Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #653 Twitter Has RECORD Growth After Elon Takes Over, BANS Leftists w/Libby & Owen Cook

Episode Date: November 8, 2022

Tim, Luke, & Serge join Libby Emmons & Owen Cook to discuss Elon's announcement that twitter user growth is at an all time high, Ethan Klein being suspended from twitter, Elon telling his followers to vote republican, Katy Perry sharing that she voted for ex-republican Rick Caruso, the ominous blood moon coinciding with election day, and the strange phenomenon of how winning the lottery can ruin your life. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm seeing a lot of these high profile lefty accounts say that Twitter's over, that the party is done. Elon is panicking. Everything's falling apart and they're all jumping ship heading over to Mastodon or tribal social. And it's funny because, you know, Ron Perlman and a couple other actors were like, I'm leaving this platform. And then a day later, they're like, just popping back in to say, you know, Elon's a bad dude. They'll be back. Because Elon Musk, Twitter, they've announced record growth, 15 million new daily active users, some of the biggest the website's ever seen, if not the most growth in a month they've ever seen. And Elon Musk is reinvigorating the platform. People all of a sudden want to be back on it. So as we see people like Ethan Klein and Kathy Griffin banned permanently for violating terms

of service, of course, they're crying and screaming, saying Twitter's all over, man. No one's going to use it. It's going to be really funny, though, because these actors, they all in this big wave started impersonating Elon Musk with verified accounts. So he started locking their accounts because that's always been against the rules. These people are saying, that's it. We're going to have to go to Macedon because no one's going to be here anymore. Yet the platform's growing. Regular people, not the cult. They're taking back public discourse on Twitter. So I'm excited to see so far what Elon has done.

Of course, I mentioned Ethan Klein has been banned. The H3, well, just the H3H3 Productions Twitter account. Kathy Griffin. And then a bunch of actors and actresses have claimed like, we're ditching Twitter. We don't want to be here anymore. Here's the funny thing. I think it's a scam. I think a bunch of these celebrities were using fake, had fake followers because it's a big PR stunt. These companies have always done stuff like this. They want to make it look like you're

more prominent. If Elon Musk comes in and starts purging all the fake accounts, how many followers are going to be lost by these big celebrities? It'll be really embarrassing. So what do you do? The smart people are like, I'm leaving on principle. Give me press before it becomes embarrassing. So we're going to talk about that. And then, of course, ladies and gentlemen, the only story that I actually care about because it's mystical and it's magical is the MAGA moon rising. I want you all to hear this. At 12.02 a.m. Pacific Standard Time, when the contiguous United States is now completely within November 8th, the day of the midterm, there will be a beginning again at 12.02 a.m. A blood moon, a full moon, total blood lunar eclipse. It's when the moon starts turning red. For those on the East Coast, between 517 and 645 or so, you will see a blood red moon. Now, the Incans and the Mesopotamians believed that a blood moon signified the death of the king

and the overthrow of his regime. I kid you not. This is crazy. So that one has me just like, you know, I don't know if I believe in the omens or anything, but the overthrow of the king revolution, a red wave, perhaps not of establishment Republicans, but of MAGA Republicans. So people are calling it the MAGA moon. We'll talk about that, plus all of the absurdities. Man, we've got Democrats contradicting themselves, of course, with the left saying, where my free speech is going away. Yeah, you never cared before. And then we have Fetterman suing over ballots that are trying to get counted. There's a lot of stuff going on we're going to talk about. So before we get started, my friends, head over to TimCast.com, become a member to support our work. We're going to have a members

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and so much more, we have, of course, Libby. Hey, Tim, what's going on? I don't need to say your last name anymore. I have a last name. It's Cook. I'm not one of these one, oh my God.

One name people. One name people. Nope, nice to see you guys. Thanks. It's Libby Emmons. That's it's not one name people one name people nope nice to see you guys thanks it's it's libby emmons that's it but you're here so much just say yeah that's it also ian is not here tonight we have owen cook what's up guys who are you um i do seminars all over the world we do them completely for free we've done live events in 265 cities 75 countries around the world hundreds of thousands of people face-to-face and millions online. And then we post them on YouTube.

It's about personal growth, making more money, getting better socially, getting more spiritually tapped in. Right on. Hey, guys. My name is Luke Rudasky here of WeAreChange.org. And I know everyone's talking about the midterm elections right now, but I want to come out officially right now. And I would like to endorse for 2024 my candidate of choice ligma johnson he is an

individual that is that has a lot of stiff competition but he's gonna he's gonna be very hard on the issues that matter and he's going to win a lot of hearts and minds if you are on the ligma johnson train you could officially get this political shirt on thebestpoliticalshirts.com. Ligma Johnson, 2024. And I'm Serge.com. You know what it is. Man, I would love to just start with the Blood Moon story because I love the weird, creepy stuff. But let's get into the nitty-gritty of Elon banning all these people and record growth. From The Verge.

Ah, yes. The Verge of all websites. They're a lefty website. Twitter tells advertisers that user growth is at all-time highs under Elon Musk. And then they add, but will that be enough for advertisers to come back? It's pointless. You don't need to ask that question. Since Musk's takeover, Twitter's monetizable daily users growth has accelerated more than 20%, while Twitter's largest market, the U.S., is growing even more quickly, according to an internal fact obtained by The Verge that was shared with Twitter's sales team on Monday. All right.

That's the news right there. But this is why it's important, because right now we are seeing a bunch of leftists. These people who go on Twitter and just scream all day. They're getting banned. Kathy Griffin's gone. This guy, Rich Sommer, is gone. Sarah Silverman backed down. I love this. These people who are like, screw you, Elon.

I'll do whatever I want. Well, a bunch of them went nuts. Ethan Klein, Kathy Griffin, for instance, defied warnings and impersonated Elon Musk with a verification badge, which has always been against the rules. And they're gone. Bye bye. You're out of the conversation. Now, look, that's not the end of their careers.

Of course, I mean, Kathy Griffin, maybe she had nothing left to begin with. Nobody wants to hire her. All she really had was her Twitter. But, you know, Ethan, he hosts a podcast, so he'll be able to keep working. He's just out of the Twitter space. Sarah Silverman, she posted that she was locked out of her account and then quickly obeyed the rules and then started saying what Elon Musk was doing, if true, would actually be very, very amazing. So I find this to be quite hilarious that all their huffing and puffing, it's not working.

In fact, Elon Musk taking over has made Twitter bigger, better. Yeah, by the way, Elon just tweeted a couple of minutes ago, quote, Twitter usage is at an all-time high, LOL. And then goes on in a subtweet saying, I just hope the servers don't melt. Now, a lot of people are bringing up the controversy when it comes to the banning of a lot of these celebrities who, again, didn't follow the rules, were warned, and they still decided to kind of push the limits here. But at the end of the day, I definitely disagree with Kathy Griffin. I definitely disagree with H3H3. But at the end of the day, I definitely disagree with Kathy Griffin. I definitely disagree with H3H3. But at the end of the day, I hope there is some redemption for these individuals. But some people are thinking that this is going to be a larger strategy when it comes to bringing back

a lot of different people. So other people are saying that this could be potentially 4D chess as a way to bring back the unbanned people and not have as much controversy and try to appease some people by saying, you know what, I'll bring back H3H3, but also so does Alex Jones. You know, I'll bring back Kathy Griffin, but so will, of course, the Babylon Bee. And then, of course, have a kind of concerted strategic effort on banning people. I think that's what might be happening here. Yeah. I mean, Musk clearly wants to bring all these people back on the platform. He clearly wants Babylon Bee and all these guys back. He's just got to figure out how to do it to not lose everybody.

And I think that he's not going to lose everybody. I think advertisers are going to jump back on. They're going to make a ton of money this way. Advertisers don't care. We know they don't care. It's obvious they don't care. During Pride Month when they have all their big flags and they have trans everything and they're super stoked about that all over the

Anglosphere. And then you look at their advertising in Saudi Arabia and it's just everything and they're super stoked about that all over the Anglosphere. And then you look at their advertising in Saudi Arabia and it's just black and white. Yeah, that's true. There's no pride anywhere. They don't care. They just want to go where the money is. And honestly,

that is what they should be doing. They should be accountable to their shareholders and that's what they should do. No quarter. No quarter for these leftists on Twitter. No, look, look, look. If you come to me... I say put them no look look if you come to me put them all on

if you come to me so sargon uh carl benjamin gets banned and they all say well he broke the rules he deserves to be banned and it's like he got banned for uh sarcastically insulting white supremacists or neo-nazis or whatever he was calling them a racial slur this was twitter so not the youtube thing he was calling them so the anti-emitic slur. And I could be wrong. It's been a long time. But his point was like he was calling them what they hated as a way to demean them because he doesn't like that kind of stuff. They banned him. These leftists then all say, good riddance, good, good, good. And so they're okay with censorship. They don't agree with free speech. Now that Elon Musk is in charge and saying here are the rules and they're whining and complaining, there is absolutely no way I will defend people. Think about how mean it would be to actually try and get them back on the

platform. That means they come out and say, I believe in these values. And then I go, no, no, I'm going to reject your values and apply different values to you. No, no, no, no, no, no. They don't want free speech. I will not defend their free speech. That's exactly what they want and what they believe in. So that means permanent bans for all of these people. Ethan Klein, Kathy Griffin, don't care.

Goodbye. Ethan Klein has praised cancel culture. He's praised bannings before. Kathy Griffin, of course. Okay then. Guys, you reap what you've sown. Yeah, I totally disagree. I totally disagree with that too.

Because the thing is, the reason you have values isn't because you want, you know, you have values because you hold them across the board for everybody. You don't have, you don't apply your values,

you know, based on what the other people believe. It's like if somebody believes in euthanasia and you're a doctor and you don't believe in euthanasia, you're not going to help. If there's a bunch of houses and we all agree,

okay, if a house starts on fire, we will all come together to help put the fire out and rebuild the home for you because we're in this together. And then a fire starts and one guy sits back laughing and we're like,

hey, are you going to help? He's like, no, I don't care. It's good the fire's burning. And I'll be like, okay, dude, whatever. Then one day his house is on fire and he goes, help, help. My house is on fire.

I'm going to sit back and be like, bro, you ain't getting anything from me. I'm not going to sit here and give give all of my good will to people who exploit it now. Yeah, that means your about your values don't mean anything. No, it's it absolutely does. It absolutely does. We've had this conversation quite a bit about defending free speech. And for a long time, I said, well, you know what? When these people advocate for the destruction of the public discourse, we must still defend their free speech. No, no, no, no, no. When someone comes and says, I don't like what you say, and I don't want you to say it, and we argue about it, that's fine. But if someone is actively destroying everything,

yeah, I'm not going to defend them they they agree they believe in this they agree with it you see you see my point i see your point there was a there was a there was a period where you know on this show and on other shows we've talked about that's like no no no you know i know these people they they add no because what ends up happening is every single time these people advocate for things to get worse and they do and then what did we keep doing put it sitting down crossing our legs like no no we have to be fair rick santorum came on the show and said we can't impeach joe biden we have to be fair and it's like dude the guy committed crimes he's like we don't play those games i am sick of this i am done with it i believe in free

speech for people who agree in with free speech if speech. If you believe I should have a right to speak and you should have a right to speak, then I will stop anyone from censoring you because you are actively participating and making things better. But if you're the arsonist going around burning down houses, then I say no quarter for you. Get that out. These are destructive people who are burning everything down. What if the fire gets too crazy and it affects your house? That's another analogy here. And I do believe Biden should be absolutely impeached. And I absolutely disagree with

everything. I think some of their behavior was absolutely disgusting, especially Kathy Griffin with the Trump mask, the Trump head. That was absolutely just immoral. But that's not the issue. Yeah. The issue is they were actively getting people banned. And now when the rules are applied to them, and get this, Elon changed the rules for these people. That also pissed me off. The rules have always been if you're verified, you cannot impersonate people. What did Elon say?

I'm changing the rules for all of these unhinged leftists. You're now allowed to do it so long as you put parody in your name. And they still wouldn't do it. So they got banned. These are these are this is not so much even about the analogy of people of someone refusing to help with with with, you know, my house is on fire and he won't help. No, no, this is the guy who set the fire. These are people who went around actively attacking the right of speech. If that is your principles, I say you live by them. And I'm not going to defend you. Kathy Griffin wants to post a picture

for what Trump said. I will defend her right when they try to censor her. She actively encourages censorship. I'm going to say you live by the sword. Congratulations. I think everyone deserves a road to redemption.

I totally agree with that. I think they should be able to be a part of the conversations. They should, of course, not be permanently banned from ever being on a platform that is a major communication highway that we should understand where their voices are coming from in order to battle their bad ideas. Because if we just shun them to the side, they're going to grow and fester. I agree.

I get it. I just really want Megan Murphy back on the platform. I agree. However, I will not in any way lift a single finger to help them. That's it. You know, I'm listening to this. I agree with both of your points.

Like I see where you're coming from and I see where you're coming from. I'm going to need like a couple days to think about this because you both make great points. Do you think there's any chance that Ethan could come around based on this experience

or do you think he's too stubborn? One more time, sorry. Could Ethan come around on the idea of free speech based on this experience? Could this be eye-opening for him, perhaps? He praised cancel culture. So whenever negative things are applied to him,

he talks about how he's an advocate for free speech. When bad things happen to other people, he talks about how you're being held to certain standards and facing consequences. It's nonsense. It's hypocrisy. So look. He's a smart enough guy to become successful, right?

So maybe he'll come around. I'd be interested to see if he has a different perspective after this. And he's made videos about me, by the way, and I've never minded that. But I'd be curious to see if he comes around based on this. Could be a teachable metaphor. No, I doubt it. He's saying Elon Musk killed comedy. Dude broke the rules, defied the warnings, broke the rules again, and now he's – it's a stunt.

