Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #777 CNN Cut Trump Townhall By 20 Minutes IN PANIC, TRUMP IS BACK w/Auron MacIntyre

Episode Date: May 12, 2023

Tim, Seamus, Phil, & Serge join Auron MacIntyre to discuss CNN cutting the Trump Townhall short, Daniel Penny being charged with manslaughter, HSBC downgrading Bud Light's stock, & a professor under i...nvestigation for giving out Jeremy's Chocolate Bars. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So last night we were watching the town hall with Donald Trump here on Timcast IRL. And I don't know if you noticed, but when they wrapped the show up, I was like, I guess the show is over because we had planned for the show to go till 930. And we noticed a couple of things. There were weird commercials back to back. They did no commercials and all of a sudden went to commercial, then came back for like 10 minutes and went to commercial again and then abruptly shut the show down. It is confirmed that CNN cut the show short by 20 minutes. And we don't know why, but I think it's because Donald Trump was roasting them on their own network. Everyone was cheering and they panicked. So we're going to talk about the ramifications of this. We've got CNN employees are in revolt. All of
Starting point is 00:00:45 the liberal left are screaming, how dare you, CNN? And I think CNN is now bleeding what little audience it had left. Jeff Zucker turned the network from generic corporate news into leftist psychopathy. And now those people are furious. And Chris Licht, the new CEO, he's not going to be able to bring that back. Sorry, you can't you can't resurrect this corpse. Then we got other big news. Daniel Penny, the man in New York who was defending people from a violent, deranged man who then tried to save that man will be criminally charged. So thanks to the likes of people like AOC in the far left, they're getting what they want. And this man who was trying to save others and the violent perpetrator himself. Yeah, he's going to get locked up. He's getting manslaughter charges, which I imagine he'll likely, I mean, maybe he'll take a plea.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Maybe he'll get convicted. I think he's going to do some kind of time. So we'll talk about that. Plus, Elon Musk has appointed a new CEO or he's announced a new CEO of Twitter coming soon. And we think we know who it is. The Wall Street Journal has the report. Before we get started, my friends have to head over to castbrew.com and purchase Cast Brew Coffee. We have just launched the Cast Brew Coffee Club, where for 40 bucks, you get three different roasts per month. And that's actually a pretty good deal because normally it would be like 46 to 50 bucks. So it's a big discount. And we have to update it, but there's going to be a discount system where after a certain amount of time, like six months, the price drops even further for our longstanding customers.
Starting point is 00:02:06 And the other news, unfortunately, ladies and gentlemen, we've sold out of Rise with Roberto Jr. So thank you guys so much for supporting Casper Coffee. That just basically means we sold a lot of coffee. Yeah, we sold out. And then some. So we're roasting the next batch for everybody. Go to Casper.com if you want to support the show because we are sponsoring ourselves in light of everything that's happening in this world.
Starting point is 00:02:27 We got another story too pertaining to Jeremy's chocolate. A gay conservative professor was put on leave for just having the chocolate available for people to eat. That's it. So we're going to talk about the parallel economy too. Don't forget to also head over to TimCast.com. Click that Join Us button in the menu bar. Sign up to become a member
Starting point is 00:02:44 and you can hang out in our discord server with like minded individuals and submit questions for our members only uncensored show Monday through Thursday at 10 10 p.m. We're going to have one of those uncensored shows on the front page of Timcast dot com at about 10 p.m. 10 10 p.m. is when it usually goes live. And we'd like to see you there. So become a member, support our work. Don't forget to smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel, share this show. If you really do like it, that one's really important. And, uh, you can follow the show at Timcast. IRL joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Oren McIntyre. Hey man, thanks for having me back. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Who are you? What do you do? I'm over at the blaze. Got a show there, the Oren McIntyre podcast. I've also got a YouTube channel, Twitter, all that stuff talking about political philosophy, news of the day, that kind of stuff. Well, right on. Thanks for hanging out. It should be fun. Absolutely. We got Seamus.
Starting point is 00:03:29 My name is Seamus Coughlin. We're on a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes. We usually upload Tuesdays and Thursdays, but we decided we're going to upload Friday this week because we wanted to polish the video up a little bit more. So if you guys want to go over there and subscribe, we will be releasing that tomorrow. We also have a membership portal at freedomtunes.com where you can become a member and get an extra cartoon each week as well as more behind the scenes stuff how fun very fun how you doing i'm phil labonte i am the lead singer of all that
Starting point is 00:03:55 remains i am an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary dude that that that new song i was blasting it all day i appreciate that i don't know if i'm supposed to say anything about the new all that remains stuff but no no joke i was blasting has heard tim has heard some stuff and and we are excited to uh present it it is sufficiently aggressive for the fall of ideals fans i promise so nice i've heard some stuff as well it's pretty good yeah cheers man thank you uh and i am serge.com i'm ready to get. So whenever you are. Let's jump into this first story. Look at this from Newsweek.com. CNN cutting Donald Trump town hall short by 20 minutes raises questions. I love this.
Starting point is 00:04:32 They say the former president 2024 primary contender took to the stage, blah, blah, blah. In a statement to Newsweek earlier this week, the network said it was our job, despite his unique circumstances, to do what we do best. Blah, blah. We get it. Dylan Byers, a senior correspondent at Puck News, tweeted on Wednesday that the town hall was scheduled as a 90-minute broadcast, though the network expected the actual event to go as long as 75 minutes. He went on to say that it was ended less than 70 minutes in. In other words, they could have gone longer if they wanted,
Starting point is 00:04:58 which is usually what executives do with big ratings draws, and it was. It pulled in 3.3 million viewers which is massive for cnn yet for some reason two interesting things the first 40 minutes in we get this abrupt commercial and i was like oh they did a commercial that's weird normally when they do events like this there's no commercials and that's it was weird for us i guess we're gonna go to commentary while we wait for the commercial to pass show Show comes back for a few minutes. Jumps to commercial again.
Starting point is 00:05:28 That's really weird. They come back. Well, that's it for tonight. Thanks for hanging out. We'll see y'all later. Bye. Off. I wonder what happened. What do you guys think happened? Do you think it was that Trump was just doing such an amazing job? Yeah, I don't know. I would imagine that's why, but it's really shocking to me that CNN would have the self
Starting point is 00:05:44 awareness to stop focusing on Trump when they were getting good ratings from it because the entire story of 2016 was them focusing on him nonstop and boosting his public platform all the while claiming to hate him because they knew it would pull in more money for them. So it's kind of out of character for them to try to pull back from Trump, even when the optics are good for him. You know what I think it is? I think CNN used to be generic corporate press. I used to have CNN on 24 seven. I would turn the TV on, put it to CNN, and then I would just start working because when breaking news would happen, they'd be like breaking news. A tornado was touched down and I'd be like, oh wow, CNN, they get it quick. And then at some point it was just nothing but Trump. And then I was like,
Starting point is 00:06:21 okay, this is doing nothing for me. There's no news here. It was just people opining who had turned it off. When I turned it off and a bunch of other moderates and independents and people like me turned it off, the only people left standing watching that were anti-Trump psychopaths, which CNN was courting. Years later, that's the only group of people who watches the network. So when they said, we're going to do a Donald Trump town hallris licked the ceos like we're gonna build our our credibility back up with with america they looked at what was going on they looked at the feedback and they were like we are getting obliterated right now cut it if you were paying attention to twitter and stuff the talk amongst a lot of the more vocal leftists was how the audience response was laughing and basically enjoying the Trump show they were you know laughing
Starting point is 00:07:12 and getting along you know it was great for them and I think that that was one of the things that really made a big difference I think that CNN realized that essentially they were hurting their chance their arguments and allowing Trump to embarrass them. And I think that was one of the big things for them to take them down. I think that the comments on CNN or on Twitter were making an effect. Matt Gaetz called it a mercy rule.
Starting point is 00:07:38 He says, I've never seen a town hall get called like a mercy rule before. That really happened? Yes. Yeah, there was a real sense of panic you could tell that you were not supposed to allow trump to kind of have that magic back again he is in his element when he's destroying the media when he's kind of just breaking that mystery about them you know that kind of thin veneer of civility where they kind of pretend like they don't hate
Starting point is 00:08:01 america but it's very clear that they do and he he just enrages them in a way that no one else does when he's doing his thing up there. And so when you saw the people laughing, when you saw him joking, when you saw him pulling attention away from the host, embarrassing him, that moment when he breaks out his own tweets that he's printed up, I mean, you knew it was done after that. They were obviously losing control. Yeah, absolutely. And part of what's so remarkable about this is that this was not a Trump rally. It might have felt like one, but this is a CNN town hall, which means the kind of person going to that isn't necessarily who you would expect to be Trump's demographic of supporters. And he was crushing.
Starting point is 00:08:37 He was absolutely killing it there. And I think that made them really panic, too. Would you see that clip where they ask the panel about the town hall and they're like, does it bother you that Trump won't stop talking about 2020? And the guy goes, you asked him about 2020. And they were like, well, well, right. But you know, he talks about a lot. He's like, maybe you could ask him about something else. He's like, well, yeah, yes, we could. Yeah. They screwed this whole thing up. I think Trump did a great job. And what CNN has often done is they've taken clips of trump out of context to try to make
Starting point is 00:09:05 it as unflattering as possible and i'm not saying trump does it or hasn't said things that are very easy to spin in a negative way right the guy isn't always prudent with his choice of words nobody's always hilarious he's always hilarious and they just gave that unfiltered hilariousness directly to their audience and they have this woman on stage who's constantly interrupting constantly trying to cut him off and constantly trying to do the finger wagging which becomes much more obnoxious when you're there with the person who's entertaining them right extremely off-putting yes exactly so if you have footage of trump killing it at a rally and everyone's having fun and it's enjoyable and then you take footage of that and you go,
Starting point is 00:09:46 this was bad. I'm wagging my finger. How horrible. That's kind of annoying, right? But if you're at the event actively trying to stop the fun from happening, those are the worst possible optics. No one's on your side. No one is on your side. Why are you trying to throw a wet
Starting point is 00:10:02 blanket on the funny man? Let the funny man be funny. We're having a good time, huh? What are you trying to throw a wet blanket on the funny man? Exactly. Let the funny man be funny. We're having a good time, huh? What are you doing? We're here listening to Trump make jokes. Exactly. And she became an unwitting performer, right? And this is sort of how Michael Malice describes trolling.
Starting point is 00:10:15 He says, turning someone else into an unwitting performer, which I think can be a solid definition for what trolling is. And there became something that was kind of comical about the fact that every time he was talking, she was like, no, wait, no, have to i have to i have to correct that you're a nasty person you're just very nasty it was the teacher chasing the child as the child's running through the room throwing stuff and the teacher's just running after the kid trying to get the kid to sit down and would you put that down and don't get over here and put that don't put your don't put your finger in there but that's exactly what she was doing and donald trump's and it's and people are dying and he's just absolutely making a fool of this woman well
Starting point is 00:10:56 it was wonderful you can really see that dynamic when he's like oh or she kept saying you can't keep calling it a rigged election you can't keep saying that it's I can do what I want. Exactly. He just runs right over. She has no control over the situation. This is supposed to be an inquisition. They're supposed to bring Trump up there and hold him accountable and make the entire audience just see his evil ways. And he's just making them look hilarious. And that's the worst thing that can happen when you're trying to be in a position of
Starting point is 00:11:19 authority persecuting somebody. So do you guys think Trump's back? Trump is back. That's a complicated question. That's a complicated question Trump's back? Trump is back. 2016. That's a complicated question. That's a complicated question. I mean, how is he going to pull
Starting point is 00:11:28 with the American people overall? I don't know. I will say this was good for him. This was very good for him. Best day since, I heard someone on the way in, I heard someone talking about it, the best day since he went to Ohio.
Starting point is 00:11:40 What? What was Ohio? When he went to the Ohio at the train derailing. Oh, right, right,ailing oh right right right right right yeah absolutely this this brought back a lot of that energy in the beginning it was a little slow it was a little i was like oh come on man and then in the end he's standing up and he's like no no boy you're a nasty woman nasty was a nasty person something like that is like you're very
Starting point is 00:11:58 nasty he says like oh boy are you nasty something along those lines because what we're getting out of this town hall is a guy kind of giving us legitimate answers look i don't do you want ukraine to win the war i want people to stop dying oh oh now now even newsweek has it look at this that's a very good diplomatic answer to that right because because do you want to go ahead and be like yeah we have to smash russia because you know we're only like closer to nuclear war than we've been since the 60s is what they wrote speaking at the town, Trump would not say whether he wanted Ukraine to win the war against Russia. A battle the Biden admin has supported with aid and said the U.S. might as well default on its debt despite warning the potential for devastating economic impact if it did.
Starting point is 00:12:38 I'm all for that. Like, I'm all for letting the default happen. I'm like, we can't just live this way. I think Trump's strategy on Ukraine, I know what his strategy is. It's sit down with Putin and Zelensky and say, what ends this war? And then having them both be like X, Y, and Z. And he goes, done. That's it.
