Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #677 Elon Musk Haters Come CRAWLING Back To Twitter In EPIC Fail Care w/Gene Hamilton

Episode Date: December 15, 2022

Tim, Ian, Luke, & Serge join Gene Hamilton to discuss Elon Musk banning accounts who engage in doxxing with real-time location info, Nancy Mace destroying the woke left by pointing out their hypocrisy, the Washington Post employees going insane after the company announces layoffs, and a bizarre story that tries to paint unvaccinated people as dangerous drivers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You know, because Elon Musk is the main character now, I guess, every news story is about him. But it's probably because he took over the narrative machine and they have nothing to do. They're trapped. These journalists are trapped in Elon's box where he determines what they can or can't say. And for the most part, he's allowing free speech. It's a coffee maker loop. What's going on? Coffee maker. So it's really funny

because we got a couple different reports about how these these Twitterati journalists are desperately trying to get off Twitter, but can't and they keep coming back.

And the big news with Twitter, Elon has banned Elon Jet, an account that was tracking his private jet. And he said that anybody who's posting

real time information about someone's location is doxing them. I actually agree. I think Elon, in the past, probably didn't think it was that big of a deal until his life was very much at risk. And then he was like, okay, now this is becoming a problem. Here's the thing.

The kid who posts these tweets about where Elon's jet is, he's still doing it on other places. A website, Instagram, Facebook. So Elon can't really do anything about it. But I get the point he's trying to make. So we'll talk about that. Plus Donald Trump says he has a major announcement to make tomorrow. I suppose we'll see what that is. And then there's a whole bunch of silly culture war stuff. We got a viral video from the Washington Post where masked employees, the Washington Post, no one's probably no one's surprised by that, are complaining that they're about to get laid off because the Washington Post is shrinking. They're losing subscribers. Jeff Bezos woke media machine is failing. Before we get started, my friends, however, head over to Tim cast dot com, become a member.

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love our animal friends. And Mr. Bocas, as many of you may be aware, is very, very sick. He's terminally ill. We don't know how much time he has left, but I really do appreciate all of the well-wishers. Joining us tonight, after you smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends, is from America First Legal, Gene Hamilton. Thanks, Tim. Thanks for having me on. Yeah, who are you? What do you do? So, Tim, my title is Vice President General Counsel of America First Legal. But look, we are a freedom fighting organization.

We are here to stop the woke insanity of the Biden administration, of the woke left, and to fight for the rights of all Americans. So that's really kind of who we are, what we do. We've been involved in a lot of the stuff lately in terms of this big tech censorship and collaboration with the government, stopping race-based programs that discriminate against Americans based on the color of their skin. You name the issue and we're getting involved in it these days. Right on. You guys recently had, there was a big revelation, the lawsuits you're involved in have exposed government collusion with big tech platforms. Right. I mean, look, it's one of several kind of channels that are going on at the same time,

right? Which is whether that's the Hunter Biden or the Twitter files with the laptop stuff that Elon's been exposing, whether it's this Missouri lawsuit that Eric Schmidt's been leading, or whether it's our own investigative work that we've been doing for a number of months now, producing stuff to show, hey, look, there were actually back-channel communications the government actors were making with Twitter, with Facebook, where they had channels that they were able to report what they deemed as misinformation or disinformation and get it taken down by the platforms, which should be shocking to everybody. But that's just an example of one of the things that we've been doing.

Considering, as I mentioned, Elon Musk is basically the main character, we're going to get into all this stuff, so thanks for joining us. We got Luke Rutkowski hanging out. Gene said he's going to be bailing us out of the gulags, so thank you in advance. I really appreciate that. My name is Luke Rutkowski of WeAreChanged.org.

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Thank you so much for having me. Hi, everyone. Ian Crossland here, iancrossland.net. If you follow me on any social media networks you want to, it's good to see you, Gene. And I'm looking forward to going deep on this, as we've been talking about this a lot the last couple weeks. And I'm glad to see that you've been so heavily involved. Sounds great. And we also have Serge.

Yes, I'm back. I'm back, guys. Ready for the show. It'll be a good one today. All right. We're going to get started with the more serious news that Elon Musk actually just dropped. And there's some news related to this. Elon said any account doxing real-time location info of anyone will be suspended as it is a physical safety violation.

This includes posting links to sites with real-time location info. Posting locations someone traveled to on a slightly delayed basis isn't a safety problem, so it's okay. So the big story today that's trending like crazy is ElonJet. And all of these leftists are like, I can't believe Elon banned ElonJet. He said he believed in free speech. Free speech means you can share public information. Elon just posted this only about 20 minutes ago. Last night, a car carrying Lil X in LA was followed by a crazy stalker

thinking it was me, who later blocked the car from moving and climbed onto the hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney and organizations who supported harm to my family. So this is crazy. Here's the story from CNN.

Twitter suspends account that tracked Musk's private jet despite billionaire's free speech pledge. Oh, free speech pledge. They say Twitter on Wednesday suspended an account that tracked the location of his jet despite his commitment of free speech, blah, blah, blah. Twitter later restored the Elon jet account Wednesday evening after the company posted a new set of edicts

that appeared to be designed specifically to justify the removal of the jet tracking account. The move comes after Musk has reinstated previous Twitter rule breakers. The ElonJet account, run by Jack Sweeney, a 20-year-old Florida college student, used publicly available flight tracking information to build a Twitter bot that tweeted every time Musk's Gulfstream took off and landed at an airport. The last post from the account prior to the suspension showed Musk's jet

taking off from Oakland, California on Monday and landing in Los Angeles 48 minutes later. Sweeney woke up Wednesday morning with a message from Twitter saying he'd been banned. Now, here's what I'm wondering.

Was this it? Was it actually Lil X flying on the plane and then a lunatic seeing the information shows up, starts harassing Lil X? And then I mean, this is not this is not a fight that Elon's on. So this this this this goes beyond just doxing Elon's jet. This wasn't about Elon.

This is a private jet which can be used by many people, can be rented out, can be commissioned. And because of that very serious uh harm nearly came to an individual i also want to mention that one story where who was it that rapper you mentioned this before the show surge that rapper who was like chilling with his girlfriend and she posted a picture of his burger oh yeah pb rock that's right and chicken and waffles chicken waffles correct in south uh south central and then someone walked up and just shot and killed him yeah i took it for his uh he's famous for his chains wearing a lot of chains around him and someone just felt like it was their time to take him yeah so what do you guys think i kind of agree with this policy i think you should

not be doxing doxing is real time exposing you know someone's personal information or private information i guess you would call it not like what like what hair color even things like that like what their name is what their address is what their phone number is what they look like those kind of data in real time to people you don't know is a form of doxing but the thing is elon's got to specify what real time means because is it five minutes ago is that still considered real time is it nine minutes ago like when is it now no longer real time we were we were talking about this uh ian brought this up before the show when we went to new york to check out the ads we put up in Times Square, Ian took some pictures we were going to post them, and I was like, wait, just wait a few minutes.

Yeah, I waited like 20 minutes. We changed locations before I put the picture up because we were standing right where I took the picture. And that was a smart move. You never know, real time, you know? Well, considering that rapper's store of chicken and waffles. Yeah, seriously. Makes a lot of sense.

Just don't dangle your gems in front of the hungry and poor. Like, don't show and poor. Don't show unnecessary data. Don't leave things in plain sight in your car when you go into the store. Hide your valuables. It's a good point, but it was like the analogy was very esoteric. It's like most people don't have gems to dangle,

but Ian's got a big pile in front of him. Don't leave your phone in plain sight in your car when you get out and go into the store. Stuff like that. Don't tempt fate. Yeah. Don't bring all your fancy dye to a game shop unless you want people to lust for them. And I think doxing is a form of tempting fate. You're like saying, you know, I'm not saying to do anything, but here's the info in case you want to kind of thing.

Yeah. Look, I'm in total agreement with you guys. It's the right policy. It's the right call. I mean, when folks' physical safety is that issue, it's a totally different ballgame. And mind you, the same critics who are calling, you know, complaining about this saying, Oh, Mr. free speech, whatever, are the same. A lot of the same folks who are probably saying misinformation or disinformation during the pandemic, were forms of violence or that

they're threatening, they needed to be taken down. They've lost their they've lost their baseline of reality and what's actually a threat to people and what's not. And your physical location, the safety of your family and yourself is paramount. And so that's absolutely something that needs to be monitored. But misinformation, disinformation, it's ridiculous. Yet they were more than happy to cheer that on.

Yeah, the word violence has been taken way out of context and blown out of proportion. Like it's calling someone a name even if it's a nasty name is not violent right it's not right you know uh and we need to really really be honest about what real violence is uh i think in order to use that term effectively well there's a lot of other things happening here that are worth considering uh there's also some people reporting that the elon jet instagram account is also being banned on Twitter and is being prevented from people giving the ability of sharing that URL. Just a couple of days ago, Elon Musk said that he's not going to be doing any open air car parades anytime soon. As, of course, a lot of people are saying that he might be getting Epstein'd.

As it's fair to say that Orange Man Bad has been replaced with Spaceship Man Bad. And right now the media, top level lawyers, a lot of powerful politicians, a lot of intelligence agencies aren't really happy with him and are putting a lot of pressure on him to the point where there's even lawyers right now going through his application for citizenship in the United States, seeing if he made a mistake, seeing if he lied, so they could try to renounce his U.S. citizenship, which is crazy. That's not true, is it? I believe so. Some random woman tweeted that,

and everyone was just like, who is this person? Why wouldn't it be true, especially with how much they're grasping for the straws when it comes to attacking him? I wouldn't be surprised if this was true. I wouldn't either, but some random leftist propaganda account

claiming that they're trying to revoke Elon's citizenship is very different from a news report at the very least. Like, you know, we got a video

of the Washington Post people getting laid off and freaking out. And I tweeted, you know, what's that word for when you derive pleasure from the suffering

of your enemies? And so we get it. We get it. Shout out to Florida. But I still would be like some random blue check saying it versus an organization putting their weight behind it. Not like I trust them a whole lot.

They'll probably twist and lie about it. But there's got to be some evidence. Well, you know, I think you're right. But at the same time, when we look at all the high level pressure tactics that are going against Elon, it wouldn't surprise me if people are doing this, not putting their face behind it yet, because it's more about sending a threat. It's more about trying to harass someone. It's more about trying to intimidate someone. And I think that's why this news was shared so widely today and talked about as significantly as it was, because I truly do see them grasping at the straws here and trying to figure out any reason to try to get him

and try to stop him from doing what he's doing. Because as we mentioned here many times on this show, he's changing the game here. He's creating a situation where people are finally able to speak freely. This changes everything. Powerful people, the only thing that they have is the consensus. The only thing that they have is people's ignorance, especially when they commit all these crimes against populations. So when you have a man promising to get rid of all of that, that's a huge threat against them. And this is why I think he's taking his safety more seriously than ever before. I hope, Elon, if you're listening, if you're going to subvert the empire, you got to do it subtly. If you tell them your plans before you

do it, that's what JFK kept doing. He kept telling them that he's going to disband the CIA and the CIA. And then they, you know, come out and they can stop you if you let if they know what you're going to do. I don't. So subtlety and decentralization. I don't think he's revealed his plan. I kind of feel like there's a couple of memes going around about how Elon is very much in line with the World Economic Forum on many, many issues. UBI being one of them, that he's got Tesla factories in China, and that he's praised the Chinese Communist Party in the past.

You know, look, the dude may agree with us on some key issues like free speech, but I don't think he agrees with us on a lot of issues. You know, I saw on YouTube, Hassan Piker, the leftist, made a video called Tim Pool confronts Elon Musk, where he actually says it's an unironic like of a tweet from Tim Pool, because I tweeted out that that gag where I said, you know, I used to think Neuralink was scary and dangerous. But then Elon bought Twitter and agreed with me ideologically. Now I think Neuralink is great and want to have my brain plugged into the machine and so he was like yeah great but then he got he got mad at me because i said look i'm just screwing around neural link is great you know but the putting in your brain

interface stuff is something else he didn't like that but i think there is something to it when leftists like that would agree like hey hey the neural link brain stuff is probably over the line you know we don't we don't we don't want to go there so i'm like well if that's the unifying thing and he actually liked a tweet for me bro i agree you know i can understand if someone's paralyzed they want neural link they'll they'll ask for it i don't like the idea that elon's outright said the goal of it is human one-to-one ai interfacing which in my view, erases humanity. But I think that AI is going to erase humanity anyway.

And that we're evolving into some technocratic, machine-first society, it seems like, where it's inevitably, we might branch off and have still like, you know, luddite humans that don't want, they want to live in the jungle and be away from electricity. But like, we're not going to be in this homo sapien form forever as the dominant species on earth so i think that we are becoming i mean we're already kind of cyborg and i love the idea of being able to type with my thoughts and be able to communicate with my thoughts because i think way faster than

my hands can type it's true but see that's what you think is going to happen and what's really going to happen is you're going to you you know, Phil, Phil made a really, really great point about this. Phil Abante last night, he said, you get the Neuralink. They don't tell you to do anything. What happens is you'll go out and you'll do something. You'll, you'll buy a McDonald's cheeseburger and the Neuralink instantly will give you the tiniest little dopamine hit. You won't know why, but you'll just enjoy yourself.

