Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #780 Durham Report CONFIRMS Soft Coup Against Trump, Dem Media PANICS w/Natalie Winters

Episode Date: May 17, 2023

Tim, Seamus, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Natalie Winters to discuss the Durham Report confirming Democrats tried a 'soft coup' against Donald Trump, Elon Musk claiming Hunter Biden laptop suppression ...was election interference, CNN admitting Durham report is devastating to the FBI, the Patriot Front group being mocked after marching in DC, Bud Light's new camo can design, & students in NY claiming they support asylum seekers, but not in their school. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Last night, the Durham report was released, and it basically confirms what most of us knew, that there was a soft coup staged against the Trump administration, first to stop him from winning, then to stop him from actually being president. This wasn't three days of chaos. It was three years intended to disrupt the presidential administration in this country. It was so damning, this report, that even CNN came out and Jake Tapper's like, it essentially, it almost exonerates Trump. Like, almost.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Like, it literally does. The report says that there was no evidence, no corroboration, and the FBI was pursuing this anyway. This is, in my opinion, criminal. Now, of course, the argument from the FBI is there's no evidence of anything criminal, but I think that's letting them off the hook lightly because it's all about criminal
Starting point is 00:00:49 interpretation. So I definitely want to get into greater detail as we go into the Durham report's findings. But I do want to point out even CNN saying like, oh, this looks bad. And that's bad because CNN doesn't want to do it. Here's a funny thing, though. Newsmax is now beating CNN in the ratings. So, yeah, sorry, CNN, you're out. We got more news. However, Bud Light is going to be changing their cans. They're freaking out. Their sales are getting worse, down 27.7 percent. So a lot of good
Starting point is 00:01:16 news, a lot of good news, a lot of crazy news. And I want to I want to talk about Patriot Front because Joe Rogan on his show was basically like, those guys are feds, no question. And my favorite point someone made was that, you know, Patriot Front is feds because not a single person in the group is obese. And they're like, everybody knows that when you see a bunch of, like, right-wing Patriot dudes with guns and armor, they're overweight. And so, right, yeah, Seamus, he can't help himself. That's actually really funny.
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Starting point is 00:03:52 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Natalie Winters. Hi, thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here with you guys. Thanks for being here. Who are you? What do you do? So I am the co-host and executive editor of Steve Bannon's War Room. Used to be and still sort of am an investigative reporter, primarily focusing on Chinese Communist Party infiltration, which, of course, dovetails with the origins of COVID.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Did a lot of reporting on Hunter Biden's hard drive. I like to kind of footnote a lot of the statements that people make about really the amazing extent to which the Chinese Communist Party curries influence and favor in the United States. Right on. Well, thanks for joining us. It should be fun. We got Seamus. Got Seamus over here. My name is Seamus Coghlan.
Starting point is 00:04:33 He was laughing throughout the whole intro. I'm sorry, dude. That's hysterical. That's such a good point. That's such a good point. But I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes where we upload cartoons. We're going to have one on Thursday
Starting point is 00:04:43 that I think you all are going to enjoy a whole lot. And if you want, you can become a member at freedomtunes.com to support my work. Pretty based. Cool. And I'm Hannah Claire Brimelow. I'm a writer for timcast.com. And I am back today. Kellen has stopped bullying me, so I'm
Starting point is 00:04:59 on the air. I also have some news. I see that someone superchatted saying they want official Tim Pool beanies. We actually do now have a large the air i also have some news i see that someone super chatted saying they want official tim pool beanies we actually do now have a large supply of official tim cast beanies however we decided we're not going to be selling them we're only going to be giving them out to select members on a certain case-by-case basis we're going right now i think we'll be sending all of our elite members these, these unique Tim Castabene's that we have. It says Tim cast on it. It's got a picture of a little gorilla wearing
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Starting point is 00:06:06 We have this from human events dot com. Durham report reveals FBI Democrats staged soft coup of Trump administration by Libby Emmons. And I would like to stress, I believe this is NewsGuard certified human events. That means it is true facts information. The Durham report begun in May 2019 was intended to investigate allegations that President Trump had engaged in collusion with Russia to alter the 2016 presidential election. What it found instead was an effort to undermine Trump's presidency, the confidence of the American people in his administration, and to fuel media and Democrat resentment and hatred for the man they would sooner have shot on Fifth Avenue than seen take the White House. That's some pretty good writing, Libby. They say, quote, Our investigators determined that the Crossfire Hurricane investigators
Starting point is 00:06:51 did not and could not corroborate any of the substantive allegations contained in the Steele reporting, not not was Steele able to nor was Steele able to produce corroboration for any of the reported allegations, even after being offered one million million or more by the FBI for such corroboration. The report reads later, it goes further to say that the information was known to be rumor and speculation. Democrats planted fake evidence and then use it against Trump in order to justify their assumptions about his guilt. The FBI used that for probable cause to further an investigation without any basis at all. Within days of their receipt, the report reads, the unvetted and unverified Steele reports were used to support probable cause in the FBI's FISA applications targeting Page,
Starting point is 00:07:35 a U.S. citizen who, for a period of time, had been an advisor to Trump. As discussed later in the report, this was done at a time when the FBI knew that the same information Steele had provided to the FBI had also been fed to the media and others in Washington, D.C. I'd like to give you a simplified version so you can understand what's going on. The FBI says no criminal culpability for a lot of these people. I think they're saying like, you know, Hillary Clinton, nothing was overtly criminal. Here's how I see it. Imagine one day a guy is walking past a bank carrying a burlap sack and he walks up to the bank steps, drops the bag and walks away. Did he commit a crime? Of course not. He just threw a burlap sack on the stairs of a bank. Another guy walking into the bank to
Starting point is 00:08:18 cash a paycheck, sees the burlap sack and says, oh, somebody must have accidentally left it outside. Picks it up, carries it inside, throws it on the ground in front of the counter, cashes a check and leaves. Another guy crumples up a note walking past the bank and throws it through an open window. You get where I'm going with this. One by one, each of these individuals did a small thing. No single person walked into that bank, demanded money, filled a bag full of cash and fled. But each of these individuals did one thing that if you were to analyze in and of itself was not criminal, but altogether, after all this goes down, the bank teller did fill the burlap sack with money. And then somebody did carry it outside. Then someone else put it in the back of a truck. Then someone else drove that truck away. And when
Starting point is 00:09:02 the FBI comes and interviews all of these individuals, they'll say, look, I don't know any of these guys. This was just in the public. And I stumbled upon it. And the money was taken from the bank and driven to a secret hideout. What happened with the Trump-Russia collusion was that Democrats who wanted Trump destroyed, members of the media who wanted Trump destroyed all claimed they used publicly available information to destroy Donald Trump's presidency from the FBI claiming it was in the media. So we had to look into it. But the story in the media came from speculation from people in the FBI. It was one big circular scheme. And I think the only reason Durham saying it's not criminal is because he's going easy on these people. Criminal indictments are interpretable.
Starting point is 00:09:45 And I think anybody looking at what these people did could say if Adam Schiff goes on TV and he did and says he has more than some more than circumstantial evidence proving this, then there should be some kind of criminal referral. And we should not sit back and allow all of these people to destroy a presidency, because I'll tell you where we're at right now. If nothing comes of this, if the extent of the Durham report is, yes, they all did something bad, but it wasn't criminal, then there's no country anymore. Because what's to stop any political party from doing the exact same thing
Starting point is 00:10:16 to make sure no other person can have a presidential administration again? Yeah, exactly. So if nobody here broke the law, that is an indictment of our laws as they currently stand. So just to go over some of the points that were made in the Durham report. Significant reliance on investigating leads that were funded by Trump's opposition occurred. They did not and could not corroborate any of the substantive allegations made by the Steele report. The investigation was
Starting point is 00:10:45 not properly opened information was not properly vetted it was carried out in an improper manner fbi officials according to the durham report had a predisposition to have a bias against president trump they didn't do their basic due diligence and the fbi warned the clinton campaign of potential russian interference during the 2016 election but did not warn the Trump campaign. So people can say, well, in the Durham report, there isn't any statement explicitly saying that there was an attempt at a deep state coup. He's just saying that basically everyone who handled this investigation was behaving improperly because of their bias against a sitting president. Well, that's just a distinction without a difference. I don't care if they all met in a cigar room and
Starting point is 00:11:24 rubbed their hands together and laughed about the fact that they were trying to subvert the U.S.'s democracy and the is that the Durham report with this Russia hoax, that really was just the opening salvo of the deep state's attempt to really nullify the Trump presidency. So I think it's interesting if you sort of analyze the Trump term through this paradigm, what I mean by that, the first impeachment attempt, the second impeachment attempt, the fact that the people who were running, you know, PPO, the Presidential Personnel Office, the equivalent of HR in the White House, were a bunch of Bush Romney types, were very establishment Republicans. So while it's important to focus on the Russia hoax angle of it, I think it also shows you the extent to which they were willing to go to, to thwart the Trump presidency before he even became president, right, while he was still a candidate. So you can only imagine how much they ratcheted up those efforts to go after Trump once he actually assumed office and assumed all the leverage, the powers that comes with being president.
Starting point is 00:12:35 So I think it's just it's such an interesting kind of paradigm to view all of the ways that the deep state really did go after trump i mean i think continues to right yeah exactly facing so many different types of lawsuits and investigations it's hard to count them all what's a seditious conspiracy shamus do you know well i would say just based on the words it's people conspiring to oppose legitimately elected authorities so if like i don't know a group of people had a plan to say like disrupt a presidential administration something like that i mean over the period of three years before his election is that seditious i'm just gonna i'm not gonna mince words here they convicted proud boys of
Starting point is 00:13:18 seditious conspiracy why because they were at a protest riot on january 6th that's it like a one day thing the left has done the same thing except instead of laundering their talking points through groups right like the right does say the proud boys or patriot run all these different federally incited groups they just do and i think sort of more highbrow more high class through ngos this was three years of the fbi and democrats and the media all working together to stop a presidential administration that is the biggest conspiracy this country has ever seen and the only thing the only is only one thing that they're claiming make that makes it not a conspiracy is it was all an accident. That's right. Every lie from Schiff, every lie from the media, every action taken by the FBI, all coming together to create a massive Russia collusion
Starting point is 00:14:16 investigation with Pulitzer Prizes. Whoops. All of the reporters, all of the Democrats and all of the feds slipped on a banana peel at the exact same time, did a backflip, landed perfectly and won awards for it. And it was just one big accident. And are the awards going to be withdrawn? I mean, this is what bothers me the most. I know it's important to confirm the revelations that the Durham report produces, but nothing's
Starting point is 00:14:38 going to happen, right? The Proud Boys are going to have to go back to court to argue that the text messages where they're saying where should we meet up on January 6th, prove that they didn't have a plan for that day. Meanwhile, no one involved in this is going to face conspiracy charges. And I hate to turn this into grimcast, but it really is incredibly frustrating and disheartening. There is no punishment for what happened.
Starting point is 00:15:00 There can be. When Trump gets reelected, I expect him to to have an agey start issuing these indictments that bring convening grand juries and grand juries. They say can can can indict a ham sandwich. Bring it on. Present the evidence and say, did these people conspire? You know what? I'll tell you this tit for tat. Let's play tit for tat. If you're going to accuse Donald Trump of working for the Soviet Union, then we're going to accuse you of conspiracy because y'all did say these things. Let's just go ahead and assume you did it on purpose. Yeah. Well, remember, Tim, what they're going to try to argue is that you're an insane conspiracy theorist for thinking that basically every relevant person within the deep state being tilted against Trump and trying to
Starting point is 00:15:43 unseat him on bad evidence isn't an actual coup or is an actual coup. I'm sorry. That's a bridge too far. But them believing that the president of the United States literally colluded with Russia to rig the election and he was an asset of Putin the entire time is just reasonable thinking. And without any evidence, they could say that on national television to the American people. Let's slow down there a second, Seamus. do you think the democrats did what we know they did you know it's a tough one man i i gotta be honest yes or no yes or no i'm gonna speak with my lawyer yeah of course conspiracy theory ah i got you and by the way i just have to say i said you know a lot of my early career had to do with
Starting point is 00:16:19 focusing on chinese communist party infiltration if donald trump's cardinal sin was you know collaborating with the Russian government, which we know never happened. I mean, the people who are accusing him of doing that, that is like textbook projection in the sense that all of these, I actually used to do this. This can tell you what kind of social life I have.
Starting point is 00:16:36 But if you used to look at the headlines that they would write on CNN, the New York Times, Washington Post, about Trump and linking him to Russia, you could basically cross out Trump and replace it often with Democrats, sometimes establishment Republicans, and then cross out Russia and put in China because the connections exist. So this whole idea that there's this, you know, collaborating and collusion with foreign governments, I'm like, Democrats, you guys wrote that playbook when you started taking cash from Chinese Communist Party influence
Starting point is 00:17:01 groups. Exactly. And so we see how much the goalpost has moved over the years, right? Back in 2016, Donald Trump colluded with the Russians. We know he colluded with the Russians. The entire thing is a farce. The president is owned by the Kremlin. And then, okay, well, maybe he colluded with them.
