Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #739 NYC Prepares For TRUMP ARREST, DeSantis Implies NO EXTRADITION w/James Klug

Episode Date: March 21, 2023

Tim, Ian, & Serge join Shane Cashman & James Klug to discuss NYC preparing to indict Donald Trump, Trump calling out NY DA Alvin Bragg in a new video, Ron DeSantis refusing to help Trump, & the complete collapse of Credit Suisse's bonds. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

you yeah so apparently uh they're gonna arrest trump, and a lot of people don't believe it. A lot of people are claiming it's not true, despite the fact that Trump himself tweeted it. But Trump may have been tweeting it based off news reports, so we really don't know for sure. Other than, in New York, they are starting to put barricades around the Manhattan District Court. So a lot of people are assuming that these barricades imply they're intending to issue an indictment for Donald Trump for the arrest, which would require extradition, likely from Florida. But this would result in massive protests. We will see. We don't know.

But the New York Times reporting outright that the New York authorities are preparing for the unprecedented arrest of an ex-president. Oh, boy. New York tries to arrest a former president who's the current front runner. Florida would have to extradite him. But Ron DeSantis is basically saying we're not getting involved. So we'll see what happens. Some people what will happen. Some people are saying that he doesn't have the authority to deny it, but he might just say F off. I'm not getting involved anyway. So he may not necessarily say screw off. I won't do it. He might just be like, hey, man, don't look at me and passively.

But if Ron DeSantis allows the indictment of Donald Trump, there is no way DeSantis will get anywhere near the presidency. And if Donald Trump gets arrested, it's probably going to dramatically help his presidency. OK, instead of just opining already, we'll get into this. Before we do, head over to TimCast.com and click that join us button to become a member and support our work. You'll see it right there on the left menu side. When you click that button, you can then sign up to become a $10 a month member and get access to the uncensored live after show Monday through Thursday. We put those up around 10, 10 PM. And there's something else. Now we have a discord

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It's the best way to help. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is james klug how you doing thanks for having me really appreciate it you guys i am a youtuber at james klug on youtube we specialize in man on street videos and also you guys huge fan of the show thanks for having me absolutely there you go well thanks for coming it should be fun we got shane cashman he's got a book apparently what's up guys yeah i have the uh the new tales from the inverted world volume two book this is my story of uh going down to washington georgia looking for the confederate gold finding some uh demon possessed people talking to uh people who talk to ghosts looking at ufos aiming aiming ar-15s at ufos over the tree line good stuff sounds very dangerous and the guidestones and my side quest of trying to figure out

who bombed the Guidestones. Oh, yeah, yeah. Nice. And we forgot to take the Irish flag off the wall. That works. I'm Irish, so I'll take it. We were studying people with having exorcisms and things. And some people, I think Caro mentioned

that it may be people that are having epileptic fits, but they're untreated before they knew what epilepsy was. And then they'd start screaming. And then they'd be like oh my god there's like a demon inside but i don't know did you i i think for different people they have different ways of interpreting it i think i met some people who were uh filled with something that i can't fully explain it's in the book yeah nice branding by the way i'm ian cross on everybody what's happening hey surge yo and i am surge.com what What's up, guys? Hope you're well. Just before we get started, some people are saying they tried to sign up for the Discord.

They're having issues. If you do ever have any issues, email members at TimCast.com. We'll get it sorted for you. I think there's, what, like 1,500 people hanging out in the Discord chatting all right now. And I think about 1,000 plus are already in the VIP lounge chat simply because they've been members for long enough. So hang out, man. We got it set up. We're, we are trying to figure out like if you have a thousand people, how do we get someone to call in? Cause it still means you're a one in a 1000 chance.

You know, if 50 people submit a question, only one person is going to get in. So maybe we'll do like two or three questions per day, but we'll try our best. We'll try our best. Anyway, let's jump into this first story from the New York Times. New York authorities prepare for unprecedented arrest of an ex-president ahead of a likely indictment. Law enforcement officials are making security plans as some of Donald J. Trump supporters signal that they intend to protest. Signal Donald Trump called for them to protest. Here's the video. Robert Cost said steel barricades arriving outside Manhattan criminal court. Okay, I said district court earlier. Correction, criminal court. And they're getting ready for it.

I do not believe that they would put up. Oh, wow. He's got a lot of videos of this. Holy crap. I don't believe they would do this unless they actually were planning to indict Trump. Because if they don't indict him, there'd be they actually were planning to indict trump because if they don't indict him there'd be no protest right nothing would happen this is where i saw like when i was deciding if it like you know if it's going to happen tomorrow or not that was a

big indicator that's it do you guys see what uh msnbc said when it came to trump's calls for for protests they're saying you know calling for another january 6th yeah calling for people to pick up arms what that's that's the way that they're interpreting it it's like to pick up arms yeah yeah pick up arms and or calling for violence that's that's what it is now yeah so it's like you know it's just like what they have they interpreted january 6th like when they hear certain words like we're gonna fight for our country they take it and make it the most vicious interpretation oh youtube does the same thing all the time i gotta tell people like if they want to give you a strike you say something you gotta fight for your right like whoa oh wow

he that's called for violence these insane standards that they hold for the right it's it's so comical to be like 2020 the riots of 2020 they would do everything that they could to basically work it down if a super violent riot they would work it down to just be an oh it's just some people there's like a whole parking lot on fire and that's the standard that the police station was burning down in the like fiery but mostly peaceful that's where the meme comes like in portland at the marco hatfield federal courthouse trying to burn down the courthouse with federal agents inside and they're still not reporting on it all trump has to say is hey go protest and that's a call for for action a call for violence i didn't hear his call but

what was it like if he gets arrested, he wants people on the street? He said protest. No, he said protest. He said protest and we need to take our country back, which they also interpret as something malicious. It's so vague. Should he be more specific, like be here at this time, protest, illegal or unjust arrests of presidents

and things like that? I want to read this real quick, sorry. This is from the New York Times because there's interesting framing here. They say, if Donald Trump is indicted by a Manhattan grand jury in the days ahead for his role in a hush money payment to a porn star, the former president of the United States of America will be read the standard Miranda warning. He will be told that he has the right to remain silent and the right to an attorney. These are among the routine steps for felony arrests in New York. But the unprecedented arrest of a former commander in chief, one who's devoted supporters, once staged a violent attack on the Capitol, will be anything but routine.

Let me pause there for a minute. Is Trump being charged with a felony? I don't know. My understanding is that it was a misdemeanor. If guilty, they're seeing that as a misdemeanor. And that's, what, two years that they can go after that after the there must be a mistake crime that they're talking about let me let me statute of limitations is like two years in new york state for a uh misdemeanor five years for a felony but they're trying to tie it to

campaign malfeasance finance malfeasance to take it off the past the uh that's how they're trying to extend it past that five years even because we're talking about a da that's looking at something that's a typically if if guilty maybe a misdemeanor at best but they're trying to go for not not only a felony but they're trying to go for a felony past that five they are trying to charge with the felony yeah that's my point because they said a routine step for felony arrests is a clever wording trick to make it seem like he's being charged with a felony if he isn't. You see what I mean? Like if I were to say something like, I am going to arrest James here, then I will read him as Miranda rights, which is normal in felony arrests.

It's like the reader then thinks you committed a felony when it could be like you were jaywalking and I'm giving you a citation or something. You know what I mean? Right. They just put the word there so it goes in your brain. Exactly. And you assume that's what it means. No, it's tricky wordplay.

It assumes guilt right away. When did this supposed bribe, is that what it is for Stormy Daniels, hush money, when did it get paid? 2016, before the election. That's what they were talking about.

I guess it happened, like the action that they're all talking about happened, they were saying 2006. Wow. And then 2016, this hush money,

more of like a NDA. Hush money is, do people usually say that for an NDA? Hush money? I don't think so. I think hush money is like when you commit a crime. You know what I mean? Like if someone catches you committing a crime

and you're like, I'll give you money if you don't say anything. Right. Hush money seems suspicious. This is just an NDA. This is like they hooked up and he's like, but don't tell anybody

and we come to an agreement on non-disclosure. It's like a contract. Right. It's like, I'll give you X money in exchange for X behavior. I don't know if there's any, how is that illegal? Well, and a lot of people were also talking about it possibly being some sort of like nuisance or hopefully that's the right phrase, payment. Because $130,000, when you're trying to win an election, if they were actually, if it was for that purpose, right? If it was for that purpose, right? If it was for that purpose that they're arguing, $130,000 to a billionaire seems a little bit low, doesn't it?

Especially when it comes to – Yeah, what was it? She was going to write a book or something? If it was the case. Like if it was the case, if he cheated on her or whatever, if he was trying to keep that quiet. I honestly – I think they pay more than that. I think it's all nonsense. If they can arrest him for this, we should be able to arrest every president right now for everything else.

You've got to look at the Tar Reid allegations against Joe Biden. You've got to look at the Hunter Biden allegations with Burisma and the bribery. So the allegation against Trump is that he gave some chick he banged money so she wouldn't talk about it. The allegation against Joe Biden is he slammed Obama up against the wall and forced himself on her. In the Capitol. In the Capitol. Now, to be be fair it was 30 years ago you're going to be hard pressed to find any evidence of this the same thing with talk with um blasey ford and and kavanaugh although that one lacks any credibility so much so they had to keep calling it a credible what do they call it a

credible accusation or something yeah credibly accused and it was like you're saying that because it's not like you're saying it over and over again because the people who listen to you and follow you are dumb as a box of rocks right right and you need them to repeat it because there's nothing credible about a lady 30 years later lying about everything and then accusing some like boy scout of being a gang rapist yeah bringing absolutely zero evidence and everyone in his life was like oh he's a great guy at that time like what do you don't know. And then that other lady was like, he would line up outside of rooms and the men would all gangbang women. And it's like, bro, if that happened, it would be like the cover of a newspaper. It'd be the biggest scandal in the college's history.

For sure. Never happened. For sure. The reason that presidents tend to pardon past presidents when they get out of office is because you want to avoid this kicking the ball. Like what will happen is if Trump really gets persecuted and arrested, then when Biden gets out of office is because you want to avoid this kicking the ball. Like what'll happen is if Trump really gets persecuted and arrested, then when Biden gets out of office and another administration comes in, they very likely will arrest Biden for the same kind of crap. And then you'll have a cycle of arrests and political persecution, which devolves into anarchy and a loss of government. Ford pardoned Nixon, right? Yeah. And the long national nightmare is a way to try to bridge the gap and all the division and you know chaos that was going on in the country and i don't think that's something that would happen in the current political climate we're like biden's gonna pardon anybody i don't know

if he's gonna pardon anybody he might because we talked about we talked about this before but the first thing i'll say in is trump is being persecuted if he's prosecuted it's something entirely different they've been persecuting trump for a long time just coming after him for anything for any reason because they hate him because they're a zombie cult you know there you go well also i think it's important to kind of explain what's going on here with the district attorney right they've looked into this uh quote hush money multiple times you this is i believe the third go at. Every other time from much higher courts, they're saying, OK, well, there's not really enough to charge Trump for anything here. Now we have a very, very progressive Soros DA in Manhattan that's just saying, OK, well, we'll give it a shot. I'm sure if I get him in front of a – or if I present this in front of a grand jury, we got a good shot at it.

Get him subpoenaed and force him in a criminal trial to testify and we'll get him on something but this is him of perjury or something for this da he has a a record of of downgrading charges they're they're not uh they're not prosecuting what is it prostitution right now they're not prosecuting for resisting arrest or any of that going on he's a very progressive da DA that is super soft on crime. But for this, he's going as hard as possible on a, quote, crime that if it were to be the case, it would be a six-year-old misdemeanor. But I think Biden might actually pardon Trump. Well, let me clarify. These are state charges. Biden cannot pardon Trump for state charges. But I think in the event of if there was a federal case, Biden does have a good incentive to pardon Trump for the optics of we don't play the games that Donald Trump does.

When he says, I am instructing the DOJ to cease this activity. You know, we're a nation of law and order, blah, blah, blah. At the same time, he might play the we're a nation of law and order. Therefore, he must be charged. But I think there's a possibility in a federal event that Biden would be like, I'm the bigger man. Look at me. I think there's a lot of people who would reject that, who like Biden and who hate Trump so much that if he were to pardon Trump, they would see that as a weak thing for their side. Yeah. This is a group of people that don't care what it is. They're bloodthirsty. They want to see him behind bars.

Are zombies bloodthirsty, right? Kind of. But I see him behind bars. Are zombies bloodthirsty, right? Kind of. But I don't know if you call them bloodthirsty, right? They might not know they are because they're brainless is what you're saying, but they are after blood regardless. It's an interesting question. Vampires are bloodthirsty quite literally, right? And so when we refer to someone as a vampire,

it's like a corporate CEO who's like, maybe they're running a big drug company that's getting guaranteed contracts to push some kind of experimental drug in the population we'd call that person a vampire as like an insult a zombie i don't know if you call bloodthirsty you just call like there's no brain there to have that it's just it's just chaos and destruction yeah so we just call them zombies zombies don't still need to eat i don't think. They can just stand there for like a thousand years. It depends which zombie universe you're in.

Yeah, which I'm watching. Are these the running zombies? Which kind of zombie do we got here? They're the voting zombies for sure. But I don't know. What we need to do is you got to starve the zombies out by turning off all social media for like a month and then just watch them all spin around confused not

knowing who they're supposed to pretend to be i think it'd be fun is it irreversible damage though i don't know if turning it off for a month will even fix it no you like like a month later there's just people standing in the middle of the street their eyes are white and they're just like not moving it's like well there's nothing there anymore it's like when adam and eve realized they were human for the first time and that they were naked in a garden that was what would happen to the zombies they'd be like oh yeah you're you and i'm me they time and that they were naked in a garden, that was what would happen to the zombies. They'd be like, oh, you're you and I'm me. They're realizing that they can like think critically by themselves without being told what to do.

