Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #785 DeSantis Informally Announces 2024 Presidential Run On Twitter Video w/Warren Davidson

Episode Date: May 24, 2023

Tim, Ian, Seamus, & Serge join Rep. Warren Davidson to discuss Ron DeSantis informally announcing his 2024 presidential run, Target facing backlash over children's pride merch, the governor of Montana signing a bill that defines male & female, and another Hunter Biden whistleblower coming forward. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Now, OK, that's fine. We got the news. The information leaks. Elon Musk confirms he's having a very special interview tomorrow with a big announcement. But then the DeSantis team put out a video which basically is them saying they're launching the campaign, saying text launch to this number. And I think that kind of spiked their own news story. But OK, fine, whatever. It's it's not legal, but it's official, I suppose. Tomorrow will be the official legal announcement where then they are subject to all these laws. But as of today, we know for a fact DeSantis, Casey DeSantis, has put out a video basically saying Ron DeSantis is running for president. So here we go. Now, I want to talk about something else. Target held an emergency meeting and they're going to be moving all of their LGBTQ materials

and sales products to the back of the store and in a bunch of locations because they're panicking over a potential, quote, Bud Light situation as parents are concerned because Target is selling, let's just like chest binder materials for children and tucking bathing suits for kids and things like that. And so not too happy about that. So we got that. We got a lot of stuff to talk about. Plus, we could probably talk about Ukraine and Russia, Belgrade. Before we get started, my friends, head over to castbrew.com and pick up your cast brew coffee. Look at this delicious and beautiful Appalachian Knights. Man, I really do

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Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Representative Warren Davidson. Hey, it's an honor to join you all. Love it. You want to pull that mic up a little bit? Yeah, sure. So who are you? We know that you're in Congress. Yeah, so Congressman Warren Davidson. I'm from Southwest Ohio. The district goes the west side of Cincinnati from the Ohio River about a third of the way up the state. So I don't have either Cincinnati or Dayton in the district,

but kind of that part of our state. I came into Congress after John Boehner resigned and won a special election. At that time, I was a manufacturing guy. I had a group of small manufacturing companies. And then prior to that, I was in the Army. So I enlisted in the Army out of high school, got sent over to Germany when the Cold War was going on. I was over there when the wall came down um right on got to go to west point from there

served in ranger regiment as an officer uh so army ranger business guy basically when i first ran and in congress i'm on financial services and foreign affairs and you're a big crypto guy so that's good probably the most knowledgeable member of congress i'd imagine. Certainly one of them. We've been working hard to get, I mean, I've been trying to get a bill passed since 2017. Seems like it would have really helped a lot. A lot of things could have been averted, but maybe this year will be the year. Right on. Well, thanks for hanging out. We got Seamus Coghlan joining us.

My name is Seamus Coghlan. I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes where we make animated cartoons, and I just released one today about our friend Tim Pool over here. I think you guys will like it if you go over there and watch that. It's a very enjoyable cartoon to make. I think it's an enjoyable one to watch. Tim seemed to enjoy it. He tweeted it out.

I also have a podcast called Shamer. I stream on Tuesdays and Thursdays at 6 p.m. Eastern. That's over on Rumble. We just streamed today. I thought I had a great conversation with Will Noland. Hey, buddy. Ian Crossland. Good to see you, Seamus.

Great to see you, man. Glad to be back. Good to meet you, man. Likewise. I'm invigorated by all this talk about crypto. Maybe we can talk about that tonight because I know we got a lot of nutty stuff going on. And if you guys want to follow me,

Ian Crossland, everywhere on social media, I'd be happy to get in touch with you there. We also have Mr. Dupreya on my right. Yes. Mr. Dotcom, I'm enjoying this coffee. Thank you for the brew. Oh, yeah, that's Appalachian Nights. It's quite good.

Yeah, I'm a fan so far. I'm at Serge.com, everyone on the internet, ready for the show whenever you are. Let's jump into this first story from Timcast.com. Casey DeSantis teases Governor DeSantis' presidential campaign, big if true. Here's the video. They say they call it faith

because in the face of darkness, you can see the brighter future. Let. Here's the video. They say they call it faith because in the face of darkness you can see the brighter future. Let's just play the video so y'all can see it for yourselves. You ready for this? Here we go. Is the audio right? Maybe we got the audio right? They call it faith because in the face of darkness you can see that brighter future. A faith

that our best days lay ahead of us. But is it worth the fight do i have the courage is it worth the sacrifice america has been worth it every single time text launch to five one two three four five five one two three four five that's the video Text LAUNCH to 512345. 512345. That's the video. And I feel like this is taking a bit of the wind out of their sails. Casey DeSantis also tweeted out, Big if true, in reference to this story from Fox News,

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis to announce candidacy for president Wednesday on Twitter sources. So we all knew it was coming. And tomorrow, Ron DeSantis is supposed, or for those that are listening to us later, later today, our Ron DeSantis is going to be doing an interview with Elon Musk on Twitter. And they're going to he's going to announce he is running for the president for the presidency. So we know he is now. I think putting out this story and putting out that tweet pulled a lot of the wind out of their sales. I can understand leaking a little bit like expectation may happen. Tune in. Don't miss the show.

But tweeting out that video basically just announced it. And I feel like that's going to Elon Musk going to have the interview. And then what's going to end up happening is there's going to be a good amount of people, maybe 20, 20, 30 percent of people who have normally watched the Twitter space are going to be like, oh, I know already. They put that video out. It's a text launch. We get it. We get it. So I don't know.

What do you guys think? A lot of people are ragging on him already. A lot of the Trump people genuinely are upset about this. I'm going to say it outright. I think the people who are upset at Ron DeSantis are scared of him. I do think that this is kind of an example that he needs a better marketing team. No offense, guys, if you're listening right now, but you just stomped on your own fire. You should have let Elon make the noise for you so that everyone went back and watched that Elon interview over and over again.

And this is like coming off the heels a couple of weeks ago. I think you, Tim, on Twitter, you had some issues with his marketing team also. Where was that? Yeah, they got me because I tweeted about Jazz Jennings and I was like, why are they so mad? Yeah. No, I think people will still go back to back to the elon musk interview it's still gonna be a big deal i just think this pulled a little bit of the wind out of the sails and that's talking about it's pulling more more wind out of it so that this okay so i'll tell you right

now we originally the the original title of this was going to be um target emergency meeting they're pulling back this big boycott bud light we're winning and then it's i'm looking at the news and it's like they basically announced also okay well there it is that's the story the announcement video was shot from underneath him to make him look large obviously that's a bit manipulative they should have used some slow motion with a few cuts to give some action because it was a very slow boring video that's just more of an artistic critique look i think this is the biggest non-surprise ever. I do think a lot of people are going to watch Elon Musk's announcement tomorrow night. And look, the race is ultimately going to be Donald Trump versus Ron DeSantis. I think it

can be healthy. We just got to stay focused on beating Democrats. You know, a lot of folks back home, pretty confident Donald Trump's going to win the primary. And they want to see the competition, you know, at some level. But they also want everybody to stay focused on beating Democrats instead of beating each other up. Yeah. The other aspect of it is I'm very glad Ron's running. So as critical as I'm going to be about the way that they're announcing, I like more competition. I think we need that. We need more Democrats, RFK and Biden. We need to see those guys debating. We need to see Trump and DeSantis debating. I'm very happy about it. he is at just ripping these people to shreds. It's one of his very strong talents. Yeah. And you just wonder if Ron gets in the ring with Trump, is this going to have lasting

damage to his political brand? Yeah, I think that's the fear for anybody. I mean, particularly, you know, getting to crossways with Donald Trump, hard to avoid because those are the tactics Donald Trump uses. He goes after the person. He doesn't really go after the argument and it's worked pretty well for him. I guess the hope for a lot of people is that he can kind of work his message in a different way, because that's, I think, the key to appealing to like suburban women, convincing people that he really is going to be able to flip states like Arizona and Wisconsin again and get the win. And, you know, people are saying, oh, well, that's the that's the appeal of the Santas. We think Trump maybe can't win. And, you know, people are saying, oh, well, that's the appeal of the

Santas. We think Trump maybe can't win. Well, the competition will prove it and potentially solidify Trump. And if it doesn't, hey, who knows where we go? What are your feelings like personally between these guys and just the Republican Party in general, like for president? I mean, I haven't endorsed anybody in the race so far. Personally, I love both of them. You know, when I first came to Congress, I mean, when you come in in a special election, I came in in June. So it wasn't like everyone else was coming in. I'm like the new kid. And when you come in, you have to make a speech. And like, literally, you go down and you address from the floor of the house, all of your new colleagues. And okay, it's only on C-SPAN, but it's kind of a big deal.

And so big crowd comes in after, you know, take the oath of office and flow through. I make it to the back of where the Freedom Caucus and some of the people that I had gotten to know already were. And this guy comes up to me, he goes, you know, hey, I'm Ron DeSantis. You're from Troy, Ohio, right? And I go, yeah. And I didn't, it's like, I thought it was neat that he knew where I was from. He goes, my wife Casey's from Troy, Ohio. So? And I go, yeah. And I didn't, it's like, I thought it was neat that he knew where I was from. He goes, my wife, Casey's from Troy, Ohio. So she literally graduated from the same high school as my daughter graduated from, kind of small world stuff. Interesting. Her dad was the optometrist in the town square. So I liked it as Santa's people. I hope that everything stays friendly. I would be happy if Rhonda Santas was president. I certainly was happy when Donald Trump was president and I'm confident he would do a great job again. Yeah. I would be happy if Ron DeSantis was president. I certainly was happy when Donald Trump was president, and I'm confident he would do a

great job again. Yeah, I'd be happy if Ron DeSantis was president. I'd prefer Donald Trump. I think Trump's going to go and get revenge, fire a lot of people. I think Ron DeSantis goes in and shakes a lot of hands. I think policy-wise, Ron is doing a lot of things that help America in a lot of ways, but I wonder if that's what we need right now well look one of the things he did as a governor is i mean he inspired governors to be better than they would have been otherwise in a lot of states exactly i wish you helped look yeah well donald trump inspired a lot of governors to do that and ron de sanis look oh i see would not have had it backwards yeah yeah ron de sanis would not have. And I think he'll be clear on that.

He would not have won without the support of Donald Trump. But as governor, he did his own thing and did it really well. And I think it's inspiring. He's a pretty young guy. He's younger than me. I think at some point he's got the potential to be president. But just like you said, Seamus, hopefully if he doesn't get derailed, right? Yeah, well, and you mentioned that he couldn't have won without Trump's endorsement.

That's certainly true. The first time he won, he just barely squeaked past but we have to acknowledge that his next victory after that was an absolute landslide i mean he turned florida from vaguely purple to dark red he crushed it there i think he's done a lot of good i definitely hear everyone's concerns i mean if this was a question between de santis being president and trump being president i'm a happy man, right? But then there's the question of who's most likely to defeat the Democrats in a national election. That's tough.

I see a lot of people saying that. Look, I've seen the polls. The polls are very favorable for Donald Trump. But I've also talked to people out just in the streets, in the cities. And the general conversation is they groan when it comes to Donald Trump, the moderates and the independents, I mean to say. And the sentiment seems to be like DeSantis is a normal guy. This is why I think Elon Musk is doing this interview with him because Elon Musk said something like,

I just want a normal person to be president or something like that. So I think Elon does want Ron DeSantis to win. Yeah, whatever that means. But what I was saying before when I said, I don't know if we need that right now in reference to good policy of course we always need good policy but i think what we desperately desperately read night desperate desperately need right now there we go i got it is a purging of the corruption well exactly and this is something that it's important to really pay attention to which is throughout the entire trump presidency

his rhetoric and his tactics and the way he interacted with the elite was much more criticized by media than were his policies. Just as you mentioned, where Trump will go after people and not necessarily policies, and though I'm sure you'd agree with me, he does go after policy often as well. The media was almost always attacking Trump as an individual. Sometimes they'd go after his appointments. That was pretty popular. Sometimes they'd go after a policy or they'd say, we're upset that he pulled out of the Paris Accord. But often it was the rhetoric in this speech was damaging or the way he speaks about people in the media makes them feel unsafe or whatever they were bloviating about. And so

that's part of why I think those are the things we should love about Trump, because those are the things that terrify our enemies. He rosie o'donnell a fat pig which is like not a good thing to say right it's terrible but um i think overall and i'm not saying that there are not valid critiques to make of donald trump's rhetoric but what i am saying is there were times where he was so unbelievably on the money in a way that i have never seen another politician be capable of right when? When he said, I'm the president for Pittsburgh and not Paris. I mean, nailed it. Nailed it. You look at the drain the swamp rhetoric, you know, what you're saying, Tim.

