Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #697 Crowder Leaks Phone Call With Daily Wire As 'The Big Con' Drama Erupts w/Candace Owens

Episode Date: January 20, 2023

Tim, Ian, Luke, & Serge join Candace Owens to discuss Steven Crowder leaking his phone call with Jeremy of The Daily Wire, internet sleuths discovering StopBigCon domain was purchased back in December 2022, Alec Baldwin charged with manslaughter, Al Gore being slammed for his ridiculous comments about the climate, and the EU saying hate speech laws are coming to the US. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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charge. Bet MGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. What, what, what just happened? Like YouTube picked up like the pre-show. I was talking about making a video game and like open source rules or something. Oh,

I hope people heard it. It's like hot mic. Tim's talking about making a game. I was talking about my hair sticking out. Talk about your hair sticking out. Oh I hope people heard it. It's like hot mic. Tim's talking about making a game. I was talking about my hair sticking up. Yeah I think that's what popped up. That's embarrassing. Is it? So Steven Crowder put out a response to Jeremy Boring's response. Let me give you the gist.

You've got two juggernauts in independent anti-establishment slash conservative media space. Crowder is accusing the Daily Wire. The Daily Wire's co-CEO Jeremy Boring issued a response. Steven Crowder is accusing The Daily Wire. The Daily Wire's co-CEO Jeremy Boring issued a response. Stephen Crowder just issued another response and the drama is heating up. And in this response, Crowder posted clips of a phone call he had with Jeremy Boring, which is now just lighting up the drama even more because you've got some people saying they don't

like what Jeremy said, but a lot of people pointing out that, you know, why did Stephen record Jeremy Boring's phone call in the first place? It's like, that's kind of a, you know, I don't know, man. People are not happy that that happened. So we're going to talk about all this. And this is also lighting up in mainstream press. It's like the big con, the drama between Stephen Crowder and the Daily Wire. And, you know, it's convenient for us that right after the speaker's vote, we're like, man, there's no news and all of a sudden, this drama happens. Hold my beer.

Yeah, hold my beer. So we're going to talk about that but we do have news. We had a lot of stuff out of the World Economic Forum. Al Gore saying that he went on this, he may as well held up a sign saying the end is nigh with a scraggly beard on the side of a highway screaming about how it's all coming to an end. Because it was like an unhinged rant.

And it's funny, coming from a guy who like 20 years ago said we had 10 years or because it was like an unhinged rant. And it's funny coming from a guy who like 20 years ago said we had 10 years or whatever. So like, okay, man, calm down. Like we want to be good stewards of the earth, but saying it's going to rain bombs and people like a billion refugees are going to storm countries.

Slow down there, buddy. And then we got them saying that there will be a ban on free speech in this country. So we'll talk about that. Plus Alec Baldwin, my friends, I told you,

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There was some lying around and there was live ammo in Alec Baldwin's gun belt that he was wearing. So when y'all say like, but how could the bullet have gotten to the gun? I don't know. Maybe the guy who shot the gun had the bullet on him, had bullets on him.

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My name is Candace Owens. Just as he said, I would like to confirm that statement. Tell me more. I would like to also first say that this was not planned, a part of this thing that blew up this week. We booked me on for this exact night before the end of last year. So it just happened to be that I am on when all of this drama is unfolding with The Daily Wire and Steven Crowder.

This was not a plot. They don't know you are. Are you on contract with the Daily Wire? Is that what it is? Are you employed with the Daily Wire? I'm not employed. I am contracted. You know, I do my show on my podcast show five days a week. I'm a Daily Wire.

And I've now been doing that for almost three years, I think. Two to three years. Yeah. Cool. Right on. Well, we definitely got to talk about the Crowder stuff because before we went live, you were just going off about all this stuff and there's a lot to say so we'll get into that we got luke hanging out hey guys my name is luker dowsky here of we are change.org and the

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Thank you again so much for having me. Ian Crosland from iancrosland.net. What's up, everybody? Candice, great to see you again. Always a pleasure. Always a pleasure. Let's get down to this, Serge. Yeah, I'm at Serge.com. Always happy to see you. It's going to be a good episode, so let's go. All right, so here's the first story that we have,

and this one's going to get spicy. We got this video clip from Steven Crowder titled, I Didn't Want to Do This. Crowder has issued a response to Jeremy Boring's response. In it, Steven Crowder releases some audio, notably, well, let me see if I can play this. Do we have the audio properly set up? Yep.

Here we go. We'll play the beginning. They don't get deals that make me wage slaves for a little bit. Come over and make a salary and grow their brand. Make me wage slaves for a little bit. Make me wage slaves for a little bit. God bless the talk boy

Those things are worth like $5,000 now It's an expensive gag That is kind of crazy, I didn't realize they were so expensive Before YouTube, that was how I used to do it This is a tough one Stephen's not here to defend himself, but Candice is here to give her perspective on this. So I'll just throw it to you

and give me your thoughts on his response and what happened with The Daily Wire because I know you got a lot to say. I do have a lot to say about this because obviously the situation impacted me and impacted all of the other hosts on The Daily Wire. So first and foremost, I feel like I just want to say this,

which is that I have never once, I've been with The Daily Wire two to three years now, you have never once heard me come out to defend The Daily Wire. So first of all, I feel like I just want to say this, which is that I have never once, I've been with Daily Wire two to three years now, you have never once heard me come out to defend The Daily Wire on anything. This is not the first time Daily Wire has been in a firestorm or has been had some beef that has gone on, whether it's for Ben or Matt or Michael that's gone on the last three years. I tend to stay very much in my lane. As I mentioned before, I'm not an employee of The Daily Wire. I'm not required to come out and defend them. And I'm usually just not interested in these beefs that seem to be so fickle. They last for a day and then they go away. And it's probably the reason why for whatever, doesn't really matter what

anybody thinks about me. I have a good relationship with pretty much everybody. Like there's no one that I can't be invited and be in the same room with. Everybody sort of hates each other, but I'm kind of, I can, Alex Jones has a good opinion of me. Everyone from Alex Jones to Ben Shapiro to Paul Joseph Watson, Mike Cernovich is somebody that I call and ask for advice from time to time, Jack Posobiec. Like, I'm a kind of person that judges people based on how they treat people, right? I'm not interested in dabbling in this nonsense, nonsense from time to time that appears and then goes away and ebbs and flows. This situation, though, was different because basically Stephen Crowe decided to launch a war and didn't really care who. This situation, though, was different because basically Stephen

Crowe decided to launch a war and didn't really care who got hit, you know, with the shrapnel, right? He comes out, he makes this glorious video, which it's shocking to me that people cannot see the amount of acting that was going into this. We all understand he was a childhood actor. He was on, I loved that show, Arthur. He was the brain. Like he is an actor. At the end of the day, he's an actor. It's also why he's so entertaining when it comes to politics. He's a talented person, but that people cannot discern

the amount of acting that has gone on in this is stunning to me. I don't know where people's discernment, what's gone on with discernment, where you can't just spiritually discern that, this feels a little weird, right? You're recording conversations with someone that you have told us

you are friends with forever. Oh, and by the way, at the end of you saying that you're just trying to do the right thing, you're also saying, I'm going to launch my own thing. Right. So just when I first saw the first video that he dropped, obviously, I'm not privy to negotiations that happen on The Daily Wire. I had no idea they were negotiating with Steven Crowder. Again, not my business. I came into work one day. Suddenly, Brett Cooper was there. Not my business. I don't know who they're hiring. I don't own the company. Right. But what I started getting was

after I had dropped my podcast in the comments section, everyone was basically tearing me apart, being like blink twice if you need help for a single like I'm a hostage situation or saying, well, if you don't say anything about Steven Crowder, you're a fraud, you're a fraud. Just like suddenly you're a fraud, you're a fraud. So I go and I watch this video and just like everybody else watching it live, his first video, your instincts are like, whoa, he's throwing some bombs. He's calling it big con. He's saying essentially that we are enslaved by these contract terms. He actually uses the term enslavement. If you don't want to be a slave, you know, you may be a comrade. I'm going to figure it out for all of us. Like you're a hero. You're a martyr. And because I was getting so many comments, the first thing I did was that I messaged my EP and I said, we have to cover this tomorrow on the show because now everyone thinks I'm a fraud. And they think that I've signed with fraudulent terms or slave-like terms and that's so totally unfair to me. So my interest in this is that it hit me and it hit everybody else at Daily Wire and it was unfair. Do you, I don't know, you don't

have to answer this I guess, but do you have a similar contract? There are certain terms I recognize. That's why I immediately knew it was Daily Wire. So for example, the fee reduction if you miss a day of work, right? Like if you miss a day of work, we are paying for X amount of episodes and this is a steep amount if you miss one day of work, right? Like if you miss a day of work. We are paying for X amount of episodes, and this is a steep amount if you miss one day of work. When you first see that, when I first received a contract from a Daily Wire, I went, that's a shocking number to see.

Then you have to calculate, and by the way, mine was not this. I want to be very clear, I don't have a $50 million contract. If there's anything I should be upset about, it's that they were going to pay that much to Steven Crowder, right? I need to go renegotiate my contract. But so you see it, and it's shocking,

and then you read under which is what he did not include when he says so if i get hit by a car like i'm just gonna a hundred thousand dollars a day he didn't tell you how much he made you don't know what a hundred thousand dollar means unless you can see what were they offering him and you can calculate yourselves okay so what they're basically saying is that we're paying you sixty three thousand dollars a day you know what i'm saying he he He purposely excluded right beneath it that says that actually it's prorata in an event of an emergency. That's a very insignificant thing that would allow people not to be enraged at seeing this.

Yeah, just to clarify, when Jeremy released his video, he showed the additional portion that said in the event of temporary disability, they prorate you. There's no penalty. And then we talked about this last night. I said the $100,000 seems punitive. I think you mentioned, yeah, but what about Daily Wire's costs? I said, oh yeah, fair point. DC Joy knows it, and that is exactly right.

They have all of these contracts that exist. It's very easy to understand. We're paying you, his is $100,000. We're paying you $63,000 for the content. They also have a bunch of contracts everybody's working on the show. So for example, my EP, she's contracted. I don't know what her contract says, but maybe it says that no matter what, she is guaranteed this bunch of contracts. Everybody's working on the show. So, for example, my EP, she's contracted. I don't know what her contract says. Maybe it says that no matter what, she is guaranteed this amount of money.

So if I magically call out, they still have to pay her. They still have to pay the camera guy. Maybe the advertising is punitive. If you didn't give us the content, the advertisers maybe then say, okay, J. Loire has to pay us $5,000 if Candace doesn't read ads on that day. You don't know when you have an organization this big what everybody's contracts are. So I assume it's $60,000 and then they're baking in an extra $38,000 to cover their assets to pay everybody else that maybe showed up for work that day.

But Jeremy did say punitive. It is. Because he said, well, you're right about the costs all around it. But he said, he basically said one circumstance is you're choosing not to work and one is you're unable to work. If you're unable, we get it. We'll just prorate based on the lost day.

But he also says something interesting that you could make up that day by banking it at any time. Right. I do that, by the way. I do that. And that's why it's so annoying. So I see these things.

To people who don't know how this works, first and foremost, it's a term sheet. He was never given a contract. It was a term sheet. It's essentially a starting conversation. Here's what we have in mind. Everything's baked in. Some things literally don't make sense.

Like in my term sheet, it said, you know, we whatever about they wanted access to my Snapchat. I don't have a Snapchat. They wanted access to my room. I don't have a room. They don't want access. It's literally just like, here's something so we can get the conversation started

and really the thing you need to pay attention to is like this is the money and then of course our lawyer's gonna go back and say this makes entirely no sense this makes entirely no sense

so then you get to you know personalize it so to speak right when you say okay well this thing makes me nervous

because okay what if it's not me that's sick but my son I have two kids right what if my son breaks his leg and I have to be I'm not gonna not leave his side so I but my son, I have two kids, right? What if my son breaks his leg and I have to be, I'm not going to not leave his side. So I have to, I have to then say, I need to

personalize this term sheet. And that is what the contract is then for. If you come to some agreement that this is what we're going to work on, right? This is what we're going to negotiate in good faith, right? So he first and foremost lied by saying it was a contract. He lied by omission, by not saying how much money so people couldn't calculate, okay, really how punitive is that $100,000? Not that much. And you consider that there's a bunch of costs that go in to producing a show and people that they may have paid editors. In this case, he produces his own show. But you know, editors, writers, no matter what the Daily Wire has to receive that package and do something to it. So and by the way, like I said, we know it's at least standard. So it's not because they're trying to hit Steven Crowder. They've given this to all of

us. And your job then, if you're a big boy, right, if you can put on your big boy pants, is to go to your lawyer and to say, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. This makes no sense. Negotiate. Now, if you are a young talent that was discovered on YouTube, as I was way back in the day, who comes from no money, as I was way back in the day, this could be like unfair because I can't afford a lawyer to go through line by line of this and redline this. That is not the circumstance for Steven Crowder. He's already told us he's got so much money,

he's more successful and he doesn't need the money, blah, blah, blah. So why didn't you just hire a lawyer? But that's what he said in the rebuttal. Yeah. It's not about me. It's about the Daily Wire signing new upcoming young people to these terms

and they don't have words. And in that capacity, he hits Brett Cooper, right? Now he's basically so who who is a young upcoming talent that got signed with the there's only what five hosts of shows on the daily wire i mean so you're talking about matt matt walsh no he's not young upcoming talent that's just been signed you're talking about michael knowles no he's not young upcoming you're not talking about can't stones i don't think we would say andrew claven is young upcoming talent so you're talking about brett cooper that's insulting to brett cooper you have no idea what

he's just saying shit right and it's not like he's reached out to us and said hey like i'm doing this for all of us like he's not he reached out independently to daily wire host and been like are you dealing with this agreed these egregious terms no he is doing this purely let's not even try to make this anything but a selfish act that was to benefit Steven Crowder, who wants to launch his own network. And by the way, I gotta say this, this is the most important part of this, and nobody is talking about this. He receives the term sheet, okay? And he thinks it's so egregious that he's got to make this video four months later, right? I don't know what happened in those four months after they started negotiating.

I guess Steven Crowder woke up, new year, new me. I hate the Daily Wire, so I'm going to go after them. He thinks it's so egregious. The first thing he does is counteroffer and say, let's start talking about 140 million, okay? So if it was so outrageous, why did he go back to them and say, no, actually, we can have this conversation, but let's start talking about 140 million, right? It was only when the Daily Wire then turned that down

that the term sheet became so egregious that he had to do something about it. I'll just add real quick to everybody. Steven Crowder is coming on the show on Monday. I know he's not here to defend himself. Did you speak to him? Because he might have recorded your conversation. So you might want to comment about whatever the hell it is you said to him.

I mean, yeah, my view is I was kind of surprised to hear that Steven recorded the phone call with Jeremy because I don't know why you would. Oh, and by the way, it should be mentioned, that conversation, so they stopped negotiating completely, which Jeremy made clear in his video. This was over. He doesn't even know what this is coming from because this conversation stopped when Stephen Crowder then came back with a counter term sheet offer of a glorious $140 million over X amount of years. And they said, we just can't do this, right?

Then he sat and he stewed and he said nothing until one week ago he reaches out to jeremy and he asks him to talk on the phone and that was one week ago that is the conversation that you are guys are all hearing that he is playing right now so he plotted this this is a plot line he planned to then record him to go back and to make this video if If he had recorded this way back during negotiations, maybe you could say there was no plot. Why did he reach out to Jeremy exactly one week ago when they hadn't discussed anything pertaining to the contract? And they said no one walked away last year around October, November. And then suddenly in January, he reaches out one week ago and says, hey, can we get on the phone? And he decides maybe I should record this.

No, it's because he realized he had nowhere left to go and his next plot in this storyline in this terrible childhood acting that he's doing right now was, okay, I have to do my own thing now and so I need to drum up some drama

to get everybody that I know to believe that I am a martyr for our beliefs and they should dump their subscriptions to everybody else that's a part of VidCon and join the mug club.

How can people not see? I mean, the writing is just so on the wall. The fact that he recorded Jeremy says that he did plan. Of course he planned. Look, I'm not here to impugn his honor. I think you're absolutely entitled to your view working with the Daily Wire and everything you've seen.

