Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #746 Matt Walsh CANCELS College Speaking Event Over Far Left DEATH THREATS w/Sean Spicer

Episode Date: March 30, 2023

Tim, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Sean Spicer to discuss Matt Walsh canceling speaking events after receiving death threats, the looming trans day of vengeance that is set to take place Saturday i...n DC, Katie Hobbs' press secretary resigning in disgrace after threatening "transphobes," and a heated debate between Sean Spicer and Tim Pool over the corrupt cops in America. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today's been particularly crazy. We had on Monday following this this mass tragic incident, the press secretary for Katie Hobbs, a Democrat, post a photo of a woman pointing to handguns saying what we do when we see transphobes. This Democrat press secretary has now resigned because that was outright a declaration or some have viewed it as a call to violence against their political enemies. We've got a lot more going on. It's been a particularly crazy day. Matt Walsh was supposed to speak at a college tomorrow, but he's canceled due to threats against him and his family. We obviously have the trans day of rage is still going on and news breaking that the group behind
Starting point is 00:00:42 it recently had a gun training and raised money to purchase a bunch of weapons, or at least I believe that's what's being reported. We'll get into the full details. And then strangely, a wave of school shooting hoaxes all over the country, and the calls came from outside the United States. So the initial reporting that I heard was that it was in Pittsburgh, that numerous schools have received phone calls about an active shooter incident. We saw videos online of emergency vehicles rushing to the schools. Then we heard it was happening in other parts of the country as well. Someone from outside the U.S. started making these phone calls. Something crazy is happening. And this weekend has me particularly worried. So we're going to get into all that. But before we do, we have an
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Starting point is 00:03:49 Don't forget to smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and a lot more is Sean Spicer. Great to be back. Always a pleasure. I think everybody knows you, but who are you and what do you do for those that don't? I host a show on Newsmax at 5 o'clock every night. I just put out a brand new book called The Parents Go Bananas. It's available on bravebooks.com.
Starting point is 00:04:10 It talks about the ills of fake news, and you want to talk about a great deal. You mentioned Public Square. These are guys who put out great Christian patriotic books that speak to our values, and they get to what – they allow kids to actually read something. As a father of two kids that are 12 years old, you want something that you can have your kids that have something that builds character, that talks about something that you can feel comfortable as a parent knowing that they're not being indoctrinated with. And I don't actually talk about fake news in the book, but it's something that you can read to your kids and know that they're dealing with issues that they're going to face as children, that they know how to do the right thing. So, you know, Brave Books has been a great partner to help educate
Starting point is 00:04:52 kids. They've got great authors. I was with Kirk Cameron, Jack Pasewicz, the Libs of TikTok author Chaya today, and we were out there talking about, with kids, our books, and it was fun. And this is what Brave Books has been all about. So it's been fun to partner with them. it looks like the allegory is that the parrots are the referees and they may have gone crazy well the parrots are actually the bad people in this book they actually are are the they are helping to perpetuate false news so they they that you've got good characters in this book uh and they are spreading bad news through this system called tubular which is like youtube uh but we help the kids understand the kids understand what happens if you spread false information. You know, I've had, I mean, I know you guys have all dealt with it or seen it.
Starting point is 00:05:33 You talk about it all the time. I've been accused of things. I know a lot of people have seen it, dealt with it themselves. And so part of it was what happens if you're accused of something falsely. But also, and I think this is like what I see with my kids a lot that they're encouraged to pile on. So it's not always if you're the ones that are accused, because there's only a small percentage of people that have that. But I think more likely than not, you're encouraged to join, jump on the bandwagon. And that's where I wanted to write. And because that's what kids deal with.
Starting point is 00:06:02 It's like, you know, let's accuse this kid of being the bad person. And part of the book is, whoa, slow down a moment. Let's get all the facts first. You know, I think about a guy like Nick Sandman from Covington Catholic, who by the time all the facts came out and all the video was out, the bell had been rung and you can't unring that bell. And I think part of this, and this is what we were talking about today with these kids, was let's slow down. Don't judge. Let's presume the good in people. Let's not try to go out there and convict people
Starting point is 00:06:31 before we have all the facts. And that's what I think we need to be teaching kids. Right on. So this should be interesting. We have a lot to talk about. We also have Hannah Clare Brimelow hanging out. Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I'm a writer for timcast.com. That book sounds awesome. Well, thank you. And I'm Ian Crossland from iancrossland.net. What's up? And we also have Serge Dupre. Yes. I'm muted because I generally keep muted. What's up, guys? Serge.com. Let's have a good show. Let's jump into this first story. Now, this was difficult because we have a couple of big stories. We have Democrat press secretary for Katie Hobbs, Jocelyn Berry, resigning. But we also had news earlier in the day from Matt Walsh.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I think most of you know who he is. If you don't, he is a prominent conservative commentator. He put together the documentary, along with the Daily Wire crew and many others, What is a Woman? Challenging gender ideology. He was supposed to speak at Washington and Lee University, but due to threat. Let me just read the tweet for you. He says, sadly, I have to postpone my speech at Washington and Lee University, but due to threat, let me just read the tweet for you. He says, sadly, I have to postpone my speech at Washington and Lee University due to threats
Starting point is 00:07:29 against my family and other serious security concerns in Nashville this week. I cannot leave my family and fly to another state. I hate to push the event off, but my wife and kids come first. I intend to continue my spring college tour as planned in the coming weeks. The event at Washington and Lee will be rescheduled as soon as possible. The threats to my family only make me more determined to fight this evil. I will not let any harm come to my children or my wife, and I will not let these psychopaths scare me into silence. Neither of those things will ever happen, I promise you. In case it wasn't clear, this has nothing to do with Washington and Lee University. The event was coming together well and everything was perfectly fine. May have been some protests planned, but nothing major. The potential danger is at home, which is
Starting point is 00:08:08 why I need to be at home. So things are getting absolutely crazy. We have many conservative commentators banned on Twitter still for calling out this trans day of vengeance. And it's a it's really weird. I was thinking about this earlier. Obviously, we had this tragedy that happened on Monday. The psychopath goes into a school slash church, kills children and faculty members. And then what do we see? There's a viral video going around. Libs of TikTok posted of a trans activist telling people to get weapons and to go physically beat people. It's I've never seen anything, anything like this. Typically, when, let's go back in time, when we had Andy Ngo get attacked, you actually had the corporate press come out and be like, okay, okay, this goes too far. Now you actually have the corporate press coming out and saying, well, the real victims here are the trans activists, despite the fact they're sending death threats to the family of Matt Walsh and planning a violent action, a day of vengeance starting Friday into Saturday and Sunday. I call it a day of vengeance, but now they're saying it's going to be three days. They're saying it's still going to
Starting point is 00:09:08 be happening. But this is backwards. I just don't understand this, that it's everybody else's fault that this individual went out. I mean, right now, the person that perpetrated this crime and killed six people is being equated to a victim. What is going on? I just – I don't understand what has happened in this country. We are literally less than 48 hours from a major tragedy, and somehow the mainstream media has turned the person that perpetrated this crime, taken six innocent lives, into somehow of a victim. And we're sitting around having this debate, and I just, my mind is blown going,
Starting point is 00:09:53 what is going on? How old are you? 51. 51. So here's what I think is happening. The older generation that was raised off the internet is they have a similar view of the country, be it left or right, liberal or conservative. But the millennials who are raised online are hyperpolarized.
Starting point is 00:10:11 So the reason why I think we're seeing this happen is that millennials are starting to take executive editor position, start making decisions on how articles get framed or what stories get covered. This is what you start to see. I think you're right. I mean, that's exactly – there is this dichotomy in the country right now where young and old see the world differently. It's about patriotism, who views the country as patriotic. The poll that came out the other day in the Wall Street Journal that shocked the heck out of me, 38% of the country views patriotism. And I literally, you know, a bunch of people I knew said, well, I wasn't shocked at this. And I said, you weren't shocked.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I get the division. But there was something that I thought united us. And that was being able to say, okay, I'm an American. And I mean, maybe I didn't think it was 70% as I used to, but I thought maybe it'd be in the low 60s, 38%. And I think that you put your finger on it, this idea that there's a huge divide between whether we grew up with the internet or without it. And that's, and I mean, I see it every day, but it's, I don't know, maybe this is what's manifested, that the idea that you can see a tragedy like this, and then say, here's the person who perpetrated it is also a victim. And I was reading some of the statements today, and from some of these groups that you mentioned earlier, and they were like,
Starting point is 00:11:41 there are two victims in this. And'm like no there's not yeah it is never acceptable you took out innocent lives there's there's it makes no sense why someone whatever the reason may be would kill nine-year-olds it just doesn't make sense no what any year olds what the leftist activists are posting on twitter is that they were future fascists i'm not exaggerating. Andy Ngo has covered this. They are posting that there are people on the left saying that it's a good thing because the future fascists were stopped. But this is the point. You're 51. When your demographic, when Gen Xers and boomers are no longer in control of the system, either through retirement or passing on, this country will fall into
Starting point is 00:12:25 abject civil war. If we take this shit seriously. I mean, if people are saying crazy stuff online and we're like, he said he was a dog. Everyone look. He said he was a dog. Oh, no. Like, don't. It's a terrible, weak defense to say that this person is a victim somehow.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Obviously, they were drugged by someone. I mean, in that way, they were drugged by someone i mean that here's in that way they were victimized i can't help the issue is the corporate press is writing puff pieces for this person some of it it's not it's not about and that's as sean says on unheard of it but but this isn't look i get the left-wing groups maybe or or the left-wing media there was was a piece in NBC News. Yep. This isn't some fringe organization or some fringe media piece. This is one of the three major broadcast organizations that is somehow giving a platform of sympathy to a killer.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Yeah. I think you have to draw parallels to the relationship between religious radicalization and the online community. You'll hear people say, I remember being taught this in college that you'll have migrants move to France and they are the first generation of family to go to school there, but they don't feel like they are French and they don't feel like they are part of their heritage. They're not from their country. And so they look online for acceptance and community, and they're more likely to become radicalized that way. And radicalization often calls for violence to carry out your beliefs. And so this is something that I was taught over and over again at my university.
Starting point is 00:13:57 This is a pattern that we see with people who are radicalized. And it's the same thing that's happening with people who grew up in extreme gender ideology. They seek it out online. They feel uncomfortable. They look for community. And the community says, you are being attacked at every turn and you need to make sacrifices. You have to be willing to act on this.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I think something that many conservatives and many in the older generation haven't asked themselves is when the people, these millennials and Gen Zers who hate this country, they hate it with a passion. When they start taking over companies, what will this country look like? So a few years ago, Colin Kaepernick took a knee during the national anthem and it was a controversy. Within the span of only two or so years, every major sports team, every major athlete was told to take a knee. That is a culture revolution overnight. And only now are there are there are athletes who are saying no to this and they are the controversial ones now.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Think about that flip. It is going to keep happening because it this is what I think people don't realize. In 2015, Donald Trump starts running for office. A child who is 10 years old will be voting next, 10 years old then, who had no understanding of politics. Their developmental years is all being raised by a media lying about Donald Trump, lying about the conservatives in this country and the right. And now they're going to vote for the first time in 2024. That degree of influence is going to keep getting more and more dominant. And as Gen Xers and boomers retire and pass on, give it 10, 20 years, and you're going
Starting point is 00:15:33 to have two different factions in this country. You already do. But here's the issue. Among millennials and Gen Z, the bifurcation is clear. Far left extremists are calling for more violence in response to what happened on Monday. Something would be shocking. I mean, we wouldn't tolerate this 10 years ago. Everybody would come out and be like, okay, look, man, we know we have our differences, but this goes too far. Not anymore. And it's because the younger generation is gaining
Starting point is 00:15:57 more and more power in industry. That's the natural flow of things. It has nothing to do with people becoming radicalized. It has everything to do with young people already being radicalized on these platforms. Of course, that's why we see in schools these teachers trying to teach critical race theory and radical gender ideology because they are trying to indoctrinate them at a young age. They will grow up. They plant those seeds. They put the glitter in the carpet that never comes out. And those kids don't need any more guidance. Give them 10 years.
Starting point is 00:16:23 It's done. It's funny. For the longest time, I had this belief that one of the mistakes that conservatives made was not going into high school and colleges, right? And then I said part of the problem is that students aren't exposed to conservative ideas and thinkers. And then we see what's going on. And I saw this myself.
Starting point is 00:16:43 After I left the White House, I went to 20 college campuses and I saw firsthand the idea of getting shouted down, right? allow the those voices to be heard whether it's you know me and and all these authors at brave books to be able to go in to talk to kids or people like matt walsh and and some of the other folks to go to college campuses the idea is to to not allow these kids that you're talking about who are going to vote to even know that there is another point of view we want to shut them out but the idea that you were also talking about, this idea that these folks are talking about violence, something that the left used to abhor, they're now talking about this weekend, getting guns and going out and getting people. And again, where is the leadership from the top saying this is unacceptable? The president
Starting point is 00:17:43 of the United States has been asked to comment two days in a row. Not only is he joked about it, but he hasn't condemned the violence that the left is talking about coming out and seeking retribution now. Because they're his people. Exactly. It's, you know, I don't think Joe Biden is like a staunch leftist, but he gains power from these groups and they are willing to tolerate him if it destroys the right. That's why many of these you had some prominent leftists make videos saying you got to vote for Biden back in 2020. And it was weird.
