Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #786 DeSantis 2024 Launch CRASHES, Trump JR ROASTS Event As "DESASTER" w/Tyler Bowyer

Episode Date: May 25, 2023

Tim, Phil, Seamus, & Serge join Tyler Bowyer to discuss Ron DeSantis' 2024 presidential run announcement crashing & failing, Trump launching a new video in response to DeSantis' announcement, Gavin Newsom freaking out over Target removing pride merch for children, & BLM heading towards insolvency. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And in a Twitter space, we didn't actually get to hear first because the Twitter space crashed, I think, several times. And it dropped down from like 700,000 people down to about like 98. And that was around like 100 and some odd thousand, I think, when he formally announced that he was running. And oof. Yeah, Elon and Ron are getting roasted over this. And I'm not here to drag out those guys i think they did something that was uh it was interesting launching a presidential campaign on twitter was a bold move but twitter was not able to handle it they just didn't have the

technology and i'm and and in this uh announcement you got this one dude uh what i can't remember his name david something this uh i think he's a. He says, maybe this is the biggest room ever. And I'm like, yeah, no. Red Bull had like 4 million people watching live when that guy jumped from outer space. And we had 200,000 live when Steven Crowder was here in January. So the initial announcement could have been big,

but I really do think they pulled wind out of their sails and then, you know, it crashed. I don't blame them for that. They overloaded it. It was very popular. But it is official. We're going to talk about this. And I think the biggest critique that I have is, man, Milo was correct about Ron DeSantis and charisma. And we'll get into it in great detail because I do think Ron is a fantastic politician. I think he's got great policies.

I think he's doing amazing things in Florida. But there's just something we've got to talk about when it comes to a presidential race. So we'll get into all that. Before we do, my friends, head over to TimCast.com. Click that Join Us button to become a member and support our work directly. And as a member, you'll get access to our Discord server and members-only uncensored shows Monday through Thursday at about 10, 10 p.m. They go live on the front page of TimCast.com. And if you're a member for at least six months or you sign up at the $25 per month level, you can actually submit questions and call into the show.

So smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Tyler Boyer. Hey, what's up? How's it going, man? Who are you? What do you do? I'm the COO by day of Turning Point Action. By night, I am the National Committee man on the RNC for Arizona.

Right on. So you're doing a lot of stuff. Yeah, a little bit. Right on. Well, good to have you here. That was simple. Happy to be here. We got Seamus Coghlan. I'm Seamus committee man on the RNC for Arizona. Right on. So you're doing a lot of stuff. Yeah, a little bit. Right on. Well, good to have you here. That was simple. We got to be here. We got Seamus Coghlan.

I'm Seamus Coghlan, creator of Freedom Tunes. We release cartoons every week, usually twice a week. We're actually not releasing a video tomorrow. We decided to push it off till Tuesday because I think that'll give us more time to really improve the quality of what we're working on. I also have a podcast called Shamer, which we will be airing tomorrow on Rumble at 6 p.m. Eastern. Hello, everybody. I am Phil Lamonti.

I'm the lead singer of All That Remains. I am an anti-communist, and I am a counter-revolutionary, and we are here with... And I am Serge.com. Rest in peace, Trina Turner. I had to say that. Amen. Yeah, and yeah, let's get started.

All right, here's the official story from the Daily Mail. Biggest fail in campaign launches in history. Ron DeSantis is mocked for shambolic Twitter room presidential announcement with Elon Musk that crashes five times and leaves users bamboozled. Yeah, it was around six o'clock. A few minutes before six, I get that notification because Elon is about to start this Twitter space. We're really excited to hear this.

I was really excited to hear it. And it started late and then wasn't working. And a lot of people, uh, man, I gotta tell you, I like Elon Musk. He does great work.

I like Rhonda Sanderson. He does great work, but I am not going to pull punches on this one. The obvious mistakes they were making, they did not properly plan for this. I have no idea how it came off so bad. For one, I understand if there's more people than you expect, but this is a presidential announcement.

Getting hundreds of thousands of people was obvious. When we had Stephen Crowder on this show, we had about 200,000 viewers. Now, if you're going to have Ron DeSantis and Elon Musk, you've got to prepare for that. I presume they did to the best of their abilities, but Twitter wasn't able to handle it. But here's the thing. A lot of people were saying, oh, you know, the servers were overloading. I understand that happens. No, no, no, no. Look, some of the problem was like the main host guy

was like, he muted himself randomly. And I don't think he noticed he was talking. The mid-sentence was mute. And then Elon unmuted himself while while I was talking. So you got an echo because they were sitting next to each other. I'm like, dude, those are production mistakes, not technical errors. And do this on Twitter. Spaces with Elon, it's huge for us, but they weren't ready for it, and it really pulled a lot of the wind out of their sails. Now, there's a lot of things we can talk about in terms of Ron DeSantis as a candidate, but what do you guys think? Yeah, no, I agree with you.

These are technical problems that should have been sorted out long ahead of time. It's kind of perplexing whenever you see a massive campaign that's well-funded and has a lot of time uh it's kind of perplexing whenever you see a massive campaign that's well funded and has a you know a lot of backing behind it fail at something so basic i mean it happens the best of us everybody makes mistakes but it's just such a lost opportunity i heard that uh it was because someone because they were using musk's account because he has so many followers that caused an issue i don't know how true that is that's just something i read um so i don't know

but i don't i mean it was boomer stuff right it shouldn't matter i mean if again if they just did it on youtube they'd had a million plus viewers and it would run fine yeah totally i mean or rumble this was almost klobuchar blizzard like level right like that like let's be real klobuchar, Blizzard-like level, right? Let's be real. Klobuchar, Blizzard level. It was near that. But yeah, they should have been prepared. There's no question about it. Now they're getting roasted.

It is funny, though, that at first the media was like, oh, it's stupid. It's going to fizzle. Then it got so much attention that it crashed. It's a lot of people, man. Don't get me wrong. I think that it would have been a good thing had it gone properly um i think that the fact that it was that desantis has totally been

ignoring the legacy media um i think that's a good thing right um i also think that it's good because it kind of puts the legacy media on notice obviously when you've got you know um organizations like vanity fair running that that headline they did where they say that they they should have been dave brought david duke or whatever i was dying you know it's ridiculous of course um and the the overall tone from the establishment media the the legacy media is you know ridiculous so so for conservatives to go to them and even even present an opportunity for them to cover is is almost silly because you know they're gonna say oh well you're just a racist nazi huh so there's no reason to talk to them when the twitter space got to around 460 000 people it was crashing it was it was crashing well before that but i got in right when it started and then

rapidly it rises. I tweeted out, looks like 460K might be the limit. This Twitter user, LoftyPixels, responded, YouTube had 750,000 live viewers for PlayStation Showcase today, LOL, and posted this video from PlayStation that had no problem with this. Let me show you some of the reactions we got.

We've got Donald Trump Jr. saying, hashtag disaster. Y man yeah just given ammunition yep that's a hashtag that's that's better than desanctimonious yeah yeah way better seriously way better that's trump jr and then i think i got one more here we go david wolf tweets failure to launch crashed ron to send us 2024 and uh sad faces from ron and elon looks kind of like cgi you know yeah it looks a little ai right well i mean there they're taking you know they're not just taking a swing at de santos they're taking a swing in musk because the twitter thing and the whole rocket crash crashing you know making the the link to spacex and stuff you know well you

brought up something interesting i think it might have screwed up everything if it was elon's account that screwed everything up and it switched over to David Sachs. That's what I heard. It changed the whole vibe of the whole thing where it wasn't like Elon asking DeSantis questions. It just like, it became like David Sachs. I got in the middle of it.

When it first launched, Elon was the host. Then DeSantis, then I think Sachs joined. And they both had speaking privileges and one of the technical problems was that while sax was speaking elon unmuted his phone and they're sitting next to each other so you start hearing a feedback loop and then i'm just like that's and but for elon to do that like why did you unmute your account what are you doing here well then it became david sax asking all the questions and no but it was supposed to be and it wasn't supposed to be no it was supposed to be oh it was supposed to be i mean

look they they they might say oh it was supposed to be elon i don't i don't see that why bring in sacks at all he was brought in before desantis yeah so isn't he like what is he like a british journalist or something no i mean he was he was like ceo of paypal i think oh okay okay so they're butts but they but i mean the whole thing was sold is like Elon asking the questions, right? Like even like we were going to the war room. Elon hosting a space with a special. Yeah, it was supposed to be like the Elon interview type thing and it didn't really happen.

Yeah, it didn't really happen. It was just like softball city. And then after the crash, it just was, it was just not good. I mean, a lot of people left. That took a lot of wind out of the sails. I mentioned it yesterday. Dude, yesterday, we wanted to lead the show off

with the Target story because now it's getting crazier. Target is, apparently the CEO should have statement saying, yeah, we're going to get rid of a bunch of stuff, but we're going to double down. Basically saying,

we're going to try and hide this from the general public. But instead I'm like, okay, they basically released this launch video, so we have to cover it. but then what is there to cover today if we if not just the same thing we already know okay dude's running for president then of course we got lucky in that they failed so like i i shouldn't a little mean it's a little mean they they did do the space they did get the message out they did get the announcement

but i i do feel like uh we got news out of the fact that they kind of screwed up the launch and they lost the majority of the audience that was ready for this announcement but it was like a snooze fest yeah it was it was a snooze i mean like you got in there and you're like wow there's nothing interesting here you got to come with some well i mean think about it no bangers i i left relatively quickly the new the only news that was there was was it being done on a space everyone knew that desantis was gonna run and just desantis didn't have anything there was no pizzazz to his actual speech or anything so really come with something so it's like it really was the interesting

thing was the fact that it was on twitter for the first time and then it went bad they ruined it could you imagine if elon abruptly launched a space and then said ron desantis is making a big announcement they that would have crashed all of twitter way faster than this would have so maybe totally maybe they're trying to avoid that but even in that regard desantis really screwed this one up his camp his campaign because they could have gone on rumble and they could have done it with dan bongino and that would have would have held up just fine but he was like oh elon musk he's's big, we're going to go for this. If he abruptly appeared on a live stream with Dan Bongino

and Dan was like, I'm being joined by Ron. I don't know if Dan would want to do that because he's more of a Trump guy anyway. But if Ron did a show, any live stream, and they tweeted out, Ron DeSantis is here and he's about to make an announcement, you'd get 2 million live viewers. Instead, they were like like let's announce it

announce exactly what we're gonna announce and then have a crash and it's just like they end up with 190 000 or some odd people listening when ron de santos makes his presidential announcement and i was just like totally it's it's good but for a presidential announcement come on dude we had steven crowder in here on january and we cracked that number and he didn't even announce he was running for president right yeah no Yeah, no, he was just complaining. He was just complaining about internet drama. His internet drama. PlayStation, like I mentioned, did a showcase of video games at 757,000

people. That's brutal, man. Yeah, he should have maybe saved this Elon moment for something that was like really newsworthy. You know, like a big deal. Like the Steven Crowder moment, right? Like where everybody's paying attention and they're hanging on every word they could have saved this for something big at the right moment to drop during the campaign i feel like yeah i don't

know if this was the moment i don't know this is like everybody knew it was coming it's like it's a they brought nothing into the table it's a bad start yeah i mean do you think it was just an effort to associate himself with elon because elon is not necessarily on the right or left but the radical left really hates him and the establishment is trying to fight him or vice versa i don't know man i don't know i i think what's interesting out of this is trump versus elon i think that's a more interesting dynamic i think this is going to be like i think trump's going to attack elon more than he's going to attack anybody else over the course of the next week. Why Elon?

