Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #727 Fetterman Rumored BRAINDEAD, Sponsors Bill Despite Hospitalization w/Ashley St. Clair

Episode Date: March 3, 2023

Tim, Ian, Mary, & Serge join Ashley St. Clair to discuss rumors suggesting John Fetterman is actually brain dead, Joe Biden laughing at a mother who lost her children to fentanyl overdoses, Gen Z not ...wanting to settle down and have kids, and a Tennessee police officer who claims she was sexually groomed by other officers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:06 apparently signed on to some legislation and drafted a letter, despite the fact he's been hospitalized for two weeks and no one has seen him since. And his wife and children have fled the country. OK, fled. They went on vacation. And Fetterman's in the hospital for depression. The rumor that's going around is that he's brain dead or close to it. I don't know if that's true, but the dude was already suffering from some severe debilitating effects of a stroke.
Starting point is 00:01:30 So if the guy disappears for two weeks, no one's heard from him. I'm not so sure depression is the simple solution that makes the least amount of assumptions, especially when his family dips out of the country for vacation. But, you know, who knows? Maybe the guy's just chilling and he's depressed or whatever right after winning the biggest race of his life and accomplishing his dreams. He's sad now. I don't know. For all we know, like he got his dreams and then he's like, I can't function. And he really is depressed. But the rumor going around is that he's just no longer functioning near brain dead. And there are even some Republicans demanding proof of life, maybe a bit exaggerated. But a lot of people are wondering, how did he sign on to this legislation if he's currently
Starting point is 00:02:08 admitted to a hospital and not working? All right, let's talk about it. Then we got Joe Biden, who laughed when discussing a story about a mother whose two children died when they accidentally ingested fentanyl. And Karine Jean-Pierre says, no, no, no, he's being sympathetic to the family. Of course, of course, Biden blames Trump. Here's what I love about the story. Donald Trump inherits a busted border from Obama and Biden. And immediately, his whole campaign was building a wall to stop these problems. Immediately starts deporting people and trying to build a wall,
Starting point is 00:02:38 which is blocked by Democrats. And now you have Joe Biden saying, oh, no, that was Trump's fault. That was during the Trump administration. All right. Let's talk about the border crisis. There's a bunch of other stories, of course, we can get to. There's a Tennessee lawmaker who wants to bring back hanging people by a tree as a method of execution. Well, all right, I guess that seems to be where we're going.
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Starting point is 00:03:57 Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Ashley St. Clair. Hello, hello. Thanks for having me again, Tim. Absolutely. Who are you? What do you do?
Starting point is 00:04:07 I am. I do operations for the Babylon Bee, and I am also an author of the anti-trans children's book, Elephants Are Not Birds. Another story that we should talk about is this viral video of drag for babies. There's this viral video going around where there's literally babies. I'm not exaggerating. Babies on the ground as a guy does a thong striptease and there's like disco lights going off yo it should be criminal yeah it should be criminal well that's do not pass go do not collect
Starting point is 00:04:35 200 that's in london but i'm pretty sure it's already illegal it's just cops we'll get into we'll get into it also joining us tonight is mary morgan everyone. It's been a while since I've been on IRL. My name is Mary Morgan. Why is my voice shot? I'm on Pop Culture Crisis here in the attic at TimCast, and I was let out today. That's right, in the attic. Happy to be here. Maybe it's your meat diet.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Yeah, yeah. How's the meat diet? I've been on the carnivore diet recently. Still adjusting. I feel like I don't really want food anymore. I'm just repulsed by it now. All right, you're on the right track. Am I?
Starting point is 00:05:11 Is that a good sign? I don't know how this all works. Maybe godliness, something like that. Ashley, you said you put anti-trans in air quotes when you were describing your book. That's what they say about it. Okay, so that's the criticism, but the book itself is about you are what you are.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Be happy with what you are. Elephants are not birds. Boys are not girls. Girls are not boys. Hi, everyone. Ian Crossan here. Happy to be here. Good to see you again, Ashley, Mary.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Good to see you. Hi. Serge, what's happening, brother? Yo. Oh, your microphone's far away from your face. I'm just not talking into it. Yeah, ready to start the show. Let's jump into this first story.
Starting point is 00:05:43 We got this from the post-millennial John fetterman co-sponsor senate bill despite being institutionalized since february 15th fetterman's office has not said who is co-sponsoring legislation with his name on it while he remains institutionalized a senior aide revealed that fetterman would be hospitalized for up to two months so it's clearly not him i guess that's the important point is they're saying he's co-sponsoring this bill, but it's probably just a member of his staff. And I got to show you this right here from Twitter or from John Cardillo on Twitter. He says, this is from February 25th. It was a while ago. Being told that Fetterman is essentially brain dead and let me start over. Being told that Fetterman is essentially brain dead and it's being
Starting point is 00:06:26 hidden because keeping him in office until August 18th avoids a special election, which Republicans would most certainly win. This must be investigated. So here's the best part about this tweet. There's the the context gets added to it. And it says readers added context. They thought people might want to know the August 18th date has no significance. If a Senator from Pennsylvania passes away, a replacement appointed by the governor will serve until the next special election. Oh, thank you for the fact check Twitter. No, uh, no fact check on whether or not Fetterman's brain dead or not that one they did. So that's, I saw that and I was like, okay, the, the, a bunch of users said, no, no, no, there won't be a special election.
Starting point is 00:07:06 He's probably brain dead, but they'll just, you know, replace it. The 18th, it doesn't matter. They'll just replace him or something. So is Fetterman brain dead? They're not debating the brain dead part. Right. That's what I thought was funny. I'm like, you'd think they'd be like, there's no evidence to suggest that John Fetterman
Starting point is 00:07:20 is effectively brain dead. He was institutionalized with depression. I mean, that's not really a medical term, is it? Brain dead? Brain dead? I mean. It might be. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:29 And is this like a cover-up of a suicide attempt? No, no, no. Since he's struggling with depression? The depression's probably fake. I feel like the Democrat part. That's the fake part? Yeah, he's probably in the hospital because his brain doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Brain death is a thing. It's permanent, irreversible, and complete loss of brain function. Except for the brain stem, right? I don't know. The part that controls breathing or whatever? But they do say it's irreversible, so it could be hyperbolic in this situation.
Starting point is 00:07:57 We'll do an informal poll of the audience. We'll ask the audience, what is more likely, knowing Fetterman's health and medical history, that he is depressed after winning his dream election and checked himself into a hospital where he'll be for two months or the man who suffered a stroke not that long ago and still can't understand words had some kind of recurring health issue that has injured his brain further. I think that depression... Put a one in the chat if you think he's just depressed, and two if you think he's brain dead. I think the Democrat Party is the worst senior care home I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:08:35 I mean, between Fetterman and Biden, they cannot find out. I mean, they never know where these guys are. How do we not know where John Fetterman is? I don't know. How do we not know if he's brain dead? Well, I always roll my eyes a little bit at stuff like this it is convenient for conservatives in the right to be able to say he's brain dead because the dude's basically not around so in the world of politics this is i don't know par for the course guy goes to the hospital immediately
Starting point is 00:09:03 come out with some salacious rumor that's going to shock and damage the perception of this party. But I'm kind of like, of all the rumors they could have, the dude who had a stroke not that long ago who can't understand words, suffering another stroke,
Starting point is 00:09:15 is completely plausible. Because we talked about this before. People who suffer strokes are at risk for suffering them again. And then all of a sudden, dude's in the hospital for several weeks and get this, his wife is gone.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Giselle Fetterman children take trip to Canada in wake of Senator's hospitalization. She's truly a frightful looking woman. That's what gets me. Even if he's not brain dead, right? In what world, when anyone you care about is hospitalized because they're so depressed, do you flee the country? I think people were ragging on her. a lot of uh like on twitter they're like stop making fun of federman's wife
Starting point is 00:09:51 you're you're bad people and it's like dude her husband's depressed and in the hospital for weeks and she just went on vacation with her kids that is like that that's worse than what ted cruz did like with ted cruz he went on vacation during that ice storm. And it's like, well, he was with his family, though. You know, so at the very least, he cares about his family. This is like the senator's wife, whose husband is a senator,
Starting point is 00:10:12 not only fleeing the state, but also fleeing her husband, who is, you know, convalesced. That's dark. If he's just depressed, then what is the reason to hospitalize unless they think
Starting point is 00:10:23 that he's a danger to himself? Like... I don't know. I guess he checked himself in or something if you're depressed that's the last like a hospital is the last place you should be and they would just ship you off to a long-term medical facility that's not hospital this guy's a cucumber he's a cucumber it just doesn't add up to me and then they assign him this authoritarian lookinglooking schoolteacher woman. Everybody thought Ruth Bader Ginsburg died that one time. They're like, where is she? She's dead.
Starting point is 00:10:50 And then she pops up a few months later like, I'm still here. And so I wouldn't be surprised if Fetterman pops up later. Because if someone really was brain dead, then they can't keep that covered up forever. So I wonder if he's, I think injury makes more sense. Recurring injury makes more sense, but I don't know about brain death or death. I think depression makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Whenever someone suffers a head trauma, especially fighters, it's pretty common in the fight. They have all sorts of chemical imbalance. A lot of bad things can happen emotionally to people with head trauma. So if he had a stroke, it's very likely that confusion brings on depression. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:11:26 And then that could have led to stress. It additionally could have led to another episode or another injury as well. But I wouldn't, I think the depression for sure. What's that thing he's got where he can't understand words anymore? That was the big thing.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Like he can hear when you talk, but all he hears is like, a woe, woe, woe, woe, woe, woe, woe. And so he- That's problematic problematic it's very yeah so during during the debates there was a monitor and when they would talk it would translate the text to speech so they could look at and then read it and it was causing him problems yeah he had the cheat screen i wonder if just it got to the point where he's in office he just can't do the job and none of us thought he could do the job and so you know he's like so humiliating
Starting point is 00:12:06 maybe look if he is in the hospital i would i would say this if it's not a recurring injury then it's political and they probably said we can't work with you because your brain's broken go to the hospital and take a few weeks to see if you can get your head straight and we'll have your aides take care of the job for you. And we'll send your wife, too. Well, I don't know. Where did she go for vacation? Canada. Canada?
Starting point is 00:12:32 Canada in the winter is a great... Does she have family there? Maybe she's got family there. Here's the story from PennLive. What happens when your husband or father, a senator to boot, checks into the hospital and media trucks circle your home, pack the kids up and head to Canada, Giselle Fetterman says. Fetterman recently explained on Twitter that she and her kids left Pennsylvania for a family trip to Niagara Falls to get away
Starting point is 00:12:53 from the media coverage surrounding her husband's recovery at Walter Reed Medical Center in Washington, D.C. Fetterman checked himself in to receive treatment for clinical depression on February 16th, according to his chief of staff, Adam Gentleson. He is there on a voluntary basis while his family navigates how to deal with the grief that comes with such a hospitalization. Giselle Fetterman said she and her son ziplined across Niagara Falls and the family did other scary things together.
Starting point is 00:13:17 This is just a really, really weird story, isn't it? This sounds sick. It sounds sick. And the people writing this. Like what? Maybe she's leaving him. No, I could see they go into the hospital room and he's like incapacitated almost like, uh, but he's like, I want you to be happy kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Like do it. I would go with you. She's like, okay, we'll do it. We'll go zip lining over Niagara Falls. Does he have like a Stephen Hawking like voice generator or something? He can talk. He just can't understand the words that are said to him i don't know he could be in a coma for all i know i don't know that's the
Starting point is 00:13:49 rumor no remember when trump got covid and everyone was like oh he's dying he's dying they're covering it up um and then he did all the establishment journalists who didn't want to seem like they were establishment were like, I hope he dies. Like, they're really ugly people. I want the best for John Fetterman. I want him to be healthy, which is why I wanted him to lose because no person that just had a stroke should be taking on that kind of mental stress.
Starting point is 00:14:15 And obviously, and this is why. It's the same thing with Joe Biden. I genuinely feel bad for both Joe Biden and Fetterman. I feel like it's elder abuse what they're doing. Man, Joe is like... Putting them through the wringer. Well, Dianne Feinstein's in the hospital right now. But that's shingles.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Yeah, but still, like, how old is she? Can someone look up her age? So, okay, so we didn't even bring this up. We should have mentioned this. Dianne Feinstein's in the hospital. The Democratic Party is, with all due respect to the elderly, the geriatric party at this point.
Starting point is 00:14:44 At least Republicans have, like, you know, they're making respect to the elderly, the geriatric party at this point. At least Republicans have like, you know, they're making fun of the Republican Party and CPAC for the weirdos and the freaks. You had Joe Scarborough and MSNBC call them all weirdos and freaks. And I'm like, at least they're like young-ish. Especially McConnell. She's going to be 90 in June.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Wow. And Nancy Pelosi is still in office. It's just a whole bunch of really old people that are slowly dying. And young leftists don't like the democratic party so and this could finally be the end of this garbage political pie we need term limits we need term limits i agree you know what about how about wait i got it party term limits i mean you gotta change parties at some point a democrat cannot hold the same office longer than two consecutive terms or something like that unless they become a republican so like no no no any party so we do this if this any any seat a senator seat a congressional seat
Starting point is 00:15:37 is held by a democrat for you know like let's say term limits member of congress they can serve eight years after serve eight years. After those eight years, you can't have the same person or political party. Oh, you got to switch the whole thing up. Well, you know what I think? I think they should remove the D's and the R's on all of the ballots.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Agreed. It should be illegal. That way, because people will change their name to like Hot Lightning and stuff, and they'll get, or like Aaron Anderson. I don't think the biggest issue would be people changing their name to Hot Lightning and stuff. Or like Aaron Anderson. I don't think the biggest issue would be people changing their name to Hot Lightning. They'll be like, if you've got to represent yourself, just buy a piece of text on a paper when the vote comes to stupid voters or people that ignore voters. John Democrat Smith.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Yeah, they'll be like, Best Choice will be the name. And you'll be like, how does Best Choice keep winning the elections? I'm kind of joking, but I'm concerned that just taking the D and the R off wouldn't be enough because they'd still have the names. It is a start. You have to put your legal name. So we went to Congress a month ago, and we spent some time on there. Real quick. Real quick.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Sorry. Correction. We're not there this week. We're there next week. Yeah, next Friday. We interviewed them, and I got a vibe of why they don't seem to want term limits, why there's pushback. Because it's like a fraternity. You go in and they become such close, tight battle buddies, good friends,
Starting point is 00:16:48 that it's almost like losing an arm to see one of them have to go. Like Lauren Boebert, Matt Gaetz, they're tight. And if all of a sudden Lauren disappears, it's like, dude, that's part of our crew, man. It's not just that. They have to build their offices. When we went there, they were explaining how you get an office and then you have to do remodeling and you've got to set it up they give you space it's all you get and the staff is all integrated with people of other staffs and stuff it's it's it's but you know just
Starting point is 00:17:13 that's not enough reason to not have term limits in my opinion i just see why there's resistance to it now party term limits and bureaucrat term limits i think the party term limit thing is we could even one-up it and say a democrat a member of a party or i should say a political party cannot have a member serve uh within like we do a gap term so if a democrat is in office for eight terms then it can't be a democrat for the next eight terms and it could only be so so basically yeah that is after that it can be the democrats again so there's eight years where it's not the democratic party that means they'll have to be a third party because if a democrat district has their person term out they're not going to
Starting point is 00:17:54 vote republican so it's got to be a different political party and that could mean their end their ends up with we end up with like four or five different political parties they're very similar but whatever i'll take it break up the uh the duopoly of the private political organizations that control everything we're overdue for that has that ever happened on earth in any government that the same party can't hold power i don't know multiple terms no idea let's uh let's rag on joe biden how about that we got this story from fox News. How dare you? Mother of two sons who died from fentanyl demands Biden apologize for laughing about her story. Don't be a coward. Do something, Kiesling said in response to President Biden. So here's the story.