Starting point is 00:17:17 And then, okay, so, well, there's no evidence that he colluded with them, but the investigation was done in good faith. And now it's, okay, well, the investigation wasn't done in good faith and there were a lot of biases in it and the fbi clearly played favorites by warning the clinton campaign not the trump campaign and they launched the investigation on bad information but but but it wasn't a coup it was not an intentional coup and he's like okay
Starting point is 00:17:35 i'm sure you know every single thing you have said along the way since this investigation first began since this russiagate farce was incepted has been completely wrong. And now you expect us to believe you when you say this wasn't a coup? I'm sorry. We've run out of good faith. The lawyer involved in the first impeachment tweeted out when Trump right before his inauguration, we are going to impeach you. Yep. Like they expressed their intent before there was any criminal accusations or any any potential
Starting point is 00:18:03 wrongdoing or anything they could accuse him of. They said, we will do it no matter what and meanwhile in the same exact time frame the fbi the treasury department was getting suspicious activity report after suspicious activity report based off the business dealings of hunter biden and all you know dozen biden family members and they were actively suppressing that these are obviously politically exposed personnel's peps so they knew what hunter Hunter Biden was doing from the financial transactions. And it just shows you, it's not even a double
Starting point is 00:18:29 standard of justice because that implies that we're in the same realm of standards. It's otherworldly. It's just ridiculous. And I think that there's a lot to what you're saying, Hannah Clare, about the fact that our institutions probably will not punish themselves for their wrongdoings. I also to what you're saying, Hannah Clare, about the fact that our institutions probably will not punish themselves for their wrongdoings.
Starting point is 00:18:46 I also hear what you're saying, Tim, about the fact that Trump being reelected could mean that he actually would go after these people and they would be duly punished for their crimes against this nation. But I will say one thing. So I believe that the real black pill is that is not that, you know, people who have information that could lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton die. It's that no amount of information will ever lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton. Right. And that applies overall to this deep state. Maybe Trump does get in. Maybe he is able to appoint investigators. It's certainly going to be an uphill battle, man. We should have titled today's episode, Tim Kast reveals information that will lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Just like, see what happens, you know. Maybe it will. Maybe it will. Maybe when Trump gets back in office, he will finally follow through with locking up Hillary Clinton. Because, I mean, this was it. It was the Democrats. It was the Clintons.
Starting point is 00:19:46 It was Obama. They were trying to intentionally smear Donald Trump to win an election. And they framed him as a traitor to this country. Yeah. And the headlines are going to be, Donald Trump uses justice system for his own vindictive means to an end. You know what I mean? I mean, even if we were to get some of these officials behind
Starting point is 00:20:05 bars to have to uh publicly face what they have done to the american people not just donald trump but to the people who supported him right there is no way that the media lets this go right even now i mean i think part of this time is exactly what you're saying the timeline you laid out of being like there definitely was a problem all the way to like, well, there wasn't anything. And also we are biased and we're sort of admitting it. By now, they're gonna be like, well, but he just got found guilty in this case. And he's being investigated over here.
Starting point is 00:20:36 And let's talk to Alvin Bragg. And it almost doesn't matter because they were just waiting to come up with something else to try and hold against Trump. And it is honestly astounding. I don't know that we'll ever see anything like it in our lifetime of someone they hate more than Donald Trump. I mean, it's truly unbelievable the lengths that mainstream media and the deep state will go to fight against him. Well, I will say, I think there is someone or more accurately a group they hate more than Donald Trump, and that's the American people. And they see Donald Trump as
Starting point is 00:21:04 representative for the actual interests of the American people. And that bothers them because they're used to seeing politicians who are only interested in representing the elite. And so while it may be the case that none of these people face any actual punishment at any of these media establishments or anywhere in the deep state, with respect to public opinion and people waking up to their nonsense, the one thing I can say is the walls are closing in. I'm just imagining high- high profile Democrat fundraisers holding auditions to recruit actors to play Democrats. And they're doing the interview and they're like,
Starting point is 00:21:33 all right, give me populist. And they got like AOC and she's saying like, I think we should tax the rich. Like, this is really great. You're really good. Now, if you take this job, we just have to warn you, you will have to shake hands and touch these people and then she shudders oh i think i can do it all right you got the job we'll uh we'll we'll get you elected and then you can be a democrat and that's that's how i view
Starting point is 00:21:55 that's how i view all the democrats and the republicans to be completely honest except for like five people they're just they just despise and are disgusted by america yeah no well that's exactly what it is right it's it's funny so there's this idea of loving the the sinner and hating the sin you know the democrats they they like love poverty and hate the poor they really do they have this entire idea in their heads that they're these champions for the working class and they hate everything that the working class stands for and they'll even claim that it's funny it applies other things like they really they like love immigration and they hate the immigrant when you talk to people who come here from mexico about their values and like how they feel about gay
Starting point is 00:22:33 marriage and abortion the left is disgusted by it they hate everything they stand for i mean all of the counties along the border in texas where there are levels of illegal immigration are red right they are populated by people whose families have migrated from mexico they have conservative values but you you see that theory play out too i think even with the russia hoax because i also never sort of bought what they were pushing right it's like oh because a random facebook account that was somewhat linked to russia shared an article that was attacking hillary cl Clinton on false terms just because some random Americans read it that now influenced their vote they're now voting for Donald Trump and I think
Starting point is 00:23:09 you know if you unpack that whole narrative that they were pushing it really shows you how dumb they think the American people are right and how really influenceable and just dumb it's like oh you because you read an article now, you your entire conviction, the reason why you support Trump, it can't be because you actually support his policies on trade and you want to take this country back and you despise Hillary Clinton to your core. It's because you read an article about Hillary Clinton actually being related to who knows how dare you. Well, yeah, it's actually absolutely ludicrous conspiracy theorizing. What they argued was that non-government Russian actors spending $46,000 worth of money on Facebook ads that weren't even all targeted towards one specific party was an act of war. We had actual elected leaders saying that that was an act of war from russia interfering in our election this is how delusional these people are the best part too is if you look i remember there was a press release that twitter had put out probably like two years ago they were
Starting point is 00:24:15 talking about what they were doing to mitigate foreign influence and they had ranked all the different numbers of bots that they had from different countries and overwhelmingly i think it was by like a 10 increase or rather uh like chasm between bots from china and russia the chinese communist party influence on twitter dwarfed that of russia so it's so funny if you want to play with this foreign influence narrative it's like sure i'll take you at your word on that even though i don't believe you the american people are smart enough to be immune to that uh even if you want to take them at their word the chinese communist party their influence still prevails over russia so it's just bizarre yeah taking over right so uh let me jump to this story we have this tweet from benny johnson elon musk calls
Starting point is 00:24:59 the suppression of the hunter biden laptop story election interference quote some of these conspiracy theories have turned out to be true. I don't play this clip for you, but I want to stress this one point. As we're talking about the Durham report and the interference in our election and Trump's presidency from 2016 till 2020, we also get to talk about the second election interference from intelligence agencies when they sought to suppress and did suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story. Here's Elon Musk giving an interview on the matter. I mean, you know, you do some tweets that seem to be or at least give support to some
Starting point is 00:25:32 who would call others conspiracy theories. Well, yes, but I mean, honestly, you know, some of these conspiracy theories have turned turned out to be true which ones well like the hunter biden laptop that's true yeah yeah so yeah uh you know that that that was a pretty big deal there was twitter and and and others engaged in active suppression of information that was relevant to the public um that's that's a that's a terrible thing that happened. That's like interference. And not and also what wasn't mentioned by Elon was that the intelligence agency signed off on this letter, which was then weaponized by people in the media who willfully lied to manipulate. This is once again a very similar story of election interference from intelligence agencies, Democrats and the media. there is no country unless these people
Starting point is 00:26:25 are criminally charged arrested and removed from polite society because they are criminals who engage in criminal activity but have you considered that it's just an accident and they're sorry oh they're sorry well now i feel bad shameless i mean it was let them go it was a mistake you know that's why pence they didn't do it twice i feel like they're not sorry. They're just like, we did some stuff wrong and we changed our own rules. So we won't do anything wrong again. But we don't know that they've changed the rules to, now they've changed the rules to permit them
Starting point is 00:26:53 to act the way they did. You know, they've just legalized their actions probably. And I love this rationalization that you get from the left where they'll say, okay, like we, yes, we were vehemently wrong about this every step of the way. And we did try to ruin people's lives and we did misinform the American people. But like didn't mean to you know pandemic amnesty we saw
Starting point is 00:27:08 yeah exactly we saw it during the pandemic we saw it during russiagate we see this with the left all of the time it's like okay well if you're wrong about everything all the time i kind of don't care if you were lying or not i know that i can't trust you ever they're just sorry you figured it out they're not sorry they did it exactly and. And this is how it works. You never admit you're wrong. You move on to the next scam. That's how scammers work, right? A scammer doesn't go like, okay, so like, I wasn't really a Nigerian prince, but I am trying to call you about your car's extended warranty.
Starting point is 00:27:35 So should we- They just move from the Nigerian prince thing to your car's extended warranty without ever talking to you about the first thing or admitting that they were wrong. Yeah. It's like, you're not a Nigerian prince. Click. The phone rings again. I'd like to talk to you about your car's extended warranty really it's like oh well i feel like we should just start our stopwatches and see what big
Starting point is 00:27:52 revelation is going to come out to distract us from this because that's i feel like how you can tell time in america well more importantly i wonder what the next big election interference is going to be in 2024 well what, what lie will they push next? Well, and this is, this is what's so wild, right? So over 10% of Biden voters, according to surveys, not only did not know that the Hunter Biden laptop story was a thing because of how suppressed it was. They said if they had known about it, they would not have voted for Joe Biden. Okay. The idea that 10% of Biden voters survey surveyed if that really does apply to the rest of the population would not have swayed the election but what's your what's your source
Starting point is 00:28:28 washington examiner there was a poll that they published right after the election make sure we have the number correct yeah yeah i and i actually think it might have been more than 10 so i can pull this up i remember rasmussen had one that was like six or seven percent okay either way it's either way it's a substantial amount It's enough people to theoretically swing the election depending on where they're centered or where they're based. Now, that is evil. That is clear corporate interference in American elections. And I would say that that's actually more heinous than non-government actors in Russia spending $46,000 on Facebook ads, not all of which were from one single partisan perspective. On top of that, we had actual elected leaders
Starting point is 00:29:11 referring to that as an act of war. An act of war. So what do we call it when American corporations do the exact same thing on a much larger scale, which there's actually good polling data to indicate did sway the election. Well, and they're doing it on a much larger, a hundred, multi-hundred million dollar, almost billion dollar scale when it comes to groups like the Center for Tech and Civic Life,
Starting point is 00:29:34 getting money from the Chan Zuckerberg initiative. When you talk about the lie that they're going to peddle, I think universal mail-in voting. I'm sure there'll be some sort of public health emergency that necessitates rolling that up, but it's interesting. I put a story up today. So obviously, the Center for Tech and Civic Life, the Zuckerberg-funded election group, they had to sort of rebrand since they came under a bunch of scrutiny during the 2020 election. But one of their new groups, it's called the Alliance for Election Excellence. It's a very good name.
Starting point is 00:30:00 But they're now giving, they have an 80 million dollar war chest and they're now giving like half a million dollar grants to local election offices across the country and they're buying them catch this uh office space to store mail-in ballots and to also store election tabulation machines so they're up to their old tricks so i know i'm sure very altruistic anything mark zuckerberg does is marked by by altruism know I'm sure very altruistic. Anything Mark Zuckerberg does is marked by altruism. And if it's not altruistic, it was an accident. Of course. And he's really sorry.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Sorry you found out. Sorry. They all just simultaneously slipped on these banana peels. Remember he said he wasn't going to give any money to the 2024 election. So I was like, yeah, me and my wife, like, peace out. We're done. But no, they just use another shady non-profit dark money he's giving it to someone to give to the you remember when he he's like
Starting point is 00:30:49 health alliance and covid zuckerberg reportedly gave all his money away or something like that what but it turned out he put it in an llc to avoid the death tax and inheritance tax something like that happened i could be wrong but they were like wow zuckerberg's giving away all his money and they were like yeah to a company so that when he dies it doesn't get taxed at 50 yeah it was like the patagonia thing their founder was like we're gonna give all our money away and it's like oh actually they get a huge tax credit for doing this they're not just they're not here to save the planet they're here to help themselves and the sad thing is if he said it he was doing it to avoid taxes it would be way cooler right like i might actually appreciate that if
Starting point is 00:31:25 he's gonna lie about giving it to the poor okay well you're a slimy guy you're lying about giving money to the poor if he was just honest about it look this horrible government that does horrible things and is going to spend this money on nonsense isn't going to get a penny of it i'd go ah yeah i get it i understand they they all do this these wealthy individuals will be like i'm gonna donate 99 of my money and then like you'll get a guy named, you know, Seamus Coughlin, who's a billionaire. Yeah. And he'll be like, I'm going to donate $999 million to charity. And then he'll start a charity called the Seamus Coughlin Foundation, and I'll donate it to himself. Exactly. That way he can write off all of the income and then have it as a nonprofit and then keep the money.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Well, fun fact, there are actually studies that show inheritance taxes increase income inequality because the lower classes inherit a larger percentage of their net worth than the upper class does. And so usually what inheritance taxes actually do is just completely screw farmers over because a person has a farm that they spent their entire life working on. And yeah, like the farm and the farming equipment are rather expensive, but a lot of these people are just making a normal middle-class living. And then they have to pay this insane inheritance tax before they can pass it on to their children.
