Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #764 Tucker Carlson WAS FIRED From FOX News, Bud REMOVES Another Exec w/Savanah Hernandez

Episode Date: April 25, 2023

Tim, Hannah Claire, Seamus, & Serge join Savanah Hernandez to discuss Tucker Carlson being fired by FOX, Don Lemon getting fired by CNN, Bud Light removing another marketing executive, and the collaps...e of Bud Light's sales. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Earlier today, we heard that Tucker Carlson is out at Fox News and that his last show was on Friday. We're getting new information that he was, in fact, fired unceremoniously without notification. I should say technically with notification. Apparently, they notified him 10 minutes before making the information public. So they just hit him up and said, you're out. Your show's done. You're not doing any more. Bye bye.
Starting point is 00:00:24 And it's shocking, Fox News basically just, I don't know, ended themselves, especially as it pertains to a younger demographic, because Fox News' aging demographic is, well, it's just that, they're aging. So they definitely needed to capture young people, and they've lost it. The news is that Murdoch himself pushed for Tucker Carlson to be removed. So we got a bunch of other shocking information, of course, on, I should say, I don't know, inversely. See, we're upset about the Tucker thing, but we're really excited for the Don Lemon thing. Don Lemon also got fired for apparently, this is great. I want to give a shout out to our good friend Vivek Ramaswamy. Apparently when Don Lemon started insulting him or, you know, arguing with him on air, that was the final straw for terminating Don Lemon from CNN. So he's gone. And then of course,
Starting point is 00:01:11 we have the second marketing executive removed from Anheuser-Busch placed on leave over the Dylan Mulvaney Bud Light boycott scenario. So this is getting big. We got news that apparently Bud Light sales down for the next week. Bud Light sales were down for the next week about 17% to 21%, depending on which metric you use, which is massive, and they're reeling from it. And I would say it's a bit worrisome. Dylan Mulvaney has not posted anything online in about three weeks. So I hope the people who care about Dylan are looking out for him and making sure everything's okay because it seems like this person is in desperate need of some family care or people to be there for them in this time.
Starting point is 00:01:51 I mean that sincerely because it's got to be super stressful. Not that I'm a fan of the work that Mulvaney does, but let's just try and be human for a minute and win a boycott while making sure that's as far as it goes, right? So before we get started, my friends, head over to castbrew.com and purchase our coffee to support our show. That's right. We've launched our own coffee brand. You can get Rise with Roberto Jr., our rooster, breakfast blend, and our Appalachian Nights Dark Roast, which are both available for pre-order right now, should be shipping out soon. By the latest, it's May 5th is when they'll be shipped to you.
Starting point is 00:02:27 And then we'll have them in regular stock. And we're going to even launch a subscription coffee service with new products rolling out probably every couple of weeks. Also, don't forget to go to timcast.com. Click that Join Us button. Become a member so you can hang out in our Discord server with like-minded individuals. And you'll get access to our uncensored members- show monday through thursday at 11 p.m and if you sign up at the 25 per month level
Starting point is 00:02:51 or you're a member for at least six months you can submit questions and potentially be one of our callers we take about four or five every night you can call into the show and actually ask us questions now before we uh uh, so, so let me slow down, smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight, one of several guests is of course, the lovely Savannah Hernandez. Thank you so much for having me, Tim. What's up guys. Savannah Hernandez here, reporter, political commentator, contributor for turning point USA. Very excited to be here. Right on. Thanks for hanging out. And of course, I mentioned we have a special
Starting point is 00:03:26 guest who has been patiently waiting. I am excited to announce to all of you that we have on the show tonight ladies and gentlemen, Seamus Coughlin. You're a bad friend. You're a bad, bad friend. What are you talking about? You brought me on this
Starting point is 00:03:42 show on my special day and you tease a special guest so people think it's Tucker Carlson. All the comments on Twitter are like, is Tucker going to be on? That's not fair. I was getting chats on my live stream earlier today where people were going,
Starting point is 00:03:58 they think Tucker is going to be on TimCast. What do you think about that? I am actually mad at Tucker. You're a dirty dog. I don't even hear your rationalizations. I said all last week, you are coming back. I was very excited. I said, guys, Seamus is coming back. He'll be back by Sunday. And then, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:14 we're getting ready for the show, and I'm going to be tweeting about Seamus here. And then 1.1 million tweets about Tucker Carlson. And I'm like, but my special guest is Seamus. That's right. He's my special guest. People aren't as excited as they should be.
Starting point is 00:04:27 No, they are. They're less excited about me than they would first. Like, it's just not fair to give people the expectation that Tucker's going to be on and have somebody even cooler. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:04:35 We love Tucker. But it was either going to be one of two things. Tim was like, you should just do your Tucker impression. I was like, I don't want people to think
Starting point is 00:04:42 I am playing into your shit games of making the audience think a much bigger guest is on. Shameless offer to do that. I said, quite frankly, to say Tucker Carlson isn't on or is on when he isn't is in fact offensive to your audience. And so I felt that it was very insulting. I just want the audience to know that I love and care for you all. And I think what Tim did to you and did to me tonight was just disgraceful,
Starting point is 00:05:05 was just disgraceful and hurtful. And I think you owe us an apology. What? For you? Ladies and gentlemen, I am terribly sorry. I brought Seamus Coghlan on the show. Thank you. That's all we asked for. We are all sorry that you did that. I just have to say. That's literally all I ask for is some accountability. Yeah. I will say this. People thought Tucker was on. Do you think Tim would have a big guest like that on and not spend the entire day promoting like,
Starting point is 00:05:28 guys, Tucker's going to be there. The only reason I hide the name is if I was ashamed. He would literally rename the podcast Tucker. Like it would just literally be his new name on YouTube. You name like Tucker's show, IRL. Thanks for hanging out, Seamus. Yeah, happy to be here. We also have Hannah Claire Brimelow.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Oh, hey, I'm Hannah Claire Brimelow oh hey I'm Hannah Claire Brimelow I'm a writer for Timcast.com I'm filling in for Ian tonight I'm sorry Tucker upstage your big moment guys this is a reunion
Starting point is 00:05:52 many people have been waiting for in all seriousness it's Rupert Murdoch's fault for doing this to Tucker that's why he did it that's why he did it he knew I was back
Starting point is 00:06:00 on Shimcast that I'm a threat to the establishment so they don't want my platform to continue to grow rumble.com slash shamer that's my podcast that's my podcast shamer yeah I was back on Shimcast that I'm a threat to the establishment so they don't want my platform to continue to grow. Rumble.com slash Shamer. That's my podcast.
Starting point is 00:06:08 That's my podcast, Shamer. We're bringing shame back. It rhymes with my name. What's up, guys? Let's do this. I will say real quick, though, we definitely reached out because we were like, now that Tucker's not doing the 8pm slot on Fox News, he is free up.
Starting point is 00:06:24 But I'm sure everyone and their grandmothers and their grandchildren were calling Tucker Carlson, trying to get him on their show. So I do know that we know a bunch of the same people and we know people who work for Tucker. I'm hoping that we can actually get him on the show. It'd be amazing. I'm a big fan. I think it'd be fantastic. But we'll see.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I mean, it was a last minute thing. We reached out to his people. They said they let him know. But there's currently like a big... He got... So let's jump into the news so you can understand the context here. This is really interesting. We have this story from Timcast.com. Fox News founder
Starting point is 00:06:53 Rupert Murdoch pushed for Tucker Carlson's ousting. Murdoch was reportedly cornered over the former Fox News host's... Oh, I'm sorry. Concerned. What am I doing? Murdoch was reportedly concerned over the former Fox News host's coverage of the Capitol riot on January 6th. Murdoch, the former Fox News host's departure is allegedly related to a discrimination lawsuit filed last month by former producer Abby Grossberg. Carlson's senior executive producer, Justin Wells, has also been let go, though Fox News representatives did not further comment. Grossberg, who worked on Sunday morning features with Maria Bartiromo,
Starting point is 00:07:26 claimed she was bullied and subjected to anti-Semitic comments after being placed on Tucker Carlson tonight. Carlson previously reported on the Capitol riot, noting Ray Epps, who was president of the Capitol on January 6th, may be a government informant. Epps has since claimed he has been scrutinized and received death threats following Carlson's reporting. The FBI reportedly told 60 Minutes Epps has never worked for the agency per the la times i think um i don't know
Starting point is 00:07:49 i don't know exactly what they said but i think the fbi statement of 60 minutes was like weasley weasel words like the question is was he informing for you or taking any instruction from you and they gave this he has never been an employee of the you know was this when ted cruz was asking questions no this is a new oh this is a new okay i was asking questions no this is a new but uh so here's what what may be a factor here they're saying january 6 coverage i think specifically it's possible this is somewhat related to the dominion lawsuit not directly indirectly in that they're like we don't want to get sued again don't go around accusing people of being federal informants or things like that. That may be a factor in Tucker Carlson's ousting. But I do think it's important to point out.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Let's read this headline from the Daily Mail. Tucker Carlson blindsided by Fox News firing that was a direct order from Rupert Murdoch after January 6th conspiracy claims and producers lawsuit alleging bullying, sexism and anti-Semitismemitism, and his exit erases $500 million in value. I think it went up to a billion on their stock. So, I mean, the important thing to point out is that Tucker was our only real competition, and with his ousting, Tim cast IRL, we're going to the moon, baby!
Starting point is 00:08:57 That's why I came back. I wasn't going to come here. I was telling Tim I would be here, and I wanted to leave him high and dry. But then when Tucker got fired, I was like, this is opportunity. That's right. He Seamus was like, bro, I can literally do my impression of him all the time and people won't even know the difference. Well, now he doesn't want you to know this, but you can just watch Tim cast if you want to see Tucker. Actually,
Starting point is 00:09:14 it's better than AI. Exactly. Exactly. I do feel like this has the vibe of McDonald's deciding that it's not going to sell the Big Mac anymore because some people get sick from it. Like they have lost so much money. Tucker Carlson has such a big following. How can they possibly fill this void now? Dude, honestly, you know, again, the reason why he may or may not have been fired aside, I think that this is incredible for Tucker Carlson and for independent media as a whole,
Starting point is 00:09:42 to be quite honest for you, because we already all knew that cable news was dead. Gen Z, the average human being is not getting their news, you know, from mainstream media anymore, to be quite honest with you. It's all coming from Twitter. I mean, I've only ever watched Tucker Carlson segments on Twitter, to be quite honest with you. So I really don't think that this is going to impact him very much. He's only going to get bigger. We all know that. And yeah, good luck to Fox News after this, because they just completely destroyed themselves. I hope you're right. I don't know that I'm so optimistic. I think you're right about Fox News destroying themselves. But part of what concerns me is that there are millions of people in this
Starting point is 00:10:16 country who still believe that the dominant media culture has any credibility. And they really do believe that Fox News sets the standard for acceptable conservative discourse. And with Tucker Carlson leaving, well, I do agree he certainly doesn't need Fox to stay afloat. I'll still watch him. You'll still watch him. The young audience who likes him will. His legitimacy isn't going to be given or his ideas aren't going to appear to have the same legitimacy to an older audience. I mean, it makes me wonder if he'll go completely independent or if he'll move to Newsmax, right?
Starting point is 00:10:45 Or run for president. Yeah, I mean, that would be even more fun. Here's the thing, I hope you're right. I hope you're right and Tucker just continues to grow and blow up. The thing that people don't realize, right, with Fox News as they exist is, while CNN is the network that tells you
Starting point is 00:10:58 what you're supposed to believe, Fox is the network that tells you what you're allowed to believe. You might not like the flavor CNN is offering. And so here's the outer limit over here of what you're allowed to voice and believe. And what Tucker Carlson did is he moved the Overton window they had there more towards the direction of anti-establishment truth speaking, as opposed to catering to the vision of what conservatives should be that the establishment right has been trying to promote for decades. Well, yeah, Fox, like Hannity is, you know, he's the guy who says the big things that control stuff are bad. So you should just sit there and listen to me yell about it so that they can keep doing
Starting point is 00:11:35 whatever they want. And then Tucker Carlson is like, you know, actually, they shouldn't be doing that. And here's an alternate theory. This is one thing that conservatives are really struggled with in media is what Fox will do and what a lot of these right-wing pundits will do is they will poke holes in the media narrative, but they won't offer a counter narrative. And so when we have Tucker Carlson talking about January 6th and Ray Epps, what he's essentially doing is filling in the gaps for people.
Starting point is 00:11:58 He's saying, here's this guy who we saw inciting, arguably, allegedly, right? We have the footage of it. That's not alleged, but whether that's something he would be prosecuted with inciting violence for is another story however what a traditional fox news host might say is we'll look at all of these holes in the left's narrative but they wouldn't say here's the alternate explanation and in fact they would say anyone who promotes that alternate explanation is a far- lunatic. And I'm not one of those guys. Tucker Carlson was actually willing to give you substance aside from the left is wrong. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Yeah, I think he did bring forward a lot of topics. And like you said, points that we would not have normally heard from a Hannity, maybe even from a Laura Ingram. A lot of people talking about to how Jesse Waters may be the only last person at Fox News that people could really trust who could maybe even follow tucker carlson so yeah you know this is going to be a big hit like you said to the older generation that does still look to the mainstream media and view them as a legitimate source of news um we'll see what happens in the future but you know like i said i think that this is actually a good thing i'm looking i'm trying to
Starting point is 00:13:02 look at the positives of this you know what i mean just with like uh tucker leaving fox now we know the corporate media is a laughing stock nobody trusts them elon is taking over twitter now independent journalism is really thriving uh so yeah i've been blackmailed about a lot in the nation and so i think that uh you know i'm just i'm excited about where we're at in regards to independent journalism and the freedom that people now have to be able to tell the truth a little bit more. Take a look at this story from Politico. It's interesting. Tucker Carlson's exit shows who's the real star at Fox.
Starting point is 00:13:31 No one is irreplaceable. And they go on to make the stupidest argument I've ever heard that Glenn Beck wasn't the star in 2009 when he generated the largest viewership in the 5 p.m. hour. Bill O'Reilly wasn't, blah, blah, blah. They're arguing that Fox will easily replace Tucker Carlson in the 8 p.m hour bill o'reilly wasn't blah blah blah they're arguing that fox will easily replace tucker carlson in the 8 p.m slot and i gotta tell you they will not no they've already they've already tried doing um i can't remember what for what show it was they had one slot
Starting point is 00:13:57 recently in the past year whatever where they were doing rotating series of guest hosts trying to figure out who would be a good personality and it didn't go anywhere tucker carlson is the guy right yeah dude and even when he's absent right there's no clear oh when tucker's out we definitely want this this person and they haven't been able to successfully audition somebody to inherit the slot so now they fired him they haven't even given him a transition schedule to leave and they're going to do what with it who are they going to call up from the the the uh from the bench to to fix this that's what i'm saying i feel like tucker was top dog he wasn't afraid to talk about things and the great thing about tucker too is that he would go and speak to and platform the smaller independent journalists who had
Starting point is 00:14:40 substantial stories i remember when i was at the 2022 NCAA Women's Swimming Championship, Twitter had deleted the clip of the first athlete that spoke out against Leah Thomas. It wasn't Riley Gaines or the other athlete who had spoken out, but it was this young Virginia Tech swimmer named Rose. Tucker picked up her interview. He is the one that made that, you know, really big. Twitter ended up censoring and deleting the clip.