Starting point is 00:12:56 And that means both parties are going to be unhappy. But the problem is the zealots in this country, you have to march in lockstep with the cult. And this is why I say like the woke stuff has nothing to do with leftist ideology in its root because there's no reason why Ukraine's war support support for war in Ukraine has nothing to do
Starting point is 00:13:15 with Marxism or communism or any ideologies or anything like that. It's just you have to be marching in lockstep. That's what Caitlin Collins was hoping to get. That's what Sina was hoping to get. you want ukraine to win the war and trump says what most americans probably accepted and wanted to hear we want people to stop dying just stop the war just just make it stop there we go you can't have that nope gotta shut that down no as if as if he's supposed to come out and be some kind of war hawk of course that's exactly what they want like you said they
Starting point is 00:13:42 want to go out there and and basically be as bombastic as he usually is, but with a nuclear armed power instead. And I'm not saying that Trump being bombastic has always been a bad thing with respect to foreign policy. There's a good argument to be made that his brashness is part of why Putin didn't invade Ukraine while Trump was in office and waited until there was a ice cream loving child sniffing man with dementia in office to make that move but she's clearly trying to coax trump into saying something that would be bad for a his public image and also the united states standing on the world stage it's good that he's handling this as diplomatically as he is 3.3 million viewers that's a big deal for cnn you know they they normally can't muster that up. But we got more news. CNN's own employees are disparaging the Trump town hall.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Employees inside the company are slamming the network for giving Trump a platform to spout false claims on a multitude of issues. We have this thread from Brian Stelter. I love this one because it shows how out of touch they are. Chris Licht begins CNN's 9 a.m. editorial call praisingaitlyn collins for a quote masterful performance last night he says i couldn't be more proud of her and the whole team in new hampshire then he says he's aware of the backlash more to come okay cnn's doomed if if they thought caitlyn collins did a good job that they're just done it was it was a poor performance by an individual who should not be in that position. Kaitlyn Collins does not have the persona, the presence, the gravitas, the talent capability to stand up against a Donald Trump figure in this way.
Starting point is 00:15:14 She just comes off as whiny the whole time, constantly interrupting him. No fun. She was literally the no fun person. But that's like all the press can do at this point, right? They all know that they're not allowed to be objective anymore? They all know that they're not allowed to be objective anymore. They all know that they're not allowed to let him get up there and give a fair hearing. They all understand that it's their job
Starting point is 00:15:32 to destroy this person publicly, and if they don't do that, they're going to get criticized for being too light on Trump, for facilitating him, and putting him up there. And so they understand that they have to just badger him like this, and it doesn't matter how ridiculous they look, because they don't care about the they look because they don't care about the audience and they don't care about the ratings.
Starting point is 00:15:46 They care about the approval of their friends. They care about the approval of the crowd. They care about their standing in the progressive movement. That's all that matters. They're not journalists in any kind of significant way that you think about. They are very clearly democratic apparatchiks. And that's the only measure of success they have. This is really good news.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Really, really good news. They are eating themselves from the inside. They can can't this was 3.3 million viewers cnn needs this kind of traffic they need to go on tv and have a real conversation about what what americans actually want they can't because the cult is holding them down by their ankles. This just means CNN, I hope you're listening, CNN, or if you work there, your company is crumbling because you are a zombie cult. And I don't care.
Starting point is 00:16:32 In fact, I'm ready to crack open that Louis XIII and share a little bottle of fine cognac to celebrate the demise of CNN. I can't wait for it. AOC, Lauren Southerner will mix it with Diet Coke. Yeah, maybe. MTV News just died. BuzzFeed News is over vice is
Starting point is 00:16:45 nearing bankruptcy it's amazing well soros i guess is bailing out vice and now cnn can't even do any it's like i just want to say how funny it is that cnn is desperate saying please help us watch our channel and they finally got something trump and they're like this might save us and the left comes with pitchforks crowbars and baseball struggle session don't engage yeah well and it's like oren said every single move that they make is calculated to boost their own personal social credit score every single one of these people all that matters is that those around them say you were a good progressive you behaved well you did what you were supposed to do you push back properly none of it's about trying to find common ground none of it's about trying to get more information
Starting point is 00:17:27 for their audience about the 2020 election about the russia ukraine conflict about any other relevant issue it's about showing them that i'm good because i don't like trump we are we are closer to nuclear war than we have been since the 60s it is an actual possibility that i mean no one would be completely and utterly shocked if putin launched a couple nuclear uh artillery strikes right in ukraine no one would become it wouldn't be like oh my god that came out of nowhere no they're at war and they've got there's a lot of people dying and that is something that could actually happen i want to tell you what i see when i watch the cnn thing it feels like i went to a skate park and they, and that is something that could actually happen. I want to tell you what I see when I watch a CNN thing. It feels like I went to a skate park.
Starting point is 00:18:08 And they didn't say anything about that. It feels like I'm at a skate park, and there's a bunch of little kids on scooters riding around. And you're like, these kids don't know etiquette. They're going the wrong way. And it's very dangerous, because if you're going fast, you're going to do a big old kickflip. You crash into one of these kids. You get hurt. The kid gets hurt.
Starting point is 00:18:24 That's what I see when I watch CNN. caitlin collins is a really really good example of this it's obvious she has no idea what she's talking about she has no views of her own to actually insert to to debate trump with so instead she's just debating him in a generic and my favorite example is when Trump said that he offered the National Guard to D.C., but it was rejected. She goes, that's not true. Your own Chris Miller said it didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:18:52 It is literally true. She was interrupting Trump, and she was wrong, factually wrong. That's the worst thing. So you have someone, if Caitlin Collins is a pundit of someone who opines on issues and no and has an in-depth view on these things and wanted to push back on trump i'd be
Starting point is 00:19:11 like that's interesting it's a debate but she's supposed to be a moderator and what a moderator does says trump here's a question what do you think interesting how do you respond to this question if if if trump said look you know i, I was offering up National Guard and they didn't want it. They said no. Then you say, well, Chris Miller wrote in his book that you did not authorize the deployment. Then you say, I did offer it to D.C. and they said no.
Starting point is 00:19:36 So there is a difference. And the moderator should then say, okay. Not, nuh-uh. Yeah. Nuh-uh, Seamus. Exactly. It's all about boosting that social credit score and you made a very good point about the fact that there is very high risk of nuclear war any risk is too much risk in some sense but instead of focusing on that in engaging the conversation any questions about it but instead of engaging that question with any level of social responsibility she wanted trump to be as inflammatory and bombastic as possible and instead of focusing on the possibility of nuclear
Starting point is 00:20:11 war the left instead wants to prioritize the fact that you drove your car too many miles last week and that's making the weather angry right like their apocalyptic fears are of things that everyday americans do in order to live their lives and they involve basically no focus on powerful people who are profiting millions even billions of dollars off of these conflicts overseas that we don't need to be involved with which could legitimately result in millions and millions and millions of deaths i i i do want to give a shout out to our friend sunny hostin over at The View for trashing Caitlin Collins over the Trump town hall fiasco. Masterful job.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Wow. I agree with her. Wow. She was surprised. Caitlin Collins exemplified what it means to be a world class journalist. She asked tough, fair questions. CNN sent a statement to the town hall and she followed up with a fact, followed up and fact check Trump in real time to arm voters with crucial information.
Starting point is 00:21:06 That's what CNN is betting on. Activism. To be honest, I didn't like the platform, but I also want to say this because I know she's getting flack from some folks. Kaylin Collins did a masterful job, Griffin noted. Masterful job, wow. As a young woman seeing a 30-year-old journalist take it to one of the most powerful men in the world, Griffinin continued as hossett out snide asides she got in there it's really easy hoss and then proceeded to month uh to monday morning quarterback it well we get it i think i think she did a terrible job and if cnn is betting on that i'm just really excited that's like at least don lemon had some fire in him you
Starting point is 00:21:42 know what i mean like don lemon was a crazy man but he would argue with vivek and you'd be like i can't believe he's actually like but you knew it was coming you knew who he was caitlin collins it's like putting a a mannequin on stage and then like pulling the ripcord and she's like no trump you are wrong well the one difference is she never asked him whatever your ethnicity is well she was scolding him yeah that would have been i mean, I mean, at this point, they just don't understand how to handle. I mean, he doesn't care. He doesn't give them the respect they believe they deserve. They're so inept.
Starting point is 00:22:12 They've never run into anyone who doesn't just automatically genuflect in front of them because they're the media and they're the king makers. And they're the ones that have to be served at any moment because they control your image. And that's what Trump does so well. He has the image. Maybe it's not always a great one. Sometimes he you know wild but he's the one in control he's the one in the driver's seat and it drives them nuts i mean what are they going to do they've called this guy hitler they've called this guy satan are they going to pretend like he had a good performance
Starting point is 00:22:35 so they can pretend like their person did a bad job they've got to lie about it it's the only thing they've got left and that's why they keep looking more and more ridiculous yeah no i wonder how much they pay her, Caitlin Collins. We talked about it last night. It's 77 cents on the dollar for the men they have working there, Tim, and it's a problem, and it's a problem. Well, actually, let me do some quick- Do you know she made significantly less money
Starting point is 00:22:54 than the man she was on stage with last night? Significantly lower net worth overall. Let's do this. Explain that to me. Don Lemon's salary. Because I don't understand why the world works that way. The New York Times in April said Don Lemon's salary was $7 million. All right, let's do Caitlin Collins' salary here.
Starting point is 00:23:15 And Google says $1 to $3 million. So it's worse than $0.77 on the dollar, Seamus. I think that Don Lemon... It's like $0.40 on the dollar. And I'm sure they pull in the exact same numbers for the network. I'd be curious to see how much viewership Don Lemon pulls in as opposed to her. Because this could be a classic example of workplace sexism. And I think Don needs to acknowledge his unearned privilege.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Well, apparently now they're going to give her Cuomo's time slot. Her? It's really sad. She's getting a. That's the. I think that's confirmed, actually. Oh, my. That she's getting the that's the that's i think that's confirmed actually oh my that she's getting the 9 p.m cnn time slot and uh it's just not no like aaron burnett i get like and anderson cooper i get caitlin collins it's like a mannequin on tv it's just like looking at a chunk of plastic
Starting point is 00:24:03 with a with a mouth that goes... There's nothing there. That's how you view women, Tim? No, just like Aaron Burnett actually has like... Sexist animal. But it's not sexist if I compliment another woman in the same sentence. That proves it. No, Tim, I don't think you understand.
Starting point is 00:24:19 It's like I had my fingers crossed. Any time you criticize any person from any group, that means you hate the entire group. Do you understand? Sorry, buddy. You're going to sexist jail. Anytime you criticize any person from any group, that means you hate the entire group. Do you understand? Yeah. Sorry, buddy. You're going to sexist jail. No, I think I was like, I talked about this earlier, like Dana Bash. Like CNN has female personalities and male personalities and you get it.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Kalen Collins, I don't understand. They're just like, help. We need young people. What do we do? Like, this is the best we could do. I don't know. Throw spaghetti at the wall and see what sticks. I want to figure out her ratings as opposed to Don Lemon's ratings
Starting point is 00:24:50 to see if she's getting ripped off. I will negotiate for her. I will go to that network and let them know that she's worth more. Now, Don Lemon's not there anymore. Maybe they couldn't afford him given his ratings. I don't know. But I think it's telling that he makes so much more than her, and he's a man.
Starting point is 00:25:02 He made. But I actually, fair point, I think we do need to every every one of us tweet at cnn and demand they pay caitlin collins exactly what they pay anderson cooper it is not fair it's not fair and and when she takes if she takes over the 9 p.m slot she should get 100 the same amount that cuomo got that's how it works and what was cuomo's salary do we know what cuomo's salary was sham Seamus, I like your turn as the new Gloria Steinem. Thank you. Well, look, someone has to continue the legacy. It's very important.
Starting point is 00:25:29 And what I will say is that according to two different sources, Anderson Cooper's salary is $12 million. I don't want to live in a country where everyone isn't making $12 million a year. Right? Like, remember when Bloomberg spent $500 million dollars on the election to get heckled that was great to get bullied that means there's 300 million people in the united states he could have given every american 1 million dollars remember remember that lady said that you know it's like it's actually a dollar 30 not a million dollars everyone gets a dollar oh my god yeah
Starting point is 00:26:01 well no no i think if cnn doesn't pay caitlin collins 12 million dollars it proves they're sexist that's exactly right then by the way what is the money somewhere i think the average share in the national debt per person is about 200 000 so just to be clear just to be clear with the sum of money that tim just laid out that would give every person one dollar and 30 cents right you want to do the math on confiscating all the wealth from all the billionaires the way they talk about to fund all their social programs. Like, we literally wouldn't even make a dent in the money that we owe. How about we do this? If you want to vote, you have to pay more in taxes than the national debt
Starting point is 00:26:34 per person. Oh, my gosh. You have to pay off your share of the national debt. So if it's $200,000 per person and rising and it's out of your control. You would need to make, what is that? So you'd have to make like $500,000 a year. Well, no, no, no. You just pay off your share of the debt once. Oh, yeah. Good point. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:53 You pay off your share of the debt once, and now you get to vote. I think that's the only. It would be like 10 people voting. All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's get serious. We have this story from the New York Post. This is big news. Daniel Penny to surrender and face second-degreelaughter charge in jordan neely chokehold that's right despite the fact that we have video showing he tried to save the life of this man
Starting point is 00:27:14 despite the fact we know this man had been arrested dozens of times kidnapped a child punched an old man in the face punched a woman in the face we know that he was threatening people on the train and said he didn't care if he got hurt or went to jail three men took it upon themselves to subdue him this guy is going to have to surrender for manslaughter charges up to 15 years in prison i would not be surprised if he is convicted and sentenced to the maximum that's it yeah i wouldn't be surprised if he was convicted uh i would i would hope that the judge wouldn't send some sentence him to the maximum but uh i don't i i would have no faith in in new york's justice system to not considering the pressures
Starting point is 00:27:58 that would come from the activists and the the uh the left it broadly, he's got almost no chance. He wasn't initially even charged. They had to go to a grand jury. It's not like it was obvious. They did not go to a grand jury. Oh, they didn't? They did not go to a grand jury. Nope, they just decided, you know what, I'm going to charge him.
Starting point is 00:28:17 That only makes my opinion of the whole thing worse, and it makes my opinion of the outcome more dire i suppose i don't i don't see this guy getting out of it in in one piece what about activists when on the street pessimistic no i mean i think the only things that are illegal in new york at this point are political opposition self-defense and desecrating the pride flag right like that's the only thing they'll actually hold you accountable for you can't't be surprised. It's, it's a narco tyranny at this point. The whole reason you're out there is you let these people lose. You let them terrorize the average person,
Starting point is 00:28:52 terrorize the population. And then as soon as anyone stands up for themselves, then you go ahead and strike them down, you know, for daring to, you know, take care of themselves and not rely entirely on the state. It's very clear.
