Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #732 Feds CAUGHT Destroying J6 Evidence, Defendant DEMANDS Mistrial w/Jack Posobiec

Episode Date: March 10, 2023

Tim, Phil Labonte, Libby Emmons, & Serge join Jack Posobiec to discuss an FBI agent caught lying about January 6th in court, new twitter files showing the government censored people for being vaccine ...hesitant, Alex Stein suing AOC, and Colin Kaepernick calling his parents racist. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So the federal government made a big whoopsie today and apparently got caught trying to destroy evidence in the Proud Boys January 6th case. It's a very crazy story, but apparently the evidence, we don't know exactly what it was, but we know that one of these agents said they were instructed to destroy evidence and remove an individual's involvement from the evidence, meaning there were, according to this, agents involved in January 6th. At least that's the evidence they destroyed. I'm going to go ahead and assume that it is 100% true, considering they tried to destroy the evidence, and we only caught the records of the destruction. I wonder what they were destroying and why. Because of this, one defendant in the case is now demanding a mistrial. So we'll talk about that. Plus, we got another crazy story. This one is a congressional
Starting point is 00:00:51 testimony from Matt Taibbi and Michael Schellenberger. This is really interesting. We've got a new Twitter files showing that there was an attempt to censor true information, according to these documents, true information that could cause vaccine hesitancy. That throws all of their arguments out the window. It's not about misinformation, malinformation or disinformation. They quite literally were saying behind the scenes they intended to shut down the truth. So before we get into all that, head over to TimCast.com, click that join us button and become a member. Ladies and gentlemen, I only get one day a year to really hammer this in.
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Starting point is 00:02:28 Smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Jack Posobiec. Well, Tim,
Starting point is 00:02:35 I'd just like to thank you for being so inclusive and allowing federal agents like myself to join the pod, the fettiest fed, the glowiest glow worm of them all. Yes,
Starting point is 00:02:47 here I am. And, and I'd like to let you know that in addition to hosting human events daily, everything that I'm wearing right now comes from my pillow.com. Is it, is that true? That's actually true. The shirt and everything.
Starting point is 00:02:58 This is my pillow. Sweet sleepwear. These are the my pillow pants. And, and, oh yes, ladies and gentlemen okay i have some of those the my slippers those are actually really great it is like wearing little pillows attached to your feet with every step you walk on liberal tears you actually cannot
Starting point is 00:03:16 be upset while wearing your pair of mice i actually do have a pair of those i ordered a couple for me and my girlfriend they're actually really really nice. I actually love them. It's like having a little pillow. So every step, you're like, oh, wow, that's great. Ridiculously soft. So nice. All right, Jack, thanks for hanging out. And we also are joined by Jack's boss.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Yeah, technically. Not Chris Ray. That's my other boss. Other boss? Are you really his boss? I don't think that's true. Yeah, I'm the editor-in-chief of Human Events and the Post Millennial. So it's actually very exciting.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And I get to work with Jack all the time, which is awesome. Right on. Well, there you go. We got Phil Labonte hanging out. Ian's taking the night off. Hello, I am Phil Labonte, lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. Serge? Yo, I am at Serge.com. How are you guys? Hope you're well. All right, let's jump into this first story ladies and gentlemen in what may be one of the most shocking revelations from january 6th thus far julie kelly who is just on this show this past week says breaking drama in the proud boys trial yesterday after fbi agent caught lying on the stand and concealing evidence from defense attorneys not
Starting point is 00:04:23 only that the messages the long story short of it, this agent thought they were deleting messages from their, what is it called, the link system? The link system, yeah. And they were actually just putting them in like a hidden tab, which the defense found and were like, wow, you lied about all this. And there's even messages where they say things like, delete the, I've been ordered to destroy evidence. This one's really important. One message says, an agent made a request to special agent Miller to, quote, go into a CHS informant report that
Starting point is 00:04:53 Miller just put together and edit out that the agent was present. So hold on a minute. This is a January 6th seditious conspiracy case for the Proud Boys. And there was a special agent. There was some kind of federal agent present with these people. Well, that's it. That's evidence of federal involvement right there. Now, here's the crazy thing. The story from Politico says this assistant U.S. attorney Jocelyn Ballantine, who is supervising the case for the Justice Department, acknowledged the likely spill of classified information Thursday morning. She raised particular concerns about a message sent to
Starting point is 00:05:30 Miller by another agent who works on covert activity and who said she did not work on the Proud Boys case. Oh yeah, I believe that. Describing a supervisor's order to quote, destroy 338 items of evidence. That's a huge number of evidence.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Destroying any evidence is huge. Listen up, folks. Listen up, folks. I've been instructed by my friends down in Washington, D.C., to let you know that those pieces of evidence were totally immaterial. You don't need to worry about those 338 or the 400, excuse me, 338 pieces of evidence that were destroyed. Don't even ask any questions. By the way, I love the fact that they wrote down, they wrote in an email.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Oh, by the way, my boss told me to destroy all this evidence. Like if you're going to delete your evidence, don't go ahead and, you know, write an email to somebody about it. If you're going to do something illegal, don't tell people you're doing it. You know, there's a line in The Wire of that, and it's Stringer Bell, and he's like, are you taking notes on a criminal conspiracy? And he grabs the notepad and tears it up. You know, I'm kind of
Starting point is 00:06:36 worried that we're sitting here all laughing, having a good old time. Meanwhile, this is direct evidence of the utmost government corruption. I mean, these guys are being tortured. I'm curious, how long has this been going on? I mean, when we see this kind of corruption, when we see this kind of definitely illegal activity of destroying evidence,
Starting point is 00:06:53 how long has the government been behaving this way? Has it been the whole time? Is it only recently? I would assume probably the past hundred years since Jekyll Island and who was it? I would assume... Woodrow Wilson? Yeah, I mean, I think... I mean, Hamilton was pretty nefarious. It's not like the government would ever lie to us years since Jekyll Island and who was it? I would assume. Woodrow Wilson?
Starting point is 00:07:07 I mean, Hamilton was pretty nefarious. It's not like the government would ever lie to us about something like a war or domestic terrorists. But it's sort of shocking to continuously be made aware of the fact that the government is entirely full of crap. I mean, this was the FBI. They were founded by J. Edgar Hoover. I know, but it's like... To this level, I really
Starting point is 00:07:23 think that it's something that's probably come in the past 15 years. Like this level, this level of corruption. Yeah, because of how much information we all just openly put out on the Internet and how easy it is to monitor us. I think that this is fairly new. There's probably been the desire. You do have the FBI wiretapping and stuff in the past, but I think that it's probably 15 years as it has really been, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:50 since the Snowden revolutions were, revelations were what, 10 years ago now? I think so. 10 years this year. Yeah, so, you know, 15, maybe 20 years. There's been an increase, I think, since Obama in like general level of trusting the government too.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Well, so I think it's a little both because I do think there's a part of it That's been going on from the start but I I think what's more powerful now and Elon has actually been been talking about this is that Now we have the ability to share this information and we have the ability to talk about these things directly in ways that like we can live tweet from inside a federal courtroom about what's going on. And then that gets shared at mass scale because of Twitter. And then the people behind the scenes would have to be able to respond to that versus, you know, a cub reporter writing that up and it goes in some local paper somewhere.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Now we have the ability with distributed networks to actually be able to share it very quickly. Number two, because of the Patriot Act, and the high level of technological sophistication that that Snowden and others have been able to prove and show to us and people I used to work with at the fort, they become very stupid, right? So they're extremely powerful, but they don't need to be sophisticated anymore. So you get these dumb levels of operations that never seem to go anywhere or these stupid cover stories like this Nord Stream 2 thing.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Oh no, it was this pro-Ukrainian group and they just expect everybody to run with that because back in the day, that's how it used to work. They would just hand something to the New York Times, New York Times would put Operation Mockingbird, the New York Times would print it and then everybody would just go off of that because that's the paper of record. Meanwhile, nowadays, you can be on Twitter and actually go
Starting point is 00:09:35 in and say, wait a minute, like, I know a guy in Denmark, and he says that he was near the pier the night that that happened, and this is what he saw and so instead of this uh or post a video of it or and post a video of it i actually said that the night of the bin laden raid um you can actually go back and find that the most significant thing that happened that night in 2011 wasn't necessarily that the united states government conducted a covert operation okay that happens. But it was that there was a Pakistani guy, or excuse me, no, Pakistani guy down the street live tweeting it.
Starting point is 00:10:11 He said, hey, a helicopter just flew over my house. Hey, there's guys getting out. Hey, there's all these explosions and gunfire. What's going on? And he's live tweeting. He's actually live tweeting the bin Laden. I hope the thread is still up somewhere. Live tweeting the operation in real time. I said, that's the future right there that's the future because
Starting point is 00:10:28 now i think it was i want to say it was christopher hitchens or somebody uh said this recently um or you know brought this up recently that he said he said i don't read newspapers and said well why do you read newspapers well because i know people in these various industries and therefore i get the information before the newspaper. That's Twitter. That's social media. Well, yeah, because local news can become national in seconds. To a certain degree, the federal government is attempting to frame the Proud Boys.
Starting point is 00:10:56 I should say they're literally trying to frame them. The seditious conspiracy thing is ridiculous. Wasn't there an agent who said they didn't hear anything like this? Or what was that about? Yeah, there were early on. And I think this also came out because Julie Kelly was reporting on it on Twitter. She's amazing. Yeah, she's spectacular.
Starting point is 00:11:11 And there were some documents. Can we steal her? Right? Let's do it. Yes. Yeah, so there were some documents that she had posted where FBI agents or whatever, federal agents, had said that they were with the Proud Boys
Starting point is 00:11:26 and that they were like embedded with them and that they heard absolutely no evidence of pre-planning of January 6th at all. And so they make this up. Here's the crazy thing. And the FBI had also said that there was no evidence of pre-planning. Initially, it was this guy Dominic Pizzola
Starting point is 00:11:41 was charged with, I think, trespassing, parading, and like vandalism or something. He broke a window. He broke a window. Well, allegedly. Because he's not been convicted of anything. And then they came later, like a year later, and added seditious conspiracy. And I think the reason they did that was because they kept saying insurrection over and over
Starting point is 00:12:00 again. And everyone on the right correctly pointed out, yeah, nobody's been charged with anything related to any kind of insurrection. then all of a sudden miraculously enrique tarrio the leader of the proud boys conspiracy yeah and they're i think the only ones if you do a search like you can enrique tarrio who by the way wasn't at january right yep wasn't in jail yeah he was i think so that's so federal custody and you can look mean, the DOJ has all of the case documents up on the website. There's like 944 cases. And if you do searches, you can do searches for like assault. There aren't that many of them, you know. And here's the issue, right? So here's the issue to go back to,
Starting point is 00:12:36 because I saw some people out there saying, well, these, you know, these videos that Tucker put out and this bid, it doesn't change anything because we've seen the other videos and we've seen the committee and we all know what happened that day. Here's what is significant about those videos. And we can talk a little bit about it because I do know something about the larger trove of videos that is coming, by the way, that of those, what was the number you just said? 944. 944 people. How many of them have actually been charged with anything violent, anything seditious?
Starting point is 00:13:11 About 10%, I believe. Maybe 10%. And so the other 90% of this are people that were walking around, that were taking pictures. Norm MacDonald had that tweet up where he said the violent terrorists are abiding by the velvet ropes and statuary. Right. Yeah. And and that's exactly right. And so you can be nuanced enough to be able to say that, yeah, there were, you know, a certain amount what, you know, 75 people, 100 people, let's say that that did get out of hand and it was hooliganism. But the vast majority of people there, it was just a crazy situation. People had the doors left open.
Starting point is 00:13:50 People were escorted in. Jacob Chansley had the doors left open. You see the big old bird saying it should be illegal to report this stuff? She also said it was Orwellian because she has the reverse dictionary. So she doesn't understand what that means. See, I love when they do stuff like this.
Starting point is 00:14:06 More of it. More. I want more censorship of like Goosebumps and Matilda. That's what they're doing. It's so insane. I want Whoopi Goldberg to just 24-7 keep going. Like keep her on air all day long. And this is something you showed me yesterday was Amber Athey's piece in Spectator.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Oh, it's so wonderful. About Politico's banned word. Can we steal her too? Yeah. Yeah, that's funny. Politico, pregnant persons. Yeah. Because she's got a book.
Starting point is 00:14:31 She's got a book. Look, we're laughing as the problem's getting worse. Yeah. Government corruption, wokeness. It's sort of amazing to me that it keeps getting worse even though everyone keeps screaming louder. Well, it's like the whole like it's it's the squeeze because people are starting to notice. Like, all this stuff had been moving in this direction. It had been really kind of under the radar until COVID kind of brought it to kind of everyone. Well, between COVID and George Floyd.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Well, because then everyone saw it. Everyone saw it in their kids' classrooms. Exactly. Everyone saw it after the massive, what do you always say? Hierarchy, not hypocrisy. Yeah, it's hierarchy, not hypocrisy. That after Floyd was killed, it's okay to go protest against racism, but otherwise stay in your damn house.
Starting point is 00:15:12 You can't protest the lockdowns, but you can protest racism. They called all those Michiganders who protested in Lansing racist for going to the Capitol saying that they should get to open their nail salons. Speaking of federal agents. They said racist,
Starting point is 00:15:29 and that's the thing. People started racist and that's the that's the thing people started to notice that wait a minute there is nothing racist about going to the store and people see and that's that's what it was normal people started to say having church at walmart yes it's like there's nothing and people started to say hold on this is this is really getting out of hand because this is literally the excuse for everything now. And so I think that that's a big part of it is these things really kind of were flying under the radar. And then when the George Floyd riots happened, people were just like, hold on a second. How is, you know, leaving your house because of COVID racist?
Starting point is 00:16:00 I don't get it, you know? Well, none of it makes sense. You know, this is what we were talking about the other day. I don't see any logic to their plan other than it's fire right we can control combustion for a purpose like driving a car you know we use the make the car go forward very very simple but uh if you don't have a control mechanism for that that's the process i like that but if you don't if you don't have the control mechanism, then it's just burning everything down. So there is this energy from the left,
Starting point is 00:16:29 and it is just chaotically destroying, consuming, and burning with no rhyme or reason. Yeah, I think it is doing that. You don't think that they have a... I think that they're looking for specific outcomes, and they don't understand that the outcomes they're looking for are going to be really destructive. They keep talking about it.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Maybe the young dumb ones. The new executive order that Biden just put out looking to advance equity, focusing on equitable outcomes. I think the real purpose is just to burn the machine to the ground, to destroy it all. And then afterwards, who knows what you're going to get, Chinese communism, something like that. Do you think they know that their goal is to destroy everything? Yes. I think at the higher level, so a lot of people think they have this goal, which is this leftist postmodernist goal.