And over time, those micro hits of dopamine will start pushing you in a specific direction and shaping you into the person you never chose to be. And you won't even realize you were manipulated into being a puppet. The code and the algorithms are not free of the neural net. Everything has to be transparent. You need to know why it's feeding you, what dopamine rushes when, what levels. And ideally, you're setting those levels yourself um it will be complete annihilation for the species if it is not open source and free software you need complete transparency with a technology like this it's like i mean in a way

i was gonna say it's like running water but we really don't know what's coming out of our tap water either so if you think hacking a computer network is valuable wait till you can hack a person like there already is social engineering a field of you know hacker culture where people hacking a computer network is valuable. Wait till you can hack a person. Like, there already is social engineering, a field of hacker culture where people manipulate people. But imagine being able to pull up a keyboard, knowing the code because it's open source, then governments

develop exploits. There would be open source patching of these security issues too. Don't get me wrong. But you're going to see zero day attacks. You're going to be sitting in your room and you're going to be like, alright, let's the uh anti-government subversive show oh my brain's exploding and just oh no he got hacked we that was routed through a bunch of ips we can't figure out who did it you could do it so like it automatically shuts down if there's outside interference um how would it how everything everything is exploitable so as long as there's

any kind of read write capabilities someone will find a way to go into your brain and mess you up. You thought computer viruses were bad. Imagine that in your head when your computer is your brain. So there's a lot of potential for a lot of things going wrong here. And I think skepticism is our best friend moving forward. So we have all of these Twitter leftists freaking out. They're screaming, you know, Elon Musk is doxing people.

I thought he believed in free speech. And my response is kind of just like, I don't care what you think because you never agreed with free speech in the first place. So get off your high horse. No one believes you. But, you know, Elon pointed out that someone basically attacked Lil X

who was like, I guess, using his plane. I'm not sure if that's what it was. But we have this story, which I think is absolutely fascinating and on point. Nancy Mace taunts left-wing activists she exposed for extremist tweets with snowflake emoji. Oh my, oh my. So here's what happens. A bunch of these woke leftists, fake news liars, they make fake posts all day and night. They lie about everything because they're psychotic cultists. They're evil people. They're testifying before Congress. Nancy Mace asks, do you think rhetoric online is bad? And they all say, yes. Do you think it

leads to violence? Yes. Then she pulls up this tweet from Alejandra Caraballo, who called for the public accosting of Supreme Court justices. She then mentions, you know, someone went and tried to kill Brett Kavanaugh. And it's an epic roast. This person, Caraballo, is like, I need to clarify. That's not actually what I said. And she's like, it's right here. You said it.

And boom, major smackdown. When these people come out and they get angry at Elon and they're like, I thought you were going to protect free speech. And Elon's like, dude, don't share the location of my jet. These are people who are trying to use our good faith against us that we would believe in free speech. They want to justify the sharing of Elon's real time location data. OK, that's scary.

And it says to me they want him dead. I know it's a meme where like these leftists will be like, they want you dead. That's it. That's the Republican Party. But like, if they're actively calling for violence, if they've gone and thrown Molotovs into police vehicles and smash windows and quite literally killed dozens of people in the May George Floyd riots, and then Elon Musk is like, you know, for safety reasons, I won't be doing public events. And we're going to shut down real time location sharing. And then they go, oh, no. Oh, geez.

Our free speech. Oh, what are you doing? Yeah. No, they just want him hurt. That's where we're at. I don't think doxing people on the Internet is free speech anyway. Right. It is.

It is. I mean, it's free speech under the U.S. Constitution in the colloquial sense of telephones. And like, you could put a piece of paper on a telephone pole that showed a guy's face with his address. That was legal. But now that we have the internet, it's another realm of function. And this kind of thing is not – it's not like benefiting society to dox people. So I don't see why we support it as a form of free speech. I mean I guess it's a challenge.

It is free speech. You're allowed to say so-and-so lives here. We had a phone book before. Growing up, there's the white pages. You can Google search someone's challenge. It is free speech. You're allowed to say so-and-so lives here. We had a phone book, you know, before. Growing up, there's the white pages. You can Google search someone's address. It's very, very easy. So it's tough to justify when on social media they say don't post someone's address when you can just Google it and see it if you want to. However, I still do agree.

There's no idea expressed in sharing someone's physical location. There's probably some exemptions to this like if someone was at like the bohemian grove or something in real time and you were like they're here now look so i have to wonder if there's a a potential negative downside of this if if let's say for instance bill gates is in real time at Epstein Island and someone shares that, can they get banned? Or is Elon going to be like, no, no,

it's okay. You're exposing him being Epstein Island. No, I think he's going to be like real time location sharing is wrong. Erase that. What do you think? Look, I just keep coming back to the fundamental point that your personal physical

safety and the safety, especially of your kids, of your family is one of the most, especially of your kids, of your family, is one of the most important things that we've lost sight of amongst all of this. And so anything that's going to, again, this is a private platform, to make it so that at least it makes it a little bit harder for someone to actually find out where you are when there's real threats against someone who's high profile like that makes a ton of sense. You know, again, it's you just go back and you juxtapose it against the stuff that they actually were trying to take down the things that they were trying to flag as misinformation, disinformation, false information in their eyes was totally fine

and acceptable. But something that's actually going to physically threaten somebody or their family, to say that that's somehow wrong just lacks common sense, setting everything else aside. I think we also have to be careful to also respect journalism here, because I could see this being used to hurt journalism, especially when it comes to individuals like Bill Clinton meeting the people that were investigating him on the tarmac with the head of the DNC, like someone going to the Bilderberg meeting, some prominent individuals going and colluding with corporate individuals, or like the Prime Minister of New Zealand going to BlackRock. I think those are

all newsworthy events. How do we cover them without also compromising people's safety? How do we cover them without being censored online? I think those are bigger questions that I'm kind of left here after all this. I think you just don't want to dox them in real time. Like if someone goes... But if I'm reporting, if I'm doing a live stream outside of the Bilderberg meeting, right? And then Klaus Schwab, or let's just say eric schmidt you know walks down the street which has happened to me i go up to him i'm like hey eric schmidt what are you doing here is that considered something that will get me punished or banned i i hope not you know it raises some questions here um that that i think should be answered yeah because it's legal to

publicly to record someone in public yeah because it is in the public interest. Your politician meeting with the corporate heads, your politician meeting with secret groups of shadowy elites behind closed doors, making decisions for the general public is something that is important. But there are also a lot of crazy people out there that do want to hurt people.

And that's out of your control. How do you mitigate the dangers with actual reporting? I don't know. I don't have that answer. But, you know, I think the law says one thing right now, right? Like, what's the legal basis for all of this? Well, I mean, look, on Twitter, again, it's a private platform. And so Elon Musk can make whatever rules he wants for his private platform. But I think there's a difference. There's a difference between CNN or Fox or whomever interviewing some senator standing in front of the Capitol building. That's something that's not going to attract a crazy. That's something that's not going to make it that much easier for some rando to follow that person to plot things out. It's a totally different deal if you've got

like a flight tracker that's got your real time location location i mean would we be okay with a gps device that someone put on your car right and then they mapped it and then anyone in the world could know exactly where your car was at any point in time and someone created a twitter bot that was reporting on your location i i mean i don't think so no i don't think that would be good i'm just i'm finding it all funny because the left screams about stochastic terrorism where it's the the old concept oh won't someone rid me of this priest they're like you know uh chaya right chick libs of tiktok is a stochastic terrorist who you know incites indirectly all of this hatred so that people know to go do these things it's like like, okay, shut up. You're literally calling for violence

and then demanding we get to know exactly where Elon Musk is. Right. Come on. As they also say that words are violent. As they're telling everyone that having a scientific debate on a procedure that's been rushed through without any long-term studies, even just questioning that is dangerous

and it's going to lead to murder. I mean, these are very nonsensical, very emotionally driven individuals that clearly are there serving an agenda rather than trying to have an honest conversations about what is right about our rights and about what we should have is sacred. And that is our ability to say what we want, as long as we're not hurting anyone who decides how people get hurt. Again, that's up in the air here. And I'm left with that question. I don't have an answer to it myself. Maybe if you're doxing someone that's in a secure location, like you said, someone went

into a building, then maybe that's less dangerous than if you're doxing someone that's out on the street, out in the open. Maybe there's something there. What does Elon think is going to happen once we're all neural linked? And assume it's decentralized. Assume it's decentralized assume it's centralized there's there's no way if you increase the speed of information tenfold 100 fold hooking people's brains right to the machine everyone will know where everyone is all the time and there's no

there's no blocking that information you can't do it right and then i would think there would be huge amounts of rapidly escalating violence that would then settle, and then you would have a sense of calm. But then you would know who was going to be violent before they were violent. So you could stop them. Then you're in pre-crime, which is like minority report, where they're arresting people that haven't even done anything yet. So I don't like that. Maybe. I mean, depending on where we go with Neuralink, what might happen is the AI will start track.

It'll track everyone's brain patterns and then it will be like there's a 97.3% of the time when there's a mass shooting, the brain patterns look like this in this part of the brain within an hour of the attack. And then all of a sudden, some dude's walking down the street and

the pre-crime unit comes and grabs him and cuffs him and says, you're about to commit a crime. We could tell by tracking your brain. They'll do that. And then they'll go to the guy's trunk and they'll find all these guns. And then we see it's proof that we can do it.

And then I could see them starting like an entire, you know, a sector of the government is pre-crime. And then all of a sudden it's not working sometimes. They're getting people wrong sometimes. It's all for your health. It's all for the greater good, Ian. For the common man. Yes. For the collective. all for the greater good for the for the for the common man yes for the collective live in the pod eat the bugs and plug into the new world you think we're better

off and that will benefit society and space and in reality better as a borg unit or as a bunch of defined benefit like you know increase prosperity growth you know diminish um you know entropy if you followed star trek stuff you know there was a borg queen who was a centralized unit yeah and the the borg queen was like an independent mind that controlled the whole network to its benefit maybe a decentralized borg i've never seen a fantasy decentralized borg unit that might work better i think it's bad either way benefit is is it's an opinion i guess but some people probably think that all humans network together is a good thing and they want a borg that just seems like you're dead it seems like every individual human dies at that moment and then what you end up with is this collective hive of noise of of no merit

it's just a buzz it's just a machine i think individuality is is beautiful i think each little unique unique snowflake you know is something of value so that's what's worrying to me about this idea of of neural link in the long run but i don't know whatever we'll see where we go huh how about that that's weird yeah it's like ghost ghost in the long run. But I don't know. Whatever. We'll see where we go, huh? How about that? That's weird. Yeah. It's like Ghost in the Shell, basically. A lot of the stuff is what I reminisce of immediately.

But at least in Ghost in the Shell, for those that aren't familiar, anime and manga, like, you're an individual. Yeah. They cyberize your brain with nanobots and then you can interface with computers and stuff.

Correct. But the reality of what would happen, as we're already seeing with Twitter, is that we'd become a hive. Like, we're already turning into that just because we have cell phones as it is, which is creepy. Or do you think you'll get the neural net at any point, Gene? You know, look, I, who knows? Probably not.

I'm much more of an individualist myself. I don't like the idea of any kind of machine planted in me, but that's me. So, you know, look, but I think the point Timmy just made, which is you see the way right now, the spheres of influence and the power centers who have been using social media and who have been using these avenues of communication in the media have already formed a lot of this groupthink in our society. And we see the dangers that are associated with that when we have things like certain people are determining what's true and what's false. And anything else is censored and shut down and you're not allowed to say anything. And you already see some of that today in a way that you didn't see 10, 20, 30 years

ago at all. And that's just based on our modern communication and technology and social media. We go from like, ha-ha, we're going to make fun of these woke people on social media, and now we're like, well, we're going to plug ourselves into the brain, turn into a machine, and the world ends. Let's jump to this clip. We have this tweet from Clay Travis.

The Washington Post, which has lost 500,000 subscribers in the past year, has announced layoffs are coming to the paper. The meeting didn't go well. Oh, let's play the meeting for you. This is a high-profile, incredibly friendly. It's not a grievance session.

It's a question. It's a question. Look at Sorry. You just... You just... Ask the questions. Look at, they're wearing masks. What are you going to do to protect people's jobs? Are they going to be treated like the magazine staffers? We'll have more information

as we move forward. Thank you very much. So, as these people wear masks and whine about what are you going to do to protect people's jobs, we're talking about Neuralink and I'm like these people will sign up day one.

