Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #795 Wildfire Smoke SLAMS US, Air Quality Collapsing WILL GET WORSE w/John Cardillo

Episode Date: June 8, 2023

Tim, Ian, Seamus, & Serge join John Cardillo to discuss Canada's raging wildfires causing US air quality to collapse, a LGBTQ friendly church that was struck by lightning, an investigation by Matt Wal...sh uncovering major insurance fraud by Trans Health Care centers, and FOX threatening to sue Tucker Carlson for launching his new show on Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:19 Now you got Fox News threatening to sue Tucker Carlson. Now you've got parents in California fighting far-left extremists in the street over the grooming of their kids. That one really pissed off the left when I tweeted about that. But it really does seem, I guess, like the actual biggest story right now is the air quality. And so, I gotta
Starting point is 00:01:40 be honest, it's probably the least I don't know how to describe it. It's not the most cultural story, but it's probably the least i don't know how to describe it it's it's not the most cultural story but it probably is the most pressing to at least talk about a little bit and so we're going back and forth like do we just talk about this ridiculous fake indictment story or well we should probably at least talk about the fact that if you look outside and you're on the east coast everything's orange and it's probably going to get worse so we're in the dc area and it got pretty bad and so so everyone's basically talking about it.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Everyone has a lot of questions. So I figure we can at least leave with that and then talk about all the culture war stuff. So before we get started, my friends, head over to castbrew.com and purchase our coffee if you'd like to support our work. We are building a parallel economy. If you want to support companies that don't hate you, buy your coffee from us. We're going to be building coffee shops. We're going to be producing more products and giving you alternatives to the woke corporate ecosystem. It's the only way we're going to win. But also don't forget to go to TimCast.com. Click join us to become a member
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Starting point is 00:02:50 to talk about this and a whole lot more is John Cardillo. Hey, guys. Great to be back with you, man. I was looking forward to this. Absolutely. Who are you?
Starting point is 00:02:56 What do you do? Who am I? What do I do? I'm on Twitter. I get yelled at a lot because I went from Trump to DeSantis. I used to be a cop.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Now I'm a boring private equity guy after being on air for a lot of years and occasionally pop up here, hang out with you guys. Right on. Thanks for hanging out. No, it's awesome, man. Good to be back. We got Seamus.
Starting point is 00:03:13 My name is Seamus Coghlan. I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes where we upload cartoons every single week. So if you guys want to check that out, head over there. We're releasing a cartoon tomorrow that I think is going to be really funny. We're making fun of kind of Little Mermaid reboot and all these different race-swapped reboots. I think you guys will enjoy it. Go to freedomtunes.com if you want to help support us
Starting point is 00:03:32 and you'll get an extra cartoon each week that's only available to members on the website. Ian Crossland here. Happy to see you guys. My nose is itching, so let's get to this surge. Yeah, me too. I feel you, man. First of all, the allergy is bad, and on top of that, all the smoke is not making my life better anyways crazy well let's let's jump into this first story take a look at this image from cnn millions in u.s under air quality alerts
Starting point is 00:03:54 as canada wildfires rage you know we're mostly a political cultural and news show but i think this story is so pressing that uh we probably should at least talk about it a little bit because this this is going to directly impact you and it directly impacts us the concern that i have of course is uh for the chickens because uh this garbage falls on the ground yeah and when we had the east palestine thing when they're saying all those chemicals were blasting up into the air and floating out here, chickens were dying. And so I'm being somewhat silly by referencing chickens, but when this stuff settles and gets all over the grass and gets all over everything,
Starting point is 00:04:33 that's going to cause problems too. So basically, there's wildfires up in Canada. FAA has issued ground stops in New York because the air quality was so bad you couldn't actually see. Where we are in D.C., apparently we're being told that it's going to get worse tomorrow and it's going to persist in new york on the east coast until tomorrow as well so i don't know how many of you guys are experiencing this but you know this is this is the latest we have this map here record smog levels in northeast and right now you can see it's mostly bad in the new york area it's going to come down and heavily hit dc tomorrow so apparently they're saying like where we are it's mostly bad in the New York area. It's going to come down and heavily hit D.C. tomorrow. So apparently they're saying, like, where we are, the sky's going to turn orange or something. You know, all the talk we talk about war and chaos and politics and stuff, man, it's these natural disasters that can really annihilate a civilization.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Oh, yeah. It's just a taste. Yeah. I mean, I flew in through this today. I landed in D.C. from South Florida at about, I don't know, 2.30 p.m. And I was running around to get to the airport this morning. I had no idea. I'm ashamed to say.
Starting point is 00:05:31 I saw some things on Twitter about Canada. I really had no idea what was going on until the pilot mentioned it. I noticed that it was pretty clear. We had some clouds, a little bit of bum, so it was mostly clear. And then this weird haze started. But we weren't hitting turbulence. So when you're typically on approach, you come through clouds you're bouncing a bit it was dead smooth and the pilot came over he said oh if you notice you can't see the ground it's this air from canada
Starting point is 00:05:51 i was still i still had wi-fi and i checked it out and uh i'm actually driving after i see you guys said i'm gonna start heading to new york for a family uh event and i just uh i pinged my nephew before we went live and i said how's the air quality he said it's absolutely terrible like can't see your hand in front of your face. Yo, check out this. It's real bad. Just keep talking about it. Let me play this video.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Check this video out. So the point I was going to make is, Ian, I think you made a very good point about the fact that people don't consider natural disasters, or at least enough, especially as modern people, because we like to think that we're in control of everything. We can solve all of our problems. There's nothing unforeseen that's going to knock us over. And what's strange is even when we are confronted by natural disasters like this, people still want to try to claim that we're in control of them. This happened because we're
Starting point is 00:06:32 burning too much CO2 or putting too much of it out into the atmosphere. This is a human invention. If we only behaved better and didn't make the weather so angry, this wouldn't occur. We can't accept that some things are just out of our control. Yeah, that's a good point, man. It's very freaky to say like, we are not in control of this life. Like at any moment, a meteor could strike and set the world on fire again, a global flood, something could knock out the sun, like block it, block out the sun, like this kind of thing, kill all the crops for three to four years, mass migrations. And I was gonna say suicides. And you know, the sun like this kind of thing kill all the crops for three to four years mass migrations and i was gonna say suicides and you know the politics of this is they're saying it's climate change no exactly exactly they're like this is climate change it's happening now
Starting point is 00:07:13 everyone quick it's all man-made that's what i'm saying we have to make it our fault we have to put place it under our control but sorry you were no no no i'm just gonna say i disagree with you guys i look i i learned from the democrats al gore created fire in 2001 that's right created everything it was a darpa project he invented the internet then he flint and steel he created fire and uh here we are now so we should have listened so what is is this i'm not this is a joke is this a cia op to go white fires in canada to get a false flag let me ask you this we have it's not funny but oregon washington california have these wildfires they're never called toxic why what the hell is in the canadian wilderness that's landing orange toxicity whatever it is it's been
Starting point is 00:07:55 affecting canadians for a long time apparently yeah what is causing it maybe that's why maple syrup trees are burning and the air is moving down and everyone's freaking out it was kind of crazy i woke up and uh because where we are you have you can see the mountains yeah and there's like a white fog it's like a haze yeah yeah it's a haze and i was like oh that's kind of weird and then i smell burning that's the crazy thing you can smell like well when i landed yeah like when i landed at reagan today it smelled like a campfire out there i mean it, it was real noticeable, but I haven't been checking it. Did they get an indication how it started? I don't know if you guys know.
Starting point is 00:08:28 That's what I'm looking into. It was climate change. It was climate change. It certainly was. You were driving an SUV. That's why this is happening. I drive a diesel pickup, so I might be solely responsible for this shit. Yeah, that's literally it.
Starting point is 00:08:37 It is entirely your fault. I saw a video of a helicopter laying napalm to a bunch of trees, but I don't think that was it. That'd be crazy. Ian's just really, really dead set on going on the CIA show. Grabbing for straws. This is like wildfires, which indicates that they were
Starting point is 00:08:54 naturally formed. Well, I mean, I guess a human could cause a wildfire. Often these things are arson, but from what I've been reading, it didn't seem like the Canadians. I think it's just higher than normal fire activity. That makes sense. And so they say because humans have been pumping so much co2 in the atmosphere it's causing a slightly more higher temperature which means a little bit drier which means more fire and you know there is something to that we go a little out of balance and it can
Starting point is 00:09:16 send the whole thing out of whack so that we do we do have to be careful with co2 levels but that doesn't mean cease production just gotta figure out how to reuse the stuff or or continue to reuse the stuff yeah you know i think part of this instinct to blame this on man-made climate change firstly it's very convenient because you get to blame it on your political opposition if you're on the left like literally everything is the fault of conservatives you go outside and you don't like the weather it's like well this is some republican politician's fault surely it reminds me of a quote from the one and only thomas soul he said you know good things just happen and bad things are somebody's fault that is exactly how we think that is just our default pattern and so something like the weather right is something like new york being covered in the smog and it traveling across the
Starting point is 00:10:00 country well that has to be somebody's fault like bad things can't just happen or things that bother me can't just happen i have to be able to blame someone even in the bible it's the flood they said that god sent the flood like why can't we just accept that it could have just happened why do we have to blame somebody sent it i guess we have to blame god for this one somebody had to do it i mean look i live in florida and they try to tell you hurricanes are man-made i mean like hurricanes never happened before the industrial revolution i mean it's bizarre we started doing that yeah and honestly it was not a well-marketed product people still don't like them but someone started making them for some reason i like the i like when they're when they
Starting point is 00:10:33 say tornadoes it's the highest temperature on record and it's like and how far back do the record 270 years 1890 go back is it 270 i don't know it's like no it's less yeah it's like 1890 yeah it's like we didn't record the temperature for that long. No, look, you can look back at the ice sheets. They do the drilling. They pull out core samples, and then they measure and all that stuff. I respect that. But there's so many rhetorical tricks to blame anything that can't be explained.
Starting point is 00:11:00 It's almost like the Democrats are acting like shaman, coming to the people and being like, it's because the gods are angry and you've got to give me money and do what I say now. Yes, well, no, that's a very typical thing. We see that throughout all of human history. A group of people who are in power saying the reason the weather is not favorable is because you aren't obeying us.
Starting point is 00:11:19 And sacrifice your kids. Exactly. Human sacrifice. We need to reduce the population size or else we're going to get more climate change sacrifice your children to the sun god did they really sacrifice their kids to affect weather i think so different yeah i mean different groups of people apparently did so i guess how many carbon credits does baphomet take to uh give us a break here oh that's no but it's How do we offset that?
Starting point is 00:11:45 Different groups of people throughout history have engaged in human sacrifice, and one of the reasons, depending on the tribe or group, was for better weather, a more favorable harvest. Well, they wanted it for rain. Hold on, hold on. This is actually really interesting. This is from March 11, 2019, National Post. Ancient civilizations sacrificed more than 100 of their children
Starting point is 00:12:02 to stop bad weather, say archaeologists. It's really funny because that's basically what democrats are saying now when they write these stories saying don't have kids because climate change is getting worse yes they're like they're not saying to literally take your children and sacrifice them on an altar they're saying forego having children make that sacrifice pre-sacrifice well well no it's sacrifice right your family preemptively sacrifice them by just not having no no it would be like sacrificing it's not sacrificing the sense of you take a child and you put them on the altar it's never have never have well also and i think you know this is multifaceted so most people who don't have children the people who choose not to
Starting point is 00:12:39 have children will often say things like it's because i care so much about the climate no it's not that's that's almost certainly not right it's because you want to have the dual income no kid situation going on most of the time and you can acknowledge that you don't don't sit there and tell me it's because you care so much about the climate i think that's usually not the case but that said when you look um in ancient rome this is something archaeologists have discovered just in various periods you have like increases in infanticide uh when people were having more sex and they were having sex outside of marriage and they didn't know what to do with the the children and they weren't taking care of them and you can imagine this being a trend historically too i mean people
Starting point is 00:13:14 saying i have a child i don't want to take care of them so i will sacrifice them in trying to make their horrific act of infanticide out to be something noble and good and so they say oh well this is like for the sun god or this is so that we have a better harvest when in reality they had that cruelty in them and wanted to do it yeah if it's so so right now we're in a record low temperature for i tweeted about it yesterday it was like 49 degrees at night wow in and it's crazy it's like we're you know it's springtime or whatever and uh no matter what happens the the climate change people always have an argument as to why whatever it is yes so they stopped saying global warming because it started getting we started getting cold periods and they said no no it's climate change and i'm like dude it's a record low now it's a record high later but no matter what happens you keep telling me it's the same
Starting point is 00:14:03 thing exactly i have no problem recognizing pollution and saying like i don't believe the planet can hold infinite humans that literally makes no sense but don't come to me and tell me no matter what happens it's perfect for your argument exactly i mean maybe you can make the argument yeah there is such a thing as too much co2 and we want to keep the elements in balance and it can be bad for for life on the planet but if you're going to sit here and tell me that every single thing that happens with respect to the climate is a result of human behavior, what you have is a circular hypothesis because it started with, first it was global cooling, the world was going to freeze, then it was global warming, and then it became climate change. Okay, you have to build a predictive model that tells
Starting point is 00:14:39 us what's going to happen successfully instead of just bashing us for not going along with your cause and then blaming whatever happens to happen on our bad behavior because of your circular theory now now believe it or not we actually do have a segue from the weather into the culture war i kid you not now normally we would just like it's a hard segue we're going to jump to a new story no no we got a segue with this story from snopes from a few days ago did a church that embraces lgbtq plus people burn down after a lightning strike was this climate change white supremacy lightning is very white that was absolutely white supremacy good point so white national zeus is a white national you see in the gray hair the beard the trident that proves all
Starting point is 00:15:23 the markings so irrefutable as as sort of a buffer between culture war and the fact that the air is unsafe to breathe we we had this story and uh was it you that brought it up Seamus or was it Ian oh no I brought it up I saw that on my news feed I started laughing I was like is this real and then it was this guy Eric Kahn says woke lgbtq plus church gets struck by lightning and burns to the ground. And Snopes did a fact check. And guess what? It did get struck by lightning. It did burn to the ground.