But it does suggest that he knew he was calling Jeremy for this reason. I think Crowder is, I don't know if I, I think it might be too far for me to believe think Crowder is, I don't know if I, I think it might be too far for me to believe that Crowder is trying to do this to pull subscribers

from Daily Wire or make more money for himself because the dude already makes a lot of money. But he does not, he thinks that he is worthy of $140 million a year. Do you believe

that Steven Crowder right now is making $140 million a year? I bet he could. You bet he could. I absolutely do think he could. You bet he could, but how's he got to do that? How's he got to start that? He just had a to do that? How's he got to start that?

He just had a couple of kids. How's he got to start that? You launch a war in a conservative movement and you move people away from a business that you want to model. I don't know who's modeling who.

I don't know who started this first, but you basically say, I'm not them. Come with me. And that's exactly what he's doing. Call a spade a spade. Call a spade a spade. Okay?

This was a plot line and that annoys me because he dragged me into this plot line, okay? He dragged us onto this plot line. He's basically saying, at one point in his video, this is what really set me off. He's like, and so you might be noticing that a lot of these people, their viewpoints are sanitized. And this is why.

This contract. This is why. Essentially saying that Candace is controlled. Matt Walsh is controlled. Michael Knowles is controlled. Brettace is controlled Matt Walsh is controlled Michael Knowles is controlled Brett Cooper is controlled and now we know why guys because I have this contract

which I've conveniently excerpted portions that could allow you to discern for yourself but it's actually not that unreasonable as a starter conversation which is what a term sheet is

right and instead I'm just going to smear all these people that are associated with the other wire and that's why I'm pissed off that's why I'm pissed off

because I then was fielding comments calling me a fraud, because they thought that I agreed to these terms and that my voice was being controlled. You know what I told Stephen? I said, I think ideologically, I understand his gripe with the contracts

and I agree with the contracts. We don't do contracts the way the Daily Wire does. There was no contract. I just want to say that one more time. Right, so contract, different term. Terms. I don't do terms the way the Daily Wire does. was no contract i just want to say that one more right so uh contract different term um terms i don't i don't do terms the way the daily wire does i also am you know the way it's it's like the joe rogan story i have to tell that he booted me from his show twice and i didn't get mad at him

i was like well i'm kind of i'm kind of pissed off that he he booted me twice like happened twice and i flew out to la but he doesn't owe me any favors i'm not gonna rag on joe rogan because he didn't do me a favor if i was on his show be really great owe me any favors. I'm not going to rag on Joe Rogan because he didn't do me a favor. If I was on his show, it'd be really great for me. It didn't work out. I'm going to carry on with my life and my business.

I've negotiated with The Daily Wire. We couldn't figure out something that worked. We're very different in that sense. And I said, well, you know, it was nice hanging out and let's work on stuff in the future

and we'll make awesome stuff. I told Steven, I said, I think that The Daily Wire is a massive net positive, especially with like, what is a woman? I mean, that was a massive cultural force that got even mainstream, like moderate lefty And so my attitude is like, look, I don't like the contracts. They're very business-like,

the very entertainment industry. I understand that Daily Wire doesn't. If someone came to me and said, we're going to get investors, we're going to get some prominent conservative voices, and we're going to launch a company that rivals Disney, I'd be like, man, I don't like Disney. And they'll go, yeah, yeah.

But it will be America loving, independently minded, meritocratic. I'll say, oh, I'll take that over Disney any day. And then I'll go and do my thing that I think should be the way I want it to be. And I'm not gonna be mad at the Daily Wire for the Daily Wire doing a thing like. Yeah. So what you're describing, first and foremost, are the free markets, right? If you don't like it somewhere, leave. I thought we were conservatives.

I thought that's what you're trying to preserve, right? A free market mentality. If Daily Wire is so awful, right? And so predatory and treating their talent so horrifically, they'd have no talent, right? Then literally, Stephen Crowder wouldn't have to launch a war. He just have to launch an alternative business

with better contracts and people would leave willingly. They would say, there's more money there. There's better treatment. I'm leaving. That's how the free markets work, right? Because he did not feel, maybe he's feeling a little insecure. He thought that he was a free agent more money there. There's better treatment. I'm leaving. That's how the free markets work, right? Because he did not feel maybe he's feeling a little insecure. He thought that he was a free agent. He feels like he's Tom Brady. Everyone's going

to make me all these offers. And he thought it came in extremely low. Tom Brady. I'm Tom Brady. Why am I getting offered $50 million? I should be offered $140 million. And the team says, no, thank you, Tom Brady. And then he goes, well, I'm effing Tom Brady. Well, the truth is, it's like, I think Steven Crowder was feeling insecure. I think he was reeling after those negotiations. I think there are very few conservative networks that can offer him that money. He's actually, you know, he's burned a few bridges, right? Fox News, he's burned a bridge. He's burned a bridge with the police.

How many other companies in the conservative movement does he think can reasonably afford to pay him what he thinks he's worth, right? The Daily Wire. So when he was done, I think that he was feeling tremendously insecure, right? When those negotiations failed in October and Novembermber he stewed on it in november in december came up in january and decided okay i'm gonna have to launch my own outfit i'm gonna go after the daily wire and his plot line included calling jeremy boring catching him on cam on on we only have seen a piece of his conversation jeremy has already tweeted that he called him like hey let's

catch up and then and now he's he was like let's talk about the kids and christmas they were friends very close friends okay stephen crowder has said they were friends not colleagues not associates not you know like i would say me and matt walsh and what were associates but friends he called his friends to talk about christmas and his kids and said he recorded him and then dropped that recording a week later pretending that he was doing this to be a martyr. I just don't see how people don't realize this guy is a bad, a fundamentally bad person.

I don't understand how this is even a debate. The phone call thing's rough. I mean... Who records their friends? With friends like these, who needs enemies? Who needs the left when we've got friends like these in the conservative movement? But the other thing too is, I say this about Project Veritas, I think Veritas should release the raw when they when they do this stuff like there's a lot of stuff that veritas has done it's been very very important but i'm

often like you know it could quash a lot of these arguments about deceptive editing if you just say like we editorialized here's the raw footage you can see for yourself minus private information if there's like addresses or phone numbers in this in this context i'm really not a fan of snippets being released because it's like okay well what what led up to that moment like when he said wage slaves we don't we don't know the context of it sounds to me like he was potentially asking a question about well do you do this you know with with all we're telling he's like well this is different you're a big person coming in and we don't have to put as much money behind you so we're concerned that you're going to have an ad drop if If you're a new person, you're saying you come to Daily Wire. And by this is completely a guess.

I have no idea. You're coming to Daily Wire and you're like, hey, I want to try this thing. You know, can you make can you make my name bigger? Essentially, you're saying, like, here are the wages we're going to pay you. You're going to work your ass off. You know what I mean? And you have the the benefit of having the entire Daily Wire network behind you. I think he was probably trying to describe, again, I have no idea,

the different mentality between getting talent like steven crowder and trying to get him in a contract versus getting talent that's new and is looking to become a daily wire because they basically absorb all the benefit again i don't know but it is exactly what he was saying probably what he was saying and now he excerpted wage slaves as if he like was these pump these slaves that are working for me i mean it's it's a colloquialism you know what i mean he's he's using that term not seriously but it allows him to play that excerpt to make it sound like this is how the daily wire treats their employees i mean it's just horrible stuff that he's doing with daily wire jeremy was saying that if a new

person with no audience comes to daily wire they're basically going to put them on a contract with a wage and then they're going to own all the content that they say they're going to own. Then when the person's done off the contract, they can go continue to be famous and successful, although Daily Wire will still own the stuff that they paid for

to get produced while that person was there. And he used the term wage slave. Now, I'm with you. I don't think the term, the words themselves are that big of a deal. No, but he wants it to come across

like a big idea, like it's a very big deal because he's relying on business ignorance. He keeps doing this. He keeps relying on business ignorance. He keeps doing this. He keeps relying on business ignorance and he's appealing. And this is literally a socialist tactic. He's appealing to like, you know, the Amazon employees who want to like stick it to the man and then they boycott and they pick it because they're not getting paid, you know, $50,000 an hour and being treated to ice cream once a week.

He's appealing to people that he's like, OK, think of yourself as an employee, not as a business person. Right. This is a business person mindset. This is what I get from this conversation. And obviously I'm privy to these, these talks with Jeremy and Caleb. This is, this is who I negotiate my contracts with. And there have literally been times because I'm a big girl and I go and I sit with them where I say, there's no way I'm signing this line. You know, they move an inch this way. I move an inch that way. They move an inch this way. You know, and then, then here we are, we, we meet here in the middle where we all feel like this is a good contract and nobody's a slave right

because in order to sign a contract if you fully comprehend it you're not a slave you're just not a slave something i think about jeremy personally and not too relevant but i think he enjoys negotiating i think if you want to work with the wire you got to know that going into it jeremy enjoys negotiating i want to read a super chat real quick because this is an important point. IDG says, Daily Wire's agenda, make profit. Crowder's agenda,

saving American experiment. Exhibit, J-B-P deletes tweet supporting Crowder. Exhibit B, your poll. I'll tell you what I think. I don't completely disagree with that. I think the Daily Wire is a machine. I think the Daily Wire is a machine

that is not the ideological like system that I would personally build. We do things very differently here. The people who are here are on salary with no terms.

Like if you, if pop culture crisis got banned from you. Because this is a small company. That's how it is when you work for me. I have a company too, a small company

where we have seven employees and it's familial. You see, Savannah's downstairs. We get to hang out and do fun things because we're a small company. If we grew and we suddenly had 400 employees, things have to get a lot more serious We have seven employees and it's familial. You see, Savannah's downstairs. We get to hang out and do fun things. We're a small company.

If we grew and we suddenly had 400 employees, things have to get a lot more serious and professional. That's true. But I've talked to Jeremy a lot about this. And so it may just be, we're small. And then he's like, when you get bigger, man, you're going to run into these things. And I'm like, maybe.

But here's my thing. I like the Daily Wire. I think the Daily Wire is, I think Jeremy and everybody else involved and you know jeremy's one made the video are seeking to to make money and and use that money and and build more and make more money if the daily wire succeeds and makes money and then makes more movies and makes more documentaries that means we're going to get more what is a woman it means we're going to get more you is a Woman? It means we're going to get more Gina Carano's. It means Hollywood will be weakened. It means as Hollywood falls from the hill,

a machine that actually, at least to some degree, shares our values will be there. It may be, in your opinion, a cold, faceless machine, but at least the cold, faceless machine is saying meritocracy, meritocracy. I'll be like, okay, well.

Well, LOL to anyone who thinks that Steven Crowder is not doing this to make money. Like, I mean, I just have to outwardly laugh. He's the person in a disguise. He's a wolf in sheep's clothing, right? He's like, I'm not, I'm here because I care about all of you.

That's why I'm recording my friend and doing this crappy thing where I literally could have just said, no, I don't like those terms and then said to everybody, I'm starting my own outfit. Fair. You walk away all the time. You have to go.

You will. I have walked away. You know, I had an offer from the blaze. You walk away all the time. I have walked away. I had an offer from The Blaze. It didn't work for me. You know what I mean? I didn't need to piece apart the contract. I love those guys. I think Tyler is amazing.

This is what I'm saying. People need to stop thinking that he is some knight in shining armor. He's not. He's not a knight in shining armor. And if you can't see that, watch this video because I think his acting

is never more apparent. Even the titles, I didn't want to do this. Oh this oh really then why the hell did you record him what were you doing that for do you think you're gonna go to court do you think you're gonna go to court because that's the only reason you record someone you'd be like i don't trust my ex-fucking-wife pardon my language okay i don't trust my ex-wife so i'm gonna record this phone call for safety right you record it because you're nervous that there's going to be a court here or the police are going to find out you've got to back up what you said.

Why are you recording your friend if not because you think it's going to go to court? Oh, because you think it's going to go to public and you're doing it intentionally because you know you're about to start a war. People, please use your common sense. It's not even because I work for Daily Wire. It is because he personally is lying and he insulted me during his lying campaign. He's still lying. He even said something in this video where he's like now they're sending out there no no no you took if you're gonna aim and you're gonna hit somebody with shrapnel it's gonna be me you better aim correctly because i

don't like shit like this okay i have been quiet i know stephen crowder treats people like like absolute trash it's a known thing in the conservative movement ask anybody that works the blaze any person's ever had to show on the Blaze. How Steven Crowder treats people. By the way, you want to talk about contract negotiations? Why doesn't somebody reach out to Not Gay Jared, right? Who used to be with Steven Crowder and figure out why he can't speak. Why doesn't Steven Crowder release Not Gay Jared from his NDA? I don't like shit like this. That's all I'm saying.

I don't like it. I want both Daily Wire and Crowder to succeed. We should do a movie. That's what we all wanted. Who cares? I want to do a buddy cop movie. Yeah, something like Lethal Weapon, man. Me and Steve. It's going to be crazy. It's going to be wanted. Who cares? I want to do a buddy cop movie. Yeah, something like Lethal Weapon, man.

Me and Steve. It's going to be crazy. Luke's sitting here. I don't know what he's doing, man. It's just bad business. It's just bad business. I'm like, this is like, whoa, you know, WWE.

Let me explain. And I'm like, I personally just, you know, I personally don't care to be honest. I want to try and like. I want to talk about

The Globalist. We will. And how taxation. He's like, I've got my notes. I want to talk and like... I want to talk about the globalists. We will. And how taxation... He's like, I've got my notes. I want to talk about taxation, theft, politicians are criminals. All right, but let's do drama first. I think that what happened,

Steve, well, first of all, why was he recording? I think that's a fair question, but we don't, doesn't need to be answered in Texas. It's legal to record. It's a one party consent state. So it's like saying,

why is he open carrying a gun? Because he's planning to shoot someone like you don't know why he's got a gun. You don't know why he's recording and it really doesn't matter. But recording is the action. Like if he had a tape recorder when he made the phone call and didn't record, I'd say that argument is comparable, right? For all I know, everyone in Texas is recording every conversation at every moment and they have a right to do that. And maybe even a responsibility at this stage of reality. I don't know. Things you say can be taken out of context if you don't have the protection for yourself.

Secondly, I think what Steven said in this video that we're probably not going to watch all the way through. It's pretty long. Or what, 20 minutes, 18 minutes? Is that he's not concerned about the money, but I agree with you, Candice. He did say, I can't do 50 million. I need 140, 30 million.

Something about 30 million a year is what he was looking for. Jeremy said that, I think, $30 million. And then Crowder said he did. He counter-offered. He's like, I didn't sign up for the money. So why did you counter-offer before you decided the terms weren't available? So after they realized the money, that's not an option. We can't do $140 million.

Stephen said, then you've got to take these demonetization negative penalties out from if I violate YouTube's terms. Because now you're an arm of big tech. Because you're making me follow YouTube's terms of service you're basically a lapdog for youtube but crowder follows their terms of service too we all do that's the whole point the first time i was on this show you it was during covid crazy if i remember correctly and you said i you know i know you have a stance on vaccines let's wait until we get onto behind the paywall let's let's not let's be responsible Let's not get banned. Yeah.

Let's talk about the 99 things we can and then the other stuff we can put on TimCast.com so that we can slide the conversations. Oh, you're shilling for big tech. You're part of Big Con now. You're all a part of Big Con because you're being smart

and you don't want to get banned until we have a comparable platform to go to. Listen, the perfect world, we would all wish that we could do, I invest all of my time in trying to support companies and sometimes they fail and it sucks you know what i mean like i really believed in glorified banking it crashed you know i really believed in the freedom the freedom phone that didn't work out we all want an alternative and we meaningfully want an alternative

we just don't have them we're not there yet as a conservative movement so while we're not there yet it's our we're just all gonna what just shoot ourselves in the foot and be nowhere to prove that we were a real one right, it shows that you're a gangster because you got shot in your chest nine times. If you don't get shot in your chest nine times, you're not a real gangster. Like a real effective fighter against that is to use the momentum of Silicon Valley

against itself or for your favor, like jujitsu it. I don't think pushing back is the right use of energy. It requires too much. So you want to use these platforms to one, get the word out about new platforms and two as hosting, because you can host things behind.

