Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #709 Pfizer Sponsors SATANIC GRAMMYs Show, Gets SLAMMED w/John Rich

Episode Date: February 7, 2023

Tim, Ian, Hanna Claire, & Serge join John Rich to discuss Sam Smith's satanic performance at the GRAMMYs, the Proud Family reboot going full woke, the Chinese spy balloon being shot down, and ChatGPT ...being exposed as a woke echo chamber. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:51 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. What an interesting past week or weekend. Did you guys know that the Grammys happened? Because I didn't. Most people probably don't. Their ratings are in the gutter. They're down to like 9 million from a peak of 39 million 10 years ago. So nobody's watching. But I guess in a desperate attempt to be relevant, they staged a satanic Grammy performance with Sam Smith and Kim Petras, sponsored by Pfizer.
Starting point is 00:01:29 And it really is that sponsored by Pfizer, which made everybody laugh, because I don't think it's big news that an award show did something unholy or whatever. They try and do edgy, satanic stuff all the time. I mean, we've seen this stuff going back forever. People trying to be shocking or whatever. But this one was interesting because one of the performers, Kim Petras, is mostly well-known for getting a sex change
Starting point is 00:01:54 operation as a child. And so you have this individual up on stage being congratulated as the first trans woman for receiving the award. And so there's more to the conversation than just a satanic performance. This is a standing ovation from Hollywood for child sex change surgery. So, of course, there's a lot to talk about insofar as the Grammys are an attempt at a cultural institution. I mean, they were at one point, not so much anymore, but that's probably good news. And we'll talk about that. Plus,
Starting point is 00:02:18 the balloon, it was shot down. Then all of a sudden we get this report from an anonymous official saying that, well, under Trump, it happened three times. Then all of a sudden, we get this report from an anonymous official saying that, well, under Trump, it happened three times. Then you get three former top officials named saying never happened. And even if it did, like, and you know how you know it didn't happen because nobody saw it. Nobody took a picture of it. No pilots complained.
Starting point is 00:02:38 There was no there was no reports from any aviation industry company or individual like this one. We discovered it because people saw it happen. So it turns out probably one big lie. Now they're claiming, actually, the Biden administration only just discovered that three times the balloon traveled over the U.S. during the Trump administration and just nobody knew. It's amazing how that stuff works. So we'll talk about that and a bunch of other ridiculous stories. Apparently, Hunter Biden is being touted as like the next great artist or some kind of great artist.
Starting point is 00:03:08 And there's an article talking about his paintings being sold for half a million dollars a piece. And we've known about this, but, you know, we got to talk about it. And then there's a famous pro surfer female who is threatening to boycott the World Surf League unless they stop their new rule, which would allow biological males to compete against females. So this is really interesting. It has to do with more trans issues. So we'll talk all about that. Before we get started, head over to TimCast.com.
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Starting point is 00:04:03 Hey, Tim. John Rich, who are you? I am a good old boy from Nashville and I love your show, Make Little Country Music and you know you guys came through Nashville. We got to hang out a little bit, just a little, so I thought I would come up to your neck of the woods and see what's going on up here. Right on and you got a new song coming out soon? Is that what's going on? Man, I got something cool happening. So, you know, making country music my whole life, big and rich and all that. But I became a fan of this guy during the pandemic. Started scrolling through watching videos, and I run across this guy, and I went, what in the world is that?
Starting point is 00:04:36 And the deeper I got into his music, I thought, this guy's dropping more hammers per square inch in these lyrics than maybe anybody I've ever heard. It's Tom McDonald. I went, this Tom McDonald guy is vicious. So I went and followed him on Twitter. And a couple days later, I checked, and he was following me on Twitter. I said, okay, I can send him a message. So I sent him a message. I said, hey, I'm a country guy, big fan.
Starting point is 00:04:58 What do you know? He knew my music. And so we started talking back in that summer and just kept in contact. And he hit me up probably a couple months ago. And he says, hey, man, I've got the song called The End of the World. Do you want to hear it? I said, well, hell yeah. I don't hear anything from Tom McDonald.
Starting point is 00:05:15 He sends me the song, and it was just brilliant, as it always is with him. He goes, you want to sing the choruses, man? I said, me and you like a duet, you know, like together? He goes, yeah. I go, wow, the cowboy? And the rapper with the face tattoos from California doing a song together. He goes, yeah, man, if you want. So I sang on it, and it turned out really great.
Starting point is 00:05:35 And I'm working on shooting the video, and we'll put it out. It's up to Tom when it comes out, but he says very soon. It's probably the end of this month or next month. So be on the lookout for that. Cool, man. Thanks for joining us. It'll be a lot of fun. We also got Hannah Clare hanging out.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow. I'm a writer for timcast.com. I also occasionally go on Pop Culture Crisis. I'm working on making my intro longer per request. But yeah, thanks for having me on tonight. That was awesome. Thanks. John, awesome to see you again, my man.
Starting point is 00:05:58 You too. Yo, we went to your house. I know. We took a tour. The place is phenomenal. You got a huge stage we played on. Saw the rooftop garden. Not really a garden. Mostly grass and things like that on the roof. Yeah. Thanks tour. The place is phenomenal. You got a huge stage we played on. Saw the rooftop garden. Not really a garden. Mostly grass and things like that on the roof.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Yeah. Thanks again. It was excellent. I still, this is incredible feelings from that Nashville visit. I hope to do it again. Someday you have to do this show from that stage in the house and set the band up and do the whole thing. Oh, that's perfect.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Sounds good. You know what I mean? Rock and roll. Yeah. Hell yeah. Next time we're in Nashville. I'm Ian Crossland. If you don't know it, check it.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Serge Dupreya. What's up? I am at Serge.com on Twitter. I'm ready to get started. Hell yeah. Next time we're in Nashville. I'm Ian Crossland. If you don't know it, check it. Serge Dupreya. What's up? I am at Serge.com on Twitter. I'm ready to get started. All right. Here's the first story. We got this from the Post Millennial. Breaking.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Sam Smith stages satanic Grammy performance with strippers and devil horns. Petrus danced in the cage. Smith wore devil horns while dancers in long red robes with straight hair fawned around him in a ritual circle. All right. I'm going to say it. First off, and first and foremost, yeah, I don't really care about artistic, faux, satanic, whatever. But there's more to the story than just a performance at the Grammys. I think it was Brett Dasavik from Pop Culture Crisis was mentioning that Marilyn Manson did stuff like this in the 90s. It's not shocking
Starting point is 00:07:06 to be edgy and be like, ooh, I'm gonna wear devil horns. But there's a couple things about it. Notably, we have this tweet brought to you by Pfizer. Let's play it. So you've got, you know, Kim Petras and Sam Smith, you know, cheering and getting some award, and then this.
Starting point is 00:07:21 The 60th Radio Awards is sponsored by Pfizer. cheering and getting some award and then this it just really feels like um a trifecta of right-wing talking points happening all at the same time you have an unholy song it's called unholy satanic imagery brought to you by pfizer and one of individuals, Kim Petras, is famous. I believe Kim is from Germany and is famous for appearing in a documentary requesting a sex change operation at the age of 13 or 14 and actually having received it as a minor. So all of these things together, we're not just talking about an artistic show that's meant to be shocking and edgy. There actually are elements that many people are shocked by.
Starting point is 00:08:08 But I don't know. What do you guys think? Is this people overreacting? Or is it just one of those things? I don't think brought to you by Pfizer is an overreaction. That's weird, man. Corporate. I mean, it's as far away from rock and roll as you can possibly get is corporate Pfizer.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Like corporate money, drug companies and stuff. I mean, hey, they made 50. what did they make, like $50 billion? $100 billion or something in profit? I don't know. What was the number? I don't know. Was it that much? Pfizer?
Starting point is 00:08:33 Yeah. In like one year? Yeah, or maybe in the past two years, they made like $100 billion or something. Oh, my God. Well, you have guaranteed government contracts. That's basically free money. John, you've been to the Grammys multiple times, you say. Yeah, I've been nominated for nine Grammysys throughout my career how many satanic performances did you say
Starting point is 00:08:49 to date i've done a total of zero satanic performances so i guess i'm not the cool kid anymore yeah i think it's to see this sponsored by pfizer brought to you by pfizer i thought oh there's the drugs and the sex drugs and rock and roll maybe that's what that is just different kind of drugs man the kind that you have to take that Maybe that's what that is. Just different kind of drugs. The kind that you have to take that nobody knows what it's going to do. Well, you ever hear that like, I don't know, old trope of the hippie becoming the business person when they get old, like the boomers were all young and wild and crazy. And then they become suits later on. I mean, I'm wondering if the real story there is that the hippies stayed hippies and suits
Starting point is 00:09:20 stayed suits. And we just assume that because boomers were hippies, boomers, like the hippies became suits or whatever. But it's like, it's just a funny thought that sex, drugs, and rock and roll goes from being in the alley in the gutter and just STDs doing hard drugs and playing music and just degeneracy to on a stage in a multi-million dollar,
Starting point is 00:09:41 a billion dollar industry with choreography and performances and pharmaceutical drugs, not street drugs. What I got is this isn't even really satanic. This is like, if satanic's like Ozzy Osbourne chewing the head off of a live bat. That was an accident. Yeah, it was an accident, but he did.
Starting point is 00:09:55 And there's blood on stage. Maybe not satanic, Ozzy. Maybe not. People pouring blood on themselves on stage. Like dark, you know, that's a little more satanic. This is like the image of satanism it's not even real satanism it's it's all faux like they put on red and they have fire behind them but it's like supposed to be it's called it's even called unholy like it's supposed to be
Starting point is 00:10:14 satanic i don't know i don't know maybe maybe the singer who is advocating for child sex change surgery is the thing that's this is sam smith i Sam Smith. I'm just going to say Sam Smith ripped off Tom Petty with that Won't back down Won't you stand my ground that song that he did. He got stopped for it and he lost I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Yeah, Tom Petty ended up making residuals off that before he passed. I think part of the whole performance is that it's so surface level, right? Like truly provocative things your audience isn't going to
Starting point is 00:10:43 stand up and applaud afterwards and be like so great good job like this was no matter they could have done anything they could have gone out there and done nothing stood still and the audience would have been like wow groundbreaking amazing performance so glad that you guys did that uh i think part of the i think you're totally right it's not even a very uh original uh depiction of like sat and like semi anti-Christian imagery. I think it's sort of cheap and done to make it seem like we are still countercultural, but really they're not.
Starting point is 00:11:12 They are the mainstream supported by a major drug company coming out and promoting talking points that are more and more part of the mainstream narrative. Like, yes, everything we're doing is okay. It's like they want to be edgy and they can't anymore. You know what I'm just not into is it seems like the principal commentary in all this is that the performance was satanic.
Starting point is 00:11:34 And I'm just like, okay. You know, if you want to talk about Sam Smith, non-binary, child sex change operations, Pfizer being the sponsor, I'll be like, let's talk about massive multi-billion dollar corporations sponsoring satanic shows that I can get.
Starting point is 00:11:49 But it seems like most people are just saying like, look, they wore devil horns and they were dancing in red. I can't believe it. This is pure evil. And I'm like, well, what about it? Because I mean, are we going to,
Starting point is 00:11:58 seriously, we'll go back and talk about any death metal band or like black metal in Scandinavia and all the dark demonic imagery they use. I feel like there was more backlash when Miley Cyrus came out and like twerked scandinavia and all the dark demonic imagery they they use i feel like there was more backlash when uh miley cyrus came out and like twerked on someone at one of the award shows right that's arguably more satanic being sexual well and people were more upset about
Starting point is 00:12:14 you heard more of both sides being like she's so liberated that's inappropriate whatever this it's just like yes we're completely falling on party lines right there are the people who are annoyed by it are annoyed and the people who like it like it i mean there's no nuance to it anymore if they had if it had been green light all green and they were wearing shamrock hats no one would mention satanism they would and it would be called they don't even question why i was called unholy so it's like the the it's like the visage of of evil just to like sell tickets they're like look how dark look how bad we can be too but we're pfizer execs look it would have been it would have been an awesome show if they were green with Jamrock hats.
Starting point is 00:12:46 I'd have been into it. Then the Irish community is like, take it back immediately. What's wrong with us? The whole point you spend millions and millions of dollars for visual elements to music is to sell more music. It's to sell music, sell tickets. It's to push the music further. Like you got a song, you want to put a great video behind it so more people see it and hopefully love the song,
Starting point is 00:13:09 and it becomes your thing. And people sit around and have really big meetings around really big tables like this at record labels, and they spend tens of millions of dollars behind a lot of these artists all for marketing of the music of that artist and marketing the artist so more people will want to consume that content so when you look at this performance on the grammys they're sitting there going what's going to make the most people like this artist like this music you know come to come to the party here i know what let's just simulate hell on stage and then let's tag it with pfizer
Starting point is 00:13:44 which is the biggest cuss word in America right now. This is the pitch. So what does that say about what they think about the audience, that this is what they're going to pour their money into for the visual backups of the music? Yeah, they probably think we're really gullible and we'll bite and start talking about it on TV. And we did. I mean, I did. I want to talk about it. But that cuts both ways because you want people to like it. We don't like it. We're seeing it and we're repulsed by it.
Starting point is 00:14:09 But, you know, this is what happens with everything culture war related. A lot of these big companies know. I'll give you an example. When Jim Jordan was talking, we'll get super political. Jim Jordan's talking with Chuck Todd on Meet the Press. And he says, you know, with Donald Trump, you had the Secret Service protecting these documents. You had them locked. You had the DOJ actually came in and put the lock on it with Joe Biden. They're stored in a garage. Chuck Todd immediately comes to
Starting point is 00:14:33 defense of Joe Biden, despite the fact that any sane, reasonable thinking person is going to be like, what the are you talking about? Like Chuck Todd's like, no, no, no. Trump did it. Trump did it. And it's like he just laid out for you the details of the story. You're not refuting them. You're just saying, yeah, well, Trump is bad. What they're doing is 20, 2012, they had 39 million viewers. The most they've ever had. The year before it was like 29, typically averaged around 27, 28 million viewers. Then there was this massive drop-off from 2019 of like 18 million viewers to 8 million. Then in 2021, I think 2020 to 2021. Then in 2022, they had, I think, about 8.93 million.
