Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #655 Biden Vows TO DO NOTHING, CHANGE NOTHING, Then Run Again In 2024 w/Milo Yiannopoulos

Episode Date: November 10, 2022

Tim, Ian, Luke, & Serge join Milo Yiannopolous to discuss Joe Biden claiming he will run again in 2024 and change nothing, Milo explaining why Trump would have an edge over DeSantis in a republican primary, Milo saying he might not return to Twitter despite Elon owning the platform, the dark hidden meanings in Mary Poppins, and Testosterone continuing to plummet in young men. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yesterday was absolutely crazy. We did like a five hour long show. It was a whole lot of fun. And in the end, the Republicans did fairly well. If you were tracking the projections a month or two before all this went down, then you're not surprised by the results. If you were tracking the projections only in the week or two before, you probably thought they were going to do way, way, way better. And, you know, look, I'll say everybody wants to yell and scream red wave because they want to boost morale and get everyone to go and vote. But this is why I was saying things like, don't don't think you're going to win. You need to go out and vote no matter what the polls say. But in the end, it's it's within the parameters of what even 538 projections were up until like two weeks ago when these debates started happening. So right now,

I think we're looking at potentially 224 seats for the Republicans in the House. We're looking at potentially 51 seats, maybe with the runoff. We'll see. Looks like Nevada might flip. There's a few congressional districts we're still looking at potentially that are about to flip. It looks like in Maryland, we may actually see one district flip. And then what do you expect? I mean, Republicans take the House in the midterm. They can launch investigations. They were never going to pass laws. We'll see. But Joe Biden gave a speech. Joe Biden came out and said, I will do nothing. I will change nothing. Everything that's going as bad as it is will continue. Thanks mostly because, well, not a lot could have changed,

but because Democratic voters, they wanted it in places like New York, California. This is the thing that they want. I mean, I can't blame them. They live there. They want it. By all means, you can have it. So we'll talk about that and so much more. We have a lot of election stuff to go through. DeSantis with his double digit lead winning in Florida. Now people are suggesting that he's the frontrunner for 2024 and for the whole presidency, in fact. And the story that I just love, Democrats voted in a dead guy

because they went in and they voted Democrat and the guy was dead. And I feel bad, you know, my condolences to his family or anything, you know, but they voted for a dead guy. So we'll talk about that. Before we get started, head over to timcast.com. Become a member to support our work.

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There you go. Joining us to talk about this and so much more, you heard him laugh. It's Mr. Milo Yiannopoulos. I've never been more petrified. Any? No, no, really. I've been interviewed by very aggressive, intelligent, and hostile people. And you're, of course, a sweetheart.

But I was just introduced. I have a greater understanding of the restrictions under which you operate now. And I was sort of mentally checking off as we talked about the things that I probably shouldn't say. I was just sort of mentally checking off, you know oh okay that's uh yeah so i i don't really have any ways to communicate that don't aggressively violate uh the rules of of of street of youtube and whatever but i've got post i've got post-its um i've made post-its of the most egregious offenses and and you know with with every good intention in the world i'm going to do the best i can to be socially acceptable for you but but i want everybody hearing to realize that we're going to do the members only uncensored show and then you know we'll show the post-its and people by the time that rolls around i'm going

to be so desperate to swear um it's going to be very undignified um like you know the reason we don't like swearing is because people watch what their their kids are in the room or they're listening in the car and they're driving their kids but if you swear we just you know it is what ghastly childhood to be subjected to political commentary could only happen it could only happen in the third world country um civilized people are not so obsessed with politics my love we have a lot to talk about um like with you and everything that you that you've done and been going through and what you're willing to talk about a form of child abuse um no i i look i'm going to do the best i can uh to to stay within the

lines that are terrifying me but yeah i'm i'm um i haven't i don't think i've done an interview for nearly half a decade um wow because uh i just i just realized that i didn't trust myself to color within the lines well we're mostly just going to be talking about what's going on so uh we'll get into it i'm very excited about um this fetterman guy he's um he's he's my new fascination all right well thanks for hanging out we'll talk all about it we also got luke here of course this should be a very interesting show i'm looking forward to it and they voted in a dead guy and john fetterman because democrat voters can relate to him this is going to be a fun show, but this is why I decided to wear

my normalized critical thinking T-shirt, which I think we need more of than ever. If you agree, you can get the T-shirt on thebestpoliticalshirts.com. And because you do, that's why I'm here. Ian, thank you so much for coming. Where's the hat? I gave you a hat yesterday.

Where is it? It's too warm, man. I just wore a sweater. Milo, you nailed one aspect of communication, and that is that outfit. It's badass. Well, I figured... The flip-flops are man. I just wore a sweater. Milo, you nailed one aspect of communication, and that is that outfit. It's badass. Well, I figured... The flip-flops are better.

I like it. They're fish flops. I'll show you. Oh. Fish flops? You got shorts on. Oh, they're fish. If you live in Florida for any period of time,

you begin to go native, and you start to wear things like this. And somebody got it for me as a joke, and they're the most comfortable things I've ever had on my feet, so I live exclusively in crushed velvet handmade slippers from German Street in England and fish flops. You know what?

I have $2,000 Versace brocade slides and all this bit. I get no compliments remotely close to how much people love these shoes. I get asked I think 10 times a day, where did you get those shoes? So yeah, no, I'm basically living the life of an eccentric retiree. Which I'm happy with because

I do a lot of work behind the scenes for people now. So I get sort of all of the clout, influence, and income without any of the stress of being in public. It's great. The wild ride you went through. Because your life seems terrible.

Yeah. I couldn't do it. From 2016 to 2018. I have a better understanding now of the limitations within which you have to operate. And I have to say, I wouldn't be capable of doing it we should make this will be a really we should have that conversation for the uncensored show and just talk about how the whole i should probably just talk then listen now talk then listen yeah i play that game well you'll

have stuff to say so uh we'll get into it we also got surge pressing all the buttons hey what's up guys so all right i wasn't trying to give you a hard time. It'll be difficult. I don't really know how to talk to normal people anymore because I've just been a regular human for five years. I don't know how to do the coloring between the lines thing. Yeah, it's an art form, man. It's a weird time to be alive with social media subjugation, in a sense.

I don't think it's ever happened in the history of humanity before. Ian wants to explain how to make chlorine gas or whatever. Hey, you! But does it have an extraordinarily depressing effect on you? It must be demoralizing. It does. Last night, the elect— It's emasculating, isn't it?

Yeah. It's like part of you has been chopped off. It's like my soul is muted. It's really disturbing, and I want to change it. Well, you're a sweetheart, so it's it's like my soul is muted it's really disturbing and i want to change well you're you're a sweetheart so probably not so difficult for you but but but those of us who are compelled to break the rules with every breath we take um i think there used to be a place for us you know california i i will well i want to i think we can have a much greater conversation on this for the uncensored show but i'll just add i view it like running through a battlefield where you know mines have been placed and we're trying to make it to the other side to win this conflict

so also when you're trying to change when you're trying to change a system structure it's good to go right next door to the system and behave the way you want that system to become and then it will bleed over into the new system let's let's let's say that let's talk let's talk we'll agree to disagree on strategy we'll talk about that uh for the members on the uncensored where we can go really off but let's jump into this first story. Ladies and gentlemen, last night, Republicans won. And then I wake up in the morning and all the conservatives are angry. They're saying that this was an unlosable election and we did so poorly.

And I'm seeing all these leftist personalities cheering and screaming like, oh, no red wave. And I'm just like, I don't understand. The Republicans won. Like, they won. They won. And there's likely more winning coming. I get it. Republicans wanted a bloodbath, but instead they got a victory. So now this is great. Biden says he won't change anything after successful night for Dems does intend to run in 2024. And it will be fun watching Don v. Ron taunt press. Okay, he's not going to change anything.

That's not the message that people wanted to hear. The message that people want to hear is things are going to get better. But things are bad. And for a variety of reasons, people are willing to vote Democrat and a variety of really weird reasons, like they voted in the dead guy. But I don't think people want to. I think I think I think people used to be engaged in politics because they wanted to get a glimpse of a better world but that's the that's the uh washing powder

uh version of politics i think people are well into bitterness i think people want to see the bad guys bleed i i think that people want to see the the bloodbath that you're talking about right right comes not from a desire to reimagine the world in a better way because i think people are losing hope in that i think people want to see their antagonists suffer i agree um i agree and and the reason for the republican uh frustration is that they were expecting a rare moment of catharsis which is not granted often to people with um right of center politics a moment in which they could uh reassure themselves that sometimes justice is done that the universe is capable of delivering um uh true justice where it is where it is warranted

um and they were robbed of that so they were so what was stolen from them was not um some kind of uh uh you know um uh washing powder commercial glimpse of a better future what was stolen from them was revenge because these people don't feel like they've been out of power and that's a shame they feel like um there are i mean, they articulate their feelings now in very religious terms. And, and they, they talk about their enemies in terms of demons, devils,

and Satan and the way in which they express themselves. You know, and, and the, the, the, the, I think the emotional,

the sunk emotional cost that they had attached to the midterms as a moment when they could reassure themselves that maybe there was, you know, maybe there was still some glimmer of. But they won. Well, not really. But they won what they needed, the House. No. What could they have done better? It was a bog standard or slightly unimpressive midterm in which the usual swing occurred. That is not what Republicans were expecting. Right, right, right. It is not what republicans were expecting right right

they want what they were hoping for that's not a victory um when when something happens that always happens that happens whether you campaign or not that happens whether you do anything or not that's not a victory that's um that's as people perceive that as a kind of um uh as a sort of um almost like a weather event you know it's just part of the natural cycle of things. There was no victory because there was nothing above and beyond the ordinary course of a midterm election. I understand what you're saying, that they needed something that proved,

something symbolic and something of meaning. They just wanted the people who they feel are tearing the fabric of their civilization apart um uh doing all kinds of things that we'll talk about in the uh no to to to suffer they wanted to see their they wanted to see the the um i forget what the conan quote is i haven't seen it for 25 years but um you know they wanted that i i the whatever the first lamentations of their women they wanted shrieking they wanted the 2016 energy they wanted to see liberals panic

but that's nebulous in the sense that by taking it's atavistic it's fundamental by winning the house there can now be inquiries investigations

nobody cares about winning the house right right so listen nobody cares about winning the house the entire republican base is now for them to get elections are the retribution for them to feel the satisfaction is simply their choice they got what they could get now i suppose they wanted to see a tremendous landslide victory they didn't get what they could which wouldn't have changed anything procedurally it would have felt good no well i would just say they didn't get what they could get they were they rightly intuit that they were robbed of

this victory by people who should have had their backs but what's the victory what does victory look like they wanted to see their own enemies humiliated right right right and and they didn't and the only reason they're not being humiliated is because republicans are acting like they lost no no no um what happened in this election was was not only were the leaders in the Republican Party removing spending from some of the most inspirational and popular candidates, which itself is a form of demoralization and sabotaging some of the candidates that had the most promise for upsets. Those little things that give you a burst of joy. A burst of joy in an otherwise, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, it would have been nice if he'd won,

but what they correctly intuited is that this was another example of the powers that be in the Republican Party leaving money on the table, actively sabotaging the candidates that the base likes most because they hate them. And they are right about that. That's what happened. The powers that be in the Republican Party sabotaged some of the candidates that were the most popular with the base and changed the result of some of those elections uh through removing millions of dollars in spending

so the the republicans are acting out not because they're um babies who are choosing to be losers they're acting out because they were wronged and they know it sure sure but i don't think that that that uh explains ben shapiro for instance nothing explains ben shapiro well look you look at the daily wire guys and they're upset about the results they're saying you know uh to a lot you've never had a moment of contentment in their lives um so perhaps that's it they weren't going to be satisfied no matter what happened well they won't all sorts of things well just really quickly i really wanted to put in and make a point like this they won't be happy until a quite different flag is flying over the white House. But the midterm elections are usually a referendum on the president's term.

