Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #731 The View Says Tucker Carlson Posting J6 TRUTH Should be ILLEGAL w/Brandon Straka

Episode Date: March 9, 2023

Tim, Hannah Claire, Phil Labonte, & Serge join Brandon Straka to discuss the establishment media freaking out over the release of new January 6th footage, Stacey Abrams' non profit aligning itself wit...h Antifa, leaked text messages showing Tucker Carlson roasting Donald Trump, & how gay children are being groomed to become trans. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 For whatever reason, the establishment media, they don't care too much about us, podcasters and online shows. And it's probably because we're not nearly as big as a lot of people think we are. If you're watching shows like this, you assume we are the big show, but we're probably not. Probably not. Tucker Carlson, he's a big show. But then again, he's a big show mostly among the older crowd. And his audience in the key demo is actually comparable to ours a little bit more that's why i think it's interesting that he's getting so much heat over what's going on but i
Starting point is 00:00:30 but i get it he's a big cable tv news prime time host who put out definitive proof showing that the january 6th committee democrats and the media were lying about what happened on january 6th they began lying about what tucker car Carlson actually said and reported on. And now we have Chuck Schumer complaining about it, Elon Musk roasting him and Democrats, and we actually have The View saying what Tucker Carlson did
Starting point is 00:00:55 should be illegal. I just want to point out, to all the people who say things like civil war is not possible or whatever, you have right now 150 far left extremists who just laid siege to a government facility, firebombed it. I would call that an insurrection. Twenty three were captured. Some were not from this country. One was a lawyer from a large nonprofit. And now we have Stacey Abrams nonprofit advocating people join the terror
Starting point is 00:01:20 campaign in Atlanta. I don't hear the Democrats complaining about that at all. It's because you're in a cold civil war and you're losing. I'm not trying to bring a black pill to your day. But the reality is if the establishment press media, governmental institutions are ignoring the fact that far left extremists are firebombing government facilities, shot a cop, put him in the hospital. And they've been doing this for over two years. Many of them have been arrested as domestic terrorists, and instead they say, remember two years ago when a bunch of people went and fought in front of the Capitol, and then behind it the cops let a bunch of people in?
Starting point is 00:01:53 Yeah, that's the end of the world. When they lie about what really happened on January 6th with the peaceful side, where people were let in by cops who opened the doors and fanned them in, that's reporting from CNN, mind you. When they lie about that and completely ignore what the far left is doing, I got to say, the institutions are captured, the narrative is being set, and history is moving in that direction. So we got to do what we got to do.
Starting point is 00:02:17 I mean, we got to talk about it. We got to share these stories. We got to make sure we're telling all our friends and family, and we push back. And that means, look, come 2024, you got to pull out all the stops. You got to make sure everybody goes out and votes. Ballot harvesting seems to be the key. Make sure everybody's in and working as hard as they can to get those votes out and make a difference. We're going to talk about this, plus a whole lot more. Joining us today, or I should say before we do, head over to TimCast.com. Become a member by clicking that Join Us button. My birthday's tomorrow, so if you want to give me a gift, become a member at
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Starting point is 00:03:22 We decided to put it up now so that y'all can pre-order if you really wanted to. But again, become a member at TimCast.com. Smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Brandon Strzok. Hey, you're Pisces. I am, indeed.
Starting point is 00:03:37 I just looked it up. Yep, the peak of Pisces, March 9th. Happy birthday. Thank you, sir. That's awesome. I will be 37. I'm flattered that you've invited me to be your birthday guest. Well, the birthday's tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Well, close enough. Birthday Eve. Your birthday Eve guest. It was actually going to be Matt Walsh. Was it? Yeah, but something came up, unfortunately. This is why we don't like to announce guests. Tomorrow? Yeah. We don't like to announce guests because then when something happens, it's like, oh, sorry, I disappointed everybody. Right, right, right. It would have been awesome, though.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Matt Walsh, we would have been very mean together. So who are you? What do you do? I'm Brendan Strzok. I am the founder of the Walk Away campaign, the movement of people walking away from the Democratic Party. And sort of, you know, what's going on in the world right now is relevant to my story as well, because I also happen to get kind of ensnared and broiled into the January 6th thing,
Starting point is 00:04:27 which we'll get into, I'm sure, tonight. And I'd love to tell people about our new app, Walkaway Social, at some point. Right on. Well, yeah, it's convenient. We periodically will have a guest who comes on at the right moment when something's breaking the news
Starting point is 00:04:41 and someone asks, they were like, did you book him in advance? Like all the J6 happening with Tucker and then you have Brandon here. I'm like, no, no, no. It's just perfect. It's perfect timing. That's how it happened.
Starting point is 00:04:48 So yeah, we also have Hannah Clare Brimlow hanging out. Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow. I have a piece up on timcast.com. In celebration of International Women's Day, it's all about the first lady of anti-feminism, Phyllis Schlafly. So in two hours
Starting point is 00:05:00 or whenever stuff's done, go check that out. Yeah, and perhaps in the members only segment, we have this video of a woman crying because she's too old to have kids. And she's talking about how she can't do without support. And I feel bad for her, but I think it's an interesting conversation culturally.
Starting point is 00:05:12 So we got Phil hanging out too. Hello, I am Phil Labonte, the lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist and counter revolutionary. And we also have my man. Yo, I am Serge.com. Pleasure, guys. Take it away, Tim. All right, let's jump into this first story.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Many of you have already seen the videos released by Tucker Carlson. But I want to make sure we can remind you just a quick bit before I show you what Whoopi Goldberg had to say about this. So we have Chuck Schumer, bald-faced lie, attacking Fox News for shameful use of January 6th video. Hmm. How unfortunate. Elon Musk roasting them, which we'll show in a second. And then we have the actual more video footage showing exactly what happened. In this tweet from, I just saw this in response to someone.
Starting point is 00:05:57 This is Tony Bagalafs tweeted, If you think Tucker Carlson is a liar, it's because you don't understand. Buildings have four sides. The Capitol is massive. One side was chaos. The other side had cops waving people in and assisting them inside. That's not punching cops and breaking windows. And here is a video showing police opening the doors and letting people in.
Starting point is 00:06:18 The video footage released by Tucker Carlson shows you've got Jake Chansley, the guy with the shaman hat or whatever you want to call it, being given an escort by police who attempt to open doors for him and show him around and then escort him to the Senate chamber where he then says, thank you, police. Now, in response to Tucker Carlson reporting on this, the media has gone nuts. The GOP establishment has gone nuts. Mitch McConnell's losing it. The Democrats, the media, that's all they can talk about. And Whoopi Goldberg had this to say. Wait, let's get the audio up. Can you switch the audio over? Is it good? Why is this not being scrutinized the way that they scrutinize other things. Because to me, this should be against the law. You should not be able to lie to the American knowingly. You know, it's one thing if you made a mistake and you didn't know.
Starting point is 00:07:14 But we heard for five or six years how, you know, the media was lying, fake news, they were fake news they would is so how come what is that what is our what do we do as Americans to to say this is not okay I mean the first amendment yeah I think you well no well the First Amendment doesn't allow you to willingly lie the First Amendment actually does so you know I'm not one to care too much about the view, to be completely honest. But this does exemplify a serious problem that we have in that. Yeah, whoopee.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Maybe it should be illegal to lie willfully to the American people. And then I got to tell you, you'd probably be the one in jail. It certainly would not be Tucker Carlson. Probably be more like Chuck Schumer. Don't get me wrong. A bunch of Republicans would be wrapped up in it, too. But no, the First Amendment does, in fact, allow you to lie. Yeah, because there is no arbiter of the truth when it comes to government, or at least there shouldn't be. But they're trying to make one. The scary thing about this is and the reason why I
Starting point is 00:08:16 think it's a good lead story. Tucker Carlson got actual video evidence showing, to be honest, a lot of what we already knew. There's so much video footage of people walking around. In fact, let me show you how Elon Musk responded to this. And I want to play you this video. So Chuck Schumer says Speaker McCarthy has held the gavel for less than three months. But by sharing the January 6th security footage with Fox News, he has already done more than any party leader in Congress to enable the spread of Trump's big lie.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Elon Musk responds, do you want us to remove this video? And it's from Stephen Voiceover. I will now play for you this video and I hope you have a good laugh. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the U.S. Capitol building. If you've joined us today for the insurrection, please make sure you pick up a promotional leaflet on the way in. Stay inside the safety cordons at all times. And if you get lost, speak to one of our Capitol police officers. They'll be sure to point you in the right direction. Obviously, this is Ingest voiceover showing video footage of people peacefully walking through the Capitol, staying within the
Starting point is 00:09:25 security ropes, asking police for help and being given help by the police. It's fascinating. It's all, oh, there's a guy taking a selfie. He, the video does show people climbing the wall, people walking in the building. The funny thing is, if you are, as the left would describe, a right winger, whatever that means, you're probably well aware that there was violence on January 6th, and you're probably not okay with it. I don't know. Some people probably are.
Starting point is 00:09:52 But the left keeps saying Tucker's fans and Trump supporters don't know about it. They're lying. And they're outright saying on TV they want it to be illegal to tell the truth because the truth is actually the lie, they say. But don't trust your lying eyes. We can only just see the video footage from Tucker Carlson. Here's the issue. They don't watch it. They watch The Daily Show. They watch The View. The View and The Daily Show then lie about it, and they never actually see the evidence. So what do we do we do i mean like whoopi goldberg was almost on to something she's like it should be wrong to lie to the american public
Starting point is 00:10:30 meanwhile she's not aware of the irony of what she's saying right like well keeping some information and then saying like well that's a lie she's caught she is like right on the cusp of realizing she's almost getting it almost getting, but she's not quite there. Right. I mean, I am probably not the one in the room to speak to this, but I think it's crazy that so many people will just deny this exists, right? Like NBC's headline for this right now
Starting point is 00:10:56 is like he's falsely depicting the January 6th events at the Capitol. It's video from the Capitol. How can he falsely be depicting it? They're betting on people not actually watching Tucker Carlson. No, just seeing the Capitol. It's video from the Capitol. How can he falsely be, be falsely depicting it? They're, they're betting on people not actually watching Tucker Carlson.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Just seeing the headlines. When they say falsely depict, I really feel like it's just, just saying that he's, he's, you know, putting out a narrative that doesn't align with ours.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Because the video isn't doctored or anything. It's not, they'll say it's selectively edited. Well, I mean, there's 44,000 hours. So yes, it is selectively edited. Well, I mean, there's 44,000 hours. So yes,
Starting point is 00:11:26 it is selectively edited because you can only put up so much material. But it doesn't change the fact that he's showing video of what happened on that day, but he's presenting a different narrative.
Starting point is 00:11:38 And the left just can't have anyone that doesn't fall in line with what their prescribed narrative is. It excites me so much to see that tweet where the guy made the point about the four sides of the building. So I was actually placed on house arrest and I got off of house arrest for January 6th in May of last year. And literally within a week of getting off of house arrest, I began doing media. I was so anxious to get out and start talking about this and tell the story because nobody was presenting a counter narrative. Nobody.
Starting point is 00:12:10 And the first interview that I did was an hour-long sit-down with Tucker on Fox Nation. And this is the point that I was trying to drill home time and time again when I kept doing my interviews. There are four sides to this building. And unless you were on the west side of the building, which is the side facing the National Mall, you are not seeing people assaulting police officers, scaling walls, breaking windows. When I arrived on the east side of the building, the two large Columbus doors on the east side of the building were already open. And people were saying, people are going inside the building. So I walked up to the top of the stairs, stood outside and shot a video for eight minutes. They ended up arresting me.
Starting point is 00:12:47 FBI stormed my apartment, handcuffed me, took me to jail. When I got out, I found out I was facing multiple felonies and a misdemeanor. I never even went inside the building on January 6th. But when I got out, I found out I was facing multiple felonies and one of the felonies against me was occupying restricted grounds. It's peculiar because most people who went inside the building actually got misdemeanors of occupying a restricted building.
Starting point is 00:13:12 I got a felony for occupying restricted grounds. But the point of this is that I'm considered an insurrectionist. I am considered a part of the deadly insurrection of January 6th, even though I was on the opposite side of the building, but people don't get, this is what they don't want you to know. And this is why they've created these narratives in the plea deal. Every plea deal that you read from a January 6th is going to include language talking about how they knowingly did this and they did this with this intent and they were there to, you know what I mean? And then they get to go to the media and say, well, we have, you know know a thousand convictions of people who have confessed that they were there to insurrect or to uh to disturb a
Starting point is 00:13:50 congressional hearing to disturb the peaceful transfer of power everything that i've heard about the confessions and stuff like that sounds incredibly maoist it sounds like they they you know the the confessions that are given to the people for plea deals and stuff, because that's how you get a plea deal. You have to confess. They sound atrociously now. Well, they write it for you. They write it. You sign it.
Starting point is 00:14:15 And one of the tools that they're using to secure plea deals is this charge called felony obstruction of Congress. Now, they've never used the charge in this way before. It's got some sort of historical context that has to do with people intimidating witnesses in a case in the 1970s. But they bent it and contorted it and twisted it inside out to use it for January 6th to say, well, you know, there was a congressional hearing happening and it had to do with the transfer of power. So we're going to apply this felony charge of obstruction of Congress, which potentially carries 20 years in prison.
Starting point is 00:14:50 So you've got, you know, felony for standing on the grounds and felony for this and potential felony of obstruction. You could be faced. I was potentially facing three decades in prison or I could take a misdemeanor for disorderly conduct. I chose the latter and signed the plea deal. Yeah, it's crazy. That's what's going on. for disorderly conduct. I chose the latter and signed the plea deal. Yeah. That's crazy. That's what's going on. Do you find other people are coming to you saying that's exactly my experience?