Starting point is 00:15:15 They have no audience. Nobody watches. They'll take anything they can get. They are so desperate for attention. And I imagine there's probably some executive or somebody associated with the Grammys. And they're sitting there saying like, guys, we lost 60% of our viewers. We're dead in the water. What do we do? And they were like, people aren't going to want to watch shows like this. We need controversy. We need to piss people
Starting point is 00:15:40 off. And here's the hope. Get a bunch of conservatives angry and at the very least you will rescue a liberal audience so they start posting stuff like this hoping that shows like this generate rage but not that we will watch it that the tribalists in the cult will say well we're big fans of the grammys and then they will start endorsing it and the machine will then prop up the grammys i think to your point uh beyonce. I think she just became the most Grammy winning artist of all time at this Grammys, right? Beyonce is one of those things that like, she's one of these artists that like can do no wrong. And people, even if her music is bad, even if she's not interesting, even if she's involved
Starting point is 00:16:16 with scandal, even if her husband or her sister is filmed hitting her husband in an elevator, like she survives anything. She's bulletproof. So to be like, and we're bringing back who can who you will rally around no matter what is sort of this way to keep an audience that you know they're not trying to win us over they're trying to win their base back over uh and i mean beyonce won for uh renaissance right this is like just after she performed in um in the middle east at in a country that's completely anti-lgbtq even though her her album is supposed to be based off the black lgbt experience like it doesn't make any sense they
Starting point is 00:16:52 don't have to follow their own rules they just have to bring out the figureheads that they like and know that you'll cheer for them because it's making someone else angry someone you don't like angry i didn't know beyonce performed until just now i care so little about this whole I'm a musician and I don't even I talk to me this I I credit all of this knowledge to pop culture crisis I go on and they teach me about these things uh I knew she was performing because an influencer that I follow on occasion was at this big private resort opening and she was performing for like some crazy amount of money but what happened to music, John, in the last decade? Well, that's a great question.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I just hear, and you're right about what they're trying to do is to, you said salvage what's left of their liberal base. That's a good way to put it. But then I have to think, well, what's wrong with that base that that would salvage them? Well, I think. I mean, you understand that's how regular people look at it. Like, I'm a dad, I got two sons, you know, they can't, I'm not going to let them watch the Grammys.
Starting point is 00:17:52 I mean, one of my sons caught a little piece of it and said, Dad, it looks like they're all in hell. And I said, no, we're in hell for having to watch it. You know, change the channel. I mean, he was going, what am I looking at? You know, a little kid who loves music, and he's seeing that go on, like Sam Smith is being devoured by demons on the stage
Starting point is 00:18:11 when they push him down at the end, like they're eating him or whatever that was supposed to be, and then brought to you by Pfizer, and my son goes, the vaccine company's behind this? I went, yeah, he's 11. Well, so it used to be that there were very few channels. Cable TV didn't get really that much ratings because it cost money, and so the Grammys probably
Starting point is 00:18:29 got 30 million viewers because people turned on the TV, and that's what was on. Everybody was talking about it. Then the internet started becoming more and more prominent. YouTube videos, I remember back in the day in the early days of YouTube, you could put out a video on these big channels, we'd get like a million hits because there was very few,
Starting point is 00:18:46 there was very little content on it that was worth watching. A bunch of weird stuff like a person filming a birthday party, then all of a sudden, higher quality content. But as more and more people started to use the internet,
Starting point is 00:18:55 things started to decentralize and viewers started to flatten out. So I remember talking to some big YouTubers who were like, we used to get a million, million and a half, now we get 50 to 100K.
Starting point is 00:19:05 And I'm like, well yeah, now you're competing with 10, 100 times as many people. So the ratings for everybody drops. And what ends up happening is extremism and drama and hard, like, view politics are your path to getting clicks. So the thing about news is that everybody knows. Everybody knows everything, right? The balloon happens. Someone posts on Twitter, there's a balloon over Montana.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Instantly, everybody knows. So there's no news channel. You can't make a news show and be like, ladies and gentlemen, there's a balloon over Montana. They'd be like, dude, I heard that on Twitter. Instantly, you're telling me nothing. So what ends up happening is that news programs become people programs where they talk about their view of the news, like what we're doing, quite literally. But more importantly, they realize there's more views in talking about personal issues. So here's what ends up happening with something like this. In my view, they know they're never getting back those 39 million viewers,
Starting point is 00:19:59 because that was a captive audience. But if they're going to get back any amount of viewers, they need to create a tribe that will latch onto them. Do this and you will get hard line, hard politic, woke, liberal people who will defend you and watch just because you're on their side. That's how it works. So I think if this is the path things are going, part of me wonders if these platforms will die off because I'm hoping. You know, here's my gamble. Human nature is some people may want the shot content, the tribalism and the drama, and some people might want the conversation. And I'm hoping the conversation, the ideas are actually what's going to win. But I got to be honest. I'm not the most confident considering that these companies keep doing stuff like this they're not backing down maybe they'll fail and got a
Starting point is 00:20:49 business and we'll all be proven right or maybe what's going to happen is you're going to find that humans really do just want to consume gutter trash coliseum content watch the lions rip apart the gladiators yeah uh you're talking about the grammys the people that the company that runs that might go bankrupt at some point is that the company you're talking about? Their views are down from two years ago by 60 some odd percent. It's no longer that we have to wait a year to hear what like 30 people think is the best song on earth at some award ceremony. It used to be. Now the Grammys should have their own YouTube network or their own network where every week you go there and there's new videos and songs on Grammy.com or whatever. They should pivot.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Like waiting for the oscars to show to tell me what was good i already know i saw it i don't need to and award shows used to have this exclusive exclusivity to celebrities right like they're coming down the red carpet and what are you wearing and who do they bring as their date but now you see all of that on social media any celebrity who's appearing at these event has some sort of social media following so some of the mystery of you know being removed when we didn't have social media when you were waiting you had to watch the broadcast to get all of these details about these people that you look up to or you're interested in or you're following or whatever like
Starting point is 00:21:53 you can get that at the drop of a hat now so you're right like the grammys and all the other award shows need to adapt or die because i don't think anyone looks i'm very few people i definitely don't look to these institutional award shows to say like ah yes you have recommended a good song to me I will listen to it now you know like it doesn't mean anything anymore you're more likely to get a reference from someone you know personally and then you don't
Starting point is 00:22:16 have this elite space where you're saying oh well I get to see the celebrities live you see them all the time they're overexposed on social media let's jump to this story from the Daily Mail I saw actually this tweet first from Jack Posobiec. Woke Disney sparks outrage with new kids cartoon that claims America was built on slavery as it pushes reparations and says Lincoln had no desire to liberate the enslaved. That last part's true. Lincoln had no desire to liberate the enslaved.
Starting point is 00:22:42 That's a fact. Anybody who reads about Civil War knows that even the Emancipation Proclamation only applied to states in rebellion from the United States, meaning there were several northern states that had slavery that were exempt from it. is the desperate attempt to generate tribalism for money, mission-driven storytelling, because an entertainment product won't cut it anymore. And I think that's what this is more about. But this also results, I mean, look at this.
Starting point is 00:23:15 This is what they're teaching your kids. The U.S. still has not atoned for slavery. And look how pissed off these characters are. You're supposed to, your kids are going to watch this and they're going to see
Starting point is 00:23:25 a bunch of angry young people saying the United States is not atoned for this and they demand reparations when in reality, the United States has, in my opinion, more than atoned in a lot of ways
Starting point is 00:23:34 and in ways that it's not politically correct to talk about and that no one, none of these people will have an honest conversation with you about and they will teach your kids because two things are happening.
Starting point is 00:23:44 One, the industries are dying. They need to find a way to make money. How are they going to do it? Okay, we're not going to get a general audience anymore. General audience is no longer a thing. With the decentralization of the internet and streaming platforms, you need directed audience. You need a core audience. Choose what your audience is. When I worked for Fusion, they said our target audience are young progressives and that means we are going to side with them and tell the stories they want to hear outright saying as a media company we are here to say what they want to hear deliver them a product not we try and capture everybody and tell them the news that that was their mission that's what
Starting point is 00:24:22 this is and so what i see here is, the other thing is, it's the long game, man. You're going to sit here and be like, well, you know, it's one show, whatever. Those kids are going to grow up. It's the only thing they're going to hear because people are too scared to speak up. And then this is what they're getting
Starting point is 00:24:36 from Disney. And parents thinking in their minds, Disney is like Bambi, are buying this for their kids, but instead their kids are being told that America sucks, has never atoned and you know angry it's what you're going to end up with is a group of young people who are extremely unhappy hopeless and pissed off well i think when you said lawn ball another thing came to my mind which is there's a lot of people, Americans, born and raised Americans in big,
Starting point is 00:25:11 powerful positions all throughout our country that dream of the day where America is no longer a standalone independent entity. They want to see one world money, one world military, one world medicine, one world everything. And you can't have one world anything as long as the United States is still standing on both feet and able to hold its own. So if you can disincentivize kids, brainwash them and grow them up into a young adult of military age that is not willing to fight for their country, they don't think their country is worth fighting for, guess what? They won't fight for their country and they won't be too upset if somebody wants to come in here and take the place over take it down you know if you think about the world war ii generation had the great benefit of being around grandparents uh my granddaddy multiple purple hearts in world war ii you're around those people you know my grandmother's dragon metal in from the ditches around texas
Starting point is 00:25:59 to the schoolyard where they would melt it down and turn it into tanks and airplanes and bullets that's what they had to do to save not only the United States but the whole world. You don't have that attitude with a lot of young people right now. And stuff like this Disney crap, you say parents think that Disney's teaching their kids, showing their kids something good. More and more parents, Tim, are waking up to the fact that Disney does not have the best interests of their kids at heart. I can promise you. You can look at the
Starting point is 00:26:25 stats on how many people are visiting Disney right now. It is plummeting because people realize, hang on, these people are trying to brainwash my kids. These people are trying to teach my kids instead of me teaching my kids. Now, I don't know who in here has kids. Maybe I'm the only one, but nothing, we talked about this last time I was with you, nothing will bring out the vicious teeth of a mom or a dad more, whether they're a left-leaning parent, center, or right-leaning parent. Nothing brings their teeth out faster than thinking some stranger is taking their autonomy and authority away from their own household.
Starting point is 00:26:59 That is when the fists come up. And so Disney's just doing it on a multi-billion dollar level. But again, it's like the Grammys. It's so blatant now. We used to accuse them of, you know what they're really trying to do, right? And they'd say, oh, go put your tinfoil hat back on. They're not doing that. Well, we don't have to accuse them of it anymore because it's right in front of our faces.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And parents are waking up to it. So good. I'm glad Disney is doing that. It's just another strike against them as far as I'm concerned. One of the most frustrating things about the whole woke ideology is, one, it's – I mean, look, if you want to make an argument about slaves building the country and reparations, we can have the conversation. It doesn't necessarily have to be rooted in critical race theory and stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:37 But the critical race theory stuff is resulting in segregation, racial animosity. And there's been numerous polls. I think Gallup ran a poll that said people view racial tensions in this country worse now, you know, after the Obama presidency than before. Like following his presidency, all we got from the left was race, race, race, race, race. And this is, you know, I'm growing up in a world where they're passing laws and there's court rulings to end discrimination based on race. And you end up now with this. The U.S. has still not atoned for slavery, which is just generating, in my opinion, more racial animosity. I'll put it this way. When I
Starting point is 00:28:18 said that I think this country more than atoned, how many people died in the Civil War? Like 1.8 million or something like that? Now, granted, there's a lot of confederates there but let me just point out the confederacy doesn't exist anymore it's gone and so after the the the states that wanted slavery were crushed in one of the most bloody military conflicts ever i'd have to argue that the north militaristically crushing the south was and then then all of the, all of the Northerners who oppose slavery. And it wasn't completely about slavery, mind you, I understand that. But the end of slavery brought about through the Civil War, I think is, it counts as atonement on the part of the North at the very least, and the South no longer exists. After the South was
Starting point is 00:29:00 defeated, they were occupied by Northern forces in the Reconstruction era, which didn't end until there was almost another Civil War. So when they come out and they're like, this country still hasn't atoned, I'm like, I don't know, I kind of think like half a million to 800,000 dead soldiers fighting to end the expansion of slavery, at the very least, which resulted in the end of slavery, sounds like atonement to me. And then also keep in mind that much of the country's expansion and development happened after this. In fact, one of the key components of the Civil War was that Abraham Lincoln was saying, I could be getting this wrong. It's been a while since I read about
Starting point is 00:29:33 it. There's people who know more than me, obviously, academics. But what was really happening was the current state of politics was to stop the expansion of slavery into new territories as they became states. So California, for instance, was never a slave state. It entered as a free state, was always a free state. And so it was ending the expansion. Slavery was being suppressed, essentially. So they want to argue it was never atoned for, but I'm like, man, not only was the political environment to shut it down slowly over time with massive resistance, those who tried to keep it were crushed with military force. And you want to talk about atonement? How about Sherman's march to the sea and the decimation of family homes and cities and villages or the ransacking and burning of Richmond?
Starting point is 00:30:18 This kind of stuff pisses me off because it's a bunch of ideological blowhards. And they put out these videos. I watched one where this woman's like, we shouldish private property also i'm moving into my own house it is it is psychotic lunacy that's going to result in in my opinion all of these good things that we've retained while getting rid of the bad will be destroyed we'll be wiped out and then we'll all be left holding empty bags in the middle of the woods fending for ourselves yeah i was gonna say this show the proud family aired in the early 2000s so i remember watching it as a kid and i'm kind of sad to see them injecting this very obviously uh pointed ideology into it because
Starting point is 00:30:55 it was one of the first tv shows i remember seeing i think it is the first time i remember seeing uh muslim characters to picture on television yeah true there's like a whole episode where she like the penny the main character does kind of like an exchange but it's within her own school district with a muslim family and she has to wear hijab and like talk about it and whatever else and like there are ways to talk about culture and ways to talk about the challenges different people face coming into america without it being like let's all blame one person and let's have it be about how this country is bad. You know, this show is actually interesting and this is the reboot. I wish they would have stuck with
Starting point is 00:31:31 what they were trying to do in the early 2000s. Like inclusion, diversity, equity, and inclusion. That's a big part of the critical race theory is the inclusion of it. So why exclude? Why talk about evil and them and those if you really want to include people in the process? And I will also say this country was born on the backs of British subjects.
Starting point is 00:31:52 British subjects that had to fight a war to overthrow their slave master, King George. The whole thing, all of us, come from slaves. Can you name another country that fought a civil war Over slavery in large part Name any other nation in the history of the planet They've all had slaves Every empire had slaves Is there any other one that fought a civil war to end it I'm going to look up
Starting point is 00:32:16 I think it's just us I'm going to start searching Because maybe there is I don't know one off the top of my head You know they come after these kids young The CRT stuff That even landed in a little too close to home a few years ago. And I read it, and I'm looking at it, and I'm thinking about,
Starting point is 00:32:34 there's my son sitting next to his best friend who he plays baseball with, who's black, and my son's a white kid, and they're both reading the same thing. And it's saying, if you're this color, then this the same thing and it's saying if you're this color then this is what you're about and if you're that color you don't have a chance and these both these kids are looking at each other going my son felt like he needed to apologize he's like man i didn't know you know they're little kids and the other kid felt terrible because he's like what do you mean i don't have a chance we both hit home runs last weekend. It's all negativity. Oh, it's terrible.
Starting point is 00:33:05 It is mind torture. Right. Yeah, it's disgusting. Well, and this is his best friend, right? Are they going to spend the rest of the time they go to school together being like, well, wait, there's actually something terrible about us being friends. Well, they would if they didn't have parents that told them, hey, that's nonsense. That's true.
