Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #647 Leftist Arrested For Attempted Murder Of Paul Pelosi, Targeted Nancy w/Gavin Wax
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A deranged man broke into the Pelosi's home in the wee hours of the morning,
mercilessly beating Nancy Pelosi's husband, Paul, with a hammer, fracturing his skull,
seriously injuring him. Paul Pelosi is expected to recover, but he had to get brain surgery.
It turns out now, first, the individual was seeking
Nancy, screaming, where's Nancy? And now we have information on this individual's potential
motivations. While the media initially reported that he had anti-COVID conspiracies and was
posting things about the election, it turns out he's a self-identified member of the Green Party,
has a pride flag in front of his house, and is a nudist. I don't know if you can necessarily put him in any camp because he's maybe just crazy,
but he's an identified member of the, self-identified member of the Green Party. So
that's the left. I mean, I know many of the higher profile leftists would reject that. And well,
you know, it is what it is. But I'll make sure we make that clear. This guy is a crazy person.
And I'm not I'm not convinced that what he was doing is is reflects on any coherent ideology.
If someone showed up to the Pelosi's house with a clear understanding of what was going on in a political mission, I would say that was political and that was, you know, intended to be some kind
of assassination. But this this guy just seems crazy. But we'll read the story. We'll get into
that. And also, we have way more developments on the Elon Musk story. At first, it was reported
he was going to be unbanning people. Then he said, no, no, no one's getting unbanned until a diverse
moderation committee comes together and convenes. Then he said anybody who is arbitrarily banned or
dubiously banned will be reinstated. So should get interesting. We'll go
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There's so much to go through. Joining us to talk about this and so much more is Gavin Wax.
Thanks for having me back, Tim. Great to be here.
Who are you?
I'm a columnist with Town Hall, Newsmax, American Greatness.
I'm the head of the New York Young Republican Club. We're the oldest and largest club in the country.
And I'm a co-author of an upcoming book, The Emerging Populist Majority, which should head to print this December.
And writing with my co-author and a good friend,
Iraq War veteran Troy Olson. Right on, right on. We also got the t-shirt vendor. Hey guys,
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I was not around yesterday.
Great news.
I know, we needed you.
Elon picked it up.
I know that now I see that he's starting a council.
He wants to get advisors on
to figure out how to go about adjudicating the system.
So, Elon, I am available if you want.
Some people have nominated me for this council.
And I can put you in touch with a lot of great free software advocates.
We can get in touch with Chris.
You already know Chris Pavlovsky.
But we'll just start organizing a lot of the heads of the social media organizations and then see if we can start federating and beyond.
There's things better than federation, better than the Fediverse, like Nostr, N-O-S-T-R particularly.
We'll talk more about that as it becomes topical.
And I am Serge.com.
Liked Twitter so far.
We've only been on it for like a day.
It's been interesting.
It's also been a lot of bad stuff too.
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if you want to pick that one up. Let's jump to the first story from the San Francisco Chronicle.
What we know about David DePape, man accused of attacking Paul Pelosi with a hammer.
First and foremost, the story is he broke into the house. I believe it was in the wee hours of
the morning, screaming, where's Nancy? That's what they've reported. And then mercilessly beat Paul Pelosi with a hammer.
I mean, it's deranged and unhinged. But many people are trying to figure out what the motivations of
this man was. Of course, immediately, people on the right were saying, sounds like crime.
It's San Francisco. Why would we assume otherwise? I think that's logical. Many on the left said,
clearly, it's Republicans, it's MAGA, this is what they want
for you. Well, they were wrong. It turns out he listed himself as a member of the Green Party.
Voting records show DePape listed himself as a member of the Green Party years ago.
So this is not somebody who just had it in his profile. It's not the media just claiming it.
It's actually in his records, Green Party. Green Party is leftist. Now, it's not like Antifa. It's actually in his records, Green Party. You know, Green Party is leftist.
Now, it's not like Antifa.
It's not like Democrats or anything.
It's like its own, you know, sect of leftists.
But that's what it is.
It was an unhinged leftist conspiracy theorist.
When I talk to people on the left and I say that the left has their share of conspiracy weirdos, they always tell me that's not true.
And then you point out the weird hippie crystals,
natural health, anti-government, anti-war stuff.
And they say, oh, but that's not really left wing.
And I'm just like, shut up, dude.
Bro, the guy was a leftist.
I'm not saying that's why he did it.
He was an anti-government conspiracy theorist.
This doesn't have to be about politics.
It can be about a crazy guy, but.
Being for natural health isn't a conspiracy theory.
But anyway.
I'm not saying that i'm saying there are conspiracy theorists who have like a conspiracy view of natural stuff it's kind of sad how you know something tragic happened something really
bad happened someone gets seriously hurt and the first thing that happens is everyone jumps online
trying to blame it on some other political opponent for their own political purposes
uh i
think it's fair to say this guy was crazy he was unhinged he was absolutely a lunatic and it's
horrible it sucks what happened here and of course it should be always said that that this should
never happen and not out of place in san francisco which has a massive mental health crisis you have
people like this this green party guy all over the streets so i mean it goes without saying that
it's probably just a matter of the crime the homelessness i think he had a house he lived with roommates
or something dude had a pride there's a pride flag an american flag pride flag in front of the house
apparently well he was he was living in berkeley as part of a nudist organization and group two
public safety investigative reporter for nbc bay area posted this image of this house and there's
a pride flag that is not a right-wing dude now look look, I agree with you, Luke. And I also I think there's an inherent problem with
how we try to fairly represent this. If this was when when it was only known that he posted
election conspiracy theories, they were all saying, oh, it's MAGA, it's Trump supporters.
This proves it. They immediately latched on and went for the political attack.
Then we find out it's a Green Party guy with a pride flag,
and we go, guys, guys, calm down.
We shouldn't make this political, right?
That's a huge problem.
I'm not saying I know a solution.
I say we should ban nudists and put them into camps.
Clearly, the nudists are surely responsible for all of this,
and they were working for this all along
especially with their secret society
and organization that they have set up in
San Francisco where they have been clearly popping
up out of nowhere randomly all the time. I'm telling
you. What if I'm just I'm just
a match. I want you to bear with me and I want
you to imagine a perfect world for a moment
tomorrow. Nancy
Pelosi holds a press conference and
she says I cannot believe what happened to
my husband if he had a magnum 357 this wouldn't have happened i am now in favor of the second
amendment that was my second thought the first thought was well how injured was he hopefully
he's okay kind of thing and then the brain surgery did he have a gun did he he didn't fire on this
this home intruder and he i wish we could have gone in san francisco bro yeah so like if he had had a gun and the guy broke
in with a hammer to crack his skull he probably would have fired on the guy put him down and then
ended the invasion in in that that again is a radical idea that makes no sense at all clearly
what we have to do here is ban hammers hammers are the problem there's too many of them anyone
could just get them without any background checks anyone could just transfer a hammer to another person clearly right now the
government has to intervene go to home depot immediately no shut down the hammers no no no
no one is actually saying ban hammers we just want common sense hammer control okay yes no military
grade hammer handles we don't want any scary hammer heads. No black
hammers. No black hammers at all.
It needs to have an orange tip.
No bump stock hammers.
It's time to start making
the memes.
It's time to start making the memes.
We need to start making memes of bump
stock hammers, pistol grip hammers,
pump action hammers. Just have at it friends.
AR-15 with a hammer attachment.
Hammer foregrip.
But you brought up a great point, Ian.
Absolutely.
People should be armed, especially if they're elderly,
especially if they're living in a crime-ridden place like San Francisco,
especially if they're popular and everyone knows where they live.
This is not the first time that the Pelosi's have had their house targeted. Everyone should have the right to defend themselves. And whether you're
a woman or someone who's elderly or someone who's weak or fragile, whatever it may be,
what is the great equalizer is you having the ability to be able to defend yourself in a
firearm does that more and better than anything else out there. I also want to know what prescriptions
he was on, what pills, because this is really what it comes down to.
It's a mental health crisis.
We got a lot of people on these heavy antidepressants
and it sends them off the deep end.
And maybe he was just a nice, hippie, peaceful Berkeley guy,
you know, just living out his best life in the nude.
And then he snapped.
That's the real story.
Maybe he ate Taco Bell.
And then he just went like,
and some raw milk.
Maybe the Taco Bell had a bunch of ssris in it
that someone just laced in there accidentally when they were working for the company and then
you know that brain chemistry just got all out of whack and then bada bing bada boom now this is not
a natural health conspiracy but i do think if you eat nothing but fast food your brain is probably
going to be messed up in a certain way and what what I mean is like simply put, you're probably missing some nutrients if you're
only eating a lot of this garbage.
Like that Super Size Me guy, he said the reason he wanted to eat McDonald's for 30 days was
because if they serve breakfast, lunch, and dinner, they clearly want you to be eating
it.
Their response is like, we don't expect someone to eat nothing but McDonald's.
But it's like, dude, if you're selling food, people are going to eat your food.
That should be the regulatory standard.
It's like if you only eat your food
for X period of time, what are the impacts?
It shouldn't just be the one-off time
you eat it. It should be a set
period of time over a month, whatever it is.
Yeah, otherwise you should have a prescription.
If you're not able to have it, well, I guess
what do they say with alcohol? Just use it at your own discretion.
Well, that's how prescriptions are regulated. How does it impact
you over the entire time of of the prescription it should be the
same if you're for food a month two months whatever it is so here's what's funny he they say in the
san francisco chronicle the dude had a blog with screeds about the ruling class right-wing
conspiracy theories and racial slurs yo the the the the populist stuff is left and right that's
the thing like he was he was Green Party.
It was funny.
I saw someone post.
I can't remember who posted it.
They said that, like, the Venn diagram of a Trump supporter and a nudist Berkeley hippie is not a circle.
And I'm like, it probably overlaps.
Right.
To be completely, like, for real. A bunch of anti-war leftists became Trump supporters.
Well, 8 million Obama voters, 9, voted for Trump.
I mean, there was a huge Bernie contingent after the primary.
I mean, this is a real phenomenon.
And like you said, it's a populism that crosses partisan lines.
And it really just speaks to the anti-establishment nature of a lot of these guys.
He's clearly anti-establishment if you're going to try to assign any kind of overarching political ideology to him.
But beyond that, I mean, where this guy falls on a right left spectrum who knows i mean they mentioned
he posted q stuff too and that's why i'm like the dude's clearly just crazy yeah but if you want to
play games you know in the media well he was a green party right there you go yeah i think when
you talk about ruling class it's really an economic issue and that can be left or right
or up or down i suppose well it's really not yeah it's not that linear spectrum it's really an economic issue. And that can be left or right. Or up or down, I suppose.
Well, it's really not. Yeah, it's not that linear spectrum. It's that square,
you know, the libertarians always like to use with the authoritarian,
non-authoritarian, economic, statism, you know, laissez-faire. So if you put it on that,
it makes a little more sense.
He was a hemp jewelry maker.
No wonder he went off.
He probably blown his mind out on psychoactives, is my guess.
Where's Nancy?
So, Daily Mail says he had a hit list of other politicians.
Yeah.
Well, I'm glad he's behind bars.
What's his status right now?
He's facing attempted murder charges right now.
Was he going to be let off?
He's Canadian.
He's Canadian.
Oh, there you go.
Also, apparently anti-Semitic as well.
I think he's just crazy.
That's the first thing you know it's it's funny that what's going to happen now based on the q stuff and the election
stuff is the left is going to say he's a right winger right and then when you point out he's a
green party they're going to be like no that doesn't matter because he did this you know what
i mean what annoys me about this is that you go to the city and you have attacks like this on the
subway weekly monthly constantly asian americans jewish
americans whoever it is they get attacked by lunatics like this and those guys are out you
know within a week from bail reform or whatever and then obviously it finally hits home to the
elites and i'm not trying to downplay it's obviously horrible what happened to her husband
but it just goes to show that you know it's only becoming an issue and there's only going to be
some serious there there was a guy in new y York City that was caught on a viral video putting an ax in front of a woman's face after smashing up a McDonald's, threatening to essentially kill her with it.
He got out the next day.
And he was on New York One.
He was doing interviews.
He was on the media circuit.
And he was like, oh, listen, it was hot.
I had a rough day.
And it was like, this could have been this guy.
And then a couple days later, he got arrested again from stealing a bike and running away after doing graffiti.
And again, this guy, of course, is going to have a very stiff sentence.
This guy is, of course, going to be kept in jail.
Other people who commit other crimes, other crazy people, on regular Joe Smose, they just get let go every single day because of the George Soros appointed district attorneys all throughout the united states that have been causing havoc everywhere and when i was talking about banning hammers and blunt objects
we got to understand many years according to the fbi statistics more people have died from hammers
uh than than rifles i'm pretty sure it's illegal to walk around chicago with a baseball bat
well it depends if you're coming from like a baseball field like it depends on how you're
brandishing it right no uh my understanding at least this is what the cops told us.
They were like, if we see you with a baseball bat,
we can arrest you for possession of a weapon.
But typically, if you have a baseball bat and a baseball together,
they could, but you probably won't get in trouble.
But that's how broken things are.
So in Illinois, I'm pretty sure like the only weapon,
or in Chicago, the only weapon you can have,
it used to be this way pre the...
What was the decision in D.C.? Was it Heller?
Was it Heller? I don't know. You still want to
look it up? The handgun decision in 2008?
Yeah, it was Heller versus...
You could only have a two-foot-long rubber switch
for whacking somebody.
And all the criminals had guns.
So we know how that worked out.
It's just asymmetrical warfare. Law know, law-abiding citizens.
You know, you're off on your own with that rubber thing you just mentioned,
and good luck bringing it to a gunfight.
Dude, I don't know if you guys saw this video out of New York
where there's a guy in a hood on the subway,
and then another guy is just walking, money was in business.
First guy just runs full speed, and then boom,
body slams him right onto the tracks
and then runs for it.
What happened to that guy
that got knocked on the tracks?
I don't know about that guy.
I know that several people
have been killed.
Yeah.
What would you do
if you saw that happen in front of you?
Jump down on the tracks,
grab the guy
and get him up onto the platform?
