Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #696 Elon Musk DECLARES WAR On World Economic Forum w/ DC Draino

Episode Date: January 19, 2023

Tim, Ian, Luke, & Serge join DC Draino to discuss Elon Musk saying the WEF is an unelected world government, Customers of Bank of America panicking as their money is missing due to a glitch, Peter Thiel slamming Greta Thunberg, & the Daily Wire's response to Steven Crowder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And he's ramping things up, putting up a poll saying, should the World Economic Forum control the world? And so I dig it. I like Elon Musk speaking out against these people. Apparently he claims that he was invited and that he didn't want to go.

Sounded boring. They're claiming now that he was never invited. But anyway, you got all these elites lining up their private jets, flying into Davos, and then lecturing us

on climate change, claiming that you, in fact, are the problem. So these are nasty people, but we'll talk all about that. And then something else came up because someone super chatted right before we started about Bank of America. I don't know exactly what's going on, but I saw some videos where people were saying

that money disappeared from their accounts. And then Luke was mentioning that he was having weird issues with Bank of America as well. And so I'm like, is there a story here? Or is this like, I don't know. So I'm gonna have to look into this one because it sounds really crazy. I watched this video,

this guy's in the branch saying like, where's our money? And everybody is like, yo, they're saying our money's gone. That's creepy. Especially considering you got the World Economic Forum

basically saying that there's going to be a major cyber attack or cyber event happening. So that's the next big thing. So it's kind of like, you know, I'll take their word for it, you know, considering who they are and what they do. I'll take their word for it.

But a couple of, a bunch of other stories. Greta Thunberg got arrested the other day. I want to talk about that. And then we got Matt Gaetz wants to abolish the ATF. That sounds fun. So we'll get into that. Before we get started, my friends, head over to TimCast.com, become a member to support our work.

As a member, you get access to exclusive uncensored members only shows monday through thursday at 11 p.m from this show and i'll tell you why you know we really do appreciate your membership my voice is all screwed up i don't even know why because uh it's been like it's been you know like six days now and i'm not even sick or anything it's just not getting better so i took the past couple of days morning shows off, which means ad revenue is going to be in the gutter. But because you guys are members, it's actually helping keep the company running because employees got to get paid and all that stuff. That's the bulk of our costs, like any business. So long as you're a member, I'm actually able to have a sick day. And that's really important for me. But I really appreciate that you guys sign up at timcast.com, click on

that join us button. So we'll have a members only show coming up for you tonight. So don't forget to also smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole bunch more is DC Drano. Thank you for having me. It's an honor and a privilege. Who are you? What do you do?

So I am a former Hollywood entertainment attorney that talks shit on the internet now, mostly in the form of memes. But I also just got back my Twitter after two years of being suspended. Thank you, Elon Musk. And so now I'm doing it on Twitter as well. Interesting. And then are you able to talk about what's going on with you and Twitter? Yeah. So when I got banned in 2021, early 2021, I got this really mysterious phone call from someone. They're like, hey, hit me up on Signal. And I'm like, okay. And they're like, you're on a list. And I'm like, yeah, I assume I'm on all the lists.

And they're like, no, no, no. You're on a government list, like Code Orange. You're talking too much about election stuff. And I'm like, okay, well, I mean, $81 million, my ass, I'm going to keep talking about it. And sure enough, a couple weeks later, Drano is spreading election misinformation. I am a licensed attorney in the state of California, and they shut down my free speech. I brought this stuff to Harmeet Dhillon and Ron Coleman. They took on my case. They even put it in their nonprofit Center for American Liberty.

So they're actually paying a bunch of the costs. And we have been suing for a couple years. And we're in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. And we're awaiting our decision. We had our hearing. And so all these Twitter files, that is actually something that we've known about for a couple years. And we're actually in the pipeline. So I'm very optimistic.

We should get into that if, later on in the show. But thanks for hanging out, man. We got Luke. Hey, guys. Lots of talk at Davos about banning red meat. That's because they want you eating Bill Gates' moves creating GMO seed oil fake meat. So that's why I decided to wear my brought-to-you-by-fake-meat T-shirt that you could exclusively get on thebestpoliticalshirts.com

soon to be unbanned on Instagram with the moobs so we're very excited about that. You can get the shirt on thebestpoliticalshirts.com because you do. That's why I'm here. Thanks for having me. Well, I'm Ian Cross and also happy to be here. Just realized DC Drano is the actual Drano to unclog the drain in the

swamp in DC. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Thank you. I've just been seeing DC Drano for whatever reason. I hadn't clicked like that. Like, oh, yeah. I had my name on my Twitter when I got it back. And then I did a poll. I was like, do you guys want Rogan O'Handley or DC Drano? And it was like, overwhelmingly, we want DC Drano.

I was like, okay, fine. Got to give the people what they want. Do you want to go by Rogan? Do you go by Rogan on the show, basically? Yeah, whatever. Funny story. Cassandra sends me an email and she's like, hey, we're going go by Rogan on the show, basically? Yeah, whatever. Funny story. Cassandra sends me an email, and she's like, hey, we're going to have Rogan on the 18th or whatever.

And I was like, what? She was like, yeah, he's going to come by. And I was like, really? I was like, I'm surprised he didn't hit me up. And then we were like, oh, wait, that Rogan. Yeah, that Rogan. My full name is Rogan O'Hanley, and I was searching some hater comments on Twitter recently,

and someone wrote that Rogan O'Hanley is an old Gaelic term for a sad hand job. Wow. I just thought that was very clever. Does Rogan mean sad? Well, first off, there is no such thing. Okay. But I did think it was clever, and I posted it on Instagram. Right on. We got search press buttons. Yo, yo what's up guys uh at search.com um hope you guys are well this will be a good show

i'm excited to meet a fellow hollywooder always who left and kind of got like you said radicalized out of what they want you to think yeah looking forward to it man let's jump into this first story we got this from timcast.com we got a couple things actually quote unelected world Yeah, looking forward to it, man. this Twitter poll. So if you guys are on Twitter, you can go click that no button. The World Economic Forum should control the world. Yes, no. 1.6 million people said, I voted, and 13%, so we're looking at like 200,000 people,

said yes. You know what, I've been thinking a lot about World Economic Forum lately, and Klaus Schwab obsessed with like stakeholder capitalism, shareholder capitalism, evolving the system, the economic. And I'm like,

you know what he's missing out on is statehood. Like statehood is, comes before economic, your economic system. Statehood is a concept that exists without economics. You don't need, and Klaus is obsessed. All he focuses on is economics and the economic structure of things.

He's missing out on the political structure of things, which is, I think paramount is that we have statehood. We have local central, local government where like you have decentralized structures of authority. That's missing out on the political structure of things, which is, I think paramount is that we have statehood. We have local government where you have decentralized structures of authority. That's key. You're missing the point. That's not what they want. They want centralization. They want all the power

in their hands. They don't want statehood. They don't want sovereignty. They don't want independence. They don't want you being proud of where you're from. They want to break you apart. They want to play a larger divide and conquer agenda as they take everything else for themselves because how else would they be able to get as rich as they are without them running larger Ponzi schemes on everyone else inside of not only the United States, but the entire world.

And the conversations happening at Davos, I've been paying attention to them. They're creepy. They're out of the 1984 Orwellian hellscape. You can't even imagine the horrors that these people are describing and they're cheering it on talking about like it's going to be incredible when you guys don't have any red meat when you have mandatory requirement of of of making sure that that you are reporting your carbon emissions making sure that there's going to be regulations on speech regulations on bitcoins uh there's going to be global cyber attacks there's going to be regulations on speech, regulations on Bitcoins. There's going to be global cyber attacks.

There's going to be major attacks against free speech. And they're like, yeah, this is great. This is awesome. We need central bank digital currencies. We need places where you can't leave, where you're going to be stuck in with 15-minute sustainable communities. This is absolutely crazy what they're doing. And they deserve to be countered because their policies are becoming law. Who are these laws serving? What's a 15-minute community?

So they're testing this actually in the United Kingdom right now. It's where you're going to need permission to cross over from one neighborhood to another, where everything is 15 minutes inside of your community, so you don't need a car, so you get to walk, or you get to ride around in your bike. To have a car and go from one community to another, you're only allowed a certain amount of times to do that then you need government permission in order to just travel in your car and the main idea is to keep you in a prison to keep you in a grid where you are stuck and this is a pilot program that's

going to be happening in a major uk town in just a few years from now that they're going to be instituting with surveillance cameras, artificial intelligence, facial recognition, plate reading cameras, making sure that you are essentially living in a prison. Yeah, but this only affects poor people, right? So, you know, the rich people don't got to worry about it? Is that...

Well, it depends how rich. Are you in the club? Are you sacrificing, you know... Trump's not rich enough. So now they like borders. Yes. A lot of borders. And they want more borders in order to control people better. There's a reason Klaus Schwab says China is the model for the world.

That's because they've been testing a lot of their latest technocratic technology and enslavement of humanity in that country. Now they're going to be rolling it out everywhere else. What's this cyber 9-11 stuff they've been talking about? They've been talking about that for a long time. They had a war game a couple months ago where they actually worked with the Russian government simulating larger cyber attacks

that were supposed to be happening on the world and how they would deal with that. This is very similar to Event 201 where a lot of the very same kind of central players in COVID were talking about a pandemic situation that they were training for and drilling for right before COVID happened. So a couple months ago, they're training specifically a drill called Cyber Polygon, where they specifically were doing these larger tests of what's going to happen when everything

in our online infrastructure gets shut down and is weaponized against the people? How are they going to be responding to it? This, as they're saying and kind of foretelling that their next kind of bigger psyops, the next kind of bigger terrorist attack is going to be online, is going to be digital, and is going to be affecting everyone. And potentially could have already started a couple of days ago, especially what would happen with the FAA, with them essentially shutting down and not allowing airplane traffic for two hours in the United States, first time ever since 9-11. There's a cyber attack that did that, right?

Potentially, we don't know yet. We don't know the exact details here, but I get riled up against this so much because the writing's on the wall. They talk about this. They brag about this. They literally have all these articles and documents where they're like, yes, this is how we're going to implement this vision of you being a slave and us having all the power over you. Sorry,

you want to say something? I'm going on a tangent here. No, it's extremely important information. They do like to tout it. It sounds less like, hey, you guys should all watch out for this and more of a, hey, this is what we're planning to do next. And we're just kind of troubleshooting the social effects. And so it almost seems like, oh, Bank of America shut down. Oh, FAA. And they just, okay, when airlines go down, this is what they do. When the electricity goes out, this one, there's no money.

So they're catering to our responses, I believe. And I actually tweeted about this. I said, hey, WF is talking about a cyber attack and the governments are talking about it. But when we bring it up, they call us conspiracy theorists. And Elon actually responded to the tweet and he just wrote under it, Starlink. Yeah, man, that's what you ultimately,

I don't know if it's unhackable, but you need systems outside the system like klaus this top-down authority thing doesn't work with statehood you can't make it happen when local authorities have control and communication and and um delivery of goods like if you have drone delivery services like we can get jeff bezos amazon to create like a orbital drone delivery system along with elonlink, I think we're really talking about some sort of freedom. Well, their enemy is statehood. Their enemy is nationalism.

Their enemy is pride in one's country. Because once you get rid of that, you could allow people to be internationalists. Because when you destroy a nation for the personal benefit of the few, these people don't care about the United States. They don't care about the Constitution. Contrary to a lot of people's beliefs, they hate the Constitution. They hate that people have the

First Amendment and the Second Amendment, and they're doing everything in their power. They're manipulating people as much as they can. They're doing so many underhanded things in order to make sure that the rule of law, the Constitution, the most important rights that are extremely rare in human history are obliterated and destroyed. That's exactly what they did in China. And what they did in China is what they're going to be doing to the rest of the world very soon, because a lot of their policies that they called for are literally being implemented slowly and surely. Look what happened to Sri Lanka. They complied. That was another major test of the compliance system. Sri Lanka had a 98% ESG social credit score. World Economic Forum saying Sri Lanka is going to be the best country out there.

What's happening to Sri Lanka right now? Energy shortages, the schools are shut down, businesses are shut down, energy rationing, government taxing, every little aspect of your life. But they have diversity. Are you talking about California? Yes. This is their planned destruction of our life. And this is why California.

This is why New Zealand. This is their planned destruction of our life. And this is why California, this is why New Zealand, this is why Australia, this is why the United Kingdom, the Netherlands and Sri Lanka are all adopting the same policies at the same time. Top down centralized control of the control, the demolition of the entire Western world. That's what we're seeing right now. It's serious. And the implications here are going to be very severe. It's been I think we were talking a little bit before the show about the King of England and that his ties to the World Economic Forum. I'm not too super- He's one of the early kind of co-founders

of the World Economic Forum. And you'll see him, it's actually kind of interesting when they bring him on stage, I don't know if you guys can find the video, but they put like the fleur-de-lis behind him and it's like a crown over his head right when he's speaking.

He is, I think that the WEF, I am very confident, is his way of expanding England's imperialist intentions through the back door. They're like, oh, we don't need to put redcoats in every country. We just need to control the top players in government, media, and business, and then we can have a lot of control. You know, King Charles, or Klaus Schwab, he talks about how we have people in the Canadian Parliament and in the Canadian cabinets in New Zealand and Canada, New Zealand, and Australia

are all constitutional monarchies ultimately subject to the authority of King Charles. And which three countries were the most oppressive during the covid lockdowns with the mandatory vaccines with you know vaccine passports it was those three countries and israel concentration camps china really i think but the thing about china is they're so locked down we didn't know any countries remember when those three kids escaped from that uh was it howard springs facility and then people were like, no, no, no, it's not a concentration camp. It's just for people who are sick. And they're posting bikini-clad women looking all happy.

Meanwhile, three native indigenous Australian kids threw burlap sacks over the barbed wire and tried to climb out and escape because they were forcefully relocated. And they had checkpoints because of that. They literally locked down entire cities looking for these three kids, which were a danger to society. They were imprisoning people and putting them in quarantine camps because they had disagreements and arguments with police officers who were just sick of someone and said, you know what? You tested positive, even though they did not.

And those photos are actually from the Olympics. And a lot of the Australian Olympic team were using that facility previously before. And that's where they got all the pictures of all the hot babes. But essentially, it was just, you know, a camp that the government detained you for as long as they wanted to, without you having any kind of recourse. It's an important point to be made, though. Look at what happened with Claire Lehman from Quillette. She was this free speech advocate living in Australia.