And I wonder if Elon knows that. He looks at these people and he was like, these people would put masks on their asses if they were told to do it by the government. They're going to get the Neuralink when we tell them to do it. They got the apps, the mobile apps. They got the ID cards. They all did it. Who didn't?

Well, it's the conservatives, the libertarians, it's the anarchists, it's the right, whatever they want to call it. These are the people who are like, nah, how do you convince them to do it? You got to win them over. That was the point of the tweet I was making, basically, like as if this is going to happen. These people, government's going to come out and say, oh, you know, there's a pandemic and there's terror. So you got to get the chip. Once you get the chip, then you can go to your Starbucks. But people like us, we're going to be chip, then you can go to your Starbucks. But people like us,

we're going to be like, no, I don't need Starbucks. I think they would also really love those Chinese COVID tests that they're applying to people up there. You know what? But I do believe that there is going to be

a larger financial reckoning. I think Elon is trying to do as many things fiscally responsible at Twitter right now, because I think he sees a storm is coming, especially financially, that is going to be correlated with centralized forces pushing a UBI, pushing central bank digital currencies, pushing for a solution that, of course, is going to greatly benefit them and give them more power over everyone else. So I think these layoffs are just more layoffs to come already. There was so much layoffs in the tech industry when it came to Amazon, when it came to Facebook, when it came to Twitter.

These are not accidental layoffs. These are layoffs in anticipation of the larger financial market being turned upside down because the last three years we prioritized safety, shutting down small mom and pop businesses over, of course, Walmart, Costco, and all these other billionaires that got richer more than they ever did before in their entire human history. When we look at this larger transfer of wealth, it was a lot of money. When we look at how much money the U.S. Federal Reserve prints, it's a lot of money. There's going to be ramifications for that.

I think this is the beginning sign of a lot of money. There's going to be ramifications for that. I think this is the beginning sign of a lot of other businesses that are going to be laying people off in droves to come the next few weeks and months. What do you think financially, Gene? What's happening here? I think almost everything you said is I would agree with 100%. And we are facing a financial reckoning. We're because it's not just issues like this but it's government with with the printing money with spending money on just anything just you know dealing it out like it's candy at halloween um is not a good way to run your society so there is a reckoning that's coming i i don't know what the the uh influence with the washington post though um with this with this particular video i mean, it sounds like they've lost subscribers from what

I understand. Yeah, half a million, I think. Half a million. That's a ton of folks. That's a ton of people. But look, I mean, you can't run a business if you lose half a million subscribers. You can't continue to end it. So hopefully it's a lesson that, hey, maybe they could actually try to report on some things in a little bit more of a balanced direction, but they're not going to take that lesson. These workers are going to vote communist in a balanced direction. But they're not going to take that lesson. These workers are going to vote communist in two seconds. Right. Washington Post is going to shut down or they're going to get fired and they're going to say, but our jobs are essential.

What do we do? I know. Let's vote for the government to nationalize the Washington Post. That's a good idea. Then our jobs will be secured. What they leave out of those ideas is that it's basically our jobs are secured by forcing other people to make food for us at gunpoint. Doesn't the CIA have enough black budget money to finance the Washington Post? Aren't they already doing it? I mean, come on, let's be real here. When their reporting is just based on anonymous intel sources all the

time, you would think the CIA would throw them a few bucks. Well, come on, CIA, you could do a little bit better. Amazon also, Jeff Bezos has a lot of connections with the CIA. So just something to think about here. But this is a big problem here because Vice News is also reporting that there's going to be layoffs. There's going to be restrictions at the company. Look at just what happened to CNN. It doesn't pay to be a shill. So that's a big learning lesson from all the corporate media that's dealing with a big reckoning. As independent media, I mean, you're doing good. I'm doing good. We're growing.

Yeah, we're expanding. If we had anywhere near half a million subscribers, that would be just absolutely bonkers. Game changer. I mean, absolutely. I just do the math. 500,000 members, and it's $10 a month to be a member at TimCast.com. Yeah, you're talking $60 million a year. At that point, that's a crazy amount of cash to be dealing with.

You could hire thousands of people. You could just basically gut all of your competition and hire up their employees if you had that much money. These are spoiled brats that are getting the diamond pacifier slapped out of their mouths that's what's happening here nothing else more i got a question so you know elon he rolled out the new color verification and uh if you pull this up we got the washington post they get a yellow badge and they say that you know yellow means business and i'm like i i could not but notice that all of the news outlets are yellow is that or is that was that on purpose is elon musk behind the scenes laughing and mocking them yellow journalism it's

a reference to just garbage you know garbage in yellow bellies uh stuxenhammer had a very interesting tweet highlighting the which one he said ha ha ha ha ha no no no he he said that this is the universal symbol for propaganda and sensationalism. And he's not wrong. But the Post Millennial, I think, is yellow. Yeah. And it's just, you know, I don't think it, they just made news organizations yellow. I just think that's funny.

It's like, wink, wink, nudge, nudge. I like it. When I'm looking at the Washington Post struggling right now, I think what's happening is these old things that used to rely on text because that was all they had in the 1960s and 70s and 80s and stuff like that. You didn't have internet video and it was very expensive to have a TV network. They're still relying on this lame-ass text. Text is

fine for what it is, which is to get a piece of data across it. There's no emotional value. So when you're trying to explain emotions, use internet video. You need to be hiring people to be making internet videos. Cut down your overhead wait they can be working from home man stop giving them tips and advice dude i'm just stopping they don't need the help let me let me they shouldn't get the employees i care about their shields for the cia don't give them advice i want you to to understand what's going on with the old guard versus a new guard and i'll use a

very simple analogy i want you to imagine a large waffle. You got a big waffle on your plate with all the little nooks and crannies. Is that what they're called? The holes in the waffles? Because I remember the Echo commercial. And so, you know, what this podcast is, is delicious, organic, fresh maple syrup.

Maybe from Vermont. And as it is poured over that waffle, it gets into all those little nooks and crannies along with the butter, and it's perfect every bite. What the old guard media is, is like taking a sheet of paper and placing it on top of the waffle. It doesn't get into the cracks. My point is, the reason why these kinds of shows and this kind of news is taking off is because we don't just say,

headline, as Roe v. Wade repeal looms video game industry stays silent what we do is we expand upon that we get in depth with it we all talk about we bounce ideas around then we ask the audience to talk about it so what i mean by filling all the nooks and crannies is we're trying to hit every crevice every point that we can whereas what the washington post does they don't even they don't even give you a blanket view they don't even cover the waffle. They give you this twisted line of butter that goes in a random direction, and you're like, what is this? It's not even the real story.

They're selectively filling certain points to make you think wrong things. I would say that independent media is raw milk butter. Washington Post is canola oil. That's a way for me to help people understand this personally myself. Margarine. Yeah, exactly. But Gene, what do you see happening? Because more and more independent media is getting a bigger voice. We're becoming more prominent. How do you see this kind of media landscape moving forward? Because it does seem like the old guard,

the dinosaur media, the prostitutes, the horse tree media, they're just going down in droves. And I hate to celebrate something negative, but it's good to see a changing of the guard myself. Look, it's really good to see a changing of the guard. The stuff that you guys are doing, the stuff that other folks are doing is fantastic. Because you're covering issues that people care about. You're talking about things in depth in a way that people care about. Not in a way that some person based in Washington, D.C. is deciding how to tell you about the information. You are engaging on it. You're having an in-depth discussion. I mean,

it's free. It's open. People like to listen to it. They're a part of the conversation. But another piece of this, though, with the old legacy media that I don't hear a ton of folks talking about is so much of the legacy media has been centralized and nationalized, right? And so every story is coming out of Washington, every story is coming out of DC, of New York, whatever. Local news, truly local news. We once had local newspapers all across this country that reported on things that affected things in communities, things that actually affected folks' everyday lives. And those have all gone by the wayside. And I think personally, that's a huge tragedy because folks don't even know what's going on in their own

neighborhoods, their own towns, their own local cities, but yet they can probably tell you what Nancy Pelosi said or what Donald Trump said, or what anyone said, because everything's become so nationalized. And if we can support local outlets again, or find a way to get the local news covered, and then with the independent outlets, cover the actual issues, I think we'd be in a much better place as a society. I think also another solution for Elon Musk there, instead of just having yellow verified badges, you should have glowing verified badges for all the Intel agency connected news organizations that aren't really news organizations. They're just doing PR for some of the richest people in this world and the special interests who are really in charge pulling the strings behind Joe Biden. So that's just my two cents.

And you know what he should do? These verification badges should not be optional. So like he's basically saying, if you want to get verified, you got to get Twitter blue. And if you're an official advertiser, you get the business verification. There should just be bots that are operated as sock puppets by U.S. intelligence agencies. He knows. And he gives them all, like, a glowing, you know, verification badge. And when you highlight it, it says, this account is verified because it's run by a governmental intelligence operation.

Now it'd be fantastic. Yeah, absolutely. Make them glow. Let me tell you why. So we just talked about how the Washington Post is laying people off. And I described the feeling as pleasure derived

from the suffering of my enemies. Schadenfreude. Let me explain to you why. From fortune.com. People who skipped their COVID vaccine are at higher risk of traffic accidents according to a new study. Really?

Okay. I'm ready to see every media outlet just gutted at this point. Just fire them all. We need to get some billionaires. Elon, Elon, you bought Twitter. You can buy these outlets for much cheaper. Just fire everybody.

No more. I can't anymore with this. What does getting vaccinated have to do with getting into a car accident? My guess is that they did a study or a group of studies and they found that people that hadn't been vaccinated

had gotten into more car accidents in the past. And then now they're extrapolating in some unfounded conclusion that it means in the future, they're also going to be at risk of it, which is insane. It's inaccurate. That's my guess. I haven't read the article yet, but let's find out.

I forgot who said this, but someone responded to this story saying that's because all the vaccinated people are suffering heart attacks in their homes and not driving their cars. That's one possibility. Who knows? I'm not a medical doctor. But again, this is desperate propaganda just trying to gaslight people to push a big pharma product that extensively is being used as a form of compliance for the general public.

I got it. I got to say, you know, as I always do, talk to your doctor about what's right for you. Right. Don't don't get advice from podcasts. I just got to say, however, if you go to your doctor and say, Doc, now I haven't gotten the vaccine. Am I at risk for getting into a car accident? He's going to be like, what?

According to Fortune magazine. Or I got another idea. This is a threat to all the unvaccinated people saying, hey, you're not vaccinated. You're going to get in a car accident here. We're going to make sure you're going to take this or else. How else? How else could they get so desperate?

How else? This is ridiculous. Last Christmas, I think Biden told people you're in for a season of death. Severe death and illness. And I remember being on this show being like that's not happening it's propaganda it's gonna be biden in a car and he's gonna he's gonna be like sitting like across the street with this engine off and he sees you leave your house and then he's following you and then he speeds around cuts you off and then t-bones you dr fauci fisher price car

biden gets out and goes come on man get vaccinated i don't think it would happen too late but it's possible that a society would track everyone that got vaccinated like the ccp has been doing tracking people and then start intentionally harming people that haven't been vaccinated and then blaming it on them not getting vaccinated not i don't think there's any evidence that that's happened but that could be a movie okay well to fair, let's read what they're saying. They say, if you passed on getting the COVID vaccine, you might be a lot more likely to get into a car crash. Or at least those are the findings of a new study published this month in the American Journal of Medicine. During the summer of 2021, Canadian researchers examined the encrypted government-held records of more than 11 million adults, 16% of whom hadn't received the vaccine.

They found that the unvaccinated people were 72% more likely to be involved in a severe traffic crash in which at least one person was transported to the hospital than those who were vaccinated. That's similar to the increased risk of car crashes for people who with sleep apnea,

though only about half of the people who abuse alcohol, which is fine. The excess risk of a car crash posed by unvaccinated drivers exceeds the safety gains from modern automobile engineering advances and also imposes risks on other road users, the authors wrote. All right. I wouldn't be surprised if where we're going with this is we're here by announcing that your driver's license cannot be renewed

unless you're up to date on your vaccines. I think they were already doing that in some places, like you need to prove a vaccination or whatever. But where that then brings us is no one's allowed to drive anymore. Self-driving cars only. I think this article is a self-owned. They did say that it might.

