Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #657 Pharma LOSES BILLIONS After Fake Tweet, Twitter IN CHAOS w/Corin Nemec, Amanda Milius

Episode Date: November 12, 2022

Tim, Ian, Luke, & Serge join Corin Nemec & Amanda Milius to discuss a big pharma stock tanking after a verified user poses as the official account, Facebook firing over 11,000 employees, GOP winning t...he Nevada governor race, Mexico using footage from Philadelphia to keep kids off drugs, and over a dozen countries applying to join BRICS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Twitter's in chaos, man. So basically what happens is people have been creating accounts, signing up for Twitter Blue on the iPhone, getting instantly verified, and somebody made a fake Twitter account for Eli Lilly, a big pharma company, and tweeted that insulin would be free. And then first thing, their market cap just collapses. Stock price plummeting billions. And the speculation is that the fake verified tweet
Starting point is 00:00:27 that went viral convinced people that some big move was happening and it caused chaos in the market twitter has suspended twitter blue you can no longer get verified elon shut it down wow it's getting crazy they brought back the double verification for advertisers so now they're verified and then they also have an extra verification. Yo, if the end result of all of this is that Twitter just blows up, I ain't gonna cry all that much about it. I mean, there's a net positive to having this social network for sure,
Starting point is 00:00:54 but so be it. It's the activist organizing ground and people who believe in liberty and individualism are banned from it, so yeah, okay, fine, whatever. But that's an interesting story in and of itself. We got a lot more to talk about. Carrie Lake, she says she's not going to be giving up. The the current trends suggest she will win even though she's down. However, that's just a trend. When people when when the experts, they come out and they're like looking at 2020s data,
Starting point is 00:01:21 it looks like the last ballots coming through are absentee drop-offs, most of them. And those skew Republican, but the trend may not be predictive. We don't know. So it's entirely possible she doesn't. However, again, based on the trends that we've seen last year and they're playing out exactly the same way this year, they do believe she will win. But it is not over. So we'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:01:44 The other big news lauren bobert's now winning and expected to win despite all the mockery people are throwing at her but that's it and uh i don't know i don't know to what degree the story is true but ann coulter is basically saying that donald trump is not going to support walker in georgia for the runoff which is just crazy because okay fine whatever but you know like so long as republicans win the house i think we'll get to see some something happen in the next couple of years so it's going to be a lot of fun before we get started head over to timcast.com become a member you know the drill join us click that button to help support our work we got a bunch of really awesome uh videos we had my i don't know
Starting point is 00:02:18 i don't know what was doubling up the audio that was that was from the website we got uh special members only with mile yenopolis that that you definitely want to check out. And then we had a Members Only yesterday with CJ and Chad Prather where we talked about a CBS show. This is insane. That has a Milo Yiannopoulos-based character accusing DeSantis of, let's just say, not acquiring consent for adult activities. It's just – it's absolutely insane. We talk about that. We break that down.
Starting point is 00:02:43 If you want to watch, check it out. And we're going to start sending knickknacks randomly to commenters you know every week or so we're going to pull some random comments from the members only section hit you guys up and be like yo hey we're going to send you one of the knickknacks from the show we've got post-its from milo he wrote about censorship we're going to be sending those out soon and then we've got a bunch of other stuff we'll probably just give all of ian's stuff away because you got too much you got like 500 rocks they're mine tim they're they're his okay no i'll give some rocks away let's do it ian's rock here we want a ruby one of his rocks all right everybody so smash the
Starting point is 00:03:12 like button subscribe to this channel share the show right now share it everywhere if you really want to help joining us today to talk about this and so much more is the ever lovely amanda millius welcome back thanks who are you uh the person who um is allergic to drinking that uh is having coffee and uh that is nice yeah tell your listeners just relax everything's gonna be fine are people commenting about it or something probably uh it was a hot topic it's been a hot topic for the rest of my life. Thank you very much. Chad Prather did leave tequila on the table. No, dude.
Starting point is 00:03:49 No, no. As I said, I don't drink. Milo's wine is right here, by the way. No, I'm good. And we all saw what happened. People literally asked me if I quaaluded myself. Wow. You don't make those anymore.
Starting point is 00:04:01 I mean, I can understand why. It's like you have this long career. You're doing all this work. No, I've done all these things. And then people are like, you're the drug chick. No, no, no. That happens. So, sorry.
Starting point is 00:04:10 At CPAC or anywhere, if I go to like any conference that's not like NatCon, where like I know everybody, seven out of 10 people will come up to me and they'll be like, hey, are you Amanda Milius? And I'm like, yeah, hi. I'm like, okay, they want a picture. Or they're like, oh, your movie meant so much to me. Or like, da, da, da, da, da, are you Amanda Milius? And I'm like, yeah, hi. I'm like, okay, they want a picture. Or they're like, oh, your movie meant so much to me. Or like, da-da-da-da-da,
Starting point is 00:04:28 as it used to be. Now, it's just like, God, that was really funny. You were just hammered on Timcast. Can I get a picture? And I'm like, okay. Thanks. Well, you're sober now. Yeah, I am.
Starting point is 00:04:42 And I can explain. I'm literally allergic to alcohol. So we're having some coffee. We've got some lip gloss. I don't know if you need some, if anybody needs some lip gloss. And we've got some water. I've got turmeric coffee.
Starting point is 00:04:53 I'm really excited for this. Dude, that's awesome. That's going to be good for your whole system. I like that. So Amanda, thanks for hanging out. Thanks for having me back. Of course, of course. We also have the very intrepid
Starting point is 00:05:06 and famous Corin Nemec. Hi, how are you? So who are you, good sir? Well, Corin Nemec, I am an actor, writer, producer, and all around good guy. All around. Yeah, yeah. Not available, though. Sorry, ladies. For work or personally?
Starting point is 00:05:22 Personally. Is there something someone that they may remember you from? Is there a show or anything you want to? Oh, loads of stuff. I mean, I started acting as a child actor. And the first movie I did was with Francis Ford Coppola called Tucker, The Man and His Dream, playing Noble Tucker, Jeff Bridges' son in that. But then I did the last season of Webster.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I was Nikki Papadopoulos. I shared a room with Webster for a year while my parents were off teaching Africans how to grow potatoes. That was true to the storyline, by the way. And then went on to do Parker Lewis Can't Lose not too long after that.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Loads of movies in between that and Stargate and then was on Supernatural for a while and a bunch of other, just tons of other stuff. Loads of stuff going on right now. Stephen King's It. And also was in The Stand. I was in The Stand, the miniseries. The Stand.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Playing Harold Louder. Crazy movie. Yes, yes. That was great. The original. The good one. The good one. Yeah, the one worth watching.
Starting point is 00:06:20 The original is always the good one. That works for Red Dawn as well, obviously. And Apocalypse Now. A lot of people who watch are big fans of Stargate, so obviously the chat was all loaded up with SG-1 stuff. Yeah, the Stargate is real, by the way. I just want everybody to know that. Someone believes you, right?
Starting point is 00:06:36 I'm like, I knew it. Eric Von Daniken, he's proved it, I think. So you were a child actor, and I don't know if this is too personal or not, but they tried to make me do that, too, because my parents are from Hollywood and I grew up there. So you made it through. You never got raped or anything.
Starting point is 00:06:51 You're good. Lord knows I did not, but I did go to Alfie's Soda Pop Club, which was rape central for kids. Man, you made it out. You're like the only one. Yeah, there's nothing funny about it. Have you ever been hypnotized? No, I have not.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Maybe you should try it and just see if... No, no, no, certainly not. All right. Thanks for joining us. We got Luke, of course. Well, that's a very... I'm 100% sober. Well, that's a very interesting necklace there, Korn.
Starting point is 00:07:17 So this should be a very illuminating conversation. I don't know if you're trying to get recruited, but I don't know if this is the show to do it. Anyway, my name is Luke Grodowski here of We Are Change.org. I come here with one simple message. Become ungovernable. I love that. The less government, the better, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:07:34 And if you agree, you can get the shirt on thebestpoliticalshirts.com. I want to talk about the necklace. I want to talk about everything people are talking about in the chat room, so it should be a great conversation. I want to get one. What necklace is it? Oh, it's a Freemasonic one. That'll be interesting. Let's talk about everything people are talking about in the chat room so it should be a great conversation what necklace is it? it's a Freemasonic one that'll be interesting, let's talk about it
Starting point is 00:07:48 so is the main Masonic temple in Washington, the one in Alexandria is it in my brain? is it reading my thoughts? it's the biggest one the thing at the top what is it doing to my brain? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:08:07 That's something you have to figure out for yourself. So I need to get hypnotized, apparently. All right, all right. We'll talk about it. We got Ian, though. I defer my time to the people talking about Masonic imagery. No, I'm just kidding. I don't have anything to start off with,
Starting point is 00:08:21 except I found out egg whites can be transformed into a material capable of filtering microplastics from seawater. This is news. There's nothing that eggs can't do. Dude, chickens. It tastes good. Make yourself some chickens. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Grow some chickens. Slonk some eggs, guys. What's up? Y'all got some raw eggs we can slonk real quick before the show starts? I have one in my pocket. Slonk like five before the show. We have hundreds. Cooked eggs.
Starting point is 00:08:43 They were cooked. Surge, what's happening, brother? Hey, just hanging out. Hopefully I don't screw up my intro today. All right. Let's jump into this first story. We have this tweet from Unusual Whale. It says, this is wild.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Yesterday, a fake account tweeted that Eli Lilly and co. was giving insulin for free. It was verified on Twitter. Lilly is now down 5% or roughly $20 billion. Here's the tweet. It gets crazier because it's not just Eli Lilly. They tweeted out with this fake. It's Eli Lilly and co.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Verified. We are excited to announce insulin is free now. Take a look at this from Investors Business Daily. Eli Lilly dives after fake Twitter account promises free insulin,
Starting point is 00:09:23 takes Novo Nordisk, Sanofi with it. Twitter is going crazy. There was a bunch of fake posts that were pretty hilarious. The George Bush one? I was just going to say,
Starting point is 00:09:37 the George W. Bush one. George W. Bush allegedly posted, I miss killing Iraqis. Tony Blair was like, me too. Lockheed Martin said that they're going to stop selling weapons to Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the United States based on an investigation into human rights.
Starting point is 00:09:51 So there's someone trolling here. And at the end of the day, you know, Big Pharma already made a lot of profit. This is not going to really hurt them. And it's not going to hurt them like they hurt the American people. That's right. I was thinking about this earlier. One I really liked was from Nestle.
Starting point is 00:10:08 It said, we steal your water and sell it back to you. Where's the lie? That's true. Where is it? Suddenly Twitter is entirely truthful, except the fact that insulin is not going to be free. No, but what I was thinking as I was driving back from dinner, I was just like, man, this is really crazy. All this stuff's happening. And then I was like, this is like the coolest thing ever.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Yeah. It's just everything's been so routine and so boring. And these fake tweets because of Elon has resulted in like a shock to the system. This is exactly what I've been talking about. Elon Musk threw a pie. I've been saying. Someone figuratively threw that pie. Trump 2015.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Yeah. Elon 2024. That energy 2024 we're wrong it's not desantis it's not it's elon well he's not american he's south african but he does get a lot of money from the government but but what he did here is is make twitter interesting presidents before haven't we sorry no oh wait oh don't get don't go there but but he did make twitter very interesting and this could be why there's allegedly record users on the platform today. Because it's so wild. It's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:11:07 You never know what's going to happen. They're not losing. That's the thing is that Twitter's not losing users. They're losing money. Yeah. Well, we will see. But they're losing other people's money. But they're not.
Starting point is 00:11:20 No, they're losing their own money. Elon said that they might go out of business. Elon actually said we may not survive the economic downturn unless we get subscribers but that was when he took it over no no this was like a day ago no that's what i'm saying he came into a failing business yes yeah look at what's happening with facebook right now sort of there's no the ad revenue stopped the big advertisers paused their money oh right activists went and said do it or else yeah elon's like we got to fill that gap with subscriptions and now they're saying i can't do that what they might do is make it so that twitter blue verified accounts are the only way to see
Starting point is 00:11:55 tweets and all non-paid accounts will go into like a subcategory i've heard that that you have to search for like you can we were already there though i was shadow banned for 11 months it was I've heard that. 94.3 and it was only after I had hit 100k in less than a year. So when you hit that number, something got triggered. So all of a sudden, Elon buys Twitter and in a week, I'm back up over 100k. That's not nothing. That's weird. I'll give you this
Starting point is 00:12:37 simple version. I'll give you the simple version. It's exactly what happened. The reason Twitter was the free speech wing of the free speech party is because it was operating on investor cash. They built up this big platform making something fun and exciting. Then the investors came and said, when do we get our return? And they said,
Starting point is 00:12:53 we will start selling ads. They did. The advertisers said, hey, we want to buy more ads, but you got a bunch of Nazis on the platform. And they said, okay, we'll ban them. Then a bunch of activists were like, that conservative guy is also a Nazi. And they said, okay, we'll ban them. They bunch of actors activists were like that conservative guy is also a nazi and they said okay we'll ban them exactly they slowly started chopping away at the block trying to make something that could sell to advertisers killing the whole system in the process in 2015 twitter was on the verge of shutting down completely people don't know this
Starting point is 00:13:18 it was about to go out of business until donald trump signed up or he was on donald trump was already there until he came in and started tweeting up a covfefe and then all of a sudden it was exciting. Ads were making money again, but Twitter had to keep censoring because the activists were screaming and the advertisers were listening. This is the best analysis I think I've heard
Starting point is 00:13:38 on what actually happened. This is exactly what happened. That's pretty good. I buy that. Inside the company, Jack Dorsey is like, we need to find a way to make this work. And so he promises me years ago, like, we're going to create a path to redemption. They never do. And it's because of this. Elon comes in and says, I'm going to bring excitement back to the platform.
Starting point is 00:13:59 And the advertisers immediately jump ship. Now he says they're burning $4 million a day. Subscription is the only way to save the platform, or he should gut the whole thing. The video files should be done through like BitTorrent or decentralization. I'll tell you, you look at
Starting point is 00:14:15 Parler, Gab, Mastodon, they're certainly not spending $4 million a day to operate. Elon could grind the whole company down to a skeleton crew and make it a bare bones text communication platform. Video and photo can be hosted on other platforms. You can do a partnership with Rumble. That'll cut his costs way down.