Starting point is 00:32:30 So they end up having to sell their land off. Yeah. That's why a lot of firms go into trust, right? They do it to avoid having to go through the process. Or LLCs, but trusts. Clever ways they avoid paying taxes. But for those who can't avoid it, or for those who don't know better than to avoid it, or even people outside of the context of farming who just have a house
Starting point is 00:32:49 and they don't know how to leave it to their kids without avoiding the taxes, they end up getting screwed. Millionaires and billionaires are going to find their way around any set of taxes, right? Just like Zuckerberg did, but poor people are not. Buying things as a rich person is not the same as buying things as a poor person. Nope. If you're a poor person who needs a car, you save up 10%. You go to the car dealership. You say, I want this $20,000 car. They say, okay, it's $2,000 down. And then you take out a loan for the other 18.
Starting point is 00:33:13 And then you got to pay a certain percentage on it. So you are losing money on your asset. By the time you finally get that asset, you've ended up paying double for it. So you've lost tens of thousands. If you're rich, you walk in, write a check, boom, you have the car. The car's value effectively stays the same. Let's use a better example, like land or property. If you're poor and you're buying a house, you get a loan, you pay interest, you lose
Starting point is 00:33:34 money to the banks to acquire this. After 30 years or whatever, you finally pay it off. You're like, I did it. I paid off my house. And you've lost twice the value of the house in the purchase. So basically, you only retain half of the value of your own money. You're rich and you got cash. Snap your fingers, you buy it.
Starting point is 00:33:50 You retain all of the value. Not the same thing. And then they do these tricks where, you know, they can give the money to their own kids. And who gets the value? The rich. The banks. Yep. The Federal Reserve, I guess.
Starting point is 00:34:02 But I guess this isn't supposed to be occupy wall street cast we are talking about election complaint about but hey you know uh steve talks about the stuff all the time i was gonna say yeah he wants to tax all these people i don't agree with these wealth tech stuff but steve's he's adamant on the well you have to because they're gonna use the money to fund all of these groups like true election rigging groups, whatever you want to call them. And I've always support. That was one of the first policies that Steve had pushed back when I was in high school watching him speak, I think, at the Oxford Union. And I was like, this is so right.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And what's so funny is, you know, put aside, I always love talking to Uber drivers, Democrat, Republican. And that's the one issue that they can always get behind, is that taxing the rich, but actually taxing them substantively and meaningfully and making the policy so it's not just that the hyper-connected rich get, they don't have to pay their fair share, but it's everyone. But then the government gets the money and gives it to the FBI.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Yeah, exactly. So therein lies the problem. Then you have to defund the FBI. Well, yeah, that's my concern. Not the child sex trafficking operation, but the rest of the fbi yes yeah well like with the fbi with all these institutions and it's not even just the deep states the government overall as tim alluded to it's all incredibly corrupt they spend our money horribly i understand what you're saying wealth taxes make me nervous for a number of reasons i I think, you know, in principle, my main belief, I would say economically is in property ownership.
Starting point is 00:35:29 And I don't just mean that in like a strictly laissez faire sense. I think the more people who own property, the better we off or the better off we are as a country. I think it gives everyone a stake in the future. You know, a country of property owners is obviously better than a country of renters. I'm a very big believer in the middle class and lower class being able to own property. And I think a lot has to be done in order to make that a realistic possibility for people in the future. But with wealth taxes, I mean, the issue is with unrealized capital gains, you're taxing something that doesn't actually exist yet. So then someone has to sell off a portion of their company and if it was just people who are ultra ultra ultra wealthy
Starting point is 00:36:08 i could sort of understand but that always trickles down right anytime the government says we're only going to tax people above a certain limit they end up lowering that bar until eventually we're all paying that well the initial income tax was like three percent and it was only for the ultra wealthy and now here we are with poor people paying 20%. Yep. I want to jump to this next story. We got this tweet from Mario Noffel. He says, breaking CNN on Trump's exoneration. Quote, it is regardless devastating to the FBI and to a degree, it does exonerate Donald Trump, Jake Tapper.
Starting point is 00:36:39 He says, is CNN becoming less biased? Will other mainstream media followers certainly play this clip of Jake Tapper for you? Regardless, the report is now here. It has dropped and it might not have produced everything of what some Republicans hoped for. It is regardless devastating to the FBI and to a degree. It does exonerate Donald Trump to a degree. They are still so scared. They're still so scared they're still so scared of liberals they can't just say trump did not
Starting point is 00:37:08 collude with russia he says to a degree it proves he didn't clue with russia no it literally proves he didn't collude with russia no my friend dream die no my friend want this to be true so badly exactly and no it does not exonerate trump to a degree. Trump was exonerated about all of this long ago. What it does to a degree is indict you and everyone else in the media who is parroting this nonsense. And the mainstream media language around this is so funny to me. AP put out this article about it and said, the findings aren't flattering for the FBI. Like, it's not looking good.
Starting point is 00:37:43 We don't want to say anything, but it's not looking good we don't want to say anything but it's not great and they say like uh that the investigation was done without was done without uh without adequate bias and routinely they routinely ignored or rationalized evidence that undercut the premise so the whole time they were aware that this was not worth it and they were like but we're gonna keep going literally what happened was they said they said trump has a p-tape and we said care to elaborate further and they said no do you guys remember the hoffman and poe story about somewhere some video of trump doing something yes i saw that let me see if i can let me see i saw that that was killing me that was killing me uh but no that's literally what happened right and they're never gonna admit they were wrong as i said you know it's it's just
Starting point is 00:38:23 one scam after another move on doesn't matter doesn't matter how many times they're proven wrong does not matter how here's the here's the story from 2018 the hunt for every trump reporter's white whale the elevator tape it says there it was some 1500 words into a story published in the daily beast the infamous donald trump elevator tape not the tape itself but the first reference the bombshell tape of trump in an elevator what it is is, the Wall Street Journal, the AP and others had chased a video that may not even exist. A certain contingent of journalists who'd spent months searching for something worth publishing. All that really mattered was the formal unveiling of the tape rumor to the public. It was basically nothing.
Starting point is 00:38:57 A story about literally nothing. And they all chased after it. The famous quote was the tweet where it where it was like somewhere something exists. What it is, we don't know what it's about. Not sure. But Trump was there. We believe it. Trump took the elevators, not taking the stairs.
Starting point is 00:39:12 It's not healthy. This is a real scandal. They were desperate to find anything. They were desperate to find it. And look, we know this. Well, it was it was very difficult to attack Trump on the basis of his policies because they tend to. I got to eat.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Elvin Post tweeted, A tape might exist of Trump doing something in an elevator, though exactly where that somewhere is and what that something might be no one in media can say. That's because no one in media seems to have seen the tape or is even confident it exists. What? What? What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:39:39 They were writing articles about this. Imagine somebody walks into the newsroom and they're like, I got huge news. What is it? I just want like. Trump may have been in an elevator at some point with a camera doing something. I don't know what he did, when he did it or why it was filmed. And they're like, whoa, can we find that tape?
Starting point is 00:39:56 Yes. I just want this to have been someone on his campaign who was like, I know one liberal journalist. I'm going to start this rumor. Just see where it goes. And they read these tweets and they're like, I started that. they can't tell anyone because somewhere there's a video of donald trump they're like they're they're children it's embarrassing it is embarrassing that a news outlet would publish that yeah something you know it happened somewhere this is literally
Starting point is 00:40:19 when you were in third grade and didn't read the book and then you got called in front of the class to do your book report you're like yeah something happened when somewhere they were like sit i got big news a video may exist of seamus coglin no no doing something now what he was doing i don't know in an elevator where it happened i'm not so sure but a video exists of shame is doing something somewhere in fact quite literally what you're watching right now is a video of Seamus doing something somewhere. That exists somewhere. It's not bad.
Starting point is 00:40:47 It's just literally Seamus talking about politics. But plausible deniability. But imagine this. Imagine this. You could literally play the, the media was so insane. I could, I could claim there is a shocking video of Seamus Coughlin doing something somewhere. And then everyone's like, whoa, I wonder what it could be and they imagine Seamus like juggling bowling
Starting point is 00:41:08 pins or skydiving. Who knows? When in reality, I'm referring to Tim Castaero. My biggest scandals were juggling bowling pins and skydiving. Who knows? We didn't say it was a scandal. We just said you're doing something. Exactly. And then everyone turns into a scandal by imagining the craziest thing. It really is bizarre as I guess I'm technically a journalist and it
Starting point is 00:41:24 pains me to say that because I reject it it i know whenever i'm meeting new people and i'm introducing myself like what do you do i'm like i'm a journalist i'm sorry i'm not gonna like smear you um but it really is bizarre to me right like running with a story like that when there's really nothing to report and i think what we're gonna see start to kind of unfold which obviously we all know here, but obviously the Hunter Biden hard drive story in terms of the collusion with big tech and the FBI, the CIA, that letter, I think that really proves that there is sort of a merger, really, I'd call it an axis of evil between these assets of the deep state and tech platforms. But I
Starting point is 00:42:02 think the third component to that really is the mainstream media. And I think we've always known they've laundered talking points on behalf of the federal government. But I think this case, again, yes, it's vindication. Yes, we know Trump didn't collude with Russia. But this is like clear, incontrovertible evidence that I don't think we typically get to see it so plain front and center, at least, you know, us mere American people, us mere mortals, us non elites. So i think we're going to start to see just like that hunter biden story has sort of started to unfurl and you get good tidbits every now and then i think there's going to be a lot more coming out about how the
Starting point is 00:42:35 media has really just taken whether it's fbi ca you name it their talking points and just repeated that mindlessly i got i got good news. Take a look at this, Beast. CNN's ratings are now below Newsmax. Amazing. Newsmax has surpassed CNN. Look at this, 8 p.m., 9 p.m., 10 p.m. slot. Newsmax is like, yes, we knew we could do it. We're beating CNN.
Starting point is 00:42:58 I mean, to be fair, CNN's been collapsing. But look, Newsmax is considered more conservative right they get smeared and attacked by the corporate press and now they're so they're displacing them cnn tried to play dirty games and now they will cease to exist but have you considered that somewhere someone might have done something in cnn may possibly have some of that footage also they're sorry yeah they're actually sorry i'm sorry i can confirm sorry there is there is a video of anderson cooper doing anderson cooper doing something somewhere well the thing is i'm not sure and where it is i don't know but the video does exist and if
Starting point is 00:43:36 we can find it oh boy oh that'll be really bad yeah it'll be really bad let's write 27 articles about it for the next three years. Every day. The white whale. A video that no one knows anything. Do you know how many videos of Trump in an elevator there are? Probably 17,000. Yeah, really a lot. Because all of these different casino elevators have cameras. Most big high security, high rises in penthouses have cameras. Every time Trump got in an elevator, there's a video of him in an elevator doing something.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I just want to know how many journalists spent hours watching like leaked or like footage they finagled away from someone it's trump just like standing in the elevator like any second now he's gonna do something crazy like there there's no commitment to truth there's no commitment to reality or honesty i got i mean look i'm a cartoonist i make jokes and i do political commentary i'm not a journalist not not anything of the sort. And I, given my state in life as someone who makes jokes, I could never imagine grabbing a story like that and repeating that to people.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Because you got to be responsible with your platform. I think it speaks to the two-sided nature of journalism today, right? They believe there is a reality that they live in and they are here to disprove your reality. They don't believe we all live in a common shared reality. They believe that if they can create enough evidence of their own belief system, you have to admit that their worldview is right and you have to conform to it. I think that's the strange thing about so much of essentially content creation that gets passed off as journalism today it's about arguing that the things you believe are wrong because my worldview is is necessitated on the fact that these things i know to be true
Starting point is 00:45:11 that trump is evil he colluded with russia and that if we vote for him the country is falling apart and in reality even if you don't like everything trump does he is not this like you know terrible person that should send you into hysterics well yeah, yeah, I mean, none of these journalists are journalists. Like 98% of the people who call themselves journalists are political commentators or they're bloggers or something like that. They write opinion pieces or they give you your perspective about something on television. Literally, I am telling you- While claiming they're real journalists and you're not.
