Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #767 Anheuser Busch Has EMERGENCY MEETING As Bud Light Boycott GETTING WORSE w/Lucas Botkin

Episode Date: April 28, 2023

Tim, Phil, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Lucas Botkin of TRex Arms to discuss Bud Light execs holding emergency meetings to reassure distributors, the pending release of the manifesto of the Nashville S...chool Shooter, the absurdity of America's gun laws, the DOJ challenging Tennessee's child sex change ban, and the leaked home footage of Steven Crowder arguing with his wife. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh, boy. Anheuser-Busch had an emergency meeting with distributors promising them, don't worry, any other choose their orders, meaning smaller businesses and regional stores. I bet they're seeing a much bigger impact from the boycott as opposed to like a big venue chain or an arena. It just says put in an order for like, you know, 5000 cases or whatever without thinking about it. Sales dropping, in my opinion, implies individuals at the smaller business level bars and stores are choosing to avoid it. Big corporations aren't paying attention. That makes sense. Now that it's having a huge impact on the regional stores, this emergency meeting means a whole lot. Ladies and gentlemen, we can win this culture war. So we'll talk about that. Plus, we got some other crazy stories in Tennessee, where thanks to the
Starting point is 00:00:57 work of Matt Walsh and the Daily Wire, they actually got child sex change surgeries banned. The DOJ is now intervening and seeking to make sure, as they say under the 14th Amendment, it cannot be banned. And interestingly, in Florida, after they passed a bill that would ban children attending lewd adult performances, a local pride parade in Florida was shut down. And now you've got a bunch of Democrats being like, oh, no, oh, look, they were forced to shut down their pride event. And it's kind of like the context around that is they chose to shut it down
Starting point is 00:01:31 because they're no longer allowed to show adult lewd behavior to children. And that's what's happening. So yeah, we're going to talk all about that. Before we get started, we've got an amazing sponsor tonight. It is Cast Brew Coffee. Head over to castbrew.com and get your order today. Cast Brew has begun shipping. That means for those of you that got in your orders early on,
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Starting point is 00:03:02 will also get access to Monday through Thursday at 10, 10 PM on the front page of Tim, Tim cast.com. So smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Lucas of T-Rex arms. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Yeah. Who are you? What do you do? So 10 years ago, I started a defense manufacturing company that over the years has grown to be an eight figure company. We've got 80 employees and over that time i also became a youtuber and i hate to say it a social media influencer
Starting point is 00:03:30 unfortunately and i also shoot guns an unhealthy amount literally unhealthy an unhealthy amount it's like the lead is getting all over you and is that lead my hips are jacked up i can't deadlift without one foot being in front of the other. Oh, wow. Wrist problems. So yeah, a lot of shooting. Can you switch arms and start working on the left? Unfortunately, not really. So it's just something I'll deal with for the rest of my life. And that's okay.
Starting point is 00:03:53 That's fine. Well, all right. Well, thanks for hanging out, man. We got Phil Labonte hanging out. Hello, everyone. Phil Labonte, lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist encounter revolutionary. Hi. Ian's not here.
Starting point is 00:04:04 He joined a different show. He's now on Alex Stein's revolutionary. Hi. Ian's not here. He joined a different show. He's now on Alex Stein's show. Yeah, Ian's a defector and not loyal at all. He's not. So I'm here. I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow. I'm a writer for TimCast.com. I'm so glad to be sitting here,
Starting point is 00:04:16 unlike some people who are in Texas. Just kidding. And I am here right now. Serge.com, what's up? All right, let's jump into this first story from the Daily Mail. Ladies and gentlemen, Anheuser-Busch executives
Starting point is 00:04:29 hold closed-door meeting with beer distributors and told them any marketing will be heavily screened before it goes public. Bosses held the closed-door meeting in D.C. this week where they laid out plans going forward. They say that Benj Steinman, editor of Beer Marketers Insight, said the spending on the brand fell off a cliff last year, but Anheuser-Busch execs are promising to rectify the situation. Bud Light sales have fallen dramatically since the
Starting point is 00:04:56 Dylan Mulvaney boycott, which I think most of you know. Now, they're reporting this. Bud Light's plummet. Before partnering with Mulvaney, in April 1st, it dropped by 6% to the 15th. But in one supermarket chain, Bud Light sales plunged 50% at Stu Leonard. So the tri-state area, this is Westchester County, Long Island, Connecticut, New Jersey. The reason why this story is so significant, ladies and gentlemen, is because this is a Democrat urban liberal stronghold seeing one of the biggest declines. So when we hear Kid Rock is, you know, taking a gun and firing upon a bunch of Bud Lights, we're like, oh, well, yeah, he's Kid Rock. You know, he's out in the country or whatever. He wants to be a cowboy baby or something.
Starting point is 00:05:37 And, you know, I don't know. Is that what the song was? Yeah. Well, there you go. With the top left back and the sunshine shining. Boom. You get it. You get it.
Starting point is 00:05:43 So but we expect conservatives to do that when we get news that they're having an emergency meeting in dc and in a major liberal area connecticut new jersey long island that beer sales are dropping 50 percent at a major regional supermarket uh boycott's working yeah congratulations everybody leonards was known as the disneyland of, of, uh, dare shorts. I love Stu Leonard's. It's the best thing of all time. Highly recommend going. The one that was near me, uh, had all of the like fruits that sing and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Like if, if you can't keep people in your store, uh, if you can't get them to buy Bud Light under those circumstances, like you're just not going to, there's no better grocery store. Being from New England, you know, originally and, and, you know, living in New Hampshirehire the fact that i haven't heard of this this uh chain it's not what it's not as far like connecticut is the only part of new england that has it like it doesn't get to massachusetts you're you're too far gone okay uh but it is it is delightful and i'm glad that their customers are apparently taking part in this boycott i never would have guessed check this out they say uh on top of the marketing blitz executives working for bud light will go through a more rigorous screening process according to one northeast-based beer
Starting point is 00:06:50 distributor quote there will be an improved screening process before any marketing hits the public executives will have to go through a more rigorous screening process according to beer business daily wholesalers received a letter in which executives explained the entire situation including quote this was one single can given to one social media influencer. This can was not made for production or sale to the general public. They are trying to trick people. The issue wasn't that one can was made. The issue was Dylan Mulvaney promoting the beer in general.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Yeah. We have an influencer in our midst, you know. Influencers make money off of the post, right? It's not that we have to have his face on every single beer can. It's the fact that he is
Starting point is 00:07:30 getting paid to promote it that you guys thought this was worth the money. A lot of money. And it was access to his audience. I think that's the biggest thing. You know, they're trying
Starting point is 00:07:37 so hard to act like nothing's happening. But there was that video. I don't know if we should. We talked about it last night. But this guy in Las Vegas, he's a Las Vegas vlogger. It's just what he does he's walking into stores and being like i wonder if this is a thing and then he's like oh wow no one's buying bud light i i was i was questioning whether or not this would have impact and when it initially started um i was
Starting point is 00:07:59 a little apprehensive about the idea i thought that it would look like people were attacking dylan and it is turned into what looks like the most effective uh boycott the right has seen in a long long time i can't remember the last time that there's been a boycott of something from the right that has been this effective well and it's obvious that people are upset with the brand yeah and they're really focusing on the brand which is not the person which is good because then it doesn't seem like you're bullying right and it was kind of they were talking about dylan the first two days which is reasonable because you know sure bringing him in and all that but it turned into the brand which i think is that's the correct approach because they're the ones that made the decision they're the ones that make the product they're the people that people want to buy the product from.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Is it every, now the actual cans or bottles in the stores, it was like a limited run that actually had Dylan's face on them. No, they only, from what I remember, and Phil can correct me here, they only made this one can to celebrate 365 days of Girl to Mark, the one year point of Dylan's whole deal. Were those in stores? Did you have to order them? No, you couldn't get them. Literally, they just made a custom thing for him gotcha but that wasn't the issue right because the video i saw first was dylan with a bunch of beers saying i don't even know what
Starting point is 00:09:14 march madness is let's all drink beer and then cracking open beer had nothing to do with any kind of promotional can or anything like that and then all of a sudden everyone was like screw bud light and it's tagged with the like hashtag bud light spot a partner or something like that like it's denoted as a form of advertising i think what the strangest part of it like like you're right i'm actually glad that there's not a specific targeting of dylan mulvaney because dylan mulvaney is doing exactly what dylan mulvaney has always done and you can have separate criticism of that but anheuser-busch chose to partner with him and if yeah you put position people in positions of power
Starting point is 00:09:46 in your company who thought this was a good idea i'm glad that you're starting to rethink this i would like them to admit that they're just saying like our rigorous screening process is we will hire some conservatives uh after years and years of hiring liberals probably what they're talking about is okay we can't say we goofed up and they're all fired because then the trans community will say we're horrible and bigoted and all of that. So what's the lose-lose for them? Here's how I imagine the meeting goes down.
Starting point is 00:10:12 They tell everybody, look, we understand your concern. We're going to have a meeting in D.C. Come meet. And they all walk in and there's a guy in a suit and he goes, listen, our customers are dumb as dumb gets. They are so stupid. So here's what we're going to do. We're not going to apologize.
Starting point is 00:10:27 We're not going to say anything. We're going to completely ignore all of them and let it all blow over. That's what they're saying right now. I mean, I don't know if it's quite that extreme, but they are definitely trying to be like, they're definitely trying to run away from it as opposed to addressing it and saying they're sorry.
Starting point is 00:10:42 And I do think that that apologizing uh is appropriate because they it's they're they're they're seeing a a distinct reaction from their their user base from their their customer base my trust my friends are built on many many of you may be wondering why why is this so important why have we talked about this for three weeks now why are we leading the show with it right now because i want to make sure that every major corporation knows that when you engage in sponsorships and advertising advertising like this it will be so toxic to your company you will be reeling from it there has been no response it's been it's been entirely uh no negative response from all of the essentially since you know the the since june became you know pride month and has been celebrated so openly in the west and and for probably the past 10 years or so there's not been any kind of
Starting point is 00:11:40 considerable pushback and to see something you know pushing back to say hey maybe we should moderate this a little bit because at this point the trans question like that that is not that is not built on on solid arguments there's there's a lot of questions there are people that there's there's evidence that that it's not a good idea to well europe and yeah exactly so they like multiple countries in europe have said nah it's not working yes and then there's even been several studies showing that could it could increase suicidal ideation so let's make sure we're helping people 100 but but more more to the point my biggest concern is they effectively sponsored elsagate right the easiest way for me
Starting point is 00:12:24 to explain what went down with the Dilma Vani sponsorship is a person exploited an algorithm to produce strange and off-putting content that was offensive to a lot of women, a lot of men. And then Budweiser did no research, said, whatever. Look, this person's got followers. It must be popular. But I do think it's a fantastic wake-up call as to what ai is doing to humans humans and what ai promotes or i shouldn't say ai but algorithms sure it is incongruous just because someone has views does not mean they
Starting point is 00:12:57 are popular and this proves it and i hope that if we keep the pressure on then other corporations will start to realize, like, hey, look, just because that person's on TV doesn't mean they're popular. You got to get the algorithms to really internalize retweets or not endorsements. That's right. To really get that idea to go to really. I used to see. Sorry, I was going to say, I've heard some YouTubers say, like, yeah, I don't care if
Starting point is 00:13:20 you dislike my video. Any interaction actually helps. I don't know if that's still the case. I'm not that experienced with YouTube but it is yeah so so really like anyone commenting on dylan's post being oh this is terrible is actually just still helping yeah do you get into the comments on on t-rex arm stuff still currently i as much as i can and primarily to learn more about our customers, not any other reason. We talked to some marketing folks last week who said,
Starting point is 00:13:48 yeah, even if your company responds to every comment on, you know, Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, that greatly affects the algorithm. Even if you stop by and go thumbs up,
Starting point is 00:14:01 you're adding to the comment count and that makes a difference. So when do you get the trans shooters? Well, yeah. Wait a minute. That's a you get the trans shooters? Well, yeah. Wait a minute, that's a terrible phrase. Oh my God. I had no idea what you're talking about. Back up, I apologize. I disavow, disavow.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Whoa, disavow, disavow. I posted a photo a year ago and it was a gun on a trans flag. And I said something like trans rights are human rights. Trans gun rights are human flag. And I said something like, trans rights are human rights, trans gun rights are human rights. And I got a false DM, I believe it was a false DMCA takedown. Activists started,
Starting point is 00:14:34 this is the weirdest thing. Leftist screen grabbed my post and then started insulting me over it. And I'm like, it's so weird that I said something they should agree with and instead they attacked me and then filed the dmca takedown to get the video that the photo deleted from my twitter account and then i'm just like i don't know what these people think because i'm like
Starting point is 00:14:55 two-way all the way i had a guy tweet at me saying you you think only white people should have guns i'm like what are you talking about i think the black panther should be marching around with guns all day every day and they're like oh okay base yeah yeah where these people live in a wacky alternate dimension of what we here believe it is interesting though i did notice and i could be wrong an uptick in the obviously when the shooting occurred a couple weeks ago there were lots of gun companies and i also tweeted some things about um you know calling into question you know should gun companies and this is a big discussion happening right now do we have to serve and service everyone who wants to own a gun or can we go hey this is what we believe is a company we're interested in selling to these types of
Starting point is 00:15:33 people um absolutely we put our core values out there and usually some people aren't going to agree with those so they're not going to come and buy from us and it did look like after the the shooting in in um in tennessee occurred uh the trans community was definitely much more interested in talking about guns and gun rights for themselves and getting involved in that whole thing because i had all kinds of people stopping by my twitter giving their opinion and i feel like a year ago probably when you posted that flag that was not as much of a discussion and they were probably more anti-gun no they're like oh no now we need to be pro-gun they were pro-gun yeah there was there was uh it was a picture of a trans flag with a gun on it and then there was uh people were
Starting point is 00:16:09 posting pictures of trans people wearing patches and armbands of the trans flag with guns yep and i'm like i'm all for it i like there there's there's an interesting discussion that's emerged uh following what happened in nashville where they're saying you know a bunch of conservatives were like maybe we shouldn't allow trans people to have guns or something like that. And I'm just like, not interested in that. Not interested in that conversation. If someone poses a clear and present danger or like, I mean, like they're literally on the path to using a weapon,
Starting point is 00:16:37 you can stop them. But short of, I guess, due process, maybe they committed a felony and a court has determined through- Somehow, yeah. A legal, like due process, your rights committed a felony and a court has determined through a legal due process your rights cannot be infringed upon. Well, you bring up a good point. Everyone wants to talk about the gun thing.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Well, the government has guns. I mean, criminals have guns. Everyone already has guns. The guns shouldn't even be the discussion. You said the same thing twice. What was that? Oh, yeah, the criminals and the government. Yeah, exactly. But they all have guns, so that shouldn't be the discussion. If trans people have guns, fine. If the LGBT community wants to have guns, that's fine but they all have guns so like that shouldn't be the discussion if trans people have guns fine if if you know the lgbt community wants to have guns that's fine they should have everyone's everyone can have guns let's talk about other things instead but
Starting point is 00:17:12 gun gun owners and i'm just gonna say that are some of the biggest wusses out there like they really are in 2020 we saw this because for the longest time gun owners were like we have guns for the government and then 2020 happened and we had the antifa stuff and we the peaceful times obviously and then they went oh there's other people with guns who aren't our friends we need to do something about that or have the government step in it's like no no no no no don't don't ask for the government to step in you're having them do what we don't want them to do to us what you do is you train exactly that's what you do yeah just be better than everyone because most people aren't going out there and training. I mean, I'm a guy that's very pro get out there and train.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Go out there and like learn how to shoot your guns. I mean, Lucas knows how to shoot guns. Ask Lucas. When did you guys get interested in guns? Like, is this something you grew up with? Is there something that happened that made you interested? I played Call of Duty and that was enough for me. It's the video game gun pipeline, I see games are the gateway the gateway they they they create more gun owners than the nra ever hopes to well the nra is like oh they're they're gone yeah
Starting point is 00:18:16 i'm not a big fan but yeah video games absolutely call of duty franchise which i'm very thankful i got to work on the good one that came out years ago. Guys, guys, the NRA is very important. It's a very important organization. We need to make sure that the NRA. We got to donate a lot of money. We need to make sure that the NRA is out there. So that way they've got something to attack. Didn't the NRA support the NFA?
