Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #662 Elon Musk REFUSES To Reinstate Alex Jones While Unbanning Others w/Aydin Paladin

Episode Date: November 19, 2022

Tim, Luke, Hannah-Claire, & Serge join Aydin Paladin to discuss Elon Musk conducting a twitter poll on whether or not to reinstate Trump, Elon refusing to reinstate Alex Jones on Twitter, Democrats de...manding an investigation into Elon Musk over Twitter, Antifa lawyer crying in court after receiving a 15 year sentence for attack on police van, food rationing beginning in the UK, and the University of California hosting a black only screening of Black Panther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So Elon Musk just put up a Twitter poll. Reinstate former President Trump? Of course, I clicked yes. And right now there's over a half a million, 550,000 votes about. 63% say yes. That's cool. Elon Musk also reinstated the Babylon Bee, Jordan Peterson, and Kathy Griffin. But he has outright refused to reinstate Alex Jones, even going so far as to respond to Viva Frye saying too bad.
Starting point is 00:00:32 And that's actually fairly brutal because I can understand, you know, Alex Jones has issued a response already saying don't blame Elon. You know, he's the most controversial guy in the world. No, no, no. I get that. And I would agree. But I don't understand why Elon is taking it upon himself to kind of rub in that he doesn't actually believe in free speech. And he's kind of just, you know, spitting on us in that regard. But look, I'll take a win. I'll take a win, right? Unbanning these people, if he brings back Trump, these are all really, really good things. But let's not pretend like the guy actually cares about free speech. Now, to be fair, I get it.
Starting point is 00:01:06 He probably can't reinstate Alex Jones without it's like it would be like dropping a bomb on the platform. But again, I'll stress it. He could have just ignored the question or he could have said something like we have to have a review process. He could have been honest and said something like, you know, Alex Jones is very controversial, controversial. So we're going to have to have a deep look at that. And it may not be possible or something like that. But instead, it's just too bad. Okay, well, then too bad. Why should I advocate for anyone spending money on Twitter if we are not going to actually have free speech? Viva Fry actually pointed out, if Elon does not reinstate him, then do not expect anything
Starting point is 00:01:39 different than what we saw with Vijay Gowdy and Parag Agrawal. And he says, too bad. All right, let's talk about it. Now the Democrats want an FTC investigation. So the whole thing is just, it's insane. I gotta, I gotta say, I don't understand why Twitter has garnered this much attention, except for the fact that's probably used by intelligence agencies to manipulate the American public. Head over to timcast.com, become a member to help support our work directly. We're working on a bunch of cultural endeavors. We may be working on a movie. It seems like we will be working on a movie production. And we don't want everything to be overtly political, but we are growing as fast as we can.
Starting point is 00:02:16 I know I've said before that we want to be similar to The Daily Wire in that regard. We want to produce cultural shows, music, and things like that. But we are a fraction of the size of The Daily Wire. So all we can do is just work slowly and make our way up. Before we get started, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Aiden Paladin. Hey, great to be here. Who are you? Oh, hi, I'm Aiden Paladin. I mostly discuss social science and the intersection of social science and politics here on YouTube. I was a PhD student, but I decided I liked doing this better.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Yeah, it's fun. Thanks for having me. And I hit you up because you were posting about, I mean, this is going to sound cliche and tribal, but a series of studies showing that many on the left prefer are driven by envy hatred violence greed etc yeah i was actually really shocked because we you hear that kind of rhetoric all the time on the right and from the left towards the right that oh the other side of course you know dichotomistic uh partisanship oh the other people they must just be evil but what i found when i looked into the data was more or less that i what evil, I guess you can be defined by whoever is defining evil.
Starting point is 00:03:29 But the greed and the anger and the hatred and more than anything, the envy. It's just they're so consistently envious. Did even shock me. Yeah, I kind of feel like everybody listening is like, yeah, I know. Yeah. Well, pretty much all of social science is no duh. And it is all no duh, but you need to go find the data
Starting point is 00:03:49 and actually be able to illustrate it with science. We'll talk about it, especially as it pertains to censorship. We also have Hannah Clare Brimelow. Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow. I'm a writer for timcast.com. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Well, all right. And Luke's here. I want to thank everyone in the comment section for the Luquisha comments. They mean a lot to me. I appreciate them very much. And even though Elon Musk could censor your speech, he cannot censor shirts on thebestpoliticalshirts.com. That's why I created the website. Today, I'm wearing a shirt about the crazy immune system deniers out there who are very dangerous to your health.
Starting point is 00:04:22 And if you want to warn everyone in the general public, you could get the shirt on, again, thebestpoliticalshirts.com or bidenfederman.com, whichever one you choose. And I'm Serge Arcama, as always, guys. All right, ladies and gentlemen, here's the big story. Elon Musk tweeted, reinstate former President Trump. Yes. No. Well, as you can see, I voted yes, of course.
Starting point is 00:04:41 And there's just about 800,000 votes in, what are we looking at, like 20 minutes? Just shy of 20 minutes. 62% say yes, 38% say no. And I find it kind of silly. Like, why is a former president, whether he's allowed to speak in the public town square, being brought up to just like a poll from the ceo is kind of a weird thing it seems very strange especially given this is supposed to be how twitter operates going forward like do we get to vote on everyone from now on i would probably use twitter if this was the democratic process well unfortunately then you can have very likely
Starting point is 00:05:21 to invoke mob rule kind of stuff mob rule consensus of people can then just get together. And it's just the way that anything works in terms of banning people from other sites. You get a group of people together, you incite them into saying, oh, we need to mass report, demand that Twitter remove this person, or vice versa, demand that they reinstate somebody. So democratizing Twitter can be potentially harmful in its own way. Who the hell would have thought that the former president of the United States, who's running to be the next president of the United States,
Starting point is 00:05:50 is having his future of his speech being determined by a freaking Twitter poll? That absolutely makes no sense at all. It's absolutely ridiculous. And it really shows you how Elon Musk is really failing here. He's not doing a good job. He should make a strong decision. He should make a decision that is based on principles, not on mob rule. And that's essentially what he's depending on here, which is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:06:15 I think Elon is this strange character because we, especially conservatives, want to rally around him. He says interesting things, things that we feel like are right. But also, he doesn't operate 100% like are right but also he doesn't operate 100 by conservative values and he doesn't hide it right like tesla is the from what i understand the only car company that operates without a state-owned partner in china why is that why is he permitted that right it's just one of these things you you mean like he operates in china and he's not being controlled by the state or what yeah so it sounded like you're saying all car companies in the u.s work with china
Starting point is 00:06:49 so all car companies if you want to manufacture in china again i'm not an expert but this is what i've been reading about it um they have a partner to help them with their distribution in the manufacturing china tesla is the only car company that operates without this kind of partnership the car companies in china are owned by the chinese car company that operates without this kind of partnership. The car companies in China are owned by the Chinese government. Why is Tesla allowed to do this? I think Elon Musk is a really interesting character, but I am not surprised that he's not always consistent, right? We like free speech, but also we have a poll for the president. Like, that seems strange. Yeah, I think he saw that he could make money from this. I think that's really
Starting point is 00:07:24 it. I think he likes the Babylon Bee. I think he saw that he could make money from this. I think that's really it. I think he likes the Babylon Bee. I think he saw an opportunity to make money because it seems clear when you're active on Twitter that the majority of people want jokes, want to have fun, but you can't. And what was happening is slowly over time, Twitter was being compressed into a really boring and awful space. And it was resulting in, I mean, here's what I think. Elon's like, why are there so many competitors to Twitter emerging? Why is Twitter losing so many customers? And it's because they're censoring everybody.
Starting point is 00:07:51 He probably thought, you know what, I'll buy it, uncensor some of the people, and then we'll make it more valuable, and then we'll turn it public again. That's what he said he was gonna do. So of course, he's doing a poll to reinstate Trump. Why? Because he wants to see what people on Twitter actually think.
Starting point is 00:08:07 And it's kind of smart. We're up to 932,000 votes. 62% say yes. And that's probably where it's going to be. Because if he's like the overwhelming majority of people want him on the platform, then I'm going to service the customers. Still weak. Absolutely weak. I don't know what's going on with the audio.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Is the audio okay? Or is it fine? What what's going on i feel like it's fine i don't know if it's anything it's exactly the same as well as when i started so i don't know yeah but okay but anyway it's still weak it's still extremely disappointing you you make a decision if you're going to be standing by free speech that means standing by that decision and nothing else again i don't know do we have the audio fixed yeah okay you you can keep talking. I'm distracted with all of the craziness over here. Yeah, all that's muted. Everything's fine.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Yeah, I don't know. Okay, that's all I have to say. I just feel like Elon Musk knows that he's ultimately trading in public popularity, right? So I don't actually know, and he could be a devout free speech purist, he loves it, but he recognizes that in modern application, it has to be limited in some capacity. I don't really know what his philosophy on this is. I just know that he's inconsistent in
Starting point is 00:09:17 a lot of ways. And I, as much as I want to admire the things that he's done that are good, I feel like we all have to take it with a grain of salt and remember that he is ultimately serving himself as far as we know. And we don't know what the end of that is. I think he's running it like a CEO, like he's run everything else. So ultimately, the way he's looking at Twitter is what's going to be most profitable. If he ends up getting a huge mass of people who actually do leave Twitter and manage to force themselves away from it because Donald Trump is back on there sending out mean tweets or because Alex Jones is out there existing, then maybe that's why he's decided against that unilaterally.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Well, because it's clearly about the money. You can tweet it now. Oh, yeah. You want to read it? Hannah? Claire? I'm sorry. You don't even know my name.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Luke, I've known you for so long! I said Hannah! I think you have to read it. That's not my name. No, no, yes it is. Sorry, you haven't addressed me correctly. I said Hannah, and then I was like, Claire. He said Vox Populi Vox Dei. Ha ha ha ha, Elon Musk. Have they figured out
Starting point is 00:10:19 the bots? Have they figured out the fake accounts on this particular platform? Because again, that was a major topic of discussion with Elon Musk previously talking about how many people were gaming the system, manipulating this big tech social media platform to the point where, of course, a lot of this stuff was illegitimate. So how do we know that this poll is actually going to be legitimate? How do we know that other systems, other people, other groups
Starting point is 00:10:43 won't be gaming this poll for their own personal benefit, which still hasn't been cleared up to how many accounts are real, how many accounts are fake? How is this platform being used for the sinister purposes of a lot of powerful people? That's a question that I think a lot of people are still waiting to be answered that might never be answered because we're still waiting to find out what's going on here. And if Elon Musk is just taking this approach just to make money, it's not going to be incentivized for him to be honest with the people about how many people are fake on the platform. No.
Starting point is 00:11:13 And I would say that's what is Twitter blue of doing nothing but, you know, putting certain people forward. It's just being a little bit more honest about it than Twitter has been in the past. It's what you're going to see because you pay us for it. And there are people who are so addicted to twitter that they will i think probably stay there and keep doing it at least for the time being they they they created this this rumor last night that twitter was going to shut down and it's very clever organizing on the part of the left basically the idea is make people fear they're going to lose their follower their followerships or whatever and then you'll
Starting point is 00:11:42 get them to leave the platform. And so they do. They say, oh, no, no, no, Twitter's going to shut down by tomorrow, quick. And then everyone says, everyone quick follow me on Mastodon, and they're trying to create a surge, a tsunami, an inflection point where enough people jump ship
Starting point is 00:11:56 that they'll actually start using the other platform. I wouldn't suggest Mastodon for people on the left. It's totally, you know, unfederated or defederated. So there's no moderating on mastodon people can use very naughty nasty words that you certainly couldn't use on twitter on mastodon you can't you can't censor them or whatever i'm sure there's some way to censor it they ban anything that's illegal in germany apparently uh i know that when there was a big twitter surge or you know they were all these hashtags moved in more like Twitter exodus a couple weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:12:27 And then immediately they moved to Macedon and couldn't believe all the racial slurs and anti-Semitism. And then they were like, oh, no, my safe space. So it was really funny. But that's about it. I mean, that's the reality of a decentralized network. They're not going to have the resources of a major corporation. So this is what you get. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I just don't trust Twitter. I never trusted it before. I don't trust it now that Elon's there. I know that it's sort of a personality thing. Some people live or die. But I really feel like in some ways, like I'm on it professionally to get news releases as they come out because so many people have converted it into this, you know, tool for the PR. But I don't, I don't trust Elon Musk. Like, if this is how we decide who gets to be on Twitter, I don't want to be there anyways,
Starting point is 00:13:17 right? If it's like, if you have to be- I'm more concerned about double verification. Like, verifying anybody who pays money is the stupidest idea. Maybe he thought people wanted it so bad that he was going to make a ton of money right away from it. I feel like this whole rollout
Starting point is 00:13:32 has been just really, really bad. Like, Elon, you either go for it or you don't. There's no half measures. You think I'm going to pay eight bucks? Like, I'm inclined to actually cancel. So we signed up TimCastNews for TwitterBlue for the verification, for the most part, and because it's a new account
Starting point is 00:13:49 and we wanted to have access to filters or whatever. Also, I want Twitter to succeed. I want it to work with what Elon is doing. I want to believe that when he reinstates some of these people, we saw last week some people got reinstated. All right, that's really good. Then he comes out and he's just like i don't know with all this
Starting point is 00:14:08 stuff basically i'm i'm kind of just okay all right now i'm not entirely convinced we're going to see this this this platform get fixed so here's here's my mindset now i'm not i'm not rooting against elon on this stuff i'm i'm looking forward to some improvements, but I'm going to lean back a little bit. You know, I was leaning back last week or two weeks ago. Then we heard last week that he had reinstated some accounts, and I was like, okay, so it looks like he is going to start improving things.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And I said, okay, you know, I'll get Twitter blue, but I'll get it only for Tim Kessler's. I'm not going to buy from my personal just yet. We'll see what happens. Now we have this, and I'm kind of like, eh. Do you think elon could have done more with a uh secondary platform like if he had taken over not truth necessarily but like some other thing this is the one thing that ian is very very wrong about all the time for the code twitter twitter's code is garbage it's nothing their algorithm sure i guess
Starting point is 00:15:02 i agree with ian insofar as free the code so that we can know what the algorithm is doing to us because it's manipulating us. But Gab, Parler, Getter, Mines, the ability to input text and have a server output it to a person who decides to follow a number, like, not hard to do.
