Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #718 Soros Starts MAGA WAR, Pits DeSantis Against Trump To Help Democrats w/Ann Coulter

Episode Date: February 18, 2023

Tim, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Ann Coulter to discuss conservatives freaking out over George Soros claiming DeSantis will beat Trump, John Fetterman being hospitalized again, Fox News saying Tr...ump's election claims were total BS, and Ann Coulter slamming Nikki Haley. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:50 free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. You know, this one really grinds my gears. I'm seeing all these people claim that George Soros endorsed Ron DeSantis, and he quite literally didn't. George Soros said he hopes that DeSantis and Trump go to war so that the Republican Party rips itself apart and Democrats win in a landslide and the Republicans are forced to reform themselves or something like that. But I think a lot of the people who really want Trump to win see Ron DeSantis as a threat. So they're running with this fake story. Quite literally, the Gateway Pundit edited a quote from George Soros to make it seem like he was endorsing Ron DeSantis when, in fact, he didn't. So we'll talk about that because that
Starting point is 00:01:29 one pisses me off. Look, man, I don't mind Trump. I like him for a lot of reasons. I like DeSantis for a lot of reasons. I think Trump is better for some reason. I think DeSantis is better for some other reasons. But the fastest way to lose my vote is to lie to me. The other story we got is Fetterman. I guess he's out. He's going to be in the hospital for weeks. He's depressed. His brain isn't working. He's getting worse. I guess we'll just do the countdown. Maybe we'll get a timer for the show as to when Joe Biden appoints his wife to be a senator when he bows out. So we'll talk about that. Plus, we got some interesting stories coming out of the New York Times. Apparently, they are now complaining they've hired too many activists. But the funny thing about it is it took them 10 years to figure it out. So we'll talk about that before we get started. Head over to TimCast.com. Become a member
Starting point is 00:02:09 to support our work over at TimCast.com. You can click that Join Us button. As a member, you'll get access to exclusive uncensored members-only shows Monday through Thursday. They usually go up at about 11 p.m., not so family-friendly. And smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. But tonight, we actually do have a members-only show. So we are being joined
Starting point is 00:02:32 by the great Ann Coulter. So I was very excited. And normally, we don't do members-only segments for Fridays, but I was like, we definitely have to record something special with Ann Coulter
Starting point is 00:02:41 because it's an honor and a privilege to have you here. Thank you. So that will go up at 10 p.m. And all we did was I was just like, let's just press record as we're doing show setup because often there's some interesting conversation and we'll capture that. And I think people might appreciate, you know, getting to see a little bit of the candid conversation, Ian talking about God.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Oh, I didn't know we were recording. That's awesome. That was a good combo. It was. And that's why I was like, we should record this. Yeah. And then we will have a members show. So that'll be up at 10.
Starting point is 00:03:06 And obviously joining us tonight to talk about a whole bunch of stuff is Ann Coulter. Hello. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be here. Yeah, I think everybody knows who you are. But would you want to introduce yourself for those that maybe live under a rock? I'm banned every place. That's why I started a sub stack, including the shadow banning.
Starting point is 00:03:27 And we were talking about this earlier. I'm not the huge fan of Elon's that I was when he first bought it, because I'm not really getting the shadow ban lifted. And I mean, I was skiing this week. So I do videos every week on my sub stack. And this one was sort of a fluffy one. It was with supermodel Alana Stewart. She's a friend of mine from L.A.
Starting point is 00:03:51 And I just wanted to talk to her about her jet set lifestyle and how she met George Hamilton and Rod Stewart and what it was like back when models were pretty. And she's very, very pretty. It was the tamest interview I've ever done, and Twitter slaps a sensitive content label on it. For what? They're just coming after you. No idea.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I clicked on, do you want to appeal? And it goes through paragraph. Well, this is sensitive content warning, and we don't allow sensitive content, and we can't have sensitive content, and this has sensitive content. Nothing about what was sensitive about it. It's two good looking women in a video that you posted.
Starting point is 00:04:30 It's dangerous. It's propaganda. I don't, one person told me, I don't know if this is true, because, you know, I want to make the headline sound exciting. And also she is lovely and has a lovely figure. So I want to get into stuff that girls might want to know. So have you ever had to diet? What do you eat?
Starting point is 00:04:48 How do you look so beautiful? So I put, you know, Alana Stewart talks, you know, supermodel life, diet, how Bianca Jagger ended up with a copy of one of my books. This is, you know, this long headline. And one of my friends said the word diet might have been triggering for fatties that's what i'm thinking the word it wasn't about diets it's what is your diet right everyone has a diet but that's why i'm on substack and it's i mean it's such a relief to be on substack because you know during that two-week period, the one time I felt free on Twitter was the two-week period when it looks like Elon Musk was going to buy Twitter, but he
Starting point is 00:05:30 hadn't bought it yet. And then, you know, it took a while. And then it looks like he wasn't going to buy it. But for two weeks, I felt like all of the woke censors thought, oh, crap, he's coming in, lift the filters, lift the filters. And and bam all my followers went through the roof for two weeks and then he said he wasn't gonna buy it wall came down again and the wall is back again i mean there are a million different ways he himself tweeted i guess last week i was skiing one of my friends sent me this might be what's getting you um that they will de-amplify people who have a lot of people blocking their tweet. Well, that's just giving liberals the heckler's veto.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Have you blocked anyone? Oh, I have. My first week I did only because I didn't understand how Twitter worked. Literally my first day, if somebody called me the C word, I thought, screw you. I'm blocking you. And then I realized, oh, I know, just don't follow this person. If I'm worried that person might show up in a retweet, oh, my gosh, my eyes will burn. I could mute them.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Easy enough. So to block somebody, only a liberal would do that. So obviously, if you are de-amplifying people who are blocked, you are de-amplifying conservatives by definition. That's just one thing they do. And then two weeks ago, I sent out a tweet. It wasn't even that funny a tweet but it was kind of funny and by i don't know a couple oh i know what it was two hours later it had a thousand likes and then three hours later it had only 200 likes i'm sorry twitter did 700 people three hours after this tweet went up think you know that tweet i liked an hour ago i'm gonna go find it and unlike it i was wrong i changed my
Starting point is 00:07:15 mind that's why i'm on substack and substack is fun i've comments i interact i do and i post columns it'll go directly to your to your inbox but i do videos podcasts and we have we have a story from you guys you got the you got a letter from the new york times where they're complaining about wokeness well let's get into all that stuff uh we'll go through the rest of the people hanging out i guess i guess you you know hannah claire we're sorority sisters i'm not even kidding you're not kidding i'm totally not kidding we're both delta gammas that's fine i'm hannah claire brimlow i'm a writer I'm totally not kidding we're both Delta Gammas that's fine I'm Hannah Claire Brimlow I'm a writer for
Starting point is 00:07:46 timcast.com we're both Delta Gammas and like all these panhellenic college sororities will send out emails saying like look at our notable alums and this is an actress
Starting point is 00:07:54 who's in it and whatever else and they'll say like nominate someone and I always used to be like Ann Coulter when you get acknowledged that Ann Coulter
Starting point is 00:08:00 was a DG and I used to nominate you for awards really that's so sweet of you I noticed that they have never contacted you to win best delta gamma well maybe national hasn't but i've maybe it was because of you the a lot of local delta gammas would send me all kinds of delta gamma pair i love getting it i loved delta gamma it was fabulous it was a great time i loved a lot of individual colleges delta gammas have sent me stuff i talk
Starting point is 00:08:24 about it i mean i don't talk about it publicly often but i would tell lot of individual colleges delta gammas have sent me stuff i talk about it i mean i don't talk about it publicly often but i would tell all of my other dg friends that ann was a delta gamma and this is great and we should have her speak at whatever and then i used to email like whenever nationals did these calls because they'd have like an instagram post and be like famous people and i'd be like ann where's ann you have to have ann there's no point doing this but yeah uh yeah thank you of course so Ann and I are long time sorority sisters
Starting point is 00:08:46 I'm a writer for timcast.com I think I already said that you should follow at timcastnews on Twitter and Instagram
Starting point is 00:08:51 hi everyone Ian Crossland I'm going to keep this moving along Bucko will be making an appearance I can bring him
Starting point is 00:08:56 up sooner than later if you guys want to I'm going to go get Bucko while we do the rounds of intros and he'll be back soon the intros are basically over with you
Starting point is 00:09:03 hi everyone hi Serge what's happening brother yo I'm pressing buttons pleasure to meet you and coulter i my parents have been watching you for a long time they're happy about this anyways they're happy let's get going let's jump into this first story this one uh this one pissed me off newsweek writes george soros prays for ronda santos rattles trump supporters and that's putting it lightly i saw gateway punditit wrote George the kiss of death. George Soros endorses Ron DeSantis, which he did not do. Let me show you the quote. They actually
Starting point is 00:09:31 do have the quote in here. Quote, DeSantis is shrewd, ruthless and ambitious. He is likely to be the Republican candidate. This could induce Trump, whose narcissism has turned into a disease to run as a third party candidate. That would lead to a Democratic landslide and force the Republican Party to reform itself. He actually said, my hope for 2024 is that Trump and Governor DeSantis of Florida will slug it out for the Republican nomination. And then because it would lead to the Democrats winning. So why? I think I mean, I know why. I think people who like Trump are trying to sabotage Ron DeSantis. But I don't know your thoughts, I guess.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I'm just, I'm kind of pissed off at being lied to, to be honest. I'm so glad you looked up the full quote and can expose that it is just a complete 100% lie. Coming from Trump supporters. Yeah. Well. And the mainstream media, don't get me wrong. But at least Newsweek puts it lightly. They're like, he praised, Santa's praised him?
Starting point is 00:10:27 He called him ruthless. That's not really complimentary. I just thought it was stupid. They've convinced me that this is a dog. And that's why I'm very happy to see it. Fake news from Anne. I just think it's stupid to decide whether you like a politician or a person based on who else likes that person or doesn't like that person. That's what you do when you have you're looking at a black box.
Starting point is 00:10:53 You have no other information. Who is this Ron DeSantis you speak of? We know about Ron. I don't care. I don't care who endorses him. I know the things he's done. He opened up the state trump shut it down um he read the great barrington declaration guys trump listened to fauci
Starting point is 00:11:12 and allowed him to run covid policy uh he sent the illegals to to martha's vineyard the greatest political stunt of my lifetime yeah wow funny and people are so mad about that yes i mean it was after all the busing and everything to take to take the extra step to go to martha's vineyard and man was that a hit he hired more police offered police being harassed other places to come and get a five thousand dollar bonus to come work in florida i mean he's he's just been done hit after hit after hit. So I don't care who endorses him. This is Mr. Bocas. Here he is. They told us he was going to die in a week and here he is. He's looking like he's getting a little thick. He's starting to eat again. He gained a quarter pound in the first week after stem cell treatment. He just got another injection yesterday and some
Starting point is 00:12:00 subcutaneous fluids today. So he looks like a little muscular body builder. What does he have? It's kidney failure, they call it. Is he a drinker? What's that? Yeah, he's been... No, he's a street cat. His kidneys never develop correctly. Yeah, he has got underdeveloped kidneys and a bad heart. So he started... Since the stem cell treatment and the change in his
Starting point is 00:12:20 diet, he's extremely a lot better. He's like John Fetterman. Stem cells. we got him this experimental stem cell treatment is he depressed no not anymore he's doing better he had to shave his little legs though they should have the fourth one though he's got i know one that's still fluffy so anyway we were talking about uh ron desantis and donald trump uh so what do you think and you're voting uh desantis 2024 if he runs right Right now, though, if the cameras weren't running, I'd say, of course I am. He's the best candidate out there.
Starting point is 00:12:51 He's the best in my lifetime. But since the cameras are running, I want Ron DeSantis to have to fight for my vote. So, yes, I'm considering him very strongly. We'll see. I mean, you've been on Twitter quite vocal about Donald Trump. Yes. Yes, both ways. I mean, I did write in Trump We Trust.
Starting point is 00:13:11 And I was introducing him at rallies two weeks after he announced out in Iowa and elsewhere. And look, if you read in Trump We Trust, I wouldn't take back a single word of it. In fact, I've given it to certain Republican presidential candidates. I want to read it saying, but you actually have to do it. Because the 2016 campaign, I think, was the greatest presidential campaign in world history. But in the book, I make it very clear, he's an awful person. He's a con man. He's a grifter. Horrible, tacky vulgarian got all that but he's the only one offering us this basket of issues i want to vote on obviously number one immigration number two three and four immigration and the wall bringing trade back this worship of free trade um and no more stupid wars
Starting point is 00:14:03 those were like the three biggest things and then and he supported things like you know gun rights very strongly um and then you know he gets into office and starts talking about amnestying the dreamers they're the ones i want to deport first because they're bossy and obnoxious at least you know you catch another illegal alien and they say, OK, you got me. No, dreamers. How dare you not give me amnesty? So Trump gets elected, doesn't build the wall, builds 33 miles, you know, six months before the election. It's a 2000 mile border. He takes Kim Kardashian, noted criminologist, to to push through laws releasing criminals that which, you know. That's a huge hit with Americans,
Starting point is 00:14:47 especially after 2020. That's great. Yeah. Well, he's always known how to be a celebrity, right? That reminded me of the reality TV show aspect of Trump, right? He knew- I don't- I think you're giving him more- I don't even think it's knowing how to be. I think he's a narcissistic- I didn't- the one thing I didn't know when I wrote in Trump we trust is how profoundly stupid he is. I made very clear in the book, the only thing he could do, we will forgive him for anything. And I defended him the day after the Access Hollywood, you know, pussy grabbing tape came out. I was giving a speech before like 5000 people in California up in farmland. And I was pedal to the metal defending him. And, you know, I said, well, forgive him for anything, but unless
Starting point is 00:15:33 you betray us on immigration. Oh, and guess what he did? You can't do every campaign rally, build the wall, build the wall, build the wall, and then not build the wall and expect to get reelected. Well, that was the best part of your twitter account for me for a long time was you your how many days like no progress on the wall border wall update yeah and you i mean you were intense about it you were one of the most vocal people keeping his feet to the fire on the border wall yeah that works it didn't look you fought a good fight here i mean you can't say that you didn't try. I will say, to be fair, the areas that got secured did reduce illegal immigration in key points. You didn't get a beautiful—
Starting point is 00:16:11 Five million illegals have come in since Biden's been president. There's a reason we wanted a wall. A wall is forever. And these people, my allies on the immigration issue who say, oh, wall that's it's a metaphor we don't just enforce e-verify okay e-verify goes away with the next president refugee limits go away with the next president a wall is forever americans were correct to vote for the guy no matter how much of a despicable moronic grifting human being he was he promised us a wall and that's why people voted is DeSantis going to get us a wall um what I like I think so I think so I think so I absolutely do and the reason
Starting point is 00:16:53 I say it with that enthusiasm is what I like about DeSantis is Trump was all talk no action DeSantis is no talk action yeah what did you think of Doug Ducey's shipping container wall? He like put the shipping containers in the gaps in the wall. Oh yeah, and then Biden took it down. Yeah, they were super mad about it. What did you think? I mean, do you like that? That's why we want a wall and not a cheesy little fence.
