Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #775 Tucker Carlson ANNOUNCES NEW SHOW On Twitter After Elon Musk Meeting w/Michael Heise

Episode Date: May 10, 2023

Tim, Phil, Seamus, & Serge join Michael Heise & Ben Stewart to discuss Tucker Carlson announcing his show will return on Twitter, Tucker's firing being apart of FOX's settlement with Dominion, BBC New...s accusing Tim Pool of spreading misinformation about the Allen, TX shooting, & Donald Trump being ordered to pay $5 Million in a sexual battery case. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:31 Download the BetMGM Ontario app today. You don't want to miss out. Visit BetMGM.com for terms and conditions. 19 plus to wager, Ontario only. Please gamble responsibly. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact Connex Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Tucker Carlson is back! He put up a video on Twitter saying that he'll be launching a new show on Twitter. The news comes after it was reported that Tucker Carlson met with Elon Musk. Now, the
Starting point is 00:01:09 interpretation for most people was that they came to some kind of accord. But Elon Musk came out and said there's no deal. Tucker is just going to do a show on Twitter. But we will see. It feels like what they're really saying is they have not signed anything. And this could be for legal reasons due to Tucker's current contract with Fox News. But it does seem like Tucker and Elon have a plan of sorts. So this is big, interesting stuff. But there's more news on the Tucker front. Apparently, it's being reported, he was fired as part of the Dominion settlement. As if to imply that Dominion was like, okay, we'll settle, but you got to fire Tucker Carlson.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Which is very, very strange, to say the least. So we'll talk about that, plus a whole bunch of other stories. My friends, before we get started, head over to castbrew.com to pick up your cast brew coffee. I don't have the bag with me today because we were actually drinking it this morning, but you can pick up one of four special blends, Rise with Roberto Jr., Appalachian Nights, and then we have a Colombian and a French roast. Supporting the show, if you buy from Casper, you're supporting the show because we're sponsoring ourselves. We're trying to get away from being beholden to corporate sponsors as it pertains to generating revenue.
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Starting point is 00:02:45 10 10 p.m eastern we will have one of those shows for you tonight and as a member you can join our discord server hang out with like-minded individuals and actually submit questions to our show and even call into our show for the members only uncensored so smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Michael Heiss. Thanks for having me, Tim. Who are you, sir? Well, as you said, Michael Heiss. I am the founder and chair of the Libertarian Party Mises Caucus. We're a group of rabble-rousers, libertarians, and kind of the Ron Paul,
Starting point is 00:03:18 Dave Smith, Tom Woods tradition. And after a long fight, we took over the Libertarian Party last year to make it more base. Proud to say that we might be the only institution in the entire country that de-woke-ified, where the Libertarian Party kind of went woke. And a lot of people were disappointed with that. Well, we came in here to reverse course, and we made that happen last year. And now we're launching all of our kind of plans and our political strategies. And anybody who's looked at the Libertarian Party can tell that something serious has changed with the messaging. Looking forward to that presidential announcement coming soon. I think we all are.
Starting point is 00:03:51 We'll see what happens. We also have Ben Stewart hanging out. That's right. Ben Stewart, documentary filmmaker. You can go to benjosephstewart.com. I usually talk about things like consciousness and psychedelics, but I think I skipped timelines, and now I'm talking about the Federal Reserve.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Yeah, we've got that. It's our second documentary. Well, we have two documentaries. We have Infringed, and now I'm talking about the Federal Reserve. Yeah, we've got that. It's our second documentary. Well, we have two documentaries. We have Infringed and then we have yours on the Federal Reserve, both of which will be coming out soon. Excited for that. Thanks for hanging out, Ben. Seamus is here. My name is Seamus. I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes where we release an animated cartoon twice a week.
Starting point is 00:04:19 We just released one today that I think you guys will really, really enjoy. The fans seem to be loving it. If you all want to go check that out. And I also have a podcast on Rumble, which is called Shamer. We released an episode of that today as well. Right on. Hello, everybody.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I'm Phil Abonte, lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. And? I am Serge.com. I'm ready to go when you guys are let's get it here's the first big news from timcast.com we're back tucker carlson to stream new show through twitter saying the news you consume is a lie you are being manipulated you know what how about we just play the actual clip from tucker himself here we go hey it's it's Tucker Carlson. You often hear people say the news is full of lies, but most of the time that's not exactly right. Much of what you see on television
Starting point is 00:05:10 or read the New York Times is in fact true in the literal sense. It could pass one of the media's own fact checks. Lawyers would be willing to sign off on it. In fact, they may have, but that doesn't make it true. It's not true. At the most basic level, the news you consume is a lie, a lie of the stealthiest and most insidious kind. Facts have been withheld on purpose along with proportion and perspective. You are being manipulated. How does that work? Let's see. If I tell you that a man has been unjustly arrested for armed robbery, that is not strictly speaking a lie. He may have been framed.
Starting point is 00:05:47 At this point, there's been no trial, so no one can really say. But if I don't mention the fact that the same man has been arrested for the same crime six times before, am I really informing you? No, I'm not. I'm misleading you. And that's what the news media are doing in every story that matters,
Starting point is 00:06:03 every day of the week, every week of the year. What's it like to work in a system like that? After more than 30 years in the middle of it, we could tell you stories. The best you can hope for in the news business at this point is the freedom to tell the fullest truth that you can. But there are always limits. And you know that if you bump up against those limits often enough, you will be fired for it. That's not a guess. It's guaranteed. Every person who works in English language media understands that. The rule of what you can't say defines everything. It's filthy, really,
Starting point is 00:06:38 and it's utterly corrupting. You can't have a free society if people aren't allowed to say what they think is true. Speech is the fundamental prerequisite for democracy. That's why it's enshrined in the first of our constitutional amendments. Amazingly, as of tonight, there aren't many platforms left that allow free speech. The last big one remaining in the world, the only one, is Twitter, where we are now. Twitter has long served as the place where our national conversation incubates and develops. Twitter is not a partisan site. Everybody's allowed here, and we think that's a good thing. And yet, for the most part, the news that you see analyzed on Twitter comes from media organizations that are themselves thinly disguised propaganda outlets.
Starting point is 00:07:23 You see it on cable news, you talk about it on Twitter. The result may feel like a debate, but actually the gatekeepers are still in charge. We think that's a bad system. We know exactly how it works and we're sick of it. Starting soon, we'll be bringing a new version of the show we've been doing for the last six and a half years to Twitter. We bring some other things too, which we'll tell you about. But for now, we're just grateful to be here. Free speech is the main right that you have. Without it, you have no others. See you soon. So Elon Musk responded to all the news saying, on this platform, unlike the one-way street of broadcast, people are able to interact, critique, and refute whatever is said. And of course, anything misleading will get community notes. I also want to be clear that
Starting point is 00:08:08 we have not signed a deal of any kind whatsoever. Tucker is subject to the same rules and rewards of all content creators. Rewards mean subscriptions and advertising revenue share coming soon, which is a function of how many people subscribe and the advertising views associated with content. I hope that many others, particularly from the left, also choose to be the content creators on this platform. Now, I see what Elon's got going on here. We have not signed a deal of any kind whatsoever. That does not mean they did not shake hands and come to an agreement
Starting point is 00:08:37 because we had this story from Forbes, Elon Musk talking with Tucker Carlson about working together. I don't believe that Tucker Carlson would walk away from launching his own network and making 100 million plus per year on subscriptions unless there was some kind of deal in place be it verbal not a contractual agreement i imagine that there is probably some kind of deal in that as they said there's going to be the subscriptions and stuff
Starting point is 00:09:03 like that and i imagine that el Elon essentially went to Tucker and said, look, the money's there, blah, blah, blah. We'll, we'll make sure that you get the reach.
Starting point is 00:09:13 You have this many, et cetera. This is how it'll work with the way that we're thinking. And so I can assure you that, you know, give you my word that this will, will be an, and it may be just a handshake deal,
Starting point is 00:09:24 like you said. But it doesn't see, I don't see, you know, you my word that this will will be and it may be just a handshake deal like you said um but it doesn't see i don't see you know i don't think that that he'll have a problem coming up with money he's the the i just think that there's no reason for anyone to do a show on twitter unless elon makes a guarantee you like youtube subsidizes content yeah i think but the thing is i think that there's a lot of people i think there's more people that are like you that the money isn't you know the issue like tucker doesn't i was saying talking about this uh with michael downstairs the the money like tucker's already rich he's already gonna make you know never gonna have to worry about money in his life so i just feel like he's looking for reach and for probably security.
Starting point is 00:10:06 And I think that the money is a secondary thing. I mean, it's not like you care about it. I agree. But I mean, money is secondary. You want to do something good. You want to say what you have to say and you want people to see it. But money is like the oil for the machine. Fair.
Starting point is 00:10:20 So I don't think Tucker's going to want to look at his net worth, his bank account, his assets, and be like, let's liquidate this property so that I can do a show. He's probably going to be like, how can I fund a show? How can I make money? That being said, it may be that Elon simply went to Tucker and said, you do your show on Twitter. We absorb all of the costs of broadcast, hosting, server, and everything. And so Tucker might be thinking about it like, okay, we'll do subscriptions. We'll make money on Twitter that way.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Elon says they only take 10%. So what am I really losing? And they're going to cover all the hosting costs. Done. I just imagine that there's plenty of money to be made and plenty of avenues for him to make money. And that essentially the teaming up of the two kind of biggest free speech names going really puts pressure on all of the other media. Like this is the most, this is going to be the most pressure that all of the other media
Starting point is 00:11:13 outlets have probably ever experienced. It could be paradigm shifting. I mean, one, we don't know what the restrictions that Tucker has on him that would maybe prevent him from discussing the money and revenues from this sort of content. But, you know, look at what happened with Musk himself. He put a portion of his fortune up to try to do something good with Twitter because he saw, you know, what was going on with the collusion and the lack of free speech on Twitter. So if we're lucky, we're going to get something similar with Tucker himself where, you know, maybe what Elon is doing with Twitter,
Starting point is 00:11:47 they are now trying to do to YouTube and kind of create a new paradigm in the content creator hub. Yeah. I mean, I feel like that's what I feel like this is more about the, the. Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer. From roulette to blackjack, watch as a dealer hosts your table game and live chat with them throughout your experience to feel like you're actually at the casino.
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Starting point is 00:12:58 then it is about him being concerned about monetary, you know, how much money he's going to make. Because again, it's already rich. And these guys are the dudes that are out there carrying the torch for actual liberalism in an age when you've got so many progressives that are really authoritarian and really, really strongly looking to, you know, censor speech and say, this is outside of the realm of acceptable conversation. The opportunity right now is for anybody who wants to launch a show needs to launch it on twitter right now 100 because what's going to happen is within the next year elon is going to be looking at
Starting point is 00:13:33 propping up whatever shows and content they have and what elon's not going to want to do is start trying to poach outside content because it's very difficult i would love to have timcast irl live every day on Twitter. I've got 1.6 million followers. It would be fantastic. I think we get tremendous reach. It's just difficult to do. And I don't know what the upside is other than just general reach. It's an investment, I understand, but it's kind of out of sight, out of mind. If we invested in multi-streaming, did the show on Twitter, did a live stream or whatever, because they have that capability, I don't know what we would get out of it.
Starting point is 00:14:07 So Elon, let's say he comes to us and he's like, we want you on, on, on, on Twitter. I'd be like, okay, here's what we need to cover the costs of that hiring somebody to do it, et cetera, et cetera. If somebody just launches a show on Twitter right now, when Elon is looking for content to put in the suggested feed, it will be you. So that's how it always works. When YouTube first started, there were people who made no money and just did it. And then when YouTube started expanding, they promoted those people. Those people became rich and famous. So I don't know, man. Tucker doesn't need it. I'm wondering what the conversation was. Let me pull up what Forbes had to say. Forbes said that Elon Musk has been talking with former fox news host tucker carlson about possibly working together according to a new report from
Starting point is 00:14:48 axios the news comes after carlson was abruptly pulled off the air by fox blah blah blah they said that axios had learned that carlson and elon musk had a conversation about working together but didn't discuss specifics i don't know i don't know where we go. I think it's about who Tucker is as well. It's a big signpost who Tucker is and him coming here. It's definitely him, his face, and a new turning point for Twitter. So that's a pretty cool convergence right there. But is this going to drive the left off of Twitter into places like Blue Sky or Mastodon or something? Because they're already attacking Twitter for, oh, you're going to host Tucker. They're already attacking twitter for oh you're gonna host tucker you're already taking twitter saying you're gonna host uh tucker carlson it is interesting he even he even says that i hope that many others particularly on the left will make some content
Starting point is 00:15:35 look man elon's late to the party i'm glad he's at the party but he's late to the party he posts that meme of you know the person the the the left moving further and further left and then makes that makes a moderate right wing and it's like bro that was 10 years ago that happened 10 years ago and you got to the party like two years ago we're we're all so early though tim like we're like people that are plugged in are extremely early and and normies are just catching wind of this and i think that you know the know, the whole COVID thing is, I mean, I don't want to, I'm a little hesitant to say this, but one of the, actually I'll say it like this. One of the benefits, one of the silver linings of COVID was it woke people up to the control of the narrative from the left and from the government.
