Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #796 TRUMP HAS JUST BEEN FEDERALLY INDICTED, Biden Crimes EXPOSED In New Docs w/Adam Weiss

Episode Date: June 9, 2023

Tim, Ian, Seamus, Elad, & Serge join Adam Weiss to discuss Trump being indicted by the Biden DOJ, a new FBI document confirming a Biden quid pro quo, & DeSantis releasing deep fakes of Trump in new campaign video. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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to fire the Ukrainian prosecutor from someone in Burisma. Or I want to make sure we're very careful and very clear. We've got what appears to be FBI confirmation that Joe Biden was bribed. The bribery is related to firing the prosecutor. What many people long suspected or believed. We got a lot of big breaking news to talk about. Donald Trump being in debt for the second time. He'll likely be in debt a third time in Georgia. And then we have the Ron DeSantis campaign using AI images of Trump, Trump hugging and kissing Dr. Fauci. Now, to be honest, that one's substantially less consequential than the others, but it does pertain to the election and everything. So I think we should bring it up.

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You can follow the show at TimCastIRL. Don't forget to smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us to talk about this and so much more is Adam Weiss. Thanks for having me, Tim. Adam Weiss, I'm CEO of AMWPR, Strategic Political Communications Company. I'm the guy people call when they're in rikers or real crisis situation happens and one of these old friends of mine who was in rikers a dozen ago just texted me and said trump's been indicted again i can't believe this happened so it's a sad day in america and uh this shouldn't happen in our country right on well thanks for hanging out we also have a lot of elyahu. Hey, what's up, everybody? I am Alad. I'm a reporter

here at TimCast News. You can find me and other journalists here at TimCast News work at Twitter, at TimCast News. Thanks for having me, Tim. Right on. Seamus Coughlin. Look who we have here, Elan, back again. I'm Seamus. I'm really excited for tonight's show.

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let's do it all right we have this from Truth Social. Donald Trump has posted saying, The corrupt Biden administration has informed my attorneys that I have been indicted seemingly over the boxes hoax. Even though Joe Biden has 1,850 boxes at the University of Delaware, additional boxes in Chinatown, D.C., with even more boxes at the University of Pennsylvania, and documents strewn all over his garage floor where he parks his Corvette and which is, quote, secured

by only a garage door that is paper thin and open much of the time. He continues, I have been summoned to appear at the federal courthouse in Miami on Tuesday at 3 p.m. I never thought it would. I never thought it possible that such a thing could happen to a former president of the United States who received far more votes than any sitting president in the history of our country and is currently leading by far all candidates, both Democrat and Republican, in polls of the 2024 presidential election. I am an innocent man. This is indeed a dark day for the United States of America.

We are a country in serious and rapid decline, but together we will make America great again. Elon Musk has chimed in responding to ALX, posting this, saying there does seem to be far higher interest in pursuing Trump compared to other people in politics. Very important. The justice justice system rebut what appears to be differential enforcement or they will lose public trust. Elon, I appreciate the sentiment, but you are a couple years too late. It's happening. The federal indictment by the Biden DOJ is direct election interference. It is subversion of the United States election. It's just I don't even know what to say other than, you know, look, man, I don't see how

this country remains on this path. I don't see how the United States stands and continues to function when you've got the sitting president filing an indictment against his chief rival. And the same day, and we'll get to in a minute, where evidence is coming out proving Biden is corrupt and was taking bribes. Well, not just Biden, right? The entire political establishment has been for a very long time and we've seen selective prosecutions occur. I think in the case of Dinesh D'Souza, it was very obvious that his prosecution

was politically motivated, though he did commit a crime. It's one that typically is not pursued in one which almost never carries the penalty, which he received, which was jail time. So this has been happening for a while here. And now they're just moving on to higher and higher profile people

