Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #748 Trump Jr. Calls In To Discuss Trump Indictment, Trump RAISES $4M w/Alex Bruesewitz

Episode Date: April 1, 2023

Tim, Ian, Phil, Elad, & Kellen join Alex Bruesewitz to discuss Trump's announcement that he will surrender on Tuesday, Trump raising over $4M dollars in a single day, Donald Trump Jr calling into Timc...ast IRL live, and the Douglas Mackey "meme trial." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Man, it's like all the news in the world got dumped today. It's crazy. We got news in the Trump camp. Trump's going to be turning himself in next week. So that's fairly crazy. We got the Tate Bros have been released, which is pretty crazy. I think that's good news considering they haven't been charged with a crime. At least that's the latest.
Starting point is 00:00:20 I don't know if they have been lately, but last I heard they were not even charged with crimes. And then that dude, Mackie, who made a meme, got convicted. So it's just a very crazy day. Plus, you've got these tornadoes hitting in the South, so condolences to everybody. Hope everybody's safe. And what we're going to be
Starting point is 00:00:38 doing today is we're going to have Donald Trump Jr. is going to be calling in to talk about the indictment against his father. So I'm not going to waste any time. Let's jump right into our sponsor for tonight. Ladies and gentlemen, this show is brought to you by CastBrew.com. If you would like coffee whose mascot is a rooster, and you would like a coffee blend called Rise with Roberto Jr., a light roast for breakfast,
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Starting point is 00:02:39 the physical location, the clubs and everything like that. Smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about all of this and more is Alex Brusewitz. Thanks for having me, Tim. It's great to be here with you fine gentlemen on this Friday evening.
Starting point is 00:02:54 But I'm Alex Brusewitz. I'm a political consultant. I work with a lot of the most pro-Trump and MAGA members. And we like to have a lot of fun. We like to piss a lot of people off. And I got to move over real quick. Yeah, there you go. We piss a lot of people off on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:03:10 And hopefully some of my haters and the losers are tuning in tonight because there's a lot to discuss. But it's great to be here on this Friday with you fine gentlemen. Right on. We got a lot hanging out as well. Hey, what's up, everybody? My name is Alad Aliahu. I'm a journalist over at TimCast News.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Tim, thanks for having me on. Absolutely. Phil Labonte. Hello. I am Phil Labonte, labonte lead singer of all that remains anti-communist counter-revolutionary i'm ian crossland what's up dudes also we'll mention twitter open sourced a bunch of code today the first step on a long journey of awesomeness and that's another thing i forgot about that too there's so much news in the code there were identifiers if you were a democrat a republican a vip VIP, or Elon Musk. Elon was like, it's going to be embarrassing, but this is the road. Which one do you think they gave preferential treatment to? I have. Yeah, right. I wonder. Let's find out. The reason they created the qualifiers in the first place was to be like, don't block these
Starting point is 00:03:57 people, block those people. We also have Mr. Kellen. That's right. Elon freed the code on my birthday for me, for me. He did. He told us. Happy birthday. So let's just jump right into this first story. So this is from the Washington Post. Trump plans to turn himself in for arraignment Tuesday, reports the Washington Post. I mean, that's basically it. They say former President Trump plans to fly from Florida to New York on Monday before appearing in a specially secured Manhattan courthouse to be arraigned on still unspecified criminal charges. People briefed on the arraignment said Trump is not going to hole up in Mar-a-Lago. His lawyer, Joe Takapina, said Friday, a day after news of the Manhattan grand jury's
Starting point is 00:04:38 indictment broke. So I guess I guess the question here is, how do they even do this? Like, he's going to have to be released on bail on his own recognizance they're not going to put him in jail what is secret service going to go in jail with him well it's going to be it's never happened in the history of our country in our 250 years as a republic this has never happened before but from my understanding secret service is taking lead on this process so they've been working with the NYPD. And so on Tuesday, he's going to be arraigned.
Starting point is 00:05:07 And I don't know what that's going to look like, but it's terrible this is happening in our country. It's his third world crap. This is a banana republic now. But I got to say, they're going to regret that, putting that guy on a mugshot. Can you imagine the t-shirts that are going to come from that? One of the stories we'll get to later is how how joe biden's going to spend the rest of his days
Starting point is 00:05:29 with hunter behind bars because they set the precedent but you've also got that mackie guy who made a meme in 2016 he just got convicted formally by uh i think it was a jury right and there's a woman who did the same thing he did and she got no charges and what he did was he made a meme that said text instead of going to vote text your vote to this number which was a false thing and so they're like hey you can't and they couldn't find a single victim and then but the girl did the exact same thing hey instead of voting for trump and don't wait in long lines text this number with your vote and it's like totally she didn't post a number though but she did say text text voting is legitimate so i'm saying we're already in it we are absolutely in it 100 and
Starting point is 00:06:05 you know on january 6 all the people that brought a trump flag to the capitol and peacefully protested they're spending years and years behind bars but uh just a couple of days ago transurrectionist storm state capitals across the country and uh they're never going to see a day in jail and not not only that but they attacked cops there's videos of them pushing and fighting with cops and there was a shaman although i think there was a shaman i'll back those guys those guys up on the rights i'm saying guys for men and women and everybody everybody's guys in my opinion that's how i talked but like it didn't seem i wouldn't call violent when the politicians came into the this is in tennessee the one i saw uh the cops grabbed people to move them out of the way there's a little pushing and pulling i didn't't see any blood. I didn't see anyone striking anyone.
Starting point is 00:06:46 So I support your right to protest. I didn't see any police throwing flashbacks into the crowds or tear gassing these innocent protesters. It's not just about that. It's about the protesters were holding up seven fingers as a protest sign, which signifies that the perpetrator of the mass shooting was a victim. That like you are in a cold civil war. And I don't even know if it's fair to call it cold
Starting point is 00:07:09 because the power of the federal government is being wielded to beat people on the right into submission. It is the weight of executive authority crushing down on people. So I don't think it's fair to call it cold. I think we have seen physical confrontations. We have seen death. We saw the far left try to burn down the White House, burn down St. John's Church. And we saw even with January 6th, the fighting on one side, like the conflict is hot. It's happening. It's just not like people are people are so
Starting point is 00:07:40 ignorant to history of the world. They expect there to be a formal declaration by Virginia. We hereby declare we are declaring civil war. And then for New York to be like, we are mobilizing our troops to fight you. And then they march down the street towards each other. What do they think war is? I don't know. I think Jack some Jack Posobiec sum this week up pretty, pretty well. He said this week they indicted their top political opponent, convicted a descendant, and one of their nuts shot up a school full of Christian children.
Starting point is 00:08:07 And that's just one week. And it's so true. That's what's happening. I mean, they threw a guy. They're trying to put a guy who made a meme mocking Hillary Clinton. And believe me, there's a lot of material there to mock her with. But they're throwing this guy in prison. They're trying to throw him in prison for making a freaking meme. And every single person needs to be speaking out in defense of Douglas Mackey.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Every journalist. I saw some journalists that were giddy about this guy being indicted. These are the people that are supposed to protect the First Amendment and care about issues like this. But they're celebrating a guy who mocked a political figure for going and they want him to go to jail. What's the legality if I stood outside of like a voting place and told people it's shut down today guys go home the legality doesn't matter obviously and clearly well what he did was tell them instead
Starting point is 00:08:54 of don't go vote instead just text it doesn't matter tell anyone he posted a meme to like nobody on the internet so what is the legality can i stand outside of a voting station and tell people it's closed today everyone go home if you're a democrat absolutely just make sure you register as a democrat before i mean i'm being serious is it legal or illegal to do that you cannot go to an individual and and lie to them to trick them into not voting okay that's my question and that's what this person you're right he didn't go to an individual and there were no victims okay and there was a woman who was a democrat who did the exact same thing who wasn't charged so i'm i don't want i'm not interested in hearing any arguments about it he's going to jail for election interference, right? You want to talk about election
Starting point is 00:09:26 interference? The left is concerned about election interference that they want to throw a memer in jail, but they're celebrating corrupt and obese Alvin Bragg for trying to throw the top political opponent in jail. That's election interference if we're talking about election interference, not some guy who made a meme that barely anybody saw and so these people are sick uh and they tried them in brooklyn right no conservative is going to get a fair shake in brooklyn no conservative is going to get a fair shake in dc and they're going to convict them it's terrible that's what's happening and they're going to push for jail time because they're saying it's 34 counts they're going to move for that like they are going to try to put him the reason
Starting point is 00:10:04 they're doing at the state level is because he can still run for president he can still win the presidency and if it was a federal crime which the fed said there's no we can't try him for this then he'd be able to pardon himself but it's a state level crime so they lock him up they lock him up alex i wanted to follow up and ask you about this there's been interesting reactions um to this indictment across the political spectrum one from governor ron desantis whose tweet reads the weaponization of legal uh the legal system to advance a political agenda turns the rule of law on its head it is un-american he says the soros-backed manhattan da has consistently bent the law to downgrade felonies and to excuse criminal conduct yet now he is stretching the law to target a political opponent
Starting point is 00:10:42 and then most interestingly at the end of his tweet, he says Florida will not assist in the extradition in an extradition request, given the questionable circumstances at issue with this Soros backed Manhattan prosecutor and his political agenda. Can I get your reaction to this? Yeah. So that second part, we'll start the second part. That's that's not even an issue like that's not even a part of the discussion. And that's just him trying to get some attention out of this, you know, this stuff for his own political game. But the first part of it, his strong statement came after, you know, 48 hours of, you know, attacks. Like, because when it first was reported, he was completely silent. And then when he finally opened his mouth about it that Monday, his consultants had him read this script at a press conference, a planted question.
Starting point is 00:11:27 And he says that it's a sideshow. He said he's not going to be distracted by a circus. He said he's focused on Florida. Then he traveled to whatever state to sell his book. But he only responded because he had so much outside pressure. And he had, you know, it was terrible for him in the polls. He started going down in the polls after failing to respond. Do you think that second part is bait?
Starting point is 00:11:49 Where he says Florida will not assist in an extradition request given the questionable circumstances that issue with the Soros-backed Manhattan prosecutor and his political agenda? Again, I think that is simply just him trying to save face and try to get some publicity for himself out of this movement. There's not even been a conversation about that. And then you had a lot of the DeSantis influencers who don't influence much that were pushing a narrative about how, you know, if Trump really wants to fight the political persecution, he should take a stand and listen to DeSantis and refuse to be extradited. And I think that's just so foolish. The Soros DAs are, it's popular to attack them nowadays. He's mentioned Soros twice in this tweet. Any thoughts on that?
Starting point is 00:12:27 Well, I'm no fan of Soros. And Soros waited on the 2024 election. He said that he believes Ron DeSantis will be the nominee and will cause Trump to go into some narcissistic-induced state. So, you know, Soros is a guy that we have to pay attention to and do something about. I don't think that a foreign-born individual should be able to pay for state prosecutors and have them do the bidding of the political party that he wants. Is he paying companies to get the prosecutor in?
Starting point is 00:12:56 He has PACs. That's how you have nonprofits. Because an individual can't just pay a million dollars to a candidate. So what he does is there are a variety of super PACs and PACs, political action committees. What is it? Political Action Committee? Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:09 He can give as much money as he wants to them and then they campaign on your behalf. The only rule for super PACs is that they don't collude with the candidate. It's like a free speech ruling, which is just crazy because it's a secondary campaign, which of course can do everything
Starting point is 00:13:22 to get you elected and you can funnel as much money as you want into them. They're not supposed to collude, but they do with a wink and a nod. Yeah. But Soros plays every game. He doesn't just focus on the national politics. He's at the state levels.
Starting point is 00:13:34 He's at the local levels. And that's why conservatives and people who care about our country need to be paying attention to every single race. And so there's a race that every American needs to be paying attention about right now. It's the Wisconsin Supreme Court race, where a guy named Justice Dan Kelly is running for the Supreme Court there. Scott Pressler, give him a shout out. He's been doing really great work on the ground in Wisconsin, turning out the vote. But we, you know, we need that Wisconsin Supreme Court case, sorry, Wisconsin Supreme Court seat pretty badly. Because if we don't get it, we're going to fall into another Soros judge. Soros gave a million dollars to help this Democrat get elected to the Supreme Court in Wisconsin. So he's focused at every level of government. And we're seeing the consequences of
Starting point is 00:14:18 that right now, where conservative billionaires are, you know, not so focused on anything except for getting Ron DeSantis enough money to try to beat Trump in the mega movement. You know, it's very concerning that anyone, even an American, can give, just push buttons and send hundreds of millions of dollars to other people to go do political work for them. Like, that's like a hijacking of our politics system.
Starting point is 00:14:43 We're supposed to be for the people. No, no, no, no no no no no no no you can you can use your resources to promote ideas that you want to see spread around anything and any kind of limit on that is a limit on the freedom of speech because you have the right to hire people and engage in commerce and engage in activity in society. This is Citizens United. That's the argument that's made. The argument with the Supreme Court found that Citizens United or in the Citizens United case was that you had the right to have an organization to promote your ideas, that your property, as in your money, you could use your property to promote your ideas.
Starting point is 00:15:26 And that's what Citizens United is. So if you want to start a foundation or something like that, and you want to go ahead and have some kind of organization that promotes ideas, that's the Heritage Foundation. That's Cato. That's the Center for American Progress. That's all kinds of things. And to see- Media Matters.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Yeah, that's, yeah, totally media. God. I mean, and i i absolutely detest like what media matters is trying to promote i absolutely they're communists they're awful i think and i think that if they got their way they would literally destroy the united states i think that's their intent they are illiberal authoritarians but it doesn't mean that we can say well shut them down you can't do that not in a not in a free country i have a personal problem with citizens united i don't like it i don't like that you can say, well, shut them down. You can't do that. Not in a free country. I have a personal problem with Citizens United. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:16:07 I don't like that you can put unlimited amounts of money into politics. And in the beginning of the republic, you couldn't. How do you stop it? What do you mean you couldn't? You always could. No, it was when someone was like taking whistle stop trains. Like, why can't I spend my own money campaigning for myself? Like, well, he's got a point.