Starting point is 00:17:19 That's true. I used to think the wall was such a silly idea because I was like, they'll just go around it or under it or they'll send drones over it. I didn't realize until the last couple of years how much human trafficking is just happening on a daily basis. I've got this armband from – this says entrejas, which means delivered. This is put around the arms of young children that are sent across the border as commodities basically to be sold. No, it's very sick.
Starting point is 00:17:45 The people that are being trafficked get marked by this. And then we also have that ID, a fake ID, that they use to try and make fake asylum claims. It's crazy that... And we are a magnet for that sort of human trafficking. It's sick, it's sick, it's sick that we're doing this. It's sick that we're doing it to them. And it's just people who hate America,
Starting point is 00:18:04 and they're willing to risk these human lives to wreck our country. I think it's completely in line with what Democrats do, short-term gains for long-term losses. One of the big strategies Democrats have is to artificially prop up the failing economy with this maximizing as much demand as possible through illegal immigration, ignoring all the negative consequences, and then 10 years down the line, we're going to face a very serious economic crisis from it, but they're hoping that they can boost numbers in the short term to make it look good.
Starting point is 00:18:35 That's true, too, but long term, they win also. Look at California. The entire country will be California. Highest taxes in the country least least numbers of services people who work for a living are just oppressed harassed they have to walk through you know human feces to get to work homeless camps all over that is your future america do you think that the allowance of the this happening across the border is one of three reasons maybe because they can't stop it so it's like what are we going to do two because they want uh a huge population that they
Starting point is 00:19:13 can turn into military men i don't know maybe that's part of it that they want more fodder for the war machine so they're letting them in and they're like hey you can earn your citizenship i think they're not against that but not i think that's not the number. You think it's more just like they're overwhelmed and they're like, we don't know how to stop it, so we're not going to try? No, no, that is absolute. Never believe that. I mean, they act that way. So, sorry, I shouldn't be that dismissive.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Yeah, they all act, oh, what are you going to do? And, oh, people can climb over a wall. Yeah, tell it to Israel. Tell it to China. Tell it to the Capitol complex that put up a wall just the other day. Walls always work. I mean, it's like saying don't put a lock on your door. Isn't that a nice quote?
Starting point is 00:19:50 On a new bed. Focus is laying on Hans Koch. Get some stem cell on that. I could use it. You don't lock your door because, you know, a burglar could, I don't know, take a hatchet to it or something. I mean, Israel had the wall goes deep, deep down. When Israel put up its wall, it cut down illegal immigration by more than 90%. That wasn't good enough for Israel. So they found after they built the wall, which parts of the wall were the most vulnerable
Starting point is 00:20:17 and built those extra high. No, walls work. Drones don't work. Boots on the ground don't work. High tech doesn't work. What are we going to do, watch them run across? That's all an excuse for no wall open border. The only thing that works is a wall. And as for why they want it, well, long term, Democrats are sitting pretty in California. You came from California. They control every branch of government. The illegals who are coming in, I will say they are very hard workers. They're very nice. I bear them no ill will.
Starting point is 00:20:53 And they really are hard workers. But they also consume a lot of government benefits. And they vote overwhelmingly Democrat. And that's what happened to california um hispanics are now a plurality it certainly it was completely the opposite it was like one of the whitest states in the union california it was it was the beach boys now they're a plurality and democrats control the state and that's what will happen to the entire country in the immediate they don't need to vote because what happens is one of the reasons California, at least in my opinion, brings in so many illegal immigrants is that it inflates their census numbers, which then grants them more congressional seats and more electoral votes.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Right. So I always tell people that, you know, they'll say illegal immigrants don't vote. They don't vote. And I'm like, well, at the at the federal level, they don't need to. If the census tracks X many people and they get a—I think in the 2010s, they had one extra congressional seat and electoral college vote. One out of 538 votes. You're absolutely right. That's a lot of power to gain from doing what they're doing. I think they're called ghost districts.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Maxine Waters gets elected with, like like seven votes because her district is all illegal aliens but by now in california i mean they've been coming for a long time they are voting in california we're just bringing in more and more and more and why don't the republicans do anything about it um and that's the donors want the cheap labor yeah i had some of my best friends in california were illegal aliens from mexico or whatever and they would work for cash and then they would send it to mexico i don't even know if it was getting taxed no it's not if it's cash that's just going across the border there's no way to tax it my compassionate love was there but the structural system wasn't working it was
Starting point is 00:22:39 very bad for our country that's that's money that's being sucked out of our economy. And by the way, going directly into the pocket of Carlos Slim. Who's that? The billionaire monopolist of Mexico. He's often competing with Elon as the richest man in the world. And how does he make it? By overcharging these poor Mexicans.
Starting point is 00:22:59 So all that money going back is to pay for his industry. It's a very corrupt country, Mexico. Doesn't he own some big media company or something? He bought, he saved the New York Times. That's right, the New York Times. Is he still principal owner? No, but he stepped in at a crucial moment to save them. They were teetering on bankruptcy.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Man, wow. I'm talking about like Bloomberg buying it or somebody else buying it. Carlos Slim sucked in. It was a fortune. Forbes magazine had him as the richest man in the world from 2010 to 2013. Carlos. So what is he like? And he's selling a gorgeous mansion in New York City for $80 million.
Starting point is 00:23:38 It was just in the Daily Mail yesterday. Whoa. What part of the city is that in? Upper East Side. Wow. $80 million. What the? Across from the Met. It's magnificent. It's the red one, right? Yes. It's so pretty. It's magnificent. What do we do about the drug cartels that are running people like drugs across the border? problem um race relations poor people bringing manufacturing back everything gets easier when
Starting point is 00:24:08 you solve immigration because you don't have this we don't need an extra problem to deal with an extra poor people we have to pay for but the drug problem that's 100 a function of not having a wall oh one of the interviews i just did on suback, and I highly recommend you all watch it. So this guy, Sam Quinones, liberal journalist, but I've been a fan of his for a long time. He was a really good investigative reporter. You may have read him in the LA Times because his beat was crime and immigration. And he's the only block quote I have in Adios America, where it's like two paragraphs just from one of his articles. Really, really good. And then he wrote what your audience may be more familiar with.
Starting point is 00:24:49 He wrote the book Dreamland about the opioid crisis in America, and now most recently The Least of Us about fentanyl. And he does the reporting. He knows the drug. He knew where all the meth was coming from. It was coming from like one town in Mexico. Now it's changed. It's gone out to the cartels. But he knows everything about the drug problem.
Starting point is 00:25:13 It is not coming from China. Meth is being made in Mexico. The opioid, it is all coming from Mexico. Is it funded by the CCP? No, I don't think. Not that you would know for sure. The reason the Chinese couldn't, Chinese used to send the precursor chemicals
Starting point is 00:25:33 or they would send the heroin directly or they would send the meth directly. But the problem is that's all in individual like FedEx packages and they do it. But for one thing, weirdly enough, the Chinese government actually did kind of step on them. But it was just inefficient. You need to be on the border. You need to get it straight across. And, you know, they'll say, oh, but it's not all Mexican.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Some of our American citizens. Yeah, they're anchor babies. It is an all Mexican operation. Interesting. I thought I've been thinking of it as a like just a continuation of the drug war the opium wars the how the british set up shop in taiwan and then just started shuffling yeah opiates into china and the chinese never you know play the long game but you're saying it's more of just a financial mexican issue right now do you feel like since it's a and i think i'm sorry just to finish that it is opium wars, but it is Americans against Americans, the same people who don't want a wall. There is a crazy left. I'm not talking about all Democrats. Many liberals are my best friends.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I'm not talking about all liberals at all. But there is an element of the left that just hates this country, and they're fine with Americans dying of opioids. They are fine with 100,000 Americans dying from drugs every year. These people also, I guess paradoxically, don't even know what life outside of the United States is. They think the United States is evil, and they have no idea they've never been
Starting point is 00:26:59 to these other countries. Because if you go to these other countries, and you're like, wow, America's pretty nice. For all the bad things. I remember when I started traveling for Vice, after a couple of these countries i come back to the u.s and i i got like randomly searched by the border patrol they made me pull their passport went through my bag and i'm just laughing and then they like they they see the arabic in my passport like what's this and then i was like i don't remember what country that was egypt i think or something did I go? I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Oh, no, no, no. It was Morocco. And they were like, oh. And then they were like, what's funny? And I'm like, I love this country, man. I'm like, it's just like everything's nice here. I come back from, I was in Brazil or something and you see how good we have it. It's decentralized law enforcement
Starting point is 00:27:39 is what I'm sold in the United States. Local cops is the key to prosperity. Having a federal system where they're like, they decide one day that this is illegal now I'm sold in the United States. Local cops is the key to prosperity. Having a federal system where they're like, they decide one day that this is illegal now and everyone in the country is like- The key to everything is local. Yeah, I totally agree. And I didn't know that until I went to Chile and Peru
Starting point is 00:27:58 and saw the federal cops on the corners. I'm like, this is so ominous. We have no idea what it's like in other countries, especially because we are so used to complaining about America, right? Everyone's saying America is so racist and America has all the cop problems and like travel at all, go anywhere and you will be happy to be here. Do you think that Mexico poses enough of a threat to American lives to be worth invading at any point?
Starting point is 00:28:21 It wouldn't be necessary if we built the wall. Yeah. But yes, to take out the cartels i mean it's certainly more of a threat to us than ukraine right and we sent a ton of money shipping goods and resources to ukraine why wouldn't we just spend that money on the wall on well not only the wall but as for you know going into their country um i mean i don't know this is kind of racy but but yeah, take out the cartels if they can't do it by themselves. We went and we got,
Starting point is 00:28:48 remember that guy, Pineapple Face? The first George Bush sent U.S. troops. I think I was like four years old. Okay. Pineapple Face is a solid nickname. Here, I'll look it up. Just to get good.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Pineapple Face. He was like in the late 80s? It was a big thing but it was the first it was the first george bush sent in our our military to to seize this manuel noriega yeah manuel noriega i typed pineapple face and he showed up on google on the google search really panamanian but that's panama does it say bush that isn't i maybe i wouldn't have guessed that that's Panama. Does it say Bush? That isn't, maybe. I wouldn't have guessed that. That's a funny nickname.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Why are you thinking about him, though? Because we sent the military to get him. I'm pretty sure that was Noriega. That was your question. We've done it before. And wait, if I could get back to your point on local police. It's not just the police.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Look at the COVID rules. Thank God I'm not taking the Lord's name in vain. Thank God we could go to places like Florida. What if, I mean, Trump did shut down the country, you know, because he's so for freedom. california versus versus texas actually texas wasn't that good georgia was good florida was good i don't know whatever places you were looking at moving to in 2020 you will remember everything should be local give us a choice let us vote with our feet yeah military centralization of military authority law making and dude the the medical tyranny is i am on alert for medical tyranny i know the nazis did lots of medical science experiments on living people and i'm not down with that in real time we're doing it on adolescent girls right now yeah we are and they're miserable i mean with medical tyranny during covid the local governments were the most likely to resist right bigger cities and everyone else
Starting point is 00:30:40 were more likely to give in if you went to any small town in america they operated differently they operated independently because they know their community and they know what they can handle or the third largest state in the union florida oh hey so what what this um gun running that obama did the fast and furious program was he sending arms to the cartels Is that what happened? What happened was, wow, that's a blast from the past. No. Yes. Yes, he was. And the reason, they weren't intentionally, hey, we have a program. Although that was the suspicion of a lot of Republicans.
Starting point is 00:31:21 They wanted crimes being committed with American guns. What they claimed to be doing was putting tracers on the guns they were sending, and then they could follow where the guns were going, and they could see where the cartel's hideout is. And we could follow the cartels, except the way it was being done was so sloppy. A lot of the guns didn't have tracers on them way more than were necessary. They didn't follow where the guns were going, which made some people think,
Starting point is 00:31:52 you just want an argument to say all this cartel violence is being done with American guns. We need more restrictions on buying guns in America. I'm concerned about actively giving our weapons to other people so that we can test our own weapons against our own weapons like in the ukraine we surrender not in ukraine geez the surrender we surrendered in ukraine and guys that's what i'm about to say uh yeah yeah biden surrenders the military in afghanistan to the taliban the greatest military on earth he surrendered it to this local militant group the taliban for some reason um and what is that reason well at first i just thought it was incompetence now i'm wondering if lockheed wants
Starting point is 00:32:28 their arms in the hands of enemies so that they can test their weapons because they have no test grounds not just test but so that there's a reason to sell more weapons yes oh no the taliban now has you know black hawks and scud missiles or whatever so we're gonna have to buy more from us it's the same argument with big pharma making you take drugs that give you side effects that mean more drugs, right? Like,
Starting point is 00:32:49 if we arm people that we then are like, it turns out they're a threat when armed. Anyway, so send in the military and what does your military need? Our guns. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:57 It's a perfect scheme. I wanted to ask you, Anne, what was your, where were you at on the Iraq war back in the day? Oh, I'm so glad you asked. I just did a sub stack with my friend Mickey Kaus, a liberal.
