Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #757 Ukraine Whistleblower ARRESTED, Media CAUGHT LYING About Russia w/Winston Marshall

Episode Date: April 14, 2023

Tim, Ian, & Luke join Bill Ottman (Minds) & Winston Marshall (Mumford & Sons) to discuss the arrest of a 21 year old accused of leaking confidential Pentagon papers, a dairy farm explosion that killed 18,000 cows, a TN Democrat who was involved in attacking cars during 2020, & how thousands of Americans continue to flee major democrat cities. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

They got him, ladies and gentlemen, the individual who leaked the papers from the Pentagon about what was going on in Ukraine. And there's some really interesting details now. Now that it's confirmed that this is just apparently some 21 year old dude who was anti-war and was trying to impress his friends. It basically confirms that what's in these papers is real. And what does that mean? It's all in all likelihood Russia is actually winning and the U.S. does have personnel on the ground. That's right. U.S. special forces confirmed on the ground in Ukraine. Well, how about that? at war with the West when the West actually has intelligence and tactical support working in that country in their war against Russia? That'll be fun. And then we'll talk about this video that's come out showing one of the Tennessee Democrats attacking motorists in their cars with a street cone.

My favorite part of this video is actually when one of the leftists waddles around and then falls over, acting like they got struck by a vehicle and then flail and flip around on the ground. It's just remarkable that we as a society take these people seriously. You know, everybody knows when you watch a soccer match, that dude didn't get hurt. He's rolling around on the ground screaming because like a feather touched his ankle. That's what these people do all the time. They'll be standing in the middle of the street. They'll hit a car themselves and then flip onto their backs and start screaming.

And for some reason, everybody's supposed to take that seriously enough. It's time to arrest these people. I guess the problem is the cops are either unwilling or incapable. So we'll talk about that. But before we get started, my friends, head over to, we're first going to jump to Casper Coffee, caspercoffee.com. And you can purchase your Rise with Roberto Jr. Breakfast Blend.

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show and talk to us and our guests. So smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Winston Marshall. Hi. Hi, fellas. Thanks for having me on your show. Absolutely. Who are you? What do you do? I'm a musician. I was a co-founding member of the band Mumford & Sons and quit in 2021 over issues of free speech, I'd say fundamentally. I had tweeted about a book written by Andy Ngo documenting Antifa and it caused some backlash, you could say. It became a big story. And initially, I apologized. I'd say under quite some duress, but also not perhaps being open to not knowing the whole situation. But that didn't rest for my conscience.

And so eventually decided the only thing I could do was retract the apology and quit the band. And since doing that, it's been coming up to two years now. I've launched a new podcast with the spectator which is a british political magazine actually the oldest political magazine in the world and uh still making music and doing media and writing and having fun so uh but thanks for having me on your show and i look forward to speaking to you absolutely we also got bill ottman he's back hey guys thanks for having me back. Yeah, and Winston's also performing this weekend

at MindsFest at the Vulcan, your new record. Psyched to... I'm going to play some old songs. But thank you so much. I'm excited. Bill kindly invited me to play at the... speak at the Beacon where I met some of you guys last... when was it ever?

Last summer, June or something. Yeah. And very exciting what you're doing with Mines. I look forward to hearing more about the latest. Yeah, and yeah, we're all in Austin. It's great to be here with you guys. Tim's got his sold-out show tomorrow night. Yeah, and Tim cast IRL Live at the Vulcan tomorrow in Austin, Texas.

Yeah, so if anyone, there's a few tickets left, almost sold out, Mines Fest, but you can get them at the Vulcan site or at festival.minds.com. Yeah, Minds is a free, open-source, decentralized social network working on internet freedom. If anyone wants to check it out, Minds.com. Right on. Ian's chilling. Oh, I sure am, man. And Bill, you were just on Joe Rogan's podcast. I just saw the first hour of it on Spotify today, and man, it is nice to hear you talking about AGPL3 with Joe Rogan.

We went deep, brother. The AI stuff. AI stuff, Joe. AI, aliens, what's better? It gets deeper. I'm going to watch the other two hours later. Winston, always a pleasure, man. I met you last year, too, at the Minds Fest.

So here's to many more. I'll see you on Saturday. And then, of course, Luke would cask you if we are changed. Aliens has my attention. And also, before we start, friends don't let friends eat seed oils. That's why I'm wearing the shirt that I'm wearing right now, which you could get on thebestpoliticalshirts.com. And today's meetup was a huge success. It was 3.30 on a Thursday and like 50 people came out. Ian was my special guest. Ian, thank you so much for coming out. I'm going to be doing another

members only meetup in Miami in a few days, all on lukeunfiltered.com. Ian, the crowd was awesome. We talked about magnetism. We talked about crazy technology, anti-gravity. It was wild. Interesting crowd. Thanks for having me. Thank you so much. No, it was awesome. And of course, Serge is pressing the buttons. What up, Serge? Yes, I am. What's up, y'all? All right, so we'll jump into this first story. We got big news, ladies and gentlemen, from business insider Jack Tejera, 21, arrested in connection with the Pentagon document leak, Attorney General Merrick Garland.

The suspected Pentagon leaker was arrested Tuesday by federal agents in Dighton, Massachusetts. Merrick Garland identified the suspect as Jack Tejera, 21, a guardsman specializing in intelligence. Tejera allegedly shared highly classified documents about the Ukraine war online. So they're treating this guy like, you know, enemy number one, public enemy number one. But there's a few important things just to bring up right away as to why the story matters. One, the mainstream media lied. Two, Joe Biden lied. Three, it seems like Russia's actively winning the war. And four, actually, there are U.S. special forces on the ground. This is now confirmed. It's not speculation. And well, you know, everything you thought about the war you've been lied to about. And I can just assume that anybody listening to the show is not surprised at all, because I don't know, been here, done that. Yeah, I mean, they've been on the ground since 2014.

And this latest action by the Federal Bureau of Investigations and the DOJ going after this whistleblower, treating him like a terrorist, by the way, the way that they captured him, just just it's just absolutely crazy when this guy is coming forward providing documents that, by the way, the corporate media was gaslighting us, telling us, well, real. Oh, these files don't exist. And they said, oh, no, they do exist. But this one portion about the number of Ukrainian dead troops is definitely manipulated here out of all those documents. And then they told us, oh, it was definitely the Russians that released this information. And today we found out that exactly was not true at all. And there's a lot of big things in these documents.

They were out on Discord for a number of weeks. No one really paid attention to them. But now, after all the gaslighting, after all the propaganda, all the lies, it looks like these documents are legit and they do speak to a lot of the bigger things that are happening in Ukraine that we should have a real serious conversation about.

Sorry, Ian, I cut you off. Oh, Senator Joe Manchin tweeted out, I don't know if you guys saw this, eight hours ago, in my lifetime, I've never seen the United States of America in a more just war. And it's a video.

And people are like, Congress didn't declare war, bro. Like, this guy's a senator and he still doesn't understand. From West Virginia. That's really concerning. Yeah, we're going to make sure he's not a senator for much longer. Granted, he's got a few more years left. There's nothing to do about that because you can't recall senators. But that guy's a scumbag. Yeah, I mean, we used to respect Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon papers and muckrakers and whistleblowers in this country. And now we're doing the exact opposite of that with the Washington Post and the New York Times being accused here working with Bellingcat,

specifically hunting down this whistleblower. Just a few days ago, six days ago, Reuters was saying that according to anonymous U.S. officials, ever heard that one before? You hear it all the time when they try to tell you a bunch of lies. According to U.S. anonymous officials, Russia was behind this leak. Again, why are they continuing to lie? Why do we believe them? The only real way that we could get truth in this country is through whistleblowers. So for them to go after this guy so hard really shows you how they're trying to hide the bigger truths here. Because, you know, if people really knew what the government was doing, if everything was declassified, they would be pissed.

People know that. And that's why they try to suppress the story as much as they did. That's true too. But the big thing here is that in the documents, the reason the media comes out and says these documents appear to be real, but may have been manipulated. That is to say that someone took real documents and altered the numbers.

The reason why they had to lie is that the documents show that Russia's only suffered around 17,000 casualties, despite the fact the media has been reporting 200,000 and that Ukraine has suffered around 70,000, which is now that we know who this guy is, now that we see that it's just some dude who got arrested, not a Russian. Oh, looks like Russia's winning the war in Ukraine. We also have dumping more and more money into it.

And we are losing. Not that i want to be over there and we have kirby coming out telling the press not to cover it who's kirby uh john kirby he's like a spokesperson i mean just a shocking national security spokesperson yeah that's the guy you're talking about here specifically coming out yeah don't report on this and again the pentagon also said don't do it yeah yeah the pentagon also sent specifically coming out. Yeah, don't report on this. And again, the Pentagon also said don't do it. Yeah, the Pentagon also sent notices to social media companies saying don't do this. Elon Musk commented on this saying, you know, if there's one way not to bring attention to a story, this is not the way to do it. I'm paraphrasing.

He didn't say it in the exact way. But this is a big story and highlights a lot of Ukrainian young men that are dying that are passing away and I think we have to start asking the question why what is the goal here what is the purpose here what's really going on here why are we being told everything's peachy everything's the Russians are going to be defeated any moment now you hear it on the television all the time history repeats Russia usually has a very bad way of starting Wars but the longer the wars continue historically the russians have a huge amount of manpower that they throw into these wars and usually are more successful and are able to defeat their victories the longer a war goes on so so to to one prolong this conflict in the

history in the afghanistan of europe that is ukraine is absolutely crazy in in the first way even if you are pro-ukraine but second of all, how many innocent young men, you're destroying an entire population of young men that are being butchered and slaughtered for what? The profit of the military industrial complex? I used to think that, but you guys know about that royal family

that got all inbred? I think they're called the Habsburgs. Was that it? The Habsburgs? You mean the British royal family? Is that them? No, it's like a European royal family and they're all inbred. I think it's the Habsburg family. Was it the Habsburg family? Yeah. Was that it? The Habsburgs? You mean the British royal family? Is that them? No, it's like a European royal family and they're all inbred. I think it's the Habsburg family.

Was it the Habsburg family? You want to check? Most royal families are inbred, by the way. Well, no, for sure, for sure. But it got me thinking as you're talking about this, like, why are we overseas? And, you know, I thought about 1913, you know, the start of the Federal Reserve. Some authoritarian, strong-minded individuals are you know meeting on jekyll island and they're like we're going to create a centralized banking system

and then you know they have kids who have kids who have kids and then you had you know dr ron paul on the show just come right out and say that there was a revolution when the government murdered its president john f kennedy and it's like well okay then and i'm just thinking about it and i'm like that's like the kid of the Federal Reserve people. And now what we're dealing with is like the Habsburg offspring, which is our current military industrial complex. Like they're too inbred and deformed to properly function in terms of international policy. So while China is basically taking over, while they're doing negotiations with Saudiudi arabia and brazil to get off the u.s dollar our hapsburg-esque military industrial complex is like we must conquer ukraine and you're like

for what dude it is the hapsburgs they're known for the distinctive habsburg jaw it's h-a-b-s and they were it's like like if you look at pictures of the habsburg jaw you'll see they were like inbred or known for being inbred these people aren't inbred I think they know what they're doing because they always do it and when it comes to losing when it comes to human sacrifice these people don't care if the United States loses these people don't care if Ukraine loses

Ukraine has been used by many corrupted politicians by many internationalists by many globalists there's a reason BlackRock and Goldman Sachs has all the contracts right now in Ukraine there's a reason they don't care. Look what happened in Libya. Look what happened in Afghanistan. Look what happened in Iraq. These wars aren't meant to be won. We have to think from the perspective of these people don't care about you. They don't care about the United States. They don't care about how we look to the rest of the world.

They care about their contracts. They care about their money. they care about their contracts they care about their money they care about their blood sacrifice which essentially they're doing here when we could have had peace we could have had negotiations we could have had this conflict ended last year in april but no the western leaders got involved flew into ukraine and specifically made sure that this conflict was prolonged which is absolutely insane which is absolutely crazy and now there's u.s special forces operating inside of ukraine with mission functions. 14 U.S. troops. What are they doing exactly there? We don't know. 50 U.K. special forces, 15 French special forces and 17 Latvian special forces, over 100 U.S. personnel in Ukraine right now. And as we even how many people, about 100 U.S. personnel in Ukraine right now, those are the estimates, according to these documents that came out there.

And even Donald Trump came out and said during the Syrian war, he killed a whole bunch of Russians because the Russians were fighting there. How many troops are we losing? Are we even going to be documenting how many U.S. forces or U.S. soldiers? I mean, there's people who volunteer there, but officially this changes the game as well. Trump also responded to tucker essentially acknowledging that nordstrom was perpetrated by us he said it in a in a kind of he alluded to it in a very sneaky way he said it he was like i don't

want to make us look he tucker asked him who blew up the pipeline he's like well i don't want to make our side look back right but it definitely wasn't the Russians. But again, Trump's also analysis of Putin and Xi and Kim was also pretty interesting. That interview was also the dynamics between Tucker and Trump. That's also something people are really looking into as well. That was really eye opening. But what does any of this have to do with my beer? That's a good point, Tim.