Starting point is 00:15:11 Oh, 100%. I mean, almost every person I know who took a plea deal has shared the same experience of going into a very dark depression. I actually just did
Starting point is 00:15:23 an event at CPAC that we called the true stories of January 6th, which was a panel event featuring Dr. Simone gold, John Strand, Jerry Perna, the aunt of Matthew Perna, who committed suicide,
Starting point is 00:15:35 who was also facing a misdemeanor charge, but chose to kill himself rather than go through with the rest of his sentence because the government came to him and said, now that you've signed our misdemeanor plea deal, which would have carried about a maximum six-month sentence, then they chose to tell him, we're actually going to request a terrorism enhancement to your sentencing, so now you're facing six years in prison, not six months. They told him this after he signed the plea deal. Jerry Perno was on on our panel and Derek Evans.
Starting point is 00:16:06 And Derek Evans also took a plea deal and talked about how he, you know, he wept, he cried when he signed it because it's devastating. And it's under coercion, really. I mean, all of these. I can't say that. But, you know, what choice would you make? I'll say it i remember i i often tell the story about how i got uh uh i got arrested for driving on a suspended license that i didn't know was suspended because in illinois when you're under the age of 21 if you get more than one moving violation more than
Starting point is 00:16:38 two moving violations within i think two years they suspend your license i got a bunk ticket from a cop who claimed i was speeding when i wasn't, didn't have the money to pay it off or go to court or whatever, didn't know about the law. And so when I get pulled over and get a ticket, I end up going to court. And the judge said, were you coerced in any way? And I said, yes, your honor. And then the judge freaked out. And he was like, what? By who? And I was like, the prosecutor threatened to go to prison for a year unless I pled guilty. And he was, that's not coercion i'm like yes it is yeah are you kidding me i'm like i'm i'm out visiting my my family because because i got a brother-in-law who's in who's in iraq and my my family's freaking out because they're always going to lose his life i drive out there
Starting point is 00:17:17 drive back also i'm getting arrested for a suspended license i didn't even know because i wasn't even here and happened like a week ago now you're telling me i'm gonna go to jail for a year over this? Yeah, that's coercion. Sorry. Yeah. And then he was like, go talk to a lawyer and come back. I'm sorry, dude. When a prosecutor goes to any person and says, we are going to give you the maximum, a terror
Starting point is 00:17:34 charge, we are going to beat you and torture you, that's coercion. Right. We've got unlimited resources. We're the federal government. You're an individual of limited means. It's David versus Goliath. And we're going to hit you with all of these charges. Oh, and by the way, we won't transfer jurisdiction of your case. So you're going in front of a judge and jury who hates Donald Trump,
Starting point is 00:17:55 who hates anybody who voted for Donald Trump. We're not going to let you be seen by a jury of your peers to make the decision. Or all of this can go away if you sign this piece of paper and take this misdemeanor plea deal, which we're still going to treat as an act of terrorism. I'm sorry to say that, you know, to all these people, I keep saying we are inching closer and closer towards civil war. Maybe, maybe not. I'm not psychic. All I can tell you is all of the January 6th defendants, as you just pointed out, will
Starting point is 00:18:19 be forced to go in front of a jury of people who despise them for no reason right who despise them because whoopi goldberg lied to them who despise them because jimmy kimmel because the daily show lied to them that is a tribal cult right and no matter what you present to these people in terms of evidence the responses it should be illegal to show the truth that's what they're saying about tucker carlson right Now imagine, after Whoopi Goldberg said, Tucker reporting the truth, showing video of it, and saying, just watch the video. She said, that should be illegal.
Starting point is 00:18:52 What do you think is going to happen when you go to court, as a defendant, and you go in front of these people and say, they'll be reasonable. Here's a video of the cop waving me in. The jury will say, we don't care. Fortunately, that one guy, Martin, whatever his name was, went with a bench trial with a judge. And the judge, fortunately enough, said, the video does show a cop waving him in the building. So case dismissed, all charges dismissed. That's such a rare occurrence. That
Starting point is 00:19:15 was Judge Trevor McFadden. He is a Trump appointed judge. He has a very mixed record. He's the only judge who has occasionally been reasonable in certain circumstances but he certainly hasn't been consistently reasonable in a lot of these cases it's like you kind of have to catch him on the right day uh you know when he's had i don't know the right cocktail of whatever but um it's but i mean that's not how it is all the time um praise praise or praises deserve deserve it if there's a video of a guy being waved in the judge judge said, all charges are dismissed, I'll give him credit for that one. Right. Criticize him where he deserves to be criticized.
Starting point is 00:19:49 I also know a girl. I happened to meet her several years ago at a different function. She made the decision to enter the Capitol on January 6th through a broken window. So she crawled into the building through a broken window, walked around, didn't do anything while she was inside, but then exited again through a broken window. She went before Judge McFadden, and her total sentence was two months of probation,
Starting point is 00:20:15 which I thought was very reasonable, and I actually heard, I listened in. You can call in and listen. I listened to her sentencing, and the way he spoke to her was actually very compassionate. He was stern and said that she had made a mistake. But it was kind of like, go live a better life. Don't make stupid choices anymore.
Starting point is 00:20:32 And I thought that that was really cool. Now, in my case, I didn't go inside the building. And I ended up getting jail time, house arrest. I'm still on probation for three years. But you didn't get McFadden. I didn't get McFadden. It's just, it's such a crapshoot. And, you know... Let's pull this story, because I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. It's from the Postmillennial. Stacey Abrams not-for-profit launches direct action against Cop City.
Starting point is 00:20:56 This is Stacey Abrams, who some speculate will run for president. We'll see. Encouraging people to join StopCopCity, the hashtag used by the terror organization, the terrorists, some who are not even from the United States, who firebombed Cop City and were charged with domestic terrorism. So here's what I find fascinating. We have Whoopi Goldberg saying what Tucker Carlson did in publishing proof of the lies from the Democratic Party and the establishment, the corporate press, saying that should be illegal. My question is, how come no one in the mainstream press, none of the Democrats, and we know the
Starting point is 00:21:34 answer, of course, but my question is, if we're trying to approach it logically, to ask someone who is not discerning or doesn't understand, how come they're screaming j6 while far left extremists are firebombing atlanta memphis and this police facility this government facility when you have foreign individuals joining this group and firebombing equipment and attacking cops with explosives they're talking about something that happened two years ago right there's an insurrection going on right now stacy abrams organization is helping organize for the terrorists. They are literally charged with domestic terrorism. Right. On more than one occasion, they have been charged with domestic terrorism. And Stacey Abrams is helping. And a Southern Poverty Law Center
Starting point is 00:22:15 lawyer was arrested among the terrorists and the spokesperson for the SPLC posted in support of the of the terrorists. Right. That is not in the mainstream narrative. No. Honestly, I think that they actually don't see the things that they do. It's not even necessarily that there's a double standard or an intentional double standard. I think that they legitimately don't think it's a crime when they do it. I think that the...
Starting point is 00:22:41 Because most of the time... Is this about racism? Is this about social justice? The government is building a large police training facility. And so they want to, they've burned down private buildings, private homes. They've burnt, they flipped a guy's truck over and torched it. These are private citizens. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:56 It's just, it's just overt terror, political terror. Ostensibly, the argument that they give is because it's a, is environmental. They don't want to cut down the trees. Well, not completely. It's a mix of things. You've got, depending on who they're talking to, they'll argue, oh, they're trying to deforest. Then they'll say, oh, well, it's because cops are racist. Oh, it's because of police files.
Starting point is 00:23:17 We want to defund the police. So it's just basically you have a national banner, Antifa, international, to be honest. They have killed people. they've been expanding and it's it's nowhere to nowhere to be seen no one cares right this is the warning i have for everybody when stacy abrams can have an organization advocate for and support overt terrorism i mean come on like they're literally breaking into a government compound and setting equipment on fire and torching it. And there's people from France and Canada who are along with it. Like this is these are foreign individuals in the United States attacking government property.
Starting point is 00:23:53 When that is institutionalized, defended or outright ignored, like I got to say, it sounds like you're losing. The right is losing. The right is losing. If Antifa can and has gotten away with murdering people and burning this stuff down, I mean, as an institution, as an organization, as an idea, where is any kind of counterance to this? So what I mean to say is Aaron Danielson gets shot and killed in Portland, 30 some odd people in the summer of love riots. Yes, some of those people who committed those murders have been brought to justice. But as an ideology, Black Lives Matter and Antifa have still not gotten this degree of scrutiny that January 6th did. Not even close. And if you remember in 2020, I believe it was in St. Louis when that mob of
Starting point is 00:24:38 Black Lives Matter protesters went to a gated community. They broke the gate down, they rushed inside, and a couple came out on their lawn, the McCluskeys. And there's that kind of iconic imagery of them holding their guns, protecting their property. We all know how that ended up. It was the McCluskeys that ended up getting arrested. It was the McCluskeys that I believe ended up being charged and ended up being the enemies and the villains in that case. And what's interesting is like on a sort of macro level, it's almost an identical situation to what happened at the Capitol.
Starting point is 00:25:07 I mean, you had a mob of people go into an area where they weren't supposed to be. If the McCluskeys were like the Capitol police protecting the building, why are the Capitol police the victims in the January? Which, you know, by the way, they are. But like, why are the McCluskeys the villains for protecting their property in that situation?
Starting point is 00:25:25 I warned everybody in 2018. I said, sooner or later, these far left extremists will come to your home and the cops will sit there and say, it is easier to arrest the homeowner than it is to deal with a riot. Yeah. And we've seen it on multiple occasions. The McCluskeys are a good example. owner than it is to deal with a riot yeah and we've seen it on multiple occasions the mccloskeys are a good example they break onto private property onto the actual lawn of their building yeah and the mccloskeys who own legal weapons come out brandishing them saying get off our property
Starting point is 00:25:54 the mccloskeys are the ones who actually get criminally charged right you have the story out of milwaukee where they these these blm rioters who had burned down someone else's house or i should say set someone else's house on fire twice, show up in front of his house. He brandishes a shotgun through his window. The cops come and arrest him in his own home. I'm sorry, man. Like, maybe I'm completely wrong to say civil war,
Starting point is 00:26:17 and it's more like the revolution is happening. It's been happening. It will continue to happen. And sooner or later, you will own nothing, and you will be, well, you'll be very unhappy. But don't worry. The you will be, well, you'll be very unhappy. But don't worry. The government will give you pills or they'll flog you unless you say you're happy.
Starting point is 00:26:41 You know, after I got arrested and got out of jail, you know, I started reading the eight-page press release that the FBI wrote on my case and submitted to the media. And then the 30-page sentencing recommendation that the government created on my class B misdemeanor. And in it, they went through my social media and pulled a great number of tweets and things like that to sort of substantiate, you know, this person's a lunatic with violent tendencies and look at these things that he said. And they actually pulled a tweet where I had said, I said, make your peace right now with the fact that we're in a civil war. We didn't want it. We didn't ask for it, but it's here. And at this point, you better kind of open your eyes and see what's happening. They're like, he's promoting civil war. This guy is dangerous. And I had to kind of explain to them, number one, if you look carefully, I'm saying it's already here. It's someone else started. It's at your doorstep. But number two, when I talk about a modern civil war, and I think when i talk about a modern civil war and i think when
Starting point is 00:27:25 we talk about a modern civil war we're not talking about like grabbing your musket and taking out to the streets and starting and shooting people we're talking about debanking people freezing people from being able to send and receive money from being able to exist on social media or exist in the public square destroying people's reputations but that's all the precursor the look at look at civil wars throughout history it doesn't start with one day a guy walks outside and says, you know what? I'm just so darn mad at the president. I'm going to civil war. And then the people go outside with enough of you, you're dangerous. When you see roving bands of far left extremists going through cities and firebombing storefronts, this is how it starts. The way it starts is this. You will have a band of ideological extremists. They will grow their ideology. It'll percolate down through the masses throughout the entire country. They'll put up a
Starting point is 00:28:22 banner. They'll identify each other. They'll recruit. One day, the extremists will commit very serious crimes. The police, the government, or locals will defend against those crimes, killing one of the extremists. The extremists will use that as evidence among their cult that they are being victimized and must fight back with violent force. Take a look at what happened in Georgia. Far left extremists occupying a forest opened fire on police officers, shooting one of them. These people had burned down private homes already, literally torched houses. They were under construction for sale houses. I don't think people lived in there. They stopped a guy who was in his truck, a regular old dude, booted him out and flipped it over and set it on fire. Ideological extremists.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Then when the police get shot at, they return fire, killing one of the extremists. The corporate press and the activists then say the police assassinated one of our members. A peaceful, peaceful environmental activist was brutally murdered by the police. And the Guardian was my favorite. They said the police provided no evidence that he was shot. The officer is said to be in stable condition in the hospital. He's like, okay, so the cop got shot by this guy. So we're at that point where there is no right-wing equivalent to Antifa.
Starting point is 00:29:40 No. The closest you ever got was Proud Boys. And the Proud Boys were so smart that when they got into a fight with Antifa, they walked up to the cops and said, here's my name and information. Thanks, officer.
Starting point is 00:29:49 And the cops slapped cuffs on him and put him in prison for four years. Congratulations. The closest thing you can even get to anywhere near it is January 6th,
Starting point is 00:29:57 which is, yes, a riot. A lot of people in the front of the building, violent. And then a lot of people on other sides of the building being let in. And what happens?