Look, that was a phrase that, look, it sums up. If that meant a lot in 2016, if it meant something in 2022, post-Durham report, when you look at this, drain the swamp is going to be the theme. You look at Elon Musk. I mean, he bought a crime scene. The question is, what are we going to do about it? That's a very good way of putting it. He bought a crime scene.

He did. All the evidence is there that they were suppressing information. I mean, if a foreign government had done what Twitter did, we'd be calling it an act of war. 100%. And kudos to thomas massey who coined the they bought a crime scene phrase okay yeah good for him the problem with draining the swamp is that i think that the swamp is clogged i don't think i don't think it can be drained without some serious uh that's why i'm saying charming but he tried last time and he just he

just but it's basically stood there and looked at it there's a difference between a first and a second term and i think trump underestimated the swamp and i think he comes into a second term and he just says there's nothing i've got the snake there's nothing holding him back anymore no i think that schedule f story was real yeah i think i think ronda sandis gets in and says look guys let's let's shake hands and figure something out together and then it's just but schedule f you think realistically that because my my fear and thought is that if any president went in and they're like all right schedule f i'm firing all the heads of all the agencies the alphabets all these administrators you're fired the cia would just have them killed like that and then no one would get fired that's my thought you mean

like jfk yeah i don't i don't i don't i don't i don't i don't think so i think they did that back in the day but i think when you look at jul Assange, you can see their tactics have changed. So when you look at Trump's first presidency, what did they do? They accused him of being a Soviet spy. Now they're trying to accuse him of rape. And so you're seeing Democrats now using the E. Jean Carroll story as definitive confirmation, even though there's no evidence of anything. It's insane.

So character assassination is the tactic and then they're trying to make it illegal for him to run i mean that's i haven't been following the story the last couple weeks but what's been going on in that venue have you like since they were well they're they're they're going after him in new york for criminal charges which we know about he's apparently going to be facing new criminal charges in march of next year they're already talking about that. Federal level, you've got the classified documents. Georgia, you've got election interference.

They're just going to throw whatever they can at him. They're going to use every procedural manipulation to try and stop him. I'm not sure they're going to be able to pull it off. That's it. And then if something bad happens to Trump, I think this country just implodes. If you look at the hardcore Trump supporter, you know, indicting Trump or convicting Trump

isn't really going to change their support. But if you look at the people that are already kind of on the fence, you know, there's almost no one that doesn't have an opinion at all on Trump. I mean, he's got 100% name ID and 99.9% people have a pretty fixed opinion of him. So how does he move those people? And I think they just keep building negative, building negative, building negative. And that is the tactic, like you were saying. And it's been working, you know.

And so the question is, but you look at Ohio, you know, Donald Trump, his message was built for Ohio. Everything about it. I mean, I got to be on Air Force One ahead of the election with him and showing stuff. People did like a three-hour long tractor parade. And he was just blown away. It's like, who would think these people like a billionaire from new york i'm like they don't just like you they love you like no one made this to happen it wasn't a campaign event it was just organic and that kind of support is still there amongst the base but the question is when you go into places like you know the suburbs uh you know places like uh pennsylvania places like wisconsin can you flip pennsylvania places like wisconsin

can you flip pennsylvania wisconsin michigan again can you still hold arizona i mean that's going to be the decider in this election man i'm i i feel like uh oh hey hi good to see you um i'm so concerned with votes being tallied on machines in private with proprietary software code but but did you hear arizona's banning electronic voting machines oh based no that's based yeah they uh they said unless they're manufactured here in the u.s and the source code is public it's gotta be i'll free the code yeah dude i gave you a shout out early when i was reading the news and they said they can use them as long as the source code is public and it's made in the United States. I was like, public source, public code?

Well, there it is. Now we should actively create one of those and use it in Arizona instead of just revert. Yeah. And Dominion said that they were going to be going out of business or building your voting machines here in the united states with open source code why would you not choose the latter why would you just be like oh i guess we go out of business especially if you just got a 700 million dollar plus up yeah yeah fox so they didn't say i guess it was an interview and the guy didn't say explicitly that's it we're done for he said based on the damage we think we're headed towards the

drain that reputational damage is is is too much they're afraid of the name recognition they need to change their name just like uh blackwater did i think i think monsanto got bought by bayer because they didn't like the name is that coming for bud light oh probably a b i think every every state should do what arizona did and say look we don't care about, you want out of this one? I tell you, it's really simple. The left is complaining about the right because, you know, Carrie Lake is filing these lawsuits. And they say, you won't get over 2020. I'm like, all right, all right, everybody slow down.

Here's an idea. No more foreign built voting machines. It doesn't even, like, I don't understand the argument against it. It's like, what, we got to spend money to get upgraded voting machines for election security? Everybody should be in favor of that. We make them here in America. That's American jobs, good working class jobs. We do open source codes that people have a right to see the code.

Why would any Democrat disagree with that? It's a requirement for all of our defense contracting. So why wouldn't it be for our voting system? Have you looked much into the blockchain for voting security? You know, blockchain really offers a lot of... Look, it's immutable, it's distributed ledger, it's a more secure way. I mean, frankly, the most secure computing system is truly available with a proof of work kind of architecture. But a lot of people don't understand it, for one. And two, it really isn't scalable yet. But I think you're going to start seeing blockchain voting for shares.

So I think when you can do votes for things like shares that way, you will eventually see blockchain as an immutable record of what happened. And you can audit it. It's fully audible. Everyone could download a node. If you want to track the election in your state, download the node. You see everything. All the code is there.

It would be a great way to run the election in your state download the node you see everything all the code is there it would be a great way to run an election i want to i want to just do a hard segue into the the cultural stories because this this target news was really big and um i'm really excited this is a white pill moment for everybody this is hope and optimism target makes emergency calls after backlash to quote tuck friendly bathing suits and other Pride products, the company is terrified of a Bud Light situation, a Target insider told Fox News. The company's LGBTQ-themed items were released this month and include tuck-friendly bathing suits, chest binders, and packing underwear along with gender-fluid mugs and other things. And I'm pretty sure this was like for children is what the big issue was consumers called for a boycott

of target over the products taking issue with the swimwear as well as pride themed children's clothing including onesies t-shirts socks and swim skirts with a tag rating thoughtfully fit on multiple body types and gender expressions target also says a collection of children's books focus on lgbtq issues target is evil if a company targets kids that company shouldn't exist bud liked them to the conservative media personality personality liz wheeler matt walsh of course was saying this is worse than anything bud light has done of course and so the reporting apparently is that we have this from the post-millennial target to move pride merch to the back of stores to avoid Bud Light situation.

Quote, we were given 36 hours to take all of our pride stuff, the entire section, and move it into a section that's a third of the size. That's amazing. Bud Light is seeing another major drop in sales. They're nearly 30% down year over year. You love to see it. It's getting worse and worse for them. Conservatives simply said, we have. You love to see it. It's getting worse and worse for them. Conservatives simply said,

we have no brand loyalty to Bud Light. This is the scariest thing in the world for the biggest brands. There's no brand loyalty to Target. Nobody's walking around wearing Target shirts being like, yeah, go Target. Bud Light at least had some brand recognition with sports and that didn't do anything for them. So when it comes to your choice between Target and Walmart,

if people are going to be like, Target's bad, we won't go there, it's not a big deal to shop somewhere else. I really hope that conservatives stick to this, because a few years ago we saw a similar attempt to boycott Target when they were saying we're going to allow men to use the women's room and abdicate our responsibility to protect female patrons in our stores and conservatives said i'm never shopping at target again and then many of them started shopping at target again so i hope that this is truly a bridge too far and that people are going to stick to it

this time i would also say that if this isn't stuck to it's going to set a very bad precedent right because people are seeing this as the sort of sequel to the Bud Light boycott. And if it falls apart here, that's going to say a lot about the power of conservatives as protesters or as boycotters of products. Honestly, I don't think you really need to identify as conservative to have issues with child sex changes. I'm not that conservative really in life, but little kids that are getting their parents are like cutting their body parts off and stuff like that.

Just as a human, I kind of wonder what in the hell is going on. Tim's cracking a beer. What was that? Ian? I didn't, I couldn't hear what you were saying as I was pulling out this wonderful stud light lager.

If anybody would like a stud light, feel free to grab a can. This is no joke. I don't know if you can see it. That's hilarious. Stud Light. Stud Light. And there's a cowboy on it with a horse. And it's from Harvest Gap Brewery in Hillsborough, Virginia.

That's hilarious. So we were just driving past this brewery, and we walked in. Here you are. And I noticed they had something called Stud Light. That's hilarious. Oh, that's really good. I'm not a big beer drinker, but I had no choice but to buy a beer called Stud Light with a manly cowboy on it.

Because I have to wonder. I'm not saying the brewery did anything to... You want to just grab one? Here you go. Plus, we've got a bunch down there. I'm not saying that... I don't know if this brewery made this intentionally because of what was happening.

But to see that they've got stud light and there's a cowboy on it, I was like I kind of feel like they're having fun. And it's a light lager and it's pretty good. But anyway, I just thought it would be funny if we just cracked some light lager, and it's pretty good. But anyway, I just thought it'd be funny if we just cracked some open.

If you look at Bud Light's market, though, I mean, you know, what Ian was talking about, just to be offended by targeting kids for this, is a whole different cross-section

than just conservatives. But if you look at who shops at Target, it's not as much like who buys your stuff at Target. I mean, a little bit of everybody. But who drinks Bud Light? I mean, the people that used to drink Bud Light aren't going to go along with this whole trans movement kind of Dylan Mulvaney kind of thing.

And they're also not going to buy it was an April Fool's joke. And so Bud Light made a bad situation worse by not owning it yeah and and now okay their esg score took a tally instead of owning that they're still trying to to oh but see but we can do everything and it's like no man this is a t intersection you're gonna have to pick you can either keep the people that used to drink bud light or you can go woke i think the thing with the bud light and target is that target has it is smart of them to panic in the way they're panicking. Yeah. And they should probably just remove these products because the left will try and lie.

But look, I don't care what an adult wants to do. You know, Seamus and I will have a disagreement on this. Like, I don't care about someone who's LGBTQ or whatever. Privacy of your own home. These are all the old traditional arguments from liberals. You live your life. You be happy. We mind our own business.

Keep the kids out of it. They're now trying to argue that the LGBTQ stuff is not inherently sexual. It's quite literally what it is. LGBT quite literally are references to sexual identities and sexualities. There's no reason for you to bring that to children. This is what Target is doing. They should not be doing that. Here's what I think. Bud Light loses about 25% of its market with this whole stunt, and they're not going to get it back. They may still see growth because new people enter the market and population is, well, if the population expands,

if it doesn't, then they're going to lose more drinkers. But I don't think it'll go to zero, right? They've seen about a 30% drop off so far. It's like 28% or something like that. These are the people who pay attention, who don't want to drink Bud Light, don't want to be seen drinking Bud Light. It's a lot of people who don't care they don't watch the news they don't they're not on twitter they're not on the internet they just went to the they went to the liquor

store to get some beer and they said bud lights half off and they went wow me and my buddies want to get drunk we'll take it half off some people might even know and just be like don't know don't care cheap beer with target i think you'll see something similar. A lot of people who know will just say, I will not shop there anymore. That's why Target is freaking out. Not because they're going to go out of business, but because they could lose 30% of their customers in a month. And that's bad news. I agree with basically everything you're saying. There's just one thing I'd probably phrase differently.

And I think you'd actually agree with me on this when you said there's no reason for them to be introducing the sexual stuff to children we know there's a reason and we know what the reason is it's because they want to groom these kids yeah target i think the people at target who are trying to normalize this yeah there's there's an entire effort within our systems to push sexually perverse behaviors onto children it's they're owned by vanguard blackrock state street these companies keep popping up any up. Any of these publicly traded things. I mean, those three corporations, BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street, own like 24% of Target. They are pushing an agenda.

I completely agree with you, Seamus. And it is bad. Look, my kids are at a point where I never thought, gee, we need to cover boys are different than girls and all that stuff. It's pretty intuitive. But we're at an age where they're very overtly introducing this to kids. And people say, well, gender is a spectrum and it's totally different than sex. No, you're given cross-sex hormones.

You're using cross-sex pronouns. And the surgeries that you want to do, including to minors, are on the sexually distinctive physical attributes of your anatomy you cannot change you're either an xy person male or an xx person you can't change your bone structure everything else you can't change those attributes with rare exception yeah with like point it's out there there are some uh there's some there's some variance but that's not what we're having this debate about right and those sections that target and you know the whole transgenderism movement that's going on in the country spreading all over the place isn't the traditional you know cross uh you know issue with hormones

that come their dna chromosome uh issues that you're talking about so look xy people they're different than xx people everyone has gotten that for all of time until very recently. Yeah, no, absolutely. You mentioned this point about us having to debate the differences between boys and girls and you not thinking you'd be at this point. I feel similarly. I first became interested in politics when I was about eight years old because I learned what abortion was.