Starting point is 00:16:19 And then other people would do the same thing. The newspapers would be like, we endorse this person and we're going to put all of our resources to getting them elected. We're going to put them on the front page. It was it's never been any different. There was a challenge to a citizen united in the Supreme Court was like, it's your dollar. You can speak. And also another thing that I want to point out, like you hear Democrats that have a lot of problem with Citizens United. They're always the ones that complain about it.
Starting point is 00:16:41 And since Citizens United, you've had Barack Obama. Then you had one uh one term of of donald trump and then joe biden so it's not that citizens united means that conservatives or or may and maybe it does mean the corporations because the corporations are in bed with the democrats nowadays but it doesn't mean that it's automatically going to be conservative ideas or that it's going to be uh uh the oligarchy of the the the church being in in charge so far it's been democrats well we were talking about you know matt gates before we launched the show here but matt gates takes zero dollars from special interest groups
Starting point is 00:17:15 or packs he's was the first republican politician to say i don't want your money yeah barack obama spent more money than anyone ever and then hillary clinton did the same thing and donald trump didn't spend more money than everyone and he still won you Clinton did the same thing. And Donald Trump didn't spend more money than everyone. And he still won. So what makes me a big fan of these mega politicians from President Trump to Matt Gaetz is they would rather have small dollar donations from hardworking Americans than go and kiss the asses of the Club for Gross of the world who receive $200 million from five people, and then they have to take marching orders. President Trump, when he ran in 2020, 53% of his dollars came from very small dollar donors. Ron DeSantis, on the flip side right now, 95% of his donations come from 500 people,
Starting point is 00:18:02 and he raised $200 million. 500 people gave this guy $ and let's let's let's address this right here we got this tweet from liz harrington at real is usa president trump raised over four million dollars in 24 hours after indictment in alvin bragg witch hunt over 25 of donations came from first-time donors to the trump campaign and that right there can i just i just want everyone to to figuratively gloat over this as i will now rub it in the face of that politico reporter who said donald trump will not earn a single new voter from this indictment don't overthink it the indictment is bad for trump and i'm just like bro he just he's got new voters right here literally literally right here more
Starting point is 00:18:43 money pouring in this is what they asked for i have to wonder if they're like act if they really do want trump to be in office because the media knows that when he's when he's in office they make money well i think there's a stupid narrative that i want to debunk real quick that was being pushed by a lot of folks who don't want to see trump uh be the republican nominee they say the democrats are indicting trump and trying to throw him in jail because they want him to win. Now, they are trying to throw him in jail because they're absolutely terrified that he is going to win. But, you know, I'm glad you put out those statistics. A fourth of the new donors are first time Trump donors. These like normal people are watching
Starting point is 00:19:18 what's taking place. Normal people are watching Joe Biden throw grandmas who brought Trump flags to the Capitol in jail. They're watching Joe Biden throw a guy who made a meme of Hillary Clinton in jail. And now they're going to watch them throw the president, you know, President Trump, you know, try to throw him behind bars. They're watching this and they think this is disgusting. How could this ever happen to our country and a lot of folks who came over here as immigrants from countries like cuba or a lot of these guatemala they they fled corrupt regimes like this they don't want this to come if they if this happens the united states of america there's nowhere else for anybody to go el salvador that guy's pretty big okay maybe el salvador that guy's pretty big the problem with the savior and it doesn't have a military.
Starting point is 00:20:07 You don't want to go there, but it does mean the Savior. I do want to say it means the Savior, and that's kind of funny. But up until Naib Bukele, I think I'm pronouncing it wrong, up until he got in and started reforming it, especially with Bitcoin, I would have said no other country. Now I'm kind of like, El Salvador's doing pretty well. But for the most part in terms of the wealth the access the opportunity el salvador is doing fantastic so it's like okay i like it but let's be real the united states is like supposed to be the bastion of freedom and if it falters here having to retreat to the next best thing is still a loss it's the loss of of the best absolutely i've got this feeling of this shout out el salvador oh holler el salvador what's happening bukele uh it i i've support the presidency i'm not into like do i support trump do
Starting point is 00:20:51 i support biden like look i will work with anyone that wants to bring liberty to the world and but i think all of us should be supporting the office i got the individuals i got a problem with that that that verbiage bring bring liberty to the world. That sounds a whole lot like George Bush, man. No. That's exporting. You can't export liberty. Yeah, you can.
Starting point is 00:21:11 No, you can build free software that lets people govern themselves and then give it to everyone. Yeah, but what if they don't want it? Then they don't use it. But come on. Also realize, if we blow up all their kids, then their kids will be free from being alive. George W. Bush might have been right. What I literally mean. I'll explain what I literally mean so it doesn't sound so generic. Absolute liberation. we blow up all their kids then their kids will be free from being alive yeah so when i said george dobebush might have been right what i what i literally mean i'll explain what i literally mean so it doesn't sound so liberation but i mean that we could build software that we utilize in
Starting point is 00:21:32 the united states so that people can govern themselves locally liberty liberty is liberty is just like you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink you cannot make people want to be free if people want a theocratic government they're and you give them liberty they're going to give themselves a theocratic government but if people have technology that is muting their ability to see the real world and then you give them what do you mean see the real world like tiktok the algorithm is making them see what the ccp wants them to see so if we can give them technology where they can see reality a little more clearly, maybe they will choose liberty.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Do you? I don't know if that's true. I think when you give people the ability to see the world, you end up with, let's put it this way. I think there was an, I believe in free speech. I believe in transparency, but I do think it could go either way. You give people absolute freedom, and then they might just become gluttonous. There needs to be moral foundations we agree upon where
Starting point is 00:22:30 we have limits. This is why we have borders. I think one of the problems we had as a country is too much of the country became live and let live. And there needs to be two forces of pushing and pulling where one group challenges, one group is holding everything back saying, no, no, no, we shouldn't change it. The other group says, I hereby challenge you. We go to court. We determine, OK, this was good. That was bad. And that's how we progress properly. But what happened is the the conservative chain was broken and the left just zoomed full speed off into I'm going to do whatever I want with no restrictions. And now you end up with child sex changes. We need a strong republic. That's the restriction force is the Congress and the Senate, you know, the House. And honestly, the executive
Starting point is 00:23:09 branch has an opportunity to be a stopgap with the veto power. I don't like seeing things rushed through. So I would encourage I think actually that we are technocracy, whether we want to admit it or not, that we've become a technocratic republic. And if we don't start creating a technocratic republic, like we want to see it, it's going to get created for us in a way that we don't like. Alex, I wanted to follow up with you with something we touched on with that you kind of touched on with this indictment. And it was kind of the political ramifications for it. And what the Democrats like a cynical democratic operative might be trying to pull together here with, with this indictment that it would make it more popular among the base. But what would you say to a cynical Democrat operative who might say that
Starting point is 00:23:47 Trump might be more palatable now in a primary because of this, but in a general, he would be less palatable to suburban white women than maybe a Ron DeSantis would against the Joe Biden? Well, new polling just came out today done by the People's Pundit Barris. I think he's a really smart guy uh that had trump winning with women 52 to 19 against ron desantis you know i took my mom to meet trump wow in august uh at a rally in wisconsin and the first thing my mom says to trump is you know mr president i had a crush on you in the 80s like there's a lot of women my mom's age that remembered donald trump from thes and they loved the guy when everybody loved the guy, when everybody was allowed to love the guy. And President Trump does very well with, you know, with the, you know, the pageants.
Starting point is 00:24:34 He used to own the pageants. And what happened to the pageants? What about the independents, though? So the polls I've been seeing show that Ron DeSantis does better. Well, there's some polls that he does better. There's some polls that he doesn't. A lot of the polls that the DeSantis team likes to tout are paid for polls. A guy named Chris Wilson with WPA Intel, he's notorious for running for polls. Donald Trump would be more palatable in a general election to moderates than Ron DeSantis.
Starting point is 00:24:59 I do. I think that a lot of, I mean, how many folks in here voted for Trump in 2020? Trump. I did not vote. I voted for Trump. You voted for Trump? I didn't vote either. How do you view the indictment of him and the fact that they're trying to throw him in jail? Well, I don't
Starting point is 00:25:16 I don't like the idea I don't like the precedent of taking down past presidents because then the next president is going to take down past presidents, then the one after that is going to take down the one before. Trump just has so much baggage, though, relative to DeSantis is the argument widely, though. Sorry to interrupt, but that's
Starting point is 00:25:32 good. I appreciate that point. And then I want to follow up. Would you rather have Ron DeSantis or Donald Trump? Oh, I need to. This is why we have two years to campaign. I want to talk to both of them and have deep conversations about technology and their visions for the future. get a decision so would you be able to say like right now based on what you know is there one direction you lean towards i know a lot of trump's friends
Starting point is 00:25:52 like i know a lot of people that work with him and for him and but i i don't like when they're like the call him the boss because the boss is the american people and we need to serve the office all of us they do well we've also had a lot of DeSantis friends on. I mean, I don't know. How do you lean or are you neutral on the two of them? I'm very neutral. I mean, does the indictment turn you off from Trump? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:26:13 And I think that's the sentiment that's across the country. Like this. And I real quick, I just think everybody who knows the show and knows Ian, that his input on this is valuable. Ian's got like a weird political stance that's not hyper hyper like it's not the same as all of us who are clearly on a track and have views like phil's very libertarian i'm pretty centrist you know moderate you're very conservative ian's the wild card who often defends democrats in ways we don't agree with so i think your inputs it's very valuable
Starting point is 00:26:40 to be right now like you don't know between the two. I think that says a lot. But also the fact that you're saying that this indictment of him, like doesn't make you reject him. And like, you're, you're not even thinking about that. I think most people are exhausted by the bullshit that the Democrats have put the country through for seven years, which on after which on after which on into president Trump from the moment he came down the escalator the the muller hoax the ukraine hoax the um you know uh the january 6th list goes on and people are just exhausted and they're throwing him in jail over a a personal payment i guess how would you respond to people who say that he has a lot more baggage than desantis does and that would turn off moderates no i eat wait let me go over it would be like january 6th it would there's and then not
Starting point is 00:27:25 also not pardoning january 6th prisoners i'll just look at the camera when i say this you just don't know ron desantis's baggage yet and believe me there's a lot of material there and i kind of feel like he's more likely to compromise and i feel like trump is more likely to enact revenge i mean and i don't mean that i don't mean that in a biblical sense i mean it more like a i'm not listening to you i'm done with you you wasted my wasted my time. You're fired. I feel as DeSantis is going to be like, let's try and work together to make a better. American image where we have like localized government, property rights, free speech, gun control, gun, well, gun rights and things like that. And if we fight and argue as Americans, then it'll be the World Economic Forum that builds it for us. And then we'll be all like still and then we'll be arguing with them and we'll be all trained to argue. So I really want
Starting point is 00:28:19 someone that can unify and not unify out of fear, unify out of love and like a vision for reality, like a growth pattern well in a weird way i think on tuesday our country is going to be more unified than ever before even though we're going to seem so incredibly divided but when there's the photographs of the former president of the united states and the leading opponent to the current president when they're walking him into a jail to try to book him, that's going to bring people together. People don't understand,
Starting point is 00:28:49 he's going into a holding cell. When he goes in, typically when you're arrested, you get placed in holding. It's not like a jail where they lock you in to punish you. It's like we're temporarily placing you here as we process your paperwork.
Starting point is 00:29:02 How are they going to do that? It's terrible, but they're going to do it. But a secret service goes in there with them? Oh, absolutely. And they're going to protect the guy. This is great. And that's going to be on Tuesday? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Holy crap. And then, you know, think about this. The ads that the suburban women are going to see of President Trump being locked in a jail cell while violent criminals are, you know, ravaging through cities, burning down cities, beating up cops punching women and alvin bragg is letting you know he he's letting 60 he's trumping down felonies to 60 of them he's bumping them down to mister eight thousand people yeah he did the first step back so isn't it completely ironic no no no no no no in new york they released eight thousand felons
Starting point is 00:29:42 and also but donald trump had the first step act which was released which ron desantis voted for but that doesn't it would still make it hypocritical no for you to non-violent offenders yeah i disagree trump led it was trump trump's criminal justice reform wasn't like if you're a violent murderer you go free some violent people were let out and then some and then people who pled down come on and he put down a lot of felonies as well i mean i could pull up the first step back good so it was it was meant it was one. It's not retroactive. And then, too, it was mainly targeted towards nonviolent drug offenders. Alice Marie Johnson, for example, was a wonderful, wonderful woman who I've gotten to know who was sentenced to almost to life in prison for having just a little bit of drugs on her in the back of her car. But even then, if the point were this, Trump wanted criminal justice reform, and Bragg wanted criminal justice reform, and then Bragg says, I am reforming criminal justice,
Starting point is 00:30:35 and then Trump says, I'm reforming criminal justice, and then Bragg says, now I'm going to indict Donald Trump on BS charges that are past the statute of limitations, you're like, one of these people is lying. Yeah, well, reforming it doesn't always mean making it better. You can reform it into something very horrible. I mean, how many of you support the idea that, you know, people who get caught with a bag of weed shouldn't go to jail for 10 years? I agree. Yeah, absolutely. I don't think that's what the First Step Act was doing. And I think that would be grossly mischaracterized. That's what the entire purpose of it was to be about for nonviolent drug offenders, who are treated unfairly by a corrupt justice system,
Starting point is 00:31:05 who, you know, led by Joe Biden and the, you know, the crime bill of the 1990s. You know, I'm not sitting here saying we need to let everybody out of jail, but I think there's certain cases where you look at and you're like, man, this person is treated unfairly. Oh, no, we got Don. All right, let's add Don in here. I'm going to just pull him in the room. I'm assuming he's here. Let's get back to that conversation. Smash that like button.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Do you support the first step back? Do you want to let... I did. Okay, guys, Don Jr. is here. What's up, Don? What's happening, guys? What's going on? Welcome to the show.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Can everybody hear you? Yeah. You can hear me? Okay. Yeah. So they indicted your dad. What's happening? What's happening is our country's developed far further than we could have ever possibly imagined.
Starting point is 00:31:51 I mean, this is third world stuff, stuff that the federal government, who actually oversees elections and spent six years trying to throw my father in prison for, decided not to pursue, but a Soros-funded DA, apparently, I guess it's, you know, following his marching orders and doing what he's told and, you know, what they paid for his election to do. So we asked Ian. Ian's kind of a wild card when it comes to politics, because he's not in the same space we are. He often, he says he wants to pardon people like Hillary Clinton, but he says it's not moving him. Like, you're saying it's like it's not turning you off from from Trump. No, it's not. But what's your vision of the future?
