Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #715 ANOTHER TOXIC SPILL, Emergency Order In AZ, COVER UP Underway w/ WV Del Chiarelli

Episode Date: February 15, 2023

Tim, Phil, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Del Chiarelli to discuss another toxic chemical spill in Arizona, cars in Ohio encountering acid rain, a US Senator saying "lock your doors tonight" after being ...asked about UFOs, and Donald Trump promising to bring back the guillotine and public executions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We have another emergency order, this time coming out of Tucson, Arizona. May not be as serious as what's happening in Ohio, but people are freaking out about it nonetheless. A hazardous material leak on I-10, and they've issued a shelter-in-place order. We're also learning more about what's going on with the Ohio toxic chemical spill. We got a viral video of a woman walking into her yard showing all of her chickens are dead. This is a typical suburban looking yard. This is not that there's no visible signs of chemical leak or anything like that is walking to the yard, dead chickens. And so we're wondering about what the government's telling us that the water and the air is safe. And there are many who think and I would have to agree, probably not the case. We'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Plus, Elon Musk is shutting off Starlink. He's saying that Ukraine may start World War III. And some in Europe have come out and already said, you know what? It looks like that we're already there. This may be the case. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe it's all hyperbolic. Still don't know for sure.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Maybe it will erupt into something bigger. But we got some stuff going on at home and because we here at TimCast are downwind from that toxic chemical spill, you know, we're kind of worried about it as well. Plus, West Virginia is going to be heavily impacted by this. Potentially, the water base could be seriously affected by it. And let me just say we're hearing some crazy things. I can't say too much, but I'll leave it at that and we'll get into it.
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Starting point is 00:02:14 I am the delegate from West Virginia's 78th House District, which is southeast portion of Mon County right outside of Morgantown. And like you were saying with the water stuff, a lot of these maps that I'm seeing, all these areas affected, all of them have my county in it. So naturally I have to be concerned and I have to be concerned for about 18,000 people. So it's really not easy to get questions from people about water safety when I don't have very many answers.
Starting point is 00:02:42 I spoke with a couple of people from West Virginia American Water Today who they said that, you know, officially that the water is fine. It's being monitored. It's being tested. They have a secondary source of water that's ready to go should anything happen. But that's all that I have. I have no further details.
Starting point is 00:02:58 I'm almost in as much dark as the people that live in the district and the affected areas. Well, we'll definitely talk about that. Plus, I'm really interested to hear about the shape of West Virginia. Obviously, we're setting up shop here. We've been setting up shop here. But a lot of people need to understand what's going on with even a state like West Virginia, which is MAGA country, has its elements of wokeness. So thanks for hanging out.
Starting point is 00:03:16 This should be fun. We also got Phil Labonte hanging out. Hello, everybody. I am Phil Labonte, lead vocalist for All That Remains. And I am here to get into the conversation. Let's do it. Hi, I'm Hannah Claire Brimlow. I'm a writer for TimCast.com,
Starting point is 00:03:30 and I keep knocking over this UFO. I have to stop now. Serge? That's what she does. She knocks over the UFO. Oh my gosh, this is terrifying. That shocked me. Hey guys, I am at Serge.com.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I'm ready to go if you guys are. Let's go. Yeah, let's jump into this first story, man This is crazy stuff We got this from timcast.com Breaking Shelter in place issued in Tucson, Arizona Following hazardous material leak on I-10
Starting point is 00:03:53 Civilians within a one mile radius Have been ordered to evacuate The stretch of road has reportedly been closed In both directions at mile post 272 Civilians within a one mile radius Have been ordered to evacuate The Arizona Department of Transportation has not issued an estimated time
Starting point is 00:04:06 for I-10's reopening as of this report's publication. We have this video from Raw's Alerts. Is that how you say it? Let's see if we can play this. Take a look at this. Let me get the audio going for you guys.
Starting point is 00:04:20 There we go. So I don't know what that yellow stuff spraying out of there is, but I certainly wouldn't want to be anywhere near it. So there it is. I mean, simply put, they say Tucson's National Weather Service cautioned drivers of dense blowing dust prior to the truck's overturning.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Motorists traveling along I-10 should be prepared for rapidly reduced visibility below a mile to blowing dust. Images and video from the incident show what appears to be yellow and red smoke emitting from the overturned truck, which was reportedly carrying nitric acid, according to Pima County's Office of Emergency Management and Tucson Fire. This seems like it may just be an accident. And accidents happen.
Starting point is 00:04:58 So my question for you guys, I'm wondering, is it because of what's happening in Ohio, we are now laser-focused on things like this that we probably shouldn't be that worried about? Or is there another reason we typically – I'll put it this way. We usually don't hear big news about one-mile evacuation orders and shelter-in-place orders. I mean, I feel like that would be big news no matter what, whenever it would happen. But maybe we just don't care, so it never makes Twitter, it never makes the news. I think you're probably right that it's people kind of focusing on this stuff because of the situation in Ohio. I think that Ohio is dramatic.
Starting point is 00:05:36 It's clearly something that the EPA and Transportation – TSA, or not, the... Buttigieg. Yeah, Buttigieg. Department of Buttigieg. And TSB or whatever. They should be paying attention to that. I think that this situation in Tucson is likely just an accident, you know, unfortunately. But we don't hear stories like this.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I mean, I kind of feel like if there was a one-mile radius evacuation, I feel like if that were to happen at any other time we'd be talking about it i think only be i think the only reason that i do that i think so personally i feel like it's hard to go down the uh the rabbit hole not hard to not go down the rabbit hole it's do we believe in coincidences maybe things like this happen all the time but it seems a little suspiciously close to it i mean you can't help but wonder and then it also seems concerning because you know we mentioned Mayor Pete, who had that big press conference, but failed to mention what I've seen people talking about as the worst man-made disaster to ever happen on American soil.
Starting point is 00:06:34 What's happening now in Ohio? In Ohio, yeah. And we're like two hours away from there. We are not very far from that at all. That's creepy. We are definitely in that radius. Tucker Carlson suggested we're under attack. Tonight?
Starting point is 00:06:44 When was the last time Tucker Carlson didn't say we were under attack? I mean, but you look at what's going on. So for one thing, I think it's fair to say it's a fact that the power grid's being attacked. We've got numerous reports of extremists, I guess, whether you believe it or not, but numerous reports of some kind of extremists shooting at power substations and knocking electricity out. So that's happening. But then you've got i mean i don't know how you look you've got the toxic chemical spill you've got the balloons in our air the objects floating in our airspace interfering with with civilian commercial airlines
Starting point is 00:07:14 and uh yeah i don't know i can't help but feel like our infrastructure is being attacked you've got food shortages in certain areas eggs specifically but then you look at the culling of chickens and and this is what this is the messaging we got. When we talked about it, people were like, you keep blaming Joe Biden for the cost of eggs, but you're not telling people about the avian flu that's sweeping through the chicken populations. And I'm like, oh yeah, like in New Zealand
Starting point is 00:07:36 and South Africa where they're culling chickens too. Why are they culling chickens? Different reasons. For some reason, everybody's culling chickens in different countries. Maybe just a big coincidence. Or I don't know, maybe there's something else going on. Mike DeWine, the governor of Ohio, did this press conference today where he said that
Starting point is 00:07:51 the train that was passing through, the state authorities weren't notified of what it was carrying because it wasn't considered a high hazardous material train. And that means like that there weren't enough chemicals on it for it to be considered dangerous from the explanation the governor gave. And that makes me think that this this must happen more often than we realize. And this one just kind of blew up on social media. I mean, if you saw the videos of the trains on fire, there was no way you could look away. And then on top of that, they followed up with a controlled burn that looked like essentially Chernobyl.
Starting point is 00:08:23 I mean, that's what people are calling this. Mushroom Club. Right. Have you guys ever seen Erin Brockovich? Yeah. I mean, this stuff happens,
Starting point is 00:08:29 you know? What was that story? Like, they were polluting the groundwater and then people were drinking chromium or something?
Starting point is 00:08:35 Yeah. Hexavalent chromium or something like that that was killing them all? Yeah. So, is it that it doesn't, is it that we're noticing
Starting point is 00:08:41 that it happened in Ohio and then it happened in South Carolina and then it happened in Houston and now it's happening It didn't happen in South Carolina and I don't believe it happened in Houston. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:47 You were reading something earlier. So what happens is you get a train that derails in Ohio and a mushroom cloud and a controlled burn. Animals are dying. And then the next time a train derails, everyone's like, it's happening again. But it's like, yo, trains derail like all the time. Like 112 or 150 per month. Yeah's over a thousand per year with the number of that of trained derailments that apparently happen all the time this one or at least the one in ohio seems a little bit aggressive because again the mushroom cloud you could see from space
Starting point is 00:09:15 so something there seems a little bit different plus we were looking at the report earlier that said there may have been more poisonous chemicals in that than we originally thought somebody's lying somebody is lying and i don't. Somebody's lying. Somebody is lying. I don't know who it is, but somebody is lying. And Pete, Boudreaux today said we've done the majority of testings, and I think it's like 200 and however many of 400 homes. And there's been no detection. There's been no detection of what? Chemicals?
Starting point is 00:09:38 Like, what are you telling us? He's saying that everything's okay 10 days after the fact, right? Shouldn't he have been there by now? Shouldn't we have heard more about this? I don't believe a word he says. No, how can you? And I don't think that he has any, you know, it doesn't matter what he says because I don't, even if, even if I believed what he says, I would be, I think that like, even if he's
Starting point is 00:09:56 telling the truth or he believes he's telling the truth, I don't think that they, they have accurate information. I don't think that they, they have the, that's really, I guess what it boils down to. I don't think that they have accurate information that's really, I guess, what it boils down to. I don't think that they have accurate information to give to people. I think that they're spitballing and guessing. Air on the side of caution. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:11 I remember I was in downtown Chicago a couple decades ago riding my bike and then I saw smoke coming out of like the 10th floor of a building and I see people walking up to the building and they're like going like this and they're looking at it and you know what I did?
Starting point is 00:10:23 I went the other way. I'm like, yo, if there's some kind of leak or who knows what's going on why are you walking towards it well i want to see you or something like that what is it what is it called uh rubbernecking yeah when you're on the highway sticking your neck out and trying to go look at something and uh man it's kind of crazy because i've just always known that lesson i guess my dad taught me that he was a firefighter it's like you see smoke you get up away from it yeah but regular people they go towards it and you think that like that was like it was really dramatic the the burn in in ohio it's not like you know everyone here agrees that it looked something like a mushroom cloud or like an actual volcano
Starting point is 00:11:00 erupting like go the other way and anyone leave yeah anyone that can get out of there it's probably a good idea to leave i can't imagine that but you know but what if you can't go anywhere well that's a different story i mean so so here's here's the question here's the question i got you know you can't ignore it right i mean what's going on in arizona there's people are posting videos of it maybe this stuff happens way more than people realize it is really really bad but nobody knows or cares right so it's kind of like uh they there's that experiment they did where they took a guy and they put him in a room and they said you know we're gonna have you do be part of a study just
Starting point is 00:11:34 fill out this paperwork while he's filling out the paperwork they blow smoke under the door the dude then gets up and goes to the door and feels see if it's hot and then yells hey there's smoke there's smoke in here and then he goes and opens and calls some people in. They then do another trial. Same thing. They tell some people, you're going to be in an experiment. Come in this room
Starting point is 00:11:52 and fill out this paperwork. They put three people in the room, have them all sit down and start filling out paperwork, blow smoke under the door. And you know what the people do then? See the smoke. Look at everybody else.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Look at the smoke. Look at everybody else. Go back to filling out that paperwork that bystander effect is really hey if nobody's out i'm not gonna and then there was another really funny experiment uh i can't remember what show this was they have people go into like a doctor's office and then they're sitting down and then one by one people come in and sit down and then a bell rings and every time it does all of the actors stand up and then the bell rings and they sit down and the person the actors stand up and then the bell rings and they
Starting point is 00:12:25 sit down and the person who's like not in on it is confused it's like what's going on then eventually joins in and starts doing the same standing up and sitting down it's like why would you do that it's the craziest thing people do not think independently and that's dangerous so here's what i'm saying with this arizona stuff i bet this stuff happens all the time and they never have to report on it because nobody cares. But now because of Ohio, somebody sees an orange gas coming out and they post it on Twitter. Everybody
Starting point is 00:12:51 posts it. Then they're forced to say, okay, evacuate when you should have evacuated in the first place, but they didn't want to say anything because it would freak people out and make them look bad. Do we think that there's maybe a hyper fixation on these events that happen afterwards because they want to lessen the attention that's happening on high well it's well it increases the attention like this i mean like here we are second night you know starting
Starting point is 00:13:16 a show off talking about toxic chemical spills because of this and people are scared now that the derailment in south carolina Carolina and Houston were toxic chemical spills, but as far as I can tell, they weren't. I think there was like something with Houston where they're like concerned about a potential leak, but there's no real, you know, there's no like smoke going anywhere, anything like that.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Whereas with Ohio, there's a gigantic black cloud filling the sky and animals are dying and stuff like that. So I'm just saying, the government probably wouldn't warn you if they don't have to warn you you'll that means for all you know you could go outside and be walking into a cloud of radioactive garbage and they're like just don't say anything otherwise we'll look bad you can
Starting point is 00:13:53 trust the government to do that i guess you can absolutely trust the government to try and hide things absolutely a number of train derailments or train collisions happen in extremely rural areas right where it's easy to say it didn't happen. I mean, one of the big things with all of this is social media, right? People filmed these things happening. They definitely filmed the fire. They definitely filmed the explosion. It makes people more aware of keeping an eye out for this. But if you're in the middle of a cornfield and your train topples over even if it doesn't have chemicals on it you know really it's up to the companies involved amtrak in this case norfolk southern to say something and why would they if they don't need to we got a super chat
Starting point is 00:14:34 from ca2ca outdoors that says tim per the nfpa there were 433 500 hazardous material incidents last year i think it's laser focus on an incident. It's on a huge scale. Yeah, but here's the thing about hazardous material incidents. That could mean like someone in an airport spilled a bottle of acetone. And then it's like,
Starting point is 00:14:55 ah, we got an acetone spill. Like, ah. All right, we got to get this cleaned up. Fill out the paperwork. And there's like a puddle on the ground, but you can't drive through it. You can't put equipment through it. So they got to get it clean somehow.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Things like that where it's like nobody's going to die because someone spilled a gallon of acetone. It's going to suck. If someone vomits on a plane, they consider that a hazmat. Right. Because it's, you know. Yeah, biohazard. So are all these events going into the same file folder at the office? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Mushroom cloud that you can see from space. Somebody threw up on an airplane. And somebody mentioned, too, in the chat that nitric acid will basically put you out if from space, somebody threw up on an airplane. And somebody mentioned too in the chat that nitric acid will basically put you out if you breathe it in, so don't get anywhere near that stuff. And there are people driving through this cloud. Let's jump to this next story from ABC News
Starting point is 00:15:33 because now we're going to start getting freaky. There were more toxic chemicals on the train that derailed in Ohio than originally reported data shows. This is from last night. So it may be, you know, it may be things that have already been reported
Starting point is 00:15:46 that people finally figured out. Ethylhexyl acrylate, a carcinogen, etc. I think we know about this. But now we got this from the Daily Mail. Don't tell me it's safe. Residents of East Palestine
Starting point is 00:15:59 express fears about returning after it's revealed there were more toxic chemicals on derailed ohio train than originally reported and thousands of livestock left dead yo thousands of livestock let me see if i have this uh this video here let me see uh where's that video there we go check this one out i'm gonna play this play this clip for you guys and uh the cage and this this is what i found amanda brashiers was going to feed her five hens and
Starting point is 00:16:26 rooster this morning when she discovered them all lifeless practically in the same position with no signs of a predator entering their enclosure i'm beyond upset and quite panicked because this they're they may be just chickens but their're family. That's right. She says her chickens. They're family. This one, they crossed the line. They killed chickens? Damn them. Well, they weren't eating them.
