Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #660 New Report CONFIRMS INSANE Paul Pelosi Story, NBC Accused of LYING w/Michale Graves

Episode Date: November 17, 2022

Tim, Ian, Luke, & Serge join Michale Graves of The Misfits to discuss NBC finally revealing what happened on the night of Paul Pelosi's attack, Republicans officially taking back control of the House ...while Democrats try to prevent Trump from running in 2024, Chinese President Xi roasting Justin Trudeau, Youtube fact checking its own video on the new world order, Ukraine's president calling for an escalation in the war due to his country's own rockets hitting Poland, liberal media laying off staff, and Graves explaining the culture needed to defeat the establishment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The story of Paul Pelosi, a tragedy. A man struck him in the head with a hammer. I mean, it's a brutal attack. I'm glad that he's getting better. Nancy Pelosi gave a heartfelt interview saying that this was a contributing factor into why she may retire. Or it could be that the Democrats just lost the House formally. It is now confirmed Republicans have taken control.
Starting point is 00:00:24 They knew they had control. They knew they had control. They were already having those meetings. But now something interesting has happened. A story came out from the Today Show. They deleted it. They never issued a formal retraction. They said it just wasn't up to their standards, but didn't give an explanation. Where Paul Pelosi apparently opened the door for the cops, didn't complain, didn't say there was an emergency, calmly walked back to this man and then fought him. And it's very confusing. Well, they pulled that video down. We now have a new report coming out confirming much of those details, leaving many to question why it was that NBC pulled their story. Could it be they pulled it before the midterms and other midterms are over?
Starting point is 00:01:00 The story is fair game again. I don't know, man, but we're going to talk about it because it is weird to say the least. We also have some other stories that are quite fun and funny. The Democrats are already trying to invoke the 14th Amendment to stop Trump from being able to run for office, which is just nonsense insanity. And Zelensky is, I can only say, I guess, trying to invoke World War Three, because even after NATO said, hey, guys, that missile strike, actually Ukrainian. Big mistake. Zelensky is like, no, no, no. So hopefully this man doesn't drag us into World War Three, but he's now being criticized by even members of NATO that he's too overzealous and needs to calm down. We get it. Before we get started, my friends, head over to TimCast.com. Become a member by clicking that Join Us button,
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Starting point is 00:03:00 and I'll also pin it in the chat for you guys to see. Joining us today. Smash the like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share this show with your friends um you can yeah joining us today we're gonna get into it joining us today to talk about a whole bunch of stuff is michael graves yeah thanks for having me yeah who are you this is awesome thanks for coming man man. Well, my claim to fame is I joined the Misfits in 1995, left in 2001, and continued my musical journey onward. Gleefully canceled in 2004 for a host of things, including saying the word Jesus. How dare you? Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Blasphemy. I know. In Hollywood? It's a terrible thing. Yeah, well, I know. Blasphemy. I know. I know. It's a terrible thing. Yeah, well, my family's very upset with me. But yeah, you know, I'm like the Forrest Gump of music. There you go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Yeah, that's who I am. I'm a music man. You do great work. Misfits are awesome, by the way. Thank you. So super excited to have you here. Thank you. It should be fun. We also got Luke wearing a shirt with Karl Marx on it. Hey, guys.
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Starting point is 00:04:23 gives me that by some homeless guy, which is a t-shirt that is awesome. If you want to experience this amazing moment with your fellow baristas, you could get the shirt on thebestpoliticalshirts.com. Because you do, this is why I'm here. And this is definitely worth a real life troll that is really fun to put on the yuppies. I like that a lot. Gibbs, give me that. Gibbs me that.
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Starting point is 00:05:29 at surge.com as well by the way let's get into this first story wow bay area nbc station is running report questioning the circumstances of paul pelosi's hammer attack which include the same details as today's show segment retracted for inaccuracies and left star reporter Miguel Almaguer, as I pronounce it, suspended. This is particularly interesting. They say NBC News is under mounting pressure to explain its actions after suspending star reporter Miguel Almaguer over one of his Today Show segments on the Paul Pelosi hammer attack. It took the action despite a second report on the company-owned and operated NBC Bay Area station that repeats many of the same points in Almaguer's report.
Starting point is 00:06:14 They're going to mention that NBC removed the footage from its website hours after angering November 4th. Now, we do have another report from Fox News. And this is what they mentioned that's very, very interesting. I want to read this one. NBC News national correspondent reported on November 4th for today for the Today Show that police didn't know they were responding to the Pelosi residence. Pelosi opened the door for police but didn't attempt to escape or declare an emergency and even walked away from law enforcement and toward his eventual attacker. They go on to mention last Friday, exactly one week after all McGare's report was mysteriously retracted with little public detail, NBC San Francisco local affiliate, which is branded
Starting point is 00:06:55 as NBC Bay Area, aired an explosive report with highly similar details indicating Pelosi opened the door for police and didn't immediately attempt to escape. So the initial story, someone broke into the Pelosi residence, screamed, where's Nancy in his underwear with zip ties and struck Paul on the head. Now that then turned into he OK, he was actually clothed. OK, a third man opened the door, but we don't know who it was. They changed the story again. And now the Today Show comes out and says Paul Pelosi opens the door, but we don't know who it was. They changed the story again. And now the Today Show comes out and says Paul Pelosi opens the door, doesn't try to escape, walks back to the guy who says there's nothing going on, and then who strikes him. And now the story is being confirmed again, I should say, after the Today Show retracted, not even formally retracted, just deleted the video. I have to wonder what really happened
Starting point is 00:07:46 of course the the theory from the right is that it was a late night either drug deal or love romp gone wrong and the police responded and you know lovers quarrel of some sort i think drug deal makes more sense which is why they're they're you know look it's 3 a.m paul pelosi's like send in the crazy weirdo guy who's got the drugs fight breaks out over cash or something like that who knows or maybe the police didn't know they were responding to paul pelosi's house they opened the door and they attacked paul pelosi because he was in his underwear and they assumed it must be a crazy guy or something maybe the cops are the ones who hit him and then they're trying to cover up their story i i feel like if the cops hit him we would be seeing like uh defund the police part two right nobody knows what happened it sounds like two drunk dudes at a bar like just you know people
Starting point is 00:08:35 can get belligerent late night when they're both really hammered and they don't even know what they're talking about that one guy just gets angry and then they're like and then they just start to bump into each other like that's what it sounds like well david and paul were doing well personally i'm just sick of the speculating i don't want to speculate anymore release the body cam footage release the surveillance footage then we could actually know what happened here otherwise you don't give the government any benefit of the doubt we're talking about career criminals who parade themselves around like some high-level politicians and officials they're not These people are up to some really nasty stuff. We're talking about so much corruption within the Pelosi family.
Starting point is 00:09:10 We're talking about so much money that they earned off of America's back. When it comes to government officials and people connected to them, we should always think the worst possible scenario. Always go with that until we actually have some actual evidence. They were doing unspeakable things to small babies. They were sacrificing children. Let's just go with that. If we're going to be speculating what happened here, let's think of the worst thing because we shouldn't be giving government
Starting point is 00:09:31 any kind of credence, any kind of leeway here. And with this story being so crazy insane, they were doing god-awful things to small babies. That's it. I just assumed the worst, I guess. Yeah, absolutely. And you should with government because what government does is probably usually a lot worse than what we actually know actually really
Starting point is 00:09:48 happens but paul's not government he's only government adjacent government adjacent well that's just as bad that's just as bad how did he make all of his money yeah really because of his connections to to government obviously it's pretty clear allegedly it's not even it's not even alleged they make better calls on the stock market than warren buffett okay you don't get that lucky it's impossible to be that lucky like the pelotas have been so come on we know what it is maybe this guy this pop guy was his inside source on wall street and that's how he was making his money and he was telling him to invest in ftx and paul was like no you screwed me that's problem, is that we're able to speculate on this story. We're able to
Starting point is 00:10:27 sit here and try to figure out what happened, and how did everybody get in their underwear, and why weren't the cops there, and the third in line to the presidency. How did everybody get in their underwear? Yeah, where did the hammer come from? And I can't believe that nobody is selling hammers online
Starting point is 00:10:44 like the Paul Pelosi hammer. It's pink and it vibrates. Right, yeah. It'd help you win a chess match, perhaps, if you deploy it correctly. It's some insider humor here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's the thing. All of this speculation could be over with if the government released the body cam and released the actual information that is out there and give us the clear story.
Starting point is 00:11:10 And we are not getting the clear story. This is Paul Pelosi. Is this an excuse for Nancy to retire and try and score points? I don't understand what happened that they're trying to cover it up. It really seems to me like it was something that went wrong. Like you said, maybe it was a bad drug deal or they they were getting weird together who knows and then and then the cleanup team came in they were just like all right what are we going to do we gotta we gotta make this look like something and then the the script writers came
Starting point is 00:11:36 in and and said all right well let's make it like this because think about how much power is being wielded by these people and many times holly does work with the Pentagon when it comes to scripting narratives. We have seen time and time again, something happens in Iraq and they're like, okay, what can we say actually happened? What really happened? Those are two completely different things. How can we use this event and change it for the best PR purposes? We saw that with Jessica Lynch. We saw that with mainline Hollywood directors and producers getting involved and saying,
Starting point is 00:12:07 you know what, this story of the Iraqis taking her to a hospital and trying to help her doesn't really fit our narrative. Let's send in the tanks and let's say that they were holding her hostage. Again, they made so much things up when it came to war. They make so much things up
Starting point is 00:12:22 when it comes to just our everyday life. Everything from them should be seen as fake. Nothing should be believed by government or the authorities until we actually have some real life evidence that we could back up their statements on because they are pathological liars, satanic individuals, some of them that do awful things that we can't even imagine how terrible they are. I'm okay. You know, I'm sitting here and I see this story and it's a crazy story. And I'm trying to figure out why whatever it is they're doing matters so much they don't want anyone to know about it. Like they suspended a star reporter from the Today Show for reporting what now sounds to be fact.
Starting point is 00:12:58 What is so important about this moment, this incident, that they don't want us to know about it? This is the crazy thing because i kind of look at this and i'm like whatever paul pelosi's doing i don't care about right yeah but to go to this degree it sounds like something they were doing must have mattered like politically or something i think i think it's it's an effort to to fend off what these who these people really are the depravity they just don't want their true colors to to show even though we all know it obviously this man abuses some sort of substances or something going on these people are not on the up and up at least booze yeah from what we know about publicly on the record he got busted driving drunk like within six months ago or something and
Starting point is 00:13:44 that's a problem. If someone, especially when they're 80s, is driving home drunk enough to get him. I mean, not even drunk enough, just drunk in general.
Starting point is 00:13:51 I've driven drunk a couple of times in my life. It was probably some of the worst. I was like near suicidal at that period of my life too. Like step on the gas and just wait for it to happen.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Kind of suicidal. And that is a bad state of mind to drive drunk. If someone's like, if you don't have that kind of self-control where you can be like actually have to drive i'm gonna put it down that's indicates a big problem psychologically so i imagine the guys got maybe obviously maybe look the midterms this this happens right before the midterms yeah they pull the story after the
Starting point is 00:14:20 midterms story pops back up on an nbc. It could just really be it makes the Pelosi's look freaky and weird. And it was bad for Democrats. Republicans were running the story that there was a gay love romp or something and they wanted to shut it down. So NBC colluding, you know, or seeking to help, maybe not colluding, Democrats pulls the story until after the midterms. That could be it. It could really be as simple as Paul Pelosi's a weirdo who does freaky things in the middle of the night yeah i think that's for sure i mean not
Starting point is 00:14:47 for sure but i think that's the case but the connection to january 6 see how it's it's connected to january 6 he walked in there and and was saying where's where's nancy where's nancy oh well of course he was saying that that's another point that's all the that's all those people are going to hear that's all the the libs are going to hear. Like, oh! So the question is, did they twist an existing story to make it sound like insurrection? Sure. Or did they fabricate a story to try and win points before an election? I think it's exactly what I said before. Something happened.
Starting point is 00:15:19 The truth happened. That was something that has to do with depravity. Nobody broke into that house nobody just broke into that house started walking around with the hammers held up in the bathroom that's craziness it sounds you know it keeps changing so at this point i'm not inclined to believe what their version is yeah and the fact that paul pelosi was not threatened when the cops answered the door and that's the new detail now being confirmed you know clearly he knew this guy there's got to be cameras in that house.
Starting point is 00:15:45 There is. If that dude was running around in his underwear going, where's Nancy? Where's Nancy? We would see it over and over and over. That's true. For their propaganda purposes, they would, of course, weaponize that footage and have it everywhere so we couldn't ignore it. We would have to see it everywhere.