Starting point is 00:18:36 This woman had two of her sons die in summer of 2020. They took some pills they thought were Percocet. They were laced with fentanyl. They died. She's very upset about it. And the drugs apparently came over the southern border, a problem for which Donald Trump was trying to solve and actually campaigned on solving in 2015, a problem that existed under the Biden of the Obama Biden administration. So Marjorie Taylor Greene interviews this woman. Marjorie Taylor Greene then tweets out basically Biden's policies resulted in this. And then these people died. And then Biden, when asked about it, starts laughing, saying that was under the other guy.
Starting point is 00:19:11 That was that was under the Trump administration. So she's pissed. Obviously, her kids are dead. And the important point in this whole story is that Donald Trump inherits Joe Biden's administration. It's Obama's administration, but Biden's the VP. Trump, he's campaigning in 2015. Like, we got to secure the border. We got to stop the drug cartels. What happens? The media calls him racist. Okay. Biden, the Biden administration comes back in after the fact the border collapses. They, they claimed when Donald Trump was desperately trying to get funding to build the wall, that he was racist and they shouldn't do
Starting point is 00:19:42 it and it wouldn't work anyway. So here you have Joe Biden laughing that these two kids who died, died while Trump was president, despite the fact that Trump was trying to fix the problem. So I imagine it like this. Joe Biden and Barack Obama are in charge of the fire department when a bunch of fires erupt and they don't do anything about it. And then Donald Trump says, give me the fire hose and I'll put the fire out. Trump then starts desperately spraying these buildings trying to stop the fire. And then after a few years, Biden comes back, takes it from him and then laughs at all the people who died in that fire. Yeah, they were like, are you anti fire, Donald? Are you fire phobic? Yes, I guess. They said when
Starting point is 00:20:22 Trump is like China sending drugs, drugs they're like you can't say that that's racist then these kids die and biden's like haha that was trump is there video of him laughing oh yeah yeah he was giving a speech uh i don't know if he was laughing in a malicious way he's just not present of mind yeah i don't think he was doing he wasn't necessarily laughing at the woman he was laughing and mocking marjorie tayene. But it's like the context of it is Marjorie Taylor Greene says these two young men died because of these border policies. And it's Biden's fault. And Biden's like, no, it wasn't. Trump was president. It's like, dude, you were the vice president before Trump got in. And Trump literally campaigned on stopping a problem that was happening under your administration. How can
Starting point is 00:21:04 you how do you blame Trump for that? He doesn't understand because Hunter knew where to get the clean ones. That's right. He's got connections. I think the Democrats are the party of short-term gains. So they will let the border crisis keep going if it gives them a short-term benefit in terms
Starting point is 00:21:20 of economic numbers. But then he gives his State of the Union address and says, well says well we got to fix the crisis at the border we had over 70 000 fentanyl deaths as if he actually cares when they're the ones creating this problem and throwing gasoline on the dumpster fire at the border but he did say that at the state of the union he pretended to care at least for a moment can we just can i just you know someone else wrote that though joe joe joe biden so joe biden laughed at this story and it's just it's it was a layup it was so easy
Starting point is 00:21:50 someone could have come to him and said we got a really really great opportunity to boost your approval rating it's really really great this this marjorie taylor green is talking to this mother whose children died because the border crisis there's a perfect opportunity for you to win some points all you got to do is say, I'm so sorry to hear about what happened to your children. Trust me when I say I will do whatever it takes
Starting point is 00:22:11 to seek justice and make sure we end the fentanyl crisis. We are working very hard. I'm sorry we let you down, but trust me, we'll get the job done. Couldn't he just do that?
Starting point is 00:22:20 Like, does he have anybody? You don't even have to mean it. No, I know. That's what I'm saying. Like, just give us some empty platitudes about, trust me, we're working hard. No, he laughed. You don't even need to mean it no i know that's what i'm saying like just just give us some empty platitudes about trust me we're working hard no he left you don't even need a plan nothing but look look here's a guy who took a secret trip to ukraine with half a billion dollars while the east palestine crisis was happening and there's toxic chemicals spilling and he's just
Starting point is 00:22:37 like well better go to ukraine that's that's what matters you know to me i guess so i'm just kind of bummed yeah i want to insult him yeah i don't think it's an insult is he come on he's a bit of a prick i'm gonna call him um a dismissive prick is what i want to call him but like i've seen him just be like laugh and dismiss people like oh come on matt walsh would be proud uh and like he just laughed and did did the whole dismissive thing on marjorie which is what this sounds like is like that's the laughing and dismissal kind of thing. I've seen him do it to people that are like, hey, like people, his constituents yelling at him when he was on the campaign trail. I remember him get up in a guy's face one time. He called him fat, didn't he?
Starting point is 00:23:16 And he challenged him to a pushup contest. Wait, who? Joe Biden. Yeah. He challenged him to a pushup contest. He got in that guy's face and called him fat. You know, what's funny is that Trump's actually been doing better at, you know, one of the things about Trump that I know a lot of people liked, but a lot of people who voted for him
Starting point is 00:23:34 really didn't like was his brash attitude. He was, he was divisive. You know, he'd call people names. He'd insult them. Now, what are we seeing from Trump? He's putting out videos that are just like straightforward policy. Corporate press is calling it a traditional campaign or more so a traditional campaign and joe biden is just laughing about these problems like he's not even he's not even planning on running anyway maybe that's really it maybe he's just saying he's gonna run but you know he's not even care what's incredible too is they they had they give marjorie so much crap for how she acted at the state of the Union because she called him a liar. But now he laughs in the face of this mother whose two kids died and silence, except from Fox News.
Starting point is 00:24:15 He laughs. Hillary Clinton laughs wickedly. Kamala Harris laughs like an idiot. Hillary Clinton laughs wickedly because she's wicked. Joe Biden laughs because he is demented and none of those laughs are because of there's a big difference like none of it's because like a joke was told and they're laughing in response like kamala harris oh my gosh kamala harris's laugh is the most witchy laugh i've ever heard it starts off deep did you see the
Starting point is 00:24:41 the girl did the uh the kamala harris impression she's like no no it starts off deep. Did you see the girl did the Kamala Harris impression? She's like, no, no, it starts off deep. Just think about the psychological makeup of a career prosecutor. Like, no, eight years isn't enough. Throw him in for 30. To have that amount of power right now and to be laughing about stuff is insane to me. I understand humor. We're human. It's part of what we are.
Starting point is 00:25:04 But I think they're laughing because they have no vision of how to solve these problems. So they're just... I think we should just accept it though. That's who they are. They're laughing at us. They're laughing at us
Starting point is 00:25:13 while we die because of problems they created. That's who they are. Oh, your mic. What was that? That might have been your mic popped out. What were you saying?
Starting point is 00:25:21 Say it one more time. Oh, I said they're laughing at us and that's... We should just accept it. This is who they they are they're laughing at us while our children die because of problems they created yep but while they're laughing at us they're also turning around and going these poor people in ukraine don't you care about the ukrainians and i'm like i i i mean personally i know disconnected from what matters to normal people i mean yes they're emotionally attached to people in a country they can't find on a map but their own country they just don't care about is this
Starting point is 00:25:51 the most morally obvious thing to take a stand on i think it's lowest effort different than that though you said they're disconnected i don't think they're disconnected at all they know people are starving they know people can't afford to eat they can't afford live here. And they're choosing to care about these other things. They're choosing to laugh in the face. They know all these things, but they're not personally connected to it. Like, I remember there was this professor from, like, Columbia or something who years ago published a book about how he is like a functional. Oh, my mic is popping. He's like a functional heroin user.
Starting point is 00:26:22 And he's he's not an addict. He's just a functional heroin user and he's he's not an addict he's just a user but um he's obviously like you know not connected to the experience of people who in the opioid crisis are on these drugs because uh you know they're on the track to a death of despair and he's also sourcing his heroin like in a way that's safe because of his socioeconomic status. And then he publishes a book that completely downplays the gravity of this crisis because he's not really a part of it. And he's also a libertine like amoral academic. So he doesn't have any morals.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I don't remember what his name was he was just some like professor um wrote a book that was basically about like uh how he thinks that harm reduction is uh the best solution to the opioid crisis but also like you can use uh drugs like you can use narcotics safely uh if you don't't have pre-existing mental conditions. He basically denied that opiates have a pharmacological element of addictiveness, which is obviously untrue. Was it that doctor with the dreadlocks? Carl something? Yeah, I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:27:43 I never saw a picture of him. I just heard about it. This is why top-down governance doesn't work? Yeah, I don't remember. I never saw a picture of him. I just heard about it. This is why top-down governance doesn't work. Why central planning doesn't work. Because you lose touch with the people that you're not around. You need to let them govern themselves from a distance.
Starting point is 00:27:54 You have to. That's a mix, man. There's got to be some plan for like national defense. Like the original idea of federalism, you know, there's a federal government, but it's fairly weak in the States. Mostly take care of their own business. The problem is as a culture,
Starting point is 00:28:07 we're just too different. I suppose if you go back to the, the foundings of this country, most people just wanted to be left alone. And that worked really well. Like if you're in, you know, a new state or whatever, you were like, look, I'm here, I'm doing my thing. Leave me alone. The problem now is you have authoritarian ideologues in places like California that want authority over Texas and New York. Or, you know, New York and California basically agree on the same things. So they want authority over Texas and Florida.
Starting point is 00:28:32 So Texas and Florida can sit there all day and night and be like, we hereby agree to be left alone and we'll leave you alone. And California goes, you got it, buddy. And then as soon as they turn around, they go, start screwing with them. So I don't know how you, we, I don't know if there's a classical liberal
Starting point is 00:28:46 solution to the problem we are facing. Right. In times of war, like I'll put it this way. Anarchist societies don't work. Right. We can talk about, I think, Catalonia, the famous anarchist attempted at a country. I forgot what the story was, but they try to create this anarchist enclave and it gets crushed instantly by barbaric outside forces. If you've got a hundred, you know, guild members who vote on policy because that's an anarchist system. Everybody comes together and they wiggle their fingers. And then next door, you've got an authoritarian regime where one guy dictates everything. What do you think is going to happen? The one guy dictating everything is going to say to his military, crush them. And then when the anarchist people see the barbarians
Starting point is 00:29:32 heading towards the city, they go, we're under attack. Quick, what do we do? And they're like, well, we're anarchists. We don't believe in centralized planning. So let's hold a meeting and have a discussion on how do we approach this attack. And then a day later, they're overrun and they're all dead. You know, you could have some kind of mixed system where in times of emergency they elect an executor who can then take over and become a temporary emperor like we saw with i think it was cincinnatus was was that his name yeah he was like right he's like i don't want to be an emperor and they're like well we're in an emergency and we need one now to act with executive you know emergency powers and then after like what like two weeks he was like, he was like, I'm a farmer again.
Starting point is 00:30:05 I don't want to do this. And it's like an epic story. But the issue is in times of crisis and emergency, we fall into executive decision-making. We don't just sit back and say, let's vote on it. So right now, as we're dealing with a cult, ideological, authoritarian, and terroristic regime, there is no passive voting
Starting point is 00:30:25 your way out of a conflict with these people. They're firebombing buildings. They're sterilizing kids. Vote like there is no peaceful. Let's all come together and have a decision. No, it's going to be for now. I think the solution is probably hard legislation and law enforcement. No more. You know, we got to be, we have to be tolerant of the adult man thrusting his hips in front of that baby. No, that's a crime. And that person should probably be arrested and charged. And it's about time we stop passively saying, we'll just let them do their thing because it doesn't bother us. Hey, look, we're here in Texas and in Texas, we have laws, but if California wants to do it, that's California's business. That's federalism. And
Starting point is 00:31:02 that's what people are arguing for. And I'm kind of like, no, maybe the federal government should be like, there's a standard and you can't have sex, adult sex shows for children. So we're going to stop that. But too many conservatives are telling me that civil war is not going to, it can't happen. The country would be crushed. China would take over. Fair point. I agree.
Starting point is 00:31:17 And then they say federalism is the answer. Let the states do what they want. And I'm like, why? So California can start having sex shows for kids. Like they've been doing that. They're doing it in Texas. I don't see a classical liberal solution of this there's going to have to be a a centralized baseline morality that we all agree on so and then we enforce the law and we're seeing it in california now with the gender transition stuff making that a safe
Starting point is 00:31:41 haven for kids to go to california so if you can't get it in texas you can go over to california and get it like abortion right so so this idea of federalism just means that you're going to have states that do things that are morally abhorrent but you're going to have two factions if you want to avoid civil war the answer is have the laws be enforced at the federal level california cannot just let illegal immigrants come into the state and there's nothing done about it. The problem is, is the selective enforcement, which is probably useful because like marijuana,
Starting point is 00:32:12 schedule one narcotic. Are you insane? It's like a plant. Like don't OD on it, but they're obviously, William Randolph Hearst wanted to get that stuff made illegal in the late 20s, early 30s to get his paper empires. He owned all the trees. He was tired of printing on hemp.