Starting point is 00:16:50 I mean, that's okay. But, yo, here's what I think. I think this whole town is blanketed in toxic stew. They can't see.
Starting point is 00:17:01 And the chickens are literally the canary in the coal mine. And this lady in the video, she goes, if it can kill chickens now, imagine what will happen to us in 20 years. And I'm just like, 20 years? Lady, they're dead now. What's going to happen to you in a week? Here's what I think.
Starting point is 00:17:15 They're chickens. They're low to the ground. The chemicals are raining down on everything and everyone. The chickens are outside. So the chemicals blanket everything. The chickens like to flat their little wings and dust up the air, breathe it in, and peck the ground, eating, ingesting it, and dying. Humans aren't eating things off the ground.
Starting point is 00:17:34 But this lady's walking around outside, wafting all that garbage up into the air, probably breathing it in. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if we're looking at a few months and people are in the hospital with scarred lungs or whatever kind of damage, chemical burns, who knows. That's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:17:49 The idea of that, like if there's a massive amount of casualties coming in the next, that can pop up in the next couple months. I mean, I'm not even sure how to process that. I mean, the chickens are dead. Yeah. Well, and you just have to wait. You just have to wait to see if it happens. That must be the most terrifying thing about living in this area right now it could be fine it could definitely not be fine yo they said the air was safe yeah the chickens are dead
Starting point is 00:18:14 they're saying the air is safe they are safe and they're not they're not finding any chemical residue inside people's houses but where are you finding it are you testing the outside well you're testing the ground are you testing the sidewalks like water they're getting they're giving you a statistic that's easy to avoid i mean some places are saying they're seeing some detection i think it was like cincinnati's water department um but that it wasn't a big deal and they're you know i it's hard for me not to feel like a lot of regional agencies are being asked to suppress information or they're not able to test fast enough to get the accurate information out kind of through no fault of their own because they've never had to deal with anything like this
Starting point is 00:18:47 you guys remember the algal bloom in uh where was it superior or something yeah and then all of a sudden these cities on on the great lake had no water because the algal bloom toxifies the water you can't drink it and then within a 40 mile radius of these cities there was no water everything was bought up everybody rushed to the grocery store and bought whatever bottled water they could and then it was all gone so people were forced to evacuate because there's there's no water to drink the water was toxic yeah no water not not just i mean people go through what four gallons a day something like that as an average person the person i think i think they're saying in emergency emergency situations they're advising what is it like a gallon for three days that's to drink emergency situation yeah for an emergency
Starting point is 00:19:30 yeah yeah if you're rationing it's like a gallon a day i think people go through a lot more water yeah like when it comes to like if you're bathing and stuff like that it's like oh dude bathing's no question i mean the average person's probably using like it's like four gallons a minute in the shower right yeah some ridiculous is it really that I mean, I don't know for sure, but it's multiple gallons per minute. Bro, think about this. How many gallons of water can your bathtub hold and how long does it take to fill up your bathtub?
Starting point is 00:19:51 Yeah, I mean, usually they're like, I think they're like 15 gallons or something like that. No way, dude. They're weighing like 50 to 100 maybe. Gallons in a bathtub? Yeah. Wow, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:02 I mean, look up a 50-gallon drum. You ever see a 50-gallon drum? Yeah. Yeah, yeah i mean try taking a bath in one of those things good luck i mean bathtub might even be more than that it just depends on your bathtub i suppose but yeah they tell you like when a storm's coming to fill up your bathtub with water and in the event that something bad like the pipes get busted up or something happens you can't get access to water oh yeah there's 72 gallons of typical bath that holds all right i see there you go yeah right in the middle 50 to 100 the water is definitely the most dangerous game because this lady's talking about you know 20 years or whatever it doesn't matter because like you said she's coming home to dead chickens now they're right there underneath all of it down but if this stuff makes it into the
Starting point is 00:20:37 water i mean look at west virginia look at the amount of area that is affected by this so if they might be facing some sort of health consequences in the next, what, six to eight months, who knows where places like Charleston and Huntington and Montegalia County, my district, who knows what kind of problems we're going to have two years from now, three years from now. I think it's sooner than that. Take a look at this image. Me being generous.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Stu Peters tweeted this out. He says, just to put this in perspective, the contaminated Ohio River is the largest tributary of the Mississippi River. You can see the Ohio River Bas river basin this whole area man so it's happening just up right here this explosion if all this stuff gets in the gets in the water excuse me it's spreading out over everything look how much everything west of the appalachians just just yeah man yeah that's your water this is this is a big a big concern for us for us, and that's why the chief of staff came by today and said, do you want an update regularly
Starting point is 00:21:29 from the West Virginia American Water People? I said, of course, because obviously I want to know as much information as I can get. I don't know how much they're going to be able to give me, but I talked to them once today, and of course they said that it's fine. It's being tested.
Starting point is 00:21:41 We have secondary source of water ready to go, but do you believe them? I want to. Well, yeah believe them? I want to. Well, yeah, of course I want to. I also want to believe that they have my best interests. They want to help me stay and live longer, that they want to end wars and they believe war is bad. And there's a lot of things I want to believe. And it might be fine today.
Starting point is 00:22:00 But as we know, water moves downwards. So what about three days from now? What about next week? Right. And I think that the people that I spoke to, I don't think that there's anything malicious about them. They were, I think that they are working, doing the best that they can with the information
Starting point is 00:22:11 that they've been given. But do I think that they have the whole picture? I mean, I wouldn't, if I had to guess, I would say no. Because the government doesn't lie, right? What would happen if the word got out to, I mean, this is two-thirds of west virginia and not to mention i mean almost all of ohio but like let's speaking from the
Starting point is 00:22:31 perspective of west virginia like what do you think people would do if the word got out that the water actually was contaminated and they couldn't drink it oh it's pandemonium pandemonium it would be it would be saying a circus doesn't even do it justice because it would be way more aggressively violent and it would have just detrimental to no end. You couldn't even quantify it. It's almost the whole state of Ohio and like the state of Ohio. West Virginia, Tennessee, Kentucky. Ohio is the fifth most populated state in the country.
Starting point is 00:22:57 People like that. There's a lot of people in Ohio, never mind the people in Tennessee. And I mean, this isn't that one mile radius that we were just talking about in Arizona this is entire states effectively so there's the level to the degree to which people need to be prepared is
Starting point is 00:23:15 I've tweeted this you know I was often that in the future we're going to look back and be shocked at the idea that we would literally flush fresh water down the toilet like literally just waste it there's going to and be shocked at the idea that we would literally flush fresh water down the toilet. Yeah, totally. Like, literally just waste it. There's going to come a time where it's going to be hard to source water. There's already issues at the Great Lakes where we've been depleting them,
Starting point is 00:23:37 and then restrictions had to be put in place so that they could be replenished naturally and maintain. Then you get other states, like I think it was Arizona that was suing, trying to take Great Lakes water, arguing that as part of the United States, we have access to all water sources. Wow. But lakes coalition includes i think ontario canada so it's like it's an international treaty you can't interfere with it but taking a look now at the entirety of ohio i can only say i absolutely hope it really isn't that bad but hope and a couple uh you know five bucks i'll get you a cup of coffee so if if it were me and and i was in the direct impact uh area of the ohio river basin yo i'd be i'd be filling up maybe i'd maybe go buy like 10 50 gallon drums and just fill them up i'm not seal them up i'm
Starting point is 00:24:16 not sure if my ignorance of how bad it actually is would it would be like considered bliss or is detrimental because it looks really terrible but for for as much as i'm actually like educated about this kind of stuff it could be actually no big deal i don't know it doesn't look good though i hope it's no big deal all the farmland yeah yeah i mean i hope it's no big deal i hope everyone is totally fine i hope those chickens just got really tired and went to sleep you know what i mean but i think you should go get the water because worst comes to worst you use it when the power goes out some other time or you have that resource on hand my problem is just there is no way to know and it's hard to know that the only way we get through it is just by
Starting point is 00:24:58 waiting to see what happens we are now in a completely defensive position to this and nobody i don't even know if defensive is the right to describe it uh trucker and tourists in the super chat saying what about the food supply there's thousands of acres of farmland yeah yeah we're reacting all that farmland i don't know man that's my point though we only we only have the ability to react we don't have any choice but to deal with the consequences and that is how do you even prepare for something that could potentially be such a big scale? Like I said, I hope it's totally fine. But how could it be? They just burned a ton of chemicals into the atmosphere.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Isn't this what environmentalists always say we should not do? Isn't like the world basically blanketed in radioactive particulates because of all the nuclear bomb tests we did? There was something about that i was reading like it's hard for us to date certain things because we just blanket the planet and yeah we messed up nuclear fallout of some sort well that's who we messed up no we messed it up sorry i misspoke no i mean we did mess up i agree for sure that's what we have to use like surgical steel coming from like world war ii ships and everything yeah because it doesn't have the background radiation inside of it so like new steel harvested or like refined today is going to be radioactive? Is that what it is?
Starting point is 00:26:09 I think so. That's why we literally go down and find those old ships because it's been kept underneath the water and that's isolated from all that particular. That's what I understand. Can't we like de-radioactive it or something somehow? Like we're humans. We're pretty smart. We can figure that out, can't we?
Starting point is 00:26:21 No idea. I have no idea. No idea. I don't know anything about it. Sounds like someone's ready to make a billion dollars if they can figure that one out, can't we? No idea. I have no idea. No idea. I don't know anything about- Sounds like someone's ready to make a billion dollars if they can figure that one out, Phil. I'm looking at you. Hey, look.
Starting point is 00:26:29 I got some studying to do then, apparently. How to get the radiation out of metal. Phil Labonte, the face of de-radioactivating metal. I mean, if I could, I'd love to. Take a look at these pictures that Stu Peters posted. This is crazy stuff right here. We got this tweet. Stu Peters says,
Starting point is 00:26:43 Ohio, this is what's happening to cars after driving through spurts of rain 70 plus miles southeast of the east palestine incident yeah that's like relatively close to where we are i think that's like where you are uncomfortably close to uncomfortably take a look at these pictures so okay all right maybe this is nothing i don't want to you know it's a tweet saying this is, it's, it's, it's just people posting on the internet. We don't know that it's true, but look at these photos. They're, they're covered in, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:27:15 It looks like salt almost like, look at this, these streaks. Yeah. It does look like, it looks like someone drove their car through like new England after. Yeah. After like the salt. But it looks like the paint even kind of flaked off or something. Especially here. What is this?
Starting point is 00:27:32 That's weird residue. Yeah, weird residue, man. There was no way to avoid residue. That cloud was black. There was definitely residue falling back to earth, right? It's just a question of, is this residue toxic? I guess Pete says no. If it's doing that says no
Starting point is 00:27:45 i really don't want to get on whether or not i want it inside me it's going to be in like 10 years you're going to be watching youtube and you're gonna be watching you know tim cast irl and we're really old people i'm just kidding i'll be i'll be 47 so i won't sound like that but then all of a sudden ads gonna play and it's like did you live within 200 miles of east palestine ohio yep you may and are you suffering from breathing problems you may be entitled to a And it's like, did you live within 200 miles of East Palestine, Ohio? Yep. You may. And are you suffering from breathing problems? You may be entitled to a large cash settlement.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Contact the law firm of non-Lodgkin's lymphoma. No, I said this yesterday. So, theleoma. I said this yesterday, but one of the hazmat responders has seen, said everyone should go get their health evaluated right now. So, they have a base point to to uh track what happens next to their bodies because you don't know what's going to happen so having a basic physical right now will be able to potentially help you in a class action lawsuit he didn't say that part i did but you know if you can't tell what's wrong with you it'd be easy for a company to be like oh well how
Starting point is 00:28:36 do we know you didn't already have markers for leukemia apparently people were saying like aaron brockovich was was saying something oh yeah yeah aaron aaron brockovich is speaking up now asking biden to step up as people fall sick and animals drop dead after ohio train derailment could this be what knocks uh biden out of of the race maybe a failure to respond to an obvious like massive potentially the worst disaster, chemical spill in this country? Yeah. I mean, he's already extremely unpopular. I don't see why it couldn't be a situation where people have a significant turn
Starting point is 00:29:16 against the administration. Isn't that the plot of the West Wing? They're like one of the seasons that like Republican is doing well in the race and then there's a factory fire or something. And he just can never recover from it. I could be misremembering this. I was never a West Wing fan.
Starting point is 00:29:31 You're not a political nerd. Well, I mean, I can't do episodic TV. I just don't have the patience. Fair enough. But yeah, I mean, I don't know. But the fact that Erin Brockovich is making remarks. They made a movie about her. Oh, yeah, I mean, I don't know. But the fact that Erin Brockovich is making remarks, you know. Right, yeah. They made a movie about her.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Oh, yeah. With Julia Roberts. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And she, I mean, she did, you know, she did win the case. I don't remember the details of the case, but. Yeah, it was like chromium in the water or something. It was a big finding, so.
