Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #744 Trans Person Targets Christian School In Deadly Shooting Police CONFIRM w/Ezra Levant

Episode Date: March 28, 2023

Tim, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Ezra Levant to discuss the Nashville School Shooter targeting a Christian elementary school, social media algorithms causing humans to engage in cult like behavio...r, and a staffer of Rand Paul being brutally attacked in DC. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Man, today we got a major tragedy. There was a tragic incident. A Presbyterian private school church was targeted by an individual, and a lot of people lost their lives. Naturally, we're getting a lot of politics that you normally see in this. And when the incident was first reported, the identity of the perpetrator was obfuscated, leading many to believe there may be something political, politically damaging in the identity of the perpetrator. And we now know this individual had written a manifesto, was trans identified. And according to the police, the working theory is that did play a role in the targeting of the school.
Starting point is 00:00:46 The shooter was biologically female, transitioning to male, identifying with male pronouns. Again, writing of a manifesto. When asked, the police said this was a targeted attack on this Christian school and church. And so we'll get into all that. We'll go through the news and then uh just moments ago we got more breaking news that over the weekend a staffer for rand paul was brutally attacked um left with life-threatening injuries in dc so it certainly seems like things are getting crazy out there today and um you know my heart goes out to the families and the victims and all that.
Starting point is 00:01:26 And naturally, politically, this one's heating up a lot. There are some conversations happening around domestic terror in the United States, notably with Atlanta, with Antifa, with the far left attacks. And I believe in recent history, this may be the fourth tragic incident involving a trans-identified person, which, of course, is leading to very hot political topics. So we are going to get into all of that. But considering everything that's going on, before we get started, head over to publicsquare.com. They're sponsoring this episode, and they're absolutely fantastic. Public Square is an app where you can find businesses that care about American values and traditional values.
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Starting point is 00:03:50 did, we would shatter the billboard charts, hit number one, and make a powerful statement to all the woke people who want to see us banned like they banned us from band camp. A lot of things promote tonight, despite the fact that we got some really hard news. Joining us tonight to talk about all of this, smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, especially what's been going on up in communist Canada, is Ezra Levant. It's great to be here. Thanks. Canada is like a bad time machine from the future. I'm here to tell you what could be the case here in the United States if you don't change your course. I think we're five years further down the road than you. And, you know, you can lose your freedoms. Canada used to be just as free as America. Some would say even freer. I'm worried and I bring bad news
Starting point is 00:04:36 with me. So what do you do for those that don't know you? I run a website called rebelnews.com. Our motto is telling the other side of the story. I think we have a lot of similar spirit to you where we have journalists in Canada, a great journalist in Australia, Avi Amini, a couple of guys in the UK. Avi's great. You know, he's got a sense of humor, he's self-deprecating. Our focus is on the ground video citizen journalism. So for example, we covered the trucker convoy in Canada very closely. We were really one of the few dissident voices on the lockdowns and the vaccine mandates.
Starting point is 00:05:12 It was very strict in Canada. The province of Quebec, for example, had an actual curfew from 10 p.m. to 5 a.m. every night, whether you were vaxxed or not, sick or healthy, a curfew. The whole city was under house arrest. And every political party supported this it was unanimous there was no opposition all of our checks and balances
Starting point is 00:05:31 failed so that's a canadian warning we love america you're like our bigger brother and and you sort of ignore us most of the time which is the right approach it's not that interesting up there but there's been some bad stuff lately and lately and I know you're alert to these authoritarian... We're paying attention. Yeah. Yeah, it comes up. Especially with, you know, Trudeau.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Nobody likes that guy. Well, someone must because he got 33% in the vote last time and with 33%, he's been able to run like a majority government. It's bad news.
Starting point is 00:05:58 All right. Well, it should be fun. Thanks for hanging out and should be scary as well. We got Hannah Clare Brimelow hanging out. Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow. I'm a writer for timcast.com.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I'm also Canadian, so I'm glad you're here. Right on. I'm very excited to talk about this. We talked about the show, about 30 minutes of intensity getting prepped. Ezra, that was fantastic, man. Canada is, the king of Canada is Charles. I feel like this, it's like, it's true.
Starting point is 00:06:18 I was like the lackey of a monarch, but I don't know. We can go into this later. We'll get into it. We'll get into it. And we also have Serge. What's happening, dude? Yo, nothing much.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Ready to lose. I'm a big fan of Avi. I started watching him during the pandemic. So happy to see you. Yeah, shout out Avi. Yeah, shout out. Yeah, he's a one-man army down there who really has made a difference in Australia. They're pretty woke, too, but they were very open to having a contrarian voice.
Starting point is 00:06:40 He's done some great journalism. Yeah, absolutely. Well, let's jump into this story. We have this from the Post Millennial. Breaking. Transgender Nashville school shooter had detailed manifesto. Map of Christian school. Police confirm. Hale was killed after an encounter with officers on the second floor just four minutes into the shooting. So I'll give you a quick timeline of the news as it's breaking for us in the newsroom. And we were actually hanging out with Libby Emmons earlier, too. And we knew that the story had had had broken. And there was some speculation as to who the
Starting point is 00:07:10 shooter was who committed this tragedy. Let me give you the quick details on what happened. So you can understand. Police said during a Monday press conference that the person who killed six, including three children at the Covenant Christian School in Nashville, was a former student of the academy, Audrey Hale, who identified as transgender and had left a detailed manifesto with plans on how to conduct the attack at the school. Hale entered the building by shooting through a door on the side, police said. Once inside, Hale reportedly began firing at anyone in sight. Among the victims were three nine-year-old children, Evelyn Dikos, Haley Scruggs, and William Kinney, as well as custodian Mike Hill, substitute teacher Cynthia Peek, and school head Catherine Kuntz. Metropolitan police arrived
Starting point is 00:07:52 quickly and Hale was killed after an encounter with officers on the second floor just four minutes into the shooting. Officers found that Hale was equipped with at least two assault rifles and a handgun, and a search of the family home in Nashville revealed detail maps and a manifestoo of the attack first thing i want to say is i believe the post-millennial is incorrect so i'll make sure to call up libby and complain roberto wake rel cruz i do not believe they ever said this individual had any assault rifles um for those that think i'm being a bit pedantic there is a legal and legitimate difference between a standard rifle like an AR-15 and an assault rifle, which is typically a select fire rifle. I don't think this person was able to get their hands on a full auto machine, you know, a full auto rifle to go in and start. I think this
Starting point is 00:08:35 was a standard rifle. I think the distinction is important considering from this, we're getting a lot of calls for gun control. So we're hanging out earlier when the news breaks. We don't know exactly what's going on when rumors start circulating about Aubrey Hale as the perpetrator and images of a trans man and a profile with he, him pronouns. The media had been reporting this
Starting point is 00:09:00 as a female who did it, which caught many by surprise because people were shocked to hear that it was a woman who was doing this. Turns out it was a trans man. And we eventually did get confirmation at Carol, K-A-R-O-L, on Twitter. Airtight source broke the news. This, in fact, was the person. Andy Ngo then did some digging, corroborating. And yes, it is now officially confirmed that this individual is the person who did it. Now, according to the police, they were asked by press, did the identity of the individual play a role in the motivation?
Starting point is 00:09:30 And they said, there is a theory that is the case. They have a manifesto preparing, explaining for what they did and why they did it. So for now, it would seem that the individual who did it, this is what we have confirmed. The individual who perpetrated this attack is a biological female, 28-year-old Aubrey Hale, and a transgender man, the meaning female to male using he, him pronouns. And it is presumed for the time being, based on the existence of a manifesto, the police believe, they have a theory, that the transgender identity played a role in the attack. So I'm assuming from that, this has something to do with a trans person feeling like they're under attack or assault. We've seen numerous posters, which we'll get into in a bit,
Starting point is 00:10:16 about a trans day of vengeance, about calls to arms, posters online saying, get your weapons ready. And Benny Johnson posted three other mass shootings carried out by transgender individuals. So perhaps this is related to this call for vengeance and a call to arms. I don't know. I think it's more related to woke left ideology. But it's hard to know for sure until the police come out and we actually get to see what this manifesto is. If we do get to see it, I don't know. So I'm curious what you guys think. Candace Owens made an interesting point about 40 minutes ago on Twitter that even if this
Starting point is 00:10:56 manifesto comes out, we have to trust that it's real. Like it's the intelligence community putting out data. We don't know if it's real. They could put out a fake manifesto. There might not even be a manifesto. hate to be like question everything but do not fall for the bait every single time because you want bait make sure you have a clear head about it and part of this is like thank god it wasn't someone going to executing trans people like we've had cool we've kept cool heads about ourselves as americans for the most part what in this crazy
Starting point is 00:11:21 new time where people are taking all these experimental pharmaceuticals to take testosterone when they're nine and get their boobs cut off at 15. Like, thank God it wasn't somebody attacking transgender people. As horrific as it is, you don't stop your enemy when they're making a mistake. In the culture war, if these people are drugging themselves up and committing mass shootings, it's on them. Well, I think one of the things we have to be worried about, I'm not so sure. Here's what I think. We talked about a little bit before the show.
Starting point is 00:11:48 There's not one kind of trans person. There are gender dysphoric individuals, and they experience gender they end up getting put on antidepressants and, you know, a variety of other drugs. And so I think when you take someone who is depressed, doesn't understand why they are and rush to giving them antidepressants and hormones and other drugs, I think the issue is mental health. And then what ends up happening is because there is, I think, because of popular culture, in the massive social acceptance of transgender individuals, there's a conflation and overlap with those who are seeking social validation, and then becoming trans. We've talked about this with with Dylan Mulvaney. Dylan Mulvaney, in my opinion, is not trans is not gender dysphoric, but is seeking social validation and getting it. And so I think what we might be seeing with people like this is they're depressed. They don't know why they're depressed. They're told because of what's in popular culture. Maybe it's this,
Starting point is 00:12:54 maybe you're trans. And then they end up getting hormones, which, I mean, testosterone makes anybody more aggressive, even biological males. They get antidepressants. Now they've got a cocktail of drugs in their mind. They've already been suffering mental health issues. Then you give them a bunch of testosterone. You're going to end up with stories like this, and it's tragic. I'm not going to pretend to have the answers, man. You were wise to start off by saying, look, at first instance, all we know is that there was a tragedy, innocent lives lost. That's what we know know but at a certain point there are enough political elements that we have to say is this a hate crime is this yes it is does it have the markings and characteristics of terrorism and what is terrorism it's violence to intimidate for a certain political
Starting point is 00:13:39 goal and what you're talking about a day of vengeance there's a larger ideology of aggression to deal with opponents of transgenderism the language the vile language directed at jk rowling at at um there was a parker posey yeah she was just in new zealand basically drummed out of the place posey parker posey parker parker posey's an actress wait wait what's the one name uh park posey parker posey parker it's kelly jane keenan she's been on, wait, what's the name? Posey Parker. Posey Parker. It's Kelly Jean Keenan. She's been on the show before. And here's the thing. This is like the same word, but you know.