Starting point is 00:16:25 And it made people realize that the government was really interested in censoring and really interested in controlling what is and isn't allowed to be said. So I understand your frustration. I just feel like this is- I'm not frustrated. Well, I mean, I understand your point,
Starting point is 00:16:39 but I just think that this is really, we're so ahead of the curve. I'm just saying, it's wishful thinking. Elon, I think, doesn't understand. He understands a little bit, but he's new to this. The left is a cult. Yes. We had Lance from the Serfs on this show who admitted, I asked him, okay, earmuffs for
Starting point is 00:17:03 your kids. I'll keep it family friendly to the best of my abilities. I said, if you went into MGM National Harbor, you know, it's just south of DC. It's this big shopping center casino and loudly proclaimed what you previously said. And what did he say? Let's just put it this way. He claimed that if a straight male, or I'm sorry, that if a male engaged in adult activities with a biological male who was trans, it wasn't in fact gay. He said it in a different way. Much more graphic. Much more graphic description. And I said, if you ask the average person, would they agree with you? He said, no, of course not. I'm like, you're in a cult. If you believe so strongly in this worldview and you know no one agrees with you at all like the majority of the world you are the odd person out you are on the wrong side of history and so with that being said i think elon doesn't understand the extent to which the left is in a cult and unwilling to engage
Starting point is 00:17:56 and willing to burn things down for their cult well i mean there's definitely truth in that i'll also add this though i think there is some fear that people are expressing here about the potential for left were able to get away with censoring conservatives for so long is because they weren't all that afraid of like sort of a small contingent of conservatives really far to the right leaving. And so I think based on those same market principles, there's not that much of a risk of people on the left leaving. Well, I don't care if they leave. I'm not saying that they should stay. I think this is a good thing because I think here's what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:18:43 My point is I don't— Taking Twitter was one of the most powerful things you could do in the culture war elon musk nailed that yeah because it's like it's like you're saying the left dominates the space and so default liberals fall in line yeah but now with the left fleeing it's actually a good thing because that means the popular accounts the big accounts the accounts that people want to aspire to be like are going to be more moderate to right-leaning and that means regular people who are on the platform are going to see more of that exactly okay i just want to mention one more thing twitter does lean to the left but it's not you know like tumblr was where it's just overwhelmingly left-leaning and anyone who goes there can sniff that out
Starting point is 00:19:19 immediately and disregard most of what they're seeing. It's deceptive because it almost seems more moderate, even though traditionally the user base has been more left-wing, but that's been part of why it's been so powerful as a tool for framing the narrative on the part of the left. People get the feeling it's unbiased when it is really center-left.
Starting point is 00:19:39 But you were- I was going to say, I think there is something to be said about maintaining the olive branch to people who are reasonable and sending the incentives against the unreasonable people. We want them to leave so that we can have legitimate conversation. But then, you know, you've got people out there like RFK Jr. He's on the left. And I think, you know, he's got some good ideas and he seems like somebody who doesn't hate us.
Starting point is 00:19:58 You know, I don't agree with him on gun control and stuff like that, but he seems like somebody who doesn't hate us. You know, you've had destiny on this show. He's at least willing to engage. I don't agree with him on everything, but he's at least willing to engage and have the conversation. You've got the Jimmy Doors of the world, and you've got the walk away movement where there is some level of disgust with the cult mentality and all of that. So
Starting point is 00:20:18 I think there's something to be said about the Oliver. The people you're naming are people who agree on facts. Jimmy Doore, he's a social, I think he's a self-proclaimed socialist, but he's like, here's what the news said and here's what we fact-checked and here's what we found out to be true. He can bring that to us and we say, yes,
Starting point is 00:20:34 you are correct. We've analyzed the facts and we agree on the facts. Then our opinions differ and we're like, well, that's okay. All of our opinions differ. You get someone like Destiny who comes out and says Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self-defense and the left comes after him. He may be a liberal, but he's like, hey, this I watch it. I'm not going to lie. This is what happened. And then the cult are the people who are just outright lying.
Starting point is 00:20:54 They will say whatever, whatever, whatever needs to be said, even if it doesn't make sense. For instance, you might have some left to say something like a woman should be allowed to abort her child at any point. It's part of her body, but she shouldn't be allowed to do meth because that would intentionally kill the baby which is just confusing because it's contradictory in in in in itself so that to me is a cult member yeah i think without the olive branch to reasonable people you run the risk of doing the same thing that's done that's done to to the right where like you know that meme where um like the guys pushed from the left and and yeah um you know yeah and they're like oh yeah are you okay why are you associating with the right i think if we don't have that and it's got to be more
Starting point is 00:21:34 less about ideas or or even political philosophy more about character you know and people who are just reasonable there's a i think there's a lot of substance to that because one of the things that I've experienced is just in my life, it has happened to be that when I interact with, with people in the left, I have felt like they're exclusionary. And this is, again,
Starting point is 00:21:55 this is, this is anecdotal. I know I understand, I understand that. But like, if you don't, if you're not welcoming, you're not going to get anybody on your side like when all that
Starting point is 00:22:06 remains got our start the blogs that were giving me the most crap were the ones that were on the left so like i'm not going to feel any kind of sympathetic you know any kind of sympathy towards people that are on the left when all the people that are attacking me are from the left you know you have to leave the door open and there's going to be a left wing yes like no matter what like unless you can somehow like obliterate the the connection between personality type and political association there is going to be a left wing and i think you want to promote a left wing that yeah is jimmy dore left wing if you ask the quote-unquote left they'll say no he's far right that's insane yes and that's where we're at. So right now in this country, there are actual left and actual right who are friends and having good conversations and trying to move things forward.
Starting point is 00:22:52 And that would be like the Jimmy Dore and the Tucker Carlson having that conversation. But what we refer to now as left and right isn't even political. It's cult and not cult. Yeah. And Jimmy Dore is probably the best example of that. And then to a lesser degree, someone like me, moderate centrists they call right wing well the left will make arguments like yeah but look at this he voted for trump i'm like yeah i did vote for trump jimmy door does not like donald trump but they still call right wing that is that is insane
Starting point is 00:23:17 you voted for trump and like 15 years ago trump was a democrat that's right people on the right would have said he's on the left. That's their argument. The argument from the left is when people say, I'm a regular, I'm just a regular person from 10 years ago, they say, that's what conservative means. They were like, the argument the left makes is, if someone from 1950 in 1970 said, you know, I'm not a conservative,
Starting point is 00:23:42 I'm just a regular person from 15 years ago, they would say, yeah, before civil rights. Like, yes. So you are right wing. You are conservative because you're not with the times or whatever. The difference today is left and right in the sense of our politics, cultural, traditional versus economic, you know, communal systems or capital systems mean absolutely nothing jimmy dora socialist is right wing you can you can deviate from leftist economic policy but you can't deviate from social cult policy even if it doesn't make sense like when that dude said you know you can take meth or you can't a woman can't take meth because it'll kill the baby but you can't kill the baby yeah like that just it literally makes no sense as long as he is saying words that align
Starting point is 00:24:27 with the quote-unquote left the cult then you're left that's it even even i think the funny thing about the whole debate is seamus is over here as he often is as the pro-life guy he's not even saying anything and me the traditional pro-choice guy arguing with the pro-abortion guy and he's calling me pro-life right wing well forced birther and i part of it was i didn't it's so stupid i didn't want to dog pile him but there were one or two moments i mean there were a few moments where he said things that were blatantly factually incorrect but then when he was saying things that were blatantly factually incorrect related to health care for children and trying to justify mutilation i had to jump in i mean but i needed to correct the nonsense he was saying,
Starting point is 00:25:06 but yeah, part of why I was remaining quiet. It wasn't because I was like, Oh man, like obviously, you know, I believe this is an incredibly important issue. It's incredibly important to me,
Starting point is 00:25:14 but I thought they're having the discussion and it would be in bad taste. If this was a jumping, I'm not trying to rehash that episode. I'm just trying to point out that I'm clearly at odds with you on a lot of these issues as someone who's like moderate, slightly left-leaning on the issue. But to their perspective, he's equating you and I together, despite the fact that we disagree. Which is a huge compliment for you. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:36 Yes, yes, of course. But let's jump to this next story, because this one's pretty shocking. We have this from the Postmillennial. Carlson was told by a member of the Fox board that he was taken off the air as part of the Dominion settlement per Tucker's legal team. Two people briefed in the conversation told Axios that Carlson had been told by a Fox board member that he was taken off the air abruptly last month as part of a settlement with Dominion voting systems. The $787 million settlement, million dollar settlement for each of the two parties came less than a week after it was
Starting point is 00:26:03 revealed Carlson was off the air. In a from carlson's lawyers to fox news they argue that carlson's non-compete clause in his contract which runs through 2025 is no longer valid alleging fox employees including robert murdoch himself broke promises to carlson intentionally and with reckless disregard for the truth the lawyers accused fox executives with two uh which two sources told axios are are Viet Dinh and Murdoch, of making material misrepresentations or promises to Carlson that was intentionally broken, constituting fraud. The revelation comes as Tucker Carlson has launched a new show on Twitter. So this is kind of crazy. The reporting that Dominion basically told Fox, you've got to fire Tucker Carlson.
Starting point is 00:26:46 And then why would they do it? Let's break this down. You got to fire Tucker Carlson and almost a billion dollars. But consider this. I do a contract with somebody. They can't abruptly fire me without cause. Contracts will have terms. And if you do your contract right, it gives you some protections.
Starting point is 00:27:03 So I've done contracts before with networks, and they've all said, if you terminate the show, remove him, or in any way inhibit his work, it will constitute a breach of contract, and a party will be responsible for paying out the full amount of the contract therein or whatever. So if you do a contract for a million bucks over three years, and then six months in, they say, your show's off the air, you know, therein or whatever. So if you do a contract for a million bucks over three years, and then six months in, they say, your show's off the air, you gotta pay me the million bucks right now. That is the contract agreement. And so
Starting point is 00:27:32 typically they don't like to do that. To break this contract with Tucker Carlson implies Dominion was going after more money. So basically the cost-benefit analysis comes in and Fox News says, how much money will we lose if we defy dominion? Is it going to be another hundred, 200, 300 million? How much do
Starting point is 00:27:50 we lose if Tucker sues us? Fire Tucker. By the way, I could be mistaken here, but if I'm correct, Tucker wasn't really blaming dominion for the election outcomes. No, he was denying. He was, this is the crazy thing about it tucker is the guy who said to sydney powell come on my show and i'll give you all the time in the world to prove your claims where's the evidence and he got attacked by trump supporters for it so why would dominion want him out i don't know because maybe the people who work at dominion are just cult members and they're like here's our opportunity to strike at the heart of fox news well and then they would lump out they would lump all dissident conservatives in under the category of election denial or whatever whatever label they're using
Starting point is 00:28:29 no let me let me ask you guys this question why won't the left go after hennedy why why is tucker carlson the target despite the fact that tucker carlson overlaps with the left on a ton of issues because he's moving the overton window populism yep economic populism anti-war yet they attack him exclusively he's the closest to anti-government like sean hannity is is not anti-government at any you know by any stretch of the imagination he'll talk about small government but sean hannity is the as typical of a republican that as as you can probably get. Tucker Carlson, for all the fact that he used to be a Democrat back in the day, and I'm sure that he's comfortable with a fairly large government too,
Starting point is 00:29:17 he's still anti-establishment. So even if he would want a big government, he doesn't want the type of big government that we have now. So I imagine that's why he gets the heat that he does. Didn't Tucker Carlson recently call himself a liberal? I mean, he did support Ron Paul when he was running. Oh, yeah, yeah. And I think when he says liberal, he means like liberal in the sense of classical.
Starting point is 00:29:39 And I would say Hannity is part of the conservative ink cult. Yes. And so at some point, you know, the cults all do their own thing, but don't come after each other. It's the people who step outside of the cult, outside of the three-by-five, the allowable opinion that have to be taken out and have to be made out to be crazy. Shout out to Tom Woods for that three-by-five card. Yeah, absolutely. How did he support Ron Paul? I think he openly, vocally did.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And I'm pretty sure, if I remember correctly, when Ron Paul spoke at his counter event to the GOP National Convention that Tucker Carlson spoke there. Don't quote me on that, but I think he did. But he was vocally in support of Ron Paul. Well, yeah. And I think they also want to go after someone who they perceive as weak because they're outside of one of those bubbles, right? When you're standing on your own and there aren't going to be as many people who have your back when they start running hit pieces on you, it's much easier to take you out.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I wonder how effective that will be now with, you know, with the largest communications platform, maybe? I don't know. That's the irony. He hasn't, like, evolved into his ultimate form, and now he has the room to do that. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely going to be extremely interesting
Starting point is 00:30:52 to see what does happen. I kind of smelled that he was going to go to Twitter. I'd been talking about it because Musk has made comments about when he bought Twitter, he was thinking, there's no place like we chat in the u.s so like we chat in in china you can pay for everything you can watch videos and etc and he when he bought twitter he was thinking oh i think that you know we should make twitter into something i think it's gonna work i think so too yeah yeah i'm thinking about uh there he's
Starting point is 00:31:20 already uh responded saying like twitter tv app or something like that, Twitter live app so that you can open your TV and watch Twitter videos. People are going to be producing video content. He's already got the subscriptions going. That's the first thing he has to do. People subscribe to content that generates revenue for the person, which gets them to use the platform more. It generates revenue for Twitter. It puts Patreon out of business. It's a big threat to Rumble as well considering he's allowing free speech.
Starting point is 00:31:46 But I'm really excited about Patreon imploding. Because there's no way you can compete. You've got your followers on Twitter already. Patreon is where you try to direct them. If they're already on Twitter, you can just be like, click that little button right there. Hey, you follow me? Click that button. Boom. You got a new
Starting point is 00:32:01 subscriber. So it's way easier to convert your existing fan base. Elon knew this. I think him going after Twitter to buy it in the first place, it had a lot more to do with just the, than just the Babylon Bee. People were talking about how this is actually an effective app for communicating over long distances, like sending messages from Mars, for instance.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Yeah, exactly. You post it and you let it go and then it appears when it appears. So I think Elon's got big plans. I'm just, I'm still waiting. I can't stand. You were saying he was kind of late for the party. He even admitted after OpenAI launched GPT-4, he's going to start training his own LLM.
Starting point is 00:32:39 He knows he's late to the party there. But there's something where there's all these pots in the fire that he's got going that I think either he has an idea of where they may converge in the future or he's just actually trying out a bunch of things and seeing what works. I'm excited to see what happens with Twitter.
