Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #745 Twitter BANS "Trans Vengeance" Advocacy After Nashville Shooting w/Kimberly Guilfoyle

Episode Date: March 29, 2023

Tim, Ian, Brett (Pop Culture Crisis), & Serge join Kimberly Guilfoyle to discuss Andy Ngo & The Post Millennial getting suspended on Twitter after sharing a transgender rights poster, Trans groups tre...ating the Nashville school shooter as a martyr, an NBC reporter suggesting the Daily Wire bears responsibility for the Nashville school shooting, & the downfall of Gavin Newsom & California. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We've got interesting news coming out of Twitter. We heard that Marjorie Taylor Greene, Andy Ngo, The Post, and many others had been suspended for calling out what's called the Trans Day of Vengeance. Well, as it turns out, Twitter is actually stating they're banning anyone promoting it. And because they had to manually go through and remove all of these, some people got mixed up with those who were actually promoting it when they were calling it out. This is the problem with social media censorship. It's been the problem the whole time. You catch everyone regardless of context. And we can't function that way. But the big story here is the active calls for a day of vengeance. Considering what happened just the other day, it is rather shocking that there are still people
Starting point is 00:01:01 online actively calling for more. In fact, some advocacy groups are telling people to take up arms and get prepared. They're using this as a rallying cry. So we'll get into all of that and we'll talk about it. But for those that are wondering about yesterday's episode, yesterday's episode is fully available on our Rumble page at rumble.com. I think it's what rumble.com slash Tim cast IRL. Yeah, it's there. It's if you're wondering where the show went, it's there. And for people wondering why we're not on rumble, that episode is as well as many other episodes that, you know, for for the sake of clarity, I suppose I can only tell you to watch that episode in entirety. And you'll understand why it's on rumble instead of YouTube. Because of YouTube's rules, we are not going to be able to explain it on YouTube, hence the problem.
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Starting point is 00:04:58 get access to the VIP chat room. Otherwise it's 25 bucks so that we can create some kind of gatekeeping to keep out bad people and bad actors i wish it wasn't that way but that's the way we have to do it because we have had bad actors come in try and get us banned with that being said don't forget to smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends and joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is the lovely kimberly guilfoyle hi uh so good to be here this is very cool we're excited to have you yeah it's nice to be here in person versus just watching it online. And it's like a whole thing coming together. I feel like I'm in the matrix right now. I'm just going to go with that.
Starting point is 00:05:31 All right. Well, for those that aren't familiar, who are you and what do you do? Who am I? Right? That's a really good existential question. So Kimberly Guilfoyle, and you probably, well, some of you may have, or if not, whatever. I'm from television. I'm a former prosecutor and then went to New York and signed with a bunch of networks. I was on ABC News, Good Morning America, exclusive to them in the morning. Court TV, my own show covering all the big legal cases because I'm a former prosecutor from San Francisco and Los Angeles, district attorney's office, and then exclusive to CNN at night with Anderson Cooper and Larry King
Starting point is 00:06:07 before CNN went totally woke and broke. And then went over to Fox News and served there amazingly for like 12 years, helped launch The Five, outnumbered 10 New Year's Eve shows I hosted. I've hosted everything from Fox and Friends to all the primetime shows as well, and then served as senior advisor to the 45th President of the United States, and also the national finance chair for the 2020 election. Wow, that's a lot. And a former special education teacher and a former model. I like jobs. I think we'll need to get into this point at which the culture split completely.
Starting point is 00:06:46 And you're mentioning being at CNN before they got woke and went broke. Yeah. So I'll be – we should definitely talk about that later in the show, that point at which the split started to occur and when you started to see it. Because you're actively working in these media companies when it's – It's fascinating to be in those newsrooms and to be in those management meetings and discussions and, you know, discussing the editorial, what's going to be in the rundown of the shows, what are we going to cover, what are we not going to cover? It's very interesting to see how this just evolved over time. And I had Steve Cracker on my show, who did a book called recently called Uncovered and talked all about
Starting point is 00:07:19 what was going on in the newsrooms. He had worked at CNN, as well, and just sort of the metamorphosis covering everything between COVID and the pandemics, the 2016 election, the 2020 election, and how that all has really just shaped what we've seen from my corporate media. Right on. This will be fun. So thanks for hanging out.
Starting point is 00:07:36 We also got Brett Dasavik from Pop Culture Crisis hanging out. What is going on, guys? Yes, I do host Pop Culture Crisis. My resume is not quite that long, but Monday through Friday at 3 p.m. we do discuss pop culture, movies and television, Hollywood. And a lot of times that is, unfortunately, where Hollywood, politics and culture all seem to intersect. So it does kind of cross over into the sphere.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Happy to be here. Hi, everyone. Ian Crossland here. And thank you for making noise about the Restrict Act, this nonsense act that the House of Representatives has put into the Senate. So I've seen a lot of noise about the restrict act this nonsense act that the house of uh house of representatives was put into the senate so i've seen a lot of noise about it it is the patriot act of technology we need to shut it down now before it gets out of hand thank you and let's keep this moving we also have serge duprea yes i am serge.com pleasure to see you guys uh let's uh start the show shall we here's the first story we have from the Post Millennial. Breaking Andy Ngo.
Starting point is 00:08:25 The Post Millennial prominent conservatives locked out of Twitter after reporting on Trans Day of Vengeance. They have this image here. It says, remove tweet violating our rules against violent speech. You may not share abusive content, harass someone, or encourage other people to do so. This is a post from the Post Millennial on Twitter that said radical trans activists and a D.C. Antifa group are organizing a trans day of vengeance protest, and they've blurred the day and the location because Twitter is cracking down. Now, I saw initial reporting that Marjorie Taylor Greene had been suspended for calling it out, and the initial assumption was that people who were reporting on this and criticizing it were getting suspended. They were. But what Twitter claims to have been trying to do,
Starting point is 00:09:08 I think I might have the tweet here. This is Ella Irwin responding to Ian Miles Chong saying, Ian Miles Chong tweets, Twitter is now cracking down on those who promote the trans day of vengeance poster, which mostly comprises of trans militants who are calling for a day of mass violence. Do not share the poster or you could be caught up in the bans to prevent mass violence from happening. Ella Irwin responds, correct. We had to automatically sweep our platform and remove more than 5,000 tweets and retweets of this poster. We do not support tweets that incite violence, irrespective of who posts them. Vengeance does not imply peaceful protest.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Organizing to support a peaceful protest is okay. This is fascinating. This is absolutely fascinating because for one, we're still seeing a problem of contextless censorship. You know, criticizing this is not the same as promoting it, but the automated censorship can't track that. But more importantly, when I went on Rogan's show all those years ago with Dorsey and Vijay
Starting point is 00:10:05 Gade, I specifically highlighted leftist violence. Incitement to violence was being allowed on the platform. Meanwhile, people on the right were being banned. Now Twitter is actually cracking down and removing left wing calls for extreme violence. I wonder if this is an inflection point. Yeah, it's really interesting, fascinating to see how this has evolved and who's to credit for it. You know, Elon Musk, I guess, or some of the new teams that are in there trying to crack down. But it's interesting because we see people like MTG, Andy Ngo, they're hitting them, but only
Starting point is 00:10:36 because they put it out there to highlight it, that this is improper to call for trans vengeance and violence like this, which is you should have a right to be able to call it out and say this is improper this is dangerous it doesn't you know belong here you know in society but that then they try to go back and say no no no no no we just don't want anything suggesting violence not even anyone criticizing the people who are calling for violence i'm not mad at twitter about this one though i they corrected it yeah they've restored the accounts they did an automatic sweep i i'm actually curious ian's perspective because you you moderated for mines yeah so i'm wondering i mean if you're watching far-left extremists or far-right extremists for that matter thousands of accounts promoting a day
Starting point is 00:11:20 of mass violence what do you do i think they did the right thing too because it's like if someone posts child pornography on Twitter and then other people like retweeting it and saying, look how gross this is. You're still complicit in proliferating child porn at that point. So I understand what they did. They had to rip out the roots. And if you were hanging on the tree branches, you're going to fall down when that tree comes out.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Well, they did the right thing by reinstating the accounts. Right. I agree. It's a little bit more than I would say. I'd say you should be allowed to report on it. You should be, as a reporter, allowed to share this and say, look what they're calling for. You need to know this. Because if you live in D.C., I think it's very important you see who and what who's sharing it and what's being shared. It's a constant struggle in the administration ship of social media is how do you report on images and imagery that violates the terms
Starting point is 00:12:07 because you can't show it you're violating the terms if you show me you can but you're violating the terms to show it you can blur it out but
Starting point is 00:12:14 they're not really showing it so no one knows what you're reporting on right but then is that censorship it's definitely a form of censorship well not
Starting point is 00:12:19 that's the quandary not all censorship is bad okay yeah if someone posts like like Ian mentioned child porn you, you want censors to catch that and get rid of it and then refer it to the police. Yeah, well, that's a crime. Right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:33 And so the problem is what we often end up seeing from these big social platforms is protection for left-wing extremist ideology. And then they ban a conservative saying, learn to code. Now, my attitude here is, okay, well, it sucks that Andy Marjorie, TPM and others got suspended. Twitter did reinstate it. But my view is if all of these far left extremists are calling for and what is it? It's this Saturday. They were calling for a weekend mass violent wave, considering what just happened the other
Starting point is 00:13:01 day with that trans mass shooter. Yeah, Twitter's like we gotta get this off the platform now so it's a challenge of if you're reporting on it you shouldn't get censored for reporting on it but if you get caught up in a mass sweep to eliminate extremism and then get reinstated it's it's unfortunate i'm not gonna cry about it it's kind of like a reporter standing on the side of the street while there's a riot and they're recording it and the cops are like, get out of here. And they grab the reporter with everyone else.
Starting point is 00:13:29 They arrest the reporter. Then they let him go. That's actually a fair point. Like drug sweeps when people get pulled up for in police raids and then some people are there who aren't actually there legally committing any crimes. And then hopefully if done properly, they're released upon finding out that they're not actually guilty of anything, whether that's possession of some type of substance or a weapon or anything like that. So it feels more like something like that.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Also, I did want to ask, is this connected directly to the image that they're posting or is it keyword search with hashtags? I think it's the image. Okay. But I will stress this. As much as, look, I don't want anybody who's calling this out and criticizing it to get suspended. This is, suspension should not be the image. It should be the call for, for the action. And so Marjorie Taylor Greene has two tweets.
Starting point is 00:14:14 We can see right here, the tweet violated the Twitter rules. They're both removed. They shouldn't be. And it looks like she got a third one that was removed as well. Four. It looks like there are four tweets that have been removed, probably because she was saying, hey, this is bad. They should be restored. You should be allowed to share the image. It's then call for violence. Well, it's like she's trying to call out something that is a call for violence that can be,
Starting point is 00:14:36 you know, potential like criminal conduct that also, in my opinion, presents an issue and a real threat to public safety. So when you think about it, I would want to know if I'm living in that area that there's going to be this trans vengeance situation, call for violence, no offense, as a public safety issue. If I'm going down the street, if I'm going somewhere, I want to know what's actually going on and be alerted to it in my community. That's the other problem I have just with my background and understanding how these things happen. Someone be walking into that they don't know what's going on i would want to be it's almost like a virtual or social media community policing where their people are putting it out there hey fyi look out for this this is what's going to happen in the neighborhood
Starting point is 00:15:18 you should be aware of what's happening in your community i don't want to have like you know a mask over my eyes, cover my eyes, cover my ears and not know what's going on around me. I actually do want to be informed. So there's that as well with getting the message out. And I know you have to think about that. You're a prosecutor. Yes. How would you handle people? I mean, there's thousands of people posting this call for violence. I mean, what would you do? Yeah, I mean, I think it's a real problem, the call for violence. But since it's actually an event that is going to take place, then you also, I believe, have a responsibility to let people know and to be aware of it. And then if you're a prosecutor in law enforcement, etc, you want
Starting point is 00:15:58 to try to control the situation, mitigate the damage, the threat to public safety, mitigate the threat of personal injury or harm to people, of riots, of creating an unsafe situation, which we have seen happen over and over again with the call for situations like this, whether it's Ferguson or, you know, with the hands up, don't shoot, which then turned out to not have, you know, happened. But they said, well, it was important to call this out. I'm telling you, it goes on from here and there, and then this is the same situation, but people want to be a little bit more sensitive to it because it involves trans issues.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Like, no, I don't care who you are, how you identify, who you sleep with. You don't have a right to commit violence that injures the community and causes harm to other human beings. That is not a right that you have. So here's the challenge. The poster doesn't explicitly call for violence.
Starting point is 00:16:47 It calls for vengeance, right? Well, it's got enough buzzwords for people to figure it out. Do you think you could or should prosecute someone for creating this and calling for this and posting it on the internet? No, but that's criminal versus civilly.
Starting point is 00:17:01 So put it this way. If it's something where there's like a threat of violence, we call them terrorist threats, but that's just the name on the penal code for a lot of this, which is if you threaten the life of somebody and say, you know, I'm going to do this or that, cause, you know, harm to someone and you threaten them, you're not allowed to do that. Okay. And that can rise to the level of a felony. But so, but this will say, well, this is just a, you know, a poster calling for people to meet peacefully. That's how they'll sugarcoat it.
Starting point is 00:17:28 However, the people behind it, if ultimately that event takes place and someone does get injured or harmed, then you're looking at a civil forum where someone can come in and sue the people who threw the event, et cetera, which, by the way, we saw with January 6th, right? So, okay, how did that start?