Starting point is 00:18:37 Oh, they've supported. So the NRA has done some good things like the sunset clause for the weapons assault ban and all that. But for the most part, they are extremely funny. The worst thing about the nra that people won't talk about are is their training programs which are like they have a they have a like a rule you are not allowed to call a gun a weapon all right they're too dangerous well it is a gun and real quick describe explain fuddy to people who don't know so fuddy are like people who go ah 1911 is better than any pistol out there won two world wars my sks is better than any pistol out there. Won two world wars.
Starting point is 00:19:05 My SKS is better than an AR-15. It's still very esoteric. It's very esoteric. I don't want that plastic stuff on my rifle. It's a reference to Elmer Fudd. Yep. Yep. Old times, more or less.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Not getting with the times. These people who are like, look, I'm a gun owner and I think we should have gun control. And it's like, I don't believe it. It's generally that. We don't need 30 rounds for hunting. So let's ban 30-round high-capacity magazines and go to 10 rounds. Do you see deer running around Kevlar? What do you need that for? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:19:32 That's exactly it. But yeah, the NRA, the worst thing is not their political stuff. It's the firearms training. It's the culture that they're perpetuating, too. Even hunter's education. Don't store ammunition with a gun. The gun's pretty useless without the ammunition like you actually want to keep them together because weapons are for people not just
Starting point is 00:19:49 for bambi but these these and they train them young that way these people have never loaded a weapon no and so i i can tell you this right um i got a 30 30 uh winchester repeater it's it's amazing and it's it's real difficult to load the 30 30s they get stuck the the the plunger gets stuck and all that stuff and then when it comes to loading even like you know a glock with nine millimeter they have speed loaders for a reason if you if you're trained in your practice you can load it fairly quickly but i just think anybody who has a gun understands that if someone if you hear you're a glass shatter and then someone yell all right boys let's go you're gonna be like oh and then you're gonna open the box and you're gonna be like just give me a
Starting point is 00:20:28 second let me push these in and load this no it has to like yep when when you're when you are being prepared for self-defense you you need to have your weapon prepared and safely secured in a way yeah you know that you can access it and that uh it's responsible but what's the point i someone told me this when um i was asking like around the first time i was getting a weapon what's proper like storage and safety protocol and i'm gonna keep it relatively vague for the show but they just basically said what's the point of having a weapon if you can't readily access it to defend yourself from an intruder so just consider that yep and then have a serious conversation with yourself what is a gun for
Starting point is 00:21:03 yeah they are for homo sapiens they were designed ever since gunpowder was you know developed and then it was used for fire fireworks to disrupt cavalry charges after that it was always weaponized for human beings it wasn't just made for hunting like that is what they're for and the problem is gun owners well it's a weapon every time i say that they go they go oh lucas you can't say that because then the left's going to use that to ban stuff i'm like no the reason we're in all this mess and gun regulations are happening is we've always been on the defense and culturally we're losing because of it yep we won't just say the facts and what's going on i i think it's fair to be more general weapons are for destructive ends yep and that doesn't mean it's always bad destructive things can be good
Starting point is 00:21:43 things right if if you're defending someone a machete for instance you're using it to go and clear brush to to carve a path through the woods to help people more freely move about but it's also can be the weapon yeah and uh famously alfred nobel made dynamite tnt i think i don't know the same thing but tnt i guess because he wanted to help people mine and then they called him the merchant of death and he was and they you know the story like they accidentally published his obituary and then he was like is that what they think of me he's like holy crap that must be brutal that he read his obituary before he passed yeah and then he and then he made the piece that nobel prizes he was like i better be known for something much better than i didn't know that yeah but it was weaponized. Maybe more people should have to do that than read their
Starting point is 00:22:26 own obituaries and reconcile their life. Let's go back to the first question with all of this. We were talking about mental illness, weapon ownership and stuff like that. And for the longest time, we were talking about red flag laws. And everybody on the right and all the two-way people were like, absolutely not. You cannot
Starting point is 00:22:42 red flag people. And then the Nashville shooting happened. And all of a sudden conservatives were like absolutely not you cannot red flag people and then the nashville shooting happened and all of a sudden conservatives were like we should not let these people have guns and i'm just sitting here like y'all are wrong yeah well so the mental the mental um that that whole thing's interesting because the issue that i have with that whole conversation is by what standard and who gets to define if someone is mentally unwell? Because if I go to the right, you know, doctor, clinician or whatever, and I say, I really like guns for these reasons. This is what I actually think about the government. This is what I think about balkanization of our country, X, Y, Z.
Starting point is 00:23:16 They could say, you're a little unwell for thinking these things. You want to homeschool your kids. You're married. You're not running around doing all this other stuff. You're unwell. You can't own guns. Right. Now, now that's i'm not saying that would happen today but in 10 years i mean who gets to standardize who is mentally well and so that's a pretty slippery slope this is why when a couple years ago we were talking about uh felons and firearms
Starting point is 00:23:39 and i said as soon as you get out of jail you get your right to keep and bear arms yep i agree and what people responded with was several people conservatives were like no because you went through a process you you got your due process and through due process your rights were deprived that is constitutional meaning you have a right to life liberty in the pursuit of happiness but if you break the law we can deprive you of those rights through due process meaning you went to a judge there was a hearing you were found guilty the same thing is true of your guns and my response that is then just like so what is a life sentence then yeah that's either you die or i guess you're in jail your whole life yeah that's yeah you don't get your gun you don't get your gun back ever and so my my my issue still is now due process isn't necessarily an
Starting point is 00:24:17 a perfect standard right because we are we are at the point of polarization in this country where like you said you will say something like i think everybody should have guns i'm like well you're clearly insane exactly i have one i think machine guns should be legal okay i also wonder how the mental health screenings work because we have this shooter in louisville whose parents were like no he was having some sort of crisis we were aware of it like but he was able to get a gun theoretically like wouldn't this have triggered so i feel like some people can i just don't understand the practical applications of some of these yeah and the problem is the government and people want to play minority report they want to stop the crime before it happens you can't do that it doesn't
Starting point is 00:24:54 actually work oh but it's coming the oh yeah i know the ai chat gp7 whatever is gonna probably do it but it's not practical and it's not going to work and it's only going to cause and we've seen this up north where red flag laws have gotten innocent people killed where they show up to the doorstep the guy comes out there's an altercation he's like why are you guys here i haven't done any community crimes yet ends up getting shot there's been at least two of those uh that have happened um it's going to do more harm than good and besides that according to all these shootings that have happened at least in the last like five years uh supposedly the fbi already knew about the person yeah they were already watching him so it's like well it obviously doesn't work already i mean you guys have been trying to do this kind
Starting point is 00:25:32 of the fbi tries to prevent crimes right they're just aware stuff is going on they're like maybe we'll help you assist do that crime yeah that's yeah it's a slippery slope and and it's not something that i think i think conservatives and people in general need to get away from and just go when a crime happens we have people there who can shoot back and that's how we resolve it because we call the cops to resolve it while it's after while it's happening so why not address it sooner when the incident actually occurs and if we saw that happen more often a lot of these shootings would go down if people realize like if we posted photos of the corpse of the shooter afterwards kind of what happened in tennessee a lot less of the shooter culture would be happening i mean i don't know i guess my concern is there are a lot of
Starting point is 00:26:13 people with no purpose anymore and no community and no path towards notability right and and maybe notability is the wrong word but but people want recognition feeling value yep and so they decide one way they'll make people remember their names so that's going out of the bay is being evil yeah because uh if they can't be a famous superhero they'll just be the villain that's the easiest path but we got we have this we do have this story here's a story from uh the post-millennial breaking nashville trans shooters manifesto to be released by authorities metro nashville police department public information office told fox 17 on thursday the investigation has advanced the Shooter's manifesto to be released by authorities. Metro Nashville Police Department Public
Starting point is 00:26:45 Information Office told Fox 17 on Thursday the investigation has advanced to the point that writings from the Covenant shooter are now being reviewed for public release. That process is underway and will take a little time. So I think we're going to get it soon. And what we already know is that it does relate to politics. And what we've heard from various news sources, and even we've had some people reach out saying that they were either in the know or something. So it's all unconfirmed. There have been other shows saying they have inside sources that suggest this individual was anti-Trump, was angry over the conservative politics and the banning on transgender surgery, child sex change surgery and things like that.
Starting point is 00:27:25 And they were trying to, you know, maximize that carnage. So I think it'll be interesting to see. And I'm curious how it manifests in the public, because when this happened within days, the Democrats turned it into a fundraiser for themselves. It is, I look at the aftermath of the way that the democratic party and and the politicians surrounding the the the situation have behaved it is atrocious and i thought that i was not i thought that i got to a point where i where i couldn't be shocked anymore but i'm really surprised at how the narrative has really really been like like, oh, it's about trans people.
Starting point is 00:28:05 It's like a trans person actually killed and targeted Christians. Children. Children, yeah. And you have managed to make the trans people the victims. That is absolutely astounding to me. Well, above all else, you cannot be bigoted and you should know better.
Starting point is 00:28:23 I don't, don't i think the important distinction with this individual because i want to i'll bring it back to gun rights as people saw this shooter was trans therefore they were talking about banning guns for trans people and i'm like no this was a leftist gender ideologue yeah that's a big difference i think it's important that we we have a distinction between someone who happens to be transgender and someone who is in a cult of a varying ideology yeah because there are be transgender and someone who is in a cult of a varying ideology. Because there are people who are trans who are nowhere near that
Starting point is 00:28:49 ideology, and we're friends. And it's just like I don't want my friends' rights curtailed because this person's a leftist wacko. The leftism is the problem, or my favorite way to put it is when Tucker Carlson was accused of being racist, he was like, what? White liberal women are the problem? That's who I'm complaining about.
Starting point is 00:29:05 He's like, I don't have a problem with black people. I'm like, exactly. It's the ideology. Right. It's the cult. Yeah. Yeah. Outside of that.
Starting point is 00:29:13 It's people's worldview. Right. That's what it comes down to. And so even then, even with the worldview, people have a right to keep and bear arms. Leftists have a right to keep and bear arms. And I'm not going to, but I will say, we're getting to the point
Starting point is 00:29:25 where it's not gonna matter whether you want them to or not if it's active conflict if you have people who have our leftist ideology like that dude at the ice facility and i think it was in tacoma who firebombed started shooting at it or the guy who killed aaron danielson at a certain point it's like okay we need to stop violent political extremists. And then, and what do you do? So it's, it's, it reminds me of that Karl Popper meme the left likes to share. If you tolerate intolerance, intolerance wins. And that's how they justify banning people's speech.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And I'm like, I believe in the right to keep in bare arms for everybody. I believe in free speech, free press, religion, all that stuff. But then when war happens, all of this stuff is meaningless. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Well, then things are different because then it's, you've got supply lines, who's selling guns to who. And so whichever sides over here will have their own infrastructure or lack thereof, depending on their funding mechanism.
Starting point is 00:30:18 And then the people over here will have their thing. And then it's very clear. Right now it's, there's not really battle lines. There kind of are. And there's gun stores. These people walk in and they're like, i sell this person or not and they have the
Starting point is 00:30:27 freedom to deny sales yeah uh the atf actually likes it when gun stores don't sell to people that might be a threat but who are those people this is actually a good idea for like a video we could do have someone dress up as antifa like wearing antifa clothes and go into a gun shop and see what they say yeah and you'd be like hey i want to own my guns i'll do it i want to but they might be like okay phil i love all that remains actually you know the uh the green monster gun shop in in martinsburg i've been recognized twice exactly you're like walking up and they're gonna hi i'm antifa like no you're not phil watch the show get out of here get out of here labonte but i i think the you know i think the appropriate response is if someone wearing antifa gear walked into a gun shop
Starting point is 00:31:08 they should be like let me know what you need i i i don't think that that is the philosophical challenge right now should a business be like no you are our enemies you are dangerous and i will not sell you this weapon because that's actually a fair point uh correct if i'm wrong but if if if someone at a gun store has suspicions that a person may use a weapon for criminal ends, they can deny sale. But isn't it a requirement to deny sale?
Starting point is 00:31:34 It technically probably is. It probably is like, hey, don't sell them that gun. You don't want to be the guy, like if a cop comes to you and says, did you think this guy was going to sell something? And then be like, yeah, yeah i totally thought he was gonna go shoot up the mall and i sold it anyway yeah he said something i didn't i wanted the money no i'm pretty sure they get in trouble if they're like the guy came in and he was talking about committing a crime and i said well here's your
Starting point is 00:31:55 weapon like no you can't sweating everywhere effectively an accessory to the crime so then if someone comes in wearing antifa gear you could i might be like oh man i don't know dude well yeah if it's like let's say let's go back to the peaceful times in 2020 and someone comes in wearing Antifa gear, you could, I might be like, oh man, I don't know, dude. Well, yeah. If it's like, let's say, let's go back to the peaceful times in 2020 and someone walks in right then when all that stuff's going on in, let's say Oregon. Oh, hands down. Uh, I think there'd be a good case to be like, you know what? I, I'd rather not sell to you.