I mean, obviously they'll get banned. Hold on. Give it to me. We can check this. Pulled upon who is the domain for stop. Big con was registered on 12, 12,

2022. Who is.com? Stop. Big con was registered on 12, 12, 2022. Internet sleuths Are gonna catch him Crowder announces

He left the blaze And asked people To sign up for Mug Club On 12-15-2022 It was all Like Listen

I love you internet sleuths Because This is Of course This is what's going to happen And this is the problem Is that Stephen has to realize People are smart

Okay People are smart They're gonna figure it out Oh so you happened To look up To register Big Con Yeah let's confirm that

Stop Big Con Yeah I got it right here Is it stopbigcon.com Right now we are 12-12-2022 Oh, so you happened to look up the, to, to register big con. Yeah. Let's confirm that. What's the website? Yeah. I got it right here. Is it stopbigcon.com? Right now we are. 12, 12, 2022. So this was, this was registered. Stop big con was registered before he announced he was leaving the blaze.

Is that what it was? Isn't that so weird? He announced he was leaving the blaze on 12th. Well, look guys. And again, Crowder will be here on Monday. He can tell us about all of this. I don't want, I'm not. And then he recorded his conversation with Jeremy two months after that.

I just want to say like, we're, we're we're we're we're in the middle as per usual candace was booked a month and a half ago you know and this whole drama lights up and then uh we talked with crowder uh we we asked him to come on and talk about this so i mean there are so many things that i disagree with daily wire on like so many things this is just not one of them like this is just actually someone's being a bad person and plotting against them. That's it. That's all. That's all this is.

Right. And that's what I want to say. Because like I said before, I've been with the Y for three years. You've never heard me come out and defend them. They're in trouble every other week with a different host for something that they said, something that they haven't said. Ben Shapiro's under fire at least once a week on Twitter. People are angry at him.

They think he's a shill for this. I don't weigh in on anything. This actually, Stephen Crowder's a bad person I was thinking what if they just paid Steven 50 million for his back catalog and then put it on

Daily Wire exclusive and the only way to see Steven is to go to Daily Wire like that would I don't know 50 million would be worth it but four year terms

all his back if you had a lawyer you could negotiate or you could go what if you could go into dailywire.com and then pay 99 cents on a Crowder video

to watch it for the day and then Steven gets half the revenue or something? I mean, there's so many cool things we could do. I mean, I think it would require Steven to just look at the term sheet and then be like, I'd rather do it this way. Here you go. There you go. A conversation. I'm interested to talk to him, Stephen, because I think he's got specific feelings and perspectives on what big tech censorship can do to a content creator that needs to be vocalized for future contract negotiations. I've been concerned about contracts, especially with like perpetuity clauses. Like we own your likeness forever in every universe going forward.

They'll deep fake you and make you say things with deep fakes becoming so realistic. They'll own your face and your name it's crazy we need to get perpetuity clauses for characters out of for personality out of contract i think so right now i want to say this like i don't the daily wire's got a lot of haters and i can certainly understand not liking the daily wire or not liking certain personalities i know people who are like i love claven i don't like ben shapiro yeah i know people who are like i only watch canis i won't watch anybody else i think everyone else is bad and i'm like okay but like that should show that like we don't all agree on everything but daily wire existing is a massive net positive regardless of whether you like what they're doing or not like just again what is a woman was a

massive cultural force and that matters so much we talk about culture and the importance of cultural dominance so much that documentary reached regular people it was so big i mean i i regular people i know we're like oh i saw that thing that was going viral and i'm like hey that's good do more of that i don't got i don't got to go work for him crowder doesn't have to go work for you got work for i should say you guys but for jeremy or anything like that but and that's why it's so crappy to paint a broad stroke you know paint with a broad stroke and say the daily wire is this because you're attacking matt well that's just nothing to do with seeming proud i have nothing to do with steven crowder i have nothing to do with steven crowder and yet you're basically making it seem like we're all plants and that we've done

something wrong and that it's that's deeply upsetting to me it's it's super annoying to me i would like to see people stop saying that company is doing thing because it's people the people are doing the thing with the guise of the company attempting to protect their their person you know their identity but like no companies don't do things people so fair fair point someone mentioned crowder never said the daily wire okay but like the shmaley schmeyer i mean how many freaking all of the context clues were it's like this is the crap the acting of like i'm not gonna say it was but i am gonna make sure you know that it's not the blaze they have a subscription service and that there are live ad reads and that they could afford to put enough money on a contract that i would have a conversation does your character have glasses yeah exactly

like literally this is this is such a ridiculous defense in four seconds you can discern this is about daily wire can't be fox news they don't have live ad reads he already told you that it's not the blaze where does that leave us left with didn't you say that you also recognize the contract fox news well i guess even before he got to it i mean when you say live ad reads a subscription service you can't be fox news because he's already left them and talks trash with them the whole time and they don't do live ad reads right who else could it have been just give me another clue who else could have been prager hugh 501c3 not for profit can't have been them can't can't be give me a person it could have been

so that's what everybody was saying the daily wire yeah so i never said a name it's like what do you think about this i think this was a bad move on a daily wires part that the contract said if you get demonetized there will be a fee but crowder's already demonetized they had i told you they had these same this is why i'm saying this was just a conversation starter they had these same things that made no literally entirely no sense in my contract i was it literally i was like okay is this you guys like the lawyer just like copy and paste this from somebody else's contract like this is, literally I was like, okay, is this, you guys, the lawyer just like copy and pasted this from somebody else's contract. Like,

this is just a conversation starter. Like, they just want you to see the number and go, mm, excited, and bring your lawyers in, right? There were literally things

that were saying, like, I'm not on TikTok. They mentioned my TikTok, they mentioned my Snapchat, and I was like, okay, well,

I'm not on any of these things and I'm never planning on being on them, so we can strike this, strike this, and, you know, and then you add, and then you say,

okay, this one sounds okay, can we include an extra line here? he kind of started this idea that my um my social media channels are controlled literally they had something about access to my twitter took it out i said i will never ever ever my twitter is how i made my entire brand i will never even share a login to my twitter right and my instagram same exact thing so they created a separate instagram which they're allowed to do which has candace owens pod and it instagram same exact thing so they created a separate instagram which they're allowed to do which has candace owens pod and it has its own followers and they release

stuff from the podcast i didn't want to sell my voice you know my social media things it would have been nice for them to have access but it's actually better for them because then they can own that page in perpetuity candace owens podcast because i'm creating content for them so they can share clips into perpetuity of what I have, they have paid for, right? So it's like, that's again, just there, he's pretending that there was something nefarious going on there. I got the same stuff that made no sense. You'd say, just like he said, this makes no sense because I'm already demonetized from YouTube. That was my circumstance for Facebook. I was all, they had a thing about demonetization for Facebook.

My lawyer went back and said, Kansas already demonetized on Facebook. And they went, oh, that's right. Strike it from the clause. You know, for people asking, too, like, yeah, when Crowder comes on, I'm going to let him again say his piece. I'm not, you know, like Candace is giving her perspective, working at the Daily Wire and what. I went through the contract negotiations, so there's no way that he can pretend that there's something missing.

He didn't go through them. He went through term sheet,'t like 140 million dollars wow wow wow i'm going on to youtube i went through the full five month negotiation so there's nothing for me to make up here you know what i mean someone said what have crowder and the daily wire planned this for attention lol now we're talking lol i like that like i love a good conspiracy theory the the jeremy the jeremy boeing response video was recorded december 3rd i love that i don't know look look again i'll say it again cradder's not here to defend himself you know so you know it's on youtube but candace can you

how do you really feel but uh but look man i'll i'll wrap up with this and we'll move on to some big worldly things with like the world economic forum alec baldwin we got to talk about alec baldwin uh i i i look i i negotiated with the daily wire on on like here's what happens you know jeremy comes on the show and he says is there is there anything we can do together and i'm like he's like i know you you do a company and it's not the same as like if we went to any other person and said come work for us and i was like there's probably something we could work out look there's a lot of stuff i don't know and we we're trying to build this thing. We're trying to do X, Y, and Z. We're trying to do cultural stuff. I know you guys are. We talked, we went back and forth. And I said, guys, I don't think there's anything here. And Jeremy was like, I think you're

right. We went over numbers, we went over everything. And the Daily Wire said, what if we did this? And I said, it doesn't work. It doesn't work for what we're doing because we want to do these things and um i'm just going to come out and say this you know i try to keep private details but i said i said jeremy like i might want to buy a billboard that says liz cheney is a fat pig you know what i mean like i know that like the daily and he was and he started laughing and he went well i don't know about that and i'm like look we're we're crazy weirdo rogues what we do at timcast we we want to be be nuts and we want to not not crazy crazy but

we want to just be we're we're not the suits and we're not the corporation but i think what you guys are making is good because your version of the corporation is better than the disney version of the corporation but i'm not the corporation either and i want to make that very clear and that's what annoys me is that people just they have this idea of what the daily wire is and then they try to say that every single host exists on this idea we disagree all the time like there is literally it's hard to find a moment where me and ben cross and agree on things you know what i'm saying and so they paint this thing of like there is no like yes the office is very i don't even go into the office there's a podcast studio that i go into that is smaller than this that i that i operate

within so it just it's very frustrating because people just don't understand yes he is running there's a podcast studio that I go into that is smaller than this that I that I operate within so it just it's very frustrating because people just don't understand yes he is running his business and there is a corporate side of the daily wire and it's annoying to me to have to though answer for people that thinking that that somehow corporatizes canis owens I've been the exact same canis owens from the beginning of my youtube days to now but I'm not trying to imply anything about you or any of the hosts I mean like they they it's it's it's a traditional corporation it's got personalities of varying opinions and like us putting a 95 foot billboard of a rooster and one of the biggest time square billboards makes no sense as a business but it makes sense culturally and it makes sense you know like we we

want to we want to be more shocking and the daily wire wants to beat disney at their game you know we we do to a certain degree but i don't think you know i look i think maybe in 10 years we can have some kind of network that'll have a cultural force that's a good thing i think the daily wire the way it's structured actually is set up to poach the content to poach the executives, to poach the talent from these industries. Of course, that makes you similar in some ways, but the output is corrected. You know what I mean? That's why I like The Daily Wire,

despite not wanting to work for The Daily Wire. But at the end, my thing with Jeremy was like, I don't think there's anything we could do transactionally, but there's a lot we can do culturally for fun. And so we're actually working on some stuff. And the same same thing is true like you know i talk to crowder all the time about well i shouldn't say all the time but periodically we talk about culture war issues you know what needs to be done what we can do we've talked about the stuff that ian's working on with a decentralized network yeah i got a new company uh relatively new called uh inverted

technologies and we're building like basically what Patreon attempted to do or didn't quite get right. But you basically upload, you download a packet, software packet, you load the application. You can upload videos to a server of your choice, one that you have at your house. You can upload it to Rumble. And then you can get your, all these people can pay 10 bucks a month, whatever you want, different tiers of payments to get access to that content. And later, as we build this out, it's going to have search algorithms where you can find other people other content creators that are using it and create a network where everyone owns their own stuff and you can't you can't be banned

the idea is like your website can also have a recommended section of similar content and you as the website owner so like let's say we did timcast.com and we joined this network. You will see in the recommended tab, Steven Crowder. I could go, look, I don't want, you know,

he's a competitor and I don't like his opinion, so I'm going to say on my website, he can't appear, but he's not banned from the network. Just my personal site. So basically, you create a decentralized. That's awesome.

The idea would be, you launch, you buy your own server time space or you make your own server. You buy your own domain and then you download the package, you buy your own server time space or you make your own server. You buy your own domain and then you download the package, install it on your server and you instantly have your own Patreon.

That connects to the network of all the other people using it for recommendation reasons because the recommendation is the real driver of so much of everyone's, of people. If you make good content and you make a lot of it and it rises to the top, people will see it and that's the machine that needs to happen. But when YouTube bans you outright, You make good content and you make a lot of it and it rises to the top. People will see it.

And that's the machine that needs to happen. But when YouTube bans you outright, you're gone from the grid. When they shadow ban you, you're gone from the grid. This way, you can't do this. So anyway, I've talked about stuff like that and I want to see him succeed. I would prefer that the conflict, the arguing or whatever wasn't happening. But look, I talked to Steven. I genuinely believe that he thinks Daily Wire is a net negative in the space. I don't think he's doing this for money.

You're entitled to your opinion. I understand your perspective. I've talked to him about it, and he said that these kinds of contracts are – I'll paraphrase my understanding. The old guard system created the problems whatever we're building has to be new and it has to be different it has to be better and it's funny because when I do deals with people I joke that I'm a communist and that's why they're getting such

good terms when I talk with Jeremy Boring I'm like this guy's a businessman who's trying to make sure no one can stab him in the back the fact is I think Steven Crowder doesn't know this because he hasn't started a business but I've been stabbed in the back. The fact is, I think Steven Crowder doesn't know this because he hasn't started a business, but I've been stabbed in the back like 73 times. And it sucks every time.

And I lose money every time. And my safety is threatened every time. But, you know, like I jokingly say, I'm a communist, so blah, blah, blah. I'm not literally. But what I'm trying to convey by that is I'm still willing to over extend myself if it means we're going to get better people.

And that's the system I'm going to build. I don't fault the Daily Wire for running their business the way businesses run. I like the content the Daily Wire produces. I just won't be there when they produce it. Wonderful. You're a free market capitalist. Your idea is that if you believe that you have something better or you can do something better, you create the something better. And then you take out the old guys.

I mean, is that a foreign concept? Has this become a foreign concept like do we have to all be so nasty to me i just don't get it because i've never since i've gotten into politics i've never understood the mentality that you need to step on someone's head to go where like oh i just need to step on this person's head so that i can move upstream it's like why don't you learn to swim if you want to go upstream you know why don't you learn to swim if you want to go upstream? Why don't you learn to swim and tread some water if you want to go upstream? What is this? For a little bit of, ooh, I'm going to burn friendships,

you keep calling them your friend. It doesn't make any sense to me. I'll say my final thought on this, I suppose. And then again, Crowder will be here on Monday. We'll have a conversation from his perspective. Yo, if you're going to stop anybody, I don't understand why going after The Daily Wire is the first target. Even if The Daily Wire was doing these really awful contracts, or I should

say they're doing term sheets, they're doing contracting in ways you don't like, I still think it's like, well, okay, well, at least they made What Is A Woman? Let's focus on Disney and Netflix. Netflix has done a bunch of pedo stuff. You know what I mean? The Daily Wire is just not a concern for me. If I was going to come out and be like, 49% of the business dealings of Daily Wire I don't like, but 51% is good. Then I'd be like,

I'll take that 1% and I'll focus on Netflix doing weird pedo crap. But I actually think that Daily Wire is much better than that. I just, it's not my kind of business style. So,

you know, I hope Crowder just does his thing and succeeds. And I think it's simple. You know, if it were me and I really did see the Daily Wire as a net negative, I'll put it's simple. You know, if it were me, and I really did see The Daily Wire as a net negative,

I'll put it this way. I mean, I talk about Disney all the time. I say, I don't expect you to abandon your Disney subscriptions because they have flubber. They have movies you know and love. I just hope to build a better website that eventually produces enough to where you say, I'd rather not have Disney.

That's my strategy. But again, guys, I'm the milquetoast fence setter. I'm the reformer, not a revolutionary. I'm not going to come out, smash a ball on the ground and be like, I will stand for nothing. I'm going to sit here and I'm going to do the math. I'm going to go, Daily Wire is doing pretty good. I might not like that, but that's good for us. So, okay, where's our net problem?

