Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #721 Trump Brings BIG MACS And Water To Ohio, SLAMS Biden For BETRAYING U.S. w/Mark Ousley

Episode Date: February 23, 2023

Tim, Ian, Phil Labonte, & Serge join Mark Ousley to discuss Trump visiting East Palestine, Ohio, Joe Biden falling down the stairs of Air Force One, a former Clinton aide found dead under questionable circumstances, and an Arizona man charged with hunting illegal immigrants. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So Donald Trump shows up in East Palestine, Ohio, bringing food, water, and Big Macs. I kid you not. He apparently came out and said, we're going to get everybody some McDonald's. And I appreciate it, man. I'm watching this video of Trump. He's getting a hero's welcome. He's getting a presidential welcome. And he's actually helping people.

Call it whatever you want. Call it a photo op. Call it opportunism. Call it campaigning. Don't know. Don't care. If I see the president of the United States leave this country to Ukraine with five hundred million dollars in cash for a foreign country and ignore the people of this country, I'm going to look to anybody who's helping it out,

which is why I've repeatedly given a shout out to Benny Johnson, who showed up and gave out twenty thousand dollars. He did more than Joe Biden did. And he's just some Internet guy. Donald Trump actually showed up. Means a lot. So we're going to talk about that and a whole lot more. Joe Biden once again fell up the stairs. I'm not kidding. Joe Biden literally fell up the stairs again. Okay. We got a bunch of other stories, too.

So we'll get into all this. But the big story right now, obviously, is East Palestine, Donald Trump, the presidency, politics, and all that stuff. So we're going to get into all that. Before we get started, head over to TimCast.com to become a member and support our work. Go there at timcast.com, click that little join us button in the left, become a member. Tonight around 10, 10 or so, after we wrap the live stream, we will have a live members only show. So we initially would pre-record the members only segment, put it up for members, but now it is live because we figured it out. And we are working on a private discord for members, meaning a private chat for people who want to hang out and chat 24 seven. And then this will

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mark owsley hello hello thanks for having me man who are you good sir well i am host of the unwokeable podcast at unwokeable pod YouTube, Twitter. Citizen journalist and probably the least famous person to be on TimCast IRL, but I appreciate being here. Well, I know we've had like specialists and all that, you know. Yeah, no, but no. We've got followers, you know. No, yeah. So I've got a few followers, but I mainly do work with education and advocacy for kids

and students in Oklahoma, Red State. Right on. Yeah. Well, glad to have you. It should be fun. We also got Phil Labonte hanging out. I right on. Yeah. Well, glad to have you. It should be fun. We also got Phil Labonte hanging out. I follow you, Mark.

Hi, what's up? I am Phil from all that remains, uh, Phil that remains on Twitter. And, I'm here to give my opinion. Here we go.

I have Ian Crossland. I, last night I said some harsh things about Donald Trump. One of which I should say, I don't like talking about people when they're not here. I want to say anything I would say about someone i will say to your face when i see you donald i said that i called you a liar i love you never change please never change i called you a liar i think that just because you told a lie in the past doesn't mean that you are

a liar still it means that you lied so i i'm not going to judge you or call you names or any of that i want to meet you thank god what you you're doing in East Palestine right now, brother. And we can go from there. We'll get deeper into that on the show. If you guys want to, we got Serge Dupre on the buttons. Yes. Nice, Ian. I like that.

That was cool. I'm excited to say that me and Phil will be on Pop Culture Crisis tomorrow. Yes, we will. So check that out. Ready to start the show when you are. All right. We got this story from TimCast.com. Trump receives presidential welcome from East Palestine officials, renders relief amid Biden's absence from region. Trump, this is really America right here. We are standing in America. And boy,

is he correct. Former President Donald Trump has traveled to East Palestine to survey the damage and recovery efforts following the 38 car derailment of a Norfolk Southern train carrying hazardous materials. Officials from East Palestine welcomed the former president, with the chief of the East Palestine Fire Department offering him a briefing one might expect President Joe Biden to receive were he not otherwise occupied in foreign territories.

Who wrote this one? Brett McDonald. I love the just like, it's kind of a jab without being a jab. It's just a factual statement. Check out how the Daily Wire wrote it up. I love this one this one from daily mail i know this menu better than all of you trump orders big max for east palestine first responders and himself after delivering 13 pallets of food and trump water to families betrayed by biden after toxic train disaster i'm sorry man i'm sorry, man.

Where's the picture of the... This is great. Trump's standard McDonald's order, two Big Macs, two Filet-O-Fish and a chocolate shake. That is horrible. Wow. The Filet-O-Fish is like delicious, by the way, but that's a lot of food for one person. Where's the picture of the Trump water? They got Trump water on it.

Look at this. Trump water. I love it. Of course. This is what I absolutely love about Trump. He will come down and he will help all of these desperate people and he will slap his name on the water bottle. Yeah. Really? Well, to be fair, this is what really annoyed me during the Trump administration, among many other things. They would mock Trump over Trump water, Trump magazine

and Trump steak. And what they wouldn't tell you is that this was these were brand products for his golf resorts. So when you go to Walmart and they've got the Walmart brand, it's great value or whatever. When you go to a grocery store and they have their name, that's all it is.

They were acting like Trump was selling Trump water in grocery stores. So I went to Trump Doral once and they were all, all the liberals were like, Trump water went out of business and Trump magazine is gone. I walk in the hotel room

and I look down at the table and there's Trump magazine, a bottle of Trump water. And I'm like, what are these people talking about? These are companies that Donald Trump owns that provide these materials to his resorts. So Trump has a bunch of these water bottles,

probably from a bunch of different resort properties. And he said, grab what we got, ship it out. Every, everybody knows that you go into a hotel and there's bottles of water and it'll have the hotel's brand name on it typically not not always the thing on the the the tier the star rating or whatever but trump has pallets of water at these hotels and just

said load up on my truck we'll pay for shipping and then we can give these to people who need them win win win win for everybody yep well anything they can do to make him look bad that's what they're going to do and and they'll they'll stretch the truth or just outright lie about it but one thing i did like about this was that this is the first sign that i've seen of 2015 2016 trump oh yeah in a long time because he's been really out of the loop he was kicked off twitter kicked off facebook that's not his fault but that left him with it left him unconnected from what made him president you know and so this is the first signs of life i've seen going back to that kind of old school what made him president in 2015 i don't see anything negative about what he just did this

is amazing has it been negative has there been lash like i i'm not seeing any any what can the corporate press say about trump right now to bring him down they better just keep their mouth shut yeah but here's the thing if they come out and i'm sure they could come up with something to attack trump over but all that would serve to do is highlight that trump is there and biden is not where's booty judge did he show up no yeah you know what i don't care if it's a photo op i literally don't care he brought water with him by all, if a photo op means people in need get the help they need, then that's better leadership than what Biden is offering. I certainly wouldn't call it a photo op. It'd be a photo op if he was there looking around and they took pictures.

But he's giving people life sustenance. Well, he's also giving them air. You know, he's giving them air time that they normally wouldn't get. And that's been the problem right now. We were all talking about Chinese balloons while this was happening. And I'm sure that's a serious thing. But it seemed to overshadow this giant problem that was going on in Ohio and that nobody was talking about until well after the fact. And so I commend him if it is a photo op because it shines a light on the problem.

Let's say it's a photo op. Biden couldn't give a damn to take a picture yeah biden couldn't show up for 10 minutes get a picture and leave he could not even do that ukraine's very important you know uh how many people in the united states can point to ukraine on a map yeah how many people in the united states can tell you can name three cities in ukraine or any what do they say oblast is that is that the territories they use i don't know states most people don't even any what do they say oblast is that is that the territories they use i don't know states most people don't even know what it is or where it is and many of these people are flying the flag but i tell you this ask somebody where ohio is to be honest a lot of people might not know where ohio is but most americans probably do and they know it is america

and my question is just why uh why are my tax dollars going to ukraine and not to east palestine this is all good for trump like there's no downside to this and everything that that president biden is doing right now is at best only popular with the democrats and with his base and so i just like you can't you can't criticize trump for any of the stuff he's doing it's it's it's it's all like you said 2016 trump it's all good trump it's all all exactly what he needs and the even the remarks he's making and the you know he's being that funny kind of same dude that people that like Trump really, really like. The everyman Trump, you know, even though he's a billionaire, right?

That he can connect with people that aren't billionaires. And that's, you know, he grew up in New York and that's part of that culture. And so I think that's what's been missing from his campaign and from his persona since he's really been cut off from the American people in the way that made him popular in the first place. You know, my favorite story was the well-done steak with ketchup and how the corporate press attacked him for it. Those that are longstanding fans of the show have heard me mention this story probably

a dozen times, but Trump was ragged on by CNN because he ordered a, it was like a 30 day dry age steak, well done with ketchup. And I'm just like, a lot of lower and working class people who get steaks from the grocery store that are not high quality will cook it through and splash ketchup on it because they can't afford a 30-day dry-aged filet mignon or whatever. Donald Trump was basically signaling to regular working people he ate the way they ate, and they mocked him for it. And when they went on TV and said, Donald Trump, what an idiot for doing this. The people sitting at home were cutting into their well-done steak with ketchup going, you're making fun of me. Like I'm literally doing this right now. Trump knew how to play him. This is what we need to see more of. But I want to show you this too. This one matters. This story right here from WTAE ABC. Giant Eagle pulls water bottled near East Palestine from store shelves. Now, why is that? Why would a grocery store remove water bottles from a spring that was near East Palestine from

their store shelves? Why would they stop selling water that was near this toxic waste dump if the water is safe to drink? The water is fine. That's what they said. And the air is fine. But this store won't sell you the water. You know, I'll tell you this. If the government comes out and tells you the water is safe and then you drink it and you get sick, why would they care? If you sue them, they're giving you your money back to you. It's your tax dollars. Oh, no, we got sued. Here's your money back.

Here's the money we took from you back. Now, if Giant Eagle gets sued, uh-oh, that's their profits. Here's the money we took from you back. Now, if Giant Eagle gets sued, uh-oh, that's their profits. That's coming out of their shareholders' pockets. So what I see is when the private sector says, get the water off the shelves, they're seeing something wrong. When the government says, everything's fine, go ahead and drink the water, they're probably lying. Who was it that did the video where they dragged- J.D. Vance.

J.D. Vance dragged a stick across the bottom of a river, and you see all the oils and chemicals come up to the surface, and these colored rainbow. Okay, that's still in the muck. What does this mean? When you talk about water, you're talking about food, too. The farmland and everything that's out all around there, but just the food, the crops that are going to grow around this place

that would go out to probably grocery stores all over the country and definitely in Ohio. What does it mean for the food supply? Fortunately, I don't think it's going to be that bad relative to what nuclear holocaust or like Chernobyl, because what I'm reading about the chemicals is that they're very short half-life, like what was the main one? Vinyl chloride has like a 2.3 day half-life. So after a week, you've got about 15,

15% of this 25% of the chemicals. No, after, after a week, you've got like 12 and a half percent of it left in the air. And then after a few more days, you've got like 6% of it left. So we've already seen 98% of the vinyl chloride disperse out of the air.

It's really, their concern is the benzenes. If there were a lot of benzenes in the, in the fires, So we've already seen 98% of the vinyl chloride disperse out of the air. It's really their concern is the benzenes. If there were a lot of benzenes in the fires, they said there were not. The official report is that it was benzene residue. I don't know if you should necessarily believe the official report, but when benzene burns, it creates dioxins, which are persistent. And those can stay in the air and in the soil for a long time, as far as I've read. Ryan Ellis super chatted saying politico's already attacking him and so politico has this semi roundabout attack on trump it says trump's visit to ohio derailment gives biden's team some breathing

room his planned appearance near the scene of this toxic derailment has democrats pointing to his past efforts to roll back train and chemical regulations and there it is the corporate press will find a way to make it a negative thing for Trump. Man, just get some people some burgers, man. I think it's more indicative of the fact that we spent a year and a half calling everything but infrastructure, infrastructure. Right?

I mean, if there was a problem with the rail yard and we're doing this giant infrastructure bill and you've got Democrats coming out and calling underwater basket weaving classes infrastructure, right? You underwater basket weaving classes infrastructure. Right. You saw a lot of that. So you had a lot of this this pork that passed the one point two trillion dollars worth of money going towards things that had nothing to do with infrastructure.

And this is what comes of that. So they're going to try to spin it back on him. But weren't we supposed to be fixing the railways? Weren't we supposed to be doing that? Do you think that if Biden or Buttigieg showed up, they'd boo him out? Yes. Like, just yell at him? At this point, I don't know.