Starting point is 00:14:09 This is the, well, let me slow down. Based on what the police have said about a manifesto and the targeting of a school, I believe it is beyond a reasonable doubt. And the timing. Because Friday is Transvisibility Day, International Transvisibility Day. And they've been calling with social media posts for a day of vengeance, outright saying to get weapons.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Now, here's here's the thing. We need to stop the violence. We need we need to tone all of this down. The issue is it is the left. Oh, so you've got people out in the middle of nowhere who are sovereign citizens. There's this guy I was going to mention a moment ago. He's, I think he's a researcher for like the Anti-Defamation League or something like that. And I followed him for a long time because, you know, I don't mind, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:54 I'll see what he has to say when he's reporting on this stuff. Typically, it's like right-wing groups. And he recently argued that the Jews in Germany, he was effectively arguing they should not have had guns because it wouldn't have mattered anyway. People were people were it was there was I think it was Michigan GOP posted that if you know that Nazi Germany had been Michigan GOP posted that Nazi Germany took away the guns from Jewish people and that if they had them, they would have been able to fight back. This guy starts tweeting about how there weren't enough Jews anyway. So had them, they would have been able to fight back. This guy starts tweeting about how there weren't enough Jews anyway,
Starting point is 00:15:28 so stop acting like they could have prevented anything. And it's a crazy argument to make. I don't care if it's one versus a hundred. If a Jewish person is facing down 100 Nazis, let them defend themselves, please.
Starting point is 00:15:41 So this mentality among these people who supposedly oppose hate is what? that they were supposed to submit and just roll over and die. It is absolutely absurd. This is the gun control argument. And so you have here three nine-year-old children and three faculty members, a janitor. I mean, what did he do to anybody? He has nothing to do with any of this. He's just cleaning. And this person breaks in. I believe it is beyond a reasonable doubt that this is an act of terrorism. It is a hate crime, whatever you want
Starting point is 00:16:08 to call it. I don't like hate crimes. I don't like the structure of what they are. A crime is a crime. You shoot somebody, you shoot somebody. Trying to determine motivation is a difficult thing. We know, and if it is, then it's terror. This is what we're seeing right now in this country. We are seeing far-left extremists in Georgia commit acts of terrorism, burning down houses, setting fire to this police facility, shooting at cops. We are seeing over the past several years with the Summer of Love, just endless. It's endless. But you get one right wing riot at the Capitol. And then all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:16:45 that is the news and nothing else matters. And it's because the corporate press is covering up for what is clearly a problem that needs to be addressed, and it's mental health. We've been screaming that nonstop for years. Every time we see one of these mass shootings, I think every time there's pharmaceuticals involved, school shootings I'm talking about,
Starting point is 00:17:03 I could be wrong because it's obfuscated probably by intent because the people that sponsored the news are probably Pfizer and Moderna and these crazy corporations that are making the drugs that the kids are taking that then they're losing their minds. There's definitely mental health always. I find myself contrasting today's tragedy with Uvalde, right? Like the student who was the teenager who was involved in that was you know reportedly socially withdrawn he had anxiety he had depression uh and then the other part that i can't stop thinking about is the fact that law enforcement
Starting point is 00:17:34 waited to enter the building like i know there's a lot of criticism of law enforcement in today's day and era and many of much of it's justified but thank goodness law enforcement entered the building here and prevented an even bigger tragedy right six people dying is too many on the other hand at least they entered the building i think that our country has conflated uh what we should be doing with how we how we're afraid of being perceived right the cops are afraid of what's going on in the building so they don't enter in texas but here they enter because we know that they made a mistake. When we look at mental health, we're afraid of seeming bigoted or closed-minded. And so we say, yeah, identify however you want to identify. But really, we know that we are doing a disservice to people who are genuinely confused and in
Starting point is 00:18:17 distress by letting them operate on a gender spectrum that is ultimately furthering their confusion and suffering. Yeah. Believe what you like. If you want to think you're a carrot, okay. But if you start taking psychotropics, dude, you got to watch out. Well, also, if you think you're a carrot, I'm not going to tell you you're a carrot, right?
Starting point is 00:18:36 I want to help you and I don't want you to be in distress, but I'm not going to let you continue to operate in a way that just completely distresses you further. Well, you're an anti-carrot bigot, obviously. I adjust, but there's a combination of things here. You have, I mean, teenagers, young people, hormones, emotions, fitting in in this crazy world, the stress of social media. It's tough to be a young person. Add in the ideological component.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Transgenderism, I believe, is very ideological. And then put in the meds. And that is, you know what, I don't talk a lot about MKUltra or other psycho-drug-oriented experiments done by authorities. Going back, frankly, a lot of that stuff started the Nazis, when they had all this mass of humanity in the death camps. The Nazis did experiments on humans without their permission, obviously, in Auschwitz and other places. Dr. Joseph Mengele, they called him the angel of death. He did experiments on twins. He did experiments on hypothermia. He did all these atrocious experiments. After the Second World War, some of those experiments were picked up by America, by the CIA. And they continued in this.
Starting point is 00:19:52 You could say it continues to this day in places like Wuhan to do biological experiments, atrocious things. But now it's not just a handful of people. Now it's gone broad. It's gone public. And I think that, of course, the real victims here are the shooting victims, but the perpetrator was revved up and weaponized and ideologically directed, if this manifesto is what I fear it is. Well, I think it's probably the case that this was a response to Tennessee banning these surgeries. And I believe
Starting point is 00:20:29 that they're, I don't want to say too much more than that. Look, they're going to be passing this law. Of course, the Daily Wire played a large role in advocating for this. And we recently had Michael Knowles say that we need to eradicate transgenderism, referring specifically in the context of his speech to the ideology of gender ideology. But of course, that was taken by political opponents and turned into arguments that he was calling for genocide. The interesting thing is, even if Michael Knowles simply said that,
Starting point is 00:21:00 it turns out to have been the other side that went and targeted children in school, which is just needless. It serves no purpose other than to hurt your own political cause. This is what I've been warning about, man. We need people to chill out. But I feel like the Internet is hyper-radicalizing people every single day. And so I want to make sure we stress this point. That's why, you know, people will like to say,
Starting point is 00:21:26 simple as a milquetoast fence-sitter. Look, I don't think this is about transgender. We got to make sure we separate woke from trans because we've had trans people on the show who are clearly not woke, clearly not, and oppose it outright. You have gays against groomers, and then you have their sister organization, trans against groomers. But there are people who are, this is what I keep saying, I'll put it this
Starting point is 00:21:49 way, that woke does not refer to this leftist Marxist theory. That woke is more about the cult-like adherence to left tribal social orthodoxy. Their support for Ukraine has nothing to do with Karl Marx. I mean, like, why do they fly the flag? That makes no sense. But there's a strong correlation between those who do and what we would refer to as woke. What we're seeing with these people, I believe, is they're going on the internet. They're seeking social validation. They are finding it in these rules and policies and then pushing themselves further and further into that hyper-radicalized social validation. The example that I often use is when Trump started running for office, you know, now what? Man, this is eight years ago. They wrote an article saying
Starting point is 00:22:36 Trump is racist. They get a million views. If they write the same article twice, they don't get a million views the second time. So they have to say Trump is even more racist. Then they have to say Trump is the most racist. Then they have to say Trump is almost as bad as Hitler. Then Trump is as bad as Hitler. And then finally, Trump is worse than because if you don't give people more, the same story won't trigger that dopamine hit. This is what's happening to people online. They're posting something. I mean, we talked about this again with Dylan Mulvaney. If you look at Dylan Mulvaney's TikTok account and go all the way to the beginning, it's animal videos. Animal videos, then Broadway videos, then non-binary, then trans, then time for surgery and the days of girlhood. Like, clearly what you see is, and you can do this for almost any YouTuber.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Look at Mr. Beast. You see their early content and then eventually they figured out what got them social validation and traffic, and then they start adhering to it and escalating more and more and more. That's why I want to say there's a difference between trans people and woke ideology. This, this attack comes from the woke cult. It is an element of the left, things that Democrats support. And I assure you they're going to be, and there are trans trans people clearly want nothing to do with this and would would be absolutely against this and the woke yeah what percentage of society adults no let's just say all all society
Starting point is 00:23:53 nine and up is medicated you guys have any idea any numbers any ideas i don't know i i think it's over 50 i'm talking not talking caffeine talking like pharmaceuticals and stuff I demand a list of the pharmaceuticals that this guy was on or this girl this girl and again testosterone or whatever and they're real quick there are people I saw in the chat don't understand this individual who shot up this this church in this Christian school is biologically female born a girl raised a girl and then recently wanted to be a man. And lived at home with her parents, right? Up until the shooting, they searched her family's home where she lived with her parents.
Starting point is 00:24:34 I mean, normally you hear we have to have medical intervention at an early age because kids feel suicidal if they're experiencing this type of gender dysphoria. And especially if they aren't accepted by their families, we hear these things. In this case, it doesn't seem like this person was rejected by their family right they are suffering but they have support uh i agree with you i'd be interested to know what kind of treatment this person was going through what hormones or anything else were going on i think it's important to acknowledge the role social media plays in this i think social media especially for uh people who are prone to anxiety depression or experiencing loneliness can feed sort of the darkest parts of what they think they need to do to get social affirmation. So if you start seeing
Starting point is 00:25:11 videos in the algorithm that say, well, maybe you're transgender, maybe you're gender fluid, and you start clicking them, you get more of them. And then maybe you come out as gender fluid, and you get a ton of likes on that post. And so your dopamine skyrockets, then you up the ante, you keep going, they experience this addiction. And they can literally quantify what kind of what level of social acceptance they're experiencing by how well these posts are performing, right. And that is an extremely strange way to measure if you're doing the right thing. That's actually the second of the three reasons I think these things are happening. The first is pharmaceuticals.
Starting point is 00:25:47 The second is social media algorithm, twisting things like what Michael Knowles said, et cetera. And the third, I think, is war weariness in that we've created after 20 years a broken society of returning veterans that are struggling to raise children because they're freaking out about what they've done, what they've been a part of with this setting up shop in Libya and Iraq and Afghanistan, like this occupation. And we're told that it's just.