I mean, he attacks Elon all the time. I don't see how that's good in any way. For him? I don't think so either. I just think it's interesting. It's going to be interesting to see him attack Elon coming out of this thing as like, I mean, he's like, you know who he reminds me of a little bit? I don't know if you guys know sheriff joe arpaio yeah sheriff joe and phoenix where i'm from remembers every single

person that wronged him ever and puts him on a list and attacks that no no no no daylights out trump doesn't do that trump is trump attacks you only until you're nice to him yeah as soon as you're nice to him then he's buddies with you trump is is as deep as a ted like lion ted yeah i mean we'll see if elon you can be pro trump and still be honest the guy is like the guy has no principle his principle is winning he's saying tiny ron desantis yeah after the primary he's gonna say titan ron desantis exactly titan ron desantis DeSantis he's a big man he's a big man you know he's a big supporter

we had that thing in the primary but he came around this is one of the things Trump really understands about politics very well so many people in media will lampoon him for that kind of behavior the fact that he'll just do a complete 180 on a person and I agree there's something there that's laughable but the media does that constantly

they're equally shameless yeah they see uh bill crystal i think called trump an alpha today or yesterday it's it's so typical alpha and what they'll also do is you know they will forward a narrative that narrative will be completely disproven and then they'll just jump to something else or sometimes they'll jump to a different narrative which is completely contradictory to what they were stating their goals are when representing the other narrative so the media will take advantage of the american people having this short attention span and not considering how current statements line up against past statements and then they'll laugh at trump for doing the exact same thing let's uh let's let's do it we're going to play the announcement for you it's a it's a i guess it's seven minutes long and uh before i start i just want to mention we have a super chat from uh where where are we at

who who said it um beagle cakes says who has i don't know who has more charisma mark zuckerberg or ronda santos so i mean it's a little biased start but let's just play the play the video for zuckerberg because you can roll jiu-jitsu yeah um i understand that you may have an announcement to make uh we've got i think a record audience assembled here uh you know probably the biggest uh room that's probably ever been assembled online uh what would you like that was such a sad statement yeah Yeah, there's 102 people listening 102,000. And is it probably the biggest online? What do you say ever? Assembled here? You know, probably the biggest room that's probably ever been assembled online?

What would you like to tell them? Well, I am running for President of the United States to lead our great American comeback. Look, we know our country's going in the wrong direction. We see it with our eyes and we feel it in our bones. Our southern borders collapse. Drugs are pouring into the country. Our cities are being hollowed out by spiking crime. The federal government's making it harder for the average family to make ends meet and to attain and maintain a middle class lifestyle. And our president, well, he lacks vigor,

flounders in the face of our nation's challenges, and he takes his cues from the woke mob. I don't think it has to be this way. American decline is not inevitable. It is a choice. And we should choose a new direction, a path that will lead to American revitalization. We must restore sanity to our nation. This means embracing fiscal and economic sanity. Stop pricing hardworking Americans out of a good standard of living through inflationary borrow print and spending policies. And please embrace American energy independence. This also means replacing the woke mind virus with reality, facts and enduring principles. Merit must trump identity politics.

We must return normalcy to our communities. America is a sovereign country. Our borders must be respected. We cannot have foreigners pouring into our country illegally by the millions. We cannot allow drug cartels to poison our population with fentanyl. Public deserves safe communities and law and order must be maintained in American cities. We can't have inmates running the asylum and we must reject attacks on the men and women of law enforcement. We also must reestablish integrity in our institutions.

This includes the military. I'm proud to be a Navy veteran, an Iraq veteran, and I revere our services. But when revered institutions like those in our military are more concerned with matters not central to the mission, whether it's global warming or gender ideology and pronouns, morale declines and recruiting suffers. You need to eliminate these distractions and we need to get focused on the core mission. We also cannot have true constitutional government if the most significant issues are decided by the whims of unelected bureaucrats rather than the people's elected representatives. Re-establishing integrity in our institutions means we must reinvigorate our constitutional

system by returning the government to its rightful owners we the people no social that was just come on without representation truth needs to be our foundation oh my gosh it's only been two minutes and 50 seconds virtue and in florida we proved it to be done we chose facts over fear education over indoctrination law and order over rioting and disorder we the words are great when right the words are great the delivery but it's like an ai saying it exactly it's like tech it's not even like an ad it's like a text to speech like microsoft sam to be fair i probably would have had more inflection. Recently ranked number one in education. We have a 50-year low crime rate and one of the lowest tax and debt per capita in America.

But we also understand governing is not entertainment. It's not about building a brand or virtue signaling. It is about delivering results. And our results in Florida have been second second to none we can and we must deliver big results for america i pledge to be an energetic executive that will oh that woke me up that was great policies that are hurting working people we will reverse those policies and we'll build an economy where working Americans can achieve a good standard of living. Biden's opened the southern border and allowed massive amounts of drugs to pour into the country.

We'll shut down the border, construct a border wall and hold the drug cartels accountable. Biden's embraced medical authoritarianism such as unconstitutional COVID vax mandates. We will ensure that those violations of liberty can never happen again. Biden's allowed woke ideology to drive his agenda. We will never surrender to the woke mob, and we will leave woke ideology in the dustbin of history. Biden's also politicized the military recruiting to plummet. We will eliminate ideological agendas from our military, focus the military on the core mission, and we will reverse the poor recruiting trends. Finally, Biden's weaponized the power of the administrative state. This is a cruel and unusual punishment agenda. We will reconstitutionalize

the executive branch and we'll bring the administrative state to heel. Now, you can't do any of that if you don't win. There is no substitute for victory. We must end the culture of losing that has infected the Republican Party in recent years. The tired dogmas of the past are inadequate for a vibrant future. We must look forward, not backwards. We need the courage to lead, and we must have the strength to win. And to voters who are participating in this primary process, my pledge to you is this. If you nominate me, you can set your clock to January 20th, 2025 at high noon, because on the west side of the U.S. Capitol, I will be taking the oath of office as the 47th president of the United States. No excuses. I will get the

job done. Now, these past few years have given me a new appreciation for the fragility of our freedoms. I never thought I would see things in America that we saw during the COVID-19 pandemic, but our founding fathers were keenly aware of the fragility of freedom. When they framed our Constitution, they came to arm with having studied the history of every republic and the history of mankind. And they noticed that all of those experiments only had one thing in common,

and it was this. Every single one of them had failed. And so they knew it fell to our country, the United States of America, to determine whether people could really govern themselves. Could we have a society based on the idea that our rights are God-given, not government-granted, and that society functions

based on the rule of law, not the rule of individual men? And when Dr. Benjamin Franklin walked out of that convention, he was asked, did you deliver a republic or a monarchy? He said, a republic if you can keep it. They knew freedom didn't run on autopilot. I like the emphasis on you. They knew the generation would have a responsibility to safeguard freedom, and it's our responsibility to do so at this important juncture in our nation's history. We have a lot of work to do to ensure the country gets back on track. I ask everybody listening to please join me on this mission. Please invest in our campaign by going to rondesantis.com and making a donation

thank you god bless and i look forward to the discussion oh man i don't know what he does look i really i want to turn it off but it's like a presidential announcement so i thought like for the sake of hearing it people need to be able to hear it but dude yeah i i couldn't believe it when he got to the part about a republic if you can keep it. I'm like, listen, man, I like Ron DeSantis as a politician. He has great policies, doing a great job. But holy crap, did they not give this guy one minute of media training? Did they not have any kind of campaign coach be like, go watch Captain America one time.

And just watch any Hollywood movie where the protagonist gives a speech about saving the world. Just that. In fact, watch SNL as they mock that. Look, man. DeSantis people are probably going to get mad because they like him, but I'm not pulling punches. I like Elon. I like DeSantis, but that had negative charisma. Negative.

I agree. Look, I like DeSantis a lot. I think everything he was saying there was spot on every single word but i'll be honest i was i was literally bored to tears i mean it's remarkable to me that someone who said so many things that were so true that would have gotten a standing ovation from any group of conservatives who are outside of the establishment where they just delivered with a little bit more energy could be so boring when addressed in such a plain monotone way i think that you're right he needs media training again i'm not trying to be harsh on the guy there's a

there's a lot about desantis which is really really great he has to fix this he has to fix guys i really don't want to play this video for you because it's just i don't think ronda santos has the has the personality for for being president but for the sake of just letting you guys watch it for yourselves this is ronda santos's tweeted out official announcement video our border is a disaster crime infests our cities the federal government makes it harder for families to make ends meet. And the president flounders. But decline is a choice. Success is attainable.

And freedom is worth fighting for. Riding the ship requires restoring sanity to our society, normalcy to our communities, and integrity to our institutions. Truth must be our foundation, and common sense can no longer be an uncommon virtue. In Florida, we proved that it can be done. The music's bad.

We chose facts over fear, education over indoctrination, law and order over rioting and disorder. We held the line when freedom hung in the balance. We showed that we can and must revitalize America. We need the courage to lead and the strength to win. I'm Ron DeSantis, and I'm running for president to lead our great American comeback. I'm going to say something shockingly offensive to all DeSantis' fans. Oh boy.

Joe Biden's got better presence and presentation than Ron DeSantis does. Now, hold on there a minute. Before you freak out, Joe Biden does have a mental affliction, which gives Joe Biden the major... It's entertaining. When Biden says, okay, we get it.

That's incomprehensible, mumbled garbage. But at the very least, let me play a little bit for you. Sanity to our society. Normalcy to our communities. And integrity to our institutions. Truth must be our foundation.

Now imagine how Joe Biden would deliver that. Yeah. We got to bring some integrity. Some integrity, man. Some truth. You're everywhere. Come on, man.

Keep walking around staring off in the corner. I mentioned this before the show, but I think DeSantis needs to be able to announce that he's running for president with at least the same amount of energy that Joe Biden announced he had hairy legs with. Seriously. I mean, we need some actual spirit behind these statements.

I got hairy legs. I got hairy legs i got hairy legs like he meant it i was like i believe you i believe you joe they're very hairy super weird you're very creepy but i do believe your legs are hairy okay there's some level of enthusiasm you need and part of the reason that this is so difficult for people is because desantis and trump even though they're rivals they've been associated with each other in many ways, right? The establishment has smeared DeSantis in somewhat similar ways to the ways they smeared Trump before they started running against each other. Their bases were similar. But the thing you got to remember is Trump was an outsider. DeSantis

is a politician, even though he's not in line with the establishment on many of the things that they want him to be in line with them on. He's still a politician and he does, I mean, he has that boring political way of speaking. And I would go as far as to say it's actually worse for him than it is a lot of other politicians. So part of it is we have this expectation sent by Trump that we should have a leader who's really going to be charismatic and energetic and also the fact that desantis is like even more boring than most other politicians are when he speaks even though i like what the guy does even though he's he's very much impressed me i mean one of one of the things he said earlier on quite a long time ago is that he didn't want to be in a political foxhole with anyone who wasn't pro-life i think that's fantastic i mean i think that is fantastic there's a lot he does that's

phenomenal but man you gotta you gotta tune the energy up man well turn the energy up so i have his quote it's he said but we know our country is going in the wrong direction we see it with our own eyes and we feel it in our bones i am running for president of the united states to lead our great american comeback if you were to imagine imagine Joe Biden saying that, he'd say something like, but we know our country's going in the wrong direction. We see their own eyes. Come on, man. We feel in our bones.

I'd rather he'd probably say, we feel in our biggums. Yeah, he would say something wrong. I don't know what that word is, but I'm not trying to say that Joe Biden conveys ideas properly. No. But the emotions in those ideas. He's been doing it a lot longer. He has a lot of big feelings. Yeah, good old Joe.

I mean, running big events. I mean, we run some of the biggest events at Turning Point. And shout out, we just announced that Trump's going to be speaking at our big action conference on July 15th and 16th at West Palm Beach, right before this. But doing this, I think what was the weird part about this whole announcement is you have to warm up the speaker. They should have treated this whole thing.

Like it was, he was going on stage. I mean, they had a video of him on a big stage. It's him in front of a flag without cheering all of the back. None of it felt like there was a big crowd there. So they're putting, they're showing this video of him like solo in front of a flag and they're on

Twitter spaces. And he came in cold after a technical difficulty why did they have a whole program where it was like warm-up speakers get the crowd hyped like add to the like the way like they should have built the thing up to be hundreds of thousands of followers i would bet anything that that exact video would have been fine if they didn't use pensive staccato violins yes Yes. If they'd have had better music that actually had some impact. I'm telling you, I

am telling you. I think the visual of him just like alone though. I guarantee that music was pensive that made people feel anxiety. It didn't feel epic. Seriously, that kind of biking? Absolutely. No, no, no. Look, look. I think the music is fine, but not with this presentation presentation i think the presentation could work if it had

better music you get this really intense boom and he's going and we've got to have truth in our nation it's like they do not go together let me let me point out this one piece here you're not able to see him on this twitter space right which i think is so stupid i mean this isn't you know what is this this isn't like the early 20th century you can't see the guy i know this is basically like radio he's basically an fdr you know he could he he couldn't walk maybe he couldn't walk maybe he maybe didn't have functioning legs we want to know with him he's using this medium that nobody can see him with a video they should have built this whole thing where it was like his whole production they've had months and months and months and months that where it's like he's in a room with a lot of people why can't you why can't you do

this whole thing in a room with a lot of people yeah yeah no i mean it's a good point i think you were absolutely spot on when he said there should have been an audience there energy stage there should have been people cheering for him a warm-up act yeah i'm actually i'm actually but this this is sort of what i'm saying right it's it's remarkable to me when something with so much money and power behind it is done so poorly i mean these are really basic things you don't have to be an expert political analyst to know that those things would have helped him and not just that they would have helped him but that they're kind of bare necessities i just i would have thought they would have at least had some kind of general media training and and what gets me is that was their finished product that was them saying we we got

it did we get it we got it we're good we're good ron that was high five yeah like when we watch these biden videos and they're jump cutting like crazy because you know the dude is completely incompetent incapable of speaking at this point you watch watch that, and I'm just thinking to myself, they rapped. They went through the edit and said, guys, this is it. They could have called them back in and said, hey, Ron, we really need to have a coach here who's going to tell you how to say these lines.

