Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #765 Major US Bank To BE SEIZED By US As Banks KEEP IMPLODING w/Leighton Woodhouse

Episode Date: April 26, 2023

Leighton Woodhouse is a freelance journalist who contributed & reported on the Twitter Files. Tim, Adrian, Seamus, & Serge join Leighton Woodhouse to discuss the US Government's plans to seize First... Republic Bank, FOX losing nearly $1 Billion after firing Tucker Carlson, Pentagon officials reportedly happy that Tucker Carlson was fired, Joe Biden's collusion with the DOJ to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story, & the continued fallout of Bud Light. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So remember how like those banks were collapsing and we were really concerned about one of them and they said, no, everything's fine. You don't got to worry about that one bank. Well, now we got to worry about that one bank. It's First Republic. And not only are we getting reports that they've basically mismanaged funds, they're being sued. I think it's like $72 billion, something like that. We're hearing now from a Fox Business business reporter that the u.s may seize this bank now watch your guru says that the u.s government is expected to actually seize this
Starting point is 00:00:32 bank and uh it's a decently large bank a lot of people have money here and so our money there so it's um i don't know i guess it's worrying there was some other news i guess the other day that i didn't report on i just don't really care. Who's that guy who announced he's going to run for president? Biden. Oh. Joe Biden announced he's going to be running for re-election or something. I just don't care.
Starting point is 00:00:54 I really don't. It's just not news. So there's that. Then there's a Fox News losing $1 billion in market value after firing Tucker Carlson. You think they'd hire Dylan Mulvaney? Fox News. They got a great opportunity there. But now we're hearing that they're losing a bunch of Fox Nation subscribers, which is all just completely obvious.
Starting point is 00:01:11 And I think one thing people haven't mentioned is that maybe the reason Rupert Murdoch wanted to get rid of him is simply because he was becoming the face of Fox News, and that's a threat to Fox News. They want Fox News to be the brand, not Tucker Carlson. So we'll talk about all that stuff, but before we do, my friends, we've have an amazing sponsor tonight, Cast Brew Coffee.
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Starting point is 00:03:14 Sir, who are you? I'm a journalist. I have a substack called Public, which I run with Michael Schellenberger. Been reporting for a long time about crime, homelessness, drugs in the Bay Area. That's where I live. That's where Michael lives, as well as about the censorship industrial complex. We were both part of the Twitter files. Yeah, that's who I am. Yeah, right on. I saw Tim Robbins was tweeting.
Starting point is 00:03:33 I saw that, too. Tweeted about your work. So this is the guy from a bunch of- Shawshank. Shawshank Redemption, right? Yeah. And he's got a new movie coming out. But he's a big movie star.
Starting point is 00:03:43 And he's also like an old school leftist, like the traditional kind of leftist. Seems like a good dude. A few of them left, I guess. Yeah, and he tweeted about the censorship industrial complex. He tweeted out your work, so very based. So good to have you here, man. Looking forward to hanging out. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Absolutely. And Shim Sham? My name is Seamus Coghlan. I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes where we make animated cartoons. We just released a video today that I think you guys are really going to enjoy. I also have a stream on Rumble. It's a podcast called Shamer. We stream Tuesdays and Thursdays at 6 p.m., but we are going to be streaming every single
Starting point is 00:04:15 day this week. So if you all want to go over there and check either of those channels out, I would be grateful. Right on. And welcoming back to the show is Adrian Norman. What's going on, guys? Adrian Norman here. I am a staff writer here at TimCast. And like Casper Coffee, I am also a robust dark blend.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Well, there you go. He's not Ian, but, you know, Adrian will try his best, I guess. Yeah, you know, see what he can do. How does Tim treat you as an employee writing for TimCast? Oh, we're just going to start here? Give us the dirt. He's actually, so he's like one of the few people who doesn't actually live out here. You know, he's very privileged in that regard.
Starting point is 00:04:48 He can just go wherever he wants. And we have to fly him in, you know, take care of him, get him on the show. You know what I mean? You're not like a diva about it or anything, right? No, no. Everything's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Well, I'm glad. He's yelling me over Slack. Right on. Yeah, it should be fun. And then, of course, we got Serge pressing all the buttons. What's up, guys? Serge.com. All right. Well, let's be fun. And then, of course, we got Serge pressing all the buttons. What's up, guys? Serge.com. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Well, let's just jump into this first story. I guess this is a big deal. And I don't know how worried you guys are, but we have this from Watcher Guru. First Republic Bank expected to be seized by U.S. government. Wow. First Republic Bank is expected to be seized by the U.S. government, a report by Fox Business Network says. According to Charles Gasparino, bankers working with First Republic say they expect eventual government receivership for the ailing bank. This will come after it exhausts private sector solutions such as asset sales and finding a buyer, both of which appear difficult. Not surprised.
Starting point is 00:05:40 First Republic lost more than 40% of its deposits, approximately $72 billion in the first quarter of this year. Holy crap. That's bad. Its shares sank nearly 50% as the end of Tuesday. This is according to a Monday announcement by the bank. The bank has seen record drops over the past month and a half, particularly since the Silicon Valley Bank was closed in March. Multiple big banks have also struggled. However, it looks like First Republic will be falling into the hands of the U.S. government soon.
Starting point is 00:06:07 They're also going to be doing that central bank digital currency in June or something. I heard about that. So this is all like kind of good timing. What if this is what precipitates an emergency buyout? We were talking about this the last time there was a banking crisis, which was like three weeks ago. And so, yikes. And the idea is like the banks start crumbling. Then the U.S. government steps in and says,
Starting point is 00:06:29 we are going to rescue your deposits, good members of First Republic Bank. Simply download the Fed app and we will convert your U.S. dollars into Fed coin, which you can then use to purchase goods. I'll tell you guys if that happens because this whole discussion is stressing me out.
Starting point is 00:06:47 I'm experiencing some existential angst because that's my bank. That's my bank that I bank in. It's also the bank that owns the mortgage for my house. Well, that might be good news. It might be. I have no idea. Wouldn't that be cool, though? We've got direct deposits going into this bank.
Starting point is 00:07:02 We just learned about this, what, like half an hour ago or something? Yeah. I told my wife, we don't know what's happening with our money. I mean, we're well under the FDIC cap, so we'll get insured for that. But to be fair, you've had like a month to prepare for this because we knew First Republic was in dire straits. I believe their PR statements.
Starting point is 00:07:19 They're like, we're secure. I actually think that, I mean, I don't know anything about this, but I do think that they're just taking backsplash from what happened with Silicon Valley Bank. So I kind of doubt that this is a fundamental issue with a bank. I think that this is part of the panic, which is a reason why I should have joined the panic and taken my money out myself. Or maybe by not panicking, you may have helped them, but they lost 40% of the deposits. I mean, that sounds like mismanagement. They're being sued apparently, but hold on right there a minute. Wouldn't it be cool to wake up? Everybody listening, you wake up one day and you get a phone call and they're like, you know, that mortgage you had in your house, it's gone.
Starting point is 00:07:52 House is just yours for $300,000. Actually during the, in 2009, during the banking crisis with a financial crisis was when I bought my first house in LA and I have this experience. I've never heard anybody have this experience before. I put in an offer on this house. It was super cheap because it was like a short sale. Property was super cheap, obviously, right after the crash. And they sat on the offer for a while. They came back to me like three weeks later. And they said, my agent called me. He was like, I don't know, can't make heads or tails out of this, but the bank is asking if you are willing to lower your offer by $50,000. And if that happens, we'll clear it and you'll get the house. And I did it and I got the house. He's like, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:08:36 No. I want to pay $50,000 more. That's how crazy the market was. But I guess the issue was like, would the buyer accept or the seller? I'm sorry. Yeah, but I guess the market was I guess the issue was like would the buyer accept or the seller? It was like I think the best I can make of it is like there was nobody who actually owned the house because these are all Securitized loans. It was like, you know some Chinese sovereign wealth fund and pension fund or whatever So nobody actually had equity in the house But the bank that was holding the debt on it was just losing money every month that was on the market
Starting point is 00:09:00 So they just wanted it was a toxic asset They just want to get off market and what they were afraid afraid of is if they took the the offer that I accepted, the appraiser would come in who used to be super, you know, these appraisers used to be super, like corrupt and arm hand in glove with the with the realtors, but all of a sudden, they were super honest. And, and so they were afraid that the appraiser was going to come in and say, No, this is not worth as much as you're offering, and then the deal would fall apart. And then they'd have it on their books for months longer. So that's the best I can make sense of it. First Republic said Monday it lost a net total of $72 billion in deposits during the first quarter,
Starting point is 00:09:34 an outflow that would have topped $100 billion if not for a rescue from 11 of the nation's largest banks. So this is like people are – it's a run of the bank. Yeah. This sounds like people are rushing to the bank and getting their money. I'm worried. It's kind of scary. There was another story.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Did you guys hear PNC is shutting down like 40 some odd branches? Wow. No. Dude, I wonder if the banking system is going and we're like on the Titanic, just oblivious. The banking system and the media at the same time.
Starting point is 00:10:01 We need a Jimmy Stewart. Dude, the media. Nate Silver got fired. Yeah. BuzzFeed's gone. Buzz needed Jimmy Stewart. Dude, the media. Nate Silver got fired. Yeah. BuzzFeed's gone. BuzzFeed News. Whoa, yeah, dude. We needed Jimmy Stewart to be like,
Starting point is 00:10:10 oh, the money's not in the bank. It's in your neighbor's home and in their business so that people leave their money there. I think the first thing, Adrian, you did was like, you looked up Jim Cramer. Yeah, it was on Watcher Google. He's unbeatable. He was, yeah, he's undefeated.
Starting point is 00:10:26 He literally said, but no, you pulled it up right before the show, and you're like, oh, he said it's a safe bank. He could be right. FRC is new focus. Very good bank. I was telling you, the man is undefeated. He will not lose. I mean, I'm really considering using him as an inverse financial advisor.
Starting point is 00:10:44 You know what I mean? Just like whatever he says, you do the opposite. It's like the George Costanza of finance. Dude, with Nancy Pelosi and Jim Cramer, you should know exactly what to invest in. You have no excuse. That's true. Yeah, whatever Nancy Pelosi invests in and whatever Jim Cramer advised you to do, you do the opposite.
Starting point is 00:10:58 He's like, don't do it. He's like, Nancy's headed for bankruptcy. Don't invest in anyone. I don't know what this means, though. Am I supposed to be worried? Like, should we panic? You should always panic, Tim. I don't know what this means, though. Am I supposed to be worried? Like, should we panic? You should always panic, Tim. I should always panic.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Always panic. That's a good rule of thumb. I want to try and pull up this news. Look at this one. This is like, we never actually covered this story, even though it's from April 4th. Can I close this or something? What is this? PNC Bank set to close 47 branches across the U.S. by end of June.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Wow. So if you got First Republic or PNC, I guess the challenging thing is, does reporting on it just contribute to a run on the bank and make everything worse? I think the banking system, though, it was a matter of time because the whole thing operates on confidence confidence and faith right yeah i mean they have a system of fractional reserve lending where if you put in 100 bucks you know the bank can lend out 90 of it and only hold 10 yeah and the only thing that's holding the system together is everybody not going to the bank at the same time to take the money out which is exactly what's happening right now but they're actually lend out 100 they remove the reserve requirement well they put it back i think they put it back someone's super chat so they put it back but it's it's not that they can learn at 90 it's that they can create $90.
Starting point is 00:12:07 So if there's a hundred dollars in the bank, they create 90 new dollars on that hundred. So now there's $190 in the money supply. I thought, I thought they can actually multiply it by 10, right? Cause they only need 10% and reserve. So if they have a hundred dollars, they can create $900.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Like what, what happened with the bailout was the fed issued out like 425 billion. So that could be leveraged to get 4.2 trillion in loans out like i i'm not sure my understanding was that you put 100 in the bank they create 90 in loans so they still have the 100 and that's another 90 and then someone who gets that 90 deposits it in a different bank so now there's 100 here 90 here that bank then loans out you know uh 80 81 or whatever and so 100 turns into a thousand dollars and that's inflation yeah no but i but i actually think because you only have
Starting point is 00:12:52 to have 10 on hand they can literally say we have 100 therefore we're able to lend out 900 as opposed to 90 i think you guys are saying the same thing you're saying no but he said well he's saying 90 yeah so i'm just being like they could like loan that 90 out. But they're not loaning it out. They're creating it. Yeah. Well, yes. Like credit cards make money.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Let me resolve this. If somebody puts $100 into a bank, they create $900 because that's 10%, right? So that gives them the ability to be able to lend out. I don't think that's how it works. They can loan out 90% of the deposits. Oh, I hear what you're saying. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:24 So if they receive $100. They keep 10 Oh, I hear what you're saying. Okay, yeah. So if they receive $100... They keep 10 on hand, but what I'm saying... They keep 100 on hand and then create 90. I think that... Do they? Or do they just actually issue it out? Because a lot of these banks don't have the cash on hand when people come to withdraw, and that's why they collapse.
Starting point is 00:13:37 So I think they actually do pass the money out. Someone's saying it's 900, not 90. Yeah, yeah. Not in the sense that... $100 deposit is 1,000 new money loans. Yeah. If they lend the money out, it's not as if that gets.... Yeah, yeah. Not in the sense that... $100 deposit is $1,000 in new money loans. Yeah. If they lend the money out, it's not as if that gets... Seamus is right.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Okay, Seamus is right. It's not the audience that gets deducted from anybody else's bank account, though. We don't actually fact check. We just ask the audience, and the audience says Seamus is right. The audience says, I'm right. This is a popularity contest. Let's face it. I got no idea.
Starting point is 00:14:00 I mean, I'm not a finance guy, so I'll defer to the cartoonist. That's a brilliant strategy. Look, if you can make a living making cartoons, you're good with money finance guy, so I'll defer to the cartoonist. That's a brilliant strategy. Look, if you can make a living making cartoons, you're good with money. That's all I'll say. You can stretch that dollar, dude. Was that an anti-Semitic joke? What? No, it was an anti-me joke.