Starting point is 00:26:12 And so kids are like six, knowing that it's not just, but being gaslit to think that it is. So they turn psycho because if you're told as a kid that something is red when it's green, you're going to go psycho. I mean, I think that's interesting. I don't think we see any evidence of uh that in this case as as of yet uh you were in ukraine for instance sure i think what's happening more is a a call to a justification for radicalism right so if this person is spending a lot of time online and is hearing like republicans in your
Starting point is 00:26:41 state are out of control they're passing these crazy laws and we need to act. They are not stopping it. And this person feels as though their life is sacrificial, right? There's no reason. I mean, you can't enter this building, pull off this kind of plot, and not think that you are potentially going to get hurt, right? So this person went in knowing dying was a possibility. They thought that dying for this cause was worth it. I mean, that is a radical way of thinking.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Go ahead. I mean, that is a radical way of thinking. Go ahead. I saw a video earlier. I did a segment about it where it's a trans man crying over being misgendered. And they explain how, you know, first they show that they've had their breasts removed and double mastectomy. And I looked at this individual's TikTok account where this video originated and went all the way to the past, like all the way to the first post. And it was a normal looking young woman who was making videos about having crushes on men. And then all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:27:36 there's this gradual transformation, which ends with them crying because society does not accept them. And I think what's happening for a lot of people, this is why I say there's a difference. There's a difference between the internet's version of things and things. And what I mean by that is this individual goes on TikTok and then everyone affirms them and tells them everything they want to hear. Then they go out into the real world and they don't experience it in any way. And it's shocking to someone. Then they go out into the real world and they don't experience it in any way. And it's shocking to someone. If all of your social interactions are, as Ian mentioned, if everyone tells you growing up, it's green, but then it's actually red, you're going to
Starting point is 00:28:14 go crazy. If all of your social interactions are telling you green, green, green, then you go outside and everyone screams red. You're like, this is wrong. Something doesn't make sense. And so you'll break down, cry, and retreat to where everything feels good again, the internet. So this person goes in the real world where they are discernibly biologically female, and they experience people being like, hi, ma'am. She, you know, this woman would like a coffee. And they're just shocked as why anyone would do that. And it's well, in reality, it's very different.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Online, you can get one person of leftist gender ideology from every major city. If you go outside in that major city, you will not find that one person. But online, they all find each other and create a space with now 100,000 people in it. So you're surrounded by people cheering you on, clapping and petting you on the back. Then you walk outside and they are nowhere to be found.
Starting point is 00:29:09 This is a component that is driving people insane. They're going online. I have to imagine it this way. You want to fit in. The average, you know, weak-willed individual just desperately wants to fit in. They're saying to you, tell me whatever I have to do to be popular. So they go online. They do exactly what they're told to be popular. Now they say, okay, I've done everything they've said. I've gotten all the likes. Let me go outside to the real world and go to a burger joint. And all of a sudden they're not getting that same affirmation. There's a disconnect in what they're told they have to be in order to fit in. and then going out of the real world and realizing they went so far off into the psychotic realm of nonsense, they don't fit in with anyone at all. Think about what's going to happen with AI in video games when people are going to be affirmed into absolute just strange states of being.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Did you see the picture? Oh, sorry to interrupt. Real quick, real quick. Ezra's wearing a suit or whatever you would describe it. A suit jacket with a button up. That is a social construct, the style of clothing we wear. In the real world, a suit signifies something. Hannah Clare is wearing a leather jacket.
Starting point is 00:30:16 It fits in with certain crowds. It presents a certain image. Imagine if you went online, you're a little kid and everyone is posting pictures and they're all dressed like Chef Boyardee. And so the guy who's smiling and chiseled and handsome is dressed like Chef Boyardee. The beautiful women are all dressed like Chef Boyardee. So you order online by clicking a link, Chef Boyardee costume, and you go outside in the real world and everyone laughs at you. brain cracks you're like this is what life is how come when i go outside everything is wrong the world is broken and that's driving people insane man you talked about i i i ai and and this artificial generation of like media content you've got what is it like dolly and uh open ai and these there's this picture of the pope wearing a white puffer coat that's like gone completely universally viral around the world.
Starting point is 00:31:08 People thought it was real. It was generated by a computer. But that's going to happen more and more and more. And you listen to the guy who runs Sam Altman, who's created OpenAI, who's doing ChatGPT. They think that we're going to have like artificial general intelligence by December, like that we will be living in a manipulatable database. And someone, I was posting like, this is just, this is it. This is like the slow confusion that leads us to technocracy. And someone was like, you know, the value of outside and just normal
Starting point is 00:31:35 life, your immediate surroundings is becoming way more valuable and you cherish it and nurture it. And what is the place for ordinary people, for severely normal people in such a world? Severely normal people, it's such a great phrase. Yuval Noah Harari, who's sort of the muse, the brainchild, the up-and-comer in the world economic form. I would say he's sort of the ideological advisor to Klaus Schwab. He talks about useless people. He talks about millions of people being useless in this new world. I mean, think about people who will be out of work when every car and every truck is automatically autopiloted.
Starting point is 00:32:18 And his advice is, well, drugs and video games will take care of them and have them in this numb state to remove them from the real world. I think one of the funniest circumstances was when anti-lockdown protesters were outside of a hospital and Antifa came and started beating them up, calling them Nazis. It's like, how is it that the people are saying no to the government are the fascists when they're opposing government control because it is a cult. So people need to understand this about the communists. That's what they were at the turn of the century, 1900s, when the communists started rising up and started fighting with nationalists and fascists.
Starting point is 00:32:56 And you got these civil wars. It's because you had cults. When you look at these people of this ideology, so why i say it is adherence to a is it cult-like adherence to a left liberal social orthodoxy that's it imagine what it must be like to surgically alter your body thinking that's what society wants of you and then being told it was the wrong move but knowing you can never go back your brain would not allow you to accept that so i remember researching this back when i was uh in my late teens because i've been you know in activism and studying stuff and i wondered why
Starting point is 00:33:30 it was that when it came to talking politics people would get so violently angry when i'm sitting there calmly being like look x y and z they'd go no oh and i'm like why are you mad like i'm like here i'll pull let me let me let me Google search this and show you the article. And like, here's the news. They get really mad. They won't accept it. Why is it? What I, what I read was,
Starting point is 00:33:50 and it's been a long time. So maybe the science has changed, but the idea is when our brains are developing up until about the age of 24, when they start to finally solidify into their final form, like our worldview has solidified, it is biologically advantageous
Starting point is 00:34:04 to reject new ideas. You have survived into late adulthood into, well, technically by our standards, early adulthood, but you know, for, you know, going back to human evolution, making it a 24, you did it. You survived one of the most dangerous periods, early, early life, clearly, whatever it is you did worked. Do not reject those things because you could die. And so there was an evolutionary pressure for us to become what we are and then adhere to it. Additionally, there was an evolutionary pressure to reopen our minds in the middle of our lives, hence a midlife crisis. People start adapting and trying new things for these reasons. So if you go to someone who's 25 or older, maybe 40, and tell them with proof their worldview is incorrect, it will cause them physical and emotional pain. And they will not accept it. They will get angry because when you get emotional, your logic shuts down. Breaking through to these people is very, very difficult. Now you add in the fact that some of these people have physically altered themselves in ways that can never be reversed. It's not just telling someone they bought the
Starting point is 00:35:13 wrong product. You know, someone goes out and goes to the store and you're going to buy me a blender and they buy a microwave. They're going to get angry and be like, I can't believe I did that. Simple fix. You got to go back. But if you surgically alter your body, there's no going back. And so these people have to maintain that. And this goes beyond just obviously these ideologies. I've talked with several researchers and scientists about modern science. The inability of older scientists to accept new theories is exactly this. I did not dedicate 30 years of my life to being wrong you will not
Starting point is 00:35:47 disprove me hence you end up with deeply political science egyptology is like that according to graham hancock he's got a lot of pushback and uh i think it's forensic uh yeah impressions of teeth or something there's like one science that they used to use all the time and the system just did not want to change its mind on it i have to ask do you think we'll get accusations of dead naming like this person the media has already done it the media's already done it i haven't seen it already widespread yeah the usa today ran a story saying that the media had misgendered and misidentified the trans man well it came out right away that it was a girl that did the mass shooting yeah and it is it's a
Starting point is 00:36:22 woman it's a girl i don't know her age that is also a trans that did the mass shooting. Yeah. And it is. It's a woman. It's a girl. I don't know her age. That is also a trans man, apparently, which indicates to me that there was testosterone. I want to know. I want to know. I need to know how much testosterone was she on. Well, and I wonder how quickly this will get set aside, right? Like how quickly. We've had other cases.
Starting point is 00:36:39 I mean, I know Benny Johnson pointed this out. As soon as this broke in the newsroom, we were talking about it. There was those two teenagers at the high school in Colorado and one female identified as a man. Basically, that story immediately died, even though it was a pretty serious school shooting. Aberdeen, Denver, Colorado Springs, and now Nashville. She shot three nine-year-olds. How could this ever go away?
Starting point is 00:37:01 That's the most. What would you do if you saw her letting the gun down at the nine-year-old and you that's the most what would you do if you saw her let me the gun down at the nine year old and you had a and you were armed watching what would you do you would kill the person you have to or stop them you would stop you would incapacitate them you do whatever you can to save those children and the police did just that and it's horrible and it's crazy to me because i'm on facebook and the left is on my facebook are not respecting the pronouns this is the weirdest thing i'm not going to name some of these people, but I'm like looking at my Facebook and they're like, what this person did doesn't warrant respect for me. She did this. She did that. And they're celebrating the death. And I'm like, this is crazy to me. I'm not happy that anybody died. I'm not
Starting point is 00:37:38 happy that the shooter died. I'm not happy that the children died. It's the shooter's fault. And the shooter had to be stopped. But I'm not even favor the death penalty i i just i it is shocking to me that it seems like there are just people who want death and i'm like i kind of just want less of it it's because there's no going back i believe you made a great point about when they get surgically all i don't know did she get did she have top surgery i don't know about that but i'm saying for for some of these people like the video i mentioned earlier where the trans the trans man is crying because people won't acknowledge or affirm them. It's like you're not going to get that in the real world. Like, I mean, in physical spaces with other people because they don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:38:17 You know, in Scotland, they have the Scottish national, the separatists who run the local authority. It's like a state scotland it's a country within the uk and nicola sturgeon was the boss and she was asked a question about a transgender male to female let me let me jump to this story we have from the post-millennial breaking ran paul staffer stabbed in brutal attack in washington dc the staff member was repeatedly stabbed with a knife on the 1300 block of H Street Northeast. A statement by Senator Rand Paul confirmed on Monday that a member of his staff was viciously stabbed in broad daylight in D.C. over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:38:55 As per the police report, the staff member was repeatedly stabbed on the 1300 block. We read that. The staffer survived the attack. Quote, I ask you to join Kelly and me in praying for a speedy and complete recovery and thanking the first responders, hospital staff, and police for their diligent actions. We are relieved to hear the suspect has been arrested. At this time, we would ask for privacy so everyone can focus on healing and recovery. 42-year-old Glynn Neal of Southeast D.C. was arrested and charged with assault with the intent to kill.
Starting point is 00:39:28 So this news just broke right as we were getting ready for the show. I'm wondering, I don't know if there's been any developments in the identity of this individual, if it was political. But I'm just going to say what everybody's thinking. Civil war. Tom Lynch from NBC tweeted that the suspect told police he was hearing voices in his head that told him to do this. And that's just another element of the very serious mental health crisis we've been having. And I'll tell you outright. Look, there's a reason why there are many liberals who are disaffected and are voting for Donald Trump. And it's because there's the truth and there's the cult. If you are seeking the truth,
Starting point is 00:40:05 you will find that there is a mental health crisis in this country. Most people, I mean, we're seeing diagnoses of mental illnesses skyrocketing among Gen X, millennials and Gen Z, mostly among millennials and Gen Z, mostly among females. So that is a mental health crisis. We are seeing with these mass shootings, this escalation over the past few decades, a mental health problem. But when it comes to the liberals and the left, it's a gun control issue. Every problem that we experience is just an issue of one surface level component to the left, whereas the right is correctly addressing that we have a cultural problem that is resulting in people being mentally
Starting point is 00:40:45 distressed and mentally ill and suffering from mental disorders. Those mental disorders manifest in a bunch of different ways. It might be self-mutilation. It might be, you know, people are cutting themselves. It could be outward acts of violence. It could be drug abuse. Congresswoman Angie Craig of Minnesota was attacked in her, in her, the lobby of her apartment building in D.C. in, let's see, in early February. And she threw up a cup of hot coffee on this person. She told police he appeared to be talking to himself. He really seemed out of it.