You try, I guess.
Like you don't want to land
on the third rail.
He's not touching the third rail.
And you can't touch him.
You'll get locked in.
Well, there's always delays.
Or blown back. Every time there's a delay like that, I mean, you know what happened. You may not be the third rail. And you can't touch him. You'll get locked in. Well, there's always delays. Or blown back.
Every time there's a delay like that, I mean, you know what happened.
You may not be at that stop.
You may be a while away, but it's a commute.
Either someone did it themselves, it's a suicide, or one of these instances.
When I lived in New York, I used to think like, okay, I don't need to work out all the time.
I wasn't obsessed with being strong, but I was like, I need to be strong enough so that if someone falls on the track, I can jump down and get them up out of the track.
I consciously think about where my head would land if I was just pushed, if I would make it to the track.
And I just try to give myself an extra foot or two in case someone comes from behind.
But depending on the force, it doesn't really matter.
They can get you on that onto the tracks if they really push.
And I'm sure MTA will say, don't go down there.
It's too dangerous.
Don't put yourself at risk if someone falls on the track.
But that goes through my head.
I'm like,
God, I hope that guy's okay.
Is it, Luke,
was it Japan or Singapore
where they have glass blocking?
It's Singapore.
Japan.
Singapore.
There was some high school
when they installed all those.
And it's like,
basically just doors
that are exactly like
the train doors.
They open and then
they allow you to go
through the door.
And then the airport
has a glass.
Yeah, a separate glass line.
I think Japan does that too.
Japan does that as well. Not for crime. then for suicide if you kill yourself in japan there's particular uh lines and particular access roads where there's bigger fines for the
family members of the individual that killed themselves than other roadways that aren't as
popular so your family gets fined like in japan if you kill yourself that is interesting they have
seppuku right which is like
a historical
a traditional thing
of like an honor suicide
or whatever
and so it's interesting
that there is an element
of some kind of
high suicide in Japan
I wonder if that's just like
a cultural thing persisted
so people are more willing
to do it
I don't know
culture
long working hours
you know
I feel it's a litany
no families
no babies
they sell more adult diapers than baby diapers oh well that's coming to a country near you you can't population cliff it's not coming it's a i feel it's a litany no families no babies they sell more adult diapers
than baby diapers oh well that's coming to a country near you you can't population coming
it's here it's it's already here no no more ways than we went we went to a theme park
and uh this was the halloween party the theme park it was dead there was no one there well
this is why disney is shifting to like nostalgia porn yeah for like 30 40 year
olds because they don't have that child family market anymore nope i predicted this um recently
that the phenomenon of abe simpson saying you know when i when i was young i was with it then
they changed what it was and now what it is is scary to me and it'll happen to you too that's
not going to happen to us yeah and the reason is the millennial generation is probably going to be the biggest generation drop off and that's it it's we're the top of the hill
and uh gen z may be a little bit bigger so maybe it's gen z but afterwards it's going to get lower
and smaller and the population's already contracting that's a fact outside of any
pandemics war world war three or otherwise the future generations are smaller and smaller so
what's going to happen is disney is shifting its nostalgia marketing for one simple reason.
They're like, we got 30 million potential millennials to sell to or 10 million kids.
Sell to the older millennials.
There's more of them.
There's more money.
If 10 million little kids brought a dollar, what are we going to get?
If the millennials come, they'll bring their kids.
We'll get even more money.
Target the nostalgia.
So that means they're going to keep trying to pander to the millennial, probably like a range of millennial
to Gen X with mostly millennial in the middle.
That's who they're going to be targeting.
I don't think people realize when you hit these TFR,
total fertility rates, like 1.2, 1.3,
I mean, the drop-off is significant.
And Japan is just going to be suffering,
like, you know, population decline in the millions
for the next few decades.
Already are. Same with China. China as in the millions for the next few decades. Already are.
Same with China.
China as well.
Same with majority of Europe.
Correct.
All of Eastern Europe, Western Europe.
So we went to this haunted house thing.
There was booze and there was food and there was rides
and it was a little older crowd.
It was packed.
We go to the theme park, mostly for kids.
I mean, like there was a zip line there that i i sat on and then i was hitting the
ground because they're like i'm just i'm a man you know but i i was well under the weight limit
well under and uh it's like it was like a family thing and so we went there and it was mostly kids
but there was like 30 in the whole place so we're i was just i was like yo where is everybody
people don't have kids where are the kids I don't know
did it cost money to get in
well you like
you get a charge card to do anything in the park
and then spend money
30 bucks to get in or something
you get a card and if you want to do anything
you tap the card so if you want to play mini golf
you tap it if you want to go on a ride
so it's free to get in and then it's like pay per ride
but you can't do anything unless you get a card it's just the signs of a dying society and then
you have the other side of it is that the the the millennials these young adults they're just
becoming infantilized because they're not progressing to the next stage of their life
you know with with a family or even you know other things a business etc economic reasons
intentionally intentionally i mean look it's it's great you have a smaller population to control it's a lot easier than a population growing that has to worry about its
posterity i mean you got these leaders in in europe like merkel you know she's not there anymore but
none of them had children so what do they care what do they care about the future of
their their nation state whether it's germany or uh france whatever it is kamala doesn't have
any children as well does justin Trudeau have any kids?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Probably cousins in Cuba.
So I wonder if it's these devices.
This is what Dr. Phil was saying.
Oh, yeah, he has three kids, apparently.
Dr. Phil was like,
it's the first generation of people raised on these devices.
From since 2007, it's this.
And then you've got the fentanyl
that the Chinese are putting
into the Mexican cartels
that are being shipped up
to destroy our culture that way.
I don't know if that's the intention but that's what's happening
it's like the opium wars the food supply do you guys see the viral video where it's like this
tiktok young teenage girl gen z girl being like my mom won't give up her cds and she's filming
and she's like this is my family's cd collection and my mom won't get rid of them and then her mom
is standing there she goes i am not getting rid of them. I got rid of my albums. Then they came back. I want my CDs. And she goes,
mom, I can play any one of these songs faster on my phone. And she goes, no, it's because I don't
remember these bands. You're like, I like Oingo Boingo. I wouldn't even remember that they were
around unless I looked at the CD. But what's fascinating in that interaction is the young kid raised on the phone is like,
but I can just play Go.
And it's like, you are too young, I suppose, to understand.
No, no, I'm sorry.
Youth isn't the reason for it.
You are lacking in context and information.
There were people who gave up their vinyl collections thinking like vinyl's going out the window.
Vinyl never died.
Now all of a sudden,
they're worth tremendous amounts of money.
You go to these resale shops, antique shops,
and it's like the prices are going up and up and up.
So yeah, this woman's like,
I'm not giving up these CDs.
There's going to be a nostalgia factor.
People are going to want to pop those CDs in.
But she makes another really good point.
Yo, when I put on music on Pandora and Spotify,
I don't even know half the bands that are playing.
I don't grab my phone and then type in music.
Like we don't know phone numbers anymore.
Right.
We don't know phone numbers anymore.
But the main point is, the commentary I saw in this is, you will own nothing and you will
be happy.
This little kid is like, just rent the idea of music from the machine mom.
What's the problem?
And the mom is like, i want my music that i own
tangible i like that you phrased it that it was really the problem was the ignorance of the kid
uh it was the ignorance of the human that was like didn't realize the benefit of like if they
a vinyl because it's not gen z that's the problem it's the ignorance and a lot of times
kids are ignorant just because they're kids and they don't have the world experience yet some kids
actually aren't ignorant because they have fantastic parents.
And some old people are extremely ignorant.
So it's not youth that's the issue.
But has any generation in human history gone through so much technological, societal, cultural change in such a short period of time?
I mean, these are things that typically have happened over centuries, millennia. I mean, if you look at a regular Joe Schmo from 1820,
is he that much different from 1720, 1620, 1520? I mean, yeah, there's things on the margins, but
the change from, say, post-World War II to today is on a scale that we've never seen before. And
I feel like it's almost evolutionary at this point. And I think it's leading to a lot of the
psychological issues we're seeing, a lot of the mental health crisis.
I mean, people can't cope with this change.
They're just not, it's not ingrained in them.
Yeah, you would think that with access to the world's information, you'd be able to solve every problem and that every problem would be solved as a result.
But just because we can, obviously, the test is shown, doesn't mean that we will.
Correct.
Yeah, I think this has been the most rapid advancement in the human consciousness
ever in the history of our species.
And it's all novel.
We don't know.
We make fun of the millennials,
the Zoomers, whatever they are,
but there's really nothing
to look back on.
There's no historical point of reference.
I hope what really happened
is that aliens showed up at Roswell
and then it was an accident
and they're like,
oh, crap.
Meet with the government
and they're like,
here's what we're going to do.
We're going to give you
rapid communications technology to bring your people up to speed. And they're like, oh, crap. Meet with the government. And they're like, here's what we're going to do. We're going to give you rapid communications technology to bring your people up to speed.
And they're like, all right.
And now the aliens are sitting back laughing as if they gave chickens, like, ultra weapons.
And they're just watching us be really dumb with it.
They're like, they're going to wipe themselves out with this data impropriety, you know, that they're doing.
People don't understand the algorithmic manipulation.
I don't know if it was Elon Musk that said this.
I think it was.
He said the current thing may actually be chosen by an algorithm.
So there are people who are like on the trends on Twitter being like, I like mustard ice cream.
And it's like a robot just decided to promote that one day.
And now you're marching in lockstep with it.
The algorithm is the new Holy Spirit of our world.
Exactly.
It's just touching things in different ways.
But what you were saying before about, you know,
how people aren't processing, you know,
all these new innovations, et cetera.
I mean, it's the same way of looking at it as, you know,
it's like you get a new toy and it's just like, you know,
a new gadget, a new car, and you're just obsessed with it.
You're just diving into it headfirst.
And that just becomes part of you.
That's your whole existence now.
And I feel like we're seeing that on a generational scale.
It's just this obsession, this tech focus.
But everything that we've designed, whether it's all this access to knowledge, we're not
becoming smarter.
We're not solving problems.
All this access to social networks, communication, we're becoming more and more disconnected,
more atomized.
It's all having this counter effect.
I think one of the issues
that we're facing clearly
is that there's just too many people
and we're not guiding reproduction wisely.
So maybe the first thing we need to do
is maybe like a great reset
down to like 500 million people.
I don't know if that's the right marketing term.
Then we'll guide population reproduction.
What did the Guidestones say, Luke?
I tried to do it.
800,000?
No, no.
The Guidestones said guide reproduction wisely or something.
Oh, my God.
So that's the idea.
Right.
They know better.
Everyone knows better except us.
Well, the algorithm is producing reproduction digitally.
I like that you phrased that, that it's like the Holy Spirit.
The algorithm is our current. Is that what, that it's like the Holy Spirit. The algorithm is our current.
Is that what you said?
Yeah, the Holy Spirit.
Because imagine if someone owned God and they were able to control it and they knew what
it was doing, but no one else knew what it was doing.
And make everyone think and see one particular thing when they want them to see it.
You guys don't trust us.
And ban particular ideas against that particular thing that they want you to believe.
Social engineering.
That's God godlike power.
You know what would be crazy? You know how they've been trying to do this
augmented reality thing for a long time?
Like Google Glass was like a rudimentary
version where you'd look up to the right and there's a little screen
there. Now they've got the
Meta Pro Quest or whatever.
And like the idea is
they're like goggles and you'll see
the real world but it'll augment
it.
Imagine in the future, they tell everybody, you know, you can see through these glasses,
you'll see everything like normal.
And then you'll also see the augmented reality stuff.
But the augmented reality stuff is very easily discernible from real life, right?
The graphics aren't as good.
Until it's not. And then one day, everybody sees the same thing across the sky, an explosion, and they don't realize it's actually a trick in the augmented reality.
You see what I'm saying?
Or they don't want to take it off because they take the glasses off and everyone's fat, ugly, and miserable.
So they put it back on.
Everyone looks beautiful.
Well, what I'm saying is fake events happen where everyone thinks with my AR goggles, I choose what AR I see. So I'll load up my menu and I'll go like this, like this.
Okay, Facebook and then Twitter and then tweet, send.
And then all of a sudden, kaboom, explosion in the sky.
And they think it's reality, but it's actually augmented reality.
But everyone sees the same thing, reports seeing it, and then everyone assumes it really happened when it didn't.
In fact, yeah.
Yeah, I've been noticing a trend on Twitter the last couple of weeks where at the top
you get that for you big thing and it says video about fill in the blank was doctored,
experts say.
This video, recent video about White House correspondent was doctored.
Video was doctored.
Video was changed.
So like this is like in the last two weeks, I've noticed this probably like four times
or five, maybe four times that that the age of deepfake is
upon us. Whether or not that's going to be AR
or just actual video that we watch on TV,
we don't even know. Or they'll accuse real things of being
deepfakes, which are real.
There was a story in the press that
Ron DeSantis met with Clarence Thomas
the day before the Dobbs decision came
down, ending Roe v. Wade. The real
story was that a year and a day
before, the media runs this story
without fact-checking it. And now the guy who wrote a secondary, it was a secondary source
reporting. So emails get released by a nonprofit. Raw story writes a story. Independent copies raw
story. Independent then realize, oops, we got it wrong. Guy says, I'm so embarrassed to take it
down. But think about this. The defamation of lying about somebody in an election is the cost of
doing business for these people if if you can win a governor governorship for four years is it not
worth the 50 million dollar defamation lawsuit and man these races cost more than that so you can
these we're getting to the point where fetterman's campaign's been just making things up imagine how
dark it's going to get.
When I was on Rogan's show,
this was like a year ago,
he asked me how I felt about deepfakes,
and I said, I'm not,
I don't think it's going to get that crazy.
I think it won't be,
and now I'm like, I was way wrong.