Starting point is 00:15:20 So what Elon bought was you and me and Luke and Aiden and Serge. He bought all of you at home who use the platform. It's a community of people. Having control over that is useful. How do you, if you launch a new Twitter, how do you get people to use it? You can't because what makes Twitter valuable is that people are there. It is downtown. So you can buy a little store in the suburbs, I guess. Getting people to show up there is going to be a lot harder. So this is what Elon really wanted. I don't think it could have been better or worse.
Starting point is 00:15:50 The problem is you can't have it both ways. Let me pull up this tweet here. Elon Musk tweeted, what should Twitter do next? Originally, good name, says bring back Alex Jones. Elon Musk says no. The Hodge twins tweeted, should Elon bring back Alex Jones of 140,000 votes? 57.7 say yes. 42.3 say no. And then we have this tweet from Viva Frye, who makes the perfect point. Alex Jones is the litmus test, Elon Musk, not just on the issue of freedom of speech, but on the issue of not bending the knee to political and judicial intimidation.
Starting point is 00:16:28 If this is a hard no, your Twitter will never be any more trustworthy than Parag or Jack's Twitter. And Elon responded too bad. There you go. What a prick. Seriously. If you're going to do something like this, violate free speech for an individual that is controversial while allowing other controversial voices to be on there. If you're allowing Kathy Griffin to be on there but not Alex Jones, at least explain
Starting point is 00:16:53 yourself. And what did Alex Jones do? He yelled at Oliver Darcy. Yeah. He was in one of the congressional buildings. And confronted Jack Dorsey. Well, he confronted his banning was over Oliver Darcy. He put up a video where he was calling him a rat face or something. Yeah, I'm not a fan of that, right?
Starting point is 00:17:10 I can't stand this stuff. There's a lot of people who just laugh and say, no, they deserve it. And Alex was right. And it's like, I don't care. You're allowed to like that. Fine. It's free speech and all that. But I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:17:20 And I certainly don't think he should have been banned for doing it. If you're in public and someone's mad at you and they confront you, there was no security threat or anything like that. It was just Alex yelling at the guy. They banned him for it. Kathy Griffin held up an image of a severed head and she didn't even get banned for that. She got like a slap on the wrist. She got banned because she mocked Elon Musk, parroting his account without putting parody, trying to, I guess, make a point or whatever, he reinstates her. But showing, holding up
Starting point is 00:17:50 a severed head of the president, that was never in question. She also evaded the ban and then went on her dead mother's platform in order to still raise her voice against Elon Musk. So again, something's happening here. You're going to allow her to have a voice, but not Alex Jones. Explain your reasoning. Don't be a prick. Don't just say too bad. What's going on
Starting point is 00:18:10 here? Is there internal pressure? Are there people inside of the company that are saying, no, don't do this? Are there corporations? Are there government agencies? Are there any other institutions that are pressuring you to do this? At least explain yourself if you're going to be making this kind of statement. And Alex Jones, of course, responded, making his own video regarding this specific news. And he says, hey, guys, don't blame Elon Musk here. Alex Jones is trying to be the bigger person here addressing this larger saga here. But at the end of the day, we at least deserve an explanation because we were promised free speech. This is not free speech.
Starting point is 00:18:44 This is a person deciding what he wants with his own whims that that shouldn't be acceptable to anyone yeah i was gonna say alex jones doesn't have a choice but to be the bigger person right if he goes on a tirade and is mad at elon he's like your family's not even that cool like he could be like kathy griffin and go nuclear and go crazy but it's okay if she does it exactly she's a really funny comedian you don't understand hilarious But it's okay if she does it. Exactly. She's a really funny comedian. You don't understand. Hilarious. Hilarious. It's the same thing with now
Starting point is 00:19:07 the 230 ruling though, right? Of that, maybe you could make the argument that Elon is worried that, you know, Alex comes back and because he's being sued for $3 trillion now, which is,
Starting point is 00:19:17 I believe it is just- Is it $3 trillion? It's $3 trillion, which is just a little bit under twice. Is it really $3 trillion? Yes. Just a little under twice the annual DOD cost. I think it's three times the GDP of France.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Something like that. I just looked up today that it's twice the DOD's annual budget. So yeah, $3 trillion is on the table. They're trying to fund the war in Ukraine. The money's got to come from somewhere. So maybe you could make the argument that before this decision comes down about Section 230, is that maybe Elon is worried that, well, if they're going after Alex Jones for the GDP of France, that then they'll come after him in some way.
Starting point is 00:19:55 But if Section 230 is no longer going to apply to make it so that you can sue the platform for what someone on it says, then it doesn't make any sense. People are bringing up that Alex Jones issued a statement saying Elon shouldn't bring him back. He's the most controversial person and Elon's going up against everybody. And so he's got to do what he can. And I don't care. Alex, I understand what you're saying. And I get it. But either Elon is going to, there's a couple of ways he could play this. He could just not respond. He could say nothing.
Starting point is 00:20:29 He is choosing to come out and outright say, you know that free speech thing I tweeted about an hour ago? Screw that. I don't really care. So that's what pisses me off. I totally get that Elon's like, dude, there's only so much I can do. Totally get it. I respect it.
Starting point is 00:20:46 He just bought this massive platform. It needs to survive. It needs money to operate. He doesn't want it to die. He doesn't want to lose money on that. And he wants to actually bring free speech back. I get it. You bring back Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:20:57 They go nuclear against you. And then the whole thing implodes. He brought back Andrew Tate. Andrew Tate is back on the platform. Yeah. So how are we picking and choosing here? What's the scale here? Well, the scale is, Alex points out, he's the most controversial person in the world.
Starting point is 00:21:12 That being said, Elon did not have to come out and insult Alex's fans like that. He could have just ignored it. Yeah, he didn't have to respond to anyone tweeting on Alex's behalf, too. I mean, he is looking for this fight. But to me, I just don't understand why. why like what purpose is this serving for the virtue signaling i guess but he's virtue the advertisers so he can be like look see i said i wouldn't bring him back because when he said he hadn't made a decision on trump or when he said he wasn't going to bring back jones a bunch of leftists were like at least there's i high profile leftists, journalists saying at least some sanity and things like that.
Starting point is 00:21:47 He's getting positive feedback from that, which is the first positive feedback he's gotten on any of this. However, it is a slippery slope and it's the same way they've fallen before. Which is first it's Alex Jones, then who else is then not acceptable? But that's not true. He's getting attacked by the corporate media insanely. Every day there's hippies after hippies after hippies. This is not being met with like, okay, this is great. This is being ignored. And they're still trying to attack him
Starting point is 00:22:09 any way that they possibly can. So why are you trying to placate these people? Or is he like trying to go over to the FBI or BlackRock or China? Be like, look at me. I'm a totalitarian. I'm a prick too. I can do what you guys do.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Is that what you're doing? Because what else are we left to speculate here? Because otherwise there's no other rational conclusion than him, as you, Tim, mentioned, specifically showing off to the powers that be, saying, I could play ball. I could play game. You know, just tell me what to do, and I'll follow those orders. And that's not a platform that I believe in. That's not a platform that I want to be on.
Starting point is 00:22:39 I want to read this super chat from Old Stick Key Taint. He says, voting for Trump's unbanning is a smart move force the advertisers to justify why they want to uh what do you say pause advertisement poll advertisements when the majority of their target audience wants him on actually yeah that's a really great point what out what what elon needs to say to the advertisers is you are being attacked by activists who are lying to you and costing you money. Once we get rid of those bots, you will be able to actually target your audience who like people like Jones or Trump. That's probably probably the move he's making in that regard.
Starting point is 00:23:15 They'd have to publish or at least actually conduct some real internal research that they could show to their shareholders on that and the people they're selling advertising space. There's no shareholders. We're not shareholders. Sorry. Selling marketing. to their shareholders on that and the people they're selling advertising space there's no shareholders we're not shareholders sorry uh selling marketing well i think there's i think they do have technically stockholders or right because because they're there he does have people who are holding privately but people that they're selling advertisements to them they would want to be able to tell them that look that your advertisements are being shown to real people
Starting point is 00:23:42 and that those people when they are given internal when they're given polls because you know you can take these exit polls on twitter so they send you an email and you say would you like to take this poll about your experience with twitter you get twitter blue for a month for free or something like that so you can try it out if you finish our survey there's all kinds of ways to incentivize people to give you data that you could use and then take that and say hair to the advertisers people say they want trump to this certain degree and actually have something to sell with them and say it's not all bought i tried advertising on twitter because i i they're giving the double verification everybody so i tweeted hey elon how much do i got to spend to get the official tag and uh i don't expect him actually
Starting point is 00:24:20 respond to me but so i decided to take out an ad on our Trump going Super Saiyan shirt, which is available in the chat pinned. It's the Super Maga shirt. And so I was going to put a big campaign behind it, 25K to see if it's legit. And because again, I do want to see Twitter succeed. I'm not just throwing money at Elon. It's advertising a product we sell that we make money on that I bet if I spend this money,
Starting point is 00:24:42 we're going to make more money back. They rejected it. They said a cartoon image of Donald Trump going super sane was political. Why? Now, now that now I'm deeply offended. I just wanted to sell a T-shirt of Donald Trump with with Goku hair. I can't even do that, apparently. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Sorry. Oh, no, that was it. I was just agreeing. I do. How do they determine what's political? Because I've only used the promotion feature once on Twitter, and it was to promote a YouTube video that was not largely political, but there were politics involved in the video.
Starting point is 00:25:14 So how do they determine what's political? It's Trump. They didn't want a cartoon of Trump that makes him look good. They don't want to take the money for that or something? Well, my video was an hour long, and it was political at some points, but they, I guess, didn't want to watch an hour long video to figure that part out. The image isn't even pro or anti-Trump. It's just meant to be silly.
Starting point is 00:25:31 It's Trump with, you know, spiky blonde hair. Now, there's a couple of things to consider, especially with this poll with Elon Musk asking if Donald Trump should be reinstated or not. Because on October 3rd, Mashable has this article that I think is worth revisiting right now that's titled, In Elon Musk's Words, It Seems Twitter Bots Are Always to Blame. Now, there hasn't been any kind of reckoning with the bots. There hasn't been any kind of discovery. There haven't been any kind of major bombshells surrounding the bots on big tech social media platforms, especially Twitter. But Elon Musk was complaining about the bots after he did a poll on his own Twitter account, specifically on October 3rd, asking if there should be a
Starting point is 00:26:11 Ukrainian-Russian peace deal. After their response, he specifically said, this is the biggest bot attack I've ever seen. So why, after not dealing with the bots, are we deciding if the former president of the United States, who's running to be president in 2024 will be able to have any kind of speech also if you remember he also tweeted earlier today that he believes in the policy of freedom of speech no he doesn't but he says he does but he doesn't believe in the freedom of reach and he says negative content is going to be de-boosted demonetized what's negative content what who's going to be determining what's negative what's positive again everything here is arbitrary What's negative content? Who's going to be determining what's negative, what's positive? Again, everything here is arbitrary. There's no baselines. There's no rules. He's following along and doing horrible things like not allowing free speech on the
Starting point is 00:26:54 platform, which he promised, which everyone now feels backstabbed about. And that's that idiom that you see people on the left use so commonly of, oh, freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. So it's basically coming down to the same kind of thing. I feel like at this point, everyone should just tweet at Elon Musk, like, give us a timeline on the bot situation. Like, didn't Ann Coulter have like a countdown every day that Donald Trump didn't like do something about the wall?
Starting point is 00:27:15 Like, where is our like, the bots are gone countdown? Because I mean, to both of your points, Elon Musk is putting out polls and then saying they're being hacked by bots. So you already told us it was a problem. And also, how are you supposed to give accurate data to any advertisers if they're always being, if you can say at any time, oh, well, the bots got to this. I mean, you would think that ideally, if he is working in true capitalism and he wants to make as much money as possible, he would be hounding his staff to deal with the bots.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Or are the bots a problem that can't be solved? That's why I asked earlier, do you think he made a mistake buying Twitter? Is this platform, and I'm not a tech person, but is it so corrupted the bots are something that can't be removed at this point? You can't purge them fast enough. At this point, would it be better to abandon ship
Starting point is 00:28:03 and move on to something else, even though you can't bring the people with you a complete user verification would do something maybe to help with the problem but he's not going to do and and also i i think that you're going to lose a lot of people will leave the platform if you require someone to although you need to have a phone number you don't need to force everyone it's if you want verification you got to use a real picture a real name so we have verified you. I thought when he was talking about a verification, he was going to verify everyone the same way
Starting point is 00:28:30 we have to be verified. Either a brand account that confirms they are the corporation, and it's really hard to do. I don't know if Twitter does it this way, but you have to send them a photo of your articles of incorporation with your ID showing that you are the officer, because they're verifying you.
Starting point is 00:28:46 For everyone else, you can use different photos and stuff, but typically you have to be the person you're verified to be. Milo Yiannopoulos lost his verification because he included in his bio BuzzFeed journalist or something like that. They said, oh, but you're impersonating verification removed. So Elon comes in and he's like, you can have a badge you wanted so bad for $8. And then he just verifies everyone. Then when that implodes, he's like, I'll just give a second verification to big brands. And that's what my point was. Okay, what constitutes worthiness for getting verified twice?
Starting point is 00:29:20 I know, it's confusing. And it's weird being on the platform seeing double verification. Only the corporate media, which again, Elon knows the corporate media runs scams. If we're going to be fighting disinformation, if we're going to be getting rid of controversial figures that spread disinformation, CNN needs to be gone from the platform immediately. MSNBC needs to be gone from the platform immediately. And they're not. So if we're going to not allow Alex Jones for allegedly being misinformation, he got something's wrong, obviously.