Starting point is 00:32:58 But, you know, with this LLM thing. What's LLM? The large language models, like, you know, GPT. Right. So he's going to start training his own one. He said he's large language models, like GPT. Right. So he's going to start training his own one. He said he's going to call it Truth GPT, which
Starting point is 00:33:09 will basically just not have the biases and stuff like that in there. And he knows he's behind the curve, but if anyone behind the curve can do it, it's probably him. I've been using MidJourney a lot. You may have seen I posted a picture on Twitter, which I think is very important. Actually, I'm going to pull it up right now. think it is one of the most important images uh of this or
Starting point is 00:33:29 any generation let me uh let me just try and scroll down here and i think it's uh i think it's gonna be right here let me pull this one over there you go ladies and gentlemen the most important photo america's back baby uh for those are just listening it's a picture of donald trump and sonic the hedgehog running in washington dc for some reason and then i have this picture of donald trump shaking hands with sonic the hedgehog for some reason but i've been using uh mid journey and so it is interesting to see where we go like this photo of donald trump looks real i mean son of the hedgehog obviously does not look real he's not it's not a real thing but uh the photo of trump looks like it's actually trump running and we've already seen a bunch of photos of him getting arrested and things like
Starting point is 00:34:08 that it took me 10 seconds to do this i just typed it in as a bit donald trump running besides the hedgehog enter boom 30 seconds goes by and it just pops up on the screen the things are starting to get crazy i'm i'll i think it'll be i don't know i want to bring it up i think it'll be fascinating to see where these where this ai, especially if Elon Musk is getting involved, and especially if the Twitter firehose is plugged right into the language and learning model. It's going to create some kind of weird Borg structure, a hive mind of all of our thoughts.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Oh, my gosh. All of our thoughts from Twitter? That thing is going to be horrible. It's just going to be Pepe. It's going to be just like a big Pepe the Frog, it's like i am incarnate i am keck and we're gonna be like wow it happened the dark painting of the world as a filmmaker they have uh speech detects i follow the code report and you know a bunch of videos like that and it's just insane with the amount of plugins i was just watching something today that was saying, actually, it wasn't the open letter where people were saying we need to slow down AI.
Starting point is 00:35:08 It was another one saying that the ones who aren't doing it open source actually are having a big hindrance because all the open source ones seem to be evolving a lot faster. Have you heard of that video AI? That's like mid journey. You can type in walking through a forest during at the, at night and it will generate a video of walking through the forest. And I haven't seen that one. Yeah. It can do just speech to text or just speech to video. And it's only a couple seconds long, but just remember anyone listening, that's, that's the worst it's going to look. And it doesn't look that bad right now. I've seen the videos and it's, it's nuts. There's apps right now where you'll have people on their phones,
Starting point is 00:35:47 just filming themselves, like, you know, running through their house or something like that. And then within, with a few prompts and 10 seconds later, the whole landscape around turns into like, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:58 he's, he's now wearing Indiana Jones type stuff. And the place he's in is like an underground catacombs or something. This is actually why another good reason I think Twitter might end up being the place in terms of the internet. Because if it's a platform where people are just sharing ideas and Elon does get this stuff integrated, we're coming to the point where, look, man, I'm an artist. I made that picture of Elon, I'm sorry, donald trump and son of hedgehog running in washington
Starting point is 00:36:25 dc you had a beret on as you did it well you know if look if someone uses a paintbrush to make an image they're using a tool to do it we don't it's still their image now at the point where the the the canvas and the paintbrush is literally just an ai you tell it what to make you refine it it is your art and it feels a lot of people probably disagree but we're not going to be thinking that in 10 20 years people are going to be like that was so creative creative of you to make that movie they're gonna be like seamus that that feature-length film you made last night was incredible i enjoyed the whole thing thanks i enjoyed it too no problem i appreciate it but you're you're going to say you're all by myself actually they're gonna right right now check it out they have apps where you can animate images.
Starting point is 00:37:06 You can post a picture of a person and then type, send in text, or play an audio file, and it will sync the photo with the audio file. We've already seen the stuff where people are singing, right? We did the music video genocide where we had Taylor Loren singing our song. They have high-resolution versions of it. Someone used Midjourney to generate
Starting point is 00:37:23 a sci-fi- looking spaceship captain female. Then they wrote out with a text-to-speech program, a paragraph. They then took that audio file and put it in this program with the image and made her talk. That was like one plus two equals three. Imagine someone in a year having a program that's all of that instantly. And then once you have those things, all you got to do is type in a movie about a space captain leaving earth to go find a new colony but gets betrayed by the first mate and then aliens come and the first mate was working with aliens the whole time and then it will just render the whole movie like that it's crazy and it's all based upon the language models because there's a ton
Starting point is 00:38:02 of different ai models but then all of a sudden 2017 rolls around and the language models because there's a ton of different ai models but then all of a sudden 2017 rolls around and the language models start doing what the other models weren't able to do like language models can now do chemistry better than chemistry ai which is trained specifically for that um it's starting to progress where everyone who is in all these other camps of ai they're only focusing on one platform which means the progress is going to go that much faster let's let's jump to this next story ladies and gentlemen we have this tweet from bbc news world what wait what is this it says why some people some people what do you mean by some people my god are spreading false rumors about the texas government chamis what do mean, some people? I don't know exactly what they mean. Now, I'm
Starting point is 00:38:46 going to assume this is some kind of racist dog whistle, because that's what it sounds like. It is, and then they post this picture of me, right, and you know, it looks like they've darkened my skin. I just can't believe some people. Yeah, what is this? What does this mean? I do think it's
Starting point is 00:39:02 hilarious that they said some people, instead of just saying my name, why some people instead of just saying my name. Why some people are spreading false rumors. It's a picture of me. This is what's really insidious about this. They have some people that refers to a group and then Texas gunman, which refers to one person. So your brain goes to
Starting point is 00:39:18 the picture of the person there is the gunman. When I first saw this, I was like, is this like a meme or something that like lefties are trying to joke that tim is responsible for this and so they're posting no they literally posted your image actually saint claire said the same notice the same thing she tweeted about she said that she said that it was like disgusting that yeah i made that title because it does look like they're saying or implying that tim is the shooters
Starting point is 00:39:41 yeah no it seriously does look like that. It looks like that. It really does. And they definitely picked a picture that could somewhat closely look like a mugshot. Oh, wow. I think I might have to sue the BBC for doing that. If Tim made a Bob Deep album cover, it would be that picture. Yeah, that's a fair point
Starting point is 00:40:00 because saying some people is a reference to multiple people, but then saying singular Texas gunman and showing the image is to imply that was me. I think I might have to sue. BBC, I'm gonna sue you. You gotta change that. I'm gonna sue you. I'm telling you. Check it out, though. Here's what they say. Why some people are spreading false rumors
Starting point is 00:40:16 about the Texas gunman. This article is actually hilarious because it gives you a bunch of patter fluff nonsense in the beginning that means nothing, that there's no point in reading. It's just like there's a guy and he was shooting people blah blah what did the suspect post blah blah how do we know how do we know the account was his my favorite part the bbc has examined the material and we can be confident the suspect was the person behind the posts hey confidence is not confirmation so this is an opinion piece bbc well so hold on yeah why are they confident
Starting point is 00:40:44 be like where's their confidence coming from i know what their confidence is coming from it fits their narrative look at this look at this it says garcia appeared use the account uh as an online diary posted multiple documents including his name date of birth and other identifying details including a plane ticket a speeding ticket and an id card this is what we call in the business an orgy of evidence well i think we guys you guys get that reference when you walk into a crime scene and you see like all the documents laid out perfectly it's like oh boy i believe that wasn't that from seven where they talked about it no that was a minority report there you go they go into the room and there's all the photos of tom cruise's
Starting point is 00:41:17 kid and then uh colin farrell's like this is what we call an orgy of evidence it's it's not but it's not believable like you walk in and they're just like look here's the guy who did it i think it's it's it's almost like as absurd as if could you imagine if there's a story that was as crazy as to suggest that like maybe a plane crashed and then like a passport survived the fireball and landed on the ground thousands of people oh my gosh and the rubble yeah you can believe that yeah and then uh anyway it says uh despite the clear evidence the clear evidence yeah they do that evidence, that's an opinion right there. Several activists and internet personalities, including at least one mentioned in Garcia's post, have attempted to cast doubt on the authenticity of the material. They've claimed without evidence that it's part of a psychological operation or false flag by the government to smear those on the right or far right.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Well, I didn't say any of that later stuff false flag i did say psyop but psyop in in it could include corporations and private sector as well so you see how they they they expand upon it take what you say and then add context to it but i love how then they're just like at the bottom like a picture of me adding to the misinformation blah blah blah where, blah, what did they say? What is it? The podcaster Tim Pool, a former Occupy Wall Street supporter and Vice News reporter, was among those mentioned several times.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I got a message earlier today because USA Today also talked about me and they called me a former journalist. I'm like, oh, okay, sure, thanks. They're so threatened. There's no evidence that Garcia was inspired to action by Mr. Pooloole's podcasts, which cover right-wing talking points and
Starting point is 00:42:47 conspiracy theories. Oh my gosh. Mr. Poole immediately tried to cast doubt on the veracity of the material, accusing those digging up the material as being part of a psy-op. Yes, yes. BBC, your opinion piece is interesting to me, but please spare me your opinion piece and don't use my photo in the way you did.
Starting point is 00:43:04 But I would just like to point out, what do we have here? A couple weeks before this incident, someone started posting random photos from Reddit and posting four clips from TimCast IRL, a single episode, and making a post about libs of TikTok to no followers, to nobody. For what reason a a mexican neo-nazi inspired by a a jewish woman and a mixed race korean guy is is what what are they trying to imply here and the nazi stuff i just think is the most absurd considering they're like libs of tiktok is great it's like higher right chick is jewish he could be the stupidest thing i've ever heard and so anyway that's the story
Starting point is 00:43:46 and then i go that sounds like bs oh but bbc better write up a whole article about it and put his picture in it well thanks for that bbc appreciate it the uh existence of the cia at all means that all conspiracy theories are at least plausible period if it exists like how many times has there been you know covert operations that have have come to light that the cia was in involved in coin uh uh cointelpro uh what was it called so this is this is bellingcat that uh uncovered this uh this this profile how like the serious question a bellingcat researcher just so happened to be browsing russian social media underground russian social media
Starting point is 00:44:31 and found a profile with no followers come on dude and it's the same guy that connected the um new york times with the uh the uh ukraine it's information laundering what they do is they bellingcat can write whatever they want and then say oh look at this this is interesting then the media writes it up and they can't be sued that's how it works and bellingcat's a non-profit which is very very difficult to get money out of so in my humble opinion i believe at the very least the bellingcat people are so bad at their jobs they genuinely believe random garbage on the internet. Let me tell you how easy it is. Make a profile. Make ten profiles. Post a series
Starting point is 00:45:10 of images about a specific individual you want to smear. So, right now, someone could go on a Russian website and make a profile where they post a bunch of pictures of Hasidic Jewish Nazis. Seemingly making no sense. No pictures of faces or anything like that. They can then write
Starting point is 00:45:25 posts and then wait and then as soon as something happens they can take the picture of the individual upload it as the profile picture then add demographic information birth date location and the bbc will be like well the birth date matches that proves it even though they made the profile in advance and i'm not saying it's a government having to do it and i'm not saying that it's an intelligent intelligence agency i'm saying literally any activist can do this right now any random person sitting in their mom's basement can do this right now so for you to be like we're confident it's it's it's actually the account is just nonsense again these are the people who believe jesse smallett right right the people believe j smollett yeah well you don't i know the bad guys and i'm
Starting point is 00:46:05 just saying look like it's just i think if you did have a lunatic who had posted a couple clips from tim's show obviously it goes without saying that that doesn't make tim it all culpable for the behavior of that the guy wasn't even subscribed so yeah the clips show he wasn't even subscribed to the channel wow right well he's a fan like he wasn't even subscribed to the channel. Wow. Right. Wow. It's like he's a fan. He wasn't even subscribed. It was four clips from one show. But yeah, so my point is this is grasping at straws, right? Because even if they can definitively prove, even if it turns out that this is legitimate, that really is this guy's profile, they're telling the truth and they have good reasons
Starting point is 00:46:39 to be confident, that still is not the nail in the coffin that they think it is here. I mean, I got to be honest. I think it is here i i mean i gotta be honest like i think it's funny and i really just don't care i think we've won so much ground in the culture war that it is completely meaningless that they would even do it assuming it was a psyop it's just it means nothing to me it's just it's just funny the fact that every chance they get they're they're just slandering you know like Musk or Tim Kast or whoever it is that is the opposing view. It's straight slander, just associations with the most terrible organization in history, the Nazis, right? That's just, it shows that they have no substance.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Here's how I responded. Ian Miles Chong tweeted something out. Keith Olbermann responded saying sure it's suspect because your side and libs of TikTok got caught inspiring a mass murderer. Blood on your hands, F you. And I said, I really don't care what the cult thinks, like, at all. Fart, fart, fart, Keith Olbermann. I'd say
Starting point is 00:47:38 you're dumb as a box of rocks, but that's demeaning to rocks. Like, I just, do I care about what ranting, raving,atic keith oberman thinks he thought he thought donald trump was it was a russian spy like these people are not smart people and there's nothing like you know uh they try to shame you and i'm just like i you know you can't shame me well your booze mean nothing i've seen what makes you cheer exactly i mean for for any story especially if it's something that suits their narrative, you
Starting point is 00:48:05 really need to see hard proof from them in order to give it any level of credibility. I just don't care. Keith Olbermann could come out and be like, look at this picture of a thing happening. And I'd just laugh at him and be like, you are a really dumb guy and your words are meaningless and there's no reason for me to read them. Like, there is nothing Keith Olbermann can say that will impact my life in any meaningful way, politically, media-wise. I just, I don't care about these people.