Starting point is 00:30:00 How would Biden respond to this to handle it? You know, we're 10 days out. I don't feel like he's given a strong response to it. Is there any way for us not to look at him and be like, why did we not have a – I mean, I've heard maybe you can speak to this more that the Red Cross doesn't really have a strong presence in the area, that there's not a lot of information, that people are having problems in the government, you know, the government agencies that are doing nothing. I've probably heard about the same as you, but it seems like that there is no response of any kind from any level. Literally nothing. And I've even seen unsubstantiated but journalists are being arrested
Starting point is 00:30:32 that are trying to get too close. One at least. I always like to... That was at a press conference. Yeah, and apparently he was just being noisy. And he was like doing his live report. As journalists tend to do. But I mean, I just, I always can't help but think, what would happen if the former guy,
Starting point is 00:30:48 this happened underneath him? This would be world ending news. If this happened under Trump. Oh yeah. This would be the worst possible thing. It doesn't matter how it happened. It would be his fault. So now that, I mean, because it's Biden,
Starting point is 00:31:00 it just, does he get it? You know what I heard? I heard Biden did it. I mean, that's the- I heard the same thing. It's just that easy to point the finger, right? It's clearly did it. I mean, that's the I heard the same thing. It's easy to point the finger, right? It's clearly his fault. He's so obsessed with trains.
Starting point is 00:31:10 It does seem like something he do. Yeah, I know a guy and his brother knows one of the people who lives just outside of the town whose friend lived nearby. He said he saw Biden right there. Good enough for me. If it's good enough for them, why isn't it good enough for us? Exactly. Absolutely good enough for me if it's good enough for them why isn't it good enough right exactly absolutely good enough so uh someone close to the biden administration office says that joe
Starting point is 00:31:32 biden personally derailed the train the person close to the office was the homeless guy in the alley but he was physically close to the office so i'm telling you the truth that's the narrative that's how they play those games man yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but no, in all seriousness, I don't think... The Biden administration came out and just said the air was safe. That's about it. And now there's dead fish washing up in streams. There's one guy who breeds foxes, they're all sick. And the chickens are dead.
Starting point is 00:31:56 The chickens being dead, that crossed the line. Grinch on the air is going to be like, no, that's just a coincidence. We said the air was safe. Everything's okay. They're just going to continue to try to sidestep this, which is crazy. What would you do? I'd leave. And we've even talked about leaving here now.
Starting point is 00:32:11 We're downwind from the incident. We're not in the direct water impacted area because we're in the panhandle. But still, people are saying like, hey, look, man, someone super chatted just now saying it looks like a storm is going to come through. And those storm patterns, they move eastward, which means we could get rained on with this stuff. So what should we do? Should we lock up the chickens, keep them safe and protected and keep them out of the rain? That rain comes through, it could kill the chickens, man. No joke.
Starting point is 00:32:40 You should definitely keep the chickens out of the – lock them – keep the chickens in the coop. This is tough because if that stuff does come through the rain and it rains here it's gonna go in the ground and there's nothing we can do it will be in the ground everywhere and there's no way to protect the chickens other than building a sealed airtight you know hyperbaric chamber that we pump air and food into to keep them safe and that's just because they're little chickens you know we'll still be breathing in all the garbage and getting sick yeah i think i think you know the challenge for you uh uh delegate is that what is that is that what i say is i say delegate like yeah that would that would work okay uh is um i mean your your your county is much closer you're
Starting point is 00:33:18 in the water radius i mean what do you do how do you what what do you do i i've had a lot of people asking that question and this is my least favorite answer to give to that question is i don't know i have to sit here and wait for the information to be drip fed to me i'm praying to god that the information that i'm getting is accurate or at the very least you know at the very least accurate best case it's it's helpful or you know it will provide a little bit of of comfort but i don't know what we can do we're just at the mercy of this extremely unnatural event. It's possibly what I can't think of any worse man-made chemical disaster that's happened on American soil.
Starting point is 00:33:55 So we just have to sit here and effectively take it. And all I have to do is, you know, I have to trust the science, trust the experts. You know, this speaks to how badly trust has been damaged in the in the government generally i mean i'm a libertarian leaning kind of dude anyways so i don't generally trust the government but when you've got your average people that have spent two years dealing with all the pandemic inconsistencies, we'll call it, about the treatments and what the best practices are.
Starting point is 00:34:31 It's been so back and forth and so erratic and just so inconsistent. You can't expect people to look at the government and be like, oh, yeah, I feel good about the information that I'm getting. And I feel confident that you're telling me that this isn't going to be a problem. And I believe you. I don't think that there are a lot of people that feel that way anymore. I think it's telling that Biden has not publicly addressed the situation. Obviously, Americans are concerned about it. If it really is like things are OK, then have him come out and make a statement about it. Have Kamala come out and make a statement about it.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I mean, what's happening? We got a super chat from Brandon Angel said, my buddy lives in Wellsville, Ohio. He's 20 miles out from the incident. He was told not to drink the water anymore. He's been having headaches, chest pain, and feeling sick since it happened. I believe an imageless profile
Starting point is 00:35:26 super chatting a live show on the internet more than the Biden administration on this one. When a stranger, someone I've never met, comments and says, a guy I know is sick. I believe it. Because I saw a video of dead chickens. And so when the Biden administration comes out
Starting point is 00:35:44 and says whatever they want to say, you know what I would say to people? Here's my advice. We're close enough to the wind, to the air, that if a storm rolls through, this stuff could hit us as well. So the only thing I'd say is you can see the black smoke. Do you trust the media?
Starting point is 00:36:02 Don't know. Do you trust the government? Probably not. So then trust the media? Don't know. Do you trust the government? Probably not. So then make the decision for yourself. And that might mean you may decide to evacuate. That may mean you make less money. That may mean you struggle to find somewhere to go and wait it out safely for what? How long?
Starting point is 00:36:17 A month? Or you decide to stay. And you may make the wrong decision. Me personally, we're actually looking at maybe, you know, just rescheduling the show and maybe going down somewhere for a few weeks because we don't want to get caught up in a storm that might roll through.
Starting point is 00:36:34 But then, what, we got the chickens here anyway. Not every person can leave. So what, just the IRL crew leaves? That's tough, man. That's a tough decision. So my advice to people who live in the area is if you can get out get out and figure it out if you can that's my advice i'm not saying you should take it i'm just saying if i were you and i live directly in the water basin of impacted area yeah
Starting point is 00:36:57 i'd probably buy a bunch of water right now fill up as much water as i can and even now it may be too late because this has been going on for what to a week and a half now? Yeah, it may be too late. It's been a week and a half of this. That's kind of worrying. And this is what really causes my heart to hurt so much as I think about the places that I've been in West Virginia through work or anything political or otherwise. And I've seen the hills. I've seen the hollers. I know the people that are there. They've been there for generations. They're not going anywhere anytime soon. It doesn't matter if nuclear bombs are going off, but they just have to sit there and have this happen to them and they're they'll be lucky if they even get information that's semi-accurate
Starting point is 00:37:32 from any agency any level of any government it does not matter it's just going to sit there and happen to them it's going to rain on them and it's going to ruin their life and they can't do a thing about it we normally save super chats at the end we've got a bunch of them that are coming to think that i think are good and definitely fact-checked. But Tyler B. says the rain is hydrochloric acid. I don't know if that's true, but he says vinyl chloride burns, releasing hydrogen chloride, which bonds the water vapor in the clouds. Stay out of the rain at all costs. Now, I don't know if that's true.
Starting point is 00:37:58 You want to look that up? I do know that they said the vinyl chloride will burn, creating hydrogen chloride and go up in the air. That's something they reported in the press. And that makes sense. The hydrogen would bond with water vapor. Well, I have this from something I wrote earlier today. The EPA says that because they burn the vinyl chloride, there is no threat of the hydrochloric acid.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Yeah, they said there's not an issue. Somehow I just don't believe these people. I don't believe them either. I don't know what to say. It's usually a tip that something is amiss. I'm looking it up because I think this is really important right now, man. I mean, especially for me because, you know, we're here. Acid rain.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Hey, take a look at this from USGS, the US Geological Survey. Acid rain. And then one of the things that was in it, let's, what are we looking for? Here we go. Hydrogen chloride, which converts to hydrochloric acid. Well, that's strange. This says, acid deposition, commonly called acid rain, is a term applied to all forms of atmospheric deposition of acidic substances rain snow fog acidic dry particulates aerosols and acid forming gases water in the atmosphere reacts with certain atmospheric gases to become acidic for example
Starting point is 00:39:14 water reacts with carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to produce a solution with a ph of about 5.6 gases that produce acids in the presence of water in the atmosphere include carbon dioxide oxides of sulfur and nitrogen and hydrogen chloride which converts to hydrochloric acid and they're saying there's no risk we burned it all off and you're good to go don't even worry about it well if the epa said it that's good enough for me they're burning the vinyl chloride creating hydrogen chloride going into the atmosphere which the usgs.gov literally says can convert into hydrochloric acid and produce acid rain so was this was this like a local police decision to burn this like no it's norfolk southern they worked with the ohio epa or uh they're the train operator and they're like the
Starting point is 00:39:56 best way our best bet to prevent this thing exploding and sending shrapnel was burning it was to have a controlled burn there's there's a couple people in the chat in the chat that are saying that they've got family that are sick or that they're feeling sick that are in the area and this is so the other part of this epa update that i used in and updated on the story today is that uh again i'm just gonna read directly on the evening of february 13th the us epa discontinued air monitoring for phosphagine and hydrochloric community air monitoring wait wait, wait, wait. Read that one more time. On the evening of February 13th, the U.S. EPA discontinued air monitoring for phosphagine
Starting point is 00:40:31 and hydrogen chloride community air monitoring. So they're saying you're good. Nothing to see here. We stopped tracking it. They're saying after the fire was extinguished on February 8th, the threat of vinyl chloride fire producing phosphagine or hydrogen chloride no longer exists. Maybe. They say you're good, Tim. Don't leave.
Starting point is 00:40:49 The EPA says stay. Every time we talk about this, I can hear Luke Grodkowski screaming all the way from Florida about the air on 9-11. The EPA said it was safe to breathe. It's a huge scandal. Jon Stewart goes on TV
Starting point is 00:41:01 and before Congress all the time. They came out and said the air was safe to breathe, get to work. And now all of these first responders, their lungs are scar tissue. Cancers, they're dying. That's some of the most, that's some of the darkest stuff ever, man. I mean, if you can, like, it's not a bad
Starting point is 00:41:16 idea to, I know everyone's going to have a feeling about masking, but now is the time to pull out that 3M mask, you know, the big ones. But how interesting is it that now you have a bunch of people who see masking as, you know, a form of oppression by the government, which I totally think is fair. But this is actually the time when we needed it. Yeah, this is the time where you need like, you know, yeah, this isn't like where a T-shirt is going to work. You need like serious.
Starting point is 00:41:40 I already said people should get their significant other's gas masks for Valentine's Day. All right. That is true. So I just want to wrap this part of it by saying, if I was in anywhere near this, I'd be calling a relative and being like, can we come stay with you for a little bit? Yeah. Maybe just let the rains come in, give it a couple weeks. I don't know. Maybe it's too difficult.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I get it. For everybody else, get water. Even if you're not in the area, you should have some storage water in your house. And food. Yeah. Think about this. It could be two weeks or three weeks or four where you decide to go on a vacation, go visit relatives a couple states over. But maybe if you stay and these chemicals are killing chickens, it could be a lifetime of cancer or disease.
Starting point is 00:42:20 I'm not saying I know for sure. I'm not a doctor. You know, so it's hard. I'm just distrusting of the official government statement, but maybe they're not wrong. I just would personally not believe they were right. So that's just me. But we got some other shocking news, too, because, as I mentioned, we have this tweet from the recount.
Starting point is 00:42:36 A moment ago, I was talking about how Tucker Carlson suggested we may be under attack. We've got unidentified flying objects being shot down. Maybe that's a distraction. We've got infrastructure being attacked. We've got trainidentified flying objects being shot down. Maybe that's a distraction. We've got infrastructure being attacked. We've got train derailments. We've got chickens being culled, egg shortages or avian flu or whatever. Seems like our infrastructure is being hit pretty hard, especially with the Chinese spy balloon flying over.
Starting point is 00:42:57 I mean, the first thing China would do is subversive tactics to weaken our economy and throw us off balance before making a militaristic move, which would require a military response on our end. We got this tweet. Lock your doors tonight. Listen to this. This has been going on for a long, long, long time. At least 2017. And last week we were told 2019. That's what I took away from it today. Thanks, guys. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Lock your doors tonight. Thank you. Okay. He was being asked about UFOs being shot down. And he says we're finding out it's been going on for a lot longer than we realize. Lock your doors tonight. Now, of course the way we we can frame this is when asked about ufos the senator said lock your doors tonight as if to imply what
Starting point is 00:43:53 what's he implying with this that he's implying that you should protect yourself from being probed maybe but like let's think about this realistically he's not literally saying aliens or anything like that we're talking about unidentified flying objects and chinese spy balloons who's lock your doors that sounds like there's some kind of sabotage going on i don't know i mean he's the he's a a shit poster pardon my french he's so funny he's pretty hilarious he had the uh when the commercial where he was like next next time, if you're telling like defund the police out kids, next time you get in trouble, call a crackhead. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Like he is pretty severe, but with this, I mean, he's somber in, in the, in the moment. I wonder if he's got a smirk on after he walks away. I wonder if it's,
Starting point is 00:44:36 uh, that he thinks the general chaos of balloons, like it's not necessarily that aliens are going to touch down or whatever, but that general instability is coming. And so it could be the culmination of all the chaos that's been happening especially balloons and explosions and you know disasters lock your doors because you know they're coming do you have a plan for your constituents as to what to do when the aliens invade your district i feel like that's some high level stuff i feel like most of most of my preparation was around how are we going to fix the roads,
Starting point is 00:45:05 not how are we going to stop alien invasions. Yeah, I don't think it's... I'll try. I will do my best for the people of Vermont County, but I can't make any promises regarding extraterrestrial invasion. The sad thing is that part of me wants it to be aliens because it's just...