I'm much more slow paced and calculating than that. I think if the Daily Wire succeeds, we all succeed. And then when Disney's gone, when Netflix is gone, when Amazon Prime is gone, assuming, and the Daily Wire's the only one, then we can start saying,

Daily Wire, you do better deals with your employees. And then the Daily Wire's gonna be like, either do it or don't. My take is I'm glad the conversation's happening. I think that Jeremy and Steven have seen each other as friends is important because sometimes it's easiest to criticize your your friends it's easier to criticize your friends than people that might go sue you and don't have any connection to you at all and and that daily wire is gaining a lot of steam and becoming larger and larger so if there really are problems with

the contracts or the terms uh off the bat it's important that they know that right away from people with you know large levels of influence i gotta we definitely gotta move on because we gotta talk about alec baldwin but two special shout outs shout out to hassan the hun he said on twitter i can't get over steven crowder having his 50 million dollar pay docked for getting banned if he does too much racism when he's being hired by the daily wire to do blackface and every other flavor of bigotry hassan's obviously joking i thought it was a really really funny tweet i think it's funny getting hired to do blackface and then uh seth dylan of the babylon b he won the day i love seth

i love seth he said i didn't want to make this video i wanted to take a nap but my hand was forced and then he he makes this video where he was like the daily wire thought steven crowder was talking about them how cute it was really really funny so shout out i thought those were funny but let's talk about alec baldwin so uh we're we're gonna revisit the crowd of stuff Steven Crowder was talking about them, how cute. It was really, really funny. So shout out. I thought those were funny. But let's talk about Alec Baldwin. So we're going to revisit the Crowder stuff, obviously, because we have 50 billion super chats about it. And I just want to let everyone know that YouTube deletes the super chats after a certain amount of money.

So we can only go back to like, there's a bunch. But I'll read them. And the current poll says, who is right, Crowder or I'm sorry, who is right, Crowder or DW? 74% say Crowder, 26% say Daily Wire. But let's talk about Alec Baldwin. We have this story from Vanity Fair. Let me just say at the start of this segment, ladies and gentlemen,

I believe I called it. And I had people telling me I was crazy and telling me I was wrong. He's being charged with, he's going to be charged with involuntary manslaughter. So is the armorer. Another guy, the assistant director, I think, took a plea bargain, plea deal for negligent discharge of a firearm. But let me tell you why I said I called it.

There's a very important part in this story that I will pull up right here. Vanity Fair says, in addition to the bullet that killed Hutchins, well, I'm sorry, let me slow down. Alec Baldwin, as you know, about a year ago, was on the set of a movie called Rust. He was using a real gun in the filming, aimed it at the cinematographer during filming, pulled the hammer back, pulled the trigger, shooting her in the chest, penetrating her body and hitting another guy in the shoulder. Everybody was arguing whether it was an accident. How could the bullet have gotten the gun? I made the argument that we had learned. Alec Baldwin was in a dispute. I should say the execs of the movie production, the higher-ups, which includes Alec Baldwin, were in dispute with the crew.

The crew was threatening to walk off set. There was animosity. Alec Baldwin said he was friends with her. Then he said they weren't friends. They didn't know each other. He had a dinner with her. Sounded said they weren't friends. They didn't know each other. He had a dinner with her. Sounded like they were friends. Or was it negotiations?

He also said in an interview that she was very forceful. I can't remember the word he used. And she kept telling him to do things over and over again. It sounded like he was venting frustrations. About Helena. About Helena. Oh, I didn't know that. Right.

And so I said, that sounds to me like motive. Motive. What is it? Your crew is threatening to walk off set, costing you money, and Helena Hutchins was doing what cinematographers aren't supposed to do,

giving you direction. That he seemed annoyed by, my personal opinion, but it's something he expressed. Opportunity. He had a gun, a real gun, that was supposed to be pointed,

not at a human being. This is against the rules in any movie set. You never point a gun at a person no matter what. This is against the rules in any movie set you never point a gun at a person no matter what well against the rules ever always in shooting like unless you're intending to destroy it right and hunting lied and said he never pulled the trigger just went off that's impossible it was a single action revolver hammer has to be pulled back trigger has to be pulled get this vanity fair reports in addition to the bullet that killed hutchins investigators found

five additional live rounds of ammunition mingled among the movie's props and costumes Vanity Fair reports, Baldwin. And a fifth was found in a box of dummy ammo. Entirely possible. With Gutierrez-Reed's fingerprints on it, they say. It's entirely possible someone mistook the live ammo that was lying around for dummies, put them in the box, Hannah Gutierrez-Reed pulled the dummy rounds out of the box, didn't realize, loaded the gun, and that's what happened. Entirely possible.

But when you factor all these things together, Alec Baldwin had live ammo on his belt? Had the gun, pointed it at her, and shot and killed her. I don't understand how anybody would argue that it's more likely it was an accident when it's like he was mad at her because of the crew walk-offs, potentially. He pointed the gun at her. He shot her. And he had live ammo on his person. So it's like, if we were going to ask someone, Occam's razor, in the absence of evidence,

the solution that makes the least amount of assumptions tends to be the correct one. How did the bullets get in the gun? Well, you see what happened was somebody was doing target practice with the gun and they left bullets outside. One day, a crew member was cleaning up the bullets and didn't realize they were alive so they put them back in the box. The box was in place in the cabinet. Hannah Gutierrez Reid, not realizing this, grabbed the box,

opened it up, pulled the bullets out, put them in the gun, handed it to the AD who didn't check it and then handed it to Alec Baldwin who didn't check it and then it went off on accident.

Or, Alec Baldwin didn't like the lady, took a bullet from his own belt that had bullets in it and shot her. Which one is the conspiracy theory and which one is the simple solution sorry man i just he had a bullet on his belt okay that's there were live bullets

found all over the place or like five of them makes me gives me some reasonable doubt that maybe he didn't know what was he wasn't the one that was ring leading this that someone went in there and also i do agree that he didn't like helena hutchins i felt like she was probably playing the alpha role and he felt emasculated he's like i'm supposed to but he she was treating him like an actor you're doing what i say get this done we're doing the shot he's like i'm the i'm the producer i'm in charge so he was like bang bang you're dead like a petulant child bang bang yeah like playing cowboys and indians when he was a little single bang yeah bang and he's like just fantasizing about killing her and and it turned out there someone

had loaded his gun yeah i mean i want to be clear he's not being tried for murder he's like just fantasizing about killing her and it turned out that someone had loaded his gun. Yeah, I mean, I want to be clear. He's not being tried for murder. He's being tried for manslaughter. So they have felt that after examining the evidence that he did this by accident. And what you're alleging is that maybe it wasn't so much of an accident and he actually didn't like her. I can't get over the fact that he pointed the gun

at a human being. It's so important to say this is not a rule on set. This is a rule always. And maybe in New York City where people don't know anything about guns, he knows a thing or two about guns. He's been in plenty of movies. I mean, it doesn't really know.

I cannot go over the fact that he did not know that you should never under any circumstances, unless you are actually actively trying to kill a human that walked in, you know, broke into your homes, attacking your children. Do you ever point a gun, whether it is loaded or completely empty, at a human being? Ever. Literally, if you're walking through the forest and you're about to go on a hunt, you never ever, not even in joke, in jest, ever,

are supposed to even put, you're supposed to keep it down at all times, right? Treat every firearm like it's loaded. That is just a known rule. I even point imaginary guns down when I'm pretending to be a guy with a gun. Yeah, he knew that. There's just no way that he didn't know that.

But look what the media said. The media ran to his defense. They were saying that... He is the media. Right. They came out and they were like, it was a horrible, tragic accident. And they didn't bother asking any questions. They didn't bother investigating.

And if we had a fair media from the get-go the first thing that should have happened is there was fighting on the set alec baldwin was unhappy extremely frustrated he is known for having a temper he's crazy he's known for striking people screaming his own daughter called him like a fat pig and like he's crazy this man is obviously unhinged he's completely and utterly unhinged there's no question but it doesn't matter actually in hollywood if you're unhinged the better's no question, but it doesn't matter. Actually, in Hollywood, if you're unhinged, the better, right? Chrissy Teigen, Alec Baldwin. These people have told you a thousand times that they are mentally unstable, angry people.

And yet the media goes, ah, he's funny. Let's put him on. They celebrate. They prop them up all the time, especially the more crazier that they are, the more the media loves them, which is actually a perfect representation. He was also very outspoken against gun rights activists. And now here he is in this particular situation. Now, I don't know what happened here. We're going to, you know, a lot of people are speculating.

Let's see what's going to happen through this court case. You know, obviously, if this happened to a random Joe Schmo, there would have been charges a lot quicker. The fact that there wasn't charges and the fact that there was so long, so much time in between this is, you this is a little fishy. But let's see what happens in the court of law. Let's see what happens with the evidence. Let's see who changed their story, who tried to cover something up because there's multiple stories.

There's multiple things. We don't know what happened. Let's wait and see. Are there more charges or is this the only charge? There's two charges the jury can choose from. One is five years in prison mandatory. And I think he gets it. Check this out.

He should get it. They say the first charge is simple involuntary manslaughter. For this to be proved, there must be underlying negligence. Under New Mexico law, involuntary manslaughter is a fourth degree felony

punishable by up to 18 months in jail and a $5,000 fine. It includes the misdemeanor charge of negligent use of a firearm. Seems like a slap on the wrist. The other charge is involuntary manslaughter in the commission of a lawful act. This charge requires proof

that there was more than simple negligence involved in the death. It's also a fourth degree felony punishable by up to 18 months in jail and a $5,000 fine. However, this charge includes a firearm enhancement or added mandatory penalty

because a firearm was involved. The firearm enhancement makes the crime punishable by a mandatory five years in jail. Based on the official narrative, Alec Baldwin should get the mandatory minimum. I'm not a fan of mandatory minimums, and I don't think justice will be served necessarily by sending Alec Baldwin to prison for five years. But based on the laws it stands, I'll tell you why I think he should go to jail for five years. Negligence. He was running the show. He was the producer.

They were using the gun from the movie to shoot real bullets. They knew there were negligent discharges on set. That is, that says to me that they say it requires more than simple negligence. Simple negligence, in my opinion, and maybe it's a legal term, so maybe I'm wrong, but my opinion on this is, if someone, unbeknownst to Alec Baldwin, was using live bullets, I'd say, look, Alec, he should have had,

he should have known where that gun was at all times. Someone should have been in charge. So maybe it's not his fault that this happened. But he knew there were negligent discharges. Now it's not just simple negligence. Now it's him being like, there's something more there. You mean that, and I think you're saying that prior to that negligent discharge, there were previous negligent discharges on set.

And he knew. So he knew that there were some mistakes happening. And you would think that after the first mistake, and you go, oh, great, nobody died. You would go, let great, nobody died, you would go, let's make sure that we button this up as I am the producer of this. Right. We need to button this up.

And again, I cannot say it a thousand times over, if you're trying to present the case for the prosecution here, you're just going to say, how many times has Alex been in a movie where there have been guns fired? He knows this protocol.

He knows that you do not point a gun whether it is loaded or not at another human being. Not only pointing, pointing would be negligent. By the way, if he had hit her and it was a fake round he would be negligent forget i mean pointing it is you just you just don't pull the trigger and point it and then pull the trigger and the last thing i want to say is that i think that in terms of the publicity surrounding this if he had instantly come out and said this is we are so we feel so horrified we are so sorry i i'm just devastated by this i'm

just going away forever like he was he has acted the part of such arrogance right anytime anybody asked a question he was angry how dare you i'm alec baldwin like the way that he has acted after this as if he's done nothing wrong i mean the first thing that his statement he rushes to make after these charges is total and complete miscarriage of justice. It is this pompous nature that is really, for me, the nail in the coffin. And if I'm on that jury, I am moving to convict. This is why I think,

honestly, I don't know if I would, but let me say this. The reason I say the five years in prison, just to elaborate, he knew there were negligent discharges. Now you can argue, well, but it was simple negligence that he didn't correct that mistake, that he didn't lock things down.

That's what negligence is. Aha, yes. Then he picked the gun up, pointed at her, and pulled the trigger. Right. So you want to talk about simple negligence, it would be the producer on set, not Alec Baldwin, who knew there were discharges and did nothing to correct that problem. He's responsible. Oh, he pleaded.

He took a plea bargain for a negligent discharge of weapon. Alec Baldwin knew there was live ammo on set, had live ammo on his person, decided to take the gun knowing this, pointed at a woman, and pull the trigger. Now, come on. I would actually argue murder. Like, passion, homicide, lower degree. But we don't have it, right? At the very least. At the very least, you have to move to convict on the charges. argue murder like passion homicide lower degree we don't have it right so you would have at the very least you have to move to convict on the charges and i can't see how a jury outside of

being an alec baldwin fan does not actually move to convict him yeah actually i'll i'm gonna change my what i just said i want to clarify i think you're right if i was in the jury and they said you know mandatory five years in jail i might nullify that but agree with him being charged i don't like mandatory minimums. I don't think justice is served by sending them to prison for five years. Like a year, like five years is not going to change what happened. It's not going to change Alec Baldwin. I think it would change Alec Baldwin.

Well, you're right. It would change him. I just don't think it would actually like. He's a very angry, erratic, unstable man. And I think some time alone in a cell with another big guy. The five years is a really long time. They got yoga. They probably went to a nice prison.

I think that, yeah, it's a long enough time that it could change him. Well, a lot of celebrities are just totally out of touch. A lot of them are egomaniacs. They're out of touch. A lot of them are just sociopaths. And as soon as this happened, he tried to, of course, put blame on anyone else but him. The first thing he said is, quote, someone is responsible, but I know it is not me.

Yeah, that's a horrible thing. Imagine you're this family. This is somebody's mother. I mean, think about this. It's horrible. The emotional trauma of this guy basically being like, I know I was going to prison, but we know it ain't me. Exactly.

And talking about this, he kind of alluded that he's the second victim here. Out of all of this, especially with some of the statements that he was making afterwards which is absolutely just delusional which shows you this kind of out of touch reality perspective that a lot of these very powerful people that are empowered

by this seedy I would even say satanic entertainment industry the people that prop up are some of the worst human beings on the face of this earth and sometimes they do deserve a big reality check and I think this is maybe, but they're so far in the weeds, maybe could provide that.

Speaking of some of the worst human beings on the earth, we have this story about Al Gore. Fox News says, Al Gore mocked as a clown for Davos rant on rain bombs, boiling oceans, and apocalyptic preacher. Jimmy Filo reacts to Gore's climate warnings on fox and friends so you guys see this uh when we and you know al gore basically goes off saying that like

he like it was a really unhinged rant i mean bro look i criticized alex jones a while a while several years ago because he went on i it was it was an old thing i remember seeing him on c-span or something and they were like oh oh, it's Alex Jones. And then he immediately just turns to the camera and goes, people listen, they're coming for you. And I'm like, but I'm like, when I show that to my mom, they immediately just be like, this guy's nuts.

It's like, so you got to take the opportunity and approach people on their own terms. On his own show, I think he's great when he goes off. Al Gore, wanting to warn people of a billion climate refugees going, the world's going to end. It's going to be raining bombs. The oceans are going to boil and our homes are going to sink. I'm like, OK, they crazy man, you know, calm down, go to sleep, let the adults talk. He's talking.

What he says is if there's a billion migrants all of a sudden that chaos will ensue. And he's right. But what he's saying is that there will be a billion migrants. So that's the thing where like, I mean, what's the evidence, Al? You said 20 years ago that what, the world was ending in 10? Or that we had 10 years to correct it. No, no, he said the ice caps are going to be melting by 2013 or something. Yeah, and they should be because we're exiting an ice age.

The population was going to decline. It's actually gone up since he made these predictions. We're still in an ice age according to, I think it's Utah State. People, because of the flood 13,000 years ago, 12,000, when the meteors impacted North America and this giant global flood, it looks like we're not in an ice age because the ice melted, but we're still in the ice age. Just having this preliminary amount of it melted, it's all going to melt. It's supposed to.

That's why the earth is pouring iron into itself through the river of blood in Antarctica. It's getting ready to fertilize for all this new freshwater that's coming into it. And we're pulling carbon out of the air. Dude, we got the graphene revolution on the horizon. This weirdo is like shaking about too much horse poop on the ground in 1900. And there are a lot of solutions to a lot of the larger ecological and pollution problems that the world is dealing with, except for the real solutions are just being pushed away. No one's really talking about those issues. But when it comes to taxing people, regulating people, controlling their life, micromanaging every aspect of them,

putting them in little eco-friendly, sustainable neighborhoods that you can't leave and you can only walk and bike around 15 minutes anywhere in one direction, when it comes to that, yeah, they love that. And when it comes to Al Gore, he said in 2009 that the North Pole would be ice-free in the summer of 2013.