The headline says that it is. And then the first sentence is that it might so they're contradicting themselves this says they are at a higher risk and then the first sentence says they might be so that's a lie they're lying in some way and then it's exactly what i said earlier it was uh something in the past indicated that more people that hadn't been vaccinated got into 72 more car accidents in a study that does not indicate that in the future that will also happen that is not an indication of that ian stop questioning the science i don't even think this is science just well hold on hold on i can actually break down for you why this is true is it has to do

with risk i'm assuming there are people that are willing to take more risk it's it's real simple people who got vaccinated were more likely to stay home terrified of getting sick and people who didn't were more likely to go out and keep working true so what did they find well gee look at all these yes because people who go outside face danger yeah i love it and now there's going i'm telling you christmas is coming up and there's going to be someone in your family who's like well you should have went and gotten the vaccine because now you're going to get in a car accident and you're going to be like Ma, what are you talking about? That makes no sense. Well, I was watching the MSNBC and they said oh, geez. You'd be like

oh yeah, Fortune Magazine. Yeah, that's a verified trusted media source. What are you talking about? NewsGuard certified 100 out of 100. Alright, well that's got to come down. Yeah, obviously. You know. I was thinking about that Uri Besman up quote,

where he said someone who's totally demoralized, you could show them proof that black is black and white is white, and they won't, they cannot be taken out of this. And I'm thinking just, that explains it. And that interview is from, what, 40 years ago? Yeah. Where he's talking about demoralization. It explains how you can actually go to someone and say, here is picture of the thing and they'll be like nah okay well then what

do you do man if if there are people who just like eat this stuff up and believe it and they lack the ability to understand nuance what what is the end result half the planet implodes the other half just rebuilds if you do nothing but you can give people morale boosts great commanders do that great artists can do that and that will wake people up in their own mind you know and then they'll start to notice their surroundings you know this is what i was talking about with the washington post thing how when you watch a show like this we try and break down the story we try to make sense of it and if you read the news they just say this garbage. The headline should literally say, ridiculous study claims people who skip the COVID vaccine at a higher risk for traffic accidents ignores common sense.

And then it could have said right away, people who are getting the vaccine were probably more likely to stay home and people who didn't were probably more likely to go out. And if you go outside, you're more likely to get a car accident story's over have a nice day or they could have just said hey we're desperate we're getting being uh we're being paid by big pharma to shill for this just please take it uh gene would this news story make you take the vaccine well someone who's been in a few car accidents um you know um look i this is exactly, all of you guys are correct. You're making really good points, which is there are special influences

who are funding a lot of these studies and these polls and the things that you see that are driving news. And there's a failure from the legacy media and from outlets that are NewsGuard certified to actually report things in a way that makes sense to people. I mean, that was the most nonsensical thing you could ever imagine. Every American knows correlation is not causation. But here we are. And you see something like that. And if that doesn't strike, that headline doesn't

strike you as absolute insanity and divorced from reality, then you ought to go get your head examined. You ought to go get your head examined. You ought to go talk to somebody because there's something wrong. You aren't able to understand things clearly. Get your gut examined. It's probably a lot of gut trauma. Yeah, it is. But what they're going to do is they're going to try and find someone to affirm them.

Right. And then they'll just be like, please tell me I'm right. And they'll say, you're right. And they'll go, oh, it feels good. But I don't think those people are happy. I know that state of mind when people are like, please just put me back in the pod. But really, it's not like a blissful happiness state. Those people, they want more. And when they realize there's more, when you control your own reality, I think it's much more enjoyable for people.

And they do seek that out when they know it's available. You know, considering, I'd be willing to state, I bet you'll see other correlations in this way. Because, and this is just my speculation, the people who were scared enough, like the people who were not worried and didn't get vaccinated, probably went outside. So I bet you could find a correlation between people who are vaccinated and the amount of vitamin D in someone's system. People who are vaccinated probably stayed inside. And it's not just because of fear. It's because people in New York are more likely to be vaccinated than people in West Virginia.

West Virginia, you're in the middle of nowhere. And your neighbor is a football field away. So you're just like, I ain't going to touch anything or anybody. What am I worried about? You live in New York. You're in a cubicle smashed up next to people. And you can't go eat unless you get proof of vaccination. You're more likely to be locked inside.

You're more likely to get the vaccine. I bet you'll even find higher instances of organic food consumption among people who aren't vaccinated. Because there are going to be conservative people out in rural areas who are eating farm meat that's grass-fed beef and stuff like that. Yeah, there's a lot of different data out there. And I think there's also data that's not being looked at and ignored and not calculated that also should be. I see Florida making a big step in the right direction now officially saying that they're going to be launching investigations, they're going to be looking into the correlations, they're going to be looking into some of the possible big problems here. And again, data could be twisted and manipulated in many different ways. But there's a lot of glaring data that does complicate the picture of what we're seeing here,

especially when it comes to Sweden, especially when it comes to Haiti, especially when it comes to the countries in Africa. There's a lot of questions that should be asked here. There should be more data. There should be more investigations. And the only people doing them is a state of the United States. It's only Florida doing these investigations. Come on, we can do better. The truth matters here at the end of the day. We should be investigating. We should be getting the data. We're not, which is an absolute shame. Have you been involved in any of these investigations?

Look, I mean, we have some investigations about the communications between the government and some of these private entities that we've been undertaking that we started when Jen Psaki sat at the White House podium last summer and said, hey, we've been collaborating with these tech companies and we're flagging misinformation, disinformation. But in terms of the side effects of some of these things and in some of the, you know, being at increased risk of myocarditis and all of these other issues are things that, like, it's great that the state of Florida is doing that. That is the kind of thing that any objective, good government would do, is you search out the truth. You're not afraid of the truth. You ask the questions and you follow the line to its logical conclusion. Well, so tell us what's going on with uh we've got all these stories about

big tech colluding for political reasons you know dnc democratic officials reaching out to twitter things like that but there were there was also uh information pertaining to restricting covid we recently saw a tweet i think the hodge twins tweeted at elon and said did like let me guess you saw a tweet between the government and Twitter discussing censoring COVID information, and they posted a trophy. So what's going on with that? You guys had something recently, right? Yeah. So we've put out a number of things, a number of press releases that turn into kind of long articles folks can read through and see themselves, where we pull the documents.

We get screenshots, screen grabs of the text, and let folks, hey, here it is. Here's so-and-so government official talking to so-and-so at this platform. We've put a few different things out and we're putting these things out and we're going to continue to do it on a rolling basis because it's the result of a lawsuit that we had to file against the government to get this data out. And so every time we get a batch of data, we're trying to pull out there and get the highlights, you know, bring it to folks and let the American people see what was going on behind the scenes. So the latest thing that we have here, which is similar to something else we had, was this back channel reporting, reporting channel at Twitter, where government officials were able to log in and flag information that they deemed as misinformation for Twitter employees to purge from their system. The same thing existed at Facebook from the records that we've been able to see.

We have an example of a woman who worked for the CDC who used her personal Twitter account. Twitter gave her, through her personal Twitter account, the ability to log in and flag misinformation and disinformation. And they actually encouraged her to do it because they said it was the best way to get something like that reviewed, which the that in that case being the posts and the information they determined were misinformation. So, look, it's it's it's that's just the top of the layer of the onion, though. There's so many layers beneath it between intergovernmental organizations, nongogovernmental organizations, nonprofit setup. There's a whole kind of regime that was built up around this misinformation, disinformation thing. And they're using the government, they're using the powers of government, and they were using the powers of one of the biggest social media platforms out there to objectively define for the American people what

was true and what was false. When people from the government would flag something as dis or misinformation, are there instances where the people at Twitter would say, no, it's not, and just ignore them? So we haven't seen yet. And that's part of the problem is that because these portals exist, some of these things are never going to be disclosed from government records. So it's great for the government actors to be able to do this because it obscures reality. There's no record to go back and check on. If you send an email or do something from a government computer, there's going to be a record that you're going to be able to go back and check. But because they were using a private platform's software, there's not going to be a way for us to be able to determine how much they actually flagged for these companies and what the companies actually did with it.

What we do have examples of are examples of the private companies pulling down content. So we don't have examples yet that I'm aware of that we've seen where they've ever said, oh, hey, no, sorry, we disagree with you on this. But we have seen examples of where the private platforms have said, yes, thank you, we're happy to do that. Can we do more for you? What else can we do for you, government? Just in a really shocking way that I think most Americans would find truly offensive.

Yeah, I think that there's probably a tendency for governments across the history of time to hire external organizations to do dirty work like mercenaries right um things like that i just don't like seeing it turned on the people themselves by having government officials use their private accounts to have undocumented communications with my social media network that i've been using right right no i mean it's it's exactly right it's like one of the oldest plays in the book. And the thing about it is that, of course, the government can't do that legally. They can't violate the First Amendment through contracting the work out to a private company to do for them. That's against the law. You can't do that. So there's going to have to be some real

accountability here. Luckily, there are some things moving that hopefully will bring that, one of which being a lawsuit that was filed by the states of Missouri and Louisiana, where they're deposing folks right now. I'm sure some of your viewers and listeners have been tracking that, that Elvis Chan was part of this lawsuit. He was just recently deposed. I think Jen Psaki is slated to be deposed at some point. Actually getting people in chairs asking them the questions about what happened, what was going on here is going to be critical. And we'll see what happens as the result of the lawsuit. But it should shock the conscience of everyone, regardless of your perspective. It should shock your conscience that the government would be able to do this,

especially when you look at what they were saying was false in a lot of cases later became actually, hey, actually, that wasn't false. And so this meaning of truth, this divorced reality of what's true and what's false, you know, is an evolving thing for the government and for the left collectively. And it leads to a place where you can be censored as long as you're just not agreeing with what the current woke thought is and in with with the covid stuff it was all over the place we all lived it we lived it for about two years think about how crazy the the legal system is in terms of perjury like what we've learned the true extent of it i i think perjury is a non-existent thing at this point because what we have here is uh you know

mr dorsey do you shadow ban? We don't. You don't? No. You don't remove people without their knowledge? We visibility filter. So what?

Did you, what did you say the other day? I don't know if it was you. It was like, did you stab this man? No. I placed a knife inside his body. That was Luke.

That was Luke. He put his chest all around my blade. Do you have a door to your building? No. We have a portal. And there is a vertical slat of wood with a grip on it. So semantic, dodging semantics is a form of perjury.

I think we can be clear about that. Anthony Fauci said they didn't do gain of function. James Clapper said he had no witting knowledge of spying on the American people, even though Prism showed that they did. Yeah, he said, we didn't do gain of function research. What we did was manipulate viruses to make them more deadly and dangerous. And transmissible to human beings. And then Rand Paul.

That's what gain of function is. The same exact one that just naturally got out there because someone ate a bat in China. Rand Paul holds up the paper and he's like, it says right here that you were doing gain of function. And he goes, no.

It says on the paper, no. And where's Fauci? He's on MSNBC and they're like, I can't believe Elon would say prosecute Fauci. I can. He lied to Congress.

Man, when it comes to this stuff, they all just lie. We watch them lie. We know they're lying. They know we know they're lying. We know they know we know they're lying. And we're all just staring at each other like nothing will change. People get charged for lying under oath. People get charged

for lying to Congress. Look what happened to Oliver Stone. He went down. He went to jail because he lied to Congress. Fauci could do it. Brennan could do it. Come on. Let's play fair here. Let's actually hold people accountable to what they said, to how they lied to the American people, and how they screwed them over. Oh, you're talking about

Roger Stone, not Oliver Stone. Sorry, I apologize. Roger Stone. Oliver. Ollie. Oliver Stone. Great. We should have him on the show. Yeah, I interviewed him before, too. I don't always agree with him. Fascinating guy. He interviewed Putin. Has a lot of context, specifically about Russia and Venezuela that I definitely see differently

than him. But it would be great to have him on the show and have that conversation. The reason. But apologies for my mistake. Yeah. Oliver. The reason we have a government for the people by the people is because if the people that we put in charge start lying to us, we're supposed to remove them from office and then maintain balance and honesty and integrity in our system. Maybe the whole system has always been predicated on lies.

Maybe. Yes. And we just want to close our eyes and believe that they're doing the right thing when we put them in power to lie for us? You know, I imagine it like this. Pre-radio, you had people who hung out in their own communities, talked to each other and trusted each other, and they did not trust, for the most part, centralized media distribution. The printing press, relatively new-ish before the American Revolution. Then they started using this

to put out propaganda being like we should be independent it affects people they hear it but for the most part your life is still very much oh i'm gonna do it the patriot with mel gibson what a good movie they're they're you know in their house and then a postal writer comes they're like it's a there's a letter whoa like words come from town. And then they're like, everyone gathers around to read this one letter. Now it's like I get 50 billion on Twitter. But so back then, you believed what you believed or you didn't. You saw what you saw or you didn't. And there was no centralized communication grid.

Then you got radio and TV. And all of a sudden, well, actually, even before that, you had the massive national distribution of newspapers, which started getting really, really big in the late late 1800s and then the turn of the century everyone's now believing the papers then everyone's believing the radio then everyone's believing tv and it's all centralized and it was probably all lies but we believed it because that's what we were told the radio internet comes out and we once again are decentralizing our flow of information, and we're getting into this revolutionary period, I guess. The radio changed it all. It did.

And I remember Orson Welles did that War of the Worlds radio show, and people actually believed it was real, that aliens were attacking. It was so believable. On the radio, there's this new technology that went outside. I heard that people killed themselves because they thought we were under attack by aliens. I don't know if that's confirmed. But then video comes or film. And film allows the centralization of power for Hitler. Hitler is the result of that centralization of power with that mass media mind control technique.