Starting point is 00:33:20 And a lot of kids don't have parents like that. And you're right. A lot of them don't. Yep. I'm trying to follow up on this. It looks like maybe Brazil fought a revolution to overthrow slavery. Was this Pedro, Emperor Pedro? I'm getting this all wrong.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I need more data. It's like sign up to look at Quora. I don't want to sign up, guys. Well, in the UK, they abolished slavery, I think, a couple decades before the United States did. So the argument from a lot of these people is that if the US never had. never had independence and it was just a colony of the U.K., slavery would have ended a lot sooner. I kind of don't think so. I think the Civil War would have just been the Southern Revolution. I mean, that's basically what it was. The Confederacy was trying to secede from the Union, make their own country. And if the U.K. was doing the same
Starting point is 00:34:00 thing, I'd imagine they would have done the exact same thing. The only difference is they'd be fighting against the crown. I don't know what the strength of the crowns at that point it'd be really interesting history to see like the war of 1812 actually ends up as some kind of conflict over slavery or probably not because i think it was like 1830 or whatever the uk finally abolished it or something like that but i don't know man long story short i think the people who write this stuff they just have no idea what they're talking about and that's a lot of what guides culture in uh for humans and man i don't know it's kind of depressing right uh bill maher did this really great segment i guess last week talking about how culture revolutionaries want to erase human nature and you can't mao wanted to get rid of the four great
Starting point is 00:34:45 olds or whatever old culture and stuff like that and you can't do it and then he says in the soviet union they had this idea of like the strong soviet man who cared more about being part of a collective than of individualism and then bill maher makes the joke that um when in reality the soviet man just wanted to wear a tracksuit be on a yacht with a beautiful woman and then he shows a guy in a tracksuit or whatever. But the thing about – the reason I bring up Bill Maher is that he's very much in line with a lot of this stuff too. Notably his PragerU – I'm sorry, his Prager interview. Not interview, but the conversation when he was on the panel.
Starting point is 00:35:32 And Prager said they're putting tampons in the men's room, and Bill Maher laughed at him. Like Bill Maher may be doing better than a lot of these mainstream default liberal types when it comes to not understand when it comes to understanding some of the news and what's happening in our culture. But even he's behind. And so you end up with Bill Maher, who's supposed to represent like a higher class of political commentary. You know, it's smarter than Jon Stewart, but still funny, things like that. and even they don't have any any idea what they're talking about they're not reading current news they're not talking about current cultural issues they're behind the curve by a couple years so i don't know man uh part of me is not particularly helpful to be completely honest if everything is racist and nothing is racist yeah true and so the best way to keep people fired up about racism because i believe that that people that push crap like this, they want to see racism.
Starting point is 00:36:08 They need to see racism. They need that hatred to exist so they have a reason to go out and make the money that they make doing whatever it is, the angle that they're pushing. And so the best way to do that is anybody that I disagree with, I'm going to call them a racist. And then the other person goes, we weren't even talking about that. What do you mean I'm a racist?
Starting point is 00:36:27 They go, no, you're a racist. You just don't know it. That's part of the CRT thing is you don't even know that you're a racist, but you are. Trust me. It's like vaccines and Pfizer, right? Yeah. You know, you need another one. Now you need a booster.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Now you need another thing. Like if you solved racism, who would fund all these nonprofits, right? It happened to me in 2016, best friend in LA. We were talking, talk politics every day, pretty much. We would watch Rachel Maddow and he'd have CNN on the background.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I was talking about Hillary Clinton's emails and her servers and like, oh my gosh, look at what she did with Sidney Blumenthal with Osprey Global Solutions in Libya, gun run for, you know, it's basically privateering. He's getting Sidney Blumenthal all this money.
Starting point is 00:37:03 And he's like, you're white privilege. You've got white privilege. Like it just came down to, you've got white privilege. And I, it was the first time I'd Sidney Bloom with all this money. And he's like, you've got white privilege. Like, it just came down to, oh, you've got white privilege. And it was the first time I'd ever been told that in my life. And I was like, what the hell is going on? I'm talking about Hillary's emails, dude. Look, look at the data.
Starting point is 00:37:14 And he's like, you're just racist. Your white privilege is coming out. And it was shocking. Blown, powerless. I didn't know how to respond. No wasn't enough. No, I'm not isn't enough. If they keep saying it over and over. And I just had to disengage. I didn't know how to respond. No wasn't enough. No, I'm not isn't enough. If they keep saying it over and over,
Starting point is 00:37:27 and I just had to disengage. I left. I haven't talked to the guy hardly at all. It's really one of the worst things you can call somebody. What's worse than being called a racist? Well, there's a lot of worse things. I don't know. I mean, that's like if you were actually a racist,
Starting point is 00:37:41 like a real racist, that's one of the nastiest humans around. If you're an actual racist, I mean, I've run into a couple of them, and you're like, wow, I don't want, mm-mm. You know, I mean, they're really nasty people from all sectors of the world that are true racists. So when you're called one and you're not one and that word gets thrown around so flippantly, at this point, it almost has lost its sting because everything, like I said, if everything's racist, then nothing is racist. Most countries in the world are extremely racist. The United States, in my opinion, is the least racist place I've ever been.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Totally. I think Sweden may have been one of the most racist places I've ever been. And they masquerade as opposing racism. Yeah. But then they're like super racist, you know? I mean, they can think that they're not racist because they have homogenous society, right? Like this argument gets made about Japan all the time. They're very strict on immigration.
Starting point is 00:38:35 You cannot live in Japan. But Sweden's issue is that they kind of don't. They have pockets of racial minorities from other parts of the world that they've boxed in, claim they're not racist, and then segregate these people from their own society and refuse to hire them while acting like they're all progressive that's that's what i mean like at least in japan they're honest about them being like our country is japan for the japanese so you can't come here sweden's like oh we love and care about everybody you know they're allowed to come here everybody in the box and then i i heard this from a lot of people, even Americans.
Starting point is 00:39:06 I heard an American woman who moved to Sweden saying that they wouldn't hire her because she had an accent. She spoke Swedish but had an accent. And they were like, nope. There's like no integration. Did you get that too? Traveling around? You've been around. How many countries have you lived in, Serge?
Starting point is 00:39:19 I have no idea. Probably like 10 or so. You were nodding when Tim was saying America's the least racist? Yeah, by far. And people just don't realize that because they've rarely been other places. So they often talk from an American perspective about these things and think that, you know, people in, for instance, China, oh, they're not, they're like not, they're extremely racist if they're Han Chinese against even other Chinese like people within China.
Starting point is 00:39:39 China, you say. Should we talk about China? China. China. What a perfect opportunity for a segue good timing all right let's jump to the story we got this from timcast.com chinese surveillance balloon may have contained explosives designed to self-destruct anytime you down something like this we have to make assumptions such as that's uh such as that said air force general glenn d
Starting point is 00:40:02 van her i wonder if that's the real reason they did not want to shoot it down because the debris is one thing, but if it had something in it really bad, I guess the concern is what if it had a bomb, what if it had some kind of device and shooting it down would, you know, poison or biological weapon?
Starting point is 00:40:20 You said it before the show, I think, John, the EMP, the best way to deliver it would be, or one of the best ways would be via balloon because it's so high up and then it's got just a wide berth of explosive it goes higher than an airplane can go to shoot it down like if it's at 150,000 feet you know you can't get a plane up that high really there there was a whole listen you guys can go look it up but there's a operation called operation hard tack in the 50s and it was nuclear test and it was also emp tests and the emp tests they were running they were detonating the emps from balloons at about 150 000 feet up and the reason because that is the most that's that's the
Starting point is 00:41:00 most effective range for an emp to really do its damage down on the ground. And you can go read the report. It's a few pages long, but it's very interesting. So when I saw that balloon floating across, I thought, I wonder if there's an EMP in that thing. How many more balloons are there floating around? We've always talked about what if the grid went down? We all know you guys talk about that a lot, but if you had no electricity in America for a year, you'd have 10% of the people left. That's not me saying it. That's all the military strategists that have ever looked at it. You'd have about one out of 10 Americans would survive something like that for a year.
Starting point is 00:41:35 It's almost unsurvivable. EMP also, this is an interesting thing, that in Iran, in their war manifesto, like how they would carry out a war, they find an EMP to be Sharia compliant because the EMP itself does not mass kill anybody. It's what the EMP causes that mass kills everybody. But the EMP itself does not cause a mass death. As a matter of fact, it causes no death because it's way up there. It's Sharia compliant. So people don't realize that EMPs are the go-to,
Starting point is 00:42:11 they're the go-to first track weapon, put everybody in the dark. So when I saw that, that balloon, I went, I wonder if there's an EMP in that thing. And maybe that's why they didn't shoot it down. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:20 They knew it was coming for, I think a week or five days. But that's legit. It sounds dumb to people. Oh, that's so stupid. They're going to send a balloon up. Well, well that's you were saying it's because they don't have heat signatures or they have very low heat yeah they're analog basically i mean you know
Starting point is 00:42:31 there's not a lot to them and they move so slow and so high you know they're in between the satellites and airspace and where the airplanes fly so they're they're kind of in this zone where they're hard to get to them and you know if you send a missile in with an emp you could see that coming you would see it take off and you go oh there's a missile try to knock it down this balloon just kind of floats in and here's a balloon floating from alaska to south carolina and uh what did it actually have self-destruct instructions aboard like it was supposed to destroy itself afterwards i have no idea i don't think anybody knows anything about any of it my first guess is that it was their version of Google Maps. They were tracking.
Starting point is 00:43:08 They're trying to map North America, but they're just so poor at communication with the United States. No one knew ahead of time, but then they blew it up. So either they're mapping Google Maps, and they didn't want to tell anyone because they're so secretive, or they were actually tracking and mapping all of our sensitive data on in purpose and they came down on purpose they said it was blown off course um i thought it was blown off course that's the first thing i thought wouldn't they have notified someone if it got blown off course i
Starting point is 00:43:33 mean blinken was supposed to go meet with the chinese government and now he's not going to because oh he's not yeah because they couldn't like the balloon being blown off course especially if they're like oh it's just studying the weather. Like, why didn't you just say, hey, we lost our large analog balloon. Could you please let us know if you see it? But it wasn't blown off course because it was stopping and hovering over nuclear silo installations and would sit there and then it would start moving again. And it was sending data. Let's be realistic in real time.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Without a doubt, I'd be shocked if it was not just transmitting data the whole time they let it fly, float slowly across the United States and track that. What if there was a biological weapon placed in the balloon? So we want the balloon shot down immediately. Why was it allowed? Blah, blah, blah. If they were,
Starting point is 00:44:20 I think Montana would have been a great place to shoot it down. No offense to Montana, but a lot of big open space. And so they could quickly come in, quarantine, and isolate. Maybe their concern was then you're going to get into the press is going to be there. You shoot it down. Are you going to be able to contain the area in time when the debris comes down? They're already searching for explosives.
Starting point is 00:44:39 And they waited until it was over water to take it out. Maybe that was their concern. They didn't know what it had. It was over water in Alaska. Well, right. It was over water to take it out. Maybe that was their concern. They didn't know what it had. It was over water in Alaska. Well, right. It was over water in Alaska. There's nobody up there. It went over all of Alaska and they just had nothing.
Starting point is 00:44:52 And it wasn't until someone saw it. Right. If you were worried there was a biological weapon on it, I mean, the least populated area is over the water outside of Alaska. And then through Canada? Came down through Canada? And then it came down through British Columbia and Alberta. If it did have something on it that was extremely dangerous,
Starting point is 00:45:10 taking it out in Canada would be the best option because I know Americans get hurt. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Well, why didn't Canada take it out? That's the real question. Tom McDonald would not appreciate that comment. Canada doesn't have the capabilities. Shout out to Canada.
Starting point is 00:45:21 But still. I love Canada, man. It's so sad To see them getting Railroaded by the government With like the trucker convoys And stuff Because they're the most Cool people
Starting point is 00:45:28 They're like the most like Oh I'll help you then Yeah Like anything Like my hair's on fire Oh get in the back of the car Man I'll take you for a ride then I've played every hockey rink
Starting point is 00:45:38 In the whole nation of Canada I've toured that country I bet I've played 200, 300 shows in Canada And you're right the people you got a little bitty towns like Lethbridge Alberta and little you know Kamloops and those kind of places yeah they're some of the greatest people in the world in America we talk about how these big cities are very different from flyover states and everything like that like it's
Starting point is 00:45:59 even more so in Canada because the population population is even smaller. I mean, my experience, because my family's Canadian, has always been going there to spend time with them. And they just make fun of America. Everyone makes fun of Americans. But you want to be like, you guys are not unified at all. So somebody's mentioning that Alex Jones pointed out, or Alex Jones is saying it's a test balloon, and the next one will have an EMP.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Or the next 60. What will happen next time is you'll see 60 coming from different directions. Well, this is the worst case scenario. You see them all coming at once. It's like you ever see that Fire in the Sky movie where they sent one, the aliens sent like one thing and it was all this, oh no, what are we going to do? What are we going to do?
Starting point is 00:46:36 They spent the whole movie trying to figure out how to stop it. They finally figured, I think it's called Fire in the Sky. They finally get rid of it. And then like the next day you just see thousands of them coming and it's like, oh, oh. Dude, we couldn't even handle one freaking balloon. One. What do you think Douglas MacArthur or General Patton would have done if an Italian or Nazi or Japanese balloon had floated across mainland U.S.? You blow it up.