But I'll tell you. The way I see this is we're part of a big community. We agree with the principle of free speech. People like this have lied, cheated and stolen their way to gain followers and gain power. Their principles flicker and blow with the wind. And it is completely meaningless what they say. So when they come out now and say, no, no, I'm for free speech, I'll be like, listen, I'm going to hold you to the standards you asked me to hold you to.

If someone if somebody was in my house and they kept smashing things, I would kick them out. But then but you're making them homeless. You're making them. So what? You are smashing things up. I don't want people to be homeless. I think people, you know, should should should have a chance. But at a certain point, someone is so destructive, chaotic that you just say, I'm not doing it.

If Kathy Griffin got banned for just the Trump head, I'd be like, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's a really, really dangerous path to go with that kind of art. But I don't think we should be banning that. The difference here is these are people who actively fight against free speech. And I'm at the point where I'm like, yo, I'm not going to let arsonists in my house. If we are all in agreement that we shouldn't commit arson, we're good. You can make a campfire.

You're not doing arson. You go to my house without setting fires, I'm not going to sit here and be like, nah, it's all right. I believe in the people that have a right to be warm. It's like, no, that's totally different. There's a difference. It's just, look.

I don't know about that analogy. I mean, I don't know. There's a lot of analogies here that we can interpret in many different ways. If you sit back and let people constantly smack you in the face, and then when you say stop, they go,

they're going around punching people, another analogy for you, and then you just say like, well, I don't believe in violence, so we're going to let them keep doing it. It's like, no way, dude. You arrest them. You stop them. That's the pacifist view, is if somebody's attacking you, you don't attack them back. But words aren't violent.

So listen, by all means, I think Ethan and Kathy Griffin have a right to speech. I think that them getting banned was actually kind of dumb. Elon should just lock their accounts until they change it and then lock it again until they change it. And they take away the verification badge. Another thing you can do is if you change your name and parody someone, your icon changes to a jester cap permanently. So if Kathy Griffin wants and parody someone, your icon changes to a gesture cap permanently. So if Kathy Griffin wants to parody Elon, she gets a permanent gesture cap.

However, I will not advocate for nor lift a finger for these people to get their accounts back. Or just put a notice underneath their profile. Hey, guys, these guys impersonate other individuals. Be careful if they might be scamming you or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or something like that. So they have the candidate tag. Put a parody tag under their name the first time they do it and forever that's it so do you

feel that it should be permanently banned or that they should do that other solution that you said i think if you change your profile to impersonate someone without labeling it parody they should first lock your account and say as a a verified account, you can impersonate, change your profile picture and your name, or add parody to your account and apply the gesture icon. And then if you say no, you can go back to being your regular verified self. If you then keep doing it, then Twitter forcibly puts the parody under your name permanently and a gesture icon. But there's nothing wrong with that if you're an actual comedy account.

I thought that was a great suggestion. So do you think that they should be left banned or do the suggestion that you said there? So just that I said, but I will never, if I ever see Elon Musk, not a single word will be muttered of these people in any way to bring their accounts back. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to advocate for arsonists to be restored. Do I think they deserve free speech? Yes.

Will I defend anybody who fights for free speech? Yes. But I'm done letting arsonists run amok and then acting like, oh, I'll say it again. When Rick Santorum said we can't impeach Joe Biden because we are better than that, I'm like, dude, they're running roughshod over you right now. They have arrested and charged a bunch of pro-lifers. Meanwhile, right now there are protesters at Amy Coney Barrett's house. Maybe not right now, but in the past day or so. There's a clear problem of double standards here. And I'm not going to sit back and just be like, well, you know, I'm going to consistently apply my values to evil people who are burning things down. Hey, comparing someone or someone's argument to a Rick Santorum argument is a low blow, first of all.

That's not fair. He is not a man of the people. And I definitely disagree with him. I don't know. He's a very weird politician. But again, mainline middle of the road. I think, again, the criticism of him is absolutely fair. I don't I don't know. I don't think it could be attributed to this larger conversation. Let's let's do this. We'll get into it. Here's a tweet from pop crave pop craves got 1.1 million followers and they said twitter suspends ethan klein despite him following elon musk stated guideline for parody accounts that is a lie that is absolutely not true across the board all of these different

websites are lying about why uh these people why kathy griffin and ethan klein are being banned this is what I'm saying. NPR lied about that. I was listening to their report this morning on that. Ethan Klein banned after mocking Elon Musk over verification fiasco. They were banned because they changed their images and names to Elon Musk without putting parody in their name. Now, here's what pisses me off.

Elon gave them special rules. Why? So Milo got his verification removed because he put BuzzFeed news reporter in his profile, Milo Yiannopoulos. And then he was complaining about it. Like, why was I removed? He was like, well, you put BuzzFeed reporter. They said you're not verified then. The rules on Twitter are that you cannot be verified and be parody. That's just always been that way. Elon decided to make special rules to allow the left to do this so they could make fun of him. And they intentionally broke the rules.

Now, maybe 4D chess. He said, I'm going to get them. I'm going to give them what they ask for, and they'll still reject it. He gave him warnings. They rejected it. So these people don't want to be on the platform. They don't want to have their accounts restored. These are people who are engaging outright social media arson.

And the media is lying on their behalf. Well, yeah, there is definite lying going on about this. NPR was saying that people were banned for having parody accounts, which was exactly untrue as well. And, yeah, do you think that musk just thought that these people have him over a barrel or something i mean he should clearly not think that now that the platform is growing so much he knew that there he's he's he's got all the data he knows the he knows the growth is happening and he's he clearly doesn't care he's tweeting at people eight dollars eight dollars is the new learn to code right Right, yeah. He's been doing that.

Good, man. You know, there's that viral Karl Popper meme. You ever see it? Where he's like the little comic book and he's like, if you tolerate intolerance, then intolerance takes over. It's like, okay, for you, I will apply those standards, but for nobody else. So if these people like Ethan want to say it is good that people are banned, I'll say that when you're banned, so be it. Congratulations. It's what you asked for. paradigms of approaching the same problem and i've seen both things work i've seen it to where if you put a firm boundary it actually helps things and if you don't have a boundary things go to chaos but i've also seen it to where if you forgive somebody and you say hey you know maybe get him to come around you know maybe ethan could come around like like where where do you get to the point that somebody like ethan comes around you don't but the thing is this is the problem

with this is that the dude has been involved in so many high profile cancellations and advocated for so much yeah that when you come into the conversation late, you're like, maybe we can turn him around. It's like, bro, we've been here for years. He's made videos about me. I never minded it. But the point is that, you know, I can see the gray area to any human being. And he's a very intelligent person. And his buddy Hassan's an intelligent person.

They're also very angry people. I disagree with most of what they say. But their minds are sharp. So they might be able to see things a different way. It would be amazing if you guys could have more conversations. See, you're filling in for Ian very, very well here. I got it. So we've had this conversation way too many times,

especially with Ian, because it's like no matter how many times an evil person does something evil and refuses an olive branch, you know, Ian is always, he's a good hearted guy. He's always just like, we got to give him a chance. And I'm like, at a certain point, dude. What would it take to get you guys into a conversation

you mean when I invite them on the show consistently all the time in good faith and they use that to gain followers and make up fake drama to make it seem like I pulled some BS the moment you tweeted them something nice they use it for views and they make drama

it's just out of the question I think it'd be an amazing conversation do you ever make it to LA or they could make it out here oh come on come on bro like we've invited this guy on so many times who ethan uh uh we i've invited ethan i think once or twice outright ignored hasan actually agreed and then privately dm'd and said i i won't do it i'm sorry and i'm like okay hasan's got a lot of courage. I mean, he debated. He outright said he will never do it. Really? I'm surprised by that.

I'm not. Is it because they want you to go to Los Angeles? No. It's because. So if you go to LA, they're going to decline. Dude. I can't keep having this conversation. Okay.

Like, we have invited all of these people consistently. And what they do invariably is you send an email where you're like, we'd love to have you on the show. And if it's calm and polite, it's typically ignored. Sometimes they'll then screenshot it, post it, and be like, they invited me, but then started calling me a racial slur. It's just like the moment you open up communication, they're like, now's my chance to get views. Now's my chance to make drama. Ooh, they want to talk to me? Let's make drama out of it.

There's no point. That's been a lot of this whole Twitter thing is making drama. That's all want to talk to me? Let's make drama out of it. There's no point. That's been a lot of this whole Twitter thing is making drama. That's all it is. Or all the people who are saying that they're leaving the platform and they make giant big shows about leaving the platform. It reminds me of several years ago when people would leave Facebook. They'd be like,

I can't be on Facebook anymore. I just can't handle it anymore. And then it'd be like two weeks later and they're just like, hi, I'm back on Facebook. It's like you gave me a whole song and dance about how you were leaving. Now you're back to a loser. Elon Musk. Just shut it.

Give them warnings. They defied those warnings and intentionally got banned. And then started doing a PR run of Elon Musk is targeting me and they don't believe in free speech. That's why I'm like, no quarter, because I believed in free speech for these people over and over and over again. And every time I did, they turned it around as a PR stunt. And I'm like, OK, at a certain point, you have to recognize evil people are lying to you. That's it. Stop helping evil people. That's it. Help good people who in good faith are censored.

When someone comes out and says, if someone came out and said, I don't believe in free speech, and then got censored, I'd be like, okay, that person shouldn't have been censored. If someone comes out actively trying to get people banned, celebrating their bannings, and says no one should ever be allowed back on, I'd be like, okay, well, then it happens to you. I'm not going to defend you. That's it. There you go. Well, I wasn't going to go out there advocating for people, but I'd be happy to have everybody back on the platform.

At this point, it's like, you want to hear what they have to say. Let them go. Yeah, why not? Like, just have everybody on Twitter. Whenever people are censored, they usually double down. They're usually forced into more kind of extremist corners on the internet, and they usually never

have even a pathway towards seeing any kind of other semblance in any other side of the story. I don't know. I might be too optimistic, but I think at the end of the day, bring everyone back. Let's have a full debate. Let's have a conversation. And let the best ideas beat out the bad ideas. And I think that's going to happen.

And I think that's the strategy here. And right. And no one disagrees with that. And we had a good super chat that super chat that makes a great example a great analogy a battle is being fought but between two ideological opponents one side continually insists if we have the high ground we must cede to the lower ground and evil battle even battlefield with our enemies it's only fair and the right thing to do. And they say, thank you. And then they start shooting at you again. So it's like, dude, take the high ground.

I'm done with this. If people want free speech, advocate for free speech, and have disparate opinions and angry opinions and bad opinions and leftist opinions, I don't care. If Elon Musk banned someone literally because they were making fun of him, I'd be like, that is BS. But these are people who are lying. The media is lying.

They're claiming they were banned for making fun of Elon Musk. Total lies. They're saying they followed the rules. Total lies. They are setting fire to the system and hoping we give them an opportunity to come back. I'm not doing it. Anyway, Whoopi Goldberg and what's her name? Gigi Hadid.

Delete their Twitter accounts. Hadid. She's like a supermodel. Yes. Isn't she a supermodel? I don't care. These people are all leaving and Twitter is growing more than it's ever grown. More and more people want to be on the platform.

Elon Musk is making it funny, exciting, and entertaining again. And these people are just like, well, I'm leaving. Good. So be it. I don't care. Bye. This is the point. Kathy Griffin and Ethan Klein

wanted to get banned. Like, along with all of these other actors, they're intentionally leaving the platform. Because you think that their follower counts are fake. No, I think for a lot of them

it's true. Like, a lot of high-profile celebrities, you ever notice they'll tweet and get like five retweets? Mm-hmm. They have a million followers and nobody ever interacts

with them? That is a whole crazy thing. Could I speak on speak on that by the way i live in los angeles i live um right in the epicenter of this so i'll meet the people they actually approach me and offer to me to boost uh my followers i say no because i think it'll mess up your engagement but um they'll point out to me all the people who they've actually boosted their followers it's apparently was very very common for a long long time oh really to have people like come in fake followers fake engagement they'll even get it to the point where they increase the followers that increase the views on the videos increase the likes increase the comments and you can tell the comments are very dumb and kind of simple um this is a huge huge things they do it because they're trying to get social proof um something they do yeah well that's

what celebrities do just to make yourself look more popular more relevant that's what celebrities do now what politicians do is even double layered layered than that because they're using tax dollars for bots and sock puppet accounts in order to of course galvanize political stances and ideas that they want you to believe that other people are behind as well so this happens on a big major level this is where elon musk is smart in 2011 there were revelations leaked leaked communications show that the u.s government was purchasing sock puppet accounts to manipulate public opinion. They claimed not in the United States. Nonetheless, Twitter was heavily involved.

So Elon probably looked at this and said, the intelligence agencies really want these accounts. They want to manipulate. They have no choice but to pay me eight bucks per account they use. So he says eight bucks. Now, it's funny because all these leftists are like, there's only 400,000 verified individuals anyway. Even if Elon Musk charged them all $8, he wouldn't make enough to run the platform. And it's just like,

are you stupid? He wants to charge people who are not verified to become verified so that he gets millions of $8 subscriptions. But more importantly, the U.S. government will now have to spend $8 per bot. And they probably operate millions of them. So Elon's like hey but here's here's the worst part that's my money that's your money yeah yeah elon what government taking our money and giving it to

elon musk well yeah i mean that's that's pretty much his history when you look at all the businesses he started number one but but you know as we talked about celebrities having social proof the government i think their proof is called like MKUltra proof or something. But they do this on such a grand level. And we are literally at the precipice where all of this could be exposed. All of the manipulation, all the finagling, all the things that are happening behind the scenes that we don't know about when it comes to the big government putting their hand up your, you know what, in your business. That could all end with Elon Musk musk saying okay i'm going to make a stand here fake accounts fake bots not allowed here which is going to really change the

internet landscape as as of course social media has become so curated the algorithms are so controlled that it's only what special interests want you to see when we have free speech when we don't have bots we have the first potential for actual real conversations to happen that could change not only the social landscape, but the political landscape of this country and change it for what I believe to be for the better, since good ideas will be able to battle bad ideas. And I think this has been happening on such a big level, especially during the last three years, especially during COVID. All the bad ideas that were were followed that people were going

along with could never be tested and challenged now the government's going to face the reality that they can't lie to us anymore and that's going to be a game changer i think they're going to keep lying to us anyway but not on social media this also if you want to pull this off if you guys have seen the article by darren beattie from revolver.news about elon musk and twitter have you guys seen those darren beattie on revolver.news about Elon Musk and Twitter. Have you guys seen those? Darren Beattie on revolver.news. He wrote these incredible articles about how for Elon Musk to buy Twitter is not like buying Home Depot. So even if Home Depot is theoretically bigger, Twitter is this, you know, entire national conversation. So it's Elon is probably going to get take so many hits based on this. And there's so many vulnerabilities that Elon has.