Starting point is 00:18:16 He's like a corporate establishment politician, but he's closer to them. So he knows he gets some benefit from their politics, which is why Democrats pander to them. So what does he care? It works. It works for him. Right. He's just a vessel. He knows.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Hey, did you hear about Merrick Garland ordering marshals not to arrest the protesters? Right. Because it benefits them. Right. I mean, the funny part is when he gets asked about this, these slides that were instructing the marshals. He says, I don't know anything about it. Well, you were the guy that claimed just a while ago that you were the ones who instructed the marshals. So on the one hand, whatever it was a year ago, you're claiming you were the one who ordered them. You had to give the order. But when it came to the instructions
Starting point is 00:19:01 to the marshals, you knew nothing about that. The instructions that said, let the protesters do what they want. I mean, it's funny how he only knows so much. I want to jump to the story from the Daily Mail. Controversial group behind the trans day of vengeance raised money for firearms training as other trans protesters pose with guns ahead of March in D.C. on Saturday. Now, I want to make sure I state this first and foremost, they have a right to firearms. They have a right to firearms training, and I do not care if they want to go and march peacefully while armed. That is second amendment, right? And in DC, they don't allow it, which I think is wrong. However, we just had a mass shooting where a transgender individual wrote a manifesto. These people defended it and
Starting point is 00:19:47 are now calling for a day of vengeance. This is as close to the line as you can get. They're standing on it. Just to be clear, the president of the United States tweeted out the other day when with respect to his court hearing that people should go out and protest. And the left went nuts and said, how dare he call for protest with respect to, you know, his this decision that may come down about, you know, from from the Manhattan district attorney. These folks are talking about firearms. And I agree with you. They have a constitutional right to do all of the aforementioned.
Starting point is 00:20:23 But no one on the left, they were they went nuts and apoplectic that Donald Trump was calling for people to protest. Full stop. Just the word protest. These folks are talking about taking up arms, getting firearms training, and no one on the left seems to say a single word. Because you need to stop assuming you are in the same country as these people. They know they
Starting point is 00:20:47 hate you. They know you are not a part of their plan and their system. So when Joe Biden hears about Christians being shot, he laughed. He laughed and said, I don't know anything about it. He didn't know anything about it? Three nine-year-old children were gunned down, and he says,
Starting point is 00:21:04 I don't know about it. And they said, Josh Hawley thinks they were targeting Christians. He goes, well, then I probably don't agree. And I'm joking. Yes. I mean, I'm joking about a tragedy that six people just got killed. I'm not sure what's the worst part about what you just said. I want you to imagine it this way.
Starting point is 00:21:22 What's your favorite sports team, Sean? The New England Patriots. New England Patri patriots have they played against anybody recently or what's what's the most recent uh game they played it would have been last season last season yeah uh name another team you don't like the jets the jets and they play against each other i'm not i'm not big on sports it's both in the afc east all right all right so um tell me the tell me the teams again. It's the... Patriots versus the Jets. Patriots versus the Jets. So you are watching the Jets get, what is it, football? Yep. They get through a touchdown, and it's a controversial call. Are you going to cheer for them?
Starting point is 00:21:58 No, not for the Jets. Exactly. And you're going to be angry and outraged. But let's say there's a controversial call that benefits your team. Are you going to defend them? No, of course. I mean, if it benefits the Patriots, yeah. It's a controversial call. It's not like it's definitive one way or the other. You're going to say, my team should get it. Sure.
Starting point is 00:22:14 And then when they get it, no, no, no, no, no. I'm going to challenge that. What's happening right now in the United States is that the Democrats have been doing this for a long time. Joe Biden, for instance, will engage in a quid pro quo with Ukraine, saying if you don't fire the prosecutor, not getting a billion dollars. When we say, hey, you guys broke the rules, they start laughing. You think we're playing a game with you? We don't care about that. We can get away with whatever we want, but we will wield those tools against you. That's what they're doing. So unfortunately for us, the refs are on the Jets' side right now. Oh, yeah. The refs, the commissioner, the corporate sponsor. I mean,
Starting point is 00:22:50 that's the thing is it's one thing to say the refs are with you. They got the league. They got the corporate sponsors. They got the guys who build the field. And so when you are sitting there and they keep throwing out controversial calls and giving the other team the touchdown, conservatives, independents, and disaffected liberal types, libertarians just keep going. Oh, come on, ref. Well, you know, we'll get them next time. What are you talking about? They're all laughing behind your back.
Starting point is 00:23:16 These protesters go out to the home of Supreme Court justice illegally. You can't do this. And Merrick Garland says, do not arrest them. And then you get some woman who took a picture in D.C. on January 6th. They raid her home in Alaska, even though she wasn't in the building. This has been going on for some time. Pro-life pro-life activists get their homes raided. These people get protection. I'm telling you, I just I I see I don't see it going any other way it is happening right before our eyes we hadn't we had in wisconsin these blm activists set fire to a house twice
Starting point is 00:23:52 and then when that same group showed up in front of another guy's house he brandished a firearm inside his house feeling threatened and the police came and arrested him oh i know this is they went into his house and took him and the BLM activists cheered for it. They cheered for the police. I think the thing that folks on the right have got to start understanding, in my opinion, is that this idea that there's a... I mean, this goes to exactly what you're saying,
Starting point is 00:24:17 that somehow that it's a level playing field, and that we've just... We've got to start playing by their rules and saying, fine, that we'll go out and fight. Like, this is where... we've got to start playing by their rules and and saying fine that we'll go out and fight and like this is where we've got to defund their like everyone wants to play nicey nice right so for example right now the republicans are going through this debt ceiling thing why are we not defunding everything on the left this idea that somehow it's got to be a like let's play nice with them and figure out we control the house the house controls the purse strings start defunding things stop pretending that this is a that we need to get along and get along
Starting point is 00:24:49 they they defund stuff on the right like this is there's some this level of collegiality that we believe that they'll treat us like like if they get back in power that's just never gonna happen but but so the challenge i suppose then is, if this is the direction everything is going, regardless of what we want to happen, what happens in five or 10 years? Well, here's my point. If we don't recognize what you're talking about, that the fight is on, that they are going after, they're going into, I mean, I was at this library this morning to talk about wholesome things, about patriotism, about being a good person, right? And the library, a DC public library put up pride and trans flags all over it, right? That was their counter.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Yeah, I saw those photos. Right. And this was like, we weren't there to, there was no anti-trans, anti-pride. There was no this wasn't about any like any message that was against anybody. It was literally here's a message about being a good person there. The fight is on. We either are willing to to go out there and engage or they're going to win. I kind of looked at what they're doing right now is overt acts of violence, death threats, terrorism. In Atlanta, they firebombed a government facility.
Starting point is 00:26:12 They burned down houses. They flipped over a guy's truck. And conservatives are barely mustering up speaking events. Matt Walsh was forced to cancel a speaking event over death threats. Meanwhile, they are calling for violence this weekend. They're out there. Look at this. Firearms training.
Starting point is 00:26:29 I mean, they're going out there doing this, and not one media organization will report on this tonight. Hunter Biden takes, what, $1.5 million, and people on the right get accused of making up stories. Well, Hunter's a prodigy painter. Of course. Well, he does. Those are very beautiful. get and people on the right get accused of making up stories well there are but my point is hunter's a prodigy painter of course well he does those are very beautiful but the point is is that at some point we've got to start understanding that that that the corporate media and everybody else they're not going to give us a fair shake so go out there and and stop pretending this idea that i mean i
Starting point is 00:27:03 saw a story today on the way here chris christ won't support Donald Trump if he's the nominee. Stop it. Do you think that they said that when John Fetterman was the nominee in Pennsylvania or Joe Biden was the nominee? This is this idea on the right that we're all this purity test. Give me a break. I'll vote for any Republican that's the nominee to go against Joe Biden. I mean, stop this nonsense. I just think it doesn't matter what we do.
Starting point is 00:27:30 The millennial and Gen Z generations and younger are hyper radicalized, hyper polarized. And the only thing stopping overt and direct conflict is that Gen X and boomers are still in control at the highest level of institutions. But we've got a good 10 or 20 years left before they're not. And then when you get Disney run by woke leftists and their entire worldview is solidified and they think you're a Nazi, we're already seeing what happens with Merrick Garland in control of the DOJ. He says, protect the people breaking the law that benefit us and prosecute those that even
Starting point is 00:28:06 step anywhere near the line that oppose us yeah so where are we going to be in 10 years gonna be worse well it depends on what you do for the next 10 years if i i think we should not firstly do not engage people in violence directly because that's like there's this metaphor fighting an alligator underwater you don't want to fight it underwater yeah don't do that Yeah, don't do that. Do not fight them in a place where they want you to fight them in. It's not the way. But I spent like four hours last night listening to music and realized again
Starting point is 00:28:30 for the first time again that the key moving forward is to create the culture, is to make massive ripple effects and inspire people and make people come together for something other than hate, something other than stress.
Starting point is 00:28:45 And I think that's the way forward. I think the most powerful thing people can do right now to try and reverse things and protect this country is start a business, make money, have a family, get some chickens, maybe get away from cities. I think the family and money thing is the most important. It's Mike Cernovich who's been saying this for a long time. Because if you plant those seeds right now, you build personal wealth, you build a business, you have a family. In 10 years, we won't have to worry about the levers of control.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Can I just make one point though? Because you called out my age here. I don't want to speak for Hannah Clare. But I mean as a father, as someone here, I assume, like, I sit around sometimes with parents and all their kids will have phones and I'll be like, they'll be like, oh, you know, these kids with the influences. And I'm like, you're the one who handed the kid a phone. You're the one who put the kid on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Don't tell me that you're upset about the influences that you can have. You let them have Snapchat. You let them have TikTok. You gave them a phone and now you're upset about the influences that you can have. You let them have Snapchat. You let them have TikTok. You gave them a phone and now you're complaining. I'm sorry, my kids are 12 and I didn't give them a phone. I don't allow them on TikTok. And I think that phone- At some point, be a parent.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Yeah, I think the phone argument, it's the phone, it's the Kindle, it's the iPad, it's the TV. I said this once on the show, but I think having a TV in your home is like asking a stranger off the street to come babysit your kids, right? Especially cable TV. You don't know what's going to come up on anything.
Starting point is 00:30:09 You don't know what video YouTube is going to put on next after the one that you put on for your kid that you think is innocuous. You don't know what any of the algorithms that your teens are looking at is going to generate for them. And that is so incredibly dangerous. But, Tim, you're talking about having a family and going to a farm. I mean, but part of this is, and I agree with all that, right? But in some cases, it's possible. In some cases, it's not. But I would say, regardless of whether you could move out and, you know, get a piece of land, which is, I think, a lot of people would love to do it. But in some cases, it's not possible. But when not, engage with your kids.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Find out what they're learning. I mean, the one great thing about COVID is that kids sat at a kitchen table in a lot of cases. And parents said, this is what you're learning. This is what you're reading. And they actually were able to have some discussions. But I just, you know, I think that too many times YouTube is substituting for a babysitter or substituting for parenting. Or your neighbors. I think that the core, the family is the nuclear building block of society, right? But you should know your community as well, right?
Starting point is 00:31:15 That's one of the reasons I love coming into an office. I know the people I work with. I know what's going on with their life. I think we could all be better about knowing what the other people on our street or in our building. I mean, you're right. Not everyone can move to a farm, but you could know your neighbors. You could know them better. You could build a relationship with them, especially if they are the people living next door to you.
Starting point is 00:31:33 It's one thing to follow an influencer because maybe you're interested in something they're working on or whatever else. But you can't let those parasocial bonds replace the real-life connections you can have with people. I want to jump to the story from the Post Millennial, and we'll get into the hard politics of this. We have this story. Katie Hobbs, press secretary, resigns in disgrace after posting threat of violence against, quote, transphobes on Twitter. And the important bit here is that the post was made Monday night, well after everyone
Starting point is 00:32:02 already knew the motivation of the of the well, I presumed motivation of the shooter, the identity of the shooter, and that there was a manifesto. Police had stated that they believe the identity played a role in the motivation. And then she posted a photo. It says us when we see transphobes. And it's a picture of a woman holding two handguns and clearly pointing them at someone. Many people saw this as a direct call for violence. And the crazy thing is Tucker Carlson did a segment about this last week where he said these people want to get guns. He was talking about trans activists taking up guns and the threat of violence. And then sure enough,
Starting point is 00:32:35 only that he was roasted for it. The left attacked him for it. Then come Monday, we get this. This woman posted this photo and left it up for days she she did not take this down it was it was taken down by twitter i do not believe she would have taken it down or resigned unless she absolutely had to because this borders on criminal activity borders on i don't think she created information that is a clear and present threat but based on the call to the trans day of vengeance and what happened on monday she's basically there already. I think these people, you saw what happened with the Covington kids. You brought up Nick Sandman. They called for the death of children all because a video emerged showing a Native American banging
Starting point is 00:33:18 a drum in his face. That's all it was. When I saw that video, everyone's like, wow, Tim, you got to see this video, say something about it. And I was like, what is there to say? I don't know what happened. It's a kid with a guy banging a drum in his face. And they were like, yeah, but look at that kid. Look what he's doing. I'm like, what is he doing? He's standing there.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Sure enough, I found the live stream that showed the Native American man walked up to the kid and banged a drum in his face. And I'm like, why are y'all mad at the kid? One guy posted a picture of a wood chipper with blood coming out of it. One guy, I think it was Reza Aslan, said the kid was punchable. These people are a zombie mob. They would not apologize to take this down unless they were forced to do so. And when all that went down, many of them didn't.