I think there's a reason why Biden is coming out right now and saying, I'm going to keep doing what I usually do. But they historically, politically are. And if we look at previous midterms, like in 2010 and 2014, the Republicans overwhelmingly won by huge numbers. They didn't do that this time. The Senate, again, is still undecided. These results don't match how people feel about Biden. They don't. Now, there are candidates that are weird special cases, like Fetterman, who has inspired sympathy.

And he's just I kind of I can't sort of like the guy. It just brings out, you know, kind of a warm feeling. I just kind of want can't help but sort of like the guy um it just brings out you know kind of a warm feeling i just kind of want to see him succeed because i see him struggling and i see a federman ticket normal normal response to seeing somebody um struggling is to want to help them you know like i watched that debate and i wanted to vote for the guy um that what people are seeing is results that are out of step with how they know people feel about this presidency. And the reason those results are out of step is the Republican leadership. Who didn't just sit by and say, let's just let what happens happen.

They actively sabotaged the chances of some of the most popular populist nationalist Trump adjacent characters. It is, and, you know, voters are a little bit better informed and a little bit more intelligent, I think, than the Washington people give them credit for. They have correctly intuited betrayal. They are not upset because the results were, you know, they didn't get enough seats. They are justly incensed and indignant because they know that they have been betrayed by the people they pay to have their backs do you think that the republican party should split in

half or split apart i think the country should split in half um i'm very much in favor of a divorce uh the republican party is uh is is an entity that survives despite failing to understand how to talk like human beings how to talk to human beings and how to reflect the concerns of the voters who out of you know the out of the uh indefatigability of the human spirit keep uh hoping for the best and voting for them anyway um the party is not fit for purpose and if it doesn't reinvent itself in trump's image um it doesn't deserve to live trump or ron desantis that's going to be the big debate here as well i don't think anybody um is seriously in favor of desantis unless they're paid to be i i strongly disagree with you on that but that's gonna be that's gonna be a topic we're gonna be discussing here if you're on megan mccain's side you're on

the wrong side i don't think i'm on Meghan McCain's side at all. But more importantly here, there is something to say about this performance in the face of economic inflation, lockdowns, crime waves, which seems like it wasn't really affecting the election results. There's also the fact that a lot of Trump-endorsed candidates didn't win. Trump's attacking some of them right now. They weren't Trumpian candidates. And the ones that he didn't. They weren't Trumpian candidates. And then the ones he attacked won. There are some examples of that.

I felt a bit icky seeing Trump whine about the consultants. It didn't seem like a kind of alpha dog daddy thing that we're used to from Trump. Seemed a little bit pathetic. And my hope is that he will announce soon and get his mojo back because at the same time as he's taking these very light touch, teasing pot shots at DeSantis, who has zero chance of succeeding. Look, DeSantis is almost as popular as Trump in some bits of Florida. But don't ask them to choose because he is gone

the second they have to choose between him and Trump. Don't get it twisted, okay? He has no chance. It is not happening. Do you think even in Miami and Tampa, Trump wasn't able to flip those districts? You're out of your mind if you think that somebody with the charisma of a potted cactus can go up against Donald Trump and not end as just another casualty on the list. You're out of your mind. And looking at the rogues gallery of people who are being paid to support DeSantis, I think unless you can provide a compelling case,

which today I have not heard, you are being charmingly naive in falling in line with the worst people in this country. The worst people in this country who want more than anything for the will of the people to be subverted. They want to suffocate Trump and all he stands for. And he is, of course, merely a proxy. He's a shorthand for a variety of things that they hate about Americans. They hate the gauche-ness of the South. They hate everything about the South. They hate Appalachia with its lack of sophistication. They despise and are contemptuous of the

people who love trump and they are the architects of their misery i mean there's a reason that the these places that vote for trump have drug problems it's because the coastal elites systematically killed these towns by taking all the manufacturing abroad to weaken the economic clout of Republican places. These places were deliberately and systematically sabotaged. And the result of that is like human misery on a scale that nobody really truly comprehends. There's now no reason for many of these towns in the South to exist. And they stagger on with no factories, with no jobs, with no hope. And people lose themselves in godlessness and in drugs

and in all manner of self-destructive behaviors. That was done to them. That was the thing that was done to them, okay? And Trump is a neat shorthand for the kinds of people that coastal elites consider to be beneath them. Okay? And Trump is a neat shorthand for the kinds of people that coastal elites are considered to be beneath them. And the DeSantis project is about ensuring that Trump was a temporary, unfortunate blip, never to be repeated. Because they think they have the right to determine that. They think they have the right to dictate that. I don't think that's going to pan out for them.

I think they're going to continue to be humiliated, just as they have been every time they've tried to sense. Let me ask you a question. I would love to hear your case for DeSantis. Absolutely. But my first question would just be, if we took Trump and DeSantis and we made a Venn diagram of everything they agreed on. What are the differences that you see that DeSantis doesn't have? What is that X factor that Trump does have that you're talking about? Well, you just said it. Trump is a once-in-a-generation charismatic authority

that cannot be replicated. It cannot be imitated. As somebody who has a little slice of that kind of charisma myself um and has experienced a retinue of desperate clingers and imitators in my life um i can tell you it it never pans out trying to you know uh just snatch the bits that you can stomach from the guy everybody loves and otherwise keep serving your special interests. Trump is a, look, whether you believe in God or not,

you could express this in terms of ordainment if you wanted to, you know, or you could just say that some people are born with a magical kind of personality that captivates people in a way that nobody else can imitate. In terms of what people are getting from it. DeSantis, on the other hand, has no identifiable personality at all. Well, sure, sure. But what symbol policy feeling do people get from Trump? What victory do you get?

You're making the mistake that all politically minded people make, which is assuming that people vote on the basis of policy. I said feeling. DeSantis has scored some victories in Florida. He's been an excellent governor in Florida. And that's where he should stay. Because he's been a very successful and excellent governor in Florida. But as I said, people like him in some bits of Florida almost as much as they they like trump but ask them to choose i'm trying i'm trying to figure out on the the gain people get from trump they don't get from desantis and that can be emotional it's precisely

that it's precisely that magical intangible that um you that you try to articulate and stumble and then when you go to a rally, you're like, that's what I was talking about. It's cymatics, man. It's vibration. It actually alters DNA. I don't know about that, but... Sound can change the way people's bodies structure.

That sounds like nonsense, but... It's real. That's amazing. That's why music can heal people and stuff. No. So do people's voices. Definitely not. But there are people who are born with that um gift and uh they

typically find some um uh way in which to to express it but some of them become singers some of them become actors uh and saying trump exudes really charisma doesn't quantify what's happening for us in a way that, you know, so for me, right? Of course it does. He's mesmerizing. I get that. I get that. But what do, so a lot of people are motivated. He's an intoxicant that blots out the sun.

There is no conventional political candidate who has a chance. What does an intelligent individual or working class person gain from that? A good feeling? I don't know what kind of logical fallacy that is. What does an intelligent person gain? Well, because you're saying the average person doesn't care about policy. I can't speak for intelligent people.

So if no one actually cares about what their politicians are doing for them, then why should I care about Trump over DeSantis? Trump is... What happened in 2016 was the last time that half this country felt good about themselves and like there might be hope. You cannot fight that. Hope for what?

Trump... Their world wouldn't be ripped apart by social engineering and by other things I can't mention right now until the third hour. But there are things going on in this country that threaten the very basis of our civilization that stem from original sins like women's suffrage, but go all the way through to more modern fads and manias to do with things we can't talk about. But people are keenly aware that the physical reality of the world they live in, the facts they took for granted, are being ripped apart by the political descendants of... Now I understand. I understand what you're saying.

So Trump in 2016, I was very blessed to have the opportunity to be such a big part of that because that was the last time that an entire half of this country felt like things might end up okay. And he turned out to be disappointing in office, but how could he ever have been any...

How could he ever have ended up otherwise? Not appointed really horrible people around him, like John Bolton and Dr. Fauci, and put him in positions of power. That's one of them. But one thing I want to bring up... Trump has a weakness for his family. I want to ask you...

He finds it very difficult to say no to his family, I think. But that's the answer to your question. The reason that people will flock to him no matter what, even though they hate what he has to say about certain medical things, they hate it he has to say about um uh certain medical things uh they hate it they can't understand why he's so proud of it they can't understand why he never shuts up about it they just want him to stop it's like do you know who your base is bro um but they'll forgive that and everything because he was the last guy that made them feel like

justice and hope was so was was within reach i'll try and i'll try and quantify it the way i what i'm basically hearing is that there are there are dark forces that are destroying the fabric of this country donald trump stood in front of that and and put a fist up to stop it there might it might not be too late um that you know so so when christianity comes into europe in the middle ages right it's it's it's real innovation is um a sort of joy and happiness that's not fueled by uh self-indulgence and self-destruction so uh pagan societies you know um people losing themselves in music and substances uh there's always kind of a cost attached to that kind of ecstasy right you get you get yourself caught up in some kind of umic, pagan, you know, trance thing.

The nearest cognate we have these days is drug-fueled EDM raids. And it always comes with a cost attached. There's a price to it. When Christianity comes in the Middle Ages, you suddenly see, like, intensely religious people singing and dancing. They found this way to be happy that doesn't involve killing yourself in some, you know, sort of slow-motion suicide. People who are full of the joy of the incarnation. And you have gargoyles pulling faces on cathedrals. You have religious people with smiles on their faces.

One of the emotional capstones of Western civilization is that joy. Another characteristic of our artistic tradition is yearning or longing, right? Most great works of art are about reaching for something, you know, about that sort of romantic frustration or whatever. But one of the sort of emotional building blocks of our civilization is joy, joy in Christ, happiness for its own sake.

I don't think anybody could plausibly claim that society is getting happier and more joyful. What we've seen with runaway school marmishness and restrictions and regulations, the kind of intolerable and oppressive conditions under which some people valiantly continue to labor, is a gradual suffocating of joy. There's nothing recognizable as comedy on television anymore.

Well, just really quick. I'll be quick, sorry. That gradual erosion of happiness, people feel that. They're aware of happiness. People feel that. They're aware of it. They won't articulate it in the way that I did, but they're aware of it, and they know that the last time that something good happened was this crazy guy that they remembered from a TV show

who suddenly inspired them with confidence that maybe it wasn't too late to beat back the hordes of hell. It could be also the loss of religion and the overindulgent society that is being prioritized by big tech social media. But I want to specifically talk about Trump because I did agree with a lot of things you said, specifically that he does have a cult of personality.