I don't think that happened there, buddy. I think you were a little bit wrong. This guy's a grifter. This guy's a shill. And it's important to note here, he made $330 million off of his green investment firm ever since losing to George W. Bush. There's a lot of money in this grift.

There's a lot of money in fear mongering. And he knows this grift is being exposed. So he has to step it up. He has to make this emotional trauma, this larger sigh up as crazy as they can. So then Deutsche Bank, Bank of America that were at Davos, they were also talking at the same time during this conference about, you know, we need we need to do all of our business based on carbon emissions. We need to reboot capitalism. We need a social credit score based on carbon.

We need to make sure everyone is reporting their own personal carbon. This is nothing to do with the environment. This is everything to do with the subjugation of the human race. And it's plain as day. Big money, big interest, big power trying to control you. Sorry, Tim, you had something to say. I was going to say that what the left will come out and do is they'll say, no, no, no, no. Al Gore was right 20 years ago when he said it would be ice free by 2013.

But then we took action on climate change and it stopped it from happening. That actually proves Al Gore was right the whole time. I mean, I just would like to shout out. I do not know this person at all, but a book, if you have a child that you want to make aware of the climate scam, which you are absolutely correct about this subjugation of humanity, such an easy book, very short read.

It's called Inconvenient Facts and it's written by Gregory Whitestone and it will awake you to the fact that the IPCC is just a corrupt industry. Every single model that they ever have put out is wrong and they rely on people not understanding just how old the earth is and that it goes through coldness. I mean, there was a medieval warming period followed by a freeze. I mean, there's just they're trying to actually make you think that weather is something to be fearful of and that these things don't naturally happen like forest fires.

They just naturally happen. They've always happened to the beginning of time. Things get hot. I just came back from South Africarica while we were there just temperature hits in africa the bush burns and it's a good thing that it burns and so people they rely on the ignorance of people that are widely emotional which is why they start this sort of brainwash when you are in high school when you are in middle school if there's always a different scare and they've been wrong every time so if you still believe that there are some element of truth to

this just go talk to people in different generations and tell them what their big scare was i was generation global warming we saw had to watch a sad movie of polar bears drowning and were told that there were going to be no polar bears left in fact polar population has gone up since inconvenient facts generation before us they were told the exact opposite that it was going to be global cooling they were all going to freeze to death and then they were like oh got that one wrong so we're going to change the global warming there was the ozone layer the whole remember the hole in the ozone layer we're all going to freeze to death. And then they were like, oh, got that one wrong because we're going to change to global warming. There was the ozone layer. Remember the hole in the ozone layer?

We're all going to die. And then, oops, whoopsies, that didn't happen. There was acid rain scare where kids were taught that the oceans were going to become so acidic and it was going to rain from the sky. And now it looks like, guys, it's promising.

We're moving on to rain bombs. Bundle up and buy a good umbrella. I'm going to start selling umbrella, rain bomb umbrellas. To be fair on the ozone thing, we literally did ban the CFCs or whatever. Yeah. So the ozone thing we literally did ban the the cfcs or whatever yeah so the ozone the ozone floral carbons yeah the ozone thing was like hey if we keep using these what is like ppc polyfluorocarbon i think it was all in the deodorants and hairsprays and

then they got rid of it yeah that's a nuanced argument to understand that but they've been trying to use this kind of fear-mongering environmental yeah and it's all about saying we need policies we need the the Paris Accord Agreement. What we need to fix these things, if you're really scared, is more of your money. Yeah, I was going to say, Candice, but you don't understand. If we give the government more money, the weather will be gooder. Yeah, the weather will be gooder.

That's the basic principle that they work on because there are actual things that we should address when it comes to this climate, when it comes to our environment, when it comes to pollution, especially when it comes from the developing world, especially when it comes from this climate, when it comes to our environment, when it comes to pollution, especially when it comes from the developing world, especially when it comes from China dumping all of the plastic that Canada shipped to them. There's also

a lot of waste, a lot of destruction because of war. And there's so much hypocrisy at the World Economic Forum. Not just them flying on their private jets with record emissions, record number of jets, estimated 1,100 jets flying in there. But these are the same individuals that almost in the same breath are like, we need to make

sure that there's not a peace deal with Ukraine and Russia. That's what the UN secretary said at Davos this year. And in the same breath, they're like, but we need to make sure the environment's good. One of the biggest polluters is, of course, the military industrial complex. And they're cheering it on. They're calling for more war. They're trying to deny every kind of peace deal. They're trying to prolong it.

And this is the worst thing that you could possibly be doing. Well, that's because they need more money. Exactly. They need the grift to keep going. It's all about money. Everything is always about money. And it's the same people destroying the environment

that are coming to you saying, just give us more money and we'll fix the environment. In reality, those solutions do not work and create more problems. And they fly private when they talk about it. It's very important to get on your private jet to discuss Ukraine and also climate and everything doesn't make sense when it's put together.

It doesn't matter because don't pay attention because you're supposed to be ignorant and not realize that literally all they want is money. So they launch a new war and ruin the climate at the same time they're telling you that you've got to give them more money so they can save the climate. I mean, it's stunning to me.

And people that get behind these initiatives over and over and over again if you're really trying to discern what big con is go find the people that back the military industrial complex go find the people that put a little ukraine flag and told you that this was your duty to go out and defend ukraine to ask no questions about president zelensky who shut down that speech i find that to be absolutely ridiculous i gotta give a shout out to dc drano who called kevin m Kevin McCarthy, Kievan, you, Karthi. I have a key. Oh, yeah.

He would be like a pin. Yeah. Like a yeah. Like a pin and a flag. Another country's flag. I mean, I that to me, if you want a marker of what real big con is, go find out who supports Ukraine and to this day is still backing Ukraine from day one. I was like, this is so obviously the military industrial complex.

This makes no sense. We know it's a corrupt country we know that it washes laundry don't believe me take it from the new york times and washington post five years ago and they highlighted all of his ties to oligarchs we installed a new government and we intentionally went to war because they launder our money and of course hunter biden and president we have to get everybody home takes one breath tomorrow we're going to be in Ukraine. I mean, it's such obvious foolishness at this point, and that there are people that are in our movement, pretending that they're, whether America first, or if they

care about, you know, what's happening to this country, and then they support Ukraine. Like, goodbye, dude. Goodbye. How do you support this? And then there's FTX, right, that was working with the World Economic Forum, that was working with the Bank of Ukraine, that was laundering money, not only to, of course, high-level Democrats, but also Republicans.

All those politicians right now, give back the people's money. I don't understand why our justice system is not intervening in the FTX scandal and saying, hey, Mr. Biden, or Mr. Crenshaw, or Mr. whoever, you got this money. This money was actually stolen from clients.

Let's make sure we give it back. Why can't we have that conversation right now? Did Crenshaw or Mr. Whoever, you got this money. This money was actually stolen from clients. Let's make sure we give it back. Why can't we have that conversation right now? Did Crenshaw return it? I don't know if Crenshaw actually got the money. I'm just naming a politician here. So I don't know if it's Liz Cheney. I don't know who it is. But there was a fair amount of money, mostly given to Democrats, some to Republicans as well.

Whoever got that money, it was all through shadowy secret kind of black money that was given through different PAC packs and different organizations in order to kind of launder it specifically. But there should be a national conversation right now being like, hey, people were robbed. Let's give their money back right now. That money is in the hands of corrupted politicians right now that were doing the bidding of corrupted organizations like FTX that the World Economic Forum endorsed and then deleted their endorsement of and tried to hit it away from the internet as they were promoting this larger ponzi scam that stole people's money which is absolutely insane i would advocate letting sam beckman free go free if he can pay back the 10 billion and i know he can't let him go free they'll kill him he's no two you know like have you been following how many

crypto billionaires he's a drugged up puppet it's just insane i mean it's insane they're dropping like flies i covered it on my show i mean the mysterious death of all of these crypto billion and millionaires what about that guy who who tweeted like they're they're running an entire money laundering thing in puerto rico right off of epstein island 2.0 it's a pedophile ring blah blah blah and he said they're gonna kill me he literally died four hours later found in the ocean with full clothes on in his wallet guess he just went for a swim and ended up with a bullet in the back of his head exactly

like literally within four hours what death by suicide it's insane I covered it all on my show and he literally said they're gonna kill me and it's always the same

they just it's a mysterious drowning and it's in Puerto Rico he was in the Caribbean when this happened four hours later after his last tweet

he was dead and he's one of five I think five or six critical billionaires that have died in the last two years under these unbelievably mysterious circumstances I mean if you haven crypto billionaires that have died in the last two years under these unbelievably mysterious circumstances.

I mean, if you haven't listened to that episode of my show, just to kind of shout myself out, it's actually the most popular episode that I've released recently. It's called The Mysterious Death of Crypto Billionaires. It's insane. It's insane. And that is what we should be talking about.

There's something very dangerous going on and to your credit, way more important than anything we're talking about with Steven Crowder. But that is, I mean, it's... It's around the world. It's everywhere. Let's jump to the story from TimCast.com. European Commission VP says U.S. will soon impose hate speech laws.

And it seems like a simple statement, and it's easy to shrug off, but going to the bigger context, in the previous segment, we're talking about these evil people, their plans. You got Brian Stelter sitting on stage with these people, and they say, soon the U.S. will make hate speech illegal. To them, hate speech is opinions they disagree with. Hate speech is disinformation. And what's happening is these Davos elite types are infiltrating big tech. They're infiltrating elements of the government, and they're imposing these insane rules not through law. I don't necessarily know if anytime soon they'll make it illegal.

They'll make it impossible. Said a bad word, as everybody knows, your car won't start. You can't buy, your credit card gets turned off. We've already seen it happen. How many people have been debanked? Bad opinions? No more bank for you that's insane yeah so these are the people who are meeting in these big event and these big meetings

they're bringing people like brian stelter they're bringing democrat politicians to sit down and say they want to control what you see think and hear yeah joe mansion uh was at davos making arguments against the open press right like what's wrong with what's wrong with the freaking open press tony blair was openly talking about we need a an international vaccine passport system where we track people's medical records and allow them to go places and not places there's another their heart attacks exactly yes uh yeah i could say a lot more uh about that particularly there was also another member of a big tech company talking about how he welcomes the fbi involvement with uh specifically cloudflare the ceo of cloudflare came out and says that he welcomes guidance from the

fbi so so so there's a reason why the fbi director also attends davos as well there's there's there's a reason why they have a lot of public meetings, but they also have a lot of secret meetings as well. And obviously one hand, what's the saying here? One hand washes the other hand here. And there's a collective interest here of a lot of these powerful power brokers essentially just saying, you know, you help me, I help you, but we're going to make sure that we come out on top when we get to essentially take all of people's liberties and financial freedoms away from them. And that's the game here. That's the con here. It's clear as day.

And they're using these kind of bland, generalized language to get away with it. Well, the reason they get away with it more importantly, though, and this is why the most important conversation when people say, what do we do to correct it? It's the education battle. Because the reason is because there are two, we're producing too many stupid people, right? Who cannot think through these policies. And this is when you go,

what is happening on college campuses? Why are we having debates about, why are there gender studies majors? This is a true fact. We've never given out more degrees in America ever. And yet we've never produced dumber kids. I mean, literally dumber kids i mean literally dumber kids i'm talking about if you sat them down with an iq test these kids are actually dumb

so how is that possible that should run in conflict with one another how are we giving the most degrees you're producing the dumbest kids because it's a concert effort by the government because they understand you want to talk about real slavery slaves i wrote this in my book another free pitch for myself blackout um i wrote this in my book but Oh, another free pitch for myself. Blackout. I wrote this in my book, but my thesis is that what they're basically doing is modernizing the slave plantation, right? You can't now take people into chains, but what was one element of the slave plantation?

Well, it was that slaves weren't allowed to learn how to read. These were called slave codes. So what better way than to make people think that they're learning how to read, but they're learning nothing. They're learning, be scared the planet's gonna be dead in 10 years.

Men can be women, women can be men. I have a degree. I'm so smart. So they come out super arrogant convinced they know everything and they quite literally if you dropped them off in the forest they'd all be dead in a week right they literally know nothing this is all a part of the big plan right the idea is to produce dumb people intentionally and think about this we hear from people like bill gates and a lot of these davos types where it's you know we got to reduce population growth Gates and a lot of these Davos types where it's, you know, we got to reduce population growth. We see a lot of actions taken that not only reduce population, but also stagnate the economy.

Think about what happens if you've got someone who works in a foundry. You know, they're like, you know, they're making, let's just say, let's just say widgets. They're smelting metal and doing all that stuff. And then along comes a college grad with a degree in gender studies. Adding a DEI specialist to the foundry serves only one purpose. It slows the economic activity. It causes internal conflict, which damages their ability to produce.

Either the United States is being destroyed for this reason, or with this tactic, or it is inadvertently being destroyed by this tactic. This is where gender studies and Black Lives Matter and the race initiatives lock arms, right? Oh, now you should hire talent based on the color of their skin. Where's your diversity and inclusion department?

What is that doing, right? It's counterintuitive to the free market. It's counterintuitive to businesses that are growing and becoming productive as a hire people that know absolutely nothing. But I got to have this whole department with 10 people that are hired because one's black, one's gay.

And that means that I'm a good business and people are losing money because this is this obviously this is not a sound economic model and so there is this is much more Machiavellian people say that the left is stupid oh they think men yeah the people that listen to the left you may you can maybe challenge it they're actually not even stupid they're brainwashed it's not really their fault like brainwash is real propaganda is real it has real effects especially when it's taking place in the classroom where they're spending six hours a day they're not even stupid they're brainwashed you should you should sympathize rather than call them stupid but the people at the top that are that are producing this that are that want this to happen

this is machiavellian these people are are insane they're psychopaths and they know exactly what they're doing that's what something i thought while you were saying explaining earlier is that what's more dangerous than having a group of uneducated people is having a group of miseducated people that have been educated for nefarious purposes because it's harder to untrain the brain than it is to give it something new. my gosh the number one thing that the left says to me is well you didn't even graduate college that's that's okay so let me get the street i'm i'm doing better than you i have a larger audience but you have a little paper degree so they go out and those people then get really angry because they try that degree in a free market society they have no success and they become bitter angry resentful perfect little leftists that will march in the street talking about how this entire system needs to be burned to the ground because how do they not become successful when they have

a degree you know you know i like to say when because because they do this to me all the time they'll tweet like yeah see this proves tim's a high school dropout or don't listen to me high school dropout you drop out of high school yeah and my response is your high school diploma and five bucks and five bucks will get you a cup of coffee. It should be $3, but thanks to the way you voted, it's now $5 for the cup of coffee. But it's their number one thing. It gives them this inflated ego. They actually think, even though their entire life tells them they're a remarkable failure, but I have a degree.

It's like my guy. Oh, okay. Be humble. You know what I mean? Look, I don't expect everybody in the world to be a millionaire. I don't expect everybody to have a six-figure salary. If you're somebody who works an honest job and says, you know, look, I did everything they told me to do. If someone came to me and said, look, man, I went to college.