Starting point is 00:14:31 There you go. Elon, take your company. One pride. I mean, that was pretty on point. Are you on the platform? It's a showstopper. Are you on the platform? Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:38 And how do you like it so far? Well, I tell you what, you know, when it first started, I was having a lot of fun because there was just so many ridiculous, you know, when it first started, I was having a lot of fun because there was just so many ridiculous, you know, stupid cat memes and all kinds of fun stuff. I mean, I was having a gas just clowning. That's pretty much what I do
Starting point is 00:14:53 now on my side. I try not to take it too seriously because it's just, it can get too heavy. Life is so heavy as it is with everything that's going on. It's not for serious things. So that's what I attempt to do. Even if I'm making political comments, I try to do it in an offhanded sort of way that hopefully brings some kind of sense of humor to it rather than just like always just being dark about everything. I hear you.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Yeah, the person I am on Twitter, I believe or I hope is not the person I am in real life. Like I've tried to explain to people like how to have a good Twitter account or whatever. Not like I have some great Twitter account, but it's like my way of saying it is the worst parts of my personality I save for Twitter. I'm like, I'm actually a nice
Starting point is 00:15:38 person. So people meet me in real life and they're like, oh, like you're actually like really nice and like not like, like, because on Twitter all I do is shred people, but i shred people on my side that's the thing if we're going to play sides here politically i shred people on the political right who are lying to people i shred phonies that's my big thing right like the other day i went after there's a lot of phonies out there yeah and so like that's that's where i kind of find my role because I don't work for anybody. And so everybody works for somebody, right?
Starting point is 00:16:07 Like everybody thinks they're going to come back into some magical administration or something like that. I am the boss. Like what am I going to fire myself? So that's the one thing I can give is to be truthful. What I do on Twitter is I basically just tweet the exact opposite of things. Yeah. Yeah. Great. No, that's awesome.
Starting point is 00:16:27 4D Trump chess today? Oh, no, I said 12th dimensional. And then I said Trump's level of chess playing is so advanced he surpassed M-theory. It's very esoteric. M-theory has 11 dimensions. Trump's playing 12th dimensional chess. But no, I can't say exactly what I tweet. Not on YouTube, but that's the point is I realize that if you tweet something that's
Starting point is 00:16:50 factual based on factual news and a link to the news story, the media will twist the context of what you said to make you look bad. And they'll accuse you of things you didn't actually do. So this election integrity project or whatever accused me of being one of the biggest spreaders of like election misinformation or something, which is totally false because I use NewsGuard, which is this like, you know, they do a partnership with Microsoft for funding and they fact check. And so all the stories I'm putting out are just basic, you know. So then I realized, OK, all we got to do is share the story and say the opposite. And then I win because now they can't accuse me. So I'll like, if I see a story that is shocking to the narrative
Starting point is 00:17:25 that, you know, Biden commits X crime, I'll say, this is clearly false. Biden would never do something like this. You are all crazy conspiracy theorists. That's how I operate on Twitter. And, but some of the tweets are real.
Starting point is 00:17:35 So you just, you never know. That's awesome. And that way, if you're a journalist, you just have to ask me for a comment to figure out which one's actually how I feel or not. There you go.
Starting point is 00:17:43 I'm just there for the memes. That's not bad. The memes are, I think, a lifeline to free civilization that could actually save us during these very difficult times. The hammer thing has brought up some memes that have just been
Starting point is 00:17:57 odd. They've been just so funny. I had to do Gutfeld the night that that came out. The hammer wrestling match. Oh, yes. The pink hammers that you insert batteries into. Again, family-friendly show here. I apologize here. But it's not just Twitter having difficulties here.
Starting point is 00:18:16 The corporate media is now reporting that Twitter was only able to get about a half a million dollars from Twitter Blue itself. That's some of the reports that I haven't seen. Half a million dollars from twitter blue itself that's some of the reports that i haven't seen a million only half a million dollars was able to be made off of twitter blue according to some corporate media like a day i mean how long has it been allowed i mean it's been out for a day in total that's that's what's been on one week that's half a million for the whole month and they're trying to pause it they paused it till wednesday so it's like literally been two days yeah well you're saying still you're saying they paid $8. Everyone's paying for a 30-day thing.
Starting point is 00:18:47 They've made half a million dollars in 30-day subscriptions. But they need $4 million a day. Yes. So they need $30, what's that? $120 million a month. Slow down. It's been like two days. They paused it until Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:18:58 They kicked it open. If they made half a million dollars within, so it was like, I think it was Tuesday. I was able to, no, no, no, it wasn't. It was Wednesday. They paused it for the midterms, and then Wednesday it went live, and then it was shut down late last night or early in the morning. So it was barely up for two days, and he made half a million in subscriptions. They're going to get that same half a million again next month, but fair point, they need
Starting point is 00:19:22 four million per day. Exactly. I still got my check. I mean, when you're running a company with thousands of employees he already fired what was it a close to half of them keep going thousands of them and that makes me want him to be president too when he said that remember when he was like and he and they were they were they were saying it was gut-wrenching uh uh lack of emotion he just fired all these people and i was like so when it was geraldo Rivera. And I was like, so what you're saying is he should also be in charge
Starting point is 00:19:49 of personnel at the White House. Thank you. Finally, someone who would have the hoops and the balls to actually do something unlike someone else. But again, that's another topic. Don't want to go down that road. But the corporate media, the corporate media was gaslighting that all the
Starting point is 00:20:04 Twitter employees that were going to be fired were going to go to Facebook. Facebook was going to steal all of these great employees up. Literally, that's what they were saying. That's how much they were gaslighting people. Go for it. Twitter, excuse me, Facebook is firing 11,000 employees. They lost nearly $200 billion in just one afternoon. I don't think that's just 200 billion dollars in just one afternoon i don't think that's going to be happening anytime soon and there is something happening in the online
Starting point is 00:20:29 digital space that has advertisers pulling away from twitter even before elon musk bought it which is another perspective that people should understand here i don't think so centralized social media should be used for profit anyway um you know no i communist it's like making roads so that i can make money off of it and then me and my little prissy complaints which is no i want to put video clips on i want to put this on i want to do that because yeah but rumble i love rumble but rumble has problems what problems you problems? Well, they owe me millions of dollars to start with because they've put ripped copies of my movie up like every single day. Even though I know the CEO, I know the acquisitions guy, I know every single person over there. And they can't get the YouTube algorithm where you give YouTube an imprint of your content and there there can be no uh bootleg
Starting point is 00:21:27 versions and so it's like you know every week claims the money for you or something or a lot right exactly and so like well well once well we're on youtube like we're on google play so it doesn't do that but um and isn't that funny how actually the only once we were on youtube meaning we were helping youtube make money did they do that for us for the rest of the time we had to do fizz every single link had to be an actual takedown um but then and the best part is these people would put it up and they'd be like some a-hole named amanda millius is trying to take down plot against the president she's probably a leftist trying to keep us from the truth and And I'm like, have you watched the credits?
Starting point is 00:22:06 It's my movie. I'm taking it down because it cost money to make. And they're like, if this is so important, you should just put it out for free. And you're like,
Starting point is 00:22:14 right, that's right. Let's not build an industry. Let's just make, let's make like subpar art and just put it out for free. That'll really take down Hollywood. That'll work. Our people are so stupid. Sometimes it drives me nuts.
Starting point is 00:22:28 They said the same thing to Matt Walsh over What is a Woman. Oh, for sure. I'm sure they did. You need to release it for free. And they were like, guys, we're trying to compete here. I'm completely... Now listen, I get into it with Daily Wire all the time. I get into it with Jeremy. I get into it with Ben. I get into it... We've known
Starting point is 00:22:43 each other since back in LA. I almost feel like it's to me, I don't take it too personally. I'm just like, we're kind of like, you know, rolling around like it's fine. I supported Matt Walsh's that movie quite a bit because that was a very important movie. And I thought it was well, you know, that was something I liked that they did. When I don't like something, I say it. When I don't like something Dinesh does, I say it. When I don't like something I say it when I don't like something Dinesh does I say it when I don't like something like you know Steven Spielberg does I say it because I went to film school I like criticizing movies that's what I do like it's not a big deal it's only they take it so personally that they're just like oh my god um but yeah even on on stuff
Starting point is 00:23:24 like that, like I understand why they have that subscription model and why you just described the Twitter subscription model in such a way. I mean, it really is one of these things where once you let in advertisers, you're letting in a censor board. Advertising is a censorship board.
Starting point is 00:23:40 This is why we started pushing timcast.com, trying to build memberships to the website. That's why InfoWars only survives the way it does, and they're even going to go after him. This is the crazy thing, because I get hit up all the time by big networks being like, we should do a deal, and we're going to give you... But this is funny, because these people, and these are big networks, they seem to think I'm an idiot. And they're like, why don't you do a deal with us and we're going to pay you eight figures.
Starting point is 00:24:10 We're going to pay you all of this money. And I'm like, oh, yeah, okay. I know what you're saying. What you're saying is you want me to read ads five times per show. That's right. And then you'll make eight figures, take a cut off the top, and then give me. Dude, we don't do ads here on purpose because we don't want advertisers to do
Starting point is 00:24:26 contracts with us and then come back and be like you know that last episode you did we're not sure you know and then oh no
Starting point is 00:24:32 oh no we're gonna no no no we do a handful of ads per month we do like six and I'm like hey if you want to
Starting point is 00:24:38 advertise with us this is the show you get we had Milo Yiannopoulos the other day you got a problem with it don't run ads on our show that's how you have to be but they I know that if I sign one of these deals with any one of these networks they would have said something like We had Milo Yiannopoulos the other day. You got a problem with it? Don't run ads on our show. That's how you have to be.
Starting point is 00:24:55 But I know that if I sign one of these deals with any one of these networks, they would have said something like, you know, we don't think you should have Milo on because the current advertisers, that's exactly how it plays out. Not playing that game. Become a member at TimCast.com. I mean, you're totally right about that. I mean, that's the reason that, like, I'm, you know, you asked me a moment ago all right what's you know have you worked on a movie since plot against the president answer is no i'm building a company the reason i'm building this company is because i need a place where the conservative documentary and you know i'm working on a couple of scripted but that's just my thing um where the conservative world that's going to do documentaries that would normally just would crowdfund them and just put them out on YouTube or put them out for free on whatever. That's their only way of getting around the censorship is to not make money.
Starting point is 00:25:37 But that's not an industry. We're not going to beat Hollywood without being an industry, which is why even when I tussle with Daily Wire or I tussle with Dinesh D'Souza, who uses my movie as a as a search engine thing for his movie that did not as well. All of that, like, that's fine. You know, I get it. I'm sorry. Either, you know, there's competition. I would hate me, too, if I was him. But the fact is, is that you're not going to beat anything. You're not going to. You're not going to create this free speech world if you don't have a competitive industry. It is about the money. We need to be able to tell high-level artists, creatives.
Starting point is 00:26:15 We're going to pay you and we're going to pay the investors. We're going to hire you. And investing in us, we've got basically three companies. And then when they're working at these companies and they're told by their bosses they have to say woke stuff they can say no they can come here i can go work for anyone that's right and i can offer those people jobs and i don't have to and i can pay my investors and that's the great thing is that it's like like why the and then you're talking to these investors and a lot of my investors are republican donors i'm gonna be that i can say and you're like okay So you're going to light your money on fire
Starting point is 00:26:45 four times, you know, or every four years, every two years. And I get it. It's a tax write-off or it's a this or that or you're just ideological
Starting point is 00:26:53 or whatever it is. But I'm like, I'm not asking you to donate. You're investing in something where I am one of three companies that makes something for the entire United States. Tell me about like, how is that not like the greatest deal ever?
Starting point is 00:27:09 Well, more importantly, people need to understand that voting what your dollar is sometimes more important than just actually voting. Where you put your attention, where you click, what you watch absolutely matters. But you also have to put the money where your mouth is. And again, I used to rely on YouTube ads and they used to limit my ads and then they fully cut me off from the monetization program. You were the first. Yeah, I was literally, I was like what the hell's going on here? This doesn't really make sense here. We were the first ones to get hit with this.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Let me put this into context for everybody. Luke, you've been on YouTube since like YouTube started. 15, 16 years. There didn't used to be demonetization. Nope. There was you had ads turned on or ads turned off. And I believe that We Are Change was the first channel because they would
Starting point is 00:27:47 manually go in and turn the ads off on your channel. Yeah, without any notification, without any email. And you turned back on. Yeah, yeah. I was like,
Starting point is 00:27:54 what's going on here? And then no one knew what was going on. No one would get back to me. We snuck into a major YouTube party, talked to the head of monetization.
Starting point is 00:28:02 I don't know if you, do you remember that one when we snuck in with Casey Neistat? Oh, right. And I was there with the head of of monetization. I don't know. Do you remember that one when we snuck in with Casey Neistat? And I was there with the head of YouTube monetization. She's like, I'm so sorry. I don't know what's happening here. We're going to figure this out for you. Don't worry, Luke. We'll get back to you. They never got back to you. They were mad that we were in there. They were like,
Starting point is 00:28:15 uh-oh, how did they get in? What do we do? Do we kick them out? Yeah, we literally snuck in there. It was hilarious. It was awesome. It was a lot of fun. One of my own personal memories. But I just wanted to say, after they demonetized me, I was like, screw it. I'm going to It was a lot of fun. One of my own personal memories. But I just wanted to say, after they demonetized me, I was like, screw it. I'm going to start a t-shirt company. You can't censor t-shirts in the real life.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I started my own members area. You can't do that. And it's only because of user support that you're able to do what you're doing. That you're able to do what you're doing. And I'm able to do what I'm doing. That's true. I want to explain to people how easy it is. So we went, I can't remember where.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Was it VidCon or something? Yep. I don't know. Yeah,'m doing. That's true. I want to explain to people how easy it is. So we went, I can't remember where it was. It was VidCon or something? Yep. I don't know. Yeah, no, VidCon in California. And so we both knew people at YouTube. I knew a lot of people because I had consulted for Google and YouTube on live streaming technology and mobile stuff. And so when we go up to where this party is, I'm like, let's see what happens.