It depends on what they show. If they showed up with huge pallets and pallets of water and food, probably not. I don't know, though. You wouldn't see Buttigieg or Biden do that. Why has Biden not gone? Is it a health risk? 72% of this district voted for Trump. Right. And I just want to point out ian's persistent with all due respect naivete in terms of who these people really are and you know often on the show you'll talk about pardoning people or

giving them the benefit of the doubt and it's like yo man when people tell you who they are believe them when joe biden sneaks off to ukraine with 500 million dollars and ignores this disaster in its entirety and then outright his he didn't even address it his people like he's not coming there buddha doesn't even show up he's telling you outright he does not care about regular working class americans but what i wonder is who who's decided i think i think of biden on a leash when i think about biden i don't think he's making the decisions about whether or not he goes to East Palestine. I feel like someone's like, no, it's too risky for your condition, Joe. You can't breathe that air and you're 84 years old.

But they're telling us that they're safe? Yeah. They're bad people. They're evil people. I'd like to know when this trip was planned. You know, was it just a last minute thing? For Trump? No, for Biden.

I bet it's in a while. But if it wasn't, that could be an indication that maybe this was an effort to get eyes away. Oh. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. Oh, I see. Yeah. I had the feeling that it had been on track for a while.

No one knew about it. But they were like, just going to do it on this day anyway. And then the East Palestine thing was inconvenient to talk about because it was in the way. But you make a good point. Maybe they were just like, we need to divert eyes to something now. We need another Chinese balloon, right? Yep.

Did he take Hunter with him? Over there to Ukraine? I don't think he did. No? It's not disappointing. The more distraction he can generate from this. Exactly. I just, $500 million, man.

That would, I mean, the people who live near this train derailment, that train company probably should compensate them for the fair market value of their properties before the damage. Absolutely. And they can keep the property. But ain't nobody buying those houses now. Right. So what do we get? Donald Trump, he shows up.

There's a lot of things. He could be playing golf right now. But this is where I think he's getting back into the lot of things he'd be playing golf right now but this is where i think he's getting back into the swing of things and uh i gotta be honest you know there's a lot of things trump do that i chuckle at roll my eyes at but when i saw this video of him coming down there i got a warm fuzzy feeling inside i'm like at least someone's doing something i don't care if trump doesn't care maybe he's just like here's a great opportunity to get attention and i'm like wow he thinks that helping the american people will make people like him.

Joe Biden just left. Even even care that much. Just like you said, even if it is just a photo op, it's he's still actually like putting food in people's bellies and giving people water. But but but but right. But what I'm saying as well is Trump, if it is a photo op, he's thinking to himself, this will make people like me. Okay, good. He wants people to like him. He has a concern about

whether or not the American people like him. Joe Biden doesn't. He's just gone. Biden doesn't seem to care about what anybody thinks as long as he's keeping his far left flank happy. And maybe he doesn't even care about that.

We're going to make fun of Joe Biden because we have this story from the New York Post. It's big news, breaking news. keeping his far left flank happy. And maybe he doesn't even care about that. We're going to make fun of Joe Biden because we have this story from the New York Post. It's big news, breaking news from 11.57 a.m. Biden stumbles up Air Force One stairs again, leaving Poland. You know, that's karma. I think Carpe Donctum made a meme where Trump throws his hat and he's Palestinian

and then it boomerangs around and hits Biden. He falls up the stairs. This is what we get, ladies and gentlemen. Your president not only abandoning the American people, visiting foreign countries and then falling up the stairs. That's your president. To be fair, that's a lot of stairs for a dude that's almost 80. Yeah, when are they going to build an escalator? An escalator?

What I want to know is where is snl on this i mean when when when gerald ford fell down the stairs uh in the 70s when he was president that's what made chevy chase famous was making fun of gerald ford when he fell down the stairs and it's like this has happened twice now and you see nothing from places like snl or or any of the comedians making fun of it it doesn't make any sense to me you can see it. You can't make fun of it. You got Babylon Bee. The Babylon Bee is tearing it up. They have one of their new articles,

Biden promises to get rid of these resort fees. Wait, I'm sorry. Biden promises to get rid of those resort fees by the time World War III starts. Have you seen him tweeting about getting rid of resort fees over the last three weeks? He's like, these $90 secret fees are ruining America. Under my watch, we'll make sure.

And it's like, are these really your priorities, dude? He's tweeted about it like three times in the last two weeks. He has mentioned a couple of things that are very silly, like very frivolous. This isn't comedy. This is true. Resort fees suck. I get it. But juxtaposed with the Ukrainian stuff in East Palestine, it's like, what is he?

The Babylon Bee wrote this headline. Biden promises to get rid of those resort fees by the time world war three starts but that's literally what he's saying it's like he so he didn't literally say i will get rid of these fees before the start of world war three but world war three is on the we're on the cusp of a major conflict he's like don't worry we're gonna get those resort fees down it's like what completely people people's whole city is blanketed in this chemical that killed their livestock of a major conflict. He's like, don't worry. We're going to get those resort fees down. It's like, what? Completely tone deaf. People's whole city is blanketed in this chemical that killed their livestock and is like floating in their water.

And then you're like, Mr. President, will you help the poor people of East Palestine? I will by cutting those resort fees. So when they're evacuating their hometown, it'll be a little cheaper out of their pocket.

Maybe they're not making fun of him following up the steps because he's old and it's like elder abuse. yeah whereas like gerald ford was still how it was for was he like in his early 60s or something no he was even i mean i think he's in his 50s or something so he was younger and he's more of just a guy falling down right which is a little bit but again it is i guess a little funny but when you do it twice man i mean when you do the same thing twice, SNL should be all over that.

And I think Tim is right. It is a cult, and it just says, we cannot make fun of the holy one. We cannot make fun of the person that's carrying our water for us. And it's really sad. It's really sad. This is what the president is tweeting about right now.

Hidden junk fees are taking money out of the pockets of average Americans. Thanks to our efforts, most of the country's largest banks are getting rid of fees for bounced checks. We're going to lower overdraft fees next. Well, that's really great. I mean, cool.

Do you have anything to add about the people whose entire city is blanketed in toxic chemicals and whose livestock are dying? I would be interested to hear what you had to say about that one. I'm curious. Oh, I'm sorry.

Before that, he says, our support for Ukraine will not waver. NATO will not be divided. We will not tire. Oh, NATO. Yeah, he's not talking about us. He's in, what is his, Bucharest? Bucharest nine leaders have provided critical security assistance he just not saying anything? Ukrainian refugees, democracies around the world. Uh-huh. Christians in Ash Wednesday. Okay. Well, that one's okay. All right.

I can respect that one. He's talking about Americans at least. Yo, it's like, to him, none of this even happened. Did he even mention it once? Maybe. He has to have mentioned it. I thought he tweeted about it once, but while he was on his way to Ukraine right wow I mean that

that that's a slap in the face you know you got a toxic chemical spill it's a problem well I'll be over in Ukraine given 500 million dollars from your from your taxes to a country you can't point a toy on a map I think it was Anna de Armas somebody there was an actor saying that the age of social

media has basically killed the movie star. It's basically, there are no more movie stars now. It's a lot, I think, a lot less about the art that you make and more about who you are as a person because it's a lot more prevalent and obvious now. And it's the same thing with the president. They don't hide behind this visage of the title. Now you get to see this guy in his daily behavior, and it's insane. look sorry man just look at this picture this is worse this is like 1970s crap this this this tweet from joe biden is worse than nothing he said after my speech today i spoke with epa michael reagan sherrod brown bill johnson shapiro dewine about our ongoing efforts in east

palestine ohio i reaffirmed my commitment to making sure they have everything they need. Let me give you the latest. And there is a picture of him sitting on the phone in, I don't know where he is, but it's just like, bro, just do nothing and say nothing because at the very least then we can try to imagine

what might you have been doing, but to be like, I got on the phone with some guys, told them, just let me know what you need. Well, then got on a plane. This is worse than a mean tweet. You know what I mean? This is,

this is a tweet of like, I'm just going to placate you. I'm going to say something. So you, so I can say I said something and that's it. You know, I'd rather have an outwardly mean tweet than just something that placates people who are really going through a hard time.

Let's be real. Biden talked to nobody. He probably did nothing. It it's a stock photo they probably took of him weeks ago they probably have a whole library of photos of him doing other things you've got remember that picture of him and it was it was supposed to be at uh camp david but then people noticed the clock was not daylight savings time and they're like wait a minute this had to have been taken before march or like before november or whatever proving that either well maybe they don't update their clocks or it was a stock photo of the president this is probably a stock photo they bring them in a room and they say we're gonna get a bunch of different photos if you're doing different things to use in different moments i bet the dude has no idea what's going on in ohio

i bet he's just like i don't know they told him to get on a plane and fly to ukraine he tweeted about it yesterday uh rail companies have spent millions of dollars to oppose common sense safety regulations and it's worked more than a train derailment more than a toxic waste bill it's years of opposition to safety measures coming home to roost doesn't mention ohio doesn't mention so that's that's the same talking point as politico just put out right i mean it's all trump's fault basically right because of of the of the regulations and that seems to obama did the same thing with bush and i'm you know no fan of bush but any it was seven years into his presidency and he was like oh well bush right something went wrong it was bush's fault and that seems to be what biden is doing anytime he can just say oh if it's wrong it's trump's fault it has nothing to do with what i've done you just go back and

look at the previous administration yeah i expect that out of an administration if they're going to actually do that in conjunction with taking action to help relieve the situation on the ground if there's going to be like i'm not a fan of government anyways but if there's going to be a government that's that's if there's going to be an epa if there's going to be uh you know a fema and stuff why aren't they helping in the places that in the u.s that need their help well and the rail system is the federal government's responsibility and when you're talking about the the chemicals and stuff this is the epa this is what they do yeah i was told oh no go ahead i was told that he's been offering biden's been offering federal help to the governors but they they haven't been

requesting it he actually says in his tweet uh as I said to your governors, they'll have every resource that they need, indicating that they're available for you governors if you need it. But what is it? Is it that the federal government gives a state some sort of FEMA relief, then the state owes the federal government something? Is it like a tit for tat? So the governor's like, I don't want to get involved with federal money. I don't want you breathing down my neck about that thing in the future as a result i mean probably to some degree but also like you know we pay taxes and that's the point of them so that federal emergency management can come and assist us when things like this happen but i would think it would happen with no you know no like what is it no expectation of something in return well i think the governor has to declare some kind of state of emergency at some point. But

other than that, if you requested the age should be offered. But I don't know, it seems all very, very strange that that the federal government didn't jump in at the beginning. It didn't highlight the issue at the beginning. I mean, it seemed like when I first tweeted about it, which was early, right? I was getting, getting you know bot replies in my in my feed saying oh you need to check your sources on what actually is happening there and this kind of false narrative of everything is fine the people of east palestine are are just making a mountain out of a molehill everything's okay and then it turns out absolutely that's not the case it took jd vance going over there to do it to show people but again we were fed a narrative or when we were fed a

narrative it turned out to be completely false i posted i retweeted the early image of like the river the ohio river and then all the potentially affected states through the water table and i just tweeted the image i said i don't know there's nothing verifying if this is real or not get water filters get air filters don't wait for official confirmation to take care of yourself and i got a twitter the next day a warning said this is unverified and someone's like ian you got a war i was like i'm fine with it i don't i know i didn't verify this is just take care of yourself but then the next day they removed the warning so like that's interesting yeah yeah it was a big thing where the new york times claimed the far-right conspiracy theorist worth saying the

water table was being threatened and i'm like the governor of ohio said that he said a chemical plume is flowing down river towards west virginia are we supposed to assume that you can drink those chemicals is that why it's safe on the new york times it's all about the power of the first impression right it's it's they put out these these narratives hoping that okay the people that read the new york times are the people that read the washington post they see that at the beginning and they never look at it again and anytime they see a story about it after that they go oh that's just crazy white right-wing conspiracy theorists and so it's the power of that first impression that they're trying to marshal there that's it's really criminal i've got the the notice back on i think the notice is on the thing i retweeted it's not on

my tweet so it says the map is a high river basin, does not accurately represent areas of potentially contaminated drinking water. Multiple agencies and locales are actively testing groundwater and river-based drinking water and have found no contamination. Have found no contamination, yet we've seen J.D. Vance's video of contamination. And a grocery store is pulling water bottles off the shelves. I wonder why. I think this notice can come down Twitter, whoever set that up. We're going to segue to a new story, a story from the New York Post. It's titled Death of Shot Clinton Aid with Epstein Ties Found Tied to Tree Ruled Suicide Despite No Gun at Scene.

And I want to say to all of you who are watching this show and our fans, I wanted to open tonight's show with this story. But the big news is obviously Trump coming down. That matters a lot more to people because it's directly impacting the lives of people who are facing this toxic spill. So I can respect that. And as much as the Clinton aide being tied by the neck to a tree and found shot to death with no gun being ruled a suicide. Well, this is not immediately going to impact your life, but it is very, very interesting. So let me just let me just stress that again. An individual who worked for the Clintons in the 90s was found tied to a tree,

shot in the chest, no gun. And they went, looks like a suicide to me. So I guess he held the gun to his chest. And when he pulled the trigger, it the blasted it off into the air where it landed on a small log in the river and then floated downstream and eventually over a waterfall where it's just gone. Maybe he might have had balloons tied to his gun. That's a good point. Yeah, that could have been it. That's a good one.

