Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #779 Daniel Penny Fundraiser BREAKS $2M, Left FURIOUS As Protests BACKFIRE w/Joel Valdez

Episode Date: May 16, 2023

Tim, Phil, Hannah Claire, & Kellen join Joel Valdez to discuss the Daniel Penny fundraiser soaring over $2 Million in donations, a SF security guard shooting a shoplifting suspect, Dave Chappelle roas...ting SF's homeless crisis, a new Bud Light rebate, & Vice Media going bankrupt. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:51 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. The fundraiser for Daniel Penny, the man who was arrested on manslaughter charges for trying to stop a violent individual on a subway train. It's cracked over $2 million, currently around $2.3 million, with several prominent individuals donating large sums to make sure that this man does not go to jail and that we win this fight on the right to defend ourselves. And as many of you know, I was a bit critical on the idea last week. Well, I've come around and I'll elaborate further in the actual segment we get to, but I personally have contributed $20,000 of my personal funds to Daniel Penny's defense because I had a change of heart due to
Starting point is 00:01:38 several arguments that I heard and just generally sleeping on it, thinking about it, and then assessing the situation and what it means to actually win this. The simple version, before we get into everything, is just that if we win this, it's another major culture war victory with an opportunity to win. And Daniel Penny doesn't deserve to spend even a minute behind bars. So I think it's worth fighting for. But I'll talk more about my thoughts on the issue in the segment,
Starting point is 00:02:08 because we've got a lot more news. Miller Lite is now facing a potential boycott, because they produced some feminist ad where they said they're going to take old, sexist beer commercial ads from magazines and whatever, grind it into compost, grow hops from it, and then use it to make beer, which is extremely disgusting. The don't, the ads or whatever, but I don't want to eat garbage from old magazines in my beer, but whatever. And Bud Light is actually now, it appears, giving away their beer for free. I got to break down the details as to why, but they're offering a $20 rebate on $20 beer, meaning they're basically losing money to try and just move product that won't leave the shelves because we're winning. And that all contributes to my thought process on the whole
Starting point is 00:02:49 Daniel Penny thing and why I think it's important just to keep plowing forward when we have the organizational power. So we'll talk about that, plus a whole bunch of other information. Politically, it turns out that the letter about Hunter Biden's laptop, oh, it's overtly political, and they admit it, and we know it. There's a lot of news there to break down. So we'll get into all that. Plus with the Miller Lite story and their feminist ad, it looks like the people involved are starting to scrub leftist talking points. They may be scared that they will too face a boycott. Before we get started, my friends, if you'd like to support the show, go to castbrew.com and pick up Cast Brew Coffee. Notably, you're going to want to grab our Colombian or French roast. You know why?
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Starting point is 00:04:05 a parallel economy. Also, don't forget to go to TimCast.com. Click join us to become a member so you can hang out in our members only uncensored show at about 10, 10 p.m. We do that Monday through Thursday, 10 p.m. Eastern. And you can join our Discord server and hang out with like minded individuals, submit questions and get a chance to call into the show and talk to us live. So please go to Tim guest.com, become a member, smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Joel Valdez. Thank you so much for having me, Tim. I'm usually behind the scenes. So this is a, uh, a new format for me. So thank you so much for, uh, bringing me to the table. I am
Starting point is 00:04:43 Joel Valdez if you uh don't know me i'm the communications director for congressman matt gates and i'm also the press secretary for the newly founded washington dc young republicans uh so really all in all i'm an america first political operative i'm serving the american people and i'm fighting to try to bring donald trump back into the white house cool right on thanks for hanging out follow me on twitter at real joel valdez there you go very important all right we. Right on. Thanks for hanging out. You can follow me on Twitter at RealJoelValdes. There you go. Very important. Alright. We also got Phil Labonte hanging out. Hello everybody. I am Phil Labonte, lead singer of All That Remains,
Starting point is 00:05:10 anti-communist, and counter-revolutionary. And I'm Hannah Claire Brimlow. I'm a writer for TimCast.com. Wow, you guys. We're speeding through it. What's up everybody? Filling in for Serge. It's Kellen. He drank a Bud Light over the weekend, so he's sick. But let's get it started. Let's jump to this first story from TimCast.com.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Online legal fund in support of Daniel Penny reaches $2 million. The law firm managing the fundraiser said any funds left over will be donated to a mental health advocacy program in New York City. Personally, I think it should go to Daniel Penny so he can buy himself a nice car. But the story is by Hannah Claire Brimelow, who's sitting right here. So what happened? Oh, hey, so I actually feel like we should throw you into this. But as we all know, Daniel Penny surrendered to New York law enforcement on Friday. He was released a hundred thousand dollar bond and his law firm set up this give, give, send, go, which has surpassed two million dollars. I think on Saturday or Sunday night it was one million it just keeps ramping up since I wrote this story it was at like two two million eighty thousand when I wrote this and it's 2.3 now so he has generated a lot of support from people
Starting point is 00:06:15 some notable figures including Vivek Ramaswamy he gave ten thousand dollars Kid Rock who said that he does not like Alvin Bragg five thousand and our our very own tim pool gave twenty thousand dollars yeah i felt bad i also messaged him and asked for a comment and he said nah so i guess did i say nah oh i didn't really have a really professional relationship i didn't i didn't i woke up this morning and i was reading more news about daniel penny and i was looking at these pictures and i was saying all last week like this guy should not go to jail this is a good person who was doing the right thing and i had like nuance bro tweeted at me he was like bro you went to new york and dc and austin recently and you're telling people not to go to cities and i was like yes i've talked all about this and i started
Starting point is 00:06:55 thinking about it and i started uh someone made the argument that they they can't leave the city because they were divorced and if they leave it means abandoning their kids to what's going on and if they stay they can be there for their kids. And I was like, that's a really good point, actually. Not everybody can just leave. And it's not because of difficulty. It's because of legal restrictions. And so I thought about that. I'm like, if somebody gets a divorce, their kids are stuck in the city. Leaving would be the worst possible thing they could do. And that means staying in the fire is basically someone huddling over their children to protect them from the flames i can respect that so i need to rethink this and then i thought about a few other things for one i do feel bad being the only person not stepping up to
Starting point is 00:07:33 help a guy who did the right thing and that was like the most obvious thing so then i'm like i should i should probably just donate to this guy like it's not about anything outside of anything else let's just keep it to the one individual dude who did the right thing and probably needs our help. Yeah. Simply put. But then I, then I thought when I was looking at it and I was, I was like,
Starting point is 00:07:51 you know, I saw the vape gave 10 grand. I saw some anonymous donors gave a bunch of money. And I was like, if I had just donated last week, I probably could have justified. I'm going to throw a guy a couple grand, but now considering I spent the past week being like,
Starting point is 00:08:02 nah, I'm not a guy. Well, I'm bugging. I'm not, I better, I better make it something big. I was thinking past week being like, no, I'm not going to do it. I'm bugging. I'm not. I better make it something big. I was thinking about, you know, what I could give.
Starting point is 00:08:11 So I said $20,000. And I kind of thought that there are many more people who could do more than that. And I often complain about how rich people aren't doing enough to win the culture war. Name names, too. About who should be giving more money. Yeah, why not? Phil's got some ideas about who could be giving more money yeah why not phil's got some ideas about who could be giving paging mr boring jeremy boring tim pool has raised the challenge and no i didn't say anything about the daily we have we have so many of your candy bars here and we've
Starting point is 00:08:39 been promoting mr boring please help this young man. You are a wealthy individual. I feel like that's a fair challenge. That is filibunding. But I did say this morning, I challenge anybody who can to give more than I did because I know they can. There's a few other things to consider. It's not first and foremost, I'm like, this guy shouldn't go to prison.
Starting point is 00:08:57 It's unfortunate Jordan Neely lost his life. I'm sad about this. I know the guy had criminal convictions. I know he'd been arrested and he's been accused of really bad things. But I also, you know, I don't want people to lose their lives especially if they're homeless hungry and they're unwell the left has taken the stance that jordan neely was unwell therefore he didn't deserve to die and i'm kind of like i don't care if you're well or unwell if you attack people threaten people and he did witnesses said he was issuing death threats
Starting point is 00:09:23 yeah and you don't deserve to die but someone's got to stop you from hurting people. So ultimately, what I'll say is this. It's not just about Daniel Penny, but first and foremost, it is. But after that, it's about winning in the cities. I thought about if we don't win the right to self-defense in the cities, it comes to our doorstep next. So let's keep it over there. The next thing I thought thought was if we do win
Starting point is 00:09:45 much like anheuser-busch it negates the effort from the left in their pressure campaign with the left going out riding and smashing things up and fighting with cops let's send a message that their protests mean nothing and this man will not face a minute behind bars because we will win yeah well i'm just just to pop in here i think the fundraiser is pretty indicative of how the rest of the country feels. His fundraiser is over $2 million. And I think Jordan Neely's, I don't know whatever contribution set up that he did, but I think it only raised about $100,000, $200,000. So very glad that Daniel Penney's has gone over $2 million.
Starting point is 00:10:19 It's showing where the pulse of the country is right now. Yeah, one of the comments that I saw on it when I wrote the story this morning was someone saying, I live in New York. I'm a Democrat. I don't I'm not a Christian. But I had some very terrifying interactions with Jordan Neely and Daniel Penny does not deserve this. I mean, I think it's interesting that specifically Jordan Neely, while it's sad that he is deceased and obviously we don't want anyone to experience violence like this, he has an
Starting point is 00:10:42 established criminal history. The fact that people were aware of who this was, that he has, you know, he punched some 60 year old grandmother. She broke her skull because of it. This isn't just like a random attack from, you know, some Marine veteran who's just decided to be aggressive. And this strikes a chord with a lot of people. I mean, this, this is a scenario in which anybody could be in that scenario. It happens every single day that there's a psychopath on the train. And you often wonder, what am I going to do if I have a loved one or if I have a girlfriend next to me?
Starting point is 00:11:09 Am I going to be prosecuted like Daniel Penny? I mean, but that's exactly what they want. This is an attack on self-defense. And so they want you to be able to submit to these random psychopaths that should be in asylums. Jordan Neely's GoFundMe fund me has 134 273 raised so i i think this fundraiser is fine they want to raise money for his funeral costs i think it's sad the dude died i don't want anybody to die this wasn't the case of some political extremist who was seeking to harm people like
Starting point is 00:11:39 going to a school and murdering children anything like. It was a guy who was just generally unwell and was rejected, like was dejected, rejected. And it's part of social decay. I blame the Democrats for a lot of what's happening. These NIMBY policies that have been going on for a long time that I've personally experienced
Starting point is 00:11:57 when I worked for nonprofits. But that's not for the individual him nor for Daniel Penny. This dude shouldn't have died. But I gotta stop and just say, whatever the reason, be you well or unwell, the individual him nor for daniel penny this dude didn't this dude shouldn't have died but i gotta i gotta stop and just say whatever the reason be you well or unwell when you go into a confined space and start threatening people saying you'll take their lives if three people are threatened by you that to the point where they think they must subdue you i mean that's it like you went
Starting point is 00:12:21 you aggressed you started this that being said if people want to raise money for this for this man's family and everything i think that's mighty fine i think it's sad that you know there's going to be costs associated with his loss of life and i wish this this kind of stuff didn't happen how do we solve that problem it's not solved by locking up daniel penny who was a victim in the matter trying to save other people it's definitely not um and the broader political motivations um really are just very gross because most people if they're honest with themselves when they really think about it if they were in that situation if they were in that train car they would feel much better about him being restrained than him running around and and
Starting point is 00:13:07 intimidating everyone on the on the train and and to say any differently is so dishonest i've seen some people on the left from some of the leftist shows listening to the ridiculous things that they say about this situation is it's really stomach turning it is it's well we had uh we had lance from the surfs on this show and he kept playing this manipulative game was it proportional did did uh does jordan neely's erratic behavior warrant being choked to death and it's like but daniel penny wasn't trying to choke him to death dan Daniel Penny actually tried to save his life. On video, you can see Penny and others try to save Jordan Neely after subduing him. One of the things that I heard that really set me off and offended my sensibilities the most,
Starting point is 00:13:57 someone was saying that it was bourgeois to think that they should be able to take the train without having to experience that kind of intimidation they it was characterized as discomfort because it was a an extremely leftist leaning person but it's it to think not only is it gross to think oh it's bourgeois to think that you should be securing your person right the very the fun most fundamental property you have is your own body and it's bourgeois to think that you should be securing your person first of all and second of all this is the type of transportation that people on the left are constantly saying that we need more of they don't want good i was gonna say i think we've probably all been on the subway in new york or in some major city and like yes there are occasionally people who are homeless
Starting point is 00:14:48 who are not well we're talking themselves whatever but the fact that multiple people called 9-1-1 is unusual like if the new yorkers are so calm and chill about this whole thing this must have really rattled them if they see this every day and you're not supposed to be offended by it the fact that there were multiple calls to 9-1-1 before there was a confrontation is indicative of a situation that is abnormal even for people who are like hey i'm not even gonna look at you we're gonna pretend you're not here i'm just gonna get on the train and go and this is gonna tim and mention something else that this is gonna tie into but it's this this idea on the left or actually this perspective on the left that is so detached from reality
Starting point is 00:15:25 and you see it in multiple arenas right right now we're talking about you know defense of your own life and defense of your own you know yourself to think that you don't have that right to think that the state should step in and put you in jail because you had the audacity to try to defend yourself and other people is it's a terrible terrible attack on on individual rights and i think that the more we can do to shut it down the better where were the social workers yeah i want to know i mean why weren't they why weren't they there sooner to your point why aren't people interested if you're supposed to be used to this uh every day isn't that sad that we would live in a humanity where you're watching someone suffer a mental illness?