They're going to make a deepfake,
and it's going to be a grainy video of Ron DeSantis' supporters
to make it look like it's a cell phone
so it's easily faked,
and he's going to say something not ridiculous just kind of bad right the the the real effect
of stuff is not going to be Rhonda Sands coming out and screaming the n-word it's going to be
him saying it's going to be him saying something like look when it comes to COVID there's only
so much you can do so yeah are people going to die a lot of people are going to die I can't be
bothered with it all the time something like that where it's like believable and there's there's going
to be a wild west period as this tech rapidly develops that there's no legal precedent for
the defamation like you're saying so how are they going to treat these deep fakes what are the
repercussions going to be and it's going to be an insane period of time before the law catches up
if the law and the regulatory system ever catches up. It may never. These things are going to appear in court.
And then a video, not only that, a real video will appear in court.
And someone will be like, I filmed this guy punching a dog.
And he'll say, deep fake.
I don't believe it.
And then, dude, it's this simple.
A grand deep fake defense.
Call a lawyer.
You get your lawyer.
Your lawyer finds an expert.
And they say, your lawyer calls 10 experts.
Here's the video is
it a deep fake nope that's real okay expert number two is a deep fake no it's real number three no
four five finally expert number 10 it looks like a deep fake to me excellent you're hired would you
like to appear at this trial then he shows up and says to the jury i am a video expert i've been
working for 20 years i watched the video it does not seem genuine now this dude who actually
committed a crime could could maybe even get off just because the technology exists so when we have
experts in court are we should we have to say how many experts were interviewed and then how many
experts were chosen no of the 12 experts this the one that we chose says this the other nine or 11
said this that's not how it works i think we need more transparency in our legal system especially
with software code and apparently with experts end quote if we're going to be putting people on
the stand what if what if okay let's try to how about another scenario a crazy uh extremist makes
a deep fake of you punching a dog you get arrested you go to an expert and he goes you're you're in
crossland from Tim Kidd?
I don't want to be involved.
It's real.
It's real.
And they go through nine experts who all say the same thing like, dude, I don't want to be targeted.
It's a real video.
And then finally they get one guy who goes, I don't care what show you're on, Ian.
I watched the video.
I did the analysis.
It's fake.
And then you go to trial and they say, but let's pull up the nine other experts.
And they all go, oh, it's a real video.
Please, please don't burn my house down.
It's a real video.
What's sad about all this is we could talk about, you know, the theoretical implications of these deepfake technology. But, you know, you have this media class that will publish defamatory hit pieces without even using deepfakes.
They'll just claim you said something, you believe something, you are something, white supremacist, racist, Nazi, whatever.
And they don't need a deepfake.
They'll just print it, put in the headline, and that's what you are.
You're branded.
And there's no recourse, which goes back to the state of our defamation laws.
And it's only going to get worse with a deep fake.
It's only going to get worse, but it's pretty bad right now.
And we have no solution.
Cultural reinforcement, man.
I think about like, I feel like the only solution is to get people to come together to believe
in the things I believe in, in order to survive this crazy ride.
There's no national consensus ever coming back anytime soon.
And, you know, I don't know.
How do you do it without manipulating people?
Let's jump to this next story.
Let's get to Elon Musk here.
So from TimCast.com,
Twitter accounts will not be reinstated until new content moderation council convenes,
says Elon Musk.
He says Twitter will be forming a content moderation council
with widely
diverse viewpoints. No major content decisions or account reinstatements will happen before that
council convenes. Let me just break this down for all you guys. First, it is a victory, a tremendous
victory that Elon Musk has purchased Twitter. I'm glad to see that something good is happening. But Elon, like us, is making a mistake.
Earlier on in the show, in a previous segment for those that are just tuning in,
for those just tuning in, we mentioned that the person who attacked Paul Pelosi at the Pelosi
House was a leftist. We also went on to mention that he does have a bunch of weird conspiracies,
is a nudist, and is probably just a crazy person. Meanwhile, leftists are trying to claim he's a MAGA guy because he denied the election and posted Q stuff. At any moment,
in every moment, the left will outright just be like, it's MAGA. Marjorie Taylor Greene said,
we won't forget the companies that stopped donating because of 2020. And a prominent
Twitter leftist said, this is a direct threat and it's why Pelosi got attacked,
blah, blah, blah. They go to the extreme end. Elon Musk is telling us right now he's going to
invite them to sit down and discuss how to handle censorship. You see, before Elon bought Twitter,
he said the appropriate solution should be where there's a compromise and everyone's a little
unhappy. But he doesn't realize the conservatives, the independents, libertarians, post liberals have
already compromised, saying outright, we accept the left will say naughty words. We just want to
be able to express our opinions. The left then says, we want you banned and we can do whatever
we want. There's no compromise there because you've got one side that already compromised
and the left saying to everything or nothing. If Elon Musk is going to form a moderation council
and invite the woke left in to go, but my feelings are hurt when he said it was ugly,
then he's going to go, all right, well, let's give the left a little bit of what they want.
The only problem that is literally what Vijaya Gade and Jack Dorsey did. Jack Dorsey and Vijaya were basically running Twitter like, OK, conservatives don't care
that leftists are on the platform.
They won't leave.
So we don't have to do anything for them.
They're content.
But the left will leave unless we ban some conservatives.
Here's the compromise.
We don't ban all of the conservatives, only a few to make the left think we're doing something
and then the right won't
leave because we're not banning everybody. That's the problem. This will not work. It's a bad move.
And Elon needs to go in now independently of his own volition and release the political prisoners.
And he needs to accept he is responsible for this. And there's no diverse viewpoint that's
going to solve the problem. Amen. And I hope this is just fluff to cover, you know, his tracks from a PR perspective for
any next moves.
But he has to come out guns blazing, you know, open up the prison cells, release everybody
and just overwhelm the left with all the reforms and changes he's going to make.
Because if you start doing it piecemeal, they're going to just attack it piecemeal and they're
going to divide and conquer.
And it's going to be this messy, drawn out situation with this ridiculous, fluffy sounding council, which honestly sounds no
different than things they've done in the past. It's exactly what they already were doing.
Yeah. If you're going to build a council, don't build a council of people to decide who gets
banned and who gets unbanned. Get a council of people to decide how to build a system
so that the bannings and unbannings can happen judiciously.
Right. Nothing good comes out of committee.
Tell us about Mines.
The Mines jury system is legitimate.
I think this is the way to go.
So what happens is if you're on Mines and your stuff gets flagged, someone in the administrative team will be like, okay, they got flagged, they got banned.
And then if you don't agree, you appeal it.
It goes to people that have opted in on Mines to the jury system, like up to 12 or more random people.
Get the content.
It says, does this violate the terms of service?
Then they have an opportunity to swipe right or swipe left if they're on their phone or whatever say yes or no
if it violates it or if it doesn't so if enough people say yeah it violates it you're still banned
you can appeal it maybe twice you can three times uh if you say no it doesn't violate it you get a
majority of people then it's unbanned and then if it gets flagged again goes back through the process
now if someone if a jury
member is saying it doesn't violate the terms but it does and they keep repeatedly doing that on
things that keep coming up and they keep getting it wrong they eventually lose their ability to be
on the jury that shouldn't happen i disagree because i think people will abuse it what they'll
do is they'll vote how they want it i want it to be on the site but that's not what i'm asking i'm
asking if it violates the terms jury nullification nullification is exactly, I think this shouldn't be illegal and I won't convict someone for it.
Doesn't, well, something needs to exist.
And hold on.
The reason why I think that's a bad move, a bad element of it, is that let's say the platform becomes dominated by really awful people who want to see free speech banned.
Wikipedia.
And there's a handful, exactly, and a handful of people are saying, this didn't break the rules.
Why are you saying it did and then all of a sudden mines comes down and says look the majority has repeat repeatedly said you're wrong so we're removing you well then what would happen is
that must be allowed i think what would happen is an admin at mines would review if if like a bunch
of people are saying it's not violating it's not but it is and then you're like okay who are all
these accounts that keep saying it's not violating why do they keep saying it's not what it is you have to review them both it sounds like it's
violating when it doesn't it sounds good on paper but this is how wikipedia devolved and you have
this this organized ideologically driven minority maybe on that platform that decides the edits
that approves the edits that controls the entire editing hierarchy it will be taken over fabian
style but the argument is because it's a random selection of jurors every time that you can't no there's no um cabal right but you can't punish a
juror for giving their honest thoughts you can down rank their no their ability if they're not
accurate no this needs to be not absolutely not i think so it's a private company make it a
dictatorship imagine imagine if we said in public in a legitimate criminal trial, you're like, this guy is not guilty.
And like, well, everyone else said he was.
You must be wrong.
We're not going to let you be on a jury trial anymore.
That is insane.
Well, this is you have a civic duty.
And right.
If it's illegal, it's off.
It's off the site.
I mean, if it's an illegal thing and someone's saying it's legal, then I don't think they should be a juror.
I understand that.
But that means you have to review every single person,
whether they said it was good or bad.
Or you can algorithmically calculate people that are inaccurate
and then just over time downrank the viability.
It's the Holy Spirit again.
But the algorithm would be public.
It would be like a free software algorithm that you can go on GitHub and look at.
So the facts matter here when it comes to this particular case,
and there's a lot of other things happening behind the scenes.
There's a lot of things happening with a coordinated media push right now to try to get advertisers off of Twitter. But Elon Musk just 20 minutes ago tweeted that
there have been no changes to the Twitter content moderation policies. He also tweeted today that,
quote, comedy is now legal on Twitter. Michaela Peterson responded to him and asked, hey,
can you get my father back on the Peterson responded to him and asked, Hey, can you get
my father back on the platform? And he said specifically, quote, anyone suspended for minor
and dubious reasons will be freed from Twitter jail. That's a direct comment from Elon Musk on
his official Twitter account. Now, let's factor this in. A lot of people have been banned on
Twitter. A crap ton of them. Would you want to be the one solely responsible looking at that list
saying okay okay okay no this guy did something bad here going through all the history here i
wouldn't want that responsibility i wouldn't want that job this is why he's announcing some kind of
counsel how will he handle it it's going to be interesting i just hope he's not being swayed by
the washington post that by the way uh again, I talked about this yesterday. Bill Gates literally is putting money
into organizations to launch attacks on Twitter right now. Pressure. He has been doing this and
has been planning this for months. The Washington Post came out today and is telling people how to
turn off their advertisements on their settings on Twitter so they could sabotage Twitter. And
of course, the money that they get from advertisers. GM just announced that they're temporary suspending ads on Twitter. What will happen moving forwards? Well,
I'm still optimistic. His tweets are saying he's going to make sure that he's going to
undelete the censored people on social media, including people like Jordan Peterson.
I'm hopeful. I think he's going to do it, but I think it's going to take time.
He needs to hold the line. He needs to realize it's going to be tough in the beginning,
obviously, with the advertisers, the pressure campaigns, etc. But they have nowhere else to
go from an advertising perspective. They're going to come back. This was never going to be a
financially lucrative deal, at least not for the long run. Twitter was never making money,
so the advertising is just sort of putting off some of the financial losses that the company's
suffering. But at the end of the financial losses that the company is suffering.
But at the end of the day, he needs to come out.
He needs to be bold.
He needs to unban these people immediately.
And if he dilly-dallies, if he dithers, they're going to smell blood.
They're going to jump on it and they're going to come after him.
And his reputation is on the line because he – this was a massive ordeal that he undertook.
And I think I agree with everyone here.
It's going to be better no matter what on the margins.
But if he backs off and he doesn't fulfill it, I mean, he's going to look like a total fool.
I mean, he's a total fool.
He owns the company. It's private.
He has full dictatorial powers effectively to set these standards.
He could, you know, devolve some power to some stupid council.
But at the end of the day, he should come out, set the standards, set the maxim from everything to follow.
And if they follow it, good.
And if they don't follow it
well he has other problems or at least i hope you're wrong but but i i kind of agree with you
that he should at least do the basic ones jordan peterson project veritas that's going to be a
babble on b i mean just those basics alone are clear obvious you don't need a committee and a
commission to to figure out that that was absolutely wrong for those people to be censored
right and the people down the hierarchy you these minor accounts, these no-name people
that were banned for a variety of reasons, that's going to be more complex. And it's probably going
to take a lot of time and logistics. Fine. We all understand that. But it takes all five minutes,
like you said, to look at Jordan Peterson and say, OK, bring him back on.
Elon crossed the Rubicon. He declared war on the cathedral. They've run in panic, and he's taken Rome.
It is now his empire.
He needs to just accept what he's done and make the changes he wants to make.
I don't understand why he would not immediately reinstate the Babylon Bee.
Everyone knows he did this because of the Babylon Bee.
The Babylon Bee did literally nothing wrong. He said
comedy is allowed once again. The first thing he could have done, and if I was Elon, I'd take my
phone. I'd press record. I'd walk in the front doors of Twitter. I'd look at the camera and go,
hey, guys, hey, who works here? Unban the Babylon Bee. I'm filming. Get it done now. I'm counting.
I'm glad you made the Caesarian reference because Caesar came into Rome and was forgiving and,
you know, gave everyone a second chance. And then Brutus, you know, stabbed him in the back and the rest of the Senate. So he cannot go into Rome and take the Caesarian approach that he's going to,
you know, love his enemies and give everyone a second chance. All the optimates and the
and the senators and the rest of the Twitter, Twitterati elite. He needs to come in with an
iron fist and crack some skulls and just make it clear that this is the new law
of the land and we're not backing down and they will they will back off but at the same time if
he does something he's going to have thousands of people come to him what about me what about me can
you do me can you do me can you do me and that's a lot of pressure from a lot of powerful people
that were censored incorrectly and it's only he's only one guy he needs 15 minutes in between you
know what i mean i think you come into Rome, you immediately lay out your new constitution and then give
the power to the people to govern themselves.
We don't even need to go to Rome.
You have a protocol with jury system, constitutional values.
Unban anyone that didn't violate U.S. law wherever the headquarters, San Francisco is
the headquarters, and it doesn't violate California state law, then unban right from the beginning.
Then you decide if you need to ban them
for terms of service.
Also, all the terms of service are going to change now.
Well, yeah, the misgendering policy's got to go.
Not every word, but it's up to Elon.
He can be as creative as he wants
with the terms of service.
It's this simple.
Check out the mines terms, Elon.
Make it a protocol.
Give yourself access to the real estate.