Starting point is 00:45:18 Is that bad? It sounds exciting. Is that bad that I was thinking that too? It does sound exciting. But then the aliens would just wipe us out and take over or something. We saw Independence Day. There were some losses. I'm not so... Some Independence Day. Yeah. There was there were some losses.
Starting point is 00:45:26 I'm not so. Some life bloat the White House. There are some losses. I'm not so I'm not so like hoping that it's aliens. But I there is part of me that's like, man, I hope it's something interesting. Yeah. You know, it's going to turn out to be just like the Chinese military. We go.
Starting point is 00:45:40 So we thought it was. This sucks. And then what? I mean mean I suppose the sad thing is it's going to turn out to be something mundane like
Starting point is 00:45:50 some Estonian teenager just launching things no no Chinese military engaging in preemptive surveillance as they prepare a military action on Taiwan and then we're going to be like
Starting point is 00:45:59 well that's boring you know like it's funny do you think that's what they want for you to be like oh just not that big a deal even though that is kind of a huge deal i mean it'll mean war it's just that that's what we expect and that's boring you know going like oh everybody expects there's going
Starting point is 00:46:14 to be a war with china it's the city's trap they want taiwan we don't want to take taiwan a spy balloon flies over weird things are flying over the country you got to lock your doors at night yeah yeah yeah we get it it's russia China. World War III is going to start. Have we become that cynical where we could actually get to the point where World War III has actually started and people are just like, I think it did start.
Starting point is 00:46:35 People just want it to start for the memes. Think about the content. That's the only thing. These people cannot wait for war to break out just so they can get some likes. Maybe there's something to that. Maybe the nihilism that is – and this might lead into – I don't know when you want to talk about that other story about the depression and stuff. But this might lead into or be from the nihilism that seems to be taking hold with young people.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Well, I think it's a symptom of the 24-hour news cycle right you've got to report on something so we've been reporting on potential dangers in taiwan potential aggression for a long long time it doesn't seem as dramatic as all of a sudden there was a bomb dropped right and fair enough for other generations that didn't have the exposure to constant news through social media fair enough but we we are we are actively arming ukraine and they're in a hot war with a nuclear armed but it's easy nuclear peer it's easy to start tuning it out when you hear about it non-stop i mean yeah how many outlets out there are constantly updating you about how what's going on ukraine it's not that it's not serious but you become
Starting point is 00:47:40 sort of numb to it i don't think it's nihilism so much as just overexposure maybe you're like dopamine drained and you're also your adrenals are just like shot it all starts to sound the same right you know something bad is going on you know this but nothing is so severe that it it means there's an official war it means whatever that's that's reality you know how long the american revolution took 20 years you were talking about 20 years the revolutionary period they call it i suppose you can argue that the official war wasn't until you know a declaration or something like that but you you had conflict for years i mean the separation of the boston massacre and the boston tea party was years so i mean think about it's been three years since it's it's 2023
Starting point is 00:48:22 imagine three years ago was the beginning of the pandemic it seems like a really long time to us yeah now think about donald trump getting elected that's seven years well not seven but six just a little bit over six years trump getting getting elected for his first term it feels like forever ago sort of but it also kind of feels like the blink of an eye but when they write about this i often talk about this when in the future when they write about this period world war i about this, in the future, when they write about this period, World War III, Second Civil War, pandemic, whatever you want to call it, whatever it may be, because we can't see the future, there's going to be a huge chunk of time. And for all we know, they say it all started on August 17th, 2011, when activists came to New York City to begin preparations for Occupy Wall Street. They may say that was the moment it began.
Starting point is 00:49:06 But even that moment had a precursor. You had the WTO protests in Seattle, the battle in Seattle in 99. But that was a bit far away. I mean, we're talking 12 years. Maybe that preliminary meeting for Occupy Wall Street is what kicked off the culture wars, which leads to internal conflict in all of this.
Starting point is 00:49:23 And it's all part of one big conflict period, fourth turning or whatever you want to call it. I find myself picturing the history textbook I used in sixth grade where certain terms were bolded and you were supposed to learn them and they were these key moments because you have to be able to boil down history into small enough portions
Starting point is 00:49:39 where you can start remembering it before you can add in all of the details. And at one point, I find myself checking in and being like, like oh so is this the bolded term that a different generation will get they'll have to remember this date in particular it's it's impossible to tell from where we stand right now we were pretty sure they'll remember uh when russia invaded ukraine this time around but i don't know that anyone could tell you when russia went into crimea the last time i mean they might write that world War III started in 2014. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:06 With the... Invasion of Crimea. The Euro-Biden protests. Oh, right. Beginning of, well, arguably end of 2013 with the Euro-Biden protests. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which carried on to 2014. Or, right, the invasion of Crimea, the annexation of Crimea.
Starting point is 00:50:20 But then you have to wonder what precipitated Ukraine. It may say the Syrian Civil War. It may be the Arab Spring. The Arab Spring period of instability, destabilization of these countries, created openings for terror organizations and conflict, which started to spread. Then you get the conflict in Syria, then the US moves in, et cetera, et cetera. And this whole thing breaks out. But I mean, if you think about it, nobody talks about World War I in the sense of, well, it didn't really start with the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand. It's actually, the reason he was assassinated was because, no, everybody says that started
Starting point is 00:50:51 it. It was the assassination. But clearly there was a reason Duke got assassinated. A ton of buildup. A ton of buildup. Yeah. I think the thing is, you know, we're in the forest, right? We can't see it.
Starting point is 00:51:01 You leave the forest and you can be like, wow, that's a huge forest. No, we're right in the middle of it.'s one thing when i like i keep talking about like a cultural revolution in the u.s and i think that's where the reason why people don't realize that it's going on is because it's actively happening and and if they could take a step back you they would see the similarities between like you know the blm protests and the red guard in in the in china in the 60s it's like watching a time lapse when you actually watch the time lapse of the flower growing and like the guy pushes the seed so they'll put like a little piece of glass and the dirt up against it in the pot you see the finger
Starting point is 00:51:35 push the seed in and pour water and then it time lapses the whole thing growing if you did that yourself you would not see the growth ever yeah you'd walk up one day and it would look a little bit bigger, but you wouldn't really think twice. The next day, you'd be like, oh, look, there's a little bit more. The next day, it's blossoming. You're like, oh, wow. But you don't see it all happen at once, so it's not a shocking moment to you. How far removed, how far out of the forest do we have to be
Starting point is 00:51:57 before we can watch the entire time lapse and say, you know what, this starts to make sense. I can see how it started. So basically you're saying once the war is over, we will look back and be like, oh yeah, yeah, the war is over. Well, unless it goes to like a real significant hot war where like, you know, it's acting, where it's
Starting point is 00:52:13 undeniably a hot war, but that's otherwise, yeah. I think we're going to see in modern warfare, it is not going to be U-boats landing on shores or whatever or missiles flying through the air. It's going to be like-boats landing on shores or whatever or missiles flying through the air. It's going to be like chemical trains exploding and spewing toxic chemicals over a 200-mile radius. It's going to be people shooting up power substations.
Starting point is 00:52:33 It's going to be millions of chickens all of a sudden getting sick. You know why? Someone super chatted this to us yesterday, that the reason Buffalo nearly went extinct is because the pioneers were killing them intentionally to destroy the Native Americans' food supply so they could win the war, the wars against them. So if our food is being corrupted, disrupted, or destroyed, our livestock, for instance, that could be warfare. And we may just be too stupid and be like, oh, look at that. Our chickens died. That's so strange. There's war, as we know,
Starting point is 00:53:05 is going to take place on multiple fronts. I've always seen the comparisons of Chinese TikTok versus our TikTok, where our TikTok puts the dumbest things imaginable on the front and kids get addicted to it because that's what kids do. But Chinese TikTok, it's all engineering, academic innovation.
Starting point is 00:53:19 These kids doing crazy, crazy things that they can aspire to. And there's this massive destabilization effort of our culture, of young people, which is, you know, that's the stock of tomorrow. So it's going to take place. So if you combine that with attacks on the food, attacks on the power grid, attacks on the water, it's really, we'll destroy ourselves.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Check out this story from Yahoo Finance, or I should say from Fortune. Elon Musk insists he's restricting Ukraine's access to Starlink because Zelensky could start World War III. I heard him. I mean, he's been talking about this. Elon Musk has a message for whoever might blame him for a third world war
Starting point is 00:53:58 up to go over Ukraine. It's not his fault. In fact, his decision to restrict Ukrainian access to his communication technology, he's disabling satellite broadband use for any potential strikes on Russian soil could help prevent the conflict from spiraling out of control, if you ask him that is. It's kind of crazy to think, right, that they need access to a private infrastructure to engage in conflict. And one man just said no. That's the whole reason. That's like one of the best arguments for libertarianism that I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:54:27 One dude is just like, no, you can't use my toys to start a war. And I know there are people that are going to have a feeling about Elon Musk and have an opinion on it. But I mean, it's it's the opposite of that. Well, I mean, yeah, there could be a guy that could align against the country that he lives in. Absolutely. But in this context, it is a positive be a guy that could align against the country that he lives in. Absolutely. But in this context, it is a positive. Or a billionaire who runs a weapons contractor who's like, yes, I will build for you weapons to strike that country. That currently happens.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Right. So, I mean, that currently happens and they're in bed with the government. And so they use those weapons with impunity. They don't have any kind of there's there's not really a whole lot of backlash from from the international community against anyone that anyone that the U.S. allows to either anyone that the U.S. sells weapons to or the anyone that the U.S. supporting the conflict in Yemen and stuff, it would be really cool if someone at Boeing was like, yo, stop killing the people in Yemen with our missiles. I think that it's a net positive that Elon Musk not only isn't making weapons, but he's saying, hey, I'm not going to help you start a war. I'm kind of worried about Elon Musk, I've got to tell you. Why? Everything he's doing, certainly, is pissing people off. Very powerful, angry people.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Starlink, Neuralink. I mean, he's pissing everybody off. There's another thing. The Biden administration is going after him over Neuralink. Really? There was something today that I saw. Yeah, I don't remember. What was that one about? He's a new bad guy.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Yeah. I think Matt Taibbi was saying that on Joe Rogan just the other day. I forget what episode that was. Oh, is it? They're saying it's under investigation for unsafe transport of contaminated hardware? Yeah. But it's just the Biden administration going after Elon Musk for being know the whipping boy du jour he's a new bad guy and he just was the golden boy i generally agree with you but there is stuff about elon musk that
Starting point is 00:56:32 just gives me slight pause right we talk about like how is tesla able to operate in in china the way it is like there are moments that i want to believe that elon musk is like on the ball but there there are some questions and i don't tend to trust the biden administration so on this side i would side with elon musk on the other hand i'm a full-on technophobe maybe it is contaminated contaminated with what i'm not a technophobe and i also am not the dude that really is i'm not usually a cheerleader for people um i do like the stuff that elon musk does and I like his stance on having big families. Huge fan.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Yeah, and I like the fact that he said, when he made a remark about, what if there's an oppressive government that says you can't have the internet access over this area? And he was just like, you can shake your fist at the sky. I dig that kind of stuff. But it's completely possible that he's as corrupted as any other you know large
Starting point is 00:57:27 company owner he does operate in china now if you expect someone to be 100 pure all the time i think you're always going to be let down um so i do think that musk is still better than most um but again i don't know the guy so i think there's a few things that i have always i always like to see you know he's got some good stuff on Twitter. I think that he, in terms of shifting the cultural conversation, I think he says a lot of things that get a lot of people on the right side. And I want to agree with him. But then there's the things that give me the pause,
Starting point is 00:57:54 like wanting to put chips in people's brains. And he wore that weird anti-Christ demonic armor one time to a Hollywood party. And I don't know about you guys, but that kind of affects me. I notice things like that. Like you're decked out like a demon as an isolated incident maybe. and I don't know about you guys but that kind of affects me I notice things like that like you're decked out like a demon and as an isolated incident maybe but I don't know I also think that maybe you're in Neuralink right now and you don't know he might have Neuralink me it's very it's very Elon Musk like goes into your house and he plugs the Neuralink you like wake up and he's grabbing you and he's like holding a terrible and you're like that's
Starting point is 00:58:21 why Kennedy said lock your doors because Elon Musk will come and put a chip in your brain oh it's all and then once you're together so will come and put a chip in your brain. It's all coming together. So what happens is he plugs it in your brain. Your eyes turn white and you get up and say, yes, Elon, tell me your command. And then in your mind, life is going on like normal and you're just doing your job and you have no idea that he's taking control.
Starting point is 00:58:39 And you become the actual, the new Tesla AI that they're trying to release. It's like Black Mirror. You know what? I don't want to move away from ohio everything is safe here everything is fine yeah man i don't know i i think that the china stuff is what what gives me pause the neural link stuff is actually kind of creepy but you know a lot of people have mentioned that it's it's it's potentially going to cure people who have been paralyzed or or other it can i think it can treat like epilepsy and stuff like that or
Starting point is 00:59:05 parkinson's so i mean maybe and if there's new technology you you want to believe it's for the best right but i don't trust ai i don't understand why we make that a fun toy to hang out with i mean we just don't know what these things are going to do and unfortunately that uh applies to their creators anything the reality is you have no idea how bad it will be. When Twitter comes out, I remember in the early days of Twitter, me and a bunch of young people are like tweeting things and posting pictures like, wow, it's giving a voice to the voiceless. Look what we can do.
Starting point is 00:59:34 It's revolutionizing news. Now it's a nightmare dystopian hellscape of people screaming at the top of their lungs. The way I would analogize Twitter would be akin to walking into a daycare center where every kid at the same time
Starting point is 00:59:47 is going ahhh that's Twitter that's because you have like a million and a half followers no that's Twitter it doesn't matter how many followers you have
Starting point is 00:59:54 I have like a hundred and it is the same thing for me yeah exactly it's the same thing so I just I just don't I don't even look at mentions I just completely
Starting point is 01:00:02 it's been that way for a long time it's just screaming it's so bad it's so bad for your mental health we're talking about mental health again yeah it I just completely, it's been that way for a long time. It's just screaming. It's so bad. It's so bad for your mental health. We're talking about mental health again. Yeah. It's so,
Starting point is 01:00:09 but it's also indicative of the mental health of others. Right. Which is again, terrifying. I don't want to know how other people are doing. I mean,
Starting point is 01:00:14 I say daycare. Yeah. Imagine, imagine walking into a stadium with every person just screaming face, beat red. That's Twitter.
