Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #730 GOP REJECTS New J6 Footage From Tucker, DEFENDS Democrats w/Kash Patel

Episode Date: March 8, 2023

Tim, Ian, Phil, & Serge join Kash Patel to discuss Mitch McConnell claiming releasing the January 6th footage was a mistake, rich kids among Antifa arrested in Atlanta, a video showing a group of mask...ed teens attacking a Chinese restaurant, and an investigator at the Daily Wire resigning because of Matt Walsh's harsh tone. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Last night, Tucker Carlson presented footage to the American people and to the world, showing that the January 6th Select Committee and Democrats were lying about what happened on January 6th. Now, most of us knew they were lying because there's tons of video footage available to the public. But now we got what I would say is definitive proof that in one instance with the Q shaman, he didn't do anything wrong. He was escorted by police through the building. They tried to open doors for him and then they end up putting him in prison anyway. If this video was released to the public, along with many other videos, it would have completely debunked the narratives that were being pushed out by the mainstream media and the Democratic Party, notably the officer Sicknick, the officer who died, officer Sicknick,
Starting point is 00:00:43 a day later, videos of him walking around doing normal work stuff, completely seemingly uninjured. And they tried claiming, or I should say they literally claimed, and even to this day, the New York Times still claims he was killed by Trump supporters. It's a lie. Well, Mitch McConnell came out in his Mitch McConnell-y goodness and rejected Tucker Carlson's report, said it was a mistake, and he sides with the establishment, with the police, with the Democrats on this one, so surprise, surprise. We got to go through this evidence and talk about this, because it's big stuff. And we got a bunch of other stories, too, related to that that we'll get into,
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Starting point is 00:02:27 Yeah, for those that don't know, who are you? What do you do? I do nothing. I pay to get on this show. No, Kash Patel, long story short, government boob, was in for 16 years, ended up being the chief of staff at DOD for the Trump administration, deputy director of national intelligence, and I'm the chief investigator for Russiagate under Devin Nunes, who exposed the whole Russiagate narrative stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Now, I've been on the outside advising Donald Trump, and my passion project, Fight With Cash, fightwithcash.com, started out as a legal offense trust for people who were being defamed and didn't have the money to do so. That spurned into a 501c3, the Cash Foundation, so now we raise money for active duty soldiers, law enforcement, tuition assistance. We fund whistleblowers. We're getting a hit piece on us because we actually had the audacity
Starting point is 00:03:10 to fund credible whistleblowers. That's a whole nother story. And we gave away over $100,000 last year. And this year we'd like to give away a million. Fightwithcash.com and thecashfoundation.com. Very cool. Yeah, we'll talk about Trump and political stuff too. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:03:59 With killer glasses, by the way. Yeah, I got the same eye shades on today. Let's do this so we have this tweet from charlie kirk breaking senate minority leader mitch mcconnell calls it a mistake for tucker carlson and fox news to release the never before seen j6 footage let me play for you this short clip it was a mistake in my view for fox news to depict this in a way that's completely at variance with what our chief law enforcement official here at Capitol thinks. Well, that's Mitch McConnell back in the blue right there, babe. That's what it's called, back in the blue. And then Elon Musk responded,
Starting point is 00:04:37 I keep forgetting which party he belongs to. And Charlie Kirk, he nails it. He says, Uniparty. Yeah, that's basically it. So as many of you know, we got this footage released. I think it's very important. It shows that the Q Shaman, actually, let me see if I can just pull up the video footage. I know we showed it last night, but for those that missed it, I want you all to see this so you can show your friends and your family, the people who don't believe you, the Q Shaman being escorted by police through the building who make no attempt whatsoever to stop him.
Starting point is 00:05:10 And not only do they make no attempt to stop him, they actually try to open doors for him. How are you going to charge someone with unlawful entry or trespassing or parading or whatever when you when you're escorting him through the building and opening doors? Look at this. Here he is walking through a mob of police officers who don't care at all. Literally don't care. Here we go. Right this way, sir. Here you are. And then sure enough, when he goes in,
Starting point is 00:05:36 he says, thank you to the Heavenly Father for taking the inspiration needed to these police officers to allow us into the building. There you go. There it is. Chansley understood that Capitol Police were his allies. Video shows him giving thanks for them in a prayer on the floor of the Senate. Watch. Thank you, Heavenly Father, for giving the inspiration needed to these police officers to allow us into the building. To allow us into the building. They let these people in the building.
Starting point is 00:06:06 And Mitch McConnell, he's mad. It was a mistake the American people get to see this footage of the Capitol Police helping these people. He says it's completely at variance with what the police had said. Maybe the police were lying because if you really want to believe the insurrection narrative, they were in on it. That's what AOC thinks whoa inside job i i tweeted j6 was an inside job and the left got real mad at me but pick one did you get kicked off twitter no but maybe maybe look i'll say this to the
Starting point is 00:06:39 liberals the democrats you got to pick one either the police let these people in and there was no insurrection or the Capitol Police were a part of the insurrection and were in on it the whole time. Can I just tell you one thing that people might get ticked off at? I'm glad that the videotape footage is getting out there, but I don't think it's the consequential piece of evidence that we need to see right now from the FBI to DOJ to answer the question you posed. You mean the consequential or you don't think it's consequential at all to answer the consequential question right whether or not that you just posed i think as a former federal prosecutor and a public defender who defended a lot of these types of cases what
Starting point is 00:07:15 you need to show is whether or not the fbi and government agents were using undercover operatives and informants on the day of january 6th because if you can show that, you know they've been out, hang on, but the paperwork shows having run informants, that's a six month buildup, minimum. Right. Minimum. It's not like they just dropped them into the Proud Boys and said, hey, don't disrupt, please.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Once you prove that, then you defeat the insurrection narrative with the FBI's own documentation. Forget what the videotape shows. Just for people who, you can't see what's going on in the room the reason why cash just said hang on or whatever is because i started smirking and rolling my eyes and what i meant to convey with that is come on we know they were involved well no no look i totally agree though i'm not saying i know definitively what i'm saying
Starting point is 00:08:00 is a reasonable suspicion is that there were agents, there's a video showing a guy with an earpiece pulling people into the building. All right. You combine that with the evidence of Ray Epps and it looks like you have a preponderance of evidence suggesting there may have been federal law enforcement involved in making that thing happen. I'll get you beyond a reasonable doubt. Two pieces of information ray epps was on fbi's most wanted list one day and the next day he was off of the fbi's most wanted list there are only two ways that happens you die or you're informant put that aside under congressional testimony jill sandborn who i used to work with the head of the fbi counterintelligence division in charge of all these investigations testified under oath when senator cruz asked her flat out were there federal agents involved with january 6th and she said quote senator i can't
Starting point is 00:08:52 answer that at this time not if the answer was definitively no having been a doj fbi guy myself she would have gone there and said nope absolutely not the reason she said i can't answer that is because of the same stonewalling they gave us during rushergate with christopher steelhelper and everybody else it's the same narrative and i'm telling you they were there so you're saying that she said i can't answer that because the answer is yes and that would compromise whatever their operation was exactly is i mean what's the argument they make that she just didn't know and she didn't want to say yes or no definitively there is no way the head of the FBI Counterintelligence Division, the number three ranking person at the FBI,
Starting point is 00:09:26 who is in charge of the January 6th investigations, did not know the answer to that. It is not possible. Sounds like the answer is yes. Matt Gaetz came out over a year ago saying that there was, I think there was evidence of federal involvement, I believe. Here's the other thing. Just follow the money.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Everybody wants to know about all the spycraft and all the cool stuff. You know what the FBI has to do to these informants pay them you know what that requires a bank go find out what's what we did with steel right and i got tortured for it i went to paul ryan and said give me this one subpoena and if i'm wrong you can fire me and he basically tried to fire me anyway wow but then i went and got the fbi records and the bank that paid him and then the floodgates opened game over they said there's no way we used informants to investigate the pfizer and donald trump and all this crap well if they did it then are you telling me they really didn't do it now yeah maybe they pay with crypto oh maybe that's
Starting point is 00:10:16 true and also i just kind of i want to say especially right now if you google search this story the media response is hilarious they're like like, what's the thing? I didn't. Oh, just every single story is like they're lying about what Tucker Carlson said. Right. One of the first things Tucker Carlson says in this report is we've all seen the violence and he shows video of the violence. Oh, I see. They've shown us this over and over again. What they're not telling you is that there was another portion with a permanent peaceful
Starting point is 00:10:43 rally that were led in by police. And that's not a part of their narrative. What they're doing now is they're claiming that Tucker only said it was peaceful because they project they claim they claim that the right does what they in fact are doing all the time. It's it's it's remarkable that if you're paying attention to news, if you are a discerning individual, like most people watching this show, you can see it happening. Like Ukraine Gate, for instance. Joe Biden is on camera engaging in a quid pro quo, admitting to a quid pro quo, unless you do what I demand, I will withhold federally guaranteed loans to your country, which he has no authority to do. And then when Donald Trump tries to investigate it, they accuse him of doing literally the same thing they were caught doing. So in this instance, Tucker Carlson comes out and says,
Starting point is 00:11:36 let me let me be nuanced. Yeah, there was violence. Those people are committing vandalism. They're attacking cops. They'll be prosecuted. These people were peaceful and the Democrats lied about it. So what are the Democrats democrats the media corporate press do they lie and claim tucker's only telling you it was peaceful and here's how you solve that yeah well how do you solve it put it all out for everybody yeah the problem is i wonder if the it's a it's a question of the i don't know the the intellectual capabilities of of the people between you know political parties or whatever well is it is i wonder if the divide in politics are uh perspicacious individuals and cogs zombies npcs you mean in putting this out i mean the decision to put this
Starting point is 00:12:20 out rests with the house no no i mean in terms of the left and the right. Oh. Is the left predominantly followers and the right is predominantly discerning individuals? I don't know the answer to that. I think you just got to play the videotape and put it all out there and let the online sleuths do what they do, which is. But I just get it. But you you take a look at what the response from the corporate press is. It's lying. No, I'm not disagreeing with you, but that's that's not new.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Well, sure. Sure. What I mean to say is, are there who just lack the the capabilities to watch the video you put out or will their demoralized brains not allow them to process that information as per yuri bezmanov i think it's a combination of the two i think after six or seven years of this some people just don't have the capacity to process that something like that could happen i think a lot of other people will quietly in their little group say okay we know that that happened but when we go to the microphones we have to say x yeah how much of this 44 000 hours
Starting point is 00:13:15 you think is deep faked i think look here's here's here's how the security footage works right in the capital having worked there a lot of it is just going to be dead time like empty rooms showing office furniture probably half of it to be honest with you so now we're down to like 21 000 hours of footage still a ton of footage right but that's i think 17 hours of footage 17 000 hours of footage 1 700 days of footage so just to put in perspective on how much it takes to digest all that and i guess ai they're able to use ai to split out all the footage of non-motion so they can just discard that i'm concerned that it's going to deep fake the q shaman not him obviously he's a little too public but
Starting point is 00:13:54 deep fake people blowing things up or destroying things when they weren't i mean obviously that's a malicious as hell but i can hey don't count it out you know we live in the united states any capable of anything. The one thing the left and some of the media, and I hate to say they had a piece of it right. But the one thing they are saying, which I have to agree with, is that there are portions of some of the people that we're saying were totally innocent, where there's actually videotaped of them doing something illegal, like trespassing per the criminal statutes or interfering with police officers so that's going to be the problem that if you do person by person like you do the whatever this guy's name is i don't think tucker chansley i don't think tucker should have started with that guy he should have picked some guy that was straight up innocent looked at all the videotape on that one guy found out he was charged with something he should never been charged with and then started
Starting point is 00:14:43 with him this guy is just too divisive of a character to do that with because i'm sure the left's going to come back and say hey check out this video and i don't know if this is true but check out this video of him you know kicking a cop in the shit or something i don't think there's anything of that i think the only footage they ever showed is him just walking through and yelling in a bullhorn but it's the it's the it's the iconography okay the weird hat thing that he's wearing the face paint that's why they they targeted him. I think you're onto something with that. I think the iconography of that day, they really, really wanted the memes to be that the – at least for the left.
Starting point is 00:15:14 They wanted the memes to be that it was a violent, serious thing. Anytime I talk about it, it's not odd that I get pictures of that miniature noose that they put up, the miniature gallows. It wasn't even full size, but people on the left still think that that gallows was real and that was a real threat and stuff. So I think the meme thing is totally right. Yeah, I just looked Jacob Chansley up, just searched for him on Brave. Three of the top 10 photos are him screaming like that's the that's the image i think a lot of people are looking for is him going ah yeah yeah nah you know if you scream you're i think if they trespassing like non-violent offenses
Starting point is 00:15:57 they've served time that's time served get them out immediately get them out if they showed a picture of like some 50 year old dude with a big beer belly holding a little american flag and wiggling it holding his baby in his arms or something well i don't know if he had babies with him but there's like some some big fat guy just like waving an american flag it doesn't it doesn't have that same kind of vibe of some dude with a crazy being like that did anybody take kids in that day i don't know the answer to that i don't think so probably though i mean i wouldn't be surprised a lot of these people were at a peaceful rally on the other side of the building that had a permit to be there. And the police opened the doors and let them in.
Starting point is 00:16:29 And Alex Jones is yelling, stop, don't do it. Don't go in the building. If they're obsessed with blaming innocent people for crime, they're going to lose. It's going to lose. It can't, it's not sustainable. Why do you say that? I'm not so convinced.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Because it's all, the data's coming out. It's becoming apparent like people are making fun of them on the news but the people on the left are doubling down and saying that tucker's lying that they're that it's wrong blah blah blah and the average normie that doesn't watch a lot of this stuff that has maybe you know an hour a week that they can commit to actually paying attention to what's going on in politics, they're still going to get their news from MSNBC or CNN or whatever. And so I don't know that it's guaranteed that just because this stuff comes out, your average person
Starting point is 00:17:17 that is, you know, a normie is going to be significantly swayed. Now, I hope that i'm wrong but i don't see any real reason to believe that this information is really new you know i mean it's like these are things that people thought and assume before i don't think that just because there's confirmation on video i don't think that your average soccer mom in southern connecticut is like oh man i should have won i'm talking about i will support their investigation if they let the innocent people go. If there are people breaking windows and kicking cops, I want them to serve justice for that.
