Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #706 Biden's Home RAIDED By FBI, Feds Trying To COVER UP SCANDAL w/Sameera Khan
Episode Date: February 2, 2023Tim, Ian, Hanna Claire, & Serge join Sameera Khan to discuss Joe Biden's Delaware home being raided, National Archives saying they were prohibited from announcing Biden raid before the midterms, the l...atest episode of The Last Of Us, & the growing popularity of lab grown meat. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The FBI has searched the home of Joe Biden.
Now I call it a raid because when they searched the home of Donald Trump, they called it a raid. But when they searched the home of Joe Biden, Now, I call it a raid because when they searched the home of Donald Trump,
they called it a raid.
But when they searched the home of Joe Biden, they said it was a planned search.
No big deal.
In reality, it's effectively the same thing.
They're searching his house again to try and find more classified documents.
And I wonder if this has something to do with the fact that some Hunter Biden emails surfaced,
and it looks like Hunter Biden had access to classified information somehow.
Very strange indeed. Well, I don't know exactly what's going on or why. Some people think it's
that the deep state's trying to remove Joe Biden because he is going to be running in 2024. So his
team says administration. That's what that's what it's looking like. We got a story about a crying
chief of staff saying he's going to be with them when he runs or something like that. So maybe the
deep state really does want to get rid of him.
It's the only way they can do it.
Or I actually think this may be a cover-up.
We're learning now that the National Archives were barred from telling the world,
telling the American people that they were searching the home of Biden for these classified documents
and in fact found some.
Now, who would tell them to do it?
It had to be Merrick Garland or Joe Biden.
So it looks like the reason they searched his house is because they're working at his behest, trying to cover it up, collect the documents and stop the story from getting out.
And that's exactly what they did.
And now the midterms are over.
The story has gotten out only because CBS News reported on it.
So we'll talk about that.
Plus, we'll talk about whether or not he's going to run.
We got Donald Trump declaring war on the culture war.
Apparently, Trump's going to make his key issues all about culture war stuff, and we've
already started to see it.
So this should be pretty interesting.
And then we got Taiwan on high alert.
Power goes out at LAX, LA airport.
Some people are concerned, maybe cyber attack.
And then we have this really crazy story.
It's kind of e-drama celebrity gossipy, but it's interesting because it's about AI deep
fake porn and how
like some Twitch streamers are crying because they've been deepfaked or whatever.
So let's talk about how the future is going to get crazy.
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Samira Khan. Hi, thank you so much for having me. Very excited to be here. So who are you? What do
you do? I'm an independent journalist as of right now, but I used to work for RT in DC. I was their
Washington correspondent for a little bit. And yeah, I've been in the game for a little while,
and I find it really interesting now i used
to uh be in the like progressive left i was very involved with the bernie sanders campaign and then
recently i think with um the country moving i guess left uh i guess i've taken more of like
a centrist position and i've gotten pretty anti-left. So, yeah, that's my background.
Anti-woke journalist, is that it? Pretty much, pretty much anti-woke journalist.
But I used to focus more so on foreign policy,
but I'm also, like Trump, getting more so into the culture war.
I find that really interesting.
And it's the same thing, right?
Culture war, they're also using in foreign policy, so on and so forth.
Seems fitting for this show, so thanks for joining us.
We've got Hannah-Claire Brimlow. Hi, I'm Hannah'm hannah claire brimlow i'm a writer for timcast.com
oh okay sorry i need a longer intro yeah develop something i'm kind of in your boat hannah claire
uh i'm ian crossland got nothing to say too much samira we talked a little bit about your last name
khan yeah maybe you come from gangas yeah i mean if he's my ancestor that would be super based
that's hardcore yeah well good to see you people are saying that when I was talking about in the intro, it glitched and deleted
the part where I said Donald Trump was running or something like this and going after the
culture war.
Like four different superstructures came in and said some weird glitch happened.
Just to clarify, Donald Trump is running for president is what you said?
Well, that he's declaring war on the culture war.
That's funny.
I'm declaring war on war.
Or I should like-
It'll never happen again.
He didn't say that.
And I'm saying that he's going to be directly addressing culture war issues
because he gets the biggest applause for it when he talks about it.
The culture war is something I feel like I can impact.
Like, politics and stuff, I feel like an outsider.
I can offer advice and things like that from the outside.
But the culture war, I'm in it.
You know, we're in it.
Yeah, I mean, it's worked well for DeSantis and Yunkin.
So,
uh,
it's a smart decision on Trump's part because I feel like one of the
criticisms that I've seen from his supporters for MAGA people is that he
hasn't gone hard enough on the culture war stuff.
But,
uh,
now that he's changing,
I think that that's probably a good move for him.
Yeah.
It's worked for DeSantis.
So what do you think surge?
Yo,
uh,
I'm at surge.com.
Joe's trying to get over this stupid sinus
infection so my voice sounds super weird yeah but almost there done soon well let's jump into this
first story we got this from the daily caller you may have seen the news earlier today doj
searches biden's delaware home for a second time searches just a search not raid not a raid no it's
it's only a raid when you're going after your political enemies right because joe biden basically is the doj they're just searching his uh his house so uh here's what
i want to point out we we had we titled this his home's raided because that's what they say of
donald trump they say his home was raided right and it's like donald trump was cooperating with
them letting them come in go through everything they went there twice they went to the first
time they put a lock on i said okay then, then they come back, break the lock off, take the documents, said you didn't cooperate
and it's like,
he was,
but the media does that thing.
Yeah.
Where if Trump does it,
it's evil.
If Biden does it,
it's no big deal.
No big deal.
Isn't his daily caller
and they're still calling it search?
And that's my point.
When I'm reading the Post Millennial
and even the Post Millennial
called Antifa domestic terrorists,
protesters,
I'm like,
come on guys.
Oh my gosh.
Libby was here and i told
her i'm like libby what are you doing she's like i know i know and then there was even even uh on
timcast.com we we an article was put up where it referred to them as protests and i'm like they're
not they're being charged with domestic terrorism so joe biden has the fbi go to his house and say
it was a planned search why is the fbi searching the home of the sitting president for illegally held classified documents?
What is this, the fourth search of his properties?
To be fair, you know, they've had a 100% success rate so far.
They raided his first home, definitely found documents.
Now they have to check the beach house and see if he left anything there.
They didn't find anything.
Yeah, I know.
But like, it's worked for them in the past.
We can't trust that he hasn't.
I mean, Biden spends an enormous amount of time at these two properties it's not surprising i am surprised
that they didn't check it sooner right and i would only object to the term search i think possibly
you could say it's a search because i'm sure the biden administration knew about it beforehand
whereas i don't think the same courtesy was extended to trump when they raided mar-a-lago
right yeah a raid is an act of aggression.
The search is like, hey, just so you know, we're coming.
Don't forget to move that stuff in your garage.
Yeah, and also, before this, before the entire Trump debacle,
the FBI had very low trust with the American people, so they're probably trying to make the FBI look more credible again, possibly.
That's a good point.
Could be one of their motives, for sure.
What was their reason for uh
going to his house anyway the delaware house did they have like a reasonable cause there's
probable cause for for something being there or was it just like they're calling it a search
yeah i think it's because he owns two properties in delaware one at rohoboth beach and one in
wilmington the wilmington is where they found the documents for so now they need to check the other
place where he spends a lot of time. One of the
weekends where they were searching his house, he just went
to his other house in Delaware, right?
These are places that he spends an enormous
amount of time. So if he is
doing something he's not supposed to do with documents,
it makes sense that you would check both properties.
It would be weird to leave one off the list.
I feel like every president would have
classified documents in their homes.
We talked about this one time. What is a classified document? Is it like a menu I feel like every president would have classified documents in their homes. I mean, and like, what is it?
We talked about this one time.
Like, what is a classified document?
Is it like a menu from a dinner?
Because at one point those were classified.
I don't know.
I mean, it is weird.
They were in his garage.
And whereas Trump had his like stored in the appropriate way.
But I mean, I think it's cover up.
Yeah.
I mean, the spin is is interesting.
I think that says a lot.
And I feel like this headline in particular, if you're not aware that i keep saying this but because he has two homes in delaware they're
like they checked his delaware home there's nothing there it sort of canceled out the
headlines from a couple weeks ago where it's like well we checked his delaware home and there were
documents i think i'm here's here's what i'm thinking why did why why are they going after
biden in his documents but biden's legal team i think his legal aides are the ones who actually informed the fbi they had the documents whereas with trump
they raid it's a legal issue imagine this you're joe biden and you want to dig up dirt on a
political opponent your principal political opponent or your merit garland garland basically
biden says oh won't someone rid me of this trump and merit garland goes i know exactly what you're
saying he then goes and says let's go raid trump's house. We're going to use the documents,
you know, the what was the law? What is the National Archives Act or whatever that law is?
Record Keepings Act or something. And they're going to use that as the pretext to stop Trump
from running from Trump running in 2024. And then Merrick Garland says, but hold on,
if this is going to work, we got to make sure Biden doesn't have the same problem.
He's got to be clean.
So then he orders the search of Biden's property, not because he's targeting Biden, because he's helping Biden.
I see.
And trying to make Trump look worse.
And if Biden gets out of office and then they did the raids, it would annihilate the Biden name.
It would make him, they'd be like, look, you've got all the same things, you hypocrite.
So they're just getting it out of the way. Is what you're saying they when they when they raided his house
the first time no one knew this was in november they covered it up they they they no one knew
it happened okay so i'm thinking you know we were talking about this last week like why would why
would they go after biden is the deep state trying to remove him like ending his 2024 chances maybe
it could be both it could
be this they know joe biden can't run in 2024 he's not going to win yeah they also don't want trump
to run and he will win what do you do oh oh geez oh biden you broke the record keeping you can't
run for president now oh man that means trump can't run either oh and then if trump tries to
run the bet hey look we even stopped biden for money because we're being fair interesting so he's like they're sacrificial lamb yeah well i mean
there's also like a lot of infighting going on with the democrats regarding biden whether he
should be the one to run in 2024 or should they replace him but after the midterms it seemed like
biden's approval rating went up so they stopped with the you know anti-biden stuff for a while
but i don't know maybe this will change things i mean he said he would announce after christmas right we're after
christmas he has not announced and i think that can only tell you that he wants to run yeah and
they don't want it's gonna be a progressive it might not be a liberal guy who who could i think
that's their biggest issue they don't have a clear front runner i know people have said newsome i know
people say kamala but like kamala's not likable the qual is not like well her her approval has always have always been lower than biden's and
that's saying something over at predict it you can buy there's a it's the prediction market thing
for those guys for those that don't know you buy shares in in a concept so it's like who will be
the democrats 2024 nominee and you can buy one share of Kamala Harris, yes, for nine cents. That means
if you buy a share for nine cents and she does become the nominee, you get a dollar or like a
dollar 10 or something like that. And that's a tremendous, that's a 10 to one return, right?
But come on, no sane person thinks she's going to be the nominee. I don't know why people are
buying shares in Kamala Harris, but here's the best part.
You can buy, no, she won't be for 91 cents.
Now that means for every 91 cents you spend when she invariably is not the nominee,
you get nine cents.
That sounds like free money to me.
I'm not giving financial advice.
I'm just saying.
It's kind of crazy where there's no way.
It's going to be really funny in 2024 or 2023, who knows when they're like kamala harris is the nominee and i'm just like wow i could not did not
see that coming i gotta tell you man if someone asked me to to make a large wager a large sum of
money on whether or not kamala harris would be the nominee i'd say no it's not gonna happen do
you guys think that in 2036, there will be a United States?
Or that we will have a president?
That we'll be able to have a president?
You think that we'll be structurally sound enough for it?
13 years from now?
Yeah, it'd be like four elections from coming or something.
It depends if there's a civil war coming or not.
I wonder, because we talk about if we just sit here and wait, is it going to be Kamala?
If we just sit here and wait, the world's going to blow itself up.
We have to, like, actively change the system.
I can't wait for idiot A or idiot B to become the next leader anymore.
I'm concerned that if we just play games and watch it like a TV show,
that the inevitable demise of the American way is around the corner.
I hate to make a bet but i do think
that they're in 13 years that that feels far right now but it's really not in the span of time anyone
who's in their 60s will probably tell you that like 13 years can go by really quickly i feel
like probably there's a country i would not be surprised if the party system looks different
and that might be wishful thinking on my part but i think it might be a little bit yeah but i think
that there's so much like the the criticism democrats and the left-leaning media always love yet republicans
is that they're they're infighting and they don't get along but the same thing is true for the left
right and i think as the youngest generation ages into being a solid voter block you know they are
the most likely to cross lines on tickets right if you ask them how they feel about different issues
it doesn't all fall in one camp so again wishful thinking on my part but i don't think the parties as we know them
today necessarily will be where be the same in 13 years i do think it's gonna get worse it's gonna
get more progressive on on the democrat side on the republican side too but they'll leave people
behind they both will leave people behind like we talk about this with like the shrinking middle
class like what if politics gives way to a solid middle class?
And that means ideologically, not financially block of voters, right?
The people who don't feel like they have a home in the Republican Party or the left.
I don't think the two party system is going to change anytime soon.
I mean, the Republicans and Democrats, they've collaborated and colluded to make sure that
never happens.
They've pretty much stopped independent candidates from
getting on the debate stage. I mean, the last time was Ross Perot. That's never going to happen
again. Unless, you know, the American people wake up. I don't see that happening anytime soon,
unless there is some sort of civil war. So I think the clearest sign would be if we had more
independent governors. I've thought that for a while because Oregon ran an independent who got
a fair amount of votes. She didn't win. They let the Democrat went in.
But I do think that like, yes, you're right.
Just like administratively, it seems really hard to imagine a non two party system.
But I just don't think I mean, it's not in our constitution or anything.
No, it's just the way things have worked out. Right.
But I just think that young voters are more likely to leave the idea of like you have to be one or the other behind.