I will say, I think I think from my personal experience, I think that the left is off rails enough right now to where they they they they're just bloodthirsty when it comes to Donald Trump. They don't care what the consequences are of locking him up for something that's completely absurd. It's obviously political persecution, right? It's obviously political persecution, but I don't think they care at all. And I don't even think that they care. I don't think they're thinking far enough ahead to even see this being a major help to Donald Trump and his campaign. He's already raising money, using this to raise money right now. This is going to be the biggest thing for his campaign.

If you think that the energy behind Donald Trump's campaign in 2016 was big, this is what we're seeing right now in the U.S. that we're living in today and what we're seeing right now with this political persecution. This is 10 times worse than when he was elected. Let me play this Trump truth. Donald Trump posted this today at 307, effectively accusing Alvin Bragg of, I guess, abusing a woman. We'll put it that way. Let's play the ad for George Soros funded Democrat Alvin Bragg is known as the worst DA in the country. His soft on crime policies have unleashed violent criminals on innocent citizens and turned New York City

into a hellscape of crime, drugs, and chaos. However, Alvin Bragg's crimes against the people of New York may just be the tip of the iceberg. Before Bragg's election, it was revealed that Soros cut off $500,000 in funds to Bragg's campaign. It was reported that there were disturbing allegations leveled against Bragg by an unnamed woman. There was no investigation into the victim's charges by the Manhattan DA's office, and Alvin Bragg is yet to be charged. I'm the only thing standing between the American dream and total anarchy, madness, and chaos. And that's what it is. I representing you i'm just here always remember they are coming after me because i am fighting for you that's what's happening

so he's already using this to campaign right but um i hate to do it but he's making me defend Alvin Bragg. All right. Here's the issue, right? Alvin Bragg was not formally accused by anybody who we know. An unnamed woman is the story. And there were no charges. What does that say? It says he didn't do anything. That's it.

If some unnamed anonymous woman accused him of doing something and there were no charges, am I going to be like, oh man, you know, I gotta go for that. That Donald Trumpald trump's a bad guy no i'm not playing that game i don't like brag i don't like soros funded ds i think they're awful i think this guy's destroying new york city well i think they have enough ammunition against him to not even

bring that up i think i think just takes away from how bad he is as a da and by the way probably the worst da in the country is philly's. I forgot the name of the Philly person. I mean, Philadelphia is a wasteland. A wasteland. Those videos are so sad. But I think that they have more than enough ammunition on Bragg to just completely ignore all those distractions right there.

I think that takes away from how bad of a job he's already doing as district attorney. Is this Larry Krasner, Philadelphia DA? Yeah, that's another Soros. That's like a top Soros one, I believe. Soros is a vampire. Yeah, I think a good analogy for that guy. He's an evil MF.

Evil? Oh, guys, he is the evil. He's the definition of evil. I mean, he's like as evil as they come. He thinks he's good. That's what's weird about it. Yeah, sure. I don't think he thinks he's good that's what's weird yeah sure i don't

think he thinks he's good i look neutral i know there there are a lot of people that i think they think they're good and there are a lot of people that will play the philosophical game of like there's such a thing as good or evil there's the actions blah blah i don't care like i get it everybody thinks it's a hero of their own story, but George Soros is just an evil guy. He spends tens of millions of dollars electing district attorneys, the most liberal district attorneys in the United States that are letting criminals back on the streets. Liberal is the incorrect word. Leftists. Yeah, sorry.

You're right about that. They're not liberal at all. But I don't think leftists is either. He's funding Joker acolytes. He's funding – someone actually commented in one of my earlier segments. I said what these DAs are doing is like the Joker releasing all of the bad guys from Arkham Asylum. Someone mentioned Bane did that. Bane in Batman releases

all of the criminals into the city. I think that was the movie, though. Pretty sure it's the Joker that breaks everybody out of Arkham Asylum in the comics. Either way, comic book villainy. These Soros DAs are comic book villains who are unleashing crime

into all of these cities. It's like Lexx luther level stuff who is in charge of power who was in charge of releasing all the prisoners from prisons uh when kovid started with lockdowns when they were telling you go to jail for breaking lockdown they were literally all doing it they're doing in california too yeah that's when i started feeling like america had turned into arkham when everyone's just getting told they can leave the prisons but then if you don't mask up or do whatever they will arrest you and put you in jail they want you to wear a mask in a store now the salon i don't know if it's now the salon owner in texas who got arrested and i think abbott it

was abbott or someone pointed out you're arresting this woman because she opened her salon while releasing violent criminals because of covid policies what is going on the lady who was telling stuff on Facebook Live. And it came to her store. And it came and got her. Well, the most shocking thing too is a lot of people aren't capable of like processing the whole job of a district attorney.

So it's kind of this like invisible enemy within cities. What happens is they let all these bad guys out, these violent criminals back on the street. They commit crimes, crime rates skyrocket. And then it gives Democrats another boogeyman that's not the district attorney. They focus on guns and taking away more gun rights. They leverage those high crime statistics to strip more of your rights away instead of focusing on the just garbage district attorneys in these cities. I was regarding this video that Trump put out that we just listened to. I don't like that

he's going at, that he does the personality like, oh, I got attacked. I'm going to attack the guy that attacked me. I want to do personal attacks. And also he sounded tired, man. I just listened to this Biden video of him vetoing the Senate, the congressional bill that they're trying to pass. And Biden sounds like this when he's talking. Like he's so old, withered, and tired. And now Trump sounds just tired. These guys, we need new blood. This is just so silly.

Trump hasn't looked the same in a while. Is he 76 right now, Trump? I think so. Yes, yes, I agree. But I think, you know, Trump's got to finish that character arc. He's got to finish what he came here to do. Yeah, he's 76. He's the front runner for a reason.

The story is not over yet. We are on, you know, we're nearing the final chapters, but we are still not at the end of the book. I hope so, because I voted for 2020, but the pardoning thing was one of the things that really bothered me. The way he went out with the pardoning, you know?

Who he pardoned, who he didn't pardon. Refusing to do Julian Assange. That was a pretty weak move. He didn't pardon the J6ers. Right. He could have got those guys out of prison. Right. And I'm not talking about, look, if someone committed a violent crime, charge, arrest them. That's fine.

Yeah. But some of these people were sitting in for six months or even years. Some people are still there for trespassing and misdemeanors. I have actually a guy that I know. He went in there, just reporter. He's been casual reporter, basically a registered Democrat, I think his whole life. Not a hardcore political guy either. Just kind of standard, you know, California guy, Democrat.

And he went in there with a DSLR camera around his neck. Nonviolent crime. Going to prison for four years. Wait, what? Going to prison for four years. His problem was, is he was an independent journalist and photo journalist. And I don't believe he had a totally legit trespass. But yeah, I mean, you're talking at at worst you're talking what is that a trespassing

charge but what they do with these people they're making an example out of them and they're and they're pinning them with obstruction of an official proceeding and and getting them with these insane charges that like if you look at this guy for one second like he's not obstructing anything literally went in there with a camera to go document what was happening on january 6th yeah well they went to prison for four years. There was that John Sullivan guy, whatever his name was. Yes, exactly what I was thinking. He was in there filming and documenting and they got him as well.

And he was instigating on some of those videos. He was. Did he break a window or something? He was instigating in a lot of those videos. And he sold that footage to a lot of corporate media places. Wow. CNN.

And was on those places as like a talking head, and then it came out that he may be a bad actor. No know, no one knows. They said he was Antifa, maybe all these different things. He was radical. Yeah. I believe he was, but they will say he wasn't. Can you do a thing where if you're going to pardon, cause I think there's a lot of confusion of who did what. So rather than be like, I'm going to pardon these 40% of these people. Cause you still don't know who did what can you say? I'm going to pardon every instance of this crime between the hours of 1 PM and 9 PM and 9 p.m. in this place? And then later when we find out who was involved in that particular...

I'm going to pardon all the trespassing violations. So then later as it comes out, like who did what, every time a trespassing violation comes out, it gets tossed. Is that a potential way to pardon crimes? I have no idea. All that matters is... They're making an example out of these people. Trump had a couple of weeks left and he could

have been like, nope, get him out. What a drop of the ball for leadership. I agree with you. I would say I look at these J6ers the same way I look at Alex Jones and a few of the others when it came to testing the waters with censorship in America. You know, I really look at these J6ers

as testing the waters when it came to political persecution in the United States. And look what they're doing now. Look how far they're about to go. Like, actually going after Donald Trump for some BS, you know, charge. You made a good point

earlier before we were recording about how this is like, the image of this will be so explosive. Just the perp walk. Oh, they're literally doing it just for that. And it'll be for both sides, that image. They're going to use it on on the left is like look at this we've destroyed this monster this boogeyman we've created on corporate media and then the trump side will be like we're going to put it on shirts and sell it yeah we got nelson mandela basically i don't see a way that it doesn't backfire i i see this as being i mean you know you don't want to be like indicted that's awful but but i see it as being amazing for trump's

campaign and trump honestly it's going to be like that meme of's awful. But I see it as being amazing for Trump's campaign and Trump, honestly. It's going to be like that meme of Kyle Rittenhouse and Greta Thunberg where it says compare our 17-year-old with their 17-year-old tells you everything you need to know. And the left and the right share the meme in the exact same ways. To the left, they're like, wow, Greta Thunberg. Ew, Kyle. And the right's like, ew, Greta. Wow, Kyle. But it's the same image.

It exemplifies what Scott Adams was saying about the same screen with two different movies on it the same it's nuts so we're going to see a photo of Trump being arrested and the left is going to share it and be like oh this proves it and the right's going to share it like oh this proves it sounds like an NFT

waiting to be made right and I guess to clarify what I just said fantastic for trump when it comes to raising money to getting his base you know uh re-energized awful for the country yeah awful yes because if you're a democrat amazing for law and order and for our democracy and if you're a trump supporter republican it's amazing for his campaign and chance for re-election and then all it's doing is pushing everybody into hyper tribalization man when i was like 10 i i learned about nelson mandela it was like in the late 80s and he was in jail or just got let out of jail and i asked my dad like why was he in jail and

he was a political prisoner and i was like what what does that mean what did he do wrong and he's like no no it just means that the government didn't like him and i was like 10 or 11 when i learned that they could do that i was like what they can just put you in jail if they don't like? Imagine being born in any other part of the world or at any other time. Yeah, where you go out and say, I don't like that guy. And they cut your head off on the street and be like, he talked crap about the governor. You're not allowed to do that. We're lucky that we can protect ourselves.

We're so lucky. And I don't think we get it for very long to be honest with you i think i think you know we're we're slipping when it comes to that polite society that moral society that holds on to that you know amazing life that we've grown up with i think we're slipping away from that for sure let's jump to the story from politico de santa says he won't get involved with trump's potential indictment in any way right now on twitter Twitter, it's heating up. I'm seeing, you know, Ben Shapiro. He's quote tweeting Matt Walsh, internal riff at the Daily Wire over whether or not Ron DeSantis could, should or would extradite Donald Trump. Now, it seems based on questions asked to DeSantis himself, he's not going to get involved in the indictment in any

way, which sounds like he's saying outright. I will not extradite Donald Trump from Mar-a-Lago to New York. But what happens to a country when a state indicts a former president for the first time in history who's also the current front runner? Then the state that where he is says, am not going to get involved he's not getting extradited what do they do send in the fbi to go extradite him why would the fbi do it i don't know i read somewhere that the secret service is supposed to be the one in charge of this like they're sent out to arrest so the secret service will act upon a state warrant that doesn't seem to make sense to me no none of it makes sense yeah no I think if you want

to say we're living in a simulation in the computer type way that it feels like AI is writing all of this yeah we're gpi is writing all of this trumpets six fingers we're we're trying something new this is crazy this is this is new you know I looked into it um and a lot of times like the only time that maybe a governor won't give someone over might be like for death penalty, let's say. And they don't one state believes in it. One another state doesn't. Never for really something like this, obviously, where it's a felony of guilty or more likely, you know, this is more of a misdemeanor, but they're going after a felony. But it also gets just wrapped up in the courts within the state.

The problem is, if DeSantis says he won't get involved and he commits to that, and this is actually happening, that he will absolutely not become president of the United States whenever he wants that base to support him, that Trump base. He needs that Trump base. It's not just about the Trump base. It would be an utmost sign of weakness and a failure of leadership if he allows trump to be arrested also within his speech that he's talking about uh you know not getting involved he's saying that it's political persecution okay so if you're saying it and you're admitting to it but you're also at the

same time saying you're not going to do anything about it are you serious be a leader like you're saying exactly supporters happy like jeb bush you know right bush would like this rhetoric from desantis yes that's why he has jeb bush in his corner it's not even sure it's it's it's already bad enough desantis wasn't strong enough in his in his statement saying i'm not going to get involved in any way is already bad enough if he actually lets trump be extradited so here's what needs to happen desantis if he wants to prove he's presidential, he says Donald Trump, he needs to come out and say Donald Trump will not be extradited from this state under my watch for a political persecution.

He is the front runner for the Republican Party's 2024 presidential run. He is a former president and everyone can see these charges are political. If you make any attempt to come into my state, I will use the full force of the executive branch to stop you. That is presidential. Yeah. And if he's not doing that, he goes, I'm not going to get involved. Yeah. And a lot of people say like, oh, well, Trump's been taking jabs at him. I totally understand that. I totally get it. But if you do, if you are looking to run for president, either 2024 or the session after, you know, if you want to be a leader, lead like what you're saying. I mean, lead the way everyone's people are saying, oh, well, he's just a governor for Florida. What other what other governors are saying anything? Well, nobody's a governor that's in the position that DeSantis is in.