Starting point is 00:29:49 We could criticize everyone. I've criticized him before. But at the end of the day, you take his record and you take it to the corporate media. He has told far more truths than, of course, the corporate media that's routinely lying to the American people
Starting point is 00:30:01 and running larger psyopses against them. Well, I can at least say I'm satisfied seeing stuff like this from Engadget. Democratic senators ask FTC to investigate Elon Musk over his handling of Twitter. What? The lawmakers cite the botched rollout of paid verification and the recent departures of top privacy execs. On what grounds does that constitute an FTC investigation? He fired people? Seriously? And the Democrats are now, this is what corruption looks like. Well, now it's the public square. It
Starting point is 00:30:32 wasn't the before it's a private company, they can do what they want. But now we have an issue that the FTC needs to get involved with. That's right. For years, Twitter has been wreaking havoc on our political sphere on the public, and nobody would do anything about it. I mean, there were some Republicans that have hearings and they'd waste everyone's time. Now the Democrats are shocked and concerned about what's going on. It's just, it's all so fake. I'm done with it. It's fake. You're liars. I don't care to listen to you. We are wasting our time being bothered by even playing a game with these people. So I think the one thing you can do right now is improve yourself. Start a family, have kids, buy property, improve on your skills, get in shape. You want to succeed and you want to win this.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Get fit, eat right, cut out the sugars, have a family, make money. That was my favorite thing that Elon said on Twitter. Like a little while ago when it came out that he had like secret twins, he was like, I have a big family and I hope you all do too. And I was like, yeah, okay. Yeah, he was saying most billionaires don't have kids. It's great. But I'm saying if you think your path to victory, let's say you're really good at playing Monopoly. And so you're like, if I enter this Monopoly tournament, then I'll win the grand prize.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Only problem is you realize that your opponent isn't playing fairly. And so you keep just playing the game, even though they're lying about everything that's going on. Eventually, he's got to say, maybe I should find another way to succeed. If everybody just focuses on themselves and ignores this obvious corruption and hypocrisy, I'm not saying don't resist it, don't fight against it. I'm saying stop asking them politely to please stop. Stop treating them like they're doing this on accident. That's my point. Improve yourself.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Assume everything they're doing is intentional and designed to hurt you. And then figure out ways to overcome. Notably, right now, we've got to overcome the ballot harvesting operations they have. Scott Pressler says he's going to do it. I got faith he can. Let's see what we can do to help back him and many others who are going to start working for the 2020 on the 2024 election. And then maybe we can get some people in who will just do away with this stuff. Yeah, people have to do something. The only one who did anything about
Starting point is 00:32:39 the, you know, fortification was DeSantis. And, well, that went how it went. Yeah. DeSantis 2024? He's the only one who did anything. Everyone else complained about it and then did nothing. He made some very interesting comments against the World Economic Forum today, which I thought was also kind of very eye-opening because very few politicians usually talk about these larger key issues that do affect them. But again, with this news of this Democratic senator asking the FTC to investigate someone, it's been seven days since FTX went bankrupt. Seven days, obviously, criminal fraud here. Obviously,
Starting point is 00:33:18 people have been defrauded. People have been robbed of their money. No one got arrested. Madoff got arrested in 24 hours after his Ponzi scheme was exposed to everyone. Seven days later, and then we have the FBI warning the guy that they're going to maybe, maybe possibly be going after him. Are you kidding me? This reeks of corruption. And this could be one of the reasons
Starting point is 00:33:38 why Elon Musk is like, oh crap, the FTC might be on my butt. I got to do what they want me to do as the federal government is telling big tech social media platforms to ban particular voices. Again, the U.S. government is violating the First Amendment in more ways than one,
Starting point is 00:33:55 particularly when it comes to online speech. This could be one of the reasons why we don't have free speech and we won't have free speech on Twitter as announced by Elon Musk today. I think that that's probably very likely that there's some, well, with this thing about the FTC involvement, that the federal government might have gotten in contact with him.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Considering the other, isn't that over the FTX scandal? Well, they keep threatening him on Twitter. Right. And so maybe he's just like, I got to tone things down. I just think it's crazy. We can like threaten Elon Musk, FTX, there's nothing. But Taylor Swift's general ticket sale gets canceled and there's already a doj investigation into ticket master they were charging like twenty thousand dollars a ticket
Starting point is 00:34:34 or something oh it's crazy it is a like wild west and the people buying it i have six tickets i will proudly announce that what what how but you didn't How? But you didn't. So I'm a millionaire. Thanks, Krypton. No, I'm just kidding. The whole process was insane. And you have to like register beforehand to become a verified fan. They'll decide if you're a verified fan. If you are a verified fan, you get a code. It's texted to you. This sounds like a cult.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Yeah. It felt like such a cult. Hannah, are you okay? I don't know Hannah Lou. I'm not sure who Hannah is. But like the process was insane. And the big thing was, I'm really sad about this, Tim. I actually bought my tickets while I was live on Pop Culture on Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:35:14 That's good content. Yeah. And the ticket sales got delayed for so long that I carried my laptop up. And I was like, look, Brett and Mary, I'm here for you. I do this every Tuesday. But I have to get these tickets it's now or never did the tickets come with kool-aid not that i know of but maybe at the concert she'll like inject us all i'm not sure i just feel like as uh as a millennial where is the concert
Starting point is 00:35:33 she has a bunch she has 52 shows she's how much how much were the tickets uh mine were 240 dollars oh okay are you to resell them? No. Well, I have people who I bought them for. Ticketmaster said that they gave out 1.5 million of these codes, put 2 million people on the wait list, and then they were expecting 30% of people who got codes to use them. And of those people, each buy three tickets. Okay, okay. I don't know where these numbers came from. Hold on, hold on, right? So I heard it was reported that some of the tickets are 20 grand yeah so okay people are
Starting point is 00:36:09 selling them you've got tickets for some people do you think those people would be happier to watch taylor swift or get 20 grand i honestly think they'd rather watch taylor swift but i'll ask them we could phone a friend right now i'll let them know the kool-aid is strong you don't understand like there is such a I think it's twofold. I think people really like Taylor Swift. She hasn't been on tour in a while. But the other thing is like, I, all of my friends
Starting point is 00:36:29 who want to go to this concert were like robbed of two years of their 20s because of COVID. Like, they want to go out. They want to do things. Did I see Taylor Swift? Look, man, you weren't indoctrinated
Starting point is 00:36:40 the way I was indoctrinated. We're judging you very heavily. I'm okay with that. I wouldn't have said it on this podcast if I wasn't comfortable. I really have to know, I'm just really quick. What did you have to do to prove that you were a Taylor? I have no idea. Oh. Of 15 different people I talked to. Oh, because you re-bought them? No, I bought them. I got a code. I don't know why I was selected other than they wanted to like see my heart rate go up. I'm not sure. But it was, it was this insane process, Ticketmaster crashed. AOC tweeted during this pre-sale, as everyone was complaining about it,
Starting point is 00:37:09 they're a trust, we should break Ticketmaster up because they had to. Yeah, absolutely. But that's just because she couldn't get her... That's what I thought! I was like, this girl wants to go to the concert. I have one more, AOC, if you'd like to come with me. No, but it's this crazy thing where we have this pop star returning to tour after COVID. And by Friday after the disastrous sale, there's already an antitrust investigation.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Oh, I know. It's amazing. Why are they moving this quickly? Amy Klobuchar's granddaughter wants to go to Taylor Swift. Yeah, that's why. Didn't get tickets and she's like, bring the DOJ in. The second anything in any way negatively affects hold on the those in the oligarchy then all of a sudden they they put their feet to the fire and they care how old is taylor swift she's 32 so she's she's not
Starting point is 00:37:57 going to be old enough in 2024 is she no no oh wait you'd be oh she is gonna be old enough taylor swift hey swing she's got an idea for you her birthday is uh uh december 13th meaning that by the time she would be inaugurated she would be 35 years old taylor swift is gonna run for the democratic ticket that's it that's what they're doing that's why that's why aoc is all over it yeah i think that makes sense i mean i think she is that influential among at least young voters no wait maybe i'm wrong what yeah maybe i'm wrong maybe she's gonna be 34 catch her in 20 she'll be 34 i think wait wait she's about to turn 33 so that means she'll be 34 in in 2023 yeah she'll be 35 at the end of 20 uh 2024 so that means she'll be 34 in 2023. Yeah, she'll be 35 at the end of 2024.
Starting point is 00:38:52 So that means she can run because by the time she's going to be sworn in, she will be old enough to be president. 35, right? I would do anything to see a Trump-Taylor Swift debate. Oh, man. I will sell tickets to that. Ticketmaster can crash again. Okay, I'd buy those ones, though. What about a Trump-Kanye ticket versus
Starting point is 00:39:05 a Swift-Obama? Swift-AOC, Trump-Kanye. We're going a little bit dangerously into idiocracy here, though. At this point, I'm like, I feel like we're going on a water slide and the only way to get through it is just to roll through it.
Starting point is 00:39:20 You know what I mean? Taylor Swift's presidency? I just can't imagine. IQs are dropping, so anything's possible. But the thing is, she's a figurehead. She is the pop star of an entire generation. And to so many people who were raised, especially in the social media era,
Starting point is 00:39:38 she has more influence than any politician. I mean, AOC has whatever amount of followers online. She has also kind of followers online. She has also kind of translated herself into an internet presence. But really, there are certain people who capture attention. And whether you like it or not, Taylor Swift is one of them.
Starting point is 00:39:55 And I respect that she's not everyone's thing. I myself don't like a lot of her music. Dude. But I feel like I have to go to this concert. Think about like, just, you know, for a moment, bear with me. How cool would it be if like Taylor Swift runs and then she becomes like the most brutal dictator ever? It's just like extrajudicial assassinations are through the roof tenfold what they were under Obama.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And then it's like you have like a documentary 50 years from now. President Swift was the most aggressive authoritarian leader any nation had ever seen. The reign of Tay Sway. Yeah, she's like drop the bombs. President Swift was the most aggressive authoritarian leader any nation had ever seen. The reign of Taysway. Yeah, she's like, drop the bombs. Running under the campaign slogan, shake it off. The IQ deficit thing is really fascinating, because children that were born during the pandemic, during the lockdowns,
Starting point is 00:40:42 which again, this being the first time people can get out, one study found that they have a 30-point IQ deficit using... 30 points! Yes. Woo! Wow. Early for infant IQ tests, which those are not super valid, but if that maintains in the early studies of 30-point IQ deficit, that would mean that the average person born in that three-year period would have an average IQ of 70 and remember, average means the
Starting point is 00:41:06 middle, meaning the other half is lower than that. Horrifying. It's like that George Carlin joke. He was like, think about how stupid the average person is. Now realize half of them are stupider than that. Wow. Well, I feel bad for these kids, but I mostly feel bad for myself because
Starting point is 00:41:22 by the time I'm in my 50s and desperately trying to vote to save this country or planet, you're going to have a lot of really dumb people voting. They're going to be like, masks are good. I used to wear masks all the time. I vote for masks. It's like a mask.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Mandatory masking when you're going to the bathroom. They're going to be like, I don't feel comfortable without my mask. I need my mask. Is that crazy? They're not going to say that because their IQs are very low they're gonna be walking into a room and someone's gonna be like you gotta take the mask off and they go i need the mask and they go sir take the mask off relief and then go and then they're gonna be like okay okay okay okay you can wear the mask geez as they're sucking down on their watermelon peach vapes. I could just see it now.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Watermelon peach? Is that like the flavor that you think young people eat? I just made something up as I was talking. That's his personal favorite vape flavor. It'd have to be like avocado toast flavor or something. I used to. Avocado toast flavored vape? Sounds horrific. And Taylor Swift is giving them out at her campaign rallies.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Yeah, there you go. It's how you get the young people involved. Speaking of low IQs, let's pull up this story. New York City lawyer sobs in court as she's sentenced to 15 months behind bars for firebombing NYPD van with Molotov cocktail fashioned out of a Bud Light bottle during BLM protests. Rouge Ramen asked a judge to spare her prison time and give her a second chance to redeem herself for what she called a momentary lapse of judgment. Yo, lady, prison is for dangerous people. Okay, 15 months, you're getting a slap on the wrist considering you firebombed a car. If it was like she threw a rock and it hit somebody in the head, I might be like, okay,
Starting point is 00:43:02 you know, 15 months, don't throw rocks, people. Come on. No, she threw a firebomb. She like was handing them out to people. So, you know, again, speaking of low IQs, we're already seeing, we're already seeing how bad it can be when these people have momentary lapses of judgment. The scary thing about it is that people like, like her, they think they're smart. That's the scary thing.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Midwitism. Well, you know, midwits, midwits are average, you know, like midwits are slightly above average. But they're very convinced that they're usually part of when people get called midwits. It's that they are also part of that convinced that they are very intelligent, which makes it dangerous. Midwit is basically they are a little smart, like a little bit above average, but they're not smart enough to truly understand. So they're active players like these journalists, the corporate press, they're midwits. You know, there's that IQ bell curve you see all the time where the dumb guy and the smart guy agree on things and the average person is like doing the wrong thing, pro-establishment or whatever. This is kind of scary when you think about it. And then you realize that we're going to have a
Starting point is 00:44:04 wave of substantially stupider people due to the masking policies and the lockdown policies in these schools these kids are all developmentally stunted and they're not getting they're not getting those years back i don't know if you guys ever read about the the girl raised by wolves i mean not the girl but there's a bunch of stories of like kids they never learn you know by the time they're adults there was like some story i read about a woman who was uh like seriously abused and locked in a basement until she was 13 it was like tricksy or something like that when she was when she was finally rescued she couldn't learn to speak proper colloquial english right right she could only say certain words like hungry
Starting point is 00:44:39 sleep but she couldn't actually articulate long thoughts with other people. That's scary, man. Those foundational developmental years are really, really important for children to become adults or to be able to function whatsoever in society. So, yeah, a child can survive in the woods being raised by wolves. You can survive, but you can't – you're going to have so many developmental issues. So with these children who have grown up never seeing their parents' face or very rarely seeing their parents' face, which is a huge part of it, of forming the connection between mother and child and father and child, they don't have any of that.