Starting point is 00:16:05 Because that's what we've all agree on. Jordan Neely was extremely troubled, mentally ill. And your reality is that you think that we should just ignore it, that we should just pretend it's normal. So there was a I want to jump to this next story. But the first thing I want to do as we're leaning into it is point out that in San Francisco on the the bart train system somebody was uh making threats and wielding a cleaver threatening people and then slash someone i don't hear a peep from aoc or any of these democrats which brings us to this story from the daily mail san francisco da releases graphic footage of walgreen security guard shooting dead transgender shoplifter and says
Starting point is 00:16:41 she won't charge him because he was in mortal danger let me just tell you i'm not going to show the video i don't like showing that stuff the security guard walks calmly up to the to the shoplifter who's backing away with their hands up and then just pulls out his gun and shoots the person there's something really interesting about the political dynamics of how they handle this the security guard was black black. The shoplifter was black. And the DA is like, no, we're not going to do any charges. I don't know if race played a role
Starting point is 00:17:09 because the shoplifter was trans. So I don't know how the hierarchy of oppression matters here, but apparently not enough to warrant criminal charges after shooting this person. But Daniel Penny, who was protecting himself and others,
Starting point is 00:17:24 and not the two other people who assisted in subduing Daniel Penny. I'm sorry, Jordan Neely. Three people subdued Jordan Neely. Only Penny is being criminally charged in this story from San Francisco. No charges. I wonder if we will hear anything from Ocasio-Cortez or any other Democrat about this. Well, Curtis Saliwa of New York, he ran for governor of New York, I believe, or mayor of New York. He made a great point on Hannity recently where the Penny case is it has all the characteristics of a combustible story for the media.
Starting point is 00:18:00 It is a white on black self-defense case. And of course, this case is not going to meet any of that criteria that the media can eat up or, you know, weaponized to their advantage. So, of course, this story is going to go. Yeah, it's going to be go right under the covers. And when I think it was an Asian woman who was murdered when in New York, when the homeless black man shoved her in front of an oncoming train, I believe she was Asian. Media didn't didn't care Asian. Media didn't care. AOC didn't care. No Democrat outrage.
Starting point is 00:18:28 25th attempted murder or attempted murder and the second actual murder of shoving someone in front of a train. And they don't say a single word. 25th. What do you mean? 25 times in 2022. In one year, people were shoved in front of oncoming trains two of them died in new york in new york alone alone i've not heard of this yeah people have died by being shown no no no people were 25 died to the 25 but that's still a lot of times
Starting point is 00:18:58 when you live in new york and you hear the stories they're like these crazy people are will try to murder you. And then you're on a train sealed in and the guy outright issues death threats, which he did according to witnesses.
Starting point is 00:19:11 You're thinking, we better subdue this guy. And then Penny and two other men said his behavior was so alarming he must be subdued. And then after they did, they put him in the recovery position
Starting point is 00:19:22 to save his life and Neely was still moving around. And then when they brought him to the hospital, he ended up dying. What are you supposed to do if you live in New York? You keep hearing these stories about these murders or attempted murders. Just be like, better not make eye contact with this crazy person lest he try to kill me. That's New York City. I think that's the, I mean, that's kind of the general kind of operating system that
Starting point is 00:19:45 people go on in New York, right? You don't look at the homeless people and you just kind of hope that they don't notice you and just kind of head down, look in your phone and hope they decide not to follow you. I tell you, man, working for these nonprofits, the number one thing everybody knows when you see one of those guys on the street with a clipboard, no eye contact. The moment you make eye contact, they got you. You're walking down the street, you see that Greenpeace guy, if you look him in the eyes, they're
Starting point is 00:20:08 going to walk right up to you and you're like, ah, crap. Now, imagine that guy with the clipboard was actually a crazy person with a cleaver. And then imagine what your life is going to be like. But ultimately, it comes down to this. Genuine question. If everybody listening live or whatever, put a comment in.
Starting point is 00:20:23 And I think everybody knows the answer. Everyone's got a strong answer. Why Democrats don't address the crime as bad as it is and only in instances like Daniel Penny. Because society has already victimized the person that is committing the crime. The Michael Jackson impersonator, he was homeless. He had mental illness. He had been victimized by society multiple times.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Society didn't provide him the healthcare he needed. Society didn't provide him the housing that he needed. Society didn't provide him with food, with the things that he needs to sustain and stuff. So society has victimized this man already. When he is acting out it is immoral to allow a person that has an able is able-bodied does not have any kind of uh mental illness to put their hands on him and then kill him that is absolutely atrocious from the perspective of the left that is the exact logic that they use it is unacceptable that that man is victimized over and over and over he's
Starting point is 00:21:33 victimized by society he's victimized by his mental health condition and then to top it all off he is murdered by a privileged man that's. That is the exact thought process. That's exactly why they don't want him to be set free. It is absolutely disgusting, but that's what the lot, that's how the logic goes. You think they want Daniel Penny to pay the price for everything Jordan Neely went through?
Starting point is 00:21:58 Well, it to some degree, but it's, it's not that they want him to pay the price for all the stuff that Jordan went through. It's just that they want him to pay the price for all the stuff that Jordan went through. It's just that Jordan had suffered enough. So by defending by defending everyone's on the on the train and ending his life is adding only more victimization to him. It wasn't a good thing that Daniel tried to protect people.
Starting point is 00:22:21 It was a bad thing because it ended with his, with, with Jordan's death. That's the logic of the left of the left. And, and it may not make sense to you, but they're not liberals. And so they don't have the same philosophy that liberals do. And I agree, except for when it comes to like AOC,
Starting point is 00:22:37 I think she's just sitting there and she's like, she wakes up, looks through her phone. And then she goes, what's popular today. And then her boyfriend's like, Oh, there was like a homeless guy who tried to kill some people and then he died. She's like, and we're supporting him, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Oh, okay. That's because she's a communist apparatchik. That's why. She's just like, whatever gets me followers. Yeah. And then people suffer because of it. I think she's evil maliciously. I do think I think she is, too, because of the fact that they hide the fact that they're communists her comms director or whatever just recently came
Starting point is 00:23:09 out and joined the dsa or whatever the dsa is openly marxist we have actual communists in our government now and people think that i'm crazy for saying that there's communists like and you just have to listen to them do you think democrats avoid talking about crime in cities because they don't want to deter people from going there do you think this is the last thing that we'll be able to uh they can hold on to like i think they're trying to make people forget about defunding the police i mean the summer of love the summer the 2020 summer of love that was that was inspired by the democrat rhetoric do you feel like we're going into another one with this i mean i think they're trying to incite it at every turn. The protests in New York were pretty serious. I mean, they stopped trains. They walked across the bridge. I mean, they were disruptive to
Starting point is 00:23:51 transportation in a major city. I think it's the goal of the Democrats for at every turn when a situation like this that they can weaponize comes up, they want people to go and riot. I hope this situation with Penny can open the door to some major statewide precedent or maybe even federal which i doubt federal but maybe statewide about self-defense maybe this fight can turn into something some something more than just one guy being found not guilty or whatever maybe they'll actually say like here are the parameters by which you are able to defend yourself and charges cannot be brought because there's no grand jury indictment against Daniel Penny. The DA just said, oh, they're protesting? Arrest him.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Yeah, we can't stand for that. So hopefully we get more out of this. Right. Initially, they brought him in, talked to him, released him. And then they're like, just kidding. We're going to charge you. So he turned himself in. There needs to be pressure put on district attorneys that would behave in this way.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Most people that vote for da's and stuff like that if you're most of the time they're they're activists and they are actively seeking left leaning policies and these left-leaning policies things like you know uh getting allowing violent offenders to get bail or no cash bail and stuff they have consequences in the real world now this poor guy that the homeless guy like he had he had the deck stacked against him i don't want to come off like i'm i'm ignoring that fact because the guy did had you know everything going wrong for the poor guy but like you can't allow violent offenders to just be on the street and this guy like jordan had committed crimes he was a violent offender he had yeah and he was offered a treatment
Starting point is 00:25:33 program and then he left the treatment program and instead of instead of being incarcerated he was offered essentially rehab too many people on the left think that the lack of housing is why we have homeless people and that is not the case homeless people choose to do things that makes them remain homeless some of them actually choose to be homeless but some of them are on on drugs and if you're on drugs and you can't pay your rent that's and you don't quit the drugs that's choosing yeah that's choosing to be homeless because you're choosing to do drugs this is is another reason why George Soros has been targeting these DA races across the country, because a lot of the times I think people want the Congress to, you know, I see the frustration when they're saying, why aren't people being prosecuted or why aren't there charges being
Starting point is 00:26:18 brought against these folks when there are so many congressional investigations, but the Congress can only do so much. They're not another, they're not the law enforcement wing of the body of government. And so if you attack the DAs, you can win a lot of the culture war issues. If, if a case like Jordan Neely's comes across your desk, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a more serious effort to challenge or recall brag somehow,
Starting point is 00:26:42 because he is just really making everyone mad here, except for some people, I guess, who think he's doing a great job. We got a super chat. We normally save these for the end, but it's too good. It must be in the segment. James Wallace says they have to blame Penny because if it's not his fault, then it's theirs. It's true. That's a really, really good point.
Starting point is 00:26:59 If Penny isn't the bad guy, then how did something like this happen? If Penny is the victim, then the problem is their failed policies releasing dangerous, unwell individuals onto the streets. and they were never able to help him effectively is what is what this would mean right uh and i think there is some sort of inability to admit that right because if if they have had contact with someone since they were a at least as far as i know a young teenager all the way to now and they could not help this person in fact this person continued to commit violent acts against other citizens in jurisdictions that had their the policies that they prefer it's not like new york has a hard time taxing or finding a tax base uh or coming up with people that will vote for policies that provide for the homeless and provide for the people that need
Starting point is 00:27:58 mental i want to throw it to uh our good friend d Chappelle. Daily Mail says, what the F happened to this place? Dave Chappelle slammed San Francisco as half glee, half zombie movie, as surprise gig, as he recalls homeless person defecating outside Indian restaurant he was about to eat in. Dave Chappelle is a normal guy. He's not conservative. He's not right. He's not left. He was very critical of Candace Owens.
Starting point is 00:28:29 But when you get someone like Dave Chappelle looking around and then saying to everybody what the f happened to this place and they all laugh because they feel the same way yep i feel like we're winning i i mean actually i feel like we're losing i hope he added his encounter but people are waking up to it i hope he added that encounter to the poop map in san francisco it's like part of the red dot i i retweeted something that cnn had had uh posted about the multitude of businesses that had left uh left san francisco and i said it's because of crime and i got pushback from some of my friends and they're like how do you know and da da da it's like look all of the things that you can come up with that reasons why retailers are having problems that they're all real, right? But at the end of the day, if you have to buy cases for literally everything in your store, and so you can lock it up and you still get people coming in there and stealing things,
Starting point is 00:29:20 that means you have to worry about liability for your people that are working there. It is absolutely, I can't imagine how someone would say that it's not the crime being the deciding factor. Businesses absorb all sorts of costs all the time, taxes. And in San Francisco, it's not like it's cheap to do business in San Francisco. the overhead has got to be a nightmare but at the end of the day if you can't put people in the store without worrying about an interaction with criminals you know without actually worrying about people getting injured then you're not going to have businesses doing business in that location that's all there is to it and it's ridiculous outside of a restaurant too yeah it's ridiculous to try to argue anything. Do you feel like you'd ever go back to city? I know you're in D.C., but you grew up in Chicago, right? Yes, I grew up in the south side of Chicago, so I'm pretty familiar with terrible places across the country.
Starting point is 00:30:14 The people in Chicago. Normally, I'm saying it. Well, it's true. It's true. It's not a fun place to be. I don't like being outside at night for too long. Well, but the interesting thing about it is when you grow up with it you feel like it's normal you know what i mean yeah i interviewed a couple
Starting point is 00:30:29 that were from south africa and they said it's not as bad as people think we've only been carjacked i think five times and i was like what wow like but you're it's normal to you as bad as it is you can only get murdered once yeah that's it. But attempted murder can happen a lot. That's how scary it is in Chicago. I just feel like all these stories are reasons why people will rethink cities. I mean, if you have like a young teenager, right, and they want to go to college and they're like, I want to go to school in New York or San Francisco. If you're a parent, are you letting them? I mean, you can't make decisions more than they're adults.