Starting point is 00:30:04 The federal government pulls out all the stops to destroy anyone in any way associated with that day, if they can, if they can. Do you think it's hard for the public to believe that there can be left-wing domestic terrorists? Because I think back to all the environmental groups in the 70s that wreaked havoc everywhere. You know, they were extremely active. They burned buildings. They broke into places. Like, it's actually normal for domestic terrorism to be perpetrated by the left. But it seems like because they were the party
Starting point is 00:30:33 of, like, peace and love and hippies, somehow we, like, forget to say, oh, wait, they can also have extremists. I think it's a combination of... Far-left extremists know they're lying. You know, we were talking earlier, I can't remember who said, they don't think's what they're doing is illegal they know what they're doing is illegal they don't care they think they are morally justified in committing crimes against
Starting point is 00:30:54 other people maybe that's a better way to say it yeah maybe that's a better way to say it because that i was going to give the same answer that i gave earlier which is that most of the time that there's violent extremism that comes from the left, it's often some way rooted to some sort of social injustice, which often is tied to race. And anytime the topic of race is involved, it seems like anything goes and anything can be justified. I mean, you can literally loot and kill and beat people up and burn buildings down. And if people like us say, what the hell is going on? People say, oh, these people have been experiencing injustice for generations.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Whether it's race or whether it's LGBT issues or whether it's class, it's always a Trojan horse for some type of oppression. And it's always going to be moving leftwards. We live in the logic of Herbert Marcuse. You can read about this. Herbert Marcuse wrote it up in an essay from the 60s called On Tolerance or Pure Tolerance. And essentially it says it's okay for the left to do whatever. It's consequentialism. It's just they're looking for a result, which is their policies instituted. And if their policies fail, that's fine because it moves the dialectic along that's all it is it's like the the left is entirely built on a dialectic uh a dialectic system so as long as they
Starting point is 00:32:13 can implement their policies they're fine with lying they're fine with whatever with whatever means because at the at their core they're not liberals. They don't believe in individual rights the way that we do. They don't believe that the rights that you have come from your humanity or from God or whatever. They believe that all rights come from the state. That means that your rights are just gifts. So there's no reason to argue about that you have the right for this or you have the right for that.
Starting point is 00:32:42 You have whatever right the state says. I think those ideologies are not as relevant as a lot of people think. They're certainly wielded as a weapon to guide and control these masses. But I believe that the far left extremists are chaos and nothing more. The foot soldiers. Yeah. But the people that are the people that are calling the shots, the people that are that are that, that are writing the books, that are teaching children, these people are religious fundamentalists about the left. I disagree.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Totally. I think that the reason they're going after kids with this gender ideology stuff and the far left stuff is literally just to destroy them. You don't have a child sterilize themselves if you're trying to create an army or to control a machine because you're cutting the root out from the plant you need. The outcome of all of this will be the complete destruction of the West, of American culture, in which case- That's the goal. Exactly. So there's not going to be any kind of communist utopia. There's not going to be equality. There's going to be burning rubble. utopia. There's not going to be equality. There's going to be burning rubble.
Starting point is 00:33:47 And they won't be here. They'll be in China. So they use leftist ideology, in my opinion, as a means to an end. But if you actually had people adhering to a structure of this ideology, there would be a structure to it. However, what we end up seeing is there's no ideology. They change things on a whim. One day it's Wemmick's and next day it's women with a Y. One day it's women. Now the joke is women plus. Yeah, that's a good one. Women plus. So if there was a consistency to their
Starting point is 00:34:18 ideology and goals, I would agree they actually believe this stuff but but but watching the stuff for the past 10 years and seeing there is no start point and end point i'm like oh all it is is a chaotic destructive force that spreads and consumes and destroys the the chaos is the chaos is intentional because like i said there like i said before that happy people don't are like happy societies don't have a lot of revolutions if you have a society that's working with people that, that trust each other with a high trust society where you, where you don't have significant amounts of, of economic disparity and you have everybody feeling like they can kind of
Starting point is 00:34:55 have the same culture and the same kind of, or at least are free to express their cultures. You don't need a revolution. You don't need to tear everything down. But if you have enough people that feel like they are unhappy with their lives they're unhappy with their station for whatever reason whether it be because they they believe they live in the wrong they were born in the wrong body or they believe that that they live in a white supremacist society or whether they believe that that the man is the
Starting point is 00:35:18 reason that they can't get ahead and it's it's the rich people blah blah whatever reason you can use to sow discord in the society is the intent and the goal because the discord makes people want to revolt they want a revolution that way but there is a an inconsistency as it applies to uh political lines because they they don't embrace the discord or the the sense of oppression when it comes to issues that bother people on the right. I mean, yeah, if you go back and you look at 2020 again and, you know, Black Lives Matter and all the destruction that was done in the name of racial justice, but they can't seem to wrap their head around why anybody would become inflamed to commit violence on January 6th.
Starting point is 00:36:00 So the question that I've always wondered is, and I don't condone the violence of January 6th, I never have. But the question is, why is it OK to commit violence? Because black people, some black people feel like they're having some kind of experience in this country that is unsatisfying to them. But you can't wrap your head around the fact that there is an enormous group of people who believe that their election and their vote was being stolen and that they thought that a fake president was being installed through a stolen election. It's intentional hierarchy. There's the in-group and the out-group. The communists, the party, like the Democrats,
Starting point is 00:36:35 whatever you want to call them, if you want to call them Democrats, doesn't matter. But the point is, if you're in the in-group, they make whatever excuses for your behavior. If you're in the out-group, then you're not even a person like right we're we're going through like a maoist style cultural revolution and if you go back and listen to mao's uh speeches or read his speeches he talks about like the people and
Starting point is 00:36:58 the democracy and that's only applied to the the actual people that are in the party. Everyone else is the enemy. And that's the dynamic that we have here. When the Democrats talk about we're worried about our democracy, they are talking about the Democrats and the Democrats only. When they're talking and everyone that's trying to destroy our democracy are the people that are trying to do things that the Democrats don't want. If you do things the Democrats don't want, that is destroying our democracy. When they say we, that is not referring to you. Yeah. It's referring to them.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Exactly. Exactly. Let me pull up this story. Let's talk about what the deep state will do if you come after them. I hate him passionately. Tucker Carlson unloads on Trump in text messages. What's strange? The day after Tucker Carlson releases definitive evidence that the J6 committee and Democrats
Starting point is 00:37:50 and many Republicans in the media were lying, text messages get released smearing Tucker and framing it as though he hates Donald Trump. The funny thing is there are photos of Tucker Carlson laughing and hanging out with Trump. This is two things, a distraction and an attack. Stop people from talking. So when you search for Tucker Carlson right now, you'll see. So earlier today, I'm doing research on all these stories. Tucker Carlson drops these videos.
Starting point is 00:38:16 When I search Tucker Carlson on Google, what do I get? I get the text messages story. Something salacious to keep the left focused on. It's not so much for the right. The right's going to be like, yeah, Tucker can say that. That's fine. People on the right are more understanding and willing to accept that not everybody likes Trump, but they're going to try and win that argument.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Tucker has done too much good. And there's going to be some people like, ah, whatever, who cares? But the left will now watch this instead of the J6 footage debunking the lies from Democrats. Yeah. Well, I think Tucker effectively became a J6-er this week in a way. I mean, it's like the media is now, I think, going to start treating him the way they've treated every person who's been arrested on January 6th and everything that they put us through.
Starting point is 00:38:57 I mean, again, when I got through my house arrest and I started doing media and telling my story for a long time, I mean, for like almost a year, I was like the only J6 are out talking and sharing my story. And they have beaten the hell out of me. I mean, honestly, in many ways, the worst part of my J6 experience happened after my sentencing, because when I started talking about it and I started making clear that I was not going to allow this to destroy my career or my life, that I was going to come back from this, I was going to fight back. That's when they got nastier and nastier and i actually i keep saying i think that the media there we all know that the media is what the media is but they they've almost become like they see themselves as a prosecutorial arm of the democratic party um i mean there were
Starting point is 00:39:40 reporters from cnn contacting my prosecutor and giving evidence to my prosecutor and saying, like, you should you should think twice about giving him a plea deal. Have you seen this and have you seen this? When have you ever heard of reporters doing that? Yep. The vanguard. Yeah. They're the vanguard trying to usher through usher the proletariat through the revolution. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:00 I think there are so many progressives who go into journalism to be activists. Absolutely. They're not there to just present stories and give you a fact and let you draw a conclusion on your own. They want to control the narrative. And unfortunately, it's something that they've been able to do on all fronts, right? Journalism is not about truth. It's about their truth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:20 So when you were incarcerated after January 6th, can you talk about what that was like? Because you did the display at CPAC, was it the year before? CPAC Dallas. Yeah. Yeah, in August. And I don't know if everyone knows what it was, but there was a jail cell. Right. Yeah, so I did essentially a performance art piece at CPAC where we erected a life-size prison cell, eight by eight. I mean, the only difference is that it had bars.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And an actual prison cell like the J6ers are being held in is concrete bricks and a metal door where these people, many of them are in solitary confinement and have been for years, which is insane. Because that's, I mean, I was, look, I was in there for two and a half days. Okay. Like it was, and in that two and a half days okay like it was and in that two and a half days i was also not let out but by the time i got out after two and a half days like i i was i i mean like my nervous system was like on fire i was like get me the hell out of here if i had been there for two years like these people are never many people are still in yes they're never gonna be okay like these people they they're going to be gone.
Starting point is 00:41:26 There's no way a person can survive that. And they say they're doing this for their protection? Or what's the justification on solitary confinement? I think that they put them in a special ward, which they have said is for their protection. But they, I mean, there's all sorts of excuses that they can use. They can say, oh, COVID, or maybe somebody tested positive. I don't know the justification necessarily for it going on as long as it has.
Starting point is 00:41:52 I know that they're being treated horribly. I mean, there have been beatings. One person, we keep hearing lost an eye. I don't know if that's literal or if he was just blinded or what happened, but apparently he had the hell beaten out of him. Food that's being served to them inedibly and you know destroyed so they they don't have access to their lawyers calls with their families um it's really pretty horrifying but so i was kind of trying to draw attention to that cause and unfortunately because the right-wing media
Starting point is 00:42:21 overwhelmingly is so cowardly and afraid to even talk about January six or touch this, which is another reason why it was so difficult for me to get my story out as much as I wanted to. Very few in the right wing media actually covered my performance art piece at CPAC, which, by the way, was actually amazing. I mean, it was actually made cool and different. Yeah. No offense to CPAC, but like you need new fresh things. Yeah. And when I say amazing, I don't mean like I'm amazing. It was what I mean is that we had hundreds of people lined up to see it because what
Starting point is 00:42:53 I did was we erected a life-size cell. I put on an orange jumpsuit and a MAGA hat got inside it and I kind of like sat in various poses not saying anything and not interacting with the audience. I allowed them to come. They could talk to me. They could pray. They could do whatever they want to. But I didn't interact.
Starting point is 00:43:11 All I had was a chalkboard on the black wall. And I would keep getting up and changing the messages to say things like, where is everybody? Why am I alone? What you know, things like that. And then we had audio. I was going to ask about the audio component. Yeah. So we had 20 or 30 wireless headsets.
Starting point is 00:43:26 And people could come and they could put the headsets on. And while they were kind of looking at the visual, which was me in the cell, we had three different channels they could switch between, which were the voices of real J6ers telling their stories about being raided by the FBI, by being abducted, by being taken and put in a cell, and the charges they faced and what it was like going through the DOJ it was very powerful and people were like weeping and watching this it was amazing and then of course only the left-wing media was there so all you heard about was this unhinged CPAC performance you know that was like a carnival and at one point Marjorie Taylor Green did come inside and she held my hands and she prayed and And I mean, it was lovely. But a lot of people were unwilling to interact with what you had set up. Oh, no, no, no. From the audience, you mean?
Starting point is 00:44:10 No, I mean like a lot of conservative public figures that might be at CPAC, like Marjorie Taylor Greene went up to it, but- She did. Yeah, there weren't that many big personalities that came in were a part of it. But I'm even just talking about the media. I mean, it wasn't reported on by fox news or newsmax or i mean pretty much anybody on the right so the coverage
Starting point is 00:44:31 was you know we just got dragged so hard with them except on twitter that's where i heard about it because i wasn't there that year and like twitter was in love with it or at least conservative twitter was like this is so fascinating see i got see people would i wasn't on twitter at the time and people would text them to me, and they'd be like, this is just unusual. It's different, I think, especially for conferences. People don't expect performance art. But I think so many people have questions about what happened to the January 6th people.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Even if you don't agree with the violence and you don't support it, there are so many unanswered questions that I think a lot of people want answers to. And that's why I ask, like, why do you think it's that people can't grasp that domestic terrorists are left wing in America? Because for so long we've been fed, you know, conservatives have guns. Conservatives are violent. Conservatives are this, that and the other. Like, look at Ruby Ridge. Look at all these things.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Like, there is an idea that because they want to be left alone or you know they're more interested in safeguarding their own rights they don't want to comply with this larger narrative that conservatives are the ones who we have to be nervous about sorry that's what i think is um is great about what tucker's doing is that he's it doesn't erase the imagery of people who you know broke windows or fought with police officers of course not and nobody's saying that like nobody's trying to rewrite the narrative and act like the violence didn't happen what we're trying to do is provide a little more nuance and context here and also to point out just because a person got arrested or charged
Starting point is 00:46:01 doesn't mean that they were a part of the let's overthrow the government gang why didn't trump just pardon everybody i can't answer that question he should have pardoned a lot of people i don't know about everybody but a lot of them yeah um i suppose how do you get everybody's name how do you how do you you know well and like put out a call like hey if you were there send me a right and when did these plea deals get signed when people go to trial i mean i know a bunch of the proud boys were just on trial for the first time this year did he can you pardon someone before they've been officially yes you can i think you can yeah and so he just didn't do it do you think he'll talk about it going like that's what he said now they should
Starting point is 00:46:38 all be let go he's the he he came out on truth social saying following the release of this footage all of these people should be released. Yeah. Look, you know, I get very angry and very defensive about people making public statements about January 6th without effectively kind of like doing the due diligence or the work behind the scenes. Look, I can tell you, I have never been contacted in two years by any of these people who and it's really frustrating um you know i have even heard trump kind of give credit to certain members of congress and talk about what amazing work they're doing on the subject of j6 and i'm like no they're not like no they're not ask any person who's gone through january 6th who's helping them the answer is nobody yeah nobody's helping nobody's helping me nobody's people affected by
Starting point is 00:47:25 january 6th are helping themselves so like when i went to the proud boys trial couple in in january i sat with people whose family members are part of this and they're saying like well we made our own groups and we found each other therapists to talk to when we found each other like resources because basically no one wants to talk to us about it we can't get any media outreach and also like we are really dealing with what the effects of having someone incarcerated because of this like we have legal bills like if we want to be in trial and they're in trial in dc and we're from nevada right like we have to be here we have to put our lives on hold somewhere else like
Starting point is 00:47:57 it's an incredible burden not only obviously on the people who are incarcerated but on the other people who are affected by it it It's unbelievable. And I mean, the amount of money that it costs to go through something like this, I mean, it's and these are a lot of these are very poor people, you know, and it's it's not even a matter of, you know, well, this person should be paying their legal bills or whatever. But it's like, man, one post on Truth Social saying, you know, everyone donate to this fund. I mean, it could raise $10 million in 24 hours. And, you know, now everyone's actually got representation.
