Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #783 DeSantis BANS Child Sex Changes, Disney DUMPS State Sparking OUTRAGE w/Kingsley Cortes

Episode Date: May 20, 2023

Tim, Phil, Brett, and Serge join Kingsley Cortes to discuss DeSantis formal ban on child sex change surgery, schoolteacher grooming students with LGBTQ books, Comrie lawyer filing lawsuit for defamati...on, female cyclists refusing to stand on podium with male who won race, and Oregon high school boys destroying female hygiene products in boy's bathroom. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 One of the biggest stories from this week, just the other day, Ron DeSantis signed two bills expanding the what the media likes to call the don't say gay bill, which is the actually the parental rights and education bill. And he also banned what the left refers to as gender affirming surgeries for minors or to be factual. I know I know a lot of people get offended by facts. They really do. They're very mad at me about it. Child sex change interventions, surgery and medication, those are banned in Florida. And in response, we're seeing a whole bunch of lefties freaking outers, their kids who are like nine to 12 years old on, let's just say, adult activities and how to secretly meet up with adults for
Starting point is 00:00:50 adult activities. And of course, NBC News is lying about this, trying to, for some reason, cover it up. So we'll talk about that. Plus, we got that that woman, the nurse, they called her a Karen, said she was trying to steal a bike from some young black man. But then it was proven that she was actually being robbed by them. Her lawyer is saying they plan to sue the media for defamation. So we'll talk about that and a bunch of other stories. Before we get started, my friends, head over to castbrew.com. Pick up some Cast Brew
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Starting point is 00:01:57 to see it because i kind of just went off on this on this rant about uh the the current drama surrounding me one of our guests canceled on us for the culture war podcast so that wasn't live and it was because i made fact statements seriously i wasn't insulting anybody i said like hey here's a statement about a thing and they're like how dare you and then they cancel on us not surprised not surprised so we'll talk about that and how much more smash the like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends joining us today to talk about this and a whole lot more is kingsley cortez. Hey, guys, thanks for having me. My name is Kingsley Cortez. I'm a Trump campaign alum. I currently do digital media at the Center for Renewing America in Washington, D.C.,
Starting point is 00:02:33 and I'm also national committee woman for the D.C. Young Republicans. So please follow me at Kingsley Cortez on all the platforms. I'm on, you know, Getter, Truth, Twitter, the whole shebang. Right on. Thanks for hanging out we got phil labonte hello everyone i am phil labonte the lead singer for all that remains anti-communist and counter-revolutionary here with hello guys i am brett dasik i am the host of pop culture crisis right here on youtube.com we had a great episode go up today with gothic so after this episode tonight you should go and check that one out because it was a lot of fun and i am serge.com filling in for kellen pdl he is off chasing rainbows or something i don't know what he's doing but uh it'll be a good show so let's get started all right let's jump into this first story the outrage following ron desantis's ban on sex change surgery for kids
Starting point is 00:03:22 ap news reports parents of transgender kids seek to block desantis ban on gender affirming care for minors the first thing i want to say about this is it's always language they never tell you the truth this is what got me and got me in trouble apparently with one of our guests who was going to come on the culture war podcast and then did not is that i'm not here to play games for the left or the right but that means you're basically going to come on the Culture War podcast and then did not, is that I'm not here to play games for the left or the right. But that means you're basically going to be aligned with the right. What I mean by that is we've got an editorial team over at TimCast.com. We write news.
Starting point is 00:03:54 And one of the articles we were writing, something came up having to do with pro-choice and pro-life. And I was reading this and I got kind of frustrated because there was some quote from some activist. And I said, I'm confused as to what they're trying to say. So I said, I don't think we should say pro-choice or pro-life. Those are political terms. If they're protesting to ban abortion, we should say protesting in opposition to abortion or protesting in support of abortion.
Starting point is 00:04:17 So we can just say anti or pro-abortion. And everybody agreed like that. That's a fair point. Remove the political terminology from it. Be direct. That triggers the left. They get very, very angry. So in this instance, you can see right there in the headline, gender affirming care for minors. That is a leftist term. That is an ideological term to support their idea. Why is the AP doing that? So somebody at the AP said in our style guide, we are going to just use the language of left wing activists.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Here's what we say. The right would call it mutilation. I don't call it that. And many conservatives are like, no, that's what I'm saying. It is a child sex change surgery and medical intervention. That's just a fact statement that pisses the left off to no end. If you don't use their language, you're like, that's it. They come after you. Whereas the right will just go okay i guess the left is a the left has a very significant
Starting point is 00:05:11 authoritarian streak in them right now in the u.s and in the west you have to think like they think if you talk like that's where the whole gender uh you know, using someone's pronouns comes from. Like you have to think of a trans woman as a woman. Trans women are women. Not trans women are trans women. They make a demand on your cognitive liberty. This is as authoritarian as it gets. They're demanding that you think like them.
Starting point is 00:05:41 And it bothers me that liberals, actual liberals in the U.S. are bad liberals and they don't see that this is authoritarian. So we got this tweet from Chris Hayes. I love this one. He says, the law DeSantis signed in Florida
Starting point is 00:05:53 banning care for trans kids is despicable and a frontal assault on the vaunted parental rights he and his ideological cohort have been screaming about for years. In Florida, you no longer get to make
Starting point is 00:06:04 healthcare decisions for your own child. Ron santos makes them it doesn't matter what you think is best for your kids ron tells you this is the weirdest thing but i i feel like as long as you read the stories you can see through the thin veneer the lies what is he talking about you can't make health care decisions for your kids no there's there's a medical, the chief medical officer or whatever they have for the surgeon general in Florida who makes these medical decisions on what doctors, you know, basically overseeing how the health system is working. You've got the law, the legislature. Ron DeSantis signed what the state legislature presented to him. They are they're playing a political game, probably because 2024. But it's all just so crazy how they lie about all this stuff. There is no contradiction in saying a parent has a right to decide what a child learns.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And a parent does not have a right to determine if their child should be sterilized or not. Like at a certain point, the state intervenes to protect children. Under Chris Hayes' argument, he thinks you should be allowed to mercilessly beat your own children. Let's show you what you think is best for them, right? He's pro-snake handling. Like, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:07:17 The state should not step in and prevent snake handling. You're chopping off the genitals of children if children are gender dysphoric you wait until after puberty because gender dysphoria tends to go away the idea that chris hayes is saying is that pete like the state should not step in and say you can't starve your you can't starve your children the state should not step in and say you must provide medical care to your children like he's stepping in and saying that it's okay for for the state to or for parents to literally cut their children allow their children to cut
Starting point is 00:07:57 their bodies up everyone knows that tattoo like forever tattoos have been off limits for anyone under 18 and there was never a stink about it and now because it's not go ahead and finish just the l the lgbt lobby and the ideology that comes along with with trans with the lgbt uh perspective now it's like it's all about trying to to shove the the idea down people's throats i was gonna say it's not just surgery it's the medication too it's the it's the chemical uh puberty blockers and uh and and cross-ex hormones which also cause sterilization to the point where uh even these high-profile websites that are advising on what they call gender-affirming care say you have to preserve your reproductive material as these these treat these treatments they call it will tend to remove your ability to reproduce. I think, too, just people like Chris Hayes, they aren't used to seeing Republicans wield power and
Starting point is 00:08:49 fight back, especially on cultural issues. Because, I mean, the GOP in my lifetime has delivered tax cuts and endless wars, and that's about it. So I think for the first time to see conservatives wading into the cultural issues and pushing back and fighting this totally nuts stuff is really important. And I think it's, it shocks the left because they're not used to it, but we need to do more of it because if you don't have a culture, you don't have a country. It's because when they say boo, when they call you racist or sexist or homophobic, then they get everyone on the right to immediately cave to whatever demands they have, because they understand that they do wield the power of most of the journalists and all of that complex in this country.
Starting point is 00:09:29 So if you have the power of 10,000 journalists who can use a bunch of buzzwords and names to call you, you wield a lot of power to stop people from proposing bills that they want to propose, from speaking out on social media in the ways they want to. And the media does the same thing when they use these terms like gender affirming care, which are to the uninitiated will read it and aren't going to look into it any further. And all they're going to get from that is evil right wing guy does evil right wing thing because they're bad. And I think for the average person who doesn't read the whole article, who only reads paragraph
Starting point is 00:10:03 one, who doesn't look into what the actual meaning of these terms are, that wields a lot of power because people don't look any deeper. I'm torn. You know, I am. On the one hand, I'm concerned about these children and whether or not these treatments actually are the right thing to do because the science shows desistance rates are very, very high. We went over this with Lance from the surfs around uh reaching up to 98 or something like that so most kids go through puberty and then they just stop experiencing this and we've already seen in europe they've been abandoning these procedures on the other hand i think if chris hayes wants to sterilize his children we shouldn't stop him and i'm and and you know it's funny i'm half kidding that the issue
Starting point is 00:10:44 here is i'm not a conservative chris hayes comes out and says his children he we shouldn't stop him. And I'm and you know, it's funny, I'm half kidding that the issue here is I'm not a conservative. Chris Hayes comes out and says, his children, he has the right to bring them to a doctor and remove their ability to reproduce. And I'm kind of like, well, I suppose the challenge is, do these children have rights to not have their lives irreparably harmed by the actions of their parents? Yes, of course. Just because a doctor tells you to do it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do but these people are voting to to terminate the lives of their children and take away their and their children's ability to reproduce and i'm kind of like we're we're not in a position to assert uh absolute authority over them to stop them from doing it there has to be a vote on it in florida the vote has been you can't do it chris is losing his mind but if this guy then moves to a state that allows it like california it's like okay well you know the worst
Starting point is 00:11:29 case scenario in the end of all this is the future is conservative conservatives have a bunch of kids liberals sterilize their kids the the it it just seems like it doesn't matter in the grand scale it matters to the individual it matters to the rights it matters what we think people should be allowed to do to kids because those kids are going to grow up they're going to be very angry we've already seen it many detransitioners but then i'm thinking about holistically the whole the whole world and where we're going this is a small blip in the history that i'd say that i think will cease to exist relatively shortly i mean i definitely agree with you that they're almost you know self-selecting out of reproducing and that's you
Starting point is 00:12:05 know yeah and for us on the right i mean that means more votes for us right but also does it mean more violence for us you look at people like the nashville shooter or the individual who killed that woman in arizona so there is you know i think having mentally ill people running around your society is not conducive to a society that is safe and allows for you know community flourishing this is this is the big challenge across the board though like we see in san francisco we want to help people who are suffering we like this is this is this is one of the challenges humans face balancing helping people with making sure that the crazy people who are unwell aren't dragging the whole system down you know they say when you're sitting on a plane you got to put the
Starting point is 00:12:44 mask on the person you got to put your own mask you got to put the mask on the person. You got to put your own mask on before putting on the mask of the person next to you. So how can we as United States keep doing the opposite? Sacrificing our cities and our economies for people who are not contributing. It's just breaking the system. Then eventually we're going to be left with empty cities and barren streets and no farms and no food.
Starting point is 00:13:02 And people are going to wonder how it happened. The, there's, i know it's it's just so tiring to hear people like you said lie like hearing chris hayes portraying things the way that he does it's just it's exhausting and and extremely frustrating because there's there's people that have lives and they go about their day and they don't have the time to shove their face in Twitter or read a bunch of queer theory books. And that's one of the things that the left really relies on is people living their lives and going about their day and not knowing what they're talking about. We talk on this show all the time
Starting point is 00:13:42 about the fact that the left has one dictionary or that we use the the same uh same lexicon but a different dictionary the meanings of words change and stuff that's intentional your average person doesn't know that your average person doesn't understand that so when the left starts throwing around jargon at them they feel like they're like i don't know what any of this means like i just stop you know whatever you say and it's such a manipulative it's so manipulative and it's frustrating to see so many people constantly battering you with a message and that that is is completely fabricated i was talking to someone recently when we were discussing the idea that when you watch the news depending on where you get your news from you're living in a completely different reality from the person next to you if they get their news from a
Starting point is 00:14:27 different source. And the language does a lot of that in the same way. You could be having a conversation. You might both know the word, but you have your own definitions for what that word means. So you end up with a completely different conversation and you never actually get to any type of understanding because you can't get past the dialogue that's spoken. And I think that's also a problem when we talk about, you were talking about whether you think that this is a self-correcting problem. That's why they're so good at organizing and why they're so
Starting point is 00:14:54 good at recruiting because recruiting is how they grow. Because if they're not having families, if they're not expanding through their own gene pool, they have to organize through community leadership. They have to organize through propaganda in the media. And they do that very, very well. And I think in social media, TikTok, that is how they influence the next generation of people. I don't think it will be as easy as just something that cancels itself out in a generation or two, because a lot of these people, conservatives included, there was a thing on Mother's Day where it said, it was a happy Mother's Day post. And it was a bunch of iPads because kids are looking at, their parents are putting a tablet in front of them. They're not watching what they're looking at in the media.