Starting point is 00:45:37 While claiming they're real journalists and you're not. And this is the thing. I am saying this and I actually am willing to stand by this. There is a large percentage of the people who call themselves journalists who minus like running a business and producing animation do kind of the same thing i do which is read articles learn about the issues do a bit of research and then comment on them they don't actually go investigate issues on the ground they don't do interviews with people they don't try to find the truth uh and like granted i do try to find the truth so that's one difference but they will
Starting point is 00:46:08 just read things online on like their news feed or maybe they have someone who looks at articles for them and they'll start commenting on it but they're not like investigating the way you want a journalist to they're just reading things so they can give an opinion about it well i think the cherry pick facts so that they can serve their own reality and that's the only way to describe it they will say well we think there's a video of trump so therefore he's a suspicious character so therefore you should trust us when we say he did all of these things wrong i think they are completely uh biased to or they're completely blind to their own bias because so deeply embedded in their
Starting point is 00:46:45 worldview do you think that like yeah you know what i'm actually going to google this right now i want to see like what the bare minimum is for referring to yourself as a journalist there's nothing there's nothing so i could just say i'm a journalist because you know i like i did go to the march for life for for tim cast and interview people i guess i'm a journalist i mean i interviewed people about why they were at the march for life so i guess i'm a journalist i'm going to change my twitter bias and i'm going to add journalists to it right now i think there used to be a standard right like a journalist is different than a reporter which is different than a writer that's just different than a columnist but now it's a blanket term for anyone
Starting point is 00:47:14 who pushes who who presents disinformation or publishes something that resembles news news adjacent we might call it i'm gonna so i'm adding journalists to my bio and in fact i'm adding journalists first and foremost oh i don't have enough words left all right i'm just gonna put journalist in my bio there boom it's done yeah i'm literally a journalist now where's my blue check mark i don't know i i think you have to create one i think you can buy one the blue check mark is something you just buy i know now you just buy it i should have done some some journalism on that don Hey, hey. Don't be too hard on yourself.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Is Serge the only non-journalist here right now? That's so embarrassing. I'm currently doing journalism right now. That's so embarrassing. Mind you. I'm always doing journalism. Just by being alive. I do journalism.
Starting point is 00:47:57 No, I'm just kidding. I think that's the hard thing. We have moved. One of the benefits of the digital age is how quickly we can get new information out there and the new formats that we get to discuss news and have commentary. I mean, this podcast exists essentially like four different opinion writers talking at the same time, giving your opinion as opposed to reading four different opinion columns written around the same time about an issue. And that's more fun. On the other hand, we have, I think, sort of grade the classifications of news media
Starting point is 00:48:30 because anyone can be a journalist and also no one truly has any journalistic ethics or obligations. I mean, I think people do. I don't want to be too hard on all reporters. There are some great journalists who do fantastic work. But like, I don't think you should just be like i'm out here with my cell phone recording the street therefore i'm a journalist unless you are putting some
Starting point is 00:48:49 effort in you're researching you're trying to find the truth you're talking to people whose opinion you don't like i think that's what bothers me the most so many people go into this sphere just to talk to people who they like themselves and uh who produce talking points similar to the ones they would produce if they were the one being interviewed. I feel like you can really cross-apply that critique to virtually every industry in America in the sense of this whole refrain of, you know, trust the experts, right? The expert journalists at the New York Times and the CNNs and the Washington Posts of the world. They're actually not our intellectual betters and superiors. And I think the house of cards, right, this ability to enforce narratives like the russia collusion hoax like rests on this sort of worshiping this idea
Starting point is 00:49:30 that oh because you work for the new york times and you have journalists in your bio and you have a blue check mark we must believe what you say because you're from the federal government and you're telling us how to mitigate a pandemic we must listen to you and what you're saying and i i think it's sort of they just want the American people, again, who are so dumb because they see an article on Facebook, they're just going to start supporting some candidate. But I really think they just want us to blindly put our faith in every aspect of our life, right over our bodies, what we believe, what we think, what we eat, you name it, our you know intellectual superiors into this elite ruling
Starting point is 00:50:05 class and i think frankly that was what covid proved that this elite ruling class that is so smart and joe biden who you know that class of people used to mock i always thought they'd always say oh donald trump made a fool of america on the world stage and i always like this concept of the world stage like they care so much what their you know globalist brethren think of them and what america looks like but then you take a step back and you're like okay well even if i'm gonna run with that paradigm uh joe biden has made us look like a complete idiot and just dismal failure on the world stage i just i just want to point out as you were all talking i was i was doing journalism and i found the footage i found the footage this is a still image donald trump in the elevator look how shocked everyone is oh my god As you were all talking, I was doing journalism. Oh my gosh, you found the footage! I found the footage.
Starting point is 00:50:47 This is a still image of Donald Trump in the elevator. Look how shocked everyone is. Oh my gosh. They're shocked of Trump. Hard-hitting journalism. They're so surprised at his behavior as Trump is yelling about something. It's so shocking, this footage, that I can't even describe to you what actually happened in that elevator. That is horrifying. Trust me, I've seen it.
Starting point is 00:51:02 That is legitimately horrifying. It's real. Tim's a journalist. One of my favorites. one of my favorites of course this is an art an ai generated image of donald trump in an elevator i just typed it into my journey no no no ai generated journalism is what it was one of my favorite things you're mentioning a lot of things they were saying about trump when they had an anonymous source reporting that Trump said something completely insane on Veterans Day. Like, I frankly hate all veterans. It was the most absurd nonsense in the world.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Like, okay, he didn't say this. And it was from an anonymous source. It couldn't help but laugh because, you know, an anonymous source only works if you're a trustworthy person, right? If there's any reason to trust you. I have seen the stories that you guys tell when you have a trustworthy person yeah right if there's any reason to trust you i have seen the stories that you guys tell when you have a named source so no i don't trust your anonymous sources and frankly i think you probably made it up yourself well and theoretically if you had professional standards you'd call the trump white house or campaign wherever we were in the timeline and say hey do you care to comment on this we're gonna run with this story you should have a chance to respond that's supposed to be ethical, but they probably won't.
Starting point is 00:52:07 And even if they do, they'll say, you know, the Trump campaign categorically denied this while they shook in their boots because they're so scared of our amazing anonymous source, who we can't tell you anything about. It's real. Trust us. I think that it was important to acknowledge that this does happen in all walks of life. That's a really good point. I think there are so many institutions that people point to when they want to use authority to back up their arguments. I mean, we see this a lot. I am loathe to bring it up because I know we talk about a lot. But with the transgender ideology movement, people point to the American Association of Pediatrics and say, well, they say there are certain things you are supposed to do. They'll
Starting point is 00:52:41 point to all kinds of medical establishments. And I think we have to look back and say, why do we trust these institutions? Some of them may do good work. I don't know. But you should look into the institutions, who's on the board? How do they assemble themselves? Are they elected? You have to have a certain qualification. What is their mission statement? If you just throw out the name, like this is the authority, then you are either A, trying to hide the bias or B, you are not aware of the bias, which in and of itself is dangerous if you're putting yourself in a position where you're supposed to be giving out
Starting point is 00:53:10 solid information. Dude, mid-journey's crazy. It is wild. I just, I got another one. You're doing some real journalism tonight, huh? I'm tweeting another one. Let me try and pull it up for you. So Natalie, personally as a journalist,
Starting point is 00:53:23 I've never used an anonymous source. Have you ever? I'm trying to think if I've actually ever unironically used it or not. You know, most of my reporting, well, I guess either comes from the Hunter Biden hard drive or publicly available data that the mainstream media won't report on when it comes to Chinese Communist Party infiltration, because usually I'm reporting on how the mainstream media is compromised by the Chinese Communist Party. It's a very good niche market I've found.
Starting point is 00:53:47 But no, it really is funny, though. And like you guys are saying, people, I think, for the most part, hate journalists. I get that whenever I'm introducing myself to people and telling them what I do for work. I have never had a positive interaction with someone. Then when they find out that I'm technically not really a journalist because it's Steveve bannon and he's great then they're like oh you're normal you're like not one of them but people hate journalists yeah i didn't i didn't realize but my experience is i don't know if you've ever had this happen but if you talk to someone who is like progressive or left and who is a journalist and they like proudly introduce themselves as a journalist
Starting point is 00:54:23 like they are the bearers of truth i find this very fascinating like it is definitely a cultural shift some people do not trust the media and for good reason but there are some people who wear it as a badge of honor and that is also worrisome yes and of course i feel like we can't we have to give an honorable mention to the like fact checkers of the world and the media matters the media watchdog types because they're obviously in on the same grift. But no, they attack me all the time for working with Steve saying that I'm not actually an investigative reporter. It's like, fine, then point to one of my stories that's not true. I've never been sued. I've never published or printed anything incorrect. Frankly, a lot of my investigations have led to people wiping their twitter accounts getting fired getting removed from boards so the evidence is there right there's obviously action occurring
Starting point is 00:55:10 from my reporting so it's just i think you know you brought up the transgender movement a lot of this just i think has to also just do with like distorting words right like journalists doesn't mean what it used to mean because definitions don't really they're not rooted in reality because everyone can have different really versions of reality. And that's of course amplified by the fact that you turn on CNN, they say, oh, to a degree. Well, what does that mean? You know, it's not even doublespeak. It's just, it's a whole different language. I want to jump to the story about Patriot Front. We have this from Newsweek. White supremacist march on DC.C. sparks conspiracy theory.
Starting point is 00:55:47 FBI was involved. So the group is called Patriot Front. And I've seen a bunch of people on the right say that journalists as well as personalities that I think Elijah Schaefer was saying that he's really well connected on the right. He knows a lot of people from various different groups. He's talked to them. He's interviewed them. And he knows no one associated with Patriot Front. I thought that was very interesting because, you know, I've been
Starting point is 00:56:09 to a lot of these events. I used to go on the ground and do a lot of reporting. I've interviewed a lot of people and I've never met a single person who was associated with whatever this group is. Not that I'm on the ground in the past few years anyway. So maybe it's a new, I guess, in the past five years or so. But the funniest thing about it is we have this clip from the Joe Rogan experience of the Patriot Front March. I want to show you an image of these individuals. You can see they all have these hats. They have these masks. They all wear masks.
Starting point is 00:56:35 They have shields. They all wear the same things. Like somebody ordered the same blue jacket, like 300 of them. They all wore the same thing. They ordered the same white neck gaiters, the same khakis, the same boots them. They all wore the same thing. They ordered the same white neck gaiters, the same khakis, the same boots. Really well organized, I suppose. And then I want to show you what
Starting point is 00:56:51 Joe Rogan had to say in response to seeing this video. I think he was on a show with Matt Taibbi. Look at these guys. Where's the fat people? They're all wearing the same clothes. Do that again. What the fuck is this? Have you ever seen anything that looks more like feds? Where's the fat people?
Starting point is 00:57:08 Tell me that doesn't look like feds. Right? It's like the 101st Airborne. Bro, look at this. These guys are all runners. These guys look like they just got out of Bud's. I mean, what? Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Look at this. Get the fuck out of here. So I saw someone comment, you know, it's not real because whenever you see an actual right wing militia group, they're all morbidly obese or at least a handful of them are not all of them. And it's like that. That's actually fairly interesting. Now I have seen people push back and say,
Starting point is 00:57:37 don't underestimate them. They like that. They're being called feds. The action, the reality is someone posted an image from an internal fbi report where the fbi actually warns that among the fbi half of the agents are morbidly obese so this act so it's actually the other way around and the argument is the actual white nationalists do fight and train and and so it may be it may be real i don't know i honestly i don't know what to think all i know is it's weird
Starting point is 00:58:03 this group has has police protection they were a lot they did this march where they then were given an escort to it to the subway where no one cleared for them right it was cleared for them and no one was allowed to go in after them they've loaded into trucks under police watch and guard and then left so joe rogan may be right about this yeah i like when he said where are the fat people funny story i was actually walking through dc and i stumbled upon them while they were doing that so i was being an unintentional journalist yeah i was doing my journalistic duties and i had thought they were patriot front because i have obviously been to a lot of trump rallies and you know been been around and i know this isn't necessarily evidence or fact basedbased but you can get a vibe
Starting point is 00:58:45 from people who are there to protest for the right reasons you know there's just sort of a vibe to the Trump crowd or people who are there whatever the issue is because you can tell that they really want to be there and they're talking to other people who aren't necessarily there to attend the rally but they're trying to sort of proselytize and like spread the cause and spread the word and it was such an odd vibe and i know that's not again doesn't mean much but i had just never seen a group of people protesting who are allegedly so patriotic acting the way that they were just walking in where's antifa it was so where's antifa it was bizarre how come antifa is not protesting any of these guys no serious question yeah where they at and
Starting point is 00:59:22 why do they have a police escort right like some when i first saw a picture that someone's like oh it's like charlottesville and like the unite the right walk and i was like this looks way more organized than that did uh zeke arkham on twitter had this his thing and i guess he's in law enforcement he was saying like there's photos of them being arrested theoretically except they all still have their masks on and they're kneeling and he's basically going through being like you wouldn't let them continue to wear their masks because you have to make sure they're breathing when they're in police custody. Like you wouldn't have them kneeling in this position. Like none of this makes sense.
Starting point is 00:59:52 It's almost like you're waiting to hear like, oh, actually the whole thing was staged for a movie and they're filming it. And this is what they think this is like. It seems so strange, especially since there are police involved. Like, this is not normally how police respond to any kind of right group, extremists or not, demonstrating publicly. They usually have very little police support. That was funny when Joe was like, where are the fat people at? It's real, though.
Starting point is 01:00:18 That's very real. I don't know. What do you guys think? Feds? Look, I mean, I have no idea, but it's not something that would be shocking if it came out right. Like my instinct is just to assume that something's up at this point.