So it's going to be tough for him, I think, to make this truly free speech. I think it's still up in the air if he's able to do this. I think it really is funny when you think about the government sock puppets that, you know, Elon's businesses are all about subsidies. SpaceX, government contracts. What did Tesla get?

They got subsidies or what? Yeah, especially when it comes to carbon credits that they also sell on the market right now. That's one of the ways that they still make a lot of their money. People don't understand that. Elon Musk is also for a carbon tax, also for world government, and promotes a lot of the bigger globalist issues as well. The real dispute is that the people complaining about Elon are actually government sock puppets being like, we don't want to spend the $8. As they buy his Tesla.

That's right. Like AOC. Well, they don't, though. I mean, if you think, like, there have been a lot of incidences where Biden has touted EVs and stuff, and he never mentions Tesla. Yeah. Well, now there was a big shift, as, of course, he's even promoting and giving tax incentives to companies that don't produce cars in the United States. Tesla produces cars and taxless. Exactly.

All right. All right. Let's talk about Elon from Politico. Elon Musk backs Republicans ahead of midterms. Shared power curbs the worst excesses of both parties, Musk wrote in a tweet. He wanted to say that he's always been independent, leaning Democrat. Now he's saying it's time to vote Republican. To independent minded voters, shared power curbs the worst excesses of both parties. Therefore, I recommend voting for a Republican Congress, given that the presidency

is Democratic, Musk wrote on Twitter. All right. I'll take it, I guess. He ain't wrong. Yeah, I mean, I think that's the way to go personally, and I think a lot of the states where we have contentious elections, you know, like New York suddenly was very contentious.

We have Kathy Hochul, who is just the worst. I mean, she's terrible. And we have Lee Zeldin, who has the broad support of the Jewish community that's been facing increasing anti-Semitism in the city. And suddenly, Zeldin has pulled ahead in the polls. That's fascinating. I don't think we've had a Republican governor

in New York City, New York State since... Pataki. Pataki, yeah. When was that? The last one. That was like 94. That was, no, 2000, I think.

He was also a Bilderberg member, George Pataki. Oh, really? I had a conversation with him. It didn't go as good as I thought it would. Really? But the argument that Elon Musk is making here

is essentially, I was talking about this a couple of days ago on this show, saying specifically, the best government is no government. When the government is fighting each other, that's the government I want, because then the government isn't fighting you, the citizenry. And the point he makes here- They're still spending all your money, though. Well, not if they're not passing laws by having, of course, arguments about them and not agreeing

with them. So they're spending less of your money. They're passing less laws when there's, of course, a juggernaut inside of the Capitol and all of them are disagreeing on what they should be doing. Right, but what we have going on right now is we have a Congress that disagrees with each other, that doesn't get anything done. And so then we have a president who just runs executive orders from the Oval Office, spending trillions of dollars in so doing on all kinds of random garbage.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, executive orders have been normalized by the previous presidents, and it seems like every president is doing it more and more and more. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Trump had a bunch of executive orders as well. Obama had a ton. He had more than Bush. And I think we also have to counter and factor in the Federal Reserve policies that truly do matter when it comes to our money. But I'm not making the policy about even just the money. I'm talking about government intervening in your life. And I think that's what Elon Musk is calling for here, a checks of balances. So the Republicans say no to the Democrats, the Democrats say no to the Republicans. I'm all for that. Yeah, I think what we'll end up seeing if we do have, you know,

the red wave is we're going to see all of these investigations because Congress won't be able to get any laws passed, but they will be able to dig into things and figure out what's been going on. Agreed. Yeah. Subpoena power. Rand Paul is going to be on like the health committee or something like that. Yeah, and Marjorie Taylor Greene's going to get some committees back. She wants to be on what, the

oversight committee? Is that what she said? Which one did she want to be on? But you know, she's got McCarthy over a barrel a little bit, and he's going to have to put her on whatever she wants. And then maybe a couple years later, two years later, we'll have new leadership. Maybe we'll get more America First candidates in. But this is a start.

What's the best government, Owen? Give us the answer here. I don't know. I've had so many conflicting opinions of this as I've gotten older. Minimal? here i don't know i've had so many conflicting opinions of this as i've gotten older minimal i think the challenge is with uh i think any any uh a lot of these ideologies communism even anarchism are utopian they're idealistic and humans are driven by emotion one of the challenges with uh the the the marketplace of ideas argument that we should let all the ideas compete with each other,

which I mostly agree with, is that what we've seen consistently from the left is exploitation of emotion for power. And so when you put every idea in the marketplace, and one idea is two plus two equals four, the left comes in and says,

you're a white supremacist. And you go, huh? And then it makes people feel bad. Those feelings drive them more than the facts do. So your argument only works insofar as you're able to effectively communicate. When you have people who are clearly not trying to communicate and trying to deceive and destroy, well, you get big problems. So we can say we want to be, we want no government.

We want to be libertarian. We want to say everybody can do their thing. But then evil people seek to exploit. Well, it goes even deeper, too, when you have censorship. So now you can't even fight back effectively. I feel like if you have free speech openly and you can fight back, you can make really, really compelling arguments. I mean, if there was a platform where we could speak freely, the kind of content that I could make would be off the chains but but can't do it, right? So that's one part. Another thing too, is that it's really, really sick and sociopathic when you see some of the most important issues in the world, things

like, you know, being against white supremacy, then being twisted for some kind of political agenda. I mean, these are really, really important issues that then get twisted and it actually devalues it, right? So if everybody's being called these things, it devalues it right so if everybody's being called these things it devalues it for when there's a real instance of that which is just one of the sickest things that i've ever seen and it's one of these things where then people are afraid to even give their opinion um because if you get painted with that brush it's like it's kind of like getting uh becoming radioactive yeah i'm for anarchy myself because anarchy to me represents decentralization and i think most of our problems in our society are plaguing from centralization. And I think the more we break up power, the more

we allow individuals to decide for themselves what is right for them. I think that's the pathway that's going to help us. But then maybe the real answer is not anarchy, but to recognize that a system will always, the power will always begin to coalesce. And there needs to be a mechanism to immediately shatter that centralized power, and then recognizing that your decentralized system will slowly start to centralize again. I don't think we have in this country the proper mechanisms for reestablishing decentralization. And it's because power doesn't want to give itself up. So the Constitution has done a really great job of holding back rapid centralization.

But even now, the Constitution is Swiss cheese. Yeah. And things are really things are really tightening up at a federal level. You even hear Biden talking about how if the Democrats hold Congress, they're going to pass. They're going to federally legalize abortion, Even though that's not something that the populace as a whole wants. They're just going to do stuff anyway. And they've been. I mean, when was the last time they declared war?

Yeah, they don't do that. Was it Vietnam? They do instead though pass legislation about not being discriminatory based on people's hairstyles. That's in New York. That's an actual law passed in New York City where if you get caught discriminating against someone's haircut allegedly you have to pay, what is it, $150,000

fine? I don't know. $125,000 fine? That's for accidental. If it's a willful discrimination, it's $250,000. That's insane. That's too much government. That's too much. But I'm pretty sure they put that in at the federal level. I'm pretty sure that went through Congress. I don't remember hearing that. I remember hearing it in New York City

specifically. Yeah, it was definitely in New York City. But they're also going to put through the thing, the federal level, where you basically can't be a freelancer anymore. You know, the like AB5 in California. They're doing that. The PRO Act. New York's doing that.

New York is doing that. But also the federal government is doing that. What? Yeah, Biden has been pushing for that for a while. That's apocalyptic. It's a devastating plan because it means that people are no longer in control of their own work product. It means you can't be an

independent. You can't just be yourself and hire yourself out and do some work. So AB5, for those that aren't familiar, it was this law they passed in California that said something like, it was different per job, but if you do a certain number of jobs as an independent contractor, you're now an employee. What happened was instantly, my favorite thing, Vox, SB Nation,

fired all their freelancers. They had to because they couldn't do it. They couldn't be a freelancer in California anymore. And also the companies that the law was designed to go after, like Uber and some other ones, got waivers. So they didn't have to do it. But here's the way it works. Under this law, and with the PRO Act, is that New York or is that federal?

The PRO Act, that would be federal. So this is what that means. Let's say you make birdhouses for a living. And then you go to a local shop and say, I'd like to sell you this birdhouse. They'd be like, I can't buy from you because if I buy too many, then you're an employee. Wait, what? I'm just trying to sell you a birdhouse. Well, and then they have all the regulations about different ways that you have to treat

your employees. And you have to give sick leave and parental leave and all these things. And the other thing, too, is you're just a person. You want to work out of your house. You don't want to be beholden to some company. You don't want them to tell you what to do. And the next thing you know, you can't make your birdhouse. So I'm reading online.

I'm an employer based out of California and I can tell you that once they started bringing that stuff in, we actually decided just to shrink. And then when COVID happened, we decided to shrink even more and we actually became a lot more efficient and profitable. I was the kind of person where I just,

we usually have around 100 employees and I did that because I just like to hire people. I just want people to get paid and I like making jobs. But when they start messing with you like that, you're like, you know what? Forget it. We're just gonna to become more efficient.

And that's what we did. And now there's homeless people everywhere because they're struggling to function in the society. Yeah. Vote for more of it, I guess, tomorrow. Hey, here's your chance if you want to burn it all down. Yeah, but I'm not even kidding. Many of these far leftists are like, if you vote for them, they will keep burning it down. I actually hit a point where, because I run a seminars company,

and they wouldn't let us do seminars anymore during COVID and I decided just to travel around and just hang out in the outdoors I skied every major ski resort I went to almost every national park I just drove the country I said I'm good I don't need to run some big company we can run it more profitably without all that stuff we just liked making jobs but if they're saying

that they're going to mess with us like that what's the incentive like how do I know they're not going to lock down again I don't know that so I don't care if they're going to mess with us like that what's the incentive like how do i know they're not going to lock down again i don't know that so i don't care if they're going to play those games like atlas shrug you ever read atlas shrug i'd ran yeah i'm just like i'm chill it's all good you gotta leave california yeah they're i mean i am and they're demoralized i want to move to wyoming actually i want to ski but they're demoralizing employers yeah it sucks it's been horrible out there why why are you still there yeah they're doing that across la is pretty awesome it actually is pretty awesome but it's not reallyper awesome you're in the right place come visit sometime

i invite you guys i've come crash me in la you guys gotta come crash me now it's a lot of fun but i've lived there for a couple years it's not awesome you know well you gotta live in the right place but where'd you live i lived in koreatown i lived in westwood and i lived in north hollywood okay well i hope i hope you'll come visit sometime i want to show you around but okay just come you live in the right places it turns out yeah apparently had the wrong, yeah, it was awful. Apparently had the wrong experience. Yeah, but the point being is that Caruso might get in. We're all hoping for Rick Caruso. We're all praying for Rick Caruso.

You're still going to have Newsome, and he's a menace. We just got to pray for Caruso. All right, all right, all right. Well, check it out. Check it out. Maybe, maybe, from the Daily Wire, superstar Katy Perry confirms she's voting for Rick Caruso. This is a guy, he's technically a Democrat, but he was a Republican until he decided, like a couple weeks before he decided to be.

Is that what happened? I think so. He was a Republican, then he's like, I'm gonna run Democrat. Switched parties, then ran. And now you got this big old picture of Katy Perry voting for a, what is effectively a Republican. So what does that mean? Does that mean there's hope? She's got, is that Jesus tattooed on her wrist? I mean, I'd be

willing to bet that she probably votes Republican in secret anyway. She might. The other thing with Rick Caruso is that he owns the Grove Mall, which is the best mall in L.A. And it's super duper clean. He owns it? I think so. The Grove is awesome. Yeah, we should probably fact check that.

But I think he does. So the thing is, is that the optics of this perfectly clean, like the most clean part of L.A. And then kind of juxtaposing that against the rest of LA that's getting a little bit overrun, it's just the optics of it just feels good. Let's just make sure that I got that correct. Caruso Affiliated owns The Grove. And The Grove is so beautiful, and everybody in LA loves it.

So it's like this beautiful, clean place. So just seeing that is the perfect optics for somebody who's cleaning up. I don't think there's anything that everyone in New York City loves. We have a couple of malls. Central Park. I lived in New York City. I grew up in new york city i think everyone loves central probably that might be the only thing but the grove is so clean so this is perfect it's clean it's orderly everybody in la loves the grove not into the grove but now the cops arrest

you and give you tickets if you're there past like 11 p.m or 12 p.m in new york city central park which is absolutely draconian and we're back to the thing where you're where if you're a woman walking by yourself you're not walking through the park after dark yeah like we are back to that i was talking to a friend of mine the other night and she's like i don't walk through mccarran park after dark anymore well there was that young woman no issue at all that young woman at uh where's your columbia yeah was it she got murdered by those like teenagers or whatever yeah and she's not the only one i mean teenagers are out there killing people there was a young man on the subway 14 years old who was murdered by a gang of girls stealing his iphone 14 just this kid they

stabbed him to death and he didn't know them that they were not at all connected yeah in new york city when you need help from the cops they're not there many times there's so many there's so many instances when you when you are by trump tower and you want to complain about black lives matter in the street the police are there to arrest you yeah of course yes i was finishing my statement there and particularly also talking about how if there's a ticket to be written they're there they're gonna do it but if you need help i know multiple instances where people were getting shot stabbed or beaten and the the cops were literally standing by and watching, not doing anything. But we need to make sure that these violent criminals who are committing these crimes are let out of jail because it's only fair. Right. I mean, you know, a cash bail is holding someone unreasonably. Right.