Starting point is 00:15:33 And that's right. The kids younger and younger are being influenced on websites that are not protecting them. Yeah. What kid under the age of 13 wouldn't know to hit the I, yes, I am 13 button on Tik TOK, right? So the kids, I don't think it's ever going to be as simple as just, it's going to be drowned out by the fact that they're not reproducing.
Starting point is 00:15:53 It's something that you have to culturally change, whether that's through, you know, putting out your own media, that will be an alternative source to them or the type of thing where they need to do better about making sure their kids aren't taking in a bunch of stuff that they don't know. But then what do you do from there? Then you go to the school system. The school system pushes on it too. They really have surrounded the culture in every way. And to me, it sounds blackmailed. It's like, it's, I don't think it's that simple.
Starting point is 00:16:19 I'm not suggesting that we just sit back and do nothing. And then by having kids, no, I'm saying it's all, it's all interconnected. The less they have kids and the more the right says we're not bringing our kids to your schools you will get a natural tendencies towards a culture being developed by the right which we're seeing across the board with comic books and and and cartoons as well as parallel economies jeremy's chocolate and razors we got casper coffee uh jeremy has uh jeremy from the quartering has coffee brand coffee a bunch of companies popping up competing with the establishment that is falling apart i look at all of these in the big picture and i'm just like over a long enough period of time the future seems obvious right i just i just feel like for me at this at this point i'm like i'm gonna invest in one of these companies because it seems inevitable.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Sure, there's a bunch of variables. Who knows what will change? But I don't see how you reverse course and salvage the left. You've got decaying media organizations. They're going out of business. CNN's ratings have dropped below Newsmax. BuzzFeed News is gone. Vice is in bankruptcy.
Starting point is 00:17:24 All of these companies, they're losing clicks. They're losing followers. They're freaking out. They're fleeing Twitter. Their influence is crumbling. Then, they're sterilizing and aborting their own children. Conservatives are pulling their kids out of these schools. Their influence is going to be gone in 10 years. Then you
Starting point is 00:17:40 add on to the fact they're not having kids. Give it 20 or 30 years, and you're going to have two new generations entering the cultural space who have not been influenced by their by their media because their media is ceasing to exist disney just announced they're going to be moving a whole bunch of their products over was it from uh from hulu to disney plus yeah they're going to bundle everything so that you can get everything in one place but that means they're they're also locking things up they also got rid of a bunch of the like Willow and the really bad stuff that came out. They took like 50 or 60 things off Disney Plus because it's really just taking up server space and nobody's watching any of it.
Starting point is 00:18:11 So but I just think all of those things together predict a conservative future. I mean, it's it makes sense that, you know, the theory that you have. I'm not so sure. Not so confident. I think that the the left's very is has a subversive uh agenda and i and i think that that it's more than just trying to get people to you know or just the the people not having kids i do think that the left is going to come after the existing yeah but but they can try but they're but they're they're diminishing i think
Starting point is 00:18:42 though they own all the institutions, right? Like if you're one of these parents who's pissed off that, you know, gay porn is in your kid's library, you protest that at a school board meeting, you're going to be put on a no-fly list. Like the FBI is going to knock on your door. So I think that the fear tactics still exist because the left controls almost every institution in this country and combating that, getting people to be willing to combat that, to put their livelihoods on the line is a hard thing to do. I think Sticks Hexenhammer like two years ago said, you're better off, you know, organizing in the local departments, run for your local school boards, run for local government.
Starting point is 00:19:17 You'll make more of a difference there than worrying about the presidential race, which is in a lot of ways for most people, it's a spectator sport. Like, do they see how much of those decisions do they see on the daily we see it now with inflation and things like that but in general you're going to get a lot more mileage and you're going to get a lot more out of working at your local level yeah i think the local stuff is is extremely important to people because you can have a whole lot more, you know, effect on your local politics. You know, if you can, if you might bump into,
Starting point is 00:19:49 you know, your selectmen, and obviously if you're in like New York City or if you're in one of the major cities, it's going to be significantly less likely that you'll bump into like your, I don't know, whatever, they have aldermens or whatever. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:00 But if you're in a smaller town. Chicago has aldermens, right? Yeah. So, you know, it's probably not very likely that you will, but you'll run into other people that are
Starting point is 00:20:10 in your community if you're active in your community. And that's the way to have the most influence on your community is, you know, school boards
Starting point is 00:20:17 or, you know, any kind of civic stuff that's going on that needs to be taken care of. That's why they got rid of civics from school programs a long time ago. was that was very much planned i agree with you i think so but you know i the the legal and local method is is i think the actual way to to to go so let's uh let's jump to the story and uh make everybody angry you may have seen
Starting point is 00:20:43 the story but we're gonna we're gonna bring it up here for this friday show this is from today.com she offered a lgbtq minus themed book to her children you normally put the plus but there's like a dash there so i had to say minus anyway they say she offered an lgbtq themed book to her middle schoolers parents filed a police report danielle compo more she writes this story saying she'd been at Illinois' middle school teacher for 20 years. So middle school is, what is that, 8 to 12, 8 to 13? Middle school is 8 to 12, yeah. The book in question is a book called This Book is Gay. The article from today doesn't tell you what she actually did.
Starting point is 00:21:21 I am going to keep the language family friendly for all of you because you may have children listening this teacher provided instruction to children children ages presumably middle schoolers so we're 8 to 13 on how to meet adult men for gay sex she provided them instruction on how to consume the bodily materials of other adult men yes that language again that they're not trying they win this is the language because by i'm trying to be i think i told them exactly what it was i'm being academic no i'm saying this is why the article wins because the average person reads it doesn't know that that's what that exactly it's an lgbtq themed book exactly it's like that meme says like no matter how much you hate journalists you don't hate them enough like this this is the that that's well hold on
Starting point is 00:22:10 that's what they were saying about the other i have a question i have a question danielle compo more wrote this why did she not include that this teacher was providing this degree of instruction to children because they're trying to hide it from parents. But why would you want to hide it from parents? Why does Danielle Campo Amor, this writer for today, not want parents to know that this teacher was instructing their children on how to arrange anonymous adult activities
Starting point is 00:22:43 with adults, sexual activities why why is she trying to obfuscate this i think because you know depravity and perversion seeks more of that more of the same thing you're getting warmer but what does that what does that mean you're saying that danielle compo more is depraved and perverted i mean clearly yeah to lead to leave out this stuff is it possible then that maybe danielle compomore shares certain predilections for children that this teacher might is she also gay well i don't know about that that that's not material i mean that's how she'd write it i suppose right but we're talking about a middle-aged teacher giving a book to children that explains
Starting point is 00:23:22 them how to eat male fluids or i shouldn't say i'll be very careful provides instruction on the process of because it does i want to be i'm being fair it does tell them not to do it yes it says it says it's not safe but it does include definitional breakdown of how it occurs and also what it means to consume feces. These things are being provided to children, but more importantly, it explains to them in detail how to use applications to upload their images as children. This is illegal. It's instructing them on making images of themselves to share with adults for anonymous
Starting point is 00:24:02 encounters. of themselves to share with adults for anonymous encounters i can only assume i think it's the only fair assessment is possibly why someone working for a media organization would obfuscate this they too are attracted to children because anybody who any any any sane adult who doesn't want children being harmed this way is not going to cover up for another pedophile well if they're ideologically possessed they would yeah i mean i i don't i mean i don't know you're saying that perhaps danielle campo more is not a pedophile herself but that she wants to protect pedophiles yes 100 i am absolutely saying that with full throated i am saying that actually i i would agree with that because maybe it's it's
Starting point is 00:24:41 viewed as like you had that big movement i can't say big movement you had that that movement among pedophiles lgbtp where they're trying to get their get the p added to their absolutely it didn't work but it would make sense with that ted talk where that woman tried saying it's like she tried claiming it was normal you have journalists who are like yes i agree with you i will protect you People that are familiar with queer theory. I think Gail Rubin is one of the original writers for queer theory. Mario Melelli was an Italian guy that was writing queer theory. Foucault, who's a postmodern leftist. All of these people that dip into queer theory
Starting point is 00:25:24 have all in some way defended pedophilia the uh gail rubin calls it um called it intergenerational and these are all things that if you want to go and read the text in queer theory this is the cutting edge in sociology departments i just got into an argument today with a friend of mine not argument but we were going back and forth on twitter and he's like this you know this stuff isn't happening blah blah blah and i'm like go look because i am not the one that's asserting these things all i'm doing is relaying the information that are in books in sociology departments in queer theory in lgbt studies in probably in women's studies.
Starting point is 00:26:05 These are the ideas that are in the sociology departments. I don't like them. I don't want them to be there. I didn't put them there. But don't get mad at me because I know they're there. When they say that it's not being taught, that nobody's talking about it, that it's not real. There was an episode of The Good Doctor in 2018 where they talk about a person who has a desire for interactions with children.
Starting point is 00:26:28 And in the episode, they treat it with empathy because he has not acted on it. And that's, just to say, 2018, we're talking a very long time ago in that when you really think about how long that's been mainstream. So it's not new in any way, shape, or form. And they've tried to change the language on this too, right? They're calling pedophiles, there's a push to call them minor attractive persons. Yeah, exactly. So I think this proves that the slippery slope is in fact very slippery. I think a lot of us, especially me, I was a little bit more libertarian in my college days. I kind of laughed when Christian conservatives said, pushing for gay marriage is going to open the floodgates and it really has i mean look at what we're
Starting point is 00:27:09 dealing with today in just a short amount of time or the stories of people who get to a guy gets to go to a woman's prison because uh because he identifies a different way it really is when you allow that much subjectivity to the real world bad things can happen i love the uh why do you care so much they constantly say it and it's like seamus likes to bring that up and then there was a i so what happened with the show we're supposed to do this morning is that i made a comment that was a very dry statement in my opinion about um the normalization of transgender individuals and it was uh kim petras on the cover of sports illustrated swimsuit now kim is biologically male has undergone many surgeries and the the image
Starting point is 00:27:53 had kim halfway underwater so you could only see half of the chest and up and in response to my tweet someone said something like if if it wasn't for grifters like tim you wouldn't even know that these people existed and my response was except for when they're on the cover of sports illustrated magazine and had like won a grammy this year and right it was singing with um sam smith it's like no i'm like i would love to talk about the middle east right now did you guys see asad he met with saudi arabia hey how about this saudi the civil war is basically over asad won and him teaming up with saudi having this meeting implies the petrodollars on the way out how about we talk about things like that instead no but our culture is dominated by people who are gutting it from the ground up
Starting point is 00:28:35 so i certainly want to talk about it sports illustrated is actually interesting because it is like the hierarchy of what is acceptable in our society right now there was four covers there was the Kim Petras. You have a trans individual. You have Martha Stewart. So you got an 81 year old lady. Then you have Megan Fox. Her whole thing was talking about body dysmorphia.
Starting point is 00:28:54 And then there was just another lady named like Brooke Nader, Brooks Nader, who I wonder if she's related to Ralph Nader because that would be very cool if that was true. But hers was just, I won a beauty contest. And I was like, why can't we talk about that? This lady like beat out 10,000 other people to get this job because that doesn't sell anymore because there is no ESG funding in that story. There is no ideological way to virtue signal to people that you want to build your base. They're always looking to build this phantom audience. The people who are buying Sports Illustrated swimsuit editions don't care about Kim Petras,
Starting point is 00:29:26 at least not if they're paying attention, and definitely don't care about seeing Martha Stewart on the cover. But that's the hierarchy now. You have to be some type of oppressed group. You have to fit into an affinity group someplace for it to be relevant in the culture, the culture that they're pushing on us. Do people still read these things?
