super Chat for my 33rd birthday.
Love the show.
Happy birthday, Ryan.
We have this one from Christopher Farrelly.
Pesobic is saying,
If Fetterman wins, he steps down for health reasons,
and Wolfe or Shapiro appoints his wife.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah.
There you go.
What's the deal with his wife?
Fetterman's wife?
Yeah, she likes some hot shot.
I don't know.
Don't know.
Probot says Fetterman will appoint his wife.
Heck, Biden already said she would do well.
It's already planned.
We will see.
A lot of people thought Kamala Harris was going to take over, that Biden was going to
step down due to health reasons. It could still i suppose she's not fetterman what's her
excuse i don't know this is his wife giselle barretto fetterman brazilian american activist
dragon stallion says all i heard fetterman say was i support it because i don't support it
that's right i was like what i support it but i don't support it huh well okay dude
cricket smile says damn ian be brightening up the place with that orange beanie hey yo
glad you like it everyone's wearing a beanie except the me and you yeah true it was odd
on like the actual i need a breakdown it was two you guys on the other side on the left side
debate and then everybody's on the other side and the left side with no B's. It was a B debate. And then everyone else on the other side.
Here's a good one.
Yeah, but Trump says, lies.
Luke's made up vocabulary far exceeds Biden and Fetterman's put together.
That is a true, that is a fair point.
Maybe.
Lukeisms.
Why don't you, you should make a shirt with all the, we should like write down the words.
And the real definitions of what they mean.
Yeah, no, right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, like Simpsons made cromulent and embiggen happen you know that yeah i've heard you say words like it'll be like uh two things
sounds that aren't a word but you put them together and it makes sense yeah mine makes
sense at least right thank you ian i appreciate that also what are you guys hiding underneath
the beanies there's something underneath there isn't it just well what is it a warm head my
friend a warm head what about you tim what do you got under the beanie
nothing literally nothing at all just a vacuous space it's a yes another another dimension it's
uh it's a portal it's um it it's a atomisk will come out if i take the beanie off so i can't
yeah anybody who understands that reference you earn brownie points i'm sure most people probably
well actually i don't know I think Serge got it right nope
none of you got it
Atomisk
will come out of my head if I take the beanie off
where's
who's gonna get the reference
watching the chat but
I'm cheating I'm looking it up online
Atomisk
Atomisk
yeah makes it easy alright you look it up and we'll read some more online. Atomos. Atomisk. Oh, Atomisk.
Yeah, makes it easy.
Alright, you look it up and we'll read some more.
Alright, what do we got here?
Congafool says,
Luke, if DeSantis runs for president,
will you try to make shirts for him,
aka Make America Florida shirts?
We already have Make America Florida shirts.
I think that's a great statement.
Did you find it?
Yeah.
The chat already figured it out.
Atomsk.
Uh-huh.
Atomusku,
also known as the Pirate King.
That's right.
Kaizoku.
The Pirate King.
Kaizoku-o!
Is that how you say it? Yes.
The space travel
in FLCL
is achieved
through
between the hemispheres
of the brain.
I saw FLCL on the chat. saw foco on the chat i've seen that
show yeah i've seen the whole thing i just don't remember the word no me either yeah it was a great
show microwave yeah only six episodes and then they tried remaking and i phenomenal no one i
don't think anyone cared for the remakes no that was just weird gorgeous it's so emotional and
it's like such a 90s throwback too yeah like the music everything it's great oh it's yeah it's such
a good show yeah shout out fully co FLCL. That's right.
That's right. Shout out to everybody who got
it right. Yeah.
Alright. Let's grab some more super chats.
Chris
Scannapieco.
Probably pronouncing that wrong. I don't feel
bad. Dude was awful even before his stroke.
You know,
someone can be bad.
Someone can be nasty, but I just
gotta tell you, karma you don't
wish that stuff on people you know why because then karma finds a way yeah don't you'll come out
someone i'm telling you right now there's a lot of people watch this show and i don't know who
it's going to be but someone's going to be sitting there laughing and mocking him and just ragging on
him and making fun of him and then an hour later they're going to collapse and their family's going
to scream and they're going to have a stroke and they're going to be sitting in a wheelchair being
like now i understand
that's the way the universe works sometimes yeah i've noticed that black magic it's untargetable
like you just say i want that ill for a person and then it just illness creeps into your reality
i think white magic works the same way when you want healing for someone that the universe tends
to heal you as a result as well i don't know about all that i i get it but you know what i think is
i've seen a lot of stuff in my life that i would say defies probability or at least what we think
is probability which either means within my limited human confines we are predisposed to
believe in something greater than us or it means based on our basic understandings of probability
and arithmetic there are things that sometimes seemingly defy that,
and we want to believe in something greater.
It's quantum entanglement.
It's scientific fact at this point that objects can entangle within reality,
and they start to interact similarly.