He did represent an idea that was going to help the American middle class. That's a demeaning minimization of what he had. Cult of personality is never a compliment. Cult of personality means that somebody has managed to baffle and bamboozle their followers into doing destructive things. Cult of personality is... Like maybe taking a product that they shouldn't be taking that hasn't been proven, that hasn't been rushed to prove with Operation Warp Speed. I'm not allowed to...

But I just want to specifically get to the point of what happened today, because Trump's messaging doesn't look strong today. He came out, and he talked about how he got more votes in Florida during his election. He talked about how one of his endorsements was wrong, and he openly threatened Ron DeSantis on Fox News, saying specifically that DeSantis is going to hurt himself badly if he runs, and that he has some kind of dirt on him that his wife doesn't even know that he's going to release to the general public.

This doesn't seem like a unifier or someone who's going to bring the party together and help the party overall. It seems like he's looking out for himself. Let me add one point. Even Picasso had a blue period. I mean, Trump has permitted a wobble given what he's been subjected to. He spent the past year just nonstop talking about the past.

And people want to hear about it. I agree, and I think it's a mistake. And I think that he currently sounds pathetic, and I think that he needs to fix it real quick. But let me tell you, the moment that guy gets his mojo back, there isn't anybody else on the field. And you best believe that will happen.

That's a video we should make. Seamus. Trump got his mojo back. You best believe that will happen shortly after he announces when he has kind of, I think, emotionally reinvested in the fight. But this is a guy who...

Art of war. Make your enemies think you're weak when you're strong right is that what it is i don't know if trump thinks in those terms i don't know if he's he's i'm only half kidding i don't know if he's read a book but um uh i don't know if he's read his own um but he doesn't need to because he is has that gift that a couple of people per generation have which is when you know when they're in a good spot and they're firing all cylinders, they just have an atavistic, reflexive, natural understanding of their people. And he's an interesting anomaly because typically you see this in Europe where there are more

explicitly established class systems, right? So class operates in America, but everybody pretends it doesn't exist, which is why you don't really understand half of what's happening. But there's a weird affinity between the aristocracy and the working classes in European countries that retain some vestige of aristocratic systems.

And it's something to do with the fact they live in the same places. They both live, you know, rurally in the countryside. They have some of the same hobbies. They are involved in the same kinds of bits of the economy. But they also have a similar outlook on the world. You know, they tend to be conservationists rather than environmentalists, if that makes sense. You know, they have a kind of understanding that the anxious middle classes,

the doctors, teachers and lawyers who live in big cities, can't understand. Trump managed to pull that off in a way that I don't know if any American really ever has before. Reagan maybe had a little kind of dollop of it, but not to this extent. Trump, perhaps because of his um ludicrousness his uh putting his name in gold on the side of his buildings on his plane the the sort of extravagant and yet at the same

time kind of mid-brow mid-market version of opulence that that that he was showing people set him so far apart from um ordinary people that he just managed to form this kind of like weird but real bond in in in a way i've only i've seen previously in in these you know in these um uh vestigial class systems and and it's it's something to do with the fact that when he's listening to his own instincts instead of um certain family members and um uh like ivanka trunk that told him to bomb syria well her husband is the problem. And Jared Kushner, who represents the establishment and is tied to some really seedy and bad places and people.

Well, Steve got fired for the same reason that I'm going to get escorted out of here, which is he finds it very difficult not to tell the truth. So when he described Ivanka as dumb as a box of rocks, as soon as I read it, I was like, yeah, Steve said that. But this is my fear, my lie. I just want to bring this up really quickly. She's not a diabolical architect of her father's destruction.

She's a very easily influenced woman who's very in love with her husband and anxious to maintain some kind of social status independent of her father, which means distinguishing herself from the views of his that are unpopular in the office. And I absolutely agree with you, but aren't you fearful that the establishment base of the party has been kicked out or prosecuted or is being currently put in jail, while the establishment wing of the Trump administration is still...

The anti-establishment is getting thrown know thrown in jail has been kicked out has been uh kicked out of his administration and the pro-establishment side is still surrounding him i don't think that um whatever petty humiliations visited upon uh those brave enough to raise their head above the parapet you know i don't think those ultimately inconsequential humiliations have much of an effect at all. Like Ivanka's there, but Ben's not. Yes, but look, there are those of us who are called, compelled, whatever, it doesn't feel like much of a choice to me,

it just feels like what I was put here to do um to uh charge out in front and um accept the cost of that and what comes with it you know uh and and those sort of spectacles those moments in culture those moments in history um they linger for decades they have an effect vastly um uh more complex and far-reaching than people usually appreciate. You know, and when people watched certain things happening to center-right popular funny guys, it will shape the thinking of Republican voters for decades. The fact that there is, for all of the w for decades the fact that there is a that there is um for all

of the wailing of the left left about systemic injustice which can never really be uh located or convincingly um uh explained there is a hideous injustice that has been visited on them and and many of the people that they have admired and loved. That stuff shapes the way that people live and the way they think. It shapes their opinions of new players on the scene. There will always be sacrificial lambs. That doesn't in itself

mean anything bad, usually the opposite. Martyrs are remembered for a reason. Fondly, for a reason. Do you feel let down because you're one of the people that was really behind donald trump so were a lot of other people that were censored that were punished that were banned on social media and a lot of people think that trump was in a position of power where he could have stood up for his supporters stood up for all the individuals that were going down taken down as he was in positions of power do do you feel like

slighted in any way where he could have done something to big tech social media? He could have reined them in. And he could have also gone to parlor. He could have also stood up for free speech, but he didn't. I understand why a 70-year-old man might not have comprehended the priority that that was.

Look, I watched the cancelled summit at the white house and i noted like everybody else that nobody who had actually been cancelled was invited yeah it is a fact of historical record that every year um when the new interns came into the white house they were asked if anybody was a fan of alex jones or marley anopolis and if they said yes they were escorted off the premises. Interns for Trump? The White House interns. And you guys were the biggest base.

That happened every year that Trump was in office. Now, Trump bears ultimate responsibility for his hiring decisions, but the whole apparatus of the party was deeply committed to a business model that Trump threatened to wreck inside a generation. The gravy train might be over if he succeeded. you know, that you saw to Trump was the aggressive, ruthless, sociopathic response of people who are wedded to earthly riches. Seeing their horde threatened by somebody who could, you know, cast a spell and impoverish them uh i wouldn't want 2016-17 to have played out any other way what possible better story is there than of these people who were it's like you know people were robbed of us it sounds conceited to say but um you know this this fascinating and exciting corner, well, it wasn't a corner, it was, you know, culture really was sort of wiped out by bad people with bad intentions. And no one was ever held accountable for it.

And everybody feels poorer as a result. You know, without cancel culture, you wouldn't operate under the appalling conditions that you do. I don't know how you do it every day. I couldn't get up in the morning. And that's why I don't wish for it to go any differently than it did. I think the lasting impression and the righteous indignation that that produced is one of the most powerful motivating energies behind the Republican base. What do you think about Elon Musk buying Twitter and everything that's happened so far? Well, a sensible person would probably say they're

cautiously optimistic. The thing I've been following most closely is his so somebody sent me a Telegram channel that just kind of catalogs all of his activity on Twitter. And I don't so much look at what he tweets because that's obviously

through the lens of public activity on Twitter. And I don't so much look at what he tweets because that's obviously, you know, through the lens of, you know, public management or whatever. What's more telling and where I think everybody kind of gives themselves away is in those casual likes that happen at two in the afternoon or two in the morning, you know?

And the way he brutally handled Kathy Griffin. What I look for when I, when I'm trying to kind of work out what's really going on, I try to think, what's making this guy smile? You know, what is bringing this guy happiness, satisfaction, joy? Because that I find to be a reliable indicator of future behavior. So I'm looking at some of the stuff that Musk likes, and I'm getting a bit more optimistic.

And then, you know, when he said she was impersonated for, she was banned from impersonating a comedian, that's funnier than anything that Kathy Griffin has ever said. It's true. That's funnier than her whole career. And this tells me that he takes great personal satisfaction in seeing justice served to

those who have been living high on the hog for far too long. Abusing and insulting the rest of us while not allowing us to respond in kind. And that tells me that he is powerfully motivated

to see justice done publicly. So do you think that Kathy Griffin was a good move or a bad move? It's phenomenal because it was, I mean, Elon is the king of vaporware, and that's very frustrating. But at the same time, he has a sense of theater and spectacle. And it was classically intelligent, Elon, because it was just the right demonstration that he meant what he was saying.

He put his money where his mouth was. He put one of the most famous comedians in America in the sin bin. And then insulted her. Amazing. And forced her to tweet from her dead mother's twitter account which the she then tried to play off as like knowingly ghoulish but she just looked weird yeah i mean she she's now i mean she was she is a damaged figure anyway um but she is a greatly diminished figure as a result of this interaction he didn't force her she decided to do it herself which is disgusting in itself she's well the mom thing was just kind of like the the the um clown world capstone

the way in which he brought her to heel by being funnier than she has ever been she's supposed to be her job i mean like who would go up against the comedian on twitter anyone because they're not funny uh because they're not allowed to be anymore uh you know the basis of of comedy for centuries was laughing about our differences so that we can realize they're not that serious exactly that's comedy in its essence right because because when you when you point out in an affectionate way um amusing manners amusing ways in which you differ from somebody else has the effect of bringing people closer together not driving them apart um and a deliberate misunderstanding of this is behind, you know, the death of joy that I was talking about.

But he chose just the right person who had already damaged herself with the Trump head and therefore was difficult to defend to demonstrate that he really meant what he said. And then in a final act of sadism, i enjoyed um he said i guess if she really wants her account back she can have it meaning beg he said he said for eight dollars for eight dollars yeah which is which is great too you can say what you want about me that's gonna be eight dollars um but but he he basically said to her i have humiliated you in front of the world. You can come back, but you've got to beg me. And in doing that, he, in a sense, was speaking for all of us in that moment. And we were all kind of like,

this is what we've been waiting for. And we got a little glimmer of maybe what we felt in 2016. But it was more than that. It was putting his money where his mouth was, right? Not that he hadn't done it already, but I mean, I think he borrowed most of the money for the purchase, and put a lot of debt on the books,

but who wouldn't? It was him showing us that he meant it. He actually did mean it. And it was a stand by and stand back, or whatever it is. It was a, just hold on. I'm going to deal with this. You made a very important point about comedy healing society.

And I think one reason why society is so ravaged is because comedy has been pretty much been made illegal. I remember your Patrick Ewan comment. We don't have to get into the specifics of it, but I remember it just being hilarious. But specifically, if you were given the chance one more time to go back on Twitter, would you take it? And how would you post differently how would you would you be different or would you

be the same everybody i know has had a very different uh trajectory after cancellation to me um i i'm sorry people are going to know who i'm talking about and some of them are friends and some of them used to be friends but i've just seen people um become just destroyed i've seen people wreck themselves through this like uh um uh hysterical kind of manufactured grief about a twitter account it was never that serious it was never that important to me it was just one medium through which i enjoyed amusing people but for some people it was kind of all they had um and many of those people have been wrecked by this they're not the same people they were in 2015 um and and i i saw some of my friends people i'd previously admired doing this kind of you know pathetic clamoring

for some glimmer of former relevance uh trying, you know, doing anything at all costs to stay in the headlines occasionally. And frankly, I felt that it was squalid and decrepit and beneath me and I was absolutely not interested in lowering myself to that. So, you know, I think I've emerged from it the most psychologically intact because everybody I know was driven emerged from it the most psychologically intact

because everybody I know was driven crazy by it. You know, in ancient Rome, when an emperor was especially bad, they would do something that was later called damnatio memoria. So when the emperor died, they would chip his name off buildings and smash his busts with the goal of erasing him from history. The idea was that nobody would be able to tell in future because in Europe, in Western civilization, we used to think in terms of civilization, of legacy.