Starting point is 00:15:02 But, you know, that's just an example of how Tucker has been at the forefront of like helping the little man and helping the average American. And that's why he's popular, because your average mainstream media head doesn't care about the, you know, the actual American public. They don't care about what we are going through in this country. They care about sharing their talking points. Tucker was the exact opposite of that. And there really is no other pundit that can compare in the mainstream. Yeah. And that's also part of why I was saying earlier, I really do think this is bad for us. We've been deprived of something. Tucker having that platform on national television and being able to tell the story of these
Starting point is 00:15:34 female athletes who have been deprived of what they should have had the opportunity to do because Leah Thomas was competing in their sports was massive. Two voters, 55 and up. That's what we're losing. They're not going to transition to YouTube the way that the younger audience people who are interested in tucker well exactly and look at who the biden administration is targeting right now it's gen z with all of these dumb tiktokers now and it is this next generation that is going to be leading this country that is going to be leading uh you know us into where we're going to be going as a
Starting point is 00:16:04 country guess i articulated that horribly uh but yeah that's why I'm like, okay, let's lose the boomer audience. All right, like we need to be focusing on the younger people. And I think that Tucker has that big following. And he can do that with the amount of independent media we have. I certainly don't disagree that Tucker is going to be fine on his own. And I hope that his audience is going to continue to grow. i am just a little bit cautious and i'm a little bit skeptical that he's going to be able to build the kind of platform that we would like to see him have given how hard big tech tech clamps down on anyone who speaks the truth and i hope that's true and look i'm on rumble now too for my podcast i think they're a great
Starting point is 00:16:41 platform i hope they're able to reach some kind of deal. I do like your optimism, but I will still say I think the American people were deprived of something. I think it's very sad. He was basically the only person on cable television saying anything, right? Like you said, the other news anchors give you talking points. This is a threat to democracy or that was racist and xenophobic. They'll just regurgitate these lines they've heard someone else say. And Tucker would say something.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Can you give me an example of something, say, Hannity said in the past few months? No, I can't give you an example of something Hannity said. Can anybody in the room? Well, look, because I'm not a boomer. I don't really watch cable television. I'll tune in every now and again, but it's pretty rare for me. I get most of my information from the internet and the sources I find to be credible there. I just want you to know that you're insulting a lot of boomers in the chat listen listen no offense to the good boomers some of
Starting point is 00:17:28 them i assume are good people right but my parents are in that generation my parents are in that generation too and i think tucker carlson did uh fantastic work when he was on fox the boomers gave us star trek the next generation that's also true it It's fantastic. That is true. Thank you, Boomers. That's like one of the very few things. But if that's like the only thing, then... But even that was a spinoff of something. I mean, Gene Roddenberry wasn't a Boomer, right? Boomer's worked on it. But that's a spinoff from the original Star Trek from the 60s.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Sure. And they made it better. There's a whole huge debate to have there. We're not going to get into that controversial territory here on timcast what if fox brings on don lemon now and he takes the eight o'clock time it actually the thing is it wouldn't sound that different but fox wouldn't sound that different if they brought don lemon on that's what bothers me they're all so they're all saying the same thing they're interchangeable we got to mention that dude was fired but first i want to talk about this story can i just make one more point really quickly about this So they're saying what you said hit the nail on the head, right?
Starting point is 00:18:26 They think Tucker is going to be replaceable because everyone else on television is. All of these other personalities are. It is not going to be easy to replace Tucker. We got another theory, a couple of theories as to why Tucker Carlson was removed from Fox News. This story just from the other day on Post Millennial. AOC demands Biden admin regulate Tucker Carlson Fox News due to incitement of violence. I just like to point something out. How do you regulate incitement to violence?
Starting point is 00:18:54 Does anybody have a suggestion? You'd be in jail. Yes. Incitement to violence is a federal felony. And how do we regulate for people who are committing felonies? We arrest them and put them in jail. AOC said on MSNBC to Jen Psaki that what Tucker Carlson is doing is incitement to violence and the government should be involved. They should be regulating this or whatever. What they're doing
Starting point is 00:19:18 is the typical leftist weasel words, where she's, of course, implying that Tucker Carlson should be arrested and charged, but then saying, no, of course, I mean, they should stop hate speech or something. And it's like, you accused Tucker Carlson of committing a felony, incitement to violence. That is, I'm pretty sure, defamation per se, meaning it's so egregious to accuse someone of committing a crime that it's much, much easier to overcome the burdens in time v. Sullivan. Tucker Carlson is probably just sue AOC outright for saying this. I hope he does. Because there are people who really incite violence like Savannah.
Starting point is 00:19:51 That's right. You know what? No, I really hope that he does, though. Because to be quite honest, I am tired of these leftist politicians who do continue to incite people to violence. We can look at the LGBTQ community, Antifa, Black Lives Matter. The list goes on and on. We can look at the LGBTQ community, Antifa, Black Lives Matter, the list goes on and on. We can look at, you know, at the FBI and all the times they've entrapped Americans and tried to incite them to violence. Let's go ahead and get into all of that.
Starting point is 00:20:12 And we want, we have AOC over here talking to the Biden administration, demanding them to take Tucker off of air. It's absolutely ridiculous. And you know, Chuck Schumer came forward. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Chuck Schumer came forward too, because he was saying that, you know, Chuck Schumer came forward. They would put him in jail. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Chuck Schumer came forward too because he was saying that, you know, Tucker Carlson killed democracy. It was the destruction of democracy when he came out and he showed the American public more January 6th footage that the J6 commission was withholding. It's just absolutely ridiculous to me.
Starting point is 00:20:36 And I'm so tired of being run by criminals, but that's just where we're at in America in 2023. You know, the left can go ahead and incite violence against us all day long, but Tucker Carlson can't go and accurately report on his own show. I was just going to say, AOC doesn't see that this is an endorsement of Tucker. Like he's reaffirming to people that this is their guy, right? Because there are people, and you know, it is a little bit of partisanship.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Anything AOC says is wrong. And to be fair, that's not an entirely bad judgment. But now that she's saying he's inciting violence, they know he's not. They know that she, as a representation of the left establishment, is afraid of him. It makes him even more powerful, especially to those who support him. Well, exactly. As you say, he's such a threat that he needs to be imprisoned. He needs to be taken off the air.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Yeah. And of course, like you said, they accuse every single person who disagrees with them of inciting violence. That's the new version of calling somebody racist. All it means is you have said something that I disagree with. The term ends up losing all meaning, et cetera, et cetera. The other theory as to why Tucker Carlson is removed. So I got the idea here is that AOC is saying he's committing a crime. There's been big pressure, you know, so I doubt that's the
Starting point is 00:21:37 reason, but, you know, maybe. But the other big question is Tucker just moved to Florida. It was reported by the New York Post. The New York Post deleted the article because I guess it had revealing information as to where he lived. Why would he go down to Florida? Well, Florida's nice. It's a good retirement, but he did so in the past week, which to some insinuates that he knew he was about to leave Fox News. So this could be kind of like a retirement. Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks said he believes that Tucker Carlson was trying to get fired on purpose because he intends to run for president. Several others are implying that he may be Trump's vice presidential pick, which would be the smartest move that would have been the smartest move at
Starting point is 00:22:15 any point ever, except for the fact that no one believed it possible because Tucker was working at Fox News. Now that Tucker Carlson is a free agent, Trump Carlson 2024 sounds extremely plausible. I would like that even better if he had kept his residency in Maine, and then we could have Maine's very first anyone in the Oval Office, you know? They've never had a president.
Starting point is 00:22:35 They've never had a vice president. I think Maine deserves that win, and Tucker Carlson would have been the best pick for it. Is that your main concern about politics? I would say it's a strong- No, it wasn't just a pun. It wasn't just a pun. It was a legitimate question.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Do you spend a lot of time thinking about someone coming from Vegas? I'll just say, as someone from Illinois, as someone from Cook County, I'm hoping whoever's elected is not from there in any election. New England really needs to hold on. Otherwise, they're going to have to merge into one state to have any kind of electoral power. But I'm being serious. I think when people pick vice presidents, they do want to show that they are representing a different part of the country.
Starting point is 00:23:05 That's why we picked Pence initially, right? We have this brash New Yorker and then we have this like evangelical standard Republican from the Midwest. In some ways, obviously, we know Tucker Carlson is not like he does spend a lot of time in Maine, but he's not really from there. It would represent different parts of the company, although it would be East Coast dominance. I think it's I think it would be an extremely unorthodox move to pick a VP who's from the same state that you are claiming residency in. Although I will say, I have not been interested in following the 2024, like pre-election stuff so far. I feel like Trump's kind of bored me. I'm not going to lie, like the constant bickering with DeSantis. But Tucker being involved, like obviously it's not
Starting point is 00:23:42 confirmed that he's going to be VP, but him just being involved in, you know, the speculation that this could now be a thing has made 2024 a lot more exciting, a lot more exciting, I would say. Yeah. I mean, I would love to see a Trump Carlson ticket. Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah. I don't like anyone's fighting it. Yeah. I mean, a Trump Carlson ticket could be a very interesting thing i would i mean how would that work tucker is just gonna lobby desantis to be his vp pick or tucker would run a campaign in the primaries what i mean he talked oh i'm sorry not desantis my bad trump would you like talk to trump and say like oh make me donald the establishment wants you to think i can't be your vp pick i can't actually or does does tucker launch his own presidential campaign and then lose the
Starting point is 00:24:26 second yeah yeah yeah trump that's what i think tim scott's trying to do i don't think that's why he's like i have an exploratory committee interesting i'm thinking about running for president being like trump please notice me i'd love to be vp then trump meets with them and says don't run and we'll give you a position or something like that we will give you that's probably a lot of what what it is for all these people who are running. They just want Trump to appoint them somewhere. Yeah, I could see that. But Tucker Carlson would be legit.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I think that makes a lot of sense. The thing is, apparently before Tucker moved to Florida, he had met with Trump and I think Marjorie Taylor Greene or something like that. So the speculation was that something's been in the works for a minute. I wouldn't be surprised. I feel like his relationship with Fox has been strained for long enough. You know, not everything can... As much as we appreciate what he
Starting point is 00:25:14 does, it doesn't going to last forever. It wasn't sustainable long term, and I don't think either one of the parties were entirely happy with the dynamic between the two of them. No, I mean, look, Fox is going to try to find their new like bad boy to their new anti-establishment guy and it's going to be super critical well exactly because they're going to want to be someone with sort of the veneer of being transgressive
Starting point is 00:25:35 but who will never say the kinds of things tucker carlson said the fact that we can't name oh they're obviously going to put whoever don lemon into this spot means that like there is no trump lemon 2024 that would be yeah yeah don lemon would be uh trump's kamala i mean we've got uh we've got more news as to as to why people think tucker may have been ousted check this out jonathan uh kogan says blackrock increased position in fox corporation fintel reports that BlackRock has filed a 13G-A form with the SEC disclosing ownership of 45.74 million shares of Fox Corporation,
Starting point is 00:26:11 which is, they say, it's an increase of 14.75%, an increase in total ownership of 2.7%. Do you think this played a role in Carlson's departure? I don't know. I mean, probably. Isn't blackrock like a principal esg company yeah interesting i mean it certainly could be a factor certainly could be a factor i
Starting point is 00:26:34 don't think they're in love with tucker carlson and what he's saying and doing i don't think anyone in court he's the only one on tv the only corporation the only corporation he was earning money for didn't even like him, so. Yeah. Has Tucker criticized BlackRock before? I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, he has to have. But I mean, that's the thing. Yep, BlackRock's the one company he's like, actually, I like them. For years, Tucker
Starting point is 00:26:56 Carlson has had multiple segments talking about BlackRock. Yeah. Well, see, and the amount of things that he's talked about from, again, January 6th, the FBI, the DOJ, all of the corruption and that from the economy to the border, it's like he was talking about real substantial issues, not the distractions that the mainstream is continuously pushing our way. So it was only a matter of time before he was eventually taken off air, because, I mean, we've all seen how powerful Tucker's segments were. We've all seen, you know, how much sway he had in the public, how much support he does have. So, yeah, I mean, I wasn't even surprised
Starting point is 00:27:28 when I saw this, to be quite honest. Yeah, it was only a matter of time, right? He wasn't going to spend the rest of his career there. But, I mean, how old is he? He's in late 40s? No, he's older than that, I think. I think he's in his 50s.
Starting point is 00:27:38 50s? Because he has kids who were, like, out of college and stuff. Yeah, I think probably early 50s. Really? Yeah. 53 years old. I mean...
Starting point is 00:27:44 53! Oh, wow. I love that that's the picture that comes up when you Google him. It's the exact were out of college and stuff. Yeah, I think probably early 50s right now. Yeah. 53 years old. 53? Oh, wow. I love that that's the picture that comes up when you Google him. It's the exact picture you think would come up. It's the face. The face where he's scrunching his face? He's 53. He's not quite at retirement yet, but he is at be the VP age, I guess.
Starting point is 00:27:58 It's what retirement ain't about your age. It's about your bank account. He's got a big one. You gotta absolutely step out if you wanted to. I don think he wants to though there's other questions about whether or not he just saw how much money was being made by people who were independent and he realized that fox news was just taking everything from him you know i can see it i mean i'm gonna be like tim pool no one's gonna be taking my cash from me except for how much money is he making that's too much how much money is to making no one should have that much the government needs to take that
Starting point is 00:28:24 he makes that much to voice dr fauci on freedom tunes it's ridiculous and i wonder how much uh fox news was trying to censor and suppress what he was trying to discuss i wonder how much that was going on behind the scenes as well so yeah that is why again you know the independent media is um so enticing to so many people because then you're not tethered to anybody or anything you have nobody lording over you telling you what you can and cannot say and you know people have been making the meme all day tucker carlson unleashed with it which i think is uh spot on but what if he didn't even want to talk about politics this whole time and that's how fox got he wants to be like a he's like actually if i if i use my diamond to axe and keep hitting this i don't play my show
Starting point is 00:29:02 that he really wants to like get off the ground. He's like, here's my video essay on why SpongeBob got bad after the first 10 years. He's playing Overwatch. I just think that, you know, part of it isn't even about retiring. It's that the landscape
Starting point is 00:29:15 of American politics. Shh, I'm talking. No, I'm just kidding. ABC. It's so rude for interrupting me. I think that the landscape of American media and politics has changed so dramatically that, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:27 no one who goes into media right now knows exactly where their career will be in 10 years. And I think that's always been true of Tucker Carlson. It would be surprising to me if he hadn't seen some sort of writing on the walls and been plotting an exit. The weirdest thing about this to me is that it's so abrupt. I don't, yeah, I don't know if...