Make the real estate sellable,
the advertising real estate,
as a commodity or
asset on a public protocol. And then you effectively give yourself, you make it worth
substantially more money. You remove moderation requirements from you and say, if someone, look,
here's the way I describe it. If Coca-Cola buys a billboard in Times Square, and then I go stand
in front of it, holding up a sign with a picture of something really awful.
Is Coca-Cola going to call up their ad buyer and be like, hey, or their ad seller and be like, well, why is there a man standing in front of my sign saying naughty words?
They're going to be like, because he's standing on a public street.
Next question.
Why are you wasting my time?
We should not be looking at Twitter in this way.
If you want to advertise where the conversation is happening, you recognize people say things you don't like, period. They make it a protocol. They make it interoperable
with other platforms. They remove their ability to moderate anything and say law enforcement can
handle it. And also with the advertising, I mean, this was a dying platform. This is mostly used by
journalists, certain niches of society. It's not this mass public platform like an Instagram or even a TikTok.
It is a platform for different degrees of elites essentially, talking to other elites and then a few people liking it.
The advertisers will come when he creates – when he turns it back into a platform that people want to be on, people want to engage in, have engaging people. And it's not this controlled, manipulated, bot infested platform, which it is now, which
is and he bought it extremely overvalued.
So he turns it back to what it should be.
The advertisers will return and any political disagreements they have in the interim will
be, you know, things of the past.
I actually posted an old video of Elon Musk talking about Twitter, making fun of I posted
this on my shorts on my YouTube channel,
which people could watch.
I definitely recommend you watch that
because Elon Musk talked about his plans for Twitter.
He talked about how it's absolutely crazy
that it took Twitter one year
to work on something like an edit button.
He then went on and was like,
you know, we should make this like WeChat.
And WeChat is something that's not really popular
here in the United States,
but in places like China,
everyone depends on WeChat for virtually almost every aspect of their life and existence.
You do everything on WeChat.
And this is the type of vision that he has that he might transform and change Twitter to X.
And again, Twitter made some horrible, absolutely idiotic decisions when it came to their business.
They ruined Periscope. They ruined Vine. They had the TikTok before TikTok even existed. Twitter made some horrible, absolutely idiotic decisions when it came to their business.
They ruined Periscope.
They ruined Vine.
They had the TikTok before TikTok even existed.
TikTok right now is dominating all the social media platforms with so many users, with so much engagement, with so much just short-term gratification for a lot of individuals, whether
it's good or bad.
That's debatable.
But YouTube and, excuse me, Twitter had that live stream ability had that tiktok ability and they just threw it in the
trash they deprecated everything it's been a history of deprecating features refusing to
release features it's it's interesting than the last year with twitter blue with the edit button
with a whole litany of other features it's all come out of you know the woodworks because up
until then it was just a series of they had fleets for a while i remember they got rid of fleets that was a little it was they literally had vine they had
the opportunity to be the number one marketplace video service right now they had they could have
been it and arguably if you make a comparison to facebook if facebook had not acquired instagram
facebook would be done by now i mean facebook its platform is is dying it's instagram that keeps it
afloat had twitter successfully kept vine they would be in a totally different position today.
Absolutely.
I want to pull up this story from TimCast.com.
Advertisers threaten boycott if Trump reinstated Twitter.
Clients from ad agency that spend $60 billion per year in media spending will pause all ad purchases if Trump's account returns.
Why?
Why?
Are advertisers saying we don't want trump on the platform what do these things have to do
with each other other than these are esg companies it's politically motivated elon musk needs to
recognize this yeah these are but it seems like he's he's bowing to it well these are what you
call impact investors and they're willing to throw money at political causes they want to see someone
other than donald trump be elected the nice thing about owning this company and making it private
is that he doesn't when you have a public company yeah you have not only do you have shareholders
then you even a public a public private company that you have that you co-own with someone else
like in the case of mines bill and john ran it together they each owned half it was hard to get
stuff done because if bill wanted to do something it had to go through john and. And if John didn't want to do it, it didn't happen.
So I imagine at Twitter, there's like six guys all with veto power.
Impossible.
Like you said, it took a year to get an edit button through.
Now you got one owner.
He says, yes, it gets done.
Right.
It's the power of the dictator.
There's also a global corporate collusion with bankers happening under the name of the
ESG.
And I think this has a lot to do with it because if they can have companies
literally jumping
whenever the bankers want them to jump,
singing whenever the bankers want them to sing,
doing whatever the bankers want them to do
under this social credit score,
this corporate social credit score,
this is another element of it
that we have to understand here.
This is a coordinated effort
by a lot of very powerful people,
Bill Gates being one of them,
putting all of his money
into institutions saying,
hey, hurt Twitter now.
Twitter is a threat against me, my empire, my money.
Right now, people are gonna be able to talk
and find out all the lies that I told them.
People are gonna find out
all the horrible things I did to them.
Red alert right now, we need to shut Twitter down,
get all the advertisers.
And again, Elon Musk has actually addressed this.
He talked about doing a subscriber-based model. he talked about changing the financial aspects of of twitter so so he sees
this this attack coming as well but we got to understand here there's very powerful people
right now that are going to be looking at twitter as a direct threat against their hegemony on the
narrative on the conversation on the truth that's the brutus metaphor of what you're saying earlier
the longer elon holds this hot potato the more of a target he becomes.
So he needs to release it. Come out forceful, make these radical changes and overwhelm them,
which is what the left does when they're in power. You can make a comparison when Trump was in his
office for the first four years. He dithered, he dallied. He could have done a lot more things
until he waited to the last few months, which was sad. But you make a good point from previously. It really goes back to if you build it, they will come. They could have this hissy fit.
They can pull out their money. But if he's truly going to turn this into a new revolutionary
platform, move it away from this advertiser beholden structure into something more,
we chat better tech, better features, and the masses come back to Twitter,
what are they going to do they're
not going to be able to hold off for long because they're missing a massive market uh for for
potential advertising you know supply so they're not going to turn that down someone's super it's
me super chatted elon needs to charge five dollars to tweet at trump only make the rest ad free one
trillion a year profit all the trump reply guys it's like well if you tweet at trump it's five
dollars and then they would just fund the whole,
the whole platform.
That's it.
That's how you monetize.
There you go.
It's as simple as that.
Huh?
I asked Bill Altman if he wanted to federate minds with Twitter,
parlor,
rumble,
and truth social.
And he was like,
hell yeah,
except not the Fediverse because of the limitations.
And it was just a vague interaction we had,
but he pointed at Noster,
which I mentioned at the beginning of the show.
N O S T R.
It's a,
it's a protocol.
Let's see. And you can go to noster it's on github.com slash noster dash protocol uh so i think what's going to happen is all these networks are going to be able to interoperate like
you'll be able to see truth social content while you're logged in because the problem with the
fediverse is it doesn't have a universal login it's going to aggregate everything yeah yeah
fediverse you'd have to log into like Mastodon
to view everything that's federated.
And then if Mastodon wants you banned,
you can't view anything anymore
because your Mastodon account.
We can't write off all tech
because all tech definitely pushed Twitter
and obviously is pushing Elon.
It's led to a lot of the tech features
they've begun to release.
So it's done its job.
I hope Elon's, you know,
revolution of Twitter
doesn't totally, you know,
negate everything that you guys are building
and others are building. I think we can take it offline too like we could have
mesh networks locally with this software with this twitter and mines all this stuff we're like i can
tweet at you if you're nearby without having any kind of internet just on our devices
look i think elon needs to communicate much more and much more quickly because
i do not see any logic or reason why certain accounts like the Babylon Bee
haven't been reinstated.
More importantly, James Lindsay.
He got banned for calling someone a groomer who was, you know,
Literally a groomer.
He's not insulting LGBTQ people.
He's literally targeting, he was calling out somebody
who was grooming kids.
He was banned for that.
There are many things that Elon could have walked in
and snapped his fingers.
If his complaint is that it took him a year to make an edit button, then it's like, okay, I get it. We're on day one and a half or whatever. But that's why communication is
important. Cat Turd tweeted, Elon's taken over, nothing's changed. Elon said, I'll be digging
into this more today. Then he comes out and says, we won't do anything, anything until our committee happens. Are you kidding? Okay, dude, look, I feel like it's, it's, if Elon doesn't immediately just
pull out the lightning bolt of Zeus and throw it, he's going to keep sitting down,
having conversations like Dorsey. I'll put it this way. The old trope about the president
getting elected and, you know, he's on the campaign trail
saying, I'm going to end the wars and I'm going to get the price of gas down. Then he gets into
office. The CIA, the FBI, DHS, they all slam all these folders in his desk and say, you can't.
And here's why. And then instead of pulling a Trump where Trump goes, excuse me, excuse me,
I don't know. I don't care. Get this out of here. I'm doing what I want. We're getting the troops
out. And then they all lost their mind and tried to get rid of him. Elon's going in there
and I worry. I don't know. It's only been day one. But he may go in and pull a traditional
presidential trope in that he goes, I'm going to unban everybody and I'm going to do these things.
He sits down and they go, OK, now this advertiser does 300 million per year. They said that if Trump
is on the platform, they won't advertise anymore. If you don't have that money, we
lose this core of the company. And then this
company says we don't like Milo. They complained.
If you have him on, and then Elon's going to go,
okay, so
if I have these 10 people banned, we keep all
this money and the platform keeps working.
All right, well, I guess I'll compromise there.
I had a conversation with a tech CEO
a long time ago of a big
social media platform.
And they told me, it's a guy, and he said, Tim, I don't want to ban these people.
But if I don't ban this guy, everyone loses the platform.
So what am I supposed to do?
And I was like, I don't know, grow a pair of balls?
Call the bluff of these companies?
Look them in the eye and say, if you don't want to advertise on the platform that everyone is on and you want to make yourself irrelevant, by all means, Will Wheaton is hanging out who knows where these days.
He's not on Twitter or on Mastodon, but I'm sure he's looking for someone to talk to.
You can go hang out with them.
If you want to be in our house where the party's at, then you accept there are people here who say things you don't like.
If Elon doesn't just assert that immediately, we're spiraling back into the same problem.
The fact that he's saying we need a diverse board to decide this, I'm all like, there we go again.
I heard the same thing from Dorsey three years ago, and Elon's saying the same thing again.
I said it was a bad move.
I stand by it.
And I like how he's obviously being very responsive in the Twitter replies, but was the same and he went on rogan he did all the song and dance and
nothing changed so he's going to repeat history and it's going to lead to the down the continued
downfall of twitter and again it goes back to trump but what do you have to lose but this is
why the the twitter execs cashed out right they were like all right it's all yours buddy yeah
enjoy i have hope well we'll see what different because let time tell yeah it's still early on here when jack was involved it was a public company and he
didn't have control of it at that point anymore he was just kind of saying what he wanted but
elon has full control at this point i mean which means there's no fbi and the things like that
right legal he can't do illegal things obviously but he's got radical rains and he's got his foot
on the gas the stakes are so high we have to to hold his feet to the fire, to the coals.
Just that the stakes can be higher.
This is a civilizational type of thing we're dealing with.
This is the public square.
This is the means of communication, the way to disseminate any kind of idea.
So it's not just any other business.
It's not a retail operation.
It's not a car company.
It really goes beyond that.
Maybe not on the financial side, but certainly on the
civilizational side.
Here's what's going to happen.
He's convening this diverse viewpoint moderation committee.
Ecumenical council.
And here's what's going to happen.
If he does have progressives on it, they're going to say, do not reinstate Alex Jones.
He's a violent, authoritarian, fascist bigot.
Elon is going to have to tell them to screw off,
or he's going to have to listen to them. Either way, what's the point of doing the council?
If you got to tell them to screw off anyway, because you know what their answer is going to be,
then just unban Jones. If you are not going to, then you're just listening to the mob.
There's no middle ground here. There's no magical world where the people who have been, who burned down cities in the
George Floyd rise and then lie about it in the media, there's no world where they're
like peacefully negotiating with you.
Because the left governs in the private sector and the public sector by their ideology and
their ideology will dictate their actions.
And then you have, you know, good intention, people like Elon coming into and they're like,
you know, we'll make a committee, we'll make a council.
Let's let everyone hear it out.
And it doesn't go anywhere.
I'll take the win for now.
I don't want to be, you know, total negative Nancy on this one.
It's been good.
I'm just genuinely confused as to why he didn't unban the Babylon Bee immediately.
It would have been big press.
It would have been good.
I can imagine a few things.
The reason why Twitter bans the people they do is because advertisers demand it.
That's it.
Because the left is good at organizing.
They don't just send complaints themselves.
They complained to advertisers and say, we will come for you.
These advertisers know.
Yeah, they mean it.
They'll come with firebombs, bricks, signs.
They'll cause us damage. They'll smash the windows out. Let me tell you, if you own a storefront in Portland, or I'll say Berkeley, all the Berkeley storefronts have anti-Trump or they did
and woke signs. Why? If in the middle of the night someone throws a brick, what can you do?
Call the police? You know what the police are going to say? They're going to say, sorry it happened to you. Let us know if anything else
happens. See ya. What are they going to do? They're going to launch a big investigation to hunt down
a person who ran by with a rock? Never going to happen. But you're going to have to pay thousands
of dollars or however much to fix that gigantic window. So then everyone just says, it's easier
just to put the sign up and mind my own business. And this is what happens with big corporations.
Let's say you sell Sodipop.
And then you get 50 emails from Antifa, from BLM,
and they say, we can cause you so much damage,
you will regret crossing us.
And they go, I don't care about this.
Just fine, we'll stop advertising on Twitter.
It doesn't make enough money for us anyway.
Then Elon, or whoever's at Twitter, sees that come in.
Look, we're getting tons of complaints about Miloo we don't want to advertise on your platform anymore and they go look either we ban
milo or we lose the whole platform and then they do and that's the chain of events unless someone
is willing to say it's either this or nothing it will not change and i mean that didn't happen yet
if it does he deserves to be called out i'm a little bit more optimistic we're still early on sure but
let time tell time what do you mean we we it's been seven months we all know the babylon b is
unfairly locked out locked locked out of their accounts there's an election next month so
there's an election in a week and elon musk finally secures the platform and if anything he could do
is say my friends the babylon b shouldn't have been banned. I already know that's true.