What are they so scared of? What is everyone so scared of? Ask yourself this question right now. And I mean this with the utmost sincerity. What are you scared of? Why didn't you jump out of that plane when you went skydiving the first time when you were there with your friends and they opened the door and then you changed your mind the last minute and rode the plane back down and said, I just couldn't do it. Why didn't you go down that double black diamond with your friends when they went skiing? What are you scared of? Now, in those circumstances, I get it. What if my parachute fails? What if I go too fast? I crash, I break my bones? That I get. For Ron DeSantis, for a political position, what are you so scared of? What is anyone scared of when it comes to

standing up? Well, what if some bad thing happens? Bad things are already happening. They're talking about indicting a former president for the first time on what we know is complete BS charges well past the statute of limitations to try and stop him in any way they can from being president because he's winning. What does Ron DeSantis fear by just getting on camera, looking straight into it and saying, Alvin Bragg, go fuck yourself. What is he so scared of? I'm sorry. I'm just frustrated because I am absolutely sick in every capacity. So much of everyone being scared of nebulous political consequences. I certainly don't give a shit. And I'm thinking to myself, the last thing I'd ever want to do

is be in political office. But the more I see people, even like DeSantis, refuse to say to the camera and the press, y'all can go fuck yourselves. Then I'm just like, we need someone who's going to do it. Now I really do get why Trump won in 2016. Now I really do get why gained 12 million voters. And now I totally understand why so many more people wear his hats, fly his flag, because it's about time somebody just said, I don't care. Fuck you. I'm doing it. I think now you got me swearing.

I think it's because DeSantis is trying to pander to like the old school politics and he's trying to be the Trump, the anti-Trump figure. But we're in a post-Trump, post-COVID world where everything's upside down. Everything's insane and chaotic. But he's like this very politically vague statement is pre-COVID, pre-Trump, and it's not going to go anywhere. I don't know who he's trying to keep happy with that kind of stuff. And he's doing a fantastic job within a state.

I mean, he really is. But we're talking about the fall of the nation that's at risk here. We're talking about political persecution. I mean, hell, how many months ago did the Biden administration literally create a ministry of freaking truth? Yeah, like eight months ago. Things are 10 times worse now. You need to buckle up. You need to lead because we're trying to save the country from literally becoming an all out

banana republic. It's also we have data we didn't have before. We understand ESG and the military industrial complex and the world, you know, the new world order that the Swiss banks, the world economic performance trying to create. We understand how the CCP is influencing social governance. Like we know, so we see what we want to avoid. And I think that it gives us an opportunity to create the world in the American image with like decentralized autonomy and local governance and property rights and gun rights and speech rights and things like that. If we do nothing and bicker, they're going to create some autocracy where you get kicked off the internet, you get your bank stripped away because you said daddy wrong. Like that's what they're scared of.

Yeah. You know, and I think about it like the reason Ron DeSantis gave the answer he gave, which was like, OK, a lot of people were cheering for it. Some people rolled their eyes. I don't think it was strong enough. Better than him saying, well, you know, if they want to arrest him, they're going to have to extradite him. And I guess that'll happen.

But it wasn't a very strong statement. You know what he's worried about he's worried about his polling numbers. He's worried about when he runs for the president, eventually announcing and then resigning or whatever it is he does. He's worried that it's going to look bad to a certain voter base. Suburban women are getting angry and say, oh, he's so aggressive and abusive. And it's just like, look, man, he doesn't need to literally come out and say go f yourself to alvin bragg it was not bad that he it was really good actually he ragged on the soros da says they're evil people just right things i give him total respect for that because that is good that was the best part of

the speech i'm just saying like he needs to come out and just outright say there will not be an extradition of donald trump while i am governor of Florida. Mark my words. You will. And then, you know what I'd love to see? You want to know what really make him presidential? If when Secret Service, whoever, does show up to Mar-a-Lago, Ron DeSantis himself stands in front of the door and says, make me. You'll have to move me physically. The governor of this state. Make that happen. I dare you. That would be gangster. Then people are going to be like, damn. Yeah, that would be, that would be. But he's not going to do it. A real plan.

And I like DeSantis. He's doing a great job. Yeah, for sure. When he says like, you know, I got to bet even Trump wouldn't do something like that. Yeah, he said he's not going to get involved, quotes or whatever. So how does this work, extradition? Does it go through the governor where the governor has to say yes or no? Or does it happen completely separate of the governor? Only the governor can step in and stop it.

I'm, I'm a, to the best of my understanding, it's not necessarily up to the governor. Obviously they can come out and be the face of the position of the state, but I believe it's has to do with, you know, the courts within the state and not so much like the government, the governor just says yes and, and, or, or no. And that's what it is. I don't believe it that indicates he's going to let him get extradited and he's not going to step in to stop it. Because if it's his job to do it and he says, I'm not getting involved, that indicates he's not going to do it. But if his job is, all he can do really is stop it from happening, he says not getting involved, then he's not going to stop it from happening. Even if he was just like politically posturing and making it be known, even if he didn't have control, even if he said something

like what Tim's saying, that would help. But what he's doing right now is the exact opposite. You know who would do exactly what I just said? Carrie Lake. Yep. Yeah, I was thinking that too. Carrie Lake, 100%. She totally would. 100%.

100%. And you knew it. You said it right away. No questions. If Carrie Lake, if this was happening in her state, she would say, you will have to physically remove me and I will stand in your way with my own body to stop you from making this arrest.

She would do it. She's great, man. Yeah. When I was with her in Phoenix, I remember thinking as I was talking to her, like this lady is actual counterculture. You know, this mom in her nice dress, like that's counterculture because she was badass.

And you could tell everything she says, she means that stuff. You spent a lot of time with her. Did you interview her? No, it wasn't a lot of time, but it was, well, I guess it was a few days of me in court with her. And then I interviewed her No, it wasn't a lot of time, but it was, well, I guess it was a few days of me in court with her.

And then I interviewed her individually, like elsewhere. And yeah, I thought she was incredible. Incredible. Dude, she's one of the most interesting and most effective potential, like, you know, governors out there when it comes to how she can handle the media. There's probably no one better than her. I agree. And with everything that happened with the election,

with the misprinted ballots and all of that stuff and the ongoing lawsuits, we'll see where it ends up. But after seeing everything that's happened so far and this conversation we're having right now, I actually think if Donald Trump said she's going to be the VP, I'd say absolutely 100%. Oh, for sure. Absolutely. And before I was worried, like, well, she looked, you look, she worked in media, then she ran for office for the, I think the first time, right? I think so. And then she doesn't get the office. So what's the political experience of doing it? Not at this point, I'm kind of like, I don't care about it. I want the opposite of political experience. I want the media experience and I want the tenacity and the bravery. So when I wrote that story and I'm sitting in court, I think it was the first day for

her trial. And I'm sitting next to this guy I ended up ragging on at the end of that story, the corporate NBC type guy who's just blatantly misinterpreting the reality around him. She walks in, sees him immediately and looks at him and goes, oh, this guy writes fantasy. It's like, yes, it was amazing yeah that's remarkable yeah yeah she's incredible i wonder do you if some people have speculated it might be carrie lake for for vp what do you make sense i i think that would make sense uh or vivek ramaswamy at this point he is that's thrilling because the same thing is great he's being vocal and and great people

people aren't smart yeah people are for some reason questioning him. I mean, I guess question everyone. That's great. But he's been nailing it. Every time he opens his mouth, he's incredibly intelligent. He's incredibly successful. He's so mission-oriented. I like that. Right. One of the best assets that GOP has right now, he's not going to be president, with all due respect.

But what he's doing with the conversation is he's bringing up ESG and the woke garbage, which needs to happen. And it's being brought to the front and center. He's really going to. Donald Trump will. Well, I think right now, based on all the factors, which is going to change in a year and a half. But if the election was held today, I think Donald Trump would win.

But the conversation and the priorities of that administration would be shifted by the way you already see it being shifted. Vivek was explicit when he came on IRL, when we were at a turning point, that what we need to do is reposition our assets, our investment assets onto a different index that's not ESG sensitive. So put it in local, just different indexes, create and use different indexes. And it's the same thing that Biden just vetoed is this bill to get esg out of our investments because they're not profitable necessarily they go for like social crap over

profit yeah and it's the same thing that de sanis is refusing to allow in his state and there's a coalition of other states that are refusing esg west virginia yep and virginia west virginia was doing i think first it's really inspiring and vivek's been on the ball the entire time take his name right yeah he he's also he was on the ball he might have been the first somewhat major republican that was speaking out against trump's potential and calling yeah and calling out other and calling out other republicans for not doing that weren't weren't speaking about it he was he was the first he literally if you if you watch his videos he just grabs his cell phone yeah he he he did it right away yeah i appreciate he knew what he needed to do he knew what the answer was and he didn't waste a second to he didn't waste a second

for a big speech or anything like that he he jumped straight to it took it straight to twitter that's the kind of off the cuff stuff yeah strong you know he would be a great vp that we liked about trump back then that i don't feel trump has now but i think being surrounded by people like carrie or vivek would be very very good for his cabinet i think he's got vivek has a vision so it's easy to go off the cuff because he doesn't have to worry about saying the wrong thing because everything he already knows what needs to be said to create the vision i like that guy yeah i i've i've told this story before about well i'll put this way there's that south park joke when the b BP oil spill happened and the guy's like, we're sorry. And then he's laying in the naked underwear like, we're sorry.

It's too good. But that exemplifies everything about the media, the establishment and the politicians that I hate. And I think many Trump supporters despise. Every response, every action is canned, predictable garbage. You know what they're going to say before they say it because they have to say the lowest common denominator garbage talking point instead of just telling you the truth. And Donald Trump went up on stage and said, Rosie O'Donnell was a fat pig. And people were like, this guy's telling it like it is.

Donald Trump went before the press and said, we're selling a bunch of weapons to Saudi Arabia. It's great. So good for our economy. And that's important for working class people to hear. This is what presidents do. Finally, you have a guy who's like, screw off. Now, here's here's the thing. Trump, I think, is the herald of this personality, not the world ruler himself, because everybody knows Donald means world ruler and Trump means the heralding sound. I think he's's he he comes before something else i think he's

got to finish his arc but there needs to be somebody it might be carrie lake who has the tenacity of trump but the what's the what's i don't i don't know the the the decorum i suppose it's you no but the challenge is going to be to not go psycho. Not me. I'm saying that you take somebody like Donald Trump, who's willing to tell the media to screw off and F themselves, who's willing to say on stage that Rosie O'Donnell's a fat pig. I'm not saying it's a nice thing to do. I'm saying he was accused and he goes, only Rosie O'Donnell. Everybody laughs. Take that brute honesty, but add in that more, the decorum, I suppose, and you have the leader. Yeah. That might be Carrie Lake.

We may be talking about DeSantis prematurely, because as much as Carrie Lake is not the governor, she's the only person I can think of who would actually look into the camera and tell Bragg to F off. In the proper political way, you know what I mean? Yeah. Instead of saying, I'm not going to get involved, she she'd say i will physically bar him from entering my state you know what i mean yeah desantis is in in a tricky spot though because he can't run for governor again so you know you could you could use that momentum to run for president that's why everyone you know that's why everyone's talking about desantis that's why you know there's internal uh memos

about like him or people talking on the inside saying that he's planning on running for president because now's his time right but i think what tim's getting to is also like giving trump that extra shot you have you have you have a guy that has a second term and that's it he is going to go all out there's no worry or thought about running again there's no oh if i do this now i won't be electable for for for next election that's that's not a concern he can go all out maga unleashed trump eyes glowing super saiyan like just i'm into that i just hope he he makes up for a lot of the bad stuff i really didn't like at the end of the term not just

the pardonings but i mean mean, he was locked down. He kept Fauci in power. He did warp speed. And I loved a lot of the stuff he did prior to that. But those things almost outweigh the good. For all the nerds, he's Proto Man. And we need Mega Man. Did anybody get that reference?

I don't know Proto Man. I know Mega Man. Proto Man was Dr. Light's first creation. And I think he turned and went to work for Dr. Wiley or something like that. But I do, I would blame some of that, not all of it. I think Trump was very good at like surrounding himself with people that would consult around him that were just awful at their jobs too. Trump also made a handful of decisions on his own that were bad. But I think also there were some things that they were making the move to make it more electable for the next election like there you can't go too extreme yeah and it's like okay yeah sure a lot of people just

say do it go for it right but you can also totally botch your ability to get re-elected and so a lot of them keep that in mind when they're trying to run for a second term it's like you can't he had a hell of a first term but like you can't go unleashed right uh your first term because it'll just you'll shoot yourself in the foot yeah and he with the lockdowns i mean he he helped give him to us but he also did then we had this debate about states rights again about you know which state can lock down which can't which became beautiful for desantis you know these are these are good things to be arguing but you know having fauci around to me is a crime. Yeah. What a mischaracterization. He should have been replaced immediately.

Yeah. And have that kind of strength. For all the years he's been there and all the things he's done over the, over the decades in power, he should not have been there for this and he should have been taken out immediately. And I don't mean that in a bad way. I mean,

you know, remove him from office. Yeah. I mean, when it, well, I mean, he was doing what they want.

What I think. He was doing what he wanted. I think. Fauci. Fau Fauci and the medical industrial complex. He was working for that. Yes. I like it. I think that the United States, the people and probably the world is at a point where things, the veil is becoming lifted.