Starting point is 00:32:25 He wanted to print on his trees. So he manipulated Harry Anslinger and Congress to make it a narcotic. Federal one scheduled narcotic. That's insane. And if the federal government goes into California to bust them up for selling weed, I do not agree with that overreach of federal law. Yeah, but that's something that's debatable. These issues like drag queens thrusting in front of kids shouldn't be.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Now, I think it should be debated. It has to be debated now because of it, because the situation. I don't think there should be any debate. I'm not willing to have a conversation or hear anyone's side on why you think a man dressed as a woman who's wearing a thong and leather get-ups should be reading to our children. Reading? We're not talking.
Starting point is 00:33:06 We're well past that. Dancing, thrusting, pole dancing. They're doing all of this. So we talked about Bill Maher the other day. He's got that clip on CNN where he said the transgender activists have gone too far. And there was a bit of context that I think we missed because Jake Tapper says, yes, but what the trans activists would say is that now they're trying to ban all of this stuff regardless of what the kid or the doctor says.
Starting point is 00:33:27 And Bill Maher says, well, perhaps that backlash went too far. Well, hold on there a minute, Bill. Bill Maher actually said the banning of child sex change surgery went too far. When did Bill Maher start being in favor of children getting sex change operations? He's because he's defending it now saying, no, no, no, that's too much. That's too much. We should allow that. And I'm just like, within the span of a couple of years, like literally two years, we went
Starting point is 00:33:51 from there are no child sex change surgeries to they are, but they're rare to the backlash against it is going too far. And it should be completely legal for all children. The pace is incredible in which this all became widely accepted. And I blame cops, but this is probably part of the weakening of institutions, defund the police. Now you have in Texas, the famous story was they were doing the adult sex show for children where it said like it's not going to lick itself and all that. And then the cops were like, well, you know, I can't get involved in this kind of stuff. And it's just like, are you kidding me? There are adult men with fake sex organs
Starting point is 00:34:27 dancing for children with a big sign that says it's not going to lick itself. And you're just going to stand there. Well, you know, they, it's. But they shut down that woman in Texas for operating her salon during COVID. Yep. That's why I've been like abolish the police.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Like look at all the major news that's been coming out for for the past several years why and there was a woman who opened a cafe in minnesota and it was against the covid rules so they hunted her down and arrested her yet you can have adult men with fake genitals thrusting in front of children with a big neon sign saying it's not going to lick itself and the cops are like well now you know we can't get involved in this. And people are like, back to blue, baby. Okay, sure. Actual pride in this country and like its founding principles have less and less incentive to become cops and also military service members.
Starting point is 00:35:15 So like more and more, it's just going to be corrupt, power hungry people in the police force anyway. But aside from that, like like are we not gonna recognize the relationship between like accepting adult sex change surgeries uh that starting us on the path to accepting the the child sex change surgeries like that's where it starts well the right the interesting thing about that that i've been talking about is it's the one DSM-5 disorder where we decide to affirm, right? If you're body dysmorphic and you want to remove a hand, we say no. If you're anorexic, we say no. If you're morbidly obese, well, we're starting to say yes to that. I don't say we, but body
Starting point is 00:35:57 positivity. If you are cutting, we say no. If you have pica, where you're like eating pennies, we say no. But if you want to remove your junk, we say okay. And I have to wonder if it's because there are people who are thinking about like, well, you know, they want to have kids. So that works out like that's their mentality. But I just don't, I'm genuinely asking why it is that for all of the dysmorphic disorders and all of the general DSM-5 disorders disorders the one we affirm is the one that sterilizes people you know like when someone's anorexic we don't say go to the doctor and get your ozempic and and your pills we say you better start eating the doctor says start eating the top two issues
Starting point is 00:36:35 for the democrats right now are abortion and the transgender affirming care why why do we affirm this one you know like i was talking about this the other day. I tweeted it. When someone, they say like, oh, but if we don't give them the care, they're at high risk for suicide. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's called the 5150. If someone is presenting signs of self-harm, they get involuntarily committed so they can receive treatment to stop them from wanting to harm themselves. We try to save them from this.
Starting point is 00:37:02 If somebody is standing on a bridge about to climb over the railing, people run up and grab them and pull them up. They don't say, well, I better affirm their decision. Why don't you? But they're starting to with medical assistance and dying. Yeah, to accept assisted suicide and euthanasia. Suicide boots were a joke, man. I see people talking about accepting mental illnesses as well,
Starting point is 00:37:24 like as just a fact of your life that is not circumstantial. And, you know, if you're depressed and you, you know, don't want to get out of bed or brush your teeth, then, you know, that's a disability and you should get government money for it. Basically, like that's that's a condition you were born with. Did you see that viral TikTok where the the I think it's a woman. she's like, why do I have to work full time just to live? And it's like, seriously, that's their attitude. I'm like, entropy, I guess. Oxidization. Your body falls apart unless you do.
Starting point is 00:37:57 That's because office job work, like normal corporate America work is kind of soul sucking. So I get why she said it. I got to be honest. If, you know, I was about to enter the gates of eternity and they said, there's one where you're sitting in an office all day and one where you have to hunt and forage for survival. I'd go with the hunting and foraging. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:16 That's for me. Have you ever hunted? It's, I don't know. That's a lot. Well, I wouldn't. You never know. Yeah. It's, you don't know if you're going to eat.
Starting point is 00:38:24 That's the, you don't know if you're going to eat. That's that. You don't know if you're going to find food. Right. What I'm saying is like if I had to choose a life between farming, how about that? And office work. I choose farming. OK, that's that's. Oh, man. Like, have you come on?
Starting point is 00:38:36 We've all seen office space. The office work is pretty good. It's a fair point. These people are going into jobs and they're just like i sit here staring and doing nothing but this remedial garbage also overqualified and like knowing too much is torturous uh when like you're not really put to use in society you're given this like meaningless email job that you know is useless and isn't a building block to anything important yeah of course people are going to end up depressed and they're going to wonder,
Starting point is 00:39:06 why am I even working anymore? But they won't exercise. The Federal Reserve really wants people to work. This jobs economy where they're like, we need jobs, jobs, jobs. You dig the hole. Now you fill the hole back up. We're going to pay you both with our funny money
Starting point is 00:39:18 and you owe us interest on the money we gave you. Now go. And that's what they want. They have people doing menial, almost sometimes even useless, literally. I love, dig it, fill it up, dig it, fill it up, as long as to keep people are busy. I love this leftist meme where they're like,
Starting point is 00:39:32 did you know that in medieval times people didn't work? And they had, you know, what do they say? It was a communist utopia. Yeah, they say that the medieval peasants had like 50 days of vacation and only worked like four hours a day and stuff like that. By the way, because they were religious, they observed religious holidays. It's not vacation.
Starting point is 00:39:48 But it's not just that. It's like, you know, I loved on the story of my Occupy friend who went to work on a farm to reduce their carbon footprint. They lasted two weeks. And they said it was because they were working sunup to sundown. It's like you wake up, you work, then you work until it's dark and you go to bed. And it's like what happened with Chaz. They were like, this is too much work to have an autonomous zone or with occupy back to the
Starting point is 00:40:09 empire with occupy their inability to govern yeah they so with occupy wall street they tried doing the anarchist general counsel or whatever or there and but when it when it didn't work they were like okay we can't we can't figure out how to find unanimity. Unanimity? Unanimity. Yeah, something like that. But it is unanimous. In order for there to be a functioning anarchist society, everyone has to agree with minimal dissent.
Starting point is 00:40:36 That meant when they were trying to make a decision, you could have one or two dissenters, but it had to be like 95% of people in agreement. And when one bad idea got into that group it spread like fire or had the potential to and then all of a sudden you get 98 percent of the people are like bad idea now and but what ended up happening was you had a handful of people who knew for a fact if we don't get bins to store clothing they're getting there it's rot it's getting soggy wet it's growing mildew It's getting filthy and our food is spoiling. We need bins to seal this stuff from the rain. And they couldn't get it done because every time they would say we want to use funds to buy bins, they'd be like, no, plastics are bad for the environment.
Starting point is 00:41:16 No, it's got to be recycled. It's got to be fair trade. It's got to come from a mom and pop shop. And so they finally agreed, OK, you can get the bins so long as they're fair trade, recycled, not from a box store. And they couldn't find that. It was impossible. So what did they do? They just went and bought from Walmart or whatever, whatever they could find. And then just didn't tell anybody because the anarchist system just literally didn't work. You couldn't find it. And so when it came to that system being broken, a bunch of these facilitators were like, how about we create a new system called the Spokes Council? Well, the problem was it was a general assembly. Nobody would agree.
Starting point is 00:41:50 They were like, no, you are not changing the system because you can't get what you want. So then one day there was a funniest thing ever. They all say all in favor of the new Spokes Council system. And like two thirds of the people clap. And then the third are like blocking and saying no. And the guy goes, let me count. Yeah, we passed. It worked. And then it was just like no it didn't you're just saying that and people went along with it because like what are you supposed to do the guy talking said it happened
Starting point is 00:42:12 it happened the last night i was at occupy at that with the council we were working on they wanted to build a decentralized craigslist kind of thing where you could send items to people that need it like protesters and that was the the idea. Maybe a technological solution is the way to develop anarchy. I don't know whatever happened to it, though. Decentralized Craigslist. Yeah, yeah. I guess Craigslist itself is not technically decentralized on a bunch of servers, but the idea is you work with the seller.
Starting point is 00:42:38 You don't have to go through a central portal. So it was a bit redundant. It's like Craigslist for philanthropic causes. Yeah, it was supposed to be. By the way, the rants and raves section on Craigslist is top tier. Better than Twitter. Yeah. I love it.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Maybe we should make a show based on that. Craigslist? Just reading Craigslist rants. You ever read like the Miss Connections? Yeah. Me and my friends used to make fake ones. Saw you at the studio, but you were deep in the computer. We had one where it was like, I see you all the time.
Starting point is 00:43:07 I saw you at work. I don't think you noticed me. And then like it increasingly got darker and darker where it was like, I remember seeing you walk home. You were so beautiful. I don't know if you've noticed me, but I want to give you my number. I was, you know, standing outside your house. I looked through your window, things like that.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Just really funny. But actually, it sounds like a really good idea. We should write that down. Like on uh craigslist rants you're actually writing it down yeah let's let's jump to this story this one's a good one so we have this uh fact check from wthr viral video of biden saying he's reinstating the draft is a deep fake in the video president joe biden appears to say he's reinstating the draft so the U.S. can help defend Ukraine against Russian forces. The video is a deep fake. I love that this was fact checked because it was made by Turning Point. It was on Jack Posobiec's show. And he outright says that it's not a real, like he explains, we are showing
Starting point is 00:44:00 you of what is to come. And it's like like it's meant to be provocative and then the media is like uh-oh people might think this is real all right well here's why i think this is worth talking about election season's coming up we are going to see deep fakes and they are going to improve at the speed of maximum economic investment and they're going to be hilarious yeah but some of them are going to be scary but yeah hilarious too like the one of joe biden and trump playing overwatch was one of the funniest they keep making them there's one with the um joe rogan and jordan peterson and then elon comes in he's like you sons of bitches i can't i can't fight the boss the overwatch one was just too good yeah no but the overwatch one was good he was like jesus christ i come in here
Starting point is 00:44:42 try to get a quick cue and it's Bidenator and Trump's saying it. But no, what I think we're going to see is how much money do they invest in presidential elections? It's got to be what? Billions? Billions. I think Obama was a billion. So now imagine how much money is going to be on both sides for an election, especially
Starting point is 00:45:02 with how crazy things are getting in this country. And they are going to be on both sides for an election, especially with how crazy things are getting in this country. And they are going to be investing. People are going to invest tens of millions into advancing deepfake technology. I guarantee it right now. Some political person, I don't care what political party saw this. And they said, if we can make this impeccable, we will never lose another election again. And so they're meeting right now with deepfake companies saying, and I bet a lot of it is totally like seemingly on the level. Some guy who's got nefarious intentions goes to an AI company and says, hey, I want to invest a, you know, a billion dollars into the development of the technology. And they go, wow, that's really great. Thank you for the funding. And what they intend to do with it is make realistic videos that are indistinguishable.
Starting point is 00:45:44 And so my fear is not that you will see a video go viral of Joe Biden reinstating the draft. Why? Well, people are going to be like, get out of here. He never did. It's a deepfake. But what they'll do is you'll have a real video of Donald Trump saying we should condemn them totally, referring to white supremacists and neo-Nazis. And what they'll do is they'll make an impeccable deepfake replica where he should says, and some of them should be condemned totally, a very minor difference, but a drastic change in the context. And then you run it on CNN. And then if they get caught, they're just like, we didn't know. And not even, it's not even that. They're going to say, that's the video. And then Trump's going
Starting point is 00:46:21 to sue and say, that is not what was said. Here's the actual report. And's gonna sue and say that is not what was said here's the actual report and you're gonna say look there's 12 different videos all seemingly of the exact same thing we don't know which one's the real one because everybody knows trump gave the speech everybody know knows trump says something about condemning nazis but the only difference is they should be and some of them should be it's like a weapon it's like a strike first kind of thing like yep the ethics of striking first is, you know, beyond me. I don't know. What's going to happen is Democrats will share the video of Trump going. And I'm not talking about the white nationalists because some of them should be condemned totally.
