Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #665 Ye, Fuentes, Milo Join To Discuss Trump Dinner And Ye24

Episode Date: November 29, 2022

Tim, Luke, & Serge join Milo, Fuentes, & the one and only Ye (Kanye West) to discuss Ye's past comments and his plans to run for president. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I hope you had a good Thanksgiving. You were with your families or loved ones, or at least relaxed and enjoyed yourself. Over the past week, there was a particularly big news story that's resulted in a continued news cycle, which is now going on for over a week, which is in many ways unheard of. But right now, because Donald Trump went to dinner with Ye and Nick Fuentes, among others, he is now being denounced by Mike Pence, several Republican senators. And for whatever reason, this story,

for many reasons I suppose people have made, this story has persisted till today. And we are able to actually sit down with several of the individuals involved in that story, notably Ye, Nick Fuentes, and Malinopoulos, of course, who made the dinner happen. It's my understanding. I had the dinner invite before I met Milo. Okay, my bad, Nick Fuentes, and Malinopoulos, of course, who made the dinner happen. It's my understanding. I had the dinner invite before I met Milo. Okay, my bad, my bad. There you go.

So we're going to jump right into this story. I just overcomplicated it. Absolutely. So we're going to start with that. There's a lot we want to talk about. And you know what, man? This is a very big story. A lot of people have questions about, you know,

what were Trump's intentions? Why were certain people invited? And Trump, of course, has issued statements. So a lot of people want to know where he stands and more importantly, what happened there and why. And there's also the questions about what Yay24 means. And I'll keep that a little bit vague so that they can answer to that and speak more to that. And then, of course, we're going to get into a lot of different issues. However, head over to TimCast.com and become a member. We're going to have a members-only uncensored show, which will probably get a bit more in-depth on a lot of other issues. I'll just leave it at that.

TimCast.com, become a member, support our work, and we'll talk about more there. Smash the Like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us, as I mentioned, is we have Ye himself. Would you like to introduce yourself, good sir? You did it. There you go.

I think everybody knows who you are. And which of you gentlemen would like to introduce yourself? Nicholas, please. Hi. I'm Nick Fuentes. First time here on the Timcast. Thank you for having me. Absolutely.

What do you do? Oh, I'm a live streamer. I do a show called america first on cozy.tv all right and of course milo you were here a couple weeks ago yes i'm your best ever guest so we've been told that the episode with you was one of the best podcasts ever people really enjoyed hearing you speak i think that's accurate okay yeah thanks for coming back thanks i was wondering how i was going to to make it even more extraordinary the second time I visited, but I think I might have pulled it off. Luke's here.

Total sausage fest tonight. Welcome. My name is Luke Grodowski of wearechange.org. Today I'm wearing my Epstein didn't Epstein himself T-shirt, which you could get on thebestpoliticalshirts.com. And I think we should be using that word a little bit more, just like, you know, this YouTube channel didn't Epstein itself. And if this YouTube channel is Epstein, we will be streaming on Twitter. So, yeah, I started the T-shirt company after YouTube demonetized me. So the best political shirts dot com because you guys buy it. That's why I'm here. Thank you so much for having me.

And of course, Serge and I am Serge dot com. Pleasure, guys. All right. And I'll just pull up this story from the Hill, which is from earlier today, 5 p.m. Pence says Trump should apologize. It's wrong to give anti-Semite a seat at the table. This, of course, is related to a dinner that happened. And I was wrong a little on the details. So a dinner happened. Nick, you were there. Yeah, you were there. I just want to start off by how did this dinner come to happen and what happened? I was talking to Trump for about a month.

We had scheduled the dinner in October, and then he announced for president. He pushed the dinner back to November, and I've been pulling together a campaign. And after I put up the DEF CON tweet, a bunch of people that have been canceled, like Alex Jones, I started getting in contact with other people that were now on the, you know, the inside of the matrix. And Alex Jones producer said that Milo wanted to contact me. And here we are.

So that's how you guys got in contact? Yeah, originally. And then I suggested that we bring in Nicholas as an enormous extra brain firepower that he is. He's the most extraordinarily brilliant political commentator of his generation um and he's uh being treated just about as badly as anybody so i thought he deserved to be in the room too and um yeah that's that's pretty much how we got together so i have some questions about that but let's we'll we'll get through the dinner portion

of you know how exactly this happened what went down so this is how you get in contact the three of you how is it that nick ends up invited to this dinner and and what happened well he he was rolling with me i was impressed with nick and i was like just come to the dinner and we had uh karen giorno uh pick us up from the airport and there was a lot of back and forth there's another gentleman named Jamar Montgomery that was with us he's an engineer at Boeing and his

I'm telling him we should raise everyone's volume okay cool and we sat there and it was like when Trump came in we were I said do you want to sit alone? He's like no bring your friends in. So a big thing is like Trump had no idea who Nick Fuentes was.

And, but this whole, I just, I just got to go right to the heart of this anti-Semite claim that's happening this is something if you read the definition it it says you can't claim that there's multiple people inside of banks or in media that are all jewish or you're anti-semitic and that's the truth like it's the's the truth. What are we talking about? Blood Library, what do you mean? You mean? I'm saying, like, I've been labeled anti-Semite, right? So there's different beliefs about our bloodlines, you know, like the documentary that Kyrie posted. And in general, America has been left ignorant and history has been changed. So when we start questioning things that question the indoctrination, then you immediately get, you know, you said debanked or what did did you say happened to you or demonetized deplatformed

yeah demonized demonetized and what's so beautiful about this time is everyone got to see what's really been happening and now we can really understand we can see that ron emmanuel was right next to obama and then jared kushner was right next to trump but so we're getting right into it i guess right i was i was hoping to go for the news first before we got into all of this stuff uh i think i think the issue is one way put it, is you're expounding upon a localization issue that you've witnessed, right? Let me clarify. There are a handful of people that you see are Jewish in a certain place, and then you associate Judaism with the power, whereas I view that as not relevant to it. Like, yeah, you're substantially more powerful than I am, but I don't view what you're doing as an issue of black people.

Yeah, but have you ever heard the term the black vote? So it's okay to put us in one net, but it's not okay for me to put them in one net. Yeah, but I mean, that's the basis of the hypocrisy that people have been thinking about and knowing about and realizing for decades. We were all wondering how this dam was going to break everybody in the country was wondering what what is the root of this hypocrisy why can people talk about white people a certain way why can't they talk about that group a certain way and uh the the most the the wretched and wicked and oppressive prevailing orthodoxy of a cancel culture well it turned out that the one thing that was going to break the dam was the biggest star in the world and it took the biggest star in the world to do it um and and and now the dam is

broken so let me let me tell you my issue i i don't like identitarianism you guys are familiar with what that is well they started it and they've been visiting on us we're trying to break it when i was asking you about running for uh president you you admitted immediately said well you know you'd be good for the black vote and i I said, is that because I'm black? No, not just because of that. So is that, are you doing the same thing? I didn't say that was the only reason.

I said it was because you're personable to the common person and you probably would do well with the black vote. Absolutely. Just because I'm black is a lot of black people that don't like me.

Of course. I think race plays a role in a lot of things. Absolutely. And I think that's for- I think race plays a role in a lot of things. Absolutely. And I think that's for... I think the construct of race has really been forced upon us as just something for us to be woke about and just constantly talk about and use it as these like walls. Could you say the same thing about Judaism?

Well, let's look at the facts of what I'm saying, though. If you say in this neighborhood, where they gerrymander there's this amount of time so hey i wasn't doing that i was just gerrymandering the lawyers and the hollywood executives and the people at the bank that debanked me and then froze my accounts you know it's like we want to jump into protecting the idea that we can't put a net around something right but that's been my job as a producer to take uh you know a roy air sample and put a james brown drum and put it within a two two minute three minute song that's the way i actually think and that's the way i talk and now this morning i found out that they were trying to put me in prison because what they did

was i put i moved 140 million dollars into uh jp morgan and i said i want to talk to jamie diamond like look at me i'm just going in naive you know multi-billionaire like man maybe jamie diamond will let me in on some deal flow wrong and i'm just like banging my hands like i want to meet with jamie and i start complaining online and then they debank me for complaining and so i'm about to get debanked they're like you need to go to trump's the bank axo whatever you got to go I'm like, I've been trying to buy my own bank for the longest. And then we figured out how to get my own bank. It's like 50 million, 75 million. So I'm about to buy my own bank. But then as you're about to take the money out, here comes Adidas with a $275 million bill for marketing funds that they agreed upon.

Because I said to them, hey, I'm the marketing, give me the marketing fund, which proves by the response they got when they, you know, stole the designs and said, we're going to not call them Yeezys anymore. So this is what I was already fighting Adidas for. So I'm fighting Gap, get out of Gap, fighting Adidas. And then I deal with this little bit of noise from you know Zionism from the fashion world where they use this plant named Gabby who's obviously like some kind of CIA agent knows nothing about fashion this is a certain thing when someone can't dress you know that they're not like a fashion person they're just there as like the society like the control that they try

to use with celebrities which has now been broken, right? Cause you know where it broke. I know I'm okay. I want to get on like LeBron in a second, but I'm going to come back to this and just talk about this morning where, uh, you know,

I'm not going to mention her name cause she's a nice lady, but someone at Cohen Resnick tells me, and I've tell my, all of my finance people never use the term a lot, but they said, okay, you're going to have to pay a lot of taxes. And that made me feel like they're just waiting, like, we finally got them. We finally can put them in jail. And I was like,

can I still run for president in jail? I found out I could. So I was like, okay, that's fine then. It'll be okay. But if you were Jeffrey Epstein, they wouldn't touch your bank account. They would allow you to break the rules, regulations, just like J.P. Morgan and Chase did, just like Deutsche Bank did. So there is an issue to bring up with that. But when it comes to the race stuff, I think this is an important discussion to have because I think—

I have to complete this thought. You guys got to— Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. All right. Because I'm talking about literally finding out that they were trying to put me in prison this morning. Watch this. This morning?

Yes. finding out that they were trying to put me in prison this morning watch this so this morning yes so not you know not come to my house this morning but i found out okay so they froze they put a 75 million dollar hold on four of my accounts and then they said you owe a lot of taxes took me like six hours to find out how much a lot was they said well around 50 million dollars now i'm going to different cfos like okay so would this be tax evasion because i'm obviously not the most financially literate person on the planet i was just a child basically like when you become famous you you stop growing at that point i became famous at age 24 and i had handlers around i had my mom around different things and it was always like you go from one handler to the next handler to the next handler so now i'm having i i get to actually learn how to run a company i get to learn

how to uh you know uh to count really i had i was like pablo in a movie it was like i didn't even know where to put the money like literally making 300 million dollars cash but you're just like a high priced you know we're not going to use the s word just because it's like too passe to use it but it's like next you know next year i was supposed to make 500 million dollars in royalties and like no one needs this amount of money but when i would work on homeless shelters and ideas i'd have a contractor who won't say what race um and but you know they'd be tearing down the contracts it's all about you know position it's not about the amount of money that you have and you know to come in here

i feel like it's a setup to be like defending. I'm not going to go through another, like, I'm literally going to walk the F off the show. If I'm sitting up here having a, you know, talk about, you can't say that it was Jewish people that did it when every sensible person knows that. I mean, Jon Stewart knows what happened to me and they took it too far it was like american history x like my head was on the side of the curve and the exact people that i called out kicked my head we found out that my trainer was a mk ultra uh canadian uh intelligence he worked in the defense research and uh development uh in the canadian military essentially working on psyops in the canadian military this is harley pasternak yeah what i'm

saying is look they tried to medicate me they i was exhausted they wrongly diagnosed me and they they they when i asked them how much lithium did you want to put me on exactly it took them four days to answer because they were embarrassed about the amount right and i refused to take this right you understand that if i had taken the medication i would not be here and it would have been woe is he was deeply troubled we miss him we love his music though well they would have britney spears too i mean look they would have michael jackson or worse yeah so look what they did look what they did to britney when she went in she was tired she was exhausted she was in a bad way but 10 years of that medication wrecked her brain you can see it now you can see there's not much of her left you

you mentioned pasternak was the name uh yes harley pasternak that's the that's the text message that you posted that we were talking about before here's that's the lobotomy yeah before the show obviously i'm getting a bunch of messages from people and people are hitting me up and they're like you shouldn't host them they're anti-semitic they're right supremacists they're racist i do find the idea i do find it funny or weird whatever that you know nick they call you a white supremacist you're here working with or for you know one of the most powerful black men one of the wealthiest and was famous. But a lot of people were saying, on the right specifically, don't platform them. And I said, well, I want to understand

what they're thinking and why they're thinking it. They're involved in what may be the biggest news story of the past week, and we have an opportunity to sit down and talk about it. Because the red media controls both sides. It just said it as simple as possible. Jared Kushner was next to Trump. Ron Emanuel was next to Obama.

Since 1940, go ahead. I was going to say, isn Emanuel was next to Obama. Since 1940. Go ahead. I was going to say, isn't that an issue of these individuals? Like you're extrapolating. I'm not having, I'm going to get, I'm going to order with the last of my money that's available in a different account. I'm going to order a PJ before I sit and have another Lex Friedman setup conversation. When I'm literally trying, they're trying to put me in jail for my opinion but i'm not that i'm not gonna have that opinion i don't care about people the people those are

bots that are trying to tell you we realize look at pence he sold trump out you got i'm saying it's like i would have never uh wanted to do anything that hurt trump i'm on i'm on trump's side trump said things that hurt me he lied about me but, but I mean, he's known for lying. And when people used to tell me that he's a liar, it's like, I went into the trenches for Trump. That's another conversation. There was no one in my position that wore that hat. And all of my surroundings exhausted me.

It was like death by a thousand questions. I know I'm jumping to another thing. But what I'm saying is, I know you got a rep for your your your people online but it's like you got a person in real life that all right i'm not with it bro i lost the i i lost the money for the freedom of speech and that's what makes me the only american that we know that really deserves to run the country because everyone else your boy desantis trump whoever they they they raising a petri dish over on the Democrat side is going to play the game. Here's what I was trying to get to.