Like the liberal economic order is turning into the new world order. And now it's been like, head down. Don't say anything about it. You have all these governors. Like, I just don't want to rock the boat just keep pushing forward until we're until it's done until i get to retire whatever but it's like i think we got to be honest about how the transition is going to happen now for the people of the united states i think a leader that does that is invigorating and can build the trust of the american people and provide like a roadmap

forward if there's no roadmap man people are just going to start smashing into each other i don't know if we can have a roadmap because we exist in different dimensions like we were saying earlier with the two screens or two movies the same meme like right so we don't exist together anymore so i don't know how you bring us back let me see if i can pull this meme up actually i love the reference like calling it the matrix and people sitting on the outside of the matrix looking in and then there's the people in the matrix that like will tell you you know i hear all the time when i'm talking to you on the street like new york times that is objective news that's what it is okay you're on the outside it's not liberal like they are not aware of any biases that they have at all what they believe is just the truth and you're the exception this is the

meme it says when you are looking for the basic difference between the left and the right look to the young our 17 year old versus their 17 year old and this the basic difference between the left and the right, look to the young, our 17-year-old versus their 17-year-old. And this meme is shared by the left and the right in the exact same way to make the exact same point. I just want to make an argument real quick about the simulation. If you guys remember, they have the same birthday, too. Yeah. They have the same birthday. And Greta have the same birthday.

Same year. We talked about that, I think, when he was on the show. With him, with Rittenhouse. That's right. Luke encouraged him to get married. This is crazy. Crazy. Well, she's a foreign,

leftist, climate change, global elite, and he is a working class, suburban slash rural American kid. But you're in that dimension. In the other dimension, they flip it almost and see her as the working class, right? No, no.

Well, right. I think they do. I think they see her as like this more blue collar like activist and they see him as like this privileged elitist. Honestly, I actually, I think one of them obviously stands for liberty and they are incredibly opposed to that. Everything that that image stands for, they're incredibly opposed to. When it comes to like the liberal elite and control and passing more government regulation when it comes to

climate change and everything like that, that agenda is the most attractive thing to them because that agenda to them is safety. It's that like government controlled safe world that you live in, whereas the other one's a little bit more risky, but there's more liberty. I can sense as they're keep advancing carbon capture technology now, like oil companies are withdrawing the carbon from the air and storing it underground. They're learning how to turn it into graphene for building.

It's the momentum of the climate change thing is fizzling. I can sense it on the internet. Like it's just not exciting to complain about the future of carbon when people know you can easily, more or at least actively pull it out. It's becoming obvious that the next problem is going to be taking too much carbon out of the air. That's really interesting that you're saying that.

I'm not even familiar with that. But technology, every single year. It's like the poop in New York. It's just going to keep getting better and better. They were concerned about horse crap on the streets of New York, and the car got invented. Do you guys know about 15-minute cities? Sort of. I've heard of it. This idea that in the future everybody will live within 15 minutes of whatever they need. You'll never need to really go anywhere.

You'll have whatever you want. There's this really funny video I just saw. Someone sent it to me. And it's a guy explaining 15 minute cities. And he says, I want to explain to you the concept of the 15 minute city. And then he walks up to this shed thing and opens it and there's chickens standing there. And he goes, these are its citizens. Inside their 15-minute city, they have everything they could ever need. Then they walk

inside and he goes, there is food and water readily available. Now, they can leave whenever they want, but they don't want to because it's scary and it's dangerous outside. And why? Inside here, they own nothing, but they're happy. And he's like, and then he walks into the room and he's like, this is where they produce things that I can take for free. And then he picks the eggs up and he puts them in his sweater and he's like, here's a couple, here's a couple.

And he's like, see, in the 15 minute city, you will own nothing, you will be happy, you'll be provided for, and then we can take everything from you. And I'm like, it really is a great video explaining what their plan is how the how these city planners how these the davos group types want to run the show treating us like chickens making us do the work that they can take and keeping you locked in a chicken coop

god i've got i want you living and dying on an assembly line you know that's it do you as you guys were saying that i was like well they don't want him doing. They want like a thinking class of people to join them basically. Like, do you guys think about the plebs and the elites? Like, do you think there's a class differential? The Romans would say it's the plebs. Was it like a nutrition issue? Like all these people, they're from people that didn't have nutrition for generations. They've been bred to be stupid workers.

And then the elite class have all the good food. They can think, they can write the law. Yeah. It's the, the the what is the morlocks and the which ones that i don't know was it morlocks yeah i know what you're talking about yeah time machine or something oh but there's definitely a class issue there's country what what was the intelligent ones uh i'm looking at morlocks uh fictional species in the time antagonists are the morlocks in the he goes to the future where humans have

evolved into two different species one's really dumb and one's really smart this is from the time machine yeah oh loi loi that's what it is loi or something yeah lawyer so take a look at this article in the daily mail if there's a civil war i'm fighting trump loyalists face off with staunch liberals outside former president's nyc tower on the eve of his rumored arrest i saw this article and i thought it was really funny considering the context because like i appreciate the protesters right but i was thinking about it and like i see this picture of this dude i don't know he is uh dion cinny 54 founder of trump swag.com eating that cheeseburger and the french fries and i'm like he doesn't look like he's out of shape or anything i'm just like think about what this civil war is going to look like.

It's not going to, so like the Confederates had just, I don't know if you guys have ever seen a true Confederate uniform. Very basic. Union uniforms were like blue or whatever. It was all very basic mass produced stuff. But like a modern Civil War is going to be weird as hell. There's going to be people wearing like Uniqlo turtlenecks in Antifa. It'll be like Walmart versus Forever forever 21 those are the outfits well i mean worse than

that it's going to be like hunger city like hunger games capital city people with like you know half their head is shaved and the hair is spiked to the side and they've got weird body modifications and they're going to be waving gigantic multi-color flags of all different kinds you can't discern who is on what side because all the flags are different. But all you know is that the flag doesn't have Trump on it. They're probably not on your side. Then you're going to have people waving Trump flags of all different types. And it's like, it's going to get crazy.

Yeah, it'll be a they-them army against probably a pretty, they'd be pretty heavily armed. I would imagine the right wing would be, you know. Yeah. A lot of people bring up like the military getting involved and whatnot i would imagine if they were to actually go down it's not like military verse you it's military splits as well as same as the nation military leaders that are more right-leaning and you know believe in whatever they would believe in and people with that side man i think people really need to start reading about the civil war because

i am by no means an expert in any way. But even just visiting Gettysburg, I'm like, oh, there's so much I did not know. Like, for instance, I learned when I went to Gettysburg that one of the reasons the Confederates lost was because they were using muzzle-loaded rifles, but the Union had upgraded to breech-loading rifles. That means the Union, what breech-loading is, you crack, the gun kind of breaks in half on a hinge, like a shotgun. You know, you ever see like Elmer Fudd load a shotgun? Breach load, you break it open, you put the shell in, you close it, you can fire. The Confederates were trying to muzzle load, and the Union soldiers were just firing, boom,

real quickly. That was a technological advantage. A lot of people don't know that. They don't know what happened or why. Most people don't know the Confederates could have won the war in the first fight. I think the first battle of Bull Run, they could have just walked into D.C. and won instantly. And they decided not to. There's so much.

There's so much. But the important thing is, the reason I bring it up, how I think it was like, was it Lee who was talking? They're all West Point guys. And then they were like, but I can't fight against my own state. I have no choice but to leave and go back home. People don't get that. That you're going to have somebody who's going to be like, I grew up here. You are not going to send me to occupy my own street corner.

Somebody who was born and raised in West Virginia, who is like now living in D.C. Because it's only about an hour, two hour drive, depending on where you're at. I mean, if you're in central West Virginia, it could be four or five hours. But then they're like, OK, now we're going to have you go with this gun to, you know, your state. And they're going to be like, I don't know if I can do that. Right. Yeah.

That will happen. Shelby Foote is a historian, someone I was looking at a lot reading when I was writing this book. And he said he's from the South. He said something about the union thought they were fighting to keep the union together. And the South was fighting the Second American Revolution. But there are a lot of people who live down there who didn't give a crap about the war at all. But if you came into their territory, they're going to fight you, which to the Union looks like you're a Confederate,

but they're just defending their property because they see them as an invading force. Exactly. Yeah. And in the South, they were like, there would be sons who saw the North as an invading force, and their fathers fought the British in the Revolution who saw the British as an invading force. So it's like two generations in a row, basically, of fighting invading forces. And that's crazy.

Super crazy. Wow. That's wild. I mean, I haven't even checked out any of that stuff. I haven't gone to any of those battlegrounds or anything like that. I would love to. Gettysburg's a cool place.

I mean, the whole city is basically a Civil War museum. Antietam's close, too. Harper's Ferry is wild. Yeah, Antietam. Harper's Ferry. We ride our bikes past Antietam. Beautiful. Whenever we go up to,

what's that little town? Do you know which one it is? Hagerstown? No, no, no. There's a little bitty one. Sharpsburg. Sharpsburg. Yeah.

The best ice cream in Maryland. I know, man. For those that don't know, there's like this really famous, it's like a dollar for this bowl of ice cream. Giant ice cream. Crazy.

Yeah. But Antietam's right there and it's beautiful. And they have, they've put up all of these Civil War informational things everywhere you go. We're really close to John Brown's raid headquarters in Harper's Ferry. John Brown's house is the only place I ever felt a Black Lives Matter flag should be. I was like, okay, that makes sense there. The one in Ohio?

For John Brown? No, in Harper's Ferry. I agree. Because I think he would. But like. I was like, okay, that makes sense there. The one in Ohio? For John Brown? No, in Harper's Ferry. I agree. Because I think he would, but like, He would like it, of course. John Brown, I think, was a crazy person.

Well. I think he had something right about slavery being bad, obviously. He went about it in a different way. Yeah, he went about it in a wrong way. But that's the problem I have with Antifa, too. Right. Like, Antifa is like,

hey, there's a bad thing happening in government. And I'm like, yeah, I really agree about that. So why did you firebomb a black person's business right you know it's like well like dude john brown raids an armory and none of the slaves wanted to fight with him they were like dude what are you doing with all his sons yeah yeah and it's just not to mention he just went and murdered people and then there's bleeding kansas and all that stuff a lot of people were like dude we agree with you but this is not the not the way we want to go about doing it. I don't know.

I don't think he was right. But there's a question of whether or not the people who are refusing to fight were right as well. I believe he thought slavery was just going against God. And he had a calling by God, I believe, to go do it. But he wasn't right about going and shooting people in the face. The violence part is where I stop too. I obviously don't want violence.

Yeah, I think of that as like abortion clinics and stuff. I think the first person hanged by the federal government. Is that true? No, he was hanged by Virginia, I'm pretty sure. I think he was one of the first people. I forget where it was. I have to look that up. One of the first people of something.

Other than destroying all those things. We did a video the other day asking people if um the civil war was enough payment for like slavery reparations and stuff like if that was enough payment in terms of what like in terms of like there's talk about just a bunch of cash but yeah yeah the bloodshed and stuff seeing like hey was that a sufficient payment for slavery or no i love when white people are saying that uh this they did nothing white people did nothing for slavery i'm like well white people also did fight the Civil War, too.

And won it. And stopped it. Not only did hundreds of thousands of lives lost. Like two million. Was it two million? I wrote through scenes in this book that are based on diary entries from different soldiers from all over the place

from both sides. You can smell the blood in their diary, like in terms of how they write it. Between 601 million dead. Yeah. And so on the Union side, you had 290,000 dead Union soldiers. The Confederate side was 365,000 dead soldiers. The total casualties, injured, prison of war, et cetera,

864,000 on the Union side and 828,000 dead soldiers. The total casualties, injured, prison of war, et cetera, 864,000 on the Union side and 828,000 on the Confederate side. So it's like 290,000 people died, 864,000 people suffered some kind of injury. Is that not enough for the country to be ripped apart, for people to be shooting and killing each other, for the march to the sea the ransacking and destruction of the burning of richmond none of that when they come out and

they're like this country was built on slavery it's like and it was also burned down partly because of it so i mean i kind of feel like you know the payment's done you know when slavery was abolished there was the population was like 25 million people so i you know they're they're it's obviously it's evil what was happening with slavery but to to suggest that uh the country was built on slavery it's like really the slaves built new york or like what are you talking about i mean to be fair like in a certain respect yes in a lot of these places slaves did construction slaves worked at the stores and a lot of people don't understand this either most most i would imagine if you ask you should maybe do this most americans view of a slave is probably coming from

these movies where it's like a a black man in a field being whipped what they don't also realize is that a lot of slaves were like cobblers and they were repeat there were people in cities working at stores and doing regular trade work but they just weren't getting, they weren't free to leave. They couldn't do whatever they wanted. They couldn't own property. They couldn't read or write, or some of them could, but they typically couldn't.

People don't understand that slaves did all manners of work. And like none of it was good. You keep taking away someone's agency to strip them from the work they produce is like the antithesis of what this country is supposed to be. But in that respect, yeah, in places like New York, slaves did provide a large component.

And then the country ripped in half, shot at each other like crazy. Cities were burnt to the ground. Nearly two million people suffered some kind of casualty with nearly a million dead. And I'm kind of like, what is that? One twenty fifth of the entire population suffered, died? What was, let me, let me. No, that's right.

That's right. Yeah. I think 25 million would probably be a high estimate during the Civil War. Is that adult age or total? I think that's total. I believe that's off the top of my head. 25 million.