Starting point is 00:32:16 No, I think to someone else. Slam dunk case. You're not the kind of person I want to assist. I'll stop there. I say, if, if I owned a gun store and it was during the summer of love and someone with antifa blm gear came on i'd be like get out right now one of my closest friends one of my closest friends in new hampshire the gun shop that that highlander arms a buddy of mine owns like if someone went in there and he knew that they were a leftist there is no
Starting point is 00:32:41 way yeah he would they that's most gun stores he'd kick him out himself like most gun stores you think would do that not all i'll take that back uh the ones with backbones so maybe a little bit less than half but like dick's sporting goods wouldn't right like they would be like okay here you go have a good time yeah but i feel like if an effa guy with like an antifa bandana and like a shirt and everything walked in there and it was like it's time to go fight for justice where are the guns they're like right this way sir and they, walked in there and it was like, it's time to go fight for justice. Where are the guns? They're like, right this way, sir. And they'd walk them over and be like, here we have a 12 gauge. Yeah, and it also
Starting point is 00:33:09 depends, is it a chain, you know, a place where you don't have control? Or is it a little mom and pop gun shop where the owner is literally there at the desk? Because there's a huge difference between the service you're going to get from both places. Like the little gun store in my county, no, that guy would totally deny sale. But if it were Dick's Sporting Goods,
Starting point is 00:33:26 no, that employee's just going to be like, I can't do anything. I don't have the freedom. It's a corporation. I can't do it. I don't think he would even say that. He'd be like, right this way, sir. Yep.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Here we have a fine selection of firearms for you. Exactly. They would have no idea. Do they make commission on gun sales at Dick's Sporting Goods? He'd be like, buy an extra. Well, and Dick's Sporting Goods got boycotted. They don't even sell guns anymore, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:33:44 They do. They don't sell rifles. They don't sell AR they do they don't sell they don't sell okay they sell shotguns and uh and like uh and i think they sell like 10 22s and stuff like that yeah if you go to the uh the dicks out here in, I think it's a dicks in Maryland, they have basically just shotguns. And I think they might have some 22s and it's just, it's just, it's, it's silly. It's pandering. They, they pulled the ARs like, what was it? Six years ago, four years ago, um, after a shooting and they were like, we're not going
Starting point is 00:34:17 to sell those weapons of war. We'll just sell shotguns. And then Walmart, same thing. Walmart pulled out like, I think it was six years ago and then they finally removed all guns. So let me, let me, let me ask you a question. If we were talking about maximizing defense, minimizing collateral damage, being safe and secure, which would you prefer? You're in your house.
Starting point is 00:34:36 You have, I don't know, let's just say like, what is it? Like a 72 caliber Sabo slug for deer in your 12 gauge? Or you have like an AR-15 they are hands down 100 short barrel suppressed and and and that's so illegal right like suppressors it's like restricted my point is just joe biden says to fire the shotgun into the air scare away yeah and they and they're and they're trying to sell people like buckshot for home defense or birdshot or birdshot but either way like i kind of feel like it would be fairly brutal to use a 12 gauge on somebody in your home so like a 10 inch hole in their chest oh it'd be very violent this is correct this is the problem with shotguns and again this is like fud knowledge from the pastguns are so much harder to use well by an untrained person than handing them an AR-15.
Starting point is 00:35:30 I mean, the AK-47 originally was designed for the average conscript to use. Very simple to manipulate and function. A shotgun, on the other hand, if it's a pump, you got to pump it every time you pull the trigger. Which already, mentally, if you haven't trained that, most people aren't going to rack a second round. That's just how it's going to be. An AR,'s 30 round mag goes in pull the charging handle safety and i can pull the trigger 30 times and i'm good to go and super simple to use and the recoil and the recoil when when we go out to the range with people man they do not they think the shotguns are the easy ones yeah and then and i'm like we have the shoulder pads for the shotgun if you want to use them like why like now it's like you might want to try using the like the ar-556 or whatever because
Starting point is 00:36:08 that's oh yeah you're not gonna you might be like oh wow that was it but that's the point i guess the argument being made by the gun control people is too easy to use yep shotguns are hard they well and and they don't even know exactly what are the only argument they really use is in arguments because it's inconsistent it's It's a weapon of war. It's what the military has. And I'm doing a video on it next week. It's an M4A1 the military has, the same as a civilian AR-15. Well, it actually turns out civilian AR-15s are better.
Starting point is 00:36:34 M4A1s the military has, a lot of them are shot out and they're crap. AR-15s I can buy right now for a thousand dollars are better than what the military has. Yeah. And the left does not like that. We, I've got a KSG-25. Oh, yeah. You're familiar? Yeah. Yeah. So for those that aren't i've got a ksg 25 oh you're familiar yeah yeah so for those that aren't it it's uh it can hold 25 shotgun shells and uh we're at we're at the range and it's loaded with buckshot and the wave of devastation is is is bonkers oh yeah here's the crazy thing
Starting point is 00:36:57 that's legal in maryland but an m1a is illegal that is so funny an m1a is a is an assault weapon yep and i'm like that's kind of weird because for those who don't understand if you've got 25 shells you've got 25 uh shells buck shot i'm watching this thing just melt a melt the the target the wood flying everywhere it's being ripped apart like a chainsaw is gutting it from every direction it's kind of it was kind of cool but it was like also i think it's 225 lead balls if you're shooting like nine shot or something well-placed boom boom like well-placed shotgun shells will remove parts of bodies like you will literally take an arm off if you are yeah if you're if you're skilled with a shotgun it will remove body parts large large chunks of flesh.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Very politically incorrect. But that's a crazy thing to me that that's the argument they always go to is get a shotgun. And I'm like, there's exotic rounds. There's weird stuff. There's dragon's breath. Yeah. Can you imagine a CCTV like video and you just dragon's breath? It's magnesium, right?
Starting point is 00:38:01 I think. Yeah. Just blast. Dragon's breath is like a shell loaded with magnesium so it sprays flaming metal at you i just awesome and that's the stuff that they're like that's fine yeah that's that's the stuff we're not trying to control but it's because they don't understand exactly so sbr stuff the perfect this is another perfect thing so sbr short barreled rifles are technically illegal unless you pay this little tax stamp to the government which is weird
Starting point is 00:38:24 it takes a year to get it shouldn't be illegal if you can pay a little fine to own that it doesn't make sense you know it's exactly it's exactly a bribe i can own machine guns because i paid 2500 to the atf and other people can't it's the most preposterous thing ever but an sbr you know a barrel below 16 inches is technically illegal unless you do paperwork to a tax stamp p 200 but is less lethal than a 20 inch m16 which will penetrate body armor with the right ammo and a little 10.3556 can't so it's it's they don't they don't know what they're doing obviously with the regulation they're old they're outdated but a 20 inch m16 is way more lethal so let me first person what's going on with this um this uh pistol brace ban they just did i saw there was a video of
Starting point is 00:39:05 members of congress questioning the atf and the atf couldn't answer basic questions about they didn't want which is typical that is a normal thing to see when you're in when you see congress people interrogating people that are in are in the regulatory body the atf that is charged with regulating firearms and they know nothing there there wasn't someone asked him he's like you don't know the difference between five five six and three and a blackout and this is like the atf director yeah the director of atf did this thing and they were like define in 15 seconds for me an assault weapon and he was like well i'm not a gun expert so i can't and one of my favorite tweets that came out was i think it was a guy named george costas he
Starting point is 00:39:42 said he doesn't know anything about firearms i'm glad he admitted that does he know a lot about alcohol and tobacco and explosives this guy doing yeah right yeah it's like name your favorite booze oh look i'm not a drinker i don't know anything like well i am not an expert that's the kind of person uh budweiser should hire though that's right oh my gosh and then tobacco that's just but he's also can we get rid of this agency it makes no sense okay there's a problem with that there's actually a problem with you tweeted about this i tweeted about this yeah uh because i was talking to someone at the atf a few weeks ago you know an inside man just getting some information and they don't like the fbi nobody likes the fbi i don't think anyone in america if you were sitting in a bar and a guy said you said hey what do you do for work and
Starting point is 00:40:20 he said i'm at work the fbi x files if somebody? That's before my time. No, no, no. If an FBI agent comes up to me, he's like, I'm with the FBI. I go, oh, yeah, X-Files. I'd be like, really? Tell me everything. Yeah, tell me about the aliens. I only like that guy who's in Bones and helps her with her cases. He's cool.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Yeah, but the average- To the FBI agents we like, I guess. The average American won't thank an FBI agent for their service. They're not going to do that. Not right now. So I was talking to my ATF guy. And we were talking about, shoot, where was I going? The brace thing.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Where were we just talking about? Abolishing the ATF. Abolishing the ATF. And so I asked him about that and he said, well, the problem with the ATF going away is the FBI would take over and they have infinite resources. They're weaponized way more easily by the administration. Like technically they've been trying to weaponize the ATF for political means. And it's, they put through an executive order, I think in 2021, it's still not in effect this year that's how slow moving the atf is which is good for us like i
Starting point is 00:41:09 actually don't mind that's pretty cool so my my tweet was essentially the atf should get removed when the gun laws are removed at the same time so the fbi can't do anything squirrely and weird and as long as you're i mean it's not really that tall of an order to get rid of federal gun laws because the federal government doesn't have extensive gun laws thanks to the Second Amendment. There's really limits placed on what the feds can actually do. But here's the most important question. The ATF has just imposed a rule without Congress making it illegal to own an item attached to a weapon that That will make, what, hundreds of thousands of people criminal? Millions. Millions and millions and millions.
Starting point is 00:41:48 I can't remember what the number was. I think it was like three? I don't know. Many, many. I had to have them, because I think I have a handful of pistols with braces. They were all removed and separated and stored somewhere far away. I just got bomb stocks and everything, man. But with that-
Starting point is 00:42:04 Are you still allowed to have them so long as they're not attached? No, the whole bomb stock thing's- Okay, this is the problem. Oh, they lost it. They lost it. Right, but no one knows. It's in limbo. And will the company start selling them again?
Starting point is 00:42:14 No, probably not. Because they're like, well, they'll just ban it in the next administration. But a court struck that down. That is correct. And the brace thing, it's going to be the exact same thing. They're going to fight it for two years. The issue is for resellers, like Gun Broker, for example, the day that went out or the next day that went out, they pulled all the things of guns with braces off of their website. Let me provide people with some context real quick just because it may be a little bit esoteric for a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:42:36 There are pistols and there are people who are disabled. In order to fire the pistol, they attach a brace, which goes onto your forearm so you can hold it. However, some of, they can adjust in length, they're retractable, and so some people, and these are bad people,
Starting point is 00:42:53 I tell you. Horrible. They push that up to their shoulder to simulate a stock. Because a brace can simulate a stock, they've now made it illegal. Or they've just issued a decree. Short-barreled rifle.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Yeah. Essentially. They've decreed it. Now that's the biggest problem I. They made a short-barreled rifle, essentially. They've decreed it. Now, that's the biggest problem I have. I've said on the show, I was like, come on, we know people are using braces like stocks. It's like- Everyone.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Right, right, everybody knows. First of all, I disagree with all the gun control. But if it went through Congress, I'd roll my eyes, I'd complain about it. But this is a hundred times worse than that. A rogue agency. A rogue agency issuing a rule we hereby decree that if you have this thing you're a felon that's crazy yep and the
Starting point is 00:43:30 and the issue is most people aren't following the news i mean they just don't want to they want to go about their life work their job do whatever they don't know what's going on with every regulation and then all of a sudden a doodle that caught up and i'll be like well i didn't know it got changed i didn't realize y'all were changing laws every three years and regulations for a thing that you said right but they said braces are fine like you can do this thing they you know sb sent this product to them they said that's fine and so everyone bought them and then oh you're going to change your mind on it and go back on it and that's going to screw over all the people that don't pay attention to the laws because i mean i have a hard time paying attention i literally do this for a job keeping up with all the regulations
Starting point is 00:44:03 i mean i'm probably a felon five days out of the week. If I didn't cover the news, there's no way I would have known about this. And so sure enough, when the news comes out, it's like, okay, we got to go. And I think there were like three and we took them off and we moved them and stored them somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I mean, I am a guy that shoots a lot and I pay a lot of attention to guns and I'm active in the gun world and at least enough to be aware of what's going on. And to think that the average person is going to do that kind of stuff when they've got they've got a family, they've got work, they've got kids, they've got all election coming up. They're like, oh, what do I do? It's like they're normal people with normal lives and that's something that i think a lot of people that that are wrapped up in this kind of stuff don't realize your average person doesn't spend their days paying attention to the details about what you know what laws are passed or whatever and when you can go to you know you can go to like runnings in new england there's this this this
Starting point is 00:44:58 it's essentially tractor supply that sells guns as well but you can buy a you know a 10 inch pistol or you could buy a 10 inch pistol and you know some dude just goes and he's like oh i can pick this up for 1500 bucks go home and i shoot it once in a while that doesn't watch gun tube stuff and he doesn't know that he's now a felon or he's gonna be a felon or whatever do you see uh you know that's ridiculous he's had a viral video of that gen z democrat where he was like we're coming for your guns we're gonna win we're gonna take them we're not hired by the white house you invited him to your house no no he's hired by the white house no no i was gonna say you should invite him to your house i i'll take him to the range i mean
Starting point is 00:45:34 i'll have to have some people there so i don't get like chris kyle but i think but i tweeted uh they already lost who the gun control people oh yeah not only are we looking at 27 constitutional carry states it's i think nebraska Nebraska and Florida are next to go into effect. But 3D printed guns exist. It's done. There's nothing they can do about it. Well, I won't say what I was going to say. I was going to say ammo.