And it was so shocking to me that anyone could consider that a morally acceptable thing or that it would be legal and so i've been interested in these things from a very early age and i had some hope as a kid that by the time i was an adult if i ever had any kind of political career or career in commentary we would have moved on to other issues and society might have progressed of course my optimism was misplaced here we are 20 years later and we're we're debating the differences between boys and girls literally well i don't i don't we've completely regressed i don't think we're debating them i think there is a cult that will lie cheat and steal so they'll come to you and pretend like there's a debate

to trick you into debating them because they know that you'll operate in good faith to debate those ideas interesting meanwhile i mean look i know i think there's truth in that it's the video of jack posoba getting punched by the leftist and then when the cops pull up because the cops watch it happen the leftists one of them goes i didn't see anything happen they're just lying about everything they know the difference between boys and girls they're just trying to destroy the system it seems seems like, yeah, when you disrupt the system, it's the person that's the most powerful that suffers the most. So if you cut everybody's value by 5%, it's the one with the most value that's going to lose the most,

because 5% of the most is more than 5% of less than that. So COVID shut down the entire world. The United States probably suffered the most because it was doing the best. And now we've got the disruption of the youth of the psychology of the youth the united states has the most to lose because it's the leader of the planet and i don't think it's i don't think it's an accident man it's a global internet when you cut off the tall grass the short grass stays where it is i i'm gonna i'm gonna slightly push back against both things i hear what you're saying

and i think i i agree overall but when it comes to who can suffer the most, so for example, you're right that someone who's extremely wealthy and loses 5% of their wealth has lost more material wealth, technically speaking. But if a poor person is living paycheck to paycheck, and then they lose 5% of their wealth, maybe they can't afford to pay rent anymore. And similarly, we saw during COVID, the UN increased the number of people projected to be at risk for starvation in the third world by like 130 million. So there are certain things that Western countries can tolerate that poorer countries can't. And that's actually part of why you see it here, right? Because we are so wealthy that we've been able to insulate ourselves from natural

consequences for decades. If you had a poor society, the sexual revolution would have fallen apart almost immediately. Because what happens when a man starts impregnating women and then he doesn't care for those children, right? I mean, it's social and economic pandemonium. And very wealthy nations can insulate themselves from that for a little while. Leftism only exists in wealthy nations. That's right. That's exactly it. The woke mind virus, as Elon Musk kind of tagged it,

is really only in affluent countries. There's no like big woke mind virus spreading all over Africa. They're not transgender outbreaks all over the global South. It's in affluent countries. It's, you know, I talked about this too a while ago when I said feminism can only exist in an empire's sphere. The United States is desperately like if the women die, we are wiped out as a civilization. So the women are protected.

Keep them in homes, keep them in the camps around them. You get to the point where you have a very strong military, a very expansive country. Crime gets goes way down and we start exuding military force out of the country. And so we face very little threats from within. Then all of a sudden there's nothing to worry about with women reaching higher positions in government. I know this one probably triggers the feminist, but this is why you don't see these things, like you mentioned, in other parts of the world where they are less affluent, less safe, less secure. Very true.

If we lived in a violent society where people got attacked and shot at and stabbed and raped outside just walking down the street, it would be risky to send your wife out to the grocery store. It wouldn't happen as much. The guy would be the one that did that it still is it still is a trope of don't walk down a dark alley and the feminists have been trying there's this weird inflection point where crime was down enough to where the left started saying stop victim blaming but for the longest time we would tell people don't go walk through a dark alley at night and women should be should be worried despite the fact that men are more likely to be victims of violent crime it's also true that men are more likely to physic to be

able to physically defend themselves from another man and but it's but it's not just about men i'm talking about wild animals and just general danger if you go way back to humans and try in the tribal in a tribal era if 90 if you have a tribe if you have 100 men and 100 women and 99 women die that tribe ceases to exist if 99 men die they'll struggle but they'll probably be okay well it's not even just a calculation right it's men caring about the women in their lives and recognizing because they're not insulated from the consequences of their actions by an unfathomable amount of wealth that men and women do have to be in different roles in order to be maximally safe. And so this is something that you have to be unbelievably wealthy to even start to consider as a society.

The idea that you would start to swap roles between men and women. When you're living in a state of nature, right? When you're one bad harvest away from your entire family starving, you're not preoccupied with whether you were called bossy when a man would have been called assertive. It's not even a question. And it's not to say that a society where people are worried about starving all the time is better. However, I will say there's no argument to be made that those people aren't stronger and more virtuous than we are today. And I'll also add that we could have the best of both worlds if people were capable of living with wealth while still having a spirit of poverty. There's no generational memory that's the problem we we cannot we we don't know what it's like to to you know be preparing for

harvest some people do but you know in the united states and to say we've only three months of food prepared for the winter yeah we're in trouble we're going to have to eat less and hunt more if we're going to make it through this one. Yeah. And I mean, if you look on balance, I mean, one of my favorite sites out there is like humanprogress.org. Everyone's like, oh, you know, we got too many people. We're never going to make it. You know, the Malthusians were saying that forever. They were wrong. On balance, human progress is great. Innovation's given us lots of flexibility. But the question is, how do we keep the ties that bind us? I mean, you know, part of our motto is this idea of e pluribus unum.

And part of the way that you teach that is values and culture, shared values. And you think about how easy it was. You go back to, you know, what you guys are talking about, the state of nature. If everyone could live by just a basic truth of don't hurt people and don't take their stuff, we would really not even need government, right? Everything would work just fine. And because people can't abide by that simple maxim, well, somebody's got to be the judge of, well, who was wrong to hurt whoever here? And look at how much government we have now versus how little we could have if people could simply

not hurt one another or take their stuff. We have a constitution that's supposed to have a limited form of government, but now we have far more government than will fit within our constitution. And I think the challenge today is how do we get a government small enough to fit back in the constitution because we can afford a government that small. I think just conflict will emerge. Conflict will emerge conflict will emerge i think that uh we we look at things that are um we look at hard times as bad things but i don't think they are i think there needs to be a balance between the good times and the bad times to create strong well-balanced individuals who are capable of surviving hard times and i feel like you know there's a saying uh good times make weak men weak

men you know hard times etc but i also feel like it's kind of swinging back and forth like a pendulum increasing the amount of energy each time you get a good time then you get weak men which give you a hard time and then it keeps swinging back and forth in terms of the the the of how extreme it gets what i'm trying to say is right now we are dealing with a very serious crisis in the United States and in other parts of the world with actual war. We have many, many, many weak men. In fact, I think this country is the overwhelming majority of men in this country are weak. For example, in New York, Daniel Penny defends people on a train. Did anybody in New York come out with signs to protest for Daniel Penny? Maybe a couple here and there. But was there like a big march where the police were

yelling at them and they're blocking cars saying he's a hero? No, we don't see that. We do, however, see a lot of people putting up a lot of money, which for a lot of people can be even more courageous if you're seriously, if you're saying like, I'm going to take a portion of my resources and allocate to defending this man. So my point is not that there are no strong men or strong people, but then in places like New York, in these big cities, you are more likely to see people say, I better keep my head down and not engage. And I was saying this to Glenn Beck earlier. I don't think the problem is that evil exists. I think the problem is that good men do nothing. Yeah. It's a great quote for a reason.

And you go back to the Declaration of Independence, you know, they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor because that's what it takes to defend a country. And that's, look, we're only the land of the free if we are, in fact, the home of the brave. And it does take courage, whether it's to cut a check, to show up to an event, to participate. You got to make the current system work or it is going to fail. Strength also is kind of like Darwin would say, it's not the strongest of the species that survives, but the most adaptable to change. It's the most adaptable humans that get by, which I think is why people aren't stepping up sometimes is because they want to just get by. want to fit in to survive but you know sometimes

you need people to break the mold i want to i want to jump to that i just kind of yeah i want to piggyback on that because i think that's a very very good point were you finished though i'm not sure okay so i think that's a very good point and one thing i would argue is that virtue is what makes you adaptable right a person who's living a life of vice is taking the path of least resistance and what they're doing is engaging in behaviors that feel good for them in the moment, rather than behaving rationally, making a long-term plan and behaving based on what's going to be good for them down the line. When you're able to do that, when you're able to use your rational faculties to like subordinate your

passions to what's going to be good for you in the long run you can adapt to many different kinds of situations but if you've made yourself uh custom simply to or accustomed simply to doing whatever feels good for you well once the dynamic changes you're going to have absolutely no idea how to interact with the world i want to jump to this story from timcast.com montana governor signs bill defining male and female. Governor Greg Gianforte was lobbied by his adult son to oppose Senate Bill 458 and other bills regulating gender issues. They say he signed Senate Bill 458 into law on May 19th. The bill states the term female refers to a member of the human species who under normal development has XX chromosomes and produces or would produce relatively large, relatively immobile gametes or eggs during her life cycle and has a reproductive and endocrine system oriented around the production of those gametes, including an individual who would otherwise fall within this definition,

but for a biological or genetic condition. Additionally, the state will not recognize male to mean a member of the human species who under normal development has XY chromosomes and produces or would produce small mobile gametes or sperm during his life cycle and has a reproductive and endocrine system oriented around the production of those gametes, including an individual who would otherwise fall within this definition, but for biological or genetic condition. So I'm curious if they include in this anything pertaining to intersex because there there are several different um genetic circumstances where a person may have x y chromosomes we totally appear totally female

and that's like androgen insensitivity disorder or syndrome or something like that so someone's biologically male but their body does not in any way react to testosterone so when they're born they look like girls and they grow up they look like girls and it's like hey wait a minute that's actually a guy whose testosterone never worked and then there's also people um there's a variety of uh syndromes where people could be xyy or xxy i'm wondering how it defines them yeah i will say however this is uh particularly interesting considering the transgender rep you know in in montana we uh mentioned mentioned in the article the bill was one of several gender-related policies passed during a contentious legislative session prompting a vitriolic protest from transgender identifying representative

zoe zephyr that led to an official censure the fact that we've come to the point where we have to define male and female is is is fascinating to me and me. And there was an article I was reading recently, I think it was the Daily Mail, that referred to a transgender male, that is somebody who is male, but wants to be a woman, as a female. And the media does this thing, which is very strange, where they will call males females and females male. I think that's why they have to do this. So what happens is, first, we say, we hear hear man is a social construct. Women is a social construct. You can be a biological male, but be a woman if you're trans. That's what the left argues. Then they started just once again changing the words and saying trans female. Now, if you're born male, but want to be female, they call you transgender female, which is not and never was the actual description of what the person was. Yeah, exactly. And so this is something I've noticed where conservatives are now shocked that the left has redefined male and female, which is perplexing to me because why would that be shocking when they redefine man and woman? Why would you think

they redefine those words, but they're not going to redefine male and female and strip them of all meaning? Well, of course they were going to. You can't like retreat into that linguistic territory and expect them not to muddle that up either. And we had Lance from the serfs, the leftist. I said, someone asked, what is a woman? And he says, easy, an adult human female. And I said, oh, okay. So trans women are not women.

He goes, no, they are. Trans women are female, he said. Yeah, I was just thinking about Lance. I'm like, that makes no sense. I explained to him that men that transitioned to be trans women are trans women and men at the same time. They don't stop being one to become the other. They become both.

And he was like, no, that's not what they think. But, but I think he was, he was telling me like what the current brainwashing is, is that they don't. But the reality is you never stop being human when you become a

trans man or a trans woman you're still a human you're still a man and now you're a trans woman and a man and a human but uh ian's completely right he's touching on something if you're an adult human male you're a man and then if you are transgender you're a trans woman but you are still an adult human male well oh sorry i just think that the definition is pretty good and it does get after what you say but for a biological or genetic condition. Yeah. So that would be the things that you were alluding to. So, you know, there's the interesting thing there then is there may be someone who presents completely as female because of like androgen insensitivity and has spent their whole life believing they're a woman only to find out when they're in their late 20s.

So what does that mean? Do they lose protections or are people going to see? I think I look forward to the day that we're back focused on that like 0.01, 0.005% of the population. I hope that's where we get back to. Because right now we're talking about it to the point where, oh, you have to introduce your five-year-old to this and buy them gear at Target. I mean, this is just a crazy place.

And it's on purpose, frankly, not for a lot of people that are struggling with it. I think the real question is, you know, why are so many people struggling with it? You know, so you went from in 2013 in the United States, I think there were two gender clinics and now you have hundreds, if not thousand plus of them all over the country. Like what happened? All of human history, you don't have this now suddenly it's everywhere i think the real question is why well there were also just two genders back then and now there's hundreds across the country social media is a big factor and i think endocrine disruptors are big are a big factor so i think i i i was wondering this you know i was listening to some old old rock and didn't it, am I

just wrong about this? That rock stars used to be a little bit older and gruffer and thicker. Like, I don't know. Men just seemed manlier back in the day. Dirty. Dirtier. Definitely dirtier. Yeah.