Starting point is 00:48:28 He's a real piece of crap. But it's not just him. It's like, I've gotten to the point where in the culture war, a leftist can come and start going in my ears. And I'm just like, it does nothing, but it has no bearing whatsoever. It's like you said, it's all, it's all about narrative control because ostensibly it's, it's about, oh, there was a shooting and it's tragic. And, you know, they want us to believe that this is a Mexican, like it's a bold claim to say it's a Mexican white supremacist.
Starting point is 00:48:53 And they will use the tragedy to ostensibly run that narrative. When at the same time, there was other shootings that happened. Like there was a shooting that happened in Tulsa, Oklahoma, right around that same time. You know, I don't, as far as I know, nobody watched your show on that shooting, so that's not the one that they choose. They choose the one where they have to make the claim that it's a Mexican white supremacist just to be able to say that it's somebody who's watching your show. So wait on that Las Vegas shooter motivation. Yeah. Remember that one?
Starting point is 00:49:20 Or the manifesto from the Covenant shooting. So that Nashville incident as well as the Vegas one, we still haven't figured out those, have we? That was 20 minutes from, my daughter was going to a private school like 20 minutes away from there. Wow. It hit close to home.
Starting point is 00:49:36 But yeah, we don't hear much about that. And that was a Christian school. The fact that you have almost no information, or had to wait so long to get information about the Nashville shooter, the manifesto is still not out, but this had so much information the very next day, and you're not supposed to be suspect? If you're skeptical at all, it's verboten to be skeptical.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Give me a break. And the other thing I've noticed looking at the coverage of this, and this has to be part of the narrative control too, is every single article has the same talking point of over 200 mass shootings this year. All of them. And they all cite the same nonprofit. It's a lie.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Yeah. And they all cite the same nonprofit that is saying this. Now that nonprofit says there's been 1,200 defensive uses of guns. That's ridiculous. Anybody who knows about that statistic knows says there's been 1,200 defensive uses of guns. That's ridiculous. Anybody who knows about that statistic knows that there's hundreds of thousands of defensive uses of guns every year. So it makes you wonder, how the hell are they defining a mass shooting to come to that number? It's usually three or more people being injured by a firearm.
Starting point is 00:50:39 And so what they'll do is this little bait and switch where they have one definition of a mass shooting that says something depending on the definition you're looking at either three people being injured with a firearm or three people being killed. And when people hear mass shooting, of course, they don't think that that's where the bar is. They're thinking of a school shooting. They're thinking of a large group of people being massacred. So, yeah, I think three people being injured by a firearm is a very different thing from a public massacre. But the way the term is used paints a picture that 200 separate times this year already there have been these massive Columbine-level events. Exactly. When you use the phrase mass shooting, it brings to mind Columbine oria tech or parkland or any of the other horrible
Starting point is 00:51:28 horrible horrible shootings and when they sit when you're talking about 200 of them so far this year they're talking about two probably really terrible shootings and 990 or and you know and 198 that are three people took rounds when two when a drug deal went bad and that's what a mass shooting is exactly and that's one thing so a lot of it is like gang activities drug deals someone pulling out a gun again that's not a good thing that's not a thing we want to tolerate in our country we want to clean that up but that is not something that belongs in the same category as an event like a school shoot yeah and that's the thing it's this they're bringing to mind the school shooting so it's the most horrible event that you that that happens in america it puts you in the most emotional state exactly you might be the most
Starting point is 00:52:13 reactive and the most accepting of a narrative it's also very understanding of how people read information like this one like you know most people will read the headline they'll read maybe the first couple lines in there and they'll come to their conclusions. But you have to post something like this BBC article, specifically because of the way that people look for information. We want to confirm what we already kind of believe. So if we want to look up something like this and we see, okay, yeah, sure, it makes perfect sense. And, you know, it writes off Tim in a very, like, it makes perfect sense. And it writes off Tim in a very interesting, dismissive way. So this is also very intelligent
Starting point is 00:52:50 in how people peruse their information and come to their conclusions and just validate what they've already believed. I particularly like this headline from Unheard. Don't blame Tim Pool for the Texas mall shooting. That's really nice of you. Thank you for that. Look at that picture.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Look at the picture, too. So what are you doing? I think I look pretty good in that picture. No, but it's kind of like a shrugging. I think that's your outro, actually. It clips your outro. One other thing that I want to point out is that the mass- Centrist media personalities.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Thank you, Unheard. The mass shooter stuff is actually dual use, right? So one thing, it can demonize people or groups of people. They can use it to say, oh, these people are saying the wrong things, blah, blah, blah. And on the second point, it gives them a route to attack rifles, which rifles are the tools that will keep a tyrannical government at bay. That's why they are after rifles. And they're not after machine guns. They're not after tank busters, grenades. They're after rifles. That's because of Vietnam, because of Afghanistan, because all over the world, if you have a population
Starting point is 00:53:58 that's armed with rifles that can take shots at three, four, 500 yards. They can harass a well-equipped army and they can basically wait them out. And that's the last thing that the government wants to have to deal with. They want to get rid of the rifles so that way they can go ahead and say, all right, we're going to institute this particular law that violates your rights
Starting point is 00:54:17 and people are in a position, are not in a position to say, no, we're going to put our foot down. We got, I want to jump to this story from timcast.com. Jury rules Trump committed battery and defamed E. Jean Carroll, former president, calls verdict a disgrace.
Starting point is 00:54:31 A jury has ruled that former president Donald Trump committed battery on E. Jean Carroll in 1996 and later defamed her. Carroll has claimed Trump raped her in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room in New York City. Quote, I'm here because Donald Trump raped me and when I wrote about it, he said it didn't happen. Carol testified.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Trump did not testify or call any witnesses to the case. The jury ruled that Trump did not rape Carol, but that he is liable for sexual abuse. He has now been ordered to pay her $5 million in damages in the civil case. There are no criminal charges. Carol went public, blah, blah, blah. This is a crazy story.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Trump said, I have absolutely no idea who this woman is. This verdict is a disgrace, a continuation of the greatest witch hunt of all time. How does something like this happen? It's been 30 some odd years. And now Trump's got to pay $5 million. What evidence did they have? I guess they must have had something, right? Did she wear a blue dress or something?
Starting point is 00:55:21 I mean, I don't know. Trump, Trump's not doing himself any favors because apparently in the deposition he said something like he he told the lawyer questioning him that she wasn't hot enough for him did you guys see that he did he ruled he plays at the base no matter what man it was awesome he was he said something like she's not really my type and quite frankly neither are you so you didn't need to say that you're not doing yourself any favors no but he was doing us favors like how do you think a jury responds when they hear that snickers personally i i chuckle i think they chuckle a new york jury yeah he's like he's like oh should i not have said that they had any i just don't know like did she have like
Starting point is 00:56:07 actual evidence a jury of six men and three men awarded her five million dollars trump called it a disgrace what's uh what is the what is the evidence i suppose that they saw that they felt that warranted trump having to pay they said uh former magazine writer was abused by trump nearly 30 years ago the jury did not find that he raped her as uh as she had long claimed the jury returning the verdict after 3 p.m found trump is running to regain his president blah blah blah blah blah blah mr trump's lawyers called no witnesses he never appeared at the trial to hear miss carol who had sued him last year so maybe that's it it's it's just because he didn't defend himself that they were just like okay i guess default maybe i guess i don't know she walked into the courthouse grinning from ear to ear this is crazy to me sure she did it's absolutely i think
Starting point is 00:56:49 i saw that the the judge would not allow him or his defense to post evidence uh and for their defense online too so he's like gagged i'd be curious to see so the other thing that that popped up was uh was this story here because apparently i'm just in the news all the time donald trump's trial juror fan of right-wing provocateur tim pool what website is this see this is the kind of credence that would be in this jury what is this even yeah they say um where where where do we have this um a security guard 31 from the bronx said he got his news and information from podcasts he particularly particularly listened to one by Tim Poole, a controversial right-wing... Well, at least Unheard called me a centrist.
Starting point is 00:57:32 But I'm curious for, you know, this is an international article because it says it was May 10th. But I'm curious, somebody who watches this show must have seen some pretty damning evidence if they're going to convict Trump, right? I don't know. What do you guys think? i was not paying that close of attention to that trial i heard a little bit about it today but i didn't get a chance to look into the verdict
Starting point is 00:57:52 why they see if what could the evidence be did you like sniff his finger 30 30 year old is there a video of it wouldn't that be i just don't understand how could you have evidence this long yeah of something like that happening they're like well it didn't happen but trump's got a payer anyway yes i mean like correct me if i're like, well, it didn't happen, but Trump's got to pay her anyway. Yes. I mean, like, correct me if I'm wrong, but like, wouldn't the evidence be everywhere now then? Wouldn't something be out there about it?
Starting point is 00:58:12 They would have leaked something. They love talking about him. I think a lady said Trump did a thing and they're like, okay, pay her. I think that's what happened. So then when I hear that like one of the jurors was a fan, I'm like, what? He had to have seen something right you know i just i just can't believe that somebody would watch this show would be like i don't need evidence i will convict i will i will i will uh agree it's not conviction i guess you know i will found libel
Starting point is 00:58:36 find trump libel there you go yeah that's funny that he paid five million dollars to use that line which one you're not pretty enough for me you're not right you probably thought it was funny it's like i'll pay five million to say that we all we all enjoyed it i guess they say that um mr takapina clashed the judge seeking a mistrial on pervasive unfair and prejudicial hearing rulings based in part on what he described as the judge improperly sustaining objections by miss carroll's lawyers who argued that his questions were argumentative at one point judge caplan quoted the definition of an argumentative question from black's law dictionary reading it aloud to mr takapina i just i i just i can't i don't believe it i really i really just
Starting point is 00:59:17 don't say that you only need six jurors to find the person guilty in a civil trial i don't know at all and i'm just seeing something that someone was saying on the trial i don't know at all and i'm just seeing something that someone was saying on the internet i don't know man so i just think all of this is fake i think there's just going to be a non-stop circus around him through the entire election cycle to kind of to have everyone looking at these different things uh and to distract away from anything that he might have to say about you know the the the nonsense i i think this country's already fallen off a cliff, right? We had that story earlier about the border crossings,
Starting point is 00:59:48 26,000 apprehensions, and the Biden admins, like, just release them to the streets. So they're just going to release a whole bunch of, they're basically saying there's no border anymore. And I'm not exaggerating. Yeah. They said that Title 42 ends, they will enter this country,
Starting point is 01:00:01 and they will be released, which means it's a free-for-all. So I see that. I'm kind of just, it's hard for me to get enthused by any of this news where I'm just sitting here thinking like, we are free falling. So with stuff like this,
Starting point is 01:00:14 I think people need to, I think you're right. I think we're over the cliff and we need to give up on any kind of political solution from the federal level. However, the states and the localities have a lot of decision-making authority under the 10th Amendment, a lot.
Starting point is 01:00:30 And I think that's really got to be the political thing that is embraced, this concept of nullification. You know, there is absolutely no reason, there's absolutely no reason that states can't set their own immigration policies. You know, that's not in Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution. They have every bit of authority to do that. And basically, well, not basically,, that's not in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution. They have every bit of authority to do that.
Starting point is 01:00:45 And basically, well, not basically, everything that's not listed explicitly in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution is up for this kind of movement. So I really think that that's what's got to happen is we've got to realign politics with culture closer to the localities in these states. And then that's who was always meant to be making the majority of decisions anyway. Radical decentralization. That's what has to happen but not just that in theory it is given to us by the founders that power was there uh uh and and debated heavily uh you know for the states and the localities to have this and that is my opinion what has to happen is we have got to
Starting point is 01:01:21 bring the sovereignty back down as close to the individual as possible it's my good no i just want to ask you i hear you but what would that look like at a state level how would that operate if states were having more strict immigration laws or enforcing them in a way that the federal government wasn't they would i mean they they would have whatever authorities and and uh resources at their disposal so So like the Texas National Guard, they could authorize that to do what they want. Because why, if Texas being a border town and is affected the most,
Starting point is 01:01:53 why shouldn't they have the most say? Or why shouldn't they do it as they see fit when they're being essentially made to stand down by the feds when they have no authority to do that in the first place? Yeah, that's an interesting point. I hear you now. Look, I'm all about states' rights and having the states step in, especially when the federal government is failing to do their duty.