You went right into the anti-Semite thing. I think it's something that should be talked about. But if you start bringing this up, you're going to ask my opinion on it. I'm going to disagree with you. I didn't ask your opinion on it. You jumped into it. I don't care about your opinion. I like your opinion on how we win an election.

But I don't care about anybody's opinion, bro. I lost. They tried to put me in jail. They blocked $2 billion I had. But I told Farrakhan, I said, look, oh, is it anti-Semitic for me to say his name out loud? The minister. Yeah, the minister.

Obama met with him, too. Oh, he was. Yeah, I mean, theish people allowed uh obama to meet with the minister you know so uh farrakhan say what did he have the money the contract for the next four years if i hadn't done anything would have been 500 million dollars a year for four years what i was fighting for was the ip so my children could uh you know um i'm sorry just sometimes i think about seven thoughts at one time because anything i see i come up with like seven answers to it and then just choose what it is but but the thing is when i said my children the reason why my my kind of blocked, because it's like God is saying, you know, your children are going to be OK.

You know, baby mama's got money, right? God is using me. He's breaking me down, removing all of the, you know, richest person, all of this so I can serve him. And the more and more of those things are taken away from me the more I can be empty and be a vessel and be able to be used and right now it's like you're not gonna take if we can't you're not gonna take my pain away right the Jewish people say it's the holocaust this happened and you can't say anything about it we can't take their pain away no one's gonna denounce the fact that they tried to lock me up. That's what it is, because every time I'm just holding stride and it's like I didn't I thought I was more Malcolm X, but I find out I'm more MLK because in jail it was like a dog was biting my arm

and I almost shed a tear almost but I still walked in stride through it I think they've been extremely unfair to you who was they though? we can't tell you who they is I don't use the word as the way I guess you guys use it is them though isn't it?

I mean because when you think about it, consider it. In 2018. What do you mean it's not? What do I mean? Okay, so how about... Are you leaving? Are you afraid of the press?

He's gone. I'll say it right now. You guys want to bring that stuff up? Have the discussion. Not going to have a conversation? Have the discussion. You think he's going to come in here and say, here's my pain, here's my suffering. I'm going to say, I hear you.

And then he's going to say, and it was Jewish people. And I'm going to be like, okay, but don't you consider. I'm not going to do this. I refuse. Make sure he's cool. All right, go for it. Luke and I will have a conversation. So I can't say I'm surprised.

What do I even do? Other than ask him, please elaborate on this. Are you referring to individuals? Are you quite literally blaming an entire group of people for the fact that powerful individuals are causing you harm? I really wanted to ask Nick about his thoughts about MLK because I know they contradict his comments about that. But again, these are mass generalizations that don't really

help anyone in my perspective. They just kind of sound like they're opposition. They sound what they're kind of going against the woke mob that's always saying white men, white men are responsible for everything. When I see people just use generalizations, it kind of cheapens the conversations. It cheapens a dialogue that we could have here that I was planning to talk to about specifically bringing up like, hey, let's actually talk about this in a real concise way. Let's not get emotional. Let's not walk out of here. Let's actually control ourselves.

Let me tell all you guys outright. I said this is going to be a big issue. Before the show, obviously, people are going to bring up the questions of anti-Semitism. Why don't we talk about the news? I want to hear what happened with this meeting. I want to understand what Yay24 is and then we can do a longer conversation about any of that stuff

and Yay literally in the first five minutes says no I want to talk about a group of people and point to them whatever man you want to know why look you're not going to sit here and you're going to walk out of the room you're free to do so man

but literally I said a couple sentences about I don't think that's fair did I insult the man walk out of the room, you're free to do so, man. But literally, I said a couple sentences about, I don't think that's fair. Did I insult the man? He seriously can't handle it? He also left during the Pierce Morgan interview he did, but he came back. So again, we should be able to have this conversation.

What's up, Chris? What's up? Look, man, I wanted to talk to these guys about why they're meeting with Trump. I want to know what happened with the dinner because we hear a lot of rumors about it. I want to hear about their 2024 platform, which they were promising, which they were talking about, like they're going to be officially. Let me let me let me explain to everybody that, you know, unfortunate they walked out. Fine. Maybe they'll come back. Whatever.

This is the biggest challenge with dealing with identitarianism. I do not believe that the predeterminate factor in someone's worth, value, or agenda is based on immutable characteristics. Kanye is a black man. He does not represent all black people. There are Jewish individuals who work in banks. Dave Chappelle made the joke about Jewish people in Hollywood. And he said, but it doesn't mean anything. You got a lot of black people in Ferguson, it doesn't mean they run the place. The point is, me, I'm all about individualism, meritocracy, personal responsibility. That means an individual of any background

can be capable of anything. More importantly, we have employees here who are Jewish, who spend time in Israel and would probably agree with a lot of issues that they would talk about, especially as it pertains to America first,

you know, bringing jobs back here and securing our borders. But then it's just like every step of the way, it's like, bro, if you live in a world where a single group of people is haunting you, you're trapped, you're not going to get out. The issue is you can overcome anything. I understand, you know, and I empathize that there are powerful business interests that are coming at Kanye. And I will say this, because I wanted to get into the Trump stuff. When Kanye mentioned he got suspended on Twitter, then he gets word that Milo wants to meet up with him. Then Milo puts him in touch with Fuentes. My immediate question is, OK, my thought to myself, we really want to know about the inner details of this Trump meeting.

I guess it's not going to happen. My question then is, don't you think that, you know, if Kanye is going to say these things and then immediately start getting involved with Fuentes, that only amplifies the accusations made against him. But I guess if they genuinely believe these things, that's who they are.

I was dying to interrupt. I was dying to say a whole bunch of stuff during his conversation. I respectively didn't. I was waiting to counter back, but we didn't even push back at all, really. We didn't even really say anything crazy out there. I mean, come on.

We should at least have the tough conversations. We should debate these ideas. What does he think is going on? And I don't know. But I just wish people were, again, like, hey, you don't agree with me 100%? That's fine. That's okay. I'm not going to run away.

Come on. Let's have this discussion. Let's have this conversation. I really wanted to talk about Balenciaga. I really wanted to talk about Harley Pasternak. I really wanted to talk about Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle to talk about Harley Pasternak. I really wanted to talk about Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle talked about, you know, a lot of the things that Ye was warning about, specifically with people trying to drug him,

specifically with people trying to, of course, get him on big pharma medicines. He was, again, sent to, you know, he was institutionalized a couple years ago, specifically on November 21st, 2016. He's pointing a lot of this blame on this Harley Pasternak guy who, again, he's the one who's training Lizzo, Elliot Page. He was training Brittany Murphy. He trained a lot of controversial figures. And he is connected to Canadian military psyops.

That's, like, we should know what else is happening behind the scenes there, what else he knows. But we can't even get that. Before the show, Ye was like, this is funny. He's like, how do I become president? How do you win? And I thought it was a rhetorical question because like, why would I know that question?

And he was like, hey man, I asked you a question. What do you think? And I was like, oh, ballot harvesting. Like hands down. You go to door to door. He brought it up when he mentioned that I said that he would do well with the black vote. I feel like that's kind of oversimplifying what I said.

What I said was that he's a celebrity, he's a personable character. He appeals to regular people more so. If he knocked on the door and you said, Trump, Biden, yay, they'd be like, yay. But I do think that he would do better with the black vote simply because there's people who look up to him because they see they can see themselves in him. Now, let me let me let me elaborate. That's actually more of a leftist position, this woke position, because I don't completely disagree with every every component of what diversity is. I think that it's true that if you're a little kid growing up in this country and you're not white, but all you ever see on billboards and all you ever see on TV is white people, that means something.

That has an effect on you. And that's basically what I'm getting to. All I can really say is this. Bro, if I can't ask you questions, call me like, hey, but don't you think this is like localizing? He could have been like, I don't, you know,

I genuinely view it this way. And I'd have said, well, okay, I can only ask you the question. You're allowed to believe what you want to believe. But dude, like, what did I ask him? Like three questions about it it and he just got up and left like he's gonna come here and just talk and be uninterrupted before we started the show he said hey we're doing this show why don't we do it every week and and i'm like what is this is this is what is because you can't get enough on other shows i'm sorry bro this is not a show where you come in and talk by yourself and

say whatever you want and say things that are uh that that that warrant questioning at the very least at least for clarification yeah i mean everything should be questioned everything should be uh debated everything should be you know talked about we shouldn't stray away from uncomfortable situations we we decide to take things head on. Like we have our particular viewpoints. They have theirs. We it's obviously there's a difference. Obviously we believe in different things. Let's see which idea is better.

Let's see which idea wins out in the public sphere. Let's actually have that conversation. And it's kind of sad that we can't. I think it's funny that like you get, we got people in super chats who are like, why didn't you just let them keep talking and keep talking but that's not how the show works we we cut each other off all the time i just cut you off right now i know right this is this is this is our this is the way we do the guys i'm sorry man i'm not here to do a show where we let

one like look we had milo come on a couple weeks ago and he mostly just talked and i think there's there's something interesting there milo had been banned for a really long time and hadn't spoken out in years. Five years. Ye's been on a whole bunch of podcasts. So when we were talking about bringing them on, I said, look, man, after the Kyle Rittenhouse stuff, people were like, are you going to get him on the show? And I'm like, I don't want to chase after a dude who, like, he's in the news. Ye goes on Rogan before. He goes on Fridman.

And then I'm like, that's cool. They got those conversations. Then we were told we would get Milo Fuentes and Ye at the same time, and we could talk about this big news, because that's what we do. We are a topical news show with guests. We are not Joe Rogan Experience. We're not guest interviews. And so with Milo, we had him on, and it turned into something different because the man's

been out of the limelight for five years and came back and said Trump supporters want revenge. So here on this show, I don't want to tell you, man, he doesn't have to do anything. He owes me no no favors. He wanted to come on the show, but he didn't want to have a conversation. Yeah, I didn't disrespect him. We were nice to him. You know, we hung out with him before the show.

You know, we tried to accommodate him the best of our abilities, but he didn't want to entertain a conversation. I can't make him. He doesn't owe me that. He can leave. That's his that's his thing. You know, appreciate him him trying as best as he abilities, but he didn't want to entertain a conversation. I can't make him. He doesn't owe me that. He can leave. That's his thing. You know, appreciate him trying as best as he did. That's about it.

That's true. I mean, what else can you do, right? Look, you know, let me tell you guys some stories because I guess this is the show now. Welcome to the Monday night show. It was all hype and then all nothing. You know, I don't like identitarianism. I've never been a fan of people who've blamed everyone else for their problems. I remember during Occupy Wall Street, you had people saying it was the 1%. That was the cause of their problems.

And I'm like, what are you talking about? You got 1%ers here giving you money. You've got rich people down here supporting Occupy Wall Street, providing funding. You've got like George Soros money going into these nonprofits that are funding you to complain about rich people. The problem is varying agendas. The problem is varying agendas. The problem is varying ideologies. The problem is everyone fighting for power for what they want.

In Ye's circumstance, they're coming after him. They're trying to take away his stuff. They're threatening him with institutionalization, and I understand all of that. It's unfortunate that he's internalized this problem to, it is a specific ethnic and religious background that's doing it and i'm like bro it's specific people doing it to you you know what i mean yeah i don't know what else to say you can read super chats well i think super chats would be interesting to to spur on this conversation but we made it 27 minutes and youtube didn't take it down yay just got up and left yeah people people don't understand we took

a big risk tonight like i'm it was my channel, it was your channel, especially on the line, because again, we're hosting conversations that are tough, that are not easy to have, that we need to be ready for, that we need to, of course, counter ideas just to let the best idea win. So, you know, taking this risk is just unfortunate

that it played off the way it did. Again, he doesn't owe us anything, but this just should have done, I just wish it would have went a totally different way but you can't control individuals and if someone can't handle getting their their their assertions questioned well why did he get so angry about it that's my i don't get it i don't understand it it's not like we were confrontational it's not like we were rude uh i definitely i definitely disagreed with some of the statements and i was waiting to jump in just to have that conversation well here's my thing i don't know who he's talking about i don't know exactly what happened yeah and so when he

says a thing happened to me and i'm like but who did it what am i supposed to be like you've got a i'm sorry man like the idea that you've got a group of people of this, like, it just doesn't make sense. I'm sorry, man. It just doesn't. There's certainly powerful individuals who are friends with each other. Like I said, Bezos, billionaire. Bill Gates, billionaire. Bill Gates going on TED Talks talking about depopulation.

You've got, here's an example, Shane Smith, CEO of Vice, Irish Canadian guy, multibillionaire created a woke media empire. So when we're talking about censorship and silencing and he says it's like Jewish or whatever, and I'm like, but what does that mean? that are completely white European dudes. Antifa is mostly white European. They're not Jewish guys going around smashing up windows. This is the issue of people blaming a group of people when the issue is specific to something unrelated to their background. I don't know what else, man. How are you guys doing? I don't know. I might want to go downstairs and see if we can get him back. I think it's worth a try.

I'm going to try to talk to him, see if we can get him back. I'll read Super Chats. I'll read Super Chats Yeah. I'll read super chats. And, well, that was fun. We're just going to sit here. I guess so. We'll read some super chats because otherwise, that's it. You know, it is what it is, guys.

We try. We try. I mean, Luke is right. He has left podcasts before and then come back. Sometimes it just takes people. And it's probably a good lesson. It takes a minute to calm down and then you can come back after he needs to explain what he means right he can't just say it's true and i'm like what do you mean by the who you're referring to no i'm done i'm leaving it's like okay then i assume you have nothing

behind what you're saying right you and here and i'll tell you what else too because early on he said like how do i want to say ballot harvesting but i gotta say man if if this like why would someone vote for this right that's what's already been mentioned in the Super Chats as well. Yeah. Yeah, someone actually said, why would I vote for a guy who's, you know, going to act this way? Or, like, trust nuclear codes or something. I don't know. I haven't read it, actually.

Hey! Anna Claire's here. Hey. How's it going? Go over there. I'm going to be Kanye. This is cool. So.

