Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #663 Elon Musk UNBANS THEM ALL, DJT, MTG, Veritas ALL BACK w/Darren Beattie & Mary Morgan

Episode Date: November 22, 2022

Tim, Luke, Mary, & Serge join Darren Beattie to discuss Elon Musk continuing to unban dozens of accounts, Jack White throwing a tantrum and quitting twitter, Shoe0nHead claiming Musk's personal experi...ences shouldn't influence Alex Jones twitter ban, a new twitter alternative immediately backfiring, women quitting twitter in droves after Elon demands only hard working employees should stay, the potential fallout from depopulation, and more information coming to light that the federal government knew about the FTX scandal the whole time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:51 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Elon Musk is unbanning everyone. First, Donald Trump is unbanned. He has this Twitter poll. There's this really funny news clip where a guy says it wasn't the American people who voted. It was Russia. They they it was them. They got Trump reinstated.
Starting point is 00:01:12 These people are starting to realize that their narrative was fiction and it was propped up by the machine. And now that regular people get to speak, hey, how about that? They don't actually like the weird world you live in. Not just Donald Trump, though. Project Veritas is back. James Lindsay is back. Marjorie Taylor Greene is back. But you know who's not back? Alex Jones. So we got to talk about all this Elon stuff because, look, a lot of it's really, really good. Overwhelming net positive. But Elon Musk's refusal to reinstate Alex Jones is making him look like a hypocrite. And I know Elon understands this.
Starting point is 00:01:47 So I kind of can't believe him when he says, oh, it's because I have no mercy for people who exploit children in this way for fame or whatever. Alex Jones was banned for making fun of Oliver Darcy. He wasn't banned for saying anything about kids or anything like that. So what's Elon talking about? Well, let's talk about it. The pros and the cons is a whole bunch of news to break down as it pertains to Twitter. Then, of course, we have over in Arizona, the attorney general is launching an investigation into election irregularities,
Starting point is 00:02:14 and the assistant AG is refusing to certify the election. I have no idea what YouTube thinks of that. YouTube? What? No idea. I don't know. How do the rules? I have no idea. So we'll talk about it anyway. So before we get started, head over to TimCast.com, become a member. If you would like to support our work, click that beautiful join us button, sign up. And as a member, you will help support all of our journalists and you'll get access to the exclusive uncensored members only show. We're going to have one of those coming up for you tonight around 11 p.m. So don't forget to smash that like button, subscribe to this channel right now and share the video. If you're watching on YouTube, take that URL, just post it everywhere you can. Word of mouth is the is the best way to support us. And it helps us bypass the censorship because
Starting point is 00:02:56 sure enough, we're already getting people messaging us saying that there are no notifications. They're having trouble finding the video. So surprise, surprise. But, you know, smash that like button. Joining us today to talk about all of this and more is Darren Beattie. Great to be here. Thanks for having me. Who are you? I'm the founder editor of a great news site called Revolver.News, which has just published a really um bombshell piece on the next ftx scandal which i hope we'll have a chance to talk about yeah is that tether yes there's been a lot of talk about tether for a while but we'll definitely get into that that sounds very interesting and
Starting point is 00:03:36 i'll also mention uh the last episode we had you on was our biggest episode we ever did for a while until we had joe rogan andan and Alex Jones at the same time. But, like, come on. Like, having those two guys at the same time, you know, that shouldn't count. Like, having you as a single guest and getting, it was like 2.4 million views or something. Right, you have to divide it in half.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Actually, you know what? I can tell you this. Actually, with the live viewership and the VOD stuff was put on Rumble, it actually is still the biggest. There you go. Because we had 300K, so I think it's like, if you were to add
Starting point is 00:04:07 the YouTube views from the day plus Rumble, it would be 200K more than the AJ Rogan episode. It's all how you count. It's all how you count. Right on, man. Thanks for joining us. And we're also hanging out with Mary Morgan. Hello, everyone. I'm sitting in Ian's seat tonight. Happy to be here. Who are you?
Starting point is 00:04:24 I'm on Pop Culture Crisis. Oh, yeah. That's a show. Here at ToonCast. That's right. So you should go subscribe to that. That's a great show. I think so, too.
Starting point is 00:04:33 You know what's another great show? YouTubeobject.com forward slash WeAreJage. Anyway, today I come here with one simple message. Make Orwell fiction again. It's just getting too real out there. This is one of the shirts. this is the message on my shirt it's one of the first shirts that we actually got out there to the general public it's one of the first ones that kind of went viral uh and i'm wearing it today if you want to wear it you could get it on the best political shirts.com because you do
Starting point is 00:04:58 this is how you guys support me and my efforts here so thank you so much for having me splurge back once again. Hello, Luke. Hello, Mary. Good to have you guys here. Are you okay with the fact that he calls you Splurge? This is Scary Mary. This is between me and Splurge here, okay?
Starting point is 00:05:14 I didn't know this was a thing. Scary Mary. I think Luke has a lot of nicknames for everybody here, so I'm cool with it. That means we're friends. He's Lou now. Yeah, that's right. What?
Starting point is 00:05:23 Call me Lou. That's fine. Lou. Okay, let's talk about news. Here, that's right. What? Call me Lou. That's fine. Lou. Okay, let's talk about news. Here's the first story. Elon Musk's Twitter, I like how they call it Elon Musk's Twitter, reinstates rep Marjorie Taylor Greene. So this is from the past couple of hours. Of course, Donald Trump has been reinstated.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Don't know if he's going to come back. Project Veritas is back. James Lindsay is back. Who else is back? I'm seeing everybody come back. Andrew Tate is back. Andrew Tate is back james lindsey is back who else is back i'm seeing everybody come back uh al andrew tate is back andrew tate is back anybody else marjorie taylor green don't know elon musk is just you you think he's he's going through a list and then just like looking at why they were banned okay we'll unban them and like who's this and like unban them but the graveyard of suspended accounts is just so large that there's no way to know who's never going to come
Starting point is 00:06:04 back well we're waiting for sargon carl benjamin to be unbanned oh yeah i was just thinking of him accounts is just so large that there's no way to know who's never going to come back well we're waiting for sargon carl benjamin to be unbanned oh yeah i was just thinking of him did he get did he get unbanned i feel like i saw that today or people would be just calling for it it blends together yeah i think michael malice tweeted out that he should be unbanned okay yeah yeah there's a bunch of people rakeda law still uh he's still banned carrie wedler banned uh dr malone dr um mccullough anti-media free thought project so many we could keep going we could do a whole show just by naming all the people that have disappeared off of the face of the internet i know milo said he wouldn't
Starting point is 00:06:33 come back to the platform but so did donald trump tweeting but come on how are you gonna resist milo has to come back i really want him to yeah what do you think darren who needs to come back and do you think trump will come back oh there are a lot of people that need to come back trump he desperately wants to and elon understands that hence the recent tweets that he sent out expressing the uh the temptation to which trump is yet to give in but he's just got to he just finds he needs to find the right opportunity to do so they say they're potential legal complications um given his fiduciary responsibilities to truth social so that has to be worked out and as you know the system will use any opportunity can get to file another case against trump and it looks like there are already three or four in the works.
Starting point is 00:07:27 So it's complicated business with Trump. He wants to. And if we subscribe to the modification of Occam's razor that Elon propounded on Twitter, namely that the most entertaining outcome is the most likely, I think we can all expect trump to be on there and many more colorful figures to come we need to we need to pull this meme from elon musk he tweeted and lead us not into into temptation and it is the meme of the woman showing her private parts to the monk and the monk is refusing to look the monk of course is donald trump and the woman's derriere is twitter so uh very good.
Starting point is 00:08:05 There's another one where it's Lois Griffin, all disheveled looking, looking over at a bottle of prescription pills. And I just got to point out, there's a woman. She blocked me, though. She quoted this and then wrote, this is rape culture. A billionaire promoting rape culture on his platform. And then I was just like, men not wanting to have sex with women who want to is rape now i guess and then she blocked me for it so no but it's actually true the the rape is actually him not giving into the temptation well if anything she's assaulting him the the race she's you know he's just minding he's praying
Starting point is 00:08:42 right he's minding his own business and then she comes along and she pulls up her dress and just starts looking at him. You know, this guy's minding his own business. Yeah, he's assaulting him. He's not being a simp. Maybe he should be praised. That's a respect. No, but not being a simp is raped.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Simps sink ships, okay? You gotta understand here, this is a serious deal here. So obviously, you know, you're portraying Donald Trump doing the right thing here, right? Maybe that's what she meant. Maybe I misunderstood. Maybe she was saying the woman was raping the man. Nowadays, it's a little bit confusing.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Elon Musk was trying to imply that he was trying to seduce Trump. But it's been nearly three days, and Trump still has the ability to tweet, but yet hasn't done it. He can't. And, I mean, he can't because of financial interests with Truth Social. So we should explain it in kind of basic form here. Trump is having the opportunity to make a lot of money with Truth Social rather than, of course, have a voice on Twitter. He did make a couple statements a couple of months ago saying that he wouldn't return
Starting point is 00:09:41 to Twitter even if Elon Musk would buy it. Will he return? I think he has to if he's going to be running a successful presidential campaign, because there's no other way to get out in front, to get your message across. But most importantly, also protect yourself against the incoming attacks and slanders and all the fake news media bullcrap, along with the DOJ indictments. There's no better way to protect yourself than in the court of public day and that of course means using
Starting point is 00:10:08 Twitter. Will he use it? What's the court of public day? Something I just made up right now. Court of public light? Public opinion. Court of public opinion. Thank you. Do you think Elon should buy Truth Social then for way more than it's worth? And then he technically still wins? I got the solution.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Seriously. Donald Trump tweets a sentence word and then he technically still wins i got the solution literally seriously okay donald trump tweets a sentence with a link to truth social which contains the paragraph so that way he's still getting his idea on twitter he's maximizing his audience but he's actually helping truth social grow i think that's the best thing to do because more competition in this space is good and if he can build a if he can build another community, then we never have to worry about monopolistic censorship. From what I read, truth social has a six hour exclusivity window.
Starting point is 00:10:53 And therefore Trump must post on, this is what I read. It could be wrong, but Trump, Trump must post on truth social. Then six hours later, he could post the same thing on another social media platform. And there's exceptions to the rule like fundraising. So he can post on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:11:09 according to some of the mainstream media sources out there and their kind of larger agreement with Truth Social. But at the end of the day, I mean, is he prioritizing money in his platform over this platform? And will this kind of outcome be in his benefit? I don't think it will. Are you saying Truth Social has the possibility of becoming profitable? Because I don't see that. Oh, definitely. Yeah, it could be profitable.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Who uses it? Do any of us at this table use it? No. Well, I have one and I will say I don't use it, but there's a lot of engagement on it. It is significant. Elon's probably trying to steal back that engagement. Oh, the users that went over to it?
Starting point is 00:11:50 Yeah, I think Elon saw this as a business opportunity. He probably was just like, look how many people they've kicked off the platform. They're losing money because they're bad at business. I can come in, post some spicy memes. Everyone will start screaming and spitting and yelling. They'll all come back. And then we'll go public again in a few years. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And there's been a massive influx into Twitter since Trump's count was reinstated. A massive number. Look at this. This tweet from Donald Trump from 2011. I feel sorry for Rosie's new partner in love whose parents are devastated at the thought of their daughter being with rosie a true loser this this history was wiped from existence by by vajayagada and dorsey and with elon musk coming in we get the whole archive it's a veritable library of alexandra a cornucopia back there was books of his tweets there's literal books of his tweets that were being sold on amazon wow that's amazing yeah i love all of trump's old tweets telling robert pattinson to break up
Starting point is 00:12:50 with kristen stewart i'm looking him up now because i just love him so much it's amazing see here's the issue why don't even even this trump isn't on truth social true no it's not the true social posts are like paragraphs about like MAGA stuff. Come on, Donald Trump. Call somebody a horse face. Right? We need to bring back the snarky one-liners.
Starting point is 00:13:12 This was hilarious. Man, I can't believe it. This stuff's 11 years ago. Yeah. Trump was sitting there on his golden toilet just insulting people on his phone
Starting point is 00:13:20 and we all thought it was funny. Yeah, like three in the morning. Not just insulting people, but like remember when he posted at his like taco bowl? Yeah. Yeah, like three in the morning. Not just insulting people, but remember when he posted at his taco bowl? Yeah, that's great. That's so wholesome.
Starting point is 00:13:30 His taco bowl. There's nothing so lighthearted on the app as when that went up. Yeah, bring back Twitter Trump, I guess. Man, all the crazy stuff on Trump's Twitter thread.
Starting point is 00:13:41 We have to go back in time and look at all the archives. He's not letting me word search anything he's tweeted right now. You know, there have been glitches on Twitter that I've noticed. Mostly that you'll try and load a tweet and then it'll say this tweet is unavailable. Or the replies are upside down. What? Yeah, that happens so much to me too.