Legacy, yeah. When the patriarchy was intact, we thought more about that kind of thing. Yeah. And so the Romans were very concerned about how they would be viewed in the future. So when somebody was especially cruel or wicked or crazy, they went to great lengths to erase them from history. There's something oddly more sadistic and wretched is happening now because people are

alive to see their own erasure and that's new in history there's no no there's no real um close equivalent to that you still banishment well yeah sure but but you know you can go and you can make a new life but to be but to be forcibly uh installed on the sidelines watching as your name and your work and your reputation is destroyed and dismantled and urinated on. That's something that not even the most sadistic and insane Roman emperors suffered.

And I can understand why a lot of people find it traumatic. Perhaps I had a bit more of a healthy attitude to all that in the first place, and I can understand why a lot of people find it traumatic perhaps I had a bit more of a healthy attitude to all that in the first place so I didn't kind of feel a existential loss of like it's a Twitter account I still have my house I still have my health

you know it didn't make me wake up in a cold sweat thinking I've lost everything as it did to some other people because I think I maybe had a bit of a better appreciation of what it represented and what it didn't. But I understand why they're traumatized. It's been very upsetting. I personally would do nothing different at all. Will you come back on the platform?

Sorry, that was your question. I don't know. I feel like i mean i i kind of like sort of define that era and and me coming back is going to be like a well there's any all roads lead to some kind of um uh some kind of um disappointing tribute act to past glories you know and i don't really believe in in in you know kind of trying to resurrect uh past successes uh i'm happy that they happened in a and and all the rest of it but i'm not i'm not somebody that can live that way so i if i do it will probably be in a very different format

and a very different style. It's a battlefield that I comprehensively conquered and I don't feel the need to revisit it because I beat it. I beat it so much that they had to institute the regime that followed. They had to hashtag

I can't say the word. They had to make rules because of you. They did. It set the trajectory for the for the failure of the company you know um and that's something i regard with uh you know um nostalgia and satisfaction and i revisiting it would be to fall prey to um uh a sort of debilitating um temptation to live in the past i found let me let me rob you're sorry i want to act in the present milo i want to ask you this question because you talked about legacy in the roman emperors i'm wondering if you think the loss of that in modern civilization that we that many

people no longer care about their legacy in their history is a defining factor in why things are the way they are falling becoming darker yes it's a product of women's suffrage um the kinds of people who were plausible candidates for office changed when the voting base broadened. And I don't think it's controversial to say that the sexes are different and have different priorities and different preoccupations and different ways of approaching the question who do i want right um i i i am of the view that women's suffrage changed politics for the worse because i think it opened the um floodgates to uh opportunistic charming sociopaths who might previously have been weeded out or considered not the right kind of person. Sometimes you see glimpses of this in, I mean, if you watch Mary Poppins, right, and the dad who's kind of like vilified Mr. Banks is the only virtuous character in the whole

thing. And he's talking about how discipline, order, and that essential English virtue restraint are the basis of a orderly civilization. And those are the virtues, the values, the habits that we should aspire to. And all around him, he's got this pampered, prideful mess of a wife who can't be bothered to be a mother and is churning through nannies instead because she's um you know got her whatever uh there's there's this um witch who descends from the sky and and you know uh gives the kids psychedelic drugs i guess um we got to remake this movie by the way and tells them no it's already there

you know and um uh teach it she she kind of um wears the thin veneer of rules and manners but really she preaches chaos. And she undermines. There's stuff in that movie that is on purpose. In Feed the Birds, she has the audacity to claim knowledge of what the saints think about airborne rodents pooping on cathedrals, damaging the architecture.

It's a very subversive movie about the triumph of witchcraft over virtue. But, you know... Is that what it is? Mary Poppins? Oh, it's hideous. That's fascinating.

No, it's very dark. It's very dark. You have this... We have to do a thing where we watch it and you do a director's commentary kind of thing where you explain all this stuff. There's a show in Britain, I think, called Gogglebox

where the show is two people on a couch talking about the show they're watching and it sounds unendurable, but it's really good. Bobblebox? Gogglebox. I've never seen it, but everybody loves it. No, I mean, there's so much in that movie to unpack the way that she presents as an appropriate candidate for the role,

but then immediately sets about wrecking the social order. And it's a particular kind of Christian restraint that Mr. Banks is explaining. He's saying that we can't just give in to every reckless and wild abandoned temptation. He's saying in order to prosper and to be happy and to be successful and for our ancestors to be proud of us and our descendants to be grateful to us, there are virtues we should cleave to that involve not indulging ourselves. And what does Mary Poppins come and do? She comes and makes a mockery of the business of tidying the room by using witchcraft so there's no effort expended,

violating the natural order of things and teaching the kids that they can do their chores without the effort required, and therefore they don't learn the lessons from it. She takes them on this psychedelic journey, teaching them nonsense words. She praises, I mean, you won't know this as Americans, but you don't feed pigeons in London.

They're rats with wings. that's what we call them you know this lullaby to send people to sleep is about encouraging a vermin that has destroyed the architecture of London you know everything in that movie is about undermining or overturning

the natural order of things and this is what the headless, selfish, prideful mother, wrapped up in her own political escapades, neglecting her duties as a mother, is engaged in. She's engaged in the business. Now, the reason that I abhor women's suffrage is not that it was something women just demanded, demanded, demanded that they don't deserve or that they're not capable of executing. Actually, it was a manifestation of cowardice from the men, because it was a way of saying, you're on your own, handle yourself, I'm not responsible for your decision making. And therefore, I can't be held accountable for

what happens afterwards. Women's suffrage was a result of a crisis of confidence in the men. And this was greatly enhanced and concentrated by the two world wars that Europe experienced, where men, I think, basically lost the, they felt like they lost the right to rule. They felt like they'd wrecked the world. I mean, it's difficult for us from this distance to appreciate the unfathomable psychopathic horrors of the Third Reich, you know, in whatever manifestation you choose to believe, you know, whichever configuration of historical fact, they're all terrible.

How a well-ordered Christian society gets to the point of going along with that is something that ought to haunt all of us. And it haunted everybody. Because people had friends in Germany, and they're like, how could you send your kids to the Hitler Youth? Well, everybody's in the Hitler Youth. It's just like the Scouts.

The way that that country got swept up in it, it's something dark and dangerous about human nature that we are yet to really understand. It's the dark and dangerous about human nature that we are yet to really understand. It's the obsession with religion as an institution that's really done Christianity dirty, man. To say that it's out there, and if I think those things, then I don't have to live like Jesus was. You got to live like Jesus. That's your job as a Christian. Then you embody the Christ. That's what we need. Well, I'm Catholic, so I can't agree with your heretical opening, but certainly we

should look to Christ as an example to live by. But Christ is not an emotionally incontinent person in the Gospels. I don't think he ever laughs. He's quite a serious guy and says quite outrageous things, things you couldn't say on YouTube. And he is actually quite a profoundly serious figure, despite the great joy he brings into the world by his selflessness, his sacrifice. But very interestingly, I just also want to bring up... What he lays down for us is what became the great classic English virtue of restraint it's I'm gonna I'm gonna say no because I understand that there are consequences that come with short-term pleasure and this Really is the most useful lesson that anybody can teach their children and Mary Poppins is just an extended

It's an extended Undermining of the most valuable lesson that any parent can teach their child. Yeah. And when you look at modern entertainment, you do see a lot of those themes regurgitated and exaggerated, especially with some of the early... Well, now things are just grotesque. Yeah. It's unwatchable because it's not entertainment, it's propaganda. A lot of it is sometimes, if we're lucky, it's subconscious and subliminal, but many times it's overt, in your face, the larger messaging of not just degeneracy short-term pleasures but but just also destroying

not only race relations sex relations but destroying kind of humanity from the inside with this psychological mass hypnosis as i call it the individual subject matter are all you know arguable and and we'll probably agree about all of that. But the real characteristic that it has, the way to understand it, because it's happened before in history, the nature, its character, its nature, is that we're entering a late decadent period of gloating that is common to all illegitimate tyrannies. And the one we have right now is something that Orwell didn't foresee, a weird blend of private enterprise and government run by the same people who operate both for their exclusive enrichment and which has impoverished all of us in spiritual ways, in financial ways, in all kinds of ways, culturally, you name it. In every conceivable way, our lives and our

society are getting dramatically worse with each day that passes. And my decision personally has been to refuse to play along with that. And I won't operate within those rules because I think it's beneath the dignity of a human being to do so. I don't mean that as an insult to you guys, because I admire the discipline that it takes. And I understand the calculus that you've made, right? We're going to say less, but to more people. I totally get it. And there's a spectrum on which we all operate. I'm on the opposite end to you guys. So you guys and I have taken a different strategy to the same problem. Both are right and both are needed. know i just you know we just we just are on opposite ends of it um but the the this this late this

gloating the um the gleefulness with which they um revel in their unaccountable and untrammeled power over us is intolerable and unsustainable. And when that happens in history, the empire in question typically falls really quickly shortly thereafter. And when big nation, when big empires fall, they don't fall like you think they're going to, they don't kind of ossify. They don't disintegrate.

They evaporate. It happened to Rome. It happened to the USSR and it will happen to America. Yeah, we're on that time period. The vector for America is probably going to be the petrodollar and the dollar general. I asked you about the loss of, I guess we don't care about legacy anymore,

or at least many do, but many don't. It's a shift in priorities from the widening of the electoral. Right, right, you mentioned that. I want to specifically go in that direction. You're saying that women don't care about legacy as much as men do? Or what's the... How does that happen?

A system working perfectly is a system where everything is in its right place, performing the function for which it was designed. Okay? And if any component in that system is improperly utilized or damaged or in the wrong place, the whole thing can seize up. and sometimes it can be destroyed.

A fine watch from a Swiss watchmaker will be irretrievably wrecked by a component being moved from here to here. You can't fix it. Only the very expensive ones, but you get the point. I take the same view of creation. We ought not tamper with the order that has been laid out for us. And there are different, distinct, equal but different, I suppose people want to say. There are distinct, I don't think they are equal.

I think women are greatly venerated and always have been. And when women ask for equality with men, I'm of the view that they are silly in asking for a demotion. What we shouldn't tamper with is the proper order of things. There's a proper order to the physical world, to the natural world,

that reflects the heavenly natural world that reflects the heavenly order, that reflects the supernatural, right? It's an echo of it. And when we have men doing things that women should be doing and women doing things that men should be doing, and when we commingle the definitions of those two things, we risk the whole system falling down. And I think that's what's happening. I think that's what we're witnessing. And Camille Paglia, the feminist critic, says that the one characteristic,

an infallible guide to imminent collapse in all great civilizations in the past is an obsession with, she calls it a kind of gender madness, right? Without getting into the subject in a way that would be dangerous, a preoccupation with innovative and sometimes confusing new definitions of things, a sort of confusing of this fundamental natural world. This is the moment at which civilizations lose their way, and they don't last long after that.