Starting point is 00:29:43 I mean, I was trying to explain that. I was like, you will not understand how important this was as a symbol in the 90s maybe not so much anymore can you get a tablet edition of it i have no idea like i when you go to like a walgreens or a walmart or something you see the magazine section you'll notice when you're checking out at walmart the magazines don't have names anymore it's a thing so like i see a magazine and it just said it said captain america all really big on it and i'm like what magazine is this and then really really tiny it's time magazine because it doesn't matter anymore they know nobody's buying their magazine what they do know is or maybe maybe not time but like the logo is really small people will see oh
Starting point is 00:30:21 i like captain america i will buy a captain america thing and then they're buying the magazine because people aren't reading them anymore no i mean and there there is a certain homogeneity of the message like you you get gq with you know trans men on it and uh you know what is health with you know fat ladies on it and it's just yeah it's just the total homogenization of the of the message it doesn't matter if you're picking up Rolling Stone or if you're picking up GQ or if you're picking up, you know, women's health or whatever, you're getting the same message. It is absolutely the same message. I just, going back to whether or not this, these people can, the left can survive in
Starting point is 00:31:02 the future. I just, I just don't see it. I just, I can't see this stuff making its way into the future because for one, like I mentioned, it's self-destructive, but people are not, like people,
Starting point is 00:31:14 so I'll put it this way. I made the joke on Twitter based off of John Dye's joke. I said, start complimenting liberal women by saying they look like Dylan Mulvaney or Lizzo. Everybody immediately understands what the joke is. Whileing liberal women by saying they look like they look like dylan mulvaney or lizzo everybody immediately understands what the what the what the joke is while these liberal women
Starting point is 00:31:29 will say dylan mulvaney is beautiful or lizzo is beautiful if you say you look just like them they will get angry because inside they know they're lying they don't find these people attractive that's the kind of thing that says to me this cannot survive this cannot persist the the culture they have of lying about how they really feel about things everyone on the surface might lie but then they won't actually act upon those things those things will not exist yeah they can go on and and and and on top of that too if you if they keep coming out and saying people like lizzo are beautiful like this is going to lead to a high mortality rate for a lot of people. Once again, it is resulting in
Starting point is 00:32:08 the loss of life on the left. The right is more likely to be like, cut out the sugar, stop eating seed oils. How many people, how many times have you heard in the past week, stop eating seed oils? Come on. The right won't shut up about it. That and the microplastics. But see, the right,
Starting point is 00:32:23 whatever that is, is trying really hard to be healthy, to be responsible. I got glass bottle water here. We get it for all our guests. You do have plastic because we, you know, we're not that crazy. We just try to do better. But the long run, the trajectory just seems very simple. The left starts to disappear and the right expands. I get what you're saying, but historically when we've seen these kind of ideologies try to push for influence and stuff, there's mass death.
Starting point is 00:32:50 So you could be right. There could be a lot of people that end up dying, but that's also something that happens. Mass death in which direction? in if they get in control if they get into positions of power and actually can decide can make policy then you're going to end up seeing a massive push for for the reduction of carbon usage and the reduct and that means reduction of energy usage they don't want to use uh petrochemicals to to fertilize any plants and stuff so you're going to see famines you're going to see death of not just conservative or not just left but conservative why conservatives because they're well it would be a worldwide death because you you'll see like you'll see significant famine that would it's not gonna start with the u.s it'll be in places where that where there's already on the edge of famine american conservatives
Starting point is 00:33:40 will be the last to go sure sure sure sure, sure. And then what happens? 20 years later, conservative United States. I mean, maybe. So we can put it this way. Let's say there's two potential forks. The left sterilizing and aborting their kids. They're promoting unhealthy lifestyles and promoting sterilization of individuals. Over a long enough period of time, they just won't exist. Let me finish. That's one potential. sterilization of individuals over a long enough period of time they just won't exist well let me
Starting point is 00:34:05 finish that's one potential the other potential is they gain massive political power of the institutions take over and then start culling their opponents either way the great famine whatever ends up happening as we often see with big communist regimes the soviet union lasted about 69 years and then what happens it falls If it does, conservatives who tend to have their own sources of food to a to a greater degree than a garden at the very least not every single one will strive well i'm sorry will thrive but many of them will be okay plus all the preppers are right-leaning i i don't disagree with the ultimate result like i don't think that the the the left will ultimately win because i think that constantly it it eats itself and there's all kinds of problems in the ideology um it's i just don't think that it's going to be any kind of uh smooth sailing
Starting point is 00:35:11 to get who's that it was smooth sailing no i'm not i'm not saying that it could be the most catastrophic nightmare scenario we could imagine but the end result is the right wins i think likely because i think that uh i think that there's there that there's merit to your arguments about the way that people on the right live and the way that they organize their lives and stuff. I'm looking at it just like basic probabilities, right? You don't – you're betting on a horse race. When you bet on the long shot horse 40 to 1, you win around 40 to 1. Imagine if they were like the horse that got a 40 to one chance to win and will give you, you know, you bet a hundred bucks, we'll give you $10 if you win.
Starting point is 00:35:48 You'd be like, wow, I want to do that. All likely I'm going to lose. And even I went, I don't get anything. I'm looking at this right now. It's like the probability exists that sure, sure. When you're looking at any roll of the die, we'll do that. It's possible that snake eyes comes up. It happens all the time, but it's just one in 30 rolls for it to happen. So it's possible that snake eyes comes up it happens all the time but it's just one in 30 roles for it to happen so it's unlikely i think it is very unlikely in the long term the left succeeds they may have short-term victories they may get they have many institutions i believe right now but over over a long enough period of time it just fails because it's not physically possible even if we break it down to just simple economics,
Starting point is 00:36:25 centralized command economies cannot work. Right. Just unless there is some AI takeover. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's... Let's go with that. Is it also fair to point out that there's a difference between whether we're talking leftist tactics
Starting point is 00:36:40 and the average neoliberal who will definitely support a lot of these policies, but are raising kids that are still going to end up in government still are having traditional families. They're just not telling you that the things that we're talking about are a problem, right? They still support them. They just don't, it's NIMBYism. They just don't support it in their own backyard. They're, they're fine with that. Like those kids. Yeah. So the problem is that like, yeah, you could do in a lot of ways the the fringe
Starting point is 00:37:05 types are going to find themselves eliminated from the gene pool with their decisions but the nancy pelosi's and the the rest of the political the politicians are still having kids they're still expanding and creating their own political oligarchies in a lot of ways with their families i i don't see if necessarily it goes away that quickly i i think the establishment people just do whatever they think earns them power and if the left is removing themselves culturally and physically then you democrats will will gladly come out they will gladly come out in support for cutting taxes for the rich if the power structures support that idea it doesn't matter they they're they're vanilla yogurt you know i mean just like
Starting point is 00:37:46 whatever whatever's happening in the world they'll say like sure so i think it ultimately comes down to we have two big populist wave populist waves and one is like not like everybody on the right is healthy and fit but more likely to be meritocratic more likely to live in rural areas with better air with access to at least some ability to get their own food i mean look right right now outside i can see all the mulberries growing and we have those mock strawberries it's really funny have you seen the mock strawberries no i don't even know about these things i move out here there are these little tiny yellow flowers and they grow what looks like strawberries on them and uh you can eat them they're just flavorless they're like pretty bland and no one really cares for them but the chickens eat them they they gobble them up so i'm like i'm out here we got chickens we got eggs we got berries
Starting point is 00:38:29 we got the pawpaw fruits that are like crazy and we're not even trying to have that food you live in a city there's no food outside you go to a store you get your food or you don't out here we have choices on walking outside and finding things to eat if we so choose. Typically we go to the grocery store. But putting it at that, if society collapsed right now, we out here in the middle of nowhere would have little bits of food. In the city they would have none. That's enough. People out here are more likely to survive than people in cities. Not to mention all the pressures that come from population density in those places when
Starting point is 00:39:05 something bad happens. I am wrong. They actually have a lot more food in the cities than we do out here. Each other. For real though. There's no people out here. So it's like I got to eat a deer. We got a lot of deer though and turkeys. There's so many deer out here. Turkeys too. How's your car there, sir?
Starting point is 00:39:22 I still haven't gotten looked at but it's just annoying annoying There's too many They're everywhere You had a deer? Yeah, I had a deer going down the highway when it was foggy the other day When? Recently? Yeah, it was on, what, was it Monday, Tuesday? Whoa
Starting point is 00:39:35 It's just because it's foggy and there's literally so many of them There were like, I think, ten We gotta eat them, man Yeah, literally, I know You know, I'm trying to eat the chickens, but my brother doesn't want to eat any of them he's like no we can't i'm like come on talking about the the guys in the back of the well the roosters for sure i've been trying to make rooster stew for like a year but my brother's like we can't eat them man like the foxes are eating them like i think a couple of them died but they're mostly all okay we're king roberto is still all right
Starting point is 00:40:02 he's he's in retirement he's doing he's doing well but i'm ready we got too many we got babies now they had they make more of themselves and then we give them scraps we give them leftovers they eat bugs it's because they're not turning their kids into trans individuals they're actually having it they actually you know well actually we mostly bred out of the chickens the broodiness so yeah it's actually not super easy the silkies will have babies the fluffy chickens they they just they desperately want to have babies and then we have a coach in and she had two babies and so she stands there with little babies it's very cute you know and then one day we'll eat them yeah because it's food and i have no problems i don't care i'm like yes they're cute yes i love
Starting point is 00:40:39 my chickens and they're also my food chickens are it's really hard to love chickens they're so stupid that's why i love them well i mean like a dog i get it i get love in book because i get love in a cat chickens they're they're tough to love they're nah well seamus spent funny shame spent two hours on our podcast talking about how dogs don't have the capacity to love yeah he's wrong yeah he's totally wrong uh you see here's the the thing about Roberto Jr. He walks around minding his own business, and he's a stand-up guy. We had leftover sushi today, and we went out the sashimi, and when we would try and give some to him, he would make sure the girls got it instead.
Starting point is 00:41:15 He always just stands above it. He'll look down, and the girls will come and take it, and he'll just stand back up, and he keeps watch. What a gentleman. He is. He watches guard all day. He's less concerned with having food for himself. he just wants to make sure his girls are all right he's got a lot of girls there's no chicken saying where have all the good men gone no no
Starting point is 00:41:32 he's a he's a good dude and see that's the thing about chickens roosters will sacrifice themselves did you know this did not know that yeah that's right well i i am i am offended by people saying you know using the word chicken to imply cowardice because a rooster will charge to its death if it means buying time for the hens to escape to safety. Wow. That's braver than most humans. Now somebody gets attacked on a subway
Starting point is 00:41:55 and they just don't intervene. Exactly. Because the rooster won't get, the chicken won't get sued. So they don't want to get involved. This is why I want to donate to Daniel Penny because he exhibited the spirit of the noble rooster by defending the people you should tell him that somebody should be told i mean the roost like i i when i was reading about chickens i was
Starting point is 00:42:13 like wow no for real and then we had a hawk attack an eagle or i think a hawk i think we have eagles out here a hawk swooped in trying to get our chickens and then roberto his dad yelled runs to the door because we had a caged up thing and there's a door they can come to the garden it swoops into the garden he runs out and stands guard in front of it waiting for all the girls to go in and then goes in last i do these guys like these are stand-up dudes man they do let's let's let's jump to the story from the national review and stop talking about chickens this is from uh national review lawyer for pregnant nyc nurse involved in bike feud vows to sue media for defamation can i give you money sir i know they have a gofundme for her but i would provide some money for a lawsuit against the media for lying the lawyer representing a pregnant new york physician assistant who whose confrontation
Starting point is 00:43:00 with a group of black men over a rented bike led to her suspension from the hospital plans to sue media out institute that cast her as a racist thief sarah jane comrie got into an argument last week with a few young black men who claimed she was stealing a rental bike they paid for video went viral this we know she then released receipts nbc news reviewed them too so now they've been reviewed by everybody and they've all confirmed that yep that was her bike they even gone so far as to say, you can't rent the same bike out in rapid succession,
Starting point is 00:43:29 meaning the only way she had the receipt is if she was the one who was trying to get the bike in the first place. These dudes were trying to rob her and the media attacked her. Ben Crump, you got to sue. What's this guy's name?
Starting point is 00:43:41 What's his lawyer's name? Ben Crump? No, no, no. This lawyer for Sarah Comrie. Justin Marino, you got to sue Ben Crump? No, no, no. This lawyer for Sarah Comrie. Justin Marino. You got to sue Ben Crump. Yep. For defamation.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Yeah. You should. Yeah. So they say a few minor press outlets and the black men involved in the altercation claimed that Comrie was fake crying and stole the bike. Multiple major press outlets also reported the video suggested she stole the bike. Some online figures disparaged Comrie as a Karen. A popular slang term for a white woman
Starting point is 00:44:05 who feels entitled to special treatment we are going to get an answer when we start filing defamation lawsuits marina told fox news is bill hammer she's been called a racist a thief there are reasons defamation laws exist and we plan to pursue that well there was the a lot of the headlines on twitter it said appears to be stealing a bike it's like that word appears is literally prevent it's like the shield preventing you from your libel from your from your lawsuit right so like i said no matter how much you hate the journalists you don't hate them enough you really should hate them more you cannot you can't hate them enough they i love the michael malice uh quote about you know the job will be done when the average journalist is looked at like a tobacco
Starting point is 00:44:46 lobbyist. That's the respect they deserve. They're disgusting. They want the race war. It can't come soon enough. The thing is, I know, I talked about this on Twitter the other day. There was this
Starting point is 00:45:00 the NDAA of 2012, the Smith-Mutton Modernization Act of 2012, that allowed the federal government to propagandize people. That coincides with the singularity of everybody having a cell phone in their pocket and having the internet connected to them. The media jumped at the chance to feed the people the story that the government wanted. And I can't, like the reason that there's so many people that feel very homogenized one way is because the federal government has been shoving a narrative down our throats. And it is reflected in the way the population looks at other people. You look at the way the left looks at the right,
Starting point is 00:45:45 the whole like the, what was it? Not the disposables, the deplorables and all that stuff that goes along with it. They're just, oh, they're all racist. They're all this, they're all that. And it's a narrative that is shoved down everyone's throat. Like we were talking earlier, all the magazines are the same.