Starting point is 00:32:31 Listen, I need I think you need someone to go burn it all down. I guess, you know, Trump, Trump is a lame duck, is actually much better than someone that has to get reelected again and has to play that game. I want someone who will go in there and literally burn it to the ground because it needs to be that. Like I used to, I used to believe guys like, you know, even when I got into this,
Starting point is 00:32:53 I functioned at a high level in business and we did billion dollar deals and you know, real shit. And, uh, you know, I got there. I was like,
Starting point is 00:33:00 well, listen, this is what America is. And I, I, I believe this and I'm a Patriot and I'm like, Oh my God, even, you know, once I went through what I went through with Russia, Russia, Russia, you know, 50 hours of testimony and Adam Schiff up there saying I committed treason somehow. And then I see, you know, of course, nothing happens with that. Of course,
Starting point is 00:33:19 none of that was actually accurate. It was all a perjury trap, hoping that in 50 hours of testimony asking me the same, you know, thousand questions, maybe I say it a little bit differently than the 50th time I'm asked. And therefore I committed perjury. And that's how they get you. But even even I, who sort of had my eyes open during that, were like, well, there's still something to it. Right. We all made the same mistake with with the fbi and what they tried to do to michael flynn it's like well it's the fbi like there must be some truth to it right they're not fully corrupted it's the fbi the cia same thing well so let's you know let's we're seeing them go after parents and this those people are domestic terrorists a concerned parent going to a pta meeting uh but you know some you know trans shooter can
Starting point is 00:34:06 have a manifesto and kill a bunch of christian kids and well that's not domestic terrorists because they're christians like who really gives a shit you know that it's it's really scary where we're at and also so you know let me ask you i want to burn it to the ground so but when you say that like what's the what's the practical step is that uh what was that policy you that you're uh that trump senior he's going to fire schedule f schedule f is are you when you say that is that what you're meaning like we're going to go and we're going to defund the fbi we're going to fire all the bureaucrats yes i mean you got to do as much as you possibly can you got to get other people who are willing to go along with that because i mean i think that's what
Starting point is 00:34:40 you know in 16 we're like hey we're coming in from the outside. You sort of assume that, you know, hey, you may have a little bit differences in policy and whatever. But, you know, people still want the best for America. And that's just not even remotely true. You know, these bureaucrats, they wouldn't they wouldn't succeed in so many other things. And they're going to hold on to what little power they have because they wouldn't get it anywhere else uh you see that uh what's going on you know in our military and you know the the woke nonsense like the decision making process the withdrawal from afghanistan uh everything that's going i'm like well they couldn't have seen it coming i mean i'm like you couldn't have seen it coming you were there for 20 years what do you mean you couldn't have seen it coming like i saw it coming and i don't know anything about afghanistan like uh my nine-year-old son i was picking up from from school that week and he was like hey dad like why would we leave
Starting point is 00:35:30 86 billion in equipment there i don't understand dad why why would we pull out our soldiers before the people that have been helping us for 20 years i like i was like i felt like an idiot because i did i was trying to explain to a nine-year-old that yeah no these people are just they're that they're that far gone it's on purpose yeah the word is surrender that was a surrender in afghanistan to the taliban yes it's and that should be the word i mean they're putting up videos of all the equipment you know they have the second largest fleet of humvees in the world thanks to us for you know you know in minor details 86 billion that's like 275 dollars per you know man woman and child in america like i just that was that's your contribution to the taliban who our secretary of state anthony blinken said uh like on live tv like in a congressional testimony that
Starting point is 00:36:18 he was and i quote shocked and dismayed that the taliban did not install a more diverse and inclusive government like like really like you're you're shocked like you may be dismayed i understand that like but you're shocked after dealing with them for 20 years after watching them throw you know homosexuals off of buildings and put you know journalists in a cage douse them in gas and light them on fire like you're shocked that there wasn't like a trans coalition in the new Taliban government. Like you're not a serious person if you think that. Well, you have no business making decisions for our country. I think these people are they're a cult.
Starting point is 00:36:55 They live in this obnoxious Internet world that's outside of reality. They and they're leading us straight off a cliff. You know, what concerns me, Don, about the metaphor of burn it all down is that when you do rapid transformation of political systems, the solution might not be, like trying to solve one problem might create a bigger problem. Like what we did in Iraq when we dismissed the Ba'ath Party, we created ISIS.
Starting point is 00:37:17 We put all these high-level officials on the street, and then they formed their own paramilitary, basically. And I think that our government, it is is evolving we are becoming a global community regardless if we want to do it or we're just going to put our fingers in our ears and yell until it happens to us so i i think we can i think we can bring people together with like a a vision of industry you know graphene i'm not sure how familiar all right come on but it's like a revolutionizing 21st century technology well let me let me let me redirect this in a way not to be i'm not trying to be disrespectful ian but i'll put it this way
Starting point is 00:37:49 i go off on tangents i don't blame you tim what i what i saw uh don with your dad and the reason i didn't vote for him in 2016 i voted in 2020 for for uh for trump senior because the foreign policy i thought was the best i've seen in my entire life. When when he crossed it crossed the DMZ into North Korea with no security detail, I nearly cried. And I'm like, it was it was a tremendous powerful move where they could have just snatched up the President United States. But it was a tremendous good faith effort to try and de escalate this war has been going on for jet for generations. I saw all of that foreign policy. And I said, Wow, this is amazing getting our troops out of Syria, and they lied to him and to us. And then I saw... Well, they're back in Somalia,
Starting point is 00:38:29 by the way. He took all 500 that we had stationed out there. And now they put 600 right back in because... And Syria. Again, that's, that's, no, well, that was Somalia. But Syria as well, right? I mean, I had Joe Kent on my podcast yesterday, whose wife died in Syria as a result of an ISIS attack. And it's like, I do this. I was like, wait a minute, whose wife died in Syria as a result of an ISIS attack. And it's like, I do this. I was like, wait a minute, we have people in Syria still? He's like, yeah, they're back. Like, I'm like, oh, my God, they did that without us even knowing. And like, I do this, you know, I'm, I'm not necessarily a foreign policy expert, but I'm talking politics day in and day out. And until I had, I guess it was Matt Gaetz on my podcast, like three weeks ago,
Starting point is 00:39:03 because he introduced the bill to try to get us out of that, of course that was voted down because the Uniparty in D.C., they need the endless wars, that's their retirement plan, you get the board to sit on Raytheon and that's how they get out of these things, and so it's truly scary,
Starting point is 00:39:20 the foreign policy thing was everything and that's why I'm like, when I'm watching obviously getting out of the wars and the foreign policy thing was everything. And that's why I'm like, when I'm watching, you know, obviously getting out of the wars and, you know, the North Korea stuff was great and big. But the worst was the reaction from the uni party. Trump's doing it all wrong. Remember at the time he's doing it all wrong. I go, well, what have you guys accomplished in, you know, 40 years of dealing with this problem? Like, have you had even a meeting like with now?
Starting point is 00:39:42 You can't meet with them. I'm like, well, how are you? You've been doing it for 40 years. You've accomplished exactly nothing. You have no track record to show any level of success. And you're telling someone else who actually tried changing up the game that they're doing it all wrong. And turns out they were right. But that's what's what's really scary. You know, while that's a big deal. And that was Obama told my father directly that that you know hey north korea is the biggest threat but you know right now the biggest threat is like you know what's going on in russia and ukraine with an army that we're fighting a proxy war against with plenty of bitterness from a cold war and the mentality that changed and you know an eastern european mentality is let's just say very different uh than certainly the mentality of uh americans these days and you get you piss off someone with 6,000 nuclear warheads because we're fighting a proxy war against them, and they just want to continue.
Starting point is 00:40:30 They're going to see it through to the end. I'm like, for what gains? For what? We're talking about the Uniparty here, and you kind of hit on it a little bit earlier, but one of the critiques that I hear sometimes from some folks is that there are bad hires in the Trump admin. And you talked about that when you first started talking about this a little bit. But,
Starting point is 00:40:51 you know, you were new to politics in 2016. President Trump was new to politics. You guys come from New York and, you know, the business world. And, you know, you probably just assumed, like a lot of us assumed that anybody that had an r in front of their name was on our team and they wanted the same things that we did and uh i think it's safe to say that seven years later you guys know that that's very different so uh do you think you guys know who the friends are now i i said it earlier right it's sort of that you make that assumption that some of these people they're doing it for all the right reasons, and they're patriotic Americans, and they're not. Like, you know, D.C. is a collection of some of the worst we have to offer, as far as I'm concerned, and that's on both sides.
Starting point is 00:41:36 That's a bipartisan deal. But, you know, again, they don't have much going for them. They probably couldn't do a lot in a lot of these places. I've spent plenty of time with a lot of them, and you wouldn't hire them to be, you know, a basic guy in business. And yet they have a level of power and the money that comes with that. And they ain't letting it go. You know, the swamp has a lot of teeth. And you come in as an outsider, you're like, okay, like, of course these guys want what's right for America.
Starting point is 00:42:02 It's like, well, you you know we can buy a little bit of that off this is the crazy thing it's just so different than you think so i think you know now you have an understanding of that you just got it you got to go in with that understanding it's so different uh and again you know we were he was effective meaning my father at so many things whether it's economically foreign policy wise or. And that's with both sides working against him. I mean, how many Republicans, you know, Paul Ryan, like, we're not going to build the wall. I can't fund that. I want to, you know, my wife's an ardent liberal and she, you know, she wants to still be invited to the cool person holiday party.
Starting point is 00:42:38 So we didn't have $3 billion to finish the wall, but we have $130 billion for ukraine to protect uh you know one of the most corrupt countries in the world meaning ukraine ranked worse than russia in many instances uh we have 130 billion dollars to protect their border it's it's lunacy the crazy thing is i'm asking when i was at occupy wall street and even before that with the anti-war movement when you said a moment ago the raytheon retirement package, I'm like that that right there was such a big issue for all of the left 12 years ago. I'm like, where are they now to just be like, hey, we've got a handful of victories with Donald Trump. We should take those over the corrupt uniparty Joe Biden. Instead, it's like their brains melted and
Starting point is 00:43:23 they're just like, I'll vote blue no matter who, even if it means more war and now on the brink of world war three with ukraine it's like the anti-war movement turns to mush they're scared they're very scared and that and that's not a never-ending war i mean that's like a perhaps a world-ending war yeah but you know we could get bogged down in the middle east forever it's you know maybe there's some terrorist attacks i'm not yeah i'm not belittling that or but like know, those guys wouldn't have the ability to literally end the world. Russia has 6000 nuclear warheads. Like, think about that for a second. And you think that a megalomaniac like a Putin, and again, I'm not apologizing for him when I, when I don't want to be in these things. But like, you don't think a guy like that,
Starting point is 00:44:04 who many are saying, well, he's, he's very think that guy's going to allow Ukraine and actor Zelensky to embarrass him on a world stage without escalating? No way. Agreed. Yeah. When you asked earlier, Don, what is it for? Why are we spending over $100 billion to fight a proxy war against? I think it's because the people that are running the liberal economic order want to position it above Russia in the new world order. And they think that stopping Russia from gaining economic prowess with that Black Seaport axis and Sevastopol will will win us the greatness in the new world order. And then we'll decide the rules. But what's happening is it's pushing Russia and China together. Exactly the opposite.
Starting point is 00:44:44 I mean, you know, we were going to shut down their currency and meanwhile it's skyrocketing uh you know we stop our oil production become dependent on iran and venezuela a regime we didn't recognize and the world's leading state sponsor of terror and like we're begging them for oil because we shut it down while russia continues to pump like it's lunacy the way to hurt russia would be for us to produce more of our own oil drive the price of oil down create jobs in america and like they got nothing else like we have more than them but you know well we're not going to do it environmentally sound you think the russians you think they take any environmental precautions they could care less yeah i think it and shana in order to help the united states like less about hurting russia more
Starting point is 00:45:29 about helping the united states is is trade with russia and it would help us so much more than it would help them because of our ability to create here that it would actually be better and it would position us above them and this is what trump was basically talking about he sounds like trump right i know i think diplomacy is the answer the chinese the russians and the united and americans need to work together to protect this planet listen to what donald trump was saying the only works guys if if there's like some force behind it right that's why trump they say saw trump like okay he's not someone to be trifled with it's the nature of predation okay i is a bully. Xi is a bully. They're bullies.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Bullies take advantage of weakness. That's the nature of that game. Just like an animal in the wild takes out the weakest in the herd. When they want Joe Biden on a world stage, they're like, oh, we can eat those guys lunch because it's incompetent. While Putin is meeting with Xi and while Xi is simultaneously meeting with the Saudis to get rid of the petrodollar, which allows the left to have the billions of dollars that they use to fund trans programs in Pakistan, which is just being stolen by, you know, people over there creating an oligarch class. But while that's going on,
Starting point is 00:46:48 the white house is hosting the, you know, the cast of Ted Lasso. Like, no, it sounds funny. It'd be funny if it was a sitcom, but like,
Starting point is 00:46:58 man, I wake up on some days. I'm like, dude, I hope that I'm just like the star of the Truman show. And that everyone is just fucking with me because if they're not it's a disaster hey don i know trump has a long list of accomplishments i wanted to ask you what do you think his biggest accomplishment was and then
Starting point is 00:47:14 on the flip side his biggest shortcoming in his first term oh biggest accomplishment i mean i guess it i just look at the the economy was going so good man you know i guess i i look at that you know i'm sort of a you know i i was a blue collar guy sort of trapped in new york but i spent all my weekends with guys up in northern you know northeast pa and i shot competitively hung out with regular guys and like watching what those guys that continue to come up to me it's like, we had it so good under your dad. Like that meant more to me. I think obviously the North Korea stuff. And I wasn't just baller. I think the Abraham Accords, like that was the holy grail of geopolitical politics.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Right. Yes. Like no one's going to get a peace deal in the Middle East. We've been trying for centuries. It's like, well, we got five. That was like I said, it was the holy grail of geopolitics it can't be done it can't be well no it can't be done by you because you're an imbecile like you're there you're in power because you were a big donor to someone not because you've done anything relative to this you're there because you're you've been there longer and you have seniority it's like fauci does anyone really believe that f Fauci was the best guy in medicine, that he should be making the decision?