It's hard, though, because there are states where you have to be one or the other behind it's hard though
because there are states where you have to register with a party to vote in that primary right and
that will be a difficult system to change well according to polling i think 48 to 50 percent of
americans are independent but then those independents end up voting either republican
or democrat when push comes to show because you have to to participate in the primaries you have
to be in the party yeah and in the general i'm talking about but as more as that gets left behind like
if we were to reverse states like there are so many states that you have to do that and there
are other states that don't want that if we didn't have to identify in the primaries i think you would
see a shift on the actual platform again wishful thinking on my part but or maybe it has to be a
top-down approach maybe maybe it needs to start on the national level it needs to start in the
presidential election for
it to trickle down. Yeah. It'd be
really interesting. Yeah. Let me pull up this story
right here from the Daily Mail. This is why I think that
the Joe Biden FBI raid
is actually a cover-up. Daily Mail reports
what else are they hiding?
White House claims transparency
face even more
scrutiny as it's revealed
National Archives was blocked from releasing statement on classified face even White House claims of transparency face even more scrutiny as it's revealed National
Archives was blocked from releasing statement on classified documents found at Biden's think tank.
The revelation came during questioning of Archives General Counsel Gary Stern by
top Republican James Comer. It raises questions over who stopped the release from going public.
That is to say, just before the midterms, when they raided Biden's home,
and they knew he had these documents, the National Archives were barred by someone.
It have to be either Biden or Merrick Garland. They said, do not make a statement. You are
barred from doing so. That means when the midterms came, everybody, nobody had the opportunity to learn this cbs news eventually reports it and
that's how we find out and now we're actually getting some some information as to what's going
on now there there there's more raids there's more searches when it can affect the democrats
exactly and this this says to me if it's garland or if it's biden they're covering it up well if
someone asked the national archives to
cover it up for sure a hundred percent if the archives were asked not to report they were
asked to cover and that means it was biden or garland so maybe the deep state is going after
biden and he said no no don't let him don't let anyone find out they're coming after me i don't
believe it because they're all deep state they're all establishment what likely happened is they
said we're going to use this against trump the documents but we got to make sure you're clean before we make that move. So we're going
to have the FBI come in and search, see if they can find anything, and then we'll move forward
with Trump. But then they inadvertently found stuff. That's how the story went. Yeah. When
did they raid Trump's house? When was that? In the fall. Was it November? Months ago, yeah.
Was it November? Looking it up now. This is an important question. Was it before or after?
August 8th.
August 8th is when they raided Trump's house.
Over the summer.
Yeah, so I kind of think they were like,
hey, look, this is a big story,
and they're trying to say,
maybe they do want Biden to run.
And they were like,
if they go hard on this Trump can't run for president
because of these documents,
we got to make sure Biden doesn't have the same problem.
Lo and behold, he does.
Interesting. I don't know. What do you think? Do you think it's a malicious cover-up a beneficial cover-up but going back to the deep state thing what other motives would the deep state have in
getting rid of biden aside from you know he's not good for the democrats i can't think of any other
motives because he's doing exactly what they want them and they don't need to get rid of him they
just need to be like okay joe uh we're gonna get somebody else i'm gonna go okay yeah i just don't buy the whole like yeah
the deep state is i mean i after him i think it's his health right like if they could have run him
again they would have but like again this sounds terrible but like he doesn't seem healthy this is
a continued issue like the other day he just announced he's extending COVID orders. And his office said May 11th, everyone do it.
And then he told reporters May 15th.
Like he can't keep basic important dates in mind, right?
He's a busy guy.
I guess he's got a lot going on.
But like, I think it's that personally, I think it's that he is not healthy enough to
run again.
And therefore, they have to replace him.
He doesn't want to.
But wouldn't that happen internally within the Democratic Party?
Would they need this, you know...
Not if he's going to say,
I'm running, I'm running.
You cannot make me go on that platform
and say I'm not running.
I will.
We'll see.
Like if he digs his heels in,
what are they going to say?
I mean, I think this has more to do
with making Trump look bad,
to be honest.
Making Trump look bad?
I mean, sorry, yeah.
Making him look better in comparison to trump
oh he got rated too but his wasn't that exactly his wasn't that bad precisely i think it has
yeah i don't know man it's also confusing because like we don't have the details maybe they just
screwed up they were trying to cover this up they told the national archives not to say anything but
then cbs news got the story out now they're scrambling. Yeah.
I don't know.
Maybe that's it.
Maybe Joe Biden can't run.
There was that former Clinton aide said, this is it for him.
It's going to be the end.
And I'm sorry.
I just don't feel that way.
I feel like Joe Biden could walk out on Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody in the face.
It's still going to work.
Not kidding.
Not kidding.
Trump was right when he was talking about that.
Yeah, for real.
The current state of American politics is, if you're in the cult, you're in the cult.
Yeah. The current state of American politics is, if you're in the cult, you're in the cult. There was a really great tweet I saw, and it said, if you are on the left, you are allowed to deviate from leftist economic policy without reprisal.
But you cannot deviate on gender ideology, race ideology, and that explains exactly what the left is.
And it's like, that's an interesting point.
If you're woke, but you say something like, I don't know if universal health care could work nobody cares yeah it's like
oh that's interesting right but if you are pro universal health care and you say hey that woke
stuff's nonsense they call you right wing yeah i mean it happens with minorities too you saw when
all of the muslims in dearborn protested against the sexualization of children they called them
terrorists you know these are the same mus same Muslims that the left pretended to defend
during the war on terror, et cetera.
Now they're calling them literal terrorists
because, you know, they're against woke.
I heard a story where it was like,
apparently some woman was at a diversity training
and they said, you know,
say your name and pronouns.
She said, oh, no, thank you.
I'm not religious.
And then people started chuckling
and then everyone refused to give pronouns.
And I'm like, yeah, maybe that happened happened it does kind of sound like a and then everyone
clapped kind of story you know because i don't i don't see people as uh willing to stand up like
i said joe biden could walk on a fifth avenue and shoot somebody and they'd still vote for him yeah
so i'm not i'm not convinced that the average person who's aware of what's going on with the
corruption the communism whatever you want to call, is willing to actually stand up and say anything. Because the story that breaks my heart,
we heard the other day from Matt Strickland, is that he defies these lockdown orders. He wins in
court. He wins the political battle. He was right the whole time. And he said, people call him and
say, what you did was great. How can I help you? And he says, do what I did. And they go, oh, no,
no, no, I couldn't do that. Oh, they'll come after me.
And that's how it feels.
Too many people are just like, no, no, no, no, don't look at me.
I'm going to stay right here where it's easy.
Yeah, they think it'll pass eventually, but it's only going to get worse.
We've seen this throughout history.
I mean, the gender pronoun thing.
I've made jokes saying, like on Twitter saying, yeah, there's going to be Republicans with
pronouns in their bios in 10 years. We'll see yeah yeah of course the joke i made is that the democratic
party is going to be hive mind singularity pod people versus transgender communists and that'll
be the republican party and you know the democrats will be the hive mind ai people yeah and they'll
be like hive mind rights and they'll start arguing that once you join the collective, you know, you have a right.
Like if a non-citizen becomes part of the collective, they retain their voting power because the collective is one unit or something like that.
And then they're going to be like, we need a new system of voting because rank choice voting doesn't work anymore.
They're going to be on like double bypass rank choice inversion voting where, you know, who you vote for the third time gets counted against you and some
weird you know anybody can vote and then they're going to be like well he's in the hive now so he's
we are one and that means you know he can he can vote and there's one vote and we vote for joe
biden again and that's you vote with your feelings in those situations because you just your feet
whoever has the most feeling is the one that would decide what the hive does yeah so in order to vote
in the future you walk into a room close your eyes and think real hard.
And then we record it.
Trust us.
We're getting the count right.
We know.
Yeah.
We got your vote.
Yeah.
And then they leave and it's like, oh, I wonder, you know, who's going to win.
And they're like 99.9% Joe Biden.
You know, I don't think that the gender stuff is just going to get worse.
You said earlier, like Chloe Cole gives me a lot of inspiration.
I'm not sure if you're familiar with her story.
She's like, she might be 19 at this point but she had underwent uh surgery like transgender surgery
and had her double mastectomy her breasts removed when she was like 13 or 14 i don't want to get
the numbers wrong um but it's right around that age i think it's 15 15 15 and then realized what
the pharmaceutical companies were doing to her or or enabling her to do to herself for profit
and uh came out and started speaking out against it and she's immensely popular right now with
all sorts of people from all ages so i think we went through a horrible period in the last
six years of pharmaceutical overreach in my opinion yeah and and digging into these kids for
money um but if you look at europe and you see how overly woke they are, you can tell that the trajectory of the U.S. is going to follow that of Europe.
Right. You know, they've all had these debates, the bathroom debates and everything.
And that their solution, for example, for the bathroom thing is that, you know, we're going to have unisex bathrooms.
So, I mean, that's just one example. But if you want to see the future of the U.S. in terms of wokeism and leftist ideology,
you look to Scandinavia and Western Europe.
And California.
Yeah, true.
Apparently, California is always five years ahead of the rest of the United States.
Yeah.
I covered this story a few years ago.
It was talking about something related to their weird policies and
it said historically the policies implement there make their way to the rest of the country within
five years so if you want to figure out where things are going to be in five years look at
california and if you do well then any sane person's going to get out of the city go to the
middle of nowhere and get some chickens because otherwise you're going to be walk around new york
and we walk around dc and there's going to be human feces all over the streets and there probably already are it's just that in san francisco it's
way way worse in sacramento it's worse but that's that's coming to a neighborhood near you well and
i would assume all the migration that happened during the covid lockdowns is going to influence
that right have you ever seen these maps of like how people migrated and a lot of them left
california and went to states you wouldn't have predicted. We always talk about this.
Texas.
Right.
They bring their ideology and their policies with them.
They're frustrated by what's happening in their state,
but not by everything.
They dislike one policy,
but they're going to keep most of the others.
Yep.
Naturally, the country is just going to move more left
in terms of sociocultural values.
I'm not so convinced.
Really?
Yeah, I think it's going to be...
So we started seeing this shift with Gen Z
because leftists don't have kids.
They have yours.
But that only goes so far
when you start getting a pushback in the culture war.
And I think mathematically,
it doesn't matter whether or not they indoctrinate kids.
I don't.
I think that all that matters is the birth rate.
If conservatives have even one kid per family
and democrats have none kids per family then the future even though will be a population reduction
will be way more conservative and then people argue yeah but the the woke are trying to
indoctrinate those kids yes but they don't exist in large enough numbers so if there's two leftist
teachers trying to indoctrinate your indoctrinate your child
then as they get older they're dying off maybe they convert 10 maybe let's say they convert
40 of all conservative children into woke that still means they are not replacing their own
ideological selves right and so over a long enough period like what's the conversion rate
you think for a conservative kid into a woke kid i don't think it's a party percent it's probably
very low yeah you grow up in a you grow up in a religious conservative family you probably become
slightly libertarian as you get older but you're still going to be somewhat conservative people go
through phases too i was i went through like a real uh post-modernist you can be whatever you
believe you are phase in my 20s and And then I realized the reality starts to set
and I realized, oh, people will starve
if we don't get resources from point A to point B.
You know, the whole, I believe is not good enough.
You know, reality, it will slap you in the face,
metaphorically, if you just play the,
I am what I think I am game.
Yeah, I think you were making a point
about generations, right?
So if generation Z,
if you're seeing like a conservative turn, usually the next generation will be more woke, right? So if you see backlash in a certain generation, you don't think so?
Pew Research shows that every generation starts skewing further and further left. But Gen Z was the first time in 100 years, it actually ticked back towards conservative because something else i read um baby boomers they were for their
for that time period they were woke you know they were against the vietnam war and etc but then
generation x that was the backlash generation but uh well jenna like they're all more progressive
yeah on everything like boomers were resistant to gay marriage gen xers were more accepting of it
millennials were completely accepting of it and, resulting in a favorable cultural environment
to legalize, or I should say to codify,
not even codify,
to rule in the Supreme Court that it just is.
Yeah, and I think it went from 20% in the 90s
to like 80% now.
I mean, support for gay marriage.
It's considered one of the fastest shifting
cultural issues of all time.
It's crazy, crazy.
I wonder how Alpha is going to turn out. I mean, if Zoomers are this way, then... It's not about of the fastest shifting cultural issues of all time. I wonder how alpha is going to turn out.
I mean, if zoomers are this way, then.
It's not about how they turn out.
It's about who has the kids.
Oh, yeah.
And conservatives have more kids than liberals.
And liberals are now more likely to sterilize and more likely to abort their children.
So it's only a matter of time.
I don't, you know, people talk about all the politics and they're like, yeah, but they're
in schools and they're indoctrinating.
And I'm just like,
doesn't matter. Math,
you're not going to change it.
Over a long enough period of time,
it's like saying,
you go to a casino,
I said if I was going to
make a bet on Kamala
Harris, people were like, Tim's got a gambling problem
because I always do the gambling analogy. But if you
go to a casino, the house has an edge.
Like, how is it that you can play all these games?
The house always wins because in blackjack, they have a 0.5% higher chance of winning.
That means you can win a million dollars.
It doesn't matter.
Over the year, they win 0.5% of all of those bets statistically.
And that's all that matters.
And that's what I'm talking about with wokeness.
They can do whatever they want. They can indoctrinate this kid and this kid they can get
greta thunberg up on the big tv but over a long enough period of time their attrition rate is just
too high if they want to abort their kids and stare look aborting their kids was one thing
right the leftists liberals are substantially more likely to get abortions than christians
conservatives etc and that right there is a hard mathematical fact which is why many people wereologists liberals are substantially more likely to get abortions than christians conservatives
etc and that right there is a hard mathematical fact which is why many people were saying for a
while the future is muslim because muslims have even more kids than christians and that's that's
that's the number that's all that matters however now liberals are sterilizing their kids so that
means it's almost like a retroactive removal from future gene pools. Basically,
if you go back to the 1990s and check abortion rates, you're going to be like, we can do the
math. Liberals were aborting at this rate, conservatives at this rate. You're going to
see more conservatives. Guess what? We are. Conservatives are having more kids. Liberals
are having less kids. Why? Because liberals are aborting their babies. So in the early 2000s,
conservatives were having, I think it was like 2.05 kids on average,
and liberals were having like 1.73.
Now what do we see?
Gen Z, slightly more conservative in some areas, but fairly comparable to millennials.
Now, here's what they didn't track for.
When they were talking about abortion, or they weren't talking about abortion, they
said, do liberals have kids?