Starting point is 00:29:45 It was apparently like he got 10 minutes notice. Yeah. But let's... Look, I know that we're all sitting here somber and serious, but we have a very, very similar story that will allow us to laugh. And that story is
Starting point is 00:29:57 Don Lemon says he was fired by CNN. Lemon said he's stunned and learned the news from his agent. Quote, Don will forever be a part of the CNN family. We thank him for his contributions over the past 17 years. We wish him well and we'll be cheering him on in his future endeavors. Well, I'll be cheering on his departure.
Starting point is 00:30:14 So we're all cheering for something. How about that, CNN? After 17 years at CNN, I would have thought that someone in management would have had the decency to tell me directly. At no time was I ever given any indication that I would not be able to continue to do the work that I have loved at the network. It is clear that there are some larger issues at play. Now, I got to agree. First, James O'Keefe, then Don
Starting point is 00:30:34 Lemon. People are going after very Okay, so we are concerned about James O'Keefe and Tucker Carlson. We're actually happy with the Don Lemon thing. So, it is strange though. A lot of shake-up in media. So, what do you think no one at cnn actually told him apparently he's lying okay i guess cnn well that's why he worked there yeah can i just say that my favorite part about his firing is that he couldn't even accurately
Starting point is 00:30:55 report on his own firing come on don damn i mean it's also interesting to me that we're all like oh so tucker's probably gonna go independent whereas like don lemon we're like what is he gonna do by tomorrow he's gonna be he's gonna be holding up a foam cup what happened to brian stelter that's where don lemon's going we just know he is not going independent and partially this like how could they do this to me statement proves how much he wants to stay with the machine it's just such a clear uh contrast in the mentalities right we have no hope for him did you guys guys see Brian Stelter on that, he did that interview. Who was that interview with?
Starting point is 00:31:28 I think it was News Nation or something. And he's like, why were you fired, Brian? And he's like, I don't know. I really have no idea. And everyone's like, really, Brian? You don't know? Your boss explained exactly why he was firing people. And it's like, your boss comes out and says i'm
Starting point is 00:31:45 going to fire partisan actors who are activists and not journalists brian stout to you're fired me i wonder why that happened yeah how could you do this to me says brian no i think don lemon is like i can't believe this happened are you kidding dude also you made caitlin collins cry it's been reported yeah oh i mean part of it is this idea like, how could senior management not contact me? Like, maybe it's because they don't want to talk to you because you're difficult to deal with. Like, that's why they made your own agent tell you.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Because they didn't want to have a scene in the building. They didn't want to deal with a call. Like, it... Yeah. Sometimes a person is like a maniac. That's a fair point. And Don Lemon fits that profile. No, he's so rational.
Starting point is 00:32:27 What are you talking about? Tim, you Hanser, you Hanser, you hired canceled people. You should hire Don Lemon, dude. Get your other chair. Jeremy Boring posted something like, many people are asking about Daily Wire, making an offer to Tucker, but wherever Tucker lands, he'll be successful.
Starting point is 00:32:44 And then he later posted, many people are asking about the Daily wire hiring don lemon i'm just kidding nobody's asking that well that would be an amazing shake-up though don lemon goes to the daily wire right it's a sad state of affairs because basically everyone on cable news is somebody who would never have gotten a platform if they had to build it up on their own you know let me let me tell you something that's an important point an important point. How much was Don Lemon getting paid? Too much. Also to have been with a network for 17 years.
Starting point is 00:33:11 $4 million. Wow. Let's see. His salary is estimated to be $4 million per year. I'm thinking about that, right? Nobody likes Don Lemon. Like, even the left doesn't like Don Lemon. Nobody likes him.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Now I'm starting to feel bad for him, Tim. You're really going in on this guy. It's okay. It's okay. He can just move to San Francisco and get reparations. He'll be fine. Here's what I'm thinking about. We're talking about what could this guy do now that he's, like, lost his job.
Starting point is 00:33:36 He can't get a job at a movie theater as a manager, right? Because they'd be like, dude, you're Don Lemon. Like, it's going to cause issues for us. You're overqualified. You're bad for our brand, man. no it is yeah yeah like high profile individuals can't get regular jobs for the most part because they're just like you're a huge liability we don't want the attention we don't want the commotion and we don't believe that you'd actually take the job and stick with it so don lemon where could he possibly go i'm imagining what it would
Starting point is 00:34:01 be like to be don lemon and to be hanging out semi-retired because you got fired at a bar do you think people are going to go up to Don Lemon and be like hey man I'm a big fan, sorry to hear what happened no way well it depends on the kind of bar I guess no, I don't think based on the way the left
Starting point is 00:34:18 and the right view Don Lemon that there's any circumstance where he shows up somewhere and they're like wow Don Lemon I'm just a big fan of your work they might be like oh yeah you're don lemon how about that you never go to the center left bar down the street he's not he's not even center left i know he's like a he's like he's like weirdo panderist corporatist yeah and people are gonna be like ha look it's don lemon get a job dude that's what they're gonna do he's gonna become a twitch streamer he's gonna be biggest one i i think that would be an amazing character arc but also i think he's gonna do what a lot of people who
Starting point is 00:34:47 kind of fail their way out of the uh career they're in whether it be media or politics and he's gonna go to be going to academia he's just gonna become a professor some college is gonna be like don lemon we will just give you tenure right away and you can teach the next generation of people and then we get to tell like bring you out whenever we're like look how fancy our school is he checks all the dei boxes as well so that's a good point and this is the reason why uh as well media is so dead because the next generation of journalism students are being taught and indoctrinated by people like don lemon and brian stelter it's truly incredible yeah it's not a great system but it's the one that exists not that because that's where Liz Cheney is.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Liz Cheney's teaching at, what, University of Virginia? I don't think anybody actually watched Don Lemon. But he's a name people know. So I hear, I think I agree with Hannah Clare that some university will be like, we only hire people who don't know anything. What if CNN offered you $4 million a year to host the morning show with Caitlin Collins? I would say that's far too much. It's going a giant waste of money i'm gonna go do it and then i would go in there and on the first day i would say everything that they no i mean i'd say what
Starting point is 00:35:56 the cnn reach out to me let's have a conversation you can contact my people but i mean it's a serious question yeah what are you are you really like what would i have cnn had a show with me if i would explain i would like explain to the the public why the sexual revolution is a farce in this country's great christian values and that would be my morning show i'd be like this coffee is terrible but you know what's even worse john money has been done to mankind john money alfred kinsey i would turn the first morning show into a presentation on Alfred Kinsey. No, but in all seriousness, if CNN tried poaching a anti-establishment or right-leaning personality and the CEO was like, look, we don't want to be partisan, should they do it? Right? Like, would you take a morning anchor position at CNN?
Starting point is 00:36:40 Absolutely not. Liar. No. But I don't know if that... Yes, you would. I'm not a money person and CNN is a laughingstock. I stock i'd be embarrassed to work there to be quite honest with you see i feel like shames is kind of right to be like yes i'll take the money and then i'll just continue to be myself and i'll just do it and they can fire me like if you have an ironclad contract where it's
Starting point is 00:36:58 like if you want to fire me you have to pay me an additional million dollars like no just run it out for six weeks go there is because again i really do truly feel like corporate media is dead so going to cnn would just kill my career just be pointless yeah you're picking meat off the carcass but you're still making four million dollars all right i see what you're saying that's what i'm saying like you go into cnn you look at the camera and you explain all of the horrible things that the industrial military complex is doing and the wars they're pushing us into you explain to them yeah and the fed you explain to them the the farce of sexual liberation you explain to them what's happening to these children who are being mutilated by doctors and
Starting point is 00:37:32 then you lead a a segment with a few moments of prayer silent prayer exactly if and then they're like all right now we gotta get away if you want to reach the people most in need actually going to cnn is essentially a missionary trip exactly oh yeah you tim you just asked me if i would go to nineveh for four million dollars or whether i would go into the belly of that whale i'm choosing the whale you're better than me you're better well jonah did it first too and then so uh the other thing is i've actually gotten a bunch of messages from people and they were like your main competition for 8 p.m has been removed and it's like i look for us tucker cross and was competition for tucker cross and we are not competition you know what i mean like the torch has been passed him this is a lot of pressure on you he needs to come in and like announce you are the new you need like a silk
Starting point is 00:38:17 beanie now all right well hopefully we get him on the show and then he says uh you just watched him cast ir off no one yeah he's you should ask tucker to be your new co-host dude but i think that the reason i was asking about cnn is because chris licht is clearly trying to fix the network i'm not sure if it can be done because like if uh if you bought a car and then like some guy say it's don lemon went inside that car and then defecated all over the seats, the nice leather seats.
Starting point is 00:38:47 That happened to a friend of mine actually. And then left the car in the sun for, you know, several days to fester in the summer heat in Las Vegas. And, and then a new, the car was given, was bought by some guys like,
Starting point is 00:38:58 I'm going to clean this up. You know, I still wouldn't want to ride in the car. Yeah. You know what I mean? Exactly. There's nothing you could, you could replace the inside and everything. I'm just like, you don't want to be in a car that Yeah. You know what I mean? Exactly. There's nothing. You could replace the inside and everything.
Starting point is 00:39:06 I'm just like. You don't want to be in a car that Don Lemon sat in? But it's not that. It's like people are going to see you driving around in it. And they're going to be like, dude, you're driving around in that car full of crap. It's like, we cleaned it, man. It's like, I hope so. He who humbles himself will be exalted.
Starting point is 00:39:19 That's embarrassing, bro. Get out of there. What did you say? He who humbles himself will be exalted. If that's what CNN is, I would go there and I would spread the truth. And I would take the embarrassment of being on CNN. If that's what CNN is, I would go there and I would spread the truth. And I would take the embarrassment of being on CNN. But there's an important point to this conversation, which is that as we're talking about CNN,
Starting point is 00:39:35 every single one of us is like, that would be super embarrassing to be on CNN. That would be like absolutely humiliating. Can I play for you the clip that got Don Lemon fired? So this is from Aaron Rupar, the notorious, what is he still with Vox? I don't know where he works. I guess not. He's, according to the New York Times, this interview that Don Lemon conducted last week with Vivek Ramaswamy played a role in his firing. Note, co-host Poppy Harlow sitting silently
Starting point is 00:39:55 while Lemon goes after Vivek. Check this out. Is it going to play? I find your explanation reductive and actually insulting, including to black Americans to say that black people today, compared to 1964, 1865, haven't made progress in part because of the freedoms we secured. And the Second Amendment was part of the security of that freedom. I cannot keep a thought if you guys are talking to me in my ear.
Starting point is 00:40:15 So hang on one second. So to say that. Wait, wait, wait. I got to pause. You hear that? Don Lemon is talking to the producers, telling them to stop talking in my ear. They're probably saying, Don, shut up, stop. And he goes, I can't I can't do this.
Starting point is 00:40:29 And then he goes off. It's not the first time he's done this. Black people secured their freedoms after the Civil War is a historical fact. Don, just study it. Only after their Second Amendment rights were secured. They were not secured their freedoms after the Civil War. That is not you. You are discounting the reconstruction.
Starting point is 00:40:44 You're discounting a whole host of things that happened after the Civil War. That it's not, you are discounting Reconstruction, you're discounting a whole host of things that happened after the Civil War when it comes to African Americans, including the whole reason that the Civil Rights Movement happened is because black people did not secure their freedoms after the Civil War and that things turned around. People tried to change the freedoms that were supposed
Starting point is 00:41:00 to happen after the Civil War. And you know how they got it? They got their Second Amendment rights and they actually got, the NRA played a big role in that. But today, down the fine line— The NRA did not play a big role in that. Absolutely, they trained black Americans how to use firearms. That's a lie. That's not. The NRA did not play a big role in that. This is just historical fact. It's not a historical fact.
Starting point is 00:41:12 The part that I find— Just because you say it's a historical fact— The part that I find insulting is when you say today black Americans don't have those rights after we have gone through civil rights revolution in this country. You are sitting here telling an African American about the rights and what you find insulting about the way I live, the skin I live in this country. You are sitting here telling an African-American about the rights and what you find insulting about the way I live, the skin I live in every day. Here's where you and I have a different point of view. And I know the freedoms that black people don't have in this country and that black people do have.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Well, here's where you and I have a different point of view. I think we should be able to express our views regardless of the color of our skin. We should have this debate without me regarding you as a black man, but me regarding you as a fellow citizen. That's what I think we should say. Whatever ethnicity you are, splaining to me. Splaining. Whatever ethnicity you are.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Whatever ethnicity I'm of. Yeah, that is bad. I'm proud of it, but I think we should have this debate. Black, white, doesn't matter. I think we should have this debate. On the content of the ideas. If you're going to do it, you should do it in an honest way and in a fair way. And what you're doing is not in an honest and fair way.
Starting point is 00:42:03 We appreciate you coming on. Could you imagine buying a car that's been just like stained with don lemon's crap i gotta and then you're like trying to convince people you're making it better but don lemon keeps crapping in the front seat i gotta be honest i am so sick of whatever ethnicity you are privileged it is whatever ethnicity you are wow no i just want to be poppy he went he went for being racist without knowing what without even knowing Without even knowing. He's like, I don't know what stereotype to insult you with. I'm just going to assume there is
Starting point is 00:42:29 something. But I think the real reason he got fired is right there in the beginning. I'm going to play that again. With due respect, I find your explanation reductive and actually insulting, including to black Americans, to say that black people today, compared to 1964, 1865, haven't made progress in part because of the freedoms we secured. And the second amendment was
Starting point is 00:42:49 I cannot keep a thought if you guys are talking to me in my ear. So right there, I cannot keep a thought if you guys are talking to me in my ear. CNN is so horribly mismanaged. I bet they were saying, stop arguing, be a journalist, stop arguing, ask him his views and move on. And Don was like, no, Black Lives Matter. If he asked some questions, he might know what ethnicity he is. That's right.
Starting point is 00:43:12 No, no, no. It's not about who he's interviewing. It's about Don Lemon, right? He's here to make these points, whatever ethnicity you are, and move on. I think that's what's hard. He is used to interviewing guests who are maybe a little sycophantic. He's not prepared to, not that Vivek is being hostile they're just obviously on different sides so he's not prepared to go into an interview with someone who he disagrees with he wants people
Starting point is 00:43:33 to support his beliefs only and i think that summarizes a lot of the hosts on cnn and their viewership right it is ultimately to reinforce your own worldview whereas like contrasting tucker tucker is like look we got to talk about this stuff that's happening even if you don't like It is ultimately to reinforce your own worldview. Whereas like contrasting Tucker, Tucker was like, look, we got to talk about this stuff that's happening, even if you don't like it or even if you're skeptical about it. Jeff Zucker slithered into CNN and then defecated into the brains of their hosts.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Because Don Lemon, if you watch his videos from like 10 years ago, was a very, very different person. I was going to bring that up. If you just played a clip of old Don Lemon versus new Don Lemon, completely different people, completely different. Like, yeah, Don Lemon, I wouldn't say mirrored Tucker, but he made good points.