Starting point is 00:33:58 They were calling for the death of children. They didn't care about the facts. They didn't care about what was true. And the media lied to defend the mob this is why i'm really worried especially about this weekend because i can't see this going in a positive direction not in the not not in the in the short term i i mean that we're we're getting to a tipping point and that's what i think worries me is that what what is acceptable right that that do they you know, what sort of act of violence? Because this would have normally gotten complete outrage.
Starting point is 00:34:35 The idea that this is happening, you talking about it is probably the extent that we're going to see of it. It doesn't make ABC News. It doesn't make the Washington Post or the New York Times. Well, I guarantee if this was, if you take out Katie Hobbs and you write Glenn Youngkin
Starting point is 00:34:49 or Ron DeSantis, Lester Holt's leading with this tonight. Let's go back to the sports metaphor or analogy. If you went to a bar surrounded by everyone wearing the same jersey and said something disparaging about the Jets, everyone's going to laugh. No one's going to go, hey, look, man, look.
Starting point is 00:35:06 It was a little too far. They may be a different team, but we're all just trying to be friends. They'd be like, yeah, and they'd high-five you. They don't care when you insult the opposing team. The only problem is a friendly sports game, it's fun to have that kind of rivalry, and it's almost sometimes it gets out of hand, especially with soccer hooligans and stuff. But the hokey, like my team is better than yours, is all in good fun. And we want our teams to win.
Starting point is 00:35:31 The problem with this is they're telling everyone it's life or death. They're saying the right wants to commit a genocide. Well, that level of rhetoric is in the real world. And these are people who have guns and are doing firearms training. Now, what we saw on Monday, they've been planning for things like this these far-left extremists but the thing that i find funny too is it's the opposite right i i don't really care i mean to be honest with you like my my view has always been and i think generally speaking people on the right are like hey go live your life i don't really care right i mean that's generally people on the right generally
Starting point is 00:36:04 are like laissez-faire about what you want to do with your life that's generally people on the right generally are like, laissez faire about what you want to do with your life. It's the people on the left that are the most intolerant. They preach tolerance, but they're the ones who actually want to come out and attack people on the right. They love to preach about this idea of tolerance. But their idea of tolerance is agree with me about being tolerant. It's hard for me not to wonder if this sort of, you're right, it won't get picked up everywhere. But a fair number of people have talked about this tweet and how it seems just obviously inappropriate, uncalled for, completely insensitive. It makes me wonder, independents, how they'll react to it.
Starting point is 00:36:48 People who are sort of not very political, they might lean a little bit left, they might lean a little bit right, but watching the ground beneath them shift and totally split, they're going to have to make a decision on which side they fall. And I can't say that this is enticing anyone to think highly of Katie Hobbs. Obviously, it's not her official account. It wasn't from her. It's just someone who was in her administration. I think these moments where you have people siding with someone who literally murdered children and three adults, you know, it comes down to the independent voters. What are they going to do? They're probably going to side, many of them, like cowards, with whoever's in power. But I think, but my point is this. If they're, if that, if they're never presented with that choice.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And that's what I would argue, is that if you walk down the street tomorrow in any place, they're going to say, I didn't hear about this. I mean, I would say this all the time. When I used to work at the RNC and I'd call a reporter up and say, hey, when I used to, I'd get a call and say, little Tommy at Jefferson Middle School
Starting point is 00:37:39 did the following bad. What's the RNC's position? We get called for everything. And then some prominent Democrat would do something outrageous. And I outrageous and i think did you guys call the dnc for comment every washington post new york times oh we didn't even know that that occurred i think how did you not know this nancy pelosi's the you know minority leader speaker of the house whatever position you have well we didn't hear about it so they never report on these things
Starting point is 00:38:00 so i guarantee you the problem is that this is my point that the that no one in the middle is going to hear about this because the nbc news is in the washington post aren't going to report on it so the person in the middle isn't going to even know that it occurred except moderates do consume some conservative media people a lot of people watch this show that are in the middle yeah well and that's again there's i'm not saying that enough people but the majority of americans when they wake up tomorrow morning and watch, you know, Good Morning America, The Today Show or CBS, it's not going to pop up there. Whereas if it was a Glenn Youngkin or a Ron DeSantis or a Kristi Noem, they'd see it. You know, you mentioned tolerance earlier and how the left and the liberal mind used to be the tolerant, the side of tolerance.
Starting point is 00:38:42 And then I, because I used to be like that. I'm like, accept everybody's cool whatever and then you get these kind of these behaviors of intolerance that come in and you're like well i'll tolerate it because i'm tolerance and then the system starts to become intolerant i'm like am i supposed to not tolerate intolerance because then i'm the intolerant one and and then what then i'm the villain it's like that that music video tim that you did will of the people like am i supposed to say no this villain is a villain and i do not tolerate it then i become the villain like at what point where's the balance but i feel like you have to be able to say what your personal values are right like you shouldn't tolerate things that fly directly in your face i love the idea of let
Starting point is 00:39:18 everyone live and let live but in reality that's impossible to do unless you have a common set of values. So you're coming to the adult realization of conflict, Ian, where there is no end point. There is no position of absolute moral authority. So you take a look at what the left does. They seem to operate not on principle, but on collective vision. If the zombie horde of the left deems it so, they do it, even if it's hypocritical to their previous stance. You see this with we talked about the other day. Brett brought it up. Defiant elves where that that dash guy posts, you know, this is why the Republicans want to get rid of the FBI.
Starting point is 00:39:57 And then a few months later, he's like, we should completely get rid of the FBI. Like, there's no there's no logic other than does it benefit me or not and so the issue is one one thing that i've talked about people need to understand is here's the question should parents have final say in whether or not their children receive a medical treatment would you say yes or not 100 so then what about the parents that want to give their kids sex changes should the government then intervene and stop them from doing so? I think below 18, I mean, if it's a life altering change. My point is simply this. The left argues parents should have a final say in their child's development only if it pertains to their ideological value.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Then when it comes to the parents who are trying to stop the kids from undergoing this, they say the parents are abusing the kids and the kids should be protected by the state. Thus, in Washington, children underage can go to a doctor and get sex changes without their parental consent. So the issue is both sides are saying the same thing. But clearly, one side is right. Well, I think their morality is based upon collectivism and not principle. Our morality is based on principle and not collectivism.
Starting point is 00:41:10 And so my view is, yeah, minors can't consent to these things. However, the challenge then becomes, we actually do think there is a point where the government should intervene and tell a parent, no, you cannot give your child this medical treatment. But I mean, think about it if if i mean so because if you take that if one were to take that view and a parent came in and said my religion believes you need to have your left arm cut off we'd say no you'd say no because that's insane like so so and again if you believe that below a certain age that you are altering a body to do something that has... Well, this is my point.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Your moral position is not simply parents have final say. A lot of conservatives kept saying this. They kept saying parents should determine what's right for their kids. So Ron DeSantis was correct to pass the parental rights and education bill. And then my response was, okay, and if the parent wants to give their child a sex change, no, no, no, not then. Then the government should intervene. And it's like, okay, so you do think there are instances where the government should intervene based on your morality. Now, I agree with you. I think we are correct. Children can't consent and they shouldn't be getting these things. But the left in Washington has an inverted
Starting point is 00:42:22 worldview where they think children should be able to go to a doctor without their parents knowing and get these treatments based on the same logic that the government should intervene if parents are abusing their kids. So we think a parent who wants to give a kid a sex change, that's abuse, and the government should stop them. For them in Washington, they think a parent who blocks a kid from getting sex change is abusing that kid, and the government should be able to stop them. For them in Washington, they think a parent who blocks a kid from getting sex changes, abusing that kid and the government should be able to stop them. They're both arguing the same sentence with a different, it's like Scott Adams says, it's one screen, but two different
Starting point is 00:42:54 movies being played to two different groups of people. That's why I'm like, I don't see how you're going to be able to go to those people and convince them. But anyway, back to what you were saying, Ian, my point is this, that's why the statues rotate and there's always a new villain. When, for those that don't know the reference, we produced a music video several years ago where these people are pulling down a statue and it's a wheel. A new statue comes up when one statue gets pulled down. And then they pull the next one down and another one comes up and the wheel turns. There's a new statue every time. When group A gets their leader put in power, group A doesn't revolt against him. The next revolution is from group B. Group B tears down
Starting point is 00:43:32 the statue of command of Captain A, and then group C protests group B. So if you get a Donald Trump in power, it's not like one day Trump supporters go out and stage a revolution. No, the Trump supporters are happy with Trump. It's the left that comes out and stages the culture revolution. Then when they put Biden in, it's the Trump supporters that try to remove. So that's why there's always going to be this cycling, this wheel at cycling. But as we develop two generations of youth hyper-polar you are you are setting the stage for an outright civil war you know i think there is a potential outline silver outline to this the very
Starting point is 00:44:12 good outcome to this is is that i i kind of agree with you sean about i think if it's a life-altering surgery for a minor that maybe there should be some oversight of what a parent's going to do to a kid but i don't think that it's up to us to stop them from doing it. I think it's the kids that are getting changed that are becoming adults and realizing what did they do to me? And now they're speaking out. That was like Chloe Cole and people that have been through this and are like, I will sue these companies and maybe people will sue their parents.
Starting point is 00:44:40 I don't know how it's going to come out. But I think that generation of people are going to be the ones that speak up and speak out to others that are going through it as 13 year olds or nine year olds or whatever. Yeah. When we're talking about this, I keep thinking about this case from Canada where I think she was like 14 year old girl, was a Jehovah's Witness, and she was diagnosed with lymphoma and she needed a blood transfusion. And that went against the doctrines of her religion. And she was like, I'm not going to get it this is what my family believes i don't want to go through this and ultimately a court in canada intervened and ordered her to go through the
Starting point is 00:45:11 treatments uh she would have died from lymphoma is what they say without the treatment and the treatment would have saved will have saved her uh it's this very strange line between did she have the right to refuse it when she could have been saved? Are we infringing on her religious rights? She's 14. It's different than like a six-year-old, but she's still not an adult. At what point do we say there are some things that we do to protect your life so that you can become a full adult and make the decisions on your own? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:41 I'm going to get a naturopathic medicine. That terrifies me that I would think, no, you have to take the pharmaceutical under court order. That's ridiculous. Like you need diet and exercise and sunlight. Those things are like the basis of health. So I don't like that. But there's not really a naturopathic answer to the gender question, right? Like that would be like maybe go to therapy and talk about it with someone and wait until you're older to intervene. But with transgender issues, it has to be medical intervention. It has to be surgical.
Starting point is 00:46:10 It could be diet too. Like stress. If they're drinking a lot of Pepsi when they're, no offense, Pepsi. If they're drinking a lot of sugar when they're a little kid, that could tweak them out and make them go crazy. If they're getting Adderall when they're nine, like that's dietary. Yeah, but if your parents then also believe, yes, you are born in the wrong body and we need to intervene. It's not like they're going to be like, but if your parents then also believe, yes, you are born in the wrong body and we need to intervene.
Starting point is 00:46:25 It's not like they're going to be like, so stop drinking Pepsi and that'll cure that, you know? Like there are some issues where people's personal convictions conflate against what actually might be the safest route. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:46:38 Yep. Yeah. Okay. Well, let's jump to the next story. We have this from the New York Post. U.S. Marshals told not to arrest abortion protesters at SCOTUS justices' homes. U.S. Marshals assigned to protect Supreme Court justices' homes following the reversal of Roe v. Wade last year were directed not to arrest protesters unless absolutely necessary, according to newly revealed documents. Senator Katie Britt unveiled a series of training slides used to prepare marshals for their assignments as she grilled Attorney General Merrick Garland at a Senate Appropriations Subcommittee hearing Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:47:11 The slides instructed the marshals to avoid, unless absolutely necessary, any criminal enforcement involving protesters and that making arrests and initiating prosecutions was not the goal of their being stationed outside the residence of the court's six conservative jurists. So I think plain as day, you can see it right there. Someone showed up trying to kill Kavanaugh and his family. They said outright, no, no, no, no, no enforcement. Let them go. Let them do their thing. It's illegal, by the way. And the reason it's illegal is that I believe it was in the 50s. They said judges judges are not elected officials, or these at least, in the same way. And if judges cannot be free from political pressures, there is no justice,
Starting point is 00:47:52 because that's how the court system works. So they said, in this instance, no protesting judges. These people are now doing it. The left is defending it. Someone tried to kill this man. And Merrick Garland is saying, you're free to keep breaking the law where's where's where's the but then he did right yeah exactly and that was the problem is that it took this long too to figure it out why why i mean you know it would have been nice if you're having or his family to know this like a few months ago when it was happening but the idea that that Merrick Garland stood there today and kind of denied that he had any insight into this happening.