Starting point is 00:48:29 For the time being, a lot of these people have very liberal public defenders who hate their guts. I mean, they're literally J6 defendants whose lawyers are making them watch Schindler's List, you know, and things like that so that they can learn to be a better, more compassionate human being. Is that real?
Starting point is 00:48:44 That's a thing that really happened. That's wild. Yeah. Let's jump to this story real quick. It's a rehashing, but there's some new details. The Daily Dot reported Matt Walsh lashes out a Daily Wire reporter who quit over his increasing transphobia. We're in a culture war, a cold civil war, burgeoning into a hot civil war, whatever you want to call it. And Matt Walsh is mean.
Starting point is 00:49:07 So, of course, the left is really angry. The disaffected liberals are angry. Some conservatives, but mostly not really, are angry, but some are. And Matt came out and pushed back. The story that developed over the past few days is that one of the reporters of the Daily Wire resigned saying, you can't be so mean. We have this tweet here from Colin Wright. The journalist Christina Buttons went to here from Colin Wright. The journalist Christina Buttons went to work for Colin Wright's publication on Substack, and it's called
Starting point is 00:49:30 Reality's Last Stand. And Colin Wright says, there is a critical distinction between frankness and inhumanity. It is the difference between delivering a harsh truth and compassion and lobbing insults with reckless abandon. It's the difference between calling someone morbidly obese and a fat F. He says the actual word, though. This I'm tired of being nice mentality is dumb. I've never sugarcoated the truth to avoid hurt feelings. It's impossible to speak bold truths directly and without euphemism and draw moral lines in the sand while also not engaging in vicious name calling. It's not that hard. He goes on. But I think the point here is this is one of the reasons why I believe the right could lose, one of the biggest weaknesses of the right. Everything we talked about in the previous segments, you've got January 6th defendants who walked into a building where the cops opened the door for them, and they're facing years.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Probably end up getting a couple years like the Q Shaman. He got convicted, sentenced to four years, and the video shows the police are actually escorting him around the building. But sure enough, that's all it takes when they lie. And now you have this debate among the anti-woke, anti-establishment about being mean, and there's outrage that anybody would be as mean as Matt Walsh. You know what Matt Walsh said? Did he call someone a fat F? Did he call them, did he have deep, harsh growls? And you sick, you suck. No, he said to one individual, you are eerie and off-putting.
Starting point is 00:50:57 And people who look at you will find you pitiable. And that was over the line for everybody. It was a little more than that. That's what he said. He said you are eerie. Are we talking about... Dylan Mulvaney. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:51:08 He made a video where he said, you are eerie and off-putting. I watched it. When people look at you, they will see something pitiable. Didn't he also say something about you'll kill yourself and your parents will be glad that you're gone? He never said that. That's not true. He didn't say that your parents would... I watched the video.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Absolutely no way. He did not say that. Did you guys watch the video? I did not. Matt Walsh did not said that. That's not true. He didn't say that your parents would. I watched the video. No way. He did not say that. Did you guys watch the video? I did not. Matt Walsh did not say that. He said you have. Well, you're making me feel like I'm having a blackout because I feel like I saw that happen.
Starting point is 00:51:33 There is a meme video from a 4chan post of Joe Biden saying your parents will be glad you're dead and they will bury you under your born name. Matt Walsh said you have destroyed, you have removed whatever it is that made you masculine, but you have not gained a commensurate amount of femininity. All right, hang on. Even if I'm wrong,
Starting point is 00:51:50 just hang on a second. You're saying he did not say, make some comment about you'll kill yourself, and when you're gone, your parents will be secretly glad that you're gone because they'll be relieved
Starting point is 00:51:59 of the burden that you caused them and the shame. He never said that. Matt Walsh. I'm telling you, I remember in my soul. Did you'm telling you i remember did you watch a deep yeah that would be we've talked about that before like what if because because that that script is like a four chance it's a four chance and i i've heard it the the joe biden one and so
Starting point is 00:52:17 like it would be interesting because how many of you on the show where i've been like the deep fakes are terrifying if you have watched a deep fake fake, Matt Walsh. You're really sure he didn't say that? I watched Matt Walsh's show. But I watched it. That's why he said, he said you are eerie and you are off-putting and people will look at you and see you as something pitiable.
Starting point is 00:52:35 All right, I'll watch it again. That is the extent that we're calling mean. Also, I really hope you can find this video. I'm sorry to cut you off. Yeah, I had so many opinions on this topic and now I've lost all my confidence because I feel like I fell for a Nigerian scam or something. What if you did? What if this is the deepfakes?
Starting point is 00:52:51 This is what I'm saying. Let me pull up the video. We played it on this show. You did? Yeah. I'm seriously worried about my mental health right now because I feel like I remember this. The one you can hear in his voice has got a distinct voice. I mean...
Starting point is 00:53:05 Dylan, if that is the most attractive you will ever look, then I don't even want to imagine what you'll look like when you're at your ugliest. You do not pass as an attractive woman or as a woman at all. Even with 50 pounds of
Starting point is 00:53:22 makeup and plastic surgery and clever lighting tricks, even then you still cannot escape what you really are and what you will always be you have successfully shed whatever parts of you were masculine perhaps at least on the surface nobody would ever describe you as masculine or manly so you've got that going but your femininity quotient has not increased at a rate commensurate with the loss of your masculinity. You may not be masculine, but you also aren't feminine. Instead, you are weird and artificial. You are manufactured and lifeless. You are unearthly and eerie. You are like some kind of human deep fake. That's what you are. You are a man deprived of all the best qualities of men, but without any of the best
Starting point is 00:54:04 qualities of women. Even your personality is contrived. Everything about you is fake. Nothing about you rings true. Nobody buys the act. You'll never be accepted as a woman by anyone, never by anyone. Even the people who pretend to accept you as a woman are only pretending because they're afraid of being lectured if they don't, or because they want to use you as a platform to virtue signal. But everyone who looks at you will see something pitiable and bizarre, something utterly unfeminine in every way. You will never be able to actually have the identity that you're trying to appropriate, nor will you ever be able to fully escape the identity that you're fleeing. The best you can
Starting point is 00:54:42 hope for is some kind of limbo, the worst of all worlds. And yet, even in that limbo state, you will still be a man. Just not one that any of us can respect or take seriously. But other than that, champ, you're doing great. So that, he didn't write this for you.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Did it begin there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was nothing before that that's it that's the clip a heartfelt message this is what it's got 4.4 million views where you watched you watched a deep fake bro because what you described is a famous meme and they took a joe biden deep video and they put that meme with a deep fake voice and made him say that and what did joe biden say so joe biden said nothing someone wrote this long post that was like very very harsh and nasty towards trans people saying you will kill yourself and
Starting point is 00:55:31 your parents will when they bury you they will use your given name and a thousand years later when they dig up your scalp their your body they will find a skeleton that is distinguishably male or discernibly male yes that was it that's that's a that's a mean that's like a famous 4chan post i want you to find this video now like because i kind of like believe that someone where did you see that walsh into it i i i don't know but i remember i saw it and i thought i was like i i thought it was really awful and um i it definitely made me feel a certain kind of way about him but wouldn't this be interesting if it's like exactly what we thought was going to happen with deep fakes? Like they are making people, they are using all these headlines to then say awful person said terrible thing.
Starting point is 00:56:14 And then if you do happen to stumble across a video, there's a chance that it's not even real. But I feel like I'm like having that moment again, like in 2017, when I realized that Trump didn't mock the disabled reporter. I'm like, oh, my realized that trump didn't mock the disabled reporter i'm like oh my god that didn't happen people wonder why everyone well why there's so many so much hatred towards donald trump in the quote-unquote deplorables because people misremember things constantly and when you are told things over and over or you're told this is how you should feel over and over, you can't help but have that rub off on you. But in this case,
Starting point is 00:56:49 I'm not misremembering. I'm telling you, I saw it. What if you really watched this deep fake video, which is like a step above misremembering. It always bothers me
Starting point is 00:56:56 when you get these articles where someone is like, the Hollywood Reporter had one we talked about on Pop Culture Crisis the other day. Roseanne Barr had some tweets that were bad and that's why she got kicked off her show or whatever and they don't link to the tweets anywhere the twinks the screenshots of the tweets aren't
Starting point is 00:57:11 embedded in the article because i guess they're too terrible to say which you know while spicy like i don't think that they were impossible to print they were barely spicy which she made a mistake about her right which makes me think that they wanted to have this person uh take all the heat and now they are not willing number one to do due diligence and try and at least find whatever these offensive comments are to say like look for yourself see how bad they are which i guess they weren't bad enough and then on top of that you know now they can just recycle oh well this article or this outlet also said that she said bad thing and this one too and so that's what's happening with matt walsh if there is a deep fake video
Starting point is 00:57:47 i would i don't even know that would be hilarious because it's exactly what i have been afraid of with deep fakes this whole time yep bizarre yep but anyway to the point we have this ongoing debate now about whether or not we're being too mean and it's just it's it's very disheartening to see antifa firebomb a government facility and then these moderate types these defected disaffected liberals are like how dare matt walsh call someone unearthly unearthly that is a shockingly academic insult oh i can't well i never i'm like really that's it come on do you have an opinion though about d about Dylan Mulvaney? Is that the name?
Starting point is 00:58:28 Oh, absolutely. I don't think Dylan's trans. What? Yeah, I don't think Dylan's trans. I can't have my mind blown this many times. I'm right. I am completely right. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:58:37 I am 100% right. What's happening? Wait, what's your opinion? I want to know that first. Well, I didn't expect the conversation to go this direction. But all I was going to say is that when when i started first seeing dylan mulvaney videos i thought um he or she was uh really annoying um and no i i mean just i'm not i mean trans or not i just thought this is an obnoxious person but But the conclusion of this is that I saw Dylan make a video basically addressing conservative people in the conservative movement who object to who he she is.
Starting point is 00:59:21 And I found it very compelling. And it actually I was like, I actually like this person. Let me ask you something. How many women do you know go hiking in high heels? Well. That's an obvious question, right? Right. None.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Because that's a ridiculous caricature of a woman to wear high heels in the woods. How many trans people do you know go hiking in the woods? Me? Just one. Dylan Mulvaney. Because it's not a real thing. It's a character being played. Now, some people have argued to me that, no, no, Dylan's trans.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Like, you know, Dylan just got facial surgery. And I'm like, Madonna got facial surgery. Celebrities get surgery to be on TV all the time. Someone who is chasing after internet clout will certainly get surgery if it gives them more internet clout so i view dylan as you know maybe dylan will say that they're trans and and say it passionately but what i believe is and i'm not a doctor i'm not a psychologist or psychiatrist or anything like that but looking at dylan i see a person who is a social media clout chaser who started getting traction for this persona, decided to do, look, trans videos and this kind of stuff
Starting point is 01:00:31 gets a lot of traffic. Dylan embraces it. Boom. Views skyrocket. Celebrity skyrocket. Q rating. You know what Q rating is? The celebrity rating that they give you in Hollywood?
Starting point is 01:00:40 Skyrockets. Getting to meet the president all through the roof. And guess what? You can't stop now. You got to keep one up in the game if you want to keep getting the views, the attention, the sponsorships. And this is what we're seeing with Dylan Mulvaney. That's why Dylan wears high heels in the woods, not because it's something women actually
Starting point is 01:00:56 do, but because he has to keep exaggerating and one upping the psychosis of the character. And I talk about this all the time. When they first started writing about Donald Trump in 2015, they said, Trump made a racist statement. They get a million views. The next day, they write the same article. Oh, Trump made another racist statement. Nobody cares.