What does it? It might get a little more expensive. Maybe it'll get cheaper. Who's to say? We had Jesse Kelly on the show the other day, and he was mentioning that Bud Light, this story, was the first time his neighbors actually asked him about politics. And the reason I bring that up is I'm just like, OK, so basically, U.S. has personnel on the ground. We are actively at war with Russia without a declaration from Congress. We've dumped $100-plus billion into this.

Russia wants to send nuclear weapons to Belarus. China is getting Brazil and other countries off the U.S. dollar. And, well, the U.S. empire is all coming crashing down, or whatever it is you want to call it. And the only thing that animates people is Budweiser what i think about this transparency concept we talk a lot about transparency it's a big part of minds and why the code is free and open source is because you know this guy jack that this 21 year old that is arrested for for leaking the documents you actually talked about with joe rogan on on his show this was before his name came out and it's like you posed a question like if every piece of data was released, would it even be a good thing?

Like it could very well just cause massive war. So I don't know if it's always good to leak every doc, you know. No, not every document, but we need vastly more transparency than we have. I'm curious, how specific did he go through any kind of like a legitimate whistleblower process for this? No, he just put them on Discord. He put them on Discord. So that's kind of asking for backlash. Yeah, but there's no such thing as a legitimate whistleblower process for this. No, he just put them on Discord. He put them on Discord. So that's kind of asking for backlash. Yeah, but there's no such thing

as a legitimate whistleblower process. Well, I mean, there is. No, there is. And then they get ignored or shut down or told to shut up, just like William Binney has. Fair enough. No, no, I'm not saying that he should have like gone and asked permission.

I'm saying that if you, you know, in terms of redacting names in certain circumstances, there is like a due diligence process that can make sense to be a little bit careful. Yes, I understand what you're saying. I feel like all of these platitudes are just comforts for those who want the rules for themselves. That is to say, if the United States does something like Barack Obama blows up a kid, who's going to hold them accountable? They get away with it. But if any other country does it, oh, you better believe they're going to come out and cite all of the rules and read every single one of them.

So when I when I when I think of whistleblowers, they say, well, he should have gone through the process. Right. The process by which he goes to a commanding officer and says they're lying about this and this needs to go to the public. And they say, thank you for bringing this to our attention. Have a nice day. The process and the rules are intended to stop people from telling the American people what's actually going on

and how they're lying, cheating and stealing and destroying our country. No, that's true. It also tells the world. But I mean, go ahead. Oh, I mean, all the Russian people know now too.

That's part of the problem. They knew though. They knew though. You think in Russia, they really believed 200,000 soldiers had been killed? They lived there. No, but I don't think they knew that there were 100 American soldiers. The Russians actually came out with a very interesting statement when these documents first came out, calling it a psyop. So the Russians and the

Russian, I believe, Ministry of Defense a couple of days ago, as soon as these documents came out, we don't believe them. We think that they're being deployed as a way of tricking us. So that was their initial response to all of this officially by the Russian government. But also a lot of other things came out from these documents, including how the United States wasn't just infiltrating and spying on the Russian government and the Russian military, but also the South Korean military, the Israeli military, and the Israeli government as well. And there was a lot of techniques, some people argue, have been disclosed here. I don't know. I haven't seen that personally myself, but that's the

argument we're seeing against some of these leaks being released, that the number of spies, the number and techniques of how they infiltrated these institutions was also leaked. I haven't seen that yet, but that's some of the talking points that I'm seeing out there. This could be a sire. It's worth pointing out that he's only 21 years old. I mean, as whistleblowers come, Snowden was young and he was, what, 29? This guy Jack would know that he's going to get done on the espionage act. He's thrown his life away and he's a kid.

Yeah. Is that not at all suspect how young he is? Perhaps, or maybe not young and reckless. Certainly reckless. Yeah. respect how young he is like is what's perhaps or maybe not young and reckless certainly reckless yeah i wonder if it is a psyop because think about how perfect it would be if you want to get misinformation oh no oh no a leaked document and then it might like basically what happens is when they when the media said some of the information may be altered may be altered by the united states so that when it goes out it's a psyop to manipulate and confuse the other countries that are involved in this. But it is interesting to see the corporate media's response here,

because when Donald Trump was president of the United States, when there was leakers within his administration, they were cheered. They were celebrated. They were promoted. Their story many times was just reported without even question of verification sometimes. But now we have a leaker and then the Washington Post and the New York Times track it down with Bellicat, track them down and hunt them down. That's a big component of the story

that people have been pointing out, that the mainstream media basically acted like an intelligence operation. Extension of the state. Yep, for the state. That is, when the government was like, hey, who leaked this? All of the news outlets said,

we're going to hunt this person down and figure out who it is. But when it came to Donald Trump's leakers, they were like, we must protect whistleblowers. That's the game being played today, man. Yeah. I mean, we need sweeping whistleblower protection reform. I think that's a new type of legislation that just needs more focus. That's what we got with the Arrow program, which is the all domain anomaly research office for ufo whistleblowers so now in the ndaa there's there's now specific protection they're doing an audit of the whole government for for ufo related information but the reason people weren't coming

forward before is because they were they they're terrified of coming forward. What was that thing you guys were talking about? Who was talking about this? That, uh, Tucker Carlson said that whenever troops go like meet aliens or whatever, their brains melt or something like that. Tucker Carlson was on the full send podcast and he described a situation where he was looking into a story where he was hearing of a bunch of us personnel and

us soldiers that had interactions with aliens that had essentially their brains scrambled um so so again i'm paraphrasing here from listening to tucker carlson tucker carlson explains it a little bit better but essentially describing how he has made contact with the people who have verified that there are other entities out there and when they do get near human beings they essentially destroy their mind i would guess that it's more like that cuban thing remember they were doing that like noise weapon or low frequency? Havana syndrome. Yeah, something like that.

I think it's human. I think it's human technology and they're just putting chimeric animals or if they think they saw something that's not human, they might be right, but it could be like part human. You mean the people who think they saw aliens? Yeah, if they show them,

if they're going to show somebody something and try and give them a red herring, they may be doing genetic work on animals and be like, look, it's from another planet. And then in the background, they've got like vorpal sound just messing with your DNA. I don't know about all that,

but I will say, I think if you believe the US military and US government is not doing genetic experimentation and hasn't been for the past hundred years, you're crazy person they they you ever you guys ever hear of the human z no human z you you know that is right i could guess the russian russian human z yeah and so the the story is that uh the russians here's here's the crazy thing about the story chimps so so you can't just hybridize two like species willy-nilly. You have to actually figure out which species has to be the female and which has to be the male.

And I'll tell you the horrifying part about it. Human babies are big. Chimp babies are small. Chimps have smaller bodies. Humans have bigger bodies. So when they were doing these experiments, the urban legend tells that you can't take male parts and put it into a female chimp because the female chimp is too small. You got to put the male chimp stuff in the human female and the human female has to carry the chimp human hybrid. So urban legend is the Soviets actually forcefully took women and made them do this.

Now, I don't know about all that. Maybe. My point is this. Yes, the US government, the Chinese government, they're all doing this stuff. And there was a big story a couple of years ago. China is trying to make super soldiers. They are doing human genetic modification

to make, was it Ubermensch? Is that what it is? Like super humans? Yeah, Ubermensch. Yeah, Superman. Yep. That was the Nazi plan, I think was the Ubermensch. Yep. So i don't know whatever it is you're talking about

again because we're talking about aliens we're talking about i don't know where all this came from the brains with vibration like havana syndrome into it we're in a race car just just turning the uh you made me think of the heart attack the cia heart attack gun which we know exists that that came out in the 70s in the church church community yeah so now imagine what they have now right exactly whenever ever I hear anything about alien anything I am I immediately think it's human how could this be human technology there's there's so zero to no evidence very little evidence of any animal come from another planet there's none you know my favorite thing about ufo stories is they tend to take place near u.s military bases and experimental research facilities

so there's like one story that was in the press and this one is blew my mind the story made it the press it was like naval pilot tells story of strange objects he sees in the sky and then it's like in the in 2013 he was flying a routine mission. He brought the report to his supervisors who said, this is nothing and ignore it. And he was shocked. What if this was the Russians? What if it was the Chinese? How could they ignore this report? And I was just like, uh-huh, maybe it's because they know what it is and you don't. So shut your mouth. And then the best part was the sighting was 100 miles out from a US experimental aircraft facility.

And I'm like, so basically, a dude with limited clearance is doing a routine exercise and sees some experimental aircraft, reports it to his super commanding officer who was like, yeah, don't worry about it. And then it's like, they're covering up aliens.

And it's like, bro, that's our base. Those are our weapons. Shut up. Yeah, they have a technology called super cavitation and what they do is they mount lasers on the front of an aircraft and then force them into each other and shoot this area in front of the aircraft causing space time to cavitate and create a vacuum in front of the plane which draws the plane forward and causes it not to create a sonic boom it still makes noise but it doesn't make is that real yeah super cavitation what this is according to jeremy riss who was on brett weinstein's podcast talking about it so there's technology like that if you see real craft that

sounds like warp drive it's it's definitely a start towards that because if you can evacuate space in front of you you'll be pulled forward that's a big part of of warping through space well i mean this would that would only work in an atmosphere. This is mostly the density of the atmosphere, yeah. Right, you said warping space-time. I don't know about all that. You're right, you're right. You're talking about creating a vacuum in front of you,

which causes... It's warping the atmosphere. Thank you for correcting that. It's warping the atmosphere. They may have technology that warps space-time. I don't know. And then there's also the idea of talking plasma, which is where they focus lasers from a distance and they coordinate them and where they triangulate it creates like a a ball of plasma

that they can move around really fast like a laser pointer and they're probably doing it from space stations right it's basically just a three-dimensional laser pointer and we chase it around like a cat and so there's both and it'll confuse people if they think they're the same thing they're going to be very confused because there probably are actual craft that are able to move to be pulled along how did we start talking about aliens and stuff uh did bill you bring it up i probably am guilty you brought up the arrow program were you talking with rogan about it or something yeah well we were talking about the the arrow program which is like a well-funded government program for researching this now. Um,

and then we, we also went deep into the Virginia Brazil incident, but I don't know how deep you guys want to go. What is the incident? There's a amazing documentary that came out earlier this year called moment of contact by James Fox. Um, and it's basically Virginia,

Brazil is basically the Roswell of Brazil. So, you know, you go there and it's like huge UFO brazil is basically the roswell of brazil so you know you go there and it's like huge ufos it's like virginia virginia virginia i was like yeah yeah it's similar for yeah it's weird um but hundreds of people throughout the city uh saw objects actually these girls saw beings apparently and the whole wing of the hospital had to get demolished because the smell from this thing apparently was so bad it infected the whole building and this is not like the mayor of the city currently is took james fox like all through the city the mayor of virginia is like totally all in on it. They have multiple. When did it happen?

It happened in 96. Wow. So there's a lot of documentation and it's either the biggest UFO story in history or the greatest hoax of all time. But like the sheer number of people who saw the military checkpoints all over. Like you guys got to watch the documentary. I'm not, like, let's do it. Let's go deep next time after you've all seen it because it is completely wild. I was blown away.

So bringing it back, I guess, if the question was the U.S. really does have this crazy advanced technology, why aren't they using it in Ukraine? Why aren't they using it in general? Well, if we have have it it doesn't necessarily mean that we know how to use it if there's any kind of recovered materials i don't know i mean like the u.s is developing weapons and stuff because these wars aren't meant to be won they're meant to be prolonged um and and when you continue the war you of course have so much of a not only

profit incentive but control incentive. You have to understand the Ukrainian country also controls a lot of the wheat that's exported all around the world. Russia also, when it's being hit with its sanctions specifically, controls a lot of energy around the world as well. So limiting the amount of energy, limiting the amount of food around the globe is something that a lot of these top globalists are really into and love having that kind of position of power. And essentially, I don't think they care if Ukraine wins or loses at the end of the day, especially with how they're treating them, especially with how they're prolonging this battle. Now, there's a bunch of black projects.