But maybe that's just how media, you know, portrayed people and now they're trying to change it or something. But there, there is a trope among millennials where they're like, you watch these old movies and you're like, wait a minute, that dude was 30. They look like they're 50. Why is it that everybody looks so much younger today? I'm wondering if endocrine disruptors have been screwing with us for the past couple of decades, the past few generations, because plastics are a new thing for human civilization. Plastics are a new thing for human civilization. Plastics and vaccines. I mean, if you look at RFK, RFK for, you know, the Democratic presidential candidate, he's talked about vaccines for a long time. You know, look, I got vaccinated against, I was in the army.

I mean, I didn't know that you could function as an adult without getting shots until I got out of the army. And my doctor said, oh, yeah, you don't actually need shots. But like every time I went to see a doctor i was getting vaccinated against something but if you look at kids that came up in this era over the past you know few decades they've never gone up in an era where they didn't have lots of vaccines some people say it's that i just think we should have an honest uh investigation as to yeah what did change i think i don't i wouldn't want to isolate just vaccines i think big pharma in general the amount of pills medications whatever you want to call it we're giving kids morearma in general the amount of pills medications whatever you want to call it we're giving kids more shots than ever we're giving them more pills than ever

we are we've got chemicals loaded up on our food something's happening yeah it's plastics it's birth control too people don't acknowledge that there's a lot of excess estrogen that just gets peed back out into the water supply i i was thinking like i learned about amphetamines and like dare and like third grade and i was learned about amphetamines and like dare and like third grade and i was like oh amphetamines are like they get you going there they get you speed they're they're nasty drugs like the gateway leads you to amphetamines amphetamines are the dark and then all of a sudden adderall it's an amphetamine and it's like it's i think it's like four different amphetamines or something like that like it's a combination and you're actually

considering giving those to children like you're not considering they do yeah so so it my point is when we're talking about first you know because the original subject was male and female and trans stuff i would not be surprised if well i will first say it is a fact look this up there was a birth control that masculine not mascul young girls because of the exposure to this birth control in women resulted in the female fetus becoming masculinized. And that we read about it on the show. So birth control is doing this. Then we also know that plastics are endocrine disruptors. That's why we use the glass bottles. And Liquid Death had a funny commercial recently about people getting plastic shoved in their bodies to make their butts bigger.

And they're like plastic surgery or whatever. It was funny. Because they're all about using aluminum cans instead of plastics because plastics are bad. But I do think a large component is social pressures, which is why we see typically it's like the overwhelming majority of trans kids are female because they're being pressured by social media but then i do think one of the reasons we're seeing some of this may just be people are suffering from endocrine disruption their bodies aren't producing the right hormones and the right right levels and this is not some right-wing conspiracy theory right the data has shown that testosterone has been decreasing

for the past few decades now this is a real problem i'm just learning about apparently when a man sees a woman comes into contact with a woman his testosterone spikes by 20 roughly this is some something i just learned i don't know if it's real or not but it sounds cool and so i'm wondering if all this interaction with women digitally like watching movies with women in it and watching porn for instance is getting this like the body stops producing the testosterone spike because it's not getting the reciprocity from the woman so it realizes like oh okay she's not really there she's not really there and then when you see a woman in real life she's not really there Like we're becoming adapted to not have this testosterone spike. I hear what you're saying, but I feel like that's way too,

that's too many leaps happening there. It's a long shot. If anything, looking at all these women would increase men's testosterone. You would think so. But then if it happens over and over and over and over, and you're not getting the value of the testosterone, the body might just stop doing it because it's like, well, there's at least a correlation between wealth and poverty, right?

So if you look, what's different in wealthy countries than in poor countries? And there are so many different things, but I do think that it'd be worthwhile subject. But today, I mean, look, this professor at Brown, she got canceled. She was one of the first cancel culture people in it. I mean, she's an atheist professor at Brown and she started going, well, what happens with like, okay, there's someone who's transgender. And then in their peer group, once one person identifies as transgender, lots of other people in that school or in that peer group start to identify as transgender too. And she coined it sudden onset

gender dysphoria because she wanted to investigate it and gave it a label. But the whole APA, Psychological Association, went after her, canceled her, got her unpublished and everything. She had written scholarly journals, and she was going at it from an academic perspective. They've literally worked to kill any serious academic study into, yeah, what does explain this? And it was just an intellectual curiosity, like, well, why is it all of a sudden spreading to other people versus, you know, the biological or genetical issues that were referenced in the Montana law? Yeah, well, this is also interesting too, right? Because they'll argue that this idea of social contagion is also a far-right conspiracy

theory. But the president of WPATH path which is like the leading transgender activism organization on the planet has acknowledged that social contagion is driving in some part the massive surge of kids who are now identifying as trans yeah you also call it peer pressure that's what we used to call in the 80s well isn't it so crazy that they would even try to get away with saying teens aren't doing things because of peer pressure of course they are dude how could you say there's this one category of behavior that's immune to peer pressure among teens it's also that's insane way for a kid to take control of their parents and their their the law basically control from their parents yeah if a 14 year old can be like now because i say this you all have to bow to me and i'm 13 but like what a power

surge for a young human to be able to be like all i bow to me and i'm 13 but like what a power surge for a young human to be able to be like all i gotta do is say i'm trans and then i can depending on the state the doctors will be like come right in and we'll have those old boys removed you can get like teachers fired if they don't don't agree with you you can get politicians fired like it's crazy at the amount of psychotic powers involved yes no it's true it'll always jump in social standing massively which is what young people want they want more social status it's not so much about social status and ian's point he's talking about authority and control but they're the same they're the same right the more social status you have the more control you have over the system

no i disagree like the most social status you could possibly have is to be in full control socially and legally i disagree um people want to just give you things be around you and you know in terms of authority you could be the most hated person in the world but everyone gives you stuff but i would say i would say that somebody who is in a position of legal authority but is hated has a lower social status than someone who's in a position of legal authority and who everybody loves i'm saying that they both play a role in social status like if our laws privilege a certain group of people they have a higher social status now like to a certain degree you can argue that people are attracted to someone of great governmental

wealth but there's a balance yeah if you are the ugliest most out of shape smelliest you know dude living in a basement all right i get it you can you can ian you can go out in new york and you can dress up in in a historical period according to new york law and they are forced to give you what you want you can force a massive multi-billion dollar corporation to do whatever you want that doesn't mean you have any good social status and that's kids in general that's the issue actually that people of no social status are going and exploiting the system well but i would say that if there are laws that are written that tell people they're not allowed to disagree with you there's social status in that right when our legal system privileges groups of people that everybody's privilege no one is

yeah 100 so if the law says anyone can do whatever they want there's no social status yeah but my argument is not that social stuff i understand that there has to be a differential like some people have to be lower in social status than others for like the legal question to apply. My point is simply that when one group of people are set aside by the law and said they have special privileges, that increases social status. But I'm talking about how the law does not protect a group of people. It's random. The New York City law says anything you do is protected. It's literally anything so the the a homeless person

of no social status has control in a system if they choose to that's not social status that's just a broken system i'm not so my initial response to what ian was saying is that creating these quote-unquote transgender protections boosts the social status of people who have that identity like that identified label what i'm trying to clarify is that's not the case you don't think so you don't think that that boosts their social status the fact that they go around telling people they have to use their pronouns that employers because anyone can do it for anything right so the law doesn't say you have to use someone's she her he and pronouns it says anyone who says anything has to be respected well

i'm just going to say in new york if you're, if you're a black man and defend anything conservative, then you must be a white supremacist. Right. So, I mean, I do think there's something, I don't know whether it's called social status or whatever, but you have all these people that it's like, if you step out of what they're, you know, one of my colleagues referred to somebody, you know, we don't need any more brown faces that aren't brown voices or black faces that aren't black voices or things like that. And it's like, well, you know, Tim Scott's like, I'm not supposed to talk, you know? And, and so there is this kind of, I don't know, heresy code. I don't know whether it's status or whatever, but kind of this whole kind of woke culture has got its own heresy code. There is no

doctrine of grace over there. You cross the line, you're canceled. And so I think to your point, yeah, there's a, but that's highly selective in terms of where you would even have status. I mean, some areas is not going to, your status goes even worse and maybe even in peril. When they say that anyone can dress in a historical period costume, they're not privileging transgender people. They are basically saying anyone can wear and dress and be called whatever they demand and you must adhere to it if they said if someone who is traditionally male appears in non-traditional you know or appears as female presents in female

stereotypical clothing using female names you cannot describe it on this basis that would be outlining just trans people but new york's, it's the weirdest thing I've ever seen. It says you can dress in historical period. Like those words actually appear in the law, which means you could dress up like a pirate in New York City and say, I'm pirate gender and it's protected.

Not even asking. And your pirates could be R and Métis. And that's not a group of people. Pirates are not protected, but they are now. That's my point. Pirates are not protected gender in New York City. You are a privileged class.

This is something that Jordan Peterson said in response to Bill C-16, which I thought was a great observation, which is that what a lot of these protection laws do is they enshrine a person's fashion choice as a legally protected identity. That's what I'm wondering. Could I go in in chain mail or plate mail? Yes. I identify as a knight from middle ages so so look i've brought this up time and time again where the the lawyers told me and i'll get left out of the courtroom but the new york civil rights law human rights commission says historical period i have no

idea why that's that's kind of insane it's not gender if i identify but it literally says it meaning you can put on a full plate armor and be like these are my clothes we talked about this a while ago right yeah and that's right we actually a lawyer on the show and they were basically saying that i think we were joking about wearing a fursuit or something and saying like that and he said i mean legally yeah but you'd probably get laughed out of the courtroom well no i talked to i talked to several human rights lawyers who told me that i so this is 2019 or whatever i I call a bunch of lawyers and I said, what would happen if someone did this? And they said, everyone knows the point of the law. You'd get laughed out of the courtroom.

The problem is now as they've expanded it, there's no way this makes sense when they added the words historical period. Because now you can dress up like I mentioned, put on a safari costume and a big white fake beard and call yourself the colonel. And they can't. That's protected. historical period is protected. Yeah. I think at some point, you know, a lot of the country's just like, yeah, we're going to move on. You guys go ahead and do that. And we're not going to go along with it. And that's kind of where this whole effort to counter that it goes with Bud Light. Like, man, we're just, you do it, go do your thing as an adult, whatever you are, but I'm not drinking Bud Light anymore. We talked about that last night.

How do you see the value and differential between political power and, I guess, private sector power? Well, there's obviously some sort of correlation between power and money, right? So I don't think that's new to our culture or any other place around the world. But if you look at influence, at some point, cultural influence really drives the world. But, you know, if you look at, if you look at, you know, influence, you know, at some point, cultural influence really drives the politics. I mean, a lot of times people say in a functioning democracy, you get the government you deserve, you get what you voted for. And people will get frustrated by what we get. And it's, it's hard to believe that, you know, you could have, you know, Marjorie Taylor Greene win 80% of the vote in her district.

And, you know, AOC win 80% of the vote in her district. And people love them both, but they're so very different. And I think that gets to, like, our Constitution actually is designed to have that kind of flexibility. But somehow in the era that we're in, there's this idea that everything has to be federalized. And I think that's the problem. It's like, yeah, you can actually do your thing in New York and do it your way. Ohio, we're not going to do that probably. And if you really want to, you could maybe do it in a certain area, but we're not going to change our laws like New York did. And Texas may do it totally different. But if you want to make it all one big federal policy

and just cram it down your throat, that's the tension. People are trying to seize power in Washington and impose their will on everyone else. Yeah, I think one massive problem with the direction the United States has gone and really over the past hundred years is to create an analogy, we've gone from a neighborhood to an apartment building. So when you're in a neighborhood, everyone has their own house, they have their own lawn, they can make decisions about their house. They can add something onto it, subtract something from it, have a garden, not have a garden, own chickens, whatever it is, right?