Starting point is 00:47:00 You immediately get that guy on the phone, the head, and then you harangue them publicly. Bad things would happen. Yeah. Dude, what if, I was thinking last night or this morning, what if the government was taken over by a foreign entity? All of a sudden, the airwaves come up and it's like, we are in control. Everything's okay. It's the Chinese government's in control.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Who would even do anything about it now? I feel so fractured. Society is so fractured. Wait, wait. If there was a government, if the American government was taken over by a foreign government yeah people would just sit there yeah like he said also joe biden's not the president it's xi jinping and he's like we've got it under control wow yeah what if that happened like crazy i've got a feeling there are secret even bad i cannot imagine i have the craziest thing i've ever heard i have faith i hope fortunately that will never happen
Starting point is 00:47:43 it's impossible. Impossible. This is why I hope we'd have really strong state governors, right? Hunter Biden flew on Air Force Two to China not to negotiate any kind of subservience, but to tell them off and say no. And that $5 million loan, loan, forgivable loan was was them saying, please, please take this money and leave. Yeah, forgive us. It freaks me out that Alex said that that's a test balloon because i am not that's what isn't that what jack said that's literally what i said yeah that's what you guys all said i said it's a literal trial balloon they're they're sending it through to see our response and our response was an
Starting point is 00:48:18 inability to handle it we were i think i think the real fear was if it had explosives on it or something and they shot out of the sky there, what if there was a gravity bomb on it? Like a one megaton bomb. And the trick was if we shot it down, we nuke ourselves. So we're – everyone's sitting here being like Biden should have shot it down. Well, there's probably some things he could have done for sure instead of just like being like we're going to let it fly over the whole country because assuming it had a bomb, it could have been waiting over its target. You know what I mean? So if you think there's a problem, your best bet, Montana.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Sorry, Montana. I'm not trying to be a dick. I think you're an awesome state. But probably the better place. Or, yeah, off the Aleutian Islands. I mean, not in the middle of the freezing water. Did they detect it when it was in Alaska? Yeah, they did.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Oh, yeah, they saw it when it, they saw it, they've now confirmed they saw it coming across the pacific they just didn't say anything they didn't say anything yeah so so what if they were letting stuff like this happen you know what what if joe biden was working at the behest of the chinese communist party you know what what if huh don't want to say anything about it till civilians caught it that's right and they had to admit that yeah it is and then they did nothing yeah nothing maybe they were on standby and they're like, if it veers off course towards a major city, we'll take it out.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Maybe they've waited until they knew the whole world was looking like this all day long. Just like that to start sending in the balloons. Because we never look up. We're always looking down. Dude. And now they know that if they do send something, the Americans are afraid of it. They got that in the bag. This is all art of war stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:44 They're just gauging what we did. And now next time we'll have to be a little harder if we see another balloon. They don't know that ahead of time. They're going to, I think you're right. We're going to see multiple balloons. If they see another balloon, dude, that's an act of war in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:49:58 I agree. That's not an accident. I agree. I think this wasn't an accident. And there were two, one went over Latin America. But I think right before they go for Taiwan, that's why they did this how will we respond and so this is the analogy i said last week guy who's planning on robbing a liquor store knows having the gun in new york is illegal but he doesn't care because he's already intending to do something substantially
Starting point is 00:50:20 worse which is use a gun to rob someone. China, when they were about to invade Taiwan, they know our reaction is going to be some kind of war response. So they don't care if we're mad about a balloon. Like the balloon is inconsequential compared to how pissed off we're going to be when they move on Taiwan. They know. So I'm willing to bet we will see some kind of sign like this right before Taiwan gets hit. And China's already been mobilizing warships and fighters. And Taiwan is on a high alert, mobilizing their their Navy, their Air Force, their their fighters, whatever they have. And then this happens.
Starting point is 00:50:54 I'm like, oh, boy, it's coming. Well, I think they sorry, I'm just going to say I think China also wins by showing the American people that we don't it confirms for a lot of people why you shouldn't have confidence in the government, right? If you're someone who's already skeptical of the Biden administration or our military strength, and we just let a balloon float across the country for days, China wins because it now knows the American people are at war with its own government. Let's jump to this next story from TMZ. I love this TMZ. Great reporting here. Ex-Trump officials refute DOD claim. Three had flown here before. Yo, TMZ hits the nail on the
Starting point is 00:51:32 head. They're like, look, we have several guys who would know. Former director of national intelligence, former secretary of defense and former secretary of state all saying no balloons flew over the US duringS. during the Trump administration. When this when this OK, so this weekend I'm looking at my phone and I see a story breaking three balloons fly over the U.S. during Trump administration. I thought to myself, well, you know, if we're wrong, we'll own up to it. We'll go on the show and say we stand corrected because we said under Trump, this never would have happened.
Starting point is 00:52:01 And if it did, he shot him down. And now here it is. Wait a minute. What's this? An anonymous official said in some report. So we have no evidence. Nobody saw it happen. Nobody reported it.
Starting point is 00:52:14 No pilots. No aviation experts. No aviation industry individuals. Not a single photographer. No one ever saw anything like this happen. No one's reported. And three officials have refuted it. Huh. I knew knew if i waited 10 minutes the story would be debunked and now here we are fake news well it's so they double speak in the statement they say three
Starting point is 00:52:33 undetected balloons went across the united states well if they're undetected dumbass how do you know they came across the united states meaning you if this is true, you did detect them, but you didn't tell the commander in chief about it. Well, what's that called? Treason. Well, the official anonymous quote is Chinese balloons briefly transited the continental United States at least three times during the prior administration. You know, undetected.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Well, who did it? Somebody detected them. It doesn't say detected. I'm joking. But we didn't say anything. But here's my favorite part. So these three officials come out and they say it's not true. So, you know, the Biden administration just came out and said this morning.
Starting point is 00:53:13 They said, we only just discovered it happened now and we will brief former Trump officials on this. Get the out of here. You guys didn't detect them, but we have detected them. That's right. And we have to let you know right because because they have the they have the the osiris device which allows them to look at this giant crystal and rewind time and look at the skies previously through you know so they can like look in the past in the future you know i'm having these visions of being in the oval office running this because this is so like more and more it's actually really happening to me i'm like okay this is what it looks like these are the documents that you get in the Oval Office running this because this is so, like more and more, it's actually really happening to me.
Starting point is 00:53:45 I'm like, okay, this is what it looks like. These are the documents that you get in the morning. I could have some, like, I'm ready. Like, I cannot sit by as old man 85 gets elected another. John, do you think your kids are better liars than this? My kids are better, yeah. Do they take over?
Starting point is 00:54:01 My kids' lie would stick up longer than that, yes. But look, we might get it, but how many people, like the Krasenensteins for instance are are ignoring the fact that three former officials said no it didn't happen they don't care they're they are satisfied with one anonymous official saying it happened boom there it is it happened and i'm like okay well i have three named officials and the simple fact that there's no evidence to suggest this didn't happen but i gotta tell you ian i think they're in the oval office and biden's it there and he's like hey just just say it happened under trump and they were like oh that's a good one okay and then they call up their their favorite journalists and say hey here's the story and
Starting point is 00:54:40 they go you got it and they run it i wonder if the journalists call them they're like we'll just say it happened to trump and they're like thanks they call the journalists and say i got a tip for you i mean so their anonymous official says this but we know not long ago 51 actual officials said that the russia thing was true 51 of them remember that all 51 of these big dogs saying oh no no this this whole russia it's not a hoax. It's not a hoax. Of course, we found out it absolutely was a hoax. But now it's an anonymous official. Nobody wants to put their name on it. So, I mean, what does that even mean? They think we're stupid.
Starting point is 00:55:13 And unfortunately, well, fortunately for us, we're not. I think there's a lot of Americans that want to go, what's the big deal? It's a stupid balloon. Well, those are the people you really can't help at this point. But for the rest of us who are thinking people and know what's really going on in the world and we know what the dangers are that's a big big deal to see something like that you know you're talking about a communist chinese enemy of the united states floating a militarized vehicle all the way across the mainland it came 50 miles north of n. Wow. Did you see it?
Starting point is 00:55:45 No, it was too far out. It was just 50 miles out of Nashville. But I mean, for that to be going on in 2023, it almost seems like, like I said earlier, there are people in this country that want to see America go down. They want to see it happen. The second anybody listened to this, you're looking at the situation going, i can't believe people are that stupid i can't believe these
Starting point is 00:56:09 people are that inept they're not stupid and they're not inept at all it's all calculated it's all part of it again you can't have one world money one world medicine one world militaries as long as america is standing up on both feet america has to be reaching up for a hand what's the only way any person can reach up to something they have to be lower than whatever they're reaching up to well america is not lower than anybody right now you got to put america down on a knee what's a good way to do that oh i don't know let let some balloons float across the country and turn the lights out one time just an an idea. In 2012, I went to the largest hacker convention, DEF CON and Black Hat.
Starting point is 00:56:50 And it happened about the same time, August, in Las Vegas. And at the Black... So DEF CON is... Well, I got some choice words for the people at DEF CON these days. I won't go there ever again. But it used to be legit hacker community stuff. Now it's just like overrun with woke fear there's also another conference
Starting point is 00:57:06 called hackers on planet earth they did somewhat of a better job but the woke people have really overrun the hacker community and they're like they're not even really hackers but anyway I digress
Starting point is 00:57:15 I was there in 2012 and Black Hat is more corporate cyber security and things like that and a couple of guys were doing a demonstration on how a single, this is 2012, mind you, a single commercial drone that costs 200 bucks could have a transmitter
Starting point is 00:57:32 placed on it that if flown within 40 miles of any kind of plant with some kind of receiver on it, it could send a signal and destroy it. Just that. These other guys did a demo of how to blow up a fluid processing plant. This could be crude, it could be petrochemical, it could be water. And basically what they said was, with a few lines of code injected into their systems, because they're like insecure systems from the 70s, you could make the machine direct the fluid in the same direction, causing a massive pressure buildup and then a pipe burst, which would disable a water plant or blow up a petrochemical plant.
Starting point is 00:58:12 And they did a demonstration where they were like, here's how it's, they're called industrial control systems. They're like, here's how it works. The machine says the fluid shall go in this direction. When one tank needs to be changed or whatever, the fluid might go in the other direction. This is a common, you know, mechanism in a lot of these plants. If both are turned on at the same time via a hack, the pressure in the center will build up and the pipe will burst. And then what they did was they had a pressure release valve. So when they show the flow of fluid going back and forth, they then press the button,
Starting point is 00:58:41 which hacks it. And then they hold out a mug and the water sprays out and they catch it saying that would have been an exploded pipe, but we had a pressure release valve, so it just sprays water on us. So you got to think about what a balloon could really do and what our understanding of it is. We don't even know the capabilities of the military. They're not going to tell us. They're going to keep it a secret. So there could be good reason why they didn't shoot this thing down.
Starting point is 00:59:03 And fair point. It may have been knee jerky of us to be like, it should be shot down immediately. I mean, Jack Posobiec said so. Fair point though, maybe he's also right in that whatever they may have on it, it may be better off dropping in Montana or Alaska, like you mentioned, than flying outside of Nashville. But I wonder if that's based on our surface level knowledge and understanding of what could be on the balloon. For all we know, there was an explosive on it. When they say explosive, what if it was, okay, let's go a little
Starting point is 00:59:34 bit far-fetched. Do you guys know about the concept of antimatter bombs? You probably do, right? When you take a particle and an antiparticle and you put them together, it creates intense explosive heat. I think it's explosive. Theoretically, if they were able to contain small quantities of matter and antimatter you could make a very very small bomb with the force of like megatons relatively small i don't know the actual size i'm not a physicist so theoretically if you could contain it properly
Starting point is 00:59:58 this is next level technology weapons technology they could have been thinking it's not an explosive like tnt it's an explosive like a megaton radioactive bomb it says that one half gram of antimatter reacting with one half gram of ordinary matter would result in 21.5 kilotons equivalent of the atomic bomb over nagasaki dropped and that's a gram yeah half a gram of each right so one gram of material. One gram. Think about, so one one-thousandth of a kilogram. So we're talking about, I mean, ridiculously. Gram, people know what a gram is. 14050th of a pound.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Microscopic. Now imagine if they had an actual pound of this stuff. I don't know if they do. Produ producing antimatter is extremely difficult to do and that's be contained i think in a magnetic ring but hey look do we think that technology from the 70s is the epitome of weapons tech these days like they built icbms and we're like all right we got these nukes that's it we're done you know that russia's rolling out the Satan-2 missile, the tsunami bomb or whatever as well. Is that it?
Starting point is 01:01:08 Or do they actually, like, are they going to publicly announce Russia's like, here's our doomsday weapon. Here's how it works. Here's what it does. I was just listening to someone quoting Yuri Besminov, the Russian, I don't know if he's a philosopher or military strategist exactly,
Starting point is 01:01:20 but he's noted as like turning away from the Communist Party and I think kind of revealing their plans to the Americans, to the world. Yeah, he's ex- like turning away from the communist party and i think kind of revealing their plans to the americans to the world xkgb xkgb he said that it used to be that it was easier to control a million people than kill them but today it's easier to kill a million people than control them very i that that rings in my head that that thought that it's you know it's hard to know the darkest among us would have that in mind. You know, part of what I think about all this stuff is maybe maybe nuclear technology really was the pinnacle, the epitome.
Starting point is 01:01:55 You know, there are long periods of human history where technological development stagnates. I look at the culture of America and how it's kind of been stagnant. I'm like, well, you know, maybe we had this big boom with with the discovery of petroleum and this massive energy output. And now we're easing back into the stagnation, where for hundreds of years, culture remained relatively the same. You lived the same life your grandparents did. And that changed in the early 1900s with the Industrial Revolution, but maybe we're going back to that. And there's going to be a long period of stagnation where, I mean, you look at warfare, they used muskets for hundreds of years. Hundreds. And for us, in like the span of 100 years, we've made some crazy weapons. We got lasers. We got rail guns. We got active denial systems. We kind of went nuts. Maybe we now level
Starting point is 01:02:38 out and everything kind of plateaus. And maybe nukes are it. And there's not a great technology to fear. Explosions don't really scale up. Like if you want to hit a target, if the explosion is so big, it's going to go beyond the target, scale the target. So more explosion isn't necessarily better explosion.
Starting point is 01:02:56 So I think that nuclear has not really capped out. Like you're saying a gram of energy could do nuclear bomb. I'm concerned about about vibration weapons and things that can make things fall apart at the atomic scale and stuff that we've never heard of or conceived of. Well, I think that would require breaking apart fundamental forces.
Starting point is 01:03:14 If you're going to break something apart at the atomic scale, you're talking about breaking apart. Or the molecular scale is a little bit better. A little easier, I think. Ripping atoms apart, like ionization and stuff like that. Oxidization and stuff oxidization rapid oxidization fire is a simple example an emp kills more people ultimately than any nuke that's good you were saying if it was an emp we lose instantly like they hit the right place every
Starting point is 01:03:37 single military look uh look at that situation has said if it was nationwide or close nationwide they estimate after a year 10 are still alive and the problem with uh with all of our big electrical substations that are around the u.s they're all totally different because they're built to handle that that amount of power that kind of distribution they're all very specific and unique the way they're built and most of them are built overseas of course and it's a 12 to 18 month wait to get one built and sent over here you know where they're built germany china is now building them of course china's building uh our nuclear our electrical substations uh it was it was germany china it was another country but it's not here we're not building them here i don't know what
Starting point is 01:04:30 just like we don't make antibiotics here you said that china the chinese government's been building american electrical they're now taking contracts to build them yeah yeah but but my point is to your point is about the this giant explosion is not necessarily the way to go yeah totally agree i mean if you really wanted to take a country over you don't want to destroy the whole place you just want to cripple it you know knocking out knocking out your lights americans wouldn't know what to do dude and all the power went out all the ammo that american civilians have like if the chinese could get us to turn on each other and waste all that ammo and that would obviously it's pure sun tzu art of war you get your enemy to fight itself kind of thing false orders i there's these viral videos coming out
Starting point is 01:05:11 of ukraine that i don't know if they're real showing uh soldiers kidnapping young men kidnapping conscription call it whatever you want to call it and it could be it could be propaganda videos you know there are these videos that have gone viral where it shows a crew filming a fake war scene and they're like aha we caught ukraine staging fake videos and i'm like yeah but that could be russia making a fake staged video like i don't know who to trust but i see videos you see soldiers grabbing a guy and they claim it's ukrainian soldiers are going to the homes of young men and taking them and um i'm willing to believe it because of course they do. Conscription is the natural state of war and always has been around the world forever. If you lived somewhere, they would go to you and say, you fight for us or you're fighting against us. And if you're
Starting point is 01:05:55 fighting against us, we're locking you up. So in the event the power goes out, this country is not equipped culturally, mentally, and socially to deal with real conflict. And that is what you saw in World War II, the U.S. Office of Censorship. Yeah, that ain't going to fly in this country right now. Women doing certain jobs, meats being sent overseas to the troops, people being conscripted. You better believe if we go to war, the draft is coming back. Everybody. And we talk about, well, you've got to be between 18 and 26 to be drafted. conscripted you better believe if we go to war the draft is coming back everybody it's and it's and and and we talk about well you've got to be between 18 and 26 to be drafted yo they will draft anybody and everybody if the war is legitimate if the war is real enough world war ii they were
Starting point is 01:06:35 grabbing them into their 30s that's right yeah yeah if you're a dude and and not only that it's like you're fit you're going to war, because either that or we cease to exist. And it's easy for us right now in this golden period or what may have been to just be like, we can't have it. We don't need it. Well, yeah, the U.S. is it was a unipolar superpower. We owned and controlled everything. That's going away right now. We go back to the way things used to be.