So I think that it is a man's responsibility to protect and to provide. I think that men go out and create all these extraordinary things ultimately to impress women. When men want to impress other men, they take creatine and work out. That's always for other men. Women don't care about physics so much. That's always for for men um something sort of intrinsically homosexual about that but um when men go out and and achieve these great feats uh building civilizations you know constructing cathedrals all that stuff it's um

it's because they want access they want in and they want to you know that, it's a romantic project. And it's beneath the dignity of wives and mothers who have a far more important purpose on earth to give them, you know, the petty workings of these political experiments that men have come up with to occupy themselves, to, you, to distract them with that stuff. And I don't think it's something that women especially love. I mean, women kind of hint this. They send us subtle indications that this might be the case.

You see very often women kind of adopt the politics of their husbands. It's kind of a phenomenon that is actually more pronounced the more extreme that the husband's politics are. So you have these women who fall in love with, like, jihadis, and they adopt, you know, radical Islam, and then they go husband-surfing because their husbands all, you know, kind of do suicide bombings. They bounce from husband to husband.

But they start off, you know, like, perfectly normal. Jihad Jane, Jihad Jenny, there's Samantha Luthwaite. Loads of examples of this. Women who just kind of adopt any politics at all uh to get the guy right and this is their way of telling us that they don't really care you know it's just like they have other priorities they want to feel safe they want to feel secure they want to feel loved provided for protected uh and part of doing that is um is sparing women from the ugly baffling and frankly squalid world of politics full of opportunists and uh freaks and inappropriate people you know they're all the people who want power right the people

in politics uh and so we we suffer them we you think women shouldn't be in politics um i think that in america because american men are so utterly pathetic, all talk and no action, that I find American women much more impressive than American men. And there are lots of examples of women having to step up where men have left vacuums. I think Marjorie Taylor Greene is an example of that um she will readily readily tell you that in a perfect world she wouldn't have to be doing this but she felt that it was necessary and that she was the right person the right time um because because no man is doing it for her so so i see her as a as a kind of um a sort of a buddhica uh joan of art kind of warrior queen archetype you know she's doing the thing that no man will step up and do and you know every couple of hundred years men need or need a reminder like that that they're um uh that they're

reneging on their responsibilities i don't think it's the proper arena of women to to concern themselves with uh you know the the intricacies of politics uh because they have a higher and holier and much more important purpose um to which their skills are better suited. And I think that when in the two world wars and women flooded the marketplace out of necessity and then you have the eventually washing machine which frees up this enormous amount of time, once women had been well pleaded with to come and keep the factory line running, nobody felt they had the right coming back from war when they direct the world to say, all right, back in the kitchen, love.

So they just sort of accepted the new reality. We can see what's happened as a result. There's been a feminizing of our institutions. Police forces have started to act more like school teachers where they're kind of scolding people for using the wrong language rather than, you know, criminals. There's all kinds of hints that the priorities,

that the mission statements, that the modus operandi of our state institutions, and now private enterprises too, have changed, and I don't think for the better uh as a result of of um what was missold to women as um emancipation and was actually their enslavement would you would you advocate for repealing the 19th amendment absolutely for those for those that don't know it's the women's right to vote we owe women um an enormous apology for the imposition that we placed on them by this grievous ongoing offense, subjecting them to the ugliness of politics when they should be concerned with raising the next generation

and perpetuating the dynasty, which is, of course, the thing that the man is worrying about. And he finds a wife that he believes will be a partner with him in that task. And while he's having these grandiose uh um thoughts and and building these extraordinary structures it's the women that are doing the hard work of raising the next generation they can't do both um and i think now we've seen and women are beginning to admit in columns in the atlantic and elsewhere that they couldn't do both and they wish they'd done the other one.

Why do you think this is happening? I mean, there was a big push by the industrialists, individuals like David Rockefeller that wanted to, of course, make sure wages were lowered, make sure that there was a bigger tax base. There was a political push, a psychological push, but there's also a biological push. If you look at men, their grip strength is going down. Women's grip strength is going up. Men's testosterone is going down. Their sperm levels are going down. Reproduction rates are going down. Family units are going down.

There's a lot of different things that we could attribute. It's so delicious. Code Red. No, stop it. Don't you, Milo? How dare you? I disagree with you so much right there. I will drop dead because of Code Red. I will. You probably will. It will drop dead because of Code Red. I will. You probably will. It will be the thing that kills me.

I will be so fat. I don't know if those rumors are urban legends or whatever. But I want to get back to this question here is what is responsible for it and how do we fix this overall problem? How do you quantify the problem? How do you fix it? So um wants maximum freedom because maximum freedom means maximum profits uh and that works on both the supply and and um it works every point in the chain right so the more workers you have the better the more people who can work the better because the more diverse the workforce is the less likely they are to unionize which is why

big business is in favor of diversity because it makes their workforces easier to abuse and and to manage um that's the reason big business likes diversity because if you have a workforce made up of people who can barely speak each other's languages they are never going to get together to be the boss well let me add to that too when the rules are so uh atomized you can get someone in trouble for anything anybody who is acting out of line you you can say, oh, well, you're violating this provision. This, I believe, is a manifestation of a frustrated maternal instinct from women who should have had children and didn't. And it's become a sort of, it's become this kind of out of control, turbocharged policing of others, this attempt to impose order on the world. And, you know, I lay the blame for this at the feet of men who, you know, it's the job of a husband to establish the parameters within which his

family will operate. These are the things that I will accept, and these are the things that I will not accept. And he counts on his partner to express those wishes in her daily decisions and how she raises the children. Well, men haven't been doing that for a really long time. And the result has been anarchy. And not just chaos, but true epistemological anarchy. They're like multiple fact universes in America now. There are people who believe completely different pictures of what they think is objective reality, right?

Because instead of politics being, you know, the art of the possible grounded in reason, now we have competing narratives. And these narratives are completely factually divorced from one another and, in most cases, from reality themselves as well. This is the result of um this is a feminization of discourse uh because uh we become untethered from um mr banks's reason and discipline which always falls on the man to uh to to hold in line and instead we begin to indulge in um i mean to put it in grammatical terms right

uh women live in the subjunctive they live live in the world of the possible, right? And the economy of value for women is completely different than it is for men. No man really understands until he has it explained to him why women like expensive handbags. It's like, why do you want this thing that costs $5,000? It's not worth $5,000. Everybody knows it's not worth. What he doesn't understand is that the price point is part of a feature set for a woman. Because when she exhibits this handbag to others, she's signaling that she has snagged a high status husband.

That she's secure, that she's safe, and that she's part of an ongoing and secure dynasty that will outlive her, and that she has acquired a secure and enviable position in the social pecking order. And that social pecking order is a preoccupation of the parish scolds of popular legend. Men don't understand that buying the big diamond, that makes no sense, because the association with diamonds and eternity and love is an invention of the ad industry, right?

Yeah, it was a scam. It's a complete confection. But it's meaningful now and it matters now because it's an expression of something that women want to see in their husbands is that they will do anything, the grand gestures, the romantic gestures, even where it imperils their own pleasure, well-being, to publicly demonstrate their love for this woman, right? And then they want to build a home with a man who they don't necessarily always agree with,

but they always admire and respect. And the deal is, I'll do what you say, even when I don't agree with but they always admire and respect and they they the deal is i'll do what you say even when i don't agree with you because i respect and admire and trust you enough to let you set the parameters for you know for the for the household when men fail in their duties to set those parameters women expand endlessly with no limits and we we see that in HR departments. I mean, the reason that people like me can't get podcast deals is that the ad sales department is entirely feminine.

It's 100% women. And so the vice president will be like, I love you, I just can't get these women to sell you to advertisers because they're going to come up with a bunch of reasons why you're whatever. The economy of value is so completely different and and you know when people stray into areas that are not their proper domain and that could be a husband interfering in some

thing that happens domestically um or it could be a woman in a in a conventionally male sphere it's a trap it's an an illusion. It seems at first like freedom of emancipation, but actually it is enslavement. Yeah. Just to really, I agreed on a lot, but I disagreed on one thing. I don't think it's related to anarchy. I think it's related to centralization, especially when it comes to things like the ESG score that has been pushing a lot of these social norms onto people i i think you know the industrialists the governments especially with the policies they put forward the initiatives that they put forward and what they do and what they incentivize truly has been leading to a society

that is creating more slaves and the state having more power and there's a centralizing tendency in uh matriarchies because they're trying to recreate the patriarchy that's let them down. They're trying to recreate the patriarchy that failed them by disappearing, right? So they're trying to recreate it, except they don't know how, because they don't have the tools, right? The reason Satan rebels and becomes Lucifer is that he is driven mad by jealousy because God gives women a gift that angels don't have. And it's the gift of co-procreation with God, right? When you, within the holy sacrament of marriage, are blessed with a child, you don't just create a child with your husband, but you are co-creating with God because while you produce the biological matter, God imbues that child with an immortal soul.

So in that sacrament, husband and wife are engaging in the act of creation alongside their almighty father. It's like, bleh, you know, we can talk about it forever, but the angelist didn't get that and driven mad by jealousy and rage at what he saw as the sort of preferred younger sibling. This is the basis for the rebellion, right? That should frame our understanding when we talk about this. It's not that we think that women are stupid or incompetent. Clearly, they can manage perfectly well in these spheres.

Whether the effect is good or not is another matter, but clearly they can handle it. But it's encouraging them or enticing them to do so, as big business does because it's good for the bottom line, is only possible when you set to one side the reality of the magic and responsibility and incredible gift that women have that we don't. I thought that was really, I guess, inspiring what you said about society kind of becoming overly mothered because women aren't having enough children. And so they're turning that motherly instinct out.

It's got to go somewhere.'re built for it they're built for it and and if they choose if they if they are lied to and choose their career over um having babies it has to come out somewhere so what do they do they end up in hr where they get to make rules just like they would if they were a mom this This is funny. We talked about this because there was a story we read. And I mentioned that there are some women, not all, not most, but there are some women we see posting on things like Tinder

that they wish they just were able to have families and didn't have to have careers. And the Young Turks took that and turned it into Tim Pool thinks all women or some, like, Tim Pool's ridiculous argument

about women. It's fascinating that you can't even acknowledge that some women feel that way. There's a counterintuitive but inescapably true fact, which is that the freer women have gotten, the more miserable they have become. Well, how about just one quick point. In Sweden, where women have more equal access, the gender differences are actually more pronounced. Yes, because people are so desperate for them. You can neatly trace the history

of women's emancipation, and it tacks directly on to how women report their own increasing misery and also the antidepressants use and also big pharma tablets ssris antidepressants which have gone up with that on satisfaction one in 10 americans on um uh on on antidepressants uh half of all democrat women so they've been to the doctor for mental health problems um you know that's that's that's not normal and it doesn't happen elsewhere in the world it doesn't happen in other places yeah we medicate their misery and and yes and this is well we we the

pharmaceutical model of mental health uh is only capable of treating symptoms uh it can't fix what's wrong with you because it doesn't account for the existence of a soul at all. It treats the body as a purely mechanical machine, as a machine. And if only we could find out which bit needs more oil or which bit needs replacing, we can fix your depression. Well, that's not the nature of depression. That's not the nature of most mental illnesses. We just recently discovered, finally, that the psychiatric industry admitted that there is no basis for the accepted wisdom that depression is a chemical imbalance. They can't find it. They can't prove it.