Starting point is 00:14:01 So they usually are below a tweet, but they're above a tweet and they're in a non-linear order.linear order before they slashed the number of employees yeah yeah well like they know it's happening a lot more for me they appear above the tweet yeah yeah you have to scroll up and then it's confusing and then it's all messed up and hey look just combobulated that doesn't happen to you if twitter implodes and is wiped off the face of the earth, I'll take it as a win, too. Like, you've got this platform that is clearly biased
Starting point is 00:14:29 against anyone who opposes the establishment, namely conservatives because the Trump, you know, Trump came in. But even anti-war people are getting banned. So if Elon Musk
Starting point is 00:14:39 tries to fix it, it's a good thing. If he unbans people, it's a good thing. This could be, you guys ever hear that stuff? Is it Pocus? It's Pocus. He's a terrorist. Oh a good thing this could be you guys ever hear that stuff is is it focus he's a terrorist have you guys ever ever he's outside the door have you ever heard the story stories about how like someone on their deathbed all of a sudden will become like lucid
Starting point is 00:14:57 and energized and they'll sit up and start talking and be totally normal and you'll be like oh they're getting healthy and then they just die you guys ever hear that like like people who are like dying and like laying on their bed will be we'll just one day get up and be like i'm feeling better i'd like to see my family and then the family will come in they'll all talk and laugh and then all of a sudden the person will just go like like croak like it's the body mustering up the last bit of energy to make your final you know you know finish your business and say your goodbyes maybe this this is what's happening. Elon Musk comes in. We're all like, yay, we feel invigorated again. Like it's 2015, 2016.
Starting point is 00:15:31 And then like the replies flip over and the words start getting jumbled. The tweets stop appearing and then it's gone. But it definitely doesn't feel like 2016. And then the microchip goes inside of your head without you even noticing it, without your consent. And then bada bing, bada boom, you're connected to the new WeChat of the United States.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Without your consent. All right, let's talk about whiny celebrities. We have Rolling Stone. Jack White quits Twitter, calls Elon Musk's Trump reinstatement a whole move. Trent Reznor also quit. Nice. Who cares, dude? You guys aren't part of the conversation.
Starting point is 00:16:02 You're welcome to be part of the conversation. You weren't part of the conversation, so you cried be part of the conversation you weren't part of the conversation so you cried and left so what you weren't tweeting anyway yeah he said that meme that's like the big thumbs up yeah all right we're gonna continue with our conversation now thank you he said this is straight up you trying to help a fascist have a platform so you can eventually get your tax breaks why are these people so dumb? Yeah. Elon paid the most amount of taxes than any American citizen ever in history. Yeah. So why? And who is he accusing of being a fascist?
Starting point is 00:16:34 Yeah, who exactly? Like, Trump? Trump hasn't tweeted. It's been three days. The world hasn't ended. Like, come on. Like, people take themselves way too seriously. They're claiming that Elon's forcing them to follow Trump.
Starting point is 00:16:48 That's ridiculous. It's not true. Yeah. That's worse than, like, QAnon stuff. They're tweeting, like, not only was Trump reinstated, but I found that I was following him, and I've never followed him, and I have to unfollow him. And it's like, dude, you followed him.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Come on. Yeah. We know you did. Who's this guy? Jack White. Jack White. The White Stripes. Seven Nation Army. Anything? No, nothing. Ring a bell? Okay, cool. on yeah we know you forgot who's this guy jack white the white stripes seven nation army anything no nothing ring a bell okay cool cool have you noticed that all of these choogy people use a
Starting point is 00:17:13 hole is their number one insult a hole it's really cringy i don't know why i don't know why that word is so particular and the way they curse it just feels like a 13 year old who hasn't cursed before who's like trying to get away with it. I don't know. Trent Reznor left too. And I'm just like, and? Yeah. Not very relevant right now.
Starting point is 00:17:32 No, I look. You will not be missed. My favorite was CBS News saying that they were going to be leaving temporarily because of security concerns and then coming back. And then still everyone saying, we don't care. It's like, it's okay. Especially if you announce it, you won't have the willpower not to come back yeah and then they came back they came right back just a few days afterwards a few hours afterwards and it's like oh yeah we're still looking we're monitoring the situation like what what the thing is none of
Starting point is 00:18:00 these people can really leave and that's why it's's not the last kind of death croak of Twitter, because nothing on the planet has been able to replicate the network effects that Twitter has. True. I would be astonished. It's just too valuable to too many major stakeholders in the system. Just recently, you had Elon, who, by the way, I think he is maybe the first major captain of industry to mock the ADL since the ADL's inception. That's a first. It's a major thing. It's incredible. And he continued it.
Starting point is 00:18:34 So Israel did a tweet. And Elon kind of mocked them, too, but in a playful way, saying, look, um you know we need more people to tweet we need more countries to tweet and so if countries are tweeting um you know it's just it's too valuable it's it's not like there's this other thing called what is it called like triceratops there there's some stupid like left-wing version of twitter that they're trying to do. Mastodon. You can't do that because of the network effect. No, no, no. Actually, we're learning that Mastodon is quite based, actually.
Starting point is 00:19:14 They're officially telling people, if you have a problem, just block them. We're not going to ban them. And they're saying, I saw this woman, she said that she got suspended on mastodon because she was calling out white people and they were like yeah it's racism you're not allowed that was that an actual thing or just like an algorithmic no no someone did it and they said that her posting about this was like she got suspended but here's what people don't realize mastodon it's it's uh they're different servers it's so okay so it's the fediverse mastodon is like i guess one note i'm not entirely sure how it works i'm sure people in chat probably know better
Starting point is 00:19:49 but basically when you sign up for it you pick a server hosted by who knows and so they warn you this is some random guy's basement you don't know what he's doing when you sign up for this to get off twitter he's got all your data your password got everything and so people are signing up and they're thinking this is going to be better now and there's a mod as a viral tweet where he's like yo just block people i'm not gonna we're not banned i'm like just block them even on twitter weren't doing that twitter was banning everybody so that's turning out to be based that's fair enough but i think the point stands twitter is is something, it's unique. Its function as the global public square is unique, and it has network effects that are also unique. And for that reason, a lot of stakeholders are going to do everything they can to prevent Elon from going the direction he seems
Starting point is 00:20:38 to be going. And he has a very difficult position. He needs to exercise a lot of caution. He needs to approach things with finesse. And I would say so far, he's done about as well as we could reasonably expect him to do, given what the stakes are and given what he's up against. There's a couple hiccups that he deserves to be criticized on legitimately, but you do make a good point because where else could you see the president of the ADL go after Elon Musk and Elon Musk respond saying, hey, stop defaming me. Where else could you see Kanye West say shalom, right? This hive mind, this online reality is amazing.
Starting point is 00:21:19 And the people quitting it, there's a reason they're coming back. All these people, all these actors, hey, I'm quitting Twitter. Hey, I'm still quitting Twitter, but I want to make one more post and another post and this is this is again something very similar to what we saw with uh neil young with spotify this is the same thing we saw with all these celebrities saying that they're going to be moving to canada a lot of these people are all talk they're all bark no bite and we have to understand these
Starting point is 00:21:40 threats are empty and they need to be called out as ridiculous because Twitter is where it's at right now. It's fun. It's entertaining. And it's where I'm at. It's the old St. Augustine, Lord, make me chase, but not yet. Exactly. This is amazing. When Kanye West gets reinstated, people are starting to feel like I don't have to worry about cancel culture anymore.
Starting point is 00:22:01 I don't have to walk on eggshells. So what does Kanye tweet? Shalom. Hilarious. The ADL, some guy tweeted, he's openly mocking us now. cancel culture anymore. I don't have to walk on eggshells. So what does Kanye tweet? Shalom. Hilarious. The ADL, some guy, he tweeted, he's openly mocking us now. It's like, uh-huh. So what? Like, the problem is these people were overly sensitive. I don't think Kanye West is an anti-Semite. I think he's probably got some wacky views. I think he said some silly things. But I think if you sat down with him and talked to him, you'd understand him, right? He's not like this
Starting point is 00:22:27 caricature of a guy marching around with a hood and a tiki torch or anything like that. But these people want to say that Libs of TikTok, for instance, by simply tweeting out, I'm sorry, retweeting videos posted by people publicly, she's murdering
Starting point is 00:22:43 them. So there's this viral tweet, I comment on it, where they're like, you know, Libs of TikTok has murdered hundreds of LGBT people by sharing these videos. And it's like, bro, the videos are public. Libs of TikTok isn't doing anything. If that's their standard, and people have to abide by those kind of psychotic individuals, they're scared to speak out. Now, Elon comes in and says, have fun, guys. And what are we seeing? Spicy memes, jokes, trolling, and fun.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Yeah, comedy. And you know what, Jack White? Well, he doesn't like fun. He says fun is bad. So he has to leave. Okay, bye-bye. Go play your music, dude. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:23:21 We'll have fun and post spicy memes. Bring back the meme wars. Yeah. Play music, dude. I don't care. We'll have fun and post spicy memes. Bring back the meme wars. Yeah. Yeah, it's sad and pathetic. But yeah, the whole thing about lives of TikTok killing people, they have this new term that a lot of these kind of midwit mediocrities with master's degrees are talking about called stochastic terrorism. That's right.
Starting point is 00:23:45 And it's really such a joke concept, but it effectively means that you can't criticize anyone because of the possibility that the criticism would be out there in the ether and some crazy person might attack some kind of affiliated group, and then, of course, you're responsible. So it's the latest of of
Starting point is 00:24:06 many uh censorship predicates that and then uh the the woman behind the libs of tiktok what's her name chaya is that her name she puts stochastic terrorist in her bio and now i'm seeing these leftist journalists to be like she's openly bragging about doing it and i'm like are you kidding me do you really not understand someone being facetious, making fun of you for calling them that? Or are you intentionally just trying to lie? You know what, man? I'm glad Elon bought Twitter because he took over the space and it is nuts to see this. Like Luke mentioned, telling the president of ADL is like, I can't believe Elon's doing this. When he had a meeting with us, he promised us. And then Elon says, stop defaming me.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Like, that's openly mocking them. But I guess Elon Musk is the definition of FU money. Just outright. We'll see how far it goes. But so far, I think he deserves credit because there's so many people who you think you would have FU money, but they never use it in that fashion. And I think Elon is setting an excellent example, stepping into the actual arena, playing for keeps,
Starting point is 00:25:13 and seeing where things land. So give him major credit, and it's only just begun. So we'll see how it unfolds. I think Elon actually tweeted at Trent Reznor, too, or tweeted about him or something. I don't know. Jack White posted on Instagram some long diatribe that's not worth reading. That's not free speech or what the poll decided or whatever nonsense you're claiming to be. This is straight up you trying to help a fascist have a platform so you can eventually get your tax breaks.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Like, I don't think this guy knows anything about tax law. You know what I mean? No. like i don't think this guy knows anything about tax law you know what i mean no i mean it's the typical sort of like maybe 105 iq you know burned out idiot kind of if that's high pseudo clever conspiracy theory it's always like some dumb financial incentive that doesn't even make sense if you actually know how these things work there's a certain kind of framework for this particular type of accusation um and i would peg him around 105 well let's do this that's high for me i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna call out elon musk for hypocrisy we have this tweet from shoe on head she She said, Elon Musk confirms he won't reinstate Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:26:25 However you feel about Alex Jones aside, am I wrong here? Like, not that there was much doubt before, but Elon just completely showed his ass. Elon said, my firstborn child died in my arms. I felt his last heartbeat. I have no mercy for anyone who would use the deaths of children for gain, politics, or fame. Now, that's interesting. Alex Jones was not banned from Twitter for anything related to any kids. Alex Jones was banned from Twitter because he insulted Oliver Darcy. Elon is insulting a reporter, a bannable offense. Okay, ban yourself. I'll wait. Is Elon Musk going to ban himself?
Starting point is 00:27:06 He's going to shut up? Okay, look, I can respect all of the good things he's done, the people he's unbanned, and I will accept the win. What I will not accept is, I will say it this way. It is not victory for the people that we are living beneath
Starting point is 00:27:19 the whims of a billionaire. What is a victory for the people is a clear set of rules, policies, and procedures so we can all fairly understand the rules of the billionaire. What is a victory for the people is a clear set of rules, policies, and procedures so we can all fairly understand the rules of the platform. Elon, it's your platform. I understand that. What are the rules? If you come out and tell me the rule is free speech, I say, you got it, boss. If you come out and say the rule is, you can't say this, otherwise I'll say, okay, well, that's dumb, but you got it, boss. If you come out and tell me the rules are A, but then, oh,
Starting point is 00:27:43 by the way, I have special rules for other people. Well, then your rules are garbage and completely meaningless. Now, what's really happening is you're unbanning people you like. Well, that's a very interesting point. But what would you say to this is that what if in practice, in terms of how things cash out, it actually maximizes free speech on Twitter to have an arbitrary system rather than to have a system that follows prescribed rules? Because you'd have to think what kind of prescribed rules can he get away with? could say what he said before, which is that the law of the land in terms of speech will govern speech policy on Twitter, which in the US would mean First Amendment. I don't know if that's practical given the implications. I understand that. So let's say, let's ask where the line is.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Insulting a reporter, is that a bannable offense? Is that in need of flexibility? I think they would all need flexibility, but I think it's easier to think in terms of who would be let back on versus kind of neutral principles that are kind of applied retroactively. In practice, he can get away with more if he pursues the arbitrary approach. Of course, of course, of course. In terms of maximizing free speech on twitter and and he's giving himself a legal argument here because he's outright saying that for this personal reason he will not be reinstating alex jones i will stress i absolutely uh feel and sympathize with elon over this feeling of losing his son i mean it's a horrifying thing to have to experience and i can i
Starting point is 00:29:22 can respect and understand that i just don't know what it has to do with Alex Jones insulting a reporter. Now, if we're going to argue there needs to be some flexibility, sure, but some things are within the bounds of the Overton window and fine, insulting a reporter, you don't get banned for it. Now, if you're arguing that there's harassment and what constitutes harassment, okay, now we're dealing with something more difficult. Well, I'm saying more that at this stage, at least in practice, his assessment, and he could very well be right on this, is that he can't get away with allowing Alex Jones on. And he is probably imprudent. And I think he probably stepped over the line in attacking Jones the way he did.