Starting point is 00:14:17 He's Irish. He's Irish. No one here is panicking, though. You're like, I'm kind of worried about money. Well, you got... Hold on. You got a house $50,000 cheaper right after the crash, so you get a break. But I might get a free house now, actually.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Oh, well, that would be nice. Yeah, what happens? Like, the bank, the government bails out and the government owns your house? I have no idea what happens. What if Joe Biden is just like... We own your house. It's not a house, man. You can't own a house.
Starting point is 00:14:41 It's everyone's house, man. Oh, man. That's what he said about kids today. He's like, it's not your children. It's the nation's children. I was like, what? Excuse me? The state owns your kids.
Starting point is 00:14:51 You can't tell someone not to sniff your kid, man. We're all paying taxes for that hair. I don't think he said that. That's exactly what he said. You fact-checked me. Have the chat fact-check me on it, Tim. All right, chat. Did Joe Biden actually say he's allowed to smell your kids?
Starting point is 00:15:08 They're going to say he did. That was the spirit of what he said. Hold on. That was the spirit of what he said. You're meeting between the lines. First Republic Bank shares sink 49% after earnings report. I mean, like, the thing about this story is I can opine for days on like ABC News firing Nate Smith. I'm sorry, Nate Silver and BuzzFeed collapsing and Don Lemon getting fired and Tucker getting fired.
Starting point is 00:15:32 But like the banking system collapsing, I'm kind of just like, well, I'm glad I bought Bitcoin or something. I don't know. It's like as a millennial who's lived through two major financial crises, I'm kind of not phased by banks falling apart and what that means and especially considering you know I got chickens so I'm not I'm not worried about you confident in Bitcoin yeah yeah I'm confident in the chickens to be honest that's true though I am more confident chickens what do you make of the idea that that crypto is actually the vehicle that's gonna be used to bring in the CBDC's I mean it is that literally is what they're doing. Like, the central bank digital currencies are crypto-based currencies
Starting point is 00:16:10 that they're making. Bitcoin, of course, the precursor. But I've actually argued this for a while, that Bitcoin was the most convenient way to get anti-establishment, conspiracy-type individuals to embrace global currency. You have people like Alex Jones being like, I want a one- world government with one currency, Amero, the Euro.
Starting point is 00:16:26 And then all of a sudden around the time he's complaining about the Amero, a North American single currency, Bitcoin pops up, no one knows who made it. And then immediately it's all of these people who want to buy it. So it's like convince the one group of people who would reject a global currency
Starting point is 00:16:41 to adopt the global currency and you've won. You've controlled opposition to your way through the barricade, you know? Yeah, well, and this is part of what is very confusing, right? I mean, conservatism doesn't have a solid definition or solid footing at the present moment. It's a little bit of we're just going to do the opposite of what the left is doing and a little bit of we're just going to do the opposite of what the establishment is doing. The idea of Bitcoin is certainly not a conservative idea, right? That's a very new, interesting, innovative idea.
Starting point is 00:17:08 It doesn't make it a bad one. I think there could be value to it. But conservatism is supposed to be about conserving. Yeah, I would say it's more libertarian. And it's not to say that conservatives can't have any thinking which overlaps with libertarianism. And it would be reasonable to say because this government is so horrible and does things so badly and is destroying our currency, it makes sense for conservatives to look into crypto if that's the particular heads they've chosen this is not financial advice but we have not we don't have a cohesively defined movement well i guess we'll see what happens with these banks and um i'm not going to give anybody financial advice but i'll just tell you i've i've already been looking at means of storing value elsewhere because with PNC closing, I think it was 47 branches.
Starting point is 00:17:48 That's very scary. I mean, that might be bigger news than a regional bank collapsing because PNC is a major bank. They're all over the East Coast. Maybe 47 is not that many compared to how many branches they have. I guess it's an important question, but all of this happening at once is kind of freaky. Well, the thing about Silicon Valley and First Republic is that they're like high-end banks for affluent people. They do like First Republic's main business is wealth management. So I don't know about PNC because I guess we do have it on the West Coast, but it's not very, very present. Is it normal for normal people?
Starting point is 00:18:21 Yeah, they're like Wawa and stuff like that. Right, right. So I don't know what conclusions to draw from the fact that it's these like elite banks that are falling but in australia they announced that some of their big banks are going to stop giving out cash you go to the bank you're like i'd like money but you can't have it yep yeah and the reason why is they said it's because everyone's using mobile apps so nobody needs the physical location to withdraw cash anymore you should go to an atm which is the precursor to your money only exists on the internet yeah and then central bank digital currency i've actually wondered many times what that what this means for panhandlers you're gonna make his cash anymore right you're gonna tap your card you're gonna walk up and go and then they're gonna be like thank you sir and you're like they're gonna hold out the keypad
Starting point is 00:19:01 and you're gonna go and then you're gonna type in the number that's actually actually actually interesting i wonder if like the global elites are trying to eliminate that kind of thing They're going to hold out the keypad, and you're going to go, and then you're going to type in the number. That's actually interesting. I wonder if the global elites are trying to eliminate that kind of thing, pen handling. I mean, maybe you'll hand them a bottle of water or a sandwich. Well, in my city, there are sometimes homeless people who have a cash app thing out on their sign. No.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Really? Yeah. No. Yep. Absolutely. There's no way. No, I'm not kidding. Cash app.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Yes. And then people walk up with their phones. The thing is, there are a lot of homeless people who just have really cheap smartphones nowadays. So they get that thing. They'll get a $20 phone from Cricket or something or whatever the inexpensive phone provider is now. You're talking about down in Georgia?
Starting point is 00:19:38 Yeah. Yeah. So you're saying I could go to a big city and just sit in a lawn chair and put up a sign with a cash and say give me money and then people will just send me money yeah you look the role we should you know we should do we should put a cash app thing on on timcast like right down here in the corner and just like speaking of cash give me your money i know this isn't on the docket but did you guys read this report it was like a month ago or something about how cash app and the entire what's the name of it
Starting point is 00:20:01 it's not square anymore it's like cube or something like that whatever the company is jack dorsey's company i think it's still square is it still square yeah cubes it might be a different one okay the the entire um app is basically like most of its revenue comes from like sex trafficking drug dealing oh my god gun running wait wait jack dorsey's wait what it was like it was a very exhaustive report about how just cash app is just built straight up on black market activity. We have to make Cash App safe for the black market, which is why we're banning all legal
Starting point is 00:20:32 activity on Cash App. Wait, wait, wait. Cash App... Where did you find this? It was this report that was issued that they took issue with, but the report was very detailed. I read a lot of it. It was exhaustive. I didn't read the whole thing. i've got square shares you know i got a handful of them yeah you should read that report oh yeah it was like i don't know it was maybe like 10 years ago
Starting point is 00:20:53 or something or eight years ago someone told me this rich dude who lived in new york i was hanging out with max kaiser and he was just like you got to buy square stock because everything's going digital transactions and i was like okay i guess and then i bought a little bit and then it like went tenfold in value i was like wow the other thing i remember in this report is that there's all these rappers who are straight up bragging about it in their raps so they're like they're like another thing that it funds is a lot of like like hit men are hired via cash app and there's these rappers who like some of whom have been charged with murder after say after reciting these lyrics who are like hit me on cash app and they're talking about like doing hits on people oh my gosh so it's like it's like in the and then jack dorsey i think i remember from this report at one point was like
Starting point is 00:21:34 in an interview was talking about how grateful he is to all the the publicity he's gotten from these from these rappers oh my gosh this is a guy who thinks that using the offensive pronouns for person on twitter makes them unsafe and he's like come here's my murder app okay you're able to find somebody so let's talk about somebody else who's losing money take this out from the post-millennial fox fox loses one billion dollars after parting ways with tucker carlson the fox corporation stock plummeted as much as 5% on Monday, wiping out $930 million in market value following the announcement that Fox News had parted ways with Tucker Carlson.
Starting point is 00:22:12 According to Business Insider, shares of the media company recovered slightly after, so it ended up at like $29. The decision to part ways with Carlson announced less than a week after the Fox Corporation and Dominion Voting System, blah, blah, blah. Carlson was one of the network's most popular hosts, blah, blah, blah. You know, I saw some really interesting commentary from Glenn Greenwald.
Starting point is 00:22:31 You want to know what he said? How come the left doesn't care about Hannity? How come the left doesn't complain about Hannity or Laura Ingraham? And he said it's because Tucker's the only one who was anti-war and anti-Big Pharma. Yeah. So the left went after him and completely ignores the safe gop and that's what fox news wants to be they don't want tucker carlson coming out here and saying these things yeah they want someone to go on and just be like big corporations are great everybody
Starting point is 00:22:54 just do what the government says exactly they would love that if tucker went on it was like the left wants you to think that these corporations are doing bad things to america they're our best friends actually they do great things you really are in moderna thank you um but i i sort of mentioned this yesterday that cnn is the network that tells you what you're supposed to believe and then fox is the network that tells you what you're allowed to believe so if you don't want to buy into what cnn is saying they'll push you over to fox and that's still within the realm of acceptable opinion but tucker's a little bridge too far yeah he's a bridge a little too far for that. Bridge too far, man.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Yeah. And he actually says something. You know, cable news commentators, they're all buzzwords. Apparently now they got the same, he launched this thing on his website where it's like you can text some number to like Tucker to 4-4 or something or whatever,
Starting point is 00:23:38 and then they'll send you information on what he's planning to do or something like that. Oh, really? Yeah, it's like you'll get notified when he announces his next big move or whatever. I think Tucker Carlson's gonna end up making 100 million bucks a year off this termination. Fox, if Fox was paying him, I think they say,
Starting point is 00:23:54 like if you Google it, it says his salary is 35 million. Imagine how much Fox needs to make off of his show in order to pay him $35 million a year. And run Fox, yeah, yeah. That's kind of crazy, though. I mean, I don't understand how they pay. I think Hannity gets like $60 million or some other ridiculous number. Hannity was getting paid more than Tucker.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Oh, yeah. Usually. He has seniority. He does have seniority, but I imagine Tucker's a much bigger draw to the network. Well, Tucker also just wasn't bringing in a lot of advertising money. Ah, that makes sense. They all boycotted him. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Well, according to the same website, Hannity was getting a comparable salary advertising money. Ah, that makes sense. They all boycotted him? Yes. Well, according to the same website, Hannity was getting a comparable salary. Good. Yeah, he was getting $34 million plus a $5 million bonus. I don't think Hannity should make more than Tucker. Are you kidding me? Absolutely not. But I don't trust these websites.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Celebrity net worth as a salary is $45 million. I read somewhere that he was getting $60 million. This one says he gets $25 million. These websites are all fake all the people doing these like end zone dances about Tucker being fired from Fox like didn't we just go through this a couple years ago when Barry Weiss would
Starting point is 00:24:54 left the New York Times and the same people were doing the same end zone dances and then she went on to create the free press which is like dwarfs any present she had as a publicist so rich now. Absolutely. I think she already comes from a well-off family and now the rich have gotten richer
Starting point is 00:25:10 because the New York Times decided to unleash her. Yeah, exactly. So imagine Tucker Carlson. He's going to like 10x that, right? You've got to make a video. You've got to make a cartoon about Tucker, Scrooge McDuck swimming in a giant ball. Just getting a bunch of money. Look, I hope that's what happens. I appreciate the optimism I'm seeing from a lot of conservatives on this.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Part of my concern is, and I voiced this yesterday, is that because Fox tells people what is acceptable, it was great to have Tucker there to help shift that Overton window and introduce a new audience to ideas that the rest of us are familiar with or have been reading up about online, but that that audience wouldn't give credibility to seeing it on the internet as opposed to cable television i certainly have no doubt that tucker carlson's going to be extremely successful he's going to be fine it's a question of is his message going to spread as
Starting point is 00:25:55 far and wide i hope so i'm not saying it won't i'm just saying that having that platform was definitely very good for america having someone on cable television saying the things tucker was saying was very good for america i think they also had to pay out his contract meaning if he was getting like they can't just sever his contract so i imagine they went to him and said we're terminating your show and he was like then you owe me 30 million dollars for the rest of the year and they went okay and had to cut him a check apparently they they he found out 10 minutes before they made the announcement so they had to have just paid him right because you unless they unless they're
Starting point is 00:26:25 like this is this is the crazy thing about these contracts with these big with these big networks is they they give themselves like morality clauses to terminate you in violation of what the contract is supposed to do it's like hey we're gonna hire you for three years we're gonna pay you x amount of dollars for three years then buried in it says we can fire you for this specific reason then they just wait until they can justify whatever that reason is and then you're gone and they don't pay you for it but i imagine they're paying tucker i imagine they just wrote a big fat eight-figure paycheck tucker carlson and uh he doesn't have to work what's he gonna do he's also is it it's tucker carlson like the heir to like the the the oh henry candy bar fortune or something he he married into the tv dinner fortune oh he's he's so his wife is the
Starting point is 00:27:07 heir heiress to swanson tv dinners something like that the henry thing that was a seinfeld reference wow well did he have but you're not old enough to understand of course only 90s kids remember that's right is that what you're telling me did he come from some kind of prominent family himself i'm not sure i don't know uh yeah the the vanderbilts oh wait that's anderson cooper oh snap and then he got a summer internship at the cia which he abruptly left and then went to Sure, I don't know. Yeah, the Vanderbilts. Oh, wait, that's Anderson Cooper. Oh! Snap. And then he got a summer internship at the CIA, which he abruptly left and then went to, I think, Iraq to report on the Iraq War,
Starting point is 00:27:32 and then got a job working for CNN. Anderson Cooper had a stint with the CIA? I think it was for two years, a summer internship. Do you ever leave the CIA? No, you don't. Hey, well, there you go. I was hanging out with luke bradkowski once and we were in i think we were in atlanta or something and then he saw anderson
Starting point is 00:27:49 cooper and he ran up and he was like anderson anderson you work for the cia and then i was like luke what do you how would i what are you doing like what does that accomplish and anderson was just like what are you talking about and like walked off because the saying is once cia always cia you know yeah i, I think the way it works is that you're not, you might not be on the payroll, but you're an asset, right? There's like, there's informal relationships. You might not even realize you're an asset, but you've got relationships. They cultivate relationships in you. Then, you know, they maintain those relationships. Well, I want to ask the audience here. We have this other story from Postmillennial
Starting point is 00:28:23 Subscribers Ditch Fox Nation or Tucker Carl tucker carlson leaves network quote just canceled my fox nation subscription no point in having it without tucker carlson originals is anybody who watches this show subscribed to fox nation i did see comments in the i saw people chatting and like i canceled my fox nation subscription so there was some overlap well yeah maybe not anymore maybe they all i don't know i'm just kind of thinking like why is all this happening at once abc news fire a disney fired nate silver uh buzzfeed news shut down done yeah don lemon's fired tucker carlson's out it's there's like some quote-unquote coordinated thing is it is a global conspiracy are they trying to turn the frogs gay or something probably yeah that's got to be behind tucker carlson's out it's there's like some coordinated thing is it is a global conspiracy
Starting point is 00:29:05 are they trying to turn the frogs gay or something probably yeah that's got to be behind it at some point i mean i don't know exactly know how it twists and turns to get us to that point but i think that's a safe bet i mean isn't this just kind of a reckoning like like these i mean both the legacy media and these new upstart media outlets that came out around like 2013 or so, you know, your vices and your BuzzFeeds and stuff. I mean, the legacy media has been on the deathbed for a long time. And those new Jack ones have too. I mean, they've been like maybe they had a little bit of lead time over the cable news channels.