Starting point is 01:00:35 I mean, there are, it's almost foolish to not actively distrust them, right? So I don't know. Are there, there's obviously- I don't trust that Antifa's not feds. Like there's stories about the these antifa guys getting picked up driven around the block and then let go yep that's what they do with informants i wouldn't be surprised i mean there were federal fbi informants on the ground on
Starting point is 01:00:55 january 6th which apparently was also planned so therefore the fbi knew about it question mark like none of it makes sense the thing about this is like it's just so uniform they all are like in the sunglasses and the hat and the exact same jacket like i just really don't think there's it's too precise for it to seem like an organic movement and how it just immediately hits like the left wing social media machine the you know blue check mark the angry blue check marks on twitter and the mainstream media it just i i don't know i feel like it not even, it wasn't even about the march itself. It's how it gets rolled out. And then it's used as a pretext to start a broader narrative
Starting point is 01:01:30 about how white supremacy and nationalism and xenophobia are on the rise. And so we, you know, and then they make the jump. We need to crack down on, you know, random Twitter user 123. Right. Were there any chant? Like, was there any chanting? Was there any demands?
Starting point is 01:01:43 What was the message? Like, I don't understand other than the fact that it's a patriot front. Were there any chanting? Was there any demands? What was the message? I don't understand, other than the fact that it's Patriot Front, what is the theoretical racial messaging behind this activity? There's almost no media about it. They don't have any media presence. I don't see anything about Patriot Front other than stuff that's very nicely curtailed. In this specific demonstration. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Where is the chanting? We got some great sound bites from previous events. It's so convenient. It's really fishy, right? But the media has declared that it's a white supremacist event. So therefore, it has to be? It's the whole Russia hoax. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:11 That's what I think. Yeah. I feel like the FBI is going to come out and be like, it was actually just a drill. We were just practicing to see what would happen. The FBI headquarters was literally just, I mean, a block away from where they were marching. So. No, hold on. I'm not.
Starting point is 01:02:23 I'm not some kind of conspiracy theorist lunatic who's gonna say that these guys are protesting mother's day so they march this last i am not some conspiracy theory lunatic who's gonna say this is feds the obvious explanation is these are russian agents from the kremlin soviet no from the soviet union because putin wants to reform the ussr yes no they they they're soviet and they were asleep they were sleepers and when the soviet union collapsed they didn't know because they were brainwashed and then because putin wants to bring the soviet union back he activated the radio signal which oh my god triggered all of them into acting for uh the soviet union just like as a journalist, I could never say that the United States government
Starting point is 01:03:06 did anything wrong because being a journalist means defending the United States government. Yeah, my anonymous source told me that. Think about how insane that story is about Trump in the elevator where it said somewhere, something, Trump did something like that. Yes. That starts with like some rumor and then a bunch
Starting point is 01:03:22 of journalists who are psychopaths chase after this insane rumor. Imagine what's going to happen when someone gets an AI generated image on their phone and they go to a journalist and intelligence agencies will do this and they'll be like, journalist, I can't give you the photo because I'll get arrested because it's classified. But take a look at this and they'll show a low res AI generated image of Donald Trump, you know, juggling bowling pins or something. And then they'll be like, it's real. And then they'll be like, but I can't give it to you. But you know, keep it on the DL. That journalist then goes and tells their boss, I saw the picture. It was Donald Trump juggling bowling pins. I swear, you know, this is this is a source is good. I've checked his credentials. They're gonna go, wow, maybe we should run it. And then just like Buzz
Starting point is 01:04:02 News released the Steele dossier, they will report source that FBI confirms Donald Trump juggled bowling pins and they'll just walk right into fake news. That's where we're going. I think that we should start doing this on purpose, though. Like you should write down his paper, hold up to video camera with today's date, the story you're going to tell every left wing journalist that you know, and then wait until it becomes mainstream news and then be like, by the way, that was false. Like, I know that sounds like spreading
Starting point is 01:04:28 disinformation, but you should just point out that there are leaks, that there are people who take this information and intentionally try to paint everyone you know in a bad light. I think it's only a matter of time before those Tucker Carlson leaked videos get revealed to be deepfakesakes or at least one of them. Because I think about this media matters will publish anything. And so what someone could theoretically do is take 10 real videos, make one deepfake video, give them all to a leftist organization who will publish them all, then definitively prove the deepfake one by showing a video of them making it and say,
Starting point is 01:05:04 you're fake news and you make up stories, then what happens? The subject of those deepfakes can file a massive defamation lawsuit for the publication of a deepfake with proof. And then what's going to happen is they're going to say, we didn't know it was a deepfake. And they have to argue to the court. They thought it was real because of a source giving it to them. And then the argument can be made. No, they're lying. We want discovery to the court they thought it was real because of a source giving it to them and then the argument can be made no they're lying we want discovery we think they made it themselves and then the question is where did they get it they're gonna have to reveal a bunch of information and it's going to destroy whatever smidgen of credibility they may have had with anybody someone tweeted at me i can't watch right now since ryan air but they tweeted something to
Starting point is 01:05:39 me that has 55 000 likes it was posted yesterday and it's a fed gets recognized and called out at their stage patriot front march who's who tweeted it um this is from did you retweet it no no i have not retweeted i can send it to you um just retweet it it looks like like a mag account i have no idea if it's if it's uh legitimate or not but someone just told me in this so it could be fun to watch i just don't understand like what this protest is like i'm sorry they just walked through dc and they didn't say anything and then they got on the subway banner and it said something to the effect of i think like reclaim or rebuild the family so they're pro generic talk extreme hold on i like this it's not a white supremacist group, it's just a pro-family group. Yeah, re-reclaim families or something.
Starting point is 01:06:27 What does that mean? They're just a pro-family group. This is a pro-family extremist group, so they're getting it wrong. Must reclaim the extremist group. Oh, Seamus just retweeted it. I got the video right here. Let's play it. You're video-taping us? That's not acceptable. This is a public place your video you're trying to get us in trouble sir go find one i'm deleting the video no you're not gonna touch my phone you're not taking a video of us i recognize you yeah i know you do so give me my phone i'm
Starting point is 01:06:59 deleting the video this guy literally walked up to him and said in the most license and registration tone I've ever heard in my life. Give me that camera. You cannot film that video. Going to delete this. No, you're not going to touch my phone. You're not taking a video of us. I mean, a lot of cops would do that. I don't understand this.
Starting point is 01:07:18 He's taking a video even though you're not listening to the recording? So this is from yesterday. where james is trying to get a whistleblower where where's antifa man antifa the one time we actually need your help you know what i mean to go out and film these guys and figure out who they are y'all y'all are nowhere to be found but maybe that's the limits test antifa is not there and therefore this is not real like fed on it's like exactly the feds aren't gonna go film themselves why would antifa go film patriot front dude fed on fed crime makes me so sad i wish they got along better you ever see hear those stories about like the fbi and the dea stinging each other yes like the dea is trying to sell
Starting point is 01:07:54 drugs to the fbi and they're like freeze federal law enforcement wait so were we wait what's going on so when i was a kid there was three million dollars when i was a kid there was like a car at the end of our block being super sketchy uh and so my mom called the police she's like look there's something really weird going on i don't know what it is and then the police came and it turned out that they were undercover cops like pretending to commit a crime to like try to entrap somebody or catch them or something so we turned uh we turned the feds against each other, I guess. Your mom reported the police to the police. My mom called the police on the police. When they are actually terrorizing the neighborhood
Starting point is 01:08:29 by pretending to be criminals. No, they weren't terrorizing, but they were up to something really fishy. Yeah, but I'm sure your mom was not the only mom in the neighborhood who was like, what's with this lurking car? Yeah, yeah. She did not call the cops often but it was uh let's
Starting point is 01:08:47 uh we'll jump to this next story we got this from timcast.com bud light to release camo print bottles in an attempt to recover from dylan mulvaney fiasco they're like help yeah come on i think it's interesting they're doing this on the eve of Pride. They're going with camo for Pride. Bud Light sales at the end of May 6th was down 27.7%. And you can see all of their Anheuser-Busch's brands, ABI brands, Anheuser-Busch InBev, have dropped. And this is what the street says. New Bud light data suggests outrage against company is waning what does that really mean the reason why sales aren't getting
Starting point is 01:09:32 any lower is because they've lost already around 30 of their sales so close to one third let's just say a quarter of their of their customers have dropped them as this spreads it will probably stay around this number based a lot of people don't care a lot of i went to a grocery store they had bud light right in front i didn't even i didn't even think twice about it there was uh it was like have a barbecue like go out and grill and have tacos and then it was a bunch of stuff like taco shells and i was like oh whatever and then the whole there was a row with both sides was all bud light right and coolers and i thought i thought it was funny i was like oh look at that all the bud light and i didn't realize it till later i was like oh wait they moved all the bud light to the front of the store and it was on sale i just i love how sorry i
Starting point is 01:10:17 always kick this thing i'm a hazard i i love just the the blatant hysterical overcompensation like gay no we're not gay. We're army guys. Yeah, no, we're army guys now. Yeah, for sure. Look at us. I got camo beer. We're camo now.
Starting point is 01:10:31 It'd be funny if... No, but hold on. Hold on. You were wearing a dress last week. Camo? Is it Navy camo? No, I was going to say they didn't do a Navy thing, though. The brand is blue, so they might go for the Navy blue.
Starting point is 01:10:44 I love the thing everybody was mentioning. the navy made blue camo it's like you fall in the water and no one can see you oh my gosh like what's the point of that they're like hold on we have to push away from this reputation let's do something manly military service i got it it cuts their commercial in the navy like what is the best military branch we We have a great idea. No, I think this is sort of a crazy answer. I hope that anyone can see that this is such a gross way to try to sell your product off the military. Stolen valor. It's a little bit stolen valor. I think if Bud Light really wanted to sell their products, this is what they should do.
Starting point is 01:11:19 And I know it's going to sound insane. But I think they should just start infiltrating Pinterest with like a thousand ways to cook using only bud light like tell all the honor program right to be like it's cheap you can get bud light very it's not expensive right now some places you can get it for free dude and you can cook it in your slow cooker you can do all these things but you have to use bud light eventually that's the only way to sell your product you have to pretend that you're not actually a drink you You're just actually some random ingredient. I am getting more and more angry reading about this. I am seriously pissed off reading this. Anheuser-Busch will produce bottles with a camouflage print and images of the Folds of Honor program,
Starting point is 01:11:55 which provides educational scholarships for children and spouses of fallen and disabled American military service members and first responders, according to the executive. No, no, no, no, no. Earmuffs. If your children are in the room, you have been warned. Fuck you, Bud Light. Go fuck yourselves. This is probably 10 times more offensive than anything they could have done.
Starting point is 01:12:16 They spit in your face. They mock you behind the scenes. They talk in private about how they know you're mad and they refuse to apologize. And then they say, I know. Let's shove disabled military veterans in their faces as if that will absolve them of their responsibilities this is the is the most offensive way in my opinion to respond to the backlash well the first thing they did was bring up 9-11 yeah seriously wild they're like uh we're not gay 9-11 army america don't you see that Clydesdale we're the good guys the
Starting point is 01:12:47 horse we ride horses and uh we we ride we ride horses 9-11 army also this uh foundation i feel sad for them because they're going to also get backlash like no don't care legitimately doing trying to do good work like why would you accept a partnership with bud light right now like i don't care how much you think they're worth this is a bad idea yeah if they if if a company wants to align themselves with bud light that the only thing this european company is doing it's not an american company is repeatedly kicking us in the stomach over and over and over again just don't buy their products i mean trying to placate american consumers and i think it dovetails honestly kind of perfectly with the whole russia hoax it's like
Starting point is 01:13:31 we're gonna lie to you we're gonna offend you and your values for this long period of time but you still need to like buy into the american system you still need to trust the authorities you still need to trust the fbi you still need to buy our products we're not going to change anything yeah we'll give you the durham report we'll vindicate you slightly yeah we'll partner with like you know some 9-11 charity but it's like no we're done with you like you said i i won't use the word but it's corporate america they needed to they needed to come out and be like hey look we're really sorry about this we had had a marketing VP who wanted to endorse. And we think the campaign
Starting point is 01:14:07 was not appropriate for our audience. We didn't mean to offend anybody. So we hope you'll stick with us. We will not be pursuing campaigns like this in the future. I'd have been like, oh, that was really straightforward and very nice of them.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Instead, they just keep laughing behind the scenes and they're doing these tricks to try and make it seem like sales are returning. And all they keep doing is tricks to try and make it seem like sales are returning and all they keep doing is instead of assuming responsibility they absolutely refuse to say we were wrong so i gotta we were wrong sorry guys we that was we were wrong and they're just digging they're
Starting point is 01:14:35 they're digging deeper and deeper and deeper i gotta be honest i i think saying they're wrong still would not undo the damage i think a lot of dudes are just gonna see this as a gay brand from now on it's gonna gross them out for that reason they're not going to want to be seen as gay or they're not going to want to support it so they're not going to buy the beer that's it if they came out we're like hey uh sawi was an accident like our wonderful elected leaders do and the people at the fbi it's still it still wouldn't do anything i think these woke marketing executives though their their brains are so infested, like they have drunk the Kool-Aid on all of these social issues, that I also think that they also don't
Starting point is 01:15:09 even actually want to make money for their companies, right? That's not like in their DNA, right? Doing that is another cardinal sin that you can't engage with. And so I think these people have always used these platforms to push social agendas. So they're not going to apologize because they're like no we're using this venue this avenue for the explicit purpose that we were hired for and i'm sure they have tei beyond belief in terms of their hiring processes so you're self-selecting for these loons they already disavowed dylan mulvaney behind the scenes but they refuse to do it above the fold
Starting point is 01:15:43 they refuse to do it in a statement they They refuse to do it in a statement. They're going to their investors. They're going to the distributors and saying, we don't have anything to do with this. We disavow. But then the customers who are angry, they're like, ignore those people. They don't matter. Instead, we'll make a camo print and say disabled veterans over and over again. There you go. That'll get
Starting point is 01:15:59 our customers back. They want it to be like now, if you aren't drinking your beer, it's because you hate disabled veterans. You're like, I just haven't forgiven you for the past. I mean, I wish they would just go dark. You know what I mean? I wish they would just stop for a while. Let yourself fade into the evil man. I think people won't forget. I think you're right. But I think trying to start another campaign is only digging further into the hole, right? Like now it seems like you are just acting in the most smarmy way. You're insulting military veterans.