Starting point is 00:45:55 So they tried to go after ammo a few years ago. Green tip ammo. That's honestly, yes. Steel penetrator. It's all right. It's not that great. But it works. But they tried to go after ammo. It's not that great, but it works. But they tried to go after ammo
Starting point is 00:46:06 and the thing that gun control people could do if they were smart is they would go after, they would use OSHA compliance and they would try to shut down businesses and make it harder
Starting point is 00:46:15 for businesses to function. Businesses would have to raise the prices to offset that. I know, but I'm telling everyone who's on here who needs to understand
Starting point is 00:46:21 these things because I run a business. I can actually talk about this. That's how they could actually shut down a lot of people from owning guns and make it so only people in like the six income you know six figure income bracket could actually afford guns that would be the way to do it because you're they're not going to actually ban weapons anytime soon but it's like washington i mean they just did and now that's being fought so in some of the really blue states like super blue states um i think we will see those bans like at least be in effect for another 10 20 years until culture can shift and change
Starting point is 00:46:49 but nationally it's not going to happen i just i just want to point out like it's kind of amazing that we are winning this this well like gun for one thing yeah gun rights are winning so tremendously it's like not even a contest it's never been popular in america no matter how much the media says it's never been popular when you get down to the individual level to take guns away if you talk wait wait it wasn't until i think like 2008 with uh was it heller in dc that people were actually able to have guns legally nationwide good we had in the 80, most states would not give you a gun permit. Right. You couldn't have guns. And then you watch around the year 2000, constitutional carry starts popping up state by state. And now it's 27 states.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Yep. So Nebraska, so it's 25 in effect. Florida just did permitless concealed carry. Nebraska, I think, went full constitutional. Am I wrong? Just today, I think it was. And more coming. It ain't over here.
Starting point is 00:47:45 More and more states are going to implement i think uh yeah the big the big frontier is going to be and the issue right now is the federal government still controls who gets to sell guns that is the whole ffl whole thing the gun control act or whatever it was that is the actual like the final frontier of getting rights back is when can states just get to do it on their own? You could have their own system for choosing who gets to sell guns. That's a 10th Amendment violation? Did they get to before? Should be, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Did states ever get to control who, so I'm not up on my gun history. I think back in the day they took guns to schools. Yeah. The thing is a lot of people that are anti-gun will sit there and they'll say, well, you never had this right. You never had that right, et cetera, et cetera. But that's essentially spinning reality on its head. Because the idea that you were prohibited was foreign to a free people. If you are by your nature free, then the idea that you don't have this right is completely foreign to the concept of you being
Starting point is 00:48:46 free. It comes with your liberty. The fact that you're free means you don't have to ask permission and that doesn't matter what the context is, you know? And it's so the idea that, oh, you know, you only, the government is creating this right and et cetera. No, no, no, no, no. The government doesn't create liberties. Liberties exist. And then the no no the government doesn't create liberties liberties exist and then the only thing the government can do is infringe upon those which the second amendment is ostensibly supposed to prevent would which it does a poor job of in my right although it did help with the bruin case it did go back to that and go hey according to this thing you know in order to pass regulations you can't just say it's for public safety because you can't actually
Starting point is 00:49:24 you can't argue that so like you can't do it anymore's for public safety because you can't actually you can't argue that so like you can't do it anymore the bump stock thing that was that was a while ago wasn't it they struck it down uh i i think it was sort of struck down and then it was kind of struck down again because there was something about it recently yeah again i didn't really pay attention but like they're once again legal yeah yes but i don't think anyone will come out and start selling them or putting them on gun broker or anything like that because it's still kind of that weird burnt child syndrome. They're like,
Starting point is 00:49:45 it's a month stock. Yep. Trump banned it. Don't really want to do anything with it. And so the real thing they're doing is when they say pistol braces are banned, people get rid of them, detach them,
Starting point is 00:49:56 stop selling them, stop selling them. Stop selling them to business. And then they lose and then people are like, well, we don't have them anymore. Right. Businesses that make them go under.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Yep. SB is probably, I mean, I mean, they haven't been able to sell them for the last, you know, couple of months. So, businesses that make them go under. Yep, SB is probably, I mean, I mean, they haven't been able to sell them for the last couple of months. So that's two months of revenue lost or three months, whenever that was. And I had this conversation with them.
Starting point is 00:50:13 They're the biggest race, the company. Like that's literally how they got started, SB Tactical. And they said, hey, our goal, and this is what I really appreciate about them. They were actual zealots for the cause and not just capitalists, but they're capitalists with a conscience. They said, we would love to put ourselves out of business by getting
Starting point is 00:50:27 sbrs taken off yeah so we don't have to make these stupid things we'll pivot and make stocks and we'll be fine so yeah they they're probably uh two months out of revenue um they're putting all their efforts into the political fight there are disabled people who can you who use them yeah sure so you still do need pistol braces yeah they'll They'll make, I mean, they definitely make a lot less, but not as much. But yeah, that's a thing. Like the problem is we will be honest about the fact that people are using them as stocks.
Starting point is 00:50:54 I mean, I got tons of YouTube videos doing it. So evidence is there. And then, but because of that honesty, our political rivals will weaponize, like they will not be honest back. They'll,
Starting point is 00:51:04 they'll claim the ar-15 she needs to be banned and then completely ignore every other weapon and every other you know whatever yeah well i think that i think that's a lot of the issue it's my issue and i've been speaking about this for like the last six years is gun owners sugarcoat like the modern uh the modern sporting rifle is a perfect example companies go well we can't call it an m4 we can't call it a weapon4 we can't call it a weapon so we're going to call it a sporting rifle and that right there communicates to people that oh this is a privilege not a right yeah it's just a sporting instrument it's for three gun or two gun
Starting point is 00:51:33 or shooting sports which people aren't when the m&p 15 in 2020 the m&p 15 was the best-selling rifle in the nation an air 15 with a front sight post 16 inch barrel people were not buying those to shoot competitions. We did not see a rise in shooting sports, USPSA, multi-gun, three gun, when all those rifles were getting bought. That's not why people are buying them, but companies go, we're gonna call it a sporting rifle
Starting point is 00:51:54 so that we get some heat taken off of us. But all that does is communicate to gun owners, this is a privilege, not a right, and it's gonna cause issues. And I've literally told companies, they've asked me, hey, what should we do to modernize our brand a little bit and i just go dump that name get rid of it it's doing more harm than good long term it might be fine right now but in 10 years what's it going to do to the culture and how people view guns yeah let's jump to this next
Starting point is 00:52:17 story which is not about guns but is about the department of justice from the tennesseean doj challenges tennessee's ban on transgender care for minors the first thing i want to say is i take issue with the title of this article so i'm going to rephrase it for the sake of honesty department of justice challenges tennessee's ban on child sex change surgery i mean you'll laugh but like language is a huge component of how the left plays politics. 100%. Absolutely. And this is exactly what was banned. They don't want medications, puberty blockers, hormones, and surgery for children.
Starting point is 00:52:53 So these children have to, you know, be adults before making these decisions. But now the DOJ has announced that they are going to, under the 14th Amendment, try and block this ban from happening. They argue, SB1, the bill, makes it unlawful to provide or offer to provide certain types of medical care for transgender minors with diagnosed gender dysphoria. SB1's blanket ban prohibits potential treatment options that have been recommended by major medical associations for consideration in limited circumstances in accordance with established and comprehensive guidelines, etc.,, et cetera, by denying only transgender youth access to these forms of medically necessary care, while allowing
Starting point is 00:53:29 non-transgender minors access to the same or similar procedures. What? Did you catch that? But let me read it. It discriminates against transgender youth. The DOJ is arguing that non-trans kids are undergoing sex change surgery.
Starting point is 00:53:46 If that's the case, we've got a bigger problem than just this one bill. There are caveats in most of the bills, including Tennessee's, that say children who are born with a genetic defect, they don't identify as trans. There's literally something wrong. They're intersex. There's another issue at play. They can get hormonal treatment or something like that. But those people are not in the same sphere as i'm not sure right and it's it's determined by very
Starting point is 00:54:11 much by their genetics and their biology as opposed to their psychological condition like how often does that i mean and i don't know i haven't studied this how often does that actually happen i mean are we talking like a point oh oh oh one percent rare i mean it's very uncommon it makes sense are you talking about intersex? Intersex kids or kids who are born with like XXY chromosomes. I think it's like 0.0017 or something. But it makes sense to permit them. Vanishingly small.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Right. But they want to use that to argue, well, we should do it for everyone. Yes. Well, now that we're seeing tens of thousands of kids undergoing procedures of some sort over the past few years, it's getting into like this. I think it's 60 or so thousand. We went over this when Destiny was here. Yeah. Forty some odd thousand taking hormone, cross-ex hormones or puberty blockers and then it's in the thousands of uh teenage girls who are getting mastectomies
Starting point is 00:54:54 can you imagine if a country a foreign because you know europe they're banning it if a foreign country in the future say in 10 years and we've got just all this stuff going on was like we're gonna invade america to free the oppressed and get rid of this stuff. That's destroying kids. And a foreign nation wanted to invade us over that. Would that be fascinating? You know,
Starting point is 00:55:11 if I was going to look at history and you're going to look at an invasion or something, if a foreign invader, let's say it was like, I don't know. If European nation, sure. We'll call it like a water,
Starting point is 00:55:23 a Germany. They're good at it. No, let's just say there's like, let's just say there's like a water uh germany they're good at it no let's just say there's like let's just say there's like a big landmass in in in europe and it started by water and then maybe there's like a smaller landmass to the west and then people from one go to the other and then say like you can't have kids anymore and you can't speak your language one way to you know get rid of that lineage is to stop them from having kids avoiding their kids or sterilizing their kids yep that's one thing so when i see this this is why i keep saying like it really does feel like democrats hate their own constituents because like if you went to someone
Starting point is 00:55:54 and said have you considered sterilizing your children it sounds like you're insulting them i think there's a deep nihilism that comes from most of the philosophies that come from the left i think that there is a a real significant dislike of humanity the whole uh environmental movement i feel like is anti-human um a lot of the left i feel like is anti-human so it it when you say stuff like that it doesn't sound like you're talking about something crazy. It fits right in with my kind of concept of the way the left thinks. It comes from the same sphere of humanity that produces articles. That's like, here are 30 women who talk about why they regret having children.
Starting point is 00:56:37 And it's like all selfish reasons. I will point out that the DOJ. Let me tell you how great my abortion was. Yeah, exactly. Like, you don't want to be with these people anyways. But I will point out that the DOJ sued Alabama for similar reasons. Alabama has Senate Bill 184. And it's effectively very similar, right?
Starting point is 00:56:53 It's restricting the medical procedures that you can offer children who identify as transgender. And they classify it as part of their push to prevent a gender-based discrimination. And I find this to be such a blatant show of activism. They sued Alabama in April of 2022. And you have to wonder, like, who is backing this? Like, can you, I guess, like, I have never really liked the federal government, so it's easy for me to say, like, we should let the states regulate on their own. But on the left, are you really that interested in authoritarianism
Starting point is 00:57:25 where you can have a Justice Department that just actively tries to selectively push its agenda? Like, at what point does that become appealing to someone? When you're growing up, when do you start thinking, like, you know what I really want? A really strong central government that promotes an ideology that destroys children. I don't think that the government, I think the government is,
Starting point is 00:57:45 from their perspective, the government is a necessary evil to achieve the ends that they're looking for. And they don't think about the fact that when you empower the government, you never, you know, just continues to amass power.
Starting point is 00:57:56 It's not going to give power back. Seems crazy to me. The other part that I find interesting is that the DOJ put out the statement saying like, this is a terrible thing to do, especially for transgender identifying youth, or they say transgender youth, but who are already at risk of suicide, depression, etc. And then the Tennessee Attorney General, his office put out a statement saying like, actually, no,
Starting point is 00:58:20 this is not a confirmed way to treat children. In fact, having them go through these treatments can increase suicide, anxiety, and depression. And so they're at this crossroads where, you know, we really don't know what to do with this issue. And so you can kind of argue the same thing and end up on different ends. It's the same screen, two different movies, like Scott Adams says.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Lucas, I mean, you're from Tennessee. Is there a significant appetite for this stuff around Nashville? Do you feel like there's a lot of people that are like so or does it seem like this stuff come is coming out of nowhere and there's not like a lot of support for it it it does seem like something that comes out of nowhere uh i'm not a real big conspiracy theorist but when all this stuff came is you know it's being talked about none of this is shocking to me and the reason this isn't shocking to me is for the last 50 years, everyone has
Starting point is 00:59:07 been desensitized to being okay with murdering babies. Something like 63 million, I think, is what I wrote down. I was doing some research earlier today. 63 million babies have been aborted in the last 50 years just here in our country. So over 50 years, people have been desensitized to, it's okay, it's acceptable. We can do it at
Starting point is 00:59:23 four weeks, six weeks, eight weeks. I think someone was telling me it was either the West Virginia governor a couple years ago was saying after the baby was born or it was Virginia governor. I can't remember. That was Virginia. That was Northam. And so with all this trans stuff about kids, if people don't value their children before they're born, why would they value their children after?
Starting point is 00:59:41 But the abortion thing, it is important to point out, of the 63 million, it was probably like 63 million Democrats. You know what I mean? But I mean, but, you know, it's not meant to be snide or rude or funny. Sure. To make the point like,
Starting point is 00:59:56 those are the people doing it. That's 63 million votes gone in 20 years for the Democratic Party. Yeah. And that means that the politics around abortion is going to change. No questions. I mean, people on the right say, yeah, but they're trying to indoctrinate our kids. And I'm like, yes, party yeah and that means that the the politics around abortion is going to change no questions i mean people on the right say yeah but they're trying to indoctrinate indoctrinate our kids and
Starting point is 01:00:08 i'm like yes but you're aware of that so as long as you're aware and you're resisting it then likelihood they change they convert your kids into being you know anti-baby well very low well and the trans thing too i mean i've only seen a few um you know stories come out of of kids afterwards who say they regret, you know, you read it. There's a lot. Honestly, it's probably the most sad, depressing thing I ever see are the stories of those kids who are like, I can never get this back.