Starting point is 00:41:15 She thought he was intoxicated. Maybe there was a mental health component. I mean, people who are in mental distress show signs of that in a lot of different ways, including drug use. What we're seeing online, the hyper-rad radicalization has been happening for a decade now. It was bad enough in 2018. And now it's 2023. And we're on the fourth far leftist extremist attack. Now, the left will come out and say the right has done these and the right has done that. But that's actually not true. A loner, incel, or mentally unwell dude is not an ideologically driven individual. But we've seen it with the past few attacks. We've also seen the
Starting point is 00:41:52 ICE facility firebombing from the man who wrote a manifesto saying he was Antifa. He was ideologically motivated to take these actions. So in the real world, most people I meet have no idea what's going on with any of this, and they get by just fine, up and until it's on the TV behind them, up and until it's their local restaurants out of business, or they can't afford to buy food, or the wars are escalating, too many people are sitting back and ignoring these things, I would be inclined to believe that everything would be okay if it weren't for the fact that we have seen it escalate over the past several years and more and more young people. Here's what I think is happening. You have a certain period where there's a imagine you have at the top the oldest individuals and the youngest individuals up here from Gen X and up.
Starting point is 00:42:40 You have people who are not radicalized by the Internet. They live in this world where nothing's going on. They don't know about this stuff. They don't pay attention. Underneath them, it's hyper-polarized and hyper-radicalized, where you're either on one side or you're not. You're either in the cult or you're not. You're either woke or you're a fascist. When the older crowd of mainly boomers and Gen Xers age out, stop voting, die off, you know, I don't mean to be so crass, but pass away, then you are the only thing holding back full scale crisis collapse shooting in the streets is that right now the country is about half normal people who didn't grow up on the hyper radicalized internet and about half who are hyper radical up on the hyper-radicalized internet and about half who are hyper-radicalized
Starting point is 00:43:25 on the internet. As time goes on, it's not about the conflict escalating between factions. It's about the people holding it back, leaving us and younger people who are more radicalized becoming the norm until you have two different countries fighting each other. And look at the DA in manhattan what is he but the the prosecutorial expression of this and if not him someone else will be a judge i'm worried that at least one of the checks on this madness was the courts but i think that in certain blue state blue jurisdictions you can't get justice if absolutely look at at the January 6th arrestees. Look, I feel like we're playing the communist game right now by calling things left and right.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Yes, you're right. When they wrote the Patriot Act, I was like, they're going to turn this on the American citizens, but how? I visioned it in pockets of little guys and a drone bomb on someone's house, things like that. I didn't picture a bifurcation of society into two ideological concepts. You're right. And then one of them is going to be. You're right. And in the UK, they're antisocial orders.
Starting point is 00:44:31 They have this, an antisocial order? Yeah, and they do it, you know, maybe in the name of soccer hooliganism, but now that's applied to anything. The camel puts his nose in the tent and you can't get it out. And I think you're exactly right and i retract my use of right and left but it's hard to know what language to use like if we want
Starting point is 00:44:50 to be able to talk about this correctly i understand why people tack towards those those words it doesn't matter it doesn't matter if we call it left or right you can call it you can call it a freedom or or woke the idea of left and right is it's a binary. That's the problem. My main problem with it. If you're just saying like, that's the group of tall people. That's the group of green shirt people. That's the group of brown dog lovers. Like I'm fine with that.
Starting point is 00:45:14 But when you start dividing people. Right. Cult and not cult. How about that? Like binary. Cult and not cult is still a binary. It's still like. Because it is.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Because you're either in the cult or you're not. But it's not that simple. Like you said earlier. But it is. There is a cult and you're either in it cult or you're not. But it's not that simple. Like you said earlier, it is a lot. There is a cult and you're either in it or you're not. There's a lot of cults. Donald Trump is a cult. I am referring to the principal faction that adheres to a singular tribal social orthodoxy. I mean, we refer to it as the left. I know a lot of people that are like Trump or die kind of people like whatever he says.
Starting point is 00:45:40 You are correct. Like those are cultists. And they're substantially smaller in numbers with no institutional authorities. And I don care they are not the cult i don't care if you okay we'll call it wabo babo there you go i've created a word for it because you didn't like the word left i don't care what it's called it exists it matters what and there is opposition to it yeah but it matters what it's called it's called left if you're defining a group as another as like you're segmented into here and you're segmented into here there's going to be conflict anytime you do it you can even with little kids in school if you give them like you you guys are like the ones with the power today and you guys are the bad guys you watch the kids
Starting point is 00:46:13 form up and start to punish each other that's immaterial the fact is there is a cult it exists and because you don't like that it does you can't there are so many cults is the point there's all these religious cults there's social cults there. There's political cults. You are not actually arguing what we're talking about. It's not fair just to put all the blame on one ideology in the system. You know, there's nothing, there's no greater pleasure than to see someone emerge from that and become awake. I'd say that's the antonym to being woke is to come awake. Let me throw back to the lockdowns, the pandemic for my source material here. How many members of the Green Party said, what is my party doing supporting big pharma? And in my country of Canada, the Liberal Party whose sacred ideology was pro-choice for abortion
Starting point is 00:47:02 suddenly becoming not for my body, my choice doesn't apply for the vax. Labor union activists, solidarity forever, collective bargaining, selling out to the company without quarrel. Oh, we'll accept mandatory jabs in the workplace without even a strike or a grievance. And so to see people, and I raise that point because there are people who would have called themselves people of the left, the Green Party, the Labor Party, the NDP in my country, liberals, who were shaken out of their ideological taxonomy because of what happened during the lockdowns. But let me tell you, there were a lot of lessons, a lot of bad lessons learned by the authoritarians of what they could do and what they could get away with and i think that that lockdownism and the authoritarianism and the psychological nudging i think that they it was the greatest experiment ever done in the west and they learned terrifying
Starting point is 00:47:58 lessons that they're going to implement and ai is their tool for that absolutely yeah and tv i mean mass media the way that the government way that the US government controls the mass media. Like Biden posted today, the radical House MAGA Republican. And yesterday he tweeted that same thing. Welcome to this special extended Timcast IRL live uncensored starting at nine o'clock instead of starting at 1010 as we normally do. And no bones about it, we took the show down. To put it simply,
Starting point is 00:48:30 there's a couple things that can be said. I'll be a little vague with it because there are still rules that apply to us as it pertains to YouTube and stuff. And I just want to keep things simple. But with this story about a trans person committing a mass shooting, we are on the thinnest of thin ice.
Starting point is 00:48:52 And you know that this one's got these people steaming. There is no way around it. A trans person wrote a manifesto and targeted Christians. It's a terror attack. It's a hate attack. It's a hate crime. And so I'll just put it simply. We got to the point where I felt like we were, that was it. Just to put it simply, if we continue, not only will the show be deleted by YouTube and no one will be able to watch it, but we will probably get a strike inhibiting our ability to do the show for the next two weeks.
Starting point is 00:49:29 So this is the gambit. It's to go all in or fold. And my view is at this point, we're at the line. I say fold, take the show down, put it up on Timcast.com. We'll do the uncensored version. It's unfortunately going to cut a lot of the normal viewers who don't know what happened, and there's no way I can communicate to them. Or the gamble is get two weeks of shows taken down instead of one. And that's fucked. And that's YouTube. And that's the shit we're dealing with right now. But I hope you guys get it. We are
Starting point is 00:50:05 dealing with a story of massive political ramifications. A transgender person. Trans people right now, I believe, this is what's going around right now on Twitter. Per capita, trans people commit more acts of terrorism than any other demographic. Now, that does sound pretty shocking. Then you realize there's very few trans people. So when you see Antifa, which is a large component of trans individuals, and you see four mass shootings in the past couple of years committed by trans individuals, well, yeah. I mean, yeah. And you look at what happened in Georgia. That being said, Crowder has already gotten strikes and been taken down for I think it was like a couple weeks because he brought up that trans that rapists were being transferred to female prisons because they would identify as women and then raping those inmates.
Starting point is 00:50:58 So we're at a point where I'm like, I think we're at like one, two, three, four, five, like, OK, YouTube is going to delete the episode anyway. If we want to have this conversation youtube will just delete it anyway so what we are working on is potential uh what's going on uh it looks like the link's broken on teamcast.com the website's going real slow right now traffic's crazy high on the website because everyone's looking for us so so creating other problems yeah part of it i think is just a lot of people on the website i wanted to just make sure that we checked that uh it's actually the url is correct right it's prompting on on our side i've got a broken code where the video should show up when you go to the members video broken code yeah iframe oh i see yep yeah the code was placed in the wrong spot
Starting point is 00:51:38 yep on visual instead of text. Okay. Okay, it's fixed. All right. Let's see what that does. So should we start from the top? Well, I mean, we've already been streaming for three minutes. People will see the beginning, what was said was said. I update it, and that'll create a good buffer zone for people.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I mean, it was showing them the link of where it was, so if they remember somehow, they could find it. Is it working now? No. I don't know. I'm not really sure. I can't check it right now.
Starting point is 00:52:10 It is true. The website is completely overloaded. We should. I'm struggling to update the page with the correct link because the website is overloaded. People want to hear from Ezra. No, I do too. It's going to cause lag almost no matter what. I think everyone that's watching the show. Wow, I to update this is crazy yeah it's gonna take a while dude
Starting point is 00:52:29 you guys are champions this is what it's all about man when the shit hits the fan there we go check it now check it now okay is it working hold on i got it hey some people found it i like six people are watching it's more exclusive now this is why their members for their prime jump through hoops get through the lag it should be working is it working um can you check handcraft for me quickly there yeah let me see i mean i guess we'll see if we go to the actual timcast is just really slow for me right now yeah because everybody who was watching the show is a lot of people yeah it's gonna because there's like 40,000 people are gonna just like be like what happened i just messaged the one of our developers about it and i think me clicking on simcast right now is not
Starting point is 00:53:13 necessarily helping part of the problem right now but it's mostly like the tens of thousands of people clicking on it probably yeah i mean it says people are saying i'm in is it live i'm in the initial upload didn't work out but um i mean, I guess that's on me. It is working? Slow load time, but the video is there. Slow load time. And I am seeing now it is working. Sorry about that, everybody.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Thanks for hanging out through the technical difficulties. The good news is the app is basically done. We're just waiting on approval. If we get it from the the app stores and um our ultimate goal is to create basically an in-app chat function much like discord for people to communicate and um but uh we may actually just build our own discord like our own version of chat our own chat app it's not too complicated we could take matrix protocol or the element let's do it which is open source and start if you want to reach out because my thing is we should create an open source version of it that's free to use so that way anybody can
Starting point is 00:54:09 use it without fear of being banned and they can utilize this community building tool yeah that's what um that's what element is it's based on the matrix protocol and it's pretty shitty because you can't like pin posts or anything it's real like bare bones but we could start building it out yeah and uh and i will also stress for the people who are members of the elite club at timcast.com we're trying to figure out how to get beta testing capabilities to you guys we're going to be planning uh meetups in uh in austin and then potentially other meetups and then once we get maybe in a couple months we'll have the cafe open because we just went over all the plans. It's looking pretty good. So anyway, welcome to the Uncensored Show with Ezra Levant.