Starting point is 00:17:11 I don't think so. I think they have a technocratic goal. I don't think they even know what it looks like. Well, I think it looks like COVID social credit scores, COVID passports, Chinese communism. And they're using this postmodernism as a burn, a controlled burn to destroy the system, to gut it from the inside. That way they can start moving in their elements of social credit systems and things like that. And to stop anyone in their way.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Right. Right. So you look at, take January 6 as not a singular event, because take 6th as the culmination of everything that happened in 2020, plus, you know, six days, right? So you have, you have COVID, you have Wuhan, you have the CCP, you have the masks, you have the beginnings of, you know, we can't talk about hydroxychloroquine, which became we can't talk about ivermectin because it's horse medicine. Then you have the George Floyd riots, which we're not allowed to talk about, mostly peaceful. Then you have Antifa. Then you have Chaz. Then you have the Hunter Biden laptop. Then you have the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop, all of which culminates in January 6th. So January 6th,
Starting point is 00:18:21 which, by the way, you take all of that together, if that was another country, what would we call it? We'd call it a color revolution. Let me pull up this story. We've got this tweet from Matt Taibbi, the Twitter files. Twitter files number one statement to Congress, the censorship industrial complex. And he posts this image. It says, quote, true content, which might promote vaccine hesitancy. He elaborates in tweet number 32. In one remarkable, remarkable email,
Starting point is 00:18:46 the Virality Project recommends that multiple platforms take action even against stories of true vaccine side effects and true posts which could fuel vaccine. I'm sorry, which could fuel hesitancy. None of the leaders of this effort to police COVID speech had health expertise. Here you can see the information being released, standard vaccine misinformation on your platform. And it goes on to say, true content which might promote vaccine hesitancy, viral posts of individuals expressing vaccine hesitancy, or stories of true vaccine side effects. This content is not clearly mis- or disinformation, but it may be mal-information, exaggerated or misleading.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Also included in this bucket are often true posts which could fuel hesitancy, such as individual countries banning certain vaccines. I will say right now, the things that YouTube does not allow us to say may very well be true, and they know it, and they ban you from saying it anyway, because the people at YouTube are evil people. Marjorie Taylor Greene got banned for sharing vaccine information that was self-reported from the VAERS system, which is a federal database. Steven Crowder, I think, got two YouTube strikes for discussing CDC data. True information that could promote hesitancy, they said. Which, by the way, the VAERS database is the industry standard.
Starting point is 00:19:59 That's the one. Right. Because I remember talking to someone who does R&D in pharma for decades. And I said, well, if the VAERS database, because we kept getting fact-checked, right? You kept getting fact-checked if you posted something from the VAERS database. And I asked the question, I said, well, is this true? Should we not use the VAERS database? Where do I go?
Starting point is 00:20:17 And they said, well, of course we use the VAERS database. What else would we use? Doctors tell people that that's where they should report it. Yeah. The big issue is from all of this, well, I think we all knew, but now we have definitive proof. I should say there's at least an effort internally with the big tech government and this collusion to censor real information from the American people. Obviously, I think everybody who watches a show like this and you guys and everyone who
Starting point is 00:20:44 works for or reads websites like yours or watches a show like yours, everybody knows. You know what I mean? So how do we get that information to these people who are living in bubble world? They don't want the information. The bubble world people do not actually want facts. They don't want to know.
Starting point is 00:20:58 And when you give them the information, when you say, hey, actually, here's some facts, they say, no, that can't be because that doesn't make any sense. And it's like, yeah, this doesn't make any sense. You voted for these people. This is what you wanted. You want to live in the bubble. Now you are in the bubble.
Starting point is 00:21:14 And I'd just like to say these people who are pushing all of this stuff don't think any of it's going to apply to them. I remember so distinctly when the ACA came in and there were the Obamacare mandates. And at the end of the year, you know, if you didn't have the proper health insurance, you got fined a whole bunch of extra money. And all of the lefties that I was hanging out with in downtown New York, they were very pro-mandate for the health insurance. And then they all got fined because they didn't have the proper health insurance because everyone was a broke-ass artist,
Starting point is 00:21:41 right? So then they're like, wait, why am I getting fined? They don't think it applies to them. During the pandemic, you'd go downtown, everyone's hanging out, drinking, whatever. The masks don't apply to them. They want to push this stuff on us and stay in their bubble. They are the vanguard. They're the banality of evil. The banality of evil, exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:01 And they know. Like the random Nazi guards who are just sitting there scratching their butts waiting to go home. These people will gladly vote for your destruction and oppression and then just ignore the rules when it applies to them and go out. There's that viral video from New York. It was really funny. It's like this street corner with a bunch of bars that are open and everyone's hanging out in the street and they're drinking. They don't care at all.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Defying all of the rules. I went out. And no police enforcement. And I was pissed at those people. Yeah. No enforcement. This is why we call it anarcho-tyranny.
Starting point is 00:22:29 That's correct. Right? So you have this, you have people who will vote for tyranny on those, you know, so if like, okay,
Starting point is 00:22:39 total hypothetical, but like Tim, if you or I, let's say we were going on a commercial flight and we had a knife. Like, we're done. You're going to get arrested.
Starting point is 00:22:47 You're definitely going to get arrested. You're probably going to get federal charges. Bro, we've been swatted 15 times last year and they've done nothing. Precisely. We've had this studio evacuate for three hours because of a bomb threat. Right. So that's exactly what I was going to get to. That if someone's on the other side and committing actual crimes, nothing will happen to them.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Yep. Whatsoever. This is the system of anarcho-tyranny, which gets to what you were saying before, that the establishment is harnessing this energy. It comes from Tumblr and it originated there and it got through the media and now it's out spilling across TikTok like crazy, like wildfire. And of course, the Chinese Communist Party is just like boost boost boost boost boost because they want to demoralize our society which goes back to what you were saying libby that someone who's been this is yuri bezman off right someone who's been
Starting point is 00:23:34 completely demoralized will not accept accurate information you can take them to russia you can show them the gulag they will not believe you it's kind of michael knolls was on i just saw this clip was on whatever podcast and he was talking about how he's like yeah i i met my wife when we were 10 we were kind of on again off again for a while and then we got married now we have a couple of kids and and they were looking at him with that like it's like the fluoride stare right just like just so confused right just confused like like are you and then they asked him is are you joking with us are you are you messing with us Just so confused, right? Just confused. And then they asked him, are you joking with us?
Starting point is 00:24:09 Are you messing with us? And he said, no, that's just the story of me and my wife. And I get that sometimes when I talk about Tanya. And I say, we met at a Bible study. And he said, OK. Like, come on. No, you didn't. You guys met on some.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Your handler knew her handler. And then you came and said, no, we met at a Bible bible study you've told me the story it's very mutual i i some of the people that were at the study still follow us today and you know we're all still friends etc and so it's they actually can't believe that these type of things go on because they're so used to the world that's perpetuated by hollywood this hookup culture this world that's perpetuated by Hollywood, this hookup culture, this world that's perpetuated. For example, there was a video and I've talked about, you know, Yellowstoning, which is like the new the new thing. But there was that video. I guess it was a Ron Perlman movie. And he's he's walking up to a gas station and I guess he's in the south somewhere.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I shared the clip recently. And these guys and it's it's it's footage, right? It's not it's not supposed to be real and there's a couple of white dudes in a in a pickup truck with a confederate flag and he he grabs the flag off and he says you know something man that offends me you know why because i read my history and those guys were losers and that's what you are when you fly that flag you're a loser right and he throws it and gets in their face and like grows and I'm like, I've never had a couple of guys at a gas station like that. A cost me flying a giant, like this, this world doesn't exist except in Hollywood movies.
Starting point is 00:25:35 And it's liberal left-wing fever dreams that are perpetuated to make people think. And then of course, Oh, that's exactly what I would do in that situation. Except that world doesn't exist. No, I've never seen anything like that. I grew up in the Philadelphia area. Let me tell you something. The gas stations that I was looking over my shoulder at, I wasn't looking for a couple
Starting point is 00:25:52 of dudes with a Confederate flag. I've never had that situation. And I've been all over the country. I've never had this situation happen, ever. Maybe that's because you were the dude with the Confederate flag. How about that, Jack? Mic drop. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Why are you flag checking me, Tim? why are you flag checking me tim why are you flag checking me on your birthday i would love to do a bit where it's like he grabs the flag and throws it on the ground he goes you guys are losers and the guys just go hey hey come on man you know what you're trying to have a good time you know you know i'm just getting my gas over here well we're leaving we don't got no trouble with you and like that's the reality of what probably would happen they'd be like yo yo like what are you doing man why are you throwing our flag on the ground but that's the reality of what probably would happen. They'd be like, yo, yo, like, what are you doing, man? Why are you throwing our flag on the ground? But that's the thing, right? Is my point is that that's how they view fly over America.
Starting point is 00:26:29 That's how they view places like Ohio, places like East Palestine, where, you know, just get rid of their jobs, shit their jobs to China. Who cares about them? Who cares about the South? They're all redneck. The only time, by the way, the only time that you see the Midwest or the South depicted in Hollywood other than a scene like that is horror movies. And you're like Stranger Things, right? Which is obviously horror.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Because anyone worth anything in those places would have already left. That's the attitude. That's literally the way. So true. That's the way that they behave. So true. Because, I mean, I see it in the music industry and stuff like that. There are some bands that are like, man, I love going to the Midwest
Starting point is 00:27:09 because that's the salt of the earth, real people and stuff. And then there are some bands that really like the coasts because the snooty, we're better than you people are like, they're the trendy bands. And you really see that kind of attitude. They really do think that the people that are worth anything have left the midwest because why would you stay why would you stay and i and by the way i say that as a guy from the cut libya you're we're both from the east coast i'm from massachusetts yeah i grew up in western mass like you you don't get much more liberal than
Starting point is 00:27:37 that you know nothing western mass i grew up when i started playing shows i was playing shows in northampton that's where smith college is like that's where my yeah i grew up, when I started playing shows, I was playing shows in Northampton. That's where Smith College is. Wow. Like, that's where my, yeah, I grew up living, like, it was the 90s, so it wasn't like it is today. But, like, you know, I grew up with, as progressive, surrounded by the most progressive people that you could come up with in the 90s, you know? Those are very progressive people. Yes. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:28:00 So, I was actually, I was talking to this FBI, former FBI agent who was out in Portland in the summer of 2020. And he said that the when they got their mission briefing, once they got out there, the officials in Portland were like, you know, but we have to live out here. So that's why we got you guys out here. We're not going to do this work ourselves. We're very in favor of our activists we really believe in their free speech and when he turned in a report showing that um legal observers were actually running cover for protesters they nothing ever happened they like didn't even acknowledge that's not progressive anymore though no that's not progressive that's like tyrannical that's that's that's authoritarian you stop liberally so i do want to before we before we get off gen six i do want to to throw it out there because
Starting point is 00:28:49 i i tease this and i don't want to i don't just leave it out so this whole question about hey what's up with the rest of the tapes right what is up with the rest of the tape so this this plan about giving giving tucker access first this is something that i've known about since you know second week of january going back so that this has been totally in the works but what people need to understand is that there is a national security review going on right now with all of the tapes and it's not just 14 000 hours it's 42 000 hours and it's all going to come out. And every piece, because, okay, from a national security perspective, I'll put on my fed hat here for a second, right? You can't actually show every person that's going in and out of the SCIF, right?
Starting point is 00:29:35 Because you might have people that are in cover that are going in there that are checking this out. You can't show every route that they take the speaker and the vice president, et cetera, because there's safe rooms and different areas and things like this. So they want to be careful with stuff like that. But as pertains to the actual people coming in, I've been told that as much of it as possible is going to be coming out. They're reviewing all of it.
Starting point is 00:29:59 This is from people close to the speaker's office, that it's something they didn't actually have as a priority coming into this. It wasn't like some deal or something like that. I don't want to say it wasn't a priority. Let me rephrase that. But they realize how important this is, and they're actually making sure that they can send as much out as possible. I think that's amazing. I think people are actually going to be very happy when they see what comes out. Do you know, did you see what McCarthy said today? He said, because he was talking about this,
Starting point is 00:30:29 he said, you know, that Tucker just had a few and that they asked Capitol Police if there were any concerns and they came back with one about like exits and things like that. Exactly. And then McCarthy said, but it was interesting that one that they had a problem with, Eric
Starting point is 00:30:47 Swalwell, had had up on the internet for the last two years showing that part. Right. Because, so, I mean, this is, you know, JFK and Dealey Plaza, right? To know the specific route that a principal is going to be taking before they take it is an obvious security risk for anybody. McCarthy said also that Pelosi's daughter had shown the January 6th committee the exact route to take from the Speaker's office. They showed the route. They showed the safe house on Fort McNair. So all of that is blown now. So now you have to completely change that because now that's
Starting point is 00:31:21 just blown. So if let's say you're some terrorist group, like an actual terrorist group, and you want to set up something like this, well, guess what? Now you know where all the principles of the US government are going to go. So from a security perspective, the Capitol Police, and probably in conjunction with the Secret Service,
Starting point is 00:31:37 because remember the vice president was there at the time, are now going to have to completely revamp all that. They're probably going to have to construct things. I mean, some of this stuff is permanent fixtures in terms of how they design for security. And now if it's out there. You mean kind of like when there was an attack at the White House in May of 2020 that we don't even talk about anymore? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:54 What did you guys make of Benny Thompson saying that he and the January 6th committee didn't have access to the footage? No, he didn't ask for access to the footage. I think that was BS. I think it was, that was basically him admitting that he didn't take the time i was the head of the committee of course he could have looked he didn't check it out he didn't go and look they didn't care none of them adam krenzinger and liz cheney and all these people not not a single one of them actually took the time to go down and watch they were too busy producing their prime time
Starting point is 00:32:21 you know punitary punitive special let Let's talk about the censorship industrial complex. This is a story from TimCast.com going into greater detail on the congressional hearings we saw with Matt Taibbi and Michael Schellenberger. They say Schellenberger, along with his former Twitter, with fellow Twitter Files reporter Matt Taibbi, appeared before the select subcommittee on the weaponization of the federal government regarding their findings in the Twitter Files. Quote, I've never worked on an issue where so frequently while doing it, I just had chills going up my spine because of what I was seeing happening.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Schellenberger said, I never thought in my own country that freedom of speech would be threatened in this way. It's just frightening when you get into it. It's amazing because the Democrats and what was it, the delegate woman, not even a member of Congress. Yeah, were smearing and lying and acting like this stuff isn't happening right before our very eyes. With Tucker Carlson, he puts out video definitively proving the police give an escort to Chansley, the Q shaman, walking him around the building, trying to open doors for him. And the media comes out in lockstep, along with Mitch McConnell.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And they all say, no, no, don't believe your lying eyes. Tucker Carlson is speaking against the, what should we call it, the enclave. Right, and the White House said he's not credible. That's right, so don't listen to him. Now we have Michael Schellenberger. Don't believe your eyes. Yeah, don't believe your eyes. We have the Twitter files, definitive evidence that the government was working in tandem.