Starting point is 00:29:03 The state's not going to do his job. It's not going to protect these people. It's only going to persecute people who they disagree with. And then as soon as you step up and you try to take care of yourself, you're out of there. And I don't understand how anyone's still living in these places at this point. It's horrific. So here's a quote. It's it is stunning that they would make an arrest before presenting this to a grand jury defense attorney and former manhattan prosecutor mark betterow said thursday following news of the charges brag made a political call he now owns this absolutely it's political we all saw this coming we knew it was going kim potter she's the cop who the guy dives into his car and she reaches
Starting point is 00:29:41 for her gun she thought she was tasing him she else tase her but then shoots him and kills him and when that happened we were like oh she's going to prison and she reaches for her gun. She thought she was tasing him. She else tase her, but then shoots him and kills him. And when that happened, we were like, oh, she's going to prison. And she did. She recently got out. We do have a give send go for Daniel Penny's legal defense fund, which is currently at $71,332. I bet if I refresh it, it'll go up. Refresh now $90,000.
Starting point is 00:30:01 See, this defense fund was launched before the charges were announced. Now that they've been announced, it seems that people are flocking to it and giving this man money. And I won't. We were talking about this earlier and I've been talking about this quite a bit. And I talked about this with Kim Potter years ago. Look, I hope this guy gets acquitted. I think it's terrible what they're doing to him. But at a certain point, I'm just wondering why it is that people keep sending their money into burning buildings that where the fires aren't being put out. Like we're talking about the city of New York engulfed in figurative flames and people being like, I'm going to go walk in there. And you're like, no, dude, like, come on, seriously, man,
Starting point is 00:30:37 don't go in there. Like, no, I'm going to go in there. Like if you go in there, you're going to get burned. I'm going to go in there. Then they walk in, start screaming, help, help. I'm on fire. Like, I'm not going to go in that building. I just think I think it's ridiculous at this point. So here's what ends up happening. People on the right, libertarians, post liberals, disaffected liberals send money to the defense of people who are choosing to live in places where we know they will destroy you unjustly. And it drains resources from us. It takes money from you. And that's resources from us. It takes money from you. And that's probably on purpose.
Starting point is 00:31:06 It's like the villain when the superhero is like, I'm Superman and you can't stop me. And then the Joker is like, oh, yeah, and then points the weapon at the kid. And then Superman's like, oh, no, now you've got me because I care about other people. This is what they're doing. They're holding us hostage, keeping us off base by targeting innocent people and threatening them with 15 years in prison. But look, it's tough. I don't want this guy going to jail i think he was doing the right thing protecting other people and clearly these two other guys agreed with him and helped him subdue this guy but at what point the passengers thanked him and right and then he tried to save the guy's life but at
Starting point is 00:31:39 what point are we going to be like we can't keep throwing money at people who choose to live in communist jurisdictions. I mean, you see this all the time. You see these videos and people all say, why isn't anyone stepping up? You watch someone harassing a homeless person or some crazy person attacking people, getting violent with people. And they're like, why aren't the men stepping in? Why aren't they taking action? And this is the answer. Everyone understood what was going to happen here, especially again, due to the racial dynamic. Let's be really honest. This guy's white. The guy who died is black. And that's all that mattered before anything else. That's all that
Starting point is 00:32:08 mattered. That's what everyone saw. It's what all the liberals were acting on. And this guy had to be held accountable because they're going to hold this guy up as being murdered. They're already talking about, oh, he's a really kind guy. He's having a lot of mental health troubles as a very sweet person who's performing on the subway with Michael Jackson impersonator. No, he's a you know a very sweet person who's you know performing on the subway with michael jackson impersonator no he's a violent criminal who had felony charges out against him it's very clear that he's a threat to everyone around him the city made sure that he was still in public and as soon as anyone stood up to him they're in terrible trouble i know that people want to stay in these areas i understand i have a lot of friends who say we have to stay in these areas because this is where culture happens this is where decisions happens but at this point i don't
Starting point is 00:32:44 know how you say yeah you have you're gonna have a family here where you know that they're encouraging violence and you know that it's illegal for you to defend yourself i mean how can you you just can't exist in this place and culture is dying disney is losing subscribers by the millions and your vote doesn't matter in places like new york city but if you move to a suburb of new york or even you know a swing state move to ohio move to georgia and go to a suburb of New York or even, you know, a swing state, move to Ohio, move to Georgia and go to a suburban area that desperately needs your vote. And that's the front line of what's going on. What's happening now is people are like, I'm going to choose to stay behind enemy lines
Starting point is 00:33:15 and then ask you for resources. And it's just like, dude, you know, you know what I want to donate to? I want to donate to a small business in Georgia right now. I want to donate to i want to donate to a small business in georgia right now i want to donate to scott pressler i don't want this guy going to prison but it's like how do we have to allocate funds to a guy who's like captured effectively but chose to go there and is not doing anything in terms of winning a culture war y'all who are in these cities i know it's hard but if you move to ohio and move to a suburban area that was purple and shifted everything red we would be winning instead there are people who are choosing to live in places like new york and
Starting point is 00:33:51 then being surprised this is happening if you live in new york city i mean i'm not sure exactly how far away the corner of pennsylvania is but i know it's a you know like an hour and a half or something like that it's possible you could move to pennsylvania and still work in new york if you got to stay there but get out of the cities i mean i moved to new hampshire a decade and change ago um because i wanted to get out of western massachusetts because i didn't want you know the laws that massachusetts had and massachusetts at the time was not nearly the place that it is now so i mean you're in control of your own life you can't control what your neighbors are voting for you can't control what your neighbors are voting for. You can't control what the people down the street are voting for.
Starting point is 00:34:29 You can control where you live. Get out of cities and make sure that you are taking care of you and your family. Yeah. If you think you're going to be the person who saves Illinois or New York or California, just know that you're liable to have this happen to you or one of your children or to have your children be put on puberty blockers and taken from you mutilated in new york city there are violent protests against this man against him people are not protesting for him they are marching violently and attacking cops because they hate him i do not see that as a
Starting point is 00:35:04 salvageable place no one in new york likes what he did the people of new york like this you see the video of the woman getting punched in the face she tells the guy take a chill pill and he clocks her clean in the face that was two years ago 2022 comes around they vote for it again what are we supposed to do just tell him like, keep doing it. Nah, look. Obviously, the woman got punched in the face, did not want to get
Starting point is 00:35:29 punched in the face. But she'll still vote for the same policies. Obviously, the woman in San Francisco who was dragged to death did not want that to happen to her.
Starting point is 00:35:38 She was robbed. She chased after the people who robbed her. They murdered her. Her friend was on her way to her vigil. She got mercilessly beaten and curb stomped literally they stomped on her head on a curb but these people despite these
Starting point is 00:35:50 things will come out and be like i feel bad for the perpetrator how many times have we heard these leftists come out and and apologize for the person who victimized them like at a certain point these cities are just not salvageable. It's been years of this. So we need to be on the front line winning a culture war. And that means getting your family somewhere where your vote matters substantially more. It doesn't matter in New York or San Francisco. Are you going to donate, James? Well, thanks for putting me on the spot.
Starting point is 00:36:22 I don't know. Yeah, looking at his legal fund, I'd have to look into it. But I think it's I think it's a worthy cause. I hear what you're saying. These places are incredibly dangerous. If I had a family, I absolutely would not stay in New York. Now, I understand this is easy for me to say because I'm not tied to a career in a particular area. But I also know people who have moved out of cities in order to protect their family.
Starting point is 00:36:41 And that's supposed to be your number one priority. The reason in truth, right? If you're a married a married person well what's the point of your career if not to support your kids and if you have to stay in an area where your kids are going to be harmed in order to have your career i think it's obvious that it's not worth it i have a friend that i was just talking to today that lives in in the city and he's going to get uh trying to get a permit to carry i'm he knows that he's probably not going to get it in the city but he's trying to get, trying to get a permit to carry. He knows that he's probably not going to get it in the city, but he's trying to get it for Nassau County. But anyways, he went and he had the class today
Starting point is 00:37:09 and he was talking to the instructor and they were going down the list of the laws and what is and is not acceptable or legal in New York. And he was totally unaware that essentially he couldn't defend his own life in new york he was unaware that if he shot someone that was in his home in his home armed if he shot them and he didn't kill them that they would sue him and they would probably win and that the family even if he did kill him the family was going to sue him has no idea your average voter is unaware of the circumstances that they live in so again it's one thing to be like oh
Starting point is 00:37:49 i want to be in the city etc you should probably check out the laws in your area you should be aware of the voting record of your the prosecution record of your da before you vote for the da you should probably be aware of who your da is before you vote for them um and if you're in a city it's probably too late but when you when you actually decide to get out and go to another place be aware of the people that are running so the new place that you go to doesn't turn into the garbage place that you left let me let me jump to this story here about another crime that took place in new york city homeless man charged with hate crimes for defecating on pride flags at manhattan eatery they're trying to give him the maximum sentence blasphemy laws yep they said that uh him taking a dump on a pride flag and wiping his butt with it
Starting point is 00:38:38 was a hate crime and intolerance you know i think i think he's just some homeless guy was looking for a place to take a dump that's it and they're like're like, why didn't you use napkins? And I'm like, I don't know that he was thinking at all. Why did the guy in the subway platform push the woman into the front of the train? Why did he murder her? I mean, these people aren't well. When it comes to the guy in the train who was desperate and hungry, what did AOC say? It should not be a death sentence for this man who was just hungry and unwell. It's the city's fault. Is this man not hungry and unwell when he pooped on a pride flag?
Starting point is 00:39:12 So I mentioned this the other day. Whenever it comes to an act of senseless violence, a million and one different excuses are made, and we have to go into a deep socioeconomic analysis of what could have led that person who we think is a criminal but is truly a victim to feel that they needed to commit that disordered act. And then, of course, when you speak out against the party, you're not afforded that same luxury. They don't make a million and one excuses. They don't play mental gymnastics to make what you did seem okay within their framework because we just never funded that inner city library that would have educated you and made you a more enlightened
Starting point is 00:39:48 functioning member of society and in part it's because when you go out against the narrative because they're single-minded that means you are responsible for all of the world's ills the reason violent crime happens is because we're not allocating our resources properly and under the religion of marx, simply moving material things around in the material world solves all of the problems. Let's put the wealth here instead of there. And then there won't be any more crime. We'll stop it all from happening.
Starting point is 00:40:13 And because you're not on board with that, you're responsible for every violent act. So by simply criticizing the party, by doing what he did in disgracing or desecrating an LGBTQ flag, he is contributing to serious violence this is actually how their minds work because he's taking away from the credibility of their philosophy which will fix everything if we just let it take a look at this story from daily mail cleaver wielding
Starting point is 00:40:37 convict terrorizes bart train passengers trapped in underwater tunnel by pacing up and down train threatening them then slashing man in the back if only we built that inner city library if you try in any way to stop this man you will go to prison you must allow him to chop you into pieces before you try to defend yourself well we saw that literally with the gulag archipelelago. Every society has something they hold sacred. There's no escaping this. We all do it. Every society does this.
Starting point is 00:41:11 And we pretend like we're beyond it. We pretend like we've advanced beyond this behavior. No, you haven't. You will have something sacred. And for us, it is this diversity, equity, and inclusion. It is the pride flag.
Starting point is 00:41:20 It is the racial hierarchy. Not for us. These are the things. But increasingly, it is. For a cult. I think it is becoming the values of the nation. I think it is the racial hierarchy for us these are the things but but increasingly it is i think i think it is becoming the values of the nation i think it is becoming the values of almost every institution from the military to the media look obviously i'm against this stuff but i think it's hard to pretend like this hasn't not now come to dominate the vast majority i know i i think i think you're wrong i think budweiser proves the people of this country do not hold these things
Starting point is 00:41:44 sacred at all that's that's the difference though you're you're you're correct. I think Budweiser proves the people of this country do not hold these things sacred at all. That's the difference, though. You're correct. It's not a grassroots popular thing. It's totally astroturfed. And you're right. It's coming from the institutions because the people that are going to school and graduating and going on to be CEOs and stuff, they're bringing this into the boardroom with them. There was a long time where people thought
Starting point is 00:42:06 kids were going to go to school, they were going to do this stuff in sociology and in the humanities, and then they would get out into the real world and the real world would fix them. Well, guess what? They're bringing it into the boardroom and they're putting it into the HR departments
Starting point is 00:42:17 and making it the standard culture in broader society. And culture is downstream from power. It does not matter what the average person thinks. It does not matter what the average person thinks. It does not matter what the masses think. It matters who the influential people, the tastemakers, the institutions, the power brokers,
Starting point is 00:42:35 it matters what they think because they then inform what people think. How popular was transing kids five years ago? Oh, not at all. Just five years ago, it didn't exist right and now it's everywhere it's the dominant dominant thing it's the center of the cultural battle why is it because 70 of america suddenly decided they really cared about mutilating children
Starting point is 00:42:57 no it's because they were told what to care about and so but i think it was actually because people on the right started pushing back against it and then the left started widely promoting it in in popular media well it's complicated right because this is what the left none of this stuff they'll force something onto the general culture just as you've mentioned very powerful people will start pushing this stuff they'll put it on television they'll promote it on social media they'll have the algorithm orient people towards this kind of content that normalizes this truly abhorrent disgusting perverted behavior in the abuse of children and then when normal healthy people who aren't just going to go along with what the culture tells them they should believe say that's
Starting point is 00:43:39 sick because that is the mutilation of children their response is why do you care so much why do you care so much people are always going to be trans people have been trans you know etc etc but your average have an answer what when someone says why you care so i do have an answer i do have an answer to that question i'm saying for the average person listen oh yeah yeah know your answer absolutely absolutely and you should be able to have an answer to that question but my point is that they play this game where they make something an issue and then they ask why you're paying attention to it. Well, they create the problem because they believe they have the solution. And because the dialectic gets advanced that way, right? Because now you need to
Starting point is 00:44:17 moderate it. Okay. You didn't even have a position on this before, but now you need a more moderate position so you can find some kind of consensus inside a dialectic that was created for you artificially. So this wasn't even, you didn't need to have this debate. And now it's essentially you for not only to have this debate, but to move your position in that debate closer to whatever the progressive position is. And that is a key thing that people have to understand. And that's why conservatives end up letting go of cultural ground. Because what happens is first people understand that like marriage between a man and a woman for the purposes of procre procreation well now contraceptive starts to become normalized and conservatives start to fight
Starting point is 00:44:48 that and then people start talking about gay marriage and okay now fighting contraceptive seems outdated we're going to try to fight gay marriage now people have decided that two men can be married even though that's literally impossible given the definition of the term but now they're saying that we can trans children a man can become a woman if you go over there and you try to fight that well now again they're pushing it on to kids so conservatives jump from fight to fight to fight to fight because the left keeps setting new fires i got a question for you guys if uh uh if an antifa guy was on a subway and it happened to him that some guy like started beating the crap out of him and then he got into a fight and i was getting arrested how would you feel wait can you repeat
Starting point is 00:45:22 that like the antifa guy wearing an Antifa shirt is on a train and some guy's threatening people and the guy in the Antifa shirt grabs the guy and subdues him and gets arrested for it. How do you feel? I feel about the same way. So you would donate to the Antifa guy's defense fund? I'm not donating to his.