It's yay. It's yay. Oh, sorry. Oh, my gosh. Did I just dead name him? Mary's here. That's rough, man. So what happened? Tell's Ye. It's Ye. Oh, sorry. Oh, my gosh. Did I just dead name him? Mary's here. That's rough, man. So what happened?

Tell me what's going on outside. So Kanye and Milo are departing. He is going to beat me up. So Milo and Nick and Ye are departing. They all just caught a car. They caught a car. They're heading out. They don't seem angry, but they just...

Kanye specifically said that he felt as though he should have been able to keep talking. He feels like not enough people are expressing this view. And he felt like, sorry, I just ran upstairs. I can't talk. This is fun. He felt like perhaps cutting him off was not a good move. Milo felt like you were obstinately not getting the point

that everyone in the room was getting. They weren't explaining it. I think that they should have stayed to explain it. I wish they had been able to stay to explain it. Before the show, when I said, guys, I understand you want to talk about that. We have an opportunity to discuss this big news. Can we talk about the news before we,

and then we'll focus on what Yay24 is and what you want to do. But I think this is the problem with grievance politics. Instead of being like, here's my plan for America, it's they're the problem. They're the ones doing this.

Who? How dare you? Bro, tell me what your plan is. Tell me what you want to accomplish. Tell me exactly what your plan is other than they you want to accomplish tell me tell me exactly what your plan is other than they're harming me and they're bad people and i refuse to sit and listen to anyone who would say otherwise yeah i think one of the major challenges about tim cast as a format show is that it's not an interview it's the thing that i love about this program which is like

you may be an expert in something but what we really want is for you to come here and talk about the news with us talk about current events discuss and while you know i think we're all really excited to hear more about like all three of these people's perspective on stuff like it's hard i can't help it to yeah it's not a monologue so it's not it's not it's not that it's like hey guys can we talk about the news before getting into how you feel behind it yeah i understand really get into the dinner because he jumps immediately into he wants to talk about jews and i'm like are you kidding dude and i said you want to go right into that fine whatever so be it yeah but if dude can't handle a conversation about it it's it's insane to me it's look i'm not sure what he's referring to

that happened this morning he said he found out they want to put him in jail. But what exactly does that mean? Well, it sounds like what he was saying was he found out this morning that they're saying he owes taxes. And that if he doesn't pay them, they're going to lock him up

or something. Okay. And the thing that he walked out on was you asked him to clarify who you meant by they, specifically. That's pretty... Oh, right.

Because I said... You were saying they as in the corporate media. The establishment, powerful interests. I don't use the word they the same way that you mean it and then and then he got up and stormed up that's basically that's crazy i really that's a shame like i wish that you guys had gotten to have the conversation you wanted to have yeah i don't have it i feel bad for the audience honestly because i feel like that could have been a really interesting conversation and now we're in a position where I am yay and

you know. Who was sitting here? I don't remember who was sitting in this seat. Nick Fuentes was sitting there. I'm Nick Fuentes, guys. Don't we look great? No, I mean What do you think is going to happen? He did say that he would be back. Tonight?

No, not back tonight. Maybe he'll come back on the show. Maybe in the future at some yeah i doubt it dude i mean look man people how did pre-show go like what did you guys what was the vibe in here beforehand it was fine it was good and and and uh we should have just filmed the pre-show because they didn't even talk about this shit no i'm swearing they were we were talking about like it was it was it was religious philosophy, plans for the future. And I was like, this is really interesting stuff. I know they have these views, obviously.

And people are texting me about it. And I'm like, okay, here's what we do. Look, all they did was remove themselves from the conversation. They had an opportunity to explain what was going on and why and all that happened is it seemed like yay came in here and just went for every possible way to make himself look worse so what was like your burning question for this like you knew they would probably bring this stuff up you knew identity politics are definitely sure but that's why i was like i i want to know what happened like even before they got here i was like guys

we want to know about the dinner like i'm hearing a lot of rumors like, I want to know what happened. Even before they got here, I was like, guys, we want to know about the dinner. I'm hearing a lot of rumors. I'm hearing that, what was it? Ye asked Trump to be his VP or something. Why was Fuentes at the dinner with Trump? What did Trump say? Is this true? Trump didn't know he was.

Well, he said Trump didn't know who Fuentes was. That's what I want to understand. What is Trump doing? Why is everybody denouncing Trump right now? Is this a legitimate criticism of Trump? Apparently now it is. Apparently, absolutely. The report that Trump began deriding Kim Kardashian during that dinner seemed very strange. I have no idea why he would do that. I feel like there's no way to know about this dinner without the three people who just left this room which is uh unfortunate because that kind of dinner can affect so many people right there are americans across the country who will be affected by the conversations they had i would have loved to see

the transparency and kind of know what's going on uh and it's unfortunate that we couldn't progress further in that conversation whether or not you know we all would have seen eye to eye during it i can't believe he got so mad so quick i'm i don't know maybe he wasn't mad he didn't really seem mad when he was down there he just seemed uncomfortable yeah it's so weird i just feel like he's someone who has values and it seemed like he felt like he wasn't you know i know he and luke had sort of gone back and forth he said you gotta let me finish my thought. Maybe he felt like this conversation was sort of being structured in a way that wasn't letting him express himself.

It's not the format that he's used to, which is like a one-on-one. That's what I mean by like you, I think people aren't always ready to come onto the show because you are responding to current events. You are not being interviewed in a traditional way. People don't get this too, because we've had people on the show

who end up not talking about their specialties or anything like that. So someone might do a show on video games and then come on the show and talk politics. And it's like, right, because that's what we do. So for example, shout out to our good friend Blair White. Blair White pointed out that on the last show we did, she was like, actually, every time you've had me on,

we've never talked about trans stuff. And I was like, yeah, we talk current events and politics, and you're an individual who has opinions on it. That's what we do. I just talked to them outside. They're in the car, and I'm like, let's let the best idea win. You don't owe us anything. Let's have this conversation.

And essentially he said, you know, you don't believe in my truths. Like, this is my truth. You guys are denying it and I don't want to have this conversation. That sounds like leftist. That's okay. That's woke BS. And I'm like, look,

I disagree with you. And that's okay. It's not the end of the world. But we invited you on knowing you. And if you think you're right, explain it to us. That's what I said. I was just running up and down.

That's what I'm like disappointed by. I wanted to hear more from each person at the table about just what they're doing and what their vision is because even if you don't agree with them, they're really interesting and they are doing some really big things. Did he make any suggestion at all

that he would come back at some point? No, he's like, I don't want to have a conversation with you guys because you guys essentially don't see the bigger truth of what he... I'm like, those are your truths. Defend your side and let the best idea win let's at least continue the dialogue and conversation because people are going to

look at you right now and they're going to say you can't have a debate you can't even have a conversation that's what i told him but he can't nick or milo say anything back they're just kind of snickering laughing in the back it's like i'm like i'm like i'm like we had this big opportunity right here to to have this discussion to to debate it, to talk about it. And they're just like, no, it's not going to work. I'm like, fine. That's all right. You know, it is what we complain about with wokeness and grievance politics.

He was like, I just want to work. He told me he wants to work with me on food. And I'm like, literally, he was like, hey man i really i really want to work with you on the food uh but with this stuff like i'm just i'm just done i don't want to i don't want to have this conversation i feel like it's hard it's like i i want to know what this conversation he said i feel like without it like it's all speculation and it's a real missed opportunity i think for everyone involved here like even if you feel like you're gonna butt heads we've had guests on who are uh definitely opposed to both of you at the table who are definitely willing to push back

on the things you're saying and like it makes the show better i think it's better for everyone when you have tension in the room to a certain degree raymond g stanley jr says nick and milo set up yay set him up for what exactly? To walk out of our studio. To walk out? At least he came at all. There are a lot of leftists, I'm sure, who wouldn't have even sat at this table.

Before the show started, I was calling Milo Lord Varys. And he was screaming, don't call me now, stop it! And I'm like, okay, Lord Varys. And there's an aspect of this that I think is worth kind of considering when it comes to the kind of setting up

the kind of larger things happening behind the scenes here that I think is worth thinking about that you know we sadly don't get a preview into well I had a bunch of questions

right so we'll talk about those questions I'll answer them on Kanye's behalf no I think I think Milo is a genius just because but you know Milo's a very very smart guy and he's extremely funny and he's very, very witty.

And I think the most – the stupidest thing the establishment did was cancel him. The stupidest thing Republicans did was cancel him because this is Milo's revenge. Milo said on the show last time he was here that Trump supporters wanted revenge. And now the narrative going around is that what's happened with Nick Fuentes at Trump's dinner and with Ye is revenge on Trump because Trump's reeling from this. So you know what I'll do? Let's pull this up. Take a look at this tweet. We'll get some segments out of this. Igor Bobik. He is a senior politics reporter, Huffington Post. You know we love Huffington Post. He says, GOP Senator Thune on Trump, Fuentes dinner. That's just a bad idea on every level. Then he's got, what is it, Frank Thorpe, we cannot tolerate anti-Semitism. It's bad, says Cornyn Blunt. I've been tired about responding about what President Trump did.

I wouldn't want to have dinner with either of those guys. Ernst, I think it's ridiculous. The point is, every single Republican is now coming after Trump over having done this. And Milo is the one who connected it. So I'd love to ask Milo, you said years ago that you wanted revenge over over the treatment that you received after being canceled. Is this it? He's such an interesting figure for a lot of reasons. But it's hard not to think in the years that they canceled him, sent him back. He just sort of became more powerful and is now acting on some sort of master

plan. I mean, this candidacy, Kanye's potential run for president is disruptive to the party. It is the same way that any third party candidate entering a race can siphon off votes. We don't know what will happen if he becomes a stronger and stronger variable in this kind of dynamic.

I mean, I know we speculated about if Kanye moves forward, what happens with the Santas? Like they really do control a lot of the narrative right now. And I think a lot of that is to Milo's credit. I think I think to respond to my good conservative friends who are messaging me like, Tim, don't have these people on, they're bad people. No, no, no, I think you should all invite them on. Because I think if anything is bad for their ideas, it's exactly what just happened.

Yeah. And yeah, when he first came here, was sincerely asking like, hey, how do I become president of the United States? I'm like, we're not politicians. We're not advisors here but but you know we gave him some answers but he he was asking that question a lot it does seem like it's something that he seriously wants to uh you know do it talking to milo milo was like you know we we

can't say certain things because of the fcc uh but you know this is what we're you know kind of essentially how is it looking at we basically had an hour conversation in this room, the pre-show, as we're getting camera and lighting corrected, and it had nothing to do with any of that stuff? Right. Talking about religion, talking about philosophy, talking about what it means for a potential campaign

if they have one, and I'm like, this is cool stuff. This is going to be a good conversation. And then the first thing in five minutes, he's like, I want to talk about Jews. I mean, do you think it's like people- The first thing off the bat, I'm like, come on. Was it on purpose? Do you think it's that some people come into interviews knowing like they're

going to ask me about this? Because I'm sure Kanye or Ye, I'm so bad at this. But I'm sure a lot of people go into interviews especially when you're that big a figure with a target on your back thinking like some journalist is going to sit here and get me comfortable and then hit me with one of these questions that makes me look bad i think in some

ways it must be at the forefront of your mind going into interview like this is the topic that everyone actually wants me to talk about i don't even think you were going to ask about i didn't think you were either about about what stuff about his views on jewish power i i told them mainly ask about the candidacy i want to talk talk about it. Like a topical subject. Like our show. Yeah. Yeah. So like I had a bunch of people say to me, Tim, you need to denounce them right off the

bat. And I was like, oh, that's so tired. Like, bro, anybody who watches my show and who's honest knows that I don't I don't care for identitarianism, racism, anti-Semitism. But Kanye West is one of the most influential guys on the planet. He's got people who genuinely love and respect him. And he's got a bunch of ideas pertaining to what it means to run for president, what he wants to do, and why he thinks he's the best. So I'm going to talk to him about that.

And then I said, even before the show, I was like, who are we kidding, guys? I know this is going to come up, but, you know, we'll talk about it. And they're like, we get it. We get it. Well, I think it's like they never even signed the portraits. I think it's kind of like when they're skipping protocol uh no it reminds me of uh the times that we've had marjorie taylor green on right some people will hear that you're having her on and say you you can't do that she's controversial she does bad things

i don't like her and ultimately especially if you have some kind of tension against someone hearing them out and getting their perspective is the best way to form your opinion accurately and often especially i've known with marjorie taylor crane we've had people be like i just sort of wrote you off because of all the headlines about you but getting to hear your side and getting to your perspective has really altered my view maybe it doesn't make you a fan maybe it does make you hold on like all the media that are like d platform d platform it's like was that not a good display of the depth of their ideology none on unable to withstand five minutes of questions i wasn't mean i did not insult him we talked beforehand and i was like what do you mean by that i don't you know i said

i don't use the word they the way you mean i'm talking about like and he just gets up and walks out yeah like he doesn't want to hear what i have to say about my ideas but i have to sit here and listen to him you know you know what i think man there's a reason why yay is who he is they say that celebrities all of them tend to have some some degree of narcissism they feel that they should be seen by everybody and thus they end up putting themselves out more which increases the likelihood of fame and notoriety yours truly included i don't think i'm exempt for any of this stuff. I'm sitting here pointing a camera at my face, talking to it all the time, and I talk a whole lot.

But I think Ye is a guy who has risen to this position because he's assertive and because he's willing to do something like that. Imagine you're talking to a guy who's got a billion-dollar shoe empire, and you know that if you say the wrong thing, he's out and you've lost everything. Yeah, he owns the conversation. He does. So that works for him in business. Does not work for him in politics.

You're not going to get a single vote if you're going to storm out and not do anything for anybody. You know, there's a lot of things to kind of break down and talk about here. I have my own theories and assertions. And if you guys don't go along with it, I'm like, yeah, that's totally cool. That's totally fine. It's not the end of the day. But I think it's also fair to say that he's going through a tremendous amount of pressure, a lot of stress. And I think when he was, you know, institutionalized and drugged in 2016, I think there might be still, you know, I again, I don't know here, I'm speculating,

maybe some larger effects here, maybe he still hasn't recovered from that you know ssris and what was it lithium that he was talking about you know those drugs have have a severe effect on you and could affect your decision making um so you know well i don't i don't want to discredit him with that like the mental health stuff because a lot of people have said that i think it's worth discussing you can't listen to anything Ye says because he's mentally ill or he's off his meds. All of that stuff is just ad hominem. I think, you know, he's a 45-year-old man. He's extremely influential, powerful. He can make his own decisions.