Starting point is 00:48:27 No, but he was the best bureaucrat, and I'm sure as shit he was really good at snaking anyone who got in the way of him and a TV camera from the 80s through, because it doesn't seem like he got anything right. He may have got some of the things of COVID right in his emails to his colleagues, but that was exactly the opposite of what he was saying on national TV, because as long as you were going against Trump, you got an extra camera in your face. You got the cover of Vanity Fair or some nonsense rag. And like that was his currency. So what do you think Trump's as to just re-ask what?
Starting point is 00:49:01 Biggest shortcoming of Donald Trump's administration. Yeah, listen, I would say it has to be on that hiring front, because when you come in as a new, from outside of that world, it takes a lot. It's hard to overcome decades of being like, no, if you're going to do this, and you're a public servant, you're doing it for the right reasons. And man, it is so wrong. It's like what you see in politics.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Some of these people that are running, it's like, they have no chance like, but you know what it is, it's a book tour. Absolutely. They're running so they can drum up some numbers for a book tour. Or some guys are running because the consultant class that we won't hire needs to have a job and they got to make their eight or nine figures taking 20% of the ad buy of someone's campaign. And like, they're pushing people, like they're being forced into it because the consultant class is like, Hey, listen, if you guys don't do it, we're going to have to, you know, just get by with a congressional race and we're not going to make $15 million this cycle on the ad buy. Like, yeah, it's a screwed up place, man.
Starting point is 00:49:59 And like people don't fully understand that. I, again, I dealt at a pretty high level and I didn't fully understand it. And I certainly didn't understand how, how deep and depraved it actually is until, you know, I mean, man, every day my eyes are further open. And, you know, this, this week, this week was sort of the culmination of all of that. Right. You saw the, the, the reaction to the, to the shooting in Nashville. And, you know, you have moments in your life, I guess, where it's just like a kick to the groin. You know, the Afghan withdrawal the week after that, to me as an American, was one of those,
Starting point is 00:50:36 you just felt embarrassed. Absolutely. And I had one follow-up on his greatest achievement. The response to Nashville was like that to me, which is like, you know, it's not that it's not the Christian children. They're not the victim. It's the trans community that is literally going through a genocide. I'm like, well, like how? Like, I know you say that, but like where? Like, I don't see that. Like, I'm a pretty big voice in the conservative movement.
Starting point is 00:50:57 And like, I have trans friends that I don't care. I draw the line that you wanting to jack up a three-year-old with hormones without their parents uh any involvement i think that's sociopathy but like i don't know i think i'm pretty you know let's call it progressive on the issue but that's not enough and i had one follow-up on his greatest achievement and that's like everything else going on right now absolutely and i had one follow-up on his greatest achievements because i know trump constantly touts operation warp speed and he ha held the covet 19 vaccine is one of the greatest achievements of mankind do you agree with him on that yeah i i don't you know because of what we know now i think at the time cutting through that again you can't fathom that that a guy like a fauci and the people developing this would do so in an nefarious way, meaning like, listen, I get it.
Starting point is 00:51:45 I'm a capitalist. I understand profit motive. I understand this, that, the other, yada, yada, yada. But like, it's people's lives. You know, I think it took all of that time and all of those years to fully just understand how bad it actually is. You know, again, it's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback and say, oh, I would have done it differently, but
Starting point is 00:52:07 that's not true. All the people that are saying that now you see, you look at their social feeds, they're like, oh, really? Sounds like you were playing the exact same game. It's easy to say you would have done it differently because there's no way to prove otherwise, but your actions at the time, it's not like you called him out. No one was doing that because
Starting point is 00:52:23 the media would destroy you. They'd literally be out there and saying, you're killing Americans. You're doing this. You're literally costing tens of thousands of lives. I want to add to the context of the time. Hindsight is 2020. Back when this was all going on, Trump was being cheered for all of this. Like, this is great.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Good job. We want to see more of it. In the early days, the conservatives were in favor of masks. Then it flips. Fauci was saying, don't wear masks. So like, I think a lot of what happens when we talk about the Trump administration and the past is it's easy to look now based on all the facts we have and say that was a bad decision. But I'll put it this way. The other example, and it's a negative to us, but I'll give it to you would be like people's like well you know the january 6th you know why didn't you do anything i was like you mean in the 10 days between january 6th and when he left office when every tv camera was saying it was an insurrection no one really knew they didn't show the videos that we haven't seen until basically two weeks ago what was really going on like he was supposed to blanket
Starting point is 00:53:23 pardon everyone like i'm like i don't know like we were told that that was really going on like he was supposed to blanket pardon everyone like i'm like i don't know like we were told that that was really there how do you do that it's easy to say it now yeah we've seen the video we saw the nonsense we saw the refusal even a few weeks later but in that 10-day period with literally the entire world being like it was an insurrection maybe you have to say well it was the first unarmed insurrection in literally the history of the world which is probably unusual but like given the response like so i get it i want to i want to ask you wrong but i but i think i can think it's wrong knowing what i know now at the time i'm like holy shit i don't know like you know i thought it was probably overblown but it wasn't so simple right i want to i want to I want to talk about 2024. And I want to just say something real quick on DeSantis. But a year ago, I went on a daily wire stream and said I was probably leaning towards DeSantis as it comes to 2024 because he's done such tremendously good things with with his leadership in Florida. as Donald Trump Sr., has come out with messaging,
Starting point is 00:54:27 has started to focus on policy and the election. It's been a tremendous improvement. The East Palestine thing where he shows up and does the McDonald's thing, that really does hit hard for me when he's like, I know the menu better than you
Starting point is 00:54:36 and he's buying people McDonald's. I love it. I absolutely love it. It gives me good feels. I'm like, I like seeing this. I don't see it from anybody else who's running. I like Vivek Ramaswamy. He didn't go down there. Marianne vivek ramaswamy he didn't go down there marion williams williamson seems very nice she didn't go down
Starting point is 00:54:48 there and so especially now with the indictment i feel like ronda santa saying we will not be involved is a half measure he should absolutely say you will not extradite donald well beyond that like that but that's like that's the second part of it right that was that's the response this week which is a half measure last week was much worse than that which is like well it's a sideshow that's not real and you know it's made up like you mean it's a sideshow that you've weaponized you know the the government against its citizens against its political oppositions yeah oh that's a sideshow you know in stalinist russia uh you know that like if you couldn't no no seriously if you couldn't pick that out and i understand just like the flip-flop on ukraine that he did as well like you know i get
Starting point is 00:55:30 it he he's you know he's been a career politician he's beholden to his donors probably his consultants but like man like if you don't realize that is maybe one of the the fundamental issues of our time if you're a Republican or a conservative. If that's going on, like, you think, you know, right now, I get it. The media is doing whatever they can to boost him because they're afraid of Trump and what Trump will do against the Uniparty. Like, oh, no, that's wonderful. But, hey, Ron, like, one day they may come for you and you don't think it's an issue.
Starting point is 00:55:58 And then it's the half measure after that. So, like, I want a deeper Republican bench, man. I actually believe this stuff. Like, there's no reason for me to be as vocal as i am in this i had a pretty solid existence as a real estate developer uh in new york city i could go to the cool person party and i was welcomed in with open arms and could do whatever i wanted like uh that's different now and i'm okay with that because i want to leave my country to like my children in a in a form that they'd actually recognize. Let me let me ask you about that. Can I can I get out there right now? I want to ask you about that to elaborate on that.
Starting point is 00:56:32 I think it's fair point when when your dad's taxes finally get released. We learned that he loses a bunch of money throughout his first term as president and didn't take a salary. And I think that says a lot. I mean, you guys are a very wealthy, powerful family. I know celebrities who have when when when your dad was running in 2016, with all the negative press, who would be like, well, I know the Trumps, they're actually really nice and good people. They're super generous. But, you know, he's a racist now, I guess, and I'm not going to vote for him. I'm wondering, like, if you want to elaborate on the transformation from, like you mentioned, going to the cool kids club, then deciding to get involved in politics.
Starting point is 00:57:10 And now, like, the media has gone nuts and they treat you like trash. Yeah, listen, like I said, it was interesting. You know, I it's a lot of those people. All of a sudden you're right. I'm like, we're racist. Like, dude, we had dinner last month. Like, what do you like? What?
Starting point is 00:57:29 Like, I have your cell phone number like what are you like we partied together like you know when i was young i'm like so so you think now like and by the way it's not like i ever hid by politics i was i was always a conservative i was a big gun guy i was a competitive shooter you know so i i had my you know had my good you know redneck friends up on you know on the weekends a lot but i could still be a fixture in New York. It wasn't as much my thing. It was much more like my sister Ivanka. She wasn't a woman socialite in New York that didn't want her daughter to turn out like Ivanka Trump. And all of a sudden, she's like, OK, I'm going to go support my father.
Starting point is 00:57:59 And actually, she didn't get involved in a lot of the controversial stuff. But like, you know, what's the bad for like, you know, women who work and it's like, Oh, she's a pariah. I'm like, so it was probably harder for her in many respects than me because I was like, okay, fine. If I don't get invited to the cool person party, I don't care. I'll go hang out with, you know, sort of my good blue collar friends, which always meant more to me anyway. Like that's probably why politics,
Starting point is 00:58:20 the transition sort of as brutal as it was for me was kind of easy. Cause it's like, that's i actually get to be who i actually am much more than than when i was in business i sort of had to five days a week put on the suit and you know be be that guy i could do it i can play the game i get it like it is a game uh but you know there was a friday afternoon i'd escape and i'd be in you know middle of nowhere pennsy, or upstate New York at my cabin. And so it was a little bit easier, and so it didn't bother me as much because I guess I just see it for what it is. But yeah, a lot of those people, and I'm a good enough person that's like, hey, man, even if we're friends, I'm not going to call you out on these things. I'm not going to do all of that.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Literally, I'm publishing a book for my father right now. All the publishing houses were so liberal and so uh jaded it's called letters to trump because we're going through some files i'm like oh my god like here's a letter from alec baldwin kissing your ass like here's a letter from like no no chuck schumer and bill clinton and hillary clinton like it's it's sort of a man i see this file i guess assistant did a really good job just keeping some of this stuff. And I was like, oh my God, because it just shows you how much nonsense is involved.
Starting point is 00:59:33 And I started a publishing company, because all the liberal publishing companies, which is all of them, were canceling a lot of conservative writers or telling them, well, you can't say that, even if it's just mainstream conservative thought, because they wanted to impose their power and if they're writing that upfront check to an author or whatever it may be they were doing this was like i wrote my second book uh and it was during covet and so i was like well i had the time at home i was like we're going
Starting point is 00:59:56 to self-publish this and try to do it because i saw what the publishing houses were doing to me and i had a number one new york times bestseller with my first book and but you start seeing the games being played. I'm like, let's try it. They always say build your own. So I was like, let's build our own. Let me ask you about... No, you finish that.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Finish that thought. No, go ahead. It's all good. But it's just the general point. We had to combat some of this stuff. And I've tried in whichever way we can just to make sure to have an equal front because what people don't understand,
Starting point is 01:00:24 they're like, well, it feels like it's overwhelming i'm like yeah it is because we're up against a trillion dollar big tech enterprise that is just radical left uh you know social media other than maybe truth social uh you know heavily heavily skewed uh to the left just look at the way they censor and you know and or fact check uh you have mainstream media another trillion dollar organization i mean we are up against a juggernaut and like we're still doing pretty good someone someone in the chat asked about you and your dad's stance on the second amendment oh well listen i'm about mean, I shot 200 rounds today. Like, I shot competitively for many years.
Starting point is 01:01:12 I've, you know, a gun collector. I've spoken at every major gun event out there that, you know, my father's more of a golfer. He understands the Second Amendment. And, you know, I'm not just someone who believes in the Second Amendment. I'm actually an enthusiast, unlike so many of the politicians, even the conservative politicians, where you see them. They take their obligatory gun picture and their fingers on the trigger, and they're pointing it at someone's face, and you're like, eh. Dick Cheney. I guess you can believe in the Second Amendment and not know how to actually use a gun, but it probably helps to have some experience. Hey, Don, Phil, I wanted to hear. I want to go back to something that iliad had said he he mentioned um what you what you thought the the um elad elad sorry about that
Starting point is 01:01:55 i apologize for his pronounciation the iliad was a book by home the iliad's a good book i apologize um but the one of the biggest things that my problem with Donald Trump was the swamp, the bureaucracy. Do you think that that's going to be the prime focus that if he gets elected again is to really go in there and tear it out? Because I think that that could really get a lot of them all. Yeah, a lot of the libertarian people out there that don't like, you know, a lot of the big government stuff, the New York style politics and stuff, the libertarians. Well, you got to remember that. And I get that. I get that.
Starting point is 01:02:28 So, I mean, I think you do have to do it because I don't think you have a choice, right? The swamp's not – if you go easy on the swamp, we've seen that. No, they're not going to give you – it was like my lawyers after the stuff for Russia, Russia, Russia. They're like, hey, man, they want to try you for treason. You've got to take that seriously. You can't be on social media talking shit and fighting back like they want to put you in jail for life or you know or worse and i'm like you don't understand like they're not like if i curl up in a ball and suck my thumb in the corner crying for mommy like they're not gonna go any less they're
Starting point is 01:03:00 gonna go harder it's like when when people do their apology tours and it's, oh, my God, that was a mistake. Because, A, you weren't really wrong, but they're going to use your apology as the validation for the fact that you actually did something wrong in the first place. So you're trying to be a decent human being by apologizing and just saying, hey, fine, we'll agree to disagree. And that's just the starting point for them canceling you. And so, you know, I think that New York style politics, like like i think you need it because that's what we're up against and i also think you have again all things are a little bit about perspective right like fine he was right it maybe got rougher but like they got rougher because they're trying to throw his family in jail for nothing we know that like that that's no fact they're trying to throw him they impeached him twice for what growing a great economy and it's all nonsense like you know agreed you have to have that hard approach if you go soft you don't
Starting point is 01:03:50 get points for going soft i'll tell you what they don't they don't give you like okay well it's fine we're gonna we're gonna let trump you know drill for a little bit more oil and gas and boost the american economy because he's being friendly and nice like That's not how it works. They don't care. If they had if they if they had like a moderate Democrat in 2016 and throughout 2020, who was talking about helping the working class, securing our borders like things Bernie Sanders had talked about in 2015, and they did not lie about literally everything related to your dad, I'd have I'd have been like, well, you know, I think I'll still vote Democrat. But they are corrupt. They lied, they manipulated and they didn I'll still vote Democrat. But they were corrupt. They lied.