Starting point is 00:29:57 But the reality is probably he couldn't get Jones on. And that's the cost of doing all the other stuff that he's done. Perhaps. I understand that. But I'm not going to apologize for Elon. Oh, of course not. I will accept the victories. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:09 And we're seeing tremendous victories. It's funny. It's fun. We're laughing. There's jokes. There's memes. And all Elon had to do was not address the issue outright. It's probably the safest thing for him to do.
Starting point is 00:30:19 He's not addressed Carl Benjamin. We all want him unbanned. He's not addressed Milo. But he did specifically address Alex, then said he's not going to unban him because he did a thing six years prior to his twitter ban that offends elon and that right there i get it maybe he's gonna have a legal argument in the future that i that clearly shows i will ban whoever i want for whatever reason there's no rules whatsoever and by doing so if does ban you, you can't sue him for breach of contract because he's clearly operating on a whim. I'm happy he's at least telling us
Starting point is 00:30:50 where his flawed decision is coming from, because it's an illogical decision that shows you that there's no pathway to redemption. And he's using emotional trauma in order to justify this larger banning for something that Alex Jones has already apologized for, something that Alex Jones is being fined $1.5 billion for, something that, of course, cost Alex Jones almost everything. But at the end of the day here, if we're going to be punishing people for using children for their own political gain or fame, my original response to this was, hey, Elon Musk, have you heard of Barack Obama, the guy who dropped a bomb every 20 minutes for eight years?
Starting point is 00:31:30 The guy who extrajudiciously assassinated a 16-year-old American citizen? If we're going to be punishing people for hurting children, we might as well ban the President of the United States. Let's not even get into Big Pharma. We don't even have to go into Big Pharma. Hold on there a minute.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Joe Biden out there groping and sniffing kids right now. You're going to ban him? That's a lot different than dropping a bomb on small children. No, no, no, I get it. I'm saying Obama's not the president anymore. So we have that argument. So ban him, obviously. And Joe Biden, who's currently the president, is on camera groping and sniffing children.
Starting point is 00:32:00 So how about we have a standard? Oh, that's the problem. There's no standard. Do you think any off-platform behavior warrants a ban? Nope. Well, this is what Jack Conte of, what's it, Patreon? Yeah. Argued specifically.
Starting point is 00:32:12 He created this new term, off-platform behavior. Off-platform. Off, yeah, yeah, off-platform behavior, which is absolutely ridiculous. Because, again, you're going to arbitrarily say, you did this 10 years ago or 20 years ago. I don't like that you did this. It's cancel culture. It's cancel culture. But again, my personal preference, which I hope ultimately he'll be able to achieve, is the First Amendment standard. But he's a lot more practical than I think people realize. And the First Amendment standard, it sounds like something very easily publicly
Starting point is 00:32:45 defensible when you put it that way. But then you say, okay, First Amendment standard means all legal speech. That means that probably the most banned people on the internet, like Andrew Anglin, has to go on Twitter. I'm for that because I'm for the First Amendment standard. But as a matter of practical reality, that's a hell of a lot of incoming that Elon would have right up front. And so what kind of principles can you pick that would cash out better, at least in this initial stage,
Starting point is 00:33:17 than what he's already done? Then don't lie to me. Don't say you believe in free speech when you don't. Because if the assumption is that, perhaps he's playing him a 4D chess, 3D chess, and then he should not have addressed the issue at all. Because if your argument is he has to to play the game, that means he's virtue signaling. I don't care for virtue signaling. I don't care for being lied to.
Starting point is 00:33:36 And I don't care for petty—I shouldn't say it that way, but I don't care for personalized arguments as to why certain people are below the standards. I agree. I think he shouldn't have gone there and said, oh, you know, use the kid thing. That was unfortunate and crossed the line. And he clearly doesn't know anything about it. Sorry to interrupt. Right. No, I agree.
Starting point is 00:34:01 No, I'm totally with you there. I want the First Amendment standard. I'm just trying to put myself in Elon's shoes. And I'm thinking, as much as we want a kind of neutral principled standard, such that we can say, well, if you do this, what about this, whichist view of it, is that he can actually probably maximize free speech more if he does virtue signal a little bit, at least in these early stages. There was something infuriating about Jack Dorsey and Vijay Agade lying to your face when you were like, hey, why was this person banned and why wasn't this person? When you'd say something like, hey, look, here's an Antifa account advocating for instructing violence. And they go, oh, well, it's a mistake. And then they still won't take it down. When they tell you, we're working
Starting point is 00:34:54 on it, there will be a path to redemption, I hear what you're saying, we're going to try and fix it. It's frustrating because you know they're lying to you. It's even worse when it's a billionaire who just says, too bad. It's one thing to be like, I can hold on to that 1% hope
Starting point is 00:35:11 that Jack Dorsey means it when he says, we're going to find a way to get people back on the platform. We've got to figure out how to do it. It's another thing when Elon Musk is like, I bought it. It's mine. Too bad. There's no rules. I can do whatever I want. And if we can't trust him on this,
Starting point is 00:35:22 what makes you think we can't trust him on other issues as well? This brings a lot of doubt and speculation because he's acting on emotion rather than morals and virtues. Rather than saying, hey, I believe in free speech. That means speech for people I despise. He says, no, I don't like him. But Elon, have you heard of a thing called Epstein's Island?
Starting point is 00:35:39 There's a former president there that used to attend it, Bill Clinton. He's also on your platform right now. If you'd care about children and children being hurt now, you'd be going after them, but he's not. And having this kind of made-up scenario where you say he's okay, but he's not good based off your own emotional trauma is not something that gives me a lot of hope in this platform moving forward. So we all agree that the First Amendment should be the ultimate standard? Free speech. I disagree. You disagree.
Starting point is 00:36:04 I disagree. I think even higher. For Twitter, for twitter i disagree and on one issue doxing okay there's probably uh the first amendment doesn't cover criminal acts there's there's challenges to whether or not something can be deemed uh criminal of its speech so so first amendment minus doxing not necessarily so listen So listen, some people are free speech absolutists. They believe that words can never be criminal no matter what you said. That means literally they think incitement to violence and instruction on how to do horrible things. And there's an interesting point there. If we argue that there is criminal speech in any capacity, we're arguing Congress can pass a statutory law criminalizing speech.
Starting point is 00:36:43 That makes no sense, right? So the Supreme Court upholds basically that if you incite violence, that is not protected by the First Amendment. And my question is, I understand that. I understand the arguments. But how does that make sense? Congress isn't making the law. The Supreme Court just said, as we interpret what the First Amendment is supposed to mean, we've carved out an exception. The Founding Fathers didn't carve out an exception. So there's an interesting argument there because if we do agree that incitement to violence is criminal and not free speech, what happens if Congress or the Supreme Court, what happens if the Supreme Court, for instance, rules that actually hate speech is incitement because of stochastic terrorism. Are we going to continue to allow the courts to decide that there are more larger and larger limits to speech?
Starting point is 00:37:30 So I don't know that ultimately— So you're saying the First Amendment standard is not good enough because it's subject to future kind of modifications from the Supreme Court's sort of interpretive development? Because the First Amendment could be argued to mean you can incite to violence. And so there's limits beyond. So my point is this. In the future, the Supreme Court may rule that doxing someone is not free expression. It's actually an attack against or something.
Starting point is 00:38:03 It's a violation of someone's privacy and thus criminal. It would be interesting if Congress ruled that posting someone's private information, this may be a court that has a case that has to be adjudicated, actually. If Congress tries passing a law saying posting someone's private home details or private information, phone number, contact, etc., without their permission constitutes a crime, the Supreme Court is going to have to determine whether or not that violates free speech, because posting someone's address doesn't really express your political opinion or views. And that's an argument some people make about what free speech is.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Anyway, I don't want to make it overly complicated. The First Amendment is an easy thing to say, but we really do need bullet point breakdown of what is okay and what isn't. Gab, for instance, I believe, bans doxing. And that's free speech. You could walk around with a big old sign with someone's address on it. But on Gab, you can't do that. I agree. I don't think you should be allowed to post someone's private details. I don't think there should be permanent bans for these things, however, because I argued this to Jack Dorsey, there are people who commit murder and they get out in 25 years. There's a guy who posted a nasty meme and you've permanently
Starting point is 00:39:08 removed his ability to speak in the public square. There's no redemption according to the theology of cancellation. I just want to point out the Clinton Global Initiative is on Twitter. Yeah, there's a lot of war criminals and monsters. There's terrorist organizations that are on there openly using the platform without any kind of problems. When Twitter a couple years ago was looking at, of course, right wing talking points that they needed to censor and take down. So it's crazy because this is a very important issue and we can't underplay it because, yes, I mean, we got to celebrate our victories. Elon did incredible things on banning a lot of important people that were punished for their political speech.
Starting point is 00:39:47 But if you're going to continue the punishment based on your own kind of made up standards, that's something that doesn't give me hope. That's something that I think a lot of people should be skeptical of. And I think that's something that a lot of people should be criticizing him on because obviously it doesn't stand with any kind of virtue. Let's pull up this tweet here. Now, I'm not sure if this is confirmed or not. I don't know. But you guys have probably seen it all over the place. This is from Stux on Mastodon.
Starting point is 00:40:13 He says, What's it with people reporting every single person they don't like? Please stop with that. This is not Twitter. Please use features like mute or block if you don't like people, but stop reporting. Otherwise, I'll start banning people who keep reporting for nothing. I'm trying to keep things running with so many new people, and it's such a waste of time to hear whatever you don't like.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Otherwise, go waste Elon's time, not mine. Elon Musk tweeted, please, hall monitors, go on someone else's platform. It was Nate Silver who said that he thinks M mastodon is a honeypot for the hall monitor types all of these people on twitter who report everything and won't shut up are leaving and going to mastodon and all spider-man meme pointing at each other and uh we're all having a good time it's like there's a party going on and they left so you know i'll take it how many employees have been slashed so far at twitter are they man i think a couple thousand 90 the point where like they don't have as many moderators then no moderators none none i'm pretty
Starting point is 00:41:12 sure their moderation team's gone they've got to have some people no i i think because they've like they've now like streamlined the process for reporting child exploitation materials which i have been waiting for them to do for so long because they made it unnecessarily difficult. You had to go through on the desktop version and go through a longer process to do that. So they streamlined that process. They have to have a good moderation team to keep up with that.
Starting point is 00:41:37 And there's been, I've seen reports that they're doing a crackdown on child exploitation on the platform. Yeah, he's number one priority, he said. But you can't do that without moderators. That's true, good point. I mean, before, the moderators were just acting like demagogues about, you know, if you were having a conversation with someone
Starting point is 00:42:00 and you weren't being academic enough in your language, then you would get banned pretty much right well there's there's also you're just at the mercy of like any random individual that comes across this let me let me say real quick since the uh beginning of the election month or whatever like october and then we're getting into november all of my videos pertaining to election issues have been demonetized for fake reasons. And it costs a lot of money. It really does.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Like getting, you know, when I cut down the amount of videos I do, I went from, what was I doing, like six to three. Having one, it's bad. It's a lot of money. And what happens is I'll get the yellow dollar sign, and then I'll request review, which takes a day. You get all the views in your day.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Then you get no money. If it is confirmed, like the next day, it'll say confirmed demonetized by manual review, and it will say harmful or dangerous activity. And it's me reading a poll and being like, the polls are in, and they say this, that. And then I got to call Google. And then they're like,'re like whoops that was an accident let's fix it for you and i'm like who are you employing who's lying on all of they're clearly leftists well it happens to every one of my videos but i have no one to call so like you saw my stats you saw my income it's absolutely insane what's happening on my youtube channel but But to answer your question, there's also a lot of third party companies, usually a lot of international workers that
Starting point is 00:43:29 get hired to do a lot of this moderation. Some of the moderation is done in-house, but a lot of it is done through, of course, other private companies in Africa, in Asia, where, of course, the labor there is a lot cheaper. And this has been documented many times, even with Project Veritas. Project Veritas even released an expose talking about how Twitter employees were paid to view at everything, including private messages, people's posts, how Twitter engineers were there to, of course, implement shadow banning. This is Project Veritas talking to Twitter engineers that were bragging about having Trump's private DM messages and were threatening to release them. So again, when we look at that content moderation, when we look at the destruction of speech, we have so much power by so many few individuals that absolutely use it and abuse it for the worst sinister political purposes. And if you dare to speak outside of the established narratives, you're going to get
Starting point is 00:44:21 punished, you're going to get screwed over. And that's exactly what's happening to my YouTube channel in such an extensive way there's another dimension of demonetization that is very relevant to elon's predicament with uh twitter and that is the latest scam of brand safety which is basically like a mafia shakedown because in some cases they have third world imports in some cases they they have third world imports. In some cases, they just have regular people. But what they do is they basically tell these advertising agencies, they say, you know, your advertisement with this site is really inappropriate for your brand. I think you should reconsider. And if you don't, it would be a shame if something happened to you. And they have a whole infrastructure in place to make good on
Starting point is 00:45:09 their threat. And so it really is like it's a typical mob shakedown. The basic framework hasn't changed, but they sell it as brand safety, meaning your brand is in danger if you don't do exactly what we say and stop advertising with this website that we don't like and we object to no matter how much money it's making you and no matter how much the audience actually likes the content on that website. And it happens on a large scale. That's exactly the type of shakedown that's happening on Twitter now. And I bet you that our good friend Jonathan Greenblatt of the ADL is hard at work making sure that these potential advertisers and current advertisers are sufficiently intimidated. But it happens on a smaller scale, too, to a wide range of sites that distribute content that the regime finds objectionable. Including yours?