Starting point is 01:02:13 I hope something like that could work. I'm a little worried, though, just about how we'd be able to pull that off, especially with budgets. I mean, the states would have to. No, and I agree with you that the states at some point have to do something if the federal government isn't going to step in and do anything. So we're definitely on the same page there. I'm just a little worried about how effective it's going to be.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Well, I get encouraged by it because anything, almost anything that's good that happens, happens at this level. Like you see states like legalizing gold and silver as legal tender. You know, you see states like there was just a major victory for the defend the guard bill uh in the senate in arizona yeah you see constitutional carry at the state level like you see these different things that happen and that's i mean what wins like that could you say have happened in the federal level in the past five years none and that's the point yeah the the thing is the infrastructure that we're the the
Starting point is 01:03:04 infrastructure i would say well but that's judicial but still i little. The thing is, the infrastructure that we're... I would say rural, but that's judicial, but still. I would agree with that. Yeah, I would agree with that. The things that we're discussing right now are all... The infrastructure is all there. It's the way that our government's set up currently. So it's really just states taking the authority that they have. You know, governors getting some balls,
Starting point is 01:03:22 and state legislatures getting some balls, and doing things that they decide are good for their states, whether it be Abbott in Texas or whether it be, you know, DeSantis. These are governors that are doing things that help their states and other governors should follow suit. And here's the thing. It's not just the states. The localities have this authority. And so when the localities start to embrace this, that starts to set the tone for the culture in the state or the conversation in the state to make a move at have this authority. And so when the localities start to embrace this, that starts to set the tone for the culture in the state or the conversation in the state to make a move at the state. And what
Starting point is 01:03:49 we're describing is actually what the Mises caucus is all about. We're calling it Project Decentralized Revolution. We're recruiting people to run for city council, mayor, school board, sheriff, judge, to run for these types of offices where you can nullify the federal government from that local level for the specific purpose to nullify the federal government at that level. That's what we're all about. We know that we're not winning governor and Senate, you know, like we're realistic. But this is what, in my opinion, has to be done. And it kind of brings together both the political solution and the cultural solution, because culture is something that emerges from the ground up. It's not something, they're trying to bring it down from
Starting point is 01:04:28 the top, but it's not organic, it's not real. So by bringing the community together at that local level to make these decisions and insulate ourselves from the insanity of the feds, that I think is the thing that in time can generate the broader conversations. What's the biggest resistance you would find to something like that just maybe like one example the biggest resistance you would find and how you'd face that the cult mentality that seeks power and the will to dominate it is the will to dominate because the thing the thing that people that are against libertarian ideals tend to object to even if they don't say it is they can't do things that they want to do that will negatively affect other people, right? They can't implement this policy or implement this
Starting point is 01:05:11 project. And the reason is because it'll affect other people. And so people don't want to vote libertarian if they can't use the government to push other people around, whether it be push other people around by getting money from the government and and having funding whatever their pet project is or maybe it's make sure that this person doesn't do a drug that i don't like or doesn't have a lifestyle that i don't like the the will to dominate libido dominante is something that is ingrained in a significant portion of humans probably most humans and it's a very small portion of people that are like i really am a live and let live person. And if it wasn't for that fact, that it is a very small portion, you would see more libertarian policies actually in the world because everyone says they're libertarian. Everyone says,
Starting point is 01:05:54 no, I don't want to, you know, I'm a live and let live kind of guy until it comes down to actually voting as if you're a live and let live kind of guy. And I just want to plug one resource on this front. The guys over at the 10th Amendment Center, Michael Bolden, Mike Meharry, and the 10thamendmentcenter.com, they do this work and they track all of these nullification type of bills that are happening at the various states around the country. So there already is that repository and they have sample legislation on their website that anybody can start taking to their city council or to their state rep to do various things from, you know, a gun sanctuary where, you know, the state or the locality is going
Starting point is 01:06:29 to not comply with federal gun control laws, to the gold and silver repositories, to decriminalization, to the banning of the warrantless use of surveillance technology. All of this stuff can be done. Like, once you realize how short of a list of authority is in Article 1, Section 8, your imagination can run wild on what you can insulate yourself from in your community from the feds. I think that if we got rid of party affiliation on ballots, you'd see a lot of libertarians in office. Probably. You'd see a lot less Democrats. You'd see a lot of different parties in general. The closest thing that i can say that backs that up is that the majority of victories for big l libertarians are at the local level and specifically
Starting point is 01:07:10 uh where the state makes it so that local level races don't have party affiliation yep what did you say unaffiliated yep yeah there's a lot of uh local politicians that we've talked about who are clearly democrats but they're listed as unaffiliated even though they they are members of the democratic party and they fundraise with them and things like that but like you said so i i think we talked about it before get rid of d and r and l or whatever just names and then let the uninformed voters go in and be confused and vote at random they'll just check a random box or don't vote yeah don't know who you're voting for don't vote you'd see a lot fewer democratic celebrities getting on television saying just go out and vote yeah this is one of my pet peeves this is one of my pet peeves right
Starting point is 01:07:55 every single time you see one of these get out and vote psas it is almost always a spokesperson from the left and it's because they know the people who are only going out to vote because a celebrity on their television told them to don't know anything and will almost certainly vote democrat get out the vote or get out the vote is always targeting people that are uninformed about what they're voting for. Exactly. Let me give one piece of pushback here, and this is an example that maybe this wouldn't work out. So I remember I was working for Maj Toure when he was running for city council in Philadelphia.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Now, the rules for city council in Philadelphia are you have seven at-large positions on the city council, and any one party is only allowed to have five of those spots, so the two spots are reserved for the minority party. And what happened in that race, this was 2019, is that a couple of Democrats created a fake third party called the People's Party. And, you know, so it wasn't subject to the to the party line. And yet they got pumped with millions of dollars and almost took all seven spots. They took six.
Starting point is 01:09:03 So they took the six spot and almost took the seven spots. They took six. So they took the sixth spot and almost took the seventh spot. Wow. Well, all right. Now that's Philadelphia though. Which brings me to another potential solution. What about the idea of, I don't know if this,
Starting point is 01:09:20 I don't know about if this would require like a state constitutional convention, but when you think of the county party, or not parties, the county governments, what would happen if the collective of county polities came together and essentially just pushed out the big cities to be their own self-governing units? Be like, Philadelphia, love the stuff that you produce for us. Don't really like sharing a government with you here in Pennsylvania. We'll have borders with you. You're saying that we should build a wall, but not on the southern border, just around all of the cities?
Starting point is 01:09:50 A political wall, yeah. A physical wall. I'd definitely, 30 feet, no doors, and put a dome on top. Just forget about it and plug your ears when you hear yelling. I've heard people argue for this, right, with Washington, D.C. specifically, also with L.A., Chicago as well, right, separating from Illinois. I see many upsides to that.
Starting point is 01:10:18 I wonder if it's possible. I mean, normally I would have said, you know, if you asked me a couple years ago, will that ever happen, I would say absolutely not. That's crazy. But so many things that I would have said, you know, if you asked me a couple years ago, will that ever happen? I would say absolutely not. That's crazy. But so many things that I would not have predicted happening have happened over the past couple years. So it's got to the point where I'm like, I don't know. Maybe that is possible.
Starting point is 01:10:33 We got this story from CNN. Ladies and gentlemen, they got him. George Santos charged by Justice Department and Federal Probe. And that's it. We have no information. They say it's sealed. We have no idea why they're charging him. So there you go.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Spokespeople for the Brooklyn News Attorney's Office declined to comment. It's a sealed indictment. And that's it. This is the guy who, I guess they say, lied about everything
Starting point is 01:10:56 to get elected and he was actually a drag queen or something. One of the guys that lied about everything to get elected. One of 435. This is how they're going to get the house back. Just a series of sealed indictments.
Starting point is 01:11:10 They're going to start indicting everybody for fraud, being like, you lied to get elected. And then just stop. That's the job description. Look, I'm pro-Santos, man. That guy lied so much and then lied in such a spectacularly hilarious way. But how do you know he lied?
Starting point is 01:11:24 Okay, well, then I would be less pro-Santos if he didn't lie. To be honest, the deciding factor is the lies. There's this picture of a drag queen in Brazil and they're like, that's him? And I'm like, I don't know, that's him? Like, it's a drag queen wearing a bunch of makeup and a costume.
Starting point is 01:11:39 I mean, it might be, I don't know. Whatever makes the story more hilarious, I'm for. Yeah, this is the thing they do. It's like, you know, if I go online, I can find a picture that looks like Phil and then be like, here's Phil riding a giraffe in Africa or whatever. And people are going to be like, it does kind of look like him. And then all the other stories, they're like, is it true you didn't actually do this thing or that thing? And I'm like, look, I don't know what he did or didn't lie about. I'm just saying, like, if someone says 20 years ago, if I came out and was like, 20 years ago,
Starting point is 01:12:05 I was riding my bike and I did a bar spin. And then you're like, that's a lie. Tim doesn't ride bikes. You know what I mean? How do you know I didn't do it? How do you verify these things? You know what I mean? That guy is supposed to be a Brazilian crossdresser?
Starting point is 01:12:18 Yeah. Nah, they got pretty convincing ladyboys over there. That guy wouldn't make the cut. I don't know. They all claimed that he was. I looked up, look, I got the snopes article to fact check it and i'm not seeing a conclusive answer in the snopes article was rep george santos a drag queen in brazil and they don't actually say they don't tell you the one time we needed the most they disappeared
Starting point is 01:12:40 where's the fact check at the bottom tell us us. Look at this. They're claiming this is it. Like, what? There's actually, there's a better picture of him alleged to be. Well, not in the Snopes article. Even Snopes couldn't confirm it. YouTube video. Oh, wait. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Let me see. New York. Bet you he drinks Bud Light. Maybe. Speaking of pictures that look kind of like me there's a kid that actually put up a picture of someone that he thought looked like me he's like this isn't philobonte but it made me remember how much i hate philobonte so you're right there are plenty of pictures out there where something will remind someone of someone else enough. Or like Clint and Fred Durst. Oh, yeah. So this is the picture.
Starting point is 01:13:28 They're saying Performa Eula Richards provided CNO this image of a person she claims is George Santos. I hope it's real. I just don't think it's him. That does not look like the Freshmaker to me. I don't know. I don't know, man. I want to believe. I mean, maybe, but the nose is different.
Starting point is 01:13:47 He's got a round nose. This one's got, you know, the nose is a little wider at the base. Maybe. I just don't believe it. Could you imagine? And look at the lips. His lips are way different. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:14:00 And he denies it. Strongly denying claims that he once performed the most recent obsession with the media claiming I'm a drag queen or performed as a drag queen is categorically false. And they just go with it. And then people just claim it's true. This is, I just think it's nuts. You can't just take a picture of somebody and be like, that's it. And you're like, how do I know that?
Starting point is 01:14:16 So wait a minute. Is he being indicted for being a Brazilian crossdresser? No, we don't know why he's being indicted. But people need to understand this too. Anybody who's ever seen a celebrity, you know, walking down the street you're like is that is that him i can't tell because when they're doing movies or doing tv shows the angles are all different one of the biggest tricks in media that confuses people is that cameras are typically held at a at uh like chest height like right below your rib cage And so this makes everybody look really tall.
Starting point is 01:14:45 So when you're watching a TV show, men and women look tall because the perspective you have is looking up at them. Yeah. Then you meet them in real life and you're like, this dude's very short.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Women especially, they film women from a low angle and it makes them look like they're tall. And then you meet them in real life and like, this lady's five foot tall. So that's what happens with a lot of these politicians too.
Starting point is 01:15:03 You meet them and you're like, I didn't realize. So I don't know. Why do you like this guy phil what about just because he he lied his way into congress then for no other reason just because you you like every politician i just don't understand how that separates him he's so blatantly lied like he told people that he was jew-ish he like someone's like he was telling people that he had like a grandmother that died in the Holocaust. And then he came back and said, no, no, I never said that. I said that I'm Jew-ish. I'm kind of.
Starting point is 01:15:34 That was good. All sorts of really, really, really big whoppers, like absurd whoppers that make it, all right, you're really putting it on my back. You've got to be a Pocahontas fan then. Remember when that lady claimed that Kavanaugh was gang raping women in college? Yes. And they all just run the story and they believe it? Well, with that story, not only do they not have evidence,
Starting point is 01:15:58 the evidence actually pointed in the opposite direction. Like there were people who were at the party where this supposedly occurred saying that didn't happen or the story doesn first story line up the first story was when she claimed that he pinned her to a bed or something and then rolled around but like even that story that she told i'm like so wait she was at a party and she was upstairs with and there were two guys and he threw her on the bed and jumped on her and then the other guy jumped on him and they rolled around laughing and giggling and she and that's her that's her like rape story that that was the story i guess he like
Starting point is 01:16:28 jumped on the bed and then the friend jumped i thought i don't remember i thought i i thought she accused him of something pretty serious but i just remember that the evidence of the the eyewitness testimony of people who were actually there at the event did not corroborate her story the first so that was i think that was sweat neck or whatever that was uh first you had uh christine blasey ford and she was like i was at a party we went upstairs he jumped on me on the bed and held me down then his friend jumped on him and then knocked him over and then they rolled around and then i left but none of the people at the party remember him being here there even her friend she's like i don't know what she's talking about that never happened and then she lied about everything she lied about she's like i'm scared
Starting point is 01:17:01 to travel and they're like you've gone on vacation several times on planes and she's like oh and she's like i have to have two doors to my house i'm so scared and they're like you airbnb that one like you're you're renting it out it's just none of it was true well yeah and then it was the other woman who claimed at a party brett kavanaugh would and and the boys would have uh gang bangs where they would kidnap a woman and lock her in a room and then line up outside the door and take turns christ like these things don't happen no these people just make things up and then they believe it that's modern politics for you yeah and then the bbc is like we believe it's true and tim pool's wrong do you think it's starting to happen where we don't
Starting point is 01:17:36 believe it though because like absolutely because like like take the trump story does it really feel like there's like momentum behind that story? Like, like, like you were saying that you, you're not even following it. You're, you're on this show every day.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Like it doesn't, I feel like it's worn out. Like I, like the whole wild claims thing. That's why I'm, I'm saying like, it's getting really hard to care, to be honest. Like we're in free fall.
Starting point is 01:18:00 There's no Southern border. The economy is imploding. And then this, this stuff, I'm just kind of like, look, culturally, I think people have just said, shut your mouths to the psychopaths. Just shut up. Don't I hear it? And then what can you really do as the economy is crumbling?
Starting point is 01:18:16 Get out of cities. You know? Pretty much. It's the land of confusion. Isn't it wild how we're talking about some pretty heinous stuff? And some of it's like, I don't know if i really care i i don't know if i can follow along with all of it i don't know how much of it i actually believe it's burnout man and it's every single day it's it's several stories every single day that you would imagine are huge but now it's just like it's just too much i don't know if I even care anymore.