Starting point is 00:16:00 And we saw the corporate media after this being like, it's the conspiracy theorists that are the problem here. They're the ones that are crazy they're the ones that we have to stop they're the ones that we have to go over we have to make sure that people can't be able to speak to each other and now they're punishing journalists like this miguel reporter by the way this reporter uh miguel alamargar hasn't tweeted since november 4th he's the one that got suspended for originally reporting the story which we talked about on this show that was specifically based on police sources what's happening to him i want to hear from this guy miguel if you're out there what's going on here because this is absolutely crazy
Starting point is 00:16:33 what kind of story you're involved i'll tell you about conspiracy theories there's there was a tweet i can't remember who i saw this was a verified twitter account saying that uh putin is pushing an insane conspiracy theory that the missile that hit Poland was Ukrainian. We can't allow Russian disinformation, blah, blah, blah. Sure enough, turns out even the West is now saying exactly that. So we'll definitely get into the Ukraine stuff in a minute. But I just want to point that out. When they come out and they're like, it's a conspiracy theory, don't believe it. Typically, that means, you know, I better look into that because you can't believe these people.
Starting point is 00:17:08 But I think politics may have played played a role. Let's jump into the next story, because I think it's funny that the lead for this podcast was not Republicans take control of the House. NBC News projects. So it is now formally confirmed. We knew this was going to happen. That's why we were all saying, yeah, we get it. Republicans won the House. But now it's formalized. There's no recounts. Nothing's going to change. The only question now is how many seats will the Republicans actually gain in the end of this?
Starting point is 00:17:36 It's looking like 219, but it could actually be a little bit more depending on recounts and we'll see. But I just want to point out, this is massive. They're already talking about investigating fauci and we and the lead for this show is like paul pelosi has weird you know lovers trist romp hammer attack or something like that because i kind of well i guess i guess we kind of knew the republicans were going to take the house but the question that i guess for everybody else is how excited are you on a scale of uh one to? I am three only because when I think of this issues and what we're going through right now, we've talked a lot about left and right and blue and red, but I'm starting to think it's actually like an economic plan that's happening right now.
Starting point is 00:18:15 It's very complicated. There's lots of people with lots of different ideologies making moves and trying to take control. And they want us to think that it's a binary thing between them and us. But really, it's a binary thing between them and us. But really, it's a bunch of different economic pressures. So this stuff is kind of like
Starting point is 00:18:30 the mask that we are talking about that is being created, in my opinion, by the villain. If it's a villain, if there's going to be a villain. Maybe I'm the villain. One to ten,
Starting point is 00:18:41 how much I'm excited for the Republicans? Is that what you're asking? For them gaining control of the House. Zero. I don't think it's going to matter. I didn't say zero to ten. I said one through ten, Luke.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Come on. Zero point one. He won't do it. Come on. Negative. They're not going to change anything. This is not going to do anything. And the Republicans have been pathetic.
Starting point is 00:19:01 You don't think they're going to go after Fauci? In the House? Yes. They have subpoena power and investigatory power now. I'd be very surprised if they do. I hope they do. They've already started talking about doing it. Come on, you've got Thomas Massey in the House.
Starting point is 00:19:12 He'll do something. Rand Paul is apparently having meetings as well. He's in the Senate. I know he doesn't have the same power, but... It's not looking too good. What do you think, Dad? They did choose McCarthy and McConnell for leadership. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I echo Luke's sentiment. I would go with a one. A one. I just don't think it just does. I don't think that they, I hate saying they, I just don't think that they will let us win. I think it leans towards like the QAnon stuff, like where you go, all right, we got the house now.
Starting point is 00:19:43 We got our people in. Here we go. We're going to investigate. Fauci's going down. We're going after this guy. We're coming out with our hammers. Ah, touche, touche. You know, and once again,
Starting point is 00:19:55 it's setting us up for this disappointment when we need to be saying, looking at the reality of it. Unless, well, look, I'm certainly certainly not a one i'm not going to pretend like republicans coming in uh pushing mccarthy and mcconnell to the top again is any kind of real victory but 31 members of the house did reject mccarthy so there may be some leverage from the free i think it was mostly the freedom caucus that they were basically like nope yeah i think we'll see some stuff look we're not gonna we're not gonna uh win everything instantly but i'm feeling pretty good i mean it's look it's
Starting point is 00:20:29 better than democrats doing january 6 hearings i agree and and i think and i'm not completely sure on the process but uh the the vote for leadership doesn't take place until january i think until they reconvene and no i think that they did you mean for the for the party for the house they yeah they i think oh oh it's right it's nomination i think is that what happened i think so no no no no i think i think i think mcconnell is he did win didn't he i don't know so in fact i'm pretty sure they they've they've already had the vote matt gates i think maybe not matt gates um and someone and i can't remember whom the senate were trying to get it postponed, saying like,
Starting point is 00:21:06 I think it might have been Hawley, I'm not sure. Saying like, we should wait on this, but I'm pretty sure they did. I'm pretty sure. Maybe I'm thinking of the House. It says Mitch McConnell wins secret ballot election to continue leading Senate Republicans seven hours ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:18 From CNN. I know, right? That's just my wishful thinking. I've got like this feeling, like if we're talking about the future of humanity, that it's a big global project. And we as Americans, a lot of us are stuck in the American perspective where we're only looking at ourselves. And that if we can do this, then the whole world will win. But like I think a lot of people in the rest of the world are looking at us like goofballs obsessed with the circus that we're in right now.
Starting point is 00:21:41 And like, hey, you know, let's exit the circus and look around. Sort of. So one to 10, what are you, Tim? For McCarthy. Well, so for McCarthy? I mean, this is essentially what you tried to get me to answer. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:21:55 This is why I said zero. I'm excited that there's a small handful of Republicans who can have some pressure ability. But I'll put it this way. If one is I'm extremely disappointed, ten is I'm excited as I ever have been, and five is kind of, eh, I'll say six. You know, like when you say one,
Starting point is 00:22:13 you're saying like, I'm mad about this. This is the worst thing ever. This is bad for us. Five is where you're like, meh. I say six. I'm cautiously optimistic that the circumstances we have to look forward to with Democrats is more January 6th nonsense, waste of our time, things that no one cares about. With Republicans, it's like, OK, I guess hopefully they'll start talking about Fauci or something.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Maybe not, but whatever. The January 6th stuff is done. It's subjective because I just don't see any kind of larger solutions out there. I don't see them making life better for the average American, especially with McCarthy just controlling everything. He's going to be protecting a lot of people inside of the establishment and making sure that the Republicans aren't too wild, aren't too crazy, don't make too much crazy moves. So he's there to keep everyone in line. And I think that's exactly what they're going to be doing here. And it's not like they have a lot of wiggle room here. They barely were able to win this. So as far as my optimism in politics it's none my optimism is with the people of the united
Starting point is 00:23:09 states it's with local officials local individuals taking charge of their life and being responsible for themselves rather than giving all of their power and authority and money to politicians that don't give a damn about okay okay no i agree on a lot of those points we have this other story from timcast.com that goes along with this. House Democrats maneuver to stop Trump's 2024 presidential bid. House rep cites the 14th Amendment's insurrection clause as basis to deny return to high office. This is what we have to look forward to if the Democrats retained control of the House. That's a good point. They'd be just going, the 14th Amendment, man.
Starting point is 00:23:42 They'd be banging on the walls. We ought to pad the walls to help them out. You think they can't get a Republican to flip in the 14th amendment man they'd be banging on the walls we ought to pad the walls to help them out because you think they can't get a republican to flip in the house i think they can't i think they still could go forward with this and then they just go to the republican and be like you know that trip you made to the island you know those videotapes we have on you are you gonna vote with us or do you do you want some larger expose on tmz what do you want there or they'll go to mccarthy be like look mccarthy we'll give you you know something we'll give you a little bit but we want to make sure
Starting point is 00:24:09 this happens mccarthy would be for this we got to understand this the old republican base point would be for this so this is why again i don't have a lot of hope yeah right and meanwhile they have the media in their pocket and so as they're doing that they're churning out the narrative and they're just once again corralling the, which puts us in a very difficult position when we have things like nuclear war, what's a two-party system that pretends to be fighting each other most of the time. Sometimes they really do fight, but most of the times it's all pretend. It's all WWE. It's all entertainment. It's all showmanship.
Starting point is 00:24:53 But that feels a little archaic to me. I mean, I agree mostly, but since Donald Trump got into office, we started seeing a whole bunch of Libertarian and America First candidates. I'm not saying they overlap. They're both anti-establishment factions. The House Freedom Caucus, where Ron DeSantis, I believe he helped found it, has been pushing back and expanding within
Starting point is 00:25:12 the Republican Party. So that's what I'm looking at. Obviously, I'm not excited for Mitch McConnell. No one likes this guy. This is the funny thing. I pulled up the civics polls and went through every single demographic, not a single demographic views him favorably not even republicans right so how's this guy how's this guy leading the charge
Starting point is 00:25:32 because there's because there's they're all cowards exactly and there's a reason ftx was donating not only overwhelmingly to democrats but also to the gop people don't forget a lot of when it comes to this larger ftx story which is is, I think, very important. You don't just see the Democrats being bought off here. You see about $23 million going specifically to the Republicans as well. So a big money plays a lot of influence in our politics. And we have to understand once we get rid of that influence, once we get rid of that money, then we could actually have some real conversations. But at the end of the day, these representatives aren't representing us. They're representing a special interest that bought them off, paid them off, and they're
Starting point is 00:26:09 going to be doing their bidding no matter what. And there is some infighting, sure. But even before that, there was the Tea Party. There was essence of people saying, this is crazy that we're dealing with these two parties here that are controlling our dialogue, that are controlling our life. We need to stop this because this is how they fool and kid everyone to vote for the lesser of two evils while always presenting evil. And I'm just sick of it. I'm not going to sit here and defend the GOP leadership or their party or anything like that. I'm only excited for the small faction of like the Freedom Caucus and the people
Starting point is 00:26:38 who are actually pushing back. Obviously, the fact that they've chosen McCarthy and McConnell for leadership, it shows you exactly where this Congress is going to be. And it's unfortunate. That's reality. You're going to get a whole bunch of Republicans saying like, no, now, now we can't go off investigating Joe Biden because we're going to take the high road and just let him do whatever they want. Or it's going to be more like we got to take the high road on this and not investigate. Heaven help me if they find out how I was involved. Yeah, there definitely are
Starting point is 00:27:09 a lot of good people that are making inroads that have been elected that are making decisions based on the right things and not that videotape coming out of that trip you made last week
Starting point is 00:27:23 or how much money they're going to get or things like that. They're working for their, you know, the treasure here on earth. You think there are people that are, have actually good intentions that are bought off? I think so.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Sure. Somebody like Marjorie Taylor green, I think, you know, Thomas Massey. Yeah, sure. Both independently wealthy.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I think too. They came, Marjorie already had a successful business when she ran. I think Thomas also, I don't think Thomas Mas successful business when she ran. I think Thomas also. I don't think Thomas Massey is rich. Okay. I don't know what his situation was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:51 MIT, he built the cluck capacitor. That's it. The chicken thing. An inventor. My friend has one of those in New Hampshire, Jane Yoon. He's an awesome human being. He builds cluck capacitors. They're incredible.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I said this before on the show. I talked to Thomas Massey after he was on the show last time he was like dude congress is it's like a i don't know how he exactly described he's like it's like a fraternity it's like a not a fraternity but like it's like high school like people emotionally yelling and like i'm not gonna talk to that bitch you know like that kind of stuff and he's like an engineer scientist and he's like we this is insane we need more science we need more Yeah. And he's just like, wow. But you do it anyway because you're called to it for whatever reason. But let me ask you guys this.
Starting point is 00:28:31 On a scale of 1 to 10, how excited are you that Trudeau is not our leader? We have the story from the Daily Mail. President Xi humiliates Trudeau as he is caught on camera tearing strips off Canadian PM. That their conversation at the G20 has been leaked to the papers. It's not appropriate. This was the most epic cringe I've seen. And let's be real. So in this video, Trudeau is trying to talk to Xi Jinping. Cameras pop up. And man, Trudeau looks weak. It looks like a mouse staring at an elephant. Xi Jinping won't even look at his face. That's how little respect he's giving him. I get it. Canada is a small nation. Xi Jinping's
Starting point is 00:29:11 probably like, why is this guy thinking he can talk to me? But talk about humiliating. I don't know. Did you guys see this one? Yeah. It's definitely an example of a language barrier. Poor Trudeau. The poor guy. I mean, he probably had his socks ruffled from this interaction. That's probably the most confrontation he got in his entire life. And this is sad for him, mainly because he loves China. He talked about how he adored China, being able to change the economy on the dime. He adores what China is doing and is replicating those same policies inside of Canada. Of course, imprisoning his protesters, debanking people who dare speak out against him, disarming the local population there.
Starting point is 00:29:51 And now, of course, offering euthanasia to, of course, the poor people there and the depressed people there. Who does that? What kind of political leader does that? Despotic leaders. And when he was looking to Xi, his beautiful overlord that he wants to replicate all of the policies, he just got smacked down right in the face. And it was incredible to see the body language there because it said a lot. And when Xi told him off, you see Trudeau be like, I hope you have peaceful, rational discussions in the future. And then Xi's like, what? And then he walks off like Forrest Gump. It it was pathetic it was sad and it shows you
Starting point is 00:30:25 how weak a lot of these individuals are that do create the bad times that we have to live through it's kind of like when someone raises a pet alligator some people are like i'm gonna have the most dangerous animals pet and then one day the animal grows up and bites him in the leg and like and they have to euthanize the animal and you just see that like the disbelief and sadness in the owner's face like this can't happen't happen when the monkey ate that woman's face. Oh, jeez. I feel really bad for Trudeau. I do.