like the former president of the United States and one of the number one polling people who's currently running in 2024. When Donald Trump said that if he was in charge of the justice system in the United States, Hillary Clinton would be in jail and an absolutely brilliant moment, which was hilarious and very rhetorically effective. The response from the media was this sets a very dangerous precedent. Now, I think it's a little bit different, right? Because there are things that Hillary Clinton has done that we can point to and say almost anyone else who had done these things would at the very least be investigated and very likely be prosecuted. Now with Donald Trump, what they're trying to nail him for is having classified documents, even though he as president had the authority to declassify them and did so so there's absolutely nothing here but they want to lock him up because he is setting an example for the american people and so now they need to make one out of him i sure i sure think that trump

uh i bet trump regrets not prosecuting hillary clinton i was like we're gonna lock her up and then as soon as he got elected he's like like, we're not going to do it. And now he's probably really upset that he didn't because they're coming after him with everything they've got. Well, he had a weak Justice Department

from the beginning. Remember, Sessions gave in right away. It must have been a month into the administration. Yep. They went after Flynn. He VP-fired Flynn.

And we sat through four years of this Russia hoax every day. CNN, MSNBC, the whole mainstream, Russia hoax, and there was nothing there. But Jeff Session appointed a special prosecutor right off the bat and we have to live with that. You think Merrick Garland appointed a special prosecutor looking to Joe Biden's $5 billion?

Never. We have two tiers of justice in this country. I thought it was interesting that they released this on a Thursday at 7.40 p.m. right before we go live. I'm not saying we're the center of the universe, but do they want to make a public spectacle? Is this more about... Well, Trump announced it. That's true.

I was watching Tim Kass, and I thought quite frankly, they should break it. I would love that. Let's see if we can get him on the phone. That'd be amazing. If they want to make a public spectacle is it is the goal here to humiliate donald trump or is the goal to put him in jail both yes i think context here is very important so donald trump will be the first former president who's ever been indicted on something this is the second time he's going to be indicted so first in new york city the manhattan district attorney was working with the grand jury

to indict trump for these so-called hush money payments to Stormy Daniel. Now we have the Department of Justice looking into these classified documents. The second indictment that's ever come up. Also, there's, I think, potentially a third indictment that's going to come from Georgia surrounding efforts to potentially with what he said with looking looking for votes with that whole scandal. There's also another civil suit against the Trump organization about lying to lenders and insurers about his assets. But what's key here is that this is the first former president to be indicted. And I know there's a myth that nobody's above the law, but guess what? The president and former presidents actually are above the law. There's a lot of things that people could have thought of to

indict former presidents on. We spoke about it earlier barack obama drone american citizens overseed whether or not that you some people think that's justified that's something that could potentially be indicted on people call george bush that say that he started an illegal war in iraq but no the first indictment of a former president that we're seeing is initially for hush money payments and now this declassified document you're gonna start making me support this i mean if this opens the door for us to go after former presidents and prosecute them man i hope he gets off and he should but let's do it well what's he say if this is the first former president no agreed i agree i'm giving you a hard time if they indicted trump over the commando raids in yemen that resulted in the death of allegedly the death

of an american girl abdurmanman Al-Awlaki's sister. That one is more conjecture than Abdur Rahman Al-Awlaki, but should be investigated. If they indicted him for that, said an investigation found this to be the case, I'd be like, well, what do you want me to say? You order these raids and you kill American citizens, you get charged. They're not doing that.

They're not. They won't do that, because then everyone's going to be like mr obama right this way sir into this vehicle you know what though they're so shameless that they would prosecute trump for something like that and just not look into obama or biden i mean that's the whole point here right these people are all criminals and then all the people on twitter would be like well actually it's justified because in this instance yeah it's also dangerous though because when a republican president will eventually get back into office we will see attorney generals

in different states say hey let's go indict a former democrat let's go investigate until we find something a good prosecutor it could indict a rock so right we don't we don't know what the indictment is right now it's definitely a process, which is kind of a joke. And years ago, they got Martha Stewart on a process crime. So when you bring enough of a staff in front of the grand jury and somebody forgets one little thing

because they can't have the exact memory, oh, you're lying. So it's very easy when you have the whole weight of the justice behind you, millions of dollars, they can get you on anything. This is a real joke.