So, like, for instance, when I'm doing, Seamus will ask me to read some lines for Freedom Tunes. He's got a beer to tell me how to do the lines, because it might say something like, oh, boy, I'm going to go buy an ice cream cone. And then I say, oh, boy, i'm gonna go buy an ice cream cone and then i say oh boy i'm gonna buy an ice cream cone and then shames like no say oh boy i'm gonna go buy an ice cream cone like you gotta say it's yeah short here like you need direction when he didn't have it when we're like when i'm when i'm recording like we're doing a record or whatever there's three things that the producer's gonna

tell me he's gonna tell me either my timing's bad he's gonna tell me my notes are bad or he's gonna tell me i don't believe it. You've got to believe it. You have to be performing. If you're up there and you're talking to a crowd, you need the crowd to believe what you're saying. They need to believe that you believe it. That's the first thing.

You have to believe it. You have to tell them that you believe it. And this is why Trump basically always crushes, right? Because he always, always sells that he believes it and this is why trump basically always crushes right because he always yes always sells that he believes it this is why he can get away with going on television and saying something completely different than he said a few days ago about a particular person because when he says he believes it exactly exactly he's really in it people likely he shows up and just starts talking yeah yeah there's a weird element to that that people

like they've liked since day one and that's what lit a fire under people to be like oh you know what i don't like ted cruz anymore i like donald trump that's what happened in 16 so the the trump camp released a video exactly at the moment i guess the twitter space crashed yeah and this is so i want i want you i want to play this guys for you uh play this for you guys. This contrasts the Trump campaign with the Sanders campaign at the same time that he was launching. The Washington established politicians like to talk about how they can be just like Donald Trump. The truth. There's only one Donald Trump. Only one who gave us the largest tax cuts in history, who gave vets the

health care they deserve, and stood up to China and protected your job. Only one who kept us out of endless wars while destroying our terrorist enemies. Only one who fundamentally changed the Supreme Court, was called the most pro-life president in history and relentlessly protected our second and our borders why would we ever settle for trump imposters make america great again when there's only one starting day one who can make America great again. I'm Donald J. Trump, and I approve this message. Look how, like, very epic this video is.

This is not an announcement. When Trump made his announcement earlier, it was a lot lower energy, but still better than DeSantis. Now, I'd like to play for you a DeSantis War Room clip released just about 45 minutes ago. And here it is. One second, if you remember that music that Trump did. I'm sorry. The music that Trump had. We need an honest reckoning about what happened during COVID.

And the only honest reckoning is that all of those agencies, all of the elites, the public health establishment, they failed. They instituted bad policies. Okay, I can't play anymore. Why is Elon Musk in this? Yeah. What is this video? It's the weirdest. This is the weirdest war room post

I've ever seen of anyone's war room in the history of war rooms. This is crazy. I'm just, when that space happened and I got my phone open and I'm sitting in my living room and I'm like,

all right, let's hear it. I just went, no, they're disconnected. Are you kidding me? Barack Obama. So a lot of people, I see one super chat, you know, people are saying like, well, but what about the policies? We know the policies are good. We've repeatedly said, run to Texas, great policies. But did Barack Obama get elected on policy? Did Donald Trump get elected on policy? Sort of. Donald Trump gets elected by being authentic, by going on stage. And when the when Megyn Kelly tries calling about saying you call women fat pigs, did he go? Well, no, I did.

You're mistaken. He went only Rosie O'Donnell and everyone's busting out laughing. He didn't he didn't deflect. He didn't say, well, that's not true. That's out of context. He didn't try lying. He just owned it. He owned that.

They were in a smear. I was like, yeah, Rosie O'Donnell. She's like wow it is impressive to see the media take a swing at the king and miss yeah with this oh man well then that's the thing well no i just want to say everyone's going oh but his policies are good his policies are good we know that's why this critique is important because we're saying we want the policies that he's going to promote in this country to flourish and in order for them to be able to do so he has to be elected right and whether he's elected to promote in this country to flourish. And in order for them to be able to do so, he has to be elected, right? And whether he's elected in the primaries or whether he runs for president later on,

whether it's the 2024 cycle or 2028, this guy has to do something about his presence. Barack Obama blew up kids and got reelected. Yes. So when you come and you're like, but the policies, I'm like, no, I know the policies are great. We can praise them all day and night. Yeah. I can say it over at best governor, policies fighting esg fighting the wokeness man

i love that stuff and then he goes up on stage to speak in front of a bunch of americans who don't pay attention to politics who don't know anything about policy and he goes i think truth doesn't matter is in this country and they're like who is this boring exactly it's boring barack obama was a celebrity he got elected because he was charming. Look at Trudeau. They said Trudeau got elected because women found him attractive. Or I'm sorry, I should say women voted for him. Many said they voted for him because he was attractive.

He was dreamy or something. He did that yoga handstand on the desk and he's a surfer. And they're like, oh, wow. People don't look to leaders based on doing deep analytical research on their policy positions they vote for them if they have charisma exactly and by the way i think it's a good thing all the elections today are decided by low propensity swing voters and swing districts and swing states so when you when you break want to break this down republicans are gonna vote for republicans democrats are gonna vote for democrats and you have this fragment that exists of people who really don't want to break this down republicans are gonna vote for republicans democrats are gonna vote for democrats and you have this fragment that exists of people who really don't want to vote

and the democrats are chasing down those voters and those ballots better than we are so it's like who's gonna hype up their people more and give people more energy to go actually chase down those ballots and build that exactly so you might be sitting there saying like well i vote based on policy yes no me too that's, well, I vote based on policy. Yes. No, me too. That's what you should vote based on. Guess what? That's not why most people vote. So we got to figure out what makes most people vote and what makes somebody win.

And then if you want DeSantis to win, if we want DeSantis to win, we got to find a way for him to cultivate those things if those policies really matter all that much to you. It's charisma. If you have charisma, you'll be able to convince voters. You can convince voters without a message. That's what hope and change was. That's what Make America Great is. It's an empty shell that people can fill with whatever they believe is important.

You can take this message, and then you get to go ahead and put your values into it. So really, all you need is Riz all you need is charisma all you need to do is be able to convince people someone said uh on twitter we lost tina turner and ron de santis on the same thing oh wow oh they come in threes i'm just i'm just surprised that when you look at barack obama how ended up winning how democrats often win right they got to be charming they got to be charismatic bill clinton you've got to come out there and you've got to speak with passion joe biden is good at faking the passion and using his his dead son as a political tool to earn to earn sympathy him and this guy is as evil as they come does he just seems like a good guy

but nobody went to him and said we're're going to get you some, some training. Nobody, nobody said, Hey, that was a little dry. Can we try it again? He had nobody sitting there being like, when you say freedom, say freedom. Don't say freedom. No. Freedom. Yeah.

Freedom. Well, what concerns me more is that nobody was on his campaign. And I know some of the people that run his campaign, great people, but nobody was on this campaign that went, Hey, maybe we should really turn this into an entire, like a really well planned event. Like as if it were alive, like we shouldn't build this thing out to make it seem like it's much bigger than just the Twitter space because we can make it seem like everyone's

listening on Twitter, but that it's a bigger thing that they're not there or part of. And now they're part of something that's bigger. That would have been a bigger, grander plan. I mean, it just, it just goes to show that the energy is not there with Ron DeSantis,

but the energy is not there with his campaign and the people are surrounding him that are figuring out what actually works with, with the MAGA base that they have to try to court, which they're not doing at all. That's how you have to win. You have to pull away some votes from Trump so you've got DeSantis basically saying what Trump is saying in no way saying the only thing he's offered as to why he's better than Trump is that he doesn't think Trump can win it's like okay if that's your attitude then people are going to be like okay I'll take either one you're you're not making the argument

for vote for me because I'll win you're making the argument of either way it doesn't matter yeah it's really it's it's ridiculous if he's like well i think i'll win it's like okay your policies are the same all right see you in november well and that's also not a mistake that this is the mistake the republicans have made in the past we saw this with the lack of a red wave during the midterms the entire republican narrative was red wave red wave red wave there with the lack of a red wave during the midterms the entire republican narrative was red wave red wave red wave there's going to be a red wave and so there wasn't any actual unified messaging about anything else and they just assumed that they were going to step in there and claim all these victories i think desantis is probably making the same

assumption based on his behavior he's thinking i'll just step into the ring against trump and i'll win because i'm more electable well dude, dude, you got to work up to that. You can't just make that assumption. Milo was right when he came on the show and he said that Ron DeSantis had the charisma of something off-putting, like when you reach for something and accidentally touch something moist, like a wet sponge. I don't know if I would go that far. I just, he really bored me. He was saying things that I completely agree with. I should have been cheering for that speech and I was yawning. Honestly, that's what he's been told to do though right i mean they're like we need to win female voters back we went we need to win moms back well guess what guys in a primary

if it comes down to men vote for trump and women vote for desantis trump's gonna kill desantis because more men are gonna show up in the primary or not only that but a lot of a lot of the women who are voting are not going to just be for desantis because desantis is calm if they're primary voters it could be a coin toss yes but then guys are more likely going to be attracted to the gruff aggressive attitude alpha male but it could be a quote if all all that is rolling was rolling for is maybe people would prefer my attitude more. And I said it before, right? If we had someone as good as Trump but with a better demeanor, it would be great. But Ron DeSantis doesn't have the leadership charisma to win.

Now, if he wins the primary, he's got my vote. No question. Yeah, of course. I think his policy is fantastic. Of course. His policies are only mediocre because – in my opinion. If you look at Trump's announcement, the ones that we went over the other night, I have significantly stronger preference for the stuff that Trump was talking about than DeSantis. DeSantis gave the standard Republican stuff.

I mean, it was as boilerplate, boring, everyday Republican as it can get. And I think that's because he's trying to say, look, I'm not as extreme as Donald Trump, even though he's going to say he's going to try to attack Trump from the right. Apparently is that that's the that's the the goal, I guess. But even still, if you look at Trump's the list that Trump gave the other day that we were going over compared to DeSantis, I think that trump is actually offering better has a better grasp on the things that i'm interested in like really tearing up the bureaucracy well i was out whether or not he actually will do it i don't know but i was at mar-a-lago for trump's

announcement and i remember everybody going wow he came in really soft he was so soft he was like so i don't know if you remember he was or if you guys talked oh yeah she's talked a really low voice and went into it that's because trump needs to be more soft ron desantis needs to be more alpha male to sell himself and he didn't really produce that tonight yeah so you made an interesting point phil about the fact that desantis is going to try to attack trump from the right and this is what always happens during primary seasons right when republicans primary they try to be as far to the right as possible so that they can appeal to the hard line conservative base. And then when people on the left are running in the primaries, they're as far left as possible.

And then when whoever is selected is in the national election, I don't remember saying all those things or those things aren't relevant, whatever it is. But with DeSantis, part of what's really a massive weakness for him is the thing that he was best on the thing that the american people were most impressed with him about was his response to covid now unfortunately it is the case that while at the time the things desantis was saying were completely unorthodox. The establishment entirely rejected them. Most Republicans would not want to associate with you if you were saying those things

because the political science has changed, to quote DeSantis, these are perspectives that you're allowed to have. So that takes a lot of DeSantis' edge away, unfortunately. Even though he was on the right side of this virtually the entire time, because the status quo has changed he doesn't seem like an outsider anymore yeah that's a good point well and that and that's what happened to cruz right was cruz was the outsider in 2016 cruz was the outside guy everyone was like oh i want to

vote for ted cruz it's a little bit naughty you know with all this was because the establishment was going to attack every single person that supported cruz cruz had this massive following he had i think he had the most like small donations hey one iowa it ended up just being barely but he he had all the the most small dollar donations and then all of a sudden it just imploded because all these establishment guys dropped out dropped out dropped out started supporting cruz well guess what if establishment guys are dropping out and all these consultants and all these different states are trying to get contracts, they're not going to Donald Trump for the most part. They're going to be going to Ron DeSantis' group. And he's going to have a plan to deflect these people. And there's no plan. Last year, I was saying that I was leaning towards DeSantis. I was ready. I've

never been a big Trump guy. Trump wouldn't stop talking about me, me, me and talking about what was taken from him. He needs to get back on that message of this is what they took from you. He needs to get back on the message of, with your help, my election brought you a better economy, safer borders, better jobs, et cetera, an end to Middle East conflict. And then they took that all away from you when when joe biden became the president that's his angle after this launch from onisantis i i have just law like because i'm like i'm like leaning towards trump trump's got the guy who's going to go in and clean things up but you know detentions and maybe at this point i'm like 85 for trump because um it just

the the the the inauthenticity of it. The Twitter space was scripted. His speeches, they're scripted. Donald Trump is a guy who just gets up there and starts talking. And then they go, oh no, oh no, he's going off the prompter again. He's ad-libbing. And he's funny. Trump is funny.