Starting point is 00:46:03 It doesn't matter if it's gq or if it's time or if it's rolling stone they're all shoving the same message down their throat teen vogue the federal government exactly yeah giving young women communism since like back for that for years exactly and the narrative that's coming out of the federal government is oh there's all these it's the white nationalism is the white nationalism is the biggest problem and your MAGA neighbor is probably a racist that hates you and et cetera, et cetera. All of that is a propagandic message that is coming straight out of the federal government directed at the left because that's the quote unquote nice opinion. And it's also the one that actually empowers the government. So, of course, the federal government is going to promote a narrative that promotes that says people should endorse what the federal government wants, you know, higher taxes and more power and authority to the federal government. So I think that the that has been a big part of the reason why everyone seem everyone on the left seems to have the same opinion and knows nothing about the right.
Starting point is 00:47:06 They don't know anything about independence. They only know what the left has been told to think, essentially. I think, too, no one wants to talk about it, especially on the right. But there is 100% a racial caste system that currently exists in this country. I mean, this woman was villainized. She was called a burglar, every name in the book, right? Because she's the caricature of a Karen, which is a slur for white women who dare to, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:32 complain about the degeneracy that they see in their communities. That just, you know, say, I don't want it to be this way. And I think they tried to Daniel Penny her. They really did. They tried to throw her under the bus. She was fired from her job or I think placed on leave from her job. And the media came after her. And you know who was in docks?
Starting point is 00:47:53 The people who attacked her. I mean, it's just totally backwards. The media is out there defending criminals, lawless gangs just that are running the streets. And I think our law enforcement, too, you're seeing selective enforcement here, right? You have people that are allowed to behave in a criminal manner, and then you have people who aren't. And often that is whether you are right or left leaning. What does it matter when the prosecutors, when the DAs won't prosecute anyways on a lot of these crimes? It doesn't matter. No, it's crazy. I mean, we used to arrest people for disturbing the peace and now if you walk no we did and now if you walk around dc yeah now if you walk around
Starting point is 00:48:29 dc there are homeless people screaming and harassing you at almost every corner that is interesting i was looking at these photos we were in atlantic city and they have these photos all on the wall at this one uh this we're at this place that had photos of all and you could see everybody wearing a suit like it's the boardwalk 1920 or whatever and all the men and women are dressed up and i was like they're wearing three-piece suits the women are all wearing this crazy outfit i'm like that's kind of crazy they would arrest you for disturbing the peace like very rigid way of living i'm not advocating for it, but I am saying we used to have a little bit more rules
Starting point is 00:49:07 and maybe we need a little bit more rules. It's a slippery slope. You stop wearing the three-piece suit out in public and all of a sudden there's just crime going on in the streets. You stop wearing the three-piece suit, next thing you know there's a dude taking a dump right there in the middle of the street. How they don't arrest these people. Because
Starting point is 00:49:23 they're mentally ill and they should be institutionalized. At least at this point, the state can't just pick them up. So, I mean, there probably should be some kind of law that... Even that I have a problem with because, look, the second you
Starting point is 00:49:39 throw somebody in the system, let's not pretend like any of these institutions, as soon as they get a hold of the system gets a hold of them it's very hard to extricate yourself from that environment because they're so corrupt so i'm this came up a lot when they were talking about britney spears because she's still acting absolutely ridiculous i'm like it's her right to do that she's not harming she's not harming anyone she's not making good decisions but it's her right as an american citizen to make those bad decisions for herself
Starting point is 00:50:05 but the people that are doing these things in the streets are doing things that are harming other people but i still would err on the side of caution of just throwing them in asylums given that i don't know if that's the answer yes but hear me out i have an idea what if in san francisco if you are caught taking a dump outside they put you on a boat and bring you to an island and then leave so an island maybe in the bay of san francisco i was just thinking them but i'm not saying any prosecution i'm saying if you are caught defecating in the streets they put you on the boat they bring you out they drop you off on the island you're free to go they have like no no there's no incarceration you're not locked up they're just we're gonna drop you off right here and that's it no more words i'm not here to insult
Starting point is 00:50:54 you we'll be on our way and if you build a boat and come back from the island that so be it otherwise you know you're not locking anybody up i mean you could you're not depriving them of anything if they don't if they don't live anywhere if they're if there's if they are if they are homeless with no jobs and they're taking dumps on the street why should in all seriousness the question is this why should we as citizens and taxpayers of a city tolerate people who aren't members of our community destroying our community right do we not have the right to be like we are going to place you outside you can always walk back in we're not like but if we catch you we're going to remove you again because i know people who've gotten
Starting point is 00:51:34 banned from cities i've heard this they're like you're not welcome here and things like that but we don't do it for people taking dumps in the street in san francisco yeah i assume they want that though like the government likes that it's happening they could arrest them though and prosecute them but they though and prosecute them, but they won't prosecute them. And that's the big problem here, right? What are they doing with Epstein's Island? They could use that one.
Starting point is 00:51:50 There's Alcatraz is in San Francisco. Alcatraz, just right out there. It's all right. There's buildings. Just don't lock them up, but there's already buildings. They can go inside. They get shelter from the rain.
Starting point is 00:52:01 But if we give them like a big enough island with like food and animals and stuff, it's like you have every chance to survive in in this and it's a mini exile it's like mini it's like you can always come back just swim i don't know whatever it's up to you we're not we're not telling you what you can or can't do we're just leaving you here the island to catalina off of uh there's a fantastic reality show pitch in there somewhere i think we placed a hundred homeless men on an island. Look, if Milk Manor is a thing, then they could absolutely do this. For the number of homeless people that are in, I mean, just the greater San Francisco area,
Starting point is 00:52:34 you'd need an island the size of like Oahu. Like it would have to be like a sizable island. The question is, is it possible that what these people might need is actual hardship? I mean, probably. is is it possible that what these people might need is actual hardship i mean probably they are these are people who are in places where they have makeshift shelters free everything they get money from the state they get they get money and if they don't people are giving them food they're getting food somewhere somehow so there's no requirements yeah this isn't it's an it's enabling it's not helping them what if the one thing these people need is just to be in open land and say, figure it out. And then all of a sudden they're like,
Starting point is 00:53:09 hey, I'm not getting food anymore, I better find food. And then it starts giving them responsibility and helping them, you know, survive. I'm not so confident that would work, but I do think there is value to the idea that human beings are anti-fragile. So we respond well to adversity like literally our bodies need gravity to have for our bones to have the integrity to
Starting point is 00:53:35 to hold our body together so like we need to go and exercise to keep our bodies in shape and we need to have that resistance we need to strive for things to feel like we are accomplished in things that's something that's important for human beings so i don't know if i i don't know that i agree that we should just go and toss them into the wilderness but i do think that there is merit the idea that human beings need adversity to flourish the homeless problem is one of the hardest ones to discuss right right? Because it gets into the idea of body sovereignty. It gets into the idea of free will, but then you have to have these discussions where they say,
Starting point is 00:54:11 oh, just throw them in a hotel. Just give them a hotel and everything will be fine. And the hotel is destroyed two days later. And it's one of the hardest ones to discuss because there really isn't a clean solution to any of it. Yours might be the cleanest solution to that type of thing, but that's just for the ones that are actually doing something
Starting point is 00:54:27 that's harming the quality of life of somebody else. What about the ones that aren't? Like, what do you do? Then what if we just say, like, we as a city reserve the right to remove people from our boundaries? Yeah. They will never do it.
Starting point is 00:54:41 I think the people in these cities like it. I mean, well, they... I think the people in these cities aren't... mean well they i think the people in these cities aren't of most of the time they're not affected right like so right if there's like a million people in a city and there's a thousand homeless people that's a lot of homeless people but it's not enough to have a negative effect on everybody's life every day enough where they're gonna be like hey this is a big deal that's that's one of the things i said in la is i said there i saw this guy in a he was clearly disabled.
Starting point is 00:55:05 He's driving a little scooter thing. I couldn't tell if he was paraplegic or quadriplegic, but he couldn't use the sidewalk that was built for him in order to get down the street because there's literally so many encampments. So he's driving on the road and cars are like dodging him down 6th Street. It's just like, I thought you guys were about, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:22 caring for people that are disabled and et cetera, but you're not. Okay, here's another idea what if we take homeless people that like after after a certain amount of infractions maybe three if they're sleeping outside and it's like hey you can't sleep outside this is your first warning don't do it again then we catch them like defecating it's like look this is your second time the third time you know what's going to happen third time they get placed in government housing where their food and shelter is taken care of. They will be clothed and fed, but they have to do work that we prescribe
Starting point is 00:55:52 and they're not allowed to leave. Do you swear meals a day? I've heard of a place like that. I know. I do. I mean, there's... How about if someone takes a crap on the street, we prosecute them and put them in jail? You think so? You think so, right? What do you think? I mean, there's, how about if someone takes a crap on the street, we prosecute them and put them in jail?
Starting point is 00:56:05 You think so? You think so, right? What do you think? I mean, absolutely. Yeah. That would be ideal. But unfortunately, that's not the way that our society or legal system is currently running. And I think people have come to accept this as the new normal.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Yeah. I mean, so many young people that I meet in DC and cities like Chicago or New York, they don't know any different. This is what they're used to you see it's so sad at the oscars this year like they just put up big fake walls so that you couldn't see the homeless people while the celebrities were walking down that is the gross that is the grossest thing that is it's the most nimby thing in the world it is so gross they just clear them out for a couple of days. They're like, you can come back after the event. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:47 You know what I think benefited me greatly as a kid is that I went to Catholic school from kindergarten. I was homeschooled. Then I went to Catholic school from kindergarten until fifth grade, started sixth grade at public school. Those kids in public school did not know it was possible. The kids at the Catholic school I felt were very like hoity-toity and like very high strung. But at the Catholic school, everything's more ordered yep i went to catholic school from from kindergarten until uh seventh grade or no yeah seventh grade so there's a lot of people
Starting point is 00:57:16 who don't know that things can be really really good they don't they they've never experienced they don't know it's possible well yeah if you if you're born into that environment you just adjust to it accordingly and then you never really look outside of that they talk about a lot of people who grew up in inner cities who never who never travel more than a couple blocks from their house they've never seen any and that's just that's something you could get away with in a car right like they could drive to get there but they don't drive you know they've never owned a car they've never been someplace other that shows them that there's more things that shows them that there's more things that are possible that's kind of where in a lot of ways i feel like a lot of that
Starting point is 00:57:48 the um how we talk about going away to college like that's what that's become for a lot of for a lot of kids like they get a scholarship because they want to go away and experience something different of course colleges now are not exactly what they used to be but a lot of people just they never learn that there is a world outside of what they're used to yeah yep and then what ends up happening is they keep voting for what they think is the only thing it's the funniest thing to me we had lance on and um the conversation around daniel penny and i don't know if it was him but uh it might have been aoc saying something like you know the the right keeps blaming mental illness for all these things,
Starting point is 00:58:26 but the Republicans defund these mental illness, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, what Republican is running New York City? This is run by, like all of these issues, Black Lives Matter, police, it's all Democrat cities. It's the craziest thing to me. When they're like, we want to defund the police. I'm like, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Y'all are in a Democrat city. Defunding the police is no issue. It does nothing to my sheriff's department i don't care yeah the left is complaining about what they voted for it is the it is the craziest thing it's wild they're in democrat run cities complaining about problems that are born of their policies it's like watching a toilet get flushed and i'm just sitting there being like there it goes they just it's just spinning around and around around they keep doing the same thing and then complaining about it.
Starting point is 00:59:06 I remember arguing with kids in LA that were saying like, oh, it's all these Republican senators, these Republican congressmen. There's numerous senators. Do you understand how many there are? You don't have any idea. It's like, dude, you're in LA. Yeah, you're in California. The senator can't change what's happening in LA. That's your city government.
Starting point is 00:59:21 People are so ignorant about what they are upset about yeah it's they have no idea that the most effective things that they can do are things that they do locally you know the things that are going to have the biggest impact on their daily lives are going to be things that they you know can do locally joe biden is not going to be able to do anything and isn't interested in doing anything to make your life better like not at all so to and i really wish that you could get people to like not just hear that but actually internalize and be like all right if i want to make, if I want my life to be better, I have to do things,
Starting point is 01:00:07 whether it be acting locally or maybe it's, it's, you know, taking some, you know, taking some agency in your own life and going out and trying to do some stuff. There's a lot of people that have rough lives,
Starting point is 01:00:19 but they also get so wrapped up in the fact that their life is rough that they're not going to, they feel like they can't do anything about it. So if you feel like you have no agency and you can't do anything, you're not going to try. In Minnesota, post George Floyd in Uptown, you know, a lot of these places were the same ones that held events, advertising, defund the police, you know, which leads to a lot of lawlessness in the city. And what would happen is graffiti would be put up on all of the buildings, you know, all of the shops in Uptown.