And I think that he made the wrong one tonight by walking out. Absolutely. I'm just saying that this deserves also. Your life is really weird, Tim. You guys are here too. Don't look at me. It's weird for all of us. I really wish that they had signed the portraits.

It really hurts me, my perfectionist brain. Well, what can you do? But it's not that they were off the meds. It's that they were forcefully put on the meds. And when you look at a lot of people that are forcefully drugged, you do see a lot of long-term negative consequences and actions. Again, I'm not trying to excuse anything, but I think it's worth a discussion, especially when it comes to this Harley Pasternak individual,

the larger effects of this, the threats that were being made against them, the pressure he talked about going through a particular difficult, before the show began, a difficult situation with the divorce and custody with children. So again, tremendous amount of pressure and stress. No excuses for anything. Hey, let's debate these conversations. Let's debate these ideas. Clearly that didn't happen.

Clearly he wasn't ready. Some people are saying the whole thing was planned. I feel like him walking out or that you wanted him to walk out. Did they have a car ready? No. They were in the truck. They were waiting for him to walk out. Did they have a car ready? No. They were in the truck. They were waiting for someone to get ready.

No, they didn't have a car ready. I mean, I honestly, you know, as much as I want this conversation, I want it for the company and I want it for the audience. Like, I have a piece of, like, I have some respect for someone who's like, look, I'm done. Like, I think so often we are in a culture that demands people continue to talk all the time and if you don't want to you don't have to i am just sad that we didn't get to hear what happened at mar-a-lago i am sad that we didn't get to hear more of these perspectives because this is such an

interesting trio of people and it was worth hearing it is worth knowing because all we can do now is speculate imagine sitting down with trump too right trump i don't he's walked out on some but i don't think he would walk out like that yeah i want to hear his version of events of what happened here yeah trump you got to come on now because there's also a lot of other reports saying that he was screaming at that particular dinner with nick there that there was a big argument that there was yelling that was the point of bringing these guys on yeah not to like have him opine on his thoughts about an entire body of people that everyone's already heard before that's the crazy thing he like likened this to a lex fridman interview yeah it's like bro we're not here to talk to you about that we're here to talk to you about your plans man yeah i

told him this before the show and i say this you know i don't think i don't think yay's crazy some people are like maybe he's bipolar it's like dude we were talking to him before the show. He was of complete sound mind. Totally normal. He's just emotional. Would you do something different? Like you led off tonight with a story about Mar-a-Lago. Would you have led off

with something else? I'm just curious because then you're introducing our format. This is why I think someone super chatted saying they think that this thing was staged,

a publicity stunt because walking out generates more press because it gives the press something to write about. If they didn didn't storm off the press would have been like here are a few things they said but by storming off now there's a story about yay just throwing up and leaving and that generates press so it's like but it's not positive press if you're looking for political credibility i think that part of the reason he walked out and he's this uh emotionally

uh stressed out right now is because he has the soul of of an artist and not of a politician and that's usually a good thing actually well if you know if there's one thing we know from milo he understand he understands that any press is good press and he kind of utilizes that to his personal benefit i don't know maybe he thought if there was a debate maybe you know things wouldn't have not looked as as as good here and i don't know i don't think this is i mean i think we knew going in that we were going to have five enormous personalities in this room serge i'm sorry about that one buddy but you're much more low-key and that anyone was bound to become more tense it's just it was a question of how this dynamic would play out and i'm again sorry that it played out

this way because it leaves so many questions on the table i just don't want to speculate about mental health or the effect of pills or i don't believe this was staged but like whatever happened i just think that it would have been an interesting conversation do you think you want to ask him to come back at some point in the future no not tonight i'm not gonna ask him to come back dude he doesn't owe me anything he doesn't sit on my show he can leave whenever he wants so here let's be candid before the show i get a bunch of people saying like are you crazy don't the conservatives don't host these people they're trolls they're anti-semitic how how could you platform them there's republicans saying like we don't believe in platform host these people. They're trolls. They're anti-Semitic. How could you platform them? There's Republicans saying like, we don't believe in platforming these people. And I'm like, oh, okay. Like when Antifa showed up to Ann Coulter's thing, I get it. That was

more violent. But dude, don't tell me about de-platforming people that are in the news on a big story. Cause that, that means nothing to me. Why are they there? Why are they meeting with Trump? I want to know. And if you don't want to know that's on you, but I don't, I don't take this whole de-platforming thing. That being said, right now you've got people saying, Tim, you screwed up. It's your fault. Then I've got people saying, wow, you's a crybaby. I've got people saying, you handed it masterfully. Masterfully, I've got people saying, you did a miserable job.

Why didn't you? You played it wrong. I don't care, guys. There's nothing I can do. I am who I am. Before the show, people were like, have you been preparing? Have you been doing research? And I'm like, what does that mean?

Like, all I know is I told them what the show is. I have you been preparing have you been doing research and I'm like what does that mean like all I know is I told them what the show is I told them what the plan is I said if you want to talk about that stuff we should probably save it closer to the end because we want to talk about the news that's what we do on the show yay didn't want to do it he doesn't have to do it he doesn't owe me anything he's a rich guy he can do whatever he wants he got up and he left

so be it yeah that's what it is so your ultimate goal for this conversation was to talk about Mar-a-Lago. Did you feel like at any point today you got any information or any insight into how that dinner went? Well, we know Ye said Trump didn't know Fuentes. I think that's significant. I mean, they basically threw Trump a life raft.

Trump was reeling from this being accused of all these things and now yay basically came out and confirmed actually trump didn't know who he was i brought him there oh okay i thought milo set it up he's like no that was me and then i got in touch with milo and milo brought this guy and trump didn't know who it was i'm like oh okay so well okay then all right maybe that's why they didn't want me to do the show with them because they were going to realize that trump actually wasn't at fault no well there you go does it change your opinion of like i know you've been following kind of speculation about that dinner and speculation

about uh yay's campaign i keep on calling him the wrong name does it does this change like how you feel about this as a potential influence on 2024 you know what man i've heard a lot of people say that yay could win uh and for a lot of reasons like i mentioned because he's a celebrity and regular people know and like him but not if that's that's not presidential yay yay's a lot of things he's a smart guy they say he's crazy i'm gonna tell you we were downstairs calmly discussing things the dude is not crazy definitely not emotional maybe arrogant. Sure.

A lot of high profile people are. You can accuse me of that, I'm sure. And I think what happened now is a display of, he doesn't need anything from me. Right. He doesn't. And so if he doesn't get what he wants, he's done. So what do you think of the role of celebrities

in American politics? Like, obviously, we've had when Trump ran for office, this is like how most Americans knew him, right? He was the celebrity apprentice. He was a TV host. Like, do we think there is a market in American politics for people

who have influence but are not necessarily trained politicians? I just want to add this comment because we were talking about this when it was just me, you, Ye, and I think Cassandra. And he talked about specifically how Donald Trump was like the Michael Jordan of politics because he changed the NBA and made it something totally different. And he was specifically referring to how the political game has been changed, how it is totally different, how it's not just, you know, predominantly obeying and worshiping of certain political politician that changes his tone when he's with a certain group. So I think it's going to be interesting to see how this future campaign is going to be unfolding because right now it doesn't look promising.

I don't know if any campaign will unfold. That's yet to be seen. Well, that's not from, you know, the information't look promising. I don't know if any campaign will unfold. That's yet to be seen. Well, that's not from the information we got from... I want to give a shout out to Danny Polishchuk. Am I pronouncing your name wrong? Danny. We've had him on the show before. He's a good dude.

He's funny. He says, crazy that the one thing Kanye has been talking about for two months somehow got brought up on the show. I know. We never could have expected it. I don't know what we were thinking. Yeah, we knew. We knew exactly what was going to come up.

And I told them outright. I literally said to them, if you. Yeah, we knew. We knew exactly what was going to come up. And I told them outright. I literally said to them, like, if you guys want to bring that stuff up, I'm not going to sit there and let you just say whatever you want. And they're like, we know, we know, we know. And I was like, and who am I kidding? It's going to come up.

But we have an opportunity to talk about the news. And they're like, right, right. Okay. So you don't want to do it. How do you, like, I feel like people level, levy against you. Sometimes they'll call you anti-Semitic or they'll call you far right on him like i feel like people level levy against you sometimes they'll call you anti-semitic or they'll call you for right yeah i feel like people level well they call you negative things like how do you deal with it if someone was in an interview and was like

there's an there's a news outlet that tried calling me alt-right and had issued an apology and a retraction because they go after they were like tim pool who is mixed race is not alt-right we apologize for the for those statements so is that generally like if you're in an interview and someone's starting to kind of push back against you like is what's your protocol for what like if someone accuses me of something that it's not true or whatever yeah or is like you often talk about this and we don't agree with it okay you just let it go what am i what am i supposed to say like i think it's funny. Gizmodo reported May of, I think it was like 2018, that conservatives were being censored on Facebook.

And so then I'm on Twitter like, wow, look at this. Conservatives are being censored on Facebook. And they're like, Tim Pool falsely believes conservatives are being censored on Facebook. And I'm like, wait, what? You know, I believe what I believe. I said that the Kyle Rittenhouse story was one of the things that convinced me to vote for Donald Trump because I saw how insane things were getting. And this was so extremely dire.

And it was, you know know a lot of factors and then i get the media reporting like negatively that i said that i'm like i don't care if you view it negatively i literally said that trump pinned the tweet to his page it mattered to me you know if it matters to me i'll talk about it yeah i think like the thing that i've always known from being around you is like you there's protests in china China. Is that because of you? There's a lot of protests in China. Because of this? We're so influential.

Let's go. No? No. We're just like fact checking you. We're going to put you on the view, Hannah. You better stop right now. I don't like this at all. No.

I mean, what about you, Luke? I feel like people push back on you all the time. Have you ever walked out of an interview? No. No. But again, if you're gonna say some crazy stuff be prepared to back it up um have some facts you're gonna make some claims back it up let's have a debate let's have a conversation let the best idea win

that didn't happen today and that just sucks yeah you know what man i mean he reacted as if you led the interview like so you're anti-semitic i know he kind of said he said it himself from the very beginning he's like yeah i don't know if we should do this i'm just gonna do this and i'm like why are you setting this up this way there was no setup to be fair his setup i probably should have said i probably should have been like yay i hear you man i respect what the story you're getting to you want to hold off on that for a little bit maybe we'll talk about the news and then we can bring this stuff up he probably would have been like art i feel like there was a semantic issue here when you use the term they and then we had everyone sit off and be like yeah can we use the english language let's just keep going with the conversation here too let's keep moving on like

because that's who do i mean by they we should have been like a bunch of no no like as soon as he said i shouldn't do this like yes you shouldn't stop wait now wait we're gonna be talking about this let's hold on you should have been like hold on this is work at this time we usually go to super chats right before that i'll give you the nod and you can go into whatever you need to talk about no but then it would have we would have like i would like there's things that i need to bring up and other people need to bring up that that's counter to some of their ideas that need to be talked about he didn't want to have a conversation he thought he was going to come in here and be able to say whatever he wanted uninterrupted

and unimpeded and no one would question him that's just not the real world sorry man i think yay is a very smart guy and you know what's sad sad? I said too, look, man, I get all that stuff, like the Fridman stuff. It's stupid to keep bringing that up. I had people call me and they were like, Tim, the first thing you got to do when you start the show is denounce anti-Semitism. And I was like, oh, that's so dumb. It's so tired. And we talked about it and they were like, you think Ye is going to be happy that you're

coming out right away and being like, I denounce what you say. And I'm like, everybody knows what he said. Anybody honest knows. I think it's bad. I don't agree with him on it. We need to talk about other things. And you know, I said, I want to talk about how you've succeeded in business because we were talking earlier and one of the people who work here said, yeah, he's been able to go into every industry that's rejected him and flip it on its head and sort of take over. And I'm like, I want to to hear that i want to hear how it is that he's so influential it doesn't it doesn't happen so it's like it's not every personality who can do that look i've i've been to antifa protests i've i was at occupy wall street luke was there too this is the mentality that we have consistently argued against this is the same and like you know

for the people who are fans of the show, how many people have stormed off the show? I'm not going to bring up these individuals, but you all know. It's not people who hold logical, classical, liberal views, believe in meritocracy, or who believe in having a good idea. It's people who emotionally believe a singular group of people are the cause of their problems.

They can't handle a discussion about it. When you ask someone a question, I'll put it this way. If someone doesn't have an answer to an ideology they assert, they typically retreat to an emotional response. It's a defense mechanism. I'm hurt by this person. How did they hurt you? How dare you deny my truth?

A logical person says, well, they robbed my house. And is there a big difference between someone pointing to all white males being responsible for their problems to what other people making those statements as well? Is there a big difference?

I don't think so as well. I also feel partly responsible for this because I told Cassandra to get kind of yay on the show. I also was responsible for the other guests that also there was almost a

fistfight here with uh leonard bringing the controversy everywhere he goes listen here want to be hannah montana uh i feel responsible so i apologize it's all my fault i don't get it i'm sorry to the audience members for bringing bringing my twitter dms are lighting up right now from a bunch of high profile people that are commenting like they just destroyed themselves like it doesn't look good they they did not defend their ideas they couldn't handle like here's the thing i'm getting criticized because they're like tim why were you letting them say those things they barely pushed back they got like 10 words out no they were on for 12 minutes um 27 27 that's true 27 that's a good number i like that

number honestly that's the mark donald trump if you come on and can make it to 28 you win the new record we'll take it and 29 we basically let you stay in tennis chair no but i think that's one of like the best things that could have happened in this scenario like if if it was inevitable if we were doomed to have them lock out, I don't believe it was stage. The best thing that you could have offered them was a platform. Like that dinner is so interesting. So many people want to know what happened.