Starting point is 00:45:13 So that does explain partially why the IQ deficit is what we're seeing in the preliminary data. You ever see that study where they had the mom, they brought in a bunch of moms with kids, and then the mom would not respond to the baby's facial cues? Have you seen that? It's so sad. The sad the baby like tries to get the mom to react and they like they told the mother just remain stone-faced and do not respond to the baby and then eventually the baby just starts crying like freaking out yeah these immune system deniers are absolutely sick and disgusting i'm serious when we look at the policies that they've implemented, they knew the horrors
Starting point is 00:45:46 that this was going to bring. And we've seen video after video of these fat, bureaucratic, totalitarian teachers just shove a mask on a child's face as they're literally fighting with them. Toddlers, small children in kindergarten were forced to be masked, which is leading
Starting point is 00:46:02 to severe developmental issues that we're going to be seeing the long-term consequences of, especially in the future. There was even major politicians that came out and said, guys, I made a mistake. You did? Of course you did. We all knew you did. We were talking about this.
Starting point is 00:46:20 We were warning about this. And our voices were censored by big tech social media. And this is why it went on for so long. It was because of that censorship. It's because people couldn't push back. It's because the ideas couldn't be challenged or tested in the public sphere. And we were censored. And we had to continue with this ludicrous nonsense, bullcrap, insane policy that has
Starting point is 00:46:41 hurt children in so many unspeakable ways. I interviewed a mom on Long Island a couple months ago when schools were going back and forth over whether or not they would remove their mask policy. And she was just telling me about her experience. I wrote about it for the site. But one of the worst parts of it she told me was that there was a girl in the school who got sick in class, threw up in her mask. She's like in the second grade.
Starting point is 00:47:00 And they made her walk to the nurse's office without taking her mask off. Evil. Like, this is insane. Why would we live this way? Well, even before this, did you ever hear the story about what's going on in Chicago? Where they lock kids
Starting point is 00:47:13 in padded rooms? There was a little boy who was like acting out. So they brought him into a padded room, locked the door, and then just left him there for hours.
Starting point is 00:47:21 He started screaming he had to go to the bathroom so they ignored him. And when his parents finally came, they found him like with crap on his pants and he's like a little kid, like I forgot how old he is, like five or six or something.
Starting point is 00:47:30 So this stuff's been going on. It's only getting worse. Homeschool your kids. One last point on the COVID stuff. There was a study that I came across. It's by Dr. Raymond Palmer. It's called COVID-19 Vaccines and the Misinterpretation of Perceived Side Effects.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Clarity on the Safety of Vaccines. If you don't mind, I'd like to read a few lines. What is the... The basic premise is that all of the side effects are just because people were mean about it. People were mean on Twitter about whether or not they wanted to get vaccinated. They did a study. It's not a real study. It's his contention.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Ah. His contention, yes. What's his publication? It's published in the Journal of Biomedicine just last year. Is that a reputable publication? Yes, it is. That's the horrifying part. Basically, much of this anti-vaccination sentiment could be attributed to the alleged side effects
Starting point is 00:48:20 that are perpetuated across social media from anti-vaccination groups. Fear-mongering and misinformation being peddled by people with no scientific training to terrorize people into staying unvaccinated could be causing the side effects in the vaccination process so we're not talking about like kids being masked we're talking about it's in any kind of side of this i just came up i saw this today but any kind of side of this. I just came up. I saw this today. But any kind of side effect of anything socially, medically is because of anti-vaxxers being mean on social media. Well, hold on there. Guys, we've got to stop being mean. I know.
Starting point is 00:48:55 That's the only way. Is that the cure to COVID? Apparently. Everybody will be healthier. Well, to be fair, I mean, stress does cause health problems. It does. That's his contention. Well, I think his contention is garbage. But we can all try to be fair, I mean, stress does cause health problems. It does. That's his contention. Well, I think his contention is garbage.
Starting point is 00:49:07 But we can all try to be a little nicer. Also, I don't feel like the anti-vaxxers were, again, I'm not an avid Twitter user, but I felt like the dominant pressure was to get vaccinated, was to follow through. And those who questioned that were the ones who were attacked. He's literally accusing people of what the establishment was doing yes and by as a perfect example perfectly described it except for his side was doing that right and what his contention what's his his evidence for it later in it is that well women uh had more uh myocarditis and different kinds of cardiac events following um you know exposure to social media and it's because of that that there's this this issue i mean actually it sounds plausible it is plausible women are more likely to um have
Starting point is 00:49:53 really severe stress reactions to well social pressure yeah because we we talked about that study where like teenage girls are getting depressed from instagram i mean if if if you are susceptible for whatever reason, be it COVID or now they like now they have that study that NBC News reported about where they're doing Pfizer and Moderna, I think are doing long term studies on myocarditis and pericarditis, which they say is very rare. But my point is, if you are susceptible for whatever reason, and you're having heart palpitations because of stress on social media i mean i don't think anti-vaxxer makes the most sense but the idea that social media stress could make put you like put increase your risk for any kind of uh heart issue yeah just kind of a weird
Starting point is 00:50:38 convenient thing to say no i think we're seeing this increased stress in people and it is causing them cardiac issues it must be the anti-vaxxers on social media that are responsible for it, which is, again, a convenient way to blame others for what they're doing. You could say it's cancel culture. Oh, sure. The fear of being canceled, of not fitting in, of not virtue signaling is causing people to have heart problems. I actually would believe that too, especially with what we know.
Starting point is 00:51:03 I think, you know, we've seen a lot of young girls negatively impacted by social media. They get depressed when they don't get enough likes. But they're younger, so their hearts aren't going to give out. But what if you're like a 50, 60-year-old woman and you're wrapped up in this stuff? Like, I don't know if you guys saw the Rosie O'Donnell, Kathy Griffin TikTok they put out. And it's just cringe, like super cringe. But I imagine for them, they're a lot older. They're active on social media.
Starting point is 00:51:27 They're probably getting stressed out bad by this stuff. But they also just have old hearts. So like, I wouldn't be surprised if you came to me and said that Kathy Griffin was having a heart condition. I'd be like, yeah, the lady's strung out on Twitter like she's losing it. Sure. With a problem with a study like that, where he's making his contention and his conclusion is that, well, there's competing variables here.
Starting point is 00:51:48 There's alternative hypotheses. And you're just contending that this must be the correct yeah yeah but that one could very well be part of it as well as that women really are getting more stressed out because of social pressures on on social media i think it's fair to say that you know myocarditis is not caused by mean tweets i think i think that's the baseline that we should be having here but hold on prove it yeah. But hold on. Prove it. Prove it in a study. I'll rely on Pfizer and Moderna to tell us what to believe in since they're investigating themselves. So they're very trustworthy. Right. But I do think it's a fair point to say if you're susceptible, being stressed out will increase your risk probably.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Like cortisol stressors causes negative health consequences. The point I'm trying to bring up is, guys, I get it. But social media is bad for us. The algorithms are manipulating us. They're controlling us into believing stupid political nonsense. And young girls are getting depressed. Mostly young guys are getting depressed too, but it's mostly young girls getting depressed by this.
Starting point is 00:52:39 I got no problem being like, I am absolutely willing to throw the algorithms of Facebook under the bus on this one if it means we can i don't know do something about it change it or fix it well there are a couple uh wrongful death lawsuits going there's one in the uk with like a 12 year old boy there's one in california with like a 19 year old girl who are uh they they basically are arguing that the algorithms fed them content that they may have been predisposed to anxiety or issues, but it encouraged these mental health issues to the point where at least one of the one of the children killed themselves. If it's the 12 year old boy in the UK that I'm thinking of, then that lawsuit is
Starting point is 00:53:14 completely bogus. Yeah. Because, yes, he was being bullied online, but he had horrible home life. And then it also turned out that if that's the one I'm thinking of, that his mother, then he was brain dead and was kept in line on ventilators for three months while he was literally, his brainstem was necrotizing while she was making money by posting pictures of him on social media in a diaper. And if that's the same story, then-
Starting point is 00:53:36 I don't know. I know there have been several lawsuits. I just find it interesting. And again, maybe not all of them are valid, but I find it interesting that people are choosing this route to say, like, we are experiencing the suffering right away. We didn't evolve in these conditions whatsoever. So, of course, it's overstimulating to the dopaminergic center of the brain. I want to talk about chickens.
Starting point is 00:53:57 So I'm just going to hard segue, and it's Friday, and so we're chilling. But we have this story from uh gbn eggs to be rationed across uk until spring 2023 supermarkets including tesco asda and little taking urgent action uh buy some chickens i like i don't know if this is going to happen here in the united states probably not we're a very very big country we have i think we've got more farmland than the uk they're not they're not as large but the energy crisis i, I'm bringing up the eggs thing just to be silly. It is a very serious story. But with what's going on in Ukraine and Russia, the latest report I saw was that Russia was pulling back missile batteries. And so they're
Starting point is 00:54:35 expecting a barrage to come down, like a serious one now, like Russia's not giving up on this. And that just means it's going to get a lot worse. Now that the midterms are over and Joe Biden is done dumping strategic petroleum, the prices are going to skyrocket again. And now we're also hearing this. 25% of U.S. faces potential winter electricity outages. Fuel shortages have increased risk to U.S. power grid. So buy some chickens.
Starting point is 00:55:01 You know, just a couple in the backyard, I guess, if you can. And, you know, they'll eat the bugs, live in the pod, and they'll give you eggs. But I will just say right now, we're looking at home prices collapsing. People don't want to buy. Interest rates are going to go back up. Inflation's getting worse. Gas prices are going to skyrocket.
Starting point is 00:55:18 The band-aid that they put on the economy to try and save Democrats in the midterms is now losing its effectiveness because a band-aid over a bullet wound can't do much for long. So I don't know. What do you guys think? Well, first of all, I agree with the buying chicken things. We've got them over in the UK. So I guess we'll be all right from the egg crisis that's coming in, allegedly. But yeah, absolutely. It was a bandaid, as you said, and it can't do much for a prolonged period of time to deal with the really disastrous effects of the Joe Biden presidency that were just temporarily ameliorated by this injection of money. And people are going to feel it.
Starting point is 00:55:56 And who are they going to blame? Because the media will say it's the Republicans. You should have voted harder. You didn't vote hard enough. So I don't know. How are people going to be able to explain that to themselves? And also the Trump presidency from the lockdowns as well. We have to understand the lockdowns are still having a very severe effect on our economic way of life. There's even
Starting point is 00:56:12 major shortages of antibiotics that people can't find in U.S. hospitals where children are left stranded and screwed over because they don't have the medicine because the supply shortages from that lockdown are still affecting our financial markets today, which is absolutely crazy. And I think we still haven't seen the rest of it yet. These financial consequences of just spending money, giving people $2,000 checks, bringing back the Inflation Reduction Act, which doesn't really reduce inflation but spends more money on climate and other social justice warrior causes that bill gates spurs on uh is not going to help anyone we have to understand we're in for some big trouble and there's no denying it this is kind of a segue but uh biden's 80th birthday is sunday
Starting point is 00:56:59 and happy birthday we did not get an annual physical release this week, which I find to be extremely annoying. I know that the Biden administration is not trustworthy, but at least pretend. I would have liked to have seen the report that inevitably would have declared that he is competent and healthy and good at stuff. Because at least then you are keeping up the premise that you have to pretend. I don't trust the Biden administration. And I am now concerned that they aren't even pretending to hide anything anymore. They are openly not talking about his health. They're not even walking through the.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Yeah, they're not even pretending the emperor has any clothes at this point. It's all. Well, I guess everyone knows. Is anyone really? Well, they're stuck, right? If they put out a clean bill of health, everyone goes, I don't think so. And if they don't, they have to admit that he's not going to run in 2024.
Starting point is 00:57:50 And they're not willing to do that either. I feel like this is such a strange power grab. And I feel sorry for my generation and basically all Americans out there who are having to pay the price for this. You know, I'm sad for this country because we should be teaching our younger generation how to think critically and how to survive and we've not done that and now we have a whole bunch of you know whiny woke loser cultists who are like i have to
Starting point is 00:58:17 work eight hours on saturday we need a union and it's like okay dude at this point i'm kind of just like take your cities you You can have them. I'm going to get away from the cities, move somewhere else and just try and succeed. And I encourage everyone else to do the same. I'm not saying abandon the political fight, quite the opposite. I'm saying make sure you are cleaning your room before you try to change the world, right? And then my attitude is your worst case scenario, if you get in shape, eat right, start working on yourself, is that if it all comes crumbling down, then you'll be all right. You'll be okay.
Starting point is 00:58:53 And the hipsters will be like, why can't we get avocado toast anymore? And you'll be like, because they're grown in Mexico in the winter and they ship them here. And now there's no energy because you're an idiot. You don't want to do any work. Fine. You don't get your avocados. I mean, man, look at this Twitter stuff. The Twitter meltdown.
Starting point is 00:59:09 They're like, I worked four hours a week and Elon doesn't want to pay me half a million dollars. And it's like, uh-huh. And? You know, I've said it before. If the American people knew how much money these like New York media people were getting paid for as little work as they're doing, there would be a revolution overnight. Working class people in this country do not understand. You walk into that Google office, these people are all six figures, and they do nothing. There's like, I'm watching people like sit there drinking coffee, reading a
Starting point is 00:59:41 book. I used to go there and you know, I'd be invited because people I know there drinking coffee, reading a book. I used to go there and, you know, I'd be invited because people, I know people at Google, I'd be in their cafeteria. I'm like, so what is it these people are doing? It's remarkable to me that when I worked for, I worked at O'Hare, I'm lifting 50,000 pounds of luggage every day for 10 bucks an hour, struggling to make ends meet, couldn't afford it. And then when I walked in that vice office for the first time, I just started laughing. I was like, where is everybody? Like, they work from home. What? They publish like one article per week. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:00:10 I want to go work in vice. One article a week? Well, they're laying people off now. Yeah. There was a TikTok video that went viral a couple months ago. Was it a weeks ago? Inside Twitter?