Then Australia goes full Death Star and she immediately falls in line and says, it's all okay. Everything they're doing is completely fine. You're all wrong. That's how quickly, you know, some of these people's integrity holds up. If you ever wanted to know what it's like, what you're going to do when tyranny takes over, you just found out the last three years. Yep.

How you responded. That was the greatest psychological operation ever conducted on humanity in the history of the world. And if you went through that and obviously, you know, if you didn't get the jab or if you resisted the mass or whatever, you know, pat yourself on the back because that's quite impressive. I think America, I think we actually achieved a huge victory. And I do want to give a lot of credit to the Canadian truckers. They set the wheels in motion. But I think they're like, crap, we still had, despite all that, despite trillions of propaganda, 30%, 40% of Americans did not fully comply. And it's probably going to be worse the second time around.

Yeah, yeah. It was like an inoculation. For me, it was. The rat hope experiment. We've talked about it. You familiar with it? No. Dude takes three cylinders full of water and some rats, puts the rats in the cylinders.

They swim for 15 minutes, then give up and die. He then takes another group of rats, puts them in the cylinders. They swim for 15 minutes and then give up and die. He then takes another group of rats, puts them in the cylinders. They swim for 15 minutes, give up. But then he grabs them and pulls them out, dries them off, lets them rest,

puts them back in. The second time, they swam for 60 hours. Oh. Because when they had hope, they said, I'm not going to give up. The first group of rats

were just like, I have no idea what's happening. I'm tired. This is it. I'm done. Second group of rats were like, I will be saved what's happening i'm tired this is it i'm done second group of rats were like i will be saved the hand will come back and they kept swimming that's the first time i've been appreciating being called a rat that's crazy now imagine the experiments that the cia are working on right now that we don't even know about probably with very similar situations very similar circumstances but instead of rats they're probably doing it

well that's that's what people think about the lockdowns the lockdowns were the first 15 minutes and then everybody started to lose their minds then they okay everybody we're going back to normal everybody come back out come back out they're going to re-lock down so the hypothesis goes and this time they're going to be like don't don't worry just like last time we'll we'll lift the lockdown soon it's coming it's coming they won't but people will go 300 times longer in lockdown i got a little bit of a different take from that is that the the willingness to resist and then their in inability to enforce it is the hope like that's us getting pulling ourselves out of the tank realizing like oh you don't have to submit to this personally i just see things a little bit differently i don't think they're going to try to

launch another kind of pandemic from here. I think it's going to be digital. I think there's going to be an attack on our infrastructure. It's going to lead to a lot of chaos. And then they're going to come in and say, hey, it's dangerous to have an open and free Internet. We need to take control of it. And that's the last thing. That's the last step that they need.

Fully controlling the Internet, fully taking it over from people like Elon Musk and other individuals that are still allowing free speech, everything and saying, this is now in our control for your safety and your health and well-being. Just one more point before we move on to this particular story. Robert Kennedy Jr. actually just did a very fascinating interview that I just retweeted talking about how the central controllers, people at the CIA during COVID weren't looking out for your best interest, weren't talking about and making studies and looking into how to help people, how to give them early treatments. He goes on and talks about how the CIA used the COVID-19

response to increase their top-down government, authoritarianism, and totalitarianism, and had this as an opportunity to run many psychological operations to see what they could get away with. This is Robert Kennedy Jr. Fascinating video. Just tweeted about it on The 4-Year Change. I want to pull up this story because this is freaky stuff, man. This is from Click2Houston, NewsGuard certified.

They say, what's going on with Bank of America? Social media users call out financial giant over missing money. They say social media erupts from the everyday consumer to heavyweight political and business figures. The financial giant's timeline was flooded with complaints in the form of posts and mocking memes.

One commenter appeared to ask the question that everyone seemingly wanted to know, what's going on with Bank of America? Apparently they were trending after many customers discovered that money was missing from their accounts. The concerned consumers shared their experiences online.

Down Detector, a consumer website, reported the issues happening with Bank of America around 10.30 a.m. You want to know what's really funny? I learned this lesson, a very important lesson

I think everybody needs to know. Do you know what your bank account is? Do you want to know what it is? Do you know what it is? My guess is it's a computer program. It's a text file. Yeah.

It's a text file. .txt. The amount of money you have in your bank is quite literally just input text there's no cash there's no gold literally nothing and i learned this the hard way because i bought a truck and uh paid i we we financed it and then after a few months i paid i went to pay off like i paid off the whole thing three months later I get a phone call and they're like we're going to repossess your truck because you never paid the bill I was like what are you talking about I paid the I paid the whole thing off and they're like no you didn't both

banks my bank which I did the transfer from and their bank said we have no record of where this money is my bank said when we do the transfer out all we do is write minus the number and press enter and it subtracts from your account and then they confirm our our subtraction and they do the addition the problem was the other bank didn't do the plus so the money vanished disappeared that's completely completely disappeared and then i said it was unsafe how where did the money go and they were like we don't know and i'm like i don't understand and then i and then you know i basically had a guy say to me like he didn't say it like this but what do you think your money in the bank is there's no cash in there you do not

have a a box full of cash in a vault they quite literally just type a number and press enter yeah it's promissory notes. No, no, no, no, no, it's not. It's not even a crypto. Like you think with Bitcoin, there's an encryption key behind that Bitcoin. It exists, you could hold it. There's something there at least,

a string, a hash code. With your bank, literal nothing. The only thing that exists is the ledger itself. And when the ledger doesn't reflect the actual transaction, it doesn't matter because the other bank went, we don't know. We don't have the money. And my bank said, we don't have the money either. Your money is just gone. It's so hackable.

That is so controllable to think that these private companies have secret text files that have your money on it, that they can change it well behind the scenes, or that someone else could hack it. At that point, I do believe crypto is more secure. Even though you could lose it and it could go to zero, they're not at least doing it. They diversify your assets, not necessarily in just what you invest in, but having crypto, having cash in the bank, having cash at home. And like you mentioned a few days ago having gold i mean it when things go south let me you want to have tangible assets just in case i'll tell you guys a story when i was uh when i was like 20 i think i was like 21 my buddy overdrafts and he's like why did why did i overdraft this this doesn't make sense what happened was in chic, there was this big scandal

where the CTA, the public transit, was double charging people. So, we're broke. He's got 30 bucks in the bank. He spends 20 bucks. Then his paycheck comes in on a Friday.

He should have 180 bucks. Instead, he's like negative 200. And he's like, what happened? Well, apparently what happened was the CTA double charged him putting him negative then he got hit with overdraft fee overdraft fee bought a pack of gum for two dollars when it's $30 fee right stupid so then he he

accumulates all these overdraft fees his paycheck doesn't cover him he's trying to buy things he's getting more and then all of a sudden he's negative and i could be totally wrong about this because it's been 20 years but but I'm pretty sure, we go to the bank, this is a crazy story, and we're hanging out, and he sits down with this manager guy in a suit, and he says,

he pulls up his bank account, and he's pointing at things. He was like, look, look right there, like CTA, charge me three times. That caused me to go negative. Then my paycheck came in,

and the guy was just like, okay, okay. He turns the monitor around, and then he starts typing stuff in he spins it back around and it says like negative 400 and he puts the cursor on the negative and clicks backspace and it says how does that look and then my friend's like uh okay and then he was like there you go and he enter did something and we were like wait what just happened? Does he now have 400 bucks? But get this, the bank closed down a few weeks later.

So I have to wonder what may have happened was this guy knew he was getting laid off, the manager. And so he was like, screw these people and just transferred money. But I'm almost kind of like, was he screwing with us? Because there's no way he can do a hard input and just change someone's- I think he can. They have discretionary. A person on the phone can be like, yeah, I'll overwrite your $35 charge, but they only have

a certain limit that they can overwrite. And then the manager is probably like $500 per customer per week or something you can- We used to be backed by gold. I mean, this is a relatively, the last hundred years, Central Bank, Federal Reserve, I mean, I'm sure everyone watching has knowledge on that. But I mean, there used to be when you said, hey, I'd like to take out money. They had gold to trade it in. One quick note on the rat thing. I actually misinterpreted it that, oh, they put them in, they'll last longer. I think we, the people, would actually, if they're going to put us back on the tank, we just bite their

hand a lot. I don't think I'd go back swimming in that tank for 60 hours i would i would i think a lot of people they want to get people to put themselves in the tank i think a lot of people would also be like eh when we don't think of how many people don't trust the cdc the fda big for i was like never like that really before If you trust the government now, you haven't been paying attention and you had your head in the sand for the last three years. I didn't trust the government,

but I thought at least the medical people were generally pretty squared away. Let's add the banking component into what's going on now. There's a viral video of people in a bank and they're like, where's our money, right? Think about what can happen if this cyber event is everyone's money disappearing what happens everyone's no everyone then calls

the government and says i want my fdic insured whatever and now all of a sudden you are on your knees in front of some government bs being like please sir may i have another please regulate this industry more please now we need a central bank digital currency now we need a universal basic income and that's one of the perfect ways to implement they're going to come out they're going to be like we don't know what happened it was a cyber attack the whole the whole it's the russians the ledger's gone down it was russia who did it what we're going to do is we're going to give everybody five thousand dollars in their accounts for the time being so you can have basic goods all the poor people are going to do is we're going to give everybody five thousand dollars in their accounts

for the time being so you can have basic goods all the poor people are going to be like yay and all the rich people and all the middle class people are going to be like my life is being destroyed we need to put in a new patriot act but this one's going to have a dollar sign after it patriot act for money what do you guys think about patriot act goal i think that the central bank digital currency that they're talking about doing is probably going to happen at some point and it'll probably usurp the dollar or become part of the dollar and like a dollar bill will represent as a token but what do you guys think about like a united states decentralized crypto like bitcoin but like just backed by you the united states government totally decentralized what does that

mean backed by the threat of being drone bombed? Yeah, exactly. Because I was like, what would I say to Congress? How do we fix the economy? I'm just grasping at straws. But obviously- Our money used to be gold, but now it's the threat of being blown up. Literally.

And it's all- Use the money or else. Everything is drifting electronic, right? So California is kind of like a predictor of things to come in terms of the leftist agenda here they want your car to be electric they want your stove to be electric they want your money to be purely electric why because you can control things that are electric yeah you have the grid i wouldn't say drifting i would say it's like you know hell careening yeah careening is a better word so maybe instead of it being backed by force it

would just be like america you can buy american goods with this cryptocurrency in addition to the u.s dollar and then it was dt um yeah something like that but like that's backed i think by the dollar they have to have dollar reserves that's tethered like literally i think that's a state yeah that's tether yeah that's the stays the exact value is the dollar so it could be but i think it would take off and become more valuable than the dollar just because it's digital. Then the power could always go out, and then you're back to basics. That's why cash, you could never – I don't think you ever should get rid of cash, ever. But I don't imagine they'll try and put those – what do they call those little barcodes on each dollar bill?

QRs. QRs, or I'm talking about the little metal strips that they put in your credit card. They're printed from foil, but they can magnetically measure where you're at and all that track you. Well, there's also a war on cash, and many places already have stopped accepting it in many businesses as well,

and they don't have the exact change for it. I thought that was illegal. Well, I think, I don't know, I have to look into that, but there's a better idea. There's microchips that you could shove up, you know what, and then you have to be tracked you know, attracted, and it's inside of you. And they'll know that it's going to be your transaction. And you have to be probed every time you want to use, you know, the money and they know, they know exactly it's coming from you to

whatever else you're buying. And then they have a perfect record. And then they'll know exactly how many taxes you have to pay. They'll know exactly what you're buying. They'll share it with all the big corporations that will know your consumer activities, which will help them sell you better products. What's the libertarian solution? Because the US dollar is a real status thing. You can go to Wyoming and buy groceries at a grocery store there with the US dollar because the American military is like, you better, or we are in control, and everyone is using the U.S. dollar here. There's a reason libertarians and the Ron Paulers have been screaming about the dangers of the U.S. Federal Reserve for so many years. If you look at Ron Paul, even before the major financial problem,

one of the things that he was making arguments against is the Federal Reserve printing money out of thin air. This was before 2008. That it has been a staple position of many libertarians, of many anti-statists saying, hey, this creature from Jekyll Island is a big problem because they could literally create inflation. They could create deflation, but they know what's going to happen so they could game the market so they are always the winners and you will always be the loser. And this is what they've been doing for decades on decades on decades and this is why the libertarians have been talking about this because

you you get rid of that central bank just like thomas jefferson did uh that he gets put on the 20 bill uh but but you get rid of that you allow people to have more freedom and you're not controlled by the whims of banksters well let's talk about this controlled opposition i got this tweet here from chairwell that says peter teal bashes greta and the autistic children's crusade in his address at the oxford union blaming environmentalism for some of the greatest crises of our time andy way reports that's a bold statement from uh from peter teal about greta it's interesting though because you know what's what's peter teal's deal i, isn't he like a Davos group or no? He's not.

I think he probably was former Davos. I mean, I think he's kind of old school Silicon Valley, right? When Silicon Valley started, these guys were like tech libertarians. Like we're giving a voice to the people and then money and banks and all that got involved. You know, I was going to say to your point, there's three things you can't audit. The Federal Reserve, our elections, and the DOD budgets. So we got Greta Thunberg,

which is, I guess, what? Blanket-controlled opposition, fairly obvious to anybody. She doesn't protest in China. She protests the West, which is doing everything in its power to get rid of carbon emissions. Peter Thiel comes out and bashes Greta,

calling it Greta and the Autistic Children's Crusade. But this guy, I thought Peter, I know Peter Thiel's out and bashes Greta, calling it Greta and the Autistic Children's Crusade. But this guy, I thought Peter, you know, I know Peter Thiel's had some good opinions, but I thought he was like Bilderberg. Well, I mean, he just sponsored J.D. Vance and Blake Masters for Senate, which I think is a testament to him. I was at a Blake Masters fundraiser in Miami at Peter Thiel's house, and he gave a quick speech. And I was admittedly like, I was like, wait, Peter Thiel is like a silicon valley guy facebook like come on i'm not and his speech which you know early paypal was great

current paypal sucks early paypal was amazing yeah uh and his speech blew me away three minutes and i was like oh he's a good guy now and i think we've seen that with elon musk with you know joe rogan like these guys they're kind of getting more and more emboldened with Tim Pool. I think he said we have about three years left to save America from a communist takeover. Peter said that. Peter Thiel said that.