Starting point is 00:31:02 But like, yeah, I think you'd be OK with that. Absolutely not. I just I can't imagine trying to start any kind of family in these cities is terrible i i take the jack posobiec advice and get out yeah i mean that's what i've been saying for a long time i i do feel like when it comes to the penny case one of the things that that got me to come around was let's keep the fight in the city so it's not out here because we are starting to see some of this pop up in the more rural areas you know i'm in eastern panhandle of west virginia and you've got people from dc who go there to escape what they've created but then they bring those policies
Starting point is 00:31:33 with them because they're not smart enough to realize they created them they're like let's bring all these policies here and so it's kind of like can we can we keep the focus in the cities and then you know what maybe even win some precedent at the larger level also i think defend protecting self-defense is imperative this this this case with penny isn't just about him personally first and foremost it is after after that it's we have to absolutely make sure that any issue of self-defense we win yeah if you wanted if you have any desire to protect your second amendment rights you absolutely must protect your right to defend your own life with your hands like if you have any hope of saving your your right to own a
Starting point is 00:32:14 firearm to defend yourself you have to make sure that your personal safety is your own property and you are allowed to defend it if if you if that, then you lose basically any rights to property at all. That means they'll take everything from you if they want to. The question I have with this story with Dave Chappelle is, I said it feels like we're winning. I said, well, actually, it feels like we're losing, but at least people are waking up to it. The first step in changing this stuff is regular people saying,
Starting point is 00:32:44 okay, hey, wait, something bad is going on here. The question then becomes, Dave Chappelle doing a comedy bit where he tells people who live there it's bad and they all laugh. Does that mean any of them will spur to action to stop this? Because if the answer is no,
Starting point is 00:33:06 then we're doomed. I think it's no. Yeah, I'm is no then we're doomed i think it's no yeah i'm pretty blackmailed i think it's also now i think that there are some people who think it's normal right like you don't notice how bad it's getting until you leave i was who was here uh one of the comedians was here you'll know his name he's a libertarian guy and dave smith yeah he was here he was talking about how he moved out of the city during covid and then he went back for some reason was like i don't remember how bad this was. Like, this seems like it's suddenly gotten worse, but it's because you walk past it every day and you're used to it. I think that's part of this. Like if you tell a crowd of people who live in San Francisco, yeah, your homeless population is really a problem. And it's kind of erratic behavior.
Starting point is 00:33:40 They're like, I know, crazy, right? Anyways, like it's just as usual. A lot of the denser urban areas in the south side closer and close to downtown in chicago i often felt smelled like sour milk i don't know if you ever noticed that i had the taco smell taco smell i mean taco smells pretty good though over there it's great yeah but and then in new york a lot of sour milk too and i don't know exactly why but that's why i also make the joke living in a concrete block stuck on top of each other smelling like sour milk because there are these areas that for some reason do i think with chicago for me it was because there were some schools and they would dump milk out like literally so
Starting point is 00:34:11 it smelled like sour milk i smell that all over new york like just trash and sour kind of smell and and in new york they put the garbage in front of their houses that's crazy that is weird right because we're used to alleys exactly in chicago we have alleys so you put your garbage out of mind yeah and then the garbage trucks go through the alleys to pick up all the trash new york they don't have that coyote way so dude go to go to go to occupy wall street the zuccotti park where that was going down and there's like a five foot tall pile of garbage outside of these restaurants because they got nowhere that's where they put it and then it just it's all piled up in the streets and the garbage trucks come to take it
Starting point is 00:34:49 it's it's nasty it looks like paris you know is that what paris is like yeah because they're all those protesters they're uh they're mad about their retirement age oh yeah i think the main smell in chicago is fear and anxiety always having to you know look over my shoulder make sure no one's following me yeah that's true but true. But then they vote for Brandon Johnson. So I'm not quite sure it matters. Yeah, yeah. It's like just when you think you thought you could save the city, you had some sliver of an opportunity to go to Paul Vallis.
Starting point is 00:35:15 But Brandon Johnson is worse than Lori Lightfoot. This is part of what makes me blackpilled on the cities and people who live there. And it's why last week I was like, i don't want to be involved in this thing i do think winning winning uh on a self-defense case in new york means winning for us i do think daniel penny should not be in prison i do think him winning his case sets precedent about the value of far-left protests and diminishes them at the same time though i still have to say these people in these cities like dave chappelle points out they still do nothing nothing yeah it's extremely frustrating i mean i both we're both from chicago i part of what made me a
Starting point is 00:35:51 republican was being from chicago you know getting out of the city and looking back as you said it's it is an eye-opener to see what you've gotten used to were you a republican when you grew up there um i i really well i wasn't uh i was really thinking about it that much until i was going off into college and thinking about my own life in the the world outside of chicago and realized it didn't have to be this way and do you feel like people you grew up with are similarly minded or do you feel like they're kind of like oh this is just the way life is yeah yeah i do think that they they feel like that that's the way life is and they've been so co-opted by this strange democrat message of you know if you're the democrat you're the good guy and the republicans are always the bad guy because those are the party of white guys and us minority you know the party
Starting point is 00:36:33 of minorities or can never do anything wrong on the democrats that's actually because of john stewart john stewart made made republicans and and conservative ideas toxic it's not actually the idea it's gonna have to take a lot to get these people to wake up. I don't know how much longer. I don't know if they will because so much of their lives is predicated upon tribal social adherence. That's what I call the woke cult.
Starting point is 00:36:57 The adherence to left liberal social orthodoxy with cult-like fervor. It doesn't matter what's true. It just matters that they say the thing that is right even if it's insane yes how do you how do you snap someone out of that you have to you have to have the integrity to say no to that to begin with you have to be the kind of person sitting at your computer at work and then someone says did you hear that donald trump said white nationalists are very fine people you have to be the person goes no that's not true he didn't
Starting point is 00:37:24 say that yeah i think we all have to be called they should be totally condemned it they should be totally condemned they're just saying some nonsense they are in the news you have to be willing to stand up and say guy you can't just say that that's not true a lot of people on the left don't know what is actually true because they believe things that propagandists tell them if you go through twitter right now there's a lot of people retweeting uh things that propagandists tell them. If you go through Twitter right now, there's a lot of people retweeting things that people said in like 2019, 2018. Because of the whole Durham thing that came out today. You know, people like Ezra Klein and the FBI that are people that you're supposed to respect. They are the, there are innumerable propagandists and the left is so uninterested in hearing
Starting point is 00:38:09 opposing views that they fall into the the narratives that are totally unbelievable and and i think that that's no good well i think that i think that that you need to give people that have been fed a load of propaganda for a lot for as long as you can remember you need to give people that have been fed a load of propaganda for as long as you can remember, you have to give them a way out. So it's like you want to be like, I totally agree. You do have to be like, no, no, that's not true. But you don't want to come at someone without giving them a way to walk it back and be like, oh, okay. So, you know, it's like it's better to look at it like a joke and give them an out. So that way they don't feel like you're going to stomp on them for being like, oh, maybe I was wrong.
Starting point is 00:38:48 I want to jump to this story and tread carefully. Ladies and gentlemen, I have a story for you about a young liberal leftist type social media content creator being destroyed so bad in debate he was at he admitted himself to the emergency room and then posted photos of him at the hospital with an iv and he claimed in a twitter space hosted by nuance bro we've had on the show before that 30 percent of the entire black population are unarmed and killed by the police every year. Yes, he is. This is from Gain of Fauci on Twitter. Yes, he is claiming that over 13 million unarmed black people are killed yearly.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Okay. The first thing I want to say is Nuance Bro swears every other word in this clip. Normally, we try to be family friendly, no swearing, but there's going to be a lot of swearing for you now because I do think you need to hear this. To this young man, Jeremy, who admitted himself to the ER, I will simply say, I hope you're doing better. You need to breathe, breathe in. The internet is not that serious. If people are criticizing you online because you were wrong about something, it's not the end of the world. You can always go play some soccer and breathe some fresh air. And maybe this job's not for you. But I think there is something profound
Starting point is 00:40:05 in this moment that is worth talking about. So I'm going to play for you now this clip from Nuance Bro on Twitter and then show you the chain of events which led to the leftist losing the debate so bad he went to the ER. All right, we'll play it. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:40:20 You're telling me 13.2 million black people are getting shot and killed unarmed every year. There's context to that. There's definitely context to those numbers. You're fucking crazy, dude. That's like a fucking holocaust. Every black person would be dead in like fucking three years. Like, what are you talking about? That's crazy. What are you saying? Yet we're still dying in random numbers more than white people. Jeremy. Do you know what the actual answer is? Cause I actually have the real numbers.
Starting point is 00:40:50 I like you've clearly never done. This is I'm, I'm fucking mind blown right now, dude. The real number by Washington post, keep tracks of this unarmed black people shot by police, men and women. It's usually like 10 people, it's like 10 maybe like 20 in a year sometimes it's like eight you know average is 10 or 13
Starting point is 00:41:13 million like 22 maybe like that's what it is not million like i want to pause real quick and point a few things this this individual jeremy is a content creator for Gen Z for Change, which is a liberal political action social media group. They try to argue that Gen Z is progressive. I think this is propaganda. I think the goal of a group like Gen Z for Change is to try and convince young people that all young people are progressive. And if you want to fit in, you have to be this way, too. Conservatives need to get on board with this. But let me let me play this for you so you can hear after being told 13 million black people are not being killed every year.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Listen to how he responds. That's just total. Do you believe that? I'm going to have to do more research if you send me the link. You were claiming like fucking what was the number, Jonathan 30 13.3 14 13.2 million you said 30 of the entire black population that is crazy roughly yeah i i actually believe that is insane like 20 to 30 percent legit if harry and chris were in here even he said i actually believe that like 20 to 30 percent double down they would be like dude what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:42:25 We got to tell at least the fire. This guy, this guy's fucking nuts. Like he's out of his fucking mind. He's smoking more crack than fucking Hunter Biden. That's Chicago's worth of black people. Yeah, I can't believe they don't have enough bullets to fucking do that. Probably is 15 to 20% fair then? No!
Starting point is 00:42:49 That was it. Lance wasn't as wrong as that poor guy is. This guy is like using a compromise. In math class, what grades did you get? I can't believe. Have you never talked to anybody about this issue? 15 to 20 percent is that more fair i only got to say two things i don't wish any ill will on on this guy
Starting point is 00:43:12 jeremy okay i don't he seems like he's a good guy he's a good good but good intent the path the house paved with good intentions i'll say the two i'll say two things one if you genuinely believe what you're saying you should probably resign this not is not the job for you following this this young man admitted himself to the er do i have a here we go he says my heart is racing this has not been a good night going to the er he then posted a picture of himself getting an iv and then posted a picture of himself in the emergency room. Okay. If you have to go to the emergency room because you were wrong about something, this is not the job for you. And I addressed this saying, I made an arrogant comment about the rate of unarmed black men being shot by police in this country. I own that mistake and I'm sorry I was wrong. He then goes on to mention, Tim mentioned
Starting point is 00:43:59 he got swatted, so he must understand this. Show some grace, grace please this is the point i made look this is not the job for you if that resulted in you going to the er we've had this place evacuated because of bomb threats we were swatted 15 times plus several other non-swatting incidents like bomb threats other fake calls that resulted in forced evacuation and dogs sent me to the building i never had a panic attack i never had a breakdown I never had to go to the hospital because of it. If that's you, man, and I'm saying this with all due respect, not derisively, I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:44:31 I don't think you should do this because it gets worse than it is now. Was he admitted for the same depression John Fetterman had? I don't know, but the point is simply this. Here's what I think happened. I think the reason he went to the ER, I think he probably, his heart was about to erupt from his chest.
Starting point is 00:44:52 I think this is exactly what I've explained with the social media crisis. Here's a young man. He's Gen Z. He's probably what? How old is he? He's probably 20 something years old. So he's eight or nine years old. 2008, 2009, perhaps. years old so he's eight or nine years old 2008 2009 perhaps that was the time when the only things you'd get on your social media feed was police brutality videos so these little kids
Starting point is 00:45:13 sat up for facebook for the first time and it's their first view of the whole world in a single picture and they get nothing but police brutality on facebook companies were making massive money off of this he then grows up in an environment of BuzzFeed, Mike Huffington Post and Vice saying the same thing over and over and over again. And he genuinely believes as he's older, there is a current Holocaust against black people going on. Why don't people care? Then he decides to debate it. and he tells people that he genuinely believes he said that 20 to 30 percent of black people are killed every year yo i gotta be honest if that was the case i would be out there with antifa and we would be like it's time to put an end i'd be in the civil
Starting point is 00:45:56 war we we would if there was that kind of stuff going on i'm already he's describing the civil war that's millions of people are dying so but so what happens then if 20 years of your life is proven wrong in an instant and you are being ripped to shreds mocked your entire life wrong your entire body of work wrong you have a mental breakdown you have a panic attack you fall to your knees you can't breathe what have i done with my life what is your life you go to the hospital i'm not surprised that happened to him and i am not surprised that someone whose life was just ripped from their chest had to go to the emergency room everything he thought was wrong everything it doesn't help that people like uh lebron james say that black men are being hunted in the street exactly you
Starting point is 00:46:44 know these young people genuinely think there's like a holocaust or something going on it's it's told that they're they're told over and over and over that they must be afraid of the police they must be afraid of basically just overall society because it's out to get you they are told that they have to be afraid of climate crisis where there's no wonder that that there's a mental health crisis with young people today because they've got this machine in their pocket that's just dumping the most doom and gloom stories you could possibly imagine all the time yeah think about it like what's going to happen it can go one of two ways um what do you think would happen to like a die-hard atheist
Starting point is 00:47:31 if the second coming actually happens like their whole worldview flashing before their eyes or for a christian to see the inverse all of their faith being ripped from them not to assert either it's true or not true i I'm saying to dedicate your whole life to a cause. And then in an instant, it is ripped from your soul. I mean, if you ever hear stories of people talking about leaving cults, right? If you were raised in a cult that has a very strong ideology and belief, coming to the other side can be really traumatizing and shocking because everything you've ever known is false.