Starting point is 01:04:25 They manipulated. And they didn't care about our country. And so naturally, for a while, I'm like, I hate everybody. Then I saw the Trump second term agenda. And I said, these are actually things I've been complaining about for a long time. I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't vote for it. And I think it's safe to say that President Trump hears people's concerns. He listens.
Starting point is 01:04:42 And now he knows. I think the first test trial for you guys, the first term, you guys did incredibly great things. President Trump had a record economy. He had energy independence. He was brokering Middle Eastern peace. He was bringing jobs back to America. I just wanted to gut the bureaucracy.
Starting point is 01:04:58 And that's the part that he didn't realize. We knew a swap was there. They knew a swap was there, but they didn't know how deep. And now everybody knows how deep. And everybody knows exactly what roles they are, exactly who needs to go. I don't want to belabor the point, but yeah, it's sort of like I said earlier.
Starting point is 01:05:15 It's like now that you've had that insider perspective, I realize there's not even a... I've been a fly on the wall. I've been in the room and I see the reporting about it. There's not a pretense of objectivity or a you know, trying to get the truth out there. It's, it's just narrative. I think, uh, and I think everyone else has seen that now as well. I mean, I, I sort of did the, you know, I did a tweet earlier that went pretty good and it was like, you know, it's, it's weird. Like, uh, all the people who visited Epstein Island, like no one's
Starting point is 01:05:43 been indicted. No one's there. Maxwell, i guess is doing 25 years uh of hard time for sex trafficking minors to no one like they're going to indict president trump with something that's never even been tried as a felony for a camp a a made-up campaign violence violation because the federal government themselves decided it wasn't real like that merits an indictment uh and they're obligatory per block now i think they also turn them into an absolute legend uh when they do this that's fine i'm okay with that but like just think of the the juxtaposition i i use the you know imagine don jr did one of the 500 degenerate things that Hunter Biden did. Just one. I understand, according to the left, I'm not the upstanding human being that Hunter Biden is.
Starting point is 01:06:34 I'm a terrible guy, but I don't know. Imagine I did one of those things. And again, I'm not even talking about the money stuff. I'm talking about the hookers and the crack and videotaping all of it. Imagine what Hunter decided. It's like, hey, this is a bit too much for video. Imagine what else is out there. And by the way, imagine how many of our enemies probably know what else is out there.
Starting point is 01:06:55 And I wonder if we're being played. No, no, seriously. It seems like everyone has a Hunter Biden laptop. You don't think the Chinese, they give him $1 billion? You think the Chinese give $1 dollars to your average crackhead? No, they don't, unless they're buying you. I wanted to say with that. You think the Ukraine does the same thing?
Starting point is 01:07:13 No. I wanted to say. But we're spending $130 billion in a country that we don't know, and no one's even bothering to ask. Do you think our decision-making process is jaded by what they may have on the Bidens? I know if it was Don Jr., they'd be asking the question. I'd be in jail. I wanted to say on the point about firing all the bureaucrats.
Starting point is 01:07:32 I actually I believe that if if Donald Trump is reelected, if he gets a second term in the 2024 election and wins, a large portion of these people will quit, resign and they will run for the hills. That would be so good. By the way, that would be the greatest thing in the world to happen, and that's the reality. If you had eight years, you have some of that natural attrition. It's a long time. Well, after 25% more of most people's careers, you got to do that. But, yes, I think if they realize that someone is just going on there
Starting point is 01:08:01 and they don't care and they don't have to get reelected and they don't have to make friends, and, frankly, they've been treated so poorly that they don't care and they don't have to get reelected and they don't have to make friends and frankly they've been treated so poorly that they don't they don't care about any of that like i i think literally like that's uh that's what i'd be voting for i don't care who if it was going on for someone else and they were doing the same thing to someone else you know sometime down the line i'm like i'm voting for that guy just because i want to see that place just you know taken down to the bones. I do think that if he wins again, and I do believe he will, a lot of these people will quit out of protest and the swamp will start draining itself.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Fear. They'll quit out of fear and call it a protest. Absolutely. But, you know, after the 2020 election, there was a moment in time where a guy named Jeffrey Clark was almost appointed to be the attorney general. And you've had him on your show before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And hundreds of people at the Department of Justice said, if Jeffrey Clark becomes the AG, we'll quit.
Starting point is 01:08:54 And now we just found out exactly what we need to do to get— I don't know anything about his politics, but I'd be like, hey, he's now number one or two on my list. Yeah, they said they'll all quit. So the swamp would drain itself at the DOJ. All you have to do is appoint Jeff Clark as AG. So we have a solution to that one. But, you know, all of these different bureaucrats
Starting point is 01:09:13 and all these different agencies, I think we got to move a lot of these people out of Washington, D.C., put them in real America, and they'll quit and protest out of that as well. But we're really looking forward to a second Trump term because you guys know where the bodies are buried. You know who needs to go.
Starting point is 01:09:30 And I don't think that you're going to hold any punches because I think he has been treated incredibly unfairly. You know what? The metaphor I want, I want is with, it's like Donald Trump, your dad, Don Sr. is like on his knees and they're like, they're and they're beating him, metaphorically, in the movie. And his face is all bloody, and he's down. He looks up at the guy and looks him in the eyes, and he says, you're pardoned. I didn't say the word pardoned right.
Starting point is 01:09:53 But you know how it used to be famous for you're fired? You're pardoned. He's pardoning his enemies because that's the Christ-like thing to do. I think it might not be the battle strategy tactic, but I think that that will just resonate. You're on the other side of this one. I want him to go in with a bunch of eyes. I want him to go with federal law enforcement and be like, you're all under arrest. Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:14 I don't want another. Yes, Tim. Or that way. But again, it's different. Right. My perspective has changed because of what I saw they tried to do to me. Like literally, you know, I had, you tried to do to me like literally you know i had you know adam schiff and you know some of those guys like on tv every i committed treason
Starting point is 01:10:30 like i'm a patriotic american man i take that shit seriously you know beyond the fact that it's you know a crime punishable by death like you're just saying like i'm i'm not america adam schiff's an american like give me a break like i you know so yeah i'm coming at it from a much more pissed-off perspective. But, again, you look at just what's going on. You look at the decisions. You look at the prioritization. You look at the soundbite. Everything that's coming.
Starting point is 01:10:57 It is a clown show. Do you think that we could, like— It's a clown show. Somehow. You listen to the press secretary, and it's like— Oh, God. I got all sorts of hell. Look at John Fetterman, the Pennsylvania senator.
Starting point is 01:11:10 They've called me, I'm every name in the, I'm an ableist. Apparently I discriminate against people with disabilities because I've been calling him out for not being able to complete a thought or a sentence. And I'm like, I don't think it's an unreasonable expectation guys. For me, for an American to assume that his or a sentence and then he's and i'm like i don't think it's an unreasonable expectation guys not
Starting point is 01:11:25 for a senator no for an american to assume that his senator a person making trillion dollar decisions perhaps life and death decisions sending our kids to war especially when the biden administration is saying we're the closest we've been since the 1960s in the cuban missile crisis like i don't think it's an unreasonable thing for me to expect a united states senator to have basic cognitive function and if you look at that guy that's like the minimum standard he's been in a hospital for a month he's been more time in a hospital but they knew that when they ran him in a primary but he was the most radical so they let him get through it they're saying oh you're a terrible person for doing this he's stressed stressed out already. I go, no, no, no. He was stressed out before and you ran him for Senate. Okay. Like I'm not the bad guy here, folks. You can say what
Starting point is 01:12:11 you want. I'm not going to apologize. I'm not going to withdraw my commentary. I think it'd be wonderful if he was a bad guy at Walmart. That's one great gainful employment is important. Everyone should have it. John Fetterman has no business being a United States Senator. It doesn't take a brilliant person to figure this out, but, oh man, they went after me. I'm the most discriminatory person in the world for expecting the guy to be able to, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:35 speak. I want to ask you about this. We have this story from the Post Millennial. New York City jury found Douglas Mackey guilty in first ever meme trial after making memes that disparaged hillary clinton the 2016 election i have the tweet it was this uh that'd be my first part of man that guy that was ricky vaughn right well but he's one of the great like the original like sort of twitter accounts like manga accounts i mean
Starting point is 01:12:59 think about we live in a country right now this the is the United States of America, where they want to put a guy for a fucking meme in jail for 10 years. Not one, they're gonna. Yeah, well, yeah, you're right. They've already lost the trial, theoretically. Like, that would be my first pardon. But it's state level, you can't pardon them. Like, think of the things that, well, you're right, I guess. But think of the things that the degenerate left puts out there and not a consequence.
Starting point is 01:13:30 No one ever goes after. They don't even get fact check. I mean, I look at some of the stuff they say about me. I'm like, well, these are demonstrably false and they're like, wow, we can't we can't look at that. I go, but you fact check me when I say this is my opinion. And you you come up with some sort of arbitrary way to say, well, that's fact. I'm like, I'm not allowed to have an opinion. Well, so we also have this tweet from Christina Wong, where on November 8th, 2016, she did almost the exact same thing tweeting out for Trump supporters to text in their vote.
Starting point is 01:13:59 She didn't include a number, but she even included Super Wednesday, a fake day for voting. And she's not been charged so i see this story as a perfect example of partisanship that's how it works there's not a there's no equal justice under our law anymore we have a two-tiered system okay whether it's christina long versus the ricky vaughn whether it's hunter biden versus me you know it can't be more apparent and, it's not like it's just anomalies. They only go one way politically, only one way politically. There's not even I can't even come up with examples of the left on this. And again, whether that's censorship, whether that's
Starting point is 01:14:37 actual prosecution, the list goes on and on. It's it's so stacked. Did you we have to understand that and we have to all be engaged in it because otherwise it's over did you know that the marshals outside of the uh supreme court justices homes were ordered not to arrest the protesters unless absolutely necessary despite the fact the protests are actually illegal yeah and and if we did that to ruth bader ginsburg before she passed they'd all been in there with the January 6th prisoners. How many people were arrested, Tim,
Starting point is 01:15:10 in the Summer of Love? You know, in the 2020, billions and billions of dollars of damaged people murdered, David Dorn and others, buildings burnt to the ground, arson. You can loot a Gucci store and steal a purse because it's in the name of social justice. You can loot a Gucci store and steal a purse because
Starting point is 01:15:25 it's in the name of social justice. You ready for this one? How many were arrested? This is important. There were 19 plus deaths and 14,000 arrests. Now, it may sound like, well, these people are being held accountable, right?
Starting point is 01:15:42 How many were let go right away? Not only were most of them probably let go, but don't you think 14,000 plus arrests over a period of two weeks should be the major story of the past few years? Like, 14,000 people were arrested! They were mostly peaceful. Oh, right, right.
Starting point is 01:15:59 $2 billion in damage. I was watching a reporter say that live because I was like, man, this is crazy. I don't mind. He goes, it's mostly peaceful. I go, dude, there's a building burning in the background. And like three seconds later, the reporter got hit in the head with like a brick. I'm like, you know how many lengths they went to?
Starting point is 01:16:16 Like, don't believe your lying eyes. You can see it. It's happening in real time. Yeah, but to your point. What they tried to do to Kyle Rittenhouse. Oh, God. Lunacy. see it it's happening in real time yeah but to your point trying to do to kyle rittenhouse like oh god lunacy well to your point about the folks you know getting arrested and being let go right away i mean there's a great deal of people that fall into that bucket but the just the total prosecution number of those people are like 50 60 percent january 6th defendants in washington dc
Starting point is 01:16:42 there's a 99 percent conviction rate. Ninety nine percent. Because because you can't there's you can't find an impartial jury in Washington, D.C. They know that it's what they're doing with Trump in New York. You're not going to find people in a jury that are going to convict Trump. You don't have people that believe, you know, that he's got a right to a fair trial. they're fine saying, ah, you know, they're really for democracy when they can make up some sort of soundbite against it. But if they can use it to weaponize against someone else who doesn't share their exact
Starting point is 01:17:13 opinion, we've seen this. This is how the left has functioned as they've sort of devolved into, you know, full-blown, you know, Stalinist, you know, type mentalities. You know, look at what they've done to like martina navratilova right uh oh yeah incredible tennis player one of the leaders of the you know the gay and lesbian movement she was preaching for that movement and fighting for that movement 30 years before it became all the rage way before it was cool but then when she came out a couple years ago and was like well i don't think men should be like competing against women in sports like i was one of the elite women athletes of all
Starting point is 01:17:47 time and like the men would have destroyed me they canceled her 30 years of activism just for having a different opinion it meant nothing to them insane because they only accept total and complete surrender we again we've i hit it earlier in the talk but like uh you know we saw that this weekend you know it we really should be you know praying for the trans community because they're at risk i'm like what so we like we're getting on genocide i'm like but where like i haven't i haven't heard anything what are you talking about like i'm committing genocide by saying i don't believe a three-year-old should be given puberty blockers enforced into something by a teacher without parents being involved.