Starting point is 00:33:43 There's portals. Twitter built a government reporting portal, and then I see this Democrat being like, files definitive evidence that the government was working in tandem there's portals twitter twitter built a government reporting portal and then i see this democrat being like was there ever any instance where the government demanded they take something down and schellenberger's like yes he's like they are directed them take it down he goes they did he goes they emailed saying like hey flagging these for reviews oh they're just flagging them though okay thank you for clarifying you think a request is a demand these people are just so duplicitous too oh i know it was insane i mean it was actually one of the most lit congressional hearings yeah it was crazy in a
Starting point is 00:34:09 while it was really you actually watched the whole thing i watched the whole thing yeah i mean hannah can tell you let me play this clip here we go here we go who this is plasket to praise him for his work this isn't just a matter of what data was given to these so-called journalists before us. Now, there are many legitimate questions. Look at Matt Taibbi gives this look to Michael Schellenberger like, did she just say so-called journalist? Legitimate questions about where Musk got the financing by Twitter.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Kind of like she's a so-called congresswoman. She's not. She's a delegate. She's not even a congresswoman. You ready for this? Clown show. So Glenn Greenwald tweeted this 18 seconds. He should have tweeted the full thing because Matt Taibbi mentions he's got 30 years in the industry.
Starting point is 00:34:49 It was amazing. Here's what he said. That time was spent at Rolling Stone magazine. Ranking member Plaskett. I'm not a so-called journalist. I've won the National Magazine Award, the IF Stone Award for Independent Journalism. And I've written 10 books, including new york times new york times bestsellers um i'm not yeah there you go you don't even listen to his answer right jim jordan in the background just being like oh my goodness these people are
Starting point is 00:35:15 evil there's just there's just no question and you know now that ian's not here you know what i say when the cats are away the muscle but now that ian's not here we can all sit here in agreement the democrats are evil right yes yes absolutely they're in furtherance of moloch now ian's sitting in his room going like i should have been on the show tonight i wouldn't i wouldn't say evil necessarily you wouldn't say withholding exculpatory evidence i would from the public doing that is evil i would say doing that is evil so you don't think the people who did that were evil i don't know i hesitate to put judgment on a person's heart. You know I'm a softie like that.
Starting point is 00:35:48 So you're saying that you're pulling me in here. I believe in redemption. Yeah, I believe in redemption too, but I got to tell you, a person who acts, who engages in evil activities is an evil person. I think they should probably be put in prison. I mean, these are criminals. Look, man, there's a guy who goes into a bank and he robs it
Starting point is 00:36:07 demanding $1. And then the cops come and they say, sir, you're under arrest. And he explains the reason he did it was because he has cancer and he can't get
Starting point is 00:36:15 medical treatment, but if he's in prison, they'll be forced to give him medical treatment and he didn't want to die. Maybe he was trained. And that is not an evil person. That is a horrifying story
Starting point is 00:36:23 and a very sad one. But he committed a crime and he should go to prison. You have people who are hungry or who typically want or need things. I would not call that evil. If a guy goes to a supermarket and he steals some food because he's hungry, I wouldn't call that evil. Evil, John. If a guy goes to a supermarket and grabs food, brings it out back and destroys it because it's funny. And he does it in front of starving people. I would say that's evil.
Starting point is 00:36:45 That's evil. Yeah. And that person is evil. I would say that Stacey Plaskett and Sylvia Garcia, I think they are stupid. I think they are stupid, moronic people. I think they're evil. I don't think they even have enough sense of personhood to be evil. I think they're just completely stupid.
Starting point is 00:37:01 It's the banality of evil. They're so stupid. Like Sylvia Garcia, the Texas representative. You're saying useful idiots? Yeah. Well, let me ask you a question then. I don't even think useful. evil i think they're just completely it's the banality of stupid so okay like sylvia garcia the texas representative saying useful idiots she yeah well let me ask you a question she's out there she's talking about like oh did you file this with twitter first she doesn't even know how twitter works ian said the other night that he thinks i asked him what evil was and he said strangling a cat because you you're you enjoy watching it suffer that's an evil action you you think a person who strangles cats for fun is evil they go around doing it consistently knowing it's wrong if they find pleasure enjoying
Starting point is 00:37:28 it yes i think intentionally what if they were developmentally disabled and they were laughing strangling a cat is that evil you mean like enough mice and men when lenny kills that girl i i don't know i guess was lenny evil i mean i'm ste, I'm... In the Steinbeck? I don't know. So if a person... Like, does a level of intelligence absolve someone of their evil actions? I wonder if it does. That's an interesting question. I say no.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Does evil require intelligence? I do not think so. I think whether... Any kind of... Like, there is a degree of evil in cats. I knew that. Cats torture other animals for fun and pleasure not for sustenance so but we think we know this we know this about them are cats evil yep i mean
Starting point is 00:38:12 to a certain degree to a certain degree they are so i'll put it i'll put it this way i'll put it i'll put it this way i disagree i think they might be dogs can't be dogs can't be so so i'll put it this i'll put it this way i'll put it this way that if is is that person evil in their heart be if they're not making that decision themselves of their own volition um yes that's that's a moral question but if you are on the receiving end if you are someone who is subject to a regime that's controlled by people like stacy plaskett if you are subject to a a pitbull attack from your neighbor right then it is within your rights to act to stop the evil which is occurring to you i just got to give a shout out to brett ain't dead in the member chat
Starting point is 00:38:57 saying no cats are based and then they're posting bocas emojis look we like cats but there's like a degree of there's like a hundred cats here, by the way. I've watched Bocas sit outside, staring at a crippled mouse that he crippled. And then it's laying there, hyperventilating and shaking. And then when it gets up and slowly starts crawling away,
Starting point is 00:39:16 he stands up and gets ready. And then when it runs, he whacks it again. And then it just sits there and starts shaking again. Oh, that's... And I'm like, yo, cats are evil, dude. That's like so's so like horrible
Starting point is 00:39:25 he's not hungry so he doesn't need to destroy it was just fun because it's suffering that's right cats do that cats i knew this woman in college and she told me about her dad who when their cat had friends of dating girls like that we like cats though because he can't hurt us and put them in the freezer and killed them in the freezer that's evil too i think that was evil i knew this man who was but what but were they were they mentally challenged the cat or the dad the dad i don't think her name was jessica but she was from new zealand actually so the way she said it was jessica i mean look when it comes to when it comes to the law we we actually don't hold someone responsible for a crime if they are developmentally or mentally disabled. We actually say, you know, this person is not capable of going on the stand and defending
Starting point is 00:40:08 themselves. The actions they committed were outside of their understanding. So we're not going to put them to death. You know, I don't, there was this woman, you see this woman who killed her children and now she's, her attorneys are saying, well, she's mentally ill. In Massachusetts? Yeah. So she shouldn't face the death penalty.
Starting point is 00:40:23 That's the way, man. It's brutal. I think that's evil. I think even if you're mentally ill, you can be evil. If I think about it in terms of mothers who kill children. I think people can be redeemed. I think people can be apologetic. I think people can realize what they did was wrong.
Starting point is 00:40:37 But I... I think she belongs in a mental institution. If you commit evil acts, you are evil. I mean, I'm shocked she hasn't killed herself. I think she belongs in a mental institution. that's what we'll say with that. What they did to the January 6th defendants is definitively, undeniably, factually, objectively evil. Yes, I think that's true. They withheld exculpatory evidence, violating their rights, violating the law for personal gain, causing suffering to another person.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Well, and they did it in order to bash and destroy. For personal gain. Other, like just the rest of Americans. They did it to hurt all of us. They did it to criminalize the Trump movement. And they did it to criminalize the MAGA movement. And they did this as, as I was saying earlier, there was a, we experienced a domestic color revolution in 2020.
Starting point is 00:41:22 All the hallmarks of, whether you want to talk about Maidan, which Tim, I know you were, you covered live of whether you want to talk about Maidan, which Tim, I know you covered live, whether you want to talk about any, we're seeing elements of this in Tbilisi right now, in Georgia, that this was a domestic color revolution. And some of the same people like Norm Eisen, we may still be living through elements of it, were admitted parts of it. The man who wrote the book on color revolutions and he's in the Time magazine article, which came out one month after January 6th, like the serial killer writing the letter to the police, I got you and you will never catch me. and then signing it because they want credit for their work. So when I see all of these things happen together, then January 6th comes out as a sort of, it's almost like a psychological justification used by the regime
Starting point is 00:42:13 in order to say, well, this is why we had to do all of those things. Don't you see we had to protect you from this terrible movement? We had to protect you from these people, these 71 million Americans who are all domestic terrorists. We're going to criminalize this movement. We're going protect you from these people, these 71 million Americans who are all domestic terrorists. We're going to criminalize this movement. We're going to get rid of you. That's why, and you're seeing, but you actually are seeing elements of the symptoms of the effects of this from the Republican Party now, because you're starting to see the more establishment types are trying to go back to Reagan. They're trying to bring him back up again. You know, we're really
Starting point is 00:42:44 the Reagan party. You're even seeing Eisenhower. I'm seeing people do this now, like a lot of Zoomers with, they always have a Ukraine flag in their bio and they say, I'm an Eisenhower Republican, right? It's like, name one thing Eisenhower did. And I don't know why everybody likes Reagan so much, to be honest. And then gun control and no fault divorce. I'm not interested. Yeah. Plus mass amnesty. Well, and gun control in order to make it harder for black Californians to own guns. Yeah, like what?
Starting point is 00:43:05 But the point being is, it's not about Reagan. It's about someone who's not Trump. It's about someone who is popular, who's not Trump, that we can go back to and use as a way to shade against Trump, which is funny because originally the establishment hated Reagan. They were all behind the Bush family. And that's why you had that election in 1980, the way you did with where Bush becomes the vice president
Starting point is 00:43:26 after running an extremely hard race against the grassroots populist candidate, which may be something that we see again very soon here. I say for no reason whatsoever, that they are attempting to make it painful. And Tim, you talked about this once before. You said, if you're watching the mainstream, when you were talking about the 2020 election,
Starting point is 00:43:50 I really appreciated your diagnosis of what happened, that you had a group of people in this country on the left that listened to the media and said, all of these terrible, horrible things were happening. And they kept ratcheting up the pressure, ratcheting up the pressure, ratcheting up the pressure, the pain and the psychological torture.
Starting point is 00:44:03 And then said, if you just vote him out of office it'll all go but no no but more than that they then knocked on your door and said all of the suffering you're enduring as you're locked in this building is because of trump here you go here's the ballot to fill out and they would say you got it but let's talk about the story here ladies and gentlemen one man was standing up and fighting back for all of us one man and that man is alex stein primetime 99 99, suing Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez because she blocked him on Twitter after he called her his favorite big booty Latina. This is what it says. I'm just reading the news, guys. He said his favorite big booty Latina on the steps.
Starting point is 00:44:40 She got mad. She blocked him. He's suing her. And this could be interesting because it was previously ruled trump couldn't block people and if you're a public official you couldn't block people she blocked him now he's suing her is uh is this the kind of culture warrior that we need right kind of yeah and deserve i think alex time is really hysterical he uh we covered this today at the post millennial can i read you his comment about it? Read his comment. He said,
Starting point is 00:45:05 I love and care about this country so much that I am able to put aside my political differences and try to come to the table with all politicians, especially AOC, because we align on more things than she probably thinks. And I want to be able to communicate to her through Twitter because it's the modern day digital
Starting point is 00:45:22 town hall and political free speech is the most important protected speech in my opinion. That was all just the one sentence. And then he said, I love AOC and I hope she can find it in her heart to unblock me. Oh, wow. I think Alex Stein actually does really good work in that it's cultural, it's fun.
Starting point is 00:45:43 He's not even really conservative. If you've ever listened to his actual policies, he's been on the show. He's fairly moderate or even liberal in some regards. But this is the reason why I think this story is interesting. It's very anti-NASA, if I remember correctly. Yeah. That's a wild policy. We argued quite a bit about how the moon, about the moon landing.
Starting point is 00:45:59 He does not believe it happened. Obviously. Wow. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Yeah. A bunch of globetards out here that's what they say globulists globulists there's a funny video where a guy does an experiment there's actually like 50 videos of people doing these guys doing experiments to prove the earth's flat and they accidentally prove it's round and they're like wait a minute how is this happening one guy went on a plane and he's like because the earth is round the plane will have to dip down every so often to like you know to level out which means if he if he films this leveler you should see the bubble moving right
Starting point is 00:46:29 and then when he doesn't see it happen he's like that proves it and it's like dude does not understand how it works gravity works i've been in planes all my life man i've never seen a curve no curve anyway anyway anyway you know people are complaining about matt walsh saying he's too mean and i don't even think he was that mean and uh seeing like alex stein he alex stein's like a one-up on matt walsh i mean you could say matt walsh is direct but alex stein like really grinds people's gears like he he goes in front of the protesters there are people who hate him yeah he oh yeah i love when he goes in front of the protesters and he's just like hi he's so here's what he does here's the technique the important component of this i love the technique this is the important component of this
Starting point is 00:47:05 the important right the important component that people need to understand about what alex stein does is that he doesn't insult them yeah he laughs says i love you and he's too tall for them to block so he holds the camera up and then he just starts saying i love you you guys and he's smiling and it drives them insane it is one of the most brilliant tactics so if y'all are concerned about matt walsh we got out alex stein right here but let's be real alex stein pisses people off way more than matt walsh does his tactic is more infuriating because it's hard to counter it he's just having a great time there's uh there's this old there's this old movie called a thousand clowns anyway at one one of the kids, he says in the movie, he says,
Starting point is 00:47:46 what are you going to do with someone who has a wonderful time like that? And that's exactly what's going on with Alex Stein. What are you going to do with someone who's just out there having a wonderful time? There's an issue on, and speaking as like, I don't know, the right or whatever. There's an issue on the right where people just want to be boring. They just hate fun. And it's been like that for a long time. CPAC? And I had fun at
Starting point is 00:48:10 CPAC. I had fun. I've read nothing but it was very boring. Well, I had fun with Jack, but we had fun. I don't know about everybody else. We had a blast. I can speak for myself. I had fun. But I'm just saying in general, there's an aversion to fun.