And so many people want to hear from them. Like this is a chance to get that side. And it was presented them like you platform them for them to be themselves. But the truth is they don't like, it's true what Tim said. They don't need this platform. They could have used it to their advantage nonetheless but they didn't need this platform he could have gone on any any social media and said what he needed to say about their dinner but it's specifically the format that it's a conversation that matters and yet

the expectation was a monologue well and it's the news like that was one of the things i was really excited about was to like have you pull up the stories about, like, what's going on with the World Cup and hearing, you know, Ye respond to them. Because, again, if he is pursuing a political platform, like, I'm sorry to do this. I don't know a ton about his positions on things. So it really would have been interesting to hear someone who is potentially pursuing the office like that uh give his perspective because i'm sure they're interesting like connie yay is a really interesting person he's a really unique thinker and i think that that is what we are all excited about tonight like we just want to know how like when when yay reads the news how does he come out of the out of

it the other side i don't know i'm reading leonard smirking over here i don't know what's happening chat chat room right now and every time i read the chat i have a i have a great time well yeah i most of the time i'm on this show i'm usually snickering in the corner here yeah all the chats we don't see about lewis is like he has three different screens up and you can see the chat going on one of them i got an idea for a segment what is it oh we're still doing news yeah hold on um we're still rolling let me see if i can find this story you're doing great buddy hold on hold on uh give me a second you guys talk about stuff while i google where i search for something yeah hannibal lecter go ahead yeah so i'm gonna sit here and present my own thought i think we should have another three guest show.

I think that, of course, we should have Lucas here back. But then we should have Donald Trump, Elon Musk, and Taylor Swift. I know that's important to all of you. It's important to me. I like to have a diverse tech perspective. That would be an amazing chemistry. I just really feel like we could all learn something about the cross-section of American culture. I think that Taylor and Elon would have some beautiful babies.

Do you think he's asked her? Do you think he's been like oh yeah we got it we got a segment for first thing tomorrow morning from brightbart.com kanye canceled by kanye walks out of tim pool interview and asks to defend asked to defend his anti-semitism i mean the bias that is spicy but like here's here's the crazy thing about it i i i was like letting him speak about it i said okay if that's me so some people are like tim you know you should you should have just let him speak and you tim only want to talk about trump because trump's a safe subject and he was scared about being banned and i'm like we said okay we're going to talk about it right let him start talking about it see we also weren't like defend your anti-semitism that wasn't like no no no it would

have been a it would have been a comfort it would have been a conversation that that would have exchanged different ideas there was different ideas coming from different points of view here that obviously would have clashed the audience could have decided which idea is better me and tim were sitting here with some of let's be honest here, some of the smartest, most intelligent, most creative minds in the entire political, social industry. And we were ready to have a conversation. We were ready to challenge our beliefs, their beliefs, and to come up with a discourse.

We came here for that conversation. The other side left. And I just feel like- I don't get it though. I don't get it. See, that's what I think the thing is. Like, I think the accusation of being anti-semitic is so radioactive that it puts everyone involved on the defensive both the people who want to um respond to the accusation and the

people who are levying the accusation and i can only imagine in connie's position that you are in yay's position i am so sorry yay uh that you are tense to be prepared to respond to it because you're on the you you are on the defensive all the time oh and i want to shout out hey greg greg price you're wrong he says yay got up and left the timcast studio less than 10 minutes into the show not true you tweeted it at 8 25 bro the show goat went live at 7 59 yeah it's 26 minutes 25 on the clock but uh it is what it is i thought i thought we were going to have that conversation in a member i thought yeah i thought yay wanted to actually like defend his position on it yeah if you're going to make some claims back it up well and like what what would you have liked to have heard from him like how would Look, my view on it is.

So like we had Bannon on and Bannon knows that if you question the 2020 election, YouTube gives you a strike. But he also knows I don't agree with him on it. And so he like it was funny because he like he knows and he looks over at Lydia and he's like, I can say that, can I? And then he starts, you know, talking about Donald Trump and fraud and stuff. And I was like, dude, now you brought up we're going to talk about it. OK. And Bannon entertained the conversation

of me disagreeing with him. Bannon's a savvy, smart guy. When we had, I think the first time we had him on and he and I argued about the election, I said, Trump got anti-elected because people assumed that Biden's approval rating was his, the enthusiasm for Biden was so low, he couldn't possibly win, but somehow did.

And I said, but did you look at the polls showing enthusiasm against Trump? It was higher than enthusiasm for Trump, according to some pollsters. And then Bannon was like, yeah, I like that. He was anti-elected. Yeah, interesting. That's very good. How often do you have a guest on whose views are difficult to talk about on YouTube? Because I, especially the vaccine stuff, I feel like we've had some where it's just, it's are difficult to talk about on youtube because i especially the vaccine

stuff i feel like we've had some where it's just it's just hard to talk about it like i remember we had the uh surgeon general on from florida but but he said everything he needed he was a government official but but you know yay had two people in his corner that are working with him that are also how do i say this uh master debaters that could talk about these subjects. You're 12. I just want to know you're 12 years old. That have been talking about these subjects for years and, of course, are ready to debate them. So he had people in his corner that were here with him, for him, ready to have his side.

There was three against two when it came to this conversation. Do you wish that you guys had gotten more time to talk to Nick or more time to talk to Milo? Oh yeah, absolutely. Milo was really interesting when he was on the show

and some people have said it's like one of the, like some high profile individuals reached out and said that was one of the best shows I've ever seen. It's really interesting to hear his thoughts.

Someone pointed out, Robert Spencer in Super Chat said, Milo is purposely making yay look bad because he really wants trump to win do you think i don't understand i don't understand that yeah i don't i don't really think that's how he operates um this like but i i i sorry interrupt i i thought like with them getting fuentes invited to to the trump dinner That was like really bad for Trump. He's getting like every Republican coming out against him. Like they seriously caused harm to Trump.

If Milo wanted revenge, that was it. This negated all of that. Ye came out and said, nope, Trump didn't know who Fuentes was. Milo's the one who invited him. Okay, so Trump's in the clear now. So now I have no idea what their plan was. Maybe just trolling, notoriety you know it might all get overshadowed unfortunately all of that information might get overshadowed who knows

do you think uh the yay campaign could meet the filing requirements to run for president like right now it's a hypothetical there's nothing in documentation right we don't have a paper trail of an informal campaign i i i'm i'm genuinely confused by whatever it is they're trying to accomplish to be completely honest yeah just trolling or something so what do you think's the best outcome from this this this you know uh look if you're if you're someone who disagrees with their views i think they just shoved their face into the mud like i didn't yo come on i've got people criticizing me saying i didn't push back hard enough and i shouldn't have let him say those things and i'm like but then there's also the framing that you're like the hero that asked him to defend his anti-semitism yeah like choose

a framing right also like those things are true though we got not even a quarter of the way through the show right there wasn't like at least give tim a chance yeah let's let some rapport develop we'll have uh i mean they tried to do just that in the pre-show but it didn't work i'm sorry serge we did in fact get the recorder my my false report officially this is real life man yeah yeah yeah i don't i don't like people who blame their problems on groups of people i like when occupy wall street did it with the one percent i said i mentioned this earlier like you've got wealthy individuals backing you uh you've got obviously people who blame jewish people you've got people who blame white people and i'm like man stop blaming everybody else for your problem and roll up your sleeves and chop some lumber work hard i get it you know i was

mentioning this earlier i talked to it i was talking to a woke dude years ago and he said people don't understand what it's like growing up being like a brown skin, like Hispanic dude in this country where all the billboards and everything are white people. Every movie you see is white people. Who am I supposed to look up to? So we look up to people in other countries. We look to people who look like us. And my response was, I think it's unfortunate that you need that you see race as a thing

you need is a requirement for what you need to look up to. But I do understand you have a family. Every day you see what you need to look up to. But I do understand you have a family. Every day you see your dad, you look up to your dad. He looks like you, you look like him. But then you look at what the country is promoting and none of these people look anything like you. So I can certainly get that. I hear you. But the reality is there may be dominant groups in every country. In China, white supremacy is meaningless. It's Chinese. If you're a Uyghur Muslim, you're in serious trouble.

It ain't the white people oppressing you. In the United States, the majority of the country is white and Christian. But you can succeed and you can become a billionaire. Ye did it. And then when he encounters problems with it, he decided the problem was Jewish people. I'm like, I think it's particular individuals who have it out for you bro not not like bro the jewish people who work at this company have literally nothing to do with yays troubles is that what he said like that was how he ultimately viewed his problems or yes because i i was like what what did they they mentioned i said what

about bezos what about you know shane smith what about uh elon and they're like oh they all work for jewish people and i'm like what bill gates come on man i'm sorry dude i can't buy that i look vice is a great example i said this if you really believe that i think this might have been before the show i was like how do you explain my show and he said because god is on our side like what dude like you can't say that if someone is against me it's a specific group of people and if we're winning it's because god is here with us either you as an individual regardless of race gender orientation identity can succeed or you think everyone is underneath the boot of some group of people so what role do you think identitarian thinking has on the American public?

Because I do think the points about like we isolate certain racial votes, we use them as blocks to win. Identity politics and identitarianism aren't necessarily the same. They overlap. Identitarianism is government based on identity.

So or, you know, so I should be careful about how I say that. And I should probably try to clarify better. If you think that you are inhibited in any way or or i should say if you believe it is impossible because of your identity then you are is a disservice like you are being lied to there are uh there are people i know from uh the philippines the Philippines who are wealthier. Actually, I think it's like Filipino immigrants make like 90K to 120K on average in the United States.

It's not the race of the individual. It is their perseverance, their willingness to work really, really hard. I think the problem with identitarianism or identity grievance politics is that you start to believe you can't succeed because of immutable characteristics, seek to blame another group of people, and then you get chaos or violence. And that's what we see with, you know, from Occupy to the Antifa to the BLM stuff. Black Lives Matter going on protesting,

calling white, calling black people white supremacists. I'm like, you see where the ideology is bankrupt? So you get Candace Owens, who's a black woman, who has conservative opinions and they call her a white supremacist it's like okay your race-based politics are bankrupt that makes no sense to me they claim that luke being polish is a person of color and we joke about all the time because luke is a white blue blue-eyed blonde-haired man hey my people struggles are real uh but but there's a problem with generalizations there's always exceptions

to the rules and i think when you speak in over generalizations, whether you're blaming one particular race or all particular white men for your problems, you're just being intellectually lazy. I think there could be a real discussion to be had on a lot of very powerful people, on a lot of very bad people. But once you just start making lazy generalizations,

you hurt yourself and you hurt the major claims that you're making because you're also going after innocent people. You're also going after people who have nothing to do with your ills or your problems. You're going after people who, of course, aren't the source of your problem. And you're just pointing fingers at them, which is not fair. Mary's going to walk out. This is why the conversation with Kanye needed to occur, because I don't necessarily think that he is just making lazy generalizations to blame a group of people for his problems.

His problems are not ordinary problems that ordinary people face. And to the extent that we still operate on a meritocratic system, that is how Kanye became the success story that he is. But I think that he's trying to point out ways that his success is now being used against him. And he feels like he's being usedugning it for the right reasons but that machine does need to be investigated and talked about it that didn't happen tonight and that's what's so unfortunate about it there was just like there was too much miscommunication here for that to happen he said at the beginning of the interview it's like i'm i'm not allowed like they can lump together the black vote but i can't lump together this group's vote or what you know something to that extent i'm paraphrasing here and i find that interesting i do think that we feel i've always believed that americans are extremely uncomfortable talking about race and that makes it almost impossible to make any progress on that front because you are so afraid of saying the wrong thing and that's what i think would have been

maybe the best outcome of this conversation is to get someone else's perspective who right now is willing to take a huge risk i i know what you're saying like definitely there are people who are willing to blame their problems on you know know, everything's out to get me. This is by, you know, this is the system is is rooted for me to fail. But I also think that there are, I think, the way we view race has creeped so much into our government that we do have systems that specifically are designed to lift people up and unfortunately can make the playing field unlevel and hurt some groups of people. I don't think that we're able to fundamentally unpack

how we view race in this culture because it's become kind of a left-wing taboo. Ian is back. What's up, guys? No, Ian. All right. I want to hop in, brother. So here's, I want to tell you something.

They were, Nick was afraid of your crystal rocks by the way he was like please someone move these rocks for me please before the show

when we were all talking I would like Kanye would be in the middle of an idea and I would be nodding along and I would put up a few fingers

this is what I do when I signal like I've got a thing to say like people often say like you know Tim interrupts all the time I do but you know it's a show where we do do cut each other off maybe i do a little too much

look i try but i often do i'll hold my hand up and like not along like either because we got to change the subject go on to a new segment or go to super chats when i would do that yay would immediately stop and be like you want to say something and i'd be like oh keep going i was gonna after you're finished like before the show he was totally like i put my hand up and he'd be like yes observation i had reason i came up here i was watching the show and listening and and uh i think kanye is an empath he's uh he works off yay thank you yay you changed your name brother i'm struggling with this um and he works off tone like big time tone and in a room like this with six people when one person asks somebody else a question and then the third person answers and then everyone's like that's why he was thinking

of seven things at once at that right before he got up and walked out so it's just a different way to communicate yeah i think you're totally right in this room it's very hard to sometimes tell like it can feel like someone's not on your side more than they actually are or there's more tension maybe because people get animated and then you have to look over here and then the screen changes like you've been doing the show for a long time at this point like i know you probably feel that too when like you can't totally get the rhythm because at any time someone else is going to jump in free yeah it's like being a tornado a lot of times a really enjoyable tornado but if you're not used to it that's why it's confusing to hear him compare it to the Lex Friedman podcast,

because that's one-on-one. You're talking for nearly four hours together. You have complete and utter freedom to say whatever you want. But then this is supposed to be a conversation that pinballs around. That's nothing like Lex Friedman. Right. I feel like what he was saying is he was expecting to be, I guess, scripted questions or some kind of narrative or something else that was or i was happening or ulterior that's what he

was referring to or just allowed to monologue right exactly which wasn't which has never been the case for the show it's never been like that that's why i like it's why i watched it people wonder why he wasn't familiar with like your viewpoints or how you do things i told him before the show if you guys expect to talk about this stuff i'm going to push back on them yeah yeah of course of course of course well like that that's why i i'm like when people are like they staged it i'm like okay maybe think about this as i stated earlier if they stayed on the show and said things that everyone already knew they thought what's what's the story if they get up and storm out the story wrote was was put up on the internet within a minute of it happening.