Starting point is 00:30:50 I feel a deep sadness. It reminds me of that time that, I don't know if this story is true because I'm having trouble finding source on it. But it's Elon Musk was asked about Neil Armstrong criticizing him. And Elon cried. Because, you know, Elon really looked up to Neil Armstrong, had this dream of expanding the space program and all that stuff. And to hear that one of your heroes
Starting point is 00:31:11 was mocking or criticizing you must be so brutal for Trudeau to finally get to meet his hero only to be just poo-pooed and shoot aside must have been truly devastating for the man. What was it exactly that happened that caused this conversation? Did you guys hear like something was leaked?
Starting point is 00:31:28 So Z was mad because they were supposed to be having private conversations between them. The topics of those conversations was leaked to the Canadian press, obviously from Trudeau, who didn't keep his word and promised to keep conversations
Starting point is 00:31:40 secret and private between the two. So this is also something that Emmanuel Macron did to Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin was also mad at him because Emmanuel Macron had a documentary film crew recording some of the conversations that they thought was private, that they thought wasn't going to be discussed to the general public. And they were talking very frankly. And this shows you that Trudeau wasn't a man of his word, wasn't a man of honor because they agreed, hey, what we say here stays between us it didn't it was leaked to the media by trudeau and then trudeau's like trudeau leaked it uh someone in in the trudeau administration if not trudeau himself and then xi jinping was like yeah
Starting point is 00:32:14 it's not cool i'm paraphrasing was like yeah that's not cool dude and then trudeau was like we like to have open dialogue and make sure and xi jinping was like buzz off and like just turns and like walks off like what is he talking about open dialogue that's not a concept that i'm familiar with no i just want someone should take that that interview of elon musk crying and deep fake trudeau's face on it and then have the interviewer ask the question like you met your hero xi jinping and he was critical of your your efforts how does that make you feel and he's just like he really he really cried huh huh? Elon? Yeah. So that's the story that I read.
Starting point is 00:32:47 I remember seeing it a while ago. I mean I actually – I feel for Elon in that regard. I guess the story was back in – at the beginning of SpaceX. Neil Armstrong was critical of Elon Musk's attempt at a private space business. And then sometime later after Elon Armstrong Armstrong died Elon was asked about it and Elon apparently a big hero of his was Neil Armstrong I mean that's real that's kind of sad that makes you feel a little sad
Starting point is 00:33:13 I know me too like that's a big bummer imagine like being a little kid and seeing something so profound as a moon landing and space travel and saying when I grow up I'm going to change the world and like you look at what Elon's doing now with SpaceX and how powerful and amazing it is. And Neil Armstrong is never going to see that because he died 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:33:30 But leaving this world critical of Elon, that's got to hurt, man. Yeah. So I can understand how Trudeau feels, you know, being shunned like this. Can you imagine the bootlicking that Trudeau is going to have to do now to get into the good graces of the Chinese king?
Starting point is 00:33:44 Or maybe he'll snap back. Oh, yeah, the other night, Donald Trump, this is last night, referred to Xi Jinping as the king of China, the king for life. And Xi Jinping was like,
Starting point is 00:33:52 I'm not the king. He's like, well, you have all the power you're in for life, so you're basically the king. He's actually a viceroy. This is when the emperor would designate someone
Starting point is 00:33:59 to become a king for life. They're actually the viceroy. They don't have familial, they can't pass the land onto their kid. Upon death, yeah, upon death, it goes back to the empire
Starting point is 00:34:10 and then the emperor can designate another viceroy to lead as the king instead. But there's no emperor. Well, there's the CCP as the party is in control and there's probably one of them. It's a bunch of oligarchs, I think.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Sure, sure. I think, I like viceroy. I wonder if there's a better word though because the emperor would determine the viceroy. The vicoy would die and then to choose someone else or not or they would take right right or not so it doesn't have to be a family thing to correct to six anybody anyone but become a successor if there's no emperor no secession rules with
Starting point is 00:34:37 viceroys if there's no emperor we could say viceroy but maybe there's a better word for it i just don't know i mean maybe there's a better word to describe it's it's not king but you know viceroy viceroy she yeah i'm that it's better than president vice the thing about president we talked with the uh i think i can't remember who we had on we had some china experts and they said president is the wrong word uh chairman chairman is the correct word right yeah but then all of a sudden the media started calling him president for some reason yeah because they're trying to normalize it make it seem like they're trying to equate what he is to our president who's elected i heard that they changed the definition of the word president in china
Starting point is 00:35:14 to make it so that what he was and i don't want to get this wrong did you hear anything about this wait did you say sith lord yes they changed the definition of sith lord in china they changed the definition of something this is what i heard about six years ago so that he could now be literally called the president and it made sense whereas like 30 years ago the word meant something else yeah yeah so just to be clear in 2013 trudeau said that he most admires china when asked specifically which country he admires he said quote there's a level of admiration I actually have for China because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime and say we need to go green. We need to start, you know, investing in solar.
Starting point is 00:35:54 And then he went on and, of course, saying there is flexibility that I know Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who was prime minister at the time, quote, must dream about having a dictatorship where you can do whatever you wanted that i find quite interesting that's a direct quote from justin trudeau from 2013 and then just about 10 years later he meets his hero and it's disappointing yeah he's probably balling his way with fire you get burned you know and this happened publicly so you can imagine what happens not publicly because you could see z and the translator the translator even kind of moved out of the way when the cameras were filming so that we could get trudeau's face in the interaction that the translator was aware of the camera he was like we need this on tape we need the world to see this so this is what's happening publicly what's happening behind the
Starting point is 00:36:37 scenes when the cameras aren't there you could only imagine how much more brazen how much more brutal these politicians are to each other. And I wouldn't be surprised if Xi went up to Trudeau and just slapped him up a couple of times, saying, listen here, boy. You're going to do as I say. And Trudeau's like, yes, sir, yes, I will. Yes, no problem. And I could
Starting point is 00:36:58 actually see that happening. Again, that's not my own theory. I could be wrong. I wanted to do a Winnie the Pooh joke, but I don't know how many people know the Winnie the Pooh meme about Xi Jinping. I think they actually pulled what people thought that he looked like Winnie the Pooh joke, but I don't know how many people know the Winnie the Pooh meme about Xi Jinping. I think they actually pulled what people thought that he looked like Winnie the Pooh, and there were memes of it. And then in China, I think they banned Winnie the Pooh because... Yeah, right. And then he mentioned of it on WeChat and any photos.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Wow. Yeah. Yeah, that's the thing. He looks happy. Xi Jinping actually looks like a really happy, friendly guy when I see his face. He does. I feel like I could laugh it up with him. He does.
Starting point is 00:37:24 He does. The most annoying thing about doing segments on china is that when i'm when i'm looking for uh photos of individuals you can usually see a range of emotion that uh represents part of the idea so like if there's a story where it's like you know joe biden um says x and it's like an angry thing. You could find a picture of Joe Biden giving a finger wave. With Xi Jinping, it's like stone face on every context. It's just a picture of him, and he's just flat face.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Dude should play poker. I'd love to see him play Texas Hold'em. He should be like, I can't tell what he has. Putin's similar. It's probably because he's like ex-KGB. It's like, do not show any emotion. your job is to hold all the cards yeah just compartmental it just push it all down just keep it all in but you're right you're right with xi jinping have you seen the the montage someone made where it's all the different handshakes he's given
Starting point is 00:38:18 and the video is going through every photo really really fast and all the people are flickering and changing and she is the exact same position the whole time through like hundreds of photos the way his body is the way his face is the way his hand is like never changes yeah it's a robot or something well i bet they practice that with something because i don't think joe biden he might practice shaking people's hands but i bet the ccp has choreographed it like they have like meetings and like you learn how to present yourself and how to stand and how to represent tallness next to slouch. Quick correction.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Sorry, sorry. Quick correction. People are saying Elon didn't cry. He almost cried. He almost cried. I want to make sure we're clear because I want to say if he cried, if he didn't. He teared up.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Like Rachel Maddow when she found out Trump didn't clue with Russia. What kind of person cheers on and admires a Chinese dictatorship? A person like Bill Gates, who also admires the Chinese dictatorship, who previously, just a couple months ago, said that they were doing a great job with their zero sickness policy and, of course, also does work business with the Chinese government. And also, you know, what's it called? What does he do?
Starting point is 00:39:24 Works officially. The thing when you give someone advice. Consulting. Consulting. Yeah, sorry. I got a brain fart. He consults the CCP as well. Speaking of Bill Gates, I want to pull up this tweet that I have.
Starting point is 00:39:38 And credit goes to Luke on this one, actually. I saw Luke tweet this out, so I actually went and checked. And it's true. The World Government Summit 2022. and checked and it's true. The World Government Summit 2022, that's what it's called, has a video titled, Are We Ready for a New World Order? In it, the host, Becky Anderson, says, Are you ready for a new world order? And this channel, World Government Summit, is verified by YouTube. And YouTube added a context fact check that says the New World Order is a conspiracy theory which hypothesizes a secretly emerging totalitarian world government.
Starting point is 00:40:14 They have that tag on a video that is from the verified channel World Government Summit. You can't make this stuff up. I'm sorry. Many people are saying we're in a simulation. We're in a sitcom. What is that called? Double speak? Where it's like, you know, you're holding a book.
Starting point is 00:40:32 This ain't a book. I mean, it's a book, but it's not a book. All right? It's the book, but it's not. This one's so good. Yeah. Two plus two equals five. Accept your reality as we tell you it is.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Don't you dare question it. We're building a new world order, but we're not building a new world order because if you say we're building a new world order, you're going to get punished and screwed and demonetized
Starting point is 00:40:51 and downranked in the algorithm. Wait, wait. And we're going to make sure no one sees your videos. Fact check. Fact check. I have to apologize. Correction, everyone.
Starting point is 00:40:59 I now recognize why I'm so wrong about this. The context provided says a conspiracy theory which hypothesizes a secretly emerging totalitarian world government this is overt stated and in your face not a secret it's a different new world order the one public facing one well no no quite simply put the conspiracy theory is that they're trying to keep it a secret no they're straight up telling you they're doing it yeah i think it's funny i they're straight up telling you they're doing it. It's funny. I almost tweeted at you last night. I don't normally tweet right at you guys,
Starting point is 00:41:28 but I think that what's happening is the global economic system is like, in order to avoid World War III, this is like the city's trap, we're going to just transition the new world superpower to become China. So now they're moving, they're corrupting our economy, they printed us out of a bunch
Starting point is 00:41:44 of money. They really I think people really don't understand or care about the American Constitution that aren't from here. Like free speech is like, dude, I'm a corporate executive. I don't you don't have free speech in my corporation. And if we're going to run the world like a corporation, if we have order, you know, we need to stamp down on some of these people that are thinking too freely. And then there was more of the tweet i'll come up with it later but it's uh i just how do we get to this point you know for the longest time they said new world order is a conspiracy theory there was that meme uh seamus over at freedom tunes he did a meme correction video it's hilarious where he's
Starting point is 00:42:18 talking about the reverse pyramid of conspiracies and at the top in like their anti-semitic i think it's in the anti-semitic point of no return section this leftist wrote new world order is is in this conspiracy theory bracket and i'm just like you know they actually have the world government summit they're telling you they're doing it they're not hiding it i think it's when rockefeller and his buddies it's not a theory yeah when they started the federal reserve in 1913 on uh jekyll island they they basically were trying to run the world they didn't ever want to get their companies broke up again, like Standard Oil was by the US government. They're like, we're done with this government crap. And then we had a chance to be like Federal Reserve's busted.
Starting point is 00:42:53 We're not using it anymore. Like 2007, Ron Paul was like, hey, everyone, everyone in the world focus on this. And we kind of did. But then that was our moment to be like, all right, we're done with it. We don't need it anymore. People might have got killed, but we don't need it anymore. And we didn't. We didn't do it. We just we just sat around play video at least i just sat around play video games i was afraid i was going to get assassinated if i spoke up silly me so i just keep my mouth shut now i'm facing this so we have to speak up yeah i think the great reset equals the apocalypse i think when people think about the end of the world or when they think about the apocalypse. They think about this great big explosion.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Then everybody's gone. And certainly perhaps. I mean that could be an outcome. But I think that the great reset for us. Equals the apocalypse. It's this ushering in of. What we're seeing as evil. We're not building anything.