Starting point is 00:15:56 It did support LGBTQ issues, but they won't write true on it. Wouldn't it be hilarious if they actually were fact checking the claim specifically that it happened because it was a punishment from God? And they were like, fact check, true. We have to admit it. It's true this time. We'll give them that and being objective normally you know snopes will be like true thing happened false mostly false in this article it says oh okay so it's from today actually did a church that embraces lgbtq plus people burned down after a lightning strike the answer is yes it did it quite literally did now that's not to say god
Starting point is 00:16:25 literally struck the church down but snopes won't even write true here yeah so uh they say it's not type of explanation on june 6 a viral tweet with a video of a church building fire began to receive thousands of engagements the caption of the tweet read woke lgbtq plus church gets struck by lightning and burns to the ground. In the story, we've let out the facts. Okay, blah, blah, blah. They say the tweet was captured June 2nd. The church did embrace these issues over the past several years.
Starting point is 00:16:55 So that's all you really need to understand. And of course, they don't want the narrative to be that a thing like this did happen. Do you guys remember when the George Floyd mural exploded? Yes. When it was struck by lightning? Yeah. I gotta tell you i gotta tell you man i mean you know i gotta say twice i don't know but stuff like this might happen all the time also like right and like no no the question is how do you determine whether it's something beyond or something just well i think you also have to look at i mean look to be rational for a second which is boring i mean it looks like a pretty rural area it might have just been the tallest building in town with
Starting point is 00:17:27 a steeple yeah which would have logically attracted the lightning but they don't want to inflame the radical right no right christian um what do you call them the church was already inflamed that believe god will strike you down right right which is to me has been a problem for the conservative movement for you that's a whole nother show i think that uh there is something to be said for this right because obviously we're sort of being facetious about this lightning or this mural being struck by lightning and the church being struck by lightning i don't know about that mural but i will say well i'll i'll say this that was like flat i think in i think this specific thing got struck by lightning is actually a more convincing argument than the weather is vaguely changing.
Starting point is 00:18:06 So we're going to blame X, Y and Z. You actually have a specific target there. So it makes more sense to make the argument. You have a very complicated argument that consistently morphed to to fit whatever the left's political views are. And then you have does God smite? No, that George Floyd thing thing i don't know man this is why so you'll say george floyd but not this church for shame tim i think well because buildings get struck by lightning no the george floyd mural was a flat brick wall and the only
Starting point is 00:18:37 thing that exploded off the wall was the picture of just george floyd and it was like one small storm cloud floating over and went. Here's the thing. That was like sniper level. Yeah. God is a sniper. Sniper smiting. We need to do a survey to find if LGBTQ churches get struck by lightning more often. If they do.
Starting point is 00:18:57 If they do, then absolutely. So anecdotally, I went to Burning Man. And there's at the end of the Burning Man week, there's the temple that everyone like puts their their old thoughts and feelings they all like notes from dead loved ones things they want to like let go of and grieve over they put in the temple and the temple the energy at the temple when you go to the temple is just like siphoning up and it's just it was tough to get near that place and i was tripping so it could be i could be out of my mind but i think there might be something to like honing energy into physical objects complete anecdotal
Starting point is 00:19:31 nonsense of course religions from time immemorial talk about it you know imbuing uh an idol and things like that and cultures have sacrificed children to the weather yep for uh for millennia yep i think people are known to have called lightning. Is that like, what if like, it turns out that you actually do have to sacrifice your kids to, to, to Moloch to stop the weather from going bad.
Starting point is 00:19:53 I'll tell you stranger things. Stranger things are happening around us. I mean, let's face it. If these crazy things started happening, would anybody be really that surprised at this point? Like if, like if the ground,
Starting point is 00:20:04 like, Oh my God, this can't happen at this point. I'm pretty sure if the ground split, a fissure emerged in D.C. with like lava bubbling up and Moloch emerged with glowing eyes, people would be like, huh. Stokes would be like, fact check, that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the fact that it is Washington, D.C. Moloch could have arisen anywhere. With this church lightning strike, I would believe more that it's a directed energy weapon
Starting point is 00:20:27 from, like, space than it is God. Why? If I had to pick. But, like, who would do it, though, as a directed laser? The Russians. And why pick? Why pick? Because Putin doesn't like a thing.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Spencer, Massachusetts is your target of opportunity. Right. So division. You know, you want to set people on their heels. Spencer, Massachusetts. Or the Church of Spencer. I don't know. so division you know you want to exactly you want to set people on their heels spencer massachusetts or the church of spain yeah is it yeah putin is like we must target spencer i'm gonna listen i'm gonna take this one but it turns out the church was actually like a covert cia yeah based on where putin was just under the lighted there once at a massage parlor or something like that
Starting point is 00:21:00 well i think we can take this a step further the reason this church was struck by lightning was because of climate change, which is the fault of Republicans. Therefore, this is a hate crime. Boom. I'm just going to blame it on Liz Warren. Yeah. When did this...
Starting point is 00:21:11 It's always a safe bet. Did it get struck today or yesterday? Was it after the wildfires? No, this is from June 2nd. Someone superchatted John Fischer saying there's satellite footage showing all the fires in Canada starting at the exact same time.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Totally not suspect. It says not suspicious. I'm seeing this online now online now too people are saying that yeah yeah they just got that tweeted at me could be like so they're implying that someone has some kind of space laser that they can use to start fires with or like a temporal that seems silly temporal critical mass temporal is that the right word temperature wise critical mass like it hit a certain temperature and then everything got really flammable at like 96 degrees you'd have to have like a very very powerful laser in space to be able to hit the earth with that kind of you know to start a fire but i will tell you guys something another anecdote about 12 years ago i was outside of vegas so i said let me take a ride by the that area you know area 51 and those
Starting point is 00:22:02 entrances and a couple little businesses there and i'm talking to a guy who's a local. Maybe 100 people live around there. And the guy was a normal, rational guy. He worked in Vegas for the casinos and all, you know, contractor. And I said to him jokingly, I said, oh, do you guys see UFOs? He goes, no, no, that's all nonsense. He said, but you got to see. He said, sometimes you'll sit out here on these energy weapons.
Starting point is 00:22:19 He said, it would blow your mind. Some of the stuff we see him test only because you can't avoid it, right? It's just these big, vast areas and against the contrasted dark sky so the capability is certainly there i mean if you need you know the military hasn't been shy about alluding to the fact that these things exist at this point we have space force right clearly we didn't make space force a branch of the military to do research and horticulture you know 18 000 you know miles up or whatever it is how many miles up we are. So there's definitely something to that.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I mean, I got to believe we've got weapons floating around up there. You know, and we just said Canada's had it too good for too long. We're going to... They really have. Come on. They've been like a very like... I actually don't know about that. It's not the Canadians. It's the trees.
Starting point is 00:22:58 It's the trees. The trees. They're upset about the CO2. The trees were saying some naughty words and hate speech and all that. Yeah. You know, those ants. We hear about Lockheed Martin's compact fusion reactor. They're upset about the CO2. The trees were saying some naughty words and hate speech and all that. Yeah, those ants. We hear about Lockheed Martin's compact fusion reactor. They started this program in 2010. It's a fusion power project at Lockheed Martin's Skunk Works.
Starting point is 00:23:15 And so if they're public about a fusion program. What aren't they public about? Yes, and how much energy can they actually direct? Probably. Oh, dude. I saw a tour of a nuclear submarine just on the news and i'm just like okay if if they're publicly showing us how to do this then what do we have we got something way crazier yeah think about it right we found out about the stealth fighter not the bomber not the b2 the f-117 that nighthawk
Starting point is 00:23:41 somewhere in like the late 80s early 90s right that thing was operational since 1978 we found out about that 12 13 years later so who knows people probably thought it was aliens they probably did they did they certainly did right and the b2 so what in the world are we deploying now we know about these things and they're out there flying cubes i wish that i could plasma i wish i could remember the exact um i wish i could remember the exact example he gave me but when i had jimmy aiken on my show yesterday he was talking about the fact that there was a fighter that the stealth fighter the government was testing and people were seeing it and they thought it was extraterrestrial yeah the government was basically like relieved and letting people believe that because they didn't want people to be on to their their capabilities
Starting point is 00:24:22 oh so that's probably why this new disclosure came out yeah right with russia that's also a point he made right right when uh the united states is getting involved in one side of a conflict and he was also saying that um the u.s sort of wanted the ussr to think that we were in contact with extraterrestrials so that they would be afraid that we had alien firepower which is completely insane but apparently there's like actual records that the the government was interested in this strategy and so you see this whistleblower who's coming out and saying um that you know we're we're studying this craft that was it made by humans right at the same time that we're getting
Starting point is 00:25:06 involved in this conflict between russia and ukraine you think yeah maybe one explanation here is it's a psyop and we want the russians to believe that we do have an alien craft which is crazy isn't this the premise to uh the men who stare at goats that yes right that's that really happened though the united states tried to trick the trick the Russians into thinking that we were trying to develop telepathy. So then the Russians heard that and they said, oh my goodness, America is trying to research telepathy. So they actually started doing it and then we saw
Starting point is 00:25:34 they were doing it and we actually tried to start doing it. We psyoped ourselves into trying to develop telepathic methods. Did it work? No, they tried to give people heart attacks. They tried to get these psychic methods. Did it work? No, they tried to give people heart attacks. They tried to get these psychics together to your earlier point to channel energy,
Starting point is 00:25:49 but to give them heart attacks. Maybe it didn't work. Apparently it didn't work. Or maybe it did work. I heard that they teach CIA assets not to, if they're following someone, not to stare at the person they're following because it'll give the person a tendency to turn around.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Like, you know when you're being watched kind of thing yeah yeah that's not and normal and apparently there are people who have come out and said remote viewing is real that the u.s military worked on it and actually were able to engage in remote i was looking at i had a did a bonfire a couple nights ago and i was looking at the coals after the fire was over and just like the way they were moving and like all kind of glowing and in in senescence i don't know what the right word is in essence it was like dude i can see how ancient shaman would would stare into the coals and see visions because it like almost takes your brain over man and you might just see what you think you want to see but it is that is a like a meditation oh yeah yeah ian keeps everybody here honest yeah well no i mean embers are it is actually interesting
Starting point is 00:26:45 just sort of the the way fire operates there's so much beauty in nature that i i think it'd be misunderstood but that certainly like lends itself to the the human mind creating something more from it did you guys uh watch the the cia whistleblower two days ago talk about the uh the alien thing it's the most yeah it i watched it and it was like okay this guy's lying this is obviously the way he said he's like i swear to god it happened like he didn't say swear to god he said something uh like uh it just it the way he used a word that was like uh that was made it very apparent that he was like lying maybe we can watch it or bring it up at some point i don't know if you guys see i watched his interview
Starting point is 00:27:24 i didn't get a chance to to see it he wasn't convincing no he's right it was it was more like trust me bro yeah like i did this i saw it trust me bro no you don't you're not gonna get any proof he wasn't there have been more convincing whistleblowers the only thing that worked in his favor i think is that his attorney was a pretty well-respected guy. He was the DODIG, Inspector General, who is insisting that he believes him. Now, again, I didn't believe him either, but he's certainly not, this guy's a government employee. He's not making the kind of money that one would make to retain an attorney like this if the attorney thought it was all BS. So it makes you wonder why this guy would take on the case why this guy would put his reputation in front of it unless he was read in to a different program and they're using this as a disinformation tool to throw the bad guys off okay that makes a lot of sense like we're about to start deploying
Starting point is 00:28:16 some crazy stealth right or like uh energy weapon tech over ukraine and they want him to think it's alien so you go to an old dodig guy who probably still carries his clearance his tss the eyes were reputable and you tell him hey play ball here you were one of us for a while help play ball here help spread this and it serves its purpose okay wait i found a clip it's hard to find a lot this is only six seconds david gruge believe it or not as fan as fantastical as that sounds it's true and. And believe it or not, I just... Who says believe it or not when they're trying to tell someone what happened? And believe it or not, Tim, it really happened. Come on, no one talks like that.
Starting point is 00:28:53 He's trying to convince the guy. He looks like every guy we locked up for something who tried to convince us he didn't do it. Well, we were going to segue from weather into culture war issues and turn it to weather and aliens instead because you just can't control where it goes. So now we're going to hard segue back. But you can control the weather. You can. If you sacrifice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Or with lasers or silver iodide. Oh, yeah. Not space lasers, quite literally, just infrared lasers are used to seed clouds. And they use silver iodide as well, and they've done that since the 60s. And it's really funny that if you tell someone that the government controls the weather the implication is that you're crazy and it's like we i learned this in grade school right they like showed us a book and they're at cloud seeding that's how it works i think they do it over dubai is it they made it rain over dubai yeah they do that and they and it was public i mean they made a media event out of it there's
Starting point is 00:29:40 no secret there yeah it condenses all of the uh water vapor into clouds making rain come down i want to start controlling lightning i want to know more about their lightning programs the problem with lightning is that you can't measure the the the charge the voltage whatever and so i was reading about why we don't capture lightning energy to use and it's like you can't measure it so you can't store it properly you need to know you know volts amps or whatever the power that's coming through to be able to accurately but you can't do that did you guys see the the blue sprites above earth's atmosphere when lightning strikes they like sends a blue flame out into space like the lightning comes down and as it's coming down
Starting point is 00:30:18 a piece of blue flame goes out and up so there's like oh dude that's great that does look very cool you're looking at a blue sprite. You know, have you ever just one more thing about lightning before we move on? Next time there is a lightning storm where you are,
Starting point is 00:30:33 get the slow-mo camera out on your iPhone if you have one and just film. It's crazy to watch that in slow motion. Don't run. That was a howling wind.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Did you hear that? Don't run. Yeah, I did hear that. Whatever you do, don't run into the gay church don't do it lightning spectacular man i love let's uh let's jump to this story we got from the daily signal three arrested after antifa clashes with armenian parents at california school board meeting this is a significant regular people are saying no over and over and over again we've got the bud light effect you've got target and now you've got parents showing up saying you know we politely
Starting point is 00:31:10 requested that these books not be in our schools now we're protesting then the far left shows up these extremists and start attacking parents yeah now you've got clashes this is this is where things get crazy because if you've got regular guy wearing hoodie and jeans being like, look, man, I don't know why they gave my kid that book. And then some crackpot fall off extremist shows up. Those regular people are not going to vote. No, they're not. And I'm going to do now going to vote. They're going to the regular people are going to vote.