I am going to remove this lock.
As for other people, I don't know.
I am going to need some time to work through this.
I'd accept that.
And the counter argument to what you just stated before is that Twitter has been thoroughly
wokefied for years, and it's an unprofitable, dying platform.
It's been continuously making bad mistakes on the tech front.
It's losing users. Most of its users are bots. They've tried the fully woke model,
and it's not working from a financial perspective. So if he's going to be intimidated
by the supposed financial repercussions of allowing more free speech on banning the Babylon Bee,
I think the Babylon Bee is back. Go on Twitter right now. I think they're back.
He's watching.
I think the Babylon Bee is back right now.
Are they tweeting?
I haven't seen any tweets.
I just looked at it a minute ago
and it's just like...
They're not back.
It was locked.
So they weren't like...
The account wasn't erased
or anything.
It was just locked
until they removed
the tweet question.
They can't get access
to their account
to view or post tweets
until they remove
the offensive tweet
on Rachel Levine.
So this is what keeps happening. Which is like literally like this tactic that they do i get regret take it back take it back now you've been a bad little struggle i get dozens
of messages every day from people who are like tim trump is back and i'm like oh because they assume
that trump's account shouldn't exist it's like like, no, on Instagram, he can't post anything on Facebook.
His account is there.
People think because they can see it, it means they're back.
So I hear this nonstop every single time.
I look, I made my point.
Elon waiting on this.
I know it's been a day.
So, OK, I'll calm down a little bit.
We'll see.
We'll see over the week if we're going to get any any any um meaningful changes i i just i i really need i think the
i don't understand why why we didn't see anything the move is to do it all at once and you say in
a sweeping move all accounts that have been banned or or locked that didn't violate u.s state law
are hereby reinstated agreed yeah and he And he could do that today, right now.
And probably take the weekend to do it, and then on Monday morning.
Or he'll do it at 420 on Sunday.
And again, it makes it so much harder for them to respond.
The concern is that big advertisers like this one are saying,
we'll pull our ads.
And if there's no money coming in, there's no Twitter.
But unless someone breaks the addiction cycle of this broken psychotic machine
it will keep happening.
What's Twitter Blue?
You know how much money
they're pulling in
from Twitter Blue?
It's like three bucks a month
but here's the issue.
You want to know why
Antifa is allowed
to organize illegal activity
on the platform
and get away with it?
Because Twitter
is scared of them.
Because the big advertisers
are scared of them.
That's why they don't get banned
because they're the one
Look, I say it all the time.
Does Twitter headquarters pre-Elon, were they ever scared that, like, Dave Rubin is
going to lead a bunch of classic liberals with pitchforks and torches to their doorstep?
No.
Are they concerned a bunch of black-masked lunatic psychopaths with bricks and molotovs
and guns would?
Yeah, because they do.
So Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, every advertiser, they are scared to death that one day they'll
walk outside their building and some guy will hit him in the face with a brick and it's
not going to be a conservative.
So we can ban the conservatives because they won't do anything about it anyway.
But we better not cross Antifa and the extremist left.
It's still happening right now.
And you're presenting a broader political dilemma is that it's this asymmetrical political fight where the conservatives or the right wing are fighting with their hands tied behind their back.
And the left wing are bringing guns to a knife fight or not even to a fight at all.
And they're just playing to win.
They don't care about the substance.
They don't care about the style.
They don't care about anything else.
They're there for one thing, one thing only, power, power dynamics, and advancing their
ideology.
And they don't care about any of the niceties associated with, you know, councils, etc.
I would not be surprised.
Okay, look, it's a victory that Elon bought the platform.
We cracked the Louis 13th.
I know, I know, I know.
But I'm just, I'm eager to make sure this goes in the right direction.
And his announcement about some diverse viewpoint council sounds just like Jack Dorsey.
Just like Vijay Agade.
It sounds exactly like what they were saying.
Based on that, I wouldn't be surprised.
I'm not saying it's highly probable.
If come April, there is, you know, me sitting with Elon and Joe being like,
Elon, why won't you do this?
We had this Antifa person. And Elon's going to be like, you know, we're going in. And we're trying to make sure we're doing it fair. Blah, blah, like, Elon, why won't you do this? We had this Antifa person
and Elon's going to be like,
you know, we're going in
and we're trying to make sure
we're doing it fair, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I'm not saying it's highly probable.
I'm not saying I would bet on that.
I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised
based on wanting a diverse viewpoint
committee or whatever.
I'm like that right there was just like,
oh, that's more BS.
Start a crypto token.
Start a utility token, Elon,
a Twitter token.
What if he puts Doge on Twitter?
Yeah, use Doge and then you can pay users with doge coins so here's here's another strange
phenomenon we can talk about uh here's my social blade for my my twitter account look at me with
1,361,000 followers thank you for following me i i just tweet nonsense i've lost 5,000 so far this
month but that's up 22 and and probably because i've been you know i just tweet kind of stupid nonsense but uh today i gained 4 264 followers what about you luke you gained a bunch
of followers i i did and a whole bunch of engagement a whole bunch of likes that i never
had before i'm going to check right now and so probably maybe they have started with the lower
level accounts and they're working their way up and these are some of the well he's you know he
said he's not he didn't make any changes. Yeah, he said no changes have happened.
Luke, you gained 859.
I mean, you've been consistently gaining
a good amount of followers this past week, but
today you've gained more than double what you
gained yesterday. 859 followers.
So...
But hold on, and
check this out. Look at this.
The great purge has begun. Twitter
users report losing thousands of followers as Elon Musk formally takes over the platform
and sets to work on bot cleaning.
He says he hasn't changed.
It's, you know, like the content moderation.
But take a look at this.
Kate Smith says, wow, I lost a few hundred followers overnight.
Welcome to Twitter, Elon.
People are saying I lost followers.
One person with the Ukrainian flag in their profile.
I lost 50 followers.
Yeah, you know what I think? I said their profile. I lost 50 followers. Yeah,
you know what I think? I've said it before. I'll say it again. Twitter was propping up fake
accounts to make it look like the left was more prominent than they were because the right is
more prominent. And they were banning people on the right and shadow banning them to make it seem
like they were less prominent. They put their thumb on the scale. And this is so important when
you talk about politicians, you talk about their staff, you talk about the decisions that happen in Washington. They see Twitter as really what's the viewpoint of the
vast majority of people, their constituents, what's the public's view on things, but it's a
completely manipulated audience pool. I mean, if it was a congressional district, it'd be like a
D plus 70. It's not something that exists in the real world. And it's all about the perception
that they're creating, the illusion they're creating. And it's not just the likes, it's not something that exists in the real world and it's all about the perception that they're creating the illusion they're creating and it's not just the likes it's not just the follows
it's even the comments i mean you see those those memes that go around where it's all the same
comment that's being shared every time a major news cycle hits and i'm glad he's going after
and it's also noticeable it's these left-wing accounts claiming they're losing followers which
were bots a few weeks ago it was right-wing accounts claiming they lost followers who
were real people.
They're saying it's people quitting the platform.
In protest.
So what?
Is the 4,000 followers a bunch of conservatives joining the platform?
I don't believe it because Twitter recommends leftist accounts, not right-wing accounts.
First leftists, they'll never follow through on their threats to quit.
They never moved to Canada, for example.
So I doubt that they actually are quitting Twitter right now.
So it's certainly bots.
That was something he brought up.
And that was something that came up in the evaluation talks when they were first in talks to buy.
It was the bot issue.
I mean, that's a fundamental issue.
It could be that Elon immediately went after the bots.
First thing he did.
First task, yeah.
Yeah.
And so, you know, I'll say maybe I want to see some changes faster than he can go about it.
Maybe Elon is like, the bots got to go first.
And advertisers are on board with that if we want to go back to the finite,
because they want real, legitimate, clean metrics.
They don't want bots.
Or maybe just to investigate to see what was going on,
to see what the algorithm really was,
to see how it was being manipulated,
to see who was being punished for what.
I think there needs to be a long investigation
into what is essentially very
potentially very illegal activities with election interfering done by twitter so that that's a very
serious uh you know accusation but but only someone who just acquired a company is going to
be looking into that right now as we're speaking and we have to give him more credit i do agree
with you he's coming into a company where the workforce that exists is largely hostile.
I hate him.
Hates it. He needs to fire 70%. I think he could probably fire 90%. He is in a good position that he could bring over some loyal staff and support from Tesla, some of his engineers there, et cetera.
But it is going to take a period of time just from a logistical technical perspective to dig
into this and actually find out what's going on behind the scenes, how it can rectified how it can be and how do you undo guys guys he's not going to endear himself to the
employees after he just fired ligma johnson you know ligma johnson was asking for it though
ligma johnson is uh it was his on local news and a very serious person this is real this is really
his name yes i think it was like no like, no, it was two guys.
It was like Rahul Ligma
and Daniel Johnson.
Were they,
they got fired?
Is that a real story?
No, they're trolls.
They showed up to Twitter HQ
with boxes.
That is awesome.
You think he would have
fired Ligma Johnson?
I think they're going
to get hired.
They thought they got fired
automatically.
Turns out,
Ligma Johnson.
If you're looking for a job,
I mean, honestly,
if you're a free software developer
and you want to get involved,
keep your eyes on Twitter
because he's going to be hiring.
Or it could just be a community project. Firing. Either way, he's going to be hiring. Or it can just be a community project.
Fire him.
He's going to be firing.
He's going to be opening up a lot of positions.
But the thing is, I don't think Twitter needs, I don't know whether they have 5,000 employees.
I mean, if you're running a free software decentralized network, you need the world's community to be involved.
And you don't need to pay them.
There's so much dead weight there.
Can I show you this, guys?
Parag Agrawal's salary was $30.4 million in 2021.
Ned Segal was $18.9 million.
Vijaya was $17 million.
Sean Edgott, his compensation was unclear.
He was the one who had to be escorted out of the building, which is really interesting.
So, let us see.
The former COO, Sarah Personette, was handed $11.2 million as part of Musk's house clearance.
I want you to think about $30.4 million.
And I'd like to ask you, what do you do with that money?
What do you do with it?
I was going to say what they did for it.
No, I mean, he's working a full-time job, which is very, like, he runs Twitter.
I know, being the CEO, it's a very it's a it's a high level job
of a very large company it's just insane to me that these people like couldn't get an edit button
button done in a year but they were given 30 million dollars the pay wasn't based on the
merits or the financials or anything quantitative it was based on loyalty to the regime and the
regime's you know doctrine and what they were trying to push to this platform and the social engineering they wanted to use the platform for.
And they were, you know, only willing participants in that.
So they were paid handsomely for doing a job well done.
But it's not based on any, you know, basic profit or loss model of a traditional business.
It's based on loyalty to the regime.
And that's why this gentleman will be spending that $30 million somehow.
I have no idea, though. $30 million to not be able to get an edit button done in a year.
That's just it's it's incredible. I don't think people truly understand what 30 million dollars
means. He wouldn't be able to spend that if he tried. Wasn't there like a dozen real engineers?
I'm making the numbers up, but there was an extremely small number of real engineers.
And the entire structure of the workforce was like a reverse pyramid, where it was those 12 supporting this massive bloated, you know, pension scheme at Twitter effectively. And it was like these few engineers that were doing all the work and everything else was just, you know, corporate fluff and councils and committees and, you know, diversity leaders leaders whatever it is yeah yeah i don't think the hardware was the
was the majority of the people there are probably people that are like how do we handle the crowd
kind of people right trust and safety it's like so orwellian it's all like an extension of hr it's
all just these these positions that exist to perpetuate their own positions they're not
actually fundamentally doing any real work i will say like you said i don't know maybe there were incredible developers across the board there was a meme that came out that said uh
you know uh musk fires half of twitter replaces it with one hard-working indian engineer yeah
yeah that's basically what it is he could do the job of 3200 people right yep exactly that sounds
about right it's all emo pushing jobs you know they send an email they're going to circle back
and uh that that concludes the day. Alright, guys.
The thing about
the compensation that really gets
me is that I would
be willing to bet a
substantial sum myself
that you, the average viewer,
could do his job. Not kidding.
What knowledge
does he have where he was like, it was
mismanaged, it was managed so poorly the
company was struggling it was basically failing the this is just there there is an elite class
in this planet it's always been the case they do nothing they get everything but they think it's
unmerited in 2018 there were roughly 4 000 twitter employees three years later 2021 or four years
later i guess there were 75 someone so it went from 4,000
to 7,500.
Almost doubled the amount of employees.
Now, map the user growth, which I think if you factor out bots, I don't know what it
is, but it's probably stagnant, if not a downward trend, but at least if you factor out bots,
which may not be possible.
All right, let's find out.
Yeah, people are pointing out that Kanye's Twitter account is back. And Elon pointed out that's an automatic thing.
It has nothing to do with him.
Oh, it was like one of those seven-day things or whatever.
And so his account just turned back on or whatever.
Well, he should just take credit.
I just, you know, it really is shocking.
And it's unfortunate.
I would be willing to bet additionally that if I took that 30 million dollars in one year 30 and gave it to a random
viewer of this show they would build something more substantial more historical and better
than anything he did that's just i really can't stand silicon valley and and that machine crony
capitalist bs i just i i despise it much. It's an incentive structure for loyalty.
You keep these guys operating
against their own company's best
interests because they know the payout will be
greater than whatever else they could get through
normal channels. And I guess he got
$60 million to get fired.
What's his name? Parag?
He got $60 million?
I think. Someone want to fact check it real quick?
Well, in a way... I think his golden parachute was $60 million? I think. Someone want to fact check it real quick? Well, in a way, you know.
I think his golden parachute was $60 million.
I was wondering what Elon would do.
I'm glad that he gave them payouts.
I mean, I don't think you can ethically just say, like, goodbye.
Now everything that you were earning is set to zero.
But that's a lot of money, my man.
Ethically.
$60 million.
Let's see.
I got this.