Starting point is 00:17:46 Who threw it? People went. Who was injured? Lawsuits ensued. And it's in the courts, a lot of it right now. Even using language like vengeance, isn't that just neo-Marxist behavior, right? To just use vague language, which they can manipulate at any time that they want to mean whatever they want, because it's vague, and it doesn't actually have any type of implement uh like implication to it but we know what it
Starting point is 00:18:08 means well we know what it means because there's rifles on the picture next to the word vengeance i mean even that like but that would come up in court and yeah and it's the image that we're talking about especially with the image just following what happened in nashville yeah with these these these poor children and these faculty members. There is a clear understanding of what that poster means. There's context. There's context out in the news and the media, socially, et cetera. So people put it together. Well, here's the crazy thing is that trans advocacy groups are still pushing.
Starting point is 00:18:38 They're saying, get ready. They're telling people to take up guns and prepare for a fight after everything that just happened. It's so insane to me that you would think that because in order to stop the government telling people to take up guns and prepare for a fight after everything that just happened. It's so insane to me that you would think that because in order to stop the government from harming children, you're going to hurt children. Like that's what this girl did yesterday. She shot up six people, three kids, three nine-year-olds because she was afraid that the government was, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:59 I don't know her intentions actually. I've seen text of, she said she was suicidal, could be fake text. I don't know. I don't know how many hormones and drugs.'ve seen text of she said she was suicidal. Could be fake text. I don't know. I don't know how many hormones and drugs. DMing her friend and et cetera. Yeah. But that you think that killing people is going to saw is going to protect you from the government killing people.
Starting point is 00:19:13 It doesn't make a lot of sense. That's not what they're saying, though. This is an ideological battle. They are looking at, look at the rhetoric around Christians and what they think of Christians. And it's kind of clear why this person did this. And it's scary. But let me pull up this next story we have from the Postmillennial. The Postmillennial reports, quote,
Starting point is 00:19:34 hate has consequences. Trans group mourns death of Nashville trans mass killer. The second and more complex tragedy is that Aiden or Aubrey Hale, who felt he had no other effective way to be seen than to lash out by taking the life of others. This tweet says, prepare to defend yourself. This weekend has already provided us two crystal clear reasons why we need to be prepared to defend ourselves at a moment's notice against Nazis and fascists. I don't want to read too much more into this for obvious reasons, because we're talking about the lengths they're going to advocate for more violence. But that post outright said this weekend, get ready.
Starting point is 00:20:12 And they're calling it defending yourself. This is what they do. The far left extremists go around smashing windows and throwing firebombs. And then when the police try to arrest them, they say they're allowed to defend themselves. They call the torching of buildings and the beating of people in the streets self-defense. That's what they're doing now with this. I'm worried about what's going to happen this weekend. So I would only say if you are in the D.C. area, you need to be be extra careful, be prepared. I don't know. I'm
Starting point is 00:20:40 not going to give any advice. Me personally, if I was in D.C., I'd get for the weekend. Yeah, no kidding. But why not? You know, err on the side of caution. But I want to say something. This to me, the parallels are just it's unbelievable. If you look at the juxtaposition just even between, you know, BLM and the whole deal, the justified right to violence that they assume and mischaracterize as self-defense. It's BLM. It's Antifa, it's all the same nonsense. And they hide behind their rhetoric and their rights that they say that they have against everyone else,
Starting point is 00:21:13 that they are allowed to engage in violence, that they are allowed to loot, to shoot, to harm, to injure, to destroy communities, destroy property, and it's out of control and it's got to stop. And this is just another manifestation of those movements now being expressed in the trans movement you know another manifestation of that behavior i think is nato or the way that nato's been behaving by putting military bases right on the border of countries and then if the countries get upset and invade they're like you're
Starting point is 00:21:40 the dude you you can't put turrets in front of someone's front door and expect that you're the dude you you can't put turrets in front of someone's front door and expect that you're the one that's under attack when they blow up your turret right like reasonable response i yeah they attacked your turret that was attacking their space by encroaching on it so like if you you can't that's just this whole playing getting up in a cop's face pushing or like you know getting them to push you and then claiming you're a victim you got up in the guy's face god i hate that if any videos come out this weekend i urge everyone to pay very close attention to when that video starts. Look for the editing that usually comes to manipulate how an interaction started between law enforcement. That's always the first thing you should pay attention to,
Starting point is 00:22:17 because it speaks to their desire to push you, push you, push you until you do something back, and then they have the weapon they need. During Occupy Wall Street, there was a viral video that showed several police officers striking protesters and one cop was swinging his baton like a baseball bat. The occupiers made a propaganda video where they turned the baton into a lightsaber to make it funny and memeable. And it was it was clever. And then someone later released the full footage showing
Starting point is 00:22:45 the protesters attacking the police first, shaking a barricade, trying to knock it over. And then one person hits the head of the cop, knocking his head off. And then the cop pulls the baton sideways, starts pushing him back. They start hitting the cop back, and then he starts swinging the baton. They cut that out to make it look like it's just the cops swinging at these people. And the funny thing about all this is they started saying, because of my live streams, you can't edit this. You can't fake it. It's raw.
Starting point is 00:23:09 It's live. Here's what they do. They would watch my live stream. And then when they did bad things, they'd remain quiet. And then the moment the police attacked, they would take the link, tweet it out, police attack innocent protesters. Because anybody who tuned in at that moment would only see the police attacking protesters.
Starting point is 00:23:28 There's so many ways to lie to people through, whether it's articles written, like lie by structure where all the important information comes in the last paragraph of an article that's five paragraphs long.
Starting point is 00:23:41 In media, whether it's audio, visual, there's 10,000 more ways to lie without actually lying have you seen what reuters reported about the shooting former christian school student shoots up uh church and school oh yeah none of the headlines uh none of the headlines had any of the pertinent facts in any of the any of the millions lie by structure i would like though with this shooting with this mass murder by audreyale, just to remember, just to leave the ideology out of it, if you can. It's not about transgenderism.
Starting point is 00:24:08 It's about an adult that's drugged up, most likely drugged up, and made to be crazy by her parents or by her community or whatever. Mental health issues and perhaps exacerbated by her environment or home runs or whatever. We don't know, but we'd like to actually find out the facts. Yes, and don't blame transgender people for this stupid woman's behavior. Like, she's a psycho murderer. That's a person. That's just a...
Starting point is 00:24:30 Put that on Audrey. She did that. Nor should this be leading to any legislation to take away gun rights, in my opinion, because that's going to be a trap people are going to fall into because they're going to start seeing this as a way to start taking away gun rights,
Starting point is 00:24:41 and I don't think that's the right thing to do. No, she didn't get the... I don't... I mean, was she... Sorry. No, no, no. I don't know how she got those guns was she legally get those guns what's the story there i don't know i don't know they said locally source that's all i've all i've yeah that a number of guns were like purchased in addition to the um two rifles there was the one handgun that she had present on her person at the time when she
Starting point is 00:25:02 engaged with the officers who responded to the scene. And there were some reports that people are verifying now as to whether or not there were additional guns that were, you know, procured. But let me tell you something, like if you get a gun, you get it legally, okay, there are background checks, there is that. The answer isn't to say, oh, we're going to suspend, you know, rifles or guns, etc. It's like, the people who pick them up are the ones that are making these choices that are doing this to engage in that behavior. How about actually caring more about protecting soft targets and children in schools
Starting point is 00:25:33 because this keeps happening because it is a vulnerable asset for someone seeking to do harm and take life. They're not doing it other places where they actually have armed security and guards. I mean, look at every single instance of this. So when the people say to me, oh, well, you know, this is the problem because the person had guns and they went in there and blah, blah, blah, blah, and don't you love children enough to actually stop and ban these? I love children enough to
Starting point is 00:25:57 have like retired military veterans, et cetera, retired law enforcement come in that would like another job after they retire go in there to protect children bring in canine dogs etc and harden the target then it makes it less desirable i know this i was on the shooting team officer involved shooting team at any time an officer had to discharge a weapon and someone was killed at the scene etc i had to come and investigate and clear the shooting so i've seen it i been there. I've run all the courses myself personally with weapons, a simulator for school shootings, for everything, for preparedness, for officers to go in. OK, and that's what we also need to do.
Starting point is 00:26:35 But unless we're willing to make these tough decisions and actually decide that children shouldn't be collateral damage, people who choose to educate children should not be allowed to be collateral damage, then you're going to see stuff like this happen. Because evil like this is going to follow the path of least resistance. They will go into that school. They will try to take lives. And there's reports that this person went, oh, no, but there was somebody there with security, so then went back over to this school. Come on it out. Like, look at the facts and stop being like a hysterical, you know, imbecile saying that the gun did it. Like, okay, well, how about people that get on a train
Starting point is 00:27:12 and they have knives or they have whatever and they're causing harm and stabbing people, killing people, like, that's what happens. And I've seen it over and over again for, you know, 20 plus years of like investigating these cases. Well, you can try banning knives like they did in the uk but then people get screwdrivers have you seen that great picture of like the the uk cops you know the american law enforcement they stand in front of the thing of guns and drugs and the uk cops are in front of a bunch of like butter knives
Starting point is 00:27:36 it's a plastic scissors but here's the other thing like right now they control the narrative so well like if you go to whether it's any celebrity that's talking about this it immediately went to gun control Immediately like within less than a half a day. They were talking about gun control and the the narrative has already shifted I remember somebody did before like after Valdi talked about what it would cost To get armed security at every school in America and it was like $5 billion or something like that. Right after we spent $50 billion, sent $50 billion to Ukraine. It just proves to you
Starting point is 00:28:09 who the hell they care about, which is not us. We've got to secure Ukraine. Is that like one guard per building? Because there's like 40 entrances in some of these schools. I think the math that they did on it was like three.
Starting point is 00:28:20 It was like three at the average salary. I think three is better than zero. I think arming better than zero. I think arming the teachers is one way to go. Or we can give it to Zelensky. That's fine. We'll just give it to Zelensky. Or allowing teachers to arm themselves.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Well, some schools have allowed that, right? I'm not so sure arming teachers is the appropriate response. I think teachers should be allowed to be armed, but I think armed security makes the most sense. But also there's plenty of volunteers. If you're just saying, okay, this is going to cost many billions of dollars, it's just a very reflexive response that I think is just, you know, soft work. It's not actually smart in terms of actually analyzing
Starting point is 00:28:54 what the, you know, economic cost might be, you know, versus actually, you know, the loss of life. But these are the same people that say, you know, it's okay to abort your baby after it's born, if you get what I'm saying. And I've sat in those courtrooms too with Dr.il gosselin the maniac out of philadelphia that was literally drowning uh children babies in the toilet after they were born alive so you know these are the same people like you know championing those causes it's it's never too much if it's
Starting point is 00:29:18 ukraine if it's uh to promote you know the murder of uh innocent children and babies and you know what too much money if we have to actually protect our children, you know, in schools. And by the way, like I said, the educators, there's educators there, there was a head of the school, whether it's someone who's like the janitor, the teacher, the maintenance guy, like human beings, like devoting themselves, my mother was a teacher, I've worked as a teacher, I've worked in some really crazy, like in schools in San Francisco that had a lot of like, you know, people that had problems
Starting point is 00:29:46 with like juvenile crime and whatnot. But you know, there's some schools in certain areas that got metal detectors. But like don't be the person that sits there
Starting point is 00:29:53 with your abacus and you're deciding and playing with human beings' lives and children's lives. To me, that's cowardice. When we're talking about gun control,
Starting point is 00:30:02 it's a little bit of an abacus. Speaking of abacus, I have one right here. I know. I had one earlier. It I know. I admire that. It's made of jade. Tim, you tweeted out yesterday, should we consider banning people that have a history of hurting themselves? I didn't suggest anything.
Starting point is 00:30:14 I said, should people who have a mental disorder associated with a high rate of self-harm be barred from owning guns? I immediately clicked no. Most people said yes. Yeah, like 80 plus percent were like, yes. It could be just an emotional reaction to yesterday. I think it is. Don't you think? Isn't that what it is?
Starting point is 00:30:28 It's sort of an emotional visceral reaction to what you see and like getting tired emotionally as a human being because you care of seeing the same thing happen over and over again. And you want to come up with a solution. Well, so the issue at hand for a lot of people is that this individual clearly was suffering from some kind of mental distress. What do you think? I think the individual clearly. Well, it's a fact that this individual clearly was suffering from some kind of mental distress. What do you think? I think the individual clearly, well, it's a fact that the individual was diagnosed, and I think that's what's been reported, with depression, anxiety, gender dysphoria, things of that nature. I don't know if I care if someone has a mental illness. I don't think Second Amendment allows for you to bar them
Starting point is 00:31:05 from owning guns. Someone could be outright schizophrenic. There would have to be a due process adjudication. And after due process, your rights can be curtailed, right? You can be locked in a box after due process. You can have your right to a gun taken away after due process. So in that capacity, we have to recognize the challenge. A lot of people said,
Starting point is 00:31:26 I don't think we should ban guns in this way because they will just pathologize conservative thought. And I'm like, well, yes, they could. And then they will create a court system with the judges they appoint to adjudicate this and give you quote unquote due process.
Starting point is 00:31:39 So it'll happen no matter what, with or without the Bill of Rights. Wait, didn't they add masculinity to the DSM recently? So eventually. DSM-5. Was that really? Yeah, DSM-5, access to diagnosis. Or something like that.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Toxic masculinity. I could be misremembering that. I thought somebody said that they added masculinity to the DSM. So maybe at one point, anyone who wants to own a gun anyways would be seen as somehow masculine or toxically masculine to them so the story was in 2019 they called traditional masculine masculinity harmful and faced an uproar but i don't know if it was added to the dsm-5 or anything they'll make the dsm-6 wouldn't it yeah i don't um i'm concerned with the new version of the update by the way that's the letter on the access to diagnoses of the different disorders that one can have,
Starting point is 00:32:27 you know, multiple. What was the first thing you said? That's the language way that they get you to. Remember, it used to be toxic masculinity. Now it's not that. Now it's just traditional masculinity. And eventually it'll just be masculinity at all. Yeah, I don't think it'll just be men.