Starting point is 00:29:00 I see someone I know from YouTube and they're like, sorry. It's like, there's already a list, we can't let people in and I was like, come on we're here, you know who I am we just can't because there's capacity there's a super exclusive VIP party with a big list, security guards everywhere no one else is getting in no matter what
Starting point is 00:29:18 so Luke and I walk around the perimeter basically just taking a look at things because that's when you figure out what's going on and then we walk up to the entrance and then we waited there and then we saw casey neistat walking in with his entourage and then we just squeezed as close as possible to casey neistat and then he started yelling about how they were like they stopped him and they're like your friend can't come in he's like what are you talking about this is he's a big youtuber and then i'm like yeah you know like and and luke is like what do you what do you mean
Starting point is 00:29:44 and then finally they're like okay casey we're yeah, you know, like, and Luke is like, what do you mean? And then finally, they're like, okay, Casey, we're so sorry. You can bring your people in. He's like, all right. And then we walked on in. And then we didn't have any wristbands or anything. And then we were like, oh, we need a wristband. We didn't get one. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And they get a wristband. Is that easy? Yeah, yeah. If you're meant to be there, you will be there. Yeah. If you're persistent enough, you can get anything in life. But again, like, if you just follow the old model, if you follow the old models and you don't innovate you don't create your own members area you don't create merchandise you don't kind of think of ideas out of the norm you won't make it
Starting point is 00:30:13 in this business because this business is shutting down the door to anyone that dares to question any kind of reality yes there's up to stay one step ahead. But again, you got to give the credit to AJ on having done that back before any of us. I mean, at least I don't know about y'all. He was doing this before social media existed. That's what I'm saying. And it's like, and I remember that episode to this day will always be etched in my mind. when Matt Drudge showed up out of nowhere and did that episode. And he said, start your own websites.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Always have your own form of income. Do not let them put you in their little internet gulags. That's what they're going to try to do. And this was Matt Drudge before whatever happened to Matt Drudge where he sold the site or I don't know. I don't know what happened to Matt Drudge. But he sold the site, or I don't know. I don't know what happened to Matt Drudge. But the point is, is like this,
Starting point is 00:31:07 this was this episode. It was in like 20, I don't know. I was in like film school. So it must've been like 2014. I think I was warning in 2008 that there's going to be censorship coming on this platform.
Starting point is 00:31:18 So was Alex Jones. Yeah. And it was, it was like, it was about, but it was about exactly what you guys were talking about, where it was like,
Starting point is 00:31:23 you have to stay ahead of the curve, innovate, like sell other products, um, have, have your own website, like have your own member site, have your own,
Starting point is 00:31:32 this, that they can't control. Do not depend on YouTube. Do not depend always on just, you know, Twitter, social, whatever social media of the day was popular at that time.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Instagram, you can't expect the establishment to finance its own demise. they won't ever do it you know a good example that is i wanted to include corinne in this conversation and ask him how the industry has changed crazy as far as monetization as far as money has you have you noticed anything in the industry yeah man i mean i was thinking about that almost the whole time uh that you guys were talking about it because there there is a uh a shift that hasn't happened yet, and I'm not sure if they really know how to make it happen because the box that you're in
Starting point is 00:32:14 in the traditional way of doing distribution, that really comes with a lot of control mechanisms like you were just talking about. You know, there are certain parameters that you have to, you kind of have to meet creatively in terms of, yeah, you know, and that, but, but then where, where are you going to take your, your film, your original content and market it to get the same type of monetization potential as you would get in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Every single platform. So you take it, that's the thing. You just, it's just how you do the deals. That is the one thing I broke on Plot Against the President. That is the reason Amazon will not take documentaries anymore. But you never make an exclusive deal. Documentaries are a different beast. It's a different beast than scripted
Starting point is 00:32:58 content and stuff like that, especially when you're dealing with all the genre specific issues and stuff like that. But really it's about platforming. At the end of the day, there isn't right now currently, that I have found, a really strong distribution platform with direct monetization for the films where you're actually getting a percentage of the ad read
Starting point is 00:33:21 right away per view as it goes. Yeah, every person who's doing it as a grifter well there are a lot of grifters and every single person that has i have met with that i've sat with that was like we have a platform and it's going to be for all the people that are you know dissident culture and it's going to be about not censorship and it it's this and it's that. It's some guy who literally is taking somebody's money and running. I have one avenue that I think has done this properly. And it's Rockfin. Rockfin has a very good back end that's trustworthy.
Starting point is 00:33:58 And is actually, I believe, what they're telling me. As somebody who has a film that is the number one documentary to this day on Amazon on all the different weird platforms right because I want to try all of them because I was like I got it because eventually they're going to come for me they're not going to let me put something out I got to know what's the next big platform you're completely
Starting point is 00:34:18 right and I've been saying this for three years I've been saying this at every time I speak at at certain organizations that invite me to come speak regarding platforms. I say this every single time you build me the platform. I will give you the content. I make content. I don't make platforms.
Starting point is 00:34:35 So corn, where do you see this going? Well, I mean, what, what I, what I do see that's working interestingly enough with, with,
Starting point is 00:34:41 uh, run, hide, fight with daily wire and all of that is that, that I think that there's an opportunity for people who already have built out platforms to use those platforms themselves as a distribution outlet for scripted content. But then like five people see it. No, no, that's not true. You're talking about people who have millions of people, millions of followers on their platform and the reach that that can go to from there. I think
Starting point is 00:35:08 that that's one option because otherwise it goes back to a corporate, you know, a corporate style eventually anyway, when you have, you know, platforms that are, that are controlled by corporate interests. We got, we got, wait, wait, we got breaking news. We got breaking news. In Nevada, Steve Sisolak has conceded to Joe Lombardo in the Nevada's governor race. Oh, my God. This is a flip. Yes! The state of Nevada has just flipped to a Republican governor from a Democrat.
Starting point is 00:35:34 God! It's been four years in Nevada. Thank you, Jesus. You live in Nevada? No, I've worked on every campaign in Nevada that exists. Right on. That's how I started my political... So how do you really feel about this... I am so excited right now.
Starting point is 00:35:48 That is the best time. That guy sucks so bad. I am so happy that Nevada is going red. Bet on red, guys. Bet on red. Do you want to talk about this a little bit? I want to talk about this platform thing because I have an idea.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Well, let's... What are Laxalt's numbers at? Laxalt's not looking good. It's tightening up. So in Nevada, Adam Laxalt is... Where are we at? Yeah, but wasn't... It's down to...
Starting point is 00:36:17 They felt very confident. He's up by less than 1,000 votes, like 700, 800 votes. Yeah, but the votes that are coming in are... Are continually skewing Democrat. He was up by a lot more and it's getting tighter and tighter and tighter so they're actually i was reading really he's he may he may call for a recount or file he absolutely should 100 same thing with carrie lake do not stop fight it until finally they just say get out of the courtroom especially in nevada the Especially in Nevada. So last election, I did all, I was the last person to leave.
Starting point is 00:36:47 I was the last one on the last plane out of Nevada that didn't live there, right? That worked the election. Not the RNC people who were totally corrupt, took the money and ran the next day. But Nevada is a place where I would always do a recount. Always. And the thing is, it's not even possible, though. Because it's like... And I also want to add that Lauren Boebert is winning.
Starting point is 00:37:12 I'm not going to say. I think Lauren Boebert is basically one at this point. Lauren Boebert's up about 1,000, just over 1,000 votes in Colorado's third with 99% in. So she probably won. I hope. I mean, you would think. She so popular, like to her people. Well, but mail-in voting makes it. Yeah, again, again, 100%.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Yeah, Democrats get people who don't know what's going on to vote. And their kids. Whereas Republicans rely on people to actively get up and go vote. And feel something. That's super difficult. And that's why what you just said actually really matters. And I get in arguments with people about this all the time where they're like, oh, who cares about the culture? I don't want to talk about the culture war.
Starting point is 00:37:47 I just want to talk about we got to talk about like the votes and the elections. How are you meaning to create the kind of candidates and the kind of citizens that want to get up and vote and vote for the type of candidates that we need to have if you don't have the culture element? That stuff, that's why it matters so much. I'm not saying one's more important than the other. Obviously, I'm partial to culture because that's what I do, you know. But I also do politics. So it's like, yeah, without like educating your country,
Starting point is 00:38:16 you're not going to get the outcomes that you want. Yeah, I think you need the technological element too. And to piggyback off this conversation about platforming and how distribution, the future of content distribution, I think about this. I'm so stoked about that. I think the biggest problem, one of the biggest problems with content distribution
Starting point is 00:38:31 is piracy, internet piracy, where someone will take your content and repost it somewhere. So if you could somehow have content so that there's tags in it or something that every time it's reposted somewhere else, it's still tracked back to the creator and you actually encourage sites to pirate content
Starting point is 00:38:46 and sell it and you get a person you get 98 of the sale the site that sells it for you gets two percent and then everyone's going to be selling your art you're they're going to have websites of people selling tens of thousands of movies for you that's not dumb that is a smart way of doing things and that needs that is something that we need to look at because it's not that i'm against i mean look i have i grew up not paying for music i grew up not paying for all the movies i've seen okay i get it i get it but the problem is i have investors i have people that i made a promise to fiduciary duty you know you can't just let this stuff out for free. But I don't know if you can technically...
Starting point is 00:39:29 Or you make terrible movies that go up on YouTube that are just made out of crap. I agree. I think that tracking... I didn't say a bad word. I said crap. I'm doodling pictures of kids. Tracking the money is key. And if you could somehow Meta tag the content itself
Starting point is 00:39:46 Like the movie And then just allow Because piracy is going to happen We can't stop it The crazy thing Tim is I'm not even I'm just drinking coffee That's probably it
Starting point is 00:39:54 You don't have an excuse It's the coffee You don't have an excuse What's in that coffee? You try it It's nice It's just black I don't want it
Starting point is 00:40:02 It's too late I'm drawing a picture I won't be able to sleep I'm drawing a picture of Bocas Somebody home yeah but but but going back i mean i think another another big issue that that we run into is the is the marketing dollars how do you get you know how do you get the attention that you that you need in order to drive traffic to whatever whatever platform you're on so something interesting interesting? Well, I mean, sure. Sorry, that's the Daily Wire speaking problem. No, no.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Westerns for conservatives? Are you kidding me? I think almost all westerns were made for conservatives. That's what I mean. But that said, I just think that they... Surely they can improve on the genre. I mean, definitely. I just did one. I just wrote one based on a graphic novel that we
Starting point is 00:40:43 just shot in New Mexico with Stephen Dorf and Cole Hauser starring in Jack Kilmer called Dead Man's Hand. It's based on the same company that I gave you that comic book, Rotten Tail. Source Point Press did a graphic novel, a Western, Dead Man's Hand, that we just finished shooting a couple weeks ago, actually. Have you experienced the wokeness i mean i know earlier there was talk about the pedophilia but there's also the wokeness in the industry which is also a big issue you know i mean for me i i just i i've i've been on my own path in the industry since day one really i i growing up in the industry i was a graffiti artist before i was an actor and i kept hanging with all my all my buddies that I grew up doing graffiti art with.
Starting point is 00:41:26 What was your handle? Hanging out. If you don't mind. My first one, my first one was Chrome, uh, K R O M E. Uh,
Starting point is 00:41:32 I got caught in 10th grade because me and my buddy Dapper were tagging high schools and junior highs on Sunday nights so that everybody would see our, our get ups on Monday morning. It was a great way to get up. But, uh, and then I, then I switched over to Pike, which is, uh, which is something that I still use. so that everybody would see our get-ups on Monday morning. It was a great way to get up. And then I switched over to Pike, which is something that I still use. I still paint to this very day. But yeah, yeah, I grew up in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Where did you go to high school? North Hollywood High. Okay. Were you there too, Amanda? Yeah. That's one way to get motivated to go to school. The indoctrination centers that they call schools. Oh, man. Yeah, North Hollywood we had back in the 80s we had you know they used to put chains around the doors when once school started
Starting point is 00:42:09 in the morning and lock you in from the outside and we had barbed wire fences 12 foot high all the way i was like going to prison every day for you know five six hours but uh but it was safe it was predominantly safe no man people got knifed, shot, beaten with poles. I saw a guy's shoulder get collapsed in the quad. And we had full-blown riots. It was insane, man. It was absolutely insane going in the 80s, the gang wars of the 80s and everything else. And it was a wild time, no doubt.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Dude, make a movie about that. I want to see that. They did a couple times. I want to see that. They did a couple times. I went to school in the 90s in New York City. And again, metal detectors when you walk in, craziness. You can't even imagine. You can't even describe. We had LAPD.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Well, they still do, I'm sure. But in the 80s, we had LAPD on campus. So you had like principal, assistant to principal, dean, assistant to dean, LAPD. We had two armed police officers on campus every day. We had a cop that drove around campus all day long, and still people got shot and stabbed and beaten and everything else. It was great times. Chicago, you're just walking down the street,
Starting point is 00:43:12 people are shooting at each other. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes it's because the gangs will be like, just kill that person to prove your... Yeah, that was going on in the 80s, too. A lot of assassinations, though. They'll say, like, this guy, they target, you know? Yeah. Well, I guess we can move on topics but just to cap off this talk about distribution models you were saying that
Starting point is 00:43:28 marketing money you said that the key is i mean it's it's it's a it's about driving traffic how do you get the how do you get the eyeballs on on some content that you're trying to independently platform without a big distribution or or or major uh a film company behind you or backing you, you know. So there is a model to be able to do it, but where is it going to be platformed? That's the thing. And how do you get the money directly? So, you know, are you charging per view on the platform? People go in? Is it, I mean, what is it? It's not there yet. It doesn't exist yet. So I am interested in the future of platforming of original content. But right now, I have to go with the old model. I mean, I'm doing Lifetime movies for Lifetime Channel, writing and producing them.
Starting point is 00:44:16 And they're very specific, genre-oriented. They're sold there. They're sold to TF1 in France. They're guaranteed certain sales and all that. So the profit margin is locked in for the investors. And, you know, and if one of them escapes and does better than it's expected to, great. But, you know, the protection for the investor and for everybody else involved creatively is doing these specifically genre films, you know, that are guaranteed a certain sale on the front end.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Because a lot of distribution companies, they promise you a back end that you never get. See, I don't want to live like that, though. See, that's the thing is like, you're right. You are correct. That is the model. That's the tried and true model that they taught us at school that's been going on since forever but i think i had a win doing it my way absolutely and i want to keep pushing that envelope yeah because i i can't like announce what the idea is for the next thing because then it won't work right because i just told everybody
Starting point is 00:45:22 what it was but i i i think i can break the machine yeah and i want to break the machine because you shouldn't have to do that you shouldn't have to be like stuck in this i i know exactly what you're talking about i just did cam this year for the first time yeah and it was the most like depressing gross experience of like walking around and every single country made the same six movies. And like, you're like,
Starting point is 00:45:47 this is not like the home of cinema, not to mention like, like the obsession with the Ukraine where you, you would think that like the Ukrainian film had been like the cornerstone of European cinema for a hundred years. It was so bananas, but yeah, I,
Starting point is 00:46:03 I like, I think I'm in a position that i can smash that and i i don't disagree with you what you're describing is the model and like yeah i just i just don't want to live like that yeah there's a way to break the mold there's a way to break them i think it's easier with documentaries though too because documentaries have a different lasting they have a different lasting, they have a different shelf life than when you're marketing something. But we're not doing just docs, though. I mean, that's the thing is we have literally half the company is docs, half the company is scripted. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:35 And, like, I don't, yeah. I just mean in the grassroots, you know, putting it out there and getting it on this platform. And then you find another platform and then another one and another one. I think I fixed the PR element. I'll tell you what it is after the show. Okay, cool. I look forward to it. You gotta get me into that Mason, that big thing near
Starting point is 00:46:53 my place, the lodge. I think women are not allowed into it. Some lodges are. I think there's all female lodges and all female organizations. No, you can go look at it. They have tours. You just can't go up very high.