Starting point is 00:44:15 He was a normal human being. He actually seemed like he cared about reporting and highlighting issues that were actually affecting people, whereas now it's all propaganda. So this clip is just incredible. We love to see it. We love to see people imploding, you know, via their own actions. I just wish we could get the audio.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Like, I wish they'd leak the audio of whatever they were saying to Don Lemon. Like, please, just move on. Don't say anything. Don't. Don't do anything. And he's like, no, I don't need you. No, it's the producer being like, Don, please. You need to stop.
Starting point is 00:44:43 And then he goes, I can't keep a thought of you talking in my ear. And he goes, I'm sorry. Or it was the producers trying to feed him talking points to counter the vague. Yeah. You know what? This is occurring to me, too. So his network is most likely getting mad at him for being annoying. But it's not like he broke a particular story that anyone is speculating that they're mad at him for.
Starting point is 00:45:02 And I think that really says something. Because with Tucker Carlson, we are speculating. Well, maybe it was the January 6th story. Maybe it was about the Dominion voting systems. Whatever it might be, he stepped on a lot of toes, which theoretically is what a journalist is supposed to do. What story has Don Lemon broke of any consequence that any person in power would be upset about?
Starting point is 00:45:20 Oh, he broke the story that he is a black man who has personal experiences that the fake is wrong about. See i didn't know that so thank you for informing me now i have so much more respect for his uh journalistic abilities now that's right his lived experience i mean couldn't figure out whatever ethnicity that guy was his lived experience yeah but he knew about his own lived experience isn't that so dismissive though to hold your own uh ethnic or racial identity as so important to you and then just totally dismiss somebody else like whatever you are i mean but that's the entire modern day yeah it's either your race or sexuality whatever makes you the most special and then you just use that to discount
Starting point is 00:45:56 anybody who disagrees with your claims that's it so easy for sure but if you're going to be race obsessed at least be obsessed with my actual race remember that whatever you are a stan i'm not from whatever you are there was a phone call interview and there was a black radio host and it was like a white woman and she was like well you wouldn't understand because you're white and he goes what ma'am i'm black and she's like what he's like i'm black and she's like you are like her whole worldview is just totally racist and she couldn't understand that there are like black people who have opinions and And then the weirdest thing, these white liberals who are like, they can't fathom someone like Candace Owens or Larry Elder or Thomas Sowell. Those people must be white supremacists or something.
Starting point is 00:46:35 That's my favorite thing to be. Or not exist at all. Yeah. People tell me that I want to be white so bad because I use my brain and I've done research regarding why our country is where it is. So that means I'm trying to be a white person apparently. Yeah, I remember I told this story before about when I was at the Dakota Access Pipeline protest and had a white dude tell me that Asian – when he mentioned that being on time for meetings was colonial thinking.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Nope, that's what he told me. And then I was like, what are you talking about? I was like, I have a meeting. I got to leave. And he's like, that's what theists native americans they didn't do that they just you know they knew when to wake up and then i was like what are you talking about asians have us have have schedules too like what what and he was like yeah but let's be real like white people brought that stuff to asia and i was like asians invented the compass 1000 years before
Starting point is 00:47:22 you did dude i'm not gonna sit here and listen to a white supremacist tell me he invented all culture in the world. But these people genuinely believe it. They're white people who think they did everything and anything good and stoic or work-related or responsible, they think it's
Starting point is 00:47:40 just them and they must bring it to all the lowly others. It's not just that, right? Because then they hate those things. They hate those good things. And they also blame white people for them at the same time while taking credit for them. So yeah, something like having schedules and being on time. That's why people think like the ancient Egyptians had sundials. Other cultures have had a concept of linear time.
Starting point is 00:48:01 As it turns out, like people figured out pretty early on that one thing happens after another thing, and that you can figure out what you're going to do based on what things in nature do in their cycles, like where the sun is at in the sky, for example. And when we got to harvest the grains to make our beer. Yeah, exactly. We started in like North Africa, Northeast Africa. Let's read this next story. We'll jump out of the cable news stuff and into the boycott stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:26 We got this big story from Bright Bart. Bud Light marketing executive Daniel Blake on leave after Dylan Mulvaney ad campaign. Ladies and gentlemen, two different marketing executives have been placed on leave by the company. You know what's really crazy? Instead of just saying,
Starting point is 00:48:43 we're sorry, they just removed two people which is a huge victory i gotta be honest i'm happy to hear it but they can't apologize well they put out a patriotic uh ad tim that that was it they have apologized what else next day and then they sidestepped the entire i gotta i gotta i gotta give a shout out to john oliver who i think is as dumb as a box of rocks, but had a good joke. He was like, I think it was Oliver.
Starting point is 00:49:08 He said the commercial was basically typing in America, freedom, patriot, sorry. And that's what would come out. And I'm like, that's actually pretty good. Like that's basically what they did. And they tried doing the 9-11 thing. Like insult to injury. Apparently they had the Clydesdale commercial after 9-11 with the butt to injury the apparently they had this the Clydesdale commercial
Starting point is 00:49:25 after 9-11 with the bud or whatever I don't remember that I mean but uh so that's what they did in this new one the Clydesdale is running and then it runs past New York and it's like those who never forget and it's just like dude you're not you're not getting out of that by saying 9-11 please don't use a national day of mourning to get you out of this mess I mean we've downplayed 9-11 you know so. Might as well just throw it in the Bud Light app. Apparently so. It's what you need to do
Starting point is 00:49:47 when you have to apologize to people you don't like. I will say, my only thing, I've said this before, is that both of these people are on leave. They are not actually fired.
Starting point is 00:49:56 A lot of people view this as a step towards being fired, but I just think they'll put them in the background for a little while. They'll go to the Bahamas. They'll hang out and then they'll come back.
Starting point is 00:50:03 They are hoping to keep these people in place. I think the first lady got fired for hiring Del Mulvaney and the second guy got fired for that stupid horse commercial. But they're not fired. They're on leave. Okay, that's what I mean. I mean like removed. I thought the first girl got fired.
Starting point is 00:50:16 No, she was not grounded. I only saw her. They were both placed on leave. Which is ambiguous. It means that like when you guys are tired of being mad at us, we'll bring them back. You know, I will say... Sorry, go ahead, Tim. I was gonna say the other big news that Dylan Mulvaney hasn't posted anything since the 7th. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Right. Dylan was posting almost every day or every other day and just stopped posting when this whole thing kicked off. So I just want to say like, I think Dylan Mulvaney is a person who doesn't have anyone who cares about them. And that deeply worries me. Like anybody who is in dylan mulvaney's life would be saying stop this this is this is not acceptable it's not okay they're being driven
Starting point is 00:50:51 by the tiktok algorithm into like look dylan mulvaney came out in an interview and said how come no one's messaging me to date like clearly the machine is pushing dylan in a direction that regular people are not interested in, and the people who love and care about Dylan, or maybe there's nobody, are not doing anything to help Dylan with. I mean, Mulvaney was even just interviewed in that article where, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:16 she was talking about... I don't think Dylan Mulvaney is trans. Yeah, yeah. That's what I... Sorry, I don't know what we're allowed to say here. This isn't my YouTube channel, so I'm just trying to be extra safe here. Well, let me just say it real quick so you can make your point. Dylan Mulvaney does not, in my view, I'm not a doctor,
Starting point is 00:51:36 exhibit any of the traditional gender dysphoria or AGP or AAP, which is what is typically associated with transgenderism publicly. Dylan Mulvaney made a video singing about looking at his bulge, which is clearly the opposite of AGP or gender dysphoria. It seems like Dylan Mulvaney is just mocking trans people to get views because the algorithm keeps promoting it. Yeah. I mean, look, I think when you have a giant marketing firm that throws somebody like this out into the public eye, the public absolutely has the right to comment on it.
Starting point is 00:52:02 And the public absolutely has to write to say what they think is despicable about it that said i do feel bad i mean i i feel bad for him because this is someone who's clearly got something wrong with them this is not normal healthy behavior in general well i i i i think i gotta say i half agree okay but continue i'm not saying that there's no agency there. I'm saying someone has something wrong with them. And you made this point about no one being in their life who cares about them. I remember a long time ago, I had a friend who was watching some of these American Idol cringe compilations where someone who is really bad at singing is intentionally selected to
Starting point is 00:52:40 be on the show so they can sing poorly and the audience can laugh. That's how it works. And that's, yeah, what he said was, I don't think these people have anyone in their life who loves them and that's essentially what we're seeing they're not enough to give not necessarily truth for the american idol thing and it's it's so many other facets of life there are people who are they genuinely think their friend can sing they're like you, you're so good. You should go. Yeah. And then they go.
Starting point is 00:53:07 And so I've had friends who've tried it for American Idol. And when they explained to me the process, they were like, oh, like all the bad singers you see, half the time, they're not even in the room with the judges. What they'll do is they'll record the bad singers in front of a camera. And then they do a cut that makes it look like the judges are in the same room but they're not they're watching a video screen of it so they're not actually saying but sometimes they are and that means that the producers go to the bad singer and say we want you to sing in front of the judges it's intentionally done i think for dylan mulvaney you said there's something
Starting point is 00:53:39 something wrong with him i don't necessarily i think it's i think it's total agency i think what's what's wrong with Dylan is narcissistic personality disorder. I think everything that Dylan is doing is an active choice to pretend to be trans. And there's more evidence suggests that Dylan is faking it. Ali London has produced previous interviews and recordings showing that Dylan Mulvaney has lied about when he was transitioning and other trans people have come out on YouTube videos saying Dylan is clearly not taking estrogen despite saying on two different occasions that he had started taking it at two different times.
Starting point is 00:54:11 So not only does he contradict himself, but these other trans YouTubers have said it doesn't look like he's even taking estrogen at all based on his body. It makes it even more bizarre to me because Dylan did undergo serious plastic surgery right like it makes this i think that they've explained that no no no that's been explained too apparently i don't know if this is true but people have pointed out that dylan did not get facial
Starting point is 00:54:34 hair removal just facial slimming which is not that can easily is more easily reversed meaning if dylan ever decided just to go about living not as a woman or whatever, or doing this publicly, Dylan would very quickly look male again. I mean, but what if this is over? Like this Bud Light or Budweiser thing came out to mark 365 days of girlhood, right? This one year mark
Starting point is 00:54:58 is when all of this happened. What if in another week, Dylan comes out and is like, I tried it, but you guys are so hateful i'm just gonna go live as a man and you guys are bigoted and terrible at this point the corporations are taking full advantage of him and i you know but no one's gonna want to touch him at this point right but tim brought up the point that he hasn't posted in how what three weeks since the seventh so so it's been a while like you said he was consistently posting but i what i view with this
Starting point is 00:55:25 whole entire thing is again corporations taking advantage of mentally ill people and i don't say that in you know like i mean yeah in a disparaging way i'm not trying to be hateful here when i say that but yeah very clearly if you are cross-dressing if you think that this is how women behave if you think that this is normal behavior in society and a lot of people do because we've hyped it up instead of telling people the truth, which is why you have all of those viral clips of Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles when they do speak to transgender people
Starting point is 00:55:50 because they're very clearly telling them the truth. And the transgender community can never argue their points properly as to what it does feel like to be a woman. I can't even explain what it feels like to be a woman. And I am a woman because it's not a feeling. It's something that you're born with, right? You're either a man or a woman. There's no reference point yeah exactly and so this is just corporations taking
Starting point is 00:56:09 full advantage of uh easily manipulated people tim i was talking with you about the united airlines transgender that was platformed given all of the affirmation put into an advertisement and ended up offing themselves because of, I don't know, whatever pressure. And, you know, I was actually in front of SCOTUS for the Trans Day of Vengeance that got canceled as well. I was speaking to a transgender woman who was basically saying, oh, yeah, I self-harm to get attention because I want to be visible. And that's why the trans community commits self-harm. I think this is one of the big issues with what we're seeing with Dylan Mulvaney.
Starting point is 00:56:51 First, that what I see in Dylan Mulvaney is narcissistic sociopathy, not gender dysphoria. The people who are experiencing gender dysphoria, they're not doing what Dylan Mulvaney does, dancing around in the woods in high heels and singing. Look at my bulge over and over again and keeping facial hair and other things like that and what's happening is these big tech platforms, like Jack Dorsey said all those years ago, were concerned about suicide rates. So they started offering up social media protections for these people, which was then quickly exploited by people who want fame and attention but don't want to get any penalties. So let me explain it this way.
Starting point is 00:57:23 If you post right wing memes on social media, let's say before Elon Musk bought Twitter, you were banned. Carpe donctum was banned and broke no rules, but you don't post those memes. But if so, how do you exploit human emotion for clicks and views and avoid getting banned? You do it from the left. The easiest path is exactly what Dylan Mulvaney is doing. The algorithm proves it when you look at dylan's earliest content it was animals it was dylan on the price is right and then when dylan made a trans video boom that's when he started getting traffic started getting fame and he chased after it well remember the video too that came out where he was like oh i can't find any roles as uh i can't even remember what he said but he was basically like oh my friend wrote a role for me as a more like trans feminine person
Starting point is 00:58:09 and you know again like he has been trying to adhere to this he did find fame in this and it does seem like he has stuck to this and he is really uh you know taking it as far as he can yeah i think the issue with that was that uh d Dylan had previously said that they were trans, deleted the video, and then later, once again, came out as trans. Like the whole thing was staged as like it was a fake coming out. I guess one thing I'll say about this is that I don't even like being exposed to this. The fact that kids are exposed to this is what bothers me. That's TikTok. So do we ban TikTok? So the legislation that Republicans were pushing to ban TikTok, from what I understand, did some other things that we might not be in love with.
Starting point is 00:58:51 But I think that there is a real question to explore there about banning TikTok. I would not be against it on principle. You'd have to show me good legislation. I really am for it. I think the legislation is how do we do it is the issue. But I think it is a good idea. I think the legislation is, how do we do it is the issue, but I think it is a good idea. I think we should, yeah. But you would have to give me something that really banned it instead of lying to me. If we look at what TikTok really is,
Starting point is 00:59:14 it's China subverting our country. That is what it is, point blank. Again, you guys have talked about this multiple times. What are the children in China targeted with on TikTok versus the children in the United States of America? It's like night and day. So it is the subversion of the country. Let's clarify. They don't actually have TikTok in China. They have something similar called something else.