Starting point is 01:18:46 That's the collapse. That's it. And they almost never pay any kind of price for lying, right? I mean, in the case of Sandman, you know, he was able to sue him, and then they settled out of court, and I think some say that Rittenhouse has launched some lawsuits, and potentially he'll get some money out of them but for the most part they just lie constantly and they basically never pay any price for it deferred liability it's like these these articles and stuff like that if you word it in such a way well it's actually even what tucker was even saying like you can say something that could hold up a lawyer would sign off on it
Starting point is 01:19:20 but it's really misleading it's not really pointing you in the right direction and he could have given a better example you know it's like if i said a guy was arrested you know in charge of the crime but unjustly you might say okay that may be true we don't know but then if i if i if i were to admit that he was arrested six times previously for the same crime now i'm misleading you there's better examples the example i like to give is quotes they do this all the time oh yeah i like when they when they attributed seamus's statement to ian to ian yeah jezebel did that they literally took a statement right from me one of my greatest hits a based and red-pilled quote about how horrible and stupid no-fault divorce is and they gave it to ian crossland but they do it right before my eyes
Starting point is 01:20:01 here's a better way to explain how the media lies. Seamus will say, I once heard Phil Labonte claim that he prefers chocolate ice cream over strawberry. Or he said, Phil Labonte said to me, I like chocolate ice cream more than I like strawberry ice cream. They would then say, Seamus Coughlin said, quote, I like, because you did say those words. It is literally true. And if you sued, you wouldn't win. Because Seamus literally said those words it is literally true and if you sued you wouldn't win because they'd be like Seamus literally said those words we quoted him even though the context was it was someone else you were repeating exactly I mean they're using their language to communicate a non-truth which is lying but you're right that in a literal sense technically they can say he did
Starting point is 01:20:41 factual but not true magazines have been doing that. Like what was, there was this one, and I might've just heard this as an example, but it was like Michael Jackson and Faye Dunaway get married. They did, but not to each other. That's great. Yeah. That's a good one. It's all very postmodern.
Starting point is 01:20:59 We could use that. Yeah. So let's, let's look for a celebrity who just got married. Let me, let me, let me see if I can do a quick google search um and then use mid journey to put their pictures together oh my goodness who just celebrity weddings of 2023 seven hours ago who got who got married all right so i got this article and uh this one's gonna be fun um see ya got married okay and also luke i don't know who those people are so okay so see ya right you know you know see ya right musician sing from the swing from the chandelier let's just try and find um simone biles well there we go see ya and simone biles have gotten married
Starting point is 01:21:38 i like it 2023 you believe it that see ya see ya and simone biles got married some mighty fine report in there, too. I try to be a white pillar, and I don't want to say that there's no consequences to them lying. You know what I think the consequences of them lying are? The success of this show. The success that Tucker Carlson is about to have outside of it. Community notes.
Starting point is 01:21:58 Yeah, yeah. The success that Tucker Carlson is about to have outside of the system. The success of Joe Rogan and Patrick Bette David and Dave Smith and all of this stuff. And I think the other cost is kind of the conversation that we're having right now like yeah i don't believe that rape story yeah like here we go well abigail breslin and buzz aldrin got married like those are factual statements but i never said to each other so just to respond to what you're saying, I totally agree with that. And I think the fact that there's real competition is a massive white pill. My point about them not facing consequences is that there's no consequence
Starting point is 01:22:33 from within their own structure. So they don't have any incentive to tell the truth in their own institution. But you're correct that if you look outside of the institution, there are very good reasons why they should start telling the truth about things if they want to be successful but they're more interested in promoting their narrative than they are and they're completely trapped within their dying model and their dying paradigm because like what was it like maybe six months ago that cnn tried to do that um cnn plus about a year ago now actually time flies it was i think it was a little over a year ago right right? In CNN, it crashed
Starting point is 01:23:06 and burned instantly. It was so bad. I saw the billboard in LA and then it was just gone. They had to sell it. What that seems like to me is short-term gain over long-term gain. These institutions, they'll still use these old tricks
Starting point is 01:23:21 because there's short-term gain in it. It worked on the boomers but us wily Gen Xers and millennials Right. Time preference, we love Hopper. You need a better mousetrap there, propagandists. So who did George Santos just marry then?
Starting point is 01:23:38 Yeah, we gotta figure that out. They have to at least get married to somebody for me to claim they got married. Yeah, that's true. You know, so it is what it is but buzz aldrin got married so basically anybody right now guys listening if anybody you know gets married if like if you have like a friend named you know sarah smith you can be like you know sarah smith and buzz aldrin got married and they'll be like what to buzz aldrin and be like huh no they got married not to each other you can just say those things now that's how the media works that's a good one by the way it is that's a great one yeah we should there's other examples like
Starting point is 01:24:09 that that you could just pair up like you know these these two things happened in the same year on the same day and you'd somehow merge them together yeah like we could say something like tucker carlson announces new show on twitter shortly after Vladimir Putin places nuclear weapons in southern Belarus. It's like as if to imply they're related or something. True story. Yeah. And you're like, what do those things have to do with each other? Well, you got to read the rest of the article.
Starting point is 01:24:36 Well, you know, after Tucker heard about this, he said, I got to get out. I got to get back on the air and I got to talk about this, you know. And there you go. I mean, that is the implication with Tucker and Elon, though. They had a meeting. And after the meeting, he's like, hey, I'm doing a show on Twitter. And then Elon's like, we don't have a contract. So it's like, there's the real inference, you know?
Starting point is 01:24:53 How many interviews did Tucker do since he left? Because I knew he was just on Michael Knowles, right? Did he do Knowles? No, I don't think he did any show. I could have sworn I saw a piece with him on michael knolls's show maybe it was before the whole thing went down but yeah i don't know because he was talking about building seven tucker was and he was saying how like you can talk about flat earth because no one will believe you but ask some questions about building seven and you'll get fired for that that was on michael knowles wow i don't i don't i don't think so no i don't think tucker did an interview with anybody yet
Starting point is 01:25:31 oh you got deep faked no because uh i mean i could be wrong but my understanding was that um he's he still works for fox news he is still a contracted employee of fox news he he so he's still it's no different than when he had a show. They just took his show away. Interesting. That's going to bug me. I don't know. What are people saying in the chat?
Starting point is 01:25:51 Did he? They're saying it was Tulsi Gabbard. That's what... He did a show on Tulsi Gabbard? That would make sense. I mean, they're friends, right? But I saw Michael Knowles' face responding and reacting to it. Maybe he's playing a clip.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Yeah, he could clip that. Yeah, yeah. Okay, maybe. Yeah, I'd imagine so so tucker uh appeared she did a show with wait i saw that on youtube i swear i saw that something the other day that she had tucker carlson on her show i think something like that yeah uh i don't know no i think people are wrong this looks like old clips from fox news she put on her channel uh okay yeah no idea yeah tucker didn't do an interview with michael knolls he did it with tulsi gabbard but where did they do it because
Starting point is 01:26:30 on tulsi's channel i don't see it is it here what am i looking at no i saw the i saw a clip from but i'm not sure where where she posted it that's what i saw too i think no idea i see stuff from like two or three weeks ago with t. He was on Redacted. What is Redacted? I think people are saying also he was on Nelk Boys too. Trump was on Nelk Boys a while ago as well. I think that might be right. Basically, Tucker was on every single show.
Starting point is 01:26:57 Just name a show he was on it. It's Schrodinger's Tucker Carlson. What's the... Oh, that's the Full Send podcast, right? Yes. Nelk Boys is Full Send. by the way uh the trump one is pretty oh yeah it looks like they someone there's did they have tucker carlson that was a month ago uh yes yeah so these are these are old like after after the the firing is the question did it happen you know what i mean yeah yeah no idea no idea but um i don't know man it's just it's it really is sometimes i wake up and this morning i
Starting point is 01:27:34 see this story about the border is completely open just just gone and i'm like but it's been gone you know what i mean like have we do we really believe there was anything going on with the border but tim hold on have you considered that a nation fulfilling its primary definitional duty of protecting the border is mean? One more time. Have you considered that a nation fulfilling the most basic duty of a nation or government by protecting its border is mean? It's very mean. Yeah. Come on, don't you know anything?
Starting point is 01:28:03 It triggers me. Yeah. Have you considered that you're bad the fact that the the federal government has three like real jobs provide courts for redress of grievance um protect the borders and uh you know prevent uh protect the the rights of the citizens and And stop misgendering. I am shocked at this blue-pilledness that you think that the stated purpose is actually the goal. And they can't even protect the borders. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:34 It's ridiculous. It's intentional. They used to. Obama was deporter-in-chief, remember? Back in the day. But didn't they change the definition of deportation right before he took office to make it seem like he deported more than he actually did?
Starting point is 01:28:45 They've changed the definition of everything else. Yeah, well, because I think it used to be you actually had to round someone up and send them out of the country for it to be considered a deportation. But then under Obama, what they said was people who were sent away, who came to the border and were sent back, were counted as deportations. Oh, really? Yeah. Sounds like something you'd do. He also set up those concentration camps that AOC was so concerned about. Those cages.
Starting point is 01:29:05 But didn't care until Donald Trump became president. Yeah. Most of the arguments that you see in politics are just fallacies created to attack their opponents, the political opponents, more so than anything of substance. Very rarely do you have politicians that are actually talking about things of substance. And that's something that Tucker Carlson talks about a lot. He'd made a remark that, I think in the last video that he put up, that the most important things that you can talk about, like war, the economy, etc.,
Starting point is 01:29:37 those are things you're not really allowed to have any kind of dissenting opinion on. And if you do, then you get things like booted out of your job or whatever and so you know back to the the fact that tucker's going on to twitter i think again it reaffirms that to me this is a really good thing you've got elon musk who ostensibly is looking to have the most honest platform out there i mean mean, Community Notes does it all the time. Community Notes will tell you if an ad is BSing. You can get a Community Note on advertisements. So even if you don't like Tucker Carlson or even if you don't like Elon Musk,
Starting point is 01:30:20 Tucker Carlson being on Twitter with Community Notes means if Tucker Carlson lies or tells something that isn't true, it can be refuted with community notes. The left thinking that that's a bad thing or the left not en masse trying to get onto Twitter to make sure that they're able to have a voice, it'll be a bad thing for the left if they don't come to Twitter and refute the things that Tucker says. And as far as I'm concerned, fine, because generally I find myself agreeing with Tucker Carlson most of the time. And I have a significant, we'll call it distaste for the far left but you know walk away and and let us go ahead and and have the floor and and control the narrative i don't mind that at all yeah so there's this one of the articles that we pulled up from the free beacon apparently people think that george santos and gretchen whitmer are the same person so that that's one you know yeah george santos in drag george santos gretchen whitmer theymer are the same person. So that's one. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:25 George Santos in drag, George Santos, Gretchen Whitmer, they're all the same person. Dude, listen. Maybe she should be indicted. Here's the thing. The deepfake thing is gonna make this so much easier. A few years ago, there was a picture that went viral of Richard Dawkins and who's the one
Starting point is 01:31:41 who played the girl in Harry Potter? Emma Watson? Is it Watson? Yeah. There's a picture that uh who's the one who played the girl in harry potter uh emma emma watson is it watson yeah there's a picture that went viral of richard dawkins and emma watson side by side where their faces look very very similar it looks like they're they're almost identical uh but what someone actually did was slightly manipulated both of their faces so that they looked more similar to each other but for a while people were going oh my gosh emma watson and richard dawkins look so similar that's going to be really easy to pull off a while people were going, oh my gosh, Emma Watson and Richard Dawkins look so similar. That's going to be really easy to pull off with AI.
Starting point is 01:32:08 People are going to start doing that and conflating a picture of one person with a picture of another person or just generating completely fake images of people at drag shows or whatever. I'm going to get fact-checked by Snopes. They're going to say, did Donald Trump run through D.C. with Sonic the Hedgehog? False. Tim Poole is fake news. Did Donald
Starting point is 01:32:24 Trump team up with Sonic the Hedgehog? False. Tim Poole, AI generated that picture. Sonic the Hedgehog, false. Tim Pool is fake news. Did Donald Trump team up with Sonic the Hedgehog? False. Tim Pool AI generated that picture. Sonic the Hedgehog is not real. At some point, the only way people are going to be able to know something is real is if it came from your account. And even then, you could be lying. Or someone could make a fake account that looks just like yours and they can buy verification
Starting point is 01:32:40 or something. That begs the question of, in the AI space, is there any kind of corresponding growth in detection for what is AI? Because there's some real dark side to all of this stuff, too. Like, imagine
Starting point is 01:32:51 you're married and then all of a sudden there's deepfake porn of you, quote-unquote, cheating on your wife. You know what I mean? That could get real crazy real fast.
Starting point is 01:32:59 Or imagine a guy cheats on his wife and then the wife finds video and he's like, honey, that's a deepfake. That's not real. It's going to be so easy to gaslight people as AI stuff grows. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:33:08 that's no, that chat GPT made that, but that's what I'm saying. Is there any kind of like, uh, corresponding technology where it's like, this was AI generated, you know,
Starting point is 01:33:17 and I'm sure there will be AIs that will, I think there might be AIs that will be able to tell you, but I don't know, man, we're getting dangerously close to that point where you can make fake historical photographs that look real. You know? And slightly alter it in such a way that you're like, people will think it's the real photo.
Starting point is 01:33:33 So, take a picture of Donald Trump doing something, and then alter it in such a way that it's a little bit worse than it really was. Everybody eats it up. And you were even saying that the scariest thing isn't going like hog wild on the deep fake it's much more about changing one word yeah slightly changing the context or making it sound like they used a derogatory term in the midst of a speech that they actually gave
Starting point is 01:33:57 because then everyone's going to be like we know the speech happened but which one's the real one if you do a fake video of like donald trump punching a baby no one believes it yeah donald trump running with son of the hedgehog in dc some people might fall for i get that yeah i believe that i thought that was real i thought it was real and he was freaking out but that well so you show me the one where they were shaking hands and i was almost like that was real but then i noticed sonic wasn't wearing any gloves i was like sonic always wears gloves yeah i was like that's fake but that that one did almost you did almost get me but then someone's gonna make a picture of of donald trump yelling or something and people will think it's
Starting point is 01:34:29 real or like you said like changing a minor word here and there with the uh the audio technology or the voice yeah like synthesizers the very fine people hoax yeah they'll change him saying and i'm not talking about the white nationalists or the neo-nazis because they should be condemned totally they'll change it to him saying because some of them should be condemned totally so that they can be like i know this what you're talking about i did hear it and he said some of them and you'll say no he said they and then they'll play the clip and you'll be like which one's the real one and they both look identical they both say cbs and then they're gonna be like i know trump is bad he said some of them yeah i know he did not come out and praise them
Starting point is 01:35:05 that's that's crazy but he did say some of them because he thought some were okay well also even with uh just the way they decide to parse out the grammar of it when he said they're not sending their best we've talked about this in the show before they're not sending their best they're sending their what did he say criminals robbers etc they robbers, etc. They're murderers. And then they're rapists. As in clearly they are sending their rapists, but they translate it as they are rapists. And they said, Trump said Mexicans are rapists. Like, what? Do you think like, yes, he gave a campaign speech and he's like, do you know what I think of all Mexicans?