They vibrate together.
But it's one object.
What may be happening is that when electrons are entangled,
is that you infuse energy on one
and it moves
and then hundreds of miles away
and the other one's moving
but it may be because
it's actually the same object
through multiple dimensions
or something like that.
But I'm just saying this.
Throughout my life,
there have been moments
where I've been watching a video
and I'm like,
that guy's so dumb
and then I high five my friend
and we make fun of a guy
and then a week later,
they're like,
I want to introduce my friend
and I'm like,
it's the guy
and I'm like, oh geez, now I feel bad. And and we make fun of a guy. And then like a week later, they're like, I want to introduce my friend. And I'm like, it's the guy.
And I'm like, oh geez, now I feel bad.
And so I've learned at a young age,
like I would rag on somebody skating and then I would fall and be like,
I'm never doing that again.
Like I'm just going to mind my karma
and just try and be nice.
Learn that lesson very young.
Don't mock people who are suffering.
Wish for them the best for
one reason because when it happens to you you're going to wish for sympathy as well it's so crazy
that there's that state of mind which i i i love i embody that and then there's war where the goal
is to destroy another thing or person or society it's incredible that we live in that binary
duality if it's only two i mean there's more than that going on like all right let's read this one we got artemisia says he legit said quote i didn't read in the statue of liberty
uh-huh he did yeah i think it was referring to the plaque right oh you know give me your tired
or huddled masses ezra whatever yeah okay happy guy says predicted says oz will win 69 yeah well there you go raymond g stanley jr says
tim nobody high fives after insulting someone i mean figuratively not not not literally like i'm
like hey look at that guy he's dumb yeah i meant like we're like watching a skate video and then
we're just like dude that guy's pants are so dumb oh he's gonna eat it ah what a what a dork and
then you know later you fall and get hurt you're're like, I'm not going to rag on people.
I'm going to wish for only the best.
Because, like, you don't want,
you know, bad karma.
Yeah.
At the very least,
when bad things happen to you,
you can be like,
well, you know, I did my best.
Right?
All right.
This is a very important one
from Austin Carroll.
He says,
I'm pooping right now.
Still?
Still.
It's been going on for a while.
Why don't you leave that super chat? Have a good poop. Yeah, that's right. That's right, you know on for a while did you leave that super chat have a good
poop yeah yeah that's right that's right you know use a squatty potty all right austin s says here
in minnesota the governor didn't show up for a debate so his republican opponent had an uninterrupted
q a session dems are doomed what really just didn't show up wow i know carrie lake did that
basically right she had like an empty stage or something, and then she just answered questions.
Wow.
That's great.
Yeah, man.
She's phenomenal.
She's just always on.
Always on.
All right, quick.
Name a Democrat A-lister.
Me?
AOC.
I mean, I don't even know where to start.
That's a good point.
Yeah, AOC.
Gavin Newsom.
I don't know.
I don't think so.
I don't know why.
He's like, he's B-tier.
You know.
AOC.
Bernie Sanders?
Yeah, but Bernie Sanders is like retiree status.
He's like 37.
He's about to be a free agent.
They're probably maybe won't get drafted or get hired again.
I mean like an up and coming young star of high charisma.
Mayor Pete.
No way.
No, I agree.
Beto.
Like I'm naming people that they throw out there but bernie's
too old terrible he's not gonna he's he's very famous but he's too old yeah newsom is not an
a-lister no but name a republican a-lister come on so easy there's like 10 of them trump obvious
gnome desantis carrie lake just carrie lake just ridiculously obvious and then uh
yeah mtg lauren bobert these are massive personalities. AOC, I think,
is fair. But the rest of the squad, they've not been particularly prominent. And even AOC hasn't
really been particularly prominent. Democrats are just flopping around. It's brutal. All right,
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thank you for coming on that was i mean the show really got dominated by us just talking about the
debate but you know oh man that's that's so depressing. I wouldn't,
I wouldn't watch it otherwise.
And when you turn it off the first time,
I'm like,
thank goodness.
Thank goodness.
And then the second time I'm like,
no,
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I covered the very optimistic New York Supreme court case and decision that I
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Yes, but I also got a video that people can watch afterwards and potentially right now.
But also, usually I'm in the chat room all the time.
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And if they guess it right, they get the shirt and $100.
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Actually, I'll mention what our plan is in the Members Only show.
But it's going to be funny.
It's a gag, okay? Just want to let you guys know guys know we're doing a bit thank you guys so much for coming and Andrew thanks for experiencing the shared trauma amongst the group I think so
much it has bonded us and made us stronger and closer yes I don't feel strong it was like battle
I think it takes a few days to set in it's like after working out you feel all ripped up and
that's right it's like PTSD you'll be you feel all ripped up. That's right. It's like PTSD.
You'll be stronger for it.
Flashbacks.
Catch you guys later.
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