He's personable. And he's got some, look, he's certainly crass and crude. And can be very insulting to people who are mean to him but what i'm what i'm trying to say is when he gets up there and talks he talks from the heart and he just goes for it desantis gets up there and he reads from his piece of paper in a very stiff and robotic way and then says thank you and then walks away and i'm like i don't even know if you mean it like you were saying about singing gotta believe it well i mean every single politician in 2016 I was chairman of Maricopa County, of the Republican Party of Maricopa County.

We hosted Trump for what became the first Trump rally. And I got a chance to meet every single candidate that ran back in 2016. And remember, we had like 16 of them or something. I can't remember what it was, 15, 16. And every single person that you meet typically in politics is totally inauthentic they suck you know i mean even like ted cruz like he wouldn't even talk to people he said in the back of his of his car that we with a driver playing plants versus zombies the entire time and it's like donald trump when you meet him he like

shakes your hand he's like i like your tie i like how you're doing tell me about your life let me see your kid let me hold your kid let me you know is this your grandma oh she's so sweet she has softer hands than you like stuff like that and like you like the guy immediately and there's nobody within politics thus far that i've ever met that's that authentic that actually cares about anybody who went to a trump rally saw it when the rally ends he walks up to the barricade and start just hanging out with people and i was like how does this guy have the energy for this yeah it's well and that's the thing about donald trump right he really is a once in a lifetime kind of political leader there's nobody who i'm aware of in american political history who's even remotely like him he's very unique

for better or for worse some people don't like that i like that a lot and there's not gonna be another guy like him who comes along no you're right that people can learn from this it's like guys like learn from it and that's what i would also say is if you're heavily invested in desantis and your position is desantis is way better than trump and you believe that okay then you should want desantis to learn some of that charisma so that he has a fighting chance. Yeah. But don't sit around and act like there's not a problem when there is one. There is a charisma problem with DeSantis.

I like him. You can't pretend that's not true. It is bad. It will do no one any favors to pretend that's not the case. It's like the Democrats who were trying to pretend that Joe Biden didn't have dementia when he was running in the primaries. You can't not acknowledge this because this is going to get him torn to shreds on the national stage. So I think Trump, I've said this to people before.

I think Trump is like Reagan on steroids. What people liked about Reagan was that he would get up, he'd make jokes and people were like, oh, he kind of reminds me of like my friend or my grandpa or my uncle. Like that makes jokes all the time at Thanksgiving. And like, I like that makes jokes all the time at thanksgiving and like i like that about him and like trump is like like reagan on steroids when it comes to that but it's why don't people i don't understand like how somebody's running for president and it's like you don't learn from at least pieces of that elements of studying from any other president in history yeah just like like the successful ones that are like that do well florida's never had a president have they i was uh reading something that said florida hasn't sent has never sent a uh no president

i changed my mind then they're overdue now uh they are due but are they the generals or are they the globetrotters man it's just it just bums me out to see such a lost opportunity yeah that's it's it's you know first impressions can be everything and probably in a political in a political campaign your announcement speech needs to hit heavy heavy and this was it was it i mean first of all like you were saying it's just there's no video what is it like radio it's like the advent of radio it's like fdr yeah i mean they really did not think this through yeah there's plenty of time there is plenty of of time. He could turn these things around. That's also why constructive criticism is valid and important. Like I said, if you really like DeSantis, you should really be willing to hear these criticisms.

And the people at his campaign should, too, because I think this is what the guy needs. I don't think they are. I don't think they are. When I tweeted innocuously about Jazz Jennings, because they're living in Florida, and I said, where's DeSantis? His press people started attacking me on Twitter, calling me a grifter. They're so out of the... I can't believe how bad this is. No, I'm sorry. I can believe it.

It's just... Somebody's telling him, like, here are great policies. Here's what the people want. He's like, great. And then he goes on stage and he goes wah, wah. And then his press people are like, no one better insult Ron DeSantis. Okay. Well, if your immediate reaction to any light criticism is to start insulting those, you may as well just be a Democrat. You may as well join the left

because your candidate's never going to improve and you may as well just be a cult. You made an interesting point about charisma. You said it makes you feel like that person is your friend. I was thinking the exact same thing a little bit earlier. People don't realize this. Having that charismatic power is something that a person might see as a thing that a politician needs and therefore a politician's trade and something that actually sets you apart from ordinary people. But it's the exact opposite. When someone isn't charismatic, they come off like any other politician. And people aren't as patient and they're not as interested in hearing what they say because it comes off, like you said, as fake. Just comes off as, you know,

this guy's reading off of a script. I'm not doubting DeSantis' sincerity. I think he believes everything he read there. I'll say it again. I like DeSantis. But he really has to work some energy up. He really needs to get some coaching on how to be more charismatic.

Nobody in this room needs a script to explain their position on the border, on crime, on war, and on woke ideology. No script. And and in fact if you were to go up to anybody in this room in the public and say give me your thoughts on modern politics and tell me how you feel it might start soft and then it'll slowly escalate as we get more impassioned yeah and and and it pulls out that anger of the things we're frustrated with the things we want the average trump voter could do a better job the average in my opinion

you take a random trump voter put them on stage to the microphone and say rally the people and tell them why you're mad and the and it's going to be some middle-aged you know factory workers and say i lost my job when they opened up those borders and they bring in non-citizens to reap the benefits of my labor and then put me out of work. And the crowd goes, well, that's screaming. Ron goes, our borders are open. Right. And we shouldn't allow. Oh, man.

Well, I don't think it's a lack of sincerity. I think that there are just some people who are more monotone. Their temperament is such that when they say things, it's less exciting and interesting. Again, I think that's something you can work on. I think that's something that could genuinely improve. And by the the way room for improvement is not just a euphemism for you're bad at this it means you actually could become better i think the santas could become better at this you brought up a really interesting point which kind of overtures with what we were talking about which is this should have been programmatic there should have been someone

warming this the stage up they should have built this thing to like a million concurrent listeners or whatever. They should have set a goal, like a bar, like, hey, we're not going to send it out. They shouldn't have announced it. They should have announced it. They should have just got this thing organically, like, everybody get on Twitter right now. But look, you said something that was really interesting. Donald Trump

has done since day one, our very first rally, which turned into what was the first Trump rally, his team, and I think this is Corleandowski, deserves a credit for this. They had invited angel moms, which were the moms, for everyone that's a listener, everyone here knows this, the moms who had a child die

at the hands of an illegal immigrant. And that happened in Arizona. This was the first rally was on illegal immigration. But he had invited those people. So before he got up like they had done exactly what you said yep they appealed to the audience and they're like oh wow i've never seen a politician do this before so by the time they got up like everybody was like in the room like heated like they could have done that like again lessons learned from they could have said nothing posted no videos they should have done it on uh

maybe joe rogan if rogan would have them but like a big show videos. They should have done it on maybe Joe Rogan, if Rogan would have him. But like a big show. And it should have been on a platform that can handle it. And then what happens is one hour before the announcement, they tweet out. Ron DeSantis could tweet, I am joining whatever show to discuss, you know, discuss a big change in my life. Tune in. You'll get a mix of people saying is this going to be an announcement is what's going on this got to be the announcement two million three million

people would be watching and then you would say you guessed right i am announcing i'm running here's why that could have at least made up for some of the charisma gap yeah instead they did this wonky poorly planned thing and i mean poorly planned in the sense that they announced in advance or was leaked in advance then they put up a video so it told all the wind out of their sails a bunch of people probably said okay i don't need to watch it thanks i already know he already announced then they had the problems on the stream itself it's you know what i think i think they're sitting in their planning room and someone goes what if we we announced on twitter with elon oh that's a really good idea let's do it and he was like sure okay and then they didn't no planning

no planning no tag no no uh no program you got to think about what happens before you got to think it with Elon. Oh, that's a really good idea. Let's do it. And Elon was like, sure, okay. And then they didn't. No planning. No planning, no tech, no program. You got to think about what happens before. You got to think about what happens during. You got to think about what happens after. When we do shows like this, let me tell you, my friends, we have, I believe, four different internet systems. I'm not going to say too much more than that for security reasons, but we have backups upon backups upon backups.

Now, people have pointed out, they're like, Tim, your shows have had problems before in the past. Yeah, technical issues do happen. We've had our backups fail. We've had weird technical issues. No problem. We are not running for president. Yeah. No. And when I... You can raise $100 million for this.

Seriously, we don't need billions of dollars. We're doing a internet live stream show on YouTube. Well, there are backups for this live stream show, and when I do finally formally announce my candidacy for president of the United States, we're going to make sure the infrastructure is in place so that it doesn't cut out or crash. Someone said that he did take authenticity

training. Let me double check that. Is that true? Someone said he should have gone on Alex Stein's show. He failed. Seriously? If he went on Alex Stein or Glenn Beck, it would have been way bigger. I mean, my biggest takeaway from this whole thing is exactly, I think, what the natural,

which is like, how is Ron DeSantis going to be able to hold up throughout this race with Donald Trump? And he's just going to... What's so sad about this, which I think really the undertones of everything is, is that I think everybody wants Ron DeSantis to succeed. Yep. I think, I think everybody wants Ron DeSantis.

No. To be around in 2028 and 2032 and to learn from it and to, and to pull from the base and listen to the base and listen to the grassroots. But what, everything that's, this is looking like is that it's the opposite no i i don't care who it is i want the person that's going to go into the government and harm the bureaucracy as much as possible i don't want someone that knows the ropes or whatever i don't care what they know i want them to know that they're cutting bureaucracy that they're getting i wanted to get rid of cabinet level bureaucracies cut them get

rid of the entire department of education like like make real as massive stance substantial cuts and if desantis is going to be like well we'll go in and we'll go ahead and we'll change some people around no not good enough for me i want cuts i want serious hacking with a machete to the federal government but i don't i don't know that ron that donald trump will do that either necessarily but i do think he'll get revenge on the bureaucrats so i i don't know what rich bear said but i did find a tweet from david marcus who said this is the most embarrassing thing that has ever happened to a presidential candidate it's not close just hold a rally yeah man all right well let's move on or do this let's move on like yeah seriously just could have done this done it on like do a massive rally it's like oh my gosh this is like trump here's here's the reality if they

did it on rumble i think it would have been a lot bigger but probably still would have crashed not trying to be mean we use rumble infrastructure but this is a heavy undertaking if they just did on a youtube show they would have been the official social media launch instead but let's uh let's jump to the story from the daily the daily beast and uh get a little bit more positive i guess target removes pride merch after right-wing media throws hissy fit hissy fit they call it so uh targets being boycotted they announced they're going to be removing their uh their a lot of their pride section hiding a lot of it but the ceo then says don't worry,

we're going to keep our commitment up. What they're basically saying is regular people have come in and expressed disdain so they need to hide these products. But publicly into the world, they're going to make sure everybody knows they're still doing it.

That is hilarious. Gavin Newsom tweeted, this isn't just a couple stores in the South. There's a systematic attack on the gay community happening across the country. Wake up, America. This doesn't stop here.

You're black. You're Asian. You're Jewish. You're a woman. You're next. So I would just like for everyone to consider very briefly what Gavin Newsom just said, that Target will remove all of their women's clothing because they because they're patriarchal or something.

Women can know you can't shop in a target is only for men now. Well, Tim, I mean, it makes perfect sense, right? I mean, there's nothing that people who don't want sexual perversion forced onto their children hate more than Asians, I guess. Did the Daily Beast consider it freaking out when you had to go to the Supreme Court to decide if a man could say, no no i don't want to endorse your your marriage of course the daily beast didn't freak out over that but this is it this is what cabinet everything dude was that freaking out like they said they say republicans are freaking out like

they took the guy it's to the supreme court that's was that was that a hissy fit well hold on if it's a break if it's a hissy fit if it's a hissy fit, then is it not also a hissy fit to say, oh, you don't want sexual perversion forced on your child? You must hate Asians and black people. You must hate minorities. What are you talking about? What on earth are you talking about, Gavin? The hissy fit was a couple weeks ago in Nashville when a trans person went and killed a bunch of Christians. Right?