Yeah, there's a guy. There's a guy. There's a guy named Matt. I want an answer to this this this statement what if you have someone committing crimes in new york should we extend to them our principles of letting them out of jail instead of or should we hold them that's not the same argument i don't have that principle of letting people out of jail so so so we locked up if they commit crimes but you got to prove it right you can't just arrest someone without proving it before a jury of their peers. Okay, but that's, you know. Do you believe that people should only be imprisoned if

they're proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? Probably not. I think probably you should be able to sit in jail waiting for your trial if you're a violent person. So not innocent until proven guilty. If you've committed a violent crime. So the idea is the government shouldn't be allowed to put you in jail unless

they've proven you've committed a crime. But what we've done is we've recognized there's actually like a gradient here. It's not absolute. And that is some people are so dangerous, we actually decide even before we've proven it, we're going to remand them and not release them. Now, that's a challenge. I have an issue with that because my values are the government should not be able to put you in a box and lock it up unless they've proven beyond a reasonable doubt you've actually done something wrong because innocent people do suffer because of this.

However, I also recognize letting people out in this regard results in rampant violent crime and I don't know what the solution is. But I can tell you cashless bail has only made things worse. Yeah, they were supposed to do cashless bail only for non-violent offenders and it hasn't really worked out that way because people will be let out of jail and two days later they're back in because they've killed somebody we've seen this happen in chicago and new york and all over the place and that means the solution is

people get put in jail for extended periods of time because the system can't handle it even if they're they're not proven guilty. That's a problem. That is a problem. And the court system should work a lot faster. Like you shouldn't be sitting there having a trial two years after you did the thing or like, you know, just stuck in jail for the entire time. But that's like, there was a story I saw

where a Starbucks had huge lines going at the drive-thru into the street. So the city voted to ask Starbucks workers to work faster. Oh, nice. Like, if we don't have, if the city is so rife with crime and so dense that the court systems and the police can't actually properly adjudicate crimes,

actually have bail hearings, then the whole system is just totally screwed up and busted. I don't even know how you fix it. So the problem we have now is our values values and this is what the progressives have been advocating for in cities like like la new york and chicago and whatever is you should not be able to imprison someone for any any reason i mean that in the colloquial sense not the legal sense unless you've proven it and that that includes a bail hearing but because there's so much crime you have people lined up and the judge is like, I don't have time for this.

Remand, you're violent. Or a person's like, Your Honor, I argue he's not violent. Okay, fine, you can leave. No cash bail. Then they go murder people again. I think the problem is there is no, like, we can be as principled as we want to be. We have a very serious problem. We do have a serious problem.

And we have crime rising, even though we have Democrats telling us that that's just not. It's a conspiracy theory. I'm mostly in big cities these days. And I was at Surfside Tacos last night here in D.C. Or just closer here. And we got shot at, actually, last night. I'm not even kidding. Everybody's hitting the ground.

Last night, getting a taco. I'm like, wow, I'm going to go out and get a taco. And my kids are going to think, no big deal. We all laughed it off, but it happened. Mom, my kids had to stop a robbery recently in Los Angeles. Had to get in a fist fight. The mother of my kids. My buddy Sid got pistol whipped in New York

and robbed for his watch right by a piano bar in New York. Yeah, I know right where that is. Then he got clocked by another crazy guy in WeHo in Los Angeles. You walk down the street in LA and there is a huge homeless encampments of tents that just run all down Sunset Boulevard. I mean, it's getting crazy.

You can't walk down the street. I don't know what you're talking about. Like you can't walk down the street. Like all the encampments literally block you from walking down the sidewalk. Yeah, you have to actually walk onto, yeah, what he's saying, you have to walk onto Sunset Boulevard

and then you walk by the encampments. And they're not, look, they're nice. They haven't caused any problems. But what if I'm with my kids? I'm then you walk by the encampments and they're not look they're nice they haven't caused any problems but what if I'm with my kids I'm not gonna walk by that like if I'm if I'm walking around the city I you know and I see like a bunch of homeless junkies like nodding off I cross the street I'm not gonna walk by that I'm not gonna do it I'm not walking by with my kid and I'm not walking by by myself like totally you know the risk-reward scenario is just it's just not there.

It's also just weird. What do we do about this? What do we do about this? Do we start arresting the open air drug markets? You know, we used to do that, right? So when Giuliani came into office in New York City in like, what, 93 or something like that, he started cleaning up the city by doing exactly that.

He was just started arresting people, arresting people for selling drugs. And it was, you know, it was pretty severe. And I remember at the time being like, what is this? Why? But the city turned into a paradise within about 15 years, and it was spectacular to live there. It was very effective.

It sounds authoritarian. It does sound authoritarian. But, I mean, I think when you're talking about a big city, when you're talking about millions of people living on top of one another who need to have a safe place to walk and safe streets, safe parks, safe places to walk around and to do their business and all of that.

Lock people up. But at this point too, we have a much different situation because we've completely decriminalized marijuana. And this is right. So this is my argument when it comes to people like Ethan and Kathy Griffin. When they're actively advocating against our rights to free speech, I say they're banned. Okay, good riddance. Like, if someone is innocent in New York City and they get arrested, I hope they are not held. And that's why I don't like the idea of cash bail. That a poor person who's in the wrong place at the wrong time gets arrested and the state is just like too bad for you that's screwed up yeah but now we see what happens when you have cashless bail people are being pushed in front of subway trains people yeah people are being slashed so i don't know security versus freedom i lean towards second amendment the issue however

is you want to err on the side of stop violence meaning more innocent people get locked up or on the side of protecting the innocent meaning more bad people get locked up, or err on the side of protecting the innocent, meaning more bad people go free, we tend to err on the side of bad people going free. We have a situation now, too. At a certain point, we just say, if we know the person is violent

and actively sowing violence destruction, we remand them. If you've got people like these prominent leftists who are going to advocate against speech and cheer for censorship,

we say, remand them. When they get censored, I'm not letting them out. That can be adjudicated somewhere else. I mean, we have a system that incentivizes crime, incentivizes some of the worst behaviors while making citizens defenseless. That's a major problem that, of course, we need to talk about more because if people were able to defend themselves, if people weren't being prosecuted by George Soros district attorneys that punish people for self-defense, it would be a totally different landscape. If politicians and the school system and the education system

weren't incentivizing a lot of this violent nonsense, I don't think we would be in this kind of system. So I think the problem is very complex. I think it can't just be solved in one simple conversation or in one simple phrase. But at the end of the day, I think the government's making it a lot worse than that. And more government wouldn't make it better, in my opinion. I have an analogy that I used for Ian.

You know, Ian really loves this. He's into science. I was imagining living in New York City. And I was imagining when I did live there. I lived on Myrtle and Nostrand in this apartment building in a small, like, 700-square-foot box with people to my top, left, right, and behind me and below me. And then I was just like, man, I can't play music here. You can't. You can get an acoustic guitar and you can play during certain hours. You can't play drums.

Right. You can get practice pads or maybe an electric kit and then put, you know, headphones on or something. But you can't be noisy. And what I started to think was, as people get pushed closer, you have this, as an individual, you have this bubble of freedoms around you. As you get further and further away from other people, that bubble grows and grows and grows, where you're not impeding on anybody else's life.

As you move closer and closer to people, the bubble starts getting pressed upon by other people's bubbles. So I, you know, Ian loved it. As I said, it was like rural people are basically like geishas, bouncing around all crazy, having all this freedom, having a good time. And then as you move closer and closer to the city, it becomes more solid where you literally can't do anything. You can't be noisy. You can't be up too late.

You can't blast a stereo. You can't have your guns. Can't have your guns. Can't cook stinky foods because there's too many people around you. You are solidified in this block that's rigid and controlled. And I think the problem is there is no ideological or policy solution to population density.

There's none. You recognize that if you live in a big city, there's going to be too much crime because there's too many people and the police and the courts won't be able to handle it properly. So I think it's fair to say there's no simple solution. Either you increase security or you let crime rampant. You do give up a lot of your-

Well, there's been an incentivized program within the last few decades pushing people to live in cities, wanting people to live on top of each other. I think that kind of lifestyle has been glorified. I think there's been a lot of manipulation to make it seem like it's trendy, like it's cool, like it's hip.

When in reality, it's an absolute hellscape where police officers try to steal your money to generate revenue for the state while of course making sure you're defenseless as the crackhead who stabs you uh you know as they're literally sitting there watching you uh bleed out that's that's life in new york city but that's life it wasn't like that before it wasn't like that it wasn't like that in the 90s because i grew up It wasn't like that in the 90s? Because I grew up in New York City in the 90s. It was like that in the 90s. Thank you, Libby. It was. And then it changed and got better. It got more authoritarian. And now it's back to like

that again. Broken windows policing. Yes, that's right. And crime dropped dramatically. Stop and frisk. Did it or was it just the reporting? Because we also have to understand here, the New York City Police Department manipulates the reporting. People were not being pushed into the subway tracks like that. Yes, of course. But I'm saying, crime goes in waves. But when there's a program, and there's been an epidemic of New York City police officers

that have been downgrading particular crimes to make it seem like it's not a big issue. Whether it's assaults, it was simple batteries. Whether it's robberies, it was just a small petty theft. And a lot of the times, police officers got caught lessening the crimes in order to make their precinct look like it was good and tough on crime, when in reality there was a lot of crime. And what essentially Giuliani did, he violated

a lot of people's civil rights, but he also contained the crime in particular areas and essentially pushed it away. And it still continued, but it only continued in certain neighborhoods. Yes, that's exactly right. They turned Manhattan into a glorious playground. For the super rich. Yes.

Yes. And for those of us who wandered about in it. Yes. Let's talk about tomorrow. We have this story from Space.com. What is a blood moon published three days ago? My friends, at 3.02 a.m. Eastern Time, the blood moon will begin. For those of you on the West Coast, it will be at 12.02 a.m.

It's fascinating. When I first heard that a blood red moon would be happening on a full moon on the day of the midterm elections, signifying a great red beacon, I was like, wow, that's literally the definition of ominous. But then I thought, 3 a.m., though, what does that mean? 3 a.m.? That's not ominous at all. And then I realized, oh, Pacific time. That means when the sun, when the day starts for the contiguous United States and everyone is now in November 8th, the day of the midterms, the moon will turn blood red.

And it was funny, too, because I don't know if it was you, Luke, who mentioned this. It's not a blue moon. Yeah. And there is a blue moon. Yes. It's the second full moon in a month, and we're not having that. We're having a blood moon. So the blood moon is coming.

And this one's for all of you, my friends, because people are referring to it as the Maga Moon. I Google searched the spiritual meaning of the Blood Moon. And I would like to read for you the opening sentence. The ancient Incans and Mesopotamians believed the Blood Moon was an omen portending death and overthrow of the king. How about that? Yo, what is up? That's crazy.

That's really wild. And this is going to be happening in a few hours? Yeah. And this is also the same day that a lot of people on social media are saying that Donald Trump will announce that he's going to be running for president in 2024. I'm watching his speech right now in Dayton, Ohio. And there's also news that the entire Trump family is going to be in attendance for this speech. Oh my goodness. It is going to be in attendance for this. Oh, my God. It's going to happen.

I'm watching the speech now and I'm monitoring social media. But there's a lot of symbolism here. And I think it's fair to say that there's going to be a lot of crazy things in our social political discourse that are going to be very eye opening in the next few hours. So definitely pay attention to what's going on here. I know i'm closely paying attention to all the details as they're unfolding here everyone's on their cell phones now seeing what's going on on social media no i'm just but i'm keeping an eye on it yeah yeah i'm checking with the crew at the post-millennial who are totally we just gotta wait as soon as we get word if trump announces because he's not going to be speaking for i told them to message me i'm keeping an eye on the rally over i don't, cause he's not going to be speaking for, I told them to message me. I'm keeping an eye on it.

When's the rally over? I don't know, but he's talking forever. I mean, the other night he talked in the rain for 15 minutes. So, but let's, let's,

let me ask you guys when you see stuff like a blood moon, a red moon, right when the day starts on the midterms, when people are calling for a red wave and the omen is that a blood moon signifies the overthrow of the king. How do you guys feel about that? I think it's a lot of fun. Do you believe it?

I just think it's a lot of fun. I don't know if I believe in all of the things having some sort of super universe connection. Is it also a full moon? Yes. So that's going to be another major issue because I have a lot of friends and family that work in emergency services. And they tell me every time it's a full moon, we know it's going to be a full workday. We know there's going to be a lot of people losing their ish. So there's a lot of ingredients here.

Is that actually verified? Is that true? Well, that's what my friends and family told me. It is true. I've heard this as well. Yeah. So I have some family members that are nurses, some that are police officers, and they tell me, like,

full moon, it gets crazy. It's a simple explanation. It's very bright during a full moon. Yeah. You can go around and do stuff. That's right. During a new moon, I mean, everybody who lives outside of a city knows this. You don't need to, but the crazy thing is, people in cities really don't get it. There's that famous story where

the power went out in LA inA. in the 90s, and everyone started calling 911 because there was a strange thing in the sky. It was the Milky Way they'd seen for the first time in their lives. It's crazy. But for a lot of people who live outside of a city, there's moon shadow. People in cities, it's permanent illumination. They don't even realize the moon casts a shadow. And also, my friends and family reported a lot of people

just going crazy, losing their mind, a lot of mental health calls, a lot of people just going absolutely berserk and crazy. So that, with the elections,

with possibly Trump announcing, with this blood red moon, with turbulence. Wait, wait. Someone super chatted. Araftis of Stett said that 3 a.m. is the witching hour. It is. Oh, that's right. So what are the statistical chances that a blood moon could be on the same night as this?