Starting point is 00:17:52 So I'll join them and their crusade if they let the innocent people go. This is why I was saying just a moment ago that I wonder if what really does separate the political factions in this country is cognitive faculties. Oh, yeah, McConnell was talking so slow in that video earlier it's not just that it's normalized it's it's you have people who believe literally anything the media says and no matter how many times they're proven to be liars and wrong they just keep doubling down and i'm like that's a certain level of zombism yeah that you know a
Starting point is 00:18:21 lack of higher brain function you know like if someone comes to you and says, do you want to stick a gum? And then you're like, well, yes, I certainly would. And when you pull it out, it snaps your finger with those little prank traps they have. And you go, well, that kind of hurt. That was a dick move. Then you go, here, take another piece of gum.
Starting point is 00:18:36 And then you go, I don't mind if I do. Snap, ow, man, stop doing that. Well, do you want gum for real time? Yes, I certainly do. Like at a certain point, it's like, what's wrong with you? He's just going to snap your finger again. You're not wrong. There's still people who think that we went into Iraq because there were WMDs there.
Starting point is 00:18:50 That's literally never going to change for a certain faction of the populace, even though years later it was proven definitively that that wasn't even the case. It wasn't even remotely the case. There are people that still believe Donald Trump defended white nationalists and neo-Nazis. I think it was a Mark Twain quote. He's also a Russian asset. Don't forget that. There was a guy who went on MSNBC and argued that Donald Trump was a Soviet asset.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Like the Soviet Union doesn't even exist anymore. That was my favorite. I enjoyed it. Was it Jonathan Chait? I enjoyed that. To be fair, what he said was that Trump may have been an asset of the Russians since the 80s, which would imply he was an asset of the Soviet Union. In the 80s. In the 80s.
Starting point is 00:19:30 And after the Soviet Union collapsed, the infrastructure of Russia maintained him as an asset for their country. That's my favorite fan fiction. That is my favorite comic book story. Can we do like, we need a skit where Donald Trump is like talking and then someone accidentally says the activation code and then Trump starts speaking Russian. Can you imagine Donald Trump doing the
Starting point is 00:19:53 someone that can do a really good Donald Trump imitation but speaking purely in Russian. Need you agent. Oh man, that would be no one's done that. Trump in Russian? Yeah, in Russian, but doing the... According thing?
Starting point is 00:20:06 Does what done your comrades. Mark Twain has this quote. It says it's easier to fool people than to convince them they've been fooled. Yeah. And he's a smart, he was a smart dude. There's a risk that like all this information doesn't convince people.
Starting point is 00:20:21 It just makes them say, well, I want to pay less attention. Yeah. You know? If you make them feel stupid, they'll withdraw. So you got to do it in a way convince people it just makes them say well i want to pay less attention yeah you know it's if you make them feel stupid they'll withdraw so you got to do it in a way that people kind of empowers people rather than be like you were so wrong look totally no be like look how much better off we are now that the truth is apparent let me jump to this story from the daily mail quote it rips our wombs wide open family of capital cop brian sickick, who died the day after January 6th, slammed Fox News and Tucker Carlson for using new footage to downplay riot and claim his death was not linked
Starting point is 00:20:50 in the video footage. I don't know if they have it in the article. Actually, it looks like they do. Let me we'll we'll mute this real quick and then we'll play it. You can see Officer Sicknick is walking around seemingly uninjured, doing his job, telling people to move. He walks over and he grabs some sign of some sort and then puts it behind a statue. So he's going about his business. They initially claimed, the New York Times, that, what did they say, that he got killed with a fire extinguisher? Hit him in the head. Hit him in the head.
Starting point is 00:21:19 That article is still up right now. In fact, let me see if I can find it. New York Times. I had the archive. There we see if I can find it. New York Times. I had the archive. There we go. I saw it today. Here it is. There it is.
Starting point is 00:21:31 He dreamed of being a police officer then was killed by a pro-Trump mob. Yo, this is definitively proven false. How is this article still up right now?
Starting point is 00:21:41 Because they're lying liars. Look at this. They have an update. That's all they have. New information has emerged regarding the death of the Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick
Starting point is 00:21:48 that questions the initial cause of his death provided by officials. So how about you take down your fake news? Well, or leave it up, but make it very apparent that this is an old article
Starting point is 00:21:58 that's been changed in the title. That update should be in the title. Well, you guys are asking for way too much. That is unrealistic. That is never going to happen.
Starting point is 00:22:05 It stopped happening seven years ago. This is like libelous slander felonious. Like from back in the day, you'd get- But a mob can't sue you, right? They have defamed a pro-Trump mob as they've described it. Right. They haven't identified anyone. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:20 They're like, we didn't burn anyone. We just fed the fire. So that's for all you who are wondering how to defame people and get away with it, apparently just apply them to a group. So say like a group of Phil Labontes was seen punching a dog or something. And it's like, well, I didn't say he did it. I said a group of him was doing it. Yep.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Then my pronouns are they, apparently. They. So I guess, here's the thing, man. You're going to, no matter matter what happens no matter what proof it's as yuri bezmanov said you can show the demoralized person proof and they won't accept it ian just mentioned i think you were just mentioning it's easier to fool the person or that was a mark twain quote it's easier to fool someone than to convince them that they've been fooled the reason the reason is fooling someone is is a simple task of putting your trust in the
Starting point is 00:23:03 wrong person but telling someone they've been fooled is to insult their ego and it makes them recalibrate their entire world view on the spot it's a challenge depending on how much you know depending on how much they have to recalibrate their world view if someone has a deeply a deep conviction from when they were like a kid ripping that out of them at 30 years old is going to be not impossible 100 but if somebody like walks down the street and sees a dog do a backflip and then you show them proof that it was actually an illusion by a magician with a mirror they're more likely back oh i didn't realize that and like if they've told 50 of their friends that a dog did a backflip they're going to be less like
Starting point is 00:23:39 they're going to be more resistant to realizing they're a liar it's not just a one-off anymore you're right it's probably more than seven years ago but this has been an ongoing campaign of disinformation by the mainstream media i mean go back if you go russiagate ukraine impeachment one two jan six the ccp balloon to bring it full speed and then you talk north stream two all of these people have been lied to and lying in the media consistently, even though they were proven wrong. COVID origins. I was the deputy director of national intelligence when we briefed Trump where the virus came from. And you know what he did the next day?
Starting point is 00:24:12 Ban travel from China. We were all racist. Four years later. Hey, do you guys know where the COVID virus came from? The Wuhan lab. No. S. But all those people were lied to by the New York Times for years and years and years think it was somehow Trump engineered or related to his, you know, ineptitude that we have COVID on planet Earth. And this is a carryover that they are able to just forget and say, OK, what's the next what's the next iteration of fake news we can come up with?
Starting point is 00:24:41 So just speed through what we were duped on. So we have a couple of different types of people in this scenario. People on the left who know it's all a lie, but are lying themselves because they feel they're on the right side of history or they don't want to fight or for whatever reason. And the people who genuinely are just not smart enough to ever see through this and they just keep going on and believing it. Which do you think is bigger?
Starting point is 00:25:03 Which like the stupid people? Okay. Ignorant people. I shouldn't, i shouldn't be so cruel i should say um incapable of of discerning is it a lot is it like 60 40 i don't know man you know there was uh who's that comedian uh bill burr is that his bill burr bald dude yeah he was on rogan and he was like look joe i i don't i don't know i just turn on the TV. They put on a mask. I put a mask on. I just two weeks later, take it off. I'll take it off. Like that's the kind of person that's voting Democrat. They say, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I don't want to know. I'll turn the TV on and do whatever they tell me to do at the time. So it's maybe I should add a third person. The people are that's probably the people who know they're being lied to. Don't care. Just tell me what to say. And I'll say it because I want to go eat, you know eat a pizza at the bar with my buddies or watch football or something. Not only – you're right, but I don't – I feel like most people are so busy with the real important things in their lives.
Starting point is 00:25:58 We do it here. We talk about how families are important. We talk about how go get away from the cities that you know go have chickens all that all the stuff you know meet real people and at be active in the real world one of the things that comes with that is the responsibilities and that means that you don't have the time to sit there and be up to date on it and it's it's a balance is i guess is what i'm saying yes but joe biden gets elected and you look at the charts and i understand we're we're in the know the the economic charts show
Starting point is 00:26:31 that wages drop dramatically right after the time biden starts signing these executive orders and uh what is it wages drop and inflation skyrockets this means there should be a real world translation that we all know about that should be impacting regular people to realize things are bad. That is under Donald Trump or before the pandemic, the best numbers of our lives, record low unemployment. The economy was booming. It was tremendous. Everybody agrees. Then Joe Biden gets elected and you can't get eggs.
Starting point is 00:26:59 No, no eggs anywhere. Now, you're I don't expect the average person to be like, let me go on my phone and look up why there's no eggs i expect them to go to the store and be like yo where do you exit something's wrong or why do they cost so much when i can't or why are they six bucks like what's going on something's inflation war something's crazy that's the lie but here's the issue these people like do they not remember 2019 do they not remember making tons of money and having cheap goods and going out and partying? Best numbers of our lives? They forgot it all.
Starting point is 00:27:28 It hasn't. And now with all, with everything being bad, you mentioned like we're in the know. But certainly there should be economic dissent. There should be families being like, why is my rent so high? Why are my insurance rates going up? It hasn't hit them yet though. Because there was so, the inflation is still going up. Just the other, was it yesterday the fed was talking about uh they're not gonna they're probably not gonna
Starting point is 00:27:50 lower the uh interest rates the next time they get together or they're probably gonna raise them again because inflation is not going down as fast as they want a lot of the reason why people aren't up in arms is because the squeeze hasn't hit enough people and it hasn't reached that critical mass. Not saying it's not coming. It's just that it hasn't really got to them yet. I really don't think that the average person has the real, like the real pinch where it's like, oh man, I really need to stop complaining about this and really get up and go do something or else I'm not going to be able to feed myself or whatever. I don't think that that critical mass has hit yet.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Yeah, that's the frog in the pot boiling scenario. And they I have heard this law security false in security where they say it's Putin's war that's causing the inflation. So I think people think if we can just weather this inflation, once the war ends, it'll go back to normal. Yeah, I mean, there's probably still people that believe it's transitory. That's one of the things that the government has been had been telling the population for a year leading up to inflation getting really, really bad. Oh, it's transitory.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Don't worry about it. It's only going to be short term. past year or whatever the the administration has downplayed it and done its best to probably responsibly keep the population from freaking out but at some point they have to acknowledge look it's going to be it's not going to be as easy as it's not going to be a soft landing we're going to probably go into a recession probably a serious one and until that happens i don't think people are going to be like oh you know things actually are bad what do you think from a national security perspective about inflation does that concern you is it one of your when your big is one of the non-sexy items from a national security perspective is inflation if everything costs more than the defense of this
Starting point is 00:29:39 country costs more but the problem that we have is we just print money to the defense industrial complex and i'm not saying as a former chief of staff at DOD who paved the way for one of those budgets and wrote a lot of those contracts and funded them. I call the five big CEOs of Boeing, Northrop Grumman, and all those major producers that we have, McDonnell Douglas. And I said, okay, look, a lot of the stuff you make, awesome, provides an invaluable asset to defend this country. And a ton of the stuff you make doesn't. I've literally seen you light billions of dollars on fire. So how do we strike that balance, right?
Starting point is 00:30:10 And that's the problem when people don't know what inflation is, and then they just say, oh, it's a trillion dollars? Who cares if it's 1.1 trillion? No one actually really cares. And the people that care the least are the defense industrial companies because they take the check home no matter what, win or fail. And to me, that is something whatever whoever's in the next administration if you don't agree to take on those monsters in the defense industrial complex it doesn't matter what the inflation numbers are we are going to print money into a never-ending cycle i also see inflation
Starting point is 00:30:39 affecting domestic security and that you get roving bands of hungry dudes and masks that go into restaurants and kick kick tables over and grab stuff like that's security we need individual like local security as well which is a form of you know national security the groundswell that concerns me talking about you saw the video that yeah another one today of like 14 dudes and masks just wrecking a place in new york and yep i'm not opening fire for some reason because it's new york city well i mean what is this what is the? Let me pull it up. It was, it was,
Starting point is 00:31:06 it was just a video that I saw. And obviously Ian saw it. There was just a bunch of dudes just ransacking this, this establishment. It looked like it was Asian owned. I don't know. I don't know any details. I only saw the video.