Starting point is 01:00:21 No, it wasn't about Twitter. It was about LinkedIn. Yeah, right. Where the woman is like, here's a day Twitter. It was about LinkedIn. Yeah, right. Where the woman's like, here's a day in the life of a 23-year-old,
Starting point is 01:00:29 whatever, at LinkedIn. And all she seemed to do was sit around and eat snacks. We were talking about the journalist yesterday. He was driving a Ferrari in a $5 million mansion. Porsche.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Porsche, excuse me. Yeah, yeah. Got the difference there. Come on, Lewis. What's going on? Listen, ha. It's still ridiculous. chin and we're like porsche porsche excuse me yeah i got the difference there come on lewis listen huh it's it's still ridiculous and and again there there is so much of of these people that take so much for granted they're so entitled and we're so lucky to even be born in the united states when we compare how we live to how the rest of the world lives there's a big difference if you travel the world you see see it and it's shocking it's terrifying and to see people take
Starting point is 01:01:09 advantage of that and to see people just not want to work hard in this situation not take all the opportunities presented to them is just mind-boggling to me personally at least but uh yeah aha i would never want to be advice ever they're're pod people. Yeah. They're pod people. They're NPCs. Like, look, good times make weak men. You got a lot of people who were born into the peak of American gluttony. They do no work. They never had to work. They never had hardship.
Starting point is 01:01:38 And now they're thrust into the world. And I mean, we weren't, look, we used to say that these woke people got out of college. They're in for a rude awakening. We were half right. Most of them were in for a rude awakening, got really angry and now are voting to make the world like their daycare campus. But we're also seeing funny videos of people being like,
Starting point is 01:01:56 they scheduled me for eight hours on the weekend. I need a union. That's a great one. Eight hours on the weekend. Oh, heaven's me. Wow, you have to lift a rock. To Lewis's point, like both of my this is horrible i don't know why we started this but like i mean i know you have a similar story but both of my parents are immigrants and i remember
Starting point is 01:02:14 asking my dad once do you ever wish that you know he had opportunity to move back and then before they had kids and i remember asking him like do you do you ever wish that i had your accent do you ever wish i was more in touch with that part of our culture and he was like no we knew it was a dying country like we left so you would have opportunities that we did not think you would have in the UK like that was more important and I think that that is a perspective that so many people don't have like they assume that things will always continue to get better and better. And when they're faced with challenges, they aren't willing to think critically about the sacrifices that have been
Starting point is 01:02:50 made for them or that they need to make for their future. Yeah. Hila is absolutely right. There's a reason people in Poland literally have their own Jaukas. Jaukas, they're called little plots of land that they have outside of their major apartment buildings where they just grow their own food. They also preserve their own food, can their own food. And growing up in Poland, it was routine during winter. Oh, yeah,
Starting point is 01:03:12 we make reserves and we have reserves that we could eat. So we don't have to rely on the communist centralized government force that will give you a piece of paper, allowing you a certain allowance of bread, of meat that you were given as a ration that everyone was allowed to have, which is absolutely crazy. You would have your own by being prepared. And I think with the government here becoming more centralized, that's something that more and more people need to realize that at the end of the day, you are only responsible for yourself, especially when it comes to the larger crap storm coming our way that the government is creating. Well, I feel like you're, Leonardard's right you're responsible for yourself but also you're responsible
Starting point is 01:03:47 for your progeny and your family in your immediate community like you choose who you interact with day to day and the impact that you have on them like don't trust the government to make things better for you that's what i don't understand about people coming out of college who are just waiting for someone to fix their problems like that's never realistic. I don't know what experience you had in life that made you feel that way. It was crazy when I was working for a company. I had somebody fresh out of college, first job. And they were telling me,
Starting point is 01:04:17 I don't know how to do this task. Someone needs to tell me how to do it. And my response was, well, just figure it out. And they're like, what do you mean just figure? I need to be told what to do. And I was like, take the time to figure out how to do it. And my response was, well, just figure it out. And they're like, what do you mean just figure I need to be told what to do? And I was like, take the time to figure out how to operate the system. And then I had to explain to them. I was like, if someone else knew how to do it, they wouldn't have hired you to do it. But I get it. In college, you have a professor who tells you how to do things. That's not how it works here.
Starting point is 01:04:43 You're hired because nobody knows how to do it, and it's your job to figure it out. Surprise, surprise, these people struggle. They can't make it. I think they're living in a myth. There's something called the Whig interpretation of history that you may have heard of, and it does rely on this belief system that things are always progressing
Starting point is 01:04:59 forward in an upward and onward direction. So we have more technology, we have more freedom whatever that is supposed to mean under a certain circumstance but because we have more of stuff therefore everything else about society must be better and it's i think right bunk i i i talk about this too people are like this is the first generation where we're worse off than our parents and i was like i don't know if that's, because my parents didn't have cell phones when they were younger. They didn't have access to the summation of human knowledge. They couldn't argue with strangers and look at pictures of cats,
Starting point is 01:05:31 you know, for better or for worse. And it was even really difficult to get TVs, you know, very expensive. So if you wanted to go out Friday night with, you know, grab drinks with your friends, like good luck, try calling on a phone, leaving a message, otherwise nothing. So we do have a lot more luxuries that they that they didn't have now that being said because of these things good luck getting a job if you don't have a cell phone so now it's a necessity you it may be benefit beneficial to you which means we may have better things but we we don't have the excess cash to start families so you know the things you own end up owning you but let's talk about colleges i want to talk about the story we got here from Daily Mail.
Starting point is 01:06:07 University of California Santa Barbara's Black Student Union holds free Black Panther Wakanda Forever screening but asks white students not to attend. Ah, yes. This is what they mean by diversity. Racial segregation. There's another article from the Philadelphia Inquirer that was talking about the writer was Mexican. And he was saying how, you know, he didn't understand Black Panther and what it meant for the black community, seeing an African country that wasn't devastated by colonization. And then he was like, and then I saw just thinking, like, these woke people, their view of what is good in terms of racial ideology is stereotypes of races, totally segregated, and fighting with each other. That was the craziest thing. Like, Black Panther, have you seen it?
Starting point is 01:06:59 Oh, hell no. Well, why not? Thank you. Why not? I love comic books. I like Namor, by the way, so I have no interest in... Namor. Is that how it's pronounced now?
Starting point is 01:07:08 Uh-huh. Okay, well, not for my entire life of reading Marvel comics, but whatever. I don't think I'm supposed to roll the R, but... Well, I don't know. They've changed it. And so, exactly, I have no... I mean, my character's got an I'm Not Daredevil shirt, which is not from a particularly good run on Daredevil by Mark Waid, but I have no interest in modern comics because they
Starting point is 01:07:24 have no interest in me comics because they have no interest in me but what what don't you like about black panther i thought the first movie was okay yeah but it was like it was it was like it was crazy it was a good i it was a good movie but i just i don't i don't watch any of this stuff anymore was a wakanda first closed right which was bizarre that they did make him a youandan nationalist. I'm going to spoil it. I mean, I've already spoiled it a million times. But you see, this is judging a book by its cover. Wakanda Forever, the point I'm making about how racist this is, is a movie quite literally about the most powerful nation on Earth, so says Queen Ramonda, with a powerful barrier around their country that no one can breach.
Starting point is 01:08:01 And a Mexican guy breaks in by crossing a river. Oh, I watched your video about it earlier. And I've heard some other people talk about it so i i'm aware of what happens in the film and they're cheering for it they're like this is the greatest movie and it's funny because we had dave landau here and when we were talking about it before the show and i explained it's a mexican guy and his back you know as he climbs out of the river is wet and then i said how do you think they defeat him and And he goes, do they dry him off? And I was like, yes, yes. And he was like, so it's the greatest movie ever.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Right. Yeah. Stereotypes are a simple way of understanding the world and that it's also something called a cognitive heuristic. We all rely on cognitive heuristics as mental shortcuts. So, for example, if you see a stick in the grass, we have evolved to very quickly make a snap judgment to decide if that see a stick in the grass, we have evolved to very quickly make a snap judgment to decide if that is a stick in the grass or a snake. It reduces cognitive load
Starting point is 01:08:51 to rely upon stereotypes. It literally means you have to think less. You expend less mental energy. So people like stereotypes for that reason. So I think that maybe in some way, they're just like, oh, I don't have to, I can turn my brain off even more during this Marvel movie than I usually would because I can just rely upon stereotypes about other people. Now, now that we've entertained that and we talked about it before, I have this story from IndieWire. John Leguizamo calls out non-diverse Super Mario Brothers casting. It's going backwards.
Starting point is 01:09:20 For them to go backwards and not cast another actor of color kind of sucks Leguizamo, who starred in the 1993 live action version of the upcoming animated movie. Let me just explain this very simply. Mario and Luigi are two white plumbers. John Leguizamo is angry that two white guys were cast to play as white plumbers. This is the extent of wokeness in culture. It sounds like they're making the far-right position or argument that Italians aren't white. That's what I was thinking, too.
Starting point is 01:09:51 That's really weird. It is bizarre. It's news to the white Italians. I've seen that. Very far-right people will say because of proximity to Africa that Italians aren't really white. If that's what you're saying,
Starting point is 01:10:04 then I mean, okay, well, you and spencer can be buddies but here's here's the thing you want to know what this is really about john leguizamo played luigi in 1993 right and he wants to play luigi now it's a big role it's big money and he's mad they're not casting him so he makes it about race and says it's going backwards bro if the argument is that people should only play characters that are their race then you should be happy that white actors were cast to play white characters the the concern was when you had black characters voiced by white people no apparently now the concern is for the entire time all these people ever really cared about was empowering themselves and making money as the only person of color here in this room i think it's i think every studio should follow
Starting point is 01:10:49 netflix's uh protocol and make you know all the characters uh as diverse as they possibly can no matter how ridiculous or absurd it is and the memes are absolutely hilarious too when it comes to the toast meme the the book says they cut the white bread and it's a piece of black bread i tweeted that one today too uh but but yeah this is just just people going crazy i think this is just something highlighting our our mental health decline i think a lot of people aren't well i think this is a perfect example of it and i think this kind of uh regurgitation of nonsense is just becoming more and more normalized. And there's some woke companies that actually follow these principles, which is absolutely absurd.
Starting point is 01:11:29 It's stupid. It's discriminatory. It's racist. It's ridiculous. I mean, I think part of it is that the implication is that white people are meant to be secondary or replaceable. I think part of it is, you know, to compensate. When I was in college, what I heard regularly was that because white people have traditionally held institutions of power, it's not even that you need to have representation, you need to have over-representation to compensate, right? So we can't have white Italian plumbers because they should have always been diverse to make up for the fact. Like, it's such a trap. And at the end of it, you just hear that white culture is not real and fake.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Like, I am sure you could get an Italian actor. What was the mayor of LA? He was like, I am diverse because I am Italian. I identify with the Latino community. Like, excuse me? What? Like, there is such an interest in divorcing yourself from Western European culture
Starting point is 01:12:28 if you can grab at some kind of power. And I think that's because we're repeatedly told that it's supposed to be a race. We're not supposed to see it anymore. You make up for wrongs from the past. Yes, and that's where you get the Rachel Dolezals, right? Of, I'm going to essentially, you know, play at a minstrel
Starting point is 01:12:46 show because this is how I gain institutional power by pretending that I'm anything but white. Like Talcum X. And Talcum X, yes. Or Luke. Well, hey, hey, I'm officially recognized. I got the paperwork to prove it, but watch out, Tim. From where? Where did you get paperwork?
Starting point is 01:13:01 Slavic people are people of color, you know that? Right, I do, yes. Listen here, Helen Clare. Don't you challenge me. I'm just saying, this is getting great. Leroy. That's racist. As completely the non-minority in this room, I'm just going to say it.
Starting point is 01:13:15 You're the whitest person in this room. At most times. You should not have a voice here. I don't know what Serge is doing over there. Serge is African. That's true. He's second in line, and I speak first. As the dominant
Starting point is 01:13:26 white voice in this room. No, I'm just kidding. But I mean, I think this is this strange white guilt that we see cultivated that it's, it's like he thinks
Starting point is 01:13:36 someone will clap him on the back. He'll get this media write up because, I mean, I don't know, maybe this guy is super relevant.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Maybe we hear from him all the time. Not recently. Right. So the only time he surfaces when he can denounce casting white people like that seems like a weird yeah it seems terrible well who's who's gonna um say anything against him in the mainstream media nobody this is he just he'll just get applauded for this that's the main issue he worries about
Starting point is 01:13:59 how privileged does he have to be how how lucky does he have to be to live in a world where this is his major issue this is what he decides to to rally behind there's so much economic inequality there's so much horrible things happening with our health there's so much corruption within our political system there's so many multinational corporations and big banks screwing everyone over and this is what your main issue is come on man i wonder what compelled him to star in The Pest. You ever see that movie? No, I haven't. Nobody knows that reference?
Starting point is 01:14:28 Mm-mm. Oh, man. It's more movie buffs. I would say, to counter your point, though, Luke, just a little bit. Media and culture do actually matter, which is why it's cool that you guys are doing so much of what you are doing. And I think that they're aware of that. And that's why he made the comment that he did, because he is aware on some level that
Starting point is 01:14:44 media and culture does matter and so he has to make his weird virtue signaling statement I'm bringing up this movie as kind of a dig against him because like if he wants to act out I'm going to mention that he starred in the film The Pest which is
Starting point is 01:14:59 like a really really bad late 90s movie that cost 8 million dollars and only made 3.6 so what's the plot? um man i don't remember what's the diverse though i guess he's like did he take a spot away from my he gets yeah that's that is the operative question he gets hunted for sport or something because he's white that would be that would be like you could make that yeah today that would be the funny thing is like apparently there's this this issue because he claims he's puerto rican john leguizamo but his dad came out he's like he's colombian okay well there was a movie about that i thought that came out about a white family being hunted not that long ago there was that actually it was
Starting point is 01:15:38 really good uh the hunt was that it yeah like everyone thought the movie was explicitly just like conservatives being hunted. Oh, yeah. The film was actually a bit more nuanced than that and actually was pretty good. Yeah, I didn't see it. The liberals were the bad guys. Oh, okay. Yeah, like outright just really stupid and evil.