And you're all houses. You're all in the neighborhood. You all have the same zip code, but you're able to make decisions about your own property. There's some sovereignty. There might be an HOA that puts some limitations on it, but overall, you can make your own choice for your own property. Now, it's like the United States has become a condominium and each state is its own little condo and you're able to make decisions and it's technically your own property as a state or as the governor of a state or as the people of a state

but you're not fully sovereign because there's a certain pattern you have to follow so that you don't move outside of the status quo of what is like architecturally sound for that building. But Ron DeSantis was able to tell him to shove it during the COVID attempted shutdowns. So you would still consider him in the apartment complex, but just like... I would say he's starting to make moves out. Yeah, I would say that like he's sort of starting to shift the paradigm. Because what happens is when you have an incredibly strong federal government, each state becomes more affected by decisions made in other states in a way where they historically were not

when the government didn't have as much oversight or when the federal government didn't have as much oversight and so what i think desantis is doing and again analogies limp and where this one falls apart is that we can actually you know disassemble the condominium and put people back onto their own property. And I think governors like DeSantis move us in that direction by pulling away from federal oversight. I want to jump to another crazy story. Hard segue. We got this from the Daily Mail. Second Hunter Biden IRS whistleblower comes forward. Agent claimed he was passed over for promotion and removed from tax investigation team for claiming the president's son was getting preferential treatment. They say a new case agent who has not been identified since he was fired last week without any explanation after working on the Hunter Biden investigation since 2018. His complaint comes days after it was revealed the DOJ

removed his entire team, according to his supervisor. IRS Commissioner Daniel Werfel had told congress the agency wouldn't retaliate against whistleblowers in april so if you are the son of uh the president you get away with committing crimes if you're the son of this yeah i was gonna say right right because don jr couldn't get away with not committing crimes right right they were threatening him when you're trying to lock him up for literally nothing they put his face on time magazine wrote red handed and he didn't do anything you can't catch someone right-handed when they actually didn't do anything it's wild but this is how they lie right it has to be as far as possible from the truth it's not a small little

light it's not a white light we caught this guy doing something right-handed when they didn't even have evidence because nothing happened yeah nothing happened you know who has been caught red-handed all right the guy who has pictures smoking a crack pipe and then that's who's been caught red-handed look in the look not only did he get caught handed red-handed the the whole uh coalition of intelligence experts got caught red-handed concocting the story to cover for hunter biden's laptop yep and look kudos to tucker carlson for highlighting this in the 2020 election cycle but frankly it got dropped right away one of the guys in the middle of that tony babalensky uh came forward did the interview with tucker carlson and said look if it's russian disinformation how am i carbon copied on the

same email i got an email we were part of the same deal flow. Like, how did I wind up? This is true. I know this is true. And I told, you know, everyone at the time, look, I know Tony, I will vouch for this guy. He's telling you the truth. And the story was dead. Everyone killed it. And, you know, this is why what happened, what Matt Taibbi is working on it at Twitter and the Twitter files is so important because you see, they weren't just doing this at Twitter. They were doing this all over. And it might not be the exact same cast of characters that wrote the cover story for Hunter Biden's laptop, but it is the same coalition of three-letter agencies that are using the power of the government to cancel speech in America. And whether it was political speech or COVID speech, you still think back to like,

I mean, for me, I always like, you know, Dwight Eisenhower, big deal at West Point, big deal for the country, very successful general, I think very successful president and underappreciated. But his farewell address, he said, you know, cautioned against the military industrial complex. We saw that play out for a long time time used to be the left was anti-military industrial complex they can't get enough of it lately but the other thing he cautioned against was the scientific technical elite and if saint fauci doesn't epitomize the uh scientific technical elite look what was going on in the midst of all this stuff and at the center of dominating both of those are these three little agencies canceling and covering and

all for political influence operations for the left they accused a sitting president of treason and they targeted his family and now we have questions about what joe biden's doing and i tell you the way it feels to me what it feels like to me is this the nation is captured by corrupt elites the establishment that's what we refer to it as maybe it needs a different name maybe we call it the deep state but these people don't care about this country and there's something else we were talking about this last night when we we discussed the fall of empire the idea was that every 250 years the uh they say you know empires collapse phil was talking about this he's like well the u.s hasn't been an empire for 250 years it's only

really since the end of world war ii i think the fall of the American empire would be the greatest thing for the United States because the American empire, as people refer to it, is this, it's this expeditionary force that we've sent all over the world with military bases, insane foreign policy, world policing. And what we need to get back to is our own borders, our own people, our own jobs, our own economy. And that's what Trump was doing. The people who oppose him are those who want the American empire. They want war in Syria. They want pipelines in Europe. They want to control various parts of the Middle East. And we as Americans don't care about any of that, but we're so long for the ride because they're taking us there.

Yeah, no, it's very real. And one thing you mentioned about the left loving the military industrial complex. I mean, this is one of Trump's greatest accomplishments, to be honest, that he pushed the warmongers and the war hawks out of the Republican Party. He turned them into Democrats. A certain amount of them brought Bolton. brought bolt yeah look look and this is something i've said repeatedly about trump does not surround himself with the best people i mean he has really made some some bad picks uh some great picks as well exactly not sending his best not all of his picks were bad that's for certain but he definitely made some mistakes there however my greater point is so many people so many hawks uh were able to find refuge in the democratic party because they said initially or at least they claim to say we don't like war and they said you know what we don't like war but we don't dislike it as much as we dislike mean tweets i have a mixed

bad on military industrial complex because i hated it from 2006 when i found out it existed i'd never know now you love it yeah and now i'm like well like you know i'm kind of pro-industrial if we didn't have american military bases all over earth then what would be the what would be the other like i had never thought about like what would be the the the other option if we got rid of the american military industrial complex well there would probably be a chinese military industrial complex there'd probably be like russian invasions all across and then that would take so like i don't like i'm not like just, hey, America, die. I'm not trying to like stop it out because like what, it's so bad, get rid of it. Like, what are your thoughts, Mark?

Yeah, look, I enlisted in the army. The Cold War was going on, right? And, you know, people think about the Soviet Empire was there. They were the communists. We were the good guys. And, you know, I wanted to be part of defending America. And so I, look, at the time, Hunt for Red October was a big deal, the submarines and the tanks and everything. And I was like, I don't want to be in any of those, but I'll jump in airplanes.

That'll be great. So I wanted to be an airborne ranger. I got the chance to go do that. I get over to Germany. The wall was still up. I mean, we had live ammo on our vehicles. We were prepared for the Soviets to come rolling over. And the wall goes down.

I was in Bad Tolst, Germany, the German Alps in the South, training with 10 special forces groups. And this guy stands on the podium and he goes, write this day down. This is going to be one of the most famous days in history, 9 November 1989. And I mean, I was a private, so I didn't say this out loud, but I was like, oh yeah, pretty bold intro to your talk, you know. But he goes, the wall just came down and we didn't know whether he was real or not. So like that Thanksgiving, go into Berlin and see people for the first time, I could speak a little bit of German at the time. This guy could speak pretty good English. And he's like, this, is it like this everywhere? And we were in the Kudam district, which is kind

of like Times Square, you know, Berlin's version of New York's Times Square. And I was like, no, you know, we have small towns and everything. He goes, no, the stores are open at night and there's fresh milk. And I was like, yeah, you know, we have small towns and everything. He goes, no, the stores are open at night and there's fresh milk. And I was like, yeah, you know, I'm trying to explain like a 7-Eleven or something to him. He goes, no. And there's like always food on the shelves and like everyone can go in. Like his mind was blown. I was like, yeah, you want everyone to go in because you sell more stuff. But he was told like we were even more poor than they were. We had two blocks for show and, you know, the elites could go in and get things, but, you know, the regular people went somewhere else. So the flow at the end of the Cold War was not into

there other than a little bit of sense of curiosity. The flow was, how do we be more like the West? You know, when I was in high school, Ronald Reagan rode through my town on a train and I got to see him speak in Sydney, Ohio. And he said, you know, a lot of things at that time. One of his famous quotes is, freedom's never more than one generation away from extinction but we're in an era right now where people say they want what was on the other side of the wall they want they come in in congress and say they're they want socialism they want democratic socialism and i'll just tell you the place where america is a force for good so to your point ian um the korean peninsula you look south korea south of the 38th parallel first world economy first world health care mission

sending country uh all kinds of things they're a global donor to help others around the world north of the 38th parallel they had the other ideology paradise absolutely paradise up in north korea that's right right and so nothing going wrong there but for america intervening the whole korean peninsula would be like north korea yep and but for china i mean look what china did we could have made the whole peninsula like south korea but china stopped it so look we do need a strong military but we don't need an empire i mean i think look one of the best book titles i don't know a republic not an empire we what did you you know the question to ben

franklin what have you wrought sir a republic if you can keep it and the real thing is we lost our way how do we get back to a constitution a government small enough to fit inside that constitution well you know what concerns me is like the spanish american war at the end of the 1800s uh cuba was controlled by the spanish empire so the united states decided we're going to liberate cuba they they attacked they they dispelled the spanish fleet they liberated cuba they didn't take it we could have made cuba american territory but instead because of the righteous that we were we we let them become independent and then they became a communist threat so like at some point where the value of conk of being the one in control of the strength and conquering and and governing the world like there is value to that yeah i'm just terrified i don't know no i think that's that's actually a really good point my my eyes have been

opened we we should just go in and start taking over other countries right now because we're better than they are. Name a country, their economies are usually bad, right? There's a lot of crime and corruption. Mexico. Boom. We already fought a Mexican-American war. And we didn't keep it. We could have. But the president, who was it at the time? Was it Polk?

I can't remember. Some hippie. He was like, no, we're not going to keep Mexico. We're going to give Mexico back. And people in America were actually very much in favor of keeping it after we won that war. And if we did, would there be a big problem with cartels? Now, I'm not seriously suggesting that we invade other countries, but fair question. If the United States did keep Mexico after that war, would there be a problem with cartels and crime and all that stuff? I don't think so. I think there'd still be massive demand for drugs.

I mean, that's a big problem. I mean, as long as there's demand, there's going to be supply. That's the problem. But right now, the challenge we're dealing with is, look, drugs have been bad. They've always been bad. It's a bad idea to take them, in my opinion. But now they're being poisoned with fentanyl, right? And so where's the fentanyl coming from? It's coming from China. And look, I just got to think we got to stop that. We're voting on bills today. And look, thankfully, this is now bipartisan stopping the fentanyl because there's a girl in my district, Lizzie Murphy, 21 years old, took a Xanax at a party. Bad idea.

But it was laced with fentanyl. One pill, one party killed her. And so that's happened in tens of thousands of times, like 70,000 Americans dead with fentanyl. And to your point, if we had control of of mexico look there might still be cartels supplying something but we would not have this kind of crisis on our hands today and that's part of the challenge today since uh you know the question is can we unite to deal with this problem and so many others without conquering hopefully without conquering you think we can uh i i think they're

i think we can i'm certainly not calling for an invasion of mexico what do you say if we went to war with mexico we would probably not lose what about but i don't know what's war in iraq and afghanistan if this was all business i mean canada we would have already acquired them right i mean but you know they have like 40 50 million I mean, it would be a pretty easy acquisition. They would have better government than they have today. On the other hand, look, they've got Trudeau and all this socialism, cancel culture galore, all kinds of the, you know, utopia that the far left in America wants.

I would trade one far left person who wants to fundamentally remake America with critical theory Marxism for one you know freedom loving Canadian I might give you a 10 for 1 deal you can have 10 of these far left crazy people for one like freedom loving Canadian

or Venezuelan or Cuban people who are like hey communism is bad America is the dream and they want to be here we're better off with just travel just travel i feel like we are on the cusp of of of the end of the american military industrial complex or at least that's one option and i'm i'm really like considering like if that does happen and we become just the united states of isolationism what's what are we going to do like when another country starts taking over its

neighbors well so this is an interesting question right i want to until when so i want to mention something there's this phrase like isolationism and i understand this is just sort of the term people use politically but i don't think not getting involved in wars is accurately described as isolationism right like you're not i mean if you're still trading with other countries if you have pro-social interactions with other countries you're not isolated you're just not fighting them i think with the question of other countries being invaded there's a real question there there's a real concern because there are human rights violations all over the world but then also there are human rights violations all over the world i mean how do we decide which ones we

get involved with fighting who has the most resources we can acquire that's why i'm like it's just it's just all bs we're not invading china over their of their concentration camps we're not look at eisenhower though go back to eisenhower look he he didn't get called an isolationist he ended the you know pushed for the end of the uh korean war you know it ended you know as he was campaigning to be president but you know you look you look at you look at uh winding that war down he could have continued it and waged it uh at the end of world war ii is the last time we had as much debt as we have today right and and we knew like you can't you can't have that much debt relative to the size of your

economy so the entire global monetary system was reset and everyone knew you have to pay down the debt. So Eisenhower said, we can't get involved everywhere. You have to be focused. And I think that's the time we're in today. We have to convince people, look, you can't live with this much debt. And even if you say, oh, we can print more money. Well, haven't we just tested this that, well, you can print some money, but you're not going to be able to buy the same amount of stuff. Inflation is real, right? And so you can't just print your way out of this. You actually have to get back to the discipline and focus that scarcity produces. And frankly, Republic keeps you that way. But if you want to try to build an empire, that's why empires fail,

is because they overconsume the resources that they've got. And that's really what's happening. And the neocons have done as much damage in terms of debt and destruction of freedom as the far left is in our country. And that's why Trump's presidency was so important. We haven't fully purged the party of these folks, but we need to finish the job and frankly, make sure the neocons are homeless well it's it's a complicated question i would say the the left has still done more damage just because of the denigration to the family which is the fundamental social building block but fundamentally i agree with you that neoconservatives have done a massive amount of damage and frankly i wouldn't really draw a distinction between the

neoconservatives and the left all of the ideological founders of the neoconservative movement were either marxist or former marxist right irving crystal said the neoconservative movement were either Marxist or former Marxist, right? Irving Kristol said a neoconservative is a leftist who's been mugged by reality. Well, I'm sorry. Reality doesn't mug you. The truth sets you free. But whoever sold you that Marxist ideology did mug you. And it's not true.