Starting point is 01:00:49 And then the city would come through and they would say, you need to clean this up in the next seven days or we're going to clean it up for you. And we're going to charge you $700, $800 to do it. And of course, because, you know, the cops have pulled back because of all of the negative press that's going on at that time. Graffiti goes up. They get hit with a $700 fine when somebody has to come clean it up for them. And it never seems to make it to their brain that you voted for the policies that are enabling you going out of business. They don't understand that because I don't know if they think that deeply beyond just either whatever the wedge issue is and whatever the emotion that that very skilled politician has done has been
Starting point is 01:01:28 able to do in making you feel angry about it and that's a problem i want to jump to this story give you guys some uh some optimism here cyclists no show post-race podium after biological male finishes first in female race that's the story take a look at this picture the women refuse to show up so i think this is the start of something good there's a another story that we have i think it's uh maybe it's this one losing to a trans writer hurts on a million different levels 24 year old cyclist abandons olympic dream after sickening losses to biological male and protests from Antifa gun club.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Not only that, but apparently this biological male who won physically attacked another writer. This is in. Yes, this is. This is wild. This video from was posted on April 26. It's from cyclocross. Yeah, cyclocross. And the biological male Riley Gaines tweeting it physically attacks and tries to knock down
Starting point is 01:02:24 a woman. and then that woman never races again yeah crazy see they don't they they find all the ways to get the performance enhancing drugs out of them so now they just have to go and compete against women well i mean take take a look i mean this is uh good for these women i've been saying this yeah stop showing up that's a dude and so this is a biological male who won the women's cycle uh race and the other women are like the females are like no we're not gonna we're not gonna go on the podium it's also like remember when um they had it was a leah thomas one but then the other one refused to stand next to leah thomas i think that route that might have been riley gaines right not entirely sure so this is this is the kind of stuff that I'm talking about with, I don't think the left
Starting point is 01:03:05 ideology can actually survive. It's like saying you can build a building. Imagine these people tried building a building. And just imagine what happens. I think everyone goes, oh, okay, now I understand. Like, it's not going to stand up. It's going to
Starting point is 01:03:21 be crooked. It's going to be slumping over on one side. And it may stand for a little bit. They may have guards surrounding it with guns. They may not let you come in. They may, in fact, kick you out of your own building nearby. But sooner or later, that thing comes crashing down. Because there's a logic and order to building a system. They can come out and claim all.
Starting point is 01:03:39 You know what's happening? These people have started building a structure. And then all of their friends are going your structure is so amazing it's those you don't who needs eye beams we don't need support columns like what are you talking about and then they're like very happily toting along building this thing and then one day just crumbles because no one actually believes it they're just trying to keep their head down. It's the emperor having no clothes. Nobody wants to be the person to tell the king
Starting point is 01:04:08 he's naked. Well, that's what happened with Chernobyl. No one wanted to say, hey, there's a problem. They were afraid to tell people, and because of that, that made the meltdown so much worse. If I understand correctly, the meltdown could have been prevented
Starting point is 01:04:23 if they would have actually had the balls to tell the people in charge that there was a problem. But they were afraid to tell that there's a problem with the nuclear reactor. Nobody wanted to be that person who was removed from the photograph with Stalin. Exactly. I don't know what that guy, you know, guys, what was his deal? You know that meme though, right? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the, I don't know the particular story behind it.
Starting point is 01:04:46 How did he do that? That's impressive. Multiple people. That happened to multiple people over the course of time. Yeah, he would deperson them and have his artists, like the Soviet artists, just go through and remove them and repaint the picture, just like we do now with a smartphone and Photoshop, et cetera. Just literally do Photoshop in 1930s and 40s. And that's actually impressive back then, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:03 That's great. I mean, essentially, that's what canceling is now it's it's the same thing it's the same idea it's it's a little bit different than you know actually killing people but like when you cancel someone you remove them from polite society and they're you know they're pariahs and people don't want to associate with them and so it's it's the same thing but a digital but in a digital you know world as opposed to just smoking them. So you had like an actual clone stamp tool in the 1930s to just remove people from the portrait. That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:05:31 It's really impressive. I mean, to your cancel culture point, though, I feel like more things like this happening is effectively canceling this trans ideology that's running rampant across our country. And I think as conservatives, for a long time, we've been very scared to kind of embrace cancel culture. But I honestly think, you know, there are some things that we should cancel. There are some things that are not conducive to like good society. Cancel culture was always the left digging up a tweet from someone from 10 years ago and getting them fired. Right. And so then we saw stuff like Mike Cernovich pulling up jokes from James Gunn, and then James Gunn got suspended. He got fired, but he got hired back. It's not cancel culture to be like, hey, we don't want women's sports to be dissolved.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Right. But I do think, you know, we've bought into this fallacy of like the marketplace of ideas and every opinion should be heard. And it's a great opinion. Opinions like this, you know, are damaging to people. It should not be heard. It shouldn't be told to your children or encouraged in schools or anything like that. So, you know, I think there always will be some orthodoxy that's enshrined in the public square. There is no such thing as like, live and let live, do what you want. Something is
Starting point is 01:06:38 going to dominate the culture. So we need to make sure that what's dominating the culture is something that's good and going to encourage our society to, you know, just like do well and to help people and let people live freely and great. I agree to a great deal. I I'll push more on the freedom of speech component of this in that we don't we don't want these people secretly indoctrinating kids. We want them to come out, show the book, and then we can be like be like and here's why they're wrong because otherwise they'll find creepy ways to do it but i suppose the fair point is it's better that you remove most overt ways of doing it and then they're probably in the shadows even right now you know what i mean so i think my my realization came when um partly from a lot of this that it doesn't matter what your principles are.
Starting point is 01:07:25 It matters where your moral line is. So the left argues they think parents have the absolute right to determine what's best for their kids. But then they don't care that schools are saying don't tell your parents.
Starting point is 01:07:37 The right says parents have the absolute right to determine what's right for their kids, but the government should intervene if a parent tries to give their kid a sex change. Both groups will argue the same sentence, but then perform it in different ways and it's it's similarly after scott at to to how scott adams says we're all watching one screen but seeing
Starting point is 01:07:54 two different movies if that's the case you have to realize moral framework is what unites a people i mean i think you said if no culture you have no country. And that's completely true. Right now in the United States, there's no cohesive culture. I mean, we can't even agree on what a woman is. So yeah, no, there's no founding value system
Starting point is 01:08:12 that everybody prescribes to. But this is what we have to realize. We can agree on what a woman is. It's just that there is a psychotic death cult that can't. But why are we acting like we're on par with them? Imagine you were the CEO of a large media company and the guy who runs the hot dog stand downstairs starts
Starting point is 01:08:31 demanding you debate him because he's a CEO as well. It's like, well, come on, look, man, I'm managing 3000 employees in this building. We're managing assets in the billions of dollars. You have a small business, which I respect, but you are not in a position where you're going to tell me. So this guy running the hot dog stand is like, you're completely wrong about interest rates. Let me tell you. And it's like, look, man, your ideas about what an interest rate is. He comes out and he says, interest rates are not mathematical. They're alphabetical. And you're like, okay, that makes literally no sense. Well, I insist it's true that a bunch of his buddies show up and demand you do a TV interview debate. No, no, no, no, no, no. Come on on if somebody wants to come out and argue they don't know what
Starting point is 01:09:08 a woman is or make some nonsensical claim we should just be like you're a fringe group of people this is the argument they make don't platform these people it's like i'll say the same thing back why should we entertain their opinion it's tough because i was again i was just having the same kind of conversation today with a friend and he's like you know he had an issue with me complaining about communists which is surprise surprise i'm complaining about communists weird but um he had an issue and he's like well you know blah blah blah this person that person he starts talking about the right having uh the the extremist far right having access to power and i'm like what are you talking about the extremist far right and then he's like
Starting point is 01:09:51 well tucker carlson and and uh alex jones and and it's like these people are not extremist far right he's associating them with nazis and he's saying well you know uh you know that nazi kid had dinner with uh with trump and it's like well trump know uh you know that nazi kid had dinner with uh with trump and it's like well trump's kind of a moron for doing that that was a terrible idea milo's the guy that made it happen but like the idea that the far right actual nazis have influence in the culture is to me ridiculous like everybody has their spider sense super tuned in for nazis but no one does for communists but he the way he sees it is like the communists are all fringe and they have no power
Starting point is 01:10:30 i'm like aoc and bernie and you know there's one simple way to test whether or not the right is the cult or the left is but this speaks to the the two the the one movie two different screens well so so i thought about this a long time ago i'm like you know these people keep saying trump supporters are all in a cult and i'm like well i i want to make sure there's a check on my reality i i don't want to be trapped in a bubble am am i wrong on this one let me let me ask you kingsley do you think that you can be a conservative and pro-choice no most conservatives i ask say that they say that that's like one of that's like the hardest line on what makes a conservative. understand the differences between a conservative and me you're not in a cult but the left can't tell the difference at all they see everybody in this room and they see far right it's the meme where they're in the they're in the communist tanky corner and everyone
Starting point is 01:11:41 else is a nazi and it's like if you can't see the difference in politics between brett me luke ian shames i mean luke and shames's politics are also very very different and we come on this show we have eclectic voices and then we talk about it they can't tell the difference i spent the i spent half the day with like my my mentions full of like cowboy come hunter fans complaining that because I made a joke about him. And the other time was arguing with a left-leaning guy about me being associating with far right people while the far right, the Nazis are in my mentions calling me a Jew lover.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Literally just like, you're a Jew. And I'm like, oh, I don't have a problem with jews but i'm not jewish oh i love that yeah the the person who kept super chatting being like when when will you answer someone did a did a review and found that like 25 of all the guests on this show are jewish or something like that i don't even know that's true and they're just like can you explain this and i'm like what what do you mean explain it is there a number that was the correct number right look look if you think there are too many jewish people on timcast irl up your game do something worthwhile and get on timcast irl stop complaining that there are people that are doing things that are jewish on irl did anyone do a breakdown on how many christians come on this
Starting point is 01:13:03 show i am not a christian but we have a very, very heavy disproportionate amount of Christians who come on the show. And Seamus literally talking about like sin and God and faith and stuff regularly. But nobody comes on and be like, how come you have so much God love on your show, Tim? And then Ian is some kind of like he was. Was Ian atheist? I don't know. He's not anymore. He talks a lot about God and the importance of it but he's certainly not very spiritual he's elevated
Starting point is 01:13:29 to a higher being now well yeah i mean that that's what happened i mean uh the reason he's not here is because he ascended to a higher plane of existence he's actually above us right now yeah we're hoping he comes back i hope so part of the reason for that is it really is true that I think if you have anything, you know, right of, you know, what is now far left in society, which is now, you know, having your viewpoints checked because there are people that you're going to be watching, whether it's on social media, whether it's the news, if you're in an airport and you're watching CNN, whether it's the television and the movies you watch, which are all at the very least liberal orthodoxy, if not left, far left, going further left, you're constantly being challenged. Therefore, you're forced to to on a regular basis, see the ideas of people you may disagree with. And that kind of hardens your core to be able to take those concepts, internalize them, understand what they're saying, still understand what your
Starting point is 01:14:34 position on it is, and either make your argument back or just accept that that person believes what they want to believe. And that's fine. The people that fall into the dogma that is the left now, they get news that reaffirms their beliefs. They get movies that reaffirm their beliefs. They get music that reaffirm their beliefs. They aren't really ever exposed to viewpoints that they don't agree with. And when they do, it's on social media and it becomes a re-fest where they argue with you by, and then they block you
Starting point is 01:14:59 or they turn off their mentions so that you can't respond. They get so destroyed in a chat, they have to go to the hospital. I mean, that's another great point that I didn't bring up to my friend that I should have brought up. That kid went to the hospital. Yeah. Poor guy has a brain. Did you see, you saw that?
Starting point is 01:15:13 Yeah, that's insane. It was a nuanced bro. Owned a leftist so hard he checked himself into the emergency room to the ICU. And they gave him like an iv for fluids and stuff and what i thought it was a pair i thought it was fake he should never i thought he was joking he should have never told that because now nuance bro can like wear that badge forever yeah true
Starting point is 01:15:33 there will be merch for that for sure there will be i'm i'm worried now about having nuance bro come in because he might he might put us all in the hospital you know i mean he can seriously seriously hurt us with his mad debate skills He should sell like hospital Wristbands I'm sure someone Can tell him tell Nuance Bro I survived a debate
Starting point is 01:15:55 With Nuance Bro if you debate Nuance Bro you get a hospital wristband That says I survived a debate with Nuance Bro That is actually a really good merch idea. That would be great. Do it, New Once Bro. Come on, man. You got to do that, man.