That's the hissy fit. Give me a goddamn break. No, it was a hissy fit when they were burning down Minneapolis, remember? And store owners were like, oh my gosh, how am I ever going to rebuild? And they were called that a hissy fit too. Yes. Infuriate. It's infuriating.

This is all a big charade of calling us out for when we get upset. But the reality is this, is that they've learned from the Bud Light thing. No, I think something happened. They said there were confrontations. I think regular parents that we don't know these stories. I don't think there's videos. I think regular people walked in and saw the weird sexualized stuff for kids and said, hey, what are you doing?

I'm not bringing my kids here. And so the left keeps trying to argue that none of this is inherently sexual when quite literally lgbt is a reference to a person's sexual proclivities literally so when they put that in a display with children's clothing on it expressing these ideas if if imagine if they had a bondage section for for kids not not i'm saying they're identical, these things, right? Some, someone. Both are perversions. Both are sick perversions. Well, I'm not saying that. You can say that.

What I'm saying is there's a difference, but they're both sexually themed things that in and of themselves don't directly show sex. What I mean to say is telling someone

that someone is gay, they're going to ask a question. Okay, well then, what does that mean? It's like, okay, well, now we're going to get into the birds and the bees sure showing someone bondage gear you say this is just chains and and silly clothing but what is it for okay now we're talking about the birds and the bees actually talking about kink so in some ways a lot worse imagine if they put put items on display which were intended for use in a sexual context that you know what i mean like

the parents would be like no that's what the left is trying to lie about they're saying it's not inherently sexual then when parent like we've seen the videos from pride where the guy's wearing the bugs bunny mask and jumping around naked like come on well here's the thing if it wasn't inherently sexual they wouldn't be so obsessed with trying to force it onto children and they wouldn't lose their minds when adults push back against it. Because the thing they claim is being attacked is their sexuality. Yeah. So, here's what I think happens.

If this wasn't sexual, it wouldn't be the hill they were dying on. Here's what I think happens. I think regular people walk into Target, see it, and go, kids, no, we're leaving. Yeah. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Well, here's what really, I was thinking about this today, about the whole thing. Remember the days when we just got upset that they were putting christmas stuff out like right after halloween yeah and now it's like i i mean i don't even know what is lgbtq month apparently

it's june so this is why it's out coming up mark the calendar guys it's not even june so they're doing the they're doing the same old okay it's like well june is actually american greatness month yeah it's actually the month of the sacred heart uh... Well, June is actually American Greatness Month. Yeah. It's actually the month of the Sacred Heart. And then July is MAGA month. Yeah, MAGA month. Yeah. But this, I mean, this is what's so crazy.

It's like, you're seeing this. And I think it's mind blowing to me that people who can't have kids, you know, want to exploit all of the LGBTQ community to kids like it doesn't even make sense to me it's bizarre i think they cross the line i think these corporations satanic they've reached the point where regular people are just saying we are not accepting of this we don't care if you're privately in your own home we don't care if you want to live your life and be happy but you started putting on prominent display in front of our children you started having people do sexual things in the streets

at these pride parades, which they do. You had, I think it was in Florida, they said you can't have adult shows for children. So one town canceled their pride parade. What were they intending to show kids at these pride parades? But why are they so obsessed with kids? I mean, a lot of, a lot. I mean, they're just saying they're saying the quiet part very

loud lately exactly what's happening they didn't have no interest in like there's a whole this play of like oh we're just trying to open up the eyes of children that we don't want to have like the vast majority of any gay couple that exists doesn't have kids they have no interest at all and so this isn't a lifestyle this isn't a simple lifestyle conversation this is literal straight-up perversion just trying to take advantage of but but the main point here that i want to make sure we're on is the the victory of the boycotts yeah that bud light is reeling and they're not getting these sales back bud guy was bud light was trending today to an absurd degree yep i mean it was hundreds of thousands of tweets over Bud Light, and their stock has dropped again.

The stock for Bud Light is now lower than when it started this year. So there was a period where I was like, it'll go down, but it'll probably go up because all stocks typically climb. But the backlash is getting worse for Bud Light. Now you've got North Face doing something similar, but they've been doing this for a while.

The fact that North Face is on their, i think it's our second year doing this drag promotion and now people are getting angry and i'm like i think the camel's back broke i think regular people for a long time said we'll tolerate it but we don't like it and then one day they walked their kids into a target and saw this stuff and got angry and they said that's it no none of it none of it at all yeah well somebody was explaining the whole distribution thing to me that part of the reason why they're seeing that the spike now with bud light is that the distributors finally have it's a wave yeah they've they've got the max it's just all sitting there and they're like no more finally so it's a lagging effect here right the first the

first thing that happens is that consumers stop buying and then distributors don't reorder but if some of the beer expires they may reorder yeah now they've got stacks of expired beer bud lights offered to buy it back yeah they said they will buy back the expired beer from these distributors which is crazy because why would the distributor buy new ones yeah the distributor's like i'm not i'm not gonna just have it sit and take up space it'll go bad again i'm not getting my money back yeah so you can have it but i am buying more so it's a delayed reaction eventually makes it to the distributors who say we're not buying it and then bud light sales get way bad so target who knows maybe they won't put out christmas stuff at after halloween i mean it's it's difficult holiday stuff sure some people have

the holiday gear so you know when it comes to beer you buy beer frequently if you drink beer and there's not really strong brand loyalty so it was the perfect boycott target some places only have target if you you live in some suburbs you have nowhere else to go target your place if you can however avoid it i recommend you avoid it and you're breaking you know these habits of like my wife you know ends up in target four times a week and it's like now you got to break the habit so you know i got a geo tracker and don't know, shut down the car or something. I mean, look, I don't care if there are people who say they have no choice and they have nowhere else to go. I'm not going to cry that they go to Target.

It's not the same thing as Best Buy. So I think the fact that Target's – I'm sorry, Bud lied. I said Best Buy. that targets i'm sorry as a bud light i said best boy i think the fact that they've already decided to start taking things down shows that they got impacted outside of any real conservative boycott i think regular people started complaining well someone brought this up today too it's like you know the target card you know a lot of again a lot of wives have a target card that's their credit card of choice you know just go with your wife and shut down the target card that's your first step so to say hey we're going to shut down the with your wife and shut down the target card. That's your first step. So just say,

hey, we're going to shut down the target card tonight. Shut down the target card. Target cart? The card. Oh, the credit card, yeah. Oh yeah, just get rid of it. Shut down your target card.

Get that done tonight. You can do that in two seconds. Just pay it off. Say, I'm going to pay it off. I'm going to get you a new credit card. It's going to be a beautiful credit card. What about Walmart? Are they woke?

I'm not. So I think that the the founders of the heirs were christian but i have no idea if that if they're still you know somebody was mentioning a good organization i don't know they found some stuff in walmart there was some posts but they were just kind of ducking and getting off the shelves real quick it was books i think uh yeah it wouldn't shock me. I mean, it's all so swampy these days. But Walmart's really good about really blending with the local community. So I'm sure it's more liberal and more liberal communities

and way more conservative. So they'll have Christian books up front. And I know in Utah, yeah, they have Mormon books up front. I bet my guess is it's probably a little bit more liberal liberal communities targets just like they they push everything the same yeah interesting so point i uh i just saw this uh someone from the new york times is reporting that when desantis was on with trey gowdy he finished it up uh talking about the federal reserve and that he was talking about the jerome powell and as part of his campaign he intends to blame the fed money printing for laying groundwork for inflation which is i

mean that should be obvious and any president that doesn't lay that out is suspect i mean i i don't know that trump would he might sit there and continue to uh to boast about all the money printing which is a terrible idea in my opinion but i personally i find things that are you know criticism of the the current monetary policy compelling personally so dc drano hosted a live right now our twitter space and uh it's been going it's been going 50 000 strong for like like i don't know a long time wow if it's been going 50,000 strong for, I don't know, a long time. I don't know if it's like an hour. 55,000 hasn't dropped at all. Cool.

But as for Target, I mean, go to Walmart. It's the same thing. Yeah. Just less Connecticut. Why are they in Connecticut? No, no. To me, Target is what walmart is just like but the connecticut version connecticut's nose in the air kind of southern

connecticut although the wealthy people well let's jump to this story we got more good news for everybody black lives matter teeters on the brink of insolvency after an 8.5 million dollar loss in 2022 you know they made something like i think $77 million in 2021 or something like that? So BLM's near insolvency? In three years. Dude, racism stock is going to be through the roof. Yeah, yeah. They only raised $9.3 million in 2022, down from $77 million in 2021 and $90 million in 2020. They're going to spend the next year.

That is a massive collapse. They're going to spend the next year advocating Donald Trump to get the to get the race or the racism up. They say Patrice Culler resigned as executive director in May 2021 of the public learned she spent 3.2 million on four separate homes on top of other lavish expenses. Prior to her resignation, she was accused of funneling

$230,000 to a company that belonged to the father of her child. Well, there's a bunch of nepotism going on in here, but hey, man, look, this is this is good news, news right people aren't donating anymore this is a lot moving into a 2024 election cycle if they had 90 million in 2020 and then two years later they're down to they're down by 90 percent that means the sentiment among regular people is not favorable for black lives matter and it means that many of these people may be waking up or may just be like, we're out of this, we're not going to be involved.

And corporate America, right? Because they got a lot from corporate America, which is really important in this case, is like the flip around on this with corporate America is really important for the future of the country. And maybe there's some hope there. I don't have a lot of hope for corporate America,

but maybe there's a little bit of hope. Things like ESG, maybe it's difficult. There's this period't have a lot of hope for corporate America, but maybe there's a little bit of hope. Things like ESG are difficult. There's this period, if we pull this up on civics, you can see that around in 2019, there was a flip. The majority of people now started to support Black Lives Matter. After George Floyd died, it spiked at 52%. But now, 43% oppose, 41% support. And among independent voters 45 oppose and it seems relatively stable but it spiked a great deal and that's the riots the rioting made independent voters say you know

what i do not support this group which is really great news for the republicans how many people lied because they were afraid they'd be called racist for for saying they don't support black lives matter yep do you know don't support black lives matter. Yep. Do you know the history of black lives matter, where it came from? Trayvon Martin. So yeah,

when it actually got, it start with student government in Missouri. So when the whole thing happened in Missouri, way back, what thing in Missouri, Ferguson, Ferguson. Oh,

right. And there was a student government the student body president here's a young black man they started a campaign basically using student government funds I was just like because they have slush funds on all these big universities and that's where the the name black lives matter came from I started well before that and he got picked up by yeah like those matters started with Trayvon Martin protests in New York City, I think. Pretty sure. So the Ferguson stuff was a couple of years later.

But they basically turned it into like a movement that they funded across all of the different universities, the student governments. And then that ended that kid in this White House with Barack Obama. His name was Peyton Head. When did Patrice get involved? This was later.

So then they formalized that as an organization, but still the tiny legs that it had were funded essentially through student government, which was a really interesting tidbit, which is a really important reason why you can't let these universities just kind of run rampant with this thing. Yeah, I remember in roughly 2013 when i first heard it 2014 when i

first heard it it was definitely trayvon martin at least that's what gave it legs on the national yeah it started july 2013 with the use of the hashtag black lives matter on social media after the acquittal of george zimmerman yeah because i remember i was down there in new york when i was covering those protests when all that went down and that was the uh that was the beginning and then there was some other guy who created something called Black Lives Matter, I think, before all of them. And they shut his... Just hijacked it all. Yeah, they stole it from him.

But they put... The money that got behind it was originally from... They latched onto it, identified it, and said, this is something. And so they took a bunch of student government money, which they were able to do across the country, landed it at the White House, solidified it. I think for Democrats, they're like, oh, we can get

votes from this. Totally. Let's play that game. This is a lot about the current state of politics in this country though, if BLM is officially not in anymore. They're not, people aren't donating, so that's it. We're going to be moving into a new era. I think I'm fairly optimistic,

especially with shows like this on the rise with uh i mean look at tucker cross and goes um independent launching his own network or his own online channels the rise of rumble elon musk buying twitter i think it's all looking fairly positive and they can't shut shut things down last minute on us yeah it's cool yeah there's hope yeah no i mean it's it's it's an you have to be remarkably financially irresponsible to mess a grift like that up you are the face of give me money if you're against racism anyone in corporate america who wants to be seen as virtuously contributing to the anti-racist cause has to give money to me how did you go broke how how did you go broke well they were spending a lot of questionable sums of money yeah exactly hiring

family members and their cause is a scam anyway yep well exactly right because there's never going to be any end point for them patricia at what point i got me come on at what point was bl i'm going to say all right we solved racism and money. And I will clarify that statement anyway. I am saying the idea that has perpetrated that they're, what did that kid say? 30% of black people are killed every year. These ideas of this mass systemic inequality is just completely untrue. Is there racism? Yes.