Starting point is 00:31:18 I don't know who it was or whatever. I'm not pointing fingers or whatever, but that's not it. But how do I search for it? I don't know. I don't remember who it was that that posted it but it was another you know essentially just another uh video of of people just ransacking andy no might have it lawlessness i typed in mob to search mob like a real life andy no popped up for a real life version of the last of us maybe people's brains being rotted by fungus andy no's been going hard on the georgia terror attack i
Starting point is 00:31:48 mean that's there's probably a good reason for that it's so weird how i find myself becoming more conservative just being in the press well let's let's let's let's pull up this story here from the daily mail it's because of the left all these stories have an act of not the daily mail is where it's at i mean they've written up every single thing, and they've got photos of everything when it comes to this story. Very few outlets are covering the Antifa terror attack. Poor little rich boy smirking suspected Antifa goon who helped attack Georgia cop city, a son of NYC plastic furniture tycoon,
Starting point is 00:32:17 he and his 22 cronies appear in court on terror charges. So not only are these people, many of them from out of state, some international, they're rich kids. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. No, no. I was going to.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Yeah, go ahead. I was going to say this is another example of it ties into the earlier conversation. I didn't comment on it. The biggest problem I have right now is a two-tier system of justice. And that's the biggest argument we need to advance not the q anon shannon whatever that guy's name is or certain videos depicting x y and z but use it as a vehicle to say look at how differently you can be treated by the justice system united states of america depending on your political orientation go back to the antifa riots of not last summer but summer before that two uh liberal attorneys, white shoe lawyers, firebombed a New York City police car and burned it to the ground with Molotov cocktails. And the judge called him a good guy.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Good guy. So they were charged, obviously, rightfully so. As a federal prosecutor, a federal public defender who defended people who did that stuff, that's a 10-year minimum mandatory federal prison sentence you know what this doj did waived the charges allowed the judge to go under the midman and gave him basically probation that's a two-tier system of justice mark my word it's going to happen with this so ian just a moment ago said that he's finding himself becoming more conservative but i think the reality is in today, today's politics, conservative just means knowledgeable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Yeah. Because like, I'm not more pro-life or any, I mean, not really. The opinions of everyone in this room are not in complete alignment on core policy issues. They're in alignment on the facts.
Starting point is 00:33:59 That's it. Yeah. It's the mobs attacking people that I, it's kind of my main issue. I don't like that stuff. I found that video, if you guys want to pull it up,
Starting point is 00:34:06 from Yealand, I typed attack restaurant in Twitter and it popped up. How do you pronounce it? I mean, how do you spell that? The Twitter account is Y-C-I-N-N-E-W. Oh, I found it. Tim, to your point,
Starting point is 00:34:20 we live in the logic. We'll pull that up in a second. We live in the logic of Herbert Marqueuse. I've said this a bunch. It is, we live in the logic we'll pull that up in a second we live in the logic for herbert mark hughes i've said this a bunch it is it is we live in the uh the logic of of the left is okay to do whatever they want and the right must be censored even at the level of thought but how and and it's because people are scared of the left that's yeah but yeah cash i fully agree with you but how do we do that i mean i guess since the dawn of time i imagine the king's uh uh you know enforcement
Starting point is 00:34:44 arm doesn't prosecute him because and as a a leader, when are you going to be like, I'm under arrest? Like no leader that I've ever heard of would do that to themselves. But how would we do that? How would we prevent multiple tiers of justice from coexisting in a system? It's a massive overhaul. One, you have to control the executive branch of government, install an attorney general in the layers below him to eliminate prosecuting people based on religious orientation or political orientation, like the rescinded FBI memo from last week
Starting point is 00:35:14 that showed that the FBI was literally targeting Catholics. In order to do that, you have to wipe out the FBI. I've always said this, the best way, and wipe out the FBI, I mean the FBI headquarters component, right? The biggest problem in government is these monster headquarters components. The FBI headquarters building is the size of a New York City square block.
Starting point is 00:35:31 What I would do if I was FBI director in the next Trump administration is close down the Hoover building and make it a free monumental museum for the deep state on how not to run government and allow the world to go there for free. I'm not saying you don't need 50 people running the FBI. You do. But you take the 10,000 agents that are
Starting point is 00:35:50 stuck there and their lawyers and you send them into the field to investigate child sex crimes, bank robberies, cartels, fraud. And you do the same thing with the DOJ headquarters building, which is just across the street and just as big. Why do you need 5,000 lawyers in one place telling you how to not do something or how to politically motivate your bosses and say, and get them something that they just want? I worked with all these guys, all these guys that are producing these charges at DOJ for Jan 6th are literally people that I used to work with who have sent me subpoenas for January 6th. Literally sent me to the grand jury asking me about why I helped participate in X, Y, and Z. And I'm like, dude, I was literally there with you prosecuting terrorists.
Starting point is 00:36:31 And you're doing this because I've been labeled a Trump guy. And you need to make yourself look good in front of your boss. You need to wipe out all of this personnel. Charlie Kirk said a similar thing about the RNC decentralizing it. Getting that big central. Because what they do is they have lunch meetings there, then they go over on K Street and they hang out
Starting point is 00:36:47 and they all had a little cabal that forms, because it's so easy. But if they were far away from each other, then it becomes a challenge to collaborate. But you also make people do,
Starting point is 00:36:55 like, look, 98% of the guys I served with at the FBI want to go out and chase bank robbers and chase down terrorists and take out people who are harming children
Starting point is 00:37:04 and reduce the drug trade. You know, there's a couple of bad actors and you got to eliminate them the problem is they want to go to go after terrorists but then the upper level like the top floor is telling them that american like catholics are and they go along and that's why you have to wipe out both you have decentralized wipe out not just the upper level that's it's not just the ag and the director abolish demolish the building you gotta do the undersecretaries the chiefs but and everything else if these people are willing to go along with it they're part of the problem i totally agree and they shouldn't be in there i mean this is the genesis of my book government gangsters which this government won't let me release right now but the whole point is you can go out there whether it's dod nsa cia fbi
Starting point is 00:37:42 and i take flack for this all the time and I'm like yeah it is not an easy fix but there used to be a day when the FBI was just the FBI and DOJ was just the DOJ prosecuting based on facts and law and not politics and religion I saw a video this morning so I wake up and what was it I think I got
Starting point is 00:38:00 a clip sent to me by Seamus of Freedom Tunes and it's a funny Fauci cartoon. And then as soon as the cartoon ends, it rolls over to another video of police pulling over a 19-year-old football player and falsely charging him with a DUI. And you can even see after he blows the breathalyzer and the body camera footage, it says 0-0-0. Why did they do that? Why did this 19-year-old kid who was watching a football game driving home who did nothing wrong other than he had a headlight out so he has brights on it's like a
Starting point is 00:38:28 normal thing it happens to people your lights go out you're like well turn the brights on why why charge him with a dui and so the problem is i see things like this that a police officer falsely accuses a teenager of a DUI, but, and, and, the police will run in terror like pathetic whiny crybabies when Antifa sets fire to their building in Minnesota. They won't arrest these people. We can watch a video of 150 Antifa firebombing a government facility. And of course, there were 20 to 30 people getting arrested
Starting point is 00:39:05 but when you look at portland the cops just sit there and go well you know doji but you'll we see why is it that we have too many instances of police giving up bs tickets and making false arrests but we don't have too many videos of cops just arresting antifa well now we at least this thing in georgia i love this this situation i hate it because it was a horrible thing to firebomb a group of people to firebomb a police facility but it was great that they responded not by murdering people or not by killing i love you issuing 35 arrests and charging 23 people like that's the way the covid hysteria is over for the most part now it's like in fact i think in one city the governor or the mayor adams
Starting point is 00:39:44 in new york was saying take your masks off before you go shopping i don't want you going in there threatening thuggery he said stores have to tell people to remove their irony of ironies new york city is saying take your mask off i have to wonder cash if everything i said before about people being too stupid it's in fact that the leadership is as stupid right of course the leadership is no no the leadership is evil they're not stupid there's a distinction i've worked with all of these people they are pure evil the only thing the peloses and the schumers and the and the like care about in the world is being glorified in the media that's it what's my next headline what's my next payday how do i scam the stock market with my husband how do I come out on top and be Speaker of the House for more than basically a decade?
Starting point is 00:40:28 That is the tract that people come in behind them on and saying, I want to be the next term. I want to be the next him. They are evil. That's the problem. The people that follow them? Yes, stupid. I love that bit.
Starting point is 00:40:37 You mentioned term limits earlier, Phil, before the show got started. Do you think that would solve or at least disincentivize evil term term limits on the bureaucracy. I think the bureaucracy is the problem. I think that the, the elected officials are not, I think the elected officials are self-centered and self-serving and that they do mostly do things to benefit themselves. I think that the bureaucracy is where the real power is.
Starting point is 00:41:00 And I think the bureaucracy is the most, the biggest problem in the United States, like the head of the FBI, any of the, any of the alphabet soup uh agencies so your epa your fbi your cia your your atf your uh fda your all of them the reason is because they make law they make rules that have the effect of law with no repercussions from the population from the voting populace so we talk about how it's important that we're you know we're democracy but the people that make the rules that you live by on a day-to-day basis are almost always
Starting point is 00:41:36 unelected so the the government will decide we want to pass this law and then whatever agency that has jurisdiction over the law or whatever the topic is they will make the actual rules and the details to implement the law so that's a whole layer of legislation creation that the population basically doesn't have any access to has no ability to punish them if they do something wrong so what you're talking about is like the beef patty of your burger yeah that's the patty of your burger. Yeah, 100%. That's the beef patty of the deep state.
Starting point is 00:42:07 I agree. That's a novel concept that a lot of people aren't talking about. The FBI directors and CIA directors all have term limits. They're gone with every administration, right? Some should be shorter. That's a different argument. But these people that you're talking about are the ones that sit there and say, I don't care who the leader is.
Starting point is 00:42:22 I'm going to do what we want to do, what the political radical left agenda is, because it's the popular one. And they stay and convince the leadership to do it and goose it through the system. That was one of the biggest problems in the Trump administration. And one more thing to your point is it's not just, I understand and I agree that there are evil people,
Starting point is 00:42:38 but there's also something that Tim talks about, the banality of evil. There are people that just go to work and want to go and make sure that they can go on vacation with their wife and they want to just make sure their kids can go to school and get a good education and they come out of school and they can get good jobs for themselves
Starting point is 00:42:56 and they just want to live a normal life. So what they want to do is go to work and not make waves. And you know what makes waves? Voting for Donald Trump're doing stuff like that you know i want to jump to this next story but before i do somebody super chatted about investing in culture and that i've talked earlier about how we have to build culture and there's an idea we've been thinking about uh someone floated to us a while ago about giving a grant or a gift of a large sum of money to a member once per month. And I thought, you know what? That's actually a really good idea.
Starting point is 00:43:26 So we're going to do it on a whim. To do what with though? To like for creative cultural endeavor. Oh, cool. So on a whim, just literally right now, as I watched a super chat go by, I am announcing first, we got to check the legalities of this. But once per month, if legal and possible, we will select somebody to receive a $10,000 grant towards a cultural endeavor.
Starting point is 00:43:49 So that means if you're working on a comic, a podcast, a show, music or something, you're a member of the site, then we're going to work out a way that you can submit. And I imagine we won't even get that many submissions. There could only be like 10 people who end up saying like, hey, I'm putting a comic together. And it's like they get the 10K every month because they're working on it. But that's a good point. I want to see people build culture. And that's more important than anything I could ever buy. So the first thing I got to do is talk to the lawyer and the accountant.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Because you might not be able to. They might consider it like a sweepstakes or something. Oh, I get it. It took me a year to stand up the foundation because of obstacles like that. And then giving away money. This is hilarious. Giving away money is the hardest thing I've ever done. Why?
Starting point is 00:44:28 It's impossible. Because they're concerned about tax evasion and stuff like that. They might argue that if we do a thing where you have to be a member in order to receive money, then you're in a raffle or something. I see. So we might make it so that you don't have to be a member at all. But then it kind of feels unfair to the people who are supporting us to not be you know so we'll take a look into it but we will start probably this month once a month taking submissions we'll probably create an email address for it and you can submit like hey i want to make this thing and then once per month we'll
Starting point is 00:44:58 pick somebody and say this is our winner for the month send you a check for 10k to start working on that and the stipulation is we trust you please do it if you don't well have fun with the money you figure that out and at thanksgiving at christmas time i'll match your pledge that'll be cool yeah i just we in order to win a culture where you need culture right i was talking about this because band camp took our music down i saw that yeah i don't know we don't know why they haven't they didn't give any reason nope just gone and so but you play a certain song recently or like just out of the blue like one day we went to check we're putting up a new song that we just filmed the music video
Starting point is 00:45:30 for in a few weeks and it's gone three songs all three charted on billboard and they're just wiped off of their website whoa and so that's that's why i said the real thing that threatens the woke and the establishment is culture because you can't win a culture war if you're not making culture we can sit here and complain all day and night you can complain as you're getting swirled down the toilet but you make something now you're inspiring young people so fair point someone said invest and i say okay all right let's do it uh the tim cast we maybe we have the uh maybe we'll figure out a way to go through the non-profit or something whatever is the most legal and secure way to do it maybe it'll just be me personally giving someone a gift.
Starting point is 00:46:06 I don't know. We just got to make sure we do it right. So I'm not saying we, I know for sure we can, because they might come back and be like, no, that violates these laws or you got to file these paperwork. So,
Starting point is 00:46:15 you know, one way I figured out through the cash foundation to do it legally, we, we started this summer, we're going to fund summer camps for individuals who want to go to like whatever music, art, sports, who can't afford it to go down the cultural road, expand their horizons. It's a way to do it that's easy.
Starting point is 00:46:33 It's not the ultimate solution you're talking about. It would be as expansive as you want it to be. But I'm sure there's kind of a summer camp to be the next Tim Pool. Maybe we should create one of those. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The challenge with just giving money away is that there's no guarantee it's going to do anything for anybody. That's true, too. So it may help someone get better equipment and everything, but if they're not making something that functions, you know.
Starting point is 00:46:52 So we'll try and pick the best people. Maybe if you're working on a board game, you're working on songs or something, like just something that will be fun and expand the culture in the right direction. We'll start investing in that. What if you and Cash and someone else that can invest do your own version of Shark Tank but for cultural stuff? I mean, we had the idea of doing a non-profit Shark Tank. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Like, you know, people come in and request donations for their charity. Let me be the host. I'll be like the Heidi Klum. Done. Let's do a cultural Shark Tank thing.
Starting point is 00:47:21 All right. Yeah. All right. Today on Shark Tank. It'll be my cheap voice. I'll have that deep voice. Yeah, I'll wear a suit. Do you know how many people would watch that?