Starting point is 00:48:29 There are training materials. Katie Britt, the senator from Alabama, is literally posting up these slides saying, here's what this shows. And he's like, I have no idea. That's a bad sign for him. Like, why would you say I have no idea what these people who are directly
Starting point is 00:48:42 in my chain of command are doing? There's a level, there's a point at which you're either incompetent or lying, but it's one of the two. Which one is it? I mean, you either don't know what's happening in your department. Or you're lying. Because, because think about this isn't like, hey, did you know about the guard at the front gate?
Starting point is 00:48:57 Right? You know, I didn't know. Okay, well, there's 18 doors and there's a bunch of building. These are Supreme Court justices that are being threatened. And you're the guy that's saying, I'm going to send U.S. marshals to augment the security. At some point, wouldn't you know about what they call the rules of engagement? Like, hey, what are you telling these guys? Yeah. And what information was given to the justices? Exactly. Can you imagine being Brett Kavanaugh and saying, you know, shouldn't I be able to
Starting point is 00:49:21 move my family out of the area? I mean, if you don't think protesters are going to be, I mean, what's the point? You're just going to station there so the protesters can be outside, terrify the family, potentially get more raucous. It could get more dangerous. And you're going to say that, well, we're going to avoid arresting them for as long as possible. Like you're not really protecting them. It's because you're really gambling with their children. Merrick Garland was supposed to be on the Supreme Court. At least that's what he's probably thinking. So he's probably smiling and laughing as this happens.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Well, he's also pissed about the decision. Well, of course. Right? He's like, you know what? You want to vote against Roe? You know what? I'm not having your, I don't have your back. Well, he's thinking it should have been me.
Starting point is 00:50:00 It should have been me. And I wouldn't have, this wouldn't have happened. Yep. He's probably sitting there laughing so he's saying they deserve this yeah
Starting point is 00:50:07 like that's craziness I mean come on these people are clearly insane you know so he's I imagine he's sitting there laughing about this being like
Starting point is 00:50:15 you shouldn't have been there in the first place it's your own fault this is so horrible I have something I want to say that I'm not comfortable saying on YouTube it's so dark
Starting point is 00:50:22 this is so ridiculous I'm going to write it down and talk about it on the after show. So now we definitely have to go to the after show. Here's the other thing that I would just say that is interesting because this has started to, whether or not it's a Supreme Court justice, it's a government official, it's a member of Congress. You talked about Matt. There's a point at which people start to say, I'm not running for office.
Starting point is 00:50:45 I'm not serving. I'm not speaking out. I'm not whatever it is. There's a level of which this is not worth it anymore. And you talk about Matt Walsh speaking out, Brett Kavanaugh serving as a Supreme Court, and so-and-so running for office, so-and-so serving in the government. At some point, you say, this isn't, I'm going to shut up. Whether serious or not, there have been people who have been like, Tim, you should run, you
Starting point is 00:51:10 should run. And my response is, I could not imagine having all of the problems of fame and none of the money. If you want to be in office and politics, I think you're nuts. Because Kavanaugh makes, what, like $270,000 a year, and he's got people outside his home threatening his family's life. One guy tried to kill him and his family. And I'm like, man.
Starting point is 00:51:29 So you must really want that job and really believe in it to live that way. I mean, not just that. Look at the lies they spread about people like Matt Gaetz. Dude's not making a whole lot of money doing this. I'm surprised there are people who want it. Donald Trump lost money his his his taxes only showed that as president he was losing money and still giving away his salary it's amazing they were like once we get his tax return we're gonna prove oh he was losing money ha ha he lost
Starting point is 00:51:55 money it's like so you're saying he made a huge personal sacrifice to be president come on spare me at the very beginning of this story i missed a part of what you were saying about what merrick garland says he didn't know which was was these guys, these six guys orders. Is that what it was? No. So there's these slides come out today. Katie Britt, the senator from Alabama, while he's at the subcommittee, basically puts up a series of training slides that they were given to the U.S. marshals. Right. they were given to the u.s marshals right and the training slides are basically saying don't don't
Starting point is 00:52:26 arrest these protesters as they engage with these supreme court justices as they i mean tim's pointing out like it's illegal what the if you go protest at their houses if okay and there should be arrested and the training slides are like hey hands off guys don't don't do it just let them be on their way outright telling cops not to enforce the law. And then Merrick says he didn't know. And the cops said, you got it, buddy. Don't worry.
Starting point is 00:52:49 These cops, I got to tell you, man, this is where you get me right up to the defund the police, abolish the police. And we've talked about it before. These are the people who will pull you over for a minor infraction
Starting point is 00:53:00 and say, tell it to a judge and give you no leeway. These are people that shut down businesses during COVID and arrested men and women for simply trying to sell coffee. And then when they're witnessing something overtly illegal on the books, they're told by the superiors, don't arrest them. Can I tell you this? But I will say this. I haven't talked to a lot of buddies of mine in law enforcement. This is the stuff that irks them.
Starting point is 00:53:26 That they're like, I want to do my job. I cannot. They didn't get into law enforcement to stand there. They could arrest them. If that's what they're told, they can't. Yes, they can. Well, I mean, then they get. Then they immediately get released.
Starting point is 00:53:41 In New York City, there are police officers. There's this funny story where this morbidly obese older woman walks around with no shirt on. And in New York, it's legal for women to be topless because of equality ruling in the courts. And there are cops who know she's allowed to do it. They don't care. They arrest her anyway. They say, man, put a shirt on.
Starting point is 00:53:58 She goes, no, we're arresting you. Because in their mind, and then she sues and she wins every time. She's done a bunch of times. It's a ridiculous story. The problem is these cops are cowards. They're absolute cowards and nothing will convince me otherwise. There is, these are the kind of cops that are like, they instructed me to shoot the dog or they told me I had to arrest the old lady.
Starting point is 00:54:18 I have no choice but to violate the rights of people because someone else told me to do it. I look forward to if it ever comes down to hearings on COVID lockdown and the violations of law, we're having these cops come in and firing them and stripping them of their pensions and saying, now you can live in a cardboard box because you thought it was prudent to ignore your oath to uphold the law because your political boss told you not to enforce it. I won't play those games. And we need a politician. Maybe it's not gonna be a politician.
Starting point is 00:54:50 We need an elected official who the first thing they do is they call in the federal police officers and they say, which one of you did not enforce the law? All of you, you're all fired. And I'm going to see to it. Your family never sees a fucking penny. And they go, oh, but I was told just not to enforce the law and let far left extremists go in front of judges' homes and threaten their lives. Well, that's too fucking bad for you. These guys, these cops need to be the first in line to feel the punishment. Because as long as these cops are allowed to keep breaking the law, ignoring the law, or enforcing fake laws, the system is completely broken.
Starting point is 00:55:25 When I see salon owners get arrested under unconstitutional edict, when I see churches shut down and police officers enforcing the shutdown of churches in violation of the Constitution, with Cuomo saying, even though the Supreme Court of New York ruled against me, I'm not allowed to do this, I'll just create another executive order and do it anyway. You know why? Because these cocksucker cops will absolutely enforce edict from these executives, even if it's against the law, because no one will go to them as individuals and say, I will destroy you for enforcing this bullshit. People keep making excuses for the cops who are doing this. And if it's not the cops, it doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:56:05 If there were no police officers, there would be no unconstitutional lockdown. If there were no cops, there would be no churches shut down during COVID. And everyone gave them a free pass. When the cops went to that gym, Attilis, in New Jersey and arrested the people outside of it, or I think the owners got huge fines, got shut down. Everyone's like, well, I don't blame the cops. They're being told to do it. No, no, I blame them twice as much now because the worst thing the cops, the cops could have done, they can do, they can say, if you're telling me to not enforce the law, I will not show up. I will not swear an
Starting point is 00:56:38 oath to uphold the law and the constitution and then have you tell me to break that oath. But these are oath breakers. These are pieces of human trash. I have no respect for them at all. And if it were up to me, and if I was ever in office, and I would request this right now, and I know no one's going to do it because our politicians are all cowards. I'm giving no respect and no benefit to any Republican because none of them will do it. I want them to take a single officer from that photograph, get their name, plaster it in Congress and say, I am coming for you. I am going to take from you your pension and your retirement. And I want your family to know it's because you refuse to uphold the law.
Starting point is 00:57:15 If you come into this office, if you put on that badge and say outright, it's someone else's fault, I won't do my job. I will make sure you lose everything. Because if you don't want to do your job, this job's not for you. You can resign right now. No one's going to do it. No one's going to do it. Conservatives are going to keep licking the boots of these cops who bashed them over the head during COVID and who refuse to enforce the law to protect our justices. If the judges can't issue rulings because they're under threat of death, there can be no justice. And these cops are going, but it's not my fault. I was told not to enforce the law. Okay, then get out. Fire them. Rant over.
Starting point is 00:57:51 If a cop's superior officer says, today we're going to violate the law, and the cop's like, no, I'm not. And then they go and they arrest the guy anyway. Is it a legal arrest? Because the superior officer said it's don't arrest him, but the lower rank did it. It's it a legal arrest? Because the superior officer said it's don't arrest them, but the lower rank did it. It's still a legal arrest. Police officers can arrest you. A cop can walk up to you on the streets of New York, put you in cuffs, bring you in. They don't got to read you your rights or do anything. Now, later on, there will have to be some kind of justification for the arrest. And often you'll get civil suits. When far left extremists staged an insurrection at Donald
Starting point is 00:58:25 Trump's inauguration and set vehicles on fire, set fires in the streets and smashed windows up, the city ended up paying them. The government, DC, tried charging the far left extremists with conspiracy because they all wore black. And the courts ruled you cannot charge a group. You need to tell us which individual broke the law. And because you can't, they're free to go. And you violated their rights and paid a multimillion dollar settlement to the extremists. So when I see this, I see pathetic, feckless cowards. And the only way this stops is when these cops say, with all due respect, superior officer,
Starting point is 00:59:03 there is nothing you can instruct me to do that will stop me from enforcing the law. The law in the book says they can't do it. I will arrest them on site. You got a problem with that? Put me somewhere else. And then what happens when no cops show up at all? What happens when they say either we enforce the law or we will not stand in front of these homes? Because you realize what these cops are being told to do, right? They're being told to stand in front of a building where people are threatening death against these justices. And they're told you can do nothing to stop them.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Nothing. You can't arrest them unless absolutely necessary. OK, so there's some leeway there. These cops should all walk away and say, assign us somewhere else. We're not going to we're not going to we're not going to try to protect a house with our hands tied behind our backs. But they're all cowards. They're all cowards.
Starting point is 00:59:47 There's very few good cops. Many of them resigned. Almost all of them are cowards. And they're like, you don't understand. My boss won't let me do it. If I was a cop and I was in front of that house, I'd walk right up to the lead organizer and say, put your hands behind your back and I would arrest them on the spot. And then I would say, I will get fired before I let you do this.
Starting point is 01:00:04 But these cops won't do it because they're cowards. Meanwhile, there's a woman who opened a cafe in Minnesota, and then they threatened her with arrest. And sheriffs and the deputies hunted her down in Iowa, found her, and arrested her. A salon owner in Texas got arrested, and it was only because I think Abbott intervened she got released. In New Jersey, we saw the Attila's gym get shut down. These lockdown orders were
Starting point is 01:00:26 unconstitutional and illegal and the police with smiles on their faces shut these businesses down it's important what you're saying it is because this is what happened in nazi germany is there's this argument of we were just following orders it's very i think i look i will say this at some point though the the people who are there there is an element of the people who are telling them not to do it are ultimately the ones that need to be held accountable more than anything else. Well, sure, but like if a mob boss instructs his henchman to go rob a bank, do we just say, well, it's not the henchman's fault? No, no, no. But of course not and that's who gets ultimately but but at some point that's why there's like a rico statue that goes
Starting point is 01:01:10 after the guy at the top but at some point it is these guys and that's what you can't like we're we're letting off somebody a mayor you know in the case of of of these of the gym in new jersey or the county commissioner somebody said shut that gym down or shut that church down. These are the people that we should name names for, though, more than anything else. I disagree. Oh, if we start a list, that's where it starts. If a mayor or a governor stands on top of a giant stone and says, I hereby call upon all of my officers to shut down businesses. And all those officers look at him and go, go fuck yourself. Nothing happens. The words are
Starting point is 01:01:51 meaningless. But at some point, and again, we are a country of law. That mayor, that county commissioner or whatever was elected, right? And so that's the person that is held accountable more than anything else. Who holds them accountable? What's the structure here? So like with a cop who violates an order or acts against people, you know, maybe they get fired,
Starting point is 01:02:15 maybe they themselves face consequences. But when you move up the change, who's holding them accountable? I think that's the challenging part of this. What I'm saying is somebody is giving the order and ultimately that is the person that is most accountable no absolutely not yes of course the person taking the action is most accountable the person who incites or instructs has some accountability but it is these individual officers who are doing it look i at some point that they're
Starting point is 01:02:38 like you can't tell me i mean that's that's like in the military at some point that the job of the of the person who executes the order if it is is a lawful order, their job is to execute it. Somebody at the top gave that order. That's the person that's accountable. And it's also the law that if they are given an unlawful order, they must disobey it. I feel like we all need to watch A Few Good Men. That's really what this is coming down to. Is telling police officers to ignore the law a lawful order?