There's a bunch of black budgets. There's a reason trillions and trillions of dollars usually goes missing from the Pentagon every few so years. What are they spending that money on? Well, probably more ways of destroying the world. But they also know at the same time, we use this latest kind of insane technological advancement. The Russians will probably use something as well, or the Chinese will use something as well. And they're also developing a lot of this kind of doomsday style technology. I mean, the Russians are openly talking about a Poseidon nuclear bomb that will send a tsunami of nuclear waste towards what they say they have. The Russians say they have a lot of stuff. Doesn't mean they always do. They kind

of also talked about how great their latest tanks were. And we really haven't seen them kind of highlight that in the battlefield that's happening in Ukraine. So again, a lot of this is also saber rattling. A lot of this is also just kind of posturing so when we look at this larger perspective and picture um it is a very uh complex one but but when you really look at it yes there is technology that could kill us whether it's artificial intelligence whether it's tsunamis whether it's nuclear bombs nuclear bombs are still just archaic, old, decades very, very ancient weapons compared to the latest technological advancement that they

have now. What exactly do we have? What do they have? Who the hell knows? But it's scary and it's terrifying that we're doing all this, including when we look at the realm of bioweapons that could be used here and genetically specific weapons that could be used here, especially with so many governments harvesting people's genetic codes and DNA code.

Have you guys seen the video of the ship with the laser on it? They point the laser at the drone, and the drone bursts into flames. Isn't it like an invisible laser? It's like a microwave or something? It's infrared, I'm pretty sure. So, not microwave. I don't think that's a laser. It's infrared, so it's this gigantic lens,

and it just points at the drone, and the drone just bursts into flames and then crashes. That's how you beep drone swarms. Or humans. What kind of range? I think it was like thousands of feet or something ridiculous. It was nuts. And I'm just wondering, if they have that kind of stuff, they don't use it on people? Imagine if they set that up around

Ukraine. They built these big towers. I guess the issue is electricity, if the power's being cut. Yeah, because if you have a power source like fusion generator in addition to that you don't want to end the war the military industrial complex maybe wants to prolong the war you don't want to lose your most advanced piece of technology to the enemy just in case if you have like one or two fusion powered high beam weaponry you don't want to put it in ukraine because if someone gets a hold of that i don't think it's as simple as you know the we don't want to win the war i think that there are major factions of the military industrial complex contractors and whatnot who have like a ton

of financial interest in the war but you know a lot of people in the military i think do want to so there's it's not black and white like that like i agree you know what i'm saying yeah i want to ask you guys did you guys hear about that uh that that cow farm or whatever that blew up what was it 18 000 cows how much how many it was apparently they burned to death or something yeah where's that so i don't know do you guys do you guys know where it was someone look it up because i don't have the story pulled up but we just started talking about you know war and collapse and all that stuff and then what i'm seeing from a lot of commentators i'm seeing from a lot of older people that are saying like all of my life i have never seen this many

food plants and you know farms blow up burn down or otherwise just be destroyed that was in texas actually it was in texas people. And I'm seeing people be like, it feels like something else is going on here. And we're talking about Ukraine. Ukraine is the breadbasket of Europe. I got to wonder how much of this may be intentional, intentionally disrupting and taking out food supplies. Like, what are the chances?

I'm not saying it's true. I'm saying, what are the chances that powerful global elites fear climate change to the point that they would actively destroy food plants, farms and Ukraine, the breadbasket of Europe, for the purpose of reducing food supply and limiting population growth? Again, not saying that's true. I'm saying like all of these things seem to be happening. So I'll put it this way, whether or not there's any grand conspiracy there, because I don't see any evidence for that. I'm just saying that food plants are being shut down through fires, cows are burning to death, chicken farms, all of that stuff. And then you've got the Ukrainian war. You've got the it was the Dutch farmers being told to stop farming, all of those things happening at once.

And I'm like, whether it's on purpose or otherwise, food production is shutting down. I think one of the phenomenons at play there with those sort of elites isn't necessarily, like you, I haven't seen evidence of it, although I've read most of Klaus Schwab's books. And what there is evidence is that he has a completely different set of priorities. And if your priority is to defeat this great supposed climate apocalypse,

you just forget about the other things. So I think that's maybe more more at play and that's certainly the case in the netherlands with the the dutch farmer revolts where they just prioritize their green policy completely neglecting the uh the farmers themselves and and and that's why they they they stormed up against yeah and there's an example in california with them shutting down gas-powered cars. By 2035, they're not going to sell gas-powered cars. But then they say, hey, we're having a heat wave. Don't charge your electric car, please.

The short-sightedness and heavy-handedness of motion with government sometimes. I agree with you. It's not short-sighted. I think it's done on purpose, to be honest with you. Sorry, Bill. Well, it's interesting that you actually read Klaus Schwab's books. I want to hear a little bit more about that. What's your feeling from him reading his words?

The most terrifying thing, and if there's one book to read, it's not The Great Reset, it's The Great Narrative. Because in this book, he tries to create what is essentially a new quasi-relig religion with a new moral structure in fact there's even a chapter called uh morals and values where they into they they replace the metaphysic that normal religions have let's say with a god with climate catastrophe and i mean all his literature is a total joke you know he keeps saying i don't want to catastrophize but throughout all of it it is like climate catastrophe climate catastrophe climate

catastrophe so and that's the new god he's trying to create and he's trying to build a moral structure on top of that and that's how he's trying to unite the world instead of essentially it sounds like the perspective is correct me if i I'm wrong, there is no climate crisis, and he's creating a unifying enemy to try and create a moral structure around for the sake of globalism. And he takes the worst scenarios. They're usually written as unlikely or highly unlikely, but he'll take the worst case scenarios and think we need to do something about this. So I'm not sure how a good, as far as you can have good faith with Klaus Schwab, right? A good faith scenario is that he really believes that.

Well, he'll do anything to- Guys, this has me scared. We got obama we gotta help him he he must not know this he bought waterfront property in martha's vineyard someone's gotta send send him an email or something texted me earlier he's freaking out no i'm not imminent he didn't text me there's billy moob's gates also beachfront property oh no do they know I don't we gotta help him we gotta send him an email and let him know

that the water levels are gonna rise there could be a climate catastrophe if we do nothing but the problem with these models is they don't take into account

mitigating factors or changes in technology or carbon capture I got an answer for you guys in all seriousness when everyone says if there really was

a climate catastrophe why would Bill Gates and Barack Obama and many others buy waterfront property? And my answer is, it's simple, because you will own nothing and you will be happy. Their plan is, I can own this waterfront property because we're going to solve the problem by taking away everything from you. Yeah, we're going to solve it, and I justify it because I'm buying the carbon credits. I can fly. I can fly private. They're not justifying anything.

They don't need to justify anything. Let's say this. It is a fact. Ocean levels will rise if we do nothing. Barack Obama and Bill Gates are like, oh, but we are going to do something. We're going to take away the property rights of the regular working people. That will solve the ocean level crisis, and I can buy my property. But how will that solve the crisis? If humans stop consuming and stop producing and stop reproducing and have all their property taken away, the mentality is

this will avert the climate crisis, meaning the powerful elites are allowed to keep their property, keep their jets, keep their cars. So it's not that Obama doesn't believe it's happening. He just believes he's going to win. Or he doesn't actually believe that there is a climate catastrophe in the same way that they all take private jets to get to Davos. If they truly believed it, they wouldn't take the private jets. It could be the same phenomenon. They don't actually believe it deep down. This isn't my point. I think it's possible they do believe it and it's simply it's simple enough that they're saying okay if we all keep flying on private jets it's bad for the environment so let's take away the property rights of the poor people so we don't have to stop get it john i get it but go ahead

no i was just saying john kerry actually recently got confronted what you know how do you justify flying private so often and he just point blank said like i buy the carbon credits to offset it and he thought that it was all good the carbon credits a total scam as well if you like dig into that stuff it's almost impossible to guarantee the carbon credits they've got to let's say you're building trees you've got to find a country that's politically stable that the trees can last 30 40 40, 50 years, actually grow. If you dig into that stuff, it's a total con. Well, so I want to ask you, because you're reading Klaus Schwab's book, is this a new phenomenon? Or did something happen to wake you up? Because I'm just imagining you're

hanging out with your band, and they're writing a song, and then just over beers, you're like, have you guys read this Klaus Schwab stuff? And they're like, Winston, what are you talking about? I've been concerned about Davos and the WF for a long time, I'd say. Basically, I have an allergy to elitists, certainly in elitists, unelected, un-get-rid-able types. I've had that in my family,

journalists in the family, and this is the kind of conversations we have so i've been interested in that stuff a long time and i think just like seems like you you fellas you see the stuff they say like you'll be you'll own nothing you'll be happy and you think bloody hell what the hell is this and why on earth are my elected officials why is my prime minister going to davos why is it it's almost likely that the Labour Party will be in power in Britain? And Sir Keir Starmer, who's later leader of the Labour Party, he was off at Davos. Why are these people all going?

And in the conversation with these unelected elites like Klaus Schwab, who you can't get rid of, who are dictating the conversation. Why are they going there? It's the Coachella of politics. It's exactly like that. You know what would be cool, though? If, like, at Davos, in their highly secured facility is this machine called the Progenitor device that

connects to base reality outside the simulation, where all the world leaders communicate with the 17-year-old who's playing SimEarth. That's just it. You know, nothing, nothing. There's no big conspiracy. Well, the occult is a big part of people that get really, really rich

and they have not much more to gain. They start going inward. Maybe, Luke, you can explain more about that. I know, I've seen stuff. I've read stuff. I don't know for sure. Luke, is Bohemian Grove still happening? Yes. So is the Bilderberg meeting.

But the Bilderberg is not nearly as Bohemian. Hold on, hold on. That we know of. I gotta say this. Remember when Bilderberg was a conspiracy theory? Yeah, they first told us it doesn't exist and if you think it does exist, you're a crazy conspiracy theorist. Then they said, oh, it does exist, but nothing really happens there.

It's just the world's most powerful people coming together in secret meeting together and having off the record meetings as they arrest members of the press like myself trying to report on it. Nothing to see there. And then they're like, oh, yeah, little tidbits here from The New York Times, The Washington Post admitting that this is where politicians are selected to be vice president. This is where major decisions are being made, specifically with the larger geopolitical perspective. At Bilderberg last year, there was a NATO member that was able to, of course, achieve NATO member status that was first discussed at this Bilderberg meeting. I'm going to look at the particular details of that and get back to you guys here in a little

bit. But as you were saying, Bill, it's not that they're playing politics. Politics is just theater to them. They're playing a whole different game and a whole different perspective here. And what you guys are joking about is the actual serious things that they're discussing. Yoel Harari gives lectures about how there's going to be useless human beings out there and how we need to pacify them by giving them drugs and video games. And when we look at what's happening in society... Is he wrong? Yes, he's wrong.

He's absolutely, he's absolutely wrong because they're the ones building the, the technological advancements. They're the ones that part of the fourth industrial revolution, creating this situation where we have the haves and haves not. I just want to point this out though. I don't believe the, the end result that these people are preaching is the appropriate response.

But I certainly think there is a cognitive dissonance in complaining about the woke cult, but then also saying there aren't useless people out there. I guess you can say that the woke cult is the useful people for these autocrats and dictatorial warmongers. They want a mindless zombie horde to do their bidding. But I look at it like we, I think we do have a problem. I'm not going to sit here and tell you I know everything about climate change. I don't. I think it's, it's plausible that overconsumption can lead to

any kind of pollution or environmental disruption. I think that's a fair point. I'm not going to pretend like I know enough and I don't trust people who buy beachfront property and then tell me to sell, you know, sell my car or whatever. But I also think you go to these big cities and you will see nothing but useless people. And I'm not trying to be a dick. They don't have to be useless. But the problem is many of them are listless and purposeless. And then they seek out authoritarianism. They support the worst of the worst ideologies. They actively disrupt and destroy. so not that i agree with that guy who's kind of a nightmarish despot i do think it's important to point out we have a cultural problem in the u.s where we have a large swath of people who don't contribute anything but just drag the system down

combine that with the fact that they also don't have a god right so they they get behind let's say it's the woke religion or the environmentalist religion all these different quasi pseudo religions filling the void and they have meaningless lives it's a serious issue that we have to address we have to find create meaningful lives for people so in that sense much as you all, Noah Harari puts my back up and get very nervous at the stuff he says that I think you're right. We have a meaning meaning purpose crisis in the West. Let me let's let's pull this story from the post millennial. Check this out.

Video shows reinstated Tennessee state rep Justin Jones stopping cars and assaulting drivers in the summer of 2020. This is what I'm talking about. So we were just talking about this idea of useless people. You've got two trains of thought happening right now. This, what's Yuval Harari, is that his name? Yuval Noah Harari, yeah. Noah Harari.

He's talking about these useless eaters. But these are like the Davos group people who are more, you know, I don't know, comic book villainy. But I do think that there may be a separate perspective on how to deal with the problem. Their view, I think, is dark. The global, the Davos group, all the stuff, they're like, you will own nothing and you'll be happy. My view of dealing with the useless eaters or whatever it is he calls them is to provide purpose and meaning. Exactly. So I look at this story. This story is extremely important because this is an elected Democrat state rep, I believe, yes, state rep, who is attacking vehicles in the summer of 2020 and then gets elected to office. This guy reportedly assaulted members of the Tennessee legislature in 2019, throwing coffee at them, hot coffee, and was banned from the Capitol building.