Starting point is 00:47:29 It'd be hot. It would be a bazillion people would turn that on to be like, forget all the garbage TV. You are actually helping young Americans or just Americans in general advance novel ideas and culture, and you're not doing it for profit. Who are some rich people we know who we can rope into this and i got a few but i think that i'll be down i mean there's a lot of people who are libertarian moderate post-liberal or whatever conservative who are like we need to win the culture war and so we need to just scattershot if we could get a hundred people every month working on cultural endeavors,
Starting point is 00:48:06 sooner or later, one of those things is going to hit. And then when it does, you've got culture building in the right direction. And that's something more powerful than what the left can do. Not to mention, you're going to get a lot of young people who are like, look, my real opportunity is going to be over here, not Hollywood, because Hollywood is elitist. And these guys
Starting point is 00:48:22 might actually give me the grant I need to make the comic book I wanted to write. Well, thanks to Super Chatters. I think it's a good idea. So, okay. We'll do this. We'll explore the 10K TimCast gift
Starting point is 00:48:33 or whatever it needs to be legally if we can. If we can't, I want to make sure I'm careful how I say this. They may not let us do it.
Starting point is 00:48:40 But if that's the case, then maybe we just do a show that's like Shark Tank but for cultural endeavors. And then we ask people to come in and pitch us your idea. I think it would be funny if for the most part, people come in, just always win. It's like we brought them in because we like what you're doing. So like, I'm in. Here's money.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Go make more of this stuff. There you go. You know? Then it's a feel good show, you know? Yeah. Like we act like we're going to, I don't know if I'm in, but I'm in. Yeah. You know, something like that.
Starting point is 00:49:07 But anyway, we'll elaborate maybe closer towards the Super Chat. I want to go back to the cultural stuff we were talking about and tell you why. Take a look at this video that Ian just told me to pull up. It is Yatin Chu says, this video is going viral on WeChat. Fish Village, a restaurant in College Point, Queens, was ransacked by a gang of masked kids in hoodies. We've fallen so low that there's no expectation of consequences for this horrific attack on private property. And here's the video. just a bunch of people in masks and hoodies they didn't take anything they didn't take anything they just destroyed all that's all they did you have no property rights in new york city
Starting point is 00:49:58 did any of these guys get arrested of course not come on no i mean look look like i'm assuming they didn't get arrested, but why would they get arrested? It's New York. True, true. I was just, I guess I was still hopeful. But you got Eric Adams saying, stop wearing masks indoors because of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Or he's telling businesses to make people remove their masks. Why would anybody open a business in New York? It's already going to cost you, it's going to cost, like literally, you probably need at least a million dollars to open a business, I imagine.
Starting point is 00:50:24 And then you're going to have people ransack it. The cops aren't going to cost, like literally, you probably need at least a million dollars to open a business, I imagine. And then you're going to have people ransack it. The cops aren't going to do anything. If someone attacks you and you defend yourself, you're going to go to jail. There is nothing at all attractive about New York. There's this old trope, an old joke about someone buys a house in an area and then they go out and they hear a gunshot one day
Starting point is 00:50:44 and they panic and they look outside and there's a neighbor standing in the yard and he says he waves them off and they come outside and did you hear that he goes no no don't worry about it you know once a week or so i fire one off to keep the property the property taxes low like there's an old joke about that or something like a tv show yeah i saw i saw there's a tiktok that's what they're doing it feels like what's happening in New York, people are fleeing. Wealthy people are fleeing. And we already heard from de Blasio during the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:51:11 He was going to buy up these buildings for pennies on the dollar and convert them into government housing. So is what's happening being allowed to happen so that the property values of New York collapses so the state can seize it all up for pennies on the dollar and then create a communist utopia? There might be elements of it. I think it's overwhelmed. values of new york collapses so the state can seize it all up for pennies on the dollar and then there might create a communist utopia might be elements of it i think it's overwhelmed i think that the the law enforcement's overwhelmed i mean just a group of how many are there 18 15 people
Starting point is 00:51:33 like even they're probably half of them are armed i don't know my guess the new york city police department is like the sixth largest army on earth 34 000 34 000 police officers they are not outgunned oh yeah they are 30 000 versus 17 million people no no no i'm talking about against yeah but that would be that 17 million people were criminals they're not like the number of criminals in a in a city matters because like the people that are committing crime are the people that continuously commit crime the reason that people their crime goes up or has been going up is because they let people that are criminals out of jail to commit more crime yeah that so look i'm a new yorker and a bunch of my buddies are on the nypd and i served with them when i was on the joint terrorism task
Starting point is 00:52:18 force what they're doing now is they're literally standing there because they're not allowed to go and make these arrests they're not allowed to go and make these arrests. They're not allowed to go and do these searches. And everybody has body cams and they have to be on at all times. And they're not allowed to go do the basic police work, the stop and frisk. And they can't stop people like this because they know the attorneys, the attorney generals and the state attorney general's officers will chuck cases out that they bring like this because it doesn't meet a specific narrative. It's a compounding effect. This is why New York City is terrible now.
Starting point is 00:52:49 It's not the New York I grew up in back in the day. And people don't want to go there anymore. And it's why people are leaving. They're moving to Florida and Texas and wherever, Idaho, West Virginia. Yeah. I heard that's a nice place to be. Yeah, we've got some new friends who are in New York for a while. They're down in this area now.
Starting point is 00:53:06 And so it's close enough to a bunch of airports. West Virginia itself is still this beautiful mountain country. But if you drive north a couple hours, you're in Pittsburgh. You drive to the east an hour or so, you're in D.C. You can go south to Richmond. So there's urban life. We can fly people in. There's opportunity out here.
Starting point is 00:53:21 But people are leaving the city. And I have to wonder if it's on purpose. That's the point. We talk about how they're not allowed to arrest these people, and that's an interesting question. Why would that be the case? What does the city gain by telling police not to arrest and charge these people? It's a combination narrative. It's not a one-off.
Starting point is 00:53:39 The left set out to have an opposite of a law enforcement agenda. They said, no cash bail. We are going to let everybody arrested, even for severe felonies, out on the streets. We are going to let illegal immigrants charged with other crimes, and then we find out we're illegals. We're not going to detain them. We're going to release them. When you do all that, and you bring in people to the justice system, and you tell your prosecutors, we're not going to charge low-level drug offenses. We're not going to charge low level drug offenses. We're not going to charge low level robberies.
Starting point is 00:54:07 It's a compounding effect that basically says to low level offenders, you're going to get away with this. And even if you're a medium to serious level offender, there's now a 50-50 chance no one catches you. And if they do, the charges might get dropped. So what do criminals do? Become bigger criminals. And that New York City, San Francisco, Chicago. become bigger criminals and that new york city san francisco chicago chicago last year literally had a child under the age of five shot a month one child under the age of five shot a month and killed that doesn't happen in any other city unless you're in laurie lightfoot who just got the boot
Starting point is 00:54:37 because they said we are not going to take on gang violence we are not going to take on gun crimes and when you're arrested for one of those you're right back on the street we're not going to take on gun crimes. And when you're arrested for one of those, you're right back on the street. We're not doing cash bail. And there's theory that goes along with why they don't do, why they want to not prosecute, right? So to the left, people that commit crimes, they're victims of society's circumstances. So if they're a victim of society's circumstance and they carry out a crime and they victimize someone else, if you punish the person that carried out the crime you've literally made two victims you've double victimized them so they victimize the person that they attack or whatever but they're already a victim of society so if society punishes them they're a victim again so society is victimizing
Starting point is 00:55:21 them over and over and it's it's creating more crime, according to the left. Now, I think that is a load of crap. But that's the philosophy and the theory behind the idea of no cash bail. Let people out of jail if they've committed petty crimes, etc. So, I mean, whether or not you believe that theory or not, that is the working ideology and why the policies are being implemented the way they are. And the genesis was this farce that they were somehow trying to solve a racial inequity in the criminal justice system by saying, oh, this is unfair to black and brown people. So we have to do a total 180 on supporting anything law and order. You know what the hypocrisy of it all is?
Starting point is 00:56:06 Do you want to know the two individuals have put more black people in prison than any two individuals in American history? Barack Obama. No, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. Kamala Harris, when she was the attorney general of California, imprisoned more black men than any attorney general in the state of California's history. Joe Biden implemented, wrote, and drafted and passed the 98 crime bill which imprisoned more black men for cocaine and crack possession than any crime bill in u.s history was that 98 or 94 98 98 oh yeah and then didn't uh trump worked on uh criminal justice criminal justice reform actual reform actual reform that's funny and he's the racist guy he's a racist like joe
Starting point is 00:56:42 biden's been in also he employed some odd years trump employed a brown guy so he's a racist guy oh yeah well but you know you're the token white guy no the uh are you are you indian is it i'm indian yeah the indian face of white supremacy yeah i want to make sure i got it right larry elder's the black face of white right right that's true that's fair i like that i like that i'll take it it's it's's, look, anyone who pays attention knows that there's a meaningless statement. But the fact that someone falls for the narrative of Larry Elder, blackface of white supremacy, it's like, if you're going to fall for that, I don't know how we, how we communicate with these people and affect change. You can't.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Well, they're voting. You do. You got to be a beacon, a lighthouse, but don't shine the light directly in their eyes because it'll blind them and cause them pain. You got to just be there, a lighthouse, but don't shine the light directly in their eyes because it'll blind them and cause them pain. You got to just be there for when they need you. We need to get the ideologies out of the schools. I think one of the reasons for going up to the schools is to make sure people are so stupid they will always just vote.
Starting point is 00:57:37 100% absolutely. 100%. The more time you spend actually thinking about the dynamics of oppression when you're in math class, the less time you're spending on math. And history. Yeah. That's literally the point. Like they want to have generative issues. They want to have issues that teach politics as opposed to the topic they're supposed to be learning.
Starting point is 00:58:00 And eventually that will turn into like buildings falling down in your society and planes not getting off the ground and chernobyl yeah you need for math it's a language you need people that are like autistically observant of math and not diffused not like distracted by anything really a bad home life people telling you you're racist because of your skin color like you need to be able to do calculations and build buildings. Good point. Real life translation of math is architecture. It's acceptable to teach politics and have kids learn politics, but there are, you don't want to do it in every single class. And that's what the influence of the left is doing. They're using, they're using math and they're using English and they're using, you know, whatever course they can to generate political questions.
Starting point is 00:58:48 That's the whole reason with the LGBT issues in school. They use that to generate political questions among children so they can teach kids political ideology. Corey DeAngelis has been school choices popping off. I'm trying to find some tweets from him But something big happened Now we've got 26-8 vote in Arkansas Senate Passed the governor's bill to fund students instead of systems According to Cory DeAngelis
Starting point is 00:59:13 Passed the house 78-21 Goes to Governor Huckabee That stuff is good And it's not a bad thing But the problem that's going on in our schools now Is in the schools of education so it's all of the teachers so it doesn't matter if you're going with a this school or that school if you're going to the public school or
Starting point is 00:59:32 you're going to the private school if they're all getting teachers that went to the same schools you see with a problem it's if you're your schools of education your schools that teach teachers how to be teachers if they're teaching teachers to use the methods that are critical theories, essentially, then that's going to be put into all of your schools. So whether it's your private schools, your public schools, whatever, they're all corrupted. This might fund homeschooling as well. If someone wants to teach from home, they get $13,000 a year grant or something. That's great. I'm not sure, but hopefully it does.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Let's jump to this story we got from TimCast.com. Daily Wire investigative reporter to resign, citing inflammatory statements on transgenderism. I'll give you the quick version. This is Christina Buttons of the Daily Wire announced she was resigning because Matt Walsh was mean. And that due to his inflammatory comments about Dylan Mulvaney, there were people who are good people and not gender ideologues who are trans, who are receiving a lot of heat from this and getting attacked.
Starting point is 01:00:32 And thus, Christina Button's argument is you've got to try and persuade the middle and convince them to come over. Whereas Matt Walsh's argument is you have to humiliate and denounce and belittle your political enemies this is interesting because uh i completely understand the argument from christina buttons but i'm going to go ahead inside with matt walsh on this one i've been doing this for too long i've been in politics my whole life cultural politics like activism and stuff like that and i used to work for non-profits and i learned a long time ago this is is 13 years ago, man, maybe even longer than that, 14,
Starting point is 01:01:06 they're all lying. These people are evil people at these nonprofits, these big NGOs. They claim to be big environmentalists. They're lying to people for money. They will claim that, they'll say things like, oh, our poor homeless shelter
Starting point is 01:01:20 is filled to the brim with homeless people and we need money from you so that we can expand and then you actually go and look it's completely empty they say well no one really wants to be here because you can't take drugs when you're in the homeless shelter so we just tell people that i'm this is the kind of thing that they pull off plus you need six figure salaries for every board member well i mean i mean the people at the top are getting paid fat cash depending on the size of the non-profit and so matt walsh comes out, you know, we've got to be mean to the people who
Starting point is 01:01:47 are coming these problems. I don't think anyone's saying be mean to trans people necessarily. I take it as a reference to corrupt individuals who are evil. So previously in the show, we were talking about on the left, you have predominantly evil people who know they're lying and ignorant people or people who lack the ability to better understand, people being taken advantage of more or less. We want to denounce and be mean to those evil people. Otherwise, I see stories like this, and it makes me think this is why we lose. Because we just played a video of people ransacking
Starting point is 01:02:22 a restaurant in Queens. We just played a video, I played a video of people ransacking a restaurant in Queens. We just played a video. I played a video this morning of 150 Antifa storming into a government facility, firebombing construction equipment. The left rules by fear and violence, and the right can't even manage to say a naughty word. You know, I think it's better not to be mean to evil people, but to control them so that they do what you want them to do.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Like, they're mob mentality, so it's easy to manipulate them. And you're better off being kind and then them trusting you so that you can control them. Here's the thing. How do you control Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, AOC?