Starting point is 01:01:12 We know. We know. Well, Trump made the most racist statement. Really? The most? What's this? Another million views. They have to keep escalating the story in order to maintain your attention.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Otherwise, people get bored and they say, who cares? I already know this is happening. I'm done with it. Dylan Mulvaney is a perfect example of this. The content has to get crazier and crazier. Otherwise, people lose interest. So if Dylan just came up and doing videos being like, hey guys, it's me again. I'm a girl. People would be like, so what? This is boring. So what happens? Well, Dylan says that they're a girl. Then they go out, then they dress up like in a dress. They keep doing things to attract attention, which culminates an outrageous character and that's what you do, I mean, why is it not possible that Dylan is trans and has created a character that now has to continually be up? Well, I'll put it this way. Dylan is not gender dysphoria, and there are many academic scientists, many who have pushed against the groomers,
Starting point is 01:02:26 the weirdos, the social media stuff, and the autogynephilia stuff, like the NCAA swimmer, they point out that people with dysphoria don't like being seen that way. It triggers their dysphoria. So to have someone like Dylan intentionally going on camera
Starting point is 01:02:43 and doing these things, it's like at odds with what gender dysphoria usually is you're saying you're saying when they when someone has gender dysphoria they and they feel like they're not passing that triggers their dysphoria something like that we're i don't want to call anybody out and get anyone's personal business not by naming somebody but we've spoken with some trans individuals who said this kind of behavior would be triggering dysphoria and creating anxiety and panic. Going out to millions
Starting point is 01:03:11 upon millions of people in this way would be very triggering. Dylan's doing something else. And I just think it's this simple. For all I know, fine, Dylan's trans, but this idea of hiking heels is not a component of a female
Starting point is 01:03:26 or womanly identity. It doesn't exist. It's a cartoon. I've never had hiking heels in my life. Are you missing out? This is the way I describe it. Imagine if someone
Starting point is 01:03:34 put on blackface and started running around screaming about eating fried chicken. That's what Dylan is doing with hiking heels in the woods. It is a mockery
Starting point is 01:03:42 and caricature of not just women, but also trans women. I mean, I think that's why the Barbie pouch comment got so many people saying like, what? Right. the woods it is a it is a mockery and caricature of not just women but also trans women i mean i think that's why the barbie pouch comment got exactly what right but but think about think about this i don't know any women who use that term or behave in this way run around in the woods in high heels you'll break your ankle but but also it's it's for regular for for your your average trans person who is trying to just live and get by and feel good about themselves, Dylan is creating this perspective of trans people that is psychotic.
Starting point is 01:04:12 And the hiking heels is the perfect example, not to mention the Barbie pouch, the giving tampons to women in bathrooms. That is outrageous. And it's it's going to create and we see it. We see it with people like Matt Walsh. Like, I like matt walsh like i like matt walsh but for matt walsh to act like dylan mulvaney represents trans people is the problem with dylan mulvaney not matt walsh matt walsh doesn't know better he sees this he sees it's propped up he sees the activist defending and he says this is wrong and i say matt you are correct but that's not what trans people are i've never been totally i've never totally understood
Starting point is 01:04:44 why trans culture always has, like more and more I feel like it intersects with drag culture, which drag culture wasn't necessarily transgender in and of itself from my understanding of it. I mean, it's interesting to me that, you know, when my age,
Starting point is 01:04:57 women younger than me are really interested in like the clean girl aesthetic, right? Minimal makeup and, you know, they wear their hair natural and stuff like that. And like, on the other hand, if you you are transgender suddenly you're wearing extremely high heels and you have really long nails and you have you know it's not all women don't wear makeup and all trans people
Starting point is 01:05:13 do wear makeup but it's just it seems like there is an aesthetic nature that doesn't feel genuine it feels like you have to present this way to affirm that you are this identity? It's like the more the trans person desires to be in the public eye, the more they tend to be a caricature of what femininity is or, you know, more like the ideal of femininity. And if someone is looking to just pass and and live their life if they if they're like a what you would consider a normal trans person that doesn't have a job whether in the public eye they're just trans and they work their normal job or whatever then they don't need to have like the and this is just my impression but then it seems like they don't need to have like the i'm a woman turned up to 10 they can can be like, you know, just kind of be a little more unscript, you know?
Starting point is 01:06:06 It's ironic because these are the gender as a societal construct people. Yeah. I think Dylan is doing things to intentionally court controversy. Yeah. And using trans as the vehicle to court controversy. Because I guess the point I was trying to make is
Starting point is 01:06:21 the people that we talked to on this show, friends of the show, and people we've interviewed who are trans are like, we don't want to draw that kind of scrutiny attention to ourselves in that way. Why would we? It's like scary. It's dangerous. Dylan's intentionally doing weird things, making tampon videos. What is it? Someone super chatted, normalize the bulge.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Like these are these are shockingly weird things that trans people don't do. I forgot about that. Right, right, right. So I'm like, listen, Dylan should not be held up as an example of what transgender people are like, because it's not true. I do not think I think Dylan has found a vehicle to get attention. And Dylan is probably a narcissistic sociopath who is trying to get attention, likes and views and fame and that's it. And just like any other person, like Madonna, they will get plastic
Starting point is 01:07:10 surgery to alter their appearance to fit the mold of what gets them attention. Because if you look at the way Dylan behaves, you're right, and then you look at the trans people, the trans woman that works at Media Matters, she's purely politics, right? She's purely politically trans, like she's trans or, right? She's purely politically trans.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Like, she's trans or whatever, but it's all about the politics. It's not about, like, any of the glamour, glitzy, blah, blah, blah. You know, she does dress like a woman and do, you know, do her makeup as if she was in the public eye, but it's not, like, the whole glamour thing that Dylan seems to be going for. So I think that you can really pick out, not really, but I feel like there are some trans people that you can pick out what the motivating factor is.
Starting point is 01:07:57 You know, whether it be politically motivated for it, because there are people that are trans because they're politically motivated. One day, Dylan's viewership is going to start to diminish because you can only go so far with any kind of content or show. Think about how TV shows used to be.
Starting point is 01:08:14 How many seasons would you get before getting cancelled? What was that Parker Lewis can't lose? We had Corin Emick hanging out. That show apparently was a big deal and people are big fans of it, but it got it got what three seasons. So back in the day, you might be on top for a couple of years. Then your show is gone. Some shows last a little bit longer. Maybe you'll get seven years and then it's gone. Hugh Laurie was huge when house was on TV.
Starting point is 01:08:37 The ratings through the room and the rating started going down and then the show disappears. This, this is no different. Attention cannot remain on somebody forever. You will not be on top of the mountain forever. You know, the Young Turks used to be the biggest independent media. Alex Jones was, but he got knocked down for other reasons, censorship. But the Young Turks have dwindled dramatically and their viewership has tanked from where it used to be back in the day. Same is true for most YouTubers. There will come a time where Dylan Mulvaney will start losing viewership and you will then see Dylan start making depressed videos being like, I'm a failure and things like
Starting point is 01:09:10 this because the average person, this is true. You'll notice this right now. There was a post I saw on Instagram from Lex Fridman and he said something like, today I felt like a failure. So many people do sometimes and I wanted to let you know that, you know, we all go through this or whatever. Tons of comments were saying things like I've been feeling that, too. It's really funny how many influencers, how many social media personalities seem to go through an existential crisis the exact same time. And, you know, at that time coincides with ratings dips in the beginning of any year, particularly political people or cultural individuals who are doing cultural politics, cultural politics and news after an election
Starting point is 01:09:46 when viewership tanks. And I've been doing this for a decade. And when I started doing it, I met Luke Rutkowski, who had been doing it for five years before that. And first thing he said to me was, at the beginning of every year, views drop when you're in this space. And I was like, oh, wow. So for me, it's just a normal cycle. And then come August, October, views are going up. No surprise, though, you see so many people in the beginning of the year being like, I'm feeling down. I'm having a crisis, an existential crisis. Oh, woe is me and things like that. Well, it coincides often with a decrease in their viewership because they're feeling like I can't get enough traffic.
Starting point is 01:10:18 It must be something wrong with me. Right. That's going to happen to people like Dylan. It's going to happen to people like Jazz Jennings and Kim Petras, these people who are put in the spotlight for these reasons. It's not going to last forever. And then it's going to be really bad
Starting point is 01:10:32 because for a child star or for any personality, you feel like you touch the clouds and then it gets pulled away from you. That's why a lot of people get mad. But what if you get surgery? Yep. You surgically graft wings to your back so you can
Starting point is 01:10:46 fly as high as possible to touch this touch the clouds and then finally when you fall back down to earth everyone looks at you like some kind of you know disfigured or whatever it like it that's a problem in the entertainment world because of people that that you know turn to substance abuse when the you know when the the love dries up or whatever so i i imagine that you know you're going to see a massive massive wave of of suicides and and serious mental illness problems from with trans people that regret transitioning and stuff like that there's i feel like this is on par with like lysinkoism in the Soviet Union, or with lysinkoism in the Soviet Union.
Starting point is 01:11:28 In that context, it was with farming and agriculture, but this is the medical version of it, where they're just using the ideology to push an agenda, and you've got people that are going to be just absolutely destroyed later in their lives.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Well, they're doing it when they're really young. Yeah. Body count's going to be, you know. They're doing it when they're young. And especially with Dome of Mania, I think it's worth acknowledging that so much of this is happening publicly on social media that drives your dopamine, right? So if you are feeling alone or sad and you get validation for doing anything,
Starting point is 01:12:01 right, like they'd say with like girls who get famous on YouTube for being like mommy vloggers. And then after they have a kid, there's like a ratings drop. So they have another kid and then like people come back and they're excited. Is that true? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:11 I mean, they get accused of this. I've never asked one personally if that's what they do, but there's like an idea that like you get people who get famous for doing something and so they'll do it again or they'll adopt a baby or they'll announce they're engaged. They'll do something to make them exciting again.
Starting point is 01:12:24 What can someone like Dylan Mulvaney do after they already did their surgery video dylan mulvaney comes out and says i got surgery reveal and then it gets a million views but you can't do it twice so i mean but now it's the other aspects of life right does dylan mulvaney get married does dylan mulvaney have children like this will be an ongoing thing but the to me one of the biggest dangers is that your entire life is tied like your income as well as your sense of self is tied to the internet right you are selling your private inner experience to what get to go to an award show have someone put you in a designer dress for the night like at the end of the day you will naturally become less popular and then
Starting point is 01:13:04 what does that do to your mental health? What do you do when you've done, you've pulled out all the stops and you've gotten all the surgeries and you've had the extra content baby or whatever? Like, what do you do when there's nothing left to do? You have to have with grace the ability to detach. And because social media is addictive in its nature, you will always be searching for that new dough well and it yeah and it becomes your identity i think for a lot of people too but i still say that everything that we're saying applies to anybody trans or not of course of course i mean it applies to paris hilton it applies you know that's my point yeah
Starting point is 01:13:38 madonna just got plastic surgery and everybody made fun of madonna yeah dylan mulvaney got plastic surgery and i don't think it's's because Dylan Mulvaney is trans. I think it's because Dylan Mulvaney is trying to adapt to be something that will attract attention and generate likes and get views and make money, build influence. Hey, look, how many people wish they could find the ticket to sit down with the president?
Starting point is 01:14:00 And some people are sociopathic and will do literally anything. If they're told this is what you have to do, they'll say, okay, I'll do it. And there you go. That's Dylan Mulvaney. Madonna is a good example, too. She did that video on, I guess, a TikTok being like, if I miss, I'm gay, and she threw a pair of underwear
Starting point is 01:14:15 way far away from a trash can or something and then never addressed it. And for a couple days, there was this buzz being like, is Madonna coming out? What's happening there? Clearly not. She never addressed it again, so I guess she just wanted the views. Yes, right.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Of course. I mean, exactly. So this seems like we are slaves to the social media trends and the media headlines, which makes it more interesting that there are so many journalists, like I said before, who are actually activists who want to control narrative, and therefore they're like, if you get into their good graces, your name will stay in the headlines, right? If you do what they want you to do,
Starting point is 01:14:48 then you get the attention you're craving, but it's not even just craving. Like you are addicted to it. I would just like to say that the LGBT thing is not a hot ticket. If you're a conservative, you got to advise Madonna. Well, I'm just saying it is not skyrocketed my career in any way, shape or form.
Starting point is 01:15:06 And in fact, I am deeply, deeply hated by the LGBT community. So not to mention there are a bunch of conservatives on Twitter even right now saying being gay is wrong and they don't accept it and it should be rejected and things like that. So it's not like the Republican Party is unified in support of gay rights. Right. So this is this is interesting about the modern culture war. And when the left says people like you are conservatives or whatever, or people like me are far right or whatever, they really have no definition of what that is
Starting point is 01:15:36 other than you are not in their cult. Yeah. Can I ask you a question? Yeah, anything. Okay. Do you feel like as a member of the lgbtq community transgenderism would you would you drop the t from the acronym that's what i want to ask like do you think as a gender identity it should be included in the same community group as sexual orientation um okay so i
Starting point is 01:16:00 i'm probably gonna i don't know i'm probably gonna get in hot water for saying this, but I have always been, I'd say, an advocate for what I consider to be legitimate transgender people, people with gender dysphoria who actually transition from male to female, female to male. And I have absolutely, my personal policy is I have no trouble using the pronouns of some. If a male becomes a female, a female becomes a male. I'll do shield. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:16:31 I just I have a problem with the spectrum. I will not do they them pronouns. I won't do it. I don't I will not accept non binary ism as a legitimate thing. I will not accept gender, queer, gender fluid as a legitimate thing. I will not accept genderqueer. Gender fluid. As a legitimate thing. I believe it's an identity. That somebody might just feel like.