Starting point is 00:32:40 You can't use a potential to harm yourself as a reason to strip people's rights. Because someone go online and be like, this sucks man i hate myself and then they'll be like oh go strip him of his rights he's a date i don't know i disagree 51 50 yeah but you can go online and complain about how horrible things are they're not but a judge has to sign off on a warrant if you express something uh if you create you've created this uh if you present a clear and imminent threat to yourself or others, 51-50. They can 51-50 you then. So just because someone is diagnosed with something doesn't mean they are a clear and present danger to themselves or anyone else.
Starting point is 00:33:15 So I do think for someone like this or anyone, the challenge here is the red flag laws. If someone can go and petition the government to file some kind of claim against you to take your weapons, here's the only thing I have against it. It's non-adversarial. If someone calls up a court and says, I believe Tim Pool is a risk to himself or others, they can serve me a notice, and then I'll have my lawyer answer it, and they can screw off because they need probable cause proof and due process before they can deprive me of my rights. But what these red flag laws do is they show up to your house and say, doesn't matter. A judge said so. No, that doesn't work. That's not adversarial.
Starting point is 00:33:51 The accused has a right to defend themselves in due process. But that also, you're a thousand percent right. And I think it's very disconcerting because we've seen this abuse of process, this lack of due process. And what we have seen recently recently just saying the weaponization of not only the political system but of the judicial system you have activists judges on the bench i don't care what side you're on the point is it exists and you also have to be careful who you get in front of i know as a prosecutor every time we'd be like oh geez
Starting point is 00:34:21 you're gonna get in front of you know i knew I knew if I was going to try a case in Norwalk, California, they called it no walk. Because the judges there were like, oh, hell no. They dropped a bomb on you. But then there was other ones. It was like, nothing to see here, folks. We can't even identify the individual here. Has 17 aliases. We don't know who they are.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Mike, how about we fingerprint them and run them through the system? Next thing you know, they're boom, out the door, and they're out. That's what's happening in New York now. So it all depends. And where you have these weapon weaponized like district attorney's offices you know when i was at la da's office and even san francisco was more liberal it wasn't like that but now we have like gas you know this whole like soros like funding to all these different guys that are very like weaponized activists and you trace you follow the money you see who's
Starting point is 00:35:01 supported who's made donations to them and then you're the person that has an accusation against you and you would appear in front of that judge or you appear in front of that da you know with a case it's it's gotten very complicated put it that way it will also price out people who are poorer right because they can't afford good legal counsel that's always been the case the public you get the public defender's office. But there's some great public defenders out there, God bless. They've tried a lot of cases,
Starting point is 00:35:29 but that's roulette. That's roulette. You never know what you're going to get. You think there's a way to balance out the justice system judiciously with a court of judges? I think having one judge with all that power, like you're explaining,
Starting point is 00:35:42 they can fall. And also lifetime appointments is another situation with some of them, with the federal judges and whatnot. So it's pretty scary because those people get entrenched in there and they have these different mission objectives. Like before we used to say the Court of Appeals, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeal was like where all justice went to die because they just had such an activist agenda. And then Trump started reporting some other judges there to like balance it out. So people actually listen to the cases versus just like rubber stamping no buy. I want to I want to jump to this next story here from the Postmillennial.
Starting point is 00:36:16 We got a lot of Postmillennial stories today. FBI's former top profiler warns of potential for contagious copycat crimes in Nashville after school shooting. Following such a shooting, O'Toole said that communities should remain on alert for up to two weeks due to the potential for copycats. Quote, in 2000, when the FBI released its first report on school shooters, we found that the copycat influence was powerful and it influenced the 18 cases that we studied. This report was compiled in the wake of the Columbine High School shooting, which claimed the lives of 13 people. O'Toole said that she believed the shooter's manifesto
Starting point is 00:36:51 should not be released in that case over fears of the contagion effect. Now, that's a fair point. Oh, I agree. But I also want to know what's in the manifesto because if... But they're censoring it now. Right. People can't see it. Oh, we're conducting our
Starting point is 00:37:05 investigation but no offense trust me part of that is they don't want you to know so they'll say that just like when all the pictures emerged you know of her it's like oh take him down when they said oh identifies as you know he him and they started taking him down one after the next people were screen shooting him to preserve it so the public could actually see before they could shapeshift the narrative. Well, here's the debate. If this manifesto comes out and many of these far leftists agree with it, yeah, it could be this manifesto could be a direct call to incitement. It probably is direct call to violence. So if it is, and I assume it is, should it be released? The alternative is we I think we need to know what motivated this so we can stop it from happening again.
Starting point is 00:37:51 You're a thousand percent correct. I was literally just going to say that. How can you stop and prevent something from happening in the future if you don't understand it and identify it and study it? I mean, it's just, you know, that's like blissful ignorance going to end in a fatal conclusion. My concern with the manifesto being released is that it would be doctored and then sent out with a political agenda. I mean, no one, there's no way to trust a document that we see now. Like,
Starting point is 00:38:19 I can't, I don't want it. I don't want it. Look at the video footage if you want to see why, what she was doing. And let's get her medical history now. She no longer has her rights. She waived those rights to medical privacy after she killed all those people. I agree. I think if they're not going to release the manifesto and they're going to cite copycat fears, I'm fine with it. I will then choose to assume the motivations, and I think it's fairly obvious. So unless they want to present any evidence to the contrary, this is clearly a far leftist gender ideologue who killed Christians because Christians are trying to stop the mutilation of children. Hate crime.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Yeah, well, even then it won't matter because it'll be called gender affirming care, and it won't matter because people, the average person who's uninitiated to what's going on in the world right now will see the christians as aggressors in a lot of these cases because they're going to say you're trying to prevent these kids like you really do have to be steeped in not just the ideology but the political ramifications of all this together otherwise it really does because of the how intricately the media is able to weave these stories together they will come out looking like the bad guys and if they can't the media will just stop reporting on it
Starting point is 00:39:25 like they always do. If you let yourself play identity here, it'll get used against you. You need to focus on the drug use of this kid, this 28-year-old woman. Right. And how long she's been on drugs. Has she been on since she was 14?
Starting point is 00:39:38 That's the focus. Pharmaceuticals. Is that proven here? I don't know. I haven't seen a quip about what chemicals she was using. Okay. I mean, without knowing that, I would have to know that for sure if that was actually part of it.
Starting point is 00:39:50 If she's trans, there's a chance that she's on testosterone. Okay. That she was actually doing the chemical process. Yeah. I mean, where's the news? Where I want to know. That's never going to come out. Sponsored by who?
Starting point is 00:40:00 Who's sponsoring this? Who sponsors the networks that are reporting on this? But that's another thing about medical safety and getting information out there. Because if there's people right now being really severely manipulated into being like, oh, who am I? Am I binary? Am I this? Am I he, she, my pronouns?
Starting point is 00:40:17 All this stuff. It's mind-blowing to me how quickly this has happened. And you see a story like this, no offense, you're thinking twice about all of this. I've got to become this person, that person. You hear all the horror stories of people like regretting that they're pushed into this, whether it's by abusive parents, like the book that you mentioned, Tim, genderqueer, going through that, growing up in an abusive environment and just questioning your identity or it's bad to be a woman or it's bad to be a man toxic masculinity people then no one wants to be a man now i want to be a woman oh it's terrible to be a woman now i want to be a man i mean it's insane the back and forth and
Starting point is 00:40:54 back and forth if you see a situation like this hopefully people are going to say wait i want to read about this i want to understand and maybe it gives you some reflection personal reflection in your life about the choices that you're making and how you're being duped and totally brainwashed by this, you know, by the media and by these groups that actually are trying to literally identify what you might be, despite what you're born, you know, at birth and teaching people in hospitals to identify well this person may be binary this baby that's like three minutes old or it may be uh a man instead or a boy instead of a girl like how is this even happening this is what they're educating people about yeah i want to give you a little life hack society's gonna tell you what they think you are you get to tell society what you are real quick the the hill in the new york times and many others are reporting the shooter was under doctor's care for an emotional disorder but they did not disclose the specific treatment okay so i don't know what's the legal what's the like the legality of if a
Starting point is 00:41:50 murderer waves do they waive their rights even a dead murder do they have rights yeah i mean like yeah what is their uh right to privacy now that they've committed a heinous horrific crime by the way not open to speculation caught on video not like this isn't a whodunit we know who did it the person died at the scene officers responded now we're getting this information the public has a right to know there should be transparency here for the purpose of public education to know what transpired here because otherwise they'll continue to lie and tell us it's this this this this and try to you know modify shape-shift the whole narrative so that it's this, this, this, this, and try to, you know, modify, shapeshift the whole narrative so that it's something that suits their ultimate ideological, you know, pathway and end
Starting point is 00:42:30 game. And that's why I have a problem with it. I want to know the facts. I want to know the facts. I want to know the facts. I want to know what's actually in the manifesto. I understand, I guess, I have a great concern about, you know, public safety or copycats and encouraging this. And, you know, I had a lot of colleagues, you know, at Fox's say, and one of my great colleagues, a great friend of mine, Greg Gutfeld says, if you continue to report and do this, it makes highlights for copycats and it encourages people to go out there and repeat these crimes if we're giving it energy, if we're giving it life and breathing into it all the time. But there has to be a balance between responsible reporting
Starting point is 00:43:06 to not encourage it and create copycats and also allowing the public to have a right to know the facts, etc., because rightfully so, we have become distrustful of the corporate media and the narrative that they push on us every single day, which, by the way, they have proved to not be trustworthy when we find out time and time again that what they told us was bold-faced lies.
Starting point is 00:43:30 And that's what I want to stop in this country because this is America. We should be able to know. It's not North Korea or China or Russia. Is there a precedent for a dead murderer, like their privacy being like, okay, now that this person's committed the crime, they're dead.
Starting point is 00:43:44 We're going to autopsy them. We're going to find out all their medical records. Is there? Yeah, okay, now that this person's committed the crime, they're dead. We're going to autopsy them. We're going to find out all their medical records. Is there? Yeah. Well, put it this way. Say, for example, this was a case where the perpetrator was not DOA, dead on arrival, killed on scene, officer in track, and blah, blah, blah. Then you would say this is an ongoing investigation. And because of that, we cannot release this information because it would jeopardize the, you know, the nature of our investigation, the legitimacy of it, and our ability to be able
Starting point is 00:44:11 to catch the ultimate perpetrator and bring them to justice. You don't have that here. And to your point, that's what you're saying. You have someone who we actually know who committed it. And now we actually need to know why, how, how this transpired, who else knew there was an issue, what kind of, you know, culpable responsibility there is in order to actually make sure this doesn't happen again. Otherwise, you're going to see the same thing. It's going to be, you know, Parkland. It's going to be Uvalde. It's going to be Waukesha. It's going to be all of these things over and over again without having an understanding that leads towards prevention
Starting point is 00:44:45 and protection of public safety. Who would we petition to get these medical records? I love it. It's on the case. I love it. Well, you know, I'll tell you what. How about the power of subpoena that Congress has? You've seen this right now. You see it with Jim Jordan and the rest of them in Congress that are calling for transparency. They have the power of subpoena to be able to bring people forward, whether it's the D.A. Alvin Bragg to understand what he's doing with the weaponization politicization of the office or whether it's the Twitter files and all the different investigations they have going on. They're saying we actually want the information. We want the information.
Starting point is 00:45:21 They could call for that here as well and say, we want to make sure we're going to subpoena. We want to know exactly what the hell happened here. We want to know what's in the manifesto. We want to know what you guys are hiding from us. And we, the people and who we represent, have a right to know with the power of subpoena. You will be forced to comply with it. No one is above the law, whether you're a DA, you're a judge, you're the lead officer investigating this, et cetera. You could subpoena the doctor that was on that she was you could try
Starting point is 00:45:49 why not and let's see what kind of privacy protections but you should and you should say what's going on here now of course the doctor is going to be afraid about personal liability etc did they know something was a crime confessed to them or on the intention to commit a crime, the intention to commit, you know, homicide and do a school shooting or do a mass shooting like this. And we do know that one friend was DM'd about this and there was a suggestion that she wanted to commit suicide, life was not worth living, that she was going to do something really bad, etc. Then everyone says, okay, well, is that person, should they be liable for failing to report? And there's all kinds of protections
Starting point is 00:46:28 that go involved with that, whether it's attorney coverage, whether it's doctor-patient privilege. But when the person who perpetuated the crime and perpetrated it, commits it, is killed, then how is it that we have a responsibility to someone who is, it's not like an open question of what they're guilty or innocent. They did it.
Starting point is 00:46:49 I would be okay with offering immunity to the doctor and even anonymity. I'm not interested in hurting that person. Even if they said to the person, do it, even if they were inciting it, I don't care at this point. I want to know the chemicals. Yeah. And what, what created, what was sort of the cocktail behind this? A history of mental illness, a history of self-mutilation, a history of gender dysphoria, narcotics.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Who knows? But we do deserve to know. We should know. Otherwise, what are you going to do? Operate in a vacuum going forward? I don't know. I think it's very dangerous. I'm getting fed up with the last 20 years yeah these shootings are getting out of control i mean obviously they're not a controlled situation
Starting point is 00:47:31 when they happen but it before 1999 i didn't know about school they didn't exist in my mind they weren't part of the natural discourse right to see more than one a year that's just too much for me if you don't find out the information then they look for for scapegoats. Well, let's talk about those scapegoats. We have this story from the New York Post. NBC freelance reporter ripped for linking Nashville shooting to Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire. He deleted it, but Benjamin Ryan tweeted, NBC has ID'd the Nashville shooter as Audrey Hale, 28, who identifies as transgender and had no previous criminal record. Nashville is home to the Daily Wire, a hub of anti-trans activity by Matt Walsh, Blog, Ben Shapiro and Michael J. Knowles. Journalists, that's what they call themselves.