He is a violent extremist who now holds a seat of power. And when he was expelled for joining the insurrection, the Tennessee Capitol, they reinstate him. I do not see our system maintaining itself if these people are taking seats of power. And I warned this would happen in 2018. People told me I was crazy when I said this stuff will reach the highest levels of government. Next stop, federal government. And what happens when you have Antifa, violent Antifa extremists getting elected to Congress, which is already on the horizon? I mean, AOC is on the borderline of being a far left extremist. Granted, she still plays ball with the establishment. But next up, the next four years,

the next eight years, we're going to start seeing psychopaths like this sitting in the Senate and they're going to be advocating and defending more violence like this. Then the system breaks. One of the things, and there's a lot about this story that's shocking, but this story is only really covered, as far as I could find, on the post-millennial. If this was the opposite party, it would be not only legacy of mainstream media across America, it would be worldwide news. Imagine that there was a Republican who was involved in January 6th, actually part of that. We would never hear the end of it. They tried making that the narrative, saying that people like Marjorie Taylor Greene was giving tours or something, trying to insinuate that there was pre-planning on behalf of the Republicans, which is all just utter nonsense.

But yes, if this was any Republican, it would be international. And why don't the Democrats just come out and condemn it? It's simple. Condemn it. And then they'll look more reasonable. You know what I think? Have you seen Kingsman, the first one, the movie? Years ago.

So the villain is a tech billionaire who believes the world is overpopulated. So he wants to preserve all of the wealthy individuals that he likes and gives them these devices to protect them and then gives away free cell phones, which when he can press a button, they'll emit a sound that makes everybody go crazy and kill each other. It's really funny how they make this movie.

And this guy is like, the earth is overpopulated. So it's giving itself a fever and it's killing everybody. That's basically how he talks. I'm imitating him. And so the premise of the movie is tech billionaire wants to kill billions of people to save the earth. Then you look at stuff like this and you're like, why is it that.

You know. These Davos group individuals. These billionaires. And these Democrats. Don't understand. That their policies destroy cities. That they're supporting violent people. Why is it that you get a video.

Of a dude filling a black garbage bag. With products at a Walgreens. And you can't do anything to stop them. It's like. Because they're on the side of the villain in the movie Kingsman, their mentality is let the system be destroyed by itself to save the planet. Tim, I think you're onto something quite interesting there philosophically, because most of the great evils, if not the vast majority, taken out in the world were people who

philosophically believed they were doing the right thing the communist Stalin thought he was doing the right thing I'm sure there were psychopaths amongst them perhaps Hitler was one the Nazis they thought they were doing the right thing and that's how they're able to do such evil if you believe you're doing the right thing you can do the work the absolute unimaginable atrocities. And I think that analogy at the Kinsman probably apt for that. And that's just it. These people- They think they're doing good.

The useless eaters that that guy describes, this is how he views them. And so what better way to reduce, you know, the saying is, you are the carbon they are trying to reduce. What better way than let the system fall apart? Stop maintaining it. Let it fall.

And you'll cut population down or at least population growth. And I'll put it this way. Bill Gates has a TED talk where he says, if we work hard enough in these areas, we can reduce population growth by, what do you say, like 10 or 15 percent or something like that? Now, a lot of people immediately came out and said, he's talking about reducing population by 10 or 15%. No, no, no, no. He said population growth. His whole bit publicly is, too many people are coming too fast.

Let's slow that down. But of course- It's the opposite is true, by the way. Well, my point is that position makes no sense. You can't be like, we have too many people. Let's just have too many people slower. You either think there's too many people and there should be less of them or you don't think there's too many people but continue well the the real problem the thing that i am most concerned about everything is

population decline that we are we're going to have an aging population with and this is happening now and across the world where uh i think most the countries, if I'm not mistaken, you might need to fact check me on this, are now population growth is in decline. So even in Africa now, the average amount of children per family has gone from seven to four, I say, and it's going in that direction. What you're then going to have is an old population who are not working, having to be supported by the working population which is getting smaller and smaller and smaller and what happens in that that old people die old people well old people die but it continues that that phenomenon continues as the population declines in fact hungary is the only country in the world that are implementing policy to encourage mothers

to have more children and that is should be far more concerning to the elite, not Hungary. But Poland is too, and so is China. Is that right? Why would it be concerning to the people who want less people? The global elites, the people like Bill Gates who come out and say there should be less people, are probably happy to hear that there's less people. And I think the answer to this is very, very simple for anybody who's listening. There's two things you can do. Everyone says, Tim, what can I do? I hear about all these bad things. What is going on here? Two very, very simple things you can do. The first,

don't buy Anheuser-Busch products. No more Budweiser, no more Bud Light. I think Michelob's in there, Modelo, Scheinerbach. Get it all out of there, figure it out, and buy a different beer brand. It sounds absurd, but that's true. But more importantly, the real point I was going to make is have a bunch of babies. Have 10 babies. What you mentioned is happening, but it's happening on a grander level in the Western world.

So populations aren't replacing the population that is dying off, especially in places like Europe, especially in places like Japan. And these crashes are going to have significant ramifications, not just for the economy, but for society in large. And when you look at the actual numbers, you look at the actual stats, we're not dealing with too many people. We're dealing with a problem

that's going to be very severe because of too little of people. And Elon Musk talks about this all the time. Bill Gates still, for some reason, still, Klaus Schwab and a lot of elites, too many people in this world. And when you look at all these kind of soft policies, when you look at policies that could be described as fifth generational warfare, especially when it comes to people not having a family unit, especially when it comes to people cutting off their reproductive organs, when it comes to people being poisoned by microplastics or seed oils or chemicals that are incentivized and of course paid for by tax subsidies all of those things coalesce under situations and circumstances where people are

less fertile having less babies having less families and and this is really reaching a crescendo moment that's going to be tragic not only for the future generations but the future of the earth which is going to have civilizational collapse very soon if this is not addressed. And the only countries addressing it is Hungary, Poland, and China that I've seen personally myself. We don't need the government to address it. We need honest, moral people with good morals to just have babies. We need both. But I also say there's geopolitical ramifications as well.

Louise Perry has just written about this on UnHerd. Currently, South Korea is in massive population decline. North Korea is still growing. So we'll be in a position, and I forget in how many decades, but not very long, where North Korea's population will be twice as much as South Korea. They'll be able to walk in. They'll just take over. Geopolitically, it's a massive issue.

It's a huge issue. It's going to be tragic. It's going to be absolutely horrible because the trajectory that we're going on, especially with not just the reproductive care or abortion, uh, but, but more specifically with, with testosterone levels and sperm levels dropping dramatically to the point where it's shocking, where, where people and some experts are saying we could soon reach a point in time

in our lifetimes where where males can't reproduce there's a there's a crazy visualization surge i don't know if you can pull this up but it's a if you search in gadget humans in a pile it's it's basically a visualization of of what all the humans if they were just put into a pile would look like oh like where it's like a big mound yeah it's like a big mound yeah and it's just you know there's a lot of people i hear but it's not no but the point being it's not that much space here's oh right right yeah here's here's here's what i think is is going on i think these powerful davos type elites don't really care all that much about too many people they care

specifically about the useless eaters yeah if these people were all doing functional tasks then we would have like i'll put it this way maybe they don't believe i don't know these people seem to be crazy and out of their minds if every person on this planet had a specialty and filled the quota of their uh economic um requirement meaning let's say Earth could handle, you know, 100 million rocket engineers. If every single person, if every single job in that was filled, and every single person was doing a legitimate job that advanced human civilization, we would be colonizing other planets already. We'd have warp drive. The problem is large portions of humans on this planet do nothing. And that's what these people think. They become nightmarish, despotic psychopaths

who think, let's just get rid of people. Where the solution is, we should educate the next generation, give them purpose and give them morals and craft the mechanisms by which humans become useful eaters. That's actually what they want, I think. And what the concern is,

is the age of automation is we're entering a fourth industrial revolution now where artificial intelligence is taking over people's jobs. We'll have less need for human labor, and they are very concerned about the useless eaters revolting or losing their mind. They don't have enough. This happened with the Luddites.

What exactly? During the industrial revolution, people were like, I will not have this, and then you get the Luddites, people who just opposed the advancements. I kind of disagree with you guys. I think they're more of a destructive force. I think they're more sociopathic. I think they're more deranged than you guys give them credit to. Because even if everyone was productive and had a purpose and had a belief system and all that, I think throughout human history, there have always been a group of individuals or one individual trying to take control of the entire world. I think this is what it's really about at the end of the day.

I think it's about control. I think it's about enslavement. No matter what we do, there is always going to be a group of sociopathic individuals trying to control everything for themselves, either for demonic reasons or just human reasons. Now, we'll stop and ask ourselves, what is going through their mind if that is the case? What is their goal and what is their desire? Is their desire something as one-dimensional as I just want to control things? Or is their goal something like I want eternal life? There's another aspect to it, and I think this applies to Davos, is the banality of evil,

which is that you have, for example, at Davos, you have a lot of politicians who are thinking, what am I going to do after I'm kicked out of office? I need a high-paying job. And then you have a lot of the corporates who are there who have a ton of money, but don't have the power that the politicians have, so they want to be there. So they have their own individual personal ambitions, which is driving them there. So they have their own individual personal ambitions, which is driving them there. They might not be thinking, how do I control the world? Some of them, I'm sure, are thinking that. But I think a lot of them are thinking, how do I make my life better? And so they go along with what ends up being evil

sort of phenomenas of evil groups like that. I have a feeling if we do create purpose and productivity, that it will take some of the burden off of Klaus Schwab's mind. Because I don't look at him as like a violent psychopath that wants to burn. I think they're trying to prevent World War III and they're desperate. And so they're like, put them in pods. I don't know. What? But look, it doesn't matter.

I disagree so much. I mean, ultimately't matter he ultimately benefited the doubt at the very least i disagree look at this look at this guy attacking the motorist right this guy thinks he's stopping world war iii this guy thinks he's stopping climate change but he's clearly a deranged psychopath who's doing nothing but attacking random innocent motorists yeah now klaus schwab's no different yeah he thinks he's doing good but what he doesn't maybe doesn't know or he's taking a risk on is that centralizing authority has never really worked on the human experience. But it has always been something

that many people have tried to achieve throughout human history. And no matter how many people they slaughter and enslave, that is always their end goal and has always been their end goal. And to think that this doesn't exist now when it existed all throughout human history is very naive

because now with the technology, now with so much power now with so much power, with so much influence, with so much wealth concentrated against so many few individuals, they have an abundant amount of resources. They have quantum computing. They have artificial intelligence. They have new technology that could essentially help them live forever while everyone else is going to be, of course, enslaved to this system that they're building all around us. And when we look at what they're incentivizing

and we look at what they're attacking, what are they attacking? They're attacking religion. They're attacking purpose. They're attacking labor. They're attacking the middle class. They're attacking any human beings being productive, doing good things.

What are they incentivizing? Social justice warrior woke causes like this. They're incentivizing a divide and conquer agenda that has people fighting each other they're in some incentivizing system that is essentially order out of chaos and creating this horrible situation where we're fighting each other and not even having real deep discussions about how big the rabbit hole goes and who's really in charge because they don't want to be challenged exactly you're right about the control but i think they're more like the villain from kingsman. They want people to erase themselves.

Yeah, my question, though, is who's they? I mean, it's kind of tongue-in-cheek. Davos? Exactly. Klaus maybe has one motive, but Xi Jinping has another motive, and Joe Biden has a motive. And Putin? Together, maybe one of them is a violent psychopath. They're all like mafia crime families, but they understand that if one family or if something else threatens the alliance or the game that they're playing, that they take them out.

So when you look at everything, it's multiple factors. It's multiple organizations working together, and they have a shared goal. And obviously, sometimes they fight within each other, but they always make sure that the game continues and the game is rigged against you. One of the reasons that the problems they identify are, for example, not poverty, but inequality, or let's say it's the environmental crisis, is because those are issues that cannot be solved, the problems that they identify, that cannot be solved from the ground up. Rather, we need to hand over our power to the technocrats. And that's maybe where the power thing comes into play that I think I probably agree with you.