Starting point is 01:03:04 But that's that. And again, my point is, or and again, I don't, I think in each circumstance, and I do the Supreme Court one. I agree with you like that. That's I mean, in terms of the law, as I read it was very clear about both in terms of the federal statute, the US code. And there's actually a Virginia misdemeanor law that's on the books in terms of – for the justices that live in Virginia. But on the other ones, I don't know what the town ordinances were and blah, blah, blah. But – because I think in each case, there isn't a difference what those town ordinances were. But it is the elected official's ultimate response – response person that is ultimately responsible so the
Starting point is 01:03:45 reason why um this country has the degree of stability it has which is also in decay it's specifically because of police i've heard so many stories and i've experienced this uh i remember a great story i was told where uh i don't know if it was a public story so i should probably keep some of it vague but driving and speeding in r, an individual told me that they got pulled over and the cop just, you know, rubs his fingers together. And they say, here you go. And the cop says, have a good day. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:15 And then he says, actually, if I give you extra, will you pull this guy behind me over? And he goes, sure. That's corruption. What these officers are engaged in is abject corruption. So they're saying, I will not take any responsibility for the actions that I take. I will not take any responsibility for the instructions given. It's always someone else's fault, which means these officers are only working for their own personal gain. And this means, let me finish this. If each individual officer said, I will uphold the
Starting point is 01:04:45 Constitution and you give me an instruction that's bad, I will defy it. Then we would have the most secure and protected culture in this country. You'd have cops saying, I'm not going to unjustly arrest someone. You'd have cops saying, I am not going to ignore the law to benefit a politician. But you look at what's happening in New York, for instance. The city illegally seizes taxpayer dollars to spray, to paint Black Lives Matter in front of Trump Tower as a political statement, and then gets 27 NYPD to protect it. And those cops say, you got it. That's aiding and abetting a crime.
Starting point is 01:05:19 But they don't care. So long as we keep making excuses for cops and saying, it's not the cop's fault. It's the person instructed. I'm i i look i will just say this at the end of the day if if you're a cop and a city official comes in and says i am telling you that as the the the legal counsel for the city this is a lawful order your job isn't to be to interpret the law their job is to to your point i agree with you in the sense that their job is to it is to interpret the light is no it isn't it's to enforce the law so when if they are told that that this is a lawful order what's what's an improper lane change when you cross over the yellow line or the white line depending i mean a cop has to interpret your
Starting point is 01:06:02 action as unlawful no it doesn't doesn't. The law is crystal clear. I mean, in terms of it's written down and it says if you don't put a blinker on and da-da-da-da. I mean, it's actually written down. And the cop could argue, so this is actually something funny that comes up in Chicago. Slamming your brakes on a yellow light is illegal. You get pulled over for it. It's reckless. It's abrupt stopping, they call it.
Starting point is 01:06:24 A police officer has to interpret your action as crossing the line. What if you go through a yellow light right at the last second and the cop says, I think it was red? The cop has to make the ultimate decision themselves whether to pull you over and criminally cite you. You can go to a court. You can ask a judge. But the police officer makes the determination.
Starting point is 01:06:41 I have been in too many circumstances where there have been there's been clear evidence of crimes committed against me. And the cops say, look, we're not going to pursue this. It's a waste of our time. The police officer choosing how to interpret the law. So these officers should be enforcing it. And what's happening now is too many people as like the left just wants to destroy policing, which is insane, but too many people on the right excuse bad policing. This is the erosion. Look, I think there's a difference. And I get that.
Starting point is 01:07:17 There are differences between we've all had, or not everyone, but a lot of us have traffic infractions where the cop comes up and says, look, I get it. Or, hey, we even ask them sometimes. Hey, I was in a hurry. Can you give me a little latitude on this? There's a big difference between that and something where maybe they did ask and again i don't look i know too many cops that put their life on the line every day and maybe they did push back and say i don't agree with you on this and a legal counsel comes in and says i'm sorry this is what we interpret the law i quit huh i quit okay and maybe they should have or should have, but who knows? I don't.
Starting point is 01:07:46 I just assume the good. I know too many of these guys that put their life on the line so that, you know, and you know what? As a guy that has dealt with enough threats, I know too many of these guys that have said, I'll walk through that door and I'll be there for you. You know what? They're enforcers for the cult. They are what's stopping us from ending the corruption.
Starting point is 01:08:09 These officers, specifically in this image, are the officers who are enforcing the corruption of the machine. When far-left extremists plan violent actions, these cops stand down. When a bunch of bumbling dotards walk through a door at the Capitol building, these people hunt them down. So I am not giving them any grace, none at all. Do you think they have a righteous justification to arrest their commanding officer if they're given an illegal order? I think, look, their life on the line to save innocent lives. Look at the guys in Nashville this week. Michael Colazzo and Rex Engelbert.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Yeah. Those guys, they woke up. They didn't need someone to tell them what the law was. They woke up and said, we're going to save lives today and you know what i need more of those guys every day that say i'll go do what it takes to save kids meanwhile someone showed up at brett kavanaugh's house intending to kill and kidnap his family and these cops are like well you know we were instructed not to arrest these extremists so we won't and and here's my point tim i don't know what they were told you did get arrested though right i'm talking about the other people who are outside illegally right and and again
Starting point is 01:09:27 but but i don't presume that that that's how that went down and maybe you're right but but my point is is that for all i know those six guys said bs i'm pushing back on you and i'm gonna fight every day and call my union rep and say that this is ridiculous or now I'm going to resign or I want to be reassigned on this. But I just, and I hold the guys that told them not to do their job more accountable. I just watched it. I watched that video so long ago of the cops showing up to some guy's house, going into his home and arresting him when a violent mob showed up in front of his house, creating a very visible imminent threat to his life. They had set fire to another building previously and the cops go to his house and they arrest him. Listen, I watched when I was downtown and I'm watching the BLM stuff go down.
Starting point is 01:10:20 There are days when I watch stuff happen and i'm going are you kidding me this person is literally committing a crime i'm watching people get hit nothing is happening so there are instances where i'm i'm watching this stuff happen but i hold the elected officials in this city and around america accountable for saying this is because they're so if if if if a commanding officer a superior officer for these police said listen from now on when you pull someone over give them and give them an opportunity to pay their traffic ticket in cash and then bring that cash back to me and we'll take care of it for you and they go okay you got it boss or would we be like yeah that's that's not you can't do that
Starting point is 01:10:59 well hold on he's not saying take bribes, saying pay their fine. He's not telling cops to give fake tickets. He's saying let the individual pay the fine immediately in cash if they do break the law. Then what? Are we going to tolerate that? No, then you get the commanding officer on video saying it and you expose him with something like Project Veritas. That's what should be happening. So we are having it exposed right now that these officers were instructed not to arrest people in clear violation of the law. It's obviously political. While this is happening, pro-life activists are having cops kick their doors in and arrest them. We're seeing the enforcement of red flag laws. We saw a woman who was wrongly raided by feds in Alaska because she looked like someone who is inside the Capitol. She happened to have been in D.C., but she didn't go in the building or break any laws. They still kick her door and raid her house. So these cops have no problem doing that. They have no problem shutting down churches.
Starting point is 01:11:54 I think that to me is like the most egregious thing, because here we have a clear, we have an oath to uphold the Constitution. The right to peaceably assemble and practice your religion shall not be infringed. It is the first amendment. And across this country, police officers with smiles on their faces locked down churches. Now, I get it. Any violation of free speech or right to practice is wrong. But isn't that very obvious to you?
Starting point is 01:12:19 These guys are responsible for doing it. I don't care who instructed it. It's this guy who shows up to your church who put a padlock doing it. I don't care who instructed it. It's this guy who shows up to your church who put a padlock on it or when they padlocked parks in the Jewish community. Look, again, I think there's a big difference if a local official, if an elected official or an unelected official says the new city ordinance 126 says all churches shall be closed. Here's the ordinance. Go do it. That's a lawful order the cop's job is not yes it is the constitution is a supreme law okay but but my point tim is that if a judge
Starting point is 01:12:52 okays it or for whatever the cop doesn't is not the cop's job is to execute orders it's not the cop's job to uphold the constitution yes how can you uphold the constitution when you're barring churches doors look do i did i i literally when was appalled i agree with you i did not think a single church should ever be closed this is abhorrent to me but my point is that we're holding the wrong people accountable so the guy who literally shut the church down isn't accountable for the guy who's it's not but what if cop, so like the summer that we had all the riots in 2020. You swear an oath to uphold the Constitution, then with a smile on your face, don't uphold the Constitution, violate it, that's you. But it's not, they don't get to call balls and strikes. They don't get to decide, this is not, that's not their job.
Starting point is 01:13:40 How do you uphold the Constitution if you then shut a church down? Because every cop cop how many cops are there in every city they don't get to go around interpreting it that's not the job of a cop so if you swear an oath to uphold the constitution first every military officer every single officer swears an oath they don't get to decide what what it's yes they do it's actually the law no they actually say it the the oath says that they have to obey lawful orders. They don't get to interpret them. And how can it be lawful if it violates the Constitution outright?
Starting point is 01:14:14 But the point is that that's what legal counsel does is they say it's a legal order. And then what I would say, because I'm not a coward, is I will not follow that order, and I will take legal counsel to court and ask a judge first. Get someone else to do it, or I'll quit. Okay. Well, unfortunately, if we don't have, then we don't have a system of laws. No, actually, we don't have a system of laws because
Starting point is 01:14:38 cops won't follow the law. But if every, I don't disagree with, again, you and I are on the same team in terms of where the outcome should be. But what I'm saying is if every single cop is going to say, again, you and I are on the same team in terms of where the outcome should be. But what I'm saying is if every single cop is going to say, great, you know what? I'm going to just start going to opposing every order I get because maybe five cops. Because if a cop says, hey. Police should not shut down churches is a simple and finite granular point to be made.
Starting point is 01:15:03 That one was obvious and the police enforced it those are bad cops who should be criminally charged in my opinion for constitutional violations end of story i'm thinking about suspension of habeas corpus and how it's happened a few times or at least abe lincoln did it uh and then like you'd be this would be a conversation we'd be having about abe lincoln suspending habeas corpus for the civil war. If he hadn't done it, you could argue they wouldn't have won the civil war. Uh, I think what he, that was specifically a corridor going from DC, uh, up, up to Philly because Maryland was a slave state and there was concerns about sympathies in Maryland. Maryland was like one third sympathetic to the South. So not only did he
Starting point is 01:15:43 suspend habeas corpus going up to this corridor, he actually had a bunch of state reps, delegates arrested. I mean, yeah, the dude, exigent circumstances, call it whatever you want, but the Civil War was nuts. And they called COVID an exigent circumstance, obviously. What I'm seeing here is if individual officers keep playing this game of, it's not my fault, sorry, I was told to do it. Then we don't have a system of laws because we have corrupt politicians and cowards everywhere
Starting point is 01:16:10 because Bill de Blasio broke the law, stealing taxpayer dollars to paint a political message in front of Trump Tower. And the police said, look, I'm just going to protect it because I was told to do so. It's like, OK, well, you well yo if the mayor goes and robs a bank and you stand there protecting him as he does it you are a bank robber but that's a crime so is so so look shutting down a church is a crime right but wait you don't have the right to kidnap people and shut down their churches it violates every like the core tenants of this nation the founding of freedom of religion and the right to peaceably assemble. We have laws protecting. I agree with you on that. I'm not like, again, I'm with you on that. This it's just this is the corruption of American civilization, of American society and
Starting point is 01:16:54 this nation that police no longer have moral standards. Don't know, don't care. And our politicians don't either. And so the politicians say, if I get an office, I can give unconstitutional orders to police. I will never be held accountable and neither will the police. That's where we are right now based on this logic. The only solution is to tell these cops, you know what? When I'm in power, I'm going to make sure you feel it down to the bone. But here's the point. The they is who I'm saying hold accountable.
Starting point is 01:17:23 But that's impossible it's not because you're saying your whole point is when the they is in power my point is then that's who you should be holding accountable i don't i don't everybody you can't the cops no no but you're saying when when you or who this theoretical person gets in power, you hold the cops accountable. No, always the cops accountable. But my point is, in order to hold the cops accountable, you have to be in power, right?