Starting point is 00:46:03 Including mine in a very big way. I have one stalker woman who's absolutely obsessed with me. Every time we get some kind of new ad arrangement, she has a tweet thread about it. It's really pathetic. Is she a blue check? I don't know about that.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I don't know what her cast is. I don't want to give her attention by saying her name, but we can talk about her in the vein. I don't know about that. I don't know what her cast is. I don't want to give her attention by saying her name, but we can talk about her in the vein. I don't like giving... But this woman, and I think it's the same person, went after a weather network. What? Yeah, no joke, no joke.
Starting point is 00:46:38 There's a cable channel that does nothing but weather, and this leftist woman started like tweeting about it. And she's, well, like a lot of these amount of followers, her friends in media write up her stories. And then she's actually getting advertisers to pull off a weather reporting station. And it's like, wow, the only thing on the screen is it says like weather. It's like raining in Texas. Like, but the sad thing is the sad thing is how easily so many of these people cave because usually their liaison, their point of contact at these companies is like some 20-something woman who is ideologically
Starting point is 00:47:14 aligned. And even if not, all these unsophisticated people need to hear is the phrase conspiracy theory or Trump or something like that. And automatically it's like, OK, bad danger. phrase conspiracy theory or you know trump or something like that and automatically is like okay bad danger you know that's all i need to hear or even worse intimidation campaign are you saying it's the same just really or even worse than an older woman without a family that is there to complain as well so even worse yeah are you saying what could be worse this intimidation campaign is the same thing that happened with the youtube adpocalypse is that what you're saying that was different
Starting point is 00:47:51 well the model it seemed like they're they're saying oh the the brands who are advertising mid-rolls on youtube can't rely on whether the youtube channels they're advertised next to reflect their brand values and And I always thought that was ridiculous on its face because YouTube channels, including this one, are brands, they're companies in and of themselves, and they deserve to have advertisers that align with their values, right? But let's not forget, at the end of the day, advertisers have a choice to not advertise with certain creators. You could go as an advertiser and you could go into the Google settings and say, I don't like Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:48:29 I don't like Milo. You can choose those. You could choose who you advertise with and not. And as a content creator, I could say, hey, I don't want any advertisements for the U.S. military. I don't want McDonald's advertisements. I don't want these kind of politicians and these kind of ads associated with my brand. And I could do that.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Just like Mastodon is complaining right now. Yes yes you can i i used to be able to do that and i used to say i don't want any mcdonald's ads i don't want any um you still do that um don't you start this i don't know on youtube uh on google on google on your website you mean uh no no no on google there was a setting i remember doing this was a setting. I remember doing this a few years ago. For your YouTube channel. I remember doing this a few years ago saying, I don't want these advertisers on my YouTube channel. I don't know how to do that. I could show you at the end of the video. I know that's not fair, right?
Starting point is 00:49:15 But it's fair, exactly. But we don't hear about this. A lot of the people don't know that advertisers have a choice. And if they find someone despicable or they don't want anyone tied in with their associate, they don't have to have it. They already have the infrastructure there. That's not why they're pulling ads.
Starting point is 00:49:28 They're pulling ads because the far left marches around with bricks and conservatives sit in there, lazy boys complaining. That's it. So until law enforcement, the solution, and it's why they wanted to fund the police,
Starting point is 00:49:41 partly why, law enforcement needs to stop these people and we need to develop some kind of system. And it's tough, I know it is. The easiest example is storefronts in Berkeley will put up all the leftist signs in their window because they know if someone throws a brick through their window, the cops can't do anything about it. Like, your car can get stolen. Good luck. The cop's going to be like, well, we'll write down the we'll write down the license plate and then if we see it we'll let you know but if you've got something like a bike your bike's gone
Starting point is 00:50:09 if you've got something like a moped your moped is gone the it's stolen the cops show up and say what do you want to do about it so if you piss off the far left who are psychotic violent individuals and they start harassing your neighbor the cops are going to be like what do you want us to do about it so what do they do they, look, Dave Rubin is not going to march. This is the example I love given. Dave Rubin is never going to march to Twitter HQ to complain about the censorship. He's never going to march with a bunch of classical liberals carrying torches to YouTube HQ to say no more censorship. He's going to go and he's going to complain about it. And that's all he's going to do. Antifa will literally throw up with crowbars and beat the crap out of people.
Starting point is 00:50:46 That terrifies them. So they say, I know who to avoid and who to cater to. So these big brands, when they hear that far leftists are attacking them, they immediately say, guys, red alert, do whatever they say,
Starting point is 00:50:58 and they'll go away. That's it. Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how Elon Musk kind of navigates this very changing media advertising landscape. Because right now, just a couple of minutes ago, he's promising Twitter being a good video platform that's going to offer, quote, according to Elon Musk, higher compensation for creators than YouTube. So this is something that Elon Musk just tweeted a couple of moments ago responding to Mr. Beast. How is he going to be doing that specifically with so many advertisers boycotting him?
Starting point is 00:51:28 Will there be other advertisers? And also, by and large, advertisers are pulling back naturally, not because of cancer culture, but because of the way that the economy is just being absolutely screwed over right now. Just how poorly it's doing right now compared to everything else. I think Sargon got unbanned. I think Rakeda and Sargon got unbanned during the carl benjamin is back yeah wow dude it's been so long wow that's amazing this is what people in the chat are saying we got a super chat someone just said it i had to announce it uh carl's awesome he's a good friend he helped me actually
Starting point is 00:52:00 uh get all this stuff rolling when uh when i started doing youtube full, he hit me up and asked me if I would do a guest spot on his channel. He had like 300,000 subscribers. I had like 40. And I was like, yeah, for sure, man. I made a video. Ended up getting hundreds of thousands of hits. All of a sudden, I gained a whole bunch of subscribers and it helped get the ball rolling. So, very grateful to Carl Benjamin.
Starting point is 00:52:19 He's a good dude. He hosts Lotus Eaters Podcast. Glad to see that he's been restored finally after all these years to Twitter. Oh, man. This will be fun. Apparently, Rakita Law was literally during the show. Yeah, just right now, people are saying that they're back. Great.
Starting point is 00:52:37 This is amazing. So, look, Elon, man. Win's a win. I'll take it. I'm not going to ignore the problems I see with the Alex Jones stuff, but I will stress it again. Hey, man, like this is a huge victory. So take what you can get, I suppose. And I'll roll with it.
Starting point is 00:52:54 I will say this now, too. There's a tough question about do we give Elon the $8? I'm leaning towards yes, because I said if he freed the political prisoners, I would sign up. Because I want the features. It's all good stuff. And I want to see Twitter succeed. They deleted my ad campaign. I tried advertising the Super Maga shirt.
Starting point is 00:53:15 It's where Trump's going Super Saiyan. And they said it was political. You can't do it. I said, okay. So I tried doing the rooster shirt. And the ad ran for like four hours. And then they took it down saying it was inappropriate. Elon, I'm trying'm trying to give you money man like what's going on here we know jokes it's a rooster it says stand your ground i thought it was cool i'm like okay i'll do i'll try this
Starting point is 00:53:34 but anyway i think uh the alex jones thing is unfortunate and i think elon's wrong and i for everything we described but i'm gonna take take this win and we got to see Twitter make it so I think you know it's time to sign up we already got Tim Kess news signed up we'll get our other accounts we'll get pop culture pop culture crisis verified we'll get all our business accounts verified I think unbanning Sargon for me is kind of like oh wow like he's a personal friend you know so that says a lot yeah and we also we also now know exactly why alex jones is coming back like now at least elon's clarified his reasons for not having him on the on the platform whether they're not so sure he doesn't have ulterior motives
Starting point is 00:54:13 and he's just saying that he has this motive that's close to his heart you mean yeah i don't know like what would be the game there i have no idea he gives up the alex jones pawn but what other pawn does he get or like who's more's more powerful than Elon Musk that can threaten him financially? He has a very interesting conflict with Bill Gates, which I think is fascinating to see unfold. And, you know, Tim, you bring up a good question. It does kind of bring down a different kind of paradigm here. Do you support him for doing all this good when he did this one thing that's bad it's it's it's tough call for a lot of people but i'm kind
Starting point is 00:54:49 of leaning on like hey he freed a lot of political prisoners he's he's giving them a lot of voices and for me i think that's worth eight bucks it's it's a girlfriend probably elon musk has some girlfriend on the side who's like telling him you't unban Alex Jones. That must be it. That's more likely than anything. I don't think so. Women have powerful persuasion. I'm trying to get the tweets to load on Sargon's. Over betas.
Starting point is 00:55:17 But I don't see any tweets on Sargon's account. Maybe they got written down. I think people are saying in the comment section that he's still sleeping. No, and I mean like his old tweets aren't back either. But I can see his account. It might just be a glitch though. Yeah, because it's like whenever they unban you, it slowly comes back.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Rick Cato only has a couple thousand followers, but they're slowly getting back. A lot of people were saying that when Trump was back, people weren't allowed to follow him, but that usually was happened when people were reinstated. It took a while until all their followers and everything kind of came back to normal. I wonder if he's going to unban people
Starting point is 00:55:48 who evaded suspension and made new accounts like over and over again. It's been like five years, I think, since Sargon got banned, right? Yeah, it's been like one of the first. And he never made another account. Don't think so. Well.
Starting point is 00:56:02 That's a graze on there. Yeah, I'll just leave it at that. They were impersonating him. Let's jump to this next tweet because, my friends, we're going to have fun. Lauren Chen tweeted, Twitter before Elon versus Twitter after Elon. The before picture, it's all women.
Starting point is 00:56:19 The after picture, it's all men. Yeah, but there's like a woman right there and there's like a woman right there. That might be a woman right there. I'm not sure, but it looks like two. Over here, I but there's like a woman right there and it's like a woman right there that might be a woman right there i'm not sure but it looks like two over here i think there's like six guys there's like one two three lots of soy boys four five six yeah that's six one two three four five six soy is palpable that guy right there you can smell and taste the soy just imagine the stench okay so here's the thing here's the thing i tweeted elon didn't fire
Starting point is 00:56:46 women he asked who wanted to work hard lmfao because he put out this email where he was like everybody we're all going to be working really really hard if you don't want to stay then take a three-month severance and get out yeah and then uh these are the guys who stayed late with elon however there was a fact check. Oh, the fact check, I guess, has been removed. The Birdwatch thing got taken down. And it said that it's not a before and after. It's just the comms team versus the engineering team,
Starting point is 00:57:14 which also made me laugh because, once again, it shows a very clear difference between males and females on the issue. The women are subject-oriented. The males are object-oriented. But the truth is, it is. This image of all these women is from a tweet where a woman at Twitter says,
Starting point is 00:57:33 I'm leaving on November 4th. I'm quitting. So it quite literally is a woman being like, it's been fun. I quit. Here's a picture of my team. And then the picture of all the guys
Starting point is 00:57:42 being like, we're staying until 2 a.m. to do hard work. Yeah. My response to this tweet was, the women on the left better learn to code automatically. And you do see a big, clear kind of difference. And obviously there are different teams.
Starting point is 00:57:57 And to answer your question, Mary, specifically the misinformation team is gone, but the moderation team is still there. So there are a lot of people who have different kind of political belief systems that are aligned usually with their genders. We saw, and their kind of relationships, we saw during these latest midterms that one of the biggest voting blocs that voted for the Democrats were women that didn't have a partner. And those were people that came out and voted more than they previously have before. So clearly there is a big kind of political shift
Starting point is 00:58:31 and difference between these two pictures as well. And I think it's pretty clear to see the difference. You can't leave these chicks to their own devices, clearly. Leads to disaster every time. Oh, man. I bet they feel aggrieved right now aggrieved i did a segment on this i was talking about how um 56 of women prefer to be in the workforce according to gallup and you know what 56 that's actually not that many yeah exactly they were like an all-time high 56 and i'm like you're telling me that half of women don't want to be at work? Plus, the women who report that they want to be in the workforce
Starting point is 00:59:08 but actually don't, that's probably a huge percentage as well. Socially driven, subject-oriented, etc. There's going to be a lot of women who are like, is it Boga's yelling again? He's still yelling. The cat is at the studio door yelling.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Should I let him in? No, absolutely not. A son of a gun woke me up at 7 o'clock in the morning. is he's still yelling yeah the cat is at the studio door yelling because we want should i let him in no absolutely no why there's a son of a gun woke me up at seven o'clock in the morning i'm pissed at him and he he is he is it's an age terrorist cat what are you talking about he's a cat cat aids what aids and taxoplasmosis is real and i just don't get along with that cat i have toxo we hope it's super nice. No, he's not. Absolutely not. We all love him. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Anyway, about these women here. What were we talking about? Oh, yeah. I was wondering also. Cat ladies. Thank you. Paxoplasmosis. A real thing. I want to know how many mothers report wanting to stay in the workforce.