Starting point is 00:47:08 They have George Washington's kind of Freemasonic site here in Washington. So which is it? Do the Jews run everything or is it the Masons? Because the Masons don't let you in if you're Jewish. No, that's not true. That's not true. This is from Battlestar Galactica. So you're telling me there's chairs.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Do you guys know what ship this is? This ship? Do you know what this ship is? No. From Battlestar Galactica. So you're telling me there's a chance. Do you guys know what ship this is? This ship? Do you know what this ship is? No. From Battlestar Galactica? It looks like a Kestrel. I don't know exactly what it is. It was a gift.
Starting point is 00:47:33 But have any of you seen Lord of the Flies? Have any of you read or seen Lord of the Flies? No. Okay, this is the conch shell. You can only talk if you're holding it. I like it. Oh, this is the conch shell. Bring order to chaos.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Are you having a panic right now? Well, I will say... Me? Are you having a bit of a panic? No, but I think the viewers are starting this is a comic show. Bring order to chaos. Are you having a panic right now? Well, I will say, I will say. Are you having a bit of a panic? No, but I think the viewers are starting to complain a whole lot. So how about you hold the spaceship and you can start talking about your ideas. Well, this, I mean, you said Lord of the Flies. I just have to give a shout out to Balthazar Getty then because that's one of my old,
Starting point is 00:47:59 me and him were best friends growing up together and that was his first film. He did a great job as, you know, as the lead in that. This is fantastic. Now I'm distracted i love models i love miniatures and stuff so this is just i could look at this all day yeah i'm all about it i now i forgot what we were talking about oh i don't know should we talk about something yeah let's talk about stuff masons whatever you guys want so the mason conversation is pretty let's talk about that what's going on that mason stuff um well for me i mean i you know i i've been interested in in kind of the conspiracy theories and stuff like that my since i was a teenager and uh my when i found out that you know freemasons were the illuminati and all of this i was like wait a
Starting point is 00:48:41 second my grandfather and great-grandfather were both masons, and they sure as hell weren't involved in any kind of weird racket like that. And so I got more interested in the philosophical side of it and reading, you know, some Masonic books and literature, and came to realize that it's more of a principled, philosophical way of thinking and and and applying uh analogies uh kind of you could say construction analogies to life really you know um but uh so i i got interested in it from that from from that aspect and then when i got into my 20s joined the lodge in san antonio perfect union lodge number 10 around 1997 and did my three primary decrees uh up through uh you know the year 2000 yeah i mean uh you know freemasonry is is you know a lot of people call it a secret society uh so obviously you can't talk about some of the secrets so what are some of the secrets yeah i'm just no no no
Starting point is 00:49:36 yeah you can talk about anything like that the only thing you can't you can't discuss are just the the actual initiation rites and and the dialogue that's used in the initiation. Were you able to meet any kind of prominent people through it? There's been, I mean, I've been to the Grand Lodge in London a number of times, to the tea room there, and there's definitely
Starting point is 00:49:54 some pretty interesting folks that were hanging around there. But, you know, overall, my interest in it is purely philosophical and fraternal. I really enjoy traveling the world and going to other lodges and meeting other brothers who have the same kind of, you know, philosophic mindset and curiosity. Yeah, I know like Shaquille O'Neal is also like a Freemason. There's a lot of other prominent people that are also Freemasons.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Yeah, Prince Hall Lodges are huge. They're very, very active. I'm pretty sure that I'm correct that he's in Prince Hall Lodge, which I have a number of good friends that are in Prince Hall Lodge. And is it true that they all go back to the ideology? Who was it who invented Freemasonry in
Starting point is 00:50:36 the United States? Was it Albert Pike? No, Albert Pike introduced Scottish Rite Freemasonry after the Civil War, which I'm really not into. I think that's more of the side that sort of is where the illuministic side kind of comes from. And to me, I think they sponge off the Blue Lodge by this thing of offering more light,
Starting point is 00:50:57 you know. So, oh, there's 33 degrees or 32 degrees with the 33rd being a bestowed degree. But, you know, they keep offering more light, more degrees, more this, and there's just nothing to it. It's, you know, the three primary degrees are the most sublime, and that's where you're going to get your, you know, your aha moment. What's a degree? Those are the three initiations that you go through in Blue Lodge,
Starting point is 00:51:21 Interd Apprentice, Fellow Craft, and Master Mason. And each one has kind of a different series of working tools that they're based on. And also, you're going kind of through a death and resurrection, you know, a death and resurrection ideology, like where you're letting go of your old self and opening up to the possibility of being able to recreate a whole new life for yourself as a new person based on, you know, from the ground up, meaning you can let go of everything that you've known from the past, have a clean slate, and then recreate yourself from that point forward. Do you do the degrees like classes?
Starting point is 00:52:01 Do you take classes or is it just like work? You have to have a mentor because there's no way you can do the degree work alone because you work with somebody else in the in in the actual initiation there's it's a q a back and forth basically do you have to read a lot of books and then you have to go through a specific ritual to get to the next level and then sometimes the ritual is like a test and sometimes you pass the test and sometimes you don't yes it will and that, and that has to do with the whole Q&A thing. It's, you know, there is a performative value to it and what you learn from what you memorize and how you respond.
Starting point is 00:52:33 And if you don't have all of this stuff down to a T, then you won't get passed on to the next degree. You have to repeat that again and again and again until you get it right. And the more that you read and understand about it, then it's, you know, the better off you are for sure. Can I just ask one thing about it? How does it comport with a belief in God? You have to have a belief in God to be a Mason because the Bible is the light of Masonry. But if you're a Muslim and you're a Mason, then it would be the Quran. Or if you're a Jew and you're a Mason, then it would be the Old. Or if you're a Jew and you're a Mason,
Starting point is 00:53:05 then it would be the Old Testament versus the inclusion of the New Testament on it. Or if you're Hindu, then it might be the Vedas. Or every single lodge would potentially have a different book. So it's not like Gnosticism where it's based in the Luciferian idea of humanity is the highest form. No, absolutely not. No, no no no that that and uh i
Starting point is 00:53:27 mean i i wouldn't say i mean in having read about the the catharii and the albigensians and all that i wouldn't necessarily even say that gnosticism has that as its fundamental belief either but uh uh i think it has more to do with the enlightenment of the of soul and the raising of oneself to a higher experience of consciousness. I've always found Gnosticism makes a lot of sense in that it just kind of stands for like the knowledge that you have is the enlightenment, like the processes. Enlightenment, is that blasphemous to people of churches to say that Gnosticism is awesome? I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Well, it was to the Catholic Church because the Crusades were against the Gnostics. The Second Crusades were against the Gnostics, and they went and all throughout southern France and Spain and murdered them by the tens of thousands. And traditionally, there's a through line of theory that ties
Starting point is 00:54:20 Gnosticism to the original teachings of Christ and the original practices of the true Christians before the Christianity was usurped by the Roman Catholic Church, which was previous to that, Mithraism.
Starting point is 00:54:35 It was a pagan-type belief system, which pagan is not even a correct term for it. Until they got obsessed with the Jews and Jerusalem. Well, Solomon plays a key factor. I was just going to say, I literally just wrote Solomon's Temple. I was like, doesn't this go all the way back until the Knights of Templar, Solomon's Temple, and allegedly the secrets that they found there, and they used that kind of secrecy
Starting point is 00:54:57 to allegedly fight against the Pope, right? Am I correct? Because I remember studying this like years and years and years ago. Well, they said that they found the treasure. They said that was the theory is that the Knights Templar either found some old manuscripts or actual treasures or things like that that they then brought back to Europe. And they were able to expand the Knights Templar as an order drastically because of this knowledge or whatever it was that they they got a hold of which is still a mystery to this day i've played assassin's creed it was a alien technology wasn't it makes sense have you played i haven't played assassin's creed i'm familiar with what you're
Starting point is 00:55:35 talking i love the movie yeah i i think i've seen i i don't know if i remember the movie but uh in the first couple of games it was the secret for for like the progenitors of Earth aliens. And like the apple was like some powerful object. Well, what's really fascinating about it is that the symbols are everywhere. The kind of is it sacred geometry or is it just because you look at architecture, you look at corporate logos, you look at almost anything of prominence. You look at the landscape of how Washington, D.C. is built. It's all built on Freemasonic kind of architecture. You look at almost anything of prominence. You look at the landscape of how Washington, D.C. is built. It's all built on Freemasonic kind of architecture.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Which is weird because it's a pentagram. And also allegedly on like power ley lines as well. Yes, that's true. But really all of that comes out of the Tree of Life, the Kabbalistic Tree of Life. And the pattern that it's made and all of the different symbols come out of that when you, the Star of David. That's an interpretation of the Tree of Life. But let him finish. It's not an interpretation, it's the actual connection of all of the different, the connection
Starting point is 00:56:40 lines between the Sephirot. You know, so you have the 10 Sephirot and you have all of the connection points between the Sephirot, you know, so you have the 10 Sephirot and you have, you have all of the connection points between them. And from all of those connection points, the symbolism comes out of it. And that goes into the sacred geometry of, of fractaling and everything else. So it's, it's, it's, it's certainly all of those symbols certainly do come out of the tree of life, but the tree of life itself comes out of an even more sublime symbol. And doesn't it take it down to like how the human body is constructed? Absolutely. Yeah. The tree of life is laid right on top of the human body. You can, you can, you can, you can tie that in with, with the chakraic systems. You know, it's the,
Starting point is 00:57:17 they're identical. They've just, they've just split them on the tree of life. They've split, they've split several of them into dynamic polars, but when you combine them all together, it's the same seven to nine chakras that you generally find in a normal system. But you can understand... Sounds like a lot of stuff that Ian's talking about. You had them at fractals and the aligned chakras. I saw Ian's eyes light up.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Like a little bit more traditionally, like you have to understand that it's not that I, like, disagree with, obviously, I know nothing about the Masons compared to you. But, like, I'm Jewish, right? So, like, I may not be as on board with my religious symbols being utilized in another theologies philosophies well i'm jewish too so but that would i could say the same thing about you know things i've seen in evangelical churches or things like it's like you know what i could i could whine about it all day long i mean in fact you could you could talk about the old testament the the New Testament. But the point is, I'm happy it's not... We use Hebrew letters and all of that in Freemasonry. When I first saw a Freemason book, I thought it was Hebrew.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Right. Is it based off the Kabbalah or is it something different? It's involved. It's involved. It's involved because... And that goes way back because you also have to think, you know, in the practicing of those kind of, of that type of magic, if the Knights Simplar were involved in practicing Kabbalistic magic, that would be perceived as witchcraft and other types of things.
Starting point is 00:58:57 And then the Pope would kill them and execute them. But Ignatius Loyola, the founder, you know, the founder of the Illuminata in the 1500s was practicing Kabbalah and that's who, you know, and that's where the Illuminata in the 1500s was practicing Kabbalah, and that's where the Illuminati comes from in Bavaria by Adam Weishaupt, who was also a Jesuit priest who was picking back up where Ignatius Loyola left off back in the 1500s. But as a Bavarian Jew...
Starting point is 00:59:21 That's how I feel every time we talk about movies or video games. All I'm saying is it just gives me a little bit of the heebie-jeebies when you're like trying to like not have the whole world come kill you like you know what i mean like as a jew just like in general uh as as does happen like once every a few hundred years or sometimes more often um where you're just like, magic and this and that. I'm just into God, like Old Testament, old school. So would you say you guys are practicing magic? Well, everybody is. Everything is magical.
Starting point is 00:59:57 There's nothing around us that isn't magic. Every time we're trying to explain something to somebody, as soon as they understand our communication to them, we've performed a spell because now they're thinking with our information. So there's nothing that we're not doing that isn't magical. In essence, this table is magic. It wasn't once a table.
Starting point is 01:00:15 It was a tree that was then brought down. It was carved, changed, you know, cars. A car is a magic item, you know what I mean? It's been milled from the ground, taking ore and molten metal and crushing it and then shaping it and then putting it together. And then suddenly you put a chemical into it and start it up and boom, it can drive. That's magic. I mean, we're surrounded by magic. Everybody's practicing magic.
Starting point is 01:00:37 I love the metaphor of casting a spell. And when you make words, you spell them. Yeah. The word spell. That's 100%. That's where it comes from. What makes you want to become a Masonason what do you what do you get from it be it emotional physical or what um well i mean initially i did it because my family you know and and and but once i realized
Starting point is 01:00:55 you know that that was what my my my attraction was to it but uh but really what it is is it's it's a system with which you're you're taught it's oddly complex, but very simple at the same time. You know, it's allegories and symbols that once you understand them, they freeze in the mind and you can access them very easy. It's a psychology, really. It's kind of a psychology. So why not publish it regularly and make it more accessible to the average person? There's loads of books all about it. It's just nobody buys them.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Nobody's interested. So Masonry is open. It's just that we're not interested. The only thing that's closed about Masonry is just the initiation process. Everything else is wide open. All the books are out there. There's Freemasonic encyclopedia sets that you can get. I mean, you name it, you can get it.
Starting point is 01:01:52 The only thing you can't get is access to the actual initiation ceremony unless you join. But at the same time, you can even get that information out there now. There's books where they've taken our code books and they've translated them and they've put them out there to the public. It's all accessible. So why is there so many connections between Masonic imagery and what we've come to learn about satanic rituals and Luciferian stuff, is that just the same sort of thing as like, you know, what I'm kind of arguing against, which is like, you know, frequently like, ah, the Jews run everything, blah, blah, blah. Is that the same kind of misunderstanding?