Starting point is 00:48:01 I mean, the thing that stands out to me the most about this is the double think right it's uh he hears that the number is basically 10 unarmed black people are killed by police each year and he lowers his stats by 50 so he goes from 1.3 million to like no it's 13 million 13 million to to he said he went from 30 to 20 to 30 yeah to 15 he's like okay you said it's 10 so i'll say it's 6.5 million and we'll call it a day like he does not need stats or logic to back him up and that's what i find concerning if if he was taught by someone oh it's 30 million black people and he knows the basic population of black people in the world or in america he should be able to figure out how much that is where did this number come from you'd be able to see that it's false you would you'd be
Starting point is 00:48:44 hear about it non-stop and when confronted with the actual information he's like well i'm not as i'm not completely wrong i'm only partially wrong it's 15 it's half of what i said it was which is still wrong nothing that would be wrong by millions wrong by millions it's not just wrong the actual number he's still going to stick with most of what he said just to point out his group was also this gen z for change i think they were previously called tiktokers for biden no he described it as they the media called them tiktok they called him that just he's and he got roasted for this because he said we were called tiktok for biden but we are non-partisan just trying to get young people blah blah this is what the democrats do better than conservatives conservatives are so are so
Starting point is 00:49:23 stodgy and uncool like look man i i was at the skate park the other day and i'm skateboarding and there's a bunch of young people there wearing jeans baggy t-shirts they got chain wallets i kid you not i saw a couple kids wearing i couldn't survive i was like it's the 90s all over again there's hope but this is where young people are excited and and having fun and looking up to people. There's no conservatives there. The only politics you'll probably hear in these places if it does come up is going to be leftist. You get Gen Z for change. They go to young people
Starting point is 00:49:52 and say, they show pictures of young people you want to fit in, you got to believe these things. Conservatives, what do they do? They show up wearing suits to the school saying, I'm very cool with my suit. Kids don't look up to that. Sorry dude, like this is what i see when i all these conservative you know action groups or whatever they're all wearing
Starting point is 00:50:09 suits and it's just like this is not how regular people act and young people aren't looking up to you the same way if you're going to young people wearing a suit the only people that you're going to attract is young people that would want to wear a suit see i think there are young people in this sphere that you're talking about who are like not wearing suits. They're more, you know, they want to wear flannels and do whatever. You know, they look aesthetically hipster, let's say. But they are afraid to call themselves conservatives. They say, oh, well, I'm, you know, traditional or I'm libertarian, but I lean more this way. They are afraid of being labeled with the word conservative.
Starting point is 00:50:45 And so they avoid it, right? It's the opposite of what happens with being a young liberal. You want to seem like the coolest, hippest, most progressive young liberal. And even if you look aesthetically the same, you're standing out with your politics. I think you have conservatives who would fit that aesthetic mold. They are just afraid to reveal themselves. So what we have now is Vivek Ramaswamy saying, if you want, if you're between the ages of 18 and 25, you got to pass a civics test to vote.
Starting point is 00:51:08 After that, you can vote. I don't think that solves the problem. I don't think age determines. I think there's a correlation between age, knowledge and wisdom, but it's not absolute. There's a lot of really young people who are very smart and have worked really hard. They shouldn't be excluded from voting or forced to take a test. At the same time, if there's going to be a requirement it should be for everyone no matter what you know i don't care but where we're at now is the right tends to be like look man these young
Starting point is 00:51:33 people you need to prove you know what you're talking about and the left is like 16 year olds should vote because the democrats thrive off of ignorant voters who don't know they're being lied to. Yep. I tend to agree that there should be a test, a civics test. I don't think that there should be an age limit or anything like that. I don't even know about a civics test. I feel like what kind of test? The reason the reason the reason the reason that I want to test the reason that I think
Starting point is 00:52:03 there should be a trust the people giving the test. The reason that's why I when I talked with Vivek Ramaswamy about this before, one of the things we that he brought up was maybe when you sign up for the selective service, you get a voter card and male and female. You both have to do it, but you don't have to do it. If you choose not to sign up for the for the selective service, no voter card. You do sign up. You get a voter card. Plain and simple. The reason that's a good idea i think it's important for people to know the way really understand the way that our system works and the reason is because right now we got people that get so upset because someone gets elected and they don't get the
Starting point is 00:52:38 results that they were hoping for and then someone else gets elected and they don't get the results that they were hoping for and the reason is because they're hoping for things that the politician they're voting for does not have the power to do. The politicians constantly make promises about things that they don't have any authority to do. And then they go ahead and get voted on that pretext. if more people that voted understood what a politician does and does not actually have the capability to do they would at least have some kind of reasonable expectations as opposed to we could just elect this guy and then he'll go ahead and fix the climate or make the sun come down you know like something really stupid i think this is where a lot of high schools have a civics requirement right like for most high schools you have to pass a civics course to graduate. This was true in, you know, the state I grew up in. I think it's true in
Starting point is 00:53:28 Massachusetts. Most of the high school curriculums, you have to specifically pass a civics. Maybe it's not true everywhere. I don't think they're teaching the civics. Are you teaching it effectively, right? I mean, what do you actually need to know to be an effective voter? I do think that we should, if we're going to have a government, our government should be encouraging people to pursue our values. And one of your values should be engagement in your community. So I don't think some kind of civic component to voting, whether it's just literally being aware of what the rules are or, you know, selective service, being in the military. I know Vivek had first responders.
Starting point is 00:53:58 I don't think that's unreasonable. I think we have just we're fighting a culture of apathy. People feel like they should have the right to vote, even if they don't really ever check the polls or see what's going on in their local community. I like the idea, we talked about this last week, you have to be a net taxpayer to vote. So think about how that would work. If the left might be like, oh, that's not fair, you know, then the poor people will get screwed over.
Starting point is 00:54:20 No, they won't. If the people who are net taxpayers say, we're not going to allocate any tax funds to poor people, no social programs, no welfare, all of a sudden, it becomes very, very easy to become a net taxpayer. If you're not receiving any benefits from the government, that puts you at zero. If you then make 10,000 thousand a year you become a net taxpayer and you vote if everyone then votes to allocate more funding to people who are impoverished poor people become not net taxpayers they become tax liabilities or burdens i'm not trying to be mean when i say that but they're now taking more in taxes than they're giving now they don't vote because they're
Starting point is 00:55:01 recipients of the system so it creates a kind of balance in and of itself. I'm not saying it's a perfect idea. It was an interesting idea, but I think it could potentially work. And then the only people who are voting are those who are actually paying into the system for which other people get to live off of. A lot of the problems that we're seeing or a lot of the problems you see with voting are not, you know, it's not new. These ideas were all things that the founders had thought about, talking about a well-informed electorate and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:55:31 These are all the problems and talking about things like when the electorate realizes they can vote themselves, benefits from the government and stuff like that, they're of course going to do that. All these things have been predicted or tried to be prepared for in our our constitution. And the government has continuously voted to give people some kind of benefit or some kind of, you know, some kind of something out of the out of the government coffers. And it's not just, you know know welfare for poor people or whatever this is talk i'm talking about uh benefits for a company for entire industries to try and get them to you know have a spur on certain um you know industries and stuff so the idea that the the government or that the population voting is going to fix the problem. I'm not sure because they, they vote for,
Starting point is 00:56:26 you know, vote for the things that get them the benefits. And that's part of what our government has become. You know, so you take that away. I mean, let's, let's jump to the story about Bud Light.
Starting point is 00:56:36 So we got this tweet from Ashley St. Claire with this picture of Bud Light cases of 24 packs with a rebate on them. She said the Bud Light marketing team must still be all women if they think a coupon will get a man's attention. It's very funny. But then someone said rebate. And I think it's something like same thing. But assuming this is true, and I've heard this from multiple people already. It says easy to drink, easy to enjoy.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Get $20 back via rebate. I don't know what the stipulations are, but if this is a rebate on a case of Bud Light, that would imply that Anheuser-Busch is taking a loss on cases of Bud Light to move product. I want to stress, unconfirmed, but I have heard from numerous people they have seen similar things. Personally, in my experience, what I've seen is major discounts. I was at a liquor store a couple days ago. We were picking up, it was yesterday actually, we were picking up Gatorades to go skate.
Starting point is 00:57:30 And I was like, ooh, ooh, where are the Bud Light ads? And sure enough, there were big sale, sale, sale, Bud Light, huge discount. And some lady actually bought a whole bunch. When I saw this, I had to wonder. With Bud Light sales dropping every week for the past month and a half, Anheuser-Busch is thinking, what can we do to reverse those numbers? Several things are happening. They're not moving product, so they're not selling. If the product just sits there, it goes bad. They're losing money. They need to just get rid of it. If it's old, get rid of it. So what do you do? Okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:58:02 How about free beer? You buy buy it send in the rebate we give you your money back effectively making the beer free but giving them sales metrics so next week when the sales come out they'll say bud light sales went up don't do it i'm doing my part by shaming people who buy bud light how do you you shame them? Just boo them? You hang out at liquor stores and just boo people? Actually, yeah, boo. You just hit on them. You just ask them, like, hey, where's the, you know.
Starting point is 00:58:32 That's funny. But yeah, so I think the issue now with Anheuser-Busch is that they have created something that people just don't want to be seen participating in. Now, let me jump to this next story here we have this uh nope that's the wrong one where we at here we go we have this ad from miller light
Starting point is 00:58:51 looks like miller light has jumped into the woke beer game so this ad started going viral and uh i will now just uh play the ad for you i suppose and then grace you with the the video why would you come to this? Here's a little known fact. Women were among the very first to brew beer ever. From Mesopotamia to the Middle Ages to colonial America, women were the ones doing the brewing. Centuries later, how did the industry pay homage to the founding mothers of beer?
Starting point is 00:59:21 They put us in bikinis. Wait, wait, they put you in bikinis? Like women don't buy bikinis? They're forced into them? No, we only buy them because the patriarchyinis. Wait, wait. They put you in bikinis? Like women don't buy bikinis? They're forced into them? No, we only buy them because the patriarchy. Come on, Tim. No, you don't buy them. They force you to wear them.
Starting point is 00:59:31 That's true. Wow. Like women don't like wearing that? Look at this. Wild. It's time beer made it up to women. Okay, here's what you do. Sorry, is there like a lot of money in women buying beer that I don't know about? Go to the beach.
Starting point is 00:59:47 And when you see women in bikinis, go, I'm so sorry a man made you wear that. No, that's normal. I've heard about this for years. The only reason the bikini exists is because women are always trying to dress for men. And therefore, the patriarchy is making women, I don't know, unhappy. Well, here's the rest of the ad. So today, Miller Lite is on a mission to clean up not just their s**t, but the whole beer industry's s**t. Miller Lite
Starting point is 01:00:08 has been scouring the internet for all this s**t and buying it back so that they can turn it into good s**t for women brewers. Literally, good s**t. How, you ask? Ladies, take it away. First, we turn the bad s**t into compost. Then we feed compost to worms. Push s**t
Starting point is 01:00:24 out. Beautiful fertilizer. That good sh** helps farmers grow quality hops. Which has been donated to women brewers to make their own really good sh**. But there's definitely more sh** out there. In your attic, in the garage, in your parents' basement. Send any sh** you got into Miller Lite and they'll turn that into good too so here's to women because without us there would be no beer okay i so so this is actually this is from march
Starting point is 01:00:57 this might be true this might be a hot take this might be a hot take miller light is actually doing a better service to women in this ad than bud light with their dylan olvenia i got what you're saying fair but also no thank you but i don't care about this yeah i saw this ad and i was like whatever i guess like they're trying to sell beer to feminists or whatever like women don't want to buy the super bowl i'm sorry do feminists buy tons of beer like is this like the market industry that they have no no you got it wrong the issue is they don't. They're trying to get them to. I don't think they understand
Starting point is 01:01:28 how this works at all. Well, no. The idea is this. The marketing guys come in and say, hey, women don't buy our beer. What do we got to do? We got to make a more pro-woman beer. The marketing guy says, here's our research showing you what women want. Okay, then let's do this women's empowerment thing.
Starting point is 01:01:44 I don't care about it let them do it i'm just gonna tell you this are you are you i will not drink the beer that comes from these women brewers because it was brewed garbage that's literally what the ad says the ad says they're taking magazine clippings newspaper and old cardboard cutouts composting it down to grow vegetables with i don't like it when my food. I don't like it when my food comes from garbage. I like it when my food comes from like, like normal fertilizers and like the earth. To put it simply, if you take a bunch of magazine clippings that are full of inks and other chemicals and then compost them and grow things from that, I kind of feel like that will leach into the
Starting point is 01:02:21 product you're consuming. And I don't even like plastic bottles. So, yo, I'm not going to buy. You're telling me not to buy beer from women who brew beer because you're giving them garbage hops. Yeah. Also, they're donating them to women. Women need extra help brewing beer. So we're going to send them extra materials. Like, how could anyone like this ad? I just don't get it at all.