Starting point is 01:16:09 That's good. But it's kind of crazy that he didn't actually do that much. He just told the kid he was wrong. Well, I mean, he was so, so dramatically wrong. And it kind of makes sense why. Like, if you think that's going on, which I can't imagine. Well, for those that don't know the context, the kid said that 30% of black people were being killed every year by police.
Starting point is 01:16:30 And he was like, they would be gone in three years. There'd be no black people left. Like, that's crazy. Yeah, and it's because of, you know, it's because of the narrative that comes out that, again, is constantly shoved down people's throat from the left. And people like, even LeBron James, I brought it up the other night, he's talking about, you know, we're hunted in the streets. It's like, that is so far from true.
Starting point is 01:16:52 And it's so hyperbolic that people, it's no wonder why there are like people that are low information that are like, man, I'm going to die. The streets of Calabasas. Yeah, man, for real. If it was true that police were killing 30 of black people every year this show would be called antifa irl and i would be one of the most i would be one of the
Starting point is 01:17:11 most prolific organizers resisting all of that and fighting to stop it it's incredibly ridiculous i mean but anyway so that's the context and this kid ends up checking himself into a hospital it's it's crazy because he learned the world wasn't as bad as he thought he even says is 15 to 20 percent fair and they're like what no millions of people is not fair that's just not fair millions of people being shot and killed in the streets every year innocent like not happening but he genuinely thought that this is what happens when these kids grow up in the internet cult yeah they then they think this stuff and when you look this stuff up even if you were to go to look up
Starting point is 01:17:50 the statistics you have to go four to five like pages down before you actually get to any type of demographic data and before that all you get is new york times articles los angeles times articles and they're all over the top yeah and they all have the headlines that we all know that are designed to you don't even get past that you get to the headline and you get scared and you get angry and you don't actually look for further information from now on I'm going to say that oh that was a deep fake
Starting point is 01:18:15 so now if they're like didn't you see that video of that guy and I'll be like which one of them that right wing guy that was a deep fake you didn't see that that was fake that's just it's not real anymore nothing's real you're wrong deep fakes. Nothing's real. You're wrong. Deep fakes are... My sources are real videos. Your sources are all deep fakes.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Next question. Yes, that's for sure. Great technique. Well, because you know what I'm thinking? I'm like, in 10 years, we won't be having these conversations because nothing will be real anymore. Yeah, it'll be AI doing it for us. No, no, it's not that.
Starting point is 01:18:40 It's that you won't be able to know. We're very very very close to the point where you just can't know i mean do you guys see that video that photograph of trump running through dc with sonic the hedgehog like was that real i can't tell i can't tell no that was obviously obviously fake but uh because sonic didn't look real his hair was off but um they should have used the sonic from the original design from the movie that everybody hated so much well i just asked mid journey to do it i can't tell it to make like use bad sonic is bad sonic with the weird teeth don't look up bad sonic either on on the internet that's a whole nother thing that you don't know
Starting point is 01:19:13 but but my point is right now we still have the ability to know what's true and what's not but it's getting harder and we are standing on the edge about to experience something crazy in a few years i think even next year when there's 8 000 videos of trump doing weird things and you can't tell if it's real or fake it's gonna be hard actually let me pull this story up and i'll tell you about what's going on right here uh let me let me jump to timcast.com real quick so and i'll explain where what i'm talking about we have this story right here. Take a look at this. From TimCast.com,
Starting point is 01:19:48 feminine hygiene dispenser vandalized an Oregon high school boys' restroom. One parent told TimCast News, putting feminine products in the boys' bathrooms is just asking for the types of incidents to happen. So we see this photo. Let me pull up the tweet. And our journalistic team reached
Starting point is 01:20:04 out to the school and two parents, got confirmation, got an email saying this did happen. I saw this photo and said, this is a fake photo. I do not believe this is a real photo. It does not look real. Why is it grainy? Why is the lighting so strange? It looks like a bad Photoshop. And it's intentionally low res so that you you can't see
Starting point is 01:20:26 where the seams are apparently it's real we like we actually have i think uh two different two different uh confirmations that this did happen we're wondering though if someone faked the photograph to go along with the story that originated from an email who took the photo does it we're our team is working on it right now actually because i asked them i was like are we are we do we know for sure there's just a teacher there with like an iphone 4 and so what we're saying is we do have an email from the school where they said this happened and it's been happening quite a bit but i don't know if i believe this photo is real maybe it is maybe it isn't that is the issue first i'll say this according to the email that we got and speaking one of the parents it looks like high school boys are ripping down feminine hygiene
Starting point is 01:21:09 products because they're putting them in the boys room for some reason so that's kind of funny and based but um you know kids shouldn't vandalize things let's put it at that the kids are clearly protesting and this is their right and uh but but i don't think it's real like this photograph doesn't seem real to me at the very least i'm not sure if it's real or fake and that's all that matters come next year there will be photos of donald trump and you're going to be like reasonable doubt i have no idea yeah there's enough doubt there and there's no way to confirm it and there's no way to debunk it these ai checker checking things that i just don't know that they can actually do it there was a one post i saw where a person said he got accused of using chat gpt to write a college essay and he was he was he was posting about how he did not and the teacher used a program that
Starting point is 01:21:56 claimed a paragraph was ai generated and when he said it's not they said we'll change it then and no matter what he did it kept claiming it was ai generated so what he'll have to like write it right in front of them so they can actually physically see him write it yep but more importantly you're gonna see a video of trump and you're gonna be like does that really happen and the fact that you don't know and have doubt means we won't be able to have a conversation about it like i wonder if it happened i have no idea maybe what happens is Trump actually did a bunch of bad stuff and he waits until then and he's got plausible deniability, releases them all at that time. You already had that story that one of the Krasensteins is on video saying he's getting
Starting point is 01:22:34 paid to troll basically. And then he said, he came out and said, that was a clip from a skit that we were doing like a, like a, like a bit. And it's taken out of context. Is it? He could be lying. He could be telling the truth, but I don't know why he would do a like a bit and it's taken out of context is it he could be lying yeah he could be telling the truth but i don't know why he would do a hidden camera bit like that that's kind of weird like why would you do that the fact that you can already say things like
Starting point is 01:22:54 this and people are going to believe it means we've been in the post-truth era for a long time i mean think about how long ago it was when we had the very fine people thing and nobody just did any research further nobody said hmm this clip is cut at a very interesting place they've had ways of doing this in the media for a long long time it's just going to be a lot easier for people to fake it there's going to be pictures of biden doing weird stuff there already are yeah but i mean like there's plenty of super cuts on the internet if you want to see b doing weird stuff. But I mean, like it's going to it's going to get heavy. That's it's going to get heavy.
Starting point is 01:23:28 That's the so that's one of my worries is that the government says, look, we can't people can't discern between what is true and what is not anymore. So we can't have elections or we can't, you know, like that's something that I think is within the cards, like the government deciding we can't have like people can't make the distinction between what is real and what isn't. Governments can't do it anymore because AI generates things that AI can't detect or whatever. So that means that we can't allow people to make decisions for themselves. And I don't know that that is something that would happen, but if I can conceive of the argument, some power-hungry scumbag can definitely conceive of the argument. So, again,
Starting point is 01:24:14 I don't know that it'll happen, but it's something that I wouldn't be shocked in any way if there was some buddy saying, look, we can't trust our eyes and our ears, so you gotta let the government take care of you because, you know. They'll bring back that disinformation governance board. Oh, the Nina Django-its position?
Starting point is 01:24:33 As long as she debunks all the misinformation and disinformation by singing musicals. Then I'm okay with it. Wait, didn't they put Kamala Harris in charge of the, isn't she the AI czar? Yeah, when she's not literally opening the door for people to come into the country from Mexico. She was the border czar and the AI. We are screwed. The AI czar? I'd rather have the AI be in charge.
Starting point is 01:24:57 She knows something about being an artificial. It won't laugh. It won't be quite as annoying when it laughs at you. Yeah. Though I will say one of my favorite things recently is there's's this guy who makes uh ai videos of the last three presidents singing together those are great uh it's biden trump and obama singing like rap songs together it's fantastic so i mean have you ever have you ever listened to the donald trump sings yeah oh maestro zicos on youtube oh it's fantastic his cover don Donald Trump singing Blinded by the Blinding Lights.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Blinded by the Lights. Fantastic. Yeah, that's really good. Let's pull that up. And it's cut together with actual, it's not AI. It's literally, he's taken from interview pieces, which means it must take thousands of hours to make that. Here you go.
Starting point is 01:25:38 I'll just play a second of it. Maybe you can show me how to love. Maybe. I'm going through withdrawals. You don't even have to do too much. It's amazing. You can turn me on with just a touch. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:25:57 I'll have all day. He's amazing. The city's empty. No one's around to judge me. You can't see clearly when you're gone. Half that guy's channel is just those videos. I know, it's amazing. They're good. It has to take so long to do.
Starting point is 01:26:25 But you mean to tell me that that's not actually Donald Trump singing? The one of him singing See You Again by Wiz Khalifa is incredible. It's like an AI-generated version of it. It's amazing. But I mean, I think Donald Trump sings Havana. That's his most popular one. There's a Taylor Swift one that's also really good. You mean this is not real? That's so good.
Starting point is 01:27:13 I think he watches these at like 2 in the morning. People Google themselves. I bet you he Googles himself. I had to go. Oh, na, na, na, na, na. Havana. Oh, na, na. Yeah, but my heart is in Havana. Oh, na, na. That's so good. She took me back to Atlanta. Na, na, na.
Starting point is 01:27:37 Oh, but my heart is in Havana. There's something about his manners. Havana. Brilliant. I think his latest stuff is like Joee biden joe joe biden sings in chinese and he had uh what is this uh ella byla sola covered by trump see the thing is like during the last of us presidential version his videos were getting way more hits when trump was president and now he's got like this Biden sings in Chinese, 23,000 views. This is like really hard to make too.
Starting point is 01:28:17 Oh yeah. Pulling up every clip of Trump saying a word. Such a pain. Yeah. It's like, and people are like, the reason it's not popular now, they're like, it was a lot more funny when I had money and I could afford to put gas in my car it's not quite as funny this time i can't afford food now so so here's the problem though maestro maestro zicos did all this work to make these songs and we're about a year away from you opening up your phone pressing the voice to text and saying render me a video of donald trump singing blinding lights
Starting point is 01:28:46 and then it will just be like rendering and then boom and it'll sound perfect i mean i've like i admit to being in like i've been watching a lot of like the like there's a bunch of kanye and britney spears ai songs where it's just them performing songs that they never sang and it's like at a certain point we're just there now right like you don't even have to actually make the music. You can just have somebody. That Weekend and Drake song. Is that what you're talking about?
Starting point is 01:29:10 Yeah. They made an AI version of it and it went viral. Yeah. It's like music is done. Yeah, pretty much. But I suppose if you own the rights, you're going to be good for a long time. Because like Phil, all you got to do is tell it,
Starting point is 01:29:24 write me some new All That Remains, and then and you'll and then you you have a render a hundred different songs then you go through them and say these these five are good that's the new album and then you're done in 10 minutes i mean i i i assume that i would i'm actually i'm not sure that i would actually even bother going to track it if if i can do it yeah no you said the end of it well there's there was actually AI rappers that companies were creating and giving record deals. Oh, I remember that. FN Mecca was like something like,
Starting point is 01:29:50 it was just created by a company, right? And they have AI activists now, like AI social media influencers that have actual causes that they champion because they're created by corporations, but they're just an avatar. You didn't know that, Brett? Yeah, yeah, yeah. AOC? Not even real? Not even real. Greta Thunberg? AI. created by corporations but they're just an avatar you you didn't know that brett yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:30:05 aoc not even real not even real uh greta thunberg ai that's right yeah it's perfect sense yeah i mean for all we know have you ever seen him have you ever seen him in real life alex stein i can tell you he's not real yeah yeah that's how that's how they did the the video of alex stein and aoc together because they're both computer generated so when uh you know when whenever we've had alex on the stage, people don't realize it's some guy in a green screen suit. I would believe that AOC is actually created in a lab. She's the perfect antithesis of Donald Trump.