Starting point is 01:18:32 I think they should have liability to the doctors. When that kid turns of legal age, the recidivism rate is like 94%. If that kid turns of age and is not happy anymore they should be able to sue the teacher i got the doctor their parents anyone else who is involved in this decision making process because that kid couldn't buy a pack of cigarettes for 15 years but we're we're gonna give them life altering body altering meds and drugs and hormones and that like to be against that makes makes me you know a committer of genocide i want to it's stupid i want to ask you two more questions one one uh one of them will be a bit simpler but the first one is we're getting a lot of people asking about
Starting point is 01:19:17 your views on julian assange and whether or not he should be pardoned yeah you know that's it's a really interesting question uh assange uh listen i i years ago when it first started happening i would have said no now i'm like oh my god like he's he was on this stuff you know again years ago i was like all right you know him um the other guy who gave up the military secrets with Edward Snowden. Snowden. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I would have been like, I would have taken the no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:19:50 That's a hundred percent. A hundred percent. You got to let those guys out because they actually caught us doing all the things we said we weren't going to do. They caught us in the lie. And like, it's out there. Like, and now I've seen what what's actually going on again. My worldview, the America I believed or wanted to believe
Starting point is 01:20:12 existed like that doesn't exist anymore, guys. And every day that's further and further gone. We just are being more and more awakened to the reality of the situation. It's not that it's getting worse. It's probably been really bad for a long period of time. We just now know it and we're seeing it with our own eyes. I don't think so. Yeah. I don't think that was it. That's an easy question to answer,
Starting point is 01:20:32 but there were a lot of people in chat saying like, I think my mind has, my mind has changed on that a lot. When, even when we first got into politics, I'd be like, no, that's a bad thing.
Starting point is 01:20:41 We can't have that. But I'm like now, everybody's cheering now that they're like, yeah, we got, I got one more question though, because I bad thing. We can't have that. But I'm like, now? Everybody's cheering now, though. They're like, yeah! I got one more question, though, because we're going to jump over to the Sandra Tate story, but while we have you, the next question that everyone seems to be asking is, how and when can we get your dad on the show?
Starting point is 01:20:57 And you! I mean, have you actually come in the studio, to be honest? Yeah, I know. We talked. I got to get up there. Honestly, if I can do anything to avoid going into D.C., I usually will. But I'll make it up there and come there. I'll talk to him about that. And by the way, Andrew Tate, another example, right?
Starting point is 01:21:13 And he's someone I've hung out with. I've gone back and forth. He's been in jail. I don't even know. They haven't even told us what he's done. He's not charged with anything. They just put him on house arrest. He's not charged with anything. They just put him on house arrest. He's not charged with anything.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Yeah, they just moved him. He's got witnesses on his behalf. It's crazy. It's nuts. I mean, it's an example of what this country could become if we let go of our Constitution. Well, but it sort of has, right? Like, he was, when I spoke to him, you know, last, I was like, hey, man, come on. You know, if you come to the States, I'm not going to the States.
Starting point is 01:21:43 They'll put me in jail. I'm like, the States will? You know, I don i'm like states will you know i don't think like legitimately i don't think that oh sorry to interrupt you there oh no no worries um i don't think that it's that it's bad that it's really i mean it is obviously it's not that it's getting worse it's that we're seeing how bad it is and we have an opportunity to make it better really like it's been bad for a long time we're just like every day we're like oh here's another example of how bad it is uh you know a guy like that he we're like oh here's another example of how bad it is uh you know a guy like that he's held without whatever i don't know like if you're
Starting point is 01:22:09 doing what he's doing it's and it's hard right it's hard for me like the flint example i used earlier like well like well if he's trafficking women like well maybe i gotta stay silent maybe i gotta you know you can't you can't come out against that it's you know i'm a very strong believer that that's terrible shit and but that's what they do but then you know nothing happens they can put you away for six months like well why are they going after him to begin with oh because he's actually influencing a lot of young males uh talking about you know masculinity being okay and not not necessarily the four-letter word that it's made out to be oh god forbid you have you know high t you know you're not a stoy uh kid walking around with it like
Starting point is 01:22:46 i don't know like it seems odd it seems that anyone that speaks out against that system even a little bit uh or or would encourage a large group of people to not just buy into it you know they're just singled out and and isolated and and effectively taken out again if he did something that's terrible i don't i don't condone but man, it seems like you couldn't put someone in jail for a few months, not show anything and expect us to believe it's actually real, right? Like we should be cynical
Starting point is 01:23:12 based on virtually everything we've seen in the world for the last six years. And, you know, maybe that's the greatest thing. The greatest legacy of Trump would be that he actually, the Trump derangement syndrome that ensued showed us all of these things that we probably would not have seen otherwise.
Starting point is 01:23:32 We're going to jump over to covering that story, but I got to say, dude, seriously, thank you so much for coming on as long as you did. I thought we were going to get you for a couple of minutes. We had you on for like, it's been almost like an hour. So, bro, thanks for hanging out. Sorry to cut in on Alex, but you know. No, you know you're still my thunder man i'm trying to get famous over here yeah so hey guys the reality like i said it'd be easy to shut up and be a real estate guy
Starting point is 01:23:54 in new york you know we got plenty of good assets like it like i actually i believe this stuff like it it means something to me i like i you know i i don't do it lightly it's not a it's not an actor shtick like we got to do something about it and uh you know i i've't do it lightly. It's not a, it's not an actor schtick. Like we got to do something about it. And, uh, you know, I've, I've had, I guess the blessing of having my eyes open to what's really going on. And I got to make sure that other people see that. Right on, man.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Well, thanks for joining us for as long as you did. And, uh, we'll connect. We'll figure out a time we can get you out here. And I appreciate it. Thanks for coming on. Thanks guys. Have a good one. See you, man.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Thanks, Tom. Be good. I, I'm, I'm totally down to just like sit back and have him take over but we're like eight minutes from super chats and i do want to make sure we we show the andrew tate stuff because this is big i know what he's saying about having feeling forced to serve like it's so easy just to sit back and make money in this doing this job what we do just talk about it from a distance but at some point you got to serve your country well i don't want to waste too much time on this. But I just want to say just, you know, I got I've got to know Don very well over the last, you know, couple of years here. And I think he's such an awesome guy who has gone through hell 50 hours of testimony,
Starting point is 01:24:56 Adam Schiff wanted to imprison this guy. And, you know, I thought after the election, he could, you know, he would have just kind of packed it up and wanted to relax a little bit. But he got straight to work. And one of the big projects that he's been working on is building up the parallel economy, fighting back against woke America. He's involved with a company called Public Square that I know that you guys know, but Don is helping spearhead that company, trying to take that company public in quarter three, identifying hundreds of thousands of businesses that share our values. That's how we fight back. He has his book publishing company because all his companies are canceling folks.
Starting point is 01:25:29 He's involved with a new hiring board called Red Balloon. Don is building up the parallel economy as we speak right now. It's incredible work. Let's jump to the story about Andrew Tate, because we've got this breaking footage. Benny Johnson posted it, breaking news, Andrew Tate and Tristan are freed from prison. And so here we can see they're just they're coming out unshaven. And then we have this other video that people were mentioning. Andrew Tate tweets since last year, I've been in 24 hour lockdown, no yard time, pacing a three meter cell with zero electronics or outside contact, absolute clarity of mind, real thoughts, real plans, vivid pain pain one hour home and i can't stand my phone some habits die hard we must defeat shaytan and then people are pointing out that he was he was
Starting point is 01:26:11 not sitting around doing nothing he was he was working out when he was eating he was not saying nice he is a member of the clean plate club that man has been eating a lot of food and doing a lot of push-ups i would love to talk to Andrew. If you're out there, Andrew. So he's on house arrest now. He and Tristan have been moved from the jail cell to house arrest. Yeah. So I think we got to hear from the Daily Mail.
Starting point is 01:26:34 They say, freed Andrew Tate claimed he is now absolute clarity of thought, an ecstatic taint, etc., etc. They walked into the Bucharest jail together. Let's see. Where is the – they like putting all this puff stuff in here i left a romanian jail can you give me the news on what what this is all about it's hard to pull it up when it's like the last minute but uh well there you go the bail application was rejected on wednesday all four appealed the decision today the court of appeal in bucharest ruled that the brothers and two alleged accomplices would be released from prison and placed under house arrest
Starting point is 01:27:04 a spokesman for the tate brothers exclusively told Mail Online, we're ecstatic to announce the Romanian judicial system approved Andrew and Tristan Tate's appeal against last week's extension decision. They will be placed under house arrest while the investigation continues. So my understanding is still they've never been charged with any crimes and they have women who have come out and testified in their defense and a judge ruled, no, you're brainwashed. So to see him be released, it's crazy. I said, good. I tweeted. And these lefties are like, oh, but haven't you seen the things he said? I'm like, dude, he could have said the worst thing in the world. He could have said the worst things in the world. He could have gone on the
Starting point is 01:27:40 most vile rants. And what would I have to say about that well i really don't like those guys opinions however he wasn't charged with any crime so why are they locking him up i get it it's romania okay so it's not the united states but my moral standard regardless of the law is don't lock people in boxes that you have no evidence of wrongdoing and aren't even accusing of wrongdoing 100 you know i wasn't even a follower of andrew tase i didn't know much about him until all this happened and the day he got arrested, I was hanging out with my friend, Eddie. And, you know, Eddie's just your typical 20-some-year-old dude. He's like, I love Andrew Tate. This guy speaks the truth.
Starting point is 01:28:14 The guy did nothing wrong. I'm like, dude, how do you know for a fact? He's like, he did nothing wrong. And so I started looking into the case because of Eddie. And then he had the alleged victims, his abuse victims that said, I wasn't abused at all. Like Andrew did nothing wrong and Tristan did nothing wrong. And it's just another example of persecution of anybody that questions the regime. And did somebody in the United States State Department make a phone call to Romania and encourage them to take care of the Andrew
Starting point is 01:28:44 Tate problem because he's becoming too influential in America. You never know. And we don't have too much faith in the actors at the State Department or in our government to make. When two women come out and say, we're accused of being victims, but we will testify under oath, this is not true. And a judge says, don't care. I'm like, some fishy is going on. At least get a psych eval on the girls. No, no, no like if you don't believe them i can respect that but we don't psych eval witnesses exculpatory witnesses not in
Starting point is 01:29:11 the u.s we don't and i think that that should apply everywhere i know romania is different i know it's their own law but my standard is not based on legality it's a moral standard of yo come on what no you're brainwashed you don't count like two women with adult human brains have told you they're not victims that's it well on january 6 president trump said peacefully and patriotically protest and then you know people disregarded what he said in his actual speech and then they said he incited violence by saying those words so like the the regime doesn't really care they make shit up and they try to throw anybody that they deem a threat in jail you know i watched a tucker carlson tonight uh interview with tucker and andrew tate and you know everybody said andrew tate's the misogynist he's crazy he's
Starting point is 01:29:56 this he's that and i listened and he's very articulate he's well spoken and he has convictions and um you know they're just throwing him in jail because his message is resonating with others and it sounds like another guy i know they it's it's kind of poetic that the day they let out one guy that questions the regime and and the regime hates they try to arrest another so and they they also let jacob chancely out yesterday or the day before he's the the q shaman from january 6th there was evidence came out that tucker carlson showed the video up two weeks ago or so but but now he's out but his release was scheduled oh and so as long as i know no this was his normal time to be nine months earlier so like to like a halfway
Starting point is 01:30:34 house or something like that and then what was it he tweeted or something he tweeted yesterday i always saw i saw it in my feed it had 16 000 likes or something and then my feed like auto refreshed which is a big problem on Twitter. You guys got to fix that. And it disappeared in his channel. I can't find his channel. Real quick, someone super chatted. Matt says to go to New York City.
Starting point is 01:30:52 Elad, are you going to go up to New York? On Tuesday when Trump's supposed to be indicted? Yeah, I'll be there. Yeah, let's get it. Let's figure it out. Anyway, let's go back to what we're talking about. I was just excited by that. I'm like, oh, man, we definitely got to have you up there.
Starting point is 01:31:03 I don't know. While we're talking about January 6th characters, I think one of the greatest characters ever was the lectern guy. Oh yeah, he was on the show. And I just realized he follows me on Twitter. They call him podium guy, but it was a lectern. Yeah, it's a lectern.
Starting point is 01:31:16 So at lectern leader on Twitter, that guy's a goat. For real, it's lectern leader. At lectern leader. And there was a situation where Ron DeSantis was at a campaign event and somebody took his podium and he's crying where's my podium go where did my podium go and there was a meme of lectern leader taking away the podium i'm like this guy's awesome so um lectern leader he served his time in jail i don't think he should have ever gone um but you know lectern leader and the Q shaman, let my people go, Joe Biden.
Starting point is 01:31:47 For sure, man, a mass pardon. And I'm talking about across the aisle. No. And setting down tensions. Nope. That's where you lose me,
Starting point is 01:31:54 buddy. Squeezing tighter. I don't think that's how we win. Dude, you don't win by getting kicked in the face repeatedly until you're on the ground and go, thanks buddy. I forgive you.
Starting point is 01:32:03 Well, that's how you win friends. Well, I'll say there are people. I would be friends with somebody it so on january 6 i'm 23 years old i don't know too much about anything i'm in washington dc for the protest i'm a trump supporter i have questions about the election two years go by almost a year and a half goes by don't hear from anybody all of a sudden i get an get an email from, you know, I'm like, I feel bad. I have a pit in my stomach. I feel bad for what's going on to a lot of these January 6th protesters.
Starting point is 01:32:31 I decide to make an announcement. I'm going to donate $50,000 to help J6 political prisoners. Two days after I make this pledge and it goes public, I get an email from a guy named Sean Tonoli from the January 6th committee. Alex, we believe you have information related to January 6th and we would like to speak with you. I go on Tucker Carlson the next couple of days. I tell him to F off in a nice way. They subpoena me. I have no knowledge about January 6th. Zero whatsoever. They subpoena me. They force me to spend tens of thousands of dollars. They drag me before the congressional committee. Adam Kinzinger is the only member that shows up.
Starting point is 01:33:09 I'm wearing a subpoenaed hat because I'm like, but they forced me, a guy who's trying to have a future, have a family one day. They forced me to spend tens of thousands of dollars to defend myself over bullshit. So when we get back power, I don't really want to have peace with these people who did this to us and are continuing to do this to us. I think that we have to turn the tables on them, give them a dose of their own medicine, and then we can even the playing field
Starting point is 01:33:37 and then we can discuss unity. They've got, look, people who broke the law go to jail. And the issue is they're saying, oh, Donald Trump and this indictment, blah, blah, blah, misdemeanor charge does not feel real. They have falsely accused Trump of being a Russian spy. One dude went on MSNBC and said he worked for the Soviet Union. Trump may have been an asset of the Russians since the 80s, which was the Soviet Union. And it's just like, you're insane.