Starting point is 00:48:14 They are they look, I just don't see. I think I think a lot of conservatives think this country is still unified and they're shocked that journalists would do these things. There was just a thing in the New York Post about how that patriotism in this country is the lowest it's been in human history. Like in the entire history of this country, patriotism and love of country have never been lower. But what I'm saying is I think conservatives still believe there are rules. They think there are rules and they demand you play by them. And these people are going,
Starting point is 00:48:47 okay, I'll take the tweet down. I'll just not get caught next time. So while we keep trying to play this game of, can you believe these institutions would say such a thing? I demand a retraction. They're sitting in their room laughing, being like these morons
Starting point is 00:49:00 are still playing by the rules while no one else is. Also, nobody sees the retraction anyways. And nobody ever sees the edit. A little bit. They make money off it. But in general, you post the article first. You get the rage out of it.
Starting point is 00:49:13 You retract it later when all of that's passed through. And maybe a quarter of the people that saw the initial one see the retractment. But it's good for them. That's just clickbait. It's all about the headlines. They put all kinds of false narratives in even if they clear it up in the last final fifth paragraph of it it's so disgusting and dishonest it's reprehensible to me a fake article journalists they're propagandists a fake
Starting point is 00:49:36 article will get 1 million views and then a week later the retraction will get another 50 000 that's 1 million 50 000 views for their bottom line. It's all ad revenue. Did you say this article got taken down? No, no, no. His tweet. He deleted it. And they make those and they post those articles
Starting point is 00:49:50 knowing they will likely have to post a retraction later knowing that if you're a propagandist you got your word out there initially. Sure, you have to retract it later. Sure, maybe a quarter of the people see that
Starting point is 00:50:00 but that's another you know, that's the rest that didn't. Who gets the win? Exactly. They get the win. By numbers, they get the win way think about what this tweet really means though of course this reporter is trying to frame it in a certain way and and link them but i'll put it this way if ben shapiro matt walsh michael knolls the daily wire are saying this is bad
Starting point is 00:50:17 this is dangerous and we need to do something about it and then a trans person goes and shoots up a church and school, doesn't that prove the daily wire correct? That we need to pay attention to what's going on. We need to help these people and prevent these tragedies from happening. No, you shift the narrative and make it about gun control and say that people shouldn't own guns and then immediately people forget. I think the real answer is yes. Yes, it does prove that there is a big problem right now with drugging up people.
Starting point is 00:50:44 I think the gun control narrative is a useful tool for Democrats because it gives you a never ending problem, something that can never be solved. 3D printed guns exist. And what ends up happening is the Democrats come out and they say, we're going to we're going to solve this problem. And then they ban some weird random thing completely unrelated to anything. Then they say, we did it. Did anyone, I saw someone talking about how there recently was gun control legislation just signed by Joe Biden. Plus we had the ATF rule. Did these things matter at all?
Starting point is 00:51:13 They're talking about how one of the weapons, it was two AR-15s and a handgun. But I'm pretty sure, I could be wrong. You guys in the chat, correct me. Pretty sure one of the weapons used by the shooter was an AR stylestyle 9mm rifle. So is that, it's not like a 5.56 or anything like that. Yeah, assault-style rifle.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Assault-style, which means nothing. Right, right, right. And it is really annoying how everyone, the Post Millennial and the New York Post, are calling them assault rifles when they're not. AR-style means arm-alert rifle. It's trigger semantics every single day. That's what they do.
Starting point is 00:51:44 They use these buzzwords. They're like, okay, we're going to trigger everybody with this. We're going to say it. And they know it. Words matter. And they use these words to alarm and to stigmatize people and create a whole panic situation. And like 99% of the people out there that are doing this whole total hysteria,
Starting point is 00:52:02 even Nancy Pelosi came back from the dead to make a comment about this like freak show tales of the crypt and yeah hey i don't know i was related to her there you go my aunt talk about that thanksgiving nice uh wow you know but you know but but i i call out the nonsense you know i don't like people who are dishonest. They don't tell the truth. They're saying something to achieve their ideological agenda, their objective, and they will do it at any cost. They don't care if they're sitting there, you know, telling a lie to the public. Everything is a disinformation, you know, campaign. It's massive propaganda.
Starting point is 00:52:43 And by the time we figure everything out you're there to whatever or there's a retraction or we actually find out like twitter files or whatever the damage is done nothing to see here folks and nobody see like that's nobody sees it like i had to tell my dad about the twitter files and explain to him like just how big and this happened yeah like you have to explain to them how big of a deal something like this is because and then when raided him and And most of the culture, whether, you know, not just boomers but a lot of people, still they put that faith in legacy media and what they believe to be pure truth or why would they lie. Right. Not understanding that for-profit media like that has – it's baked into the business model to lie.
Starting point is 00:53:21 It's 1,000%. But it's also incentivized because it works. It actually creates profit because they get people clickbait to click on it and that's it. model to lie it's a thousand percent but it's also incentivized because it works it actually creates profit because they get people clickbait to click on it and that's it they don't care if they have to retract it later was it like there's no consequence in the early days way way worse now when did it shift you know i like we had kind of mentions before but like when you went through i think 2016 election because of the whole Trump derangement syndrome and all the insanity that people like flipped out about that.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Then we went into 2020 election, everything that transpired there. Then it was the lockdown, you know, with the pandemic leading up to 2020 and people all at home, newsrooms changed. No one was in the same room like we are right now today going over stuff and then you had a lot quite frankly of the young people out there that were working in some of these jobs etc and like a very vocal minority talking about how this made them feel or that made them feel or you know they were upset remember the tom cotton stuff in the new york times in the editorial and then like everybody was rioting at the new york times saying we were so disgusted to work for this news organization how dare you you put this you know opinion article up that he had and it became that whole thing and it really developed the perfect cocktail of the group think
Starting point is 00:54:36 and that's what's sort of taken over it's just like a complete um like sort of like a parasite takes over right you have a host and you take it over. That's what's happened now in terms of the thinking. I just want a quick correction while we're still in this segment. People are mentioning it. The weapon used was a Kel-Tec sub-2000 carbine, 9mm variant. So important distinction. So you're saying that a lot of this disruption in media and, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:55:03 crackery or whatever you want to call it, this breaking of the narrative is because the newsrooms are diffused you're no longer in person working together i think it's one of the ingredients to the chaos cocktail where it's like you have that you had the pandemic people not together you and and to be quite frank like just all the response like donald trump and what he did and being an outsider and someone coming in that wasn't part of that political, you know, establishment, right? But to be fair, you saw the same thing. They didn't like it. They stole from, you know, Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders was not part of the establishment. They wanted, you know, Hillary Clinton, anybody, you know, but Trump, someone that they could establish. So when you actually see, they're very similar, the two sides.
Starting point is 00:55:46 They mirror each other in the establishment, the way they want to control people and the way you think. And if you're not someone that beats to that drum or plays inside that system, you're an agent of chaos and they will do whatever it takes to destroy you. Bernie bent the knee and shifted his policy positions.
Starting point is 00:56:01 I just think there's no moral character there. I think there's no moral character there. He actually stood and believed in something. And then he showed himself to be, you know, sort of a, you know, a false prophet, not someone who actually stood for his principles and what he believed in. He also, you know, essentially let the DNC and everyone take the, you know, the nomination from him and gave it over to Hillary Clinton. Or Joe Biden. Well, they had all the moderates drop out at the same time and then endorse Joe and then surprise, surprise.
Starting point is 00:56:30 That's called collusion. They get offered those cushy jobs. You know what I bet? I bet they went to Buttigieg and said, look, we'll make you transportation. We'll give you some do-nothing job. I don't know, something like transportation secretary. Thousand percent. And then he's like, alright, works for me. And then, uh-oh, now he's got to work. That's why he's nowhere to be seen. That's why he's like all right works for me and then uh-oh now he's got to work that's why
Starting point is 00:56:47 he's nowhere to be seen that's why he's not doing his job right that's why there's all those train derailments yeah probably the deals work up but that's exactly how it works it's establishment whether it's in left i know i know i spent years being like a front row seat to you know leftist liberal democrat agenda even though I was a Republican, I guess I was like a sleeper cell in there. And then I went on this side, and I see it. So I see what the two extremes are like, and what they want to put together. And they're not that different in terms of wanting to be able to control the people within the party, they're going to play the party game, and not buck the system or the establishment.
Starting point is 00:57:27 I don't trust either side. but that's what i'm saying i don't trust fox news any more than i trust cnn or msnbc i'm not telling you should i'm not telling you it's pretty good i do one other yeah sucker is pretty good everybody else and i love my team on the five oh greg is good god he's yeah he's fantastic they're very good the five is very good except for the especially one but the five is also in the early days people could tell me i was like juan williams that's a trigger word that's funny were you on that show yes of course i helped i could get the five juan williams don't even get me started i can't stand the guy but i really do like that he's on the show yeah well he they they put him on every once in a while now.
Starting point is 00:58:05 He's sort of like, because, you know, whatever. Does the dude even have Google is my question. I don't know, but he doesn't really care because I would say, where are you getting that? What are you saying? You know, and he was like super angry and just had all this vitriol about stuff. And I was like, have you even met this person? Do you even know what you're talking about? And like, look me in the eye when you're talking to me.
Starting point is 00:58:23 So I liked Bob Beckel. Bob Beckel, because he would say, i go bob what the hell i go where are you getting that i go you just made that up he goes yeah so hey what do i care you know because he like ran mondale's like he got like once he won one state he, and I had to pay for it. Wow. Let me ask you, though. So you've been working in politics and media for a long time. And in the past 10 years, we've started to see this dramatic shift, right? You worked at CNN with Anderson. And now CNN, they went absolutely insane. But they weren't like that, I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:59:03 And people know. Well, no, I know. Look back and look at it. Larry King, we covered all the legal cases and political cases. Anderson Cooper, I've always actually personally really liked. We got along really well. He recruited me to come to CNN. And they weren't like that.
Starting point is 00:59:17 I worked with Wolf Blitzer. And Lou Dobbs was there at the time. And it was like a normal place. And it was actually kind of cool to be there. I used to watch CNN. I used to watch CNN. I used to have CNN on 24-7. Everyone did. Because it would give me the breaking news, and the breaking news happened.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Oh, yeah. CNN headline news, too, was good. But then one day, I noticed all it was was panels talking about Donald Trump. I know. And I switched to Fox, and it was Iranian protests. I switched to CNN, Trump. Switched to Fox, terrible weather coming your way, storms and disaster. Fox News Extreme Weather Center.
Starting point is 00:59:51 I got to ask you, for a lot of people who have only seen this from the outside, I'm wondering, what was your experience inside watching this weird polarization and this shift happening, not just in news, but in politics, especially considering your work in San Francisco. Yeah. You know, it's so interesting because I was first lady of San Francisco, right? Because like, we're not going to try to hide this. It's like on the internet.
Starting point is 01:00:17 I was married to Gavin Newsom, who was the governor. But at the time... San Francisco wasn't even that bad then before. A DA's office was good. Mayor's office was good. San Francisco was clean. It wasn't like your right privilege. And you get like, you know, a gold medal to like defecate on the streets in front of kids. Like it wasn't.
Starting point is 01:00:31 You were married to the man. Clearly there was something good and that you saw in all of that. That's not there anymore. Okay. Well, yeah, I saw somebody. It was very hardworking and actually really cared about people. Really embraced the idea of being a public servant like I did. working for the district attorney's office and trying to do good and do something incredible for the community. And that all involved, you know, actually, you know, law
Starting point is 01:00:55 and order and making sure there was not like chaos in the streets, that they were safe, that communities were safe, that children could walk to school, that, you know, people could, you know, raise their kids in different communities. You could invest and buy something that added and increased in value, right? Live your American dream, all of the above. San Francisco, absolutely beautiful place. We did Care Not Cash. Gavin Newsom did that.
Starting point is 01:01:17 What was that? Care Not Cash was we're not going to subsidize addiction and polysubstance abusers by sitting there and giving them cash to just feed their addiction and kill them, to just essentially be an accomplice to take a life, to actually try to battle back, to give people drug counseling, treatment, get them clean, help them with getting a new job, helping to reunite, family reunification, whether, you know, if they ended up in the court system, et cetera, we'd have drug court and help people actually through the process and care about them instead of just like throwing a buck at it and saying, your life isn't really mattering to this community. We're just going to put you to the side for a second here, et cetera,
Starting point is 01:01:59 et cetera. So my question is, with all of those good things you are seeing and doing, did you actually witness the brain slug enter Gavin's ear and take over his mind and turn him into whatever it is he is today? Sad. Figuratively, right? But maybe literally, I don't know. It couldn't have gotten through the gel with the hair. The gel. But how did how did he go from being. I'll tell you because there was a whole movement that became this super like liberal left like woke agenda that is extremely persuasive and aggressive. And if you're not going to stand on principle, like they'll tsunami over you.