Now we have the internet and it's like we have both centralization and decentralization kind of at odds or coming at each other and trying to figure out the best way to have like localized, decentralized, centralized systems. Well, this is why you end up with, uh, who,

who is that woman who did the musical number about disinformation? You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Uh, Jenkowitz. Yeah. This is why you get these people because they know they're lying. It's why you get people like Taylor Lorenz and Ben Collins.

They know they're lying. Of course they do. They know they're making up things, but they're doing it in service of the authoritarian narrative machine. These are people who long for a world where, like, was it Mika Brzezinski said? Is that how you say her name? Mika? Mika? Where she said, it's our job to tell people what to think.

She was like, Trump thinks he can tell people what to think. That's our job. And then Snopes immediately comes out to debunk the claims. She said it when she literally said it, but that's not what she mean. What they want is they want to go on TV and say the sky is red and then have everyone be like, whatever you say, boss. And the problem is now with the internet, we all start posting online. Well, the sky can be red sometimes depending on the sunset, but for the most part, it's blue.

So they're actually just manipulating you. And then someone says, you're so dumb. The sky is red. It's 7 p.m. at sunset. It's like, dude, I know. And then you argue. But that argument is part of the nuance in the conversation. They don't want.

They want to say, no, it's red. Stop talking about it. Anybody who thinks the sky is blue report to your education center you've got to know that people are not we are not built to fall in line i mean there's part of us that work we're definitely community-based organisms but we're not like you can't force people into slavery it doesn't make sense it never has worked in the history of humanity we've always come away from it. Well, you know, if you look at human history, there's a lot of slavery. There's a lot of war.

There's a lot of destruction. There's people like Genghis Khan. There's individuals that try to conquer the world and control all of it and try to have all of it for themselves. So that's common. That always has happened. And for us to think that this has gotten, this has somehow left the

human experience. I think it's foolish. And I think there's a lot of other smarter people out there that are still going for these same goals. We just don't know about them. We don't hear about them. And they're going for these larger personal achievements for themselves in secret. It's like the spirit of Moses is to free the slaves and like the spirit of the United States. The Statue of Liberty is a freed slave.

But the businessmen that got the Statue of Liberty put up there didn't want to show the chains on her wrists. They were like, no, we can't remind people that we're freed slaves. We want them to forget. They're on her feet, right? Yeah. So they put the chains down at her feet where you can't see it because you're looking up at it. But if you look at it from above, you see broken chains. She's a freed slave. The French understand liberty as the Americans do.

But the businessmen don't they don't like that they want us to lull back into just worshiping some erudite they want us to think oh she's studied so she's great no she's great because she was a freed slave she will never go back isn't it isn't it like everybody's related to genghis khan or something or like some huge number of the world iventh of the world, I think. Because he was banging a lot of chicks. You know what I mean? Yeah. He was going around taking villages and taking the women. I think it's like one-third in Asia.

It's a lot. Everybody. I think it's like history. We go into slavery and then we come out of it and then we go back into it and we come out of it and we're trying to remind ourselves

not to go back into it. That's the story of America, of the United States. Do not fall back into monarchy. Do not fall back under the subservience of one man in the corporation don't do it it's it's not you know i don't know if monarchy is the right word but we fall into something new we haven't yet defined right so we have these words to describe things that we probably didn't describe when they were initially conceived of when feudalism first came into existence there wasn't

some guy who looked around and went this is feudalism you know it was it was like the way things were. And then eventually, we start to define these things. So whatever we're in now, it is not democracy. It is not constitutional republicanism, something totally different. I mean, it could just be a quasi, you know, revolutionary state where you've got, as we've talked about in the show a multicultural democracy trying to exist within a constitutional republic and they're both at odds with each other and so they're conflicted but it's certainly not one or the other and you can't describe it that way maybe we'll uh corporate technic technagopoly you know we'll come up with some new word for it like communism was a word that was coined fascism was a word that was coined. Can we make up a new word for whatever

it is we're going through? Technocracy. Creptocracy. That's what I was thinking too. But throughout my understanding of history, I think America is a rare experiment in freedom. And it's still one of the

few countries in the world where you have the First and Second Amendment. You don't have that in a lot of places around the world. And there are a lot of people that hate that because if people could say what they want and be able to defend themselves by being able to say what they want, that is rare from my understanding unless someone else could prove me wrong. And I think these are important God-given rights that need to be protected at all costs. But let's be fair and honest with ourselves, this latest technocratic advancement and takeover of our society is challenging that, especially with Joe Biden coming out saying that he's going to be making more actions against the Second Amendment, especially with tech platforms, TikTok, Facebook, Google, Alphabet, all these

companies essentially doing a form of mind control. There's a lot of freedoms that are threatened more than ever. I don't know. That's my perspective. What do you think, Gene? Look, I think y'all are onto something here. And I think that there's also a generational aspect to consider for this. So I don't know how old you guys are or young you are or whatever, but I can recall, at least when I was growing up, a sense, especially among young men, of rebellion. It's in the heart of every young man for generations to kind of say to authority, to the authority figures, no, I'm not going to do what you tell me. I mean, I think there was even a line in a Rage Against the Machine song that had something

to say about that. Yeah, but now it's shut up, you better do what they tell you. Exactly. That's exactly what it is. And we have a generation that is complacent now. And I don't know if it's the result of the influence of the social media, at least as it existed until now, with all of these other things. But we've gotten to a place where young people are afraid to question authority. They're afraid to question people as to, hey, why am I being told that I have to think this way? Why am I being told that I have to get this, why do I have to behave this way where I'm ostracized?

No one ever asks those open questions now, and I think it's a real problem. I was reading this blog about comics and superheroes a while ago, and it talked about how the ancient stories were of defying the authority, like stealing fire from Mount Olympus or whatever, or Hercules fighting the, I don't know what the exact story is.

It's been a while since I read it, but it was talking about how the heroes used to challenge those in control, the gods and things like that. And superheroes today are very much completely in line with the authority.

So Superman, for instance, he doesn't break the law. He's got to fight for the government. Now, there's been nuance introduced into the comics over time, but there was this period where very much everything was whatever the government says goes. And so we went to Fredericksburg this past week, and we were hanging out with Matt Strickland over at Gormelts. Shout out, Matt.

Amazing food, by the way. And this is the business where this all comes together in a perfect story i gotta be honest this is where the government tried shutting down his business because of kobe he said screw off we're not shutting down two years later they take his alcohol his liquor license from him and and and he's like what's going on we got yunkin in but this is a guy who's defying the machine standing up for what he believes and standing up for his community while we're down there we we you know we eat food we hang out them we're like this is a whole lot of fun and then we say we're gonna we're gonna go check out the city we go to this antique store and i see an old comic from the from world war

two it was um i think it was dc's the unknown soldier and the cover shows a bunch of children standing in front of nazis and the unknown soldiers on top of a tank pointing at them saying, it doesn't matter that they're hiding behind children, men. We have to do it or something like that. And I was like, I called Luke. I was like, dude, you got to look at this. World War II comic books of the good guy saying it doesn't matter that there are children in front of these soldiers. And the tank is pointed at them, the artillery i'm like i get it like the u.s was right under no circumstances do you

stop fighting even if it means running kids over or shooting at them or whatever and that's to the extent that our heroes began to support the machine even when they were doing things that were atrocious or it's just one example that i saw granted these days there's been a bit more nuance in superhero comics you now have like the uh the marvel civil war series i don't mean the movie the superhero registration act comic arc was was great where you know you had like tony stark as a corporatist and he's like well the government wants us to register so we should they kept in america all of a sudden defying the government being like i'm not for this that's not the american way that nuance was really really great but i but i do find it interesting that when when you ultimately get these people like

what's his name phoenix jones he was that guy who was a vigilante and what was it seattle yeah you guys know i think so he ends up during the like the antifa riots helping the cops and they were like you're a bad guy you're helping the cops and he's like what do you mean this is what superheroes do so it's interesting to see that we're at this point you know i suppose there's supposed to i mean law and order for the for most it's supposed to be good i think that i tend towards neutrality when it comes to law and chaos i find myself like if if it's good chaos that's better than evil law. But I tend towards law over chaos because I find that law allows the system to balance out a little bit better than chaos does. But can chaos be good or bad? Yeah, chaos can be good.

You can have like Robin Hood, for instance, would steal from like wealthy landowners and then give to the poor people. They said that was a good act, but it's very chaotic to steal. Yeah, I see what you're saying. Robin Hood was not acting any predictable manner. And so the machine was disrupted by his actions. But he was doing things to stop the villains to help the poor. Exactly. And the villains were the law, which was King John, the drunken brother of King Richard.

I think that's a story. In reality, they weren't living in the same time period. And King John, he was a lion, wasn't he? No, his brother was the Lionheart, King Richard. But John was just an idiot. And king john was a he was a lion wasn't he no his brother was the lion heart king richard but uh john was just a and robin was a fox oh yeah you're right yeah disney disney is history i personally think uh the boys on amazon prime definitely has a better representation of what's happening behind the scenes especially with pr and large government and even though it's filled with a lot of woke propaganda I do see that more of a reality than

anything else from my perspective I don't know what's your favorite dystopian nightmare that's coming true to life the one we're in I mean it's hard it's hard to describe I mean imagine describing reality today to yourself 10

years ago I love it right I mean it's one of these to yourself 10 years ago. I love it. Right? We do it all the time. I mean, it's one of these things. You sit there and you think, okay, so take yourself, go back to wherever you were 10 years ago and tell yourself, hey, in 10 years from now, if you do so much as say, hey, you know, like 10 years, in 10 years, people are going to be having drag queens dancing in front of children and you're going to be called a bigot if you ask a question about it. I think most folks around here would say, well, you're totally crazy. You've lost your mind. And so in a lot of ways, what we have seen rapidly over the last decade has descended us into kind of our own dystopian world where it's not recognizable by prior generations of Americans

who have this unifying kind of common experience, common identity, common values that unify them as Americans, people from all over the world, people from all over the world united behind this idea that we have this constitutional republic, we have these societal values that we're going to uphold. And yet, you know, you go to where we are today, and it's because of the increase of the influence of this woke mob that you get things where people are denying just fundamental truth, things that everyone understood to be real for millennia. But it is, you were called a bigot if you dare to speak out whatever the current thinking

is. And of course, the ancillary part of that is that that is an ever-shifting and evolving target for the woke mob. It's never enough. Once they get to something that they want, they have to increase their power. And so their targets continue to move. And you're never going to be woke enough for them.

It's just a matter of who gets canceled in time and who is able to keep being woke and going along with the crowd until they're called out. Yeah, like no true Scotsman fallacy right there. Is there any court case you're working on right now? What would you say is the most important legal case you guys are working on right now? So there's a number of them that are, I think, particularly important, particularly impactful for the average American, which is

something that I try to think about as we look at the cases that we bring, the things that we're going to do. Hey, what's going to have the most positive benefit for the American people? And so, you know, we have an active case representing a federal employee who was challenging the COVID vaccine mandate. You know, again, one of these attempts to force employees to get the jab, even if they didn't want to, or even if they had COVID before. We're active in that case. We were part of the coalition of organizations that brought down the OSHA mandate. We've been successful in stopping a number of programs that discriminate against American citizens on the basis of their race, right?