Starting point is 00:45:41 No, no, I wouldn't. People listening, I'd love to hear your thoughts. If there was a guy wearing a Bernie Sanders 2024 or a Joe Biden, Biden-Harris 2024 shirt, and he grabbed this guy because the guy was on the train threatening people, would you donate to them? That's a good question. I mean, if he was an Antifa, I wouldn't need to donate to him
Starting point is 00:46:03 because no one would try to press charges. I'm saying if they did. My point is you get these people who live in these cities and there's an 85 percent chance this guy is a Democrat voter. And everyone's like, quick, quick, quick, give him give him money. And I'm like, I mean, maybe is he a guy who actually believes in American values, who is fighting for those values? Or is it the overwhelming likelihood, 85%, that somebody who lives in these cities, especially after we've seen the mass exodus from moderates and conservatives, the likelihood is even greater this is some Biden voter who is getting what he voted for? No, I mean, I hear you. I'm 100% behind the right having legal defense funds and standing up for people. I think that's a level of infrastructure that absolutely has to happen. But you have to use that wisely. You can't just throw it for people who are in, you know, like I said, putting yourself in that situation, likely political enemies, you should be putting it towards people who you know are going to be using it properly. So I'm generally in favor of these organizations existing people making these kind of donations, but you do have to be thinking about what you're actually applying that to people can give whatever they want um i hope this guy does not go to prison i hope he wins i'm glad people are supporting him i'm
Starting point is 00:47:08 just saying at what point are we going to be like look i'll put it this way i left new york a long time ago because a black supremacist murdered some cops and i said i am not going to live in a place that is like this i am not going to have my tax dollars go to a city one of the it's it's the one of the only cities with income tax and one of the highest income taxes for a resident in the country, in the world. And then I'm in the Jersey side. Someone plants bombs. And I'm like, OK, better not be in this place. But we end up in a place where we're at in the tri-state.
Starting point is 00:47:36 The tri-state area and the eastern panhandle of West Virginia is moderately purple for the area. You've got Maryland, which, of is a is a major battleground and and very left very democrat and then the eastern panhandles is maybe surprising people but west virginia the schools are very very woke and they're trying to indoctrinate kids so now i feel pretty good about where i'm at i feel safe i have constitutional carry but we're in a local jurisdiction where there's actually some serious concerns with the school board and recently the gop was talking about despite the fact that they've won the school board, they still have this woke stuff that they're trying to push out
Starting point is 00:48:08 because this is a key battleground. Now my concern is, are we giving money to Democrats who voted for this because we're not paying attention and we assume because this guy did a good thing that he is a good guy? I mean, if it turns out this guy doesn't really live there, he just moved there,
Starting point is 00:48:23 and he's a big Trump supporter, and he's been fighting against this stuff and he's been posting about it. I'll be like, OK, this is this guy needs help. Kyle Rittenhouse is in a suburban area. He was in he was in a split area politically, and he was there as an innocent kid trying to help clean up his neighborhood, actively fighting for his neighborhood and trying to help even the protesters. And that was years ago. And we're like, OK, now it's several years on and we're immediately knee jerk jumping to the defense of a guy we don't know who could turn out to be the biggest Joe Biden supporter who voted for all of this. And that's my concern. Giving money to the people who are making the problem happen. If you live in New York, especially after the summer of love riots, especially after Chauvin, Ahmaud Arbery, Kim Potter, et cetera, especially after even the 25 people being shoved in front
Starting point is 00:49:11 of trains, the likelihood is not that this person is someone who believes in our values and is going to be fighting for them. The likelihood is it's just some default liberal guy who's supporting Joe Biden. So I'll wait and I'll see. You know, we'll see how this plays out. But that's my biggest concern. Are we as people who want to push back, who are buying Jeremy's chocolate, who are who are buying Jeremy's razors, then going to donate to Democrats when they get themselves in trouble? Are we going to be the people who are contributing to the bail funds of of Antifa far left extremists? When Kamala Harris and Joe Biden's staff raised money for the far left rioters, we were we are like, this is abhorrent. How this is ridiculous. How
Starting point is 00:49:49 dare you do this? So my question now is, when you get people who live in these cities, the overwhelming likelihood that they support these things. So what is what is at issue right now? Is it that we assume he must not support these things because he tried to subdue a crazy person? I don't necessarily believe that. The woman who got punched in the face clearly didn't want to get punched in the face. But you know she votes Democrat. This pink-haired hippie lady who lives in New York City.
Starting point is 00:50:15 It's a 90% chance she did. And you go and talk to these people and you ask them, like, are you going to vote Democrat? They'll say yes. What about the rising crime? They'll say, I don't care. Or that woman in San Francisco who said, I will never call the police. And then she gets murdered. Are we going to donate to people like that?
Starting point is 00:50:30 I don't know, man. It's tough. I don't find any significant flaw with what you're saying. Like, personally, I don't see a whole lot of reason to donate to people that live in cities. Like you say, it's like they're there. They stay there. That's what they're asking for that's what they want most people again aren't aware of the aren't even aware of their situation so i i don't see a big reason to to argue with you about it i mean look
Starting point is 00:50:58 we'll see people are saying that he's from long island he's a marine he's probably not a democrat and it's like okay you know like let's let's let's see what he has to say. When he put out a statement, he his lawyer could have put out a statement that said something like New York has seen violent crime escalating rapidly for several years
Starting point is 00:51:13 and the people of the city are tired of it. When this man violently threatened the passengers of this train, Daniel, our client, Daniel Penny, along with two others,
Starting point is 00:51:22 found it reasonable to try and subdue him to protect the lives of others. Did they do that? No. They said it's so sad and unfortunate that people are suffering in this city. They gave a woke statement that many conservatives started complaining about on Twitter. But now they're willing to throw money at these people who are just giving this like default tepid response. I just think, I don't know man don't don't don't
Starting point is 00:51:47 look at me i don't have all the answers y'all can do what you want you know yeah i'm surprised he hasn't come out and said anything at all if he were to come out and he didn't he will did he justify his position no yeah they they the the statement they issued on his behalf was just lamenting the poor homeless of new york city I will say the point of that statement, though, is to try to diffuse the protesters. Yeah, as opposed to... So, I mean, it may not be... Well, that's what he's trying to do. And to be honest with you, if you're in that situation,
Starting point is 00:52:13 I get a dude who's not really engulfed in the culture war. I can get why he'd be like, yo, what am I supposed to do to calm people down and get myself out of that? There is the... Again again people don't know what they you know people don't know the laws that they live under most of the time they don't realize what laws get passed uh and they don't pay a whole lot of attention to politics they should absolutely i'm not saying that you know their ignorance is is uh is fine or whatever but at
Starting point is 00:52:40 the same time it's like he's probably got no idea what he's gotten himself into and he's like what do i do to make this go away and so it's often there's just no connection with these people i live down in florida and we get all these people down from new york come down they move they can't believe what's happened to new york they don't want to live there anymore they're finally out of there but what's the first thing they do when they come down to florida oh i can't believe what desantis is doing i can't believe all these things that you're living here i can't believe your politics are like this is like there's no connection they don't they genuinely do not understand how one thing leads to the next they just come down and think
Starting point is 00:53:12 oh well there's some kind of magical reason that this place is safer there was that viral thread where a guy from san francisco was like we moved to florida because the crime was getting too bad and then someone said just you know don't don't vote democrat and then some leftist was like you're going to support desantis and his response was immediately to be like no no i'm left wing and i'm going to vote democrat oh my gosh well this is part of the complexity here right so you were mentioning earlier that we want people to leave these cities if they're you know an at all decent person but then when people leave and they end up voting for the same policies it makes everything worse in the states they go to and i know ideally you would have conservatives leaving new york and
Starting point is 00:53:48 going to a place like florida but i'm sorry a new york conservative is not the same as a florida i do think that the the the viewership of of tim cast is probably the kind of people that we're talking to it matters i i don't expect that people that would be you know tuning into tim cast and say you know what tim's right i'm gonna move would be the kind of people that would be like oh now i'm completely gonna vote i was in i was in chicago i had a couple hundred bucks and i just left now and i went to i went to california and i was just like i'm i'm leaving this place crime corruption police were were uh like all the stories a cop choke slams a woman because a meter made the the police are operating black sites and i'm like i definitely don't want to be here and so
Starting point is 00:54:33 i'm gonna get out and granted i was 23 is easy for a 23 year old but there was a lot of risk i was planning on being homeless and i got i got lucky in finding a place and meeting some people i got to sleep on a couch periodically and sleep on a floor i'm just saying like at this point we've already seen most people flee to florida and now ronda santos is winning by a million votes people fled to texas that's where the biggest uh influx of new american of of migrants was american internal where they call it net migration people fled california they fled new york i don't know why we care so much about these places new york and california you know what i mean like the the corruption is off the charts like that you've gotten san francisco cleaver wielding convict terrorizing
Starting point is 00:55:15 the train aoc is not saying anything about this did she come out and say like we really got to stop these people terrorizing citizens like no i don't know at a certain point i'm like bro you reap what you sow you live there you live there well what aoc has said is we need a national railway system and i can't wait to see how safe and wonderful that is it'll be really good news when all those people from new york can get right to florida in just a moment so i really appreciate that that'll be awesome so i get one of the one of the nice things about the united states one of the things that makes it work is that we can be far away from you guys they keep saying that's kind of nice they keep saying we need a nationwide rail service and i keep saying why because they want to get out of
Starting point is 00:55:52 planes exactly well they want to get rid of planes they want to get rid of automobiles they want you to have zero privacy or autonomy you got to be on the mass transit so you have to be on the the large uh mass high-speed railway system with the rambling homeless person who's swinging a machete at people yeah maybe that's it for real though no it is a lot of a lot of subway crime has been popping up in all of these cities and they want to take away your ability to have a car they want to put you in this and take away your ability to defend yourself which is the whole point of prosecuting this guy. I think they might just want you to die.
Starting point is 00:56:28 You know what I mean? I mean, you are the carbon that they want to eliminate. I mean, if you're going to have a total state, if you're going to have a totalitarian state, you got to get rid of individuality and communities. You got to get rid of the autonomy that little regional communities provide, the ability of people to get away. You have to make everybody dependent on the system.
Starting point is 00:56:44 So yeah, I think that's absolutely. You have to convince people that the senate is is uh undemocratic and good i'm glad more undemocracy please as much as we can you have to you know exactly why they want to get rid of oh i know the senate it's not like it's going to be some kind of positive thing if they were to get rid of the senate um but they you know that the point of getting rid of the senate is because they want to you know they don't want to have states that are individuated and have have autonomy and stuff that to the progressives is bad so yeah i wonder if if a lot you know these people are malthusian they think there's too many people they want to get rid of them i wonder if a lot of these policies aren't necessarily about individually
Starting point is 00:57:20 killing any person it's about creating a net pressure, which results in the long-term with a declining population. I mean, they don't have to do that. That's already happening. They don't, the social engineering is already getting them there. If they did it right, then that's the point. That's what I'm saying. Like, are these policies put in place for the reason of creating a pressure, which results in a lower population? The thing is, I don't even know. I don't think it's that well thought out. I just think that society is a thing that people have to constantly work to upkeep and progress. So it's not something that someone just built for us
Starting point is 00:57:52 and then left here and we can allow to sit. It has to constantly be upkept by people living virtuous lives. And when you don't want to live a virtuous life, you just rationalize that. And when you try to rationalize that in a wide scale political sense, you just call it leftism. So all these policies are, are people attempting to rationalize the abdication of their responsibility to uphold our society and culture.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Well, I can, I can put another way for you, Seamus. There was this TV show where they were tracking fat women and it was like, why are, why are they fat or whatever? And this woman's like, I have a glandular problem. And then what they did was they filmed her throughout the day and they were like at the end of they said how much how many calories do you think you ate and she was like probably 1200 for i had a light breakfast with just some eggs for lunch i had a salad and for dinner i had you know small steak and they were like you had 4763 calories like what and then they showed the video of her grabbing cookies and candies and snack cakes and stuff like that all throughout the day.