31 million people. There were, in 1860, the US population was 31 million people there were third in 1860 the u.s population was 31 million i wonder how many adults so 1 30th of the country died because of yeah mostly because of slavery i mean you ask people who are from the south and who have family and history they'll tell you it wasn't because of slavery and people need to understand the nuance there like it's like you were saying yeah for somebody who just lived in you know i don't know arkansas or something you've got union soldiers marching through shooting burning and you're like i don't know or care you know you're fighting right the other thing is people will will look at the civil war and be like

the union's all good confederates all bad i mean if you know anything about history it's just that's such a false way of looking at it pretty sure the most evil dude in the whole thing was sherman sherman hated black people uh wrote about it fairly extensively and then also was okay with one of his one of his guys who was i believe a general uh someone beneath him though so he's not a general but he was a union guy who happened to be named jefferson davis oddly enough so the simulation's been happening since the civil war but this this union soldier named Jefferson Davis was in charge of, they didn't like freed slaves following them, so they killed them. They pulled out the bridge from beneath them as they were trying to cross a river in Georgia during the March to the Sea, killed them. I believe it was

hundreds. I put it in the book. It's a crazy thing. That's fine. Real quick for people who don't know, the March to the the sea, I believe was the first instance of scorched earth. Scorched earth here. Yeah. Yeah. Scorched earth refers to in war, destroying arable land, burning down houses, killing civilians, et cetera, so that nothing can be rebuilt and you decimate their, their chance. They would reconstruct. It would make Sherman neckties. They'd burn the railroad tracks and then pull them and stretch them around trees so the trains couldn't get

to the Confederate camps, burned everything down. And then there's a lot of people who would claim that Sherman came to their house and burnt it down. But there were also people who were like advantageous

and become marauders and had nothing to do with Sherman, but then went and destroyed things to pilfer because- That's still his fault. Exactly. Yeah, because he created the atmosphere where

it's actual hell on earth. He said he wanted to make the south uh i believe squeal scorched earth yeah that did it to germany so evil dude well that's evil it's it's not it's not it's a war tactic it's really not even yeah no i mean it's war no sherman sherman i'm sorry i put this in the book i look at sherman as our first atom bomb you know and he went down to the south and just decimated and those people are and he went down to the South and just decimated. And those people are reeling from that to the today, like in the town in the book, you know, even though Sherman didn't make it to this exact town, these people have family dating back to the revolution in Georgia, pre Georgia, pre United States. And they're still feeling like

effects from just how decimated Georgia was from the sea. So for the people who are in the South, because there was a percentage of these states who were in favor of staying with the union and who opposed slavery. In fact, Virginia initially voted to stay with the union and it wasn't until the federal troops got sent down to Fort Sumter that they just, or I think it was slightly after this,

they were like, whoa, this is getting crazy. We're going to break off and then four more states joined. So for what people don't realize is that these states weren't in unison being like, hurrah, secession. There was a vote and there was a split and there was debate. So let's say you're a family that just happened to live in Georgia. Let's put it this way. Let's put it in a modern context. Let's say you are living in Shepherdstown, West Virginia. It's like fairly woke, huh? Oh, yeah. But you're in West Virginia, which is 86% MAGA. Imagine if there was a civil war and West Virginia being MAGA country gets invaded by

Union soldiers and then the Union. Let's say Federal National Guard come in, take over your house, occupy it. You have no idea why, even though you're like, I don't agree with these people. I don't like what's going on. There's gunfights and they burn down your property and everything your family owned is now gone. Do you deserve reparations? After the war is done immediately after, should they come and say, we're sorry that our invasion of the state had a negative impact on you. We are going to help rebuild your home.

Actually, at the there's actually, I believe, like a statute for that because it's like during some current, it has to fall around like a current time. So you would deserve reparations from the federal government immediately after if the federal government did something like that to your property. And I will say real quick about the massacre about what I was saying with Sherman in March of the Sea, Lincoln did go down and then he took

some land from people and gave it to the families of the freed slaves who did survive. Well, so here's my point. Let's say you were a family in Georgia and you're like, we don't like slavery. We don't want to be involved in slavery. We don't want to secede from the union. We can't control it.

We're not in politics. We're just some farmers who mind our own business. Then Sherman comes, walks up to your house and throws a torch in it, destroys everything. Your kids struggle to survive. Maybe some siblings die. Now it's 100 or so years later, and you're living in a trailer where your family used to be farmers of modest living and moderate living. You are now impoverished. Do you deserve reparations for the destruction the Union forces brought to your land? If it's 100 years later, I have a hard time saying yes to that. I'm not saying yes or no. I'm saying when they go to Californians

and say we're going to give you reparations despite the fact that California was admitted as a free state and has always been against it. It's like it's just absolutely ridiculous. What they're talking about in California is San Francisco they're talking about $5 million per descendant of

slave or whatever. You have to check a couple boxes. There's like eight options. If you check like a few of them or whatever you have to check a couple boxes there's like eight options and if you check like a few of them or whatever you can get that five million dollars and it's like an unbelievable amount of money but also california as a whole july they have 223 000 that they're trying to give to um each senator slave in the state you don't need to be black you need to identify as black it did say that yeah it's true and so we went over this and there's there's certain criteria where someone like rachel dolezal will be eligible no joke let's uh but let's let's let's move on from clown world baby i think they should do it look i gotta mention too the the

greta kyle rittenhouse birthday thing is really crazy it's crazy but let's move on to the next apocalyptic story and that's the uh the collapse, because we have this from the Washington Post. Why $17 billion in Credit Suisse bonds became worthless. I don't care about Credit Suisse. It's a big bank. It's imploding. UBS, what is that? United Banking Systems or something like that?

Does anyone want to check? I think Union or something. Let's just double check, because I forget. What is it? It's not telling me. It's not telling you what is it it's not telling me it's not telling you look at this group yeah it's got to be bad just do ubs wiki bro anyway the bank bank of switzerland union bank of switzerland you see there you go they're gonna buy out it's formerly the union bank of switzerland then they changed it to ubs i see but what is okay it used to stand

for something now it just stands for ubs investment bank so so ubs is going to buy credit suisse but their bonds are worthless what people are basically saying is that the whole system is collapsing and we have this tweet from balaji which is very shocking to the point where it's got a lot of people angry he says i will so. So James Medlock says, I will bet anyone $1 million the US does not enter hyperinflation. Balaji says, I will take that bet. Now, this guy is the former CTO of Coinbase, which is a crypto exchange. He says, you buy one Bitcoin. I will send $1 million in USD. This is 40 to 1 odds as one Bitcoin is worth $26,000.

It's currently like 28. The term is 90 days. All we need is a mutually agreed custodian who will still be there to settle this in the event of digital dollar devaluation. He is saying outright, he thinks that one Bitcoin will be worth $1 million in three months. And the argument is, he shows these graphs about Federal Reserve weekly remittances to Treasury. Look at this, go back to 2011. Even when things were bad,

they weren't this bad. Whoa. Look at unrealized gains and losses. Even when they were bad, it was never this bad. He's got another one showing all the same things. And we already saw that other way,

this other tweet that we talked about last week that said the bond market is predict, believes the system has already collapsed. If that's the case, what he's arguing is people think we live in an analog world. It's exactly how he says it. And that means analog takes a long time, but we're not in that world anymore. It's digital. Information transmission is instant, which means it's either one or it's zero. Everybody knows it happened or nobody knows it happened. Back in the day, if there was a market collapse, the only people who knew were the people at the market. They're in the stock exchange going, what's happening?

Then they send pony riders out with letters to inform the investors who then panic. There's, I can't remember what show I was watching or a movie or something where a guy goes to withdraw money in California, but the bank has shut down. And so he has to race the bank messengers to a northern bank to beat the message. The idea is the company's freezing withdrawals because they're going out of business or something like that's happening. Bank's collapsing. So the bank, he goes and says, sorry, sir, you can't have your money because we're shutting down.

He then has to get to a northern branch, which is like three hours ride before the messenger gets there. Because if he gets there first, he'll withdraw his money. Then the messenger comes and shuts it down. That's how it used to. It's crazy. Today, before you even know, they've already made a phone call. So what's going to happen when people finally realize the banks are bust, it's going to be near instantaneous that the dollar breaks.

That's his bet. A lot of people are calling him crazy because for Bitcoin to reach $1 million in three months, I told him I'll take his bet my worst here's what i'll do i said i'll buy two bitcoin fifty six thousand dollars it's 50 what is it it's at 27 29 28 right now 28 roughly so 56 000 and my worst case scenario is when when i lose one of those bitcoin i'll get a million dollars for my 56,000. I'm not going to cry about it. Right. So that's why I'm like, I can't believe those odds. Wait, is, is he saying, I, he's saying I will send, he will send $1 million. He made a bet with this guy. So I hit him up. We're going to, we're going to try and do some kind of, we might, I might do a show with him

for the culture war. We'll figure it out. But he is saying that he is going to put up $1 million cash for one Bitcoin. That's the wager. Because he's betting the buying power of the dollar becomes trash and the Bitcoin becomes worth a million bucks. I think he's attempting to instill confidence when you talk about economics. Confidence is the backbone of the economic system. If people don't believe in the currency, they won't use it and it loses value. So he's attempting to create value for Bitcoin, but I think it sounds freaking insane. He's asking for a 10, 40 times increase in the value of Bitcoin in the next 90 days. 40 times increase. So a lot

of people are saying he's trying to create a self-fulfilling prophecy. By making this bet, he's gotten a ton of attention for it. What's the traffic on the tweet? I'm curious. 11.5 million views. There of attention for it. What's the traffic on the tweet? I'm curious. 11.5 million views. There's traffic on it. Yeah. And there's a bunch of news stories have been written about it because he said he told me he's doing it. He is going to put up the million dollars in cash.

The dude's probably worth several hundred million or whatever. He's an early Bitcoin investor, so he's probably very loaded and can easily afford to do the million dollars. But this guy needs only to bet 26 000 for a chance to win 1 million is that a bet worth taking it does he lose the bitcoin to the guy if it doesn't yes appreciate that's that's the point the don't gamble money you don't have no no no no no no no he doesn't lose it oh well then the worst case scenario is you still have your bitcoin in 90 days no no no no no no listen no. No, no, no. Listen, listen.

Balaji wagers one million in cash and this guy, James Medlock, wagers one Bitcoin. And then the winner takes both? Yes. I see.

Right, right. Yeah, don't bet money you don't have. You don't take both. You just don't lose what you have. You know what I mean? So if the guy

buys a Bitcoin and it stays at $30,000 in 90 days, he gets a million bucks. Okay. So what's the downside? Is he going to take this? Is he doing this deal with more than one person or is this just like a publicity scheme? You know, here's the thing.

He said he was going to do it with two people. He said, I will do it with Medlock and one other person. Sufficient to prove the point. So I reached out to him and said, bro, I'll do it. And I don't even disagree with you about Bitcoin and the banks. I just disagree on the 90 days thing. Did he respond to you? He said he's only going to do this one guy, but he'll come on and we'll talk about it,

which I think would be really great. However, I don't think he's in the US. So we've got to, I will try and figure something out. Maybe we can do something for the Culture War podcast where, you know, or I'll just do a short segment for Timcast News because I think talking about this is important. So he's making this bet with one person. Am I just? Yeah, I'm just making this clear.

One person. OK, one person. And that person's already been selected. It's the guy who said we're not going to enter hyperinflation. OK, OK. I don't care about the Bitcoin thing. Look, if you don't care about Bitcoin, ignore this.

It's fine. But what you should care about is the data he provides on the banking system collapse. So, of course, his whole perspective is Bitcoin is better. But what he's showing

in terms of his sources is the unrealized losses and massive collapse of treasuries, bonds, and the banking system. Yeah, this is the unrealized losses and massive collapse of treasuries bonds and the banking system yeah this is the collapse you wonder if things are going to collapse we are in the collapse right now that is why banks are buying other banks that is a sign of the collapse that's the bailouts this is what people don't realize either ubs buying credit suites is the bailout yeah this is what's going to happen here Here's my prediction. You got First Republic Bank is

crumbling. The shares dropped again, like 35 bounced to minus eight. It was like minus 35, then minus 18. Despite the fact they're going to do a $30 billion infusion, despite the fact that the Fed was going to put in what I think like two trillion or something, what's going to happen is a bank will buy the failing bank and they'll say, see, it got bought out. Then the Fed will issue their easing or loans to the bank who made the purchase as a way of doing a workaround bailout. Instead of doing a direct government bailout or a direct Fed bailout, a private bank will make the purchase and they'll say, no, there's no banks collapsing. They were just mismanaged. And this powerful private bank bought them up. There's nothing actually here making it stronger.

And then that private bank behind the scenes says, okay, Fed, pony up. And the Fed will be like printing the money as we speak. And they give them a bigger loan because their new valuation with the new acquisition of the new bank

makes their company worth more money. This is, the UBS is actually a result of a merger. That's why they went from Union Bank of Switzerland in 1998. They bought Swiss Bank Corporation, became UBS.

I think this global bank conglomeration thing is massively dangerous because it gives a small group of people the ability to turn off your money. So let's, yes. Yeah. Let's play a game real quick. One Bitcoin right now is at $28,000, you said? Yeah. And it is unfathomable to us that it could reach one million dollars in 90 days i mean maybe a hundred thousand because it was at 60 something its peak last time but what

if i were to say this what if i were to say not that bitcoin is going to go from 26 000 to 1 million dollars in 90 days what if i was to say the second and third largest banking collapse in u.. history would happen within two days of each other? Would you believe that? You'd say, what, in two days? The second and third biggest banking collapse. Imagine if he came out before Silicon Valley Bank collapsed, when Silvergate first broke,

and he said, I will bet you $1 million in cash. You put up $26,000. I put up $1 million. If I'm right, I get $26,000. If you're right, you get $1 million in cash. You put up $26,000. I put up $1 million. If I'm right, I get $26,000. If you're right, you get $1 million. In two days, the second and third largest banking collapses in history will happen. Who would not take that bet? They'd be like, you think hit two?