Starting point is 01:15:56 And they end up, I'll spoil it for everybody because. I think it's been out for a few years. It's probably okay. So the trailer made it seem like conservatives get hunted by liberals you watch the film the liberals are clearly the villains and they kidnap incorrectly some woman because they had bad information so not only were they evil for trying to hunt and kill like middle americans who just have to be conservative the main character happens to have been incorrectly kidnapped and they try murdering her. And then in the end, even though the woman knows,
Starting point is 01:16:29 like, whoops, you're trying to kill an innocent person, the liberal woman still wants to. So it's like, they're outright just the bad guys. So I was like, actually, you know. Do you think the people who saw that movie were able to catch on to the message? They're explicitly the bad guys. It's like, she's a woman.
Starting point is 01:16:43 That doesn't necessarily mean people understood it, unfortunately. So it she heard her friends i mean i think it was well done her they're having a text group and then someone posts a joke about eating babies or something and then it gets leaked and then a conspiracy theory forms about it so they decide they're going to murder they're going to kidnap and murder anyone who believes the conspiracy they end up grabbing a woman of the same name as someone else online she's totally innocent and has nothing to do with anything it's not political at all and then she ends up killing them all so like i think it was actually well done she's like you got the wrong person i don't care about any of this she's like i just want to go home but you know i thought it was uh i actually thought it was maybe the criticism still stands that like
Starting point is 01:17:21 at a time when there's this much political division we shouldn't put out movies that are like that but it was not a movie where the message overtly was haha go hunt and kill conservatives but that's what the trailer made it look like so maybe they could have done a better job right yeah maybe john legozamo could act in part two of that there you go here's a job for you yeah but they got everyone talking about it so they got everyone right no they canceled it remember though like they yeah they they pulled it and then then later on they said okay we're gonna bring the movie back yeah i didn't remember that part of it i remember hearing about it even trump was tweeting about it what better way to promote a movie than have the president of the united states tweet at it well
Starting point is 01:17:56 now he can't do that anymore so is the verb truth he truths he truths i believe yeah why did he not name it trumpet it originally was going to be September 27th, and then they said they were canceling it, and then later they brought it back March 13th. Yeah. Yeah, it made money. $14 million budget, $42.8 million revenue. Well, yeah, again, the tactic worked then,
Starting point is 01:18:18 for one reason or another. Yeah. There you go. Anyway. Bit of an aside. Yeah, it's an aside. Watch the movie. There you go anyway a bit of an aside yeah it's an aside uh watch the movie there you go what other movies should we watch you've recommended um going into the weekend what are your recommendations going into the weekend uh it's it's it's uh wakanda forever obviously because it's funny how the woke people are like yay this would be so good and i'm like this movie is like super yeah it's it's but but like so the first problem with the first one with the first the
Starting point is 01:18:49 first but it was the first one was a a patriarchal ultra-nationalist country ethnocentric now ethno ethno-nationalist in order to rule you had to win trial by combat and be a man. Women weren't allowed to rule. And then the villain was basically an ethno-supremacist who wanted to use the superior weapon to take over the world
Starting point is 01:19:13 for their race. That's an interesting narrative. It was. The good guy was Trump. The bad guy was Hitler. And then you have part two where this powerful nation wants to mind its own business
Starting point is 01:19:24 and then Mexicans are crossing through the river into the country wreaking havoc. I'm like, who are they making this movie for? Who is the writer for this movie? I need to know. Who is sitting there like, uh-huh. Okay. And what should we do next? Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:37 We shouldn't have Namor be Atlantean because of copyright issues. Let's have him be Mexican. And then he breaks into Wakanda, for some reason, a landlocked nation, by crossing the river. That's a border wall. I don't know what it is. Oh, that's funny. It was over copyright reasons that he couldn't be from Atlantis. I guess the issue was Brett from Pop Culture Crisis was telling
Starting point is 01:19:56 me this, that they didn't want to pay the original creator or his estate. So by substantively changing Namor to Namor, which was he was the child without love. Right. So in Spanish, he was like my enemies call changing Namor to Namor, which was, he was the child without love. Right. So in Spanish, she was like, my enemies call me Namor. Oh.
Starting point is 01:20:10 It's like, okay, dude, no, your enemies don't call you that. One guy called you that 500 years ago. You're cringing over there. Yeah, that's all. I didn't understand. I didn't know about that part. But this is why I don't watch these movies. And I don't watch, I don't watch Lord of, what is it?
Starting point is 01:20:22 Rings of Power. I will watch other people on YouTube do five hour long reviews of them, for sure. Because I find that entertaining. I have to imagine, though, with like Black Panther, you'll end up with white identitarians and the woke identitarians sitting in the theater together cheering for the same messages. I saw that with the first one on 4chan. When the first one came out, there were people, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:47 the people who self-identify as Nazis being like, oh, we love this. This is great. We've got this ultra-nationalistic movie. Great. And they're all cheering for it
Starting point is 01:20:53 and they love it. Yes. And then they're doing that University of California, Santa Barbara is doing a black-only screen. There could be some, like, CIA reverse psychology here
Starting point is 01:21:03 because if you look at a lot of mainline movies, it's usually going against the big evil government or the multinational corporation or some kind of evil villain that wants to reduce the Earth's population for the greater good. I think there might be some kind of psyops here,
Starting point is 01:21:17 just again, speculating here totally out of nowhere, of them just being like, we're going to put this in your head just so you don't see it in real life, potentially. I think there's something to think about that. What are they trying to put in your head? Or they're trying to put that satisfaction of rebellion in your head
Starting point is 01:21:35 so it doesn't come to fruition in real life. I'll give you an example. Because that's V for Vendetta. All the movies are like this. There's a show, we talked about this on a members only show. The Matrix 2. There's a show called The Good Fight.
Starting point is 01:21:46 They did an episode. I think it was the finale. Where a character based on Milo Yiannopoulos accuses Ron DeSantis by name of sexual assault. And in the show, they are saying over and over again, Ron DeSantis is accused. And here's what the guy's saying. And I thought it was interesting. So we Googled Ron DeSantis, The Good Fight fight and what do you find it's so weird ron desantis has many interviews where he says i'm going to keep fighting the good fight it just so happens a show called
Starting point is 01:22:15 the good fight comes out where ron desantis is accused of sexual assault so what happens now when you google search ron desantis the good fight what a vile psyop you see posts about sexual assault yeah and so maybe it's all just one big coincidence but man was that very perfect yeah that wasn't the craziest aspect of the entire episode at the end donald trump runs to be president of the united states and the whole and this is before he announced but the whole premise of the episode is a terrorist attack by right-wingers that are surrounding this black lawyer firm. There's 20,000 of them outside, and then they stage an attack on them that's going to assassinate
Starting point is 01:22:52 all of them as they're shooting machine guns into their building. And that was actually happening in the show. That's the plot of the show. The plot of the show is that they're working, and they wore the same outfits as the Patriot Front and there's 20,000 of them outside in Chicago causing riots everywhere. And then they stage an attack where they make sure that they block all the exits
Starting point is 01:23:14 and then they go on the roof and start shooting and trying to assassinate all the children and workers inside of this predominantly all-black lawyer office. What year is this supposed to be taking place in? This is the last episode of this series that came out. And it's the same episode as the DeSantis episode. Right, I know. Are these episodes standalone?
Starting point is 01:23:34 I have no idea. Like, is it an anthology show where every episode is its own contained little mini-film? I think it's a series that continues along the same kind of premise. How do you do a season after that? I think that was their season finale. I know but like the start of the next season is like so after like civil war started i think it's during a civil war anyway my point is i think they do these things in media uh because like there's that famous line from tina fey where she said i can see
Starting point is 01:24:01 russia from my house and then what happened was a bunch of liberals started saying, Sarah Palin said she can see Russia from her house. No, that was Tina Fey. Sarah Palin said, actually, from the westernmost point of Alaska, you can see Russian territory. We have to negotiate with Russia because of the straight and trade routes, which is actually an excellent point when you're running for office and explaining that you have to negotiate with Russia now. And then Tina Fey made fun of her in a way that made no sense. And now these people believe that was the actual quote. So it's called the primacy effect in terms of whatever people see first
Starting point is 01:24:32 is what they tend to believe. And when you have mass media versus some news, individual news report, people believe what they see first and tend to hold on to that information even after it has been corrected. So one of the like really, I guess if you want to go along with all of the beliefs about how bad fake news is,
Starting point is 01:24:50 the real problem with fake news, such as it does exist, is that it doesn't matter. There's several studies on this. It doesn't matter if you update the news article. People will remember what they read first. There's a competing theory called the recency effect that people will remember whatever they heard most recently. However, it has far less robust support within the data. The primacy effect is what we see very consistently. Very consistently, excuse me. That whatever people hear first or see first sticks within their mind, and that's what they recall.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Yep. So, yeah. Is there like an emotional bond because of that first initial reaction? It could, there could be an emotional aspect to it, but it's more that people are just taking information, going, okay, this is interesting or funny. And if you make it funny, by the way, it's called instructional humor processing theory. And what that finds is that if you're trying to teach something, teach something to anybody, make it funny because it increases recall. I love the conspiracy theory that the government funds movies to block conspiracy theories
Starting point is 01:25:48 like Men in Black, for instance. The conspiracy theory is that Men in Black are real, so they make a movie about it that's very exaggerated and silly. So that way, if anyone ever says, I was visited by Men in Black, they go, like the movie? Oh, come on. That's an episode of Stargate SG-1, like that wormhole extreme. Right, right, right. We actually had Coronemic here last week. was super cool we talked about it so uh actually the episode of cast
Starting point is 01:26:08 castle we did was ian is convinced that corinne is actually jonas quinn okay and then that's that's basically the premise it's like it was funny because when we were writing it i was like that's actually an episode of stargate sg1 wormhole Extreme is a TV show. Because like this, yeah, anyway. And Supernatural. That was a plot line in Supernatural where God was actually sending divine messages to some kooky guy who wrote books about the actual characters in the show and et cetera, et cetera. So several shows have played with this theme. You were telling us about a lot of different theories that you were studying and looking into before we started the show.
Starting point is 01:26:44 What's one of the most interesting study that you looked into when it comes to psychology and our current kind of modern day society? That's such a massive question. I know, I know. I like to ask these questions. Well, my favorite ones are mostly deal with parasociality and studying of the Internet, how people form fake relationships that they feel are very real with people online. And this can also include characters from media, where because we didn't evolve in a mediated environment, it's very difficult for people to be able to delineate what is a real interaction from what is a fake or pseudo or parasocial interaction. I love that it's a whole broad field. But I the parasociality stuff, and particularly now when we have this constant interaction with Twitter
Starting point is 01:27:25 and people feel like they know Donald Trump or they feel like they know XYZ person, that can have some very harmful effects as well because, well, what if your internet friend doesn't respond in turn? And there's tons of research that's become very, very popular almost to the point of bringing it up as probably trite at this point, but it's cool. I've heard a lot of it uh referred to with uh family vloggers and oh yeah like the concept of
Starting point is 01:27:48 putting your kid in danger because people think they have a pair they have a parallel social relationship with your child who doesn't know anything about it because the concept of the internet is difficult when you're five the the idea of family vlogging is horrifying to me because you're putting a child out there and exposing them to this constant deluge of media exposure before they're able to form any kind of sense of self. Or consent. They certainly can't consent.
Starting point is 01:28:14 Yeah, human beings aren't built to be okay with social media. They aren't built to deal with so much attention, so much feedback, so much comment, so much interactions all at once. We used to be small tribes. That's what our body and mental state is used to being. And I think this is one reason why we're seeing such a huge increase of mental health. Well, the dopamine system is fried.
Starting point is 01:28:36 The dopamine system, it actually, the prolonged exposure to this kind of stuff constantly, day after day after day, it causes the parts of your brain that produce and regulate dopamine to become eventually unable to continue to produce it at the same level. So people become, just like any other addiction, they become addicted to the substance, in this case dopamine, hit a like, retweet on Twitter, that kind of thing. At some point, your brain cannot keep stimulating you and feeding you the positive feedback chemical that you want from it and then it actually physically shrinks in size your parts of your brain physically shrink in size because it cannot keep doing this but you also need more as your body is less able to provide it
Starting point is 01:29:14 can you like inject dopamine surely surely like i mean like not like yeah does it does it have the same effect i wouldn't i haven't read any studies on that, but I would assume so. That would probably be like the next big thing. Like adrenochrome? Yeah, you got to get the adrenochrome. But with meta, the proposal of meta and that VR stuff, it's now every single human sense is being stimulated. Your dopamine systems, the whole dopaminergic system is going to be fried for people.
Starting point is 01:29:42 And there's going to be no way for them to get the dopamine that they are so craving because their own body can't produce it anymore. And once your brain shrinks, there's no coming back. It can? Yeah, sure. So, like, is there a treatment for... Disconnect. Ah, no.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Well, it's the same thing with any other addiction, more or less. Well, also, there's also very negative effects, especially when it comes to online pornography. And I think also with things like TikTok becoming more and more popular, this is kind of the larger symptom of a society getting sicker and sicker, needing a quicker dopamine hit, needing a quicker fix, needing a quicker stimulation, just more and more uh quicker quicker quicker faster faster faster tiktok is completely exemplary of that in that it's five to ten seconds you get my stimulus and my output and i'm good to go and now next next next and it never stops yeah where do you see this going where where is society heading and and where's the crash well how does it look
Starting point is 01:30:43 like well in the experiments they did with rats, which is always a good way to start a sentence when you talk about the future of society. In the studies that have been done with rats, for example, they put an electrode in the pleasure center of the brain in rats and they gave them a little button and they could just sit there and push the button to stimulate the pleasure center of the brain.