Starting point is 00:58:48 And that, to me, is the rationalization of, it's just one cupcake. Yes. It's only 150 calories to have one cupcake. It doesn't matter. And then you do it 100 times. Well, yeah, exactly. And that's how vice works, right?
Starting point is 00:59:01 When a person builds virtue, they're not going, ah, only one. You don't have to rationalize it in that way. So what ends up happening is there are people who are doing things, anything, spending money in bad ways, and they're saying, what's the big deal? You know, it's only a little bit, but those grains of seed add up. And when society as a whole partakes to a certain degree in vice, this is what you get. Exactly. partakes to a certain degree in vice this is what you get exactly and you know mercy for the criminal
Starting point is 00:59:28 is in many ways violence against the person who the criminal harmed or or will go on to harm if you let them be and so it starts small and it look it's good to be compassionate we want to have understanding for people we want to learn how to correct this behavior it's not all about punishment however we have consistently over the past 50 to 100 years just slowly shifted in the direction of having a lot of mercy and understanding towards those who commit crimes and absolutely no compassion for those who are victimized by those people and that's how you get to this point i mean just you chip away at it slowly yeah gk chesterson said every great every high society dies by forgetting uh basic things and it's really simple like you understand that you obviously have to keep law and order that you have to have families that you have to have
Starting point is 01:00:15 productive society but every time you just let one little thing slide you let one little thing go it can't really be that bad a little more freedom a little more liberation right but you understand what that thing was holding up you don't really understand the fence that was sitting there protecting you from something. And as you continue to disassemble those things, it just, you know, you don't even notice. You don't even notice that the frog is boiling until it's too late. It's like property rights and property crimes. If you don't, you know, if you don't prosecute property crimes, you end up with your retailers leaving your city, which is exactly what's going on in San Francisco now. It's probably going on in multiple cities. I think
Starting point is 01:00:52 it's going on in New York as well. There might be shutting down stores, but I know that it's happening in San Francisco. If you don't protect the rights of the peaceful law-abiding citizens, then they're going to leave. and that's exactly what's happening in san francisco right now you alter time preference right why do i need to defer gratification here and why would it make sense for me to if all the wealth i build up is going to be stolen yeah oh yeah obviously yeah you've got people leaving then your tax basically your your your businesses leave which is happening your tax base leaves and then you end up with detroit but that's probably what they want i mean possibly these things all result in population decline well they also result in populations that are easier to rule right a population that is obsessed with
Starting point is 01:01:34 vice and has no uh autonomy has no ability to take care of themselves is much easier to enforce your will on and that's a key aspect of it as well short time preference as well if you if you have longer term time preferences to things like kids and your future what you're you're paying attention to short time preferences you're thinking about you know partying and stuff like that the immediacy of gratification and stuff yeah civilization is indistinguishable from time preference it's yeah the same thing so what's your advice to the people in san francisco who are on a train with a guy wielding a cleaver, screaming and then slashing a guy? You try to boost his time preference, you know?
Starting point is 01:02:10 Try to lower his time preference, you know? You'd feel a lot better if you waited a week before slashing somebody. Trust me. Really. Yes. Just got to sit him down, have a conversation with him. I know that a drag queen never read a book to you as a child, all right? But we're going to try to fix that brokenness now.
Starting point is 01:02:25 That's what we're really talking about in the end. How can we get more drag queen story hours for homeless people? That's it. That's the only way. If only more dudes dressed. That'll fix it. If only more dudes dressed. That would fix it, but not in the way that it would be.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Oh, my gosh. Yeah, not in the right direction, unfortunately. If only more men in dresses were reading to children yeah that that would that would fix that would fix everything talking about drag queens that's accurate don't get all saying that i'm transphobic or anything out there yeah where do we go from here i don't know is this this it's all over chicken well no it's not donald trump 2024 look it's not i think people people got to be able to look outside of their own culture civilization it's not the end of the world it could be the end of america it's i mean like
Starting point is 01:03:14 it looks like it's almost certainly the end of these cities but maybe not maybe they bounce back i can't tell you for sure uh you know could be going to arrest everybody you think so i think donald trump needs to get elected. And then we need to see his new AG just file criminal subpoenas across the board for bureaucrats, members of Congress, local politicians. Just go in, scoop them all up, lock them in a box. Yeah. You wonder. I like the box part.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Yeah. Where where criminal activity is proven. I'm saying I'm not saying arbitrarily just arrest people but why not let's do that no i'm saying like let's do that i know tyt wants that clip right i'm saying if a politician was was peddling influence to massive multinational corporations selling out their local water supply polluting it and this is something that the young turks and leftists should be on board with. If there are criminal elements in government that are selling out the working class and the people, they need to be criminally charged.
Starting point is 01:04:09 They need to stand trial and then get locked up when proven beyond a reasonable doubt. But isn't it strange? Isn't it strange that wanting the same consequences for political leaders and oligarchs that you want for the average person makes you an extremist? Wanting rule of law to apply across the board. But it's because the people who are doing these things and have power own the likes of the new york times or the washington post and or politico and they're going to say oh uh what did tim pool say he's people who are criminals with power should be
Starting point is 01:04:38 arrested he's far right well and this is the thing right people talk about authoritarianism i mean the problem with with authoritarianism or what we usually refer to as authoritarianism because that term has been completely bastardized is not that there are too many rules or that authority is strong it's that those in a position of authority do not have the law apply to them right that's the real issue that we're talking about people are able to make rules that they enforce upon other people that they are not held to themselves and that's exactly the situation in the united states of america today though i will say of course there are entire classes of people who don't have the rules applied to them
Starting point is 01:05:12 who are supposedly lower on the hierarchy in terms of economic well-being but have a higher social credit score because of neo-maoism can i can i bring some good news in the conversation that's what it is right it's a new revolution. These people are not privileged and therefore they're above you on our new social hierarchy. The whole thing would... The green lead forward. Go ahead, Richard. I was going to say,
Starting point is 01:05:30 I want to bring some good news into this conversation. Is that okay with you guys? Yeah. From NBC, HSBC downgrades Anheuser-Busch InBev as it deals with a bud-like crisis.
Starting point is 01:05:41 That's right. Their stock has been downgraded. What they're saying is, yeah, this could be bad. They're saying that what Anheuser-Busch is saying about the bud-like crisis is not true. It's worse than they're letting on. Buy the dip. I'm having a good... Buy the dip.
Starting point is 01:05:57 You're giving financial advice? I'm totally kidding. I'm not giving financial advice. And don't do that. Don't support that. This is moral advice. Do not support them as a company. So here's what I think. They downgraded the stock to a hold, meaning don't buy, don't sell, just don't buy it. That sends a signal in my mind with the bad PR and the downgrading,
Starting point is 01:06:17 people are going to sell like crazy. Because I got to be honest, if I had a million bucks in Anheuser-Busch or something like that, or tens of thousands of dollars, I'd have long time ago i'd have been like get me out of here and i'd buy cores i'm not telling you what i'm saying that's what i do cores is up 20 you don't want to miss that gravy train but now they're downgrading it yo anheuser-busch is in some trouble right now i should have had the foresight to invest in the other beer stock and a lot of people did started as soon as it happened there i bet a lot of people are like oh we as it happened, I bet a lot of people were like, oh, what? Or just shorting Bud Light. Again, not financial advice. It's a good idea, though.
Starting point is 01:06:49 I bet there's a lot of people who just became extremely wealthy. I was talking about this with stocks, right? I read the news all day, every day. How did we not know to invest in Coors? You know what I mean? It's like, oh, wait, Anheuser-Busch is taking a big hit.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Their rivals are going to skyrocket. I'm going to buy some. As far as Anheuser-Busch goes, I mean? It's like, oh, wait, Anheuser-Busch is taking a big hit. Their rivals are going to skyrocket. I'm going to buy some. As far as Anheuser-Busch goes, I mean, now, honestly, it is not a bad idea to, I mean, again, not financial advice, but like, you know, shorting Bud Light right now or Anheuser-Busch right now. Might make you some money. It helps, you know, it adds to the pressure that they're experiencing because, you know, you get enough short sellers and it can really affect the price of a stock.
Starting point is 01:07:28 So if it's already on the way down, I'm sure there are people that are shorting it currently. I'm not sure what kind of pressure it is. You can find that kind of stuff on TradingView and stuff. What if in a few months the stock is just completely wiped out? It's a penny stock. Yeah. Because nobody wants to hold it. Because people are like, I don't know, man.'t no one's buying it no one wants to buy this
Starting point is 01:07:49 product dude i was laughing so hard you and i we were talking about this in the show a little while how uh anheuser-busch had sent a bunch of complimentary cases of bud light to different distributors because they thought that that would be a way of apologizing what we said was like no people actually don't want to be seen drinking it they're not no one's concerned with bud light is it's too expensive okay like people don't want to be seen with the beer and then i saw an article that was published the other day i was like ah it backfired it turns out people don't want to be seen with bud light that's the issue now the viral video from fenway where nobody was lining up to buy like the bud light stand was completely like nobody was shopping the beer was all there the brand brand is honestly really, really damaged because dudes are going to look at their buddy
Starting point is 01:08:29 and be like, you got the gay one. That's what they're going to say. It's the small little joke, and Bud Light does not have a flavor profile that demands you buy Bud Light. It don't matter. When you buy the Bud Light and your buddy goes, you're going to suck a blah blah blah too or something like that,
Starting point is 01:08:49 that's it. It's over. But hold on. Imagine this. A young college age dude goes to a bar with his buddies and he wants to pick up some chicks. The question is right now, a serious question, how will they feel if they're doing it with a bud light
Starting point is 01:09:05 is the chick gonna be like the girl's gonna be like oh i'm i'm i'm cis you just remember remember i'm normal it's it's such a small thing though because it's just the oh what if someone laughs it's all it is that thought right there will change people's behavior patterns way faster than, than, you know, people telling you don't do this. Any amount of finger wagging. If I grab this,
Starting point is 01:09:35 my buddy's going to laugh at me and everyone at the bar or at the party in the social setting is going to see that I'm the butt of the joke. Let me get the, let me get the cores. is going to see that i'm the butt of the joke let me get the let me get the cores that's it's that simple and this this is such a beautiful thing because it shows how much more valuable memes are than rational arguments i'm not even joking you're right like like i'm sorry but feelings care way more than your facts it's it's just way better in actually winning a culture war scenario because here's the beautiful thing about this. Bud Light, Anaheim's Bush is in this hellacious position because they, because due to the
Starting point is 01:10:10 corporate pressure, because they have to please all the progressives, they know they can't back down. But they also, but they also know that they've lost the culture war here. They know that they've now been graded this status that is an insult to the average American. And so now they're trapped in this hard place where any attempt to recover their image will burn them with their corporate betters, with Wall Street, with the investment class. But anything that they do to try to recover that image
Starting point is 01:10:34 is just gonna doom them, but they also are just gonna continue to hemorrhage money if they don't do something. And this exemplifies perfectly what you were saying earlier about the fact that the elite have an entirely different set of morals that they want to push out of the general public. And often what happens is they overestimate the degree to which the peons are willing to buy into their nonsense. And so even though they would say it's good and it's tolerant and it's wonderful to celebrate the LGBTQ agenda, of course, your average person doesn't want to.
Starting point is 01:11:03 And it's not just a question of whether they're willing to let other people do it because by drinking a Bud Light you're saying I celebrate this personally and people don't want to do that you know what I'm sick of y'all bigots you know what I'm gonna do you know what I'm gonna do I am going to produce a Bud Light
Starting point is 01:11:20 pro Bud Light pro Dylan Mulvaney YouTube video where we're gonna go around and tell people please support Dylan Mulvaney by drinking a Bud Light, pro Bud Light, pro Dylan Mulvaney YouTube video where we're going to go around and tell people, please support Dylan Mulvaney by drinking a Bud Light, and then I'm going to pay to run it as a commercial on Facebook and YouTube to show that Bud Light is the beer
Starting point is 01:11:35 for the LGBT community. You should do it. You should see what happens. And then, you know, I think the left should agree with that and say, thank you for this promotion. And then regular people will say i'm not going anywhere near that beer and what we're just going to show honest responses from people you can get those tops that go on the top that look like penises they go right on the cans fit right on there i'm just saying the last thing anheuser-busch wants is for their is for bud light to be the gay beer. But that's what it is.
Starting point is 01:12:05 I don't know why they chose that for themselves. It's because they want a new market. They don't want the frat boys to be in their beer and they literally got rid of that market. Right now. It's gone. Here's some advice. Anheuser-Busch, next time, don't break up with your boyfriend until you have another one lined up.
Starting point is 01:12:22 And again, let's not forget the context in which this was pushed. It was right after a transgenderist shooter shot up a Christian school, killed three children. Another transgender shooter was caught right before they went and shot up a church. And instead of saying,
Starting point is 01:12:38 we stand with the Christian community, we stand with this community that was attacked, we stand with this school, we're going to donate to these people. What do they they do they doubled and tripled down on pushing the agenda of the people who identified with the same identity as the shooter that just that just solidifies that the uh that the the boycott is the moral thing to do i still honestly think for the average person that the you got the gay one is gonna pay the pay the bills but it's you're that's a little too complicated phil what's gonna happen is the guy's gonna be at a one he's gonna pay the bills that's a little too complicated Phil
Starting point is 01:13:05 what's gonna happen is the guy's gonna be at a party he's gonna be sitting there with his jaw hanging open and his buddy's gonna walk in with a bud light and go you're gay that's it that's it that's it it's like Beavis and Butthead
Starting point is 01:13:18 you ask the average person what would you rather have happen would you rather have the media and the left say you you're a homophobe, or have your buddy at the bar go, you're gay? What does the average person fear more? What does the average person feel more? Where is your power now? Boy, you got the gay beer.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Yeah, like butted. That's all it is. Beaves and butted. I've already seen that meme, too, where the guy's drinking it, and then- Oh, yeah. Well, there's the Babylon Beer with that article. It said, guys drinking Cosmos make fun of dude drinking Bud-Lite. Oh, that's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:13:51 That's hilarious. It's too easy. Oh, you think my peach Bellini's funny now? You're drinking a Bud-Lite. This is delicious. That thing's gay, and it sucks. Bros drinking Cosmos laugh at friend ordering bud light oh my gosh at least my cosmos delicious but you know you know it's more than that too i think
Starting point is 01:14:14 part of it is that it's just fun to be a part of something and so when someone comes in and then they're they're like hey bud light we're not gonna buy. They're all high-fiving. It's not so much that these people probably care about Bud Light, but that they feel camaraderie unified around making fun of something and having a joke. And then probably what happens is the alpha dude is sitting there
Starting point is 01:14:35 and he's with his buddies like, what do you guys want? Like, I don't give me a Bud Light. He's like, no, I'm not going to buy that one. That's the gay beer. Get yingling. And then the other guy goes, oh, it is?