Starting point is 01:02:37 No, it's the usurpation. Or is it, yeah. It's the usurpation of the symbolism by, by Illuminists. Like the black and white floors and the two columns and the whole thing like well all that see that you're going to have opposing uh meanings for them by by different groups so so the see for instance illuminism adam weishaupt their their their their sole goal was to infiltrate and take over freemasonry and introduce illuminism into the rites and practices of masons so the in in in essence when when you have the Golden Dawn, for instance,
Starting point is 01:03:08 and others quasi-Masonic orders that come out of Masonry, they're taking the Masonic symbolism with them. And they're thwarting it. Yeah, and then they're turning it on its head. So suddenly you're looking at the Golden Dawn going, oh, they're using the same eye in the pyramid, and they're using the same eye and in the pyramid and they're using the same this and that and oh that's got to be mason student no it's not it's it's not that's how i got introduced to that stuff that's why i get heebie-jeebie about it is because when
Starting point is 01:03:34 i was in college i accidentally went to this totally bizarre communist college and in like i just tried to avoid their protest classes and I took a Yates class and it was just Golden Dawn. Like just the whole time. And I was just like, I didn't sign up for Satanism. Like this is bizarro land. And that's where I learned all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Most of the founding fathers were Freemasons. Yeah, that's the Blue Lodge. That's the standard. That's the standard three degrees. The Blue Lodge. It's, you know, that's the founding. That's the foundation
Starting point is 01:04:06 that all the other Masonic sects are based on. So even York Rite, which has, I believe, six degrees, you have to do the first three to go up those. And same with Scottish Rite. You can't get into Scottish Rite unless you've already done the Blue Lodge degrees.
Starting point is 01:04:21 So it's really the bedrock. Was it just like a but like a way of teaching and learning and knowing like if you're a mason then you know these things i don't have to worry about you not understanding the way i view it you're saying there's a lot of like mechanical metaphors involved yeah i mean well for instance the 24 inch gauge which is used used obviously used in construction for, for measuring, you know, uh, you know, you use that to break up your time, uh, into three, eight hour segments, one for work, one for rest, one for recreation. Uh, you use the, the, uh, the, the, uh, square
Starting point is 01:04:57 and compasses, the compass to, to keep your, uh, desires within due circumference. You use the square to square your actions. You use the level to remain upright. All of these analogies you apply to the self and you are the mason and the edifice that you're building is in the mind. This gets into Solomon's temple is that in Freemasonry, there's a strong belief that the first temple was never built, that it was only built in his imagination and that it was never actually built in physical reality.
Starting point is 01:05:32 So, you know, it's about the temple that we're building in our minds and then into reality. Let's jump into the story. Let's jump into something else. Let's jump into the story we got from the Daily Mail. This is crazy. I saw this story. It was amazing. Let's just rebuild the temple. We agree? Let's jump into the story we got from the Daily Mail. This is crazy. I saw this story. It was amazing. Let's just rebuild the temple. We agree?
Starting point is 01:05:46 You're going to rebuild the temple? Agreed. Let's go. Let's talk about another story from the Daily Mail. In this story, I was surprised to see it. Mexico uses footage of homeless people and drug addicts from Philadelphia in advertisements to scare young people
Starting point is 01:06:02 away from substance abuse. Awesome. These images are saddening. Now, did they bring the Philadelphians to Mexico to shoot this, or did they go on location to Philadelphia? I think they probably just pulled the videos from social media. From Kensington, probably. Yeah, they just, I mean, this is insane.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Can we play one of the videos? Oh, it's insane. It's just completely insane. I think that's it right there. You can just watch that right there. Oh, wow. There it is. Hey, that's a nice production value. Yeah, it Yeah, that girl's lovely. I mean, she's cute. Oh, no. She's on drugs in Philadelphia. Hey, don't you get it?
Starting point is 01:06:36 LA street people, great account to follow. Yeah, go skateboarding. Look at that. Wait, what is this? This is what you should be doing, is what they're saying. You should be skateboarding. You should be skateboarding, not doing drugs in Philadelphia. And they're not wrong. And Mexico is winning with that one.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Man, that's so sad. Well, they don't have any drugs left in Mexico. Because they're all here. They're all in the United States. But what's the point of selling them in Mexico? And you can't charge 50 times for them. Then you can here filter the fentanyl from China through our open border and kill everybody here. I mean, that's what people don't understand is that China has a 50, 100 year long memory.
Starting point is 01:07:18 I mean, a 250 year long memory and a hundred year long plan. And they're still pissed about the opium wars and we don't understand that and everyone's like why does china keep sending their fentanyl here and we don't do anything about it should be sending it to the uk i mean we didn't have anything to do with that you know i think they can't get into the uk because it's a small island they don't have a land border to move but the thing about what's going on right now in the united states is that we had the economy completely destroyed i often was, where did everybody go? How come we went to, we were in New Market, Virginia last weekend,
Starting point is 01:07:49 and the restaurant had a big old whiteboard that said, we are understaffed, please be patient. Nobody wants to work anymore. And then Ian, you actually hit the nail on the head with the hammer, I think. When I started making the joke that people were raptured, you just said, I think they're homeless. And then I was like, oh. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Yeah, actually, yeah. Because while we're seeing employment collapse for lesser skilled and lower skilled jobs, we're seeing homelessness and drug abuse skyrocket. There's probably a correlation right there. And it's been happening quietly. It's only quiet because they're ignoring it. It's being completely ignored.
Starting point is 01:08:21 I mean, how often do you see any of this information on... But that's what they want. You know, in Mexico some of the cartels have very strict rules where you can't give fentanyl to the local population. You get punished. There's retribution in the streets. If you give out the drugs that are supposed to go up north,
Starting point is 01:08:40 if you give it out to the local population because they know the devastation that it would cause the local population and how horrible it would be. This is also as of course, there's also a very mirrored history between a lot of the cartels and American intelligence agencies that have been working together
Starting point is 01:08:55 historically that have been shipping in things like crack cocaine and it wouldn't surprise me right now. Well, it wasn't in crack form when they shipped it in. I mean, they didn't get there first. Well, the CIA taught people how to do the crack cocaine, but they brought it in cocaine. That's why that's the beginning of the Clintons. That's how the Clintons elbowed their way into a
Starting point is 01:09:14 CIA family, because what people don't realize is that the Obamas and the Bushes have much more in common than the Clintons and the Bushes or the Clintons and anyone else, is that those are old school CIA families. If you want to make, sorry, Mason reference, they're 33rd, whereas like the Clintons are like nine. Like the Clintons are like down here elbowing their way up into the higher level CIA,
Starting point is 01:09:37 like thinking they're going to have a legacy. They're not. There's a big history in Amina, Arkansas. That's what i'm saying you know arkansas is what happens when um is is what clinton agreed to run in order to become president i mean basically there's a lot of people that think that this is a meme it says breaking elon musk has reportedly made an offer to buy the fbi from the clintons oh awesome that's a good that's a good one i think it's like my most liked post too because it has 48,989 likes. Just post more memes. Whenever you post a meme, it's like
Starting point is 01:10:07 I get tens of thousands of likes and I'll post something like about my life and everyone's like, Tim, we don't care about you. We're only there for the memes, man. This is a good one though. This was a good one. I don't know, man. When you look at what's happening with our elections,
Starting point is 01:10:24 it's, you know, I think a lot of people are really angry. Milo pointed out they wanted revenge. They were hoping that this would be an absolute national rebuke of the Democrat failures. Instead, we ran the same play. We got a win. You know, that's it in the House. And it's not even confirmed just yet. And I'm kind of just like, I don't know. I was thinking about what Michael Malice was saying with John Fetterman getting elected and how he wanted him in. And I thought it was kind of funny. So, you know, the more I think about it, this is a product of absolute collectivism. And I'm very much more on the side of individualism. So my worst case scenario is we go anarcho libertarian or whatever. It's not my ideal circumstance. I know the anarchists and
Starting point is 01:11:03 libertarians are probably loving it. If the system breaks down and collapses, they're going to be living large. But I can live with that. I can deal with that if that's what happens. That's really weird. You and my dad are like those guys. I'm that guy. I'm like, this is music to my ears. I love the sound of that.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Let's do it. Let's bring Tehran to the United States. I've learned to accept it and to learn like to embrace the zen anarchism like and to even try and understand what it is like I have I have only now begun to have like thrive in the chaos kind of vibe but like uh it still is I have to say like at the end of the movie I made it's sad I mean it's sad I was I inherited this country it's the only thing I would die for if not my family so I'm not really I don't feel bad being genuine about this like a lot of these people these days like after this election like there's a lot of I won't mention
Starting point is 01:11:57 who but there's a lot of like irony going around where it's like don't you know elections are fake anyways like anybody who took this seriously is dumb. And you're like, no, actually, I really care about my country and I don't mind saying so. Like, it's really important. I think what's also happening here in America with a lot of these drug overdoses is something that has been adding
Starting point is 01:12:18 to the larger political shift in this country. Because when you look at the opioid epidemic, it predominantly went after middle America. It went after people that weren't in the cities people who trusted their doctors got in a car accident and their doctor said hey take legalized heroin that we're going to cut you off immediately and now hey now you got to go through mexico now you got to go through the cartels now you got to go through your local drug dealers to get hooked and you criminalize it and when you criminalize it you create a situation where of course there is more harm and more people are dying from bad drugs more than ever more gang members are are becoming more enriched more than ever and it's a situation
Starting point is 01:12:55 deliberately created in my opinion meant to devastate middle america and this has been seen as a result of of eliminating a lot of would-be republicans let's be honest let's yes and what is the why is that why would they want to do that because you will own that thing and you will be happy right because they want people dependent on government can you have they don't want people that are ungovernable that's why we see authoritarianism in extremely poor countries because when you're worried about what to eat and what you're going to feed your family you don't have time to have high-minded philosophical conversations about what political system you're going to have and that's the problem with the right too i was just having a meeting with somebody earlier today
Starting point is 01:13:32 and you're like like like like we're talking me and this girl are basically on the complete same side we're talking about it like we're on totally opposite complete political sides we're on the right and it's like, we take our minds most minute differences and we make huge issues out of them. And it's like, well, I can't go along
Starting point is 01:13:51 with this because of X, Y, and Z. And it's like, the left doesn't do that. The left is just like, they're coming after abortions. Go vote. And you're like, oh, why can't,
Starting point is 01:14:00 like, it's like. But they don't vote for anything. Democrats vote because someone knocked on the door and said vote and they went, oh, I guess. Corin, are you in California?
Starting point is 01:14:07 No, I live in Florida. Have you seen it? Good man. There you go, Florida man. I live in Florida, too. I love it there. It's awesome and incredible. But even in Florida, you do see this larger impact of this kind of destruction of our society.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Have you seen it in your experiences? I mean, especially with my son. My son's 17 and lives out in the suburbs of Houston. And that, I can tell you, they've had a number of incidents. They've had a number of kids at his school who've all died from fentanyl overdoses. And not because they knew it was fentanyl, because they thought they were taking an ecstasy pill. That's right. Or they thought they were taking something else because they're pill pressing these things. Now, whether they're pill pressing the fentanyl into these forms and saying that
Starting point is 01:14:54 it's something else, and not intentionally putting an overdose amount in there, or intentionally putting an overdose amount in there, I can't say for sure. But the fact that it's in there at all is frightening. Remember when the U.S. government put, I think it was methanol? In the alcohol during prohibition? Yeah, during prohibition to kill. That was a short-lived stunt.
Starting point is 01:15:17 People started dying? It was a short-lived stunt. They killed people? The government deliberately killed people? I'm going to tell people that's what happened the last time I was here. Methanol? I'm going to tell people that you what happened the last time I was here. Methanol? Methanol and alcohol? I'm going to tell people that you methanoled me the last time I was here. You'd be blind, I'm pretty sure, or dead. I think that's what people...
Starting point is 01:15:31 Hold on. We'll clarify. What the government was hoping was that by putting methanol in alcohol, nobody would drink it. Yeah, exactly. And then people drank it and they died. Okay, we're going to stop doing that. No, no, no. They wanted a story where people would die from it.
Starting point is 01:15:46 They would run with those headlines saying, see, bootlegging is dangerous. You better not drink the bootleg alcohol. Yeah, they spiked the bootleg alcohol. Yeah, literally created, you know, mafias. Mafias wouldn't exist if it wasn't for government prohibition. So you're saying mafias wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the mafia? Well, no, they didn't exist in ancient Rome. I was waiting to argue
Starting point is 01:16:07 and I was like, that's actually a good point there. That's a great point. They existed since ancient Rome. In some form or another. But they became as prominent and as powerful only because of prohibition.
Starting point is 01:16:16 100%, for sure. That's what happens when you consider them illegal. No, no, the point is the government is a mafia, period. There you go. And the mafia is just... More mafias.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Right. They're organized structures. Like, you know, people have this, like, I guess, fictionalized view of what a mafia is where they're, like, purely antagonistic to the community. And they're not. The same thing is true for gangs.
Starting point is 01:16:42 That's actually true. Gangs are antagonistic. In fact, when Brazil... Chicago is a really great example. The gangs in Chicago were not overtly antagonistic. We'd go to the park and we'd be like, oh, look, there's a bunch of people from a gang. And they were just a gang. And they would do stuff. And in fact, they would police their neighborhoods.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Yeah. So when people felt like they weren't being protected and they didn't have the same access as other people in terms of public resources or industry, they created their own. That's what people do. They form organizations. Now, some of these people. That's what ghettoized communities do. But all communities do it. The difference is the United States, we've mass scaled it up to the point where it's surrounding the nation and with military bases all over the world.
Starting point is 01:17:25 When I look at Brazil, Brazil was a really great example of this with the favelas. When the government wasn't active in the shantytowns, the favelas, gangs came up and became the de facto leadership. When the government realized, hey, there's tax money. We need to get this stuff. We need to modernize and take control of it. They had to, quote unquote, pacify, meaning they would go in and rip apart the gangs and then reassert their dominance over this area but the gangs were basically just local government yeah that's what you get when you say rip apart you mean they would kill people oh yeah that's the only way to do it that's why when
Starting point is 01:17:57 you see the fbi rating the the homes and rating political opposition, you have to realize that the FBI is just the gang of the party of the regime, right? Now they're after the aliens. Yeah, they're after the UFO guy, which they raided today, which is absolutely insane. Is that like a real thing? Like, did that actually happen? I want to talk about this. About what?
Starting point is 01:18:19 The UFO guy? It's not the guy who, like, wrote, Behold a Pale Horse or something, is it? No, they took that guy down. Yeah, that's right. They killed him in 2001, right after 9-11. That's absolutely right. I remember that.
Starting point is 01:18:31 He predicted 9-11. That's right. That's right. Who was that? I read the article where he did that. William Cooper. Former U.S. leader. I read his article that when it came out in 1999, actually, I forget the magazine that
Starting point is 01:18:43 it was in, one of these alternative magazines he died in a shootout with police yeah well in one a one direction shootout sort of like waco yes milton william cooper yeah former u.s naval intelligence uh crazy book that he wrote the whole pale horse yeah yep he died november 5 2001. So that's just about two months after 9-11. What does he keep talking about? Was he like, it's a conspiracy? Wow, I did not know that. He predicted it.