Starting point is 00:54:49 How's it going, man? Tim, it's going great. All things considered. Would you like some whiskey? Are you okay? Free speech is the essential front line. It's the strategic freedom upon which all other freedoms are built. And it's tough. It's tough because
Starting point is 00:55:06 the other side knows it and they control a lot of the forums. And I deeply respect the way you approach it. I love the fact that you bifurcate the show. You have the YouTube version and then you have the real deal for members. And I salute what you built. Dude, it's extremely concerning that the censorship of social media and that people haven't jumped on treating it like a common carrier or something to open out competition
Starting point is 00:55:33 and give, because like, yeah, a fucking guy that owns YouTube wants to ban me off YouTube, ban me off YouTube, but I should have access to my own version of YouTube that I can make.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Because that's like, you can't just stop me from driving on the roads. You know, there are other sites, Rumble, and I respect those guys. When they were leaned on to delete Russia Today, that's a Putin state broadcaster. And they said, no, we're going to let our viewers make the choices for themselves. You can only imagine how much pressure they were under. Not just the regular politically correct woke pressure, but the entire military industrial complex, the State Department, the Pentagon. I was actually stunned that they, I'd never seen such an act of corporate courage.
Starting point is 00:56:12 But who's in Rumble? They have Russell Brand and Tulsi Gabbard and folks like that, but it is not a mass, mass, it's not the public square. I hope they become the public square square but they're not there yet so it is important to be able to swim in the big ocean with everyone else and that's why maintaining the youtube access is so important i understand that and it's a private company so it is the public square but it's fucking currently de facto private company which is fucking i mean i'm not trying to strip these people from ownership.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Fine, if you want to own the public square, but you treat it as a public square. You better treat it as a public square if you're going to own that shit. Well, you know, I'm not an expert in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, but that protection for Internet companies was basically so if someone put something on a website and the Internet service provider didn't know it, you couldn't sue them. They weren't treated like an actual publisher. They were treated more like the owner of a cork billboard, like a cork board, than anyone could put a missing dog or guitar lesson sign on.
Starting point is 00:57:17 The guy who puts the cork board up is not going to be liable for the content of people sticking it up there. It was a platform, not a publisher. But I think that tech companies these days, by their deep curation and their political censorship, are de facto publishers. And I don't know if they should have the immunity that Section 230 gives them. They shouldn't. Yeah, I agree. I mean, at least we got record numbers on the live show within the uncensored portion.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Well, you know, look, let's just break it down for everybody. A lot of people are like, how come you don't just stream exclusively to Rumble? Or why don't you just go on Rumble? Rumble is an echo chamber. I got no problem with Rumble. I think Rumble is fantastic. We're on Rumble right now. We use Rumble infrastructure for our website.
Starting point is 00:57:59 We use Rumble servers for our website. We use Rumble video player. But Rumble as a place to do the show is an echo chamber. And so there's two big issues. If we go exclusive there, are we cutting ourselves off from mainstream and younger people? Because YouTube skews very young. It's the most popular social media app used by young people. And are we cutting ourselves off hoping that we'll maintain an audience on rumble we may um we may
Starting point is 00:58:27 cut ourselves off the other issue is if we do a split stream which we may do you know on all platforms but what happens then is people will decide to go off of youtube yeah youtube will then see lower traffic causing us to be smacked down in the algorithm and then once again we get cut off from younger people and those who would discover the show. So what we're trying to do is make sure as many people as possible discover the show.
Starting point is 00:58:52 And if that means we can then direct people to Rumble and other platforms, we're better off. I don't like this idea that everybody has where they're like, everyone moved to Rumble. And I'm like, but then you're fleeing the battleground.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Like we've got to win that space back. You're ceding ground. And that was my point. You've got like-minded people there, but the whole point is to get people who aren't even political, to get people who don't even think in terms of Republican or Democrat, people whose volume knobs aren't turned up to 10 all the time. Hey, can I ask you just out of curiosity, your views on TikTok? Do you have thoughts on it?
Starting point is 00:59:24 Ban it. And can I ask your thoughts? You don't see this free speech argument. Nope. I'm not an anarchist. I'm not a hardcore big L libertarian. I come from a traditional liberal space. I believe community is important. I believe there is a degree of legitimate authority. People, it's funny because I'm the libertarians like, Tim's a statist. And I'm like, I wouldn't call myself a statist. Like, I'm not in the authoritarian spectrum. I'm on the libertarian spectrum.
Starting point is 00:59:50 But conservatives get this. And there used to be sane liberals who got this. We do have to have some degree of authority. There's a viral video right now where there's this guy yelling at a cop. And the cop's got his pepper spraying. He's going to spray him. And the guy's like,
Starting point is 01:00:04 he's like, what are you doing, man? All I did was, you're accusing me of speeding and now you're going to attack me like in this way and everything? People post that video and they're like, oh, look, these cops are the bad guys. And it's like, well, I got to be honest. I watched that video on these cops. I roll my eyes at them. I'm like, dude, don't, give the guys
Starting point is 01:00:20 ticket. But apparently the context of the story is the cop pulled a guy over for speeding and then the guy refused to show his ID or insurance and cooperate. And it's like, bro, you were speeding like fuck off. Cop pulls you over because you're speeding. If it's a quoted thing to make money, it's bullshit. If you were legitimately going 15 in the video, he says, I was, you're accusing me of going 65 and a 50. And I'm like, well, that's 15 over dude. Now we can have the argument about whether there should be speed limits and all a 50. And I'm like, well, that's 15 over, dude. Now, we can have the argument about whether there should be speed limits
Starting point is 01:00:46 and all that stuff. And fair point, fair point. I actually don't know if I agree with speed limits, to be completely honest. Because I think it just, like, people should be, I'll tell you this, we didn't used to have stop signs. And people, everyone would slow down at intersections to avoid getting hit.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Then we're like, let's make stop signs. And now people blow stop signs and get hit. So my point is this, there's a degree of authority that I expect the government to actually have. It's a limited amount. It's small,
Starting point is 01:01:11 but it's not none. So with TikTok, a foreign funded manipulative social app, which is seeping in, controlled by our adversaries, stealing our data, spying on journalists
Starting point is 01:01:22 and manipulating our young people. I'm like, I don't give a fuck, ban it. Look, I get it. Facebook's bad enough. They steal our data, but at on journalists, and manipulating our young people. I'm like, I don't give a fuck. Ban it. Look, I get it. Facebook's bad enough. They steal our data. But at least they're under our boot.
Starting point is 01:01:29 CIA, not PLA. Yeah, no, I mean, sure. I don't like the CIA. I don't like what they do. But I will take them over the Communist Party of China any day. What are your thoughts on Twitter? I want to be hopeful. I want to be white-pilled.
Starting point is 01:01:41 I know that Elon Musk is exposed to China through Tesla. Like, he's got a big, he's vulnerable there. And that's the one thing he gets nervous about. He speaks from the heart, I think, when he's asked personal questions. You see him clam up on that. What do you make of what he's done? I was shocked that he actually went through with it. I think he's doing a great job. He's going to release the algorithmic source code of Twitter to show people how it's how it controls what they see and things like that i think that's really really important
Starting point is 01:02:08 um i don't want to deviate too much from the actual core subject from tonight though and i think the reason we got into the social media censorship obviously is because um and i'll stress again we took the show down because we were basically at the point where it's like you know like i said go all in or fold let me tap on oh sorry well no but i want to i wanted to go back to the the yeah before we do let me tap on this tiktok thing it's been on my mind a lot they try to pass this thing called the restrict act right now it's in the senate the u.s senate the house has put it in the senate and it gives the chancellor of commerce basically the department of commerce head of the department of commerce the ability to decide like if something
Starting point is 01:02:42 is national security risk they can ban it on media. It's basically like a Patriot Act. So the way they're trying to ban TikTok is with this excessive authoritarian power by giving a single individual or two people the power to ban networks or individuals off networks if there are national threats to security. That's not the right way to ban TikTok. What you got to do, in my opinion, is you say foreign company that's beyond X amount of users, social media, you have to free your source code to function in the United States
Starting point is 01:03:10 so we can watch it. And what they'll say is no, and they'll shut themselves down. And then they'll look like the bad guy rather than make us look like this fucking totalitarian idiot. So that's what you should do is free that shit or legislate that they have to free their code to work in the United States. They won't do it. They'll shut themselves down. Right you're you're right that's what
Starting point is 01:03:27 they said they told them will you will you share the code so we understand what you're doing there and he was like well uh i'll talk to them and get back to you they're not gonna fucking do it they won't do it no no they'll shut it down that's the tactic play the art of war game they'll make them put the ball on their court make them look like the bad guy so um segueing back into the the main subject matter of the night which is this this uh trans person claims attack we got a strike on facebook uh i think it was last week it was last week yeah and that uh is really really bad so here's how it works we start a show starts with me on youtube talk you know well it started with me on like streaming platforms.
Starting point is 01:04:05 I worked for Vice for a little bit. Make a YouTube channel. Start complaining on the internet. Makes money. I then start complaining on the internet more. Makes more money. I then start a nightly show to complain on the internet with friends. Makes a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:04:17 The friends need to be paid. Website needs to exist so that we can create a space like we can actually monetize it because we were only YouTube ad revenue. Very dangerous. YouTube bans us. Company's gone. Launch a website. Well, got to hire people to maintain the website. So we hire employees. We get to the point where we're like, okay, we've only ever posted to YouTube. We need other social media platforms like Instagram and Facebook. We need to be making shorts and reels and doing all these things to maximize our reach and get people to watch the show. We want people to hear these ideas.
Starting point is 01:04:45 We want to win the culture war. Got to hire people to do it. What happens when YouTube suspends us for a week? And they did. We lost a fuckload of money that we use to pay our employees. So when YouTube took us down and did not tell us why, we believe it was related to talking about trans people. And holy shit, like, go watch the Daily Wire and see what they say about trans people and holy shit like go watch the
Starting point is 01:05:06 daily wire and see what they say about trans but we don't go that far yeah but they gave us a seven day suspension taking away a week's worth of pay and that meant i'm like okay we've got to take money from other areas of the company and other budgets to fill that gap now when did that happen that happened a week ago wait you said youtube said YouTube. I'm sorry, Facebook. Oh, sorry, Facebook, Facebook, not YouTube. My mistake. Facebook suspended us for one week. And we don't know why. So that's a week, a whole week from one video, we put up like eight videos per day. And because of one video, that's only a small fraction, we lose an entire week of revenue. When we hire people to work on a platform to produce content their salaries are paid by the monetization like if you hire a guy to make coffee
Starting point is 01:05:53 and sell coffee you're paying a salary with the coffee that he sells and then using the money for other areas or like for for repairing coffee machines and then a small percent goes to profit these leftists don't get it profit marginsit margins for coffee shops are microscopic, 5%. And they're like, the person who works there should get all the money. They fucking do. Labor costs are like 95% of everything. Anyway. You know, there's a saying, you can't save the world if you can't pay the rent.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Yeah. And that's the burden of the boss. And everyone else is a critic. But at the end of the day, i you know rebel news it's not as big as tim cast but it's it's a thing in canada it's proportionately it's it's bigger yeah but you know the burden of being the boss is you got to make payroll and that's what's worried me every single day and when we were demonetized we did we shrunk and and i think that uh i'm not going to say right and left i'm going to say woke
Starting point is 01:06:46 media, I'm going to follow your advice there. They get a lot of dough through venture capital that I think is a kind of money laundering. Oh, I agree. What do I mean by that? When Hillary Clinton gets a speech for a quarter million bucks, which she used to do all the time, is that really a speech that you haven't heard a hundred times before? That's really your way of giving a quarter million bucks to her so you can get your phone call answered.