Starting point is 00:59:33 And it does. But owned by the same company that owns TikTok, right? I'm not entirely sure. Maybe, maybe. I just know that. Well, aren't all companies in China basically controlled by the CCP anyway? So it's all over the same government between like november and january this wave of like 25 governors who were like you are not allowed to have tiktok on a state-owned device because part of the user agreement is that
Starting point is 00:59:53 it can collect all this data including whatever else you have on your computer like your browsing data and things like that so like if you are a government employee and you have some sort of like someone who works at the dmv right and they're pulling up whatever and then they decide to watch tiktok on their computer like they have now exposed your data to this this company that has to report data to the the ccp under a 2017 national intelligence law yeah like i don't really think that we need this and i know people say like oh free speech things like that like build a competitor have something else like i'm not saying you can't say the things that you say on TikTok. I just don't want that technology that is serving a different entity. It's not serving the people of the United States
Starting point is 01:00:31 in the country. Yeah. Well, also, freedom of speech does not mean that foreign adversaries are able to collect data on all of your intelligence officials and your government and your citizens. But see, the problem is our own corrupt government that is instead of fixing the subversion by the Chinese problem, is instead saying, here's the Patriot Act 2.0. We are going to instead fix this problem, use it to further come down on your constitutional rights. So classic government once again. Let's talk about things that we can do.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Let me pull up this story from the New York Post. Bud Light suffers staggering 17% sales plunge amid Dylan Mulvaney controversy. The latest sales data from Nielsen IQ and Bump Williams Consulting show that Bud Light sales fell 17% in dollars while volume dropped a whopping
Starting point is 01:01:16 21%. Wow. Wow. Wow. Yo, this has got some feathers ruffled up. YouTube started taking down videos and this is what I said. My opinion on. Yo, this has got some feathers ruffled up. That's huge. YouTube started taking down videos. And this is what I said. My opinion on the matter, opinion, is that the sales decline was bad. And Anheuser-Busch got angry and went to YouTube and said, why are we advertising on your platform if it is loaded with people ragging on us?
Starting point is 01:01:41 And so I think Bud Light was like, take these videos down. YouTube took down what they could. They didn't issue any strikes on channels. Why? That would cost them even more money. I think, well, I think we're going to see that in the next report, it's going to be comparable in terms of sales, sales decline. And then it will, it will, uh, the sales decline will reduce. So let me explain. In the first week when sales declined, it was like, I think 8% or something. So if they've got a hundred, let's just do the hypothetical number, 100 units of beer sold this week, drops by 8%. Now it's 92.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Next week, it goes from 92 to let's just say, I don't know, 81. And they report the drop now is 10%, but it's still around the same amount of beers, a little bit more. What's going to happen is if they declined by 21 beers this past week, when the same number of beers decline, it's going to be a...
Starting point is 01:02:37 Actually, I think I got the math wrong. My point is it's going to look like the decline is easing off because the boycott will reach a point that it's enough of the market share has been removed. If 20% of people no longer buy beer, then Bud Light's market cap will drop by 20% and stay there. And once it stabilizes 20% lower, they will say the boycott's over,
Starting point is 01:03:00 the decline in sales has ended, despite the fact what really happened is no one is coming back to buy their beer. Yeah right and you know what i will say too i actually am proud proud of the right wing for you know sticking it sennheiser bush and actually sending this message because typically in the past i feel like we get angry about things but we're internet warriors and that's about it so i mean seeing the pushback on this uh has been great and uh i think it has sent a message to a lot of other corporations as well. And they're going to start being more careful about
Starting point is 01:03:30 what they're advertising. Yeah. So I actually did a cartoon about this a while ago called What the Media Thinks Right-Wingers Are Versus What They Actually Are. And the joke we were basically making with it, you know, can go feel free to check that out, Freedom Tunes. But the point we're making with the video is they paint conservatives out to be this highly motivated terror threat when conservatives can't even get people to boycott things it's like yes i'm going to give my life in a fiery blaze to commit an act of terror and then it's like hey how about we like don't eat the cupcake brand that just issued a commercial which was just two dudes making out it's like but i like the cupcakes and then we see with this fortunately fortunately, my expectations being subverted
Starting point is 01:04:09 and conservatives actually doing something. I think part of it, I mean, I wonder if part of it is that so many people who identify as, you know, as their former marketing person said, like as the fratty, humored, kind of regular guy felt not only isolated from this but then attacked right you're saying i am wrong for not supporting this i think that is uh isolating its base in a way that doesn't make any sense i think it's harder for conservatives to find a unifying product to boycott right like maybe i don't buy the cupcakes already like this was something that people who probably felt specifically attacked were like i'm done i don't buy the cupcakes already like this was something that people who probably felt
Starting point is 01:04:45 specifically attacked were like i'm done i don't think that they felt attacked i think that this is like the sports issue where men are like we don't give a damn about this to be quite honest stop trying to come in with the lgbtq nonsense i'm just trying to watch the nfl i'm just trying to drink a beer why is this getting so out of hand buying nfl tickets like they still go yeah because they like sports right yeah check this out check this out uh so for for anyone who's claiming it's not true bud light's competitors are going up while bud light lost 6.7 percent of market share last week cores and miller light are up 18 percent according to the newsletter a week earlier cores light market share was up 10.6 over the same period miller light was up 11.5
Starting point is 01:05:23 i just i'd love to see it. Shout out to Jesse Kelly, because we mentioned this every time we bring the story up. He said it's the first time his neighbors asked him about politics, the Dylan Mulvaney thing. I think there might be something to it where you've got dudes who feel uncool to buy Bud Lite at this point. And so let's break this down in terms of marketing terms. Let's pull out of politics. The sponsorship of Dylan Mulvaney created the perception that the beer was for young, effeminate men. So already you've got this trope where if you're drinking Bud Light, you're not manly.
Starting point is 01:05:54 I mean, I don't know about you guys, but back in Chicago, if you went to a bar with your friends in order to Bud Light, they would laugh. Yeah, I was going to say, I felt like that perception was already there, but I guess we get punched in the back of the head because you ordered like bud light was for when you're just trying to get drunk at a party nobody cared but if you were actually going to have a beer to hang out at the game they'd be like you bought bud light like dude get modelo at least i mean it's another anheuser-busch beer but get like a real beer get out get a heineken or get stella or something but bud light so now you've got dudes who are going to show up to the party
Starting point is 01:06:26 and they'll be like, I don't want to. It's going to be embarrassing. They basically made it embarrassing for men to drink beer with this marketing campaign. I think it's funny too, because the boys always love banding together over stuff that they deem gay. Not saying, you know, I just,
Starting point is 01:06:39 I think that this is great. No, I'm saying it's 40 year old men who don't want to look gay. Yeah. In the literal sense, they don't want to be gay yeah in the literal sense they they don't want to be viewed as weak or effeminate yeah i don't drink bud light or anything well they don't want to subtly signal they're like affiliated with this in any way right and now if you offer it
Starting point is 01:06:55 to someone who came to your home like if you have a co-worker you're inviting over you don't know them well you're like can i have you give you a bud light like this is no one wants to be like this is the meme they've created this is the meme Bud Light created with sponsoring Dylan Mulvaney. Guys like you are already seeing the left champion Bud Light and the right say Bud Lights bad. So what's going to happen is you are going to have people at pride parades cracking Bud Light. And it's it's a it's a whirlpool for Anheuser-Busch. There is no escape for what you have done to your brand. The left will champion bud light
Starting point is 01:07:25 it will be the the markings of gay pride parades of pride nights and conservatives and regular people are going to be like i don't i don't want to do all that so they went from being a generic alcohol get drunk beer to a leftist activist political brand that people aren't going to want to associate with i will say i don't drink beer really, but I hit a point where I was like, I have to know how to order. Like I have to have a brand name to say when somebody says, do you want a beer? And I pretty much always order Yinglings because I know they donated to Donald Trump's campaign. I was like, good enough.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Here we go. I'm not enough of an acquired taste to be able to scrutinize it. I don't know if it's good or bad beer. It's fine. And it doesn't immediately like I don't I know that I good or bad beer. It's fine. And it doesn't immediately, like I don't, I know that I am supporting a cause that I'm at least pretty much okay with, right?
Starting point is 01:08:09 Like I wouldn't buy these beers because now it's affiliated with a whole conversation I don't want to be a part of. Yeah, if I'm getting like a cheap, light beer, then Yingling's my go-to for that exact reason. But is Yingling really light? It's not really that light.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Well, to me it is. Why? Were you like old English or like Guinness? well well you've actually yeah yeah i like who drinks ipa i'm not now hold on you said guinness i do i'll have an ipa sometimes but guinness is good though i think i just want to see i'm not a beer guy i just want this summer to be like the summer of the small brewery like everyone's like i can't buy bud light okay i'm going to get that like one that's on the corner. My friend's buddy bottles it. I ordered, I think I ordered
Starting point is 01:08:49 while we were live, 600 cans of conservative dad's ultra right beer. Nice. Nice. That's what it's called. Dude, you just Google conservative beer
Starting point is 01:08:59 and you're like, that's the one? No, no, it's Seth Weathers. He put a video on Twitter where he smashed a Bud Light with a baseball bat and said, stay the F away from our kids. We should have just been like, this beer's Seth Weathers. He put a video on Twitter where he smashed a Bud Light with a baseball bat and said, stay the F away from our kids.
Starting point is 01:09:07 We should have just been like, this beer is filled with testosterone, boys. I remember, yeah, I don't know who, again, it was a stupid marketing campaign. Because Bud Light went from a kind of meaningless name, you know, I just want something cheap into like, this this is no one was like yeah that's my brand of beer it's like i remember when that's why their sales are dropping there's no loyalty to bud light exactly well you exactly if exactly um okay wait i gotta interject i gotta interject i'm sorry to cut you off but i feel like am i being woman interrupted you are i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm using my privilege to speak over you. I feel like in hockey culture, Bud Light is a big thing.
Starting point is 01:09:46 But also take a peek at who is pushing back against the Pride Knights right now. It's hockey players specifically. So Bud Light is big in hockey. But hockey is also the most outspoken against the LGBTQ nonsense. And a lot of places like the hockey arena is just like a sports arena. They just put down the ice. You know, that's how it is in Dallas. I think that is what i'm finding most interesting because when they're saying the volume like what people are ordering going down it means that uh certain restaurants
Starting point is 01:10:13 or like venues or whatever no they are not going to be able to sell stuff so they're not even going to order it yeah and that's pretty crazy but it makes sense because why would you waste your money on it well and so i guess my point was just that i used to see it like okay you have the very very low tier where you're dealing with like rolling rock and keystone and then slightly above that is sort of where bud light is but not bud lights just below all of it for me i'm never ever drinking it again i mean look i wouldn't drink bud light i just don't like i'm not gonna drink chorus lighter miller light or miller or budweiser i've just always viewed them as like generic garbage beer who do you think you are?
Starting point is 01:10:48 I'm already seeing the videos on Instagram too because I don't have TikTok but I'll see like the TikToks that get posted on Instagram of men like doing blind beer taste tests and they drink all of them and they guess them and then when they get to Bud Light they talk in this like really effeminate voice that's hilarious
Starting point is 01:11:02 they're getting like millions of likes wow really? Yeah, it's really funny. They destroyed their brand. They really did. People are making fun of it all the time. And it's all these men, like they drink a Bud Light
Starting point is 01:11:12 and they immediately, and it's just, it's hilarious. Dude, and so the question is, is anyone going to want to sponsor Dylan Mulvaney after this? This is the algorithmic mistake. These are, Dylan Mulvaney after this? This is the algorithmic mistake. These are Dylan Mulvaney's popularity is completely rooted in a robot randomly choosing Dylan Mulvaney videos to show the big brands then saying
Starting point is 01:11:32 this gets view sponsor it. And now their brand is ruined. I think they will because there's a lot of brands like Nike, which conservatives were so mad at Dylan Mulvaney for having this, you know, I thought we were mad about Colin Kaepernick. Yeah. Cause we tried to boycott that once upon a time. Conservatives were so mad at Dylan Mulvaney for having this, you know. I thought we were mad about Colin Kaepernick. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:11:45 Because we tried to boycott them once upon a time and then we fell off the wagon. We were supposed to be mad about, you know, Nike enslaving children and then using the child labor to make, you know, their products. But Dylan Mulvaney is why we're mad at Nike. It's like conservatives have the memory of a goldfish. I'm not going to lie to you guys. But anyways, the companies that are already all in on dei and are already woke and know that their i guess their customer base is going to be more behind them because they're supporting a
Starting point is 01:12:12 dylan mulvaney type who's been demonized by the evil right wing i could see that i think instead of yeah but small brands no yeah no of course not no well no small brands wait no big brand is gonna do it no i think it's literally sorry I think it's literally all going to be what you said, which is these brands that have carved themselves out in the market as a progressive option. And they're going to go, can you believe how people treated that poor Dylan, that sweet angelic soul? And they'll put him all over their branding. And then they'll be the ones who say Dylan when Bud Light turned their back.
Starting point is 01:12:44 People are saying to boycott Maybelline and Nike and all that stuff and it doesn't work the same way because women want to look like Dylan Mulvaney. No. No. That is not a lie. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. If I was wrong, women would be boycotting all these products, but they're not. No, no. So hold on, hold on. So I'm going to make sure I tell If I was wrong, women would be boycotting all these products, but they're not. Hold on. I'm going to make sure I tell all of these feminists who are defending Nike and Budweiser, I'm going to tell them,
Starting point is 01:13:14 you do look a lot like Dylan Mulvaney. If they're insulted by that, that is on them. They're a transphobe. My point is this. They're my point. They're a transphobe. I think part of it. My point is this. They're not offended. They have a man. You see the ad campaign of the guy wearing a bra and panties?
Starting point is 01:13:31 No. Oh, gosh. That was horrible. It's a man wearing a bra. And it's a company. It's like they announced they're going to make bras for males. And then all these women are like, men don't need bras, though. Like, men don't need bras.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Like, they don't have boobs. But they're doing it anyway women overwhelmingly are more in favor of these political views in these things yeah because we're more emotional absolutely we're easily i also think so it may be that that conservative women don't want to look like dylan mulvaney and it may be that privately these liberal men don't want to look like dylan mulvaney but they clearly really do resonate and support Dylan. So I think it's a compliment to tell them they do look like Dylan Mulvaney. Well, you know that liberal women lie to themselves,
Starting point is 01:14:11 and that's their entire persona. So of course they would say, yeah, I want to look like Dylan Mulvaney. And it's virtue signaling, right? Exactly. They want to seem like they're the most accepting. I feel like I'm a Dylan Mulvaney accelerationist, though, because the feminists are starting to get pissed off now.
Starting point is 01:14:27 And I'm like, yeah, accelerate, go into our bathrooms, take over our sports. How bad does it need to get? And it is getting bad and people are finally waking up. But it does take the average person being personally affected, which maybe there were a lot of Bud Light drinkers and that was them being personally affected. And that's why it was such a big campaign. But yeah, it does need to get worse. So I'm kind of a Mulvaney accelerationist, to be quite honest with you. It's very bizarre, like because of feminism and because of the disunity between the sexes we see as a result of quote unquote sexual liberation,
Starting point is 01:14:55 women are taught by this culture to be relentlessly critical of men until that man puts a dress on. And then you just have to gush about everything they do. And you see this, you guys were mentioning earlier, they want to claim that they see this person as pretty, but they don't just say pretty. The most beautiful woman I've ever seen. And they're all over the top and losing their minds over how beautiful they are. And you can tell. This is clearly so put on.