Starting point is 01:00:00 It's probably an even lower number. Once they've started working. I don't know. It's funny because uh we did a segment on this and the young turks did a segment mocking me saying like you know i said i said of of the women that probably don't want i haven't broken down to what i said i said there are probably some women somewhere who say they want to work but don't and i was like very vague with it and i was like they're going to be unhappy if they don't have families and then the
Starting point is 01:00:23 young turks did this huge segment where they were like tim pool thinks women want to be stay-at-home wives or whatever and i'm like yo gallop says they do like has half of women do but the reason i bring that up is because before covid the amount of men that were stay-at-home stay-at-home dads one to five percent that's ridiculously low relative to women so guys want to be out in the workforce women prefer to be at home working at home because it's this is the craziest thing to me this idea that like taking care of a house and kids isn't work all of a sudden now it's like do you want to be at work or stay at home it's like well they're both work you know because it's only work if it benefits some third party conglomerate basically basically. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Just a quick observation about this picture now that I'm looking at it. It really, it represents a different dimension, according to which Musk is challenging the system, because there's the free speech dimension we're talking about. But also, like, when you really think about how major corporations are structured it's actually borderline illegal to have a corporation that's set up to maximize efficiency and output in california it's borderline illegal even at a national level it is illegal in california now it's it's illegal but it goes to show on one hand you can look at the left side of the picture and say, probably useless. It's maybe the project manager massacre, you could call it. But on the other hand, there are so many useless people that companies are somewhat obliged to hire in order to shield themselves from a whole range of legal liabilities that have been sort of built
Starting point is 01:02:06 into the nexus between the corporate economic structure and the legal structure. And so there's this weird sort of phantom utility to having all of this dead weight in a company simply as legal protection and political protection from precisely these third party NGO ADL type rackets that exist to shake down your company. Yeah, it's like an artificially inflated HR department. It's exactly what it is. And a lot of people, a lot of these people don't work. We saw it from the TikTok videos. They're like, oh yeah, we're going for our morning mimosas and then we're going to support the African-American
Starting point is 01:02:50 owned business, the vegan restaurant downstairs that caters for us. All the caterers are supposed to be there for us but the office is empty. Wonder why? You want to pull this up? Yeah, yeah. So this is I don't want to play it too loud. A tale of two different realities.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Check out this video. Welcome to a day in my life as a Twitter employee. Two guys on the right. I don't know what they're doing. They're covered in... It's an oil rig. It's an oil rig. They're just going to add pipe or take pipe away as it goes down.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Oh, that's what they're doing. That's what the guys do. It looks like they're really good at it. Look at that. They're covered in filth of some sort. The guys lay down the it. Look at that. They're covered in filth of some sort. I'm going to my little work pod. Land pipe. And on the left, it's a woman who's talking
Starting point is 01:03:29 about going to her little booth and getting smoothies and eating her charcuterie boards. And having her wine. And living a yucky lifestyle. And having her little meditation booth. The world on the left is only possible because of the world on the right.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Foosball. Yay. We have to play foosball. Oh, now she's got her save space. Look at that. This is my farting room. I go in there and I... Yoga mats. Oh, yeah. Yo, it's so
Starting point is 01:04:02 disgusting. Absolutely. Seeing what these companies are are and i've seen them firsthand i've been to google hq but i've been i've been to their san francisco and new york offices their la offices it is absolutely insane it is it is daycare i can't even begin to describe it having having come from a life where i've had look at that wine dispenser a red wine dispenser for a plastic couple of these guys working the oil rig on the roof
Starting point is 01:04:32 on the roof chilling what can we do to get all these people fired from their jobs I think Elon just did it get them pregnant get them pregnant they're just going to go get abortions paid for by the company. Paid for by Elon Musk.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Elon Musk is allowing employees to get paid abortions. And it's paying for their travel. So Elon Musk is a part of this. He's funding it? Yes. Elon Musk is funding his employees to go out of state to get abortions. That's amazing. So again, I mean, it's a corporate.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Fact check on that? Yeah, go fact check. Fact check it right now. Tesla, right? Yeah, Tesla specifically.. Fact check it right now. Fact check it right now. Tesla, right? Yeah, Tesla specifically. But this is probably going to be the same... Women's abilities to...
Starting point is 01:05:10 This is probably also going to be the same policy in California because in California, it's probably mandated by law. Women's ability to create and sustain life definitely makes them weaker in the workforce. And you either have policies like that or you're going to hire women less. You wonder also how much, what function these project managers types are really serving.
Starting point is 01:05:33 There's the sort of legal shield, and there's also the morale question. Maybe they're just kind of giving those guys on the right side of the picture something to look at after a hard four-hour coding session oh no hold on hold on that that that was inappropriate darren four-hour coding session these people don't code and four hours is way too much time for them these are these are like they might break a nail no no i'm talking about the right side of the picture with all of the engineer guys maybe the project managers are there for morale. They're like the pinnacles.
Starting point is 01:06:08 That's so true. Yeah. You know that. Because they don't have wives to come home to. And those guys on the right, they wouldn't be able to do all that hard piping work if it wasn't for those Twitter employees. The project managers go there for the smoothies. But the project managers are the smoothies for the coding team.
Starting point is 01:06:29 That's so actually true. The way I was describing it earlier is that the most important role, in my opinion, is the stay-at-home mom or stay-at-home dad if the dad's doing it, but the person who's actually
Starting point is 01:06:41 protecting and taking care of the family. Because if a guy were to go out and fight a bear with his with his own hands and and take it down for the question is for what purpose he's not pretty he's got if he has no family he has no one to protect so what's the point of fighting the bear if he's able to just take care of himself he can eat badger rabbit and whatever else he wouldn't be able to actually eat the bear so the great conquests of the man who's going out and working hard is only for the family. And if there's no one there
Starting point is 01:07:06 to actually help protect his family, then what's the point? Raising the family is the most important job you could have in our society. Or who else is going to be raising them? But they make it disrespectful. So when I say something like half of women would prefer to be at home,
Starting point is 01:07:21 the left gets offended by it. How dare you? We would be better served working $50,000 a year jobs for some multi-millionaire in his factory. Okay, I guess. I don't think so. I think you'd be better served raising
Starting point is 01:07:36 kids and having a family and teaching human beings to exist. But that's not what the state and central controllers want. They want a bigger tax base. They want a bigger base of sheep. They want people that don't get to raise their children, so the indoctrination centers get to raise them. So the big
Starting point is 01:07:52 social tech media platforms get to raise them. So the televisions, the boob tubes, gets to raise them. And when, of course, you have children raised by the state, you have better sheep. And that's, of course, what they're also looking for, in my opinion. Better that you don't have children at all, though. You're just the last
Starting point is 01:08:07 of your line of progeny. I disagree, especially with the upcoming population collapse that's going to be coming and destroying and wreaking havoc on civilization,
Starting point is 01:08:16 which Elon Musk also talks about as well. I'm just saying, the corporations... I think the people should be having children. No, I do, too. I'm saying the corporations
Starting point is 01:08:22 would rather you not have children at all than indoctrinate your children. well yeah less trouble for them i think i'm gonna take a class on how to build a an electric motor just because if there is a population collapse you know i'll i'll stop and i'll rephrase it population collapse is a terrifying thing if if you think about it the only reason i have a cell phone right now that can pull up videos and do all this crazy stuff is because there's tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people who know how to do each and every one of these little things to make it right there's a person who mines the raw materials the rare earths the metals who uh there's a company
Starting point is 01:08:59 that makes the glass yeah it's not you know like apple makes it or android makes it then there's a company that makes the chips there's a company that makes the cameras it all comes together into this device if the glass company ceases to exist touch screens are gone like what do you get plastic screen maybe with buttons if the rare earths are gone well now we got to source them from somewhere else we can't get that if we lose access to these specialty positions i'll tell you if there's a population collapse, we will lose more than people realize because it is only because of the massive population that we're able to have such highly refined and powerful tools.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Specialties, as there's more and more people, there's finer and finer specialties. You go back 500 years. Actually, you go back thousands of years. It was possible as a single person to know everything humans knew. Just being one person because there was so little knowledge. Now there's so much knowledge. There's no way one person could actually manufacture a cell phone by themselves, let alone a toaster. That famous TED talk where a guy says, I tried to make a toaster from scratch.
Starting point is 01:10:03 This is what it'll be like if population collapse happens it'll be a hundred years from now you'll have a kid and you'll be telling a story about how we used to have small devices they were like cards and you'd touch it and you could make images appear you could control people on the screen on the screen you could move and run you knew where it was raining around the world you could talk to anyone around the planet those kids are going to be like that's magic yeah you're going to be an old person like i swear we had this thing and you look and there'll be like relics of it and the kids are like how do you even use it how does it even turn on like well the network's gone the technology's gone we lost it all forget about that and to them they'll hear the story and then they'll tell their kids magic and then in 50
Starting point is 01:10:44 years 60 years the kids are going to be like they used tell their kids magic and then in 50 years 60 years the kids are going to be like they used to believe in magic so dumb yeah i know forget about the luxuries the medical implications are also going to be very vast because there's not going to be enough young people to take care of the old people there's going to be so many horrible effects especially when it comes to the larger economic system which is going to collapse especially with the lack of people, since, of course, economies grow with people. Less people, less growth, bigger collapse.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Well, Japan is a good test for all of this, because, first of all, Japan is one of the lowest, if not the lowest, fertility rates. All the places with the lowest fertility rates seem to be the most technologically advanced. But then, other than the West and European countries that seem to have attempted to solve this problem by importing massive amount of people
Starting point is 01:11:32 from the developing world, Japan has decided to develop robots to replace them, which may in the end turn out to have been a better choice. You just don't know. I don't think so. Well, China is also doing something very similar. They have very weird robots that we can't talk about on the show that I brought up before that everyone here knows about.
Starting point is 01:11:54 But China also is facing a huge population. There are these Boston Dynamics robots. They're terrifying. And I've been on good authority that actually there's an ulterior motive there is that actually the boston dynamics robots are secretly programmed for a future in which it is a state law that everybody has to watch the lex friedman videos oh no if you don't watch the lex friedman videos the boston dynamic robots will come i got so scared you have to watch at least three per month
Starting point is 01:12:32 what happens is the boston dynamic robot shows up at your house and then a screen comes out and lex have you seen and it's just like following you're being chased as the dogs are running after you with screens on their back and you're like and they pin you down and it just plays the part i don't want to listen meanwhile lex is just talking to you quietly well i don't i was like you guys don't like lex friedman's show or what i think he's fine i think it's fascinating i nothing for or against but i think it's safe to say it's fair to say that this is the most algorithmically driven phenomenon on the entire internet i hear so many stories of saying i went to bed watching this on youtube and i woke up and lex friedman was on it's like all paths lead to fridman and it's a very interesting thing you wonder sometimes how these uh phenomena occur um maybe he's just such a great charismatic
Starting point is 01:13:34 interviewer that it's just manifestly obvious why he would you know be elevated to such a station with so many uh interesting guests Maybe there are other factors, but I definitely think it's, you know, I really think the Boston Dynamic robots, they're made to enforce it. Maybe there's going to be a SCOTUS decision, just like the Obamacare. They can force you to buy health insurance.
Starting point is 01:13:59 They can force you to watch the Fridman videos. There are all sorts of possibilities in the future. I always get recommended to him all the time, and I'm like, no, I just don't want to. Like, all the time, nonstop. Did they fall asleep watching Lex Fridman, or did they end up on Lex Fridman? That's also a good question to think about.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Well, there you go. No disrespect, Lex. It's all good. He's just spreading love. But it's nothing against him, but it is weird. It is the most algorithmically driven thing on the entire internet. Remember that story about that chick who lived in the van? She put up two YouTube videos and then got millions of subscribers.
Starting point is 01:14:35 It exposes that there is absolutely an algorithm driving everything and controlling what you see. And my conspiracy theory is that the van life trend on YouTube was to try and convince millennials to not buy stuff. And to live in a pod. Right. To live in a pod,
Starting point is 01:14:51 eat the bugs. Yep, eat the bugs and not own anything. Because people can't own homes now. It's, you know, their parents are telling them, hey, you should save up money and own a home.
Starting point is 01:15:00 That's not possible for the average person nowadays with the salaries that they're having with how much, you know, the price of real estate has increased. That's impossible. But you could have a van by the river, right? Or you could have some cryptocurrencies. You could have some tether, right? Right, Darren? Buy some tether, watch some Lex, buy some tether, you know? Get into a little geometric unity theory.