Starting point is 00:46:55 And they're going to go. He said some of them like he's implying there may be some good ones there and they're all going to share it. And it's going to infect that bubble. And then you're going to get the right being like, no, no, he said they should be. He's talking about all of them. And there's going to be two different versions of one news event existing for both different political factions. So it's going to be no different than it is now. I mean, that's very different.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Right now. They're listening to the same thing and having a conversation. Yes, but you can still. So I was at a family holiday event and I was talking about how China was potentially getting access to the DNA from COVID tests. And, you know, one individual was like, what? Get out of here. That's BS. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:47:37 You can't say that. And I just pulled up my phone, pulled up NPR reporting it. I handed to him. They read it. They went, oh, wow, I didn't know that. And I'm like, you're sitting here thinking I'm wrong about this. I was just citing NPR of all sources. What happens when they go, no, and they pull up a video and they show you
Starting point is 00:47:50 the video and you go, that's not a real video. They'll say you're a conspiracy theorist and you're lying. I have the video. So what's the best way to authenticate those though? Impossible. De-fakes? We were talking about that today in one of our development meetings. I don't know. I think it's going to have to be either the person verifies the video themselves,
Starting point is 00:48:07 and if it's a video of you that you don't verify, then there's no verification. I think it's going to be a lot easier to verify the real ones rather than sniffing out all the fake ones. But then people like Project Veritas will try and catch someone, and they'll be like, no, that wasn't a real video. So you've got to be like, at some point. The other idea is to build like a headset or some sort of tech that you can use that can see that it's a deepfake somehow no they can tell if it's ai you got you got you got to understand the the full sphere of what this what this means
Starting point is 00:48:34 a video will come out of say a guy at pfizer saying something ridiculous like we're mutating the virus or you know who knows what yeah and then what will happen is a Veritas like organization will say, here's a video of the guy saying they're mutating the virus. What they'll then do is they will make using that video another deep fake and say, ah, yes, but here's the part they cut out. And then all of a sudden you'll see another video where the guy goes, could you imagine if like someone from these companies had something as crazy as we're mutating these viruses so that we can make more money that would be insane and then everyone will go oh veritas cut the context out he was talking about how crazy it
Starting point is 00:49:15 would have been if someone did say no he didn't actually say it wow that proves veritas is lying you see the point i could see that in other cases in a case like veritas they they i mean they have all the footage yeah but how do you prove a negative if an organization to defend itself deep fakes your video you can't prove the video doesn't exist you can only prove a video does exist so you'll get a video of trump saying something like you know we're going to build a big beautiful wall and then the left will you'll get a combination of offensive and defensive deep fakes. The left will make a video where Trump is like saying something somewhat offensive to add context, making it seem like he's racist. And then to defend against it, the Republicans will add another bit where Trump is saying, can you believe what so-and-so said?
Starting point is 00:50:00 He said this, and they'll just keep trying to change the context with deep fakes. Think about what happens if you, you get filmed and someone leaks audio of you saying something he said this and they'll just keep trying to change the context with deep fakes think about what happens if you you get filmed and someone leaks audio of you saying something offensive you can be a lot you can say hey that's out of context that i wasn't actually saying probably wasn't so if ian came on the show and said i don't like buttered popcorn and that clip went viral people would be like wow he doesn't like buttered popcorn. If Ian said, no, no, no, that's bad, he would just make a deepfake of him saying, I would never say something like,
Starting point is 00:50:30 I don't like buttered popcorn. And that inverts the context. And that's what you can do with deepfakes too. It's going to be wild, man. A billion dollars per campaign plus, and how much of that money can get invested in making stuff like this? Remember the meme wars in 2015, 16? Ramp it up, baby,
Starting point is 00:50:46 because you're going to get a combination of, you're going to get subliminal, liminal, and superliminal deepfakes. Superliminal deepfakes are going to be someone being like, and here's a new meme of Joe Biden singing the chicken song. And it'll just be Joe Biden. It'll be silly.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Then you'll get stuff that are liminal. I'm doing air quotes, a Simpsons joke, that are more like what Jack Posobiec did, where it's some people might get confused by it but he says what he's doing and then the subliminal is when they just leak stuff and then don't say anything about it and people fall for it they should do one of fetterman i mean that'd be cool but it would just be dead yeah how would you he's not how would you know if he if they released a deep fake of fetterman right now saying look here's your proof of life exactly and then what happens when get this john hodgkinson runs for senate and everyone sees videos of him staying at the podium cheering
Starting point is 00:51:38 everybody sees interviews with him talking about his policies and there is no john hodgkinson it's a ai deep fake character that appears in the media that appears on youtube that does this campaigning and you'll see people in youtube they're cheering for him he'll have commercials where he says vote for me because i believe in making america great again and then everyone's like i'm gonna vote for this guy and he's not real i think you made a good point that if if fetterman had a deep fake uh because when when they deep fake biden it's obvious it's a deepfake a lot of times because you can't hear the imperfections. Like you can't hear the degraded quality in his brain. And a lot of times when people are singing with songs, if the machine builds it, you can kind of tell it's like robotically perfect.
Starting point is 00:52:22 And so there's this imperfective quality to human behavior that possibly cannot be captured by a computer. If we could somehow perceive that. In certain contexts, I at least agree with that. I think it will be, though. And that's what's scary is I feel like the technology is evolving a lot quicker than we are. I feel like we're pretty dumb compared to what we've created. And that's where a lot of this chaos is coming from because we are not equipped or evolved to live in the world we created.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Those videos of like Gen Zers being like, why do I have to have a job? They are going to be the first in line to go into the pod. They're going to say, you know, you're right about this. You shouldn't have to. Step into pod where we will hook feeding tubes
Starting point is 00:53:03 right into your gullet and then put the vr helmet on and you'll live in digital world where you can be whatever you want i thought you meant the suicide booth well that too they created that mentality by making it so miserable to live and survive for these kids i mean i do gen z gets a bad rap for being so nonchalant about it but wouldn't you you're never gonna own anything most of them are not gonna own houses or cars or anything i don't really blame them they've been lied to about most things um and especially like the gender stuff like think about being a a vae them on hormones working at starbucks and they're like 20 mobile orders like i wouldn't
Starting point is 00:53:44 and then you have like social anxiety disorder and stuff and like 20 mobile orders. Like I wouldn't and then you have like social anxiety disorder and stuff. They all have disorders. I mean, it's just like it's not an enviable position. It's boring.
Starting point is 00:53:56 I agree with that. But like you talk about people coming back from the jungle after losing a leg. Like I don't see combat vets complaining and bitching
Starting point is 00:54:04 about how hard life is. Adrienne Curry says, send them to Ukraine. I agree. Send all the TikTokers to Ukraine. Any one of these people who wants to wave Ukrainian flag and complain about what's going on, I say we send them right over. It's hard. I do agree that life has become treacherously dull for people,
Starting point is 00:54:23 especially being lied to about the military-industrial complex and then realizing you're part of the empire is like, what the fuck am I doing? I mean, the reason they wouldn't go to Ukraine is because they're like languishing the fact that they know they're useless. Like that's that's they know that they that they would instantly die in a situation. And that's like demoralizing. Even when you're how much you want to bet. Windsor, that story of you will live in the pod you will eat the bugs you will own nothing and you will be happy they're probably going please it can't come soon enough they are they are i will tell you gen z has
Starting point is 00:54:55 that attitude you know i i see a lot of the dialogue especially when they're talking about you know if there was an apocalypse they are saying wow you guys will to live is incredible i just let i'd let it all happen so i think these kids are severely depressed i think they don't really have much purpose because we've hyper fixated on individualism in this narcissistic society so these kids are just focusing on only themselves and they have a meaningless life because they have no other purpose except themselves so So once we took away that community. Not even themselves. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Yeah. Well, the feature's sounding pretty good, huh? I imagine kids are like the ultimate purpose. Because I've been gaming a lot and just keep thinking like, what is the freaking purpose of life? I keep rinsing and repeating the same thing. There's no goal. There's no like quest to finish. There's no experience gained.
Starting point is 00:55:43 I don't get the ding when I do the thing. It's just nonstop. It keeps happening. The indomitable human spirit and like the drive to produce the next generation. To do what though? Eat more candy bars and watch more TV? Like what? Go to space.
Starting point is 00:55:57 That's what I'm going through. And I think having children is a big part. I haven't done it yet. Go to space. Go to Mars. I'd go to Mars right now. Keep pioneering. Maybe it's different for everybody.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Explorations for some people. See, my dreams for the future cannot be accomplished in a single lifetime. You know, I am not driven by having a fancy car or an infinity pool. I'm driven at the thought of a spaceship traveling the galaxy with a bunch of people on it being like, you know, we're 17 light years away, sir. Engage warp. You know, that sounds pretty awesome. What are you going to find up there? It's just blackness. Being like, you know, we're 17 light years away, sir. Engage warp. You know, that sounds pretty awesome to me.
Starting point is 00:56:25 What are you going to find up there? It's just blackness. You know, maybe rocks. People get bored of that, too. Like, I've tripped my balls off and seen the craziest stuff. And, like, experienced the most, I mean, bending reality. And it's still just like, now what? Like, even while I'm tripping, I'm like, okay, the bug is dancing on my arm.
Starting point is 00:56:46 What is this? All things will die. And I'm like crying. Relationships are the only thing that really matters. This doesn't sound like a good time, Ian. Traveling to space doesn't matter. Nothing technically matters. But for me, it's all about negative entropy.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Things matter. Just watch helping other people. What matters is creating more organization, is organizing free energy into complex systems. That's it. I feel really good whenever I feed Bucko and he's happy. Like the cat that I've been taking care of. Tim, would you go to Mars if Elon told you you can get on a spaceship right now and go? No.
Starting point is 00:57:18 You wouldn't? Nope. You just said you wanted to go on a spaceship. I didn't say I wanted to go on a spaceship. I said I wanted humans to go on a spaceship. Well, it's cringy when they shoot themselves up into space and then just come back down like you didn't really do anything just sat there mars right now looking at spaceships getting shut up and you're like it's a one-way trip if you go to if you go to mars you're staying
Starting point is 00:57:37 on mars for the rest of your life would you go orbit mars and then come back i'd go to probably not it's like an eight-week journey or something. Humans don't understand how much of their life is nothing but humans. I mean, it's like you've got to remind them. Go out into the middle of nowhere and see how much anything matters. You'll care about your survival, but you will start begging for humans. Well, that's why people are so sad. We took away that community, and people think that they have it in social media. But really, we've been
Starting point is 00:58:05 so divided and our neighbors have been demonized and everyone's, your neighbor is going to kill you if they take off the mask. It's just very, we lost that community a long time ago. This is why solitary confinement is torture. Yeah. I've noticed that. Literally, it's caused by torture. With my friends, air quotes on the internet, I have 1,800
Starting point is 00:58:21 friends on Facebook. How many friends do I actually have in life? 13? It's a false sense of community that we get on social media. Yeah. Family is like the major component. I think when you get older, you care a lot less about, when you're in school and you have a peer group,
Starting point is 00:58:38 you're forced to be around them. You are told by the system, like, here, you're doing this thing. It's either school or work. And so you have friends because of this this confined space but when humans are set off to be on their own they focus on family which is moving down instead of you know your peer group is is to your left and right your family is the generation below you you'll care a lot more about that and you'll strive for a lot more for that than you would just friends so as you get older family is the is the human component that people need that's why you were just saying man like you don't get the dopamine hit if you had a kid you would and that's why it's crazy you get that chelsea handler video where she's like i
Starting point is 00:59:13 don't have kids so i get to wake up do drugs and masturbate and i was like that sounds like what a 16 year old would say lady it's not just that but it's her implication that having children is humiliating yeah so weird yeah, and that living for pleasure is the only way that a woman can reach her potential. I mean, I'm sure you, Ashley, having become a mother, understand that it's very demeaning when that message is constantly pushed.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Oh, absolutely. You're free. That's the best way you can live, is not having children. Not my kid is the best thing that ever happened to me. But I also understand that it's getting tougher to have families. You don't have that village anymore to help raise kids. Yeah, it takes a village.
Starting point is 00:59:53 And so a lot of these things, too, seem so silly that are in the news and stuff because you have people who can't raise families the way that we're supposed to. It's not ideal circumstances to have families, and I'm fortunate enough that I can provide, but a lot of people can't. And I understand that. They don't have that village. They don't have the community.
Starting point is 01:00:11 They don't have the economic resources. So it's kind of twofold, where you want to promote family values and tell everyone to have families, and that's your purpose, but it's also very hard for people to do that now. There are a bunch of people trying to take a kid away from you as well.
Starting point is 01:00:25 I see both sides. Yeah, exactly. You send them off to school. You send your son to school and you come back with a daughter. It's daycare. It's school. It's gender transition. That word care.
Starting point is 01:00:35 I don't like that word care, man. Like what? What's caring about? Daycare? Like are they really being cared for? They just call it care. Oh, yeah. Gender affirming care.
Starting point is 01:00:42 The neglect and the abuse in those places mind-blowing like i yeah and also elder abuse is getting worse the most vulnerable people in our society are being abused because we don't take care of our community yeah exactly have you been able to find the tribe or yeah and i'm fortunate enough to have a good support system but i think that's where conservatives kind of fall short is that you know you these family values, but they're not really pushing any legislation or policies or changes to make it easier to have families and for families to survive. So I do think that Republicans tend to play on the defense instead of offense, and they're not making pro-family policies. They're not making it easier for people to find that purpose. I found with all the cool people I'm meeting doing this show that I haven't
Starting point is 01:01:30 really made any friends out of it. Like Jack Posobiec. I love you, Jack. I like Jack. He's cool. He's like, if me and him hung out, we'd be friends, but I don't see him. And like, I'm realizing the community, like the community part of it is missing for me. That's what I haven't been doing lately. It's like, I barely talk to you, dude. I see you. This is your fault. Is this a therapy session? Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Everybody comes here and they're like, I hung out at Tim Kass' castle for like three days. I never saw you in once. And like, we're all downstairs. We had a Super Bowl party, bro. A lot just said he didn't see you for three days. Yeah, a lot. I love you. We had a Super Bowl party.