Starting point is 01:17:52 So that person is the person that's causing the problem. Whoever that is. Yeah, I think it's an interesting point. Like if you have a cop who shouldn't have shut down a church, where do you take them to, right? Do you take them to their commanding officer who as you're pointing out that's what i'm saying
Starting point is 01:18:07 we need politicians to make sure each and every one of these officers feels the terror in their bones get the politician who's doing it is the person to blame well who is it that makes literally no sense i'm sorry it just doesn't make sense i kind of if a guy walks up to a lady punches a lady and punches her in the face, I'm not going to say, who told you to do that? I'm going to say you're under arrest for punching a lady in the face. But you're saying that we need politicians who will do this, right? Who will hold cops accountable. My point is there is a cop that's telling the – a politician that's telling the cop to shut down a church, right? Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:41 Okay. So hold that politician accountable. And then when you get in office, you go to those cops and you strip them of their pensions and hope they get on their knees and beg and cry. And you say, I don't care. You're a bad person. You are evil and you are plaguing this country. So who's the politician that's accountable for this? Who did this?
Starting point is 01:18:57 Merrick Garland. So Merrick Garland said he didn't know. This is something I want to bring up because Matt Gaetz just was grilling or talking to Milley, General Milley, and talking about all these trans or drag shows on military bases. And Millie was like, I didn't know about that. Four of them? I had no idea. Send me that data.
Starting point is 01:19:13 Really? Really, Mark? You didn't know? You didn't know in your military that that was happening? You just didn't know? Yeah, well, I mean. You had no idea? So, Merrick Garland, you had no idea?
Starting point is 01:19:20 Had no idea that that was an issue? Really? This deniability thing is insane. James Clapper, you had no idea they were spying on americans none it's always said before either they're incompetent or they're lying and neither one is a good look so this can you arrest people for incompetence like if if a violated law is given out and enforced in a guy's system is the guy at the very top responsible for not knowing can i get back to the to the point that you're getting at, right? So there is a Supreme Court police force. When this all went down, Garland assigned U.S. marshals to protect these guys.
Starting point is 01:19:51 So he took an action. He assigned U.S. marshals to protect the justices. Then Katie Britt says today, hey, these justices, I mean, these marshals were told not to do anything and garland says i didn't know anything about it but you're the guy who's assigned the marshals in the first place they wouldn't have been doing the action in the first place if you garland hadn't assigned them so garland is basically like i i'm the one who made them go there, but then I had no idea what they were doing. That makes no sense.
Starting point is 01:20:29 If just the simple point is these bad things only happen because human beings do them. It doesn't matter who the boss is. Like when the banks fail, we don't arrest the people at the top of the banks. Right. What ends up happening is some like senior VP guy who signed off on something ends up getting fined or something like that. There's always an excuse to protect the people in power when when it comes down to it. And because there's no actual mechanism, because because I think a large portion of police
Starting point is 01:20:58 officers are cowardly and corrupt, there's never going to be any law enforcement action against corrupt officials. And then what happens is regardless of who gets into power, they're happy to have a mindless moron force who will do whatever they're told. They all are. There was a lawsuit in New York. Apparently, they won't hire police officers who have IQs above a certain number. And the argument they made was, well, they get bored and they quit. So we want stupid people. Well, because stupid people don't know what the law is and don't question, just do as they're told. But that's a problem. This is what's corrupting this country. If every police officer had scruples,
Starting point is 01:21:31 then you would have these drag shows being shut down. They're already illegal. You would not have at these pride events, for instance, where as long as I've known about them, people dance around naked and engage in overtly illegal, obscene behavior in public. But police are like, I'm not getting involved in that because they're cowards, because they're cowards who don't care about their community, because big cities have become just corrupt wastelands. Crime is skyrocketing for these reasons. And Luke Rutkowski pointed this out. He interviewed a guy. There was a guy who started stabbing people on a train and the cops said, I'm not getting involved because the cops are corrupt. They're not, there's, they're under no obligation to intervene to protect you. And they follow unjust and unconstitutional orders all the time. I'm done. We need someone
Starting point is 01:22:12 who gets into office. And the first thing they do is they line up all the cops. If you're the president, it's going to be the federal proactive service. It's going to be, it's going to be CBP. And they're going to look them all in the eyes and say, if you break the law or refuse to uphold the Constitution, I will make sure you feel it to your bones. You will lose your pension. You will lose your job and you will never work again. Mark my words. And if you want to quit now, quit. But the problem is politicians enjoy the fact that cops will do whatever they're told because they know that people like you, Sean, will say it's not the cops' fault. And that gives them carte blanche to do things like this. There should be no circumstance where the far left is allowed to rampage through cities, smashing windows, setting fires, setting up the Chaz, setting up the George Floyd autonomous zone, setting up the Atlanta autonomous zone. But the cops don't do anything about it.
Starting point is 01:23:04 And the politicians aren't being held accountable because in Democrat cities, for instance, who's going to hold them accountable? In Chicago, it's been Democrat rule for 100 years. So as long as these cops are good little foot soldiers, they never have anything to worry about. And that's why you end up with so much corruption in Chicago. That's what's going to happen to the rest of this country. It's going to happen to the rural areas. And it's already happening because these cops are like look boss told me not to enforce the law i ain't going to do it okay then the far left are allowed to rampage and set fires create autonomous zones literally murder people and they keep doing it aaron danielson took two to the chest sure don't get me wrong bar hunted that guy down and killed him because there's there is still a line
Starting point is 01:23:44 but because the law enforcement against the far left has been so lax and outright protected, like when Kamala Harris and Joe Biden's staff donated to bail these people out, they are encouraged to do more of it, knowing, like I mentioned, with the inauguration of Trump, 200 and some odd far left extremists who are rampaging through D.C., setting cars on fire, setting fires in the street and smashing windows, actually won and the city had to pay them. Meanwhile, when these same extremists show up to justices' homes, Merrick Garland says, protect them. And the cops go, you got it, buddy.
Starting point is 01:24:17 We'll make sure they're nice and protected. I'm thinking about like in an effort to stay idealistic, like if you gut all the entire police force because they served the Nazis or whatever like if you gut all the entire police force because they served the Nazis or whatever, then you have no more German police. Like after the leadership, I'm kind of understanding what you're saying, Sean. I kind of am with you about blame the commander.
Starting point is 01:24:34 You remove commander, you put in a just commander, and then the soldiers will immediately follow the just command. And they don't care if it's just or unjust. They're just there to serve the commander. Not really. Truly, they're there to serve the greatness of humanity or whatever it is but in in the chaos of war you serve your commander first unless they're crazy and then you serve you know the men first but i i'm i'm concerned about what merrick garland did because either this is
Starting point is 01:24:59 this is ineptitude and he didn't know what his department was doing or he issued this order to stand down. But I'll give you one. And again, I don't mean to – I look at the guys down at the Border Patrol. If you remember the guys, the horse patrol, whatever. I've had Tom Holman and I've talked to a couple of these guys, right? These guys who did the right thing, their lives are destroyed, right? So many of these cops that I've talked to and and I'm not – we're getting off on a – but there are cops that go out there and do the right thing.
Starting point is 01:25:34 Their lives get destroyed, and they're told, you arrest that guy, you arrest that person because they did that. We're going to let them out. No one has their back anymore in this country. So I'm not saying that it's perfect, but I'm telling you that in this city, you walk down the street, you ask guys that are cops, they watch that crime. They go, hey, go arrest that guy. You go, you know what they're going to do? They're going to take them. They're going to bring them down. They're going to let them right out.
Starting point is 01:25:59 And the cop goes, so what do you want me to do? I'm going to get to your point. They get, oh, you know what? You're going to get arrested. You're going to get sued because you did this. And now you're personally liable. We're going to come after you personally for doing this. And the cops like, yeah, well, cops have a, what's it called? Qualified immunity. So not tell me how much that helps them when they're, I mean, I'm just saying that the left will destroy their lives and the right does nothing, but excuse them. So I'm just I'm not interested. The watching these cops shut down churches. I was just like, how is that possible?
Starting point is 01:26:30 How is it? I thought cops were like more conservative. I watched a video of Antifa attack a guy and the cops arrested the victim because they were scared what Antifa would do. And they apologized to Antifa. I saw a video where a guy in his own home was arrested by the police as BLM cheered for the police. I thought they hated the police. No, they don't want to defund them. They want to replace them with loyal forces who will do what they say. And it's working. We watch with the Merrick Garland incident, far left extremists have battered police into absolute submission. And that's why these cops need to be held accountable. These cops need to fear the law enforcement more than they fear far left extremists.
Starting point is 01:27:07 They need to say to themselves, look, man, if I don't arrest that guy, I'm going to lose my pension. I have to arrest him. It's the law. Right now, it's the opposite. Right now, they're going, if I enforce the law against the people who control the reins of politics, they're going to come after me. I better just do nothing.
Starting point is 01:27:22 OK, well, that's a corrupt cop, in my opinion. They are sacrificing this country for personal gain. Got to get rid of them. Got to fire them. Got to strip them of their pensions. That's the only thing they'll understand. Because right now, the path of least resistance for these cops is to be corrupt and to support corrupt politicians because it's easier.
Starting point is 01:27:39 It's safer for them. You can also- Well, I want to make sure it's harder for them. You can reward them for doing the right thing. That would be like an instance of punishing them for doing the wrong thing and then additionally like what you're saying guys get their lives destroyed their livelihoods destroyed what would be a way to help them if something again i i feel like we're going we're way down a rabbit hole but but i i still don't understand this because if a cop goes out and arrests
Starting point is 01:28:00 everyone and the mayor of the city says i'm gonna let everyone out the second you arrest them and then he goes and i'll arrest him again okay and the mayor of the city says, I'm going to let everyone out the second you arrest them. And then he goes, and I'll arrest them again. Okay. And the mayor lets him out again. Then at some point, you need to get the politicians who are creating the system and change them. If you don't get those people out, the system
Starting point is 01:28:18 doesn't change. But who said anything about not doing that? I literally said we need a politician who's going to go in. That's what I, but that's why I'm saying we actually agree on that part. That's the point. And then, once they're in, they go to each individual cop who supported... But the cops are just responding to that. The
Starting point is 01:28:33 police officers as individuals need to understand they will be held responsible as individuals. So we need a politician who gets in, and the first thing he does is he goes to the corrupt officer that made illegal arrests and defended far left extremists and say, you're a collaborator and you're lucky we don't criminally charge you.
Starting point is 01:28:50 You are being stripped of your badge, stripped of your weapon, stripped of your pension. Go home. You will never work in law enforcement again. These cops that are defending corrupt politicians are the henchmen of evil, evil people. So we need a politician to go in and then start reviewing which one of these officers is corrupt. I mean, Chicago is a hell zone. There's a video of a cop,
Starting point is 01:29:12 there was an incident where a cop parked illegally and a meter maid gave him a ticket. So we went outside, grabbed her by the throat and slammed her and lifted her up by her neck, screaming at her.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Because the cops in Chicago are dirty as they come. They operate black sites where they kidnap people and torture them. There was a famous story of the guy who was cattle prodding, electrocuting people into false confessions because these cops never get held accountable. And I like the police departments. Suburban police departments that are smaller tend to be pretty good. But you get in these big cities, they're bad. You get in areas like D.C., they're bad. Someone needs to make sure we get rid of the corrupt cops and create an
Starting point is 01:29:48 institution of good cops but you you realize what you just said all of these cities are controlled by by left democrats that have been controlled by democrats forever chicago dc they're all controlled by democrats and so as long as as they're all responsive to a system. Now you get it. The police officers are enforcers for corrupt politicians. If there were no police, the corrupt politicians would be able to do nothing. They could as it is. It is plainly an obvious logic. A politician who goes outside and issues an order that is not followed has no power, none. But when you have corrupt police officers that say, yes, sir, we'll do whatever you say, then you have a problem.
Starting point is 01:30:30 Getting rid of that corrupt politician doesn't change the fact you have a corrupt police enforcement, because the next politician that gets in in these cities, in Chicago or New York, will be as corrupt, and the corrupt police will enforce the corrupt actions. But if you get rid of the officers and enforce it at the individual level, the corrupt politicians will have no power. Who's going to get rid of them? If the politician, I mean, if... Well, that's a different, entirely different argument.