Starting point is 00:43:44 We're destroying something.. We're destroying something, or they're destroying something, to rebuild something that we don't recognize, this postmodern, this very pagan, this whole world sort of thing, this new system. And I also, you think about again like the islamic religion where where the apocalypse has to come in order for their savior to come back
Starting point is 00:44:16 i think so it's true for christianity too right like they're they're cultists yes they're absolutely they're trying to invoke revelation absolutely sure in in some corners of christianity yes you you want to sort of root for the apocalypse for for this for our savior to come back um but it just everything trends towards destruction we're not building anything we're not you know we were just talking about trudeau and and and what was in the news today about um I forget what the acronym for it is is like government assisted assisted death or something made yeah I saw it's called made what is that what what is that are you medically assisted something dying yeah induced death or something like that it's and it's it's And it's an awful, awful thing.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Medical assistance in dying? Yeah. MAD? Like, that's the solution? Like, all right, we got these people who are in pain, people who are... Because Canada's doing this, I think. Yeah. And there are people posting on, like, Tumblr and forums saying, as soon as I'm 18, I'm getting it right away.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Yeah, the pod just shows up at your house. It's like Futurama, man. Bender, you walk in with the coin and suicide booth. The New World Order, it's not a conspiracy. It's something that we're going through right now. It's a buzzword used by many powerful people as a way to try to centralize more power, money, and authority for themselves. It's been talked about for a very long time, predominantly from the David Rockefellers of the world and other very powerful individuals. David Rockefeller, in his own autobiography, by the way, said, quote, this isizing my family and me as internationalist and conspiring with
Starting point is 00:46:07 others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure. One world, if you will, if that's the charge, I stand guilty and I am proud of it. David Rockefeller, his own autobiography.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I asked him about it. I went, I went up face to face and I was like, you still believe in this? Let's, let's talk about this. He, of course, you know, up face to face to him. I was like, you still believe in this? Let's talk about this. He, of course, freaked out and was like that. I assume he said yes. But there's many of these comments throughout history.
Starting point is 00:46:32 So let me ask this. Why is it that Rockefeller writes that in his book? That George H.W. Bush said, we're beginning to see a new world order. And they're specifically saying a world order and a new one. There's the liberal economic order, and they're talking about launching a new one. This is overt. I think the Council on Foreign Relations was it? The website has it discussing the liberal economic order. Why then does the media, YouTube, Wikipedia, all come out and say it's a lie and a conspiracy when they're telling us they're doing it? I think it's because that people are afraid we will establish a new world order with American
Starting point is 00:47:09 constitutionalism, and that could be upending Klaus's dream. Like, we have a—basically, the liberal economic order is over. It's done. It's ending. We need to pull a George Washington socially where we say we give the power away. We give it back to the people because we trust the world and we trust humanity. To answer your question, Tim, it's to demoralize people. It's to show them that we're going to overtly have these plans. We're going to talk about them,
Starting point is 00:47:34 but you can't talk about them because we're more powerful than you are. And this is a part of the larger kind of psyops that's being played here with these mind games. This is essentially a mind game saying, I could do what I want. I could say what I want. You can't. That right there is showing the true power of what the New World Order is in its essence, this kind of larger hypocrisy and abuse of power
Starting point is 00:47:55 as they're using it to gain more power for themselves. I want to stress this point. Do not think of the phrase New World Order as a proper noun. And that's what a lot of people do they think of new world order as like a proper noun no no no it is break each word down to their root meanings and that's actually what the phrase is there is the liberal world order or liberal economic order ian's brought it up many many times we've pulled it up the website from i think i think it's cfr
Starting point is 00:48:21 is that the council on foreign relations yeah and there's also the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group. They're all coalescing with each other, and they all talk about the same thing, building a new world order. And they have websites published on this, NewsGuard certified. And when they say new world order, what they're saying is we're currently in the liberal world order. Now we need a new version of the liberal world order, a world order that is new. The new world order doesn't specifically refer to anything other than they want a global system of control. It's not a secret.
Starting point is 00:48:51 They've said it over and over and over again. Perhaps they're arguing the conspiracy is that people believe weird things about it. I don't know, whatever. But they're doing it, and they're having summits called the World Government Summit. It's verified by YouTube.
Starting point is 00:49:04 So there you go. And at the end of the day, what they're calling for is more centralization, more bureaucracy, more power being held in fewer hands, which, of course, is always ripe for abuse. Whenever we have fewer and fewer individuals of more people, of more land, of more things that they could conquer and subject. This is essentially a form of domination. And that's exactly why there's so much mind games to this where you can't talk about this, but they can.
Starting point is 00:49:34 We need freedom. And I think part of this mad dash towards global governance is because Antarctica is about to become melted and a big giant continent that people are going to try and colonize. And when they do, there will be a global war of's of china and america and russia all trying to take it at once it could destroy the earth maybe they're trying to say no only one of you is going to get it but we i think before before uh antarctica becomes available for for player uh use the the last update patch in the simulation has to occur so So that's the final story arc, which is going to be probably Trump three, three,
Starting point is 00:50:06 Trump three, the, you know, a new hope or, or whatever you want to call it. And then, then we're going to get the, the expansion pack earth simulation to the Antarctic campaign.
Starting point is 00:50:16 you can only rent the expansion pack. You never actually own it. Yeah. That's what you'll like. You'll license it. And then you can create new characters starting in the, in the Antarctica continent. Really excited for this.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Plus the new skill sets that are being released. I hear that journalists will get the ability to communicate via Neuralink in the latest expansion. I like freedom, man. I don't like the idea that cops are on the street corners watching you whenever you walk around. I don't want it. If you don't want it, then join me.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Now, imagine the crazy, crazy insanity that you'll have to deal with when everything's online and they have control of what you see and what you say and what they don't say and what they do to you and what can you call on and can't call out but as you said Tim yeah the CFR website officially says global we're calling for global governance and they have an article on their website what is the liberal world order and they go on and explain hey we need everything in the hands of all these private uh international corporations and banks and we need less representation we need less people being able to decide their own lives and we need that decided by central controllers i always i always like pulling up this article
Starting point is 00:51:10 from world101.cfr.org what is the liberal world order because it is news guard certified 100 out of 100 and it's like how do you get that rating? And especially like CFR, they're not a news organization. Why are they rated 100 out of 100? Sure, whatever. But liberal world order, it's on their website. They say after World War II, the deadliest conflict in the ministry country sought to ensure the world never again would devolve into horrific violence, blah, blah, blah. Here's why we did it.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Here's what we're doing. So when they say we want a new world order, they're saying to advance beyond their old liberal world order. When did that article come out? Because it sounds like something I wrote. They've been talking about it for a very long time, ever since Zbigniew Brzezinski and David Rockefeller helped fund and start the Council on Foreign Relations. And they are a quasi-private, not private club. They have some public meetings. But in private, they also have big members of the corporate media. They have a lot of politicians, even weird politicians like Tulsi Gabbard and other, of course, mainline big politicians that are a part of their meetings. They meet in secret and also talk about and decide policy openly and secretly. Let's jump to this next story, actually. And Luke, I want to throw this
Starting point is 00:52:24 one to you if you want to talk about this. Yeah, I mean, this is a little bit more, I mean, this story, I don't even know where to begin, to be honest with you, because there's a lot of emotions here. So, Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine claimed Russian missiles hit Poland and then immediately started ramping up, calling for reciprocation, calling for more aid and more military, directly blaming Russia before too much was known. Now, you know, fair point. This was AP reporting it because a U.S. official said so. For a world leader to then call for an escalation of war and try and drag us into World War
Starting point is 00:52:56 Three is horrifying. Now we even have NATO countries saying like, yo, this dude's kind of losing it. So maybe it won't be a new world order. Maybe it will be Ukraine sparking World War Three, our foolishness, NATO joining in the fight, getting into a war with Russia, nukes get fired. But some people have pointed something out interesting. So some missiles hit Poland, right? Initially, it was reported that they were Russian. Everybody loses their minds. Some people said it was a false flag. Some people are now saying it was a false flag done so poorly that not even NATO could pretend it was actually Russian missiles. But if it was Ukrainian missiles that struck Poland, then do we call do we do we invoke Article five against Ukraine? I thought that, too.
Starting point is 00:53:40 It's up to Poland, I guess. Poland's like we declare war on Ukraine. Good. Let's stop giving them money at the very least. Yeah. I mean, this is just such a crazy situation that could have escalated so fast. And thank goodness it didn't. I mean, I'm from Poland. I love my country. I don't want to see war. It's already horrible that there's war in Ukraine, that so many people have to suffer through this nonsense. And to have people try to escalate this conflict, trying to get other countries involved in this conflict,
Starting point is 00:54:10 trying to expand this proxy war between the East and the West is extremely reckless. It's extremely dangerous. There's an article that I just tweeted on my Twitter page from The Independent talking about how Zelensky is certain that this blast in Poland came from Russian enemy missiles. Again, no one was certain. No one knew what was going on here. But of course, the corporate media didn't wait.
Starting point is 00:54:29 MSNBC was talking about retaliation immediately. I have an article here pulled up by the Daily Mail saying the West plots their response against Russia. And again, we don't know exactly what happened here. As right now, the president of the United States, the president of Poland, the head of NATO are coming out and saying it actually wasn't a Russian missile. It was most likely a missile that was provided to Ukraine by the West in order to act like a defense system that could have accidentally or purposefully, depending on what you believe here, could have
Starting point is 00:55:00 been a potential false flag, could have not been a flag, could have been a real legit accident here. But with Zelensky's comments here, it really makes you wonder because they were aggressive, they were hyperbolic, and they're extremely dangerous, not only to the people of Ukraine, but the people of Poland, the people of the world. And this situation is reckless and needs to stop immediately. We have this article from the Daily Mail. Zelensky insists missile that hit Poland was Russian, despite NATO, US and even Polish president saying it was a Ukrainian air defense misfire. But all agree Putin to blame for nearly sparking World War Three. Oh, how about that? Well, yeah, Putin did start the war. And we have to understand here, his major calling card throughout all of this is like, it's him specifically saying there's going
Starting point is 00:55:41 to be a new world order. We want Russia to be a part of this new world order. So that's one of his major stances that he's always been making as he's been calling out the West here. But this proxy war is again, reckless, stupid, dangerous. And the corporate media organizations that spread fake news automatically after this didn't offer any retractions, didn't have any edit statements, didn't have any corrections on their articles. The AP literally just changed their article from Russia attacks Poland to something else. I'm surmising here. I'm not exactly saying the exact titles here, but you get the drift of what I'm trying to say here. They were normally spreading dangerous fake news that could have started a global war.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Well, I disagree that they were knowingly doing it. When you don't know what happened, you can't automatically jump to conclusions and state it as fact that's what they did when the stakes are as high as they are exactly yeah and that's exactly what they did they say automatically this is it we don't know what happened here and you see how thirsty these are these people are for a global conflict which should be prevented at all costs here another thing to really consider here is the fact that you know governments and militaries make mistakes all the time. And it could just be a dumb soldier. It could be an accident. It could be a miscalculation. And boom, we have World War III. This is why this conflict needs to be de-escalated, needs to be stopped. People need to come to the table, sit down and
Starting point is 00:56:57 negotiate a peace deal immediately now before it's too late. I agree. I agree that, again, the stakes really are so high with all of this. And it's become just sort of passive, like, well, something else happened today. You know, it's just a headline. But meanwhile, literally, the whole world is at stake with nuclear war. And it's right on our doorstep. And again, as I was saying before about this trend towards destroying everything, why aren't we investing $60 billion or whatever it is in peacekeeping efforts or trying to keep the peace and just stopping all of this,
Starting point is 00:57:46 whoever's dying on both sides, it's just awful. Again, it's the energy that's being created there is sadness and destruction and just awfulness that projects out into the world and beyond in a different realm, and it just makes everything sour and leads us towards towards bad i wish it were as easy as to just say you know we shouldn't have war but the challenge i guess is when you see some of the things that we've seen with um isis for instance and they're
Starting point is 00:58:20 not stopping and they're expanding and the caliphate was growing and growing and growing at a certain point it's like you can cross your fingers and hope for peace all you want, but dangerous people start pushing and doing crazy stuff. Now, I'm not arguing the U.S. should have intervened in the Middle East in the first place. I think U.S. intervention caused the rise of ISIS. But I use this as an example of what do you do
Starting point is 00:58:39 when you see a country expand? Like China's expanding dramatically in the South China Sea. We can sit back and just be like, you know, let's just keep the peace and hope nothing happens. But they keep expanding. The same thing is true. And look, here's the issue. NATO is doing the exact same thing. So I'm not saying there's any good guys here.