Starting point is 00:48:27 You can't use fun tactics. We need Paul Ryan up there talking about contra Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security and this little Mervis Bowtie Act that he used to do. Look, even Turning Point USA's event was all suits. I think the only people who didn't wear suits on stage was like me and Ian. And I don't think Ben was wearing a suit, but like everybody's wearing, yeah, everybody's wearing some kind of dress up. Well, that's like the uniform, man.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Yeah, but how are you, like, does that, does that image attract young people to want to be involved in what you're doing? And I think not really. It all depends. If your suit is like, you know, like a lawyer's suit, that's one thing. But if you're looking like, you know, like a lawyer's suit. That's one thing. But if you're looking like you saw the audience, that's pink and periwinkle or whatever. And a big top hat.
Starting point is 00:49:10 You might, a lot of people are gonna be like really excited. There just need to be more parties at these things. More parties, more events. McGregor looks great when he wears a suit, right? Like he's walking around all, you know, they need to do more fun stuff. They got on O'Keefe for being fun, right? They tried to go after O'Keefe for being fun and doing music and trying to break out of this.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Look, not for nothing, but I have another job where I'm in a band. And we've been around for a bit. And I was putting the flag up in the early part of the teens. Like, hey, I'm into Liberty. And I was big the flag up in the early part of the teens like hey I'm you know into like liberty and and I was big on Ron Paul in 2012 and I was like looking for conservatives that were interested in talking about that like about my band and stuff and nobody was nobody was listening and the left hated me because I was you know the, the left was just as, you know, as left as they are, you know. So it's something that the conservatives and the right has to get their act together on.
Starting point is 00:50:13 And it's like when you've got people like the Daily Wire and like Tim and stuff like that trying to make culture, the other like establishment right, they're lagging behind and they have been for a long time. Didn't rogan just open a new comedy club yeah comedy mothership i like that name yeah interesting how comedians like i wonder if we can do an event russell brand or like you go to the older you know the the norm mcdonald clips that are coming out or even george carlin old clips will come out and it's it's like comedians have this ability to tell more truth and actually move the needle better than Ryan Long when he does stuff to move the needle and actually get this stuff across better than. Well, that's like with the people on the right. That's like with Alex Stein.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Right. Yeah. Because it's funny. Like if you're having if you're laughing, you know who else is going to come in a lot, a lot easier. Donald Trump. Donald Trump is funny. He's very funny. It's going to come in a lot easier. Donald Trump. Donald Trump is funny. He's very funny. He's a comedian.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Anybody who's ever been to him giving a speech, he's doing stand-up. It's crazy. Well, and he feeds off the crowd. He's great up there. It is. George Carlin was comedy with some politics. His is politics with comedy. But you're laughing the whole time.
Starting point is 00:51:23 It's crazy. It's a fun time. One of his final interviews, he actually says that. It's, I think, with his sister-in-law up in Canada. politics with with comedy but like you're laughing the whole time it's crazy and norm mcdonald one of his final interviews he actually says that it's like i think with his sister-in-law up in canada and he was talking about how he actually he kind of catches himself so norm is in is in the interview and he says he's like you know i i went to see trump at one of these great i mean you know not not that i went i mean i just i just want to see what it was like right he kind of catches himself before he just admits to going to a Trump rally. I love Norm.
Starting point is 00:51:46 And he said, I went to see him do one of these speeches. And anyone who's been in the circuit knows exactly what he's doing. That it's a stand-up routine. He's putting on an act. He's got his material. And what's great for him is that so he's able to use whatever's going on in the news cycle can then feed into that. And it was even better is that so the reporters in these, if you look at it through that framework, the reporters become like hecklers. And so they're heckling him. And of
Starting point is 00:52:18 course, the greatest one of these, the greatest exchange is, you know, the one reporter and she goes, he goes, All right, yeah, you asked a question next. Look at her, she's shocked. She's in a state of shock that I called on her. And he goes, I'm sorry, I wasn't thinking. It's okay,
Starting point is 00:52:31 I know you're not thinking, you never do. Excuse me? Excuse me? No, sorry, I asked you a question. Go ahead. Make it a good one.
Starting point is 00:52:38 I went to that White House Social Media Summit. I was the only one not wearing a suit in the White House. Oh, really? You went to that? Yeah, I was with Bill Ottman.
Starting point is 00:52:49 My goodness, I have so many questions. He just gave a speech and then we didn't really do anything nothing got resolved i thought there's gonna be a real conversation like memes like posted up and stuff yeah yeah yeah like twitter posts like on tweets and stuff like that it was really funny and uh but we were just laughing the whole time i mean he was doing stand-up. One of my favorite things is when he was like, the lights, they make me look orange. You know, I'm like, he just, he knows. He's a funny guy.
Starting point is 00:53:12 That's a huge thing with him, though, because he's been doing media for so long that before you do an interview with Trump, he will sit there and say, let me see how I look. Let me see that. Let me see the look. Do I look orange? No, I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Turn that light off. Turn this one on. Turn that one off. Wait, off wait no angle this down he'll do all of that because he gets it he gets how that system works and he knows that image is everything so so i heard jfk nixon debate yeah yeah the 1960 yeah exactly cpac is supposed to be the big deal and all i've heard from people was that it was stagnant. It was boring. Not many people showed up. I had someone say that 10 years ago they went,
Starting point is 00:53:50 you couldn't even get a hotel room. This time they showed up a day right before the event and there were tons of hotel rooms available. Like nobody was coming to it. And that's kind of worrisome, I would say. But there's got to be... Well, it's not an election year. So that's part of it.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Still, I mean, there's's gotta be, well, it's not an election year. So that's part of it. Still. I mean, there's gotta be some energy. Something's gotta bring some energy into maybe CPAC is in the answer. Maybe there's gotta be some kind of like, I don't know, coalition. It's also, I mean,
Starting point is 00:54:17 I will say this though, is, is that CPAC? I mean, I think that, I mean, that's kind of what, what America Fest was basically.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Well, but I mean like music. Yeah. Oh, you mean literally with music tom mcdonald bryson gray five times august all about it i would love that i was talking about that because i was talking to him about how he was banned from band camp um who bryson uh five times august yeah and i felt you know i find it really i know there's a ton of streaming platforms out there. It's not like, you know, it's not like you have to just pick one and that's the only one out there. But I do find it surprising
Starting point is 00:54:54 the way that tech companies and culture spaces are shutting out people that they just disagree with. And what I also found surprising is that Bandcamp has not replied to anybody. Did they ever get back to you? No, i think we're gonna sue band camp has not replied to anybody did they ever get back to you no i think we're gonna sue them um you know normally you never say these things like you just file but we're in a different kind of political landscape and cultural landscape so i think the current plan is we're exploring a crowd fund and potential class action i think you know for us timcast music had probably 25 000 sales and uh through
Starting point is 00:55:28 band camp it might be like 10 000 or something so it's 10 000 people well the issue and then you've got well then you've got five times august bryson and bryson gray bryson gray mentioned he was banned as well i don't know why they've given us no reason they have an absolute termination clause but i'm not sure that matters for the people who purchase the product they can no longer get access to they can't yeah so the idea right now is i'm talking with a prominent uh lawyer on censorship issues and i said i you know what do you think breach of contract we've got customers who can no longer access a product they've paid for and we have no vehicle by which to refund them because it went through Bandcamp, and Bandcamp terminated our accounts without notice.
Starting point is 00:56:08 So there's a problem right here now. People are like, hey, I bought a song. I can't get it. Okay. Which is breach of contract. That sounds like it for sure. So they have an absolute termination clause. They say, like, we can ban for whatever reason, but that might not actually hold up in court.
Starting point is 00:56:23 You can say whatever you want. It doesn't mean anything. What about for the users to pay the money? Exactly. Right. So they still have accounts. They're still expecting to get what they paid for, and they have no access to it.
Starting point is 00:56:31 So our account needs to exist. Isn't this what happened? They can make an argument that we can't upload to it or control it, but the people who bought the music still need to be able to get it. So long story short, the general idea is going to be to create a crowd fund that would go directly to the legal team not to anyone else involved for the purpose of the of defending this upwards of item i'd imagine probably going to be in the 20 or 30 000 people right it could be a class action suit
Starting point is 00:56:55 because you've got bryson gray's fans i haven't talked to any of these people but bryson gray five times august and tim cast the combined fan bases who purchased music through that platform it's going to be in the tens of thousands. It's going to be a huge lawsuit. Isn't this similar to what they did at Patreon? Yeah. This was the Olin Benjamin lawsuit with Patreon. Yeah, and there was...
Starting point is 00:57:15 So we'll see. Here's the thing. I don't know. I personally feel that they have breached contract between the customers, between us. They've done it for unjust reasons. personally feel that they have they have breached contract between the customers between us they've done it for uh unjust reasons that they they can we can do whatever we want whenever we want but like you i i'm not sure that's true so what we're going to do is and if they had a reason they could say what it is and they haven't and i and i think it's simply put you know you'll often hear from
Starting point is 00:57:40 lawyers they'll say something like there's no point in filing the lawsuit because you won't win anyway blah blah blah well that's not what we're hearing now what we're hearing now from these teams is we actually need to pursue this stuff to figure out what the precedent is on this kind of breach of contract but we need the money for it so i said okay what if we did a crowd fund and then we just got i don't know what if we got a million people to give 10 bucks and just put 10 million bucks in the coffers of a legal firm to. Oh, that'd be nice. They could do a lot with that.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Well, we could then truly figure out if these companies are truly engaging in civil tort violations or whatever. And then we could actually get some judges to issue rulings on whether or not they are allowed to do these things. And I'll put it this way. The left wants to sue that baker in Colorado into oblivion and they keep doing it. Yeah, I'm down to play the same game. I'm pretty confident that between all of the followers that I, the Daily Wire, anybody else has, post-millennial, they'd be willing to pitch in 10 bucks to a law firm. None of us will go anywhere near the fund.
Starting point is 00:58:40 I would throw 10 bucks in for that. And then let the law firm just explore anti-censorship lawsuits. That would be amazing. So I was talking to- We'll see where it goes. Five times August, too. And he started doing some digging into who the people are that work at Bandcamp. And it's a whole bunch of pronouns in bios, doofuses, who are making these decisions.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Big shocker. Which is exactly what we found out at Twitter, that it was all these contractors, these third- party contracting, you know, trans activists who were like, I don't care about any of that. You can't say that. That has no bearing whatsoever on my contract with a company and the customers. And I agree. And that so they can believe whatever they want to believe. And maybe the reason they took us down is political. All I'm saying is, I think we need to have a judge issue a ruling on this.
Starting point is 00:59:24 And it could be simple maybe we issue a initial you know filing and then the judge says no look their terms clearly outlined your agreement sorry have a nice day okay well now here's john smith who purchased a song and can't get it he has a lawsuit oh by the way here's jane smith she purchased a song she has a lawsuit every single individual who now has no access to a thing they paid for and we have no vehicle
Starting point is 00:59:47 to refund their money anyway. Well, we got to figure this out. So I'm thinking we get $10 million to a law firm, have them start filing away. I don't know if class action necessarily is the right approach. I don't know the rules.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Sometimes they force a class action. I think the appropriate thing is that some people gave different amounts of money because you could give as much money as you want so maybe the the best approach is to have a bunch of individual plaintiffs maybe 3 000 lawsuits filed all at once at you know just there you go and then we'll figure out what the uh and then just go from there yeah yeah so we'll see though we haven't done anything yet uh i'm talking to a lawyer and it's it seems like there's like there's it seems like what you're saying is you don't want to just you
Starting point is 01:00:31 don't want to just make videos complaining about the double standards you actually want to do something and take well there's there's there's some other big news coming up that's crazy that's you know we're gonna do that we're gonna do a show on one of our culture war episodes which is the friday morning show at youtube.com slash Tim cast. And there's going to be a big announce coming soon about the efforts we're taking in defense of free speech. So stay tuned for that. And then there's this one, which I think we've just got we can't keep falling on.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Well, you know, it'll cost too much money. So there's no point in trying. It's like, well, look, I think they breached their contract. So let's at least have a judge decide. That's the point, right? And even then, you're costing them time, you're costing them effort. Oh, no, no, no, no, nothing like that, nothing like that.
Starting point is 01:01:13 If the judge came out in two seconds and said yes or no, I'd be satisfied. The question is, we have not gotten definitive answers because whenever it comes to some kind of censorship case, lawyers always say, it'll be too expensive, it's not worth it. You lose. And I'm like, okay, well, can we at least try?
Starting point is 01:01:28 Like, there's no point. Okay, what if we got a crowdfund together? Well, it depends on what your goal is. The goal is to hammer out definitively what are the rules. Right, so then there is a point. Because a baker is forced to bake a cake or whatever, and they keep suing them nonstop. That is insane how they keep suing us.
Starting point is 01:01:44 But then at the same time, the left says, we can ban you, but you can't, you know, is forced to bake a cake or whatever, and they keep suing him nonstop. That is insane. But then at the same time, the left says we can ban you, but you can't ban us. I'm like, okay, let's just stop arguing about it and have a judge decide, which is a fundamentally different argument, though, because you can say because in all of those instances, how many bakeries did you drive past before you found that one bakery, there's bakeries in every single town. With the internet and the way that it's set up in many of these cases, you have monopolies. You have many natural monopolies. And this is a fundamentally different situation. That's why Elon buying Twitter is so important because there is only one Twitter. I have Truth. I have Getter. I have Telegram. But you know what? Twitter is Twitter. And no one's going to knock that off.
Starting point is 01:02:27 This is the fundamental difference. And this is why you can't apply the same logic because it is apples to oranges. Yeah. And it's interesting, too, with the left, because they're perfectly comfortable censoring books, censoring R.L. Stein, censoring Roald Dahl. But they refuse to allow conservatives to take porn out of schools. We just had an entire hearing with Taibbi and Schellenberger.