Starting point is 00:31:36 And I was going in a different direction. The I'm going to use a word the left loves, especially when they deploy their D.I. and E.S.G. initiative. They love the term stakeholder. So at CPAC, I did a panel on debanking because our fund experienced it because we did some work in the defense sector, ammo, et cetera, et cetera. And we were debanked from a couple of banks. And one of the words they love, they've changed the nomenclature for who's invested from shareholder to stakeholder. Right. from shareholder to stakeholder right so the stakeholder according to these big banks like svb that went under and the really woke banks um first republic out in california they consider
Starting point is 00:32:11 the homeless guy sleeping in the atm lobby a stakeholder that's right right but in this scenario antifa whomever they were they have no stake in this whatsoever no stake whatsoever so the parents the kids kids, the teachers, the administrators, the school board, local elected officials, you can argue they're all stakeholders. I hate the stakeholder term anyway. But the radical leftists who showed up
Starting point is 00:32:34 had no stake in this. They were showing up simply to be instigators. And what they, everybody's trying to make this about Armenian Americans and this and that. No, these are just parents who've been, who are fed up. They've had enough. You saw it, you know, not far away from here in Loudoun County. And here are these people said enough's enough. And I think that's the way. Now I'm not trying
Starting point is 00:32:53 to get anybody's head, but I think that's how many of these parents saw it. It wasn't we're a certain, you know, demographic and this is politically ideological and we're opposed to them because we're conservative in there. No, i think they're just basically saying these are our kids what the hell business do you have here and why are you coming here to disrupt the way we want our kids taught and the way we want a parent and as we've seen i mean you guys look tim you've been out there and in the streets with this stuff they instigate they instigate they instigate and they've always gotten away with it and this time they didn't they just had fed up parents who had enough, who wanted to protect their kids. And I think you're going to see
Starting point is 00:33:26 more and more of this because people are just, look, you could do a lot of things. Don't come after people's kids. When you start coming after people's kids, bad things happen. Yeah, it makes people desperate. Like you see the mother bear,
Starting point is 00:33:37 the female bear. The great and out, yeah. How it'll just go sight, completely blood like, it's not even blood loss, like it wants to hurt. It wants to protect the child and it will annihilate anything. Even if you're well-meaning you see a little cub you want
Starting point is 00:33:48 right it's just you just want to pet it if you're well-meaning i think that a lot of people people in this movement this political movement the trans movement or whatever you want to call it are for them they believe they are well-meaning right but it doesn't matter if you're if people find a threat towards their children. So you need to understand that people will— But they're also not well-meaning. Right. If you remove the bear cup, you're not well-meaning.
Starting point is 00:34:13 These are people who are intentionally targeting children with overt adult content. That's right. Matt Walsh, The Daily Wire—we'll get more in-depth on this after we wrap up this story— did an expose where he found this this rubber stamping of procedures of sex change procedures because these companies are getting tons of money for it they are not well-meaning they are selfish egotistical violent narcissists who are in a cult i just re-watched the music video of we'll convert your children you remember that oh yeah we'll convert your children like smiling and like and like yo
Starting point is 00:34:45 you can't just joke and say that out loud they're not joking i know they said they were joking like a week later two weeks later after the fact it was just we were just playing around like you just told people you were going to convert their children and explain how they do it they said they're going to get their friends they're going to bring them by bit yeah you there's nothing you can do to stop it you can't control what your kids see well boys they're talking about giving your children access to adult content to indoctrinate them yeah they're doing it now yes and and so i'm surprised it took this long for parents to to realize and to be active and for the record it was the san francisco gay men's choir right who was made this video where it was like a bunch of guys singing about how they're going to convert your children.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I mean, whoa. But listen, it's not a new. The parents are fed up now because the bad guys, the groomers, call them what you will, are getting closer physically, closer in proximity to the kids. When I left law enforcement, going back to the early mid 2000s, I worked quite a bit right before I left. And then after with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. And I wish I could unsee some of the imagery and some of the case files I saw that I wouldn't get into here. It wouldn't be appropriate. But what I will tell you is this has been around for a long time. NAMBLA, the North American Man Boy Love Association, they skirted laws for years because they're First Amendment protected, right?
Starting point is 00:36:03 They say, well, we're simply disseminating information on nations that have lax laws for sex with kids. Or if you want to protect kids, don't go to these nations that have child sex tourism. That's how they get around it. But if you really want to get into their psyche, there's a great book. It was written probably in the early to mid 90s by an FBI agent. The guy's name was when the Bureau actually did some good work and wasn't a political persecution squad i believe the guy's name was bob hamer and it's called the last undercover and it's about his he's pretty much spent he was an anomaly he pretty much spent
Starting point is 00:36:32 his entire career undercover he wasn't a guy that did field work for a while then did it for a little bit and came back he just had a knack for it and this guy did everything from biker gangs to la cosa nostra his last one was embedding with Nambla and he embedded as a trust fund guy who was a pedophile. And the things they would do, like back when there was a mall at Herald Square in Manhattan, they would congregate a group of these pedophiles,
Starting point is 00:36:55 these men from like their mid thirties to their seventies would go to the mall in Herald Square on the second floor and watch the kids come in after school and pick their targets. And this has been going on, but you couldn't, we tried, we went after NAMBLA and NCMEC went after NAMBLA and the Bureau and Homeland Security Investigations, HSI is very good at this. One of the best in the world.
Starting point is 00:37:14 We joked about Canada. The RCMP has really talented child sex crimes investigators, but these guys are smart. And the scary thing is they're often well-funded and they don't fit a profile. Anybody in this room could fit the profile. Anybody in this room could fit the profile. Anybody in a restaurant can fit the profile. It's really difficult to tell who they are, but they are proactive and they are some of the worst predators you'll ever see. Now what they're doing, they've been so emboldened for so long by knowing how to play the system
Starting point is 00:37:42 and knowing how to frustrate law enforcement that they've gotten closer and closer and now they're comfortable physically getting into the schools becoming teachers becoming administrators now i'm not going to go off on conspiracy tangents about global pedophile networks and all yeah there are definitely global child sex trafficking networks this is a law enforcement established fact right isn't maxwell in jail because of that she's 100 percent of jail because no no. No, no, I'm saying that. What I'm saying is I don't think, you know, Hillary Clinton's personally abducting kids and the Podesta brothers are helping her in vans, picking the kids up. And we've seen those things too. I'm not going to go down that road, but there are definitely child sex trafficking networks around the world. We know this, right?
Starting point is 00:38:19 In fact, one of the groups that actually has helped are the Mexican cartels because they know it's bad for business, right? If you talk to federal law enforcement or intelligence community, they'll tap the cartels for information on some of these checks, right? Because cartels don't look. They want to sell their drugs, right? And they'll traffic adult women and prostitution, but they know kids are really bad for business. That's when we send special operators down there to start killing people if they start abducting kids to solve the problem. But they've gotten very bold because they've gotten away with it for so long they
Starting point is 00:38:49 haven't been prosecuted now they are in the schools that's not conspiratorial they're being handcuffed and pulled out and you're not seeing the stories because the left-wing media doesn't want to validate what the right's been saying but exactly but i think you're talking about the uh the super liminal and the issue at play now is the subliminal well i think they go hand in hand there's both well right hand in hand but this story is they pretend to be activists they use cover of media so i i referred to one journalist as likely a pedophile because she was covering up overt pedophilic actions you've got this one teacher now i think her what's her name sarah bonner or something like that in illinois instructing young children on how to use adult
Starting point is 00:39:31 anonymous gay sex apps right why would a teacher go to children and say read this there's only one answer but i don't see that as subliminal i see that as overt and no that's overt what i'm saying is that when you get activists in the media defending it, saying it's you hate gay people, that is the subliminal. That is the manipulation where they are taking control of the machine. I tell you, if there is no pushback, and I don't see this becoming a reality, but they will try to legalize this stuff. They will. But to your point, Tim, about these journalists and all, and you see them as pedophiles themselves, you're 100% right.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Here's a case that isn't a pedophilia case, but I think it's a good parallel. I don't know if you guys remember a lawyer named Lynn Stewart. She was a lawyer for Abdel Rahman, the blind sheikh. He was the guy behind the first World Trade Center bombing in 93. Right. The one that wasn't too devastating. And for years, federal law enforcement knew that she was he was her client, but they knew she was assisting, aiding, abetting,
Starting point is 00:40:30 and she would always stand behind her law license and privilege. Well, finally, they had enough and they, you know, they knew it was the crime fraud exemption. Right. They knew what she was doing. They were able to get surveillance in the federal holding facility, saw that he was given her kites, you know, prison notes. she was passing information on to these terrorists enabling his terror network and she eventually was was convicted prosecuted etc etc it's the same thing these journalists who are sympathetic to this are doing they're enabling it and they should be prosecuted as such i just looked up well philia well that that's a very very difficult line it's one thing if there's an active terrorist giving instruction to a terror network and you're acting as a courier
Starting point is 00:41:08 for that illegal information and if you're giving but see here's where i disagree with you if you're giving them cover by using your law license to shield how do we know these journalists aren't doing the same how do we know the journalist engages in an illegal activity by all means prosecute them if a journalist has a disgusting opinion fire them and make make what they do unthinkable but what i'm saying is most normal human beings most normal human beings would not be permissive of such heinous behavior unless they had a stake in it somehow right right so i think there's probable cause there yeah or at least reasonable suspicion to start looking deeper to get to the pc to get the warrants yeah agreed yeah uh you you made this point about people infiltrating the public school system and i think that's very important because
Starting point is 00:41:50 what the left and the dominant media culture has made very clear to the american people is that if you are someone who wants to abuse children as long as you're using they them pronouns or the pronouns of the opposite sex they will treat anyone who regards you with suspicion as a bigoted person who shouldn't be listened to that's right that's right i just looked up philia this is a lot of like wordplay that they're that people have been doing pedophilia philia is a type of love from greece ancient greece and it's the type of love that translates as friendship the love of friendship uh philia it's fine but eros philia yeah eros is love sexual love now these people are pederotic they're not pedophilia great point they might be both but you got to call them
Starting point is 00:42:32 peder pederosts peder at the very least like they're it's about the it's not about i mean it is weird for a grown adult to be friends with a nine-year-old kid that's not their son but it is it's the erotic love that's the problem you know what i had a i had a former federal prosecutor good guy who did these trainings at nick mack who would drum that into everybody's head they're not pedophiles they're pederasts he would say exactly what you just said because he wanted to draw that distinction goes back to a lot of what we say right in in conservative or or libertarian media that that language does matter don't let the left own the narrative don't let them create new terms he was adamant about that so you're spot on oh
Starting point is 00:43:09 that's good who was that that did that it was uh i forget the guy's name he we had a bunch of trainers i forget his name he was an fbi agent back when the bureau was good and then he was a federal prosecutor i gotta dig it up for you yeah i mean love is not love there are many different types of love and that is super important let's jump to this story we got we have a major story from the daily wire this is crazy i my jaw hits the floor uh hit the floor when i saw this matt walsh uncover uh undercover investigation catches trans health care providers rubber stamping sex change surgeries basically they had a producer call in and within 22 minutes in a virtual appointment even after saying they weren't dysphoric, the person wrote a letter saying they were.
Starting point is 00:43:50 And it's simple. There's a lot of money to be made in rubber stamping these things and sending them out. And you are protected politically when you make money this way. The Daily Wire reports some of the nation's largest trans health care providers are rubber stamping approvals for life-altering sex change procedures and even falsely representing health diagnoses of patients so insurance companies will cover the metal medical expenses daily wire host matt walsh revealed in a tweet thread wednesday so apparently these doctors will say explicitly if we don't give you this diagnosis the insurance will not cover it so you need to be diagnosed this way and then what let me let me actually i think i have the uh the thread here i think he explicitly
Starting point is 00:44:32 brings up that the his undercover uh producer says that uh he's not dysphoric let me see he says the letter keeps capitalizing orkyctomy, is that how you pronounce it? Without and before it, as if it's just been copy-pasted into a template. Greg followed up to learn why he had been diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Plume admitted they just use letter templates provided by WPATH. He says, just checking on this
Starting point is 00:44:59 to make sure this will be okay in the letter, I'm not really considering myself dysphoric, so wanted to check on that one thing. Otherwise, letter looks great. The doctor says, the care coordinator, Hi Chelsea, look at this. You get, iPhone says she, her, hers. This is redacted a care coordinator with Plume.
Starting point is 00:45:16 I will page your provider on this to see what she says. I know we rewrite, we write letters based on WPATH templates, but I can ask your provider if it's necessary to have it, and if not, perhaps it can be removed. Later, Plume's nurse confirmed, in order for the surgery to be paid for, the dysphoria diagnosis would need to remain. At the same time, the nurse appeared to confuse as to why Chelsea Bussey had requested testicle removal in the first place. Saying, let's see, so Chelsea Bussey, which is the undercover,
Starting point is 00:45:45 is a male producer for Matt Walsh. Thanks for getting back to me. I was just saying I don't feel dysphoric right now, but it's okay to keep the letter, right? The nurse says, nurse practitioner, oh, okay, well,
Starting point is 00:45:54 the surgery is related to the gender dysphoria, which you diagnosed with. It is controlled with HRT, but in order to get the surgery to be paid for a GCS, it will need to be related to gender dysphoria which you are diagnosed with does that make sense or is the orky not gender confirming
Starting point is 00:46:10 so it seems like basically what they're uncovering these these companies they don't care they want the money they want the money look i can't get my dog on an airplane with a letter from a doctor anymore but in 22 minutes you can be castrated and it can be paid for by insurance i mean this is sheer insanity whole industry's insanity right now it's marketing they're marketing and look it's the same as the vaxxers right and they're marketing but they're protected and this is the crazy thing they're protected that's right jimmy door had such a great bit that i saw today he was like when it came to big pharma people would people say don't do your own research the media comes out don't do your saw today he was like when it came to big pharma people would people say don't
Starting point is 00:46:46 do your own research the media comes out don't do your own research he's like what that's crazy we used to call doing your own research reading yeah not to read and he goes we would never that was an excellent bit he said we would never tell anyone to to to not do their own research in any other area imagine if you were like i think i'm, I'm going to go buy a new car. Don't look into it. How am I supposed to know what car to get? Ask the salesman.
Starting point is 00:47:10 He's the expert. Yeah, it was great, Ben. It's absolutely fantastic. Ask the salesman. He's the expert. No, it's brilliant. It's worth watching. What we have with big pharma
Starting point is 00:47:16 and these medical practices, political protection, far left extremists saying, do not look into it. And the media saying, that's right. and the media saying that's right if you do something's wrong with you yep remember when the new york times wrote not to think critically i gotta tell you man if you i look if if i don't know i don't know how to help these people genuinely if they're like i was told not to think critically so i stopped listen i mean since we
Starting point is 00:47:41 were like five years old right nursery? Nursery school, kindergarten. You're told. I mean, it was like the most ubiquitous statement on the planet when he came to doctors. Get a second opinion. Yeah. Until we learned Fauci's name. Then anyway, if you got a second opinion, you were a crazy conspiracy theorist. You were anti-science.