Starting point is 00:29:38 But like, I mean, does anybody read BuzzFeed News? Like does anybody? Yes. That's where I get all of my information, BuzzFeed News. I spoke to somebody earlier today who expressed some concerns of, well, they know a lot of people within the Republican establishment who are sort of expressing some concerns over whether or not the audience that Tucker had on Fox is actually going to follow him to a smaller network or an independent network or any of his next projects. So maybe they're just sort of trying to take him off the board again ahead of the 2024 election. He's too big of a figure to cancel completely. But the thinking is that some of the people who watched him on Fox
Starting point is 00:30:10 may not follow him to any other platform and get the information that he was putting out. Yeah, that's my fear. And that's basically what I was saying yesterday. But, you know, I think the basic conversation is that Brian Kilmeade is going to be a much more based version of Tucker Carlson. You know, everyone thinks Brian Kilmeade is the new Tucker. Yeah, that's what I keep hearing the kids say on Twitter.com.
Starting point is 00:30:31 I guess that doesn't work. It's not funny because no one knows who Brian Kilmeade is, but yeah, he's not Tucker Carlson. Jesse Waters was the number two show, right? Yeah, I mean, why don't they put Jesse in that slot? Yeah. Does anybody have a reason? I don't know. I couldn't tell you why they should or shouldn't. They should just not put anyone in that slot yeah does anybody have a reason i don't know i couldn't tell you why
Starting point is 00:30:46 they should or shouldn't they should uh just not put anyone in that slot and just put dead air exactly and just and now a moment of silence for the next hour next hour and in memory of tucker carlson and then it just shows black and white pictures of him with sad piano music playing like tucker carlson year of birth to 2023. So that's what they're going to do to convince the audience, like, he's dead, don't follow him anywhere. We never said he was dead. You can't take us to court,
Starting point is 00:31:13 but they just mislead the audience into thinking he's dead so that they can effectively cancel him. So I guess we have this video from Ocasio-Cortez. I'll play it for you. I'm sorry that I have to do this to you, but we'll play it anyway. Is there no sound? Out at Fox News.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Here we go. Tucker Carlson is out at Fox News. Couldn't have happened to a better guy. will say though is while i'm very glad that the person that is arguably responsible for the some of the largest driving some of the most uh amounts of death threats and violent threats not just to my office but to plenty of people across the country i also kind of feel like i'm like waiting for the cut scene at the end of a marvel movie after all the credits have rolled wow and then you see like the villains like hand oh my gosh re-emerge out to grip grip over like the end of a building or something but deep platforming works now it is important
Starting point is 00:32:22 remember when captain america deplatformed the Red School in Marvel? It's just like Marvel, you guys. It's like the Avengers. A giant corrupt corporation fired him for speaking out against corporations and corporations.
Starting point is 00:32:35 These are like superheroes, bro. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. What I found fascinating about this is that she's celebrating an anti-war personality being removed from a major corporate network,
Starting point is 00:32:49 and she doesn't care at all about Hannity or Laura Ingraham or any of their other personalities. That's what I'm saying. You'd think she'd be able to say, okay, Tucker does have right-wing politics, and that's bad and scary. But you know what? Everyone else on Fox does as well, and Tucker is also anti-war, and he speaks out against corporate greed, but she is on
Starting point is 00:33:07 the side of a lot of the corporations that he speaks out against, so it's not convenient, and I don't really think she's all that anti-war. Tucker Carlson had that famous moment where he was doing the handoff with Hannity, and he was complaining about Amazon exploiting its workers, or something like that. Yes, and him and Hannity argued. He's like, well, some people like the free
Starting point is 00:33:23 market, Tucker. And he talks more like this? Some, Tucker. And he's like, what are you saying? And he talks more like this. Some people want a good product from Amazon. They're allowed to buy it. And Tucker goes, for those that are just listening, I made a face. So he's like, excuse me, idiot says what? He's like, what?
Starting point is 00:33:37 And he's like, he just said he's an idiot. You heard it, America. And then Hannity goes, Tucker, you said what in order to say that I was saying what? And then Tucker was like, oops. And then that's what Tucker was like oops it's vault and then that's that that's what tucker like it was like skirted out but in all seriousness though i think that was a moment where i was fairly obvious tucker was tucker was getting the views and they liked it but he was at odds with the with the gop machine i wonder if this play is more so because
Starting point is 00:34:01 they want to get away from Trump and away from MAGA. Like people were saying, it's clearly about the Dominion lawsuit. It's like, well, Hannity and other personalities were talking a lot about the same thing too. And Tucker actually was rejecting the 2020 narrative from Trump. Yeah. And he got attacked for it by Trump supporters. That's what I'm so confused about. Like if it was about the election and why would they not have gotten rid of maria bartiromo and yeah she was way more into that yeah it's not could he just be the first domino i mean it would be domino i gotta be honest it would be like the coolest thing ever if like within the next two weeks every single fox personality is fired except sean hannity he's the only guy there but it's all 24 hours he's not
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Starting point is 00:36:10 but one other institution was also celebrating. The Pentagon. From Politico, good riddance. Pentagon officials cheer Tucker Carlson's ouster. It's just like Avengers. It's just so much like the Avengers movies that I like. Hey, guys, this is like those movies I saw once about the superheroes which one uh were they avenge uh no the boys where homelander oh my gosh and he kills a protester and they cheer for it i never saw that you didn't see
Starting point is 00:36:36 the boys spoiler i guess yeah dude you ruined it uh i really recommend the show because it's hilarious but it's very obvious that so so it's basically like Justice League, Batman, Superman, et cetera, but they make the characters flawed or something like that. And Homelander, basically Superman, is Trump. And so he has rallies and stuff like that. He's political. And it's like the show didn't start this way,
Starting point is 00:36:58 but the crazy thing is I'm pretty sure the character Stormfront, a literal Nazi, is Laura Loomer. Oh my God. We talked about it before. but i'm not but i'm not exaggerating like i think they actually tried getting a character who looked like her and made the character stormfront and then were trying to like basically i don't think the show was directly making a statement about laura loomer i think they were inspired by i mean she doesn't look like her the character stormfront she's hot what but the character looks like laura loomer the character stormfront like similar status yeah yeah yeah so i and then they said i think now we have we have like the reporting is they actually uh were trying to base homelander off trump but here's the thing in the show
Starting point is 00:37:40 homelander at the end of last season like, he's got a song with him and he's at a rally and then some liberal throws a water bottle, hits his kid and then Homelander just laser beams him and blows him up
Starting point is 00:37:52 or whatever and then everyone cheers for it. And I'm like, I'm fairly certain that if Donald Trump did do something like that, people would not be cheering. Sorry,
Starting point is 00:38:00 it's just not reality. No, he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue. And that's just, but like, if Donald Trump did go on Fifth Avenue with a gun and shot somebody trump supporters would be like what happened why did this happen if donald trump went on a murderous rampage people people would be like yo i don't know
Starting point is 00:38:16 about all that but like the way the liberals view it is they make this tv show where trump is basically superman which is also a weird insinuation to make like they think trump is literally superman and they don't like it and then he kills a guy and they think trump's supporters are like yay they live in a very very strange scary world but anyway before uh shamus got excited about superheroes the point is in an interview aoc was asked about if america's heading for another civil war and she's like well there's a part of history that's similar to this captain america when him and iron man fought and i'm sorry i'm not gonna let go of this this is ridiculous elected leaders referencing marvel movies it's our common language now this is the state religion it's a bizarre pop cultural polytheism and they
Starting point is 00:39:00 look to these superheroes like it's their pantheon of gods. And it's extremely embarrassing and pathetic. Their pantheon. It is. Well, so the story is the Pentagon is also there with AOC. And my point was AOC was supposed to be this insurgent character who was coming into the Democrat Party and being like, I am here for young people and we don't like the machine. And now she's like, Pentagon, we're in this together. So, you know. Yeah, they're on the same team it's it's it's captain america we came together to be to be fair captain america was a dod project no uh yeah the u.s government
Starting point is 00:39:35 no that is true no i know that's that's what i'm saying that's what i'm saying it's how it gets into their heads right it's very industrial military complex you gotta let it go no you're right no but here's a fun fact you know so before uh world war ii superheroes usually just kind of like solved problems in their own communities in the comics like they would beat someone up who was doing bad things in their cities and then it was during world war ii that they started making all the comics about like the superhero saving the world hmm yeah so the industrial military complex changed the narrative of a superhero industrial military complex i don't know if i'm not saying it was a concerted effort by the military industrial complex military industrial complex whatever we want to call it today tim uh my point is just that
Starting point is 00:40:12 the the um war effort changed the way that people saw superheroes which i find interesting yeah and they're they're an inch they're a convenient propaganda tool which is why we're in love with them again they have um it was trending i guess rt offered tucker a job wow yeah you should take it what you mean like within the last day yeah i think that was the reporting i mean let me pull it up and the left was like this proves it let's check it out tucker carlson offered jobs at uh is it okay let's get out of here with this stupid video tucker carlson is out at fox news but welcome on russian tv the ousted anchor was offered work by the state-run news channel in moscow that echo much of his conspiratorial rhetoric on the war wait what's the byline on this is it ben collins patrick smith oh that dude once made up a fake story about me
Starting point is 00:41:06 what yeah yeah he made up a fake story i can't remember exactly what it was and then the today show ran it what was it it was um i can't remember the exact story but they included somebody some leftist activist this is my understanding of what happened made a super you know you know they have those activists who will take clips of you and then mash them together to make it seem like you said something different but they're meant to be humorous so be like a weird colors like someone made a video accusing me of saying a thing that was like out of context and combined with other things and then he ran the story and then it got picked up by a bunch of other outlets that ran it saying like hey you can't get mad at us nbc news
Starting point is 00:41:40 reported it nbc news then removed the removed the citation. It created a dead citation. A bunch of other media outlets were all referencing each other, referencing something with no source. That's how they play the game. Ben Collins wrote a piece. I wish I could remember which piece it was. It was something about Russian disinformation and bots that in the Twitter files, Michael Schellenberger
Starting point is 00:42:00 found the email where they're like, Joel Roth, the head of Trust and Safety, is calling bullshit on this story by Ben Collins in the emails. He's like, like Joel Roth, the head of trust and safety is calling bullshit on this story about Ben Collins like in the emails. He's like, this is fraudulent.
Starting point is 00:42:09 This is, there's nothing here. This is complete propaganda. That was Ben Collins' story. He hasn't retracted it yet. Well, I'm looking forward to the rest of the media collapsing.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Yeah. The rest of the what? The rest of the media. Oh, the rest of the, yeah. Seamus, are you just daydreaming over there? I was,
Starting point is 00:42:23 I was thinking about the Avengers films. I love them. Yeah, I was thinking about, yeah. Seamus, are you just daydreaming over there? I was thinking about the Avengers films. How much I love them. Yeah, I was thinking about potatoes. I was thinking about the time you had a potato on the show while I was gone and put my name on the title. That was great. Had a potato on the show.
Starting point is 00:42:34 I'm suing. It's funny because we did that. They literally did that to me. They're bad friends. Yeah, we put a potato in that chair. And then we put Seamus on the title card and put a picture of the potato. Because it's hilarious. I am curious about this though, right?
Starting point is 00:42:46 So what happens from here? Let's say all of traditional media collapses. I mean, does the government and the deep state and the corporate world all give up and go, I guess we lost. I mean, no, they'll just, they'll infiltrate social media because big tech already leans in their direction. Like Skrulls, the shape-shifting aliens from the Marvel movies. That's exactly, yes, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:43:08 That's exactly what I was thinking. They already have that apparatus constructed in social media. That's what we've been reporting on with the censorship industrial complex. I mean, they've got every platform, basically, except for Twitter at this point, because of Elon Musk's takeover. So, yeah, if it reverts to social media, it's not a problem for them. But let me ask you about this. Is Elon being, do you have free reign?