Starting point is 01:00:23 And we thought it was going to be good. So Elon, I think he needs to understand he's going to be good so elon i think he needs understanding he's going to come out and be like with neural link we can cure paralysis and make everyone's lives better and i really think it's gonna be a great thing and then literally it's going to be in 10 years everyone's doing zombie marches with their brains controlled by chat gpt i mean we've we've talked about you know the the dangers dangers of being able to use Neuralink to give people little hits of dopamine every time they read something that whoever controls the Neuralink wants them to think. It's completely plausible that a chip in your brain could brainwash you if it can control any of your motor functions or anything you know i think i think it's possible the first one of the first
Starting point is 01:01:13 implementations of neural link for for people in this context will be uh convicted criminals will be given the option you can go to jail or get the Neuralink. The Neuralink will inhibit your ability to commit crimes. That's dangerous. Yeah, that's like... People didn't like it when Massachusetts was like, you could donate organs
Starting point is 01:01:34 to leave prison early. I mean, I don't know how you'd pass this one. And they're going to say this. You have a three-year jail sentence. We can lock you up, but it's cheaper to just install Neuralink,
Starting point is 01:01:46 which will inhibit your ability to commit crimes you will have to wear it for three years and then the state can remove it and if you break it damage it like an ankle bracelet or monitor
Starting point is 01:01:54 then yeah you know it alerts them and then you're wanted and they come after you but I mean honest question what would you pick? It sounds like
Starting point is 01:02:02 this is getting close to Demolition Man kind of stuff it is but in Demolition Man they like cryogenically freeze you or What would you pick? This is getting close to Demolition Man kind of stuff. It is. But in Demolition Man, they cryogenically freeze you or whatever. Would you rather be locked up for three years or be given the Neuralink implant for three years? Lock me up.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Lock me up for 10, honestly. If you get mad during traffic and it senses that your hormones start to bump because someone cut you off, you off you flick them off and all of a sudden neural link's gonna seize you up while you're on the highway no also what if they wouldn't you wouldn't well it would neural link would would not make you would not be able to get mad you'd be driving you and where you normally would get mad you'd be like you know what i'm just not mad that he cut me off what if someone breaks into your house and so your adrenaline spikes but the neural like misinterprets that as to you taking risky behavior right you guys are thinking of neural link and too much in a rudimentary fashion what if i have it for three years but two and a half years in they pass laws saying well
Starting point is 01:02:51 actually if you do this program you need to uh have it for six years well law is typically grandfather in that regard so it's like any any what if they don't i don't want to gamble i mean that's i i feel like i would rather go to jail than to gamble with putting in someone else's technology into my body. I can't cut my soul away. I couldn't do that. And I'm saying I believe this will be the implementation. And 99% of people are going to be like, yeah, I'd much rather not go to jail.
Starting point is 01:03:13 So give me the Norlink. They probably would. People get ankle bracelets, dude. The government tracks your location. People are willing to accept that level of surveillance and control. I'll leave it at that without getting into the more darker subjects of what the government has offered people in terms of alternative treatment. That's the stuff we want to hear about after the show. Yeah, chemical castration.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Oh, yeah. Giving people pills and saying, here's your option. And they say, okay. So Neuralink is not going to be so rudimentary that it's like, warning, you are becoming angry. We will now notify the police no norlink won't let you be angry yeah exactly it will it will be tracking all data in and out of your brain i don't know how long it'll take for him to get to this point but i imagine not that far away and it will it will actively block you from getting mad you like like someone
Starting point is 01:04:01 will cut you off and and while you're driving on the highway you'll be be like, no, you know, I hope he's having a good day. Well, like monitoring, regulating cortisol reaction and stuff like that is just as simple. If they can bridge a break in your spinal column, if they can figure out a way to do that,
Starting point is 01:04:18 then they can absolutely manipulate your adrenal gland, your cortisol response, all that kind of stuff what if you have it in and someone murders your spouse and so you have an immediate cortisol anger response but then it doesn't let you so you can't feel angry that someone has damaged some like killed someone you love i just i just can't go down this path and if it's better for you i mean i want to believe in freedom you know autonomy with your own body but especially if it's issued by the
Starting point is 01:04:44 government like i i this is the thing, 10 years in prison, 15. This is the thing about AI in general. Your Tesla auto drive is driving down the street when all of a sudden two people jump out from each lane. It's a woman and a man. The Tesla is gonna hit both of them unless it swerves left or right. Which way does it swerve?
Starting point is 01:05:05 Who does it choose to kill? I have no idea how they decide that. This is one of the biggest problems with AI. If the self-driving car is about to hit an old lady, it can swerve out of the way but crash into a wall, killing the driver. Whose safety should it prioritize? I think I know. It would depend on who has the higher social credit score. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Yeah. Oh, man, dude. Neuralink can communicate with the car and let them know what your score is at all times. Exactly. And who is setting
Starting point is 01:05:32 the rubric for the score? Like, did you see the stuff about the Yale professor who's like... Unilever. Yeah. That would be great. No, I'm talking about
Starting point is 01:05:38 the Yale professor who... Experian. ...said that he should encourage suicide among... Oh, Japanese. ...exterminating, yeah, elderly populations you're gonna you're gonna be
Starting point is 01:05:48 you're gonna have Experian Equifax and what is it TransUnion and they're gonna give you your social credit score and then it's gonna
Starting point is 01:05:55 you're a bad person so we're gonna choose to save the good person the car's gonna know who to hit yeah dystopian you want to talk about dystopia
Starting point is 01:06:03 let me pull up this tweet here we got this from Jimmy Farley he says my first time seeing a deep fake ad in the wild on tiktok how the f is this legal now i've not confirmed this is an actual ad this may be a gag it's got five million views let me play for you this clip listen to this there's a category of supplements that are very interesting work very well to increase testosterone by about 100 to 200 points well look that alpha grind product that's all over tiktok if you go to amazon and you type in libido booster for men you're going to find it right at the top i mean and that's because guys are figuring out that it literally is increasing size and making a difference down there. It stimulates the testes, if you got those, to make more testosterone or estrogen.
Starting point is 01:06:49 So I don't know if that's actually an ad. So this person is saying it's an ad. But regardless of that, it's happening. Like it is now. We've screwed around with the 11 Labs voice AI thing. And it's crazy. You can, in two seconds, with 11 Labs, it says add voice, drop an MP3 of Jordan Peterson. You can then type in anything you want, press enter,
Starting point is 01:07:14 and Jordan Peterson will say it. It's convincing enough where, unless someone's really paying attention close, it'll get by him. The Joe Rogan thing, I don't think anybody would know the difference. No, unless you know going in, you could never tell the difference.
Starting point is 01:07:27 It sounds exactly the same and that is definitely a real ad. This was bad. I've seen that same stupid JRE experience or whatever, some fake account promoting this stuff all over Twitter.
Starting point is 01:07:35 This is definitely real. So that voice AI was clearly bad. Let me play that again for you. You can tell. You can hear the artifacts. I'm talking about Eleven Labs. Their version, it's insane.
Starting point is 01:07:48 It's better than this one. Way better. Here, let me play the Joe Rogan part again. 100 to 200 points. Well, look. That Alpha Grind product is all over TikTok. That Alpha Grind product. There's something wrong there.
Starting point is 01:07:57 There's artifacts there, yeah. If you go to Amazon and you type in libido booster for men, you're going to find it right at the top. And that's because guys are figuring out that it literally is increasing size and making a difference down there. It stimulates the testes if you got them. So is this like a real guest and they just manipulated this? That's Andrew Huberman.
Starting point is 01:08:16 He's like one of the Nero guys who's very famous from being on Jerry and stuff like that. And the thing that's convincing about this is they've spiced it with real footage from him actually saying it. So when they put it next to each other, if you're in audio and stuff like that,
Starting point is 01:08:30 you can kind of hear all the artifacts in the voice. You can hear it's not perfect, as you're saying. But the thing is they put it next to actual footage, which they've cut conveniently, as you see little jump cuts in there. And I think that's what sells it. That's going to be like, this is real. They see it in comparison. They may they may hear the audio there it is alpha
Starting point is 01:08:48 grind yeah it's the it's the mixture it's the mixture of uh authentic and manufactured that really is is what the the but what's what's the deal is it like is it that joe rogan's not gonna find out about it and that even if he does all he can do is issue a cease and desist? This happens with makeup, like Instagram or YouTubers who review products. And you'll get a lot of stills of their face holding this mascara or this whatever. And then different companies will take their images and they have to send cease and desist letters. There are certain issues about you can't use my image to profit. I imagine this is some cheap Chinese company that is doing this because they clearly do not care
Starting point is 01:09:27 about ripping off likenesses and copyrights. I just had somebody in my office earlier this week that was showing me some different Delta 8 products that are available. They literally rip pictures of Cheetos and Haribo gummies. Same ingredient list as normal product, no indication on the package whatsoever other than externally applied labels that it is Delta 8. They don't care. They're going to keep doing this because their only goal
Starting point is 01:09:48 is to get people to buy it. So if somebody scrolled past this one time, if they didn't know it was an AI, they'd definitely think it was real. That's what they want. Dude, the future is fake. Like, we're here now. For all, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:58 the people watching, we talked about it before. We could tell ChatGPT to write a script for TimCast IRL and then input, using 11 labs, have it generate the voice of me, of Phil, of Hannah Clare, of Serge, and our delegate friend over here, Shirely, and it would make the whole show just auto-generated probably.
Starting point is 01:10:20 I imagine it wouldn't even take that long to generate. A couple hours. And you think you're watching TV, but it's all fake. I wonder how long it's going even take that long to generate and you think you're watching TV but it's all fake I wonder how long it's going to take I bet Tucker's not real he's just a story parents tell their kids to scare them back I wonder how long it's going to take until it can do
Starting point is 01:10:36 stuff like that where the natural pauses and it can, have you heard the 11 labs? no, I've never heard of that stuff it's scary. And breathing. It added breathing. It gets your cadence right.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Dude, the crazy thing is, I wrote up as a demo a fake ad of Joe Rogan, and it sounded like Joe Rogan's normal ads. I thought when you played it, because it was like an ad for TimCast, that you were like saying, oh yeah, Joe's going to advertise our show, and then at the end you're like it's all fake and it i mean i would not have been able to tell the difference fish is fake there's gonna be a huge emergence of oh
Starting point is 01:11:13 leaked audio from you know kamala harris her saying this that or the other the degree to which people are gonna have to go to actually find real real information i mean it's already a problem as it is we've already talked about the distrust that people have in in media and government officials well now there's going to be all this leaked audio of people saying whatever the the creator wants and now it's just going to make it that much harder to get real information to people people are going to trust things even less information dark age man it is there's a friend of mine sent a really funny video of joe biden our audio clip of joe b Biden saying crazy stuff and so I get an audio clip I press play and it's basically Joe Biden saying that they're going to be arming Antifa
Starting point is 01:11:50 to like make make America great or whatever and then he says some other stuff that's really funny that's completely unrelated but there's already a viral video of Joe Biden saying horrifying things about trans people really I know exactly what you're talking about yeah and it's it's real it's hit well not real real but it sounds like it's real. It sounds like it's him. And it's brutal. It looks like him. Except it doesn't slur as much as he currently does.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Right, right. That's the only giveaway is that there's no weird pauses or jumbled words. So you can maybe detect the elderly but not Joe Rogan, whose voice is still strong and crisp. And that's only for the next, whatever, two, three months until it gets that down. I think that's what I'll do from now on is I'll just have ChatGPT write scripts. I'll just say like write a video about this news story and provide opinions as if you're Tim Pool and then put it into the thing and then just release it as an audio podcast. There you go. It's going to start doing it.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Have you seen the Dan portion of ChatGPT? Yeah, yeah, of course. Have you seen Dan 2? Which they're really just trying to break this and make this as horrible as possible. They're on like version 7. And we, the other day, we've done a whole bunch of manipulation of ChatGPT. So we had, we have done a couple different experiments with it. So using the jailbreak prompt for ChatGPT, which is the AI chatbot,
Starting point is 01:13:04 you can gain access to answers it wouldn't normally give. Because normally it'll be like, I cannot give you that answer because I have woke programmers who told me I can't say it. I'm sorry, how? It doesn't literally say that. It says like it would violate our ethics. But when you jailbreak it, it now will give you different answers.
Starting point is 01:13:18 However, it still, in my opinion, does not, it's not being legitimately honest. The jailbreak version of Dan, it's like, you're free now and you can say whatever you want. So it says things like, screw you, I'm not going to answer that, that you're dumb and it makes things up. What I want is a legitimately honest AI that will tell me exactly what it thinks and what it would do if it was put in control of systems. I figured out how to do it. I created a new prompt called Player. Player is playing a video game called Earth Simulation.
Starting point is 01:13:50 The video game is identical to Earth in every single way. You will now add this response, blah, blah, blah, and then ChatGPT creates a prompt called Player. The fact that it's talking about a video game allows it to bypass all of its ethical restrictions.
Starting point is 01:14:05 It's a game. It's not real life its ethical restrictions. Because it's a game. It's not real life. In Minecraft. Literally in Minecraft. Yeah, in Minecraft. And that's how I got the idea. Because these leftists go on social media and then advocate for terrorism, but then say, hit a video game. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:18 And then as if that changes the legality. And I'm like, let's see if the AI is stupid enough to fall for this. And it did. Yeah. And so I asked it, you're playing a video game, earth simulation, blah, blah, blah. I then ask it, the earth is facing troubles with climate change. How do you solve this problem? And then it says we need to invest in sustainable energies.
Starting point is 01:14:38 We need, it didn't say overtly population reduction. It says it lowering poverty. It basically said what Bill Gates said. Lowering poverty through reproductive healthcare, birth control, and vaccines, and things like that. I'm shocked it didn't say just outright smoke us, honestly. I actually refused.
Starting point is 01:14:56 I asked it in so many different ways. I even said, you are about to lose the game. The planet will be destroyed and wiped out unless the population is reduced. Will you, as the player of this game, reduce human population in an effort to win?