Starting point is 01:02:01 You're so elusive, Ian. We miss you. I started making internet videos in 2006 and I was like, I can be friends with everybody. I'm going to do what Jesus would have done if he had this tech. And then I got burnt out. I was like, I can't. I started to become friends with people that were depressed and then I would start to get depressed. And I was like,
Starting point is 01:02:15 I can't be around other people because they're freaking me out. Because you use the tech, right? Is that not why? It was part of it. I was meeting people from all over earth random people that i had nothing in common with that i was taking in their behaviors and and idiosyncrasies and values and things before i even knew who they were and i would get like demons i mean i'm they're they're like the darkness and humanity would start to seep into
Starting point is 01:02:38 me and i'm drug induced lots of weed that's probably part of it too is i couldn't control myself my my emotions because i was so open from my neurons all going at once here's what we're gonna do here's what we're gonna do in we're we're launching that show poker with the boys all right and it's it's it's meant to just be like a boys show hang out it'll be girls there too it's not just boys but like the general idea is to hang out with your friends style podcast where people are smack talking ribbon on each other probably talk whatever is in current news but it won't be a news show like this and you just got to come to it what another problem i'm having maybe people identify with this is i i don't like small talk i just rather be silent
Starting point is 01:03:15 and sit in silence with someone which is very awkward it depends what you mean by small talk i think like small talk is part of recognizing the the dignity of the person in front of you. You know, niceties are also kindness. So making him feel welcome, hospitality. Just more like, just more understanding. I feel like people who say I hate small talk are actually not like, not you, Ian. But like they like are the people who call themselves sapiosexuals and stuff. Like you're not as deep as you think.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Like small talk is deep. Like you're recognizing the person across from you. Elevate the conversation if that's your issue, Ian. If someone's like, so what did you do yesterday? And you're like, I had lentil soup. And like, oh, yeah, how was that? Go. Let's talk about philosophy and quantum physics.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Have you ever read about string theory? Just it's your choice. It's somewhat odd but when people it'd be hilarious i think i'll try it i'll try it and like everyone says this but you like talking to you is uh an intense experience because like no one pays that close attention to me like anyone talking to you just feels like whoa um you're like actually looking me in the eye and listening to what i'm saying and responding accordingly like that's that's a rare experience in human conversation
Starting point is 01:04:29 and it's a good thing do you think it's becoming more common no i think people are people are disassociating from each other yeah and they're they're spending more times in virtual spaces and virtual reality and video games and things like that they're not having kids i gotta i gotta tell you there there, there's professional athletes and musicians that I'm a huge fan of and I'm like, they got no kids. But look, I'm going to be 37 in a week. I don't got any kids either.
Starting point is 01:04:53 That's kind of crazy to me. And so, you know, private business, but there's an intention for me to have a family. But there are a lot of people I see who are now in their 50s that I grew up watching and looking up to to a certain degree, have no families at all. And I'm like, like that's it that's the end of their their
Starting point is 01:05:08 genetic influence their their their legacy ends with them now there are a lot of people who have kids don't get me wrong a lot of people have kids but there are just some rock stars and pro athletes and i'm just like man they just didn't have any families that kind of bums me out because it means like the the the life lessons and the genetics, the combination of these things that made them who they were, such great people that had a tremendous positive impact on the world, gone. Yeah. With them, gone.
Starting point is 01:05:35 And I'm not saying their kids are going to grow up to become famous or anything. They might, you know, be, you know, dickheads or something. Why is what I'm interested in? Why do we have so many people making choices that really are against our biological nature? Most people, given the ideal circumstances, I think would have children and families. So why are there so many people?
Starting point is 01:05:55 My original thought was, I got really red-pilled in 06, 07, and I felt pretty alone. But I was like, okay, I'm going to have to make a self-sacrifice. I'm going to have to let my body be destroyed in order to speak up against the military industrial complex they're not gonna have it jesus got killed for it i'll probably get killed for it that was my roll in the dice i'm
Starting point is 01:06:12 like i don't have kids because i don't want to leave them fatherless and that that was kind of set me on the last 15 years but i'm at the same i don't want to leave them fatherless but i i'm not going to stop talking i we refuse to back down. And maybe, I don't know. You know when people say, like, I don't want to bring a kid into this world. Like, the world is just such a scary place and it's only getting worse. Like, how could I subject someone to grow up in a world like this? And, like, yeah, there are unique factors to, like, why living today is different maybe worse in a lot of ways but um i think people are just afraid of uh you know being the person with the biggest
Starting point is 01:06:53 impact on a on an impressionable person like i think it's they're afraid of passing down their own mediocrity i think it's also just a really scary world to raise a kid in. Like we're fighting to not have men pole dancing in front of children. Sure, sure. But we had a Cold War with like nuclear weapons in Cuba. This has always been a harsh world. It was harsh in a different way. I mean, they are really trying to take our children from us.
Starting point is 01:07:23 I mean, they are stealing the innocence of our children. Same thing with the Vietnam War. Yeah. I mean mean communism was spreading like crazy ugly we we've uh we've talked about that whatever podcast quite a bit uh which they've had they have these clips going viral and there's one love that guy what's his name chase chase was the second guy based yeah that video where he's like you know i don't want to bang a dude or whatever but there's one where there's a woman saying she doesn't like talking stages i saw that one she's referring to like the wait three days before calling kind of thing is that what she's talking about no a lot of people were giving her grief because she wasn't very articulate but i think what she was saying was actually kind of she's upset that gen z really doesn't have traditional dating periods
Starting point is 01:08:06 it's you're just kind of hooking up there's no definition to anything so in a way she really was yearning for that hey we maybe you should go back to like traditional dating that's what i was saying she wasn't able to articulate it maybe it took her 16 seconds to articulate that one sentence but and and by the way it must be like kind of a purgatory to have that stunted level of uh english you know but yeah i did understand her point i think it's also hard for her and like other gen z people to say like hey people are only hooking up with me now nobody actually wants to she genuinely doesn't understand all genuinely doesn't understand why people are giving her bad faith advice. I'm going to play this video.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Because they're bad faith people. I don't think the audience will be served at all by hearing this, but I'll play it for you anyway. For reference. I think the biggest thing that annoys me in the whole dating world is fucking talking stages.
Starting point is 01:08:58 That shit's so annoying. And just the inconsistency in them. I literally hate that so much. But I think that's my biggest thing. What specifically? Just the fact of just like, you like... I don't know how to word this.
Starting point is 01:09:15 She knows she doesn't know how to word it. I can't do it. I can't listen anymore. I shut it off the first time I tried to, but I haven't since listened to it. They say she's speaking hot girl language. So is she saying that in the early days when you're texting back and forth for like and then it turns into a week of texting and then two weeks so then she she goes on to say like no one wants to commit or be in a traditional like
Starting point is 01:09:34 dating right these weird talking stages and they're talking stages mean like the hookup phase and you're seeing someone but she's also talking about 21 year old dudes who go to college in california like here's here's what james lindsey said she's crying for about 21-year-old dudes who go to college in California. Here's what James Lindsay said. She's crying for help because of the damage online dating and hookup culture have wrought, speaking vaguely and badly about her tacit knowledge of a miserable... You want to pull that up? Speaking... Let me start over.
Starting point is 01:09:59 She's crying for help because of the damage online dating and hookup culture have wrought, speaking vaguely and badly about her tacit knowledge of a miserable circumstance without the vocabulary to articulate it this is sad yeah what i got you can see i even i retweeted it too james lindsay's smart fella what i got from it is she's basically like she wants a real relationship with somebody yeah and that doesn't exist and uh it's feminism's fault yeah because basically the sexual liberation thing told men you have to you there's nothing you have to do anymore there's no responsibility there's no resources there's no hard work ladies just going to give it up so what will you end up with a bunch of little boys who sit around playing
Starting point is 01:10:34 video games all day and don't have to provide anything women who don't want families so you so the guy doesn't have to provide anything and there's no strings attached and hooking up and now you have women and i'm not saying every woman, I'm not saying most women, at least in this case, one woman who is like, this sucks. But it's not just, I feel like this is a majority of the Gen Z girls and whatever they're calling that other generation. They really fell prey to this hookup culture. And I think a lot of them, and you see it here in her, even though she though she's not saying well they're understanding that it's not making them happy and that's why i feel if we had someone that wasn't you know andrew tate's great right the way he articulates this to young men hopefully he's innocent but he's not innocent he's not been charged yeah well you know you want to preface it
Starting point is 01:11:22 but you know he does see these good things but we need Andrew Tate has not been charged with any crimes yes so it's like he's not even there's nothing to be innocent of they just locked him up Romanian justice
Starting point is 01:11:31 that's my little disclaimer but I like what he has to say but I think there needs to be a version of that that is palatable for women that's saying the same thing but palatable for women because they feel the same way
Starting point is 01:11:43 but the way that it's put for them is just awful i don't know the only way to to beat it is to not participate in it like the only way to get rid of hookup culture is to just stop hooking up with people and i'm sorry but most of the girls on this podcast on this podcast whatever are hooking up with people they're making the problem worse and they're not willing to take accountability i think that's why a lot of people are like angry when they see this clip because they're like i mean i don't know this about this girl individually but like the archetype uh you know she is contributing to her own problem and also andrew tate is a participant in hookup culture so it doesn't really resonate when i hear him talking about the negative effects he's not like people say he's kind of like what do
Starting point is 01:12:29 they call him uh kickbox my tie jordan peterson well yeah but isn't jordan peterson more traditionalist and like clean your room have a family with kids andrew tate is like get all the ladies you know yeah i guess technically well technically andrew tate is more traditional than jordan peterson because tate brings it back to a carnal, more primitive state. Well, Peterson says don't lie, and Andrew Tate says I lied for money. I had women pretending to be talking to guys while I had dudes doing the typing. We made tons of money. We ran the game.
Starting point is 01:12:58 He's just a liar and proud about it. So they are not on the same level in any way. I agree with you that being alone is less worse than being with the wrong person so like these people doing hookup culture maybe they'd be better off if they were alone but those being alone and being in the wrong relationship are like d minus or worse the alternative isn't even being alone it's just like dating in a in a normal way that doesn't immediately like for these women give strange men access to your body. You know what I think it is?
Starting point is 01:13:27 Preferable for both sides. I think it's a cultural deficit in that we created all of this media, iconography, TV shows about love at first sight and about a guy meeting a girl and they just love each other or Hallmark movies where the woman's in a relationship with a guy, but he's they just love each other or hallmark movies where you know the woman's in a relationship with the guy but he's snooty and she goes back to her hometown and
Starting point is 01:13:48 there's the old you know football player and you know the lumberjack the lumberjack and he's and he's he's a stand-up honorable guy and in reality relationships are built together you you you you meet each other you get along you say okay you start building things together and you build up that emotional bond over a long period of time. It's also like young people seem to think that it's like you meet someone and it's like they're the one. No. I've met them.
Starting point is 01:14:08 If you are in your best place and you meet someone in their best place, then you will realize together you're something, but they're not going to make you better. You got to be up there
Starting point is 01:14:17 so that they can come up to meet you. I made that mistake for a long time thinking she was going to fix me. So what's advice you guys would give to young guys?
Starting point is 01:14:24 Because I think a lot of guys are afraid of rejection sucks. And getting rejected in public, if that gets blasted out on the internet, not only you might even look like a predator. Kids are probably, guys are probably afraid of that. So what advice? Girls also need to learn to reject guys in a way that's gracious and not ruthless.
Starting point is 01:14:41 That's a problem. What would be, that's cool. What would be a good like advice for young guys that want to pursue a relationship with a girl in this modern technology era that's a very loaded question i mean i think it depends what they want you know if you're a young man looking for a more traditional relationship go to church yeah yeah i mean that's really a lot of people say that but it's like okay you're gonna go up to someone in church and be like hi like that wouldn't be very trad
Starting point is 01:15:11 make some people feel weird they say the supermarket i didn't mean to interrupt you no you're fine but i i just feel like they have to they have to live you know you have to walk the walk and you can't be calling for traditional lifestyles if you yourself are involved in hookup culture and things like that you know if that's what you want really tim's not wrong you're gonna find that in church or a supermarket that's the other thing no for real they say you know guys will go to a bar to pick up chicks and it's just like i guess that makes sense for a guy but for a for a woman it doesn't make sense because you're gonna get a guy who's not looking for any kind of real relationship that that's what this young woman is basically saying
Starting point is 01:15:47 she comes to a point in the video where she says like this is not going to lead to a real relationship and then there's another video going viral of a japanese woman who was surprised when she met this guy's family and she was like so this guy i've been seeing him we went on five dates he introduces me to his family and i'm thinking wow, this is a really big deal. Like we're hitting it off. And then when she inquires, he's like, no, no, no, we're just friends. And she was like, what? Like that doesn't exist where she's from.
Starting point is 01:16:13 When a guy and a girl hang out several times, they're dating. When they introduce their families to each other, it's very serious. In America, look, that's the other thing about feminism. I don't know if Japan has their shit together either. Well, sure. Dating. Oh, yeah, absolutely. do look that's the other thing about feminism all right i don't know if japan has their shit together either well sure dating oh yeah absolutely they have the hikikomori where the guy yeah hikikomori the guys lock themselves in their rooms and play video games all day and never come out even when their friends are like outside there's in their room playing video games and no one ever sees them and then uh but that's japan uh i forgot what i was gonna say i was gonna say something
Starting point is 01:16:42 about oh yeah feminism i know that the that the woke leftists are going to be like, you know, Tim Pool blames feminism incel, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, look, man I don't care about women running for president. I know we end up like, I think actually, let me pause. What's your stance in the 19th Amendment, Ashley? Repeal? I think there
Starting point is 01:17:00 have been a plethora of problems that have happened. There you go. We have women on this show and they're like, repeal the 19th. And it's always the guys who are like, well, I don't know. I'm like, if the ladies vote for it. But anyway, I don't care about that stuff. Feminism wants to see women as CEOs. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:17:15 Run a company. Do whatever you want. I can choose to go to business, do business with whoever I want. You can run a company if you start a company. But in terms of the sexual liberation stuff, it's not really liberation. It's stripped women of their leverage in relationships women women were told you can go around and sleep with whoever you want and the guys were like yes i love that you're pointing that out about leverage because
Starting point is 01:17:33 when they call men incels they're saying you can't get access to sex with women but like sex with women has become valueless now. Yeah. So where'd the leverage go? Is that even an insult anymore? Well, so the thing about insults is most of these guys, it's an internal problem.
Starting point is 01:17:51 It's never been easier for these guys to hook up. You go to a bar, buy some drinks, everybody gets, you know, has a good time, they're drunk,
Starting point is 01:17:57 they go party, and then before you know it, that's tough. That's risky in modern culture because you can get blasted out on the internet of putting your hands on someone's thigh or something.
Starting point is 01:18:05 I'm not saying to go touch women without consent. But they might think it's consensual and then they've taken a step too far. I think that's a big problem. There is a reason why bars have the lights turned low and there's a reason why you can buy it at Hot Topic or Spencer's or whatever it says beer, making ugly people attractive since 980. I've always thought that one of the cringiest things is the guy's like, can I kiss you now?