Starting point is 01:19:13 To what degree? What did he predict? I've got to watch the video just to make the exact reference here, because I don't want to be very careful with how I say it. Do you remember the exact references? Yes. Well, on his radio show he he uh he talked about it and and but it wasn't so much in the sense that i mean he if i recall correctly even alex jones is making predictions so did alex jones but before alex jones it was it was william cooper i believe yes yeah yeah and there and there was also we were talking about jordan maxwell earlier there
Starting point is 01:19:43 was another guy who was who was really on really on to all of this stuff and everything. But that was pretty shocking. But it was in such a way that he didn't say specifically what happened. But, you know, I would have to go back and look at it again as well. But it was pretty eye-opening. And the fact that they went and whacked him. eye-opening. Timothy McVeigh's lawyer wrote a book about his case where it included an entire chapter about Osama Bin Laden that was removed
Starting point is 01:20:10 from later printings. He said Osama Bin Laden will be blamed for it. I think that's the exact quote. Before 9-11. Let's just absolutely segue into something totally unrelated. That's the whole show. Richard Medhurst
Starting point is 01:20:26 says, this is huge. Over a dozen... You're done? Yeah. Keep going. But I still think you need more than I do. Go, go, go! This is huge. Alright, so we have a tweet here from Richard Medhurst says, this is huge.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Over a dozen countries have now applied to join BRICS, including Algeria, Iran, and Argentina. The multipolar order is taking shape before us. If expanded, BRICS would compromise over half the global population, 60% of global gas, and 45%
Starting point is 01:20:59 of global oil reserves. To me, it doesn't sound like multipolar, it just sounds like the end of the American... Sounds like bipolar is what it sounds like. No, no, no. It's the end of the United States. It is. The petrodollar. Yeah, yeah. It'll be the death of the petrodollar, no doubt. I mean, I hate to say this, but this is what I was talking about on the
Starting point is 01:21:16 last show. About bricks? No, that the end of America being a superpower. People aren't really ready for that. They don't know what it's like to not be in a country that can just flip a switch and say, I want things to go like this. Tim,
Starting point is 01:21:28 do you know if, are they doing a, are they doing an actual currency with this or is it, is it just, I mean, are they going to launch a currency that's going to back this up? I bet it'll be a crypto. I bet it'll be a crypto of some sort.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Because I remember when they, when they were, Bitcoin itself. Darren Beatty celebrates. When they were doing, when the EU was first launching, they were selling, I think it was five cents on the dollar
Starting point is 01:21:50 you could buy euros before they fully launched. It's like, if they're going to make a currency out of this, I want in. October 7th. There's a news article from October 7th, 2022. Putin said he plans on creating a, quote, new global reserve currency. Yeah, it's going to be a central bank digital currency.
Starting point is 01:22:10 And I would be willing to bet. You know, I'm not saying it's true. I'm saying it's hyper speculative, highly speculative. But I would not be surprised if American elites are purposefully tanking the U.S. while sending their assets over through maybe like Panama, where a lot of money was stored, or Switzerland. And we know Joe Biden flew on Air Force Two with his son Hunter for a private
Starting point is 01:22:32 equity deal in China. I think the elites, they are stealing the silverware from the Titanic after the iceberg was hit 2008. They're jumping on the life rafts, telling everybody, everything's fine, don't worry about it. Taking those lifeboats off to another big ship, loading up all the silver, coming back and saying, everything's okay. Don't worry about it. Taking those lifeboats off to another big ship, loading up all the silver,
Starting point is 01:22:46 coming back and saying, everything's okay, people. Don't worry about it. They're getting ready to jump ship. I would buy that for a dollar. I think that explains a lot of the Ukraine business. And I think that explains a lot. A lot.
Starting point is 01:23:00 So it's just that economics doesn't care about American republicanism. No way. It never has. Economics has never cared. I'm going to avoid saying the thing we're not supposed to say, but it also has to do with that. So the fact that 2008 happened and nothing ever came of it and they needed something to blame it on and distract for a while
Starting point is 01:23:19 and also to control populations, they had to do that and then do what tim's talking about see see what i did there i didn't so it's like figure it out folks maybe you're talking about the global the i guess you call it the bank for international settlements in switzerland no no i'm talking selling the federal reserve money talking about something else well i i think i know you have fever and and the bank of international settlements is old system. What they're proposing now with BRICS is going to be to get off of that system. So when Russia invades Ukraine, they threaten to rip them from SWIFT. And so immediately they're like, okay, we need something else because we cannot be beholden to the U.S.
Starting point is 01:23:58 I'd be willing to bet. They immediately started going around. And this is years ago. In fact, we know they were doing this. And pitching to these countries, Join us. The resistance. And now with Ukraine and everything that's going on and the U.S. is in total through social media. Our foreign adversaries have been doing the same thing. We have been spinning around rope-a-dope while they've been preparing all of this stuff. And there are elites in the United States who know what's happening and said, you know what, if you can't beat them, join them. No, that's not only what's happened, but look at you can actually look at this.
Starting point is 01:24:38 If you look at the bill that just came out about unveiling who runs the think tanks, it's not just that they've been rope-a-doping. They have been cashing out on this like they're every single think tank in washington dc is owned by a different foreign country and they're not like our friends they're not like england i mean even though england is our actual biggest enemy people need to start understanding um it's like really really bad ones like ones that are on like the state department in one hand is creating lists of bad countries that are sanctioned. And on the other hand, sending their staff over to work at think tanks that are funded by those countries. So like make that make sense for me. Like that's that's that it's not just it's not as innocent even as rope a dope. Like I think what Tim's saying actually is completely correct.
Starting point is 01:25:22 I just think it's a gazillion times worse than that. So what do we do? Just get some chickens? Get a gun? You're on the right path. Solar power? Watch the fall of the US Empire? Well, we're participating in it. We also forgot how they're shipping in all the drugs to pacify the general public. The borders are open.
Starting point is 01:25:39 And destroying men and testosterone so no one could rebel and fight back. Listen, when all of this is happening and then our border is completely porous, they don't care. Drugs are pouring and they don't care. Our economy is completely destroyed. They don't care. I'm just like, okay, they're participating in it. And when we say they, I have to take some responsibility for this.
Starting point is 01:25:59 It's not just Biden. In a Trump administration, do you know what happened to the immigration bill? It was shelved by the same people that are running AFPI right now, which is why I'm in a big old fight with them and why like they're all can't understand why I'm coming after them on Twitter. But like the same exact people that are running AFPI are the ones that decided to shelve the immigration bill in favor of having Kim Kardashian's more moments with celebrities like that and release more criminals. Because that was at the top of the list of all the Americans.
Starting point is 01:26:31 America First was definitely about, let's release more criminals early, not do immigration, do tax policy, and plant a thousand trees. I don't remember that in any rally. But that's what we did. And I hate to hate i'm saying we because i was in that office so it's like i that wasn't what i was working on like we were working on the immigration bill and i can tell you it would have solved a lot of these issues do you know that there's so much um the the amount the number of um uh what are they called those things
Starting point is 01:27:03 you put on trucks that come in through ships, like the shipping containers. They're that big, right? Not just the little FedEx package, a package, a giant box that big. The number of those that are uninspected coming through our ports is so low, is so low that the number itself is classified. I'm not saying anything classified by saying that.
Starting point is 01:27:22 The number is classified because if the American people knew, it would freak them out that badly. I don't think they'd care. I think we found out that Joe Biden was shipping children, illegal immigrant children, across the country. And it was a story only for people who read the news. And half the country, despite the—you know, here's what I see. I see this story in front of us. The petrodollar has been at risk for a long time.
Starting point is 01:27:45 Since the 70s. Since the 70s. But it's been getting progressively worse in the past several years. Five, six, seven years ago, Russia starts dumping U.S. bonds. China, they've been preparing for this. The people running this country, they literally don't care. Donald Trump starts showing up our border, showing up our defenses, sealing our border, bringing jobs back, getting factories from Mexico back in. Boy, did they lose their minds.
Starting point is 01:28:05 And we've talked about this. It may be because of Thucydides' trap, which is this historical concept that whenever a large, the dominant economic power is about to be displaced by a rising economic power, war breaks out at least 12 out of the 16 times in the past 500 years. So perhaps what's happening is they're saying to avoid World War III, we will control demolition in the United States, and then rebuild up where it's growing rapidly, say, China, the BRICS countries.
Starting point is 01:28:32 And thus, we are watching the complete and total collapse of our country. And what happens is, with expanded universal mail-in voting, the American people who are so blinded, so stupid, so ignorant, and so hate-filled are voting themselves into oblivion. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:28:48 This is what I was saying earlier. I'm very, very much about individualism. So my worst-case scenario is it's not my preferred ideal that this country goes belly up. But, you know, I'm fine with trying to figure things out for myself and not having to rely on other people. And I'm not saying I will be good at surviving completely in the wilderness no but you know i i we that this is one of the reasons we get out to the middle of nowhere we install solar panels with massive batteries we get backup generators we buy copper wire you think they're gonna let you do that though they if the country completely falls apart there's not going to be a they anymore it's going to be
Starting point is 01:29:21 roving bands of people desperate for food. And then what happens is communities isolate each other, call it a national divorce, whatever you want. Where we are right now, this is MAGA country. The neighbors out here, they got big signs flying the Trump flags. In a second, if there was a major crisis, there would be a neighborhood watch meeting. People would know exactly what to do and how to do it. People would be fortified. I'm not saying I'm doing anything crazy prepper-like like preppers do. Maybe we should, because this is very alarming, the BRICS countries.
Starting point is 01:29:55 But I mean, like 30 years worth of food and like, you know, look. Three is enough. I mean, not if it's the total cost of the US, right? Well, yeah, I mean, but if you're still if three years have gone by and you're still living on some bad food. I haven't. Bagged food, I think.
Starting point is 01:30:11 Hold on, hold on. No, no, no, no, listen, listen. Here's what you do. When you store emergency food for the apocalypse scenario, you never touch it. What you do is you always make sure you're getting your food from natural sources, and only in extreme emergencies do you tap into your reserves. After three
Starting point is 01:30:30 years, ain't going to be no Chef Boyardee anymore. That's going to be worth gold. There's going to be some dude and he's going to be like, you have an unopened Chef Boyardee? That's right. No, no. I want that case of 9mm. I'll give you anything for it. He opens it and there's mud in it
Starting point is 01:30:45 No no the can's just faded and filthy Oh I think what you get for a pack of Hubba Bubba He cracks it open Takes his finger and just puts it in his mouth And then instantly in his mind is transported to being a little kid In a beautiful suburb And his mom hands him the bowl And he's like I love you mom
Starting point is 01:31:02 And then he flashes back to reality His clothes are ripped he's covered the bowl and he's like, I love you, mom. She's like, I love you. And then he flashes back to reality. His clothes are ripped. He's covered in dirt and he's like, I don't know why that's funny. Let's make a movie. I think I made this movie. I was talking to,
Starting point is 01:31:13 I was talking to Michael Malice earlier. He's got a book coming out, but one of the things he said, one of the things he said to me was people in this country absolutely do not realize what bad is. That's what I'm trying to say
Starting point is 01:31:23 because he's an expert on North Korea. What I'm trying to say is like, and many other countries like that, what I'm trying to say because he's an expert on North Korea. What I'm trying to say is like, and many other countries like that, what I'm trying to say is we don't know, we are so not prepared for what it's like to not be a superpower. I think what I'm saying is like getting to the point where you're at, where it's like, okay, fine, maybe there isn't a they. Maybe it
Starting point is 01:31:40 is roving gangs and maybe it all that and everybody else is trained to be an influencer. You know, everyone in Poland and my family jars their food, has a little plot of land where they grow their own food. Yeah, the Mormons will be fine. We do that because
Starting point is 01:31:50 the communists starved my family. So people don't understand how bad it could get. It could get really bad really quick and it's only about us standing in the way. I'm going to become Amish.
Starting point is 01:32:00 We're going to go to Super Chats. Okay. Yeah, last thing is, one thing that could happen because we're not an empire We are an American republic And when the Roman Republic fell It became an empire
Starting point is 01:32:11 So if some strong man steps in and says Turns this country into a junta And runs it through the military Goes around and kills whoever disagrees If something like a Caesar were to appear With a military force And then we're like second fiddle To the Chinese superstructure and we're just kind of like a vassal state. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:32:29 No, first we get to be the American Empire, though. I don't know if there was a we involved in that. No, no, no. For 200 years. No, we need the American Caesar. And that's why when we get the Red Caesar, we're going to have a handful of hundred years of good times. That's going to be awesome. And then everything can fall apart.
Starting point is 01:32:45 But first, I insist on a Red Caesar. All right, we're going to go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and become a member at timcast.com. And I just want to give one last special thank you
Starting point is 01:32:57 to everybody who supported our song, Genocide, Losing My Mind. The billboard tracking period ended last night. It still keeps tracking forever, but that was the big push. We're still going to do marketing and everything, but seriously, thank you for checking out the song, listening to it, streaming it, edit your playlists, all that. We still want to promote
Starting point is 01:33:11 it. We still want you to listen to the song and enjoy it, but we're going to get the numbers on billboard on Tuesday and see how well we did. So thank you all so much. We got Plurberry who says, a bunch of news outlets reporting Russia is removing troops. Sounds to me like he's getting ready to nuke. Also, Rallala Land and Trinanana Shabba Depressor.
Starting point is 01:33:31 Well said. Bidenisms. The Culture Warrior says, I see the Step on Snack shirt got jacked by some weird company on FB. Yeah, you know, what are you going to do about it? But I'll tell you what you can do. In the pinned in the chat right now is our Stand Your Ground rooster shirt. You can click that and buy it. It is a rooster.
Starting point is 01:33:49 And he's raising his wings going, man, he says, stand your ground, it says. And it's because the noble rooster, he will rush to fight a predator knowing he will die if it means his hens will get but a few more seconds to escape.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Be like the noble rooster. Stand your ground. Stand up for what you believe in. Yeah. Can we get matching tattoos? I'm not going to get a tattoo, but you can get the shirt. Dang it. We got to order some.
Starting point is 01:34:14 You guys got to hook me up with some of these shirts so I got things to wear on the plane. Oh, yeah. We can have a step on snack and find out. Hook me up with some shirts. I'll mail you some shirts. Yeah. Luke's the shirt guy. We have sillier shirts. Luke has the overt
Starting point is 01:34:26 political funny ones. Yeah, I want overt weird stuff. I got some really crazy ones I can't even share here. That's right. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, it's Veterans Day. While many cozy at home, veterans were away from family. Some worked the keyboard, some replaced
Starting point is 01:34:41 gear, some kicked down doors, all signed that blank check. Shout out to veterans. Here, here, shout out to veterans. Absolutely. And the end, some replaced gear, some kicked down doors, all signed that blank check. Shout out to veterans. Here, here, shout out to veterans. Absolutely. And the end of World War I, I think you were saying? Yeah, Armistice Day. Is that the same day like always, Veterans Day and the end of World War I?