I got my degree. I worked really hard. And I make $35,000 a year as an administrative assistant. I'd be like, you know, look, man, I'll try and give you some advice and help you out. You know, just be humble. Like, you know, we're trying to help you out I don't think it's society's fault I'm sorry, I don't think it's the individual's fault

that they were lied to by the machine and tricking them into getting student loan debts and all that stuff but if you come out and you're like I'm so much smarter than you because I finished high school I make $30,000 a year I'll be like, my guy please you just say, yes you are

yes you are what's right yes you are almost hey what the rockefeller family did when it came to shaping modern education was pretty smart was pretty brilliant they made a lot of good factory workers that regurgitate and repeat everything they're told to repeat they follow all their orders they make sure that they get the job done for the boss and what what else did you think which brings us to big pharma if you're going to talk about rockefeller you can you can you have to happen? Which brings us to Big Pharma. If you're going to talk about Rockefeller, you have to mention Big Pharma, right? You literally have doctors

that are graduating Harvard right now. I covered this on my podcast this week. They are graduating Harvard and they believe that children are born with the ability to pick their gender. I mean, like they're talking about infants right now. I covered this on my show. Infants, they believe, have within them,

possess within them the knowledge to know that they're in the wrong body right i have an infant an infant knows absolutely nothing we know but this is these people now are convinced that they're brighter than you because they're a doctor and they became a doctor because they graduated from harvard and i you i'm like you i know you went to university you have to go to university to be that dumb you literally nowadays it's you have to spend four years in school to be this stupid

I can't I can't remember this but my mom tells people that when I was little when asked what I wanted to be when I grew up I would say a pumpkin because like

being a little kid who doesn't understand concepts of like reality jobs or otherwise I was like I don't remember saying that but I mean it sounds like

something a three year old would say is that why you started this company i wanted to be a pumpkin that's it just research and development we'll get there in the in the basement we're already there you can identify as a pumpkin oh you're right we get tattooed you were so smart you were so smart you were so ahead of your time we we've got a genetics lab in the basement and all of the all of your all of your super chats all of your your TimCast membership go into DNA manipulation to convert human cells into pumpkin cells. Wailing pumpkin human chimeras. The noise keeps me up at night.

I just tell myself they're chickens. But a little kid doesn't know anything. I'm joking, by the way. They believe in infant? No, I mean, it is crazy. What's happening? Are they being told that at Harvard while they're learning?

They're learning it in a book. That's a problem. If you want to trick a person that is a student, an academic, put it in a book. Literally, it's incredible to me. This goes to the Sam Harris thing. I don't know if you guys are friends with him. Please go back and find Sam Harris in our little debate on Twitter. The things that he called me.

You know why? Because Sam Harris has a degree. And then it was literally the funniest conversation ever. Dave Rubin tried to like be like oh two people that i'm friends with like i don't want them fighting you guys should get on the phone like this is to dave rubin's credit by the way and he gives sam harris my number he calls me this is the day that they announced that like covid's happening and things are going to shut down i'm in texas i'm about to go to an event and he sounds like he's in an effing bunker like he sounded like a crazy person he's like you don't understand this thing's gonna

get really bad and like it's gonna i spoke to my doctors and you know i know people i know doctors that are in italy and you know in in two weeks there's gonna be gurneys in the streets nobody's gonna be able to go anywhere canis please you have to be responsible with your platform you need to encourage people to get inside where i mean he literally talk about a conversation i should have recorded right because this is like it was it was stunning he went crazy and then and then he went on other podcasts and he called me i mean a categorical imbecile all these things you know why because he went and he got a degree and he called his doctor friends and his doctor friends all said they understood this thing because they were reading what was in a book and now they were reading studies it's like all you have to do to

trick an academic is to put it in a book and it becomes magically real and they suspend their ability to think critically because that's what too much schooling does. It suspends your ability to think critically because your job

at these university campuses is to remember information. Not to regurgitate information. It's not to think quickly and go, wait a second, this justifies common sense. You know?

They just go, oh, but it's right here. Right here. It's a passage. But more importantly, it's also to follow the hierarchy. So know, they just go, oh, but it's right here. Right here. It's a passage. But more importantly, it's also to follow the hierarchy. So if there's a boss,

if there's someone paying you, if there's like a Bill Gates creating something like the Bill Chill in the scientific community, you cannot criticize that because if you do, you're going to get

your funding cut from you. And people don't understand, especially when it comes to American history, there have been so many horrors in American history that have been

done through doctors whether it was the testiki experiments the mk ultra experiments operation sea spray that's another one that a lot of people poisoning the ddt which became the mmr vaccine the secret government uh poisoning of of san francisco residents with with uh plutonium there's there's also the forced sterilization that has happened all throughout this country since the 1900s all the way up to 2010. The fluoride in our water right now. That makes no effing sense scientifically.

The worst horrors that humanity faced were rubber stamped by doctors that were following orders and just doing what they were told. Hey, tell me real quick, what's the Operation Sea Spray? Operation Sea Spray is when the U.S. government was doing a bioweapons experiment on San Francisco

in the 1950s. Wow. Was that when they were spraying or something on people? Secret in which serratia marcusens and Bacillus globigii bacteria were sprayed over

San Francisco Bay Area in California to determine how vulnerable a city like San Francisco may be to bioweapon attack. Exactly. That was in 1950. That's like right after the military industrial complex got formed. This is all the stuff that we know about. So this is what the secret agencies, what the federal

government was doing decades and decades ago. There's probably still a bunch of stuff that we don't know about today, but the sterilization aspect is one of the biggest because it continued all the way up to 2010 to 2010 when californian women prisoners without their uh knowledge were being sterilized by the government so this has been happening for a very long time there's a lot of eugenicists out there there's a lot of people that believe that there's too many people in this world and they have created so many horrors that need to be addressed and rectified and this is public

knowledge imagine what's secret do you guys know about the human Z no the chip sounds like a human chimpanzee that's right and so it's you know if you read about it they'll tell you it's it's hypothesized there's urban legends about it but I'm sorry man

if you think that the various governments of the world did not try to create chimeric human hybrids and other weird nonsense then you're naive yeah now Alex Jones

coming out and saying they're making cow people and stuff maybe a stretch too far but there's there's an old story about apparently apparently the urban legend

is that and maybe it's history in the Soviet Union yes this is true they were taking human women and inseminating them with chimp semen

because you can't do it the other way around because chimps are too small. A female chimp can't carry a human baby. It's too big. But a human female can carry a human Z because it's smaller. And so they were like offering women money or just forcefully doing this.

You think the United States isn't doing anything like that? They're definitely doing something. Funding it and then having it done in China. They doing it what do you think i mean the covid vaccine like i guess we'll wait till we're behind total big con move but like a lot i want to say about the vaccine and by the way i said a lot of stuff about the vaccine publicly on my show i mean i you guys know i do not vax my children yeah i am like i think maybe The only vocally

Person that says Proudly That I am anti-vax That little like Smear Oh are you anti-vax I'm like yes Put it on my check

I get it in a badge form Like thank you I have to help these children In the entire world I was injured by a vaccine You're not going to Gaslight me against An injury that I suffered

Everything you just said Ditto We actually We actually do have a story We can talk about The members only show that Luke was bringing up, which will be really interesting. There's a lot more we can add. Yeah, about, you know, bump stock Donnie

there, but that's a separate... Bump stock Donnie? That's a separate subject there, but again, human experimentation has been done by so many high-level government officials, and what they're doing right now, we can't even imagine. And it's not just being done in Ukraine with the specific gain-of-function research

that they're doing there. It's not just being done in China. It's being done domestically. There's a lot of things that, again, we could get into the weeds. We could go down the rabbit hole, especially when it comes to Lyme disease, Agent Orange, gay bombs.

There's so many things. Let's do autoimmune disease. Exactly. There's just so much I could say. My goodness. I want to hear about how DDTs, you mentioned it was led to the MMR vaccine. Yeah, I mean, the DDT scam, people, if you want to really start learning about vaccines,

it all begins with people believing that polio was eradicated. And LOL, if you're starting level, is you think that polio was eradicated. There's so much that people have to understand about vaccines. I am now of very formed opinion that I believe that there is a true government war on fertility. They want to own the means of fertility. And this is happening in the classroom with convincing women when we're 13 to own the means of fertility and this is happening in the classroom with convincing women

when we're 13 to get on birth control pills and telling you there's no effect. There's no effect to me taking hormones every single day. That's crazy.

Really? There's going to be no effect to me taking hormone pills every, how stupid, I mean again, common sense, but I read it.

I read it a book. There's a sterilization program being run right now against the people of this world and many people don't even realize it I just want to add too just to stop and think about how crazy it is

that we mass hormonally medicate females in this country and mass and there are people I know that women who are said like I don't touch it

I never touched it I had a bad feeling about it in my gut when I was 13 and every time I went to the doctor like if I was like oh my head hurts they'd be like

breast control I was like oh like my belly hurts they're like birth control i'm like oh i have a cramp they're like birth control i'm like okay well this can't be like an all-catch pill why are you trying to try to get me on birth control pill and i just thank god i had that spiritual discernment when i was like this is weird this is weird it is weird it destroys women for the rest of their lives i really do do believe that. It's absolutely horrible. Let's go to Super Chats and read. Let's get into it. I want to read just one very important Super Chat

right away from Daniel A. He said, ironic, Crowder was on Arthur and now he's fighting with DW. I posted that on Twitter yesterday. I did not miss that because I was a huge, by the way,

I was a huge Arthur fan when I was a kid. This is why this is the biggest one. When you were a kid. That's why I'm really sad about this. Dude, I watched Arthur up until they canceled it. I loved it. Not really. one that's why I'm really sad about this dude I watched Arthur up until they cancelled it I loved it

not really I'd watch it if it was on right now I'd just jump off and just watch it it's a great show it's my middle name it's a great show

it's the only reason I knew what an aardvark was let's be honest I like Arthur so he is an aardvark confirmed confirmed that's kind of weird

his face isn't really shaped like that no it's not alright so we got a whole bunch of superchats to read smash that like button subscribe to this channel

share the show with your friends we're gonna read your super chats um the end result of that poll was massive there were about 50 000 it was like 45 000 votes and i think it was 74 in favor of steven crowder so wait what poll i did a poll for the audience who do you think is right when uh when we started the show okay crowder or the daily wire and how long does it run for we ran it until i think nine ten okay and it had about 45 000 votes 74 said crowder it it started a little higher and started to shift down a little bit some people said daily wire bots were attacking no i just think well if crowder won then daily power bots clearly weren't attacking yeah it's just like not

everything is a conspiracy theory guys all right let's read let's read let's read uh buddha brother says from these comments i've decided the right has now swung too far no one's actually thinking everyone sees everything they don't like as evil left matrix crowder's acting like a child well that's the thing it's like not everything i just said not everything is a conspiracy and that's what's so frustrating to me is that you turn something that was just a regular contract negotiation into this huge conspiracy that there's like some boogeyman. And there are plenty of things you can pick apart the Daily Wire for. This is just not one of them.

This is just how business goes, you know? Megan Cole says, why do people always assume the worst of each other? It is possible to mess up a situation and have good intentions, mistakes, or differences of opinions as are far off from malicious intent. Well said.

I think Crowder sees malicious intent. I think the Daily Wire... Or is he the malicious intent? Well, it looks like from what Jeremy was saying, or in your opinion, it's that Crowder is trying to personally benefit from the controversy, and then Crowder's opinion makes it seem like

he's ideologically opposed to The Daily Wire. And he didn't say Daily Wire specifically at first. I do believe Fox. I think Fox is probably not a good company to contract with. We talked about it. Fox hosts can't come on this show. But whatever, man. Look, nobody owes me anything.

If they don't want to come on the show, I don't really care. All right. Let's see where we're at. What's trending on Twitter? What is? Candice. Candice followed by Steven Crowder. The top trends are Candice. Candice followed

by Steven Crowder. The top trends are Candice and is trending in news and entertainment. Steven Crowder and the third trend

is brawny. Wait, what? Are you like seriously? Yeah. So let's see. Trending. So here's what I'm seeing for US.

Crosby, Steph, Tatum, Crowder number four. Oh, wow. Why do we have different trends? You might have Recommended trends Yeah mine's not algorithmic

Twitter has been Very interesting Daily Wire 23 I've been getting A lot of different Viewpoints on there That I never had before Oh in news

In news Sorry Sorry Yeah Candice is number two In news for me Yep Why'd you look at that?

We're all Tim Gas was trending too Let's see I asked my followers What My last thing was What do you think about Him sharing the phone call? I love that I'm just like we're all Tim Cass was trending too let's see I asked my followers what my last thing was what do you think about him sharing the phone call

I love that I'm just like we should be bringing the super chats they're paying I mean that's probably better for us to read those you know why this is trending so much though

it's because the woke left the corporate left establishment like Daily Beast and Rolling Stone are writing huge articles they're like sharks

smelling blood in the water and they're like quick attack, attack the right. Underneath my question of what is everyone's thoughts about Stephen Crowder recording his conversation, Mike Sernovich says, Jeremy said wage slave. I'm literally shaking at having to hear a term that I and all of my co-workers called ourselves when on a guaranteed salary that arrived like clockwork without any of our

own assets at risk. Viva Frey, I hope I'm saying that right. I love him, by the way. He's got great videos. Said, I don't know who can think surreptitiously recording a conversation among purported friends can possibly look good that's my point secretly recording conversations in general looks bad on its face it requires a very serious justification above and beyond unsatisfactory negotiations that like that's what it was a lot of this is common sense bryson bryson says it makes him look prepared he

recorded the conversation after registering stopbigcon.com. Yes, it's like, I just don't understand. To me, it's like so obvious. Like you may be a best friend, but if you are sitting across table from me in a contract negotiation, you're an adversary. I mean, all of my comments, I'm not seeing that people are thinking

that this is an okay thing for Steven to have done. So that's interesting that there's a discrepancy. Clef the Misfit says, what's the over under Crowder cancels his Monday appearance after seeing this show? Zero. This recorded conversation was definitely a bridge too far. It's like, that's where people should focus on,

the recorded conversation and the fact that he did do a counteroffer. And again, I will not defend Daily Wire in every capacity. I respect Daily Wire. I have a good working relationship. I do not consider Jeremy boring or Caleb to be my friends, but they have been fair in negotiations. They have acted the part of businessmen, and if you do business,

you should expect that this is how it goes is what I'm saying. And it's also an indication that they'll go to bat for you as a contractor or employee when they're negotiating on your behalf as Daily Wire, if that ever comes up.

Yeah. Jeremy's a good negotiator. I mean, he's hard. That's how he got to where he is. It's freaking business. You know what I's a good negotiator. I mean, he's hard. That's how he got to where he is. It's freaking business. You know what I mean? I personally defend Stephen's right to record

without telling anyone. It's a one-party consent state. I like it. All right. Record it all. Remind me not to pick up your phone calls. I don't see...

If Crowder cancels, it's because he's a busy guy and not because of Candace's appearance. Not because he's way up. Okay. Oh. So, here we go. J. Yes says, so fun to watch the left and right eat themselves.ice's appearance. Not because he's right-ups. Okay. Oh. So here we go.

J. Yes says, so fun to watch the left and right eat themselves. It's all crumbling. I need more Ian, who surprisingly has the most level head. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Just keep treading water.

Eventually, you'll be the only one left, I guess. I was saying it'd be funny if we started the show and had Luke wearing a judge's robe and like a wig with a gavel. I like gavels. State your case, and then I'll determine who's right. I like gavels. State your case and then I'll determine who's right.

I like Luke. He's on team anti-vax. We're just chilling over here. Oh, dude. Day one. Yeah. I don't know if you've seen those yet, Candice,

but these are chakra vibrators. Have you? It came out of nowhere. Chakra vibrational. Family friendly show here. I thought this was a family friendly show. But they are literally

chakra vibrators. You ding it and then you put it on your body and they're different different chakras each one is for a different chakra all right let me read some more aj says tim this is all theater between jeremy and creditor swing the news cycle they are both faking like wwe pay luke the 50 million dollars yeah where's my 50 million i volunteer here ww because i love it here and it's really fun to be a part of these conversations oh oh yeah

well speaking of that david frederick says luke your t-shirt company completely scammed me one of Volunteer here. WWE. Because I love it here and it's really fun to be a part of these conversations. Uh-oh. Oh, yeah. Well, speaking of that, David Frederick says, Luke, your t-shirt company completely scammed me. One of my shirts was never delivered. One was delivered

with holes in it. I have reached out to you and the company and have had no help. That was a good break. I highly do not believe that. I actually messaged my team because I saw that.