Starting point is 00:58:58 But if you're trying to be noble and honorable and just say, I'm going to do everything I can to keep the peace. But the person across from you is just cheating, lying, and stealing, at a certain point it comes to blows. I understand that war is certainly a part of our existence in this space and in this realm, but I do not believe in this instance that war could have been averted or it should be averted. I don't understand why everybody, our administration, our country leans into these sort of things. The anti-war effort, where is everybody that was so upset about war
Starting point is 00:59:38 when it was happening in Iraq and Afghanistan? Everyone was like, yeah, Russians are bad, kill them all. Yeah, 2014, right after the Crimea annexation is when it kicked back up all this anti-Russian. Well, so I'll give you the gist, I suppose. And this is coming from somebody with no clearance. So I have no idea. But I do know that the U.S. wants control of Ukraine, Western forces, NATO, because Russia controls a large percentage of natural gas flowing into Europe, which means that
Starting point is 01:00:04 the economy of Europe is staggered by Russia. So the U.S. basically wants to take control of Ukraine, control the valves of natural gas into Europe, and then put the pressure back on Russia. Russia refuses. War happens. So I suppose you can argue NATO should not have been expanding the way it was, and we'd avoid war. And high gas prices is is better than war i think that's a part of it but i think but we wouldn't have high gas prices we would have lower gas prices if we had just uh better relations with other countries and more free trade in the market russia was charging a lot and so western forces tried to build a pipeline through syria through turkey into europe to compete compete with Russia, but Syria wouldn't allow it.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Surprise, surprise, Syria destabilizes. How fortunate. And like the point is, it's not just about the cost of the gas. It's about how much energy are we getting. So they say the EU was formed explicitly to unify Europe against the growing threat of China. And they need gas, not so much just cheap, but they need more so that they can expand their economy, grow and be able to compete with a growing Chinese economy. Russia was causing problems in that regard because Russia tacitly works with China. So the U.S. was like, we're not going after China first. Russia is the weak target and went after them. Donald Trump was right when he was like China is the bigger threat. And they freak freak out because they're like, yeah, but we want to go after Russia first. So, look, I don't like any of it. I don't think any of it's justified. I think
Starting point is 01:01:29 it's a bunch of paranoia. And I understand the arguments people make about the fear of a of a multipolar world where you could potentially get World War Three. But this is what it boils down to. The liberal world order people do not want russia and china to gain enough power to compete with their new world order their liberal world order because they fear world war three would happen if that was the case so they'll will do they will do everything they can to dominate and crush their opponents by any means to maintain dominance because they think if we're not in charge war this is what gets me though the liberal economic order the best thing for that if they really want that to succeed is to have an alliance with r Russia. Russia is in the center of the world. Essentially,
Starting point is 01:02:08 if you're looking at China and the United States and Europe and all that, Russia is right there. Whichever side Russia goes to is going to gain 60% more. They're going to gain so much power. There's so much land that's hard to travel. If you can put troops in russia you're good to go on a conflict so why would they antagonize if the liberal so that russia has the gdp of italy okay but they also need to understand that the context here they control oil and if they shut off the oil like it's not just about how much they're charging it's about are they even going to give it to you at all but the more oil we have on the market, the cheaper the oil is. Now deliberately denying the oil makes the price of oil go up even more than it automatically would. Even if Russia was price
Starting point is 01:02:50 hiking it, they would still have to compete with other markets. But right now, the price of oil has gone up so much, mainly because of this proxy war, this proxy conflict. What gets me is I think that people are manipulating the liberal economic order to to go to war with Russia to lose its power and and so that they can be like well see it didn't work out kind of thing and that there are people in the liberal economic order that are like they think they're doing the right thing they think that they're preserving democracy and and making freedom but what's really happening is they're antagonizing one of their potentially greatest allies. All of this may be depressing. So let me get into the good news. The good news, the white pill. I want you all to feel much better with this report. CNN head Chris Licht admits layoffs on
Starting point is 01:03:35 the horizon as anxious staffers grill him during town hall. Huge nerves. Oh, no. CNN is going to be laying off more people, guys. Uh-oh. What's this story? From Deadline, Vice Media cuts around 2% of digital news and publishing staff as part of latest consolidation efforts. That's what they call it, consolidation. I call it the end of the old guard. Vice was supposed to be the edgy new media, but they went woke so fast. Now CNN is crumbling down. And I want to stress this as it pertains mostly to CNN. Donald Trump has announced he's running for president.
Starting point is 01:04:11 CNN has been brought to heel is in shambles. Twitter is under the control of Elon Musk. It's going to be a Donald Trump rematch, but without the establishment cultural powers at the level they were in the past several election cycles. So should be interesting, to say the least. But I know Luke is the most sad about CNN's layoffs. I know I need a violin here to reel in this moment here. I can't believe, you know, we can't have so much great. Where else are we going to get the memes from?
Starting point is 01:04:43 Where else are we going to get all the inspiration hold on there that's actually true i know that you weren't kidding we need the opposition yeah if there's no cnn we need the hacks we're not the hacks i mean what are we gonna do i guess i can make memes about about luke you can make me he'll be the only one else in media yeah i'll play the antagonistic idiot for you but the narrative machine is breaking at a time when when we're going to see donald trump come back the the narrative machine is going full swing they're saying he's a drag on the party he's not they're saying there was no red wave there was and they're they're trying to blame donald trump and say he's got to go when in reality what happens is media manipulation and
Starting point is 01:05:26 ballot harvesting. And I'll stress this point too. There was a red wave. Five million more Republican votes than Democrat votes. Sorry, that's just a reality. Just because it wasn't in the right places doesn't mean that there was no red wave. But I get it. If you're arguing red wave meant a wave of victories across the country, agreed. If you're arguing that Republicans turned out in massive numbers, then they did. It just didn't hit the places that mattered most. Did you see how the New York Post covered Trump's announcement? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:05:54 They put it on page 26, and their title was Florida Man Makes Announcement. What? That's how they covered Donald Trump's announcement. They're all terrified of this man. They're saying, look, at the same time, there are... But the New York Post, New York Post, I mean, they're the ones that broke the Hunter Biden story. Sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:06:10 But at the same time that these media outlets are claiming Donald Trump is done and it's over, they're also claiming he's a dangerous insurrectionist who must be stopped at all costs. We get it. I see you. They're terrified. And they're just... Here's what happened. The first time around cnn
Starting point is 01:06:26 and these other woke outlets went for the trump is evil trump is evil everybody stop stop stop well all that did was embolden trump now they're trying to play it cool trump he's so six years ago he's not cool you like trump here's all i am that's not going to work either when trump gets on stage and then starts going after these people, calling them out, people are going to laugh at it. I think that even though we see CNN, MSNBC, these different outlets sort of sizing down, even as long as they can still get their message out and there's no or there's little competition against that message then then mission accomplished because they can put out a narrative they can put out a story or they can put out some sort of spin and then go on all the socials where there's a lot of conservatives and people that are no longer allowed to voice back and so therefore their narrative their lies their or their truth depending on
Starting point is 01:07:27 how you look at it um is able to take root in that way and you know i don't see these like cnn actually making a pivot towards let's actually um tell the truth i mean maybe now every now and again just for just just for fun they they will or maybe just water it down so it's kind of like fox news where you're kind of thinking you're watching the right you know the the the actual news but you're not yeah yeah it's going to be interesting i just want to make a really quick point because there is some rumors that CNN viewership did go up during the Trump announcement. And if you look at CNN's viewership, it's pretty much reliant on Donald Trump. So now will the corporate media get a revival from Trump or will they ignore him? How will this play out?
Starting point is 01:08:21 I don't know 2 million 430 000 views cnn as compared to 5 million 157 000 on fox as compared last night yeah for the trump these are last night ratings yes 1 million 127 000 for newsmax and this is cnn's owned by warner brothers discovery so it's i think at this point which is owned by BlackRock state street, you know, international marketing firms and investment firms. And I think that they're using it as like a form of impact investment at this point,
Starting point is 01:08:50 the CNN news brand, they're just going to use it to, to, to spread their ideology and let the company be damned. Like they'll let it go under and dissipate. They got bought out, you know, I don't know when,
Starting point is 01:09:02 uh, 12 this year, Warner Brothers bought them this year this is going to be interesting do you see trump giving a revival to the media press one in the chat press two if you if you don't see that happening because i'm curious what the people think out there because i don't know it could go either way here so this is uh was it last night cnn had a total of 2.43 million viewers at 9 p.m hannity had 5.157 wagner on msnbc had 1.8 uh so let's do this let's go back and then we'll take a look at uh if adweek loads i don't know
Starting point is 01:09:35 the website never loads monday to see what their ratings are maybe it won't won't actually allow us to see it we'll see what happens but i'd love to compare there's a lot of ones in the chat a lot of people take a look at this the the the views were double the day before. The views were half for Hannity and for CNN. So I have a feeling that CNN is going to lean back into Trump stuff. But I don't know if ratings is what's going to sell for them. I think that they're using it as impact investment. They're looking at it as a loss. They don't want money out of it. They just want to change people's minds to get them to support the new world order. So just really quickly, when the news came about that missile strike in Poland, I automatically had social media up. But just to be aware of everything, I was like, let me just
Starting point is 01:10:18 turn on the TV, see what they're saying. And I went on Fox. And on Fox, during this key, important, breaking news moment, they had an anchor celebrating his own birthday, talking about his achievements. Right. I went on MSNBC and they were talking about we need retribution. We need to act right now. And then I went on to CNN and they were talking about, can you guess? Donald Trump and January 6th during this key moment. And they weren't breaking the news.
Starting point is 01:10:41 They weren't talking about what was happening in Ukraine and Europe with Russia with this larger war at the g20 they were talking about trump and january 6th uh and i'm like really this this is this is what i'm tuning into this is insane i get more reliable news on twitter than i do of course the corporate media i'm also looking at these layoffs and then i i've been noticing the last week amazon is about to lay off 10 000 employees and that'll lay off 11 11 000 twitter laid off that'll lay it off 11,000. 11,000. Twitter. Lay it off half their staff, which is a slightly different situation. Well, it's a shrinkage of the economy right now because of what we did for the COVID money print scam or scheme, whatever you want to call it.
Starting point is 01:11:16 And now we're starting to see like 10,000 people. What in the heck? That's a lot of... There was a bunch of corporate layoffs. Were you guys following all these corporate layoffs in the last, over the last week? Well, I mean, CNN and Vice. CNN, Vice, Amazon.
Starting point is 01:11:31 I'm trying to get a list. I saw a list of them, Meta. Oh, you know what I really want to know about? This is a little off topic, but Larry and Sergey, the guys that created Google and now Alphabet, where are they? What are they doing?
Starting point is 01:11:42 They are in control of the world's largest media apparatus ever created. And they were supposedly a free speech advocates, but are they just gone full technocrat? Like, where are they? Full technocrat? Probably living on an Island somewhere in the largest giant mansion ever
Starting point is 01:11:55 created with the smart home. And they're just like, whatever. I like to imagine that the rich people built a city underwater called rapture. And they're all experimenting with gene editing technologies. We need you dudes. You guys,
Starting point is 01:12:07 you bought YouTube, man. Yeah, but Ian, they've been down in this underwater city for so long. And the gene splicing has mutated people and the society collapsed. So they're living in the video game. That Bioshock is one of the best games ever.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Yeah, that's a video game. But yeah, it's the general idea is, um, gulch gulch the powerful elites basically leave let the let the system rot because it's gone astray and people want stupid things and then the people who are productive dip out i don't blame them this is what we're
Starting point is 01:12:36 idiocracy we you know we talked about this the other day when we talked about the exodus from cities think about all of the people who fled new york or california because of COVID policies or whatever. That's a brain drain on these places. The most productive people are moving to Texas and Florida, Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, Texas. So they're going to bring all of that enterprise and ingenuity into these other states. The economy of those states is going to skyrocket. It's going to create this new, I don't know, I don't know what you'd call it, but effectively like a business rush. There's going to be new opportunities, new money, new inventions, new tech, and these other blue states are going to turn into wastelands.
Starting point is 01:13:11 They've lost their top talent. Where are you, Michael, and where do you see things going financially as well? Well, obviously there's a massive contraction happening. I was just out for the past month and a half all across the country um all over really um and and and you see it everywhere the the the hurt the the economic hurt whether it's gas prices or people just going to the supermarkets. I don't see us going in a good direction economically because of the system and because of what we're not doing as well as the things that we're doing. I don't have a positive outlook on the economy unless, and I know that that's what we, everybody's trying to do,
Starting point is 01:14:08 is get people into these positions of power that can then create a system and make the changes that we need to make so that the economy does work for everyone. Because I think the way to peace and prosperity and happiness and joy and good things is when people are happy and productive and they're doing things and, you know, pursuing happiness, pursuing the things that they want to pursue. When you have people that are trying to figure out, how am I going to feed my kids? How am I going to keep the lights on?
Starting point is 01:14:40 It's going to get cold in the winter. Wonder how I'm going to heat my house. That really takes away from the things in life individually and collectively that then create a society where we can start to gain those levels in the simulation and get higher up in this instead of everything burning up and breaking down. Let's talk about the cultural stuff. So watching CNN and these other outlets fall apart is good because they're narrative machines. But one of the most important things that's often overlooked by the right, conservatives, libertarians, or whatever, is creating culture that inspires young people.
Starting point is 01:15:17 So right now with you here, we have a lot of people chatting how they're huge fans of the misfits, but you're also here challenging the establishment. I'm curious your thoughts on how do we create an anti-establishment cultural apparatus? And more importantly, how is it that so many anti-establishment musicians
Starting point is 01:15:32 just flipped and went full pro-war, pro-lockdown? That blew my mind. How did that happen? I think that, and it's not just because I'm here, I think that you and your team, everybody here, is the perfect example of what needs to be built for this parallel economy or these parallel structures that will push, that will build what needs to be built.