Starting point is 01:34:58 Yeah, they turned it into Veterans Day. It used to be called Armistice Day. Yes. It was celebrated globally and then Americans turned it into Veterans Day. When that was the biggest war. When they thought that was the war to end all war. Right. Do you guys know about the Christmas Armistice, I think it was called, right? Yeah. Christmas Truce.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Christmas Truce. It's when the French and the... I think it was the French and the Germans. Yeah. Came out of their trenches Christmas Eve and they just were like, why are we even fighting? They started playing soccer. They were like hanging out, feeding each other. Smoking cigarettes.
Starting point is 01:35:22 And then... Nicotine nationalism, smoking cigarettes together. And the next morning the French commanders were like, all right, it's time for you to go kill them. And they're like,
Starting point is 01:35:28 we're not. And they're like, no, I'm going to shoot you in the back. And the French were like, all right. That's how war works.
Starting point is 01:35:33 Yeah, this is early 1914, the beginning of the war as well, to point that out. Before all the four years of everyone killing each other. In the worst possible
Starting point is 01:35:41 ways. They still didn't know why they were fighting. That's the weirdest thing. Do they ever? Do we ever? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:35:47 Why were we in Afghanistan? Ferdinand. Hey, someone killed Prince Ferdinand, man. You got to go to war over that. There's a lot of heroin in Afghanistan. You got to man the poppy. All right. Tara Few says,
Starting point is 01:35:59 Corin loved you in Stargate. It is hands down my favorite TV show. Thank you for all you do. Sweet. Well, thank you. There you go. And then, I mean, here it comes. Alex Ritter says, Jonas Quinn in Stargate. It is hands down my favorite TV show. Thank you for all you do. Sweet. Well, thank you. There you go. And then, I mean, here it comes. Alex Ritter says, Jonas Quinn in the house.
Starting point is 01:36:10 Now get Christopher Judge. He is an entertaining fellow, I will say. David says, Jonas Quinn was a Mary Sue, but Cora Nemec nailed it. Do you think he was a Mary Sue? I'm not sure exactly what a Mary Sue is. It's like an innocent...
Starting point is 01:36:25 No, it's a character who's powerful through deus ex machina. Like, you introduce a character, and they're just powerful. They don't go through the development and earning of his... Oh, like in Star Wars, when the girls always are better. Like, we watch, you know... I mean, I was no Jar Jar Binks, but I did my part. So Rey is a Mary Sue, right? She uses the force and she lifts like 50 tons.
Starting point is 01:36:49 And she's better than all the guys that we spent three movies watching train just to have one fight. She didn't have to train. She didn't have to train at all. Because she's a chick, she picks up the thing and she's better than everybody. Did your guy just appear and he was super strong? Well, you know, it's my mental capacity that served my character so well. I was able to absorb huge amounts of data and regurgitate it instantaneously. How do I get that belt buckle?
Starting point is 01:37:13 Are you guys seeing this? Oh, no. That's my great uncle's belt buckle. Can I get a fake one? See this thing on camera. It is a nice one. It is fancy. It's a giant Masonic.
Starting point is 01:37:24 No, I do have one of those, though. I'm not trying to get you to take your pants off, sir. No, no, no. I have a hilarious one that's like that big. I just am saying it's a cool belt buckle. Thank you. All right. Keto Master says, Tim, Republicans at large may have won, but I feel like I've lost.
Starting point is 01:37:38 I'm in Oregon, and an evil harpy will now be the governor and measure 114 past. Yeah, that's insane. Move. You see that? The gun control thing? Move. It's like you need lessons, you need permits, you can't buy guns anymore.
Starting point is 01:37:51 Where is that? What state? Oregon. And there's something about that. Do you think that they're going to be able to vote? Those counties are going to be able to vote themselves out? Exactly. They need to secede.
Starting point is 01:38:00 See, so instead of Oregon, it's going to be Oregon. No, no, no. Listen, listen. Here's what doesn't make sense. Let me give you some logic. I used to give my friends when I was a little kid because I was a... Gifted? Bad influence. So I'm talking to a friend of mine, and I'm like, hey,
Starting point is 01:38:17 you want to go skate? And he goes, I can't. I'm grounded. And I was like, what does that mean? He's like, I'm not allowed to go outside. And I was like, what do you mean you're not allowed to go outside? My parents told me I can't leave go outside. And I was like, what do you mean you're not allowed to go outside? My parents told me I can't leave the house. And I was like, so what happens if you leave the house? And he goes, I'll get grounded more. And then I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 01:38:32 So if you're grounded and you leave the house, they'll ground you more. Right. And then what happens if you leave the house after that? And he goes, they'll ground me more. And I'm like, are you following the logic here? Right. And they were like, oh. And I'm like, dude, if all they're going to do is ground you and you leave and they ground you more, grounding isn't doing anything to you.
Starting point is 01:38:50 So my attitude with the secession from Oregon is like these counties voted to do it. Or they voted to put it on a bill. I can't remember exactly what it was. And then everyone's like, yeah, well, Congress will never let it happen and the states won't let it happen. And I'm like, let? What does that mean? Yeah. You as the people voted to do it so what happens next like my thought is if the people in this county are like okay we've seceded what is anyone gonna do is oregon gonna send state police to your county and then remove all of the government perhaps i guess but if the
Starting point is 01:39:20 people who live there are like we seceded what are they gonna do lfg start arresting every single person if they don't pay their state taxes sure and then i guess the issue is if people who live in these areas agree to abide by the rules and laws of of portland of the of the west coast then they did not secede they just said they wanted to right my point is if you've got all these counties all over the country that are saying, we hereby vote to secede. And I'm like, so then you did, right? You stopped paying taxes. You stopped abiding.
Starting point is 01:39:54 You started, like, there's a northern district in Colorado. It's like, okay, if you voted for this, does that mean you've called up the governor of, you know, Idaho? What's north of Colorado? It's not Idaho, is know idaho or what's what's what's north of colorado it's not idaho is it no it's not wyoming wyoming yeah yeah not getting the visual i'm from the area did you call them up and say hey where were you now and and what did they say has any of that occurred right now in in western maryland they wrote letters saying they wanted to secede these three counties and join west virginia and it's like... Maryland and their secessionist tendencies. Actually, no.
Starting point is 01:40:29 Maryland did not want to secede. In the Civil War? No, they were way above the line. I know. Maryland was a slave state, south of Mason-Dixon. But they were southern... Southern slave state did not secede. But they didn't.
Starting point is 01:40:44 I thought that they did secedeede but they didn't but I thought that they were they did secede but they got taken over immediately nope they did not secede in the initial secession
Starting point is 01:40:53 I believe I could be wrong guys I know many of you know more about the Civil War than me but seven states seceded and there were four slave states that didn't
Starting point is 01:41:00 no no I'm sorry there was more than four slave states there was probably seven I think others but only four others joined in the south several months later because of Abraham Lincoln's call for volunteers. So Maryland was a slave state. So was Delaware.
Starting point is 01:41:13 They remained in the Union. And then the federal government arrested 30-some-odd assembly members from Maryland because they were in favor of it. But the overwhelming majority were not in favor of secession so did the federal government just set it set up like military all over maryland oh totally abraham lincoln was like i declare from dc to pennsylvania anyone will be arrested for any reason without charge or trial and then everyone's like sounds good to me and then he went around arresting people and there was like a famous case of some guy who was just flipping him off and saying screw you guys so they arrested him for no reason and held him until after the war and people's turns out i was john wolf's booth i'm gonna just stop some guy but that's that that's
Starting point is 01:41:53 that that's the issue you know almost went too far if you know most people assume he was a tyrant there was a there was an article i think it was from totally anti-constitution and they wrote that 11 states seceded from the union out of fear that slavery would be ended. And it's like, man, I've like read a few academic papers on the Civil War, went on a few tours, and I already know that's not true. It was seven, and then Sumter happened and a bunch of other stuff happened. In fact, the crazy thing is I was reading about, I think it was the first battle of Bull Run. The South could have invaded D.C. and won instantly, but they did not want to start a war with the North.
Starting point is 01:42:28 They were trying just to stop the North from coming into the South. And so, like, after the first battle, everyone's in panic. They're running and screaming. Because Virginia's right there on D.C. That's right. And it used to be part of it.
Starting point is 01:42:39 I mean, that's the thing. If you want to talk about your Masonic thing, I mean, the original line of the capital was meant to be lined up with the temple. Right. The original stone. I only know because I jogged by it almost every day. Yeah, it was where they lined up the whole city outwards from there.
Starting point is 01:42:55 It was meant to include the center of the city. It was meant to include Virginia. And they just cut it off at the river. Mind Fury says, I knew that voice sounded familiar. Captain Alvarez from Star Trek Renegades. they just cut it off at the river. Mind Fury says, I knew that voice sounded familiar. Captain Alvarez from Star Trek Renegades. Short-lived web series version of Star Trek. Cool.
Starting point is 01:43:13 Yeah, it was fun. Which era was it in? When was it? Was it the 90s era? No, no, no. We shot that, we shot it maybe 12 years ago, something like that.
Starting point is 01:43:23 It wasn't that long ago, but it was, maybe in 2013 or 14, but it was an attempt to do a new series for Star Trek, but an independent kind of take on it, and they just couldn't get
Starting point is 01:43:35 the rights and everybody to get on board. They ended up having to do, the second season they did, they ended up having to drop the Star Trek from the name and just call it Renegades. Yeah, they call it a fan film now yeah when i searched it yeah exactly legameth again says jaffa cree but in all seriousness you were awesome in that show and it's
Starting point is 01:43:53 great to see your face again after so many years thank you right on great username yeah i used to i shot that movie great new username jaffa cree or is it what he's his username oh his okay gotcha i used to uh like reference Star Trek a whole lot, and then a bunch of people started saying, if you like Star Trek, you've got to watch SG-1. And then I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll get to it, I'll get to it. I'll watch it at some point. And then SyFy started showing SG-1.
Starting point is 01:44:16 No, it was Comet, I think. And then it was like 4 p.m. 4, 5, and 6, I think, they would have three episodes, back-to-back, just straight through it. I'd just be sitting there just watching for three hours every day. And I was like, this show's awesome. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 01:44:33 What I liked most about it was the fact that it took place in present time, but was a sci-fi. You know, most sci-fis are someplace in the faraway future or whatever, and you can't really, but this is like something you could really hang onto and go, wow, I feel like I could be a part of this like i feel like the stargate is i mean i've had at conventions i've done i've had people convinced to a t that it's real and they created the series to hide the real stargate we know it's we know it's real dude all of that we've all seen the episode wormhole extreme we know that was a signal to all the fans that it was real the whole time. Yeah, but we know it's not real real.
Starting point is 01:45:10 End of story, guys. Let's move on. Well, it's funny because the Stargate project actually had nothing to do with portals. Was it like psychic powers? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the real Stargates, Native Americans would go inside of a circle that they would like draw out and actually project into the stars. The astral projection. Well, that's what the pyramids were, well, some say were originally used for
Starting point is 01:45:30 as astral projection chambers. Because they're on those lines that y'all are so fond of. Yeah, and the way that the pyramid itself is built, but that's a whole nother discussion. A lot of sacred geometry. Tip with gold. I'll talk about that after the show. You mean those pyramids, those slave-built...
Starting point is 01:45:46 Oh, impossible. When are we going to tear down those monuments to slavery? That's what I want to know. Yeah, when they can prove the slaves built them. All right. Jay Williams sees this message is for Ian. Please, sir, could you check your Instagram DMs to see the idea, have, and details? It's a platform based on incentivizing innovation and connecting individuals for the correct reasons.
Starting point is 01:46:05 I'll send you more details if you have any questions. Thank you. Yes, I will. All right. Wow, that sounds like my DMs. That sucks. Yeah, I'm not saying I'm going to respond, but I'll definitely check it out. I get a lot of messages.
Starting point is 01:46:14 Do you know how many scripts I get that are like the founding fathers, the musical, and they're like, I have this idea. I've polished it off just for you. And I'm like, please don't. But I will encourage you, build the thing and then get like i had this idea i've polished it off just for you and i'm like please don't but i will encourage you build the thing and then get to me with the finished product and i can help you market it it's a lot better than asking me to start a new project right now all
Starting point is 01:46:33 right james hates everything says corin please reboot parker lewis oh i've had some conversations about that like official studio stuff we can uh well there was there was an attempt by the creators to pitch a version of it that was turned down. But I have my own version that I'm dying to pitch. Parker Lewis can't win. And it's the reverse. It's him now. He's old. He's lost everything.
Starting point is 01:47:01 Miss Musso is the mayor of the town. Lemmer is the local sheriff. Kubiak is now a famous wrestler. He's lost everything. Miss Musso is the mayor of the town. Lemmer is the local sheriff. Kubiak is now a famous wrestler. Mikey's a famous musician. Jerry's a district court judge, which is actually true. Troy Slayton is a judge out in California now. And that everything that he does just turns to crap. Peaked in high school and then from there.
Starting point is 01:47:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like him trying to relive the old, get everybody shucking and jiving, trying to get some new thing off of it. Everything is thwarted by Miss Musso and this, and he's living on people's couches, and it's the exact opposite. It's so sad, though. I think it would be hilarious. Dark comedy. In the end, he wins.
Starting point is 01:47:35 In the end, he wins. Yeah. Parker always wins. So it's Parker Lewis can't win for the first four seasons. Then season five, it's back to Parker Lewis can't win. Who owns the rights? Is it the network? Sony TV.
Starting point is 01:47:45 Oh, okay. Make it happen, man. I know, it'd be hilarious. Doesn't that suck though? That's where all my dad's stuff is. People ask me all the time they're like, doesn't your dad have
Starting point is 01:47:53 like 30 unmade scripts? And I'm like, yeah and they're all owned by the movie studios that were paying him to write them while he smoked cigars and hung out
Starting point is 01:47:59 with the Hells Angels. Like, I can't get them. Not a bad life though. That's what I'm saying and he wonders he's like, can't you go like conveniently forgets because he had a stroke like 15 years ago i mean sorry but he did and he'll he'll like he'll be like hey why don't you because he knows i make movies now he's like you you daughter you make my curtis lemay movie
Starting point is 01:48:18 now and i'm like dad i can't you wrote it when you were getting paid all that money by warner brothers remember when you were just hanging out that money by Warner Brothers. Remember when you were just hanging out? That's why. Yeah, you might have. If you could find his old contracts, you could see if it's owned in perpetuity or not. Alright, Josh Coppock says, give me Ian's pagan rocks so I can grind them into holy rosaries. God wills it.