As they're funneling and fueling the problems. Look at George Soros and how much money he's throwing at district attorneys. What has been the cause of George Soros spending about a million dollars on every district attorney? What has happened? What's happening in America right now? I just read this story earlier. There's a mass exodus out of new york and there's a mass uh migration to florida they say just in the first quarter 10 000 people swapped their new york state

ids for florida ids new york's in a state of decay hasn't happened since covet there was there's hundreds of hundreds of thousands all of these all of these democrat cities are just ripping themselves apart they vote blue and then they don't like the policies and they leave but but it's it's it's remarkable that there is no way in my mind the mayor uh you know people like de blasio and now adams that the mayors or or you know who's the current mayor of la but you had i think it was garcetti during a lockdown there's no way they did not know what they were doing like i just don't gavin newsom for instance he goes to florida you guys see this video yeah LA, but you had, I think it was Garcetti during lockdown. There's no way they did not know what they were doing. Gavin Newsom, for instance, he goes

to Florida. You guys see this video? He goes to Florida and he says, authoritarian regime, DeSantis banning books. He knows he's lying. There's no way he actually believes the things he says, which means the only conclusion is they're all evil. He was arresting people for running

businesses, for having a restaurant that all evil. He was arresting people for running businesses, for having a restaurant that was open. He was arresting people just for trying to live and survive in the state of California. And he has the balls to go to Florida and say, DeSantis is a what? I mean, it's just so on your face. It's so ridiculous that it's insane. I got to say though, guys, if you're aware of what's going on,

then you've already started making your plans to get away from these cities you've left these cities you've maybe gone to florida or texas or a rural area you've perhaps purchased some chickens which are now creating more of themselves it's a really amazing thing they do not only do they make food for you but that food could actually turn into more of them which can then make more exponentially so you're aware of what's going on. You're protecting yourself. You're learning. You're having a family.

You're taking your kids out of school. The end result of this is the policies enacted by Democrats is just causing harm to their own constituents. They are promoting policies that sterilize their constituents, that cause their constituents to abort and destroy their own children. And then they bring about corruption in their own cities. It's almost like this. Imagine there was a civil war happening. Imagine there was an actual civil war and it was Republicans versus Democrats, left versus right. I couldn't ask of anything more of Democrats, right? If you were on the right and you were

like, we are going to war, here's my plan. We will infiltrate the seats of government in our opponents' cities and then enact policies that will erode and destroy those cities and cause their citizens to flee to us. Then we will control. They're self-destructing themselves. And if you told me what happened was Republicans infiltrated Democrat cities to destroy them, I'd be like, well, they're doing a good job of it. I can't see. Why else would they do these things that's my point gavin newsom knows he's lying he knows he's destroying things you can't look at they have a map you can look up for san francisco that shows you where all the

poop is i'm not i'm not exaggerating it's true it's true it's like someone took google maps and then they made uh you know you could do a plug-in or whatever yeah it's like someone took Google Maps and then they made, you know, you could do a plug-in or whatever. Yeah, it's pretty accurate. The heat is emitting? No, it shows little brown pins. It's like Waze. You tag it. There's brown pins.

Oh, you tag it. Yes, and so what happens is someone, when they see poop, they will write down the address and put it in the map. And so the whole of San Francisco is one, it's all brown

because every inch of it is covered in these pins. Gavin Newsom, Nancy pelosi these people know that that that that is a problem they don't care this is the part they do nothing to stop i get start to get nauseous at this part of the conversation because i had a crazy dream last night a crazy dream but i was the president and we were like we did it we finally did it let's go we're gonna go sign the let's go sign the paperwork in your office and we walk like, we did it. We finally did it. Let's go. We're going to go sign the paperwork in your office. And I walk into my office and a guy points a gun at me and shoots me in the heart as I walked in.

You cannot defeat the military industrial complex. It cannot be stopped. So it's either get along or throw your body away is where I'm at. Other than that, I'm just like, let's just jam and make some hot music. And maybe we can convince everybody that way. Because even Klaus Schwab likes music.

They have those weird singers, those weird musicians. I remember that. But when that happened, the guy shot me in the heart. I said, this is a dream and it's my dream, so I'm rewinding this. And then I went back and got the guy's name

and it started with an S. It was a very, very disconcerting dream and it led me to think that if I pursue the political solution, I will be offed by the system. But there are other ways to solve this and a lot of it is local governance and taking care of your family and your neighborhood but i think you need to be aggressively creative i think that's a bit for me anyway that's my path i agree with you on that

there's a lot the political stuff you know they're all fucking liars but if you actually just start with loving your neighbor just start at home that's a bloody good start and if everyone just started at home thinking who's on my street who can i help let's do this let's look after our family that's how you actually defeat it the opposite and forgive me if i get a bit churchy lads but the opposite of all this devil stuff is it's the church it's scripture it's the bible that's literally the opposite that's how you defeat it but yeah i mean no you're not changing anybody's mind if you can't have a good relationship with your family at home on thanksgiving dinner it's like being able to have conversations at home

with your parents who you completely disagree with like you have to have that skill you're doomed without it and no one can there's so many people who are abandoning their parents you know just you know they're talk of like trying to do all this change politics you're you're absolutely right bill let's start by make amends with your family that since 2016 you're not able to have thanksgiving anymore because they've got what the wrong opinion like one's a turf oh no or one's work oh no actually maybe try men that first worry about politics no yeah second it does here's the issue though uh jenkuger had a masterful tweet today and many people listening may be gasping or spitting out their water having heard me say that

he said that i'll paraphrase the right is willing to accept anyone who agrees so much as 5% with them, whereas the left will excise anyone who disagrees with 0.05% of their position. And he's completely correct. The Young Turks are getting, have been relentlessly slammed because Anna Kasparian said, don't call me a birthing person. I bring this up because you're talking about, you know, many that divide and everything. but I gotta tell you, man, I think a lot of people who listen have tried to be that reasonable person talking to someone who is woke or in the cult, and saying something as

simple as like, well, let's talk about it, and they just get angry and say no. Yeah, you gotta make them the center of attention. It's kind of like you gotta let them be selfish for a moment. A lot of people in the cult... Not just a moment, it can take years. But it's... It can take years. But it's... The issue is...

And it's worth it. If you have a relative who is a TERF, you know, that's what they call a trans-exclusionary radical feminist. I want to point this out,

by the way. They call anyone who is, like, against gender ideology a TERF, even if they're not feminists. Like, I gotta tell you guys, these conservative women

are not feminists, okay? So don't call them that. But I call them something else. But my point is this. I guarantee you 100% if you sit down with someone who is described as a TERF, they're going to have a conversation with you about what they think and why they think it. If you sit down with someone who we would describe as woke, 95% the time, they will get emotional, angry and reject the argument outright or just refuse to sit down with you at all. In those situations, I find if you can stay calm, it's kind of like it erodes their anger. It takes time and patience. But if

someone's freaking out and you stay calm, the entire it's contagious. No, it makes them really angry, actually. At first, maybe. Well, this is like a common well-known thing in debate, that if your opponent is getting flustered and you lower your tone and get more calm, it actually inverts and makes them angrier. But the assumption you're making is that the conversation you're having is about the politics or about the philosophy. What about actually trying to regain, remember all those other things that we have in common? And maybe just let's not talk about politics for a couple of years. Let's just remember there are more important things than politics. Important as politics are, important as these issues are, on a family level, okay, let's talk about football. Let's talk about some of those deeper things. Well, let me give you a scenario then and ask you your thoughts on this. I brought this up a couple of weeks ago when I was

hanging out in a poker room and the guy on my left, we're playing a table, it's a nine player game. Funny guy. We are laughing, having a good time. Whenever you play at these tables, your side of the tables are whispering to each other, the other side's whispering. And we got this guy who is bluffing like crazy. So the dude to my left starts making some jokes. I'm laughing with him. He's nudging me and saying, look what he's doing. And we're ha ha ha ha ha. Then politics comes up because of the economy. Naturally, when you're playing a game that involves money. And it got to the point where he said that he thought the January 6th defendants should all be executed for treason. And I'm like, OK, here's a guy who is laughing with me. We're having a good time,

man. We're, we're almost friends. And then he says something as terrifying as that. How am I supposed to like, I'll be honest. This guy was telling me a story about a dude who was criminally charged because Antifa surrounded his car. He fled and then got charged with attempted murder because he hit people as he was fleeing. And so I was like, you should put me in touch with this guy. Like, let's talk. And he goes, yeah, it's BS what they did to this guy. And I'm like, oh, okay, so me and this guy got something to agree on, and maybe we can solve these issues.

And I will say the majority of our interaction was not political at all. The moment he said he wanted, he believed that they should execute these guys i'm like i don't think so in that scenario you don't have you're not going to actually achieve anything by talking about which is why i tried to persuade him so what you can just do is ask them loads of questions try and work out why it is that he's come to that conclusion and maybe in asking the questions that he hasn't been asked by anyone because he hasn't met someone with different political positions or different opinions he might go home and be like you know what maybe i was a bit wrong on that you don't have to you don't have to persuade him in the moment just asking the questions because by the way it's also interesting like an extremist like

that like how do you come to that that's quite interesting and this and this is this is like a regular guy i think he said he worked construction who Who's playing a game of poker, having a laugh on his day off. And then all of a sudden he says something as extreme as that. And that was like, to me. He's probably just regurgitating it from, you know, his circle. He got angry. This is the thing. He got so angry about it is why I was just like, okay.

I'm going to leave this guy be because, you know i i asked him when he said that i was like really executed wow he said it in a different way i'll mind you he said it in a very very gruesome and graphic way to put it simply and uh my response was uh did you hear about what happened on may 29th with the the the leftist at the white house and he goes no i don't think about that and i was like they they set saint john's church on fire and they you know the trump was forced in a bunker he goes i don't know what you that. And I was like, they set St. John's Church on fire, and Trump was forced into a bunker. He goes, I don't know what you're talking about. These people, I'm telling you, they were traitors.

And I'm just like, I'm done. I'm not going to. I mean, he's a big. He responded well, because now, a month later, it might be in his brain. And he'll have to deal with that. Sure, there'll be cognitive dissidence. And he might have to do that unpacking by himself.

And it might be quite painful for that fellow to do that unpacking. But you might have planted be quite painful for that fellow to do that unpacking. But you might have planted the seed. I think that's the correct way to deal with it. Or you double down on his extremism, go even further, and make him realize, well, who's the plant? Maybe we should treat their children just like Barack Obama treated the children in the Middle East and bombed them during their weddings. There actually is a technique. So that is a persuasion technique I have talked about before. It's called rapport extreme turn, where in order to change someone's mind, you have

to approach them from further than their own position. So it's, it's, it's a really basic manipulation technique. The general idea is for the first thing, if someone presents to you an idea that you disagree with, the first thing is rapport. You completely agree with it. Now, in their minds, this lowers their defenses and they feel like you're part of their same tribe. The second is the extreme. Like Luke said, you double down and go further

than they would find reasonable, forcing them in the other direction. Yeah, it shows them where they may end up if they stay on the path of extremism. You're like, okay, I see what you mean. Or just how ridiculous it is or just question their original stance it's actually much simpler than that you make yourself their ideological opponent

in the other direction which forces them in your direction you know i have friends that say kind of stuff like you're that guy you're talking about tim just weird extreme things about racism like friends from over the years and i realize like i can handle it in a conversation and you can easily ask questions and get past it and find out the psychology. But when people post those things on social media in text, they get ripped out of context and haunt the person for their entire life. It's not the medium. The texts, social media, absolutely not the medium. If you can avoid doing it, I think it has to be the best face to face.

But even a phone call is better. You just there's so much in tone. You lose friends by text if you have those conversations. I've actually written off talking about politics in text. That's a wise principle to have, I think. It's helpful. Well, it's similar to how if you're walking down the street in New York City and you see people handing out propaganda

or just crazy people mouthing off. People will just walk by crazy people in New York City. They wouldn't ask them to get banned from the street corner necessarily, but if you see a social media post, you go completely insane. I'll tell you another story. I think Luke was actually there.

I think you were. I'm not sure. We were in New York during a Stop Fascism protest. You were probably there because you're at everything. You're yeah you're at everything i'm at and i'm at everything you're at uh it was a it was it was called like refuse fascism or something like this it's an organization associated with revcom revolutionary communists and so i see this woman i'm just out there filming and i'm like just seeing what's up i came out i think this might have been like 2017 or 2018 i see this woman holding a sign that says,

stop fascism or whatever. And I'm filming. So I say, ma'am, is it all right if I'm doing a live stream? Is it okay if I ask you some questions? And she's like, yes, of course. And I was like, do you want to just explain, you know, why you came out today and what your sign means? And then she's like, yes, you know,

I think blah, blah, blah. And she explains all this stuff. And then I said, you know, I forgot how I said it, but I was very much just like some of the activists here that have organized this are with an organization called RevCom. I'm curious if you were here just for stop fascism or refuse fascism, or if you actually came out with the revolutionary communist party. And she snapped, started screaming at me, calling me Fox News. But what I said was a legitimate question that was true. Revcom was there. They were the ones that gave her the sign. She was waving their sign.

And when I simply asked her, I was like, did you come out here in support of them? Or is it just about fascism? She snapped and started screaming and totally shut down. No more logical discussion. I couldn't even get a regular question at that point. So there are people who are like, I don't know what it is, you know? And I was just like, I'm sorry for asking. It is best to start with your family, people that you have something in contact with. It's kind of like training a muscle. I think you mentioned that earlier, Bill.