Starting point is 01:15:20 But hold on. Is there something to women wanting to submit yeah is that the argument you're making is it built into the female nature or something that's so weird no what i'm saying is that the argument is yeah no there is women are saying to men you two men are more beautiful than us are better at sports than us and it's okay and acceptable it's not a submission thing it's a fact that women as a whole are not naturally combative. So if a man comes into the space and says, I'm a woman now, I'm better than you, and I'm going to take away your rights, by the way, and if you combat me, you're a bigot and you're getting canceled. The average woman is not going to push not be combative is to be more naturally submissive yeah i think that's part of it i also think that because women are more emotional and they're guided to do things like it makes me think about like i don't even think this happens to middle school boys or middle school boys at all but girls are like don't
Starting point is 01:16:18 gang up on other girls be nice to them like be inclusive because they go through a really terrible catty phase as part of their neurological development but it means that when dylan mulvaney is like i'm a girl women are conditioned to be like great like we'll we're supposed to be nice and accept you we are supposed to tolerate this we're supposed to be welcoming and inclusive like these sort of uh progressive emotional appeals really reach women because women are already conditioned to live in a more emotional place than men which can be beneficial to society. But in this case, it's basically them getting taken advantage of, right? They are being manipulated by this person who does not have true ties to their community and they are not willing to oust him. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:16:59 It scared you. I'm sorry. No, it's okay. That's how mad she is about Dylan Maloney. I know. She's so angry. I shocked the UFO out of circulation. You knocked the plug out. you i'm sorry that was okay that's how mad she is about dylan i know she's so angry i shocked the ufo out of circuit oh well i i think part of what happens too is women want to support femininity and they're confused about exactly what's going on if i cheer on the trans women am i supporting femininity or am i or am i supporting men taking things that are meant
Starting point is 01:17:23 for women and that's sort of where the delineation is between most feminists and then what they call turfs but it could just be that women tend to be more collectivist than men they absolutely are look at the fat acceptance movement i went to victoria's secret the other day there was a morbidly obese model modeling the underwear up front and it's like okay why are we platforming somebody who's clearly unhealthy have you ever seen right have you ever seen one of those advertisements where they're like any type of body and then you go to look at the program you're like i don't think i want to buy this thing because it doesn't look good like there is a reason that you pick attractive people to model clothing it makes you think oh this might look nice like i can't tell if this
Starting point is 01:17:55 looks good at all because this person is not in it's all politics nowadays though right so bud light went political and they've just turned their brand into the left-wing brand and now people on the right don't want to buy it well it's it's it's complicated though because one thing i've noticed with women in this culture and with just the fallen human nature you know men and women are different we have different strengths and weaknesses and one thing you see with women and i don't know if this is cultural or if this is biological, but they often will scorn other women for making choices that help them to better themselves. And they will cheer other women on when they do things that are self-destructive. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:18:32 So when a woman posts, exactly, a woman posts, I've been working out. I look better than I ever look, have looked in my entire life. And especially if she says she's doing this to make her husband happy, she is torn to shreds. But when a woman says, I am sleeping around and getting as out of shape as possible because who cares? And just choosing the immediate short term, there's going to be so many women in the comment section clapping for her, whereas they tear down women who are trying to build themselves up. It's a very sad thing. I don't think it's who cares. It's because I love myself. I want to live this way. I want to live under self-indulgent. I personally feel like it's not necessarily, I think that it's who cares it's because i love myself i want to live this way i want to live under self-indulgent
Starting point is 01:19:05 i personally feel like it's not necessarily i think that it's a generational issue and i think this is what happens when third wave feminism opened the door to being like women need to compete with men in a platform in a lot of ways that are unhealthy them like the reason that the transgender movement uh is overwhelmingly the appeal is towards women is because they're saying like after so many years of saying like you have the same quality as men so therefore you should get to be in the workforce we are saying the same thing we have the same quality as women so let us into your bathroom well see and i think one of the best points that continues to drive this home is the fact that men are not dealing with women in their spaces, taking over their spaces. And again, that does go into
Starting point is 01:19:46 our gender role that does go into emotionally and biologically, just how women respond to things, we are more easily manipulated, that's been seen time and time again. And on top of that, like add to the point that we are a culture that is already, you know, via the education system, trained to be subservient, trained to listen to the authorities. When you have corporations, politicians, the entire government backing transgenderism and saying that if you come out against it, that you're a horrible, awful person,
Starting point is 01:20:14 that you're a bad Christian. We even have churches coming forward now and, you know, pushing this ideology that is inherently anti-biblical. Like twisting their own theology. Exactly. Or just throwing it out. And then the average woman just goes along and says, okay says okay well i don't want to be combative of this
Starting point is 01:20:29 and you know like you said we also have a lack of strong men in society that are willing to put women in their place and that might be like a very you know a brash thing to say but i think that's where we're at right now i just i disagree there's tons of strong men that are willing to put women in their place and they're on all on the left. Ooh. Still in moving. But the thing is, though, because the left doesn't know what a woman's place is. These corporate executives are telling women what to like and what to buy, and the women are saying yes, and they're buying it, and they tend to be male executives. And the right—look, I'll tell you this.
Starting point is 01:21:02 We have women come on this show, and conservative women will say, repeal the 19th Amendment. Where do you stand, Hannah Claire Brimelow, repealing the 19th Amendment? I'd be for it, but I don't trust the men in this generation. So it's hard to say. Where are you on removing women's right to vote? I've looked at the demographics and if I had to give up my one vote to 100 psychopathic, emotional, manipulated women couldn't vote, then I would. Yeah. And it's always the conservative guys who go, no, no, women should vote.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Women should vote. My point is, on the right, the guys are saying, women can choose what they want to choose. On the left, they're saying, look at this picture of a man in a bra. That's what women should look like. And women go, okay. Well, but I think, let me analogize this further.
Starting point is 01:21:39 It's that the men are abdicating and then the women are speaking to the serpent. And this goes back to Genesis. The serpent didn't go to Adam, it went to Eve. And Adam abdicating and then the women are speaking to the serpent, right? And this goes back to Genesis. The serpent didn't go to Adam. It went to Eve. And Adam abdicated by not saying, why is my wife talking to a snake? And so- He said, talking to snake is fine.
Starting point is 01:21:54 Yeah, exactly. And so- I don't want to be controlling. I don't want to be in her business. And so that's what we see where they are telling women to do something that will not make women happy and to do things that won't make them happy. And then men aren't there to say, don't listen to that idiot. And then what happened was afterwards, Eve made that TikTok about being a polycule with a snake.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Stop it. No, I think it's right, though. I think it's not just even men. Like, I think women could be more honest with each other. Yes. If you didn't comment on that video, oh my gosh, you look amazing. Yay. Like you would not be contributing to this group delusion
Starting point is 01:22:31 that we're all entering into, right? And I want to clarify too about my put women in their place. I don't think you could, but I thought it was great. I think that like you said, if you have a group of women and you have one man that comes in and says, no, that's dumb, that's stupid. The entire group of women is going to be
Starting point is 01:22:46 like oh is it stupid you know I worked in an all female office once we had to interview for a new candidate and someone was like oh guys we've got these resumes and maybe we should interview this man the head of the office was like no we don't want to interview a man I don't want a man here because it was like chaotic it's terrible
Starting point is 01:23:02 working in an all female office I think if the man was attractive the woman might behave that way if them if a thousand percent yeah if the women were of the collective opinion the man was desirable they would be competing for him and if they're of the collective opinion that the man is undesirable they would be like oh no i'm not gonna listen to that guy i think women more so do things for themselves than they do for men right like the saying is women wear makeup for women, not for men. Women get dressed up for women, not for men. There's that famous tweet where a woman said,
Starting point is 01:23:31 male privilege is being able to wear the same clothes every day without anyone criticizing you. And a guy responded with, that's women criticizing you. Literally no man cares if you wear the same cute dress twice. Ever, ever. Right. Literally not a single man has right literally women do all of this for other women not for men the only kind of man who cares is like generally not attracted to women
Starting point is 01:23:50 and you see that a lot they talk about the the unfair um the unfair standards that the fashion industry places on when it's like yes the fashion industry notorious for just testosterone filled heterosexual men being in control of everything and all the fashion trends of course yeah yeah so i i think when it comes to the guy who comes in and says something, the real question is that the guy, it's whether the women agree among themselves that the guy is an authority or isn't an authority, is attractive or isn't attractive. So if they respect him and find him interesting. If a chiseled six foot three guy came in and the women all were just like he is bad for this reason then they
Starting point is 01:24:26 would like ew no yeah i i agree he's bad and if he was really nasty and ugly this is this is why left-wing guys are the way they are right-wing guys are the way they are i well i would add something else though i think that if a man is really disciplined the women will respect him for it and that's something people miss it's not just about like height or appearance or weight there's something to okay this is someone i actually know can get things done and lead me i i i don't know if i agree completely i think social pressure is the biggest factor for for most humans on most things men tend to be more disagreeable and that's going to result in them being more individualist and women tend to be more agreeable meaning they're going to result in them being more individualist. And women tend to be more agreeable, meaning they're going to be more collectivist.
Starting point is 01:25:06 I think that makes it so, sorry. Hold on. This is, hold on a second. We're talking about male-female dynamics and you're trying to interrupt me here? I would just say. Explain women to me, Shatner. No, yes, I'm going to. There is an inbuilt social pressure.
Starting point is 01:25:20 There's social pressure, but there's an inbuilt social pressure. And what a lot of people don't recognize is that authority is not external. It's actually built into human beings. We have a desire based on our biology and innate understanding that certain people are supposed to be in charge in certain situations. And we look for different traits that would indicate that that person should be in charge in any given context. And so women will look to men to make decisions or be the authority on things very often.
Starting point is 01:25:41 Right. I also think if you have an un unmarried woman who's like life revolves around her social circles or her friends in order to get her to move away from that into marriage and whatever else she has to really trust you and respect you like the things that women need to leave the social collective are a strong uh secure man who they can rely on they won't do it otherwise that's why we have a lot of dysfunctional relationships because they're people are in relationships where there's not a balance of uh where the dad's a stay-at-home dad and the mom is bringing home the bacon or well it's it's oftentimes i mean yes that is that is a particularly uh let's call it
Starting point is 01:26:19 interesting subversion but what happens a lot of the time is women will end up usurping without being able to abdicate. So they will take on male privileges, but also male responsibilities without losing the female responsibilities. So she's still very much going to be the one dealing with the children. And that's because innately women are biologically better predisposed to deal with children. Like they can actually help feed and nourish feed them with their body so the idea that we're just going to do this swapperoo where in our relationship it works for him to do the more feminine things and me to do the more masculine things no you're still going to get stuck doing the feminine things because he literally can't do those and you can't do the masculine things as well as you think either
Starting point is 01:27:01 like carrying bricks and stuff it's exactly exactly like email marketing and fire firing and fighting bears fighting bears you do need to be able to do that yeah you know back in the day you did you did nowadays i think the point we're making here though is that uh again just the subversion of the gender roles and the complete destruction of those have created such just an unsatisfactory society for everybody involved and that's why everything is in such disarray because i feel like we have gotten so far away from from morals from values from just being normal people to be quite honest to put it plainly well go ahead i'll let you go this time thank you so much for the permission to speak seamus i am so glad that you're here i definitely
Starting point is 01:27:41 don't you're welcome carlson I mean, I think part of it is we're asking everyone to go against their natural inclinations and instincts, right? And so no wonder by the end of this, and like I said, I think it's generational. I think this has been a pressure cooker for a long time. By the minute, people are like, I don't even really think I'm supposed to be the gender that I was born into because how do I know I'm supposed to feel anything? Like all of my instincts are probably wrong and they can't see the nuance between like you'll hear so often like well our son was really interested in his sister's barbies maybe he just likes hanging out with his sister it doesn't mean it like he's a child doesn't mean anything and instead we've made it like we're
Starting point is 01:28:16 constantly looking for signs that people are outside they're different and we accept them anyways instead of saying like you're normal and that's actually awesome i'm so happy that you're normal you know what i realized though in the age of social media uh i i honestly think that the transgender and lgbtq craze is the direct result of the fact that anybody can get attention on social media nowadays it's very easy so now you have to go to much more extreme lengths to get more attention and to be more famous and to be on the top. And that's why we've also gotten to the point where we've gotten to because people continue to feel the need to compete with who's the coolest, who's the most unique, who's the most extreme. I need to stand out and I will do anything to do it. Yeah, I think it goes even
Starting point is 01:28:59 deeper than that, though. The first thing I want to say is relevant to the comment you made about people being punished for being natural. I've noticed this so often when someone calls something based or red pilled it's just someone saying something normal super normal it's literally just somebody saying something bread that's based bro this girl cooked dinner for her husband that's so based it's like that's just normal i mean that makes you happy i'm glad but let's just say normal. But beyond that, with what you said, social media has exacerbated it, but I think it goes much deeper. The advent of reliable methods of artificial contraceptive have completely changed society in ways that no one is willing to discuss or account for, because that's an innovation we're not allowed to criticize. But once we removed the purpose of sex from sex, then the purpose of sex itself, i.e. your biological identity, also stopped having a purpose and started being about you just the way that sex has. So my biological sex exists for me and my pleasure. So why can't it
Starting point is 01:29:56 be whatever I want it to be? Why does it have to fit into a specific role? Why does there have to be a logos to it? It's complete and total self-indulgence culture. Exactly. Indeed. I think we've got some stories for the members-only section, and we should carry on that conversation there, because there's a lot more to be said, but probably better off doing that in the not-so-family-friendly version of the show. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button and become a member at timcast.com so that at about 10, 10 p.m., we'll do that members-only show. And if you sign up at the $25 level or at least,
Starting point is 01:30:25 or you're signed up for at least six months, you can actually call into the show. But we're going to go to super chats right now. So smash that like button. We're going to read what you guys have to say. So before the show started, we got a super chat from Leon Yoder, who said the special guest is Seamus Coughlin.
Starting point is 01:30:40 There was a couple other people who tweeted. When I tweeted, we have a special guest tonight, someone was like, it better be Seamus Coghlan. But everybody was like, Tucker, Elon. Yeah, I'm sorry to disappoint you all. Yeah, it was the best. I told Allison, I was like, they're going to be so disappointed. Tim's like, dude, people, I'm just way overhyped.
Starting point is 01:30:58 You're really going to have to perform. I was like, you're such a good friend, Tim. Thank you. Charlie Duck says, what a crazy day. I can't believe what's going on. It is a really crazy day. Like the whole day was just nuts. Like in my 1 p.m. segment, I'm reading, I'm like, Tucker Carlson is fired.
Starting point is 01:31:13 And then I get a notification right here on the screen from the newsroom saying Don Lemon fired. And I was like, what? And I was laughing, livery. I couldn't help it. I'm just like, this is amazing. The economy is getting really bad. Everyone's getting laid off.