And so it's, again, for us, it's we look at this and we say all racism is wrong. It's always been wrong. It still is wrong. It always will be wrong. No one should be treated differently because of the color of their skin. But you have government programs out there that are coming out, like this Farm Loan Forgiveness Program that came out, this Restaurant Revital forgiveness program that came out, this restaurant revitalization program that came out, or even faculty hiring at different major universities that say, hey, you're only eligible for this if you come from this background, if you have this

color of skin. That's totally unacceptable. Skin color should never be the basis for any kind of governmental action or any kind of private corporation action. should never it shouldn't matter if you want to look at other things like socioeconomic conditions you know maybe it's a you know you want to provide help to the poor people in appalachia the same way you would help someone in the inner city great fantastic but you can't do it on the basis of race so we've successfully stopped a number of these programs that the administration and the congress have rolled out. And we're proud

to have done so. Because again, you know, all racism is wrong, it always will be wrong. I remember not so long ago talking to my members on my member area. This is about, you know, almost now two years from now, telling people, hey, if your boss comes to you and tries to force you to take a medical procedure or threaten to fire you, whatever you do, don't quit, let them fire you, document everything. I got a lot of people contacting me saying, thank you for telling me this because now they have legal cases that are going to court and they're getting a lot of settlements because discriminating against someone, extorting someone, manipulating someone to do something when there's no liability from the producers of this something clearly brings up a

lot of very important issues that a lot of people have forgotten. And when we had these conversations about people getting discriminated against and being fired, no one brought up like, hey, we have a legal set of rules and laws here that should be followed. Now they are. So what was your experience in that particular realm? And how do you see moving forward from here? Because there's still a lot of discrimination. There's still a lot of craziness. Can you fight it all? Can we get justice for all this? Yeah, look, I mean, it's going to depend on the nature of the employer. Of course, the government employers are the easiest ones to target, right? Because the

government has a set of rules and restrictions that set it to a standard that's much different than what a private employer could do. Because a private employer should have the right to be able to do more or less, with certain exceptions, what they want to do with their workforce, you know, subject to applicable laws. That said, I think that I am optimistic about what the future holds. I think that for the federal civilian workforce, I think there's going to be a real good win here soon, hopefully out of the Fifth Circuit. I don't know about our own case, how that's going to do with the D.C. Circuit, but hopefully there's something there that frees. Literally, I mean, look, some people might say,

well, it's a bunch of government bureaucrats. These are real people, millions of federal workers who are subjected to either, hey, you take the jab or you lose your job. And that's not a place that you want to be in. Some of the private employers, I know there's been some good wins from some different folks across the country. I think there's a group of folks who worked in a hospital system up north, as I recall, who recently prevailed and they got some back pay and compensatory damages, which is great. But look, it's challenging, whether it's in the nature of the COVID, you know, vaccine or whether it's in the nature of discrimination claims or anything else, there's a lot of just cross currents that discourage people from being free to exercise, you know, their God- kind of the woke mob going after something is this case we recently won in Texas, where we represented a class of doctors in America who were about to be subject to a Biden administration edict that said, if you discriminate against someone on the basis of their gender identity, then you're discriminating against them on the basis of their sex, and therefore you're going to be subject to claims of discrimination. So if you're a doctor who has a patient who comes to you and says, who is a biological male, but believes they're a woman and says, hey, I need to be treated for whatever, you name the condition, and the doctor says, no,

well, you're a biological male. I can't do that for you. They would be subject to government investigations for discrimination. And if found to have discriminated against someone on that basis, they lose access to federal funding, which is disastrous for any kind of doctor who's providing any kind of care. And so we want a case on behalf of a class of all doctors in America where we've said, hey, that interpretation is unlawful. And so these doctors are now free to go about exercising their independent medical judgment and provide the care that they think is right. But there's all kinds of cross currents here that are going on in American society where the woke left is just ever advancing.

And we need more folks on the right or in the center, for that matter, pushing back and fighting back and saying no. This is not going to happen. We will not stand for this. And also why it's not going to happen. Because if you treat someone with a biological male, but you treat them as if they're a biological female because of their gender, they might die. So we cannot go that route. We can't. That's the crazy thing to me about a lot of these stories

is there's a viral clip going around where this woman, she runs a nonprofit. She says parents have no right to know what their kids are experiencing or going through or whatever. And she said, because we prevent suicide,

we save lives. It's exactly what Jack Dorsey said to me about their misgendering policy. And I was like, on the face that made no sense i was like so what about body dysmorphic disorder or whatever they're like what is that like like somebody who feels their hand shouldn't be on their body and they want to cut it off are you gonna if someone goes on twitter and says i'm gonna go get my hand removed and we say please don't stop that's wrong are we gonna get banned for that and they were like uh i don't know so i'm wondering where that comes from because it like the point is brought up all

the time anorexia when someone comes out and says i'm fat you go no you're not that's what you're supposed to say but if someone comes out and says i'm in the wrong body we're supposed to say okay but only for that one issue like if someone says they're an owlkin, you know, like otherkin stuff, and they say like, deep down, I am a wolf. You know, like South Park did an episode about it where it was Kyle's dad becomes a dolphin. Like at what point do you say,

you've got to be who you are, you know? Yeah. Yeah, look, I mean, I, again, for millennia, millennia, people understood, man, woman, okay, great woman okay great fine you know but it's only been recently and again it's really within the last 10 years or so that we have this increase of hey not only uh uh not only are there 67 or 72 genders or whatever the case may be these days infinity it's whatever whatever limit you can't. It's also you're a bigot.

You're a bigot if you reject their invented identity. It's imposing on other people in a way that we've never seen in our society, I think, before. It's insane. I never really cared about if somebody uses atypical pronouns in the sense that like, you know, always using Blair White as the example, but Blair, I just say she, I mean, whatever. I don't know. It's easy.

Makes sense. Ben Shapiro explained it as if I'm going out and I'm like, hey, go sit by my friend. I'm going to grab some food. Where? Over there. That's her. You know, he's not going to say that's him because it'd be confusing and people would be like, huh?

Because they see someone who clearly looks like a female. but then you get into the neo-pronoun stuff and now you've got these these people saying like you should call someone zorp and i'm like okay i look man i can't remember that i'm not trying to be a dick but i'm not saying it okay because i don't know what you're talking about and i can't be like zeep zorp zoop zap zappa you know for all these people i just can't do it. He and she and they, I get. And then they're like, but what about if you accidentally call a woman a man? It's like, then I apologize and then use the correct pronouns. Like, if there's a burly woman and I say, excuse me, sir, and they go, I'm a woman.

I'm like, oh, I'm sorry about that, ma'am. It's that simple. Like, we're not trying to be. But you can't then say, but if someone wants to go by Zares, you know, or there's like hydrogender. So, you know, you call them like flube or something. It's like, dude, I don't know that. I'm not going to remember it. You're the only person in the world who goes by that.

Like, the argument they make is, but if someone's name is John, would you not call them John? And I'm like, I'd call them by their name. But I can't remember a name and a pronoun for every single person. So it's just not going to happen. I think as like pronouns or just, it's not a one-to-one comparison, but like gender as opposed to sex, gender could be treated like a cosmetic skin in a video game.

Like it's like, it doesn't affect the gameplay. It's just how you, what the character resembles. And that's kind of what but the thing is gender is a psychological thing too so it does alter the way you perceive reality i think it's part of why your gender is the way you perceive it so it's not quite cosmetic but legally it should be treated cosmetically so this is the problem with also some people saying well i get to change

my gender whenever i want how i want when, when the government steps in, like in the United Kingdom, and says, oh, if you misgender someone, you're going to jail. That happened in Norway, didn't it? It happened in Norway. It happened in the United Kingdom. I interviewed someone randomly as I was walking around in the United Kingdom. I was doing interviews about the First Amendment in the United Kingdom, and I ran into a guy who was arrested and had to go to court

because he called someone a bloke let's let me let me pull this story up and we'll keep talking about it not on purpose by accident let me let me grab this one from fox news norwegian filmmaker faces up to three years in prison for saying men cannot be lesbians i can't pronounce this but uh chanye uh how would you chinese how do you pronounce this again gevong is a lesbian filmmaker who intentionally made the comment to criticize Norway's hate speech laws. So, three years in prison. Luke, you want to just rehash that,

retell that story for people who might just be joining? You interviewed somebody who was... It was a very random thing. I was just walking around doing interviews on the street. Met up a random guy, and I was like,

hey, what do you think about the First Amendment? And the guy was like, I wish I had it here. I had to go to jail. I had to go to court. I was ostracized from my community. I was facing some serious pressure from the government because I accidentally called someone a bloke in passing. And then they called the cops on him. The cops showed up and arrested a person for doing this. He was very severely negatively affected in his career

and faced a huge backlash for an accident because he literally thought that person was a bloke. It wasn't a bloke. It was, I don't even know how to describe it. Two famous stories, Zuby getting suspended on Twitter for saying, okay, dude, and Count Dankula getting arrested

for posting a meme with his dog by making his girlfriend's dog do the Nazi salute. I call people dude and man. Like woman, man and woman. They both have man in the word. I'm like, hey, guys, what's up, everybody? What's up, dude? Homie, hello. And it's not because of their sex.

I don't care. That's not why I'm casual with people. Survivor did a very cringe moment. I think it was either last season or the season before that. He was like, I want to have a conversation with you guys. Is it okay if I say guys? I know for so many years I said guys, but now I don't

think it's okay. Are you guys okay with me saying guys? And then the whole people were like, yeah. He said, are you guys okay with me saying guys? I don't think he said it exactly. Are you people okay if I say guys? What do you mean by you people? He was very careful with think he said it exactly are you people okay if i say guys what do you mean by he was very careful he was very careful how he said it exactly right and then like three days passed and then one of the one of the uh contestants like you know what mike i i think you should stop saying guys he's like okay you got it i respect you all i'm like i was like why is this on

television like they just ruined survivor i used to love television? Like they just ruined Survivor. I used to love Survivor. It's a cult, man. But they just ruined it. You know what we should do? We got to do two things with Cast Cast. We got to do a skit where Ian goes back in time to warn his younger self about what's happening in the future. But Ian's younger self, who's like a crazy drugged out hippie, is like, dude, you must be on drugs.

Yeah, I'll be like graphing. And you got to talk about graphing. I'll be like, this guy's insane. He talks about grapene all the time. I want nothing to do with him. And then the other one is, take a bunch of woke people and just, you know, as a sketch, drop them in the middle of the woods and then ask them if the bears care about their pronouns. I mean, like, my point with that is, all of these weird things they're demanding are completely meaningless. Like if we go to war with China, do you think like these soldiers,

that bunch of U-boats or whatever, like they start coming up on the shores of California or they go into Alaska, more likely if there's going to be an invasion, start stealing stuff, and there's going to be an American, do you think they're going to stop and be like, before we capture you, what's your pronoun? They're going to be like, get in the box. And your words are meaningless they don't care about your pronouns especially if like we start looking for water someone tweeted that out what if all these this drama that we're going through like what if we run out of water for a day what

are we going to be talking about then what if it's two days that we don't have water what are we going to be what's going to be the conversation on twitter if we don't have fresh water as a species after two days no one's well all that's going to be is where's the water. Well, that's cities though, right? Rural folk got water. Hopefully. Like, for one, there's a river right here, lots of water, and then we have wells and natural aquifers and things like that, so we're not running out of water.

Yeah, God forbid any kind of, you know, celestial demonization, you know, there's always meteoroids. Technically a meteor is something that's already entered the atmosphere. The meteoroid is the one that's still out there. So if you're in New York and the flow of water stops, man, it's going to get dark. No one cares what gender you are if you're thirsty. No one cares.

It's all about survival. Or hungry. Hunger, too. When there's no food left. How long does food last on average? Like three months or something like that before all the food's basically gone unrefrigerated city just like in general there's there's stuff that lasts longer but it gets eaten and there's stuff that doesn't last as long it's eaten

and so i think within like a few months if it probably faster than that if the supply the supply line to new york cut off how long do they have in terms of the food supply in in the city like i'm talking about at pantries at grocery stores are they going to be eating themselves well what i'm saying is i think it might even be a week all the perishable stuff is spoiled all the fruits and vegetables are spoiled within a week or two canned goods are eaten up right after that so in a couple weeks there's no food left there's no water the people who are stuck there what are they going to do yo it's going to be like roving bands of cannibals yeah i'm not even kidding there's people are going to say i would rather not die and then you're going to go outside and there's going to be a group and they're going to watch you and they're going to

they're going to bash you over the head they're going to drag your body and that's their dinner yeah long pig and then they're not going to ask you before we devour you what's your pronouns there could be in a chaotic situation people will use gender to try and divide people for control and power, I would imagine. But if it's super desperate, where we're dying of dehydration, I don't think that anyone's going to be thinking about that stuff. Yeah, I mean, that's literally what it is. When you mentioned power, it's just power.

It's being able to tell somebody else to do something for you. It's what Jordan Peterson's been saying since he came out. This is a whole thing. It's always been about power. It's never been about anything else but power. You have to excise it. Communist tactics, man. You find a victim class or you create one, and then you instill communism thoughts.

The state will save you. The group can help you. It can take care of you. Just do what we say. Just fall in line with our orders and edicts. Right, exactly. That's the bad guy. Yeah.

And that's the reason you're suffering right now. Oh, man. Well, and the other thing about this, the other dynamic, we've been talking adults, right? is where the children are being subjected to all kinds of just crazy thoughts and radical gender ideology, and it's being hidden from the parents. Now, look, I mean, there's one thing if you're an adult and you want to believe what you want to believe, but for a child, for an elementary school kid, a middle school kid, even a high schooler, like ultimately until you're an emancipated adult, your parents have the right, the fundamental right to bring up that child in the way that they see fit. And we

have school districts all across the country helping transition their kid because they've gotten in some social club or whatever and not telling the parents about it. I mean, this woke mob is really not stopping anywhere, and they're violating the most fundamental relationships you could ever imagine between a parent and a child, and doing it under the guise of protecting the child. Well, the parents might not be accepting of their new identity, so we have to hide it from them. It's a culture revolution. It's insane. It's crazy. So, you know, we've mentioned this before prager's uh cut flower politics i think it's called that you can cut the flower from its you know roots or whatever

and it's beautiful and you can show it to everybody but then it dies right that that started happening unintentionally i think but now what we're seeing is the weaponization of this the opposite of honor thy father and thy mother they're going to schools they're saying don't tell your parents and now you've even got the white house defending this behavior saying parents have no rights right so what's the story with the white house getting involved with this well this is just i mean you know we'll get into that more in depth for the members only i guess but this is basically biden saying that what's going on with these schools is a good thing it's the democratic party saying don't say gay like florida comes out and says parents have a right to know what's going on with these schools is a good thing. It's the Democratic Party saying, don't say gay.