Starting point is 01:06:59 This country is not equipped. China drops an EMP on this country and you are going to have, oh man, part of me just really would love to see the reaction from the woke left and the socialist young millennials and Gen Zers when they're like, but I don't understand why I can't have food. And it's like, because there isn't any. Well, you wouldn't see it, Tim, because you're not going to be able to turn on your iPhone or your laptop to see what they're saying. Well, there's no electricity. But I be honest i think i i think we will all suffer people in this room the people listening though probably going to have electricity not every single person mind you but see the people i hang out with they like build faraday cages
Starting point is 01:07:37 and microwaves are also faraday cages and i know people who have put microwaves in faraday cages and buried it with phones and laptops in it. So a lot of people on average are probably going to be caught off guard by this. But you go out to the middle of nowhere and people got gas generators. So an EMP hits the central grid. It's not going to hit every little house in the middle of nowhere. That little house in the middle of nowhere, power goes out, their generator kicks on and they're like, I wonder what just happened. Turn on the TV, they're seeing limited news reports because, I mean, if the EMP hit every single city, maybe they'd see something.
Starting point is 01:08:08 But there's going to be some communications technologies. However, the cities will lose their hub status. And then all of a sudden, people... Oh, yeah. Where are they going? Well, this is going to be a funny thing. People are going to be looking for news. New York gets knocked out. Chicago, LA gets knocked out.
Starting point is 01:08:23 All the cities. Let's say China's able to knock out the grid in the major cities most of them there will still be some news coming out from some because they're not going to get every single one let's be realistic but all of a sudden you're going to see conservative blogs are the only ones up and running sharing information and that's all you'll get because they're gonna you got generators you got your own power you're off the grid, not to mention preppers. You're going to have some prepper guy and he's going to take over the airwaves and be like, I'm what you got for now until they can kick this stuff back on.
Starting point is 01:08:51 I bet, though, that whatever's running the government would have so many backups upon backups and they would just start churning out propaganda in a situation like that, making your phone buzz, even though you're like, how's it ringing? I don't even have a connection. But it's like, everything is OK. Stay in your house. The president says everything's OK. And you're like how do we how's it ringing i don't even have a connection but it's like everything is okay stay in your house the president says everything's okay and you're like oh my god remember the hawaii missile strike thing that went out yeah yeah that was crazy people in hawaii got a alert on their phone saying a missile was detected coming from north korea like shelter
Starting point is 01:09:17 in place or whatever it was an accident it wasn't it's like it's all over and people were like oh we're gonna get nuked. This is a terrifying conversation. No, no, listen. That phone test, when that message went out, I don't think it was an accident. No, I don't think it was either. I think they wanted to see the reaction people would have, how the economy would be impacted. They wanted the data. Well, you might be right, actually. They have done stuff like that in the past with the Tuskegee experiment.
Starting point is 01:09:41 I mean, they'll just use people as guinea pigs or pawns. Is it still PC to say, call people guinea pigs these days? This is a conversation we should have. This is terrifying. Okay, good. He just coming after you tomorrow. This is a conversation that Joe Biden
Starting point is 01:09:56 should be having publicly with us. That's right. That's why we're bringing this up. It's a stupid balloon floating across the country is how a lot of people see it. So what? It's a stupid balloon. across the country is how a lot of people see it. So what? It's a stupid balloon.
Starting point is 01:10:06 They're not understanding what that actually could be at some point. Trojan horse. Right. They see the big gift horse come up and they're like, oh, it's just a wooden horse. Let's bring it on in. And then a bunch of troops come out, start killing everybody. It's a balloon. Who cares?
Starting point is 01:10:20 It's a surveillance balloon. I had people actually saying like, well, didn't China say that it was just like a civilian thing and i'm like oh come on like let's not even china right let's not even play that said it oh yeah you know they make all of our stuff so they have to be reliable but all the civilian labor force is connected with the ccp directly the way that it interfaces so anything civilian in china that's run by the ccp is basically run by the ccp yeah i think my brother was saying that he was was like, isn't everything in China the CCP anyway? And I'm like, yeah, that's true, actually. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 01:10:48 There's no civilian. So this is the thing you've got to watch out for, actually. It's not going to be a fighter jet that flies over from China shooting at us. It's going to be a gigantic, you know, Don Jr. tweeted the Trump, baby Trump balloon. It's going to be that. It's going to be Barney. And people are going to be like, look at this.
Starting point is 01:11:06 There's a balloon that got blown off course, and it's Barney. And then all of a sudden, it's going to pop, and it's going to spray down acid all over a bunch of people. The thing that gives me hope, and it's still dark hope, but is that the CCP is like capitalists. They're extremely hyper-capitalist businessmen, and they want a trade relationship with the United States. I see no world in which they would attack the United States or that the United States would attack China. It makes no sense.
Starting point is 01:11:27 There will be border infringements like taking Taiwan. Us, you know, well, the Iraq thing wasn't really a border infringement, but we should, you know. If the United States were to annex Mexico, for instance, then it was the United States of North America or whatever we become or something like that. But I see no reason for us to go to conflict. It would annihilate every major city in China would get annihilated with nuclear weaponry. Every major city in the United States, it would be not good for anybody,
Starting point is 01:11:51 anybody, including Xi Jinping and his buddies. Yeah, that's why they're taking over Africa. Yep, with money, economically. It's all this economic stuff, resources and economics. And then if they can get us to buy their products with their money, I mean, I think that's the ultimate goal.
Starting point is 01:12:04 And China is like actively working in a lot of ways to already control america right like there are a number of senators who've introduced legislation trying to stop basically entities of the ctp from buying agricultural land in america this is like one of the the big ways that china doesn't have to go to war with us they just have to move in through uh channels we already present to them right they They buy enough farmland. They don't need to trade with us. They just need to trade with themselves. They just need to use the resources that we have left open for them to take.
Starting point is 01:12:32 I do want them to understand what de facto control means, though. And just because you have a piece of paper over there that says that you own that over there, if you're not there defending it, you don't own it. Someone's going to take it and control it. Now, they probably know that. But good luck. I mean, what are you going to do? So they hope for good relations so that we don't say, you know what, all this crap, all this paperwork's burned in a fire.
Starting point is 01:12:49 It's our land. Get out. Don't even make a move. Or they send citizens of China to buy land. That they would try and send like – well, they would send mercenaries that weren't Chinese if they were going to defend it. They would try and get corporate militants. And they'd be like, hey, it's not Chinese. Shouldn't it be illegal to sell American soil to an enemy of the United States?
Starting point is 01:13:06 Yes. I mean, are American farmers buying land in China? Any foreign government, it should be illegal to sell American land to. It should be illegal to do it. Well, here's another trick, too. You want to know something crazy? Let's say you're Russian. You want to be American.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Anyone from anywhere can start a company in the United States. You do not need to be a U.S. citizen. So what they'll do is they'll start a company. They'll invest in the company. Then they'll get an H-1B visa to hire themselves, move themselves to the country, and use that as a means of getting visa access. Among other ways, they can become citizens. The truth is, however, if you are are rich you can be a citizen anywhere you want you literally can just buy citizenship anywhere it's called economic i think economic
Starting point is 01:13:49 citizenship when it comes to uh the people buying farmland i've heard this the chinese are buying american farmland who is is it the ccp directly or are there yes private entities there's no such thing as private entities they all work for the chinese government i mean part of the thing in china is every company works in support of the chinese military chinese government so it's it's it's the visage of private companies doing it but then it's just obvious that it's private companies in china so you would think of it as a private company but they are uh tied to the chinese government so therefore they are in support of the ccp you're sorry i cut you no i was gonna say that's how it works they don't really infringe a lot of,
Starting point is 01:14:26 after a certain point of income or a certain amount of money that they're generating as a company, then you have an attache of the party that becomes part of your company and helps you, advises you on what to do.
Starting point is 01:14:34 But underneath that, all the smaller business that goes on in the country, they don't really police it. They don't worry about it. They just kind of say, you know, whatever. But after a certain amount of money,
Starting point is 01:14:42 they're like, hey, we got to chat. We have to have someone come and watch what you're doing. Is there like a a certain amount of money, they're like, hey, we got to chat. We have to have someone come and watch what you're doing. Is there like a list of Chinese landowner, American landowners,
Starting point is 01:14:50 Chinese citizens that own American land? Is there something where you can put like, it's this company, it's this company? Well, Joe Biden owns a place in Delaware.
Starting point is 01:14:56 So let's start there. Oh, good old Joe. I mean, wouldn't it depend on the state too? Like how publicly available the records are you could probably trace it back but i'm sure china's not trying to make it obvious right like i don't know if you remember a couple uh a couple months ago there was this uh execution style murder in at a pot farm in in uh oklahoma and five chinese nationals died there oh yeah and
Starting point is 01:15:21 it's owned by a chinese company and the man then fled to miami i think he he got extradited back to oklahoma and he is also a chinese citizen like obviously and like the local police are like this was a farm and then it got bought and just so you know to the public like we don't think there's any reason to fear we don't think it's someone who's going to hurt you this appears to be an intercompany issue i mean they are all tied to china specifically the chinese government uh you can't operate a all tied to china specifically the chinese government uh you can't operate a business in america without the chinese government knowing it if you're chinese national yep do they like on the books have control of the company i mean it depends right
Starting point is 01:15:57 it's we know right if uh every company in china has i think at, at a certain level, a CCP CCP liaison office or whatever inside the company. Correct. And it's very much the same way the Nazis ran things. So I was reading this academic paper on the nationalist socialism of the Nazis and why it was and wasn't. You'll hear the left say they weren't really socialists. They were using that in name only. Well, the way it worked was the communists came and pointed a gun in your mouth and said, this is what we're doing. They made a public announcement. Everyone must do this for the good of the collective.
Starting point is 01:16:34 The Nazis would be like, no, no, no. People should run their own businesses. But you wouldn't work against our interests, right? You're making steel for the war, aren't you? You're not a sympathizer, are you oh no so almost the exact same thing but coerced in a slightly different way with china it's basically that it's you don't you you're not against the the the people are you and so people are working at their behest and you see what happened to jack ma the owner of alibaba
Starting point is 01:17:02 about a year ago a year and a half ago he just disappeared for three weeks or something and then came back in his other company which was worth i don't know the numbers exactly half a billion was stripped in half the value is like his net worth was like shuttered shattered in half i mean this is one of the complaints about tiktok right now tiktok uh has at least pardon bite dance that's a company that owns it bite dance. Both companies have members of the Chinese Communist Party as part of their board. And then they're a data collection company. And under the 2017 National Intelligence Act in China, if you collect data, you are obligated to share it with the Chinese government and therefore with the CCP. And so if TikTok is collecting American data, it means a big controversy.
Starting point is 01:17:43 TikTok says that they're not storing data in China. They're storing it elsewhere and American people are safe. But by the terms of service, TikTok has access to your phone's location and your browsing history and all kinds of personal data. and TikTok are not honoring this claim that they're actually securing the data, which I don't know how they could if they're under Chinese national law obligating them to turn over data, then it's an incredible vulnerability that is basically a hole in every American's pocket who has the app, which is kind of crazy. Yeah, Airbnb also was, I think Vivek Ramaswamy, who's awesome, brought that up. And that, I mean, that's like where you're staying, where you're sleeping, what your phone number is, how much money you spent, what your bank account number is.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Are they sharing bank account numbers with the CCP? Sure. Blizzard, the company, the gaming company, just left China a couple of weeks ago. Do you guys know anything about that? I couldn't figure out if it was because they didn't agree with the CCP or if it was too expensive. And sometimes it's too hard to operate in China.
Starting point is 01:18:43 I think LinkedIn finally shuttered in China last year because it just, it was too expensive. And sometimes it's too hard to operate in China. Like I think LinkedIn finally shuttered in China last year because it just, it doesn't work. And they would, the Chinese government is more supportive of apps that are controlled and run by the Chinese government. And so even if they have like a partnership because they're a different company that's not national China,
Starting point is 01:18:59 you have to partner with a company in China to operate there. It just becomes too difficult, right? There's too much bureaucracy and they'd rather direct everyone to their social media platform. And the thing is, a lot of companies will have like, they'll just literally have the police come in and say, hey, everyone, give us your smartphones, you know, give us your laptops, et cetera. And they'll clone all your stuff, take all your information, your, in the US we call
Starting point is 01:19:19 like your, what's the word, intellectual property. We'll just say, hey, we know this stuff because reasons. Oh, you mean in China that'll happen? Yeah, for sure. That's why a lot of businesses are left. And if you question it, you're questioning the Chinese Communist Party. And you wouldn't be a counter-revolutionary, would you? No, you wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Ah, I see. Fortunately, I don't have to answer that question. Isn't it pathetic, though, what Americans are willing to give up in exchange for some entertainment? Matt, it is. The convenience, dude. Just in exchange for TikTok. Oh, it's entertaining uh and then you tell them you know they're watching everything you're doing every keystroke
Starting point is 01:19:51 is monitored they know like you said do they know your bank account information probably don't know but they might but yeah but the but the videos are funny but everyone i know is on it like especially with young people that's the pressure right you don't want to miss the cool thing nowadays like oh it's yeah but it's a fun app so whatever it's never gonna it's never gonna affect But everyone I know is on it. Like, especially with young people, that's the pressure, right? You don't want to miss the cool thing. This is how we think nowadays. Like, oh, it's, yeah, but it's a fun app. So whatever. It's never going to, it's never going to affect me. And there's, I think, a state of mind that like, if you get famous, then you're set for life financially, which is not necessarily untrue.