They're not going to get him that he's holding documents because he's ex-president. Then you'd have to go get Biden then you'd have to go get biden you'd have to go get pence you'd have to go get obama so it's just going to be a silly process crime but they want to stop trump from running and they want to stop him from do you guys want to see when a republican is eventually president again that um attorney generals from red states go after former Democrat. Absolutely. And former Republicans. And former Republicans. And former Republicans.

Go after Bush. Go after Obama. Go after Biden. Go after all of them. That's not how it would be, though. It would be hyper-partisan. Depends on the Republican, but you're probably right. Most Republicans wouldn't.

But I think somebody like Trump would. Maybe, yeah. Yeah. I think part of what makes this country great and has made it great is that we haven't fallen into petty squabble like that in 250 years. we just don't do that because we have bigger dish bigger issues short short shorten your time span here buddy okay 160 yeah i mean it's been since the civil war you could say right okay but well the most part petty squabble that was that wasn't petty yeah that was a big deal we had to end slavery and you know there was it was a big problem but this is like

just that he said she said he's carrying a box of documents he's he he signed this paperwork he ordered that kill he ordered that kill like yo it's the biggest military in the world it's the most dangerous machine on earth and someone's got to point the buttons point the point the guns um i i just there's so many more bigger problems on earth that we should be focused on than than arresting past political opponents it's so ridiculous man it's a dangerous sorry i know escalation of a tit-for-tat is what's going to happen well this is what's really shocking i shouldn't say shocking but something worth pointing out and it's that there are two segments of the population and they're relatively large demographics okay these are people who are either in category A, willfully ignorant, or in category B,

not willfully ignorant, who believe that this is the first time since Nixon that an American president has done something worthy of pursuing with an indictment or charges. There are people who are looking at this and they're saying oh my goodness all of our presidents have behaved within the law and haven't committed war crimes haven't betrayed the american people haven't betrayed their oath of office and then donald trump came along and there are good reasons to indict that man and the best of them is that he had declassified documents that he declassified himself people are willing to believe this well the remarkable thing is the logic makes no sense if trump can't declassify anything at any time then he's literally not the authority of this country to have conversations

pertaining to war how can you be the commander-in-chief of the armed forces and then this is the example i gave last time it's like you meet with vladimir putin and he's like you know i want you to move these missiles out of this territory what missiles yeah okay we know the u.s has missiles here you move them otherwise it's war i'm sorry i can't confirm or deny i don't have the authority biden probably does say what missiles though to be fair he's like what are you talking about man i don't know what you mean what is it they get on the phone he's like are there missiles in ukraine there are is oh man you think the implication then he gets offline he's like i don't know if there's missiles there you think that the implication is that donald trump didn't declassify the documents before

there's no process for it okay the president has plenary declassification powers he can literally just be like these are no longer classified so i i had them on me therefore they're not classified anymore he did say they were declassified but they're like arguing there's some kind of formal process by which the president does not need needs to get approval from someone else but they're not going after him on this apparently the report is that they're charging him with losing possession of classified documents or something like that or of sensitive national security documents so they're actually trying to avoid the question of whether or not he classified or declassified by saying it's a totally different law now losing acts losing control of secured documents is

something hillary clinton did when she would forward all that stuff to jake sullivan like out of her 30 000 emails or whatever she had there's there i've you know i should have one that i could pull up right now that was legitimate national security risk. But she was, as far as I understand, not supposed to be forwarding Secretary of State documents to this guy, Jake Sullivan. Well, Ian, I think there's a good argument to be made that every single one of the 30,000 emails that Hillary Clinton deleted was a potential national security risk if she were to be elected for one very simple reason. She didn't want people to see those emails. And there was a receiver, which means there were people who would have the leverage over the sitting president of the United States of being

able to release these emails that she deleted when she was subpoenaed. So that in and of itself means that someone else could end up pulling the strings or someone else could end up being in a position where the president owes them this favor because they have blackmail. You mean because someone else could end up being in a position where the president owes them this favor because they have blackmail. You mean because someone else received documents from Hillary that means anyone could have them? Well, no, my point is, so Hillary Clinton has these 30,000 emails, and then she deletes all of them, because she clearly doesn't want an investigation to be looking into those emails, she doesn't want the American people to see them. Well, here's the thing, she can only delete those emails on her end.