He had several hundred balloons tied to the gun because, obviously, the gun would probably weigh several pounds. Did the Warren Commission do this or something? It's like the phantom gun theory you know what i mean like if you're tied to a tree and you've got gunshots is it more than one gunshot or is it just one i think it's two well i think it just said that he was shot and he was shot in the chest right that's what it was phil i don't know so if even if you have a pistol and you're doing that kind of extension cord tying his neck to a tree with a gunshot wound to the chest that's what it says guns what i wonder what kind of gunshot right oh they could you could you imagine like if this if if this was a suicide and he strapped balloons to his gun for for

okay come on like clearly he did not do that clearly this is probably just not a suicide um maybe there's a bunch of things you can say maybe to, right? Let's play this game. How could someone, so he goes up against a tree, and he throws the extension cord around it, and then catches it on the other side, and then ties it and spins it around, so that way he's tied by the neck.

Then he takes, we don't know what kind of gun, holds it to his chest, and when he pulls the trigger, at this point, several things may have occurred. The gun recoil launched into the air, where i mentioned it lands on a log and then floats away downstream to never to be seen again or maybe a bear came and like cocaine bear saw the gun and thought to himself with this i will rule the forest picks the gun up and then walks away in reality maybe someone found the gun and was like, hey, that's worth money, and then just took it and ran. But let's just play Occam's razor.

In the absence of evidence, the simple solution tends to be the correct one. Someone shot him. That's it. And took the gun away. Right? And shot him, and then walked away with it. I can't believe that that's even a headline. I can't believe that actually's even a headline I can't believe that that actually

People are expected to believe that I mean I suppose After the Epstein stuff You know they figure just whatever I would like to hear the numbers of the people Of the number of people that commit suicide By shooting themselves in the chest You know what I'm saying because I don't think that

From what I've read about this Situation about people who do that, they want it over quickly, right? If you shoot yourself in the chest, unless you get yourself right in the heart, it's still a slow process, right? And so I think that should be a question that they ask as well.

It's like, and not to mention just the sheer mechanics, if it was a rifle that it was done with, it was slow. Well, the cops said they found 12 gauge buckshot in his car and a gun case with no gun so then like did he have a shotgun that is incredibly difficult to do if you i mean a shotgun is a long long rifle uh weapon 18 inch barrel if that's why uh sb uh sbs that's why the the the typical story is you use your foot yeah they they aim with their feet or whatever. I don't want to give away too much. Please, nobody

hurt yourself at home or anything like that. But, yeah, I'm sorry. The recoil launches it into the air where it attached to a bird. A bird catches it and flies away with it. He tied balloons to it. I mean, that's the only logical explanation that these cops are to be right.

Or how about this? This guy is involved in something and somebody killed him. I mean, for all we know, look, let's be real. For all we know, he was banging some dude's wife, right? Could be that simple. We don't need to go back 30 years

and be like he worked at the Clintons. He did. And maybe he banged some dude's wife and someone got revenge on him. Maybe it was a sheriff's wife. But the sad part about this is that this is going to put an end to the to any real questioning about this you know you may have the old people like us talking about it but as in terms of official investigation this is done because nobody else has jurisdiction anything about

the clintons is done before it gets started it's true true. What's the Epstein ties? He signed Epstein into the White House, apparently, like a dozen times, something like that. I don't think that someone who's going to commit suicide would tie their neck around a tree first. That is very weird.

Or tie balloons to the gun. I mean, unless he was just like, I hate this world, and I'm going to confuse the hell out of everybody. I looked up New York Post, Clinton AIDS suicide, and it gave me other people's names as well. Mark Rich. Vince Foster.

Mark Middleton. Mark Middleton, that's who it was, not Mark Rich. Uh-oh. Vince Foster. Yeah, I mean, twice in the back of the head or something like that. Who was the journalist who was investigating the CIA or whatever, like the crack stuff, and then he got shot twice in the head and they ruled it a suicide. You want to look that one up?

Yeah. What was that guy's name? Like, there's just so many of these stories. And then I was mentioning, I've been watching Yellowstone. And so this isn't really a spoiler because this is like first season, first episode stuff, but they kill a lot of people in that show and they just kick them off a mountain. And it's like, ain't nobody going to find these people. This gary webb is that the gary webb two gunshots to the head ruled a suicide by the sacramento county coroner's office and that's it for that

investigation okay you know what i mean that's done it could be like in south park there was that episode where the guy was trying to kill himself and then shoots himself like oh i'm so alive and then he keeps trying or whatever like okay whatever but i just i got ackham's razor this one and just be like typically when someone's shot twice in the head it's not a suicide so why would they be like nah you know suicides or whatever geez gary webb wrote what is this the dark alliance series uh examine the origins of the crack cocaine trade in los angeles and anti-communist contra rebels in Nicaragua. Yeah, you know, we don't want people finding out about that.

The drug trade fueling... Who knows what story... The CIA economy. The CIA selling crack and cocaine in the United States. Do you think what percentage of our economy you think is like drugs? Is that taking pharma? Would that take any pharma? I mean, I think big pharma

accounts for like probably 10 some ridiculous number i think the health care industry itself is 20 isn't it huge huge but that's but that's not just drugs yeah those are those are licit drugs not illicit no no it's all drugs the the 20 of the economy is medical meaning like when you go to a doctor to get your legs set you know or get you know ibuprofen for your bad headaches and all does that include mental health? Yes. Yeah, and all the prices for that are all inflated because the government being involved in stuff.

There's no market, you know, in the U.S., but... Yeah. Well... You think, like, this drug trade from Central America is like a portion of the economy that is like black budget economy we just don't know about? Of course.

So they don't want to get exposed? Of course, I think it is i mean there's there's always dark money you know and it comes from all sources but when you when you get into situations like this just like tim was saying you know it could it could not be clinton related uh it's look look this guy worked at the clinton's in 30 30 some odd years ago right they're bringing up he was a Clinton aide because of the conspiracy theory. And that's what I've said about the conspiracy theory. And the Clintons are high profile people

who've worked in multiple agencies and in government. Of course, they're going to have connections to a lot of people. Now, the question is, take someone of comparable public stature and then calculate how many deaths and suicides exist around them in their periphery and then do that several times.

Is it different? I think what happens is, yeah, the Clintons are shady people. But it's just like I've seen stories where it's like a security guard who worked for a financial firm that Clinton once used was found dead. And I'm like, OK, well, hold on there, buddy. We're getting a bit six degrees of Kevin Bacon on this one. Did they work with them or with their organizations? If there's a lot of that, that's weird. But they're just bringing up a guy who died recently and being like he worked for the clintons 30 years ago and it's like you're telling me that he still works for the clintons or something well

and this is just compounded by the whole epstein connection i mean they're still trying to claim that he you know killed himself right i mean and you know all the tapes just weren't working all the videos weren't working this should say former clinton ed minsk says tim don't working. All the videos weren't working. This should say former Clinton. Minsk says, Tim, don't forget to give the disclaimer. Talk to a doctor and find out if associating with the Clintons is right for you. I think the doctor would say no, no, no, don't do that. Didn't he die in Arkansas, too? Is that what it was? That's what I think was real.

Yeah. Paraville, Arkansas, May 2nd, 2022. Almost one year after his death, a police report obtained by the outlet revealed that the little rock businessman was discovered with a gunshot wound to the chest an extension cord tying his neck to a tree the extension cord was tied to a tree a tree limb above him so did he like throw it over and then like slip knot it pull it tight around his neck and then lean back and then shoot himself like you know could this be autoerotic asphyxiation gone wrong? I mean, it just seems so very strange.

Maybe the real story is that it was autoerotic asphyxiation, but then a loved one was like, I can't let it be known that he died this way, so they shoot him when he was already dead. That's an explanation. There was some celebrity who died from that, and they wouldn't admit it. They were like, oh, it's heroin.

Singer in excess. Was it? Was it really oh, it's heroin. Singer in excess. Was it? Was it really? I think it was the singer in excess. He was choking himself while cranking it. This is a family-friendly show. Was it Cornell? Was Cornell doing that, too?

I don't think so, no. Okay, good. Yeah, I think that was heroin. I think, Chris. Yeah, I think that was heroin, wasn't it? He died on an airplane? I heard it was a suicide. I had never heard

about cause of death though so like fentanyl overdose or something no I don't know I've also heard other stories about what that might have been

so I'm gonna not get into you know of Cornell yeah not just that but like a lot of other people too it's just you know

oh it's horrible it's getting dark here guys yeah I know it's dark and not so family do you think that having the word Clinton in the headline of this is sensationalist? Yes. Absolutely. Do you think sensationalist journalism is destroying the universe?

Yes. No. Destroying the universe? Well, I think it's destroying our political system. I think that everything is about getting clicks. And you have this giant push for, okay, how many clicks? And this is right and left. That's what gets so fresh. I live in a red state, okay. And, and politicians or just journalists will automatically put out the most sensational headline that they can. And the the

body of the story has nothing to do with what the headline has to do. And this is in red states, you know, and it gets very frustrating for people who like myself, we're just trying to find the truth about what's actually happening in your community. Because all this stuff becomes smoke and mirrors. And I think that Republicans taking kind of the woke, the woke cue from things from 9 2019 2020, when everything just got out of hand, have said, Well, we're just going to jump on the bad wagon you know conservative media sometimes does that and i think it's it's not doing us any favors it's not doing us any favors to actually find out the truth of what's going on it's kind

of like if if a weapon was given to your opponent you're the opposing army but the what the weapon does is hurt everyone a little bit right and they use it and they use it and you're like well that thing is destroying us we need it too so then you start using it everyone's getting hurt i mean it's everyone your people too right that's what it feels like and it's self-harm over time because then people stop trusting you you know and the more the politicians dig into that you get in in the local communities you know and in places like oklahoma you just lose trust for for the people that you've elected and you you know these people, right? These are your local elected officials.

But they're participating as much as anybody on the national level, sometimes more. The disassociation and not trusting and not knowing your local politicians, I think, is something that people in cities are familiar with and used to whereas people in small towns it's easier to access your your local politicians if there's only 5 000 10 000 people in your town as opposed to if you're you know in new york city or in cleveland or or whatever you know like people in we're talking about um east palestine there's only 5 000 of them they can they can access the politicians and let them know that they're upset really easily they can but it's that's a double-edged sword because sometimes you get local politicians who are friends with everybody sure and right and they will just say what

everything it kind of on the on the blanket of that trust on the foundation of that trust and oftentimes you'll see if you really investigate it that what they're saying is not necessary and i'm not talking about anybody specifically i'm'm just saying, I've seen this over and over again, where they use this hometown spirit. Okay, if you're running in this district, you got 10,000 people in your district, you know, all their names, you know, all the families, and you go out and you say, you know, well, this is what this bill does. And you actually read the bill. And it does the complete opposite. That gets weaponized, too. And so I would just encourage anybody from my experience, read your bills, your local bills, because're the ones that uh the local laws that are passed

on your behalf from your local politicians because those are the ones that directly affect you yeah make sure they're doing what it is they say they're doing i've been thinking about sensationalizing the titles of our show like this show because like what if the name of the show was just number 713 and would we get as many views? Well, then you'd be Lex Friedman. We might not. We might get more. Yeah, exactly.

Because Lex's show is off the chains popular. Rogan, he doesn't put any, he just puts the name of the person in the video and the number. Huge views. They're not news shows. Because you know the person, you trust them. And you like, it's more about the people than about what the what. Right. But you come to TimCast to find out,

because I think this show has done a great job. I started watching around 2020, and you're a left-leaning person. I was more right-leaning, right? And I appreciated the fact that I could see what you were talking about, and then I could see your mind change on different things,

that it opened up, you were opening up people's eyes while you were opening up people's eyes about things. And I think that that's the benefit of having that kind of, if you want to call it sensationalism, you know, on a show like this. It's, because you hit people from all sides here.

You know what I mean? This is a topical cultural commentary and political commentary and news commentary. Right. If we were just a show about talking to each other and having a hangout the titles would be very different so that's why lex lex lex fridman's show is literally him talking to a guy joe rogan is him talking to a person or i shouldn't say a guy but people so it's just the name of the person and that's and that's what you go for so the new show that we're doing you know

fridays culture war with tim pool youtube.com slash timcast, is probably just going to be titled Culture War number one, Oli London, Culture War number two, guest, guest, guest to come. Because those are just conversations and hangouts. I guess, do you stress about being too sensationalist when you make internet video titles? A little bit.