Starting point is 01:14:43 I think, yeah, you're right. And then once that guy cracks one joke, they all start cracking jokes to try and fit in and they're just meme-ifying bud light as as a bad brand it's over it's already over it's so over i said this is actually very very funny it does really remind me of when people were shorting uh gamestop because it was it was a meme but it was also the destruction of the company no no no not shorting gamestop investing in investing in gamestop when people are trying to short it that's right because they were harming investment firms right yeah yeah investment for they put a big investment firm out of business and also i think uh trump jr and ocasio-cortez even had common ground on that they both tweeted the same day about how the government should not be privileging this
Starting point is 01:15:26 investment firm. They lost fair and square. Yeah, I know, but talking about how Matt Gaetz and AOC have worked together on some good things, it's kind of like mentioning that sometimes Bizarro Superman will help someone. Bizarro Superman's still kind of bad. Oh, for sure. I'm not like, hold on, wait, did you,
Starting point is 01:15:42 excuse me, do you think I'm an AOC fanboy over here? No, I'm just saying. No, I'm angry. I want to date her, Tim you, excuse me, do you think I'm an AOC fanboy over here? No, I'm just saying like. No, I'm angry. I want to date her, Tim. Don't you get it? Like, that's why I criticize her so much. Oh, I thought it was because you thought she was evil. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:15:52 People only criticize things that they like. Don't you know that? Like, if you criticize AOC, it's because you want to date her, right? If you have any issue with like LGBTQ lifestyles, it's because you're in the closet, right? That's the iron law of kindergarten playgrounds. That's true. Exactly. I know you are, but what am I? Pulled her pigtails. No, when you pull her pigtails, it's because you're in the closet, right? That's the iron law of kindergarten playgrounds. That's true. Exactly. I know you are, but what am I?
Starting point is 01:16:07 Pulled her pigtails. No, when you pull her pigtails, it's because you like her. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. So I really, I guess I just really am so in love with AOC. I mean, so I guess when you make a video about AOC, you're like, it's a marriage proposal, essentially.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Basically. I've only made like one or two videos about her. So I guess I've proposed to her twice. I'm waiting, you know. They're not getting, this is modern times. No one's looking to get married. They're just looking for the Netflix and chill. All right, you guys ready for this story?
Starting point is 01:16:32 Here we go from timcast.com. Gay conservative professor under investigation for offering chocolates to attendees at an open house. I gotta say, hold on. Hold on there, Burtman. What kind of chocolates were they they were jeremy's chocolates that's the story a professor had candy laid out some of them were jeremy's chocolates they said it created a hostile work environment and put him on leave i gotta say
Starting point is 01:16:57 of all the teachers out there trying to give candy to children i think this is the one we need to worry about the least very good very good yeah richardson who was a self-described gay conservative the college's human resources wrote a letter regarding the matter which was delivered by a uniformed police officer unbelievable well to his home on monday the state center community college district informed richardson who had been employed at the college for nearly 33 years that he'd been placed on paid administrative leave pending an investigation into unspecified allegations of creating a hostile work environment along with reportedly harassing and discriminating against colleagues based on gender and we are not fed up with this
Starting point is 01:17:34 yet america oh it's only getting worse but it is oh yeah it's getting so much worse but i'm wondering what happens to actually make if people will get fed up at what point they will if they will because i mean i am of the opinion that we are in a cultural revolution in the united states um and i'm not sure how many people here agree with me but i think everyone does um and i'm just wondering when the rest of the alleged liberals will realize that progressivism is not liberal, that it's illiberal, that it's authoritarian, that it's essentially Maoism in the United States. I think this professor is horrible. He's a bad guy. Now I want some.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Want a little bit? Yeah, send it over. Which one is that one? We have like 2,000 bars, Tom. Have you had one yet? I haven't had a lot. No, I haven't had one. You want one?
Starting point is 01:18:31 Nah, I'm good. It's not bad. It's really not. I got some already. Not a whole bunch of ingredients in it either. That means it's healthy for you. Which one is this one? I guess.
Starting point is 01:18:40 It's a lot of sugar. It's actually not that bad. One bar, it's like 19 grams of sugar. So I guess if that's all you eat, not the worst thing, but, you know, it's a lot of sugar it's actually not that bad one bar it's like 19 grams of sugar so i guess if that's all you eat you know the worst thing but you know we're now in a state where if you take a dump on a pride flag hate crime maximum penalty if you try to kill people on a subway train or threaten to do so you're the victim of course and if you're a professor who offers up chocolate that happens to be made by jeremy boring you will be placed on leave and placed under investigation and the police will come serve you notice i mean the left understands the friend enemy distinction
Starting point is 01:19:15 just way better than the right they understand where they're at they understand that the key right now is marking territory knowing who's on your side they're willing to punish their enemies and reward their friends with every opportunity. And it's gross. It's difficult in a society. We wish we wouldn't live that way, but we have to understand that's where we're at right now. And just like you're saying,
Starting point is 01:19:34 oh, you got to get out of these cities if you're a conservative or if you're right-leaning or any of this. Well, you also have to get out of any of these lines of employment or anything if you are not along with the progressive agenda. They're going to come come for you no matter even if you're gay or whatever it doesn't matter if you disagree with them on something you will get purged that's why i like eating the chocolate bars on the show and making a joke out of it because i really would prefer it if people
Starting point is 01:19:57 stopped buying hershey's and started doing nothing but buy jeremy's parallel economy tim actually pays me in jeremy's chocolate that's all he gets he gets all i get one chocolate bar every night every night that's it but he has to eat it i and i have to eat it even if i'm really full so tim is feeding the irish basically yeah that's true it's true tim what if there's starving artists what's that bad joke go ahead yeah yeah but but this is uh i mean look this is how the left works though right so you mentioned earlier someone on the the subway threatening people trying to bring them harm uh you mean the victim yeah they're a victim exactly that's
Starting point is 01:20:38 because the left of course divides people up into victim classes and oppressor classes and i think a lot of people on the right don't realize just how far that goes. It's actually ideologically consistent. It doesn't map out of the world, but it's consistent because in their minds, if someone is a victim, any and all behaviors that they engage in are a manifestation of their victimhood. And if someone's an oppressor, any and all behaviors that they exhibit are a manifestation of their oppressiveness. So even though you had a clear situation of self-defense, right, the person who was screaming at other people on the subway, he's a victim by his very nature and can never be anything else because the left's placed them in this category. So his
Starting point is 01:21:14 behavior, which we all understand is reasonable, people victimizes others, actually makes him the victim. And then the person who acts in self-defense is an aggressor because he can't be anything but an aggressor. It's literally his nature. it's the label that belongs on him it's his category it's literal anarcho-tyranny well it's an inversion of uh aristocracy right aristocrats have more privileges than you they have more rights than you well because this person is a victim therefore they are allowed this extra latitude certain laws don't apply to them they are above these things because these allowances have to be made you're held to a different standard because you don't have that status it's really all there is to it well i feel like oh god god well and i'll also say i mean
Starting point is 01:21:54 they actually believe these people are so so paranoid and insane they think and this is they honestly think the true believers among them that white people on some subconscious level, even if they don't realize it consciously, white people are walking around thinking, how can I kill a black person? They really genuinely think that that is how white people's minds work in this culture. So when a white person defends himself from a black person, that black person dies. Well, they were clearly just looking for the opportunity to kill a black person and if you want to tell me they don't actually think that way then give me any other model of thought that predicts the outcome of them always insisting that the white person is an aggressor in every situation even when it was clearly self-defense they're projecting these people feel that way and their assumption then is everyone else feels the same
Starting point is 01:22:45 way as them well you remember what robin d'angelo wrote right about when his race everything she said about black people and also in any given situation it's not a question of whether racism occurred it's how did racism manifest itself yeah that's insane that's actual insanity right but that is what they believe these are their sacred texts this is their uh academic literature it's it's it's not whether or not you have sinned it is how have you sinned you are you are impure from birth because of the original sin of racism and this is this it's unfortunate that these things are actually, explaining them is fairly complex oftentimes. And the average person doesn't understand this stuff. And to try and explain it to them just makes you sound like you're a little on the crazy side.
Starting point is 01:23:39 And I think that the most effective way to fight this stuff is to inform people of what's going on. So that way they can see. Because when you try to engage most of the leftist arguments at their face, the leftists don't really care which way you engage the argument. Because the point is to get you to engage the argument in the way that they frame it. Right, on their terms. Yeah. And that's part of the way that they frame it on their terms yeah and that's part of the that's that is actually the target it's not whether or not you say the right thing there
Starting point is 01:24:11 is no right thing to say it's that you're engaging in the argument that they make like right when they make the argument about the about you know this person um this person that that killed the guy on the subway they're making you engage in the argument in a certain way. And that's the problem. If you can notice that, no, this is not about power dynamic. This is about a guy trying to protect people. And if you can make that, if you can make the viewer of the art engagement see that
Starting point is 01:24:44 and see through their framing, that's a way to make people aware of what's going on. But to just engage with the argument that they present to you, that ends up making the average person the fool because they use things like dual meanings with words. The meaning of racism will change and stuff in the middle of the argument and stuff. So it's a lot of Mott and Bailey stuff. But if you don't know and you approach the arguments on their face, you'll end up losing. Well, you have to reframe it because they reframe things in such an insane way. And what often happens is conservatives, and this is a point that's been made a million times. It's a dead horse, but sometimes a dead horse needs a good smack or two.
Starting point is 01:25:22 What? I've never heard that said before. Well, that's because it's a shameless coglin original but they'll say you know it's so annoying that leftists will accuse conservatives of being racist and the conservative goes to all these links to explain links to explain they're not racist and that's true right and then on the other hand you'll have like fringe conservatives who think that they're transcending the paradigm of going actually i am right that's what you should be saying is what are you talking about exactly this this has nothing to do with that you're clearly grasping at straws like don't even engage with the issue of race when they bring it up when they say it's never done sincerely
Starting point is 01:25:58 when you're saying when when you're saying oh or when you're being told you're racist the wrong answer is well let me tell you everyone's racist so yeah did not show you no that is wrong that is the that is a failure of of of of you on your part you have to just you have to say that you're not racist and that to even accuse you of racism is absurd um you know right off the doing from now on? Right off the bat. In my opinion, you should reply with an insult because to call someone an insult or to call someone racism, a racist is to insult them.
Starting point is 01:26:34 That's the intent that they're doing. From now on, anytime we have a leftist on the show, the first thing I ask is, are you racist? Yeah, good move. Because then you put them on the defensive. Well, it's because they have to say yes yeah and then i'll be like oh wow we've never you know because all of us we are not
Starting point is 01:26:49 racist i don't even know i can't platform you here that's that's interesting i wonder if the new york times will say but you're an admitted racist yeah so you're a you're an admitted rate you admit you're racist that's interesting it's horrible yeah we we should be platforming admitted racist on the left isn't robin d'angelo admitted racist yes and this is the funny thing 100 i would imagine of leftists who come on the show would be self-admitted racists yeah guarantee you know i mean and then we bring on a conservative and we're like you've been accused of being racist like i'm not racist tucker carlson being accused he's like i'm not racist the left they all will admit it isn't this the weirdest time to be alive it's because they're all white supremacists. Well, and again, this is how they feel bad about it.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Just remember, when somebody says you're racist or asks if you're racist or ask if you have like negative racial attitudes, what they're doing is they're looking at you and they're asking, when did you stop beating your wife? I figured your response to that is, well, I've never I would never do that. And it's like, hold on. Why are you even giving us? They just said they made a ridiculous accusation with no evidence i figured it out how conservatives can win every single court case every single jury here's what you do right now i hope the law firm that's representing daniel
Starting point is 01:27:57 penny hears me out ask every juror are you inherently racist? And if they say yes, they say to the judge, I don't think an inherent racist can be an impartial juror on this racial issue. Anybody who's moderate or conservative leaning or independent will say I'm not, and any leftist will say they are. Jury hack. Jury hack. And then you're not kicking off someone based on their political affiliation. Or their Washington pool.
Starting point is 01:28:28 They're admittedly racist. And you're like, like your honor if the person is admittedly racist how are we gonna have a fair trial yeah we're not is it like it's fair point they had outright said they're biased against people based on race right then you'll get some middle of the road guy he's like no i'm not a racist i think i'll be fair okay that's a really good idea yep jury. Jury hack. And you can do it in any single jury trial, any single one, no matter what it is, civil case, criminal. Imagine this. Imagine you're trying to win a defamation case against the New York Times or something like that.
Starting point is 01:28:54 When you're doing jury selection, say, are you a racist? The leftists remove themselves. So here's a funny story. Speaking of jury selection, back in the 1980s, my dad got selected for jury duty. He was talking about the people who clearly did not want to be on jury or did not want to have to do a jury duty. So one guy came in wearing an American flag tie because he's like, look, I have a business to run.