I read every single chat that happens during these conversations. And here's my work chat and I took a picture of it and I'm like, hey, let's try to fix this right conversations. And here's my work chat. And I took a picture of it. And I'm like, hey, let's try to fix this right away. My team's like, we don't know anyone under that name. We just checked all of our records. We don't have that. But if there is a problem, we always fix it. I strive on having the best customer service. And you can email us

info at wearechange.org. And David Fredericks, if that's not the name you went by when you bought the t-shirts, we will fix it right away because, yeah, I mean, that's what we do here and if there's a problem,

we'll, you know, it doesn't sound like something that would happen with us, but if it did, we'll fix it right away. Josh Branson says,

you going to give Crowder 30 minutes to personally insult people like Candace is? He's been doing it on his own platform, so does he need more than 30 minutes I mean just pay attention subscribe to his YouTube channel that's so that's a promotion for Crowder if you're looking for personal insults I suggest you look at the video that he made which implied that all of the Daily Wire hosts were sellouts so there you go I'll be watching funnily enough Crowder probably wouldn't

have used it if not for Candace here. What? I'll just say, when Crowder comes on, he's going to be allowed to say exactly what he wants to say about it, the same as Candace is allowed to talk about what her opinion is. How do people expect me not to be offended when he, like, go, now that you've seen Jeremy's video,

go back and re-watch Crowder's video and just realize, you will see it, how many times he lied and intentionally omitted certain truths that would have made the Daily Wire look better and made the hosts look better. And the slight little jabs at the host of like, you might be noticing that they're kind of dumbing, you know, like being sanitizing their opinions. Like these were all jabs at me. Okay. So let's and me and there's only a few hosts, the Daily Wire. There's only a few of us. Right. So when

you do something like this and you kind of just say, it's a lot of other people. You're taking attacks on me as well. And I have a right to defend myself always. There you go. Cody Copka says, why did Jordan Peterson delete his tweet in support of Crowder? I was actually curious about that. I saw people like tweeting about it, but I wasn't aware of it. So do you?

I'll give you I'll give you my thoughts. Jordan Peterson probably tweeted out the video from stephen crowder and then someone at the daily wire probably said to him like hey you know that's about us right and he was like oh i didn't realize and they're like yeah and he was like i'll take it down yeah that probably is a sane opinion i'm sure there's bigger conspiracies that we can create for the internet so let's make one up but just just so people understand that's way too safe that'sacies that we can create for the internet so let's make one up. Just so people understand. That's way too sane for the internet. That's way too common of a take for the internet. So people are probably thinking

they're secretly in a relationship. No, but here's what's going to happen. People are going to think that Jordan Peterson tweeted it out then Jeremy went to him and said you better take that tweet down or else Jordan Well, we're going to take all your money.

And then Jordan was like please, please don't take my money. Please don't take my money. Take the gimp mask off me. But it's not yet signed. Now we're warming up. I need my fancy socks. Don't take my money. Take the gimp mask off me. But it's, but having worked, not yet. Now we're warming up. I need my fancy socks.

Don't take my suits. My lobsters. That's a skin I would watch. My lobsters. No, yeah. Like Jordan Peterson's locked in like a small white, white room with a lobster.

Like he's petting it. And then Jeremy walks in and grabs the lobster. And he's like, if you want it back, you take it. He's like, no, my lobster.

No, no. It's just having worked's like, no, my lobster. No, no, it's just, having worked for like Fusion and Vice, people who work at companies don't need to be told what to do.

No one needs to go to someone at Fusion and be like, hey, you know, we're demanding you cover the story and say it this way. The people they hire,

they'll go to you and be like, oh, hey, we saw your tweet this morning. Don't you feel like it's kind of racist? And they'll go, oh, be like oh hey we saw your tweet this morning don't you feel like it's kind of racist and they'll go oh I'm sorry about that

take it down you don't gotta ask them they only hire the people who are already in line and willing to cooperate in this way and like cohesively function like that

so I think Jordan Peterson was probably like oh I didn't realize delete and didn't think twice he was like I don't want to be involved

in this and goodbye yeah but that's again let's go back to the lobster theory and he's locked in a basement and Jeremy and him are dating

it's like well it's like that scene from Iron Man 2 you know when they walk in and take his parrot from him and put it in the bag and he's like

I just took your stuff how does it feel like they take his lobster and put it in a bag and Jordan Peterson's sitting there make the tweet alright alright where we at

Dorian Marius Gray says I'm with Luke who cares about all this bickering between conservative media personalities make the tweet. All right, all right, where are we at? Dorian Marius Gray says, I'm with Luke. Who cares about all this bickering between conservative media personalities? We got globalists trying to kill us every day with their policies and making a new world order. There's a eugenicist depopulation program happening right now, okay?

Crowder, we got better things to talk about. That's just my two cents here. People listen. I agree. I like the conversation about the contracts. That's super important. That's just my two cents here. People listen. I agree. I like the conversation about the contracts. That's super important. That's been,

that needs to change. Dixie Tailgate says, Candice and Emily Campagno should start their own show called Hot Fast Talking Conservative Chicks. Dude, when I get fired up,

I speak so fast and I consciously try to slow it down, but when I get upset, I'm just did it it's always like that or did it get more over the years no I would say that it's a family trait yeah but I've gotten better at it and I slow it down when I'm being intentional but then when I'm fired up I'm like do you listen that fast too I listen extremely fast I do see I

intentionally pretended I didn't answer answered your question very slowly. That was intentional. Tried really hard there, guys. Keep breathing. Breathe through the nose. Also, keep your forehead relaxed. Thank you. Whatever this does.

Alex D. He says, Candice is a liar. Crowder requested $30 million a year for four years minus production costs, not $140 million per year, as she claimed. Okay, I'm sorry if I got the math wrong. The most important part of this, $30 million a year times,

how many years is he saying? I think it was 120 over four years, 30 million a year. But I said 140, I should have said 120. I would like to apologize for the lie. There's probably a big conspiracy as to why I lied,

not just that I made a simple mathematical error and your big conspiracy would be right. The point is, is that he made a counter offer, so he was not outraged by the terms i'm just i'm i'm so annoyed by the people who are like quote tweeting people like will summer he's like a daily beast writer come on that guy's a total scumbag and he's and he's taking cutter cutter out of context i'm like you don't have to like or agree with crowder but what really pisses me off is i'm seeing tons of people even conservatives and and moderates and centrists,

retweeting a guy who makes things up and then making fun of Crowder and I'm like, no, no. Disagree with Crowder on the merits. Don't listen to a guy who's lying about

what Crowder said. Don't promote Will Somner. You know what I mean? Like, at all, ever, under any circumstances. You see, you know it's bad when you're criticizing Crowder but actually defending him

from the lies of Will Somer. Yeah, I mean, it's Will Somer. I mean, like, he's a total dirtbag and so while I think what criticizing Crowder but actually defending him from the lies of Will Sommer. Yeah, I mean, it's Will Sommer. I mean, like, he's a total dirtbag and so while I think what Steven Crowder did is wrong and is a dirtbag move,

it doesn't help us by promoting another dirtbag. Yep. GBB says, Hasanabi is a self-admitted Marxist. That's right. And the tweet was still funny. Yeah.

It was funny. It's funny when, like, I see people on the right take a joke tweet from Vosh or Hasan seriously and I'm like, come on take a joke tweet from Vosh or Hassan seriously and I'm like come on guys like Vosh is not

seriously advocating for eating people you know what I mean like he'll make a weird joke or whatever and then people will be like and then you retweet it and it's like retweets

suddenly become endorsements and people on the right start acting like people on the left and it's like alright dude chill like chill and you're not really

communist right just to be clear right yeah I say federales because I'm glad this conversation is happening

as well but i also agree that i just want luke to talk about the globalists for a while thank you there's a war on for your balls testosterone and sperm levels are declining to record levels humanity will face a crisis of civilizations that will know no freaking bounds we are in deep trouble unless we wake up right now, people. I'm just sitting here talking about business relationships and Luke's like, they're coming for your balls.

They are, literally. People listen. They're going to take your balls. I wish I could read that comment. Suggestion box, get something here

so that your guests can read too. I love that. And your co-hosts. I don't have the best eyesight. The new studio, we're going to have

monitors for everybody. The new studio, we're going to have monitors for everybody. The issue is we learned. Now we're going to have little modules in the table that pop open. You can plug your laptop in. I would love to see what everybody's saying so I could fire answer anything that popped up. There's just so much.

I can only read so much. I try to find good ones. It makes sense. Of course, you can't answer but but all of them are basically saying i hate candace she's awful she's ugly why doesn't she fax her kids yeah i get it do you get them any vaccines zero percent just healthy human beings out the way they're born josh vickers says candace said crowder called jeremy two months after registering the stop big con on 12-12-22. She was using personal attacks that she condemns others

for. Wait. What? That's an interesting point. I wouldn't call that a personal attack. It's not a personal attack. It's a timeline. Yeah, if Crowder registered Stop Big Con on December 12th, but then called Jeremy on like January... December 22nd. December 22nd, actually. Ten days later. 22nd. No.

It was still the 12th do you want to do you want to pull up the who is yeah I'm pretty sure it was the 12th oh okay so then I misread it

that's my fault well that's when he and then the 15th was when he made the join mug club thing right so we checked the who is and then I guess

he called Jeremy a week ago a week ago and then recorded a conversation so it's it's nefarious a week ago

and then he recorded the conversation so everyone can put the context clues together and solve this. So he had intended to launch Stop Big Con, and then he decided to call Jeremy and record the conversation. Maybe the super chatter was saying

you said it was two months after, but it was one month after. Guys, clearly math, you got me. Either way. I've been got. Yeah, either way, it was before.

Dale Barr says, Crowder is in the wrong. However, I think JB should have accepted that they missed on demonetization. Lauder with Crowder questioning the DW's conservative values doesn't know contractor relationships

or how much DW did in the culture war. I just don't understand. If you hire me to work for you and I get completely demonetized and I can no longer produce any content, I should just keep paying you because you're a friend? Well, no, no, no. I can actually simplify this.

The Daily Wire wasn't trying to hire Crowder. The Daily Wire was trying to license content. I think the Daily Wire could have made the contract sound like this. Luke, I will do a contract with you to license 192 YouTube videos. I'm not signing no contracts. But here's my point. Where's my toilet paper? I'm going to treat that contract like a...

The Daily Wire could have just said, we will license 192 episodes of the Loud Earth Crowder show to appear on Apple, Facebook, Spotify, and YouTube. If you miss one of these episodes for any reason, we will dock you on the fee to measure it to the episode lost. Then basically, if Crowder got banned,

Daily Wire would be like, hey, Crowder, we noticed that you're short three episodes from the contract. And he'd say, well, I'm banned from YouTube. I'm like, okay, well, then you're in breach of contract. Which is what they did, right? They actually, it's even more favorable

because they said, we're only going to dock you a percentage of the contract so you could still get paid which is the you're basically saying they should have dropped him and said now you get zero percent which is actually a more aggressive contract well so the issue is the daily wire the way they structured the licensing agreement they separate it right they they could have just said zero percent if you get docked if i if i tell you I am buying 10 YouTube videos and then you get banned from YouTube, you are unable to complete the terms of contract. I pay you nothing.

That's worse. Those are worse terms. I know. That's my point. This is literally, we're all agreeing. Actually, they were being nicer because they said, we're only going to dock you 20% of the fee. Please, guys, if I misquoted it, please.

You got my point is that they said 20% of the fee If you get banned from YouTube So they were actually Being nicer In those circumstances Because the normal person Would say You get banned from YouTube Sorry go kick rocks

That's what you're saying That would make sense You can no longer perform As you've agreed to But it's because They weren't hiring Crowder And that's why What do you mean

They weren't hiring him So You mean as an employee As an employee Yeah but the point is Is that it's the same It's the same concept No no no no This, no, no.

This is an important distinction. Okay, yeah. I'm not comprehending what you're saying then. Daily Wire is licensing the Lionel Crowder show that Crowder has to produce and deliver. Same for me. If he can't deliver, they reduce his pay. Right.

If they hired him directly, then the Daily Wire assumes those risks because they run the whole thing. There's a difference between a license fee. I'm a license fee. That's what I'm trying to tell you. It's the same thing, but it wouldn't make sense in a license fee. If you can't make the content, they should say kick rocks, right?

Right, right. The difference, what I'm saying is if Crowder wanted the Daily Wire to assume 100% of the risk, he needs to be an employee. Oh, oh, you're that. I was missing that piece. So you're saying he should have become an employee. But even in that circumstance, if you are an employee and your job is to create content if you can't create the content but as an employee that's on the business okay cool but he didn't want to be an employee he didn't even want to come into the studio make

his content he wanted to own all the stuff and make his stuff out so i mean this is what he didn't he didn't want that option right it's an important distinction i think people need to understand the daily wire wasn't hiring crowd as an employee they were licensing the show which is how it is for me they They're licensing my content. So it makes sense that if I can't make my content, it's done. And actually, it's favorable to say, actually, we're not going to be done with you. We're still going to pay you some money,

and we're going to try to replace this in the time and come up with something behind the pay, or whatever, and we're only going to dock a 20%. That's actually, which is why when DC Drano was here, I keep calling him DC Drano, Rogan. When Rogan was here, he was like, I don't know, this actually seems pretty okay. At least they're not saying you're completely gone this is kind of nice you know here's the challenge my advice to people would be not to sign a contract

like that i mean especially if you're a crowd or cutter's big but then you gotta admit brett cooper's big why would you not sign a contract like that i guess i'm trying to get to the bottom of why would you not sign a contract that says that if you cannot, if you are banned, obviously, we can't make money off of you. Why would you say that this is not a good contract? I wouldn't. I would recommend everybody do their own thing. Yeah. And I think that's kind of the conclusion that they came to.

Right. Is that I want to do this. You want to do that. Like you had the same conversation with DW. I've had conversations with pretty much everyone in the conservative movement where I went, OK, this doesn't really work for me, doesn't really work for me, and you walk away because you have different ideas. You know, Stephen thinks he's a Tom Brady. I mean, that's the truth.

And he thinks I'm too big for this. That's fine. If Tom Brady wants to orchestrate a contract to go back to the Patriots and negotiations fall apart, is he really supposed to try to burn down the Patriot organization or to say that we just couldn't come to an agreement? And that's called, like I said, being a big boy. It just didn't work out. Button Puncher says,

$10 says Crowder bails on Monday. Why does he think he's going to bail? I don't think so. I've talked to him quite a bit. I think he should drop the whole recording, by the way. I agree. Because it's just like he did part of the contract and then the part that made Daily Wire look bad

and didn't show the other. It's like, why don't you drop? I have no idea what that phone call says. I'm understanding from Jeremy that it was like a pleasant, friendly conversation about Christmas, right? And then he shifted the conversation and made himself sound like a hero. Drop it. Drop the conversation. Stop giving us piecemeal information.

Let transparency win the day, right? Daylight is the best disinfectant. As long as Jeremy andven are both into it i 100 agree i would like to i would like them to decide it together but we together see the array drop pieces of it yes i think jeremy mentioned that he wouldn't mind if it was public i like crowder i think crowder's been screwed over multiple times by by contracts and and i think if you look at his career and then he i'm imagining he was like he leaves the blaze and then he looks at these

contracts and he's like this is the same thing everywhere i don't like this i mean time to start your own business it's like oh i'm an employee at chipotle every time i have this these contracts at any i've worked at chipotle and i've worked at subway and i just don't like the fact that i have when i when i sign my employment contract that i get paid around this i think i should be paid this sounds like it's time to start your own business. Sir Rank says, Brett Cooper responding now on Instagram. Nice. Brett Cooper in the mix. Well, so here's an important point. Look, if someone asked me, I've had people come to me because Rumble's doing deals with people. Rumble's doing, you know, I don't know exactly the terms, but some people are getting signed and we're seeing that a lot.

I think Russell Brand did something. I think people come to me who are smaller and say, hey, Rumble's offering me a deal. Should I do it? I say, what's the terms? They say, here are the terms. I say, I wouldn't do it. I think it's a bad deal. And they will go,

okay, well, I'm broke and so it's money for me. And I have to do it. Well, people are at different stages in their life. So people wonder why it might make sense to sign it.

You have to think about that's why the individual person, right? But, but. Are you single and by yourself? Like Rogan was saying, I wouldn't sign something like that. I like to be in control of my business. let's ask rogan that same question right when

he has four kids he just got married and sometimes situation shifts and you're like you know i actually want to lay down some roots when i started this stuff seven years ago i would have never signed a contract with daily wire ever i was loving what i was doing on youtube i was enjoying my independence i was you know doing some part-time stuff with Turning Point USA. I was doing Fox News shows five days a week. Literally six, seven days a week sometimes. My life changed. My life changed where I wanted to put down some roots because I have children.