Last year. We have two. He has a very interesting career, especially what happened with BuzzFeed, especially him being ousted by them and then kind of getting retribution through Hogan. Him coming out and supporting Donald Trump, especially during the RNC, was pretty ballsy, too. But he has a very interesting kind of career. He's also with Palantir, with Alex Karp, who was at Davos today, specifically talking about how he is a progressive, helping the

intelligence agencies and working on AI technology that will help track down Russians in the battlefield, but also giving this technology to the U.S. intelligence agencies and how a lot of progressives should be happy that he's doing so because he's stopping a lot of right-wing terrorist attacks. But that's Alex Karp, another Bilderberg member who's working with Peter Thiel on Palatir. I talked to Peter Thiel twice at Bilderberg already, and he is a Bilderberg steering committee member. So there's a lot of mystery there. There's still a lot of questions.

I would love to have a bigger discussion with him. He's kind of a little mysterious figure, but I think definitely there deserves to be a bigger conversation to be had with him because he's interesting. I agree, too. And, you know, look look we're doing the whole coffee shop thing the cafe skate shop physical location stuff and it's and it's particularly inexpensive

relative to um other businesses like setting up a coffee shop is not as expensive as setting up like a media company i bring this up because i wonder with peter teal being worth what is he like two billion dollars i'm genuinely curious i'm not saying he's doing nothing but i'm wondering setting up like a media company. I bring this up because I wonder with Peter Thiel being worth, what is he like $2 billion? I'm genuinely curious. I'm not saying he's doing nothing, but I'm wondering if he really feels this way about how we got three years to save this country. What is he doing?

And again, not saying he's doing nothing. I'm genuinely curious. Like what are his approaches and strategies with all of his resources to try and save this country? If he even is. I've only seen what has been public. I mean,

you know, kind of Bilderberg, he was on the Facebook board, right? And you would think, oh, that's bad because Facebook is very censoring and they kicked the president of the United States off. But it's also kind of good because we want some representation on that board, too. So, you know, there is a kind of a flip side to it. But all I can attest to, I'm not a Peter Thiel expert, but he did back those two Senate candidates. I think he was like the second or third biggest GOP donor. He recognizes the time in this country where we're at. And I imagine he'll be a big supporter in 2024, but I don't know fully what his plan is. The Palantir thing is interesting. It's basically spy and i mean it's like new 21st century spy tech from what i know i know very little about it uh except that it's spy tech i just want to make a correction really quick it wasn't buzzfeed it

was gawker where he went i apologize no uh with peter thiel and hogan uh the hogan lawsuit oh yeah oh right right yeah so i apologize i misspoke i made a mistake. What was that lawsuit, to clarify really quick? Gawker published sex tape of Hulk Hogan. The Hulkster. Yeah. And it was so brutal. They should not have done that. But they were like, oh, it's what we do. And Peter Thiel then funded the lawsuit.

And it's because Gawker outed him as gay. Okay. But the thing that's crazy is he does work around the world. He could be killed in some of these places. Yeah. Like the Middle East, especially. Yeah is which is a huge danger to him and it wasn't it wasn't a newsworthy story it was a gossip story that they tried to of course hurt him over which was again ridiculous but sorry so palantir also big thing that people need to

discuss because they have a big presence in the intelligence community and the intelligence community the fbi the c CIA depends on them a lot. Yeah, I invest. I was advised, hey, Palantir, invest. So I did. I like made like 10 times my money on the freaking thing in the beginning. Ian comes up to me one day.

I'm in, this was like a year and a half ago. Before COVID. It was like right around when COVID was beginning. No. Early 2020. Well, you came, we were here. Oh yeah, yeah. I'm in my first office.

And then you walk up and you're like, dude, my friends are saying, you got to buy a bunch of Palantir stock. And I was like, I'm not going anywhere near that. Yeah, yeah. I was like, when it comes're like, dude, my friends are saying you got to buy a bunch of Palantir stock. And I was like, I'm not going anywhere near that. Yeah, yeah. I was like, when it comes to investment,

it's not about what you believe in. It's about what you know is going to make you money, unfortunately, sickeningly. I do that every once in a while. You can get really rich really quick. I sold it all. But anyway,

I think what's happening is I brought this up last night on the after show that maybe the CIA, the FBI, the NSA are the good guys. And that we are, or inadvertently

have been cannibalizing ourselves. Is there a mute button for it? Because it's only good relative to what else there is, the NSA are the good guys. And that we are, or inadvertently have been cannibalizing ourselves. Is there a mute button for it? Because it's only good relative to what else there is, the other options, which are the CCP, the World Economic Forum. So it's just a whole bunch of evil. So it's like the liberal economic order versus BRICS. I think they are already bought out by the CCP.

I think the CCP is so embedded. I mean, we already, oh, social credit scores. We already have that. Go ask someone like Laura Loomer or Alex Jones. The CCP is the testing grounds for the elites to push a lot of their unpopular policies to see the compliance levels that they want to bring to the

Western world. And this is like, you know, Ian, I think you have the Twilight Saga view of werewolf and vampires, whereas the classical view is if a werewolf and a vampire are fighting each other over you it's because they want to eat you not because they want to date you and so like the way you're describing like maybe they're the good guys insofar as as

worst bad guys i'm like yeah that's like you're imagining sparkly vampires who are just like i'm so in love with you i promise they're not the guys the lower level people are generally good people working hard and want to bust bad guys. The guys at the top are evil as corrupt as they can. Yeah, I guess it's not a monolith. Alex Karp, the CEO of Palantir, had a lot of interesting comments today at Davos. He was talking about

how In-Q-Tel was one of the first kind of startups for a lot of these larger, bigger tech companies. He was talking about how the CIA, the FBI, the DOD were all involved and now how a lot of these bigger tech companies tech companies. He was talking about how the CIA, the FBI, the DOD were all involved, and now how a lot of these bigger tech companies are more aligned to the West. Because of that, he was going off and talking about

how they are creating algorithms at Palantir that are specifically used to, quote, target Russians on the battlefield. And later, he went on and said the U.S. government has our software and uses it very aggressively. That's Alex Karp today. CEO of Palantir

at Davos today. Very eye-opening comments, to say the least. I don't think anybody at the NSA is a good person. Not a single one. I just don't know them all, and I know companies aren't monoliths. The NSA is a Fourth Amendment-violating organization. I agree with that. There's no question.

Anybody at the NSA is like sitting there saying, I know we're in violation of the law of the land of this country, in violation of our oaths to uphold the Constitution, but oh well. There's no circumstance. Or they don't know, because sometimes they'll be doing it. What do you mean they don't know?

If you weren't educated about the Constitution, you wouldn't know. That's called the banality of evil. Yeah. So these people, and then when they learn, they're like, oh, oh, oh, I'm not doing that anymore. Like, people will wake up. You ever see that family guy joke where there's a murderer in prison, and then he's holding a knife, and he pokes himself and goes, whoa, is that what I'm doing to people? I deserve to be in here.

Like, as if they don't know. I don't know. Maybe. But it's just like, Like, as if they don't know. I don't know. Maybe. But it's just like, dude, look. Your chicken poster just fell. Oh, no. It's an omen. The NSA is listening.

It's not a poster. It's a painting. It's a very nice painting. I'll fix it in a second. It's a fed guy behind the wall with a glass, with a hearing glass. Listen, I'm not going to use Nazi Germany as an example. Let's use Soviet Russia. There were a lot of people working for the Gulag who were just like, look, I don't know what this guy did.

They told me he's a bad guy. And his crime was that he said we deserve better. There's a guy sitting in his apartment and he's looking at how awful everything is in the Soviet Union. And he goes outside and he goes, I think we deserve better. And then the Gulag guy says, go arrest him. And then some low-level dude goes, he's a criminal. I don't know. Is that a good guy?

No, he's taking someone and putting them in what we call the gulag. Or the cultural revolution in China where literally there was walks of shame against capitalists, against individuals who had private property, because those were the ones that were responsible for everyone's pain and suffering. And they literally humiliated them, tortured them in public squares with people cheering it on. Those are order followers. Those are back-to-blue people that should be questioned. That's the exact same thing they're doing to the J6 prisoners. It's the same thing you got to go and bend the knee and say that you don't like trump you don't like uh you know you don't believe in what he was saying and you know humiliation but i mean we just had mlk day right yeah uh under trump they released the letter from the fbi

telling mlk to commit suicide i mean he didn't didn't mean, this is what people have been saying, that the FBI is the one who killed him. I mean, yeah. No, there's a court. There's a civil court. There was a civil case in 1999 where a jury found the U.S. government complicit in the assassination of MLK,

and the MLK family won that particular lawsuit. Yes. I'm going to take their word for it. And so we have all this history think of uh jfk and rfk they spied on mlk under the fbi the doj attorney general was rfk he signed off on it they have a picture of a signature the president was jfk these are the greatest civil rights leaders of our time and they're the ones that spied on and told him to kill himself and then you know what they did herbert hoover was the director of the fbi they

named the fbi building after him that's the guy that told me i just want to add to this go ahead oh no i was gonna say they put andrew jackson on the 20 bill exactly just hated the central banks yeah and and the jesus man they make people worship the cross when that's the thing they killed him with but but the the hoover thing is important here because a lot of people are saying it was actually Hoover who was responsible for this who had a lot of skeletons in his closet and was allegedly also a crossdresser but the FBI did so many sinister things especially under COINTEL probe a lot of people don't even know this but they had full-on disinformation organizations and psyops running so people wouldn't organize together.

And what they did to the MLK wasn't just spying on him, wasn't just writing letters saying, hey, kill yourself. They were watching his every move. They knew that he cheated on his wife, took that information. And when MLK was in jail, they went to his wife and said, here's the evidence. Here's the tapes of MLK talking to his mistress. Divorce him. That is just absolute evil.

Their number one tactic in a movement is to go in and divide it. That's phone tell probe. I want to pull up this story from Fox News. A lot of people were talking about this. The video of Greta Thunberg getting arrested, sending Twitter into a frenzy. Time for many of us to stand up. And you got this clip where she's being carried away with a smile on her face.

And then I don't know if we, yeah, we do have it here. People are saying it's staged because you can see her laughing and smiling with some guy as the cops are just standing there with her and then they eventually just walk away and she's not being carried. I don't think it's staged. I don't.

The cops were probably told, okay, get the protesters out of here don't think it's staged. I don't. The cops were probably told, okay, get the protesters out of here. I think it was staged insofar as almost all nonviolent civil disobedience is staged, as in protesters will call the police and say, hey, we're going to go here, we're going to protest, just so you know. Then the cops say, okay,

we're going to come arrest you and say, okay. And then you get pressed. But here's the real story. The real story is that Greta Thunberg's friends attacked a bunch of journalists. Look at this from Andy Ngo. At the autonomous zone in Luzereth, Germany,

militant leftists and Antifa and climate extremists surrounded and attacked journalists. These are Greta Thunberg's friends, huh? This is something I think people need to bring up because I'm not playing these games. We've talked about the banality of evil.

If Greta Thunberg is going to be associating with these people, if she's going to be organizing protests and inviting these people, and if she's going to be organizing protests and inviting these people and if she will not call this out then she is complicit and she supports it i remember playing eco-terrorism in civilization 2 it was my first exposure as a young man to eco-terrorism and i was like oh these people are protected to civ 2 you could create eco-terrorist care or it

might have been the expansion to civ 2 it had to be an expansion yeah and you could create a character that was an eco-terrorist that could go it might have been the expansion to Civ 2. It had to be an expansion. And you could create a character that was an eco-terrorist that could go, and I was like, oh, they're defending the planet, but they're called terrorists. These are good units. I want eco-terrorists in my army because they're valuable. And I'm like, wait a minute. This is all, why do they call them terrorists if they're protecting the Earth? But I think Greta is willing to use violence or associate with people using violence because she thinks it's that drastic.

You see that flag right there? That's that drastic. Look at the flag. You see that flag right there? That's the flag of violent leftist violence. And I mean, hey, there are times and places that people have been destroying things to the point where you have to use violence to stop them from destroying it. But I don't think the global ecosystem is in that state right now. I'm not going to make a moral judgment on the protests. I am going to make a fact statement. Greta Thunberg's group

violently attacked journalists. Is it confirmed that they're all in the same group? Were they just all there kind of disparately? What does that even mean? Like they were all there

of their own volition, didn't know each other, but some people were violent. Some other people there are being lumped in. There's one group protesting climate stuff. Well, let's watch the video i didn't see the attack what game i'm not going to play is that these these leftists have long done this

where they quote unquote respect a diversity of tactics and then they'll they will all feign ignorance and reject responsibility for what they organize, which is violent attacks on journalists. It happens all the time. And then you'll get an organization and it'll be called like, you know, save the planet. And then when Antifa shows up and gets violent, they go, oh, well, not with us. Yes, they are. Otherwise, you'd have kicked them out. Otherwise, when that one crazy dude showed up in Portland and started doing the Nazi salute or whatever, they are. Otherwise, you'd have kicked them out. When that one crazy dude showed up in Portland and started doing the Nazi salute or whatever,

they threw him out. And then all the woke media ran pictures claiming he was at their event. It's like, yeah, getting kicked out. They said, get the F out. They won't kick these people out. They want them there to respect their diversity of tactics. It concerns me, man.

Greenpeace, they would go sink boats and blow up oil tankers. No, no, I don't think Greenpeace ever did that. They destroyed bridges? They're pacifists. Are you sure? I'm pretty sure. I've seen eco-terrorists do that kind of thing.

What happened with Greenpeace, Sea Shepherds are the ones that actually go and fight. Sea Shepherds is the one you're thinking of. Greenpeace, the French government bombed one of their boats or something like that. They blew it up and sank it. Now, I'm not saying Greenpeace are good dudes you know they will get like

water guns and they'll climb onto boats and they'll wave flags and do banner drops but I'm pretty sure Greenpeace isn't going around bombing anybody or anything like that

sea shepherds attacked at sea vessels attacked so these guys are known as yeah those are pirates yeah but pirates for earth

for planet earth well there's like a whole South Park I did say but pirates but pirates for planet earth yeah well okay so i still didn't see the the attack because i see a lot of social media posts that come up being like man attacks dude and thing and i'm like what did he do he got up in his face and yelled at him that's not an attack well if you saw they're like threw down the smartphone that they were using to record they kicked him in this video yeah kind of mild harassment stuff you know that's one thing i give antifa a little credit for is that they don't go too overboard they just kind of pepper spray and beat you up

a little bit they don't actually shoot you or stab you hey i'll just see this you'll see the attack it's a person that no orange dude with this yeah the dude in the orange is there's there yeah see that camera throwing the gear kicking the see that kicking the camera it's it's out of con what happened before to the guy oh come on dude i'm asking yeah yeah yeah i'd love to see it i you know you know what the one thing i can say is if i was going to have any sympathy for antifa it's because we all are sick and tired of journalists because like they're just liar like they lie for corporations. They lie for advertisers. And if it's not them, it's their bosses who do it.