Do conservatives have kids? And the answer was conservatives have more. Why? They were probably
banging at the same rate or similar rates, but liberals were having abortions, reducing
that number. Now, and the fact that those kids from the 2000s, who are 23 today, have a higher
likelihood of being sterilized, being chemically castrated or transitioning, or
just outright not wanting to have kids as per leftist ideology.
So you add that, and now those people will not have children.
So the birth rate on the left is going to go down further.
Personally, I'm not a fan of any of that stuff.
I think people should have families and they'll enjoy it.
But if the left doesn't want to have kids, that's the future that they've built.
Yeah.
There it is.
Makes sense.
Makes sense. I didn't know any of that actually it assumes um you know stable system peaceful system um it doesn't well because slavery is real too like human slavery if if if a liberal society
were to go full militant and just start killing and enslaving children um then they then it would
be like it doesn't you know that that would have won you tell me you're telling me that you think that if the the the circumstances
in the united states become substantially more arduous then it's then liberals will do better
no i think the ideology is destined for failure that personal ideology of cutting up kids and
making them take their penis off when they're 12.
Like that's not going to work.
And I'm not saying that's like in massive numbers in the millions.
It's in the thousands, maybe even tens of thousands.
And it may be reversing because of what we're seeing with people like Chloe Cole. you make a an easy comfortable system you will start seeing more liberals and leftists but they
want gluttony more than conservatives want gluttony but many conservatives do so they abort and
sterilize their kids but then you give them hardship and conservatives are substantially
more likely to survive that hardship because of meritocracy personal responsibility and things
like that so if it does become a, all that means is more liberals will struggle to succeed.
Maybe.
I was just thinking of the Soviet Union because that was a real liberal uprising.
They were all like wacky, radical leftists, and they just killed everyone else and took
control physically.
So enforced the ideology, if not for other countries around earth and and what won out
in the end was i wouldn't call it yeah it was oligarchy yeah but then that period of the 90s
where you know oligarchs ruled everything you know they liked western liberalism but now there's
backlash right and now they want to revive the soviet union in russia i mean stalin is the most
popular figure in russia and they yeah literally want to go back Soviet Union in Russia. I mean, Stalin is the most popular figure in Russia.
And they, yeah, literally want to go back to the Soviet Union.
Yeah.
How is that happening?
Who wants that?
And what do they want exactly?
Well, I mean, if you look at polling data, Western polling data, Stalin is the number
one most popular figure.
And if you talk to Russians these days, they want to go back to the days of the Soviet
Union because that period of the 90s was just so horrible for the Russian people.
And then Putin changed everything when he came in in 2000.
You know, Russia was declining.
Economy was really bad.
And then, you know, slowly he reindustrialized and then changed the economy for the better.
And now, you know, Putin has been very good for the Russian people.
Well, and maybe you can speak to this, but don't most Russian people not want
what modern Western values are, right?
No, they don't.
I mean, they admire the West
because of, you know, Hollywood and everything.
Of Westerns, maybe?
Yeah, because of the cultural power that the West has,
but they are completely against Western liberal values.
In fact, there was a bill that was just passed
where they expanded the anti-LGBT law that they had.
And this was, you know, across the board, every party agreed with it.
They were like, no, we're not going to have this LGBT gender ideology propaganda in Russia.
You know, that's for the West.
So it's hardening them even more.
So I saw an interview with Putin, a bunch of college kids, and they were like, you could see they wanted him to be like yes we are now a liberal democracy but he wasn't he was staying
hard and they yeah then uh they were like what you what a senior or whatever he called him putin
what should i do as a man in russia and putin was like you should learn to cook and he was like
everyone laughs he's like no as a real man a russian man there's like this misogynist energy
behind it all i knew that that stood out to me that there's this intense like misogyny in the Russian,
in that guy, in that guy.
And Putin still was like, no, no, you should learn to cook.
Because the economy is about to go to crap.
He didn't say that part, but that's what he was saying.
It's a very macho culture.
I mean, I've been to Moscow.
And then you see it in the UFC as well.
Look at all of the Russian fighters and everything.
You know, they're doing really, really well.
They're dominating
the MMA world.
And that's part of their culture.
You know,
men should be men
and women should be women.
You know,
women embrace their femininity.
They don't reject it
and they don't try
to be more masculine.
Like,
you know,
it is here.
When you were saying
that they want to bring back,
people want to bring back
the Soviet Union,
do they want,
do they know what they want
or is it just that
they want something better
than what they have and they're well it's actually um uh
older russians that experience the soviet union that want it back the most it's interesting
because it's the opposite right because in the u.s you have young millennials that are more socialist
and then the older people here uh they're like anti-socialist anti-communist but in russia younger people they're more into you know liberal values but then the older people here, they're like anti-socialist, anti-communist. But in Russia, younger people, they're more into liberal values.
But then the older people who experience communism, they want the Soviet Union back.
So it's like the complete opposite.
Is this derived through polls and things?
Polls, yeah, mostly through polls.
And then I don't necessarily go with lived experiences, but that was my experience in Russia as well.
How long did you live in Russia?
I was there for a month you know i was there for work but uh it was a uh enlightening experience
because it killed whatever progressivism and leftism i had in me because it was a totally
different culture i'd never really gone elsewhere aside from you know like western europe so um it's
a very anti-progressive, anti-woke culture.
I mean, it's pretty much built in.
It's very interesting going to Russia.
You said it killed the wokeism out of you?
Whatever progressivism I had inside of me,
you know, from, you know, like the Bernie days,
it was just completely gone.
I became less, I became more politically incorrect.
You know.
But see, the thing with Bernie, he wasn't...
He wasn't woke.
Yeah, it wasn't the same thing.
He did that interview, that famous interview,
where he was like, you got to secure the borders.
You got to secure the borders.
And then the World Socialist website called him a nationalist capitalist
because he wanted to shut the borders down.
And these people are global socialists.
And then he changed his whole shtick, right, in 2020.
And that's why I think he lost the primary.
Because, you know, he went full on the id poll and the gender ideology and all that stuff.
So it's like, yeah, that's why he destroyed himself.
Yeah, sorry, it sounded like a weirdo.
And regular people were like, I don't know what that's all about.
This guy's crazy.
It went from unite the working class to identity politics in 2020. That's how do it that's how they do with occupy wall street they do with bernie
sanders yeah i feel like we didn't mention it but it would be remiss not to point out that
universities are also not quite as popular as they were like you hear this all the time people say
you send your kid to university and they move more left even if they were raised in a conservative
family but studies are showing i mean especially with covid we saw so many people opt not to return to college and feel like it wasn't worth it
people are aware of how much of a financial burden it is well even elon musk is saying
college is useless and you know if you want to work at tesla you don't need to have a bachelor's
degree right and this is more and more thought also like if i'm going to take on however much
amount of debt to not make that much money versus someone who goes into a trade or any other thing who gets a head start who is making more money than you are
even after your four-year degree it doesn't make any sense uh the national clearinghouse put out
this study released from uh enrollment from last year and they found that the enrollment was down
across the board master's degrees any program definitely down among undergraduates but it it's significantly down among women for the first time in a really long time,
which I find interesting. We've known for a while that men are declining. Fewer men are
enrolling in college than women. But now, just in the last year, I can't say it's a full-on trend,
but you saw twice as many women didn't return to college, didn't enroll for the first time,
I think, ever. I wonder whether it is, you know, with like Elon Musk and many others.
I think Peter Thiel talking about how college is useless.
We often said, or the belief was, the reason men weren't going to college was because they were lazy
or they were living in their parents' basements and things like that.
I'm wondering if dudes just figured it out.
Yeah, I think they did.
And women are continually under this social pressure where they're like,
you've got to go to school and get a degree so you can be a CEO because of patriarchy. Yeah, I think they did. And women are continually under this social pressure where they're like, you've got to go to school
and get a degree
so you can be a CEO
because of patriarchy.
And you have to prove yourself.
You have to prove that you are
just as good as all the men
in your class
by getting the degree.
Whereas men don't necessarily
feel that same kind of pressure
and they are capable
of doing all kinds of things.
Not that women aren't,
but they're like,
I'll just pursue this thing
over here.
I also think traditional
learning environments
aren't suited for most men, right?
Like, it's not typical. I mean, we didn't do this for a long time to have you also employers are also saying that college graduates are not prepared adequately for you know working and
everything yeah it's useless it's just a holding pattern i mean at one point academics like
universities and schools they really were sort of interesting places they prepared you to
work but i don't think that's true anymore i mean i went to a four university and i was grateful for
the experience but i knew so many people who enrolled in master's programs because they
didn't want to be adults yet yeah and they also say that um college graduates lack critical
thinking skills because they're taught to memorize i mean that's the american education system
especially in college you're not rewarded for thinking critically and analytically.
I want to talk to you guys about that TV show, The Last of Us.
Have you guys seen it?
No, never heard of it.
Have you guys ever played the video game?
Negative.
So it's a video game that came out, I think it's like 10 years old.
The show is huge right now.
It's on episode three.
They've already renewed it for second season.
It's got Pedro Pascal in it.
I think his name is.
And it's really good.
Three episodes in. what's it about uh cordyceps the fungus that takes over insects
bodies and turns them into zombies mutates to infect humans society collapses fungus it's this
thing that looks like a mushroom or make people look like mushrooms yeah cordyceps the type of
mushroom according to paul stamets the world leading mycologist cordyceps do not eat humans
right i believe well that's the point of the show that shows that it mutates and does and then According to Paul Stamets, the world-leading mycologist, cordyceps do not eat humans, I believe.
Well, that's the point of the show.
The show is that it mutates and does.
And then basically the world collapses.
But the reason I want to talk to you about this third episode, it's particularly culturally relevant as it pertains to medical assistance in death, in dying or whatever they call it.
And the show is about a post-apocalyptic gay relationship.
And so the reason I brought it up is we were just talking about the differences between men and women in college, and it got me thinking about this.
So I said, like, there's
an interesting dynamic that I was talking about earlier
where you've got all these people saying
this is one of the best TV shows
ever made because it depicts
a prepper. The world ends.
Three years later, he's all alone for
three years. He meets a guy and then
becomes gay, I guess, because he wasn't before and then it depicts spoiler alerts i'll try to avoid
most heavy spoilers if you haven't seen the show but it depicts this like story of them living
together in the apocalypse and then in the end the controversy being generated around it is that
his one guy one guy's like sick and they're old and there's no doctors. So he's like, I want you to poison me and I'll die.
And then the other guy is like, I won't do it.
That's wrong.
And he's like, it's my life.
It's my choice.
And this is how I'm going to go out.
And then he's like, okay, fine.
And then I already warned you guys, major, major spoiler alert.
Like it's in all over the news.
And I'm going to spoil it because, you know, it's an advice spoiled part of it.
But it's because like the medical assistance and dying thing going on in Canada.
The dude then basically crushes up a bunch of pills, puts it in a bottle of wine, and then tricks the guy and poisons himself along with the guy.
And then he says it's the most, objectively, it's the most romantic thing ever done.
And so you have these two guys committing suicide together
and they're glorifying it glorifying it and then people are coming out now saying it's like the
greatest episode of tv ever made and stuff like that and i'm like i gotta be honest it was good
it was i mean to modern take on romeo and juliet well the one thing i wanted to bring up is the
yeah sorry like the gay relationship elicits no emotion in me at all it just it just
really doesn't and then i'm not trying to be a dick to gay people like by all means if you like
dudes do your thing i got no i got no beef but what i'm hearing in the media is that it's like
it's so romantic these two guys are like they love each other so much the guy decided if you die i'm
gonna die with you and they both poison themselves. And I'm just like... The glorification of suicide.
That's scary.
And then calling it romantic.
And I'm just like, I wouldn't find it romantic.
It's tragic in Romeo and Juliet.
It's tragedy.
It's not romance.
But what we're seeing now is, culturally, medical assistance in dying is being...
They're pushing it.
It's more favorable.
In Europe, they're doing it.
In Canada, they're doing it. We more favorable in europe they're doing it yeah in
canada they're doing it we had those stories where like the veteran calls and he's like i need help
and they're like have you considered dying and now we get a tv show that i'm not it's not like
it's a young girl you know like a 20 year old being like i've decided to die and then dying
or like a suicide because that's that's depicted in shows all the time it's like two guys who are
alive and one guy saying you know what today's my last day because i've chosen it and then he's like let's go for it and then they call it romantic and
they're it's all heartwarming i don't know man i just feel like whether it's intentional or not
this is what we're going to start seeing in the future yeah we're already seeing it in canada
we're already seeing it in europe how long until you think it comes to the united states 10 years
suicide booths like in futurama I mean it's assisted suicide
is legal in Washington
and Oregon already
it's already here
there it is
it's not a question
I mean
there's this documentary
called How to Die in Oregon
I've probably referenced it
a million times
but this is one of the things
that happens
a man is on
you know
state healthcare
and he has a tumor
and the state won't pay
for his treatment
it's too expensive
it's beyond what he's permitted
but they will pay
for his assisted suicide that's what they're doing in canada
yeah it's i mean but this movie came out easily 10 years ago i mean this is something that we
already had and we're just seeing the effects play out all the time i think what's weird about
this show having never seen it is like it goes against what we might say is like the glorification
of like the west right so like i've been watching the show yellowstone and like all the other ones and like there is a fight to survive right like
if you're in a post-apocalyptic world i don't really know maybe you don't feel like there's
anything worth left living for but like at our core i think people want stories where it's like
but i push through anyways because it is worth it because ultimately we are like glorious in our in our victory so this
was a component of the episode like basically and again spoiler alerts in the end the main character
goes to the house because they were friends and then he's like where is he and there's a note
and the guy writes this letter saying i used to hate everybody and i hated everything
but then i realized i learned that there actually was one person worth saving and
that's what i did i saved him i give to you all my equipment use it to save those you love blah blah
and i'm just like yo this at this show i i i'm wondering if it's like they're trying it's
wokeness yeah that they're having two they're two bearded burly looking dudes in a relationship and i felt like it just doesn't resonate i do not feel
this man's love i do not i felt nothing from it in the previous episode joel's significant other
tess sacrifices herself she gets bit to save them and blows herself up that i felt and then what i
did feel in the end of the episode is when he writes the guy's like use my equipments to save to save tests or to protect her but she's already dead
and so that was like brutal like all of a sudden you're in this post-apocalyptic world you have
nothing no gas no cars he's like they're showing like a plane crash it's like we used to be able
to fly we can't anymore and then this guy who was a prepper has all of this amazing stuff and he's
like it's yours now use it to Tess and she's already dead.