Starting point is 00:33:12 And I forget why or how it came up, but I put in a little plug for what my position was. And I would still have that same position today with the caveat. It wasn't go hang out for 20 years and paint george floyd murals and teach girls about feminism in these backward hell holes well what else could you do but no i was i was very much in favor of both afghanistan and iraq and I would be again today, other than not being able to trust, I mean, Eisenhower was right with the military-industrial complex, and I think you're right. It is about selling weapons, and I think the lobbyists for these arms companies, I mean, it is just endless, the wars. Why were we in Afghanistan for 20 years? And I would remind you, well, okay, maybe you were in first grade when this happened, but we took Afghanistan in two weeks. And after that, every year of the Bush administration, I'll have Ian check me, he has his computer open there, there were like 33 American deaths 50 american deaths 40 american deaths and for some reason liberals got it in their heads that you know afghanistan that's the good war in iraq we
Starting point is 00:34:32 hate that war so he was so obama pledged to pull troops immediately out of iraq and send more troops to afghanistan i did not understand So you will see when Obama comes in, suddenly it like doubles and then it triples. We were getting like 50 deaths a year until 2005. There's 100, 100. And then in 2008, 156.
Starting point is 00:34:55 300 in 2009. 500 in 2010. Yeah, for what? We won in two weeks. Knock out the Taliban. Now, I liked Iraq. Not for as long as we went, and don't abandon them as quickly and poorly as we did,
Starting point is 00:35:13 because, and I don't know, maybe this is caring too much about the rest of the world, and I should do what I always advise senators like Tom Cotton to do. Please come back and care about our country. You're so good when you talk about our country. Stop being a neocon. But the funny thing about the Middle East, and we obviously did have a big problem with the Middle East and these crazy mullahs after 9-11, is that by and large, the countries either have sane leader, insane people, or insane leader, sane people. And Iraq and Saddam, it's not like we were taking out the Iraqi Benjamin Franklin. There were a lot of problems there. He had tried to assassinate a
Starting point is 00:35:52 president. He had used chemical warfare. He had those lovely sons, Uday and Qusay. But mostly, he was crazy. But it was a very pro-Western, highly educated populist. So, yeah, I liked Iraq, and I made these arguments at the time. I never cared about weapons of mass destruction other than to taunt the New York Times for saying, we need UN approval. Well, okay. He's defied the UN resolution. So I thought there were a lot of reasons for going into Iraq, but one of them was to have an Arab Israel, to have a democracy.
Starting point is 00:36:28 It doesn't have to be like, you know, Vermont. But something more like a functioning democracy without a crazy guy as the leader. And by the way, I think we got that. I think Iraq is better today than it was then. It would be a lot better if Obama hadn't pulled
Starting point is 00:36:44 all the troops out what they wanted for afghanistan was south korea that you stay in the country occupying it for 50 years and you create two generations of westernized population in an attempt to nation build and stabilize which i don't think is any of our business also the internet it makes it almost impossible to do that with the internet because you can't control the information flow anymore. Everyone knows what happened. That's true. That's what they wanted, though. They wanted to create a generation.
Starting point is 00:37:09 They wanted to create a generation that would create a more westernized Afghanistan. I agree with you that nation building is totally foolhardy. I'm describing something slightly different with Iraq. I just want to point that out. Afghanistan, you know, they have three working toilets. Iraq, compare the literacy rates of those two countries. So if you're starting with a populace that is already educated, knows how to read, and they have working toilets and don't look at it like it's a spaceship. Okay, that's something you can work with.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I don't want to stick around and nation build, but if you just knock out the crazy leader, they ought to be able to take it from there take away the barrier yeah yeah yeah exactly uday hussein was such a psychopath if you study his he was like had a the iraqi soccer team one of the worst most despicable people probably ever dude there's documentaries about his behavior he would go in and like whip them and then if they if they didn't play well enough he would like beat the hell out of them after the games and they were all terrified because they couldn't speak out or he'd have them killed. That's so tame though in comparison.
Starting point is 00:38:08 If anyone wants to go watch stuff about Uday Hussain, you should do it. It's crazy. What was the dinner party thing? I mean, I don't know if I should say that on YouTube. Really? I mean, what's a family-friendly thing? It's only gruesome.
Starting point is 00:38:19 It's not about transsexuals or anything. Yeah, I think YouTube doesn't actually have any hard rules on talking about war and conflict. I mean, let's just, we can talk about the cultural element. In the United States, you can show a movie where people's heads are exploding,
Starting point is 00:38:33 but certain offensive things are taboo you can't talk about. You can't make certain jokes. Yeah, I mean, if you want to go watch some good content on it, who's done a far better story on all of it is Count Dankula.
Starting point is 00:38:44 The whole thing on Uday Hussein. Oh, Mad Lad song? Yeah, Mad Lad on him. It's in-depth. It'll be much better, and it's a nice thick song. And it'll probably be really funny, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:54 And from what I can tell, it's a result of Saddam beating the hell out of his kids and just being a horrible, vacant father. Yeah, maybe. I had a vision of him being like, his one regret in life, Saddam Hussein, is that he didn't spend time with his kids, that he didn't love his kids. I feel like that's probably not the biggest regret. That's so sweet. him being like his one regret in life Saddam Hussein is that he didn't spend time with his kids that he didn't love his kids that's so sweet
Starting point is 00:39:08 it was like his soul that's the cutest thing I've ever heard I pictured him like just wishing that he could spend time with the sunset and his children after all was said and done you are adorable I want to hug you
Starting point is 00:39:24 it's God's energy I think people are giving Ian 20s for this one That's hilarious. You are adorable. I want to hug you. It's God's energy, I suppose. I think people are giving Ian 20s for this one. Or is that the Dankula thing? I don't know. This is a good debate. You really are one of the most empathetic and compassionate people. Yeah, even when you're referring
Starting point is 00:39:39 to some of the most evil people. I am the most, what was it? I'm the most modest. I'm the most modest of all yeah i i radical empathy have i mixed feelings on taking out dictators because like they probably throughout history that's the economic hitman model you try and bribe the country if you don't get that you try and assassinate the leader if you don't get that you go to war and that's what they did in iraq probably i think they well they took kuwait in what the 50s
Starting point is 00:40:01 basically they colonized a tip of it so they could get their oil flowing in and out. I don't know. I don't know about killing a dictator. I just— What do you do? Put them on trial? I agree with you. And by the way, I was totally against the first Iraq war.
Starting point is 00:40:17 To go back to 9-11, when Tim Pool had graduated into second grade— I was a freshman in high school. Well, I would have been. I didn't go to high school. Oh, good. No wonder you're so smart. After something, I mean, we were just, it was just so, so out of the blue
Starting point is 00:40:39 when suddenly we figure out there's this whole region of the world we've never even thought of. We didn't know they existed, and they're over there hating us, hating us, hating us. And so it was different from just like randomly searching the globe for a bad guy to say. It's not like Kim Jong-un. Who cares? And I might even be one over to your perspective, even after 9-11 and wanting to have an Arab Israel so they wouldn't be able to blame everything on, oh, it's the U.S., it's the U.S. that's keeping us down. I might even be one over just because what you were saying about Raytheon and Boeing, it is just so corrupt, so corrupt. Guaranteed contracts.
Starting point is 00:41:25 And Ukraine proves that. It's six arms manufacturers that basically run the world's arm manufacturing, I think 140 billion on paper. Five of the six are American, and then BAE is British. So it's basically one big – they've split it into six companies, so it doesn't look like a monopoly, but they've got the global arms monopoly right now. Oh, incidentally, you know, the other thing that proves is that, no, actually, Americans can manufacture things. Actually, we can sell things abroad. Now, it's a law. When we sell arms to other countries, they have to buy American-made products.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Okay, start doing that with aspirin and masks and everything we're buying from China and all the crap on Amazon. This idea that we can, oh no, manufacturing's gone. Never going to bring it back. Just like the wall, they're not really trying. Oh, we don't even do this. There's graphene. Have you studied this chemical? It's pure carbon. You can get it out of the air, out of the carbon dioxide in the air and turn it into this building material. Graph pure carbon. It's a hexagonal lattice, so it looks like a honeycomb, but it one atom thick it's 200 times stronger than steel it's pure carbon it's electrically conductive you can use it for wiring uh capacitors you can use it for batteries
Starting point is 00:42:31 touch screen wallpaper you can make building and if you drop it this room won't blow up right it's just it's just it's just dust it's like carbon dust and you can you can like mix it with other metals to make super strong materials lightweight electrically conduct we'll be like fix our roads with it we'll fix our railways with it we'll make new stronger railroads that don't bend and cause derailment why do you have a little jar of tim bought it for me as a gift because i love he's obsessed with it but i will say this it's going to be a hundred years in the future everyone's going to have flying cars and jet packs everything will be made of graphene and there's going to be a statue of ian in the middle of New York City.
Starting point is 00:43:06 The patron saint of graphene. And when you walk up, you activate the graphene hologram system. And it was like, in 2020s, Ian Crosland, appearing on TimCast IRL, began his advocacy for graphene. A great man. A smart man. An inventor. Graphene revolutionized the world and
Starting point is 00:43:22 brought world peace and ended world hunger. Well, it'll probably create a new a new era of conflict and but what one possibility is he had started several wars merciless it's like oppenheimer you know building the bomb um we'll start pulling it out of the air and being like this is how we solve the climate catastrophe get the carbon dioxide levels down we start building but then other countries will start and they'll be like uh-oh looks like we're about to pull too much carbon out of the air and the trees are going to die. That's the next climate catastrophe. So we need some global coalition.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Let's jump to this story from the Postmillennial. Fetterman to stay in hospital for weeks for depression treatment senior aide. Okay, so he gets admitted to the hospital because he's lightheaded. The dude had a very serious stroke, and now he's suffering from that thing where he can't understand words anymore. He then gets lightheaded, has to go to the hospital again. Now he's depressed. Now he can't work.
Starting point is 00:44:09 So what are they going to do? So how long until you think Biden or no, it's going to be who's the governor? Shapiro. That's right. How long until he appoints Fetterman's wife? Governor of Pennsylvania. Yes. How long until he appoints Fetterman's wife to the Senate?
Starting point is 00:44:23 Well, the good news is as far and I hate to say this because Shapiro wants to run for president and be the first Jewish president. And of all the people I've heard of being the first Jewish president at the moment, Shapiro looks like the most likely. He's not, he does not appear to be crazy. Now, he was running against Trump's candidate candidate that mastriano who was completely crazy um you think he was crazy yes why do you think he's crazy because he's attending what how about just he attends q anon rallies do not tell me you guys are into q anon no we have master on the show once yeah i asked him to legalize weed he said no so i was kind of like that's it i would make a death penalty for weeds so you're not supporting me either it's all about dosage
Starting point is 00:45:11 but i'm sorry the libertarians are in the chat are going to lose it oh we can do that but we but we do have to get to my comments on nikki haley um and so federman is in the senate in the first place. Never forget, because of Donald Trump endorsing Mastriano. Do you think Trump should have not endorsed anyone in the Pennsylvania race? Or was Mastriano particularly divisive to the voters? I mean, the whole thing basically from January 11th, all of these candidates running on 2020 being stolen. How is it that I knew a year before the election, huh, he ran on one promise, didn't keep it, not going't win. Of course, and he was running against, you know, a guy with senile dementia who was a moron
Starting point is 00:46:07 even when he was firing on all cylinders. So, yeah, with the crime, I mean, things looked pretty good. Only Trump could have lost that election after all of the antifa and the looting. Well, Republicans didn't understand ballot harvesting. They did not understand
Starting point is 00:46:23 the procedural changes. I think it's all Trump. He's lost the last three election cycles for us. Yeah. And the last one, the midterms, oh my gosh, things couldn't have been set up more beautifully for us. But I think it's ballot harvesting. No, that's a very bad thing. We need to do it too.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Yes. I think Lauren Boebert's district is a good example where she narrowly wins by only a few hundred votes and you're asking yourself whoa whoa whoa whoa how does that happen this is like this is like a rural conservative district ballot harvesting she's kind of nutty i think she's all right we had her on the show i think the issue is that it doesn't you you don't need to convince someone to vote for you anymore they show up knock on the door and say republicans are fascists right fill out the ballot and then people go well you got it they figured out that democrats are low information voters and always have been conservatives and the factions within the right and republican argue with each other oh yes right so you might think she's nutty
Starting point is 00:47:20 she might think you're nutty and you're both trying to exist in a similar space whereas democrats don't know anything right and are just told to vote and do that's why that's why they want 16 you're absolutely right so the only answer is ballot harvest back i guess well the answer is you should have to show up and vote in person fight your way past the black panthers go into the ballot room doing secret ballot i i would get rid of all mail-in ballots, and that would hurt Republicans most of all. I mean, probably we should allow states to have, with an excuse, a mail-in ballot. That's not supposed to be. But the Democrats—
Starting point is 00:47:57 I would even be willing to sacrifice those. And who—look, make Election Day a national holiday. How about that? National holiday, but you have to show up in person because democrats have always cheated there are a million different ways they cheat ballot harvesting is one of many but understanding these were i'm doing air quotes for legal because the question the question is constitutionality yes in in pennsylvania a lower court ruled it was unconstitutional to create universal mail-in voting, but it was done with the legislator, with Republicans and Democrats. And then what happens
Starting point is 00:48:28 is Democrats, imagine New York City, one activist, how many doors can they knock on in one hour when you go into one building? And Republicans have to drive. I mean, if you're going to come on to West Virginia. No, but it's more than that. That's why what you were just saying about how many can you knock on, how many doors can you knock on in a day. That's why when they extend mail-in ballots for like six months before the election, that gives them a lot of time. They can drag a lot of time to knock on doors. You are absolutely right about that.