Starting point is 01:30:37 We should actually do that bit with Alex Stein. It's like you see him on stage, but then we do a separate video where it's just a guy in a green suit, dancing and rapping. There's no Alex Stein. alex nine he's he's ai generated yeah ask him yeah ian is real though ian is not real ian's not it's not real yeah his brain may be attached to the computer but the rest of them is attached to something balloons balloons you know the weirdest thing about the ai is um i was talking to my brother he he said he's like did you ever put nothing into mid journey and i said yeah and it made a bunch of hot air balloons and he was like yeah that's what it does for real i guess for whatever reason
Starting point is 01:31:17 if you go to mid journey and you give it nothing i did a blank space i wrote null in brackets and then i did one with like a period or a single letter whatever it just makes a bunch of hot air balloons yeah weird pictures just mostly hot air balloon i wonder if it's because there's a ton of hot air balloon pictures on the internet with no caption that wouldn't just be programmed in there from the i don't know stocking you know i was i was wondering too though about like i wonder if you can um if you can code inject into the ais code inject yeah so like they've done prompt injections and i think the answer is probably a simple no most people probably understand this already so uh like sql injection is a rudimentary way to break into uh websites because what you need to imagine is when you're at a website and it says username and
Starting point is 01:32:06 password and you see those two boxes imagine behind the website's front door or whatever wall all that code is there and then the code stops and the username is blank and it keeps going and the username stops and it's blank and you putting in those words are adding to the code of the website so if you insert into those boxes more strings of code you can change what the whole program does so people were fine people could break into websites by instead of putting a username they would literally write code so i'm wondering if you can write code into some of these ais and then have it do things they wouldn't normally do right i guess you'd have to know what their code is first and know what they're like you'd be able to see the source code first to know how to do it
Starting point is 01:32:48 yeah well what do we accept just like an input no idea but how about we go to super chats ladies and gentlemen if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends and become a member at timcast.com to support our work because we uh we do enjoy uh doing the work and we appreciate your support but you can also go to castbrew.com and buy coffee man i gotta tell you i did not uh it's not easy doing the coffee thing we are running behind we produce coffee we sell it out we gotta throw money in it takes a long time and then so like we've invested heavily uh heavily into this coffee shop a lot but uh it's it's it's turning around and we think we're trying to find that sales equilibrium where we can see where our balance point is at and grow slowly but we're growing so rapidly it's costing us a lot of money but uh thank you for your support let's uh smash
Starting point is 01:33:33 that like button we'll read some of your super chats i'm not your buddy guys says very excited for monday's guest and despite having opposing views on certain topics such as country polling integrity with you i truly appreciate supporting you and your team over at timcast thank you very much good sir uh who do we have on monday phil dan bongino oh yeah i believe dan dan bongino is going to be here so uh we normally don't like announcing because then if they cancel everyone gets let down but uh very excited at first i was like do you really want me to say it i'm not sure messing with me well you know because like especially with someone like dan if he gets busy and then he's like hey look something came up people are sure well you know because like especially with someone like dan if he gets busy and then he's like hey look something came up people are like oh you know and then it's just
Starting point is 01:34:10 like well you know sometimes people don't make it people don't make it you know we were supposed to have uh kelly cadigan on a culture war podcast this morning but uh that didn't happen due to me posting tweets about my opinions on fact-based issues yeah thanks for the day off man i actually i said that it's like what if tim just woke up he's like i don't really feel like doing it today it's like said something else it's like guys but it's like it's not even that offensive it's crazy no i'm like this is the centrist take on this yeah it's wild and whatever let's read some more super jets all right where are we at sa federali says, I've never laughed this hard alone until the Don jr. Show and Colby after show juxtapose that with S libs,
Starting point is 01:34:51 primal screaming with their miserable friends, white pills, as far as the eye can see. I do think my favorite moment of the show we did with Don jr. Is that when Seamus started promoting his, his show, Trump, Don jr. Is just like, I am a Trump!
Starting point is 01:35:06 Like, it was almost like a, how dare you try to out-promote with me in the room? He was trying to be polite. I would have figured that he knew that, like, that's the time to go ahead and plug your stuff. And Seamus is like, Seamus starts and he's just like, wait a minute here. It's like, well, you had your chance, man.
Starting point is 01:35:22 No one is stopping you. Yeah, and Hannah Clare was promoting Tim Cassidy. He's like, wait a minute.. It's like, well, you had your chance, man. No one is stopping you. Yeah. And Hannah Clare was promoting Tim Cassidy. He's like, wait a minute. I am a Trump. That was good. I am bred for this self-promotion. I also liked when he was talking about tweeting. And then he was like, he would get a call from the White House after tweeting something.
Starting point is 01:35:38 And he's like, I learned it from you, Dad. That was so good. I learned it from you. All right. We'll grab some more yeah it was fun but i recommend if you guys haven't checking out the members only show from yesterday with uh colby covington because uh i go to great details to why we had no culture war show this morning and it is very informative um i think you should check it out and we were hilarious i guess i mean i was just like i thought i was very academic the whole time i thought it was hilarious although i did say some things that were abrasive with the intention to explain why i don't say those things but uh let's read some more
Starting point is 01:36:16 j marie says 1984 teaches us that it doesn't matter what the truth is what matters is what's on the public record marie thesis podcast thank you for the shout out for the super chat purple says tim best drug dealer cast brew life we're working on a bunch of commercials and one of them we want to do we were considering was doing a coffee commercial like a drug commercial so it's like do you feel tired lacking focus or depressed perhaps cast brew coffee is right for you and then having someone like it's like gray and they're like in the office and they're sad and then you know the doctor is like looking and taking notes and then hands them a cup of coffee and then they drink it and they're like yeah and then actually we would actually list the side
Starting point is 01:36:57 effects like caffeine's addictive it can cause jitter jitters it can uh a lot of headaches migraines things like that if you're sweating yeah if you're sweating a lot of things do a lot of things caffeine's a drug man but coffee's cool we like coffee i love coffee me too and the rise of roberto jr breakfast blend is like my favorite it's really good yeah i'm excited i'm excited for the k cups so we can just put them in and then we're doing limited edition bags. So there'll be a different picture of Roberto Jr. on each bag, but it'll be a limited run.
Starting point is 01:37:30 Oh, whoa. And then we're also thinking of doing just outright limited edition runs. We might just do 1,000 of one kind with one bag and that's it. Never anymore. Sweet. Yeah, so there'll be special ones. We can make a Labonte brew make we can make like a labonte
Starting point is 01:37:45 brew or something you know and like just like a one run on it like my face like big old mouth open on it we'll grab some more where we're at the average guy reacts says the ad at the beginning of your stream was a bud light advertisement yeah that's hey man i'll take their money i don't care yeah you know it's like if bud light loses money and gives me money and they want to make their argument to you that's that's exactly the point i think they're allowed to make their case and make their argument and if it sways you then good good for them you know yeah i got no issue because i can come on my show and i can say what i think about them and that's that's fine i don't think i don't think they're convincing anybody, but they can try. No,
Starting point is 01:38:26 apparently it's been happening all week too. So like, yeah, someone mentioned goose Island too. Yeah. Yeah. They're trying, but this is where they should advertise. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:33 Right. I mean like people are the people who are watching here are the ones who are perturbed. So yeah, that's when I'm back. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. Says,
Starting point is 01:38:42 Tim, you got to check out the latest cast castle, the Bertening, the Crowder bit with Taylor yelling at Wesley was better than the actual leaked footage. raymond g stanley jr says tim you got to check out the latest cast castle the burtening the crowder bit with taylor yelling at wesley was better than the actual leaked footage plus burtman's alien rupture damn i look good i've heard really really good things and uh i've heard really good things about the cinematography they've been they've been doing a really great job with uh improving the quality and all that stuff yeah so you know my
Starting point is 01:39:02 attitude with cast castle is is there is a structure plan for it, but I'm kind of just like, they're going to do their thing. You know? I don't know. And we got to a point where enough people signed up to be members. This is the funny thing about Cast Castle. So this is like our
Starting point is 01:39:19 sitcom kind of joke show where we make poke fun at stuff. And for a while we were like it's not really working we don't know what we're going to do and it was a vlog and it was like making some money and then we did this members only version of it which was more fiction fictionalized version of what's going on here in the culture war and we got enough people to sign up that actually covers the cost of doing cast castles a show so now i'm just kind of like okay we did it like that's it would be great if we got a million
Starting point is 01:39:45 views and it was like this big show and everyone thought it was funny but we're at a point where enough people like it and are paying monthly that it covers the costs of doing the show and i'm like we could basically run it forever now yeah so there's no that's it just there you go have fun guys and enough people like it once you cover overhead and like you know then it's then it's all gravy you know it's like that's the that's the goal like people do get worked up in and thinking of you know what get wrapped up in where am i successful when can i consider myself a success i think that a good metric of it is can you do what you wanted to do what you love to do and pay your bills and if you can do that then you're successful anything after that is you know that's gravy but if you can live
Starting point is 01:40:33 your life doing what you want to do that's that's successful in my opinion knuckles spank says that after show last night was worth every dollar spent on timcast facts don't care come on man you know the thing yeah so so i really do recommend it um basically what happened was i made a comment on the sports illustrated cover with kim petras so i said something about the normalization of certain predilections and this resulted in our friday morning guest who is a trans woman saying i will not associate with a person who says these things even if they're scientifically accurate so then we just we went on the members only and i basically broke down everything that i was saying and how i feel and my point was ultimately that i in no way disparaged anybody by referring to uh these procedures in this way i presented
Starting point is 01:41:22 sex change surgeries in a very neutral fashion with my personal negative leaning opinion without being derisive or targeting an individual. And that was too much for them. They got so greatly offended by it. And then Jordan Peterson chimed in with a picture of Pennywise the clown. And I said, Dr. Peterson woke up this morning
Starting point is 01:41:39 and chose violence. So I recommend you guys check out the Colby Covington members only show yeah that's a good one uh and then we had people call in and uh oof and then for some reason the rumble stream didn't work yeah rumble broke apparently for the first few minutes yeah they're from what andrew told me later they're working on some server stuff so it happens though i'm not worried but we we just restarted and we were gonna go and the app i think is almost ready to go here's the problem getting the app on timcast app on apple is crazy hard yeah on google apparently it's super easy yeah play store yeah that apple store all right
Starting point is 01:42:13 we'll grab some more super chance meme tv says kingsley thank you for standing up and continuing to support trump we appreciate you ah you're welcome yes I am a big Trump supporter. 24 have not left the Trump train. I think he's the only one that can take down the entrenched elite class that controls all of our institutions. As I was saying earlier in Washington, D.C., inside the Beltway, the people that hate those of us who live outside the Beltway and hate our values. So I'm behind him 100 percent. Right on. Adam says, hey, Tim, can you give a shout out to the new movie sound of freedom starring jim caviezel comes out july 4th thanks that has been in the works for like a super long time they had a really hard time finding distribution for that film there's like a lot of lore what's it about it's about human trafficking um it was like the first thing
Starting point is 01:43:00 jim caviezel did after he got after he finished person of interest he did a couple of um audio books and stuff um related to religious you know to his religious convictions and stuff like that but this is his first i think full-length film in that period of time and i'm very excited to see that movie boosted yogi says would you consider having jared mcneil on he's a freestyle motocross rider that has lived in the States for 13 years, married, and as a child was recently denied his green card because he doesn't have the jab. Absolutely. That sounds like a good culture war episode.
Starting point is 01:43:33 Yeah, it does. Should definitely have him on. Wyatt Caldenberg says, I noticed that on most local elections in my small city, there are many offices that no one runs for. In these cases, City Hall appoints people. How do we fill these ballots with the right people? that's you yeah run yeah there you go figure out where no one's running take the job yeah there you go that's what you were talking about earlier
Starting point is 01:43:53 i feel like taking like matters into your own hands yeah doing the work yeah too many of us are sitting on the sidelines we've got to get in the fight right i asked perplexity.ai if it was considered homosexual if a male was engaging in activities with a trans woman and it said there's no clear consensus and then actually goes into great detail explaining the positions of the left and the right on it and i thought it was really interesting so then i asked it would it be considered homosexual if two trans women were engaged in activities with each other and it said it there considered homosexual if two trans women were engaged in activities with each other and it said it there's no clear there's no way to know and i'm like that kind of feels like even the left would agree is you know like two trans and it's two women then
Starting point is 01:44:35 clearly it would be considered homosexual right but you know the ai is like look man i i got no idea you're talking about i'm not gonna do this it's too scared of getting canceled doesn't want to get involved you know yeah bar fight and says why does this guy remind me of keanu reeves who which guy was that was from one of the stories not sure which guy that was 8 30 i don't know trash panda says yep we are the ones trying to be healthy i'm currently at the gym getting in a full bodybody workout. Deadlifts for the God Emperor. Good stuff. And tomorrow morning, we're all going on a big family skate trip. We're going to have a picnic because we're going to get good food.