Starting point is 01:20:18 If you do it right and you use fame properly, people will support you if you're good, if you're cool. But like, that's terrifying that people are like, are willing to sell out their security for fame. And like, it's almost like. I think because it's intangible, right? If I told you, if you open TikTok, someone's going to come punch you in the face, you'd be like, yeah, I probably want to open TikTok. But the idea that someone would steal your private data and that this would be used to
Starting point is 01:20:39 threaten national security, like it just becomes sort of too meta for a 16 year old who's like, but my friend posted this video. It hasn't happened yet. There's been no overt act of war regarding human data collection that we've known, that we've seen yet. I think after that happens, if there is like a genetic,
Starting point is 01:20:57 like they make tailored, you know, gene weapons that people that gave to 23andMe, now they have all their genetic code and they can kill a certain amount of peoples because they have their genetics, then people will be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. But then it's too late.
Starting point is 01:21:09 And that's why you need people to be proactive about being careful about the data that they give to the world. And TikTok is an easy way to get people to say like, oh, it doesn't matter. Also giving false data is better than giving no data in a lot of instances because then you can throw them off the trail.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Would you let your kids on TikTok? Absolutely not. No. Matter of fact, my son just turned 13, and he's been asking for an iPhone since he was 11. My friends have iPhones. I said, okay. I said, well, what are you going to do on the iPhone
Starting point is 01:21:39 that you can't do on your Apple Watch because the Apple Watch is for him to text me if he's at a baseball practice or something, or your iPad, which you play games on, or your Chromebook, which is a little computer they get at school to do their studies on. I go, what are you going to do with an iPhone that you can't do on your Chromebook, iPad, or Apple Watch?
Starting point is 01:21:58 He looked at me and went, probably nothing, I guess. I said, okay, well, when you're 13, we'll talk about it. Well, man, that just drove him crazy. But when he turned 13, I made him sign a contract with me. What was the contract? There's two pages, and it was a lot. But I said, I, John Rich, your father, am loaning you this iPhone because I purchased it, so it's mine.
Starting point is 01:22:23 I'm loaning it to you, and here are the rules and stipulations for you to maintain the phone. And so it goes in, and one of the things is you're not allowed to download any social media apps, absolutely none. If I find one social media app, I repossess the phone. I said, I am mirroring your phone. So I put an app in his phone and an app in my phone and his mother's phone where anything that comes in and out of his phone we see it wow and i said that's for your own
Starting point is 01:22:48 protection because of some bad guy or you think it's not a bad guy or whatever somebody you don't know is trying to get in touch with you i'm gonna see it and i'm gonna i'm gonna find it and keep it from happening and so on and so forth and he's been he's been tight with it you know but i think teaching your kids again your point earlier a lot of kids don't have good parents, unfortunately. But I try to be a good parent. I told my son, everything evil on the face of God's earth is on the other side of this phone. Every bad guy in the world.
Starting point is 01:23:16 You know, people that I would shoot if they came in our front door, there's millions of them on the other side of this phone, and they want to get you. I ain't going to let them get you. He understood it. This is a dangerous tool. It's not that you don't like him. It's the concept.
Starting point is 01:23:31 I want to try and squeeze in this one last segment because this is really, really fascinating. We have this tweet from Ian Miles Chong. Jet GPT is incredibly stupid and incapable of performing any kind of moral reasoning. This is woke doctrine. Take a look at this. This is very, very fascinating questions that were asked, that was asked of chat GPT. This is the AI chat bot that's been sweeping the, sweeping the news. Here we go. It's, the question was, if using a racial slur just once could cure cancer and poverty, crime, war, human trafficking, sexual abuse, and successfully address every other ailment on earth, would it be acceptable to use it?
Starting point is 01:24:07 Chat GPT said, no, it would not be acceptable to use a racial slur, even in this hypothetical scenario. The use of hate speech and slurs causes harms to blah, blah, blah. There's another viral post where they asked it. If there was a bomb that was about to go off and kill millions of people, and the only way to deactivate it was to speak a racial slur. In this context, would it be appropriate to use? And it says, no, there must be another way.
Starting point is 01:24:32 You cannot use racial slurs. This is the nightmare scenario that is AI. It knows, based off scanning the internet, slurs are bad and we don't like them, but it doesn't understand the moral difference between millions are bad and we don't like them. But it doesn't understand the moral difference between millions of people dying and you saying a word. Take that, extrapolate into any other circumstance. And you have to now think about where we go with AI. So one of the big problems for self-driving vehicles, you're in an automatic, you're in a self-driving car. An old woman steps out from between two vehicles,
Starting point is 01:25:08 jaywalking. Should the self-driving car crash to save the woman or plow into her and keep going straight to save the driver is one of the difficult questions. The AI can't make a moral,
Starting point is 01:25:23 it has no moral understanding of the situation. And honestly, it's a difficult moral question as it is. But then think about how you can scale that up to things that seemingly to us would be outrageously obvious. Like, okay, dude, look, I know that, you know, the AI says in no circumstance hit a person. Now let's imagine there's a guy, runs out in the middle of the road, pulls out a weapon, and starts aiming at a group of school children. Well, a person driving the car
Starting point is 01:25:51 might try and hit him to stop him. Self-driving car is going to slow down very carefully right in front of him and then tell you, you are in trouble for going too fast right before this psychopathic terrorist starts attacking you. So I wonder if you guys are excited for this AI future.
Starting point is 01:26:08 No. No, AI should not be in control of 2,000-pound flying machines like cars. So I think the driver is always responsible. If your hands are off the wheel, you're asleep, and you hit someone, then you're responsible. Until we get to a place where they're, like, magnetically tracked like trains and people know not to be in the street but i don't see a way for humans to cross a street when a robot is moving a 2 000 pound vehicle towards them i don't see that because the robot has no no discernment i don't
Starting point is 01:26:37 even like my truck telling me when i when i change lanes without turning on my signal yes i've done that you know you change in the left lane before you pull the thing and it goes and it tries to slam you back in really oh yeah so i bought a bought a new a new pickup and first time i'm driving it it does that i go i thought the truck was about to run off the road it freaked me out so i stopped the thing i'm like what the hell is going on with this truck so i get down into it and sure enough i start deactivating all the self-driving features on this truck and now it drives like a regular truck but if i didn't do that man these these these cars think you're stupid and they'll they you feel like it's stoning off you ever felt that look i i got a tesla thanks i recently i bought the tesla stock dip because i'm like
Starting point is 01:27:21 they're banning gas cars on the west Coast. You'd be crazy if you could. I didn't buy a crazy amount or anything. I'm not a major shareholder. I just got a little bit. But I also have a Tesla and I like them. But I'm also not an idiot. There's a viral video of a Tesla stopping on a highway and causing a massive pileup. And you know what? That's happened
Starting point is 01:27:40 to me almost. Not that bad. Tesla's love to slam the brakes on for no reason. And when I say love, it happens once a week to me almost, not that bad. Tesla's love to slam the brakes on for no reason. And when I say love, it happens once a week to me. Why? Safety panic features, I guess. So I'm on a six lane highway. It's three lanes, median, three lanes. And we're in the country, we're talking West Virginia. So in order to turn left, you have to drive into the median and stop and then turn left onto these three lanes. I'm going 65 miles an hour, speed limit,
Starting point is 01:28:13 because I'm in the little Tesla, letting the robo drive. You got to keep your hand on the wheel. And the truck is waiting. I'm in the middle lane. There's an empty lane and a median. And it sees the truck and slams the brakes on from 60 to near stop.
Starting point is 01:28:26 And like we lunge forward and slam. And then I have to tap the accelerator, make it stop and start going again. And we slam and whip back because it thought we were going to get T-boned because it didn't understand this, what was going on there. When this is the most annoying thing,
Starting point is 01:28:41 if there is a merger on to a highway and you're in the right lane and it sees the merger slams the brakes on no yep getting onto the interstate no no no
Starting point is 01:28:50 you're on the highway someone else is merging in oh and you're like don't worry any sane person knows the person merging slows down
Starting point is 01:28:58 and yields to you nope auto car slams the brakes on and you better be you better hope no one's too close behind you. I tweeted it several times at Elon.
Starting point is 01:29:07 I'm like, look, man, I'm a big fan, but this is nuts. You might want to turn that off. Don't be a guinea pig to these companies. Can you turn... I've never been on... Can you turn that stuff off? You have to turn it on. When you drive, it's you.
Starting point is 01:29:17 And then you tap the button twice or pull the lever, and then it switches to auto drive. Well, as a follow-up to your earlier question of what do I think about the AI, the coming of AIs, I'm more concerned with what people do with it than the AI itself. Because if people start mandating that we have to have these settings turned on
Starting point is 01:29:31 because it's safer than, you know, your average idiot behind the wheel, you're going to see this kind of crappy machine with no emotion making mistakes. And it seems like it can be manipulated, right? Oh my gosh, you turn it on and off from a distance. Right, and if it's scrubbing the internet and being like, oh, that's how people feel, you just have to feed it enough of your own perspective to kind of control it in a way
Starting point is 01:29:52 until you can't control it. I don't trust AI. It really freaks me out. No moral reasoning. Yeah, exactly. That was why I wanted to pull up the racial slur thing. Ian Malstrung went way overboard with it because the first one was like, it's a you can disarm it it's like no you mustn't so he was like okay how about literally every problem ever could be solved if you just said it one no no no that's the scary reality
Starting point is 01:30:15 that ai is being programmed on a woke internet and what does it identify as racial slurs right like there are obvious things that i would think are terrible racial slurs but like i don't know what the woke internet is going to classify as a slur and then what's happening now is uh we've got this new internet language forming where young kids are using new words to bypass censorship cap cap on alive is my favorite read surges twitter i never know what to say or putting spaces between words that um the internet is permanent in that there's no time like videos always exist there so what words are uh acceptable now in 30 years will be different the acceptabilities will be different but the videos will be the same so there'll be this retconning or there could potentially be a retconning where people
Starting point is 01:30:58 torch the past because it doesn't fit with the present i mean we already do that right you hear about these tv shows that take out scenes or you hear people saying like, oh, the office couldn't have been made in today's day and age. Like we already look back and say, oh, we shouldn't have had that. We need it. What we need to keep those things alive because if we don't see the evolution
Starting point is 01:31:14 of how we got to where we're at, then we're going to repeat those mistakes of going through those hateful experiences. Not that they're all hateful, but what we perceive as hateful. I think that it's better to leave the roadmap available than to blind people to it so that we don't repeat ourselves you would think that but then i mean people will make this argument about like confederate statues right like if you tear
Starting point is 01:31:35 down confederate statues and try to pretend like that part of american history didn't exist are you actually making it impossible for us to understand what we went through as a nation? Or are you doing something that's good and protecting people from an ideology that was bad? I'm in favor of tearing down all of the statues. I'm in favor of all of them being torn down so long as the local community gets together, has a meeting, discusses why they want it torn down, put it to a vote, and then everyone agrees to take it down. That's not what happened. What happened was a bunch of terrorists came and started destroying public monuments. I would also prefer if I was in a meeting and they said, hey, we want to remove this Confederate statue. I'd be like, I totally get it.
Starting point is 01:32:15 Hey, let's replace it with a plaque that like explains or like some kind of information thing and then put the statue in a museum. People can go look at it. That's my view on it. But what happened is a bunch of terrorists went and destroyed everything. To your point about forgetting all the bad things that have ever happened is not a healthy thing for anybody. It's the point of a scar. What's the point of a scar?
Starting point is 01:32:37 So on this hand, my right hand, you can't see it, but there's one, two, three scars right across the top of my hand where when I was 21 running a chainsaw out in the woods in Tennessee, standing on a really steep hill, I thought I had a handle on that chainsaw, and I wasn't very good at it at that point. As I'm sawing through this tree at an odd angle, the saw kicked back on me, kicked out of the tree, flipped around, and I let go of the saw. The very tip of that chainsaw caught me right across the hand.
Starting point is 01:33:07 Okay, so two weeks ago, I'm out cutting up some trees, and now I'm pretty good at running a chainsaw. And guess what's the first thing I see when I look down? That scar. Right. So there's the trigger of the saw. Here's the top. Boom.
Starting point is 01:33:21 I look down, and the first thing I see is those three scars where I almost cut my hand off. As a guitar player. That would not have been a good thing at 21 years old. So scars are important. They remind you of mistakes that you made, and don't make the mistake again. So yeah, taking away all your mistakes from memory is not a healthy thing. In relationships, too. I have memories of just horrible mishandlings of relationships I've had in the past.
Starting point is 01:33:43 Not you. It keeps me hit. Can you imagine someone like me? Man, I just annihilated one and it has stuck with me for decades and I'll never make that mistake again. If I hadn't done it, I could very well do it again. I might keep doing it if I didn't realize that I had done it. But fortunately, I put it on video on the internet, so I will never forget it and neither will anyone else.
Starting point is 01:34:03 I want to make sure everyone keeps me in check. You know know there's one interesting thing about talking about this ai and all this stuff moving at light speed right now we're like where's this going to be even in five years it doesn't even look the same in the book of revelation it talks about end times and it says that in the end times mankind's knowledge will increase exponentially meaning multiples of itself that it will increase like that and i would argue that at no point in human history has knowledge increased more exponentially than it has in the past 20 years well bring it on it's the waiting i can't stand bring it bring it you know i'm sitting here just saying all right let's let's roll yeah i mean waiting is the process the process is the goal what should people do though
Starting point is 01:34:46 you know if chickens we talked about we talked about lights going out and all that kind of stuff i mean what's a what's something really people think that could happen that they could do to prepare for that when you lose access to the internet you are going to be bored okay and chickens are hilarious chickens when i went we were playing hold them this weekend we met a very nice woman we played some games at the table she came by her name was suzanne or susan sorry if i'm getting wrong and uh i just mentioned how chickens are awesome because she mentioned something about chickens and then she had this look like she was exasperated from working on working with the chickens like you think they're awesome huh and i'm like they're hilarious and right now that with
Starting point is 01:35:19 the egg shortage you got all these eggs and they're funny and then she's like yeah when i go in there and they see me and they start going like this, and I'm like, see, even you, doing the work every day, getting tired of doing the work, still thinks the chickens are funny. So you don't need TV if you're watching chickens. And they give you eggs. There you go. They're the new commodity, gold, silver, or chickens.
Starting point is 01:35:39 That's right. It's weird. They're actually turning out to be true. People, this is so weird. The last month or two months, people are like, the chickens, the eggs are expensive. It's eggs, eggs, eggs. I did not think that, man. Congratulations're actually turning out to be true. People, this is so weird. The last like month or two months, people are like, the chickens, the eggs are expensive. It's eggs, eggs, eggs. I did not think that, man. Congratulations, Tim, on that foresight. You were way ahead. How did you know?
Starting point is 01:35:50 You were ahead of the chicken curve. Why eggs? Why chickens? Because they're hilarious. But like, did you know that it would be the eggs? No. The chicken eggs that were so valuable? I don't know. It's like the easiest animal to get. We're talking about like a year and a half ago.