Starting point is 01:15:58 Not only do you do this sort of thing and have conversations about all of this, but you're creating shows and music and entertainment, all these different things. And intention has a lot to do with that, your energy and where your perspectives and your friends and your colleagues, where they're coming from. They're coming from a good place, and so that resonates. So I think that that's a good place and so that resonates um you know so i think that that's that's that's a good thing when we we see these cnn or msnbc when we see the viewership going down and these companies
Starting point is 01:16:34 starting to shrink in size that's a good thing because we can fill that vacuum or we need to fill that vacuum with these things out that we building. Well, so one of the reasons we here at TimCast.com become a member are focusing on cultural investments like Pop Culture Crisis is a show very similar to this format hosted by Brett Dasavik and Mary Morgan, but it's pop culture because we were like, not everybody likes politics. We want to create a show where we can build influence in other areas. Tales from the Inverted World is, Hunter S. Thompson meets the X-Files.
Starting point is 01:17:07 And of course we're doing music. We've got some skateboarding and rollerblading and scooting plans. We're doing this though mostly because I'm looking at, you know, like some of the bands that I grew up listening to that were basically saying F the Machine are now saying Yay the Machine. Yes. Like how did that happen?
Starting point is 01:17:24 Well, I think a lot of that comes with ignorance i think a lot of that also comes with um people like us and i hate saying that but but people that um it takes a certain person to say maybe i'm wrong like i'm going to take this position about whatever maybe i'm wrong let me go see if I'm wrong. And then spend time finding out if you're wrong and recalibrating your position if it needs to be. Because doing that, you gain knowledge. You're able to articulate your position. You know what you know and why you know it.
Starting point is 01:18:03 And not just, well, you know, because gender queer book told me that. And so therefore that's the way that I feel. But in order to do that, I think that there's certain, you know, morals and integrity that needs to be built into someone. And that goes into a whole conversation about parenting and everything. But, you know, with the musicians in the entertainment industry, a lot of it certainly is ignorance. But also I think that there's some people that perhaps they might –
Starting point is 01:18:32 I know that there's some people out there that know what the truth is and know what is kind of going on. But there's fear and there's selfishness involved in it because they don't want to lose anything. They don't want to lose their contract. They don't want to lose. They don't want people saying bad things about them on their Facebook. Oh, God forbid they lose their Facebook.
Starting point is 01:18:57 What would they do? Oh, my God. And so they just go along to get along, regardless of what their heart is saying. You know, the believers believe, you know, when you have the Holy Spirit inside you and you have that discernment, that at some point if you just keep rejecting that, your heart hardens and then you don't hear that anymore. And so you're able to just go full on to, you know, any port you want. And so there's a lot of that in the entertainment industry. There's a lot of that in the music industry because everybody wants to be popular and
Starting point is 01:19:37 loved and be that person and have the lights on them. That's what it's about. And we'll take any route they need to, to get there and hold onto it. Same thing in politicians. It's no leaders. It's power. You people,
Starting point is 01:19:52 you know, you, you want that power. It's difficult to take a position and find yourself completely alone. Like where to feel alone. And if these bands shout out to the offspring for firing their drummer, because he was unable to get vaccinated due to medical condition. If bands like that stood up and said, sorry, guys, all of our shows are being canceled to all of our fans who spent all this money.
Starting point is 01:20:15 We are unfortunately unable to do the show because the venues won't allow our drummer in. What do you think would happen when five million ticket holders call Ticketmaster all at the same time. Ticketmaster is going to be like, why is our system breaking down? They're going to contact the venues and be like, what are you doing? Why are these shows getting canceled? And they're going to say, well, we told the offspring they weren't allowed to have their drummer in the building. What do you, what, we have a contract. Well, well, the government passed a law. Then everyone's going to start calling up the local governments. What are you doing? We got five million canceled. Contracts are falling apart. If one band just said we will cancel every show, it would cause
Starting point is 01:20:55 a chain reaction that would make it all the way to the point where large lobbyists and investors would be standing at the desk of the mayor of New York saying, I will destroy you politically unless you fix this problem. And they'll be like, okay, okay, we'll rescind this. But no. The whiny, pathetic establishment losers, the offspring, said, how about we just fire our drummer of 17 years? Our families have hung out together.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Screw him. I'd rather make money and fire him. These people are fucking pathetic. Okay, now I'm swearing. You're right, though. I mean, at least that was a pathetic move. I don't want to. Okay, now I'm swearing. You're right, though. I mean, at least that was a pathetic move. I don't want to judge them, their personalities, because I don't know them. But I think it was a weak move, if anything. They have so much power to control culture. I said this. I've said this about a lot of things. I agree with you. I agree. Patreon. They banned this guy, Robert Spencer. He's an Islamic scholar and he's controversial, I guess.
Starting point is 01:21:45 I'm not sure. Not Richard Spencer, Robert Spencer, different guy. And the reason was if we don't, MasterCard made us do it. If we didn't ban him, then we'd have to shut the whole site down. And I'm like, I dare you. MasterCard, I dare you to have the 100 million plus subscriptions on the site disappear and have each and every one of those people calling you on the phone asking you why you did it but no one has the balls to actually be like i'll go for it let's see what happens there were some performers that would refuse uh to play i think did they chapelle do that was he like i'm not performing if you're gonna have a vax mandate
Starting point is 01:22:20 was he one of those guys uh i know chrissy mayor wouldn't wouldn't perform not that she's at dave chapelle's uh fame yet but i think i think crowder and ruben were explicit i'm not sure uh they said they moved venues i think it was ruben specifically it was like we won't do a show here and moved and i'm not sure maybe it wasn't ruben yeah but um look i like joe rogan but even he said here's what we'll do i'll give you a refund if you didn't want if you didn't know that they were doing these rules. And perhaps the argument is that there were contracts that locked Joe in. And if he canceled, it could have caused him major damage or something like that. But it's just like.
Starting point is 01:22:55 But that's, that's the, I understand. I understand that there's a, there's a lot at stake when you take these positions. However, I, I agree with you that if like Offspring or some of these larger acts, I mean, I didn't play the Whiskey A Go-Go for that reason, because they had a vaccine mandate in the city at the time. And I said that I didn't want to play to a segregated audience, nor did I want someone to make a decision, a medical decision like that, to come see me. That's crazy and so i
Starting point is 01:23:25 just said i'm not going to do it when things are different i'll go back and i did i just played there a couple weeks ago um but i wish i had that power to you know like the offspring and some of these other bands with if they just stood up and said we already have so much i know and there's and all of their fans would not all of them but a lot of the fans would get behind them or at least say, well, what do you mean? And then you can have the larger conversation and that would then put that pressure on the record companies, on the management companies, on the lawyers, on all of the system that is the industry that pushes back on these things.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Let me tell you, let's go back to that earlier segment where I was making fun of Trudeau, meeting his hero, and the Elon Musk thing where he almost cried when told about Neil Armstrong. The first album I ever bought was Americana by The Offspring. The first tab book I ever got was Americana by The Offspring. The second was Ixnay on the Ombre by The Offspring, followed by the tab book for Ixnay on the Ombre.
Starting point is 01:24:23 And then, of course, there's Ignition. Then I said, wow, I better go back even further. I got there. Smash was obvious, right? So you're a fan. Yeah, this was the band that got me into music. This was the band that, at the time, all we had was pop. So whatever was on the radio was what it was. I didn't even know the names of these bands. And then my friend said, listen to this, and handed me an americana cd and i learned all the songs and i still have my playlist i love all of their 90s stuff and some of their 2000 stuff and i even like a lot of their later stuff and then what a letdown for them to be at a point where i think dexter sold the catalog for like 30 million or whatever to be so rich you want for nothing and then to look into the eyes
Starting point is 01:25:08 of someone who's been there for you for 17 years yeah their drummer and say get out because cold that's this that's the dirtiest most vile cold human and it's cold man not only that they could have actually just been like, bro, they're not going to let you in the building. I'm sorry, but don't worry. We will get someone to play with us, but we're not going to let you down. You're good. And we'll do studio stuff with you. And that's still, in my opinion, not
Starting point is 01:25:35 the strongest thing they could have done. But I'd still be like, I get it. I get it. You know, the fans want to show. You don't want to let them down. But you're not going to leave someone hanging. Instead, they were just like, later, bro. And the crazy thing about this whole story is that Pete Parada is the drummer. He's awesome.
Starting point is 01:25:49 He's done work with us. His doctor was like, I recommend against this because of the potential medical condition you have. And he goes, okay. And then they're like, get out. It's dirt. And if he would have listened to them,
Starting point is 01:25:59 he could have got seriously hurt or could have died. But they still wanted to force him to do that, to stay in the band. That is cruel. It is absolutely evil. Jim Brewer, I think, did it the right way. Whenever people were discriminating against somebody, whenever a venue had a VAX mandate
Starting point is 01:26:14 and were segregating people based on government compliance, he said, no, I'm not going to be performing here. I'm only going to be performing at places that don't discriminate against bodily autonomy, against individuals deciding their own pathways, their own life. So shouts out to Jim Brewer. He was a real one. We should get him on the show. He does incredible work and I love his work anyway. He's a funny guy. He's a leader, man. That guy's Jim. You are awesome. Yeah. Jim's incredible. Shout out to Jim because as much as we criticize these horrible people, we got to shout out the good people and promote them and all the good stuff that they do as well.
Starting point is 01:26:47 Yeah, Brewer's tremendous. He's got a great heart. He's a family man. He's great and absolutely has taken the right path in all this and obviously has a hilarious perspective on it that he puts in his routines. But you would think certainly that somebody like pete you know who played with these guys came up with these guys there's a brotherhood when you're on tour with somebody and you know you're in a band like that um maybe it was 14 years i don't know was it 14 or 17 maybe it was
Starting point is 01:27:17 14 that's a long that's a long long time not a big difference it's a long time it's not just being on tour it's not just the tour thing and playing in a band. Families and friends. It's your whole life. It's your whole frigging world. And then all of a sudden, it's just, well, see you later, dude. Dude, you got to look up Pete Parada on the internet. The face, the picture of his face.
Starting point is 01:27:40 He's like, it's awesome looking. He's hitting it so hard. He's on the drums. I'm trying to figure out when he joined the offspring uh officially joined face to face in 98 and then offspring in 2007 so that'd be about 14 years ago 15 years ago the guy's amazing 2007 yeah 15 okay i was wrong yeah i was thinking like wait a minute did i give him extra years maybe it was 14 before that is with saves the day i just i couldn't i couldn't believe that story when i heard it uh because it because like my attitude is if something happened like that and my response was okay well we're gonna keep you
Starting point is 01:28:14 know moving forward i wouldn't terminate like if i had somebody was working for me for six months i wouldn't fire him i'd be like you're cool dude we'll figure it out yeah that's crazy and that's a scary thing the people that you think have your back in the past couple of years at least in my experience and i i've lost people in my life that walked away from me that i've known for decades you know 20 years people that i was very very close to that again because of the pressure because of well i might lose my facebook and because you you know, I don't know, you've gone crazy or, you know, people that know people that fell for the delusion that believe the delusion and the lies, knowing me, like knowing who I am and knowing my heart, but then saying, yeah, no, well, we're going to go with this whole thing. And we're going to, that's scary. That's like when you hear stories about, you know, when the Nazis rolled into some of these, the different cities where just overnight, you know, the pogroms, these people, they went to school together.
Starting point is 01:29:24 They were family, and then they're dragging each other into the streets and they're ripping their clothes off and they're beating them. That's where we're at. It's almost like we're practicing for it. And it's just, we're doing it online. Because essentially you're assassinating people.
Starting point is 01:29:40 You're killing them. You're ripping their whole world away. Everything is gone. All the people that you love, your business, these things that you've worked gone gone and and and we're doing that in in in that synthetic world that's that's that's built and it's not very far from from reality the physical part of this let me let me let me just uh let's multiply the concerns here, the fears here. We used to have brick and mortar stores. We still do, sort of.
Starting point is 01:30:10 You drive down any main street in old cities, what do you see? Most of the stores are closed. Yeah, it's true. First there was Walmart. Now there's Amazon. It's all online. So people start building their businesses on Twitter, Facebook, and Google. I knew a guy who would sell things on his web store, and all of his traffic came from Google.
Starting point is 01:30:28 People would search for something, and he would be in the top five. Google changed their algorithm one day. His search dropped to the second page. His business evaporated. There's no second page. Now here's where it gets crazy. Many people are building businesses on Twitter, Facebook, and Google, selling things, promoting things, being commentators. Oops, you got banned.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Your business is erased. Imagine this. When we live in Mark Zuckerberg's metaverse fake reality that he desperately wants us to live in, and you create a store with a virtual environment that sells T-shirts and people can walk in and they can buy stuff and they can chat, and then Mark Zuckerberg walks in with a smile on his face and says, I'm deleting your store. And then you're gone. Everything you worked for ceases to exist like that. You have a brick and mortar store. It's a lot harder to do. You go into the metaverse with digital business.