Starting point is 00:48:58 The more time they have. I don't care. They're driving people who are Fetterman's mentality to the pole and tell them how to fill it out. But you got one day to do all your cheating. Here's the issue I see. As I've been describing in the past couple of weeks, the United States is suffering from left hemisphere hypoxia.
Starting point is 00:49:18 You know, they say when you're on an airplane, put on your oxygen mask before you put on the mask of the person sitting next to you, because if you become hypoxic, you become delirious and you can't function they have these videos where they'll put people in a in a pressurized chamber and they'll start lowering the oxygen percentage while having them answer math questions oh really the people who are becoming hypoxic don't know they're chicken scratching and writing gibberish garbage their brain tells them they're correct and then when they increase the oxygen back to normal, they go, whoa, wait a minute, what did I write?
Starting point is 00:49:48 I didn't even realize. Yeah, because your brain's not working. So here's what happens. The Democrats are going after what I would describe as the hypoxic voter. People, imagine this. That is so beautiful. Seven years of fake news about every subject.
Starting point is 00:50:04 And they're swimming in it. That is so beautiful. Seven years of fake news about every subject. Yeah. And they're swimming in it. So they say your body is completely reborn every seven years, right? Every cell in your body has changed over seven years. These are people whose entire existence is within the confines of the media narrative fake news machine lying about everything. That is the left-hand hemisphere of our country's brain,riveled withered and hypoxic how do you get the and they're voting yes so the problem is you will get a calm rational like even bill maher who's a liberal will complain about wokeness and say
Starting point is 00:50:38 there's something wrong with this he's trying to to understand but even he is somewhat trapped in that and those fake narratives he's going to be in my even he is somewhat trapped in those fake narratives. He's going to be in my sane liberals club. Right. Oh, nice. But so how do you convince someone? Like, imagine this. Imagine you're on a plane and all of the oxygen masks drop down.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Everyone on the right side of the plane puts their mask on. All of the masks on the left are broken. And then when the people on the right are saying, put this mask on, they're going, get away from me you fetched and they're swinging at you then they say we're gonna we want the pilot to press the emergency button you're like no stop you're you're hypoxic you don't know what you're doing you're gonna crash and that's that that's how i view i love that that's my analogy so the so the issue is you get people like sane liberals like bill maher people like me people like dave rubin, classic liberals, people who have now found themselves to becoming conservative. You will go to traditional liberals and desperately beg them to please just read the article from The New York Times that says this. And they go, no, they're absolutely completely demoralized.
Starting point is 00:51:40 And then they will vote. They've always been like that. It's a very womanly party yeah yeah why do you think you and some other sort of people who started left were able to put on oxygen masks though like what how come some of you are making it out there is a same liberal liberals club but a majority of people can't well i think it has to do with even if your oxygen mask is on the signals from your brain can't travel to the rest of your body if you have no spine so for many of these people it just didn't work there was no hope
Starting point is 00:52:12 well what i mean by that is there are a lot of people who know they're lying there are a lot of people who are liberal who are just like hey man if i speak up look i get messages all the time from people who are like i really love your show i respect what you do and then i say hey man you should speak up i i know pro athletes and they'll say they'll message me saying like i wish i could but i'll lose everything and i'm like no it's true but i'm like dude you don't need to come out and wave a trump flag right you simply need to come out don't when someone says something woke go i don't know about all that that's it that's all i'm saying you're totally right they won't do it. They won't. Well, they might. You got to shake them out of it.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Some of them are. I think a lot of why you never went crazy, and to answer your question, why some people don't get hypoxic mentally is high altitude training. If you're constantly working the muscle, you're kind of able to resist. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:52:59 So for me, I was traveling around. I was doing news. I was going to Trump rallies. So when a story would come out. Weren't they fun? They were fun. And Trump's a comedian. He's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Not so funny anymore. He's lost it. He doesn't have that same comedic. Some people still really like what he's saying, but I do think he's lost a bit of it. Or a lot of it, I should say. But I would go to a Trump rally, and then I would talk with a Trump supporter. And I remember I'm in Fort Lauderdale. is 2016 right 2016 yeah that was great i'm in fort lauderdale and i'm talking to a woman i i was think i was living in miami and she i think yeah
Starting point is 00:53:34 so maybe it might have been 2015 and she says i've never voted before i'm not a republican i'm an independent but trump seems he's the only person talking about issues that affect me and my family. So then I would go to the newsroom at Fusion and they would say, Trump is courting white supremacists. And I would go, no, the lady I met was like a construction worker or something. And they're like, that's not true. They're all Nazis. They're all racist. And I was like, no, I'm pretty sure that lady in Florida was just like, right.
Starting point is 00:54:00 One of the one of the ladies I talked to was Hispanic. No, no, no, no. Oh, Hispanics loved him in 2016. Especially in Florida. like some right one of the one of the ladies i talked to was hispanic no no no no oh hispanics loved him in 2016 especially in florida i yes i spend christmas in in palm beach and i i was going around to christmas parties 2000 oh this is 2015 so when he first announced and wilbur ross has a place in palm beach he was like wandering around like a zombie starstruck and he kept going up to everyone at these christmas parties saying i don't understand it we're all for jeb and the hispanic help is all for trump trump i i i met a lot of hispanic people uh in
Starting point is 00:54:38 florida who were just like we know what socialism is man bernie scares us and i'm like that's not surprising to me you know 2016 i thought um my full um it was like a full-time job going around to bars in new york and convincing bernie supporters that they had to vote for trump full-time job or full-time hobby because i feel like you would have so much fun doing that well you can love your job but between i mean among the three of them actually among all the candidates bernie and trump are the closest at least in what trump said yeah trump was great on the campaign trail i mean i still didn't expect him to win i thought for sure the military complex had him down hillary had it and then when he when he won i was like like knocked out of breath but then he went on script right after he got elected he started reading off a prompt and then he hadn't
Starting point is 00:55:24 done it the entire time he was running and i was like this guy's just a sham isn't he he's just a fake and then he made john bolton one of his dudes and the war machine moved on he did get us out of trans-pacific partnership i think he i don't know if he realized the level that the liberal economic order was planning to become the new world order no no no it's not like don't give me the oh we tried they started you know too bad he wasn't president. He didn't try. He didn't care. He wanted to sit in bed and tweet. That Trans-Pacific Partnership, I never told anyone this because I'm a vault if I talk to a politician. But it leaks like two months later, so I can say it now. I went to see Trump like February of 2017 after he was elected. And I just stood at the Resolute desk and yelled at him for 15 minutes. And I didn't use the F word first. But once he used it, ooh, was that flying.
Starting point is 00:56:15 So I think the entire West Wing heard it. And that's how it eventually leaked. But Trans-Pacific Partnership, I said, what are you doing? What are you doing? Where is it? You haven't done it. You're not starting on the wall. You haven't done anything with Trans-Pacific Partnership.
Starting point is 00:56:27 And he didn't know. He didn't care. Kim Kardashian was his next appointment. Did you feel like that was the problem with Trump's time in office, that he didn't have enough people pushing him to keep his campaign promises? Who hires the people? He brought in Jared Kushner. Look, he ran for president before.
Starting point is 00:56:47 At this point, Tim Pool was in sixth grade. When Trump first ran for president. What year was it, 2000? I don't know. When was he running on? No, because it was. It was Obama. Reform Party, right?
Starting point is 00:56:58 Yeah. And what did he run on? He ran on Obama not being born in this country. So he activates the crazy. Hannah Clare is younger than I am, mind you. She knows that. She's been with me for a long time. He activates the crazies.
Starting point is 00:57:09 It doesn't work. The three elections since 2016 haven't worked. Activating the crazies this way, that way, the election was still. The one time he won was when he ran on my book, Adios America. It was just something he thought that might work and so he ripped off the arguments in a rather stupid and ignorant way still he was
Starting point is 00:57:36 making the arguments i would write in trump we trust again because given the options but he believes none of it he understands none of it of course he could have hired my question is who gave him your book right like i feel like he must have at one point around people but who was like you should read this book it's a good idea right because it was i think it was a strong book he knew when he ran and i was making fun of him on the on the when he ran the first time on the Obama birth certificate. One of my friends was a reporter in New York, and he said he's reporting on Trump, and he was threatening to run for president, and he was talking about the Obama birth certificate.
Starting point is 00:58:14 And my friend, I think he was a New York Times reporter. Anyway, he emailed me and said, everybody else who says you're wrong about the birth certificate, he's denouncing, he's calling these horrible names. And somebody yelled out, hey, Ann Coulter says, whatever I had said about him being completely wrong. It was a crazy idea. And my friend said he started to attack because that was the mode he was in. Oh, I know what it was. It was specifically Ann Coulter says you're never going to run.
Starting point is 00:58:42 And he starts to do the attack and then pulled back and said, well, she'll just have to wait and see. So he knew to be careful about crossing me, even back then. And he had invited me to lunch, which I went to only because I wanted, when I walk on the beach in Palm Beach, to jump over and go in the swimming pool um and so he had been appealing to me he i think he had just like this animal sense of she says things that are popular with americans yeah interesting but i think that was the end of it he obviously did not care about immigration but he so he didn't come through with his immigration platforms but was polling pretty well up until covid do you think that the american public also forgot that he had promised to do
Starting point is 00:59:28 all these things? I mean, what was, no, I think the only votes Trump got were, were opposition votes. Really? To Biden and the craziness and Antifa and,
Starting point is 00:59:37 and black lives matter. And even though he, all he did was tweet law and order exclamation point, at least he's not these people. Yeah. But the black lives matter summer was like pretty crazy. All he did was tweet, law and order, exclamation point. At least he's not these people. But the Black Lives Matter summary was like pretty crazy. That wasn't enough to push him over the edge. Well, A, he didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Yeah, he should have brought in the military. Yeah, he should have. In Portland, especially after 100 days of firebombing a federal building, and he didn't do anything about it. They burned down the police precincts in Minneapolis. And by the way, who suffers the most? they burn down the police precincts in Minneapolis. And, and these, and by the way, who suffers the most? Um,
Starting point is 01:00:09 people in the bad neighborhoods. I agree. I can't get down with anyone. That's platform is that's bad. That's, that's worse. So put me in like, why give me a reason to live?
Starting point is 01:00:20 Yes. You know, not just a reason to push death away. Yeah. I want, I want to pull up your sub stack and we have this Anne Coulter sub stack, Unsafe. You have this, this is really interesting, letter from
Starting point is 01:00:30 the New York Times executive editor Joe Kahn to staff writing about what happened with the trans rights activists and leftist activists coming after them. But do you want to give us the gist of it and break down? Well, it was leaked to me. I was the first one to send it out. I mean, I know this from other reporters at the New York Times. They do still have some serious
Starting point is 01:00:52 journalists who know how to do journalism. They're very smart. They're very skilled. But then, I don't know, a few years ago, they brought in all the wokesters. And it's just like this cloud of locusts who go around attacking people who are doing the actual job of putting a newspaper out. And the executive editor is this guy, Joe Kahn. I looked him up on Wikipedia, very impressive person. He's old style New York Times, which I disagreed with. It was liberal, but it was written well, and they didn't lie. The crazy thing, this letter, he's sending it around because actual, I guess,
Starting point is 01:01:28 reporters and editors and probably HR representatives at the New York Times have signed on to this letter representing the trans people attacking the New York Times for its coverage of trans issues. And it's a very gentle letter,
Starting point is 01:01:44 but it is him standing up to the wokesters saying, you can't be an activist and attacking people at the organization you work for. And that's the gist of the letter, which shows that there are still some sane people
Starting point is 01:01:59 at the New York Times and who knows. And as soon as they retire. Yeah. Yeah, the woke people take over and then the new york times i wouldn't be surprised if they change their name to like you know uh down with whiteness times right that org or something the only reason i think they wouldn't is because it's such an institution and they get to say we are the oldest newspaper and therefore we are the
Starting point is 01:02:19 authority on newspaper of record yeah right yeah the tagline democracy dies in darkness or something. One of my commenters on the stuff is that said, if you didn't do this for a living, would you subscribe to the New York Times?
Starting point is 01:02:34 And I thought about it. No, no. I'd read the Daily Mail every day. But they have 10 million members paying what, like 10 bucks a month? Some ridiculous number.
Starting point is 01:02:45 I mean, in some ways, it is the leading newspaper in America, right? People think of it first when they think of it. It's just fake news garbage. Yeah. I mean, people are, it would be better to subscribe to your local newspaper and get actual news from people who know what's going on in your life. That's going to be AP, though. But instead, if you want to feel like you are, I mean, some stuff is going to be AP,
Starting point is 01:03:02 but local crime, for example, that's going to be local reports. Things that will actually. Or daily mail. Right. Things that will impact your life, you need someone who's actually reporting on them. And I think people instead see it as like, oh, well, I'm an informed intellectual. I read the New York Times. I mean, I know some people who very well intentions will tell me, oh, I listen to the New York Times daily podcast. And that's where I get a lot of my news.
Starting point is 01:03:23 And they're doing an honest effort to be informed, right? But it's hard to then look at them and be like, but that's not the one. Did you go to TomTimcast.com? I do, all the time. I know. Well, they do still have some good reporters, but you really have to search for it.