Starting point is 01:03:00 You become friends with her grandson. I don't know. You get through the family. You know, you get to connect them on a familial level. And then they'll listen to you. Manipulate them. For real, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:08 That's how you win culture. I mean, let's be honest. You make a song that manipulates people to sing and clap. And like, it's all manipulation. I don't know about that. I mean, manipulation is not necessarily evil. Manipulation is just moving things around with your hands. It's controlling and manipulating society and people and behaviors and machines and all that stuff here i think it's a fair point for me and we want to manipulate the
Starting point is 01:03:29 culture in a positive direction that's absolutely that's fine but i think i think some of what you're saying at least a central theme in my opinion of what you're saying the reason this is the way it is is because the left no matter their differences they always unify hardcore on whatever is their line of effort or their messaging campaign for the week, the month, the year. Conservatives, Republicans, whatever you want to call them on the other side, don't. We are always a divisive faction, even when we know what everyone else in our group is saying is correct.
Starting point is 01:03:58 For some reason, we have a personal petty difference with them. And they go out and launch an even bigger opposition than the radical left does. Let me show you this story from the New York Post. New York magazine art critic Jerry Saltz calls for shunning friends and family who vote GOP. So let's compare and contrast the two articles. In one, a reporter for the Daily Wire says, I refuse to work at a place where they're mean. I quit.
Starting point is 01:04:21 And then on the other hand, you've got the New York magazine critic saying, shun your friends and family if they vote in ways that you're opposed to. You see the difference in the culture war here? You know, so when Matt Walsh comes out and the meanest that Matt Walsh was, we said you are eerie and pitiable and unearthly. You look plastic. I'm like, he didn't cuss. It was just kind of like a slow downward description of an individual. It was insulting, but it wasn't the most insulting thing. He would not win a rap battle by that. Nobody would be shocked, you know, but it was mean, right? Meanwhile, so you've got tons of people who are critical of Matt Walsh to varying degrees for being mean for saying this.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Yeah. Matt Walsh said you are eerie. You are off putting. When people look at you, they will see something pitiable and plastic. And it was like, that's how he said it. And that that's unacceptable. The right will not accept that. I won't allow that. That talk is mean. Meanwhile, the left is like you firebomb a police car and the judge says you're a good dude that lawyer who fired on the car the cop was like well i know you're a good person at heart so you know we're gonna give you a slap on the arrest terror yeah or if you're a you're a lawyer in the fbi and you're anything but pro trump you can go lie
Starting point is 01:05:39 to a federal judge be convicted as a felon not go to prison and get your legal license back who's that who are you talking about kevin clinesmith yeah oh my gosh he altered the uh email right the the evidence on carter so yeah real quick for those that don't know the critical email when i was doing the investigation was carter page is a russian asset sounds really sexy and be like oh man we really got to follow this guy well it turns out the fbi knew the entire time that carter page was helping the fbi and the cia productively not being spied on and the lawyer at the fbi kevin clinesmith literally took a document and changed the verbiage and then gave it to a federal judge saying i need a warrant carter page is a bad man but we have all this evidence of him actually helping the united states of america
Starting point is 01:06:23 do you guys remember all those stories that we've seen over the past few years where a liberal has announced that they're leaving the left because of Antifa firebombing police vehicles? Tons of Antifa being like, I will not be Antifa. I can't believe they were saying those mean things to those conservatives. Yeah, it happens all the time, right? Literal terrorists. I remember that viral video of the Antifa guy. He comes out and he goes i didn't realize they were going to be firebombing buildings so the joke obviously is
Starting point is 01:06:50 that that's never gonna happen it's never gonna happen there are it's a pipe dream there are liberals who are like i was never really involved but now that i see what they're doing i don't want to be involved in that but you don't typically see although it happens sometimes but you you don't see a circumstance in which an antifa guy shows up to an antifa rally and then leaves saying i didn't realize they were going to throw molotov cocktails they're they're down for it they're all down for it so what do you think the justification of the reasoning is say i don't know if you saw this but the russell brand clip on um bill maher was it bill maher yes wherever it was where he basically blasted
Starting point is 01:07:22 everybody that he had well, we talked about this a couple times. He's wrong. Russell Brand is completely wrong. I should say completely wrong. It's a little heavy. He's mostly wrong. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:07:31 He's partly right. He said MSNBC is like the same as Fox News. They're just as biased. NewsGuard rates Fox News as credible, but pretty with caution. And they rate MSNBC
Starting point is 01:07:40 as crackpot BS. Okay. So when you get an independent news agency that's like the New York Times is the bastion of journalism, the gray lady, and ABC News and CBS
Starting point is 01:07:50 and the Washington Post are 100% certified and MSNBC is crackpot nonsense, don't trust them, and Fox News is okay. And it speaks to your point or it speaks to the broader point that we're making
Starting point is 01:08:02 when Russell Brand just saying this is looked at as serious pushback, and yet at the same time, when you look at the actual facts like NewsGuard and stuff like that, it's like, well, maybe they aren't the same. But just the pushback that Russell gave is enough for people to be like, yeah, man, he's right, because it's so skewed the challenges are you know i understand the idea of saying msnbc is like fox news because i've i've said similar things to friends and family like if you know somebody who watches msnbc use news guard show them that they say it's fake news conspiracy and dismiss them as conspiracy theorists and and and equate them with what they associate as conspiracy so i i was talking to a friend and they were like my family only watches msnbc i can't talk to him about any
Starting point is 01:08:50 of this stuff and i said next time you're you're over there just say something like i don't watch this conspiracy stuff i don't you guys this is weird stuff and then when they say what do you mean it's news like with the alex jones stuff like is that what you're watching equate them with what they dislike they will so they can understand what you're accusing them of doing. And then when you're like, well, I don't know what he does. Isn't that what he's not on that one? No, look, then you can pull up NewsGuard and say, see, look, it says you're fake news. You guys, you got to understand this, right? So I understand the argument from Russell, or I should say in favor of Russell's statement, that for people who think Fox News is completely fake garbage nonsense, you're equating what they do with what they view as fake garbage nonsense. Maybe then
Starting point is 01:09:30 you can step them in the right direction towards actually watching Fox and realizing, you know, 95% of Fox News is really boring, straightforward news. And the only complaints the left has is like Hannity and Ingram. Well, they really don't like Tucker, for sure, but that's just because he's influential. But it's like the opinion stuff they take issue with. The news reporting at Fox News is news. MSNBC doesn't have news reporting. It's all garbled garbage nonsense. I completely agree with you.
Starting point is 01:09:55 It's all narrative. It's all exactly what the narrative that the DNC and the left want to put out. That's what it is. So I think from an honest perspective, any objective view of Fox News would not equate it with MSNBC. So that's where he's wrong.
Starting point is 01:10:12 I agree with you on that. But the fact that guys like him and Bill Maher are actually going out there and basically taking a sledgehammer to a piece of the radical left-wing agenda for putting out the dumb narratives that they put out, I think is a step in the right direction. They're never going to go all the way because they're going to come out and see fox news is the greatest or whatever conservative publication is amazing but at least they're calling out their own bozos but maybe maybe they need to maybe they need
Starting point is 01:10:37 to you know look man i think joe rogan should have endorsed donald trump in 2020 well i think he should endorse him in 2024 but he's not going to that's not maybe in 2020 i Well, I think he should endorse him in 2024, but he's not going to. That's not maybe in 2020. I think it was 2020. He said something like, or maybe it was after he said, I wouldn't vote for Joe Biden because he's he's broken. But I didn't vote for Trump either. Now, recently, Joe said, I would vote for Trump before I would vote for Joe Biden, which is a little bit of a step in the right direction. You really think that he's going to go all the way over? I wouldn't. If someone came to me, like if Joe called me up and said, look, man, here's the truth.
Starting point is 01:11:10 I really did vote for Trump. I'd be like, oh, it hasn't surprised me at all. But I don't. If he says he didn't, then I believe him that he did. And Joe's got no reason to lie or anything like that. I just think anyone who's honestly in this space and especially look, man, I go on. I went on Rogan's show. It was like a year and a half ago now. It was november year and three months uh four months and uh we talked about
Starting point is 01:11:29 ivermectin and i said i i don't think it does what you know the right thinks it does i think that there's a tribal perspective on all of this and they want for there to be some kind of treatment that's natural it fits but i but i but i just don't know. And look, I'll admit, I'm not a doctor, so don't look at me. I'm not a scientist. I've just looked at a bunch of stories. I think the mainstream media is lying about most of it. They call it horse space.
Starting point is 01:11:51 That's BS. But Joe was the other direction. Joe was definitive, like, no, he thinks it works. It's all in, yeah, I remember. And I'm like, if that's where you're at, you're further than I am in terms of distrusting the media and calling it out, why wouldn't you vote for Donald Trump?
Starting point is 01:12:03 Like, certainly you understand and you know. I'll tell you why I didn't vote for Don last time because of the COVID handling, the way he handed the keys to the Anthony Fauci and was like, hey, medical community, do whatever you want to the human race. That's like, dude, you're our last line of defense as the president.
Starting point is 01:12:19 That's, we need you to protect us from corporate malfeasance. And the pharmaceutical industry, if there was ever a malfeasance industry after the opioid crisis, you would wonder, I mean, that's the one, the military industrial complex is up there,
Starting point is 01:12:31 but I don't know. And you cannot speak for him. I know that, but I'm asking you since you work so closely with him, what was the, what was the process? Yeah. No,
Starting point is 01:12:37 this is when I go on the road and do speaking engagements, this comes up every single time. And I was so gay. Rewind the clock. COVID's jumping out i'm deputy director of national intelligence in charge of the intelligence community doing the presidential daily briefing going to brief president trump saying this is what we think happened this is where we think coming from it came from what do you want to do ban travel in
Starting point is 01:12:55 china etc right and what we didn't have fidelity on a lot of fidelity on was what to do right what are we we are in the middle of a once in a century maybe two century uh play and half the world is screaming for us to come up with some cure vaccine whatever you want to call it the other half the world is saying let us live just do what we need to do and what trump did at the time and if i think if you rewind the clock and said we did and i defend operation more speed i ran it at Department of Defense when I was chief of staff. And I defended it because I said we didn't make it mandatory. We gave everybody an option. And the only logistical component on planet Earth that can roll that thing out in the speed with which we did was the DOD.
Starting point is 01:13:38 And I think he was right to make it an option. Do I think, had we the evidence we do now, we didn't know Fauci was like a serial liar and hated everything we did and would just literally suppress evidence. It's like this memo that just came out this week. We had no idea. Had we an inkling of that, we probably wouldn't have listened to it. But look at it this way. What if we were back then, COVID's running rampant, and we do no vaccine? We just sit there. We say, wear a mask, do your ventilator thing, which turned out to be another fake line of effort and do nothing. I don't think it was a win either way,
Starting point is 01:14:11 but I do agree with you. Had we had the intelligence, we should and would have done it very, very differently. I think Trump trusted too many deep state stooges. Yeah, Fauci, right? I mean, that's- Burks Fauci. I mean, bringing on Bolton was mostly a mistake. I say mostly because there's a fair point that I can't remember who brought it up, that when Trump went to negotiate with foreign world leaders and they saw Bolton or heard about that Bolton was on, they panicked and were got out, he got ousted was because he is exposed to be an actual deep stater,
Starting point is 01:14:48 but we just didn't figure that out. And we should have about the Fauci and Berkses of the world ahead of time. And, and that's the problem. It's not a great answer. It's not, it's not what you want to hear, you know,
Starting point is 01:14:57 from your leadership at the time you, we wish we had gotten it all right. But if we had come out and said, don't take, we have no vaccine stay the course live in your homes do nothing i don't know that the reaction would have been different from the other half the podcast was there i i real quick i want to edit it look no matter what the trump administration did during covid the media was coming for him
Starting point is 01:15:19 oh yeah if trump came out on day one and said to the American people, did the address and says, there is a real risk of COVID. We are not sure what the mortality rate is going to be, but it may be very high. Pay attention to local news reports to figure out where we're at. And the federal government will be tracking and addressing this and providing information. But the choice is yours. Keep that in mind as you go shopping, whether you will be safe, whether you will take treatments and talk to your doctor.
Starting point is 01:15:47 And that's the guidance we have for you. If he did that, then the media would report it across the board. Trump abandons America. He's doing nothing. He's doing nothing. We weren't winning. Look, COVID is the extreme example because obviously it's the most impactful for everyday lives around the world.
Starting point is 01:16:02 But pick whatever national security issue I was working on. Trump was always on the wrong side. I was in the Situation Room heading up counterterrorism when we killed Baghdadi, which I thought was the right move to eliminate the world's worst terrorist. We wake up the next morning and CNN writes an article saying, why did you take out a Muslim cleric? Was it Baghdadi that they called an austere scholar? Yeah, it doesn't matter what the issue was.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Had we taken him out? Had we not taken him out? They would have woken up the next day and say, why didn't you take out the world's worst terrorists? You're 100% right. But I want to ask you, moving forward, say he gets elected, right? My biggest criticism with Trump is the people that he picked, right? And I think that that's probably the biggest criticism that trump is the people that he that he picked right and i think that that's probably the biggest criticism that most people are going to have i think that he
Starting point is 01:16:49 dropped the ball that a lot of the the stuff that we're dealing with with the quote-unquote woke people and stuff like that i think that he wasn't on he wasn't on the ball with that stuff and i think that he would be probably better about it but that really will depend on who he appoints because he's the president he's not going to be doing that full-time even though in my opinion that's the the most clear and present threat to the united states right now um is that ideology what do you think he's going to do if he gets elected again and what kind what what do you know what kind of people is he going to appoint now because he he's already run through a whole lot of deep state scumbags to go through i mean
Starting point is 01:17:30 is he going to like try and find fresh you know fresh blood to come in and and actually do serious cuts at the at the federal and bureaucratic so here's the good news and it's thank you so much for allowing me a shameless plug for my book government gangsters because it answers all your questions it's on pre-order at governmentgangsters.com and you didn't pay me to do that yeah but look the deep state cannot exist without the fake news mafia and the personal that you're talking about and the reason that i took so much time to write this book was to answer these questions if trump wins again or anyone wins again how do we get it right and it's personnel personnel personnel across the board but what you have to do is identify what we talked about
Starting point is 01:18:09 early and show the personnel that are failing this government and fire them it's a complete falsehood that you can't fire government employees and terminate them it is a total falsehood of the radical left you can eliminate them that's what i want to say real quick it's not just personnel it's in addition to that the removal of personnel yeah no 100 so when i was at dni i fired 10 of the workforce how did i do that that's a start but the rookie numbers but i'm just saying right that's a start that's a that's a few thousand people but what i'm saying is a it's a farce it's a fictional narrative that they created that you can't zero out these people it's not called straight up firing but you literally zero them out in the course of 31 days not hard to do
Starting point is 01:18:42 then you bring in the bench and i will tell you from a national security, defense, law enforcement, intel perspective, that there are people through all rungs of government that want to serve that America First mission, as Donald Trump describes it, which I believe in. And so you have to install them. And I think the other thing, and I've had many conversations with Donald Trump about this. I said, look, Rod Rosenstein, Chris Wray, all your guys, Bill Barr, your guy, Gina Haspel, your guy, Mark Esper.