Starting point is 01:31:03 They found that much as with the rat utopia experiment, after a while, they stopped eating, they stopped reproducing, they stopped having sex, they stopped cleaning themselves to the point where they would just sit there and press the button over and over again until they'd essentially die.
Starting point is 01:31:15 So there's the horrifying, there's the really horrifying potential future, but let's go meta, right? Thank goodness that company's failing. Thank goodness they're losing so much money. Don't go on the pods. Don't put on the VR set, please. Just imagine not knowing.
Starting point is 01:31:31 Accomplishment is what drives us, right? Getting more likes. We're feeling a connection to something happening, but it really is just that dopamine release. There's two forms of pleasure that exist. It's eudaimonia and hedonia. Hedonia is pure physical pleasure just a feeling good eudaimonia is a sense of meaningfulness and
Starting point is 01:31:50 that's what we're losing but so like i'm imagining if there was a button that could stimulate your brain you wouldn't know why it was good you would just be like this is great for some reason and just keep smashing the button it's called tiktok yeah it it is. That's it. But my point is, on TikTok, they do. They're like, I'm seeing someone dance. I'm seeing some social interaction. Yeah, but do they remember it when they get consumed
Starting point is 01:32:12 so much information so quickly? One thing after another thing after another thing. Do they really remember it? The recall is not the part of it that matters. It's the instantaneous dopaminergic stimulation.
Starting point is 01:32:24 And again, that's all the hedonia, the euda It's the instantaneous dopaminergic stimulation. And again, what's, what's, that's all the hedonia, the eudaimonia, which are things like, again, it's commonly called meaningfulness of a feeling of accomplishment, a feeling of having done something that's bigger than yourself.
Starting point is 01:32:36 I, when we look, there's longitudinal studies on human happiness and we find produces longitudinal human happiness is not pleasure. It's hedonia. It's having children. It's having not pleasure. It's hedonia. It's having children. It's having a home. It's raising a family.
Starting point is 01:32:48 It's having relationships, meaningful ones with other people. And that's not dopaminergically stimulating. We're going to go to super chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button? Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends and become a member at Timcast.com. I want to point out something really quick. Elon Musk's Twitter poll currently with 3.13 million votes. Donald Trump is winning his
Starting point is 01:33:10 election on Twitter with 58% to 42. And that is very significant because Twitter is more left wing than right wing. There are more leftist active users than right wing active users, according to tons of different studies and different data. This means there are a lot of people on there who are like, yeah, he shouldn't have been banned. So considering that fact, if y'all have Twitter, you should go on to Elon's account and vote for Trump to be reinstated. Someone pointed out that because of the size of Elon's audience, these polls are statistically significant or meaningful. It's statistically significant with 500 yeah but depending on depending on where it's it's it's hard to know if you're doing 500 people like where are you targeting and who are these people but with 3.1 million well with 116 million
Starting point is 01:33:57 total reach and 3.1 million you can take it take into consideration the current time of day, and then you can say it will likely be this region, United States. He just posted a few hours ago, so it's going to hit West Coast to East Coast. Might not hit, you know, well, actually, yeah, I think it'll hit the entirety, even Alaska and Hawaii. So it matters. All right, let's read some super chats. Knuckle Fist says Twitter runs on Amazon AWS. Elon doesn't want Parler. That's right.
Starting point is 01:34:29 Yeah, they'll get their servers nuked. What do we got here? OMG Puppy says we should be upset about Democrats blackmailing advertisers to bankrupt Twitter. Elon needs support and time to make changes. Now is not the time for perfection. Enemy of the good stuff. My point is I totally get all that, but why insult Alex Jones's fans? Why insult the, the, the, uh, culture warriors who believe in free speech? He could have just avoided the subject or he could have just been like, there's a lot more we have to work through before we unban
Starting point is 01:35:01 everybody. We'll see what happens. You know what I mean yamabushi says why do i even bother clicking notify on this show anymore youtube literally never lets me know when the show starts and uh technically every episode should be trending but uh you know that's just the way it goes has it ever trended like how long has it been i actually think we may have trended uh early on uh we were trending maybe a couple times and then you know we get political and then not so much anymore yeah that's how it goes yeah i got a notification today i will add though uh this this past month is the biggest month we've ever had in terms of viewership on this channel so that's cool yep jim bob says kathy did the bloody trumpet that is far worse than what alex did absolutely vile i won't back elon anymore over this tim this is all exhausting
Starting point is 01:35:53 i hear you but uh i don't think the answer is necessarily completely turn around that's why i was saying i'll pull back and be like okay okay okay hold on there a minute i'm willing to put some money into this twitter to see if he can get it right but and i understand the difficulty with alex jones but the too bad no uh i don't like that i don't like that at all it's it's all or nothing man raymond g stanley jr says crystal ball don't expect a billionaire to save you agreed yeped. Yep. Yep. Dreadmax says, if Twitter is predominantly lefties, how does Trump have a 62% favorable vote? Well, it's down to 58%, but yes, agreed. Good point.
Starting point is 01:36:37 Because they like Trump. He's funny. On Twitter, he was hilarious. Even if he was, you know, I brought up instructional humor processing theory, but there's also several theories of humor, which illustrate that you have to violate, it's called an expectancy violation. You have to say something unexpected or crazy or whatever to actually make people laugh. That's a big key element of humor. And if you can only say predictable things, then people won't laugh at it. And if that's what Elon thinks Twitter is about, it's being funny, which is what he
Starting point is 01:37:04 said. No Trump, no funny. Well, accurate information. That too, I guess, yeah. Waffle Sense, this is a very important question. Hannah Clare, did you finish Tokyo Drift yet? No. For those who don't know,
Starting point is 01:37:16 I have to watch all of the Fast and Furious movies. Not Tokyo Drift. I don't know. The agreement is I have to watch all of them. It turns out that's like 19 hours of my life. I've only watched two. This became a way to like- What kind of agreement is this?
Starting point is 01:37:29 It was like they had to get- To watch the greatest movie series ever. Yeah, it's Brett and Mary. That's who we're talking about. They forced you? They had to get to like 25 crisis parties in one show. Oh, yeah. And they managed that.
Starting point is 01:37:44 That's crazy. And now I have to invest a lot of time i have not watched tokyo drift i will do it eventually i actually don't watch a lot of movies so this is extremely hard i think i'm gonna have to watch them all in one weekend i i don't think you gotta watch tokyo drift because it's outside of the like the series but it loops back in the character does re-enter the franchise later a deal's a deal heidi don't let the people down liam you were never a part of this. Just calm down.
Starting point is 01:38:06 No, I feel like I have to honor it. Pop culture works really hard, and it's cool, I guess, that our fans are devoted enough to torture me. What I don't understand is that you guys are using real names. Like, at this point, just call them Lobless.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Hey. I said ha. Tom, you're not a part of this. Yeah, Tom. Get out of here, Tom. Whole lore. Theodore, you're not a part of this. Let's out of here tom whole lore theodore you're not a part of this get out of here hayden says jones put out a response video to elon saying not to bring him back jones
Starting point is 01:38:33 response was great i get it but i feel also feel like alex has to say that you know what you brought it up right luke like if he came out and he was like screw you elon like he's never coming back then you know. Old Stick Key Taint says voting for Trump's unbanning is a smart move. Force these advertisers to justify why they want to pull advertisements when the majority of their target audience wants him on. I think they've proven they're clearly ideological way past this point that money doesn't matter as much as the message. Well, and I would love if that was how it worked. You do the poll.
Starting point is 01:39:06 Trump's ahead. But didn't didn't we all just talk about the fact that Elon was like, these polls are not good because of the bots. Yeah. Like, we can't do this until the bots are purged. So really, Elon should be focusing on the one thing he needs to do, which is purge the bots. Larry made that point. Well, SC Federali says, where the F is Ian? Milo is self-absorbed. You guys drug Ian without a mic afterward.
Starting point is 01:39:27 Dirty. I knew I shouldn't sub. Give him a mic, friends. Who's Ian? Yeah, I never heard of him. I'm Ian now. Ian who? You mean Ian Clare?
Starting point is 01:39:37 Ian Clare. It's me. Ian Clare Brimelow? The thing is, Ian and I had this big fight in the parking lot, and I won, and I get the chair. Yeah, that's how it works. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, we have a boxing ring outside.
Starting point is 01:39:48 Poor guy's crying. Well, he needs to train more, you know? Yeah, I know. I've been trying. Speaking of that, Jeffrey Maxis, so happy to see Hannah Claire. Please have her on more. Oh, well, there you go. Tim, the poll is winning.
Starting point is 01:40:01 They want me back. Thank you so much. That's really nice. This is why the potato man's not here. He got beat. I'm a really good boxer. I want me back. Thank you so much. That's really nice. This is why the potato man's not here. He got beat. I'm a really good boxer. I don't know what to tell you guys. Yeah, I've been I've been training survival of the fittest.
Starting point is 01:40:13 Now, I actually love doing the show. It's been fun. And also, when you are on the news team, it's interesting to be here because every time like I'll watch the show in the room and be like, I know that article. Oh, I know who wrote that. It's like inside baseball, I guess. Stinky Whizzle Deets says, Elon's apparent indifference to censorship
Starting point is 01:40:31 wasn't really shocking. Now Jordan Peterson's tweets calling for it was truly shocking and depressing. Yeah, did you happen to see them? No, what did he say? He basically called for like a... Getting rid of the plebs and punishing the plebs and making sure that they can't troll people,
Starting point is 01:40:46 which is ridiculous. Yeah, it was really awful. He's like, I'm so tired of the... He said like the nasty, mean trolls on Twitter that are awful. It was very elitist. It was very elitist. I mean, the people at the Daily Wire
Starting point is 01:40:57 might be getting to him. And asking for, in return, what was done to him, which, you know, this is eye for an eye stuff that I don't think is the way you want to go with it, Jordan. Well, when he said consign the anonymous narcissists and psychopaths to troll hell. Yeah. That one? I think that's... If you're going to go after anyone, the most
Starting point is 01:41:13 vile people are the verified people. The big corporate media accounts are the leftists that call for people to die and show people's heads on a stake. Those are vile people. The anonymous people, they're not that bad compared to the the the really bad people out there chuck taylor says a special counsel was appointed today how is that not the lead story because so what a special counsel got appointed yeah for what reason trump had some classified documents and he had plenary
Starting point is 01:41:43 plenary declassification power? Waste of my time. Sorry. I don't know. Not to be dismissive. No, it's the same thing being repeated ad nauseum at this point. But it's like, it's not an impeachment. There's nothing substantive here.
Starting point is 01:41:58 The special counsel goes nowhere. It's a waste of everyone's time. Trump has the ability to classify whatever he wants. He apparently just had the folders anyway, which still are classified, but it's just like, do I care about this? He was the president. The story there is just, Trump declares bid for re-election, and they're like,
Starting point is 01:42:16 actually, we've really got to buckle down on this investigation that we've had for a year and a half. But again, is anyone surprised by that? No. Pinochet's helicopter tour says, Tim, it goes both ways. Elon can out every one of these corporations and advertisers subverting
Starting point is 01:42:31 the people's constitutional rights. ESG is to blame here. And he should. Didn't Elon say something about doing that? Making known every corporation or something that, you know. I think so. Maybe he did.
Starting point is 01:42:43 I don't know. Maybe someone else did. Yeah, I don't recall. But Elon, you know what i would do if a corporation was like we don't want these people on the platform but okay here's what i'll do for you i will take your company's logo and default it on the page of those people you don't like that's it yeah why not go you what is it? Isn't Yelp accused of doing something like that, where if you don't sign up, they'll put the negative reviews at the top?
Starting point is 01:43:10 Well, it's kind of just a ridiculous sort of demand in the first place, because it's like, I mean, would this happen on traditional media? As if like, oh, you have somebody on, or some show on that a corporation doesn't 100% agree with, so they're going to, they demand that that show, that that a corporation doesn't 100 agree with so they're gonna they demand that that show that person that episode be pulled i guess it does work sometimes but it's it's
Starting point is 01:43:31 a big ask and it depends i guess on the corporation i mean it didn't happen to carlson a bunch of his editors pulled out they did but but fox news didn't get rid of him and that was a lot of people i mean i'm just saying like it would be it would be as if there was one very special episode of, I don't know, pick Full House or something, where then somebody got canceled in the future and they hadn't yet pulled the episode. And then advertisers say we will not run our ads on whatever said network because of this thing that happened in the past. So Jim Bob says, Tim, would you kindly give me an ian crystal jim bob here's what i'll do i am going to write down jim bob and uh go to the latest members only videos comment that you would like an ian crystal i will then instruct the team to seek out your comment
Starting point is 01:44:22 reach out to you and then send you an ian crystal of course pending ian's approval to seek out your comment, reach out to you, and then send you an Ian crystal. Of course, pending Ian's approval to send out one of the crystals. I thought... Just don't lick it. I get to... Just don't lick it. Do I get to pick which one goes out? No, Ian probably will, I guess.
Starting point is 01:44:35 They're his, so... Well, fair. Technically, I got them out of a big barrel at... Where were we? Yeah, no stealing, Harley. We had some gorge in West Virginia. It was really cool. A new river?
Starting point is 01:44:45 Maybe. New rivers with a huge bridge. No, no stealing, Harley. We had some gorge in West Virginia. It was really cool. New River? Maybe. New River's with a huge bridge. No, no, there's no huge bridge. I can't remember what it was. But there was like a little shop and they had a barrel full of rocks. And I was like, oh, Ian likes rocks. So I filled a bag up of rocks, bought them. And then Ian was like, oh, cool, rocks.