Starting point is 01:00:32 I made this decision or my parents had me make this decision. I can't do anything. And I feel like in the next like five years, those are going to blow up. There's going to be a lot more of those or the suicide rate's going to go up even more. So at what point are people really going to ask the question or are they going to squish all those stories we've just keep doing it we've seen it before i mean we we've had there have been practices that have been banned lobotomies are banned yeah they they would go to people and say i think the appropriate treatment for your child is for us to remove a portion of their frontal lobe through their nose or something
Starting point is 01:00:58 like that and then they would turn their kids into zombies wasn't there like a kennedy yeah it's rosemary kennedy she's the first daughter so it was joe john and then rosemary and she had they believe like didn't have enough oxygen when she was born she always had some sort of brain disorder and it became progressively worse and her parents eventually heard like hey there's this cool new treatment it might be able to help and they were desperate i mean i think everyone looking back recognizes how wrong they were but when you don't have the information, I can understand. That's always 2020. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:26 But even then, there was enough. I mean, I think at the time when she had her lobotomy, it was only like 100 people had undergone them, which like already seems like too many. But again, if you didn't know, and if they're, as they were, misrepresenting the results of these things, I mean, I understand wanting to help the people you love, and especially if you're desperate. But I think it's obvious in this case that waiting is the best course of action, right? Offering other forms of therapy and really discussing with your child what's going on is so much safer than saying, take these drugs, alter your body.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Well, and I also feel like I saw a video, I think it was Jordan Peterson who posted earlier today of, and this obviously isn't happening for everyone but it's probably happening more than people want to admit there was this uh a bunch of tiktok videos of this dad with his trans daughter and uh the report was that he was using her for uh likes and attention yeah and uh that right there uh it has all sorts of problems with it but i i would be curious how many parents are doing going through with this to keep up with the joneses yeah it is now the new thing oh yeah my kids trans two years is two hey i'm doing this you know and i mean it's just a pawn bill barr mentions it we're seeing it in california but not ohio so either there's something happening
Starting point is 01:02:42 in the water in color in california or they're they're socializing their kids this way well and during covid when uh students went home there were all these anecdotal reports about we used to have you know six identifying uh trans identifying students and now it's only one of them a bunch of them decided when they were home with their families that they didn't actually feel this way right like of course it's anecdotal i'd love to see hard numbers on it but there is something to be said for the social contagion aspect of it. I think you're totally right.
Starting point is 01:03:09 I miss the days of the tiger mom when it's like all these women trying to make their kids be the best of whatever. Like, instead of trying to make your kid a different gender, can't you just like stress them out about getting good grades?
Starting point is 01:03:18 Not that that's a healthy way to parent, but yeah. Let's move on to this story that I really don't want to talk about, but kind of feel like we have to yashir ali journalist published footage from stephen crowder's home with his wife because they're going through a divorce and i don't think this should be uh published i think yashir ali was wrong to publish this i don't think it should be discussed but the issue is the the video's got half a million views. The tweet itself, I think,
Starting point is 01:03:45 has two million views. So I'm interested in talking about, to a certain degree, what it is, because it is a thing people are watching, but more so the ethics of why this should not be a thing and how I think it's being weaponized against Steven Crowder. So to put it simply, there's a few big stories right now. One, you may have seen Steven Crowder put out a video where he said that he's going through a divorce. It's horrendous. And that he, I think he said he's being extorted.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Is that what he said? He implied, right? Did he say extorted or? He said, if you know what extortion is, like this is what it feels like or something like that. Now the media,
Starting point is 01:04:17 Daily Beast reports, Steven Crowder's extortion war with Candace Owens, it blows up. And I'm wondering, how is it that Steven Crowder's divorce has become something for like Yashir to publish?
Starting point is 01:04:29 Why is it news? It's ridiculous. Because the left hates Steven Crowder. Because the left hates Steven Crowder. And so this is a huge opportunity for them to attack him, to accuse him of wrongdoing. And then you get this video, this video that I'm not going to play. I know a lot of people want me to play it people were commenting like you got to play the video people are mad at crowder dude i will not fall
Starting point is 01:04:50 for a 20 second out of context clip i'm not playing that game that's what i want to say about this to everybody who's seen this video you've got stephen crowder's wife she's very pregnant they're arguing i guess over a car or something. Like, I was surprised to learn that Crowder, his family has one car. Or supposedly. Supposedly. Do we know for sure? Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Because like when I hear the story that Crowder's fighting with his wife because he wants to use the car and he doesn't want her to use the car, I'm kind of like, maybe the other car's in the shop. Maybe. But Crowder seems like the kind of guy who would have three, maybe four or five cars. Maybe a collection he doesn't want to tell anyone about. Yeah, no, I mean, more, you know. But what I want to say about the video clip is a few questions.
Starting point is 01:05:31 One, how did Yashir Ali get three minutes of video footage of Crowder, quote, being emotionally abusive to his wife? From Crowder's house. From Crowder's house. His ring. So who is recording this? They have a ring camera in their, I mean, this is crazy. Audio and video recorded in his house. And what bothers me about this is, man, I'm reluctant to say what I think.
Starting point is 01:05:53 But I think Crowder is being set up. I mean, he wouldn't post that footage. Right. Himself. That means somebody knew the footage was available, shared it with the press press and who could that have been i mean it it is like it is possible that someone at ring but i mean i do i think that i think all right dude i'm just gonna say it come on man who do you think his wife yeah she's he's getting divorced so who who and he said it's become increasingly hostile like i wonder if this is actually something got
Starting point is 01:06:23 submitted to the court i don't want to accuse. I don't know that she did. I'm just saying Crowder in this video, he's not going to release that footage. If it was hacked footage, either of them, I would assume, would be upset by that. They would say it. Or they might both say it. Be like, hey, we're having issues, but our cameras in our home. Where our children live.
Starting point is 01:06:43 We're hacked. Where our children are. Like, this is an issue. We're going to sue Ring. And it's going to be a thing. But I don't think that's happened. They haven't said that. issues but our cameras in our home where our children were hacked where our children are like this is an issue we're gonna sue ring and it's gonna be a thing like but i don't think that's happened they haven't said that no you know i want to say something too that's kind of crazy is people are acting like this video is really bad and it's it's not so uh basically his wife says we're an impasse i love you but i need some time and then she's she accuses him she says something about his abuse and he says watch it watch it and like that's basically it and i'm
Starting point is 01:07:09 like i don't know what i'm supposed to be mad about they're just people want to be mad they want to be mad and it's actually impossible to judge because you we don't know them like we don't know them on this level i mean it's it's something that i think as a culture especially women are increasingly aware of like you need to be careful about the dynamics you put yourself in. And, like, I do know people who have been in really controlling relationships where, like, only having one car is a part of that. But I don't know the crowders well enough to have any context to believe that's where this comes from, right? Like, it's, I think, hard not to read it. You have to be careful not to read your own experience into it.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Like if you have been in a dangerous situation, you might see it, but if you haven't, you may not, it doesn't mean like, it's hard to know what it is. I remember I was, I was hanging out with some friends of mine. This is probably like six years ago. And I heard how they talked to each other. And I was like, man, I don't know if I like that. I'm not going to talk to my wife that way. And then over the years, as I got to know, I was like, oh, this is kind of how they joke
Starting point is 01:08:04 around with each other and say stuff. Now I'm not saying that's what's happening that way. And then over the years, as I got to know him, I was like, Oh, this is kind of how they joke around with each other and say stuff. Now I'm not saying that's what's happening here, but like a lot of people, especially people commenting on this, are they married? There's a relationship. Do they actually know what they're talking about? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:13 I have experience. You know, I'll probably, I'll probably get in trouble to some degree for saying my opinions on this. Cause I think it's a stupid story that shouldn't be published. But when I see camera footage released, that's got a 20 second clip that makes someone like crowder look bad and then i'll just put it this way
Starting point is 01:08:32 if there was a recording of say like let's say phil labonte was accused of wrongdoing and then all of a sudden a recording emerges and i'm like hello there phil tell me about that time you bought illegal drugs and then feels like we're talkingil tell me about that time you bought illegal drugs and then feels like we're talking about you know the illegal drugs you bought tell me you'd kind of assume that someone was intending on that recording existing for purposes of implicating another person so when i see this and again without accusing anybody i don't know when i see this and someone says let me tell you about your abuse steven i'm like are you what do people talk like that like it's a very specific thing to say to someone and then
Starting point is 01:09:08 crowder clearly reacts negatively to it he says watch it and then he says effing watch it and my response to that is like dude if someone walked up to me in my room and accused me of something as serious as that i might be like excuse me now get out like i'm not having that conversation because that's not true that's not fair what are you saying yeah worse still somebody leaked the footage to yashir ali yeah yeah i i mean anything i at this point with the way the culture war is going anybody that is a a prominent figure on the right it is every opportunity that that someone on the left can take to cannot to knock you down or to to smear you yeah they're going to take it's something
Starting point is 01:09:52 that people that are are oh yeah you know that are on the right that they have to be aware of oh okay so so fair point people are mentioning that's a twitter clip there's a three minute clip and he says a lot worse things he says i, I'm going to F you up. And so, you know, fair point. Like he should not have done that, right? I think it's- I haven't watched the full thing. Yeah, I haven't watched it. I think it's really hard
Starting point is 01:10:12 because saying really nasty things one time, like does that constitute being an abusive person or is it just you lost control in this one moment, right? Like we have no way to know what the pattern of their relationship is. And that's why it's hard to see this stuff online because like they have children the internet is forever is this one terrible fight for a couple that's already falling apart or is this a pattern of behavior that it's hard for the public to wrap their heads around because he is a
Starting point is 01:10:37 public figure well and this could be another issue of i mean often not always but in relationships it's not always just one person at fault it can be both people are at fault kind of like how wars happen there's not always a good guy and a bad guy sometimes it's just two kind of bad guys duking it out so i i just think that's a whole nother again there's just not enough context to know uh but i also know and maybe this is maybe a little bit of personal experience i've been married for two years now being in a position like he's in of constant criticism under a microscope at all times like that can put stress on a marriage i want to stress this too i didn't watch the three minute i didn't realize yasha released the entire three
Starting point is 01:11:13 and a half minutes i watched the clip on twitter and when i opened up the article on my phone the video wasn't there like i didn't see the video there until just now so that's my mistake so i apologize for that he snaps that are saying watch it effing watch it i will eff you up which led to his wife fleeing their home so like i think it's bad and i'm just i'm like the issue i take with it is it's personal private stuff if crowder did wrong he's paying the price for it they're the only reason it's news is because crowder is a prominent figure who's challenging the establishment and they know that they can they can take him down with something like this they've been waiting for something like this if crowder did something wrong in this moment he should he should apologize for being wrong and and doing a wrong thing
Starting point is 01:11:51 make things right to her but the purpose of this is to cause political and pr damage to a prominent individual who is challenging the machine it's just to smear it's pure culture war it's just smearing crowder because he's on the right that's all it is it's unfortunate but smear it's pure culture war it's just smearing crowder because he's on the right that's all it is it's unfortunate but that's that's the the it's a war yeah yeah it's the world and it doesn't make like the way he's talking to her okay it just means if he were a private citizen it would still be wrong oh yeah this happens it would be weaponized this way this is happening a thousand other times in america somewhere else with other people all over no one will know about talk about don't care yep they only care because it's him
Starting point is 01:12:27 and her absolutely absolutely sorry i just feel bad for their kids right because like oh yeah obviously this seems contentious and horrible divorce is so difficult for children as it is but like how many kids they have i don't know do they uh well she's pregnant in the clip yeah like there's one on the way twins there's a lot of really serious accusations in here and like my view is just this I don't care to condemn someone because of clip even the three and a half minute one
Starting point is 01:12:53 I read the quote where he said that and stuff like that and it's like man to take three minutes of someone's life and then condemn them over that without knowing everything else unless there was like serious like let's say he got up and someone's life and then condemn them over that without knowing everything else. Unless there was like serious, like, let's say he got up and started beating. That'd be different.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Cause then it'd be like, that's pretty obvious. That should be reported to the police. That's like one of the issues that so many people have about abuse. Like the way people talk about abuse is because like, if like someone punched me in the face, right. We would all agree that's been not okay. But if you are constantly in a place where you're like in fear because of the way you're being treated the way you're talking to like being talked to stuff like that like that is psychologically damaging it's just much harder to analyze like
Starting point is 01:13:33 in some ways we wish abuse was more clear-cut and like in this case like we just don't have the context to know what's going on that's why it's like i wish this wasn't out here i wish we weren't we didn't have to talk about it or address it because like I would never, I don't think you can accurately prescribe what's going on from three minutes. If it is a really toxic dynamic, I hope both of them get help. And if it's, this was just a bad moment,
Starting point is 01:13:56 I, again, I have to reiterate, like they have children, this will live on forever. And that's who's suffering the most from all of this. Yep. And they'll both, and the issue here too is they'll both be bothered by it. They go through with the divorce.
Starting point is 01:14:06 She goes somewhere else. People will always know her as the woman in this clip. And he'll always be known as the dude in this clip. So they're both screwed over. I don't see how there's a winner by releasing this. Even if, whether it be. It could help with a lawsuit potentially or, or, um, divorce court. Well,
Starting point is 01:14:25 I mean, having it would, but like putting it out and, and it doesn't help giving it to, you know, having, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:14:30 sure. Put it out. It doesn't, uh, it doesn't, does, I don't see how, how there's any,
Starting point is 01:14:34 unless it's like a moment of anger, right? Like we really think she leaked it. And she's like, the way you said your statement makes it sound like this was something I did. And you're the victim. And I feel like I suffered. I mean,
Starting point is 01:14:43 it's not an okay way to handle it in my opinion but again it's my opinion i did not have to be involved with any of this and i again i just think that like these videos last forever and their kids are going to inevitably google themselves and this will come up people are saying like don't defend steven blah blah and i'm like bro i have seen so many video videos from protests or of people being who are like supposedly innocent being beaten by cops or whatever and then the full video comes out and so i'm just saying like i'm not saying steven's perfect he probably has to apologize for a lot okay and that's fine but the the fact is this is being weaponized by people who just want to take down steven crowder for
Starting point is 01:15:19 political reasons well and if all of us examined ourselves i mean i know there have been nights that i've neglected my wife not done things for her and if there were clips posted of me sitting at my computer gaming and not spending time with her people could be like whoa look how selfish lucas is playing video games and not spending time with his wife i mean we're still how many of us are guilty of similar things how about this what if you were playing video games with your wife and you're saying stuff like if i catch you you will kill you yeah right i can't believe he said that and it's like your wife's laughing and she's like oh and you know exactly but context it matters too what i don't like about this video is i just the question of who leaked it and if the if it was leaked is this like was someone aware that they were having a
Starting point is 01:16:01 recording created and they said things you know what what I mean? Just like, imagine if you walked up to somebody who trusted you and didn't think that you would leak a recording of them or whatever. And then they said something to you intentionally to make you angry that you knew wasn't true. And there's nothing you can say. Like, if I went to film, it was like, I know you stole my bike. You'd be'd be like what and then you have a negative reaction to it then someone leaks the footage being like when tim confronted phil over stealing his bike phil freaked out and got really angry so much is true yeah right right right wouldn't you be angry if someone accused you of abusing them if you if you didn't do it you know what i mean like so i'm not saying i'm gonna f you up like it's not great i'm not saying he's innocent at all. I'm just saying like.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Critical thinking skills are important. I didn't have this even slated for tonight until everyone was like super chatting and asking about it. And I'm like, the problem I see here is that everyone's jumping the gun and immediately just attacking Crowder over this. And it's like, okay, like I'll say it again. Innocent until proven guilty. It doesn't look good, but it's also none of our business yeah is there a date on this video i think yes i think it was uh 2021 yeah this doesn't make again doesn't make the exchange better at all but like it makes me wonder like you know if you realize that you're in a terrible dynamic with someone like do you do work do you seek out a priest or a therapist like Like, how do you work through these things?