She can't go into the inbox of every person who can only delete those emails on her end she can't go into the inbox of every person who received one of those emails and then delete it which means there are people who had the emails that she didn't want the public to see which means those people have dirt on her have you know quote-unquote information that could lead to the arrest of hillary clinton and for as much as we joke about what happens to those people and for as much as i've said i think the real black pill is that no amount of information will lead to the arrest of hillary clinton the fact is it is a massive liability for the president of the united states to have information out there that people can blackmail them yeah i think so sitting on a blackberry cnn's reporting that is seven counts in the

indictment according to sources they came out for the first one like 31 counts i think of that first indictment and it was like but this is the same count for the, it was like one problem. Because the one problem was, you know, in 30 different emails, they were like, it's 30 different counts. That's what they do. Man, I don't even want to, it was more than 50,000 pages of private emails for Hillary, by the way.

I don't even want to prosecute Hillary. I just want people to know about it. Funny enough, he isn't the only president. We do need to prosecute Hillary. We do. I was kind of glad he didn't go through with it, i was devastated when he said that on stage because it really did set a precedent i thought no i i he's not the only i said uh trump's not the only president with classified document problems because joe biden's also under investigation right now for something similar handling the mishandling of classified documents so maybe we should speed up that investigation too well and i would take it a step further because he a vp can't declassify neither can a senator right he's the

president now but there's reason to believe that he stored these uh while he was vp or while he was a senator but i'm sorry i continue but going back to what what hillary it was only james comey the that brilliant fbi director we had at the time sat in front of had a major press conference said she did 10 things wrong, but I'm not going to pursue her. Could you imagine Merrick Garland or Jack Smith saying, well, Trump did 10 things wrong, but it's not we're not going to go after him. Never. So never again. Well, ladies and gentlemen, we do have more news because it's a heck of a day in this country. I just want to mention one thing. No, yeah, it was the documents were specifically discovered in a place that he was using before the start of the 2020 campaign right so these documents biden had had to have been collected while he was either vp or in the senate in either case he could not

declassify or not in office at all i mean if he got him in 2017 he wasn't even serving at any capacity at that point so joe biden is actually at the same time as trump is being indicted joe biden is being implicated in a bribery scheme, which it's expanding. We've known about it. Fox News reports Joe Biden allegedly paid five million dollars by Burisma executive as part of a bribery scheme, according to FBI document. Biden's son Hunter was a board member of Burisma and also allegedly in on the scheme. It's actually fairly simple. They wanted the prosecutor fired. The Post-Millennial

reports, MTG reveals FBI informant reported Biden was bribed to have the Ukrainian prosecutor fired who was investigating Burisma. On Thursday, Rep. MTG held an emergency event after reading the FBI's FD-1023 form that alleges a bribery scheme involving Joe Biden during his days as vice president, revealing that payments were made to the Biden family by Burisma, the Ukrainian oil company, which Hunter Biden sat on the board of. Back in 2015, 16, Burisma was looking to buy a U.S. based oil and gas company. And this came from being advised by Hunter Biden, advised by Hunter Biden and his partners. Biden said Victor Shokin was corrupt.

This is around the same time of his meeting, which was when Joe Biden, his vice president, said that prosecutor Shokin was corrupt. So we basically know what happened. Joe Biden goes to Ukraine, threatens the president. He says, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting the loan guarantees, which is illegal. He doesn't have the authority to do that. Those are congressionally approved loan guarantees. They told him that and he says, call the president, see what he says. He says, well, SOB, guy gets fired. And then we got in someone good, which is a complete fabrication. Victor Shokin, the prosecutor, was investigating Burisma. I think there was at least a dozen or more active investigations. And now we have from this FBI document what appears to be confirmation. It's all true.