Starting point is 01:35:41 It's just the most ludicrous thing. Yeah, the most ludicrous thing in the world. All right, we're going to go to Super Chat. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends, become a member at timcast.com by clicking that join us button.
Starting point is 01:35:51 We're going to have members on the Uncensored show coming up for you at 10 p.m. Eastern time. You don't want to miss it. It's going to be a lot of fun. And if you are a member, you can submit questions and even call into the show and talk to us and our guests.
Starting point is 01:35:59 But now we will slowly and calmly read your Super Chats. Drive-by commenter says, don't know if you guys discussed this, but researchers are able to use MRIs with generative AI to read people's thoughts with 82% accuracy. What? Put Seamus in there.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Repeat that. We're going to put Seamus in that machine. Yeah. And then we're going to go on the mic. Seamus. Pop tart. And then they're going to be like, he's, he's thinking about watermelons so wait a minute it does what with 82 accuracy reads your mind what yeah what kind of image you're this is gonna save looking at it's gonna save so many
Starting point is 01:36:36 relationships where do you want where do you want to eat honey and then you just put the ai on her head and it's like oh denny's okay they're gonna have to miniaturize mri so that way you can actually have it in the car or something like that it'll send a text to your phone of the image that she's thinking of right it's scary to think that the intelligence applications of all of this stuff have probably been plotted out for years yeah oh that's a good point yeah they already know exactly how they're going to use this to screw us yeah the intelligence applications were the inspiration to start the research in the first place oh yeah all this converges on sentient world simulation look at god all right where we go we'll look that up i'm looking at chet says shout out to chicken city
Starting point is 01:37:15 buck buck cluckers the other night i noticed the light was on and i went out and looked and some of the chickens were outside like in the in the outer area, sleeping. And I'm like, why didn't they go inside? There's a little door that opens with the sun and then goes down at sunset. And the chickens, they go home. But these chickens, they didn't go home. Why? No idea. Anyway, where are we at? Hi, I'm Richard Karn. And you may have seen me on TV talking about the world's number one expandable garden hose. Well, the brand new Pocket Hose Copperhead with Pocket Pivot is here, and it's a total game changer. Old-fashioned hoses get kinks and creases at the spigot, but the Copperhead's Pocket Pivot swivels 360 degrees for full water flow and freedom to water with ease all around your home.
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Starting point is 01:38:46 so there's um a 50 state apparatus we have 250 state organizers uh and thousands of volunteers under us and uh so if you were to go to takehumanaction.com and sign up uh they would contact you and get you involved right on raymond g Jr. says, Tim, once the right stops giving an ish what the freak cult says or thinks about them, victory will come much faster. Let them ruin themselves. A wise beanie man once said, don't know, don't care.
Starting point is 01:39:16 I do say that. I do say that. Soleil Cucumber Lime says, let's F and go MAGA 2024 slash seven. Slash seven. I think that picture of trump shaking hands inside the hedgehog is the energy we need for 2024 i made that image because shamus suggested a different image that mid journey wouldn't let me make because it broke its rules no you dude we made we made so many insane images over the weekend we were we yeah and then shamus
Starting point is 01:39:44 suggested one and I typed it in and it said you have you are breaking the rules I don't remember which one well yeah remind me I genuinely don't remember which one it's not something I can probably probably be appropriate for families well Seamus had a dirty mind he was like do this one and I was like okay and then it was like no no we did well you did pregnant Donald Trump and then I was like do pray hey so he did pregnant Trump and he had a pregnant Trump. And I was like, I was like, I was like, do pregnant Trump and like Sonic is the dad standing next to him or something like that.
Starting point is 01:40:11 And it was, I don't remember the. Sonic is the dad. Is that the one? I tried. No, that one worked. And all it did was make a picture of Trump as Sonic. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:21 Chris searched for pregnant Trump. It made it. It can happen now. And then we did morbidly obese Joe Biden, 700 feet tall, crushing New York City, and it made it. Dude. It was this big, massive Joe Biden just crushing buildings. There was no reason for our minds to have access to this technology. We were coming up with some absurd nonsense.
Starting point is 01:40:42 I'll mention the members only exactly what Seamus suggested i do and it told me it broke the rules i don't even remember what it was and then what we're going to talk about for the members only is we have this uh leftist anti-police protester was going to an anti-police protest and was killed i i think i think that's what the story was she died in a robbery or something like that it's a tragic story but it's like you know we got to address why probably probably shouldn't get rid of the police you know like maybe maybe reform and stuff like that but you know but uh but we'll mention the members only exactly what shamus recommended i searched for and why it didn't work all right dave says mike can you speak to what's happening in michigan's libertarian party the fraudulent board continues to raise funds and purport to
Starting point is 01:41:23 be legitimate despite the lnc statement to the contrary god this is getting into uh inside baseball but um to set the table uh it seems to me that the effect that politics has on the human condition exists uh everywhere uh and so there were some people who were extremely, extremely angry and upset that we took the Libertarian Party over to the point where they were willing to sabotage the party or their state parties on the way out. And long story short, without getting all the boring details, the Libertarian Party of Michigan held a convention that was against its rules to try to displace our leadership and then continued on with that, proclaimed to replace the leadership, didn't. And then their judicial committee, which is like the court system of the party, ruled that that was not accurate, that that was all invalid. They broke the rules, restored the old board uh and there is now a dispute between these two boards that's that is the i don't want to bore everybody short version
Starting point is 01:42:31 andrew roland says i would like to see twitter at a video platform to compete with youtube and rumble depending on how the ad revenue will go could potentially move a lot of people from youtube to twitter i completely agree i really do want to see them create a proper video component to Twitter because I've got 1.6 million followers and I would put my videos up on Twitter. You could do it right now. It just doesn't work that well because of the way the feed works. You need to be able to like have a recommended videos thing or something like that, or people need to start building the habits of going to their video feed on Twitter, which means Twitter needs to make a video feed section. Eric Miller says, cast brew coffee names, hen house blend, and you should do a keto creamer called Shamer.
Starting point is 01:43:12 Nice. Or is it Shamer? No, Shamer, because that's my podcast, bro. He's like trying to shout me out. Big League Drew says, Tim, if you disagree with me, you're in a cult pool. Quite the opposite, good sir. My point was, if you went to the public and the public held a worldview that you did not, it was you who was the odd person out, not the public. These leftists are all about making the world bend for them instead of them adapting to
Starting point is 01:43:37 the world. It's the peak of hubris to be like, everyone else should change to accommodate my demands. You can't. It's impossible. Is everyone going to bend to the whims of literally every other person? It makes no sense. We just try to, we just try our hardest. BPAY says 1.5 million subs times $5 is $7.5 million per month without being exclusive
Starting point is 01:44:00 to the platform. Elon also said they wouldn't be taking $10 for the first year. How many followers does Tucker Carlson have? Good question. He's got 7 million. Tucker Carlson has 7 million followers.
Starting point is 01:44:16 I imagine he'll be making a couple million dollars per month. Not 7.5, but maybe like 2. Because conversion matters, and he should charge more than $5. Hosting and stuff is expensive, and we want Tucker to succeed. But maybe five
Starting point is 01:44:32 works for his show, considering volume. Volume matters. If you've got a hundred followers and you want to make a living off of your platform, you need those hundred followers to give you maybe 20 or 30 bucks a month so that you can break even and do some kind of show if you have a thousand followers now you only need 10 bucks per person five bucks the more
Starting point is 01:44:52 followers you have the less the cheaper it becomes all in all unless you're trying to build a big network and then you've got to pay for all the bandwidth and hosting and it becomes more expensive the more followers you get but for tucker doing one show i bet if he charged five bucks he'd make like two million dollars per month for sure bro cody says tim did you hear about the social worker who was axe murdered in vermont the idea that social workers are equipped to handle the mentally ill running around is a liberal fantasy i agree i agree i agree omega resetsu says tim i cringe every time you say economic right and left. Economics falls in the authoritarian libertarian axis, not left right.
Starting point is 01:45:30 Bottom up versus top down. Completely wrong. You are wrong, sir. Wrong. So on the libertarian spectrum, you can have anarcho communist and anarcho capitalist. And people who don't understand the spectrum might say like, how can communists be anarchists? Seven people living on a farm who don't use money for any exchange and have an expectation amongst each other as a community on what work is to be done and how. So it's quite
Starting point is 01:45:56 literally someone's like, hey, I grew some squash. Would you like to share it with me? I'm going to give my squash to you. And then the other hippie goes, and I did the dishes so that we can have clean plates when we eat our squash. That's not capital. That is communal labor. Works really, really well for small groups and tribes. Does not scale. Then you move to the right and you get laissez-faire capitalism, where the guy walks up to the other guy and says, I got squash. If you want it, it's a dollar a piece. That dollar is a universal trade medium that I use. Then they can reinvest that dollar into, you know, hiring someone, have them grow more squash, et cetera, et cetera. In the communal side, if you start going towards the authoritarian spectrum, you get Stalin,
Starting point is 01:46:32 where he walks up to you, puts a gun in your mouth and says, you are, you are giving me your squash because we're going to share it with everybody. Now, strangely, how it works with the authoritarian right doesn't quite make sense because they don't necessarily have capitalist systems, but there is still an argument to be made for what we associate with the authoritarian right being ultra-traditionalist. And then to your point, there is a confliction between what we would determine to be the authoritarian right. It's the odd group out in the entirety of the political compass. However, it's typically because Nazis did use capital systems. They were quote unquote socialists,
Starting point is 01:47:08 but they used capital exchange kind of like the Chinese communists do. There's a lot to go through and it's a lot more complicated than that, but that's a simple version. I don't know if you wanted to add anything. Well, basically what you're describing what the Nazis did was corporatism
Starting point is 01:47:20 and that's what we have today. It's kind of the best of both worlds between communism and capitalism where you still have some semblance of private ownership. You still have a price system, and the price system is probably the most important. But that's not communism, then. It's just authoritarianism. It's authoritarianism, but it's not communism in the sense that it's not complete government ownership and control, but it's government management through policy, through regulation. And they basically pick the corporate overlords who then write the policy and tip everything.
Starting point is 01:47:47 And so you're off of a free market system. The issue is that people think communism and the only examples that exist in history are authoritarian statist communism. So they associate authoritarian overt control and communism as one thing, whereas you can have 10. There are communes in the United States where it's like 100 people on a farm and they all just do a base piece of labor and then and then share and they vote people in, they vote people out.
Starting point is 01:48:15 They exist. They just don't scale up because you can't have a guy from, you know, two towns over coming over to me and being like, OK, now I get your fruit and you get my wood. And I'm like, I don't need that. There needs to be some kind of way to do an exchange. And it begs the question of what exactly is economics? Like the school of thought that I'm from, the Austrian school would say that economics is basically just the observing, the observance of subjective value judgments in the marketplace when weighed against like real world things like scarcity. So in that sense,
Starting point is 01:48:50 action that is economized of all types is technically economic. It's economic activity. And money actually observed historically as a social phenomenon to solve the problem that you're talking about. It's called, in economic theory, it's called the double coincidence of wants. The whole, oh, well, you have an ax, I have eggs, we can't trade,
Starting point is 01:49:12 so I have to go to some intermediary to trade my eggs to get your ax. And that is how gold and silver became money in the organic sense. Like, it wasn't a government that dictated that these things are money. They were just a commonly valued commodity that over time became money. And so that problem was overcome by money and then emerged the price system. Kim Lelajo in the general chat says, that is not communism, Tim. Communism is Marxism. You're talking about hippie communes.
Starting point is 01:49:40 I think you exemplified perfectly my point. If we are talking about the basic economic structure, then yes, I am defining communism and you are defining a specific historical example of one guy's writing, which is not the general concept. So there's a bunch of different kinds of capitalism, right? There's capitalism to varying degrees. When you move left and right on the political compass compass you get varying degrees of regulation versus freedom laissez-faire capitalism but you there's there's an upward motion as well so like in the middle you have a basic thing like the the libertarian middle would kind of be like
Starting point is 01:50:17 we live on a farm we all agree there's a chore rotation however if somebody wants specific task done then we trade for it. If you go all the way to the hippie commune left, everyone's just like, we agree you can use whatever you want. I don't think that scales properly. If you go all the way to the right, then everyone's just trading and exchanging value, which tends to work very, very well in the long run. That doesn't mean that all forms of communal living are authoritarian because there are communes in the United States. One example I was reading about, 100 people live there, 100 people, and it is a commune.
Starting point is 01:50:50 And they have like a board that votes on when people can come in and go out, and they all agree the system works and they all get along. But it's usually like people come and live there for a year or two, then leave. So let's see what happens is people read about history, and there's one historical example of communism because it never works at scale, and there's one historical example of communism because it never works at scale and it's statist authoritarianism but don't confuse an authoritarian system with the economic concept of communal function like communal economics all right where are we at yes man says has anyone ever been far enough has decided to use even go wants to do more
Starting point is 01:51:24 to do look more like there's an old meme i wonder yeah it's an old meme but it checks out rudy cassone says tucker was a traditional libertarian that's why he backed ron paul back in the day you're probably too young to remember that i knew that he was a traditional libertarian okay he's talked about it hasn't he oh yeah i think it was associated with kato at one point but they're they're the dark side of the libertarian phil dude bro says so whose nickname is the hedgehog and who is going to do battle with hint his name is also ron what would what would trump call son of the hedgehog if he was debating him oh how would he insult him? Yeah. That's actually really tough. The person is making a reference to a porn star. Oh.