Starting point is 01:02:40 I understand what you're saying. They're trying to say, like, women, it will be empowering if you drink beer because really the real feminist drink is beer. And I think that is clever if not effective. It's the dumbest thing in the world because it is constantly telling women Are women just easily manipulated? I just don't get it.
Starting point is 01:02:57 It's like the establishment is constantly telling women the best way to be a woman is to try to be like a man drink the drinks that men drink go to work like men sleep around like men want to what the hell is going on like why is it that society keeps telling women just be like dudes well no they're like be like us feminists join our cult be a feminist be a feminist be a feminist be a feminist that's the only thing you ever hear with women's movements.
Starting point is 01:03:27 It's always about being a feminist. You never hear the other angle. There are very few outlets that are saying like, be feminine, embrace traditional roles. All guys want you to be feminine. Except that you are different from men and therefore you have different talents and skills. Like instead it's like, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Now we got to get into the beer industry. Even if you don't like it, drink a beer, put those seltzers down. Like, i just don't understand how this is appealing who cares if women made beer a hundred thousand years ago i don't i'm not gonna drink it if i don't want to and you selling magazine fertilizers or donating to women's like it's it reminds me of tom's shoes they're like oh but it's important because we give a shoe away and so therefore you feel good like if they're trying to get all of these arguments to make women drink beer, I really think we should just stop. Make a different product for women.
Starting point is 01:04:10 They don't want to drink beer. That's okay. Girls. Leave them alone. Peach Bellinis are better anyways. And if you like beer and you're a lady, that's great. Don't drink this beer though, because this is garbage. Literally.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Literally. This is the same woman that was advocating for women to grow their armpit hair out oh yeah good yeah i don't know her name but whoever they tapped for this ad say women there's a secret ingredient in this uh women stop being like women like now all of you have to go to a bar and buy a woman whatever type of beer this is and be like here a miller light i got this because i believe in women it's now the male i respect women so i will buy miller light i just assumed you wanted a miller light did you know that women brewed beer but if i really don't like women i'll be getting a bud light oh my god yeah
Starting point is 01:04:55 i like i just like i just don't understand why the like all of the advertisements that you see are trying to get women to be more like men i think and trying to get women to be more like men. And trying to get men to be more like women. This is what I mean. Unless there's a secret society of female beer drinkers who have tons of money that's untapped by this market, stop. Sell them something they actually want.
Starting point is 01:05:18 But I think you misunderstand. They're trying to get new people to buy their product. I'm saying that I don't think it will be an effective conversion rate. I think they were better off investing that marketing money in a product that women are actually already buying. I disagree with that. I think any company that's selling a product is asking itself, what can we do to get our product in the hands of the opposite sex? So like Bic razors, for instance, they're like men shave their faces. Can we sell this product to women? Sure. They shave their legs and armpits. Let's promote that idea. And then they run an ad campaign saying, shave your armpits.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Yeah, but that's why Bud Light launched the seltzer initially. When there was the seltzer craze, they launched seltzer because they're like, more women drink the seltzer. So we'll make them a specific product that is under our umbrella. They did not see a sudden rise of people running to Bud Light. They just decided that at some point they were going to make them their target audience. I just don't think that's effective. I don't have a business degree.
Starting point is 01:06:04 What's not effective about it is insulting men and women to run an ad. If like they did that commercial with that guy, Miles, what's his face and his wife, and they're like dancing and drinking Bud Lights together. That's how you market to women. Not this. Not Dylan Mulvaney.
Starting point is 01:06:20 That just offends people. I just can't even imagine Dylan Mulvaney being compelling to women. I can't see this being compelling, but I know there are women will be like, what? No way. We started brewing beer first and then men took that from us and they will feel an outrage.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Like they're playing instead of on what we're talking about with the, I don't remember the actor, but he's in Top Gun. That ad is aspirational, right? You're like with your man and you're having fun and it seems fun like women want that they want to aspire up right this one is saying like be resentful and bitter and buy her beer and i just don't want to live a life like that it's a good point that's not the reason you want to drink a beer yeah they're just
Starting point is 01:06:57 trying to market you being unhappy and i feel like that's a negative spin here miller light yeah yeah i mean i i just i don't see i don't see it really converting a lot of people i don't see a compelling you know also are they just like assuming their male audience is going to be all male feminists and be like oh man cool we'll keep buying this to support the women great bait for social media though whoever made that ad i mean did this this was this was old and this yeah march actually ran or was it okay yeah nobody cared yeah and i gotta be honest i still don't care like people are calling for a boycott of miller light i'm like why i mean look don't drink the garbage beer
Starting point is 01:07:35 like that i get if you go to if you go to like a women brewery this is the problem now if i ever go to a brewery it's like women owned i'm I'm going to be like, did you get hops from Miller? Cause like, I don't want magazine clipping chemicals in my beer. You know, I don't know. Maybe the plants filtered out, but look, we've got septic tank out here with, it's a leach field. Anybody who has septic knows about leach fields. It's where it runs off. And they tell you not to grow things there because, you know, it's gross.
Starting point is 01:08:03 They tell you not to, but if you watch the way the grass grows above your leech field compared to the other places you know you're mowing that like two three you want to get out there like well actually the dandelions are crazy it's probably it's a lot of water yeah and moisture but you know like generally don't eat vegetables because it's absorbing a lot of the stuff that's coming up there i think the same thing is true if they're taking magazine clippings from the 80s or whatever, and then composting it and then trying to make beer out of it. That like, I'm just not into that. They're just sprinkling lead painted while they're at it.
Starting point is 01:08:33 They're like, it's fine. So now you have a guy and it's like, I like going to this brewery because I'm by women, but you know, she gets her hops for free from Miller and it's made of old newspaper clippings. I'm not, I don't want to drink that. I just think it's weird that they're pretending this is like a local brewer's thing. We're going to help local lady brewers by giving them our multi-million dollar hops.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Lady brewers. Hey, that's what they are, right? Apparently that matters, you know. Or is it just you only change it when it's men? It'd be men brewers and they would just be the brewers because they started it. Remember, women started brewing beer
Starting point is 01:09:04 before anyone could think of it. Back in ancient Mesopotamia, apparently. Let's jump to this next story. This is a big story. I don't think anybody really cares, but I think we have to talk about it anyway. It's from timcast.com. Vice Media has filed for bankruptcy. Reached a deal with creditors, including Soros Fund Management, to purchase assets.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Can you guys guess how much money they uh are going to be spending on purchasing vice have you guys read this do you know what the number is i do because i have videos do you know the number is 200 million it's zero what it's zero dollars wait say that one more time zero soros fund management and i Forge is the other company, loaned Vice money, and Vice has defaulted on those loans. So the acquisition comes with the loan as credit towards the purchase. So they're calling it $225 million, but that money was given to them four years ago. So they're basically assuming ownership of Vice because Vice is in default. That's a major implosion.
Starting point is 01:10:04 It's just like get woke go you had advice weren't you yeah i was what do you think of this this downfall i think vice was this edgy punk rock brand that everybody wanted to work at and one by one they excised from the company people who made it fun and brought in stodgy woke psychopaths and turned the company in to plastic garbage that nobody wanted to associate with or read and this is what you get from a 5.7 billion dollar evaluation to nothing hey man sometimes woke things make money but it's true. But typically, you get woke, you go broke. I could not imagine what it must be like to have driven Vice up to $5.7 billion, to be named as the up-and-coming CEO of the hottest media property who is now worth $2 billion,
Starting point is 01:10:57 to be listed in Forbes as a billionaire, and then only a few years later to zero to be fair i think the uh i think shane smith is probably still worth tens of millions of dollars so good for him i don't think it's all to worry about but it must be crazy to work on something for three or four i think four decades yeah we're talking about 30 some odd years about 30 years more than that Yeah. And then just have nothing to show for it in the day. I mean, look, the company's going to operate. I think the Soros Fund management is going to rip the company to shreds, sell everything off to recover their losses. You don't think they're going to build it up again? Nope, absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:11:41 It's a garbage property now. Vice, when I joined back in 2013, was the gold standard, the golden name in advertising. You wanted your ads on Vice. It was young. It was hip. The kids were there. Now, it's embarrassing to be associated with Vice. Who wants to run ads on that? And they got no other.
Starting point is 01:12:02 It's not only that. I wonder why it is they didn't do a membership drive thing like buzzfeed tried to do sorry nobody wants to donate to you vice who wants to hang out with the hall monitor i'm not going to be paying for fake news that's for sure like who wants to hang out with the people that that employ people literally to monitor what other people are doing and tattletale on them. If you say a naughty word on the internet, Vice will be there. You have a shitty opinion. Vice will be there to tell everybody
Starting point is 01:12:29 and monetize your dumb idea. It's good riddance to bad rubbish. Does Vice's collapse create a vacuum that another company is going to fill? Like, is there a runner up to Vice? My opinion is no, but I'm not, but I don't see any, i don't see that that was kind of unique in its origin yeah but it's not it doesn't it's not leaving the true vacuum i think
Starting point is 01:12:50 that um that we lose out on i i love the vice documentaries on youtube for for a while those are really really good no matter what the subject was their their website after you know a few years recently became hot trash but i mean i i still haven't seen that kind of replication of documentaries in a while. Right. That's what I think. I think there is a space where vice way back in the day really dominated. And that's why they had this fresh, attractive reputation. It's not, it's not like there's anything that's going to be, it's not like they had a position that needs to be filled now.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Like currently they haven't been new and irreverent and risk-taking in many years. Like the Tucker vacuum. Yeah, it's not exactly. it's not like the tucker vacuum i mean granted it's a totally different you know arena tucker and vice but still there's not it's not like vice has been doing anything that you know and media matters or whoever like that's all it is it's like vice and media matters were were the same people they're all interchangeable because their opinions were all the same and the same thing with cnn and and msnbc the the things the people that you would see on like msnbc's website that don't make it to the air on their their cable channel it would
Starting point is 01:13:55 would absolutely be the same people that you would see writing for vice or see doing stuff for vice so it doesn't really matter you know who it is it's not like there's going to be missing uh you know they weren't people who weren't watching for a reason you know do you think people are craving that kind of uh content and information in this day and age like the vice documentary sphere i think so i mean they were i didn't know that i was looking for that kind of content when i first found it but it definitely captured the attention and unfortunately what captured the attention nowadays is videos like tiktok uh or or you know weird you know vox documentaries now um but there there is there is that vacuum and i i do remember it also reminds me of netflix in the early days when their early documentaries were you know their
Starting point is 01:14:40 original series were pretty great but now it's just all these obama funded movies that you know i'm not going to be watching soon. So there is a vacuum that is created by Vice. Do you think it's the corporate structure that takes out that unique perspective? Or do you think just as the company gets bigger, they change what they're interested in promoting? Yeah, well, I think based off what Tim says, that's definitely the case. And I see with a lot of these YouTube content creators as well, where they start a channel that balloons into a multi-million dollar business. And then they have to, by the virtue of their growth, get some of these corporate heads involved. And it strays away from what the original spirit of the content was.
Starting point is 01:15:20 And I definitely think that's what happened at Vice. Do you find that's true in your line of work, like working for a congressman? Do you think your messaging changes each year or do you think it's like pretty consistent? No, I think it's consistent. I mean, it's pretty easy when you just have to listen to the American people and reflect what they feel. But when you first started working with Gates, did you have to kind of learn his tone or did you feel like you personally already? No, I know my tone is the MAGA movement. You know, I'm a I'm a warrior of, a warrior of the ultra MAGA folks out in the country. And so I honestly think that how I feel is how a large majority of our people feel. And so it wasn't ever hard for me to wonder what the American people thinks on an issue.
Starting point is 01:15:56 You kind of just get it. And if I had thoughts on a certain issue, go back to the district and see what the constituents think. Yeah, that's interesting. Do you think that Netflix or Vice would have benefited from being able to do that like going back to their audience and saying what do you want us to be doing yeah i think so but i think ultimately money talks yeah i think so too are you guys on tiktok over at matt gates good god no absolutely not well tiktok is an entity of the ccp so we're never going to be on TikTok, probably. That's where all of Gen Z is.
Starting point is 01:16:27 It is true. Well, I don't want to be there. I don't want to aid and abet TikTok. So I think regardless, it is a, I do feel it as a comms director wanting to get that audience. But, you know, at the same time, you have to think about what you're benefiting. And I think ultimately there are just too much of an evil for me to be able to participate in. And I'll find avenues elsewhere that that organization Gen Z for Change says that 40 percent of Gen Z gets their news from TikTok and Instagram. I believe that. That's why TikTok bans people who go against the establishment. They are trying to realign politics.