But what the neoconservatives couldn't see was that it wasn't reality that was corrupt. It was their insane ideology that was. But they stuck to it and they believed firmly and you can tell based on their foreign policy that they believe this that social order could be fundamentally restructured in ways foreign to the nature of man or a culture that's being governed through the barrel of a gun and with the threat of force of course we can go to iraq or afghanistan and turn these countries into modern democracies because government can do anything you threaten force strategically in the right areas you can completely reshape a culture an entire culture i mean these are fundamentally marxist ideas i don't think they

work they don't it works every time over the course of 80 years and just genocide and the eradication of living memory so we don't know like the romans just transformed rome it used to be you know a lot of different countries before it was the roman empire but now with modern media there's no way to do that without everyone watching the the torture and the annihilation of humanity. So we kind of reject the idea of like going into Iraq and just killing everyone and planting the seed of Americanism. That didn't wasn't going to happen. No one would have tolerated that.

Never. I think this top down transformation doesn't work anymore. It's not even happening in the United States. In Afghanistan, in 100 years, if we created the culture there then i think it would be like south korea yeah but it would be so brutal it would have to be so like killing people for speaking out against the new regime kind of brutal it wouldn't it wouldn't track with our modern culture yeah and it didn't and that's why we said we shouldn't be in there and we should leave it's insane social engineering right it's completely insane social engineering what similar vein but what are your

thoughts on this ukrainian vein but what are your thoughts on this ukrainian war like what's your foreseeable for like the future of the end of this conflict yeah i'm one of a small group of people that's never voted for anything for ukraine and it's not because i'm sympathetic to putin or anything it was an unjust invasion of ukraine um and you know clearly the russians have i think there's enough evidence to say they've they say they've violated norms to the point where they're war crimes. These things aren't acceptable. But there was a reason that there was a war there, and it was preventable. I think, look, you can never say it wouldn't have happened if Donald Trump was president, but we know that it didn't happen when he was president.

And, look look weakness invites aggression you know joe biden just oozes weakness everywhere and when you look at how this war is being waged it is a proxy war it's undeclared it's undefined you know there's no mission it's like well help ukraine help them do what um you know in in oh we'll stop the russians okay look i mean there is no military school anywhere where that's going to get you a passing grade on a mission statement. Is the mission to make sure this war doesn't spread to NATO? Is the mission to make sure there are no Russians in Ukraine?

Does that include Crimea? Those are all different missions that need different resources. Is the mission regime change in Russia because you're going to have war crimes tribunals? Because you're not having war crimes tribunals unless there's regime change in russia so there are people in the state department that want that victoria newland who spent you know the better part of a decade working to engineer this war uh and it frankly is like rooting for it to be bigger um yeah regime change in russia and you know look the basic uh phrase you know ready aim fire where's the aim part we haven't even defined the mission i just sent a letter last week to

secretary blinken like what do you say the mission is mr secretary because you're coming asking for more resources to do what let's define the mission and i think at some level any of those could be just i mean it looks unjust what putin did so you could all go all the way to regime change you could say look ukraine's not part of nato it's just that we defend nato we're stopping right here rooting for you but our focus is here but you should define it and if you just have an open checkbook frankly it's the worst of all outcomes because the the uk Ukrainians want their country. They will do anything to get it. You give them a lifeline and hope, but it's on purpose being turning these people into a meat grinder.

So if you look at Senator Mark Warner, who was talking about it, he's basically celebrating the fact that it's a meat grinder. It's grinding down the Russian army. And of course, the unstated part is it's grinding down the people of Ukraine as well. That's not a just war. It's certainly not being waged justly. And so I do think you have to define the mission and you have to hold people accountable. If you don't define the mission, no one can be held accountable for success or failure. And that's on purpose, I think. Yeah. I'm wondering if the lack of definition of a mission is because they want to keep it clandestine so that they're not overtly saying we are involved vladimir putin just so you know so they're like what we don't even know if we're there like so

is that what is there some mystery that we're there what we're doing i mean yeah really like the official seal hasn't been stamped yet but i mean the signs are there it's lend lease at the very least i think but you think that's why they haven't declared an official mission statement because they don't want to like push they don't want to they don't want the accountability for what uh the outcome is they and frankly they want the open checkbook they want the cash to flow and they like the meat grinder and look these are the same people if you look at mark warner not only is he the guy celebrating this he's the guy that introduces the restrict act yeah and they say the restrict act is a tiktok ban except it doesn't ban tiktok it goes after american citizens it's completely orwellian it's worse than the patriot

act it is the patriot act for the internet and you look at who the neocons are they all wanted you know to spy on american citizens but oh just keep them safe. What has that power been used to? It's been used to impose their will on not just government, not just the Trump campaign, but on average ordinary citizens in every layer. And why would we give them more power? They're essentially saying, gosh, if we had all the power of the Chinese Communist Party,

we could keep you safe from the Chinese Communist Party. That's the restrict act. Yeah. Well, you know, it's interesting because one point that's been mentioned here is the fact that our goals have been very vaguely defined, at least on the public facing front. And you see this anytime anyone wants to run some kind of scam or hustle the American people, right? You set a goal that's theoretically impossible to meet or that's very vague.

So with BLM, BLM is a brilliant scam. Why? Well, because at what point can we say racism is over? It's ended. It's gone. Never. You'll never be able to say that. So someone's always going to be able to profit off of that brand.

Similarly, if you don't define the goal that you have in Ukraine, you can keep throwing money at it. Just like we did in Iraq, just like we did in Afghanistan. There were so many different stated goals at different times for what had to be done over there i remember as a kid hearing this repeatedly on the radio operation iraqi freedom this is about bringing freedom to iraq what does that mean right like when do we declare iraq a free country at what point does the united states say all right we've done our work and it's time to go home we've we've achieved our mission and it's time to go home. We've achieved our mission. It gives you license to stay as long as you want.

After we completely wipe out their government and then leave. Now the people are free. Now they're free. They're great. Yeah, great. Things are going to be awesome over there. Big update on the Restrict Act. I mean, relatively big. No one signed that thing in a month and a half. Looks like all that horrible press that came out about

it when Lindsey Graham was made a fool of on jesse waters show uh everyone that was hilarious it's like leprosy now he's like i'm not on board with that and he's like yes you are you're a sponsor like oh i am we'll fix that and he's still a sponsor lindsey is he still yeah three three 27 people are evil dude lindsey graham do you know lindsey personally you know i've met him but i don't really know him. I certainly haven't gotten to know him. Is it like, do you guys even have a chance to get to know each other in Congress? I mean, some of them.

We definitely don't spend as much time between House and Senate. You know, I've gotten to know some of the more conservative senators over there. Well, you know, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, you know, Ron Johnson, Rick Scott, some of the conservative folks, Tim Scott, folks that way. In the House, I mean, there's colleagues that I've gotten to know great. They're some of the conservative folks, Tim Scott, folks that way in the house. I mean, there's colleagues that I've gotten to know great. They're some of my best friends, period, anywhere ever. And I didn't meet them until I started doing this. There's just a lot of really good people that doesn't get enough attention.

I mean, frankly, there's at least four or five dozen really good people fighting for the right things in the house. That's not enough to change everything, but it is changing things. Aren't people shocked? I mean, they saw this first week when we had the debate and the fight for who's going to be speaker of the house uh and a lot of skeptics on well is mccarthy really going to do whatever i mean he's fighting he's doing the stuff and i think a lot of us said yeah i think we're going to get there and the reality is republicans are stronger because of our narrow majority because we did find a way to work together. Do you think Congress is corrupt? It's not very fun. It's dysfunctional. And look,

you know, one of the ones that I look at is post COVID, we can't get a healthcare committee. We can't get a dedicated committee on oversight for healthcare. Healthcare is almost 25% of GDP. You know, when Medicaid passed in the sixties, healthcare was like 25% of GDP. You know, when Medicaid passed in the sixties, healthcare was like 6% of GDP. Then we started subsidizing it with, with Medicare and Medicaid and every other thing. And now over 50% of the babies born in Ohio are born on Medicaid. So, you know, it is a massive takeover of the system and a lot of hospitals, like 80% of it is healthcare. So you go back to, you know, big pharma, we're like four and a half percent of the system in a lot of hospitals like 80 of it is health care so you go back to you know big pharma we're like four and a half percent of the world's population we take almost 40 of the

world's prescription drugs like why is there's this big demand for the country and i think in our country we have kind of business interests that in a lot of ways have more influence over the politics than the politics have over the business interests. How come there's no committee on far-left extremism? You know, there is. I mean, frankly, when you look at one of the committees that we fought to get created is the Committee on Weaponization of Government. So you look at the Woke and Weaponized Government, this subcommittee that it's a part of the Judiciary Committee, but it's select.

You have people that aren't even on Judiciary that became part of this Committee on Weaponization, and that's what they're looking at. You look, as they had Matt Taibbi on talking about the Twitter files, literally he's there testifying to this committee in Congress. In his house, somebody from the IRS shows up at his house. Now, look, having audits happens, but no one, literally no one, believes that an IRS agent showing up at Matt Davey's house was a coincidence, right?

It is a weaponization of government. And we have a committee, and this shows like Republicans are taking this seriously. We don't have the executive branch. I know people are frustrated and say, when's somebody going to jail? And I think you look forward to going through the Durham report and saying, why did Durham pull some punches? Why didn't he bring in Comey? Why didn't he refer anybody for prosecution?

But Congress, shame on us if we don't follow through and do something, whether it's about weaponized government in the agencies, whether it's about the weaponization of the military industrial complex. They can't pass an audit. There's no accountability. All that happens is we give them more money if you go over to the scientific technical elite you're going to tell me we're going to keep letting these guys do like uh fauci said to ran paul i don't have to tell you how much money i got paid for approving these fda patents and uh drug approvals from it licenses we're not going to restructure the national institutes of health

or the centers for disease control in the wake of all this stuff? Are you kidding me? We have to. Yeah, when I think of the technical weaponization is the proprietary software of our social media. Like when I can't know if it's tracking me, I can't know if I'm being manipulated or I don't have access to know, that's a weapon. That's an entirely different subject. I don't disagree with you that that is a problem, but the weaponization of government and the collusion with big tech, I think is where what you're saying comes into play you know what i mean yeah it is that is very important like that's the probably the main focus but i feel like it's if you want to be go after google for weaponizing its software don't be like hey you banned that guy you're using it as a weapon it's the fact that well firstly the fact

that they can ban the guy is kind of a weaponization that they have that authority like uh if i give you a giant stick you just have a giant stick but i can start to consider that a weapon i want to i want to i want to make sure i just merge these ideas for everybody because i because you're talking about the weaponization of big tech but the government was utilizing big tech by going to them getting a portal made to then talk so the government is effectively using big tech as the government was utilizing big tech by going to them getting a portal made to then so the government is effectively using big tech as the shield to say hey it's not us we're not doing it all we're doing is making requests to a private company and the private company is removing public citizens and their speech and their ideas yeah but you look like they went after

they went after parents that showed up at school board meetings they went after they just defined a recent term radical traditional catholics i.e. pro-life Catholics. Rad Tradcath. That's right. Rad Tradcath. We had the whistleblower on our show. Rad Tradcath. Yeah, Rad Tradcath.

That's me. So they put these tags on it. They weaponized government. Thank goodness our country was kind of alarmed across the political spectrum when the government wanted to start spying on your bank accounts. If you got $600 of activity, they're going to report all your bank account activity to the IRS. I was really encouraged that most everybody said, whoa, wait a minute, that's crazy. But they didn't hire 87,000 IRS agents. I mean, that's five infantry divisions worth of IRS agents.

They don't want five extra infantry divisions of IRS agents to go after a few billionaires and millionaires. You mentioned getting a committee on healthcare. What would that look like? I mean, it would look like they own the whole jurisdiction. And part of it is they would have a dedicated subcommittee on oversight. So if you look at, you know, yeah, we have an oversight committee, but if you look at energy and commerce, like a lot of their attention right now is focused on energy policy, right? But they oversee a healthy portion of the healthcare market. And so I think, you know, one of the proxies I get is, well, who spends the most money on lobbying in D.C.?