Starting point is 01:45:12 Then we're going to exercise all day, get real sweaty, and do some flippity-flops and whirlybirds. And in the case of Brett, he's going to do some grindy-loos. Yes. Some spinnerifics andre c says tim your future scenario is a roundabout secular realization of the book of revelation ha ha ha uh secular realization my future scenario which one is that the conservative future roundabout secular because i'm not an atheist what is that what is what is it's secular is that a reference to what secular means not like not having an actual religion i suppose that's that's correct but i do believe in god yes i have some form of religion yeah like i consider myself agnostic
Starting point is 01:45:56 so i don't know because like anything about like spirit realm or whatever is outside of humans ability to know like you know you can't you can only know the things that happen inside of our reality anything else is a matter of faith so i don't know and so because i don't know i can't say there is or is not this is my take on it yeah it yeah let's uh we'll grab some more matt Matt Nill says, Tim, you are talking about the right conservative surviving if there's a famine apocalypse. Angel Studios,
Starting point is 01:46:29 the makers of the Chosen series, is doing a campaign, make a show called Homestead. It's about exactly that. Huh. I mean, I'm watching that show Sweet Tooth. Have you guys seen it?
Starting point is 01:46:40 No. The World Economic Forum propaganda? Oh. Oh. That's what I think Alexlex jones said about it and i'm watching it and it's like do you know what really really just the there's two things in in pop culture i cannot stand watching the first is any fictional show any any depiction really of a dog being hurt like i don't i don't care if it's like a fake tv show if it's a real
Starting point is 01:47:05 thing like on the news i'll be angry like the cops going on how's they shoot a dog but if it's like i'm watching a movie and the bad guy like kills the dog that's why that's why like john wick i was like i'm going to see that movie because like he gets revenge over it like everybody knows you don't kill the dog right yeah and the other thing is when there's a poke a post poke post-apocalyptic world and a character destroys the last chance of the last remnants of humanity i'm like that is on par with killing a dog in fiction for me so like horizon zero the horizon series the video games i view the main character so the new game came out a few months ago the new expansion just came out it's about a post-apocalyptic world i she's the bad guy you play the bad guy i'm sorry like i don't want to spoil too much because the game did just come out and people
Starting point is 01:47:53 probably still playing it but i view her as the bad guy just like maliciously evil eric it's it's like leftist ideological evil the old world must be destroyed by any means necessary just like oh evil and then um i'm watching sweet tooth and i don't want to spoil this too because i think season two just came out but same thing man like the good guys are the people in these series who are like let's wipe out all human success and development it is very ishmael it is very like go back to living in the caves yeah no way man return to monkey but in a bad way but in a bad way return to monkey is is a terrible idea it is it's not meant to be taken literally i think we forget it's return to return to tradition is different but return to monkey is the is like the making fun of that even return
Starting point is 01:48:40 to tradition like there are people that take it a little too far. The Deus Volt people? Yeah. Yeah. Totally. I like indoor plumbing, and I like the modern world. I like air conditioning. I like the modern world that we live in,
Starting point is 01:48:57 and a big part of my problem with the commies is the eco commies that want to say you can't have air conditioning, and you can't use fuel for your car. I will say this. So the first Horizon game, which came out several years ago i don't mind spoiling because it's set it's like super old at this point but basically the world ends because automated machines are self-replicating to the point where they're destroying the ecosystem humanity has 16 months left to live they build underground terraforming labs so that after all of life
Starting point is 01:49:22 is wiped out they can brute force the machines shut them down and then re-terraform the earth and clone humans to repopulate it and then the industrialist who made the robots decides to purge the apollo program which is the program that would have educated the new humans so instead they grow up in complete ignorance literally knowing nothing but english and then the whole world becomes like just a bunch of really dumb superstitious people killing each other, brutal slavery. And the guy says like,
Starting point is 01:49:51 they won't repeat the same mistake. So I'll erase all of the knowledge of humanity. And I'm like, yeah, that's the, that's the bad guy. Yeah. And so I'll just put it simply without spoiling the other game.
Starting point is 01:50:00 You basically become the bad guy. And I'm just like, what if the, how come here's what I think in the first game, they recognized destroying all of human knowledge was evil in the bad guy. And I'm just like, how come? Here's what I think. In the first game, they recognized destroying all of human knowledge was evil. In the second game, they are now leftists who are like, actually, that was the good thing.
Starting point is 01:50:13 And I'm just like, not a fan. I don't like it. Neboop says, get the chick to talk, just like yesterday. Let the guest talk. I'm talking.
Starting point is 01:50:24 I think people need to understand like people talk if they can talk i i'll i'll point out this out too like there are episodes where you may notice there will be a silence yeah it is rare but there will be a silence if nobody talks there's nothing you can do and it goes on forever in your brain when you hear it like when you're here and you see and there is the moment where it lulls it just it lasts for an eternity in a second you'll i'll get people being like why isn't someone so speaking why isn't the guest speaking why is this person speaking and then i'll be like okay let's let's let's let's let some air rest and then no one talks yeah and it's like okay anywhere where were we yeah people can only talk if they want to talk
Starting point is 01:51:01 you know or if they have something to say you know if you know anything to say like it's probably better to not say anything if you don't have anything to say right yesterday in gaming says tim you're forgetting about the lab grown babies that can be raised by ai they don't need families all they need to do is realize they're having a population crisis and use technology to replace the family unit that's enough internet for today i don't i don't i don't think so i mean that is like at the end of the first horizon game you go into one of the ectogenic ectogenic machines and then you can see old holographic recordings and it's like children were born but had no education and the machines were just like time for food children and then if the kids tried to go into the classroom where the
Starting point is 01:51:45 program had been purged it beats them like yeah it was like like that room is off limits children and they're like we want to know what's in there and they're like no and then it shows them on the ground writhing in pain that's like the nikola tesla like man-made horrors beyond comprehension like i just don't even want to live in that world yeah i hope i die before then like i just don't want to deal with it that is my biggest fear about ai and also brain implants and and being able to produce in like worlds in your virtual worlds inside your head or whatever i think that people are gonna really do disgusting disgusting disgusting things bro haven't you seen black mirror yeah where the the dude in the fighting game you know that one no have you guys seen you haven't you seen black mirror yeah where the the dude in the fighting game you know that one no have you guys seen you haven't seen this one there's a there's
Starting point is 01:52:29 a virtual reality game where you put this thing on your temple and then it transports you into the game and so it's a fighting game and these two guys it's two adult black men who are friends are playing the game and one guy chooses the asian fighter guy and the other guy chooses the female fighter and then they end up banging all like non-stop in the game and i'm like i'm watching and i'm like why does the game allow that like someone programmed the ability to like do it in this game because why would anyone play the fighting game if they just made a sex game and then like so these two guys are in a relationship in the game but out of the game they're like weirded out by each other. And then the one guy's like, I can't do this.
Starting point is 01:53:08 I'm like, I'm married. You know, I can't keep doing this. And then the other guy was like an adult black man who goes into the video game and keeps playing the same like Asian female character says he like banged a panda bear and like just did all the freaky things in the world. And then the two guys meet up. They both kiss each other. And they're like, that was awful that was awful and they're like okay we should never do that again but then they decide to go back into the game and keep up the relationship and their wives let them do it like black i i like black mirror i think it's gross but i think
Starting point is 01:53:38 it's interesting how black mirror explores what people will do given this technology all you have to do is watch a pride parade and you then can extrapolate what types of deviant behavior people will do and if you want to do stuff that like what you want to do in your life is your own business but constantly like inundating your brain with dopamine it's it is not good for your brain it's not good for your brain you know there's a i shouldn't say too much right now but there's a big event coming up next month and i'm wondering if maybe we do like a members only party at the new timcast space yeah we'll have to figure it out because one of the issues we're having is that in order for the second and third floor
Starting point is 01:54:28 to be open to the public as a public accommodation, it has to be handicap accessible. Oh, yeah. Which is crazy for a building built in 1902. Fortunately, the dude who built it back in the day put an elevator in it. The only problem is it's an elevator from 1902.
Starting point is 01:54:41 Yeah. So that means we have to, we're allowed to use it for private purposes, but if we open the doors as a public accommodation we can't use that elevator it's too old you have to put a new one a new one yeah yeah and it's it's actually not that difficult they're like uh it's i think it's like twenty thousand dollars to thirty thousand dollars it's a lot of money for like for a building modification it's actually not that crazy but for like me to have to that that's kind of crazy but uh if we do it private if it's a private establishment it's not open to the public then we don't when we're
Starting point is 01:55:11 and we're fine you can go up the stairs and then anybody who's either like in a wheelchair or with crutches or something you just use the elevator it works but for the public we can't do it but maybe we do something and um i'll i'll leave it at that but i would i'll just say i think it would cause a big ruckus if i if we did it would because of what next month is yeah next month is rainbow like company logo month basically monkey pox is gonna go through the roof no no but they put a warning they did yeah but they just said they just said summer gatherings They didn't say what kind of gatherings are contributing to the case rise. Piss guzzling orgies.
Starting point is 01:55:48 If we did an event, a members only thing, TimCast.com members would get an email saying like, hey, here's what the party's going to be. Only a certain amount of tickets are available. Please RSVP. We would basically own that town
Starting point is 01:56:08 for that weekend yeah you know we could do something really cool maybe we should reach out maybe like get like a permit for a block party or something that'd be sick then we could have like all that remains play next month that's short notice you know but then we just take over i'll i'll tell you the details and you'll understand everything in private i don't want to say too much just yet but uh you know maybe vigilant says i was unsubscribed yesterday from irl what yeah they do that stuff they do that stuff yeah it's happened to me before kenny logan says tim you don't live in a video game you're pretty much in the dmv you're not in montana if it hits the fan you're just as screwed as the next guy. That is incorrect.
Starting point is 01:56:46 You're incorrect, sir. The person who lives in D.C. is very, very screwed. We are moderately screwed. And the guy in Montana is fine. So we are not the same as the next guy. We are well-armed in the mountains, surrounded by right-wing nutjobs. We are so well-armed around here I will say though, like, what about like Ruby Ridge? That guy was totally off
Starting point is 01:57:08 the grid, well armed. They still got him. But if we're talking about a collapse, technically they got his wife and like in the head while she was carrying the baby. And Randy Weaver, like they paid him for killing his wife. He recently passed away, I think. That's the federal
Starting point is 01:57:23 government. They can do that stuff now. If the system collapses and there is no federal government anymore people in cities are going to be very hungry and they'll start spreading out like a wave in every direction and we are elevated most of these people are not going to want to climb up the 200 or 300 foot elevation where we are from the rivers if If they do, they're in serious trouble because one, we are well armed and two, in the high ground, I'm not really worried. And we're surrounded by right-wing nutjobs.
Starting point is 01:57:52 I think the first thing that happens is if something hit the fan, we'd have a group of people at the intersection waving down the car and being like, which house do you live in? Where are you at? We're gonna have a meeting. They'd put up flyers and be like, emergency community meeting.
Starting point is 01:58:08 And then we would make determinations on where the barriers go up, who's going to be working watch, who is our law enforcement. I think we'd be pretty good. Every single person is going to be like, here's who I am, here's my name, here's my family. Know us.
Starting point is 01:58:24 You know, we'll have a passcode for the neighborhood everybody's armed we don't have a whole lot to worry about and the preppers will be so excited because it's what they've been waiting for this whole time i don't think they'll be excited at all i think it'll just be like another monday who else who else here at the castle has night vision besides me and you tim who else has got it dude in the in what is it after the collapse of the united states in the middle of the mountains the man with night vision is king you know no joke no joke especially if you've got dual tubes then you can walk through the woods without falling on your i got those and imagine it's a new moon it's pitch black outside there's limited light you by yourself
Starting point is 01:59:02 can can take over properties and and it's just night vision's no joke it's i was reading about how uh u.s military superiority a lot of it is based on night vision yeah going into like the middle east where these people can't see anything in the dark and they walk through like it's daytime yep no like man night vision night vision dual tubes are good for like if you have to move around and then if you if you're gonna like just like check out a position get thermal but thermal is no good for when you're moving around because you can't see stuff but thermal you can see if there's anyone there and the night vision will go ahead and get you there so cool technology dnb says tim your only net positive taxpayers can vote is a great idea until something happens that leads to only the rich world i can make forum types able to vote bad idea no because
Starting point is 01:59:45 they would have to then allocate their tax money to you otherwise if they don't you become a net tax net taxpayer so it's possible what they do then is they say so so imagine this way let's say there's five billionaires and they say all right we're going to implement a tax on at x percent let's say only they pay it and they're all paying one billion dollars so five billion dollars goes into the tax coffer that divided amongst all of the people gives them a couple dollars in tax liability in in tax benefit meaning if you then pay five dollars in taxes you're now a net taxpayer and you get to vote so it's an interesting idea i don't know i don't know if it does work but that is not a reason why it would not it would have to be like
Starting point is 02:00:35 if there's a hundred million people paying taxes and 250 who aren't then those hundred million can vote but if there's 100 million vote to take away, to lower taxes, because they don't want to pay them, that makes more net taxpayers who can vote. So eventually you'll find an equilibrium. Yeah, being a billionaire won't save you. All right, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, become a member at TimCast.com, and buy Cast Brew Coffee at Casper.com. You can follow the show at TimCast IRL. You can follow me at TimCast Kingsley.
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