Starting point is 01:02:49 It shows exactly how willing they are. And this is a huge difference between the left and the right in this country, is the left has moral clarity and the right is scared to argue from a position of this is good for society. And we see this all over the place. We see this like, well, we have to be a little more nuanced about it, perhaps and it's like no i kind of am done with that it's it's it's ridiculous no it's you always want to play they always want to play within the left frame they always want to use liberal frame they want to say well like use the same stupid language the same the same language that we're going to argue about well i heard that you know is this freedom is that freedom so i'm going to use it just just stop stop apologizing for western civilization stop apologizing western civilization is the best civilization it's
Starting point is 01:03:29 amazing by the way it's the reason we don't have child sacrifices to the the you know the sun god anymore okay so i don't know the sun god seems pretty pissed off lately we didn't have winter this this year you know so maybe i was someplace i had pretty bad winter though something colorado got hit we didn't get any snow here right now. We had no snow at all. My son was asking me that. He was like, Daddy, when is it going to snow? Because I want to make a snowman. You had no snow?
Starting point is 01:03:50 Well, I mean, I'm only about an hour from here. So, yeah, we had, I mean, flurries. That's it. I went snowboarding, and it was a brown mountain with white strips going down it from the snow machines. Did you go up in PA? No, we went to Timberline. Okay, because we we drove up to pa we drove up to pa a couple of times and it's exactly like that there's uh there's white
Starting point is 01:04:10 tail in pa i think it's in pa yeah there's white tail there's liberty there's round top yeah and it's like you'll be driving through mud and then yeah it's like mud mud mud mud mud snow but cool cool thing though is and libya i know i sent you the videos of this we actually got four-year-old jack jack up on skis for the very first time and i know he and his brother aj are watching so jack jack you did a great job skiing buddy then that member then fries pizza french fries pizza french didn't that uh that beaver look at his shadow and it was supposed to be winter for a long time or something like that i don't remember no i think that was pete budaj and what he was. Unfortunately, it wasn't a shadow. It was the shadow of another derailed train.
Starting point is 01:04:48 It wasn't his shadow. It was the smoke from the toxic smoke that blocking out the sun because he signed off on a chemical attack on the Midwest and the people who live there because they voted for Donald Trump. And he said, oh, don't worry about that. We're totally fine if you and your progeny die out because we don't want you anymore. Yeah. Yeah, they definitely don't. Yeah. Well, I think in terms of culture war issues, there's a couple of things that need to happen. And making culture is one of the most important things.
Starting point is 01:05:15 And then lawsuits. Because the left is doing lawsuits left and right. Of course. And the right has like some sometimes. The right will sit there and complain about Mark Elias. And I sit there and go, well, Mark Elias wins. Where's our Mark Elias? Where's this guy?
Starting point is 01:05:29 Oh, the left is ballot harvesting. They're beating us with ballot harvesting. Where's the right's ballot harvesting? Why doesn't the right have- Trump said we're going to get really good at it. Yeah, he said that. Trump finally, and I'm not going to say finally. He did.
Starting point is 01:05:39 He came out and said, he quote, truth to me on this. And I said, because I said, why doesn't the right have is there a distributed nationwide network of physical congregations? OK, I'm giving it away now. people who are at least center right, that meet weekly. Perhaps. Throughout the entire year in every single state in this country that the right could utilize for the process of ballot collection. Yes, and it's called churches. Don't try to reinvent the wheel.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Ballot drop boxes in every single state where it's legal, period. Make it happen. Every church? Yeah, but you've got to increase church goership. There's a massive amount of it there's there's tons of it's it's as is as high as it was no but america is like the last christian nation if you tag this into every evangelical churches i'm talking about traditional latin masses i'm talking about um you, et cetera, et cetera, right? Anywhere where you can go that's willing to do this.
Starting point is 01:06:47 And there was in Orange County, California, where the Republicans kept getting their butts handed to them because of ballot harvesting, which is traditionally Republican area. They started doing this in the churches out there. And the left, the Democrats, were suing them over this, saying, oh, you can't do that. Why? What was their reasoning? I mean, they've been coming up with every reason under the sun. You're not doing it properly. the Democrats were suing them over this saying, oh, you can't do that. And they said, why? Why? I mean, they've been coming up with every reason under the sun. You're not doing it properly. That's a temporary drop box. And then the pastors kept pointing out and saying, but the laws you wrote allow for all of these things because you allow that for a nursing home
Starting point is 01:07:18 or you allow that for a grocery store or the street corner in LA, et cetera. Or the casino or the liquor store. And they used their own laws against them to be able to say, and guess what? Lo and behold, all of those seats in Orange County flip back red. I feel like this country is in desperate need of religion. I think that's true. Tim, I couldn't agree more.
Starting point is 01:07:41 I was sort of interested in that. I know you and I disagree a little bit on this, but there was the revival in Kentucky at that school for a minute. No, no, no, I don't disagree. I think it exactly shows that yearning for substance. It's this desperate need for spiritual fulfillment. I think because of liberation theology, that even if you have a resurgence of religion, you could very easily have
Starting point is 01:08:05 the same problems with marxism right now well yeah there are marxist church well i mean we do have issues in the catholic church yeah right now there's there's significant issues we're dealing with that in colorado yeah right i saw there's significant issues with marxists in catholic church or not just catholic churches but in churches, and it's all liberation theology, and it is just as vulnerable. Well, it's not just in the Vatican. Look at the Pope. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:08:32 He's literally one of these guys. Because he came from South America, and he's from Argentina. And what you're talking about, though, is it's still, it's a political materialist ideology that has nothing to do with actual religion. I disagree. I think that it's a plant religion for a lot of people.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Yes. You could say it's a plant religion. Sure. It's a pseudo religion. It's like. But it's not a theology. It's like watching a mannequin come to life and start walking towards you and you know it's not a person. It's like being a duck and then seeing a decoy duck and thinking it's a real
Starting point is 01:09:05 person yes that's what wokeness is in terms of that's what i'm saying that's the thing it is a false religion but it performs the function you're you're you're praying to something that is not real i understand that you are that you're a believer and so so don't i don't want wait sorry to interrupt can we can we like co-opt the woke like can we make the symbol for wokeness a golden calf or something like that is that offensive yeah that's a great idea like like ball yeah and so but but my point is though that it's it's that in in that type of religion it's it's a religion based in materialism which a true religion would not be based in materialism right i mean is of course what the golden calf was based in correct it's it's sort of is. For the average person, yes. But people like James Lindsay are talking about a lot of the old religions
Starting point is 01:09:50 that it's kind of latched onto. And so it's not so much as secular as most people believe. Well, I think it's pretty secular. It performs the same function as religion now, though. Yeah, but I mean it's just there's been some little replacements, right? So instead of worshiping God, you worship yourself. Instead of believing that you have a soul, you believe you have a gender. Well, I mean, I don't really.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Yeah, identity is part of it. But the thing about identity that is so important in the identitarian movement is it's not enough to identify as something. You have to be claimed by the others who identify as that thing as well. Yeah, I mean you have to be accepted as part of that group. And so to be accepted as part of that group, there are identitarian rites of passage.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Let's make little buttons that say stay woke with a golden calf on it. Yeah, that's not a bad idea. And they might embrace it. They might love it. Golden calf with a rainbow behind and they might embrace it you know they might love it yeah i mean it's golden you know what it could be it should actually not be a golden calf it should be a golden unicorn um golden calf yeah you like it you like the just the i get where you're going with that i get the connection yeah you know all right you know but some of the point that i would
Starting point is 01:11:00 say is getting the rules from god and then he comes down and he's like what are you guys doing what is this what the heck is this and he smashed came back and he's like, what are you guys doing? What is this? What the heck is this? And he smashed the tablets and then that's why he couldn't go to the promised land. The way you fight this liberation theory, though, which is an issue, obviously, is you have to get back to actual orthodoxy. And actual orthodoxy has nothing to do with that. It's we will not covet my neighbor's goods. Thou shalt not. Literally one of the commandments.
Starting point is 01:11:26 So right there, you just beat people over the head with that, that you are not coveting. If you were being covetous, if you were saying that person has more than me and I hate that person because they have more than me and you're making up all the, which is what, which is grievance politics. And this, this is what all of communism is. All of communism is just attacking people for having more, for being more successful by degenerate freedom. I want to start off a new segment real quick.
Starting point is 01:11:51 And I want to pull up this story. But before we read this or show it, I want to ask Jack a question. Do you know the Ten Commandments? Can you recite them? I'm putting you on the spot, man. Right now? Yeah. I know.
Starting point is 01:12:06 You just get them all. It's like trying to remember every state or whatever. I could do that, but I probably couldn't do the commandments. But there's one. I'm Lord your God. You shall not have no God before me. Shall not take God's name in vain. They're actually in sections.
Starting point is 01:12:23 There's the sections about your relationship with God. There's the sections about your relationship with God. There's the sections about your relationship with yourself. I want to read the story, but before we do, I need you to name them until I can tell you to stop. Are they father and mother? Boom, stop right there. Now read the story. Who can read that one? Oh, I saw the story today.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Can you read the headline for the people? Colin Kaepernick calls his white adoptive parents racist because they told him as a teen that cornrows looked unprofessional and that he looked like a little thug. That's why I asked you about the commandments, because honor thy mother and thy father. And he's like, not. Yeah, so this is dishonor.
Starting point is 01:12:57 This is dishonoring your mother and father. This boy is calling his parents racist. Yo, dude, they gave you every opportunity. They loved you. Talk about spitting in their faces it's disgusting it's completely disgusting my parents were raised they adopted him but they are racist total scumbag move total loser behavior um this is just this is something that's done to you're you're it's it's it's clout chasing which is all he's really done since he lost any position
Starting point is 01:13:24 in the nfl it's just clout chasing he's just all he's really done since he lost any position in the NFL is just clout chasing. He's just punching up. And it's interesting because I guess his grift with, you know, going after, you know, demonizing police officers and going after the national anthem has has gone on. And I just hope people look at this for what it is. Right. You know, this guy has lost targets. So he's targeting the people that are actually closest to him in his life. And he they probably were telling him, like, you know, it looks nice, but a lot of people are going to think to him in his life. And they probably were telling him like,
Starting point is 01:13:46 you know, hon, it looks nice, but a lot of people are going to think that's unprofessional. And they weren't wrong probably either at the time. Tim, you mentioned evil earlier. Yeah. I think this guy's evil, but I think he's the more banality of evil. I mean, I just think it's an evil act.
Starting point is 01:13:59 I think it's an evil act to speak out against your parents in public. By the way, not if, you know, unless your parents have done something wrong. Right, exactly. Of course, yeah, obviously. But in a situation like this that I'm talking about where you have people who adopted you, raised you, got you to the point
Starting point is 01:14:18 where you're obviously very successful, and then to turn around and slam them, and then use this word, this epithet racist, which in our society today to label someone racist is seen as it's worse than rape. It's worse than murderer. It's this is the ultimate evil. It was, but I kind of think like they've beaten a dead horse,
Starting point is 01:14:38 you know, so now we're kind of just like, yeah, yeah, whatever. You know what I mean? Of course Colin Kaepernick said something really stupid. That was my thought when I saw this. I was like, yeah, of. You know what I mean? Of course, Colin Kaepernick said something really stupid. That was my thought when I saw this. I was like, yeah, of course he did. The issue more so is that he is spitting on his parents. That's kind of a crazy thing like that.
Starting point is 01:14:52 In public. People do that a lot. Adoptive parents, too. I mean, not for nothing. They chose you. They picked you. And you're going to crap on them. Come on.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Yeah. I mean, it's also, though, that's what Harry did. That's like the thing that today, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, they had like renounced their royalty. But they're like, our children get to be prince and princesses. Is that what they said? Yeah. Well, they demanded it.
Starting point is 01:15:17 They demanded it, that the children get the titles. They're the worst people ever. They are. They might just be evil. You know, Harry might not actually be a Windsor, right? All I know is I want a browser extension. I want a browser extension that when I turn it on, it erases their names from any website I go on. Just so you never have to see their stupid, simpy faces.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Well, he's the simp, right? So I do think that Harry and Meghan is very indicative for not just the young men out there, but also young women, that this could be you. This could be you if you take someone like that, someone with every red flag under the sun like Meghan Markle, and put her on a pedestal and put her in charge of your entire life and all of your affairs. Give her that much of your mental space that she will consume you. She will actually suck your soul, which we've seen. This guy, he was a war hero. He used to go and party. He was friends with his brother.
Starting point is 01:16:18 He had his friends with his brother. He had a soul of his guns. He did. Wow. That's insane. In England. Wow. Yeah. Because you can still have long guns in england but i mean it's right and then to take someone and have them
Starting point is 01:16:32 totally control your life i mean that divorce is going to be awful it's going to be it's going to be really bad it's going to be it's going to be a lot of no no the tabloids are going to be so excited well the tabloids are going to yeah huge payday. And it's just, I just think it's, I think it's sad. But at the same time, how many of you have a friend in your life that's been a Harry? How many of you have been a Harry in your life at some point and said, you know what? I know they're this way, but I can fix them. Well, I've known. I can fix them.
Starting point is 01:16:57 I've known some Megans. And we've all known some Megans. We may have. I heard that she was talking about suing South Park after they made fun of her on that episode. Yeah, then they came out. Everyone was like, you are ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:17:08 And then they were like, no, no, we're not really going to sue them. No, we're not. She cried apparently. Yeah. I mean, so stupid. She's just the worst.
Starting point is 01:17:17 And I think it's true. Like if you're dating someone and they say something like your family sucks, like dump that person. Get rid of that person. Because, you know, first your family, then your friends, then yourself.
Starting point is 01:17:28 They're going to deprive you of everything you love. When you first meet someone, check their relationship with their family. Right, that's a good point. She cut herself off of her own family. So she's got half siblings. She's got a father who, by all accounts and purposes, actually does love her or at least had a good,
Starting point is 01:17:43 you know, tried to give her as much as she could uh she throws him under the bus left and right then these half siblings that she's completely cut them off i would add barack obama to that list by the way um who's got what how many half siblings that you know they keep like popping up every time we turn around by the way shout out to malik obama the right obama we elected the right obama we elected the wrong obama the real we like we elected the wrong Obama the real Kenyan one right the yeah and then with with that if you've got someone who's trying to get you to isolate yourself from your family or your friends just run just I was watching some TV show I can't remember what it was was it fringe maybe I don't know she was on it and I was just some TV show. I can't remember what it was. Was it Fringe maybe? I don't know. She was on it. And I was just like, well, this ruined the show for me. Maybe if I watched it before she did all this stupid shenanigans.