The total value, they say in guardian
was 120 million dollars in golden parachutes do they break it down uh here we go what is it uh
no okay 8.4 tag or wall doesn't sound right this all goes back to the fed 34.8 million to
vajayagade why would she get more than the ceo that seems strange whatever she's been there
longer she's a woman well she's been there longer so maybe that's it but i just it's just so crazy
man i'm looking at the user growth the numbers from 2018 they had 335 million monthly active
users but then two years later they had 330 so i mean actually down five million so the staff went
up and the users went down that's right it's a great it's 5 million. So the staff went up and the users went down.
That's right.
It's a great setup.
The staff went from, yeah, went from 4,000 to 5,500 while the daily user rate didn't change.
It pays to be the thought police, you know.
When you're censoring speech, when you're going after people for political ideas and expression
and act like you're fighting the Germans during the 1930s. You've got to be paid a lot of money to play pretend for that long,
for that much, for that big of a circumstance.
For that crazy of an act.
Exactly.
And you've got to pay for private security if you're in Silicon Valley.
A lot of crazy people out there running around with hammers
and deranged individuals and people throwing poop at you.
Syringes.
People giving themselves the vaccine in the streets
all the time.
Yeah.
So.
I want to see Rumble's headquarters
because I'm thinking about
Twitter's HQ was very lavish.
Did you go tour at all?
Yeah, I got a tour
of the headquarters down.
Is it a small, like,
bachelor-style apartment?
There's no bathroom?
It's surreal
because it looks like
a cartel house. Like, right on the water. It's it it it's surreal because it looks like a cartel house like right on the
water it's like it's it's huge it's a beautiful place greeted you with like a scotch and a cigar
and he was like where's the lamborghini i'm like this looks like a scene out of scarface it really
does i'm like i'm like where where's the you know where's the rifle what's it that's better than a
modernist soulless building in silicon Valley with their cafeteria and all their little perks and their yoga room.
And it's not that big.
That's what I'm wondering.
How many floors?
Two floors.
Oh, see, that's modest.
We didn't have a huge – I mean, that is a massive amount of overhead.
Not that many rooms either.
You just don't need it.
Not with social media, man.
You don't need big buildings. It's all about servers and server placement, which ideally we'll have that stuff in orbit.
Because if we do take some sort of asteroid contact, we're going to need to preserve our data and our knowledge.
Yeah, but Ian, the problem is how do you dissipate the heat in outer space on big data centers?
You can't do it.
You could hit it with laser, like laser cooling.
Laser cooling?
Like if you hit something with a
laser it should move heat that way moved heat where off along with the laser like the laser
will carry the heat you mean i see i see what you're saying so the laser goes through it and
then actually transfers the energy out correct if we could do direct thermal uh conversion into
light and then beam it away that would work that's that would be crazy. I like where your head's at. I'm glad you're my friend.
That's a cool idea.
That's pretty cool.
I mean, for right now,
yeah, actually, that's interesting,
but the servers are going to generate heat.
We can try and recapture heat,
but it's got to go somewhere
because the ambient heat we can't control perfectly.
The efficiency wouldn't be there.
Yeah, yeah.
We should just write things on stone.
Just go back.
That'll work.
The servers operate by a guy reading the code
and typing in the ones and zeros manually. Yeah, yeah see yeah in 27 years you'll get this tweet out chris
pavlovsky ceo of rumble and elon have been i don't know if they the two of them directly have been in
talks but chris reached out to him on twitter about a month ago and was like hey you want to
get involved because i'm a big fan and elon was like all right and then now i hear they're working
on like because chris is a server guy. Elon's a satellite guy.
Yeah, Twitter needs a video component.
Twitter needs something that could either be a TikTok or another Periscope or another Vine.
They need that.
They don't have that.
What if Elon does succeed with X and Twitter becomes a place where you've got a wallet, uses crypto.
You can post videos.
You can write stories.
You can make tweets.
Like, it really becomes what Mark Zuckerberg was hoping Facebook would become.
The American WeChat.
And then I'm going to be critical of it
and skeptical of it because of how powerful
and all-encompassing it will be.
But as of right now, I'm optimistic
when I see Bill Gates and other establishment figures
attacking him.
But when it becomes too mainstream,
that's when I'm going to have questions.
Well, no one thought that MySpace was going to fail or even Snapchat.
And now it looks like Facebook, the platform itself, is pretty much going nowhere.
So who knows?
We'll get a revitalization story out of Twitter.
If I was a billionaire, I would do what I would call the Parag Agrawal Challenge.
And I would give $30 million to a random person for an investment project.
Obviously, there's rules.
You don't just get the money.
It would be an investment, not income.
It would be we create a company.
We put $30 million in it.
Go.
And then we would see at the end of one year what we have.
I think it would be hilarious because, like,
you could take your average, like, contractor,
and they'd be like, oh, I built a bunch of houses.
I'm like, wow, houses.
That's really amazing. Parag, what did you do in one year well i was running twitter and we could get an edit
button done i was like uh-huh i'm sure he was doing something you know what i mean but based
on that project veritas video where the guy is like i work four hours a week or something like
that i really doubt any of them are doing anything wow yeah you want people that are committed to 40
plus hours a week at least because it's about organization at that left you have 30 million like i could pay you 30 million
but if you're only working eight hours a week and there's no other employees well you've seen those
viral tiktok videos right the girl walking around like here's my day in the office i got lunch yoga
it's really stressful red wine on tap right so here's here's the secret. Investors ask people. They say, ask you a question.
If tomorrow you woke up and you had a million dollars in the bank account, cash, clean,
ready to use, it was a legitimate deposit, what would you do?
What would you do, Gavin?
I would just buy property.
You'd buy property?
Yeah, rentals.
It's not a terrible answer.
They're not making any more land.
What about you, Ian?
What would you do?
I think I would buy a house at this moment.
Yeah.
It depends.
At this interest rate?
Are you crazy?
Although I hear the housing market's about to dip.
Cash.
It's like cash purchase.
What would you do if you woke up and you had a million dollars just in cash in your bank?
Buy a whole bunch of employees and expand operations.
Buy employees?
Like slaves?
No.
But that's thinking outside the box.
Oh, you would expand a few. No,. But that's thinking outside the box.
I said the box. Your guys'
answer would never get you an investment. Oh yeah, I'm not looking for an investment. Oh, you want it? Oh, yeah, well.
It doesn't matter if you think you're
getting investment or not. The question
I mean, I could pay four people a hundred grand.
Okay, but here's what people are
looking for. They're looking for someone who
naturally wants to expand operations, not
someone who needs to be told to do it. So if said i'd buy a house they go that's really cool nice
meeting you and if they went to a homeless guy and he goes like i'd love to start a company now
just we're gonna make bird houses and i'm gonna hire 100 people and have the biggest birdhouse
back you're hired here we'll give you the money if they give you 72 000 a month for server space
on aws while i'm paying 60 grand for nine employees, three of which will be working for the six others. Two people will be responding, you know, that kind of thing.
And they're like, oh God, yes, plug it in. But you need to understand this, that most people
will be like, oh, well, I didn't know you meant if I was going to do a business. I don't. I mean,
what's your first priority? And you guys clearly said property. Not a bad answer because property
is an investment. Most people say like, I go to Hawaii, I take my family out. Those people will never see a dime from an investor. So even with
what we're doing here at Timcast, the biggest challenge is personnel, is finding people who
want to work on something, not people who want a job. People who want a job tend to just, you know,
quiet, quit, do the bare minimum. So when you're trying to invest in someone to give them a
substantial amount of money, you want to go to someone and say, if you, quiet, quit, do the bare minimum. So when you're trying to invest in someone to give them a substantial amount of money,
you want to go to someone and say, if you had a million dollars, what would you do?
It's like, oh, man, you know, I've always wanted to launch my own comic book distribution
network.
And if I just had the capital, we'd get it going.
But I've already got the books.
I just need to figure out how to get to these.
You're hired.
Here's the money.
Have fun.
Good luck.
What do you find is the bulk of cost when you're running operations?
Labor.
Always labor.
Humans cost money.
Specifically, in-house labor, out-of-house labor. It's all operations? Labor. Always labor. Humans cost money. Specifically,
in-house labor? Out-of-house labor?
It's all the same. Labor's labor.
People are the most expensive thing.
By far. Yeah.
Do you end up spending 20%,
15% of the cost
on outsourced labor, like
legal, stuff like that, marketing,
things like that? What do you mean?
I just wonder, just in general, if you spend it mostly on in-house employees or if you of course of course most of
it's an in-house i mean we have a lot of contractors and then we have legal and then we have construction
and then we have external marketing and pr there's a lot of stuff that we don't do in-house because
it doesn't make sense to do and uh most of the cost is like an employee working for the company
you prefer to do that in-house?
It's not so much prefer as just like – it's more like if there's a wavy field.
Let's say this table was wavy and you poured water on it.
The water would pool in the lowest point.
You know what I mean?
It's not like I'm saying we should do contract labor or something.
It's like that's how it's done.
I'm not going to hire a lawyer to work for this company.
You know what I mean?
I'm going to contract a legal – a law firm who can handle it.
Specialization.
Yeah, yeah.
Like the people we need to hire, the people who need to be here all the time, specifically like a video producer, an audio engineer.
But like Vice had in-house counsel.
They had a room with like two or three lawyers in it.
They were really, really big.
Maybe we'll get to that point, you know. But, you know, yeah.
Anyway, my point ultimately about the cash stuff is
I look at a lot of the people in Silicon Valley
and a lot of the people at these companies
and they should not be getting paid
what they're getting paid
because they don't care about the product.
They don't care about the growth.
They don't care about the mission.
They don't believe in merit.
They believe in like, I deserve to be here
and then they do nothing.
And then it just burns to the ground.
It's a broader problem in corporate America
where you see these compensation packages
are so out of whack with what they actually deliver.
And they make excuses,
and they talk about the scale of things, et cetera.
But at the end of the day,
it still is very much out of whack
when you look at what you mentioned before,
the growth in terms of staff and employees
and the decrease in actual users.
I mean mean there's
like a 45 increase in staff with no nominal growth with a negative here's a here's here's a secret if
you want to be rich go hang out with rich people that's it goodbye i'll tell you why the in like
the palisades in brentwood in california and la you know these places oh yeah beautiful these are
the places where if you're just friends with one of these wealthy Hollywood
elites, you can be like, you know, I sell this fancy lotion.
It's $100 a bottle.
They'll say, oh, I'd love some.
And then it's Juergens in a little bottle.
And this is the way it works.
I've known people who are like, oh, I make jewelry.
And I'm like, how much do you make per year?
It's only a couple hundred thousand per year.
And I'm like, for making jewelry, yeah.
But I have a very select clientele of Hollywood elite.
It's like, okay, because you know rich, Hamptons too, because you're friends with rich people and they want to buy from you, they just have money and give it to you.
You're rich.
There you go.
There's a whole social class between the Hamptons and Hollywood, whatever, that feed off of that.
Usually, they fall into the wine mom category in terms of demographics.
It's unfortunate when people turn to alcohol when they get bored with so much money.
They beat the game and they just start getting drunk every night.
The only difference, on average, in my opinion, maybe not necessarily, but there is a fine line between someone with a carpet, a sheet thrown on the ground with a bunch of jewelry strewn about it.
And they're sitting there smiling at you saying $1 necklaces.
And some yoga wine aunt who is making $300,000 a year selling necklaces to select clientele in the Palisades.
It's just who you know.
A $4 thousand dollar haircut because
you're worth it exactly and then they're able to write that off on their taxes this is all the fed
this i don't think you can write off haircuts on your taxes thank god depending on your industry
yeah entertainment so like hollywood can and this is the craziest thing if you're if you're an actor
in hollywood all that cosmetic stuff is a business expense and i mean to be honest it kind of is
legitimate yeah you need to look a certain way and whatever.
But I have hung out with people who have told me their jobs are just like, oh, you know,
I sell this, that, or otherwise.
And I'm like, and you make that much?
You make half a million dollars selling?
They're like, well, of course.
I get 20% commission on all the products.
And my clients are all very wealthy.
And I'm like...
It's like a royal court for like
these new aristocrats you got the jester you got a few people exactly luke you mentioned that you
were you would expand operations are you talking about for we are change yeah and then uh just
looking at solutions i think um providing food that's not poisoned um is is a good big industry
that i think has a lot of potential to also get into that I would want to get into
that I'm kind of looking into getting into and helping people as much as I can.
So like selling like health product, health food?
Maybe not even just health food, maybe just normal regular food, you know, without seed oil,
without high fructose corn syrup, seed oils, and all the you know, forever chemicals and
microplastics and other things that just destroy humanity.
But it has a green label on it
and it says it's healthy.
What are you trying to tell me?
No, you're wrong.
You've been propagandized.
Let's put little styrofoam cubes
in a plastic wrap
and then put the ingredients list on it
and then people wouldn't know the difference anyway.
You'd see a guy eating it.
Some fat guy.
It's like Rice it's like it's like rice krispies yeah it's petro didn't they do an experiment where they made a rice krispie with like sawdust just a small
amount of sawdust and wanted to see if people could tell and they couldn't it's basically
equivalent what they do to most have you looked at parmesan cheese from the supermarket oh yeah
one of the ingredients is cellulose yeah it's it might as well be cardboard right it's indigestible plant matter well yeah you and they
they talk about oh it's it's like we have a society where you're constantly having to work
out just to be the bare minimum in terms of healthy you go to europe you look back in time
you know the caloric intake hasn't gone up it's it's the quality of food we're putting in is trash
and then we wonder why we've never been more unhealthy.
So we talked about this the other day.
I went on.
We had Seth Weathers on.
He said, I need to eat more protein.
I said, I ate like 100 grams in one day.
He said, you need 150.
And I was like, do I?
And then I checked a government website, and it said 70 grams.
But it said I should be eating 400 to 500 carbs.
And then I was just thinking to myself, I couldn't eat that many carbs if I tried.
Well, they also said eggs were bad.
They said butter was bad.
Meat was bad.
Meat was bad.
It's like, it's all nonsense.
Whatever the government says, don't read it.
Do what tradition tells you.
What tradition says, eat a lot of meat, eggs, butter.
Let me tell you.
You know those outright bars we have?