So it's just like, I get why Antifa's mad. They hate journalists because journalists lie all the time. But I'm opposed to violence. So if Greta Thunberg wants to go to some protest and associate with this, then I'm going to call it like I see it. That's her group. I'm not saying she organized that group. I'm saying she's with them. So you think she has a responsibility to speak out against this

right now absolutely like when that dude showed up to in portland i forgot the guy's name and he started yelling the n-word they said get the out of here like dude it's it's tough for especially on the right because the media will lie anyway. And they will protect the left. Right now, I assure you, Media Matters is like writing something up where they're like, Tim Pool lies and claims

Greta Thunberg is violent or something. And that's the challenge. But I'm not going to play any games. If you are like, hey, everybody, meet me here, and then a bunch of violent lunatics attack journalists, and then you're like,

don't look at me. You have to say something. Put yourself in the reporter's shoes. You're there to try to report. Say you're coming from a good place. You're just trying to cover what's going on here because the corporate media is very sympathetic to what's happening here.

Al Gore is promoting Greta Thunberg today, right? So you're there covering what's going on, and then you've got some people coming up. You don't know who they are. You don't know if they have weapons. Start kicking you, slapping your camera, throwing you down, saying, get out of here, assaulting you, slapping you, punching you. And whenever you put your hands on somebody, again,

you shouldn't do that. I covered a lot of different protests, faced a lot of different insane situations. I got assaulted. I got jumped a couple of times. I got beat up a couple of times. But the best thing that I saw was in Hong Kong, where, of course, people there were protesting against the Chinese government. The Chinese government was using fake press as a way to get photos and videos of protesters and then arrest them and ship them away forever. What did the Hong Kong protesters do? They didn't assault journalists. They didn't beat them up.

But they figured out ways to kind of do their thing to, of course, have their face covered, but also use umbrellas in a way that prevented any kind of conflict or escalations when they were changing into black blocks since they were using black block tactics they used it in a way to not force or hurt anyone but but obfuscate their identity because there was a real threat for the chinese government coming in and disappearing people and they did it in a way that we didn't need any of this nonsense any of this kind of threat or assault of journalists, which we should always try to avoid and speak out against. Let's not lose sight of the irony of a flag standing for anti-fascism beating up journalists

for covering their... Well, I love that there's a meme where it's like a leftist yelling, just because the Nazis call themselves socialists doesn't mean they're socialists, and then holding the anti-fascist flag and being like, of course we're anti-fascists. It's in our name. Yeah. Don't take your word for it when you said the hong kong um rebellion what would you even call that an uprising uh resistance well the chinese state was coming in and not keeping their promise that they had with the uk government that they were going to transition hong kong to china in a very slow way the chinese government

did it in a very fast way and was, of course, also destroying a lot of key institutions in Hong Kong and a lot of the larger apparatuses and institutions that provided a lot of people liberty. They were getting rid of that. People protested, and then there was a violent crackdown on the protests. And it was just insane covering that situation

because it was truly so much different than covering a lot of the Western protests that I've seen in Greece or in Paris or even inside of the United States where a lot of the things were totally opposite. I heard they were putting crazy chemicals in like fire hoses with like blue ink and pepper and they would spray it and stick on your skin. Sticks on your skin for a while. It makes you blue so they know who's who. I got hit with it a little bit and I felt that stink for a very long time. Some people were covered in it. I just got hit with it a little bit, just covering the protest there.

I was there for some of the most violent, most insane interactions where there was just people getting seriously hurt and dying on the streets. These American and European Antifa are spoiled little brats. Go to Turkey. Go to Turkey, go to Brazil. It was an experience when I was in Brazil because I've been, you know,

Luke and I have both been pepper sprayed and tear gassed ad nauseum, literally, you know, throughout the United States. And it's like, you get gassed,

it sucks, you cough, whatever. You get pepper spray when you're taking a shower, later it burns. When I was in Brazil, I was like,

oh, they're tear gassing everybody. And then, as soon as the gas hit me like my nose and eyes just like mucus tears it was like 10 times more powerful yeah and it was just like your nose was just spraying mucus i took my i took my sock off and jammed it in my mouth to be able to keep breathing and i was like damn it was bad yeah in the united states they use like the lowest tier irritant and it's just like you know other countries don't give a damn the reason i brought heavy stuff in israel uh especially um in in gaza they they use like some very serious stuff uh not just cs gas but uh also uh there's like a skunk um gun as well they use some next

level stuff there which is just crazy. It concerns me that it's being tested on the rioters or what you call them, protesters. But okay, so you said they got black block. They were dressing in black block in Hong Kong. Do you think that was just, were they violent? Black block violence? Depends on the circumstance and situation. There was a couple instances where they stormed a government building.

They stormed parliament. There was also a couple instances where people they stormed a government building uh they stormed parliament there was also a couple instances where people were getting assaulted and beat up uh but not as much as of course a lot of the western protests so there was that as well do you think they were justified i don't think so i think anytime you try to use force and violence against someone else to enforce your ideas you're losing and you're in the wrong american revolution well that's a totally different thing that wasn't a protest, right? Yeah, it started off as a protest in Boston Harbor. But you have the right to defend it.

No, no, no, hold on, hold on. The American Revolutionary period was 20 years. It wasn't just a protest in Boston Harbor. There was a whole bunch of stuff going on. Yeah, yeah, I know. There was the Boston Massacre. People were being killed. Soldiers were barging into people's homes

and taking people's food and sleeping there. And then the founding fathers wrote sternly worded letters for years to the king being like yo please stop yeah you could argue that the british were the aggressors and that and the british were were stopping u.s vessels on the sea on uh on the high seas kidnapping people and forcing them into servitude of the crown so they were forced to fight you argue, but were they justified in their fight? And so then, even after that, the U.S. is like, okay, we're writing this letter to the king. I'm done with this.

And it's like, bro, they've been kidnapping people from boats, and you're writing a letter. It was pretty measured. But we got breaking news that I don't even know how to address. The Daily Wire has uploaded a video, our offer to Stephen Crowder, I guess officially confirming that Daily Wire is who Stephen Crowder was talking about. They put this up a couple minutes ago. It's 52 minutes long. We literally could not just play the video and watch it during the live show. But, I mean, it is what it is.

I mean, that's it is what it is. I mean, that's it. What did the comment say? Because that's usually how I get, you know, my news first. We'll play some of it. I don't know if I can just show YouTube comments. Well, we can play it for two minutes, maybe. Let's play it for a couple minutes. Let's launch a new initiative called...

Alright. Our friend Stephen Crowder has launched a new initiative called Stop Big Con. And in the video announcing the launch of the project, he talked about leaving the blaze and all the different offers that he filled in from other conservative organizations and what he thought were the real problems with those offers. That's led a lot of people to speculate about whether or not The Daily Wire is one of the people who made him an offer.

In particular, are we the ones who made the offer that he put up on the screen and talked about at length. And the answer is yes, that offer did come from the Daily Wire. I'm not trying to hide that fact. I'm not ashamed of that fact. In fact, I think it's a very good offer. But I think there's a lot of sort of misconceptions about the nature of the offer, the nature of the points. I think Stephen misunderstood a lot of the points. And so the way we do here at The Daily Wire, we're just going to be incredibly transparent, you know, that we like to have our members be a part of the journey. We live stream all of our

company town halls, for example. We just find that, you know, sunlight sometimes is the best disinfectant. And so with that in mind, I'm going to talk to you a little bit about how we came to be in conversations with Stephen, how those conversations ended, and walk you just line by line through what the actual document that we sent over. Well, so I'll skip ahead a little bit. We'll only watch a little bit, but I'll jump right to where we can see he's begun addressing the contract, and we'll look at a few of his points. You know, in order to properly address this breaking story, we have to have watched the hour-long video in advance, like with Crowder's video.

We don't have the luxury because we're live now and it's happening, but let's play a little bit and see what he says. Would. And so we anticipated that and we said, Crowder will bear the burden of production, including all costs associated therewith, on all the content contemplated herein, except on the quarterly and annual content contemplated below.

We'll get to that part a little bit later. It's kind of a novel concept. The quality of the production will be as good as or better than is currently existing content. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. $50 million for the initial term plus $25 million for the renewal term if extended. So that's $50 million over four years. So they were offering him $'s 12.5 million dollars per year i don't think it's enough guys because with inflation the amount of monetization steven

has potential you'd have to offer 11 three two to three times that i mean maybe not three times that maybe two times here my here's my you know third party statement to both steven crown the daily wire daily wire you didn't offer enough money maybe Maybe you couldn't afford to. Steven, if you launch your own company, you will make 10 times that. So I wonder if that's the issue. Like Steven looks at this and he's like, $50 million over four years is not worth it. Because you've got to understand,

that's got to pay his employees. If you could set- And staff and cost and overhead and insurance and lawyers and legal fees and lawsuits. A million bucks a month. Pre-tax. Bear the burden of production. It says right there.

Then there's taxes. And taxes. So he's getting $600,000 a month. Bear the cost of, well. He said theft. Well, no, no, no, no. It's not. It's not because if Crowder's production costs are $600,000 a month, then he's only profiting

$400,000 and then he's paying $150,000 in taxes. Right. Taxes are a wild thing, dude. So that was right there. I mean, that's kind of, there we go. We now know what the fee is. So the question is, man, four years, that's heavy.

What was in the total, like $200 million or something we said yesterday? What was the total we ended up talking about? I mean, hyperinflation, that's going to be nothing. You have to adjust this for inflation over the period in order for a contract like that the real inflation not the fake inflation government numbers that are actually full of crap look i know jeremy boring i think he's a good dude um we've talked about potential things we could work on and deals we could do

and um you know a lot of people were speculating back when we went and visited the daily wire in nashville we did that week-long thing. They were like, oh, Tim's going to sign with the Daily Wire. It's like, no, I don't think there was ever a possibility that we would be a Daily Wire thing. It was more like, I'll tell you guys straight up exactly what's going on. Every different way we distribute content is monetized in different ways through different partners. Some people specialize in ads only for podcasts. Some people specialize in ads only for podcasts. Some people specialize in ads only for YouTube.

And so, for instance, our podcast side of things, like iTunes, Spotify, I'm an expert in those spaces. I know YouTube much better. And so we have third parties that work with us. So I've talked to them like, hey, can you guys help us with this? Because we know we're not doing a good job. That's the kind of stuff we've talked about.

And being able to go to a company like the daily wire and literally talk with their CEO and have them just be very candid. And like the, I got to tell you, like of all the business meetings I've had, the easiest one was with the daily wire. Cause it ultimately ended like, okay, well, you know, maybe we can't work on this now, but we'll figure something out. We'll hang out sometime. Good hearing from you, man. I've worked with, the first contract I was ever offered was from, well, I'll leave them out of it. It was a big agency. It was one of the big talent agencies. They represent people you've heard of on Fox News.

And they give me like a 70-page book contract to read. And I'm looking, I'm like, and I'm like, this is a joke, right? And it's like, no, no, no, don't worry, it's standard. And I'm like, dude, you come to a guy who's like an up and comer in the space. It was a five-year contract. I know the game they were playing. It was going to lock up everything.

It was going to own me for five years and leave me with nothing. And I couldn't afford to hire a lawyer to read that many pages. So I threw it in the trash and said, have a nice day. Not interested in wasting my time. That is almost every negotiation with every company I've done. The Daily Wire was like, literally, I sat down with Jeremy and we talked about how we could do things. And I thought it went well. That being said, these contracts don't work. It says like right here, you can see right here, Crowder will deliver a 1.5 hour long

Latterworth Crowder audio show of a quality and the kind of blah, blah, blah, blah. They have to say that because they don't want to sign a deal with you and then have you drop the quality to save money. But then all of a sudden, if you're someone like Crowder and you're like, you want to own what? You want to own everything?

And they're like, I'm not going to give you $12 million per year without the right to distribute the content to make money on it. You just can't do these deals, man. Yeah, these are old archaic contracts that don't make sense. Ian made that point yesterday, and it was a very good point. My question is, how many eggs were the Daily Wire team going to be paying Crowder with? Is that in the contract as well? Because that's a commodity there that I think is an important one during these very difficult inflationary times.

Let me play a little bit more. Blaze, well, he would still do that same kind of concept. 30 minutes of the show would now be behind our paywall. Crowder can bank or pre-record a limited number of episodes upon our approval and reasonable discretion. Days without new original episodes will be scheduled in advance subject to our reasonable approval. What our approval and reasonable discretion, days without new original episodes

will be scheduled in advance subject to our reasonable approval. What's this about? Oh, I like Crowder, you know, in addition to his four weeks. I think, I think,

I think The Daily Wire should just publish a link to the contract. Yeah. For sure. Because he's already shown and he's going through a whole bunch of stuff.

And I think Crowder opened the door. When Crowder showed that portion, he actually said, you you know don't make me bring the receipts right so the daily wire responds with okay let's go through some of the contract at this point i'm like okay dude just like publish it yeah what are your because like the fee being released is huge um here's what here's what i think i think steven crowder man man, here's the challenge. Joe Rogan's deal, what did it turn out to be? It was initially reported as $100 million, and then it was revealed later $200 million.

We don't know how many years that's over or what it does include. Is it stock or things like that? I think, I don't know for sure. Or is it the old episodes too, or is it the entire podcast? Is it the first episode to the last episode? I think it did include old episodes. That's a lot. Yeah, it got them off. podcast is it the first episode to the last episode old episodes yep that's a lot yeah it got him off the prime like joe rogan had the number one spot on itunes the premier podcast

platform and he sold that that makes sense you know spotify says look we're gonna give you 200 million dollars over x years i don't know how many years it was i'd imagine it wasn't four but it could have been and so you imagine joe's then getting 50 million bucks a year for his show that's the crazy thing steven crowder's show is he's not joe rogan but i mean come on like 12.5 per year 50 million over four years he's he's not a quarter of joe rogan he's half or more and considering what we're talking about arguably comparable joe rogan reaches a certain kind of audience and he's huge we get it but steven crowder motivates people more i'd be willing to bet that a crowder ad read will sell 10 times more than a rogan ad read no no no offense to rogan but crowder is a culture warrior crowder's a culture warrior you know when he goes out and he says guys you gotta get this thing

because these are the companies that believe in us, people are going to be like, yes. When Joe Rogan says, I shave my balls, here's the thing I use, some people are going to be like, that's cool. I like on it. I like on it. Or his fleshlight that he was supporting. Looking at it from Daily Wire's perspective, they're putting $50 million down. They want to make profit on this, too. So they're anticipating, yes, it's worth at least 50 million and then probably at least 50%

on top of that. And that's where ballparking, I agree with you. I think being independent in this space is the best way to do it. I think it's the best environment for a true creative. I think it's the best upside on the profitability. And there's so many business opportunities being created in this sector, which is relatively new, really has just blossomed in the last two to three years. So Crowder might be looking at, okay, what am I looking at the next two or three years? But he's going to be doing this for 30, 40 years, potentially, if he wants to. Here's the thing about any of these deals. A couple of years ago, we had one of the big networks come to us and say, let's do a deal.