Yay, storms out of interview. And they never got their ideas challenged or questioned. Exactly. They had two people that for, especially one, for years that were specifically debating this issue, that were arguing this issue, that again, were studying this issue.

We came to, of course, have that conversation. They didn't want to have it. Does walking out just mean all publicity is good publicity? Yes. The moment we got into the point of any kind of adversarial questioning, they were done and they walked out. They didn't have to have their ideas challenged, but they got the PR. I feel like the human race right now is coming together like with the internet.

And we're just at this weird stage of our evolution where you get these really different people. We're forced to come together. We have no choice. If we're going to this weird stage of our revolution where you get these really different people. We're forced to come together. We have no choice. If we're going to survive and create American republicanism and freedom and stuff, we have to work with people that we do not understand or like half the time sometimes. And it's just a weird, it's like mixing oil and water. You see these weird environments and things where it's too much for somebody one day and then the next day you're still friends. I digress but i i think it's to be expected these kind of things and it's not like a bad thing well you're also like an empath kind of yeah i don't know yeah yeah maybe

it would have gone differently and better if you had been in the room actually i think there's always more you know it's worth seeing in all perspectives yeah do it again we'll do it again who like when i talk to you i feel feel like you are 1,000% attentive to what I'm saying. And maybe the format that Kanye was in, sorry, Ye, was in here

without you involved in the conversation just didn't feel that way. Like, he didn't feel heard. We did have a good conversation before a show about Parler. And I'm like, I want to-

What did he think about Parler? Well, I want to federate it with mine's uh rumble and twitter so that they can all interoperate he was like what's that exactly and we talked about that he was super down with that we didn't get to talk about graphing yet but we will we will you plan to call him later i mean i think one of the things is mile has been on the show before so hopefully he would have familiar familiarized kanye with like the format and maybe that was just not like lost in translation. Would you have Nick back on his own? Ian, handle it for five minutes.

You got it, brother. Okay. Would you have Nick back on his own? Like, can we have these guests separately or was the power of the interview that all three were here? At this point, every day, every way, I'd have all three of those guys back on their own. They each deserve to speak and hopefully they'll get a chance to. I personally would have. I'm a open-minded,

sometimes maybe a little too radical, a little too eccentric. I'll have people on that like, why are you interviewing the devil, Ian? Well, I mean, let's find out why people think he's so evil. Let's get down to it. Yeah.

Did it take you a while to adjust to this format? Because it is like, with looking at the news and responding to it, like you're not necessarily here to discuss your expertise. Did that take you a minute to fall into line with yeah first it felt like a jam session i was treating like a jam session me and tim would come in i'd make as much noise as he was we were just splattering it and he would get frustrated and kept getting it was like this is at one point

he kind of said listen i'm the orchestra like i'm the the what do they call it the guy that's leading the orchestra conductor i tim's like i'm the conductor i'm like that's right i'm first trumpet it's not a jam session. We're not equals here. Tim is conducting this environment. At least that's how I treat the show. Yeah, I do. It's called Timcast.

It's not called all of us cast. Not communist cast. If you're not having your ideas challenged, what are you doing? I mean, come on. And we talk over each other. Me and Tim disagree. We argue.

We debate all the time. We had a big debate about Bill Gates and we saw things differently. We had a big debate about Bill Gates, and we saw things differently. We had a whole debate about the jabs. We had a whole debate about so many different issues. And it's fine. It's okay. And I think more and more you're seeing a lot of parallels from the left on the right.

So a lot of the wokeness, a lot of the blaming everything on generalizations, a lot of the kind of more emotional based aspects, a lot of the kind of ways that people handle themselves asking for more government intervention. I think it's almost directly the same in a lot of instances. And I think that's a fair critique that needs to be criticized, especially with people calling for more government, especially people who are trying to blame everything on one particular group. I think more than ever, we need conversation. We need debate. We need paradigms shattered. We need them broken.

We need to get rid of this thinking that some man or some government is going to come in and fix everything for you because they are not. No one's coming to save you. You can only save yourself. Personal responsibility, decentralization, localized community efforts are the way that this is going to be solved here. All right, all right, all right. Listen here, listen here, ghost girl.

Stop interrupting me. Do you sell a t-shirt with this on it? Hannah Clare, stop being rude. Can we get a whole vlog on a t-shirt? Listen, you women go start your own view show. Stop being rude and interrupting me. That's identitarian. It's called pop culture crisis. Thank rude and interrupting me i'm talking here about

a specific thank you very much i'm talking about a very specific issue that i think is worth mentioning now because again there are a lot of parallels between the left and the right they're essentially calling for the same thing acting the same way and and representing them the same way now you women go squawk at each other go ahead so lee Is there a specific story you would have liked to discuss with Kanye tonight? I mean, that was the thing that I really... I am so sorry. I'm not doing this on purpose. Hannah, you know that.

We already went over this. We already talked about this. It's like when people call you Hannah. Hannah, we already talked about it. I said, hey, I wish we would have talked about this, this, and this. No, but I'm just curious. Can you remind me what you said?

Harley Pasternik, the Canadian Psychological Operations. Dave Chappelle essentially warning on Oprah what he went through. Seems like exactly what Kanye went through. And this is what Ye went through. And this is why I specifically brought up him being institutionalized. Because I think there's a bigger conversation to be had with this Canadian military guy who worked in psychological operations

that is one of the bigger players in Hollywood. What do you know about him? I think there's a bigger conversation to have about that. There's a bigger conversation to have about Balenciaga and all the occult secret stuff that they've been kind of showing to the point where they have now deleted their Instagram and their Twitter.

I think there's a bigger conversation to have about, you know, JPMorgan and Chase and Jeffrey Epstein. So these were the issues that I really wanted to get into because I thought they were extremely important to highlight the larger parallels of it's worth talking about because when you look at the text message that he released between himself and Harley Pasternik, who essentially looks like he was the one that institutionalized him because he was at his home. He's the one that was threatening to drug him and to put him in zombie land forever to the point where playing with his children wasn't going to be the same ever again. That was a huge threat made against Ye. This is why I think it's important to talk about SSRIs, psychotropics, all the drugs, especially with the way that they have affected individuals like Jordan Peterson.

To think that these drugs that big pharma gives out like they're just candy doesn't have any long-term mental effects, I think, is a conversation that should be had. It shouldn't be a controversial one, since clearly there's a link there. Why do you think people are afraid to talk about this? Ian, you might have views on this too. Why do you think SSRIs or, you know, they call them mood-stabilizing drugs or whatever,

why do you think people are so afraid to discuss that publicly? Well, there's a big industry. There's a huge big pharma industry that has their money in their hands and everywhere that I think is worth criticizing, that I think is worth talking about. And this is why I wanted to bring up the conversation. Do you feel the same way about lithium or antipsychotic drugs

as you do about SSRIs? I think... Because there's a far bigger portion of the population taking SSRIs than antipsychotic medication. Exactly. I think a lot of the studies, a lot of the findings haven't really been officially kind of delved out. I think each person is unique. Each person is individual, just like their brain chemistry.

And once you start tinkering and messing around with people's brain chemistry when they're all different i think this leaves for a recipe uh for disaster so as far as those two particular uh different kind of substances i'm not an expert i'm not a scientist i'm not here trying to give you guys any kind of medical advice that's the last thing i would want to do i know you would want me to be but i'm not hannah calm down there believe lee that you could be the world's best doctor i know back to poland i know you would but what kind of doctor would you. Go back to Poland, go to medical school. I know you would, but- What kind of doctor would you be? Did you ever want to go to medical school? I have a lot of jokes that I could make here right now,

but I won't. Doctor of philosophy. No, but I'm being serious. Like, did you, you've always been interested in wellness ever since I've known you. Like, have you ever wanted to study medicine in any like serious capacity? Well, yeah, I don't think you need licenses

or permission to study anything. I've been looking into a lot of the scientific studies. When Dr. Drew was on, we talked about Paxlovid. I thought that was a very interesting, important conversation to have. And I think I've held my weight when it came to debating a lot of those very important, controversial ideas. But again, everyone has their own decision. And this is what me and Ye were talking about when we first saw each other. He picked up a bar.

I'm like, you don't want that. That's poison. Here, let me get you some good stuff and we got him some stuff without any seed oils without any high fructose corn syrup and i'm like you don't want to touch this you don't want to touch this you want to be careful of this and he was and this is why when he left as he was leaving he was like am i detained i'm like you're not detained he's like i want to work with you on food i'm like okay it's like you don't you don't owe us anything it's fine you exchange numbers no do us anything. It's fine. You exchanged numbers? No.

Do you feel like the American public is generally empowered to like, do they know enough about nutrition or medical industry? Like, what would be the best way to change that in your perspective? Because you are sort of self-educated in this sphere. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, each person, the best health advice I could give to an individual is to do what is right for you as an individual. Nothing is an all cure answer to everything. Everything is based on an individual. You got anything to report? I'm back.

I'm about to piggyback off what happened to him those text messages and how the industry tries to control people with these psychotropic drugs and has tried to do it with the dave chappelle who on record came out and said there was people running around me saying that i was crazy trying to get me to take these big pharma drugs he escaped to africa and literally ran away from 50 million dollars in a contract because he felt like he was going to be forcefully drugged by people in the industry that are trying to control him and trying to feminize him and dress him up as a little girl. There's a big difference between taking drug and being drugged. I have a very close friend that was drugged. He still has post-traumatic stress from the experience.

It's not just the memory of the woe, the walls are moving around. It's like, who did this to me? Am I even safe? Is life even real? And that follows you or can follow someone for years. So I think there's that conversation could be had.

I'd like to talk to Kanye about, I mean, if we were like going deep one night about our past and stuff and you're like, do you have post-traumatic stress? All right, let's go to Super Chat.

Sorry. No, thank you for the segue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't mean to cut you off it's just just that you're tired looking at my phone he's like this is my show don't forget i'm

getting i'm my phone's getting slammed i got a bunch of messaging me uh it's funny a lot of the people who are like don't do this tim are now going you did a good thing tonight tim what do we do we didn't do nothing they're gonna we do? We didn't do nothing. They're going to reframe it to the point where they said, Tim Pool kicks Kanye out of the studio. We should put a bet right now on which way this gets fun. Banishes Ye out of his studio for anti-Semitic rant. Or platforms terrible people. I want to announce,

we were going to have a members-only show, which I guess we don't have but we do still have a members only segment with them so we had a crew go out and film them on their journey here and then i guess what they were doing before they got here i'm assuming they filmed them on the way out so we'll we'll have at least that up I suppose. But let's read some of these super chats. And I'll try and read as many people who like it and don't like it. People are saying we should have talked about fish sticks. People have pointed that out.

All right. Bo Rye says, sorry, yay is a freaking baby. Tim put up hardly any resistance and just simply asked what he means. How can you be president if you can't even explain yourself? He has to talk to media politicians if he's president. Yeah. I mean, I got to say, dude, if he was going to be running for president, it would have been just someone yelling at him the whole time. You know what I mean?

Imagine, imagine Ye sitting down with Xi Jinping. And then him being like, hey, man, you know, you're building these military bases in the South China Sea. And then Ye and then Xi just tells him he's a weak, pathetic man and that he has no strength and there's nothing he can do to stop him, is Ye going to just walk away? Yeah, I don't know. And then what? I don't think that there was ever going to be a real campaign, but I'm on camera saying

that that's my prediction and if I'm wrong then clip me. Go ahead. But I don't think that there's going to be a real... We talked to them privately and it looks like they're taking it seriously. Oh yeah, You can learn magic. You got to teach a magic, dude. You think the words instead of say them when you look at someone in the eyes and your body language does the speaking for you. Even if they don't understand your language, your English or whatever, if they're Chinese, it still is the form of really legit communication.

The rebellious grizzly bear says, hey, Tim cast crew crew, people who only want to have a one-sided conversation don't belong in politics how can things really change without having a back and forth this is a major problem in politics today i agree i gotta feel like i was i was i i didn't i watched the lex fredman thing i don't i don't watch like the whole thing i don't watch a whole lot of other shows but i watched i watched it on while i was doing other things i guess that's what people do with podcasts yeah and particularly i watched the anti-semitic stuff the stuff that yay was saying and i felt that lex was talking in circles like i just i was not interested in it and that's exactly what i told them before i was like guys i get it i know what you think can we talk about what's going on with you guys in the news so we can elaborate on this and they didn't want to do it. It is what it is. All right. What do we got here?

Nunn says, yay's views notwithstanding, the show's format is flawed. No room for guests to speak. When Tim's ego takes up the whole room, Adam Krigler was right. Hey, I said I'd read ones that were not fond of me either. It's funny because people are like, Tim wants to be the smartest guy in the room and he's got a big ego, but I literally read you insulting me and I'll have on a whole bunch of other people who are either in different areas more knowledgeable than I am. And I'll give a special shout out to Seamus Coghlan, who I argued with adamant that I was correct about what abortion was specifically on the legal side. And Seamus told me I was wrong, turned out to be right. And then I had to apologize to him later saying I was completely

wrong about that. You were right. I had the legal definition totally incorrect. So that's the reason why you have other people on. We bullied him off air. Don't worry. Oh, they're throwing pies at me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hannah's evil. I'm really mean.

I don't know what's up, guys. She gives Tim swirling. You can see it in her eyes. You can't give me a swirl. I got no hair. Jacqueline Stoico says, Tim cast need a behind-the-scenes cameraman to follow them downstairs like Jerry Springer

would have been useful a couple times already I think we have three cameras on or something I wonder if Wesley got it well the thing is like we were all watching it and like we see his coat

go behind you and I was like who was that and then we get enough people sprinting to be like we've got to intercept like what's going on we should have a Jerry Springer

camera guy outside the door 24 7 ready at all times ready to go. But who's the father? Ghost Crusader says you should have pre-recorded the interview, Tim. You did nothing wrong, but I think Milo showed him the episode with you and Milo, and Ye thought it was going to be like that, where he can just keep talking.