Starting point is 01:03:39 And isn't that strange that you have to search for the good reporter? And I think the editors are often, you know, sucking some of the information out. For example, the race of any black criminal. Oh, in Sweden, it's crazy. I remember when I was covering the news, covering the big story in Sweden, when Trump came out and said, last night in Sweden, I went there. They actually, not only would they blur the skin of the criminal,
Starting point is 01:04:04 they would alter the pixel color to make it seem like it was a white person who got blurred. Whoa. Yeah. That's crazy, huh? It's like, dude, come on. That's more racist than my opinion. Wow.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Yeah. It's all just still racism. The idea that you can't, like, they were basically saying the population could not handle learning that not white people would commit crimes. It's like any person can commit a crime, dude. Come on. That's what they do. Also putting a lot of girls at risk.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you go fully independent now? You're totally independent at the moment? Well, I always have been. Oh, so you just like do... I've never worked. I mean, since I left Senate Judiciary Committee, basically. Are you going to write another book?
Starting point is 01:04:46 No, I'd love to ask you guys. For one thing, I've written 13 books, all New York Times bestsellers. They're excellent books. Yes, thanks to Vanessa, my publicist is sitting here. For one thing, I think I've said it all. I mean, Mugged is about crime. I've said it all. Immigration, Trump, in Trump We Trust, trust i'm telling you that is a great book even though he turned out to be a grifter and a liar
Starting point is 01:05:12 um what he was what he was saying and doing was great um demonic on the french revolution and mob behavior about antifa i don't think there's any better explanation of that treason, the history of, um, of a lot of our wars. Um, if you wanted to know about impeachment, I don't think there's, you wouldn't write about DeSantis.
Starting point is 01:05:32 You wouldn't write about, well, I need a point. I don't write, Oh, when he was born in Mississippi, there's gotta be an over a point that I don't think people know. And I think every one of these books guilty about the victimology culture and everybody wanting to be a victim.
Starting point is 01:05:51 He who is offended first wins. There's so much great stuff in that books that anything that is a large topic. I've already written about it, which is more than I thought I was going to write. I thought I was done after my third book. And after book i said that's it i got nothing else you thought you were done after your third book and then 10 books later my bodyguard always said to me you say that after every book have publishers given you a hard time with uh the topics that you choose or do you find that you get free reign because you are such an established intellectual. Well, my second book that your older listeners may have heard me say this. The story in book publishing is you don't make money on your first bestseller.
Starting point is 01:06:33 You make it on the advance to your next book. Well, my first book, Out of the Gate, High Crimes and Misdemeanors, it was a New York Times bestseller and for quite a while. And I couldn't get a second book published i had a publisher i wrote the book my editor died um he was magnificent i dedicated the book to him um and the publisher harper collins rupert murdoch's harper collins took the opportunity to cancel the book and i had you, you know, the star agent, Joni Evans, she was the hotshot book agent, she's shopping it around to all of her pals
Starting point is 01:07:10 on Publishers Row in New York City. And they absolutely would not publish a book by me. And she'd send me their emails back to me saying things like, we know my second book was slander about liberal lies about the American right, a lot about the media. Man, that was a good book. And they'd write to her, we do not think this would move the public dialogue forward. What?
Starting point is 01:07:34 And I'd email Joni back saying, you know, that's so weird, because I thought publishers made money on the basis of how many books sold, not how many inches. They moved the public dialogue forward. And anyway, it was the number one book all summer when crown publishing finally published it and i taunted publishers row all year there's always going to be something to write about because now with like defund the police with crime running rampant the next all in mugged well but i just mean like the next thing's going to come soon right the left will come out with some some new insane policy idea and then you're gonna be like oh heaven's me time to write a book
Starting point is 01:08:08 have you or would you update adios america because immigration is not getting better in fact it's all there i think every word is perfect but you wouldn't i'm sorry i'm sounding like ian now you wouldn't update it with a new chapter after after a biden term biden let in five million illegals i think the book is perfect it's like going back and trying actually the mona lisa isn't that great i'm gonna say touching up it's wonderful in its simplicity the way i talk new i don't know trump talks you know in a in a crude. It's not crude. It's that unlike apparently everyone, as we found out today, who works for Fox, I say what I think is true. I mean, this is my intro letter to Substack.
Starting point is 01:08:55 I didn't mention any particular conservative network, but it's all about being on TV and having a job. And, okay, you may not like what I'm saying, and maybe sometimes I'm wrong. But you can always be sure that I am saying what I believe to be true. We now have all of the Fox hosts saying they knew Trump's election claims were BS. They knew it was crazy. They thought Giuliani was out of his mind and Cindy Powell
Starting point is 01:09:26 was out of her mind and they're going on TV and presenting it to the viewers. So I blame Fox News as much as Trump for what's happened to the Republican Party and why.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Who was it that was saying, did you say you have, you have friends who it was January 6th, they say they'll never vote Republican again? It wasn't me. Oh, maybe it was downstairs in the pool. Because of the way it was handled, they say they'll never vote Republican again? It wasn't me. Oh, maybe it was downstairs in the pool.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Because of the way it was handled? People say they'll never vote Republican after the way it was handled? Yeah, just that it was so outrageous that it even happened. They are blaming Republicans for that. Well, why did it happen? Why is it still happening?
Starting point is 01:09:59 Because, and look, some of these people are my friends in conservative talk radio and TV, and I yell at them all the time. They say, oh, when we have you on, you know, ratings go down, everybody's mad, everybody writes in,
Starting point is 01:10:13 they're, oh, Trump's just... I don't believe that. I fundamentally do not believe that when you go on, their ratings go down. Well, not ratings go down, but they get a lot of hate mail. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:10:21 No, it is the most listened to of the show. Is MSNBC inviting you when you want to talk bad about Trump? No, no, you have to say the same. But I think what happened, the reason they feel like they're getting more viewers
Starting point is 01:10:36 and they're getting less hate mail is after the 2020 election, I have TV on in every room of my house to MSNBC so that I can just walk through the room and hit the mute button and never miss anything they say. Even I couldn't listen to it after, for A, it's very repetitive, but B, once Biden wins, Democrats have the House, Democrats have the Senate. It's like, do I want to see, you know, moment by moment report on a slow motion plane crash? There's nothing we can do we're being
Starting point is 01:11:06 going to be strangled to death until it gets fun until young and ran until the santas is running then it'll be fun again so i think normal people and i'm not even normal and i couldn't watch political news i was just watching forensic files so the only people i think still tuning into cable news are the are the trump fanatics let me let me pull this story from the guardian this is uh fox news hosts thought trump's election fraud claims were total bs it's a quote court filings show comments by tucker carlson sean hendry and laura ingram revealed in 1.6 billion dollar dominion defamation lawsuit blah blah blah quote he's acting like an insane person hennedy allegedly
Starting point is 01:11:45 wrote of trump in the weeks following the elections even billionaire fox owner robert murdoch i don't think it's allegedly did they write allegedly yeah they wrote allegedly it's in the documents he says meanwhile carlson one of the network's most prominent and controversial stars was disdainful of sydney powell a senior trump attorney who repeatedly claimed a million's machines flipped votes cast for Trump to Biden. But didn't, he says, Sidney Powell is lying, he wrote to a producer, the Dominion lawsuit alleges. He referred to Powell in a text as an unguided missile and dangerous as hell.
Starting point is 01:12:15 Didn't Tucker get attacked because he was critical of Sidney Powell and says she has no evidence? I don't think the Guardian piece is telling the story right. I read it on NBC and Forbes and Axios, I think, had it first. And no, there are very direct quotes showing that what they were telling their viewers is not what they believed. And they are doing that still today, acting like, oh, Trump, he's the greatest. He tried to build the wall. But I think Tucker got—
Starting point is 01:12:43 And all of them off camera 100% agree with me on Trump. And I say, why won't you say this on radio? Why are you leaving me out there all alone like I'm the nut against Trump? When you know damn well I'm right. We're at my dinner table. You're telling me this. Oh, because they'll get mad at us. I just, I have to.
Starting point is 01:13:01 I have to break it to them slowly. Don't worry, Ann. It's coming. It's coming. Okay, that's why you need to follow me on sub stack you can learn it from me first and not be lied to do you feel like that's the fate of news media today like you have to find independent people who are operating on independent platforms what is it sure seems like it so what how do you get your news you say that you keep up with the means you're saying. Oh, all the not safe for work sites. Oh, yeah. And podcasting.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Probably you guys, but you're safe for work. Well, I mean, not completely. Sometimes people swear. That's not where you work. We tell people the rules and swearing. It's like a guideline, not a rule. If you swear, well, you know, it's just that some people have their kids in the room.
Starting point is 01:13:39 The problem that Sidney Powell and Giuliani and all these people made is they made definitive claims about things they suspected. I never saw the evidence. I believe if a proprietary voting machine is tallying votes in secret and we can't watch the algorithm that's deciding how the votes are coming out, that's a problem. Because we can't confirm if they did it for real or if they cheated and flipped the votes. We don't know. But to say that they cheated, you better have the evidence.
Starting point is 01:14:03 You better have the proof. Because that's a defamation. I mean, obviously, a defamation claim. My issue is that I think – did you read the article from Time Magazine, the shadow campaign to fortify the election or whatever? Famous. Let me – Oh, I heard about this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Let me try and pull this one up. Time Magazine. Oh, they just – the secret history of the shadow campaign. I'm not going to log in. Let me see if I can just do this. The secret history of the shadow campaign. I'm not going to log in. Let me see if I can just do this. The secret history of the shadow campaign that saved the 2020 election is what they called it. And they talk about all of the procedural changes they enacted to benefit Democrats. They did that right in front of our eyes.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Everybody could see it happening. And they did it through a legal process that some argued was unconstitutional. And we didn't get that adjudicated. The problem I had is early on after the election, everybody was talking about dominion. They were talking about hacking voting systems. They're talking about watermarked ballots, China sending in fake ballots, all of these things.
Starting point is 01:14:54 And I'm like, this is crazy. They were talking about Donald Trump getting reinstated on March 8th, like the true date of inauguration. It's not gonna happen. And then they got mad at me, not saying everybody, but some people got mad at me saying, Tim is refusing to accept it. Now that i'm still in the exact same place where i'm like yes they changed the rules they changed the laws and that's a problem now people are going so
Starting point is 01:15:15 you finally agree with us on the elections hey tim and i'm like no people people were saying that trump was going to get inaugurated in secret and that biden some people were arguing that biden was was in on it with Trump and that he was acting as a dummy president in a fake White House to protect Trump. I'm like, none of that is true. And then people will still say, how did Joe Biden get 81 million votes?
Starting point is 01:15:36 They sent out 81 million, they probably sent out 100, they probably sent out 300 million ballots and then crossed their fingers. They set up in Wisconsin, they had those boxes boxes you could just go and dump stuff. Wisconsin, I think, later ruled it unconstitutional, but then it got reversed or something like that. In Pennsylvania, they defied their own constitution. The legislature got together, and they were about to enact a universal mail-in voting.
Starting point is 01:15:58 Voting stopped because they realized the constitution required them to actually have it in a newspaper on the ballot. So then they changed the wording somehow and pushed it through anyway republicans negotiated that deal with democrats a year before the 2020 election all of that procedural stuff happened how did joe biden get all those votes people weren't voting for joe biden they were voting against trump yes democrats did things like voting in the park where they were like oh our vote our polling stations are overflowing so go to the park they did things like knocking on someone's door vote in the park where they were like oh our vote our polling stations are overflowing so go to the park they did things like knocking on someone's door vote in the park that it happened i'm pretty sure it happened all over i don't uh but i know for sure there was a big issue with wisconsin there was a lawsuit specifically about whether or not it was they were legal uh it was it was constitutional
Starting point is 01:16:38 to do this ultimately what we did they fill out the absentee ballot in the park or did they move the machines to the park they like set up voting locations in the park something like that you could like i think it was absentee you drop it in a box just like on the fly on election day they said it's too crowded here and you should set up here well let me make sure i have the specifics because it's been a really long time since we've it doesn't even matter because you were right the changed rules for covid are things liberals have been trying to do for 20 years, and they used COVID as an excuse to push it through. And it wasn't Dominion. That's the kind of argument that the left makes and that they did make against.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Incidentally, they have contested every presidential election they've lost this century. It's true. Every single one. I do think Ian's right, though. Republicans are the bad ones. This is the first one we contested with all new voting rules. Whomever lost this election, and it was obviously going to be Trump, whichever side lost was going to be ticked off about this election.
Starting point is 01:17:33 You can't create all new rules that have never existed before and not expect the losing side to be ticked off. We should have been ticked off, and you're completely right. It was the new COVID rules. And they've persisted. Yes, should have been ticked off. And you're completely right. It was the new COVID rules. But and they've persisted. And so I think the reason they have. Yes, they have. The midterm election.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Everyone's shocked. How is this possible that all the polls showed Republicans should have swept? But then it was an it was a narrow victory. And it's because likely voters don't matter anymore. The pollsters. That's a great point. They're looking for people who they think are likely to vote, not realizing that that 20-year-old kid
Starting point is 01:18:07 who's playing Overwatch in his living room knock on the door and he gets up and he's like, Mom, I'm going to build a match. What an election. And they're like,
Starting point is 01:18:14 did you fill out your ballot? He's like, no. And they're like, we're going to keep coming to your house and knocking on your door until you fill that out. Okay, fine.
Starting point is 01:18:19 I'll fill it out. What do I do? There you go. Get out. Get out. Or mom comes home and she goes, did you fill out your ballots?
Starting point is 01:18:26 No, mom. I don't care. Fill out your ballots so you're not getting lunch money. And then the kids fill it out. Or the inverse. The woke college student shows up and says, mom, if you vote for Donald Trump, I swear. Okay, honey. Fine. I'll vote for Joe Biden. And then she fills it out. That's the kind of thing Democrats
Starting point is 01:18:41 did. And the nursing homes. And going into nursing homes and here's getting john federman types there was i think it was in pennsylvania i'm not sure which state it was where this was recently it was like the ag said it's legal to ballot harvest in nursing homes all they have to do is sign a consent form and allow the individual who walks in to be their caretaker yeah So I'm telling people in I think more than half the country
Starting point is 01:19:07 ballot harvesting is legal. Democrats are going nuts saying we don't care if they want us in the office. All that matters is they sign their name. Yes.