Yeah.
Those have 24 grams of carbs in it.
So I have to eat like, what, 20 of them to get the 500 carbs?
I could barely eat one of those protein bars.
Granted, there's protein in them.
But if I ate 20 of them, that's too much protein, I guess.
20 of them.
That would be insane.
They want you fat, childless, and on a really manipulated Twitter.
That's their vision.
Yeah.
Yep.
And so I've been eating. So I probably do need more protein, to be honest. I skate their vision. Yeah, yep. And so I've been eating,
so I probably do need more protein,
to be honest.
I skate a lot, exercise a lot.
But it's just insane that
that's what people are told to eat.
The whole system just seems
completely broken to me.
And we waste so much time
talking about health and exercise
instead of putting it
to other productive things.
It's like we're so focused
on the bare minimum,
not being an obese, morbidly obese person. You know, these are things a hundred
years ago, you didn't really have to deal with. And I'm not saying they had to go out and hunt
or gather and, you know, hunt their food. We had a balance, you know, as recently as the 1970s,
you could look at the charts, it backs it up, but we just have so much time and energy wasted now
into health food and just returning to a normalcy. Like you said, it's not even health food.
It's just normal food.
Normal food that my grandma used to eat that we don't get to eat right now because of a number of different factors.
Monocropping is another horrible element.
But more importantly, you don't even need to look at the science or the data.
Look at the photos.
Look at the people a couple decades ago.
Look at the people now.
It's terrifying. Whenever you go to a beach or a public park or a theme park, you look around, and if you
start paying attention, you're like, holy freaking cow, there is a biological warfare
being committed on everyone.
Mostly in this country, though.
Because you go to other countries, it's not nearly as bad.
You see that photo from the 50s where everyone's just fit looking?
Yeah.
So weird.
They didn't go to gyms they didn't they didn't count their calories now disney is doing that
fat chick film right where it's like you can be morbidly obese but it's okay it's sort of it feels
like we're dancing around a renaissance but if not for the the overweight the obesity crisis
it's all these distractions because we have to relearn all these basic things we used to know
and be able to do innately you know just, just be healthy. Now it's like, this is an active thing
we have to do to be healthy.
They call it organic food.
Organic means carbon-based.
All food is organic.
But they created a special word
for what food is supposed to be.
That's so weird.
I love it.
It's like, organic food means like food.
So we should actually, we should change this.
Chemical food and food.
So it's like, I got milk.
Is it chemical milk or is it milk
altered it's chemical well language is altered that's all language it's language warfare i mean
even look at schools it's like public school it's a state school organic i like that you point out
that organic means like carbon based so think about think about what they're saying though
when it's not organic they're basically saying it's like a petrochemical or something yeah
like it's not well that's what we cook with We cook with oils that used to be used for mechanical and industrial purposes.
They just slightly twisted them up.
There was a whole incident that happened, I think, in Spain, Madrid in the 80s or 70s where they all got some toxic oil syndrome because the food that they were cooking with was like this canola oil that was basically meant for like industrial oil.
You know what gutter oil is?
Oh, in China?
Yeah, where they scoop it.
Out of the sewers, and then they filter it out,
boil it, and cook with it,
and then you eat it on the street?
That's pretty much what most of our food is being made.
That's everything you have in a restaurant anyway,
in the deep fryer.
That's exactly it.
They don't change that deep fryer
every time they cook something,
and it's not schools.
It's indoctrination centers.
Thank you.
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Jeremiah Dobler says,
the Paul Pelosi incident
is yet another example of Democrats
not knowing what they let out of the bag,
catering to their progressive wing.
Look, the guy was a Green Party dude,
but he also was, you know know he posted q stuff he was a
conspiracy guy he had a pride flag you know i it is what it is yeah you let a summer of violence
happen that it's gonna affect everyone in the world yep raymond g stanley jr says tim pool says
i don't know why anyone follows me on twitter as he melts the fragile adult baby minds of cult
leftists screeching about a red verify badge.
Bro, this is going to be fun and we are here for it.
Yeah, I tweeted.
So I tweeted that Elon should make a new verification badge
except it shows that you're a fascist and it's red.
Then I tweeted again when he bought it.
The same exact thing, but I said,
except it shows that you're a communist and it's red
and you can't remove it by choice.
And they're like losing their minds.
They're like, he wants to bash us when we do the bashings.
They should review a lot of the verification, the people that are verified and the whole verification process.
Because that's another, you know, blatant tool for manipulation.
Yeah.
A verification originally was anyone could apply for it.
Right.
And it was just you submit your ID and they say, okay, you are, you say you are, you're good.
And then they decided to make it an endorsement.
And it was funny because they were like, we don't see it as an endorsement.
And then they literally, they took James O'Keefe's away.
It's like, they wouldn't give one to Julian Assange.
It's like, dude.
And it's violating 230.
I mean, they're editorializing.
I mean, it's another example of it.
They're allowed to editorialize under 230.
They're not violating it.
Oh, true.
But they wouldn't, but then don't they lose protections?
Nope.
No.
That's what conservatives want it to be.
Sorry.
Apologies.
But that's funny.
You're like, section 230 basically says they can do whatever they want without liability.
It's insane.
So repealing it's bad.
It should just say, if you engage in moderation of any kind, you lose immunity.
You take an editorial stance.
Right.
All right.
Let's read some more.
St. Miles says, anyone else notice the U.S. Capitol Police were on the scene?
That's right.
They were.
Not Danny McBride says, Ian, will you be my dad?
Sure.
I mean, metaphorically, yeah, man.
Metaphorically?
Let's do it together.
Pay it forward.
And then you be someone else's dad.
Okay.
GoneFall says, you guys should play audio clip donations, but only members can.
And those audio clips have to be reviewed before being shown on live.
We've thought about a lot of things like that, but it's like a different show.
It'd be like a call-in show almost.
So we're making plans for expanding and doing something like that, which would be fun. I think call-in show would be really fun to do but we'll figure it out maybe maybe
we'll do like fridays yeah fun we'll have yeah we'll have like from 9 to 9 30 we'll do like
pre-screened call-ins like cool like recorded messages and then we'll play them and then we'll
respond to them like you said it's a good idea just because you can't really do a live you get
someone on the air and then they're like i I'm a businessman. Then you press play, and then you start saying a bunch of crazy things.
Yeah, totally.
Okay, okay.
Where are we at?
Where are we at?
Oh, man.
Doc Holliday says, for once, someone else was hammered in the Pelosi's house.
Ooh, too soon.
Too soon.
That is clever, though.
It is clever.
But, hey, man, this guy got seriously hurt.
That's horrifying.
That scares me. Much healing love, Paul. Yeah is clever. But, hey, man, this guy got seriously hurt. That's horrifying. That scares me.
Much healing love, Paul.
Yeah, man.
Not okay.
You don't got to like somebody to be like, I hope the dude is okay.
That's how I feel about John Fetterman, man.
I almost started crying the other night.
I just want to be okay right now.
Oh, bro.
When I was watching that debate, it was hurting watching that man.
Yeah.
It's so sad.
And now, here we go.
The left is saying
fetterman's up the right saying oz is up and i'm like whatever dude vote don't vote for the guy who
can't talk oz is bad for a while i don't like him it's he's not that bad it's just it's kind of
cringe we could have done better but just fetterman is just his it's not there man got a rest yeah
dude it's sad recover hudson bodry says long time listener
first live stream in super chatter listen to tim cast on spotify every day at work huge question
when is raymond g stanley jr coming on the show good question he certainly bought and paid his
way here already several times around we'll have to you know maybe some people suggested we do like
a fan episode and we bring on a handful of people and that are
like the core fans that are super chatting all the time stuff i think it's a good idea we'll
figure something out we're also big fans of raymond g stanley jr because he's super chats
all the time and he has good super chats and we like reading them yeah oh man some of these there's
a lot of a lot of these jokes you about getting hammered jeffrey grajic says the hammer was paul pelosi's
hammer the guy took away from pelosi yes right i think that's i think that's what that's what i
heard interesting he grabbed the hammer and the guy got up from and started hitting him oh my gosh
yeah it's crazy dude pina shea's helicopter tour saying speaker's house on guard it is pretty sus
just saying i don't disagree all right amos moses says when are
you having your fellow shiraki shiraki on you know mr west mr fresh by himself he's so impressed
did you even see the test you got d's mf rosie perez good morning i have no idea what that means
it's a line from his tracks from what from one of his tracks i forgot which one now whose tracks
yay kanye west oh kanye should we have kanye on that's the question uh yes um i just don't have From his tracks. From what? From one of his tracks. I forget which one now. Whose tracks? Yay. Kanye West. Oh, Kanye.
Should we have Kanye on?
That's the question.
Kanye.
Yes.
I just don't have any contact for Kanye West.
Kanye, I'd love to talk to you about stuff.
That'd be fantastic.
I would love to have him on the show.
But I've reached out to a couple people.
No response.
It's like, how do you get in touch with Kanye West?
You know what I mean?
I don't know.
Kanye, call me?
I have no idea. Kanye, call me?
I have no idea.
I've tweeted at Elon Musk several times.
He responds to some people.
It'd be great to have Elon on the show. What's the email if Kanye would want to reach out to you?
Which booking?
Is it like a booking email?
No.
I don't know, man.
That's probably why.
Have your people call my people or whatever yeah
he'd rejudge it if he wants he knows how to do it so i i think it'd be awesome to have elon on yeah
i mean kanye elon too yeah right now but for right now kanye is the guy to talk to and i and i'm and
i'm not you know i'm not super interested in actually talking to him about his tweets or
whatever because i'm like okay
okay we get it like it's been talked about a lot i'd actually be interested in talking to him about
business yeah and uh you know he mentioned that he's a billionaire but they never call him a
billionaire they call him a rapper now he's now he's saying he lost two billion dollars overnight
i'm interested to hear about his business like and and i'm sure a lot of people want to hear
that stuff too but the politics of a lot of it would be interesting to talk about i like what he does what he's doing with schools
yeah reinventing the education system yeah yep okay let's grab some more super a lot a lot of
hammer jokes a lot of hammer jokes that's right they drink a lot yeah they certainly do all right
all right terry Boyd says,
OMG, I am a 62-year-old nudist,
longtime avid follower and listener of TimCast
and a conservative.
Please do not associate nudists with lunatics.
Fair point, fair point.
How does it work being a nudist?
How often are you nude?
I gotta know.
I'd imagine all the time.
Wow.
But like, don't you want to be warm?
That's what I'm saying.
Like Ian's wearing a coat and a scarf.
Yeah, and I feel great.
Yeah.
It doesn't seem like a sustainable lifestyle.
And, you know, what if, like, you're going out and you're worried about, I don't know,
brigands and bandits slashing you, so you have to wear thick leathers as you carry your
wares from town to town?
Brambles and the like.
How do they go on dates?
How do they do dates?
It's a lot of questions.
Yeah.
James Dorpinghaus says, Jordan Peterson said said the earth's population would peak at nine billion people and
decline from there also free speech is back on twitter love y'all well it's actually not you
know it's funny because elon was like comedy is allowed again but then he said but i didn't change
any rules it's like okay so it's not but um nine billion what do we got it's not. But 9 billion? I wonder where he got that number. It's already declining.
I wonder where he...
Is he saying that's the cap?
The scientific models were saying that it's going to be going up from 7 billion to 9 billion
and then naturally going down.
Why?
But now with such...
I forgot the explanation to it, but that's what all the graphs were predicting.
But now with a depopulation agenda, I think that number is not going to be reached.
Nine million is not.
Nine billion.
Nine billion, sorry.
I've seen those and my thought process is
regardless of...
That basically means people don't have kids.
So it's like at a certain point,
people don't have kids.
Why?
And then what happens if people aren't having kids?
Just some people are having kids?
I don't know.
It sounds weird.
And who gets to choose?
And you need to consider it's not just like everyone stops having kids.
It's for cultural reasons, the loss of children will be centered in certain areas.
So it may actually be that in urban centers, population collapses.
But in rural areas, they're more likely to grow, which makes sense considering everything we've seen already. And if those models are correct, the population expansion would
primarily be in Africa, where population growth is still substantially higher than in other parts of
the world. And that's the history of human civilization. The cities collapse first,
then the hill people and the country people come in and rebuild it from the ashes.
They're saying the Pew Research Center is saying mainly because people are going to be having less children yeah and this is according to their research but they
never say is it because they want to have less children or they can't have more children for
financial economic or other reasons yeah simulation 115 says tim if you do 3 p.m solo live streams on
fridays why don't you invite a single guest through video call to discuss the topic also
guest idea shad brooks he is an aussie creator that is building a Star Wars alternative.
Doing guests is difficult.
And even if I, so I did a live stream today instead of my normal recorded segment.
And it was because the news was rapidly changing.
It was initially reported Twitter employees were fired.
Then I started recording.
And then like a few minutes in, news we were hoaxed it's
a fake story and so like i'll just start a live stream but uh the segment's supposed to be just
discussing you know monologuing through the news doing a guest thing would be very similar to this
and it would be hard to coordinate and so i don't know but i might actually do uh fridays on
youtube.com slash timcast 3 p.m live for like 30 to 40 minutes because it's a lot easier
and honestly it's like easier work
were you doing super chats?
yeah
that's awesome
was it fun talking to the crowd and everything?
yeah but I only did a few super chats
because the goal is to like talk about everything
for a half an hour
and then be done
for the podcast on iTunes and Spotify
for the Tim Pool Daily Show
so that's about two podcasts
there's Tim Cast IRL Conversations
and Tim Pool Daily Show Monologuing I found that one. There's Timcast IRL Conversations and Tim Pool Daily Show Monologue.
I found that one of the things about social media
and working with a live audience
is that if you allow yourself to get derailed by the audience
and start responding with the audience,
the whole show just becomes about that
instead of the message that you're intending to,
which is why they're there in the first place
is for your message.
That's why I hold super chats till the end
so that we can do our thing.
And then on Friday,
I've done two of them now with the Roe v. Wade being overturned and then the Elon Musk stuff was just rapidly changing.
So I might do Friday live streams just because Friday is a week news day as it is.