We've talked about it before. I mean, I've got my limit. Clearly, the most successful channels on YouTube have no qualms whatsoever about saying the craziest garbled nonsense. You know, one thing Mr. Beast does really well is his titles will be outlandishly awesome, but then in the first 10 seconds, he'll back up the title.

He'll let you know, you are about to see what the title says. It's this, get ready. So you know, like your expectations are met right away. Apparently, that's a huge part of. As with many things, there are people who naturally are sensational and they have no idea what they're doing and why it works, but they get a lot of traffic. Then there are people who consciously try to figure out how to create better titles and headlines to attract more people. And they get called scummy for being manipulative. It's like, well,

should we just leave it to those who are accidentally manipulating people or should people make headlines that are attractive? I have a limit, you know, clearly, but there are,

strangely, we've had instances where it's like the news story is, you know, Donald Trump delivers Big Macs. Like, I'll make the title just that

and someone will be like, clickbait. And I'll be like, clickbait. That's literally what he did. That's what click literally what he did refers to omitting information from a title in order to get people to click it so that they can figure out what's going on rage bait is a reference to intentionally over hyping something to shock people make them angry so they click it and then and then watch and then of course you know clickbait could also refer to if Donald, you know, Joe Biden's trips going up the stairs, titling the video, Joe Biden has horrific fall, nearly dies. And then it's a video of him stumbling and going like that's most of the Internet, though.

Let's jump to this story. Here's one. This headline is not sensationalized from the post-millennial Arizona rancher charged with murder of Mexican man was, quote, hunting migrants with AK-47 prosecutors. Prosecutors alleged that Kelly hunted the group of men with his gun and made numerous alterations to his story when later spoke to law enforcement. So you may have heard this story. This guy, George Allen Kelly, 73, is being charged with murder because a guy who was on his property was shot. They say he did it. It was an illegal immigrant with numerous felony crossings, I guess. And the issue now apparently is they're saying he hunted these migrants down to kill them.

Yeah. What I find strange is that Arizona, I'm pretty sure, is a defensive property state, meaning you can kill someone to defend your property like if someone is about to cross onto your property my understanding is that you have a right to use a lethal force if they don't stop so what's strange about this case is that here's a guy who's on his own property clearly someone's breaking the law they end up shot and dead but this guy gets arrested i'm wondering how does that make sense well he was trespassing, right? I mean, that's... In the country and the land, right?

Well, and that's why... You know, Vivek Ramaswamy just announced for president, and he talks about the difference between immigration and illegal immigration, or people coming across the border illegally. And I think that's the crux of the matter here, is this guy, he's crossed the border illegally, and then he's crossed into somebody's property illegally, right? And this

guy's defending his property, he has a right to do that, as opposed to somebody who goes through INS and goes through the process to get the green card and does all of that. And I think that underscores what we were just talking about, about the need to be precise in our language, right? And that's why i kind of like vivek and him coming out and uh running for president now you know but it is to be precise in our language and and understand what is happening here is why you uh see so much confusion about situations like this you know and then the media just seems to play into that this guy says that uh he just fired warning shots and there's no evidence that

his bullets hit the guy, which to me sounds like he might be telling a lie that maybe he did go out there to shoot the trespassers. But now he's afraid that if he says it out loud, he'll go to jail for sure. So he changed his story. But when you change your story, then you look like a liar. That's kind of what I'm looking at the path of this situation at the moment i think the biden administration and democrats want more illegal immigration for a variety of reasons one so they can increase the population in their states they're bringing these people in putting them on planes and flying them to swing states and blue states and they also want the short-term economic demand bringing in a whole bunch of people and putting them cities will create temporary short-term demand followed by stagnation and economic crisis. But that short-term gain looks good

for them on paper. They can use it to get reelected. The long-term gain is bringing in a bunch of people who will increase the census numbers, giving them more electoral college votes and congressional seats. So when a guy who lives there says, hey, get off my property, they're coming right for me, they go, this guy needs to be made, we need to make an example of him so that people don't screw with our agenda you take a look was it for mccallan texas is that where it's at where under the bridge they have all the they had all those people the biden administration clearly is happy with what's going on people talk about the southern border and biden letting us down or failing or whatever and it's like no he's doing exactly what

he intended to do the whole time this is 100 100% by design. This is the intent of the Democrats. They have had full authority to do something for two years. They have done nothing. They did nothing during the Obama administration. This has been the Democrats' plan for the better part of the past 20 years to have cheap labor be imported into the country that that's it's it's completely clear i can't take anyone that argues against that seriously it's been going on for 250 years dude the southern states imported cheap labor through the african slave trade and wanted to use those numbers to pad their stats

oh yeah they did no no okay brother all right it's different stuff they had your your your it is they wanted to use those numbers to inflate their their stats you can say truthfully that bringing slaves in was quote unquote cheap labor but migrants coming here is not the same as slavery migrants are coming here of their own volition like they're walking like they want to do it like there weren't a lot of people that were in africa that were like you know i'm going to go to america and be a slave it wasn't they weren't running out and jumping on the slave show it's definitely worse as soon as biden got elected or it looked like he was going to be elected and become president you had a mass migration from central

america all the way up through because they knew that they were going to be allowed to come through and before that you had remained in mexico they had shirts that said please let us in biden or whatever right that one yeah no they asked for it and you know kamala harris comes out and says well don't come right and of course they're gonna listen they they can even hear what she's saying right i mean they they're not sitting there you know on their phones going oh well kamala said not to go let's go back you know i mean harris helped make one of the best memes of that year yeah look at these the reason i brought up these the reason i brought up the african slave trade is because the numbers padding that they're doing with the census. I erroneously said that they said all black people were worth three-fifths of a person in the eyes of God two nights ago.

That's not what it was about. It was about the North trying to say, look, we're not going to let you pad your stats for the states with your slaves. We'll say they're worth three-fifths of a person each legally. It was an effort to weaken slavery. The North said they're not voting people because they're slaves the south south said yes they are and then they agreed on three-fifths right they were property the south wanted to call them property whatever but now we've got people that are padding stats one for one they're not legal citizens so what do we need another three-fifths clause do we need to say no how about

no don't break the law right how about just enforce the existing laws that right there that's it sanctuary states because existing law is the the federal government has whether or not you agree with like open borders or not currently the federal government is the organization charged with protecting the borders and enforcing border law and they are completely and totally neglecting to do that well and i think you're seeing good signs come out of places like texas where you have governor abbott you know saying if you're not going to do it we're going to do it you know and we're going to send the national guard or send you know the texas marshals down there to help enforce. But when you don't have

a barrier, right? I mean, when you don't have something to keep them out in places that, because you can't put eyes on every inch of the border all the time. It's impossible. So the federal government is leaving this to the states, knowing that they probably can't handle it economically. And it absolutely is a plan and it's been working for a long long time sanctuary states basically means they're not part of the union when california says we will not abide by union law it's like well then why are we why are you in any way tied to this union if you're not agreeing interposition let me just play devil's advocate what about the marijuana laws because like you have what 40 states now that have said that marijuana is legal, but the federal government says it's not.

Agreed. You know, I mean, it's interesting. The federal government's got deep problems. Yeah, yeah, I agree. That's the idea of interposition where a state's supposed to step in and say, we supersede your federal law, which is technically the way the country works. So in that instance, California can say, yeah, even if you're acting xenophobic, we're going to let whoever we want in. Then Texas should have the right to deport. And the problem is what we're hearing from border states is that they have no authority in deporting people.

Texas is deporting to New York. Yeah. All that's doing is putting illegal immigrants in deeper into the country and embedding them here. Yeah. They're helping Joe Biden and Democrats and convincing their voters they're helping their voters. So you get all these Republicans going like, yeah, it's so funny they're doing this. Meanwhile, Biden's like, this is awesome. This is fantastic for us.

We're going to inflate our numbers in these jurisdictions. And New York is going to get more congressional votes. It's going to get more electoral college votes. Thank you, Texas. Thank you, Florida. I do think that there is a little bit of risk in classifying all people that are migrants as automatically a Democrat voter, especially considering the push with LGBT issues, gender ideology. That's not going to fly with the Catholics coming up from South America. No. fly with the Catholics coming up from South America. And also, there's also a lot of people from a lot of

different parts of the world now are coming through the U.S. border. I've heard people from, heard about people from Syria and from Turkey already getting there because of the earthquake. So it's, as long as that border is open,

there's going to be people from all over the world going to, you know, coming to South America and then making the trek up through Mexico. The remain in Mexico policy or remain in whatever the safest country that you can get to, that's the correct policy. If you want to apply for asylum, that's it. That's the one to do. I think that we should have a much easier system for getting people to immigrate to the U.S. Generally, I like the idea of open borders. I do think there probably has to be some kind of immigration control. But overall, I think free people should be able to move wherever they want. But the system that we have now is not working at all when i'm thinking about

the census i think when you fill out the census you don't have to put if you're a citizen is that right is that the way they changed it now there's no like is there a census or is there a citizen block and you can either say yes i remember there being a fight over that in some places well if you don't put that you're a citizen then your your census count should be worth three-fifths of a person or nothing and donald trump tried getting that on the census and they sued and the supreme Well, if you don't put that you're a citizen, then your census count should be worth three-fifths of a person. Or nothing. And Donald Trump tried getting that on the census, and they sued, and the Supreme Court said you can't do that. They wanted to prevent him from forcing people to acknowledge that they weren't citizens. I'm just saying you don't have to acknowledge if you are or you're not.

But if you don't acknowledge that you are, then your census should count for less. He wanted to put the question on the census, and they blocked him saying you can't. Right, that's what it was. I understand that, because if people had to say no, then they'd just be a target for ice well they wouldn't have filled it out so you're saying people who are here illegally breaking our laws should just be allowed to keep breaking our laws i don't personally feel like that but that's i think the it's a ridiculous argument that it's like well if someone is committing serious felonies we shouldn't force them to tell us yes you should the cops should find them and arrest

them and that's it well and if you aren't a citizen of the united states you aren't necessarily protected by the constitution you are you you absolutely are protected by the constitution if you're not a citizen constitution applies to anybody in this country doesn't matter if you're a citizen or not and i'm fine with that the issue however is if you are not a citizen of this country and you are here illegally or your visa well but then you have a right to sell not self-incriminate you could plead the fifth so to speak by yeah right because right so you get the census with the question on it and you don't fill it out no but the idea that you can't put the question on the census is insane and the argument for the left

was well then people who are not citizens won't fill it out and we'll get inaccurate readings and it's like so the people who are here illegally, we won't give federal funding to the people who aren't here legally. I'm fine with that. If you're not here legally, you should not be receiving benefits in any way. California should not get a congressional seat because of illegal immigrants they let in and don't enforce the laws against. If the federal government, so this is the big problem. This is why I feel like the country is on the verge

of blowing up, collapsing, whatever you want to call it. Texas has to abide by the votes of California when it comes to the federal government. But California is breaking

the federal rules to strengthen itself. So imagine, you got a roommate and your roommate is taking your stuff and selling it and then using that money

to pay your rent or whatever and you're like, you can't do this you're stealing my stuff basically well you know i pay more rent than you so i get more say california is breaking the rules bringing people in then arguing they should get more say than everybody else why would texas or florida want to be a part of a union that allows that? I know that the national divorce question is huge right now. The thing that gives me pause about this, and I understand your question, because it seems like it makes it impossible to work with each other,

but I just want to remind everybody of what the woke mantra was in 2020, right? It's disrupt and dismantle, right? That was the whole thing. And it seems to me that the left has done a lot of disrupting, and they're leaving it to the right to dismantle a little bit where it's like, okay, we've disrupted all this stuff. Aren't you super mad at California? Well, then we need a national divorce. Because what I keep reminding people of is that, you know, first of all, the more you talk about divorce, the more likely it is to happen.

That's if you've ever been in marriage counseling or anything like that. But the other part of it is that the only thing that's keeping the global oligarchy from, from taking over completely, I believe is the Constitution of the United States. And if you have a disillusion, if you have a divorce, the Constitution is gone. I mean, it is in effect gone. And so then we have a serious problem, because then we've actually brought, we brought to the left what the left wanted in the first place because they disrupted and we dismantled so i would just i would i understand the sentiment and i know it's difficult but we've been through worse times right but the constitution is basically gone as it is because red states don't do anything republicans don't

do anything there has been a growing contingent of people, say the MAGA movement or whatever, who have been resisting. The establishment is freaking out, and they've been freaking out. But you take a look at Mitch McConnell, who, I love this, he was asked about Nord Stream. Who could have done it? And he goes, well, it certainly wasn't us or something like that. It's like, oh yeah, okay, Russia blipped their own pipeline. No sane, rational person who pays attention to politics thinks that. But this is what they do. This is what they think of you and how they present quote unquote facts. So what is what does this mean for us if we have if we if we have a constitution or otherwise? Are they infringing on our rights to free speech? Yes, every single day. Are they infringing on our right to keep and bear arms? Yes, incessantly. They even infringed on the Third Amendment with the COVID

lockdowns by mandating that people who are in the U.S. armed forces could not be evicted. That violates the Third. Don't even get me started on the Fourth Amendment. Come on. Unwarranted search and seizure, the mass spying programs, Fifth Amendment. Dude, there are people who are locked up all the time. January 6th is a great example. The list goes on and on and on.