Starting point is 01:16:28 You're insulting the people who want to support military veterans. You're insulting your audience and you're not making yourself more likable in the process. Like nothing is going to repair this. The best thing they could do is to just stop talking for a while. Something funny, Seamus?
Starting point is 01:16:41 No, nothing. Something you want to share with the rest of the show? No, nothing. Serge just gave me a piece of paper with an idea on it that I also had earlier by the way so you admit
Starting point is 01:16:49 that you steal his ideas nothing no it's a cartoon that might be worthwhile it's about Bud Light I'll mention after the show we wouldn't want to spoil it
Starting point is 01:16:59 but they've totally tanked themselves it's really embarrassing what they're doing is it was super gross but they've continued to be disgusting. I don't see a way out of this for them, man. I really don't. If they're unbelievably fortunate, people will forget, but that's probably not going to happen.
Starting point is 01:17:15 No, it's just they keep, you know what the best thing they could have done is? Nothing. If they did nothing. If they made no commercial, no Clydesdale, no 9-11, no Folds of Honor, and just literally said, guys, shut up, and we just drop all marketing, and we're just going to sit back. And then everyone would be like, well, you know, they did that thing that one time, I'm not going to buy. And then it would have just tapered off. Instead, they're like, can we every week punch our customers figuratively in the face? It's also, yeah, it's just wild.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Like, as if that's, they're going for this low-hanging fruit right that they know people agree which is really insulting like 9-11 is something you're supposed to have reverence for because a lot of people died it was an attack on american soil soil to be like oh you know what will come out as like anti-9-11 or caring about the fact that 9-11 happened and that'll make up for the fact that we pissed off all of our customers and they'll start to relate to us again is insanely insulting it's like insanely insulting it's it's it's it's cultural to not buy this product yeah there's there's video there's someone posted a photo at a cvs where it's on sale they brought all the beer to the front they're like uh on
Starting point is 01:18:16 clearance i went to a liquor store and i was like who are they going to put a bud light i didn't sound like where's the bud light dads and then right there right by the door it said bud light sale sale sale yeah all of it on sale and you walk in and they have big shelf trying to get rid of it the product won't move yeah it's crazy i saw somebody send me something on twitter it's like four dollars 95 cents for a 30 rack of wow that's crazy we had uh some of the staff here were mentioning that they were at a local bar and they asked the bartender bartender said they can't move it at all so they took it off tap and put cores light in because nobody will buy it i don't blame you can't move the product what are you gonna do and this is what people don't realize though and this
Starting point is 01:18:50 is part of why it's been so effective everyone's arguing oh this is such a such a good move by conservatives on the part of the culture war or this is such a huge victory in the culture war on behalf of conservatives i don't know how much of this is actually culture war in the sense that people who are invested in culture and politics are paying attention to it and strategizing so much as it's just normal people being grossed out. Well, I think that's part of it. It's a grassroots indication of the culture war that it's not just about people who are in positions that are adjacent to the media. It is about what the public actually will tolerate and what they won't. I mean, we talk about all the time,
Starting point is 01:19:26 voting with your dollar. This is the ultimate vote with your dollar moment. They don't want companies like Bud Light essentially making fun of them and assuming they'll take whatever advertising
Starting point is 01:19:36 is doled out to them and they'll go along with it. And I think that's a really powerful moment. I mean, in some ways, it is, I think, something a lot of conservatives will look back on and say, like, we had an influence. Like, yes, I'm sure Anheuser-Busch
Starting point is 01:19:49 is suffering. They're about to face massive layoffs. There are probably really serious financial repercussions. And there are people at Bud Light who don't deserve that, right? Who didn't, who were never in a position to make these decisions. On the other hand, I'm really grateful that as a culture, there was something that we drew a line at. Well, it's that, but again, I think a lot of this just boils down to the fact that a man in a dress is very off-putting. It's a very off-putting thing. And it's not so much people going, I'm insulted by the fact that this advertiser is trying to shove this down my throat and doesn't understand who I am as an advertiser or as a customer. I think it's just them going, gross. I don't want that. It doesn't have to be one unanimous reason.
Starting point is 01:20:26 They just all collectively decided this was too far, that they don't want to keep going with this. And I think that's something that, you know, people talk about the pendulum swing and with cultures, we become more progressive
Starting point is 01:20:37 or, you know, whatever else. Like this is one of those moments where I start to feel like it's swinging back the other way. We're going to start slowly moving towards center after years and years of pushing everyone to these extremes. They went too far. I want to jump to
Starting point is 01:20:50 this story here. We got a tweet from Gwyn Hogan outside P.S. 17 in Williamsburg. Kids chant, quote, We support asylum seekers, but not on school grounds. You've got to hear it to believe it. You hear that kind of just like trailing off like muttering. Let me just say this is there's a few ways I see this. And this is these kids. One, probably were told a chance. I have no idea what's going on, too. It's like basically them chanting thank you, you government for hitting me twice instead of thrice like the government is forcing illegal immigrants into your into your schools and you're like that part's okay just not in my school please do it to somebody else not me also uh this this is so embarrassing this is why conservatives lose right you they're buying into
Starting point is 01:21:41 the framing that you're buying into their framing by by apologizing in your statement we're like we're like look we're not against asylum seekers okay like conservatives new york i i understand that these are new york they're having it they're having like a government can i have another i know but they're arguably debating from like a conservative position this is something people would call right wing like oh yeah you don't want them uh on school grounds how bigoted of you it's like well they're coming out and saying they're against that but they still feel this need to apologize i think you guys when mixed up shamus these are urban liberals who are standing outside cheering for for quote-unquote asylum seekers
Starting point is 01:22:19 and then being like but like why in my school yeah just cocked. You should do it to someone else. I guess for me. Maybe more like the Martha's Vineyard thing. Yeah, I feel like for me, it's like, don't we get mad at the left when they make young children who are confused about their gender identity testify before their state legislature saying like, if you don't allow this medical intervention to be passed, then I will personally suffer. Like, don't we not like it when we use children for our talking points? Why are we bringing small children out here to say, please don't send adult, I assume
Starting point is 01:22:48 they're adult asylum seekers to our school. Like, why are they having to have this battle? Why is no adult fighting for them? Also, I mean, just the fact that you would have to preface this with, I'm not bad. I don't have the bad opinion, but I don't want them here. Well, you're going to lose because you're already starting from a position of sorry sorry i'm sorry yeah that does it it's like thank you government i have another yeah yeah yeah i'm so sorry i'm sorry so this is what happens i think this story is actually a really great example of modern politics in that these urban liberals say it's okay that the
Starting point is 01:23:21 government does bad things just please do it to other people yeah so the government says we want to do a bunch of bad stuff they say okay so long as it goes over there yeah i think you're right instead of just saying no don't do the bad thing to anybody well it's like um it's like what we saw with martha's vineyard that was hysterical they were freaking out like we can't handle all of these people really it was like four dozen exactly how could you do this to us if any community in the country could handle it it was martha's vineyard they're like round them up get rid of them but you know there's like no organic support for the issue when they roll out the children i remember they would always do the school walkouts at first it started with the gun violence and they i remember at my high school um i forgot what shooting it was
Starting point is 01:24:05 but they had a what they staged a walkout out of class except the administration like sanctioned it and literally gave them a special space to hold it it's like who are you walking out on the school i work for put it on the official schedule for exactly and then they did the same thing with the climate change walkout and to be frank i think that's why they're pushing um a bunch of this transgender you know gay stuff on kids because i think they realized the way that they sort of mainstreamed a lot of these climate change and school shooting issues was by getting the kids behind it and having them do these walkouts and mass protests they're like if we can get the young kids you know drinking the kool-aid on this issue greta thunberg effect right exactly but it's like tell you how many teachers were like
Starting point is 01:24:48 she's so what a bizarre sign it's like south park when they're like what's going on we're protesting the war okay yay no school yeah this looks like the teacher said kids were uh at 11 we're all gonna go protest the kids are like okay i guess and the funny thing is the kids don't even have any enthusiasm like they like they really don't care to say words and some of the kids are laughing clearly not paying attention just like i don't know i'm not in school what a crazy proposal i don't know the the specifics but to even have like asylum seekers on school grounds like the fact that that's something that we're even debating that there needs to be a protest about i mean like that's right but there but there aren't any asylum seekers anywhere because none of these people are asylum seekers they're adult adult male economic migrants yeah they're not asylum not i i doubt a single one of them is an asylum seeker they are men who are told
Starting point is 01:25:39 online that they can come to the united states because the borders are open and there are jobs they go to the border and then they ask and they talk to reporters and the reporters like why are you here and they're like because there's jobs no i think that is what happens sorry i can't fix this ufo uh i i think again i have to go back to we don't like it when the left trots out children to argue their talking points so even if you're trying to say like this is slightly um you know an immigration restrictionist talking point why are we making the children do it? We have to hold ourselves to the same standards that we hold other people to. And I think you're right.
Starting point is 01:26:12 I don't think these kids, these kids were like, hey, we can go outside. You're going to film us for social media? Haha, hilarious. Like they don't care. And I appreciate that about them, right? Like they're children. They just want to go to school and hang out with their friends. That's why we don't drag them into our political bio didn't incite this protest we can't
Starting point is 01:26:28 be sure but yeah just no it's just some some uh social studies teacher who's like i'm gonna tell you about civil civic disobedience we're all gonna come outside i made these signs for you to hold i had a teacher once who needed to get exercise so she would just turn it into a school thing where she's like we have to go outside for science and then she would just like walk around and get real sweaty i'm like we're not doing anything for science it's like we're in a city walking around the block at least you got to go outside though that was nice yeah no we didn't care we were like yay outside woo and then the teacher was like trust me it's for science okay girl we believe you like i think that's part of it right our education Our education system is not extremely effective,
Starting point is 01:27:05 especially these look like there are a ton of young boys. Young boys don't benefit. Those signs don't look too good. Well, they don't benefit by sitting at a desk all day. That's not the optimal learning situation for like, what are these, middle school boys? I think that we can all agree it's good to have students get learning about the news
Starting point is 01:27:22 and be engaged in cultural events. But like, I think this is some teacher saying come on let's organize something i i think it's i don't know i get frustrated with stuff like this because it will see this video and nothing will happen right if there are really adult men that are being inserted into the school the fact that these kids are theoretically upset about it won't mean anything to the school board that's kind of hilarious they were like we got a bunch of adult men who need to sleep in your school, kids. And it's like, well, all right. And let me show you this other follow-up video.
Starting point is 01:27:51 This really exemplifies everything very well. Listen to this. Who are they? Who are they? Exactly. Who are they? Families who fled war. They're not...
Starting point is 01:28:00 Families who fled war is what she's saying. Families. What war? They're not families? No, they're men. They're all men coming in. They're all individual men. Why are they fleeing?
Starting point is 01:28:08 And they can come and go. Fleeing. And this is a school. This woman should, right away, there should be like, there should be a group of people who go to her and say, ma'am, I'm sorry, but you can't vote anymore. We're just not allowed. We just, we've all agreed. Also, this is, all right.
Starting point is 01:28:24 So this is one massive problem with the discourse whenever anyone tries to set any standard no matter how reasonable they're met with a million different concerns about the level of culpability there might be for people who want to violate that standard so what she's essentially saying is well why did they flee why are they here, it doesn't matter. They shouldn't be at that school. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 01:28:49 That's it. Either explain to me why that's an appropriate place for them to be and change my mind or stop engaging with this conversation. Don't give me a million and one reasons why we should feel bad for them. We can feel bad for a lot of people, but we need to have rules as a society. For this woman woman you don't approach her and argue with her and let her ask why you're blocking say why do you want adult men in the school just just just give me a reason and then when she goes their families fleeing war and
Starting point is 01:29:16 be like okay well that that's not what we're talking about i i would i'll put this i'll say okay ma'am if you came to me with a family and said this family fleeing war needs a place, I'd be agree with you. But my question to you is, why do you want adult men by themselves looking for jobs, sleeping in my kid's school? And also, since you're so enlightened and empathetic and understanding, why don't you go buy some hotel rooms for him? Why don't you take care of it instead of putting it on the children of the community by placing them in their schools i propose i said i said you know let's get the republicans on this one a bill that says all you know all these asylum seekers you know if someone comes into this country and applies for asylum they should be placed inside the home of an urban liberal democrat voter go to new york and say they applied for asylum so they get to live in your house. Sorry. Sounds good. You voted for it because you know what happened? These people would vote for
Starting point is 01:30:08 border security in two seconds if we did that. The issue is this video exemplifies how people in Democrat cities vote to bring in illegal immigrants and then try and force them on poor people. Say not in my backyard, in your backyard. No, no, no, no. We're going to put them in your backyard from now on. Let's get that bill. These people go to cities and they backyard, in your backyard. No, no, no, no. We're going to put them in your backyard from now on. Let's get that bill. These people go to cities and they put them in your house. This lady who's like their family's fleeing war. Let's get two of these adult men and put them in her home. And it's not just force them.