Is there racism in government? There is. Are there racist people? Yes, there are. To the degree that they've brought it up, it not true george zimmerman was a hispanic hispanic guy so this whole idea is launched off of this idea of of racism from white people and it's like do you mean when that hispanic guy fought with that kid like what are you talking about yeah or when michael brown it's confirmed by the the eric holder ag that he did not have

his hands up and fought the cop like we get it man you know like we don't want innocent people dying especially based on race but the the premise of what you're donating to doesn't make sense but hey i don't know what they did with it they're getting they're getting flack because they bought this big house yeah but if they bought a house to do a studio or something what are you going to complain about i don't think anybody who donated to BLM is crying about it right now. Some people maybe, but most people are probably fine that they donated to them. $1.5 million went to Patrice's brother for security.

Yeah. $1.5 million for security. And then you got to ask, so there are questions about, they said they didn't want to do traditional security or police because the distrust around policing but people think these sums of money means you already checked for a two million like a million and a half bucks to a guy and then he bought a ferrari no no this could have been licensing equipment staffing right so she also gave a guy 970 000 for live events or the organization gave live events and everyone's like oh that dude probably didn't see that money right organizing live events is very very very expensive i just want to mention something because tim you said that you know the people who donated to blm probably aren't too upset i just want to let everyone in this room know that we've all donated to blm because jb

pritzker gave three hundred thousand dollars in federal covid relief money to blm well i mean if you live in kind of him well but no it was federal covid relief money to BLM. Well, I mean, if you live in Illinois. Very kind of him. But no, it was federal COVID relief money. Right, right, right. Yeah, that went to him from the federal government. And Pritzker said, you know what? You know how we're going to relieve people of COVID giving money to BLM?

Okay, thank you. Well, I can tell you at Turning Point, running a large nonprofit that, you know, we've been very blessed to raise a lot of money. We've hired and staffing, we've staffed thousands of people over the years, right? Like we have right now and staff hundreds and hundreds of people between our organization, building that within a year, you know,

where did all that money go is a really great question because I mean, we're not talking about $10 million. We're not talking about 15 million. We're talking about literally they were in, they had transactionally hundreds of millions of dollars that they had access to essentially in capital that they worked with where did all the money go that's a great question right because they didn't where all the staff where's the blm stuff i know what it costs to put on a massive live event i know what it costs to put on these huge things they didn't do any of that so you know what we know of is just a very small sliver of what really bad things that

probably did actually happen because you don't know these things when C3, C4s, they file this stuff away. I don't even, I'm not even convinced BLM did anything untoward in a certain sense. You give them money, they can do what they want with it. They just couldn't build. There's no way you can build a hundred million dollar organization in basically a year or two years.

They've been around. That's what they had to do. But I mean, they, they, they, the same people were involved since 2013.

Right. But they, they, but they built the actual organization within like a year after getting all that money because they were taking, they were just taking in money

based off of the news and the climate and from corporate America. Like they just didn't have the capability of actually building this thing. So it's not a surprise that they've completely failed. Yeah. No, but I think that the important takeaway, as I mentioned earlier, is whatever it is that's resulting in people not wanting to give BLM money is going to have a similar rollover effect on everything else. And I think there's a lot of people who are wising up you know we were

skating in uh in hagerstown i mentioned this the other day and a bunch of local suburban maryland people were like yo crime is getting out of control what's going on and then these people started talking about gun ownership gun rights and i'm like there it is 2a is going to be stronger trump's going to win and it's because these suburbanite people are tied to the violent crime and the cops doing nothing about it. What do you do, though? Right. If your neighborhood is falling to crap, eventually you have nothing to do but just to ask that question. Yep.

And then you end up voting for the right guy. All roads lead to the same place when you're, you know, when you have actually the constitutional principles being followed. That's part of the reason why they want to destroy all of it. That's why they want to subvert all this with, you know, crazy stuff. Like, you know,

I saw some things on national popular vote, not to take us off, but rank choice voting. This stuff is really scary because no matter what the public sentiment is, they're trying to subvert whatever that is. That's, that's the future. That's what we're up against right now in the United States of America.

And they were waiting 10 years. I think there's bad stuff going on, but the bad stuff is just accelerating regular people waking up hopefully yeah hopefully let's uh let's talk about joe biden's broken brain from timcast.com seven and ten independents are worried about biden's mental fitness worried about how about convinced there is none he doesn't have mental fitness they say a new poll has found that nearly seven and 10 registered independents are worried about President Joe Biden's mental fitness ahead of the 2024 election. This is NPR PBS NewsHour Marist published on Wednesday found that 69% of registered independents believe his mental fitness is a genuine concern, while 27% believe his mental

fitness is being used as a campaign strategy by opponents. I love this because the way you frame a question always matters. If I were to ask the average person, do you think Joe Biden's brain is broken? I bet 70% say yes. If you were then to ask him, is it a concern? 70% say yes.

You see how they do this? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I can't imagine how people can have any kind of awareness of the president and not say, well, it kind of, you know, listen to him, you know. I mean, that's that's your standard kind of the reply that you would expect from the average person that doesn't pay a whole lot of attention to to politics. If you've only got, you know, if you dedicate 15 minutes a day to watching a little bit of news, so that way you feel like you have an idea about what people are talking about and you hear Joe Biden. Twice a week. You can't feel confident that this guy's, you know, laser focused on what's going on.

I can't imagine how that is. And obviously it's showing in the polls. Yeah. I mean, I just don't know how you could have seen Joe Biden say anything in public and not be worried about the status of his mental health. The best, the best the man does at public speaking is slurring his words instead of constantly gaffing. I remember when we watched his State of the Union address about a year and a half ago and it was probably the best he'd sounded in the last year and a half but he did sound drunk the entire time i'm not saying he was drunk i'm just saying his brain operates in such a way that when he speaks normally he slurs his words to the point where he sounds intoxicated i think

that one of the one of the negatives about the way that the twitter space went today is i don't see a convincing argument to get the president on a twitter space had this gone perfectly and it'd been great and and had everything worked fine then you could then you could okay, we have to get more presidential candidates on. The more you get, the more pressure it is on Trump and Biden. I would like to see that happen, but I feel like that was probably the biggest negative about this, is the fact that it doesn't lend credibility to independent media and stuff the way that I had hoped that it would. Well, Joe Biden would benefit from this like FDR did.

There is no way Joe Biden would. Yeah, Joe Biden. I mean, we watch him wander around stage for an hour. But I mean, this is like, I was thinking about this today. What greater, you know, this is the blm crossover here what greater vision of white privilege could possibly exist than the media and everyone else covering for joe biden and hunter biden like literally they've been trying to indoctrinate our kids they've been all of society basically on this false notion of white privilege and you've got an old guy in there that just wanders around

stage they they run you know cover for him the entire time his son is like literally the worst presidential kid ever to exist in the history yeah should be in jail for the rest of his life and this isn't white they're not talking about white privilege now this is crazy it's a wild thing he's like he's like the ultimate nepo baby that's ever existed seriously yeah and so joe biden though joe joe biden is benefiting from like the nepotistic elements of media where like they're covering for him because he can't literally conduct himself in a public setting it's crazy yeah hunter biden is really a remarkable character he is he is a caricature of what republicans suspected a democratic president's child could get away with like

really smoking crack that sounds like a joke right the man got on national television and said he has spent more time picking through the carpet for anything that even remotely resembles crack cocaine that he smoked more parmesan cheese than anyone you know and that's not even talking about his dad's mental health yeah his dad's mental health should be disqualifying and completely remember when uh nancy pelosi was preparing the 25th amendment committee or whatever and everyone's like it's for trump and then they went wait no it's for yeah yeah i mean the man is but that's white privilege my friends i mean the guy is getting away with like like the the kill shot white privilege out of the left we should be demanding

they hold themselves accountable the white privilege at this point since they spent so much time on it just embrace the white privilege narrative but focus on joe biden just focus on joe biden yeah just use it against them to destroy it that could help someone like the vague ramaswamy but then those be like but trump's an old white man too and it's like all right well then why don't you talk smack about both of them yeah but but the reality is the left doesn't like joe biden anyway liberals are the ones who vote for him but i don't think anybody actually likes him i think they're just like we'll take any warm body over donald trump yeah you're right though they wrote that article vivic should focus like exclusively on this kind of stuff well he's totally it's his campaign he's totally opposed

to it yeah so that's why he should focus on it take advantage of it yeah be like i'm going to win because you're going to you're going to demand that i win and then i'm going to change the laws and take away the ability of this to happen again that'd be great in the meantime we have to hope that joe biden doesn't accidentally like press the button or something right well i don't think well yeah yeah that wouldn't even be that much of a scandal they would try to spin that too like it was a mostly peaceful nuking. I bet Kamala Harris is the actual president because he keeps calling her President Kamala,

President Harris. I think it's far more likely that Barack Obama's phoning it in than Kamala Harris is doing it. I'm deathly scared. Being the Arizona here, I'm deathly afraid of this concept of potentially kirsten cinema replacing kamala harris what do you mean i just there's something really funny going on in arizona you mean like kirsten runs cinema is going to be the she doesn't have a real

shot i don't think right running for senate that just like the pathway is not there unless like there's just like something that's totally crazy so it's like what is she doing like what she has way too much money she's loved by the chamber of commerce she's loved by the establishment goons um i'm really afraid that they're going to just like do this like this the switcheroo the swapperoo right um and involve her in some way that because again you have to look at the map. You guys have talked about it here. You talked about with Charlie, which is part of what we talk about. Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia is everything.

So like getting Arizona taken care of basically takes the map off the table for the Republicans. And then people hate Harris. They despise her. They hate her. You put in a cinema and she's lukewarm. But a lot of people will be like, okay, well, Biden's incompetent, but cinema's, you know, eh, she's cool. She's whatever, right? Yeah, like okay well biden's incompetent but cinema's you

know she's cool whatever right yeah and then i wonder if you have to have a desantis just because trump i don't think trump can change his standing with the american people you either like them or you don't some people are probably for either for his policies or they're not i think enough people would be in favor of trump at this point but he's got maximum name recognition everybody knows and so if desantis is an opportunity or something new i think he would be in favor of Trump at this point, but he's got maximum name recognition. Everybody knows. And so if DeSantis is an opportunity or something new, I think he kind of blew it today, but I still think he can recover.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of time left here, but it's an eternity. I mean, at this point, I heard someone talking about it today. At this point in the 2008 campaign, it was Rudy Giuliani and Hillary Clinton that were obviously going to be the uh

the the people that were giuliani they thought that yeah at this point this far out they were they said that giuliani and clinton and no one could figure out you know it was like obvious and blah blah and then this young senator from uh illinois popped his head up and the whole world changed. Oh, man. Hillary was so pissed. Yeah, she was. It was her turn. I love it.

And then Obama beat her. Yeah. They didn't have their ducks in a row at the DNC. Yep. Well, they still don't, I guess. I don't know if anybody actually in government has their ducks in a row, be it the committees or the PACs or the campaigns, the parties. It's all just insane nonsense well the dnc will

control controls the process now after that happened that's why bernie came the dnc the dnc has had their finger on the issue the federal government has has had their finger on the the scale for the dnc definitely since brocco or since uh since um donald Trump was elected. Like Donald Trump beating Hillary Clinton was not supposed to happen. And after that, the federal government has had their finger on the scale as much as they can. They have been pumping out as much propaganda to all of the legacy media establishments that will take it. So the government looked at Donald Trump and said, this is a really bad thing. And it's been doing its best to make sure that Donald Trump can't get

elected again. So, well, and a lot of that comes down to the unpreparedness that the Democrats had in Michigan, which again, you want to bring up things that will never happen again. They will never let Michigan slide out of their hands again.

It would take a whole lot. It would take a massive, massive undertaking, a massive army for us to win Michigan. Yeah. But is Michigan one of the principal states we got to win 2024? It's one of only six or seven that matter. Yeah. And you look at what they did with the election law in Michigan, basically making it impossible for us to overcome cheating there, manipulation, not to get too far into the weeds.

But I mean, they spend tens of millions of dollars on ballot chasing, ballot harvesting. And until the right can match that, you're not going to get close enough to be able to even think about overcoming the manipulation that they do in those states. All right, let's go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends and become a member over at TimCast.com by clicking join us. We're going to have a members only uncensored show coming up for you at about 10, 10 p.m. You don't want to miss it, but we'll read your Super Chats for now.