That's a good observation. I agree with that. I do. I do. But even with Milo, we were like, wait, wait, hold on. I want to say this, and then we interrupted Milo a couple times. Yeah. Did you push back on things Milo was saying? I don't think Milo was saying like... I did.

Yeah, specifically. He was worshiping the altar of Donald Trump. And I was like, wait, are you really going to be worshiping Donald Trump? Like, are you going to be, you know, worshiping, you know... You're bringing up like foreign policy stuff. Exactly. But look, look, look. I explained this to them before the show.

When Milo came on, he had not spoken publicly in almost five years. Yeah. And so when he started talking and just was going off, I was like, this is a stream of consciousness that he's been holding it, holding on to. And to hear his thoughts is really interesting, considering Trump's going to be announcing or whatever. When they came here, I said, we know what you guys have said. That's been the news. We can talk about it. Who am I kidding?

It'll come up, but let's talk about new issues. Right. Like, that was my point. Okay, then you want to bring, and I said, if you guys want to bring that up, I will be pushing back. Don't expect me to just sit back. And Milo's like, yes, yes, yes. Of course, of course.

All I wanted for you to him was to look at Ye and be like so would you build the border wall like i just needed to know some platforms here or julian assange what's his position on julian assange i think he also talked about a ubi universal basic income that he wants to i've only ever heard him refer to like the utopia he wants to build but i don't know what that means i'm gonna walk out i'm out of here i remember on you're all welcome finally leonard is leaving when we had milo on a couple weeks ago for the first 15 minutes i kept seeing tim like put his hand up like that gesturing like he's gonna respond and it it was impossible and like milo kept going like a steamroller oh hey luke and uh and then at 15 minutes 20 minutes he just he just was like what this I gave up he just went along

for the ride after that and we just let Milo take it Ye was wearing a very large puffer jacket that probably well that's because it's 64 degrees in here it's where he keeps his secrets

his coat's so big it's freezing here he keeps his secrets he wasn't wrong about that he was right it is cold like are you guys do you have a window open

do you have a snow machine it's always freezing someone had the AC on. Oh. The window was open. That's why it was cold. But I went in another room and it was on cooling. I mean, I guess it's better this room is cold and not hot.

No one in the Super Chat cares about this conversation. So I will also mention to people, like, there are things happening. Like, my phone's blowing up. You know what I mean? Like, I've got to, there's a lot more to booking people than just, like calling them and saying come hang out so i'll just leave it at that and so one example is security and how we handle that and other things so you know i'll just say that all right let's see what we got here gabriel lopez says tim you are defending the people destroying his life he realizes a waste of time and cut his losses i wasn't defending the people destroying his life i was asking him who was doing it in fact i wanted

him to name those people which is why we brought up what was the guy pasternak yeah harley pasternak right and so what i wanted to do was name the individuals but he was adamant that it was just jewish people and i'm like okay dude is miscommunication maybe but like i wasn't trying to insult him i'm like can you explain who this is who are these people and when i said they's like what do you mean by they like oh come on dude have you guys ever had that phenomenon where it's you and two other people and then like the two other people start talking at you and they're both kind of giving you like their have you ever had that happen and it's like immediate defensive mode for me when i have that and there's three of us and

i'm like whoa hold on you're both coming out yeah there's i bet essence of that creeps into people around here because it's a big show with and then the energy moves so quick around here that's why i wish that the subject matter could have been something like lighter at some points like i would have loved to hear kanye's sorry yay's thoughts about contagious about fashion or about entertainment or about religion. Any number of things without derailing instantly to... Yeah, it's like, let's get the car out of the mud before we start. The car wasn't actually in the mud. We didn't have to do that.

Well, he brought it up. I wish he could have recorded that pre-show. We should have recorded the previous conversation that we had. I know. It was actually a really interesting normal conversation. It happens all the time in the pre-show but if we should have we should have recorded the previous conversation that we had i know it was it was actually a really interesting normal conversation it happens all the time in the pre-show yeah but and he's a beautiful dude kanye a human like when you make i make i kind of with him see his soul like he's a normal like a really good guy they were talking about are some sins more sinful than others and then yay asked milo about like a specific saint or like some certain passages and i'm like but we were like we like get up we're grabbing water and like we're changing the lights

and we're doing the cameras so we usually just don't record it do you think like i mean he's done other round table type interviews like is there anything else about this situation that you think like you were saying before like it feels more tense than maybe it is you don't have someone who's maybe... It was really cold in here. That might have something to do with it. But he did have his jacket on where he keeps his secrets. He had one on.

He had a big puffy jacket on. That might have had something to do with it. He hasn't done media appearances with both Milo and Nick present. No. This was the first time that that happened. I know because you're like a Nick fan. I'm sure this is like a pass.

Well, he was supposed to go on pop culture crisis with you guys afterwards yeah that was the plan and i had a lot of questions that i was wanting to ask yay um but unfortunately that's not gonna happen well it could happen i mean this is just like it's an example of what has to happen for us to have this conversation in public right because we're gonna need to bring people in that we don't necessarily think we agree with. Klaus Schwab could be in here next week. And that would be a good thing. Hell yeah.

I would love to talk to Klaus. I would love to talk to the bug man. I'd love to talk to Bill Gates. I would love to talk to all these people and have those hard conversations and have those difficult conversations. Do you think you know what's best for everyone else? Let's actually debate it it let's actually have that conversation what were you guys talking about when i was outside medical psychosis i think

eating the bugs and if you need to go to medical school to become a doctor um i would pose that maybe come come end times luke is our new city doctor luke had pointed out how kind or yay may have been stressed since uh they had basically drugged him when they had taken him to the hospital. And I thought there is also like a level of post-traumatic stress. If you've been drugged, it's different than taking a drug willingly. Armani says, Tim says we have to treat people like individuals when Ye referred to certain people. Yet Tim never stepped in when Seamus or anyone else has gone on a homophobic tirade calling us degenerates. And that is 100% not true.

In fact, I argue a lot about it to the point where some people yell at me like when we were talking about trans people and dylan mulvaney and then i was saying like these weird trolls do not represent trans people and like yeah i'm i'm i'm like left lib but probably like center left so free free speech, liberty, you know. We all have our issues. We all have our issues that we love to talk about. When someone believes that a government is the solution to any problem, it just straight up gets me activated.

I got to get going. I got to be like, hey, no. That's because that's my own personal beliefs. That's my bigger truths that I'm willing to stand on and debate and have a conversation on. Yeah. And, uh,

uh, you know, let's just read some more. All right. Mission says, Tim, can we just chuck it up that this was an unfortunate situation, not a setup,

not your bad on questions, just an unfortunate set of circumstances. It's just disappointing that you responded that way. I think that's fair to say. Yeah. Um, like I was saying before, like,

I don't know what they got out of this. Like maybe that just shows that nobody planned for any of this to happen. Yeah. Yeah. He's just, uh, look, man,

he's volatile. Well, no, no. I'm just being like, if, if he doesn't need this, why is he here?

If he's not getting what he wants, he's gone. Right. I remember when I worked for vice, everyone at the office's attitude was that they were lucky to be there. And when I left, they were like, Oh, you're leaving. And I was like, yeah. yeah and they're like why would you leave i'm like what

do you mean they're holding me back they're not getting me what i need i don't need i don't want to be here like i have i have something i need and someone else is offering me it like yeah and his his attitude is probably like what am i doing here with this guy i don't need him yeah he's right yay owes me nothing but none of them do i'm not i'm not I'm like, look, I'm disappointed the show didn't work out. We had plans for the after show and stuff like that. But I'm not mad. I mean, it's like a crazy, exciting night. It is what it is.

Couldn't have predicted that, you know? Yeah, same reason I didn't go to the Halloween party. I didn't show up because I get freaked out and with lots of emotions. It's just this empathic thing. That's why I'm in my room 98% of the time. You need to go exercise, bro. Yeah, we got to do that kickboxing class come on yeah you're right because that'll help the emotion probably yay could stand to do a little exercise too to to

help control in this hot moment that we're going through as humanity uh there yeah i understand why why someone might want to distance himself from high energy spence spence says wait trump gets criticized but you purposefully invited all three. Uh-huh. I'm not running for president. And Trump gets criticized because it's politics. And I'll get criticized all the same. And like I mentioned, there were people saying, Tim, don't host those people.

How dare you? Now they're going, you did a really great job. Yeah. When this is my issue with like the woke grievance politics. If you say like, I'm going to go talk to this person, they'll be like, don't do it. Don't do it. Look at when Vice covered Charlottesville and then all the leftist journalists are giving them awards.

Oh, OK. When Vice goes and interviews white nationalists, they win an award for it because they because it turns out in the end they made them look bad. But if any other journalist is I'm going to interview like, no, no, no, no, don't do it. Don't do it turns out in the end they made them look bad but if any other journalists i'm going to go interview like no no no don't do it don't do it it's wrong when i said i was going to go to sweden i advised people telling me don't go you'll help trump i'm like what do you mean i'll help trump if trump is wrong i'll prove him wrong no no don't do it then when vice themselves go to charlottesville with a white nationalist they get an award

these people are total hypocrites man and many times they don't even push back or debate these ideas. They just kind of present them as is. So that's another topic for discussion. Peas and Butter says they needed Tim Kess platform. They would not be here if they did not need you. I just, I, man, people who live in the grievance world get angry and don't want to hear it. They don't want to be on camera. They don't want to be interviewed.

They want to be able to say whatever they want because they know they're right, but they can't stand up to scrutiny. So if you've got an idea and you can't handle someone saying something like, what do you mean by that? And then you storm out. I don't think you mean anything. I think you don't know what you're talking about. That's it. I think what happened, here's what I think. I think Ye's life is being destroyed by a handful of powerful individuals. Many of them happen to be Jewish. I think he immediately sees that and says, this must be it. He makes a tweet about it.

And I think, didn't he clarify he meant specific people? Yes, he did. And then he gets in touch with certain others who are like, no, no, you were right the first time. And then start agreeing with him and, you know, telling him yes. And then he says, okay. But then he can't actually back those ideas up because there's nothing behind him right it is women don't don't conflate rothschild's banking empire with judaism that's for sure yeah okay for my amschel rothschild i like the way you say that like it's your personal slogan

i'm always telling people put it on the wall that's for sure it's like an embroidered pillow in your room don't i just got silk pillowcases by the way someone please embroider that pillow and send it as fan mail yeah that'd be great put on the wall behind i mean i've said it a hundred times tonight but i am just sad that we didn't get the opportunity to have yay explain both his views on this this issue but also what I really want to know is what are your platforms? If you're seeking political office, I want to know what your stance is. Look at what Milo said. When Ye brought up the, you know, who he has an issue with, like when he brought up this

grievance political position, Milo said, it's the hypocrisy that people are tired of. Why are they allowed to say one group of people but not another group of people if that's his position for yay 24 trump's got nothing to worry about yeah if yay came on this platform and said trump knew who fuentes was trump was all about it trump believes in it and then said and we're gonna we're gonna work on fixing the borders and like that would have actually hurt trump i think what happened tonight was the best thing that could have happened to trump it's kind of weird like if this was milo's revenge he didn't get it right he just saved trump whatever i don't know i don't know what his plan was people were like i got a message people are like hey they're using you tim

they're trying to use you and i'm like what do you think it is when someone goes on my show do you think like anyone who comes on the show ever is just like, I'm doing this for Tim's benefit? They're like, I want to go on the show to get more followers, promote my book, promote my movie. Come on, man. Come on, man. No, we just do it to be nice to you.

We don't want you to be sitting here alone talking to yourself. Yeah. AC Yor says, yay opened with, I'm going to walk if you do not 100% agree with me. He did say that. Yeah, not the 100% agree with me part, but he did say, like, I'm not going to have a conversation like this. I'm not going to. DJ Z says, applauded by the media, clear sign you were wrong. I don't know the media as well as Breitbart that wrote that.

But I'm getting commentators, like, just political pundits. Yeah, also, like, wrong about what? Like, I think you were right to have them on like it would have been a really interesting conversation it's their decision how they conduct themselves in the room and if they want to stay in the room that's not up to you i'll be honest it really was a good conversation regardless that he left or that they left 30 minutes of awesomeness and then about 35 minutes of awesomeness listen to you guys talk about it afterwards and then you guys came in and it's still good now it's even better because i'm here

yeah ian came and saved the show i was looking for you i was like where were you i was like i couldn't find you i went downstairs oh you did i talked to them i tried to get him back i almost went out there to see him before they left but i thought i don't want to mess with it the energy i just want to kind of let it flow and like you're saying an empath like do you want 100 people just like dog where are you going when you want to be alone you want to be alone yeah that's what i so there's a few things we were going to ask like milo in the past said he's jewish now he says he's not uh milo called kanye called yay sorry gay before at least it's been reported i've not explicitly seen the tweets one thing that we did get i did ask him about like as we're getting

ready for the show there's a post going around that's apparently purportedly from milo talking about how the united states need to needs to put christian interests above jewish interests and milo he didn't get a chance to talk about like this is what i wanted to talk about like hey there's news milo said he didn't say that he reposted that he was sharing what someone else had said and it's like the full context isn't even there he said he he uh wouldn't have phrased it that way but some of the points were correct. Would have been great if he was here. I got to ask those, mention those questions.

Then there was also the claims that Fuentes has disparaged black people, but was here working with and for Ye. We didn't get a chance to get any of that stuff. So it's almost like they couldn't. Well, I can't, you know, here's what's sad. Milo and Nick getting up and walking out because Ye did. Come on, guys. Yeah, seriously.

Bro, both of you are high-profile personalities. I'll tell you, before the show, Ye said, I've raised the profile of these guys. I said, and Milo was mentioning doing these shows, I said, Ye's profile could not be any higher. I mean, before or after this, it's crazy. Everybody wants to know what he's doing. And that was kind of a joke uh i suppose it was being silly like you know everybody everybody in this room has got some kind of career but why would you just walk out because yay did right i mean i think they think of themselves as a trio they're all part of his campaign and he's sort of spearheading them would Would you have Nick back? I know we had Milo before.