Two Black Swan events, two historical moments are going to happen in two days. I'll do that bet. I'm going to win a million bucks. And then you'd lose 20 grand. You'd lose 25 grand. I think it's more likely that Wells Fargo collapses on Friday than it is that Bitcoin is a million dollars in 90 days. I think it's more likely we're going to see the biggest bank in the world collapse than

Bitcoin go to. Because they're going to artificially control the value of Bitcoin. They're going to jack it up. Then there there's gonna be a bunch of people will buy then all the top dollars will sell off then it'll drop again and the whole time they'll be getting ready to switch out your u.s dollars for u.s central bank coins so you're not gonna have to worry about dollars and then they're gonna make bitcoin look like a bad guy and they make the usdc look awesome the digital currency is like they maybe even if it did hit a million dollars it would be there for like a week and then it would fall to 300 yeah that's that's the cycle they'll jack it up to 60 again and then all these people will buy and they're like i missed the boat it

would be 80 and then the huge sell-off i mean i that's what they've been doing with it i don't know the scary thing is if bitcoin starts rising to a million rapidly then a bunch of people buy in and then it drops to 40. And then everyone's dead broke. And they say, see, this is the problem of crypto. You need a stable cryptocurrency that we can moderate, create a depression, bring in a new banking system, Federal Reserve's digital crypto asset management fund. And then they say, for all those who saw tremendous losses due to bitcoin we will be issuing u.s digital coin fed coin so that you can you know have some money back as a major

bailout to the working class people every liberal will be like the government should bail these people out bitcoin was a scam the whole time and we've all been saying it and this is what the what bales are for are you opposed to the people being bailed out that could be the whole plan yeah i've been kind of like uh accepting this digital currency this usbc i find myself kind of feeling defeated and like oh what they're going to do this is going to happen but like vivek ramaswamy's super against it like no we are not having a digital we're not going into the esg you mentioned just a few moments like, turning off people's ability to grab their money or use their money when it came to, like, banks merging. That would be way worse.

Dude, if two guys in West Virginia were trying to buy hamburgers and then some banker in Switzerland was like, no, sorry, dude, that's why we fought a revolution. You don't get to control my money. That's my job. That's my Congress. That's why we have a Congress. Yeah. I don't see a way that you know if if if they if the government gets involved in that i don't i don't i don't see a way that like that doesn't go south incredibly quickly just like in california when they were turning off thermostats or was it california or both uh oh it might have been it might have been colorado but they were turning off the thermost, right? That was in Colorado, yeah. Like that, I reject.

I don't like electric cars for that reason because they're talking about turning off cars and making them drive back to the dealership or whatever if you're being repoed. Not having your autonomy is disturbing. And that world with digital currency, although I like it, if the government isn't in control of it,

I reject that. It would imply you have to have a secondary currency. Well, although I like it, if the government isn't in control of it, I reject that. It would like imply you have to have a secondary currency. You would have to. You cannot rely on digital bankers. Which is what crypto

should be now before it's regulated by the government. That should be your... It is, but cash is good because you can't track it or it supposedly is untrackable

and it's just between you and the receiving party. Everything's trackable now. Yeah, like if a dude sells his cow to somebody for some cheese, why is anyone in the world involved in that is so weird. I understand maybe local taxes maybe because you were cleaning up the roads. You want to make sure that it's not raining poop on the cow.

So like we've got fire department making sure your barn doesn't burn down. Just let me buy a cow in peace without any government. You know, I just want to be, I'm, I'm, I'm quickly becoming off the grid as fast as possible and as much as possible. We're not going that direction anytime soon. We're going further and further into more taxes, more government hands in your business, every single- Their hands in your pockets always and forever.

Every transaction possible. And do you know about the line, the city in Saudi Arabia? I saw it. I don't know much about it, but I did see it. Incredibly creepy. It sounds- Dystopian. Fake, but apparently they're

actually going to build it yeah i think they got uh it's a 15 minute city it's one of these things where they put all the humans in one little box that's attractive to a lot of people today a lot of people want to live that way so gross a border wall i think it was uh god someone was calling it a border wall it was a border wall but you can live in these are the people that get to fight when the border gets attacked because they're the one that live in The border wall just cannon fodder up front. Yeah human shields your human shield your 15 Oh, so haven't there been studies where it's like they compared to cities with like rats and everybody's really close And there's a lot more illnesses and all that so yeah Won't they see outbreaks like that in an area such as that or would that yes look at crucial?

Look at crucial. I mean all that stuff. I feel like they tried the same thing as the line, but with rats and it's worked out awfully. You have to be massively vaccinated in your 15 minute city as well. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Every day probably. You see that video that's going around of Fauci walking around asking people

and they're yelling at him. Classic. It's remarkable. It's from 2021. It just came out. Can we play a bit of that? Yeah, we should. Was it Bowser? We'll get it up. and they're yelling at him classic it's remarkable it's from 2021 why did you it just came out what's can we play a bit of that yeah we should we'll get it up we'll get it up on the members only and then try and take some oh my gosh some voice chats from the discord server he goes up on culture

he goes to some dude's house and he's like trying to serve him the vaccine and the guy's like that like the flu and they're like well it's different than the flu isn't it weird when you try to pay someone to take it yeah actually that is kind of weird meryl bowser agrees with the guy yeah it's great yeah ian that that response from that guy i knew i knew that was going to be the response as soon as i saw the guy i was like okay i've talked to i talked to like enough like black americans on the street to where like they are so conservative and up front and will give you the facts or get like just say it the way it is every single time i knew exactly what we were going to get and uh it's it's a shock that they're not like overwhelmingly conservative because they they they tell you how it is and he responded exactly how like any person on the street if i were to go

talk to somebody about that any any black male that i would talk to on the street they'd say the same thing be super straightforward about it super based response and you're like shocked that they still the you know the black community in the united states overwhelmingly votes democrat it doesn't make it well i guess it kind of makes sense because they tend to you know jump on the on the on the race topics and topics and everything like that but uh it was there's an awesome video far and wide their values are lean conservative well that's what i'm saying they're incredibly conservative too like i was looking at carter he was fairly conservative people looked at him and they're like they don't know if he's conservative or liberal back in the day because he had conservative values it's a conservative

community for sure 100 and i knew i knew he was gonna respond like that too when i saw the video and it was awesome it's also okay to distrust the government fully and uh you know that guy knew immediately something was fishy if they're coming around i mean that was probably around the same time that the mayor of New York city was saying, I'll give you a hamburger. Taking this vaccine. I think they're,

I think they're paying for it. They were giving you rollercoaster rides, hamburgers, fries, paying you for it. Cruise ships. I don't know. He's like,

if you guys are paying me to take this, this is all, this is as many red flags as I need. While you were talking, you said that something about a black male. And then I thought about the word black male, which is like where you force someone to do a crime for you.

I'm like, what is this black and white crap? Like, black is the evil dark color in so many things. Because it's night and day. And then they tell, like, you're the black person. You're the white, a being of light. Like, you're the godly white person, and you are the dark black. Like, come on. You're getting too much into it, Brian.

Night and day. Night time spooky. Zoobie's into it. Light and dark, white and black had to do with daylight being warm and safe, and it made plants grow, and darkness was scary, and they were predators, and you were cold. And obviously, at night, dark skin blends in in darkness, and light skin reflects in moonlight. But that's not it.

Man, Zoobie just said nobody's black and white. What's that? It's not a skin color thing no yeah night and dark that's what night and day comes from like and when they would fight at night and they couldn't see their opponents is a big part of it why the racism never never heard that no bro you like i appreciate to be real about how how long ago are you talking about oh you know in like before electricity ancient were they fighting with knives and stuff in the woods, dark woods and stuff. But in the darkness, you can't see anybody. It's not like white people are glowing.

You might catch in the moonlight kind of like glimpses of shapes and stuff. What's happening is you are making an interesting point. However, I think that point would not be brought up if you read about it before saying it. The issue is simple psychology. It's not even about skin color. There are people who would wear certain clothes. Oh, yeah, yeah. Paint their faces black at night like Navy SEALs and stuff.

No, I'm saying in Europe, a thousand years ago, they would see somebody wearing a certain kind of clothes and go, it's an enemy. It didn't matter what the race was. It was just an outsider. Outsiders were dangerous. So racism is born of the same thing as if you're different from me, it's the easiest thing someone could notice right away to see that you are not from my city. You are not part of my, my, my group. And that was a threat.

If I don't know you, how am I supposed to know if it's safe to be around you? And so you get racism. We're learning a lot about why that's stupid because people are people. We have communications now. Like we have, we have cell technology that that's stupid because people are people so we have communications now like we have we have cell technology that that's really proximity is what's getting is what ends bigotry as it were anyway i digress i just want to go back to that money stuff real quick because you know someone pointed out who cares about bitcoin at a million what about doge yo what about doge you know i would love it if doge got up to 100 bucks i had do because i just

checked and i'm like oh i have doge i have doge i don't know where it is though i did i know nothing about crypto but i did get doge just somebody somebody mentioned and i looked and i'm like i have quite a bit of doge i would very much like when it was around like doge's sense and then it went to all like 70 cents or something that's probably when i sold when elon was on uh snl and it yeah what did it hit i'm trying to i thought it just hit me or 63 cents did one of you guys just say this and i just wasn't listening it did just hit like a peak right no doge is at about seven cents right doge doge had a had a renaissance a few years ago i made more off doge than i did as a professor uh at a college oh really that's. Yeah, it was great. Doge was dope. Yeah, I think. But it dropped.

The crazy thing is, it was at like a tenth of a cent. Oh, yeah. In 2020. Yeah, right. Wow. Could you imagine? Two hundredths of a cent.

There are Dogecoin millionaires. It was at, yeah, two tenths of a, four tenths of a cent. In 2020, it was at one two two tenths of a four tenths of a cent in 2020 it was at one tenth of a cent so imagine if you bought 10 000 dude in 2017 when it was two hundredths of a cent i was like this trash get this trash coin crap off my index i'm tired of looking at this junk i tired of these coins that go under and they're what year was that no 2017 dogecoin is probably going to be like something legitimate pure junk trash and then elon was like joked about it and now yeah but but the reason why is i think elon pointed this out dogecoin

is an inflationary coin that's meant to slowly increase the supply of Doge available intentionally because demand will go up. Whereas Bitcoin is deflationary. At a certain point, there will be no more Bitcoin and it will slowly cease to exist. Dogecoin can never fall out of circulation based on how it functions. So some people have speculated that Doge is cash and Bitcoin is gold. Gold isn't... I mean, I'm sure at some point

we'll figure out how to, I'm sure we can manufacture gold somehow as some kind of like gas. We can fuse platinum with hydrogen. I think that's how it's happening in the sun. There you go. And eventually we'll get there. The problem with Doge was when it was

up to whatever it was, 60 or 70 cents. Those apps, those trading apps were shutting down so people couldn't sell. And they were like, you can't, they were sending out messages like you can't do this or whatever. Wait, 60 or 70 cents. Those apps, those trading apps were shutting down. So people couldn't sell. And they were like, you can't, they were sending out messages like, you can't do this or whatever. It was like, wait, this is my money. Do you buy like Ethereum to get Doge?

Is that what it is or no? You can buy Doge in cash. It's separate, yeah. Is it, okay, separate? I don't know, just different cryptos. I think Ethereum was looked at as more of like a established. I am not giving anybody advice. I don't know what you should do.

I'm just saying I have Doge cause I bought it a long time ago. I actually, I bought it when it was only a few cents. Yeah, same. I think I bought it at a established. I am not giving anybody advice. I don't know what you should do. I'm just saying I have Doge because I bought it a long time ago. Yeah. I actually, I bought it when it was only a few cents. Yeah. Same. Let me,

I think I bought it at a nickel. What was the high? Was it, was it 2020 or 2021 that it was reaching its peak? 21. 21. Yeah.

It was like March 21. It was when the whole Wall Street thing was happening. Okay. There were, there were a lot of money. A lot of money. Oh, heck yeah.

Elon bought a ton for his kid. And it went from 63 cents to 30 cents, which is within like five, within a month. So within two days, it dropped 20 cents. I mean, it dropped 15 cents.

So it peaked and then everybody sold. It's all confidence. Some people are pointing out with this Balaji thing that when he says, you buy one Bitcoin and I'll send a million dollars,

if people are like, okay, let's say the guy holds 100 Bitcoin. He only needs Bitcoin to go up like a couple percentage points to cover the cost of the bet. If Bitcoin goes up 10%, he's going to make way more money than it cost by doing the stunt.

So it's like, who knows? Who knows? I think Doge is on the Binance smart chain. It's different than the Ethereum smart chain. So you use different tokens to buy it. But there are places like Coinbase that will do that for you where you can buy it with cash. See, the thing I don't like about the way Doge is built is the infinite supply. Tim was talking about earlier because it just allows for infinite inflation and devaluation of the currency.

Whereas you can always take a Doge coin and then sell one-tenth of it or one-hundredth of it or one-thousandth of it. So you don't need an infinite supply. You can always break it apart infinitely or at least so many times that you have a huge hundreds of trillions of amounts of pieces of token to sell. And then you just create a new token

when you're ready, when you run out. Then a new Bitcoin Plus that has another 17 million coins. And you know ahead of time where you're going to be at. So it never gets out of control because the dudes can just print another 100 trillion Doge coins and make them all worth half. Yeah.

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hey, I want to ask this. And then we can go through and be like, here's a guy who says he wants to do this. So we'll try. And it's the uncensored show. So, you know, who cares? We just grab a random person, be like, what up? Ask something, you know what I mean? But you'll also get access's the uncensored show, so who cares? We just grab a random person and be like, what up?