Starting point is 00:43:29 Are you able to just access the files or is Elon dripping them out to you and giving you selective information? No, definitely not the latter. How it worked was we would go in there and then we would ask for searches. So we'd say, do a search on, this is an enormous trove of files. So every email, every Slack message. So we'd have to say, let's, I want to see the
Starting point is 00:43:51 emails from all the emails from Vajayagadi between this date and this date, you know, say a five day span or something. And then they would go and run the search. They would go to another room and run the search. And the reason why they were doing the stuff in another room is because they were extremely paranoid about our seeing any user data because that's a serious liability for twitter so they had to do everything they could to make absolutely sure that what we were getting back was just internal stuff nothing with user data and then when they would come back with thousands of emails thousands of slack messages depending upon what we're asking for. And then we'd spend days going through them. So there was no way for, I've heard the accusations
Starting point is 00:44:31 that they were like cherry picking this stuff. Well, I like what they're doing, but I think Elon needs to hire an internal liaison. Basically they need to hire you directly for Twitter so that you as an employee are able to see user data. Then you can choose what to search for without limitation. It's very, very difficult to know what you don't know. It's impossible to know what to look for if you don't know what exists. Yeah. And so a good component about going through these documents is going to be just sifting through at random raw data and then finding threads
Starting point is 00:45:05 but without being able to access that system and peruse it you don't know what to search for so you're you so what's happening now is with the twitter files is i think you guys are scratching the surface yeah a lot of the information is damning but it's what we expect what about searching for something that no one thought to search for you know what i mean i wouldn't know that's the challenge so like like, this is also the issue with the Hunter Biden laptop. People don't know what to look for. So they've just,
Starting point is 00:45:31 it took them a year to find certain stories. We had stories from the Daily Mail coming out, exclusive Hunter Biden laptop reveals, you know, Joe Biden was involved in this deal in like a year after the laptop came out because you have to go through, you know, 50,000 emails and then you have to find the context. So there might be an email being like, Hey, I confirmed that meeting with the big guy you asked about. Then you,
Starting point is 00:45:52 you can't search for Joe Biden doing deals. You can't search for a corruption. You can't search. You can search for the big guy. Then you can find an email being like, Hey, we're on for tonight at 10 PM. See you there. And then you're like, who's this guy? What is he doing? If you went to someone with a laptop and said, search for Joe Biden in the emails, you wouldn't find that one. But that one combined with another one proves he was involved in certain business dealings, which is news that came out a year later.
Starting point is 00:46:17 So this is the challenge with the censorship stuff because it's probably worse than we realize. How do we search through this stuff? So you go to them with search criteria. How do you know that what you're getting back is the complete picture? How do you know it's all the information that's available when they hand you a little dossier of, let's say, 2,000 documents? How do you know it's not 3,000 or 4,000?
Starting point is 00:46:34 Well, so first of all, it's important to know that when we came into the Twitter files, Elon Musk had just taken over the company. He didn't know what was in these emails. He hadn't been there. The people running the searches were people who were brought in from Tesla and SpaceX because he'd fired half the staff of Twitter. And later on, he fired some more. And he replaced them with people from his other companies. And so they had no idea. They were trying to hold this company together with duct tape and bubble gum while running these very time-intensive searches for us,
Starting point is 00:47:05 they didn't actually want to be helping us. They wanted to be doing their regular jobs, but this was kind of a task to them. So first of all, nobody knew what was in there before we saw it. I mean, maybe some old guard Twitter people, but all these folks were new, were just as fresh to this as we were.
Starting point is 00:47:21 And then it would be obvious if there was stuff missing because we would see email threads that would just suddenly end. Did you actually see that? No, we saw no evidence of anything missing. Like you would expect to see email threads starting with nothing like out of the blue. And email, we saw none of that.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Is Elon still giving you access to all the files? Not at the present moment, but we hope to be back in. Why not? I don't know. mean he's elon right but like he's like okay guys no more searching have a nice day no it was more like we did our searches we did our reporting um where we hope to be to have an opportunity to go back in that would obviously be at his at his invitation we can't go in there without him. But that's not at this particular moment. Like, we hope to be back in. Did you ask to search for Alex Jones?
Starting point is 00:48:11 We did not do that search. That's an interesting one to do. But that's also part of my point. Like, without being able to just get free reign, so much is limited. And the Alex Jones thing could prove collusion between the networks at the same time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:23 I mean, we did have free reign while we were in there, and we hope to be back in there. But to your point, yeah, we would need to be in there for months. I mean, like, here's a hard drive. Start digging. You didn't have that. Well, no, but I don't know that. I understand why. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:36 I mean, well, first of all, because of the user data thing. Right. And I don't think they can just separate that. Also, this is a massive amount of data. It's like we're running searches on it's all the emails, all the slack messages at Twitter for years. You know, this is like, it's not like you can just put it on an external hard drive. So the Alex, so this is this is one of the issues I took with. I don't I don't blame Elon Musk for his selection in journalists.
Starting point is 00:49:01 I think he actually did a really good job of choosing some people to bring on to go through this. It's the best he could have done. But there's probably a lot of people who should have been given. It was it was too. I feel like the people he chose to go through this are in a similar political space. Also, it's important to point out that he did not choose everybody who went in there. he chose basically he reached out to barry and matt taibbi and then barry brought in michael schellenberger michael brought me in i brought lee fong in um matt had a team that he brought in so he basically invited two people and then they picked the rest of the people so this this hand-picked journalist man and he's
Starting point is 00:49:42 like mad at matt and barry now isn't he? He's not mad at Barry anymore. Oh, okay. That's good. He's cool with Barry. There was a little flap, but it was just over her like tweeting something critical about his like picking on that employee or something. It was just nothing. Matt, yeah, he's, Matt's not, Matt and, well, this has all been reported out.
Starting point is 00:50:01 I'm not. Right, right, right. But yeah, they're on the outs. I think probably one of the most important searches after federal government involvement is Alex Jones because that looked like a cascade. It looked like a conspiracy to take one man off of all of these different platforms.
Starting point is 00:50:18 I also wonder if Elon would be like, no, you can't search that one because he's outright said he won't let Alex back on the platform. Right. Well, if he did, then we would report that out that he refused to. Is there anything that you can't search that one because he won't he's like he's outright said he won't let alex back on the platform right well if he did then we would report that out that he refused to is there anything that you haven't been allowed to no nothing nothing except for now that access is basically shut off yeah but it's not it's not no it's not shut off it's not so much it's not like he said you can't come back in it's just like we had our time we did our reporting and then we
Starting point is 00:50:41 have to be kind of like invited back in you know it's not like we can't just walk in there we don't have like passes that we can just use any time of the day um so you know it's i don't think we've been shut out it's just i think we'll be back in there is what i'll say but you know speaking of conspiracies like this stuff the hunter biden laptop stuff it was just reported that that the origin of the Russian disinfo meme came from the Biden campaign. And this has been reported by like two outlets. Like it's like this is a huge story that spells out a literal psyop. Like it's like we put all these pieces together about how the Hunter Biden laptop story was, you know, the FBI had the computer.
Starting point is 00:51:24 They had subpoenaed it, there was a receipt that with those were both published in the New York Post, we knew so the FBI definitely had the computer and yet they were running around to these platforms saying, we think that there's going to be a what appears to be a Russian hack and leak dump in a couple of days. This is just like, within days of the New York Post story breaking, going to the to the platforms and warning them of a hack for information that they knew to be true, assuming that they were talking about the Hunter Biden laptop,
Starting point is 00:51:50 which seems like it'd be a big coincidence if they didn't. In the meantime, the Atlantic Council had organized like a tabletop exercise a few weeks before the story dropped, where they invited like national security reporters from the New York Times, all these bigwigs to run a tabletop exercise, what would happen if there was a Russian hack and leak operation intended to affect the election involving Hunter Biden, and then they all gamed out, well, we would suppress that and we would like to call it disinformation. So all this stuff was already like, and this has all been documented,
Starting point is 00:52:23 and it looked like a big conspiracy in PSYOP. And then we find out, because Jim Jordan released this letter, that Tony Blinken had called Michael Morrell, the former acting director of the CIA, and didn't ask for, but said, you know, we're very concerned about this New York Post story. And then Michael Morrell went on to organize that. All those intelligence officers who signed that letter saying that this has all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation, which kicked off the entire thing of discrediting the story. And it was at the past of the Biden campaign. And this has now been reported, verified. Fucking nobody's talking about this yeah we so we actually covered that on my podcast yesterday and it's so insane that
Starting point is 00:53:12 somebody from a presidential campaign could reach out to connections in our intelligence agencies to get them to fabricate a letter with the names of 50 different intelligence officials on it saying that this is russian disinformation so now you have the added element of them blaming a foreign power for something which is unbelievably irresponsible so that they can try to get their candidate elected and trump is indicted because his campaign supposedly you know paid off stormy daniels at his behest and they should have disclosed that like that's a greater example of corruption than the deep state operating at the behest of a member of a presidential campaign take a look at this we got this story from spiked
Starting point is 00:53:55 and i always love to uh give you guys the news guard certification 100 out of 100 that's right it is news guard certified and people are, that's the government. So the government certified it would call whatever you want. Joe Biden's sinister disinformation campaign. They say last week it was revealed that shortly before the 2020 election, Joe Biden's presidential campaign conspired with 51 former spies to discredit the New York Post discoveries in the Hunter Biden laptop. That is to say a person running for office conspired with government officials to discredit a news story that could harm their campaign and by the way when michael morel was asked under oath uh why he did it he said it was because he wanted joe biden to be elected he just straight up said that because
Starting point is 00:54:37 you can get away with it right it's a two-tier system yeah they let you when you're famous oh my god oof so uh well there you go does this mean that the country doesn't exist or something it means it's not our country anymore yeah it's like being worn as a skin suit
Starting point is 00:54:59 by occult creepy corrupt individuals just do whatever they want we're sitting sitting here watching. How are you doing? Yeah, I'm doing alright with it, I think. Obviously, you know, talk about this a bit. My hope is not in this world. I think we could still win
Starting point is 00:55:16 this battle, though. No, I think we're winning. I think it simply comes down to the reason they're going after kids so much is because they know that if they don't they're done 20 years from now always conservative kids are going to be like i vote against you and they're not going to have kids because you know they sterilize and abort them so you know but also the thing is if they do go after the kids and really normalize pedophilia as they're clearly
Starting point is 00:55:39 starting to do and gearing up to do then there's no way for us to win like we've once that is taken from you once they win that there's nothing i i i just disagree, then there's no way for us to win. Like we've, once that is taken from you, once they win that, there's nothing. I just disagree. I mean, there's too much required to get to that point where a conservative can't just move to the middle of nowhere and keep their kids away from this stuff. Yeah, but the fact that you'd have to move to the middle of nowhere to get away from people trying to abuse your kids means you have lost the society. You actually can't do that now because now California and I forget what other state,
Starting point is 00:56:09 but another state as well, have passed laws. Was it Washington? You're talking about the sanctuary thing? So they passed laws that if you're in a marital dispute over your child transitioning, one parent can take that child and go to California, and then that court, that case will be adjudicated in California, not in the state of the other parents. So basically you can kidnap your kid. And then there was another law that was passed in California that was,
Starting point is 00:56:44 I can't remember if it passed or if it's set to be passed, but that's basically instructing judges that when they hear these kinds of cases, essentially telling them to lean in favor of transitioning being in the welfare of the child. So in other words, you can move to wherever you want to, but if you're in the US and you have a dispute with your spouse over this, your spouse could just take your kid to California. So you don't have that safe harbor. We've seen that happen.
Starting point is 00:57:09 And there was also something else I saw the other day about—I'd have to pull up the state again, but they just passed legislation saying that these shelters don't have to report runaways to their parent if they identify as trans, and that's why they've run away. Your kid can check into a residential rehab facility without the consent of their parents. It just takes like a social worker of us or a psychologist saying, yeah, I think that this isn't the kid's best.
Starting point is 00:57:33 And undergo abortion services and also gender transition hormone therapy. I don't know if surgery is included, but some hormone sex change procedures are without the consent of either parent. Yeah. Well, and this is the new paradigm, right?
Starting point is 00:57:45 Historically, our understanding was parents have the final say over what happens to their child. And if the government is going to get involved, they need to prove that they have a very good reason. They need to demonstrate that this child is being abused to the point where the state has to step in. Now it's the exact opposite. The state has the final say over what your kid gets to do.
Starting point is 00:58:03 The parent has to prove that they should have their concerns heard about their own child. The law in California that is just referred to, actually, the law was they took the existing statute, which said that a kid can check into a residential rehab facility if, number one, a psychologist or social worker or something recommends it, and number two, that that kid has been abused or a victim of incest in the household. In those cases, the prior law was in those cases, that kid could go to residential rehab facility without the parents consent. That's a good law. That makes sense, right? The new law just struck out the part about abuse or victim of incest.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Well, they're going to say the parents are the abusers for not willing to transition their kids. Because it's projection. Because it's projection. Because the left never says, says we're not doing that or what we're doing isn't as bad as what you think they say you're doing it we're not abusing these kids you're abusing these kids right so it's state kidnapping yeah that's basically what it is it's the state is allowed to kidnap your kid so like i didn't watch the full video with what biden said i'd watch the little segment where he's talking about you know you're you don't own your kids or whatever so i don't want to speak to what what the context was i don't want to be surprised but with but it is sort of like in the context of these laws that are being passed i feel like like in the i've tweeted about this like
Starting point is 00:59:17 20 years ago the religious right used to talk about how the left wanted to destroy the nuclear family and at the time i thought that was ridiculous and hyperbole, and it probably was ridiculous and hyperbole at the time. But now it's like, well, that's actually what these laws amount to. They're saying that the parent doesn't need to give consent, that the biggest threats to the children come from the parents, and that the state and psychologists and social workers need to take custody of that
Starting point is 00:59:45 kid to protect them from their parents yeah well what sanctuary states now for sex change surgeries yep what did joe biden just say today seamus he said that you don't basically that you don't own your child the nation does he's like it's not your kid it's not someone else's kid it's the nation's kid to paraphrase what a creep yeah it's extremely creepy yeah i get to sniff you can't tell me not to sniff their hair man when you get those hairs in my nostrils um but i i think to what you're saying that it's probably true that your your average liberal person 20 years ago wasn't going about the revolutionary change that they were trying to instate by saying i want to destroy the family but all of the intellectual thought leaders of the left going back decades did openly say that that was their goal.