Starting point is 01:29:16 I don't have time to be on a jury. And then this other lady, when they were asking questions without them knowing anything about the case, they say, do you believe in the death penalty? She goes, yes. And I think he should get it. Yeah, right. That's how you get out of jury duty. Not the obvious, I don't have time for this, or you dress weird. No, no, you got to just be a bad juror.
Starting point is 01:29:41 But no, the guy wore an American flag tie, and they didn't just answer the question normally. They didn't call him back to the jury. This was back in the 80s. Wow. Yeah. Huh. That's ingenious.
Starting point is 01:29:49 I would love to have jury duty. This is also Cook County, right? This is Chicago. If I was on jury duty, I just, maybe I shouldn't say this because this will preclude me from having jury duty. Yeah, they're not. You're already off, dude. There's no way.
Starting point is 01:29:59 There's no way to let you sit on jury. I would not be guilty no matter what. Bro, right now it's done. You'd have to show me a video of the guy committing the crime. And then like the guy being questioned, is that you on camera? Yes. Did you commit the crime? I did.
Starting point is 01:30:12 And I bet, okay, well, I guess then I'll say yes. But like. Even then you're like, I don't think he pleads guilty. And you're like, I don't think he did it. What if it's deep fake? If there's, if it's like a crime involving children, I probably would like give me evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. But if it's something like possession of a drug it's just never gonna be it's gonna be a no for me dog yeah it's just not happening if it's not a violent crime yeah
Starting point is 01:30:32 dude's going home if there's no victim going home if if it's like if it's if it's crimes against children and of a sexual nature or something like that he's probably i'm probably just gonna be like lock him up lock him up yeah it makes like you i need the evidence obviously you got to present your case but that's where i'm actually like the system should imprison these people then it's like somebody's like he was caught with he was like driving and they found a bag of weed in his car i'd be like i don't see why putting him in prison or he hit a pedestrian or something it's like look we have what is it a nation with too many that's not a joke i'm just kidding is that a real thing that people if a guy is on trial for hitting a pedestrian there is a nation with too many... That's not a joke. I'm just kidding. Is that a real thing? If a guy is on trial for hitting a pedestrian,
Starting point is 01:31:07 there is a strong possibility that I'm not going to send him to prison. Because you got to think about what that means. Are we talking about a guy who intentionally ran someone down? Okay, then probably. Give me the proof and we'll lock him up. Are you talking about a guy
Starting point is 01:31:19 who's like driving down the road with his kid and then his kid drops the toy and then he looks down and someone walks out from between two cars and he hits him and he's like, oh oh my god i can't believe what i've done like do i want i don't want to send that guy to prison i would send the kid to prison for not saying think about daniel penny right they're saying it's manslaughter they're calling it manslaughter saying it was not proportional bro if i was in the jury i would just be like there
Starting point is 01:31:37 is literally nothing you can say i wouldn't want to like here's the problem if they're like answer truthfully i'll be honest if they're like do you think you'd be fair and impartial? I do think I'd be fair. Absolutely. 100%. And that's an acquittal. This guy's going home tomorrow. I'm going to walk in there and I'm going to say to all the jury, I'm like, I'm going to
Starting point is 01:31:53 be the foreman. All in favor? No. Well, I'll tell you this, not guilty. And I'm not changing my mind. There's literally nothing you can say. And then it's either, guys, that's my position. If you want to go home, you can agree with me.
Starting point is 01:32:04 Otherwise, we'll be here as long as it takes until we get a mistrial. But I'm not guilty for me, dog. Two things. The Libertarian Party and libertarians have been very pro-jury nullification for a long time. And, you know, if it's a crime without a victim, there's nothing wrong with saying, you know, I'm not going to put this person in jail. I'm not going to ruin their life. And second of all, Seamus, the children do yearn for the minds so oh do you want to send kids to mine i mean typical libertarian that's where they're that's where they belong what do you mean they play minecraft that's the point right they yearn
Starting point is 01:32:37 for the mind gosh minecraft is a psyop i was literally setting you up for that for using to get them prepared to want to work in mines. Exactly. So this is like a return to tradition. Exactly. That's right. Yeah. All right, everybody.
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Starting point is 01:33:47 think that just destroying the image of the journalist of the media as something important that crowns our leaders, that holds up public opinion, defines it is way more important than any given policy. I think it would be great if Trump was a more competent governor, of course, or in competent governance. But I do think that at this point, the base does care a lot more about him humiliating the media. And I think they're right about that. This podcast is supported by Talkspace. When my husband came home from his military deployment, readjusting was hard for all of us.
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Starting point is 01:35:07 That's Talkspace.com slash military. I kind of agree. It feels good because they lie. They're lying liars, smear merchants, and he gets a chance to stand up and say to them for us. And it feels good, man. The way to break their grip on And it feels good, man. The way, the way to break their power, their grip on power and stuff is mockery.
Starting point is 01:35:28 That is the best way to make, make fools of them and let everyone see that they are not better than most of the time. Worse than you. The only reason to interact with these legacy institutions is to humiliate them and reduce their ability to control credentials. Michael Malice is right. Every single, when the job is finished, when every journalist is looked at like a tobacco lobbyist, to humiliate them and reduce their ability to control credentials. Michael Malice is right.
Starting point is 01:35:51 When the job is finished, when every journalist is looked at like a tobacco lobbyist, that's when the job is done. That's what they deserve. And honestly, we are getting there. And that's something I think you're right about that in the sense that, look, that's where Trump is most effective when he's tearing these people apart. And I think many of the cultural shifts, look, there are things he did in office that I do think were very valuable. For example, the judges he appointed, the fact that Roe was overturned, there's a lot to praise him for in that, but it was the cultural impact he had. And also the fact
Starting point is 01:36:15 that he forced the Warhawks into the democratic party for the most part. Just one second. I want to, I want to go ahead and trigger some of the, the Trump supporters last night. The worst thing that he did was he called the right to bear arms a privilege. Yeah. And that is unacceptable. And I want to point that out because I don't want people to think that, like, that slipped by me as, like, ultimately pro 2A guy. I want to read the Super Chat for you, Phil.
Starting point is 01:36:42 That one gamer says, LOL, why did Phil sound like SpongeBob? Ah, earlier. Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob. Patrick, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob. Dude. SpongeBob singing metal. Cody Mays says, teachers are more competent than that host, Phil. Was that what it referenced to?
Starting point is 01:37:03 Which host? Oh, the host with with trump are you talking about oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah okay i'm gonna read this one trap to the world says imagine if bud light had sponsored a sequel to two girls one cup the association would cause people to be revolted by the beer it's not that people think bud light is gay it's that they're literally disgusted by the product listen we are at the rate we're going on. If we stay on the same track, we are three prides away from a from a two girls, one cup float heading right down Main Street. No, but I think I think you're right.
Starting point is 01:37:36 That was two prides ago. I think what Trav to the world is saying is that people see Bud Light and it reminds them of Dylan Mulvaney and Dylan Mulvaney. I describe his nails on a chalkboard. Yes. seeing bud light it's grating it's like oh i just infuriated by the the whiny shrieking twitching things that dylan mulvaney does it's like weird nails on a chalkboard behavior yeah definitely disgust is really powerful too it is radioactive rats is shameless you should make a cartoon where joe identifies as one of those tiny chairs so he can get kids to sit in his lap oh joe biden oh my gosh come on man well what is a chair uh are you concerned identifying that they wear the fake chair arms you know they do that and they'll like the it's a couch costume and then you have like fake arms and you you know you've ever seen those no no i've never seen a fake chair costume yeah there's a bunch of prank videos like a guy's in a car what kind of
Starting point is 01:38:28 websites are you on youtube the guy the guy's in the driver's seat wearing a costume that looks like a car seat and then someone sits i have seen that dude he grabs him those are great the car looks like it's driving i got a really good idea for a a bit that i always wanted to do but it's just just not there's no point well it's i don't know the idea was to get a car and put rabbits in a passenger seat and then in the in the back seat and then for the driver have a rabbit taped to your head and then slowly pull up and then when you get to the drive-thru window just turn your head very slowly and go hello i ordered the food please hurry it's cold up here you know like the rabbits are taking over
Starting point is 01:39:05 i mean they might be i just think that'd be they have a lot i mean that look though he the hand that the the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world tim uh i regret to inform you eve six has joined the struggle session of cnn they're complaining about anderson cooper on the bird app as well shame on on you, Anderson Cooper. It's so weird that the guy from Eve 6 just is like, he's got one of the biggest songs of our generation. A couple of them, actually. Here's to the Night, I think, was bigger. No.
Starting point is 01:39:36 It wasn't. But it's big. But I'm pretty sure their second album was bigger than their first album. I could be wrong. I don't know. But Here's to the Night was played at every graduation ceremony and school dance. That's why I think... I understand in terms of everyone knows the song Inside Out, the Heart in a Blender song.
Starting point is 01:39:54 But Here's to the Night, everyone's like, oh, that's that song. I think if they heard it, they might be like, oh, yeah. Yeah. He went from that to some random guy in the crowd just waving his fist at Donald Trump. Yeah. Like, why, dude? I i mean to be fair like they i didn't the his his star kind of rose again when he started talking smack on twitter because they i didn't read like he was really out of the public eye but come on like your star rising in the sewer is not something that's like you know and i've offered to have him on the show like 12
Starting point is 01:40:25 times already and he runs away every time he's like a dude in the crowd and he's like yeah donald trump and then i'm like hey bro love your music would you want to come on the show then he runs away he's like he just he's gone he's always been nice and so i don't want to like i don't want to talk badly about him but you know it'd be it'd be cool if uh if he would you know come on the show and tell us why he thinks that a Maoist struggle session of CNN is a good idea. I mean, he's not going to call it that. I'm just like, hey, bro, I see you have opinions. Would you like to share them on
Starting point is 01:40:51 a podcast? And then he just shuts up and disappears. Come on. It's like he comes in smack talks and then runs away when I'm like, hello, friend, would you like to come on the show? I promise I will not try to raise you. One of two things. I think I tweeted, if he doesn't come on the show, I'm going to start a band called what one of two things i think i i tweeted if he doesn't come on the show i'm gonna start a band called eve seven which is one better than eve six
Starting point is 01:41:08 you should just cover a bunch of eve six songs like let's do it yeah yeah i was rocking out to promise earlier i tweeted about it because i like i think it's funny like bro i grew up listening to this music i listen to all the pop we could totally cover inside out and here's to the night and put him on youtube he'd make a bunch of money. It'd be fine because it would just ruffle his feathers. I got to say, man, the lyrics to Promise are really good. Like that dude wrote a, it's lyrically brilliant. And I think Here's to the Night is one of the best songs ever.
Starting point is 01:41:41 It's a classic coming of age like high school graduation song from our generation and everyone knows the heart and a blender song and i'm like bro you're allowed to have these opinions and you're also allowed to come on the show and talk about it but i don't get it it's like he doesn't want attention well it's you know what i mean it's because of the fact that the left thinks that coming on to this show uh is is violating the rules you know you're you're you're engaging with the uh the verboten the the people that are not to be named or spoken about well this is this part so he was on we talked about it lance was on the show a little while ago and then i saw him retweet a day or two after the shooting the headline about
Starting point is 01:42:25 how the the shooter had shared stuff from tim cast i was like dude you were on the show you were like on the show with us like two days ago yeah he exemplifies perfectly the cult one he said that i'll keep it very very family friendly that engaging in relation a male engaging in relations with a male of a specific nature was not gay, and that he also recognized every single person would disagree with that stance. Meaning, like, he's
Starting point is 01:42:54 aware he's this weird outlier of fringe belief. He's also aware that on this show, I said, I think, he's like, you think Blair White should use a men's room? I was like, no, I think Blair White should use the bathroom where she looks and most fits in. And Buck Angel, too, so it'll probably create more problems. He's like, oh, that's really woke.
Starting point is 01:43:11 And I'm like, yeah, I guess. Maybe if you watched the show, you wouldn't call me right wing. But he doesn't watch the show. So he tweets out, the right finally admits that the grooming thing was about indoctrinating kids into queer culture, into queer lifestyles. And they think it's sexual. And I'm like, finally admits that's like literally the premise of the whole thing. The,
Starting point is 01:43:30 the, the, the trans pedagogy document shared by James Lindsay about getting glitter in the carpet that can never be removed is the basis of the entire argument the whole time. And they don't watch the show. They have no idea what's being said. Like trying to separate children from their parents and their familial identity so that they see you as the only person who cares for them so
Starting point is 01:43:48 that they can inculcate you into a cult of sexual perversion and have you act in ways which sexually gratify them if only there were a word for that if only there was a word that describes that kind of behavior i mean i made a sign and everything so right on anyway that's right that's right yes don't make me tap the sign i think we just got to cover you know promise or something or here's to the night and then he'll be forced after the cover gets a billion views yeah to be like i'm gonna come on this let's do it we gotta we gotta get the guy from eve six max max come on we want you on the show, Max. We love your music. If you don't come on, we're going to cover one song every month by Eve Six until you come on. We're going to make you double platinum again, whether you like it or not. He has this tweet pinned to his Twitter where he's like, we're going to be huge again.