The quid pro quo yeah in this situation i remember a president getting um impeached for something like this yeah yeah quid pro quo i remember hearing that right remember that little phrase so much constantly this is the pro to the quid pro they impeached donald trump for what joe biden did and now they are trying to indict donald trump for something joe biden also did also did all and all trump did was say can you look into this that's all and also but even this right i get the point you're making but it's it's a false equivalency because with the store with the store documents biden had no power to declassify and trump did so when people say these are the same thing it's like well no it's not because what biden did was worse maybe and same here right i don't know how to verify if they declassified it.

Because what if Obama's like, oh, yeah, I declassified all that stuff Biden's got in his garage. Yes. He's the full, he was the president. Yeah, he wasn't the president of the time. Obama. But if Obama, if we found Obama had documents, well, he was the president, right? But if the VP has documents that Obama declassified. Oh, I get what you're saying.

I'm sorry. I misunderstood. Well, we would need Obama to come forward and say oh yes and i gave those to him and said keep them keep them in your garage that's a good idea and leave some at your weird like little office in chinatown do that good job like maybe that happens maybe but i we have no reason to believe it man i want to know more about this fbi release if if you took it we're all into politics we watch this every day but if you took an average group of people that didn't watch politics and you lined them up and you said, the crime,

Trump had documents, Biden 5 million, so and so, I guarantee 90% of them said what Biden did is by far the worst. And Tim, if you Google right now, I bet nobody has this covered in the media except for Fox Mike Cernovich pointed out, they timed the indictment with the- Day of release. Yeah, the Burisma information. However, if that's true, Trump's the one who posted about it. To be fair, though, CNN did report it as well.

So maybe Trump came out and said this because it was getting picked up. I think they were planning on releasing it next week is what I saw, the indictment announcement. But maybe because this was dropping today, they were like, let's just get it out early. Yeah. CNN's reporting on the issue came 40 minutes after Trump's truth post. So does it cite his truth posts? It does. Yeah.

Yeah. It sounds like Trump wrote the story. Get ahead of it, DT. Right. It may be that Trump is the one who basically look the headline for this episode of Tim Kast IRL before the Donald Trump indictment came down was Joe Biden Burisma scandal report confirms bribery, blah, blah, blah, blah. And now we're reporting on. And now the lead story is Trump. That is exactly what the media narrative would like it to be anyway. They want us to be talking about Donald Trump right now and not Biden. I got to know more about this FBI document. I mean, I don't know what to trust, who to trust. I know there's a lot of evidence that Biden went over there and did some dirty work to get that prosecutor fired.

I mean, he admitted it in public. And laughed about it. Yeah. So last time Trump was indicted, he raised $34 million and got a little boost in the poll as a result of this. What do you guys think the electoral consequences of this will be moving forward? This is a federal indictment. This is big. Do you think it'll give him a bump and more like a rally around our guy effect as a result

of this? I have to wonder if they really just want Trump to be the nominee. They definitely want Trump to be the nominee. They don't want DeSantis. Yeah. But do you think that's what the move here was to make it seem like we're going after Trump and then make all the Republicans defend him? Because now what is DeSantis going to say about this? time in decades a president has done anything illegal or worth uh civil authorities looking into the reality is most people do know that's not true and so when one president is indicted by

a system that they know is corrupt and that they know allows for elites to commit crimes and is allowed for other presidents to commit crimes they go interesting why him right he he must be doing something that's different from all the things these political leaders have been doing to screw us for a very long time i think people on both sides of the aisle and moderates can see that if you're a democratic strategist you want trump in the general and then i don't i'm i mean indictments are political all of this is obviously political but then indicting him to try to make him more popular in the primary would be a decent Democratic strategy. I think that's true.

Oh, you make him more popular in the primary than in the general? You make it so he can't, that he has to step out? You want him in the general because theoretically DeSantis does better against Biden. But also I'm thinking if you're indicted, it doesn't play as well to a general audience as it would to a primary audience. Well, the vibe I get is that he they want to make it so that donald trump cannot run for president again which is going to inflame so many millions and tens of millions of people why on hell's green earth would they do that i mean maybe they really believe that donald trump would win this one person has that authority to pardon

him joe biden right now what if, you know, just be a nice guy. Of course, man. Superman. Yeah. I want to see some Biden Superman memes if that happens. But that's, you know, that'd be an awesome coming together moment. If Trump was indicted for something. And then, you know, Biden just, you know, told him, hey, it's okay.