Starting point is 00:48:00 You didn't trust the experts. Give me a break. Give me a break. This is crazy. Matt Walsh posts the letter which says she reports ongoing gender dysphoria despite the fact that in texts the producer said i do not have dysphoria right so this is also something that we learned a number of months ago when jamie reed who was working at a clinic that was giving treatment towards minors came out and basically said that there's a routine. Sorry, I had to correct. I had it backwards. That was the
Starting point is 00:48:30 earlier tweet. They then asked about it and he then said he didn't have dysphoria. So my mistake. Sorry, continue. No, no. I was just saying that a whistleblower named Jamie Reed, who was working at the St. Louis Transgender Center, was talking about the kind of rubber stamp routine that happens here and how there are these templates. And what they do is give people sort of tips on what they can say to the therapist to ensure that they're going to be given the green light to go ahead with these procedures. I went to a doctor for a checkup a little while ago, like a month ago. And the doctor was like, how have you been feeling like mentally?
Starting point is 00:49:07 I was like, oh, I'm existentially, I got a lot of stress. You know, the world economic order, the how it's shifting. And he's like, you want something for that? And I was like, do you wanna like do a blood test on me? Do you want a psychological, like do you wanna do an eval first? Or do you just wanna hand me some Prozac?
Starting point is 00:49:20 Like the guy just, he was so ready to give me the medicine, the drugs. Yeah, the the medicine the drugs yeah and yeah the medicine the psychoactive whatever suppressants or whatever the hell they are question for you guys do we know which state uh greg was uh chatting with this company do we know which state this company was located in i think we we probably do let me uh the reason i ask is is my next question is going to be why isn't the state attorney general opening an immediate insurance fraud investigation on these providers oh i mean this is insurance fraud this is so i want to clarify what i was saying with the letter the so first the letters the letter is posted
Starting point is 00:49:53 uh let me let me grab it from uh this here we go so in tweet number 13 he says three days later plumes in this letter to chelsea bussey who does not exist saying he was experiencing gender dysphoria the producer then responded saying, no, I don't. The coordinator then responded, well, it has to be in there. So keeping the letter as is, saying this person has dysphoria despite the person texting saying, no, that's not true,
Starting point is 00:50:16 that's insurance fraud. That's blatant insurance fraud. I mean, there's your probable cause. Also, potentially medical malpractice. These are all over the country. Certainly. This is all over the country. But the insurance fraud's criminal. That's a felony. I mean, the fact that the other elements of it aren't criminal
Starting point is 00:50:31 is also an indictment of our laws. And this is something I mentioned. Jamie Reed is a whistleblower. We also had a Helena Kirshner on who was describing her experience and the fact that she went to Planned Parenthood and was able to get the maximum dose she could get after a relatively brief conversation. I think she said she didn't even talk to a doctor. I mean, they're just Planned Parenthood for a few minutes and then
Starting point is 00:50:51 she got the maximum dose of testosterone. And initially the person she was speaking with wasn't even going to give her that, but then she asked for it and they just gave it to her. I mean, it's unbelievable. And so if you had any other field of medicine where there were this many scandals with this many different whistleblowers coming forward and saying, yeah, there's actually this entire complex set up around trying to give me the proper answers to tell to other physicians to get certain treatments that they're supposed to be vetting me for objectively, we'd be having a national dialogue about it. But we're not when we're talking about literally amputating body parts that cannot ever be replaced or restored once they're removed and mutilating children. The medical marijuana was a racket. They were like, you've got to tell them that you have stress
Starting point is 00:51:44 or they won't give you the medical marijuana card. So you go in and you gotta tell them that you have that's fair stress or they won't give you the medical marijuana card so you go and you're like i have stress and then they give you the card and then i think in some areas right if if you said that you had that kind of stress they gave you a medical card it actually precluded you from being able to own a gun you'd for 12 months for 12 months but that you'd have to put that you were a current drug user that stuff is amputating there's no amputation it's it's a license to buy marijuana which is ridiculous i don't know much less serious than removing a body cutting an arm off or a body part off or testicles or whatever yeah i'm very libertarian on the weed issue i think it's i couldn't care
Starting point is 00:52:13 less couldn't care less yeah never never came across any bad guys that were you know trying to kill anybody but now i'm starting to wonder to be completely honest are you well i mean you've you've got all of these uh detrimental things that they're trying to pass on to people so i just don't trust them oh that's a different story but yeah they if if democrats came out and they were like we actually think jello pudding's fantastic i'd be like i'm not gonna do that what's happening here i've said this before i'm absolutely sugar anyway i i'm totally against the federal war on drugs. I think if a state wants to ban marijuana, I'm totally fine with that. But I remember when I was graduating high school about 10 years ago,
Starting point is 00:52:52 this was when the massive push was happening for weed to be legalized and when we actually started to see it happen. And all of the arguments being made, instead of making the libertarian argument, which I don't necessarily agree with, but which i think is a better argument and that is this might be bad for me but let me do it there was so much mythologizing about how this is going to cure your cancer and it's a miracle it's like okay you don't have to do that either right you don't have to push it all the way in that direction but i hear you that also made me more suspicious at the time. All of the bombastic claims about how great it was. That's marketing, though. Look, Big Pharma is just downright demonic in the way they market these things.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Oh, yeah. I mean, they're marketing. You watch TV in the middle of the day. I have it on in the background, right, when I'm working. Every other commercial is a pharma commercial for something. The side effects, it's a 45-second spot, a 30-second spot. The side effects are horrible. And the side effects often do what you're trying to treat that's the point and then after that commercial like two commercials later it's some law firm it's like you could be entitled to money right if you took this medicine from
Starting point is 00:53:58 that same company that's now been recalled yes wait a minute there'll be one commercial it's like are you suffering from acid industry indig? See if Acidosto is right for you. Side effects may include explosive diarrhea and headaches. Then the next commercial is, are you suffering from headaches and explosive diarrhea? See if this drug is right for you. Zantac is going to kill you. No, it's nuts. I mean, it's just crazy.
Starting point is 00:54:20 And I think we learned quite a bit about Big Pharma in the last few years. But I think what they've done, you know, John stossel did a good expose on it years back where he he made a strong argument for big pharma right i guess his brother works in that industry and he was saying how on average they spend about 800 this was then about 850 million dollars to develop a drug and some don't work others do work but they're not prescribed. And so he made a good argument for why certain things cost the way they do. I don't think anyone ever foresaw what we saw in the last couple of years. I mean, you saw a pharma commercial, one every 10 commercials. My friends and I are on a text chain. Brought to you by Pfizer. Yeah. My buddies and I are on a text chain. One's a banker for one of the large banks, but he's very politically like-minded. And we just
Starting point is 00:55:01 run jokes all day long. Like, have you taken your sky rizzy today do you have your relaxium and your prevagen like it's just not every you know it's just crazy every other commercial it was when they told me not to question it i was like what in the hell is don't look into it it yep yeah trust the experts and also them saying that they weren't looking into things right like when fauci was saying he wouldn't even entertain lab leak, he won't even entertain it? He won't even think about it? Really? Stop thinking critically, Seamus.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Yeah, exactly. John, do you think that the federal prohibition on weed is because of pharma, the pharma industry? Oh, 100%, right? But right now, the federal government's not prosecuting weed. The DEA, so I've got a lot of friends at DEA, their policy right now, I asked one of my buddies who's an agent this isn't some guy i know it's a guy lives in my neighborhood we socialized i said so you guys hit a house you hit a trap house and you
Starting point is 00:55:54 find i don't know you know 10 kilos of heroin you find 15 kilos of coke and five pounds of weed what do you do with the weed he goes destroy it we don't even put it on the charging sheet anymore because doj it's it's not they haven't legalized it but they're not they've basically decriminalized it so they're not even prosecuting for it it's not even going to show up that i destroy it it's a work yeah the heroin will be logged the coke will be logged but the weed just they burn it up or whatever they do so that's like they're doing they're doing work just leave it ignore it like do you do you take a kitchen table with you when that's the thing that's what i that they seize it because it's still technically illegal but they don't that's it that's where it
Starting point is 00:56:29 begins and ends it gets burned and they're done but they just keep it schedule one just in case there's somebody they want to bust well i think you make a good point right because dea and fda tend to work hand in hand right fda does the civil enforcement um dea comes in with the gun i mean fda is as uh armed agents when needed but the dea comes in with the gun i mean fda as as uh armed agents when needed but the dea steps in for the bigger stuff but think about who who typically funds and and eventually staffs fda and that pipeline goes back and forth like john mccain had with the defense industry and his staffers right the fda and big pharma trade bodies back and forth and so you're talking about cutting into massive profits i've got a
Starting point is 00:57:07 buddy who's a neurologist a pain management doctor he loves weed for certain uh chronic pain conditions he hates prescribing opioids he doesn't want to do it he won't do it he'd rather give a shot uh you know spinal uh injections etc he just hates it he hates what it does to people he won't prescribe them anymore and he's's very successful doctor he that the pressure he gets from the pharma reps for being pro weed and he's not even talking about flour a lot of them will be gummies or vape or edibles and it's helping his patients the pressure he gets is unbelievable he tells me yeah so yes to your point and by the way i want to make the point even though i mentioned i'm fine with states banning it like i don't dispute that there could be legitimate medicinal uses for it i don't know enough about it but i've also heard people
Starting point is 00:57:48 who are physicians claim that there are are good reasons to use it uh you mentioned the fact that it isn't generally prosecuted and you brought up the point that they could selectively prosecute i guess you know if trump starts smoking pot they'll be banging down certain of it well doj has written policy now to not prosecute for weed and and the sister federal agencies uh even even homeland for example they you know they're not doj they're they're their own entity but they're just not prosecuting the federal prosecutors won't even bring the case is it because they can't get a verdict or they just don't care i mean look part of the problem is they're starting to see the revenue right so you take big pharma's profits out of it
Starting point is 00:58:24 they're kicking back big tax dollars to the federal government these dispensaries they're starting to see the revenue, right? So you take big pharma's profits out of it. They're kicking back big tax dollars to the federal government, these dispensaries. They're making big money. Right now, if you have a medical marijuana license in Florida, which is that whole seed to sale model, you've got to show, as we sit here today, guys, if you can't show 50 some odd million liquid, around 55 million liquid ready to go, you're not even going to be considered for the license. Yeah, it's real money. If you want to buy buy an existing operation they're starting in the nine figures wow yeah down in florida anyway because you've got it's seed to sell right or it it was meaning the people that grow it also the people that want you to have a holistic ecosystem they
Starting point is 00:58:58 want you to have the land they want you to have the dispensary it's all got to be one pipeline so they call you know seed to sale pipeline well i i think i think weed should be legal but i don't like it so that's why that's it right but but again to your point let me do it you know not me per se but if i don't i don't like legislating morality yeah there needs to be education about dosage man yeah it's about dosage anyone that gets sloppy stoned is not probably not in a great state of mind they're gonna get sloppy drunk yeah that's way more dangerous i agree with you on the morality thing the issue is that society shouldn't tolerate it shouldn't tolerate uh immoral things and the problem is we have a culture and society that tolerates everything and so we just have
Starting point is 00:59:38 true immorality running rampant and now there's no morality on the left they have no moral framework at all none like stick florida right you'll never I shouldn't say never, but I can tell you right now, you probably won't see in the short term, recreationally, legal weed in Florida. And it's really not a political issue. It's the hospitality industry. They're big and they don't like the smell. They think it'll turn guests off. They think if they have a bunch of kids.
Starting point is 01:00:01 It's a real thing. There are certain areas that just stink now. Well, that's it. And their logic is sound. They're like, hey, look. It's one of the other reasons, I mean, not that you're too far off track, that we don't get open carry in Florida. It's because the hospitality industry, we have a lot of European tourists. Guns aren't as prevalent.
Starting point is 01:00:14 They're afraid of it. It won't come. They'll spend their money elsewhere. So I do get that as much as a 2A absolutist as I am. But with the weed, I've spoken to a few of the hotel ownership groups and all. And they said, look, we don't want to be charging 800 bucks a night in season for a room have affluent families there are a couple of kids come there by the pool and then they start these families start checking out because they don't want their toddlers smelling this and seeing it yeah you know so it does make
Starting point is 01:00:36 sense at least for flour like oil and gummies and edible they don't bother you for that yeah they're fine with that they don't if somebody's vaping at the pool yeah but just it's the flour no smoking i mean no matter what you're smoking you can't that's right no smoke that's a big part gummies and edibles. Well, they don't bother you for that. Yeah, they're fine with that. If somebody's vaping at the pool, it's the flower. No smoking. I mean, no smoking. No matter what you're smoking, you can't smoke. That's right, no smoking. That's a big part of it, too,
Starting point is 01:00:49 is smoking is hard on anybody. That's right. And the cigars, too. They don't allow cigars either at these pool decks at all. Sorry that I took us away from the Matt Walsh conversation. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:01:00 It's fine. That is a perfect headline. What were you saying, Shane? No, no. I you you made a good point though um oh my goodness oh this is that new york times article that tim was referencing misinformation is information they want you to miss don't go down there you got to read it first yeah i know don't go down the rabbit hole critical thinking as we're taught to do it isn't helping in the fight against misinformation beautiful what a ridiculous just blatantly
Starting point is 01:01:26 inaccurate it is it's like specifically saying the wrong thing don't question it that's not how you this is what i was saying about weed when when they start moving to legalize it everywhere and it's particularly in these states that you know kill and sterilize kids i'm kind of like i don't know if i trust them you know what i mean like maybe maybe it should always be that thing on the out like on the fringe where it's like it's illegal but you know people do it sometimes we shouldn't have people in prison for it but we shouldn't just be explicit with recreational use i don't know man i'm fairly libertarian so i just ultimately here's actually i'll put it this way i'm becoming more liberal i suppose than libertarian in that
Starting point is 01:02:07 i'm starting to feel like one we need to repair culture desperately so that people aren't giving their kids pot or encouraging recreational use of drugs and things like that but we also probably do have to legislate to some degree things that we view to be moral. Yeah, well, that's the thing. It's really not possible not to legislate morality, right? All law has some basis in morality. But when it comes to this question of misinformation and telling people not to do their own research, I mean, this is so obviously self-serving for the mainstream and for the establishment, you know, exactly why they're telling people this. And it's an example of things kind of coming full circle.