Starting point is 01:02:35 They will destroy you. I literally had people coming to my house where he and I lived, protesting, lighting sofas on fire in front of our house. I would have to go out there with the hose and i didn't care i was like you're gonna come to my house like now you're doing an aggressive act against me and now it's you and i let's go so i'm like ho like shooting the hose people they're ringing my doorbell all hours of the night they're like gavin newsom doesn't care about anybody he's like atilla the hunt have no idea. The narrative was so different. He was the most conservative person and moderate, like responsible about taxes and incredible
Starting point is 01:03:10 programs for small businesses, all of the above. Then we saw people come in like the, quote, bicycle coalition. You cannot believe the power of the very vocal minority that comes in with their really weaponized agenda and how they will spend their entire lives to destroy you and try to make a point across so that they become the loudest noise that you cater to and i've seen it happen over the years and we've seen this with the woke media what's gone on and you see it also quite frankly with um you know the mainstream like corporate weaponized media now doing the exact same thing and it's just happened you know one vicious cycle after the next i will say probably the ascendancy of donald trump helped feed this in that people became so upset so
Starting point is 01:04:01 deranged so obsessed like addicted to don Donald Trump and Trump derangement syndrome. I think it's a thousand percent real. We've seen it at all across all the different election things, campaigns, events, all of the above that literally they're like, we have to move like in unison against this one, you know, entity, dangerous like force and movement in the country. And so it was just a complete slingshot of aggression back in the other way, you know, to try to stop it. California orders skilled nursing facilities to accept coronavirus patients
Starting point is 01:04:32 from the LA Times, April 1st, 2020. I don't understand how, when you look at Newsom, Cuomo, I think Wolf, who, what other, was it Murphy? Was that one of the governors? Whitmore, Whitmer, Whitmore. They were putting COVID patients into nursing homes
Starting point is 01:04:49 and killing the elderly. And Newsom is one of the governors. No, listen, it's very upsetting to me. You know, he and I still have actually a very good relationship. I've had to clear up a few things recently with him. He enjoyed a very good relationship. I've had to clear up a few things recently with him. He enjoyed a very good relationship with Donald Trump. He even went so far as to say promises made, you know, promises
Starting point is 01:05:11 kept when DJT went out there, you know, for California for the fires, went out with Jared, etc. Giving relief there, having, you know, working cooperatively together. But now, you know, find themselves on more kind of like polar opposites there's a whole looming election there's the chance if biden runs or as kamala is gavin newsom going to run so it becomes obviously you know incredibly complex let's see if my ex-husband runs against my future father-in-law i don't want to just keep hopping on him though i'm curious about you know what what was this cultural shift in media and across the board that i mean just to elaborate on the experience for for for me when i started working at vice i wanted to be there because they
Starting point is 01:05:52 were edgy because they were not establishment shane smith the ceo at gun and coal baron said look we're not left not right we don't want to do any of that we just want to tell these stories and then within a few years i saw the transformation happening i'm like i'm getting out of here and then i went and worked for another company that was new and then within eight months boom they were getting woke of course they went broke laid everybody off i'm just i'm just curious your perspective on how this how this happens to these companies i mean i think you know okay i'll tell you this because i also had worked at you know msnbc but like filling in doing analysis and um you know filling in like primetime anchor leak for dan Abrams. I was part of his show.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Everyone was trying to kind of do the same thing, right? Except Fox, yeah, was definitely more conservative for sure. But they're not even that conservative these days to begin with. You know what I mean? Tucker's fantastic, I think, like the five, whatever. But MSNBC made a conscientious decision from a management perspective to go ahead and be the counter-programming to Fox News. That's what happened first in terms of the big cable news networks. Then seeing the success that MSNBC was having in the counter- counter programming like you have to remember back there were nights like rachel maddow you know open everybody doing incredibly well in the ratings like giving
Starting point is 01:07:10 fox a run for their money okay and we were like you know the the you know engine that couldn't fail were like propelling for with like smashing ratings then cnn saw what was happening with msnbc and decided they would follow suit. So then you had someone like Jeff Zucker, who was super Trump, the apprentice, everything, you know, besties at weddings together, you know, all of the above, come in and try to push CNN to that extreme when, you know, Don Lemon, Don Lamont, you know, Cuomo, who, by the way, I worked with at ABC News at Good Morning America, was not this person that was like a super leftist or anything like that. But it becomes that reward. You know what I mean? It's like classical condition. It's like, OK, I'm going to do this. Oh,
Starting point is 01:07:56 it actually worked out well. I'm going to continue to do that. You saw CNN do it, but they were late to the game. That failed for them as an economic model. Okay. And it didn't work. It didn't ring true. They weren't able to capitalize on it. And you saw their like online thing, the CNN digital total collapse, no infrastructure, no authenticity, and then layoffs, Zuckerberg, all of the above. So CNN's in a free fall with like horrific ratings right now, right? It began to like drop down with MSNBC. You had the pandemic, you had Trump, you had all these movements, and you had the mainstream media, the print journalism, also being very aggressive, trying, you know, following through with that to
Starting point is 01:08:38 say like, this is not what we want, and making all these constant attacks and attacks. Then you also saw the political process weaponized against conservatives, against Trump, with all these constant attacks and attacks. Then you also saw the political process weaponized against conservatives, against Trump, with all these different investigations that later out turned out to not bear any fruit, right? But it's actually what paid for them to continue editorially to go after him and demonize. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. They were making it happen. Right. The only reason anyone was interested in pursuing it was because they were getting pressure
Starting point is 01:09:04 because the media, it was a swirling toilet it was a flush sending us down into uh into the sewers of you know politics you advised your advisor to donald j trump yes senior advisor what i got from looking at it now looking back is that he came in and without even realizing it posed a threat to this change of guard from the liberal economic order to the new world order that they're trying to create, where they don't want American military bases. They want to create some global technocracy. And he wasn't part of the establishment.
Starting point is 01:09:33 It seemed like he didn't know that he was in the way. Like he ended the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which I thought was a brilliant move for American sovereignty. So now these Malaysian oil companies can't sue us as citizens. And he held NATO accountable. But that pissed off this oligarchy that wants the transition. Did he know that he was doing that? Or was he just doing what he thought was the best for the country? I'll tell you something. He actually, he does what he thinks is best. He'll listen to your
Starting point is 01:09:56 opinion, your viewpoint, he'll make a decision. But he actually will analyze it and decide. But he operates from a businessman's prism and perspective. So, you know, and we haven't really had like real businessmen, you know, occupy. We certainly don't have one right now. He doesn't have any business experience, Joe Biden, right? And we see what's happened with the economy and whatnot. But Donald Trump approached it like that. He's like, well, why are we giving all this money to these people?
Starting point is 01:10:22 They're not paying. Why are we giving all this money to NATO? They're not contributing anything. Why are we giving this money to NATO? They're not contributing anything. Why are we giving this money to China? Why are we doing this and this and this? And he actually asked the questions. Like, why are we doing this? And then he would get the answers and then, you know, decide what needed to happen in
Starting point is 01:10:37 order to represent America's interests. He doesn't apologize for being someone that represents the United States and what our best interest is for the American economy, for manufacturing, for infrastructure, creating jobs and economic opportunity across the board, taxes, etc. But he operates from a different perspective. He looks at it like, what makes sense to me? And I'm not just going to do it this way because the establishment, left or right, has been doing it this way forever. It seems like he posed a threat to this transition of order. And so they were like, crap, we can't tell people that he's a threat because they don't know that we're doing this. We're doing it kind of undercover. They don't know we're transitioning from the liberal economic, that we're selling out the American power structure to create a global power structure. Right. Just like the Paris Climate Change climate change accord all of the above that was like hey all the good old boys let's all play ball bro let's we're all
Starting point is 01:11:29 for the environment blah blah he's like what the hell why are we paying into this you know what are we doing for that i'm like jesus he's like china's the biggest polluter and they're not paying it down why are we paying all this money and kissing everybody's ass he goes that it looks like that's how he talks he's like this is no way it looks like what happened is they were like introduce okay he's a he's a He's like, this is no way. It looks like what happened is they were like introduced. Okay. He's a, he's a problem. We don't want to tell people why introduce identity politics. And then he bit and he fell into it and he started talking about leftism. And I'm like, Oh God.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Well, actually, didn't he not start getting traction during the campaign until he started tweeting more, uh, more stuff like that? He started tweeting about leftism in 2017. It was that I think that what happens is the culture wars started just slightly before Occupy Wall Street. Occupy Wall Street absorbed a lot of this stuff. That's a good point. And then you got Gamergate in 2013. And so a lot of people started experiencing this cultural phenomenon, this shift.
Starting point is 01:12:15 I went to a Trump rally in, I think it was in Wisconsin somewhere. And I asked some older folks. I don't mean old, but, you know, 50s. And these guys were like, look, Trump's talking about bringing jobs back. He's talking about helping the union guy. He's talking about helping the working guy, securing our borders. I'm all for it. And then I talked to some 20-year-olds and they were like, he's against political correctness.
Starting point is 01:12:39 And I respect that he speaks the way he wants to without fear of censorship. And we're really worried about what's happening culturally. I think that greatly benefited Trump. Both are true. Early on. And so I don't think it's that he decided, hey, I'll use this. I think he was the avatar of the rage of the working class and those who are sick of the hoity-toity political, just leftist culture stuff. And the whole forgotten men and women that were left behind, which is true, but they were left behind by both parties.
Starting point is 01:13:05 And he makes that very clear. And I saw that when I went to Florida, a woman told me, I asked her, I was at the, it was in Fort Lauderdale. I can't remember exactly which rally it was.
Starting point is 01:13:16 And I asked this woman, I was like, so are you, you're here to support Trump? Are you a Republican? She goes, oh no, I've never voted. And I'm like,
Starting point is 01:13:23 this is the first like, yeah, she's like, I've never cared for it, but he's finally speaking up. And the reporting at the time in 2016 was that areas of the country that traditionally weren't really Democrat or Republican were lighting up and turning Republican because finally someone was speaking to these people. So what I think right now is to go on what you were saying, Ian, about them.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Relatable. Absolutely. And to elaborate on what you were saying about the threat to this this order, I think you've got elements of the U.S. government that want the U.S. to fail. Donald Trump gets elected. And I think, you know, his whole strategy is here's how we're going to help America survive and rebuild it. And that's a problem for those who have investments in foreign countries. I'll put it this way. You got these guys in government who have effectively put put options on the US economy.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Yes. And Donald Trump is now jeopardizing their bet against America by making it stronger. And it's making these people very poor. They're very angry about it. I got the feeling that he didn't realize that he was doing it,
Starting point is 01:14:19 that he was threatening some secret transition. I don't know if he knew. I don't think he knew. It felt like he was just doing what he thought was the best for the country from the base. I think he knew that it was going to piss all those people off
Starting point is 01:14:30 because they certainly called and complained. A lot of people, you know, he had people on both sides and believe me, they call and talk to him and whatever. But at the end of the day, like one thing you're not going to do, you're not going to be able to successfully
Starting point is 01:14:42 like bully Trump. You're just not. He doesn't care. He's going to do what he thinks. He tells you exactly what he thinks, and he's going to do what he says. That's how he is. And sometimes it may be frustrating. You're like, whoa, wait, we got to win here.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Don't say anything else about that. You're never going to win that conversation with him because he's always going to say it. Trust me. But if you know he's always going to react the way you can use that against him and get him to do what you want by giving him the opposite. I think he is unpredictable. I really do.
Starting point is 01:15:11 I do agree with that. Because he'll change his opinion. Believe me. He could be in here right now and you could say something to him and he's like and he's going to think about it. Then you could come and say something to him and he's going to think about that. And then could come and say something to him and he's going to think about that. And then you're going to see where he comes down on it.
Starting point is 01:15:28 And you can't imagine like, whoa, I didn't see that come. Why didn't he go this way on that or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he has the way he processes and he thinks about things. And he's a very confident person, meaning he knows what he wants to do, what he thinks, and he's going to do, ultimately, it doesn't matter, what he thinks and he's going to do ultimately it doesn't matter what he thinks is right in his mind i wanted to say hey don hello and thanks for letting a cycle analyze you on tv is he going to win in 2024 i think so yeah i especially think with everything
Starting point is 01:15:58 that's like transpired now what's gone on with the investigations with the district attorney's office coming after him whether it was you know mar-a-lago and the insanity insanity and i remember that night so well um them coming in and you know storming mar-a-lago like how insane is that and you're going through like melania's closet like what is wrong with these people like seriously seriously if they can do it to him guess where they can come in i love your sign in the front no trespassing yeah right and police if you're coming in you you bet you better have a warrant i was like i like this i mean but it's true right i mean this is america and that you have to stand up for what you believe in and if you think it's okay that they're going to do this it's time and time again on president trump and like where's the evidence where's the evidence of any of the wrongdoing and then it's joe biden to sit in there living his best corvette summer with a you know box of
Starting point is 01:16:54 docks in the garage with like crackhead hunter and like china like for you couldn't make this up people be like whoa whoa they'll be like what medication are you on that you wrote this script? Because no one will believe it. No one will believe it. But it's actually happening in this country. I do worry that enough people are even getting this information. The amount of people that didn't hear about Hunter Biden just because of the media's ability to censor it or to prevent it from coming out at a politically expedient time. I think the biggest uphill battle isn't just um they did that to affect
Starting point is 01:17:26 the election yes they censored the new york post tweets on hunter biden and now how many years we're finding out it was actually true there was like veracity and you know truth to it there was evidence to back it up there's evidence of foreign dealings there's evidence of you know being in bed with china and you know a million dollars here there whatever i'm like come on i mean come on and why is that guy still running around i gotta ask about ron desantis is who who he's this he's this guy i don't know if you heard of him he's over in florida uh he hasn't announced but obviously everyone thinks he's gonna run what do you think do you think obviously you don't think he's over in Florida he hasn't announced but obviously everyone thinks he's going to run what do you think do you think
Starting point is 01:18:06 obviously you don't think he's going to win because Trump's going to win well listen you're asking my honest opinion and I would tell you and right now you know
Starting point is 01:18:13 in this moment in time I think thousand percent Trump is going to you know win the primary he will be the nominee and I don't see anybody
Starting point is 01:18:22 I mean do you I mean let me know no I completely agree let me know if you know anybody or think that there's anybody on the left that can beat trump in the general election if you have a legitimate election where votes are cast and one vote one whatever just saying right how the whole system works and i go and put my vote down there you go ma'am thank you so much boom boom boom boom boom who who now that you have
Starting point is 01:18:45 biden in office and you have that juxtaposition and you see what he has done have been a total abysmal failure nor did i expect anything else because he doesn't have the business acumen or the experience he's not a ceo he's not a businessman he is a failed career politician of 50 years sponging off the backs of the taxpayers that guy that dog don't hunt okay there we go. Then you got Kamala Harris, who I worked with in the DA's office. All right, now the whole world knows
Starting point is 01:19:10 what I already knew, okay? That she is completely incapable, incompetent, and actually kind of fright night terrifying. Like, it's not good. The cackling laugh and whatever. Halloween should just come one time a year. Didn't she not even get one? And then Gavin.o who wants any of this i think you want california
Starting point is 01:19:29 kamala didn't even get one delegate right tulsi gabbard got one pretty sure i like her the only person i think could beat trump is michelle obama i don't know if she has any aspiration to even do it but she's just famous and has that name right there were people like michelle obama or i don't even know if i buy that anymore because we're in such a highly politicized time. The Obamas succeeded like vastly on the idea that we just didn't talk about how bad things were at the time. And if you're not politically aware and you're not paying attention to what's going on, you just assume that everything is going good.