And we were relatively smaller, but we haven't grown that much like we've grown a lot but you know in terms of revenue and stuff we're as a company we're doing a lot better but they basically all say like we'll own it everything you do we own and i'm just like not interested because i'm gonna do a three-year deal with you right that's what you're asking you're at you're coming to me saying three years at the the end of it, you walk away. You keep your brand. You keep your name. We keep everything else.

I'm not interested in doing that. I already have my own channels. I already have my own brand. I already have a membership platform. Why would I just give that to you in exchange for what? Comparable amounts of money? That's the stupidest thing ever. As you said, Rogan, it's like a new entertainment environment.

It's a new business model opportunity. So many different ways to make money in this space. And now the parasites have come out as well. And I'm not calling anyone particular. I'm just saying the parasitic nature of business has aroused. It happened in 2006. I was doing internet YouTube videos.

And once I got like 10,000, no, no, once I started getting like 1,000, 1,500 views per video, I started getting emails and messages. Hey, we can take your channel to the next level. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, I want to make some money off you. Hey, say this thing I want you to say. And they're like, let me...

That's the end of it. I want to play this clip. I think he talks about the fee here. This is the most important part. Now, here's this section that I know Steven was very offended by. And I think he misunderstood and therefore misrepresented. Fee reductions. There's a different fee reduction for all those kinds of contents we created. Daily content. If he fails for any reason to deliver 192 episodes of the daily show, or if he fails to include the ads that we agreed to or the promotions that we agreed to in those episodes, then we'll give a $100,000 reduction every time. What's that about?

Well, again, you can't pay someone any amount of money, but you certainly can't pay them an unimaginably huge amount of money for their show and then not get the show. So what this is saying is you don't have to produce a show every day. You don't have to produce 260 or 250 or 240 or 230 or 220 or 210 episodes a year. You got to produce 192 episodes a year. You can film some of them in advance. You can stack them up. All of that's contemplated in there.

You can shoot on a Friday so that you can take two days off next week. But if you don't give us 192 episodes, we can't pay you the same amount of money as if you did give us. Now, hold on there a minute. If it's 12.5 per year with 192 episodes, that's $65,000 per episode, not 100. And so the fee is bigger than the revenue, which is a weird payment structure.

So that seems kind of punishing. You would typically want to do a payment structure that's more affirmative, like, hey, after every 10 episodes, we will pay you blank. So you kind of truncate it into smaller. It sounds like they're doing just a big advance up front. Right. If you're doing a guarantee of X per year, I understand what the Daily Wire is trying to do. But I will push back and say what the contract should say and they could be doing the big ask it could be a trump move

where they don't want crowder to negotiate a net benefit they want to break even so they say 100k expecting crowder to come back and say no no no pro rate divided by the fee for the year so it should say in my opinion this is how I do the counting, I'd say, what are we paying you, 12.5 a year, 192 episodes? Okay, any episode you miss,

we deduct one unit division into that fee. So whatever that breaks down to, $65,000. You miss an episode or you miss an ad read, we will remove 65 from your guarantee. Basically, we are buying 192 episodes for 12.5 per year.

If you don't deliver one, we prorate you. But the argument is, it's the library itself is worth more than the sum of the parts. So the one show by itself, then you have 20 shows, they're worth more than 1 20th each because they create, you know,

so I can see why they upped the fee. We'll leteremy continue because i don't want to cut him off if he's going to make important context to part of the conversation 192 episodes so this is just yeah you give us 192 uh times four minus one then out of your 50 million we're hitting minus 100 000 steven said he said 192 times four minus one then we're taking 100,000 150 million yeah yeah look man that doesn't add up yeah 150 million 192 it's going to be 65 104 yeah because you know basically what it breaks down to so that doesn't quite quite add up um that being said the daily wire offering a steep fee as a means to say like don't drop shows i also understand they don't want to do a deal with make a guarantee and then one day crowder says well you

know i don't lose anything if i back out on this deal right if if if he and i do a deal and then ian's relying on me to make a profit and there's no penalty other than I don't get paid for the day, but Ian gets screwed over. Well, that's going to suck. So again, I think it may be reasonable to say something like 70,000. So you will get a 5,000 hit on your overall minimum because we don't want to create an opportunity for you to just be like, I guess I'm not going to do a show today because I don't feel like it. You know what I mean? You know what i think they're factoring into that is their costs for their production and their licensing and distribution is at 100 so 65 it's for crowder 35 is probably what they estimate that's actually a really good point that's actually really fair point uh in order

to distribute and make money off of what they're buying from crowder they're going to have their own crew doing all of this stuff as well. Editing. Right. And that means if they've got 300 employees and they've got 10 allocated to proper promotion distribution, making clips, uploading to the website, monitoring for bugs, doing the backend stuff because they're a lot bigger, maybe 100 does make sense. I mean, I certainly think you factor that in and you factor their loss of profits in. So they're basically saying, we're paying you 65. We're also going to lose 10 because we can't do our sales. Our employees showed up to work.

Our employees showed up. Also, the people who bought the ads are going to come to us angry. So that's actually an interesting point. Fair point. I don't think we can go through this whole thing, though. So I don't know if there's any other, I'm going to do it later. You know what? I, I, I'm very curious to see what Crowder says, if there's anything else, but to me, this just seems like business, tough business. Uh, it's a lot of money. There's, there's high stakes and people want to make sure that their investments are protected. So I'm not

necessarily anti daily wire on this, but, um, I, I am. So I'm not necessarily anti-Daily Wire on this, but I'm sure there's just a 50-minute video. Crowder's got his whole experience going through this. So there's a lot more to this, I'm sure. This is actually really awesome that there's transparency. It's incredible. This is so good for the business environment. I mean, here's a challenge for the Daily Wire.

A lot of people are saying, like, you should have said anything. He didn't mention you. Bro, everybody was saying challenge for the Daily Wire. A lot of people are saying, like, you should have said anything. He didn't mention you. Bro, everybody was saying it was the Daily Wire. Yeah. And then now the Daily Wire has no opportunity to explain. No, they basically have no choice. And hey, it's good promotion. But Crowder was talking about how not necessarily these figures,

wasn't it that they were, like, partnering with the bad guys or something? Well, his complaint was that, let me see if I can actually find the part where he'll talk about it, I imagine. He said the big con and that they're working with big tech solutions. Here we go. He said something like that.

Look, if Crowder is boycotted. If Crowder is boycotted or dropped by more than 50% of his then extant advertising partners, that is, if 50% of the money that he's making from advertisers is suddenly gone, and we're not able to replace that revenue within 90 days, then his fee will be reduced by 25% until such time as the ad revenue has been restored for a period of time. Whoa! That is giving Crowder free money.

That's insane. Think about that for two seconds. If Crowder's revenue is dropped by 50% from his advertising partners, plural, wait, hold on. If he's dropped by more than 50% of his then advertising partners, they will reduce his fee by only 25? Which is what, $250,000 a year-ish? Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Well, potentially. So it's potentially only 25, which is what, $250,000 a year-ish? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Well, potentially. So it's potentially advertising insurance, it sounds like, but 50% of his revenue may not necessarily equate to his fee. So the 25. Right. Is he making more than $250,000 a year in ad revenue? What's his ad revenue compared to the fee? You know, 25% of 50 million.

I see. So it could be they don't include membership partners, but they're also giving him 90 days. Meaning if something happens. That's a nice grace period. Three months to figure it out. That means Crowder could be making half the revenue for three months and they still won't charge him a fee or a penalty.

What I don't like from Steve's perspective is it makes him rely on advertisers still, which is I think he's trying to get away from that, being reliant on advertisers. And if his contract forces him. If I was going to do a deal with someone, I would say, if your content gets boycotted, your fee will be reduced commensurate

to the amount of money lost from those boycotts. Like, and that's the crazy thing. We share the risk. Well, or yeah, I mean, we can give you a guarantee but if there's no money coming in like there's no guarantee there's no money to guarantee you that is to me like a little bit of a float daily wire you know they're they're almost a creditor in that instance i that that that came off as like a surprisingly gracious i didn't expect here we go here's the important part i didn't expect the daily wire to offer something like that to be

honest it's money or not and then we lose the business as a result and now no one pays steven Here we go. Here's the important part. I didn't expect the Daily Wire to offer something like that, to be honest. Here's the big tech part. We're not. And then we lose the business as a result. And now no one pays Steven anything. And no one releases Steven's content. He has to go build it all from scratch in crisis. Ban. The Crowder content cannot be released on any of the major platforms

because of his content being banned from those platforms. Then we'll reduce the fee if YouTube 20, if Apple 20, if Facebook 10, if Spotify 10. Same kind of concept. If the content simply cannot appear and therefore cannot not only be used for marketing, cannot be used to grow the brand, also can't be monetized,

well, we can't pay him the same as if it was. If you're making 25% of your money on YouTube and now YouTube is permanently gone, you can't make that money anymore. It's not punishment. This is really what it comes down to. You can pay them, Jeremy. Philosophy seems to be. You just would run it at a loss if you did. You can, though. I deserve to be paid millions and millions and millions of dollars, whether my show drives the revenue or not. I got to pause right there and say jeremy yeah that's the point

the reason stephen crowder wants to do a deal with you is so that you assume the risk and he doesn't the the only and this is why i'm saying these contracts don't make sense because what jeremy is saying makes sense from jeremy's perspective but it doesn't make sense from the perspective of anybody who wants to do a deal it's it would be like it would be like someone saying you know luke i'm gonna buy your rv off you and then if it breaks you i'm not giving you the money like well well hold on they always break it's my vehicle put in the contract crowd is basically saying like i don't want to worry about this i don't want to worry about the risk the revenue you figure it out and then jeremy says okay but if it breaks we're not going to pay you i mean i think that's reasonable if you buy it or you don't if steven is wants to offload the risk then he's offloading

a huge chunk of the income i mean that's the risk is a big part of why he's worth so much is because it's on his shoulders the deal can't exist this is this is what i was saying like when i said crowder was right about everything with these contracts like and and i like the daily wear guys i think jeremy is a good dude and i think jeremy is doing right as a business but it doesn't make sense for crowder to sell what he has to basically hear you're in the exact same position we don't assume the same level of risk like you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna face the same position. We don't assume the same level of risk. Like, you're going to face the same risks. If you get a strike, you don't get paid.

I do think there's some guarantees. Like, I'll point this out. If he gets banned by YouTube, they only dock his fee by 20%. That's actually, I mean, that structure right there, I think is actually really great. That is, the daily wire is doing some good things youtube is a larger portion of revenue and viewership so when it comes to direct

sponsorships you'll make more of a youtube read than a than a podcast read to a certain extent but podcasts in the long run will make more money it's it's it's it's hard to explain like you get more views on youtube so you can sell a package for more equal to the number of views though the cpms are lower so for them to break it down this way actually seems like there there is some stuff being taken off crowder's shoulder in terms of uh i wonder what his angle is when he says you know they're basically partnering with big tech to take – This is it. Yeah.

He gets penalized if he breaks YouTube's rules. But is he thinking that Daily Wire is going to sabotage him so that they just are able to pay Crowder less? He seemed very angry about it. I'm just wondering what – to me, this doesn't strike me as this is them partnering up with Big Tech to take down Crowd. He was kind of alluding to that. We definitely need more clarification for it because let's be honest here, The Daily Wire and

Ben Shapiro do get suggested a lot on Facebook. If you look at the most shared links from Facebook, it's usually The Daily Wire. And a lot of people are asking, that's kind of weird. That's kind of what's going on here. And a lot of people are asking, that's kind of weird. That's kind of what's going on here. And then we have these statements by Crowder.

So there's obviously a lot more questions here. Zuckerberg's a huge conservative, turns out. I don't know. I have far more questions than answers. This stuff, working in Hollywood contracts, there's no market standard, especially in this burgeoning industry. So it's really fascinating to see a little bit of the inside information because now you can say, all right, I'm this X percent compared to Crowder. It gives you a chance to – but people are making this up as we go.

What is a market standard for a contract? It's all black box in Hollywood. Dude, I know everybody – there's a lot of people commenting in the on that video saying i stand with stephen crowder and uh i just feel so bad for the daily wire because they're not bad people and they're trying really hard they're not this like the hardest of culture warriors like we or crowder are but i don't think they're bad guys who are doing bad things i think cand Candace is hard culture, culture warrior. Like you and Crowder.

That's true. That's a fair point. But Jeremy's, he's all, I mean, he's not all business. Matt Walsh. But he's in the business. And Matt's a warrior. I mean, and what is a woman was extremely important. That was a tremendously powerful and very important thing.

But when you say daily wire, you got to talk about who owns daily wire. It's, it's Jeremy, Ben, you know, and Jeremy's in the business aspect. He's not a culture warrior. But I want to clarify when I said I feel bad for him i don't feel bad necessarily about this like dude you offer a big name a contract that pisses them off don't be surprised if they come and they get mad at you about it and they can wag around and be like this is a terrible contract i feel bad because how do you compete with the likes of disney how do you do it yeah it's like disney will get people to sign up no matter what because they own flubber because they own decades of american cultural history and the daily wire

has got to build it and it's probably just 10 times harder than managing disney i mean look at look at what they're doing with all the marvel stuff regurgitated remakes etc etc and the daily wire has to navigate this space and you want what the worst possible thing is what made what was the big hit for the daily wire yeah what is a woman that matt walsh documentary and what about gina carano's film i didn't see her on the prairie yeah so the issue is the daily wire is trying to break the cultural mold, take the space, and to an extent, it's working. I mean, they have a million paying monthly members,

so they're building it up. They're, what, 20 times smaller than Netflix is. But did we hear about how tremendously amazing Terror on the Prairie was? Did we see groundbreaking virality? No, but what does a woman did? The problem is, what does a woman is political. That means The Daily Wire is still trapped

in their pigeonhole. And if they're going to have the cultural impact that we actually need them to have, they need to get bigger hits in different areas that are very, very difficult to do. They need their own Mickey Mouse. I will say just looking at that contract, assuming that's the primary contract,

that's a very simple, like simplified contract. They get far more verbose, far more carve-outs and exceptions and preconditions. So again, I'm not taking a side on this because I don't have enough information. I am definitely very curious to hear what Crowder's perspective is though. Someone super chatted, remember Crowder is bringing in 300,000 subs at $10 a month. That's $36 million a year. Crowder, let me see. Sorry, I had to scroll. Crowder wants band protection and is wanting a distribution partner.