Starting point is 01:17:04 And I think we should ban tiktok i agree and there's a certain reason why they operate tiktok how they do in the united states and they operate a different way in china it's a different company in china their version it's something else but i think if you look at vice vice is what happens when the market has an opportunity to decide whether or not woke content should survive the answer is no tiktok is what happens when the market has an opportunity to decide whether or not woke content should survive the answer is no tiktok is what happens when the market doesn't it just becomes the dominant app and then they start removing any and all competition politically but nobody wants this stuff i just man the end of an era man do you think that there's a replacement device nope no you don't
Starting point is 01:17:43 think there was like someone picking up the... TimCast News. Yeah, maybe we can start doing some fun travel adventure documentary stuff. Yeah, well, your site has been totally revitalized, I believe. I think I've seen TimCast News more on my feed than I have at any other point. I don't know. I mean, we just do our thing. You know, Hannah Clare writes stuff.
Starting point is 01:18:02 Me and all of the other journalists. It's great. And you should follow at TimCastNews on Twitter and twitter and instagram thank you i'm so glad that you do that vice wasn't always news vice used to be sex drugs and rock and roll it was the underground so when they started doing these travel shows it was still just the underground it was like traveling to a foreign place to follow some crazy story and meet some crazy people they weren't the biggest stories in the world they would go and meet a guy who sold shrunken heads and it's like whoa what a crazy story it reminds me more of what like shane cashman does you know he is interested and he pursues pursues it wherever it goes i mean his story about finding confederate gold like that's
Starting point is 01:18:38 not mainstream news on the other hand it gives you such an insight into the world around you and especially niche communities maybe we should just do that we'll send shane on little adventures of the camera send hannah clear to north care uh north korea just send me to north carolina that's like not that far i'll go two hours yeah three hours maybe five i think it's five politely phil doesn't expect me to go too far come back and report for the show right i'm like live on the ground reporting from north carolina go to go to north carolina here it is tell me are the mountains actually as misty as they say right well i mean i think about this when i first moved to west virginia i always talk about um mothman right and you can drive across state of west virginia and see the town that is
Starting point is 01:19:18 incorporated into legend of mothman i mean every state has sort of their own weird weird histories and and small conflicts that you can find a lot of stuff that isn't filling this breaking new space. You know, I like writing about policy and I like being able to write out there. I'm really grateful for the flexibility that I have. But, you know, sometimes there are issues that people don't necessarily care about until you write a compelling story about them. And again, like I'm going to shout out Shane Cashman here. I think that's something he does really well.
Starting point is 01:19:47 There are stories that aren't urgent, but at the same time, if you read them, it can really shape your perspective. And I think that's what you're saying was interesting about the Vice documentaries. You should definitely check out Shane's part on Riff Raff. Riff Raff is hilarious. So you should check it out. Definitely. Do you feel like that's something that you guys are balancing, like trying to stay in the news cycle? Or do you feel like you guys are sort of dictating the news with what you're doing in Congress? It's a little both.
Starting point is 01:20:15 Yeah. I mean, I never get like a lot of the times when you see breaking news on TV, I'm seeing it at the same time. So a lot of the times you're doing some of the influencing and you're doing some of the reacting yeah um and you're not on tiktoks you're not chasing the dance trends or anything like that no i i'm more of a i come from the uh trump war room so i was trained over there and i'm used to seeing like every major news channel on the same screen so that's pretty much my same setup in the capital so i'm monitoring all the news at the same time and not really focusing on one source what's with the aoc and matt gates being besties now coming together on that bill where are these friendship bracelets yeah i i think everyone needs to to get on board with this i mean the american people see don't trust the congress and i think banning members from owning
Starting point is 01:21:01 and trading stocks is something a small thing that we can do um to try to regain some of that trust have you uh tried to come up with ways that they would manage to get around the legislation because it's my i mean i would assume that if there is legislation passed that says you can't own they can't trade or whatever i imagine there would be they would have agents that would do the trading or whatever yeah usually it's by a spouse the paul pelosi method actually so i mean i i do believe the legislation does include the provisions to also prevent family members from being able to do that loophole uh and i'm not just to preface this i'm not a legislative person i'm on the communication side so i get the uh i get the
Starting point is 01:21:44 smart people to boil it down for me. But no, we have thought of some of those provisions as well. And yeah, it's, you're going to find a lot of the times with the, with this, with legislation on Capitol Hill is,
Starting point is 01:21:54 is loopholes is the death of the bills. When, once it actually becomes implemented. And so that is good that we want, we do want to think about every way that they can get around that. Yeah. I mean, as soon as legislation is written,
Starting point is 01:22:07 there are people that are, you know, trying to come up with ways to get around it in, you know, especially when it, when money is, is in question. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:16 And accountability. Yeah. And transparency. That's not Congress's strong. None of those are Congress's strong points. So no, but I, I think,
Starting point is 01:22:24 I think it is a good thing that Gates and AOC are coming together. Who else would you guys work with, do you think? Well, on this bill specifically, the sponsor is Brian Fitzpatrick. So he's more of a centrist Republican and Raja Krishnamoorthi, an Illinois Democrat. And so you kind of have all these sectors, I think, that Tim was touching on earlier. The center, the establishment, the right, the progressive. You know, I think it's a pretty big coalition that we got so far. And I think a lot of the a lot of the people are very interested in what we have to say about that.
Starting point is 01:22:55 So what's your relationship like with the other offices, so to speak, any Democrats that you guys kind of talk to? Is there a lot of communication or is this sort of a breakthrough for both sides? No, honestly, it kind of caught me by surprise how big it was going to be. I just thought that this legislation was just so common sense that, you know, people would say, you know, I'm on board with it, but it was pretty big deal to see two names on the legislation together. But personally, I mean, I know the Congressman, he has a lot of great relationships across the aisle. And so he works with anyone and everyone when it comes to keeping the congress more accountable to the american people or you know pulling our troops out of forever wars he'll work with anyone and everyone to get our troops out uh of these foreign
Starting point is 01:23:33 conflicts and so i think we need to see more of that yeah so do you have advice for people who want to be in your position like if someone is watching this and wants to work for a congressman because you have kind of a unique like you just threw yourself into it story yeah yeah i mean i have zero before i got into this i had zero political connections i you know i'm the first in my family to work in politics um you know i really just saw that trump inspired me to come to dc fight the establishment and what we now see as a very weaponized deep state and you didn't even you you didn't complete i mean do you want to talk about that story yeah no yeah i I was proudly kicked out of college. So I was,
Starting point is 01:24:07 the, the story is a little long, but in the fall of 2017, I was a freshman at the university of Illinois, Urbana Champaign. And I was reporting for what is known as a campus reform. It's a project of the leadership Institute. And there was a protest being held on the anniversary of trump's election
Starting point is 01:24:26 on campus and it was being hosted by the campus uh professors who are openly marxist openly waving antifa flags on campus um and so i did what i always do i go to report stand in the back take a few notes record uh but this guy was so triggered by our presence that he immediately saw us, came right to us, charged me and my cameraman. Eventually we were attacked at the end of this encounter. And the Dean, after hearing all these stories in the media, all these complaints from folks, brings me into the university and he says, you have two options. You can write a letter saying everything that had happened up until that moment, including you getting attacked was your fault, or you can write a thousand word letter saying you're completely barred from re-registering for classes. And so I was effectively kicked out of college with one semester under my belt, nothing on my resume. I had to go back to Chicago and work for
Starting point is 01:25:18 free on various campaigns, volunteering basis, and didn't find anything for a while. And in the midst of all that, I had decided to sue the university on first amendment basis with the Alliance Defending Freedom for a couple of years. And so while I was kicked out of school, wasn't able to find a job in politics, I was actively suing my university. So I felt like I had everything against me. And the only person who had my back at that time was Donald Trump. Seriously, Donald Trump. Really? only person who had my back at that time was donald trump seriously donald trump really i didn't hear much from anyone i had my the congressman uh at the university of illinois rodney davis uh had put a phone call out to the chancellor but it was just a phone call we didn't hear much from them from him after that um and in the fall of uh i'm sorry in the spring of 2019 is when i got a call
Starting point is 01:26:01 from the white house and they had said we want to invite you to a speech on higher education is how they put it. And so I came to DC, had never been to DC before. I was flown from DCA straight to the White House. And on the way there, they had told me that my case at the university was probably one of the most egregious free speech violations they had seen on college campuses at that time. And so they wanted me to stand behind president Trump as he signs an executive order, protecting free speech on college campuses saying that if these colleges and universities don't abide by free speech policies,
Starting point is 01:26:34 that they can get their federal funding stripped via executive order. And so that was my first entrance to DC ever, literally like landing in DC, go right to the white house and meet president Trump. And so that's how I, at that moment, I knew I was always going to be a warrior for Trump because no one else had really cared about my story. It was a blip in the media for a minute. But the president really identified that as a key story. And I was always grateful for that. That's why I knew that I was going to be a warrior for that guy. And so I had used that
Starting point is 01:27:04 experience a couple months later to try to pitch myself around the DC area, got an internship and then just kept rolling from there. Yeah. And so I had a few opportunities to interview with some folks while I was in DC. And so luckily I get to say that the only three men that I've worked for in politics, Mark Meadows, Matt Gaetz, Donald Trump. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Anyone could do it as long as you are reflecting the values of the american people yeah if you weren't doing this what would you see yourself doing i don't know i've always wanted to do this so it's kind of crazy that i'm that i'm in it right now but you just thought you'd do it after you get your degree
Starting point is 01:27:37 i thought i'd do it you know when i was way older than i am now university of illinois was like no thanks please leave yeah that's wild i i have known people who are having these conversations with their teenagers like should we even go to college because they're so i mean phil can talk about this they're so corrupt and biased uh is there a point right and i think to your point like you have strong values and you just were willing to work hard and that got you where you are. to sign a letter effectively saying that everything you did was wrong and you know you get to go quietly nothing will happen to you after this but how are you going to feel after the fact and I would never be able to live with myself if I had signed that letter and I know I think a lot of
Starting point is 01:28:35 people in the country when they're faced with that aren't going to do it either but to the folks who maybe would out of being scared I would highly encourage you don't I understand that like fear of thinking like you've already invested a ton of money into this you know you have to go to college otherwise you'll fail and you won't you know whatever people are afraid of when it comes to this and like i could understand the pressure of being told just generally being targeted no one wants to be targeted for literally doing nothing standing there and reporting um but you know i i was very fortunate to be in that situation and to be able to stand up and be an example hopefully for some other folks and not that much later at the white house yeah it's
Starting point is 01:29:09 pretty cool i like matt gates he's my favorite member of congress yeah there's there's there's there's almost no one that i actually do like like except for some maybe rand paul or thomas massey matt gates i think is the best and i think his willingness to work with aoc is good despite the fact that i think she's just a i think she's a really bad person but i'll take it you know the bill to uh ban insider trading type stuff is good i just i don't know man i i wonder if we will ever i'm thinking about third parties and if there's any point to it and if people like mad or thomas massey or ran paul represent something else in populism in maga and trump you know what i mean like it's not really the republican party and the republican party doesn't mean anything democratic party doesn't mean
Starting point is 01:29:52 anything aoc is not the same as is you know insert democrat i guess i think the the the parties are definitely evolving you've got you know, a significant socialist wing of the Democrat Party nowadays. I don't think that there's a whole lot of argument about that. And the America First wing of the Republican Party is really starting to become the only legitimate legitimate republican party you know the the establishment republicans their their policy preferences are so so very similar to the democrats it's it's you know you're talking about two or three percents in tax rates and otherwise all of your establishment republicans are repeating the same talking points that the democrats are repeating about people like gates or people like madrid taylor taylor green or people like desantis or or you know any anyone that is in any way looking to
Starting point is 01:30:51 challenge the you know the bureaucracy the entrenched bureaucracy so i i think that the the parties are are going to see a little more pull from the the extremes but you know i don't i don't i don't see how how anything significant changes you know if it's biden elected or whatever it's going to be the same policy so i'm not even sure that that trump is going to be able to get elected again so that's just my take so it is inevitable trump will be president in 2024. What makes you so confident? The American people. We got them on our side. We have God on our side.
Starting point is 01:31:28 In the end, God wins. So no matter how blackmailed I get by the swamp, I always know God wins at the end. So you got to keep pushing. This, this, this, this just keeps doing a really, really good job on policy, but he doesn't have the,
Starting point is 01:31:41 he doesn't have the attitude that Trump has. And I feel like obama proves it too trump proves it character matters more than than policy for trump he has character defects but he has a lot of power behind his words and then he had policies people really liked for obama celebrity that was it i don't think there was any real policies behind there he didn't get universal health care he didn't pull out of the middle east it was just he was a celebrity and everybody wanted to march behind that. He didn't get universal health care. He didn't pull out of the Middle East. It was just he was a celebrity and everybody wanted to march behind him. Yeah, I didn't hear him campaigning on bombing the shit out of everyone.