Starting point is 01:15:25 There you go. There you go. Do we have time to talk about your article? Because you wrote a very interesting article about this. Just a short, and like Tim said, there's been a lot of talk about Tether for a long time. But this piece that's up on my news site, revolver.news, it's generating a lot of buzz in crypto world and otherwise. And I'll just lay out the basic data points and people can kind of decide for themselves. It's a very weird story.
Starting point is 01:15:52 It's the third largest cryptocurrency in existence. It's a stable coin, meaning that its value is not mined in the way that Bitcoin is or Ethereum, that its value allegedly comes from U.S. dollar reserves backing the Tether. It's never been fully or properly audited in its entire existence, which is weird given that its whole value is based on the fact that it allegedly has these reserves. And then if you look at the cast of characters behind Tether one of them is a washed up child disney actor called brock pierce who was involved in all sorts of things a weird sort of underage sex scandal that he got embroiled in he was apprehended by interpol in spain there is allegedly child pornography and all this stuff involved in the apprehension. He was not arrested, weirdly. And then he turns up as the founder of this major cryptocurrency, which is a stable coin, which has never been audited, which defies the U.S. Treasury in various respects, and which just happens to be the official cryptocurrency of several
Starting point is 01:17:06 U.S.-backed rebel groups geopolitically, including the Rohingya rebel groups in Myanmar. And so the thesis adduced in this piece suggests that there could be an historical antecedent to the function that Tether may fulfill, and that is the BCCI bank, which is this bank set up by the CIA to facilitate all kinds of money laundering operations and so forth. But the cast of characters is really remarkable here. Of course, there is a Jeffrey Epstein connection. And so I encourage everyone to go and look at it. And for crypto enthusiasts and experts, I welcome feedback to where, you know, are we barking up the wrong tree or not. But so far, I've received extremely positive feedback from the crypto community in terms of Tether being a highly questionable
Starting point is 01:18:03 proposition. The issue with so many cryptocurrencies, they're clearly scams. And there's that Alameda woman, Bankman Freed's girlfriend, who I think she said something like, crypto is just scams or something else. She's like, it's all scams and something else or whatever, like drugs or something. Crypto is, I think, mostly scams, but that's not to disrespect crypto itself.
Starting point is 01:18:25 It's that... Well, everything's pretty much a scam these days. What isn't a scam? The issue is that there are people who are using crypto to scam, but there are absolutely amazing and legitimate cryptocurrencies. Sure, of course. And the technology itself is incredible. So we have this story from Bloomberg. U.S. prosecutors opened probe of FTX months before its collapse.
Starting point is 01:18:45 Sweeping inquiry examined crypto exchanges with offshore reach. Manhattan prosecutors recently changed tack as FTX unraveled. So they knew about this. Yeah, how can they not? This company came out of nowhere and had all the huge institutional money. Everyone was asking the question, where did they get all this money? And the corporate media in response to this said, he's the new JP Morgan and Chase. He's a genius.
Starting point is 01:19:08 And no one had the receipts. No one knew what was going on here. And SBF was also given hundreds of thousands of dollars to the House committee members that are investigating him. I don't see this going anywhere except for a potential false flag being used here in order to bring in more regulations, bring in more control of what essentially would be a decentralized cryptocurrency, but now is going to be hyper-focused to be a central bank digital currency that, of course, is going to be a part of the Great Reset and Build Back Better agenda, which they've been calling for for a very long time.
Starting point is 01:19:38 And this is the way, this is the false flag that they're going to get it through. I don't know, though. I feel like this stuff is shaking confidence in crypto. Absolutely. Well, if they want people to adopt a reserve crypto, this is not the way to do it. A federal reserve cryptocurrency, a digital dollar is essentially what they want. They don't want everyone just on Bitcoin. They don't want everyone on decentralized platforms. They want everyone on their platforms so they could say, hey, cryptocurrency was bad because it was reckless and they had scams. We have a bigger scam here, the US dollar for you. That's going to be getting the good principles from it.
Starting point is 01:20:14 And we're not going to be doing the bad principles, even though we really have all the bad principles. Make every transaction you ever have publicly available. Exactly. Yeah, people would not like that. Track, trace everything, automatically take money out of accounts like a social credit score system like they have in China. So this is essentially the end game here. And central bank digital currencies are something that's being rolled out with the New York Federal Reserve just a couple days ago. And we're seeing this with the G20 just announcing that they're going to have an international health passport that they're going to implement all over the world. So when we look
Starting point is 01:20:42 at the scams in our society, there's a lot of them. FTX is just scratching the surface to all the bigger scams out there. And just including perhaps Tether and just as an addendum, Alameda, the hedge fund set up by Sam Bankman Freed that's associated with the FTX scandal, they were the major backer of Tether. In fact, they're one of the two major purchasers of Tether on their exchange. And so there are interesting connections there as well. Looks like FTX was a kind of money laundering scheme to filter through the sort of Democrat machine and the Clinton overworld. And Tether may be a kind of BCCI, which is used for sort of CIA, Iran, the new Iran-Contra type operations globally.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Yeah, that was an interesting saga, the BCCI scandal. Right. Can you expand on that just a little bit? Because I think that's an important history lesson that we should kind of revisit, especially when it comes to understanding the larger kind of, the larger intelligence agencies and their involvement with the big banks and how they actually work together to screw you over. Right. The reason these things are important is that the government does not reinvent its own playbook, very often at all. And if there's an historical antecedent that serves an important function, you can pretty much bet that it still exists in some modified version. And so the fact that the BCCI existed in the 70s and 80s, which is a bank set up by
Starting point is 01:22:20 Pakistani allegedly, but it was probably set up by an intelligence agency. And it, you know, major scam, it screwed over its many of its depositors, it had a lot of shady figures, drug cartels, arms dealers, all kinds of shady folks working through it, operating through it. And then the question was, why was this manifest obvious scam allowed to function for so long uninterrupted? Well, it's because the CIA was in on it and the primary beneficiary of it. And so that gets to the sort of crypto thing is like some scams are allowed to exist because they're the scam of the most valuable player, so to speak. And in a kind of darkly ironic twist, that may in fact end up being the saving grace of Tether and crypto more broadly, is that there are too many major scams wrapped up into it that it's essentially too big to fail, at least on a medium timeline.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Yeah, me and Tim were talking about this earlier today. If there was a way to destroy cryptocurrencies and Bitcoin and decentralized currencies, what would they be doing differently than what they're doing right now? And I think it also provided a huge potential, and it still might in many aspects of allowing people to have a lot of freedom.
Starting point is 01:23:42 Barack Obama called Bitcoin the ability of human beings to have Swiss bank accounts inside of their own pockets. I think that that's a power that threatens a lot of people. And I think what we're seeing with FTX, what we're seeing with SBF is a deliberate destruction of that power. Right. But you don't really have that power if you're operating through an exchange on an exchange, right? Absolutely. Yeah. Most exchanges are also honeypots as well
Starting point is 01:24:05 exactly so like there are two different things there's the i guess and i don't mean this derisively there's a the nerd money kind of function of bitcoin which is like you have your own keys you do all these but it's a pain in the ass and people don't really want to do it it's not grandma friendly is exactly but the scalable version version of Bitcoin is replete with all of these scams. And again, maybe it's not going to fall down precisely because the scams are too valuable. In the specific case of Tether potentially being the new BCCI. It's literally the official cryptocurrency of the Rohingya rebel group in Myanmar, which is bizarre that a rebel group would have an official cryptocurrency, but that's the case. It's beloved by the Syrian, the Sunni moderates in Syria that John McCain loves so much.
Starting point is 01:24:59 It's beloved by cartels, which, of course, the U.S. intelligence agencies don't have any relationship with. Yeah, it's not like they helped them get their start in Mexico with that secret police unit that they were training down there. They had nothing to do with that. Right. Well, come on. You guys, things are a little over the top. That's a little out there. It's not like Barack Obama.
Starting point is 01:25:17 It's like Obama was giving weapons to the cartels. Exactly. It's not like we had the Iran-Contra scandal that was laundering weapons and heroin and cocaine into the country and guns and weapons. It's funny because you see that meme where it's like, okay, so look, I know the CIA was doing bad stuff in the 50s, the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, the 90s, the 2000s, the 2010s, but nothing's changed.
Starting point is 01:25:37 They've never been held accountable. Right. So they're definitely changed. They're definitely not doing that now. Yep. That's it that's it new management yes yeah and for and and you know the way this country is going there's that there's that uh viral video of the dude in arizona with the dreads and he's like yelling about about box number three in arizona and stuff oh that's great video and i'm just like i'm watching that video and i'm thinking the average person in this country does not like what the intelligence agencies are doing.
Starting point is 01:26:08 So who are they serving but themselves? Now, maybe these people have the idea like, well, they don't know what's good for them. Okay, well, dude, like that defies the core of what this country is supposed to be. It's supposed to be dangerous freedom, not peaceful slavery. Just you as an intelligence officer or whatever deciding, you know what's best for us. You don't. And clearly all of this luxury has been bad for us. It's created a whole generation of
Starting point is 01:26:32 gluttonous morons. So maybe maybe we need things to be a little bit less luxurious and people need to go out and chop some lumber to heat their homes. Maybe all of this luxury is making weak people, which makes everything worse for everybody and all we get is a bunch of whiny complainers. And what do the young
Starting point is 01:26:47 call them? Hall monitors. I said a nation of hall monitors. Yeah, there's only so much of an economy that you can make being a hall monitor, but that's really it. Those guys who are working that oil rig we watched in that video a moment ago, those guys are doing hard work. The lady at Twitter? Hall monitor. Vice media?
Starting point is 01:27:03 Hall monitors. BuzzFeed? Hall monitors. NBC News? Hall monitors. That's all they do. They walk around complaining, contributing hard work the lady at twitter hall monitor vice media hall monitors buzzfeed hall monitors nbc news hall monitors all they do they walk around complaining contributing nothing yeah we got to do something about that they're bogging us down i want to post jokes i know i want to post memes yeah without being you know afraid of getting censored or or express political ideas or or debate political ideas that might be a little edgy or controversial. I want to have the ability to talk through bad ideas. Let's be honest here, we're still testing the waters with Twitter. We still don't have that fully. And that's a shame because that's what we had before. And then we were led astray by the centralization of it all.
Starting point is 01:27:41 And now the solution is going to be more centralization, which is absolutely absurd. You mean with Elon or what? More centralization as far as what's happening with cryptocurrencies, what's happening with social media platforms being in the hands of less and less people, and media outlets being in the control of less and less people as well. Everything's being centralized. Weird, like centralization minus censorship really was sort of
Starting point is 01:28:07 the sweet spot because central centralization allowed speech at scale so that brief period in the internet when there were centralized platforms major platforms but before the speech crackdown post-2016 was really kind of the sweet spot. Maybe it just can't sustain it. Maybe the regime is simply incompatible with that level of free speech at scale. Maybe no regime is compatible, but certainly ours isn't, given how ridiculous and ultimately untenable it is. And so when they say that, you know, Elon Musk is a national security threat, free speech is a national security threat, I think that's true in quite a literal sense is that people are allowed to speak freely on
Starting point is 01:28:58 the whole host of things that I'm, you know, not even able to mention now, that is, I don't think the regime can really survive it. And so it's an existential issue from their point of view. And that kind of illustrates the stakes associated with what Elon Musk is doing. You know what really grinds my gears? I hear this all the time. People will tweet something like, tell me one time in history
Starting point is 01:29:24 when the people censoring speech were the good guys. Because it's just like World War II, the United States. Were we the bad guys? I don't know. Like the US had an office of censorship. But it's like people just assume outright
Starting point is 01:29:36 that there's never a reason for controlling information. Of course there is, like in war and things like that. To your point, the intelligence agencies probably do think that, you know, we're in a constant state of conflict and we need to be able to control information if we're going to win. But that conflicts with what this country is supposed to be, people having a right to choose.
Starting point is 01:29:55 If they can't be informed, they can't choose. So this country is clearly already lost if that's the case. But I will point out, in World Wari with the office of censorship loose lips sink ships and uh this was it there were censors who would stop things from appearing in newspapers and the radio censorship all over the united states of the federal office of censorship because we're at war well you know there's there's a logical approach to this specifically when it comes to saying hey there's all these troops moving in this direction going here obviously you can't allow that kind of information during warfare
Starting point is 01:30:26 because it's going to give the enemy the upper hand. But treason doesn't fall under free speech. No, but it's not that. It's that someone might be like, I work at a steel mill, and some crazy thing happened where the alarm went off today. That's the kind of thing they don't. Loose lips sink ships wasn't just about telling people where our military was. Some people didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:30:46 It was about giving up information on what you were doing to people who shouldn't know about it. They wanted everyone to shut up. It's a fine line, too, because where do you draw the boundaries? Because in the United States, we did have the Japanese internment camps. We did have the bombing of Dresden. We do have a lot of policies that we could definitely criticize the United States for, which we should have criticized, which criticism could have prevented, but that didn't happen because of that censorship effort as well. So again, where is that fine line? I
Starting point is 01:31:12 think that's impossible. I don't know. Darren, do you have an answer? Well, I think censorship and information control are necessary to any type of regime. I think the important issue is if the noble lie is necessary in some degree, as the famous thing from the Republic, the problem is that we become the ignoble lie. And it's less that, oh, we want a total free-for-all, free speech. It's that fundamentally what America has come to represent, what I call the globalist American empire, is really the wokeness or whatever you want to call it really is basically the de facto official religion, the de facto official ideology of the United States. And once it seeped that deeply into the marrow of the body politic, then anything that's set up to sustain the security of it
Starting point is 01:32:16 ultimately just reinforces that ideology. That's the problem that we're in. And that's not per se a problem of censorship as such. It's a problem of what the regime has become in its most fundamental sense. It is a non-theistic religion. It's crazy. I mean, it's becoming more and more clear every day. Peter Boghossian was talking about it years ago. And now we can see, we can see it clearer than ever. All right, we're going to go to Super Chats. If you haven't already,
Starting point is 01:32:47 would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, become a member at TimCast.com. We're going to have
Starting point is 01:32:53 a members-only show coming up around 11 p.m. And I think we're going to talk about some fashion company with handbags or something. Is that what it was? Yeah, it was Balenciaga.