I agree. I don't know that we can guarantee Crowder will bring in 300,000. I think it's possible, but more than that, I think from a contract perspective, if someone came to me and said, look, you do it, you know, if Ian came to me and said, bring me on the show and i guarantee you 10 000 new paying monthly members i'd be like you can't guarantee me that like i can look at your metrics and then make and then

make a bet and if i'm wrong i lose a lot of money i don't know if i'd want to do that yeah there would have to be some cash incentive if i was going to guarantee a subscriber but something i also do think from a practical standpoint, Steven Crowder likely will bring in 300,000 to 500,000 new paying monthly members at $10 a month, in which case, yeah, this contract's not good. You made an interesting observation that he might be concerned that with the 20% if he gets banned off YouTube, 20% if he gets banned off, that if Daily Wire is in charge of the edit and the post, that they could put something up that would put him in a light that would get him banned and then

be able to cut his salary by 20%. He's very nervous about their affiliation with big tech. And that, to me, has not been addressed in this. We saw the provision, but to me, it doesn't really... Where's Crowder getting... He was very upset, very nervous about... I don't see it yet. I don't know what he's focused on.

Crowder needs to do his own thing because like I said the other day, I think Crowder would make 10 million bucks a month. People are saying 36 million a year. I disagree. Based on how big Crowder is, based on what he was able to do

with Rumble with the midterms, he had like seven or eight times the amount of viewers we had. Like I think we ended up with, I don't remember how many, 60, 70,000. He had 500,000. On Rumble.

On Rumble. Special shout out to Dave Landau, that lovable little, lovable little garden gnome. I love you, brother. I love you, man. He's so awesome, dude. I think Crowder should launch

his independent mug club and uh 10 bucks a month honestly it might need to be a little bit more than that because of because of costs these days like no seriously like bandwidth costs especially if you're gonna do anything live but 10 bucks a month probably probably would work i think you'd probably get between 300 500k probably you'd be making five million a month with no ads yeah none just off serves yeah yeah back end hosting is expensive these are the numbers that the contract should be working out we're going to cover hosting like we mentioned that last night like do tech contracts with these with these actors these performers so that you cover their back end expenditure and cost i i i i'm i'm doing the math in my head right now i think 300k is a good

estimate it's a good it's a good estimate so what needs to happen in this contract is crowder should probably say here's what here's what i would do i go through all of it and i would say oh you want all these things my answer to you is yes and we're going to add one paragraph i get 80 of memberships and then they're going to go oh well, well, I don't know about that. And I'll be like, okay, here's what I'll do. I'll take 100% of my memberships and I'll make my own website. Thanks for your time.

Yeah, right. Which I don't know why he doesn't just do that. I mean, they have a massive distribution platform. Well, it's because he's also been demonetized on YouTube for like how many years now? Off and on for, I don't know. Here's what I can say. His entire career, I don't know, three years.

If I know this to be true that if we did some kind of partnership with the daily wire this show would be 10 times bigger in half the time we would have like their their their the daily wires i think 20 times bigger than we are they have people all over the place they have more fans than we do they have more connections more celebrities who visit their offices they have their own talent roster if i did do a deal with them in any capacity and they were able to be like here we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna change your show it would just like bigger studio built by a more professional company faster oh they got those swinging cameras that come through right like we're we're a company here at timcast and we are every day trying to learn and and navigate and and forge this path forward meaning like oh man we had we have hiccups all day every day and it's just like constant

headaches and i talked to jeremy periodically and then he's like he's like well my friend just just know that always gets worse and i'm laughing i'm like he's right because i'm like you know we're we're working on a project right now with the Daily Wire crew, a music project. I don't want to say too much about it. We're really excited. And so I've been talking to him and then, you know, I'll mention like,

oh, we had this problem with this financial thing. And then he laughs. He's like, I remember we had that. Yeah, not 20 times worse. And so I'm just like, if we were able to get a company like them to like just even consult, it would be huge. If we were able to have their resources in them to just even consult, it would be huge. If we were able to have their resources in terms of booking, it would be massive.

We would have bigger celebrities, bigger names, bigger connections. Yeah, in no time. But look, we're our own company. We do our own thing. And it's impossible to just – you can't just make something like that happen. Same thing is true with Crowder. Why would Crowder do a deal with Daily Wire? It's like you were saying,

their production resources, distribution, and access is so massive that it would substantially benefit Crowder. However, as for who Crowder is, he doesn't need them. He can make his own website. It will just be harder. It will take longer, but he will make substantially more money.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Even Rush Limbaugh worked for another company what company salem media i believe the whole his whole career uh at least at the end i believe i'm just jumping on that but like i mean candace owens one of the biggest names and you know she's generally worked with prager and and turning point and now daily wire i mean it's just it's just different business paths and it's just it, it, how, how your lifestyle meshes with that, how your, you know, kind of vision and your creativity. I personally, I can't work for anyone. I would rather take less money and just, if I'm not going to work that day,

I'm not going to work that day, you know, like that's on me. But if someone's telling me, Hey, you got to do this, you got to fuck, I can't do it at this point. yeah i'm the same way like why take orders from somebody it just doesn't make sense i've been through that at this stage i'm working at for tim the timcast corporation and it's like it's a little emasculating at times like i'm like damn i can't just promote i can't just publish a new show like it's owned by timcast corporation which is reasonable i think because i'm work i'm getting paid by timcast corporation and i can always end the contract you know but like i think there's a time place because the social capital that i'm gaining outweighs the value of anything

i could do on my own at this stage of my career but but ian that's technically not true it's it's true in the sense that anybody who works for timcast has an agreement that anything you make related to our business, we own. That means, what do we do here? We do political commentary. We do YouTube videos. We do social media posts. We make music.

We're making video games now. And you recognize that we're doing all of this multimedia stuff. However, it also states that at any point you want to do something, you need only tell us. That's it. True. Yeah, yeah. That's in the contract also. that at any point you want to do something you need only tell us that's it true yeah yeah that's in the that's in contract also so like the point is we can't have people work here who are going

to be like i'm going to make music for you and then we go awesome and then they come out with an album it goes up a platinum or whatever and they're like well i made that at home i think because of that we'll do we hired you to make that standard hollywood procedure yeah it deals with major studios like i can't say them but uh they basically have first look they own any movie you make subsequent to if you're like the if you're a first-time director for a major studio they own your ass because like we kind of brought you up on the map and i'm not saying that but like uh and but you know i will say about jeremy boring and ben shapiro they don't work for anyone you know they started that company and just built it up I think you guys are outside looking in you guys are crushing it but so so first look is a

good way to put it the way I describe it everybody is everybody has to have an agreement that if you're working here you're working for us however I don't want to own your music man I don't want to own your book because of our contracts with other companies you just have to come to us and be like I'm gonna write this book it's nothing to do with you it's me i'll be like okay yeah all right i'll write up a contract saying we have no rights over the book that produced by russell and this you're good but there's something in the back of the of my artist mind where it's just knowing that i have a contract signed that is owns my work and that until i override it is there it's like it's messes with me but i have to weigh the value like the value of to be honest i

would do this show for free anyway like i'm you know i've even talked with you about like i don't need the money i'm not here for the money i don't care about the social capital far outweighs the dollars in my opinion um so i'm i'm constantly doing the weight of like is it worth being under contract decision you know what's best for your life and what you want to do i i i remember think when i was younger i was like oh you know i'm gonna start for your life and what you want to do. I remember thinking when I was younger, I was like, oh, you know, I'm going to start a business and I'm going to scale it up and then it's going to be a multi, whatever. I don't even want to do that. You know, quality of life. I don't think of how many had it, you know, do you really just want to be consumed by your

business all day, every day? I actually want some time to hang out with my wife and, you know, future kids. So it's also like, I don't want to compete with you. Like me and Tim both make cartoon, like we were funny act, we do acting and all day every day i don't want to compete with you my voice like me and tim both make cartoon like we were funny act we do acting and stuff like i don't want to compete i'd rather work together i don't want to compete with jeremy i don't want to compete with steve crowder i want to work you know unify and kind of create art together like we don't have any kind of contract anywhere near the level of what the what the daily wire is offering like that massive lighting out terms or like whatever like we don't have anything over x amount there's no time period on the contract there's literally nothing in any agreement anywhere that's like ian if you get us

banned we're gonna dock your pay it's like no i just pay you anyway you know like get mad about it i suppose but also it's like there's no uh no time commitment which is ultimate in this rapidly changing entertainment structured environment, putting someone on a three-year freaking leash is insane, in my opinion. Well, there's a reason for that, and it's what we were talking about the other day, right? So we have no no-term contracts with anybody who works here, and that's a huge risk on our end. I joke to everybody, I'm a communist, so it's like, if we invest in you as a personality and then you quit on us, we've just lost all of our investment, you know?

And that's why nobody wants to do that deal. That's a reasonable position though. That's again, that's standard in Hollywood. That's like the computer. We don't have a term for anybody. Ian could leave the show whenever he wants to make his own thing. That's like the-

He could get up and walk out right now. That's quite generous. The robot brain is, if i were to lock you in then i will benefit in the future but the reality is i love you more as a human for respecting me and my freedom and in the i would gladly hang out with you i'll tell you i think i'm better at business than all these people if you don't want to be here you should not be here and i do not want to keep sinking money into a person who's trying to leave now that's wasted money so all these

big companies they're like look if I'm going to invest 10 million dollars in you I need to know that I can monetize that for 4 years

or whatever make money off it my attitude is hey look I'm going to invest a couple hundred grand into you and the stuff

you're building and if at any point you don't want to be here it's probably better you just leave because I don't want to waste any more money like if you don't

want to be here what so like what am i supposed to do with that you're going to be unhappy i think it's a better structure overall like again hollywood it's cold and dehumanized because it's just a massive mega publicly traded corporation dealing with a bunch of creative idiots very successful people sometimes but i mean yeah you when you have a more like a family owned business, you don't need this super restrictive contract. You have leadership, you have friendship, you have, you know, you can do things on a handshake.

A contract is just in case the worst happens. You should be able to just work things out. Do you think that someone chatted, Tim wants volunteers, not hostages? Yes. I worked for Fusion and they had me under contract. Then they went woke and I said, I'd like to leave. And they said, no, here's more money.

And I said, this sucks. Do you think that it's because it doesn't scale like these kind of these family run smaller contracts? They're like, I trust you. Let's work together. They don't scale because the owner loses contact with the new hires because there's so many employees. Yes. I mean, obviously, as you get bigger, you're going to lose that more personalized connection Because the owner loses contact with the new hires just because there's so many employees? Yes.

I mean, obviously, as you get bigger, you're going to lose that more personalized connection with your employees. And, you know, so again, there's no one right way to do this in any way, shape, or form. Any of these powerful voices, you guys, anyone else, it's do what you think feels right. And I think what it ultimately comes down to what we're all doing this for is to help save this country and save this planet from tyranny yeah and and this stuff is all kind of on the side yeah straight up man all right let's go we're gonna go super jets we're gonna go super chat so smash that like button subscribe to the channel share the show with your friends become a member at timcast.com we're gonna have that members only

uncensored show coming up for you and we got a bunch of really crazy stuff to talk about uh we we do i just put it that way i don't know because it's like been built it's been building up because i haven't been able to do my morning show and uh technically i shouldn't even be doing this show but i'm not going to cancel on people just because like my voice is fucked that was the thing is like if you cancel your day shows and just do this show then you we won't ever have to look for news because you already have it and you'll be chomping at the bit to talk about it anyway well so it's like i probably should not do anything and just sleep because i don't know what was wrong with my voice to be really honest uh you know for sure dehydration maybe too much salt i may be but

i've been doing everything people like gargle honey and it's like And it's like, come on, man. Fasting? Everything. Fasting will help. Yeah, it didn't work. Like 12 hours of no food. Yep, it did it. Really? Maybe you have to do it three days in a row. I think it's just something that happens.

Yeah, it could just be overused or just speaking for a while. Eventually, it's going to just. And then instead of taking the day off, I end up doing the show. Yeah, right. You went hard last night. But to be fair, I'm raspy, but it's nowhere near as bad as it was on Friday. So I'm assuming i'll be able to work tomorrow it's better we'll read some super chats and you know thank you guys

for being members at timcast.com because it's basically afforded me the ability to take the mornings off which is extremely like i get really angry because like i come in here i do all the work and then i start doing warm-ups exercises i took ibuprofen because it reduces swelling to help you talk and i recorded again for four minutes and i was complaining about greta thunberg and then i just was like pushing harder and harder to get i'm done and i got pissed but if we didn't have the website i'd be freaking out because i'd be like how do i pay people the memberships are life man i bet a lot of people are thinking that way what if what if youtube turns on me what if i don't follow their rules my entire career but like my concern is if we didn't have the website memberships it'd be more like if i don't do

this work today how do i pay the salaries of the people who are working here that's that's the that's the problem yeah but the website you guys as members like you know you give me a sick day let's read some news all right what does it say uh cd stein says hey tim breaking news a prison in hillsborough illinois has had at least 15 guards taken to hospitals in serious condition due to fentanyl exposure whoa wow man lord spade says bank bail bail-ins bail-ins are starting the fdic was having a talk about this recently oh i looked up the uh the bank of america crisis it looks like it was something went wrong with a glitch with zell which is the transfer service that a bunch of these banks own zell is weird it's almost like antitrust in a way

because all it's like bank of america wells fargo chase bank all these banks own this this thing together and they all transfer money on this thing i've've always wondered about this. It's very, very odd. PNC Bank also, JPMorgan Chase, Capital One, Truist. Capital One, yeah, it's weird. It's a weird, weird, weird thing. It's owned by Early Warning Services the company that owns Zelle and Early Warning Services is owned by all those banks. Right. Isn't that odd? Waffle Sensei

says, if Luke really loved us, he would stay but he doesn't, so he's leaving. I hate you. I say we all go and buy out his t-shirt inventory so he completely runs out of stock. Show him how mad we are. Please don't do that. Please don't go to thebestpoliticalshirts.com and buy all the shirts up.