Starting point is 01:17:25 And like, at what point? Like, we'll never know the context of what's going on or what afterwards looks like. So June 26, 2021. So they have twins and yeah. So I don't want to get too in-depth on making assumptions about this because of my experience and because of people close to me's experience with
Starting point is 01:17:50 abusive partners and stuff I'm going to leave it at this like if you're in a situation where you feel like you are being abused just get out of it just leave our guitar player has passed away and leading up to his death there was a lot of abuse in his relationship uh if if you're in a situation
Starting point is 01:18:15 just leave just leave don't worry about telling people don't worry about stories just get out of it i want i want to add one thing like what i don't like seeing videos on the internet that are like a short snippet and then condemning someone. I like evidence. That's what I did with the Covington kids. But I also am aware that the left has this technique, this trick, where they'll start filming. And then they'll go, why did you just do this thing? Why did you just call me this slur? Why did you just hit me?
Starting point is 01:18:39 And you don't actually see the thing happen. You just see them saying, why did you do it? And the other person is yelling. And they're like, like aha here's a video of a person who did x so it's just like sorry man what can you believe anymore yep well apparently people are saying uh the wife released it because that crowder was lying about the situation yeah yeah i just i don't know why why would the wife release it is it because like she's not a public figure? Yeah, but maybe that's what she's, like, unhappy about. Like, she feels like she suffered, and now Stephen's getting to say, like,
Starting point is 01:19:12 this wasn't my choice. I didn't want to get divorced. And she's like, you didn't attend to our marriage the way you should have. I'm just speculating. I don't actually know. I don't want to, like. I guess one thing that Yasha reports is that Crowder actually got a divorce lawyer, like, in advance or something. But he's in control of the money. That makes sense to me. I find it all very
Starting point is 01:19:29 suspect. I really do. You know, Crowder is a person that they've been desperate to get rid of for a very, very long time. He's extremely prominent and effective when it comes to messaging and humor and building culture. He's the only competition for like, well, Gutfeld now, but for a while, it was the only right-leaning competition to late night comedy or like morning talk shows. I am not saying he is innocent. I'm just saying it gives me pause
Starting point is 01:19:56 and makes me, you know, I find it suspicious. Well, and there are a lot of people who have chaotic personal lives who can do good, right? Like it doesn't make the messaging and like the entertainment value and the things that he has done to like introduce people to all kinds of important ideas less valuable. It just means that he is a flawed person. But so is everyone at the end of the day.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Yeah. But nobody, it's tough. Like I know I've mistreated people in relationships and even people at work. And then also my wife neglecting her or whatever. And I think a lot of people just are unwilling to acknowledge that. Then they want to go judge everyone else's lifestyle instead of going,
Starting point is 01:20:35 oh, am I actually making some of the same mistakes? And I think that's a lot of the problem. And a lot of the reason they want to go after someone like Crowder or other people who are having issues with their own life is so that they can prop themselves up and feel good yes well i'm not doing that i think it's like no you're actually doing that in another way you just won't but but but that people are saying it's crowder's fault he brought this up it's like um maybe the reason
Starting point is 01:20:55 crowder brought it up was because his wife gave the video footage to journalists and to and he knew it and he was like there's nothing i can do about it now they're going to publish this footage so i'll get in front of it now people are acting like that's proof they had no choice but to release the footage and give a statement because crowder brought it up and it's like if this has been going on for two years and crowder didn't say anything at all ever until yashir ali like right was about like was just about to publish the story it kind of lends itself to they took this move against crowder not the other way around yeah yeah it's just sad all around yep i don't know does this mean that you know you guys in the chat are going to stop they took this move against Crowder, not the other way around. Yeah. It's just sad. It's sad all around, yep.
Starting point is 01:21:26 I don't know. Does this mean that, you know, you guys in the chat are going to stop watching Steven Crowder or something? Some people probably want to boycott him. Probably, yeah. I mean, I imagine so, but I don't imagine that his audience is going to,
Starting point is 01:21:39 I mean, it depends on what comes out. If it's bad-mouthing and fighting and, you know know bitterly arguing with his wife people probably won't leave him like high and dry they'll just be like okay you were kind of crappy just so long as it's not too grossly offensive if it comes out that he was doing you know other kind of things that that kind of cross physical lines or whatever then you might lose an audience sure well this is kind of going back to the first topic of conversation with budweiser um if there if there was some stuff going on and now this is public for pr but i also think just from a moral standpoint um if crowder just did a video
Starting point is 01:22:15 going hey i'm sorry you all had to see my personal life and what happened yes i'm imperfect yes i did some of these things we're now trying to part ways as well as we can and etc etc and he did a video you know coming forward and explaining the situation and apologizing for any wrongdoing that he did because he probably did at some level especially i imagine if the video you know based on the video uh i think a lot of people would go oh okay thank you um you're transparent you're being genuine and real that's what they want bud weiser to do here's what i here's what i'm going to choose to believe. I'm going to,
Starting point is 01:22:47 I mean this as a joke, by the way, that after Crowder came after The Daily Wire, Jeremy Boring sits down and he's like, how dare he? And then he's like, pull out all the stops. It's time for my revenge. And then like Candace and Michael Knowles are there and Matt Walsh,
Starting point is 01:23:02 and they're like, we were at your disposal, Jeremy. And he's like, I want dirt on this guy. Whatever you can can find i'm kidding call call up my buddy at uh at amazon so that way i can get his ring camera oh my gosh no you shouldn't have a ring camera i don't watch this i'm like don't want any like cloud-based cameras and they all floated like was it a hack like the fact no no apparently they're saying that uh i guess candace said it was the wife it was was Crowder's wife.
Starting point is 01:23:25 That's the simplest explanation, but I'm just anti-Amazon Ring cameras, and I feel like this is a good moment to put that in there. Close circuit all the way. When someone is on camera and they're like, Phil, that time you struck me was wrong. And then you're like, what are you talking about? Don't deny it. Now you're proving it.
Starting point is 01:23:41 And then the footage gets released, and it's like, oh, wow, look at this. Phil looks really, really bad. I'm just kind of like, you know, she walks up to him, and she says he's abusing I, and then the footage gets released and it's like, Oh wow. Look at this. Phil looks really, really bad. I'm just kind of like, you know, she walks up to him and she says he's abusing her and then gives the footage to someone. It's kind of like, Oh no, he does yell.
Starting point is 01:23:51 He does yell. And he says some like crazy stuff. Like stuff. I would, uh, 15 minutes ago, there was a 38 Chinese warplanes and six vessels of the people's liberation army Navy detected around Taiwan timing.
Starting point is 01:24:02 Taiwanese defense ministry says, but what does that have to do with Crowder getting divorced? I don't know Classic China breaking news on a Friday Yeah right I'm sorry for Feels like Tim this is more important I just saw that
Starting point is 01:24:19 Where did you see that story? Insider paper they are verified So that means they have eight dollars and uh that means 259 259 000 followers do people trust people more with blue check marks still do you think i don't think so yeah i don't think so now you can buy one but also i'm not seeing the story it was arbitrary about who got it like you had to be it people definitely respected it back then like for sure but then it was at twitter's discretion like if they liked you you would get one i get that it had like a symbolic all right this is
Starting point is 01:24:49 just breaking right now 38 warplanes six vessels of people's liberation army navy detected around taiwan taiwanese defense ministry says well i mean okay it's just it's the waiting i can't stand so especially you know i actually thought they would make the moves closer to the election because it would be more chaotic. During elections, the president is limited in what they can or can't do. Because they're so distracted. No, it's not just that. It's that if there's pros and there's cons.
Starting point is 01:25:18 If Joe Biden reacted decisively and took action, people might cheer for it. But if he screws up, he's done for and it'll put someone else in power. So it ties their hands behind their back. I don't know. Maybe we're sitting here talking about stupid culture war drama nonsense and China's about to invade Taiwan. World War III is starting, right?
Starting point is 01:25:38 Yeah. How many times have we said World War III started by now? I think it's like eight. Maybe 16. I think the Pope said world war three started russian media says world war three russia's media this has been on it for a while it started in russia dying for they're really hoping as well yeah but i don't know i'm not not seeing much more on this one so me neither i'm sorry that could be a false it could it could also no i mean this is being reported inside papers reporting it right so we'll see i guess
Starting point is 01:26:04 but hey i don't know how about how about this little tidbit vice news is gone Inside paper is reporting it, right? So we'll see, I guess. But hey, I don't know. How about this little tidbit? Vice News is gone. Does it make you nostalgic, Tim? It breaks my heart. It breaks my heart. Vice News tonight formally shut down.
Starting point is 01:26:19 And I just think it's funny that you've got these Vice News staffers that are like, to the original crew that helped launch Vice News, we changed the game, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, that's me. You're like, I did. You know you're talking about me, right? Because you guys don't like me. But I was thinking of retweeting them and being like, thank you. Thank you. Thank you for the compliment.
Starting point is 01:26:34 So for those that don't know, I was the first person hired at Vice to start Vice News. There was no Vice News. They hired me. And then like six months later, they were like, should we create a news division, like a brand for this? And then they did. And I was, uh, so they had news in the sense that vice would make documentaries. And then it would just, they would say like, it's a news thing. And then eventually decided to launch a specific brand called device news. I was the first person. And so I brought new methodologies, new technologies and reporting
Starting point is 01:27:04 styles. they then hired a bunch of people i left after about a year and a few months and then they went woke real quick it was really creepy over over like like a year after i left the company just went woke woke woke and it was so weird because when i was there it was like sex drugs and rock and roll tumblr was still around as soon as they close as soon as they got sex off of tumblr all the woke stuff got spilled out into the rest of the internet did you feel like coming when you were there at all or was just like absolutely not and uh i mean there was corporatizing you could feel that but apparently what happened was a friend of mine who
Starting point is 01:27:37 was a higher up said that they had faced too many sexual harassment lawsuits and so the investors came to them and said, the only way out of this is to embrace feminism. And they said, you got it. And that was their defense against being sued for sexual harassment and stuff. Wow. So does this mean Vice,
Starting point is 01:27:54 and I don't fully understand this, Vice is just gone or is Vice still a thing? Vice is a thing. Vice News. Vice News tonight is being canceled and they're laying a bunch of people off. So they'll still have something called Vice News, but the main show that was on TV for the past decade is gone. Ah, so is this the first TV show gone as the internet is taking over?
Starting point is 01:28:14 Is that what this is? No, no, it's just Get Well, Go Broke. They burned themselves to the ground. The first show they had was called Vice and it was amazing. The first show, just Vice was so good so good man vice back in the day for people who know it it was basically four dudes it was it was sarush it was shane it was uh who was the other guy uh was it no gavin gavin was gone at this point they had four hosts of their show i can't remember i can't remember their names. And then the show was basically like weird travel stuff. It was traveling on the world to crazy places and
Starting point is 01:28:50 exploring. And then I guess what happened was HBO wanted to cancel it. And so they announced abruptly before HBO can re re re-upped it, that they were already being renewed for a new season, which forced HBO's hand. But then HBO came back. I don't know if this is true. This is what I heard when I worked there. HBO came back and said, how dare you? And they were like, too bad. You're locked in now. It's been announced to the press and everyone's expecting it. And so then HBO was like, if we're going to do it, then changes have to be made. And here's the best part. I was told that I couldn't host for them because I was a white dude. that doesn't seem
Starting point is 01:29:26 racist at all oh my goodness but i was like but i'm actually mixed race and they're like yeah but you know you're a guy who looks too white and so they were like you and you can notice this too when you look at the advice on hbo staff they bring in like an indian guy some women they brought in a bunch of women and so when i had joined them i, I want to be an on-air host and I will bring my brand and the work that I do. And they agreed. And then sure enough, I asked them and they were like two things. One, fair point.
Starting point is 01:29:54 I did not have hosting experience for documentary. So I was doing like basically what I'm doing now. And they wanted more pizzazz. Totally fair. So they had me host some stuff. But then when it came to hbo they said you're a white dude have a nice day get lost they didn't say it like that they're just like look we've got a mandate they want you know people of color and women but they just straight up said
Starting point is 01:30:15 it oh yeah hands down i mean i was told the same thing by fusion when i worked there the abc news company when they did uh they had the black and brown forum and they brought in, they had like three of their senior talent, uh, cat, uh, staff talent, and then one external guy. And this was like Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders were being questioned by a panel of journalists. And so they just said nothing to me. And so I go to the president and I was like, is there a reason you guys had the other main talent and not me, your, like, senior reporter? And the guy goes, oh, it's because it's racist because you're white. Literally told me that.
Starting point is 01:30:53 And then I was like, but I'm mixed. He's like, yeah, but come on, man. And I was like, I mean, hey, like, the dude was kind of cool. I get it. I mean, he was just a businessman. That's when you call up the makeup artist for Tropic Thunder. And then you're like do me up and i'm gonna go back in there i just thought that was so funny i was like okay well all right then and when was that how many years ago was that this is 20 2014 or 15 2015 because it's like the presidential election
Starting point is 01:31:21 they're in bernie sanders and hillary clinton they were going to be questioned by people and it was called the black and brown forum and then i was like i guess being like asian doesn't count like i don't i don't count as like part of this diverse america and and keep in mind too because a lot of people might want to say like tim your politics no no this is this is almost a decade ago and i had no politics like i had politics but i wasn't doing anything like this my videos were all like i'm here on the ground in fukushima japan and there's radiation you were a journalist that's all i was doing yeah there was no like me coming in the office and being like here's what i think about the wage gap here's
Starting point is 01:31:50 about guns it was literally just like oh i did it we did i did a documentary on police brutality and the ferguson riots and that and that was what i worked on and then when it came to this they outright said you look too white you can't be involved i'm like that's the world they wanted to create so get what go bro good riddance to all of you if only your genetics had uh performed slightly differently and you look slightly more asian i mean that's like the most like it's so disgusting to hear people talk like that but like it sounds sounds like it would have helped you in this case anyway though in this case being more asian wouldn't have helped yeah yeah i think they don't like asian people no i mean it probably would have it probably would have but i actually lobbied to him i was like isn't it fair to say that
Starting point is 01:32:29 like a mixed race person is is representative of a changing america and should have a voice and he was just like you look white dude you have to like bring your grandma with you be like no for real look i can prove it like that's so weird pulling elizabeth warren and be like i'm actually this well they would let her so weird. Pull an Elizabeth Warren and be like, I'm actually this. Well, they would let her in. That's the funny thing. They'd be like, welcome, please sit down. Tell us about your native tribe.