Starting point is 01:07:07 That's money laundering. It's like Hunter Biden's paintings. And so when a VC shovels 100 million bucks into a woke online news or opinion site that really doesn't connect with its audience, it's a form of political money laundering. It's a kind of super PAC, except for it looks like a legit business. And if you're truly independent, you don't get that dough. I don't know your finances. I don't know how Tim Cash works. Members. There you go. And you know, that's the most honest, most ethical way. And we do ours through
Starting point is 01:07:40 crowdfunding. We were totally demonetized. We had, I think, 1.6 million YouTube subscribers. We still have them. We don't make a penny out of it. So we go to the crowdfunding we were totally demonetized we had i think 1.6 million youtube subscribers we still have them we don't make a penny out of it so we go to the crowdfunding model which has its pluses and minuses people squawk they say oh you're always asking for a buck oh you're always asking for well you know what you either get it from an oligarch well it's not it's or you get it from a conglomerate company or you earn it a viewer at a time that's the most ethical way to do journalism is what you're doing. I just, anybody who says like, I'm not paying for this, I just say, I don't care. Like, dude, if I opened a pizza shop and you came in and said, give me, you make my pizza
Starting point is 01:08:13 for free. I'd be like, no. Well, not just that. It costs me money, dude. But he doesn't understand that the media he's getting for free, he's getting it for free for a reason. Either he is what's being sold, TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, or he is the audience that is being sold by a VC propagandist woke outfit. There is always commerce going on.
Starting point is 01:08:32 You either know it or you don't. That's why our sponsor for the night was Public Square, publicsq.com. We're going to give them a freebie. We'll do another ad tomorrow because I'm a big fan of theirs, and I want to shout them out, so it's really cool they sponsored the show. But Public Square, you can find companies that you can shop at where you're giving money to good people who agree with you and believe in what you do and what we believe.
Starting point is 01:08:54 We have very few sponsors at all. I don't want to sell my audience as a product. I want to sell my company to my audience as the product. So for the people who are members, you're paying $10 a month to purchase the pizza that our pizza shop makes, which is us complaining on the internet. On YouTube, you're not only getting your – A little self-deprecating. What's that? I said I'm being a little self-deprecating.
Starting point is 01:09:15 That was good. Well, it's from time to time. On YouTube, not only are they harvesting user data, and that's one price that you're paying is that your algorithms are being taken and you're being measured from a distance without your knowledge. But they also – Google bought the thing, subsidized the thing because they know that controlling the flow of information is more valuable than money. It is. It is. Because if you think that – if you make people believe that that food is poison, then you can just go take that food. No one is going to bother you.
Starting point is 01:09:40 So they're controlling how people see things, what people can see. It's a very powerful tool. And that's the cost is that you're being controlled and manipulated when you bow down to free media. It's not really free. It's coming from somewhere. It's costing you your mind space. Ezra, I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about how rebel media got started. I mean, because I think a lot of people want to affect change, especially when they're frustrated with the news.
Starting point is 01:10:03 And you have really done that in Canada. I mean, you guys, I can't even think of a direct comparison competitor. You know, I used to have a real TV show on real TV. Every night I was on for an hour, if you can believe it, on something called the Sun News Network. It was owned by an oligarch in Canada, but he gave us a lot of freedom. And there was 200 of us. It was on real TV.
Starting point is 01:10:23 And then our broadcast regulator basically aborted the project. And so we all went in on the last day to get our severance. And I said to some of my team, you, you, you, you come to my place. Let's try and do this on the internet. It was 2015. So not, I mean, not really early days, but early-ish. So early-ish, yeah. And we did it for a week we tried journalism with
Starting point is 01:10:47 you know just reporting style like in the field and then we tried our first crowdfund i sent an email to our our people and i said look sun news network died chip in a few bucks if you want us to live and they did and and we and we build up lists of people who we think are interested in different issues and we emailed them to chip in for we think are interested in different issues, and we email them to chip in. For example, we went to Davos for the World Economic Forum a couple months ago. People wanted to see that, and I said, here's our budget. It costs us this amount of money to send people there.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Help us pay it. And by the way, if you oversubscribe, we'll put that money towards other costs. That's sort of our model is some of our crowd funds don't make it. Some break even. Some make a surplus and we apply that. So we got 47 people in the company that live primarily off crowd funding because we're completely demonetized by the social media companies. Our motto is telling the other side of the story.
Starting point is 01:11:40 In Canada, they don't do that very much. And I don't want to talk too much about Rebel News. I mean, maybe you can talk about Canadians. Do Canadians feel like they are being offered alternative points of view? I think they're hungry for it. That's right. And here's what gave birth to Rebel News.
Starting point is 01:11:55 And there's now a few other independent media in Canada, too. You refer to the Postmillennial. They're largely American now, but they did some good work in Canada. We were hanging out with Libby earlier. Libby's great. The bad news about Canada, and this is the warning I have for America,
Starting point is 01:12:09 is do not let government regulate your media more than it is, and certainly do not let government subsidize it. Justin Trudeau was elected in 2015, and I always like to say his electoral base is the media. So what did he do for his base? He said, I'm going to give you hundreds of millions of dollars to make up for the internet that's destroying you. And they embrace that.
Starting point is 01:12:29 And so most newspapers in Canada, about a third of their money comes directly from the federal government. Well, how do you think that changes the coverage of the federal government? And now he's saying, well, I'm going to get Facebook and Google YouTube to cough up another third. And I'm going to pass a bill that says by linking to your content, they're using your content, they should pay for that. Facebook doesn't want to do that. They say linking is the essence of the internet. We're doing a favor to
Starting point is 01:12:55 publishers by linking. But Trudeau says, no, I'm going to take these big tech giants and make them pay their fair share. So soon, if he gets his way, the average newsroom in Canada, a third of the money will come from Trudeau. A third of the money will come from Zuckerberg and big tech. Well, you have just tamed the industry. And now all of the entire journalistic class, when I say 99% of the media in Canada is on the dole, I am not exaggerating. It's actually more than that. I only know three companies that don't take the dough. What companies? Ours,
Starting point is 01:13:29 something called True North, TNC.News, and Western Standard.News. They're all independent guys because it's so tempting. If someone said, Tim, here's $2 million a year
Starting point is 01:13:40 from Joe Biden, you'd have to be a strong man to say no to that. I'd easily say no to that. I mean, you would because that would destroy your reputation and no other person would give you that. Oh, I don't even care about that. Fuck that guy. Okay, but you're making a go of it. But in Canada, I hope all the my employees know this, that if
Starting point is 01:13:55 Joe Biden or any government agent came to me and said, your choices are we destroy your company and erase it overnight or you take the $2 million from us, I'd be like, buddy, I got a fishing pole. I'll be in my van down by the river. Go fuck yourself. And that, first of all, I believe you. Second of all, that is the reason you're successful is because people believe you. And you can never lose that. And if we were to take the money, it would destroy us overnight. Our motto is telling the other side of the story. You can't
Starting point is 01:14:21 say that. And the reason we were able to cover the trucker convoy in the way we did is because we didn't take any government money. And so we were the only one of the only people in the country were able to take a contrarian view. I don't want to take sponsors. You know, my fear is we're going to get a company. And what they do is there's also why I don't want to sign with any of these companies. One day someone's going to come to you. You're going to sign a deal with name any company. I don't want to call anybody out by name but i'm saying just pick any one of these big media companies and the ceo or the coo or someone's gonna come to you and be like hey dude uh ian man look you know we love the show you rock ian graphene but we got a new sponsor and it is a it's an aluminum company and that graphene talk is well they don't like it because they're
Starting point is 01:15:06 sponsoring the show so i'm not trying i'm not trying to say like you're you shouldn't but we got to pay the bills right man so why don't you lay off the graphene stuff for a little bit so these aluminum sponsors that's what happens with all these big companies when you have sponsors they'll come in and they'll be like look or or worse still when the adpocalypse happened we're getting demonetized like crazy i'm like fuck we didn't even do anything wrong we don't break the rules they're taking our ads away some antifa person's gonna come in they're gonna be like you know ian talks about graphene that's a dog whistle for nazi bullshit and then all of a sudden your ads are gone fuck them you do not want your audience to be your product you want your
Starting point is 01:15:44 commentary and your news to be your product and you want to sell it. So we here's why YouTube is important for us. It's how we market. It's how we say, hey, support our work and we'll do more and it's free for you. And we do get ad revenue through YouTube, but I don't give a shit when they demonetize us. I'm like, fuck it. I don't care. It's the blocking.
Starting point is 01:16:02 It's the strikes. It's the it's shutting the show down. It's the, hey, can I? Shutting the show down for a week, we would then just go to Rumble or whatever. But that's still like, if we can maximize our reach to the younger generation by being on YouTube, I have to do it. As long as you can for every minute that you can. We've been demonetized for five years now.
Starting point is 01:16:21 We still put things on YouTube. We're not everything because like you say, we want to get them climbing up that ladder. Step still put things on YouTube. We're not everything because like you say, we want to get them climbing up that ladder. Step one is watch a video. Then maybe come over to the website. Then maybe get involved.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Can I tell you some news from the future? Sure. I love having a time travel here. I somehow say sometimes in Canada there's a time machine because we're doing
Starting point is 01:16:39 terrible things now that if you're not careful might happen in your country in a few years. This government subsidy of journalism, this forcing big tech to subsidize journalism, it's so tempting to the publishers, especially corporate media who don't care about anything other than the rate of return.
Starting point is 01:16:53 They don't care about editorial integrity. What do they care? But I want to tell you, if I may, and I don't want to get too technical, but there is a law that Justin Trudeau is passing. And I've got it on my screen here. I'm not going to read a lot. I just want to read one paragraph to you because I think you should, I mean, whatever you care about Canada, I want you to care about could this come to America, and I think it could.
Starting point is 01:17:15 In Canada, I said Trudeau gives out a lot of dough to every media except for three, and they ban rebel news from certain things they've introduced a journalism license now they don't call it that but they call it something even worse the qcjo qualified canadian journalism organization and it's decided by our version of the irs you have to apply to our irs the canada revenue agency for this qcjo news license qualified canadian journalism organization and and so i did because I wanted to see. So they had a panel of experts, including a professor, review hundreds of our stories and do an analysis of it.