Starting point is 01:31:25 I think there was a CEO of NBC that also got pushed out today too. And one of the White House policy directors got pushed out too. Wow. Yeah, Susan Rice. And Disney's gonna fire
Starting point is 01:31:34 like 4,000 people or something. It really is spring cleaning. That's what this is. Wow. Amazing. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, my guy, yo, that was freaking hilarious
Starting point is 01:31:43 on your 1 p.m. segment when you found out little buddy don limon got fired hilarious good riddance to him yeah i was like i was like i saw the tweet from him because someone posted it and i was like no this can't be real it was some like crudely made meme picture and i'm like is this actually don levy he said we need verification and then we like said new york the link. New York Times, New York Post. It's like, boom, boom, boom, boom. I'm like, wow. This podcast is supported by Talkspace.
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Starting point is 01:33:15 but Tucker Carlson, while being excellent, is not nearly as good as Shimcast. It's a fact. You're allowed to say it. Wow. You just heard Tucker Carlson. You should have shut my camera off while I said that so people could think it was him.
Starting point is 01:33:25 I do want to point out, I can already tell that our viewers today are like 30, 40% more on average. Because you deceived them? No, because Tucker Carlson was taken off the air. What else are they going to watch? Exactly. Yeah, Tucker's gone. They should have been watching this the whole time. No offense to Tucker, but superior show.
Starting point is 01:33:45 I never said Tucker was coming to the show, Seamus. You're my special guest. I always... You've been gone for like a year. It's been 10 months. We were so desperate to have you back, we put a potato in the chair. No, I was like, what is this?
Starting point is 01:33:55 I think that was a hate crime, though. It was a hate crime. My friend texted me while I was out for St. Patrick's Day and he said, you're on TimCast. I was like, what did they do? And then... Just a potato. I looked, I was like,
Starting point is 01:34:06 Timcast, is this some kind of homage to me? And I was like, oh no, they're just insulting my people on our special day. It was St. Patrick's Day. But despite bullying him,
Starting point is 01:34:16 he didn't come back. He's resilient. He's resilient. I'm Irish. I'm allowed to put potatoes in chairs. That's the rule. I think Ian is also Irish. I'm also Irish.
Starting point is 01:34:24 We're all plastic patties, all right? None of us are from Ireland. Oh, cool. Whatever FGC you all are. Joe Biden's Irish. No, Joe Biden's not Irish because no one in his family is drunk or in jail. That's what he said. That is literally what Joe Biden said.
Starting point is 01:34:37 I liked when he went to Ireland and was like, I don't want to go back. We're like, wait, what? Then he went to Ireland. Dude, this man. No, he was in Ireland. He didn't want to go back to can i hope this is the thing it's like all right those are those are jokes you're allowed to make because the irish are white but they got to keep a mic out of joe biden's hand on like cinco de mayo or black history monthly
Starting point is 01:34:55 he's gonna destroy it anytime he's in an industry jill's had a couple scuffles there right throw back to when she called us all tacos that was pretty funny yeah did she really yeah in texas it was not good. She went to Texas and she basically implied that like Hispanic people were breakfast tacos or something. I don't know. Hispanic people got mad about it. I was just like, it's kind of funny, whatever.
Starting point is 01:35:13 It was funny, but it was also like both Bidens. Stop giving them any sort of public speaking engagement. Difficult when you are the first lady and president. They work for each other because they're racist. Goldilocks Productions says Fox has ruined themselves. Now their late night gutfeld show is going to hurt too also it's about time cnn fired that man well look i do think fox news is going to hurt from this and i think it's going to negatively impact a lot of their
Starting point is 01:35:35 key demo viewership substantially what's happening is so so it's creating an opportunity for shows like ours to capture that audience because we have similar conversations that tucker has hannity does not but there are people who probably turn on tucker and then it rolls over into hannity i suspect we'll see ratings drop across the board because they did this well you know so be it good for them do you really think it's gonna hurt uh the gutfeld show though well i i certainly think it does absolutely okay like i said people turn on fox news or tucker and let it roll you know do you guys remember when joe biden said irish kids are just as sober and just as intelligent as white kids i couldn't believe that all right uh alex says but for real
Starting point is 01:36:18 should have changed the logo to tuck cast extra people should be shameless and primetime 99 uh so i reached out to Tucker Carlson's people and I said we will if we have if Tucker can come on the show we'll put up a title card saying Tucker cast IRL and he said only if you fire Seamus and Tim said I won't do it and then that you know they said absolutely we can have him there in in in an hour or so you know and then I said of course Seamus will be here then they didn't respond and then an hour later they got back to me and said i'm sorry we're not available and then wouldn't respond to any more messages and i was just like oh what did i say that's actually not what happened i said tonight tim said that tucker was going to be on i said but tonight's my big night and i stomped my
Starting point is 01:36:57 foot and i was like all right i'll tell them another time all right daniel trinka says ab inbev spending more on marketing for other brands like modelo and the fight and spirit trying to capture anti-woke money from the uninformed yep because i wonder how the sales are for modelo yo i like modelo yeah i love that one yeah modelo's good but bud is not yeah but like but like sucks i've seen enough of the infographics where it's like it's not just bud light it's also all of these that I think they're fighting an uphill battle. I think people are more aware than ever. But of course, some will sneak through.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Well, and this is what's important for you to remember. Even though I think, yes, a total boycott of Anheuser-Busch would be great. I certainly would advocate for that. And I'm not buying their products anymore. When people say boycotts don't work because a parent brand only has this sub-brand and the rest aren't effective what they're missing is a boycott sends the message that the consumers did not like that particular behavior and so the parent brand knows not to try that with their other brands boycott fox yeah i mean that's gonna
Starting point is 01:38:02 be the easiest boycott of my life bro it. It's the only thing I watched was Tucker. Tucker was the only thing I watched on Fox. It's the summer of us watching Rumble and going to local breweries to get beer. What have I ever done differently? When Luke's here, he always, once the show wraps, he always goes and watches Tucker Carlson, which he digitally
Starting point is 01:38:20 downloads or whatever live. And he was getting, do you remember when we were in the car together and this was right after the Eminemem thing and i kept making i kept doing my tucker impression eminems were and luke was getting so angry dude i was riffing for like a half hour like every every night when it got a little quiet like the green eminem is the most attractive thing i've ever seen in my life and then someone looks like stop it man tucker's great i was like i i love tucker too luke but you got to be able to take the jokes. And we were just riffing on Tucker loving M&Ms.
Starting point is 01:38:47 And then... That was a good bit with Bernie. Oh, thank you. There's bull. There's bull. Yeah, if you guys want to watch that cartoon,
Starting point is 01:38:55 Tucker gets mad about the M&Ms. That was a fun one. Tucker cartoons are always fun. And then Ben Shapiro. And it's getting... Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 01:39:03 So Luke is talking... By the way the the wonderful thing about luke not being on the show is you still get to hear all of his opinions in the chat because he sits there and cries the entire time about the fact that i'm there instead of him hey look you see that behind me you see that behind me look at it is luke in the chair right now this is conquered land my friend friend. No longer yours. By the way, if a fan... Because you took down the American flag to put that up?
Starting point is 01:39:28 I would never... Listen, I didn't touch anything, but what I am saying is to the wonderful, incredible fans who make these kinds of things, if anyone wants to just make a papal flag and send that in. Potatoes for Seamus says, Seamus, I came out of the potato field to watch you.
Starting point is 01:39:42 Glad you led us away from the mean Luke for the sea of potatoes to the promised land of taters. I did do that, and I appreciate the credit. Thank you. Luke doesn't even have the decency to super chat. No. He regular chats and then expects me to read them. Well, he's a baby girl. Hey, well, when I super chatted and you didn't read it when Dr. Paul was on.
Starting point is 01:39:59 He said potato people have no souls. See what I mean? It's like, what is potato people supposed to mean? That's some kind of dog whistle, right? He's referring to... Wait a minute. When Luke says potato people, is he talking about... Irish people?
Starting point is 01:40:14 Oh, I'm so much more upset with him than I was before. I thought he was saying something else. Check this out. Powder PZ says, Alex Jones called Tucker leaving Fox months ago when they stopped him from showing the J6 footage. Alex Jones called Tucker leaving Fox months ago when they stopped him from showing the J6 footage. Alex Jones was right again. Wow.
Starting point is 01:40:29 Steve Smith says, I feel bad for Dan Bongino. Fox is going to lean on him so much in the future. Dan Bongino's not at Fox anymore. Yeah. Yeah. He just left recently, right? Last week. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:38 And they thought it was a result of the Dominion lawsuit, right? Or settlement. Is that what it is? Is Bongino Tucker. That's the rumor. I don't have confirmation. All right. OwlingDogDesign says, you're all wrong about the older crowd.
Starting point is 01:40:49 I'm older, been watching Tucker and TimCast at all for years. I'm not aging out of my opinions. I canceled Fox News subscription and paid media today and paid media today IMD? Maybe there's a typo in there. But we're not saying all older crowd. The fact
Starting point is 01:41:06 is, Tucker's audience, 3.3 million, only about 400,000 or 500,000 are in the key demographic, meaning you've got 2.5 million people who are older than 55 who watch Tucker Carlson regularly. Our audience is like 70-80%,
Starting point is 01:41:22 what is it, 24-45. And then we have some like teenage like 18 to 24 and then some 55 plus but it's mostly in the key demo granted we don't get three million views we you know we get i think we average like half a million per day on the show from like 300 and something on youtube and then 100 and something on the podcast. And then we get, with the clips, like 800 to a million. I think they mean they did it immediately. They did it immediately. So as soon as they saw that, they canceled the Fox News subscription.
Starting point is 01:41:53 Oh, immediately. Right, right, I see what you're saying. Luke, without super chatting, had the gall to say, Seamus is the older crowd, he's 50. Luke, I'm way younger than you. Hold on, I just turned 28, he's 50? Yeah, Luke's like than you hold on i just turned 28 he's 50 yeah luke's like luke's an old man luke is like in his 90s luke is like literally in his night he's an old man
Starting point is 01:42:13 carl says with fox now out of the way you can get tucker on timcast all we got to do is if you know tucker carlson tell him we want to have him on the show and we'll we'll get him out here i mean uh so my understanding is we reached out to his people they said they talked to him directly and put in their quest and that's all we can do is now uh go on the show and beg and pray that tucker will grace us by appearing on the on the podcast talk about a great show yeah what if he comes on with elon we'll just have a double feature day geez yeah if tucker was here that would be that would be incredible so how do we get elon Elon and Tucker to be on the same show? Well, they just did the interview together.
Starting point is 01:42:49 Maybe they're on the phone right now deciding. They're waiting to be asked together. Yeah, you never know. They could. Maybe they're like, I will not do it. Or maybe they're like, I won't do it if Hannah Clare is there. That's for sure. Look, I think I would be told, you know, take the night off.
Starting point is 01:43:02 I don't think Tim would do that to you. I respect the show enough to say, like, if I have to give up my seat for Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk, I'll do it. See what we meant about women being more deferential? This is... Oh, yeah. Seamus actually threatened me with violence. That's right. That's why, you know,
Starting point is 01:43:18 that's how you get victory. I'm sorry. Unfortunately, the American military industrial complex is on your side with that one, Seamus. But no, no, I think we've got plenty of seats here. We got plenty of seats. We could easily peaceably accommodate our good friends, Elon and Tucker. All right.
Starting point is 01:43:34 What do we got here? Rob says, Tim, now is your chance to partner up with some local distilleries that have the same values as us and get your liquor license. I'll create an entire cocktail menu inspired by our mutual beliefs of individual freedom. Chris Carr did that. Yeah, our editor-in-chief slash head bartender. Yeah, he made a whole big culture war menu and it's actually really good. You should tweet at him and get his recipes.
Starting point is 01:43:56 As for local breweries and distilleries, we've been talking to local breweries and we were actually talking with one about doing a signature uh brew but um we got to get the space up and running we got to get a liquor license and then we would have our own signature beer that'd be very cool the what do you what do you call it though we have cast brew coffee and what's the other one cast brew beer you have to have a potato man's lager or something uh is that i that's permission to use your likeness. You said it live, so... No, I take it back.
Starting point is 01:44:29 You can't do that to me, Tim! Dr. Seamus Coghlan's hair growth formula. We should combine... You should combine Forza with Freedom Tunes and have it be Dr. Mac. Just Dr. Mac's my news reporter who's basically just my voice. And he's a bad Irish person.
Starting point is 01:44:44 I think it's funny to have Dr. Coghlan andlan and a picture of you in an old-timey suit. Ooh. You know? Dr. Coghlan's hair growth time. Can I have, like, a monocle? Yes. Perfect. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:58 All right. Let's see. Captain Caveman says, Tucker was obviously fired over the $787 million Dominion settlement. Maybe. That may have been a component of it. I'm not entirely sure though a lot a lot of things a lot of things all right sterling michael says any millennials realize that trump is still commander-in-chief by military law it's public information if you know where to look that's not true what are you talking about what first of all go to patriot.blogspot.wordpress.com
Starting point is 01:45:25 and you will see that he is literally still the commander-in-chief yeah he's literally not he's a private citizen no he's still that's why january 6th was so horrible because that's how he kept power of the military it was a coup tim it was an insurrection it was a ray epps insurrection that's right well i mean he's in charge now is that is that defamation i mean look people are saying that ray epps might sue News, but like he's on video saying to go into the Capitol. So it's like, well, didn't they say everyone there was an insurrectionist? I don't understand how you could say that he isn't.
Starting point is 01:45:54 But he was the guy who was telling people to do it. No, I know. It's the Ray Epps insurrection. Okay. But what I'm saying is, yeah, there was no direct quote from Trump. Nobody said, go on in, do it. But this guy was telling people to go into the capitol so yeah you're correct if they're going to call it trump's insurrection no it's right
Starting point is 01:46:09 right epps insurrection no i know but i'm saying if they can get away with calling it trump's insurrection then i don't know how you could sue someone for calling it right yeah no exactly that's my point they but the more they try to push this like the more they prove i don't i don't i don't think he's point. I don't think he's a Fed. You don't think he's a Fed? Nope. And I think the Fed, it depends on your definition of Fed. And I think they set things up perfectly so that they can sue you if you do something like that.
Starting point is 01:46:35 You, not so much. I mean the rhetorical you. Like Fox News is scared because what the Feds will do is they will contract an individual. And then if you accuse the person, he's got the full weight of an infinite backing, infinite cash reserve to sue you into oblivion and destroy your career. Interesting. But we'll see. You know, they did it to Alex Jones. Yeah. We'll see what happens with Fox News and Ray Epps.