Well, probably healthcare, right? And the health insurance companies post-Obamacare, look, they have like 20% net margins. The hospitals have to get bigger and the patients get removed from seeing their doctors, right? So when you had, you know, little kids, they would go to the pediatrician, you could take them in. Well, now you can't because you can't get in for three weeks. Well, the same people that are driving the doctor to be billed, you know, bill every, you know, 10 minute increments

or eight minute increments or whatever, log their time and stay loaded up on their calendar so they can't even see anybody. Well, gee, guess where the kids have to go now because they can't get in to see the pediatrician tomorrow. Well, they got to go to the ER, right? Well, guess what? The ER bills out at a massively higher rate. I mean, it is the most corrupt system.

It's so dysfunctional. And some people are at the point where they're just like look i don't care nationalize it health care single payer whatever it can't be worse than what we have yes it can it can always be worse yeah people don't understand people from all over the world still come here it's still the best people but it is not run well people should talk to michael malice because he talks about this how people don't understand how bad it was in the soviet union nope and they think it can't get worse and well we gotta go to make one point about the ussr you were talking about this a little bit earlier with the iron curtain before it fell and how people were shocked that there was fresh milk in the

stores so when you look at the public attitudes in the USSR versus those in the United States, Americans were in many cases unwilling to believe that the genocidal activity that was reported as coming from the USSR actually happened there because it was just beyond our comprehension that people could be doing that to each other. You know what people in the USSR were unwilling to believe? That we had fresh food, that there weren't shortages, that people weren be doing that to each other. You know what people in the USSR were unwilling to believe? That we had fresh food, that there weren't shortages, that people weren't starving.

They thought those were rumors. They thought there's no possible way that there was somewhere in the world where everyone isn't starving. And actually we have fat homeless people now, so it's kind of a problem. Let's go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button,

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Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, IRL yesterday was mad fun. Dan is a cool dude. You're both right. Him. F what the F they say. You right. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, IRL yesterday was mad fun. Dan is a cool dude. You're both right. Him, F what the F they say. You, we're done holding it. We forward the line.

I concur. Bongino was fun. Nacho Man Randy Sandwich says, Ian, do Simon and Garfunkel parody The Sound of Seamus. Of Seamus. We'll work it out

Ian says choose the chickens or you'll get mobbed you was warned that's awesome yeah that's a reference to the new video I just did taking Tim actually not taking Tim out of context really it was the actual I mean it was out of context I don't think so did you do Tim's voice or did Tim no it's just an actual audio

completely unedited clip from Tim and animated it when I first heard it I thought Seamus somehow faked it. I was like, there's no way I delivered that in this way that fits his video so perfectly. So basically, it's me saying... Tell them to watch it. Tell them. I wonder how much... Well, I guess you don't have to say what happened.

Well, I'm going to give the context. There was some violent incident that occurred in a city. And I said, why would people choose to live in these cities where you're getting beaten by violent mobs when you can go live out in the middle of nowhere and get like goats and chickens and stuff? And then I did like this little joke line about it's either the chickens or being beaten. So Seamus made a video. Watch it on Freedom Tunes because it's ridiculously funny. Thank you. Outdoors with the Morgan says, nice job on Beck's show today.

Look forward to the day you get back to West Virginia. Oh, yeah. Glenn Beck. Yeah, he called me. He called me. It was fun. It's good. It's good. I'm down at the blaze. job on beck's show today look forward to the day you get back to west virginia oh yeah going back yeah he called me he called me it was fun it's good it's good i'm down at the blaze yeah a few weeks ago i was down at the blaze i didn't meet glenn when i was down there but i saw pretty much everybody else it was epic yeah we had a good conversation nice what'd you guys talk about penny you know i basically said that um it was it was what i said earlier it's just just rephrasing the same quote

i said i don't think the issue with these big cities is that evil exists it's that good men do nothing i want to see people rising to the occasion like daniel penny did i want to see people in new york city protesting out waving signs in support peacefully of course in support of daniel penny and make sure the local government knows that you as a resident of this city do not like the crime and that you know there's that woman city do not like the crime and that you know there's that woman the the victim and witness said daniel penny's a hero saved her life that's the kind of stuff you need people should come out and say that let's let's grab some more super chats purple says free the code crossland bocus 2024 cast proof for life bocus is doing good he got

a second round of stem cells by the way he's doing really good he's he's spunky um we're gonna be we've got uh mr bocas pumpkin spice experience is coming soon it's gonna be our year-round pumpkin spice coffee because i just never understood why they made it seasonal if everybody always wants it and likes it and then we're doing uh this is an idea from one of our members focus with mr bocas yes yeah we'll be a um i think it going to be our espresso roast. So context for that super chat, free the code, is something I say a lot in regards to the social media networks, the large social media networks that are acting in the commons, Google, Twitter, Facebook.

I feel like their source code should be available for people. Yeah, that was a pretty bold move by Elon Musk to go public. Here's our algorithm. You can look at it and give us suggestions and he threw the gauntlet down and of course no one has taken it up they're not gonna they're not gonna out what's going on at uh you know meta i would be open to like platforms it's like an anti-trust movement to mandate that companies function the united states have to have free software code the algorithm gpl3 yeah i don't know about all of their code but the

algorithm well we'll start with the algorithms yeah because that's manipulating the public all right omg buppies says desantis understands the culture war the need to the need to stop the long march through the institutions the gop has generally failed in this regard i like desantis if he becomes president i will be happy um i just think we need right now you know like i'm imagining this big siege vehicle you know and donald trump is the the bull in front of it he crashes through the gates and he rampages up the ivory tower and they run fleeing from the building and then desantis comes in and starts signing the policies and the bills and stuff that's how i view it henry says if desantis wins the primary i can see Trump running as an independent.

If that happens, the Democrats win due to a split conservative vote. Yeah, it's entirely possible. Yeah. Although they did let Donald Trump run last time because, or in 2016, because they thought he was an easy candidate to beat. The Pied Piper candidate. Yup. Man, were they wrong. Viking Vet says, this is what all these politicians don't

understand it's not about winning we don't care to uh to win if it's back to the old useless republicans we would rather go down swing and then bend the knee with a neocon win i'm not i don't think desantis is diswomptous uh i think desantis is doing a lot of really really great policy and he's really understanding what motivates a lot of us i just see him as um he's not this he's a ceo not a ceo you know ceo is like trump he i don't know man he's been rocketing in florida and he's definitely not a neocon no i agree i i like to say this but what i mean by coo is he he's the one running the company getting the job done but the ceo is the visionary who's telling you know like desantis i think desantis is a little more introverted trump there you go you can't get much you can't get much more extroverted than donald trump you cannot i mean he just fuels energy anytime you're in his presence

he's got energy uh you have a good time even even people that don't want to have a good time in donald trump's present fine you're actually having a good time with donald trump you know de sanis isn't that kind of personality i mean he's a guy that'll you know he'll be kind and everything else but like once he talks he just can go back and start cranking away on another policy yeah and just after it. And, you know, I think either of them can be good. I know, you know, probably what's going to work in terms of rallies is going to be the energy behind Trump and energy really does drive electoral politics in a lot of ways. That's why DeSantis didn't win by much of a margin when he ran the first time. But then after the people in Florida experienced the, yeah, let this guy just go off and do his thing and he's going to come back and roll out another killer policy they're

like oh we want more of that and they wanted a lot in florida all right we got a question for you from uh there's no name it says warren can you touch on the sec chairman gary gensler and his attack on crypto innovation in the u.s also about his role as cfo for hill 2016, signing off on the payment for Crossfire Hurricane, get him out of office. Yeah, we're working to get rid of Gary Gensler. I gave a hearing where I was able to communicate with him and say, look, I plan to fire you. We've got a bill that basically restructures the Securities and Exchange Commission and eliminates the chairmanship. He fires Gary Gensler as chairman. He would still be a commissioner.

And right now there are five commissioners. Originally, it was created as a commission because the commission was supposed to do the decision-making. And then they supercharged the powers of the chairman. And Gary Gensler is front-running everybody. I mean, he's moving ahead of Congress, Republicans and Democrats, the House, the Senate. He's moving ahead of Treasury. He's moving ahead of CFTC. And frankly, it's all to impose his will on everything. And so there's almost no accountability. The commission, you either have four commissioners that are useless, or you need, you know, and one chairman, or you go back to say, look, our capital markets are the best in the world. I mean, look, we got four or 5% of the world's population, 25% of the world's GDP. We have over 50% of the world. I mean, look, we got 4% or 5% of the world's population, 25% of the world's GDP,

but we have over 50% of the world's invested capital. I mean, why would you mess that up? But Gary Gensler is in the process of messing it up. And you look at crypto, he's clearly declared war on crypto. He's a henchman for Elizabeth Warren, and he's front-running everything for Elizabeth Warren, frankly, Sherrod Brown, who's the chairman of Senate Banking. So they're doing nothing over there except incentivizing him to do this the way to rein him in is to restructure the securities interchange commission right on right on let's grab this uh next super chat john mcgee says trial for trump's 34 new york charges is set for march 25th 2024 right in the middle of primary season and he has to be present. If that's not coordinated

election interference, what is? Yep. You know what, though? That would look great for him. I'm sorry I was late. I was in court because the swamp brought me in. Amazing. Fantastic PR

for him. Stevie Beebe says they will wait until he wins the primary going into the general and decree he is ineligible then say dem and third or fourth parties only on ballot a lot of states are going to do that i would not be surprised if new york says new york will pass some law about eligibility or something so you think like in the state of new york they would remove trump from the ballot i think a bunch of states will try to do it but I'm not sure it matters because any state where it's contested, you're going to have people saying do not remove his name. I mean, that's the whole thing where they want to try to get somebody convicted of a felony because that makes you not a qualified elector in those states. And then you can't appear on the ballot.

So, look, if they can't stop, they're so committed to stopping Donald Trump in any way they can. So you kind of got a plan. How are they going to go after him? And you got to have a plan to stop him. And this is also why I really, really like him. I know people have concerns about electability, but I'm sorry. They're not doing the same things to stop DeSantis. They're just not.

Because they know that they're scared of Trump. They are particularly afraid of Trump. That is why I like him. Yeah, me too. Jeff, Jesus,idson teamed up with budweiser harley stock is crashing what were they thinking is that true is that true oh no hopefully that was a deal that if it's true hopefully that was inked ahead of april 1st uh but there are places like stadiums there's stocks up one percent okay yeah i don't uh in the past month they're down 13.82 percent in the past six months they're down 31 percent i don't know i don't think it has anything to do with bud light it's a bit of a hit either way

yeah i mean they're they're they're doing poorly but six five six months ago that was well before what happened with uh with bud light so maybe they're panicking and trying to figure something else out bo says what do you guys think about an election system where you can track your own vote to ensure it's who you voted for access it with names security number and current address also a litmus test and easy safest question like number of states yeah the downside for that is um then your vote's not private. Somebody else can know exactly how you voted as well. If they have your private information and your social security number, name, birthday, and mother's maiden name and address.

If it's encrypted and you have like a QR code that only you can scan with your device. You mean like you had private keys and there was a public key or something like that? When you vote, it prints out a code. Like a blockchain? Yeah. It would be the same thing where, you know, if it's not your keys, then it's not your coins.

If you had not your keys, not your vote, then you can actually have a different system. Here's the problem. Let's say you go to a voting station and you go to the machine and you say,

I'm voting for DeSantis. And then it goes, here's your ballot that has been tabulated. Here's your QR code proof. And you go, awesome. Take your phone and you scan it and itr code proof and you go awesome take your

phone and you scan it and it says trump and you go hey i voted for desantis you can't sue you know why one vote doesn't change the outcome of an election so you'd go to court and they would say your vote there there are times where one vote does change the outcome it would have you you so what happened with a lot of these uh a lot of the votes that trump brought forward i'm sorry a lot of the lawsuits is when they were like hey hey, look, we've got what we believe is, you know, impropriety in terms of the like signature verification. They'd say the amount of votes in question would not alter the results. Therefore, case dismissed. Yes.

Standing was the argument. And that's what made so many people so frustrated between November and January 6th and why they wanted to show up and rally, rally, peacefully protest. And frankly, some people were so frustrated to the point where they crossed the line because they felt like they couldn't get any kind of hearing in court. The courts were not listening. And frankly, a lot of people felt like the politicians weren't listening. And so I think that's why we had the process.

What you'd have to do with the qr codes is if you found that your vote was incorrect and they wouldn't fix it and you can't get a lawsuit you'd have to find then a number of people that would equal that have evidence of their votes being improper but then the problem is how do you prove your original vote was actually for the other candidate what'll end up happening is they'll go to court and they'll argue they did vote for Trump. They're just expressing regret now and their votes are correct. You know what happened? You'd take a picture showing that they voted for someone else than you asked to vote for.