It's like a skill you need to have to succeed in life is to be able to ask questions, to probe things you disagree with and genuinely listen to that empathize with people um well because the moment you have to disattach from an outcome of changing their mind exactly because if you want to do that then people can sense it and even if they want to agree with you they won't agree with you if they feel like you're trying to pressure them into thinking what they might double down if they want to agree with you, they won't agree with you if they feel like you're trying to pressure them into thinking what they think. In fact, they might double down if they feel pressured.

That's what happened to Kanye. He wanted to double down because he's fed up with everyone telling him you can't think that. So this is the issue with the basic manipulation, right? I've talked about this a lot over the years because I used to hang out at hackerspaces. Social engineering is like a principal subset of the hacker community, of hacker, of I don't know, whatever you'd call it. Whenever you hear about a big story about someone getting hacked, it's usually social engineering, the manipulation of a human being into giving up access or information or something like that. And in that, you learn a lot about this stuff. Here's the challenge I find.

Knowing how to manipulate someone's position, I find to be the dark side. those techniques on regular people, and that's why it's so difficult. Hence why you see things like with Kyle Rittenhouse, for instance, the media lies. The Covington kids, the media lies. Jesse Smollett, they lie. We hear, I always look at it like this. We've decided to play a game of Monopoly, the left and the right. And we are watching the left pull bills out of the bank. And they just keep saying, what are you going to do about it? And we're like, guess I'll just keep playing. Can't understand why I keep losing, though.

That's the challenge. You know, there's different modes for it, right? Because there's the dinner table where you should go into the conversation thinking, I might actually learn something. They might be right about something that I'm wrong about, which, by the way, for the dinner table is an important presence coming. And then there's the political level. And I don't think it's right to conflate the two because you should have a different mindset

going into both. Agreed. Agreed. Yeah. So you think that game theory, playing it out, you know, good faith and bad faith, bad faith will eventually stomp over the good faith. I mean, I don't know if it's absolute, but I'll put it this way. If if you're going to go if you and Ian were going to race a foot race, you know, 100 meter sprint or something. And Ian's wearing rollerblades.

Are you going to be be like i might be able to win this one i mean honestly i don't know you might be able to yeah you haven't seen me rollerblade yeah and and let's say he's got like 30 years and he's and he's got 100 millimeter wheels so they're real big real fast i played hockey i would kill you in rollerblades okay you're like let's race and he's riding a bike you're like okay like how am i supposed to win this if you're riding a bike and i'm running and I'm trying to be honest and you're cheating. I think if people know that they're being cheated or that they're using some dark energy to convince them, then they will revolt and embrace the light side.

But if they don't know, that's when the dark will overcome the light. Then maybe the simple thing is not to argue with people about their political perspective, but to show them an instance where the media lied. And that's just about it. Meaning, so you can ask them, be like, oh yeah, tell me about that. No, I genuinely want to hear more. And then when they say something that you know to be factually false, you can say something like, oh, wasn't, no, I heard about that one. Pull it up on your phone and be like, I think that's not, no, I think that one wasn't true and show them. And be proactive. Don't wait, because I had a conversation with my mom about Robert F. Kennedy

Jr., who she loves and has always loved. And I was like, really early on, I said, get ready. Watch what the media is going to do. Because I saw two articles where they said anti-vax, right? She's like, yeah, yeah. But if I'd waited six months to have that conversation, she'd already be indoctrinated by that media. So I was able to kind of cut it off at the turn. Preempt it. Yeah. Like, get ready that you might see some subterfuge coming. Maybe it's as simple as just like when you're at the dinner table, you're going to be like, I don't want to argue. You're probably right about a whole bunch of stuff.

Can I just show you this one thing? And then show them where the media lied in a modern instance about something significant. And then be like, I'm not here to tell you what to think, what to believe. I just want you to see this. The crazy thing is the left accuses the media of lying all the time.

But for some reason, they march in lockstep with these narratives. Because this is the challenge, I think. That's why I call it a cult. How do you break someone from a cult? Here's the real challenge I think we have. The reason why they're likely not going to care about your arguments, we're approaching this, and I think this is unfortunate, but we approach this from our personal biases, which is, you know, we think we can have a reason discussion with someone. Perhaps planting the seed of an idea may change their mind, but what's being omitted from that concept, that conversation, is that these people are seeking only likes and retweets. That's it. They don't care about whether or not they're proving something to

be true or solving a problem. They care if they get social gratification. Again, you are now in the Twitter medium, right? And that is like social media, as we discussed. All of these different scenarios demand different behavioral approaches. What I mean though is, it's not, I'm using social media

as the vehicle to explain. The average person who sits down, like let's say you sit down with your family members. There's a reason why they hold these views. It's because you are the summation of the five people you surround yourself with. They're not going to want to agree with you. They will reject what you say because in three hours, they will once again be surrounded by cult members who will reinforce all of their thinking, and they will reject what you said. The challenge is how do you get someone out of a cult? Add a top layer to that. Their phones keep them connected

to the cult 24-7. What do you do? I think that the likes and shares is kind of an empty purpose. It's definitely there's a, you know, there's some there's something to getting rich, but being being listened to is, I think, more fulfilling than getting 100 likes. So that's why verbalizing and listening is so important with family and friends. I do think it's it's I think there are a lot of regular people who believe false things and they're not woke. Right. This is a thing, too. I will say fair point to Winston in that a lot of the context of what I'm talking about specifically refers to people who are politically initiated. But there are a lot of people who I would refer to as uninitiated who believe what we it's what Andrew Breitbart called default liberal who will be willing to listen to things even if they're a little hostile at first because it

sounds foreign to them, but eventually will be like, you know, you were right about that. You know, that is to say the left wins a lot because regular people who don't pay attention will just vote their way because they don't pay attention. And if we do speak to many of these people and we are calm and reasonable, we may end up finding that maybe it's only 10, 20 or 30% of these people aren't actually indoctrinated, aren't actually woke. They just don't know anything at all. Absolutely. I think that's, in fact, that would have been the case for me. I can think of examples in my history where I just had default normie positions without having really thought about them. And then when someone challenged me and I actually thought about it, that's when I changed

my mind. I think you're absolutely right. People go along with it. Yeah. I wonder if we had that moment with, for those who saw the members segment when I was ranting about Ukraine with Dr. Peter Boghossian, I'll just say, man, the war stuff triggers me. That's if, like, the one thing that takes me from calm to like cranked up to 11

is people trying to justify foreign intervention in war and all that stuff. They'll use it against you. Or just blowing people up and murdering innocent human beings. That is the epitome of absolute, just immoral wrong

on this earth. There's nothing that gets me angrier than people who support, say like, you want to trigger me? Come up to me and ignorantly

try to justify the war in Ukraine without knowing anything about it. And I'm just going to be like, you're out of your mind. Do you ever use other tactics to manipulate them? I know it sounds cold, but like,

I'll just have a straightforward argument. And if they don't, like, you know, when I used to do the nonprofit fundraising, it was all pure manipulation. They train you to manipulate, they tell you to manipulate. And then eventually it's just like, this is not good. Like going out and convincing people to be part of a cause by tricking them is not a good thing.

And I don't want to be part of that. Sorry, here's a question. So if you're saying that you should not be able to be pro-war in Ukraine or whichever war without being knowledgeable about it, do you also think that you should not be able to be anti-war in Ukraine without being knowledgeable about it? So anti-war, it's okay to not be knowledgeable? Yes. Okay. Yes. Simply put, if you're saying, hey, I would like to blow up this far away land. It's like, well, look, I got to be honest. I don't know anything about that. So I'm going to err on the side of we shouldn't blow people up. How about that? Innocent until proven guilty. Yeah. If you can't provide me with a justification for why you're blowing people up, I'm not going to agree with you on it. But I mean, look, people who watch the show know me.

They call me Milk Toast Fence Sitter as kind of like, and the origin of that is someone commented on a video calling me that, and I totally went with it. I was like, yes, absolutely. Because there's too much I don't know. So I'm not going to come out and be like, this is definitively true. It's like, well, honestly, I don't know. I mean, if I see a video of it happening, I'll be more inclined to believe it and say, look there's a video of this democrat guy attacking people he was criminally charged for doing it stands to reason it's likely true but for all i know is a guy wearing a mask i don't know you know pretending to be him i really doubt it though you know occam's razor suggests this dude was attacking people but i'm not i'm not gonna just come out and be like everyone else said it's true.

Therefore, it is. Yeah, there's so much media manipulation. It seems like our goal, our job, I can't speak for everyone, but it's to keep people calm, is to create a spiritual realm that we can all coexist in. Maybe it's just mine.

I don't know. You have a great opportunity. You bring information to people. That I appreciate. I like to make people calm while they learn the information, but I'm less focused on the actual information more on how you feel when you learn it. Well, a lot of people are being hoodwinked. They're being conned. There's so much emotional manipulation. There's so many psyops. And I wish people would just realize your neighbor is not your enemy. The Republican down the street is not trying to hurt you or kill you, but they have convinced

so many human beings that the person opposite of you living next to you or might believe something politically is somehow your greatest danger to your existence. That's not true. And I think it's solely done on purpose so we don't realize who is or what is the purpose and the reason why people are suffering and dealing with so much pain and grief and pain and suffering in their life. And when you truly do kind of look at it, I think one of the biggest solutions is just being the best version of yourself, being personally responsible, being happy and being

healthy. And I think doing those things is a modern day act of resistance against our modern system and modern society, which thrives off of negativity and hatred and bigotry and just ignorance. And I think the more we strive to be better, the more we inspire try to make yourself an individual who doesn't buy into the psyops doesn't buy the bullcrap doesn't give your money to those evil beings those evil creatures those entities and demons that of course thrive off of screwing you over and i and i think if we really kind of self-reflect more that would be a lot better than just being like you do what i want you to do and i think we need more of that. And I had it to you, Luke, man. You put your money where your mouth is because that event today, that gathering was incredible. There's a power of meeting with other like-minded individuals,

just like the event that you guys are putting on tomorrow and Bill, you're putting on Saturday. There's a power with individuals coming together. There's an energy there. There's a frequency there. And we could get all hippy-dippy about it. This is why. But there's a congruence. There is a combining of those energies that is very powerful.

This is why we are starting where we are launching a coffee shop. It's going to be in West Virginia. The plans have already been drawn up. The contractor has been contracted and we're preparing plumbing and all that stuff. The idea that we had was you want to solve these problems. A lot of ways you can do it. You can have a family, you can have kids, you can get away from cities, homeschool your kids, all that good stuff. That's a powerful thing you can do right now. And don't forget, don't buy Bud Light or Anheuser-Busch products. Now, the other thing we're doing, I hope my vision in five years, 50 coffee shops around the United States in semi-urban, maybe suburban areas, cast brew coffee. When you

walk in the front door and you walk up to the counter to buy coffee, there's a little seating area and there's a TV with Steven Crowder playing on it. There's a TV with Viva and Barnes, with 6X and Hammer, with TimCast IRL, with We Are Change. And people will walk in and they'll be sitting down and they'll be seeing their coffee and they'll be looking up and they'll just pass before you'd be watching these shows. We do that. We launch a thousand of these coffee shops. We start franchising them and then we put our perspectives in shopping centers. The other component is to start. Once we get this one up and running, the first thing I'm going to do is investigate franchising because that's probably the fastest and easiest way to

make these things exist everywhere. I don't need to be the CEO of a massive multinational corporation of coffee shops. I want coffee shops to exist where like-minded individuals can come, get together, and have a cup of coffee, and we can guarantee the expansion of ideas like ours or Crowder's or Luke's, etc., and all of the minds creators who are coming to the event, etc., people like that. No, it's amazing that you're starting a coffee shop because coffee shops, there's actually research around this, led to the age of enlightenment.

Boom. I mean, not even joking. Yeah, no, it's true. There's empirical research that people come together in coffee houses and this is like the breeding grounds of creativity. And what we'll do is, we'll buy the building next door

and then we'll make Rutkowski's burrito shop. And enema. Burrito shop and enema. The coffee for your butt and the coffee for your mouth that'll be down the street sorry just actually the research real quick okay the the second and third floor of the building are our social club so the second floor is going to be a basic social hangout and the third floor is going to be our members only social club we're probably going to film poker with the boys in this building on the third floor where our top tiertier members are able to actually hang out. The show is mostly just a table talk podcast, meaning you get a handful of people to hang out and all talk about these issues

and poker is a backdrop to make it something more fun. But then we are going to have people come from all over to hang out, to meet each other, to share ideas. And the goal is to build a community, strengthen bonds between people, learn who our neighbors are, share our moral values, and win a culture war. Pierogies, not tacos. Zooming out a little bit, and this is a conversation I've been having in Britain with friends and like-minded people. If the institutions, the corporations are all captured as we believe they are by various ideologies, the response is that we need to build our own industries, our own infrastructure, our own, as you describe, businesses like this that are widespread. That is actually a great way of defeating the ideological capture of so many industries.