But do you think that the left is the only ones doing that? I mean, that's why I'm saying it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter it doesn't matter so the idea now is sit back and let california cheat and break the law and abuse people and and let democrats do it nationwide and riot and burn down buildings or say no and get a national divorce i think that we have there's i think that a national divorce is a little too extreme. And I think that I've, I made an argument on Twitter that at this point, I think a convention of States is the, is the only legal means to get,

to have, to have a divorce. It says to actually dissolve with that. Cause the thing you were talking last night about the civil war, the thing about the civil war is they didn't have the states to call a convention. So it was technically illegal for the states to secede because they couldn't actually make the amendment. If you call an Article 5 convention, you can actually amend the Constitution. It's not going to be easy, but it's a whole lot easier than living without electricity because we had a civil war and the infrastructure is destroyed.

Calling a convention does not get you the requisite votes for changing the Constitution. It simply brings people to a room who then argue again. You can make amendments to the Constitution. Which then have to be voted on and ratified. By the states, but independent of dc yes and then we don't have enough states to even call a convention and if we did i would say half of the red states are going to go slow down there democrats and then do nothing you're not wrong but the but so what we have right now is we are in a in an abusive relationship where we're being

pummeled and beaten in the face and people are going but if but if you leave him you'll be homeless and i'm like i'd rather sleep under a bridge the point the point is you have to exhaust the legal means that that are afforded to the population for for any for any anything to be legitimate you have to go through all legal means first national divorce is the statement asking for a legal it is but again you are you are enabling what i believe is behind the disillusion of america or the disillusion of us as a people you're giving them exactly what they want because i don't care what they want. That's not an argument. I think it is an argument because if you're playing into what the plan is,

because it'll be worse after you don't have the protection of the Constitution, albeit it may be weakened at this point. I disagree. States have their own constitutions. It's like saying,

my significant other is mercilessly beating me, demanding I leave the house, but if I do leave, I'll be giving them exactly what they want. It's like, or you leave and then you stop getting beaten

and then you be responsible for yourself. So I'm not saying a national divorce is the guaranteed absolute way to solve these problems. I'm just saying

the argument that we should sit here, take the abuse and then cross our fingers is also not an answer. Well, but you also have, you can fight back through the legal means

to stop these things and you have more, you have more tools to be able to do that within the system that we have, within the constitutional system that we have. Lawsuits have just barely begun. Right, exactly. Lawsuits have just barely begun.

This is the naivety. Okay, California will not stop. These cult members are hell-bent on imposing everything about their psychosis on the rest of the country. And the other side, which is independent, conservative, post-liberal, or whatever, are saying, please leave me alone. But please leave me alone doesn't stop abusers from trying to destroy you and harm your children. And so we're at a point now where we've got Marjorie Taylor Greene and other people like Michael Malice and Luke Rutkowski, among many others, saying maybe a peaceful divorce, a national divorce. And now you have many conservatives coming out saying, no, that's a bad idea because then we lose this, we lose that, we lose this. And I'm like, actually, I think the cities will collapse in two seconds without the

rural areas that prop them up. These people seem to think that national divorce means state borders. No, no, no, no. That's not what it means at all. It likely would mean if you look at the secession movement in Oregon, in Eastern Oregon, it would strip the rural farmland from the cities that are oppressing them. And the people in Eastern Oregon are trying to secede first and foremost just from Portland, basically, so that they can join Idaho and be working with a community that more agrees with them. That's step one. That's not even national divorce. And Portland says, F you know, because the people who live in eastern Portland are poorer,

but produce the food and the resources the city needs to survive. You cut that off, the city ceased to exist in two seconds. So if there was a national divorce, I'd imagine Los Angeles, New York, Portland, Chicago, et cetera, would crumble and people would panic and it would be sheer chaos as they went to farms and desperately begged you for food. Now, California as a state produces a ton of food, but the parts that produce the food are all conservative. So what would happen if there was a national divorce? Would the people in California be like, guess we're stuck with California?

Or would they be like, the borders are dissolving, we're with them? But you also have to remember that the people producing the food make their money and their living by selling the food to the cities so if they're not selling the food to the cities to the people who eat it then they're not making money either so it's within their it's it's in their best interest to keep that you know leverage lane open i know i don't know what's leverage i get it but it but it's also it's it's leverage on why why do they know why and demand the only why is it that the cities have leverage over the people, the workers? Why is it that the guy who works at BuzzFeed and writes articles about Brad Pitt's junk is getting four times the income of a dude who works the field picking crops?

How does that make sense? We as a society value a dude who goes on the Internet and says Donald Trump is Hitler more than a guy who grows the food we need to eat. That makes no sense. And if there was some kind of kind of we don't got to call it a national divorce some kind of restructuring and an assertion of the leverage and the and the authority of those who actually make this country work then you would see cities collapse overnight or desperately and that's that's where language is really important here because i think that you can do that within the system that we have yeah is that if that red states and their governors and and their legislatures were to actually put their foot down. Right.

And trust me, I live in the reddest state in America. And I get very frustrated with exactly what it is that you're describing here, which is like, oh, you know, oh, well, let's do the 2030 plan and, you know, make a bunch of money off of whatever. When they when they should be standing up to these other states and you know filing a lawsuit like texas did against pennsylvania when with the mail-in voting and hopefully we could have a supreme court that would actually take up a case like that because it was really important you're playing game of monopoly with people who are cheating and and they keep going well i'll just keep trying and eventually i'll win and the people who are cheating death they definitively believe they are justified in doing what they do because they're morally right.

So what we need is, okay, before national divorce, we need a real, a realignment of the leverage. The one simple thing is that the producers in this country, of which they're growing increasingly less, to just outright say no to those cities. Sorry, we no longer drive our trucks and deliver to you because you're destroying this country. See, the problem is most people, and the reason we're in this mess is because most people will tell you, I agree with you, but I will do nothing

to bring risk to myself. Matt Strickland comes on this show and talks about how his restaurant was being targeted by ABC, by the government. They seized all his booze, they shut him down, and he refused to back down, and he won. Then he gets phone calls from people saying, what you did was amazing. We support you.

What can we do to help? And he said, do the same thing, brother. And they go, oh, no, I would never do that. I will only stand back and hide in the shadows as you assume all the risks for yourself, tell you to keep doing it while I watch you get steamrolled by the government, and then do nothing to support you because, well, you know, life's not that bad. Right.

Well, and we see that kind of thing on the internet all the time. I mean, just in- I've lived that. Right. Yeah, exactly. I have too, where it's- My Twitter account, people were terrified to touch me because of my Twitter. They still are terrified to touch me because of my Twitter account.

No, I think I've experienced that and we probably all have at a certain point where it's nobody will come to your aid even if they know you're right because they just don't want to be you know mixed up in the drama right yes they're cowards and that that's really disappointing i had some we we did this skating event in dc and i was warned by some industry guys they were like hey man like you shouldn't go to dc and do this thing people are really mad it's going to be it's going to be a lot of heat and it's you know we're worried and then i'm like like, dude, I live here. I live in the D.C. area. I go skate where I feel like skating.

And you know what happened? Nothing. The locals skated, got a few fist bumps, gave out a bunch of skateboards. A crowd was there. We cheered. We all skated. We filmed. Nobody said anything negative.

These people live in the state of fear over a boogeyman that doesn't exist. And they're scared to speak up because, you know what? Maybe the reason YouTube allows a show like this is that us talking about wokeness and the cult puts it in the minds of people to be afraid. Right. That when we say people are afraid because these things happen, that reinforces it. I don't know, man. It's frustrating that we get to the point where Marjorie Taylor Greene says national divorce. And there are people who are still just like, no, no, no, slow down there, Democrats. And I'm like, dude, if we were at the point where we know for a fact that California is bringing in non-citizens to fluff their numbers and give

themselves more federal power, that is a very serious act of corruption that is destroying the union. And Texas knows it, and Oklahoma knows it. And Nebraska knows it. All of these red states know it and they do nothing. They let California cheat and then just do nothing. What are they supposed to do? Well, I think the federal government, well, I'll put it this way. At this point, it seems like the federal government is unwilling to enforce these rules. The Texas v. Pennsylvania lawsuit was a good start, but they need to start cutting off trade and it should be like sanctions. The idea that Texas allowed a man's child to be taken to California for sex change surgery or medication is insane. Why would Texas allow that to happen? Imagine if you lived in a state

and a parent said that they were going to bring a child across state lines to kill them for medical assistance in death. And the state went, that's fine. It's like, so there's no law protecting life. Okay. We got a problem there, Texas or any other state that allows a person to cross it, cross its borders to commit crimes elsewhere. Then we have no rule of law. I mean, imagine if you took a kid across state lines, the federal government agrees with what this woman is doing to this kid, and they won't do anything about it. And no one else will. Okay, you could say that we can't have a national divorce. But as far as I'm concerned, when you're at the point where Colorado says no limit abortions, and Oklahoma says no abortions at all, and California says sex change for kids, and Texas says no,

but the federal government is siding with one side that's breaking the law, there is no government. There is no United States. There is no Constitution. It is simply people holding on to an image or a memory they once had, wishing that it was still true, but it's not. But then the option is just force. Right.

The option is loss of confidence. The option is, as a business, don't trade with California. Look at what the liberal states do. They bar their employees and the government from going to Atlanta or otherwise. They put restrictions on companies doing business with other countries. I'm sorry, other states, other counties. We'll recover it that way. But Republicans don't do the same mitch mcconnell

sits down and goes well slow down there democrats and people keep voting for him they keep voting for mccarthy and we get the same thing over and over there's an economic reason for that because you have like states like oklahoma on the whole do not have the money and the income that california does right i mean they don't have the business they don't have google i mean they're starting to get it now google's starting to inject itself into red states, which I'm just like, guys, hey, don't, don't be careful what you wish for here, you know. But they don't have the large businesses, you know, in Montana that they do in, in California. And so they're, in many ways, dependent upon that, that 21st century income that they see the world going towards and so it they

feel like it's a little bit they've got them over the barrel california it's the fifth if it was a country it would be the fifth largest economy in the world right alone just the state it apparently pulled in 3.63 trillion dollars in 2022 gross gross state product uh the largest in the united states the largest economy of any state in the united states so it's kind of like asking a kid to stop eating the breast milk of its mother like no it's like california is our western economy like it is the the mouth of our entire port system essentially well so so start with this charge california 3x taxes for sending for for their goods going into your state say okay california if you want to sell your products in our state then you got to pay a tariff you got to you got to pay a state you know import fee yeah and so then they just

go well yeah we'll just do more business with china you know what i mean like you know this idea that the right is unwilling to boycott or unwilling to say no, they're unwilling to forego their luxuries, then lose, by all means, then lose. If you would prefer to have peaceful slavery, by all means, don't let me stand in your way. However, if you would like to assess the situation

and realize that with freedom comes risk and responsibility, well, then the choice is yours. If you want to go out and so for us, for instance, we decided we want to get away from the cities and we come to West Virginia. And there are risks that come with leaving a city. We can't get internet to the new place where we're at. These are challenges. It's ridiculously expensive. Internet costs several thousand dollars per month out here.

Costs 90 bucks in the city. But I would rather spend that money than live in these areas supporting what they're doing. So for a lot of people, they choose peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom. And you know what? That's part of freedom too. By all means, be that, live that life. That's not for me. You know, I'd rather give the middle finger and say,

I'm not going to support your machine. Now, don't get me wrong. There are varying degrees to which we have to coexist and be strategic. I'm not saying it is simply put that we all just stop watching Disney. My position on this has always been, I don't expect the average person to just boycott Disney outright and not watch anything from Disney ever again because that's unreasonable expect the average person to just boycott Disney outright and not watch anything from Disney ever again. Because that's unreasonable to the average person. But

we have to build the cultural infrastructure to shift them away from it and make things that make them say, I'd rather watch this instead. Yellowstone is a great show. Some people have called it woke, which makes no sense to me. The show is very anti-woke. Support shows like this, which has a bit of nuance in it, and is, in my

opinion, relatively anti-woke it's got some good woke moments that i think are fine but it's mostly like there's a scene where the one there's an environmentalist and she's insulting the family and a character says i don't know a lot about about this environmental stuff but i'll tell you this you don't change anyone's mind by insulting them and their family in their own home and i'm like here here i like that stuff but that's that's a kind of like what i was saying earlier is that we are now just labeling people so much if there's a woke moment in a show the show is woke right if there's an unwoke moment in a show the show is unwoke right and then that just bifurcates us into this point where it's like okay everybody says that we

want to you know have a parallel economy i get that i think that makes sense where you have places to go and that's that's the free market right but when we start pejorativizing or demonizing these shows, like, like, because I love, I love that show, right? I hate the woke parts of it. And I just point that out to people. I use that to say, look, Hey, this is what's actually, I believe is wrong about this. And I use that as a teaching moment and then enjoy the rest of the show. Right.