Starting point is 01:16:52 But it's not a real thing. And I'm not going to participate in it. It's become harder and harder. For me to defend the transgender community. As the transgender community. Has become more and more absurd and caricaturish and insane and what have you like a couple of years ago there were other gay conservatives that we were kind of debating and they were saying like we really
Starting point is 01:17:15 want to drop the tea off of this and i was like come on you guys like it's like why create this because there are transgender people in the world who like you were kind of saying earlier just want to live their lives and be left alone. I don't want to participate in hurting those people. And I feel like it just hurts people to be like, you're not a part of, you know, you used to be,
Starting point is 01:17:31 but now you're not. But it's getting harder and harder. It really is. I mean, even for like the people that I consider to be legitimately transgender, because they're so lost in this mess at this point. I'm sorry, this, you just wanted an answer to your
Starting point is 01:17:46 question no this is great um i hate the q don't accept the q uh 100 let's let's cut the q off and get rid of it a thousand percent um i guess i'm not there yet with the t um i i accept the argument that it's a totally different thing um you know a person's gender identity is not the same thing as their sexual orientation i accept that i guess the reason why for me, it was never really like a thing that I felt the need to make a clear line of delineation is that I think that most or many gay people have experienced some form of gender dysphoria in their life. I did. I mean, when I was a little boy and I didn't understand complex human sexuality, for me, the feelings that I was experiencing as a little boy, it was easier to to to accept those feelings in terms of gender. So I knew I was a little boy who had crushes on little boys.
Starting point is 01:18:40 I knew that I liked things that little girls liked. I would have much I would have been much happier playing with the girls than out, you know, roughing it up with the boys and fighting and things like that. I would have rather been inside playing with Barbies. And so I kind of identify with what that feels like to feel like you're a boy who identifies with girls. And then at a certain point I did grow out of it and I probably at puberty. And then I realized that I was a gay guy a gay man um but but i guess the
Starting point is 01:19:07 point is that i can identify with that feeling enough that i don't feel the need to ostracize people who are like that i feel like some people don't grow out of that and for them a gender transition is the right answer to feel like they are legitimately who they are and i i guess i just don't see the need to ostracize those people from the community because I sort of understand. I can relate to that feeling. It sounds like if you were a little kid today, you would end up getting the hormone blockers and the surgery and that stuff. Probably. They put you through it. who wanted to embrace what I was going through and say, you know, we, we, we feel like, you know,
Starting point is 01:19:47 we want to validate what you're feeling. Yeah. Things could have gone horribly wrong. It's crazy because it's actually a very, very fundamentalist view of how to deal with the issue of gender dysphoria. So they do in Iran, in Iran, if you're a gay man, they, they give you a forced sex change operation. That's my understanding. And so what's happening now is really interesting because they're going to little kids who like social things. Hey, look, boys can play with dolls. Girls can play football, right?
Starting point is 01:20:14 That's no big deal. Well, not anymore. If you're a little girl who wants to play football, they will tell you you are trans and you need the surgery. That's a really weird thing. Can't you just be a woman who plays football? I don't know what's the- Exactly. Well, and that was what I was very poorly articulating
Starting point is 01:20:29 a moment ago when I was talking about like the identity quotient of being non-binary or gender fluid. I mean, I was a kid of the 80s and in the 80s we had Boy George, we had Billy Idol, we had all those hair bands and all the people wearing makeup
Starting point is 01:20:44 and it was just sort of an expression. That the word i think i was looking for it was an expression not an identity and everyone accepted that expression i mean i'm sure there were some people who didn't you know had an issue with boy george or whatever but for the most part people like they didn't really care yeah but now people like oh boy george you need to be trans yeah you said this before that they were the party that is advocating for you know transition people earlier and earlier are the same party that's saying like don't believe gender stereotypes and give your daughters tonka trucks and whatever else except if your son reaches for a barbie then maybe you should be on alert for perhaps they're puberty blockers like maybe your son socially likes to hang out with girls. And who knows why that is?
Starting point is 01:21:26 They're young. Like you said, I think there's so much rush to say, we're going to make these kids change and identify because we're trying to protect them. We're trying to help them. And I want to believe that's honorable, but it has some intense consequences for something that you wouldn't do in other circumstances, right?
Starting point is 01:21:44 But here's where I separate from some people on the right on this issue, because the left has gone way too far, way, way, way too far. And so I do understand that there is a bit of, I would say, an overcorrection on the right. But I hear some people on the right say, you know, like, no children are transgender, and no child is born in the wrong body. And I'm like well then where did all these transgender adults come from i mean we definitely know that there are people in the world who believe that their gender transition was the right choice for them
Starting point is 01:22:13 and that they finally feel like who they authentically are after they transition those people were children at one point i'm not saying that you should transition a child but i'm saying transgender adults were once transgender children so that it really kind of can't be true you know that uh uh male grip strength has dropped by what like 80 70 70 percent since uh world war ii i think the the embracing of plastics probably resulted in a rapid decline in testosterone and a massive disruption of the human endocrine system, resulting in weak and effeminate males and masculinized females. So one of the reasons I think we may be seeing this big burst is the expansive use of plastics, which we use for all of our food and then we eat it. Women get pregnant and then eat plastics, which disrupt the endocrine
Starting point is 01:23:03 systems of the babies. There were some studies that we've talked about on the show before, a birth control that women were taking. And then when they got pregnant later, it would masculine, masculinize the babies. And they tracked the women who got pregnant and found that like an overwhelming majority of their daughters were lesbians. Looking at a study like that i'm like there's probably a correlation between the things we are putting in our bodies that we know are endocrine disruptors and the expansive increase in the lgbtq community but yet the problem is that in predatory teachers no that's for sure you know telling kids things that they shouldn't be teaching them but i do think endocrine disruptors are playing a huge role. And the problem is when a human being is affected in this way, and then
Starting point is 01:23:50 they become an adult who can vote, they vote in favor of the way they've been affected. So if there is something that is damaging and poisonous to us, and then people vote to affirm that thing, well, you're going to get more of it. Could you imagine if people were voting to affirm that thing, well, you're going to get more of it. Could you imagine if people were voting to affirm mesothelioma like it was a good thing and exposing kids to asbestos, pulverized asbestos, so that we could explain, you know, so what's the big deal? Maybe they'll get mesothelioma too. It's like, look, if there's an environmental factor that's causing harm to people and creating depression and anxiety, we don't want to affirm that. We want to stop it and figure out what's causing it. I think two big components, one, the social component, obviously, we're talking about. But I do think that phthalates, PCBs, et cetera, chemicals in the water and the food are causing a lot of it as well.
Starting point is 01:24:34 So in that scenario, then, you believe that a good portion of these people are actually experiencing gender dysphoria. Yeah, we've had this discussion that's why it's so funny when these like these cultists lie about what i believe and say like denying the existence of trans people and i'm like i'm the one who's actually argued to many of these uh activists like with james lindsey for instance saying no i think some kids are trans i think there are kids who were born to mothers who were taking some kind of medication or were sensitive to certain phthalates, PCBs, what is it, polychloral biphenyls or whatever. And thus the child in the womb was, their endocrine system got disrupted in utero
Starting point is 01:25:12 and in development. And then this kid is born with a more feminized brain and mental state or endocrine system and a masculine body. And that's going to create dysphoria. That makes perfect sense. I don't understand. And it's a societal problem it's it's a it's a poison that we've introduced into
Starting point is 01:25:30 our food supply that we need to deal with i don't understand why it has to be one or the other or absolute a zero-sum game so there are people like no no kid feels this way it's not possible and i'm like i think a lot of little girls are being socially manipulated yeah and it's because of instagram and other social media platforms that they're feeling this pressure to fit in. So they're saying things they don't understand. Because I've heard so many stories from parents who are like, my daughter said that they were gay or pan or lesbian. And they're like, my nine-year-old daughter didn't even know what those words meant. Right.
Starting point is 01:25:57 But then you're actually going to get genuinely, in my opinion, more young boys and girls who are legitimately trans and experiencing dysphoria. That doesn't mean the treatment is surgery, sterilization, or puberty blockers. I don't know what the treatment is, but I certainly think there may be a physiological effect. It's not just social. And it may pass for a lot of people. Well, we know that depending on the studies you look at, it's from like 65 to 90 some odd percent that children desist and once they hit puberty they stop having these feelings so if that's the case shouldn't we we should absolutely lean in that direction like let's not use puberty blockers because most of these kids are going to be totally fine once they they pass puberty why create more stress and anxiety for them it's a trolley problem
Starting point is 01:26:40 no in what way because if you if you the argument that they make on the left is oh if we don't have these get kids to transition they're going to kill themselves but if you if you transition kids that don't need to be transitioned and you do it en masse because of social contagion you're going to end up transitioning kids that you're going to end up transitioning way more people than you need and you're going to end up having more people with ruined lives than if you don't transition the few actual people that are trans that after puberty end up being actually trans. The high probability is that most people that feel like they're trans in puberty, once they go through puberty, it it desists and stops that's the the
Starting point is 01:27:26 the most likely course of action that's most likely what's going to happen so if you if you push everybody that has any kind of gender dysphoria into transitioning you're going to end up hurting a lot more people than you help yeah especially if puberty like the process of going through puberty is really what changed i mean you mentioned that like some of your dysphoria changed when you went through puberty if if the if the experience of the hormonal changes of puberty uh in some ways you know is is the antidote to some of the discomfort and dysphoria that people feel preventing them from going through it is uh sort of a problem in that case well yeah and i just think that like i was saying before when you're very very little you're not able to understand things like complex human sexuality you know you you see things in
Starting point is 01:28:10 terms of boy and girl mommy and daddy and things like that and when you're having these feelings that you know your your innate kind of behavior the things you're drawn to are more like mommy than daddy or whatever then that makes you kind of feel like, well, maybe I'm supposed to be a girl. Maybe I, where I want to be a girl. That's what I like. But then as you start to get older and you start to understand, well,
Starting point is 01:28:33 you can be a boy and sort of have these sides of yourself that are maybe not like the other boys, but then other sides of you are more like the other boys. And, you know, it's just, it's too much for a little kid to understand. When you have to learn, like when you're born, you have to learn object permanency. Like that's how how, you know, complete you have to learn literally building blocks. We are. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:28:56 It's like so the idea of a trans child is or a trans baby or like, you know, like it's like, come on, I can't. You see, you don't even see faces. You see blobs for the first like three months or whatever when you're actually born. Well, and it's hard to think that these kids who are, you know, let's say four or five, six, their parents are talking about it. They say, oh, I like, you know, I like playing soccer and I don't want to wear a dress or whatever it is. And they start saying, oh, maybe my child is transgender. That becomes the conversation in their home. And they know that they are receiving a lot of attention exactly not that they are going out of the way but that's being a kid right yeah looking for attention looking for
Starting point is 01:29:32 affirmation from your parents if your parents are saying like it's something we talk to you a lot about and maybe you're you know going to see specific doctors or else like it's hard not to then accidentally reinforce this thought like you are transgender and make it concrete before they are able to understand how complex you know the spectrum of human emotions are the understanding gender understanding sexuality like it's a lot to put on a child and i feel like it's too easy to let it run away even for parents who are trying their best to be there for their children. Yeah. Like you said about the way that children responded, in the 80s there was a lot, or maybe it was the late 80s or whatever, there was a lot of hysteria about children being
Starting point is 01:30:16 molested, right? And it wasn't going on. What was happening was children were talking, or parents were talking to their kids, or authority figures were talking to kids that could barely understand what they were being asked but they understood that if they answered in the in the affirmative the parents and the adults seemed to get excited so when you're asking a kid hey did this you know did you get touched did you get you know did they touch you in a place they're not supposed to whatever children that barely understand what's going on they realize that they but they they couldn't
Starting point is 01:30:45 understand the context but they could understand that when they answered in the affirmative that the people around them lit up and it's like oh i'm supposed to answer this way and that's what you're teaching children even though they don't understand the words that you're teaching there's because there's so much more to communication than just the words that you're saying you know so to your point no it's hard i think of all the videos of moms being like my daughter said that she loves this person and they're it's like a you know feminist icon or whatever and you want to be like but what do they know what do they know about this person if they love her hairstyle and they think she's great
Starting point is 01:31:18 cool like they're they're a little kid they're allowed to have their interests of course but you know are if you're saying that like some deep intellectual level, your child understands feminist theory, I think you're wrong. I don't think that's true. All right. Let's go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. And ladies and gentlemen, at just past midnight, I will be officially 37
Starting point is 01:31:47 years old. It has been many rotations, revolutions around the sun, and so I really do appreciate all of the support and all of you who are members at TimCast.com. If you would like to support me or get me a gift for my birthday, I ask only that you become a member at TimCast.com, and in exchange
Starting point is 01:32:03 I will give you access to exclusive members-only segments, which we will have tonight. At around 10, 10 p.m., we will go live on the front page of the website. You click that link. Members-only live stream just for you guys. And the memberships, I got to be honest, too. You're noticing a lot of layoffs in the tech sector. You know, the revenue drop is hitting everybody. And ad rates are dropping rather significantly. You'll
Starting point is 01:32:26 notice that we didn't do any ads last month. And I think we have a couple this month, but less than we normally do. And I think that that's one of the reasons why I don't want sponsors to be our customers, corporations. I want members to be. So we rely on you as members to keep the boat afloat. If you like the work we do, become a member, and that's what makes all of this keep running and all of our expansion programs and investment opportunities, everything we're trying to do. The coffee shop is currently
Starting point is 01:32:51 in the works. We're going to start doing this investment or grant program where once a month we give 10 grand to somebody who's going to be doing some kind of cultural endeavor. That's quite literally,
Starting point is 01:33:02 for those of you who are members, when you buy a membership at TimCast, I'm literally taking $10,000 of that and then giving it back to somebody who's going to be doing something that helps expand the culture and win the culture war. Because I legit mean it when I say, I don't care about big boats or mansions or whatever. I want to do stuff that wins the culture war and makes the world a better place. So I'm really excited for that. We were talking with Kash Patel and we're trying to figure out the best way to do it. Maybe I'll just write a check to some random person like,
Starting point is 01:33:31 oh, hey, it's a cool project you're doing. But we want to do it in some kind of formal way and then make a show where we can promote the cultural endeavors of the individual. So if you want to help us with all the weird stuff we're doing, become a member. Can I apply for that for my legal fees?