Starting point is 01:19:58 And I think that is partially to do with the fact that the media pushed what we would call now globalism, but was a neoliberal policies on the world world so you just assumed if you weren't paying attention to politics that everything was going good the world isn't like that anymore we're highly we're highly highly divided right now i think if the election were held right now donald trump would win based on the economy uh and that's the the biggest factor based on what's going on with ukraine the wars we're at a point what happened in afghanistan absolutely and people have already forgotten and and trump said all of this was going to happen when he was campaigning and and here we are now i think it's you you can get a joe biden in when no one knows what to expect but now we know exactly what to
Starting point is 01:20:40 expect and it's apocalyptic trump's going to walk in and be like remember 2019 remember the economy remember how much money you made i'm going to bring it back and they're going to be like yes please he's also going to be like remember graphing to that point this is it with all the industrialization with all the talk about ron desantis i don't see him being able to get anywhere near close here's the deal ron desantis uh you know a fine guy you know and his wife good job i know yeah i know them very well don jr and i and the president campaigned uh you know vigorously for them raising money all of the above when he's very down at the bowl so trump's just like bro like i helped you out you know i did a great job
Starting point is 01:21:15 for you you were gonna lose to this freak show guy down there and i helped you and you know god bless how about this be smart be a strategist you're doing a good job in Florida. Why don't you continue to actually do your job in Florida? Trump is going to run. He smashed 16 insanely qualified candidates in 2016. I mean, smashed them to living hell. Hilariously. Hilariously. I mean, it's like, oh, that one low energy job. He just fell off the stage, like whatever. And then now you're going to think you're going to go in. You're not.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Like, I'm telling you, this guy, and I was the first one to support him at Fox because I knew the man. Like I said, you know, he's my friend for 18 years. I know the measure of the guy. I know what he's capable of. I know that he is somebody that you're not going to be able to, like, defeat. You can't break this guy. You cannot. No matter what happens.
Starting point is 01:22:03 It's like he's made from a different whole kind of like dna why don't you just run like do your office and then run be the appointed one of the you know maga movement etc etc the populist movement the america first movement instead of now you're putting yourself up in front of a firing squad of people who are literally so pro-Trump because Trump actually did a good job. We don't have to wonder about the job that he did. He did a great job.
Starting point is 01:22:29 Do you want someone going in there with training wheels on to try to fix this mess that they made? Or do you want a guy that you know that can actually do the job and kick ass? Someone who's respected from a national security perspective. Because the rest of them are making a joke out of us. Look at North Korea. Look at crazy little Rocket Man. He's going nuts.
Starting point is 01:22:49 You know, Vlad. Vladikat's going nuts. No one cares. They're like laughing at the United States. No one cares because there's nobody of any substance whatsoever. This guy was sitting there talking about chocolate chip ice cream when children were murdered. Is that the leader you want in the White House? That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:23:09 So that's why I'm telling you Trump is going to win. I think Trump's going to win, too. All right, Vice President. So I don't know that I would—there was a period where I said Rhonda Santos maybe. Now I'm thinking—I said Carrie Lake maybe, but I'm seeing a lot of people be like, no, she's too like Trump, and you need kind of that contrast. I don't know. She's a female. I think she's not that like him. This is what I was saying about the extradition threat and the indictment against Donald Trump. Ron DeSantis's statement was very disappointing to me. I think he's done a great job in Florida. I think he's
Starting point is 01:23:38 done a lot of really tremendous things. That's why so many people moved there. So many people voted for him. But he said, look, I'm not going to get involved in this and my response was the governor should have said mark my words you will not lay a hand on donald trump in my state and carrie lake would have said that you tweeted uh trump 2024 oh yeah absolutely i saw it i retweeted it i retweeted it check my feet i was i was a year ago i was like i think desantis But things change. And the problem I had was all I saw from Trump was 2020, 2020, just kept talking about it. And so I was just like, I don't see anything here. I know, that annoyed
Starting point is 01:24:12 people. But now... You'd be pissed if you thought that, you know, something was taken from you and that you thought votes were counted that, you know, weren't real or actual or, you know, I'm just saying. That's a whole other conversation. If that's what he thinks, I understand his feelings. But all that mattered to me now is, especially seeing East Palestine,
Starting point is 01:24:29 going down there, buying McDonald's for people was a grand slam. Absolutely. Seeing him put out these videos where he talks about policy, policies that I actually care about. You like those policy videos? I think they're very good. Absolutely. He has specifics.
Starting point is 01:24:40 It's not just, you know, flowy rhetoric. In 2020, around August, i said okay i'm gonna vote for this guy i didn't vote for him the first time i said earlier i probably wouldn't vote for him but when he released his second term agenda i was like okay this is pretty good the school choice was huge getting rid of the critical race theory and government contracts all of that stuff and so now him putting out these policy videos i'm like you know carl benjamin of the lotus eaters podcast hit me up and he says tim you, you're wrong about DeSantis. Trump has to finish his narrative arc.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Let me explain. And he has this video where he breaks down Trump's story is not over. He has a mission to accomplish. And that did mean something to me. And then when I saw everything, you know, the campaigning he's begun doing, I thought his announcement speech was actually good. A lot of people were like, I didn't like it. I thought it was good. I thought the videos he put out were great and then what
Starting point is 01:25:26 really put me over the 50 mark was when he bought mcdonald's for people and he said i know the menu better than you do and then everyone's laughing and i'm like that is a total fact by the way do you know the times i've had mcdonald's with him and i had mcdonald's today and were we not laughing about it and talking about okay what is djt like i'm like okay well he likes to get the chicken nuggets likes the fish sandwich, likes the quarter pounder with the cheese. This is what we eat. It's good, huh? Oh, I fueled myself up with it today.
Starting point is 01:25:52 But I just think... I don't touch that stuff. Not all of it, but I don't like the bread. Yeah, I'm not going to eat at McDonald's. But when he bought all the McDonald's for everybody at the White House for that sporting thing, you know, that is personable. It's relatable. When he went to east palestine i thought to myself uh we had benny johnson on benny said joe biden literally went to the
Starting point is 01:26:10 furthest part of the globe he went on the other side of the planet from ohio right and then my response was hey look and on president's day marianne williamson announces she's running i think she's a very nice lady she did not go go there. Vivek Ramaswamy, I think he's brilliant. He's amazing. He didn't go there either. Is that who you want? And so I'm thinking even- I'll take it back to the nest.
Starting point is 01:26:34 These other people who are running for president didn't bother to go to East Palestine. It's big in the news. These people's lives are destroyed. And Trump's like, I'm going down there. Even if you thought it's a PR stunt. And that's what some people in the corporate left press were saying. They were like, Trump's playing politics.
Starting point is 01:26:50 It's a stunt. And I'm like, oh, so if I vote for a guy, my worst case scenario is in an attempt to earn favor with the public, he'll do good things to help. He'll do the right thing. And I can tell you it wasn't a stunt. I'll take it. He's not a stunt kind of guy. He actually was like, this is outrageous. This guy's not going to what's wrong with this guy that's
Starting point is 01:27:07 how he talks and then he's like i'm gonna go there then he's gonna buy people mcdonald's loves mcdonald's he loves pizza hut and i'll try to like throw like props up but i'm just telling you what he eats he likes that a lot and we went to the kentucky huh no pizza john's well your new pizza thing yeah oh yeah me and Jack we're gonna open a pizza restaurant yeah Papa Jack's
Starting point is 01:27:28 I'll build a recipe Papa Jack's Pizza Shack I mean it sounds delicious pepperoni pizza in the American Girl Dolls they released like a 90s classic edition it's got the Pizza Hut cups
Starting point is 01:27:37 that you always talk about the 90s cups the red cups I thought and he likes that in Kentucky Fried Chicken just saying we went to Kentucky Derby and I said if you're very good we're gonna go back we're gonna get the kentucky
Starting point is 01:27:49 fried chicken so we had a total feast of that you have to be careful i want to service is gonna have to jump in front of his diet they're running the the kentucky fried chicken bag you know people find him relatable he's a billionaire but he wants to eat what he wants to eat that's why all things aside in shape all things aside I want to see Trump's revenge. I want to see him debate like a real debate where they don't hate each other. They just are straightforward. Like him and if it's DeSantis, whatever. Vivek's great because he's smart.
Starting point is 01:28:16 He can talk about economics because he needs, I think Trump, he doesn't need it. But humility, if you show him like weak for a moment, and then he's able to still find the right way through the weakness he's gonna do it look at those old debates with like hillary clinton when she tried to hit him with the tax credit she's like you had a chance to get rid of him and you and all your donors are benefiting from it so yeah some of them are pretty amazing like but you should have done something about it to change it so they're on the books i took advantage of it next question but i want to see in 2024 trump get revenge. I want him.
Starting point is 01:28:45 On who? Give me the list. The deep state. A day of vengeance, man. I don't like it. No, no, no, no, no. Donald Trump wins and they immediately start accusing him of being a Russian. They run this massive, ridiculous nonsense investigation, which was just bonkers.
Starting point is 01:28:59 They accuse him of doing what Joe Biden did with the quid pro quo in Ukraine. They they put they strapped weights to his ankles. And we still had what Jim Cramer called the best numbers of our lives, despite that guy's got no credibility. But it was so good, even he couldn't have been wrong, which is kind of funny. So 2019, we saw this really great economy, despite all the things they were doing to weigh him down. I want to see Donald Trump get in and actually carry out his agenda untethered. And then fire all of these people. Right. And get the job done that he was supposed to get done. A lot of people said he didn't drain the swamp.
Starting point is 01:29:32 A lot of people said he did. And all it did was expose the swamp monsters standing in the field. The next thing he needs to do is fire them all. I don't disagree. But just so you understand, this man works like, I don't know, 18 out of 24. I know. He's up super late. He's awake very early.
Starting point is 01:29:52 He is constantly working, constantly writing this stuff down, and he is literally just waiting for that day of reckoning. You just wait and see. Wait and see. It seems like the tethers. Cover yourself in plastic because this is going to be next level. I don't know how to move through the tethers. It feels like the system is organized so that it's impossible to defeat it. But I mean, not impossible, obviously.
Starting point is 01:30:15 Well, look. And I don't want to hurt things. People say stuff like, you know, like I mentioned, oh, the swamp has teeth and blah, blah, blah, blah. It actually does because there are career politicians. There's people in positions that they're actually very difficult to remove. But this is why also I say it's such a great opportunity to have someone that already went in, did a phenomenal job. or manufacturing, infrastructure, record low unemployment, record high numbers of Latino, female entrepreneurs and businesses open. It was 1,800 a day at one point of female-owned businesses.
Starting point is 01:30:54 Do we have to worry about him winning back independence? Because I think that a lot of independents right now don't want to touch him. Why do you say that? I find that an interesting statement. Because I think independents and libertarians and people like that are like, you know what? I don't like what the government's been doing. Maybe now. I think it's better now.
Starting point is 01:31:13 That opportunity might be better now given what we're experiencing economically and all that stuff. But I just worry that for a lot of it. Look, a lot of people, when I was trying to explain to people why I voted the way I did, because that happened. People were like, why would you vote that way? And I had to give them a list of the things that I approved of, whether it was the Abraham Accords, whether it's NATO, all these things. You explained it to them. Most of them, first of all, if they're either low info voters or if they're politically left, they're not going to care because they either don't know what's going on. Because the CNN, none of these companies have, you know, none of these media outlets have reported on it anyways. So they're at a to care because they either don't know what's going on the because the cnn none of these companies have uh you know none of these media outlets have reported on it anyways
Starting point is 01:31:47 so they're at a disadvantage media wise but for the independents i just i don't know where they go i think the independents are going to have a hard time who are they going to go they're not going to go to biden that well i'm saying but if he's going to have to he's going to have to beat desantis here and that was in that respect i think a lot of people see him as a as a different option well also just like real quickly desantis um is actually hurting himself right now and it's not smart and i don't like it because he's my governor and i want him to do uh you know not standing for trump not like saying you know trump is a floridian like that's one of his that part he represents donald trump you know as somebody who is a taxpayer in flor and is a resident. So it should be like, no, no, no way.
Starting point is 01:32:27 Hands on this guy. You know, this is outrageous. You could have like drag him in, et cetera, et cetera, for, you know, a made up crime, whatnot. He could have showed courage and leadership. And that was a really rare opportunity. It was a strategic misstep. And he's also going to be very severely injured by Trump going up against him in any primary. I think it's going to be very difficult.