Starting point is 01:19:03 I remember being involved in firing some of these people. He has learned. Like he came in as a businessman and said, well, maybe I should trust some of these people in government and some of the traditional Republican people telling me hire X, Y, and Z. Now we know all the people that are on the bad list, on the government gangster list. Like don't ever talk to not only those people that we fired, don't take anyone else from anyone that told you to hire those people.
Starting point is 01:19:27 So not only do we have a definitive in list, we have a definitive out list. And I think it's going to give him a much better footing. And I also think you're going to start seeing certain people surround him that will be in another Trump administration that people are going to be like, OK, we don't have to guess who's going to be the head of DOD, who's going to be head of NSA, who's going to be head of CIA. And I think maybe you'll start seeing some of those outlines come out this is just my opinion but this is one of the things that i think that trump needs to get
Starting point is 01:19:50 his people out there talking about asap he's already admitted that or he's already committed to running so he needs people out there talking about fixing the things in the future because he likes to look at the past and talk about the past and complain too much. Oh, yeah. One thing is the open sourcing of voting. Let me if you're going to be you're advising Trump, advise him to just focus on the culture war issues and the political issues, because the one thing that we've talked about, at least it's true. This is just me. And so everybody can tell me I'm crazy.
Starting point is 01:20:19 But when he goes on and on about 2020, he loses me when he goes to East Palestine and buys Big Macs for people, that is the biggest... It may sound silly, but that Big Mac thing, the McDonald's, gave, in my view, my favorability rating for Trump skyrocketed like 15 points when I saw that. I totally agree. When he put out videos talking about cultural
Starting point is 01:20:40 issues and the things he wants to do, favorability is going way, way up, and I'm very much with Trump at this point. Leaning between Trump and DeS and desantis last year it was like desantis probably got it for a variety of reasons because trump wouldn't shut up about 2020 but now that we're starting to see this this east palestine stuff if he stops ragging on harper on the past and starts being trump from 2016 he's going to give me back or even trump i mean so you have to what i say to everybody is look at the last year right the last year and since donald trump actually made his announcement in November that he's
Starting point is 01:21:06 going to run for president. Getting better. What he's been doing on Truth Social is putting out policy videos. How I'm going to take on China. How I'm going to defeat the CCP. What I'm going to do on the border. What I'm going to do about fentanyl. What I'm going to do about the economy, healthcare, education, policy, substantive videos, not
Starting point is 01:21:19 just saying, oh, Joe Biden's a failure, but highlighting the solutions for that very specifically get him back on twitter i think that's a step in the right that's probably not going to happen i think that's a step in the right direction why no twitter though it's a terrible we'll get to that let me finish that real quick so if he does those policy videos and then the biggest juxtaposition i have is him going to east palestine when our current commander-in-chief joe biden goes to western europe and doesn't have one diplomatic meeting with world leaders to end the conflict in the Ukraine. Not one. No, he gives up money for war. He gives them money to double down and make Ukraine the next Afghanistan for the American people.
Starting point is 01:21:58 That's stark contrast. I agree with you. If Donald Trump does more of that, then he is going to sail into the presidency. Why is he never going on Twitter? Because Donald Trump has Truth Social. That's my opinion. You know, I don't speak for him, but I'm just saying. He should do a thing where it's like a day later, the truth gets posted on Twitter or something.
Starting point is 01:22:16 It may come to that, but I just, my opinion is I don't see it happening. And then what he can do is if he posts a longer truth, he can tweet, hey, go to Truth Social, check out the longer video or whatever. I just want Covifee again. I want to- Right. Do you want to know what Covifee is? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:32 Not today. I want to federate the system. Here's what I think. I think someone was drafting a tweet and then either Trump or somebody accidentally pressed send instead of cancel. That's it. For sure. I mean, that was my guess.
Starting point is 01:22:44 That's probably it. Just coffee with a V in it, right? After the show, I'm going to punish you after the show. The V's right below the F on the keyboard. In the 10 minutes when the show ends, the 10 minutes between when the show ends and the uncensored show begins, Cash is going to just go into this long, tiring
Starting point is 01:22:59 secret of covfefe, swear us to secrecy, and we're going to be like be like whoa i would never tell a soul from when he was nine the reality is i know the two people that know and and it still hasn't come out yet the secret of coffee regarding um the rhetoric on 2020 election that i know don's been going through i call him don's funny donald's been going through like um i think the one good message is to say you know if we're going to tally our votes in secret on machines and private corporations, we need to open source the code so that we know the machines are tallying them justly. Rather than be like what they did was wrong, just be like in the future, we're going to do it right.
Starting point is 01:23:38 We're going to open source these softwares if they're going to be used. I'd like to see that. I also had a couple ideas. Paper and pencil. Well, that's what he said at CPpec he wants paper ballot voter id and he said go big on mail ballot harvesting whatever the verb yeah but it's just so hackable all that stuff is hackable if it's in paper they're like yeah i'll take your thousand votes and trust me i'll make sure they're all counted wink wink it's never see the guy again except but that's safer than something
Starting point is 01:24:03 that's nebulous and can't be seen. Yes, it is safer than proprietary voting machines doing calculations in private when you don't have access to the code. It is safer than that, but it's equally, it's just as insecure in a macro scale when you could have things like blockchain reference, nine blockchains of voting reference where you can verify. There isn't currently the blockchain that's been developed and tested that would make people feel like it's safe you may be able to do it like technologically the technology may be there but just because the technology is there doesn't mean that you'd be able to implement it in the real world and have the population feel all right i just want to say one thing real quick donald trump should fly around to a bunch of random cities and buy mcdonald's
Starting point is 01:24:43 for people. Yeah. I mean, you should come out with Shark Tank with you guys. What makes you think that's not going to happen? I'm not saying it's not going to happen. I'm saying like he should. I mean, I'm loving it. I, yes, I'm loving it. Very nice, Phil.
Starting point is 01:25:00 It's just like Trump showing up with a bunch of regular people who are all smiling and happy to see him. And he's like, let's have Big Macs. You asked me. That's awesome. I think Phil or maybe it wasan asked me before the show you know why did you run so hard um on the donald trump agenda maybe that was oh no that was me that was me and and and the simple answer is when you're with him uh my mission was national security defense intel law enforcement mission he's that guy he's the guy that you sit down with and talk about killing terrorists, bringing home Americans, safeguarding America in a very casual fashion but serious. And no matter what, he's going to defend that to the end.
Starting point is 01:25:33 And then you're going to eat McDonald's afterwards. And it's just – I don't know how else to describe it. He's not this bombastic guy who goes over there and like lobs people's heads off or anything like that. When he calls me and I talk to him, he still asks me about my mom and my dad, like every time. And then he takes the time to meet them. I mean, I don't know that every president does that with everybody else. I'm just giving you my experience
Starting point is 01:25:51 and how I saw him act with my other friends around that universe. And that's just how he is all the time. I went to Trump Tower when he was running in New York. I've been there a bunch of times. They got pretty good food there and ice cream and stuff. And so he's running and the media is going crazy and insulting him and i was at the ice cream stand or whatever or like the bagel shop and i asked him i was like have you ever seen trump around here and like yeah he comes down every so often and i was like oh is he cool
Starting point is 01:26:16 and they're like he just hands us hundred dollar bills and i was like yeah oh really he'll just come down like here you go and give me a hundred dollar bill i'm like oh that's awesome and he says sometimes he'll bring the staff out, thank them all, shake their hands and hand them a hundred dollar bills. That's very, that reminds me of like the gangster movie stuff from like back in the day. Not that I have like personal experience with it, but it's like, that's the stuff you would Look, I've seen it. When you go to his properties, whatever Trump National this, that, or the other thing, you're
Starting point is 01:26:39 talking about people who have been employed there for 15 and 20 years. And he goes up to the the lawn care guys the kitchen guys the maintenance guys and everybody knows him on a first name basis and i'm like okay that's not manufactured that can't just be made up that has to exist over a period of a lifetime and that's how he treats people i knew a guy a long time ago in chicago and he said that when when they were open in the trump hotel in chicago he was dropping something off i can't remember what he was doing but he he told me the story that he was walking towards the door and he heard people behind him.
Starting point is 01:27:09 And he gets to the door and he looks. He holds the door open and it was Trump with some people. Trump walks through the door and says, hey, thanks, kid, and throws him an iPod. And this was back when iPods were expensive. Like the thing, yeah. Yeah, but he was like, thanks for holding the door for me. Here's a $500 MP3 player or something like that.
Starting point is 01:27:24 He's done all... here's the thing. He'll never tell you about these – he could write a book about all these things. The media would excoriate him. But that's not his style. He's not like, oh, remember when I did this and this and this. He's been doing it for 76 years. That's why it's so crazy how – I mean just – look, I literally go to Trump Tower in New York and just ask people and they were like, he's awesome. And I've been to Trump Doral. I stayed stayed there a couple times because it was near where i was
Starting point is 01:27:47 working with for fusion same thing everyone's like when he's here it's awesome and i'm like huh then then why do people like act like he's so evil i don't understand media i think yeah it's liberal economic order is trying to turn into the world economic order they're trying to create the new world order and they had a plan for the last 30 years and he was like a wrench in the gears didn't realize it i think you're onto something there. He's a nationalist. He believes in America. He's patriotic. He's an old school Democrat that believes that borders are a thing. And the modern left is moving away from nations. They really think that they can use things like the UN,
Starting point is 01:28:26 the World Economic Forum, the International Monetary Fund to basically create a super government that controls the governments of the world. And the United States is not insulated from that at all. We should be, and we can be. And I think whether it be actually Donald Trump or someone like Donald Trump that believes in nations and stuff, I think that a president like that can influence the U.S.
Starting point is 01:28:52 But right now, the people that are running the narrative and that are running the country and dictating the narrative, they believe in an international order that should supersede individual countries and nations. As you were talking, Bernie Sanders came to mind because he's kind of a nationalist in a way. A bit more socialist than Donald Trump. Bernie's a nationalist socialist. Yes, he sure is. Have you guys considered getting Donald and Bernie together? Oh yeah, on a daily basis over ice
Starting point is 01:29:19 lattes in the morning. Just patch it up. High five. I remember him being like, oh no, Donald Trump's bad, bad, i'll support joe biden instead uh because i don't know why bernie might run for president oh hell yeah dude bring it on you see what just happened today we was the other day was asked by bill maher about equity versus equality and he said uh i can't tell you the difference i don't know it i don't know that and then he was like i think i'm for equality but and then jenka huger comes out and he's like, of course he's for equality. No one's for equity.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Meanwhile, like Joe Biden came out, was like equity. Every HR department says equity. It's plastered in every university. So are they retreating from this stuff now because it's not popular? That tweet by Cenk Uygur is the most valuable weapon on Twitter right now to push back against the equity movement because he has demonstrated very clearly the martin bailey argument the the martin bailey fallacy he backed away into the no we're talking about equality when for the past five or whatever years everybody's been equity equity equity and equity means good
Starting point is 01:30:25 equal outcomes as opposed to equality which means equality under the law he has given a weapon to people that are involved in the culture war that has not been seen in a while but you don't need to call him out and bail you can just be like no jenki agrees with us the progressive young turks agrees that equity is the prize is not where we want to be at. And equality of opportunity is the real goal. And so when anybody comes out and says equity, be like, equity? Aren't you a fan of Bernie Sanders? Bernie Sanders
Starting point is 01:30:53 says equality, not equity. Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks says equality. Bernie is the dude. Bernie said equality, not equity on Bill Maher. And he clearly said equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome. That's equity. Look, we won. There you go. Bernie Sanders said it. It's going to be his campaign slogan. Don't get, when you're arguing, when you're debating family and friends, you don't want to be acrimonious. I'll put it that way. You want to be calm and just say, you know, look, look,
Starting point is 01:31:22 I know we might disagree, but I'm with Bernie Sanders this one i i i don't know if you're a fan of bernie sanders but he went on bill maher and said we don't want equity we want equality of opportunity ever in a debate or discussion with someone that you know long term and they offer you a seed a seed plant the seed i just say this let it grow because that will be a reminder in that conversation forever that you guys agree on something all right i'm not gonna sit here and be like jen kuger is bad and bernie sanders is bad i'm going to say this oh i agree with jen and i agree with bernie sanders they are both 100 correct equality is the appropriate response not equity but equality of opportunity because equity is equality of outcome about a different type of equality no but yeah yeah yeah. Maybe they're abusing the word.
Starting point is 01:32:05 Look, I'm a Bernie supporter in this regard. You know, when he said, you know, you guys might be Trump supporters, but when it comes to, you know, Bernie Sanders come out, oh, I'm, I'm, there, there you go. So now you can tell all your lefty friends that you're a Bernie supporter because he said equality of opportunity. But Bernie charges $95 a head for his new book tour. Does he really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Just started. Good for him. and it's called good solid capitalism it's called the it's okay to hate capitalism tour or something like that yeah yeah look look my point is just this uh take it to a positive level and think about the gifts you've been given you're right phil that that what jenks said is weapon, but you simply need to say, well, don't you agree with Bernie Sanders and the Young Turks on this one? And then if they say no and be like, then who are you agreeing with if not Bernie Sanders?