Like, Florida comes out and says, parents have a right to know what's going on with their kids. And they go, you hate gay people. You know, Media Matters put out this hit piece where they're like, anti-LGBTQ slur groomer. And I'm like, all of my posts have been about how groomers are not LGBTQ. Why are you constantly claiming

that all LGBT people you in their view are pedophiles it's the weirdest thing it's it's it's media matters and leftist organizations trying to conflate these things it's at the same time them trying to make sure that kids are separated away from the roots right you want they want it they want to create a uh revolutionaries this is why i just can't understand why i hear these conservatives be like my kids going to college i'm like you know what dude i'm i'm not even bothering with that one yeah you know what happens to your kids in college and they and they say things like well there's good colleges though there's good colleges i was like oh yeah sure like in west virginia where the grade schools have gender queer yeah where in west virginia the school board is woke

and i'm i'm not even kidding i'm hearing these stories out of west virginia and i'm like you where in West Virginia, the school board is woke. And I'm not even kidding. I'm hearing these stories out of West Virginia and I'm like, you wouldn't think that would be happening here. It's happening everywhere. So these people are like, well, you know, I'm going to a good college. It's religious, it's conservative. Yeah, DePaul wouldn't let Ben Shapiro on the property.

So like, you know what, man? Homeschool your kids. Have your kids learn real skills. They can self-teach a lot on the online. I get it. You want to be a doctor or a lawyer, you need the official legal certification. Yeah, but that should change too, in my opinion. I don't think you need to go to school for 12 years and $300,000 in debt to learn how to do something that you could learn how to do at your own pace. Why do they need to watch you and make sure that you paid and became part of

the system? If you can save someone's life and understand and can take the tests of medicine and can do the surgeries, why would, why do you have to go? Like, I'm talking about reality. Like we need doctors. So let's evolve that system. I feel like it's all just falling apart anyway. But, but this, I don't think it's bad news. You know, a lot of people think that bringing up these things like collapse is pessimism it's realism but it's also an opportunity right it means that there's an opportunity as the the woke lunatics burn down their cities and destroy everything you have an

opportunity in your rural area to succeed to grow your business and be self-sufficient stop relying on the cities for for revenue make a new company. Start a new business. And a lot of people, it's not easy to do. Figure it out. I mean, literally, if you got a tree on your property, chop it down, start taking the wood and making stuff with it. Then start selling it. Just figure it out.

You got to start somewhere, you know? It's like the phoenix. The phoenix must burn before it can be a new bird again, right? That's right. All right, everybody. We're going to go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and become a member over at TimCast.com.

Click that Join Us button at TimCast.com. We're going to have a members-only show coming up for you. Those go live around 11 p.m. And let's read a bunch of Super Chats. I know many people have been chiming in about Mr. Boc i really really do appreciate it so uh today at four so here's what happened for those that are wondering uh i finished my my 1 p.m segment and then as i was putting together uh a story about you know elon jet and liberals fleeing the platform and everything mr bocus got up started walking nearly collapsed alice and my

girlfriend ran over and grabbed him. And he had like, he had like drool coming from his mouth. She brought him to his litter box where he tried to go in, failed, and then crapped on the floor. Came out and then stumbled over. And he was in really, really bad shape. So I was just like, there's no way I'm going to be able to work. Like, I'm not going to leave him and go sit at the computer. And so I figured what we'll do is, you know, I'll make one last, I'll make one video for him talking about what's going on. And, and, and Mr.

Bocas, he's the, he's the cat of the cast castle. He's, he's appeared behind us. He's jumped in the desk. Everybody loves him. He's everybody's friend. And, uh, long story short of it is I made that video because I didn't want to not give an update and just disappear and not produce anything. But I also felt like in 10, 20 years, I can come back to my YouTube channel. I can see that video I made and always remember him. And I thought that was important. I also think for everybody who has a pet or any loved one, there will never be a point in my life where I look back on the final days of Mr. Bocas' life and I say, Man, I'm so glad I ignored him and went made a video complaining about Twitter. It's just not that important in the long run. And I'll leave you with one last story that I think is very important. I read this on

Reddit, where a guy said he was sitting with his brother and his grandmother, and they were looking at her photo album. And she was showing him a photo of the Grand Canyon. And then she paused, she was telling him like, I was here with your father of the Grand Canyon and then she paused she was telling him like I was here with your your father and your uncle and then she froze and said why did I take a picture of the Grand Canyon I don't care about that I care about your father and your uncle and he says from that point from that point on every time he would go somewhere the photos would always be of him and his friends at the place and not of the place or the thing I thought that was very very important but let's uh let's uh let's read some super chats all right soundscape underground says you can only accept

my five dollars if your cat gets a viking funeral to valhalla yeah phil i like that idea i think we should go forward with it and let's prepare the crossbows i don't know about a crossbow i think we should get like a trained archer and then we should go to the ocean where it's safe and you know give mr bogus a viking funeral phil was like yeah and i'm like i don't know if something like a dead cat on fire is legal you know i'm like kicking it out into a waterway or something but i think if we go to a private marina or something on the on the water or we just go out to a totally unincorporated area and then you know put a little boat onto the water and i'm still i haven't given up on bucko yet.

I think we can get him some stem cells, man. I think we can. I know we can. I think regenerative medicine has come a long way. I'm willing to do what I got to do. See if it works. And if he's in a lot of pain sorry to interrupt you ma'am I was right there with you before I

before and after I started I've been trying to hold it together the whole time we looked into stem cells the hospital he was at that's nearby doesn't do it I looked up a few videos the issue is there's a whole bunch of places there's a bunch of places but there's like not that many around the country. There's a guy near San Diego, this doctor.

I'm going to shout him out because he does a lot of good work. His name's Robert Harmon. He's one of the leading veterinary stem cell doctors in the world. Robert, if you're out there, I don't know if Paco's even right for it, but I'm going to contact you, and we'll go from there. We'll read some more of these thoughtful posts. Really do appreciate everybody sideways says hey bud i'm really sorry about bocas but i'm glad he was able to live a more full life than he could have otherwise just hope you're doing okay tim i'm doing okay it's just you know i was just as we're building the new headquarters we're

talking like where's where's where's where's bucka gonna go where's bocas gonna be and i'm like well we're gonna have to figure out something for him you know he's he's here in the studio most of the time so everybody always sees him and he's always you know acting silly and he was supposed to be alive for another 15 years i mean he's well fed he's well taken care of we bring him to the vet periodically but uh cats they hide their illnesses and so even when we brought him to the vet a month or so ago they just said well you know get him get him different food he seems to be okay they didn't do the blood work it wasn't until he started passing out that they were like holy crap he's on the verge of death and then even

then they said we think he's got a few a few weeks maybe a few months and then today i mean this is he's he's he's been eating he's been better he like collapsed and could barely get up, he's been eating. He's been better. He, like, collapsed and could barely get up, so he's been sleeping all day. But we'll read some more. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Behold, unbeknownst to the beautiful bird sunbathing on a low branch, behind it, bouncing, it bounces, brandishing, bared claws, besieges into action. It is the beloved baby bunny butcher, Bucko, a.k.a. Mr. Bocas. I was asking Allison, I was like,

should we capture a small bird and injure it so that Bucko can kill one more time? It's kind of messed up because we really care about him, but he's just mercilessly torturing these birds. He stabbed one, it was bleeding, and then he sat and watched it as it fluttered and tried to escape. And then if it ever jumped, he would jump and whack it and knock it back to the ground. And I'm like, this is the brutal nature of what he's doing.

And here we are mourning for him. He's still alive, but he's basically lethargic and just sleeping all day. So we'll see, man. We'll see. All right. Jay says, have you guys heard about the idea in the uk about separating cities into 15 minute driving segments sky news australia was talking about a few days ago what does that mean separating cities into 15 minute driving segments like 15 minutes apart i think is what they're

trying to say oh i see yeah so it's in one direction yeah yeah that's kind of what the uk is like already isn't it yeah i guess i mean london is a massive spattering of people right right but as soon as you get outside of it you're in the countryside it's like it's what it seems like at least at least in my experience there it's also triton 54 says miss allison if you're listening thank you so much for your support of tim during this difficult time. Tim needs you just as we need him. Godspeed, Mr. Bocas. Matt from Joliet. Doc Holliday says, keep your TDS in check tonight, Luke. What?

How dare you? Don't tell me what to do. One. Number two, again, when it comes to Trump, when he did something good, I respected it, called it out. When he did something bad, he did some bad things, he got called out for it as well. So would anyone, you'd never put anyone above yourself, always be critical of everyone.

John Adams says, Tim, I just finished watching your tribute to Mr. Bocas. God bless you and Bocas as he makes his way to the other side. Really do appreciate it. Above all asks, do I watch JoJo's Bizarre Adventure? I don't. You should. Is it good? I think it adventure i don't you should is it good i think it's great oh what is it about um i mean i don't want to spoil it for you but basically it is jojo's bizarre adventure oh yeah that's literally what it is it's it's bizarre you should watch it

though i've seen memes of it it's an anime yeah yeah that's right it's a manga anime uh the anime is where it's at for sure fans know justin DeBoer just put, Super Chat 3 said, Tim, please put Mr. Bocas on one of your Times Square billboards. That'd be cool. I want to, but we'll have to see. You know, he could make it a little while longer. And if he does, I'm not going to put up a memorial for him when he's still alive. We're going to do what we can for him.

It's brutal, man. He's got genetic defects. That's just it. He's a great cat. He's really nice to everybody. He comes up and yells at you, but people can pick him up. They can pet him.

He's just, you'll pick him up, and he'll just flop out and let you do your thing. And, you know, he's a good cat. And so it's sad that he only made it to about four years old. C'est la vie, you know? It's life. I'll say one more thing, too. Obviously, it sucks.

Everybody who's lost a pet knows it's pain. I'm not going to equate a cat to a human life or anything like that. There are some people who are like, dude, you got to grow up and get over it. And I'm like, you know, look, if I wanted to, I thought about this. I could just zen it out, meditate on it, and then just smile and nod as Bocas's flame goes out and his energy dissipates into the universe. But I choose to bottle it up and do what must be done and plow ahead because there are important jobs to be done, important work to be done. But I think, you know, for me at least, I'm here to live the human experience. So, you know, I'll roll with it. Ian, you know, giving a little tears out tonight. I'm sure you could just shut it off and be stoic and cold faced, but I think it's good to

sometimes just let that emotion out you know yeah it's part of it's part of the healing process we talk about like how can we make people whole again you know this is one way to do it feel it in public man all right chrome leader says doxing is a fourth amendment issue change my mind is it i mean people's records are public that's the challenge yeah the government doing it i would agree with yeah the maladroit maladroit mama maladroit maladroit yeah if you want to be correct oh yeah i do i can't pronounce these words i'm a local experienced barista in wv panhandle who can I contact to apply and interview for the upcoming coffee shop? Oh, man.

I mean, we definitely do need an experienced barista. Probably a bunch, actually, for the new location, which should be actually set up not too long from now. I mean, because of the holidays, it may be January, February. But I think we could theoretically get something up and running really, really quick. I mean, to be completely honest, we could open the front door right now with a big banner that says the name and be like,

we don't got anything here yet, but you can come and sit in the chair. I mean, I'm sure people would hang out anyway. It's something to do. And then we'll slowly build it up over time. I don't know. I don't know how you can contact. Go to timcast.com

and go to the about or contact section. And then you can contact. Go to TimCast.com and go to the About or Contact section, and then you can send an email to somebody and let them know that you superchatted on the show and mentioned you're in the area and want to be a barista, and we'll see what we can do. WV, I like that. All right. Rhiannon Tunnell says, Please tell Mr. Bocas that all the viewers of this show love him and will miss hearing about his terrorism.

Also, you should put him in Times Square on New Year's Eve as a tribute. I believe we can do that. I believe we can. Let's get some more Super Chats. They're all basically for Mr. Bocas. I understand. I had to put out a video.

You know. Eric Miller says there's a Capcom game called Remember Me where they had port on the back of their neck and they would use it to rewrite memories to manipulate people yeah that's a crazy thought we get to the point where we cyberize our brains and then you can be like i had a really traumatic experience when i went to that event i don't remember going to the event at all right that's why i brought up ghost in the show or is it ghost in the show yeah when the guy thinks he has all his memories about, like, his daughter and all this stuff.