Yeah.
That was brutal.
I feel like this wokeness,
I don't know what is this.
Is this like Democrat,
predominantly females
going,
aw,
they love each other
and then it's like
moderate dudes
just being like,
yeah, sure, I guess.
You know?
I don't know.
What do you guys think?
I didn't see it
but I think when two actors
are doing a love scene, if they actually love each other as people, it reads in the movie like in The Notebook.
Ryan Gosling and the girl – I can't remember that girl's name.
But it was like just – it's a gut-wrenching movie.
I don't know if you guys have seen it before.
I cried when I saw the movie.
But they actually fell in love while they were shooting that.
If these dudes in The Last of Us don't actually have emotions for each other, but they're just playing the character of a gay lover,
it's going to be, you're going to hear about it.
The lizard brain is going to be like,
you're like the seal in you is going to clap,
but no one, it's not real.
It's the idea of it that they love.
But if there's no love there, then there's no love there.
I mean, I just felt like I was watching this show
and you're supposed to be sad
that these two people are in love with each other
and they're dying. And I'm like, I don't see'm like i don't see it i don't see it i don't feel
it it doesn't if it was if it was a woman i would have understood yeah or what if they were like
father and son yes i was talking about this earlier if it was like a guy and his kid and
his kid gets bit and he has to kill him you'd be like oh man like so brutal or it's the dad
who like throws the cat out of the way and gets bit. That was literally
the second episode.
Tess,
who is the woman,
significant other for Joel,
they're fighting these things
and then she's like,
let's go.
And then she's in,
they go to this place
and the zombies find out or something.
And then the kid's like,
she's infected.
And then he's like,
show me.
And he sees the bite
and he's like, no.
And then she's like,
get out of here.
And she sacrifices herself and it's brutal to watch. But yeah, I was like, show me. And he sees the bite and he's like, no. And then she's like, get out of here. And she sacrifices herself.
And it's brutal to watch.
But yeah, I was like, if this episode was like a guy and he meets some teenage kid.
And then over the next five, six years, he's teaching the kid how to shoot.
And he's teaching the kid how to prep and survive.
And then it ended with him like throwing the cat out of the way and then getting bit on the arm.
And the kid has to shoot him and he's crying.
Would have been the most brutal episode ever.
But two adult, burly, bearded men. I am not trying to be be a dick i don't care if that's your thing that's your thing i just i
don't feel like that resonates i don't know i just broke back mountain i did not i didn't either
you guys see that was it good i heard it was phenomenal uh i have no i mean the one from 2005
you know jake gyllenhaal i mean i didn't think it was that great. I thought it was just a cultural message.
I think a guess that I had
is that they actually
started to have
emotional feelings.
I'd like to ask Jake
if that happened.
But he killed himself
not that long after.
I think he was like
doing a lot of drugs,
really was like,
am I gay?
What's wrong with me?
And then, you know,
it gets,
I know an actor in college
that did a gay,
a play where he was gay
and the other actor was gay and was just loving making out with him on stage.
And then my buddy hung himself.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
20 years later, but he hung himself.
And he told me at one point, that play still sticks with me in the back of my mind.
As a formalist, he felt like prostituted into it for the role because it was a great role.
Wow.
Anyway, it's a little off base
yeah but it's not fake like when you're doing these scenes you actually do begin to feel these
things and if these actors were on guard from that uh it won't play you'll know that in the
scene you won't feel it because they're guarded from it it's the danger of being an actor one of
the dangers of being an actor god you know love heath ledger what that guy went through i don't
know man the thing about the the medical ac at suicide, to go back to that point,
is that if we're talking about somebody who's bedridden
and has no way to pay their bills,
and the doctor's like, you've got three weeks left,
and they're just like, well, you know, I'm in agony and pain,
and the morphine's not cutting it anymore.
What do you guys think?
So my question is, do you think that depression eventually will
be used as like a acceptable i guess justification for doing this for going through this process i
think that just happened if i i should pull the story really quickly but there is a uh there was
a girl in so if you can prove you're depressed then you can kill yourself she was it's it's in
europe and i should i'll look it up in a second but there was a girl who survived belgium you're right you're right she um she was going on a class trip
she was in an airport and the airport was in a bombing and she apparently developed really serious
post-traumatic stress syndrome and had all kinds of issues hospitalized law attempted suicide and
eventually was granted permission to go through assisted suicide because she said her depression
was so crippling she could never get over it and this girl was like what 18 19 i mean she was young so you know
what's the limit you know are they going to go i'm not saying i agree with that i just know i'm just
saying in general like what's the limit adhd is that gonna be accepted i mean it's like a weird
form of eugenics i feel like yeah right we're just eliminating you can't hack it i guess acne i mean i don't know like i kind of am oh i don't really care about the assisted suicide stuff i
don't know am i am i crazy i never have i'm like if you want to kill yourself kill yourself what
who cares like because so many humans because everybody always regrets it they don't actually
want to do it that's what we were talking the other day everybody who jumped off the golden
gate bridge and survived said the first thing that happened was they regretted doing it yeah so you have these people who are feeling
fear or panic they're scared they're in pain and they think it's the only way to make it stop
and they regret it and so the goal is to help them not do that because it's the wrong thing
like i knew a guy like the guy i was just telling you guys about he wanted to die so he killed
himself no one could stop him but then at another instance
i know a girl that tried to kill herself a couple times and then she didn't and now she's got a
family so and i assure you your friend was if it was live today he'd be like i'm sure glad that
didn't happen yeah i think so he was like something horrible's coming man he was like really it was
like 27 no it's 2019 when he killed himself it was like 2015 he told me like something bad's happened he left new york city it's like something bad's coming dude he was like, really? It was like 27, no, it was 2019 when he killed himself. It was like 2015. He told me like something bad's happened.
He left New York City.
He's like, something bad's coming, dude.
He was like the best actor I knew, too.
But do you feel like because he felt like something bad was happening,
he should have been able to kill himself, right?
Like if you were in a position to have influence over it,
which of course you weren't, it's a horrible thing to ask.
But like with assisted suicide or what they often refer to as euthanasia, right?
Like euthanasia, you feel like you're putting someone out of their misery.
And that's why it starts with these conversations about people who are in very serious organ failure.
They have very serious cancers.
They will not survive.
And so is it a higher quality of life to let them choose when to end?
The problem is if you open the door to medically assisted suicide, it will expand.
Exactly.
I'm concerned that some people, if they want to die and you don't let them, that they will lash out and start ruining other people's lives and making the world a worse place.
But that's on the individual level. starting this whole like medically assisted suicide trend is, is much worse. And then,
you know,
the individual consequences of,
you know,
one person lashing out in their own community versus,
you know,
starting this global trend.
Right.
You know,
it also like,
it also reduces the friction in doing so.
It's very difficult to do.
It's not as easy as everyone thinks it is to just,
you know,
go ahead and do it.
That's what we'll get drunk.
We'll like do a bunch of drugs before they do it.
They don't just,
you know,
if you make it nice hospital setting with doctors, like helping you do it that's people get drunk people like do a bunch of drugs before they do it they don't just you know if you make it a nice um hospital setting with doctors like helping you do it and your
family surrounding you holding your hand saying it's a good thing that's creepy exactly it makes
it way easier yeah or romantic right yeah exactly it sure does seem like they don't want a lot of
people i'm thinking of apoptosis cellular apoptosis when you got cells in your body they
they pre-program themselves to die like some cells when they're no longer needed or they're causing
damage to the system because they're taking too many resources they will kill themselves on purpose
to make the body healthier and i i think humans are fractally doing that similar thing i mean
there are cultures right where that's the expectation for people who are too old or too
sick they're supposed to like remove themselves from the society.
But I don't know that that is something that I would personally be okay with.
It would be really difficult for me to accept that.
People are pointing out that in the beginning of the show,
people commented that a portion got dropped or deleted.
I was talking about Biden getting raided and it was gone.
And we've had so many of these kind of things happen that i don't believe they can be coincidences because it's just
it happens a lot so someone just super chatted that they just started watching and in the beginning
the intro was cut like you can't actually hear me talk about what happened with biden but we talk
about them again and again and again throughout this show i want to tell everybody what happened
with turning point usa i'm not sure we ever actually talked about it but when we went live with turning point usa you may have noticed
we were late we weren't late actually we were on time the stream started right on time and then
what happened serge remember there you guys were like it it says we're live but we're not coming up
nothing's right right yeah it was it was live to us and it's live on my feeds and but nobody could
see it they were like where's the's the show? The show's delayed.
And then I got messages and they were like,
people were telling me after the show,
they were like, hey, the show didn't go up for like 10 minutes.
But we were live streaming on our end.
Everything was going through.
And I'm wondering if, you know, we had Charlie Kirk,
we had Bannon, we had James Lindsay,
we had Luke Krakowski, you and me.
I'm wondering if the people at YouTube were like,
boss, what do we do?
Tim Pool, Bannon, Kirk, Luke Krakowski, Ian, James Lindsay you and me i'm wondering if the people at youtube were like boss what do we do tim pool bannon kirk
luke krakowski ian james are on stage in a massive stadium with thousands of seats and they're gonna
talk at this massive convention what do we do with this and then they were like holding pattern and
then they watched us and they were like okay they're gonna holding pattern let me get confirmation
from the boss as to what to do and they were like let it go let it go i'm wondering
if any if anyone else did something like this like these kind of that exact conversation were
to happen i'd imagine they would have gotten a strike and they've gotten banned but i wonder
if youtube was scared like we cannot defend against a lawsuit from from turning point from
steve bannon and and from Tim Pool,
all at the same time over this.
And because they're on stage
at this massive convention center,
the PR damage from taking the show down
would be so massive.
So that's a possibility.
Elon Musk needs to buy YouTube.
Yeah, good luck.
But the reason I think it's possible
that they've got their thumb on the scale
is because you guys who watch the show
consistently know this.
There was one episode where Luke started talking
about the CIA and then the stream cut off.
Wow.
Yep, dropped off.
Like Luke made some specific points
and then stream just stops
and then kicks back in a few seconds later
and people are like, what did Luke just say?
What was he saying?
And that's literally what happens now
and it happens a lot.
Maybe, maybe it's just like a random glitch that happens.
Yeah.
Perhaps.
Perhaps.
It could be.
But it happens a lot, you said.
But it doesn't happen during like we're talking about a TV show.
It doesn't happen we're talking about Quantumania or Thanos or anything like that.
It's always specific topics.
Only when we're like the intelligence agencies are doing this thing and drop.
But it could happen at other times.
We just wouldn't know because no one would say anything because we weren't talking about anything.
Right.
And I'd also see that the drop frames
would tell me that we're dropping frames
in a huge number.
It would tell me that it's not doing that,
but it's not.
Behind the scenes at mines,
I would tell you that
don't assume malfeasance.
If there's technical glitches,
it's very easily like AWS is acting up.
Your servers are, you know.
I don't.
They're transferring data
from one server to another.
I'm done believing it's all just a mistake.
We've been talking about censorship and big tech for seven, eight years now.
I mean, longer, actually, maybe even nine years.
Luke was getting demonetized before anyone knew what the word was.
Someone was manually going, check this out.
We all know what it means to be demonetized on YouTube these days.
You got a little dollar sign icon on your video.
You go in one day, it's yellow.
And it says, you know, ads limited.
When Luke from We Are Change was making videos,
this is back in like 2011,
I'm hanging out with him.
And then one day he's like,
dude, my ads are turned off again.
And in his account,
the little green icon,
it was a circle back then,
is grayed out. He'd have to go back in the video and activate it was a circle back then is grayed out he'd have to go
back in the video and activate it again then he'd come back later and they'd all be gray again and
he'd go in and turn them on turn them on turn them on turn them on because there was no formal
demonetization process yeah someone at google or youtube was manually axing his account and taking
ads off of each individual video so So we know that was happening then.
Then they created the system to automate it.
Now we have this.
Look, I went and hung out at the offices of Ustream back in the day.
Do you guys remember Ustream?
Yeah, we used to stream on that.
With the letter U.
That's where Joe Rogan started streaming, wasn't it?
He used to do Joe Rogan Experience on Ustream.
I believe so.
And they had guys sitting at a table with a bunch of computers.
And on the monitors, there would be like 50 live streams all going at once.
And I'm like, what is this?
And they're like, we basically just watch all of it.
And if someone looks like they're becoming a problem, we move them over into this panel on the left.
And then basically they look for people who are about to break the rules or they think might break the rules.
Take them from the main grid and put them in the select box.
And then if that person takes their shirt off or does something, they nuke it right away.
Take the stream right down.
Yeah, I highly doubt it's all a coincidence. I know YouTube has that.
Right.
YouTube has to have way more sophisticated tools than that.
Yeah, they probably have AI watching language.
I wouldn't even be surprised if they have AI reading voice cadence.
So if you start
to get agitated,
it can tell.
Yep.
So the trick is
to just deliver
horrible messages
in a monotone?
In a super cool,
calm way,
don't move your eyebrows.
Yeah, very still.
Well, I think they have
humans who watch.
And for a show like this,
as big as it is,
I'm willing to bet
that there's like 10 shows
and they have like one guy
who's watching
all at the same time.
Or, more importantly, I'm willing to bet for a show this big, they like one guy who's watching all at the same time or more importantly i'm willing to bet for a show this big they have one guy who's hired to watch
the show as least one guy probably one person and they're like people because your show rogan show
and a few others yeah any big live streams will probably have groups of joe's not on youtube
anymore oh right true yeah but but all the big live streams i suppose i can only say don't i
agree with you don't believe that nothing is going can only say don't i agree with you don't believe
that nothing is going on but just don't believe anything about it don't believe that it's people
they're twisting knobs don't believe that it's the data getting corrupted like there's no way to know
so there's no point in coming in with a strong belief on it but i would like to know i would say
it seems highly probable that is the case yeah honestly it does just because when i'm watching this it
seems fine all the time and i will see comments about you know i'm not getting it recommended
i haven't i have a couple accounts on my phone and i check and make sure i'm still getting
notifications and sometimes i don't get notifications some of those accounts and
sometimes i do get notifications the show is live on some accounts so but i mean the turning point
usa thing was really weird yeah because i get off the stage
and then i'm told immediately the show didn't go live for like 10 minutes it didn't go live it was
very stressful for the rest of us backstage being like what is happening because we could see it in
the monitors but we you know like the first thing i did was pull up on youtube and and you think
maybe there'll be a 30 second delay right like you think it's a big show i don't remember how
long our lag is anyways, whatever.