So it might be that depression is a product, maybe of guilt about sin that has not been, that no absolution has been so of of terrible things all kinds of possibilities let me open up you know but but the the current system is is is totally incapable of of healing it's only capable of um dealing with the symptoms placating in a way that produces new and worse problems like addictions yeah i mean the the the range of um temptations that are uh available so we don't understand addiction very well because we don't understand the brain very well but the one thing we do know is the uh the

the main difference between people who relapse and people who don't is is it available is it right there right uh so people who stay away from um you know from the pair the junkie uh uh hangouts and the rest of it uh it's not in front of them so they're less likely to relapse uh if the that's the one thing we do know about it right we are force-fed i mean this country's force feeds people with a bewildering array of potential addictions, whether it's to compound interest or competitive consumer purchases, TVs, cars. I mean, none of you own your cars. None of you own your car.

I've never bought a car in any way other than outright and in cash. And in this country, burn money uh jumping from car to car like saying goodbye to 20 grand each time and making endless repayments that will never be fully paid down i mean your whole life is enslaved to interest to to people who don't do anything for for um for the money they make um which is usury which is a sin um you know people who are entirely parasitic. I mean, the basis of value in the economy is human labor, right?

It's people doing stuff. These industries that are designed to profit without effort, there's a reason that the church regards this as sinister and sinful, because it is um and and and the the the the manner in which we are presented i mean you know i think that mostly what people said about video games in the 80s and 90s was stupid and what people said about marley manson was like pretty stupid um but the religious right was was pretty bang on about everything else now however when you consider as part of the overall kind of junk food

drink prescription drugs i mean i can't it's it's a wonder that i mean i think every every american basically has two of the of the 10 categories but but they're wrestling with you know this is not normal this is not normal yeah this is this is an abusive relationship um and and i and i so i'll be quick i'm sorry i'm sorry um the the. In just the same way that many of these cultural problems have come from women's suffrage, the failure of institutions to protect people is a result of American independence. Because when you throw away the monarch, you don't really just get rid of him him you make space for something else to move in And you might not have control over that so America is now in a position where they are ruled more brutally and more savagely and

More abusively than any monarch in living memory anywhere in the world But they don't know the names of the people who are doing it to them. It's a central bank and they have reserve That's for sure. Certainly there are Certainly they're a part of it. But what instead you have is the empty pomp and circumstance of the 4th of July. This rippling flag. Why do you love the flag so much? Because there's room to hide behind it.

And the people who are really running the show, whose names none of us will ever learn, are what moved in instead of having... And people will differ on this very violently. I appreciate that. I'll probably take a minority view on this. are what moved in instead of having, you know, people will differ on this very violently. I appreciate that. I'll probably take a minority view on this. But when we think about how the earthly order

should reflect the heavenly order, that's the sort of basis of legitimacy of the papacy and the monarchy, right? The way that societies are are ordered um reflects the heavenly order and and conforms to nature and the way that and our nature the way that we were designed the way that the way that we work um and those are the best and happiest systems to live under they work the best i the the removal of the monarch from the top and then these kind of weird self-sabotaging things like, we're just going to trust that everybody's going to be Christian.

So we'll outsource morality to Christianity, and we'll give people these extraordinary freedoms that don't exist anywhere else, that wreck society unless the whole population is Christian, right? You cannot give people the First and Second Amendment unless they're Christian. You just can't. Because only with that kind of incredible reverence for the sanctity of life can you trust people with

weapons of war um and only with the responsibility that comes with knowing that you have to go to confession for lying can you be trusted with uh freedom to say anything without consequence i agree with the with your statement on second I think that the founding fathers' perspective on society dictated their view of why everyone should be armed. They trusted each other. They all thought each other had some fear of doing wrong. I just don't think they anticipated that the society would become godless. I think, you know, we're talking about the 1700s, right?

I mean, you're living in the wake of the King James Bible, which changes everything. Because it's, you know, people sometimes try to like demean it by saying it's the greatest work of literature in history, which is, you know, true, but stop. the way that the America's founding documents are phrased and the way that the founders spoke is heavily heavily influenced to the point of dictated by the language and the style of the king of the King James Bible which came out in the early 1600s right so when this this country is founded in the wake of this extraordinary moment unique in the history of ideas, where one book changes everything and defines everything that follows it. I don't know, did they ever imagine? I mean, when they enshrined freedom of religion, they were thinking about just making sure that Protestant denominations weren't at each other's throats. They weren't intending for Ilhan Omar to come in and say,

some people did something, and for her to be sitting in Congress, allegedly from a family involved in very ugly things in her home country of Somalia. She couldn't possibly have sought election in this country for virtuous reasons. I can't imagine what they would have been. This is not what was intended. And that's, you know, this ugly phrase, Christian nationalism, that people are so afraid of. What it really is, in my view, is a restitution of the original vision for America, but with a few more safeguards in place. So it's an acknowledgement that this country doesn't work without Christianity. It falls to pieces and it is falling to pieces thanks to godlessness. Why? Because those understandings of the proper places

and roles and functions of things aren't in the law anywhere. They exist in common law and in tradition and in custom in Europe. But this break, this rupture that happens with the sedition and getting rid of the king resets the clock in america and there's none of those things to draw on uh and just trusting that people are going to stay christian and therefore be nice to each other was stupid i one thing i i don't necessarily agree with is that all what there's a statement you know we're made in the image of god the universe is like we're like fractals of reality so like there's one god hence one monarch and that is that i don't universe is like, we're like fractals of reality. So like there's one God, hence one monarch,

and that is natural. I don't know any Christians who talk about fractals of reality. Oh, it's just scientific observations. Do you do a lot of LSD? Not a lot, but I have a little bit. That's a yes. That's a yes.

Keep your dosages low enough to stay sane, my friends. A very dear friend of mine who's a very gifted photographer does little micro doses of LSD, and he has a similar similar phrasing to you oh cool um well what i'm thinking is you see that you see everybody thinks that they have this um extraordinary unique experience that turns them into a genius but they

all sound exactly the same i'm just kidding i'm sorry uh carol oh so there's one god that i i agree that there is in in one sense one overarching magnetic field or whatever the hell god is but then there's also within that it can be broken down to do infinite gods all infinite fields creating one mega field so in that sense we could have one king or we could have a decentralized system of many many local leaders i think you've broken your brain well it's two ways of looking at one this sounds like astrology for men um you what lsd does in creating those new connections in the brain which produce the um you know moments of inspiration is uh it disorders the uh uh established pathways and while it's thrilling and exciting and can make people sound very interesting uh it also gets in the way of um

critical thinking because you're there's a sort of people have done a lot of LSD they have this infatuation with this way they see the world now they think they've got this insight that nobody else has into the nature of reality when actually they're just confused by a bunch of things being stuck together

I agree have you done LSD no most definitely not. You should do it before you talk about it. I don't need to kill someone. No murder's wrong. No, no, no. There are things that I'm happy to trust that I shouldn't try.

And that's another thing about women's suffrage is it's a kind of violation of the innocence of women that men are so attracted to. I mean, the soil that nourishes that protective instinct is the purity and innocence of young women who are unsullied by the ugliness of the world. And men can go out and be reckless and wreck their brains and make terrible mistakes and all the rest of it.

But when you inject women into a sphere that they're not created to flourish in, it does something inexcusable to them. It is an imposition on them that I think that we owe them an enormous apology for, and we should try to set it right. What you said earlier I found very interesting but I would even in some instances go even further because you talked about godlessness. I would say there's even elements of just pure satanism

in our society, in our establishment especially when you look at people like Jeffrey Epstein, when you look at all the celebrities, when you look at all the occult stuff. The rappers are doing satanic rituals. There's like blood sacrifices. Regularly. Lady Gaga leaves a bathtub of blood

in her hotel room. But that's a whole other topic before even getting there. But also, I want to talk about what you said about institutions because you said institutions aren't protecting people. I would even go as far as to say

that the institutions are attacking people, especially when it comes to the way of life, especially with what they incentivize. And I think it's the institutions that are a problem. So how do we it comes to the way of life, especially what they incentivize. And I think it's the institutions that are a problem. We've given ourselves AIDS, so the white blood cells that should protect us are attacking us instead.

So how do we fix this problem? Because it seems like a lot of the solutions you have is okay, let's support Trump, let's support these strong institutions. These institutions are corrupted. How do we fix these institutions? How do we make them work for us again? America is doomed without a reversal of the sedition that sealed its fate. Which is?

American independence. I'm afraid to say it's all encoded. Sounds like something a British person would say. Yes, it does. But there's a reason I'm here and not there. It's because I like it here better. And I want America to succeed and to win. And it would have done so better as a member of the Commonwealth in good standing. It might not have had some of the remarkable financial successes such as they are. But I can't really imagine in 500 years people are going to be discussing

the real housewives of Atlanta. I don't know that the lasting legacy of America is going to be particularly valuable compared to other empires that have been as grand, as rich, and as long-lasting. Somebody wrote in, I forget now because I'm old, but one of your viewers will know, I'm sure, about polarity and the fact that for a long time, we lived in a unipolar world, right, where America was kind of the tentpole. I think the effect of that has been

unquestionably damaging and destructive. And it might not be such a bad thing for us to return to a multipolar world with multiple, perhaps competing superpowers, where there are other visions of what the good life looks like. I mean, Putin is obviously personally deeply unpleasant, and maybe even hideously evil person, depending on how much you believe of what he's supposed to have done but there's something very exciting about the way he talks about cultural issues um and and it it's wounding when he is savage about the failures of the west because he's right about so much of it and it's easy to do from there and you know there's all kinds of horrors and in uh in in russia i mean you can't even get your mail delivered without bribing the

mailman i mean it's like practically that bad. I mean, Russia is not really a functioning society without, you know, it's like Greece, really. You want anything done at all, you need a lot of cash. It's, you know, it's all kinds of problems. But I think something that Russia has preserved that the West hasn't is that the high standard of public discourse, the tone of which is typically set by the prime minister, the president, the monarch. When Vladimir Putin

speaks to the Russian people, he does so in grand historical terms that nobody in the West has done for 50 years or more when you compare it to the the witless prattle of of most american presidents in that time the um pathetic uh uh pandering of most european leaders we have become captives of this feminized discourse that treats everybody what what what is the reason for the nannying culture this this this uh um intrusive invasive and destructive uh a thing it's feminization of culture that seeks to seeks to control what everybody says and everybody doesn't want to say and that's that's that's you know the primary problem in america is not race it's between the sexes because the sexes uhes have completely failed to fulfill their promise and their obligations. Men and women now alike, admittedly, probably, the original sin being the men's, a failure of duty.

Men and women are now completely failing to perform their rightful functions. And so in a globalized information economy where words are powerful, well, that's the arena of women. You know, words are a woman's weapon. So women wield this kind of like outsized influence and ability in social media and all the rest of it. So these become very, very heavily policed, very feminine places really fast.