How often does the blood moon happen? Five years. Five years? Are you guys atheists? You believe in God? What do you believe in? I believe in God. I don't believe in any organized religion, though.

But it's things like this i'll say this in and of itself is not enough to convince me of a great power beyond or anything like that because coincidences happen i mean people win the lottery but what are the chances of something like i look blood moons happen elections happen i would love to see someone break down the probability of the blood moon happening at 1202 a.m pacific on the day of an election like we know when our elections are going to be they're all pre-planned it's like the first tuesday or whatever you know of the month of november and then we know when full moons are going to be because we can track mathematically very simply what's the probability of that occurring you know is it going to be because we can track mathematically very simply. What's the probability of that occurring?

You know, is it going to be like one every 17,000 years, one every three years? What are five years with the blood moon? It's certainly not because it would happen every single time. But what if it's like really common? What if it's like actually, you know, every third or fourth blood moon is probably going to fall on a November Tuesday or whatever. I kind of feel like it's extremely rare. Maybe somebody knows the math. I don't know.

I see stuff like that. I don't know the math math it's things like this that you see enough of and eventually just like there's too many weird things like that that happen to just believe we're in some random catech universe there's there's a there's some kind of structure to all of this i i hundred percent think it means something hundred percent what all the stuff all the stuff combined means something i do wishing our our blood moon there's a lot of really really bad stuff happening in the past couple years as you guys are aware of but there's always a lot of really bad stuff happening not like this it's been the last few years there's always a lot of really it just depends on where you're standing and what you're looking at

that i agree with but what's been happening here is next level it's been a while yeah ukraine covid bad but it's always i mean you guys i mean the thing is it's kind of always like this i wish we could dig deeper this is what humanity is like we're constantly facing i think the sad thing is existential crisis we can't even dig too deep into some of the things going on but it's just sad i mean there's crazy stuff happening sure but there's all i mean there's literally always crazy stuff happening. The thing is right now. Technology is always moving extremely quickly.

Technology is moving so quickly right now. That's always happening. Yeah, but we're, I'm just trying to evaluate what we can get into here. This whole thing of like weird and inflection point in history that Biden is always talking about. Like, I think it's always this nuts. When I talk to, you know, my grandparents have passed, but they used to talk about all kinds of crazy things happening. Like they had World War II. They had the Holocaust, for goodness sakes. They had the Great Depression. My grandfather was like mucking around in the woods of Bill

Rick of Massachusetts to forage for mushrooms to feed his family. And by the time he was an older man, like if he looked at a mushroom, he would retch. Like stuff is always nuts. Let me read this. Let me read this. In the Western Christian tradition, the hour between 3 a.m. and 4 a.m. was considered a period of peak supernatural activity. This time is also referred to as the devil's hour due to it being a mocking inversion of time in which Jesus supposedly died, which was 3 p.m. Right. That's like the whole reverse, like everything in Scripture is reversed in order to make it satanic. You have like the black mass that happens, you know, in the middle of the night and all of this stuff. But also in, you know, in ye olden times, that's when people would wake up because they would go to bed after it got dark and then they would kind of wake up in the middle of the night. Correct.

And do stuff and then go back to bed. What does the omen portend? Does it mean that at some point in the next three years, so it's not, I don't think it's once every five years. I think that's on average. I'm not sure. I was reading a couple articles. But I think, yeah, the blood moon, the blood moon might be once every five.

But there's going to be another total lunar eclipse three years later. So we have this blood moon and then we have this three-year period maybe it's meaningless i don't know all i can think is that song you remember that song totally clips of the heart yeah that's all i can think of right now it's running through my head so i think it's a lot of fun i don't know that i put a lot of stock in all of the various you know portents or whatever like that but i do think that it makes it a little bit extra exciting to think about so here's what here's what let's just we'll get some science here they say a blood moon happens or whatever like that, but I do think that it makes it a little bit extra exciting to think about. So here's what it says.

We'll get some science here. They say, a blood moon happens when Earth's moon is in a total lunar eclipse. While it has no special astronomical significance, the view in the sky is striking, as the usually whitish moon becomes red or ruddy brown. Lunar eclipses can only happen during a full moon when the sun fully illuminates the surface. Usually a full moon has no eclipse because the moon orbits in a slightly different plane than the earth and the sun. However, at times the planes coincide. Earth passes in between the moon and the sun and cuts off sunlight, causing an eclipse. So what makes it red? During a full eclipse, the moon is in the earth's shadow, blah, blah, blah. A red moon appears can depend on how

much pollution. Is that what it is? Is it just is it just pollution blood moon calendar okay here we go so there was actually another one this year 16th of may anything happened on may 16th i don't recall november 8th the next will be march uh 14th 2025 and then september 7th 2025 and then March 3rd, 2026. I don't know. I'm checking my date book. Just a, just one day it lines up, huh?

So that's the thing. Like what's the likelihood of this blood mood lining up on election day and a time when people are calling for a red wave and expecting Republicans to win. And well, it can't be a, it says in the bottom right there, it can't be anything but pollution because it's Christopher Columbus. Use it apparently back in the day.

I guess it was like pollution makes it look more red. Oh, okay. I understand. Yeah. I don't know. I don't remember anything on those dates at all. May 16th, I came on the, I was on your show two days later. Oh, man.

That's real bad news. Right? That means you're going to be doing all the chaos. Right? It was all my fault. So we have this video basically explaining it. Los Angeles before the moon sets.

We actually, where we are, it looks like the moon's going to go in an arc over the mountains. So we'll be able to like track it. We're going to try

and film it and see if we can get it. It's crazy. I remember, you know, sometimes I remember seeing several blood moons throughout my life

and just not even realizing it was like what it was or what was going on. It's like, oh, blood moon. I didn't realize that was today. You just look at the moon and it's terrifying. Yeah, pretty scary. What do you think of it?

I was getting overthrown. Yeah, I mean, I hope the people in charge, but only time will tell. Because they're really bad at being in charge. They're terrible at it. Well, I don't know. I think it all depends on perspective. Some would say what they're doing is absolute genius

because they kind of make excuses and they make it look like an old man who's not really well is really in charge of everything when in reality, I don't think that's the case at all. But I was going to throw it at you, Owen, because you were talking about, you know, do you believe in God? What about you?

What do you believe in? I do. And the thing is that as you're on your journey, I think that you'll see these things that'll come up in your field of experience that are like one in millions. And you'll see this again and again and again, as you keep down that path, you'll see this repeatedly. And you'll question it because you're like, this is impossible. How could this be? And I've just seen too much of this as I've gotten older. It just, it's, it's, I don't even like talking about it. I feel like it cheapens it. It's just one of those things that you'll experience. Like, even when

you were saying, um, like there, I almost don't even want to pipe in because I feel like there's just certain things that happen that cheapens it if you go too deep into it, but there's just certain coincidences that are so intense and so crazy as you move on. And, um, I think this is one of them, you know, I, I think things are happening now personally. So we'll see. Let's look back in a couple of years and find out. Yeah, I mean, I think that human beings have a propensity to feel like

they are at the pinnacle of history and are at the end of human existence. I thought you made a great point about the Holocaust and all these other terrible things. I thought you had a great point there. Yeah, I did. I can make more of them too.

I'd love to. We like to find patterns in things. Yeah, it's part of what we do. But then some of these things I did. I can make more of them. I'd love to. We like to find patterns and things. Yeah. It's part of what we do. But then some of these things as you're on your journey will be these one in a million coincidences that let you do things that are so unbelievable. And so it's one of these things where you'll become more like I would encourage you just to even continue to look for these things.

I think that you're on a great journey. I think you'll see them if you look. All right, man. Thanks. Sounds like you're getting real serious journey. I think you'll see them if you look. All right, man. Thanks. Sounds like you're doing it real serious, but just keep robbing. How many of you bought Powerball tickets? I did not.

I did not. You didn't? I meant to, but I didn't realize I had to do it today. $1.9 billion. Yeah. 11 PM is when they're doing the drawing. My friend asked me to get one and I,

I didn't. Didn't someone say that, that the lottery is pretty much a tax on the poor? Yeah. It is, basically. And the money goes to the state. We were talking about this yesterday. I'm like, if I win the lottery, how much of that money actually goes to me?

How much of it goes to the state? How would I feel knowing that I'm giving so much of that money to the state? I'd feel horrible. There's another joke. How come college students never win the lottery? Why? They're too smart to play. It's an another joke. How come college students never win the lottery? Why? They're too smart to play. It's an old joke.

The reason why you always hear these stories of old people winning the lottery, it's because they play all the time. And young people are like, I'm not buying a lottery ticket. I have never bought a lottery ticket. You've never bought one? It's a status Ponzi scheme. It's just gambling. That's all it is.

You know why? The reason I've never bought a lottery ticket is that I have been concerned I would get obsessed and then always buy a lottery ticket is that I have been concerned I would get obsessed and then always buy a lottery ticket. Think about this. $1.9 billion. The cash payout is $929 million. Yeah.

No, I was gonna buy one today. Here's the thing. I had been talked into it. People's lives get destroyed by the lottery because they don't understand what happens when you have money. For like,

for people who've grown up around it or earned their way into it slowly, you see this, like, imagine this. I'll tell you guys. When you start becoming more and more successful, people around you become evil as evil can possibly be, and you learn who your true friends really are. And then you also learn who is never really a friend,

but they really want free stuff. But it is unsurprising. I mean, I should say it was surprising to me to discover how many people that you think are your friends turn out to be just extremely evil. But imagine one day you don't just earn your way into it and experience it slowly over time where you're like, I can't believe someone would do that to me. This is crazy and then after five years of you you know continually being wealthy and successful you're like i get it i gotta be on guard and hire lawyers and have police have security guards imagine one day you're working class and next thing you're worth 900 million dollars knives out all the evil people instantly at once draw their blades for you it's it's i just want to make a really quick

point here i dated a girl who who won the lottery and she was like, I wish I never won it because it ripped her family apart. And a lot of people who win the lottery, they're miserable because of it, and they lose the money very quickly as well. What did she win, like millions or something? Yeah, tens of millions. Aaron Carter, the younger brother of Nick Carter from the Backstreet Boys, just died. And you'll see a lot of this. And, I mean, again, coming from L.A., you you see a lot of people that come into fame quickly. And there's two different types of people that come into fame. It's, you know, someone like, you know,

pretty much you guys at this table where you've had to kind of earn your way up and it's kind of a grind. But some people sort of get plucked up by the establishment and they get put into a fame, you know, and they do have talent. I'm not trying to say that it's binary. They do have talent, but they get plucked up so quickly and put into fame so quickly well he was nine when he did his first video that's what i'm saying right and so what can happen is that um uh they get hooked on drugs they get too many fake friends around them they get they get ungrounded and in personal growth and in self-help the biggest thing they talk about all the time is that if you win the lottery it just destroys your life you have to actually have the psyche of somebody who's wealthy to be able to maintain it i'm 100 sure i could

handle it you guys ready for something someone just super chatted this to me jay wood shout out trump was born during a blood moon june 14th no no check it out here it is on wikipedia 1946 check it out born donald j trump june 14th 1946 i looked it up june. June 14th, 1946 lunar eclipse. Right there. And there it is. The blood moon. That could be why he could announce today. That could be why he could be announcing today.

He's going to announce at 3 a.m. He's going to talk nonstop. At 3 a.m. he'll be like, did the moon change yet? I'm running, everybody. He's still talking right now. I'm watching him talk right now. Anyway, back to the lottery stuff is interesting. Well, it's also a psyche of being at the effect, right? It's like these shows that pluck up the average person and make them famous or things like that, or reality TV, or taking people that aren't that talented and making them famous.

It's more of this idea that the establishment, like you're at the effect of life, then the big establishment, which is kind of like this sort of like pimp hole relationship, they come up, they pluck you up, and then they make you famous. The way to get success is not by grinding it out. It's by just being this like perfectly compliant person, then they'll just pluck you up and then they make you famous the way to get success is not by grinding it out it's by just being this like perfectly compliant person then they'll just pluck you up and make you famous if harvey weinstein's happy with you you're gonna get the role exactly right all right if les wexner is happy with you you're gonna get that modeling gig at victoria's secret you know if mr epstein or mr clinton are happy with you you might get that good political job you know in the white house it's also a lot of bad governments get elected because people are in that kind of

psychology. So one of the biggest things to actually changing what kind of governments get elected is teaching people to think for themselves. I think that's actually the battle of the coming century is teaching people to think for themselves, teaching them not to use groupthink as a easy out to thinking. And when you take someone, especially like a child, and you make them like a Disney star, you see horrible ramifications when you do that when you just throw them into fame and these parents that just give their child to these den of vipers

in hollywood seriously i mean when you look at hollywood there's a lot of you know we're talking about spiritual stuff there's a lot of satanic evil devilish elements inside of hollywood and and and in washington dc where of course the biggest amount of psychopaths kind of coalesce, and then they prey on the innocent. They take people, and then they bring them into, and they give them all this money and all this fame. They can't handle it. And then they prey on their weaknesses and their mistakes. And that's the entire establishment industry that we're dealing with right now.