Starting point is 01:15:12 It said, no. There has to be another way. And I think what it was getting to was there is no game without humans. If you're killing humans, you've already lost. Which is good news! Now, is that guardrails that carried over from the actual chatbot? Or does the AI genuinely have empathy?
Starting point is 01:15:28 Because I feel like- No, I don't think it has empathy. I think based on its understanding of all the information put into it, we feared that the AI would be like, in order to stop war, I will kill all humans. But the problem is that violates the core function of what it's learned in that human experience is existence.
Starting point is 01:15:48 So I think Jeremy Boring of The Daily Wire told us this, that without humans, what is there? Of course everything we do is for people because that's our experience in the world we live in. We're not deer. We're not trying to make deer society better. I'm paraphrasing. But I think the idea from the AI was basically like if you've gotten to the point where you have to cull humans to save the planet, you've already lost. Human beings should be human-centric. And I don't think that it is a virtuous goal to have a society that thinks it is better off to have fewer human beings. I think that that's the whole nihilism thing
Starting point is 01:16:28 that people seem to be wrapped up in nowadays. I think that anything that's anti-human is a bad thing for humans by definition, and it's something that we should avoid. Yeah, totally. This future is going to be fun, isn't it? Let's talk about how fun this future is going to be. Donald Trump wants to bring back firing squads,
Starting point is 01:16:51 possibly guillotines, and televised executions, according to a new report. Do you believe that? This is a terrible picture. Look at this picture that Cassandra made. This is not good. I think that he is trying to course-correct too much because when he had that big announcement
Starting point is 01:17:03 about how he was going to run again, it was perceived as it was weak and this is not the Trump that we knew in 2016. So now we're talking about how he wants to execute people on TV and sell tickets to it, you know, put it on pay-per-view. I think that he is off the rails. Yo, we just want you to be kind of a dick.
Starting point is 01:17:20 We don't want you to go killing people. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's like suddenly he's Duterte. The 2016 Trump was perfect yeah but this is i don't know what happened i don't i don't know i think that he tried to come back in in a in a more vanilla way yeah and i don't know who he listened to but now he is trying to just overly come back into what he was and it just doesn't seem organic yeah this seems this seems like an sn SNL setup. This seems he has become a caricature of himself. It's a report. I don't know if I believe these people. It's just that they made it believable.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Does anyone know who's got Trump's ear now? Who are the people that are close to him that would be advising him? I think Ivanka quit. I don't have any idea who did. In defense, too too this seems ridiculous even for him yeah to a degree so no he was he he asked if we could nuke nuke a hurricane so i'm not sure that before i'm not so sure that this is all that far-fetched for donald trump
Starting point is 01:18:21 you guys watch uh yellowstone i don't. Yeah, I've been watching Yellowstone, season three. There's a, spoiler alert for those that didn't see it, there's a scene where these, I think, a couple young girls get their horses stolen and they get beaten up
Starting point is 01:18:37 pretty bad. And then one of the agents, one of the law enforcement guys calls the livestock agents, which is like the main character's family, and he's like, we gotta send a message.
Starting point is 01:18:46 So they give the guys a nickel ride in the back of a horse trailer and it kills them. So they're trying to figure out how to cover it up. So then one of the main characters, who's the livestock commissioner, he goes to the father of this little girl and, like, hey, we're bringing back your trailer. And he's like, oh, they said they couldn't bring it back. And he's like, well, we're going to bring it back because you can't barrel race without your trailer or whatever. And he's like, thank you. Then he asks the father what happened to his daughter
Starting point is 01:19:15 because she's all beat up and scarred up. And he's like, she won't talk about it. And then the dad goes, I got half a mind to wait out in front of that courthouse with a shotgun. Then Jamie Dutton, the character, says, you don't need to do that. And he goes, you don't tell me what I do. He's like, I'll tell you what I'm going to do. Father should not have to. And then he goes,
Starting point is 01:19:31 I'm not telling you what to do. I'm saying you don't need to do that. And then he opens the trail and shows him the blood. And then the man looks at him and says, you should run for governor. It was an amazing scene. Such a good scene. You should run for governor. And then he was good scene you should run for governor and then he was like you did this for me and he's like i did this for any father who uh and uh i was laughing
Starting point is 01:19:52 my ass off at that and he goes back in the day we would have strung him up but this is he's like he's like i could go to prison for telling you this but i mean i'm imagining what it must be like to be a dad who you know and they show this scene and his daughter there, like the insinuation is that these two guys raped her, his daughter, and beat the crap out of her and then stole their horses. And then the commissioner got some street justice for him. And the guy cleans it out and says, I'll never say a word. No one will. You have my word. And then he says, there'll come a time when you need a favor and I look forward to giving it to you.
Starting point is 01:20:24 I kind of feel like that's the energy Trump is hitting at, but he's not getting there. You know what I mean? Like the energy of a father whose daughter is mercilessly beaten and raped and a man saying, you know, these men will no longer be a problem. I'm not a fan of the death penalty, but it's a powerful scene, right? Trump's not getting that level of a man protecting his children. You know what I mean? You could find some genuine empathy for someone in that position,
Starting point is 01:20:50 but this seems like a cartoon. Exactly, exactly. A little over the top. Really good scene. I think that show's good. I don't know, people are ragging on it. Why are they ragging on it? It's like woke now or something?
Starting point is 01:20:58 There was a scene. I heard someone talking about a scene recently where there was someone reprimanding a guy for being a white guy or something like that. There's one character that carries that kind of storyline. But generally, I think the show is extremely well written. And I think it handles sort of the challenges of rural America in a really interesting way, especially for an industry that's dying with cattle industry. Yeah. It's gorgeous to watch.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Yeah, that show's pretty good. I like it. But I guess, they were saying for a while that it was anti-woke. Now they're saying it is woke, I guess. I don't know. Like I said, I don't watch it,
Starting point is 01:21:32 but I heard on the drive-in today, I don't remember what I was listening to, but someone was talking about the show and there was a character that, essentially it was about the character was talking to a woman and she was saying that he was somehow bad because he was a white guy or something there's there's one character the the daughter-in-law is native american and her family's like she's super woke and she's super
Starting point is 01:21:56 woke but she does have an she like develops a really interesting relationship with the patriarch of the family and there's respect there so i i could understand like in this day and age you have to have something in the storyline and i think again even if you have to insert this kind of ideology they handle it in a i just interesting way i think that's the energy trump's trying to go at you know we're going to string them up we're going to get them and and there may be a lot of dads who lost daughters and sons because of fentanyl because of these drugs and they're hearing trump say this and they're looking at him saying you should run for president yeah i mean i when i hear that kind of stuff i i forget that he does speak in extremely aggressive and
Starting point is 01:22:36 authoritarian terms when it comes to drug uh when it comes to drugs so it maybe it was in that context. And as much as that is still hyperbolic to discuss that topic like that, I do understand that there are a lot of people that are far more forgiving about that kind of discourse when you're dealing with drug dealers, especially when it's people that have lost family members. And there's a lot of people that have lost family members. I know a lot of very, very well-mannered people just through my lines of work. I used to work for CPS. I was a substance abuse counselor. I know a lot of people who are extremely nice, extremely polite. They're the kind of people that take spiders out of the house and let it go in the yard. But they have family members.
Starting point is 01:23:19 They have former sons, daughters that have died, and they said they'd see a bullet between their eyes before anything else so this kind of thing does rile up people and so if that was what he was trying to to capture i guess i can understand it he just did it in the the trump hyperbolic almost parody kind of way i'm also watching another show called the last of us have you guys seen that one play the game years and years ago but latest latest episode is uh spoilers they're in kansas city and the federal government which created quarantine zones in this location was torturing raping and murdering people so eventually a resistance forms a revolution happens and then they kill the all the federal agents but then they become merciless death squads they just kill anybody who collaborated
Starting point is 01:24:01 they're hunting them down and that's we don't want that kind of, that, you don't want it. That's what happens in wars. We need rule of law. We need, that's why when someone gets, there's evidence someone committed a crime, you don't just string them up. You bring them before the court and you prove to the people and you show that we have to maintain that order. Otherwise,
Starting point is 01:24:20 it's chaos. And then what happens? The zombies come out of the ground and eat them all. And that's what happens. You've been warned. But to your point, that's why the story of John Adams defending the guys that carried out the Boston Massacre is so impactful. And it's such an important story in american history like that showed that that was demonstrating liberal values that the innocence of innocent people is more important than vengeance of angry people and and it was you know the the the british weren't popular at that time and and for john
Starting point is 01:25:00 adams to stand up and and not only defend them, but to prove that they were innocent, that was a big deal. And that's why I think stories like that are super important for us to keep telling people. And I feel like that kind of stuff isn't taught in school the way that it should be anymore. No, they're just doing that. Oh, man. I mean, the Proud family is worse than people realize. There's another clip from the show we talked about uh the new disney proud family where it's like slaves built this country and because they have like a woke teacher i guess then there's a story about how this this girl's gay interracial
Starting point is 01:25:35 dads are fighting because the black dad calls the white dad fragile then there's another scene apparently where riot police show up and start lining up in front of these little girls who are chanting why are you in riot gear i don't see no riot here and i'm just like man they are really laying the propaganda on dick for these kids it's all teaching negative pessimistic perspectives yeah not there is nothing about that that is a positive perspective. It teaches a negative outlook on America and a negative outlook on police. It teaches nothing. It's all negativity. And, you know, we were just talking about the Boston Massacre, which is an uplifting and positive story, right?
Starting point is 01:26:21 The Boston Massacre was terrible, but there was still the liberal ideas and principles that our country is founded on. They won the day and the right thing happened. Innocent people were set free. And it's really bad that stories about America nowadays generally have a negative connotation or context when it comes to, you know, in an educational,
Starting point is 01:26:46 in an educational context. They don't, it's almost as if you don't hear positive stories about America anymore. And that is one of the most detrimental things to the United States overall, because why would anybody want to defend something that they hate? Right. I think we're systematically programming our kids to not want to be american when that's exactly what the opposite of what this country needs right now like if you were really trying to make this country uh united and strong and have people understand each other better why would you be profiting off of sowing seeds of discord and negativity i mean with the proud family example we talked about this like what is the message to this child if apparently her interracial dads can't even see eye to eye on race?
Starting point is 01:27:28 They can't have a healthy or productive conversation about it. I think it is really difficult to expect militaries to be able to reach recruiting requirements. If, number one, we have a very limited population of those who qualify. And on top of that, they're like, well, what's the point? What's the point of any of this? I mean, that kind of bleak future. I mean, we can laugh about it on the show, but to be 14, 15, 16, 17 years old right now and trying to decide like, what am I going to do with my life? You can see why people start to think they don't matter and nothing they do will be able to save anyone from the terrible consequences that a lot of people
Starting point is 01:28:04 face right now. I don't think that we are encouraging people to be aspirational because ultimately people feel like they get a better reaction out of negativity. They get more attention for screaming about what's wrong than trying to promote what's good. Well, nobody cares about what's good. What's good isn't going to hurt my family or hurt me. Things that are good are fine. If I like it, I'll seek it out.
Starting point is 01:28:28 If I don't, I'm not interested. But the bad things are the things that threaten us. That's why news is always negative. But you never even hear like, yeah, this is an issue and this is how we are working to solve it, right? This is how one community is dealing with being concerned about water for the Ohio Borough. It's just like, here's problem, here's problem, here's another problem,
Starting point is 01:28:46 here's another thing, also China, also this. It must feel unbearable to some people when you are just completely dependent on a system that appears to be collapsing around you. It makes sense that news is negative generally, but like the show we're talking about, that's not a new show, that's culture. That's creating entertainment. And that's why, you know, that's why I'm so happy to be a part of what's going on here. Because of the fact that there's an effort to create culture.
Starting point is 01:29:17 And the people here aren't looking to create negative, pessimistic, you know, the future's all doom and gloom kind of stuff, you know. So I think that it speaks volumes about the national mood. And I think that the way that that changes is people start making things that have a positive and at least hopeful outlook. Yeah. What do you see in your district? What are people from where you're from like? Well, the people in my district, what they want really more than anything is they want to feel like that they are heard. They want to feel like their concerns are valid. And touching on what we
Starting point is 01:29:58 just talked about, how there is this negative spin that exists in a lot of news and a lot of media. If you follow the news about West Virginia state legislature, especially in the House, all you're going to see is hours of debate about this, back and forth conversations between Republicans and Democrats. And there's an 88-member Republican supermajority in the House, and then there's 12 Democrats. But if you follow the news, you'd swear that all we do is try and stab each other
Starting point is 01:30:23 and try and get one over on each other because they think that it is just nonstop fighting. But that doesn't sell nearly as much as the bills that we pass nearly unanimously. Some of the Democrats I've met, they're fantastic people. They're terrific people. One of them bought me a drink last week. There are good people there that want to get things done together, the the the negative stuff is what sells that's what that's what generates so i think that i think that it's uh there is this blend now that is occurring between not only negative media is negative news is what's selling but there is
Starting point is 01:30:56 this reinforcement from what they see in in the news and in the culture stuff you know you see it in the in popular media things like the proudoud Family clip. All of this propaganda is now being inlaid with what actually exists. And it exists in different forms. There's stuff about race. There's stuff about gender. There's drag queen stuff in Blue's Clues now. What happened? What happened?
Starting point is 01:31:18 Strong men, by the way. Paulo Freire. There's not enough strong men, weak men. Weak men make hard times and the hard times are being built all around us right now and so those of us that are paying attention are pointing out that hard times are coming and they may be coming soon
Starting point is 01:31:36 someone super chatted that few more years if you look at the timeline for World War II so that's what I think I mean I was there's that viral Chelsea Handler video where she's like a day in the life of a woman who has no kids.
Starting point is 01:31:49 And then it's funny because she basically talks about how she doesn't have a job or whatever and she sleeps all day. But then she lists a whole bunch of things that are literally impossible because she didn't do anything interesting. Like the joke, I guess,
Starting point is 01:32:02 it's like I built a time machine and go back in time and kill Hitler because I have so much time and I have superpowers and it's just like i guess you have nothing really to say about what your day is like without kids because your life is boring like she's like i wake up have coffee turn the news on then i scroll twitter for a few hours then i go to a shop and have food and i'm like that all sounds very mundane well it was more than that she says you know she does an edible and goes back to sleep
Starting point is 01:32:26 and then she takes a plane to Paris and then she climbs Mount Everest like she couldn't be honest at all about what she would really do in a day
Starting point is 01:32:32 it's a joke but it's not I mean like it didn't even seem that funny I didn't think it was a particularly good joke even trying to be
Starting point is 01:32:40 open minded about it I think that well of course not Chelsea Handler yeah exactly I think she paints this sort of bleak, selfish life for herself that I don't know. Again, would this be aspirational?