Starting point is 01:02:48 I quoted Thomas Sowell on the show earlier tonight. And one thing I remember hearing from him that really got me thinking was he pointed out that in the public school system today, kids are taught that it's very important to make a difference. And he also made the point that they're not taught that it's important to know about the thing you're trying to make a difference about. And when he said that, it resonated with me because that was very much my experience in public school. I had many lovely teachers, but there was kind of this prevailing ethos of go out, change the world, make a difference, and not much of a conversation about how you should also research these things become knowledgeable about them really have something to say or do that's meaningful
Starting point is 01:03:30 and now it's actually come full circle to the point where they're openly saying like not only should you a make a difference but b you shouldn't do any research about the social change you want to affect you should just listen to us when we tell you how the system should be rearranged and then you should do our bidding let's talk about the story from the daily mail fox threatens to sue tucker carlson for violating his contract with the launch of his new twitter show that 80 million people and counting watched so why are they doing this i think they want tucker carlson to shut up until after the. It makes no sense why they would take him off the air, but then also say you can't talk. Like he made a Twitter video and they're saying you breached your contract. Why?
Starting point is 01:04:12 Yeah, because he posted a video of himself on Twitter. That's normal social media. This is what we're just talking about with critical thinking in the press. The press does not want anyone breaking the narrative. So they remove Tucker from the airwaves. Exactly. And so we saw this with james o'keefe right and project barakas coming after him again not knowing a whole lot about the law or the legal
Starting point is 01:04:30 precedent that's there the fact that they would remove him from their organization and then try to stop him from doing his journalistic work when he's no longer with that organization suggests to me in my personal humble opinion that there are issues with the journalism he's doing because he's no longer affecting them in any way unless that's the thing that concerns them so similarly with tucker carlson being ousted from fox a lot of people were making the argument that they were only throwing him out into the cold because of this dominion settlement even though tucker didn't really say anything about dominion uh and now you have them trying to silence him even though they don't have any more liability there so it makes it perfectly
Starting point is 01:05:13 clear that the purpose of casting him out wasn't like to settle a lawsuit it was because they really didn't like what he was saying and they're upset that he's saying it's somewhere else now yeah i think it was both though i mean look they they paid out almost a little over three quarters of a billion dollars right so they're they're super sensitive to be in suit again at the same time one of the things i learned you know having worked in media as long as i did is there is a tremendous amount of pettiness in the c-suite especially when the hosts or particular hosts like tucker become wealthy and powerful and beyond the reach of of that c-suite of management they become that it's not that they're seen as uncontrollable because you got to extend you know your key employees a certain
Starting point is 01:05:58 amount of trust right you got to let them be who they are and they're adults and they're responsible and tucker never crossed lines right he sensational, but that's what made him good. But they get jealous. It's weird. They get really jealous when the talent becomes more famous, more powerful than them. And I think this became an ego battle. So they say it's about the Dominion lawsuit and they force him out
Starting point is 01:06:19 and he goes off on his own and they think, ha ha, we've got him. He's going to go, he's a wealthy guy. He's generally wealthy now. He's fine. But he goes out there, he goes off on his own and they think, ha ha, we've got him. He's going to go, bro. He's a wealthy guy. He's generally wealthy now. He's fine. But he goes out there, he goes on Twitter and then they start doing the math and they realize, wait a second, if this guy takes even a third of his audience with him and he charges them a couple of bucks a month, a few bucks a month, he's going to be doubling what we paid him while he really doesn't need us. He's not going to come back and grovel. So now it just seems to me to be real petty nonsense like they're just going to try to make his life miserable he doesn't need him i wonder how much of this is we must silence certain voices sure before 2024 or trump wins so james o'keefe veritas not only freezes him
Starting point is 01:06:57 they then sue him yep fox news does the exact same, look, maybe it's coincidental that almost at the exact same time, Veritas suspends O'Keefe but locks him in the company. Fox suspends Tucker but keeps him in the company. And then both get sued for trying to do their work to continue their work. It seems a little bit odd. Just saying. I think the O'Keefe situation was different, though. And I had some unique insight to this because I'm friendly with two different board members who are on opposite sides of the issue. And, well, you know, the old saying, right?
Starting point is 01:07:32 There's two sides of the story and the truth is somewhere in the middle. But the one thing both of them agreed upon when they told me their versions and I wasn't with them was that o'keefe was never fired that he was benched and that the that he did violate the nda and that's what they went after him for and this was right so one who was they tell james he can't work and then when he says i'm gonna do my own thing they say we're suing you now to stop you from doing that well so that's evil i'm with you on that but what they had said both of them said but it was more about the violation of the nda and going out there now it's his nda well it's but there's still a 501 yeah i don't care no no i hear you i'm but lawyers are weird people right lawyers lawyers look at things differently than we do anybody at veritas
Starting point is 01:08:13 who is in agreement with what they're doing to james is an evil despicable piece of garbage but tim i'm not arguing with you lawyers are lawyers you know lawyers that the board hired lawyers to do this for them sure james starts project veritas he runs it and everyone's behind him then they come and subvert him benching him whatever you want to call it shutting down his ability to do his job so what does he do i'll start another company now they're suing him you know that that the only intention perceivably is to stop james'Keefe from doing his work. Look, I'll play it down. And look at what they're doing right now with Tucker.
Starting point is 01:08:49 There's literally no reason to take his show off the air and then tell him he can't post Twitter videos. I agree with you. What I'm saying is, because having been through dumb lawsuits on both sides as plaintiff and defendant in business once you involve attorneys things snowball out of control so you can't deny that veritas is inextricably linked to o'keefe right it's his brand he's the brand they're they're one in the same the minute lawyers got involved this thing was going sideways same with tucker because in the exact same way well because look they want to build and they've got they know both organizations have deep pockets for what reason would you suspend someone and prohibit them from doing work non-competes are enforced every day i don't i don't tend to agree with them how
Starting point is 01:09:34 enforceable they are as a matter of law but that's just what lawyers do because they want to rack up as much billable as many billable hours as they can look i think the whole the whole... You can't pass this off on lawyers. I reject that. But how? If you're the board of a 501 and your law firm turns around and says, you must go on this director... Project Veritas could have said, let's just let James do his thing. Well, here's where I'm going to agree with you on that. I think the entire thing was the most ham-fisted, moronic PR exercise I've ever seen. And Fox News, all the same. If they don't want Tucker around, they just say, go do your thing. Well, they should have told Tucker to go do his thing.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Tucker's got a bit of a different situation there because he really, number one, different rules apply, right? I mean, one of the things to verify whether it's valid or not is that there was, finances were mishandled. Now, I've spoken to some of their very big donors, and those big donors said, we don't care if O'Keefe flew on a solid gold Gulfstream 6. We didn't donate X dollars to nickel and dime him. We donated for results. He got us results. We don't care how he spent the money. If we gave him $5 million and he spent all but a penny on himself and got the job done we're happy so james made
Starting point is 01:10:46 the mistake of bringing on corrupt envious scumbags to his board who have destroyed project veritas look i think i think the brand right he the brand is him but i think when you and now they're trying to stop him from even doing more work these are evil people lesson is this i mean you know this you run a successful business right i've got partners're a small fund, but we do pretty well. Never bring adversaries onto a board of directors. It's the dumbest thing people do. Especially when you want to be a proprietary entity. There's this weird sense of nobility where people, look, I'm going to say it here, right? I don't make any apologies for having moved on from Trump to DeSantis. Trump's personnel picks bear this out.
Starting point is 01:11:29 If Trump had had better personnel acumen, he'd be a very successful second term president. This happens everywhere. So it's not unique to Veritas. Fox is a different animal because Tucker didn't pick the board. But James should have picked more wisely. But then again, he's a personality. He's not a business guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:47 He should not have started a nonprofit. That's right. Yeah. Well, that too. I mean, it's hard to say, but it was,
Starting point is 01:11:53 he explained that how it started was that he wanted to do some work. He needed to raise money. He wasn't thinking of it as a commercial venture. So he said, how do I raise money? Well, if you got to be a 501 C three. So,
Starting point is 01:12:04 okay. So I'll file for that. He was a young guy. Sure. For me, I've had other LLCs and other S-Corps and whatever. So I'm like, this is the structure that we use. And there are even arguments to be made for C-Corps over S-Corps for a variety of reasons. That's right. But going the nonprofit route put him in a particularly vulnerable position for the thing that he built. And then these evil people, these brain slug people come in and destroyed Project Veritas. For what purpose other than because they're envious and evil people? End of story. James O'Keefe founded it.
Starting point is 01:12:35 He's the leader of it. He's the one in charge. And if the donors are happy and the work was getting done, the only reason to interfere was because they were jealous, evil, or trying to destroy Veritas intentionally. I don't think they were trying to destroy it. But I do think they did. But they had no reason to destroy it because the money was coming in and the exposés were strong. I just think—
Starting point is 01:12:54 Then why file a lawsuit? Because I think people have power trips. And they have power trips through tunnel vision. And they become crusaders. And they don't realize the collateral damage that's occurring when they become crusaders. I don't think it was a proactive career assassination of him. It turned into that. I just think a bunch of people said, well, we've got to do this.
Starting point is 01:13:19 We're the board of directors. We're the austere board and we don't care who the personality is. And in the real world, that's just moronic. That's not the way things work. and it snowballed out of control and but look it bit them in the butt at the end of the day the organization's never going to be the same i get the emails i don't look at them the same way i'm with you i don't look at them the same way anymore but it's not just that so is the argument then that these are the stupidest people on the planet because i don't buy it filing a lawsuit against James O'Keefe was basically publicly declaring you are shutting Veritas down.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Yeah, but the play devil's advocate on that, if in the bylaw, I didn't see him, but the way it was explained to me, in a 501, if you don't follow the rules, you could be prosecuted criminally. And so if lawyers step in, if you're a board member and you're one of the board members that was pro-O' o'keefe now you've got a law firm sitting in front of you in a good war and saying look guys we wouldn't have advised you to go down this road but you did and if you don't do a b and c now bullshit and there is something well but but here's my point it once an attorney tells you that and says to you you might be personally liable if you don't do these things that we're recommending. How many people are going to go out there and say, OK, I'll take the personal liability? Because the actual real alternative is to say, make it above board, which would mean they go to James O'Keefe and say, I agree with formal termination and we're clean.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Have a nice day. Tim, I'm going to go. When James O'Keefe came out and said he was terminated, all they have to do is say agreed or the idea that they're like, oh, no, we're going to be prosecuted because James is violating his NDA. Hold on, back up. I agree with you 100% here. What they should have done was call the attorneys in before they ever took action, sat O'Keefe at a table in a closed-door room like this, and said, hey, guys, to the attorneys, hypothetically, if this were the situation with an executive here and we wanted to maintain the status quo and still be compliant how could we go about that and everybody could
Starting point is 01:15:12 have shook hands and walked out of that room as friends yeah that's where they that's where they screwed it up that's what makes me think it was an emotional response that they just did it to him in public i think it was the way it was done, I disagreed with. Greedy. I played devil's advocate because I've sat on boards, but the way it was done in terms of a PR exercise was devastating the organization. Unless it was on purpose. I don't think it was. Like I said, I've spoken
Starting point is 01:15:36 to both sides. Even the pro-O'Keefe faction on the board didn't feel it was done on purpose. They felt like you, that it was a moronically horrible execution, but they didn't feel it was done on purpose? They felt like you, that it was a moronically horrible execution, but they didn't feel it was malice in it. How was there anything other than a pro-Okie faction to what he started?
Starting point is 01:15:53 People get very, Tim, people get nervous if they think they're going to be personally sued or potentially could be prosecuted. They tend to change their perspective. You resign. It doesn't matter. You already knew about it. The minute you became aware of the situation, your resignation doesn't insulate you that's the problem so so
Starting point is 01:16:09 look if you don't blow the whistle they can go right back it may be nothing all i'm saying is from playing devil's advocate if you're an individual look if you're a you're a you're a board member of a bank you find out there's extortion you don't report it the fact you can't just quit and throw your hands up. The fact that they published a letter which actually said several people who signed it didn't actually experience any of this, that had ridiculous stories like James stole a sandwich from a pregnant woman, just shows, in my opinion, malintent. Well, those were petty examples too.
Starting point is 01:16:41 I mean, when I read that letter. So there were no real examples. I called a couple of board members. I go, why would you ever publish this letter this is moronic i said this tells people nothing it makes you guys look horrible it made look i don't disagree with you i'm just saying from from a devil's advocate standpoint i can understand why some people not everybody not everybody there's no there's no fortitude i just don't there's a lot of people are weak there's no devil's's end. There's no justification. None of that adds up.
Starting point is 01:17:07 The amount of hoops you have to jump through to make it make sense why they would do this to James is absurd. The simple solution is either greedy, envious people were angry with James O'Keefe
Starting point is 01:17:19 and wanted to hurt him in some way or they were intentionally destroying Project Veritas. You know what I think it also was? O'Kee he's a brilliant guy and the way he goes about things and and sometimes with genius comes a bit of an oddball personality i think he ruffled some board feathers because he wasn't warm and fuzzy people started to get offended and maybe they wanted to check them i don't think anybody ever wanted it to spiral out of control like this. Yeah, they did. They wanted to check them.
Starting point is 01:17:46 What's the lowest level of hell reserved for? Traitors. Yeah. Betrayers and mutineers. And if you get on Twitter, that's spelled T-R-A-D-E-R-S. So when you are brought into an organization founded by someone who has done the hard work
Starting point is 01:17:58 and sacrificed and risked everything for it, and then you decide you're better than them and should destroy everything they built, I just consider you being worthy of the lowest lowest level the lowest and also don't put don't put lawyers and finance people on your boards so but he must when they founded project veritas he had to have two others on the board with him even from the inception point so i don't know if they were names i don't know if they were there so they may be gone new the board seemed pretty new one one guy on the board who was pro keKeefe is a business guy out of Florida that I know real well, real nice guy.