Starting point is 01:32:53 Like, he's the dude, right? No, you don't think so? What are you, a Nazi or something? What are you, a Democrat, like Hillary Clinton supporter? Fascist? No, what was it? I'm the Indian neo neo-nazi no the indian face of white supremacy i want to ask about more about well we gotta go to covid yeah we gotta
Starting point is 01:33:11 go we gotta move this along we're gonna go to super chats my friends it is my birth week adrian curry was like you get one day well no it's it's look i have a whole week it is the year well your birth year i am going to milk it for all it's worth to ask you all to become members at TimCast.com because it's my birth week. Thursday's my birthday. But we're going to have a members-only show with Cash coming up after the show.
Starting point is 01:33:34 It'll be live around 10, 10 p.m. So check it out. It should be fun. We'll talk a lot more about what's, you know, what's happening and what's going to happen. And I'm going to curse. He's going to swear a lot. But yeah, become a member at TimCast.com.
Starting point is 01:33:48 Go to TimCast.com, click join us, sign up. Live show will be around 10.10. You'll see it on the front page of the website. But let's read your super chats. Smash the like button. And I'm not your buddy, guy, says, I wish you and your crew the best of luck. Personally, I've lost hope in, is it CA, Canada?
Starting point is 01:34:06 Especially after they arrested yet another pastor not far from me you know that song mad world it hits too close to home yeah it's duran duran yeah no no no no no it's uh not duran duran roland orzabal tears for fears am i right tears for fears i believe yes i think that's yeah yeah. And then the... Roland Orzabal's solo album, by the way. Tomcat Screaming is incredible. Oh, incredible. Rogue says, Tim, you need to play the board game Secret Hitler. It's extremely relevant today. Maybe you and the crew can play a live stream game.
Starting point is 01:34:34 We haven't. And we've played it every so often. For those that aren't familiar, it's basically a werewolf game. You ever play werewolf? Nope. Werewolf is a party game where everybody sits at a table
Starting point is 01:34:44 and puts their head down. One person's storyteller this uh you can do it with cards or you can write down tick tags and then you get a certain number of people are villagers and then one person's the werewolf and then the point of the game is everyone puts their heads down the storyteller says the werewolf looks up and then you know looks down or whatever and the goal of the game is for everybody to rise up and try and figure out who the werewolf is and if they don't the werewolf gets to remove one player secret hitler is a game where everyone's given a role either liberal or fascist because the only thing that exists apparently and then uh the in order for the fascists to win they need to enact a certain number of fascist policies and then for the liberals to win they need to enact a certain number of fascist policies and then for the liberals to win they
Starting point is 01:35:25 need to enact liberal policies or assassinate hitler and the way it works is you get a chancellor and a president someone gets nominated everybody votes or something like that and then if the people person gets elected i think if hitler gets elected chancellor or something the fashion's over yeah something like that but you you uh we'll get three tiles and then you pass the tiles the president passes them to the chancellor and and then the chancellor picks one. And then what happens is if you get handed three fascist tiles, you're like, uh-oh, what am I supposed to do with this? And you hand two, and the guy looks at you, and he's like, why did you just give me two fascist ones? Are you Hitler?
Starting point is 01:35:58 Are you the fascist? And then you play, and everyone says, why did you play a fascist one? You're like, it was all I was given. Don't blame me. Blame him. And then everyone's trying to figure out who's really lying and who's telling the truth it's a fun game there's a game called uh mafia that's very similar to that we i used to we played that my buddies in unearth and mad ball when we were on the sounds of the
Starting point is 01:36:15 underground tour we played that all over europe it was a ton of fun dude i love mafia it's the same game yeah it's a different skin basically yeah you can tap on the head and on the shoulder to decide. So you don't need cards or anything. Yeah, the bass player from Madball, Hoya, super nice guy. And he was always like, yo, let's go. We're going to play Mafia, yo. Get an odd number. Get an even number so you can have an odd number of players in one game.
Starting point is 01:36:38 Yep. All right. Jazzonaut says, Tim Pool is evolving into Alex Jones before us. They're turning the freaking frogs gay. They're coming for your income tax. That'd be a fun Cast Castle skit if they could pull it off where you like Incredible Hulk into Alex. Don't go in the building. We actually have to get Alex.
Starting point is 01:36:56 And then it's like, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry. And then it's Alex who rips his shirt off. I think I'll just be down for it. We're doing that show in Austin with Luke, Blair, Alex Stein, Alex Jones, Michael Malice. It's going to be a whole lot of fun. Should be a good time. That's April 14th? April 14th. Yeah, and the event sold out in like two days.
Starting point is 01:37:17 So, yikes. Should be fun, though. And there'll be a follow-up show April 15th that I'll be at as well. Theoden, King of the brohan says did you see that west virginia is portrayed as the heart of the confederacy in the new mel brooks history of the world show every record has been destroyed or falsified every book rewritten i mean i think west virginia split off from virginia on purpose west virginia was pro-union and uh it was funny i was reading that it's wind oh there was a vote in west virginia counties
Starting point is 01:37:47 to secede from virginia but all of the young men were away fighting in the war so the vote was held by people who were not fighting in the war that's how it works i guess history yeah and then virginia only we learned that in school virginia sued after the war saying now the war is over west virginia is virginia and the supreme court said nope it's a new state shut your mouth now it's best virginia now it's it is best virginia all right let's see we got equal sign says tim you and ian mentioned magic the gathering and poker the other day ever heard of aces and adventures it's a steam game that combines the two you might like it thank you we were actually talking about a card game that uh combines elements of i don't necessarily want to say poker but a turn-based community board magic game that's focused on a
Starting point is 01:38:32 single deck of cards so that you don't need deck building and it's a bit more random and combines elements of deception so i guess you could call it that but uh you were talking about i'll look at aces and adventures would be nice if it was an actual card game did you hear ian about the 250 000 of the magic cards left in a dumpster no or a landfill sorry no boxes what now boxes of magic the gathering cards were found just in a dumpster and then the bulldozer bulldozers smashed them up and just destroyed them and everyone's like oh that's so sad and i'm kind of like if you think it's worth $250,000, pieces of paper smashed in a landfill, I got something to tell you. It's not worth that at all. Like the fact that someone threw it out and it was loaded into a landfill proves it was not worth that.
Starting point is 01:39:14 And I think this is an example of the decay in culture. Magic, secondary market, these trading cards with a lot of money. I think it's been corporatized and gone woke to the point where they're becoming worthless. Literally worthless, not worthless, you know. We'll see, though. We'll see. I've been hearing nothing but complaints about what Hasbro's been doing to the game, so that sucks. Used to be a big fan.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Wayback says, I already have a Timcast membership, so here's an extra 10 bucks. I'm really looking forward to see what Tucker says tonight. It's going to break the Uniparty's brains. Is he releasing more video? I believe so, right? Cool. Well, we'll see. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:39:50 Let's grab some more super chats. All right. And where's Seamus at for that matter? Did you guys see he put out a short on Freedom Tunes, a preview of the upcoming video for which I am doing the voice of Dr. Fauci? And I think it's really funny. So this one's got to be really great on Thursday. Really excited.
Starting point is 01:40:07 All right. SA Federali says, Surge is full on Bolton bro today. Let the bros loose on your swatters. What would Javier Pena do? The Bolton bros. Yeah, shouts out. Rash says, Tim, in earlier segments, you talk about the death of culture. And while you are building it, maybe you should look to invest in other people's ideas of books and games through some shark tank style
Starting point is 01:40:28 pitch and that is from wrath hence i discussed that idea after i saw that super chat doing some kind of shark tank type thing and uh yeah somebody super chatted saying we'll need clear rules and a judging criteria to award the grant because it will be viewed as like a sweepstakes or a contest. And works for me. You know what I was thinking we'll do? Why don't we just do a YouTube show where we will like take submissions, have a judging criteria,
Starting point is 01:40:56 maybe what we can get is like five advisors, you know, independent, so outside of TimCast, will come in and they make the determination, we don't but we then go and film so let's say it's like you you know uh and for the people cash you guys say out of everyone we saw we think this is the guy then we go film knocking on the door with the check written out you know printed out to the person for their idea and then being like and that's a show
Starting point is 01:41:23 and then the show is they talk about their idea you know we explain why they won and why we want to succeed and then we cross our fingers that we hope you know it works out good luck a big part of what makes shark day grand is when they will rip people apart with bad ideas i mean it's very entertaining and it may it keeps that'll be that'll be your job it keeps it honest it okay it keeps it honest because then when they are good they're not lying you know the same with all those dance, not dancing shows, whatever that guy does. Simon. Yeah, there you go. We'll have like somebody apart is like people watch it and they're like, oh.
Starting point is 01:41:51 Some little old lady will walk in and she'll be like, I just need some money so I can make my comic book. And Ian's just like, you are terrible. You disgust me. And the art's not even good. She like makes a batch of cookies and they're like Trump face cookies. And she's like, I want to open a Trump bakery.
Starting point is 01:42:11 And Ian's like, ah, and he slaps the tray of cookies out and she's like flying in the air. everyone that comes on the show would get a guaranteed $5,000 or something. And then you'd be looking for the person to give like a big.
Starting point is 01:42:20 I think, I think what we would do is we would request submissions. Then we would have an external group handle the judging criteria. So we would not be involved in who wins. And then whoever they determine is the winner, based on how the outside group votes, we
Starting point is 01:42:34 would then show up. As part of their submission process, they would agree that we can film them. If they win, we'll show up at their house. And then we show up at their house, knock on the door, and be like, we got money for you. Film it. Maybe we just come with cash and start making it rain. That's actually always good.
Starting point is 01:42:50 Yeah. And then, you know. Grab the machines from Pop Culture Crisis. Oh, yeah. The pop. Yeah. Or I will be tomorrow, by the way. Brett and Mary show up, and they're standing there holding the money guns. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:59 But real dollars as opposed to the fake ones. Real hundos. Yep. Yep. Yeah, I think we'll look into the legalities of it, but probably an external group judging. That's intros. The camera pans down with you on a circular platform that's spinning around. You're like, oh, and the money's shooting out at an angle.
Starting point is 01:43:17 I think it should be you. Like a genie. It'll be me. I think it should be Ian. Yeah, I'll be like the Ryan. What's that guy's name from American Idol? I think it should be called like ian crossland's cash money gift show or something okay dude roll with it yeah uh ryan what's his name seacrest yeah seacrest
Starting point is 01:43:31 i'll be the ryan seacrest on this one and you'll have to explain why their cultural project deserves the money and then in order to deliver the money to them you have to just hold the money gun and spray them with it and be like i'm sorry it's the show rules i have to do it it'll take about 30 seconds close your eyes. It hurts less. And then we just film the person that's like getting sprayed with money. And it's like, sorry,
Starting point is 01:43:51 I know it's a mess, but you know, at least you got $10,000. So it was a good video. Like who wants to be a millionaire? That real intense intro where the lights go down and then back up. Yeah, we could make them as we can make.
Starting point is 01:44:02 I just look over the monitor. I say, Ian, see Ian make, pretending like he's got the money gun to his head. can make him answer trivia questions like my hands a game show oh actually that's a good idea too yeah game show well one of the ideas we had was doing a game show where you get a liberal and a conservative and you ask them basic news questions that's good you could do that like a man on the street kind of thing or are you talking that's actually true
Starting point is 01:44:24 you could be like for 10 bucks10, you know, question. And then when they say the wrong thing, like, oh, sorry. I mean, it's springtime in D.C. coming. That's great. But what we could do is we get a local D.C. resident and a local West Virginia resident. And then you see who knows more about the news. You'll get some like mountain right-wing nut job with like a trump shirt and a trump hat and then you'll get some like buttoned up north face jacket wearing dude from dc and then you'll be like in
Starting point is 01:44:52 2020 donald trump said what about neo-nazis and white nationalists and then they write down their answer and then the dc guys like he praised them and called them very fine people and the d and the washington and the west virginia guys like he said they should be condemned totally you're like west virginia takes it and then you like hand him a hundred dollar bill i think it's a great idea well i i gotta be honest i firmly believe that if you did a liberal versus conservative trivia show the conservatives would win every single time i think it's probably hands down 100 like okay i'm being a little hyperbolic it'd be like 80 20 probably yep all right let's grab some more super chats super chats not regular chats super chats and
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Starting point is 01:46:18 Thanks, brother. Mr. Jarvis says, I'm working on a podcast as you're talking. Well, you know, here's the thing, though. Podcasts are good. Podcasts are good. That's your wheelhouse. Yeah, what do you tell him on something? Well, no, it's like we can't just be complaining about stuff. You have to have solutions. So,
Starting point is 01:46:33 listening to a show that discusses issues and culture isn't... We need to go beyond that. We have a lot of those. Daily Wire's got six of them. Steven Crowder, me, you got Sex, Hex, and Hammer and hammer you got the lotus eaters podcast we're all talking about this stuff and a certain point we're like we get it y'all mostly agree what we need is someone to make a comic book i mean and we have that we have ripper verse you know obviously you've got people
Starting point is 01:46:58 who are working on books and music and stuff like that that's important i mean phil labonte literally sitting right here yes sir i have to and and that's that's extremely important i mean storied career rock star phil labonte is sitting here doing the inverse of it from making culture to commenting on and still creating risk for yourself in that space as well sure i mean but and and and i appreciate the kudos but like you know the making culture and making music is still something that I, you know, am actively doing where we've got the next record I've decided, I've already decided on a title that, you know, is intentionally not going to be something that sounds super metal, but it's going to be something that gives people hope.