Starting point is 01:32:51 These people that love Trump are going to be obsessed. One of the things I think that the reasons the independents are having concerns with Trump right now is because of the way he handled COVID and giving Fauci all that power and just letting him let go. He didn't like Fauci one bit. Exactly. No, he hated him. Nobody really seemed to. No one that i know really liked him if you look back at some of those press conferences like trump was trying to not like not let him talk and whatever you like him at all i think that if he acknowledges that he made a mistake which as somewhat in the past seems out
Starting point is 01:33:17 of character for the guy but it's like putting fauci in power and letting him run with it after he was already in power yeah but like putting him on the podium and standing behind him, that's a big thing. Well, he was super annoyed. Can I ask one more? If he could acknowledge that that was an issue, I think a lot of people would hit on the board. Yeah, I mean, he hit him actually pretty hard
Starting point is 01:33:33 if you look at some of the Reddit. I get what you're saying. I am no Fauci fan. But Trump's not a Fauci fan now. He was never a Fauci fan, period, full stop, not one day of his life. I am promising you this. What he wanted to do was save lives and try to protect people while not shutting down the American economy and hurting children and schools. Okay, so yes, he tried to get, you know, the vaccination and stuff and like find like remedies and things like that. So that people could actually
Starting point is 01:34:03 get some medicine so that people could actually get some medicine so that you could curtail the loss of life. But he wasn't the guy putting people, locking down elderly establishments and rest homes and putting people in there and letting them die of COVID. We're going to go to Super Chats, and we'll carry on with that conversation for the Members Only section because there's a lot to talk about. But for now, I want super chats and we'll carry on with that conversation for the
Starting point is 01:34:25 members only section because there's a lot to talk about. But for now, I want to make sure we can get in your questions while we're here. So smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends and head over to TimCast.com. Click join us in the menu bar, become a member and then sign up for our Discord server. And then you can watch our members only uncensored show. It's up on the front page of TimCast.com at about 10, 10 p.m., and if you're in the Discord, your chat will be live on the show, and you can even submit questions to call into the show and talk to us yourself. For the time being, we will read your Super Chats. Jordan Henry says, Tim, your deleted tweet about the shooter's different shoes is worth looking into. Those are clearly not the same shoes.
Starting point is 01:35:05 WTF. Yes, I tweeted about this earlier because when we were looking at, I should say what I was, looking at the surveillance footage released of the shooter as well as the body camera footage, I noticed the shoes are different. Yeah. I don't know what that means or if it means anything. The reason I deleted the tweet right after I posted it was because we're getting ready for the show and I didn't have time to actually pull the videos and then actually make something to be like, hey, this is what I'm talking about. So it looks like it could be artifacting from grainy video, but the surveillance
Starting point is 01:35:33 footage actually seems to be high resolution. If you watch the surveillance footage yourself, it does appear that the perpetrator is wearing black shoes with a white streak. But then later in the police body camera footage, the shooter is wearing vans with a flame on the side of them all that means potentially if it's true because maybe it's just a a camera trick that erases the light like erases the color because of the light it means they changed their shoes that that's not surprising to me in the least bit doesn't mean anything i don't even know what it would mean if it did mean anything at all so they changed their shoes. Okay. A lot of people are claiming conspiracy
Starting point is 01:36:08 theories and I'm like, all I said was it looks like the shoes are different. Wait, so it's changed shoes midway through what was going on? In the opening footage when the shots go through the door and ripping it open, it looks like the individual is wearing black shoes with white stripes on the right. A white, large, broad
Starting point is 01:36:23 stroke. Later, in the police. A white, large, broad stroke. Later, in the police body camera footage, the perpetrator is wearing Vans with a thin white stripe and flames on it. So where did the shoes come from? Backpack. They were carrying stuff, I don't know. Or they took someone's shoes. I mean, you're at a school. There's probably a bunch of shoes in carriers or whatever.
Starting point is 01:36:44 Maybe, I'm not, this is the problem. You point this out, you're like, oh, that's interesting. And people are like, conspiracy theorists, I'm not, this is the problem. You point this out. You're like, Oh, that's interesting. And people are like conspiracy theorists. I didn't say it was a conspiracy. Maybe stepping on broken glass caused damage to the shoes. So she grabbed a pair of shoes from a shoe cubby because it's a school and
Starting point is 01:36:56 there's a bunch of shoes in there. Who knows? I don't know. Well, maybe they should let us know too, right? Well, yeah,
Starting point is 01:37:00 just, it annoys me when people are like, it's a conspiracy theory. If you post that, no, it isn't. It's just two different images that look different. You explain it.
Starting point is 01:37:06 I don't care. Anyway, let's read some more. All right. Coldy Locks Production says, man, YouTube must be pissed at Timcast because their live stream, which usually shows up on my recommended side every night, would not show up,
Starting point is 01:37:17 and I had to come to their channel to find it. They said something they didn't like Monday. Conspiracy theory. That's probably true. Well, so the issue is, YouTube probably would love to put some restrictions on us they probably do but so many people choose to come to this show every night the shadow banning and suppression doesn't work that well because people just look you got a
Starting point is 01:37:37 massive following there is you know that's not uh fake news all right but that's why i'm honorable because they'd be canceling me and Don Jr. every day. I mean, to be honest with you, and I watch your show on there, too, because I know that I'm going to get something even if you can't put it up or you got to take it down because in good conscience, you try to do it by, you know, by the rules and whatnot. And if you put it on Rumble, it doesn't matter if it's me, it's you, it's Bongino, it's, you know, any of them like, you know, Russell Brand, it's Glenn Greenwald, like there are a variety of opinions on there. And it's uncensored. I'm just very against having been in corporate media for a zillion years, okay, of what they do now to censor everybody's
Starting point is 01:38:17 viewpoints. And you have to watch everything you say. Otherwise, you're going to be canceled, try to destroy you, destroy your family, you know, click be canceled try to destroy you destroy your family you know clickbait fake articles about you create a whole like hysteria it's it's sad because this should be the marketplace of ideas we're probably going to start simulcasting so i think you should it's my strong recommendation there's a lot of challenges associated with it um as to why we have not yet they're both cultural political technological, but we probably will just because I think, you know, we might do what Crowder does. Apparently, Crowder will just mute YouTube if he thinks the show is too spicy. So people watching on YouTube just get dead air and then let YouTube explain to people why they're getting dead air on their favorite
Starting point is 01:38:59 show. All right, let's read some more. We got Callum Dimmick. He says the Daily Wire standard of don't give money to people who hate you. give it to us instead falls apart when they do black rifle coffee company sponsorships i've been very disappointed with them recently well go to castbrew.com they teed me up oh my god so we're planning on doing who sent that in we we can't uh we we can't right now set up the subscriptions because it's a pre-order phase we are now at the process where we're going to start uh the roast on on the coffee so when you order it it is being made fresh right now for the first time that's pretty cool once we establish the chain of production then we're going to launch the subscriptions so you can get you
Starting point is 01:39:44 know two bags of coffee delivered every month easiest way to do it easiest way that's how black rifle coffee does it like and ground coffee you're mentioning earlier versus doing because most people like don't have the grinders whatever but you'll i guess provide that later on well we're going to get whole beans soon right now right now the coffee's all ground can i just make a special request like are you going to make some k-cups and stuff? All right, just saying. Yep, biodegradable? I believe so. I'm not entirely sure. They might not be.
Starting point is 01:40:09 I don't want to offend the Paris Climate Change Accord. For the time being, we have the pre-orders will ship around May 5th. It's all coffee ground. It's ground coffee. And then we are going to be rolling out, once the production is finally rolling, the whole bean option, multiple new varieties. Right now we just have the four to start. The coffee shop should be opening in a couple months as well, which is really exciting. Hopefully.
Starting point is 01:40:34 I mean, these things take time. And then once the coffee production is rolling, we're going to set up subscriptions. And that's the most important thing because you become a member at Cast cast brew and then you'll get your coffee delivered every month on time and then i actually you know i'm trying to figure out some kind of like coffee box kind of deal where it's like you'll get you know a sample well you'll get like other things too so frothing thing something yeah roberto jr sticker who knows but we got that's your favorite you want to go with the light roast right now, you said. Well, you know, I'm typically a dark roast kind of person. Right. But just because it's Rise with Roberto Jr., breakfast blend.
Starting point is 01:41:11 You're into it. Yeah, because Roberto Jr. is the best. He's a superstar. Higher caffeine content in the lighter roast. Yeah. Roberto Jr. is a superstar. You have to eat the caffeine to do your high energy show. Every night.
Starting point is 01:41:24 Almost for me. All right. Yeah. No joke. Almost for me. Ooh, that's. All right. Oh, also, is there going to be a discount? I think you should offer like a discount, like a promo code if people like sign up and they, you know, subscribe to your coffee on a monthly basis, you get a discount. Yes.
Starting point is 01:41:38 We're planning on having it so that every month, if you're a member, the cost of the coffee reduces until it gets the point where it's really really cheap then it's free not free because you know someone's got to grow the beans roast the beans pack the beans and that'll be socialism we're not for that i mean economic collapse but the the general idea is if you know after like three months it's 10 off after six months it's 20 off and then it goes it goes way down. So we're after like model, you're rewarding the, you know, like economic, like longevity and loyalty of your consumer base. Yeah. And I'm thinking like, after a year, it goes way down right now. It's 1599 per bag. And then I think we can get them even down to like eight bucks a bag after like a year.
Starting point is 01:42:22 Because it all adds up the more the more members we sign up then the cheaper it is in the long run because like you know how it works with bulk like the more you sell the lower you price you can get it down then you're just battling inflation all the way down yep all the way down and then if we have to raise because of inflation then we do we should like throw in like some like a coffee cup or something like that, or you can do little holiday gift packages with that. We have a club that offers mugs, and it's louder with Roberto Bug Club. Club mug.
Starting point is 01:42:53 I'm just kidding. We made those as a gag, and it's Roberto Jr. laying like Steven Crowder does, and we have mugs. But I don't know if we'll actually do that, because that mug club is his thing. All right, let's read some more Super Chats. Bradley Myers says, the Nashville shooter had another target in target in mind however after she did a threat assessment she decided it was too secure
Starting point is 01:43:11 democrats voted against securing schools act and protect our children act yep that's right i heard there's like a different building isn't that the case was a different building that she was gonna and it was guard there's a guard on duty so. That's what I was referencing earlier in the program and about the eight o'clock hour. All right. Let's grab some more. The whole hard target versus soft target. All right. This is from Shlongathan McTwinkletwot.
Starting point is 01:43:36 That is not real. That's the name. That is not your government name. Did you. Yes. Did you see that the restrict bill is not about banning TikTok at all, but is the Patriot Act for the Internet on steroids and math? Wow. Both. It gets louder every day.
Starting point is 01:43:49 Ian, did you send that to the chat? It's louder every day. That wasn't me. It was actually someone else's nose. That username could have been you. I don't know. Oh, by the way. Yeah. But it actually does let them ban TikTok. Check his VPN. It just lets them ban everything else, like VPNs.
Starting point is 01:44:03 VPN. Which I do use. I like VPNs. I don't have one on right now. Yeah, how many YouTubers would be out of work if they couldn't advertise VPNs to their fans? That's what we need to do. By the way, literally. Uh-oh, I'm receiving a correction. What happened?
Starting point is 01:44:16 Apparently, we do offer Whole Bean right now. Okay. I'm a terrible spokesperson, apparently. Whole Bean. Well, it's because the graphic just says ground, but oh, I'm an idiot. Yes. I like whole bean because it holds the moisture. When you go to the website, you can select between either ground or whole bean.
Starting point is 01:44:29 They're both available right now. For each blend? Yep. Excellent. So you can get... I'm glad you cleared that up. Oh, I'm definitely ordering the Rise with Roberto Jr. whole bean. Yeah, I like whole bean.
Starting point is 01:44:37 I'm doing grinding myself. It holds the oils, you know, and then when you finally get that fresh oil when you break it apart. Maybe you should have like a Rise with Roberto like coffee little grinder thing too. Just smash those beans up. Little hand crank grinders they sell. Yeah. People don't like it.
Starting point is 01:44:53 Or a little Roberto face and you break them up yourself. All right, all right. A little bobble bean crusher. A little Roberto Jr. merch. We have a Roberto Jr. flag. He's a super star, man. He's so chill. If you go out Roberto Jr. flag he's a super star man he's so chill if you go out to Chicken City
Starting point is 01:45:07 when he's out with the ladies he's really nice and he just stands there and he's looking at you and he minds his own business his dad Roberto was a dick
Starting point is 01:45:13 he attacked me once he jumped and kicked me Roberto you can't make this was this provoked no he was misgendered as a child and I'm being serious
Starting point is 01:45:21 we thought he was a hen we got a bunch of hens and it turned out one of the hens was a rooster I heard it out there when i came up i was like no really yeah i'm out there i don't know if that's why he lived grew up upset but you get those eggs oh yeah we have like 150 downstairs right now you know eggs were in a serious shortage i know not us we got too many to get in the egg business but i think because we hatched roberto jr and
Starting point is 01:45:44 raised him he's chill with people so he looks at you and he's just like that they're all right they bring me food but let's let's get to the serious news and read some uh super chat super chats all right uh what do we got here let's uh let's grab one of these agamemnon's gym bag says brett excited for friday with the non-evil Aiden. If you're not familiar, check him out. He's like Luke, but he talks about Bigfoot. Yes, definitely non-evil Aiden. Yeah, Lore Lodge will be on Pop Culture Crisis with us on Friday. It's going to be a lot of fun. All right, Mr. Squeaky says, we have armed guards in banks because we value money,
Starting point is 01:46:17 but kids in schools? That's an interesting point. Well, I agree. Yeah, man. That's actually one of those few times where it's like, I avoid political discussions online at all costs. I'm not here. I don't want to debate with people on the Internet. You don't actually, in my opinion, you don't reach a lot of people that way.
Starting point is 01:46:35 Because most people, if they're willing to argue with you on the Internet, they're already set in their beliefs anyways. Very rarely. I don't remember the last time I heard somebody say, you have changed my mind about that when you're in a one-on-one argument. Maybe it happens. That's a good point. But at some point, for some reason, it was during Evaldi,
Starting point is 01:46:50 I broke down and I made some post about it, about the, why are we not putting security guards outside of schools, of all the things to allow myself to get sucked into the debate about.