Starting point is 01:00:28 True. I mean, yeah, the radical fringe of the left was definitely saying those things, like the nuclear family is an oppressive structure, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, and who cares, right? Because there's a radical fringe on the left, there's a radical fringe on the right,
Starting point is 01:00:42 and they're all crazy, and we can just like ignore them for the most part. That used to be the case. And now, I mean, so that on the left, there's a radical fringe on the right, and they're all crazy, and we can just ignore them for the most part. That used to be the case. And now, I mean, so that's the difference, right? It was like normal, normie liberals, and it remains the case that normie liberals don't want to destroy the nuclear family. But we are in a situation in which those radical fringe activists now can't be ignored anymore because they have power over state legislators and they have power over federal legislators, arguably, but certainly state legislators in California. So now this stuff is becoming law. And it's going to spread because
Starting point is 01:01:15 what's happening on the left right now too is they're working with younger people to get them elected into these offices. Moms Demand Action, some of the anti-gun organizations are working with 18 to 24-year-olds to teach them and train them how to get into these positions so they can start changing the law from the inside and expanding that agenda.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Welcome to the new country, I guess. I'm still confident that we're going to win, though. I just think it's math. We can talk about all the things they want to do to kids and how they want to create these sanctuary states, but the reality is if to do to kids and how they want to create these sanctuary states.
Starting point is 01:01:46 But the reality is if you keep your kids away from this cultural influence, they've lost. So I think part of what you're saying is that when people do the right thing and have good ideas and behave virtuously, in the long run, they win because people who are doing bad things and behaving in vicious ways end up eating themselves alive and their society collapses. But if the rot spreads so far within your culture that it completely usurps it, well, then your entire civilization collapses before that good can eventually win out once people try to rebuild from the ashes. And I'm not saying that that's a guarantee here.
Starting point is 01:02:20 What I am saying is I agree with you that in the long run, good wins. But that doesn't mean America is still around 100 years from now now america will be around it just won't be the same and i'm not saying that there won't be a collapse a long fall or a civil war or whatever i'm just i know you're not saying there won't be a civil war yeah the right's gonna win it's basically it's there's like historical precedents very rarely do the the i mean let's put it this way the left they aren't anti-gun liberals are anti-gun yeah the left likes guns but you still can't compare compare a soy boy to like a military veteran and the left likes to show these big fat militia guys and they're like haha like that guy could go toe-to-toe with the national guardsman and it's like dude the national guard would be split the
Starting point is 01:03:00 same as any other part part of this country and i gotta i gotta i got news for these guys the big fat militia guy probably is still better trained with a gun than a soy boy and someone like leftist antifa guy the left has the john brown gun club and like a bunch of these you know the what is it the socialist rifle association or whatever and those guys are probably a lot better with weapons but that big fat militia guy is going to be better than the average thin scrawny vegan soy boy dude i mean isn't it really hyper polarizing though to see these two distinct these distinct individuals the stereotypes on the right you have the stereotype of the morbidly obese militia guy and on the left you have the gaunt and frail antifa guy isn't it kind of weird maybe it's
Starting point is 01:03:40 something to do with being vegan no offense to vegans i got no beef i'm just saying you know a lot of vegans aren't getting enough protein they don't got no beef either bro quite literally no beef no beef yeah so i don't know long story short i just don't see how the left can possibly win if they don't have kids i mean one thing to pay attention to is that a lot of the stuff with the trans stuff and i want to stipulate this by saying i do not have a problem with adults transitioning don't care that's fine do what you want to it's the the kids who who concerns me but a lot of the it's the the bluest cities in the bluest states where a lot of this where the most affirming is happening both not just at the medical level but also in the schools and just at the general culture so it's parents of kids who are gender questioning or whatever
Starting point is 01:04:26 in your Brooklands and in your San Francisco's who are coming face to face with the stark reality of how deep and pervasive this stuff is. And they're getting red pilled. Like when they see this happening to their own kid, their kid is questioning. They're supportive, right? They're like being super supportive.
Starting point is 01:04:44 They know the right things to do. But then they go to the therapist and their therapist is questioning they're supportive right they're like being super supportive they know the right things to do but then they go to the the the therapist that their therapist is like oh well your kid is definitely trans and we need to put them on hormones they're like wait what you can have a trans kid or a dead kid they emotionally blackmail these people mutilate your kid and they might go further even but then the kid starts to regret it and then it becomes this whole mess and then the parents are studying this stuff along the way they're they're looking up you know these are like you know these are like you know uh upper middle class laptop class people they're looking up the medical studies they're reading the medical studies they're realizing that there's actually no medical basis to the claim that that puberty blockers are reversible there all that
Starting point is 01:05:16 stuff and then they start to question everything and then up to 95 percent of dysphoric people grow out of it in puberty right there was a story about a family who said that they're they were very leftist very pro-trans very supportive until one day their son came out and said he was trans and they were like what that's no you're not and so they started talking like to him and to each other like you have no symptoms of this you don't show nothing of this why are why are you saying this when they brought the kid into counselors and stuff the counselor said no he no he's definitely trans and then they said these things aren't true though basically like the kid was saying oh yeah i used to do this i used to do that i used to do this and the parents were like no no that's not true yeah and they
Starting point is 01:05:51 were like you're just denying your your son's lived experience and all of these things and this the family then basically said we realized a lot of this stuff was being pushed on our kid who was just trying to fit in and going along with it and it was freaky to see the whole machine pushing in this direction yeah to make your kid by the, a huge proportion of those kids are autistic as well. Right. This came out with the Tala stock stuff. They don't know how to fit in socially. Right. And so when someone says this is what's socially acceptable, they just agree. Right. It's easy to blame all your problems. If you were abused, you have trauma, whatever, you have other mental disorders, all this stuff,
Starting point is 01:06:26 and it's like somebody comes to you with a solution. They're like, oh, well, all of this is a clear sign of gender dysphoria, and all you have to do is take this drug and everything will be okay. That's just a very seductive proposition to a kid who's— Let's jump to this story, actually, and then we'll carry on this conversation because this is epic. We have this from the Daily Mail. Bud Light's hangover gets worse. Rival Coors Light and Miller Lite sales spike 18% in wake
Starting point is 01:06:49 of Dylan Mulvaney debacle. Check this out. Between April 2nd and April 15th, overall volume of sales of Bud Light at bars and restaurants dropped by 34.7%. Can I get a holy crap? That's massive. So the boycott's certainly working. and i don't know what it is but i mean i i should i should put it this way i have an idea of what i think it is i think what they basically did was they came out and said that that bud light is the beer for effeminate millennials and so all of these you know middle-aged guys was like i don't drink that i don't drink bud light but like already had a bad reputation for being like piss water yeah and but you know who cares if you're at a bar and you're like i just want to get drunk but now it's piss water that's associated with being effeminate and being
Starting point is 01:07:33 you know kind of uncool they've effectively made their brand not cool and so now you've got middle age dudes being like i don't i don't drink that don't look at me yeah right i think it's also just like people don't want this stuff politicized right it's like the same with the nba or you know the whatever it's like people just like they're like get give me a break right let me drink my beer let me watch my basketball game without being pushed with a political message whether whichever side it comes from although it only comes from one side i think that only goes so far because we've seen that with a lot of things video games people are still willing to play a video game that gets politicized if they're like okay fine whatever people are still willing to watch certain tv shows that are like moderately woke to a certain degree so long as
Starting point is 01:08:12 not that in your face right but when it comes to beer i think what they did was they just made the beer they they got a very effeminate individual don't move any to sponsor it and that's the image associated with it now yeah well so if you are a bud light drinker it's you know it's like does some 40 year old dude at a ball game want to be seen as like a dude at a nightclub with a frilly pink dress probably not yeah you made a point a moment ago about how people will watch something on television even though it's woke because they find it entertaining part of the difference is you advertise the things you consume in terms of food or beverage differently than you advertise what you see on tv
Starting point is 01:08:56 you can kind of have a tv show that other people don't know you watch and so you're watching something a little more woke where people wouldn't expect from you but if that's the yeah like if that's the beer you order at the bar or even if you want to drink that beer in secret like it's in your fridge dude shame someone can open and see reruns of will and grace just that's my favorite show ever of course it's a funny show but uh yeah you're right out in public you have to i disavow by't watch Will and Gret. Tim is once again smearing me because Luke was in his DMs crying about the fact that I'm stealing his thunder. And so I'm competition that has to be taken out. But anyway.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Anyway, what was I talking? I totally lost my train of thought because you were talking about potatoes or something. I'm sorry. That is, see, this is like the kind of racism I have to tolerate every single time I'm here. You were talking about the fact that we were just talking about how people can hide the media that they think right when you're out in public and you're drinking a bud light you're making a political statement now do you think how like i guess i feel like you have to ask this about every story now like how much of this stuff has pervaded regular oh this has this has for sure
Starting point is 01:10:00 it's not just like i have people ask me about it when i'm at the casinos or whatever really like i'm at a poker table and people are like yeah what's up with that thing that was weird like i'm not gonna drink that and then there was one uh where you know they have like the the lady will come around asking for drinks and then someone made a crack like not a bud light and then everybody chuckles and i'm like man like people know this well you know it's funny it used to be that people be like i mean people used to ask the question or i still ask the question that i just asked which is like is this just for the terminally online or normie's getting this and actually we're in an age where everybody's terminally online so it's true if it's pervading
Starting point is 01:10:32 your bubble it's pervading a lot of people's bubbles but even so i mean your average person you don't need to be terminally online to say why is this guy in a in a dress and makeup on my beer and when you talk to a lot of people at the casino or just in general i can't speak to your casino experience but you ask them how did you feel about that bud light thing or do you support dylan mulvaney you know maybe if they're more online like we are more into politics they'll sort of launch into their explanation of why it's bad for the culture your average person just like no i don't support that what that's weird i just don't like it but they won't give you right they're not selling those no no not anymore no they were never selling it right oh and so what
Starting point is 01:11:08 what the left said was oh it's all over one commemorative can that wasn't for sale but it's not dylan mulvaney had a video where he had a stack of beer cans and was smiling and being like look drink this stuff and then i don't even know what march madness is so it's like you are insulting your your your core market oh totally and then the vp came out and she was like we don't even know what March Madness is. So it's like you are insulting your core market. Oh, totally. And then the VP came out and she was like, we don't like this frat humor and we want to change our audience. And so it's not only – so that's the thing. I see more than just Domo Veni.
Starting point is 01:11:36 I see they came out and actually spat in the face of their audience. And now the fact that they fired – I'm sorry. I shouldn't say that. They put two VPs, two executives on leave from their marketing team without actually apologizing is they're probably going to the shareholders being like don't worry we got rid of these people but they hate you their former customer so much they won't just apologize nobody asked them to put anybody on leave i did not come on the show and say i demand they remove and fire this woman i said just say we're sorry for sponsoring sponsoring Dylan Mulvaney. We didn't mean to be divisive and to upset anybody. And they were like, no, we're not going to do that. We're going to quietly remove these people
Starting point is 01:12:11 to save our stock because that's what really matters. And then we're going to say nothing to you and hope you just forget about it. Yeah. I mean, they were looking for a class of consumer that was higher status in their view. You know, frat guys, they're embodying toxic masculinity and they're bigoted there's just all sorts of baggage tied up with anything that's involved with fraternity or manhood uh and of course dylan mulvaney it's new trendy in supportive of transgenderism which is the most trendy thing on the planet right now and those people are just better than you and that's why we want their money and not yours that's right now. And those people are just better than you. And that's why we want their money and not yours.
Starting point is 01:12:46 That's right. Because we here at Bud Light are better than you. And we know it. Exactly. And we need better customers. No, they know that they screwed up. Yeah. But I think I'm at the point where I was saying this earlier,
Starting point is 01:12:56 that if they don't issue a formal apology by this week, and I'm not saying to fire anybody, I'm not saying to write a 500-page manifesto. I'm saying outright to be like, we are sorry for sponsoring Dylan Mulvaney. We hope to retain you as customers. We apologize for a divisive ad. You know, thank you and have a nice day. I'd be like, okay, that's it.
Starting point is 01:13:19 That's fine. That's it. I think a lot of people wouldn't, though. I think there is really like a bad taste that's been left in people's mouths at this point that's what i'm saying i'm saying at this point their unwillingness to actually just be like hey our bad we didn't mean to to sponsor this person we know you get pissed off we did not realize who this person was we won't do it again their unwillingness to say anything close to that says to me they literally don't care about you and they don't care if they get you back. So I'm like, at this point, I'm not a Bud Light guy. I'm not an Anheuser guy. I actually
Starting point is 01:13:48 really like Modelo, but I don't drink a whole lot, but I will, I will have no problem saying I will never forgive the company if, if they've gone this far without just being like, Hey, we're sorry about this. So what I would like to say is I will never buy another Bud Light again if they don't apologize this week. But I really don't buy Bud Light. So it's kind of meaningless. I will say this. The events we're doing, we did this in Texas.
Starting point is 01:14:11 We pulled all Anheuser products from the show. Good for you. So anybody who came in, they could not buy it. Not that anyone wanted to. We were making fun of Bud Light the whole time. What do you think the insult is to the consumers exactly? Is it that it's kind of a troll and saying the consumers condescending the consumers got mad they said hey we're upset about this so bud light goes i got an
Starting point is 01:14:30 idea let's ignore them then the boycott persisted over the holiday week holiday weekend and the pundits were like whoa this is crazy conservatives don't normally do this so then bud light was like let's keep ignoring them then on friday they came out and said we don't like to be divisive thank you and everyone's like what what is this statement it's nothing then they put out a commercial about a horse running through america and it runs to new york to never forget 9-11 and it was insulting to do i started getting budweiser ads and i'm like what is this just say sorry so now what's insulting is they keep doing these things without apologizing as if we're too stupid to realize what we're upset about. And instead of apologizing, they put two marketing execs on leave.
Starting point is 01:15:13 That only assuages the fears of shareholders and not customers. And now we're going on to week three without them saying sorry about that, guys. They're clearly at a point where they're like, if we lose this customer base, so be it. F them. The thing is that, while I can understand
Starting point is 01:15:33 why Bud Light Drinkers would be insulted by the company, Dylan Mulvaney himself, I'm just going to say himself, is just this walking insult to half the population of the country of women. But also trans people.