Yep. I'm really excited for the idea. Look, if we launch franchises, which I expect we will, imagine this. Not only will we carry our coffee brand, but there's a whole bunch. We'll have Jeremy's chocolate.

So for our chocolate bars on the counter, for our impulse buys, we'll get Jeremy Boring's chocolate brand. If we get a liquor license for upstairs, we'll have the conservative boring's uh you know chocolate brand if we get a liquor license for upstairs we'll have the conservative dad's you know uh ultra right or whatever i have a cigar business boom winston cigars yeah we're called 1573 which is the year that tobacco first came to britain might we stock you yes yeah fantastic we'll we'll have because especially if we're doing a social club i don't know if we can actually allow people to smoke in the building you can get licenses.

We'll talk later. We'll figure it out. I also have some cigars. I like cigars. My man. So when we were talking about doing poker with the boys, obviously everyone asked, can we smoke cigars? And I'm like, I think the challenge is like,

can you smoke indoors and stuff? But having a bunch of people sitting around playing a game of poker and smack talking, and I'll stress this too. The idea for the show isn't actually about poker. It's to have a table with eight or nine people who are all talking about various issues with poker as kind of the through line for everybody. So you'll see some table action and some ribbing on each other. You have to be able to multitask.

But you'll get the periodic, you know, like I was mentioning that guy who was talking about January 6th to me at the poker table that stuff happens and these are really interesting conversations when you get random people who don't know each other start talking about this stuff that'll be fascinating but then you know they'll light a cigar up you burn sticks the problem you might have though is that it's so ideologically in one way that that you need to attract the people who think differently how are we going to do that it's a game of poker but if you've got crowder on the telly oh you mean the coffee shops yeah you got this is this is the point it's the trojan horse the average person the normie doesn't know or care about crowder and so they go to their local shopping center where they're picking up dog food and they're like i'm gonna grab a nice

coffee before i go home and they go uh oh there's a coffee shop right there and they walk in and they're like i'll do a large iced coffee uh there. And they walk in and they're like, I'll do a large iced coffee with half and half. And they're waiting and they look over and there's the TV and they're just watching. And then they see Crowder being like, can you believe the Democrats are doing this thing again? And they're just like, huh, how about that? I don't know about that. Businesses have always been solving problems that governments have created. So I do understand the business aspect here.

I'm working on a vitamin business. I'm working on a buck coffee business. I'm also trying to get a pierogi beef liver business up and going. If anyone's in the pierogi beef liver industry, hit me up, please. But I do believe private enterprises can solve the problems that a lot of governments do create. Regarding the Age of Enlightenment, the induction of coffee into the consciousness really did not only stimulate, but change the way people communicated, but it was also, they stopped drinking as much beer.

They stopped drinking as much Anheuser Busch products and started drinking coffee. I'm joking. They just stopped drinking alcohol as much. It used to be because the water was often contaminated. They would drink beer all day and it was just a dark age. But then. Yeah.

Look into the Steven Johnson research on coffee. He's, he's the man on it. Coffee's great. Hey, we're going to go to Super Chat, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button,

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Jeremy Dobler says, Nefarious movie opens this weekend. We need to support this film. Yeah, have you guys heard of this film, Nefarious? No. No. It's, uh,

was it Steve Deese? Is that who? Oh, my gosh, Steve. Prayers for Steve Deese. He had an infection a couple of days ago. His wife was tweeting about his health. That's right. But hopefully he's doing good now.

Uh, so Steve's movie's coming out. That, that was his movie, right? I'm not, I want to make sure I'm getting this right. What's the premise? It's a horror film. Let me make sure I have this right. I'm sure everyone in the chat is already saying, yes, it's Steve Deese. Steve Deese.

Yeah. Nice work, Steve. I'm pretty sure i'm correct on that one i feel bad because we literally had him on the show and he brought a screener and i'm like make sure i'm not getting this wrong all right sa federali says bill and ian's constant push for open source is truly classically liberal civil libertarianism keep pushing spiral out also bill's idea of paying us all back for AI training data instead of UBI is absolutely godly. Yeah, Bill suggested, this is on Joe Rogan's podcast again, that a form of UBI that's paid through the corporations that use your data.

I thought it was genius. I mean, rev share, pay creators, let's do it. I mean, people should not, it's very tempting to use GPT-4, but they should be paying people if they're using your data. All right, let's see what we got. John Hutto says, there are two sets of documents.

The Discord are legit. The Telegram are modified. Interesting. Is that what they're saying? That someone took them and modified them? Well, if that's the case, then maybe we are incorrect and we'll have to follow up on that one.

All right. Norils chukowski says hey tim charles hoskinson said he would come on timcast irl if sent the invite let's make that happen i kind of feel like we invited him a long time ago who's he is he the ethereum guy cardano card he was involved in it right right right right right yes uh we'll uh we'll follow up on that one. All right. Where are we at? Mr. Grizzly Bear says, bomb threats have occurred at most AB locations

with screaming matches between workers and managers. Workers are walking out due to safety concerns, but we are told it's not credible and to continue operations like normal. Whoa. Do you work at Anheuser-Busch? Is that what you're saying? All you got to do is not buy the product.

Barney Boyle says, Did you see the Red Bull hot air balloon skate park? No, what is that? Did they float a skate park into the air and then skate on it? I hope so. That sounds bad. Is that what it is? Someone want to Google that?

Sure sounds Red Bull. All right. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, it goes like this. The more I learn about our government, the more I realize how dirty, corrupt, and manipulative our U.S. government is. A realization I wasn't expecting from my normie days. Eyes wide open.

Yeah, Red Bull put skate park 2,000 feet in the sky. Wow. It's a floating skate park. A floating skate park. This is news from 14 hours ago. Oh, I'll have to check that one out. That sounds pretty good. There's images of it and pretty good and stuff cool all right what do we got let's see david mulliner uh what does it say mulliner rollo says my god you will you guys will fall for anything you really think russia has only

lost 17 000 troops they lose that much in less than a month. I would just say the exact same thing back to you. Do you really think they lost 200,000 troops? That's a huge amount of people. Like, we don't know. We literally don't know. The U.S. is going to say it's huge. Russia's going to say it's low. Pick your poison. I

doubt either side is going to be factual on this one. Alright, let's see. OMG Puppy says Bellingcat is associated with MI6. I doubt either side is going to be factual on this one. All right. Let's see. OMG Puppy says Bellingcat is associated with MI6. Wow. Asiri Design says, why does a 21-year-old have that security clearance? Hmm. Good question.

Good question. Yeah. All right. What do we got here? Lori Dowell says, Chris Martinson behind his $10 paywall showed the logistics paperwork. Tim should also find and post, Ukraine is within days of running out of all kinds of equipment

and necessary war materials. I heard that, but I also heard that the data was actually quite old. So it may be a few months, you know, different. All right, let's see what we got here. Aurora Isabella says,, love Ian's jacket. It looks so comfy. Tim bought this for me.

Thank you very much. We were at the mall and I was like, that looks like Ian. And you were right. And then I was like, I'm going to buy one. I want one. I'll give you the company, man. I'll get like a different color that's a little bit more. Oh my gosh.

It's so warm. I don't dry it either. I just wash it and hang it up to dry. Keep it fluffy fluffy russell hatton says tim it's not only a strategic marketing strategy it's only a matter of time until people's pronouns are bud light and identify as a beer can i think you're right actually yeah we were talking earlier and someone said like i wonder what dating is going to be like like for my kids and i was like they're going to go on a dating app and they're going to meet a carrot and they're going to meet in person and find out it's a human and be like, dude, you told me you were a carrot. Like you, you, you carrot fish to me. This is,

this is BS. And it's a joke. But like, what I mean to say is online, you can be anything. And so people are going to be like, I'm a beer can, or like, I'm a fish. And then you're going to meet him. It's like, you're a person, you know what I mean? Like you lied. And they're going to be like, I don't tell me that I identify my pronouns are beer can so there you go mitch the engineer says as someone personally familiar with the dairy explosion it was a freak accident caused by automated machinery with an electrical short coupled with a methane buildup during a slurry clean out of the milking parlor wow wow man even centralizing cows is dangerous the same thing can happen with wheat and wheat silos because there's like a gas that builds up well that's the other

thing too like you see those bales of hay those things burst into flames like relatively often i guess what happens is when they when they bunch it all together it starts breaking down inside releasing flammable gases and then it gets really really hot because it's super packed, and then it reaches ignition, and then when the whole thing goes up. Correct, yeah. Yeah, they do this thing, I guess, where they stick a crowbar or something inside it to aerate it. Yeah, and test the temperature, but sometimes they burn them on purpose. I don't know. Yeah.

All right. David Molinarolo says carbon dioxide makes up 0.04% of the atmosphere, up from 0.03. If it drops to 0.02, plant life starts dying off. There is no climate crisis period. Methane, I know, is part of it, too. And water vapor. Yeah. Super503 Dank says, what's stopping them from sending useless eaters to war?

I think that's what they do. People like us. That's what they did. I mean, it's people like you. You know, people that speak up. All right. Kevin Corbott says, fact check. Scheinerbach is not owned by AB InBev.

Was I wrong about that one? I thought that was on their website. What's, uh, I'm going to check real quick. That's important. Anheuser. Anheuser-Busch products. What do we have have here favorite beer while tim's looking that up winston i'm sober i'm still fun though i haven't touched beer in a year and a half i think i had half one a while ago i can't the cans there's too much 12 16 ounces is too much i think they should sell six ounces this is my first beer in like six months, and I only want half. Yeah. Boo. With no tolerance, half a beer is enough for me.

Plus I'm 130 pounds. Is there anything that... You drink, bro? Come on. Is there anything that Anheuser-Busch could do to redeem themselves? They could do an apology, in my opinion, that gets more views than the ad that caused the uproar. If they can do that somehow, if they can create a viral campaign for an apology... viral campaign of course they could it would be easy they would just have to invert the whole thing and i don't know what do you mean i don't know maybe just come out with a can with something

hilarious on it that mocks the whole situation or or just go at the other side find oh wow find a figure on the x is ab find a figure wiser cas castle corona harbin hogarten jupiter leffy blonde michelob ultra modello quillness skull stella maybe what if they put they should put blair white on the yeah or the dalai lama that's what luke that's what i mean that he did earlier. Have you talked about that yet? Not really. Not on the show. For reference, Dalai Lama was hanging out with this kid. There's a video of it.

He's forehead to forehead and then he puts his tongue out and he's encouraging the kid to suck his tongue. It's so weird. It is freakish. It looked like a gorilla with a little monkey playing, but it was still very weird let's call it what it is pedophilia

I'm down with that man it's disgusting there's no play rationalization there's no silly tongue sucking that was the rationalization playfully...

Yeah, playfully. Oh, I'm sorry. I said Shinerbock. I meant Shocktop. Shocktop, not Shinerbock. Shocktop. I confused that because they share letters.

Apologies for that. It's Shocktop. All right. You were correct, Kevin Corbett. I apologize for that. I wanted to make sure. Tim really dug that one out. That's journalistic integrity right there.

Well, I don't... I mean, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. E. Smith says, Shiner Bock is not owned by Ann Bush. Thank God. You are correct. I was drinking one right now or something. He's like, oh, no. They're sitting there drinking it like, no.

Sparky says, Youngling Beer is American owned and brewed. Their Golden Pilsner is first rate. Its head guy was an early adopter of anti-wokeness. I mean, my issue is like, I don't care if beer is doing a pride flag stuff. I really don't care about that. I care that Dylan Mulvaney targets children. Like, I'm telling people like,

could you imagine if they hired Mr. Beast and he comes out with a pack of Marlboro Reds and he's like, hey kids, light them up. They're great. I'd be like, what are you doing? Like, no, don't do that. So Dylan Mulvaney's audience is a bunch of kids. They're promoting drinking alcohol to kids among the other like ridiculous stuff that Dylan Mulvaney does. But like, it's more than just

like, you know, Joe Rogan came out and said, oh, who cares if they're trying to get more people to drink their beer? Why are you so mad about it? And it's like, yo, I don't care that Miller Coors did a pride flag thing. I don't care that Yingling did a pride flag thing. I care that Dylan Mulvaney is a deranged sociopath who mocks and insults women and trans people and is trying to sell beer to children. He's willing to take money to influence young children to destroy their liver and brain. That's messed up. This is another classic trick that is played in conversation over the trans issue is people go, why do you care? It's only 0.0001% of the population.