Starting point is 01:47:40 And I'm not writing songs that are negative. I'm not writing songs that are depressing. I'm not writing songs that are depressing. Our biggest record is this record. Well, arguably our biggest record is a record called The Fall of Ideals. And even though it has kind of a negative sounding title, all the songs that are not about chicks, which is about half of it, are about self-empowerment. Like they're all, there's a song called The Air That I Breathe. And there's a song called Not Alone. There's a song called This Calling.
Starting point is 01:48:03 There's so many songs about that. And that's something that I have done throughout my whole career is try to write songs that inspire people to believe in themselves. And that's something that I think is important. Hopefully that's something that... But whether you write music or have a successful show
Starting point is 01:48:19 or have a foundation or what have you, you put out these ideals, just prepare to be attacked. Absolutely. They're going to come after you. Well, that's the thing. I mean, you know, I imagine if you just keep your mouth shut, Phil, you'd have way more people in music offering you stuff, but you speak out challenging the BS and you put risk on yourself. Any of the politically motivated people in the music industry hate my guts. I've lost friends.
Starting point is 01:48:44 Which is most of the people in there, right? Well, no, there are, there are some people that are like, no, I don't want to be political. And there are actually more people now that are like, yo, you were right. You know, I shouldn't, we should, we shouldn't have been so hard on you or whatever, blah, blah, blah. You know, we should, we shouldn't have been pushing you out and stuff. But there's so many people that are ideologically motivated, just like every other part of our culture right now. Just like we talk about the FBI, there are normal people in the FBI, and then there are people that are extremely ideological.
Starting point is 01:49:15 That's the same in the music industry. It's a little more heavily tilted to the left in the music industry. But there were blogs that were tearing me apart in 2012 2013 because i had the audacity to say things that like you know communism's bad what's crazy what was your what was your biggest song like the most successful or there's two that are probably our big two that are our biggest individual songs there's a song called two weeks and there's a song called what if i was nothing both of those songs are about chicks i was i was i was thinking that those are the ones i was thinking of and i was like you mentioned the ones that aren't about chicks i'm like the ones about
Starting point is 01:49:51 chicks the big ones they tend to be because they they they can relate and also they're they're they're the songs that i wrote about real things that happen so they're very raw and so people can really relate when i'm like it's not like it was some kind of abstract thing like they're both about actual arguments that i had with people that i really really really had very deep feelings for so they're really raw and that stuff tends to relate with let's read i want to read a super chat dylan hale says holy crap 10k that could pay for my whole book series editor art and all they've been working 50 hours a week to pay for it all piecemeal an opportunity like this would be life-changing what's the best way for dylan to get in touch with us do you think he could they could message you ian doubtful i mean you can you want me to pass it on to somebody well i don't i don't know how like if yeah i don't know
Starting point is 01:50:40 how to get in touch with a direct super chat it's a challenge like how could we how could we how can we send dylan hale 10 grand for his book well Dylan should submit a business proposal and um to like is there like a general inbox
Starting point is 01:50:51 that you can go pull it out of for someone to look at no we don't have anything set up yet just to get information you can send a DM
Starting point is 01:50:57 my Twitter account if you want that works yeah DM me I'm Phil that remains on Twitter send me a DM and I can get
Starting point is 01:51:02 the information to Tim Dylan Hale they're open yeah my DM to Tim. Dylan Hale. They're open? Yeah, my DM's open. So Dylan Hale, if you are listening, contact philvetremains on Twitter and then he will get the message to me. The challenge for me is that if I tell you to email me, I'll get 8,000 emails by tomorrow and I won't be able to go through any of them.
Starting point is 01:51:20 Yeah, I get that. Everyone else can follow me too, you know. Yeah, philvetremains. So Phil will have to go through the 8,000 emails. DMs. The Yeah, I get that. Everyone else can follow me, too. Yeah, Phil that remains. So Phil will have to go through the 8,000 emails. DMs. The 8,000 DMs. And then Dylan,
Starting point is 01:51:29 we'll send you 10 grand. And don't do like you do. Count Danky Lynn, send me pictures of your testicles. Uh-oh. Please don't do that. Why would you say that? Here's all the targets.
Starting point is 01:51:38 Because Dank gets it all the time. So I'll say this. Assuming you are working on a book and we think the book is not a porno. Yeah, it's like a valuable cultural thing, which I assume it is. Assuming you are working on a book and we think the book is something. It's like a valuable cultural thing, which I assume it is. We'll send you the 10 grand to help you make it. And then we will do that as a statement of we are fully intending to invest in culture and give back to help these projects take off and then win the culture war.
Starting point is 01:51:59 I want to make sure it's not vaporware. You've got to prove it. Exactly. Because everybody is going to try and pull off some kind of like oh yeah i'm working on something give me money they see me at the casino you know i'm working on your mom but if it's a book about graphene i think ian will just you know automatically yeah we should start pulling carbon dioxide out of the air and turning it into graphene we're gonna be like number one seller tomorrow ian you're in charge of the show where we invest in cultural products like yeah
Starting point is 01:52:21 hey okay and then every proposal is graphene hair. Like, this guy's graphene. Hair products. Graphene guitars. See? What else is there? Oh, I'm not wearing my graphene shirt. I have one. Ian, do you have any proposals
Starting point is 01:52:31 that aren't about graphene? And he's just like, I hope not. The paper is like, uh. Nine out of ten books just went out the window. On graphene paper, by the way. Wait, wait, hold on.
Starting point is 01:52:40 This one is about a guy who wants to do a podcast about graphene. Whoa. So it's not literal graphing. Sold. But yeah, so Dylan, if you're listening, you can message Phil. That remains on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:52:52 The Fluffy Hobo Show says, I've been working on getting a daily show going. So the idea of a Tim Grant sounds awesome. Maybe look at making it an investment rather than a gift or donation. It depends. We could totally do investments, and that would be fantastic as well. So that actually might make sense. We might just do it as like an investment because then it makes more sense business-wise.
Starting point is 01:53:12 Depends. And I would say this. As for whatever we end up doing, it will strongly lean not towards commentary or like talk shows because we got a lot of those already. We're literally one. What we need is probably game design that's huge make video games that um have values of meritocracy none of these weird games where it's like walking simulator stuff like the metaverse
Starting point is 01:53:38 oh that's creepy but uh comic books movies short films you know that kind of stuff i'm sure there's a bunch of other clothing design would be cool yeah clothing design cartoons uh skate culture stuff skateboards whatever yeah cartoons freedom tunes like stuff you know whatever if you build like if you're in architecture and you build stuff that's pretty cool yeah yeah absolutely i mean who knows we might be surprised by the stuff that people present to us and be like we never even considered that could be a thing to do and let's do it you know maybe you want to build a statue yeah i was just thinking like maybe there's someone out there that's like a really nasty sculptor you know yeah sculptor not sculpt and then we can like
Starting point is 01:54:16 you know one idea we had was we wanted to crowdsource buying uh a big plot of land like 200 acres and then creating like a public space where people can put things in like a park of some sort, privately owned public space. Like a giant time capsule? No, no, just like a space. We were like, everybody would buy a plot of the land, a piece of it.
Starting point is 01:54:37 Oh, I see, okay. And it would be a community-owned thing where anyone could go and build statues and just make a big park. That way we control cultural spaces. All right, what do we got? Gigoku says, Tim, there were two guys who killed a bald
Starting point is 01:54:51 eagle with the intent on eating it. They were let go and the feds let them go. That's a felony. Yeah, there you go. That's a felony. Nicholas Button says, question about the money. I'm from Australia. I take pity on you and I'm currently working on a classless TTRPG. Tabletop role-playing game uh classless sci-fi dnd and i was wondering if i'd be able to apply or would the money only be applicable to those in the usa i'm not entirely
Starting point is 01:55:15 sure it depends on the legality of it so it sounds like someone already mentioned we'll need judging criteria to make it a contest and then i imagine we would have outside advisors choose who the winners are. So it wouldn't be anything related to us. So there's no collusion or anything like that. But I don't see why Australia couldn't, you know, win or whatever. If you're a member of the show, if you watch the show and you're supporting us, I don't see why you wouldn't be eligible. But I could call my lawyer tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:55:40 He might be like, no, no, no, no, no. Only Americans. There might be laws in Australia, You know, things like that. We'll see. For all I know, I call my accountant and my lawyer and they say, are you nuts? You can't do that. And then I'm like, really? You know, there's a way forward.
Starting point is 01:55:54 There's a way forward. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think it's that complicated because. Yeah, I think if it's like a month, if you're a member of the site, you can submit, you know, ideas. Maybe we do as an investment and then that's completely straightforward. There's always a way to do it. Well, excuse me.
Starting point is 01:56:11 My allergies are kicking my butt. Pollination. Yeah, it's bad. It was pollen. But look, we figured it out, right? We were like, how do we help whistleblowers? Oh, let's go pay whistleblowers. The lawyers are like, you can't go pay the whistleblowers.
Starting point is 01:56:23 Okay, so how does the foundation pay whistleblowers the lawyers are like you can't go pay the whistleblowers okay so how does the foundation help whistleblowers they said once they're established and come forward with proven information that they submit to congress you can provide them with financial assistance i think investment makes it the easiest thing possible that if you it's the same thing right like a one percent stake for ten thousand dollars or whatever and then the best part is you get some ridiculous evaluation based on that investment. Or they submit their final product to you and they say, this is what we want to do. And then you're like, oh, you're a winner. Here, go fund
Starting point is 01:56:52 your already completed product. I think if we get something in exchange, we don't got to worry about rules or anything like that. You call it Tim Funding. Oh, well, that's different. Yeah. Yeah. If we say like, we'll take 5% or 1%. Well, that's what the Shark Tank guys do, right? Right. They take a piece of the action.
Starting point is 01:57:06 Then it's just submit it to your ideas and maybe we'll invest. Well, if it's a nonprofit, then I think the only other thing you got to do if you're doing Shark Tank for nonprofits, then what do you do with the percentage you have? Well, no. TimCast is a for-profit company. No, TimCast. So I'm saying if we just did it as if the company just invested in it, then that's the easiest way to do it probably. And that makes the most business sense. We're not just throwing money at people and saying good luck.
Starting point is 01:57:25 But it is a lot of liability for the company if it takes on more investments. Sort of. Owning a piece of a company, yeah. We're going to talk to the lawyer about it for sure. But maybe we'll have to make a company that does holdings specifically for this. Some kind of culture war. You know, I bet between the two of us, you probably more than me, know enough rich people to create a culture war investment fund. I'm in. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:57:51 Yeah. I'm not kidding. I'll call five donors tomorrow. Yeah, let's do it. And then we'll try and figure out how to invest more into people who are building culture. And it doesn't take a lot. Like these guys are saying on your super chats, 5, 10 grand, that's a lot of money to get someone going on just a little project.
Starting point is 01:58:07 And some of the bigger projects would be like 20, 25 grand. Really what it comes down to is, Oscar Gonzalez real quick asks, is it only eligible to the US? I think the answer is no, but we'll see. I gotta talk to the lawyers. But the simple thing is,
Starting point is 01:58:21 we may get 100 submissions. We may eventually fund 100 projects. Only one of them works. That's the reality. It's a scattershot. Someone writes a song, and then it just takes off, and we're like, we did not think that was going to be the one. I mean, actually, Phil, has it happened to you guys? Like, you think one song is going to be the hit, and then it turns out the other song was the hit?
Starting point is 01:58:40 So there's this song that people are very familiar with called six from a record called the fall of ideals and that was the first song that we ever put on a video game they called me up i'm like 30 years old they're like yo we're gonna put your song in a video game i'm like that is the coolest thing that i have heard in my life and i figured it was gonna be the single the song called this calling and they're like we're gonna do six i'm like you know that song starts with double bass a blast beat and me screaming my head off and they're like yes i'm like you're crazy but that's awesome i just want it on a video game and then the song turned and became huge huge huge i've heard a bunch of stories from people who are like this was the song we thought was going to be the
Starting point is 01:59:17 one yeah yep and then for some reason it was this one we thought was like a b-side actually i think a good example of that is uh metric the song black sheep i guess the story i could be getting this wrong but it was in scott pilgrim versus the world and they were asked by uh the people making the movie if they had a song they could use and they said well here's one we weren't going to put on the album it didn't fit and now it's their biggest song so it's like you never know anyway that's the point though. We'll take a bunch of investments and the reality is maybe your idea doesn't take off.
Starting point is 01:59:48 That's the unfortunate reality. But eventually, someone's going to hit it and then we're going to start winning that culture war. So Sergeant Beck wants to call it Go Fund Yourself. Maybe call it Tim Fund Me.
Starting point is 01:59:59 No, Go Fund Yourself is good. That's great. Go Fund Yourself. All right, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel,
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Starting point is 02:01:24 And listen, chat, even if I don't wear the white hat anymore, I still already purchased it, all right? Wait, Phil, we gotta get you on Truth Social. I'm philatremains on Truth Social as well. Oh, there you go. I think I need to get a Truth Social account. I might've talked to you about that. Maybe I have one, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:01:37 We'll set it up. What's up, everybody? Ian Crossland here. Remember, when you're building culture, it can be a little confusing, like how do I do that? But when a culture grows, it's because there are things in it that are
Starting point is 02:01:45 duplicating. So you want to make the thing. Focus on the thing. Focus on the song or the chair or the house. Whatever you're building. And the culture is the result of the growth of that. So keep building stuff. I'll see you later. Yeah. That was cool.
Starting point is 02:02:01 Cool show. Yeah. I hope you guys follow me on Twitter. I never thought I'd have 5,000 people following me on Twitter. It's kind of crazy. Cool show. Yeah. I hope you guys follow me on Twitter. I never thought I'd have 5,000 people follow me on Twitter. It's kind of crazy. Right on. Surge hide. Yeah. Surge hide.
Starting point is 02:02:12 We'll do that. Surge hide. Yeah. I sound piker. All right, everybody. We will see you all over at TimCast.com in about 10 minutes for the live uncensored members only portion of the show. Thanks for hanging out.

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