I will have no other shirts. I'll go shirtless. We got to get Shim Sham back. Did you say you'll go shirtless? If that's a promise. I need everybody to tweet at Seamus Coghlan on Twitter. Seamus, get over here. It's time.

Who's that guy? Who is he? The potato guy. Oh. Slamus. Okay. We should, when Seamus comes back, we should get like a really massive baked potato

and put like candles in it and like hand it to him. I made a special potato shirt for him for members of Luke Uncensored. Do you guys want to find some super chats and read it so I don't have to talk as much? Yeah. I'm tweeting at Seamus right now. Anyone that wants to retweet my tweet to Seamus,

please do it. Yeah, but I can't see them from here, so let me do it from here. Luke, you want to grab one? I'm looking right now. I got one right now. From Josh O. The UK just recently arrested a Christian

for praying silently. Thought crimes are now real. I saw that. It wasn't for silent prayer. It was for like loitering or something, but they were silently praying. She was standing in front of an abortion clinic or something? Yeah, and she'd been there day after day, and I think they were like, you can't stand on the road anymore.

It's loitering. I don't know. Interesting. Gabriel Lopes has a $50 super chat saying, your voice will not return to normal. It's how Alex Jones got his along the years. Yep, yep. No, I can feel it. You've got to give us a war cry, then you could really have it for a while.

I'm not going near a war cry. This is a super chat from NotThatGuy. Ian, you don't own art, brother man. Let's make something cool. Yeah, you don't, art, brother man. Let's make something cool. Yeah, you don't, Ian. True. That's why, Joy, that's what big ethos at Minds,

that's the whole point of the company is don't be too concerned about people claiming your work. Your work, you think it's yours, it's just there. You made it, just let it be. Create a comment. Serge, you have the super chats

from the very beginning, so you gotta be the one. There's a really funny one from PirateTaurusSockenhoff. It says, it's called puberty, Tim. Your body is changing, son. You'll notice along with a deeper voice, your beard should start filling in. Finally.

Did something drop down there, Tim? Two somethings. Oh, man, that's funny. All right, I got one from LordClamino. This says, you guys are missing things Crowder said. It's the fact these conditions force people to abide by big tech's biased rules they often enforce arbitrarily that don't encourage one to actually speak the truth but the opposite. And I agree in that I think that you're referring to that if he gets banned off YouTube, then he loses money from his contract so they're kind of forcing him to abide by youtube's rules to uh which would happen if he was independent anyway you know if he was independent he lost youtube money so they're

kind of saying well you know we're not youtube insurance necessarily and they might be youtube insurance to an extent depending on how much revenue comes in from youtube and they only dock them 20 i mean there is probably some give and take there. But, again, we still need to know more information. I got another one that Tim's highlighted for me from Linda T. Saying, Tim, I'm a stay-at-home mom of two kids. Limited money, but I remember because I like that you were fighting the culture war and I stand behind you, as do I. Thank you.

Thank you. I really do appreciate it yeah i mean you know it's really hard as like i understand why the daily wire does what they do being the people running the machine gives you affords you the ability to fight the culture war directly me being the host of the principal show and trying to run the machine is like damn near impossible it's a hard job not everyone has it in them to do that. So yeah, but Trump has a $20 super chat saying, how many people pay for Crowder

that don't already pay for Daily Wire? How many new members would they really get? I doubt it's 300K. It's a good point. Yeah. There's a lot of crossover there. They're both like statists. Everyone's a statist to you because it's relative.

They're semi-communists, both of them, everyone's a statist to you because it's relative you know they're like you know they're semi-communists both of them let's be real do we make like the moderate libertarian network thing moderate libertarian that doesn't go together it doesn't make sense yes it does you gotta get super chaff anti-statist alliance here's a good one this is from the yeti 90 oh do you want to no i was gonna say it's it's a network for people who aren't outright anarchists but are lean more in that direction than conservatives or liberals do you know what i mean so like you'll get your libertarians you dave smiths but you'll get some conservatives who are like pro 2a we got another five dollar super chat by vegas 96 he says dc drano probably had the best Twitter account. Top five, in my opinion. You're big on Twitter.

Hell yeah. You got it back. I got it back. I've been rage tweeting all day, every day. It's my favorite thing to do. And as my lawyer said, it's no surprise you were ever banned in the first place. Did you just get it back? Like four weeks ago.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I've been going, you know, on a tear. And like I said, the thing I'm most proud of is our case that's in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals right now. We had our hearing. Like I said, I'm represented by Harmeet Dhillon, who I think is the best civil rights attorney in modern history. And, you know, any day I could wake up and we're going to get that decision. And we're almost certainly going to be appealing to the Supreme Court. And the reason this case is,

I believe, historic is because it's the government that is coordinating with big tech to censor us. I think it's happening across the entire spectrum. I mean, think of all the Twitter files we've seen. Now imagine YouTube, Facebook, Instagram. So I think we've just hit the tip of the iceberg, and I have a lot of friends in Congress, and there's going to be a lot of subpoenas going out where I think the Twitter files are just the tip of the iceberg. We're going to learn a lot more. St. Matthew has a $20 super chat saying,

since we are discussing Ian's contract, how much of his compensation is graphene and psychedelic mushrooms? All of it, actually. That little jar right there was all it took. Ian signed a 20-year contract for that little vial. It was worth it. And I'll sign it again. Here's a good one from TheYeti90. He says, I want a shirt that says,

quote, Luke, help me stop smoking. I'm going to keep sending this until it gets read. Did I help you quit smoking? If I did, I'm very happy because that's something I was dealing with myself previously before a couple of years ago. And that's a big thing. That's if, you know, not a lot of people get to overcome it. So if you really did quit,

shout out to you and congratulations for living an addiction-free life and not being controlled by any statist substance that you are giving the money to the government through. So maybe make a t-shirt that says, Luke, help me stop smoking. Or get rid of the cigarette tax. One way to quit smoking. Actually, if you remind yourself, quit smoking.

One thing that really made me quit smoking is understand how much taxes went into the government with me smoking. I was like, what? They're getting how much? I can't do this. And that was one reason that I just decided to quit. Two, it's just, I don't know. It just feels better just to be able to breathe

and not be dependent on something that I was convinced that I needed when I really didn't. Epic. I went through the same thing with marijuana. I thought I couldn't be sociable without it. I was, in like 2007, I thought, oh, this is making me likable.

And that just set me on a downward spiral. It was me that was likable. That was in like 2007. I thought, oh, this is making me likable. And that just sent me on a downward spiral. It was me that was likable. That stuff was just there. So, Serge, I'm only able to see the recent superchats. Can you go into the back and get the earlier ones? I got another one here by John McGee saying, Breaking. New Zealand Prime Minister Jakinda Ardern announced resignation.

Good. Absolutely. That's the news that was breaking during this podcast. And she was an awful leader that implemented a lot of the World Economic Forum policies and essentially destroyed any form of freedom and liberty in New Zealand. And she was facing a lot of people opposing her. And her popularity went down because of just how absolutely horrible she was to her people so good good riddance in my opinion search yeah i got one here from ian uh ask rogan about

how he saved my life by contacting 9-1-1 from another state went by casual libtard i believe yeah that that was in 2017 he was on a live stream and he had a seizure and uh he i think there's like 10 people watching and then a bunch of people were dming me like dude ian like he just he just dropped like what and i was like i don't know i've never met you know and and then i checked his live stream and it was still going and uh we couldn't and i was like and i posted on my page i was like yo does anyone know anything about ian and someone's like i think he like lives in this town and then we like looked it up and then we like sent cops to his house and he yeah so he ended up being okay but that's a very that's a blast from the past yeah man all right another one really fast luke what happened to your thumb man i was gonna ask you the same question earlier

uh they said this person fle Talks, as we know, noticed a bandage. You don't have to say if you're not comfortable if you don't want to. I was moving, and then there was broken glass, and I just put my hand into something. That's a boring story. I know. It's not fun.

I was trying to think of a cool one. Shout out Fleckas. Shout out Fleckas Talks. One of my best friends. Awesome guy. His thumb's just sore because he loaded 3,000 rounds of 9mm over the weekend. There you go.

That should have been a better one. I got another one by Semper Ives. This one's better. He says, Ian, you've been rolling more 20s than usual. Did you change up your routine, diet, or anything? Did you even lift with Luke, bro? Now, Semper, don't encourage him.

Number two, he has not been lifting has not been working out with me and has been declining my invites to do personal training with me correct uh i have been working out though i've been at least 20 push-ups every day if not 40 i haven't eclipsed 40 a day yet 20 push-ups a day yeah that's that's bare minimum just so that my body's ready to lift 30 or 40 pounds uh i did yoga last night, lightly, but a lot of like those, got those blocks and doing those pushups where you go way down and like stretch open your chest. Eating a lot of meat,

like doubling up on my protein intake, tripling up on my protein intake. Are you on that beef liver? I haven't taken any of that yet. All Epic bars right now. We got these incredible Epic bars. It's like bison meat with cranberry. I mean, it's just so pure.

So that has definitely changed things up. Maybe it's building my confidence. Thank you for noticing. Keep in mind, Ian, I do have this note here saying, Ian builds muscle as one of your goals this year. It's happening, man. It happens slowly and then all at once. I believe you, man.

Here's one from PJ. It says, Tim, can you get Annie Jacobson on to talk about her book, First Platoon? Chilling stuff. Maybe. I don't know who that is. We'll have to look into it. Annie Jacobson.

I have another one here from Seve Rose saying, most banks did not have gold to trade for cash after the Civil War. That's a myth, and you should investigate the history of central banks in this country a little closer. Rogan. That they didn't have enough gold? It says that most banks did not have gold to trade for cash, so that wasn't fungible directly.

Well, I mean, that's what the federal bank people said, that there wasn't enough gold and the bank runs destabilized. But a lot of these destabilization events were actually, I believe, orchestrated to generate enthusiasm and getting that pass. So it's kind of, you know, oh, that's what history tells us. But as we've learned today, what is being said right in front of our faces is often not true. So, you know, I agree to an extent, but it's not always what it seems. Ten Buck Stew has a $50 super chat saying, Tim, I don't think you're losing your voice. I think you are slowly channeling the energy of Alex Jones to become his new vessel. Soon, you'll be selling TimCast vitamins and ranting about the chemicals in the grip tape turning the skaters gay.

Is that true, Tim? We're making, we're turning the people into skaters. Oh, it's even better. Here's one from 10 Buck Stew. Tim, oh wait, you just read that. That was a good one. I got another one by Ikefka. It says,

Ian, 100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups, 100 air squats, and a 19-kilometer run. 19? I've never run more than like two miles in a burst. Wait, is that? Yeah. Is that like from the One Punch Man thing? Is that what you're referencing? I don't know if that is or not.

It's like an animated version. Dude, if I could get to that. How much could you run in a mile? Like, what's your time in a mile? I haven't timed it since like high school, and it was nine and a half minutes. I was so out of shape. Wait, you go for a run? You want to go for a run?

No. Oh, my God. He always denies. He doesn't want to. Runnings? I've been very persistent, haven't I? You have been. Every time I see him in the kitchen, I'm like, Ian, we got to go.

We got to do this. Let's go. Dude, I want to make a deal with you. I'm going to get ripped if you get more optimistic i am optimistic i'm very optimistic in homeschooling and the second amendment and people's liberties and freedoms and and humanity figure out figure out problems yeah luke has been very pushy in a great way as a friend about me working it out and it's keeping it in the forefront of my mind so thank you luke i'll i'll read this one here nicole says have you asked crowder to be on the show to clarify stop big con

yes good one moving on bridget may sadara says ian thanks for representing our age group i'm 48 you're always rolling 20s for me much love love to you and your family. Take care. You too, Bridget. Much love to your family, man. Thanks. Hell yeah. You want to read that one? Yeah. I got one from ByBitcoinDaily, parentheses, Jake.

Tim, Luke, you guys are missing the point. Crowder has been demonetized for years. Crowder would be in the default the moment he signed the contract. I brought that up too. I mentioned that he's been demonetized for a long time. But did it say demonetized or did it say banned? Because he can still do ad reads. I think it said if he was banned.

Yeah, that was the thing. Yeah, because he can make a video and then be like, hey, everybody, buy Harry's, or not Harry's, buy whatever. Jeremy's Razors. Jeremy's Razors. Harry's is the bad one yeah yeah but he could just do that you know what I mean

there's interesting things about these contracts too you gotta understand the dirty games they play they'll be like you have to they'll say something like we're gonna give you

you know a big marketing budget we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna help promote your show and you'll be like wow marketing budget right and they'll say yeah we're gonna put half a million dollars in marketing promote your show. You'll be like, wow, marketing budget, right? And they'll say, yeah, we're going to put

half a million dollars in marketing behind your show. And you go, okay. And see, I'm good at business. I'm not the best at business, but I'm just not bad. And so I go, and where does that money go? And then they'll say something like, oh, well, there's stipulations. It's not a marketing budget you know for like any kind of

marketing what these companies will do is they'll find ways to like create value marketing you know that's not you know like it's it's the the true value of something is is is vague so they can be like we'll give you a half a million dollars worth of x and then they'll just say like oh ian this water bottle is worth a hundred dollars so like a targeted ad read they'll be like we'll give you a half a million dollars worth of x and then they'll just say like oh ian this water bottle is worth a hundred dollars so like a targeted ad read they'll be like oh it's worth 35 for a thousand views they'll also pay themselves exactly we charge a hundred thousand dollar marketing fee for internal fees here's our expenses and they'll probably when it comes to marketing they recoup it first or they'll have some of these companies will have like the guy owns 10 companies and they'll say oh as part of the marketing fee, we're hiring super marketing for $100,000 a year to figure out a plan and strategize.

And you're like, but the CEO owns that company. Hollywood is dirty. Entertainment is a little less dirty, but pretty dirty. You absolutely need a very good lawyer. Not just a lawyer. You need a top lawyer if you're going You absolutely need a very good lawyer. Not just a lawyer. You need a top lawyer if you're going to be doing a serious money deal. You'll be like, oh, wow, half a million dollars in marketing.