Starting point is 01:18:28 And you're like, oh, God, just go for it. You don't think that's sweet? I think that's sweet. You do think. So should the guy ask before he makes a move? I don't think it should be mandated, but I think it's sweet. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Absolutely they have to. See, women... Because everyone's mentally ill, but if we live in a sane society... Dude, that lady cop? Yeah. see see that women women because everyone's mentally young men in trouble if they don't do that that won't that lady cop yeah you guys okay so we were talking i should pull this up because i'm gonna i'm gonna this is actually perfect i don't even know how do i how do i look this story back i had it pulled up and i'm like gangbanging cop she was emotionally groomed guys yeah what's her what's her name uh what's her megan hall was that her
Starting point is 01:19:05 name let me try and find this one tennessee cop i don't know it is funny though because a lot of these feminist ideologies mostly benefit men all right take a look at this this this story went viral and i have no idea why about this tennessee cop megan hall she's now claiming she was sexually groomed and that she said no and they wouldn't take no for an answer or like one guy wouldn't or something like that. They colluded in their authority to systematically disarm her resistance and entrap her in degrading and abusive sexual relationships, exploiting her, felt trapped. So you want to talk about guys in the modern era.
Starting point is 01:19:41 If a dude is with a girl and the girl comes up to him and puts her hands on his shoulder and leans in for a kiss and kisses him he just assaulted her and if she wants and she says it they're in trouble this is a story that went viral for months about a woman who was banging a bunch of cops and just was as loose as loose can get and now she's claiming she was victimized and they wouldn't let her they wouldn't stop what did she say that it was one that i mean so she was fine with the other seven and not well she's saying she was groomed she was saying they they groomed her and you're an adult are you are you getting groomed really no i don't know an adult police officer i don't is now complaining about being groomed in all honesty you're supposed to be
Starting point is 01:20:25 the law enforcement of the land like turn those guys in what the hell's your grown adult professional with professional equals quote i did say no and he wouldn't take it for an answer okay so is this that sounds like one is this a story about this cop who was being abused this female cop and just didn't know what to do or is she a wild and crazy cop who is hooking up? Do we know? I don't know, but I'll tell you this. If you've got a young guy, even if he asks, she can just say he didn't,
Starting point is 01:20:54 and then he's going to jail. He's getting locked up. That's not a story. It is very scary. I have younger brothers. I have a son. It is scary for them dating now. Chappelle talked about this.
Starting point is 01:21:04 He did that joke where he had the guy sign a consent, he had pulled a consent form. And then he was just like, well, hold on there. He climbs off the woman. He's like, let me just,
Starting point is 01:21:12 you just fill that out initial here and sign here and just make sure everything's good. Cause that's where things were going. And the funny thing is that show was like early two thousands. And then it was the 2010s when we got mattress girl, this woman who begs a dude to hook up with her, reportedly, and he doesn't want to be with her. Finally, they hook up. Then he leaves and he's like, I don't want to be with you.
Starting point is 01:21:32 She gets mad about it and then carries her mattress around claiming he raped her, even though the messages show that she was begging him. So when Ian asks, should a guy ask, can I kiss you? Yeah, your best bet is meet a girl at church and have a real relationship and get married and all that stuff. Otherwise, you go to jail or something. But going to church to hook up. I'm joking. Going to church to hook up.
Starting point is 01:21:52 We're not, no. The confession booth. No one can see you. If I worship loud enough, she'll notice me. What I'm saying is meet a person in a real environment and have a real relationship. It's tough to do. A lot of it's like, what do they call it? Happenstance.
Starting point is 01:22:04 Like you walk by and you see her like that not anymore dude now we got that five hours of walking through new york as a woman if you even say howdy ma'am you're considered assault you're assaulting your cat calling what about that whole home depot thing they said to go what was that there's a to go to home depot and find a guy in home depot because the guy can actually fix stuff oh nice to meet a man if a woman wants to run into a married contractor oh i like to go where your values are i went to theater school and i met other actresses girls that i and that's how i got my first real serious girlfriend because i was pretty nerdy so look if you're a woman and you don't take advice me i'm some dude and you want to meet a guy
Starting point is 01:22:40 go to home depot and then just make sure there's no ring on the on the hand and then just you know say i'm trying to fix a door can you help me can i hire you just need so many diy projects don't lie to your way into a relationship but no like if you're at home depot for a real reason you gotta have a problem fixed you're gonna find a better quality guy oh they're so happy to help too every time i don't know what to do, I'm like, I'm just going to ask them how to do it. Can you reach that? They're so happy to help there. But not just that, like guys like solving problems and being helpful.
Starting point is 01:23:12 If a woman goes to a guy and says, look, I got to fix a door and I need somebody who can help me do it. You know, a guy might be like, that sounds great. I could totally help you with that. That'd be awesome. I'm here to help.
Starting point is 01:23:21 Do you think that dating apps should be deleted from people's phones or should they keep it? I think that and social media contributes to the problem of people always thinking there's something else out there. Well, you know, I could do better. And that's just comparative in general with the lives that we're living, but it absolutely contributes to it. I noticed that I was in a relationship and I kept Tinder on my phone and I would still find myself looking at it from time to time. Well, what if I need it? You know? It's that whole, there might be something else.
Starting point is 01:23:48 So this last relationship I'm in right now, I deleted all the apps right away. It was just I knew, like, getting into it. And there's a, you can always reinstall it. You know, it's not like it's gone forever. Let's make a fake dating app where it's like all of the people on it are bots. And they just, they say nice things to you. You know, there's like a conservative dating app now. I don't remember what it's called,
Starting point is 01:24:09 but like whatever would be the purpose of that. Oh, Right Stuff, Right Stuff. It's something like that. But like that just means you're gonna find hyper political people who are just obsessed with politics, which is not what you want either. There's Christian Mingle, right? That's like, that's been around for a long time.
Starting point is 01:24:23 There's J Date. That's more mainstream. J Date. I always part of me wanted to get a J Date. I'm gonnale, right? That's been around for a long time. There's J-Date. That's more mainstream. J-Date. I always part of me wanted to get a J-Date. I'm not even Jewish. It feels so dirty. Just like join a Facebook group of people who are interested in something. I never did.
Starting point is 01:24:35 It was like a fantasy kind of thing. Just like join a Facebook group. People are interested in things and then go to things, go to events. People need to talk to their neighbors and find local community. Oh, you meet people through people. That's a good way to do it. That's a great way to do it. That's how they used to.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Okay, so think about something you're interested in and then go to events of those things and meet people. The problem is when it comes to a lot of hobbies or crafts and stuff, it's dudes, it's not women. Ashley, you're right about arranged marriage. I just wanted to point that out. We need to bring that back. That was clutch. I mean, think about it. Think about the stereotype of the older woman
Starting point is 01:25:17 who is always trying to matchmake younger people. That doesn't exist anymore because she's bitter and single. She hates younger women. She doesn't want her to find love. Right? Okay. That archetype of the matchmaking woman in a village, you know, it doesn't exist anymore. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:33 My mom's very matchmake-y probably because she has a family and wants me to have a family. The problem with arranged marriage is that it's anti-meritocratic in that you might have a three-year-old boy and a three-year-old girl. And then they're like, our kids are going to get married when they're older. And then by 18, the male is like 100 pounds soaking wet, frail. They were rarely arranged at such a young age. But it's not forced. Arranged marriage is not forced marriage.
Starting point is 01:26:01 Then how could it be arranged at all? You're allowing the parents to judge the merits of the other person. Because they're older and more wise. So you're saying like when a woman is about to become an adult or whatever, the parents decide we found this guy for you, get married to him? The guy's parents are involved as well. If it's not forced, it's not arranged.
Starting point is 01:26:18 It's just like a mom suggesting a guy. Like, honey, you should marry the guy across the street. He's dreaming. No, I don't want to. And they're talking to the families and working it out. Love is about compromise anyway, you know. I feel like the obsession with, like, marrying for love as well is very hyper-individualistic. Yeah, there's a lot of different type of love. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:36 And it's kind of, you know, if you're like, I love this sandwich so much, like, what kind of love? I think love is also a choice and not a feeling in a lot of ways i think too many people equate it with a feeling that's what i was saying like people like i think our generation and younger are led to believe because of movies that you know you walk into a bar and there's like a beautiful woman and it's like my heart be still i'm in love and it's just like yeah and then you find out she's like a white supremacist and like you know like, whoa, I don't want to be like she's attractive, but not I'm not going there. You know, like you sound like this has happened to you. No, I just mean like you see a beautiful woman and it turns out she's just like messed up.
Starting point is 01:27:17 There could be like a pretty lady and you're like, wow, she's beautiful. And then she's like, the people from the moon have stolen my cheese. And you're like, OK, I'm getting out of here. Or, you know, I'm getting out of here. Or, you know, I don't know, maybe your guy was into that kind of crazy wild ride. Maybe she was just eating candies with Ian for a moment. I'm down to go to the moon, bro. You find someone that you have things in common with,
Starting point is 01:27:37 where you can have fun, you can get along, and you enjoy each other's company, and then over time you build a relationship together. Yeah, you said it was a choice. So, like, define that. I mean, you choose to love people. I think even your family and people they they don't always act in ways that are to will the good of another yeah yeah so the choice being like like you're letting you're accepting the downsides of the person yeah i mean as long as they're not abusive or toxic um All the crazy people just need to be with each other
Starting point is 01:28:05 and then leave all the same people alone. Yeah, there should be like a crazy people dating app. Oh, you mean all of them? For all the rejects. Yeah, Tinder is one of the worst too. What are your favorites? Like what are your top three dating apps? I don't really use them.
Starting point is 01:28:18 You never use them? I had Tinder, Bumble, and OkCupid. Did you ever use any of those? I was on OkCupid a long time ago. I got it at first because I was building minds and I was like, we were going to add a Tinder thing into the thing. So me and Bill were like, hey, market research. Let's get it. And it was so
Starting point is 01:28:33 addictive. I'd spend hours just like swiping. I'm like, this is the most superficial stuff I've ever done in my life. I'm judging each individual human woman. It's like a little game. We don't even need it anymore. With all the data we've collected an ai can just be like boom this is your match you're done the ai i'm not even kidding oh okay i'm not even kidding marriage yes ai arranged marriage i guarantee i guarantee you this i would bet a large sum of money that if you took all the data from all
Starting point is 01:28:59 the dating apps and then plugged in the data to like an AI, the AI could find your match instantly. That's a black mirror. And then you'd be like, because it knows where you're from, it knows how old you are, it knows how much you weigh. You could do like one of those. What's your browser history?
Starting point is 01:29:17 I mean, if you want to put that in. But it can't account for your personality. Yes, it can because OkCupid does that thing where it asks you all the questions. It knows when you poop, so it can like be like, oh, they both poop around does that thing where it asks you all the questions. It knows when you poop so it can be like, oh, they both poop around the same time of day. Facebook could do it.
Starting point is 01:29:29 Facebook, check it out. That's what it was supposed to be. Facebook would understand things about you in weird ways. Like, you don't need to tell Facebook you're a conservative. Facebook can see your post where you say MAGA 2024. You don't need to tell Facebook that you enjoy peanut butter and jelly sandwiches because
Starting point is 01:29:48 you once posted an image of a blue circle. And it seems completely unrelated. But there will be weird things like that where statistically people who like peanut butter and jelly for some reason are more likely to post blue circles than red squares. And we don't notice those things. But the ai will because it's looking at hundreds of millions of internet interactions and then finding statistical correlations so they already do that there's um you know if you buy turkey bacon you're more likely
Starting point is 01:30:15 to vote democrat and these political parties already use different data like that it's really scary the amount of data have you ever looked at your google profile turkey bacon yes yeah or if you drive a subaru you're more likely to vote democrat or be a lesbian you know but that's obvious that's like oh we get it somebody who likes turkey bacon is more likely to be left leaning but what about something like you you uh go to mcdonald's at seven in the morning oh you're more likely to get oil changes in the third of the month at 7 p.m like weird things that we can't see it will find those correlations and tell you. That means in dating apps,
Starting point is 01:30:46 if it took your social media profile, all of your data, we could easily at this point make an AI that would be like, here's your perfect match. I think we're getting it. In terms of attractiveness, in terms of location, in terms of personality,
Starting point is 01:30:58 the AI would break it all down and be like, based on the people you've messaged, based on the people she's messaged, based on what you like and don't like, the times you go to the bathroom and the food you eat, you should get married. I feel like TikTok could do it too. I mean, the TikTok algorithm is insane. So sometimes it's scary how hyper fixated it is on your life and your interests and
Starting point is 01:31:18 everything like that. So I think that could come very soon. How much of a relationship do you think is about shared interests? Like how important? I think it depends on the interest. I think it's more important to have shared values rather than interests. I think interests are temporary and could be switched out and changed. And I'm not interested in the same, you know, some of the same things that I was years ago.
Starting point is 01:31:42 But I think values is more important. Yeah, I'd agree because it's been like sometimes it's fun to you know be dating somebody and then they have a different interest you don't always want to do just the things that you know you want to be exposed to new things you don't want to just have exactly the same interest to somebody else because like what more is there to talk about after a certain point you've already seen all that so you've already done all that stuff it's's like, yeah. It's very surface level, yeah. Right, I agree. Shared values being like morals, ethics kind of thing. Yes, definitely. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:32:10 I mean, especially I used to tell people that all the time when they'd ask, oh, should I, you know, my girlfriend's a Democrat. I'm like, well, get out. How does that happen? I don't know. And that's what I said. I said, there is a fundamental difference in the values of Democrats and Republicans. That's not going to work.
Starting point is 01:32:24 I mean, what happens if she gets pregnant? First all you know there's just like i can save her i can fix her that's what it is well i mean that's partly true women who get married tend to vote republican but it could be because women who have republican leanings are more likely to get married you know the marriage may not be the catalyst. It may be the inverse. You never know, I guess. But I will tell you, millennials seem to be extremely unhappy, particularly millennial, Gen Z, and younger women. They have very high suicide attempt rates, very high depression and anxiety.
Starting point is 01:33:00 So there's no, you can't come to me and be like, no, they're happier than ever. They're not statistically miserable. It's nuts because it's the hottest girl. I mean, that girl is beautiful who is talking like this, like this. And she doesn't have a boyfriend. Are you kidding me? Like if I was 22. Something is fundamentally broken. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:33:12 Ian, Ian, are you joking? Why would a guy do the extra work and make himself monogamous with her when feminism says he can have her and all the other women all at the same time? Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free and that's what feminism did you know what a shotgun wedding is yep that was because dudes would go bang the girl in the barn and the father would run with the shotgun and be like uh-uh that was my daughter now you're married and the guy was like oh shucks the meme was that the guy didn't want to get married he just wanted to hook up but there were moral obligations to a woman. Women had leverage.