Starting point is 01:15:47 And also trans people, absolutely. He's a parody of trans people. Yep. And he is like, think if you did this, he's like a jigaboo for women. People. Is that the right word? He's just like the equivalent of a racist character. It's like a modern day mental show.
Starting point is 01:16:03 Yes, absolutely. And people say it's woman face. I dillamalvaney is doing trans face right i think it's i i don't draw i guess i don't draw a distinction between the two but no there is there there is and i know everyone's heard me say it but i'll explain it just for your sake seamus and for those that may not have heard it people with gender dysphoria don't sing about their bulges to 10 million people they people gender dysphoria don't sing about their bulges to 10 million people. People with gender dysphoria feel anxiety, and that's what gender dysphoria is. Their body gives them anxiety.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Could you imagine an anorexic person making a video being like, look how fat I am, look how fat I am, and squeezing their rolls? No, that gives them anxiety. They don't want to be fat. Dylan Mulvaney is the opposite of what you'd actually expect from a person suffering gender dysphoria, singing songs about his bulge. What he's done is he's capitalized on the algorithm. He's exploited the left, who will support this to no end, to create a mockery of trans people and women and then get corporate protection and sponsorship to do it.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Yeah. It's really remarkable where we're at. He's actually literally a transphobe. I mean, I think— I don't know if he has—I'm not saying that he has contempt for trans people, but I'm saying that the character that he plays is hateful to trans people. Right. Like even if it's not the intent. Right. Like a
Starting point is 01:17:12 minstrel show. And I think he's I mean, yeah, I think his intent is he's a theater kid who found a shtick that's making him rich and getting a lot of attention. I don't think it's any more complicated than that. Yep. And Dylan Mulvaney has not posted since the controversy started. So we're now going into week three of no posts from dylan mulvaney and i've said this the other day the people who who are in dylan's life family members over need to give him an intervention and
Starting point is 01:17:35 be like stop this it's going too far you know they're like i mentioned this the other day there are trans youtubers pointing out that dylan's not doing things typically associated with being trans doesn't appear to be taking estrogen doesn't appear to be getting actual uh feminization like so dylan got facial surgery but people are pointing out not laser hair removal which is the cheaper and faster procedure but permanent and so the insinuation is dylan expects this to run its course at some point absolutely and then it'll be on to the next thing. Right.
Starting point is 01:18:07 And then Dylan will just be a detransitioner. Yeah. Or just, you know, whatever. Yeah. And Budweiser will have made their bed. I honestly think there's no way Budweiser gets out of this. They tried doing the Clydesdale commercial to be like, we're patriotic and we love America, but they already have become the brand of Dylan Levine.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Are you telling me that in addition to the bank industry failing and the entire media failing, Budweiser is going to fail too? I don't know about failing. I'm just saying their brand is this now. They're the brand of pride parades and things like that. Yeah. And I don't care about that, but there's going to be a lot of middle-aged dudes who don't want to be that.
Starting point is 01:18:43 You know, it's like, why do people dress a certain way? Why do people choose to wear certain clothes? They want to portray an image to other people. Social acceptance is extremely important to people. So for a suburban middle-class dad who wants to be seen as a strong man around his friends, who doesn't want to be seen as weak, pathetic, and effeminate, he ain't drinking Bud Light anymore, probably never again. The thing I would take issue with the way you described it before, though, or the thing
Starting point is 01:19:10 that I think is just a little bit outdated is that the idea that you're right, that his performance is completely at odds with the idea of somebody with actual gender dysphoria, but the discourse has moved on to a point where you don't have to have gender dysphoria. In fact, it's considered insulting by some trans activists to insist that somebody needs to have gender dysphoria to be trans because it's gone from what was considered a mental disorder to what was considered just kind of like a condition that you could be treated for and healed from, to essentially a lifestyle choice. It's like you just choose.
Starting point is 01:19:51 And so Dylan Mulvaney is a very good portrayal of that. All you have to do is announce it. Well, part of the utility of gender dysphoria for the transgender movement and that label is it also did place a pathology on it that a person could be suffering with and trying to escape, whereas the view of them as autogynephiliacs for example which many of them are who knows how you can quantify it but which is just a person who's sexually aroused by the thought of them being themselves as the opposite sex is something people are far less comfortable with because then the aap as well the aap auto
Starting point is 01:20:20 angiopause yes yes yes exactly which is the the female woman who's aroused, conceptualizing herself as a man, because then what you have to admit is that you are being forced to participate in someone else's sexual fetish. Which is a lot of it. Which is a lot harder to justify to the public in the short term.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Now, in the long run, if they really do continue to win the culture war in the ways that they have and we don't keep pushing back, they're eventually just going to start openly admitting, yes, there is autogynephilia
Starting point is 01:20:44 and autoandrophilia. They already are. and that's okay, and you should still be forced to participate in their fetish. That's what I think the Leah Thomas controversy was. The NCAA swimmer, the male, was apparently posting things on social media about being was AGP, they call it, which is to imply that this individual is being excited, in a matter of speaking, by forcing other people to participate in this fantasy. Exactly, which is at the very least something we would have called sexual harassment several years ago. Saying, I'm going to go into the women's locker room and force them to say that I'm a woman because that gets me off.
Starting point is 01:21:21 That's predatory in and of itself. It's not a question of of is this person going to physically assault someone while they're in there you're already forcing them to engage in sexual fantasy and role play with you let's let's do a hard segue here because i have this story from timcast.com georgia da puts police on heightened security amid potential midsummer indictment of trump multiple legal experts believe she will follow through with criminal charges and uh i think so. But the story was written by Adrian Norman, so I'll throw it to you. What's going on? What's going on is the continuation of the, what, five-year-now saga we have of the Get
Starting point is 01:21:55 Trump Mafia, who are looking at any other way to try to get this guy and stop him from returning back to the White House. I mean, we've got the case in New York with... Alvin Bragg. Alvin Bragg, yeah. We've got the special prosecutor in D.C. who's after him, and now we've got the case in New York with Alvin Bragg. We've got the special prosecutor in D.C. who's after him. And now we've got Fannie Willis in Georgia. And I think they're trying to throw a bunch of stuff to the wall and see what sticks. And the federal indictment now where they've got his Secret Service testifying against them. So we're looking at, was it three?
Starting point is 01:22:21 But it's probably going to be more. At least three. Yeah, New York, federal, and Georgia. They are going to indict Trump. And then I guess my question for the panel is, do you think Trump gets convicted in any of these jurisdictions? The Georgia one is over the, I hope, looking for votes thing? Yeah, the 2020 election when he was on the phone with a state official saying,
Starting point is 01:22:42 hey, can you find votes? So that is a much, much, much more serious case than this garbage in New York. Absolutely. They're trying to hit him with RICO charges. Right. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty serious stuff.
Starting point is 01:22:54 And again, it's, I mean, if you follow the case at all, you know, it's very clear that he wasn't intent on engaging in any sort of fraud, but they had thought that fraud had occurred because there were so many anomalies and problems that occurred in the election and so many questions that were raised. But obviously, you know, one of Trump's greatest flaws, and this has been the case since he ran for office, is that he's very imprecise. And he says things that allow you to easily misinterpret what his actual intent is. Or intentionally. Well, yeah. Pull out of context. So, you know, in his pursuit for what was really
Starting point is 01:23:27 sort of a righteous cause and saying, hey, you know, we think that there was a mistake that was made with a certain number of votes. Find out what's true, what's not. They're misinterpreting the entire tenet of his phone call, his team's investigation, to frame it as though he was trying to rig the outcome of the election when he wasn't.
Starting point is 01:23:43 He was simply trying to discover whether or not election fraud had actually occurred. But I don't think that that matters. I think they will make up any reason to go after him. The documents thing, New York, New York, they're going to convict him. I just, I do not see a New York
Starting point is 01:23:58 jury acquitting Donald Trump. I don't, and this is going to be in Georgia, but it's probably going to be in a more urban district, I imagine, when they bring him down. I don't know how he's going to, if he's going to be in Georgia, but it's probably going to be in a more urban district, I imagine, when they bring him down. I don't know if he's going to try and make some argument for a different venue in the state or something that's more favorable, which makes no sense. And then you also have the E. Jean Carroll thing where I guess Trump didn't show up. Is that what happened? Were you following that?
Starting point is 01:24:20 No. All I saw was that people were tweeting Trump's a no-show at the E. Jean Carroll case. She's accusing him of rape from like 50 years ago or something. And, yep, they got it in the courts. I got this. You guys might not agree with this. This might make me unpopular. But I do think that he was looking for votes. I mean, I do think that he was trying to to to look for. You know, I think he was trying to pressure the state to throw the election to him. So that's why I think it's a much more serious case. I mean, I don't, I don't, I, I, I will like plead ignorance that it's not something that I followed very
Starting point is 01:24:51 closely. I just know the top lines like everybody else. It just, it just, it just, it's. But how do you find votes? What does it even mean? Like in the worst possible interpretation? I don't know that he had a specific plan for what he was trying to ask of them. I think he was just trying to exert his influence and say, do what you need to do. You're the Secretary of State. Do what you need to do to, you know, do what you need to do.
Starting point is 01:25:15 And I don't want to know what it is, is basically what he's saying. But you're going to find the votes to deliver George to me. That's what I think he was trying to communicate. But you reported this out. I mean, we have the full transcript of the call. So we know exactly what was said. And again, it's one of those things where Trump is Trump. He says some things that oftentimes can be misinterpreted. And I think that's what happened. And you have liberal media establishments that run with these narratives. And the truth makes it around the world before the, excuse me,
Starting point is 01:25:41 the lie makes it around the world before the truth has boots on. And I think there were so many stories that were being pushed to the mainstream media regarding this particular story that framed it in a certain way. It didn't even matter what the truth was at that point. Yeah. Get the transcript up? Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to try and see if I can.
Starting point is 01:26:00 What is this? Trump says, thank you very much. Hello, Brad and Ryan, blah, blah, blah. We're getting 20, 30, 25, 30,000, blah, blah. We're getting 25 to 30,000 people at a rally. We have a number of things. We have at least two or three, anywhere from 250 to 300,000 ballots
Starting point is 01:26:12 were dropped mysteriously into the rolls. Much of that had to do with Fulton County, which hasn't been checked. We think that if you check the signatures, a real check of the signatures
Starting point is 01:26:19 going back to Fulton County, you'll find at least a couple hundred thousand forged signatures of people who have been forged, and we are quite sure that's going to happen. But I mean, that is just Trump's speculation. He was wanting them to go and look for it. So in that context, I'd say this. If Trump was like,
Starting point is 01:26:34 hey, do a signature verification, because I bet those are no good signatures, is that trying to swing an election? No, but I don't think that he would personally make that phone call, right? Like the president of the United States is calling and saying, hey, we've got this report. Like you would run that through somebody else if that was seriously your goal. It just seems like a personal phone call from the president saying, this is fishy and I want you to act on it. Yeah, but he's the president. You think he's going to try to swing an election when everything he's doing is recorded and he's in a room full of advisors? But it's not just that.
Starting point is 01:27:02 I mean, what he's saying right here is— Maybe. Yeah. Let's just remove it from trump if an individual says i believe there was impropriety here and i and i and i think you should allow us to check for it is is that above board or or you know the problem is that like we could you know this would be like how it would go in a courtroom where we would be parsing these words and trying to figure out the literal meaning and discern the intent from actual evidence, which is how you should litigate. But really, this is an exercise just right here in mind reading. We have no idea. So it's totally intuitive.
Starting point is 01:27:38 So let me read you the full quote from Donald Trump. And I'll stress, too, i think he's wrong about the fraud narrative um i do think there's issues with you know time in time magazine they wrote the shadow campaign you see the article the shadow campaign to save the election yes they wrote what they did and how they did it it was procedural it was through government it was with deals over a year and it was shutting down entertainment which resulted in a mass amount of mail-in ballots, then I think the question is, if, if, if, how do I phrase this? People are saying it's fraud when in reality it may be just like lower standards, meaning
Starting point is 01:28:17 ballots came in through, through mail-in voting and they were just like, this one's probably fine. As opposed to in the past, they'd be like, we're going to scrutinize the signature. So this is what Trump said. He says, let me see. I'm going to have to read more because, well, whatever. He says, you're going to find that they are, which is totally illegal, is more illegal for you than it is for them because you know what they did and you're not reporting it. That's criminal.
Starting point is 01:28:39 That's a criminal offense and you can't let that happen, blah, blah, blah. He says, and they were moving machinery and they're moving it as fast as they can, both of which are criminal fines and you can't let it happen, blah, blah, blah. He says, and they were moving machinery and they're moving it as fast as they can, both of which are criminal fines and you can't let it happen and you are letting it happen. You know, I mean, I'm notifying you that you're letting it happen. So look, all I want to do is this.