Starting point is 01:18:30 But I'm just sick of the stories. I'm sick of her tears. Oh, it's just so awful. It's really just a knuckle already. Is she like, what is she like, the most hated celebrity probably? Is she? Who else could there be? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Who else is a hated celebrity kim kardashian kim kardashian no but kim kardashian i'm saying more favorability i think i think probably make it more yeah yeah she probably has way more unfavorability in terms of the fame she generates it's just so awful by the way um shout out to the alx who just texted me the live tweets of the ubl raid what is it it's it's it's so high but there right here may 1st 2011 a huge window shaking bang here in abadabad i hope it's not the start of something then uh where is that that's it for and i just i just read to her just quotes we did it then a few hours later in the morning, Bin Laden is dead.
Starting point is 01:19:27 I didn't kill him. Please let me sleep now. Yikes. How many followers does he have now? 44,000 followers. And oh, he's like a CEO. He's in software. Good for him.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Yeah. But yeah, live tweeted the Bin Laden raid. So I guess just going back to the Colin Kaepernick thing, targeting, the reason why I asked about the, what is it? Taylor Silverman replied to my Alex Stein story
Starting point is 01:19:52 and said, AOC needs a nice Jewish boy like Alex. Oh, yeah? I saw a video of AOC going after me today. It was so funny. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right.
Starting point is 01:20:00 I was so upset. So here was the point I wanted to bring up with the Kaepernick thing is that it is the antithesis of the moral tradition of this country, which a component is honor thy father and thy mother. They want to sever you from your roots. They want you to attack your parents.
Starting point is 01:20:14 And one of the things we see a lot of is kids going off to college, coming back, and then calling their parents racist. They're trying to remove you from your family and destroy the family. So one of the reasons why I don't think that the end goal is... I can't think of any other movements that have ever done that in the past. No, right. But that's why I'm saying... That never happened in Cambodia or China. That's why when they say, our goal is this, and they point to like postmodernism, I'm
Starting point is 01:20:35 like, no, no, no. Their goal is going to be gulags. Their goal is going to be the complete destruction of society so that they can build something different. And we don't know what that will look like. And it won't be fun. That happened on The Simpsons too. The separate. Do you remember the one where
Starting point is 01:20:48 Lisa's way older and she talks about how her dad never did anything for her and it's like he literally took you to the music store when you could barely speak. Oh yeah. And this was they kind of like retconned The Simpsons. Oh yeah. I know what you're talking about. Was it a new episode or something? So it was a new episode
Starting point is 01:21:03 where she was talking about oh my father never father never, never did anything for me. He hated me. He was always against my my musical, my musical leanings, et cetera. And it's just not true because you can go back to those old Simpsons episodes. And the the crux of it was always that, you know, of course Homer is a little bit mentally deficient and obviously a drunk, but he loves his family and he always is trying to do the right thing and it's his buffoonery that becomes the joke,
Starting point is 01:21:37 whereas they've completely lost that because our culture is so hollow today. So when was this episode from? Like last year. Yeah, it was last year. Oh, wow. And of course, age is an age. Do you see the one where they made Abe Simpson gay?
Starting point is 01:21:51 No. The grandpa? Yeah, they did an episode where... Wait, what? Yeah, yeah, where Abe Simpson had a friend who turned out to be gay and then when he found out his friend was gay, ran away and then never talked to him
Starting point is 01:22:02 and then felt really bad about it and then went and kissed him and they made out or something. Oh, weird. They like kiss on the lips. And he was like, well, that wasn't so bad or something like that. There was the one where Homer had a friend who was gay. And the friend was like, Homer, I have to tell you something.
Starting point is 01:22:17 I'm ho. Yeah. Mo. Yeah. Sexual. What? Wait, that's what the best line is like, Homer, I don't know how to put this to you right right i prefer the company of men who doesn't who doesn't that was an old episode though wasn't it yeah right all right they did they did an episode where bart he had the toy
Starting point is 01:22:36 story there's an episode where bart gets mad because they're doing a reboot of itchy and scratchy with a female itchy and scratchy yeah so this is the problem though it's because it's because the left that has gotten in in hollywood all they focus on is deconstruction so it's deconstruction of self it's deconstruction of story it's deconstruction of character they do not how to know how to tell stories well they don't understand the hero's journey they don't understand any basic elements of storytelling. And that's how you get like, what was it? Superman had a gay son.
Starting point is 01:23:09 Yeah, that's why they deconstruct and redo old stories because they don't know how to create anything new. It's over and over and over. Look at Star Wars. Look at Marvel. It's all skin suits. Yeah, it really is. They just go in.
Starting point is 01:23:19 And the latest one, though, by the way, and I mentioned it before, but it's Yellowstoning. So Yellowstoning is when they'll take an actor like in Yellowstone, it's Kevin Costner in 1923. It's Harrison Ford in Tulsa King. It's it's Sylvester Stallone. And they'll put them in a film or a TV show, I guess, Taylor Sheridan. And then they'll introduce like woke elements in the background. So they use, you know know the actor and the aesthetics to
Starting point is 01:23:47 pull you in and then all of a sudden monica comes on screen and she's telling you about the the horrific abuses and genocide of the native americans and then here comes a scene in tulsa king where they talk about and it's not even set in the past right tulsa king and they'll there's like a redlining situation that goes on where a black guy can't buy a car, who's got cash to pay for the car, by the way, and suddenly just like totally unlikely, super anachronistic kind of scene
Starting point is 01:24:15 is just shoved in there. And Sylvester Stallone's like, hey, yo, it beats him up. I mean, the only way that it would work if he can't buy the car is because there's something wrong with his social credit score. Which, by the way, the guy actually was a criminal. I just want to
Starting point is 01:24:27 read this. I pulled this up. I googled it while you were talking. The Simpsons arrive in Texas to find that Grandpa didn't actually ruin Phillip's life. Blah, blah, blah. He and Grandpa reconnect, which causes Abe's feelings to resurface. He then begins contemplating the possibility of being gay, too. Phillip and Grandma continue talking while memories of the past
Starting point is 01:24:43 dredge up emotions. They both shared for each other. other at that point grandpa is ready to kiss the only man he ever considered kissing then they kiss that's the simpsons that's the simpsons from 2019 that doesn't sound great again it's it's deconstruct it's just deconstruction it's deconstruction of characters so we have to we have to deconstruct identity we have to deconstruct sexuality we have to deconstruct the backstories because they can't actually come up with a new story. Yeah, they don't know how to write anything new. Remember when they said Beethoven was black? I remember this.
Starting point is 01:25:11 It was like this whole theory. It was this whole theory. Beethoven, I did not hear this. You didn't hear that one? Let me see if I can pull that one up too. I'm sort of lucky. It's like when they say Shakespeare was a woman. It's like, no, Shakespeare was this guy.
Starting point is 01:25:22 No, definitely not. He was born in stratford on avon the guardian beethoven was black why the radical idea still has power today i hate that there you go they did with great gatsby too they said f scott fitzgerald was black no no no they what's the 1984 quote every you know article rewritten or whatever every article be written there was a double plus on good there was a a professor who was teaching great gatsby and he said my my students don't understand this book they don't get it which by the way it's it which is another book that is very similar to the harry and megan
Starting point is 01:25:54 situation it's called like don't don't be simping right so gatsby was this is like your favorite it's my favorite thing it's my favorite well the other one well no the other one is uh as uh in cell of the opera that uh that's a good i know right um no so that one's not as developed but it's it's it's clearly there so he's um and what is it uh mabel the the girl mabel no in gatsby oh i forget her name i forget her name right but so he's, so rather than go and find some other girl, he's got to completely change his entire identity. He's got to buy a mansion directly across the bay from hers. He's got to, and then eventually he holds these parties
Starting point is 01:26:39 to try to get her in. But no, the professor says that's not good enough because I won't teach it as the dangers of simping. No, no no no it's we're gonna make gatsby black and teach it this way which totally changes the novel has nothing to do with what the story was um and sets it up in a complete different way but this is a narrative that my kids are going to be much more into why is that yeah right why is that that's because you are perpetuating you're telling them to be you're telling them to be where in reality and then of course at the end gatsby takes the uh the manslaughter charge and says that he was driving the car that she drove and then hit and
Starting point is 01:27:17 then killed the guy which leads to which leads to him dying because the boyfriend comes in so oh gatsby was driving killed him him. Are there any, like, prominent leftist histories that we can retcon? Prominent leftist histories? You mean like, like Che Guevara was a devoted
Starting point is 01:27:31 anti-LGBTQ activist and family man who went to church every Sunday? How about the Angela Davis actually is descended from the Mayflower? Yeah, but,
Starting point is 01:27:40 but, but wasn't that, yeah, but that story is literally about a person whose ancestors were raped. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. That's why i didn't go but you can retcon that yeah everyone everyone's like haha you're the defendant of slave owners and it's like you do realize it means that they were raping them right like that's not a good thing that bolsters her point
Starting point is 01:27:57 that it strengthens her point that's actually horrifying yeah but like you know say that he was like a suit wearing you know trad con or just that he was bougie worst of all
Starting point is 01:28:10 guys you're missing the worst of all you're the day trader what if Che Guevara was secretly white oh that's right he was wasn't he white
Starting point is 01:28:18 secretly no just completely Che was actually short for what Charles Charles that's right Charles
Starting point is 01:28:24 and Guevara that was a nickname Guevara's nickname because he ate a lot of guava yeah what was Che was actually short for Charles. Charles. That's right. Charles. And Guevara. That was a nickname. Guevara's nickname. Because he ate a lot of guava. Yeah. What was his name? Gonzalez.
Starting point is 01:28:32 He was a white European Spanish guy. Just a white guy. Charles. Charlie Gusto. Charlie Gusto. No, I had a professor in grad school who's Cuban. He's a Cuban playwright, right? He's like, and he was casting Olympia Dukakis,
Starting point is 01:28:47 Eduardo Machado. He was casting Olympia Dukakis in a whatever thing that he was doing. And the producers were like, no, you can't put Olympia Dukakis in because she's supposed to play a Cuban mom.
Starting point is 01:28:57 And so, and Olympia Dukakis is white. And Eduardo was like, I'm white. I'm Cuban. I'm white. My family is white. We're Cuban.
Starting point is 01:29:05 Like, what do you mean? Olympic caucus looks great for this part. Have you seen the tweet where they said that woman was like, white people shouldn't be speaking Spanish, and then someone responded, I'd like to introduce you to the entire country of Spain. It's Schrodinger's white person.
Starting point is 01:29:21 It's white. So is the English language? I always say that. You're saying all this in English. I don't like saying Schrodinger's white person. It's white. So is the English language then? I always say that. Like, you're saying all this in English. I don't like saying Schrodinger's. I like we're talking about mixed race Asians. And I say Heisenberg's uncertainty marginalized people. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Because with Schrodinger, it's like the cat is in its position of both at the same time. With Heisenberg uncertainty principle, it's we don't know the point at which the waveform collapses so if you're mixed race asian we don't know at what point you're either white or an oppressed minority so you know did i see you use the word quapa yes earlier today yeah quapa what is quapa a quarter asian a quarter is that you're a quarter yeah i'm a quapa you're a quapa i tweeted is is are you are you allowed to be proud of being a cuapa? That's what they say. That's what they call it. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:30:10 And I think Keanu Reeves is an octaupa, or is that what they call it? Because hoppa is the word. I thought he was half. Oh, hoppa is half. Hoppa is half, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if he's half. I think Keanu Reeves, is he half?
Starting point is 01:30:20 I think he's a mix. I don't keep track of this stuff. Yeah, I know, right? Yeah, like I just, yeah. But my point was like, am I allowed to say Quap a pride? Like what's the degree of white to where you're not allowed to be proud of what race you are?
Starting point is 01:30:31 You know what I mean? Right, exactly. Well, you're not allowed to be proud of being Italian anymore because they tore down Christopher Columbus. Not in Philadelphia. He sucks and you're not allowed to be Italian. No, in Philadelphia,
Starting point is 01:30:42 we had a little bit of a different response when they tried to take down the Christopher Columbus statue. The boys came down and surrounded that statue and said, nope. My brother was there. It got a little dicey, shall we say. It's like, you're not taking
Starting point is 01:30:59 Chris, so why don't you get out of here? You're not taking Chris. Christopher ain't going nowhere. All right, let's go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, and for my birthday, head over to TimCast.com and click that Join Us button and become a member because we're going to have a members-only,
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Starting point is 01:31:35 Oh, interesting. It says, happy birthday, Tim. Hope you had a great day and spent time with friends and family. I grabbed it. It was fantastic. Oh, that's lovely. Yeah, Cassandra got me a pie cakin'. I think it's called.
Starting point is 01:31:49 It's a pie on the bottom, cheesecake in the middle, and then cake on top. That's amazing. That's really bizarre. Yeah. I had crab dip quesadillas the other day. Oh, my goodness. That sounds so good. It was amazing.
Starting point is 01:32:02 It was literally amazing. I want that. Happy birthday, Tim. All right. sounds so good it was amazing it was it was literally amazing i want that happy birthday tim all right squirrel guy says i don't have the money for a membership on youtube and the site when will the app be available so uh the app is like ready to go the issue is apple has like a security protocol i guess so like the app's been done and i don't i don't know what's going on i'll put it this way unless i directly do everything myself it stagnates for whatever reason it's hard to delegate tasks to other people because there's
Starting point is 01:32:31 only so much people it's a combination of factors but one if i have to sign off on something and someone else can't then everything slows down but uh yeah i don't know what's going to happen and uh we'll we'll see how long the app lasts on the app store because the first one we're rolling out is the iPhone app. And I got a feeling they're going to be like, no. Really? Why? Like, on what basis?
Starting point is 01:32:52 I mean, Bandcamp didn't give us any reason. It's a culture war. Yeah. You know, you best start believing in culture war stories. You're in one. Libby, you still think these people need a reason. Yeah, they're going to be like, we don't like your face. So get your app and get out of here. And we're going to be like, hey, yo, what am I doing, huh?
Starting point is 01:33:06 Going to be like, you see that beanie? Find that beanie offensive. No, but they let truth socialize. Why do they let truth on and they wouldn't let— Yeah, that's true. That's true. And all it really is is kind of like a browser. Threat of lawsuits.