Starting point is 01:48:38 Ooh, I might have a good one for you. The idea is, just for those, because I see some people commenting about it, is if you become a member at TimCast.com and watch our members-only shows, any one of them, Tales from the Inverted World, Cast Castle, and the TimCast Uncensored show, we are going to just scroll in, grab a random comment, send you an email, and be like, hey, it's just random. We saw your name, we picked it, and we're going to send you something from the show. The way I see it is we've got a table full of garbage. Here, Ian, give me that bag behind your laptop. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 01:49:10 Here's a good example. This is a bag of balloons. Luke Kowalski's bazonka balloons. It's just sitting on the table for no reason. And it's because... No, there's a reason. It's because Luke inflated these to put bazonkas... I needed to compete with Libby Evans.
Starting point is 01:49:26 He put them in his shirt, and now this garbage is just sitting here. So I'm like, we need to get rid of all this garbage. What do we do with it? We give it away. We make you responsible for the garbage. So once a week, we'll have someone hit up the people in the comments. Just be like, hey, we've got... It'll always be something relevant.
Starting point is 01:49:45 We're not going to send you a can or a bottle of water. This is kind of cool. Yeah, that's not garbage. That's not garbage. That's cool. That's real money. I wouldn't give this away. That's before the Federal Reserve was formed.
Starting point is 01:49:55 I like this. What money used to be when states would issue their own currency. This is neat. How many sides do you think this has, sir? What is that one? 80? No. 33 maybe? It's not 20. I think that's an 80. What is that one, 80? No. 33 maybe?
Starting point is 01:50:05 It's not 20. I think that's an 80. 40? I think it's 33. 33-sided? No, I think it's 40-sided. That's a lot of sides, though. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:50:13 But we'll send you stuff like that. We'll send you... Like Tim's old lint roll paper. No, we're not going to send that. Dude, your lint would sell, you admit. Why is it so heavy? Use tissues. We do have the auction thing.
Starting point is 01:50:26 We can auction off the weirdest stuff. Splurges boogers on the tissue. The contents of the studio garbage. We gotta send it somewhere. We found a way to get rid of it. It's better than recycling. It ends up just being dumped off the coast. There's a company that would send garbage to politicians.
Starting point is 01:50:42 All right. Here's a good one. Steve Smith, he says, this will be the last episode of TimCast IRL I watch. I can no longer support a show that picks DeSantis over Trump and calls for banning TikTok. Thank you, Tim and Ian, for putting on so many great shows over the past two years. Nobody even said that. Are you trolling? I totally said it.
Starting point is 01:51:00 Banning TikTok is a great idea. Banning TikTok. Like, dude, do you know what TikTok is? TikTok is the worst thing. That's almost as bad as the fentanyl that they sent us. It's digital fentanyl. That's right. It's digital fentanyl. TikTok is 100%
Starting point is 01:51:16 digital fentanyl. And the biggest issue is that it's proprietary software controlled by the CCD. And I will clarify, too. I've not definitively said DeSantis should be the person. I've said there should be an open primary to figure out who has the ability. The Republicans' problem right now is they have too many star players. And the Democrats' problem is they don't even have one.
Starting point is 01:51:37 They literally have no one that can even speak English. Seriously. I just want to finish 22. That's all I'm saying is I'm just like I refuse to get involved in the 24 conversation until we've at least got an answer on 22. I'm so excited for the end of the year. It's going to be great. We got big New Year's plans. All right.
Starting point is 01:51:54 What do we got here? We've got Noah Poa says, actually, the Isu in Assassin's Creed were from a prehistoric civilization. Unimportant, but I couldn't resist the fact check. Okay. Well, there you go. I haven't played that game in a decade or whatever, so. Chris Monkton says, had to search for
Starting point is 01:52:10 Timcast tonight. Normally near the top of my feed. Must be doing something right. Yeah, they're rather unhappy with us. Probably over hosting Milo. I can only assume. That will do it. Milo loves LSD, by the way. He was saying, like, Trump has got to do it.
Starting point is 01:52:25 Trump has got to win. And then YouTube was probably like, oh, geez. Oh, no, he's promoting Trump. What do we do? They love it when we're like DeSantis. Yeah, I didn't get a notification. That's weird. They made a fictional depiction of Milo and DeSantis doing awful things that we described in an after show.
Starting point is 01:52:42 I watched that full episode. It's horrible. It was disgusting. And that wasn't the craziest part of the whole series. Is DeSantis in it? No, no, no, no, no, no. But clearly it's Milo. And then the whole thing is staged with 20,000 white supremacists and
Starting point is 01:52:58 patriot front groups protesting in Chicago and then setting up a terrorist attack to kill all black lawyers. What. Yes. That's the premise of the episode. These people live in a weird way. Dude, I need to see that. That's the premise of the entire episode.
Starting point is 01:53:13 Sorry if I ruined it for you, but it's absolutely deranged and they keep making these slide, crazy, racist jabs that are just mind-boggling and just so very low effort and not intelligent at all i'm in yeah john lloyd says it cannot be understated that how both hobbs and lake are addressing the maricopa county vote count is a huge indicator on how they would handle other issues plaguing their
Starting point is 01:53:36 constituents carrie uh carizona for governor absolutely carrie lake's fantastic absolutely she is she's the vibe what do we got Paul Hine says Jonas Quinn was such a great character I love that he wasn't just a written character he was clearly based
Starting point is 01:53:52 on Corrin and the fascinating person that he is very cool oh thanks how much joy will you have did they give you leeway when you were
Starting point is 01:53:59 building the character at first and then I was banned from using props after a scene when I was we were doing a scene in the main room where you talk about the next mission and all that, the big boardroom. big fruit pile, you know, on a table. So I started peeling this bright orange orange the whole time until I get to my one line of dialogue so I can like eat the orange while I'm saying it, you know, but what they, and they were fine with it.
Starting point is 01:54:32 But then when they got in the editing room, they realized every time they cut to the wide shot, I'm over there just like peeling this orange and everybody's like, what is he doing? And they're not listening to anything else that's going on. And after that, they were like, okay, unless it's scripted, you you can't use it because i was i had a banana in outer space scene that was iconic when it wasn't scripted here we go was it was it scary actually going through the stargate on the show to transport to other worlds yeah that's what people have asked me it's for real
Starting point is 01:54:59 no seriously they really have they're like what's it like going through the stargate and i'm like well you know there's this big thing called a green screen that's right there, you know. And then there's this line that you cross between where the gate is and then where the green screen is. And you step across that. So you're saying there is a Stargate. That's it. I'm just getting that clear. Yeah, there is.
Starting point is 01:55:21 But it will only transport you an inch and a half through present time. And through the air. Were you ever worried the iris would come down on you as you were passing through the Stargate? Okay, now I'm just done. I'm done. Well, it was called the giant toilet bowl is what kind of was everybody getting flushed. You know somebody peed through the Stargate. Everybody's getting flushed. And wasn't it like they had one static prop and then one mobile prop
Starting point is 01:55:45 and so they had to keep using the mobile one for all the different scenes on every different planet? I think there were, yeah, there was a number of Stargates they had
Starting point is 01:55:52 and they had some that didn't work and some that did. So, I mean, the one that was the primary one in the SGC, I mean,
Starting point is 01:55:59 that thing could work, all the chevrons opened and closed, it spun around, it lit up. I mean, I was like... Was it the same one from the movie? Like, did they just no it wasn't it wasn't the exact same what was the new
Starting point is 01:56:08 one yeah because i remember reading about how fans would be like how come this one will rotate and lock in the things but then outside on other planets it just lights up yeah because it's way too expensive to be bringing that that thing all around all the blood it's a good show man if you guys haven't watched it it's it's an show. It's super good. I love how they use ancient god mythology into the sci-fi. That's why I'm so into it. I love that. Druid Arrow says, Constitutional anarchist party.
Starting point is 01:56:34 Libertarians, constitutionalists, and anarchists form a party. Three branches of government. Why not full three parties since half population doesn't vote? Maybe they will fall in these views. Okay. I like it. We cast our votes by not voting. Anarchy just means no government,
Starting point is 01:56:50 not no law, correct? I think we're at the point where... No ruler. Without authority. No ruler, yeah. And with no authority. Anarchy, yeah. You could have law, though?
Starting point is 01:56:59 No. No, there's no authority. So you as an individual could, and then who's going to listen to you? Who's going to hold the weapons? Yes not weapons but like who would punish you right that's who will enforce the law this is why this is why i say that uh antifa is not anarchist they try to claim they are but they're not they're the opposite they're like statists they're totally but but it's not even that it's like if you're a group that has a name and a brand and flies a flag with
Starting point is 01:57:21 core tenets and you beat people until they do what you want, you are not an anarchist. Sounds kind of fascist. You're violating the non-aggression principle. Anarchy is more like trying to convince someone. So you go to someone and say,
Starting point is 01:57:39 I'm going to try and convince you to do something. Non-aggression principle. I'd be thrown out of that society in five seconds. Steven C. says TikTok is nothing but an online insane asylum. Not in China. In China, it's very wholesome. Yeah, true. It's all educational.
Starting point is 01:57:57 You can't even be on after 10pm. You're only allowed a certain amount of time on that platform. Jeremy Abramson says, another thing on the Civil War to bear in mind is that the popular opinion in the North was that the slave states had an unfair influence over the federal government, such as
Starting point is 01:58:14 with the Fugitive Slave Act. But they weren't actually adhering to that. The Fugitive Slave Act did make it more complicated because it messed with all the... Just push it to the right side. Push it to the right side?
Starting point is 01:58:29 Yeah, there you go. What were you saying about the Slave Act, Amanda? Because it took the law on the road. So it was very... I think it made it more complex because that meant that in a free state, a slave would be under the law of the state that he came from versus the state he was in, which makes things much more complex and not functional then,
Starting point is 01:58:55 but like just having a line and being like under here is the agriculture world where we require slavery. And over here is the, the North where we don't. Uh, the fugitive, who passed the Fugitive Slave Act? It was actually relatively old compared to when the Civil War happened. It had been around for a while,
Starting point is 01:59:13 and it wasn't being enforced. So slaves would escape to the North. It's kind of a non-issue, yeah. And then the North would just be like, we don't care. Well, it was a serious issue. The South was like, the federal government won't actually enforce the law
Starting point is 01:59:23 to protect what they viewed as their rights rights and so this was bringing distrust part of the issue that's what yeah so taking an old law and demanding the federal government use the old law led to a civil war we got to keep that in mind no no no no no that's not why i'm not saying that's what happened that's a contributing like amongst many other issues like that's a contributing issue amongst others other issues like that's a contributing issue amongst others but like that that's something that makes it more complex you're taking your law on the road if there if there if there was no slavery like there would not have been a civil war but the fighting and the cause of it was extremely eventually there was going to be a civil war
Starting point is 01:59:59 there's a law now what they use to prosecute journalists it's uh trashing the joint over there there's like a what is that called that law yeahute journalists. It's a... Trash in the joint over there. There's like a... What is that called? That law? Espionage Act. Yeah, the Espionage Act. So if people are starting to appeal to federal government, hey, use the Espionage Act on this person.
Starting point is 02:00:13 Like Obama? Yeah, yes, like Obama. All right, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, become a member at timcast.com. As I mentioned, comment on a members-only video, and then
Starting point is 02:00:25 we might pick like five people once per week, like maybe on a Friday. We're going to get started probably next week, and then we will hit you up and be like, hey, where can we send you something cool? And we've got post-its, as I mentioned, that Milo filled out basically explaining the censorship of YouTube. They're hilarious. They're really cool.
Starting point is 02:00:41 And we'll send those out. There might be like eight of them. Then we've got, you know, Luke's bazunga balloons. It's just knick-knacks. Bazunga balloons. Beautiful. Knick-kn. And we'll send those out. There might be like eight of them. Then we've got, you know, Luke's bazunga balloons. It's just knickknacks. Bazunga balloons. Beautiful. Knickknacks. We'll send them out. Joe's here, too.
Starting point is 02:00:51 Ian's got rocks. We'll see what you get. I like this one. So, again, smash that like button. You can follow the show at TimCastIRL. You can follow me at TimCast. Amanda, do you want to shout anything out? Plot Against the President on DVD makes a really good gift for your boomer parents
Starting point is 02:01:05 or grandparents, and it's available on Target, Amazon, Walmart, and you should watch it anyway if you want to know what's happening. Right on. Corin, you got anything to shout out? First, I've got to shout you out. Thanks so much for having me here.
Starting point is 02:01:21 I really appreciate that. It's been great. Sure, man. As far as that goes, you can just follow me on Twitter or Instagram. Those are about the only two I do. I do have a fan site on Facebook, but it's IamCoronemic, the letter I, the letter M, and my name, Coronemic,
Starting point is 02:01:35 spelled like it is. There you can get updates because I got too much going on to explain in such a short amount of time. So follow me there and I'll fill you in. That was great and extremely entertaining. Thank you for both of you guys for coming. My website is lukeuncensored.com. I did a very interesting video about Dave Chappelle's interview with Oprah, which I think relates to what's happening to Kanye West and Kyrie Irving. Lots of different things that I think are worth talking about deep down the rabbit hole. I
Starting point is 02:02:03 discussed them specifically on lukeuncensored.com. See you there for the conversation. that I think are worth talking about deep down the rabbit hole. I discussed them specifically on Luke uncensored.com. See you there for the conversation. And I think after this show, it's official. We got to have Milo and Amanda on at the same time. I would love to see together. I don't drink booze all together in one show. I do not drink, so it's not good.
Starting point is 02:02:20 Milo, I love Milo and he's always been very nice to me and I can't wait to hang out with them. I was really hoping I was going to see him tonight. I think you're both around Sunday? Probably, yeah, sure, fine. We can do Sunday. I mean, I live here, so I'll do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:35 That'd be cool. I also love a good Friday night rodeo where Tim is the bull. Thank you for hosting and letting us ride you all night, Tim. Wonderful what you do, man. That's right. Love you. And great to see you guys. Serge, you're the best.
Starting point is 02:02:48 Love you, man. It was a good time. Thanks, guys, for tuning in. I'm glad I remember the end of it this time. That's nice. We're going to have clips up all weekend as we normally do. Become a member at TimCast.com, and we'll see you all next week. Cheers.

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