Because, I mean, you know, the way that men typically settle things, I can't talk about in the podcast, but it's a bit different um or at least there's a kind of uh um bubbling underlying ever-present threat of something else when men are talking you know um uh but women use language very differently and that's what we see now how everybody talks now i just i'm so struck by the way that you know matth, Matthew Arnold said that everybody, no matter where they come from, working class, living in a trailer, they deserve to be exposed to the very best that has been thought and written.

We need to go to Super Chats. Take questions from... That seems to be what Putin is doing. Our leaders, on the other hand, infantilizing us because they want us dumb and dependent. Yeah. And we're very close to collapse. We're going to go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that

like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and become a member at timcast.com, because we're going to have the uncensored show coming up at about 11pm, and I imagine you're not going to want to miss it. Have I done well? Very well. Have I been good? I've been

just panic-stricken. It was absolutely fantastic. It was the worst night of my life. A lot of people are... I'm having the whole time. That was absolutely fantastic. Worst night of my life. A lot of people are... I'm having a terrible time. It was a great discussion. We didn't agree on something. I'm glad you like it because I'm just sitting here hoping that I don't say something. Welcome to our world.

Welcome to my world. Let's read the super chats. Everything in its right place. Some people... To be really... Sorry, I promise I'll be really quick. You know, it is the Christian way to reform from within, right? In other religious traditions, that's like the blow it up, burn it all down.

The terrorism is, I'm not talking about any, well, I'm talking about two specific religions. Terrorism is a characteristic of other religions. Historically, the Christian way of improving, fixing things has been to reform from within, right? So that's, for instance, what Marjorie does in Congress. You know, she's on enemy territory every day. But she does there what you do here. And I have great respect for that project. I didn't mean to speak disrespectfully about it if I did,

because I know I couldn't do it. But, no, it's everything in its right place, you know. So you're doing what you need to do over there. And I'm doing what I need to do over there. We'll explain it in the after show. All right, Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Mr. Poole, your positivity this morning was welcomed. Early water cooler talk was somber here in PA. We were nervous to start anyways. But a win is a win and we can't fix this mess overnight. So gracias. Yeah. I mean, as Milo pointed out, many people wanted a more, they wanted revenge. And I think. They were counting on it.

They were counting on it. Because they were promised it. But they can. And they were betrayed. They don't got to cry about having a win, though. I mean, it's not the win they wanted. I think it's wrong of you to trivialize it as people being crybabies when they have a justifiable grievance. I'd say they were being crybabies.

Well, you know, you sort of said only cry about it in a sort of dismissive way i i received that as a time about a win yeah of course you do because if if if if it's just part of the ordinary pattern and you know that you have been actively betrayed by people that you place in power to look after you you have a justified grievance uh you know offense and outrage are not dirty words they have been systematically misused by bad people for a long time. But when you have a valid grievance, it is right and proper to feel aggrieved. And I don't think people are crying about it. I think they're furious and they're right. The metaphor I get is like if you're gambling on a sports ball game and you're like, I'll take the Eagles by 16.

You need them to win by 16. Even though the Eagles win by three, you still feel like you didn't win.'ll take the Eagles by 16. You need them to win by 16. Even though the Eagles win by three, you still feel like you didn't win, even though the Eagles won. The difference is that in our model, all the games are fixed and the coach promised you they'd do 16. That's what we're living in.

In the mafia version of the sport, the outcome is predetermined and you've been promised an outcome and you've placed a bet on the basis of that outcome. If that outcome doesn't happen, you have been betrayed, and you are right to feel angry, and you are right to seek vengeance. All right, we got Rusta who says, Love the show.

Was wondering your thoughts on the theory of companies such as Ford, Chevy, and other car manufacturers pulling Twitter ads in order to hurt Tesla, as Elon used it as collateral in his purchase of Twitter. I think it's nice that Elon Musk is doing a real business instead of some outreach of the state. All of his previous

businesses have been... It is still outreach of the state. The government runs numerous bot accounts for public manipulation. You're right. It is. Specifically in the financial um uh especially in he's always had enormous um publicly funded cushions um although to be fair tesla doesn't have them while other ev manufacturers do because sort of tesla's um carbon selling yeah this is the situation is more complicated than

i'm suggesting now. And he doesn't get a lot of benefits that other people do. But he would never have got any of those businesses off the ground without being effectively a kind of colossal welfare queen. But I think it's audacious

and brave and self-sacrificing. And I think that's what people admire about this is that it has cost him something to do this. And that's why people like Trump too. And it's another reason that DeSantis can't beat him because he's having hundreds of millions of dollars poured into his coffers by the worst people in the world. Meanwhile, Trump's life is irrevocably wrecked

by the sacrifice that he made to become president. I think people see that. I think people admire that. And with Elon Musk, this is the first time I think he's done something somewhat selfless. I want to know who these individuals are. We'll talk about that later. Ken Griffin. Well, let's read.

Code writer says, Milo speaks the truth so directly, correctly, and unapologetically. This is why he was banned. This is what we need. This is why we love him. Thank you. Well, I'm sorry I'm in retirement. but if, well, maybe I'm not. I don't know. I don't know if I could.

I don't know if I, I don't know if I, I think I would be profoundly miserable trying to operate in this environment. So you will, you will have to see me now and again in controlled contexts and dream about what it might have been like. Or check out the Uncensored Show after the live portion. Oscar says, Milo, I started being political thanks to you and hearing you speak again makes me understand why I loved watching you. You summed up how I felt 100%

to the T with your commentary just now on this. They won't all be compliments, will they? It's very boring. You won't know this about me, but I can't abide flattery. No, thank you for being kind um i'm responsible for a lot of bad things in the past uh um particularly the kind of uh ugly um band of imitators at uh turning point and i've given birth to a lot of ugly things unwittingly. I'm trying to make amends for that behind the scenes.

I hope that by the time I fall asleep forever, that I will have left a good impression on the world and it will be slightly better. At least that people will smile a little more than the way things were

when I arrived. And I'm doing a reasonable job so far. All right. Kyle Miller says, As someone who voted for Trump twice, I think it is time to move on. Mainstream media has tainted his image and now toxic to voters. DeSantis 2024. His favorability is the same as Hillary Clinton in some polls.

It saddens me to see people with lack of faith like that. And I think if you loved Trump, you should remind yourself of why and consider how much you really care about Trump's name being toxified by the media. Sounds like you have capitulated to the enemy narratives and accepted criticisms of Trump that actually don't matter at all. All that matters about Trump is if people love him and vote for him, he will be president. It doesn't matter what the New York Times thinks about him. They never liked him.

I think legitimate criticisms matter because they can make him better. And I think he should have his feet held to the fire for doing so many wrong things. Your closest friends should be your harshest critics. Exactly. And when we get into the next bit of the show, I have some things to say about that. Okay. But if you abandon

the one person who imperfectly and perhaps disappointingly at least tried to break up the abusive stitch-up that is the prevailing American hegemony.

Sounds like you've got the country you deserve, mate. All right. Peace Scully says, I'm a one issue voter avoiding World War Three. Trump is the only politician I am certain would tell NATO to F off. The establishment lining up around DeSantis wouldn't do so if he has a hard line with regards to Ukraine. DeSantis will't do so if he has a hard line with regards to Ukraine. DeSantis will declare war on someone on day one. He is enabled and funded and supported by all the same old people who have done this time and again.

Trump is the only president in living memory who didn't start a new war. Right. There are things that he i'm really intensely disappointed with uh about trump but one that i can say um uh in an uncomplicated way i'm delighted with is that he did not initiate more widespread needless human suffering for the benefit not of some nebulous uh american democratic project but really to enrich walmart um you know dropping bombs on re-ed so that people can drop oxy back home um just just the the not buying into the fiction and corruption of of this theater that

we're presented with this illusion that we're sold um and refusing to start a new war is is maybe the best thing and the most christian thing and the most Christian thing and the most important thing he did. But what he did to Yemen, I think was absolutely disgusting. What did he do? He, he,

he was a part of the Saudi coalition that was bombing Saudi Arabia. That was bombing, excuse me, Yemen in favor of the, the, it against the Hootsie rebels working with Al Qaeda. Let me, let me read this one.

Stephen Bachmeier says, Milo is a good hype man, but not a good convincer of those of us unconvinced of Trump. I'm convinced Milo is paid to talk up Trump. The irony of what he's saying about DeSantis supporters. So it's been discovered that people who have a standard deviation difference in IQ

are effectively not really able to communicate with one another. They sort of talk past each other. Um, and, and they're sort of, uh, like they say about Britain and America kind of divided by a common language.

Um, so I'm sorry that you're not able to grasp, um, uh, uh, what I'm, what I'm sort of trying to express, but,

um, uh, that was a, that was a very eloquent way of saying you're dumb. Perhaps you'd be happier at the daily wire. I don't know. Oh, the digs, the digs the standard deviation being 10 points i'm trying to be nice i don't know how to be nice he said personal invective is banned i don't know any other way to communicate you're doing a great job that was that was actually more hurtful the way yeah yeah yeah yeah that will

leave a mark uh all right let's see see. Christopher says, question for Milo. Who is the Democratic nominee in 2024? And how long do you think realistically until things get to how you want them? I'm not optimistic enough to believe in a Fetterman presidency. No, you know what? Michael Malice was calling for him. I was calling for him too, like weeks ago. Listen, I think America could do with taking itself just a little bit less seriously sometimes.

And these kind of elaborate codes of behavior that remind me of, you know, Versailles under the Louis, of all these people orbiting power, except there's nothing in the middle of it. You know, at least under monarchies, people were competing for the favor of the king. In America, there's nothing there. There's no there there.

It's just a flag, and then you pick it, there's you know nothing a bank um uh i you know i i sorry what was the question well who do you think would be the democratic nominee and do you have so what i was going to say is you know the senate is a is a sinister and boring place full of sinister and boring people um it should i think reinvent itself more along the lines of the upper houses that it was founded to imitate and be full of quirky eccentrics who together, in a messy way, some, you know, approximate the mood and the spirit of the nation and together kind of safeguard against un-American laws, you know, from a variety of different quirky perspectives. I think Fetterman's going to be harmless, and I find him adorable. And frankly, I think the more people with mental shortcomings in the Senate, the better,

because less harm they can do. So what you're saying is Pete Buttigieg 2024. No, he's a different kind of... Biden-Fetterman 2024. Buttigieg is a particular kind of problem because he's somebody, very average intelligence, who cannot be persuaded that he isn't a genius. And those people are very dangerous because they are beyond the reach of reality and reason they're convinced of their own you know special place in history and he you know he's I hope that he will go down as a joke and a footnote and it looks like that's the case but but people who are maybe even you know

not entirely there because they've gone through something awful or they've had some kind of you know a catastrophic brain injury or whatever um there's i don't mind the idea of a quirky committee of national treasures who somehow kind of coalesce and and protect the country against itself because although they're all wacky and weird and and and peculiar somehow the the sum total of them safeguards what America is. That's what the House of Lords is always supposed to be in Britain. They kind of wrecked it now. That's what the Senate was supposed to be here, sort of.