Starting point is 01:33:44 Well, the idea is like, to win a member can i apply for that for my legal fees well it's the idea is like we to win a culture where you need culture you need someone making music making painting pictures making art doing magic or whatever making cartoons like if someone's going to do a comedy cartoon show or sketch comedy like that's the kind of stuff we need more of if we're going to win a culture where you need it can i tell you something we're doing can i tell your audience about it yeah so uh people may remember in 2018 i launched walk away campaign which is a testimonial campaign people were making videos telling their stories about walking away from the democratic party uh we grew to over 510 000 people in the facebook group and they had
Starting point is 01:34:18 literally tens of thousands of videos and written testimonials on facebook pulled the plug banned us all the content was gone uh deeply disturbing and sick. So I've been working for the last two years and my team has been working very hard to build our own social media platform to relaunch the walkaway movement. It's called walkaway social. It's amazing. I really, really want people to get behind it and support it. Totally free to use always will be. But it's it's available now in the Apple app store. It will be available for available now in the Apple App Store. It will be available for Android users in the Google Play Store, I'd say, by the end of the week. And people can also sign up on the web at walkwaysocial.com.
Starting point is 01:34:53 But it's awesome. I mean, we already have thousands of people joining. We already have dozens of new walkaway videos that have started in just the last couple days since we launched. And it's really cool. And I think people are going to enjoy using it. So I want to encourage people to get on walkaway social. Right on. Let's read some super chats. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:35:09 Steel X Wolf says, Hey, Tim, you should pay attention to what may happen tomorrow at University of Buffalo. Michael Knowles is going to speak and it's getting pretty tense here. Similar thing happened a few months back. Shout out to Michael Knowles. He's doing good work. They're lying about what he said. Of course, he said he wants to. They're lying about what he said, of course. He said he
Starting point is 01:35:25 wants to see transgender ideology eradicated from public life. He then, he literally says the ideology is bad, blah, blah, blah. And they're trying to make it seem like he's calling for murder or something, which is just absolutely not true. He's talking about gender ideology. All right. Agamemnon's Jim Bag says the narrator on desantis's video sounds like they are straight out of south park did you guys see what happened with desantis today no he did a presser exposing the the book ban hoax where he played a video showing what was in the books that have been banned it's not books it's porn and the imagery was so like graphic that local news outlets turned their cameras off and Twitter censored the video. He couldn't even show the news.
Starting point is 01:36:12 The news was like, whoa, whoa, we can't put a picture of full-on dude-on-dude intercourse. Yo, some of the images in these books, I can't even describe. Because it's like, you get censored. YouTube will lose their minds if I explain what images in these books, I can't even describe because it's like you get censored. Like the YouTube will lose their minds if I explain what's in those books. When the Florida don't say gay lie began, I started getting I was totally on DeSantis's side and I was kind of, you know, out there sort of advocating for the his bill and what they were doing. But and I started getting reached out to by conservative parents and saying, you know, talking about some of these books that are in the schools.
Starting point is 01:36:48 And one person was saying to me, it's got images of this and this and this. And I, you know, look, I'm a conservative. My audience is conservative, but every once in a while,
Starting point is 01:36:55 somebody reaches out to you and you're like, okay, dude, calm down. Like that's not happening. And, and I kind of pushed back and I was like, you know,
Starting point is 01:37:02 come on, that sounds pretty graphic. And she was like, she started showing me pictures and she told me the name of the book. So I ordered the book on Amazon and I was, I was like deeply ashamed that it had arrived at my house. No, it wasn't that. I'm trying to remember right now what it was called. I own it, but it was shockingly graphic.
Starting point is 01:37:21 And I mean, they, they have the illustrated images of two men in bed together and two women in bed together in a an image of a naked woman spreading her vagina yourself over uh thank you uh a mirror and stuff and i'm just like and this was like in an elementary school library. Yep. Shocking. Yep. I've become a pearl clutching conservative. That's shocking. It must feel weird to get that at your house when you're like, I don't know what it is. And I'm on federal probation.
Starting point is 01:37:57 I was like, great. This is the last thing I game in on federal probation ordering child porn, essentially. Let's read some more. We got this from Pat Meadows. I could watch The View, but Chicken City is better. I got to say, to be fair, though, the commentary on Chicken City is substantially more informational and entertaining and educational than The View.
Starting point is 01:38:18 When you go to ChickenCityLive.com and you watch Chicken City, you hear some profound stuff like... And that is more... It's better for the site better hens clucking than on the view well the things you hear on the view are shocking and disturbing at least with chicken city you can see chickens like you know i love tim dolan tim dolan's line on the view that there are many intelligent women in america but none of them are on the view well one of the things we're planning on doing with the new studio space is creating some kind of morning show for women. And it wasn't my idea.
Starting point is 01:38:49 It was a woman's idea who asked me, like, why don't you do a show where like normal human females are allowed to talk about this stuff? She's got your permission. That's good for her. Because like the view is so insulting to women and it makes them look bad.
Starting point is 01:39:00 And I'm like, oh yeah, great, we'll do it. You know, I don't know. We'll put up a couch, a camera, and then we'll have some like you know i love that moderate moms want to talk about issues in the morning just do their thing and i'm like that sounds fantastic sounds like a really good i think it'll make it'll be a big show it's been tried before but i i don't think the chemistry's been right it hasn't come off yet i think you could do it though i mean it's not gonna be me i'm just gonna we're gonna get some of the no but you would be like the barbara walters of the situation i wouldn't be on the show we just i've always wanted to do a show just provide some funding for them to do the show
Starting point is 01:39:32 yeah all right neglectful sausage says re the crying woman segment what is the core function of slavery the forced transfer of wealth from one group to of people to another excess calories equals more babies goodly whites taxing, donating to Uganda and Peru, runaway inflation for 50 years. I don't quite understand what you mean, but I did a segment earlier. There's a video going around of a woman crying. She's 36, and she's like,
Starting point is 01:39:57 I don't have time. I can't have kids anymore. I can't afford in vitro. I don't have a support system. It's too late. I can't have kids, blah, blah, blah. And it's like she's crying and she's saying, I feel so bad for her. And I'm like, how many women are going to experience this in their 30s when they're like, holy crap, I was lied to.
Starting point is 01:40:15 Like, I really want to have kids and I can't. It's too late or whatever. That's freaking me. I wouldn't know. I'm a guy. You know, guys, you could be 80 and have kids. It's weird. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:40:25 But not women. And so she's crying about it. I wouldn't know. I'm a guy. You know, guys, you could be 80 and have kids. It's weird. You know what I mean? But not women. And so she's crying about it. I feel bad. I think there are men who don't take potentially having a family seriously and do miss their opportunity. But yeah, physically, the clock doesn't run out for men the way it does for women. It just runs out the ability to actually spend any time with the children. Right.
Starting point is 01:40:39 Like if you're 60. Or find a partner to then bear children. If you're 60 and you have kids, it's like you're going to be, you know. If you're 60 and you're a billionaire, you're going to find a partner to then bear children if you're 60 and you have kids it's like you're you're gonna be you know if you're 60 and you're a billionaire you're gonna find a partner to have kids with but i i think that what you're describing i i i feel like that's there's nowhere that's more true than in new york city i lived in new york for a very long time and i think of anywhere in the united states new york city has lied to women more than anyone else because there's very much this culture in New York of like stay a kid as long as you want. And I knew a lot of girls who became women in their 30s.
Starting point is 01:41:13 And all of a sudden it was like, oh, my God, I've been living this like sex in the city lifestyle and the clock is ticking and my time has kind of come and gone. And then what do you do at that point? It sneaks up on you. Sneaking up on you. 37 tomorrow tomorrow 37 tomorrow in a couple hours technically you know if we want to break it down i am literally 37 years old because a few hours don't really matter all that much but my birthday is in a couple hours and that's true that's absolutely true i'm i'm halfway there and i don't got any kids but uh you know there's private stuff going on let's leave it at that there will be a family it's happening happening. Anyway, what do we got?
Starting point is 01:41:47 By the Fireside says, for the Culture War Shark Tank show, let TimCast members decide the winner of 10 Gs. Casting a vote could cost five bucks, and each contestant gets a portion of the generated money based on the number of votes received. You know what we can do? That's a good idea. Halfway. Maybe I'm interpreting this wrong, but the idea that TimCast members get to decide who gets the money is actually a really good idea and the easiest way to do it. So actually, that might solve all the problems. What we'll do is we'll take submissions.
Starting point is 01:42:15 We will then post the submissions. Maybe we can even create a form that posts them in real time. Like anyone can submit a form and it'll appear on the list and then people can choose to upvote or downvote. And then whichever one's at the top at a certain deadline just wins. And that's how we do it. So the other cool thing that we're doing is we are setting up a show called Poker with the Boys.
Starting point is 01:42:39 And we're talking with Clint from the Liberty Lockdown podcast to be the host. We'll see if we get there. I'm pretty confident we're going to have this show. And the idea is Friday night after TimCast IRL, we will all go downstairs underneath the new studio where everyone's going to hang out and play poker. It's not really a show about poker. It's more a show of after-hours hangout with beers and nachos and whatever and everybody hangs out. Poker is kind of just the fun vehicle game everyone plays where they're smack-talking each other.
Starting point is 01:43:08 But it'll probably just be another hangout podcast, less formal or whatever. I like it. The idea is, though, there's no buy-in, because everyone's like, well, I don't know, buy-in. No, no, no, no, no, no. Everybody will get a certain number of chips to play with, but the winner gets the Super Chats.
Starting point is 01:43:23 Oh, interesting. Yeah, so whatever the Super Chats end up being, it's like whoever wins at the winner gets the super chats oh interesting yeah so whatever the super chats end up being it's like whoever wins at the end of the two hours or whatever will like there you go boom you won the super chats so there's still incentive to play yeah there's a prize yeah and then it's the incentive of the audience as well if they want if they want to get people seriously invested or whatever they can super chat and then i think we we maybe do something with uh oh i mean one one idea could be giving chips to people based on who super chats for them that'd be funny oh you get like bonus chips if
Starting point is 01:43:51 someone like says like yeah people can be like no no keep filling the game keep filling the game and then they put in 10 bucks and be like 10 bucks for phil and then phil gets like you know 10 bucks in chips or whatever keep them playing i don't know we'll figure it out but uh the idea is just to have a funny hangout you know where people we'll have guests like i was talking to cash patel i was like you should come and play he's like that'd be awesome so you might see you know whatever brandon being like i have no idea what i'm doing but playing anyway and that would be what happens exactly and it'd be funny they keep giving you chips they're like don't leave the table we could do something like that it'd be silly but yeah that's the plan i'm really excited
Starting point is 01:44:25 for that all right logan culver says adrienne curry is right soviet states of america adrienne is is like basically a digital co-host at this point because she's in the chat all the time providing commentary and every like but here's the thing chat mom but every but she's she's a prominent personality in her own right so she's here providing commentary in the digital portion of the show and everyone's really excited about it so i'm it's an honor and a privilege adrian that you're in the chat so often giving your thoughts and opinions it makes people want to be in the chat that's fantastic all right string band uh band mama says tim cast irl sucks ass without lu Ridkowski. What the heck are you doing?
Starting point is 01:45:05 Yeah Luke what are you what are you doing? I thought this was Luke super chat. This is him in disguise. It probably is Luke. Luke sitting there being like this is stupid.
Starting point is 01:45:14 Luke is the best. Well you know Luke left. Slash chose to leave. And you know you know where's Seamus? I did Seamus' show just before this and I was like
Starting point is 01:45:23 he was like Jezebel misquoted me they gave one of my quotes to Ian I said you should come on IRL and talk about he's like oh I will I will that was funny though very committed was it Jezebel was it media matters or something he said Jezebel but I don't know which it was but I think it was Jezebel yeah they said Ian Crossland said this and like it was this very conservative catholic statement I'm like Ian would never say that what the I told Seamus that I thought Jezebel did it on purpose
Starting point is 01:45:46 to annoy him. Like, they don't even want to have his name in print. So they're like, we'll give it to Ian. This is really funny. He's sick tonight,
Starting point is 01:45:54 I guess. I don't know. But this is really funny. Media Matters put together a list of all of like the worst TimCast guests and I was like,
Starting point is 01:46:01 it's a best of list. But Seamus tweeted something like, I was a co-host on that show for seven months and they didn't include me in the list. And it's a best of list but Seamus tweeted something like I was a co-host on that show for seven months and they didn't include me in the list and it's like
Starting point is 01:46:09 Seamus has said things that they would absolutely use you know like he opposes gay marriage for instance like they don't put him on the list
Starting point is 01:46:16 I don't care about him they're not trying to validate him as a person well I'm really excited tomorrow Seamus is putting out a new cartoon I'm the voice
Starting point is 01:46:24 of Dr fauci so that'll be up tomorrow at freedom tunes you guys check that out what are which what are other voices do you do for seamus that's it well you're like but you do a couple though uh 99 is fauci okay it's the only role that seamus will give me and but i've also i've also voiced like antifa guy okay who talks like this or something i don't know i just feel like if fauci somehow fades into the background like what are we gonna he did and i was like seamus come on man i got a i got a good nancy pelosi you know it's like not good enough you're not in well it oh it you know the thing is that it one-ups seamus and it and it makes him look bad because
Starting point is 01:46:59 i do a very good nancy. Donald Trump is the right president. And so, you know, he can't have that level of talent on his own show. On his own show, yeah. You know, so he's got to relegate me just to the Fauci voice. But I did a cop once, and it wasn't that good, like the cop one. I don't know. I'm like, Seamus, you've got to find my strengths, you know, like Nancy Pelosi or Lori Lightfoot or whatever. Yeah, seriously.