Starting point is 01:28:54 I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state. And flipping the state is a great testament to our country because, because you know, this is a testament that they can admit to a mistake or whatever. want to call it. If it was a mistake, I don't know. A lot of people, a lot of people think it wasn't a mistake. It was much more
Starting point is 01:29:12 criminal than that, but it's a big problem in Georgia and it's not a problem that's going away. I mean, you know, it's not a problem that's going away. So this one snippet in context is Trump saying, I believe there was criminal action in your state and i want you to actually have an investigation of it and they just said no to him and he says look i'm just saying we need to i want to find 11 000 the context that i see there is for one i think trump pushing the criminal thing was a was a was was like a a heavy handed threat claiming fraud was to try and scare them into actually doing it. But Trump is basically saying to them, I believe there are ballots with bad signatures. I believe that if you investigate, you will see hundreds of thousands. And I just
Starting point is 01:29:58 need to find 11,780 of them to win. I mean, it's possible that it's both of what we're describing, because he could have truly believed that he won the state. And he could have truly believed that there was fraud, but the way he went about, but he but he also was single mindedly focused on flipping the state, which he says in the statement, and he's leaning on the Secretary of State in a totally inappropriate way, saying, get in light of all this, do what you need to do to deliver the election to me, because I deserve it, because I actually want it. I mean, let's say there's no reason to get any more votes than you actually need to win. That's actually a legal standard. So when it comes to these lawsuits, one of the big things
Starting point is 01:30:42 we found was that you can't actually file a lawsuit unless you can justify just enough votes to actually have one. So there's an argument that suing for a number that it's like to an extreme degree would be would be deemed like gratuitous. It's like if you file a lawsuit, if you can prove one more vote than you needed to win, you have standing. But my point is this. Let me ask you. If you were involved in a competition, let's call it an origami competition, and then you folded 1,000 paper cranes and then noticed that a bunch of the paper cranes on the other side you believed looked suspicious, what's the appropriate way to going to go about checking to make sure your opponents were were on the level if you go to the judges and say hey i think those cranes are fake well by your standard you're saying that you're putting undue pressure on the judges to allow you to win do i in this situation am i somebody who has you're the
Starting point is 01:31:39 reigning champion power over the judges though well as the reigning champion and the fan favorite you know right but there's a concern that if you don't win people are going to be mad but the but power over the judges though? Well, as the reigning champion and the fan favorite, there's a concern that if you don't win, people are going to be mad. But he's leaning on somebody who is in his political party, who's part of the political apparatus that he's the head of. But he has no power over Georgia State election officials. And the issue I take with your argument is that
Starting point is 01:31:59 if there ever is any impropriety, the only thing you can do is give up and submit to those. I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is that I think that he was doing something inappropriate. I think that his intent was to basically bully his way into having Georgia delivered to him. I'm not making any judgments about— You don't think that mind reading is a bad legal standard? That what?
Starting point is 01:32:22 You don't think that mind reading is a bad legal standard? No, I'm just saying my opinion. I'm not a lawyer. I'm not arguing. I'm not litigating. So the issue is you've made a determination about Georgia.
Starting point is 01:32:32 You've then determined that anyone who opposes that determination is doing something nefarious. You see my point? Well, you're trying, it seems like you're asking me to take my standard
Starting point is 01:32:42 and apply it as a universal standard. And I'm not prepared to do that. What I'm saying is if I don't know and don't have the evidence of an outcome, I would expect certification and confirmation. If a woman goes to the police and says this man committed a crime against me, I would expect the police to actually do some kind of preliminary investigation. Not necessarily condemn the guy or charge him or arrest him, but to be like, we'll look into it. If a politician goes to the police and says that their daughter had been brutally assaulted and raped and the cops were like, well, I'm not going to do anything about it. And the guy says, look, I'm just asking you to go and investigate the guy. That is not,
Starting point is 01:33:20 in my opinion, undue pressure to, for, for a politician to get some kind of legal outcome. It's literally what everyone is supposed to do if they feel something bad happened. I think Trump, I don't know what happened in Georgia. I think Trump's fraud narrative is wrong. I think they explained exactly how they won with the shadow campaign changing procedural rules. Trump's argument here is that they were lax on voter on voter signature verification and that if they looked into it, they would probably find hundreds of thousands. I don't know if that's true or not. It's immaterial. The issue is they didn't actually check. And the only way you'd actually
Starting point is 01:33:56 seek to rectify a problem like that is to go to them and say, do it. Yeah. So my issue is while I disagree with Trump, I don't see any other way to seek remedy other than asking someone to do a verification of it. Well, this is obviously not a hill I'm prepared to die on. But I would say that what you guys are saying is totally fair. I think that this is the basis for a case because like if he if it's as you say, and it's all in the up and up, then that's going to be the defense's position. And if they is, but if it is the case that he was trying to sway the election and up, then that's going to be the defense's position. But if it is the case that he was trying to sway the election inappropriately,
Starting point is 01:34:27 that's a serious offense. So I'm just saying that it's a serious case, unlike, for example, Stormy Daniels, which is totally frivolous. Well, let me ask you this. What if they do go back and find, actually, we found 12,000 mismatched signatures? Would you then think Trump was acting inappropriately
Starting point is 01:34:43 if they confirmed that he was right? It would definitely change the context of my thinking but they didn't actually go back and and take trump's request seriously so then we'll never know but then so how could you have a negative view if they didn't do anything you know what i mean like if they went back and said trump was wrong then i'd agree with you i'd be like wow trump was totally wrong so uh trump trump trump's argument here was mismatched signatures. And it's like, well, I don't know, maybe they didn't try. I mean, the fraud stuff, I certainly think is wrong. That was weird. That was like Dominion and stuff and the CIA and all
Starting point is 01:35:14 that was out of the question. Yeah. But arguing about lax signature verification policies, something totally different. Yeah. So your point is since it didn't amount to anything. This podcast is supported by Talkspace. When my husband came home from his military deployment, readjusting was hard for all of us. Thankfully, I found Talkspace. Talkspace provides professional support from licensed therapists
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Starting point is 01:36:31 i think it's inappropriate to be like how dare you ask that question person a when a judge should be like okay show me your evidence and then the person will be like here's a list of things i think justifies my claim and the judge should then be like person's a list of things i think justifies my claim and the judge should then be like person b do you have a counter claim to to refute this and then if investigation is like if there's probable cause then a court should be like okay we're going to grant a signature verification request to see if these claims are accurate i mean it's sort of like okay to take an extreme example if you were to if you're an elected official, and you went to somebody and you're like, you're like, listen, you know, it seems like you might need help with your daughter's private school education. And like,
Starting point is 01:37:14 like, does that have interest to you? And oh, by the way, I'm looking for this particular favor. And you're saying everything short of, you know, directly offering a bribe, you could you could have the same litigation around whether this was entirely, maybe he was just trying to help out her daughter, the person's daughter who was going to private school, you know, and like, like, you would come down to this mind reading thing, or you could look at the totality of the circumstances and say, this looks a lot like, like a bribe. But I think that situation, it's easier to make a quid pro quo, right? Because Trump doesn't say specifically, I could do this thing for you. Yeah, he just said, hey, I think this thing happened. Will you check? And they said no. And then he was like, are you kidding me? And they're like, no, go away. And then your
Starting point is 01:37:54 attitude is like, how dare Trump ask for a remedy to a perceived problem? If someone, so there's a few questions around this. I mean, if we're dealing with matters of public interest, then I don't think the Fourth Amendment plays a role. If the government is involved in something, then the government has a right to publish to the people the results of a search. I don't see how it makes sense that I'll put it this way. If someone came to me, if someone to the cops and said, you know, Tim Pool stole my spoons. The cops would be like, we'll talk to him and we'll see what's going on. And then if they can't get any probable cause to get a warrant, too bad, so sad, have a nice day. And that's it. However, if it's a group of police officers are carrying a bunch of spoons, and then one person says, they stole my spoons. And another
Starting point is 01:38:41 person says, actually, they didn't,'t you're lying and then a person calls the police chief and says i i you look just look in the police locker room and if the spoons are there that proves it i don't see that as undoing like if a politician did it it doesn't matter if the fact the fact is we're dealing with an election the smartest thing in the world to do would be for georgia to be like you know what, so that we can throw out all confusion, we absolutely will do the check and prove to you you're wrong. Instead, they said, we're going to arrest you and criminally indict you for daring to ask. I'm applying the same standard that I would apply to the situation that we discussed earlier in which Tony Blinken called Michael Morrell and he said, I'm very concerned about the possibility of
Starting point is 01:39:26 Russian interference in the election around the Hunter Biden laptop story. But he never asked, according to Morell's testimony, he never said, could you write this letter, et cetera. But Michael Morell took his marching orders. And you could say, maybe Tony Blinken was just concerned about Russian disinformation. But you're insinuating that Trump was secretly instructing them to fabricate ballots. Is that what you're saying? I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:39:52 I'm not sure that he even had it that well thought out. I think it's much more crass than that. It's just like, do what you need to do. But this is my priority. Go do it. I don't want to dogpile, but I just want to make a point about the analogy. I think part of where it breaks down is with Blinken, they all came out and said this was Russian disinformation,
Starting point is 01:40:16 even though it wasn't. I think that's what makes that situation different and really egregious is they ended up saying something that wasn't true for a political campaign. Well, let's go to Super Chats because we're not going to resolve that one, but I think we met our points. And then if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, become a member at TimCast.com, click the join us on the website. You'll get access to our Discord server to hang out with like-minded individuals and access to the members-only uncensored show, which will be front page at about 10 10 p.m but for now we will read what y'all have to say in the super chats i'm not your buddy guy says it's sad seeing heroes who stand up being
Starting point is 01:40:54 crushed whether it's julian assange james o'keefe donald trump or tucker carlson globalism is slavery or captain by the way luke was in chat saying seamus is a dog and then later a dirty dog so he's still upset that is deeply offensive i know all right coldy locks production says i deleted fox news app unsubbed from them on youtube and unfollowed them on rumble and apple news watch they showed their true colors this week and legacy media can go fade to nothing. Hear, hear, good sir. All right. SA Federali says, Tim, Stephen Crowder says Rumble is under DDoS while they grow. You need to get Tucker and Zero Hedge under that umbrella.
Starting point is 01:41:34 I pay at least 20 bucks a month or 40 bucks for a good option to show the hand of the market beats communism. Yup, yup. All right. What do we got? Max Reddick says, Tim Tim I know you and Crowder are friends but can we put that aside for a minute to acknowledge that he was crappy to Daily Wire and Dave Landau
Starting point is 01:41:51 accused Candace Owens of extortion and now he used his divorce as a grift crappy I don't know at all what's going on man earlier there was a video from Crowder talking about a divorce and insinuating he played like a clip of Candace Owens and insinuated he was being extorted or something then Candace Owens said that he's accusing her of extortion it's like dude I ain't got nothing to do with that nor do I know and the
Starting point is 01:42:13 there's there's I'm you know we talked about the Landau thing and then I'm hearing other people comment that it's not true like uh Crowder was shouting out Landau's comedy dates and stuff and I'm like look man i'm not here to get into fights with with people like crowder or candace or whatever because i got no idea what their thing is you know what i mean i had nothing to do with me they're already fighting with me and i'm a far more formidable foe oh yeah yeah they're coming after seamus no i'm fighting with you i'm saying you already have this war with me oh right right right you know like i woke up in the morning and all potatoes were gone.
Starting point is 01:42:45 Yeah, it's true. I was like, you want to make racist jokes? I'll show you. I'll take all the potatoes. But it really backfired. I was like, why does Seamus have all the potatoes? I was like, it's not like it's because. Well, it actually backfired because we were going to make hash browns for Seamus for breakfast.
Starting point is 01:42:57 Yeah. And we couldn't find the potatoes. Oh, actually, that was really thoughtful of you guys. It was very hurtful to your Irish heart. It was. I just felt it was like that actually would have that would have been enjoyable and that was a thoughtful plan yeah and we were going to sprinkle lava salt on it that's right it's a special kind of very special salt could you do it tomorrow maybe uh
Starting point is 01:43:15 you have to get back to potatoes yeah that's not gonna happen but okay so all right what do we got lithian cross says could all this be a media purging campaign a lot of big personalities have been either removed or attacked. James O'Keefe being where it all began. Isn't that crazy? James O'Keefe, Don Lemon, Tucker Carlson, Nate Silver, BuzzFeed News in its entirety. Wow. I didn't even know about the James O'Keefe thing until like a couple hours ago.
Starting point is 01:43:38 What happened? Why was he fired from Veritas? He resigned. He was ousted, put on yeah because a letter circulated within the company accusing him of just impropriety which was clearly bs like financial no well sort of they claimed that he he like was using company funds for a wedding but it was like a veritas what i so i heard there's two stories first they said he used company funds for his wedding venue then someone said no that was for the veritas corporate party. And then someone else said, actually, it was for his wedding.
Starting point is 01:44:07 When that got canceled, he just used it for the Veritas party. And I'm like, I literally don't care. So like James O'Keefe, as far as I'm concerned, should be getting paid five times as much money than he is. We can see the 990s for Veritas. We saw how much he was making. I think it was like 300 to 400k or whatever and i'm like this dude got raided by the feds is doing some of those consequential journals in the world if anyone deserves to be
Starting point is 01:44:31 wealthy off their job it's james o'keefe so the fact that they were like and he used the money to uh set up a corporate party but it was really because he couldn't get a refund back for a wedding i'm like so what well i don't care if the company bought him a McLaren. You know, like, give the guy a trophy made of gold. The real story is he went undercover to marry somebody. That's right. Yeah, he was filming them the entire time when he wanted to, like, live out a whole marriage with some lefties so he could really, really expose them.
Starting point is 01:44:57 That's why they were allowed to have Veritas pay for the wedding. All right, what is this? What is this? SA Federali. Max is actually grifting. Candace went low. Steven never did anything wrong. Who's Max?
Starting point is 01:45:09 What are they referring to? Max? Max who? No idea. Yeah, who's Max? All right. Scrubby McScrubberson says, Tim, M and Bundy
Starting point is 01:45:17 put on FBI Most Wanted list, issued default judgment by judge and property was surrounded. He held a massive barbecue to avoid a standoff. We had him on the show. It was great. martin edgar says stand your grounds needs to be a triple shot cappuccino blend oh my well that's that's a challenge um espresso blends are darker and that has less caffeine in it you know lighter roasts have more caffeine so we would we would
Starting point is 01:45:42 want to do like a light espresso roast so that it would probably have a higher caffeine concentration you know all right infernal saxon says wizards of the coast sent to the pinkertons after someone i don't know if you guys heard the story but wizards of the coast they uh they make magic the gathering there's this guy he got sent a set of cards that hasn't come out yet and what he thinks happened is there's a set called um what is it what is it called something machines or whatever and then there was a new set that's got the same name as his aftermath he went to a dealer who said i've got these boxes he bought them then he realized wait wait these don't come out for a week you know or for like two weeks
Starting point is 01:46:20 so he made a video about it and then wizardards of the Coast hired the Pinkerton security agency to go to his house and shake him down and seize his property from him. And he gave it to him. That's the weirdest thing. Why would you do that? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:46:31 You don't have a right to this? He was like, they were saying they'd replace the product and they're trying to figure out how it got out. And what he said was he thinks someone sent it out
Starting point is 01:46:39 by accident. But I don't care. If I legitimately purchased something and a private security company took to my house yeah the first thing i'm going to say is by entering my property you're already committing burglary because we have a physical barrier so you can gtfo right now or i will defend my property is this the nerd john wick who ends up fighting a bunch of private security
Starting point is 01:46:58 task force people to the death because they stole his he got yeah it'd be better if it was like no they break into his house yeah exactly they come into his house to take his yugo cards and he just gets into a gunfight with them i mean john wick was over a puppy though right which is all but we all we all understand that we can understand look it's it's a lovable little dog this dude is like he took my cards his wife got the dog yeah when she died right right and so they killed the dog john wick's awesome i gotta watch part four i haven't seen it. I haven't seen it either. Yeah, it just came out.