That's what the Senate is modeled on, not this soulless, grim, sinister secret club of backroom dealers. I think the Senate should become more colorful. I think it should have more personality. And if Fetterman is the first step towards that, I welcome it. All right. Ian King says, Tim, just bought your song. Would love to see you do something with independent artists like Adam Calhoun, Ryan Upchurch, or Tom McDonald, as well as see them on the podcast. I'd love to have them on the podcast. That would be an honor. Tom McDonald put out a new song called Fighter. It's such a good song. It is 10 out of 10. It's one of the best

songs I think he's done. It's my favorite of all of his songs, and he just put it out. I was really impressed. It's good. So, you know, I've talked with Tom periodically. He's an amazing guy. I would love to have him on the show. He's a busy guy, and it would be epic if we were able to put a song together. I don't want to say too much. But keep dreaming and keep imagining what you think may be happening. But, you know, I'm talking with Tom. We'll see where it goes. It would be really cool to have him on the show. If you say don't stop believing, I'm leaving.

Don't stop believing. Restraint. I'm too lazy to get up. You win. All right. Rando Bunderson says, I had to say it after you said that. You're right. Rando Bunderson says, heard a had to say after you said that uh you're right rando bunderson says heard a lot about milo but never heard him speak before is this what dnd characters

with 20 charisma sound like yes they're all compliments milo um i actually understand that compliment thank you thank you um i like how you pointed out that you thought desantis has low charisma because if he was a dnd character i think I think he has like average charisma. Oh no, he's like a damp sponge. Like intelligent. Something clammy and unpleasant that you find your hand accidentally touches when you're thrusting about for a mug. You see, these are way more hurtful and funnier than direct insults. I agree to disagree.

I think we've moved past the period of debate and the mask of manners, and I think we're in shut-up, stupid, you-know-what territory in culture at the moment. But we'll talk about that later. Now, look, there was a particular group of people who were dressing as DeSantis this Halloween, women who like women. And it was clear that in picking their outfits, they'd merely selected from their own wardrobe.

And it was uncanny. And I've never really been able to see him the same twice. You know, he's he's i'm sorry he just ain't it and if you have allowed um despair and um uh the demoralization techniques that you are being pummeled with to um accept a lesser substitute that cannot possibly hope to fix the deep spiritual crisis that this country is in then i'm sorry for you but you're part of the problem so you should just get out of the way next the slayer says wait what mary poppins agreed with the father's virtues spoonful of sugar was to

point out that rewards can help reinforce the important but sometimes bitter truths the father wanted to impart? Except when she, no, so she wears a shallow mask of manners, right? She presents as, in just the same way that cultural subversives always do. They present as a functioning member of the prevailing order. But what she does is intensely subversive. I mean, she recommends witchcraft as a solution to um chores right there's a reason that that um you know humble and uh unassuming people consider their daily duties to be um character forming because they are they have intuited something that aristotle understood which is that habits become character i i and i want to say i agree

with you and disagree with this point a spoonful of sugar implies that you should be rewarded for doing what you're supposed to do bribing you for doing what you're supposed to do anyway with addictive drug by the way right no no with sugar listen sugar's bad when we when we go to the movie theater um and we drench ourselves in fat salt and sugar and stare at an electric light on the wall, we are hypnotizing ourselves in the closest thing that our society has to a sort of pagan ritual. You probably love it.

Oh, we're going to go see Wakanda Forever tomorrow. No, I'm not. I'll pass. You know, what was interesting about that film is... Screw that CIA propaganda. What was interesting about that whole series, which I i liked is that they made the woke guy the villain um uh he you know he's a bad guy uh and also that movie was very distinctively african not black and and i noticed a lot of american like woke black activists trying really hard to like it

while also not quite getting it at all um and growing up in europe and i was surrounded by you know west indian africans jamaicans and and you know nigerians i've been to africa as most of the fans of that movie haven't um and so i was able to you know appreciate a lot of um what they were seeking to accomplish in this in this you know this i noticed about that film it didn't do the easy and obvious things, right? It was very distinctively African, which was a big risk because American blacks don't know anything about African culture. They really don't.

And Africans are very, they have some real choice opinions about American culture. Yeah, I'm from South Africa. From South Africa. I'm from South Africa. Okay, so you understand. Yeah, I do.

So that was a risk. And then they make the woke guy the the the genocidal villain so i actually didn't i actually didn't mind that first movie and i could see a lot of bad people kind of uh performing fandom and not really but also they didn't love it like they loved endgame but um and i so i actually thought the movie was intelligent i i agree um t'challa the main character wants closed borders he says if we open up our borders they'll bring their problems into our country and we don't want that we're you know and so and not to mention it was a patriarchal society where women weren't allowed to rule and you won your well they fixed that they fixed that in the sequel don't worry but you win

your win your rule through trial by combat that's an offense that cannot be allowed to stand like thor who was too masculine for his own good and had to be turned into a fat joke yeah let me to reclaim the uh like most men on tv all right let me let me read this next one douglas gaplan says uh milo have you heard of frank turek he is pretty good explaining evidence for christ also tim it seems people here near me are getting used to shootings i was near one today as I was delivering car parts near Carnegie PA. Wow, crazy. I think that the shootings, I think your impression of the frequency of shootings, I mean, everybody seems to notice they're sort of happening a bit more often. The press just reports selectively as per their priorities on any given day. I mean, if I had to guess, I would imagine that they're getting more frequent.

There's definitely a pharmaceutical component to that. There are some systemic root causes that all come back to the things we've been talking about, mostly fatherlessness. In a completely feminized culture with an endemic single motherhood. I mean, most young men have no male role models. And think about the people who were crowned male role models over the last 10 years. Dylan Mulvaney. Me, I was gay. Jordan Peterson, a drug addict.

These are very, very damaged people in different ways, which just shows you how desperate uh you know this age is for heroes right um but there are role models everywhere you look they just you just have to work a bit harder i get so many emails from women who say how should i vote because i know i know i know this is outside my sphere um and now i just say don't because you know it's the least you can do after you know everything all right. Eden. All right. But there was this first part of his question. Oh, do you know Frank Turek? I know the name. I'll check into that.

Thank you. Makise Kuristina says, oh, okay, I understand. My grandmother was born in 1920 and lived to be 100. She always said that the downfall of this country was giving the woman the vote. Had 15 kids, never had a career, and said if every woman had her life, her life no one would complain blissfully happy i bet that she

was the happiest woman in the world uh and um you'd be amazed at how many grandmothers and specifically grandmothers who have the benefit of wisdom and are seeing uh secondary generations right um you'd be amazed how many grandmothers write to me and say, you're absolutely right. Do you think there's going to be a reckoning where these childless millennial women are 70 years old without families, that they're going to be upset?

I'm going to try to persuade Marjorie to introduce a Friend in Need is a Friend Indeed Act that removes the vote from people who are on antidepressant drugs. Just sit back and enjoy the fallout. You know, half the Democrat base, she... I don't want to incriminate her in that. There's no way she'll ever do that.

But, you know, I would pass a law that says that, you know, to care for the most vulnerable in our society, we don't want to expose them to traumatic, stressful, and triggering events like the high-pressure environment of voting in elections. Anxiety. Aren't you on anti-anxiety medication? So if you are one of those people and you've had a prescription for anxiety or depression medication in the last 12 months, we're going to ask you to sit this election out. That would be an enjoyable fallout. I'd like that. Maury says, this episode is too based. the amount of red-pilled truths being spoken here

is insane there's a handful of people who are like wow tim ian and luke aren't talking and there's two things i'll say to that one uh what milo was saying was interesting to hear your thoughts articulated as as they were but also it's been a while since people have heard for you heard from you and to hear your kind of uh your your stance on things you know you said you have it's been a while since people have heard from you and to hear your stance on things. It's been a long time since you've spoken, and here you are speaking for quite a bit, explaining a lot of what you've seen over the past few years. It feels like you've got to get a lot off your chest,

and you haven't talked in how long? Oh, I'm also just very rude, and I just bang on forever. But it's interesting. Most of it's good material, so people put up with me. No, I'm just not a particularly courteous interlocutor um but uh thanks we are going to head over to the members only show so if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button and become a member at timcast.com click join us sign up we are going to have a members only show and i imagine it's going to

be very very interesting because there's a lot that uho's written down on those post-its. I've got so many post-its for things that I'm not allowed to say. I don't think you understand. I have been living in fear. I can't even read out what's on the post-its. We'll explain it. We'll explain it and we'll show. And then you know what I want to do? I want to actually mail those out to people as post-its.

So anyway. Well, yeah, when you see them, you'll want to do that. Become a member at TimCast.com. And also, if you want to support us in our cultural endeavors, we released a song. It's called Genocide. It's available at LosingMyMind.com. You can buy it on iTunes, Amazon, or wherever. A moment of uplifting mood fix for them.

Well, the song, I mean, it is in that we mock the establishment. And we CG animated a bunch of journalists to sing words about how they're evil people. It's called genocide i confess to complete ignorance about the idiom you operate in because i'm uh i i can't tell songs apart in that particular genre um but but perhaps you could perhaps you could you could give me a smattering after the show yeah we'll show you and um if you guys want to support us tomorrow is the last day for billboard tracking in the first week and we're hoping to have a big a bigger impact in the last song. This one's overtly political.

So it would be nice to have some kind of jab at the establishment making to the charts with your support. You can follow the show at TimCast IRL. You can follow me at TimCast. And I want to make sure I stress I see a lot of people are becoming members on YouTube. Not on YouTube. Go to TimCast.com. We have a private TimCast.com membership. We can't post these videos on YouTube go to TimCast.com there is a we have a private TimCast.com membership

we can't we can't post these videos on YouTube I see a lot of people are becoming members on YouTube so I will stress again not YouTube membership

that's not where the video will be you see what they've done to you they've put you in the position of a scolding scolding how dare you scolding the viewers give me money

scolding the viewers who have invested in you the most I just want to make sure see what they've done to you no no it's that people really want to hear the show and if they're getting it from the wrong spot they're gonna be no no you're not doing anything i'm just i'm just i'm i'm stunned by the injustice and dysfunction of it we'll talk about it milo do you want to shout anything out

no no no i'm quite happy being left alone any last words of encouragement i'll go on forever so i'll skip it. You will. But it was great and it was fascinating and a great conversation. Thank you so much for coming. My YouTube channel is youtube.com forward slash wearechange.

We don't always agree. I read all the chats and I love the debate. Let's have the conversation. I made a lot of arguments in my video today. I also talked about what's happening

with Twitter and Facebook. Start the conversation. Let's build up the biggest, what is it, steel man argument we can and let's get at it. YouTube.com forward slash WeAreChange. Thank you so much for having me. Actually, there was a small thing. I just wanted to say thank you for inviting me.

Which is a choice out of step, let's say, with your guest booking strategy of late and probably not without risk. So thank you for that. No problem.

I don't think so. I think you're exactly the kind of person we hope to sit down and talk with. I was in two minds about it because the lighting in here is so unflattering.

But I did get a fake tan imperiling my recovery from homosexuality. Well, let's talk about that, too. We should probably save that, yeah. But, yeah, no, thank you for doing it. Oh, thanks for coming, man. You have built something here

that perhaps you can begin to activate the full potential of. It's quite exciting, so thanks for having me. Right on. Thanks for coming, man. That was great. Guys, follow me, Ian Crossland, if you want to, on the internet,

anytime, anywhere. Love you, Milo. And Luke, Tim, Serge. That was great. Guys, follow me, Ian Crossland, if you want to, on the internet, anytime, anywhere. Love you, Milo. And Luke, Tim, Surge. Splurge. Yes, I am at surge.com everywhere. Thanks for coming, Milo.

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