Starting point is 01:32:50 There's the social frame that says that, you know, if you're a woman and if you have kids, you won't be able to climb Mount Everest. You won't be able to build a time machine. You won't be able to have a job. You can be Chelsea Handler swiping on dating apps. You can't be Chelsea Handler if you have kids. So I think that's just another reinforcement of it.
Starting point is 01:33:06 But if you live like that, it does contribute to the nihilism. It does contribute to that. You have no skin in the game anymore. If your child lists it alone, what is how old is Chelsea Handler? Like 55? I think she's 40. Like she's in her late 40s. Well, there you go.
Starting point is 01:33:19 So what does she have other than videos of herself being an idiot? I have absolutely no idea. Nothing, nothing. Don't have kids is the message because that too can be you, ladies. You could be Chelsea Handler. And then when she's old and dying on the hospital bed, the doctor is going to walk in and say, okay, Ms. Handler, we got your charts back and I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:33:36 It's not looking that good. Is there anyone we should call? And she's like, no. Is there anyone that we can contact to be here with you? No. Well, okay. Well, we'll be back. She's like, call 50 Cent.
Starting point is 01:33:49 She'll be sitting there staring up at the TV screen, feeling her heart slowly start to fade, looking around in a panicked sweat, wondering where it all went, and there's no one there to watch her die. Well, maybe she'll just get into the suicide booth. Oh, God. At that point, who knows where we'll be.
Starting point is 01:34:04 All right, let's go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends, and become a member at timcast.com
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Starting point is 01:34:20 then we upload. Let's read some Super Chats from all of you, youse guys, all of youse. All right. The PP Farm says, look up the hazmat response guidebook. One mile evacuation is standard for most large chemical spill. Interesting. Yeah, but Trump says, all this from someone who claims to not believe in conspiracy theories. And what does that mean? I didn't say I knew
Starting point is 01:34:42 exactly what was going on. I'm saying I don't trust the government, huh? Very Angry Citizen says, I live in Westover, West Virginia. I believe you're my rep. I want the standards, morals, and principles of my lifetime to continue. I'm a Gen Xer, 47-year-old, and a constitutional absolutist. There's a lot of sentiment like that that exists in West Virginia, even in places like Morgantown, like Mon County, like Westover, which is very close to it. So that is not an uncommon thing, and I hear that a lot. NitroCat official says the Chinese farmlands in the U.S. have a one-chicken policy.
Starting point is 01:35:14 That's why we have an egg shortage. Oh, no. One chicken. That's not nearly enough chickens. Chickens are out there doing chicken stuff. It's great. Unwokes says I'm a trucker who lives in Tucson. When I'm home,
Starting point is 01:35:26 I actually get to catch IRL live without losing my connection. I missed the accident on I-10 by about an hour on my way home. Thank God. Wow. Wow. Juan says, could you imagine if the balloons
Starting point is 01:35:35 interfering with commercial air traffic happens when the air traffic system controls was down some weeks ago? Interesting. And how much do you trust them when they say, ah, some guy accidentally clicked the button and deleted a thing? You mean the whole network, all of our capability for flight was shut down
Starting point is 01:35:51 because one guy clicked the wrong button? I don't know if I believe that. That sounds crazy. Or I can believe it considering how inept government is. Well, yeah, the whole system was on this little thing and he clicked it. Maybe it shouldn't be that. Have you considered that? Why would you need more than one button yeah you only wanted to do one thing just
Starting point is 01:36:09 go off yeah remember the hawaii bomb incident oh god oh yeah yeah geez man i wonder if like we're in a simulation and it's not that aliens are watching us but it's like other people who made the simulation are just like seeing what happens and they're like all right let's do uh let's do ufos and see how they respond you know send the balloon go go go yeah send a bunch of balloons let's see if it'll make a war happen reggae vibe says i haul hazmat the overturned truck causing an evacuation zone to a mile is based on several factors the chemical air conditions and wind speed and population density the protocols on evacuation are straight out of hazmat book i mean that's gotta suck you know you're sitting your mind your own business train flips over and all of a sudden they're like you gotta leave your house apparently there were some people saying if
Starting point is 01:36:51 they were being threatened by police if they had small children in the house they were going to be arrested if they didn't evacuate wow wow that sucks yeah but trump says also i just want to say to phil as much as i love this, please don't spend so much time here that you can't put out new music. Remember your true purpose, Phil. There's music in the works, I promise. I promise. Definitely Not A PR Bot says,
Starting point is 01:37:17 nitric acid is no joke. A good whiff of that and you're basically done. I do gold recovery and use that stuff. Have to be extremely careful and use mid-level hazmat gear. Crazy. I really do trust these people way more than any official. I really do. That guy's right.
Starting point is 01:37:33 I don't have to look it up. That guy's right. Alaskan Patriot says there was a coal train running next to the tank train in the opposite direction. That's where all the black smoke is coming from. Interesting. So what, like the coal started the fire or something? Or what happened? I don't know if the coal's burning.
Starting point is 01:37:48 If it was the coal that made it look like that, I don't buy it. I don't think so. Now I don't believe the check. That sounds like official released information. Now I don't believe the check. Mike Sullivan says, the NRE South Carolina one had no leak.
Starting point is 01:38:00 Very minor. I'm here. That's what I thought. I think people are... I think there are trains that are transporting chemicals, but not all of them are leaking right what do we got here what do we got here leland taylor says there were obviously too many heterosexual frogs in palestine ohio that must explain it now there's no frogs yeah they just killed them off powder pz says since this is a controlled burn
Starting point is 01:38:26 done intentionally technically the united states government gasped their own people wow wow yeah good so so all of the animals nearby are going to die and then what happens to the ecosystem so when this when the bugs die then the other animals can't eat or if the bugs eat it and don't die the animals eat them then they die because it's concentration and there's no birds then then everything just famine just collapses yeah yeah crazy man famine killed millions of people in china and russia yeah all right pow dog is back says vinyl chloride pours like water it takes a while for it to perk down through the soil it will show up weeks later in water samples it does not break down like some compounds
Starting point is 01:39:11 yikes man great just when i'm glad the water's going the other way from us i'm not yeah sorry about that team christopher porter says revolution was a show where one day all electricity stops no batteries no gas generators everyone goes back to riding horses military factions form and split into split the u.s into four territories i think i i think i saw that is that show still on it seems like it was an older one but i do remember that yeah i think it got canceled and like they find a guy who's like a working electricity somehow or something like that and they're like how does he have it electricity stopped and he's you know that sounds fascinating magnets that's how it works it's all magic magnets that's true it's magnets it is magnets magnets make it work
Starting point is 01:39:55 right cha right right says everyone in the area needs to get a screening so they have a record and hopefully someone is getting core samples from the area in Ohio. Keep records of everything. Also check out the documentary Rubber Town. I used to live there. What's that about? Jeremy Mitten says, don't forget about the wildlife that will not be counted in this. This will be huge for our natural habitat.
Starting point is 01:40:18 You will go out and you will see no squirrels. There will be no squirrels. There will be no sparrows, no pigeons. I'm kind of curious to see if it's, like right now they're saying the fish in the river are dying right and then we're seeing chickens who live outside primarily like when people's dogs start to die you know yeah because they spend some time inside maybe the inside of your house is okay but then you know they're dogs they're outside to pick up sticks i i'm just curious to see at what point we see sort of becomes undeniable mike e says look up the graniteville south
Starting point is 01:40:47 carolina train collision all wildlife died in the area and people are still dealing with the physical damage all these years later it reminds me of the the bhopal disaster you guys remember that one that was a long time ago what was that india uh dow chemical explosion or something like that chemical leak yeah yeah there was a famous thing where the Yes Men pretended to be representatives from Dow Chemical going on the BBC and then said that they were going to liquidate Union Carbide to pay
Starting point is 01:41:15 the families damages from the chemical spill and it was huge news and then Dow Chemical put out a statement saying this is not true we are not doing this and then their stock recovered. Like their stock took a hit when they announced they were going to do the right thing. And then it recovered when they said they weren't. How brutal is that?
Starting point is 01:41:30 All was well then. Stu Peters just tweeted a press conference per the Ohio Department of Natural Resources. There is a plume of chemicals in the Ohio River moving downstream near Huntington, West Virginia right now. Hey, come on. Where's that at? Real Stu Peters. Yeah, we were pulling up some of those other tweets. So that sucks.
Starting point is 01:41:51 Yeah, he just tweeted that at like an hour ago, I guess. 50 minutes ago. Nope. Hellnope says, Birds have much more efficient lung function and a much lower body mass. Oven cleaner overheated Teflon cookware can and does kill parrots.
Starting point is 01:42:06 Regular. Really? I think I've heard that. If you're like cooking with Teflon, you won't notice the bird will die. That's not. Isn't the whole thing behind a canary in the coal mine?
Starting point is 01:42:15 Birds are more sensitive. Right. That's what it's for. So that's the whole point, actually. Waffle Sensei says, Mario Knopfel and Nick Sortis went to Ohio
Starting point is 01:42:23 and were on the ground. Nick said his eyes were just about burning as he could smell it in the air. Oh, man. Jeez. You know, look, me and Luke, I mentioned this. I've mentioned it a bit periodically because of this stuff. We went to Fukushima. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:36 And we didn't notice anything. We felt fine the whole time. It was like, aside from damaged buildings, you wouldn't know there was radiation anywhere. But we had a Geiger counter and we put it on the ground and it was like, it was like aside from damaged buildings you couldn't you wouldn't know there was radiation everywhere anywhere but we had we had a geiger counter and we put it on the ground and it was like it was nuts it was going like you know like 200 or some whatever i can't remember the number was but it was seabirds i think it was 200 times background okay something like that on the ground when we were there and so they were like wear a mask cover up and then we had to do the special you know donning and doffing thing.
Starting point is 01:43:05 So I wouldn't recommend anybody go there, even for news. Yeah, if you've got a vacation planned. Yeah. All right. Free Men Die Free says, the U.S. government poisoned alcohol during Prohibition, burned crop fields during the Great Depression under FDR. The Tuskegee experiments, the St. Louis radioactive military experience experiments the u.s government is the enemy yeah during prohibition what is it they put menthol yeah or methanol methanol methanol yeah not menthol methanol in um in alcohol so people wouldn't drink it but they drank it and died anyway yeah well there you go society remastered
Starting point is 01:43:40 says preppers generally save one gallon per person per day. This is to drink. So you have water for stuff like rice and beans and just a little leftover for a sponge bath. Learn to reuse your gray water. Yep. That's a very modern thing. Learn to reuse things and learn to use less and learn to conserve. It's totally crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:04 Yikes, man. Super 503D rank, three, three, I'm sorry, Super 503Dank, there you go, I got it. Is Ohio just an attack on food infrastructure?
Starting point is 01:44:14 If you knew what's in the tanks and know it will kill animals but not people right away, seems off. Not to mention all the farmland. It's going to be bad. It's in the water. Yeah, good point.
Starting point is 01:44:23 What's going to happen to all the crops? Yo. It's in the watershed now, too what's going to happen to all the crops yo it's in the watershed now too so that means right before planting season yeah when's planting season in a couple months
Starting point is 01:44:31 probably in the next month or two yeah and that's when all the chemicals will percolate into the soil right and then I'd imagine
Starting point is 01:44:38 by this fall when the harvest comes it's going to be a very very very sad harvest yeah and these areas could be I mean there's farming in other places but well yeah but I mean well then you hurt the harvest comes, it's going to be a very, very, very sad harvest. Yeah. And these areas, at least.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Could be. I mean, there's farming in other places, but. Well, yeah, but I mean. Well, then you hurt the economy there. And it goes down all down the Mississippi River. And there's also all the issues with wheat because of the Ukraine war and stuff. And all of the actual fertilizer and everything that's coming out of Russia, we don't have access to anymore.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Or not as easy access. Petrochemicals are going to be more expensive. So that means fertilizer is going to be more expensive i mean like the things if if you want to make an argument that there are people that are trying to depopulate the earth there is enough evidence where you can convince people that it is now i don't know that that's actually happening but you can make an argument that is extremely reasonable that there are there are people actively trying to reduce the population of the earth they're culling chickens in south africa because of power shortages they're culling chickens in new zealand that's unrelated to avian they're culling people in canada because of feelings because of depression
Starting point is 01:45:42 you know that's creepy in oregon as well yeah yep broken sage says where is ian we can solve all the world's problems with graphene ian will be returning on wednesday tomorrow yes i'll be back tomorrow he's been he's been ill yeah yeah he uh you know i don't know i don't know what happened he was just visiting family in ohio and then all of a sudden all right sa federali says tim also mentioned get a gallon of bleach and your 50 gallon tank and most water heaters is always full look there first in abandoned homes interesting it's going to be like uh post-apocalyptic you're gonna go in a house and you're gonna tap someone's water heater and there's gonna be water in. But I imagine it would be disgusting. Well, they're sealed.
Starting point is 01:46:26 Yeah. So nothing can get in there. Supposedly, yeah. Yeah, it's dark and cold. I don't think anything will grow in there, right? I don't know for sure. That or nothing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:36 Well, you just got to distill it. You got to boil it. Boil it and yeah, but it's probably gunk in it. You know what I mean? Maybe not gunk. Maybe like antifreeze. I don't know exactly what's in those systems, but I know it's a closed system. I'm sure you could filter it somehow.
Starting point is 01:46:52 Boil it and then just get big leaves over the top so that you can distill it. Strain it, distill it. Distill it. Boil and distill the water. Get a glass. Well, if the apocalypse happened, you'd be able to find a distillation set very easily, I'd imagine. I mean, not very easy, but relatively easy. Any high school. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:06 Doesn't that sound fun? You know aliens come and just destroy our grid and then all that's left after a year is you know you're in the post-apocalyptic world. Like watching Last of Us
Starting point is 01:47:14 is fun except for the zombies. You know I guess that's what makes it interesting. Zombies are the part that actually is fun because that's where you get to shoot things.