And it seems that we're unwilling to do that because there is market influence that says, well, I'm going to create the unwoke version of the show. And then you see that in the clicks and the influencer says, go watch this one when we could all gather around the same show and enjoy it. We are seeing some positive moves. West Virginia, for instance, Florida, getting rid of ESG. The state saying outright, we don't do business this way. We need more of this. We need more red states to outright

ban companies that break the law. ESG is illegal. Simply put. You're looking for state legislatures and state governors to step up and say, okay, we're going to... That's one element. That's Vivek Ravaswamy's platform. Yes, that is.

It is Vivek's platform. The other element is that we as individuals have to be conscious about the products we buy. How about this? Here's a start. When you go to the grocery store, if you see something, take a look at where it's packaged and produced. If it says California, put it back. Don't touch it. Don't buy it ever again.

If you see something that's coming from a red state, there you go. There's the product you buy. Better yet, Google search the company. Are they doing ESG? Don't buy their garbage. Because I don't expect you to stop going to a grocery store. I don't expect you to stop buying whipped cream and ho-hos and ding-dongs. Just buy the cupcakes that are coming from people who agree with you.

So download Public Square, the app that shows you businesses that agree with American values. That's phase one. Creating a parallel economy can prevent the need for some kind of national divorce if, as a culture, we shift back into the things we value. But having a parallel economy, if you don't have a unifying spirit or a unifying message that connects you as a country, will actually, I think, spur a national divorce. It may lead to that. I'm not saying that we shouldn't do it. I think you spend your money where you want to spend your money, right? And people creating options of that within the market absolutely do that.

Let's make a movie and music studio in West Virginia, and we'll start producing film. I mean, look, the Daily Wire started making movies, and they need to invest as much as they can in that space. It's very very very hard it is very hard because partly because of the esg of it all because you can't get you can't get good loan rates if you don't have a good esg score but you know just do that's currently that's currently in in like that's at the active situation now it is yeah it is it is. Because if you don't agree with these, they give you loan rates based upon your ESG score. This is what Ramaswamy is talking about a lot. And where he was the first one to come out, I'm really glad that he's in the race. We talked about Trump. And I read Vivek's

book, Woke Inc. Go out and read that book because it really pieces it all together but he he pieces all of this uh together and shows you exactly how these companies have injected themselves into government right and and this whole mechanism is using to break down the american spirit yeah it's to to stop us from seeing what we do have in common by constantly throwing in front of our face the politics of division you know and so i'm glad he's running i i think trump did a great thing here but i know we're kind of off that top i think the left and when people say left right red blue that that is the division that is the path to destruction like that's uh mao se tong he was like let's talk about the rightists he created

a group of of society that was on the right and that was the best way to divide people so i i don't like thinking of terms of like you've got to be in a camp because as soon as you think that way you're building a reality that way but everything in our market forces right now is pushing us towards that direction that's what i noticed people are choosing i don't think it's a direction though that's the thing it's like an it's like a system that's calculating and wants a certain output i want to i want to throw an idea out do you guys really think that it is left versus right or do you feel like the left is really consolidated and it's the left versus everyone that doesn't line up with the left it's like a technocratic versus everyone it's a uniparty situation because

you have a lot of republicans out there that pretend to be Republicans when it's convenient for them. And everything they're doing under the radar is right aligned with what the left wants. Whether you're talking about the 2030 environmental plan that Biden has and the Democrats have had for a long time. You see red state Republicans buying into this on a regular basis while they go out and say, well, you know, I, we banned abortion. So, you know, that's good. But we're, we're leading the state down the same thing, the same situation that made California, California today, you know, and that's really frustrating in a red state. So I don't think of them as like red. I mean, I, I understand the idea of being able to talk about things in binary, like you're there, I'm here okay fine but we are one in the eyes of god all right uh all right so i but i i think that sometimes i wonder if if my own peer group

has been brainwashed in the last seven years to think in terms of division and that just acknowledging the division is the division i i disagree i don't care what you call it call it the cult call it the left call it the woke, call it the left, call it the woke, call it whatever. There's a group of people that are a cult and that's all that matters. I see the World Economic Forum

being involved in it trying to manipulate it as a technocratic cultist. I see that cult for sure. It's one of many cults. It's Greta Thunberg attacking the United States but ignoring China and India.

Ignoring East Palestine? Not a single one of these activists showing up to Ohio and saying, this is what we're talking about. No, they don't care at all. It's people like AOC making up fake problems and lying about what happened in the Capitol. It's that video of the dude with the earpiece pulling people into the Capitol.

You see this video? I've heard about it. There's a video of a man with an earpiece, and he's grabbing people and throwing them into the building. And a woman's yelling at him saying, why are you pulling us in here? You're forcing us in here. And he's got an earpiece in. Did you see the video today that came out with the police officer saying he was screaming,

they set us up. I mean, standing right outside the Capitol, they set us up here. That's why they didn't want to release it. Exactly. I mean, and the fact that that hasn't made national news is an outrage, right? I imagine Tucker Carlson will be handling that fairly shortly.

He should. Somebody should. Is that available to watch right now? It's on Twitter. The issue is you have a cult. The cult doesn't care. The country is split between the cult and everybody else. And everybody else includes traditional liberals who consider themselves disaffected, libertarians,

conservatives, and even anti-war leftists who are economically left but don't adhere to the establishment. So how do we unify that group of people to avoid the need for a national divorce? Because if you want to call it the silent majority or just people that don't think they have anything in common. The silent majority are the Biden voters. Trump supporters think they're the silent majority, but they're not. They're the active, paying attention people. Most people are not paying attention. They're silent because they don't care.

They don't want to be involved. See, I feel like that Bill Maher video that he put out recently where he likened the woke to Maoists and the Cultural Revolution in China and acknowledge that there is a Cultural Revolution going on here. I think that that is the kind of impactful video from the kind of person that can actually make the

average normie realize what's going on. Because your average person, I think your average person still thinks that communism is bad generally they don't i don't i think that but they don't know what communism is when they hear socialism they think medicare for all when they hear communism they think you know mao zedong and stalin i think that's generally the way that people react. And I think that if people can, if you can

get people to make the connection between woke kids at colleges screaming in their professors' faces with the Red Guard screaming in the faces of the Chinese professors, if you can make that connection, that

will do significant damage to the, uh, to the, to the, to the woke agenda or whatever you want to call it. If you've not listened to James Lindsay on this subject, you need to go do it. I am screaming about James. Yeah, me too, brother. And then it's, he has been talking about now in the cultural revolution for three or four years, him and Michael, uh, O'Fallon over at sovereign nations have been talking about this, uh this for a long

time. And I'm glad that Bill Maher finally picked it up. But it's going to take more people like that to highlight the exact same process that happened in China in the 60s and the 70s is happening now. And if we can show them the evergreen, like with Brett Weinstein, the evergreen video, that opened up my eyes. I'm like, holy crap. So we need more Bill Mars who actually have some of the ears and the eyes of the left to bring on James Lindsay, to bring on these people

that really know this subject and can show it to us. This is why I have been harping on building culture more than anything else. And it's very, very difficult, but that's the path forward. When I had these industry guys in skateboarding tell me oh you better watch out if you do skateboarding bad

things are going to happen nothing bad happened they need to maintain the fear that if we enter cultural spaces we will be physically harmed so that we don't because when we do uh-oh all of a sudden young people are looking up to us and they're like hey that's really cool i want to do that too so the biggest threat to the woke machine is all of all of us and everyone listening making culture performing shows go to a venue write a song called fjb and then sing the song on stage at a venue and just be bold with it and be like that's how i think it is what it is and write a whole record called victim of the new disease about communism can i can i just say something about this because i i'm i've been involved in the arts my whole life music teacher all of that the the organized music education in this country has been completely taken over and what people don't understand is that music is the

most effective form of propaganda that you can have it And I use this loosely, but you have people that sing in church together for a reason, because when you're all singing for the same message, they've actually done, they've attested this, your heartbeat starts to beat at the same time, literally, because you're singing in the same rhythm with the same sounds with the same people. I think it's one of the main reasons they wanted to shut down churches during COVID, because, you know, where two or three are gathered in my name, there I am also was it's from the Bible, but the arts in this society have been completely taken over.

And when you're talking about the American choral directors association or the American band directors association, that their whole job is to knit together teachers from across the country and public and private schools alike. And now they're unifying behind this woke message, behind this Maoist version of the way that they want society to be. And it's very scary. So I would encourage Republicans, if you're listening at all, or conservatives, libertarians,

classical liberals, let's get involved in organized arts in the school level. I think it could be very effective in helping us turn back the woke monster that we're seeing prevailing over our country. I also want to acknowledge the danger of cults in general, like within my own ranks, within the people. Like right now, I identify with a lot of people that consider themselves Christians. They go to Christian church in some way.

And I'm looking at Joel Osteen. Osteen, is that how you pronounce his name? You know, this guy's a mega church pastor some way. And I'm looking at Joel Osteen, Osteen, is that how you pronounce his name? You know, this guy's a mega church pastor or preacher. He made like $54 million last year. Don't get me started on that. My father, my parents came out of that situation where it was the name it, claim it, you know, word of faith movement. And they are crooks. I mean, they're crooks because my father had nothing. My mother had nothing. And they would give over their last, not to their local church that could help them, but they would hand it over to Kenneth Copeland or Joel Osteen or whomever and say, well, I've done my part and the Lord's

going to give me a new car. And they died with nothing. They died with absolutely nothing at a young age because they were putting their faith into something that was just, you know, a mile wide and an inch deep. And so I, they're crooks. I, I, I'm a Christian, but I have something very visceral against people like that,

that, that take advantage of poor people through their faith. I think it's, it's what led us into the woke movement as we know it today is that kind of belief. Part of what erupt made Jesus. I rate as well from the stories is the people trying to profit off of absolutely the message i think that and it's taxed at free it's tax-free because it's a religion joel can take their money and he doesn't have to pay taxes

on it it's complete i mean that is what an abuse of and they walk into his church expecting to get something of depth and what they get is a nice you know know, frou-frou, oh, I feel good as I leave kind of television church show, and they get nothing of depth from the Christian faith in that. And it has done, I think it's done as much as anything the left has done to put people down the disaffected road with Christian values, with some of the values that our country was founded on that actually helped keep us strong. So I'm right with you on that. I have nothing good to say about the Osteens. Yeah, that brings a lot of people from,

if you want to call it the left, to the right, to the reason is when people are willing to acknowledge the flaws in their own faith, the business that has erupted around their faith, that's like people that aren't even involved are like, wow, maybe this person is actually cogent. I think there's a simple distinction between christianity for instance and wokeism in terms of ideology ideology that's that one seeks with christianity there is something beyond you as a human being and beyond everybody with wokeness you're god it's you you are owed things

the world must change for you it's it's it's yin yang almost it's the the belief that there is something greater than me and so it's not about me and then there's the woke side where it's i'm owed and i deserve well and again go listen to james lisney what he's talking about gnosticism right it's a it's a hermetic it grabs a hold of a faith whether it's christianity islam it doesn't matter what it, and it infests it to a certain extent and turns the doctrines and everything towards what its political motive is. And so it is an era- It wears your ideology like a skin suit.

Exactly. And so go listen to James Lindsay and what he's talking about Gnosticism, because what you're describing there is exactly what he's talking about. That's the Malthusian. I like that. I actually identify with that kind of thing. Like I am God. There is a God beyond me and I am God together.

We make God. Jesus was God, yet there was God without him. But you're not Jesus. No, it's different. No. Yeah, it is different. It's very much the same. God flows through us.

It animates our bodies. So we are part of it. But when you start looking at yourself as somebody who can be on the plane as God, then you have nothing beyond yourself to search for. And therefore, the only thing that matters is what you care about in the moment. And that's what James has been talking about a lot, is that if you see yourself as a version of God or as on equal par with God, then you're automatically just going to completely divorce yourself from anything natural in the world.

You're going to say, well, if I feel like a girl, I am a girl, right? And if my son says he feels like a girl, then he is a girl, and I'm going to make him into one. That's what it turns into if you see yourself as that level of deity. Yeah, it doesn't end there. It doesn't end with I'm God, and therefore I control reality. It's I am God, and God't end there. It doesn't end with I'm God and therefore I control. It's I am God and God is I am. It's both. If you can't maintain both thoughts at the same time, you're doomed to chaos is a God and then there is you. Would you say that to Jesus Christ if he was sitting here? You'd tell him he'd lost the plot? Jesus Christ, I believe, was a different situation, right?