Starting point is 01:19:15 So people are wondering why did Biden get so many votes but down ballot it didn't because the people who are filling this out don't know, don't care. They're just filling out Biden
Starting point is 01:19:24 and nothing else because you're getting activists going door to door saying vote for filling this out don't know, don't care. They're just filling out Biden and nothing else because you're getting activists going door to door saying, vote for Biden, and they don't know anything else about these other candidates. But if anything was going to be done about it, it had to be done before the election. Sending out tweets saying, oh, this is going to be unfair.
Starting point is 01:19:39 That's not going to do anything. And right now, Republicans need to be doing everything they can to prepare for 2024, cleaning up the voter rolls, cleaning up the voter rules. What people need to understand about Ron DeSantis winning in Florida, everyone wants the narrative to be his policies are so popular. He swung a blue, a purple state red with a million point with a million vote lead when in reality there's two big things he did one his policies attracted all of the moderate to conservative individuals around the country to flee to florida massively increasing his margins red but he also cleaned up the state in terms of how voting is done yes so they they they reverted a lot of these rules they cleaned up the rules lo and behold de santis wins yes. Yes. Yes, absolutely right.
Starting point is 01:20:26 That's what we got to do right now. That's another hit he has. That's why I say he's given us everything. But if he's going to win in 2024, if he is going to run. We need all these states to do it. Yes, you're absolutely right. And not complain about Dominion. I don't like proprietary machines secretly tallying votes.
Starting point is 01:20:41 That should be an open source process where people can verify. I talked to Matt Gates about it. And he's full on interested in blockchain as a verification for our votes. So you still make your vote in person via paper or whatever, but it's tallied on some or multitude of digital immutable systems where we can cross-reference that the vote's still exactly what you want it, what you intend for it to be. Because if you just hand your vote to a corporation or anybody that does it in the back room in secret and then sends out the tally afterwards like that's not secure i don't i'm not saying that they cheated it's just not a security but the covid rules are the big problem do you think that there's a single major issue going into 2024
Starting point is 01:21:19 like you personally believe immigration is the number one issue. Immigration, crime, and I think, I could be wrong about this, but I think what they did to us over COVID is still going to be big. I'm still bitter. And people are still suffering. Anybody with kids who sent their kids to school were masked. Their kids, you know, they weren't getting enough oxygen. The businesses that had their clothes. Businesses went bankrupt. I think
Starting point is 01:21:47 and that was what led so many people to move to Florida. How many days did you wear a mask? I gotta do a quick correction. I gotta do a quick correction on the Fox News thing. Everyone's ragging on all these personalities. But I have the tweet right here from November 2020.
Starting point is 01:22:04 Tucker Carlson said, quote, he would give Sid powell the whole hour on his show but she refused to provide evidence and told them to stop contacting her no my i was saying i think you had the guardian had a bad quote from the secret documents yeah yeah no no i was just saying because yes on that one thing he did say that but there were other he did say that, but there were other... He got roasted for it. But that's not the point. The point is he was also raising, well, there were other quotes suggesting that he thought the whole thing was crazy and Trump was bad. Well, yeah, but on his show, he said...
Starting point is 01:22:40 I'm not... Forget Sidney Powell. Drop Sidney Powell. I'm not talking about her. He did a show talking about the whole election fraud narrative where he was basically like it's not true there's no evidence she's making it up she right right she he's using her in the context of this is not true i'm gonna go get my computer and get the nbc article they were all saying that that they were still talking about
Starting point is 01:23:01 trump and maybe there's something to this. Not Sidney Powell particularly. Yeah, she was the craziest of them all. Can I, I have a different question. Do you mind if I just subject? What do you think of the effort to impeach Mayorkas? Do you think it's going to work? Do you think he's going to resign? Because when McCarthy was trying to become speaker,
Starting point is 01:23:18 he had the whole, and I think Cruz wrote a letter too, saying either you resign now because you've done such a terrible job or you are impeached. I like it a lot better than Hunter Biden's laptop. That's like Benghazi. Who cares? They've got to stop this nonsense. Nobody like we didn't get it.
Starting point is 01:23:33 We didn't. Benghazi was a disaster for for our side. I think Russia was a disaster for their side. This endless investigation. Could you get something done? We're're out we're dying out here so hearings that are toward something toward a policy change pass immigration laws impeach mayorkas yeah i think that would be great do you think that my other question for you is so we just released biden's health document they say he's fit and ready to serve.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Do you believe that? Do you think Biden is healthy? No, I think it's really obvious to everyone. Yeah. I mean, Democrats don't want him to run again. So who do you think the Democrats are going to field in 2024? Exactly where I was going. Weekend at Bernie's.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Really? I think they have to. I mean, look, I could be wrong. He could die. Maybe they can't even do week. But they have the whole media behind them so they can get away with anything. Do you think they'll run him again if they can't? They could do another fake COVID and say, oh, we can't have debates, COVID.
Starting point is 01:24:30 They have the media, the legacy media have so much power. And the reason I think they do Weekend at Bernie's is take Biden out. Who do they got? Newsom. A, he's a white male. Yep. I think maybe these will be famous last words. I think he's a preposterous candidate and what he's done to that state.
Starting point is 01:24:57 No, I think they go very quickly to AOC, Ilhan Omar, Kamala. I think all the ones that you would consider well actually he might not be that bad they're all white men so they're not running a white man i think it would be really funny to see aoc as president because she'd probably rip all her hair out over the foreign policy stuff she'd lose her mind she's not she's she is not mentally capable of dealing with foreign policy i'm not trying to be mean to her no she can't brooklyn bronx aoc i i've look man show her a photograph of what's going on in yemen and she's gonna be like i don't want to do this job can you imagine aoc meeting with vladimir putin like president aoc meets president putin i don't know maybe that seems crazy to me but i mean look
Starting point is 01:25:42 my point is more so when when they to her and say, here's the photos of the Sarin, here's a video of the Sarin gas attack. What would you have to do? Oh, you believed her crying photo at the cage. No, no, no, no. I think she can cry and she can be a social media influencer, but you put her and you show her real conflict and she will literally cry and say, I don't want to do this anymore. It was a mistake.
Starting point is 01:26:03 Yeah. Or you'd be like, hey, so what are we going to do with Lockheed? Where are the $160 billion going? She freaked out because a cop knocked on her door. Remember that story from January 6th? Right, but that's all their phoniness. You think AOC is strong enough to handle a modicum of foreign policy? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:26:17 I think Democrats are absolutely bloodless. If she saw you be decapitated right here right now i think she'd give a nice little smile i don't think so i think she'd she no i don't think she'd throw up i think she'd panic so i think you're talking about all of her oh the children in cages and i'm so afraid i i see insurrectionist i think she's a total a a, I agree. She's a millennial influencer who lives, but she lives in the pastel safe spaces world of wokeness. These people cry because they have to work eight hours on the weekends. You see that video of that woman?
Starting point is 01:26:53 No, I'm not contesting that they're out there. But so you ask her to carry a heavy box and she's going to really freak out. Oh, she'll fake cry about immigrants, ask her to do work, and she'll start bawling her eyes out. I also don't think we're going to ask her to do work, and she'll start bawling her eyes out. I also don't think we're going to have and don't want to have a girl president. No? I think it'll happen. How about my Nikki Haley?
Starting point is 01:27:14 Oh, yeah. Speaking of girl presidents. Let me see. Here we go. You guys ready? I haven't heard this. From NBC News, Ann Coulter tells Nikki Haley... No, no, no. Play the segment. Well, people got to know the context of this. Well, that's just lies.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Right. So Ann says they're lying. They're claiming you said... You told Nikki Haley to go back to your own country in a racist rant against the new GOP presidential candidate. I don't know if I can actually open this, though, because it's... What? You can't play it?
Starting point is 01:27:45 Okay, no, here we go. Leftovers. Or... Is that what he's... Leftovers. I don't want to hear that. He's not... All right, we're getting it.
Starting point is 01:27:54 He's not keeping his from the law. The New York Fox are, but... Yeah, keep going forward. ...a ridiculous care of other Democrats. All right. Except maybe Bernie Sanders. Here we go. That's a good point.
Starting point is 01:28:02 I agree with that. Now, Nikki Haley, I went this whole speech yesterday. Anybody that's ever known her, worked with her, will tell you she's the most ruthless, treacherous, backstabbing snake in the world. But then all these political people are calling me and saying, what does that have to do with anything? That's perfect for politics. That's not a disqualification to run. What do you think? None of those words would have been the word i'd use for her
Starting point is 01:28:27 mine is is shorter and simpler okay uh she's an absolutely ridiculous character and the only people say they support her are people who probably genuinely are um sexist and And, oh, I support the girl. Oh, good for you. You like girls. No, she's utterly, completely, preposterously ridiculous. I don't think she will get more than 2% of the vote. And you know how I hate making predictions about things like that. But she's just a preposterous creature. But her candidacy did remind me that I need to immigrate to India so I can demand they start taking down parts of their history. Well, you are a good... What's with the worshipping of the cows? They're all starving over there, and they're worshipping cows?
Starting point is 01:29:20 Do you know they have a rat temple where they worship rats? Is that true? Hey, baby cake, why don't you go back to your own country and reconsider that history? How about Gandhi's behavior with little girls? Can we review that? I am referring to Nikki Haley, child of immigrants, governor of South Carolina, who immediately, after some psychopath does the mass shooting at the church, yeah, yeah, yeah, hideous. Oh, what will I do? Let's take down the Confederate flag from the South Carolina Capitol. As you know, Mark Simone, I am descended from Union soldiers.
Starting point is 01:30:06 It's my history. This is my country, lady. I'm not an American Indian, and I don't like them taking down all the monuments. Well, I consider them monuments. So the article makes it seem, by cutting out all the context, that you said, go back to your country.
Starting point is 01:30:23 Lady. When what you were saying was, if you're going to take down our history, why don't you go look at what your country is doing with their history? I'm going to immigrate to India and demand they take down any cow statues. I can tell you why the cow is generated by the way. You said, why don't you go back to your own country and consider that history?
Starting point is 01:30:36 Yeah. So I would, I would, my argument would be, it doesn't sound like you're saying, go back to your country. You're saying visit your country to learn about. I'm saying specifically,
Starting point is 01:30:44 and I go on to talk about the indians i'm also you know unlike elizabeth warren i'm not an indian that is part of american history we should revere it and i do revere it and we do revere it um you're saying basically be aware of your own heritage before you start tearing down someone else's. Well, no. This is my country, and these are parts of it, and I'm really getting sick of having our history stripped and lied about, but just taken away. I mean, should we take down the statue of Sitting Bull? He killed a lot of white Europeans, lots of them.
Starting point is 01:31:24 And then he toured with buffalo bill and annie oakley and yeah it became kind of a celebrity and a hero um and yeah you could say he was he was a monster and he and he just murdered all of these people um no it's part of our history we have a really cool country with a really cool history. And like I say, I'm descended from people on the Union side. But the Civil War and the Confederacy, there's a reason both Indians and Confederates are actually very similar this way. They are admired by Americans for their courage and honor, both of them, even though, well, some Indians were lovely and peaceful, and they couldn't, they were so happy the Europeans got here. They had their big, badass European friends with guns to protect them from the other Indians who were slaughtering them. Comanche, et cetera.
Starting point is 01:32:15 Yeah. That's why, I mean, why were the Wapanoag over on the coast? So that we could celebrate Thanksgiving with them. Because they had been driven there by the Iroquois. They were like hanging on for dear life and, oh, Europeans show up and you guys got guns. But having said that, and just beastly animalistic savagery that some of the Indian tribes practiced, at the same time, it's really cool that some of these same very savage tribes had a rule that you had to look at your opponent in the eye as he's killing you. As he's torturing you, you would throw abuse at him.
Starting point is 01:32:54 There's something so macho and cruel about that. And that's why so many Americans, like Elizabeth Warren, lie and claim to be Indians. That's why sports teams are named after Indians. That's why so much of our military armaments, the Apache, they're named after Indians. And it's the same thing with the Confederates. Yeah, it was a losing cause. The men fighting didn't have slaves.
Starting point is 01:33:21 It was an utterly backward feudal system. If they had won, we'd be a third world country right now. But the men who fought... There'd be two countries. It would... They were so crazily brave. When they reenact Gettysburg, which they're probably not allowed to do anymore, every year, the Union soldiers, this was, I don't know, five, ten years ago, they were so overcome with the courage of the Confederate soldiers, who was, I don't know, five, ten years ago, they were so overcome with the courage of the Confederate soldiers who were just giving up their lives and got slaughtered, slaughtered, slaughtered. The Union soldiers and the reenactors, they're all crying about the courage
Starting point is 01:34:02 of the Confederates. We admire them for courage and honor. And the guys fighting didn't have slaves. Give me a break. I think it was like, what, 5% of the South had slaves? Yeah. There were a lot of slaves. Landowners that didn't have to go do the fighting themselves. Yes.
Starting point is 01:34:18 Yes. It was a lot like the illegal immigrant, you know, cheap workers today, I might add. At the beginning of Adios America, this is the last thing I'll say about this. At the beginning of Adios America, I'd like chapter one. I have a quote from Louis Brandeis, liberal Jewish Supreme Court justice describing, and I don't remember this off the top of my head, but I remember the concept of it. He said, when you become an American citizen, it's more than learning the customs, the rules, the Pledge of Allegiance, the laws. You must love this country with all of your heart.