Starting point is 01:47:02 And a friend of mine said, that was really abhorrent. My idea, it's a good idea like they just want to ban the guns they just imagine your friend was mad at you uh well just my friend just like his idea that your idea about it and voicing it was abhorrent and well a lot of those friends yeah we're still friends uh like i i'm willing to overlook a lot of that stuff because i know a lot of it it drives people nuts and they get blind spots when it comes to political arguments.
Starting point is 01:47:28 Difference of opinion is okay. And we can still have our discussions and hopefully you can reach them in that way. But they're just in their mind, gun control, getting rid of guns is the only answer. And a lot of people, it's very hard to change their mind about that
Starting point is 01:47:39 because they have utopian thinking. Because they're not smart enough to understand that 3D printed guns exist and they can't ban them. It's insane. All right. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, how about creating the correct culture is the right response more positivity less fear-mongering they say to be inclusive but they hate us others hate christianity hate families hate themselves there's this new show on tlc it's called like seeking brother husband and it's about women who want second husbands
Starting point is 01:48:04 and then their husband's reaction to it, and I'm just like, the family is being destroyed. Yep. What the heck is that? Yep. MILF Manor is MILF Manor. It's like Sister Wife, but like Brother-Husband? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:16 So is that what it is? Sounds like it. Is that like a feminist movement of some sort? The reality TV has been slowly destroying the culture far faster than 2016 and all of the culture war stuff. Far faster. There's a show called
Starting point is 01:48:28 MILF Manor, or MILF Manor right now, is maybe the most hilariously bad show on television. You sound addicted to it. We talked about it on the show, but I don't recommend anyone going and watching it
Starting point is 01:48:40 or assuming that that is the way you want to live your life. Or what about my 1,000 pound life or whatever goes on there? Well, people are always going to watching it or assuming that that is the way you want to live your life. Or what about my 1,000 pound life or whatever goes on there? Well, people are always going to have an attraction to the bizarre and the unnatural. Yeah, it's like a circus freak show.
Starting point is 01:48:55 Alright, let's see what we got here. We'll grab some more super chats. Quantum Strange Quark says, if you could supernaturally stop everyone in their tracks and tell them one thing, what would be the most effective message to snap people back to reality? If you could actually change
Starting point is 01:49:14 their wiring? And say what? Repeat the question. If you could say anything to everyone to wake them up. Get off social media. I mean, I'm not saying I'm going to do it, but it's probably a very healthy thing to do when you think about it and what goes on in there and just like the spin.
Starting point is 01:49:31 It's like a dead spin and a group think and craziness. Is the idea that they would believe whatever you said or it's just that they would be able to hear you? Because if they were actually to believe whatever you said. Let's just simplify it because I don't understand why it's so difficult. What could you say to people to wake them up? What do people need to hear
Starting point is 01:49:46 to get away from the cult? Don't trust the media. Some military might use nanothermite to melt the beams on the World Trade Centers. That is way out of the ballpark. I know, but you just gave me carte blanche.
Starting point is 01:49:59 I'm pretty sure people would just look at you like you were crazy if you said that. I thought if I could just change their wiring, not have to explain it, just fix it. That's what I what i would the media is lying to
Starting point is 01:50:06 you i think is the absolute easiest one it's making them believe in helping them understand that it is absolutely true is the hard part i think they're starting to come around yeah a lot of people what would you say to uh what would i say to people i would like, I think the challenge is it's not so much about a sentence or anything you can say, but I love this video by the Lincoln Project
Starting point is 01:50:30 where they take DeSantis out of context to make it seem like he didn't know where he was on 9-11. Or actually, a better example is the Shinzo Abe Trump moment
Starting point is 01:50:40 where they edited the video to make it seem like Trump was dumping food into the Koei pond when in fact he was just following the lead of Shinzo Abe. That was his great friend, by the way. Shinzo? Yes, he was very devastated when he died.
Starting point is 01:50:53 Oh, yeah, yeah. Such a great guy. Most of that stuff is what wakes a person up when they're actually looking for information, right? For me, it was all of the, you know, very fine people speech. And then actually going and reading about what it is. It's the MS 13 stuff talking about, uh,
Starting point is 01:51:11 yeah, that was the one for me where I was like, it was such an abhorrent lie. It was such a stretching of what was being said that I couldn't trust anything. You know, Brandon, Brandon strikes are the same thing that he was trying to prove someone else wrong yeah because trump did the the hand thing and he was like then he actually watched a video and saw that trump wasn't mocking this guy over his disability he does that for
Starting point is 01:51:35 anybody and everybody as a as a mockery how bad that is like that whole story and then you see that trump's done it like a thousand times it's just they set him up i think they said they set that up on purpose. And how do you go back? The thing is, how do you go back? Once you're woken up to that, and a lot of people was at Cernovich, it's like, I wish you could throw up the red pill sometimes.
Starting point is 01:51:53 Like you wish you could, right? But how- He's coming back around too. How do you go back after you realize that if they're going to lie about this, they're going to lie about literally anything. So you can't trust them there's literally like jury instructions about believability and credibility of a witness and if you find that
Starting point is 01:52:09 someone has lied even one time in a material fact or misrepresenter etc you can disregard their testimony in its entirety i.e a good example convicted felon michael cohn but that's another story all right lillian uh lillian Briggs says, will the coffee shop have truck parking? So the coffee shop is in a small town downtown space, but there is a large public parking lot just behind it. So it does have parking, I believe, for anybody. Is it going to be like the new friends with like the coffee shop and people hang out and play guitar and sing songs about cats?
Starting point is 01:52:43 I don't know about that. Maybe. It's three stories. The first floor is going to be general, open to the public, coffee shop, hang out and play guitar and sing songs about cats? I don't know about that. Maybe. It's three stories. The first floor is going to be general, open to the public, coffee shop hangout. There's a mezzanine, and that's going to be Ian's Crystal Cove, where it's going to be like a chill hangout,
Starting point is 01:52:54 like put up a curtain where it's kind of dark and a movie's playing. Lava lamps and stuff? Yes. I'm into it. Crystals. Lava balls. Then the second floor is going to be
Starting point is 01:53:00 the hangout space with games. We're probably going to have a small skate shop section where you can buy gear for your skates or your scoots or your blades or whatever you got and then probably have like a pool table and table game set up for the hangout by the way kind of like here yes and then the but public and the third floor is the elite club where you have to be a member of the timcast elite club to go and hang out and that's going to be like fully stocked fridges all the food's free like a social club. You go up, you hang out, like-minded people are there, they're playing video games, they're watching shows, they're, you know, drinking coffees. Charcuterie, like cured meats and things like that. I want to go to that floor.
Starting point is 01:53:34 It won't be nearly as fancy. So like, you know, New York social clubs are like $50,000 a year. Ours is going to be like $1,200 per year because it's $100 a month. Got it. But then we want to create a space where we can, want to create some there's there's value to those social clubs in new york and a reason why people spend that money because if you're somebody who works in a magazine you spend that 50 grand you're all of a sudden hanging out with a guy who works at a tv network and you're like hey we're doing a big ad campaign it's a whole networking thing exactly and it and it allows people to share resources and become more powerful like so house zero bond
Starting point is 01:54:03 in new york exactly we got to create something like that out here, substantially cheaper, substantially smaller, but create that networking space where people who are trying to start businesses, work in the cultural space, can network with each other. And so that's the ultimate goal. I think you should tier it so that people who are early adopters and they can get in at a good rate, et cetera to try and drive like that membership and then it can go up i mean it's working places right now people can sign up for the discord chat that's all we really have but we're going to do meetups so maybe we're probably going to do a
Starting point is 01:54:35 meetup in austin when we're doing our live show so if you're in the elite club it's going to be like 20 people hanging out somewhere super private um but that's the idea we want to we want to get people in on the community in the culture building and create something of value for them so it's like you support us we have a special club where you can hang out and then we want to create more and more benefits but uh speaking of self-promotion leland taylor says just listen to bright eyes for the first time and i gotta say wow as a musician myself i am really impressed my wife and kids were equally impressed. My wife had no idea you were a musician. This is the fourth song
Starting point is 01:55:07 we've put out. You can purchase the song at TrashHouseRecords.com. If all of you listening right now do, then we will shatter the billboard charts and rank once again for the fourth time. You're a really good singer. I heard you just sing acapella
Starting point is 01:55:23 downstairs and everything before the show. Just hanging out. And looking i was like because i was thinking that was on the tv and it was you know playing but then it was you singing while you were playing pool yeah i think i was singing sound garden or something so they're so good sound garden i've been singing porch by pearl jam like love it for 48 hours man keep doing it oh yeah but yeah so um admittedly so with this song, we didn't do as heavy of promotion with the other ones
Starting point is 01:55:48 because I want to see what the organic pull is so far. So with the first, with Only Ever Wanted and Genocide, the songs we put out, we did a big marketing push and we got like a million
Starting point is 01:55:57 plus hits in a week. This song, I've done zero promotion on the YouTube video and it's already got like 150,000 hits. Wow. That's what we want to see.
Starting point is 01:56:05 We want to see the organic reach of a song with zero promotion, and that's tremendous. It's better than a lot of musicians, so not trying to be a dick or anything, but I'm saying we're doing well with your support, and I'm hoping that we can get enough sales so Bandcamp banned us because they're super woke,
Starting point is 01:56:20 which makes it harder for us to chart. I get it. But hopefully if people go to TrashHouseRecords.com and purchase the song for 69 cents or whatever they want to give, we will hit the billboard charts once again. I've got a question for you. So it's interesting because you're obviously presenting with a diversified portfolio, okay,
Starting point is 01:56:35 about a lot of different interests. You're somebody obviously that likes to challenge sort of the main news media infrastructure by doing the program that you guys are doing. But you also enjoy music. So you're a musician. You love that. Entrepreneur because you're doing the coffee and you want to take the restaurant.
Starting point is 01:56:55 Skateboarder. I saw you play with a little skateboarder, a little fidgety guy. Oh, yeah, I got a tech deck right here. That's cute. And so I had to buy like 17 of those for our kids. I like it. Safer than the real thing, me getting on it what's your bliss you know when they say to you like follow your bliss what you actually like your true passion whether you know some people are like artists musicians but somebody
Starting point is 01:57:16 loves to paint but they like make furniture in order to support their love of painting like how would you characterize yourself for like your listeners out there that are trying to get to the to the essence the the core of who you are i like complaining about things yeah that's fun for everyone yeah that's what i made of living out of it so do little old ladies with blue hair we all love it and uh i like solving problems i like understanding how things work and then trying to assess what the issue is that people are having with it and fixing it and so it's easy to complain about things. It's hard to fix. But that's why all of the money we make, I should say, like, a better way to phrase it is
Starting point is 01:57:52 all of our excess resources from this show are going into producing cultural endeavors for the purpose of winning a culture war. Because so few people in the culture war are not making culture. How are you going to win it if you don't have any? So granted, people are like, Tim, all you do is make your own music. And Castle is just your own building. And I'm like, well, we're getting there. We do have a documentary on the Federal Reserve, which I believe is about to launch.
Starting point is 01:58:15 Ben sent it over. I'm so excited, Ben Stewart. Perfect timing with the banking crisis. Let's get this out. Exactly. So we also have Lauren Southern working on a documentary about gun control. I have a song coming out with Adelita's Way that I did. It's going to be great.
Starting point is 01:58:27 Right. So and we're doing the coffee shop where I just want the idea of the coffee shop is we want to do something called Saturday morning cartoons. Sure. Saturday morning families come and bring their kids. We're going to have cartoons on the TVs. There's going to be like a breakfast buffet or something. The parents can hang out with each other.
Starting point is 01:58:44 The kids can hang out with each other. The cartoons are approved by the family. So it's like- Not weirdo, woke, Disney stuff. Exactly. And so what we're creating is effectively a light version of church community gathering. It's not going to be based around religion like church is, but for a lot of people who don't have that, it's a step in the right direction of bringing people together once a week. Yeah. Once a week in the morning with their kids to learn real values and share ideas with each other
Starting point is 01:59:10 and help organize. That's what churches were doing for so long. And now that people are losing that, they've lost it. So we want to create something for people who don't have that. I think that's going to go a long way. And I'm hoping within a few years, we have like 50 different coffee shop locations
Starting point is 01:59:26 around the country that do this. And we'll make money doing it. And we'll put that money back into more culture and community building. Would be good to replace as much Disney as possible. Did you see that? Laying off? 7,000 layoffs by April 3rd they're going through right now.
Starting point is 01:59:41 That doesn't work. They laid off their meta division today as if anybody cares about like a Disney metaverse division that's not doing anything. How crazy is that? All right, here's what we're going to do. First, just to address,
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Starting point is 02:00:42 I'd be really appreciative. I'm a really nice Irish Puerto Rican girl from way back at Kimberly Guilfoyle on Rumble. And a shout out for my sweetheart at Donald Trump Jr. is also on Rumble. We love it. We're actually, it's so freeing. I feel like so excited to just sort of be, you know, my own boss, get out there, say what I want, do the programs that I want without any of this like, you know, hyper management, like critical, you know, consensus group thing. So it's cool. And I have to just say, honestly, I'm super excited to be on this program and be with you guys. Right on. I want to address.
Starting point is 02:01:18 I see Florida Aerial Media in the member chat saying many of us watch on TV. Why would we want to chat on discord? Fear not, because we actually going to be rolling out our own chat app and the timcast app coming out soon so you'll be able to go on the app and actually chat and that will be probably a whole lot easier but also brett uh i have something i want to say before we go hollywood i saw your post about making an x files reboot and i say no you are not allowed to do that you cannot do that and i will petition till the day I die that you do not allow an X-Files reboot to be made.
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Starting point is 02:02:22 for the kind inquiry. Yeah, 4 o'clock Eastern? Yes, it is. Excellent. Thanks so much for coming. Thank you. Surge. Yeah, that was a good one. Find me on Twitter.
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