Starting point is 01:33:02 There you go. Balenciaga. Controversial topic. Controversial topic, to say the least. And you can also do one more thing. Follow Sargon of Akkad on Twitter because he's back after like five years. And it's Sargon underscore of underscore Akkad, A-K-K-A-D. Or just go to my Twitter at Timcast and I tweeted out that he's back and you can follow him there.
Starting point is 01:33:23 He's probably sleeping because he's in the UK but I'm really excited. Sargon's so based. He red-pilled me like when I was a little young and like 14, 15 years old. Jordan Peterson tweeted something like
Starting point is 01:33:35 surprised to see you here, Sargon. So we're all excited that Carl Benjamin's back on Twitter. So give him a follow. All right, let's see what we got. Kay says, please get the critical drinker
Starting point is 01:33:44 on both timcast irl as well as pop culture crisis he's the best movie critic and fighting the message from the woke entertainment corporations yeah you're fine sounds good oh this is funny this sargon got unbanned right before uh the show started neo unrealist says sargon avocados unbanned from twitter right before show started yeah it's like 30 minutes before man. A lot of people were tweeting about him and a lot of other people as well. I mean, for him, it's been five years. It's like watching the corpse come out of the ground. When you're like, he's back, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:15 He's going to dust off the phone. Yeah, right. Yeah. I mean, he's been doing his thing, but it'll be cool to see him back in the conversation. Yeah, I just watched part of his Lotus Ears program program he did a thing about millennials and gen z stuff and it was like the old sargon where he was just talking to and sitting down and chatting which was cool to see so it's funny he's back right now it's great oh yeah all of our super chats are sargon unbanned sargon unbanned wow william nickel says your shadow band i recorded it for proof
Starting point is 01:34:41 that's right this show is and it is insane that despite the fact that we are shadow band i recorded it for proof that's right this show is and it is insane that despite the fact that we are shadow band uh you guys still watch and it's it's it's weird i mean we're in a weird place this show should be trending every night based on how many views we get yeah never does and maybe maybe not every single show i'm being a little hyperbolic, but never do it. Yeah. Alright. Mind of Madman says, no notification, and I believe in clank and beanie supremacy. Well, alright. No notification. How about that?
Starting point is 01:35:14 Shout out clankers. Rob says, Tim and Co., I'm setting up a Ligma Johnson candle e-store. Thank you for the inspiration. Another thing you've inspired me to do, and I look forward to your order. You know what we're thinking of doing is, I tweeted out a piece of land in West Virginia.
Starting point is 01:35:31 It's like 180 acres. And I was like, this could be the Ligma Johnson woodland preservation. We could actually like allocate plots of ownership, you know, and you get a little card. Fake Ligma Johnson Lords. Yeah. It's interesting because like the price per square foot's actually not that expensive and then you could you're not really
Starting point is 01:35:50 a lord we wouldn't do that but you'd have like you know we could create a public park and then it would be owned by the people who own the square footage and that could be a lot of people you're an official ligma yeah yeah you get you get you can be uh I don't know. What kind of title do we give? Can't you still buy stars? Ligma Richard? You could name a couple of stars Ligma Johnson. Who has the right to the stars? That's a good point, though.
Starting point is 01:36:13 You could name stars. You'll find out eventually. I don't know. What if we just like all of these programs, like go to a star buying company and then just buy as many stars as possible and name them all Ligma Johnson? And they'll start giving them numbers
Starting point is 01:36:24 like Ligma Johnson, 9C31. No, Ligma D them all Ligma Johnson. And they'll start giving them numbers like Ligma Johnson, 9C31. Ligma Dixon. Ligma Richards. Other ones will be Sugma. What else? Sugma. Sugma. I can't think of other ones. Tugma. Leave it in the chat, y'all.
Starting point is 01:36:38 I know they know. They are. And they definitely have good answers. Okay, thanks, guys. All right, DDMegadudu says, Hey, Tim and crew, I would like to know if Luke's nuclear bazongas implants are still up for grabs. What if it popped? I'm asking you and wondering if she followed through. Yeah, I walk in, and it's on the floor, and it's leaking all over the place.
Starting point is 01:37:03 I did mention it, just for the record but i i didn't actually ask because they're damaged you wanted you wanted them first he wanted them we are you're asking about we are going to uh be giving out those as well as the posts from my line mentioned we're we're we're bogged up because of the holiday so a lot of people are already heading out getting getting ready for Thanksgiving. Some people have to travel. I'm not even sure if we're going to be able to do our Wednesday show because everyone's traveling to Thanksgiving dinner. Nobody wants to drive on Thanksgiving morning.
Starting point is 01:37:34 So we'll just have to figure it out. But that also means that no one's going to be here. So this is just one of those weeks where very little ends up happening. You got to get the chicken in here. I'm not bringing a chicken in. Everyone keeps trying to get me to get the chicken in here. I'm not bringing a chicken in. Everyone keeps trying to get me to bring a chicken in here. I'm like, you said take a dump on the floor.
Starting point is 01:37:48 Look, I love the chickens. Clearly. Roberto Jr. Is a man's man. You know, he's tough, but he will take a dump on the floor.
Starting point is 01:37:55 And I, how are you going to get that out of the carpet? You get a steam cleaner in here and you know, it's fine. It's worth it. Mary, will you be here? I say do the show.
Starting point is 01:38:04 I need something to watch wait for wednesday or for episode 666 wednesday uh which would be episode 666 if there is a wednesday if if we do the show on wednesday monday will be 666 if we don't then tuesday will be 666 i think you should leave monday for 666 why monday why it's better than doing it you just don't want to work see women don't want to work no no she's saying we should to work. She's saying we should do the Wednesday show, but the issue is I don't know if we have anybody here. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:31 I mean, I don't like taking shows off, but Ian and Luke are going to be gone. And so, you know. Can we just have you monologue like the old days? We can just turn the camera on and eat turkey, and you can watch us eat turkey. Bring on a member of the members area well I mean I think Mary you're here
Starting point is 01:38:47 Hannah Montana she's also here we can grab a couple people but if we don't do the show that means Tuesday 666 and we have an awesome guest on Tuesday which I'm excited about having for 666 that'd be worth it but that means like I don't like doing
Starting point is 01:39:02 not working for three days it it made me lose my mind true i'm gonna be sitting there on wednesday like shaking like what's happening need to talk about stuff and i'll start i'll start talking to the cat i'll be like bucko let me explain to you what's going on you can have them no no like i'll start monologuing to him like i need to tell someone i'll look into his eyes and then i'll travel into into hell and then all the demons will be watching all right let's read some more. All right, Bobby says, Elon's remarks on Alex Jones are inexcusable.
Starting point is 01:39:29 Let's stop acting like Elon fanboys. You know, there's the question there, right? Take the win. I agree with you on Alex Jones. I think it's BS. And Darren said the same thing. He should not have gone there. He should not have said it.
Starting point is 01:39:43 What are you going to do? Are we going to be like, well, let's forego the entire victor we have on all of these things. Sargon being back on Twitter of all people, you know, I'll take the win. I'll take the win. I will let Elon know. I find his statements incorrect, morally wrong and objectionable.
Starting point is 01:39:59 And then what are you going to do? You know, we're better off. I mean, he's accusing Alex Jones of weaponizing the death and trauma of children and their families, yet he himself is using his own trauma of the death of his child as a bludgeon. Well, I guess, you know, I understand what he's saying, right? He's like, Alex Jones exploited this.
Starting point is 01:40:20 He suffered it. You know what I mean? But either way, it's's a it's an emotional thing i just don't agree raymond g stanley jr says me tell me you're from the city without telling me you're from the city tim a man can kill a bear by jamming his arm down a bear's throat i didn't mean that literally raymond i was joking i made a point early where i was like if a guy's gonna go fight a bear and kill him with his own hands by like punching him in the throat and holding his arm, causing the bear to choke and then killing it. I didn't literally mean someone would do that.
Starting point is 01:40:51 My point was that a man is not going to defeat a bear with his bare hands. Like there are some stories of that happening, but it's never like a grizzly or anything. No, it's always a black bear. I'm talking about the point I was trying to make is the grand story of the man of david versus goliath is pointless if there's no family like a dude does not need to kill the the the emperor stag of the forest that weighs hundreds of you know thousands of pounds or whatever because what is he going to do with it he's going to be like well it's dead no like the the conquest is always in support or saving of someone else so he might He might be revitalized to code for another few hours
Starting point is 01:41:27 if there's an attractive woman working in the HR department. I think that's true, actually. Like, I'd be willing to bet that. That if you, I think this is fairly obvious, okay? That if you take two guys and ask them to, you know, work out and we're going to track how many reps they can do until they have to stop, I bet if you took two guys and put them in a gym
Starting point is 01:41:51 and said do as many lifts as you can until your arms are too sore to move, if you then brought a woman in, a very attractive one, they'd probably start lifting again. They'd find, but for real though. A second wind. And it's not a statement on magic or anything, it's a statement on just what human beings are. The's gonna be like i'm gonna do it you know like give
Starting point is 01:42:08 him a reason give him a a physical reason more importantly i've read those stories about women who have lifted cars off of their kids oh yeah yeah like we know that humans do things for other humans this is the way that's cool actually reading the story like a kid got hit by a car and the and the mom she's like five five she like lifts the car up like tears her muscles but she doesn't care she's like i will save you yeah she like compressed lip like vertebrae in her back right it was a crazy story like that yeah i remember watching a story about a guy who got crushed by a boulder and then he lifted the boulder off of him and it was like man it was like 700 i don't know how heavy it was but doing so tore his muscles he like put so
Starting point is 01:42:46 much strain into doing it and they were saying like your muscles actually have five times more lifting capacity but they destroy themselves in doing it so that's why they're like limited so you know we're actually pretty strong he was stronger than we know everybody was super chatting carl is back on on twitter i'm glad we didn't notice because we made a lot of money off people trying to tell us but thank you for the super chats i appreciate it i'm stoked to see carl on man i'm really excited for that it's great he's amazing lotus eaters podcast is fantastic yeah it is bico says is tim cast interested in hiring pop culture writers if so what would be the best way to apply i I don't know, and I don't know.
Starting point is 01:43:25 I guess Mary's in charge of that. Yeah, I'm in charge. You should DM me on Twitter. There you go. Yeah, you know, she's on Pop Culture Crisis. That's their purview. All right. AK Storm says,
Starting point is 01:43:40 Tim, please ask Mary about the BDSM teddy bears marketed to children she covered on Pop Culture Crisis today. Truly disturbing. We'll talk about that. That's for the after show. Yeah, we'll talk about it on the after show. Because we're going to go off. Yeah, we'll make it.
Starting point is 01:43:51 We'll get right into it. That'll be really, really good. All right. Pinochet's helicopter tour says, well, Tim, Google really didn't like your 4 o'clock video. And I can confirm it. I saw that and I was like, what does that mean? Well, the good news is the video I put up at 4 p.m. is that the Arizona Assistant AG
Starting point is 01:44:09 is refusing to certify the election. This is true. It's in the news. It's happening. It is doing really well. People are able to get it, but it is demonetized. So there you go.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Which means I'll make probably, I don't know, 20 bucks off of that video for the day. So, you know, it is what it is. I'll take 20 bucks. You know what I mean? But that's like erasing the revenue off of it, you know? You're making 20 bucks?
Starting point is 01:44:37 I want 20 bucks. I'm not even getting that. This is why we shifted focus to doing TimCast memberships for the company. Because you've got activists trying to take your ads away. And because YouTube's trying to take your ads away. So I also, this is a thing too. I've picked up, I started doing established titles, sponsorship on the TimCast channel. I normally don't do ad reads on.
Starting point is 01:45:00 Because they're demonetizing everything. So I'm like, okay, let's play that game. Demonetize Shadowban, whatever. People who want to watch my content are going to watch it. I'll sell my own ad if you're not going to run ads against it. And so that makes up the difference. So we will always find a way. We're not going to let censorship get us down.