Starting point is 01:31:15 They can ban you outright. We launch a store. We sell t-shirts. We got a t-shirt pin. You can buy it if you want. The company that hosts it could just erase that store instantly. And then we're not selling any products.
Starting point is 01:31:25 It is a nightmarish potential future unless we stay conscious of what's happening and fight for rights for rules. Where this crypto story comes in, right? We see the dollar coming apart, our economy coming apart. We see this, what's happening with,
Starting point is 01:31:41 with, with, uh, FDX. Um, and, and, and now that there's going to be the big push for the the cryptocurrency regulations and everything they got to get their hands in that and cash isn't
Starting point is 01:31:52 going to work we need these regulations and we're going to attach that to the social credit score and we're going to take away everything that's in this physical all the brick and mortar gone so that then that ultimate control you say something that is not part of the narrative you say something that goes again you're whoa you're gone whoa sorry what are you what are you gonna do two things you know how to grow corn no no don't worry about it you will own nothing and you will be happy you will live in the pod and you will eat the bugs you will eat z bugs my favorite meme right now. Okay, well, I shouldn't say that. But a meme I really like is the chicken that says,
Starting point is 01:32:28 I will live in the pod, I will eat the bugs, and I will give you eggs. That's a good one. Oh, my gosh. Chickens are great. You're talking about female human eggs? Are they going to be harvesting people's eggs to reproduce in a laboratory? Yeah, right now you are. But I wonder if the metaphor extends to the next 70 years.
Starting point is 01:32:43 Those goofy little things run around eating bugs living in their little pod and then we you know kim goes out there and she collects all their little butt bounties crack them up and have breakfast sprinkle a little black pepper on them can't be beat yeah i've raised chickens too yeah how many chickens you got well we just had a weasel attack so we're down yeah i raised ducks too and weasel got in there big time so i i lost upwards of nine ducks and three chickens. So my flock is down. What percent of your flock was that?
Starting point is 01:33:10 About 30%. One weasel. It was actually two. My wife saw two. A team of weasels. Yeah, a team of weasels. They were working together. Wow.
Starting point is 01:33:20 Some kind of auto defense turret that can identify what a chicken looks like using an AI and it pans past the chickens and sees the weasel and it's crazy. It's crazy. Airsoft. It gets so frustrating
Starting point is 01:33:33 sometimes. You just, not you, but you know me, I just say, let's just burn it all down. I just want to burn the whole barn down.
Starting point is 01:33:41 It's incredible. Such a little creature can cause so much damage yeah we had we had a we had a snake get in a couple times it was eating eggs but the chickens are mostly fine the the bigger issue we had is that um roberto jr who is uh you know the son of roberto obviously and he's in charge his mom died she She had ovarian cancer. Oh yeah. Yeah. Nothing we could do about it. Just didn't know that she's just had cancer. We didn't see any signs.
Starting point is 01:34:08 She died. Then we got into the, the vet got a check and they were like, there's nothing could have done. It just happens. Yeah. Yeah. I think you're,
Starting point is 01:34:15 you're burnt. How are you saying? Sometimes you get so frustrated that you want to burn the barn down. A lot of people are feeling that like sociologically, like they're so frustrated with the system and a lack of hope that they say, burn it all down. But like, then you, you get a chance chance hopefully you get a chance to remember how awesome it is to be alive and this experience of love and pleasure and like learning and protecting people
Starting point is 01:34:34 other life and you're reminded that it's worth keeping around uh yeah that's a that's a good that's a good note ian it's a good note we're gonna go to super chats if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends become a member at timcast.com we're gonna have a members only show coming up for you about 11 p.m should be a whole lot of fun and uh let's uh let's see what you guys got kenneth hart says no way michael graves man it was so cool exchanging emails during bush's re-election campaign what changed how did you evolve from there um you know i'll be honest with you i started to work uh more and get involved in the in the the military sphere of things and talking to soldiers and really becoming aware of what was happening with the war. And September 11th, after what happened with September 11th
Starting point is 01:35:33 and great work like Luke Radowski had done and learning what was happening with 9-11 really started to wake me up. I fell asleep when those towers came down, and I was living close enough to where I could see the smoke in the sky to New York City, and I immediately became entrenched in the propaganda and got angry and got mad and forgot a lot of the stuff that, you know. You've been following Luke for a long time?
Starting point is 01:36:04 I know Luke yeah of course sure he's a hero yeah oh gee first YouTube channel to be demonetized I'm pretty sure Bill Altman was telling me one time he was in like New York and at some rally and he was like dude Luke was on a statue like
Starting point is 01:36:19 we are going to the building right 9-11 was an inside job. You know, you would always see, you know... Well, we had 10,000 people, including family members, rescue workers, survivors of 9-11, asking for some serious questions to be answered. And we were all over New York City without a permit, marching. Not an easy thing to do during those times, man.
Starting point is 01:36:41 No, no, there was agent provocateurs, there was people trying to, of course, make us seem like we were crazy or spread disinformation and bad messaging. There's a lot of Cass Sunstein types, but those days we were in the streets. The internet wasn't as prominent. People didn't have cell phones
Starting point is 01:36:57 that you could interact with. They had flip phones. So during those days, we had to do everything in the streets. We were bullhorning. We were giving out leaflets. We were giving out leaflets. We were giving out DVDs. We've been doing that for such a long time. And the streets is where it was at. We're going to read some more.
Starting point is 01:37:11 We got Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, you know I'm game. I learned lots from going out earlier this year. I'll knock on doors and harvest the F out of ballots. Not for Republicans, for MAGA, for America. Folks, we got two years. We can still win. That's right. Make sure you check.
Starting point is 01:37:30 In, I think it's 26 states, there's regulations on how many you can ballot harvest and if you can. Some states, it's like you can only bring in ballots if they're your family members. There's many states where there's just no regulation at all. So people are literally just going door to door, like, I'll take it from you, and they'll just take the ballots and go drop them off. Is it actually called ballot harvesting officially? Or do they call it ballot collection? Because harvesting sounds dirty. I mean, it's whatever you want to describe it as.
Starting point is 01:37:51 Okay. Designated, what is it called? In a lot of states, they have a designated agent or something it's called, where you sign saying this person can take my ballot from me. It really sounds like the Democratic ground game, right? That sounds like a ground game sort of thing and always hear a lot about how uh you know you have to get into the the republican you know frank cavanaugh uh bass player filter who's a good friend of mine is always talking about that about you know getting in at the at some sort of level where that sort of ballot harvesting thing um could be implemented you know waffle sensei says really disappointed daily wire is losing the plot how so i saw that
Starting point is 01:38:35 super chat i didn't understand though yeah i don't know are they like anti-trump or something is that what it is probably i'm gonna look at their website now i think candace said she's gonna be interviewing him again at some point or wants to. Donald. Okay, what do we have? Jay says, did you guys hear that the New York lawyers who threw the Molotov at the cop car got disbarred during the not peaceful George Floyd protests? I didn't hear that. I did hear that some woman got sentenced to six years.
Starting point is 01:39:00 And also, in the video I did talking about how they're going after Trump for the 14th with the 14th Amendment. I pointed out how Joe Biden basically his campaign assisted the 529 insurrection. And there was a story and it's absolutely hilarious. I think it was NBC that said something like a temporary barricades removed and damaged to church after peaceful protest becomes destructive. I was like wait what peaceful protest right depends on who's doing it is how yeah how it's characterized right dan brockman says my uh michael famous monsters and american psycho were huge influences for my band screaming torso from 06 to 08. Please look us up. SoundCloud, our album is called There Will Be Torso.
Starting point is 01:39:47 Thank you, Michael. Screaming Torso. I love it. All right. Oh, yeah, man, dude. We'd go skating, and they'd be blasting your stuff. Like, my friends would just put it on,
Starting point is 01:39:56 and we'd listen to that and a bunch of other punk rock stuff as we went to go skate at the local parks and stuff like that. How did it work? Misfits had been around before you joined the band? Yeah, Misfits were formed 1977, Lodi, New Jersey,
Starting point is 01:40:08 by Glenn Danzig, Jerry Only. They broke up in 81, I think, something like that. And then they really gained popularity from bands like Metallica, Cliff Burton. The bass player always had the skull on, like Rob Zombie. And so when I got into the band, it was, there was a lot more legend behind the band than anything else.
Starting point is 01:40:33 They only had really only had played a handful of shows. And, and so everything was sort of word of mouth. Yeah. Yeah. So I got in the band in 1995. Start writing fresh, fresh stuff when you hit, or did you play a lot of the old catalog? When we first went out,
Starting point is 01:40:48 we did a tour called the Resurrection Tour, and we did like every song they ever wrote. You know, it was incredible. It was like 30, 40 songs, I think, a night. Back to back, back to back. One, two, three, go! And then we would go. Crypto.
Starting point is 01:41:03 Crypto Rath says, Michael, your music saved my life, brother. You are one of the greatest poets of our time. New album soon. Wow, bless you. Thank you very much. Again, I'll take that over fame and celebrity or nice fancy cars and everything.
Starting point is 01:41:19 I'm so blessed that, like I said, I just came back from this tour in the United States, an acoustic tour. And I hear that all the time. I hear these profound stories about people's lives and the things that they've gone through and how they've overcome or what they're currently going through. And for them to then say that my music or something that I've created has affected them or it's bound to them in some sort of way is just is is that's treasure in heaven that's not treasure down here it's an amazing amazing thing and it it really helps propel me uh forward and right on man so i don't just hide in the woods and never
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Starting point is 01:42:14 That is the Seth Weathers there. Seth Weathers. Yeah, he was on the show. Love you, Seth. We got to get some of that. We should order some of that. Yeah. The Let's Go Brandon Wrap
Starting point is 01:42:21 and then I can send out presents to my family members and see who gets triggered. What was the website again? Brandonrap.com, I think. Brandonrap.com. I'm going to do the hammer thing. I think at officialmichaelgraves.com,
Starting point is 01:42:32 I'm going to sell hammers. Pelosi hammers. We made jokes about banning hammers and hammers with tactical forward grips and sights on them and stuff like that. People start making memes. All right, let's see. Potatoes for Seamus says cast irl oh hey what's up i could see that yeah yeah all right grim pickens says all right hear me out what if underwear man is corn pop he'd be too young
Starting point is 01:43:02 david to pap too young to be corn pop yeah what if paul pelosi is corn pop now or now it's making sense that's actually a conspiracy theory that the pap guy has this for in in my mind has this weird resemblance or something that's that's similarly strange strangely similar to the to the ftx crypto guy i don't know why though those ftx dudes were doing a lot of drugs. He would, I've read it, but he would encourage his employees to try different drugs.
Starting point is 01:43:29 Yeah, maybe it's something in the eyes like that, that, you know, they have the crazy eyes, something. Pluto the ninth says, Mr.
Starting point is 01:43:35 Graves, you're an incredible singer. Started listening as a teen and had American psycho on repeat for years. My four year old son loves it too. Can you say giant spiders prepare to take over for abram giant spider yeah giant spiders prepare to take over run on david toronto says why are there no pictures of paul pelosi after the attack if they tried to blame it on a right winger wouldn't they want people to see he was hurt
Starting point is 01:44:01 yeah or they can just say whatever they want people believe it yeah and charging that dude with attempted murder yeah he played not he's pleading not guilty all right what is this uh we got ryan philpot says just saw the misfits in dallas with danzig jerry only basis is my cousin no matter who was the singer misfits rock i'm excited to see graves is uh so so danzig rejoined or what yeah those guys buried the hatchet for um and and are have been doing shows for for a couple years now it's like the called the original misfits so they got you got glenn jerry and doyle um i don't know who they have drumming they they had dave lombardo from slayer drum and form for a while do they play your songs too no no no they they don't even mention me it's kind of you know i'm sort of memory hold yeah it's it's the it's old stuff i think now they're doing like
Starting point is 01:44:55 walk among us and i think that yeah yeah do you retain the rights to the stuff you wrote while you were with the band uh yeah i go out i play it and I'm going to South America in about a week and a half, and I do famous monsters. I do American Psycho famous monsters back to back. Cool. So I still wave the flag. People love the music.
Starting point is 01:45:15 But those guys, getting me back in the, can you imagine if, you know, I'm kind of under the radar right now with what I'm doing. For them to get me back in the in the can you imagine if if you know i'm kind of under under the radar right now with with what i'm doing for them to to get me back in the band and do like american psycho famous monsters with those guys i it wouldn't work because of all the the bs that would come with it balian says when even marjorie taylor green voted for mccarthy my positivity and republicans doing anything meaningful fell to zero i get it though m MTG wants to be on committees. She wants to be able to actually get something done. And so
Starting point is 01:45:50 they're probably saying, look, don't go up against the RNC. Give them what they want, they'll give you something back. I kind of just think the GOP needed to go in and be like, nah. But we'll see if Marjorie can get things done. Look, I trust Marjorie Taylor Greene. So that one threw me a little bit. I was like, really, man? Is it just like a big group of like a fraternity, sorority type thing where they all know each other
Starting point is 01:46:18 and it's all kind of understood like, Mitch, you got this. We're not going to turn our back on you. No, it's probably more like the people who have been in the party the longest and have been in office longest have more control over over funding and who gets money and how it gets spent so they basically say i'm going to be party leadership vote for me otherwise i cut your funding and you don't get re-elected and we go up against you look at what we did to
Starting point is 01:46:37 these candidates and these candidates and then they're like okay okay so someone just needs to be like i'll take two years i guess the problem is everybody really, really wants to be in office. They want to get reelected. Maybe term limits would be good. I don't know. If it were me, I'd be like, dude, you don't want to play a game of chicken with me because I'll go nuts. Like if I'm going to be here for two years, it's going to be a really bad two years for you. So how about we make it four years, but we kind of compromise there.