No, actually, it's not. It affects all women, so that's 50% of the population. You've got to protect women. If people with penises, i.e. men, are in women's spaces, women are not safe. If you have a mother or a sister or any female friend i.e everyone it should be of your concern and in my country we the state we've been paying and our taxes have been going to the state and has been as has been revealed with the tavistock clinic and gids we state funded have been giving kids irreversible sex hormone uh sex hormone uh hormones for the

change to change sex as well as puberty uh blockers this is a serious issue that should worry everyone it's total bullshit anyone who says why do you care it's a niche thing no it affects everyone absolutely we'll talk more about that in the member segment for sure all right let's see we got here c stallion says the end of the world is just the beginning affects everyone. Absolutely. We'll talk more about that in the member segment, for sure. All right, let's see what we got here. C. Stallion says, the end of the world is just the beginning,

mapping the collapse of globalization by Peter Zaihan. Gosh, we should have him on someday. Are you guys familiar with Zaihan? No.

I heard mixed feelings about him. I heard people be very unhappy with him and other people rave and rant about him. Some stuff's wrong, but I like that.

He's got a killer ponytail. Toy Painter 1 says, my daughter, son-in-law and grandkids cut off all contact with us in June of 21 because we didn't get the jab. There is no uniting this country. Have faith. No, but I agree. There's no uniting this country. I do think that there are people who are initiated

that don't know better that you can probably talk to. That's true. But I think some of these people are just... Yeah. How do you stop people from voting for a Democrat who is attacking people in their cars? You don't. There's no way around that. Give them a better option.

Well, you got RFK running as a Democrat. Or you can vote for Marianne Williamson, and I mean that sincerely. Marianne Williamson is loads better than Biden or anyone else the Democrats have to offer. And that's why they attacked her

so ruthlessly. This poor woman, you know, she's like, she's this lovey-dovey like self-help person. She's into consciousness and meditation.

And then they started calling her the woo-woo crystal lady and she's like, why are they insulting me? And I'm like, oh, you poor naive, you know, summer spirit.

You didn't understand how evil and corrupt these people are when it comes to power and she genuinely thought she probably thought entering the race that you know the media was was real and journalists were honest and then all of a sudden they started just ripping her to shreds feel bad and then she had that moment where i think she was on tucker carlson or something like that where she said the right is so much nicer and the left is so mean and nasty and then she had to come out and be like no no i don't mean it so anyway look i wouldn't vote for a democrat that's that's that's the reality i don't care who it is but you know it is true they need you you need subversion

and alternatives would you vote for a democrat if it was tulsi gabbard um i? I don't know. Probably not. I supported her when she was running last time in the primaries, you know, and then she didn't win, obviously. But there's a bunch of things I disagree with her on. But she's come around a lot of things as well. And I think she is pretty good. The issue at this point is voting for a Democrat empowers the malignancy within the Democratic Party. So if she was an independent, you would be more likely to? Yeah, the issue is I'm not going to give a vote to the Democratic Party. It doesn't matter who's in charge. You've got too many, I would say 99.9% of the Democratic Party is as corrupt as corrupt can be.

I can say like maybe Ro Khanna is okay, but he's still kind of bad. And so that's the best the Democratic Party has to offer. The Republicans, like 87% bad. So that's like the only reason I consider voting Republican is because you have a new insurgent party, you know, MAGA, that's been taking over and the Freedom Caucus has actually gained

substantial power in Congress. So, I think it's worth it. Alright, what do we got? Bree Sullivan says, can you talk about the restrict act it's not getting talked about enough and it goes way beyond banning tiktok it'll control what you can post on social media yeah it basically it doesn't even name tiktok they give the commerce department and the secretary of Commerce authority to just pick which apps get banned. And there's fines for using VPNs. It's basically like they manipulated everyone into saying, oh, yeah, we have to ban TikTok. They're giving data to the Chinese. And then

they bring in this Patriot Act 2.0 type situation, which is, they manipulated people on TikTok. So like, don't, I mean, I think the cat's out of the bag that everyone who was concerned about TikTok knows not to support the Restrict Act at this point, but. What do you think about the tactic to force TikTok to free its software code to AGPL3 in order to exist in the United States? I mean, yeah, I don't know about forcing it.

I agree with that. But I'll clarify. It was actually proposed by members of Congress that they will have to release their code and how their algorithm functions and how their data collection functions if they want to persist in the United States. And I think that's a solution. if they if they then and they said oh we'll get back

to you on that if we can then see that they are actively trying to manipulate us and how they're doing it okay that actually gives us more of in our arsenal to ban them or shut them down or legislate how they should be acting and then if it's true there are stealing data and giving it to china which we we're pretty sure like we know they're doing it then we will see that before we just say you know what we've heard these stories so you're out we say okay here's your chance to prove you're not as bad as they said you are tiktok said no they were just like uh we'll we'll let you know so that's why i'm kind of like ban them it's we it's bad enough our social media is manipulative and evil i don't want china in here doing that stuff but the thing is google and facebook we

don't know that just because they're u.s based they could just as easily be sharing data with china it's well five eyes spy club they're all sharing data with each other so i think if we if we legislated that tiktok had to do it and free their software code that that would be that would be a sort of precedent to then force Google and Facebook to free their software code because they're functioning in the commons. You just can't, I don't think, specifically say only TikTok has to share their code. There would have to be something more universal. Foreign social networks that have over 100 million users per month or something? I mean, yeah, it would be kind of nice.

I don't know. i think it could be surgical tiktok is a foreign-owned corporation that we have concerns they're stealing data and manipulating people in this country propagandistic efforts so we isolate specifically so they they open it and then we see that it's just super invasive and then we have hard justification to escalate but if they release it and say okay we're willing to change these things and then we can hard justification to escalate. But if they release it and say, okay, we're willing to change these things, and then we can actually be like, you have to stop, this part of the code is bad,

this part of the code is bad, and this part of the code is bad. Get rid of those, and you can keep operating. The app cannot function without surveillance. The other option is we could take the code and build our American version. Shut down. Yeah, build the American version.

I just feel like the regulation would be better to do like an encrypt act and get everybody and 10 encrypted and also make the App Store much better labeled for the problem though is that I don't care about data like if you're concerned about your privacy stop using these things the problem is the algorithmic manipulation the problem is that if you, we're banned from TikTok. So, okay, so we're biased to a certain degree. We broke no rules. What rules, like, does this show break?

We don't get banned from YouTube. We don't break the rules. We're very, you know, on the level. TikTok banned us probably because the conversations we have, they don't want young people seeing. They want young people to get a psychotic message that breaks their brains. So I'm just like, TikTok is bad. Get rid of it. It's just not going to stop it.

It's going to enrage everybody. You're going to empower all the pro TikTok people to think that they're being rebellious by using a VPN and going and using TikTok anyway. Go for it. Well, I think that- Good luck getting a VPN and downloading the APK onto your Android phone because you can't get it on an iPhone anymore unless you jailbreak it. I don't care.

And I'll say this. Here's a simple solution. Rumble, launch a mobile app that has shorts. Rumble, I got pro skateboarders hitting me up. This is huge. That Rumble's gonna be doing pro skateboarding. I was surprised to hear they're doing the RNC.

They're doing gaming and they're doing pro skateboarding. I think Rumble's on track to win. Sounds like Chris Pavlovsky watches the show. Sounds like he's got him and the team know exactly what needs to happen to win a culture war. And the one thing I've talked about is that Rumble is too much of an echo chamber. The

first thing Rumble did was they went after those who are censored to build base. Now they're targeting general interest, which is the smartest thing they can be doing. And I'll also add all of our infrastructure is with Rumble. Our website, our after show and all that stuff. We're just, I don't guess, I guess legacy on YouTube for the time being. Have you guys with minds been investigating doing shorts? Yeah, vertical video is essential. Yeah. We, we, we have like a swipe feed story type vertical video feed on our mobile app and

yeah, kind of getting, going deeper into that is, is huge. Oh, here we go. Todd B says, Tim, did you see Stephen King's tweet about if men could get pregnant, there, there, uh, there would be backing for abortion. You can guess the response, but i will let it be a surprise i did see that and everyone called him a bigot and they were like how dare you transphobe etc well you're welcome on the show steven yeah good luck brian forsaken as the world crumbles says kyle rittenhouse bud can yep all right normies get out says the brewery is owned by the gambrenous company a family-owned company based in san antonio which also owns trumer brewery in berkeley california shiner is not owned by anheuser-busch i want to make sure

i stress that one because i i meant shock top not shiner bach you know is the shah ak sound that you know are the awesome that's what got me they It got me. I was wrong. I made a mistake. Made a mistake, guys. Don't be mad. All right. Nathan Sherwood says, Luke doesn't need alcohol because his brain has clearly already been destroyed. Slam.

Yeah, that's a good one. I can't remember what happened, but we were watching a movie or something. I think it was when we were watching, I can't remember what happened but we were watching a movie or something i think i think it was when we were watching i can't remember what it was but everyone in the room like some someone i think someone made a joke or i did and then luke immediately starts laughing and everyone else goes oh and i just thought it was hilarious that like you know me and luke have a similar sense of humor where it can be like offensive and raunchy and he just laughs the more offensive the more funnier it is. Let's just be honest. I might have brain damage, probably. True. From all that tear gas.

Too much red pill? Let's see. H Unstoppable says, Tucker Carlson was on a podcast and from what he said, these objects or beings most likely have been here a long time and they seem to be going in and out of water at high speeds. We don't see them in space as much as out of water yeah william cooper was also documenting that uh many many years ago in his

book behold the pale horse describing objects that he saw as a naval intelligence officer literally coming out of water like it was not breaking any kind of force field at all and moving extremely fast as underwater as it did in the sky so he was describing these things for a very long time and we have seen very similar reports from a lot of different individuals they're not they're not aliens they're admins and they are moving as fast as they can because they have no clipping turned on which means they are not interacting with matter they're moving just through it. Have you seen ball lightnings?

No. They actually, it's like a ball of lightning that moves through matter or through windows and stuff. What if we're in a simulation and what we think our aliens are literally just like, yeah, they're admins. Yeah. They're going around there. They're like correcting errors and they're like dealing with user problems.

And then the issue is a lot of people are like yeah so that the people obviously are going to say like i don't get any help from the admins yeah because we're all npcs like we are in the program as non-player characters and right now there's like you know maybe maybe 50 000 players or a few million players in a world of billions and they contact the admins for assistance, and they're listening to shows like this. Like when you play Fallout 3 and you got Three Dog, and he's on the radio in the post-apocalyptia.

I wonder if there's only a certain amount of bandwidth to have a certain amount of PCs at once, because some days I feel like an NPC, and I'll be like, what did I just do the last four hours? See? Ian, you exist to facilitate a video game for other people. We're all just NPCs.'re just we're just you know we are we are named NPCs like we're not like shopkeeper you know or like you know mechanic it's like we're NPCs with names so it's not much of an upgrade from a regular NPC we're all still NPCs but you know that's the simulation all right everybody if you haven't already would

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outlets, and YouTube. Right on, Bill. What's up, guys? Thanks for having me. You can find me at minds.com, M-I-N-D-S.com, or on the app stores, search Minds. And yeah, also we're reopening our equity crowdfunding. So if you want to own stock, be a part of it, wefunder.com slash minds.

And this Saturday. This Saturday, yes, MindsFest. We're going to be streaming live on Destiny's channel and having crazy, and on Mines.com. We're actually launching our first live streaming test. I mean, I'll say this too. Like if you do want to go, you probably should buy your tickets now because when we go live tomorrow,

our Timcast IRL is sold out. I guarantee you the moment we say tomorrow is Mines, the people who are already there are going to buy whatever's left. It's tickets.vulcanpresents.com. I'm going to be there. Ian's going to be there. Thank you guys so much for bringing it all together. It really means a lot. I want to shout out a person that said

that I should call my enema coffee business butt light. That might be a real thing. Thank you. My website is lukanfiltered.com. The members meetup today was awesome. I'm going to be doing another one in a few days in Miami. LukeUnfiltered.com and soon I'm going to have a

very big challenge ahead of me. I'm going to be confronting a very, very bad person. The Potato Man himself. Seamus Coughlin. I have agreed to his terms. There will be a debate and very strong intellectual fight that will happen between me and the Potato Man next week on We Are Change on YouTube. It's going will be a debate and very strong intellectual fights that will happen between me and the Potato Man

next week on We Are Change on YouTube. It's going to be a big one. It's going to be crazy. And I wanted to shout out, I'm Ian Crossland, if you don't know, someone that I met today

at Luke's Gathering that has a cross-state situation with his daughter, similar to the Jeff Younger case, I think. I don't know a lot about it, but I wanted to point you guys to a website,

www.rescuebex.com. He's asked for support and just to bring some awareness to this situation. So hopefully this will help. I had a great time today, you guys, everyone that was at the gathering. And Luke, again, thank you for inviting me. Winston, Bill, love you dudes.

Tim, great. Thanks, Tim. Right on. And of course, Serge is pressing the buttons. Yeah, what's up, guys? I'm Serge.com on Twitter. Come argue with me. We will see you all over at TimCast.com

in about 10 minutes. Thanks for hanging out. you