Ask something. You know what I mean? But you'll also get access to the uncensored members-only show, which will be live at about 1010. So definitely check that out. And now I'm going to try and scroll back up. That's such a good idea with the calls. I think that's a great idea that you guys came up with. That was a great idea.

Building community, dude. Yeah, that's a great idea. I love that. That's awesome. I'm going to start by reading a regular chat from El Acapulco. He says, Siren emoji, siren emoji, siren emoji, siren emoji. Physical gold

and silver are the only real store of value and the only escape from the system. Only if the system exists. Because if there is no system, who's going to buy your gold or silver? What will you do with it? So I often explain it to people very simply, and I've explained it to many of you who listen. If the apocalypse happens, let's say like a fungus takes over people's brains,

and then you're walking down the street, and you see a guy with a sandwich, and a guy with some water, and you have a bunch of gold coins, do you think either of them are going to do trade with you? Or a better way to put it is there's a guy with a jug of water and you walk up and say, I'm so thirsty, please, can I have some water? He says, no, what do you have to trade? You say, I have gold. He's going to go, and what do I do with gold? And then another guy's going to walk up and go, I have gold. He's going to go, and what do I do with gold? And then another guy's going to walk up and go, I have elk. And he's going to say, I will give you some water if you give me some elk. And then they will trade, eat, and be merry. And you'll be holding heavy metal that is draining your energy and causing you to require more food because it's so damn dense. And making you move slowly and become a target. It's not a valuable commodity. I mean,

it's valuable to the point where they would take it from you and keep it for later to sell it. No, only if the system exists. Yeah, but at an organized place. You're not going to sell it on the street. If there is no civilization, your gold and silver are worth nothing. It's for superconductors.

You would use it for making rings and things out of. There are values to touching certain metals. They have antibiotic properties. Silver does. Any sort of recovery with a civilization, though, metals like they have antibiotic properties, silver does. Any sort of recovery with a civilization though, they would be looking for some form of currency and that's where it would actually help for sure. I mean, unless they go somewhere else and there's value in something else.

But when it comes to like all out destruction, no civilization at all, yeah, probably not gonna bring it. You'd rather have a rifle with you. But any sort of recovery process or on the decline, I would imagine gold and silver would actually be quite useful. It's funny because the second chapter of the book is the scene where the Confederates are burning down their own capital and scrambling because they have the money.

All they have left is their cabinet and their money. And the city's on fire. So they think they're going to use the money elsewhere. Maybe they burned their own city down, though. They burned their own city down because they didn't want the union to get it. I thought that was contested. No, I'm pretty sure if you read a lot of the diaries from people back then, like even from William Harwar Parker

who was a guy who burnt down his own ship, a Confederate. Oh, wow. And then went and helped take the gold to Georgia. Yo, what was that ironclad they had? What was that called? I don't know. The Confederate ironclad that made them... Oh, the first one. Basically. It was the USS Indomitable, I believe. Was that what it was? I think it was the Union and there was another one from the Confederates. I don't remember what it was, but that was the first one basically the uss indomitable i believe was that what it was i think it was the union and there was another one from the confederates i don't remember what it was

but that was the first like armed ship battle in history because they both made ironclads roughly the same oh yeah no this one this one i think it was called the patrick henry and they stole it from the union and then they burnt it down it was an old virginia and there was another one i watched this documentary about it it was it was epic yeah but it was funny to see i think not so funny but thinking that their civilization is collapsing their literal capital has been burnt down right like where do we do with this money they didn't have any they kind of aimlessly traveled south with the money the gold and the mexican dollars and uh they're like jewels you know and they buried it well a lot of it disappeared people i think people pilfered it along the way desperate soldiers they see their

the death of their country the confederacy, and they put it in their pockets and bounce. All right. We're going to read your super chats. So we'll jump to it. We've got this one from Adrian Curry. She says, look at me. I'm important. Well, well, all right.

Okay. Good work. Thank you, Adrian. Good work. All right. Emma Sang says, imagine if the Democrats just ignored Trump. Not easy. Sure. But wouldn't that

send a stronger message probably not as profitable though you are correct this is the issue the media is obsessed with him because he gets them clicks because the cult is obsessed with him but the most powerful move they could do if they wanted to win is just say nothing about him and never talk about him yeah they can't help themselves with that i I mean, that's why, you know, we were talking about this benefiting Trump largely. There's many ways that it benefits Trump. And even if that's the consequence, they don't care. They want to see him behind bars. And that's all that matters.

We have the super chat from Beef, who says that they have severe stomach pain and they also have IBS. I'm sorry to hear it, Beef. I hope you get better yeah feel better consult your doctor about what's right for you to treat your ibs coldy locks production says if they arrest trump i have a feeling lines between parties will be solidified and things will collapse much faster this is how you break the country apart agreed yeah seriously and and you got to consider that too we're looking at the price of bitcoin in that

whole conversation based on traditional market factors and we need to consider that, too. We're looking at the price of Bitcoin in that whole conversation based on traditional market factors. And we need to consider the second and large, large, the second and third largest bank failures happened back to back within two days. And they're going to arrest for the first time, they're threatening to a former president. Those are things that can destabilize a system. And when Balaji is like, Bitcoin is going to go up, here's the bank stuff. I'm also like, you know what else causes hyperinflation? Political uncertainty. So if a president, if the front runner for the presidential election in 24 gets arrested, and then there's an attempted indictment and everyone's like, I don't know what's going to happen.

People are going to probably flee the dollar because the U.S. government is what backs the dollar. And if there's no U.S government then who's back and what yeah that's that biden that biden veto concerns me because congress was trying to be like hey stop investing the u.s dollar in woke crap that's not returning an investment put it into in profitable stuff and biden's like nope you're talking about the veto he said no i don't think i will yeah no i don't no i don't think I will. Oh, God. That's, I mean, loss of confidence in leadership and the ability of the dollar if he's really going to put it into, like, stopping oil from burning. My God. That one gamer says a good candidate for the Culture War podcast would be Michael Jones of Inspiring Philosophy. Best Christian channel on YouTube, hands down, could be a good debate with him and Ian.

That'd be cool. Yeah, we should do it. A religion culture war podcast. Yeah, so the culture war podcast Fridays 1pm at youtube.com slash timcast is we just started. I think we've done what? Four? Four episodes. Wow, look at that.

I gotta check that out. I haven't watched it yet. But I saw you guys did that. It's awesome. Yeah, it's less news driven and more culture conversations. Yeah. And so we're probably going to have musicians. I think we actually do have a couple of musicians ready to come on. And what we did, we had Pete Perotta already.

And that's just talking about issues. We're not going to be like looking at articles like we do on this show or anything like that. We were talking about the Antichrist the other night. Oh, man. The coming of the second coming of Christ. And people believe Donald Trump is the Antichrist. I think it's like an energy. Like many people will embody the antichrist i think it's like an energy like

many people will embody the antichrist many people will embody the christ and it'll kind of be like within us the battle will be like what am i am i the anti like truly look at yourself and your behavior and kind of gotta decide that for yourself yep that's deep that's that's a heavy conversation you're saying people think trump is the antichrist i haven't seen anyone talking about people were saying obama oh yeah yeah you got to pay attention to more liberals man i i um there's those who also believe in christ i guess no no no just like using the word antichrist what you got to understand is that liberals will come out and be like why are you doing the acts the bible says you must do this and then you're like you're not even a christian what are you saying and they're like that doesn't

matter so when they come out and they're like good faith argument ever right there sure when they come out and they're like donald trump is the antichrist look look at the prophecy you're like you don't even believe that stuff like it doesn't matter as long as it benefits their agenda they will claim to believe whatever they have to believe yeah they get the political points they'll jump to that argument i love the religious arguments they make where it's like dude you're not even religious how is that an argument you're making to somebody else when they know you don't believe it anyway? I love the free speech arguments when they're like, this is unconstitutional. They'll try to grandstand and be this constitutional authority within an argument or something like that.

It's like, dude, you guys, the president, like we mentioned previously, the president launched a uh what's it called um uh misinformation governance board yeah a ministry of truth yeah and it's like i i don't know why you're lecturing me about the first amendment here what all right let's read some more uh james eaton says let's say he is arrested how would that work does a secret service go to jail with him what about his food how can he be protected in public jail yep could you imagine if trump i i think a strong possibility trump will surrender trump wants that photo of being arrested the same as the left wants it oh yeah here's the problem yeah when the left gets the victory they're done when the right sees the prosecution the prosecution they're enraged that's why it's a stupid move and these people are like if if the

right really thought arresting trump would help them they'd be cheering for it if the left is motivated by stopping trump and they see a perp walk how many liberals are going to be like we did it guys pack it in time to go home trump's been arrested how many trump supporters are going to say to the streets rap so certainly if trump gets indicted i imagine he'll be on the first plane and be like oh woe is me put his hands behind his back and be like whatever you say mr officer yep but you need to protest something i'm not going to do what what if they crap that'll come out of his mouth. What if he does? They bring him to holding, refuse to release him.

And then New York State just says, we don't care. He's not getting out. Well, they were saying they were actually bringing up no bail. I mean, nobody's serious, but Democrats have been talking. I think MSNBC, they were talking about it. Maybe it was CNN. And they were saying no bail because of his call to protest. Because what he meant by protest wasn't protest.

It was violence. That's what they were saying. And a New York judge who's going to be a far leftist cult member is going to say, you have already incited insurrection. You are likely to cause more violence. Therefore, you are being remanded to the custody of New York State pending a trial to be said at a later date or something like that meanwhile i believe our vice president or people

in her campaign were donating money to bail out people during the riots who were literally burning down places she tweeted a link for a bail fund that was raising money for violent rioters i believe they found some bodies in those those uh burnt down bodies many money months or three months later if trump had pulled two dudes around the back of the house and shot him in the head, I'd be all about this indictment.

But he, it's some dumb finance thing. He banged some porn star at a party or something like that and they're like, lock him up. And I'm like,

huh? Allegedly. Yo, there was this tweet where someone was like, if he committed the crime, he should go to jail and it is,

it is a, it is violation of the rule of law if they don't charge him. And I was like, oh, well, he must be talking about Obama killing that 16 year old American citizen. Oh, no, he was talking about Trump bribing a porn star. Right. It's not like this obvious thing.

It's this, oh, that's a stretch. And holy crap, you're going for a felony, too. This is insane. And it's not just like it's not like this is the first person that's looked at this. Mueller checked it out. Yeah. Southern District of New York checked it out. And now we have, you know, it's not like this is the first person that's looked at this. Mueller checked it out. Yeah. Southern District of New York checked it out. And now we have, you know, what's his face?

The DA. You know, it's their third or fourth attempt to get something from this. We got Brendan McGrath. Music says, shout out to Shane for his great interview on the Brett Easton Ellis podcast. My two favorite podcasts getting together for a fascinating discussion. Sweet. Thank you so much for listening to that. That was an honor to be with Brett, one of my favorite, favorite authors of all time.

Yeah, that's cool stuff. All right. Glad look says last week, Friday, selective service posters were placed all around the school. I work at reminding boys assigned male at birth ages 18 to 25 to register for the draft because of rising tensions with Russia and China. Scary. What?

Can you send a picture of that? Do you have a picture of that? I would like to see that. Assigned male at birth? Yeah, good luck drafting anybody that way. Assigned male. Steve Smith said, why does nobody bring up the fact that Bill Clinton screwed his secretary in the White House? No, she was an intern.

Yeah, not a secretary. Bill Clinton ended up paying, what is it, $850,000 for something to kind of go away as well? Oh, yeah. Was that when he was a Brad Rook or something? Yeah, he had a situation that was weird. I forgot all the details. He had like four. A lot of those presidents do.

Yeah, Bill was sleeping around. Fast and loose. Yeah do. Yeah. Bill was, he was sleeping around. Fast and loose. Yeah. He'd been hanging around, you know? All right. Villainous Black Dragon Entertainment says, Tim,

you were thinking of Bane letting the criminals out from Dark Knight. Also, do you think dopamine addiction is connected to virtue signaling and why people feel pain when not woke enough? Yes.

Absolutely. But I wasn't just thinking about Bane. The Joker releasing criminals from Arkham, I thought that was an old comic book arc. It was a graphic novel of that, I think. Yeah. I can't remember the name. I think that's actually a really common happening in the DC universe. Yeah, it happens occasionally.

Yeah. We'll let out Arkham because it's a fun movie. Well, no, like the Joker breaks them all out. He releases all the criminals to wreak havoc on the city. Yep. Yeah. All right. Where are we at?

Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Shane, dude, I really enjoyed your The State of Modern Man opinion piece. It read like a poem. The modern soy boy cult member is a weak AF bitch. Thank you. That's one of my favorite pieces. Is that what you wrote about? No, I didn't say he's a bitch, but I did say his skull is a glory hole. And it's a great article about how I feel a lot of people are these days in terms of being weak men and not defending things that I believe are true and right and worth defending. Yep.

And shout out to Chris Carr and the editors there for putting it up. Right on. All right, let's get some more super jets. Okay, what is this? The great treasurer says Trump is going to Epstein himself. Civil War, Tim Drink. No. I think Trump's going to write a rap record in jail.