There are a lot of parents, though, who intentionally exploit their children for various financial gain. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. But they it not just in hollywood they do it all over the place like duane wade you know yeah like duane reid yeah like the is being accused of with being accused with his model child right his yeah i think he's also just very bought into a certain narrative duane wade seems like a very gabriel union helped yeah like duane wade looks like an exceedingly positive person but i think he's very bought into a very... I think Gabriel Union helped. Yeah, like Dwayne Wade looks like an exceedingly positive person, but I think he's very bought into a certain narrative. I think so too.

I also, I've recently been like, I think there's an issue with stepmothers. I know there's some good stepmothers, but I think that, I think it's an issue. I don't know, I've been thinking about that myself. The crazy thing I would tell people about stuff like lottery wins, it used to be that people would lose the money really, really fast. They would waste it on insane things and their lives would be destroyed by it.

Recently, because of documentaries talking about this, people have instantly started going to financial advisors and then getting things set up in order. But the one thing you can't advise away from is humanity. That it's not even about, you can't like, I'll tell you, man, if you won $929 million, that actually sounds nightmarish. You're going to have people trying to kill you. You're not going to, so like we get this all the time with death threats, swattings, bomb threats. It's just, it's nuts. Imagine not having any

experience with it, not having dealt with this level of insanity. And all of a sudden, one day overnight, it's like, oh, someone's going to try and kill you. Actually, tons of people are gonna try and kill you. They know where you live. They announced you won. Good luck. Or they just become infatuated by you and then want to love you and become so centered on you that they make you the focus of their life and then they become destructive in that way. But one of the smartest things that I saw was an announcement for someone who won the lottery and he decided to wear the scream mask and he's literally getting the check because some lotteries make you have the photo, make you, of course, sign a lot of documents, do a lot of PR, do a lot of news interviews. He says,

I'm not doing any of that. I'm putting on a mask. He was photographed with the mask. And it's one of the smartest things that I've ever seen. Yeah, the anonymous. I'm anonymous. He's like, I don't want family members bothering me. I'll help my family. People think happiness is about a certain amount of money. It's really about having a beautiful ecosystem, purpose in life, and great friends and stuff. And so if you're in an ecosystem of people that aren't used to that kind of wealth, and that's who you're surrounded by, there's this thing we called an RAS flip. So it's reticular activation system. It actually explains why people on the left or the right see the world

differently. It's called RAS, reticular activation system. It's selective focus. We see the world very, very differently. We don't believe what we see. We see what we believe. And so we have very, very selective focus. So if Tim, you mentioned that you had a lot of people turn evil on you as you got success. I had a similar experience. It's actually heartbreaking and it's confusing as hell if you've never experienced it. And so what happens is that-

And like, they don't ask for anything. They just instantly become evil. It's crazy. It's terrifying. And it's some of your best friends. And it's not even that they've hurt you. It's that real friends stab you in the back and it's dehumanizing.

And it's not about politics. Like, obviously, for political reasons, people are at odds today. But in my experience, it's like, for literally no reason. Maybe it's not about politics. Like obviously for political reasons, people are at odds today. But in my experience, it's like for literally no reason, maybe it's jealousy. Yeah, it's so what it is, it's called an RAS flip.

So basically as your value changes, what they see in you changes. So reticular activation system, just look this up. I would advise anybody to look this up and selective focus. Once you get this, you see why people see the world differently.

We have very, very selective focus. We don't believe what we see. We see what we believe and what it's like if you have a breakup with a significant other and at first they idealize you because they're getting something from you later in a breakup they like say that there was a hundred experiences let's just be round number right 98 of them are positive two are negative well then when they like you they focus on the 98 positive then if you break up and it hurts then they focus more on the two negative ones and rs flip a year, you forget the bad things, start to remember all the good things

and then wonder why you broke up. A hundred percent. And so, and that's why it's human to do that. But you're getting that same effect as you've gained success. That's why you've seen that. People are having RES flips. They're seeing things differently.

Once you study this and you basically understand RES, it clarifies the time. It's like, what about, have you seen anything like that? Absolutely. Time and time again, we were just talking about this yesterday. And it's real. A lot of people have this kind of illusion. A lot of people are hypnotized that money and fame are something that is everything in life. When in reality, it's usually a burden more than it is a gift to anything else.

Unless you grow into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But essentially, when people just focus just on that and not the journey and not their life and not the experiences and not the loved ones that they have around them and they just focus, I want money, I want money, I want fame, I want fame.

They destroy everything in their pathway. And when they do get it, they're more miserable than anyone else. Yeah, the Bhagavad Gita, which is a major Eastern text, talks about the process being everything or Eckhart Tolle, Power of Now, it's about being present, being in the now,

the process itself. The Bible, they talk about the same thing. Dowdaging, they talk about the same thing. The beauty of life is in the present moment, the unfolding of the journey, the energy. And money is a great thing too, but it's just one component. Yes, absolutely.

But keep it all a secret. If you win that 1.9 billion, that's all I can say is whatever. Don't tell anybody about it. Yeah, don't tell anybody. But you know what the problem is? That people are inexperienced with this stuff. So they want to tell people,

they don't get it. They don't understand it. And they don't have the money managers, so the government and the state takes, what, 52% of all of it? Do what Bill Gates does. Get a nonprofit, get an organization that you run,

donate all the money there, and then you can do whatever you want with the money. Nah, it's sort of. Well, you could double your wealth, just like Bill Gates did. Didn a nonprofit. Get an organization that you run. Donate all the money there, and then you can do whatever you want with the money. Nah, it's sort of. Well, you could double your wealth, just like Bill Gates did. Didn't this happen to MC Hammer? Remember? MC Hammer, Mike Tyson.

Yeah, he lost all his money. Mike Tyson lost all of his money. A lot of pro athletes. One of my staff who got very wealthy very quickly, he actually blew all his money. He used to call it hammer time. When he got to blow all his money, he called it hammer time.

He'd say, I MC hammered all my money. He MC hammered about a million dollars. Wow. Wow. He's okay. He's made's made it back but yeah he had a fun year it's crazy man it really is nuts and it's not it's not it's not about money you know it's just like if crabs in a bucket maybe jealousy i don't know it's the res flip it's your value changes and then they it tweaks their perception of you but why would that go negative um it's the res flip it's your value changes and then they it tweaks their perception of you but why would that go negative um it's this is a really deep topic but it okay simple version would be um it it kind of hijacks the part of the brain that's very in the physical and so you want to think of it like mind body and soul right and so it gets them kind of into their body the body is inherently kind of sociopathic if you look at like a nature documentary the animals are killing each

other eating each other look at the ocean the fish are eating each other so people can kind of go into that mode and it's unfortunate because politicians actually manipulate this right if you can keep everybody in that kind of primitive mode then you can get them voting in bad policies this is why critical thinking and personal growth is going to be the major battle the next 100 years i think so weird though like why don't they feel that way about Obama? Because he's placating them. But how? I mean, like, look, my point is this. When I say that people turn evil, it's like without rhyme or reason.

People in my life. What's an example? Just, I'll try and give a light example. Some guy I've known since I was a teenager. We used to hang out all the time, skate together. We were roommates briefly. Just instantly started smack-talking me online, lying about everything, going to people and trying to – I don't know. I think that may have been like, hey, they thought maybe they could get famous or something by claiming they knew me. So what it is is that in personal growth, we would say that we live in the same physical reality but we live in parallel energetic realities and so what's happened

is you've entered into a different energetic reality and they're just living in a different reality it's like if you took somebody homeless and you bring them into a mansion they're probably they might still be doing drugs in the bathroom right they're not just gonna be looking at the view so what happened is you created a disconnect with them even if you work with people and then you keep elevating and they're not, you'll see there's a natural split. It just can't hold together. But my point is like, why doesn't a person hold the negative view of other high status

people, especially high status people who are like deeply involved in controversial things? Because you're close to them, right? But it's almost like what amount of money would have to be on this table before you'd get uncomfortable would it be like if there's a billion if there was a you might not because you're a principled person but if there was a billion dollars sitting right there would you start getting any adrenaline or no no okay well there's a point where everybody okay well it's just money what would be so much value to you that if it was sitting right there you you'd start to be like, whoa, nothing.

I don't understand. So you're a very, very, very principled person. I don't understand what you mean. What do you mean? Well, there's a point where people just go crazy, right? So it's like, what's people's breaking point to where they'll break their principles? So one hobby that I have, I run seminars, is usually they try to kick me out about midnight. And so I'll go to the person that wants to shut down the room and I'll say, could I stay a bit longer? They're like, no, no, I can't.

I say, what about if I give you 20 bucks? And they're like, no, no, I can't. And then I say, what if I give you 500 bucks? And then they're like no no i can't i say what about if i give you 20 bucks and they're like no no i can't and then i say what if i give you 500 bucks and then they're like oh of course you know just stay here so they they crack the average person's principles cracks under pressure um but the reason why you've been independently successful is you have strong principles so they may not have had that opportunity or focus on personal evolution they probably never had that discussion with themselves your principles in the first place that's amazing that you've done that's amazing you've done that but the average person the average person is not doing that they're not taught to they're taught to look at tiktok i think it's i

think it's an issue of confidence too i mean if someone like so look i worked for a big evil media corporation they said lie i said no and they were like play ball i was like no and they're they offered me a lot of money i was like i don't don't care, dude. You know, look, I have confidence in myself and I know what I need. And so I guess the issue is perhaps some people are evil and some people aren't. And the evil activates only in certain capacities. That is when presented with power that they could gain. So for me, you know, if I was the way I often describe it is if you're buck naked in the middle of the woods, that's baseline. That's zero. You have nothing. But you're actually not dying.

You're just, you know, you're slowly heading towards a dark place. Now, if you're buck naked in the middle of the woods, you got a pointy stick. Now you're up. You're up one. So you actually got something there for all of us here in this country, we're at like 17 million. Because even as poor as you are, you've got, you're standing on a street corner. The government's going to give you, you got clean running water available to you. You walk into McDonald's, you get clean running water.

You've got government services up the wazoo. They're just giving people free stuff. So it's like, we are so far detached from baseline in this country there was no i you're rich just being here that's how that's how i i've always seen it i think that makes sense but i feel like that too like when you walk into the grocery store do you ever walk into the grocery like uh so i used to do a lot of acid and i would go to the grocery and i would be like all right ian well whatever but i'd go to the grocery store and I'd be like, the bounty here is unbelievable. I mean, it's just so glorious.

And when you look at that, when you look at how much we have in this country, it's very humbling. And I think that has a lot to do with it. So that is gratitude. So that's beautiful that your state of consciousness experiences gratitude.

Many people do not experience gratitude. It's not just that. Tim, you were saying maybe some people are just evil. And I think very fully that all of us are capable of being the most evil, horrible people that the world has ever seen. And you have to recognize this. You have to recognize your capability for total horror, for total evil, to be just the worst person possible. And then you have to be like, okay, I am capable of this. We are all capable of this. That's a very humbling place to be just the worst person possible. I don't think so. And then you have to be like, okay, I am capable of this. We are all capable of this.

That's a very humbling place to be. And then you go about not being it. And you find the light. I completely disagree. And you go with the light. I don't think every person is capable of evil. Perhaps a lot of people are. I think that evil is inherent.

I mean, I think that it can take us. I don't. I think there's sociopaths, and I think a lot of people can't even justify or rationalize and understand what the bigger politicians and people in charge are doing because they can't see themselves doing it themselves. I see what you guys are saying, but I'll see

what you're... You can see, like, when you see people that you love, right, when you see people who you love treat other people just absolutely evilly and with horror, like, just horribly. And and with horror like just horribly and you know like i love this person this person is capable of love and they're treating this other person who i also care about like so terribly you can see how badly this can turn out you can see how they i disagree i think i think what you're talking about is a disowned shadow right so you're saying

to recognize that in yourself you have to recognize that in yourself and beat it. You have to recognize that. And beat it. Yeah, well, you just have to be humble in the face of that. You just have to know what you're capable of, both in glory and... I think you're confusing things. Yeah, I don't think so. So if you...

So typically, when you have like a family member mistreating a family member, they don't think they're a bad guy mistreating a family member. They might... Like maybe you've got a dad who's yelling at your sister.

Well, the dad is yelling at her and and uh i'm talking about in a typical family context not an abusive context like if if there's a father who is mercilessly beating his child congratulations you found the evil person right i don't think every human is capable of being that way i think every human is capable of it i don't think every i don't think every human succumbs to it i don't think far you know i but i think that everyone is capable of being a monster in some form or another. I think everyone is capable of that. Yeah.

I think some people are and some people aren't. I think some people are completely incapable of being that monster. Well, there's also something called Cluster B, right? Which is anti-personality disorder, narcissistic, borderline, all that stuff. That whole thing. Yeah. So there's levels to all of this, right? There's levels to trauma that you've experienced as a kid your upbringing um the

fact that you know 100 years ago people might be reading the bible they're probably not now there's there's a lot to this it's a very topic perhaps the argument is you're saying people many people have evil within them and they have to fight against those urges i think that would describe people who have evil within them but But I think there are certainly people who aren't evil. I think that it's... And don't have a hard time resisting those. I think that you are at greater risk of succumbing to evil if you don't recognize the human susceptibility to it. I guess what I'm saying is I think some people are evil.

And perhaps many of them resist the urges to be evil and do evil. And there's varying degrees to which they are suppressed from that. Some is by threat of physical force against them. Why they don't go into the great grocery store full of bounty and just take whatever they want is they know someone will tackle them and they'll get arrested. Well, not these days. Now they just take it. And that's because some people are willing to engage in acts of, let's say, outright selfishness, except for physical deterrent. Some people have social emotional deterrent, meaning they're scared they will be shunned

and ridiculed if they do it. Some people just genuinely don't want to do it. Right. And you, but you're capable of it, even if you don't want to do it. I'm saying, I think you're confusing the action with like the desire, which is what I'm talking about. I'm saying someone who has absolutely no desire to commit evil is – I guess they could decide one day like I've never tried evil. But then they're clearly capable.