Starting point is 01:30:33 It's then guilt and shame them. If you dare to reject the hypothesis that just dozens of fighting age men should just be able to basically invade your country, invade your house. And I think immigration is one of the issues that the elites really, really, really love to lie to us the most about. And I know there are a lot of issues that could compete for that spot. But I think they just love the issue of immigration, in part, because I think at their core, they hate this country, they don't think it actually, there's nothing to actually being American to them. But the fact that they have the gall to stand up there, whether it's Democrats holding press conferences, you know, on the Hill saying that immigration is actually a
Starting point is 01:31:08 boon to America, it's actually great for American workers, they're doing the jobs that Americans want. It's such a lie. It's so ridiculous when it's depressing the wages of American workers, particularly the people that Democrats purport to protect the most minority communities. I just think they, they really get off on line to the American people about immigration. And it's one of the issues, honestly, that red pilled me.
Starting point is 01:31:35 I was born and raised in Los Angeles and I saw firsthand how hypocritical these people were when it came to not just immigration, but to every issue. It was fine if it was happening elsewhere, you know, somewhere where they weren't impacted, but the second it, it encroached not even necessarily in their backyard, but just a little too close for comfort, suddenly they reversed, at least in private, on the issue and they would do everything they could
Starting point is 01:31:54 to make sure it didn't affect them. I mean, you can very easily predict whether someone is going to be liberal or conservative based on whether they're going to pay the price for liberal policies. And people who have to pay the price for liberal policies inevitably become conservative and people who do not have to pay any price for it keep spouting their liberal talking points and then shaming anyone who has to suffer because of their policies for not embracing the suffering with absolute joy yeah i mean it's crazy as well if you go to la like and you would know this as well if you're in beverly hills the town police there or like the the area police keep that little area very nice and very clean and very tidy you drive about 10 minutes
Starting point is 01:32:28 down the street and you're on sixth street and it's a totally different story remember the guy who was cheering on on twitter the riots and then once the ride started heading towards beverly hills like no why are you tweeting like don't come here don't go downtown go where the poor people live no and then he said sorry to go back to the martha's vineyard example they immediately removed them none of the migrants stayed on mar Martha's Vineyard example, they immediately removed them. None of the migrants stayed on Martha's Vineyard. They shipped them to Cape Cod, where they stayed on a military base.
Starting point is 01:32:51 They were willing to get rid of this problem as soon as it was inconvenient to them. That's why, again, I said this before. We're going to go to Super Chats. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button? I'll take credit. It's running perfect for me. There's nothing no issues here whatsoever.
Starting point is 01:33:03 It's because I talked about Cape Cod. They're so touchy on the internet about that. Yeah, on our end, everything is totally fine. It's literally just YouTube. Lag spike, glitch. Yep, that's YouTube. Sorry, I was stepping on a cable. It's the FBI.
Starting point is 01:33:17 It's like frame jumping now. We've got no dropped frames. We've got perfect connection. We've got high-speed internet. There's nothing wrong. Anyway. Blame YouTube. Yeah, blame YouTube. If this UFO was the thing that kept the show running and you guys sat me near it i'm gonna be real mad because i don't need this kind of pressure let's uh let's read some super chats raymond g stanley jr says tim local distributor stacked of pallet uh pallets
Starting point is 01:33:39 of beer everywhere bud light and back corner nearly empty me to clerk dang you selling lots of bud light him nope it's the only beer we didn't restock. Yeah, I mean, if you can't move it. This is what John Rich said. At first, he was like, look, we're not moving it. We're not moving Bud Light. We're not getting rid of it because of the boycott. It's just nobody's buying it, so what are we supposed to do?
Starting point is 01:33:58 We're going to stock a different beer if nobody wants it. Yeah, it's going to go bad otherwise. Yep. Holistic Patriot says, we want official Tim Pool beanies. Big boxes of official beanies. Actually, I got one right here. Whoa, whoa. Hold on. I'm a journalist now. Give me a beanie. There you go. Seamus is going to put on the
Starting point is 01:34:14 official Timcast beanie. Should I have which logo facing forward? It can also be worn like a slouch beanie if you unfold it. Oh, no way. Yeah, so you can wear it as however that it's frozen, and then I can see on our back and everything seems to be fun all right where are we at wrath of paul says you were talking about bear attacks yesterday and my first thought was i'd rather take my chances with the bears in the middle of nowhere
Starting point is 01:34:37 than live among humans in some of these big cities completely agree we do need bear wrestlers that's what i learned yesterday as a journalist i believe it is the case that more people are harmed by other people than bears that is a fact from you the fact checkers agree that is i've learned thank you the fact checkers in the room they're consenting the fact checkers all agree with me i am correct it's it's funny because it's slightly it's sort of your tucker carlson voice just not quite my this is how i talk it's it's funny because it's slightly it's sort of your tucker carlson voice just not quite my this is how i talk it's a it's your journalist voice this is my journalist voice all right mad max says derm report in six words they all got away with it watch greg gutfeld's epic rant about the derm report very interesting
Starting point is 01:35:17 all right where are we at unwoke says i like the name of your decaf coffee. Sure do wish I thought of it first. Talk about seditious conspiracy. So we have two decaf brands or blends. There's a light and a dark decaf. Sleepy Joe and Unwoke. That's right. And those were the names came up, were thought of by our members. If you want to buy our coffee, go to castbrew.com. You'll be able to buy them there.
Starting point is 01:35:44 Seamus can't do it. He can't impersonate. I'm getting close. See, practice makes perfect. Practice makes perfect. As a journalist, I will learn. But you're just talking. That's how you're talking.
Starting point is 01:35:56 But you're not changing your voice. We sound so similar. It's that famous Garfield Rich King. Joe Rogan is also hard to do an impression of. I know. I'm getting, I'll nail yours down eventually. Like Trump is a little difficult, but he has that nasally, you put your tongue over your nose.
Starting point is 01:36:13 Quite frankly. You put your tongue over the back of your mouth when you talk to get that nasally kind of thing. Yes. And then you got to get that country. You go down when you say it. Everyone in the chat, tell me, do I sound like Tim? Let it everyone in the chat tell me do i sound like tim let me know in the comments below you don't they'll decide they will decide that was more
Starting point is 01:36:30 like tucker carlson you don't sound like him but i can understand what cadence you're almost picking up on exactly no i know what you mean i'm like that's that's what i have so far we'll work on it i'll keep doing the tim voice and then eventually i'll have a tim impression down here's the point no how could you guys say no eventually i'll get the tim impression down and then when on days where you're sick i'll just put the beanie on and i'll think i'll just pretend here's my point look jordan peterson has this thing where he's like psychologist he's got this like way of speaking exactly him exactly and then like for whatever is about me or joe there it's just generic perhaps like joe has a unique voice you know when you hear it but Joe, it's just generic, perhaps. Like, Joe has a unique voice,
Starting point is 01:37:05 you know when you hear it, but impersonating it's like, how do you, you can't, you can't get it. Well, Joe Rogan's voice is, it's like, I think you could probably get his cadence down, but his actual intonation,
Starting point is 01:37:19 like his voice, I'm sorry, you could get his intonation too, but the voice itself is so unique. We gotta send one of these beanies to Michael Malice. Cause he, he did that one episode where he wore the same clothes as me. And then, and then he kept the beanie and he hung up on his wall.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Right. I literally got asked on Twitter what I like with Michael Malice. And I said that he's a showman and he's not afraid of costumes. Yeah. Yeah. He also has the, I think we gave him the aluminum foil hat that Alex Jones made. No way.
Starting point is 01:37:43 I mean, those are artifacts, man. All right. Where are we at? Where are we at? What do we have on these here super chats? Let's find a good super chat.
Starting point is 01:37:54 One day I'll get my impression of Tim down. Do you practice? And then you'll all be sorry. Before you run about at night, you stand in the mirror. You'll all be sorry. Well, clearly not. If I did, it would be A+. But you do.
Starting point is 01:38:03 What have you been practicing for years already? It's just that difficult. It's a really hard one to crack but i'll get it let's grab some what do we got spork which says they're not conspiracies they're spoilers ah i've heard people try and do joe rogan and they just they can't get joe rogan maybe that's what the video of trump in the elevator was it was trump oh my gosh i do want to see that video then seamus as a journalist please find trump doing an impression i will rogan i think it's my duty as a journalist journalist as a journalist joe hill says don't forget ukraine also interfered in the 2016 election by helping clinton with steel dossier uh ukraine i think it was um
Starting point is 01:38:44 manafort documents wasn't it yeah they they i thought it was manafort but yeah yeah and then even politico said that they were scrambling after interfering to uh to help the clintons and then politico wrote another article later claiming that their their article was disinformation from russia yeah just hilarious politico is russian disinformation, says Politico. But they told you themselves, so you can't be mad at them.
Starting point is 01:39:09 Joshua says, once again, Seamus is rolling 20s. He's literally the reincarnation of Midas at this point because everything about him is pure gold, even the potatoes.
Starting point is 01:39:17 You are so kind. Thank you. Except my Tim impression. But I do appreciate the compliment. That's very kind. Amish man says, incredible guest.
Starting point is 01:39:24 I was a huge fan of yours growing up watching you on Boy Meets World. Please tell Ben Savage to come on Timcast IRL next. Do you hear that a lot? I get that a lot and I actually didn't know
Starting point is 01:39:34 who she was at first. I don't know her name. People just say, I know the character is Topanga but I don't know the actress's name. I should know. Topanga? Like,
Starting point is 01:39:42 they were stoned when they were writing that show. They were like, it's like a show about a kid in school. And, you know, his name is, what was his name in the show? Corey, right? I think Corey. But there's also.
Starting point is 01:39:51 Corey's a good name. And then you got like John, Mike, Bill, and Topanga. And they're like, what was that last one? And her explanation is like, I've never really seen the show, but it's like, her parents are hippies. And let's not talk about it again. Well, there's Topanga Canyon. Yeah, they're saying like she's named after like. Right, above Malibu
Starting point is 01:40:05 yeah but the thing is like some TV shows names that are in them become popular sort of trend as baby names but I don't think
Starting point is 01:40:11 anybody picked up on the Topanga trend I think it's kind of a cool name is this what you're gonna name your daughter maybe oh future Topanga
Starting point is 01:40:18 too on the nose no people always say that and I never do you watch the show no oh no I honestly growing up I never. Do you watch the show? No. Oh. No, I honestly growing up, I never really watched movies or TV. So I never understand pop culture.
Starting point is 01:40:32 Like I was on War Room once on an episode. And Steve turned to me. He was asking me how I do a lot of my reporting. And I said, well, primarily pattern recognition. And he goes, you're just like Rain Man. You're like the guy. And I didn't know what he meant by that. So I like thank you and then i later looked it up i was like oh i think you just called me like autistic which i could i don't know but yeah rain man was really good at playing
Starting point is 01:40:55 blackjack yeah he's really good at math so yeah take me to a casino but i hadn't seen rain man i only saw it passively when i was a kid but i know the the trope is like they go to Vegas and they play blackjack. So I was like, I really want to watch this movie. And it's barely about that. It's literally just a story about a guy who comes to love his brother that he had just met for the first time. And I was like, oh. Yeah. I thought it was like about a sweet film.
Starting point is 01:41:15 It is. I thought it was going to be about like, I thought the movie was literally a guy takes his brother to Vegas to win a bunch of money and get super rich when it was really a guy finds out he has a brother at one point goes to Vegas one time gets kicked out but then decides that he loves his brother even though his brother is developmentally disabled and then tries to fight for custody but then eventually just ends up
Starting point is 01:41:38 visiting him periodically and I'm like oh that's not at all what I thought the movie was going to be I read the Wikipedia summary and thought it's not at all what I gathered from that I thought it was just about gambling there's like i have to actually watch it that's the part people remember like right sorry go ahead is there a movie about like some guy at mit who's like then part of a secret poker league yeah and they're counting cards this happens though where you'll remember a movie being about something and you remember that being the whole movie and it turns out that's just like a 10 or 15 minute sequence.
Starting point is 01:42:06 Like I remember I rewatched Home Alone a couple of years ago and the sequence where he's like beating up on the burglars with his booby traps, I think it's like 10 to 20 minutes. It's really, most of the film is just about him like running around being stupid while his parents are gone. And when he's in New York, you know, he just meets Donald Trump. That's the whole movie. It's just two hours.