Starting point is 01:34:52 It should be a part of you. And I feel that way. I know immigrants who feel that way. I do. Nikki Haley isn't one of them. She's from South Africa. Hey, you're not from here either I can answer
Starting point is 01:35:06 hey I was an anchor baby I was born here the reason why they worship cows in India is because out of their poop cow poop grows
Starting point is 01:35:13 psilocybin mushrooms and then they eat the mushrooms and they trip yeah ancient history like way back yeah thousands of years that makes it so much
Starting point is 01:35:22 more interesting I'm pretty sure that's not true if you have another reason why? Yes, I do. My chaos never ends. They don't eat them. What I learned from a friend of mine who is Hare Krishna and from India is that they don't because cows produced milk and they use that for all of their food in production.
Starting point is 01:35:40 That too. And killing the cow restricted your ability to produce milk. Dude, Christmas is also an Amanita Muscaria tradition of the shaman getting mushrooms and then drying them out above the fireplace in socks. We're going to go to Super Chats.
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Starting point is 01:36:17 Yeah, Tim, I think we should do more of those by the way. I think that's like a really good opportunity. Yeah, on Fridays maybe? Yeah, specifically. We would have had more time
Starting point is 01:36:24 with Kanye for instance. Yes, we Fridays maybe? Yeah, specifically. We would have had more time with Kanye, for instance. Yes, we should consider that. All right. I'm not your buddy guy says, please help me escape Canada. Our country ruled today that the use of wartime measures
Starting point is 01:36:34 against the truckers was not only lawful but appropriate. Help me. Not every law is good. I'm not your friend, guy. If you have evil laws, you kind of have a duty
Starting point is 01:36:43 to bypass them. I think the trucker thing was so incredible, what they did in Canada. I feel like we should never stop talking about it. And I'm sorry that Canada hates you and hates freedom, I guess. All right. Miles Kinslow says, hey, guys, wish everyone well. If Ann Coulter ran for office, what would her slogan be? Coulter gets results.
Starting point is 01:37:02 Coulter gets results. Yes. Oh, yeah? Well, there you go. Is that going to be your slogan when you run? Vanessa's over there pitching as her campaign manager. You said we don't want a lady president? Yes.
Starting point is 01:37:13 So you don't think you would be a good president? No, when people tell me to run for president, I say I don't think there should be a woman president. And you're against women voting, too, right? Yes. The boys always hate this. Yeah, the guys on the show are always like the other ladies every time this comes up we hear i feel like a tense room where you guys are like
Starting point is 01:37:29 they're saying it why are they saying oh i don't care don't strip the right to vote for my daughter my future daughter no she has the right to vote she's sentient just like i am i just think it's funny that you you like the you guys are like we should not be allowed to vote and i'm like okay well no i'm not giving up my vote. The other ladies have to. But if they give it up, I will sacrifice my vote. But they have to stop voting. You know what would happen to this country if every woman didn't vote?
Starting point is 01:37:53 Yeah, so we'd never have a Democrat president. Yeah, you'd never have a Democrat anything. The polls show that if only men vote, only Washington and Oregon are blue. Everything else is red everywhere. And the men there are kind of women. Do you have aspirations to dive into politics? No. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:38:11 I want to, as on the drive up here today, I was talking to one of my friends who was haranguing me because he couldn't get me on the phone, saying, you do only four things in life. Sleep, more sleep, skiing skiing and i don't even remember what the fourth thing was um sleeping while you ski so i like my life plan is yes to take lots of naps roll over send a tweet and have president desantis do it well there you go all right clint
Starting point is 01:38:44 torres says tim typically you have my undivided attention but stargate the movie came on so i'm and have President DeSantis do it. Well, there you go. All right, Clint Torres says, Tim, typically you have my undivided attention, but Stargate the movie came on, so I'm going to be a bit distracted tonight. Ian, great show on Pop Culture Crisis today. Thanks, homie. Stargate is good. Stargate SG-1 was way better,
Starting point is 01:38:55 but the movie's all right, you know. Amos Moses says, the Boondocks parody was hilarious. I'm sorry. What was that? They parodied you? The Boondocks? I thought they were talking about something you did. Yeah, they did it on the boondocks parody was hilarious i'm sorry what was that they parodied you the boondocks i thought they were talking about something you did yeah yeah they did it on the boondocks i think they had a feature of you on the boondocks it's a show from like way back when now this is what
Starting point is 01:39:14 happens when you're wildly successful and famous for telling the truth pretty much miss sale frog says ann coulter is anti-immigrant not just just illegals. Correct. I mean, that is not really correct. I'm kind of joking by saying yes to that. But because I will bet you compared to not only everyone in this room, but the person who just wrote that, I have more actual immigrant friends, have dated more immigrants, have gone to more immigrant weddings. So immigrant is the wrong way of putting it. I am against illegal immigration. I think legal immigration is way too high. Way, way, way too high. And why? Because I care about protecting American jobs. I mean, we're shipping all of our jobs to China and Macau and Mexico and bringing in people who will work for less.
Starting point is 01:40:05 I mean, the H-1B visa holders, as I describe in Adios America, they are doing just ordinary computing work. We tell American citizens, STEM, STEM, you've got to go to college, major in STEM, that's where the future is. And then we give all the cheap job the the cheap labor to do the stem jobs now why would apple want to hire a bunch of indians as opposed to a bunch of americans because it's indentured servitude you are attached to the company that brings you in and so if if apple can abuse you underpay you if google gives you a better offer you can't go it is we banned indentured servitude
Starting point is 01:40:47 and this is how they get around it's a modern workaround it's crazy yes yes it is so that's why i think legal immigration needs to come way down and also we just have a very very high immigrant population i think it's very dangerous to have these um you are supposed to you know they call it a melting pot. You're supposed to melt. Would you be open to an immigration moratorium? Open to it, I call for it in the last chapter. I said five years, but that was really a trick.
Starting point is 01:41:13 I want it to be for like 20 years. Do you think DeSantis would enact one? I mean, do you think there would be any U.S. president who would say, yes, we are going to temporarily pause immigration to heal our country. I mean, even when we've had immigration moratoriums, there were immigrants who would get in. We would still, you know. It's never a full stop. Right.
Starting point is 01:41:31 But it's very, very heavy stop. And yeah, I mean, the immigrants we've been bringing in nonstop for 80 years, how about we help them, their pay go up? Who is it hurting to say no more immigrants? Not hurting me. My pool boy gets cheaper and cheaper and cheaper. My gardeners get cheaper. My life is fantastic.
Starting point is 01:41:53 But the immigrants themselves ought to be charging a lot more to do that drywalling. They don't need to. They're a million more and they're coming right across the border. Let's read this from Joe A. He says, I was a student at Berkeley when Ann spoke. I was a moderate at the time, so I didn't attend.
Starting point is 01:42:09 Watching the student's psychotic reaction to her presence started my path to the right. Excellent. One thing I'd like to say about that, there were 2,000 Antifa there to stop me. Why did the speech go off without 2,000? Without a hitch. One reason. I had the Proud Boys. And that's why they want to destroy the Proud Boys and act like they're white supremacists when Gavin McGinnis is on air talking to, what's his name, Tariq, whatever it is, saying, we're not going to January 6th.
Starting point is 01:42:42 We are not going. That is our official policy. They have like 30,000 members of the Proud Boys. And what? saying we're not going to January 6th. We are not going. That is our official policy. They have like 30,000 members of the Proud Boys. And what? A dozen, two dozen of them went there? But the way they treat the Proud Boys, as if they're talking about the Klan,
Starting point is 01:42:58 it's because they don't want people like me to be protected. They don't want people like you guys to be protected. They don't want the poor students coming to see a speech by me. They don't want them to be protected they don't want the poor the poor students coming to see a speech by me they don't want their to them to be protected all right heron gaming says you should have a mr bocus stream and donate to charity to fund stem cell treatment i love that it'd be hard to stream him he doesn't stay in one place we just get him to sleep in one place here yeah he likes my coat he went back he did like your coat you can you can use the lint roller to get all the oh thank you i'll take a little bucko with you for the road
Starting point is 01:43:28 all right eagle eye says i disagree that soros saying desantis is ruthless isn't a compliment for him it's considering soros himself is considered a machiavellian character but he was saying his hope was they go to war so the democrats went in a landslide like that is not endorsing a candidate. No, no, it's not. And you shouldn't pick candidates based on who endorses them or doesn't endorse them. Yeah. Ted Delorio says, from last night,
Starting point is 01:43:52 driving stick when you stop on a hill is at the parking brake. As you let off the clutch, release the parking brake and go. Easy. Yep. I mean, that's still, you know, more complicated than driving automatic
Starting point is 01:44:03 and just pressing the gas. San Francisco. Sir Elliot with a $2 super chat says two buckos. That's right. Ithaca Crime says, Hi Anne, sorry about what went down
Starting point is 01:44:16 when you spoke at Cornell. I have a plan to flood Ithaca with illegals Martha's Vineyard style. Should I go for it? Yes. Is that, well, I mean, just ron de santos get him on the phone it's crazy how they lost their minds over what joe biden was literally doing to
Starting point is 01:44:31 other cities and then they moved all of the immigrants off martha's vineyard as fast as possible but they were like right but ron he was a bad guy we love them they enrich us and get the fuck and they're gonna charge him with like human trafficking at one point they're trying to say like yeah it's like it's like the quintessential nimbyism like right there it's like the definition ron de santis is good rundell schmidt says trump had to fight for years to get the money to build the wall that's why it didn't get finished he needed to get his second term to finish number one he had a republican house and a republican senate for two years and what did he push through a tax cut without ending the carried interest loophole, which is just a gift to hedge fund
Starting point is 01:45:09 managers. Number two, he is president of the United States. He is commander in chief. The number one job he has is protecting our borders. He never needed Congress's approval. All right. Mark Gidetti says the border wall is important but getting the f out of ukraine is way more important desantis won't get us out of ukraine or end the atf well i wish i could expand have him explain that i don't know that that's i don't think i looked this up and desantis i mean governors you can judge them by what they've had to handle like covid um which oh yeah trump totally blew and DeSantis did it right.
Starting point is 01:45:46 Yeah, I don't think he said anything about Ukraine. I mean, but your chat person, I agree with him on, that's the one thing I'm worried about with DeSantis. I don't want him to be a neocon. Yeah. And a lot of the donors are neocons. That's what people are worried about.
Starting point is 01:46:02 One of the big things. Yes. Kenneth Hart says, Mr. Bocas is kidda. 12 out of 10. Would pet. Yes. He would like
Starting point is 01:46:09 if he did. That's right. All right. Pet Rock says, DeSantis ain't about the wall and is lying again. Did you say he was about the wall?
Starting point is 01:46:19 No, I think that person isn't very bright. You said Ron would give us a wall. I hope he will. Oh, yeah? Well, all right. Let's read some more.
Starting point is 01:46:30 Toffera says, Got to push back on Ian thinking the ruling powers want immigrants to fill soldier scarcity. San Diego no longer requires peace officers to be citizens or even permanent residents to enroll. Citizenship is being degraded. Oh, but they're allowing non-citizens to enroll. So that is kind of agreeing with my yeah redoubling your point jeez that's what happened the romans when they started using foreign mercenaries as their military is when it all started to fall apart yeah that's true
Starting point is 01:46:56 reese mendicino says i think y'all should watch kraut's video labeled trump's biggest mistake it goes over immigration trade wars and. I think it's a good video for a different perspective. I've seen that. What's the perspective? I won't be able to boil it down right now. Does it blame someone other than the President
Starting point is 01:47:14 of the United States for what happened under that President of the United States? I think it's literally called Trump's biggest mistake. Yeah, it's, yeah. Trump's.
Starting point is 01:47:23 All right, what do we got? Druid Eros says, Census should have the citizen question by law so the three-fifth clause could have been applied to non-citizens and hit all states so appropriations and representation was more accurate constitutionally i'm surprised the census does not have the citizenship question but of course democrats greatly oppose it they couldn't give us a real reason as to why they did they don't want people to get yanked out of their bedrooms at two in the morning and yeah we're totally doing that you mean people who are committing crimes shouldn't be arrested i'm not sure i follow it's a non-violent crime i think they're concerned about families they're they're police officers in california nobody's getting ripped out of his bed at 2 a.m
Starting point is 01:48:01 also shouldn't we know right if we're supposed to fund everyone who's here and offer them social services wouldn't we need an accurate count of who's here i get the fear but like at some point the logic breaks there's no fear there's no fear it's tough crystal crystal max says and i've been such a such a fan of you probably 20 years i swear i remember you uh you from the lost times of o'reilly and and Hennedy. And Hennedy Combs. Great to see you. Yeah, you were not working. I thought you were working at the network.
Starting point is 01:48:29 So you were always like independent and you'd come in and do like a show. I started on MSNBC. Oh, wow. But weren't they more conservative back in the day? Tucker Carlson was on MSNBC. As we know, Tucker Carlson doesn't believe anything. I don't know. He was on PBS and CNN.
Starting point is 01:48:47 Fox is the last game. I think people used to just have more variety and perspective. Yeah, it isn't just Fox or MSNBC. TV was just better back then. Now you can do it in your sleep. You just say the same things over and over. Yeah, the real firebrands start their own thing, their own network.
Starting point is 01:49:05 Here's a good one. Everybody get your drinks ready. Kyle Miller says, Anne, what are your thoughts of Tim's prediction of a second civil war, civil event happening, they said? I don't, I mean, this will sound funny. I think that's kind of a pipe dream because we feel like we'd win it. I don't think that will happen. For one thing, we happen to be living in a period of time where the most Pacific creature on earth is the white American male.
Starting point is 01:49:33 I think there are two possibilities. We just lose and lose and lose and cower and hide and the whole country becomes California. Or the brighter scenario is we separate ourselves. As somebody was saying, we did over COVID. Oh, you were, Tim. All these people moving to Florida, people moving to Texas. But that's the polarization that leads to civil war. But there doesn't have to be a war. I mean, that is the idea of the Constitution.