Starting point is 01:17:52 And they said less than 1% of what you do is legitimate news. Oh, bullshit. We're appealing legally. There's no way to say what we do isn't news, but yet to grant this QCJO news license to every woke media in the country that has it here's what the qcjo does obviously it gets you that government money obviously it gets you that youtube facebook money you know we wouldn't take government money we
Starting point is 01:18:14 would never it gives you accreditation to press conferences from which we are banned but here's what scares me and i'm going to read from section 1.1 sub 1e. I got it right here on my screen, and this is legalese, but I know you'll be able to see the words. It's just two sentences. The commission that Trudeau sets up may make orders imposing conditions on the carrying of the broadcasting, so they call YouTube, Facebook facebook broadcasters so the government can order the broadcasters here's the money quote the presentation of pro uh to implement policy including conditions respecting here it is the presentation of programs and programming services for selection by the public including the showcasing and discoverability so the qc so
Starting point is 01:19:09 not only does it regulate qcjo but if you have it the government will compel facebook and youtube google to boost qcjo trusted journalists and if you do not have qcjo hello then it will be ordered the government will order youtube google facebook to de-boost you because you're not a qualified canadian journalist listen holy shit this is the restricted in the u.s yes yeah this is crazy fucking parallel and i want and we'll put a tack in it because give me 10 seconds quebec had the chance to join the revolution you know that right the 13th we had 13 colonies they were the 14th and when we went to them they were like nah fuck off and we were like all right i guess and then we all said fuck you to the crown got our own shit together and well i don't know if you're from you know
Starting point is 01:20:01 quebec or montreal or whatever but you know that that portion of the country, they had an out. That portion of the country, they could have left. And it's funny because of the independence movement. I don't know if that's still a thing. Is that a thing? They like to keep it bubbling a bit, but I don't think they're serious. They could have been North America.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Well, they are North America. They could have been North United States. But yeah, the Restrict Act. This TikTok ban is not a TikTok ban. And Ian's been talking about it for quite a bit. So lay it on us, brother. Well, I heard about it and I was like, well, I didn't hear anything about this. Now it's already in the Senate.
Starting point is 01:20:32 So the House has already passed it. So messaging Matt Gaetz. Really quickly, yeah. Yeah. I feel like we need to have Thomas Massillon as an emergency to talk about this in public. But I started reading it. I'm like, okay, section two is just a bunch of definitions. Yawn.
Starting point is 01:20:44 They want people to stop reading. Hold on. Real on real quick the restrict act is what they're saying ban tiktok yeah this is the ban tiktok thing they're like we're gonna ban tiktok here's the bill because everyone goes yay and then you read it's patriot act 2.0 they want to give power so theoretically they would ban yes because with this bill if it passes you could ban tiktok with it but you could also ban facebook anything it's fucking insane wait wait we could yeah and you could ban any user off any network unless i'm somehow not understanding this but let me let me pull up some some of the ridiculousness and if i'll try and find it on twitter awesome read along this is kind of what i thought too just just from casual perusing of itself so they're setting up the secretary who has all this power the secretary
Starting point is 01:21:22 of commerce that's who they're talking this power, the secretary of commerce. That's who they're talking about. Secretary of commerce, immense power, similar with the fucking IRS of Canada. This thing is all about commerce. They're staging it as a commerce thing. Anyone that poses an undue or unacceptable risk of this is 3A1C, interfering in or altering the result or reported result of a federal election. Interfering with the reported result of a federal election. Interfering with the reported result of a federal election. So if I make a video and say, hey, everyone, I don't like the way that election looks. Let's do a recount. I'm interfering with the projected result, with the reported result.
Starting point is 01:21:57 It's intentionally vague so that they could flag anything they wanted to. You know, and they will never say ban conservative ban freedom they'll never say that they'll say ban misinformation yeah it goes on ban low quality untrustworthy ban things that are foreign interference oh you're a russian obviously go ahead oh they give all these little specifics like what you're saying but then they start to give the broad shit like uh it's section 3a2 anyone that otherwise poses an undue risk or unacceptable risk to the national security of the united states or the safety of the united states persons what let me pull this thread real quick who decides that so i have this uh this thread reader app from dr
Starting point is 01:22:35 lynn finderella i don't know who that is but people were sharing this she writes everyone needs to hear about the restrict act the bill is also currently known as the tiktok ban by many but it looks as though we were all deceived again. The TikTok ban is nothing but a distraction while they try to push the Restrict Act below. If this bill gets passed, we lose almost all privacy we have. The attached screenshots highlight only a few of my concerns with this bill. Any software, hardware, or any other product or service integral to the telecommunications product and services with over 1 million users would now be at the government's disposal to review, prosecute, and take
Starting point is 01:23:07 possession of. They can review any and all of your personal information without even notifying you they are doing so. They can ban any game, application, or thing they deem fit if it, quote, poses a risk. They say it includes services like ring doorbell and in-home security cameras.
Starting point is 01:23:26 A VPM won't help you around this either if caught using a privacy device you face up to 20 years in prison and or up to 1 million dollars in fines so holy shit to put it simply i don't know how it passed the house i mean i'm absolutely shocked with the republican house how this because when people don't pay attention to this stuff and you've only got what 50 good republicans so i'm that's why i'm wondering about paying attention like should i start banging banging banging on this thing i don't pay attention to this stuff and you've only got, what, 50 good Republicans? So that's what I'm wondering about paying attention. Like, should I start banging, banging, banging on this thing? I don't know how long it sits in the Senate. I think restrict is terrible.
Starting point is 01:23:50 I actually don't mind the idea of banning TikTok, but I don't think this is the way to go about it, right? We are going about it in a way that endangers personal privacy and generally freedoms. I think TikTok is malicious. I think personally that it is not a good thing to have in the u.s but i don't think giving additional power to the federal government especially uh insofar as they can review any of your private data is a good idea and if it's about tiktok what's that got to do with you criticizing the reporting of an election i thought this was about tiktok you're talking about american things yeah they're insinuating that it would be chinese people on tiktok doing it and that's the only
Starting point is 01:24:28 reason this general thing about anyone that challenges the reported result of an election can be banned off of social media what are you fucking and if their network refuses to ban me then they can ban the network the entire fucking network they can they can blackmail the fuck i i i i just want to bring awareness to the senators that this is what's in here this is the first section in the fucking bill i pulled up two things in the first section and it's already in the senate yeah so where's where's rand paul you know i tell you between massey and paul kentucky is lifting a heavy load for freedom i tagged them all that's kentucky i didn't know who else to tag i tagged tom and and rand and matt gates and i'm
Starting point is 01:25:06 like please tell anyone you know gates is i mean if it's past the house like yeah he probably knows senators so i'm just like matt if you know people and you want to like shake this around but i think thomas massey he just needs a platform to explain he's very good at it and he knows he reads the bills yep true i don't know how long do bills sit in the Senate? I'm concerned. Well, some bills never make it out of committee, right? Like this bill progressed pretty quickly. It was introduced this year and made it out. There are bills that got introduced three years ago and they'll finally vote on them eventually.
Starting point is 01:25:34 Like it's not a guarantee just because you introduce it that it'll survive. Correct, yeah. I stopped reading the bill after those two parts. I should probably just read the whole thing. It's so long and fucking boring. And what they do is in the beginning of the bill, those two parts I should probably just read the whole thing It's so long and fucking boring What they do is in the beginning of the bill They give you 15 words
Starting point is 01:25:49 Each of these words means something These long paragraphs is the definitions of each of these words So as you go through you gotta kind of find the words They capitalize the words I will say that is normal They do define the terms of the bill Because they're so legalistic And I understand why when you read
Starting point is 01:26:02 Because you need definitions without making every section verbose and repeating definitions over and over again. But it is very confusing. And I'm sure they're happy to keep out the people that don't have the mind space to read this shit or the glucose or whatever it is. You know, I'm worried about this. I haven't heard of this bill before. I just skimmed it as we were talking there. And I think it is worrisome.
Starting point is 01:26:21 I think it is the Patriot Act for social media. But I think that the misinformation and the fact-checking industry is far more insidious than you know. I'm up in Canada. I've never been to Arkansas in my life, never been to Little Rock. I know nothing about it other than that's where Bill Clinton's from.
Starting point is 01:26:37 And then one day I get a note from someone down at the University of Arkansas in Little Rock that there's a defense contractor down there that's been hired to do a workup on Rebel News. What? Rebel News? Yeah. And I get an access to information lawyer in Arkansas and I get the documents. They were hired by the U.S. Navy intelligence to do a report on Rebel News. I like the U.S. Navy. I'm not an enemy. I'm not like a Chinese aircraft carrier they should focus on. What is going on? My first thought was thought was oh i know this is a five eyes move where canada asked russia sorry
Starting point is 01:27:10 canada asked america to spy on trudeau's enemies and in return trudeau will like what have i got to do with the u.s navy nothing and that's the point that's why they do it probably as a favor for trudeau and and i i read it's junk. I mean, there's so many factual errors about it. So it's sort of laughable. But the more we look, and you see this coming out of the Twitter files, the Pentagon, they want to own the information space, but they're not targeting China or Russia. Maybe they are, but they're targeting domestic. Fact checkers are as much a bane to us as censors. I spend half my time justifying our opinions on elections, on vaccines, on lockdowns to fact checkers who are almost uniformly bankrolled in some way by the Pentagon.
Starting point is 01:28:03 Or they're lying. They don't care what you say you say you can be like here is definitive proof in a scientific study there's x and they'll be like i literally don't care i'm gonna put you're a liar yeah and then we're gonna get the institutions to flag you and take you down and all that shit it was like plausible deniability they get some indian company to do it and if they're like oops well they just use pointer institute here's people need to understand the five eye spy club because in the united states look i have the fourth amendment you sure do but that doesn't apply to canada so if canada spies on ian who's he ain't gonna sue canada good fucking luck they're allowed to spy on whoever the fuck they want anywhere in the world and in return they spy on me you americans right on me but then canada will share the information they collect on you with the u.s and then be like look
Starting point is 01:28:42 we got this data from a foreign agency that was flagging it to us. We did not spy on anybody. Oh, my God. I mean, I can think of no other explanation for why the University of Arkansas at Little Rock gets a grant from the U.S. Navy to spy on Rebel News. What the hell? I've never been to Arkansas in my life.
Starting point is 01:28:58 I'm so glad this is what we're spending our federal dollars on. Oh, and just go down that rabbit hole. I mean, we did a bunch of Freedom of Information requests. And part of it's just a gravy train. I mean, these losers at the University of Arkansas, it's bullshit, fake. It's a fake academic genre. But, oh, this is very scholarly work we're doing.
Starting point is 01:29:17 So a lot of it's just gravy train. I mean, you put the word misinformation in something, you're going to get a grant. But it does build up, and it censors any contrarian voices. What's the name of that bill in Canada that you were just talking, the sister bill of this? C11. C11. There's also C18, which has more.