Starting point is 01:18:28 The other was an old friend of his who wound up being adversarial with him. So it was weird. The whole thing was very, very weird. Robert Barnes, I was listening to him in Viva Frey talking about it a couple days ago. saying that um veritas wants to sue o'keefe to make sure that all the people that are donated that were donating to veritas that are now donating to omg that they get that money now but he's saying that like o'keefe brought that money to veritas in the first place yeah that's that's not that's not accurate you know robert's a good guy but his takes have been a little off because you can't tell a donor the one group that's impervious to any of this are the donors
Starting point is 01:19:02 they can take their dollars but they did literally sue him to stop him from communicating with Veritas donors. Yeah, but that didn't work. The donors, I mean, look, I was made privy, and I probably shouldn't have been to some donor emails, some of the large ones. And those donors were pretty adamant. We're going with him. Yeah, you can donate to whoever you want. We're going with them.
Starting point is 01:19:17 It's our money. We don't really care what you do. We have more money than you do. Outside of that, back to what we're seeing with Tucker Carlson, I do think, whether intentional or not, we are seeing very damaging efforts made with an upcoming election trying to silence two powerful voices. This is what I heard. Anti-establishment voices. Now, maybe you guys can confirm or deny this.
Starting point is 01:19:37 I don't know. But that Rupert Murdoch's girlfriend, I think it was Rupert Murdoch's girlfriend, said that she told Rupert that she thought Tucker was a prophet. And Tucker didn't like that because he felt that Rupert didn't like that because it was a threat to his ego. I was told that story by a former, very senior Fox executive. Okay. I've heard it all over the place. So I will tell you that the person that told me this was very close to Roger Ailes. And they are, in terms of a source on this type of thing as good as it gets you know the
Starting point is 01:20:06 other thing with tucker could just be profit i mean the guy is powerful he's got reach he's going to be successful wherever he goes the guy could stand outside put up a video camera and stream it he's going to get 80 million views he's taking revenue from fox and the claim that he breached his contract because he posted a video on twitter it's dumb it's stupid so they got him on golden handcuffs at the moment they benched him they kept him on contract and they're like now you can't do anything that would compete with what you used to do but that like that that means you can't make an internet video i mean that's that's how far does this the other problem like a president to find compete with what he used to do this is one thing that you're seeing
Starting point is 01:20:40 left-wing commentators who want to dunk on him say oh the production value isn't very good this looks nothing like he looked when he was on cable news i mean well he's still getting a lot of views right and maybe maybe there's an argument to be made there too that the fact that there isn't the same level of production quality uh means it is not a competitive product right he's just talking i don't know how you can have a contract that says like you're not allowed to voice any of your opinions on the internet i think if he started you'd think that he would have seen that or his lawyers would have seen that if they tried putting it in there and said no you know i think they're doing you know being more on the private equity side of the world now i think this one is strictly about dollars
Starting point is 01:21:14 look they know that whenever tucker if tucker decides to launch a nightly show in his old time slot he is pulling tens of millions in revenue monthly from Fox. They know this. So what they're doing is what big companies do. They try to scare you with litigation because they have deep pockets. The problem for Fox is so does Tucker. It's a guy worth nine figures, a guy who could lay out eight figures in legal and not feel the hit. He's going to make it back.
Starting point is 01:21:37 He could generate that revenue now. Fox is a real fight on their hands. 80 million views on Twitter. Tucker could probably reasonably charge half a million dollars per advertisement. That's what I said the other day. You and I are of like mind. Somebody said, what do you think he could get for ads or live reads? I said, minimum half a mil.
Starting point is 01:21:51 For a nightly show? I think it's Tucker. In general, if we were getting 85 million hits per video, I would actually probably charge a million bucks. We don't want to do that. That's actually low. If you're getting 80 million views, you should have a hundred million in your net rolling in without worrying about it when you get out of bed in the morning. To be fair, that was his first episode.
Starting point is 01:22:14 And Elon retweeted it. And so it's going to get a ton of play. I'd imagine he lands around 7 million per episode. It's 7 million per episode that you're still pulling. You're still going to, if he's doing 7 million, he's doubling his Fox show. But after the 7 million. He should get half a million dollars for seven my point he got uh 243 000 followers today right twitter wow that's up from 40 000 yesterday so he had
Starting point is 01:22:33 18 000 on monday 40 000 yesterday 240 000 today and counting um yeah man he's so that's 10 million a month right so so it's a half a million a day but that's 10 million a month you do one one hit right one one one ad a day per per show is going to wake up at 2 p.m wake up at 2 p.m do that you got half a million a day coming in his producer is a week his producer is going to be like here's a bunch of the stories we've gone through he's going to read through the news they're going to work on the script for 40 minutes then he's going to lay out his argument for 10 minutes and he's going to go back to bed no he's going to go sleep in his pool of money actually I don't want to go back to bed
Starting point is 01:23:11 I'm going to swim and to your point if the guy does half a million per pop he's got 120 million a year rolling in they weren't spending 20 million a year to produce his show absent his salary his production value can exceed Fox.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Let's pull up this next story. Oh, that's a very good point. Ladies and gentlemen, it has been a very, very good week. It's been a very good past couple of months. I hope you're all very happy. As Bud Light collapses, Modelo becomes number one, Target stock is crumbling, and all of those who embrace wokeness in these big corporations are seeing the stock take a big hit. We now have CNN CEO
Starting point is 01:23:42 Chris Licht out after Trump Town Hall. He's gone. They can't even host the frontrunner for the GOP. The corporate press is dead. Tucker Carlson gets 80 million views on Twitter. Nothing is stopping the cultural shift, the victories, or the strengthening, what we're doing. Have any popular, and I really, I use that word lightly, have any of the popular hosts from CNN
Starting point is 01:24:08 tried to launch any kind of web show? No, but they would take off if they did. If Don Lemon started his own web show, he'd be like making $10 million a month.
Starting point is 01:24:15 You're completely wrong. You really think so? I thought you were being sarcastic. No, no. You actually think that Don Lemon? Chris Cuomo, if he started his own? Chris Cuomo is on
Starting point is 01:24:22 News Nation getting 40,000 hits. Yeah. Nothing. Because this is the reality. Nation. News Nation. Getting 40,000 hits. Yeah. Nothing. Because this is the reality. Maybe it's too late. No, they're fake personalities. They are fake personalities propped up that no one actually watches.
Starting point is 01:24:33 Tucker is an actual thought leader with tons of fans and followers. That's right. I did Don Lemon's show once in 2011 or 12. I'm sorry, like 13 or 14. It was on BLM riots. And we got into somewhat of an intellectual debate about, my point was, you know, he said, well, let's bring it down.
Starting point is 01:24:55 He said, you know, I said, well, look, BLM is a disjointed organization. It has no leadership. That's why you've got some maniacs going out there, burning buildings down. He says, well, who would be a leader? I said, well, I don't know, Oprah. This woman is a business woman. She knows. and i got into how this woman created a two billion
Starting point is 01:25:08 dollar empire from nothing and lemon was like a deer in the headlights he's just a dim bulb he's a dumb guy he's not an intelligent guy he could never to tim's point he could never pull off what tucker pulled off anderson cooper he'd be he'd be making some good money i walked i think i don't think so i think he'd make more than the other people, probably, but nowhere near Tucker territory, right? No, not at the moment. And it depends on how you define a good money. I mean, I guess I couldn't even really put an estimate on it.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Look, Anderson Cooper is a famous guy. He can make money. Don Lemon is laughably bad. However, how many people have you ever met where they're like, yo, did you catch Cooper 360 last night? Right, right. Yeah, did you hear what he had to say? Tucker Carlson has fans and followers.
Starting point is 01:25:51 Anderson Cooper does not. He has a little bit, a little bit. He is a celebrity. But most people just know who he is because of the ads and the billboards. Whereas the people who know Tucker know him for his thoughts and his monologues, his ideas. He has dedicated followers, too. You know, Cooper and Lemon and Chris Cuomo as well. They were background fodder, right?
Starting point is 01:26:10 People watched CNN. Yeah, they watched CNN. They were on in the background. They knew them. They were comfortable. The only place I could see an Anderson Cooper ending up, he'd be like one of those Discovery ID investigative guys or like Nat Geo reports. They'd give him a show.
Starting point is 01:26:24 They'd give him a few million bucks a year. Yeah, he'd get a good sendoff from the cia for all of his years of all his years of hard work that's a joke calm down maybe he and he and kendall anion and and so with the wrens tucker carlson when he was let go from fox we spent so much time speculating over what story he broke that was the straw that broke the camel's back because tucker was subversive and he actually reported on things that people in power didn't want the american people to know about that's how you know he was a good reporter that's how you know he was genuinely good at his job rather than just being popular because we were having conversations about the stories he broke the things he talked about that no one else was
Starting point is 01:27:03 willing to touch and we couldn't even narrow down which one it was that got him fired because there was so much when don lemon got pushed out of cnn no one was wondering oh yeah which story do you think which subversive story that don lemon broke well do you think was the reason those powerful people pushed him out we were actually arguing what unstable outburst led to his removal. That's true. Is that why he got Vivek Ramaswamy? Don Lemon? When he snapped on Vivek, reportedly, that's why they got him. Whatever ethnicity he is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:31 That's what he said, right? That's what he said. And he said, whatever ethnicity you are. What? Wow. What? He's not the brightest bulb in the box, but I'll actually disagree. I'll agree with you and disagree with you on Tucker.
Starting point is 01:27:40 People forget the intangible with Tucker. Guy's been around DC a long time. He belongs to all the right private clubs. He knows where a lot of bodies are buried. I think it's as much about the stories he hasn't yet done. That's a very good point. As much as the stories he did and the stories they didn't want done. Dude, that's a really good point.
Starting point is 01:27:58 I didn't even consider that. And they know he's shown them over the past several years. He's telling those kinds of stories, man. He's got Epstein's client list and he's just like that's what i'm saying he's like i've been waiting for a slow news day he's like people are only talking about the wildfire this he's got a lot i mean you made a statement earlier when you were preempting your your ideas that uh when when fox let tucker go but i think technically they didn't let him go they have him on a golden handcuff on contract still they do so i love tucker and what he's done and
Starting point is 01:28:25 what he represents but i also look at this as cut and dry fox owns him they're gonna sue him get a ton of money for breach of contract and he's gonna have to stop making content for his contract i'm gonna disagree with you i think i think he's got the kind of dollars liquid that he just gonna turn around and say hell with you guys and's going to throw a ton of money at attorneys. He's going to fight them. He's going to jam them up. One thing Fox doesn't want to do, and it's not unique to Fox, it's every large corporation, they don't want to peel back onions in discovery. That's the last thing they want to do. Because look, you got to remember, when you produce discovery of things pertinent to a lawsuit, you're pretty much self-policed, right? You produce
Starting point is 01:29:06 what you and your attorneys feel is pertinent to discovery. Your attorney is officer of the court, is trusted that you're producing what you're supposed to produce. Well, Tucker knows a lot more about the intermachinations of Fox than Dominion does. The last thing Fox wants is for Tucker in discovery to compel discovery on some things that should have been produced a dominion but weren't and have dominion reopen another matter wow so you think that uh tucker will threaten to take it to court and then they'll drop the case i think he'll ignore them he'll ignore them he'll just hire attorneys i don't think he'll even hire an attorney well i think he has to right because if they sue him well they're gonna have he's gonna have to respond to the complaint so far send him a letter saying you're in breach right he can do nothing if they file it right he could do nothing if they file a complaint he's gonna have to respond to the complaint. So far, send him a letter saying you're in breach. Right. He can do nothing.
Starting point is 01:29:45 If they file it, right, he can do nothing. If they file a complaint, he's going to have to answer in the 20 plus 10 or 30 days, whatever. I imagine what they'll do is they'll send the lawsuit with a letter of intent to file claims or whatever to engage. Yeah, they'll send a sample complaint, like a mock complaint. That's what they do. Not yet filed. And here's what we're going to do if you don't stop. Then he hires a lawyer or he might even still just ignore it and say file it in court because he just represents himself no no because
Starting point is 01:30:09 they're not gonna because the moment they do he can say okay i agree discovery time baby because it's not his his computer's being opened up it's theirs oh it's theirs look they're gonna they're gonna ask him for discovery but his is really limited in scope, right? If they're going to be ambiguous about why they let him go or they severed ties or they benched him, he can turn around and play dumb. Say, I have no idea. Let's open everything. Yep. That's the last thing they want to do. Do you think they want, I mean, you know, the head of PR at Fox has a reputation for being a notoriously evil woman.
Starting point is 01:30:41 Do you think they, I don't want to say her name because I don't. I mean, she's in PR, right? There's a reason you get good at convincing people that someone with a bad reputation has a good one the last thing they want are her texts and emails to be produced in discovery especially the internal stuff so it would be pretty brutal i think i think he's got them he's got them in a rough spot so would they release him from his contract then or they just let it i mean it depends on how the attorneys were look listen they he's gonna claim they owe him money they're gonna claim he owes them money and at the end of the day he's gonna wait yeah they might just watch it out he'll say just leave me alone let me go and they'll say we're not gonna give
Starting point is 01:31:15 you a dime and everybody walks away maybe i think it's more likely that he wins something he probably will yeah because because everybody else has all fox this golden handcuffs thing is is is going to be viewed very negatively, in my opinion, if it does ever go to court. And they know that, that Tucker was contracted to produce a show,
Starting point is 01:31:31 to host a show. They then decided he will not do that. So now they either let him go or they pay up. And so he's saying, if we have an agreement where it's like, I'll pay you X in exchange
Starting point is 01:31:43 for you to come on the show. And then I tell you, you can never come on again. and then you say, well, then I'm going to leave. I say, no, you can't do that either. Like, I can't do that. Like, that's ridiculous. The agreement is that you are hosting the show. Now, they may have something in these contracts because they're robust contracts, but I really doubt that there's going to be a judge who's like, well, no, Tucker, you're not allowed to work right now. It's more likely going to be like, this makes no sense.
Starting point is 01:32:06 There should be a settlement for separation. Right, right. In which case, Tucker will likely say, you've got to pay me X. So I've been in these media contracts before. And people have asked me like, oh, what if, you know, you leave? Or like, what if they don't want you around? I'm like, they got to pay out the remainder of the contract. That's the purpose of the contract.
Starting point is 01:32:24 It guarantees I get X dollars for this time period. If at any point they want to break that, they got to pay me out. I assume what they're trying to do is say, we didn't actually fire Tucker. They did. And Tucker would argue, they fired me in breach of the contract. So they have to pay me out and I'm leaving. As opposed to if he chose to leave, then they just wouldn't pay him out? And then they may actually say you're on the hook for...