So that's another part of this conspiracy land where people, I think people said to me, she doesn't go on Alex Jones anymore. They never mention that I also don't go on Jesse Waters or Laura Ingram. I literally do Tucker once a week. It's because I don't have to. I have two kids now. And I had Alex Jones on my show last year. Right. So everything becomes this conspiracy and not that this person is actually growing up, got married, has two kids and doesn't have as much time to manage an entire business.

Right. And maybe you go, actually, I'd rather spend that time with my kids. Like my Contra the Wire allows for me to wake up in the morning, to drop my kids off at daycare, to pick them up from daycare if I want to, to go back home, to have lunch with my son. That's a wonderful thing because motherhood is the most important thing in my life. Has the Daily Wire ever, I shouldn't say instructed, but insisted that you don't talk about something?

No, we've had two content disagreements and I will be open about it because I believe that transparency is the best way for people to decide for themselves. The first one was during COVID crazies. Like I think about the time that I did your, and I was instantly against the vaccine, a hundred percent, like didn't even play with it.

And I wanted to do this thing talking about how it was impacting people's menstruation based on what women that had gotten the vaccine were telling me, one of my best friends who i just went to go see here um she just literally wouldn't stop bleeding couldn't get it i mean it was like girls were terrified and nobody would talk about it and i was adamant i mean i sat down there in that control and i was like then why are we doing the show like you know if we're so afraid of and this is one of things where it's like okay i get why they're saying they're like we will like to their credit if you put this on youtube they made it very clear they all started making these policies about the vaccine suddenly if you said anything

against the vaccine and to me it would have been worth losing a fee to talk about this because i just wanted it to be on record and for women to hear it and then eventually they agreed and they said okay if you're going to do it you do it by the book you may be careful that you say that a friend told me you know just making sure that the language is exactly right and that's what the editors are paid to do to be like maybe this sentence can be striped so that we can we have a defense for you on youtube but i did say you can go back and listen to the episode during covid but it was a fight okay and of course you gotta make sure to tell everybody just talk to a medical professional you know this is not medical advice yeah exactly i had to start with i'm not you know i'm not a

doctor i'm telling you what i am hearing and what women are telling me. And then seven months later, when we were all vindicated, when they suddenly admitted it in the press, I looked like a freaking hero. And I was like, see guys, it pays to talk. And it wasn't Jeremy and Caleb. There's obviously a lot of, I don't talk to Jeremy and Caleb on my shows.

The second situation was with Ye, obviously. That was like a very big deal, things that were going on. And they felt, and this actually was a conversation with Jeremy and Caleb, they basically were like, we would never tell you what to say,

but what we are saying is that we're under all this fire because whether you're being silent or what you're saying, it seems like people are interpreting this as this is a defense of Ye. And we are just asking you like, okay, you have made it clear

that Ye is your friend. I'm not going to not say, I made it clear that I was not going to say anything bad about Ye. I still feel very passionate about that. He is my friend. I actually believe in friendship. I don't believe in dropping recording. I have said publicly he's my friend. And because I have said that I am not willing to when the entire media is lashing him and he's losing his entire life to add to the fire of everything. And but then they said something to me and it

registered where they said, OK, you're saying all this stuff in defense of yay but what about your other friends that might be being hurt by this and that was when i decided on my show to say something in defense of dennis prager because i realized that while i was defending yay i also wasn't defending people which is also important to me my friends like marissa straight marissa straight ceo of prager you i worked for them but she is much more than that to me like she is like a sister to me I went through some very very serious stuff a couple of years ago which I wouldn't even care to recap it's one of those situations where you're just like it's like life or death you know what I mean like am I how am I gonna get my half in the morning and the only person I spoke to that

got me through that was Mr. Straight and I would never deny that I am friends with Mr. Straight and I would never deny that I am friends with Ye. And sometimes these two things at this moment seem to run into conflict, and they were just like, you know, alarm bells being, you know, why are you only saying stuff about Ye, not saying I'm friends with Mr. Street, or whatever, and all I did was say exactly what I just said to you. I'm friends with both these people, and that doesn't make sense to the world at this moment. I get that, but I refuse to say anything bad about either of them.

So this is a really good point, because like I said, I think the Daily Wire is a net positive. We took a different approach to the Ye thing. After Ye stormed out of here, we sent a reporter to go hang out with him and get the story. Shane Cashman went down, hung out with him, and it was an amazing story. And he called it the case for President Ye. Call that a defense or whatever you want to call it. I, you know, when I talked to him, I was like Ye invited Shane to come out and do this interview

in depth, in person, to experience what he was working on. It was really great and I said, and I'm talking to Shane as Ye's on Infowars saying very outrageous things and then we were like what do we do? And I'm like do you still want to do it? And he was like yeah, have fun bro like write it up do it to it yeah uh and that's

and that's a moment that we're in and by the way quite a while that's a very difficult scenario to sort of maneuver you have one of your hosts that's like you know about yay and the other host is like he's my friend and so I think that that should show a credit, a credit to the Daily Wire that we were both able to say what we felt to be true. And I've always said like Shapiro can say what he wants and what he believes. They don't become my beliefs.

We disagree about a lot of different things. And the yay situation was a scenario in which we disagreed. And let me tell you the pressure that was put on me from the mainstream media, tweets, all the stuff to say something bad about yay like to just say one thing bad about him and it's me you know it was sadistic and i stood up for someone because you know i i refused rather than saying stop for him i refused to add to it because it seems sadistic it was like how much more do you need somebody to be hit over the head he's like

bleeding on the ground got nothing left it was like a walk of shame yeah they wanted me and then i realized it was because it was like everyone has said it the entire world has said his wife has said it this person said they've taken everything from him they're threatening to to psych 51 50 him all this stuff but we need candace to say it and i was like this is now sadistic and i am not going to participate in this and then it became well if you don't participate then we're going to whip you too you know and I was like f all of you because at the end of the day every single day my goal is to put my head on the pillow and know that I was a decent human being okay and that is why I don't have very many enemies so shockingly in this movement because I stand by what I believe in always even when it's popular not to do that. It would have been so easy for me

to sell Ye down the river and be like, well, this situation, and martyr, but it's like, no, man. Sometimes just hold the line, be a person, and wait for people to move on. I don't need you to understand how I'm both friends with Ye

and both friends with Marissa Strait. I want to say one final thought as we start to wrap this up. I've known Crowder for a while. He's always been really nice to me. I've been on his show several times. And I like the guy. I think he does important work.

I also know Jeremy Boring. And in all of the business dealings that I've done with a bunch of companies, the best was with Jeremy, despite the fact we did not come to any formal transactional understanding. It just doesn't make sense. But I think the conversation was an important one to have because we're exploring how can we do better by everything that's going on. We want to win the culture war. I do think Jeremy's a good dude.

And, you know, I've talked with people at big companies. Obviously, I've talked with Vice. I've talked with Fusion. I've talked with a bunch of other big New York media. And they all, you walk out every time going, yeah yeah when i when i when i went to the daily wire and was talking with jeremy it was like this is fun is hanging out talking brainstorming and we ultimately decided that there's probably nothing we could do but we'll we'll do non-transactional things like the time square billboard stuff since then there have been periods where i've talked

with jeremy and like hey look we're a small company. We've had these problems. And he's like, oh, yeah, you know, he's giving me like free advice without question, just seriously helping another company, which arguably is a competitor. And so I think Jeremy is a great dude. So it's really hard for me. I'm like, I don't want everybody fighting. I don't think Daily Wire is a bad company. I don't think Steve McGruder is a bad dude. I think there's an ideological disagreement.

It's really difficult. I don't know how to solve the problem. What's your gut instinct telling you? Because I'm not going to let you be agnostic. You've got the facts in front of you. You're watching the videos. What is your gut telling you about this situation? It was wrong for Crowder to record Jeremy. I'm shocked to see that he registered Stop Big Con

a month before he recorded the phone call, which says that he's been planning this for some time. I do think Steven Crowder is ideologically motivated. I do think Steven Crowder is ideologically motivated. I don't think it's effective right now with what's going on to go after the Daily Wire when you have things like Disney and Netflix to be angry about. The Daily Wire is producing stuff that I think is very important and good. Notably, the documentary you did on BLM. Notably, the documentary Matt Walsh did on What what is a woman and so i'm just like is this the appropriate

thing to be doing i don't know if crowder uh should be i do think that uh crowder is right in that these contracts are not good for people starting up that being said i do understand like brett cooper is probably infinitely better off because of it you know what i mean it's a difficult thing it's a difficult thing of course i didn't know. Of course. I didn't know who Brett Cooper was and now I'm like, she's amazing. Like her show is so great. And so.

And that video recording that Crowder has, I just heard it for the first time with this video. Jeremy's right. She's going to work for him and she's going to leave very famous and she's going to be worth

millions of dollars after that fact. I recognize that. Luke told me a while ago before I worked for Disney not to do it. I said, yeah, but look, I worked for them for a couple of years. I get paid a lot of money. I recognize that. Luke told me a while ago before I worked for Disney not to do it. I said, yeah, but look, I worked for them for a couple of years.

I get paid a lot of money. I can invest in another company and I ended up doing that and I had a really bad experience really, really quickly. But I did get paid enough money to start all of this. So it's like,

maybe it's easy for me to say. I was like, don't join the Disney cult. The Mickey Mouse is not good for you, Tim. Don't do it. The dark side's too strong. He can put

himself in the presence of the emperor and still maintain the light. Disney owns Star Wars, so easy. This is my aversion to these contracts. It was two years where the company instantly went woke and it locks you up. I'm like, so I think my ultimate view is

I don't think Crowder should be waging this in a way that's damaging to the daily wire but i do think he should be leading a charge and changing the business landscape of the space and then you know there's a net positive way to do it i would have thought you would have been bigger and better if you didn't sign with disney you would have been on your own and you would have been two years ahead of where you are now entirely that's entirely possible and that's why i was like, don't do it! No! Imagine if I just started doing this show instead of going and working there and being stuck for two years.

I think your experience inside the belly of the beast is invaluable. But hey, I had nowhere to sleep. Whose couch would I be sleeping on when you were covering all those crazy protests, right? I needed a couch. So I'm happy that happened. You know, what I'll say is,

my view of it is this. I think The Daily Wire is going to be a media enterprise, and it's going to look like you're going to see two hot rods. One's got a pride flag on it. One's got a Gadsden flag on it. They're both hot rods. Okay, me, I'm not a hot rod guy. I don't drive those things.

You know, I'm going to get my electric motorbike or a moped or something. I don't got beef with people who are driving a hot rod. But I'd rather hang out with the guys who got the Gadsden flag thing. Am I going to buy the car? No. Am I going to pay to drive around in it? No. But I think it's cool that you got it.

And I'd rather that than the other one. You know what I mean? So that being said, I'm just looking at a mathematical formula. If the Daily Wire succeeds, is it good for us? 100% yes, absolutely. Is it the system I would build? No, it's absolutely not. But I like The Daily Wire.

You know what I mean? I watch Disney stuff. I stop subscribing. I don't have a Netflix subscription either. I don't fault people for wanting entertainment. We have to build the machine we want to see. And then people can leave. So if Crowder, in my opinion,

wants to make something where he thinks he can do better contracts, my approach, if I was him, would be, guys, I tried doing a deal with these companies. I think their deals are bad. I understand they produce content that's probably good. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to make a machine that's better.

I'm going to do better contracts for you. Quite literally, that is what I'm doing. That's literally all he had to say. Well, let's go to the members only section because we've got to talk about so much. So, thanks so much for hanging out. I know it's contentious. There's a lot of people like Crowder's right, DW's right, but we'll have Crowder on the show Monday and then he'll lay out his case and his view

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You can follow me at Timcast. Candice, do you want to shout anything out? Just my podcast. I feel like that's appropriate. I'm very proud of what we're doing. It's amazing. We explore all of these topics. I'm obviously very passionate about against vaccines.

I'm very passionate about the corruption of the CIA. I'm very passionate about all of the WWF stuff, the globalist, actually everything that you were talking about. So my podcast is about, I usually don't talk about conservative infighting. I do try to stay out of it. But, and then just to say to people like,

please don't think everything is a conspiracy. Don't think that every person is selling out. We're never going to win. If your perspective is that one simple thing that you don't understand means that somebody has sold out or one simple agreement that you have. Please don't think that every single person has the same opinion at The Daily Wire. I'm still the exact same person that you invested in, your timing, when you hit the share button. Back when I was red pill black,

nothing has changed. I'm just a mom now. I have two kids. And I don't agree with everything that The Daily Wire does, but this time they didn't do anything wrong. Hey, what's the best place for people to get the podcast apple spotify wherever you listen you can watch the show on youtube as well if you want to watch it every single day i think um the youtube channel they started for me is candace owens pod i also have my own youtube channel um which is separate and yeah i run my social media accounts my instagram my twitter are not controlled by the daily wire like that conspiracy and i'm still friends with everybody so for people that think that oh she forgot her like it's nope

still friends with every single person whose shows I've been on I don't have beef in this movement because people that are chill with me I have nothing bad

to say about them even if other people hate them what's your twitter really quickly at real Candice O only because Candice was taken

and it's never been tweeted from so Elon Musk hear my cry release all of the unused handles and give me at Candice was taken and it's never been tweeted from. So Elon Musk, hear my cry. Release all of the unused handles and give me at Candice. I had to shoot my shot. I had to shoot my shot. Yeah.

Maybe I'll talk to him later. Anyway, my website is Luke Uncensored. Casual. LukeUncensored.com is my website. I am fully independent and you can support me there. I go off into the deep, deep, deep, deep down the rabbit hole on a lot of crazy stuff, a lot of solutions, a lot of ways to not be

victims of the state. LukeUncensored.com is the website. See you there. And Ian Arthur Carsland. That's me. Are you working out with me tomorrow? No. Come on. I'm in. I'm trying to start a fight. I'm trying to do like some kickboxing with Ian. Trying to start a fight? No, like do like Some kickboxing with Ian Trying to start a fight

Like a fight club Like a nice one I just did 20 pushups Before the show though I feel ripped dude I'm getting big That's my plan for 2023 What I do is

I post it on Twitter And then I pin it What I'm going to do that year And then every time I go on Twitter I see my resolution And I'm reminded This year I'm building muscle

I do a kickboxing I'm like we got to do this I work out every morning 4.30am Oh that's awesome Yeah I do the military I got no one to work out we got to do this. I work out every morning, 4.30 a.m. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, I do the military. I got no one to work out with me. Yeah, that's why,

because Jocko Lubbock inspired me. Powerful. I got no one to work out with me. Dude, I'm in. I wanted to clarify, we talked about the ozone layer and things that were ripping it open in the 80s and 90s.

It was CFCs, you were right. CFCs. Chlorofluorocarbons, different than PFCs, which are polyfluorocarbons. Those are plastics that are destroying.

Yeah, and the chlorofluorocarbons were in like hairspray and stuff. So we got rid of a lot of that. But I think the ozone, well, letfluorosilicides. Those are plastics that are destroying. Yeah, and the chlorofluorocarbons were in like hairspray and stuff. So we got rid of a lot of that. But I think the ozone, well, let's just talk about this stuff. It's getting late. Serge, love you, man. Yo, love you too, Ian. My name is at Serge.com.

I was on the podcast, the, what is it called? Popculture podcast, Popculture Crisis. We did speak about Alec Baldwin as well. Went kind of deep with that. But yeah, that's just fun. I forgot to mention it yesterday. So shout out Popculture Crisis. Pop Culture Crisis we did speak about Alec Baldwin as well went kind of deep with that but yeah that's just fun I forgot to mention it yesterday so shout out

Pop Culture Crisis yeah ready for the after show alright everybody we will see you all over at timcast.com we post the

uncensored members only to the front page around 10, 50, 11pm we'll probably go a little bit later because we went late for this one

but we'll see you all there thanks for hanging out cheers