Starting point is 01:32:14 I didn't hear that point in the Hope campaign. I don't know. That was a big part of his presidency, though. So he certainly kept that non-campaign promise to the military industrial complex. He was good at it. That was his campaign promise behind the scenes. We're going to the military industrial complex. He was good at it. That was his campaign promise behind the scenes. We're going to go to Super Chats. So if you haven't already,
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Starting point is 01:32:38 which will be live at about 10, 10 p.m. Eastern Time tonight. For now, we're going to read your Super Chats. All right, let's see what we got okay raymond g stanley jr says tim i was feeling kind of way with your take of a fellow marine vet who did the right thing though he's a dummy for living in nyc i'm glad to hear you
Starting point is 01:32:56 thought on the subject and came around respect he is from long island right like it's not that crazy he was in new york i still believe people would be wise not to live in these cities, but I do think there's too much to be won with winning this fight, and I think that matters. Let's keep this guy out of prison. Let's set a precedent on doing the right thing. Let's set a precedent
Starting point is 01:33:17 on the right to defend yourselves, and let's prove that the activists' protests are meaningless. Let's have this be more powerful than any protest of a ragtag bunch of lunatic leftists. Alright, Wayback says, the Durham report drop didn't necessarily tell us anything new, but it did prove that the conservatives
Starting point is 01:33:34 were right yet again, and they held this over Trump's head the entire first term, Trump in 2024 for redemption. A lot of people are saying, cover the Durham report. Well, it did just come out. I've only read a little bit, so I don't know if I would do it service. But it really just looks like exactly what everyone already knew to begin with. Just confirmation more that we knew they were lying about Trump being a Russian agent.
Starting point is 01:33:58 Threat to democracy says, Tim, thank you for supporting Daniel Penny. Whenever we have an American citizen captured in hostile territory, we do everything we can to get him out safely, or at least we used to. Also, what is everyone's favorite fighter jet? I don't know. A-10. That's my favorite one. Yes.
Starting point is 01:34:16 I don't know. Classic F-35. But, I mean, if we do want to talk about UAPs, they do go faster. F-35 money pit. Yeah. Yeah. If Ian were here, he'd say, talking plasma.
Starting point is 01:34:27 But he's not here. The one made of graphene. What else? I like the one that was built that they just put wings on a gun. P. Dietl says, was Jordan in the middle of a crime by making threats? Yes, he was. Yes, it is a criminal act. And in the commission of committing a crime, he lost his life.
Starting point is 01:34:45 It's called menace, right and in the commission of committing a crime he lost his life called menace right is the name of the i think it's uh uh terroristic threats actually threatening on a train to harm everyone and lose your life is is more felony territory sounds pretty terror-y to me and he was throwing garbage so there's like a question about assault there miss lady part says the 15 minute chokehold claim is so ludicrous a blood choke would kill a person in like two minutes do you think the guy was just pitbulling a corpse for 13 minutes yeah it's insane no video shows that i have no idea what they're talking about james will says thanks for standing up for those who do the right thing we should all support things we feel we uh we feel deserve it so i plan on subscribing to Tim cast so that I can support you further.
Starting point is 01:35:26 Also, how's Bocas? Bocas seems to be doing really well. I think Ian's weird stem cell therapy is working. Yeah. I mean, is he still getting the stem? He was,
Starting point is 01:35:33 he was supposed to not be alive right now. Yeah. It was like, it was like what? January when you, in December, they said he might have a few weeks left. He could barely walk.
Starting point is 01:35:40 He was stumbling and falling over and crapping just randomly. And we were like, wow, it was bad. He would, he would fall over and then just pass out and they were just like he we we think he's done for we got him a hormone that would stimulate red blood cell growth and then after uh and they said that might help him a little while longer he's still getting iv fluids he's getting stem cell treatments again in a couple days but they ran out of the hormone for stimulating red blood cell growth so they were like that's it it's the only thing
Starting point is 01:36:12 keeping him going and he seems to be okay he's not spry he's not running around and jumping like he used to but he's eating he's walking around he's doing his thing he's causing trouble he seems to be and he's gaining weight so it seems like like, you know, he's turning things around. I think the stem cells are doing it. We've been getting him experimental cat stem cell therapy. That was all Ian's idea. So that's good news. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:36:37 We'll see. Back in, I think, December, they said a couple weeks based on what his blood levels were at. His kidneys were failed. They were like, there's no coming back from this. And then we got some stem cells and now he's walking around complaining. Wow, that's awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:50 Yeah, good news. Ogre Gaming says, the Bud Light boycott is brilliant because it lets everyone who doesn't agree with the algorithmic agenda a way to participate without outing themselves.
Starting point is 01:37:01 They can say, I just prefer insert alternative. Absolutely. I assume there are people too who are afraid to buy it because they don't want to weigh in without outing themselves they can say i just prefer insert alternative absolutely i assume there are people too who are afraid to buy it because they don't want to weigh in on politics right like they don't want to have to like bring bud light to a family gathering they might be scared of someone like me around the corner waiting to shame them you know what i mean like if you're just totally neutral and you're like i don't know i buy the one in the blue can and then you get to a family gathering and it just like breaks out with everyone yelling at each other
Starting point is 01:37:24 like just can't bring that anywhere it's too controversial ogre gaming oh i tried that one uh let's see jonathan trembly says i never get to watch live and a member of tim cast since day one keep it up tim we need your voice a tip learn to hunt and make your own meat products we can teach you at meat gistics yes i was uh i was goofing off with the compound bow for a while a year ago and i was getting pretty good at it but probably like probably bad in terms of how you're actually supposed to fire a compound bow but my aim was really good so i was like i don't know i'm figuring out how to do it on my own probably could have been better but we have this very small like six inch target i could hit from like 100 yards maybe not 100 maybe like 50 yards i don't know i'm probably exaggerating but very far
Starting point is 01:38:09 away and i was actually surprised i was able to hit it i was having fun with that thing i would i would go out in the morning and fire like 100 arrows just at a target nice it was fun once the new place in west virginia gets up and running you should uh pull out the nods and we can go shooting at night. It'll be fun. Get the lasers out. Bring some subscribers out. No. No.
Starting point is 01:38:32 Liabilities and stuff like that. Don't make promises. I don't know how this works. No. And you're talking about at night? Easy, Tiger. Don't put that kind of bad news on me. He's a communications guy. He's not the legal guy.
Starting point is 01:38:42 I'm here to serve the membership. He just thought it would be fun. He's trying to make the members happy. DC Tweetersville says, I'm old enough to remember Jerry Seinfeld and gang went to jail because they broke the Good Samaritan law. A real law, by the way. Yeah, what was that?
Starting point is 01:38:54 That if you don't render aid to somebody in need, it's a crime or something like that? Yeah. And that's actually a law in some places? Mm-hmm. Amazing. Omega Resetsu says, Senator McCarthy was right about U.S. communists.
Starting point is 01:39:09 McCarthy didn't go far enough. That's probably not true. Just communists are really bad. Slane Hope says, Miller's strategy, step one, remove classic ads from stores. Step two, grind them into compost. Step three, gift the competition a bag of worm crap.
Starting point is 01:39:26 Step four, profit. Yes, there are chemicals in those magazine pages. I don't think that's going to be good beer. And it's made by women. It's probably not good beer. Women have been making beer for longer than any of us realize. Listen, if there's one thing I know women can do, it's cook. Barfightin says, Brett, he was purple. There is a point in which you know when to let up some. of us realize listen if there's one thing i know women can do it's cook bar fight and says brett he
Starting point is 01:39:45 was purple there is a point in which you know when to let up some definitely not experienced he was not purple that's a lie i feel like what the left says is just like they lie to each other to justify why they feel that way and then they all just keep saying the lives over lies over and over again i mean you said it yourself that the left doesn't know what the center and right thinks and the right and center know what the left thinks right they're not interested in hearing other opinions yep bushtail says neely was put into recovery position and was still alive when he was transported to the hospital then died in the hospital y'all it clearly wasn't the chokehold that killed him because a chokehold doesn't kill you a half an
Starting point is 01:40:24 hour later something ain't sitting right here yeah he was malnourished do they and they haven't released his uh probably toxicology right i don't know i've only heard about cause of death being declared a homicide i haven't heard anything about toxicology light retro says wasn't george floyd also on drugs when he was pinned down by the officer if daniel penny gets off from this wouldn't it mean that george's death was also an accident and would that mean that blm rides were pointless i mean we know that's the case but uh when does when has that affected politics yeah and you're a racist now just in case you were wondering de bob says va rep jerry connelly and staff attacked with baseball bat today suspect assault police class 6f and charge was dropped by fairfax ca steve discano really what was it suspect suspect oh
Starting point is 01:41:14 i'm sorry it's suspect assaulted police not suspect assaulted police you see language is a funny thing suspect assaulted police and charge was dropped by fairfax that's crazy yeah i read that story that a guy had gone into their office in virginia and like assaulted two people with a baseball bat yeah and a police officer and they dropped that charge unreal that doesn't make sense i mean you have to have district attorneys that will prosecute people that commit crimes or else people are going to continue to commit crimes. This is so incredibly simple. That's surprising, though, because it's Virginia and it's a Democrat office. It's saying he's in custody when I'm looking it up right now.
Starting point is 01:41:55 Is it? Yeah. Man in custody. This is from two hours ago. After baseball ball attack hurts to including including internet, Congressman Virginia office. Well, I hope his staff is doing okay. Yeah. Ghostwriter says, I'm a libertarian that was knee deep in the Hollywood woke cult telling them, no, you're wrong.
Starting point is 01:42:13 My credit was stolen and I was exiled from the entertainment industry. This is why they don't step up. Yeah. Hell economy. I mean, there's a lot of people that, you know, are very, very quiet about their opinions in the entertainment industry. I mean, the number of people that are... Name, names, name, names. The number of people that are actually vocal about it.
Starting point is 01:42:32 I mean, it's like it's me. It's Tommy. Tommy Vext. Pete, obviously. It's cool to see that Dickie Barrett's in Pete's new band. Yeah. Dickie from the Boston's. But there's not a lot of people
Starting point is 01:42:45 that will speak up and say, I think this is wrong. So you end up with an entire industry that is cowed and afraid to put their head up. Were you always pretty outspoken
Starting point is 01:42:59 about your beliefs or did it just happen over time? Yeah, I kind of had always been kind of a loud mouth. And even back in the early to mid aughts when all the remains was kind of getting off the ground um there was i had because i kind of was a teenager in the 90s at the end of the glam rock era when grunge came in, there was this thing about authenticity and nobody that I was in bands with or whatever, none of us wanted to look like we were putting on airs. Being a rock star was not what we wanted to do. We wanted to play music and being authentic was something that
Starting point is 01:43:41 was super, super important to us. And that's something that I've kind of carried with me. I'm not the rock star, rock star. I mean, I think most of the people that know me here. It's all a lie. He's such a diva. I'm just kidding. You know, we have to give Phil a bowl of brown M&Ms every night. Otherwise, he doesn't show up.
Starting point is 01:43:58 That's right. He freaks out. It's crazy. 16.7 ounces. And damn it, if it's 16.6 i am gonna bring the scale he's measuring each m&m we're all like sorry did we just we just really we tried our best he's like it's not good enough but the you know authenticity has always been something that's that's been important to me and and i don't i don't like people that put on airs and act like they're you know i mean i yell
Starting point is 01:44:23 at a stick i'm super lucky that i get to do that for work you know so anything else is is is just icing on the cake some people have to fight bears for a living that's tough no who's a hard job bear fires yeah you know in russia oh yeah i don't know i didn't know joel be open-minded bear fighters although i i do think fight themselves there are some people who do have to fight bears but it's extremely rare that they encounter a bear and have to actually fight it but sometimes you're out in the wilderness maybe you're like a park ranger they're just seeking out fights with bears no like you're defending town from the working on a trail and then a bear
Starting point is 01:44:58 is going to a campsite and stealing food and you've got to get it away from people because people are someone has to punch yogi bear in the face or just someone has to do i didn't realize there is a job for everything or bear mace it so like if there's if we had a bear out here we had a bear problem and so animal control has to come out and prepare to fight a bear granted they don't really fight fight it they come with gear nets i'm thinking revenant style you know they have a sword and shield have you ever seen those old school bear fighting suits? Yeah. The spikes all over them?
Starting point is 01:45:28 What? It's a suit of armor covered in spikes. Yeah. Sounds like modern day Reich, you know? Crazy. I mean, a grizzly bear can rip a car door off by hitting it. A grizzly bear is so terrifying. When you watch grizzlies fight, you see videos of grizzlies fighting during mating season.
Starting point is 01:45:44 That is, imagine being in between those two. No. watch grizzlies fight you see videos of grizzlies fighting during like mating season that is imagine being in between those two no you you you have 10 seconds and then you're dead if that five seconds probably and lights out the crazy thing is like we're kind of lucky in that grizzly bears are massive and crazy but you just play dead and then they'll leave you alone hopefully yeah i mean that typically that's what they say with grizzly like you curl up protect your neck black bears are smaller but they're vicious and fast and you gotta fight if if if it ever comes up do your own research on this because i could be totally wrong but i believe yeah with a black bear you have to you back away slowly and if it comes at you you have to fight and with a grizzly you have to curl up in a ball and cover your neck there were black
Starting point is 01:46:23 bears around where i grew up and occasionally they'd like set up camp and people's you know acreage or whatever and they always said the they're pretty much fine you don't want to be in the in the way of them you want to stay out of the way you're supposed to be big and like yell if they if they if you're if that one's coming at you but really the problem is uh mothers and their cubs if you're standing between cubs and their mom the mom will do anything and it was a problem if you have like small children who are like playing in their backyard and they don't realize that the cubs. If you're standing between cubs and their mom, the mom will do anything. And it was a problem if you have like small children who are like playing in their backyard and they don't realize
Starting point is 01:46:48 that the cubs are in the tree. I mean, I recently learned some of these rules watching Cocaine Bear, but I, I forgot since. So I don't encounter bears a lot.