Starting point is 01:32:51 Yeah, they want to claw back some of the income. We paid you for three years. Right. And if you leave, they might say he owes us the remainder of those years. You know, one of the things that leads me to believe, I agree with Tim and think that Fox, the last thing they want is to go go to litigation is they're not slamming him in the press they haven't they haven't leaked anything on him they haven't dropped nasty releases on him they're being really tepid in the way they approach him they're tiptoeing around him part of that's obviously they don't want to lose the remaining viewers of his that they've kept but uh it's an unusual way to go about it when you're
Starting point is 01:33:23 going you know he's a grizzly right you typically take a kill shot when you go bear hunting like that. Yes, yes. And they're not doing that. If he had violated the contract, that would have been the first sentence out of their mouths. Yeah, yeah. All right, well, let's go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, my friends,
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Starting point is 01:34:02 for kids eventually 90s kids rule adult suck era trained millennials into low quality rebels franchised activism now beliefs are mostly based on what people are against yeah i remember that as a kid in the 90s this whole like hate your parents man parents are dorky they don't know but my parents were super cool and i was like this is all weird it's propaganda love your parents i guess because they love people that are good to you do you remember They don't know, but my parents were super cool, and I was like, this is all weird to me. It's propaganda. Love your parents, I guess. Love people that are good to you. Do you remember on The Simpsons, buy me, Bonestormer, go to hell.
Starting point is 01:34:32 No. It's like, go tell your parents. As a Federali says, Tim, your monologues deserve 70 million views. I seriously think you and others are being throttled. I remember writing B-school essays about how little impact net neutrality would have and wanted to smack myself ajit pai was a was a sly bad guy um well if you like the videos i produce share them but yeah we're all being throttled you know however i i do periodically get messages from people and they're like oh i your your video was suggested to me and i recently got hit up by a high profile individual who said that my videos were being suggested to him so i'm like
Starting point is 01:35:08 that's good news right you know i don't see any of your stuff i don't get them suggested i rarely see you in my feed that's that's believable every time i ever see a clip from the show i clear not interested sometimes if i'm feeling really spicy i'll hit report i'm just gonna start putting community notes on for the hell of it now. As I got to report this one, we saw it was under Tim. No, I really, I don't see your stuff. So you definitely
Starting point is 01:35:28 on Twitter. I don't ever see anything you promote. Rarely. I would say I'd get 20 tweets of yours. I may see one or two on Twitter in my feed.
Starting point is 01:35:36 I do. I do get your stuff or our stuff, I guess, recommended to me on Twitter. We're going to start putting all of
Starting point is 01:35:44 all of our shows on Twitter, like many other people are starting to do now. I think the issue is Tucker kind of hit it out of the ballpark, and then we're all jealous. And I was watching that, and I was looking at it, and I was like, I want 80 million views. I want to be on Twitter. Matt Walsh, too.
Starting point is 01:35:59 I want 80 million views to be on Twitter also. Yeah, come on. What the heck? Why don't I get that? Why don't I get that? Why don't I get it? So I was thinking, actually, I think it's reasonable to assume that if I were to put up my 20-minute TimCast news segments, I'd probably get a couple hundred thousand hits per video. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:36:16 A lot more virality, a lot more shares. I imagine the retention would be slightly lower. Yeah. But there is still a path to monetization in that if if you know if we're selling casper coffee in these videos and we're getting a hundred thousand you know hits on each of these clips and we convince 10 people to buy a bag it is worth posting them on twitter also you have twitter subs subscriptions are you guys in you're doing twitter subscriptions that's a lucrative model that i've i've signed up for i've seen them they've started yeah youtube also has a very interesting
Starting point is 01:36:46 infrastructure for keeping people watching i mean the way twitter functions is you're constantly scrolling through it incentivizes you to look at something very briefly then keep scrolling look at something briefly so i mean keeping someone invested for a 10 to 20 to you know 30 to an hour long even video, I think could very well require like a restructuring of the interface and the way it looks. Yeah, you want as many, well, not as many,
Starting point is 01:37:12 but you want all the buttons you need on the full screen model from the UI, that's for sure. So like about what Twitter needs right now is a skip ahead 15 second, rewind 15 second button on there. But other than that, it's looking svelte well just like you know when you're on youtube and you scroll you only see that video in the comments on that video and then off to the side there's other recommendations like on twitter you just always have the option to scroll to something else all right what do we got i'm not
Starting point is 01:37:37 your buddy guy says most of the fires in canada have been arson hmm is that true hmm remember when they uh when there were those far leftists that were starting fires there was like a crazy guy who was like throwing firebombs into the brush yeah and then the media was like it's not happening like there's a video of a guy what are you talking about they're mostly peaceful this is yeah mark hesseltine says orange sky bad i mean literally yes it's it's not good i guess we don't know what we got here john sarah sanguinis is that what is sarah sanguinis the this is only news because on the east coast yearly thing on the west coast bubkis well yes it's because half of the u.s population is in eastern time And then everyone else is spread out throughout the various deserts and cornfields.
Starting point is 01:38:26 This is the truth. All right. Those deserts and cornfields are pretty awesome, especially the cornfields. Cornfields are based. Cornfields are super based. Watching corn from above when the wind's whipping it around is cool.
Starting point is 01:38:37 It looks like silk. I will say, though, not a fan of the whole let's make everything out of corn thing. Like, every single thing we make, there's some guy trying to figure out how we can make it of corn instead of what it's supposed to be made of. No, I know, but it's just very bizarre.
Starting point is 01:38:47 Because you're like, hey, normally it would cost me $100 to buy this raw material, and corn would cost $200, but they've paid for the corn, so it's free, so I'd rather just try and figure out how to make corn glass.
Starting point is 01:38:59 We're going to make cars out of corn. We're like, we're 50 years from your family being made of corn. Corn hub. I'm going to keep a corn hub and looking to make that joke for like. Corn hub. I'm going to, I'm corn hub and looking to make that joke for like 48 hours and I'm going to make it again when it's better. Oh, that was corn hub. Well, you see the
Starting point is 01:39:11 corn emoji is what they say for porn when they're trying to avoid sensors and stuff on different platforms. Didn't someone make corn hub and it was like a bunch of corn videos? I'm looking it up. I don't want to click on. That sounds like chicken city dude. It's like a corn version of chicken city. A live stream of a corn field. You're just watching corn grow. A bunch of videos of i'm looking it up i don't want to that sounds like chicken city dude it's like a corn version of chicken a live stream of a cornfield watching corn a bunch of videos of just different cornfields and people harvesting corn talking about corn oh my gosh team zaplin
Starting point is 01:39:32 says jamis my 64 year old wife thinks you're attractive should i start thinking ai uh what do you mean well i'm not sure well you know that's very sweet of your it's very sweet of your wife start thinking ai is that what he said yeah i'm not sure like putting, you know, that's very sweet of your wife. Start thinking AI. Is that what he said? Yeah, I'm not sure. Like putting your face on his body? Please don't. I think we're really delving too deep into this. Yeah, I don't think that's what he was saying.
Starting point is 01:39:52 I'm uncomfortable. Yeah. Jeremiah Dobler says global warming is a religious belief. The cherry harvest in Washington State will be two weeks delayed this year, the longest delay in history because the spring was too cold. Farmers know the truth yeah man just look up on the internet are we still in an ice age if you want to search it for yourself yes we are we are coming out of an ice age we're in an interglacial period right now
Starting point is 01:40:13 that's why it's warming up the ice is melting on purpose because we're leaving the ice age or have you considered that inventing the internal combustion engine was man's original sin it was i just want to say obama set back interglacial relations for years decades decades he didn't did he even know he was doing it he didn't know he was doing it i assume he was doing it tom cabana says i'd love to try some cast brew coffee but my order got lost dhl says they delivered it they didn't they direct me to you guys you guys directed me to dhl end result no coffee for me um i i'm sorry to hear it man the only thing I can really say is if DHL says they delivered it but they didn't then it really is on DHL
Starting point is 01:40:50 uh but let me write down that order number and see what we can do the other thing is like we have a lot of people who email us with well I'll I'll just we'll we'll look into it that was nice super chat because you could have used that money to buy another order, but instead you brought it to our attention. That was very cool. Let me write this down here, Chaos Debreu. But yeah, so the challenge for us is if we take a package of coffee, we give it to the shipping guy and they're like, so we got it.
Starting point is 01:41:21 And then they report it's been delivered. We've already handed it off. You know, it's gone shipping. so like we don't have it like we don't like there's no circumstance in which we get an order for coffee and then we like chuck it into a waste bin and just claim that it went out yeah like all the coffee gets loaded up into the thing given you send out to shipping and then i don't know whatever they do with it but we'll look into it i wrote i wrote your order number down sorry to hear it buddy we'll see what we can do maybe we'll just uh send you out a bag we'll have to look into what the order was and everything tom forsyth says a butterfly flapping its wings can cause a hurricane on the other side
Starting point is 01:41:53 of the world i propose a mission to find and kill that butterfly yeah i think i think that's also like either pro or anti-butterfly propaganda i don't know that one butterfly that's chaos theory i like it pinochet's helicopter tour says that church is five minutes away from me was obliterated i just might i like that username yeah well what is this tarzan jungle kung fu says bootleg fire in oregon was bad almost half mile acres the holiday farm fire was near me everything looked like blade runner 2045 deep red orange air quality so bad most places shut down stay safe yeah my uh my sinuses have been bad yeah yeah i drank a huge amount of water you know mine usually are bad
Starting point is 01:42:37 but they've been great lately i think things are finally turning around for me what could possibly go wrong yeah you guys you guys are having a sinus maybe i was just built for this for this weird smoky weather built different that's tough it's a difficult thing to figure out it's very cleansing this might be like a new trend like a new spa it's like a wildfire going to go into an unventilated room full of smoke toxic smoke room therapy have you done rapé they they shoot the tobacco smoke up into the nose and blow it out is that a thing i mean i've definitely had tobacco smoke go up my nose but i've never that's intentional i live in south florida you could find bored housewives to pay 500 bucks a pop to
Starting point is 01:43:13 stand in a room of toxic smoke if you market it properly all right bobcat says you're going straight to space lasers tim you need to look up the world war ii bat bomb it did more damage in japan than the a-bomb i read about that like was it literally bats like they released a whole bunch of bats yeah and the bats had uh i think they had like incendiary like little little pieces of flame on them some kind like little some little like lit uh like fuse i guess and landed in all the wood it's true the bomb consisted of a bomb-shaped casing with over a thousand compartments each containing a hibernating mexican free-tailed tail bat with a small timed incendiary bomb attached.
Starting point is 01:43:47 That is some Looney Tunes stuff right there. Wow. That is ridiculous. Wile E. Coyote level warfare. Exactly. They literally packed bats into a bomb. Hey, they sent balloons at us so we had to get them back somehow. Those balloons were flying for a while too.
Starting point is 01:44:04 It's kind of crazy. It actually did a lot of damage because they just lit everything on fire because japan at that point was all made out of like wood and paper essentially so i guess if like you're yeah i guess if your enemy's civilization is built out of wood and paper you could just send flaming bats at them i don't think they're using this anymore though i mean firstly peter you you could like this is how backwards things are you could bomb civilians with something like this and then PETA would be upset about the bats I was feeling that
Starting point is 01:44:31 isn't it easier to just drop a regular bomb it's time consuming to insert the little device on all the bats they were going for collateral well first you have to sing a lullaby to the bats so they fall asleep and you put them in there an all woman firefighter crew lost control of a prescribed burn in banff canada causing a 70 acre forest fire what are the odds oh is that what happened recently or was that canada is that some time ago
Starting point is 01:44:54 yeah that's up in the mountain well i don't know if you know this but like alberta the the point of having a fire department isn't so it can put out fires it's so you can make everyone feel special because they get to be a firefighter british columbia is like all the way west it's not yeah that's right they were female for the most part yeah 50 50 mostly female fire villainous v says tim have you heard about italy making june family pride month celebrating families and protecting the kids i did hear something on twitter well there you go. Doing something. Damage Controlling says, we'll boycott companies for targeting children,
Starting point is 01:45:31 but won't delete the social media that actively rots your brain as they solicit and promote active child abusers. If you still have Instagram after today, you are the problem. I completely disagree. These are the social spaces where we are trying to win the culture war. If there were a bunch of creepos in the city center, wouldn't be like quick everyone flee the city center there's bad people there you'd be like quick let's go to the city center and stop these creepos so we want to be in these spaces to dominate the conversations and not let them get access to kids however for as for instagram we should all demand instagram do something and stop you guys heard about this
Starting point is 01:46:04 right they're they're actively promoting these algorithmic uh these hashtags for trafficking that's crazy cam girl as soon as Tim and company please stop with his advanced weapons garbage your position is we know about X so they must have extra secret ultra weapons we don't and your position is stupid you're better than that except ian we love the ones yeah but i think you're wrong the u.s would not declassify nuclear submarines without contingencies that makes literally no sense it doesn't mean that what they actually have are more powerful but they're certainly different so if they're coming out and they're saying this is the inside of our nuclear submarine they're either lying or they have something totally different and also they're not going to give the something totally different and also they're
Starting point is 01:46:45 not going to give the enemy access to information pretending how to right subvert our weaponry that and not only that we have a history of the military admitting that they disclose classified technologies when the next generation or at least implying that they disclose and what was it the sr-72 or the sr-71 well first the u-2 spy plane lockheed skunk works right then the sr-71. Well, first the U-2 spy plane, Lockheed Skunk Works, right? Then the SR-71, then the F-117 stealth, the B-2. So they've always disclosed the classified technologies when the next generation is operational. But those literally existed for decades before we knew they existed. Yeah, like we said earlier, I think the stealth fighter, the F-117, went operational in the late 70s. We found out about it in the late 80s, early 90s.
Starting point is 01:47:20 I think we first found out about that when we hit Noriega in 89 with those. And it was operational about 11 12 years prior yep yeah i tend to say like what if what kind of weapons do we have you know i like to pose it as a question rather than be like we definitely have these advanced weapons that i don't know anything about like i'm not gonna you know yeah but i will question triton 54 says co2 is an inert gas. We literally use it to put out fires. Yes. Well, all right. That's badass.