Starting point is 01:33:18 Well, you know, we'll see. We'll see. All right. What do we got? Hillary Clinton says, happy anniversary of the day of your birth i'm already a member but here's some extra casino money love you bro don't worry we have put in the order for the poker table for poker with the boys new show we're doing you got to come down jack's gonna be fun let's do it and uh we're getting the rfid table so when the cards are dealt
Starting point is 01:33:39 you put them down in front of you and the computer live stream will already know what cards you have. Oh, that's amazing. And display them on the screen. Right. And then you can look down. The computer knows before you do. So the idea for the show is poker is mostly the backdrop. The idea is to just Friday nights after the show, we hang out, play poker, maybe, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:33:59 Maybe we'll do cigars. Depends on what our insurance allows for smoking. This sounds really fun. Yeah. And the joke was that it's poker with the boys. So if ladies show up, we're going to make them wear fake mustaches. Yes.
Starting point is 01:34:08 Oh, I love that. And then, you know, talk like this. I'm just one of the boys. You know? And we'll be like, that's right, no ladies in here. And then we all high five.
Starting point is 01:34:16 You can get glisten to send chest binders to all the ladies. No, I'm kidding. But the general idea of the show is just a hangout podcast while we're playing poker because that makes it fun and silly like we're playing a game
Starting point is 01:34:27 of some sort you have to draw the mustache on with a marker no no no that's horrifying that's horrible just a finger mustache you have to do this
Starting point is 01:34:36 if you're a female you have to have the finger mustache I love it it'll be like that Seinfeld when they went around with mustaches remember they were like
Starting point is 01:34:43 what are we doing and so we're we're very like that that may be something we launch around with mustaches. Remember? They were like, what are we doing? And so we're very, like, that may be something we launch very soon. The only thing we need now is the poker table. And so we've got a company that's putting it together. There's going to be a shuffler. It's like a mushroom shape almost where everyone sits sort of like in a semicircle. Is it going to be like a casino table? It's a special, it's a table designed for shows.
Starting point is 01:35:03 So typical poker tables are you know oval or round yeah yeah this one's like more like a mushroom top so that the people sit around half of it so there's blocking for the cameras so the cameras can all point and then everyone can still see each other it's like a half moon basically but it'll be fun and then we're talking with clint from liberty lockdown to host it once a week, Friday nights after IRL. We come downstairs in the studio and we sit down and we just hang out and have drinks. Oh, because it's all set up and ready to go. That's great.
Starting point is 01:35:30 And then we direct all the viewers to go watch the after show where we hang out and smack talk. And since you don't have like the afters on Fridays anyway, it's perfect timing. And then it's a chill Friday night where we'll have beers, drinks, soda, chips, nachos, crab dip, and people will be, you know, playing around and lying to each other and having fun. That sounds fun. I'm super excited for that. It sounds like it's not even work.
Starting point is 01:35:50 It sounds like I want to come hang out. Oh, and the winner gets the Super Chats. So what we're going to do is everyone gets a set number of chips, tournament style, and at the end of the night, the winner will get whatever the Super Chat number is. So we'll be like, you won, and it's like, oh, it's like $1,000.
Starting point is 01:36:04 Congratulations. And there's some locals out here it's like $1,000. Congratulations. And there's some locals out here who play who are really funny that I'm really hoping we could get to come on. Oh, that'll be really fun. There's some really funny guys. I love this idea. Yeah, I'm super excited for it.
Starting point is 01:36:16 All right. Jazza Not says, every day you do your show is like a birthday for all of us. We're grateful for what you and the team do. We look forward to each day. So happy birthday, Tim. Q Pro Wrestling, you deserve it. Chant. Wait, imagine how old you would be
Starting point is 01:36:27 if your birthday was every day, though. I know. You'd be really old. Man, I'd be thousands of years old. Crazy. Did you guys ever mark when you had, like, your 10,000th 10,000th hour? Like, I've been alive for 10,000 hours. A lot? I remember doing that
Starting point is 01:36:44 for days. I remember I once calculated, like, the average of how many days I would have left to live. That's pretty awesome. Well, I'm halfway there. Yeah. So, you know, I'm 37 now. That's kind of crazy. Wait, if you're halfway there, then I'm less than halfway there. That's right.
Starting point is 01:36:57 Well, the life expectancy for the average male is what, 72? What about the average cuapa? Yes. Is it 72? What about the average cuapa? Probably higher. So actually in my family, it's way higher. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:07 Yeah. I do think there's an Asian component of living longer. There's two factors to consider. East Asians on average do. Live longer and I'm wealthy. Those two things will help you out. Yeah, it's true. No joke.
Starting point is 01:37:20 You know what I mean? When you have money, it's a fact. You get dental care when you need it. You get medical treatment when you need it. And, you know, I've always been pretty lefty. Well, you're not out there digging potholes or whatever. Exactly. I'm not, you know, aside from skating, I'm exercising.
Starting point is 01:37:37 I'm eating well. It's very easy for me to be healthy relative to the average American. My great-grandma was 108. I recognize my privilege. Yeah, good. My great-grandma was 108 when she died. That's Yeah, good. My great-grandma was 108 when she died. That's amazing. 108.
Starting point is 01:37:47 They're going to live forever. Well, you know, here's hoping. You know, both didn't. I know Trump's father lived into his 90s, and I think his mother lived to be like 89. Oh, really? Yes, he's going to be around for a long time. My grandparents died in their 90s.
Starting point is 01:38:02 Wow. All of them, yeah. All right, so basically every Super Chat is saying happy birthday, and I really do appreciate it. That's very sweet. Wow. All of them. Yeah. All right. So basically every super chat is saying happy birthday. And I really do appreciate it. That's very sweet. You did kind of ask for that. All right. Noah Sanders says, Jack, please school Tim on Vivek.
Starting point is 01:38:12 He keeps bringing him up, but I know you've been following him and his team closely. Promo code Tanya on my pillow. Well, wait, you're going to throw out a promo code Tanya, which is a conspiracy theory, by the way. And then after you ask me to do something, do not try to use promo code tanya no one should ever use promo code why would you do that why would you why would it's your birthday why would you do that tim you don't look look tim i was gonna be all nice now and i was gonna give you i was gonna have this whole thing planned out where i was gonna give tim pool aillow 2 for his birthday.
Starting point is 01:38:46 And now that I hear that you want to use, I was going to make it a whole thing. It was going to be like, you know, to my buddy Tim, the little sticker right there,
Starting point is 01:38:56 you know, use it on the thing. And I don't know. No, I don't know. Place pillow and dryer for 15 minutes before first use. This is a MyPillow 2.
Starting point is 01:39:03 It's very advanced technology. Do not let the Chinese get a hold of this, Tim. Do you remember the Our Pillow that we had here? Our Pillow? I don't because I only remember My Pillow. It was a burlap sack full of styrofoam packing peanuts. How about that? David Hogg pillow.
Starting point is 01:39:17 We planned this whole thing out. We never actually were able to pull it off, but the idea was, and we should, I guess, the idea was you open up the box and it's packed it's a burlap sack buried in packing peanuts with a card on top with ikea like instructions on how to set up your hour pillow and it's like the communist version of the pillow it's like very low quality garbage styrofoam packing peanuts in a burlap sack very uncomfortable and scratchy and then there's like a little man like pouring the peanuts into the bag on the thing and like a picture of him pouring the peanuts in his mouth and then going with like a circle with a line through and all that stuff we i was i was like the idea i had was
Starting point is 01:39:53 to do that i even called fox news and said can we run a commercial and we i talked with their ad department they said absolutely i explained the goal of the commercial would be a a soviet russian sounding guy explaining why our pillow is better and that you have to use it and sacrifice and accept how awful the pillow is for the good of our comrades in soviet russia pillow sleeps on you well it's just like you know every so here's a funny thing i've got a soviet handgun and it sucks and nobody ever wants to use it at the range because it hurts and that's like very soviet it doesn't matter if it hurts you as long as it works it's cheap and you can mass produce it so that's like the idea of the hour pillow that soviet cosmonauts were issued sidearms wow yeah you never know it's gonna find in space no no the idea was
Starting point is 01:40:39 because when they landed um they were always planned the plan was always that they would land in siberia with their capsule and then so they just in case they were attacked by bears that they would give the they would give the cosmonauts and they even developed a a special gun just for this purpose so that they would if they landed in in siberia and you need a handgun to kill a bear that you would have that i'm i'm genuinely excited for the most russian thing i've ever heard of are you gonna put it in the dryer first yeah literally as soon as we wrap up i'm gonna put throw in the dryer you gotta do it i want i want to review it's gonna be nice and well i had i had the my pillow one like a year or two ago a couple years ago yeah i think we lost in the move to be honest uh i don't know what happened so you needed a my pillow to begin yes
Starting point is 01:41:19 there we go i actually thought it was fantastic but what i like doing is taking a regular pillow with a my pillow on top that's that that was my jam we go. I actually thought it was fantastic. But what I like doing is taking a regular pillow with a MyPillow on top. That was my jam. That's not bad. I thought it was fantastic. See, I'm just all MyPillows. Just a tiny night. It's 50 of them.
Starting point is 01:41:32 It's all MyPillows. Didn't we talk about filling up a room of MyPillows and then, you know, like jumping in it? Yes. We need to do that. Maybe, you know, oh, yeah, we talked about that because the new studio we're building has got like a recreation space. Right. And we were like, instead of doing an airbag, we should do a pile of MyPillows.
Starting point is 01:41:50 Yes. That would be awesome. What's an airbag? So like we have airbags outside. So when you can land on them. Oh, for skating? Yeah. So you can launch up in the air and you land on an airbag.
Starting point is 01:42:02 If you fail and fall, you land on an airbag if you fail and fall you bounce in an airbag if you land you can ride off the airbag because it's it's pressurized so you can still move on it so we wanted to do um a foam pit foam pits are designed so you can try and do dangerous things and land in a phone but you don't get hurt so if you want to learn how to do a backflip or a front flip instead of foam though we should just get a bunch of my pillows yes and then have a my pillowillow pit. Exactly. That sounds really funny. Yeah. And then you can jump off the 20-foot tall studio
Starting point is 01:42:29 building into the pit of MyPillows if you're brave. And you can do, like, the razor's edge to your brother. Bam! That'd be scary. Drop him in there. I've done, I think, like a 15-foot drop into a foam pit once. Wow. It's scary. Yeah, it sounds scary. It's very scary. But you just aim true. I've done, done like a true you know i've
Starting point is 01:42:45 fallen into a foam pit and those things are hard to get out of just from like a half a foot i got stuck in one charlie had to help me out all right let's read some more we got bunga hooch says in the realm of creating counterculture it's important that we create media for younger audiences as well as older ones i plan to launch a web comic by the end of this year to do just that happy birthday by the way i appreciate it all right adam atomic storm says hope you read hot dogs up for poso he'll know at what point do we protest in front of where they are holding the j6 political prisoners who said massive injustice who said that about the hot dogs no hot dogs absolutely not i am tracking every single one of you with these and i just i just remembered too that other guy asked about vivek and wanted
Starting point is 01:43:29 you to talk about him he did yeah i did the political thing where i talked where i changed the subject it was very clever it was i know uh so no no no so i mean i just i i think when i hear like america first 2.0 it just it strikes me as like well this just seems a lot very similar to like the paul ryan mitt romney stuff just rebaked over again of you know magic dirt and we're gonna increase immigration or be strong on national security it just kind of sounds like going back to the old style of things i'm gonna i'm just looking at these slippers real quick what is this all season men slip on slippers. And it's like, I remember when Andrew Yang was on the left
Starting point is 01:44:09 and everybody said, oh, it's going to be, you know, he's going to be the new thing and it's going to be great. And it was just like flash in the pan and then totally disappeared. I don't think there's a lot of, I honestly, as much as ever, there's a lot of talk that people like to talk about third parties or new parties. I just don't see a realistic place for them. I mean, even with MAGA as kind of the, I guess, the heart of the Republican Party now. It's the closest thing to a third party that we have in America.
Starting point is 01:44:42 Yeah. It just exists within the Republican Party. Yeah know because of their dismay really yeah obviously wonderful but even that like the maga the maga party or the maga wing of the republican party is attractive to some libertarians you know some of the the the less whoa the non-establishment libertarians. I mean, I think there's a lot of issues of overlap there. I think foreign policy, obviously, you know, very simpatico in terms of like, you actually saw Matt Gaetz, right, who's like the most, probably the most MAGA Republican member of
Starting point is 01:45:20 Congress right now, come out, yet was it yesterday, and put up an amendment to pull our troops out of Syria, right? An argument that the old party never would have made. One which, to their credit, the squad all agreed with. And so... Now, I'm not saying that there's libertarians out there that are furiously typing right now, you anarchist libertarians, take it easy, all right? I'm not saying that I expect anarchists to be Republicans or anything, so...
Starting point is 01:45:43 No, no, no. But I think there are a lot of issues. There's that. There's issues like Bitcoin. They're dealing with the Fed, dealing with just understanding inflation and the pressures of that. I think there are obviously issues
Starting point is 01:45:59 where we would disagree, right? And that's probably more than social issues. But gun issues, et cetera, I think there's a lot of issues would disagree. Right. And so, and that's probably more than social issues, but it, I don't know, gun issues, et cetera. Like, I think there's a lot of issues of overlap. Yeah. I was just going to say,
Starting point is 01:46:10 I was on the website. I put in promo code Tanya and it made the slippers basically free. No, no, that's, that's, that's a, that's a glitch,
Starting point is 01:46:17 a common glitch that occurs, but you know, 25 bucks. No, when you, when you go to check out, it actually just like, like a hand reaches through the screen and slaps you around a little bit so you definitely don't want that you definitely
Starting point is 01:46:27 don't want to use promo code all right cory alexander you're actually sitting there doing promo code tanya this yeah yeah i was trying out to see if it was real or not i figured it was it worked she's watching too cory alexander says please read this for phil i think it's time that you get compared to the likes of i lane stale lane chris staley they said chris weidman for your unique voice lyric subjects and song structure time to join legend status uh well i appreciate that uh lane staley is is definitely a legend um he was the original singer of alice in chains for people that aren't aware um so i appreciate it thank you very much for the vote of
Starting point is 01:47:05 confidence and thanks for listening. You know, it's funny. When I was growing up in Chicago, the only thing they ever played on the radio was Stone Temple Pilots. Non-stop. Huge. Over and over. It was all they did. And now that I'm older, I would get so annoyed when they would play the
Starting point is 01:47:21 same songs over and over again. I'm like, play something else. But for 15 years, nothing but Stone Temple Pilots. Every fifth song. Really? On the radio? That's right. Q101 in Chicago.