Because if you're indicted for seven crimes by the feds, this is hard. This is really hard to get out of. Yeah. Because then Biden to be like make america great again to trump and trump's like i will let's put this partisanship behind us we don't need to indict trump let's just drop it now let's move forward but the thing is look look it's almost not partisanship because there are a lot of republicans they would never do this to we we have but look what's happening right now we have news joe biden was allegedly paid five million dollars as part of the burisma bribery scheme and we just keep going back to

trump yeah i don't know i don't know if that was the right play by trump to be posting about this because we would be just going heavy into hunter biden the crack the diary all of this stuff instead it's like yes joe biden did this thing and anyway's Trump. He fundraised so much after the first indictment. I'm sure he's going to raise a ton of money after the second indictment, too. But so so this is an interesting point you're making, because I've said in the past, I think it's very possible that the left wing establishment is trying to engage in another attempt at the Pied Piper strategy. They want him to try to run for president or not just try, but for him to get the nomination because they think he'll lose a general election. But I've heard other people who believe that Trump would lose the general election kind of make the opposite argument to the one you're making. So I was having a conversation with Will Chamberlain a couple of months ago on my podcast.

And this was right when the documents being found at Joe Biden's house was a news story. And I asked him, why do you think that they would be leaking this now? And his response was basically, I think the reason they're leaking this now is because they don't want to prosecute Trump because that might prevent him from running and they want him to run. So I think prosecuting him or not prosecuting him could be taken as the Democrats wanting him to be able to run in 2024 so it's tough to say he can run either way but i think what they want to make sure is he is hindered from campaigning but they gotta know i mean maybe they really don't know how good yo this is for his publicity what what what if what if joe biden gets indicted because of this story you know the other story that we were talking about oh yeah

the five million that he received, allegedly. Everyone who runs just gets indicted. And then their VP is getting indicted to a smaller jail. No one knows what to do to win. So it's just different law enforcement agencies indicting each other. That's your campaign now. Local sheriff is just like, oh, Joe Biden once was speeding in my neighborhood. It's like, well, I guess he's got to come to court and can't campaign anymore.

We haven't really read into this story much. Do you know what this alleged payment was for exactly? To get the prosecutor fired. Yeah, we did read it. I guess we did. It was just straightforward. Like, hey, here, get this guy fired. Burisma was being investigated by the prosecutor.

There were a dozen or more investigations. And then Joe Biden swoops in and gets the guy fired. And then the investigation stops. Did they send it to like a family trust or something? I don't know. A Biden family trust. I mean, we saw those saw those emails we know about 10 for the big guy we know that this is what they've been doing let me just add these layers and come bring these stories together for you joe by joe biden is is is the president right now it is his department

of justice going after donald trump donald trump said can you please look into this so they impeach him then joe biden becomes president and now is going after trump presumably because he's the only one who knows not literally but he's going after the guy that tried to take him down and if donald trump gets elected you know joe biden's in serious trouble and his family is too so biden's probably like screw it burn it all down but i i mean this is what's what really tricks me out man is that these people would put selfish needs and wants and desires ahead of the good of of humanity that's why they're in politics so we we uh donald trump posted a video uh video response we're going to play this video for you right now we have this from truth social he says

i'm an innocent man the The Biden administration is totally corrupt. This election is his election interference and a continuation of the greatest witch hunt of all time. Make America great again. Let's let's play the video. We're waiting. I got it. I got it. Just got to look at him.

Get some lighting on your face, Don. And yet they go. Wait. Very sadly, we're a nation in decline. And yet they go after a popular president, a president that got more votes than any sitting president in the history of our country by far, and did much better the second time in the election than the first, and they go after him on a boxers hoax, just like the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax, and all of the others. This has been going on for seven years. They can't stop because it's election interference at the highest level. There's never been anything like what's happened. I'm an innocent man. I'm an innocent person. They had the Mueller hoax, the Mueller report, and that came out. No collusion after two and a half years.