Starting point is 01:34:00 This is not real. You have lost your minds. So when they're doing this, I'm just like, I don't care. I don't believe it. They get no benefit of the doubt from me. But what they're doing is unprecedented. Now, what we need is, I'll put it simply, I will be satisfied right now if Trump goes in and Schedule F fires everybody. Schedule F, right? Yep. Just fire them all.
Starting point is 01:34:18 Fire, fire, fire, fire. Because I don't care. I don't care if they're criminals. I don't care if they're not. We need term limits for bureaucrats. We can't have permanent government actors because then you end up with a permanent government well what if he creates a law that creates term limits for bureaucrats what if congress creates a law yeah what if he encourages what if he works with congress to create a law
Starting point is 01:34:37 rather than firing people no he creates a law that makes them their careers terminate and then clean out the existing bureaucracy. Then if there's, if Congress wants to pass legislation talking about term limits or something, I would endorse
Starting point is 01:34:52 that kind of stuff. But get rid of the bad apples that are in there now. And if you get rid of some good apples, getting rid of bad apples, it's fine. You're not putting people in jail.
Starting point is 01:35:02 You're not killing people. You're just firing people. They'll go find jobs in some other field hopefully whatever they they're all probably millionaires anyways or at least have plenty of money these fire them all these bureaucrats probably make decent money yeah and and we should just it's not i'll put it this way i'll meet you halfway in it's not personal it's not punishment It's we have to reset the permanent government. But we don't want a permanent government. So we're going to terminate these jobs. We're going to set a new law, a new standard saying you can only work for the government
Starting point is 01:35:31 for X amount of years. Then we're going to rehire from fresh to just clean house. But what concerns me is an art of war metaphor is that there's a large advancing enemy in front of you. You're like, I don't like that enemy. Everyone, we're severely outnumbered. Everyone advance. Direct attack on like i don't like that enemy everyone we're severely outnumbered everyone advance direct attack on what we don't like like just doing the brute straightforward thing is not the way you win against the superior we're not talking about violence though no no
Starting point is 01:35:54 you're talking about firing no it's a metaphor of how you handle business yeah and and so it's like go in clean other countries get rid of them other countries eliminate their entire governments or at least don't tell them you're going to do it before you do it. There are... Because then they know it's... How is he going to get elected if he doesn't? He's going to run on that. He's got to get elected on that.
Starting point is 01:36:12 And he has to tell the American people that he's going to do that. It is better for him to say, hey, look, I'm telling the American people this is what I'm running on. Then he gets elected. Then he has a mandate from the american people he can say to the bureaucracy hey look the american people elected me for the specific purpose of firing all your asses like otherwise it seems like a dictator going in gets elected doesn't say that he's going to change the government gets elected and then comes in is like everyone's fired and then everyone's gonna be like oh my goodness he's a dictator blah blah blah they're gonna do that anyways but at the very least if he says look i look, this is what I'm running on, and he gets elected,
Starting point is 01:36:47 then he's telling the electorate. The population knows what he's doing before they vote. They vote for him. Then he has the ability to say, look, they knew what I wanted. I was doing this. They voted for this. We're going to go to Super Chat. So if you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel.
Starting point is 01:37:02 Become a member at Tim timcast.com because you can join our discord you see uh we have a super chat from dj says is don jr timcast first ever phone guest well it was he's not because we had uh who did we have call in before on the phone james o'keefe james o'keefe called in and we put the the the phone right up to the microphone but here's the thing we've set up a members only discord server and that's how phone right up to the microphone. But here's the thing. We've set up a members-only Discord server, and that's how Don was able to actually call in, which means we have finally set up a mechanism for call-ins. However, some people have said,
Starting point is 01:37:34 I thought Tim said I'd never do call-ins. We couldn't get video. It was just a phone call. And considering it's Don Jr., and he wanted to talk about the indictment of his dad and the breaking news, I said, let's roll with it. But I think a lot of you can also notice it's hard to have a dynamic conversation when someone's not in the room. So there's a lot that Don needed to say
Starting point is 01:37:54 that I respect and was glad that he came out and said. But what we really need is for him to sit here. So there's like conversations in person are dramatically different. There's social cues. There's, you know, there's there's pushback. Thereback there's oh let me let me you know why don't you jump in things like that so special shout out to alex brucewicz for making that happen yeah absolutely dude don that you know kimberly was on a couple of days ago and you know he was like i'm not on the show don's great man you're gonna want to have this guy on the show and he's gonna make it happen he's gonna come out here and he's gonna out with you guys, shoot some guns with you guys. Yeah, Don, let's shoot guns.
Starting point is 01:38:26 I'm a big gun fan myself. We've got a range nearby with like 1,000. And there's some political folks that run from interviews, right? They have to have the scripted interview. They need to say, this is what we're discussing. I've known Don long enough, and I've seen these guys in action. These guys are willing to take—they believe in what, you know, they actually believe in something and they're willing to talk to,
Starting point is 01:38:47 talk about to anybody. So when you become a member, you can join the Discord, members only, and be in there when we have people show up and jump in the live chat and things like that.
Starting point is 01:38:56 And also, go to castbrew.com and buy our coffee. Yep. We sponsored ourselves. We are producing our own coffee. We're building our own coffee shop and then shops because we want to create physical locations
Starting point is 01:39:07 and we want to create products and we want to expand the business. And we want a parallel economy. We want companies to exist that believe in American values and meritocracy and individual responsibility, etc. All right, here we go. Freedom Jeffrey says MTG is planning on protesting in New York City on Tuesday when Trump is turning himself in. Do you think it is safe for me to live stream it? I don't know. I don't know if it'll be safe. I'll tell you this, because I can't give you advice on safety and security.
Starting point is 01:39:37 There are dangers that come with, you know, police and protests and things like that. I have no idea what's going to happen in New Yorkork but i am not let me just say i i'm somewhat concerned about the potential for escalation because peace peace trump supporters are probably going to show up and far leftists will be in new york where they live be very peaceful because i think alex you mentioned this earlier a mugshot of donald or an nft of a mugshot is one of the greatest things for this campaign. This is not a time to get nervous. T-shirts. Can you imagine what an NFT of Donald Trump's mugshot,
Starting point is 01:40:14 like the only NFT mugshot we've got? Uh, what is this from? Event city young Republicans are hosting a rally on Tuesday with Marjorie Taylor green, um, in New York city. So I think being peaceful is obviously number one. Well, we should see if we can get you connected to film with them
Starting point is 01:40:28 when they're setting up. We'll make that happen. But, you know, I saw a lot of conservatives when this first broke saying, you know, President Trump called for protests. And there's a lot of ways to protest. You can tweet. You can, you know, talk to people. You can, you know, raise your voice, but you can also assemble. And the Democrats, they use January 6, basically as a tactic to assemble peacefully and make your voices heard.
Starting point is 01:41:06 And I don't think that conservatives should be fearful of doing that. But I think people should learn from what took place on January 6th. They should be vigilant. They should be smart. They should be filming. And they should stay away from people that look like Ray Epps. All right. Let's read some.
Starting point is 01:41:22 In the United States, we need to make protesting legal. And one of the greatest quotes i've ever heard in my life from tim it was a long time ago he went america is a protest i was like oh yeah yeah it's true all right it's a 24-7 protest against monarchy oh snap it's dave says andrew tate free if true get him on bro well he's on house arrest um i would i would love to do some kind of interview with him. And I think we mentioned this before. We were talking with Andrew Tate about doing a profile or an interview literally like two days before they arrested him. And it was the weirdest thing ever because we were just like, hey, you know, we were trying to work out if we could send someone out to go sit down with him and like break down who he is, what he's actually working on. And, you know, he was pointing out, it's like, it's a lot of hard work.
Starting point is 01:42:06 It's grinding all day. It's probably boring. And we're like, that's what people need to understand, that they see these clips on the internet and they think the clip he makes where he's doing this quick, you know, pitch is all of it when he's literally telling people all the time, it's a lot of boring, hard work and grinding that you need to do. So maybe, I mean, look, the last thing I'm going to do
Starting point is 01:42:27 is be like, now that you're out, give us the exclusive or whatever. But, you know, we'll try and figure something out. I want to make sure we're being respectful because the dude was,
Starting point is 01:42:35 just got after several months. I'm sure he just wants to have a nice meal and then relax a little bit, maybe watch some TV and be with his loved ones. I can only imagine how much he's changed
Starting point is 01:42:44 after being in solitary. Like he said that I've never experienced anything even remotely like that. No, I mean, long-term solitary confinement, like it's insane. There's this idea that some, you know, in solitary confinement, you do something bad, you go in there for 24 hours and they let you out. You know, I've got to know a lot of these January 6th political prisoners' families. These people are going in long-term solitary confinement, 15, 20, 25 days sitting there in the dark on the ground. Can't talk to anybody, can't see anything. And these are people who are charged for misdemeanors. And that's pre-trial solitary confinement that's what was happening in the dc jail and so uh you know i i feel terrible for for andrew tay i feel terrible for these people
Starting point is 01:43:30 who are being so you know treated incredibly unfairly all right let's read this we got raymond g stanley jr he says tim i have an idea i definitely see it on deaf didn't see it on culture war today to spread the having of chickens idea how about selling roberto jr eggs and folks can raise their own Chicken City chickens? So we've actually been planning that. Chicken City brand chickens. So the issue is, what are the restrictions on mailing eggs?
Starting point is 01:43:57 But the idea was to actually mail like four eggs to various members that are interested in having chickens. And then you incubate them and then you will have the chicken city chicken genetics. So I got news. Roberto Jr. is getting to, he's about to age out of, we're going to do one,
Starting point is 01:44:17 I think Roberto Jr. has got a couple kids already. We're going to do a batch of a bunch of Roberto Jr. kids, and then after that, Roberto Jr. is going to retire. You did well, Jr. So we love Roberto, his dad. But his dad's a dick. We got him from a farm. And it's just, it is what it is.
Starting point is 01:44:33 But Roberto Jr., Allison and I actually incubated hatched and raised in our house and on our own. And we took care of him with a little tiny baby. So he's more like a pet to us. So I'm thinking Roberto Jr. is going to get a bit more luxury treatment than roberto did but roberto's got it good he's got open pastures and he's with the boys so he's having a good time he's a boss but uh roberto jr we're gonna we're gonna take special care of him but it's an issue of once he once he has a wave of babies we don't want him banging his kids roberto did that but it's a chicken thing you can do a joe biden thingto did that but it's a chicken thing you can do a
Starting point is 01:45:05 joe biden thing to do yeah but it is a chicken thing it's called line breeding and you can do it once or twice because chicken genetics are different but we're not going to do that we want to we really do want to bring in isaac who is half brahma half rhode island red but he's massive and he might hurt the hens because he's too big so we're going to figure it out little luke is all grown up love those silkies uh i don't think people have seen Little Luke because he's got a domed skull. And that means if we put him out there, he could get pecked and die because it's a special kind of chicken. But so he's fully grown. He's in his own little locked, you know, little compartment.
Starting point is 01:45:37 He's got a little living space. But he was named Luke. I think it was by Luke because he was blonde with blonde parted hair and a big nose. And then Luke said, he's got blonde hair and a big nose like me. And we were like, we're going to call him Little Luke. So now he's all grown up. But anyway. That's some clever names over there.
Starting point is 01:45:53 Well, you're a genius for having chickens with the cost of eggs. We have too many eggs. I'll give you a carton on the way out. You had Adapolita Luna on your podcast, didn't you? Yeah. So I went to her house a couple, like two years ago in Tampa, in St. Petersburg. And I try to open her gate, and all of a sudden, chickens start walking at me. I'm like, Ana, why do you have chickens at your house in downtown St. Petersburg?
Starting point is 01:46:17 Alex, you need chickens. You have to grow your own eggs. And I'm like, I don't know. Two years later, Ana's a genius. She has her own eggs and i'm like i don't know two years later later anna's a genius she has her own eggs she's not paid 11.99 at the grocery store and uh we need more thinkers like her in congress oh she's an environmentalist too let's read brilliant brilliant we got this from nick p he says as a brazilian immigrant first generation i'm all about trump been to columbia and everything lived a good life then a third world life, now a middle class life.
Starting point is 01:46:45 I can tell you that us legal immigrants want Trump back in. We don't want these woke cultists. That's what I saw when I was in Florida. I mean, but Florida is kind of obvious because Venezuelans and Cubans flee there. And then they're like, none of that. We don't want that anywhere here. So they're all about Trump. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:01 You know, President Trump did incredibly well in 2020 with the Cuban voters and Hispanic voters in Florida. You know, Florida's been red for both terms for Trump or for both campaigns. And it's had a Republican governor for almost my entire life. And so that that states in play. But these people escape corrupt regimes in these countries and they come to America. They want a better life, countries, and they come to America. They want a better life, especially those who come here legally. They want to be able to provide for their kids and have a good life, and they're watching the same bullshit that took place in their countries happening here, and they're not
Starting point is 01:47:38 going to stand for that. And so I think President Trump's going to do incredibly well with minority voters, with legal immigrants, and he's going to win an well with minority voters, with legal immigrants, and he's going to win an incredible landslide in 2024. All right. We got this from The Kellysle. Hi, Tim and friends. This is the third birthday I've donated, so hopefully you read it this year.
Starting point is 01:47:55 I've watched the show dang near every night and thought it was important to let you know. Seriously, thank you so much. I really do appreciate it. And you share a birthday with Kellen. The best day of the year. Happy birthday. It's a good birthday. Happy birthday. And you're lucky it with Kellen. The best day of the year. Happy birthday. It's a good birthday. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 01:48:06 And you're lucky it wasn't one day later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was this kid I grew up with. She had a birthday on April 1st. And I'd always, that's how I remembered. Because I'm like, you're a joke. And it's the day after mine. I was kind of bummed that April 1st wasn't a Saturday.
Starting point is 01:48:18 Because it meant that we couldn't get Michael Malice out here. Yeah. What did he do last time? He slowly turned into Superman. Is that what it was? Take off his suit piece by piece. And then whenever the camera would switch, a piece of clothing would be removed and switch back.