Like it doesn't kick in and we all sort of turn to each other.
When was this?
This was December.
How long ago was that?
Two months?
Yeah, a couple months.
Oh, yeah, right.
End of November.
Amfest?
December 15th.
Oh, wow.
Beginning of December.
Fairly recent.
As a quick aside, the poll says people think the FBI raid on Biden, 55% say it was a cover-up, 45% say deep state removal.
But again, we had on more than one occasion, Luke would start talking about the intelligence agencies and things they've done.
And then all of a sudden the show would drop for like 20 seconds or something.
We could double blind test on Rumble.
I mean, that's some advice is we could try a different platform and see if it happens again.
But the thing is, it happens spottily.
And it could be not even Alphabet, the company.
It could be like CIA.
Well, we can test it out now and continue talking about the CIA and the FBI and see if it drops off.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's definitely certain topics.
It's definitely topic-based.
I'm loathe to go that direction direction to start assuming for sure that it's
because of the topic yeah i can understand why it would be i get it and you have you honestly have
more uh you know experience with this than i would but in my experience it seems like it's
topic-based and what i've seen in the past i've watched the show for years it's definitely seems
like there's you know can you guys listening uh admitting at youtube right now super chat us and
let us know
if there are tech technologies you're using to mute and oh they have to have it just let us know
you know you know how i i guarantee you i i i would say there is no less than a 100 chance
they have that ability you know why because a crackpot psychopath live streamed himself going
into a church in New Zealand.
Right, right, right.
That kind of stuff has happened before.
It's happened more than once.
And I'm sure when that happened, every big tech platform said, we need the ability to instantly shut down any stream.
We need robot AI, whatever, tracking noises.
YouTube has a rule that you cannot do anything with guns live so if you want so if
you if you're on youtube and you have a gun channel you can go out to your range and do
tutorials and like um um who's that uh who's what's that gun channel hickok 45 i think is a
good one yeah have you ever seen it and so everything that's all fine and they're like
yeah you can do that's totally fine because it's recorded not live though right yeah and it has to
be in the proper setting so it can only be at a gun shop to display the weapon or it
can be on the range where it's safe so i'm willing to bet they've got workers and ai and i bet the
workers get alerted when the ai flags something right yeah and there's also a lot of pressure
from all of these different organizations with a lot of money um on social media platforms to censor content to you know
go after discrimination hate speech uh violence etc so you know what about remember all those uh
facebook uh censors who are not necessarily censors but they were i think they would be
considered censors they were watching facebook material and so there's uploaded to facebook to
check it with for wasn't that a whole big story and that kind of disappeared they were talking
about how it was you know detrimental to their health how they, how they were watching so much negative content all the time,
and it was damaging them.
Remember that?
Well, Ian did it too.
Yeah.
I did a video about that in 2018.
That was right after that idea broke, 2017,
when people started coming out.
They'll hire people to look at the darkest dregs.
I mean, stuff will go up on YouTube.
Are you talking about the TikTok lawsuit?
I'm so sorry.
Oh, no problem.
No, no, no.
I'm talking about-
Because there was a TikTok lawsuitok on facebook yeah the censors are seeing so much
yeah murder and child abuse the burnout rates yeah you know there's there was um tiktok contracts
tiktok contracts to a third party and they filed a class action lawsuit for some more reason i'm
sure your video is the third party filed one against tiktok yeah for damages because they
say they just see terrible
awful things and they have to like they'll work part of it is like they'll work really long shifts
right and then like without a break from anything they're just taking in all this terrible yeah it's
not it was 24 7 for me so i'd go in i'd look at 300 things i'd go out an hour later i'd go back
in look at another hundred things stuff like that yeah it was all day of my life for five years it
was that was my life
for those that are wondering
why Ian is the way he is
he used to be normal
and then he looked at these things
and he became more and more twisted
I did used to be normal
I did used to be normal
I used to watch
bangedup.com
you ever watch those old
like
faces of death
shows and stuff
like in 2001
when the internet
was finally on
and I could finally
watch a video
on America Online
yeah I think I On America Online?
Yeah, I think I had America Online at the time.
And that was hard to watch,
but I was like, if it happens,
I should be able to see it.
If it's going to happen in real life,
I should see it.
But that doesn't mean I need to see every blown open body.
It gets to the point where you need to protect the mind
and I don't know how we're going to handle
administrating these things.
Right, this is a big challenge
because there are evil people posting evil stuff
on all of these platforms.
And Elon, of course, came in
and that was a big thing he was trying to do
is get rid of this stuff
because Twitter certainly wasn't for whatever reason.
Let me pull up this story.
This is a crazy story.
This is from our good friends over at Jezebel.
You know Jezebel, your mom, your lover.
Twitch's AI porn controversy
is a creepy sign of things to come. You know, I completely agree with Jezebel you know i love twitch twitch's ai porn controversy is a creepy sign of things to come
you know i completely agree with jezebel for once popular streamer attrack sobbed through his
apology after viewers spotted that he was looking at ai generated porn of other streamers this is
the weirdest thing ever so the dude i guess like what's the story he was what he had porn pulled up
on his no he like so
pop culture crisis shout out to them talked about this the other day he like was doing a stream and
he was clicking through like the tabs and i guess i don't know if he opened accidentally or just
skipped over it but like they could see he was on porn hub and i don't know all the details of like
how they identified that it was what it is it wasn't porn hub for my knowledge it was a site
that does this that makes you can like upload someone's face in his apology he said i was on pornhub
and i got directed to an app right exactly and then it sent me to whatever something that's
how i figured out but like they noticed a tab in his browser that was like it was crying about it
yeah his wife sat in the background his wife was crying too he was on porn he was like i was on
pornhub a totally normal site and then i an ad popped up
an ad popped up for this ai deep fake porn so he clicked on it and then he went the extra step to
pay money to get an account for the thing to watch can i just give some advice to any uh you know
young streamers out there you have a work computer and you have a personal computer it's not hard to
understand but this guy apparently was like I run my business off this machine.
Let's pull up adult content
on the browser I use
for children.
Like, come on, bro.
And he's been a streamer
for like a long time, right?
I don't know anything about him.
Obviously he was live.
What am I saying?
Think.
Yeah.
But I just mean like,
you think he'd know to close his tab.
Yeah, seriously, bro.
Come on.
Just don't do that on your work computer.
Or maybe just don't do it at all,
in my opinion. True, true. As this this story was breaking what's this girl's name out of a morbid
curiosity he paid for a subscription i'm so curious please have my money and show me more
yeah i think he's in damage control at this point but hold on like
how i mean it is it is kind of it is creepy right do we super creepy it's creepy but then what what
do you do right if there's like some sort of initiative to censor this sort of content that's
worse i mean i don't know yeah someone someone someone tweeted this and i saw it's got 11,600
quote tweets this tweet has 36 million views this guy i uh ion romero says millionaire internet streamers reaction to ai
porn of herself you won't find more fragile people than popular internet personalities especially
women i don't i don't know if i agree um i think you're allowed to be freaked out that someone
took a picture of your face and put it on porn and is like watching it she says people keep sending
screenshots of it to her like all these people have seen it and it's got her face on it and then like i mean it happens to celebrities all the time doesn't it you know
their faces did this yeah remember when when fry was dating lucy lubot oh yeah yeah he had lucy
lou downloaded into a robot so he could date her yeah well i already used the example of pop culture
but uh japan has this big issue with importing sex dolls and they've agreed to release some but they won't release any that look like a public figure or like a child oh man what
the yeah because they're like that's disgusting okay so what's a public like is this the end of
days well i know like how do you define what a public figure exactly do you have to be in a
magazine to be in a movie also how are like all of the people so you can do it to regular people
or like 2 000 followers on it's like what point yeah what's the cutoff exactly it's terrifying and
like there have been a lot of people saying oh they shouldn't be upset about this but like
i think people will compare it to like oh it's like a sex tape getting leaked but like
this girl who's crying about it like didn't didn't do that like yeah i mean i understand
she's also not making money off of it and i'm sure that's not her point but i'll put that as part of her point yeah yeah
but she should get all the money from it she should it's her likeness like you can't take
a picture of ian and put it on like a commercial for your soda pop you got to pay in for that well
you can do it but you will pay me for it if you do no no look at this look at this this tweet from
sweet anita she said the story was how i found out that I'm on this website. I literally choose
to pass up millions
by not going into sex work
and some random
Cheeto-encrusted porn addict
solicits my body
without my consent instead.
Don't know whether
to cry, break stuff,
or laugh at this point.
I just don't think
this should be the price
for wanting to entertain people.
This made me realize something.
There's a lot of women
who try to do OnlyFans.
They could effectively
have like porn star surrogates. You know? Yeah. Don't have to actually do it themselves. And there's a lot of women who try to do only fans they could effectively have like like porn star
surrogates you know yeah like i have to actually do it themselves and there's no physical but here's
here's but here's the problem that's that's the thing i'm saying like there could be women who
are like get a different woman to do the work for you just put your face on it but here's the crazy
thing you can't do anything about it so we're we're talking about we're working on music and
we were talking with some industry guys, and
they were like, you guys should do a cover of a song.
People like covers, and then you do maybe just one cover of something as a song you
really like and want to do.
And I'm like, well, how do you do that?
I mean, we got to buy the rights?
They're like, no, you just do it.
No, covers are fine.
And I'm like, you don't need to buy the rights to cover a song?
They're like, no, the money just goes to the person who wrote the song.
I was like, oh, wow.
Now think about what that means for ai deep porn that means any woman anywhere can't stop someone from making it the
only thing they can do is accept the money this basically means like you cannot stop someone
from forcing a woman to be in in in ai porn yeah the only thing that happens is like well they used
your face so here's money so how do you deal with this that's the question i don't know that's crazy the girl in the video
and i i'm apologize i don't know her name qt cinderella i mean like i feel bad for her that
she says she's taking how do you how do you deal with this one of her frustrations now she's taking
she's spending her own money to fight it and like in court and stuff and i guess like you
issue a cease and desist like but the other part is good luck also it's already out there like even
if you get this one video of her taken down it doesn't end the surface and also like those
screenshots it's gonna continue to happen to other people too yeah dry sand effect too yeah yeah i
think it's gonna be more and more it's ai is gonna be able to write it on the spot you'll go i want
to watch person a have sex with animal l and then then they watch a donkey and the woman you love getting it on.
And then you're like, okay, stop.
I want to watch myself having sex with Phil in the blank.
And that's it.
And everyone in the world is fair game.
You could even be, I want to look at a blend of person A and B having sex with person Y.
And you'll see like these weird.
Dude, people are going to like put the Hulk's face on a woman.
I remember we were talking about that weird YouTube thing like put the Hulk's face on a woman.
I remember we were talking about that weird YouTube thing where they put Hitler's head on a woman's body to do Tai Chi and sing nursery rhymes to kids.
Man, the world is getting.
It's technology.
It feels like.
Thank you, AI. It feels like chaos is taking over.
It's just everything's becoming random nonsense and chaotic.
But then eventually it'll become normalized and then people, you know.
That's why I asked if we'll be around in 14 years if this country can still.
It's like we used to be able to defend Earth because of land borders.
They had artillery.
They rolled up to the border.
We could protect it with troops.
They couldn't get any closer in so they couldn't hit the target.
Now we have air power.
You can't protect the Earth when everyone has air power.
There's no way to defend.
The American process of defending Earth is not functional now
because you have orbital strikes and stuff.
Climate change is supposed to kill us by 2025.
So wait, these websites allow you to like,
you upload someone else's picture
and then it'll generate it for you?
Yeah.
I know they do those.
We did the thing with the music video Genocide.
If you haven't heard the song Genocide,
check it out because Ian's in it.
And we animated news personality faces to sing the song about,
it's basically criticizing the media for being liars.
So I know that that sounds kind of wholesome.
It's silly to make Don Lemon sing or whatever.
But people are actually going totally dark with it.
It's crazy.
I wanted to get an account and check it out earlier today,
but I stopped myself for better words. Not enough morb curiosity you know you know what i would actually rather do i would
rather just use it use like the ai technology to put tom cruise in just whatever movie so like i
want to see tom cruise as frodo baggins and then do a voice ai and a face ai and then it's literally
just tom cruise as frodo Baggins the whole time
tell me that would not be like the funnest thing ever it would be fun to have technology if everyone
had good intentions right but like you can't introduce that you have to assume everyone's
gonna do the worst thing which is like you know AI generated porn like I'm sorry but that's the
reality I mean people can already do that with like Adobe programs and everything. Put your face on video and et cetera.
So it's not specific to AI.
They're just making it easier with AI to do that.
Yeah, of course.
But I think that's like that's why you so many parents are deciding not to put their kids faces on the Internet.
Right.
That's why you saw this pushback against like family family vlog channels.
I think that like we had a nice honeymoon
here with technology and the internet we thought it was cool we thought it was a fun time but
actually it's extremely dangerous it is and there's no putting it back in the box so should
you just i'm just i'm just worried about what politicians are gonna propose to stop this from
happening oh i got an idea we should uh ai biden's face on a trump's body and then start showing it to people and be
like do you agree with what joe biden says here yep totally and it'll be joe biden like come on
man you know i'm the greatest president everybody agrees yeah it's a good idea we could honestly do
like a nancy pelosi or a fauci one you have it did voices down you know i i feel like uh
it's it's inevitable that everyone's going to be deepfaked onto porn of all styles.
Yeah.
So I've just kind of already accepted it.
Like, get ready for the whirlwind.
But the problem is when people don't know it's a deepfake when they see it.
Yeah.
And then they post it.
That's the problem.
And even law enforcement doesn't know it's a deepfake.
When it happens so often, people are going to just be like, oh, it's probably fake.
And then no one's going to believe any video ever.
No one's going to believe anything.
What is real?
The perception of what happened?