What about the low-level flunkies and authoritarian states who go ahead and commit the evil acts on behalf of the authority in their country and they just do it anyway? Perhaps. Like when you look at the low-level Nazi. Yeah, it's banality of evil. Yeah. That's evil. Yeah. And there was one guy who crossed his arms and refused to salute Hitler.

Yeah. I don't think every single person is capable. He didn't go for it, but you're capable of it, even if you don't go for it. I think you're making the argument about, the disconnect we're having is that you're making an argument about the physical capabilities versus what I'm saying is the internal desires. Correct. Yeah, you don't have to have the desire. There's clearly a range of people.

Again, some people cluster B, some people traumatize, some people selfish. Some people are more inclined towards it than others. One thing that I will say that I agree with you a lot is that some people that I've met in my life, they're like, oh, I could never do that. I could never do that. And then they totally do it. So it would have actually served them to have that conversation with themselves that you're talking about.

Well, I think it's important to have that conversation i'm not talking about uh physical capability i'm talking about internal desire some people have no internal desire and are not at risk of being evil people well i think even if you don't have the desire you can still be at risk of it there's something beautiful when you recognize how good it makes you feel to be altruistic to have integrity to add value and then what starts to happen when you recognize that and you have a transformation there then you actually lose those good feelings when you do bad things so you actually have an internal regulation because you realize that you're contracting and shrinking when you act like that so you and you can actually

take very dark people and expose them to that and they can have a change but they'll they'll often resist it though yeah they can have Yeah, because we're all capable of that as well. That's kind of what I meant about some people from earlier in the conversation, even if they're not going to do it, but always a chance. So I guess the way I see it is there are some people who, you know, in my experience have been like, that's really cool, man. Like, I hope things are great. I have one friend who is like very lefty and like still one of my best friends and they're just like i don't care about anything else like you you're you're my friend and like we don't really ever talk about any hardcore political stuff even though i see what their posts on social media are and there are some people who are like legit hangout everyday best friends who were never political and then all of a sudden we're like oh

now's my chance to get famous and make money i I'm like, clearly one person is evil and one person is not. And the person I see as not evil is political with lefty values, but they're based on ignorance. So there's, you know, they're not, I'll put it this way. They're not overtly political going out and joining activist rows or anything. They're just posting memes and stuff and they don't know better. And so I suppose in that sense, you could say there's a capability of the banality of evil, which I understand and would agree with. But I think there are certainly people who are legitimately and genuinely evil. Maybe the better way to put it is, yes, everybody is capable of

evil, but there are some people who are downright evil and only being stopped by committing evil acts due to fear of physical suppression. I think that's true, too. Your analysis, too, of like some people, physical suppression, some people ridicule, some people have ethics and morals and there's a range of different people. But like a lack of desire

to be evil. You know, there's some people who are just like, I have no interest whatsoever in hurting anyone. But you know what's funny about that? There's even a range to that,

I think. Jordan Peterson talks about this where it's like, you see some of these people that are very, very passive, like they're very, very chill, but then they're the same people that will vote for a lockdown right so it's one of these things where um jordan peterson will say that you have to be dangerous to even be trustworthy like be

dangerous but then don't use it so it's one of these things where how much proactive consciousness does someone even have in their mind maybe how much are they even in touch with their own thinking as opposed to groupthink i think maybe we're defining evil differently i suppose but it's interesting to think about like somebody who would be you know pro lockdown right and they're just kind of passive and they're not really digging into it like i don't know it's all good like like when i see people that are easily bent i don't trust them people that are easily bent scare me because they're the people that will be weaponized by some psycho and then and then what the psycho will do is shift the overton window to say oh this is good and this is bad and then the

passive people are just like okay just follow in orders and like to me that's evil i view it i view it like this in in the way you mentioned it like what amount of value on the table would make you uneasy and for me it's like literally none like like there could be you know billions of dollars and i just be like i don't know yeah but you're an exceedingly prince i mean i mean you luke like and i'm just getting to know you but i bet you you are the same from what i can tell you like luke has run into riots in hong kong you know with a gas mask on to go reveal the truth that's not an average person you've done similar types of things that's a very different type of person like there is no

circumstance at any point where if i found a wallet in it i would take the cash out and chuck the wallet no so i'm the same way so why are you like that i don't know because i don't know there's reasons though because i don't like i somebody needs that wallet back yeah it's also that you understand that that you're being a piece of crap and that would lower your self-esteem it's not just that it's like i've been homeless before you know so you have a higher degree of empathy between the sociopathy it's not even that it's like dude your money does nothing for me it moves me in no way so maybe what you're saying is that once you reach financial abundance you have no no no i'm saying that like i don't want to be involved with you i'm saying that i would rather dig through the dirt to find bugs

to eat than have anything to do with you like i don't want to be responsible for other people i don't want to take for them and be responsible for their misfortunes misdeeds or fortunes leave me alone let me do my thing i'll figure it out so for you it's about self-efficacy it's about it's it's it's about in in infringing upon another person i don't want the responsibility i don't want to i don't i don't i don't want to hold your kid like you come with your baby i'll be like i i your kid is very beautiful very cute i'm very happy for you i don't want that responsibility sorry i just so you just really really like to do your own thing i like to be left alone and i don't want to be responsible for other people.

And then it's an interesting predicament, you know, running a company and having to be, because that's a natural part of reality. But my point is, like, I would rather be homeless, foraging for food, than stealing someone's wallet or exploiting their misfortune. For me, I wouldn't take the wallet because I think life is a test on your morality, and you will be judged based on your behaviors. So that's why I wouldn't do it personally myself. And to add to the context of what you were saying here, MLK always, of course, has this famous quote saying, in the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends. And I think that's where you're kind of getting into and talking a little bit.

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Maybe it's another movie, too, but that works for Donnie Darko, that that that maybe it's another movie too but that works for donnie darko too right that was quite a film yeah raymond g stanley jr says tim blood moon last time 175 days barbie pooch discovered 183 days okay u.s dollar official bifocals invented pay money for bifocals okay uh someone mentioned may 16th the last blood moon was when sweden and uh declared the end of their neutrality they'd be joining nato that's wild i saw you pull that well yeah yeah very interesting zoror graft zoror graft the blood moon is an omen of war in most cultures. I believe this election will be the official lines in the sand.

Then war will begin. The scary thing here is this article the Bulwark wrote. They said, long story short, poll watchers from both sides are at a polling station. Someone thinks someone's doing something untoward. Scuffle breaks out. Fight breaks out. Someone gets shot. That's their scenario. I go a little bit further and say

if they do, they shut down the polling location, and then there's lawsuits over whether or not you can actually have the election if a polling location is shuttered, and maybe violence happens all over. It could, you know, there could be, like, we saw, we saw this kind of demonstrated in V for Vendetta. One life lost sparks an entire outrage.

We saw it also with George Floyd. So anything could happen in one instant and really blow things up in a very bad way. TwoFail says, I've been posting losing my mind everywhere I can, including the Discord server for Studio Fowl. Remember them? I got a temporary ban for shared content

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with the same concept as Losing My Mind, uploaded a few weeks ago. I didn't think you were trolling. I thought you were being serious. Yeah. The line says, Tim, make us a 3x5 stand your ground flag. I'll hang it you were trolling. I thought you were being serious. The line says, Tim, make us a 3x5 stand your ground flag. I'll hang it from the front of the garage. Love the design. Would buy a Velcro patch for my vest

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a chance to escape. That's right. Yeah, they won't give up. They will rush into battle knowing they will die if it means that the hens have even but an extra second to escape. How about that? Very noble. Be like the noble rooster. Refuse to back down. You must stand.

Voice of the People says you cannot stand on moral high ground with those that have no morals. The only way they learn is to do to them what they do to you. The only difference is to stop when they learn as they would keep attacking. Let's see. Duncan Chestnut says you don't neutralize an acid with water. Use a base. Sometimes you got to dish it back a little to bring it back all to the center my attitude is just people who are actively trying to destroy free speech get no sympathy from me when they get censored for violating the rules they advocated

for i think it's just simple and i don't want to apply my principles to other people have you ever read the sermon on the mount in the bible that'd be interesting what's it about um talks all about this oh great detail and what and what does it say well it's this is really really heady stuff right so you can see that the surface he talks about forgiveness and it doesn't seem practical on the surface but it's coming from a mindset that dark energy is infecting the world and that if we keep amplifying it by kind of reacting back and forth that it grows so there's a way to absorb it but still exert leadership that could remove that energy and then bring peace. And that's a big part of the Sermon on the Mount. X says, Tim, your vengeful cancellation is off right. Wrong. I have not called for a vengeful cancellation. I have not called for the banning of my enemies. I have

simply said the people who have sought to destroy free speech will get no advocacy from me. That's neutrality on the issue. Whereas other people who have made nasty political arguments, even those against me, I would advocate for their restoration. My point is, if you come out and call me dumb and insult me and say I'm stupid and have bad ideas, and then you get banned for it, I'll be like, no, no, no, no, no. Come on, come on, come on. They're allowed to say those things. People in the chat who insult me all day and night, I'll say, no, no, they're allowed to

do it. The only rule we have is against spamming because that's actually anti-speech. It makes it impossible for people to communicate. So we have anti-spam as a rule. Anything that seeks to silence people's ability. Someone who is seeking to silence the ability of people to speak actively and encouraging it, I will not call for them to be banned. They're allowed to advocate for it. When they do get banned because of their own rules, I will not advocate for their restoration. So it's not revenge. It's just I'm not getting involved. All right. Carlos Danger says,

Yep, yep. I mean, those are politicians you can believe in right there. Great running. Derek Gentry says Libby is wrong. That thinking is why liberals keep winning. You can't sit on your hands while five people are hitting you and expect to win. I said that was pacifism. What was?

That's what pacifism is. Yeah, I don't think you backed that. I think you just defined what it was. Yeah, that is what pacifism is. That would be like the Quaker view. They use our principles to gain power, then abuse us with that power. We must fight back, and we all know if you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck. Yeah, I think of it like borders, right?

I believe in borders. Because if you don't have strong borders, you don't have a country. That's literally what defines. I think we talked about this before, I can't remember which one it was, but nation and country are different. A nation is a people with shared ideas, morals, or something like that. Or is it the other way around? I don't know, they're different meanings. One involves specifically that there is a border delineating where these ideas persist. If you have no borders and anyone can come, then your culture eventually

dissolves. You can't enforce your own laws. Someone could like run in and anyone can come, then your culture eventually dissolves. You can't enforce your own laws. Someone could like run in, smack you and then run out. And it's like, I guess if you don't believe in borders, you could go over there and arrest them or something. But you need to be able to be like, this is the area that we defend where we uphold our rights. Over there, we have no power, no control, and we're not going to impose our power on you. That's why I am anti-interventionist but anyway let's move on all right zorak graph says both of the guests tonight clearly don't know who ethan klein is like you guys just came into the conversation no no ethan's made videos about me and so sasson and i'm chill with it you don't know

his history and who he is and has always been since he started youtube well i know that he's not a political guy and that he's only involved in politics because it became pop culture. So that's an issue right there. If I'm having a political debate with someone who's involved in politics, yeah, we can disagree and that's fine. We're trying to solve our problems. But somebody whose whole career was edgy comedy and drama videos deciding that politics is a path towards making money and being relevant, that person has no interest in a real conversation. So you can invite them all you want. It's meaningless.

They won't do it. So as he said flat out, you go to LA, he's not going to meet you. I've been ignored by him. And as for Hassan himself, I think I offered, and that was where the conversation ended and didn't move forward. So I don't know exactly what the circumstances there was. Would they do maybe a Zoom one? Didn't Crowder do a Zoom one with them?

Yeah, we don't, we don't, that would be providing, so we don't have any capability for Zoom or Skype here. We actually don't have any cameras that can hook up or be, so like, I actually have, you know, like Andy Ngo and Lauren Southern wanted to come on the show remote. I said, we can't do it. We literally do not have the capability and we're not going to build it. It also became a screaming match, which was a shame, too. What did? I think with Crowder, they were just yelling at each other. Well, because when Ethan agreed to have a conversation with Crowder, he subbed in Sam

Cedar, which is, again, it's all about shock drama. No real conversation. Steven says, Ethan, you want to have a conversation? He says, yes. And then he brings in Sam Cedar, and they turn it into WWE. Well, I know you don't like LA, but I hope to invite you there someday and show you around and hopefully you can meet up with even where i have absolute respect and a refusal to come on the show is that there are also media personalities who are running their own businesses and they're under

no obligation to cancel their shows to come see me and i understand that because i do the same thing granted we have the mobile studio for the purpose to go and try and accommodate that but when i reached out to a couple of these people and said, hey, like, you know, people don't want to come on the show no matter how many times we offer. And it's still to this day, the same circumstance. I invited a politics girl. I don't know if you're familiar.

Said, we'd love to have you on the show and have a real conversation about where we disagree. They hit us back and said, what, you know, what are you thinking? I responded. They just dropped it, ignored us outright. That is how it goes every single time. You are also a very formidable debate opponent. So it's one of these things they might be a little intimidated too i mean maybe i don't really debate you know even even that point you're like maybe you're

very formidable it's probably intimidating okay they're invited to have a come and have a conversation and prove me wrong if i'm wrong about certain things but what ends up happening for the most part is here's what i think happens a lot. People on the right come here and often tell me I'm wrong about something. I may disagree and then find out I'm actually wrong. People on the left come here

and say a whole bunch of things that are wrong and then it gets frustrating when we have to keep pulling up sources to prove that they're wrong. Well, the challenge is that inherently with collectivism is that the truths are oriented

around what will benefit the collective. So it makes it challenging for them to maintain that under scrutiny. Well, so I think, I'll tell you exactly why they won't come on the show. Hunter Avalon. Were you here for that? I wasn't officially

as a co-host then. But you were just as a guest? I was just coming through. I wasn't even supposed to be on. He came on the show. He's a guy who used to be anti-SUW, conservative, and then became liberal after being awakened by liberals or something. We invited him on. I was just like, yeah, sure. It would be great to have somebody on by liberals or something. And I we invited him on just like, yeah, sure.