I mean, he was divinely inspired. He was here for a purpose, and then he left, right? He died on the cross for our sins, and then he rose again, and then he said, this is the faith that you need to be saved in the afterlife and beyond. But he didn't say, hey, Ian, you can be just like me. You're the only begotten son of God too. No, he said, you are one with me, but you are not me, right? You must live towards a goal. You're never going to be perfect, right? But striving for perfection is what makes life worth living. Making the mistakes and then repenting and then doing better the next time is what makes life worth living. Making the mistakes and then repenting and then doing better the next time is what makes life worth living.

But just seeing that no matter what I do is right because I'm God, that's a completely different thing. We're going to go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com. Become a member because once we wrap up this show around 10 p.m., we will kick off the live uncensored members only portion of the show. After that show wraps, the live just the recording remains on the website to be watched at your leisure at any time and will be part of a massive library of existing content. The only difference between what we used to do and what we're doing now is that you can watch as we record. So before we would record it, then upload it. Now we'll just live stream it,

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It'll be a lot of fun and like with radio i imagine we're gonna be telling a lot of people you got to turn the turn the computer down to the we're getting echo we're getting echo all right hill billory clinton says animals and crops are dying in east palestine and it's due to the government releasing chemicals and trying to be covert about it now will you finally say mk naomi i don't know what does that mean i don't know that naomi wolf no idea say it say it say her name i did all right smoking man vibe says i bet biden knows the cat knows the calves but asking about ohio and he knows nothing he is such a liar isn't that right ian oh i'm sorry i was just reading about mk naomi dude it's a cia research program have you heard of

this chemical warfare program from the 50s to the 70s this is not i'm sorry what was that last super chat was that directed at me says i bet biden knows the calves but ask him about ohio he knows nothing he's such a liar isn't that right ian yeah well he loves ohio but don't ask him about it because he'll tell you doesn't know anything about ohio not a lie though on second thought says which is harder for joe elected biden stares or a complete sentence answers please yes and then a bocus emoji a little tonight i was thinking about bringing bucko up a little uh late night a little bocus i'll go grab bucko i'll be back all right powder pz says he had balloons tied to his gun and biden shot the

balloons with missiles from an F-22. That explains it. The balloon story was because it was carrying the weapon there. Nambizzle, a.k.a. James, says I watch in the a.m. at work gets me through the toughest part of my day as a letter carrier. I just wanted to say I wore my SSJ Trump shirt today before I knew Trump was going to Ohio. Awesome. The Super Saiyan Trump shirt we made. Yeah, kamagamaga.

I went to an AI and I was like, Donald Trump going Super Saiyan and it's Trump yelling, ah, and his hair is... Very nice. All right. Okamihoro. Okamihoro says,

do everyone an actual service by covering where the individual is shot. This fact matters a great deal in the chest that's right yeah Copper Lobo says Norfolk Southern Railroad

is owned by Vanguard BlackRock and JP Morgan yeah but like to be fair they own everything so you know that's true

Brandon Hampson says Tim in regards to the unalive case you're missing the obvious the guy shot himself with a ghost gun. Ha ha. Redwing Blackbird says, did

Kurt Cobain have connections to the Clintons? Yeah, that explains it. Yeah. Yes. Bobcat says, Gary Webb or Danny Casolaro granted most journalists who investigate the CIA mob DOJ trinary tend to commit suicide in

impossible ways fairly often and they do because the alphabet agencies want you to know that they can say whatever they want and make it obvious it's a warning that's right all right tnt for you says tim come on man the 500 million dollars isn't coming from our tax money it's just being printed for future generations to pay for money. It's just being printed for future generations to pay for. Technically, it's also just being extracted from your buying power, from your savings. So when they print money and then give it to Ukraine and they buy stuff with it, you work hard, you put money in the bank, the government then just fabricates money to give to someone else. They don't work hard. They spend it on war. But that money gets spent back in the

United States, causing inflation, and your ability to buy things for your hard work goes down. It's an invisible tax where they're extracting your hard work and you don't see it happening. That was the trick. One day, some dude said, listen, if we go to all the people and tell them to give us a dollar, you know, they're going to get really angry. If we just make the dollars, we extract from their labor because their debt is the guarantee for this money

meaning the fact that you're willing to accept these dollars in the first place means the money has value to somebody else and then the more we flood the market the more we extract from your buying power based on your labor so you're giving your money away but you don't see it happening and that's how modern monetary policy works

we got, oh you just ran out of the table. You got a Bocas. What's he doing? He was sleeping. You woke him up. Well, you got to close the door. Good. Yeah, he looks great. Where'd he go? Yeah, he's down here. He's just standing there doing Bocas stuff. We're gonna need some Bocas emojis in the check. You want to get them on the table? Get it going. You got them? Mr. Bocas. Want to bring them up? No. He's not having it?

Yeah. All right. Lord Lucas Ward says, where is the bloody UFO? Ian with a one roll. Oh, there's Mr. Bocas. Oh, hi, Bocas. Wow, he's looking real good. Yeah, he's been dancing around.

Hopefully those stem cells have been. I brought him on last thursday i think it was shortly after he'd gotten an ejection so he was exhausted that day but this is i mean he just woke up he's looking all right well i was listening i was listening to the daily wire morning cast on the ufo situation and they were saying that they had an explanation for all of these supposed ufos that the pentagon was you know calling ufos at the point you know it was one was from like a bottle cap company like where they were just putting up a balloon or something like that but they had an explanation and none of them had to do with you know aliens or anything

like that but they were they were sure enough very cryptic in the moment while all this stuff in east palestine was going on to make you think oh it could have been a ufo we got all the bocus emojis in the chat they love you bucko there he is you're just doing a good sitting there doing bocus stuff he's ruling the table right now we were we were told he'd be dead in a week wow yeah and then we got him medicine hormone treatment fluid injections it was it was very expensive and now he's getting stem cells and he seems to be uh he's he's getting a little thicker he was really gaunt he was fading and now he seems to be coming back i think in about a half a pound half a kilogram half a pound it was a fourth of a pound the first week then 0.02 kilograms the second week wow i measured him lately i think the stem cells might be working i think the hormones

and the fluid probably helped one of the reasons for the weight loss might may have been the anemia so you know he's he we don't know how much longer he'll have, even if his treatment is working. But the stem cells may be what give him a few more years. He's a long cat. Yeah, dude. Yeah, Mr. Bocas.

Legit. All right, what do we got here? Austin Brown says, podcast of the Lotus Eaters has been showing the absurdity of the UK situation. A million plus a year coming into a

country the size of new york state you know david toronto says so tim we should leave them in florida texas etc no my point was texas should have the right to deport people that's it's that simple texas and florida should deport them back to their home countries there you go yeah how are you going how's it going mr bogus what are you doing but what is preventing them from just doing like california doesn't ignoring the federal law on it letting them in yeah because yeah i mean the issue with deporting is that it's an issue for another country yeah texas can't talk with i think you got to put a little bit more water in there no he's got it oh yeah look he's thirsty does he is he still drinking a lot of water like crazy no because that was that that was a sign that his kidneys were failing he kept

drinking water i think the new food has offered him better hydration when he was even with the new food he was drinking water like crazy i think it's the stem cells and he's still getting fluid every other day shout out to kim i mean it's this is a it's a it takes a tribe to raise a young one like this kara's been doing a fantastic job with him, too. He absolutely loves her. All right. Pat Meadows says, did Biden observe ash Wednesday? Yes, he did.

Yes, he did. Yeah. He had the ash on his forehead. I thought it was a bruise from him falling down, but it was the ash. Falling up. Oh, falling up. Falling up. Sorry.

Sorry. Biden's ashes were made of cremated babies. Cremated aborted babies. Brado Jacko says, open borders cannot work with a welfare state, election corruption, and zero social cohesion with no understanding of American civics or the Constitution. Agreed.

He's really jamming his face in there. I think he needs more water. Get it, bucko. Oh, that looks good. Oh, he's a thirsty friend. There you go. Matt McCartney says, The Constitution does not apply to anyone in the country.

A tourist or non-resident immigrant can't buy a gun here under any legal circumstances. The Constitution absolutely 100% does apply to anyone in the country. The fact that they don't let people buy guns means they're infringing on your rights. But it does. There have been numerous Supreme Court cases about the Fourth Amendment and the First Amendment and basically all the amendments. The Constitution applies to everybody. It just means that at this point, they're infringing on almost every element of the Constitution.

The Constitution is a list of no's for the government. It doesn't tell the people that they're not allowed to do stuff. Exactly. Alright. Ryan Ellis says, Cali will never turn red. I deliver medication to halfway homes and dementia hospitals. They let those people vote. Guess who they vote for? California was red up until

what, like 1988? 1988 was the last time it voted for a Republican. George H.W. Bush. But there's a systemic method that they use to turn it what it is today and the scary part about that is i see the same thing happening in oklahoma right now what is it where where you have it starts in the universities where you have this in oklahoma they have what's at ou they have what's called the strategic research verticals, where you have the university with a plan to build public-private partnerships beyond the walls of the university to create or to push an agenda that really lines up almost point by point with the WEF. And right now, it's all around ESG. And what they do is they start implementing programs like,

for example, in Oklahoma, they're doing criminal justice reform. Well, there are some good parts about that. But what the left sees is, wait a minute, now there's a red state we can go to, right, that's cheaper to live and import a bunch of Californians from California and Oklahoma. And all of a sudden, you just start turning the state blue. And that and then you just start giving more and more people more subsidies, more government assistance. And over time, over 30 years, you end up having California, that's kind of what happened. Chris Rufo covered this before he started covering CRT about how there was kind of a flag that they threw up saying, hey, look, homeless people come here, right? What they did in San Francisco, what they did in LA.

We're going to build you low-cost housing. Almost nobody lives in that low-cost housing. It's still sitting there, right? And lots of people made money off of building it, but all of the homeless came there, right? And they get free food, they get free cell phones, they get all these other government assistance, and they vote because people go out and hand on the ballot and then grab it

and bring it in and turn it in. And that's what you're starting to see little by slowly, especially like in the college towns in Oklahoma. And it's designed to spread out. And I've been trying to warn people there, guys, all of these things that sound really good, that weaponize your empathy, that this is to help people isn't always exactly what it seems so we should watch it yeah y'all should watch yellowstone yes because some people are like don't spoil the show don't spoil the show okay i won't spoil the show but a lot of this stuff uh it plays a role in the show the simple version is you've got

people who are from montana which there's you, which the joke is no one's from Montana. And then you have people from New York and California who are liberal elites with lots of money who use it as a playground. And there's conflict. Well, and in Oklahoma, they just brought in Google and gave them charge over collecting data for the state with Chrome pads and things like that. So it's a hairy scheme because you get a lot of money. You get a lot of that tide that raises all ships, but the tide seems to be really like communist red. Normies Get Out says,

look at the liberal states that get blasted by the Supreme Court for violating the Constitution and their two-way laws. They just change the law slightly and reapply it and rinse and repeat. That's right. When they shut the churches down

and the courts, I think it was a court in New York said, hey, you can't do that. They went, okay, I'll just issue a new executive order doing the exact same thing. And then you'll have to sue me for that, too. Phil is hanging out with Mr. Bocas over there. I'm popular.

Mr. Bocas. Mr. Bocas is doing himself. All right, what do we got? Lopardi says convention of states to throw California out. Yes, a convention of states where the, what is it? What are we on, Amendment 28? California is no longer a member state of the union. Bye.

Someone was saying. That's better than a full national divorce. It might have been Thomas Massey. We had a politician on and I was asking about national, or not national divorce, but convention of states because I keep thinking like that's a solution, that's a way forward. And I was warned, he warned me that it could be weaponized.