Starting point is 01:52:09 Ron Jeremy, his nickname is the Hedgehog. Oh, nice. He's going to jail, isn't he? I believe so. Immortal Legend says, Pertaining to Keith Olbermann, it must suck to be a propagandist and be terrible at that job.
Starting point is 01:52:21 Bro, you had one job. That dude's very unwell. He is absolutely hysterical about, like when he tweets and stuff, it's not reasonable and chill. It is just spazzing out. Yeah. It's kind of wild to watch.
Starting point is 01:52:38 Yeah. Cain Abel says, Tim, they really do hate you. I would not be surprised if you were on the FBI's top 10 list of enemies of the state. Well, I guess we know what happened when you do not show up for work. I don't know
Starting point is 01:52:49 about that. I don't think they hate me. I think they half like the show. No, they hate you. They fear you. They hate you. I think they really don't like you. No one at school likes you. They all hate you. Well, you know, like the FBI came over and they were like, hey, we're cool, dude. Seamus, man, you brought him back and I was like, are you serious? Yeah. Did you stand up for me? And then the CIA showed up. Did you stand up for me? And then they were like, oh like the FBI came over and they were like, hey, we're cool, dude. He's just, Seamus, man. You brought him back. And I was like, are you serious?
Starting point is 01:53:06 Yeah. Did you stand up for me? And then the CIA showed up. Did you stand up for me? And then they were like, oh, the FBI's here? And then they were like, yeah, we're here too. And the CIA guy goes like, it's Seamus. Isn't it like, yeah, you're here for Seamus too?
Starting point is 01:53:15 No, no. First of all, they're not friends. I know this story isn't true because they don't like each other. They don't like each other. Yeah. But they're both like, you don't like Seamus either? And it's like, well, we have that in common, I guess. Yeah, that's fair.
Starting point is 01:53:23 Honestly, that happens. Has the Department of Energy showed up and they were like? Oh, they really don't like meamus either and it's like well we have that in common I guess that's fair honestly that happens the Department of Energy showed up oh they really don't like me has the Southern Poverty Law Center declared you a hate leader yet they claimed that what did they say I spoke in Iran at a Holocaust deniers conference
Starting point is 01:53:40 because they found an archive of an Iranian website that's a deep fake of you i want that's an image i want ever to see the southern property law center right that i was a speaker at a holocaust deniers conference in iran and i was just like so wild what yeah and they had to delete it and then apologize that was hilarious because i did but did you i have never been to iran i am proudly featured in their Hate Watch series. Oh, no way. They featured Luke Rutkowski a while back.
Starting point is 01:54:09 Did they? Makes sense. Yeah. I haven't gotten my wings yet, boys. You haven't got your wings. And even Media Matters ignored you. No, well, sort of. Sort of.
Starting point is 01:54:18 Media Matters published an article based on my very naughty words. And by naughty words words i mean saying marriage between a man and a woman in gay marriage doesn't exist it's an incoherent concept and they titled it timcast podcast panelists fight marriage equality to me and the picture was of you yeah and so people were sharing it going ah this is why i knew not to trust him pull he's against gay marriage and blah, blah, blah. I was like, I was the one who said it, right? I was the one who said it. They're making it sound, I know, it's unfair.
Starting point is 01:54:49 And the article, they give me credit though. When Media Matters wrote the list of TimCast guests, they omitted you. Yeah, they left me out. They omitted me. It was funny because- And I was like, I'm worse than all these people. But you are, that's the point.
Starting point is 01:55:03 That's actually really funny. I remember a while ago there was also this um analysis that was done infamously on youtube and how it radicalizes people and they had a bunch of conservative channels on there and they put me as like center right towards moderate and they took some of my friends who are like libertarians uh like and like lou perez from we are the internet and put them in the far right category i was like wait a minute they're far right and i'm like center right but the reason the thing is it's because they have no way to
Starting point is 01:55:35 distinguish between the different gradients that exist in conservatism because to them politics is a binary you're either on my side or you're a nazi then all these people are nazis i've only gotten a couple like pokes from like the left like media matters and stuff like that and they always like they never mention like the band they call me right wing guy and stuff but they never they never say the guy from all that remains you know or whatever they don't want to they don't want music yeah they don't want to they don't want people to know that i'm i'm you know anything other than a guy that talks on the radio you You're insulated. You declared very early on that you will not give in to fascist beliefs. In 2006, I'm so ahead of the curve that I was saying fascism sucks
Starting point is 01:56:13 before the commies were saying fascism sucks, before the Zoomer commies. Let's read this. Southern Yankee says, Tim, get Mark Dice on the show. Mark Dice has an open invite. I have talked to him many times. He's a good dude, big fan. So he can come on whenever he can. That'd be great. It'd be great to have him on the Culture
Starting point is 01:56:30 War show, too. We also have, we're working on a big project, which is going to be really awesome with the Culture War show, expanding it, and I'm really excited for that, but we'll give you more details later on. Rudy Cassone says, the ancient Romans were unaware of the lead affecting their brains from their wine jars. Today, chemicals
Starting point is 01:56:45 in our food, cleaning products, etc. are affecting many people's ability to reason. True. And I actually think it's making the freaking kids trans! Because the endocrine disruptors and the plastics and all that are affecting fetal development. I don't care what was in the Roman water. Marcus Aurelius had his shit together. Yeah, true. He was based.
Starting point is 01:57:02 Yeah. He was a very based guy. I'm reading his, uh, what is it called? Meditations. Meditations. I just got a, I ordered a leather-bound copy of that, and I think they had his shit together yeah he was based yeah he's a very based guy i'm reading his uh meditations i just got a i ordered a leather bound copy of that and i think they had to actually make it in india because it took me like two months to get from amazon oh sweet ass phenomenon says eugene carroll is the same woman who went on anderson cooper and literally said that she thinks rape i'm not going to read the quote but she said she thinks her bisexual she what she actually said was she said that most people think it is sexy she didn't say that she thinks rape i'm not going to read the quote but she said she thinks her bisexuality what she actually said was she said that most people think it is sexy she didn't say that she did you know if that distinction matters to you i don't know that's
Starting point is 01:57:32 the quote slightly off mo harris says they took our jobs classic you know zane thomas says read reynolds v sims 1964 to understand how the blue cities gained control of the red counties. Well, what was that again? Reynolds v. Sims 1964 to learn how blue cities gained control of red counties. I'm going to look that up. Larry Stout says article in The Hill has Biden wanting to use the 14th Amendment for the budget problem. Well, OK. Some people are saying that is unconstitutional crazy roger page says tim pool and brian stelter had meetings i was not allowed to partake in i don't know what that means i've never had a meeting with brian stelter what is that a reference to is it a joke i'm
Starting point is 01:58:20 missing uh i think so oh well i didn't if you had a meeting with him, though. That'd be hilarious. Yep. And YouTube just gave us the jump. Rick E. says, Trump Hedgehog of 2024. Is that his last name? The Hedgehog? I believe so, yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:38 I believe it's Sonic and his middle name is The, and then his last name is Hedgehog. And if Trump is smart, that's who he's going to select as his running mate. Oh, man. Can you? Quite frankly, I'm selecting Sonic. Some people were saying I wasn't going to pick him.
Starting point is 01:58:56 I won't name names, but it's a race. Some say it's a race. You have to go. Some say you have to go fast in a race. He's the fastest. If you want to win the race. So it would have to go some say you have to go fast in a race if you want to win the race but so he would have to
Starting point is 01:59:08 it would have to be an arc where he starts by just relentlessly trashing Sonic through the primary he's like little blue Sonic just ripping him apart
Starting point is 01:59:18 and then little baby blue little baby blue Sonic runs from all his problems and then eventually he'd be like i like i like him because he won't get caught i like him because he couldn't get caught he's too fast yeah that's what i'll do jessica cox has been a supporter since day one michael is wearing my
Starting point is 01:59:36 boyfriend's band shirt the contortionist tell michael joey b says hi and thanks for the support yeah they're fans of the show man oh cool yeah they're great guys sweet sounds awesome crentis the dentist says what do you think of bitcoin should we trust in a currency even though it's not backed by any assist or physically commodities yeah i know but it says assist oh yeah yeah so i just read them as they type them see that by the way i love the the reference in the name crentis the dentist good office reference oh i don't remember that. By the way, I love the reference to the name, Crentus the Dentist. Good office reference. Oh, I don't know. Remember when Dwight's trying to take the day off and he's clearly lying?
Starting point is 02:00:08 Never seen it. He's like, I'm going to the dentist. And then Michael's like, what's his name? He's like, Crentus. I've never seen the episode. Oh my gosh, you've never seen a single episode? No. Wow.
Starting point is 02:00:17 Not one. You have to. It's funny. You're an animal. You're uncultured and you want to stay uncultured, and that's fine. That's fine. I'll let you live that life. Zermist Playground says,
Starting point is 02:00:28 hey Tim, for poker with the boys, you should set up a fake mustache vending machine outside the door. It could be priced at a dollar a piece, but give back 23 cents change. Would be a hilarious gag I can wait for. Infringed. We skipped Bitcoin. The problem with the... Oh yeah, yeah, we were going to ask about, what do you think about Bitcoin?
Starting point is 02:00:45 I love Bitcoin. I got a the, oh yeah, yeah, we were going to ask about, what do you think about Bitcoin? I love Bitcoin. I got a bunch. There you go. Should have bought a bunch more. They say that it's not, or that he was asking, it's not backed up by anything and it's not backed up
Starting point is 02:00:52 by what you normally think of, but there was energy in the form of electricity and there was value in that electricity that was put into it. So there is a certain amount of value instilled into it.
Starting point is 02:01:03 Right. The energy required to make a Bitcoin guarantees the price of Bitcoin. I'm going to be a stickler. It's not backed by a certain amount of value. It's backed by a certain amount of utility because the value is still subjective.
Starting point is 02:01:14 Like, and basically what it is, is it can, the blockchain itself serving as a ledger of account. It's infrastructure. Gives it a unique quality of money that no other money has ever had. where you can you can trust it to that extent because you can't you can't hack bitcoin but all all money is is do people have confidence it can be used for exchange yeah right that's it yeah and the the value of bitcoin isn't actually
Starting point is 02:01:39 in the coins it's in the network yeah correct in the security and and via the ability to transfer that's easy so someone in chat said bitcoin is backed by math and i misread that as meth for a second and i was like what is that you know what if there is a a meth standard implemented at some point that's that's true as for poker with the boys the problem is poker is illegal in west virginia which makes no sense but pokemon and magic the gathering and yugioh are also illegal and i'm not exaggerating or being cute yugioh like pokemon is it's illegal the the law explicitly states you can't host any card game and you cannot play any card game it doesn't say you can't gamble or wage your money It literally says you can't play card games. The thing is the
Starting point is 02:02:25 law was likely written before card games were invented. And so the only card games that existed were card decks with 52 cards, you know, the standard poker decks. And so the law was written vaguely. Then Pokemon, Magic the Gathering and Yu-Gi-Oh! emerge. And now we have a constitutional problem where the state allows children to wager on games of chance. Now I know magic gathering Pokemon have skill in deck building and strategy and play, but the law says you can't play card games period. Then when a child gives money to the owner to enter a competition in which chance plays a role, because there's another important factor. The law in West Virginia does not say to what degree chance it says it just chance any. So a game where you draw cards and there is a random chance at
Starting point is 02:03:10 getting good cards or energy or whatever you need. That is a game of chance outside of all of that. I kid you not look up the laws in West Virginia says card games are illegal. And when I went and talked to the government, they were like, yeah, card games are illegal. And I'm like, there's Pokemon and magic gathering all over the state. So how do you how do you control for one but not the other and i think i was talking to a state senator and i said i guess the end result is either they will ban pokemon or legalize poker because you can't it can't both be the same thing because it just says card game doesn't matter how much chance is involved i want to stress that point all right everybody if you haven't already,
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Starting point is 02:03:58 So definitely sign up. You can follow the show at Timcast IRL, basically everywhere. You can follow me personally at Timcast. Michael, do you want to shout anything out? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, if you agree with what I'm saying as far as the decentralization and nullification strategy, this is what the Libertarian Party is doing.
Starting point is 02:04:12 You can go to lp.org slash join. You do not have to change your registration to become a member of the party. You can just throw us some support. And if you want to support the Mises Caucus, go to TakeHumanAction.com and keep the revolution alive. Yeah, I think I'll actually just give a shout out to Robert Breedlove, who has the What Is Money podcast, because a lot of what we were just talking about with Bitcoin and what is money, what are economics, he gets into that pretty deeply. I actually want to shout out Ben here, because in the time before Clown World, when YouTube didn't suck and there was a lot of independent documentaries,
Starting point is 02:04:49 Ben was one of the early pioneers producing content that was red-pilling people on a deep level with his documentaries, The Esoteric Agenda, Chimatica, and Ungrip, and that he can get mentioned. So those documentaries are still out there.
Starting point is 02:05:01 They're still good stuff, man. And we got one that's just about ready to come out. Game of Money. Game of Money. And it got one that's just about ready to come out. Game of money. Game of money. And it's perfect timing, too, considering all the banks are collapsing. Yeah. So Ben's actually here so we can figure out the proper distribution. With Infringed, we might do a premiere, which means it might actually take a month.
Starting point is 02:05:18 We're trying to get clearance on certain clips we want to use. So the lawyer's got to go through it. And then the opportunity there is like, okay, well, if we're waiting, why don't we get a theater and then do like an actual premiere of the documentary? Which would be cool. So we'll see. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:31 Seamus. My name's Seamus Coghlan. What I want to shout out is the novena that we're praying to St. Joseph for the working class in this tumultuous economy, for the unborn, for our enemies, including the people at Vice, many of whom may be out of work,
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