Starting point is 01:30:51 The fact is, the only way you stop the corruption is to root it out. You know, cutting the top of the weed off doesn't get rid of the weeds. You got to pull it by the roots. One thing concerns me, if you remove all the officers at the bottom, that the corrupt politicians would hire mercenaries to do their job. So just getting rid of what looks like one problem doesn't necessarily mean the problem is going to go away. In some ways, it could get worse, right? Because then you have drawn a line in the sand over who is willing to work with this police commissioner or whatever the next step up is. It may be. And you're not saying, you know,
Starting point is 01:31:26 who's going to fill them, right? Like, I feel like at this point, you're saying either you take everyone out all at once or there's a chance for the problem to fester as we try and sort of sift through this, right? The issue may be that there is no way to stop the corruption because these cities will keep electing the same people who then have law enforcement who keep doing exactly as they're told regardless of what's legal or not. But the point
Starting point is 01:31:50 is the mayors, the governors have no power without the men and women in uniform to enforce their decrees. So to act like a corrupt, a large group of corrupt individuals or mostly corrupt, not all of them. I don't think all of them are, but a lot of them, especially a lot of the superiors willing to take political action instead of just action. So long as they exist, you can never stop the corrupt politicians, but a corrupt politician without law enforcement to do their bidding has no power at all. They can go outside and say, we're going to, if the cops refused to listen to Merrick Garland and said, we're going to arrest them if they break the law, then Merrick Garland would stomp his feet and be like, but I'm Merrick Garland. It's like, it's illegal to protest in
Starting point is 01:32:36 front of a Supreme Court justice's home. Nothing you say will change that. Get Congress to change the law. But for the time being, we enforce the laws it's written. Merrick Garland would just cry about it. Instead, they let Merrick Garland do these illegal things, unconstitutional things. It's selectively enforcing laws against conservatives and ignoring the far left. That I just I agree with you on. I mean, in fact, today they were literally asking Mayorkas about that with respect to the border. They literally said to him, you have the border wall is an act of Congress. It was passed. Why are you not building it? And he obfuscated a
Starting point is 01:33:11 bunch of things. I mean, there are laws. You either follow them or you don't. Yeah. Well, let's go to Super Chats. Before we get started, make sure you smash that like button and become a member at TimCast.com because we are going to have an uncensored members only portion of the show goes live about 10 10 p.m and we will select a few callers who submit questions so if you want to get instant access to the vip question submission chat room it's 25 bucks a month or if you've been a member for at least six months i know i said every time but we had to create some kind of gate to keep out extremists and activists who want to come and screw with us so we did time and we did money options but we'll be taking calls from you guys which will be a lot of fun but for now we'll read your super chats all right shadows hand says multiple schools were called with shooting hoaxes across the country today claiming that there were shooting threats
Starting point is 01:33:58 that were going to happen my niece's school is one of them no one is talking about this we we did have that plan maybe we'll talk about it in the uncensored portion. Yeah, these are the ones where the calls were coming from foreign, outside the United States. Crazy, right? Yeah. It feels like things are getting really weird. And that everyone can see where we're vulnerable, right? Yep.
Starting point is 01:34:17 I'm not your buddy, guy, says. If the devil had a cult, tell me one different thing to wokeness. They celebrate all seven deadly sins, even promote the mutilation of God's image. Yeah, I don't disagree with that. It's kind of weird, right? I think if the devil had a cult, he'd be a rock star, so watch out.
Starting point is 01:34:35 What do you mean by that, though? Lucifer? You mean like a musician? Yeah, he'd be someone that everyone loves, you know. So not Donald Trump. He could be a social media influencer media influencer big cultist on the internet have millions of followers on youtube watch out t-rex pet shop says you can find us on public square it's great vote with your dollar and stop supporting woke pet stores agreed you know and you can find businesses that do delivery and stuff too so even if they're not in your area, if you need something,
Starting point is 01:35:07 like if you need pet food or anything from a pet store, T-Rex Pet Shop. Go on Public Square app, look around for businesses and you can order from them if you're going to order anything. Let's build up that parallel economy. And you can also go to castbrew.com
Starting point is 01:35:19 and buy coffee from us. All right. Steve O says, Sean, was it difficult working on the Avengers set as Agent Coulson's stunt double? But seriously, keep speaking out in every way possible. Has anyone ever said that to you before? No. All right.
Starting point is 01:35:37 Max Reddick says, can we talk about David Pakman? This guy is losing it. I used to listen to him to see what the left thinks and is saying about current issues, but he constantly strawmans conservative arguments. Don't they all? I was him in particular. Maybe. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:35:52 I think. I mean, yeah, of course, I'm really trying not to insult David Pakman. But the last couple of days, he said some really stupid stuff about or he said one tweet in particular that was really, really vicious. Yeah. And I, you know, he's a bit, you know, David, I feel like, you know, you know how to put on a suit. You know how to set up a studio. But like, are you really doing it?
Starting point is 01:36:10 Like, what are you doing? You saw what he tweeted? It's the one that Don responded. Is that the one that Don Jr. responded to? He might have. He said something like, perhaps this happened because there weren't thoughts and prayers or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don responded to it.
Starting point is 01:36:22 And then he responded to Don. Yeah. So, yeah. Don responded to it. And then he responded to Don. Yeah. So I, yeah. I mean, yes. That was one of those ones where you just sit it out. But he deleted the tweet, correct? And then he claimed that it was because he was getting anti-Semitic attacks and death threats. And then he deleted that one too.
Starting point is 01:36:36 Because people were like, no, dude. This ain't it. Like the left was coming at him. They were like, bro, what is wrong with you? Like. Yeah. He made this fake argument. He's like, the right says these shootings are happening because they took prayer out
Starting point is 01:36:47 of schools. I'm like, no, they're not. They've been saying it's mental health issues and gun free zones. Right. So he's making fake arguments up and then arguing against them. Especially with this school in particular. They probably didn't take prayer out of the church Christian school that's run by the church.
Starting point is 01:37:01 His point was nonsense. All right. Perturbed Alpaca says, we are in Spain in the 30s. We will break out into a multi-front, multi-factional civil war, and the new superpowers will send volunteers to test the emerging weaponized drone
Starting point is 01:37:14 and AI technologies. I don't disagree. People should watch. I watched a documentary on the Spanish Civil War, and the similarities are terrifying. People don't understand because they think civil war is like the American Civil War.
Starting point is 01:37:27 But in the American Civil War, Virginia was a sovereign state, functioned within its own government. You know, Tennessee was its own state. New York was its own state. And so it was a bunch of different countries. It was more akin to like a, like a world, like World War I
Starting point is 01:37:42 with all these different countries fighting each other. We called it World War, but it was like mostly Europe. That's what the Civil War was more like. Actual civil wars throughout history have been, you know, people post photos of the United States where it's like, here's the blue areas
Starting point is 01:37:55 and here's the red areas. How could there be a civil war? And I'm like, that map looks like every civil war map outside of the United States. Like, yes, the urban centers become one faction. The rural areas are another faction, and then they fight, and the rural factions
Starting point is 01:38:07 always win. Surprise, the people who know how to survive in the wilderness tend to be able to defeat people who can't grow food. Who live in a building that...
Starting point is 01:38:15 They want it to be, like, perfectly separated, like the people over here don't like each other, and then they're just going to randomly... Like, that would make it so you didn't have a civil war
Starting point is 01:38:22 because they could leave each other alone. Right. Balkanization. All right. John Kirstenirsten says tim not sure if it hit your radar but schools statewide and pa got robocalls saying there was an active shooter causing massive responses something to look into is happening all over the country apparently crazy all right hill billory clinton says it's a perfect example of why we need to stop blaming guns and start blaming people that are mentally ill the mainstream media will never do that though especially when a trans person is to blame yep but the mainstream media doesn't look at transgender as transgenderism
Starting point is 01:38:54 as a mental illness the same way they would regard schizophrenia or uh you know something else as mental illness by the way you notice in any of these stories that I noticed it this morning that that was not – I can't say I saw every story, right, by any means. But it was amazing how that literally didn't even come up, the transgender issue. It was almost like they didn't want most people – I mean we talked about this earlier in terms of how many independents. It was like the NBCs, the ABCs, the CBSs, and the Washington Post, and again, I can't speak for every one of those, but I saw a few of them,
Starting point is 01:39:34 almost didn't want you to know the genderism of the shooter. They just sort of said the shooter. Do you see what Reuters said? No. Former Christian student shoots up school or whatever all right but there was the ap story today where they said uh that this is the the head mistress uh they said in a male dominated industry like it's it was a religious school and they were like, this isn't like an industry.
Starting point is 01:40:05 I mean it was – they go to lengths to just change the narrative because it goes against what they want people to think about something that goes counter to all of the – they don't want anything to go against this whole theory that somehow it could, you know, it's not a bunch of right-wing crazy nutjobs. Yeah, it has to be the fact that she was at a Christian school. That's what made this happen. But that was her second target. Like the first target she went to was locked down by some sort of security.
Starting point is 01:40:36 So she couldn't, what was the first target? I don't even know. Was it not a Christian thing? I think it was a mall. So I believe then that it wasn't targeted. It wasn't like she was going after Christians. The cops said that based on what they learned, it was a targeted attack at the school even though
Starting point is 01:40:48 she went to the mall she yeah maybe she what maybe she had two different targets in mind for two different reasons but this one was definitely targeted at least that's what the police maps and everything yeah but the point is is that i just find it interesting i mean this goes back to what i was saying earlier about the biden stuff right? That they cut out, he makes inappropriate jokes and that's being kind. And they cut out the narrative because they don't want you to see that. And then they don't report on this part of it,
Starting point is 01:41:15 of the shooter, because they don't want you to see that. They want to perpetrate a narrative about who this person is, who the bad guy is, who the good guy is, why the shooter is now a victim, because we've got to make sure that this all falls in line with who the good people are and who the bad people are. All right. Martin Edgar says the biggest problem is if conservatives protest or complain, they're called domestic terrorists by the administration, the media and the left and the DOJ. When the left does the same, they're victims of oppression, which is why the most important thing you can do is have a family, make money.
Starting point is 01:41:49 No joke. Then in 10 or 20 years, you will have well-adjusted, intelligent, capable children who make money and control industry. And then the far left weirdos will be crying about it and begging government to steal it from you. But you will have more power, more access. That's how you win this thing. I mean, look, move out of the cities, get some chickens, get some goats, have a family,
Starting point is 01:42:14 make some money, get in shape, start exercising. All of these things will make you stronger and more powerful. And if that trend continues for 20 years, the woke far left weirdos will be left with nothing because they're not having kids. You're not going to be in their schools. Your kids won't be in their schools. They will eventually cease to exist.
Starting point is 01:42:33 You know, something to protect your mind from is cynicism too. Like if you find yourself thinking, well, they're just going to do it anyway. Like that's the, you lose. They will do it if you do, if you think that. But if you have faith,
Starting point is 01:42:43 that's the antidote to cynicism. So have faith. All right. David Toronto says it's not about not all about age, about Democrats. They are all crazy. Look at our government. They they are Gen Z. They are older.
Starting point is 01:42:57 Sorry, but Dems are loons. Well, yeah, they attract each other. And I think prominent Democrats are smarter and they're more like Pied Pipers who are empowered by zombie hordes. Yeah, and older Democrats move to respond to what younger voters are saying, right? Like at one point, wasn't Hillary Clinton against gay marriage?
Starting point is 01:43:15 I mean, they changed her response. She was in 2016, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Like a leaked email came out or something? Yeah, and Biden was against all that. I mean, again, they... They drifted to catch the upcoming voter class well they just they'll they don't even if they'll go wherever the wherever they have to i mean drifting farther exactly all right son of a murph says make family dinners great again agreed and i gotta tell you man uh you know you may notice ben shapiro is not online friday evenings throughout through
Starting point is 01:43:47 saturday because of shabbat and this is a tremendous advantage for the jewish community in that once a week their family comes together disconnects from all the bs talks to each other reinforcing community you have the strengthening of the family unit and then when they go to church synagogue or whatever it's referred to like when they go to religious that's when their community when the families then come together and have that convergence that is is the stem is the root of the flower for most of us in this country that's been cut off yeah we don't have family dinners and we don't go to church so we're not convening with our own families and then we're not convening with our community families. And then we're not convening with our community. That's something people need to pay attention to, which is why we want to do Saturday morning cartoons at the new cafe, where we have families come in, bring
Starting point is 01:44:31 their kids, the kids can hang out, watch approved educational cartoons. We'll have pancake sausage, maybe not so much. Well, we have to do pancakes, but I'm not I'm not big on the sugar stuff, right? But but some people might be so we'll get we'll make eggs with our chickens, farm fresh chicken city eggs and all that. And then families can hang out, build communal bonds. And I think that is a key to winning the culture war. Then we'll open in 10 years, we'll have 50 locations. And all across the country, people will come and hang out for Saturday morning cartoons. That's how we do it. I wish I had a billion dollars. Yo, if I was uh i don't even know if you need a billion dollars for it if i was making as much as joe rogan was i'd hire a guy and be like start setting up coffee
Starting point is 01:45:11 shops all over the country to do this so maybe honestly five years we'll have the resources yeah this one's profitable then you could probably raise that money immediately that's the thing too like maybe investment is the is the real path forward. We are about, the estimate is two months till operability for the coffee shop. But we got to do the second floor, the third floor, and there's a lot of permits and stuff. It'll probably be a little bit longer. But my family has experience with opening cafes before.
Starting point is 01:45:37 So based on everything we've gone through, it may be two months. Once we have this built, I'm fairly confident that we could easily get a substantial investment to spring up a bunch of these locations in in major in major areas create community you know hang out kind of places so create some cool recipes for breakfast almond flour pancakes with little maple lower sugar content all of the cartoons to be done by freedom tunes i want him to make a specific children's Saturday morning reel.
Starting point is 01:46:06 Well, the idea is Saturday mornings, it'll be like, you know, Daily Wire's got Chip Chilla. So we'll play whatever content they allow us. But I don't want to, you know, if they're cool with us playing their cartoons in these venues, then absolutely. And maybe older cartoons that are just not funny. Tom and Jerry. I mean, Bugs Bunny's a little bit empty, right? Tom and Jerry's a little violent. That's what I was told growing up.