Starting point is 01:32:52 But that's why I can't stand all the woke people in the race theory stuff and the ideology is because it's all lies. It's all just not true. Luke Rakowski is a person of color. He's got blonde hair and blue eyes. What's going on? Oh, he's Polish. So he's Slavic.
Starting point is 01:33:07 That's right. But Asians overperform. So we don't count. And I'm mostly white. So I just say. I mean, you guys are good at literally everything, no matter what. So that is true. That's right.
Starting point is 01:33:16 We made gunpowder before you guys. It's true. And the compasses. Yep. Yeah. Whatever, man. Good riddance to a bad problem. Did you see that they just had the state to state
Starting point is 01:33:27 dinner with uh south korea and we invited all of our like south korean adjacent influencers like mad at pick maddox pidgeoly he went with his mom angelina and like joanna gaines was there made me very uncomfortable but maybe people liked it i don't know wait like the white house hi i'm richard karn and you may have seen me on TV talking about the world's number one expandable garden hose. Well, the brand new pocket hose Copperhead with pocket pivot is here. And it's a total game changer. Old fashioned hoses get kinks and creases at the spigot. But the Copperhead's pocket pivot swivels 360 degrees for full water flow and freedom
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Starting point is 01:34:51 blake lively and her husband because he's canadian got to go and this time you know they always invite some celebrities so it was like joanna gains who does the waco you know house stuff and she's she's also i don't remember what percentage but she's also of korean descent and then angelina jolie went with her son who is uh of south south korean descent and i think he even lives there now i'm not totally sure but it did feel a little bit like weird i don't know maybe no one else felt that way slightly right pandering is the strategy nowadays i mean it's what you have to do to survive well or die i guess in this case yeah i don't know i guess maybe they wouldn't invite me to something like that because it would be offensive to the korean people because they're the older generation are very racial supremacist joanna gaines went she's mixed but is she is she half i don't know maybe because
Starting point is 01:35:37 she passes as korean but i think she can also pass as white yeah i feel like this is gonna get everybody's gonna talk about this in a way that's okay worlds where you can pass as white. Yeah. I feel like this is going to get, there's no way for me to talk about this in a way that's okay. Is this the best of both worlds where you can pass as two different? And she brought her white husband, so I don't know. Most of my life, white people just assumed I was Mexican.
Starting point is 01:35:52 But for real, the way my facial hair grows, and they'd just be like, oh, you're Mexican. So you have the best of all three worlds is what you're saying. I guess,
Starting point is 01:36:00 unless you're surrounded by woke people who just don't want to be dealing with what you are because in their world, if they can't define you by race, they can't define you at all. They're going to be horribly racist. Well, there's a solution. You just have to be trans and then you're at the top. You're at the pinnacle if you do that.
Starting point is 01:36:14 That's true. Yeah. That is the meta content move is to be like, if I told you my sexual preference, would that put me at the higher portion of the list? It's probably a little a little over there. Like maybe. It's like you go to these meetings and they say like hey you Phil
Starting point is 01:36:28 you can't come in here and then he goes what if I told you my sexual preference? I'm listening. I'm Pauly. Oh that puts you 50-50.
Starting point is 01:36:37 You win. You don't get to host but you do occasionally get to be a featured guest. So it is funny so with government government contracting that is a thing.
Starting point is 01:36:46 Like when there's a bid out there for purchasing a thing, it's like if they're a female-owned business, if they're veteran-owned, if they're disabled, and if they, I believe, race is another one. So there are companies that literally will pick a CEO who can stack as many of these things as possible to be the tiebreaker for contracts. So it's already a structure.
Starting point is 01:37:04 It's a good news. Timcast is a minority-owned company. Oh, there you go. Boom. Can I add that to our Google or whatever? Yes. Like, you know, they rank us up because, you know. Add some pronouns as well.
Starting point is 01:37:14 You probably do. Yeah, put my pronouns in there and then we'll get number one. I tried to put in Apache helicopter gunship on Instagram and it didn't let me do that. Oh, that's bigotry right there. It was. All right, everybody.
Starting point is 01:37:24 We're gonna go to Super Chat. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends, and become a member by going to timcast.com and clicking join us. As a member, you'll get access to the Discord server where you can hang out with like-minded individuals. If you are a member for at least six months or
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Starting point is 01:37:57 All right. Das Ruse says, so happy Lucas showed up. GWOT vet here. Just found a community here in florida who trains every saturday we'll be training with them and growing the two-way community down here for more free and self-reliant florida thanks lucas awesome love to hear it right on sideways 2013 said so earlier my default democrat mom who voted biden came to me and was pissed about biden putting forward higher mortgage fees for people with good credit to cover for bad credit equality versus equity there it is you guys see that story yeah that if you've got bad credit your
Starting point is 01:38:30 your costs go down you've got good credit it goes up unreal communism is coming baby and it's gonna suck and the people who suffer most are the people in the middle of that yep what do we got here john kristen says luc, love the Arrow 308 5K review video. Any other 308 5K videos in the works? Love to see one either for the Sig 716i or Ruger SFAR. No. Yeah, that took a lot of time,
Starting point is 01:38:59 a lot of energy. It was not the 308 recoil. That was not the problem. It was just so much time to do that video but we'll do more is that normal for your gunner videos does it take like so no i went i wanted to shoot a rifle to 5 000 rounds and it's a 308 rifle so like it punches a little bit but on a range day i can efficiently only shoot maybe a thousand rounds and so it's five film days plus stuff in the middle so i mean we're talking three
Starting point is 01:39:25 weeks to finish one video when a lot of content creators will do a video in a day and i'm like i'm gonna keep going out there so you know it's four videos or one i do like eight per day yeah because i just turn the camera i do not i i do not want your life i don't want to be i don't know it's probably easier no every job My production is that I read the news and then I complain about it. You know what I mean? Yeah, but what happens, you know, before the show, it's like,
Starting point is 01:39:50 ah, what's there to talk about? Right. The pre-production hour where it's like, so the reason this show works, for those that know, is because of my morning show. During the morning show, I read 8,000 articles.
Starting point is 01:40:00 Then when we come upstairs an hour before this show, I'm like, here's the news, everybody. Like, here's everything I saw today. What do you you guys think and then we pick what we think is the big story that's cool yeah all right this stupid b says i'm glad to see such a great two-way advocate on the show love your content lucas i also hope mr potato man loves my name coming from a fellow potato man oh yeah potato man's not here he left he couldn't handle the heat he's weak and he left i'm just kidding i don't know where he is marshall p says tim whatever happened to tim cast grants
Starting point is 01:40:30 to help new projects projects fight the culture war in the works um the difficult thing is being one person and doing all of this crazy stuff it is very difficult however um i have given uh how many grants have i given i think i've given two in the past couple of weeks so the issue is i don't know if i should be announcing who i gave money to you don't want them to get targeted or something i just you know yeah i don't know there have been uh what's what's the thing so the idea is once a month to get grant 10k to someone who's working on a cultural project to uh like i mean is it public is the thing they're working on going to be a public thing that everyone yes and so this month i've given some money out but i don't know if like they've given me permission to just be like they're funded by because you don't want to oprah bump them you
Starting point is 01:41:31 don't want to be like over here and they're not ready for that kind of attention but like i need their results right you know i don't want to yeah i think because the two things that i just recently funded i just chose to do i didn't have a pre pre like I didn't go to them and say, hey, here's the plan. I just gave them the money. So it's like 20 grand I've given out in the past week. So the problem with not ever saying where it's going. No, this is just one time right now I'm saying. In the future, the idea is like, we'll hit someone and be like, hey, we want to shout you out on the show and we want to give you some money for this.
Starting point is 01:42:00 But these two, one's not really, it's not fair to say i gave out 20 i gave out i gave 10 grand to a to a person doing very important work and then i gave money to someone who's doing some other fighting that's not super cultural or whatever but uh it's not necessarily where we're trying to go with it so i don't think i want to shout out if it's not a consistent thing then i but the idea is like once a month maybe at the end of the month we will say this is the person we've chosen so the issue is it's going to be in the discord where we're trying. There's a lot of challenges to this. If it's in the discord, meaning you have to be a member. Now all of a sudden, there's some kind of like sweepstakes thing to it. So then do we have to invest in the project?
Starting point is 01:42:35 Makes it very, very difficult. So we're trying to figure out. And the idea was if you're in the discord, we have people basically vote on it. Members of Timcast.com can be like, hey, we think this project should be shouted out on the show. And we want to do that every Friday. We were going to shout out Salty Draws, one of our members, last Friday. But he asked us to wait until he was ready and we could actually review the book. So then we waited. But that's the other thing we're planning on doing.
Starting point is 01:42:57 Fridays, we will do a sponsor spot for our members. So people who are members at TimCast.com are sponsoring the show. So it's like, why read out some corporate ad when we can just shout you guys out and help your projects? That was a brilliant idea coming from one of our members. So yeah, TimCast Grants is preliminary.
Starting point is 01:43:19 And I might just give a bunch of money away like crazy. I don't know. It's awesome. Well, like my thing is, I don't need to buy another car. I actually have a bunch of money away like crazy i don't know it's awesome well like my thing is i don't i don't need to buy another car like i i actually have a lot of cars uh i don't and we do need more people okay if the left has all this funding which they do a lot i don't think anyone's going to dispute that yeah the right needs funding too so when people can help do some of that it's pretty awesome maybe we can do like a mr. Beast style thing, you know, like giving money to people in fun ways to make more money and then give more money away.
Starting point is 01:43:48 But yeah, the general idea is to give money to people so that they can produce cultural work so that if we give 100 people money and one of them writes, you know, a masterpiece, then we're expanding our cultural influence. That's good. So I did just give out a bunch of money to someone I thought deserved it. I'm not going to shout them out unless they explicitly tell me they're cool with me doing it. So I'm not going to,
Starting point is 01:44:10 but there's someone that everyone knows who's doing very important work. So what's happening? But yeah, yeah. So the issue is for us, it's are we investing? Are we legally cleared to do it? And it's just, it's a nightmare
Starting point is 01:44:22 getting all this stuff going. Like we've been, we got the coffee shop in the works the coffee just started shipping so there's a lot of bags of cash this oh we're going to a cashless society never mind yeah that's the thing too like i think our coffee shop might be like cash only or something but i don't know how long you can resist you know what i mean right and are you potentially losing business because some people who don't carry around that much cash. Too bad. Can you get out of here, sister? The point is they're going to demand taxes be paid in the currency.
Starting point is 01:44:50 That's how the currency is going to have guaranteed value. There will be a banking crisis. They will say you have to convert your cash to a Fed coin or whatever. And then they're going to demand that payment for taxes. Anyway, let's move on. Let's move on. Let's read some more Super Chats. Aaron says,
Starting point is 01:45:10 Serge, thanks for crash-proofing the UFO. What is that? I don't know what you're talking about. And you also spelled my name incorrectly. So I'm just going to ignore that. It's all good, though. Is this the fact that I somehow managed to dislodge the UFO every time I sit in this chair?
Starting point is 01:45:25 Maybe. I don't know. I've done it at least three times, though. Wow. Is this the fact that I somehow managed to dislodge the UFO every time I sit in this chair? Maybe. I don't know. I'm not going to say anything. I don't think anything did that. I've done it at least three times, to be honest. Hey, well, when you're making these pretty origami swans, by the way, which we've been making the entire time, I can understand. There you guys go.
Starting point is 01:45:36 Did you guys ever read the thing about the thousand paper cranes? Yes, I did. I just want to start having a wish by the end of the night. Oh, true. But then am I going to die from cancer? What is this poor thing? No, we're resisting it. Why is its back so big? Look, look i don't have origami paper i'm using post-it notes we're doing the best we can those should work let me see oh so now it's a competition how oh definitely is it is
Starting point is 01:45:55 is it because they're not it's not like jumping on it can you like push on it there's squares no like little frog yeah i can i can make those yeah the frogs that jump you guys want some post-it notes you want to join in my the sticky part of it makes it hard yeah the sticky i'll make a little origami gun see if i can make a gun i can make a i can make a balloon where you actually blow it up and then you can write like a little message on the inside of those and like look through them can you make the fortune teller thing yeah i can make those it'll be hard with the sticky i'll come better prepared for next show cool appreciate it Appreciate it. Jack Tatro says, Luke is huge fan of your work.
Starting point is 01:46:26 Been looking forward to this episode for the longest time. I have a few of your holsters and a hat signed by your amazing staff. Train. That's cool. I Y S Y S. What does that mean? If you suck, you suck.
Starting point is 01:46:37 Oh, yes, that's, that's, that's true. Yep. Yep. Just some words to live by,
Starting point is 01:46:42 you know, Matthew Schneider says, Hey says hey tim i saw the results of your twitter poll earlier on whether the mentally ill should vote what are your thoughts makes me kind of sad because i have a diagnosis but i'm also stable and far from an insane leftist so i was really really really annoyed at the responses that i got to that poll i said should people with mental illnesses be allowed to vote i I did not say, should the government be able to subjectively define mental illnesses so they can restrict their political enemies from voting? And that's what so many people started saying.
Starting point is 01:47:13 Mental ill people should be allowed to vote because the government will claim they're any, everyone's mentally ill. I'm like, that's not the question. The question is, in your mind, so like there were no external parameters to this. Quite literally, a person is standing there and they're like, yes, mentally ill. Should they vote or should they not vote? It's not a question about the government, but the government can and will not do. It's whether or not you think people who have mental illnesses should be allowed to vote.
Starting point is 01:47:32 That's it. No context. I think it's not. My response is you can't really answer it in a poll, which is unfair that I asked it in a poll. Sure. which is unfair that i asked it in a poll sure because the the answer is mentally ill people within a certain confine of men like a certain category of mentally ill shouldn't vote but uh how we define mental illness can vary in which someone has a mental illness that doesn't impair their judgment on policy issues it just makes them like anxious and we call that a mental
Starting point is 01:48:00 illness or something you know what i mean or uh do they consider adhd a mental illness or something. You know what I mean? Or do they consider ADHD a mental illness? Probably. I think those are mental disorders. I think it's like on the learning disability spectrum. I just think that if you took away, if anybody was mentally ill, wasn't allowed to vote, as much as I'm not saying I'm in favor of that process, I do think society would be functioning to a much, much, much, much, much better degree. But my question would be, so a question that's always thrown out about, you know, everyone should have guns, everyone should have the right to own guns.