We got Max Dolly says head greater than heart, substance p.m. You don't want to miss it, but we'll read your super chats for now. We got Max Dolly says head greater than heart, substance greater than sentiment. DeSantis 2024. It's a great slogan that will not play at all for the average American who only really cares about how you sound on stage. It's unfortunate, but it's true. So what we need in a president is someone who is clearly a charismatic leader who understands the policies the position the culture war we're not trying to get the b team i would take someone who's great with policy over someone who just spoke well any uh or any any day of the week we need somebody who speaks well and knows the policies so that we can win as a leader what do we got? Purple says, Twitter space, low energy, basic answers.

I agree. Very low energy. Bramid says, I just want to know how you could not call the pumpkin coffee Hocus Pocus, the spiced pumpkin brew. Ooh, that's good. Mr. Pocus pumpkin spice experience. Yeah. Focus with Mr. Pocus will be a medium roast, I think. That's what we're working on.

All right. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, sir, Mr. Poole, I loved your North Face segment. I agree. Once they started targeting children, they ripped the fence out from underneath us. There will be a reckoning for the line. Yeah, my point was basically this. I don't care if North Face wants to do a drag queen promo. I just won't buy North Face.

But now that they've moved beyond that into targeting kids, I'm like, nope, nope, nope, nope. All of it. None. It's basically like, I put it this way. Dude shows up to your party. You don't know who he is. And you're like, okay, look, I don't know this guy, but you know, my friend brought

him over. It's fine. Once the dude starts going over little kids and trying to sniff them, we say, get out, get out, get out. We were fine with you here, but now you're doing the weird kid stuff out of the building, go home. That's how I feel about it. Yeah.

Where are we at? Dylan Binkley says on the show the other night, you brought up Governor Gianforte legally defining gender in the state of Montana. You should have Rep. Michelle Binkley on and talk about montana politics more in depth love you tim uh sounds good are you are you dylan binkley related to rep michelle binkley perhaps we'll see that's the that's the kind of riz energy that uh desantis needs

get in there promoting his own family. There you go. Robert Bradbury says, let's go Ronnie D. Take down the guy that tried to violate 2A with the bump stock ban. I think he lost that one, though.

The bump stock ban thing? No, they're illegal, so. Oh, wait, no. The court struck it down, I'm pretty sure. You might be right. Yeah. It's just that the stores

that sold them no longer sell them already. So they did what they needed it to do. Angela Richter says, why would he phone in his announcement? It was horrible. If I were him, I would say it was all a joke and hide out. Yikes. TRX Patchup says, DeSantis should wait his turn.

He would be a great president in 2028. What's the deal with Kerry Lake's lawsuit? Does Tyler have any pets? We are an anti-woke alternative to woke, pet smart, chewy, and petco. We've got pets. Yeah, what's going on with Kerry Lake? Well, first off, I have a golden retriever, and I have a wire fox terrier,

but they're both Gilligan and Skipper. Kerry Lake. So just talk to Carrie's team. You know, been big allies with Carrie throughout this election. You know, she just, you have to understand the courts are not our friend. You're not going to get, we're not going to get where we want to go. In a state like Arizona, where you have establishment control for 50 years. I mean, we're talking 50 years. We're talking McCain machine has installed all of these judges, judges work their way up the ladder over

the course of their entire lifetime. And so if you're expecting the courts to be your friend in a place like Arizona or Texas, it's just not going to happen. And so it's kind of a mistake. It's a flawed strategy, in my opinion. I just don't think it's going to result. It's not. It's not resulting for Kerry. We know that they did a lot of wrong things. And unfortunately, we don't have attorneys. We don't have a legion of attorneys who are going to step up. They're going to basically have the intestinal fortitude to fight the good fight until losing their law license like the left hat. And that's where we're at right now across America. That's just not an Arizona thing. That's across America. So, you know, we're going to have to take some significant strategy here. And I think this is

part of, you know, I'm on the RNC. The RNC, I've been very vocal about this, has not done its job with producing the 100 plus attorneys that we need that can go fight the good fight and build our own Perkins Coy. We just don't have it. All right, Matt Burkhart says, all these Trump supporters roasting Ron are actively pushing for Democrat wins for years.

Trump will lose to Biden again. Killing Ron's momentum will leave ours with nobody else. We are telling you, Ron DeSantis lacks the charisma to win. It doesn't matter what anyone else says. It doesn't matter what Trump supporters say. I'm telling you,

you can't have a guy get up on stage and say truth matters. And freedom is worth fighting for. Because people people are gonna be like what's he talking about you got you you got to get up there and go the truth matters in this country you've got to have some emotion all right maybe not trump but you got to say listen in this country truth matters and freedom is worth fighting for that's why i'm here he can't even do that well and i'll say this i have no idea i mean maybe

desantis could win with his current level of charisma i'm not making any predictions about the future but what i will say is if you really like a candidate and you want to help make him stronger constructive criticism is an important part of that and what i am saying and what i've said repeatedly is i like desantis i like a lot of what desantis has done through his entire political career even before covet i found him interesting and like the things that he said. However, that doesn't mean he's perfect. And one of his flaws is a pretty major flaw, which is that when he speaks, it's not all that engaging. We can say that to him with the hopes of him working that out in a way that makes him more electable without being against him.

In fact, quite to the contrary, we want him to improve as a candidate. That's why we're saying this. At least that's why I'm saying this. I want DeSantis to be as successful as DeSantis can be. And I think that pretending that he doesn't have a charisma problem isn't going to help him. How do you practice charisma? How do you get better at it i don't know but i do know that there's a reason that political leaders will spend obscene amounts of money with people who coach them to try to become more charismatic and i

would suspect that's because they see results there are channels on youtube yeah like i'm not trying to be so harsh on on desantis i guess my point is just I the thing is, why do I find myself loving so much of what he says is really great. Like I like what he says and I like a lot of what he's done. I think he's been one of the few Republican leaders that we've seen in the past decade. He's been one of the best Republican leaders we've seen in the past decade. And I think that it is a shame that that message is going to be lost on so many people because there are people who support him and around him who are invested in not having him hear anything that will cause him to want to improve his delivery i would want to push back

on that a little bit because i don't feel like he says anything that's new i don't think that i totally disagree you think that he says new things well i mentioned this earlier where he was on covid was so far outside of the status quo that at the time it was very much a new thing now because he was clearly on the right side of that issue he's at the disadvantage of being so correct so soon where it doesn't even seem like an interesting position anymore hey even but i think that's a good thing it means he moved the goalposts in the right direction. Hey, even Michael Scott took improv classes. Like Ron DeSantis probably needs to take a few improv classes. Realize you can be funny without being funny. Meaning to be funny, which is like Trump does a lot of that, right?

He's just funny. He's just a funny guy. He gets up and starts talking and improv-ing his speeches. And people are like, I like that guy. He's kind of funny. He's kind of normal. He's weird like my uncle or like my grandpa or whatever yeah but you can also be funny like reagan was funny where it was like he was he took class he was classically trained he was an actor

right like he's an actor yeah it's even like regular like speech like i feel like even when i just speak to people in general just normally talking to them i have more inflection and more character he just like it just seemed flat and monotone like he was reading like like right off prompter and that i don't know that doesn't really sit well with me or most americans these days you know i just don't have any kind of particular allegiance to ron desantis i know that there are people out there that are like you know he would be more electable than trump etc and, I don't think so because even if he were to take the, uh, the nomination,

the entire establishment and all of the propaganda that comes along with it is going to be turned against him. And they're going to demonize him in the exact same way that they did. Trump, the, all of the pieces are in place to make Ron DeSantis worse than Donald Trump. They've already started saying those things. I think Bill Kristol called him a beta.

He called Trump an alpha. What was that even? That was kind of weird. That's like some weird, like what if he's some like 30 year old guy with a podcast in the manosphere? This guy's a beta. Don't give me that red pill crap. Everybody's bank account noticed a significant uh decrease without

donald trump in office and that's all it is yeah yeah yeah but you know it's also personality like people watch your show because they're just like look i like that person i like that vibe that he puts out and it's consistent and it's and it there's there's a normalcy to it that like people just have uh like normal quirks about them when you have a politician that isn't quirky that doesn't have things that you can see and you can follow and you can get every time that you you turn on the tv basically people start to lose interest and that's the world that we're in today totally especially in the post-trump world is there like like, I turn on the TV because even if I don't like Trump, he's hilarious and he's quirky and he's weird and I'm going to get something out of it.

Tripwire says, don't get me wrong. I love what DeSantis has been doing in Florida, but he did say if Trump ran in 2024, he wouldn't. His campaign to be is founded on a lie. It makes me now wonder if all has done was just pretense to run for potus yep yeah yeah a lot of people were like he's just throwing you red meat he's telling you what you want to hear that way he gets elected and then it's neocon city all over again i'm not saying i believe it to be true because he actually did these things in florida so you know we got what we wanted. We got everything.

I just don't think he has the charisma. But Trump cleared a lane for him in Florida. Like, I think that all the missiles were directed at Trump and Mar-a-Lago in Florida, where it's like, it's really alleviated and created a pathway for Ron DeSantis. And again, the unwinnable subject matter here, Florida for Democrats, has allowed it to cut off here. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. To the mic. Oh, go ahead.

I was just going to say this last point. The Democrats pulled out of Florida in 2022. Like, let's be real. All of the groups, the big groups that are over the top of the DNC, they pulled out of Florida. And part of that is Trump and some of it's desantis but a large portion of this is trump gormall's uh gorm gorm male gormall desantis won't last 10 seconds against the corrupt democrat party they're going to eat him alive well yep and this is something that people are saying is like well you know joe biden wasn't very charismatic why would desantis

need to be charismatic? I think we can all agree, without even having to get into too much detail, that Biden had certain unfair advantages that DeSantis is not going to have. The entire dominant media culture was on his side. They literally published an article saying, this is how we coalesce to ensure that this guy would get elected. No one's going to do that for DeSantis. They're going to work against DeSantis.

Yep. They said, stay alive, Joe Biden. All we need is your corporeal form. That's right and also like i want to make it really clear i am not making any election or any predictions about the election or who's more electable or how it's going to pan out i am just saying it doesn't hurt anyone for desantis to become more charismatic it does not hurt anyone and it could become it could be massively uh instrumental in ensuring that his message is heard and taken seriously by a larger percentage of the american population eric cecil says pretty ironic you're criticizing elon and desantis for a few glitches on twitter

on a twitter space when you couldn't even set up audio at a bar in austin texas for the entire event also trump can't beat biden desantis will you't running for president. I think it's pretty funny that comparing a 12-way microphone setup, because it wasn't just people on stage, with multiple cameras and a sound system for a live event and live stream, comparing that to three guys sitting in a room with their phone sitting in front of them is remarkable. If we were going to do TimCast IRL on Twitter spaces, I'd put the phone right in front of me and I'd press play, and then we'd talk. That's it.

Now, I understand there are issues with the entirety of the Twitter infrastructure and what it can handle, that's fine, but the fact that Elon unmuted his microphone while the guy sitting next to him was speaking, causing a feedback loop, and then the guy mutes his account mid-speech,

those are human errors. And, like Seamus said, we're not running for president. Our budget for this thing was like $20,000 or $30,000. We're not launching a multi-billion dollar presidential campaign. But you know what? I'll still give you credit. We should have better audio. You know?

But come on. DeSantis is running for president. And what did we get? This placid announcement phoned in. It's remarkable. No event, no peep, like, wow. No video. That's because people around him are telling him, be more boring.

They're telling him to do that. Because of Trump being too bombastic? Yeah. But again, I the the real optics of this is trump needs to be more boring right but ron desantis needs to be more vivacious yeah i guess i'm gonna have to run you know because i'm i'm i i'm the only person i believe can do it right now i would never go anywhere near that i think trump's the guy right now trump's the guy who's gonna to go and just fire everybody.

There's no guarantee he does. We may look back on an episode like this and be like, man, were we wrong? Trump brought the swamp back or something like that. Who knows? But our best bet, in my mind, based on the data available as of this date, May 24th and 23, is that Trump is the guy who's most likely to fire.

Biden's going to hire more. DeSantis may, but probably will negotiate Trump fires. Yeah. I hope. No, says, please, someone bottle this. It's better than melatonin. Well, yeah, you know, tonight after the show, I'm going to play DeSantis' announcement speech

so I can get to bed early. Yeah, put us to sleep, that's that's for sure yeah it didn't hype things up ahead of time i was really i was really hoping that we'd go into this whole thing with a really big hype story with this and it was a snooze fest calisthenics earth says he would have been much better off just announcing it on an interview with john stossel have it released with the full interview being dropped uh that dropped yesterday seriously yeah he could have just made a twitter video and it would have been a better launch where he's like hi i'm announcing i'm running for president because truth matters hey at least john stossel has that like

dateline over the top voice you know yes that was a good exciting good dude michael page says ron de sandman oh boy here come the memes. John Jones says, Ron DeServer crashed. What does it say? Clintus says, who are Ron DeSantis' donors? Who are they? Ken Griffin. Ken Griffin. Yeah.