Starting point is 01:46:24 Well, it's not so much I don't care about the violence it's like there's no real message in it we want a positive message if your book becomes a cartoon yeah I'm thinking
Starting point is 01:46:32 hey I'll do it Brave Books get some animation probably get an AI to animate it dude someone asked me the other day if I read is there an audio version
Starting point is 01:46:39 I'm like maybe this is the way to to get into that we could do the audio you have to super start them but we could do we could do motion stills. Okay. Where you basically just show each page slowly moving with a person narrating the characters.
Starting point is 01:46:52 I like where you're going with this. And that's a start. But it's also about the adults, too. Yeah. It's about the parents coming and meeting each other. So we do these community events. Oh, this is what you're talking about, getting to know your neighbors, right? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:47:02 I think that'll save this country and the world. And I'm pretty sure we know enough people who'd be willing to invest in that. We just need to get this one up and running. Then once we're interviewing managers, then that manager will get to manage another location somewhere else, but we'll start popping them up all over the place.
Starting point is 01:47:19 And the best part is, once we have like 5,000 locations, it's gonna be so awesome when they try and pull another lockdown and every single location refuses to close. They're going to go, oh, this massive corporation is not abiding. What do we do? It's like, oh, you can't do anything about it. And then we'll we'll we'll win the culture war. All right, let's read some more. Cain Abel says Ian tolerance is what led us here today. This is why you should not tolerate evil
Starting point is 01:47:44 in any way or shape. Yeah, I know. But tolerance also is what led us here today this is why you should not tolerate evil in any way or shape yeah i know but tolerance also is what led us to where we were 40 years ago or 30 years ago when we were like the greatest cultural revolution on earth like really with hollywood and all this really fint what do you think in like the 80s or no like 1920 30 40 50 60 like our ability to tolerate religions of all kinds cre creeds of all kinds. There was a lot of problems, but it was like one of the better tolerant systems on earth. But I get like that's a problem with liberal democracies is they're easy to infiltrate with bad ideas. I think you just got to, you know, lack of sense.
Starting point is 01:48:18 If you can let the ideas rise to the surface, a lot of is like if you're stomping out good ideas ideas and just only letting the bad ones rise, that's all you're going to see. Do you ever think that while striving to be tolerant, people become too passive and therefore don't say no to things? I guess aggressive tolerance is one way to go. Because I feel like tolerance with boundaries, yeah?
Starting point is 01:48:40 You have to have structural functional boundaries, yeah, of course. Yeah. Yes. Well, all right. Let's read some more Super Chats. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Jeez, Tim, today's episode is quite enraging.
Starting point is 01:48:54 The truth of the situation is that no one will save but us. We must stand up for ourselves. You, me, the folks watching are our only way out of this. But I think it actually is really simple. And, you know, a lot of people are wondering what to do. And it's like, have a family, get out of the cities and make money. Get the chickens. Yeah, man, be more self-sufficient. Allocate your money properly. I can hear Max Keiser screaming, buy Bitcoin. Move to El Salvador. I don't know about moving to El Salvador.
Starting point is 01:49:26 That's what Max wants. Me personally, though, I think crypto is another venue. If everybody listening to this show 12 years ago bought Bitcoin, the culture war would be over. Because you would have millions of Bitcoin millionaires controlling industry and snapping their fingers and just doing whatever they want. You know, a lot of tremendous influence. A lot of Bitcoin like millionaires and billionaires went to Puerto Rico three or four years ago to turn it into like a utopic 21st century. To not pay taxes. Because if you live in Puerto Rico, there's no income tax. And I've heard it's just been trashed.
Starting point is 01:49:58 Like I haven't been there. There was a hurricane, too, that decimated the island that God, how's that not still getting news organization? I didn't know. That's why I didn't realize that was the motivation. Would they still be millionaires? Is that where Bitcoin is now? So if you held it, would you still? If I bought Bitcoin, so first, if I had bought Bitcoin in 2011 when I wanted to,
Starting point is 01:50:20 I'd have sold it when it hit five bucks. I was going to buy it at 70 cents. My friend convinced me not to do it. True story. And shout out to Jeff. five bucks i was going to buy it at 70 cents my friend convinced me not to do it true story and uh shout out to jeff and uh you know he said don't buy it i would at five bucks i would have been like that's a massive increase i'm taking the couple grand because i had no way of knowing it would be at thirty thousand dollars per coin but i would have uh right now i think like 200 million dollars if i had spent the five i was gonna buy i was gonna put five thousand dollars into bitcoin in 2011 back then in order to buy it you had to email
Starting point is 01:50:50 random people and because there were no there were no exchanges it was just some weird thing on the internet right and so and then someone would send it to your address i actually had 20 bitcoin that i lost which is like half a million dollars i think i used to play oh i played poker with this dude. He was like, you get Bitcoins? I'm like, I don't know. What is it? He's like, you got to write it down.
Starting point is 01:51:08 He had a piece of paper. I was like, no, dude, no. It was 2011. I had a computer. I had about 20 Bitcoin on it. It got destroyed. And I didn't care because it was like 15 bucks. Now it's half a million dollars.
Starting point is 01:51:19 Oh, my gosh. You know, but it is what it is. So those coins are gone forever. I think a lot of it is an example of how little faith people have in the U.S. dollar. That's why crypto is doing so well. Yep. So here's the best part. I never spent that $5,000.
Starting point is 01:51:34 It was in my savings. And since then, I've only saved more. So in my investment, retirement, or whatever, that money never got spent. If I had just taken it and put it in Bitcoin, at its peak, Bitcoin hit about 60k, I would have been worth half a billion. Are you much under crypto? I think you guys are the ones the last time I was here. I put a few grand. I mean, I think like that I literally think that's when I invested. The last time I think Luke forced me to get in. Yeah, he'll do that yeah
Starting point is 01:52:05 and but that's why I'm saying like I got in I think you've been influenced by yeah yes yeah but I I I was very late to the game clearly and that's why I'm trying to figure out you know because I know that I have not seen the huge uh that... Yeah, for me, I think of it as a form of insurance in case the accuracy were... Right, it's nice to have... And this is not... By any stretch of the imagination, I'd put enough in there
Starting point is 01:52:33 just so that I could be part of the experience. How's the experience? Not great. That's why I'm trying to figure out... I don't know. Crypto people are always saying hold. That's the thing. Hdle i know that's what it's hold hold hold so it's been a couple years i mean i feel that's true of the stock market too people when you have to hold up that's it's so the hold is like you you you're supposed to periodically or this is what this is
Starting point is 01:53:00 what they say every every week or so often you put money into bitcoin like you you put a small percentage in because it's it's where you save a store of value and then like with any investment you take only a little bit out so you're putting more than you're taking out but it's because the value is increasing okay so this is the theory i'm not telling anybody to do anything i don't give financial advice but i'll say this. I invested in Bitcoin several years ago. And, you know, it's like 20 times up. I'll say Max Keiser and Stacey Herbert, who are in El Salvador, which has adopted Bitcoin as its national currency, are like partying. Like it is like 1999 Prince. Like they are.
Starting point is 01:53:41 It is like they are on top of the world with joy every day. They live in joy. Well, El Salvador's crime rate has collapsed. The standard of living has skyrocketed. 99 Prince, like they are, it is like they are on top of the world with joy every day. They live in joy. Well, El Salvador's crime rate has collapsed. The standard of living has skyrocketed. What the president has done down there with Bitcoin has revolutionized this country for the better. And now people want to live there because I think they're saying now it is the lowest crime in Central America. It used to have some of the highest crime.
Starting point is 01:54:05 And then the media got mad. They started arresting all of these cartel and gang members. I'm like, dude, he is revolutionizing that country for the better. And I'm like, you know, Luke is telling me to get property down there to create like a hub so we can go down periodically. And I'm like, does Luke have property there? Not a bad idea. You know, it's getting expensive, though, because now everybody's because it's getting nice. The words El Salvador
Starting point is 01:54:26 translates to the Savior. Wow. Is that really what that means? Yeah, the Savior. I think we got to set up like a team cast. Or the Saving the Savior. Get like an office down there and set up a studio so we can periodically go down
Starting point is 01:54:42 and do shows. It'd be cool. February down there or something. It'd be cool. Yeah. Yeah, it'd be cool. Spend February down there or something. Starting a global reach over here. Maybe November through March. Yeah. The satellite office.
Starting point is 01:54:52 I think it'd be great. We need to be in the sun. We'll be like, Tim, I've got to move to the satellite office for a couple weeks. I mean, that's fine. A couple weeks. Just a couple weeks. Ian starts just commuting remotely. Let's go surfing.
Starting point is 01:55:03 All right. Pook it. Freddie says, Tim is 100% right. Clip the rant. remotely. Let's go surfing. All right. Pukit Freddy says, Tim is 100% right. Clip the rant. Just read Ordinary Men by Christopher Browning. Right on. All right.
Starting point is 01:55:13 What do we got here? Viking Vet says, there's a famous movie about this, Unlawful Orders. Jack Nicholson, Tom Cruise, a few good men. That's right. Moral and ethical actions against orders
Starting point is 01:55:23 used to be valued and we believed was duty. What happened to that? It became every man for himself. No one, no one. Look, Luke made a video a decade ago where he's like, every day, millions of people get on the subway and none of them ever talk to each other. So I decided to talk to them. It's like this really heartfelt video where he asked people questions, but he's right. If you lived in New York, you totally get it. You don't
Starting point is 01:55:47 know who your next door neighbor is. Everyone is isolated from each other. That's what happened. So when, what they end up doing now, what they end up, uh, what they do, if they want to arrest a gym owner, they know local cops will not do it because the cops have to use that gym or the cops know people who know them. They'll find cops from a city, you know, one town over, bring them in to enforce unjust laws because these cops are like, I never come back here. That's sad reality. All right, let's read some more. Noob Actual says, I cannot stand politicians.
Starting point is 01:56:23 We need more civil servants who hate the position they're in but no it's necessary they are not better or more important than anybody else yeah serve the office not the person i think matt gates is great i was watching him today when you know he's talking about all this stuff yeah and i'm just like i wanted to message him today i i just can't imagine doing a job where everyone tries to destroy you i mean you too man doing a job where they try to destroy you they lie mean, you too, man. Doing a job where they try to destroy you, they lie about you, and you don't make money doing it. You know what I mean? What's the benefit other than someone's got to do this job, man?
Starting point is 01:56:53 And I know we were talking about this before. It starts like there's days when you have to, in my job in particular, and in some of these other ones too, where you can't say, I mean, you're hamstrung. You can't say anything because your job is to serve right and and that's the heart to some degree that's the hardest part where you're being attacked and you're not that that's part of it isn't to defend yourself because you're supposed to be serving somebody else yeah i asked you if you could say what you thought as because someone was like ian you should be the speaker or the for donald trump i'm like ha ha ha well and then i'm like can i say what i think can i be like nah he was and sean was like no no no that's not your job and that's right and that's the hardest part
Starting point is 01:57:33 because there are days where you would see something about yourself and that your job is not to defend yourself you're there to serve and speak for somebody else. So how did you stay motivated then? Because I found great honor to have a position like that, right? To think about it. I grew up in a – we were talking about this before. My dad was a salesman, right? The idea of being 60 feet from the Oval Office of the President of the United States, that's, I mean, unreal. And so to wake up every day and think, I'm going into the White House, I'm serving the President of the United States and the American people, is a pretty awesome responsibility.
Starting point is 01:58:20 And if that's not enough of a motivation, you're in the wrong business. So for me, that's what did it. But it's tough every day when someone's in in a lot of cases i remember there was this one day where it says uh politico tweets out and it says spicer is i think the the phrase they use was like butt tweeting or something right and and the problem was because there was this tweet that came out from at press the problem was they didn't look at the handle of the Twitter. It was fake. It was, yeah. And, of course, at PressSec is the press secretary's Twitter handle,
Starting point is 01:58:50 and it's verified and whatever. But they were in such a hurry to denounce me. And this is why I wrote a book about fake news, a children's book, is because that's what it was like. And finally, once I, you know, called it out to the reporter, instead of apologizing, they wrote, apparently that was, and it wasn't apparently, no, no, you were wrong.
Starting point is 01:59:14 Yeah. But it wasn't like we made a mistake. It was apparently there's another handle. And it was like, like that. As if you're making it up. Like, or yeah, as if they didn't make a mistake. But that's, you had to, you had to eat it every day because you can't make it about you let's grab this one more super chat american woman says our checks and balances are broken cops won't arrest da's won't prosecute judges won't enforce politicians lie and elections are corrupt
Starting point is 01:59:38 when every avenue of regis is cut off what then raz al gh Ghul. I'm sorry, Ra's Al Ghul and the League of Assassins. What about them? Well, they decided the solution was to put a hallucinogen chemical into the water supply of Gotham and then vaporize it so that they would wipe the city out and then rebuild. Via the scarecrow? Yes. Oh, I see. But no, none of that.
Starting point is 02:00:01 We just need people to have families, get some chickens, and make some money. But dear God, you don't want to force people into desperation. You make a good point. If you make a mockery of the system, people might get desperate, and that is not the way to go. So we need to take this system very seriously. And the most important thing anyone can do is smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com. Click the Join Us button because we are going to have
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