Would you have them back? I think we should potentially have them both back, but the issue is if they're going to walk out because Ye did, it's like, are they leading this conversation or are they just here for the ride? Yeah, because if me and you went on a show and you got pissed off at the host and walked out, I'd probably stay. I think that'd be the right move.

Yeah. What are you supposed to do? Because if he's your candidate... I don't think i would ever do that though right yeah that's the first thing okay somebody clipped that if tim ever walks out of an interview i may maybe i don't i don't want to say that because i'm like i don't know man everybody's human i mean i've probably walked out of some something before i don't know if an interviewer is intellectually dishonest and not willing to engage in a real conversation i think that you're understandably going to disengage, right? I mean, I think he just didn't. I mean, I don't think that that was the case with you.

You're not even an interviewer. You're just having a discussion. I like that he compared me to Lex Fridman. Oh, yeah, the Lex show. I like the intake. Can I get the brownie points from the YouTube algorithm the same way that Lex gets it? I think the literology or the connection

is that you and Lex are like logicians. You guys are both into logic, very, very strong logic. And Kanye is more emotional. Yeah. And that, so we sensed the logic in the, in the room. Sean Alexander says you can praise Jews as a group, but you can't criticize them as one group interests exist let me let me point something out when ye was talking about how

you can say the black vote but you can't say jewish people are are doing this thing it's like well hold on there a minute jewish people also in like in new york city for instance uh well actually i shouldn't say new york city because the wave of crime has changed things but they they do create demographics based on on jewish people like they do have a Jewish demographic based on voting and voting preferences. I lived in Bed-Stuy and it was a very, very strong, deep Hasidic community. And their politics were very, I don't know what the right word is, but like unique to that area is the right way to say, I suppose. When there were protests over certain issues, it was this one, like COVID lockdown,

they were protesting specifically them. You could point out Jewish people in New York are protesting. Nobody got mad about that. They get mad that like a handful of rich people are hurting you. So you blame those guys. You know, the people in New York City, the Hasidic Jews were being chased and beaten in the street. Like, that's bad. That shouldn't happen just because they're Jewish. Those people with those clothes are not doing anything to anybody. They're minding their own business.

They're having families. They're going to synagogue. They're good people. And evil, greedy corporate people, people that are using corporations to control the world, should not hide behind the veil of a religion. If you're going to call yourself Jewish and you're not living by the tenets of the faith, then you're a demon. If you're doing that with Christianity,

then you're abusing reality. And you're not. You're good. I feel like we're about to go into a sermon. Julie Bear says, I picked a good night to be a first-time listener.

I mean, maybe not. You didn't get to listen to anything. Also, this is not normally the structure of the show. We don't normally just play musical chairs. Can we turn it into a drama show? We are the soap opera. Mick Chilla says Milo knew exactly how it would look

to connect Nick and Kanye to Trump. It's already kick-started the racial argument against his campaign. Convenient Milo has been allowed to surface recently, and now this. I think Elon's going to reinstate Milo, like, soon. At Nero. Yeah, at Nero.

And potentially Nick, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he should. Nero is an interesting username for a professed Catholic. That's a good name. You could tell he was going through a hard... Isn't it? Maybe he'll change it.

Like a nihilistic period when he made that. Why couldn't we talk about that? Yeah. I mean, it's unfortunate that... Should have let off with a twitter i should have just pressed record the moment they sat down right yeah i mean literally should have yeah i mean that's a big mistake on my part hindsight but let them know beforehand of course well if you would let them know then it it would have changed the whole vibe so but it's so

weird that when the cameras were not rolling the conversation was calm and about faith philosophy and when when when we got into the stuff about you know like when i said i know it's going to come up i'll push back they said we want to talk about the christian values that need to be restored in this country and i was like well that's interesting but then instantly it devolves into i am going to make these assertions and and demand that no one actually actually ask any questions i gotta ask yay this question but i wonder if there's a difference between doing a show prerecorded where there's six of us listening to it or doing one live where there's 50,000 people, a hundred thousand people. Also, if that energy of those a hundred thousand people was heightening the situation. Cause at one point

I looked down at my keyboard and kind of lost track. And that was when Kanye was like, it was that exact moment that Kanye was like, I don't remember why I brought up kids. I was thinking about seven things. I was like, God, I just why I brought up kids. I was thinking about seven things. I was like, God, I just lost track of it. And then so did he. What's. That was my one of my favorite moments when he's like, yeah, sometimes I'm just thinking about seven things. I was like, I 100 percent relate to you right now.

It can be. Did he have a screen in front of him or was he just. No. OK. DJ Z says Lex also tried to be the one to correct Ye's wrong think. That's why he says it's the same. Save adversarial questions for the two debaters or do you mean same ever so um you know i literally wanted to be like yeah you're allowed to think what you want to think i'm not i i i i i don't think i'm going to change his mind that's why i told him before the show like people know you're

saying these things obviously people disagree with what you're saying obviously you found people who agree with you tell me about what you're doing in politics and what happened with Trump. Explain now that you're in these prominent positions. Now you're in the news, you're having an impact. Tell the people why. Well, you know, he did. He did. When I said, why politics? Why Trump? He said Jewish people. Well, okay, the people heard it loud and clear. That's exactly what your campaign and platform is. And now they know. And this is why I believe in free speech. Because I genuinely thought they were going to try to have something to talk about.

And if the only thing they can talk about is that they hate a group of people or they're concerned, I shouldn't say it like that, they're concerned a group of people have it out for them, no one's going to vote for you. And you will not amass any political power. And it turns out sunlight might actually be the best disinfectant. C'est la vie. C'est la vie c'est la vie

i i want to say this i'm not mad at him um i don't know exactly what happened i'm trying to text them and say like what's going on i'm not going to cry about it you know what i mean these things happen and i'll say it again yay owes me nothing literally nothing he can he's his own guy uh i i i hope i hope he finds his path man i hope he finds his path all right. I hope he finds his path. All right, let's just try and grab a couple more here, some of the later ones. All right. Brian says, Ye's point about the black vote versus the Jews and identitarianism was spot on.

How do you reconcile that? I did, and I'll reconcile it again. The black vote is a handful of working class, poor, wealthy, basically every single individual and the tendencies they have towards voting. When Kanye is talking about Jewish people, he's not talking about cultural identity, politics, conservatism, tendencies to vote liberal. Otherwise, he's saying, because there's a handful of powerful, wealthy people who happen to be Jewish, it is Jewish people who have it out for me. And I'm like, yo, like my, my guy and my employee who are downstairs and are very Jewish, they actually like your music. They're fans. They just don't like what you're saying about them. They don't have it out for you at all. That's, that's the distinction. Why, why insult people

who actually like you? Why make them your enemies? Because you've chosen to attack their identity instead of the argument. Yeah. That's very different. If you want to come out and say, Jewish people in New York vote this way, nobody going to get mad at you. They're going to be like, that's true. They are very religious. They're conservative. They tend to vote these certain ways. If you're going to say that there are a lot of liberal Jewish people in New York that

tend to vote this way. Yeah, that's called the demographic. We do that all the time. If you're going to come out and say that BLM is all black people and they're the ones causing the riots, you're wrong because Black Lives Matter is actually a bunch of white people. Like, I hate that people are you like I just put that. Look, man, I'm in Portland and I'm watching the Proud Boys march and I'm looking at Antifa. Antifa is a bunch of white people screaming racial slurs at a black Proud Boy.

And I'm like these you see, man, and they call the Proud Boys white supremacists. And I've told the story before the black proud boy got angry and he took it personally and he went to cross the street cross the line between the cops and a white white proud boy stopped him and said stop don't let him get to you man they're trying to get to you and he grabbed his hand and said you're my brother we're brothers don't take the bait something like that and i was like that's so crazy when it when it was antifa in front of ice detention center screaming racial slurs at a black ice agent i'm like dude these are the people

that i have a problem with the racists the anti-semites the people who think that your worth is based on what you look like or how or your your religion identity no obviously religion plays a bigger role than your race certain religions are very very you know like extreme i get it. But I'm going to talk to someone about their ideas and have an argument as an individual and not blame an entire group of people.

I get it, man. And I'll say this too. Obviously, demographics have beliefs and directions. But Kanye wasn't talking about that. He was saying they, referring to Jewish people, are trying to take his money

and put him in jail. And I'm like, dude, they are not.ish people are trying to take his money and put him in jail and i'm like dude they are not some people are the overwhelming majority 99.99999 don't in fact i bet a whole bunch of them actually are fans until you started saying this stuff they was actually that was the vague moment that everything got heightened and then he left was because i was talking about establishment powers elites corporate press the people who want power, the woke. This is the thing. When we say woke, they think Jewish people.

Interesting. Yeah. Who's they? I think I know who you're believing. When Ye and them, like before the show, when I mentioned something about cancel culture, he didn't say woke SJW. He said Jewish people. I see. And I was like like you don't

seriously people are kind of creating a demon creature like the woke mob like we've kind of created that or at least i feel like i have inadvertently uh that i've created like a demon because who is it i don't know man until i see their eyes it's a it's a it's a it's a reference to a cult ideology yeah it's a reference to uh an idea and i'll even say this i i say it all the time like i have friends who are leftists and people are like tim's lying it's not true i'm like no dude it's literally true they at when that tweet went viral where i said that there was a grooming thing at club q and that we need to prevent the violence but also stop grooming they tried claiming that i was promoting like this is a funny thing they're they're like spamming my

wikipedia trying to claim I endorsed this or condone it. I'm like, yo, my tweet thread was literally like, stop advocating for violence against people. Even the people you hate the most. We need law enforcement to handle these things.

They take it completely out of context. When I said that I have leftist friends who are like, bro, how could you tweet that? And I did, I had to talk to him and argue with him and be like, guys that, you know,

that's not what I'm saying. And they're like, yeah, but the way it came off and I'm like, well, so be it dude. Like I literally said, stop calling for violence. I'm advocating for violence. If you think it's the other way that you know that's not what i'm saying and they're like yeah but the way it came off and i'm like well so be it dude like i literally said stop calling for violence i'm advocating for violence if you think it's the other way around then that's you not me anyway you guys want to get any final thoughts before i guess we wrap up uh you go first no

are we gonna go in a circle to leonard unless the stick i'm good i think we already uh went around in circles a couple times yeah i feel like all I have to say is what I've said at least 57 times, which is like, R.I.P. This really interesting conversation that could have been. Is this our outro? We wish we knew you. I think this is the outro. Yeah. I'll say, Kanye, come back.

Yes. Ah, man. Come back to pop culture. No, just on my show, please. His name is Yes. I mean, that's the... I don't know for Yes. Yay.

But could you imagine? Yes. Yay mean, that's the that's the sign for yes. Yay. But could you imagine? Yes. Yay or nay. Yay was going to go on Pop Culture Crisis 2 with Milo. But could you imagine? I know.

Like there's a new movie out from Disney. Yeah, man. But those Jewish people. What? Dude, come on. Yeah. Bro, we got

I guess it wouldn't have gone very well either way. Yeah. We got a few minutes into the show and he went right off. Shout out Danny Paulistruck with that tweet. You nailed it.

I can't believe the thing he's been talking about for two months came up on the show. Sure, but right away. All right, everybody. Thanks for hanging out. Smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. We do have a behind the scenes uncensored view.

We filmed them on the trip out here and then probably storming off. And we're going to put it up. I think we're going to have it up tomorrow. And I think it might be going up as Cast Castle. I'm not sure. Like an overt real vlog, I guess. Just check everything, man. You'll find it. You'll see it. And we're going to put it up.

It is what it is. And then we'll shout it out, I suppose. You can follow the show at TimCastIRL. Follow us on Instagram. You can follow me personally at TimCast. To the people who stormed in to save the show after the guest stormed off, who wants to shout their stuff out?

Well, firstly, my gems are not demonic, Milo. I see you out there. I know you're listening to the show still. Thank you for putting your beads on my geometric patterns over there. No, that was Nick. That was Nick. Thank you, Nick, for doing that.

And yes, we will talk about fractals next time I see you, Milo. Have fun. Love you guys. See you. Bye. Hannah? I'm Hannah Claire Brimlow. I'm a writer for TimCast.com, and occasionally I suddenly appear in the guest chair.

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And yeah, and you'll see me tomorrow. Not, yay. Don't worry, guys. I'll be there on Tuesday. A Pop Culture Crisis with Mary. Yes. Speaking of which, you should go subscribe to Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube. We go live at 3 p.m. every weekday.

You're laughing at something, Tim. Someone sent me the video of what happened. And the look on my face when Ye gets up, I'm like, my eyes are like he's leaving. Your eyes are popping out of your head. I was like, another fight? Is it going to go down? Follow me on Instagram or Twitter at Mary Archivedived that's all thank you ghost girl if you're looking for the news of what actually happened today check out youtube.com forward slash we are change i

did a story about balenciaga on my members area lukeuncensored.com i talk about a lot of different weird stuff on there check it out lukeuncensoredensor.com. Splurge. Still a Ye fan. Still a Milo fan. Surge.com. At Surge.com. On Instagram. Twitter, I guess. I don't really use it.

I don't do the bookings here. You guys know what it is. Tomorrow is going to be amazing. Yeah. So Michael already announced this, but Michael Malice is going to be here. And it's episode 666. This is hilarious. Because before the show, I was like, you guys are on episode 665. And they were like, oh. And Ye's like, what does that mean? And then Nick was like you guys are on episode 665 and they were like oh

and Ye's like what does that mean and then Nick was like one less than 666 and he's like wow and I was like and tomorrow it's Michael Malice and they were like he's a Jewish anarchist no he was like he's Jewish and I'm like no he's an anarchist I mean both are true

he's like he's Jewish and I'm sure Malice is going to come on and have like a book's worth of intelligent things to say. We're big fans. Michael, we're excited you're going to be coming. Yeah. All right, everybody. We'll see you all tomorrow. Thanks for hanging out.

Cheers, y'all.