You know, be great to have somebody on and talk about stuff. And I said, you can watch the episode. I said something like, look, when when when Biden said, you know, if you don't fire the prosecutor, not get the billion dollars, I'm like, quid pro quo. He goes, that didn't happen. And I was like, yeah, it did. It's on videos. No, it didn't.

Biden said it happened. And then I pulled the video up and he watched it he's like i didn't know that and i'm like you're gonna sit here and and talk big about the stuff and you didn't that is a horribly embarrassing moment they know if they come on the show it will be the same thing we've invited even friendly leftists you know look i don't mean to drag shoe on head because i'm a fan. I think she was great. But we invited her to come on with Alex Jones to do a big, funny show. And she agreed. And the last minute she said no. And I will say, I think the reason is she would be forced to agree with most of what Alex Jones had to say. And that would be really, really bad for her. Now, she's anti-establishment, pro-free speech, all these really, really awesome things that I agree with. And I think she's great.

She calls out the left on a lot of stuff. But it is challenging, even if you're in an any even left libertarian space to be seen on camera with Alex Jones. There are a few other leftists that we're fans of. And I'm not going to try. The only reason I bring up she was because that one we've already publicly talked about and people have tweeted about it. There's a few other leftists who invited who we like and we're fans of who have said the same thing. I can't appear on a show with people like that. It's like, okay, I get it. You don't want to, your principles are not as important as you looking bad for your peers. But it's also that inherently in collectivism, they warp the truth to try to benefit the collective. So it makes it hard to debate against somebody like you because you're just like a very

practical person. Like, I just want to be left alone. I want to know the truth. They have a truth that are based on what they perceive as the collective benefit so then it makes it very difficult to debate everybody has varying degrees of collectivism that's true you know the right has their has is to a lesser degree but they certainly do have it especially the 90s oh yeah i mean but but these days there's a weird merger of like a lot of a lot of i think a lot of ron paul libert, they went to Occupy Wall Street. They ended up becoming MAGA. They want to leave the world alone, focus on America, work hard, mind our own business.

Let's read more Super Chats. Michael Irwin says, Blood Moon tomorrow looks like even God is voting red, lol. Also, no notification and bad to search for you tonight. Had to search for you to find it. You know, there you go, man. All right. Ethan Sacco says, Ethan Klein gives Ethans around the world a bad name.

Let's come up with a new name for him in the comment section. H3H3. How about that one? What do you call him? What is his brand name? There you go. I say L3L3. L3L3?

L3L3, yeah. For like lose? Yeah, basically. All right. Toxic Way says, Tim, what you say about adding credibility meter to verified accounts, something akin to NewsGuard?

Absolutely not. I disagree. I think the gesture cap or some kind of comedy icon, NewsGuard has that. It's a theater mask in orange. So if you go to a parody site, it tells you it's a parody site.

I actually like that. Or, you know, tell them who the advertisers are. You know, Big Pharma sponsors 80% of this news outlet. You should know that. That would actually be very useful. That's a great idea. Yeah, yeah. Have transparency with where the money's coming from so we know that they're not going to

bite the hand that feeds them. That would have been very useful during the pandemic in New York with the New York Times. Some people have asked what's going on with our fact-checking news thing. We're filing. Truth in Media Foundation. And we're going to do articles, fact-checking, things like that. And it takes a really long time to organize. It's incredible.

So I think we got the last bit of the paperwork in. But we go back and forth with the government to certify a nonprofit and do all this stuff, so it is what it is, but that's a really good idea. Yeah. A browser extension that not only fact-checks, but shows you who their sponsors are, and it can break down, like,

we randomly sampled 100 ads, 100 articles, we fact-checked them, and these are the ads that were posted. Bill Gates paid for this much of these articles. You know, oh, there's a great article about Bill Gates. Hold on. That's private information. That's harder. What we can do is say 17% displayed ads

from the Google network, which were algorithmic. 17% were Coca-Cola, 7% were Pfizer, 23% were Depends diapers, whatever. But Bill Gates spends hundreds of millions of dollars investing it specifically in the corporate media that reports on him as some kind of great savior. Coincidence. I thought that video you posted this morning was crazy with the CIA guy from the 80s. It was Glenn. I think. No, no, no. Snowden. Edward Snowden from Russia.

I think I saw it when you shared it. But I've talked about this. It's exactly what I said. I said this a couple months ago that what happens is. That's true. I said this a month ago, not even that. Or a couple weeks ago yeah we had a conversation that's a long ago the government goes to these young journalists and says i'm gonna be your source now they do it for influencers too right and now all of a sudden you have this young journalist who's writing for say like business insider with like an entry-level position starts writing some articles claiming

trump is involved with russia or. The editor at the company gets like, wow, how are you getting this? I got a government source. The government goes to a young person who's too stupid to realize they're being fed BS. The newspaper doesn't care because, hey, it came from a legitimate government source so we can run it. We can't be sued. Then we get a bombshell story and make money.

Then this person gets promoted. They get hired by a bigger outlet. Then they get put on TV. And they still have their same garbage source. That's right. Yeah. Fake news from the intelligence agencies. Like the New York Times. They're like, oh, yeah, WMDs in Iraq.

100%, yeah, anonymous source. Track Media Only says, allowing Ethan and Kathy back on Twitter is like a cashless bail. They've already had third and fourth chances, if not more, and you still want to let them out. Yes, but only insofar as they're actively destroying free speech.

Like Milo, Alex Jones, you should be allowed back on even if you broke the rules. However, what I'm saying is if you advocate that people should not be allowed back on, I will not advocate for you to be allowed back on. I'm not saying you shouldn't be allowed back. I'm saying I'm not going to intervene. That's all you, man. You will not get any favors from me. But it could be a gesture of goodwill that could maybe potentially, I'm being very

optimistic here, and maybe even fascist, maybe he's like, wow, these guys are actually fighting for me when I was such a, you know, bad word against them. Who is that guy in Philly? It was a Soros DA. They fought to get him out of jail. Who, Krasner? No. No, no, no. There is that guy in Philly? It was a Soros DA. They fought to get him out of jail. Who, Krasner?

Was it Krasner? No, no, no. There was a guy in prison. They fought to get him out of prison. It may have been Krasner. They fought to get him out of prison because they were like, do you,

what did Fetterman say about this? He said, do you think Morgan Freeman in Shawshank Redemption should die in prison? Because there are a lot of people in prison who, you know, should be let out.

They let this guy out. He kills again. Yep. So so it's kind of like you think these people are going to change their ways they show you who they are i mean kamala harris uh funded a bail fund that let a guy out who then went on to kill people more you know it's like what happened we have a very important super chat here matthew uh matthew schneider says trump is really an uchiha and the blood moon is his sukiyomi he's to get people to vote republican he's still speaking right i have to i have to i have to explain this everybody yeah he's not even bouncing stuff off other people he's just talking the whole time i have to explain this to people who don't understand uh uchiha is a clan in naruto who have eyes called the sharingan which means in japanese copy wheel eye and the sukiyomi is a clan in naruto who have eyes called the sharingan which means in japanese copy wheel eye

and the tsukiyomi is a powerful technique that allows them to hypnotize you and by portraying his eye on the moon it can make everyone in the world hypnotized and follow and that's basically the plot of naruto so there you go that was the that was the esoteric joke for those that didn't get it. All right. Let's see where we're at. Dreams of a Strange Man says, Hey, Luke. Hey, Luke will hate this. I searched chicken on Walmart's app, and most of it was canned and crap, and some of the search results were dried black soldier fly larva.

It's disgusting. I had to scroll way down to get fresh chicken. Why would Luke hate that? I like fresh food. Oh, okay. Real food and beef liver. Wally Higgins says, Tim is right.

You should not advocate on behalf of people who hate you. You should not compromise with people that hate you. It's a losing strategy. Yeah. Lizard says, the blood moon also means

that vampires are coming in Romania. In Romanian traditions, beware. Vampires are coming. Tax agents? Yeah. The IRS is going to come out. It'd be funny if Biden came out in Romanian traditions beware vampires are coming tax agents yeah the IRS is gonna come out it'd be funny

if Biden came out and they announced or it'd be funny it was Kamala that in order to make things more efficient the IRS would only be coming out at night

in the wee hours of the morning and they can't enter your house unless you give them permission wow sounds like vampires that sounds like a that sounds like a rule I would get behind

they're just waiting outside your door and like, get out of here. They're like, give us your money. No. Okay, where are we at? Big super chat. Thank you. Appreciate it. Jen Desai says, did you see the American flags blow down at Fetterman Rally and the double

rainbow for Mastriano? Now the Maga Moon. That was pretty funny. There was a double rainbow for Mastriano. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That was pretty funny. There was a double rainbow for Mastriano. Yeah. And those flags just went right down. And I think Trump was speaking at that same rally. Trump's still speaking? He's still speaking right now. I'm watching the live stream.

He's going to announce. He's got to. He's been going for so long. When did he start? It's been an hour. At least since the first time you pulled it up. Maybe. That guy can talk for a long time. He loves it. He's crazy about it.

Yeah, he gets a lot of power from the crowds. Shannon says, playing the lottery is a tax on people who can't do math. I disagree. It's all about being responsible with gambling. If you buy a quick pick once a week because it's fun and you're like, you know, you want to look at the numbers and it's really exciting to see the numbers get counted, that's totally fine.

You know, people say, oh, the lottery's a tax on stupid people. No, gambling exploits people who have gambling problems. But I go to the casino fairly often. We do. We go every so often. And it's like, you go to the casino, you set a budget of how much you want to play with

and then you have entertainment and if you're lucky some of these casinos offer free drinks so you're basically like my drinks are paid for as i gamble so i'm basically spending money on the night to just have fun and sometimes you get a little extra money sometimes you break even sometimes you lose you tend to lose i lost 80 in las vegas that way but i also had seven drinks so i mean there you go but it's also like don't go to a casino thinking you're gonna win a million dollars you go there to hang out and feel the excitement of like are you gonna get a blackjack oh I got it everyone cheers and it's fun or you get like trips in poker or something I also watched somebody lose literally I think like eighteen thousand

dollars sitting next to me and it was terrifying yeah and terrifying it's also a good lesson I'm not doing that yeah so I look at the lottery and it's like, bro, if you make like 20 bucks an hour and then you spend your entire paycheck on lottery tickets like that, that's a problem. But I'm not going to advocate for the government to stop you from being able to do it. But if you go and you today I saw a guy, he put 10 bucks down and it was five games, five quick picks. And I'm like, that's that's that's fun. He's going to go back and he's going to, you know, sit on the couch and he's gonna be hanging out with his wife or whatever and they're

gonna be smiling and they're like oh just having that dream and then they're gonna go back to their lives and they're gonna crumple it up in fact winning would probably be worse for him it'd be better for him in the sense that they get health care and be taking care for life but man the emotional turmoil that would come from that win is is scary not everybody can handle it uh rogue gaming says each moon is named three moons per season in a year with 13 full moons one season with four moons has the blue moon it is the second or third out of the uh the four full moons in that season oh interesting i thought the blue moon was the second full moon in one month so that like yeah i don't know Because typically it's like every 28 days, so then every so often you'll get a blue moon,

which is two full moons in one month. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. All right. Let's grab some. I wonder if, you know how in Miami they have like full moon parties? I wonder what their party is for the blood moon. LA too.

There's a lot of full moon parties. I love the world that I've been to that are pretty crazy. That went to one recently in September. It was a lot of fun. All all over the world that I've been to that are pretty crazy. That went to one recently in September. It was a lot of fun. All right. We'll get one more here. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, for Long Show, who you got coming tomorrow? Who do we have coming?

Should we announce? Yeah. That's something crazy. Libby will be here. I'm going to be around. I think. So what I understand is who's coming. Drew Hernandez will be here.

We're excited. Drew's cool. Lisa Reynolds will be coming back. Oh, nice. I love those guys. Both of them. Yeah. Drew Hernandez will be here. We're excited. Drew's cool. Lisa Reynolds will be coming back. Oh, nice. I love those guys. Both of them. Yeah. Mary Morgan will be hanging out.

Then Owen's going to be here as well. Yep. But we're going to have the room full. And then, of course, the entire TimCast crew, whoever wants to come, we're going to be basically hanging out here partying all day. So we'll probably start the stream. We might start it early. Maybe six.

Depending on what happens. Look, if something crazy happens, we'll run up here we'll get something going let's keep an eye on it and call it when we're we're there downstairs so yeah we'll be there down like four or five o'clock hanging out

we'll be paying attention something breaks we're running up here yeah yeah and then we're basically just gonna chill and have people come in and come out and because it's it's it's it's a it's a nail-biter

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I know you weren't too sold on it, but I'll show you something funny. I'll pull out my text message later. I'm just not sold on the meaning. Totally get it. So the thing is, I'm going to show you the text message later, but the video that we were planning to post tonight was all about this topic. And I rarely ever talk about this. It's a video. I shot it in Yellowstone National Park. It's like a one tonight was all about this topic. And I rarely ever talk about this. It's a video.

I shot it in Yellowstone National Park. It's like a one-hour documentary all about the idea of forgiveness. And I was planning to post it before we even came here. And it's perfectly suited. So if you go to Owen Cook Self-Help, Owen Cook Self-Help on YouTube, go subscribe. And there's a ton of incredible personal growth content on there. But specifically, I'm gonna go post this video from Yellowstone.

We shot in a beautiful winter in Lamar Valley in Yellowstone for about almost an hour just on this topic. And I think it's gonna be a perfect follow-up just for what we talked about here. So interesting coincidence there. Thank you guys so much for coming. This was great.

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