Starting point is 01:47:49 Stevie Vivi says, don't forget Northup Grumman publicly announced a plane that was not completed yet over a year ago and still has not flown yet. How many questions? The likelihood that the U.S. military has weapons that we don't know about is like 100%. I hope they do. I don't want the bad guys, our our enemies to know all the stuff we have i hope we have you know multi-generational classified programs either operational or in development cde says you guys should sell chocolate covered coffee beans tried some at a farmer's market and it was surprisingly good i don't even like coffee that much oh they're incredible yes we will work on that the next
Starting point is 01:48:23 thing that we have coming for casper obviously is the coffees the uh decaf the new blends we'll be launching the the shamus potato blend i'm kidding i don't know what it's going to be it's going to be some kind of blend we're also going to be launching on the casper.com we're going to have various uh protein we're gonna have a protein powder i think and an mct and we're and we're going to do a specialty mct protein mix harder to make but uh we'll have that it'll be in small batch because we have to actually like formulate you know protein stuff's easy it's like you get you get protein and then you put it in the thing like you know what i mean like the mct has to be like balanced what is absolutely delicious if you like coffee beans or chocolate cover coffee beans is coffee bean and an almond one-on-one just eat them at the same time taste them together like a regular coffee bean yeah
Starting point is 01:49:09 just straight coffee bean and an almond because it kind of cuts the bitterness the almond does man what a flavor we have grapes everywhere i mentioned this yesterday yeah yo in a few months it's going to be bonkers there's going to be tens of thousands of grapes just all over the place on the property you've got? Yeah. That's awesome. Wild grapes, frost grapes. I was watching about how to make mead. I don't know if you can make mead out of- That's honey.
Starting point is 01:49:31 Yeah, it's honey. And they were like raspberry mead or something, some kind of- Yeah, the black raspberries are starting to ripen. So this morning I saw a black raspberry. I've been watching. It's this big one. It finally turned black. And then I was like, yeah, but it's still too early.
Starting point is 01:49:44 None of the other ones are ripe. And then when i came back a few hours later it had fallen off and so i'm like oh bummer lost it but uh but there were a couple others tried to tried a few they're amazing and then we have wine berries coming in a month we like it's really funny for people who don't live out in the rural rural areas when we have people come from cities they're like did you plant all these things and i'm like no this is just literally what happens every year right there's There's pawpaw. There's walnuts. There's apple trees.
Starting point is 01:50:07 There's cherry trees. We got two black cherry trees. There's wheat. We have honeysuckle. We have wheat just randomly growing everywhere. You can eat it. Yeah. It's just food.
Starting point is 01:50:15 It literally comes out of the ground. Look, I've got property in the Midwest. I won't even say where because in one spot, the sorrel mushrooms grow and they're ridiculously expensive oh and this property is on a river and it just happens to be the right condition and got a patch like this big and they just you sell an abundant get my way you grill them you could do pretty much anything with them they're awesome oh wow all right what do we got b walsh says the air pollution from the wildfires is just a giant orange wave showing support for trump yeah that's what i was thinking you knew that was coming i finally got the red one that's a sigh up equate orange with bad rush rush says j sock is doing a command wide
Starting point is 01:50:55 18 minute workout and 1.8 mile run to honor the suffrage of 18 years of don't ask don't tell i can provide verification of this if you want not mandatory but quote mandatory you ever see those bits where they're like do you think we should end women's suffrage and they're like yeah yeah and they're like okay yes suffrage and then they make them sign a petition so much suffraging why don't why don't republicans just do that why don't republicans just like introduce a bill saying like it's time to end women's suffrage people and then like the democrats are like oh that's so nice of them women shouldn't suffer and it's like yeah yeah suffrage is suffering here sign the paper yes same thing we're giving you this one
Starting point is 01:51:34 shane knox says here in florida we have controlled burns regularly no wildfires to speak of that's true we do them in the everglades you see them from where i live they yeah because i live right on almost on the ocean a mile away but the sugar fields the cane fields they burn them every day something's burning out there they just let it kind of turn to black ash and then re mulch the fields and stuff yep yep yep and they really never spread out of control it's true seve rose says critical thinking isn't helping in the fight against misinformation they're calling you stupid and it's not well veiled that's right yep pom pyro kj says many separate videos of helicopters dropping fire in multiple places in canada we shouldn't dismiss questions that should be asked especially when motives exist
Starting point is 01:52:18 just because it could be considered a conspiracy theory that's the video i was talking about when i saw the helicopter looked like it was shooting napalm down into the trees below. Maybe they were trying to do a controlled burn and burn a perimeter around the fire. Yeah, they burn a fire line. They burn a fire line so that they can control and they dig and then that fire stops.
Starting point is 01:52:34 Well, not that one, but the premise is to stop the spreading fire. Yeah. It's crazy. We have wheat growing everywhere and it just dies and then turns brittle and dry and you gotta get rid of it that's kindling yeah man that's gonna go up one spark yep it is kind
Starting point is 01:52:51 of funny how wheat like grows and then just dies i think it's kind of hilarious it lives for like a month or two yeah poor wheat gets tired of all but it's good food yeah it just gets tired of it all it's so exhausted with life what's the point point? Why are we still here? Just to suffer. I don't want to be a... Every night I feel my arm. I don't want to be a weedy. I live in a box. Monk in training says regarding the Project Veritas board power trip,
Starting point is 01:53:16 Rabbi Yisrael Salinter once said, man has the potential to see great lengths but a small coin blinds his vision. Very smart. That makes sense. Good line. James Wills says,
Starting point is 01:53:31 Seamus, as one who is an expert at missing the boat, I beg you, do not let last night's sail out of the harbor. What does that even mean? Oh, okay. I think he's talking to Mary Pearl. Oh, my goodness. It was really entertaining to listen to you guys talk. It was a fun conversation.
Starting point is 01:53:48 And then they stayed up here for like two hours afterwards. I left. We did, after the after show, we kept talking. You guys were sitting up here for like another two hours? No, it was probably like an hour after the after show. Two hours? About an hour. I'll say it's an hour.
Starting point is 01:54:01 So about two hours. Like two out. Oh, well. You guys can say whatever you want i'll just keep saying until you agree jacob says if the whistleblower was a psyop why wouldn't it be all over legacy media i paid attention because they didn't cover it deep state runs deep we're talking about the alien whistleblower the behind the whistleblower yeah do you remember that that completely astro turfed facebook whistleblower oh yeah expected to believe it was real that's
Starting point is 01:54:27 right she's gone she was so obviously put up there's like what needs to happen is the government needs more control here it was something ridiculous like oh here's a good one jerome morrow says tim please shout out arrested preacher damian atkins give send go campaign Damien Atkins Give, Send, Go campaign. Yeah, so that's really... Damien Atkins, huh? I am pulling that up. What is this? Is this the current one? Damien Atkins arrested after holding a sign with seven biblical words on it at a Pride event.
Starting point is 01:54:59 Yep. Yeah, if you guys Google search Damien... Wait, this is Damon Atkins. Is it Damon? Probably Damon. Yeah, just Damon Atkins. If you Google search that, you guys google search damien uh wait this is damon etkins is it damon just probably damon yeah just damon etkins if you google search that you can find uh damon d-a-m-o-n etkins if you want to support i that that's shocking i mean that they arrested that guy we can't stand for that this guy's got to win he's got to sue he's got to win as much as he can standing on
Starting point is 01:55:21 the sun up on a public sidewalk with a sign and they arrested him that's That's nuts. I mean, he's not with a group. I mean, there's some people there, but it's not like he's marching through the streets, obstructing anything, doing anything violent. It's not arrestable. I'm trying to find a picture of him. DuckDuckGo isn't showing it to me. Just search for his, get a picture. Oh, of course. B2TheRock says,
Starting point is 01:55:40 as a forester, the wildfire issue is far more nuanced than just climate change. There have been many policy changes in politics that have led us here. Completed my 20th PAC test today to fight fire again this season. Oh, that's awesome. Nice, man. Paul Tascalo says, Tim, any plans to head to Las Vegas for the World Series of Poker this year or next year?
Starting point is 01:56:00 If you love poker, playing a World Series of Poker event will make you feel like a football player in the Super Bowl. Hit me up for poker coaching uh no we we perhaps we'll go to vegas for like a big mma fight if we organize something like that we'll see uh that's that's the only thing we really ever talked about yeah tim taught me how to play poker and i just i just destroyed him and everyone else at the poker table and it was beautiful experience it's easy the opposite of what happened we went in there i was like rain man except for the part where he's good at things well so there were there were basically how i've been described my whole life there were several hands where seamus kept calling the bets and then would flip over ace king on a board where there's no ace king and like someone's got a straight that never happened no the you you beat me once.
Starting point is 01:56:45 No, actually. No, several times. No, no, no, no, no. You actually did beat me once. You were like, I don't have anything and you flip over ace king. I'm like, bro, what are you betting on? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:56:52 That didn't happen. I had an ace and queen and I had a queen and there was a queen on the board. No, that was top pair you had. That was a good bet. Yeah, but you beat me on it. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:57:02 I was like, how could I have predicted that my ace queen was going to be beat by whatever you had? I was like, it could happen. You literally could. It literally could happen, but I had a good hand. Bro, four, five, six. I had a good hand, and betting was the right choice.
Starting point is 01:57:14 No. Because I literally beat you in the hand before that, and then you got all your money back. Okay, Seamus, this is sad, okay? Because you're literally explaining why you don't know what you're talking about. That's also fair. Yeah, I have no idea. So let let me explain everybody who might know what poker is so it's actually kind of a kind of sad story for shame how can you say this because i had seven good bet i had seven three suited and i was like i don't know i think i was in uh the cutoff and
Starting point is 01:57:39 for uh the board the flop comes with like queen five six and so i'm like, I have a gut shot. I could get the straight. Seamus does have a queen with top kicker, so that was good. I raised you and then the turn comes, the fork, 4, 5, 6 on the board and I raised you. I've seen you raise when you have bad hands. I've seen you raise when you know
Starting point is 01:58:01 you have a bad hand. You're like, I'm just going to keep raising because I'm Tim. I can't give you poker lessons live on the show right now. Exactly. If I show you the bluff, I'm intentionally making you think when I'm strong, I'm weak. When I'm weak, I'm strong. So when I completed the straight and then raised you and you were like, well, I've got a Queens. I must be good.
Starting point is 01:58:18 And you gave me all your money. It's true. It was really funny because it got on my left. It goes, seven, three. What are you doing in that hand? I was like, bro, I was bluffing. And then I hit the five, six and got the gut shots oh those are the best you can take like all of someone's uh stack in those situations where you're very disguised well it was funny well
Starting point is 01:58:34 to be also like we were sitting at the poker table it's like i don't know if i want to play and tim's like look i'll buy you in the hand and so he just got money back yeah it didn't even matter i was like all right fine i was gonna have to give it back to you anyway but but simply when you're looking at the board and you think, like, I have a queen. So I have ace queen as a queen of the board. I must be winning. If someone else is putting money in, they think they're winning too. Yeah, no, for sure.
Starting point is 01:58:54 So if you just have one pair. I also know that you like to live on the edge. So I was like, this might be possible. But that's not true. You just think it is because I don't show you my cards unless I want you to think that I'm bluffing. So the one time I beat you with a bluff, I flip my cards and then you go damn he's bluffing me all the time well now i know then you call me all the way down when i have a straight and i take your money from you yeah that's fair you go seamus but it was fun he was he was hanging out everyone was
Starting point is 01:59:15 very happy he was there yeah they were very excited at the table bold i mean but to be fair you pretty much ended up getting all of my money that you gave me i don't think those other people really got much of it no they didn't clint was there too it was a lot of fun it's russell raymond g stanley jr says tim always bullying shamus yeah it wasn't fair but we're trying to see this shamus needs to learn how to play so he can be on poker with the boys that's true i literally so the thing is like when we go there i'll play blackjack i like blackjack um i've never really played poker before and so to do this show i'm really gonna have to play poker is really fun if you like to destroy people i guess i'm in yeah well so we we play fridays just for fun for like you know like little 20 bucks or whatever but the whole time we're joking
Starting point is 01:59:58 and saying extremely crude and offensive things that are the funniest things you'll ever hear that we can't repeat oh well i can't do that then. Because that's the part I don't like. If we tone down some of the hate speech by a notch or two, then it'll be totally... Turn the hate speech right around. Why can't we just do the hate speech thing without playing poker? I'd be great at that. Because that would take all the fun out of it.
Starting point is 02:00:20 But it's like the jokes everyone are saying, they're just unafraid. And so I'm like, we definitely need Seamus on this show. So you've got to be able to play the game. No, it's true. Look, it was fun. It was definitely fun. Yeah. I'll have to get some more practice in.
Starting point is 02:00:37 My problem. First time ever really playing, actually. With poker, it's great, is that I get so competitive that i want to debase the other person's will to live in the game like get them to question their own sanity like i will make them think that they're a loser and like fully just to win their money like i get very dark and dirty when i play that game that's how i am with the blackjack dealer i'm like and it's crazy too because some places allow really bad table etiquette really where like Where like, it's brutal, man. I won't play games.
Starting point is 02:01:07 Like, dude, look, these are low stakes games. One, two, it's a couple hundred bucks to buy in. You leave with a couple hundred bucks. You don't really lose a lot. You might make a little bit. Someone might lose a little bit. No one's like, it's not 10 grand at the table. This is low stakes.
Starting point is 02:01:20 But there are some people who are just so nasty and they know they can win if they trigger you, if they tilt you. So they'll say stuff like if, if you, if, if you play right, but still lose,
Starting point is 02:01:29 they will target you and say things that don't cross the line to get them kicked out, but we'll piss you off because they want you. They'll, they'll talk about your family. They'll talk about, Oh my gosh, a real series of poker.
Starting point is 02:01:40 Wild. I don't know about an actual tournament stuff. They might tell you to stop. Yeah. All right, everybody, if you haven't done already, would you kindly smash the like button, subscribe to this channel,
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Starting point is 02:02:00 No, just five. If you want to learn more, just follow me on Twitter at John Cardillo. I'm getting beat up. I'm pretty good these days by my old friends in Trump world because I moved over to the Santas, but it's been kind of amusing. By the way, I want to mention that Dirty Dog Luke in chat says that Seamus is a bum that deliberately loses to Tim so he doesn't get kicked out. Is that true? I mean, on the one hand, that does help me save face at poker.
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Starting point is 02:03:12 I'm excited for this. John, always great to see you, man. Yeah, man. It's always fun to be here with you guys. Always a great time. Super fun, dude. Thanks for the data. And I also have Mr. Dupre on my right.
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