Starting point is 01:47:02 But that being said, Luke just called me a fed in chat. That's a lawsuit right there. That's a lawsuit. First of all, Luke is is big con right luke is establishment conservatism and i've been trying to tell people from the start you should see the contract he sent me oh yeah yeah absolutely i'll show it on air expect a lengthy twitter thread to follow where you prove this there will be there will be good yeah later steve sm Smith says Don Lemon will end up on ABC News. You know, I honestly wouldn't doubt that. See, but the way that he's talking about getting fired, I wonder if all the networks are like,
Starting point is 01:47:31 we don't want him. He's too difficult to deal with. I mean, News Nation picked up Cuomo. Maybe Lemon has a, you know, a future there. Amish Man says, I remember the Timcast episode when Seamus said he couldn't do Tucker's voice or Tim's voice, but he was practicing Tucker. Now he's nailed it. I can do Tucker's voice perfectly.
Starting point is 01:47:48 I don't know if I can do Tim's voice yet either. Can you do Joe Rogan? No, Joe Rogan's voice is too normal. I can do his speech patterns kind of. Joe Rogan like pauses and talks like, the thing about that is this. He'll be thinking and he moves his arm like this. I've never, I've not seen anybody able to impersonate Joe Rogan. Well, his,
Starting point is 01:48:10 it's because of, like, he has certain mannerisms that are easy to pick up, but his voice is so unique that he's really, really hard to do an actual impression of. It's very hard to do his voice. I definitely can't. Like Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, they're easy. Nuh-uh, they're're really hard that's why only i can do them okay ben shapiro does a great joe rogan impression okay have you tried dmt gang honestly this is absolutely amazing
Starting point is 01:48:34 i saw that the elf people came and took me to another realm ben shapiro impersonating jordan peterson impersonating joe rogan it's like if you're not going to embody the archetypal human goals by taking DMT, you're never going to kill the snake, gang. All right, all right. You've got to watch Tim Dillon's impersonated Joe Rogan. That one's actually... It's good? He does it? It's good.
Starting point is 01:48:57 Anna P says, what if Tucker goes on CNN? Also, I'm a member of Tim Kiss, but on YouTube it tells me to become a member. Any way to combine it? I use the same email. No, they're two different things. So YouTube membership is something totally different to website membership, and there's no way to combine it. All right. Captain Game Man says, Internet killed the primetime news star. It certainly did.
Starting point is 01:49:20 What do we got? Publius Valerius says, Valerius says i support tucker going to work for cnn and don working for fox might as well go full 1984 at this point corporate media is a joke wow john curry says the only thing better than having tucker on is having seamus back thank you thank you better than having tucker it makes me feel pretty good but yeah of course yeah it is why would they did they say anything to indicate that that was not their honest opinion on it it's just interesting that you're trusting you believe them yeah well i think you should give people the benefit of the doubt that's that's nice
Starting point is 01:49:51 of you not all of us walk through life like skeptical cynics who doubt everything they see and hear must be so i just i pulled the audience a very important question oh boy should shamus give tim a non-fauci role oh well I have and I did on the last video and you never sent me your audio that wasn't fair I gave you the police officer in the last video Seamus sends me a document with like one I know one hour he's like I need you to voice this police officer here read this and I'm like I did it like three days ahead of time I said Tim do it and you said I like, you're not here. I don't know what you're asking.
Starting point is 01:50:28 And then Seamus does his quick voice memo and he's like, just say this. And I'm like, bro. I said, say it like this. I said, say it like this. You said, I need direction and I gave you the direction. He wanted me to come up like,
Starting point is 01:50:38 I'm a cop. My name's Seamus. You've done, that's, yeah, that's actually what it was. That was originally the line of the video. That's a great voice, yeah. 78% said yes, Seamus. All right, 78 said yes all right well this is why this is why i should was dominion in charge of the twitter poll you just or the youtube i think i should voice nancy pelosi oh i'm fine with you
Starting point is 01:50:54 voicing nancy pelosi i will get her in a video i think be very funny why aren't you writing for tim's acting credentials that's that's right that's the real question listen i actually people on imdb put Freedom Tunes on my IMDb. I know, I know. Well, why wouldn't they? You're one of the voice actors. It's why you're notable. I took a picture. I posted it. Did you? Yeah, it says
Starting point is 01:51:15 Dr. Fauci. Oh, I thought you were like, I finally made it. Yeah, I'm a voice actor. I play Dr. Fauci on Freedom Tunes. I'll be honest. There's millions of views in these videos. It's true. There's literally millions of views. I should get an Academy Award or something. Well, I wouldn't go that far. Your performance was okay.
Starting point is 01:51:30 It was serviceable. Can I get in SAG with that now? Absolutely. Yeah. And what's the other one? AFTRA? What's AFTRA for? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:51:37 It's the same thing, isn't it? Oh. I don't know. I wouldn't know. Sounds like an insurance company. All right. Chinese Spy Balloon says, we should start a GoFundMe for Don Lemon could call it don lemonade that's i love it i
Starting point is 01:51:49 love it when life gives you don lemon right like i already pitched he's going in academia but maybe he'll take over some you know not very well known non-profit and rename it don lemonade and he'll just give out money i hope pat meadows says i nominate dan bongino to take the 8 p.m slot at fox it's like man did people not realize that they booted that Dan Bongino was out he got fired right yeah they couldn't they couldn't reach an agreement on their contract but maybe now that the 8 p.m. slot is open Don is ready to come back to the table yeah yeah that could be possible what do we got? Why do you say that like a goblin? How do you feel? How do you feel knowing?
Starting point is 01:52:25 You're like, what do we have here in my chat? My friends, how much money are you sending me? So, Tim, how do you feel knowing you now own this time slot? No, Tucker, no more competition. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. I actually had people texting me saying, like, the 8 p.m. time slot is yours. And I'm like, Tucker Carlson was getting 3 million views, getting like 10 times the viewership that we were. But, you know, I'll take whatever trickles off of his empty slot now.
Starting point is 01:52:53 I mean, we got a lot more viewers today. Maybe Fox will hire you for that slot and we'll just broadcast from here. All right. Paul Sikora says, Seamus, who in your opinion is the better theological thinker and writer or who has more influential in your understanding of the catholic faith saint thomas aquinas or saint augustine okay that's a really good question so i love me some saint augustine i really do but i'm gonna have to go with aquinas smart feller that guy yes yes extremely intelligent i don't know enough about either of them. A lot smarter than Luke, for example.
Starting point is 01:53:26 Other than? Who isn't? Aquinas is cited by even secular individuals in terms of philosophy. Yeah, exactly, and scholarship. I mean, sometimes, I'm sure Augustine is as well, but I know that Aquinas lays out the model for what a scholar should be because he writes everything starting with his opponent's arguments and the best arguments his opponents have and then laying those out and just decimating
Starting point is 01:53:51 all of them. Violent Hour says Gollum Tim horrifies me. That's very good. That's very good. Same. I was not prepared for that voice. Oh yeah. That's very good. When are you going to write that into Freedom Tunes? Tim as Gollum. It has to be like there has to be a moment when a scraggly um it's got to be like a democrat like schiff or kinzinger
Starting point is 01:54:12 and they're trying to get something and then we just have them be gollum you know what i mean that would make sense but the thing is like i can do a gollum voice too so you'd have to it'd have to be better than mine i just don don't know that it's awesome. I just don't think so. Seamus is like, Oh, you're Sterlet from us. I go, Hey, give me that ring back, boys. That's not Gollum. That's how Gollum sounds.
Starting point is 01:54:35 That's not how Gollum sounds. You have to compete. Stupid fat hermit cells. All right. 100% better. 100% better. I'm sorry. 100%.
Starting point is 01:54:42 100% better. Maybe like 2%. That was literally completely better I feel like we're ready to at least like a 15 second monologue from both of you in the
Starting point is 01:54:48 Gollum voices alright it has to be a monologue alright next episode we're each gonna pick a famous
Starting point is 01:54:53 monologue from a movie or TV show and then we have to deliver it as Gollum and we'll see whose is better we'll have people vote in the chat
Starting point is 01:54:59 and that's the whole show we each get one hour but do it in like memorize one of the great speeches of history yeah exactly i'll do i'll do trump's last address after being arrested oh my god and then you can do uh trump's rally in uh san jose it can't they can't both be uh
Starting point is 01:55:18 can't be both trump i don't know you want to have some control in this experiment right i mean exactly i gotta pick my own although there would be something to be said of having a Trump rally after the 2020 election and having Gollum just say, They stole it from us! That doesn't make sense! Oh my God. The election! They stole it from us!
Starting point is 01:55:43 Stupid fat voting missiles. I'm sorry. Why was Gollum not the face of this whole they stole the election? They stole it from us. This is really a missed opportunity all around. They takes it. All right.
Starting point is 01:55:58 What do we got? Captain Caveman says the recycling center by my house is a sign that says no bud light accepted for redemption wow remember when uh beer commercials were a bunch of like scantily clad women and the message was that if you drank their beer attractive women would want to have sex with you yeah remember the burger commercials like that too more degeneracy the what the burger commercials that were like that too yeah it was like they were trying to sell things and they were like i know what we'll get a guy to buy this
Starting point is 01:56:26 sexy women and you know what there's nothing women love more than a man eating a cheeseburger that's like yeah making the cheeseburger you know that's right providing alright alright alright what do we got here I feel like it's like fixing your car
Starting point is 01:56:43 and taking you to get a cheeseburger you know yeah i don't want to have to publish says i would buy ultra maga beer someone please create that brand uh seth weathers made conservative conservatives dad ultra right beer which is similar lord's lord spam says yingling makes a half porter called black and tan and it's wonderful the irish have no excuse shameless what did you just say wait wait hold on when did i ever claim the irish have any excuses besides alcoholism that is an excuse it's a disease it's a disease and the various uh public beratings they get from being targeted by politicians yeah exactly it's not fair like joe biden come on come on project apario says tim andre here inventor you can integrate the youtube api to timcast and pick up subscription information from that ping me if you want oh really we could
Starting point is 01:57:31 probably figure something out then we'll try and figure something out let's see we got no soup for knolls says still waiting for the special guest wow so no firstly no soup for knolls is a voice actress who does the female voices on freedom tunes so i think she got jealous of my golem No soup for Knowles is a voice actress who does the female voices on Freedom Tunes. So I think she got jealous of my Gollum impression because she knows she can't do one that's nearly as good. And I think she wanted to hurt my feelings.
Starting point is 01:57:54 And that's what we're seeing right now. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Happy birthday to Olivia Clare. Let's go. What? You said it was your special day. I didn't say it was my... I thought this was like your bromance special day oh i don't know i guess he was talking to you also my name's not olivia claire
Starting point is 01:58:10 yeah it is incorrect he just renamed you okay i can't believe you've known me for this long you don't know my name no no i know you're acting exactly like luke i just want to put that on the table okay that is you knew how to try to get under my skin and i appreciate that you want something a little more manipulative and complex all right understandable but it's not gonna work because i know what you're trying to do callan shaw's uh indie game says shimcast is back trying to remember whether it was knolls or frad it was knolls who called him a shiite wahhabi catholic i love his hollow oh we oh he loves my hollow ad thank you yeah so we just got sponsored by this prayer app called hollow in the joke we do. I'm so
Starting point is 01:58:46 glad they were okay with this app or this ad, and I'm so glad they liked it. But if you guys, if you watch our last video, there's one at the end of it. It's, I really recommend you check it out. Um, the last couple of videos we did have this hollow ad and it's super funny. We had Michael Knowles on and Ian asked a religious question and he was like, you really need to ask Seamus that who is a Shiite Wahhabi Catholic. That's so sweet of him. Thank you, Michael. So sweet of him.
Starting point is 01:59:11 What do we got? Trevor Greens has published the same cartoon twice, one voicing Tim and one voicing Seamus and see which one gets more views. Oh, mine clearly would. No, it wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:59:20 Yeah, because I would just tell my people, I want to watch mine instead of yours. They would never do it. Yeah, they'd be like, they'd be like they wouldn't they'd be like they'd watch and go they'd throw this garbage and then they'd find mine oh thank goodness a light in the darkness yes is exactly what they'd say i really think there's only one way to determine this i feel like you've got to move forward with this plan and competition it's got to be done it's two golems they both looked around nervously i want that on record
Starting point is 01:59:45 nancy pelosi and adam schiff arguing about trump but they're both in the voice of golem acting like golem and seamus is one and i'm the other or you should just do this show regularly or we'll just do voices for as long as you can we'll do um we'll literally just do like joe biden quotes his golem poor habits is just as bright and talented as white habits as fat ones as fat oh my gosh uh that's yeah so uh matt says tim voice for laurie lightfoot actually that's the laurie lightfoot voice that should be the laurie lightfoot voice we did a cartoon with her behind the paywall but um i don't think we've done one with her on the main channel we we got we got a story for you guys over in the uncensored portion of the show so smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends because
Starting point is 02:00:33 apparently uh with tucker out of the way we are now going to be the biggest show finally our the only thing standing in our way tucker carlson has been defeated and um that means the 8 p.m slots uh ours so you know seamus welcome back yeah thank you and i gotta say there's someone else gunning for your job there's this really cool uh new podcast on rumble called shamer that this this guy named seamus coglitzer is like kind of a big deal and so part of why i think part of i think i let the record show it was tim making poop noises that entire time. Absolutely disgusting. I think that... Well, it's not in his contract.
Starting point is 02:01:07 I'm allowed to make poop noises during his... It's actually true. When he reads dates. I shouldn't have signed that. I shouldn't have signed that. But... Well, so we'll do the... Let me wrap up.
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Starting point is 02:01:29 And we got a lot more stuff to talk about. So Savannah, did you want to shout anything out? Yeah, go follow me on YouTube, Sav Says, and Twitter. Same exact handle. I'm excited for the after hours show. It's where I can finally actually speak my mind. So go check it out, guys. I'm excited.
Starting point is 02:01:45 Not family friendly. Yeah, because she usually check it out, guys. I'm excited. Not family friendly. Yeah, because she usually keeps her opinions to herself. I really do. I want you all to listen to me very carefully. I have a mission for you. I need you to go over
Starting point is 02:01:53 to youtube.com slash freedom tunes. It's my cartoon channel where I make animations. I need you guys to subscribe. Every Tuesday and Thursday we upload a funny cartoon and we're going to start
Starting point is 02:02:02 uploading three a week on occasion. So yeah, you guys are going to love it. This guy thinks he's going to give me free labor now. I'm a big old crazy guy over here. And also, someone in the chat said, this guy should have a daily podcast. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 02:02:15 I do have a podcast. It's twice a week. It's on Rumble, rumble.com slash shamer. And this week, we are broadcasting every single night, 6 p.m. Eastern. Go over there. Check it out. You guys are going to love it, 6 p.m. Eastern. Go over there. Check it out. You guys are going to love it.
Starting point is 02:02:27 Thank you so much. I'm so, so glad to be back. This went incredibly well in spite of Tim's best efforts. It was wonderful chatting with you all. And I can't wait to see you, the wonderful audience, on the after show. I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow. I'm a writer for TimCast.com. You should follow at TimCnews on Twitter and Instagram.
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