That was set up by Hillary Clinton and Democrats. But this is what they do. This is what they do so well. If they would devote their energies to honesty and integrity, it would be a lot better for our country. They could do a lot better. They could do a lot of great things. But when you look at what's happened to our country in the last three years, we were energy independent. We had a strong military that wasn't woke.

We were doing so well. We were respected all over the world. Got the biggest tax cuts in history, biggest regulation cuts in history. And what do you do? You have a president where an election was taken, got more votes than any sitting president in history by far, never anything even close. And they come after me because now we're leading in the polls again by a lot against Biden and against the Republicans by a lot. But we're leading against Biden by a lot, a tremendous amount. And we went up to a level that they figured the way they're going to stop us is by using what's called warfare. And that's what

it is. This is warfare for the law. And we can't let it happen. We can't let it happen. Our country is going to hell. And they come after Donald Trump, weaponizing the Justice Department, weaponizing the FBI. We can't let this continue to go on because it's ripping our country to shreds. We have such big problems, and this shouldn't be one of them. It's a hoax. The whole thing is a hoax, just like Russia, Russia, Russia, just like the fake dossier was a hoax.

You saw the Durham report. You saw the Mueller report. It was all a big hoax. You had two impeachments and they lost and we won and we had tremendous support. But that was a hoax and a scam. And now they're doing it again. It's just a continuation, seven years, even after I'm out. But it's called election interference. They're trying to destroy your reputation so they can win an election. That's just as bad as doing any of the other things that have been done over the last number of years and especially during the 2020 election. So I just want to tell you, I'm an innocent man.

I did nothing wrong. And we will fight this out, just like we've been fighting for seven years. It would be wonderful if we could devote our full time to making America great again. And that's exactly what we did. But now, again, our country is in decline. We're a failing nation.

And this is what they do. I'm an innocent man. We will prove that again. Seven years of proving it and here we go again. Very unfair, but that's the way it is. I just want to thank everybody. We are doing something very special for our country. We're putting America first. I always put America first. And that's why we were in a position. Unfortunately, that position is no longer valid because they've done such a poor job. But we're in a position where we're going to make America great again. I'm innocent, and we will prove that very, very soundly and hopefully very quickly. Thank you very much. I think he said, I'm innocent like eight times. Yeah, that would make,

if someone cut that up and made an auto-tune of a song called I'm an Innocent Man, that would be so badass. That actually would be. And he is innocent. Until proven guilty, he's innocent. I think he's just generally innocent because I don't believe anything they're living against him. Yeah, exactly. Mr. Weiss, you're a crisis

guy, right? So what's going on here? A lot of times I have this scenario with clients and their lawyers always say, don't speak, don't speak. And I say, don't listen to lawyers. They're just going to hold you back. It's very important that President Trump spoke right now. 50, 60 million people want to hear from him. He showed strength.

He showed confidence. He showed that he's still in high spirits because most, probably most of his attorneys say, don't say anything. Don't go out there. Keep it quiet. You might slip. You might say something to Trump. You never know.

But it's very important, I think, tonight that he spoke out. And I would have gave him the advice, speak out. What if, like, he posted a video and he was crying? That would be so awesome. Like behind a bed sheet or something like Chris Crocker. He's just a human. What kind of human goes through this? It Crocker. He's just a human. What kind of human goes through this? It's unbelievable. It's serious.

Seven years of torture. And he's still trying to run. But Trump's the kind of guy I imagine when the camera goes off, he starts like punching the wall. You think so? Yeah. I don't think he's the kind of person who's like, I can't believe there's doing this to me.

Like, where would they step? He's the kind of guy who's like, oh, I will destroy them. Build me something great so I can destroy it. Build me another one. I bet he's like raising his voice. I bet he's going to his lawyers. Why isn't anything getting done? How is this still happening?