What if you're faking child porn and you go to the cops and they're like, nah, everything's
fake.
It's a matter, but it's a real case.
Like, what do we do then?
They would have the means to, you know, sort of investigate it.
But you just said that everyone's going to assume it's all fake.
Everyone as a general public.
But I feel like.
Yeah, forensics will dig through it.
Yeah.
They'll be like, here's the artifacts.
But if they're motivated enough to, right?
If we assume enough of it is fake, I'm just saying like it opens this terrible door where
people are going to be like, the reality is most of the stuff is not real but like what's real
that's the question is is it the perception of the act or is it the act itself because when you
watch porn a video you're not actually watching the porn you're watching a digital representation
of it so you're not watching porn for real you're watching a a fantasy um okay that's a semantic
argument but we think it's real because we feel
it because it happened because people filmed it we're asking the question of whether or not it
was filmed with real humans or was made by a computer and it never happened if it looks
identical like what's if there's no difference there is was a person in this act or not and
if we're talking about children was a children harmed and raped or is it an adult who consented
and got paid i mean those are questions you can't answer is it a video evidence of a crime or not that's that's you know very simple but until those if i don't think those
questions can be answered if it looks realistic enough there's no way to know well this would be
able to answer it like you said i hope i'm not i'm not saying hey authority's gonna fix it i don't
know i'm not entirely convinced because this is something we've been talking about for several
years okay and it's going to come to a point where what you do is you create an you you generate a fake video then you can you run it through a compressor or or uh
you convert it and now it it wipes out the artifacts yeah it's going to be it's going to
be hard to tell at a certain really good job interesting yeah yep it's creepy i was watching
um i was watching some youtube video i was like like some Blizzard thing or something. I remember what it was.
No, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, yeah, I can remember what it was.
And it was like, it was kind of really obvious it was CGI,
but just the lighting was so good.
I was like, weird.
It was like they got past the uncanny valley.
That's what it felt like.
It felt like you knew it was CGI, but it looked so good and real.
And it was like a person walking across a bridge or something.
And I was like, damn, this is creepy.
That's crazy stuff, man.
To go back to the crying girl for just a second, because it's on my mind.
The other thing I think she could do legally is go after Pornhub.
Because if they're accepting advertising money from the site, I don't really.
I'm not a lawyer.
I don't know.
No, I don't think she could.
No.
Okay.
But like.
You got to go to the company that did it, not the advertising.
Like, they can't, she can maybe do a cease and desist if they're showing her picture
on the site or something.
I feel like there is like, that's what's weirding me out.
Like, I'm not.
And then it's gonna start a new wave of lawsuits.
I know.
But like, that's the thing about legal fights.
Like, everyone involved has to have the money to go through it.
And even then, they're not always effective.
Like, there's really no justice for this.
And you're also buying his story about that's what happened.
Oh, yeah. For sure. For sure. But like, I feel i feel like and i don't know i'm not going to investigate it but like him being like these are advertisements i see there are
enough people who check out porn hub who could verify oh yeah they run those advertisements
which is like to me creepy i'm like i got a weird gross man yeah it's terrible i've got like a
crossroads in my mind because i'm like a pretty extreme techno libertarian.
Like I think if the technology can exist, it's going to exist and it will get used.
No amount of legalities are going to stop that technology from being real.
But then I'm like, well, wait a minute.
I'm thinking about protecting children.
And like how do you – you can't just let everyone see everything all the time.
Where we're going, like remember Lenza? That is big thing it's i guess people are still doing it the ai pictures
like the cartoon pictures and everything you take a bunch of pictures of yourself then it generates
like a perfect ai version of you or whatever that's the future we're going to live in the pods
and you're going to be in a digital world and you know the funny thing is like for all we know we're
already in it and we are the beautiful versions of ourselves dude i just pulled up this story from last year on yahoo would you
eat lab-grown human salami cultured from celebrity cells oh they're making meat from celebrity cells
or they're about to and then you can eat your favorite celebrity or what is the title of that
would you eat lab-grown human salami why would you want to do that yes what what is the motivation
because you want to live in the pot and be your best fantasy. But you think it brings you closer to them?
I think so.
All right, let's look at this story.
Would you eat human meat grown in a lab?
Would you eat human meat grown in a lab?
Well, this is like the animal rights movement, really,
because they don't want you to eat animal meat.
The answer is no.
I won't eat human.
What is wrong with you people?
Did you find the one about lab-grown salami
cultured from celebrities? Lab-grown salami? I've seen that human. What is wrong with you people? Did you find the one about lab-grown salami cultured from celebrities?
Lab-grown salami?
I've seen that
human meat article before.
It's like an animal rights thing.
Would you eat
lab-grown human salami
cultured from celebrity cells?
No.
Why salami?
James Franco's salami?
They're hoping to get
James Franco and Ellen DeGeneres,
Jennifer Lawrence,
and Kanye West on board
to donate tissue samples
that will become salami.
I don't think Kanye would be down.
Knowing Yano, I don't think he'd be down with that.
You'd make a lot.
Could you imagine the amount of money that someone could make from it?
Probably so much.
It's only legal in Idaho, though.
Idaho is the only state that allows that.
This is like some of the most disgusting stuff I've ever seen.
Yo, we need to go back.
There was also an article that I...
Go back.
We've gone too far.
Too far.
Too far.
There was also an article I read.
They said, would you eat human meat to save the planet?
No, what a wonderful vague question.
Here's what I'm saying.
How about, I think I have this video somewhere.
Here we go.
Check out this video.
This is, I saw this history defined high school fitness program in 1962.
The physical education director at La Sierra High School has developed a program that assures every student of physical. Look at this.
This was normal back then for all of the kids.
Somebody film La Sierra now.
You can't even play dodgeball in gym class anymore.
Is this all boys school or are they separate by gender?
I'm pretty sure they all did.
So I'm kind of saying, here's what I'm saying.
Can we like go back to when we, you know, exercise and ate right,
but,
you know,
keep the getting rid
of racism part
and then just have like
the not racism,
but still be exercising
and eating right
and not having
human grown meat.
This is toxic masculinity now.
This is just a bunch
of teenagers exercising
as they should be.
But nowadays,
it's just like
the kids sit around
doing nothing.
Well, if you make them exercise and they can't do it then you make them feel bad and that's bad because that's bullying oh man it's like it's like social darwinism or whatever
strong must survive let the let the people who want to be doughy be doughy and people who want
to be fit be fit do you want to cater to like the lowest denominator or should we all like try to
encourage everyone to reach their highest potential right that's why we're gonna lower the standards oh good that's
part of like the assisted suicide conversation like i'm very much just cater to the best of the
best and let everyone else fall away if they can't keep up then they're not supposed to
evolutionarily see with this gym class example i feel like it's way worse to be like you couldn't
do a push-up so you just don't have to do that like we know you're not capable that's a terrible thing to communicate to a
teenager right being like hey you can't do push-up but by the end of the semester maybe you'll be
able to do five and that's awesome that's an improvement like that's way better shaming or
something exactly yeah i guess there's if we are going into the techno verse that your emotions
are going to be a key part in your ability to navigate. So angry people could make bad things and you want to like make sure people are happy and healthy.
But the problem is, man, giving someone everything they want when they're little is not what makes people happy.
You need people need a verse adversity.
They need competition.
Of course, they need to lose and they need to learn how to enjoy it.
That's how you the future is going to be.
Humans are going to be
short and gangly
and gaunt,
super thin,
wearing jumpsuits
and they're going to live in pods.
But in the pods,
they're going to be
six feet tall,
super ripped,
flying around,
you know,
with spaceships
and all that stuff.
This is the worst
bedtime story ever.
So I think the future
is androgyny
because we see all of this gender transitioning happening.
And I think that the ideal will eventually be,
you know, an androgynous model.
I was thinking that.
We're going to be just raising, gestating in like pods,
the kids, and then adults won't have sex organs.
We'll be super tall because we'll be in low gravity,
have really long arms and legs.
Have you guys watched SG-1?
This is basically what happens to one of the aliens.
Like the, what are they, the Nordics?
What do they call them?
I forgot what they call them in the show.
But they're like greys, and they can't reproduce anymore.
They can only clone themselves.
And they're degrading, so they can't do it much longer,
and they eventually just get wiped out because of it.
What were you about to?
Oh, I was just going to say, in the early 2000s,
I remember reading some fashion magazine do a cover on, like,
the top model in the industry.
Asgard, sorry, guys.
Asgard.
The highest, like, most in demand,
and it was a man who was known for his androgynous look,
and he's very thin, and, like, Tim Singh, like, long arms,
stuff like that.
Yeah, the fashion industry to this day is doing the same thing.
And this was like,
I think I read this article in 2010.
Right.
So at that time they already were like,
this is the ideal for both men and women because they were saying this,
like he's able to rock walk runway for men's lines,
but also for women's lines.
Right.
But he's not shaped like we would think a traditional toxically masculine
male ideally is.
And he's not shaped like a woman. How do we get to that ideal of androgyny by flipping shit so and making the body unhealthy
right right so the fashion industry they're making men wear dresses and then they're making women you
know wear more masculine clothing so that is the first step to reaching that ideal of androgyny so
i think that definitely and they're 10 years ahead Like if we're just talking about it now,
they've already known it for a while.
I was thinking like how all wars are fought for sex.
I don't know.
Some people have told me that over time,
like all,
all wars are fought over women or something,
something like that.
Hell in a Troy.
That's like the one thing.
I'm pretty sure the biggest wars in the world were fought over a black
peppercorn.
Ooh,
wasn't it salt?
Well,
I guess all that stuff,
food, food for sure.
But the aggression over women,
over either a guy's not getting laid,
so he gets angry, or a guy wants the woman,
so he goes, like, maybe the sexuality
is what has caused us to be so psychotic as a species,
is our obsession with finding a mate
and taking other people's mates.
I disagree.
It doesn't explain the East India Trade Company
and the spice wars. Food is a big part of it, too. But bro, bro, bro, it was literally, mates and i disagree it doesn't explain the east india trading company uh trade trade company and
the the spice food is a big part of it too just but bro bro it was literally pepper black pepper
they were like i will kill thousands to make my eggs taste better it was it's also the profit
off the black pepper the amount of money they could make so that's my point about female leaders
that go to war like buddhica i? I mean, Margaret Thatcher, for example.
Not true.
Yeah, not all war is for sex.
Obviously, that's ridiculous.
It's for pepper.
A lot of male aggression is because of it.
I think in nature, male aggression is often because of female stuff.
When you think about the, I don't remember what they are, but the rams that get interlocked
because they're trying to beat each other to like cities women.
How do you define male aggression?
Just displays of aggression, right? So if you're talking about these rams they fight each other a man i mean i think aggression is a naturally masculine tendency that's what i'm
saying but like the uh there are times when it becomes fatal right if you're lambs who lock
together and die because you were trying to seduce it or show the girl that like you were the better
or stronger of the two like it can be at times not the best you need a certain amount of aggression you don't need
to dominate but like i think you're right we link in nature sex and aggression are often linked but
i don't think it's necessarily the only cause of war i wonder if it's being bred out of humanity
if people are attempting to lower the aggression and the sexuality to an androgynous state it's crossed my mind like five ten years ago and i wonder if it's a technocratic state
of mind thing like we need these people not testosterone filled because they're too much
too much fistfights too much lying so that's physical aggression but then on the female side
there's emotional aggression right because i mean they're influenced by estrogen and everything so yeah and aggression for women they're emotional yeah i i feel like it's worse i would do but it's
well they have that thing where they say like men like women like men if there's a problem like
eventually they can just hit each other right yeah but with women like and then they'll get over it
yeah yeah but the hitting each other never solves it. I don't think so.
But they assert dominance,
and that's sort of the natural order
of the difference between men and women.
I mean, it does solve it, though, right?
The beef is over.
It solves it in the physical sense.
Like, the guy's not going to get knocked down.
So you think that the dudes are emotionally upset
with each other after they win a fight or something?
Probably.
I mean, if you're not working it out emotionally
or consciously,
I don't think it's getting worked out.
What kind of fight do you mean?
Like a guy and two guys want a woman.
They get into a fist fight.
The guy breaks the other guy's legs, breaks his neck.
And now he's like, he didn't.
Okay, dude.
We're a tribal now, so we have no choice because otherwise we'll come back later.
Yeah.
It's kind of crazy to think about it.
I was in Norway and this Norwegian guy, and it's kind of crazy to think about i was in norway
and the norwegian is norwegian guy and it's funny because they're all kind of woke he was like you
want to hear a joke and i was like and he's like how come britain has no beautiful women and i was
like why we took them all and then uh i was like oh yeah that's right because the vikings went and
raided and took all the women and i'm like i don't know if it's a joke or like it's not but the crazy
thing is like i'm imagine like you're a woman in a village in like the british isles or
whatever in great britain or something or wales or scotland and then all of a sudden a bunch of
burly dudes in a boat just walk up destroy your village and take you and bring you back to their
village and it's like this is your life now yeah true like that's just it like okay i guess yeah
god i you know the horrible i talk about this horrible, horrible stuff,
but it's only because I want people
to think about what it could be.
You can't just call the cops.
Like, if we really screw this up, you know,
this American thing.
Watch, I'm watching 1883,
because, you know, you guys were telling me to watch it.
Yeah, yeah.
It's just like everybody dying all the time.
Yeah, it's a bit ridiculous.
It's just like they're walking,
and then all of a sudden, like,
there's a scene where
they're talking about this
and a girl goes to take a leak
or something
and a snake bites her ass
and then she's dead.
Her corpse is laying on the ground
and they're like,
well, snake bit her ass.
Look, I think that,
what was that video game
that was popular?
Oregon Trail?
I don't think it prepared us
for what the West was really like.
That's why I liked watching
H&E 3.
It's not realist.
There's no way they did like
where the marshal walks
into the room
he's like who did it bang bang bang just kills everybody i can't say the depictions of law
enforcement and how that works but like the risk to the travelers like while they're going like
the snakes and the wagon and the whatever else like that is real it seems kind of crazy today
because there are there are very like rudimentary things we've learned in grade school that can really make a difference that they didn't know.
And if you think about it, to put it simply, there were people at a time who didn't know what a wheel was.
And we all know what a wheel is because we've just seen it.