Starting point is 01:42:23 It's literally just the same movie twice. It's the exact same movie twice like every plot point it's the only time i understood sequels right they're like this format worked children loved it we'll plug in slightly different variables we'll do it again who's even the same criminals in new york you know sure we're who else would be after him we don't want to create too many bad guys we don't freak children out that's true there aren't that many bad people in the world sean austin says tim deep fake trump in an elevator picking his nose and release it as the elevator tape ultimate troll i saw that so i went on mid journey and i just made trump screaming and then trump crying and then it's trump holding his neck going like in an elevator and i just quote tweeted the huffington post thing like there it is there's your there's
Starting point is 01:43:02 your i found it best journalist ever that's right i tried a couple i tried a couple and i couldn't get it to work because they violated the tls i i wrote like trump firing a gun into the air yelling and it wouldn't make it and well every time every time i tried to make joe biden or trump uh it would say rejected and i'd have to click appeal and then it would say your appeal has been approved and it would make the image and then the weirdest thing is i tried doing some very basic images what i was trying to do was take a picture an existing picture and then write something like a woman standing in this picture and then it would be like rejected this is inappropriate content i was like what uh you know what i think was happening so mid journey is trained on the internet and i think the issue is the the prompt discovered like my prompt was innocuous a woman standing in a forest i was like
Starting point is 01:43:52 here's and then you can upload the picture and then it'll render it i think mid journey was trying to make sexual images because of what the internet is when you search for women maybe like sports bras or like women in bikinis and stuff like that so the ai was like nope this is making something naughty we can't show it to you and i was just like hey wait a minute like i did not ask for anything bad i'm trying to just see what mid journey can do here so a bunch of the stuff i tried doing i would put like uh here's the trick you put high res photograph caption getty images and then what that'll do is it'll imitate a Getty image, which is typically like news footage of an event. And that's how I made Donald Trump running with Sonic the Hedgehog.
Starting point is 01:44:34 And it looks actually like Trump is running. Sonic looks totally fake because, of course, it's not a real thing. But Trump looks like he's actually running. And then I wrote America's back. So that's those are some of the tricks. You'll also notice if you go into the mid journey rooms and discord there's this huge wall of text people use that lists a whole bunch of camera and file formats to force the ai to make high resolution high dynamic range photographs that look really really good yeah it's it's crazy what they can make when you
Starting point is 01:44:59 when you put in that massive prompt it's cool stuff yeah kane abel says seamus if you want to be a journalist to just copy the mainstream by making bull crap up that is pretty much all they do now you can just add a twist to it to make it funny i'm excited to start doing that yeah so like let's let's let's do this you don't want to get sued so uh seamus put on this beanie right well as we know news outlets have claimed Tim Pool is far right. We can now write Seamus Coughlin dons offensive far right costume on air, considered deeply offensive by many, shocking display, et cetera, et cetera. And then, you know, people can start to imagine after you tweet that out. I am shocked by Seamus Coughlin donning such a racist and far-right costume that's deeply offensive to
Starting point is 01:45:45 marginalized people someone else can then say summarizing Seamus Coughlin was accused of wearing racist outfit so you can keep changing the story this is what they do and then it's me dressed as a leprechaun but it's all it's it's all uh you can't sue over it because it's it's it this is this is what's happening to our society it's the bank robbery analogy I used a guy walks up to a bank and throws a burlap sack on the steps and keeps walking. That's not illegal. Another guy walks in, picks up the burlap sack and throws it in the lobby, carries out his business. Another guy brings the burlap sack to the counter and says, I think someone dropped this and then leaves. Another guy throws a note, a demand note, onto the steps.
Starting point is 01:46:20 Someone brings it in. No one knows who wrote it or where it came from. The guy who picked it up on the ground didn't do it. And then all of these people did one little thing. So when the money is removed from the bank and then thrown into a truck, not a single person robbed the bank. No one goes to jail. This is what's happening right now in society. Journalists will say something like, I heard Seamus was racist.
Starting point is 01:46:39 And then someone will write Seamus accused of being racist. Then another journalist will write Seamus, a deeply racist individual or a man accused of being deeply racist, comma. And then someone else will see that and be like Seamus Coughlin is known as a deeply offensive racist who makes racist comments. They'll just keep changing the story until they make up and fabricate their own sources. And then they can write whatever they want. They can be like Seamus, you're a controversial figure who's been accused of being a racist. What do you say to that? You're like, when?
Starting point is 01:47:07 By who? And then it's this huge chain of fake news written by the same people. Exactly. Well, we have this source, this source, this source, this source, this source. It's idea laundering. It's several Google page results deep that they have this, but there's no supporting evidence. All right. KJ Seath says, Tim, I have grown towards towards vivek's message do you think his campaign is real
Starting point is 01:47:26 or is it for book sales i think it's real um i think a reasonable person can conclude that vivek probably won't win but a lot of people run for messaging purposes i'm not gonna uh tell you i think vivek really does want to win i genuinely think so i would i would argue that he probably knows he wouldn't but i'm not going to say that because i don't know what he's thinking i would just i think he's a smart guy he knows his likelihood of winning is very low very low i would imagine his intent is to force a message on esg onto the debate stage and to push this into modern politics however i think he's trying to win and he wants to win you know i think even trump was surprised that he won. What was the story like on election night when the results came in? He was like, did we win?
Starting point is 01:48:08 Like, did that really happen? Like, wow. Like, he didn't think it was going to happen. But I think Vivek's great. I think he's great. What do we got here? Absinthe X says, Seamus, Catholic Church has commands as don't covet your neighbor's wife and things. But Exodus only says don't covet your neighbor's wife and things but exodus only says
Starting point is 01:48:26 don't covet anything so which commandment was removed so the count still comes out as 10 wait hold on you're saying exodus says so exodus does list a number of things you can't covet there uh but if you actually read exodus 20 it's a number of different statements so jewish people and protestants number it a little bit differently than Catholics. So for example, at the end, we break up the ninth and 10th commandment into thou shall not covet your neighbor's goods or covet your neighbor's wife. And I'm sorry, coveting your neighbor's wife is the ninth commandment, coveting your neighbor's good is the 10th commandment. But yeah, there are other things listed. I guess I'm not entirely sure what he's asking. Like what was was i don't know if i understand either yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:49:08 could you reread that uh he's basically saying that i i honestly i don't know some some say don't cover anything some say don't cover your neighbor's wife and things oh okay so so here's there are a number of differences right so for example, for example, and I have this pulled up here, but you shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down before them or worship them, for I am the Lord your God. I am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sins of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of love for those who love me and keep my commandments okay so yeah that's that's compressed into you shall not make graven images the way protestants number the ten commandments as catholics we lump uh taking other gods before him as uh something that also prohibits making graven images and then worshiping them so there are there are different ways that these things are numbered uh but and so but that's not something that people don't acknowledge like
Starting point is 01:50:08 that's not a secret i guess is my point we should we should do an episode of the culture war with you and ian because you guys were supposed to do that long form conversation that never happened so we should we should we should get together on that one all right noah sanders says where is the timcast fact-checking non-profit company we are all still waiting to have fact checkers we can trust keep it the great and hard work um in the process of filing. So I think it takes like years. Yeah. The problem is typically like a nonprofit will start in a state, get their federal number and then file in the state to do everything. These systems were created back before the internet. So typically if you start a nonprofit, it was just in one state and you filed and then you'd operate. Now we have to file in every single state because our audience exists
Starting point is 01:50:48 all over the country, which brings up another issue. A lot of people are asking, you know, their members and they were asked to update their address or information. It's because we have reached a threshold now where we have members in every different state and territory. So we have to collect that information for tax purposes. It's a legal requirement. And then we have to pay those taxes. So that's, that's reality. As for the fact checking nonprofit, we've got some prominent individuals who have said they're committed on donating to, to help fund this operation. We're really excited for it. We probably need to figure it out. The challenge for us is managerial because of how many different states and how many different regulations there are. but i think we might be able to hire somebody
Starting point is 01:51:28 and then get some uh revenue from a single state where we filed so far and then use that to kickstart the process so it just it is what it is we're working on it you know ben keith says the judge for tomorrow's carrie lake trial gut gutted Carrie's case in a ruling today. Now Carrie's lawyer cannot question if the signature verification process was fraudulent only if a check took place for questionable ballots. So I think based on what I read, Carrie Lake still has a decent case. If she can show that signatures don't match, you can make the argument that the process did not take place, right? So Katie Hobbs, I went over this. This is really funny. So Katie Hobbs has a guide as Secretary of State, this is from 2020, on how to verify signatures and what makes something questionable. I pulled up the New York Times where it's like, here's 11 signatures, which ones match?
Starting point is 01:52:19 And then based on Katie Hobbs signature verification guidelines, I successfully chose the two signatures that matched out of 11. I was actually surprised I was able to pull that off. I thought I was going to get it wrong, but I got it right. Based on that information, if Carrie Lake says here are here's a handful of ballots that do not adhere to Katie Hobbs is guidelines. She could argue this shows they did not signature verify. You can make they might argue, no, it just means the verification was poorly done.
Starting point is 01:52:48 I think, well, hold on. If the guideline says, if it does this, this or this, it's not verified. And these two, these things don't adhere to the guideline. You can argue they didn't verify it. Not that it was poorly done. They just didn't even do it. I think that's what she's gonna have to argue.
Starting point is 01:53:02 But I've not seen the evidence. We've got to see her present the evidence. We'll see. She posted photos of 2020 ballots 2020 ballots right let's see what they got let's grab some more super chats the tj drummer says bud light launching this campaign so close to memorial day two rolling a huge one guys oof you know kevin cos uh cosnahan says heineken's cheers to all the fans commercial seems to have taken shots at bud light at the end of the commercial oh i haven't seen that one i gotta check that one out let's uh let me write that one down heineken commercial i'll check that one out when we uh when we wrap what do we got llama says hey tim for those of us who don't drink coffee maybe
Starting point is 01:53:44 you could start a line of teas a fun roberto and style inspired line of teas maybe something like cock teas it's very very clever uh we are currently working on forecast.com supplements but like protein powder and mct so probably we're never going to do any kind of vitamins or weird brain blast stuff i don't i'm not into that stuff but what I am into when exercising is like a protein powder and MCT powder. We're big fans of that stuff. So we were thinking of creating our own blends and launching our own. We're, we're looking at what we can, what we can do in terms of proprietary blends and mixes and the regulations and all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:54:18 But we think we might actually be able to launch that very, very soon. Very excited for that. And then for Roberto inspired lines of teas, we're talking about Roberto Jr. Now, as for Roberto, the original king, maybe we'll make a medium roast called Return of the King Roberto. I like that. Yeah, Return of the King. But also, Roberto Jr. is getting close to retirement. That's right.
Starting point is 01:54:41 Who's his successor? I don't know. We don't know yet. Do they have to audition? What's the, the like how does this work out no clue but uh we don't want roberto jr knocking so we're incubating a whole bunch of roberto jr babies right now i think like 30 something he's a rooster and so we're gonna have i was gonna say who is this yeah we're gonna have a whole bunch of uh you don't know who rober No, I know. I'm exposing myself. Oh my gosh. Someone's not from our world.
Starting point is 01:55:08 Who vets these people? FBI. After he has the babies, we don't want just like with Roberto, where Roberto banged his daughter because chickens do this. Okay, I'm glad you established that we're talking about chickens because if I thought we were talking about humans and you said that, I would have been concerned. He's a complicated character.osters do this chicken chickens do this
Starting point is 01:55:28 um you can only do it so much and so we remove roberto and bring in his son which still does have roberto genetics in there which is kind of needs to start a farm i don't know if we have the space in dc but i'm very impressed are you jealous of the chicken empire i i really am i we don't have anything to show. We're going to have like 70 chickens. Oh, and also, they had babies. The Silkies had four babies and the Cochin had two.
Starting point is 01:55:54 They've just decided to take it upon themselves to make more of themselves. And they decided... They are reclaiming the family. They're making... It is horrifyingly...ly dude it's literally a chicken i gotta tell you it is horrifyingly magical to see the chicken with like the little chickens underneath it and then you open the thing and it looks at you and it goes like
Starting point is 01:56:17 like if you come near my babies it's a chicken insurrection but you can lift up the mom and she looks around and you can see the little babies going like, and then she tries to keep them warm and stuff. It's very cute. And when it's raining, the mom will cover the babies to keep them dry. There's nothing cute like that at War Room. It's great when they have their own babies
Starting point is 01:56:37 because they'll protect them. Whereas if you incubate them, you have to protect them because chickens don't care. They're like, I am my baby. We'll grab one more super chat here. What do we got? And the old super chat has YouTube. YouTube's breaking down.
Starting point is 01:56:53 We finally broke YouTube. Hooray. Clayton Webb says, ordered coffee on April 22nd. Haven't shipped. Any ideas when to expect? It should be soon. So we sold way too much, way too quickly, and it overloaded. So I apologize. Nice humble brag, Tim. If it hasn't come out, we didn we, we sold way too much, way too quickly and it overloaded. So I apologize.
Starting point is 01:57:06 Nice humble brag, Tim. If it hasn't, if it hasn't, hasn't come yet, we didn't expect it. I mean, we, I think we had, uh, several thousand of each available and then it all just sold basically instantly. And we're like, oh man, and we had to like rush and try and sell more. And then I had to put in a bunch of personal money to try and cover the costs. So, so it is making money, but it's, it's selling too quickly, so we can't keep up with orders. We're hoping to get to that point of equilibrium, and then it'll stabilize.
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