Starting point is 01:46:59 What? Other than the Chicago bears. I have lived at my house in New Hampshire. I live there. I've lived there since 2013. I bought the place and I have lived at my house in New Hampshire. I lived there since 2013 I bought the place and I have not seen a bear on my property one time.
Starting point is 01:47:11 Yeah. And I got 50 acres up there. Well, maybe they're at the back. They don't want to hang out with you. They're definitely not hanging out around me. They don't have the M&Ms. To be honest, I don't think I've ever seen a bear in person.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Are you going to switch to Pete Ricketts' staff because he's like a cubs owner on the rickets yeah um no i know the rickets i know i actually he's a co-owner of the chicago cubs i used to work at wrigley field really yeah after the 2016 world series i was uh a brief security ambassador for uh for wrigley field so if you ever had some tickets during that year i was probably checking your purse for any alcohol, but the Ricketts were nice guys. They would walk around the stadium and they'd say hi to, you know, well, I mean, if you want to go to the Senate, he's the connection. He's the co-owner.
Starting point is 01:47:56 I think I'm good with the, with the people of Florida. Okay, fine. They don't have the beaches. They don't have the beaches. Like, uh, Nebraska is not known for its beaches. That's so true i i keep seeing a lot of people talking about the uh the durham report there's treason is trending with like 77 000 tweets uh i can't wait to read this thing because it is do you feel like you'll learn a lot i'm not not sure. I mean, it's supposed to be things that have come out.
Starting point is 01:48:27 I don't know that there's going to be anyone on the left that would be convinced of anything. What do you think is more likely? That the Durham report has really interesting information or that you see a bear on your property? Because I feel like it's seeing a bear on your property. I feel like this report is not going to be that interesting. It's been a decade that I've owned that place and I have not seen a bear on my property once that's how much i don't believe in this report really yeah i mean i i'm just so cynical at this point even when i i was laughing with chris burman or in the office and i got the fox news alert that was like new information
Starting point is 01:48:58 released in regards to investigation into trump and it's like you're not even telling me which investigation you're not telling me what information like you know that no one is that interested and that the information is not that hot you know what I'm saying like if it was that big of a revelation you would have led with it if you have to bury it to get me to open your news alert then it's not that good in my opinion well I I yeah I haven't read all 300 or so pages of the report yet. But from from what I'm hearing on Capitol Hill, it's generally a snoozer. Really? You know, Shapiro believes that it's damning to the FBI, the Clinton campaign, the Obama administration and everyone involved in the Russia Trump smear. I mean, but like absolutely shocking.
Starting point is 01:49:39 He says like that they are corrupt. Didn't we already think that? Well, watch watch the plot against the president by amanda millius and that's pretty yeah i don't think that it tells you anything new i think it's confirmation of rumors more than anything else because as of right now we haven't had we haven't had a lot of actual confirmation of things there's been rumors and there's been accusations but there's not there hasn't been anything to solidify now again i don't imagine that this is going to do anything because i think the entire bureaucracy is corrupt i think that the that the idea that this is going to come out and that there will be actual changes
Starting point is 01:50:13 i mean the fbi has already said well we knew about this and this is old news that's their official release um so i don't imagine there's gonna be any kind of changes or anything but it at the very least it's nice to be able to be like look it is clear that the fbi is untrustworthy and here's the evidence yeah at the very least it becomes you know some kind of ammunition that can you can use in in future yeah and it's good to prove these things even if we all believe it we should have the hard evidence behind it that's true i was just reading about what to do with bears an interesting thing is it says not to use a firearm with black bears because injured, they become more desperate and aggressive and then will just try to kill you. But it said, the wildlife guy says fight back with anything you have if you're being aggressively charged because black bears do bluff charges and aggressive charges and a bluff charge is trying to scare you.
Starting point is 01:51:03 You got to stand your ground, raise your hands above your head, and then talk calmly, which seems counterintuitive. But if it's aggressively charging you, like clacking its teeth or yawning, then you got to fight. If it's yawning? It looks like a yawn. It's opening its mouth. Oh, okay. I thought you meant it's like, actually, it's aggressive move is to yawn. Yeah, to open its mouth as wide as possible and then charge at you. It's aggressively tuck it out.
Starting point is 01:51:24 Yeah. And then it said to you to always have bear spray because that'll make it run away, but shooting it will make it enraged and desperate. So I don't know. Don't take my advice. I guess if you have like a 50 BMG, you're probably okay with using that against a bear charging you. But don't take advice from me on this stuff. Just talk to somebody who knows better. I feel like you've got good advice you googled it that's great
Starting point is 01:51:48 advice i just feel like a 50 bmg would would cavitate the brain and body parts of it and rip it to shreds there are firearms that will take care of a bear um yeah but there was one story about a grizzly in alaska that when they finally found it it was loaded bullets all over its body really because it was killing people and they were shooting it the bullets weren't doing anything how grizzly bears because they're because bullets thick bullets are small i don't know i i mean i'm hearing this advice i just don't know if i'm gonna you know put my hands up and act calmly then the black bear will probably what's your game i'm gonna have to fight if you i mean if i'm hearing fight i guess i'm just gonna have to do everything if you try and fight it when it's bluffing you you die but it becomes super human or super bear when you start shooting it if you
Starting point is 01:52:32 so here's what happens i think we're screwed the bear doesn't want to fight you right the bear doesn't want to fight it wants you to get away from it because it's it's scared of you and if it feels like it has to fight it'll fight you so if you shoot it now it feels like it's going to die and it's like oh no it's going to kill me i better fight back if it's trying to scare you off you slowly back away speaking calmly and making yourself look big and then it runs away if it's aggressive because you're standing in between its kids you do that's a lot of trouble psychologically to come over you do well i mean if that's the case just don't go into the bear country you know what i mean like if if if if you're the kind of person where it's like here's what you have to do in
Starting point is 01:53:09 encountering a bear and like i can't do that then stay out of bear country it's true all right that is good advice stay away from bears bears are dangerous all right let's grab some more super jets gordius says i wonder if trump can sue the mainstream media into oblivion now that the derm report has completely cleared him of any wrongdoing and then smashed obama biden and clinton i mean now that it's basically confirmed by an official government report yeah maybe maybe we'll actually see something but it just means that if trump does end up getting re-elected he can then drop the hammer on all this stuff yeah i was gonna say what court of law is he gonna get a fair trial and if he's like look at this report that the government produced confirming everything i went through like there's there's no court of law that's
Starting point is 01:53:52 really gonna help him yeah and they embroidered so many lies onto these report where eventually they're just gonna say we're just reporting on an official fbi investigation you know we're just doing our jobs kevin brady says that kid going to the er must have had his brandon struck moment wild yeah maybe that's why i think you know with that with that dude being wrong people got to be nicer to him because it's like dude if you were wrong about this what else are you wrong about come hang out with people who are trying to be right. You know? It would be, it's really important, like I said earlier, to give people a way out. Like, if they've been, you know, committed to that kind of woke ideology and stuff, the best way to deal with it is to poke fun at it, allow them to laugh at it, and laugh at themselves.
Starting point is 01:54:46 Don't make fun of them. Make fun of the ideas. Don't beat them up because hopefully what you can do is convince these people that they're wrong and that they should abandon these terrible, terrible racist ideas. And you're not going to do that by being like oh you're this bad person blah blah how many people actually started believing the woke stuff because some woke person decided to call them all the names in the book oh people none so you know if you have friends that are that believe this kind of stuff be kind to them and and give them a way out where they can kind of save face and
Starting point is 01:55:22 you know laugh a little bit and not feel terrible about themselves. Francisco Linares says, would you bring Gavin McInnes on to Timcast to discuss the vice bankruptcy, Proud Boys, culture war, etc.? No, I'll bring him on the culture war podcast to discuss all of those things, which is Fridays at 1 p.m. YouTube.com slash Timcast, is that when we bring certain individuals on this show, the show turns into a debate instead of topical news and commentary, which it is. So we need a show that's just about the guest and we talk. So I would love to have Gavin McInnes on the Culture War podcast where we would literally talk about vice and all that stuff. And I think that'd be fantastic. We'll reach out to him. It'll be cool.
Starting point is 01:56:11 The Culture War podcast is slowly going to start moving into not necessarily a debate format, but kind of a discussion format. We want to bring on left-wing and right-wing people in some fashion maybe libertarians liberals conservatives to have more in-depth conversations on these issues philip vecchio says michael malice can replace vice with malice magazine if he wants to launch a magazine i like the idea of sending anna claire to north carolina north carolina i'm gonna investigate what's there surfing that's right okay i'm in boris says 200 million dollar loan device never paid back sounds like money laundering operation
Starting point is 01:56:55 did they get faux book deals too no it sounds like they said look we need this money and then we'll get be profitable and look at all this investment that we have once we are profitable we're a multi-billion dollar company and then they couldn't pay back those loans because they put someone really bad at their job in charge of it that's the crazy thing shane smith steps down and puts nancy dubik in charge as ceo and then she just burns the whole company to the ground how can you burn something that valuable so quickly yeah wow like who would hire that woman ever again that's amazing it's a 5.7 billion dollar company think you can handle it i got it six years later gone zero dollars literally lit it all on fire maybe she'll just go into academia and start teaching business courses
Starting point is 01:57:37 thank god no i'm joking i know jonathan harris says we would love hannah clare in north carolina we'll get her some Carolina Hurricanes gear since they used to be the Hartford Whalers. That is true. I'll investigate whatever happened to the Whalers and what they're doing now. Yeah, I'm happy to come investigate North Carolina. Just let me know what there is to investigate
Starting point is 01:57:56 and I'll be on my way. Take it easy says, send Ian down to the Amazon to take ayahuasca. That'd be a great video. I know a friend that could hook him up. My buddy JT. I don't think we can send employees to South America to do drugs. But what if they just go
Starting point is 01:58:12 to South America and they accidentally do drugs? But what if it was an investigative report? Nope. I don't think you can do that legally and I don't think it can be done based on... It would be under liability liability, maybe OSHA, all those standards. How is Vice able to do it?
Starting point is 01:58:31 Because they're contractors. Yeah, I was going to say, what if Ian goes on vacation? He films his own documentary about his experience and then sells it to you. Nope. Contractors. Contractors can do whatever they want and then sell you the product. And that's how Vice handled all of their all of their talent so yeah like osha if if yeah you can't do it maybe we can get ian to wrestle a bear uh yeah nope definitely can't do that
Starting point is 01:58:57 i imagine you're so corporate these days not me blame the government blame blame blame government regulations so cool man you see this fun skateboardy guy. Now you won't let us wrestle bears and do ayahuasca. We'll send Lauren Southern to go do it. She's a contractor. She'll wrestle bears? And Ben Stewart. I don't know if Lauren will wrestle a bear, but she'll go investigate
Starting point is 01:59:17 bear boxing. Can I be a contractor? I'll try the bear situation. The idea is basically, if you go and do the dock, we can buy it off you we can't send you to go do the thing i can't promise it's gonna be good what if like ian took time off and made a documentary in his own time you can't buy that one yeah no now especially now that we've talked about it look i'm looking for loopholes no but there's but there's no there's no loophole because judges aren't robots like the the and especially with a lot of these regulatory
Starting point is 01:59:42 agencies being left they will just interpret the law in any way possible to be like, that was a violation. So there's just, there's no loophole. It's just, you can go do it and then sell it to us. We can't tell anyone to go do anything. But the benefit there, I suppose, is like, I remember when Jackass would be like, do not perform these stunts and then send us videos. And it's kind of like, that's true. And you can still get sued but if someone does something of their own volition and then tries to get you to buy it off them it's like
Starting point is 02:00:08 you can't blame me for that scott cooper says what do y'all think of an amendment that gives congressmen elected individuals a lifetime salary but it bars them from receiving any kind of income for the rest of their lives agreed i like it you get 174 000 for life and can never receive any other money from from any other corporation or whatever there would have to be uh life or the problem with any other income is that it would ban like casino gaming which you can't do but um risk like it would have to it would have to it would have to be uh very precise but the idea being after you leave public office or uh your public job after a certain amount of years you get your salary for the rest of your life but you can't take money from anyone else so no lobbying yeah
Starting point is 02:00:58 i feel like i'd want to like it on principle but i feel like in application that would not go well plus there's a lot of ideas there are better things than congress so i feel like people can still do better bigger things i don't i don't know i i like the idea of restricting the uh the salary while they're in office i definitely do agree with that but i don't know about the rest of their life all right everybody if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends and become a member over at TimCast.com by clicking that join us button to watch the members only uncensored show. And if you become a member at for at least six months or you sign up at the twenty five dollars per month level, then you can submit questions and actually call into the show. We do about four or five calls every night.
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