Starting point is 01:47:24 Come on, Seamus. What are you doing? All right. Kyle Miller says, Can I get a shout out to YouTubers like Phil DeFranco that covered January 6th as the worst event in American history and now will not cover the footage released by Tucker Carlson? I kind of feel like Phil retired. You know, like he was a big libertarian guy
Starting point is 01:47:39 and he got to the point where he was like, Can I phone it in? Yeah, that's what it looks like now. I mean, sounds like a good idea. Can I hire like 10 people to do all the work for me and then you know what here's what we'll do can i just ai deep fake my videos from now on i may lose 90 i'll buy it apparently just i'll lose 90 of the viewership but 10 still good yeah and then i'll just be like i'll type into you know 11 labs no i'll type in a chat gpt write a script of tim pool complaining about chuck schumer
Starting point is 01:48:11 insulting tucker carlson then i'll copy and paste it to 11 labs then i'll just put it over an article and then there yeah there you go mission accomplished all right let's grab some more super chance here anthony curtis says happy birthday tim and many more to come have a beer There, I'm done. Yeah, there you go. Mission accomplished. All right, let's grab some more Super Chants here. Anthony Curtis says, happy birthday, Tim, and many more to come. Have a beer on me. Well, I don't drink beer, but I will have an Arnold Palmer. Very delicious, unsweet tea with lemonade. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:48:36 Do you not drink? I don't. I had a little bit of wine. Like, I'm not like teetotal or anything. You know, I just can't do it. We went to dinner. Never could. Oh, I used to drink a lot when I was like right before i turned like from like 18 to 20 just on the weekends we'd
Starting point is 01:48:50 go party but uh nowadays it's like i'll get a beer and back off a beer and i'll take two sips and just be like i physically can't drink this i just can't do it you don't feel good after i don't know it's like it just there is it is the opposite of thirst. Like putting this to my lips will be unpleasurable. I can't do it. I don't know. Just I can't. I haven't had a drink in eight and a half years.
Starting point is 01:49:12 Wow. So yeah. Good for you. Yeah. You know, I ordered wine with dinner this weekend and I took two sips and I'm like, that's it for me. I just can't. This doesn't work. It's been five for me.
Starting point is 01:49:22 I think that's five. Everybody stops drinking. I noticed that. People are tweeting about it. You had to? Oh, I had to. Bad drinker? Yeah. it's been five for me i think that's five everybody stops drinking i noticed people tweeting about it you had to oh i had to drink yeah well i'm a i'm a cocaine addict so yeah did that bring their we had to pick one or the other right you picked the smart one well i quit everything you're like i picked the thin one no no no no no i i quit everything i got sober eight and a half years ago good for you let's read this let's read this one william knoll says how did rioters carry out
Starting point is 01:49:46 the greatest attack on American democracy and they didn't even have F-15s or nukes? I know, right? Like, yo, what was up with that, huh? That was so weird. Mitch Altogether says, Tim, excited for the new song. Also, any thoughts on how to get my money back from Bandcamp? I opened up a ticket with them, but I haven't
Starting point is 01:50:02 heard back. Oh, that's right. For people who bought the song on Bandcamp, a minute what do you guys do yeah how do you get the song band camp deleted our account band camp is like still ghosting you right like they're just like not responding i think i played a portion of the song before on instagram i'm actually i'm pretty sure i did i wonder if I can play this. Oh, that's it. That's all you're going to get. No, no, no definitive conclusion. No feel good good close out but that's what the song basically is yeah i posted on instagram like a year and a half
Starting point is 01:50:51 ago a portion of the song and we've kind of just been sitting on it forever i keep hearing the title bright eyes like all the time i've been wondering when it's coming i don't know apparently never according to bandcamp we had because we have a whole bunch of songs that are like mostly to partly done and some that are done. And then when we started working on like the release plans, it takes a long time to get a song ready for release and we want to do music videos. So this one just kept getting bumped back
Starting point is 01:51:13 and bumped back and bumped back. And then finally Carter was like, dude, we just got to put this song out. And I'm like, I agree. You know, it's like I wrote 20 years ago as it is. Now it's being delayed even more. People are going to be like, it's like, like listen to the 80s or something.
Starting point is 01:51:26 All right. All right. Cage the Mick says, did you see that Baltimore is trying to prohibit anyone under age 25 from facing felony charges because their brains haven't developed yet? Wow. Wow. Did you hear that Sonny D is making an alcoholic seltzer? We just believe adults are children these days. Wait, what? Sonny D, like the drink? Yeah. They're coming making an alcoholic seltzer? We just believe adults are children these days.
Starting point is 01:51:46 Wait, what? Sunny D, like the drink? Yeah. They're coming out with a seltzer. Like an alcoholic seltzer. All right. Adam Brooks says, has China hacked Facebook? On March 7th, my girlfriend's Facebook account was hacked, and her name was changed to Vo Hao Lin.
Starting point is 01:52:02 Apparently, hundreds of people's accounts have been hacked in the same way same name all started at the beginning of the year well first off that name is vietnamese but uh that's probably what happened you just got you just got hacked it didn't wasn't really china yeah all right let's see what we got here legum at the gain says what huge cohort of children will be spayed and neutered like stray cats because they were influenced by Mr. Barbie Pouch? Somehow the great moral outrage is that people aren't receiving his narcissistic Peter Pan delusion with open arms. I mean, it's the point. This idea that like Matt Walsh is being too mean. It's like he's not being mean to victims.
Starting point is 01:52:38 He's being mean to perpetrators. He is saying like the people who are influencing and causing harm should be called out. I agree with that. And I don't think he was that mean it was this very like dadly stoic academic insult you are eerie and unearthly but what if everyone else is insulting bro i can get insulting if i find what i saw i'm gonna send it to you because i want you to see what i because if there is a circulating deepfake and... Yeah. You got to figure out where you found that. Yeah. We've all seen the Biden
Starting point is 01:53:09 one and it is nightmarishly brutal. But maybe like the algorithm sent us Biden because of the other stuff that we read whereas they sent other people the Matt Walsh one because they're like, we know you won't like Matt Walsh and this will provoke a negative reaction. I just want to see it with like a time stand or like a date posted because like anyone could make it now.
Starting point is 01:53:26 I don't want to see the original. Yeah, I'm going to look. Megan Cole says, Dylan Mulvaney was in an ad for women's deodorant on my Duolingo app today. It was weird. I just think that's a job that a woman has lost, right? Like women are talking about, you know,
Starting point is 01:53:40 not being in the workforce or having problems there. And like, what do you mean? Like the women's deodorant campaign is still in Mulvaney. Will Callicutt says, just saw someone else in the chat mentioned this as well,
Starting point is 01:53:51 but I'd love to see you bring Tom McDonald on the show sometime. I have spoken with Tom several times about a bunch of different stuff. He's an awesome dude and a tremendous talent. And he has an open invite to come on whenever he wants.
Starting point is 01:54:04 It's just an issue of he's a very busy guy. You know, everybody's, you know, it's funny. Ian will be like, yo, we got to get Brad Pitt on the show. And I'm like, okay, Ian. Get right on it. Yeah. He's got like, he has this, there's a post-it note. What does it say?
Starting point is 01:54:17 I've got one for Hassan by July. Right. It's like, okay, Ian. How many? I mean, not to mention the political hurdles there. But people who host their own shows. It's like's like hey stop doing your work and come do mine so for someone like tom mcdonald he's working on music he's promoting he's doing his thing to ask someone take time off to come here is very very difficult let alone the people who already do
Starting point is 01:54:37 like you know brandon the work you're doing so it's for someone like tom mcdonald there's a lot of people who are just we can get them we can we can get them. Otherwise, we'd have tons of these people on every single day. I mean, like Jack Posobiec lives down the street, practically, and he comes on like once every other month. We'd love to have him on every single, every day we could have Jack.
Starting point is 01:54:55 But I think Jack's coming tomorrow, actually. Sick. For your birthday? That's right. He better be bringing like keto cupcakes or something. It was going to be Matt Walsh. And I was really excited, really excited. That was going to be Matt Walsh. And I was really excited. Really excited.
Starting point is 01:55:06 That was going to be a great, great show, considering everything that's going on. Does Matt Walsh know he canceled on you on your birthday? Because that seems extra rude. That's true. That's true. On my birthday. On your birthday. Wow.
Starting point is 01:55:16 Maybe we should be mad at him for being mean. Yes, right. You want to talk about being mean, Matt? It's my birthday. And you didn't show up. How could you do this to Tim? How could you do this? Why are you being mean to Matt?
Starting point is 01:55:24 Why are you being mean to Tim, like, of all people? to tim like of all people get on side for matt and matt you know yeah all right what do we got here let's grab some more super chats uh carter banks became a member oh is that so carter so you can chat carter's like trying to explain how you get money back from band camp yeah that's kind of crazy we sold a lot of the music on Bandcamp and for people who want to be able to download the song they can't and Bandcamp is not responding
Starting point is 01:55:55 to anyone's questions right so we might I'll just say this if you purchased one of our songs on Bandcamp I would recommend you contact them about the termination of the account because they took your money. Granted, they gave the money to us, but I'm pretty sure a portion goes to them. And if you lost access to it now, and we, there's nothing in our music that breaks any rules about anything. No.
Starting point is 01:56:19 At all. Like even Genocide, the song, is like veiled in its description of what's going on. It's, like, just a generic anti-establishment song. There's no overt statements. Will of the People is just a story, and Only Ever Wanted is a love song. I'm confident there are gore metal bands on Bandcamp that talk about, like, you know, murder. Oh, yeah. But if everybody who bought one of our songs contacts Bandcamp, they might, hey, look, maybe they'll come out and be like you know what it was a glitch and we didn't realize
Starting point is 01:56:48 what happened it was administrative and then we couldn't hear you every time you tried to contact us well you know yeah you're just nice to them i think this is crazy well no i mean five times august also got removed and was like what the is going on it's like you know then bank can't block them really that's what Libby tweeted today. Oh, wow. Libby Emmons tweeted that like, they got tweeted by Bandcamp. Like,
Starting point is 01:57:09 this is very strange. Maybe Bandcamp, let me check. Because I didn't check if Bandcamp blocked me as well. I saw that this afternoon and I just feel like that's a very strange way
Starting point is 01:57:20 to do business. Well, I think considering I have so many followers and I've tweeted at them a couple of times, I wouldn't be surprised to find that they have banned me or blocked me i should i say they they blocked him is that what you said that's what i'll find the tweet from libby but she had a screenshot no they didn't block me libby tweeted it weird i think i retweeted libby yeah let me see what we got here libby where is the... She tweeted it today? Yeah, I'll find it.
Starting point is 01:57:46 I'll send it to you. I'm looking through her Twitter right now just to see if I can... Oh, yeah, look at that. Wow, five times August tweeted. Oh, wow. Okay, so it really is banned camp. That's a good one. Good one. Saw an opportunity and took it. Yeah, good one.
Starting point is 01:58:03 Equitability. Interesting. Well, go brokeband camp. We don't one. Equitability. Interesting. Well, go Brokeband Camp. We don't need you as a platform. That's the unfortunate reality for y'all. So do what you got to do. But they didn't send us any notices or messages or anything. Just the account is gone.
Starting point is 01:58:15 It's gone. But I have to wonder if there's a class action there. I mean, because we have thousands. I think we've got like maybe 20,000 people or more. Maybe 20 or 30,000. Because it was two songs two sales like 30 000 people that's a lot of people to be really angry band camp about you taking away something they paid for how i was supposed to get access to it
Starting point is 01:58:35 now yeah with no explanation like at least send out a generic oh we'll think about your request but no yeah let's see if we can muster so the the pre-sale link we have right now in the description below for the new song bright eyes is amazon which sucks because amazon's not great either but they didn't ban us and i really don't think they would all right sksnz says yo tim how about a shout out for my political cartoon works at sk's cartoon chances are you've already seen some of them my goal is to quit my job and do the cartoon full time. Well, we got to get that email thing set up for submissions to support these kinds of works. Yeah, we do. You know, get more freedom tunes, you know?
Starting point is 01:59:15 More competition for Seamus. Yeah, seriously. More competition for Seamus. That's right. All right. Let's grab some more super chats here. What do we have here? Chris says, I have PCOS and one of the meds is an anti-androgen to lower my testosterone levels.
Starting point is 01:59:29 My doc said I can't take it while pregnant because it will affect the baby. Interesting. I wonder what the testosterone levels will do the baby as well if it spikes. And that's polycystic ovarian syndrome. Is that PCOS? Yeah, that's PCOS. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it makes women produce more testosterone or something
Starting point is 01:59:46 yeah and there are complications with your uterus like scar tissue and stuff like that brutal it's very painful for women who suffer from it and it can cause all kinds of issues all right let's uh let's grab some more john forge's happy birthday i've owned the website the house of the people for over a decade the The vision is such a huge task. I'd love to work together and share ideas. We will check it out. Thomas Sidebottom says regarding Bandcamp, this is why subscription services for entertainment content in general is a bad idea. If you want something, own it. No, here's the thing with Bandcamp, you bought the song and then you clicked download. But let's say you want to download the song on a different computer or later because
Starting point is 02:00:25 you paid for it. You can't now because they cut you off. So what did you pay for? There's probably a lot of people who bought the song and said, I paid for it so I can listen to it here on Bandcamp. I'll get it later. And now you can't. So Bandcamp, what are you doing? That's interesting. I wonder to what degree that's a breach of contract. All right, my friends, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends and become a member over at TimCast.com. Click the join us button over there. And we're going to have a live stream set up in about 10 minutes for the members only portion of the show, uncensored, not very family friendly. And we really could use your support
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