Starting point is 01:44:59 It was great. Someone dressed up as Ian in our office for Halloween and walked up to me and handed me a crystal. And I was like, it's happening okay david toronto says couldn't pay me 20 grand to go see taylor swift well then i won't i i i don't i don't know david i mean come on it's like a couple hours it's a lot of money yeah like sit there for a couple hours that's my favorite tweets were the ones that was like the taylor swift you wanted ticket you wanted so badly was just bought by some dad who's only heard of her like one song yeah that's true runaway 25 production says carl sagan's i have a foreboding a foreboding called all of this for what he foreboding feeling especially the low iq stuff you ever see that that speech he gave
Starting point is 01:45:42 where he talked about the future and like what was going to happen and now he's like just talking about pleasure and stuff and how people are going to get sucked in and something like that it's been a while since i saw it it's kind of like a sort of like an idiocracy take almost heron gaming news says i live with a mild cognitively delayed i'm i miss out on my formative years due to a tumor. It's frustrating trying to learn and people think I can't when I just need extra help. Bummer. Yeah, I can relate. Mr. McJones says, it's called the baby still face experiment.
Starting point is 01:46:12 Man, it's horrifying though. You know, those babies were freaking out. Imagine what it was like to have your kid in a mask, not seeing anyone's face, not knowing how to develop socially for what, two years or what? Nearly three. Nearly three years depends it depends on how personally devoted to the cause
Starting point is 01:46:30 the parent was right because and i'd argue the area that you live in right it's not just the parents the parents face is really important for expression but uh presumably missing out interacting with other children absolutely not developing a lot of social skills which you know children need stimulation and interestingly enough then as you brought up which is interesting the the area the brain drain such as it is is going to be most severe in the left-leaning liberal areas jd jones says trump poll looks like a bot test to see if he solved that problem interesting what if you know when he tweeted we shouldn't go to war with you we shouldn't be at war with russia or whatever
Starting point is 01:47:03 and then he saw everyone was like, yes, we should. He said, OK, there's bots. Maybe he did something behind the scenes, does this poll, and now it's pro-Trump. And he's like, those are the real people. Yeah, but he would be talking about what he did. No, he wouldn't. But now anyone paying attention is like, hey, he said there's a whole bunch of bots on here that are messing up the polls.
Starting point is 01:47:23 Now he's running a poll. At least we're speculating he's gonna need like it's his own words he's not gonna come out and say hey guys i'm tricking you no yeah that would ruin the experiment obviously yeah do you know how he caught the leaker from tesla do you see this viral video no how uh like in 2008 somebody was leaking yeah somebody was leaking uh emails and information from tesla so what he did was they sent out a company-wide email. And then in actuality, everyone got an individualized email with a double space randomly placed somewhere in the email.
Starting point is 01:47:53 So they thought it was a company-wide email. They all looked the same. Then they waited for the email to leak, saw where the double space was, and knew exactly who had received that email. So he plays games like he does these experiments. He's not going to tell you what he's doing. Maybe later he will, but it's possible. He's going to have to post a video or he's holding like his phone up with
Starting point is 01:48:14 the date and time before he puts the poll up being like, this is a test. I can prove it. Well, right. If you are doing a data manipulation or you're doing it, you're conducting a natural experiment. You can't let your subjects know that you're conducting an experiment well i mean when you sign up to take a study at or do research at a university you have to sign off and say yes i know i'm doing this blah blah blah but you don't in fact a lot of times when we do studies we'll intentionally throw in bogus variables um so to lead the participant to think that we're studying something that we're not studying so that they get confused and think it's about that. I'll give you an example.
Starting point is 01:48:46 There's a really funny video I watched a long time ago where somebody, they bring people into a room and they tell them, you're going to do a study, so fill out this paperwork. While they're filling out the paperwork, they blow smoke under the door. And then the people think that you have to trick the person. If you told them we're doing a fire repair and a study, they'd be like, okay, it would change their reaction. The funny thing is,
Starting point is 01:49:09 when they would blow the smoke under the door and it was just one person by themselves, they would go to the door, feel it, feel the knob, and then start yelling, there's a fire, there's a fire, something's going on. When they put three people in the room and blow smoke under the door, people would see the smoke, look at each other,
Starting point is 01:49:24 and then go back to writing their papers. Yep. They're looking for social feedback. Yeah. That's that same thing with the citation is escaping me right now, but where they basically found that if someone is killed in front of you, unless one person elects to decide to go help, the other people will just kind of stand there and let it happen. The other thing too, is little kids, if they fall, usually they don't cry. I've heard this. If you have a little kid and they get hurt, you don't act panic or worried. You laugh and say, oh, you fell. Because if you go, oh no, oh no, then they start crying, like something bad happened. I mean, this was sort of a popular trend on, I think, TikTok for a
Starting point is 01:50:01 little while. Parents would be like holding their kid and walk through a doorway and like hit it with their hand. And the kid couldn't see it. And they'd be like, oh my gosh, are you okay? And the baby would start crying. The baby did not hit the door, but the baby is taking the feedback from you that it has gotten hurt. That's creepy. Like, you shouldn't do that on TikTok for that.
Starting point is 01:50:18 You don't want to experiment on children for social media? No. I don't understand, Tom. Oh, what could go wrong? Dave's Kitchen Corner says there was an episode of The Orville where they visited a planet where they would upvote, downvote people. Anyone that got 10 million downvotes was imprisoned. Not a good direction to go.
Starting point is 01:50:34 And in a society like that, nobody would want to be famous. That was a Black Mirror episode as well where it was the, you had a social credit score and at some point she couldn't like rent a car or do anything. We're heading there. Coming soon to the United States. That's why they ban people.
Starting point is 01:50:50 I mean, Alex Jones, his social credit score is like zero. And that's what happens. Granted, there's only so much you can do because that dude's famous. Like, I really don't see a scenario ever where Alex Jones will be destitute. Yeah. He may not be as rich as he once was, you know.
Starting point is 01:51:07 Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, that would be a great cop show. Lewis and Ha. I'm excited. Let's do it. Outdoors with the Morgans says, when it crumbles, I will trade lumber and firewood for eggs. Bought land in West Virginia for the same
Starting point is 01:51:22 reasons as you. If you come visit, password to the high ground compound is it's Tim, don't shoot, LOL. I'll remember that password, but I think everybody else will too. Some like super tall fat guy is going to be like, it's Tim, don't shoot. You're like, okay, hey Tim, come on in. What do we got?
Starting point is 01:51:43 People mentioning Elon polling Trump's rein reinstatement we'll just remind everybody that so you can go vote on it flutz q says you should rename chicken city to sugma cocktown it's an anagram for censorship uh-huh sugma i found 182 acres i think it was for like 200 grand or something oh wow yeah so we Yeah, so we can make the Ligma Johnson Woodland Preserve. Ligma Johnson Woodland Preserve. Preservation. Woodland. That would be sweet.
Starting point is 01:52:11 Not too far away. It's like probably two hours west of Washington, D.C. or Baltimore. And then, you know, people can hang out in the lush greenery of Ligma Johnson. That would be great. So would you keep your campaign going in Scotland or would you like reserve well we don't really care about the scotland thing that's like we have a sponsor
Starting point is 01:52:28 yeah and it would be funny if there was a lord ligma johnson who for some reason owned 50 000 square feet in scotland but if we actually get this plot of land we can create a public park preserve you know called ligma johnson ligma johnson wood. Yeah, Lake Titicaca and, you know, the Seymour. Lake Balzania. Seymour Butts Trail. But yes, we should name everything that, but we'll put up a sign saying Lake Balzania, you know. Work with children.
Starting point is 01:52:58 Right? Seymour Butts. It's called intellectuals. B-U-T-T-E-S. Sure it is, Lee. Calm down. Steve Jones says, freedom from consequences is BS.
Starting point is 01:53:08 The idea of the First Amendment is to exercise it without consequence. Yep. Right, as long as you're not... That's free speech. Yes, even the yelling fire in a crowded movie theater thing is largely a myth.
Starting point is 01:53:21 It is, yep. Casey Dennison says, Namor is based in the comics friends with spider-man and dr doom interesting moral and philosophical in the comics yeah he also just like doesn't care about anybody's feelings whatsoever he is pretty based and he has he has wings on his feet yeah wings that that actually really did like that when he was the fight scenes in wakanda forever it was cool how they had him like he was basically jumping on the air that part accurate how interesting is that what it's like in the comics how he flies or whatever yeah he's got little wings on his feet it's cute he doesn't
Starting point is 01:53:51 he doesn't fly up he like jumps on the air basically oh yeah it was cool again just interesting what they are able to leave in i guess for copyright reasons wings on his feet people were complaining i guess said the actor was a dad bod hero or something i don't know the weird thing is they were like the the fact that in this article from the from the inquirer they're cheering for for namor in this movie he's an outright villain he's like a he's a genocidal maniac who wants to murder everybody he's basically killmonger and they're like he's an anti-hero no he's a bad guy he invades wakanda for no reason and the funny thing is wakanda is a landlocked nation so like why did he go there and how did he get there he's like in mexico and he can swim just there like really
Starting point is 01:54:37 quick i guess they ride whales that's the other thing oh right you don't ask questions just consume product and get excited for next product. Is that how the comics were? Like, did they make more sense? Yeah. Because I feel like I don't really watch all the stuff too intensely. He's the king of Atlantis. But he really wants that landlocked country.
Starting point is 01:54:56 No. This is just stuff that's made up. The Marvel movies are almost all just completely novel stuff that they've made up for the films. They're not really generally. Some of them are more based on the comics, like the Infinity War stuff. But other than that, or Civil War, it tends to be largely independent. And do you watch them or do you skip them all? No, not anymore.
Starting point is 01:55:18 I watched them in 2006 or whatever. 2008 was, I think, when they started the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And I watched them for a couple years, but not anymore. I have no more interest in it. You had to renounce it? They're just like,
Starting point is 01:55:31 it's gone off the rails for me? The last thing, the She-Hulk show messed with my boy Daredevil. He's the only character I really care about. And even then, it's just enough for me to go,
Starting point is 01:55:38 oh, cool, you screwed up something I like again. Is there anything that can do to win you back as, like, a potential fan? Because if you grew up, I mean, if you read the comics, you're more likely to than I like again. Is there anything that can do to win you back as like a potential fan? Because if you grew up, I mean, if you read the comics,
Starting point is 01:55:48 you're more likely to than I guess anyone else. They had Black Bolt blow his own brains out in the stupid Doctor Strange movie. No, after that, I don't think so. It is directly disrespectful to me as a comic book reader. And you have been directly disrespectful to me now for half a decade decade if not longer so no i don't think i they should make a public apology mea culpa and i might consider it but
Starting point is 01:56:12 outside of that nope um i've been done for forever can i ask you why you left your phd program i feel like that's such an unusual choice with academia was it because oh i got so stressed out yeah just when you're you like what you do and you enjoy doing it you get more and more workload and i just i had too much at some point and just went so took a sabbatical and then didn't end up the sabbatical is still going this it is now a six year long sabbatical. Can return at any point. Maniac Gear says, Aiden, you're my hero with the reasonable expectations of an
Starting point is 01:56:49 individual with their own thoughts and flaws. Difturhesmusma? Difturhesmusma in Sochayedif. What is that? What just happened? It means live long and prosper in Vulcan. Oh, okay. Well, there you go. Difturhesmusma means live long and prosper.
Starting point is 01:57:06 And socialized diff means peace and long life, which is the response. If someone says live long and prosper, you say peace and long life. Oh, very nice. What do we got? Bobcat says, Luke, I am not the devil, but I am proud that I'm exposing the cast of Pop Culture Crisis to some pop culture. Okay. Are you? I mean, good for you.
Starting point is 01:57:25 Yeah. Oh, this is the Fast and Furious thing? Just so everyone knows, I think it's crazy that there are that many Fast and Furious movies. How many are there? They're about to come out
Starting point is 01:57:34 with their 10th, and part of our bargain is that I have to finish all of them before the 10th one comes out. And if the 10th one comes out and I haven't finished it, I have to watch that too.
Starting point is 01:57:44 But I have never understood the appeal of the fast and furious movies one and two have not uh won my heart we had a guest come on the show and when i was hanging out from the green room he was it was like the day that this uh bar like wager came to fruition he was like don't worry one two three are great after tokyo drift it's all downhill. Sir, that is six movies. What are you talking about? Yeah. The FFCU is the best cinematic universe.
Starting point is 01:58:10 It's great. Like, they got to do time travel or space travel. I'm so excited. Superpowers, mech suits, Transformers. Yeah, it was Tim who would be like,
Starting point is 01:58:17 I'd be like, I just don't get Phallus and Furious. I've never seen any of them. I don't like it, which is a little close-minded of me. And he'd be like,
Starting point is 01:58:22 but they go to space. And I'd be like, but that's just- In the latest one, they go to outer space. I've never seen any of them. Ludacris is in the outer-minded of me. And he'd be like, but they go to space! In the latest one, they go to outer space. I've never seen any of them. Ludacris is in the outer space. Resist! Resist! Then I got in. I don't
Starting point is 01:58:31 like cars, but then I got into Top Gear. Hold on. Top Gear's different. Exactly. Ludacris in outer space. If that was the only commercial, it was like, Fast and the Furious. Ludacris is in outer space. I'd be like, okay, when do we go? Yeah, I'm there.
Starting point is 01:58:46 That's it. No. You are very easily entertained. But it's funny. You know? Is it? Have a good time. Enjoy the little things in life.
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Starting point is 01:59:09 Instagram at timcastirl, or basically anywhere. You can follow me at timcast. Smash that like button. Aiden, do you want to shout anything out? Just the video that I'm working on, which is about the dark side of morality, is I think the tentative title. And because all of this greed and envy and self-interest,
Starting point is 01:59:28 it all comes out of a place of the left, people predominantly on the left, feeling as if they are doing something moral and good for other people, even if it ultimately only really benefits themselves. That's a very, very scary, I think, place to be. But that'll be sometime. What is your channel? Oh, yeah, it's Aidan Paladin on YouTube and on Twitter. So just A-Y-D-I-N, Paladin, P-A-L-A-D-I-N.
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