A rap record? Yeah, like Shy when he was in jail. He'll call a producer and he'll be over the phone. It's going to be amazing. Watch him just come out with new tattoos. Yes. A teardrop. How many rappers love him, too? Mine hits. Dude, that'll be over the phone it's gonna be amazing watch him just come out with like new tattoos yes yeah a teardrop so many rappers love him too mine hits dude that'll be his record i mean i will say that his part he did get wayne he got oh that's true black so maybe there's like a sweet uh collab coming culturally that was actually a pretty epic move right there those were great

there was a lot of more important ones i would have preferred to see totally great but shout out to little wayne yeah dan gingrich says the democrats are releasing criminals in order to sow chaos blame their opposition claim they have the solution to the problem they caused and then push for more power agreed the intelligent ones yeah all right 1776 his life says speaking about gun rights tonight might have been violated by governor pritzker in illinois i'm caught in a hard place my family owns a four-generation farm that i would love to keep working however i know i will never get my rights back is there a right move man i don't know i'm sorry to hear that yeah what happened yeah i'd be curious to know yeah

yeah that's that's unfortunate brewmaster monk says gabbert paul for us all 2024 that's an interesting ticket slain opes is antifa soros and schwab proved they own our democracy what do you think will happen tomorrow new york city has already spent more money than they can find trump one of the fears we have is that they're going to pull some 4 a.m. maneuver. It's going to be way early hours of the morning when everyone's asleep. That way, a bunch of developments can happen before anybody knows. And then you wake up to a bunch of news instead of watching it happen in real time. Makes it harder for people to react. Really quick to address them owning our democracy. We allow them them to by not controlling the media or any of these

powerful institutions that completely allow if roles were reversed and there was these powerful like you know Batman evil villain characters such as Soros and we dominated the media a politician wouldn't be able to accept a dollar from a guy like that so that we really need to get involved in these

institutions to start making an actual difference so they can't just get away with this well the problem is people like soros then buy the media yeah so that they can control that narrative and make sure it doesn't happen we have billionaires too they need to we need we need to get to work i mean i'm not a billionaire but it's not about the money i complain about this all the time it used to buy you access money that's what it was for but it's really about the access itself internet video you have the power to change the world now with media but i was telling my mom yesterday and she's like, how do you even plan to do any of this? I was like, internet media.

Yeah. The internet video has changed the entire media scale. The entire surface of the game is gone. There's multiple directions we can go in. We, as in like liberty loving Americans can go in. And I think one direction certainly is that route of going this, you know, video, social media. One, a kid, a 15 year old can go

become a multimillionaire media mogul in like three years. Yep. By the time they're, it's amazing. Just one guy owns everything. And they have a serious cultural influence as well. I mean, it's amazing. Yeah. You can say, do this, 10, 10 000 people do it like that is so powerful and it's massively dangerous that's terrifying that's why we got to keep each other humble but it's the true power of the nature of the cult you know of personality that it's been created this is a very important

one from drift motive who says please hit like everyone that is a very good point you should hit the like button if you have not already that is a very good point you should hit the like button if you have not already that is absolutely correct that's right decide thought says idea for discord server add channel cultural endeavors so we can share our cultural endeavors with members addendum separate channel for meme culture to prevent overloading the channel with memes so we are starting slow i think there's only what like three channels three channels because we have like a moderator and we don't want to get the thing shut down before anyone's a chance to do anything substantive so i think we're planning on doing is creating a bunch of different rooms

you know for different kinds of creative work and then the elite club is where ideally if you want to sign up for that, that's where I'll be hanging out. Maybe, I don't know if Ian wants to, I think Phil said he'll even like play music and stuff. And other Tim Kasker members will be in the elite club. And you know, the goal is just to create like, look, it's a relatively cheap social club endeavor because it's not necessarily just about making money, though we do as a business need to make money to expand. But like the big liberal social clubs, like in New York City, for instance, they're about $4,000 per month. It's crazy.

It's crazy. Yeah. But hopefully we get this building set up, which is currently underway, and we're going to have like a $100 a month West Virginia. You know, not to be disrespectful, but a lower income scale because we're not about the elite New York liberal. Freedom loving though. You're right. That's it. I think it's awesome.

A lot of those 4,000 a month would get you access to a building with like materials, free food, free drinks. They do. You got, but then, so now we've got internet video, so it's like cheaper to connect, but it's also, it doesn't cost as much to join. I mean, those clubs are awesome. Like if you're rich and you can afford it, you show up. It's really nice. All the rich people are hanging out talking to each other. This is how they make money. They're friends. They network. There's not

that many of them. They spend 50 grand a year to hang out at this club with free drinks, free food. And then they sit at a bar and they, they, they, they know each other and they'll be like, oh yeah, you work in construction, right? I got this idea. Here's what I want to do. I think I'll make a bunch. Oh, that's a good good idea i'll connect you with this guy and they just that networking is so so important so we got to create something like that you know that's what we're trying to do yeah but you got to fund it so the idea is our space in west virginia is going to have like on the third floor food and drinks but probably more like potato chips dip you know sodas and beer with some gaming tables.

And it will be only $100 per month, not $4,000, you know. But the money is to pay for someone who's going to be working there. And honestly, we've talked about it. $100 is a great price. But it's probably a loss if we did it that way. But I'm like, well, we can't charge more than that because, like, we're starting from the bottom. We're not starting from the top.

So if we, you know, if we've got to have someone working there 24 7 or you know and we've got to have food and drinks stocked hundreds probably not it's probably too low to do it but i'm willing to subsidize it low price yeah but we're starting with this discord server room and then maybe we can make something of it yeah i think we got a handful of people in there already so i really do appreciate it people chilling in the elite chat room. Yeah, man. Are you in the discord? We got it pulled up right here, actually. So hopefully in the members only portion of the show.

That's awesome. Some people are mentioning they're having issues. If you're having issue with the discord, just email members at timcast.com. And for the people who are like, damn, 100 bucks. Like I said, the actual liberal elite clubs are like four or $6,000 a month. And right now it's just the discord room, but we have the building. It has three floors. It exists.

It's in West Virginia. We have to do the construction. What is this? Oh, I was just looking at the chat. Oh, you're giving this weird URL live? No, I was thinking about the construction. The place is still raw. I've only seen video of it at the moment.

Yeah, and we're trying to figure out Can we just open it anyway And then start off the elite club with a big empty building And let people turn it into what they Think might work or something Yeah you mentioned that a few weeks ago What was the status on that Permits And unless I'm directly involved

And mercilessly beating the people Who are doing it nothing gets done Whips and chains Whips are too far maybe like a truncheon or something you know retractable baton but this is what happens you know i'll say hey can we just have no go you got it and then they stopped working on it and i'm just like okay and then people are complaining like hey how come it's not getting done we're made to be cracked oh that was brutal all right yeah I don't like saying it.

I don't like hearing it. I'm a chaos page. Holy moly. All right. What do we got? Damien Master says, yo, if Florida doesn't turn over Trump, New York will be forced to Biden to send feds to get him. Interesting.

Civil war? But I don't know if DeSantis has the waltz to actually defy something like that. I mean, what are they going to do if Trump's like, I'm not going. But I think Trump will surrender. They said he would and it's the greatest campaign opportunity for him. They don't understand.

It takes the wind out of their sails and it puts the wind in the sails of the Trump supporters. Yep. Big time. All right. Jazz says, Tim, fun fact, I'm a direct descendant of the confederate president jefferson davis wow i bet he has a lot of descendants at this point right probably yeah there's one thing i found out while writing this book maybe other people know it who know the civil war better than me but he had an adopted black child his wife saw a child a black child being beaten in

the street and she adopted him oh I felt bad for him he was with them uh supposedly until the very end until the union actually captured Davis did they let him go did they pardon him and everything no no oh Davis he yeah he was let go yeah he was in jail for a little bit I think he started writing his book in there uh and then I believe he was just like, oh, they couldn't really get him. They pardoned him? Was it a pardon? I don't know what they were calling it then, but they were trying to get him for, I forget the words,

but they didn't do it. The Meep Kid says Robert E. Lee was against slavery but fought for the self. In one of the battles, Ulysses S. Grant tried to recruit him. Wow. He's a fascinating guy, Robert E. Lee. I had a friend growing up, my best friend growing up, loved him. And I was always like, but he fought for the South. Isn't that evil? And he'd be like, no, no, no.

He fought for his homeland. Yeah. That's what made him so great. Well, that's a lot of it was. It wasn't for a lot of people in the South. It was you were fighting because the Union was coming and telling you you obey. You know? Right.

So only, I think, 5% of the country actually owned slaves. Yeah. because the union was coming and telling you you obey you know right and they so only i think five percent of the country actually owned slaves yeah and it's like you know and it was bad and they were like wealthier people who wanted cheap labor yeah one of the things grant said after the war too is that you don't want we don't want to treat these as the others they're our fellow countrymen again the country's united again we're not going to hold them responsible or put them to trial or anything like that. That's one of the reasons I think that Davis was... He wasn't generally pardoned by the president, but he

wasn't taken up. They didn't get him in trouble, basically. I am excited, though, for when the West Coast tries to secede, Trump sends in the troops, and then California, Washington, and Oregon enter a period of reconstruction. Because they desperately need it. We'll get that high-speed rail that they've been talking about for so long.

You can call it that, but reconstruction. But basically what it means is you're going to get rid of the corrupt government. We're going to fix the corrupt governments. Reconstruction was a failure in the South, too, though. Right. I'm joking. But they do need it in a lot of the cities in this country i'm saying those those those places need heavy reform but you know i just i look forward to media matters writing tim calls for violent occupation

of west coast oh yeah shout out to those people great articles written about friends over there too yeah they love me yeah yeah all right raymond g stanley jr says dang it in you ain't lying saying ish will happen three plus years back in 2020. And now today the circle connects. I'm rooting for not the fall, bud. Interesting. I did see the inflation. Are we on year three of IRL?

March 2020 is when that inflation crap. When I came into the room and I was like, dude, inflation is going to go nuts because they just printed a bunch of money. There was that COVID package. Yeah. And then it was like eight months, 10 months, 15 months later, you start to see it. Yeah.

And we bought all that crypto. We were both like, fuck, this shit is happening. And everything went up, up, up. Yeah, what the Biden administration is doing right now, they're comparing, they're saying like,

oh, we've cut spending. And they're just comparing their spending to the highest dollar amount in 2020. It's like, dude, come on. You're still like way above 2019. OTM Marketing Podcast says, if you click join discord in the embedded link

at the bottom of the page, that link works. Top link does not work. Interesting. All right, let's grab one more. Brian Taylor says, start coordinating the purchase of stock on the institution buying material positions in the institution stock and become activist.

I don't I think there may be typos there. Cleaning house with the board. Oh, I think he's saying buy stocks in these companies so that you can vote and then fix these companies. All right. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button? Subscribe to this channel and become a member at Timcast.com. Go to Timcast.com. Then click join us in the menu bar, sign up,

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Absolutely. Awesome. I am at Shane Cashman on Twitter and Instagram. I'm asking you to please go purchase this book. I've never been more proud of a book. It's huge. It's huge. The paperback is available right now at ghostofthecivilwar.com,

and the e-book will be available at midnight. Shout-out to Jessica Boone for doing this amazing cover. Yeah, I'm sure that cover is awesome. Shout-out to Chris Carr for being the editor. Shout-out to Tim for sending me to Washington, Georgia, where my life was turned upside down every time I went there. Oh, and shout-out to Clint Brantley, who's the family who brought me down there in the first place. But I love this book.

I'm very proud of it. And I hope you guys enjoy it. I'm happy to finally have it out. How many pages is it? It's 473 pages. Holy crap. Tell me that URL again where people buy that. It is ghostofthecivilwar.com.

Ghostofthecivilwar.com. Yeah. Ghost was bought up so we were like dang singular so we just yeah

but it's there the paperback is available right now ebook tonight I've been saying as I feel like this is the kind of stuff these stories

are exactly up Joe Rogan's alley yeah you know it'd be great to talk to him I mean this book it just

encompasses everything it's funny talking today about like the banks failing the money the country collapsing, the presidents not being trusted, violence. It's like a reflection of the Civil War, and we just keep going through this madness. Word. So it's a happy book is what I'm trying to say.

It's a white belt, but not oxycodone. Thank you. Thank you very much, Shane. You're welcome. Good Oh, okay, good. It's a white pill, but not oxycodone. Thank you. Thank you very much, Shane. You're welcome. Good to see you, James. And also, I wanted to make clarification. Dogecoin is based off of Litecoin, and it actually apparently has its own blockchain. I thought it was on the Binance blockchain.

It is when you go to MetaMask. But there you go. I'm Ian Crossland. I'm really looking forward to talking to you guys in the Discord on the after show. Let's see how this technology goes. And I am at Surtr.com. Please argue with me on Twitter. you guys in the discord on the after show let's see how this technology goes yeah and uh i am at sir.com please argue with me on twitter i had some music that uh dropped on friday it wasn't on the show kellen was doing the podcast um if you want to check that out it's on cool contest records

please if you like dance music go for it oh you know what else we have a song coming out on friday i'm supposed to promote it hell yeah yeah. Promotion. Bright Eyes. Yeah, maybe I should say that. Yeah, please do. Yeah, it's good. It's the first one we recorded, but we held it until it's coming out for... No, the second one we recorded

because you did Will the People first. Well, yeah. That was a while ago. That was without Carter, before Carter. This is the first one we did with Carter. Yeah. And we've been sitting on it for about a year. So I love it.

I think the song's great. I hope the audience likes it as much as I do. I really enjoy it. I like the harmonies. There's three of us. Was it me, you? Carter. And Carter singing on it.

And there's a clip I posted on my Instagram of just like a quick little snippet where you can pre-order. But we'll get the links and everything set up for tomorrow so it's easier for me to tell you where to get it. But otherwise, I'll just be at youtube.com slash I think TimCastSongs, I think the channel is now. It's Trash House Records. We'll figure it out. I don't know. It's going to get it. But otherwise, I'll just be at youtube.com slash, I think, TimCastSongs. I think the channel is now. It's Trash House Records.

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