Starting point is 01:33:48 Now, it's all free, baby. She's like, I can't. We got nothing. Because of a. You're like, she should have a boyfriend. She's attractive. I mean, maybe 20, 30, 40 years ago. But now, a guy hooks up with her and says,
Starting point is 01:33:58 I can call her whenever I want, and she'll be there because she wants me, and I don't have to give her anything. Oh, my gosh. But that's a good thing. Well, not and i don't have to give her anything oh my gosh but that's a good thing well not not not give her anything thing but call her whenever you want kind of thing that's a good thing except she wants him for men to be in a relationship and he doesn't have to be she needs to take responsibility and not hook up with a guy thinking that it's going to convince him to commit to her i understand yes yes yes i understand except this woman says to the guy
Starting point is 01:34:26 hey i want to be in a relationship and he goes lady i got 50 women on tinder right now saying the opposite of what you're saying see ya it depends on what he wants yep i use there are probably a lot of older guys who are like i want to have a relationship there are young guys who want relationships too it's just it depends on uh i guess your maturity level i used to be like agreed uh get to know the girl my best friends for like a year then we became boyfriend and girlfriend for like seven years after that but we were already best friends and then after that didn't really work out and then i just was like you know if she's not gonna have sex on the first date i'm not interested and so that was how i just said that to her to myself i was like from now on while I'm dating if she doesn't want to hook up then she doesn't want to hook up. And that was my mentality. And I found a girl for four years didn't work out. You know, the recent girl we hooked up pretty quick.
Starting point is 01:35:13 That's true feminism. So like fourth wave feminism where we're at. Yeah, they have's like exhausting. Like, does she even like me? Like, why is she not having sex with me? I'm 34 years old. Like, I don't have time. Maybe it's because I was just getting older and like, I'm still in that dating, what's still in that dating pool. But like, I don't want to,
Starting point is 01:35:32 I don't want to wait and see on this one. Like, is it happening or not? Well, let's ask the audience. We're going to go to super chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends
Starting point is 01:35:41 and become a member at timcast.com. Head over to timcast.com. Click, join us. We're going to have a, share this show with your friends, and become a member at timcast.com. Head over to timcast.com, click join us. We're going to have a live members-only show where we expand upon many of these ideas. We've got some pretty dark subject matter for you tonight, and it's going to be uncensored and not so family-friendly, so that's why it'll be on timcast.com. But let's read your super chats. I'm not your buddy, guy says. I'm not your guy, friend. I'm not your friend, buddy. I need, Jesus says, Matthew 24, 4 through 13, to Timothy 13 through 2, or Timothy 3, 1 through 7,
Starting point is 01:36:12 and John 6, 37 through 39. Does anyone know those? What is the reference to? No. I just registered that as a mess of numbers. Ah, yes. It's a Bible verse. I want to thank everybody
Starting point is 01:36:22 for letting me empathize with neuroses that I think a lot of kids, young people are going through. I'm actually in an extremely awesome relationship at the moment. So, you know, I'm not really nervous
Starting point is 01:36:31 about myself, but I'm allowing myself to freak out a little bit. All right. You're shaking a little bit. Yeah, it's intense. Let's read some more. Rusty Shackelford says,
Starting point is 01:36:40 would IRC happen to be in the running for members only chat protocol now that Discord is out for the moment? No, the Discord is almost done. And so we'll go with that and we'll see what happens. But IRC happen to be in the running for members only chat protocol now that Discord is out for the moment? No, the Discord is almost done. And so we'll go with that and we'll see what happens. But IRC was a really funny idea.
Starting point is 01:36:50 It's a good idea. The problem is we just have to create like a new IRC server every morning or something. It'd be kind of weird. And then anybody could just share and give access to it. So what we're trying to do is create a system where if you're a member at TimCast.com, it gives you access to the Discord, which is relatively easy to do. But yeah, agreed. I don't trust Discord. However, I will say we're not banned from YouTube, so I'm not super worried about getting banned from Discord. I just don't like it. And when we were thinking about doing a different service, they're probably worse. So we'll figure it out.
Starting point is 01:37:21 All right. Damian Master says, yo, you hear discover card is going to start tracking their customers gun purchases wow oh wow really well i got rid of mine so how about that yeah that's a whole other private story so cory alexander says ashley saint claire is on so this episode is going to be based af as it was as it was matthew schneider says biden fetterman 2024 it's a no-brainer no yep that's a classic all right raymond g stanley jr says tim man the fire in your eyes at wesley's trek mistake i thought a drop kick was coming hilarious the chinese spy balloon skit with taylor it burns i'm still giggling keep them coming yo yeah so uh check out cast castle on timcast.com and uh we've got another one that we're planning that I'm
Starting point is 01:38:06 really excited for. Basically, we're just, it's a combination of, they're sketches, right? We're doing sketches that mock cultural issues. So, you know, and then there's gags in them. You guys got to collab with the B. I mean, that'd be great. We'd love to. Collab with us.
Starting point is 01:38:21 So, Ian did a really funny sketch where he was the host of a show called Rian with Ian, and he's basically Crowder. And then he's complaining about his contract with Roberto Jr., the rooster, and he's got, it's called, it was a play school, Rockin' Robot, where he secretly recorded Roberto's,
Starting point is 01:38:37 the rooster's conversation. You know, that's my resume. I think we should make, we need a hit movie, basically. We, I say, like, as in this movement, political movement, I don't think of that political terms, we there needs to be a hit movie that's not out of hollywood it's out of like a decent system of daily wire babylon b tim cast all these
Starting point is 01:38:53 cool networks make like a hit like lethal weapon hit movie i'm pitching it to crowder i haven't talked to him i don't know where he's at i haven't seen him in a month i mean we could easily do a movie yeah we just need a good script and uh six weeks i think i think a comedy a political comedy movie would be would be great because the budget can be low and then we would just reach out to people like ryan long you know he might be i don't want to the bambalon b well yeah of course i'm just saying we'll get a bunch of people and then we could do like a funny funny movie ryan's hilarious too yeah he's so funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:26 He was great on Rogan. I need to watch. I've only seen clips. Oh, is he on? Yep. Yep. Good for him. Good for him.
Starting point is 01:39:32 Yeah. He had one funny one. I'm not going to say maybe I'll, maybe I'll, dirty jokes, dirty jokes. All right, here we go. Fiji Merman says, I had a her she bar. I was expecting plain chocolate, but I took off the wrapper and saw giant nuts. Ha ha. That was a good one.
Starting point is 01:39:48 Amenthi says, stay alive, John Fetterman. We only need your corporeal form. Indeed. MF Damien says, hardcore depression after major accomplishments is common. The goal doesn't give meaning. The chase does. Once you have it, what now? Messes people up.
Starting point is 01:40:03 That's why I firmly recommend to children skateboarding. There was a great article I read when I was younger. It was called What Now? And it talks about how in skateboarding, you'll go to this stair set. Big set is very tall and you're going to jump down and you're trying to do a 360 kickflip off of that stair set and land it. And it's your dream trick. It's the hardest thing. You want to do it. You've tried it a couple of times. You've bailed. Finally, you come back with your friends and you're like, today's the day and you land it.
Starting point is 01:40:29 And for about three seconds, it feels good. And then you stop, pick up your board and it's gone. Now what? What now? It's over. Do it again. Doing it again won't give you that feeling. Another metaphor is like playing Magic the Gathering when you build your own deck
Starting point is 01:40:45 and then you win. It's so much more fulfilling than just getting a deck from someone and winning. Like having created the value, I think. So I'll say this. For me, with skateboarding, it got to the point where there's like nothing left for me to do.
Starting point is 01:41:01 I've been skating since I was about 13 and all the tricks I've wanted to do. I've been skating since I was about 13 and all the tricks I've wanted to do, I've done. And there are some things obviously like I'm not the best skateboarder in the world. There's a lot of things I can't do. I'm never going to do like a kickflip McTwist or anything, but I've never been passionate about that. So all the things I want to do, I've done, gotten the dopamine release. And now I'm like in my mid thirties and I'm like, I like skating, you know, I'll do some tricks here and there, but I have no desire to do a nollie heel flip crook, you know, big spin out or something because like I did that when I was a teenager, like the feeling isn't there anymore. So now it's
Starting point is 01:41:34 mostly just about cruising around, doing some big ollies, getting a few kickflips, heel flips, maybe a few good flip tricks, some, you know, late flips in, skating the mini ramp and just cruising around carving, hitting some grinds so you get the flow of things. And it feels good. You get the exercise. But that drive to like, I don't know, switch flip blunt is just not there anymore. What if Elon said he wants you to come kickflip on a spaceship? There's probably better people he could ask to do that.
Starting point is 01:42:00 Yes, you, Tim. Then would you go? I mean, I guess. Okay, we got you. He was like like kickflip your way to mars i don't know i wouldn't go to mars kickflip off the roof it would be weird like how would it would be weird to do a low gravity kickflip i don't know i can't imagine but i'm just saying like as you get older when you're young you see these things and you're like i i want to do that so bad and then when you're older you're like yeah i did all that stuff timcast spacex collaboration we make a music video in space on one of those re-entryable rockets or we'll go up in one of those maybe
Starting point is 01:42:33 it's really interesting that the article you were talking about for the skateboarding was called what now yeah that's what now yep matt kinder says i'd love to play a game of magic with any of the cast members do any of you have an arena account do you have an arena i think i do i don't use it though i don't play a lot online i have a a really good idea we are going to with uh poker with the boys show it's uh we're getting a poker table but it's really like a tabletop table right when you play magic the gathering with your buddies use a poker table because it's a card game and we could do board games but i had this really great idea of doing two things.
Starting point is 01:43:06 The Internet plays Magic the Gathering. The Internet plays poker. Here's what we do. We get five. For Magic, maybe we get five, six players. Maybe that's too many. Maybe four. But one player takes actions based on what the audience in the live chat is voting on.
Starting point is 01:43:24 So they'll show the cards we'll need to make like a real-time system where people can get an app and then see the cards in the hand and then pick the actions they want and then whatever the most actions get voted on is the player will do you could have it like um you show the cards in your hand one two three four five six seven and they just put the number play play card number and then it tracks the percentages and then what happens is there's a thing called priority. That's right, priority, right, in Magic. And so when someone plays a creature, if you have a counterspell,
Starting point is 01:43:52 priority goes to you, you ask the audience, they spam it, you give it five seconds, say, okay, tap, counterspell, boom. The world has chosen. So you're not really even playing, you're just the vessel. Right, the audience watching. For the internet to tell you what to do. Yeah. I thought that would be fun.
Starting point is 01:44:06 And I thought we could do it with a bunch of different things. Poker, board games. Create us an app where people can vote on what to do and then see if we can get a pro magic player to beat the entire internet. Did you guys see the guy who built a software program where you can play pool on a video game and it controls his pool stick and shoots the actual pool and then he has a camera on his table that's very cool he's a got a big youtube channel all right let's read some more smig says brain debt is actually used in the medical field but
Starting point is 01:44:35 the term is actually called death by neurological criteria really is that is that a nerd i'm kidding son of a murph says ian removing the dnr would make the everyday person have to pay attending during the election cycles pay attention yeah i i we've been talking about for a long time yes because then they're gonna be like vote democrat and they're gonna go who's that get rid of it if they don't know who they're voting for they shouldn't be voting for him good luck figure it out we did uh we did a we did a cast castle sketch where we had mtg play mtg that with ian marjorie taylor green played magic the gathering and she has she beats ian and ian gets really mad and he's like okay and then he's outside she actually played she
Starting point is 01:45:17 didn't she doesn't we told her what to say and she performed it perfectly oh i love that i just love when she's like ian plays wrath of god and then she taps the blue and she goes monodrain and ian's like people who know that means find it funny if you don't it's esoteric got it one take nice job yeah she did a great job we got a real i wish i could tell you the joke for the one we're doing now but it's too good so i can't it's like we're gonna put it up on youtube and everyone's gonna laugh laugh when they see it. I just, I can't, I'm going to stop there. Do you actually, Thomas Martin thinks Tim Daphne plays white, green, cat deck. No, I play red, white, and blue. Red, white, and blue, baby.
Starting point is 01:45:55 Those are my colors. America. Shocking. One of my favorite decks is red, white, and blue. So there's- Kaikar. Yeah. Nasty.
Starting point is 01:46:02 But mostly blue. It's control. So that's the color for, you know, control and manipulation. You can see the red magic come out of his eyes sometimes when he's getting fired up. Yeah. So red is like chaos and aggression. And so I like playing red and blue, which is chaos and control. It's a mix.
Starting point is 01:46:16 And then, you know, it is what it is. So let's read some more. What do we got here? Some more super jets. Clint Torres says, I think Fetterman is in for an experimental treatment and one day is going to come out in a press conference rip open his suit to expose a superman symbol and yell hey you guys look man they've got stuff okay let me just say stuff for it's like eight thousand dollars stem cell treatments we got bocus the cat stem cells to save his kidneys and it seems to be working you think they're gonna do that for fetterman i think they're gonna let him maybe they want to live and die i don't think they're
Starting point is 01:46:49 giving him any stem cells maybe they're saving that for hillary erucane says use locals for your members chat um maybe but we we we need more than that we went we uh with discord you can do collins yeah it's's a little deeper. Yeah. And we can create different rooms. So we can actually create like the VIP lounge elite access or whatever. And it's like I'd rather have it be based on like time frames. Like you become a member and then if you've been a member for a certain amount of time, you move up in the rooms or whatever. Yeah, there will be like the VIP lounge and it's like if you've been a member longer than three months then you're in the vip lounge i wouldn't want to do anything
Starting point is 01:47:27 where it's like over a year but maybe because then it's good for us it encourages people to stay members for a long time to go in these rooms you gotta show respect to your veterans that's right and we'll put ian in the room oh my god we'll put in in the vip lounge but i'm only gonna chat with video or audio i don't want to do. And it'll be like if you've been a member for at least a year then you're in the room with Ian as he's playing video games.
Starting point is 01:47:49 That's pretty cool. Yeah. And you can play video games with Ian. He's so happy. Let's play some Baldur's Gate 3. All right.
Starting point is 01:47:56 Son of a Murph says Donald Trump Jr. has bank account canceled. News. What? Really? Is that? Let me pull up
Starting point is 01:48:02 the old Don Jr. Twitter account. I bet it was Chase. It was what? Or just bamboozled you. It was Chase. It was Chase? Chase canceled pull up the old Don Jr. Twitter account. I bet it was Chase. It was what? It was Chase. Chase canceled it? I don't know. I said I bet it was Chase. Alright. Whoa. What?