And you're thinking to yourself, I can get a commercial on Fox News. I can get a commercial in the New York Times. I'll get a billboard in Times Square. And they're thinking to themselves, we're going to find a D-list celebrity. We're going to offer him the equivalent of $100,000 to do a shout out but what he'll get in exchange from us is in a hundred grand it'll be a hundred thousand dollars worth of our time for consulting our crypto token or maybe a commercial on our network so they'll be like oh this guy charges a hundred grand per shout out so now your your budget's out of 400 yeah then they go to him and say okay now we're now we're on the hook

for this here's what we're gonna do we going to give you 20 hours of our consulting. So it's just like, it's all paper money. They're like, Elon Musk lost more money than anyone else in the history of the planet. No, he didn't. That money didn't exist. It was imaginary. People don't get it.

There was no money there. It was text box. We got a $5 super chat from Alex who says, if Luke leaves, I'm canceling my We Are Change membership. Really, bro? You got to do me like that. You're taking food out of Atlas's mouth, okay? What is my co-host going to do?

How is my co-host going to eat? And you got to support your humble, poor t-shirt vendor, okay? If you don't support it, where else are we going to get the t-shirts? So do you still shoot out of your RV when you're in Florida? Do you ever go outside in the sun? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's like one of the reasons, you know, the beach, go outside in the sun? Yeah, absolutely. That's one of the reasons. The beach, the sun, the environment, the people there.

It's amazing. But Atlas is always behind me when I shoot my videos, so she's my co-host. She's awesome. Feed the beast. Yeah. I can't see any of the older Super Chats. I know, I can't either.

Serge is a gatekeeper here. Hey, I'm not gatekeeping. You're gatekeeping. You guys are talking so much that I can get away. Chime up. We're trying to get rid of the dead air here. Come on. Oh, that's not my fault.

I'm trying to switch and read these old chats and do this. Come on. You're doing me wrong. Right now, David Tarantanto, he says, Toronto? Yeah, Toronto. Crowder doesn't have to sign it. DW is a business. They want a profit.

It's effing life. I hope Crowder stays solo, but it's a business. I think that's a lot of people don't realize it is a business. That's important. They offer the big ask. They give him a really huge lopsided contract. He comes back with a low ask and being like, no, no, no. Put it there. Then they find their way into a middle. I mean, that's business. Yeah. There's another one here

from Epstein Rope Co., which I really just wanted to read because that's hilarious. I'm wearing a hat right now that says that. Oh, man. Does that company exist? Can we make a rope company called Epstein Rope Company? We sure that'd be hilarious. It just breaks. It doesn't work.

Every time we try to use it, it just collapses. Anyways, Epstein Rope Co. said, you have DC Drano here, and you're wasting our time talking about contracts. I don't think we're wasting our time. What do you think? It was a big crowd. We brought out my Hollywood expertise there. But listen, it's an honor to be here, and I'm happy to provide that. you think it was a big crowd you know we brought out my hollywood expertise there but uh listen

it's it's it's an honor to be here and i'm happy to provide that part of me uh you know everything else i do is i post it out there so people know we also have an after show as well guys so if you want to see the after show we don't have to be censored and be on the youtube under youtube's whip you can see us talk about more, uh, more cool stuff. There you go. Uh, we have another one too from Kevin Brady. Crowder has missed a ton of time in the past,

uh, from this, from his show. I don't think it's out of touch to say that they factored the penalty in to incentivize, incentivize doing the show consistently, but he had like medical reasons, you know,

like, yeah, heart surgery or something. Yeah. You know, I reason, yeah, but I guess here's the problem with these contracts.

You can't expect the Daily Wire to pay for a show that can't be produced, but the Daily Wire shouldn't expect to buy a show if they can't assume those risks. Like, if I hire someone to work for Timcast and they get sick and they're like, I can't work, it's like, okay, well, I don't stop paying them. Yeah. It's happened to me. I was sick a get sick and I can't work. It's like, okay, well I can't, I don't stop paying them. Yeah. It's happened to me. I was sick a bunch and like a month or so ago, you know,

we here at Timcast have unlimited sick time and unlimited vacation time because we're one of those, one of those hippie communist companies. Everyone makes fun of where the, the woman walks in like, here's my wine dispenser. And like we got an espresso machine downstairs. Did you,

did you see Sam Hyde's video making fun of that yesterday? It was great. It was so funny. One of the funniest. Here's a good one from Marquette Ashamed. I hope I pronounced that right, Marquette. Ian, what's your opinion on the Wizards of the Coast draft

of the open game license 1.1? Great question. It is abhorrent that they're trying to take control retroactively of people's content that they had already signed under open gaming license 1.0 content that they had already signed under open gaming license 1.0 saying that they had the right to own it so wizards is doing owner of

dungeons and dragons is saying we're going to change our open game license that said anyone can use dnd rule sets create their own versions sell it monetize it create companies we're going to change that retroactively and now say you owe us a percentage of your work crosslands will be open source gotta be tabletop rpg and card game hell yeah so but there's been a lot of pushback in the dungeons dragons community against this open gl license 1.1 that may not happen they were fishing and how do we do that how can we make an open source card game and and tabletop rpg i'd have to we would open source the rule set right and then but they'd still have to be like a vote every what six months on like updates well what you could do is make it like free

soft free license code so that anyone could use it and make changes but all the changes are also free so that anything that ever iteration of it gets used will also be available for a community and then one might be like one version might become really popular everyone wants to play but there could be side versions. Yeah, we should do something like that. That'd be cool. The card game, I think, open sourcing is the way to go.

Instead of us trying... I love Magic the Gathering. It's just a fun game. But boy, did they just beat that game to death. Also Wizards of the Coast, same company. So I'm like, can we make a strategy card game that's just open source?

Yeah, but I don't know how that would work. I don't know how that would work i don't know how that would work because it would be just the art would you could plug in your own art and card names but it would still be if the stats the the so it could be that the rules and the structure of the game is open source but the actual cards will be made by like a specific committee so like to construct the game everybody we just get a big community of people and they all pitch the ideas and then we and then we have this huge network of open source individuals play testing and and you know theorizing then what we do is a certain group of individuals the core base which is a little bit elitist ultimately decide on the cards themselves offer them up to the community for

comment and game testing and then the cards are free to print and then we could maybe even like sell them as like i don't know i don't know if you'd be able to do as a non-profit but i would i would be interested in selling the cards not to make a profit just to produce someone's got to pay for the printing but like and there's got to be some kind of standard to it but uh secondary market would cover costs on a lot of things. How do we do it? That'd be fun. That'd be interesting.

If you guys have ideas, tweet them or message me at Mines. I know that we could, I started working on a rules base with like, instead of strength, intelligence, and dexterity, I've got like aim, speed. I have different skill stats, and those things could be open sourced. If I could build out like you roll a D10 if you have five speed then you get five

d10 when you roll it's kind of white wolf style I know you love your rules yeah I am I'm a big status we're gonna grab one more here this is from caper to access Tim our free eggs part of your employees benefits package the world wonders the answer is yes in fact we have like consistently a hundred eggs on the counter and so I'll walk in one day and be like guys take the eggs take 18 to grab a cart and go home with it go eat them i take advantage of it i at least have like two eggs a day do you ever eat them raw amazing or do you ever eat them raw you guys ever eat them crack them and just drink i haven't done that no i scramble them and

splash a little vinegar in the pan and flip around like andrew grew told me to do yeah chef all right everybody if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, become a member at timcast.com because you're supporting our work. You're helping me get sick time. Even though I'm still working every day, I took the mornings off to try and rest my voice. And it's only possible because you guys are members.

Um, and, uh, you're the coffee shop stuff we're doing the game ideas, everything we're trying to do, everything I believe in and everybody here is impacting culture. And so a lot of you may have heard us, you know,

Ian and I talking about tabletop games and other nonsense. Look, Magic the Gathering is one of the most popular card games. It's the OG card game. Easiest way for you to understand it, if you're not familiar, is it's when you combine poker and chess. So it's a strategy, turn-based strategy, but you've also got that element of like,

what's in his hand? What's he got? Has he got the card? Is he going to beat me? And it was extremely popular. People who play it, they're not all like role-playing or anything. It's not like cosplay.

It's like a strategy game, but they went woke, and they're getting woker, and this is really, really bad for culture. Same thing with D&D, and now they want to own people who make the content. It got bought. Wizards of the Coast got, well, D&D got bought by Wizards of the Coast, then got bought by Hasbro.

So it's like this corporate conglomeration is BlackRock owns Hasbro. So now we've got these weird. We want to make, I want it to be decentralized. I want it to be like skateboarding. Of course, there are skateboard companies and you can buy their boards, but you can also make your own board and you can skate. I want to make a game that can have a huge impact on culture. You go to card shops and you're playing the game,

but there is no centralized owner of the game. There's a game format. The rules, the elements of it are open source and available to everybody. And then the popular versions exist. And, you know, they can, maybe it's like someone makes their own card set and you can choose to accept it

or canon or whatever we gotta figure that part out but anyway this is what we're doing and if you believe in that you want to help us do things like impacting culture, making music impacting the skate community building coffee shops being a member helps

you can also smash the like button, subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends and you can follow us at TimCastIRL. You can follow us at TimCast. DC Drano, you want to shout anything out? Just, I'm DC Drano on all the platforms. Well, DC underscore Drano. Yeah, DC underscore Drano.

You can follow me there. What's your Instagram again? DC underscore Drano. Thank you so much for coming on. That was great. Really appreciate you. My website is youtube.com forward slash wearechange. I did a video on there

that's doing really well right now. It is a deep dive on the World Economic Forum, on Elon Musk, and a lot of the other crazier stuff that's happening out there. I got a big product launch coming soon that's going to be really funny and hilarious. To stay tuned with that and everything that I do, check out youtube.com forward

slash we are changed. See you there. And I had a super chat here from, or it wasn't a super chat, it was just from Schutz that says, got to have a mud wizard in Crosslands. I kind of like that mud wizard. I'm going to write that down. Any advice or information or ideas you give me will be used at my sole discretion and will be owned by me or actually by Tim Cass.

So keep that in mind. Everything's going to be open source. I have no interest in controlling or owning any kind of information in this state of my life. Rogan, that was really awesome, too. We did talk a lot about things that weren't you tonight, but I really enjoy hanging out with you, man. Hopefully we'll get to do this again. I have a feeling it won't be the last time, but it's been awesome to finally meet you guys. I have a lot of respect and admiration for what you're doing. Cause like I was saying before, you know, I speak to the MAGA base. I try to be a voice of the MAGA people, but what the audience that you guys are reaching is the most important

because it grows this movement for freedom. It's a big tent party and, you know, I'm not touching, I'm not reaching people in the card games and the video games and the tent party. And, you know, I'm not touching, I'm not reaching people in the card games and the video games and the skate shops and the, you know, so it's, it's, it's a team effort to help save this country. And I'm just a damn proud of what y'all are doing. So we, we have to inspire young people. And if a young person goes to a comic book shop today, when I was a kid, I'm 12, I go to a comic shop. We were all, when I was 12, we were all rollerblading and I would rollerblade to the comic book shop.

I turned 13, I'm skateboarding all of a sudden. At the comic shop, I'm watching Dragon Ball Z. I'm watching, you know, Justice League. And those were the things that inspired me when I was a little kid. Naruto and Goku

and a lot of these anime, mangas and animes, whatever you call it, the plural. The character is always like, it's always about someone underestimated who has to work really, really hard. So I'll give you an example. Black Clover is an anime.

I stopped watching it, but I really like it. It's this world where everybody eventually gets a grimoire. Like, not everybody everybody but some people have magic and like a book will appear and like whoa and then the book has magic spells they can cast this one kid desperately wants to be you know like a mage working for the king but he has no magic powers so instead he works out until he becomes this extremely physically powerful dude and then he's actually able to compete on a level with people who have magic. And then eventually he does get like negative magic or whatever, but he's just got a sword.

And so what I really love about a show like that is that he's up against all these people who are either naturally talented or were gifted things or are prodigies. And then he's always had to work as hard as possible, but he ends up winning. That's the kind of message kids need to hear. This dude, like they show him like just doing pushups nonstop and they're like making fun of him, like, ha ha, he has no magic. And then he like jumps so hard, he shatters the ground. And it's like, no one's going to give you magic. You have to do the work. That's why we have to make games. That's why we have to skate. That's why we have to make music because we don't want kids growing up watching shows where it's like the world is owed to you. You can have whatever you want.

You can even cut off your own genitals. And no, no, no. We want to tell people like the world is not just the world is not fair. We have to work hard every day to bring that fairness, to bring justice. And if we're going to be superheroes, it's not because you're an X-Man and you turned 13 and got magic powers. It's because you did 100 push-ups every single day and you earned that. That's the message you got to give to kids. That's what I'm talking about.

So do we mention – Serge Dupre? Yeah. How do you pronounce your last name exactly? Splurge. Yeah, Splurge is my legal name actually. Yeah. But my name is Serge.

My name is pronounced Dupria. My internet name is.com, D-O-T-C-O-M. I keep wanting to be like, Dupria, engage. I love that name, Dupria. Hey, thank you. My parents would be stoked to hear you say that. Serge.com, I'm everywhere. Serge.com, SoundCloud, Instagram, Twitter, I guess, all this stuff.

I'm trying to be more of a troll and be more annoying on Twitter. I understand Twitter humor now. Careful, though, because in text, they don't understand the context. Oh, yes. Yeah. Too much sarcasm for my own good. But yeah, follow me there. I will be in the chat, as always.

I'll be in the comments, I should say, rather. And yeah, talk to you guys there. Thanks for hanging out everybody Steven Crowder will be on this show on Monday so just for those

that made it this far in the show and didn't dip earlier I will confirm you told them yeah yeah yeah I'm getting texts from the crew

and you know I'm talking to Steven as well oh they want to announce it well I just asked him I was like is it okay if I tell people

you're going to be on the show he's like yeah yeah so Steven will be here on Monday soonest we can get, is it okay if I tell people you're going to be on the show? He's like, yeah, yeah. So Steven will be here on Monday. Soonest we can get him in. Really excited. Glad to, I think it's going to be really, really awesome.

He's got a lot he wants to say about this. Obviously, we've given our thoughts. We're more of the fence-sitting, you know, milquetoast fence-sitters on this regard. But, you know,

Steven's invited to come. And then maybe we'll end up having Jeremy back because, I don't know, I like both these guys. So this will be interesting. This should be fun. We're going to go to the members only section.

Thanks for hanging out. We'll see you all at timcast.com. Cheers, guys.