Absolutely. It needs to be, now I don't know the details, you can follow at COS Project on Twitter, and they have all the deets about the progress of the effort for a convention. It has to be limited in scope, and the delegates have to, the delegates from the several states have to abide by that. So if something is brought up that is outside of the scope agreed upon,

everyone has to get up and leave, or something to that effect. There are ways to put guardrails on it. I'm not the expert that can tell you the details about it. But yes, it is definitely, I mean, it's an extreme measure. We have, you know, even to amend the Constitution is actually fairly extreme because the amendment process is intentionally rigorous. It's not supposed to be easy to do these things because we're supposed we have states that have the have

the capacity and the the they're empowered to pass laws for the several states each each state can make basically whatever law they want so to make an amendment to the constitution is supposed to be a big deal the fact that people say oh you know we should just do this or just do that the federal government should do that that was that all this stuff is outside of the federal government's initial charter. Like the things that the federal government is is empowered to do are listed in the Constitution. The things that the federal government is specifically prevented from doing are listed in the Bill of Rights. And then any changes are in the in the amendments that follow the the bill of rights and they're supposed to be hard because of the way that our our government is supposed to but the administrative state has

taken advantage of that absolutely because that's you know um there's uh vivek ramaswamy has said that he wants to have an eight-year term for people in the administrative state you know that if you serve eight years you're done i like right i love that term limits for politicians is is not as attractive to me as term limits on bureaucrats exactly that's that you should not be able to work in a three-letter unconstitutional um uh apparatus for that long because you will amass power just by being there for that long yeah and so i i really like that idea i think that every i think i think that's the direction we should go i had not heard that but that is that that is to me seems like a far better idea than the idea that you get rid of politicians every you know well i think you should get rid of them both i mean i think you should have term limits across the board but you shouldn't be allowed to camp in the cia

the fbi the irs for all of these years and amass power and push your political agenda under the radar. There should be an apparatus where the president, I mean, the president can't even fire a lot of these people, which is ridiculous. That's ridiculous. You know what I mean? But at the very least, let's have a constitutional member or a law or statutory law that says your eight years are up. You find a new job. You know what I mean? All right. Disobey says the Fed offered all of the states several million to expand red flag laws. Kansas was offered 2.6 million. I wonder if this is part of Biden's plan

to help with the spill. Oh, interesting. Yeah, I can see that. But they would want some sort of like red flag thing. They're like, we give for you, you give for us. us but see they're in a state of disaster right now so that should be the perfect opportunity for them to take advantage crazy crazy that's like yeah all right merrick miller says don't eat any what chef want what chefs want products in colorado they are ordering employees to perform illegal and unethical policies and procedures that are a threat to public health. Interesting. Not familiar with that. Hillbillory Clinton says, but Biden says you can't have weapons like us.

Planes and nukes are what people would need in a civil war. Otherwise, you would be conquered. Guess I'm paraphrasing, but it's close. Yeah. And maybe he has an answer for, I don't know, Vietnam or Afghanistan. Yeah. Yeah. Because the reality is an F-22 can't occupy a street corner. A lot of dudes named Mohammed in Afghanistan. Yeah. Yeah, because the reality is an F-22 can't occupy a street corner.

A lot of dudes named Muhammad in Afghanistan are like, yo, I think you're wrong, man. Yeah, and now they have all of the American equipment that they left behind. Thanks for the night vision, bro. Hillbillory Clinton says again, how much do I have to donate to your machine for you to notice me? Which machine?

What are you talking about? I notice you. We see you. That's right. Hillbillory. Hillbillory. I like the name, too. Hillbillory is a good name. Enval90 says, Ian needs six more Chaos Emeralds to go supersonic. Okay. Okay.

I've got Emeralds downstairs. You know what? I will bring an Emerald up tomorrow. That's a good one. I always thought it was funny that in Dragonball Z, the brown-eyed, black-haired dude, when he became super powerful, super, he turned blonde and he got blue eyes. Racist. No, no, for real.

What was up with that? And then Sonic was the same way. When Sonic went Super Sonic, he would turn gold. And it's like, okay, gold, I guess. But Goku in Dragon Ball Z is like, I'm going to become really powerful. And then his hair turns blonde and his eyes turn blue. I'm like, there's something weird about that.

Just like Aryan Nation. Yes, something weird about that, huh? They all do it. Naruto is from Japan, right?

Yeah. Ah, it's Leftovers from the War. But Naruto's not Dragon Ball Z. They don't go Super Saiyan in that. Okay,

my bad. In Naruto, he just, like, the nine-tailed fox spirit. So is Dragon Ball Z made in Japan?

Dragon Ball Z is japan yeah yeah okay and and the funny thing is anime in japan is like man i can't remember what neighborhood i was in but they have like big bill billboards and art of goku and lupin the third and other characters that have been around since the 70s or 80s to them their cartoon characters are like movie stars almost but i guess it's also kind of like mickey mouse yeah or donald duck the crazy thing though is in america our famous cartoon characters are you know like what is mickey mouse famous for doing like driving a steamboat or something and then and then donald duck complains about a lot of stuff i guess their cartoon characters are famous for you know like flying blowing like saving planets and you know doing martial arts or like i guess lupin the third

was a was a thief you know yeah well our more modern cartoons like x-men and things like that but i guess they were yeah but we but like but we we we have mickey mouse everywhere yeah that's true they have goku everywhere goku is like flying around beating people up you know he's a good guy he's not a bad guy you know he's beating up the bad guys but mickey mouse didn't do anything like that mickey mouse is going oh whatever that's all about japan's so awesome yeah it's a cool place have you been there you know they have like they have stores good they have whack-off stores yeah they do what do we do it in the store yeah you go in the store and then they have like a variety of objects and towels and you go into a room and it's like the weirdest thing i've ever seen but

it's like a normal thing in japan it reminds me of Idiocracy where you get a latte. You don't even understand what Japan, they're freaky deaky, man. It's weird. I was in Japan in 2011 at the earthquake. Whoa, really? I was on CNN.

They interviewed me and stuff. You're in the deep state. What? Alright, Bucko's had enough for the night. I'm going to say goodbye. Mr. Bocas. And Mr. Bocas is off. Oh, sorry, buddy. Let's roll.

You know, I've never been in an earthquake, but I was in the deep south about an hour from New Orleans during Katrina. Yeah, it was rough. Alright. Let's see. We got Audio Somatic

says, hey, I saw Jordan B. Peterson in Everett, Washington on the 19th. He announced a new group he is helping to put together that is going to combat the WEF. Look into it, please. I think we've talked about it. But he wants to do it in London. It's like, why London? I don't know. It seems like a he wants to do it in London. It's like, why London? I don't know. It seems like a bad place to do it.

It does. You know, like Charlestown, West Virginia seems like a good place to do it. And I'm only half kidding. It would be very convenient for me if he did it here. But you've also just got West Virginia. It's the second most MAGA country, MAGA state in the country. That seems to make more sense. What's the first?

Florida? Texas? No, it's Oklahoma. Oklahoma. a oklahoma it's got to be close no i think it's wyoming wyoming was the most trump supporting state yeah uh tyler price says naruto is also blonde hair and blue eyed lmao that is true naruto is blonde with blue eyes and then i guess the elric brothers had like reddish eyes yeah they were blonde though and their dad's name was Hohenheim, so literally it was a Germanic name.

It's so weird. I never understood that. I'm like, why are Japanese people making all these shows about... Then you get Attack on Titan, and it's all German. Literally. The buildings and everything. Yeah. It's kind of weird. Are you trying to tell us something?

I don't know. World War II? Maybe. Caleb Genra says, North Dakota pumps a million barrels of oil a day, or used to. Why does North Dakota only get one house seat? We're an energy powerhouse,

plus we grow food. Well, it's called leverage. Yeah. You should probably leverage it. Population. Yeah, population. That's why. The Badlands.

Because Reason says, I'm not suggesting anyone is famous. However, if you were, and some people on the show are, how do you stay humble for no reason? Well, Phil, how do you stay humble? I try not to think of myself as different from anyone else.

I mean, I'm very much a normal dude i do normal dudes things like i don't do like rock star things really i mean i don't drink i don't blow lines i don't you know i'm not into into meth did you used to be like a crazy rock star i used to drink too much um actually now this month is five years. It was five years on February 14th since I had my last sip of booze. But yeah, I quit drinking because drinking, it didn't do anything positive for me anymore.

There are so many reasons I stopped drinking. I can't even begin to get into them. There was literally nothing good that came from drinking and more bad things than i could ever list off but i can imagine beating something like that or stopping something like that it does help keep you humble because you saw yourself in the worst possible oh yeah i mean i yeah like falling down in a face flat in a gutter that'll that'll help you oh yeah

i tell you what that there is there is is nothing that humbles you more than waking up and being like, oh, God, I did say it. So someone chatted. I don't know if there's a super chat. Someone chatted, Edward Elric had blue eyes. Yes, it's super 503 Dank says, the Elric brothers both had blue eyes, which is weird since you know they're dead. No, they don't. The Elric brothers have yellowish hazel eyes, I guess weird since you know they're dead. No, they don't. The Elric brothers have yellowish, hazel eyes, I guess you'd call it.

You know, yeah. But, you know, just whatever. I'm being pedantic. I'm colorblind, so I'm really triggered by all this. Japanese people really like this concept of when you become powerful, you get blonde hair and blue eyes. That's all I'm saying. I don't know why. I don't know why. What's that all about? Nervous.

Disavow. Dalton says says, Daltun says, Do you think the military, majority Republicans, are willing to fight in a war Biden has made a point to happen? I think U.S. military folk will get out. Draft time.

Yes, perhaps. I don't know, though. It's a hell no from me, bro. I don't think that the... Well, Steve Dace, just the other night, said absolutely not. I think Steve Dace said it best.

I haven't heard someone speak out against a war like that since clips of dudes in Vietnam. I just had my first daughter and my first child, and I can't imagine. I'm right there with him. You know, I'm not sending... Especially our daughters. I mean, come on. There's no way I'm sending anybody to fight and die over there. I think that the Biden administration intends or would intend on Ukrainians doing most of the footwork and doing essentially the same thing that they had done in Afghanistan for the last four years of the occupation. Special forces, some direct action guys but mostly ukrainians

and then drones and then lots and lots of materials yep lots of materials military industrial complex right yeah because that's profitable and it keeps the population in the u.s happy because you don't get a lot of body bags so you get a bunch of dollars that get pumped into all the states because of the way that the military industrial complex has broken up the production of everything the f-35 is made in like every state in the country every state has a part that they make so the whole the the government and they do that with all sorts of different uh products that the the military industrial complex it sounds like sustainability yeah the wef right they spread it

across well they spread it across the country because congress people are like oh i want to get a little piece for my district so they go ahead and they get they have all the the production of stuff spread across across the country you have very few americans coming home in body bags and stimulating the u.s economy by pumping money into it all across the country it's a win-win war is a win-win for the government especially modern war the university of oklahoma is explicitly it's in its strategic research vertical says you know aerospace and defense you know it's specifically having to do with weather i don't know exactly how that works but it's invested deeply heavily and this is a public state-funded university or like controlling the weather to destroy your opponent or or you know individual carbon footprint trackers right you know yeah

well yeah then because then they can tax your carbon they tax they can prevent you from doing things in the real world because you've used up your carbon right you've used up your allotment for carbon so any and it could be whether it be everyone gets a large amount or more than likely everyone's going to get a very very small amount and if you have a social credit system that's going to be connected to your carbon usage and they can basically have a digital gulag where they keep you locked in your home or locked in your 15 minute city and you're not allowed to go anywhere. You're allowed to, but you can't get anywhere

because you don't have enough carbon. And what will end up happening is that people will figure out ways to sell carbon credits and there'll be a black market for carbon. I guarantee that because big companies are going to have carbon credits that people will figure out ways to siphon off.

There'll be a whole new economy selling carbon to people that have lots of money and it'll still be rich people doing whatever the F they want while the poor and the middle class gets decimated. There'll be fewer in the middle class and the poor are going to be stuck in

the pod. Alright, we'll read one more here. Clef the Misfit says, Akira Toriyama has said the reason Goku and others in Dragon Ball Z are blonde as Super Saiyans is because he got sick of coloring in their hair. That's awesome. I believe it. I believe it. All right, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button? Smash it! And subscribe to this channel.

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Play metal. It's sick. Yeah. Ian Crossland, what's up, everybody? Follow me at iancrossland.net if you want to. Mark, that was really fun. Yeah, man. I like talking about theology.

Yeah, it's fun. And God, that's very much enjoyable. You should come on my show and let's talk about it. Okay. Let me know when. Hit me on Twitter or something. And the UFO, in case you're wondering, is here and will be spun in the future. We just my show and let's talk about it. Okay. Let me know when. Hit me on Twitter or something. And the UFO, in case you're wondering, is here and will be spun

in the future. We just had a little bit of fun with it. Who was that yesterday we had on there? WeezyFbaby. The one and only. Anyway, this is an aquamarine in case anyone's wondering. It's refracting the light from below. I thought it looked pretty cool. Alright, see you later. Yeah, we've been

putting interesting things on the UFO thing so I'll take credit for that. Sorry, it looked pretty cool. All right. See you later. Yeah, we've been putting interesting things on the UFO thing, so I'll take credit for that. Sorry, Ian. You win. Yeah, I'm at surge.com on Twitter. Oh, yeah. Phil has motioned to me to say tomorrow we will be on the Pop Culture Crisis podcast. I forgot to tell it.

Yeah, yeah. It'll be fun. That'll be during the daytime. I think it's like 2 o'clock. 3. 3 o'clock Eastern Standard Time. Check eastern standard time check us out there see you guys later and uh we'll be live over at timcast.com if you go to the home page in about 10 minutes you will see the members only live click it and you can watch there's comment system it's not too great just yet but come hang out with

us and uh it will improve in the future thanks for hanging out and we'll see you all in a few minutes