We've never had a workshop class on how to make a wheel.
We'd probably struggle to figure out how to make a perfect
wheel out of wood or something, but eventually we'd figure
out something. How to make something
roll. But there was a period where people
didn't even have wheels. Nobody figured it out. Nobody knew.
Nobody saw it. Now it's like, if
we really needed to, you could probably make a wheel
with something. You could just do it because you
know the concept of it. So when it comes
to the Oregon Trail, there's a bunch
of stuff you may have just seen passively watching the discovery channel and you're like oh yeah you
know like how to get water at night it's like you dig a little hole and you put like a leaf in it
or something and you get like a cup or whatever condensation forms and it drips into the cup
there's just like stuff that you learn from watching movies that these people never had
access to think about this well germ theory right sorry oh right yeah like washing wounds they used
to be like why wash your hands yeah or like you have to boil your water before you drink
it right they didn't know that because they didn't have the concept but in 1883 they're boiling the
water because of cholera but they have to tell them to right but so so think about this when you
watch a movie you get a bunch of bs information and people think the wrong things from watching
it though that people think that like silencers make guns go they really don't and uh they really don't know what these things sound like but um there's
there is a there is so much information we absorb every single day that we take for granted
if you go back to 1883 you probably absorbed no information for for days like literally the
information you absorb is like an animal was there okay well
that's not like longevity information right i'm talking like today you know i'll read an article
and it'll be like a new fusion reactor it combines these things with these things and i'm like i
don't know i just learned something i guess and i don't i don't want to practically apply like a
fusion reactor or something but you go back to the 1800s and you're walking the whole day and
you learn nothing new.
The only thing new you learn is like there's a tree at this point on the map.
I think, you know, we've also seen this transition from, you know, TV culture to Internet culture, right?
We have all of the world's knowledge at our fingertips 24-7.
You know, 30 years ago, we wouldn't be able to google like some stupid you know piece of
information that we were looking for but now we can it's crazy that was actually uh there was a
comic i think it was xkcd i'm not sure where someone it's like 1990 and someone said hey
what year was lincoln shot the other person's like i don't know you want to go to the library
and find out nah and then it's like now hey what year was lincoln shot then he's looking at his
phone he's like 1864 i don't know was it 1864 what year was Lincoln shot? And he's looking at his phone. He's like, 1864. I don't know. Was it 1864? What year was it that he was shot?
1865 was like when the war ended.
Yeah, right.
65.
It was like a month after the war ended.
Yeah, 65.
That makes sense, right?
Can't go anywhere without your history.
What year was it?
April 14th, 1865.
55.
You were right.
I was close.
I was close.
Yeah, to this point, you know, when I had that Twitter space with the Taliban, I was
telling you about before. I co-hosted it with Nuance Pro.
And we were discussing the detainment of Andrew Tate.
And I got MAGA people together with these Taliban guys living in Afghanistan.
They actually had a very fruitful conversation about, you know, where the world was headed.
Can you imagine if we could do this back in 2001?
Maybe the war would not have happened.
Yeah, that's why I'm wondering why do we have this
global conflict? Like, where is Putin on a video
chat with Joe Biden?
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defiant blackout says yo tim when you started off with that raid comment youtube glitched
and i replayed it that whole part is gone about the orange man let me just make sure i can
reiterate this and i'm going to give
advanced warning
for our censors
so you can,
okay,
I'm about to say it again.
All right.
When Donald Trump
has the FBI go to his house
to look for documents,
it's a raid.
When they go to
Joe Biden's house,
house,
office,
it's a planned search.
It's funny how the media
does that, right?
All right.
Did you guys,
did the censors,
did you get it?
Oh, no,
that one went through? Well, you tried. You tried. All right. Did you guys, did the censors, did you get it? Oh, no, that one went through?
Well, you tried.
You tried.
All right.
Brycey says, Tim, your stream cut out for a few seconds in the beginning when you were
talking about the Biden raid.
Did it now?
Richard Winter says, I'm pretty sure YouTube just censored you saying Donald Trump in your
opening.
Did they now?
Look at all these people saying this, huh?
Just a coincidence.
Don't question it.
Rusta says, just some feedback on an earlier vid from today.
The 4U algorithm existed before Elon bought the site,
but Elon just made it easier to switch from 4U and actually following on the app.
Anyway, love you all.
Yes, there were little stars in the top right,
and you had the home feed and the latest feed.
And every so often, it would automatically switch you back to home, which was algorithmic.
Yeah, I think it's awful.
All right.
Darius Arkin says, shortly after having a discussion with my district manager where I was told that my conservative politics are unacceptable, my transfer request was denied and I was terminated from my position.
Yikes.
Well, if that was Washington, D.C., you'd have a case for a human rights violation where politics is a protected class.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah.
Doesn't apply anywhere else, though, for the most part.
All right.
Let's see.
Matthew Reckamp says, the problem with your poll is that it doesn't have a third option for both.
That was the poll on the question of, are they trying to remove Biden or cover up the raid or cover up Biden's malfeasance?
Yep.
David Toronto says, Trump was president. He can declassify documents joe couldn't either way i'll take president
desantis well there you go that's one simple answer i guess what do you guys think it's gonna
be desantis i hope so trump yeah you like trump i prefer trump it's tough man i want to see desantis
is pretty much like the same gop establishment type of guy that's using wokeism to basically capture the MAGA base.
Right.
I think, so like he's doing what they want to try and earn their favor?
Yeah.
I mean, that's kind of what he should be doing.
Yeah, but I just don't think DeSantis is the same as Trump.
Yeah, I understand that.
And that's one criticism I have of Trump.
But then he ended up firing Bolton, you know.
He brought in a bunch of people. He had a bunch of people surrounding him. that and that's one criticism i have of trump but then he ended up firing bolton you know he brought
in he brought in a bunch of people he had a bunch of people surrounding him as luke likes to point
out he tried to get bill gates to be an advisor right so it's it's it's tough like trump was not
perfect i don't know man yeah he wasn't and that's actually why i i trust him more he's not a
politician he's not a traditional politician whereas desantis you know he's born and bred
politician really too polished maybe yeah all right christina h says caitlin bennett said she'd DeSantis, you know, he's born and bred politician, really. Too polished, maybe. Yeah. Alright. Christina H
says, Caitlin Bennett said she'd love to come on
the show. I hope you guys get in contact soon.
I will
figure that one out. Let me write that down.
Let me write down Caitlin Bennett.
That'd be cool. I haven't seen her in a
while. Has she
been on before? I think they were saying she took a break
because she's a mom. Oh. She took time
to... I went to Kent State. That's where Caitlinaitlin went kent state same college she used to interview people
and she'd have like the gun and then she's got really curly hair too right yeah and three four
five says they are going to have hakeem jeffries run really though it's kind of soon what but that
would boost his profile like nikki haley is run, and she doesn't actually expect to win. Running for president makes you, it boosts your profile.
You sell books.
You get famous.
You get paid over work.
Yeah.
And that's the only reason they do it.
They do it so that they can get a book contract and make a bunch of money.
Right.
Say they ran.
All right.
Really Rick says, hey Samira, it's gays for Trump.
When can we expect the next Taliban Twitter space?
Very soon, hopefully.
Pick a topic and then, you know, maybe you can join.
You guys should join.
That's super interesting.
Yeah.
So how many people from the Taliban come on normally?
I mean, that was a very specific Twitter space.
But then, you know, they'll show up in our spaces sometimes, you know.
Nuance Bros said they were asking for dating advice or something.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh. We don't know what you're talking about no they have good advice and you know
we've asked them about pop culture references and everything so yeah i mean i'm hoping to you
know get these groups together you know it would be good conversation all right wyatt caldenberg
says tim i have been involved in politics since the 60s one thing i learned never trust people
who spread gossip and create drama within the movement.
They always turn out to be paid rats, crackpot, or people with dark secrets.
True.
Well, the one thing I will say is we talked about reputation management firms a while back.
These are companies that their whole thing is how to create personas, how to manufacture identities, and how to do the inverse how to destroy and
character assassinate and so the one thing i'll warn you about is like with with julian assange
this is the this is where the future of of assassination is back in the day let's just
let's just leave all the conspiracy theories aside several prominent people were killed in you know
big news stories what happens when a prominent individual has their life taken?
Well, their work stops, but their ideas become immortal.
They become martyrs.
What we see now is Julian Assange gets accused of some impropriety or nonsense that turns
out to be totally fake.
They use that as pretext to shut down his work or at least impede it to the best of
their abilities and try and destroy his legacy so that his ideas die forever.
The man gets to live locked in the Ecuadorian embassy
for 10 years,
but they made sure that all across the internet,
people were spamming comments
about how Julian Assange was doing this,
that, or otherwise to women.
The media narratives came out,
started doing all the same thing,
and it was all a lie.
And then what it turns out,
they dropped the case against Julian Assange,
and then Donald Trump moved to have him indicted and extradited to the United States on espionage charges when he's not even an American citizen.
You got to watch out for this intel stuff, man.
It's weird stuff.
It's weird, creepy stuff.
But you can usually tell when it's inorganic.
The story about Julian Assange, if you actually looked into you knew like oh okay
this is not real but for some reason the new york times or whoever else all these big news outlets
were writing overtly fake things the same thing i can say for donald trump like all these people
spamming on twitter screaming about how trump said nazis were very fine people and it's like yo he
never did that yeah so who are these people doing this well you know i think it is i think it's a
mix of prominent high profile accounts that – the intelligence agencies or the contractors will reach out to them and say, hey, this is the go.
Here's your rate.
Like, here's your pay.
Do this story.
Or they will spam prominent personalities on the left and say, like, hey, look.
Like, all of a sudden, 50 comments will appear on someone's page being like, Donald Trump said this.
Donald Trump said this.
Troll farms.
And then these prominent personalities will start talking about it and regurgitating these ideas and then saying Donald Trump's a Nazi.
And then it creates that moment.
The reputation management firms should really look into it.
That's what Wikipedia is run by, basically.
A handful of different agencies and individuals who do what's called reputation management. And then what's really dirty is when campaigns target an individual for some reason that you can't really understand.
And then the person goes to them and says, hey, we can fix this for you.
Maybe you just pay us and we'll make it all go away.
We'll handle your Wikipedia page and get those articles removed.
Crazy stuff, right?
All right.
Let's see what we got.
Cabaro says the D's can run a decrepit, senile, alleged pedo and make him get 81 million
ballots.
It doesn't matter who the establishment decides to run.
That's what I'm saying.
Look, people are going to get a universal mail-in ballot, and then someone's going to
knock on their door and say, vote for Biden.
They're going to go, oh, whatever, I guess.
They're not going to know anything about him.
Joe Biden could walk on Fifth Avenue.
And the point of that statement is it's what trump said trump said he'd go out in fifth avenue
and he wouldn't lose a single vote he was right i mean it's not a good thing you know obviously but
he's not he's not wrong in the zealotry of a lot of these voters it's not exclusive to trump i think
that's the important thing yeah all right what do we got grofty says the ufo might spin at some
point buck well you know here you go. The UFO might spin.
There it is.
A little air duster to spin it.
Spinning the UFO is.
That's it.
All right.
That's dangerous.
Wobbling the UFO might.
Yeah, you have to make sure it's perfectly flat.
Otherwise, the air is pushing it down.
I think hypothetically, if something spins horizontally fast enough, it creates antigravity.
It diminishes its vertical momentum to zero.
How does that make sense?
I'll talk.
I'll bring on Jeremy Riss, the alien scientist, to explain it at some point in the future.
So the challenge with this UFO is that it's not symmetrical in every direction.
So when the blower is on on it it's pushing it slightly downward
and so it's going down but then bouncing up so it starts wobbling so what you have to do is you
have to get it perfectly flat and aligned i've got this thing to go really really fast where the whole
thing starts shaking like crazy because i can't handle the energy but i kind of feel like there's
got to be a way to make it spin perfectly you know like what's the maximum rpm for this ufo oh my gosh
because there's a vacuum there i don't know if there would be a maximum i mean it eventually
would break apart right it would throw itself apart i watched this really funny video um a
skateboard wheel and they put uh they put like a power tool on it so that it would spin and it's
it spins so fast just this is urethane it's hard it's like
it's it melts basically it just like wobbles out like laffy taffy you also watch the hydraulic
press youtube channel where he just smashes different things i love that channel therapeutic
all right what do we got here brian uh bryant laws says question what if this is the setup for
civil war ii think about it lincoln wasn't a perfect choice for potus so would newsom be in the same boat
i don't know is is joe biden our buchanan maybe lincoln came out as a fourth part there are four
parties running for president that year and he was kind of a nobody uh wasn't a politician and
it was just a radical time in history.
So it is possible that we're about to embark on, like we were just talking earlier, we need, at least I was saying, I think more political parties.
The difference is now we have bot farms, troll farms run by these parties and intelligence agencies.
Yep.
They've been doing it for a while.
Yeah. I actually talked to I'll just say a political party guy and this was probably
seven or eight years ago
who was talking about
basically this
you know
they're not so overt
where they don't come out
and say we want to make trolls
to target individuals
or anything like that
they're just like
we want to maximize
user outreach
they want to construct narratives
yeah and what was the
ShareBlue
was that the company
that hired people to go on Reddit
and post comments or something?
I don't know.
If you ever wonder why it is that you're online and you're getting inundated with a bunch of comments that come out of nowhere,
you've got to watch out for these companies like ShareBlue or whatever.
Is that what it's called?
This is from Daily Beast.
The Hillary Clinton PAC spent a million dollars to, quote, correct commenters on Reddit and Facebook.
Exactly.
ShareBlue. Yep. That's right the the the internet is fake dead internet theory companies uh reddit is the most one of the so reddit was was the uh what made videos go viral yeah people would find
a video find it funny put it on reddit and then it would go viral because the engine works that
way if you liked it you give it an upvote if you didn't it went down viral because the engine works that way. If you liked it, you give it an upvote. If you didn't, it went down. So if the video had that
X factor, more people are
upvoting it than downvoting it, it starts skyrocketing.
Then people figured out how to game the algorithm.
It wasn't just getting upvotes,
it was downvoting everything else.
So they started automating it. They started using troll
farms. You see those videos where people have
like a hundred cell phones on the wall and they're
walking over and they're posting messages?