Starting point is 01:47:31 And then now I'm older. I'm like, I turn the radio on in my car and I'm like, how do I get the Stone Temple Pilots on here? Right. Let's play that. R.I.P. Scott Weiland, man. I saw him like five or six times with the Pilots and his Velvet Revolver and some of
Starting point is 01:47:44 his solo stuff, like having galoshes. And I just, I remember like, I definitely was not happy when, when he died and same with, with Cornell and Staley. But shout out to Scott Stapp because,
Starting point is 01:47:58 because yo, I'm telling you go listen to a couple of Creed songs right now. If you can, after you listen to the third hour, songs right now, if you can, after you listen to the third hour, obviously. And it's the same situation. Remember, Creed was everywhere. Yeah, arms wide open. In the mid-2000s, everywhere.
Starting point is 01:48:13 And everyone's like, ah, come on, come on. Yo, go listen to it again. Adrienne Curry says Q101 sucks. She is completely correct. Yeah. And it's like Creed is due for a is is is due for a comeback totally due for a comeback creed all right cam girl as soon as i got a table at your austin show however the others who were coming with me had to cancel i'm still planning to go but find myself with three
Starting point is 01:48:34 extra tickets know anyone who might want them maybe do a giveaway let me know i would not coordinate that honestly um so i have no idea maybe you could shout out something on the chat so people could get get in touch with you and then you could uh share the tickets or something that's very cool to like throw it out there to everybody marvel win says happy birthday tim you and my grandma share a birthday she's 101 today wow march 9th is the best birthday it is the peak of pis Pisces. Just so you guys know. Pisces is... I was told that you start your first life as an Aries,
Starting point is 01:49:12 and then every time you get reincarnated, you move down the astrological chart or whatever. Zodiac. The Zodiac, there you go. And then Pisces is your last life. So that's it, I'm out. Oh, you're done. Yeah, after 72 years old i'm just gonna and then i'm off so this is your punishment for all your other lives i have no idea maybe yeah this is your punishment go wherever the
Starting point is 01:49:36 pagans go when they die the reward what what do pagans think happen when you die is that it i think you just described it yeah okay i okay. I think that is right. I don't know what happens after Pisces. Reincarnation. You come back, it's a tree. Yeah. Yes. I read this crazy Japanese short story about this woman who, for her punishment for doing some crime, she was planted in the park and she turned into a tree. It's like a story? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:58 A legend? Yeah, it's like a... For a good while, I was obsessed with Japanese literature and this was one of the stories I read. Yeah. But I don't speak Japanese literature, and this was one of the stories I read. Yeah. But I don't speak Japanese, so eventually I was like, I know I'm missing so much. This is ridiculous. I did the same thing with Norwegian literature.
Starting point is 01:50:14 And I was like, what is up with these languages? I'm never going to know them. You are Norwegian, though, right? Yeah, I'm a quarter. What is it? Is there a word for a quarter Norwegian? A quarter Norwegian. Quarter Norwegian. Quarter Norwegian. Kors.region. Quar-region.
Starting point is 01:50:25 Quarse. Quarse, like Norse. All right. Juan Rhodes says, mental illness versus evil. Look up Richard Chase, the vampire of Sacramento. Ooh, that's crazy. Will it give me an opportunity to use the word exsanguinate? Because I like that word.
Starting point is 01:50:39 Sounds like it. It's a great word. Yeah, it's a great. It's a word you get to use in rare circumstances. Just like defenestrate. Right. Yeah. That's a great one, it's a great so it's a word you get to use in rare circumstances just like defenestrate right yeah that's a great one right decapitate well decapitate people use all the time crashes yeah but defenestrate yeah that's a good one yeah i've always said the defenestrate sounds like something different than what it's actually describing right yeah yeah when you explain i defenestrated him oh my gosh oh no it means
Starting point is 01:51:04 i threw it out of the window like you removed something from his lower portion. Yeah, it sounds like you're removing something. Because it sounds like decapitate or exsanguinate. But why is there a word? For those that don't know, it means to throw out a window. But why is there a word for that? Because this is the English language. We get to have a whole bunch of crazy words.
Starting point is 01:51:17 We get to have a bunch of different words for the same thing. Yeah, shout out to all the ESL folks out there. I love it. My wife, one of them. Because it is just, the English language doesL folks out there. I love it. You know, my wife, one of them, because it is just, you know, the English language does not have any rhyme or reason to it. Can we get a word for like flushing down the toilet? I guess you say flush.
Starting point is 01:51:34 Yeah. You mean like flush? But like, you never say flush it. You would say flush it down the toilet. So yeah, so we need a word like. Deflushinator. What, like Tylenol? Tubinate.
Starting point is 01:51:45 Detubinate. I'm sure the Germans have a word for it.flushinator. What, like Tylenol? Tubinate. Detubinate. I'm sure the Germans have a word for it. They always have like one very specific word. Make up word. Make up our own words. Tyrion de-pluminated his father. How do words get invented anyway, you know? I mean, words get invented all the time.
Starting point is 01:51:57 It's kind of weird. They kind of just happen. People know what they mean. Until they tell you that they have to mean something else. Well, that's slang, right? So that's slang right so that's slang so like you know go read 4chan
Starting point is 01:52:06 you'll find lots of words on there that nobody knows about well humongous was a slang word and then they eventually get humongous
Starting point is 01:52:13 right and they eventually get normalized ginormous also slang you know they become normalized and then they become teddy bear
Starting point is 01:52:20 uh cromulent and embiggen were invented by the simpsons as jokes and other words yeah embiggen is definitely out there embiggen were invented by the Simpsons as jokes and other words. Yeah. Embiggen is definitely out there.
Starting point is 01:52:27 Embiggen. Noble spirit embiggens. Yeah. What is it? Yeah. What is it? A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. Embiggens the smallest man.
Starting point is 01:52:35 Embiggens. It's a perfectly cromulent word. Yeah. Cromulent. All right. Let's see. The Meep Kid says, conservatives have always been fun, but the neocon and neolibs repressed them. That's fair.
Starting point is 01:52:46 Maybe. Got to bring the fun back. It's time to... The conservatarians are such an issue. Why don't we put on an East Coast convention that's actually fun? What if we did like a big music festival? Or a culture, a big culture fest. Yeah, like a whole big festival where it's not even about politics we'll get a floor like a big convention floor space where vendors can be
Starting point is 01:53:11 and you'll have music producers just do it outside like do a big outside you'll have the my the my pillow fluff pit that would be really funny awesome and then you climb up this post and then you jump off from like 10 feet into the pillows. Or even better, we could have instead of a dunk tank, it'll be like a pillow tank. Right. So like we could all take. No, but we could all take turns. No, no, no. You wouldn't suffocate.
Starting point is 01:53:33 You would just you'd fall. And then you you could take turns on who's the person in the tank. I got a better one for you. The MyPillow pillow arena. OK. And it'll be like a wrestling ring. It would be like a pillow fight thing. Just trade a pillow fighting. A pillow fight pillow arena. Okay. And it'll be like a wrestling ring. Oh, pillow fight. It would be like a pillow fight thing. No, it's like pillow fight.
Starting point is 01:53:47 Just trade a pillow fighting. A pillow fight would be, I would, that would be fun. There's a lot of lawsuits with that. Wasn't, there was that Twitch thing. They tried something like this. Oh, yeah. Well, that was because they put foam cubes
Starting point is 01:53:57 on the hard concrete ground and like, it wasn't a foam pit. Someone broke her back. So this woman, she jumped and landed on her ass, but she landed on the ground and broke her spine she like broke her back yeah bad yeah don't do that yeah don't let's not do that but it would be cool like you go to vidcon and they have video games they have tv shows they
Starting point is 01:54:16 have this big floor and then they have the convention rooms we just need something like that for culture that we want to do so we used to we used to hold like we used to put on events and we know some rich people don't we come on we just what we what we you're just talking about what you were right i'm wealthy enough or something like that so what we need to call tickets but what we're talking about those fire festival guys what we found though is that people want different experiences so there will be people who like just legitimately want to see a panel, right? They want to hear a panel talk or they want to see someone give a speech. But then there's other people that are like, I want to wail on somebody with a MyPillow. I just want to do that. There's
Starting point is 01:54:53 other people who want to network. There's people who want to drink. There's people who want to do different things. And so a good convention would cater to all of those things at the same time and you could you you would you would have that outlet that's going to attract people let's do it i'm in yeah let's do a big cultural convention let's figure it out conversation couch you know yep so stuff invite libs so here's the it would just it wouldn't be political just be controlled by people who don't want the weird woke garbage in media And anyone can buy a ticket. Yeah. And so, you know, what do we have?
Starting point is 01:55:27 Like the Freedom Fest, TPUSA stuff? It was great, but it's very political. It's all political. Then you have CPAC. It's all political. We need culture. I agree with that. We need Tom McDonald to perform on stage in front of 10,000 people in this convention
Starting point is 01:55:39 center. We need Bryson Gray. Get John Rich out there. John Rich, absolutely. Five times August. You could call it Nauticon. Sure. Because it's Nauticon. That's actually kind of fun. There you go. Get John Rich out there. John Rich, absolutely. Five times August. You could call it Not-a-Con. Sure.
Starting point is 01:55:47 Because it's not a con. That's actually kind of fun. There you go. Not-a-con. Boom. There, Jack just founded it. Not-a-con. Now, 10 years, he'll be a billionaire because it'll be so valuable and everyone will want it. No, it's not a con.
Starting point is 01:55:55 It's not a con. Let's do it. Let's figure it out. Because I think you have some connections with some billionaires, maybe some former president billionaires. I don't know what you're talking about. Many things. I don't know because certain people might be tied up
Starting point is 01:56:11 while they're sitting as the 47th president of the United States. That's true. That's true. But I do think I've been having conversations. As Joe Biden said today. A lot of conversations about cultural stuff. And I was talking with Cash the other day about doing some kind of cultural grant
Starting point is 01:56:24 where once a month we give 10 grand to somebody who's working on some kind of cultural cultural endeavor i love it and uh he agreed and said he knew some people probably get on board he's got the non-profit already so i'm like let's figure this one out that could be awesome maybe as a component of that we do a big cultural convention at the end of the year we bring that's a great idea like a little bit aspen and i'll'll throw this out there. We need as a parent to, by the way, there is such a need for content that is not woke for kids. And I'm not saying it has to be like veggie tales. And you're like beating people over the head with with Bible verses and scripture. I mean, just like normal, good, clean shows and content that are out there.'s that's new and fresh but even like even
Starting point is 01:57:08 miss rachel is going woke right that that all of these different you know kids content um you know like that then you got blippy who's just obviously like a freak um and some of these other people out there that are in this space well i mean I mean, go look at his original videos. I'm not even going to say it here, but just go look at what he got famous for originally or tried to get famous for. You know what I'm talking about, Serge. Just disgusting stuff.
Starting point is 01:57:34 And I don't know what's wrong with you with people that they haven't developed such of a sense where they can look at somebody like that and say, okay, an adult trying to act like a child and dressing like a child, there's something wrong with that. So I want something that I could show my kids that's just fun that they're gonna like
Starting point is 01:57:49 and they can learn like colors and stuff. Well, and it's interesting too what you say about the cultural grant because a lot of stuff really started changing when granting organizations were specifically giving money for identitarian content. Yeah, or kind of like BlackRock and Blackstone and Vanguard and
Starting point is 01:58:06 State Street started promoting investments and credits for investment in your company based on those same exact
Starting point is 01:58:14 characteristics yeah human events dot com so I don't know you guys as band camp has an
Starting point is 01:58:21 arbitration clause with users sure yeah we'll let a judge decide like we'll file and sure yeah we'll let a judge decide like we'll file and then when when it goes to a judge and they say oh there's an arbitration clause that will mean bandcamp files their response but that's what they did that's exactly
Starting point is 01:58:34 what they triggered with patreon was arbitration yeah yeah so they can so they can respond for every single 35 000 times of arbitration yeah yeah i mean for every customer that they've reached contract with we'll make sure a judge decides because a judge might say in the wake of 35 000 arbitrations arbitration doesn't make sense right and so this is a thing any dispute arising will be settled by arbitration sure sure but what happens when the court is looking at 35 000 complaints they're going to say no no guys we can't do that that's too much this arbitration is not going to work they're gonna have to do something else so i'm not saying i disagree with it i don't care where it goes i'm just saying we have to take step one which is send
Starting point is 01:59:17 the filings to the courts and say we believe this is a civil tort violation for these reasons and then the judge can say yes or no but this idea of sitting back and doing nothing and going oh darn they've done it again is just not not it's not feasible yeah donald dixon says top five guests michael malice jack however you spell that crowder and luke can fight with a potato man for fourth and fifth oh luke and luke can fight with the potato man for fourth and fifth well the potato man's not here although i do recommend watching the latest freedom tunes cartoon because it's really good and i of course am the voice of dr fauci in it all right let's uh we'll grab uh it's
Starting point is 01:59:55 just you know i a lot of the super chats are you know people saying happy birthday so i don't want to make people think like i'm not trying to find good ones, but I do appreciate it. We'll read one more. Because Reason says the MyPillowPit 2.0 could be like New Disneyland. Just saying. Alright, everybody. Are you saying MyPillowland? MyPillowland. Ooh, that's actually not bad. Oh, totally. If you haven't already,
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Starting point is 02:00:41 So check that out. You can follow the show at timcast IRL. You can follow me personally at timcast. Jack, do you want to shout anything out? Human Events Daily is the podcast. If you want to subscribe, we're on every day. I will be on immediately after this because it's pre-recorded for today. We're going through this Jan 6. I'm going to go through all the emails that the FBI doesn't want you to read. We're going to be asking questions about this family, quote unquote, that was taken hostage in Mexico. And was that really just a tourist trip, like they're telling us? And we're going
Starting point is 02:01:10 to get into some of these politico band words. Right on. I'm Libby Emmons. I am the editor-in-chief at the Postmillennial and at Human Events. I work with Jack every day, and I already listen to the pod. Maybe he's my boss now. It's crazy, dude. It is crazy. That's just so nuts. There you go. It is kind of nuts. But congrats, by the way. Thanks so much. Congrats on being named editor.
Starting point is 02:01:30 Seriously, editor-in-chief of Human Events. Human Events existed prior to National Review, prior to all of these things. So you were in a long line going back to the 1940s, honestly. Crazy. I'm stoked. Which is amazing. I've been having a lot of fun with it. We've been turning out some good content.
Starting point is 02:01:47 It's been really exciting. Awesome. I am Phil Labonte. Phil that remains on Twitter. Phil that remains official on Instagram. Yeah. Serge. I am.
Starting point is 02:01:59 Microphone off. Muted. I am at Serge.com on Twitter. Please argue with me there. It was a fun one glad to have you Jack and Libby alright everybody we will see you all over
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