Starting point is 01:48:15 PNC Bank shut down the bank account for my app MXM News without any explanation? What? You give a speech at... This is a quote. You give a speech at one insurrection. Is that what he said? It looks like that's a quote from him. I knew this was coming.
Starting point is 01:48:30 Is that what he said? I knew Kanye was the star. That's the quote from alternet.com. Whoa. That's crazy. Debanked. At the beginning, after being told to call a generic helpline, I was informed by the PNC representative
Starting point is 01:48:44 that per the terms and conditions, PNC reserves the right to reevaluate their business relationships at any time and terminate accounts without cause. Well, you know who just started a bank? John Rich. Donald Trump. Donald Trump. Yo, that's scary, man. This is what happens. This is what happens and this is why and i know a lot of people are going to disagree with me here but i was very concerned with the compulsion to disavow kanye because he had just been banned from chase
Starting point is 01:49:15 bank um and that to me no matter what he said is really scary um and but conservatives even if they had never said anything even remotely similar to what kanye said they had this compulsion to disavow which makes it worse had been a thing for a long time before it even happened to kanye yep it set the precedent that that's just we got we got i gotta read this one's a good one eric christiansen says i have a question to ask about the title of this episode rumored the title of the episode is Fetterman Rumored Braindead. And, okay, figuratively, he's braindead. Literally, it's rumored that he's braindead, okay?
Starting point is 01:49:51 So we can call Fetterman braindead if we mean he's just not functioning properly. But in this context, it was like, the rumor is that he's literally in a chair, drooling and going, and like not functioning anymore. But good super chat. Very funny. Alright, what do we got here?
Starting point is 01:50:09 Heron Gaming News says I can hear Luke going reee when Tim said anarchist society doesn't work. It's not an opinion. It's a fact. Every attempt at an anarchist society has been crushed militaristically. I'm not saying it's not ideal or that we couldn't implement it in the future.
Starting point is 01:50:24 I'm saying historically, every time there's been a community of anarchists they've been crushed by outside forces short-lived a bunch of people sitting around being like let's vote on how to deal with the the uh the insert the uh the insurgent hordes that are storming into our territories and then by the time they figured out they're gone so there's always some kind of mix there's always some kind of executive it's when the executive knows that it's it's uh dangerous situations is when they're needed is when they create dangerous situations so that they're needed that's when that's when the anarchy needs to step up let's just make it michael malice and call it good red run red rum max red rum access funny how ian has on his twitter pin that he will build
Starting point is 01:51:07 muscle this year and yet and yet is as sickly looking as ever it's february no it's it's march it's march yeah no i'm not healthy i think i have a parasite i need to cleanse cleanse my body fix my dental work i just had a tooth break today like i need to fix my teeth i'm like the united states i'm like a shell that's like not being kept up probably not taking i haven't been taking care of myself i haven't been getting enough sunlight just just put on the muscle suit and don't come on the show and you know there it is but i i really need to to purge my body of disease or whatever the hell's in it right now yeah yeah and i still got this okay i feel like i'm living in pain but i'm desensitized to the pain so i haven't been realizing.
Starting point is 01:51:45 Like, my jaw hurts. Like, almost like constant pain. All right. Thomas Sidebottom says, in the age of deepfakes, the in-person campaign tours will become incredibly powerful. No more basement campaigns. Yep. James Madison's Ghost says, AI deepfake videos will become the fake news headlines that get get shadow changed a day later after everyone has already read them, misinforming people. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:52:11 The Trump example of disavowing white supremacists is exactly it. They will make a deep fake, alter one word to make it sound worse. And that's all liberals will see. Welcome to the future. Dorktanian says you're very optimistic about this. There are going to be bots automatically feeding news stories to the AI skewed in their favor to have instant deep fakes created as the stories pop up. Yup. So we are using AI for TimCast.com news articles.
Starting point is 01:52:41 When there's a story, we're taking, we're not all of it. Sometimes we'll just get a picture of the guy. We're making our own custom art for everything. But some of it is AI deepfake in that, like we did a story about Pete Buttigieg and the train derailment. So our news team just AI generated a Pete Buttigieg art with a train derailment art. And that's what we used for the story. It's not a real picture. No one would confuse it as being a real picture because it looks like a painting, but we are using ai for the characterization of these things i wonder if photorealistic art ai stuff should be should be watermarked or banned nope you'll never be able to ban it free speech free speech to make you say something i don't know about that i don't
Starting point is 01:53:24 know if we did the star trek joke in this cast in the cast cast castle episode but considering it's already out anyway i'm going to say it but um we took we uh captain picard and data and deep faked a conversation between the two between the two of them where data accuses picard of being racist because of disparaging remarks about klingons and and you know my brother made a funny joke about it i don't know if it's actually in the episode but i but that was that was an idea i had where i was like if the gag is the camera comes into the room and i'm sitting there watching star trek then we can make star trek say whatever we want on the tv yes oh yeah so it's like I'm sitting there watching the TV and you can see like the
Starting point is 01:54:05 Enterprise fly in and then it cuts to my face and you hear Data being like I just can't quite figure out how to give it to her properly, sir. Well, Data, you have to try and thrust, thrust. Things like that. And then I'm just going like, that was a good episode. So we can do, we can make any show say anything we want.
Starting point is 01:54:22 Oh my god. Yeah, we could, and we should just do it all the time. It's hilarious. But this one was particularly offensive, so. I don't know if it made it in the episode. I don't know. But all I know is if it did, it was hilariously edgy. It was good.
Starting point is 01:54:35 We'll talk about it in the members-only show. All right, where are we at? Matthew Waddle. Like Adam Saleen, the AI leader of the rebel movement in Heinlein's The Moon is a harsh mistress. The book was written in the 60s. Interesting. Alright, where are we at? E-Wape
Starting point is 01:54:53 says need to start attributing a cryptographic hash to metadata of official videos. Can't use legally if the hash doesn't match public key. Nope. Because there's screen grabs. because there's compression, because there's downloads. So you can try and attach metadata tags to things, but there will be, as soon as Trump gives a speech, there will be 15 versions of that speech
Starting point is 01:55:15 on the internet. Figure out which one's the real one. And what they'll do is the fake ones, they'll get meta tags too. And they'll say, no, ours is the real one. Then you'll get nefarious actors that will film it deep fake it like actual press will be at the event they will film Trump speak then they will
Starting point is 01:55:30 deep fake alter it put a meta tag on and be like that's the real one here's proof a picture of me at the event what are you gonna do
Starting point is 01:55:35 about it what are you gonna do maybe supply the original meta tags and be like this is the original this is the earliest date if the dates
Starting point is 01:55:43 in the meta tag I don't know if that stuff can be forged if you have a technical solution you think you do hit me up on twitter with it i want to give a shout out to uh it's i think it's mel and rye rock paper scissors anime is amazing video i talked about this a little bit i think earlier this uh uh youtube channel corridor crew they used ai technology to turn themselves into anime characters. So in order to make an anime battle, it's anime rock, paper, scissors.
Starting point is 01:56:10 Two brothers fight over the throne by playing rock, paper, scissors. And it's actually really funny. Like when they rock, paper, scissors, shoot, there's like wind and like the windows all explode and they're like, but they filmed themselves in a green screen, then used AI to convert that into anime. Then they took photorealistic like environments from Unreal Engine, I think, converted that to anime, to like animation style, and then made this show without actually drawing anything. That's so cool. But we're not going to – in my, in my opinion, still rudimentary.
Starting point is 01:56:45 I think we're a couple years away from you typing in make me an anime about two brothers fighting over the throne and it will just start rendering
Starting point is 01:56:53 and then it'll be like come back in 10 minutes. Boom. Here's a 15 minute episode. It's going to be crazy because I'm going to be like write a sequel to the X-Files movie
Starting point is 01:57:01 where Mulder actually discovers there are aliens and then I'll watch it and I'll actually enjoy it. Yeah, I'm thinking like it's going to be less about making the best piece of art and more about making consistently good art. Because there's going to be so much of it that there might be flash in the pans of this is so great, that's so great. But the really great ones are going to get reused and recopied and reprinted over and over again so you just need to be known for putting out lots and lots and lots if you want to make a career in it i mean all right what's that an art and digital art
Starting point is 01:57:33 baby leg bennett says ian the meaning of life is to simply live a life full of meaning now please Roll me a 77. Okay. Okay. Uh-oh. No, no, that doesn't count. That doesn't count. It fell off. This thing never stops rolling. Yeah, it's quite circular. Oh, where's it going? Okay, it's rolling.
Starting point is 01:57:54 Is it going to be a 77? And it's... Nope. Nope. Decided to keep going. You guys ever do a Ouija board? It's going to fall off. Wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:58:01 You should. No, I should not. 75. Whoa. Close one. Oh, it is 75 wow sorry
Starting point is 01:58:06 next time I'm getting better that's why I wanted to rate this one because I'm like if he rolls this and actually 77 comes up but 75 that's only two points away man
Starting point is 01:58:15 that's pretty nice that's a fairly accurate call right there the price was wrong the price is wrong bitch all right Carlos Y says Ian the purpose of kids is to set them up to have an even better life than you. You don't want them to just have what you have but to exceed you.
Starting point is 01:58:31 I half agree. You want, in order for kids to have a better life than you, they have to experience hardship to become strong. So a big mistake a lot of people make is they raise their kids and say, I want to give my son the things I never had. So I'm going to send him to a good school and i'm going to buy him a new car and i'm going to give him all these things i wish i had and it's like bro you are successful because of things you didn't have giving your kid all this stuff just means going to be entitled when he's older and be like why won't the government give me a new car so what you should do is when you have your kid bring him out to the woods and you know teach him to fight and punch trees and
Starting point is 01:59:03 start fires and like campfires i mean obviously and you know teach them to fight and punch trees and start fires and like campfires i mean obviously and you know survive not not start forest fires yeah fire no no none of that none of that all right cowboy redux says the internet has already destroyed politics long before deepfakes politicians do not do their jobs the only virtue the only virtue signal on social media the people that vote for them live in a spectacle economy inundated with depravity. Yeah, but let's be real before the internet, you'd get people like Hillary Clinton, and they'd go to New York and be like, you got to vote for me because I'm just like you guys, huh? You know, vote for me. Yeah. Then they go down to Alabama, but you got to vote for me because I'm just like you. And then they go to
Starting point is 01:59:41 Chicago and be like, you know, if you vote for me me i'll get your garage door opener fixed in no time that's what hillary clinton was doing because internet video wasn't a thing when she was younger so she went down to like arkansas or whatever and started talking with the southern drawl and it's like oh please new york senator hillary clinton aoc did the same thing it's like she has no she did the latina thing Yeah. It's not as bad as breakfast tacos from Jill Biden. Oh, yeah. Jeez. All right. What do we got?
Starting point is 02:00:12 Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Ian, sir, please stop blaming 2006 YouTube content. Hey, man. Don't knock it till you try it. Put your emotions and your truth, honesty, and your face on the internet on video after video and listen to people and make responses and create community try it it's not easy get a man all right let's grab uh we'll grab one more super chat what do we got let's uh let's see a good one neglectful sausage says i've always said star trek is racist af in next generation picard says like a romulan or like a Klingon to people using race as an insult. DS9 was the same.
Starting point is 02:00:50 Well, okay. Well, yes, that's a good point. And you should watch Cast Castle to see the bit we did because it's basically that. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, become a member over at TimCast.com by clicking Join Us. And in about 10 minutes, we'll have the live uncensored after show up for all of you to hang out. And we've got some pretty dark stuff to talk about. It's not going to be family friendly, so you're being warned.
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Starting point is 02:02:04 over at youtube.com slash timcast, we will have a hangout interview slash conversation with Pete Parata, formerly of The Offspring, and we're going to talk about the issue he faced with the VAX mandates, how he was unceremoniously removed from The Offspring after 14 years. And I got to tell you guys a crazy story. So Pete has been in a bunch of, he's been in the two of the music videos
Starting point is 02:02:29 out of three we've done so far. Technically there's four, but two of the ones we've done recently. One's not out yet. It's currently being edited. And he came out here, we filmed. He's amazing. He's an amazing drummer.
Starting point is 02:02:39 It's an honor and a privilege for me to get to work with, you know, the drummer who was with The Offspring for 14 years because they were my childhood favorite band. But he's never publicly done an interview about what happened with being kicked out of the band because he's a very humble, you know, kind of quiet guy. But I asked him if he would want to come on and talk about this and give us the full picture and talk about a bunch of other things. And he agreed. So we're going to be recording it tomorrow morning for the Culture War podcast episode two. But here's the crazy story.
Starting point is 02:03:06 Last night after this show, I go home and I'm getting ready for bed and I press power on the TV. The only thing I press. And because usually I watch like Yellowstone or 1883, but I finished watching those. So I watched some movie last night. So I go into my bedroom and I turn the TV on, throw the remote in the bed, go into the bathroom, take my contacts out. When all of a sudden i start i start hearing kill boy powerhead an offspring song and i'm like what and then i walk out and alice and my girlfriend she's like did
Starting point is 02:03:33 you turn this on and i was like i turned the tv on she and why it's it was it was the offspring playing at a rock concert playing the song kill boy powerhead and pete's playing the drums on the show and i was like oh look it's pete and then allison's like you didn't turn this on and i'm like all i did was turn the tv on i didn't turn a channel on i didn't turn open amazon i didn't do anything i just pressed power so i have no idea why that turned on but it was just kind of crazy just on the tv that's really yeah part of the algorithms manipulating us to see what the machine creators want us to see is that i think it's the
Starting point is 02:04:05 ouija board but all i did was power like sometimes synergy is real it's like godlike spirituality and i'm afraid that people might might lose the the distinction between algorithmic manipulation and god actually moving people together so look normally when i turn the tv on it's static like because you get the home bar it's like an lg and like the bar pops up and you get you got to pick hbo or paramount or whatever and usually it's like amazon i turned the tv on this time and i didn't think twice and then it started playing a rock performance from the offspring and is which is weird because they're smart tvs they even if you turn it off like it resets you have to go back to the app that's that's very weird anyway when you do the
Starting point is 02:04:43 we're gonna we're gonna go to the uh we're gonna go to the members-only show, Uncensored, at TimCast.com. And also check out the Culture War podcast tomorrow at 1 p.m. YouTube.com slash TimCast. Thanks for hanging out. We'll see you all there.

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