Starting point is 01:44:37 And I'm like, but I hope I hope that he's not thinking that by just tweeting how he hates Trump is what's going to make him big. Because I genuinely think their music is really good. Like he's a thinking that by just tweeting how he hates trump is what's going to make him big because i genuinely think their music is really good like he's a really good lyricist like the lyric there man i gotta tell you and especially how bad modern lyrics are i'm like listening to the old eve six song i'm like these are good these are well written so he's just gotta not pigeonhole himself you know i think that's what he's doing let's read some more here where are we at fear me it's brie says hey tim tomorrow maine is having a hearing on a trans trafficking bill that would make us a trans tourism state that would allow the kidnapping and transitioning of children from other states ld 1735 yikes man that kind of stuff is really really really
Starting point is 01:45:24 dangerous oh yeah no and it's only getting worse it's only spreading to more states which means you're only going to have more challenges that go up to federal it's it's going to get wild it's going to get yeah all right robert knight says the the problem with defaulting is the massive amount of u.s bonds owned by banks it'll cause the cascade failure leading to the cbdc it's why dems refuse to negotiate this is what i think the plan is maybe so too and they'll blame it on republicans yeah all right eric miller says question for everyone would you surrender your freedom for for full communist subjugation if it guaranteed everyone else's freedom in the country what would you choose to singularly live
Starting point is 01:46:02 under a communist dictatorship but everyone else in the country all 330 million are guaranteed freedom forever well it wouldn't work there'd be no central distribution of goods to me from who no it means you would be subjugated you would only be allowed to eat the bare minimum you would have to do the work to what you're capable of doing you would not get fancy cars you would never have a a beautiful suite you'd live in the gutter and it meant everyone else was free i gotta i gotta talk to my spiritual director about that one i'm not sure i think you're obligated to it jamis i'm required to i think you are required to why would i but i don't think so because then i'd be
Starting point is 01:46:34 forcing myself to live in ways that would destroy my soul but you'd be sacrificing yourself to save everyone else maybe wwjd yeah the jesus of communism yeah exactly but like it does that save myself because i'm just like i assume they're going to prevent me from practicing my faith right well let me ask yes let me know i'm not doing what if it made everyone else want to practice the faith if it pushed everyone else like what if you can't like well let me ask you this i told i gotta i'll ask my you know when the opportunity comes up i'll have a long conversation with my spiritual director about it that's a let's say a question i don't have an answer for is a question a guy
Starting point is 01:47:03 he he's like ah shamus you're you're coming with me and we're going to subjugate you and you'll never be allowed to practice your religion and you're going to live under a communist boot and then you say for everyone i will choose to do this and if in doing so everyone else in the in the world said wow is that what it means to be a christian i convert hold on a second but then in in some sense you could argue that that's doing good that evil or that's doing evil that good might come of it like i'm abandoning my religion so that other people might adopt it so i'm doing something bad hoping people will do something good yeah well it's complicated because it's being forced on me right but then i'm also agreeing to have it forced on i'm saying
Starting point is 01:47:41 yeah like you you are you no one's saying you don't believe it. It's just, you're not allowed to practice. They're like, they're going to lock you in a box. I don't like that. But it means everybody else. I don't know,
Starting point is 01:47:51 that's tough. I mean, like, it's a good question. I might say yes. If it was like, you win the culture war right now, but I have to live in a woke university
Starting point is 01:48:00 I can't leave forever, I might say yes. But hold, there's a different question here where if it's we win the culture war you know and all these lives are saved these children aren't mutilated abortion stops happening but we kill you or you have to be miserable or something and i think there's a much more clear moral answer to that but if it's you you have to forego your relationship
Starting point is 01:48:20 with god i think that's you can't practice you're allowed to believe whatever you want so like what if they said we're going to lock you in a university like decently sized you can never go outside again and the culture war is over freedom and meritocracy wins i might say i'd probably say yes to that you know and then you can like people will walk by in the point i'll be in the window and i'll be like this just like this is sad and there'll be a plaque under that's like he gave us our freedom and you're like because the window is You know, but there's like video games in there or something. No, no, wait, what? So you get locked in a building
Starting point is 01:48:49 where you get to play video games all day and you're the savior of the world? But they're like the worst woke video games. Oh, he's playing Depression Quest. Yeah, you're playing like EA's most woke thing. It's unimaginable. It's just Snake. Eternal Snake.
Starting point is 01:49:03 All right, Lamp Post has a question for phil today marks one year since we lost trevor stran he meant a lot to us in the metal community i was wondering if you had ever met or toured with him and if you had any kind words to share uh i didn't know trevor well i met him um a few times you know passing by and stuff uh we did one tour they were on um back in like 2012 it was death clock, All That Remains Black Dahlia Murder and I forget if there was a fourth band but I wasn't close with him no so I don't have any
Starting point is 01:49:31 kind of special stories or anything unfortunately but I know he was a really nice guy and he was really really well loved and if you are struggling call someone your life has value and to be honest with you the people that are in your lives they kind of share your life with them so it's not just yours to take don't don't give up call
Starting point is 01:49:54 someone there's i don't know what the hotline is off off the top of my head but call the suicide hotline there are people out there that you can talk to so don't give up cheers what do we got glucose donor says shamus did you see the vox video today about texas and judge shopping as a texan i would love to see debunkers episode four they made a bunch of claims and projected the entire time i will thank you because we're always looking for new videos to debunk for the debunkers and we're trying to do one episode every month moving forward that's our goal so if you guys want to see videos debunked please please please please
Starting point is 01:50:25 send them to us my twitter dms are open i'll also mention this make sure you send stuff that has a lot of statistical information in it like i i don't want it's a waste it's a waste of time to do a debunkers video over something that we're only refuting based on principle like i want to look into their stats and explain to you why their stats are bs so make sure make sure it's something that you're watching that you can't figure out how to debunk that it would take us research to be able to debunk and we'll we'll do it ryan berkabow says a few years ago a picture went viral of a black lives matter wiping with the american flag that was ruled freedom of speech it's because the american flag is a national flag and the pride symbol is not
Starting point is 01:51:05 its idea ideology so they're making the argument that although i do think it's interesting because you can argue nationality is protected under the civil rights act but um i think it's obvious struggle sessions yeah communism don't insult their religion they'll come after you greenling ford yep that's what it is pinochet's helicopter tour says new york we read comments from pinochet's helicopter tours all the time so funny new york was the only colony to abstain from signing the declaration of independence of which the second paragraph is pretty much an instruction manual really wow i didn't know that all right bo jiven says tim remember when you said you drop kick a rapist on the philly train now you cold shoulder the marine because why you're being a hypocrite
Starting point is 01:51:52 oh but you got out of the city yes if i was on the train i would drop kick the rapist literally raping the woman that's still true right now i would not choose to go live in a place where those things are regularly happening happening i hope this guy gets acquitted i'm just saying it's particularly frustrating to be at a point where people after all of these years are still just blindly supporting these cities living in these cities and i'm just like when kim potter got arrested i said said, look, after everything's happened with defund the police, abolish the police, with the BLM riots, you choose to be a cop and this happens to you. Like at a certain point, you have to be responsible for your choices you make. That's just my philosophy. That's my moral philosophy.
Starting point is 01:52:40 It's like, if somebody is in their house and the house is on fire, it's an accident. We're like, okay, we're going to try and save them. If somebody walks into a burning building, it's like if somebody is in their house and the house is on fire it's an accident we're like okay we're going to try and save them if somebody walks into a burning building it's like do we believe in personal responsibility and to what degree so my stance is this the guy did the right thing he was protecting people he should not be charged at all but we all knew it was coming we all knew it would happen we know the violence has been on the subways for a long time we know the violence is getting worse at what point does his personal responsibility kick in? That doesn't mean don't donate to him. I'm just saying, at what point are we going to, are we going to be like, yeah, like these people
Starting point is 01:53:12 choose to live this way. You know what I mean? That's, that's the point I'm trying to make. Cause I don't know, man. I don't know. I don't want to live that way. All right. Sir Thomas Drake says everyone deserves a legal defense for unjust prosecution. Who cares whether he's left or right? He did the right thing. My question to you then would be the people arrested during the 2020 riots. Should we donate to them? I mean, we're not going to assume any of them are guilty. They're innocent until proven guilty. But everybody still got mad that Kamala Harris and the staff for Joe Biden's campaign were donating to these leftists legal funds. They were directly supporting
Starting point is 01:53:46 people we knew were engaging in this violence. But on an individual level, we don't know, you know, everyone's innocent until proven guilty. When the left rioted during Trump's inauguration and set fires in the street and torched a car and smashed windows, they were acquitted, sued the city, and then won millions of dollars. And it was because we couldn't prove, the government couldn't prove any particular individual did anything wrong we recognize those people are evil people right like running around but we also recognize there's no grounds for conviction because i don't know who they are you know i'm just i just i don't know man where's the line where's the line if if we assume this guy is conservative it's okay
Starting point is 01:54:26 but if he's antifa or a democrat people are going to be like why are you supporting these people you know you wouldn't donate to the defense fund of antifa that nobody donated the defense fund of the people with maltoff cocktails after they were accused of giving up giving those out can't can't uh can't experience as i live in brooklyn in the only republican congressional district in the borough plenty of us do vote knowing the facts bro well i i uh i support you man best best of luck in the fire you know all right let's see where we at with these super chits the super golden fleece game says trump needs to purge and purify the state blatant violations of the constitution need to be eradicated. I think he needs to arrest people.
Starting point is 01:55:10 I look forward to it. You'd be in jail. Yeah, well, he didn't do that, so maybe he won't. I don't know. Yeah. Neglectful Sausages. Bill Gates bought tons of Heineken stock in March, shortly before the Bud Light fiasco. Think about it.
Starting point is 01:55:23 What, you think that Bill Gates was like, Anheuser, you need to sponsor Dylan Mulvaney. Trust me. Really? It'll be great. Do you think that Bill Gates is really making money off a stock in Anheuser-Busch? I mean...
Starting point is 01:55:37 Yeah. Heineken. Well, in Heineken? I mean, is Heineken moving that much? What kind of volatility is in is Heineken moving that much is what, what, what kind of volatilities in the Heineken beer market? I mean, he's, he's already, he's already like the owner of IBM. He's become more shares of IBM.
Starting point is 01:55:52 I can't imagine. Yeah. Oh yeah. Microsoft. I can't imagine that, that there's a compelling reason for him to get into the Heineken business. You know why? Cause AI is just going to start writing way cooler operating systems without having nearly the overhead.
Starting point is 01:56:07 That's possible. And then people are just going to have a custom OS and then Bill Gates won't be able to do anything about it. But let me tell you, they won't have custom beers in the same way. You know, not quite as easy for a computer to spit out a new glass of beer with a set of tasty ingredients. I'm not a drinker, but I can't imagine Heineken being the winner. Look, he's a scientist of a sort.
Starting point is 01:56:28 I trust him. Josh Bird says, Bud Light, the beer for the queer. But that's not fair because it's LGBTQ. It's not just the queer. It's the lesbian. But doesn't the Q stand for queer?
Starting point is 01:56:41 It's queer. It's politically queer. But I'm just saying queer is exclusionary because you have to include all the letters what does the number what does queer mean at this point have they supposed to drink queer means an essence without or a i think it's an essence that's with doesn't have a gender is what queer actually is because the whole point of queer is to renounce and uh be against whatever is considered normal so to be queer is to reject normal sexuality so if you reject normal sexuality you can be queer and that's what part of the
Starting point is 01:57:15 reason why the saying isn't all of it like queer quote unquote it all fits under queer and that's why you can become queer and have a have an approved identity so that's why or that's part of the reason why the lgbt lobby has grown so much because everybody that's a normal person normally a normal cis white person that's boring and doesn't have a politically correct identity because if you're a white person and you're a cis person, you've got, and you're male, you've got all the bad things. If you want to get on board with the approval train,
Starting point is 01:57:52 you go ahead and say that you have a queer identity and then you're absolved of your original sin of cis hetero whiteness. Well, this is why the non-binary thing has picked up so much. All you have to do is get a weird haircut and all of a sudden you're back in the game. Exactly. mean no it's true right they they've installed all these expansion which is exactly why it used to be used to be like you had to be uh gay and now there's a
Starting point is 01:58:15 bunch of other things you can be there's like a bunch of expansive packs to lgb like i used to be lgb you know let's make one let's make one return to tradition right but but you get my point where it's just let's let's add all these new ways for people to be unique and that's but that's why the the the graph that lance was showing about left-handedness that's why it's all bs because it's not that there's an innate a larger amount of people that feel comfortable coming out it's it's that he doesn't show you the earlier in it, where it's the same level, dips down, and it keeps going straight level again.
Starting point is 01:58:49 Fair enough. So like they start from the bottom in history and then make you think that's where it originally was when in actuality someone responded to his post with the full chart and it shows throughout history, it's like 10%. Then there was a period where it dipped down and then went back to 10%.
Starting point is 01:59:04 Yeah, but his argument is that it's, you know, oh, people feel comfortable coming out and et cetera. It's not that people are actually members of the LGBTQ community and they feel comfortable coming out. It's that it has become an identity that insulates you from criticism. If you have an LGBT identitybt identity you can be you can
Starting point is 01:59:26 call on your victimhood i could argue their positions better than they could um why do i think there's a big uptick in trans kids and all that stuff first i think social uh contagion plays a huge role in it but i also think endocrine disruptors that we've known about for decades it's all of our food name a food product and it's got plastic leaching into it all of it so you're a mom you're eating this stuff it's going into your womb into the baby and the baby is having its endocrine system disrupted i have i don't know anything about endocrine disruptors i heard about them but i have no idea what they are birth control is a endocrine disruptor some birth controls
Starting point is 02:00:05 masculinized baby uh baby girls and then we know that pcbs phthalates in are leaching into our food we i remember it was like 20 years ago they were talking about birth control leaching into the water supply because it couldn't be filtered out or something like that so like now we're seeing a whole bunch of dudes who are small effeminate or trans or women who are trans and i'm like yeah i mean that it makes sense we're dumping chemicals in our food yeah maybe we should consider something like that like going back to glass that's what we do look at this look at this everybody glass bottles rule you hear that that's a glass bottle and we reuse them because we are good stewards of the earth and we don't want to pollute all right i'm a silent says elon hired a
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