Starting point is 01:47:28 John Wick's a good story. The first one's the best one. The rest are just good fun. But the first one's like such a good story. Yeah, I saw the first one. I didn't see any of the other ones. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:47:39 SA Federali says, Mug Club is the best thing since Murdoch became Bud Light. What? Let's make a sponsorship now for Tucker Carlson and Zero Hedge. I'd pay more than my mortgages. I mean, that's up to them, you know. I don't know what Tucker Carlson's going to do. It's going to be up to them to start something.
Starting point is 01:47:56 Alright, Servi Rose says, please stop calling CBDC's crypto. They may be ledgers and they may use blockchain as a data store, but they are not decentralized. Crypto doesn't mean decentralized. And there's a lot of cryptocurrencies that are centralized. Like Ethereum is, I believe Ethereum for the most part is centralized. I actually had a question about, I was asking a friend who knows much more about this than I do, and you guys do too, but about the new currency. So isn't the whole purpose of blockchain that
Starting point is 01:48:24 you don't create anymore, right? There's only a finite amount out there? No, no. I'm getting it totally wrong. Bitcoin is finite. Okay. Dogecoin is not. Dogecoin is inflationary.
Starting point is 01:48:32 Okay. So Dogecoin is actually fairly smart. And although it's based on a meme, people need to understand, like, it's kind of legit. I do own a little bit, full disclosure. But the idea with Dogecoin is that the monetary supply
Starting point is 01:48:42 increases by a certain percentage every year so that there is a controlled volume increase, which does make sense. So with this new currency, would the Fed still have the ability to be able to create money and restrict the creation? Easily. They would never, right? They would never issue a currency that they couldn't create, manipulate, make more of. So then what exactly is the difference between what we're talking about and just cash, or like cash in the form of numbers on a screen?
Starting point is 01:49:09 Every transaction is tracked in a ledger so they can see everywhere you've gone, plug it into an AI, and then follow you every step of your existence. Well, CBDCs are also programmable so they can prevent you from spending your money on certain purchases like guns. So this is terrible.
Starting point is 01:49:22 Absolutely. Very bad for us. So what'll happen is there are things you do in your life purchases like guns so this is terrible yeah absolutely yeah very bad for us so it's what will happen is there are things you do in your life that you do not realize correlate so what we found is facebook for instance knows when you poop they know when you're going to poop yeah because what they found is i'm not on facebook do they know when i yes yes they do you are on facebook you're wrong right right facebook has something called shadow profiles. You know shadow profiles? Yeah, yeah, totally.
Starting point is 01:49:47 So what they'll do is they'll say, if a person moves three meters within a span of 20 seconds and then stops and pauses, and it's between the time period of 7 a.m. and 9 p.m., there is a 73.9% chance they'll go to the bathroom within 10 minutes. Jesus. Because the AI can see patterns we can't see. So now plug in a CBDC, a central bank digital currency. They will have pre-crime. They will say there is a 97% chance that when someone goes to this location and to that location, a day later,
Starting point is 01:50:21 they will purchase a narcotic from this location and they will be waiting for you with pre-crime agents and an old man being like precogs have found that you are going to buy drugs and then you'll be like ah this is something for people to understand about the censorship industrial complex because i think people probably think of it as like a bunch of you know spies and hall monitors just like doing google google searches looking for people spreading this quote-unquote disinformation or twitter searches whatever and that is some of it but most of it the overwhelming majority of it was driven by ai so already like i'm not talking about the future i'm talking about like like the stanford internet
Starting point is 01:50:58 observatory and all these groups would would would had ai algorithms that would run sort of searches based on themes. And then they would catch hundreds of thousands and millions of social media posts within that bucket. And then they would send it to the platforms. So that was already happening. The AI is getting better and better. The future that we're afraid of with the censorship industrial complex stuff is that it's all going to be run on AI, and the AI is going to dwarf what we have now. It's already happened.
Starting point is 01:51:30 Everything that you see, everything that you read, everything that you post is going to be filtered through AI that either increases it or throttles it for viewers and controls what you see. And that's what they're trying to construct. That's the... I think it's already been constructed. Yeah. And we're just seeing the surface that's already existed for a long time. All right, here's a scary one.
Starting point is 01:51:54 David Kirkpatrick said Sandy Spring Bank had to pull 21 million out of reserves to cover losses and is now laying off 60. This is driven by the Fed's rate increases. The bank did too many low rate loans and is losing money. Yeah think it's uh gonna collapse and then they're gonna introduce cbdc the the working theory i have maybe i'm wrong i don't know i don't know how probability is is that they're gonna there's gonna be a bunch of banks that collapse they're gonna come in and say you've
Starting point is 01:52:20 been rescued download our app and we will transfer your funds into uh you know govcoin or whatever they'll call it and then people are going to do with glee they're going to be like oh no my money's all gone the bank collapsed and they're going to what's going to happen is the republicans are going to be like no no no and the democrats are going to be like yes yes yes and people are going to be like the democrats need like the government needs to do this how am i supposed to pay my employees how am i supposed to pay my employees? How am I supposed to pay my bills? And then everyone's going to go and vote Democrat. The Democrats are going to rubber stamp the CBDC.
Starting point is 01:52:50 And then your bank is going to dissolve. But the app will have all of your funds in it. Here it comes. Yep. They will make you beg for the servitude. That's smart. You know, if you try to impose this on people, they're going to resist. You make them beg you for it.
Starting point is 01:53:08 That's the case with the censorship stuff. People are... It's coming from the top down, but it's also coming from the bottom up. People are demanding this stuff. Alright, let's get some more super chats. I have to point something out. Luke's still talking smack on the chat, and he missed a
Starting point is 01:53:24 great opportunity for a pun. Luke, I want you to be better at this, so I'm going to critique your insult. He said Shameless is already on Leprechaun coin. You should have said Leprecoin. I mean, it's unbelievable, dude. It does say Leprecoin. Leprecoin coin? Then he wrote coin twice. Foolish. Two coins? That's how you get inflation, idiot.
Starting point is 01:53:47 Yeah, Luke's so dumb luke's so dumb get better at it bro all right sam says in back to the future 2 in 2015 marty is asked to donate to a charity by thumbing a hundred dollars by scanning his thumb for a funds transfer isn't it funny that back to the future 2 took place in 2015 and it was exactly it was exactly like that i know i mean it's crazy because in 2015. And it was exactly like that. I know. I mean, it's crazy because in 2015, I was riding around Times Square on a hoverboard while sharks and dinosaurs were coming out of the ads. This is what they took from us. We do have the 3D ads, though, now.
Starting point is 01:54:14 If you go to Times Square and you look at the ad that's bent, it looks like three-dimensional. Really? Yeah. Because it's at an angle, and then the way the video is. So if you're looking straight at it from one side, it looks really weird. But if you're standing at the right angle, it looks three-dimensional. Like it's coming out of the end.
Starting point is 01:54:30 Wow. Yeah. Some Blade Runner. What do we got next? Joe Spinell says, BlackRock increased its stock ownership of Fox to over 15% in February. I'm pretty certain those at BlackRock aren't fans of Tucker. Yep. Tyler Bachman says, I have narcolepsy.
Starting point is 01:54:46 I take modafinil. You're good for about 8 to 12 hours. Haven't encountered dry skin in the 5 years I've been taking the drug. The drug is one of 3 drugs that allows me to have a relatively normal life. Oh, wow. Captain Caveman says, Is Seamus Ian's replacement asking for a friend? No. Seamus
Starting point is 01:55:01 is Luke's replacement. That's right. Yeah. Ian's just, uh, where is he? He looks straight into the camera. That's right. Yeah. Ian's just, where is he? He looks straight into the camera. That's right. You're never coming back, Luke. This is my seat now. Enjoy. Enjoy obscurity.
Starting point is 01:55:15 You know what we'll do? To be fair to Luke, we'll give Luke 48 hours to come back. And if he doesn't, we'll write Seamus on the chair. That's right. It's my chair chair you won't be so so so there you go you're afraid we are change writes shameless likes to drink bug bug light as he tries to kick helpless dogs luke you should say that a fourth time in chat i bet it'll get even funnier is it the fourth time he said it that's like the fourth time he said it yeah bug
Starting point is 01:55:41 light bug light i think you eat bugs he doesn't know how to spell he was he says no one can replace me well to be you know luke you're right so if you're here within 48 hours we'll give you your chair back otherwise we're writing seamus on it that's right i will i will take a silver paint marker and i will write seamus on the chair that's gonna hurt sorry buddy um captain caveman says what's a potato's favorite tv show starch trek wow uh i heard someone someone in chat uh who actually made a clever pun about bud light said spud light is what i drink but i said that's pretty good this this potato thing all started because i was watching leprechaun i think it was leprechaun too i'm not sure yes and seamus walks in and he's like what are you watching?
Starting point is 01:56:25 And he looks at the screen, and there's a guy turning Irish because he got bit by a leprechaun. And he orders from the waitress. This really happens in the movie. He's like, I want mashed potatoes, french fries, tater tots, and waffle fries. And he's eating a whole bunch of different french fries. And Seamus just turns and sees this guy, and he's like, what is this? This is the most racist thing I've ever seen.
Starting point is 01:56:44 I can't believe this but no no joke the guy gets bitten by the leprechaun and starts turning irish that's literally what happens yeah and he starts embodying all these irish stereotypes what but potatoes this is this is our representation in media but the messed up thing is potatoes aren't even endemic to ireland that's a lie that's a dirty lie they were introduced to ireland stop it stop it you're a liar you're like no that is true that's a lie it's a dirty lie they were introduced to ireland stop it stop it you're a liar you're like no that is true technically but so basically it's metaphorically false the leprechaun movie was using the potato famine as like a stereotype about irish people because they didn't have because they didn't have potatoes you can say anything about it listen
Starting point is 01:57:20 irish people weren't considered white until being white meant you had to apologize for being white all the time like it's just we're the group that everyone can make fun of and crap on but we're gonna get sick of it jonathan howe says tim please get tucker on irl yes just like i love when people are just like you should have trump on the show i'm like yeah we should it's great you should get tucker uh-huh all right you know and brad pitt maybe tom cruise talk at the same time talk if you're listening, don't come on. Tim doesn't deserve it. He doesn't deserve your presence.
Starting point is 01:57:50 Come on to Shamer, rumble.com slash Shamer. Don't support Tim. We reached out to Tucker's team, and he is cognizant of the desire. He is aware. We'll see what happens. It's up to him. We'll have him out when he wants to come out. Maybe when he's launching his show, he'll come here and announce it and we'll have like a big
Starting point is 01:58:06 thing where he's like you know my new show it's amazing it's called shamer i'm stealing his podcast name i'm like what tucker's just stealing my new podcast is called freedom tunes he snaps his fingers and then two guys come and just carry you out of the room you guys right you cross out seamus on my chair and write Tucker on it yeah Luke has been replaced Luke first it was Seamus now it's me all right what do we got John Curson says Tyler Fisher Jordan Peterson impersonation is greater than potato man's Jordan impersonation impression I mean if you want to debase yourself by lying in the chat that's fine but just know you'll be held accountable for it okay yeah um what did we
Starting point is 01:58:45 just say i just had a super chat and it just jumped away from me where did it go it said something about uh i can't i can't find it you know when the super chats come in it'll load a whole bunch and then just jump ahead yeah yeah uh matt zorella says bud light when you don't want to lose money but you want to lose a lot of it well so the joke is bud light is the beer for people who don't want to drink beer but want to drink a lot of it but that makes sense because like i don't really want to drink any beer but you want to get drunk whereas like you don't want to lose money but you want to lose a lot of it it's like i don't know but i get it they're losing money what is this one tenny ball says i'm a st louis native home of the anheuser-busch brewery apology or not they are dead to me thankfully yingling is
Starting point is 01:59:32 available over here now that's cool because it's like an east coast thing they're good yeah it's good stuff it's like a dc thing right middle uh yeah yeah yeah pa it's a pennsylvania beer but it's like all over the place out here and i noticed like everybody orders it it's like the thing to order you know and then you further you go west it disappears which is weird because it's like sad super proud too i don't think like new york it's is it on tap we should make yingling the replacement for bud light everybody insists that your bar carry this brand yeah uh you know no tim we got to make uh ultra seamus's beer well there is to be fair this conservative dad's ultra right beer heard about that we ordered 600 cans of it wow yeah i i recommend against drinking alcohol by the way i really do really yeah i think it's
Starting point is 02:00:18 bad yeah oh it's definitely bad but it's also fun i'd say it can be good in moderation if you're an adult yeah proper legal drinking age then you can make the decision for yourself but me i think it's also fun well i'd say it can be good in moderation if you're an adult yeah proper legal drinking age then you can make the decision for yourself but me i think it's it's no no es bueno no but i understand you know it's because tim can't control himself he gets one sip and he goes ah it's happening it's happening give me more i'll drink the bud light i don't care derrick menson says seamus talks big for a guy from a country that looks like the Apple logo with the UK taking a bite out of it. First of all, I never talk big. All right. Secondly, I'm really from America.
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