Starting point is 01:48:31 He would look, he'll be more dressed like Superman. That was a good one. I don't know if we were supposed to tell people what the joke was and just let it ride, but it's been a year. Go watch the episode. It's great. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:48:44 Eldridge Nader says, like ian mentioned this has an ominous precedent of targeting previous administrations using force of law as a cudgel this bs threatens to destroy any pretense of legitimacy in u.s politics elections and the world states djt is no crook pray for him well ian's correct and they've uh they've been pointing that out as well um there's a piece in the spectator that says jo says Joe Biden's going to spend the rest of his days seeing his son, his only living son, be in a federal prison. I think it does set a precedent, but also that that's why I'm obsessed with mass pardons, because I think that can quell the precedent and make people realize that we're in this together. M says, why should DeSantis be pro-Trump when all Trump has done is ridicule and mock DeSantis? It's a relationship.
Starting point is 01:49:33 It's Trump mocks DeSantis because DeSantis is not supportive of Trump and back and forth. And because DeSantis starts courting traditional neocon advisors, Trump sees him as potentially wanting to run against him for his reelection and then says, who's this guy? Like I support him. And so I'm not here's here's my thing. Trump is doing a bad job of going after DeSantis, in my opinion. I think he could do a much better job. DeSantis is doing a very bad job of appearing strong in the face of the prosecution, prosecution and Trump's statements. So I'm a little disappointed with all of it. But I think ultimately DeSantis is in the weaker position on this one and probably needs to be
Starting point is 01:50:09 playing smarter if he wants to compete with Trump. I don't think DeSantis is getting it done right. Well, look, I was very supportive of Governor DeSantis, especially when I believed him to be a Trump ally. You know, in 2018, he campaigned on President Trump's message. He piggybacked off of Trump to win the governorship. And he, you know, was a decent ally through the remaining two years of the Trump presidency, the first term. And, you know, and I was very supportive of him. I get called out for this all the time because, you know, if you guys follow me on Twitter, some of you might, you'd recognize that I am very aggressive in my messaging towards DeSantis and Team DeSantis. What do they do?
Starting point is 01:50:49 Well, they screenshot tweets of mine from 2021 praising him for something. And I absolutely did support him as governor. But they can't find a tweet of mine from 2022 in support of him because in January of 2022, we started paying attention and got wind that he was building up the shadow campaign against president trump he brought in new advisors he brought new and so this you know trump first mentioned a negative thing about him in right november but there was this you know a lot of people aren't paying attention to this level of detail but we knew in 2022 that that desantis was mounting a campaign against trump but desantis has done a very bad job of actually playing playing the game right i'll put it i'll
Starting point is 01:51:33 put it simply the first thing i said about this was desantis should be deferential to trump every step of the way his only play is you know trump's the best president I've seen in my lifetime. He is an inspiration to me. His endorsement got me where I am today. And I think it's better for the American people to hear more voices on stage. If the American people say Donald Trump is the guy, then you know what? They're right. But if I was Sanders, I would say what I want to do is I want to be on that stage and I want to speak with the American people and Donald Trump and I want to give them an opportunity.
Starting point is 01:52:08 And if they choose Trump, then that's then so be it. But let's let's give America as many choices. He's not doing that. He's like he's he's playing the C minus level game that actually just comes off as more sneaky and like, bro, we know what you're doing. We know you're running. You know what I mean? Like, be honest. Give us a reason.
Starting point is 01:52:26 Give Trump the praise and credit he deserves. Give him the criticism he deserves, and you'll come out looking better. Instead, it just looks more smarmy than anything. Exactly. And we had, you know, Don was on here earlier. You know how many rallies that Don Jr. did for Ron DeSantis in 2018?
Starting point is 01:52:38 And they're a similar age. Don Jr. went out of his way to help this guy, and we all wanted to help this guy. We all supported this guy. And Don said earlier, we wanted to have a Republican bench. And I think everybody in this room thought, at least if you're a Republican, and if you're in the super chain, you're a Republican, a lot of people thought Trump 24, DeSantis 28.
Starting point is 01:52:56 But the consultants would never let that happen because the consulting class didn't get rich under President Trump. The Karl Roves of the world didn't get rich under President Trump. The Karl Roves of the world didn't make money under Trump. But the problem that DeSantis is running into right now is that he is no longer working with the MAGA people that got into where he is today. He is now working with the folks, the Karl Roves, the Bushes, the establishment consulting class that hasn't won the presidency since 2004. These guys don't know the new Republican Party. They don't know that. And they're ruining this guy's career.
Starting point is 01:53:30 And it's disappointing to say. I agree. I think if Ron came out praising Trump and said, all I can say is I do want to run and I will be on stage with Donald Trump. And if you think he's the right guy for the job, then you are correct. Hear what I have to say. And then there'd be nothing to say against him other than like, okay, well, let's have a broad conversation. Instead, it's like Karl Rove, Jeb Bush, like this playbook doesn't work and it's making him look C minus. But it's an example of serving the office. You want the best person in the role, even if it's not you. I like him. I think he's a great governor and i think he would also be a very good president but i feel like it's very c minus play but uh let's let's read this one uh where are we at kevin harman says if tim pool don jr and ben
Starting point is 01:54:13 chapier had a conversation together at full speed they would travel back in time uh he's correct because we've actually done it um the three of us have been to the future and back is that where you got the beanie? Not the beanie. It's where we got the jetpack. You know the one you were flying around on the other day? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so we actually went to the future and then came back. It was very easy.
Starting point is 01:54:34 Thank you for that thing, by the way. Yeah, once we start talking and then arguing, the speed increases as we attempt to talk over each other. It slows down. It vibrates a few around you. I texted you when you were trying to ask Don a question. I said, you just got to push through. Well, the issue with that is he can't see our faces.
Starting point is 01:54:50 Right. So he doesn't know when like Elad or Phil or Ian wants to say something. And there's digital interference. If you can only hear it over a digital surface, only one noise can get made at a time. So he only hears us when he pauses for a second because when he's talking, he's not going to. Yeah. Like if he's talking to his phone especially which is this is what makes phone call shows on podcasts very very difficult but it was still awesome to have him come on and be like hey the news broke it's huge news talk to us i thought that was fantastic all right let's see phil dude bert
Starting point is 01:55:19 says i want to know what a lot is working on is he going to be in new york reporting we're definitely covering that rally on tuesday the indictment in Trump. We got you. We got you right here. Connected. Huh? Absolutely. Looking forward to covering it too.
Starting point is 01:55:31 Excited to see what happened there. Yep. All right. Let's, uh, let's grab where we at here. Also nice glasses a lot. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:55:39 I like those. It's good. It's got good style. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. Says Don Jr. Just earned himself. The spot is the third best junior. Of course, the ranking is Roberto Jr. Then Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Don Jr. just earned himself the spot as the third best junior.
Starting point is 01:55:45 Of course, the ranking is Roberto Jr., then Raymond G. Stanley Jr., then Don. Roberto Jr. is my favorite junior. That's just because he's my rooster. Is that him behind you? That's his portrait? No.
Starting point is 01:56:00 That's just a chicken picture I got somewhere. It was a chicken picture. It was on sale. It's a nice picture. It's on sale. It's a nice picture. Get a portion of Roberto. It's a good chicken. We have a Roberto Jr. flag. And we are creating a new blend called Stand Your Grounds, which was inspired by the members in the Discord.
Starting point is 01:56:17 Fantastic. And it's going to be a medium roast. And the image is Roberto Jr. Because we have a flag that it's like a Gadsden flag, but it's a rooster, you know, standing up tall with its wings out. And it says, stand your ground. And this is inspired by the fact that roosters
Starting point is 01:56:32 will sacrifice themselves to save their hens. I find it very funny that the phrase, the word chicken implies cowardice when in fact roosters, which are chickens, literally run full speed to their death to buy the hens only a few more moments to escape. Which is like, bro, chickens are brave, man. Like the hens I get, the ladies are like run to cover in safety. But roosters are like, a tiny little rooster will attack a full-grown human being well if you think that feels threatened well just to be clear i make sure i walk on the sidewalk on the right side of the sidewalk so i
Starting point is 01:57:11 would get hit by a car first so basically i'm as tough as a rooster well done look there are a lot of human males in this country who would not run full speed knowing they may die if it meant saving the life of a child and roosters do it special shout out to the two officers at intensity exactly they had the bravery of the noble rooster you saw the guys running up to the door and like the fear where they pause the door and the guy on the crams like go and pushes him and they go into what could be a hail of gunfire lpvo up uh neither in the chat says still no mr bocus blend there is going to be a mr bocus blend that is also in the works we're going to have four signature blends so we've got stand
Starting point is 01:57:50 your grounds and the next one's going to be what did i call it um i think i called it mr bump mr bocus pumpkin spice experience or something like that but i don't know if they actually we can actually do pumpkin spice you got lots of yeah. Fat cat would be a good flavor. Mr. Bunker's not fat. No, no. Well, he's getting fat. You should see him. He's gaining weight?
Starting point is 01:58:09 He's gaining some weight. That's very good. That's very good to hear. All right. Russell Miller says, looks like Merriam-Webster. Uh-oh. YouTube just jumped.
Starting point is 01:58:16 Super Chet's gone. Well, they said Merriam-Webster changed the definition of vengeance. That didn't take long. What? Really? Good grief. Take a look. See if they did.
Starting point is 01:58:27 Tammy says, Tim, I so appreciate you not doing this show by phone. This sucks. You can hardly get a word in. Take a breath, Don Jr. Well, I read that one just to explain I don't blame the person on the phone, but this is why we don't like doing digital calls, because it's really difficult to have a working, flowing conversation when it's online. And I get a lot of people that are like, well, I do tons of shows on like over Skype and stuff
Starting point is 01:58:51 like that. And I'm just like, I get it. And sometimes great ideas can be conveyed on something that it's not, it's not useful in some ways. But what ends up happening was I did, I did Ben Shapiro's Sunday special by we, I recorded myself on a camera while on a low quality stream and then had to mail him a memory card. This was back before we got the internet installed. And it was like, Ben would talk, stop and wait. And then I would talk and then stop and wait. Because it's like, otherwise we know we're just talking nonstop
Starting point is 01:59:20 or talking over each other. At least here, someone can like put their hand up or someone can just go no no no and start talking and then everyone starts yelling and laughing and you know and your show's a lot different setup than a lot of these other shows like you have how many people at this table right now and and most people when they call in there's there's one other voice and i know so your show's a unique setup for that jeff bader gifted 50 memberships to tim castelli wow thank you very
Starting point is 01:59:45 appreciate that and everybody who got the gifted membership he asks what do you feed your chickens well we feed them scraps but um usually only fresh things that are scraps like today we did a sushi order for the company and then we took the leftovers oh man you should have seen it you throw in like a leaf or a flower and the chickens will run over and grab it and eat it. You throw in a small piece of white tuna and those chickens go to war. They're like, oh, man, it's the best thing ever. Fortunately, we had enough for everybody. Everybody got a little bit.
Starting point is 02:00:17 Roberto Jr. is too nice. He waits and lets the hens eat all the fish and then casually walks up and tries to take a little bit. It's crazy. He would kind of walk over a little bit, grab a bite, and then let the hens just rip it apart and then he would just stand up and just wait. And he's a rooster.
Starting point is 02:00:32 He's bigger than all of them, but that's the thing. He wants his ladies to be well fed. He knows it's less important for him to have it and more important for them to have it. Yeah, you don't want hangry women. All right, everybody.
Starting point is 02:00:42 One more chat. Matt H says, Tim, you set up a way for elite members to do franchise a coffee shop. That is in the works. This was suggested a while ago, and we definitely are going to do that. Oh, Jeff gifted another 50 memberships. Thanks, man.
Starting point is 02:00:54 If you haven't already, smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, become a member at TimCast.com, and buy our coffee at CastBrew.com. It's a pre-order right now. You can follow the show at Timcast IRL. You can follow me at Timcast. Alex, you want to shout anything out? I'd like to shout out Douglas Mackey's defense fund, memedefensefund.com.
Starting point is 02:01:15 It's disgraceful that Biden's trying to throw a meme maker in prison. So he needs money to fight and file an appeal here. So memedefensefund.com. My name's Alad Eliyahu. I'm a journalist, guys. You can follow me on Twitter at Alad Eliyahu. And also be sure to follow TimCastNews on Twitter. And I believe a bunch of other social media platforms.
Starting point is 02:01:38 We have a lot of great content there. And that's where you get to check out the newsroom's work. And Tuesday. And Tuesday. I'm going to be on the ground. Tweeting from there, doing interviews as well. So I'm excited for that. So check that out, guys.
Starting point is 02:01:48 I am Phil Labonte, lead singer of All That Remains. I'm Phil That Remains on Twitter. Phil That Remains official on Instagram. And yeah, Ian. Ian Cross pretty much everywhere on social media. Alex, people follow you at AlexBrusiewicz on Twitter. I know for sure. And I wanted to shout out Don's Publishing Company.
Starting point is 02:02:03 It came a few times. What's the name of that company? Winning Team Publishing. Winning Team. And the new book that comes out, I believe it's the last week of April. It's called Letters to Trump. And Richard Nixon, there's an awesome letter in there from Richard Nixon, writes to Trump, when you run, you're going to win. And that was back in the 70s. And Oprah's in there and Alec Baldwin, all these people. When Trump announced this book was coming out on Winning Team Publishing, they're all running to the media. I don't mean what I said about Trump 20 years ago anymore.
Starting point is 02:02:31 I hate this guy now. Sure, Oprah said he wanted to be Trump's running mate if they ever ran for president in 2000. No, not anymore. Not anymore. Not anymore. Looking forward to that. Awesome.
Starting point is 02:02:44 Well, Don, thanks for coming on. And everyone else, have a nice evening. We also, before we finally jet, have this dude with this awesome headband. Thank you. It's the Maryland flag. I know, Tim, you started this. You're like, oh, we hate Maryland. But it's my home state.
Starting point is 02:02:56 So it holds a special place. But hey, good to see you again, Alex. It was awesome talking to Don Jr. Follow me at KellenPDL. Thanks, guys. Happy birthday, Kellen. Happy birthday, man. Thank you. Happy birthday. Follow me at KellenPDL. Thanks, guys. Happy birthday, Kellen. Happy birthday, man.
Starting point is 02:03:07 Thank you. Happy birthday. We have clips up throughout the weekend. You can buy Cast Brew Coffee, and we'll see you all next time.

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