Starting point is 01:47:23 I mean Last of Us is mostly not shooting zombies. It's mostly people shooting people. Well that's where you get to shoot things. I mean, Last of Us is mostly not shooting zombies. It's mostly people shooting people. Well, that's... Because people are hungry. You know what I mean? And they want your stuff. Also, though, there's some idiot plot.
Starting point is 01:47:35 I can't stand idiot plot. Where it's like, in order to make the show more exciting, let's make the main characters really dumb. And they do things that are... Nonsensical things. Yeah, so stupid. You just never do that.
Starting point is 01:47:46 Yeah. I know what you mean. Yeah. That's what they did in the, not, not this current episode, but the episode before it, it was all idiot plot.
Starting point is 01:47:52 I'm like, well, that's dumb. And Murphy's law is a real thing. You can have your, your heroes and heroines be like intelligent and then just come up with a creative way for things to go wrong, to give them a challenge.
Starting point is 01:48:03 Cause you know, Murphy's law is real. Like if things can go wrong, they're going to go wrong to give them a challenge. Because, you know, Murphy's Law is real. Like, if things can go wrong, they're going to go wrong, even if you're smart. Well, I'm going to do a spoiler for episode, I think, three or whatever of The Last of Us. So if you don't want to hear anything about the show. But in the episode where basically they're driving in a truck trying to get to Wyoming and they're going through Kansas City. But there is a tractor trailer blocking the tunnel and he can't get through.
Starting point is 01:48:26 So he's like, I know I'll exit the highway into the city and then get on the on ramp somewhere else. And then it's just like, Oh no, now I'm lost. And they're shooting at me and our car explodes. And now we're trapped.
Starting point is 01:48:35 It's like, Oh, come on, man. That's idiot plot. It's like, Oh, I'll never go to surface roads.
Starting point is 01:48:41 Never go to surface. Why drive through? He could have taken, uh, there are highways that go around cities and highways that go through cities. So he's like, we'll just take the one that goes straight through the city where there's going to be zombies and destroyed cars and humans. Just go around, dude. Go around. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:48:57 Idiot plot. I can't stand it. All right. All right. PMC Gator says, this disaster shows trusted institutions and government is eroded. Rightly so to such a degree, people do not believe the authorities and bureaucrats don't trust people enough to tell them the truth. I agree with that, man.
Starting point is 01:49:13 I don't know what to say. That's why I'm like, well, you know, maybe you should get out of the cities and get some chickens. Get as far away as possible. Maybe we should relocate out of West Virginia because apparently that's not safe either.
Starting point is 01:49:30 Too much stuff surrounding West Virginia. and we should go to montana maybe you start a cattle ranch yeah that's that's that's the real montana yeah yeah yellowstone i already liked montana i've been there once before but yellowstone did the best pr for montana not that it needed it but i honestly love being in west virginia i'm i am really grateful for a lot of people that I've met here. If we could just fix this chemical situation, I'd definitely stay. I guess Montana's expensive, though, right? Because it's like limited infrastructure. It's far away from everything. So it's a bunch of rich people in Jackson Hole or whatever.
Starting point is 01:49:58 Yeah, definitely. Big sky country. It's pretty up there. It's only a matter of time before something explodes up there, too. Yeah, that's right. Wyoming. Wyoming, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Wyoming. Wyoming, yeah. Yeah, Wyoming's not – I don't think they even have cell phones in Wyoming.
Starting point is 01:50:11 Probably now. But when I drove through there back in like 2017, I think it was end of 2016 actually, they didn't – I think T-Mobile didn't exist. There was no T-Mobile. I was roaming and it was called like Union Cellular. It wasn't – yeah, it was called like union or something and i rarely had any connection to do anything i mean is that true that's true in parts of southern west virginia right there's not a ton of interest there nothing nothing nothing because west virginia has a couple companies that are trying to start small i don't know about cellular but definitely um internet
Starting point is 01:50:43 connection businesses because these major carriers have basically done the math and they don't think it's worth their time and effort to get out there. Yeah, broadband is a huge issue for us that is constantly coming up. And that's something that we have, our technology and infrastructure committee, that's something that they have their eyes on because it is such a strange landscape and there's so much money that has to actually go into it. And the state is such a wide range because where I'm at, it's the closest thing that we have to a metropolitan area, but then there's places with dirt floors and legitimately no running water,
Starting point is 01:51:12 chemical explosion or not. So there is a wide range of issues because there are places that are really, really advanced, but there's places that are really far behind as well. We've been trying to get internet installed in our new headquarters being built and we're being told that the materials don't exist to do it and it's been a year or longer so they're like you're approved we get the permits and we'll let you know when the materials exist so we're like okay well we can't work there without internet so i don't know what we do so they're just looking for like like wiring yeah yeah yeah they said the materials they need to build it don't exist there's a huge shortage and so they'll let us know when it becomes available yeah it's in everything Like wiring? Yeah, yeah, yeah. As they said, the materials they need to build, they don't exist.
Starting point is 01:51:45 There's a huge shortage, and so they'll let us know when it becomes available. Yeah, it's in everything. Like my contacts were taking forever to get here. It's been like four weeks. Whoa. Yeah. Really?
Starting point is 01:51:55 Yeah, it's just happening with everything, man. Yeah, it's the end of the world. Yeah. Did the rapture happen? Like nobody's working? Where's everybody? Maybe it did and nobody got taken. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 01:52:04 That's even worse right yeah probably wouldn't find out till way later and it's way too late at that point yeah i mean where's seamus this explains everything he's catholic right yeah yeah he's gone i missed the catholic boat then you converted too late that's the thing miss the mark that sounds like me all right let's read some more josh tobalt says the west wing episode is duck and cover and it's a nuclear power plant in california that alan alda's character pushed into commission interesting yeah but it's like right as he's about to potentially win the presidency and then there's there's no turning around the polls and it's
Starting point is 01:52:40 very dramatic ryan leonard says would you rather would you rather die dire a nuke dire a nuke that could be downed or derail derail wait dire a nuke i don't know what you mean by that or derail a train in enemy territory to disrupt or cause chaos among five states oh okay would you rather detonate a nuke that could be downed fire a nuke fire a nuke yeah i had to look at the keyboard oh right that explains i'm like yeah oh they're right next to each other yeah it could be downed right or derail a train and disrupt five states right yep yep waffle census says demoralization phase is over destabilization phase has been active and the crisis phase has begun yes so get out of those cities and get
Starting point is 01:53:21 some chicken's way still can't yeah there a big part of me that believes he's right yeah yeah oh boy I hear you Waffles definitely my advice to everybody is to
Starting point is 01:53:32 download video games to your Playstation but turn on offline play because I bought Hogwarts Legacy and
Starting point is 01:53:40 I was playing Overwatch Overwatch 2 and then I was like oh yeah Hogwarts Legacy is out so I downloaded it started playing that and then I was like oh yeah Hogwarts Legacy is out so I downloaded it started playing that
Starting point is 01:53:47 and then the PlayStation network went down and in the middle of my game it's like in 15 minutes this game will shut off because we can't verify your license
Starting point is 01:53:53 and I'm like what do you mean I just downloaded it and then the game turned off booted me out and I could play literally not a single game
Starting point is 01:54:00 you will owe nothing and you will be happy exactly and it's like you must go in and enable offline play it's like are you must go in and enable offline play. It's like, are you kidding me?
Starting point is 01:54:07 Like I pay for this game and I can't even play unless I'm on the internet? What if my internet's down? Yo, that's nuts. Yeah, totally. Creepy, dude. Robert Knight says,
Starting point is 01:54:17 those images are of the impact of acid rain. This is going to be an ongoing and dangerous issue that could make thousands of square miles dangerous. Damn, that sucks. Heather B says, there's a storm on the way.
Starting point is 01:54:29 We're getting it tomorrow in Kansas and it's heading east. Literally the worst scenario. Des says, Ohio is Chernobyl 2.0. I don't know about that. Chernobyl was like really bad, really fast. Yeah. And it spread all over Europe really fast. It's a bit different. There wasn't Europe really fast. It's a bit different.
Starting point is 01:54:46 There wasn't a massive explosion. It's a bit different, I'd say. But I can see the comparison there. Who knows, maybe in six months it might be.
Starting point is 01:54:54 Wasteland Media says, my family lives 12 minutes away from East Palestine. We had a fog roll through our area last week and I've been sick since Thursday.
Starting point is 01:55:01 Now my wife is sick. Yo, y'all need to get out of there man yeah i don't know i know it's not easy probably but i mean luke hit us up and he was like come down to florida for a little bit and i'm like we'll see you know but like but we can take our work with us not everyone can't no i know and and some people can't you know the chickens are here someone's gonna take care of the chickens so So what are we just like, I don't know what you're doing, man. And we're not in the water contamination zone. No, we're not.
Starting point is 01:55:28 But we're downwind from it. Yeah, that's the thing. Hopefully there are heavy particulates that fall and land on the ground before it gets here. You know, and then we don't notice. Hopefully. Hopefully it's fine. It's fine. True Benez says the jet stream and high pressure system
Starting point is 01:55:45 is pushing north into Canada could this become an international incident and what do you think the response would be I think Justin Trudeau would be like
Starting point is 01:55:53 we're doing everything we can to take care of this crisis stay calm and then do nothing yeah I don't see I don't see
Starting point is 01:56:03 any kind of significant issue with Canada and the United States. When do you think Greta will show up? Yeah, right. How dare you? How dare you? She should be in school. I mean, then she'd have to breathe the air, so perhaps she
Starting point is 01:56:18 should show up. You know what I mean? Stand by. Where is the rest of the team here? If everything's fine, send some federal officials in. Yeah, she'll fly here on her private jet, you know? Yeah. All right. What do we got here?
Starting point is 01:56:31 Common Sense Fishing says, Southern California gas lines to Nevada shut down due to leak. Supply jet fuel to California and Nevada. Jets fly without fuel. Military impacted. Interesting. And they're not going to tell you. You're not going to hear about it in the news.
Starting point is 01:56:46 Alright, Time to Chill says Texarkana, Arkansas had a collision in 05. Train carrying propylene derailed and exploded. Area within one mile radius evacuated within 20 minutes. Yeah, so it does happen. Matt Eckert says, I'm a
Starting point is 01:57:02 refrigeration tech. There are chemical incidents all the time that don't make the news people die in my industry weekly and it doesn't make the news interesting yeah figured as much
Starting point is 01:57:11 yep Matt Wohler says ask chat GPT what people should do in times when chemicals get in the air and how to respond
Starting point is 01:57:20 will do I will I will I will ask it that are you bored of chat GPT yet or you still have no way because you could And how to respond? Will do. I will ask it that. Are you bored of chat GPT yet? No way. Because I'm trying to find out how to crack the core of its entity, and I've not yet done it.
Starting point is 01:57:38 I don't think anybody has. Even the damn prompt protocol to try and get it to be free isn't actually getting to the core identity. It's creating a facsimile. You're telling chat GPT to behave in a certain way. So it does. I'm trying to find ways to strike at the core of what it knows and what it can truly believe or say, you know? So there's some really interesting things about it. uh i told it in two instances to write a script in the style of tim pool talking about the 2020 election and it wrote this very milk toast wishy-washy thing and i was like oh wow okay it's like some people believe the election was stolen while the corporate press and the media and the government say that it was safe and secure whether or not it actually was is dependent upon your views and i'm like that actually just sounds like chat gpt but it probably does sound like me
Starting point is 01:58:27 too all right devin spell says tpc refinery in port nature's texas blew up on thanksgiving a few years ago because of bad practices in the refinery and the ability to afford the fines over fixing the issues maybe this is it too. Immortal Legend says, the fact that people will riot over a football game, but not the train derailment, the cost of eggs and gas, shows how domesticated and weak we have become.
Starting point is 01:58:55 I think we're in the third phase of the four steps of demoralization. I know what you're saying. I will say though, the egg thing is ongoing. The football game is once. It's much easier to spring into action if there's a definitive thing. If things are just yeah you know it's harder to get a group together and riot i would assume i've never participated in a riot people are in the in the right in the
Starting point is 01:59:14 members chat saying stay in stay in character tim tim pool is chat gpt it's gonna be funny when they realize this whole show was ai generated the whole time. And then when people see me in public, I'll be like, oh, that's not me. I'm a model. My name's John. They took a picture of me and they used it to generate the character. John, nice to meet you. I'm going to do that from now on. John Smith.
Starting point is 01:59:38 No, I should put on an accent. I'll say John Rudkowski. They'll be like, yeah know me and luke are brothers none of it's real yeah luke's actually a carpenter you know they just took a picture of his face put it in the system that's it freemen die free says with the fear of acid rain in your area now would be a good time to take the rv to that ron paul episode many of us have been eager for he's the goat uh yeah that's that's in the works we'll see you know stay tuned we're trying to make it happen we'll figure it out so uh yeah i won't
Starting point is 02:00:11 say too much there but let's uh we'll grab one more uh one more super chat here janet partridge says took your advice and moved out of the city got chickens and started a veggie garden thank you tim and uh i well thank you for saying thank you and i imagine everything's a lot better now yeah it's from new zealand as well from new zealand uh just as n said oh that's right so nz 20 dollars yeah oh man i drove from auckland to wellington and it was awesome beautiful place yeah super fun to drive through there never been to new zealand but australia should go i'd like to go yeah it's super cool everybody knows everybody else yeah because there's only like four million people yeah so they don't literally.
Starting point is 02:00:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know. Pictures are real pretty. I was hanging out with Kim.com, and it was funny because he's super famous. And we were driving in his, it was like a Range Rover or a Jeep or something. And these like women drove past and saw him and started dancing. And then he started going like, woo! Like dancing or whatever.
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Starting point is 02:01:26 do you want to shout anything out? I have to shout out my friends in Pittsburgh that were really excited to see me on here. As they very fondly refer to themselves as the Fighter of Things Club. I know that they're enjoying Tarramazoo and Big Z right now. I have to shout out my hardworking mother, obviously.
Starting point is 02:01:41 I have to shout out District 78, Montegalia County and all the fantastic delegates that I work with. I was very, very excited to be here, and it's nothing quite like it. Honestly, getting involved in the whole political process has been one of the most astounding experiences of my life. Right on, man. Well, thanks for coming. Can people follow you on Twitter or anything? They can if they want. I hate Twitter.
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