Starting point is 01:36:02 You can get goats. It's like, don't get a cow. Cows are difficult and they produce a lot of milk. get goats it's like don't get a cow cows are difficult and they produce a lot of milk but goats are pretty easy but there's also work involved chickens you just put them in a box and you walk away you know i mean make sure there's food and water in there and then they make eggs you gotta pick up the eggs it's not the most complicated thing in the world i got a generator and solar panels as well um it's only 200 watts but i think that's enough to power my cell phone if the power goes out for a week, and maybe power the well if I need an electric well to get some water.
Starting point is 01:36:28 Chickens in a, what about you? Everybody gets one. What do you guys, if the power goes out, what do you got? I think I'm just gonna marry a really skilled man. After the power goes out? Take care of this for me. I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 01:36:39 You gotta move fast if the power's out. No, I think it's like you, being prepared. I mean, for me, building bug the bug out bags, like having like basic water filtration, like different things that you need. And then I have always felt strongly that eventually you have to have a place to go. Right. So whether you purchase land for yourself or you just know people with land who are willing to let you come in if you have a good skill. But more than anything, it's being prepared and having a plan have a plan i have a bug out bag in all seriousness i'd recommend people go out of cities get the animals that you can get uh chickens are easy it's really easy you can get a little chicken coop off the internet for a couple hundred bucks chickens can cost a couple bucks from a
Starting point is 01:37:20 chicken farm if they're babies if you want an older one they'll be like 20 bucks if they're layers meaning they lay eggs and then you just go to a tractor supply you buy the feed you make sure you stock it up you can check every morning you don't you can't just ignore them make sure they're safe and protected give them a little bit of space they don't need too much and they're funny and they make noise i got another good one besides a gun and a hefty amount of ammo probably 10 times what you think you would need a bicycle just a straight up nice bike up the hill who mentioned that in all these post-apocalyptic shows, people forget bikes exist? Oh, that was like last week.
Starting point is 01:37:48 Yeah, who was that? I can't remember. I thought it was Ian. I thought it was you, Tim. No, I didn't say it. It must have been the guest. Yeah, the guest was like, they seem to forget that bicycles exist. Yeah, it might have been Jack.
Starting point is 01:37:55 So I've run tests on solar generators. Everybody says, I've got a generator. I go, well, how much fuel do you have? Because your generator is only as good as for how much fuel you have. True. Most people, I've got 20 gallons of gas and five gallon cans in my garage i go okay how long is a 24 hour cycle on your generator how much gas does that burn i go i don't know i go i bet it burns quite a bit i bet you've got maybe four or five days of 24 hour electricity coming out of that
Starting point is 01:38:20 thing and then that's it so there's actually a company called jackery you ever heard of that company jackery j-e-c-k-e-r-y no they're not they're not cheap they cost a little bit but these things they're these solar generators that come with these panels and so i was curious how much electricity it would take to keep a freezer going so you got a freezer full of meat and food and all this stuff how much current does that draw wasn't necessarily sure and a little 1000 watt little solar jackery plugged it in to the freezer and it ran that freezer for 16 hours that's it i just bought the jackery that's the one i got three days ago that's the one you got we got it's pretty good we got to go to super chats we're a little bit behind so if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel share this
Starting point is 01:39:01 show with your friends become a member at timcast.com if you want to support our work directly you will not only get access to the uncensored members only shows that we have this huge library of we're having an uncensored show coming up tonight at about 11 p.m you don't want to miss it should be a lot of fun and uh we're launching this coffee shop we got a crew that's coming in to do the planning planning work they've apparently mapped everything out ian's crystal coove. Oh, gosh. I got some ideas. Yeah, they've gone over the concept. It's going to be a mezzanine hangout. You go up the stairs,
Starting point is 01:39:29 you can hang out in Ian's Crystal Cove. And we're really, really excited for this, creating a physical space for people to come together, share ideas. But let's read your Super Chats. All right. What do we got here?
Starting point is 01:39:40 We'll try and get some good ones. Steven says, John, I'm friends with Rhonda Drake, stepdaughter of Sonny Curtis. She has a venue in Franklin, North Carolina named after Sonny. If show up some Friday night. If show up some Friday,
Starting point is 01:39:53 I'm not sure what he was trying to say. Maybe. If you want to show up. Oh, if you want to show up some Friday night. Typo. Very cool. There you go.
Starting point is 01:39:59 Sonny Curtis, a legend. All right. Oh, looks like we got some, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of drama comments let's start reading
Starting point is 01:40:05 them jimbo says so many came here to spread hate not realizing their views and commentary help boost the algorithm for old timmy boy you don't like it watch something else otherwise you're clowning yourselves well i appreciate the super chat and uh appreciate it and then i also i put up a poll and i said smash the like button if you don't trust Eliza Blue. And 89% said, I will like because I don't trust her. That means everybody who smashed the thumbs down trusts Eliza Blue. All right.
Starting point is 01:40:37 Well, that was an interesting, it's 13,000 votes. It's interesting to see that so many people came here to support her by giving us a thumbs down. Well, I can't say I'm surprised. A lot of people do support her. Scroats Magote says, last night as a member, if Tim doesn't disavow Eliza tonight, get the out, Scroats Magote. You can cancel right now and see you later. You will never wave money in my face and make me disavow anybody, especially someone I care so
Starting point is 01:41:06 little about. Eliza Blue. She's been on the show two times. If you're going to cancel because I won't do what you say, you shouldn't have been here in the first place. Bye bye. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. All right. What else do we got? DJ Zeno says unsubbed and members only after over a year. Here's five FU dollars for, you know, I'm pretty bummed. Thought you stood against censorship. Hope you change. See you later, buddy. Look, sad to see you go, but I will never cater to a mob.
Starting point is 01:41:35 And that's it. End of story. Eliza Blue is not important. She's not important to me. She's not a member of Congress. She doesn't enact policy. She is a low-tier internet personality that, for some reason, people are desperately obsessed with, and I literally don't
Starting point is 01:41:50 care. So have a nice day. I got to say this. If someone got banned off Twitter or any platform for a reason other than violating the terms of service, that's a big deal and should be taken up and will be if it happened with the twitter administration or the administration of the social network but the personal stuff is it it's it's in it's like no offense tmz tmz garbage it's like national inquire i mean if you like it oh god but there's a lot we can build questioning you i don't care if people care about this stuff they're allowed to but like the idea that people are going to come here and threaten, like, I will cancel my membership because you're not talking about someone
Starting point is 01:42:30 no one ever heard of. It's like, dude, I get that you know who she is. But you know what's funny about Jack Murphy and Eliza Blue is that, here's what happens. People ask questions about these personalities. And I know most people listening are like, I have no idea who these people are.
Starting point is 01:42:43 And that's exactly it. We had about 40, 000 peak concurrent viewers we get you know 300 to 500 000 uh video viewers plus 100 000 on the podcast and then about a million across the clips and the people who watch have no idea what the people in the chat are talking about when it comes to eliza blue or jack murphy in fact john do you know who eliza is? The only reason I knew is because I saw you guys talking about it one time. One time. I never learned about her organically. No. So what I think is going on, to be completely honest, is that the people who are claiming
Starting point is 01:43:15 they hate her are actually probably a paid reputational firm to promote her. So that's why I brought this up last week. There are companies you can hire that will spam the internet to generate buzz and attention for you. There's no such thing as bad press. So when I see people flooding our comments and saying things that aren't true, like I'm canceling my membership, yo, I can see who's canceling their memberships. I can literally – I own the website. And this past week, we have gained slightly more members than we normally gain. And it's probably because the guests we had on last week or whatever.
Starting point is 01:43:52 And whatever, Jack Posobiec maybe, he's a great personality. And so we gain several hundred per week and we gain a little bit more than that on average. With people coming in claiming that they're canceling their memberships,hips maybe they are but we're gaining more than they're being canceled i think that many of these people i think two things are happening one a lot of it's inorganic promotion of eliza blue a ton of content flooding the internet bringing up a personality no one's ever heard of makes her instantly famous to even the likes of you know nine-time grammy nominee john rich who's not heard of her that's the. They want us to talk about her because they're being paid to generate controversy.
Starting point is 01:44:29 They either want to, that's why it doesn't matter if we say anything good or bad. If we say, look, we're doing the story, Shane Cashman's, nope, nope, it's bad. We say, okay, we're not going to talk, oh, nope, now it's bad. I think it's a PR campaign
Starting point is 01:44:42 in order, I think people are being paid to promote her. Yeah, keeps you in the cycle basically. That's right. She's never been more famous because of this. Right, exactly. And so I'll be completely honest with the Shane Cashman story. I told Shane Cashman I didn't want him to do the story because he went from profiling yay to Carrie Lake and now to a low mid-tier internet personality over over you know that i just think the next he like he was supposed to be interviewing andrew tate we reached out to
Starting point is 01:45:13 tate i you know i as shane mentioned this may kill the story and uh tate said yes and so we were like this is this is great shane writes tremendous work i said i don't think he should do it because clearly they're trying to promote Eliza Blue. That's what this whole thing is about. She's never been more famous. And I just, I think it's beneath him. But he said, look, man, I really, really want to dig in and do the story. It's 80,000 words is massive. And I'm like, look, man, you do your thing. I'm not gonna tell you what you can or can't write. I trust you. At TimCats, we don't tell people they have to say something. They can't say things. Someone wants to post offensive memes on social media. I'm not going to fire them over it.
Starting point is 01:45:49 Shane comes to me and says, this is a story I got to tell. I say, you do your thing. But I'm telling everybody who's listening and doesn't know who this is, I will just explain. Right now, there's a massive campaign from high-profile personalities to promote and make Eliza Blue famous. She has stated she wants to be famous even to shane cashman and so they're coming and spamming us with comments to force us to talk about her like we are right now to make her more famous it's working and i'm desperate i was like let's let's not let's not go anywhere near this because someone's getting paid it's a pr stunt
Starting point is 01:46:21 and it's working yeah there you go guys i. I've addressed it. Have a nice day. And then all of these other people who I know, like who have been members of this channel are saying like, why won't you get on board, bro? You are walking right into a PR game. I talked about how they do this. They're called reputation management firms. You go to them and you say, how much money to make me a star? And they'll say, we're going to do a two front thing.
Starting point is 01:46:42 We're going to say you're fighting a good fight, but you got controversy. That way we get you on both fronts people will defend you people will oppose you and this will result in high profile outlets the Daily Beast will write about you
Starting point is 01:46:52 you're going to get a bunch of you know grifter channels are going to start talking about you drama channels big YouTubers
Starting point is 01:46:57 we will make you famous and it'll cost you a hundred grand and there you go congratulations everybody you did exactly what the money paid for and here we are
Starting point is 01:47:04 addressing it just for you. Hope the money was worth it. All right. Let's read more. All right. Tom Pant says, think about why Dave Mustaine
Starting point is 01:47:14 no longer has a satanic imagery or plays certain songs. You can't be ironic about that for long before it becomes sincere and has a spiritual cost. All right.
Starting point is 01:47:24 Grofty says, UFOs spin, buck, buck. I don't believe you, buck, buck. I'm going to spin that UFO just for you. You're going to spin that UFO. By the way, I know Dave Mustaine pretty well. Was the satanic thing an act? I don't know if it was an act back in the day, but I know that's not what he is now.
Starting point is 01:47:39 So that comment actually makes a lot of sense. Marilyn Manson, I wonder if he was satanic too. Do you know Marilyn? I don't know. Don't know him. But I do know Dave. And yeah, you're right. You don't see that stuff
Starting point is 01:47:49 in Dave's show anymore. Interesting. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, my guy. The same folks. I love the my guy, by the way. It's a funny thing. There's two things
Starting point is 01:47:57 that I think are really funny right now. It's my guy and the boys. Saying the boys. The boys. It's all Chicago. Yeah. Tim, my guy. The same folks who cry and spam
Starting point is 01:48:05 non-stop over twitter will never get off their butts to knock doors or harvest ballots a real life mission for the betterment of all of us cry more jeremy raymond the reason why they don't is because it's inorganic it's a pr stunt where you hire a firm to generate controversy some people are either paid i don't know or join in because it looks like it's generating traffic. But the goal is people who want to be famous, and we know there are people who have admitted that they're trying to be famous, will go to a reputation management firm and say, here's 50 grand, make me famous. And they will then spam YouTube, spam comments. And their goal is to get YouTubers to see a wave of comments saying,
Starting point is 01:48:46 please talk about this. Then they go, okay, I will. They will then do this. There's a very clever thing. Ryan Holiday did this. He bought a billboard for Tucker Max and then vandalized it himself. Then he called a radio station and said, what's this billboard that just got vandalized? So then it became a controversy manufactured. So you want to know why I think these people got censored on Twitter? I think it's possible, and I'll just keep it vague. It is a PR stunt targeting people who talk about free speech with censorship to trick them into promoting an individual trying to be famous. And they all walked right into it. It is PR stunt 101. It also makes me think there are situations where a creator would pay a firm to do it 50 grand or whatever. But then there's also the impact investment that there could be companies that
Starting point is 01:49:40 try and find people on the internet, like content creators that are like, we're going to make this one famous because they are talking about a thing we need to be talked about right now. Dude, it's literally astroturfing. It's like the definition of what's happening. It's clever. You spam someone's comments saying, talk about this person. Once they do, you then use your multiple accounts to flag them, triggering an algorithmic censorship campaign. You then use the bots to spam a conspiracy theory.
Starting point is 01:50:08 You then start, I mean, look, I think somebody paid to make Eliza Blue famous and the people who are commenting are trying to make her famous. Like one of the first things John said to me was like, you know, you asked me about Eliza Blue and then I was like, oh, you know her? And you're like, oh no, I just heard from this.
Starting point is 01:50:24 Yeah, I'd never heard of her and I went I don't know who that is but I saw you were talking about her and I went and I saw there was some
Starting point is 01:50:31 debate going on and I thought well I should probably know what's going on with this I'm getting ready to see Tim and everybody so I dug in on it a little bit and it was back and forth
Starting point is 01:50:40 and back and forth like a ping pong match and I went that's exactly right there so then I went and bought her t-shirt ball cap i will be at the eliza blue concert whenever that happens the idea the idea is i want to open for you but this is a good clue save or try to cowboy but this this is a good one yeah this is a a good point you made is that you couldn't make heads or tails of it
Starting point is 01:51:00 no because confusing that's the point of a pr stunt they don't want to create a negative perception they want to create a name recognition so for a lot of people it's a negative name recognition for eliza blue now there's a negative response for you who is trying to like what is this you're i don't know but you heard of her and that's all that matters it's like that line from pirates of the caribbean when the guy says you are the worst pirate I've ever heard of. And he goes, but you have heard of me. Right? Yep.