Starting point is 01:50:02 And what you were saying about don't make everything national. What's so freedom-promoting about our Constitution is all the big stuff is supposed to be local and statewide so you can live in the sort of society that you find amenable. Don't want gay rights parades? You know, I don't know, move to Alabama. What if they take your son to California to castrate him? What do you do? Well, what if they take them to Turkey and give them a clitorectomy? It would be the same thing.
Starting point is 01:50:31 But you are living in the society you want. Yeah, somebody can kidnap them. Who's the they here? Jeff Younger. We had him on the show. His son was taken by his wife to California where it's a sex change sanctuary. And she's attempting to chemically castrate. No, I know it's a horrible, horrible thing. And there was that famous actress from the
Starting point is 01:50:50 TV show, was it Gossip Girl, who married some kind of Arab and he kidnapped their kids and literally took them to the Middle East. Yeah, that happens. But that's what we're talking about, as opposed to shutdowns across the country, as to for example and we were finally liberated from this one abortion law for the whole country as opposed to vax mandates and and um oh how big our toilets can be you can you will live people are moving to florida because of the freedom because police come out oh and what are they trying to do now they want a national law to take away the qualified immunity from police, which is so utterly preposterous. They want, Hillary wants national, and all the Democrats want national rules for what policemen can do. No, no, no. I want policemen operating in my, I will live in
Starting point is 01:51:40 Florida. Thank you, Joe Biden and AOC. So I think we will divide ourselves up much more. Yes, there can always be kidnappings, and especially with spouses, and they can take them out of the country, forget another part of the country. But except for someone kidnapping your child, probably your ex-spouse, you'll live in the world where we're going to have school prayer in our schools. We're not going to have masks in our schools. We're not going to have teach, you know, kindergartners about anal sex in our schools. And I think that's, you're already seeing it. So, I mean, look at the states that gained population and look at the states that lost population. We are dividing ourselves up. And that's the problem.
Starting point is 01:52:21 I don't think it is a problem. I'm very happy living in a red state. I think there's obviously not positives. You're living in a red state. Well, now you are. West Virginia. Yeah, we moved here a while ago because of this stuff. So what starts with ideological polarization becomes geographic polarization. Geographic polarization exacerbates the tribal conflict.
Starting point is 01:52:42 I don't think there's any conflict there. I think separate, separate. You think by separating, it increases the the tribal conflict i don't think there's any conflict there i think separate separate you think you think by separating right i mean i think canada is a ridiculous country does it affect me no was it going to bother me well it's i'm personally so what happens when california brings in a million illegal immigrants who then vote in our federal who then grant electoral power to california to subvert subvert Texas's will. So Texas now has to live— Well, we're going to have to have a wall. I mean, look, that's a problem no matter what happens.
Starting point is 01:53:10 I don't know how a civil war solves that. I didn't say it does. I said what happened—my view is that a state like Texas is forced by the federal government to adhere to rules put in place by California who's acting unconstitutionally and illegally. That is— States may have to build their own walls. And that's what leads to civil war. No!
Starting point is 01:53:28 States putting up checkpoints and setting up barriers is geographic hyper... Who's going to fire on Fort Sumter? So I think the problem Americans have is... Why does that start? So they shoot across Texas's wall. So take a look at the Spanish Civil War. The American Civil War was not a traditional civil war. The American Civil War was a secession of elements of the country attempting to form their own country. If you look at every other civil war in history, almost all of them, it's pockets throughout the country popping up.
Starting point is 01:53:58 Like guerrilla warfare? Well, that's another reason we should— Cities versus—urban versus rural, typically. But then you'll get a faction. Say they call themselves anti-fascist action, and they're the militant wing of the Communist Party fighting with the fascists. And then it's a neighborhood in this city and a neighborhood in this city, and they've been setting up party houses for organizing politics. They've been increasingly marching through the streets and getting increasingly violent. You see stuff like maybe there's a guy who supports one candidate getting shot twice in the chest by a guy with a with a soviet with a communist tattoo on his neck and then you get uh elements throughout the rest of the country like in texas a man's child being taken to california for castration okay i think that has nothing to do with civil war that can
Starting point is 01:54:37 happen your kid can be taken to the middle east and right but what about the increase in street violence? She tries to shoot somebody. Well, in California or rather Florida, everybody's arms. And in Atlanta, in Georgia right now, a bunch of far left extremists have come down and are occupying a forest in Atlanta. A bunch of far left extremists from around the country are occupying a forest and are shooting at police, burning houses down, flipping cars over. And the cops just shot and killed one of these guys. So they went into the city and started firebombing buildings, and they declared a state of emergency and charged several of the people they arrested with domestic terrorism. Well, the problem you're raising, I think, is the following, that there are red pockets within blue states and blue pockets within red states. And Antifa moving around the country
Starting point is 01:55:26 engaging in acts of terror one one side is going to move out so when antifa goes to a city and starts burning houses down it's what they're doing in atlanta well conservatives just run away right well yes and um probably liberals are going to be moving away from places like Florida, Texas, and I hope Virginia under Yonkers. But Florida shows us that's not what's happening. What's happening is the more conservative-leaning people have fled, but the liberal people stay there entrenching in this chaos. Not in Florida. No, Florida's turning red because what we're seeing is in these other states that are getting too woke— Right, I think people will separate themselves out and then what do you think happens to california new york and chicago when
Starting point is 01:56:09 they run out of resources because their system doesn't work do you think they just ignore the conservative areas with the farms and just say no we're starving to death but you guys are all right well i don't know i just i don't see them coming to you think liberals are content with letting conservatives live their lives and be taking our houses? I just I don't see that happening. And if it happens, then I think we lose because our side won't fight. I agree with that. But the question is, are liberals content with letting conservatives live their lives? No. So why wouldn't they then say your laws are wrong and we will go in? Joe Biden arrested how many pro-lifers? They did. Your laws are wrong and we will go in. Joe Biden arrested how many pro-lifers? They didn't over the COVID rules.
Starting point is 01:56:46 They did. Every night they were talking about, I watch MSNBC, Death Santas, Death Santas, they're dropping like flies. And remember the Atlantic article on Governor Kemp, who is by and large terrible,
Starting point is 01:56:58 governor of Georgia. But he did open the, he was one of the first to open up the state and say we're done with the shutdown to open up the states they were done with the shutdown rules and the Atlantic has an article um Georgia's experiment with human sacrifice so look they were very very very upset that anyone was living free throughout their COVID rules they didn't show up with guns in Florida right New Yorkers didn't come down say, how dare you allow children to go to school without masks. But why would they do that? What I'm saying is we're seeing in blue states limitless abortion and in red states abortion total restrictions or heavy restrictions.
Starting point is 01:57:38 Turns out abortion is, I think, what we're seeing with abortion. I know we're getting off topic, but I think what we're seeing with abortion, I'm just happy we're no longer pretending it's a constitutional right. But looking at the election, I think DeSantis did the right thing. As it turns out, I think what people are saying on abortion is they think it's a murder. They don't like abortion. They wouldn't do it themselves they would tell their friends and and family members don't have an abortion but they don't want the law to say that because that's the way the vote's going so let's let's let me give you a hypothetical i suppose uh i think what oklahoma are they the ones that did like an outright ban hardcore ban on abortion i mean a
Starting point is 01:58:21 couple of them uh the one in kansas just passed again they have a really strict trigger law and abortion the only exceptions are uh rape incest or if there's a very serious fetal abnormality i think oh they have that nut governor who releases murderers that's weird yeah what is it he's ridiculous your audio just cut out and came back oh no no yeah it's uh it's just the the gum so i'm just trying to keep the gum muted. That's all. Yeah, that's all. Sorry about that. So my concern is the Civil War was not, depending on who you ask, slavery was a principal moral
Starting point is 01:58:57 issue that led to it. The South was concerned over, you know, they thought Abraham Lincoln was going to ban slavery. Abraham Lincoln was saying he was going to limit the expansion of slavery. Only like 5% of people in the South actually own slaves. Most people actually, and I'm not going to pretend to be an academic on this one. I know many people reference other individuals. But there were, I think, what, four or was it seven states that did not join the Confederacy until the North invaded, until the North sent troops down to war, did several other states all of a sudden shift in their, and it wasn't absolute. Many of these states that then secondarily joined the Confederacy were like 60-40. Like some of the
Starting point is 01:59:37 people in the state, a good portion were like, no, we can't do this. West Virginia split in two. So what I'm seeing is hyper-partisanship, hyper-tribalism. Antifa literally killed a guy, and the media praises them and says, leave him alone. They literally shot an innocent man twice in the chest in Portland, murder. The guy had a Black Lives Matter tattoo on his neck. And the media still to this day will defend Antifa. They burned down a police station, and the media said, peaceful protest. They tried to put Kyle Rittenhouse in prison
Starting point is 02:00:07 for the rest of his life because he was simply trying to protect his neighborhood and the day prior, someone bashed an old man over the back of the head with a rock. So self-defense seemed warranted in this regard. Now you've got stories of people like Jeff Younger, and he's not the only one. People whose children are being kidnapped.
Starting point is 02:00:23 So the question I have is... Buy a spouse. Absolutely. And a law in California that says we will castrate your child. Yeah. So I look at the stories of, say, Bleeding Kansas and John Brown. Before the Civil War started, Kansas was in its own pre-Civil War as a state that was going to be entering the Union.
Starting point is 02:00:42 It was divided between whether it would be a free or slave state, and people were shooting and killing each other. John Brown walked up to a slave owner and blasted him in the face. No questions, just done. Then he tries taking over the Harper's Ferry. Later on, he goes to Harper's Ferry, tries taking over the armory. Slaves don't revolt. He lets a train leave. Word gets to Baltimore. Federal troops come in. Dude gets captured and eventually hanged. I'd look at things like that. And my concern is the tribal polarization, which has led to death, murder and violence. 30 plus deaths in the summer of 11, 2020. They breached the barricades of the White House, firebombed St. John's Church.
Starting point is 02:01:21 They've torn down statues all across this country with impunity. The only thing I see that makes a civil war not happen is that conservatives tend to be cowardly and just flee. So when Antifa shows up to their city in firebombs, they flee to Florida where it's safe because they have a better leader. I'm not saying all conservatives are cowardly. I'm saying they tend not to leave. But when you say cowardly, I wouldn't say cowardly. What do you want them to do, Tim?
Starting point is 02:01:44 Like when Antifa shows up and throws rope over statues to tear it down? You want them to shoot them? Link arms and... We'll start with this. At your work, when your boss comes and says, we're doing DEI training, you just say no. I mean, I think people do that. With the statues, I think there are people that would... Those people aren't cowards. I mean do that with with the statues i think there are people
Starting point is 02:02:05 that would those people are cowards i mean the thing about the statues is like if you were like yeah i tried to stop a mob of people from pulling over statue during a black life matters rally like if you become vocal about you are more likely to suffer right your company is likely to be like why did you take that position so right now what i hear is a guy who works at taco bell with a black lives matter mask on is told by his boss you have to take it off or else and he says then fire me i refuse to take off my mask they fire him he films himself on video saying they fired me for this black lives matter protesters in antifa inundate this guy with so much psychotic harassment that he begs the guy
Starting point is 02:02:42 to come back and take his job back that was like two years ago that was like two years ago right gives a crap about it bad bad things are happening i just don't see a civil war coming from that yeah that liberals are very very very bad people the media is very very very. The mutilation of children is very, very bad. But, I mean, even with the father you keep talking about, what do you want him to do? Shoot his wife? Shoot the doctor? How does the war start? How about speak up at your job?
Starting point is 02:03:18 How about speak up at your place of work? How about take your kids out of these schools? But, look, the people who are doing those things aren't cowards. I'm not referring to people who are actually fighting and trying to do something and speaking out to the best of their abilities. I'm talking about the people who will message me with influence and say, I will not speak out because I'll lose my job. Well, that's everybody at Fox and all talk radio. So what happens is, as Democrats continue ballot harvesting to the maximum degree, Trump
Starting point is 02:03:43 supporters continually say the elections are being stolen from us. Carrie Lake right now. The end result is not going to be Trump supporters being like, or I shouldn't even say Trump supporters, but however many million, tens of millions of people voted for Trump. It's not going to be every person who voted for Trump who's fervent. But you might be looking at millions and they're not just going to in the next four years be like well you know they put up a good fight and they won through ballot harvesting and other other procedural changes guess i'll just let them keep firebombing my city castrating kids and no sooner or later you're going to see more stuff like we saw with the bundy ranch where people will show
Starting point is 02:04:20 up and say nope to the federal government i was on the side of the federal government in that. I think you will... As much as it looked like the Canadian trucker thing, it was federal land. What was the situation? We had Eamon Bundy on the show. I thought that they were just defending their own land. The simple version is it's a family that's been grazing for generations.
Starting point is 02:04:43 The federal government claimed the land because that's what happens over time. And they said, sure, but we have an easement to graze here. And they said, too bad. So they won in court. They were legally in the right to graze on the land, and the feds tried stopping them. And so they resisted, filed a lawsuit. Then the feds illegally arrested the family, put them through hoax bullshit. Oh, fuck it.
Starting point is 02:05:06 Bullshit trials. And they ended up winning across the board. The federal government overstepped, lied, cheated and tried stealing. You know, in regress to civil war. I did not know they won in court. They won everything. They won everything. The federal government lied every step of the way to steal land.
Starting point is 02:05:22 And then when they were winning winning made up bullshit charges to arrest them and we had emin on the show who broke down exactly what went down how they locked him up for years on bullshit charges transferred him from prison to prison to try and shut him up and stop him and he was in the legal right the whole time and they even murdered a guy there's a video of a guy and they lied about it too holy shit was that fucked up anyway things like that let me talk about the civil war crap we're way over and we gotta wrap if we bury our head in the sand it's gonna go the direction that it looks like it's gonna go if we change the direction then we can take it where we need to take it that's my belief but we'll wrap it up there and it's been a blast thanks for
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