Big one. Sad, what does it say? Saddle F-ing Tramp saysing tramp says sanders campaign announcement was making his appeal to a jury not a mob he needs to appeal to a mob like trump can if they're really telling him to be boring man this will be the shortest campaign ever he'll spiral out because people are not you can't keep people's attention yeah part of what helped trump win was the negative press his name constantly being in the media no matter what nsnbc gave him what like a billion dollars worth of time cnbc gave him i think five billion dollar

equivalent they reported in just saying his name non-stop aaron says give me vivek ramaswamy bring policy and delivery seriously he's great yeah jake says it's incredibly ironic that is that asantis colors biden's vax mandate is unconstitutional but went out of his way to preserve florida's law allowing police officers to forcibly vaccinate civilians that doesn't sound real do they have that that's crazy the great any who says he has the perfect lawyer voice i don't like hearing from lawyers yeah yeah he does ns post says i don't understand is it trump or nothing desantis was the first yes politician that saved my job the first yes politician no other politician including trump did that focus on policy not fan Spoken like someone who is smart,

but not good with people. So many Republicans have that logic, but no feeling, no emotion, and they don't get it. Democrats know emotion is everything. They invest in it. And Republicans are like logic. Republicans are the ones who are going to go out and be like, if you vote for me, I'll explain to you in this three-point plan how we bring back jobs to your neighborhood. Now, the big thing you're facing is overtaxation, which drives corporate. And they're going, huh? Then you get Barack Obama go, can we do it? Yes, we can.

Everyone starts screaming. That's all he says. Can we do it? Yes, we can. And they vote for him. Literally Bob the Builder. I'll say this, too. I mean, again, hopefully I've made myself clear about this. I'm not making a claim about whether Trump is necessarily going to be better in the general

election. What I am saying is with DeSantis, his level of charisma, it's not helping his chances. I don't I just don't know how you could argue that him working on his delivery is a bad idea or a bad suggestion. I mean, he really needs help there. You can't deny that. You really can't deny it. It doesn't help him. That's why I'm harping on it, man. bad suggestion i mean he really needs help there you can't deny that you really can't deny it it

doesn't help him that's why i'm harping on it man if i wanted to make you all feel great i'd go oh i apologize i shouldn't have said no dude it's it's true like in desantis's people need to know that that's something for him to work on i want him to be successful i don't think he's going to be as successful as he can be if that isn't worked out one thing to point out is that florida has a a moderately early primary. I mean, I think it's smack in the middle. It's in mid-March. But if DeSantis doesn't win Florida, that's going to be like,

if it's looking like we're coming up to Florida and he doesn't have a chance to win Florida, that is a huge problem. That's a huge problem for Ron DeSantis too. And so we'll see where the polls end up in florida but all right so gono says tds goes both ways it seems i don't care how electric a politician is i care if they deliver the results they promise which is what we have seen repeatedly from desantis i like trump but there is no loyalty to politicians yep and can

the politician get elected electability matters you can have the best policies in the world or you can take trump who's got a lot of good policies and has the demeanor and the character uh i'm not saying trump is perfect not by any stretch but dude the economist says ron de snooze fest no i showed so i showed some some people and they went wow like it was just reading a piece of paper like not even feeling it it just felt so dry so i mean it's just flat it's just flat flat's an under understatement it's concave yeah totally yeah yeah i mean but i just want to like if if you're a diehard desanta supporter if you're a never trumper you really think desantis has to be the guy don't you want him to work on that don't you

want him to get better at his delivery so he can be more successful i don't understand this why would you pretend that there isn't a problem there totally is because when you fundamentally believe that trumpism is bad and the way that trump captivated his audience is bad you want you want the opposite that's that's actually at its heart part of the problem for desantis i think yeah seymour butt says tim we don't want an elitist blue falcon who graduated from two ivy league law schools then went to wear the blue falcon title blue falcon yeah well trump also graduated from elitist yeah school stuff penned i mean yeah true i believe ian says sorry late to the party but i didn't see where desantis addressed trump his biggest competition he came out too weak i

appreciate him trying to be seemingly drama free but he is playing it too safe, in my opinion. Yup. Vanilla yogurt. Guardsman Norham says that Sanders rolled a politician with high wisdom but used charisma as a dump stat. Ian would appreciate that one if he was here. I like D&D. Robert Colling

says, if you want charisma, look at Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson in North Carolina. He knocks it out of the park. Who's that? Is he the guy who was singing with John Rich? Who was that? Was that the guy? Not sure.

Random, he just says, as an eight-year viewer, you have TDS, dude. Trump can't describe CRT and DEI. Does he just explain them articulately and how he'd destroy them and how he has in Florida. You're simping for Trump too hard. Oh, go Crimea River, dude. Barack Obama gets elected after blowing up children because people don't care about policy. I would love it if Ron DeSantis got on, got in and enacted policy, which I think he does better than Trump.

But it's insane to think at the current pace, he's going to be able to do it. It's remarkable to me that someone like me, I pay attention to this stuff. I watch Obama get in office, are blowing up children immediately. And I'm like, wow, that's the opposite of what I voted for. And people are just like, I'm going to vote for him again. And I was like, what about blowing up kids? Do you think warrants reelection? And they're like, I don't care because Barack Obama goes on TV with a charming smile and says, listen, we can do it! And they go, ah, can't we do it? Yes, we can! He didn't say anything!

Can we hope and change? Can we do it? Yes, we can. Donald Trump wins. Make America great again. Trump at least talked about building a big beautiful wall from sea to shining sea. Trump had some policies. None of these guys are perfect, but Donald Trump banned, at the federal

level contracting with corporations that had this woke garbage in their companies. He was shutting it down in the military as well. I think Rhonda Sanders would do better policy-wise, but we're talking about the executive branch. Rhonda Sanders would not be a legislator when he's in the executive branch. He'd be president. So he can talk all day and night about the things he wants to do, but he's not passing laws or anything about it. If anything, he should be running for Senate, if that's the case. Or he should be vice president and be president of the Senate. That's a better place for him to be.

Donald Trump is the guy who's got the brash attitude, who I want to see start enforcing some laws. Not saying he will, but dude, you can sit here and be like, this is what really bugs me about the right, why they lose too much when it comes to this political stuff. Ben Shapiro comes out and says, facts don't care about your feelings. And they all start going, waving their arms and they're cheering for it. And I'm like, that means nothing to the average person who believes feelings don't care about your facts.

And that's why Democrats win over the default liberal. It should be default conservative yeah it should be when we look at the bud light stuff it should be default that people are like i'm not buying that because you know i don't want to i don't want to be made fun of by my friends the the democrats use shame and fear the powerful emotions to win elections republicans try convincing people now that's that's noble it's honorable good luck you put ron desantis on a stage you i'll tell you this you take a guy who sells medical equipment and put him next to next to ron desantis and you will believe in your mind that ron knows nothing about the politics and

and the medical supply sales guy knows everything because being able to speak and being charismatic conveys more trust than not being able to. I have to think from a lot of people when they say things like, oh, you know, all this stuff. And I'm like, well, make sure you think I actually know something like, well, it sounds like, you know, I read it on the news and it could be a lie later on. If a guy goes on stage like Ron DeSantis and says freedom is worth fighting for. You're like, it's not like he actually thinks that. And then someone else comes up and goes, freedom is worth fighting for you're like it doesn't sound like he actually thinks that and then someone else comes up and goes freedom is worth fighting for and that's why you must join me people are going to be like oh that that's that's definitive i've seen it happen at all these different rallies i've seen the left do it time after time i've seen every non-profit pull this

off if you don't know and if you don't sound convinced, people will not follow you. End of story. Yeah, absolutely. And I think anytime there's any criticism made of DeSantis, people are going to assume because of the rivalry that what you're saying is that you think that DeSantis is terrible and Trump is great. That's not necessarily the case. You could say, look, DeSantis has this flaw that he needs to work out. It's going to make him more electable. And I think that Super Chatter actually

has the Trump derangement syndrome because they're so obsessed with getting in anyone else, they would take a guy who probably would lose. There was a poll that came out. I think it was interactive polls posted this. DeSantisantis losing to Biden by three points. Now, they're going to come out and they're going to tell you, no, no, we want Trump to run. You had on The View, they said, we want Trump to be the candidate so we can beat him. They want DeSantis to be the candidate because he's dry, because he's boring and monotonous. I like DeSantis. I think he would be a great president.

I think his policies are excellent. But in order to be a leader, you need more than just good ideas. Ron DeSantis, the good idea guy, he's an advisor to the president. He's a vice president. He's a COO. He's a chief of staff. He is not the president. The president is going to go out and rally the American people around these ideas. DeSantis can be that guy, but I'm just so fed up. I can't believe after all this time we knew he was going to run, they did not give him legitimate real training or direction. Insane. You're exactly right. I hate when people say, you hit spot on, facts don't care about your feelings. Well, yeah, but people care about your feelings. People care about those feelings. That's a totally different thing from winning an argument versus influencing those around you people don't people won't remember what's the saying it's um people won't remember what you say but they will remember how you made them feel so when donald trump makes you laugh you know what's going to happen you associate that trump

rally with having fun totally a good time when someone goes on stage and just talks and you're falling asleep you don't even remember it. Yep. Yeah. Well, like what did you, what did you have for breakfast yesterday? They don't care about how much,

you know, until they know how much you care. If you had breakfast with Donald Trump, you would never forget every moment of that breakfast. Oh, I had two eggs scrambled, the bacon, the hash browns, and we got these delicious sweet potato biscuits.

And I put a ton of butter on them. I'll never forget that morning. Yep. You will remember, but I ask you, what did you have for breakfast? And most people are remember but i ask you what did you have for breakfast and most people are gonna be like what did i have for breakfast i can't remember because you don't care yeah your brain's like i'm like i'm not gonna store this it's garbage information yeah i'll say this uh i i really like trump i would love to see trump elected in 2024 like i said i won't make any predictions or claims about who's ultimately going to be electable between the two.

But you can really like both of these guys. I understand that when it comes to the primary season, you're going to have to make a choice. 100%. I will say for as much as I do love Trump, I think that if DeSantis is successful at whatever he does, that's good for America. If DeSantis is a good governor of Florida, that's going to be good for America. If he does end up becoming president, I think that's going to be good for America. If he ends up being vice president to Donald Trump, that's also going to be good for America. But I do think DeSantis is going to be more successful if he works on fixing this charisma problem.

Yeah. And people have been saying it for a long time. When we had Milo on the show and he said it was like when you reach for something and you accidentally touch something moist like a wet sponge like i wouldn't go that far that's the thing like i i wouldn't take it as far as milo does when you have people saying hey this is a charisma problem here yeah and then they the campaign doesn't take it seriously yeah you hear that that video that ron put out on his twitter should never have seen the light of day i would not sell my coffee with something so tepid. For a presidential announcement, you need something big. And you need strength, conviction, make me believe it.

You know what I'm going to do? We're going to make a commercial, and I'm going to make you believe that buying Casper coffee will literally save the world. I will put all of the conviction that I have in it, and I'll make an impassioned plea. You know what I'll do? Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to take Ron DeSantis' presidential announcement speech. I'm going to deliver it, but instead of saying I'm running for president, I'm going to say, and that's

why I'm selling you coffee. So join the fight today and go to castbrew.com and buy Rise with Roberto Jr. because if you don't't this country will fall or something like that and then it'll just be like people will be like bro is this coffee calm down well so can you imagine that all these things going wrong on your first day of opening a coffee shop though like you want to have this product like you said perfected so that when it's coming

out everybody in their first day in your coffee shop it's gonna be like wow this is incredible i'm coming back i don't know if that goal was achieved today you know i'm gonna make a video is what i'm gonna do and then jamis can animate it what it'll be me doing ron desantis's speech but saying you have to buy chickens buy chickens well i'll say this this is sort of an infamous story in political history, but I'm sure you're all familiar with the Kennedy-Nixon debates in 1960. And everyone who heard it on the radio thought that Nixon crushed. And everyone who saw it on television thought that Kennedy won, right?

That's the whole point of all of this. Public image and how it's presented to people matters a lot. So you can say his policies are the best in the world, but if they're not presented in a way which is packaged in a way such that the average American person is going to be receptive to it, it doesn't matter.

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