You'd post it to social media and you would just get banned. They'd be like, like ah this is a yeah all right let's grab some more super chats paul nyholm says china is demanding loan payments from their belt and road initiative and they are starving out third world countries by causing them to default and drop their own social and government services that was always the goal yeah that's a tactic economic hit man yeah yeah exactly that's what we're gonna do in the rest of africa as well unfortunately that's what they're gonna do to ukraine yeah totally not heisenberg says gad sad coined woke mind virus elon repeated corrected the record zaref ecliptic ecliptico says men are

learning as long as the family courts are weaponized against them no fault divorce is teaching that it is not no longer worth the risk to wed in a family when it can be stripped away with a simple i'm not happy that was ronald reagan uh i think ronald reagan put the uh stake to the heart of this country and just drove it straight through with no fault divorce yeah not even a question unbelievably horrible you can talk about a lot of good things you like him for things that he did we're gonna i don't know sure sure whatever but no fault divorce was like let's let's literally just destroy the foundation of this country it's horrible with like functional prenups i could imagine it like if we get divorced all my prior money is still mine and then i think you were saying shamus there are

versions of prenups where if i initiate the divorce i forego my my prenup and you can take half of whatever so it kind of disincentivizes the divorce yeah i basically i'm again like i'm i really am against prenups as a concept but that's one version of it that i think might i don't know because what you're saying is because then you're incentivizing a person to stay in the marriage right so i guess that couldn't be uh that's not similar to other prenups but one thing i'll mention with reagan and no-fault divorce this is the reality of the slippery slope what happened was on reagan's first marriage according to him his ex-wife had to make up a bunch of lies and false accusations against him in order to get the divorce so his thinking was well if we have no-fault divorce people aren't

going to be smeared with false accusations because their wife wants to leave them. Well, this is what always ends up happening. People claim we're going to give an outlet to something that's already happening because it's an ugly reality, but we can't prevent it. And then that thing ends up exploding. This is how the left always gets the social change it wants. Let's just let this small handful of people who are going to do this anyway do this thing. And then everyone ends up doing it. No fault divorce is a perfect example. Let's give an outlet to something that's already happening

and now it happens all the time yeah all right guardsman norheim of the 10th first says tim i was watching the hill this morning and was blown away to see one host brianna joy gray claim you were covering for neo-nazis oh yeah i think they need to consider a and change host again why were you watching the hills rising wait why were they saying you were covering for because of that because of that guy who uh took four clips of one episode and posted on russian social media so they claim and because i was like how do we even know that's legit that's and and they and the media was claiming that this guy was a fan because he took four clips from one episode of the show and the clips show he wasn't even subscribed to the show. Isn't it amazing that there was no attribution to Bernie Sanders

when one of his fans decided to shoot up a bunch of my colleagues at a congressional baseball game? The other host on the show actually brought that up and made that a point saying no one actually made that up. Oh, Robbie said that? Yeah, Robbie said that. Well, what I will say of The Hill Rising is you have two two

things to consider here you can watch the hill which is a machine built on corporate dollars where they've chosen hosts to put on a show and these are not people who built a show who are particular these are not people who are particularly good at what they do or you can come to a show like tim cast iRL which was built from the ground up without any corporate investment or backers and the show works because we did a good job of it. The why is it that Brandon Joy Gray would say something so nonsensical about me and I believe it was Elon Musk. Elon Musk. Elon Musk. It's because she is not a competent media personality who would normally rise to

this position. She was someone who was put in this position because she's on Twitter. Whereas, why do you come to watch this show? Well, this show was really small and it was a YouTube channel with no support, no funding or anything. We started doing it. And then people were like, Hey, this show is pretty good. And they started watching it. The Hills rising is they invested a bunch of money, shuffled around various hosts, found a person, and now they have vapid opinions that don't seem to make sense. Well, not surprised. Also, this is hilarious. Hold on. I just got to make a i'm not surprised also this is hilarious hold on i just gotta make a comment about this they're claiming that you're covering for a neo-nazi by saying he wasn't one of your fans how is that covering for him like because that makes him worse if he's one of your fans

and you're covering from him because the hill rising is fake not woke it's like it is woke they want us to bow and say oh no oh geez we better adhere to the machine's narrative because look what they're smearing us with the media comes out and claims that he was a fan because they're liars yeah the guy typical yeah they are a belling cat oh i trust belling cat the the i'm pretty sure it was the founder who was making ai images of trump getting arrested like that's a a non-partisan. They find this profile. There's no direct evidence of it. They then I think it's like CNN's like but he had a picture of his

birth certificate or some other nonsense. Like oh yeah we all post that to our social profiles. Makes no sense. But maybe it's real. I don't know or care. A dude posting four clips from one show and you can see he's not subscribed is not a fan. They're just saying that because they are trying to weaponize things for political gain.

If Brianna Joy Gray is saying that, it's because she is lying to you, or because she's just very, very stupid. Which is possible to be both. It just got bought as of tomorrow. It's owned by Next Star Media Group. Talk about corporate conglomeration. It's funny, the whole way she threw that, she was talking about

anti-legacy media, saying, oh, we're not part of big media and stuff like that and like it was just so funny you are now brianna what's next star look it up though next star media group let's find out could be a startup who knows i'm just saying like oh they're they're big they own a lot of stuff yeah you can you can take a bunch of money buy a set and then say find me a host for a show or you can look at the people who are rising in today's ranks people who just slowly built up a show because they did a good job it's meritocracy versus institutional power uh yeah it's publicly next star is publicly traded they own cw they

own 75 percent of cw oh so the hill rising is this big corporate network yeah surprise surprise they have those opinions but i'll tell you how. But I'll tell you how it works. I'll tell you how it works. They don't go to people like Brianna Joy Gray and say, say this or else you're fired. They find people who are stupid, who say stupid things and then say, that's the kind of person we should hire. Right. So I've seen this at all the media companies I've worked for.

How is it that you end up with someone who writes a story that's just the most insane garbage ever? They're not forced to do it. These are people who genuinely believe stupid things because they're not smart yeah surprise surprise chris page says shameless back in the day old people would plant a tree or build a business for the children now they sell the children or gifts or gifts of the old for today no well i think it's true people sell out no it's true i mean we live in a culture where people are so focused on their immediate short-term gain that the elderly actually care more about their

own comfort or even social standing than they do the next generation all right i'm reading this one it says uh evil zombie ham says this 20 bucks is for Seamus. Tim Pool Chicken Tune is freaking hilarious. I've been playing it on repeat and laughing for the last five minutes. Tim probably won't give you the $20, so it's a good thing I'm a member of your site. That is not true. I have $20 right here. Oh, from you to Seamus. Nice work.

Thank you. Guys, give me Super Chats and say that more often so that Tim just keeps taking money out of his wallet. And I will remind people that a portion of the super chat does go to YouTube. So you're getting a premium. I'm getting a premium. So send more money and we'll bankrupt Tim. So basically what happens is I made a funny joke. Seamus took my funny joke.

How dare you? How dare you characterize it that way? You made an innocuous statement. And as I was listening to it. Innocuous. It was perfectly delivered. You were being completely serious. You were saying this is how I really feel about the world my name's tim pool and then i said

this is going to make an excellent cartoon it was really funny how like you basically turned in my warning you turned it into a threat like so basically i was saying like it's a warning you live in these cities what happens and then shame it chamus animated it so it looks like i'm threatening people yeah you guys you guys really have to watch it please i can't wait when he showed it to me i was i was crying laughing it was so good i showed him this morning he was dying yeah and i had to i was like i went got my girlfriend i was like you gotta watch this awesome come on come on and she was like i don't get it no i'm totally she loved it yeah she was laughing too free food for life says just wanted to say hi shamus love your work on cartoons and your podcast but in your podcast and pints with aquinas y'all about have me converting from protestantism to yes no yes

do it do it do it you're so close you could do it send me a dm on twitter they're talking about shamer yeah they're talking about shame so what's the premise i haven't seen it yet i shame everybody just one by one i just go through the whole country i'm like shame on this guy for this reason no i'm just sort of like talking the issues it's just a political podcast where i go through the events of the day and then sometimes i'll interview people all right let's read this one sean d says thank you for representing butler county is there any way for ohio to get its representation back from the southwestern states with illegal immigrants counted in the census ohio gop were able to district out tim ryan or else they were going to come for your seat yeah uh look this is a great

question i've got a bill that uh is basically called the fair representation act it basically makes it so like the 14th amendment is clear to me that you know i don't represent i represent american citizens i represent no one who's not a citizen. If you came to the country legally, I mean, I hope you have a good time. Glad you came to America. Your representation is at an embassy or a consulate. You know, and the downside is the way that Donald Trump got beaten in this lawsuit, he tried to fight it. And so that we counted citizens.

The way that non-citizens are stealing representation isn't just by like people trying to vote illegally it's when you have over representation on the congressional maps um so we've talked about it quite a bit you have like you have like five to seven extra members of congress in california and with the sanctuary cities you oversample the population in urban areas so it creates more blue districts, specifically blue districts, and it puts more people into certain states. So it really is theft of representation. And then when you look at the way the resources are distributed, it's generally distributed on a per capita basis. It should be distributed on a per citizen basis or an electoral vote basis.

That would be a better system. And we should decide that of our own accord. But if we can't, we should amend the Constitution to make it clear. I've got a constitutional amendment proposed. It would be great. And look, Ohio would pick up probably two seats out of that. Who knows what every other state, but we know California and some of the border states would lose representation. It not only is electoral representation stolen, but I just want to make one point really quick here the two things conservatives say is they steal our votes and they take welfare and the left goes um well actually because they're not citizens they can't do either but what happens here doesn't say that no that well all right that was my left impression but

you're right it did sound more like ben shapiro but my point is simply to say that not only like you said does representation become lopsided because they're counted and they they get extra electoral votes or more representation in government um when their family members are on welfare they'll end up taking welfare from them so they're still pulling out of the system and there was an article written by a left-wing outlet a few years ago after trump got elected that said these poor undocumented citizens are too afraid to get welfare and how that trump's been elected it's like oh interesting i thought that wasn't happening. All right.

Chaser says, Tim, the coffee shop must sell Joey's bag of donuts. Yes. I don't know if we can actually sell donuts like that, but maybe we'll make a coffee that's like, you know, Joey's bag of donuts or whatever. We are planning on, we've got a few things launching. K-Cups are coming in the next couple of weeks. They've got to manufacture them, but we've got a few things launching k cups are coming in the next couple of weeks they've got to manufacture them but we've got all the different varieties we've got a few different uh blends that are uh blends and roasts that are coming we've got mr bogus pumpkin spice experience but then

we're also going to be adding um protein powders and other things like that to the casper marketplace so we're really really excited for all this stuff i'm really excited for our mct protein mix for working out and we're working with uh specialists on the proper formulation for exercise and all that stuff so we'll get to that point we get to that point but i'm really excited to be able to launch that that's actually a lot easier to launch surprisingly because when it comes to like making protein powders and supplements i'm not gonna do any vitamins or brain blast or any of that stuff it's gonna be like protein for exercising and MCT for energy when you're exercising. But they make that stuff.

And then we formulate how we want it. So we want a certain mix of MCT and protein. So you're getting fat and you're getting protein. And then we work with a specialist to make it. But they have huge batches ready to go to formulate and mix. So they can make it a lot faster with coffee. It's like we have to roast it and make sure it's fresh and ready and all that stuff much different much different but uh man i'm torn between the appalachian knights and the and the bocus i'm sorry the roberto jr i gotta try roberto

jr rise with roberto again it's so good do we have any in the house uh no we need to get more yeah yeah just we it goes so quickly sold out but i'm really excited we're gonna get a whole bunch of k cups here so we'll have all those ready to go. Sweet. And then the first order I think we're doing is not biodegradable, but we're talking about them because we told them we wanted biodegradable or nothing. And they said, well, then nothing it is. And we were like, what can we do? And they said, do a run with non-biodegradable.

And then once we get up and running with manufacturing biodegradable, it'll switch over. Cool. Yeah. The thing is, though, to be honest, the biodegradable ones, they're better yeah the thing is though to be honest the biodegradable ones they're better for the planet they don't last as long no because they're not sealed the same way that uh that the the other k-cups are yeah so they so they're exposed to air yep all right if you haven't already my friends would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends become a member by going to timcast.com clicking join us because we are now getting ready for our members only uncensored show and we'll be

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all right. The show is not prerecorded. I am using your name, Bernie, specifically to tell you the show is not recorded. Um, yeah, it was a good one,

uh, at search.com on Twitter. And, uh, I'll be in the chat today so see you guys later so how would we read super chats

if the show was pre-recorded I have no idea but this guy was saying it annoys me because we worked so hard to make it live so come on bro alright everybody

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