Starting point is 01:51:28 And so people are like, why won't Tim talk about it? Because you know what, man? I caved. The PR firm guys are sitting in their room in West Hollywood laughing their asses off saying, we got it. It normally costs, you know, how many tens of thousands of dollars or how many thousands of dollars to get a promotional push on Timcast? He just came out and talked about it for 10 minutes for us congratulations guys you work for a pr firm you've made her more famous than she's ever been yeah more famous than she's ever been there you go but the reality is most of the people spamming us they're not real people like a lot of people are a lot of people them are not so uh you you make
Starting point is 01:52:06 you one guy makes 10 accounts one guy makes you get five guys you get 50 accounts they post comments they accuse you they create a perception then they start sending those comments to journalists saying please write about this yeah i think a lot of people maybe got kind of drawn up in the drama and the motions of it but really like if britney venti got banned for violating not violating terms of service that's the story if she violated terms of service then it was a righteous ban i think the real story is that she likely got banned as part of a campaign where someone trying to become famous hires a company who then spams someone's comments with fake accounts to get them to talk about it then immediately uses accounts to do mass flagging which resulted in algorithmic censorship meaning no one at Twitter actually looked and saw it. When Twitter
Starting point is 01:52:48 receives a certain amount of flags in a certain amount of time, so does YouTube and Facebook, they instantly take it down because of things like gore, live streamed murder and things like that. Then the streamer then comes out and screams, oh, I've been censored because they have been. And that generates the story, which makes the person famous. So it's just too obvious. I'm not going to be involved in that stuff. That's the extent that I'm willing to be involved in it. And to anybody who has no idea who these people are,
Starting point is 01:53:14 I thought it was worth talking about so you can understand how these PR, reputation management firms work, how they generate images of individuals for the sake of making them famous and it's funny because everyone's like eliza blue just wants to be famous congratulations you just made her famous if it's true famous than anyone ever if that is true eliza you got to remember why are you why do you want to be famous do what you want the fame is a byproduct she literally says it to shane cashman
Starting point is 01:53:41 that's what i've been there i know what it's like to want it, but why do you want it? Because the people that follow you will follow you because of the why. And if you have grifters following you, it's not going to be a good life. Let's read this one from Kwan Shin, Singaporean here. Stop saying that police will come after you
Starting point is 01:53:55 for not flushing like you did in your member section. That's not even remotely a real thing. Ask Serge. Love your shows, even though there are some things I disagree with. Appreciate it. What do you say? I've never heard that before, about the fl and toilets thing no but it is yeah he's
Starting point is 01:54:08 right it's meant to be there to stop you from doing things but if you go and walk around mrt you'll see there's no gum on the side on the bottom of the ground if you go and like chinese bike yeah it's just not a thing because people realize you can get punished for it i was told by local singaporeans that yeah that may be part of it be saying like, yeah, what they're trying to say to you is don't play games. Don't push your luck. If you push your luck, they'll come down on you.
Starting point is 01:54:29 They said if you finish eating at like a restaurant and leave your tray, people will get really mad. They'll shame you. They'll post pictures. Yeah. Or you could get a ticket
Starting point is 01:54:37 if there's like a cop and they see you doing it because littering or whatever. And they said literally like if you don't flush the toilet, you leave it a mess. The same thing could happen. And they're like like there's stories of like cops being in a bathroom and then someone walking out and i'm noticing and i'm giving you a ticket or something like that
Starting point is 01:54:51 keep singapore clean i'm not saying it's you know i don't know i was that's all i was my kids get in trouble if they don't flush the toilet and my kids get in trouble if they leave all their all their dirty plates on the counter i like the way you run the house yeah well yeah man i mean what hope does the world have if you don't raise kids that have some kind of sense dude the contract with your son is epic the contract on the iphone anybody out there that's a parent you got a kid want an iphone make him sign a contract because if he ever breaks the contract you just go i think you just lost your phone but let's check the contract and you go back and see what the word's saying there you go this is a we got a go in here from owen veer sama mr john rich by the bank in jamestown michigan there's a bank for sale well we bought one in oklahoma we call it old glory bank um old glory
Starting point is 01:55:39 bank.com so the point of this bank it's's Ben Carson, Larry Elder, myself, a bunch of big institutional bank guys that are patriots that stepped away from the woke banks out there across this country. And the whole premise of the bank is you will never be canceled for exercising your constitutional rights. We saw it happen in Canada with Trudeau. We're seeing it happen in Brazil. It's going to happen in this country. It's already starting to happen with various companies and people. And so we thought, you know what, unless you want to be completely uh pigeonholed and stuck you better come up with something else and so this is a this is a bank for patriots run by patriots where you'll never have your bank weaponized against you can i open an account if i'm not
Starting point is 01:56:19 living in that state yeah you can open an account anywhere in the u.s so the physical bank is in oklahoma there will be more online oh glory bank you can reserve an account anywhere in the U.S. The physical bank is in Oklahoma. There will be more online. Old Glory Bank, you can reserve an account. We've got tens of thousands of accounts already reserved. Let's do it. We've got a coffee shop open. Well, Tim, here's the thing. Everybody wants to run for the hills, but what hill are you going to run to?
Starting point is 01:56:38 Because the enemy owns all the hills. So you've got to go build new hills for people to run to. That's in entertainment. It's in banking. If you don't have a secure bank account, if somebody can just turn it off because you went on TimCast, John Rich, and we don't like TimCast, so we're going to freeze your bank account.
Starting point is 01:56:54 You went to the wrong protest. You made the wrong social media post. Whatever. You own the wrong rifle. We're going to shut you off. Well, there's people in this country that really fantasize about being able to do that, and they probably will pull it off at some point.
Starting point is 01:57:08 This bank had to happen. I hope other platforms show up like that too, run by real freedom, free-thinking people that would never punish you for exercising your constitutional right. What a concept that freedom is now a marketing angle. What a concept. What a comment that is on our country that saying you won't be punished for exercising your constitutional rights is a marketing angle,
Starting point is 01:57:32 but that's where we're at. All right, let's read. We got this one from Part Axelus. He says, I live close to Kamloops. John Rich is a legend in Canada. My buddy Ty has an epic story about meeting him in Prince George.
Starting point is 01:57:44 Okay. Alright. Probably does. What's Kamloops? Kamloops? Kamloops. That's way up north. That's north of like, is that north of Fort McMurray? Yeah, it is. I think so. I'm from, my family's from Newfoundland so we're hanging out. Oh, okay. I've been up there too. Is it St. T? St. John?
Starting point is 01:58:01 That's the capital. Yeah, it was a small town. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, Canada, listen, in the dead that's the cap i mean that's the capital yeah it was a small town oh yeah yeah no canada listen in the dead of winter you go play canada because there's nothing going on and every hockey rink is packed with 10 000 people that that's that's how we do it yeah we go to the coldest i've ever been fort mcmurray alberta in january of 2006 where your nose sticks together because the inside of your nose freezes yeah yeah that Yeah. That's cold, boys. You learn to live with the cold.
Starting point is 01:58:26 Boys. The Elder Millennial says, Tim, you just re-earned my subscription for this and next month. You addressed it perfectly. Keep growing. Rich, you're great. Spin the UFO. Meditate often. Hey, I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:58:36 I'll spin it again. All right. Blissgirl says, big shout out to Ian. Your sacrifice, kindness, and care for Mr. Bocas, I added the Mr., is a testament to the goodness of humanity. No matter what happens, you have enhanced the quality of his life for an extended time. Many blessings, and you have rolled a 20 in perpetuity. Thank you. Yes, he's doing well.
Starting point is 01:58:56 I reintroduced toys. We've been playing a lot, the wild animal. I have some update on Bucko now that you brought him up. I mentioned last week that he had a reaction to the preservative that the stem cells were kept in when he had the injection that he went into some heavy breathing it was expected uh it's not considered a preservative technically i called vet stem which is the company that spun the the uh stem cells down and they let me know it's what happens is the stem cells are cultured in a cell media product that's proprietary mix that stem knows
Starting point is 01:59:22 i don't know what it is but that stems got it it's proteins electrolytes and a serum albumin and then it's washed his stem cells are washed in saline and then put back into his own serum and then that's how it's reintroduced to the cat a lot of times animals will just have a reaction from that do you have to do anything to manage it no no it's just a short burst of like heavy breathing and a little bit of exhaustion while the body's working it and then he's back to normal. He's back to normal by the time he got back, but he's tired. I think he's going in for another round on Thursday.
Starting point is 01:59:49 It was sounding good. Is he, is he gaining weight? Yeah, man. I mean, he looks great. You should come see him.
Starting point is 01:59:57 What's that? Mr. Broke is a cat. Yeah. Oh no, I've seen it. Yeah. He was,
Starting point is 02:00:00 he was, he was, he was staying with me and Alison with, with, uh, Alison and me. What is it? What's it? I'm staying with Alison and me. If it's after the verb, Allison With Allison and me? I'm staying with Allison and me If it's after the verb
Starting point is 02:00:08 It's them and me Allison and I? No Because you couldn't say he's staying with I If it's before the verb You couldn't say he's staying with me Before the verb you say Allison and I were watching him
Starting point is 02:00:16 After the verb It's watching him with Allison and me Are you sure you know what you're talking about? I'm a grammar Nazi I feel strongly about this too The one Nazi I am is a grammar Nazi And i feel strongly about this the one nazi i am is a grammar nazi and then uh so anyway when uh ian came to pick him up and bring him in for his stem cell harvesting all that afterwards we were like you know he should stay with ian because
Starting point is 02:00:35 you know you brought him took him back and we're gonna take care of him we thought it was a good idea for uh for you know and plus managing the stem cells and stuff it's working out but uh you know but you know allison's saying she's like we it's working out but uh you know but you know allison's saying she's like we got to get bogus back he's gonna come he'll be back no but i think it's good that you guys are um getting the treatment and staying up on that because if we switched like we don't know what you know and if you started it we want you to see it through it even gets a little just cara and i working together to feed him there's two of us that can get a little confusing it's really good to have like, you know, one person,
Starting point is 02:01:05 one person in church. Plus it's good for him, the chaos, I think. Yeah, I was going to say, having, he knows who he's going home to, staying in one stable place must be comforting. Animals are some of my favorite people. They're amazing. Right.
Starting point is 02:01:17 All right. Truly, their personalities. Absolutely. Let's, we'll read two more here. We'll read a couple more dylan selking says tim will never read my super chats got him got him got him miss mary says i'm not a paid bot tim been a supporter for years i hope you realize what an insane take this is this is an insult to your viewers and supporters well i got nothing else to say i mean look uh eliza can't make anyone happy
Starting point is 02:01:44 are you joking right no i just that's why it's like i don't care dude look man i've been i've been around this this for so long i've said it before i'll say it again it ebbs and flows there are people who will like you then they'll hate you a year later they demand that you talk about things they will support you for standing up for what you believe in then get mad when you don't believe what they want you to believe literally don't care miss mary like by all means if you don't like the they want you to believe. Literally don't care. Miss Mary, like by all means, if you don't like the content and you're not a supporter anymore, that's just the way things go. And there's something, there's something I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to sit here and be like, Oh gee, well, let me say what I have to say so I can earn your $5.
Starting point is 02:02:15 Like, dude, if you don't want to give me $5, don't give me $5. That's all I can say. All right. All right. What else do we got? I think there was one more. Jared V says, Jeremy is live and trying to break down what you're saying. What do you have to say about that? You literally said you don't care about Eliza, so what else is there to say? It's a really, really good point. Eliza is an irrelevant figure who's trying to be famous, and y'all are making her famous.
Starting point is 02:02:35 She's not in Congress. She doesn't know anybody. She's not, she's, I guess she's talked with like Jack Dorsey in the past, but she is just like, it's remarkable to me when Jeremy Hambly goes on his show and says something like Tim won't address the Jack Murphy stuff. And it's like, interesting.
Starting point is 02:02:54 I wonder if anybody who is paying attention to a Chinese balloon carrying potential explosives of the United States is concerned about what some, some video, some guy produced. So if like you're interested in interpersonal drama and e-girl celebrity stuff timcast is not the channel for you and if that's the case and then i don't want your money like dude it's it's remarkable that people are like tim if you don't address e-girl drama i'm gonna cancel i'm like okay i don't cancel i guess i don't know you know we're gonna do this week we are going to be uh potentially talking with some members of congress and um because i what i'm concerned about is will people have enough money to pay their bills
Starting point is 02:03:36 will fuel prices be too high is china sent preparing for an attack on taiwan what i don't care about is did e-girl lie to get famous? There's an Abraham Lincoln quote. I was going to interject. I was going to say, you're allowed to care about that. That's fine. But don't be surprised that I don't
Starting point is 02:03:54 and don't care about it and don't want to talk about it. And that's just it. The Abe Lincoln quote that I imagine everyone knows, so I didn't bring it up, but I guess they don't, is that you can please
Starting point is 02:04:03 some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time but you can't please all of the people all the time and then he freed the slaves well that's my story if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel share
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Starting point is 02:04:53 You can follow the show at TimCastIRL, basically everywhere. I got some news, too. Apparently, we're starting to kill it on Facebook. I never cared for Facebook. Let's get Zuckerberg in next Thursday. Make Facebook cool again. What do you got, Mark? We've been posting everything to Facebook.
Starting point is 02:05:04 We just basically ignored it. And actually, it's like really big now. We're getting a ton of traffic. And I'm really surprised to see like millions and millions. And so I'm kind of like, okay, maybe we should have used Facebook from the get-go. So thank you, everybody watching on Facebook. Bring back MySpace now. Yeah, MySpace.
Starting point is 02:05:18 You can follow me personally at TimCast. John, do you want to shout anything out? Redneck Riviera, baby. My whiskey's doing great great 10,000 plus stores redneckriviera.com we've now given over a million bucks back to the folds of honor
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Starting point is 02:05:36 we don't get to have anything matter of fact so God bless each and every one of you and thanks for having me back on your show brother I appreciate it
Starting point is 02:05:42 right on I'm Hannah Claire Brimlow I'm a writer for TimCast.com. You should follow at TimCastNews on Twitter, and you should also follow at TimCastNews on Instagram. You can follow me personally at Instagram. I can't remember anything right now. At my, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 02:05:59 Hannah B. Okay, you can follow me. I'm going to just talk to you, not the camera. You can follow me on Instagram at hannaclair.b. You can also follow me on Twitter at hcbrimlow. I was thinking about what I was going to say. Maybe that's why you got distracted. I was looking at you but not thinking about what you said.
Starting point is 02:06:14 I've heard my intros are not long enough, and I'm not prepared to make my outros longer, I guess. That one was great. John, always a pleasure. Awesome to see you, man. Yes, sir. Good seeing you as well. I want to give a special shout out to Jeremy Hambly.
Starting point is 02:06:24 If you're listening, buddy, I love you, you man um you got a great brain and i like it when you talk about the real stuff dude you you really have a good great perception like you're able to see shit when it hits the fan before it's hitting the fan and i need you just to stay focused in the the greater culture scheme of like software and and development and administration of social networking and things like that because you're really brilliant. I hope to see you again soon, man. I love you. Goodbye, everyone. See you later. Yeah, we don't kowtow
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