That's how they do it. And so they would up reddit and they'll go down vote down vote down
down vote everything in competition with it on each of their accounts from different phones
and then all of a sudden not only is this video getting 100 up votes everything else got down
votes and boom your video made the front page right crazy right and this was like news like
10 years ago people were talking about this when it first technology has advanced so much can you imagine right seriously seriously ritual studio says universe
25 is becoming a reality what's what's that i don't know no idea no idea paul lamb says i'm 24
looking at all this woke crap and all i can think about is preparing to move to the middle of the
woods and building a home for my future family i'm'm telling you, man, if you got out of the city and you got chickens and got a little house,
you're probably sitting pretty in your rocking chair on the porch looking at your glorious chicken wealth.
Just purchased a solar power battery.
I purchased a 1,000-watt generator.
Solar generator?
Solar generator and then two big solar panels.
200-watt solar panels.
Well, we have a whole bunch of these big batteries with solar panels.
Yeah, I got kind of one of those.
You lay out the panels.
And it was really cool.
When we first bought them, this was a couple years ago,
we laid out like 12 panels and we watched the thing charge up.
And the battery was like charged to full in three hours.
And that's actually pretty crazy.
That's a lot of electricity being generated.
And so we actually, I mean, we had a lot of panels. It it was a huge space being covered but you could run an air conditioner off that these
these little batteries on the ground we actually did one day the power went out here and it was
super hot in the studio and we ran the air conditioner ran i think for like 45 minutes
off of one fully charged battery so you know that's pretty good get one it was a thousand
dollars if the apocalypse happens i'm not gonna happens, I'm not going to waste my electricity on air conditioning unless I absolutely have to for some reason.
Also, your phone is a battery.
Keep that in mind.
Like my solar panels, they have USB-C ports on them so you can just plug your phone right into the panel.
And it is a battery that you can use.
You said move out of the country, but where would you move to?
I don't know.
I'm thinking about it.
If it gets really bad then
i might consider it um i really liked russia when i went there el salvador okay yeah bitcoin yeah
crimes dropping the standard of living is increasing so i sounded pretty good max kaiser
and stacy herbert are like superstars there right now that's right so if i had to choose any other
country i'd just choose that i'd hit up Max and Stacey and be like,
what's going on? Bitcoin, yo. I'm your new neighbor.
Yeah, Bitcoin. What about
you? I don't know.
I have a...
Serge and I, I think both have a couple different
citizenships, and so I grew up
with this idea that if one of the
countries was really bad, I could jump to the next
one. What are they both? Well, I'm
British Canadian and American, so it's not looking good on all fronts. I'm not totally sure where I'll was really bad i could jump to the next one are they both woke well i'm uh british canadian and
american so it's not looking good on all fronts i'm not totally sure where i'll go after this
but uh i that idea that like you could leave or like that this country wasn't forever is like
definitely something i grew up with you know because that's why my parents left the countries
they were in yeah all right radioactive rat says tim for the reverse shark tank i work for a tiny
animal shelter in northern california one of the reverse shark tank i work for a tiny animal
shelter in northern california one of the poorest counties in the state as a rep of the shelter
could i request specific donations we desperately need uh right now i don't i mean i don't know what
to say the idea i had was people are ragging on mr beast they were calling it demonic yeah what he
did and i'm like it's insane we can do milf Manor or we can do Mr. Beast Cures Blindness
I'll take Mr. Beast
any day of the week
so I said on the segment
we should do a reverse
Shark Tank
reverse
altruistic Shark Tank
what's the show?
Dragon's Den and Shark Tank
Dragon's Den is the British version of it
reverse Shark Tank where it's a bunch of philanthropists and people go in to express why they need charitable
donations i think we'd want to refrain from people who are like my dad's dying of kidney failure
needs because that's like really horrible to make someone come and beg to save someone's life
but we want to keep it as a possibility i think it's more so like it's foundations and billionaires
and non-profits come in and talk about the work they're doing so it's basically like i run a
charity that saves animals last year we saved three thousand dogs by providing them emergency
kidney dialysis and they went on to live for five years with your contribution of x amount of
dollars and then the whales because they're not sharks because whales are nice will determine how
much they want to give and if they do. And it'll be very similar.
It'll be like, what are your expenses every year?
How much of the money that I donate goes to the actual cause of helping these animals versus paying your administrative costs?
And then they'll say it's 20%, which is really, really, really, really great.
80% of the money goes towards, and I think that's the way to do it.
Yeah, because that would be that that show would function as the money source
for people like Mr. Beast that don't have money.
Someone would come and be like,
I have a plan to cure a thousand people's blindness
with this technology, this is the surgeries,
and then the charity can fund the process.
And you can do it thematically.
Like one episode is all animal related, right?
And then you can contrast
how different services are helping this cause.
It's basically just the same show, but with nonprofits.
I mean, Shark Tank could even do that
and have an episode where it's charities
that come in and say,
we run a charity that does these things.
We are looking for $500,000 to open a new building
that will provide children with meals
and a warm bed, blah, blah, blah.
It's impact investment.
It is the dawn of the impact investment age.
I think it's a great idea.
Yeah.
Great idea.
And then i was saying
you know we should uh have a marketing movement where companies use their marketing budgets to
compete for doing the best thing so i will pledge this depending on how much revenue we generate
this year we will not be buying times square billboards instead we will use our marketing
budget to i don't know make a video where we cure blindness. Just rip off Mr. Beast because if everyone started doing that, we'd have no blind people.
Or with cataracts, at least.
But we can do something like that.
We could use our marketing budget to do something really cool.
Impactful, yeah.
Yeah.
Helping injured athletes, you know, PRP, platelet-rich plasma, things like that.
All kinds of things.
I mean, that's expensive.
There's probably people more in need we could help
and problems we could solve
well and there are probably
people you've had on the show
who would partner with you
to do stuff right
better idea
we buy
five
five hundred thousand
lottery tickets
uh oh
yeah and give them out
and somebody's bound
to win the lottery
you know
and then use that money
towards whatever
no no they can do
whatever they want
you know it's like
we just give out lottery tickets that's our that's our that's our philanthropy we're a
non-profit that gives homeless people lottery tickets fingers crossed no but you know i i i
think we'll do that i think instead of buying billboards we will produce a video akin to a
mr beast charitable giving because someone said put your money where your mouth is tim if mr beast
is doing it you're saying people should you should and i'm like okay yeah right let's figure it out we'll
figure out what to do yeah the thing about the blindness thing as well ian is that it's really
cheap and the surgery takes like 10 minutes oh wow it's very it's not really that expensive and
it's like you know obviously it's expensive a couple grand but some people don't have a couple
grand and it takes like 10 minutes so that's why they chose that to be like the thing they would
do for a lot of people you know man let's kick it into overdrive if it's that
easy to do and people just need a little kickstart yeah yes all right cobe johnson says tim long time
fan since the old studio days you should get peter zahan on one evening get great insight into
geopolitics and the end of globalization ian could have a field day talking about graphene
look him up maybe Maybe we should...
He was on Rogan a couple weeks ago.
Three weeks ago.
Oh, cool, cool, cool.
On Rogan.
That's so funny.
He was right on top of him.
They were running down the street.
Just making a move.
Amenthi says,
Bill in Last of Us was gay in the game,
but it wasn't a focus,
and his relationship with Frank was strained.
Bill also doesn't die in the game.
I like Offerman in the role,
but I hate these changes.
Yeah, I think in the game,
what happened, like, Frank got bit, and then then bell to kill him or something no idea something like that all right merle gray says the reason why all the scenes y'all described
with the dad and the notebook get the emotion of love how how to use because it involves a
sacrifice just like when jesus christ died on the cross mean, that's kind of what I was saying. Like, I don't, you know, seeing like two grown adult men,
I don't feel anything over that loss
because I view them both as self-sufficient, capable men.
And it's like...
It also seems cheesy and corny.
Forced.
Yeah, forced.
Well, and I think there's nothing noble in this yes there's
nothing noble there's nothing that we're like man if i were in that circumstance like i hope that i
have the character to like like he's letting someone who's apparently dying die and then
he's also killing himself so he doesn't have to deal with the post-apocalyptic right and the
political motive behind it yeah it's overtly woke yeah and there's that turn people off probably there's there's
no actual love building in it like there's nothing i see that actually shows a relationship of love i
just maybe it's because they're both men or maybe it's because they just didn't write it well enough
that's the problem with a lot of modern art is they tell you that they're in love and then you're
supposed to have feelings but they don't actually play it out over the course of the process like
i'll put it this way episode two test, Tess sacrifices herself to save them,
and there's this really disgusting scene
where the zombie, the fungus is coming out of its mouth,
and then he kisses her,
and it's going down her throat or whatever.
But I think her name's Anna Tor of the Actress.
Her emotion and her acting in the,
I'm gonna sacrifice myself for you,
and she's knocking over fuel cans or whatever,
it's like, you can feel it. And then it's really sad when it blows up and then joel is like the one thing he had in this destroyed world is now dead but like this this this episode with
these two guys there's like literally nothing there there it shows them arguing with each other
were they both healthy like nothing not in the end in the end one guy was sick and dying and
he's like in a wheelchair or something okay how was bella ramsey in that show she's cool yeah she's good i think the show
is really good look i think that episode was really really good i just i don't connect with
that emotionally i just can't understand it i'm not trying to be a dick it's just like
if it was a woman and a man there would be a dynamic there i would relate to or understand
and maybe that's just me. But I will say this.
That movie Bros, where it's like a gay rom-com, flopped.
Billy Eichner movie.
If you're going to do a gay romance thing, The Last of Us Episode 3 is how you would do it.
Like, the guy, the prepper guy, isn't actually gay.
He's been alone for three years.
Humanity's been wiped out.
And then when this guy shows up, I guess, who is gay, he's like, i've only ever been with a girl or whatever and so it's like it's a weird dynamic
i guess it's interesting but it's like the bros movie was just weird lewd yeah kind of over the
top gross i think people are just seeing it too much it's overexposed right because i think there
was that disney movie with the gay character or something that was supposed to be you know you know like a big hit but then it completely flopped everywhere and then
didn't do well at the box office so i think people are just fed up of the uh you know overt political
messages in in culture and in hollywood i think i think the issue is it's just relatable to a very
very very small portion of the population yes if if it was
his brother in this and it's like you know one day he he sees his trap is sprung he looks out
and he sees his brothers there and he's like oh my god john where have you been and then right it's
like he's smiling and he's like i've been alone for three years and you made it back i thought
you died and then in the end his brother's dying, I would relate to that and be like, oh, man, that's so sad.
You know, it sounds like like a gay fantasy.
If they wrote it like gay guy meets straight guy.
But straight guy falls in love with gay guy.
Now he's gay too.
Now he's gay too.
That's what I think too.
Yeah.
Anyway, anyway, let's read some more.
All right.
Curtis says when Putin said something to the effect of America is full of Satanists.
I couldn't disagree knowing that porn couldn't disagree knowing that porn is one of America's top exports.
A lot of people feel that way.
Yikes.
All right.
We'll grab some more super chats.
Rod Undefined Rod says, Tim, the gun channels have been destroyed by YouTube this past week.
They even struck Ian McCollum for a suppressor video, misspelled deliberate.
We are planning on having
some people on talk about this.
Yeah, we'll see.
I don't want to say too much
because we're in the process
of booking everything
and I don't know when it's going to happen,
but they're tweeting about it.
I just went to YouTube.
Tim Pool calls out Hassan Abiy.
What is this?
Calls out?
I don't know.
Tim Pool calls out Hassan Abiy.
It's Hassan hassan's on
hassan's channel what i didn't agree with hassan come on man wait wait hold on hassan wrote that
yeah i think it's on his show calls out i literally agree with him like four or five times
i think he's right yeah but if you say agree with you're not gonna have as many clicks come on
it says as i call him out it's in pool calls out hassan abi yeah shout out maybe yeah i was like
hassan complaining about how it's how YouTube guy's got to make this video.
He's right.
Controversy gets clicked.
That's a good point.
If Hassan was like, if the title was Tim Pool's Pretty Cool, it wouldn't get like half the
No, no, no.
I disagree.
I think at this point, if Hassan wrote Tim Pool actually agrees with Hassan over Mr.
Beast, people would click it to be like, yo, what's this about?
And the word agree is really big?
Yep.
It was the craziest thing when Hassan's like,
this fills me with rage,
that it's up to some YouTube guy
to give these people this 10-minute procedure,
and I'm like, he's right.
Why is our society where we need entertainment
in the form of helping people with this 10-minute procedure,
why can't we figure out a way to solve the problems that are happening in this country?
Totally, yeah.
So I don't know if I agree with him on the solution to these problems, but he's right to call out as a –
Look, I will take Mr. Beast over Milf Manor any day, but I think we can do better.
And as long as we're giving $100 billion to Ukraine, someone pointed out, let's just give $2.5 million to every homeless veteran.
Oh, yeah, someone said – How about we give him 500 000 mr beast gave uh solved 100 000 or a thousand
people's blindness he could have bought out m1 abram for the ukrainians what was he thinking
that's a good one yeah at ukraine isn't going to stop anytime soon no that's for sure i i gotta i
gotta i gotta look at that video yeah i'm gonna watch it later i'll send it i think i said like i probably disagree with him politically on like
how we we solve it but he's completely right about that being an issue and people are ragging on him
it's like he's not mad at mr beast yeah he's mad at like the system and i agree he's gotten under
your skin that's the market that's the magic of his marketing and titling here i'm pissed that
we gave 100 billion dollars to ukraine before fixing our bridges our roads our pipes our schools you got kids drinking lead and all this other garbage and then these
leftists come out and they're like can we fix these pipes and everyone's like yes yeah yes
actually we agree with fixing the infrastructure in this country instead for some reason our
politicians just go blow up kids overseas yeah anyway but now the leftists are saying we can do
both we can fix the lead pipes and and we can aid ukraine because you know just print more money i don't know maybe maybe
that's why he's saying i didn't criticize him but maybe he's criticizing me because i said we
shouldn't be funding the war in ukraine and we should be funding i'm telling you this title has
really gotten you he's won yeah i saw this meme well good for him remember when they uh donald
trump said he was they were saying he was going to cause world war three and now they're like yeah
let's start World War III.
Yeah.
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