Starting point is 01:47:00 That sort of thing is very rare in people, in men, and in women. I mean, you see what's happened the past two years. Look at January 6th. All the pressure that came down on people, whether it was Proud Boys or anybody else, everyone just scattered. Everyone just scattered because of the downward pressure and because of the fear. It really takes a certain someone to stand on their two feet and be firm in their position and say, no, this is the right thing. I'm doing this because of integrity, because of morals and my alignment, and I don't care what you take from me. That's the whole give me liberty or give me death. People don't understand that. Give me liberty or give me death.
Starting point is 01:47:50 Take everything from me if you want, because it's not about me. I mean, to a certain point, it's about individualism, but it's about the people that came before us and what they did and what they built and sacrificed, and it's for the people that are going to come after us. My children, your children, everybody's children. That's true.
Starting point is 01:48:09 I don't feel like that's my motivation necessarily, maybe a little bit. Mine's more like I'm more willing to sacrifice than you are. You know, so if somebody wants to get involved in a game of chicken, that's the game. The cars are speeding at each other. Who's got more to lose? Who's got less to lose? And who's going to bow out first? I remember I learned this important lesson from my dad when he was driving his Wrangler,
Starting point is 01:48:33 which was a giant hunk of steel with rust holes in it. And some luxury sedan was trying to basically cut him off and push him out of a zipper. And he started laughing. And he was just like, this guy's not going to touch me. And then sure enough, the guy slammed the brakes on and we kept going. And he was like, you think the guy in that expensive car is going to risk damage to it? I'm in a giant bucket full of metal. I don't care if someone hits it. And I'm like, that's a funny way to look at things. So when I see somebody come at me and I'm just like, bro, you got to understand how leverage works. If, if, you know, right now we've got 31 members,
Starting point is 01:49:10 I think of the house freedom caucus who are challenging McCarthy and good for them. But we need more people who are going to be like, if I'm here for two years, I'm here for two years. You better work with me or you're going to regret it. They might be able to come out and be like, we're going to campaign against you. We're going to work against you. We're going to ship you committees. And I'm going to be like, then I'm going to make sure the next two years are worse off for you for it. Or we can just say truce. Let's get through this one and make it work. You know what I would do if I got into Congress? First thing is I would get 432 headshots. Is that how many people are in the house? 432.
Starting point is 01:49:38 And I'd put them on my wall and I would memorize everyone's name and face. This is what I did in theater school. When the new class would come in, I was like a sophomore, all the freshmen, I would stare at their headshots and memorize all their names. And it created a community. So I knew everybody when they would walk in. I don't know. I kind of feel like they maybe were just scared of you.
Starting point is 01:49:56 Like I'm imagining walking into a school and like some dude I know walking up being like, hey, Tim, I'd be like, uh. No, they were glad because they were all nervous and they were new. And like you can be there for people and help people find comfort in these crazy high stress situations. And I think just being there for them, the people in Congress, they need that right now. They need emotional support in addition to awesome policies like pulling carbon dioxide out of the air and turning it into graphene.
Starting point is 01:50:20 Let's read some more. Christopher Hunter says, yo, Michael, great to see you on. I'd love to bring you back to Waco again. It's been too long. Much love to Tim Kass and crew. Keep it weird, Ian. I went to Waco not that long ago. Went and checked out the Branch Davidian compound
Starting point is 01:50:34 and got to see all the stuff there. Me too. Yeah, tremendous. I was just up in Waco. I did a private show. Yeah, for sure. I stopped by the Branch Davidian compound there where they have that church. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It by the Branch Davidian compound there where they have the they have that church.
Starting point is 01:50:45 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy to read all that stuff. Things the U.S. government is willing to do and for what reason? I have no idea. Mark Jones says FTX funded the Democrats. Someone needs to investigate and report. And how much do you want to bet the Republicans don't? Because they were also getting investments from FTX? Well, a little bit. Reportedly. Not as much as the Democrats, but they got a lot of money as well.
Starting point is 01:51:12 They should give back that money. The politicians who got the money from FTX right now should give it back to the people who had their money stolen from them immediately. But it's not the politicians, it's the PACs. Yeah. The politicians are legally restricted on how much money they can receive from an individual. So what happens, you get these super PACs that just take in 200 400 million dollars and and it gets a little seedy because it wasn't just ftx there's a company called alameda research it was a sister company and it was being ceo'd by sam bankman freed's girlfriend and it was they were
Starting point is 01:51:38 what it looks like is that ftx was funneling money to almeda almeda was doing the investment for them donkey paradise says timothy with all due, you know better than to give a pass on OnlyFans and the like. Just ask yourself, the whole crew, in fact, just ask each other, how would I feel if my daughter were doing this? My son supporting this horrifying much an emotional con job evil. I get it. The challenge is what I want my family on OnlyFans? Absolutely not. Do I want
Starting point is 01:52:07 to deprive the right of consenting adults to exchange in goods? No, I don't. But that's the difference between libertarian and conservative. Conservatives, of course, have no problem saying, like, dude, we are not going to allow a society where women stop working as police officers and nurses so that they can become porn stars for subscription fees and libertarians are kind of like as long as you're not infringing on the rights of others consenting adults can agree to do what they want i don't know what you guys think about only as long as there is informed consent i think people don't know about the long-term kind of negative consequences especially when it comes to online pornography there's also another argument to make here that uh men wouldn't have
Starting point is 01:52:45 access to women if it wasn't for that, that men's depression would go down because of that. There's a lot of different arguments to make here, but it's a very complicated one since this is such a new phenomenon that is taking society by storm, and it's really hard to quantify as of right now. But overall, I don't think enough people know about the dangers of pornography. Yeah, I'm kind of with you about consent. I think it's a big part of this. Do you know what you're getting into? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:53:09 Here's the challenge. This is based on a story I did on Twitch. There are groomers who are going into the channels of young people and then offering them donations and money and subs in exchange for certain activities that grooms them into doing worse and worse things young young people young people so the study found some of these are even prepubescent children but they're typically like young teenage girls yeah and so they'll say hey do a handstand hey take your socks off show me your feet and they increment and get it crazier and crazier and what they're doing is they're grooming kids into becoming OnlyFan porn stars. That's a major problem.
Starting point is 01:53:50 It's one thing if some adult is like, hey, I want to send some pics and get paid for it. And it's like, well, consenting adults. It's another thing when you have people actively grooming children for these things and it causes social degradation. Yeah, and then we're going to look in the metaverse and OnlyFans can easily morph into like your digital avatars having sex with their digital avatar for money and is the kid even like 18 yet well a lot of this boils down to the destruction of the family unit which is which is one of the key factors when it comes to the larger takeover of society yeah I was sorry go ahead that was all yeah I was I I have three children and I have a 13 year old and a 10 year old both have access to the internet and I know certainly what they're doing and what they're looking at. So again, it does.
Starting point is 01:54:30 It comes down to the degradation of the family and the parents. Where are the parents? That's where I get conservative. I kind of know the answer to that, I'm saying. I actually find myself to be a little obsessively authoritarian about family life. I try not to be. But I used to be lax a days ago and do whatever you want to do go do it
Starting point is 01:54:49 but then she starts you know it's stripping and like where do you say no like where do you draw the line in a relationship like how informed consent we don't have any of that yeah all right yardbird says unpopular opinion and i don't care michael graves misfits is way better than glenn danzig misfits i bought american psycho the day it it dropped, and I still jam to it this day. Thank you. There you go. Bruce Sobolvaro says, if you pre-order Earth Simulacra 2, you get pre-dementia Joe Biden for the corruption DLC and extra campaign. I need to get pre-dementia Joe Biden.
Starting point is 01:55:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a limited edition. It's rare. He has that plagiarism's rare he has that plagiarism ability plagiarism ability he can plagiarize foreign diplomats can we make a game like that that'd be hilarious be a great car game is i wonder if they can add you know into like civilization someone can make an expansion uh a mod yeah with a bunch of like modern world leaders um oh you know what just let's be real tremendous think about how amazing it would be if you could play civilization and play as trump or biden or obama or hillary that'd be hot like trying to negotiate with trump and civilization would
Starting point is 01:55:55 just be hilarious it'd be cool to play as corporations you're gonna give me all your uranium or we're going to war it's like i would prefer to avoid that i'm going to nuke you you can see and you can slap trudeau oh yeah i mean i wonder if they they probably had it sounds like a reasonable thing they'd actually have maybe there's uh no they have to be able to do that maybe there's like a likeness issue or something or copyright i don't know okay brie sullivan says luke you've said that we have to hold our politicians' feet to the fire, short of an actual fire pit. How do we actually do that? Don't support them unless they actually are doing the right things.
Starting point is 01:56:34 I think anyone, I think we also have to culturally, you know, make fun of people that worship politicians and then make them their whole entire personalities. I think people need to be ostracized for saying, the politician is going to solve everything in my life. I think culturally that's important. I think also understanding our power and building communities and networks where we aren't dependent on government is also another way to do that. And I think being open to criticizing your own side and all politicians is another key step that's important towards not just going along with the cult of personality waffle sensei says do you think trump could beat putin in a fist fight putin is like a trained assassin i know but he's so tiny and he acts afraid of trump oh putin would rip him up in a
Starting point is 01:57:21 fight yeah he's a because he's because i think he's a ball of muscle. I think he's jujitsu. I think he's a black belt. In a fist fight? Okay, fair point. If grappling's out of the question and we're boxing, I mean, that's a good question. Because Trump's got height and reach and mass, but they're both really old.
Starting point is 01:57:40 They're so old. Money's on the train fighter. Yes, I agree. If it was a straight up fight, Putin no doubt, because he's on the train fighter. No. Yes, I agree. If it was a straight up fight, Putin, no doubt, because he's got the grapple techniques. Yeah. Even if Trump got the jump on him with like a chair, I think Putin would still take one and then be like, oh. It looks like Putin might be quicker than him, too. He's just got to get on the inside.
Starting point is 01:57:58 Yeah. Work the inside. Yeah, if he gets close. Get in close. You get in close. Trump's bigger, though. Size matters. But like Tyson, you know, Tyson would get in there low.
Starting point is 01:58:07 Trump could sit on him. Trump would be like the Hulk or the Blob in X-Men. And he'd like walk up and Putin would like hit him in the chest and Trump would just jiggle and go. They'd be like, oh, no. You have to use special techniques on this guy. I don't know, though. I remember when that guy tried. It'd be a good tried yeah what if this
Starting point is 01:58:26 what if instead of war we had world leaders fight each other absolutely freaking great yeah and then you basically just like
Starting point is 01:58:32 you want a world leader who's ripped and a well trained fighter and who's got experience in combat and then land dispute what are we disputing
Starting point is 01:58:40 this territory how far in okay here's the arena Joe Rogan's commentating we get dana white to run the whole thing they used to do it out of necessity rocky two two opposing armies would come up and rather than kill each other they'd be like send their best warrior to the front they duel whoever won would win the battle then they wouldn't kill each other and they'd be like okay
Starting point is 01:58:58 you've made your point but when it but now then they invented ballistics and now they're like any any monkey can blast somebody. Yeah. I'm in the middle of some important administrative work. Yes. All right. Back to where we were. We'll grab a couple more super chats. Lillian May Briggs says McCarthy is the same as Ryan.
Starting point is 01:59:21 Yep. Yeah. There you go. Juice Cyber Newtype says, the media will get revived. Willing to bet certain investors will make sure they can while Trump runs. Perhaps, perhaps.
Starting point is 01:59:34 But I don't know. I mean, what's, Twitter? I'm also, here's what I'm worried about. Meta is laying people off and on the downturn.
Starting point is 01:59:42 Twitter is laying people off and people are questioning, you know, what's going on, is it going to last? TikTokok is expanding yeah interesting but even even democrats are now talking about banning tiktok so they better yeah yeah that's just funneling all your data to china and then messing with your kids it's a mind control device 100 literally yeah all right dirt nap 66 says tim biden is as a ghoul in Fallout. I mean, it wouldn't take but a slight skin tone change. Agreed.
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Starting point is 02:02:25 the one where Ian jams stuff up really great jams stuff up his ass was also very funny yeah that's last week's episode no joke and you should definitely
Starting point is 02:02:33 check that out as well that was my idea yeah you think we're joking that's actually what he yeah I'm the mind genius behind that
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