Starting point is 01:29:34 And there's C36. And then there's a yet-to-be-named Online Harms Act. Trudeau has four bills that he's introduced or says he will introduce, four that regulate the internet. And some of them include jail time. four bills that he's introduced or says he will introduce, four that regulate the internet, and some of them include jail time. I put it to you, he doesn't have four bills about inflation. He doesn't have four bills about the cost of housing, about immigration, about Ukraine. What does he actually care about? He cares about stomping out any contrarian voices. And I say again, I am from the future, and this will be your destiny if you pass what do you call that act the restrict act i tell you i see the seeds in that of this c11 that we have in canada you got to hold
Starting point is 01:30:11 the line better to fight in the first ditch than in the last ditch you guys have like a senate that says fuck no our senate is appointed by the prime minister it's appointed for life by the way pointed to age 75 it's a rubber stamp is he isudeau doing this, or is the king giving him the orders? No, no. I appreciate your point about the king. Canada is a constitutional monarchy. The queen or king is on our money, on our passports, on our stamps. But this is purely Trudeau.
Starting point is 01:30:37 This is 100% Trudeau. Since he's taken office, he's tried to control information more than any other leader in Canadian history. And Britain's part of the Five Eyes? Was it Britain, France, US, Canada? No, Britain, US, UK, Australia, New Zealand. This podcast is supported by Talkspace. When my husband came home from his military deployment, readjusting was hard for all of us.
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Starting point is 01:31:57 The king's not operational in the government. That's the story we're always told. I don't believe it. But to be fair, okay, so are you saying it would be the monarchy? Like you're saying Queen Elizabeth is doing it he's only been keeping the game for like 10 whole seconds but but hold on and also ian it's hard enough to run a company like it's it's for for one guy to run five countries is just or four there's all these there's more commonwealth countries around the world there's there's dozens yeah no i i mean listen you can criticize
Starting point is 01:32:23 prince king charles for things, but he did not do this. This predates him. Trudeau has been, we talked about this before the show and we were hanging out. Trudeau has an authoritarian instinct that he inherited from his father before him, Pierre Trudeau. 16 years. You mean Castro?
Starting point is 01:32:39 Yeah, that's right. I hope it turns out that- Hey, we're on Rumble. It's cast.com. There were only two world leaders Who came to the funeral of Pierre Trudeau Jimmy Carter and Fidel Castro It's not great
Starting point is 01:32:51 It's not a great look Yeah you said earlier There's no term limits For Trudeau for private Pierre Trudeau was PM for 16 years Justin Trudeau is now 8 years Between the two of them That's a quarter of a century
Starting point is 01:33:00 And Trudeau Sr. was a true Marxist Who went to the soviet union with his sons and said this is the future he went to mao's cultural revolution and he loved it he was friends with castro there are rumors that i mean it it sounds laughable but google the pictures of young beautiful margaret trudeau getting really handsy with fidel and both margaret trudeau and pierre trudeau had open marriages. I mean, both of them were very adventurous, shall we say. And the timing rather works out.
Starting point is 01:33:31 I wouldn't say that there's proof, but nor is there disproof. And there's that visual similarity. There's like, they were travelogue and they went to Cuba and there's no log from this trip? Pierre Trudeau went to Cuba all the time. It was his way of thumbing his nose in America. I don't care about any of that, to be
Starting point is 01:33:47 completely honest. I looked at a picture of Pierre Trudeau and I'm like, who the fuck is this guy? And then I looked at a picture of Justin and I was like, he looks like Fidel Castro. I hope it's true. And he doesn't look like his brother. I'd be so happy for him if he found out and he knew. I'm not willing to say that Justin Trudeau is the son of Fidel Castro, but I am willing to say
Starting point is 01:34:04 Fidel Castro is his father figure. Right, but I mean, look at the similarity. Come on. to say that justin trudeau is the son of fidel castro but i am willing to say fidel castro is his father figure right but i mean look at the similarity yeah come on it's so funny it's just an amazing it's so yes that little combination of the third one on the left there that that shows this one it's so funny i don't i don't know i know it may you know it may not be true what i say what you will but it's one of those things where it's just like there's so much so much like it just it just it seems like it could be true it just seems dude come on look have you ever seen the other guy up here he's got that yeah he doesn't know and he's real and that's what i thought i thought in comparison i looked at his i've seen this first it's like okay let's see what his what his what the fuck is this it does not look like justin at all they
Starting point is 01:34:43 look nothing alike yeah that's that's what ultimately made me think is this? That does not look like Justin at all. They look nothing alike. That's what ultimately made me think this is real. And his brothers, right? His brother also doesn't look similar at all. His other boys don't look like Justin Trudeau. It just looks... It's too good to be true. Like father, unlike son.
Starting point is 01:34:59 Winnipeg Free Press. He doesn't have the same... I guess we can say it every way. He looks nothing like his dad. No. He doesn't have the same, like, oh, I don't know. You know, I guess we can say what we want. He doesn't have the same face as he did. He looks nothing like his dad. No. It's, you know. Serge, you look more like him than Justin.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Yeah, that's why I was just there. Seriously. Honestly. Seriously. And at first, like I said, I didn't think it was true. And then I went myself to look up, you know, Pierre Trudeau, Senior Trudeau, and I was like, whoa, there's no way. There's just no way.
Starting point is 01:35:23 I'm looking at Alexandra Trudeau's brother and Michael Trudeau. They look nothing like Justin. I want to tell you something about Alexandra Trudeau. It's so funny. So there were a few Trudeau boys. One of them died tragically in an avalanche. There's Justin and his brother, Alexander, nicknamed Sasha. Michael.
Starting point is 01:35:37 And Alexandra was his foreign affairs policy advisor when he ran for the leadership of the Liberal Party. So he's not nothing. He's an ideas guy. He made a propaganda film called The New Great Game produced by the Islamic Republic of Iran. Now, you want to make a critical movie criticizing the United States, fill your boots. You know, I don't think Oliver Stone would say to the Ayatollahs, can you fund me, produce me, and distribute me? I think he would have more sense than to literally sign a deal with the state of the Islamic
Starting point is 01:36:09 Republic of Iran. And then Alexander Trudeau publishes a book about China. There's 10,000 publishers you could choose. You could self-publish. He signs a contract with the People's Republic of China. He publishes his book about China, from China, getting paid from China. This is the Trudeau family. They love authoritarians. They have no problem doing deals with dictatorships, admiring them. As you may know, when Justin Trudeau was
Starting point is 01:36:39 running for office, he said, China is the country I most admire. They do not look like brothers. No, they really don't. When I was growing up, people asked if me and my brother were twins. We sound almost the same. We look very similar. And then people would be like, oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:36:54 And like, no, he's just only a little bit older than me, like a year and a half older than me. These guys do not look like the same human being at all. I look pretty different than my youngest brother, but that he looks like Castro is why I'm even considering that they're not. Is that
Starting point is 01:37:09 Alexander Trudeau? Yeah. Because I googled it. He does not look like Castro. This guy does. I mean, he looks just like him. They got a little bit similar nose. No, they don't. I mean, they have the same mom. That's our theory. They have some similarity. So there'd be some similarity. Look at their hair.
Starting point is 01:37:25 Look at their hair. Their hair is totally different. My argument here is my dad's an identical twin. So identical twins theoretically have the exact same DNA. So my cousins, through my uncle, look like my half siblings, which I also have half siblings. And we all kind of look the same, right? There is a common parent. So it's not that they don't look anything alike at all.
Starting point is 01:37:43 But theoretically, if they both look like their mom and then also their fathers, these two guys don't end up looking the same. So we would normally on the regular show go to Super Chats and all that stuff at 930. We didn't. So I want to say a few things. What we're going to do is we're going to take the first hour of the show, which is now off YouTube. And we're going to combine this with it. And then we'll put that up on Rumble. That way, everybody can watch the full show and then see where we jump to the point where like,
Starting point is 01:38:10 hey, YouTube sucks. And for those that are watching and new to the site and all that stuff, there is a Discord server that we have set up where you can chat in real time. And the chat is displayed, as you can see on the screen. And we're going to be taking some calls from members of the website. So if you signed up at $10 and you're a member for at least six months, you can get into the VIP chat where you can voice chat. And if you sign up for $25, you instantly bypass the time gate. We did that because we know that far leftists and weirdos and activists will want to come in, spy on the room, post some bullshit, try and get us banned or something like that.
Starting point is 01:38:50 So we had to create some barrier. It's not perfect. Twenty five bucks, not hard for some crackpot to pay just to get in. But it's like we had to create some degree of difficulty, but we didn't want to charge money to people who actually want to be a part of the show. So we were like, OK, so timeGate plus, you know, Optional MoneyGate. And then we have the Elite Club, of course, where we're going to be doing like, you know, elite private meetups and things like that.
Starting point is 01:39:12 There's only like a couple dozen people who signed up for the Elite Club because it's 100 bucks a month. You don't have to sign up if you don't want to. But that's where we're going to be like really trusted, you know, people who want to be active in the community, beta test our apps and programs and hang out, you know, for meet and greets and things like that. So with that being said, if you're new to the website, there's instructions in the menu section on how to get access to the discord and join in and chat with everybody and submit questions for the call and show,
Starting point is 01:39:41 which we will be jumping to right now. And then I will just say this. There's a lot of people who are mad. They're like, you should be on Rumble. Yeah, we've actually been building it out. So I'm just trying, I'm trying not to announce things way too early because a lot of people are like, Tim, you announced things. Where are they? It's like, yeah, we're filing the nonprofit for the fact-checking thing. We've never stopped working on it.
Starting point is 01:40:01 The contractors, I went over plans today for the coffee shop, different sodas, coffee machines, build out, plumbing's going to take a long time. And so a lot of people are just like, stop announcing things, just do it when it happens. And I'm like, fine, I guess. But we are working on setting up cross-streaming for YouTube and Rumble at the same time.
Starting point is 01:40:18 You're all right. I'm done with the bullshit. We don't want to give up on YouTube. We want access to young people who are on the platform but obviously we need to be active on on rumble if we want to have real conversation so there's got at this point youtube's fucked themselves and fuck them so some people are mentioning what crowder does is he puts a delay on the youtube side so if the show gets spicy they mute their youtube stream yep yep fucking working out for It didn't work out for them. It seems like it, so. And then what we can do is
Starting point is 01:40:46 we can make it so that if it starts getting spicy, I'll just press a button that shows like a too spicy for YouTube dancing thing. Yeah. And it'll be like,
Starting point is 01:40:54 we'll have it be like Ian playing the guitar bouncing back and forth. Yeah. And it'll be like, the conversation's now too spicy for YouTube. But if you link to Rumble,
Starting point is 01:41:02 that's when they'll ban you. They'll be like, you're linking off-site. So we'll just put too spicy, too spicy. And then if we think it's, that's when they'll ban you. They'll be like, you're linking off-site. So we'll just put, too spicy, too spicy. And then if we think it's not spicy anymore, we'll switch back. Be like dancing on hot coals. Too hot for TV. Or something like that.
Starting point is 01:41:14 We'll try and figure it out. It's unfortunate, but I didn't want to just not do anything, so we just took it to the members only, where we already had it set up. Thanks for watching this clip from the TimCast IRL podcast. Hang out with us live Monday through Friday at 8pm we already had it set up.

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