Starting point is 01:45:18 The One Freeman says, odd how all tech platforms laying off thousands of people in unison. Elon said Twitter was hemorrhaging $4 million a day. What was keeping them afloat until Elon burst the bubble? Was someone subsidizing them in exchange for censorship? No, it's that a bunch of advertisers pulled off the platform when Elon moved in because they're biased lunatics. And so then they start losing money however i do think something interesting is happening in in terms of all these layoffs because we're seeing a bunch of ad buyers say that there's like they're
Starting point is 01:45:51 cutting down on sponsorships and marketing firms are saying there's less money to go around so the reporting that i heard is that next year there's going to be a major economic downturn uh where'd you hear that i just scuttlebutt on twitter you know i i i saw that really funny uh twitter account it was uh inverse kramer you ever see that one oh yeah whatever jim kramer says do the opposite yeah and then they show everything he was wrong about and they're like if you do the opposite of what he says you get rich yeah it's like uh uh inverse kramer is like george costanza when he decided to do everything opposite. Phoenix Ammunition says, we've sent several appeals to Twitter to be reinstated and so far nothing.
Starting point is 01:46:32 We never actually broke a rule in the first place. Elon, please help. Y'all guys should tweet about Phoenix Ammunition because they were unjustly banned from Twitter. Were they? Yeah. They're cool guys. Yeah. They do good stuff.
Starting point is 01:46:47 They're the ones who did the website where when you wanted to buy ammo, it asked you if you voted for Joe Biden. And if you put yes, it kicks you out of the website. I think it sent you to like... His gun control page or something. He's like, we don't need your money. That's a Phoenix with an F-E-N-I-X. Yeah, F-E-N-I-X. Good guys.
Starting point is 01:47:02 Fireburns People says, went to start watching TimCast IRL tonight and was not in my subscription tab or on the channel page found it on my homepage under the live tab. Isn't that something? Isn't that something, huh? That was, the same thing happened to me.
Starting point is 01:47:17 I was going on my phone to the channel and I couldn't find it. Yep. It happens a lot. Yeah. Man, I gotta tell you, if you guys didn't like watching the show,
Starting point is 01:47:26 like, we would have been annihilated by YouTube censorship a long time ago. If we were like Lex Friedman, as Darren described it, we're the inverse of Lex Friedman. Like, the way he describes it is people are just stumbling. Maybe that's what YouTube's doing.
Starting point is 01:47:40 They're like, get everybody to watch. Everybody who watches TimCast.ir, go watch Lex Friedman instead. So we're getting punished in the algorithm, but people are like, YouTube, stop. I everybody to watch everybody who watches timcast irl go watch lex freeman instead so we're getting punished in the algorithm but people are like youtube stop i want to watch this show and then meanwhile people are waking up and they're watching lex well that's i don't know if that's actually true i got no beef with lex speculation no it's nothing against lex but there there were conversations that uh that our friend sus of YouTube was having. And basically people were criticizing her for not doing a full-on ban of Ben Shapiro.
Starting point is 01:48:12 And her defense of that was saying that we've run a lot of studies on it and they've shown that Ben Shapiro is actually a very effective stopping point. That is to say he serves a very important de-radicalization function. And for that reason, I think, you know, there's a real utility to the Susan Wozniacki, whatever, Wojacki, Wojinski, Wojack Whoa, Jack Susan. But there's a real utility to the censors to say that, look, these people are an off-ramp. They're de-radicalizers. They'll go and they'll watch Lex Fridman. fool's trade, whereby a certain type of talking head will earn your trust by saying controversial things like boys have penises and girls have vaginas. And in exchange for that trust,
Starting point is 01:49:14 will shove down orthodoxies on everything else down your throat. And that is a very important de-radicalization effort. And there's a whole cluster of people who may fit that description. And I think it's fair to say that the Lex phenomenon may be adjacent to all of that. Or Ben Shapiro, you know, telling people to take medical procedures. Also, Ben Shapiro gets a lot of
Starting point is 01:49:42 his traffic from Facebook. Overwhelmingly a lot. That's the daily wire if you look at the number one shared kind of articles on Facebook it's usually daily wire again daily wire is the Lex Fridman of Facebook and it's not accidental
Starting point is 01:49:58 I've heard I'm not going to say for a fact but I've heard on good authority Shapiro has a great relationship with Zuckerberg and they've had a great relationship for a long time. And again, there's a utility to having Ben Shapiro, who's very reliable on the key things, being basically as right wing as you can be and not punished by the algorithms. There's a utility to that in terms of how the larger conversation is controlled. Well, speaking of that, we've got
Starting point is 01:50:26 Chris Toast who says, show is hidden from my feed on both Android and desktop. Oh, that's amazing. Then we have, what is this right here? Sergeant Wolf says, hey Tim and crew, I figured I'd chat and let you know that the show was not in my feed, not on my home screen, or subscribed
Starting point is 01:50:42 uploaded feed. Had to go to the channel and find it there. Really interesting. We're getting more messages than normal so share the URL on every single platform. Twitter, how about that? Post it to Twitter where you're allowed to make jokes again and hopefully
Starting point is 01:50:57 the hope I have is that if enough people who watch this video share the URL every time it goes live, no amount of censorship will stop a natural phenomenon of people saying check this show out because clearly they're trying to stop us you know part of me is like oh you know what if we finally get banned i can go take my van down by the river and go fishing not have to worry about it but you know for the time being we're here to fight the culture war and it looks like we're winning so they're gonna there's gonna be the death rattle there's gonna be the the the panic attacks youtube's gonna lose its mind
Starting point is 01:51:28 they're not happy about it the reason why say elon musk buys twitter the reason why these changes are happening is because we have not stopped pushing back and demanding free speech calling out the lies in the machine and they wish we would just roll over. So it's a little thing we can do. But I say the same thing of Steven Crowder. You know, they keep giving him strikes on YouTube, watch his show on Rumble, watch Lotus Eaters, watch the quartering, and then just share all the content. It's the most powerful thing you can do. They can't censor it if everyone just keeps sharing.
Starting point is 01:51:59 It's like whack-a-mole. They can't do anything about it. I think that's one of the reasons I still exist, you know, all the crap i think it's viral marketing we don't even do any regular marketing it's you guys sharing the the videos yeah they youtube is not recommending us yeah youtube recommends our videos to only people who are already in that bubble people still tell me they get unsubscribed from the channel when they never unsubscribed so again lots of crazy things happening here the ass says hey lucas i bought a shirt from your website never got a return email i messaged you via instagram so help me out also love the work that y'all do yeah you should be able to message the company that you bought it from and they'll send you a tracking
Starting point is 01:52:38 number you should if you have any problems also if you have any sometimes you know rarely this happens i get a message someone saying that the graphics weren't that well. You could get a new t-shirt right away after emailing the company that, of course, did all the processing. So if you have any problems with quality or shipping, reach out to either Teespring or another company we work with, and they usually solve all your problems right away. Ian Kenny says Kanye was hanging out with Milo Yiannopoulos, said he's running for president in 2024, and Milo will be his campaign manager. I saw that. Is that true? I saw the video.
Starting point is 01:53:09 There's an actual video of a random guy filming outside, and Kanye's like, yay. He's like, hey, come on inside. He's like, Milo's there, and that's what Kanye said. He's running. What yay said. Yeah, yay 2024. All right.
Starting point is 01:53:28 Okay, let's see. What is this one? Tacti Plady says, Tim, Mary is a far better co-host than Ian for this show as well. Not cringe half the time and doesn't say upsetting things. Please have Ron more.
Starting point is 01:53:43 Upsetting things? What does Ian say that upsets you so much? Hey, Mary's great, but so is Ian. Ian, I think, adds another component to the show that is very rare and is awesome and I think is needed. Like pissing people off, upsetting them. Well, I think he
Starting point is 01:53:57 needs, people need to do that. It shouldn't be a circle, you know what? A circle of jerks patting each other on the back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're not here for that. We want to hear opinions that are not ours, and Ian provides that,
Starting point is 01:54:14 and he allows us to have conversations. I can disagree with you more if that's what you want. Yeah, sure. No, but he's being real. I believe he's being genuine. There's several instances where Ian has brought up very bad points and also where he's brought up know i believe he's being genuine there's there's several instances where ian has brought up very bad points and also where he's brought up very good points when we were talking about the lockdowns and stuff and why we didn't think the government should lock things down he
Starting point is 01:54:32 said what about an airborne ebola like where's the line and i was like okay like let's entertain like let's talk about that because we're all very much opposed to government lockdowns but then and then we sort those things through if if we all just agree with each other your ideas aren't strengthened yeah like you you actually need someone to contradict even if it's not always a good argument but the other thing too is uh well i guess that's it it's simply put right yeah you you need some kind of uh challenge but i'll add one more thing to it some people comment they're like ian doesn't know about this stuff why is he he on the show? And it's like, that was always the reason why I asked Ian to be
Starting point is 01:55:08 on the show. I was like, we need someone who's going to be like, what is that? I don't know what that is. So to give us an opportunity to explain it, because when we started this show, I assumed most people would not have the deep political knowledge that we do. And we don't know everything either. But the point was to have someone who's going to be like, what do you mean Joe Biden did that? Oh, let me explain. Because the assumption is if Ian, who's not overtly political, doesn't know,
Starting point is 01:55:33 there's a lot of people at home who don't, and we want to make it more accessible. But again, Ian and those semantic arguments, Ian, come on, buddy. Semantic arguments, they don't go anywhere. You guys are both great. We did a live show and then you know we had like ian was there we were jamming and then someone asked something about ian then i
Starting point is 01:55:50 was and then i said you know ian comes up with really great points a bunch of often we often disagree but those semantic arguments and then everyone in the crowd started clapping and cheering and then ian was laughing i probably disagree with Ian about 99% of things. Yeah. But everyone in the chat knows Ian rolls 20s. It happens. Yeah, he's pro-death penalty. And he's pro-choice.
Starting point is 01:56:12 Yeah, wild. And pro-acid. It's like a weird combination of things, you know? It's wild. Like, typically liberals, like, I'm not saying Ian's a liberal, but liberals are like anti-death penalty, pro-choice. But Ian's pro-choice and pro-death penalty. At least he's consistent yeah right you know it's
Starting point is 01:56:27 all right man yeah all right let's see uh fair frozen says the men are covered in hydraulic mud a liquid prepared with soil water and glycol and other aggregates used to inject into the drill it acts as a barrier between gas escaping from the well tap. Oh, that's right. I remember that. Interesting. Yeah. Alright. Noah Zork says, are there non-farting rooms? We should set up a fart booth in the basement. And it's just like, if you have to fart, you gotta go in the booth. That'd be hilarious.
Starting point is 01:56:58 And it's just got like an air freshener like fan going. We'll call it the fart booth. Most air fresheners are scams. What? What does that mean? Do they give you cancer or something? They like mess up your endocrine system. Yeah, I've heard that before.
Starting point is 01:57:12 They're horrible. Every time I see it, just trash right away. Especially those little trees. I think those are the ones Especially like Febreze and all these other stuff. Horrible for you.
Starting point is 01:57:21 Absolutely destroys like your physical body. So what is this uh tag tak fuchi says apple deleted all their tweets and pulled ads head of the app store deleted their account they might pull the twitter app this as elon finally removes exploitation from the platform uh yeah did apple really remove all their tweets before steve jobs uh died i know that they i know apple was yeah apple's account good about preventing child exploitation on the apps on the app store wow but then ever since then it's been less uh enforced hermes bird says this guest sounds exactly like desantis it's uncanny doanny. Do people tell you that, Darren? That you sound like Ron DeSantis?
Starting point is 01:58:06 I've never heard that before. When I saw that, I was like, yeah, a little bit. Like I can hear something. Aren't you in Florida right now? Miami. Oh, yeah. We're talking about it for the show.
Starting point is 01:58:16 That's correct. I think they just mean I'm very tired. Ah, yes. That explains it. People are mentioning Balenciaga. Is that what it's called balenciaga balenciaga there you go there you go is it c or g what i think in italian the c's a ch sound right it's not an italian brand it's it was founded by a spanish man and it's headquartered in france oh so so if it's french then it's probably just it's not it's not french though it's spanish
Starting point is 01:58:46 have you ever seen that viral video about the french language where it's like a yeah because they were like all these words are the same thing it's like and they all mean something different it's like okay i guess it's just a tongue twister though you know what i mean like we have those in English. We do. We have the same. Yeah. Raina, uh, Rhino Bada says, Bota,
Starting point is 01:59:10 that was, that was an Afrikaans name. Oh, there you go. He says, good morning from South Africa, where I always find your shows in my feed. Hey, that's cool.
Starting point is 01:59:17 Interesting. What's up? Who found it? Jason Lippert says, I'm in Canada. I have no issues finding show. Do you need a tissue there? Do you speak,
Starting point is 01:59:24 do you speak do you speak afrikaans i do to the most but my parents will say i don't but oh really yeah what is it like dutch and english something it's basically dutch uh it's like more like old dutch because we didn't get uh influence from like the spanish taking over holland and then you know creating the masculine feminine in dutch now but essentially it's like old dutch yeah a little known well how about that all right nate b says how do you know you aren't a stopping point tim i think we are i agree talked about this too i i've been saying for a while that the reason uh youtube probably tolerates us more than other shows is because they view us as a de-radicalization force or something. Or the way I put it is, YouTube wants to ban the right,
Starting point is 02:00:09 but they know that if they do, the right will go somewhere else. So they need to allow certain channels to stay on the platform so that if they ban half of them, the users will stay. And then they force them into this particular ideological bubble. I've long talked about that it's not going to change my opinions on things i guess but i will say this smash that
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