People want to go out and do stuff.
They want to work.
They don't want to be at work.
They don't want to be listening to the politics.
They want to go out and party like Friday nights.
That's what happens.
Okay, where are we at? A lot of people saying drunk drunk drunk drunk drunk drunk okay drunk drunk drunk jerry murphy says i'm an amateur stand-up comic and was
wondering if you are looking to hire anyone that may help write comedy skits or possibly write
humorous news articles yes but um it's it's it's a bottleneck hiring is a bottleneck it's very
difficult to do.
You got to get stuff online, get your comedy out there so that it can be seen by people
that work with Tim or that know Tim.
And then they'll be like, Tim, look at this.
And if he likes it, he'll be like, get that person out here.
Yeah.
Carter made a video.
Carter Banks, who does all our music.
He made a video being like, hey, I make music.
Hire me.
And then like six months later, we were like, hey, look at this.
And then I emailed him like, you want a job? And a job and he was like oh wow that was a long time
ago and then we hired him yeah he's fantastic he's he's amazing yeah a lot of people are like hey just
let me do this and i'm like i don't know if you can or will i don't even know who you are i can't
i don't have time to look into you but if you want to work with me or tim or anyone else show me what
you got so show me what you can do do it or do it by yourself and then you know
naturally yeah we'll find it but but it's it's still not easy because it's like right now we're
looking for cast castle stuff because we want to uh get cast castle rolling um we want we want to
you know carve out the edges what's the what's the soft what's the word i'm what phrase i'm
trying to think of i can't like it all we want to make the show better there you round it out yeah round it out
rounding out the show rounding out the show i'm looking for like graphic artists and like video
me makers and i and i contact people i'm like hey are you available for hire a lot of them are like
no so all right bobcat says we've already seen leaked uh faked videos used in court remember
the rittenhouse trial and the AI rendering or the editing software?
That's right. That was crazy.
They were like, we use an algorithm to enhance
the video. It's true. It's like, wow, dude,
it's not.
TJ Raymond says, Fetterman had a rally
the day after the debate. He yelled, Oz
supported pardons for January 6th.
Officers died that day. An outright
lie, infuriating. That's right.
And they know they're lying because who cares?
They want power.
What do you do?
They just lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.
Charlie says Rittenhouse was almost convicted with a deepfake drone video because the prosecutor compressed a video that backed up Kyle's story.
Yeah.
And we saw his folder showing he had the software and stuff.
It was crazy.
Crazy corruption, man. It was crazy.
Crazy corruption, man.
Jeez, dude.
I don't know what to say.
Should have been disbarred.
They never investigated him over that stuff.
They should have.
Got him on the stand and asked him, like, we're using this editing software.
Why did you have it?
It's a crazy story, dude.
Twisted Ninja says, remember in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial when the DA binger deliberately tried showing evidence on an iPad because the zoom showed what he wanted and got an expert to say interpolation doesn't change the video.
They are evil.
Yep.
And it does.
It has to fill in the gaps when you zoom in so a computer algorithm generates what they think is there.
You can't add pixels.
All right.
All right. All right.
Henry back to places.
Instead of ads, I would pay you three to five bucks a month for a blue check.
I mean, you get extra features when you're verified.
The edit, for instance.
Oh, that's for blue.
That's for blue.
Yeah. Yeah.
Verification allows you to look at other verified posts specifically or something.
I don't know.
It's very low level features.
I know. It's really. Are you level features i know it's really are you
verified no it's really easy to get verified guys all you got to do is get hired by a major
international corporation that has connections with twitter's hq who will make a phone call to
the people they know there and tell them to verify you and then you will be that's how i got verified
oh that sounds easy though yeah okay good when uh when before i worked advice there were people
asking twitter like why wasn't i
verified like activists were saying hey tim pool is in these magazines he's in these shows he's
featured in these news articles everyone's highlighting his work every time he covers
big stories why isn't he being verified and twitter never responded the point the activists
were making is that i was not a corporate individual. I was independent, but I was at like trials and protests
and the media was all using my footage.
That's cause for verification
so that people know,
hey, this is a guy that people know
is a journalist who produces his content
and it's being featured widely.
We should let people know that this is,
you know, who he says he is.
I got hired by Vice and they went,
oh, well, yeah, here, give me a second.
Got on the phone and then they were like, oh, you're good.
Verified.
That's how it works.
That's right.
Not about what you know, it's who you know.
That's what they would say in the entertainment industry.
It's true.
It's always true.
Sakharin says, unban everyone on Twitter and release a statement that all have been given a second chance.
Start fresh.
Fresh.
Yeah.
You know, maybe.
Rusty Sheckelford says,
y'all should have the United Utah Party candidate
Jay McFarland on the show.
Could be pretty wild
with him being a Liz Cheney apologist and all.
Oof.
She's a Democrat though.
You know.
Alexandra Rose says,
hey Tim, will the rooster image be available as merch?
Maybe a shirt, sticker or flag.
It is.
Go to Timcast.com.
Click store and you will see.
Stand your ground rooster.
Roberto Jr.
There's posters.
There's shirts.
There's little flags.
And we're going to sell them and we're going to fly the flag.
And I like it because roosters are great.
And it's my rooster, Roberto Jr jr who uh i raised here at uh at the cat's castle unlike roberto who was purchased from a farm now
we love roberto okay but he's off at cocktown okay he's in charge over there and his son roberto
jr we actually hatched along with maggie and bernie and then uh we got they jumped around
the room and they were all small, pooping everywhere.
It was hilarious.
And now he's a big man, protecting a big flock.
So proud of him.
It's funny how they thought Roberto was a lady.
We got a bunch of hens.
It turned out one of them was a man,
and then from there came the rest.
That's right. And then my brother went and bought four Jersey Giants.
One of them turned out to be a boy,
because they try to cull them,
but they don't always get it right.
So now we have a Jersey Giant rooster, which is going to be nuts because they're huge.
Very big.
Yeah, but the biggest rooster I think ever was a Brahma, like our good friend Sarah Evenberg, who is one of the chickens.
And he was like three and a half feet tall.
Like, looks like a raptor.
It's crazy.
It's a massive thing with these huge legs.
Did you look it up?
The biggest Bra biggest rooster.
King of all poultry, the giant.
Yeah, but hey, man, I'll say it again.
The noble rooster.
If there is a predator coming towards the flock, the rooster will make a sound.
The hens will run and he'll charge full speed at the predator knowing he will die.
But if it means the girls get to run away and survive, he will do it.
Isn't one of the French national symbols a rooster?
Yes, it is.
And maybe that's someone super chatted.
I don't know where it is. It said that the national bird was almost the rooster.
And the turkey.
Ben Franklin wanted the turkey,
but they were all like,
no, we're not that humble, Ben.
Let's do something more noble.
I don't like turkeys.
They're weird looking and they make stupid sounds
yeah but when you look in their eyes
no chickens are funny
turkeys freak me out they're like aliens
with a weird thing on their face
I think it's because they can eviscerate you
but they don't
they have great plumage
a lot of people haven't seen wild turkeys
they don't look like the cartoon turkeys
so you'll see the turkeys outside and then they puff up and spread their butt feathers
or whatever and then look like that picture.
But then sometimes they compress.
Right.
And it's like, oh, look at that.
Yeah.
The ladies look compressed and they can fly too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Turkeys fly.
That's awesome.
I saw, we saw it.
We were driving down the road near Antietam and a flock of turkeys launched in the air
and flew away.
A flock of turkeys.
They can't fly too far, but they can fly.
They flew up and then flew into a tree somewhere.
Ryan Ball says, if the only thing Elon does is change Twitter's color from blue to pink,
I'd be happy.
Watching the left lose their minds over something so meaningless would be priceless.
Agreed.
I agree.
Justine Jardine says, I want to be there when Trump's Twitter account is reactivated and unbeknownst to him, his phone makes a Twitter notification sound.
Can you imagine the look on his face? Not to mention the temptation.
Trump will have to be on Twitter. Will he come back? He has to. That's just it. Has he publicly
proclaimed he wouldn't come back? Yeah, he did.
Yep.
I think a federation might be a better focus to get truth social and Twitter to be interoperable.
Trump is a wild card.
You never know what he's going to do.
Literally.
That's a fair point.
I mean, he has to be on Twitter, but he might be like, no, no, I won't do it.
It's good for him to be on Twitter.
It's a good feedback loop for him, and it keeps him grounded.
All right.
He's grounded.
Grounded.
It's just relative.
D.D. Darius says, if Elon Musk unbanned the political, the media will call it election meddling.
Also, I have a book done, Blood Herring, and two on the way for a series.
Let's discuss publishing perhaps but uh
we're currently jammed up we have a book coming out the tales from the inverted world book is
coming out soon we're excited for that would have liked to have gotten it out for halloween but it
is what it is ghosts of the civil war is the book and uh you can watch the full show season two is on timcast.com become a member it is shane cashman went down to uh georgia
and he started investigating ghost stories and the lost confederate gold and it's a wild
gonzo journalism hunter s thompson meets the x-files really really cool stuff witches
ufos conspiracies death threats threats. Someone threatened to kill him
because they don't want
people to know where the gold went.
When the surrender was happening
at Appomattox,
Appomattox,
way off!
The gold was stored in a chest.
They raided it and took it and fled with it.
Something like that.
Look at me. I don't know what I'm talking about.
You can read the story and you'll figure it out
because Shane did a good journalism there.
All right.
Synthetic Greed says,
maybe the meetings is either he's trying to limit
the amount of leftists that will leave
or by the end, he will set in stone how to moderate.
Some people pointed out that the diverse moderation council
is basically him saying to bring conservatives in, which makes sense.
He wouldn't need to add leftists to a company that's overwhelmingly leftist.
He needs to hire independents, libertarians, conservatives.
But what do you do?
Because if he hires a couple conservative guys, the libertarians are going to be like, come on, dude.
It's like, how do you – I don't know, man.
All right, All right.
All right.
Let's see.
Evan Suarez has congrats, Tim, on enabling violence on Paul Pelosi.
The guy was QAnon and a Trumpy.
Probably listen to you, Tim.
Thanks for your free money.
He was he was registered with the Green Party.
He voted Green Party just because he's anti-government.
Doesn't make him inherently right or whatever. But if he's Green Party, that is a left position. If someone
is a Democrat and is complaining about Democrats and they're saying we want the Democratic Party
to be better, but we don't like it and they believe the government's corrupt, they're still
a Democrat. But we made that point because we believe in nuance. That's why we mentioned that
the guy was just kind of crazy and all over the place. And it's what we've seen from a lot of
these crazies. And it is what it is. It won't matter, though, because like you are
saying he was a QAnon Trumpy. That is what it is. And we put leftist because he was Green Party.
What are you going to do about it? All right. William Wallace Bauer, the Berkhoven, the third
solution for Elon is to use standing legal precedent from when Trump blocked the lady trolling him.
They ruled his tweets so important he couldn't block anyone.
God will save us regardless.
Yeah, you can do that and be like, we have to restore the public forum.
So, you know, we'll see.
Justin Mondesire says 30 million.
I support my family on more than more than 50K a year.
Most people probably do.
I think that's like the median wage.
That's the way I'm just saying, like, it is shocking to me when I see Trevor Ngo make $16 million.
It's just absolutely crazy.
That's money that just goes to him into his pocket.
And I'm like, what does he do with that?
$30 million, you could not spend.
Like, you could not reasonably spend it.
If you have that kind of money you're
probably just like you hired a company to manage your money for you that's you're at the point
where you start right you're like you go to schwab or something and you're like here's money i don't
know we figure it out you give me a 4.2 return on my investment but that don't i mean i'm not
your money marketer but i don't it's blackrock if you give money that you're giving money to
blackrock so be be aware start a company. You basically can buy anything you want whenever, wherever.
There is no service.
There's no service, like basic service that you cannot have.
And you don't even need to be that rich to get.
Like the most expensive hotels, you go to New York City.
We did a really cool party once in New York after an event.
And it was like, I think, 10 grand for this luxury suite to have like a bunch of people in it having dinner and stuff
ten thousand dollars it was like 35 40 people we had a bunch of food and drinks and it was an it
was for an event 10 grand very very expensive if you're making 16 million a year you're farting
that you don't even think twice like what do you do with that money that's it's just it's It's just crazy to me. Mostly, look, if you run a successful business and you work really,
really hard, oh, I get it. But if you're like a dude who can't get an edit button done in a year
on a failing company that somehow, it's mind-blowing to me. I'd rather the homeless guy
had the money. At least he might do something funny like make a pie machine or something or i don't know buy himself an infinity pool all right so lay cucumber lime says okay tim fine i got you
2022 remake of the old brewster's millions what was that it's like a dollar bet or something what
was brewster's millions i don't know brewster's millions it's yeah sounds familiar i don't know
what it is though it was it was a movie. It's a movie from 1985.
American comedy film directed by Walter Hill.
Stars Richard Pryor and John Candy.
All right, I'm sold.
What's it about?
It was like they made a bet or something.
Brewster's Millions. Something about a baseball.
Minor league baseball player must spend $30 million in 30 days
in order to inherit $300 million.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
He's not allowed to own any assets, destroy the money, gift it,
give it away.
The definition,
the description goes on.
Right up the alley.
Brewster's millions.
What would you do with it?
Yeah.
So you could spend the money
by buying property like crazy,
but then people don't understand
you got to manage the property.
He's also not allowed
to tell anyone about the deal.
Right.
It's 30 million in 1985. Yeah. That that's even crazy and and so one thing you could
do is you could uh if i mean if you can't own assets yeah no assets my recommendation go to
an ad agency and say i've got a 30 million dollar budget for the month and i want to spend it all
right now and they would say we got you because if you're looking at putting up billboards in
the entirety across the country you retain nothing from that and you can easily spend it all if you're hitting every
major market yep yeah the movie would fail today because you just put into facebook ads or something
that's a good point put it on twitter 30 million all anyone sees is your face everywhere but the
money's gone yeah maybe they maybe they make you spend it over time so you couldn't
get it all spent right away. I don't know.
They do put those throttles on a lot of
ad spending, particularly for political spending.
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