Starting point is 01:48:29 People go, what about someone with Down syndrome? And I'm like, okay, do you actually know anyone with Down syndrome that really wants to own a gun? And so I kind of bring up the same question. If someone is actually mentally, like genetically, their brain, whatever, got some issue, like, is this even a question? Is this even a thing? Or is it a scenario we're coming up in our mind that's not actually a legitimate scenario? It's like the nuclear weapons question
Starting point is 01:48:51 when it comes to the 2A. Right, exactly. And people that are like, oh, you know, if you're a Second Amendment absolutist, do you think people should be allowed to own nuclear weapons? Well, can people own nuclear weapons? No.
Starting point is 01:49:03 You need a state infrastructure to be able to produce nuclear weapons. I don't adjust the government with them either. What are you talking about? There was a guy who made a radioactive death ray in his garage. That's different than a nuclear weapon. You're talking about an explosive. Well, okay. So when I say nuclear weapon, my thought process goes to a nuclear, a thermonuclear weapon,
Starting point is 01:49:28 not something that has a radiological component. So you can make a dirty bomb. Who makes nuclear weapons? Usually states make them. They don't. Well, they're made. Okay. So they're probably made by.
Starting point is 01:49:39 Private corporations. I'm not sure who does them. Private contractors produce the weapons for them yeah so that that was the big issue when i said that individuals have a right to keep and bear nuclear weapons and everyone's like no they don't i'm like it's private corporations that are already the weapons for the government it's not you know so so they have contracts with the government it yes but no individual owns the corporations those are all they're all government they're government or they're they're
Starting point is 01:50:06 large the point is the infrastructure required to produce or procure or or to sustain a nuclear weapon means that you can do it just say musk yeah maybe musk he's already launching rockets and stuff but again this this comes to the point where you're talking about a handful of people and states so practically nuclear weapons as a as a means of self-defense are is not an actual it's not an actual top and that's and that's where i feel like a lot of these arguments on like oh can mentally yeah people are people down soon want guns i'm like let's let's go find some facts that this is actually happening that it's an actual realistic scenario a realistic what, and let's not base a bunch of laws on a thing that doesn't even happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:47 And restrict everyone else because of the thing that doesn't happen. I would wonder too if the pushback against, like if you said mentally ill people can't vote, like if people would say, well, you're discouraging people from seeking counseling and potentially being diagnosed
Starting point is 01:50:58 because they think you'll take this away from them and therefore that's more dangerous. I mean, I don't think anyone should vote, but that's just me. So how do you- Lucas looks shocked right now. I shocked i don't know but i just want to hear i mean sure yeah i'm not what's your game plan phil i i don't have to have an answer to say that to say that no solution i don't want something to happen i mean i don't you know i i i'm i'm i've got that that whole like you know emotional anarchist anarchist thing going on with me.
Starting point is 01:51:25 You know, it's like- Yeah, there's always a hierarchy established. I understand that. It's always powerful. I understand that. But in your dream world, no one votes. Exactly. That's what I really like to see.
Starting point is 01:51:34 Because again, like, as soon as you, whenever you have any kind of, you know, government or whatever like that, there are hierarchies and stuff like that and corruption and stuff like that. And so if I'm gonna have my own dream world, it's gonna be the- But in your dream world, doesn't that hierarchy form anyway? Like, hierarchies and stuff like that and corruption and stuff like that and so if i'm gonna have my own dream world it's gonna be the uh but in your dream world doesn't that hierarchy form anyway like hierarchies form no matter what that's just part of nature oh this is a nice one i don't know this technique it's an alternative uh crane yeah your cranes are fat i don't understand
Starting point is 01:51:57 how you're making them i feed them too much they go to mcdonald's all the time and mine are thinner i don't know how you made this one it feels like it'll stand more well yours leans well it's nice yeah you can stand them up and then there's another way to make it so you can flap by pulling its tail but this one doesn't yes i have to do some more research i've been making cranes the same way since my art teacher had us do it for hours and hours in like the third grade i've never seen such an effective art class he was like here's this amazing story now if you make a thousand of these and that's all we did so why can't classes be like that now so you may you you may not understand you may not know this but um the reason why i can make this paper crane is because being part korean and japanese it is just cellular memory and when i was a child i could just do it but you'll also notice it's pretty
Starting point is 01:52:39 crappy and that's because i'm only five percent japanese so it's only five percent effective in my origami am i appropriating your culture right now well yours yours suck because you're white that's so true i'm not even taking that as a racial insult although i guess we're starting well i think because of how white you are to the ginginess makes you like the extreme white i think i think the rules of wokeness are i'm allowed to say that because you're appropriating my culture but but to be fair someone told me this is something i should be doing no let's be real like there's probably some you know middle-aged white dude who makes the best origami ever and he like builds castles and stuff like that all right we'll read some more super chats oh where are we at t-rex pet
Starting point is 01:53:20 shop says since ian bailed i guess i'll have to tell you guys that you forced my hand and telling you the special deal we're doing. You'll get a free dog or cat toy when you get $50 or more cat food, dog food, or cat litter. Hey, T-Rex Pet Shop. There you go. Hey, absolutely. What are the chances, right? Yours really just looks so much better than mine.
Starting point is 01:53:36 T-Rex Pet Shop, when Luke is from T-Rex, I'm just here. Daniel Smith says, my Anheuser delivery this week was two cases. Driver said, total deliveries this week was around 200 pieces, last week 100. Then Coors comes in with 30 cases and says their deliveries have doubled. Oh, wow. Oh, you'll love to see it. Oh, I should have bought stock then. Put options.
Starting point is 01:53:58 Put options. I wonder if Budstock is going to go down when the sales data comes in. Because we saw the first week, a week later than last week so like next week we're going to get the sales data from the previous week and i'm wondering it's going to be like well i'm saying i should have bought stock in the all the other companies that were going to get more business oh yeah not not them but no like no put options yeah you you you short their stock so you bet yeah yeah i'm not gonna buy any of that stock and i. Hell yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to buy any of that stock and I'm not giving
Starting point is 01:54:26 anybody financial advice. I'm not telling them to actually do anything. Please don't. Please don't. But I think I can tell people to do things right. This isn't your show.
Starting point is 01:54:33 Yeah, you're going to get the, they'll sue you. Oh man. So what are you drinking instead? Like did anybody drink Bud Light and have to like have a crisis
Starting point is 01:54:42 and figure out what the next thing was? I drink like four times a year so I don't have to worry about it. It's great. I haven't needed a drink since 2018 or something like that. Saves so much money.
Starting point is 01:54:49 Yeah. Serge, any thoughts on this one? No Bud Light for you? Not really. I'm just sad Modelo's gone because I did like Modelo. Modelo's good. That's about it. William H. says, I've truly enjoyed Steven's content over the years, but I just can't come
Starting point is 01:55:01 back from what I heard coming from his mouth directed at his pregnant wife. Godspeed, Crowder. I hope you learn from this. Hopefully he wouldn't have said it even if she wasn't pregnant. And so that was basically, I was seeing a bunch of comments from people and I'm like, alright, I'll pull the story up. We'll talk about it. But now you can say you did. You don't have to do it tomorrow. Yeah, I mean
Starting point is 01:55:17 we probably will because the story's going to get crazier. Crowder's probably going to address it. I do think there is a merit to talking about chaotic relationships and being accountable for the way you speak and address people. I think especially in is probably gonna address it and then i do think there is a merit to talking about uh chaotic relationships and being accountable for the way you speak and address people i think especially in like i don't want to stereotype too much but like conservative male circles like it's not a conversation that's easy to have but it's important that people are aware of their behavior and unfortunately i didn't like i wouldn't want it to be this venue but well and it would have never
Starting point is 01:55:41 come up if it had never been public and so it wouldn't have been talked about anyway. So it's like, it was kind of made public and then all right. It has to be talked about. Curtis Terry says, Phil, big fan of your cover of thunder rolls, but was kind of disappointed. You didn't cover the third verse.
Starting point is 01:55:54 Any reason why the third verse is not in the official release. So we didn't do that. We do that live. Like if we do like, we'll do an acoustic, we'll do a, the third verse. If we play it live,
Starting point is 01:56:03 but on the record, we decided to do the record release that Garth actually did so that's why will you cover uh barbie girl uh i know why not uh i feel like it'd be fun to see i mean when when you finish watching fast and the furious there is so much pressure to watch this movie series i don't like it get on it i gotta read this one uh this one streaming service david violet says i usually only donate two dollars but a gun tuber gets five dollars invite lucas's dad garan thumb he's not my dad but that's a good name that's a good name yeah i'd like to be stuck with it now yeah forever when i got the m1a the first thing they did was explain to me the thumb thing and i
Starting point is 01:56:45 was like oh yeah yeah that's funny he's a good dude you get your thumb stuck in it that's what yeah mike smith he's and i like the fact that he's like he's he's really funny too he's extremely comical he's honestly more fun to hang out with in person than on the internet i want to meet him jack opp says hey uh hates him i'm a bartender in sd is that san diego or south dakota south dakota south dakota well i work at a bigger casino i haven't moved bud light in almost two weeks it's been an interesting sight to see that's definitely south dakota you think yep 100 i find it fascinating because there's there's a lot of uh casinos up there because of uh reservations and then uh but california's got a couple don't they uh
Starting point is 01:57:25 no i wouldn't imagine in san diego yeah yeah not san diego i think it's i think uh yeah i don't know what casinos they have i think it's south dakota that we played all they have um what you call it when you go out to palm springs or whatever it is springs does yeah the uh the native american one i've been there before right native america casino that's palm springs not san diego no i know yeah it's far away but i'm just saying like in california The Native American one. I've been there before. Right. Native American casino. That's Palm Springs, not San Diego. No, I know. Yeah, it's far away. But I'm just saying, like in California, they have them, so I wonder if there's anything down there.
Starting point is 01:57:51 What have we with Spork, which says gun control is and has never been about guns. It has always been about control. Yes. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. No discussion there. Bray Kane says gun customization is the best part of video games. A street sweeper shotgun with 12- 12 gauge flesh it flechette is that you say yep yeah it's fun uh have you played um
Starting point is 01:58:10 uh the division uh the first one long time ago yeah i liked it and like all the guns are real guns yeah they actually use the names right like other companies were like oh we'll get sued yeah yeah i thought it was fun you know you and it shows you like a like a model of the gun when you're in your inventory and stuff that's the one where you're in in uh dc right that's part two the first one well i think in part two they go back to new york eventually okay but uh i thought it was a great game it could have been so much better but it was pretty good yeah you're in new york the pandemic wipes out the world yeah yeah and then you're in time square and stuff and it was it was really weird playing the game with people who weren't from new york having lived in new york and playing it and it's
Starting point is 01:58:47 like it's kind of weird yeah was it modeled i'm assuming they modeled it like one for one like the actual street it wasn't one for i mean yes but like still smaller yeah so when you go to like uh 30 rock it's a smaller plaza so they did they change the spaces between each landmark so you can kind of get to them faster i think so pick up a section of this i'm not entirely sure it's a big map yeah yeah it was it was huge yeah and then i played part two and then that was in dc and uh the weirdest thing i've ever experienced was the first time i went to dc i've been playing fallout 3 for a long time and so i go to dc and i'm like oh i know where everything is chevy chase what yeah i go into the subway and i'm like i know exactly where i am it's like dude over here yeah yeah and i'm like
Starting point is 01:59:31 follow me i know where i'm going and they're like have you been here before like no i just played fallout 3 crazy that's crazy man the future is gonna be weird these games are wild man they really are let's grab some more super chats infernal saxon says car mufflers are unregistered suppressors so why okay it's a philosophical question we're not going to talk about tiffany garrison says hey tim i made you a crochet roberto jr dressed like you and i want to send him to you me and my honey love the show do we still have the po box up not on the website it's not no are you sure i didn't think it was but then we are on pop culture crisis and ian said it was it's on yeah if you go if you go to timcast.com contact us the po box is there for sending things
Starting point is 02:00:17 we typically don't accept a lot of things anymore because of security issues but that's how you do it so So that'd be really cool. Also, I guess the Rise with Roberto Jr. Breakfast Blend has been selling like hotcakes. It's because Roberto Jr., it's his thing, right? So I think what we're going to be launching is Mr. Bocas' Pumpkin Spice
Starting point is 02:00:37 Experience. Is the Bocas one. And it's going to be a year-round pumpkin spice availability because we figured that this fake seasonal pumpkin spice thing we can do away with it's like you can only get pumpkin spice in november and you know get out of here starbucks well that didn't even make sense i remember i went in and then i was like i want the pumpkin spice cold brew like we just got rid of that i'm like why it's like ginger and nutmeg come on dude hook it up and then so we're gonna launch our own mr bocusocas' pumpkin spice experience.
Starting point is 02:01:07 That sounds great. I wanted it to be Professor Bocas. But you've been calling him Mr. Bocas for so long, I didn't realize he'd gotten his tenure. You know what I mean? Or Captain. Yeah. Captain Bocas. I didn't realize he was enlisted.
Starting point is 02:01:20 You know, we need other steps in his life. I guess we'll do Mr. Bocas. I think it's a good idea to have a pumpkin pumpkin pumpkin spice honestly and it'll be available year round yeah yeah yeah we're just gonna have it stocked so i will tell you there are challenges to this and we're probably gonna have to hire someone to basically run cast brew specifically because right now we're just kind of running on the side allison takes care of most of it but um maintaining stock it's not like yeah let me just tell you guys and most of you probably know this but some of you may not realize we watch the orders the product leaves the shelf
Starting point is 02:01:50 there's actual it's it's not like they make it we we have to make it per order so it's you know so we will make a small batch sell a bunch and then we have to constantly have this this this flow of ordering a bunch more not ordering too much not making too much and we want it's going to be fresh for everybody when they get it that means shipping times will vary you know so anyway it's not like you're storing like blocks of wood like that stuff exactly go bad yeah so it's it's it's like right now we are beginning to produce the next batch yeah because we have been selling like hotcakes so everybody smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends head over to timcast.com click join us become a member hang out in our discord server members
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