Yeah. You should watch it if you haven't seen it. Yep. Let's grab some more. Sergeant Buck says, Alejandra Caraballo is the same activist that claimed to be responsible for getting James Lindsay banned on Twitter. And now James Lindsay's back. So, too bad. But those people are all

just making things up and lying. Michelle J says, Tim, get Mr. Bocas outside some, even so sick. Yeah, we're planning that. Also, the other plan is we've been looking at a local shelter. We want to bring in Mr. Bocas to select an heir

who will inherit the title of Bocas and then we'll learn from him how to be a cat. And then at the very least, he is unable to reproduce because they chopped his balls off. But his ideas can be instilled in the younger cat. And then I was explaining to Allison the importance of legacy because she's just, you know, she's like, Bocas can't have kids. That's it. What do you, why are you and your brother so concerned about legacy and I'm like think of it this way there is an old world war ii veteran who goes and lives in the woods sits there with his dog and then dies then there's the old world war ii veteran sitting on his porch and a young kid comes up to him and the

old man tells him the stories of storming the beaches of saving lives of rescuing these women and then that kid inspired by those thoughts grows up and becomes a marine captain or or something and joins the military and then serves his country and that's that's that's the importance that uh mr bocus will teach that little kitten some things and those behaviors will live on forever it's sad to me that uh billions of years of evolution and cellular development, and it all ends with that one life. Because we spay and neuter them. But I get why we do it. I do.

That's another reason why I'm so concerned about how they're sterilizing kids. Because it's like billions of years of evolution ends with you. Every single one of your ancestors succeeded in reproducing. I'm not saying have 50 kids i mean you can have one you know i'm saying have 50 have 50 have as many as you can there's going to be a population crash is going to go bad it's going to be bad i'm saying i mean you'll see you'll see decades and decades from now skylar hillman says did mr bocus support free speech to him he absolutely did he would he would yell outside the

door cheering us on he'd come in and jump up on the table it is kind of crazy to think that it was like a week ago he was at the door yelling at us yeah and the decline was just rapid because cats hide their illnesses and it was only until he was in total like he's in stage three renal failure he's passing out were we like wow and now he's just rapidly declining so we're giving him iv fluids we've got medicine for him but i want to be careful too because they prescribed prescribed out where we're like, wow, and now he's just rapidly declining. So we're giving him IV fluids. We've got medicine for him. But I want to be careful, too, because they prescribed antibiotics, but I know antibiotics can be hard on kidneys, and his kidneys are already weak.

So we don't know if he actually even needs the antibiotics. Yeah, man. I'm so concerned, especially in cancer patients, when they give him chemo, and then the chemo kills him, and then they say it was the cancer. Like, you've got to be so careful with delicate bodies and just quality of life is everything right now for Bucko. I don't want him to be in pain. You know, I will do anything to find a new medicine if that it's real.

But at the same time, if he's in a lot of pain, you got to let him go. That's the thing. You know, they want us to do this IV fluid treatment. I really did help him. We gave him some fluids and he immediately sprang up. And so that's good. But I'm also sitting there thinking like, you know, if he's dying, are we just prolonging his life for our own benefit and making him suffer longer? Do we let him sleep and be as comfortable as he can without bothering him, without waking him point, the pill popper in his throat to make him eat the medicine, the needle in his back to give him the fluids, we're just making his last days worse

so that we don't feel as bad, but we still feel bad as it's happening. I bet the fluids were great for him. Yeah, he sprang right up, got all excited, and they started acting normal again. And I was thinking about it too. It's been a couple months since he used to run up and down the hallways like only six months ago and so his deterioration has been been happening we could

tell something was wrong but didn't seem that bad yeah and i wish you know i i wish we could have caught it sooner all right giri vision because we're inter interlacing news with with focus elon wants to make twitter a video site but now you can't live stream newsworthy events such as state of the union according to the new doxing rule well luke makes that point if you're going and covering a news event and celebrities there are they going to be like oh you showed the real-time location of these people yeah that's but i don't know man i i think there can be judgment in how it's done like Obviously, if you're doing a broadcast, what is it? Obviously, if you're doing a broadcast, you're not doxing someone.

Obviously, if you're posting someone's private jet information, you are. So there's a difference. And then bad things can happen. Weber J says, hey, Tim, tried to watch the 4 p.m. segment. Lasted about four minutes and had to stop. Tears started flowing. Felt for you. You're a good dude.

Hey, man, I really appreciate it. It was very hard to make. But it was a combination of me being like, I hate not talking about something and putting something out. And I always say that I just want to talk about what I feel like talking about. And today it was Mr. Bocas. And in 15, 20 years, I'm going to be an old man, and I'm going to show my kids, I'm going to be like, take a look at this video, you know, when they have a sad day with our pet, when we're old, and, you know, they're young teenagers, and the dog's dying, or whatever, I'll be like, watch this video of me when I was younger, and I think that's really great, and he was lying on the table, and we were petting him the whole time. All right, Steamed Hams says, I love your work your work tim i also love how you get people from

different political spheres and careers is there any chance of trying to get destiny on the show he yes is a great online debater we've had him on the show uh would love to have him back on the show i think destiny's great actually um we disagree it was funny when he came i was like destiny i think you and i are going to agree on basically everything and he was like what and then we disagreed on some things like wokeness. We disagreed on some things like crisis management. But a lot of it is, you know, disagreeing on how to get to places, but agreeing on the end goals.

Plus, I mean, Destiny's, you know, I think he's like a fairly liberal guy, but he's also the guy who got suspended on Twitch for saying Kyle Rittenhouse's video was the clearest cut case of self-defense he's ever seen they got really mad at him for that so he's a cool dude we'd love to have him back on it be fun all right corn says thank you for your kind words when my dog passed may i offer the same kind words to you the tears shed for bocus are a testament to his impact. Yeah, it's not the same you know, we love Mr. Bocas.

I'm a dog person. Well, shout out to Bo, whoever that was that tweeted you a picture of Bo a couple days ago. You responded with a heart icon. Bo the dog. I'm thinking a lot about you, Bo, if you're out there. You are out there. Man, it's crazy. I was reading this meme and it said

to dogs and to cats, but it was like to dogs we are these tall beings of tremendous magical powers we can make images appear we can cure diseases we can create we make wonderful meals and food we can travel at ultra high speeds. And we live 10 lifetimes of a dog. We're basically like elves. Yeah. Yeah. Magic powers.

Shoot water out of tubes. Imagine what it would be like to be like living in a place where these beings, they live for a thousand years. They fly around. They can do whatever. And we're just like, man, that's what it's like for dogs and cats, you know. Let's grab this one. What do we got? Chris Page says,

Banks lost trillions and must find the money before January 1st. Then four major crypto founders have been found dead. FTX founder is jailed. Connection? Maybe. Those stories are creepy. I feel like Sam Bankman Freed was jailed for a lot of reasons other than just the banks losing money. He was jailed for a lot of reasons other than just the banks

was money. He was jailed right before he was supposed to testify. That's not, that's something strange. That's something weird. That's something that obviously I think stinks to high heaven. I didn't know about that. Yeah. He's going to, he was going to go before Congress and then all of a sudden they're like, nope,

nope, nope. Arrest him. You would want more information. You would want, if you're a prosecutor, I mean, correct me if I if i'm wrong you would want him to spill the beans be in front of a congressional committee get as much information as you can and then charge him why would you stop his testimony were they just getting testimony to see that was ammunition that was ammunition to to of course uh you know have a more successful case against him i bet they felt like they had enough because uh the doj went

charged him um there were three different organizations that charged him in the government and it was like for nine counts of fraud all these just i mean it was anyway tentacled vesicle vesicle says cats are natural anarchists they actually are yeah yep that's right dogs are more like soldiers you know loyal they trust you they trust they trust the chain of command well not all dogs some dogs are wild you know and and untamed but a good dog they trust the chain of command you know and then uh they're they're there for you and you're there for them that's the point all right i love max says i just had to put my cat max to sleep a few days ago he couldn't walk and he was a hunter i hope mr bocus can recover i feel your pain that mr bocus saw four doctors and they all said he can't recover and they're actually surprised

he lasted this long and uh he's a strong little dude the cardio cardio, what's the word for a cardiologist, I guess? The cardiovascular doctor said he's got a problem with his heart that he's had clearly for a while. It's genetic, developmental. The emergency doctor said his kidneys are underdeveloped. So it's probably why it happened at such a young age. The treatment for his heart problem is counterindicated for his kidney problem. So trying to treat both, it just, they harm each other. And so they were like, basically, we want to give him palliative care, hospice care

to improve his quality of life in his last few days. And she said, I'm really sorry, but I really do hope he makes it to Christmas. So I guess the big challenge for us is we're flying on Saturday to Turning Point USA for their M-Fest to do the show on stage, which is going to be really, really epic. And there really are some challenges that I thought about, so I'll wrap up with this final thought. You know, some people have said, no, no, Tim, you know, this is the line. Stay home. Stay with Mr. Bocas. And I'm like, if it was a family member perhaps as much as i love mr

bocus i also recognize my responsibility to humanity and not to my own selfish desires to spend time with an animal that i love so i do want to spend as much time as possible with him make my tribute video for him get him the treatment he needs but at a certain point i have to live my life and i have to keep up my responsibilities to all of you. And that is if we have an opportunity to spread good ideas and help people and make the world a better place, and we can do it to a great degree with Turning Point in Phoenix at this massive event with 10,000 plus people, that really matters. And I, you know, we'll spend as much time as I can with Mr. Bocas. And then we'll come back and hopefully, I believe we will have him for Christmas. it won't, it won't be the end. I mean,

they said maybe two months, so we're going to, we're going to assume two months, but if his time comes, his time comes. And, uh, as much as he is a cat that we love and we do, we'd be willing to spend whatever it took to save him. We have responsibilities to humanity as well. So, you know, I don't want to, I was thinking about if there was a sergeant or a commanding officer and he's with his unit and they're in the middle of a conflict and then he finds out that someone, you know, felon got hurt and they're dying

and he says, I'm going to leave the group. I've got to go see them. This is more important. I'm like, no, that's devastating for everybody else. So you can't, you can't abandon your post even, you know, so I think going, going to the event is, is, is important. And also there are a lot of people here who love him, who want to be with him as well, and we'll take care of him. So it's just the hard reality. I could, I could shut down the next few weeks of my life because Mr. Bocas unexpectedly took a turn for the worse. Or we can do our best for him.

I can spend as much time with him. And then, you know, we both live our lives. Yeah, I agree with you. I thought that my own grief was selfish. And it is in a little way. But, like, why is me dealing with, like, there's so much more out there. You listening. Your grief. Like, I don't want to waste your time with mine. It's important that we grieve together.

But there's a bigger, a bigger story. All right, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, become a member at Timcast dot com, because we have a couple stories. They're just actually kind of awful. So after that heartfelt tug on your heartstrings, we're going to talk about how nasty things kind of are, because Joe Biden's coming out and defending, you know, grooming and other horrible things. We'll talk about that. You can follow the show at TimCastIRL.

You can follow me personally at TimCast. Gene, you want to shout anything out? Look, I just, I really appreciate the opportunity to be here. And I think you have a stellar audience i think you guys are really onto something and i think there's some real opportunities for freedom loving americans as we as we progress into the future right on where can people where can people find you what's your twitter account so you can find me at uh america first legal um but it's america one st legal, and also at www.aflegal.org.

So that is where we are. That is where I am. We post everything that we do, all of our work there, and I encourage everyone to go check it out. It's a good time. Gene, thank you so much for coming on. That was a great conversation. My website is LukeUncensored.com, where I made a video about a very similar topic about how you should cherish your pets and your family.

I did a video that was titled, This is How You Actually Help Your Family First. And it kind of goes off the conversation that we had yesterday when it came to, of course, very tumultuous political conversations at the dinner table. There's ways of achieving these conversations and getting your family on board, helping them out and working together to be the best, strongest versions of yourselves. Family is more important than ever. LukeandCensor.com. See you there for that conversation, as well as the conversation in the forum where we are giving out prizes as well. Ian Crosland, you can follow me, IanCrosland.net, but really go check out Luke's video on putting family first. That's important.

If you didn't see Tim talking about Bucko with Bucko and Allison, the video's worth watching. It's a great cat. I'm talking about you, homie. Bucko's a good cat, too. Bye, guys. And I'd like to shout out Kellen. Speaking of people that you appreciate, Kellen PDL at Kellen PDL.

He'll be taking over for the next couple days here while I fly out to Phoenix and get everything ready for the show in Phoenix for AmFest. It'll'll be fun it's going to be really interesting because we're doing the show live on stage at tp usa with some high profile people who probably will say very spicy things so i'm like i'm ready for it you know look this is a massive event it is what it is all right everybody head over to timcast.com we're gonna have that members only show coming up for you in about 45 minutes or so click the join us button at timcast.com when you do you'll also see

a picture of mr bocus he is front and center in our little talent roster thanks for hanging out and we'll see y'all there cheers