I want lawyers. Yeah, he looked like he was freaking out. I was there the night he got indicted from the city district attorney. And he flew right in and did a big speech at Mar-a-Lago. We went upstairs afterwards. And he's DJing the whole night, 2 in the morning. What? Like on the record?

He's DJing? He takes his iPad. He takes the iPad when he's there. And he becomes the DJ. That's awesome. He plays the tunes. Are you serious? He's just picking music?

That night, yeah. He goes from Sinatra to Elton John. I'd rather imagine it with the one headphones. You ruined that by giving more details. I was hoping it was like a cartoon. He just got indicted. What was he going to do? And he's playing tunes at 2 in the morning and having a great time.

I said, unbelievable. I think he's a DJ. He's getting indicted. This is the coolest president we ever had. That's not even a question. He's getting indicted. He's probably got a lot of street cred. He's like getting indicted. Is that cool as president we ever had? It's not even a question. He's probably got a lot of street cred. Trouble with the law.

Yeah. We did a cartoon about that a little while ago and now it's happening again. It's like, I don't know why I bother to keep making these every week when the news is just reruns now. Yeah. One of my favorite lines from him that he says constantly, and he said it a couple of times in this speech is that he received the most votes of any sitting president specifically because biden

wasn't a sitting president obviously at the time but he keeps saying that the most votes of any sitting president he's not sitting right now quite frankly he's laying he's laying down you know he's not awake it's just like a funny cop-out when he's not the president right now and he just keeps saying it's true though it is true from a sitting president yeah but and i didn't still got more votes but his point is no other, what is it? No other sitting president received more votes and lost. Sure, but we're a growing population with more voter participation every four years. So it's like, it's an easy start to Nipah.

Well, I think we've never had more money in our economy than we do right now. But COVID played a major role in why this didn't look the same way as it did because they basically just locked everybody in boxes and then tortured them for a year. And then mail-in ballots, that played a huge role, which DeSantis said he wants to start doing aggressively and we'll see if Trump follows up

with a similar strategy. Do you guys think that... I think he will. Don Jr. was talking about it. I mean, he doesn't speak for Trump. I just think like the fabric of this nation has been ripped to shreds. Oh, yeah. And about it i just i just think like the the fabric of this nation has been ripped to shreds oh yeah and now it's just you know before it was things were heating up

now at the highest level like the fact that the biden doj is just like well i can't beat him so let's lock him in jail but like okay ripping the fabric apart if the fabric is being used to suffocate your friend and you rip the fabric to shreds and save your friend's life that maybe that fabric needed to be ripped apart anyway so like are we better off or worse off since trump became president not hillary but that that doesn't quite make sense right the the fabric of this country is what stops the people from from fighting each other in the streets the fabric of this country is the basic rule set of look we're not going to indict our political rival we're going to let people vote about these things.

We're not going to make up BS charges right now in the public sphere. We know for a fact Joe Biden is corrupt. Politico wrote about this years ago. Biden Inc. We know that his family's fortunes have tracked his career in federal government. We now have another story basically confirming he was getting bribed to fire the prosecutor. Joe Biden publicly admitted he went to the president of Ukraine and said, fire the prosecutor or I will illegally withhold loan guarantees. He just come out and said it and they don't do anything about it.

If the people of this country know for a fact that the government has been weaponized against one half of the population, Like we are dangerously close to whatever you want to call it. Oh boy. The metaphor you were looking for Ian was like, um, a fracture doesn't heal fully, but you need to break the arm completely for it to heal fully. Not that I agree with, with that's what should happen.

If your bone is fractured, then it doesn't heal completely. But if it breaks completely, then it does properly heal. That's a bad metaphor for what i think should happen in the nation but i think that's a cleaner metaphor for what you were looking for a clean break you know biden is so fascinating to me he's this uh he's like for as much as people say this about trump biden is this character study in the hubris of man because he's so late in his life and he's putting such little emphasis on his soul and so much emphasis on money and being corrupt in order to enrich himself and his family first

catholic about joe biden he's well firstly kennedy if we're including fake catholics kennedy was a fake catholic president before joe biden um no i think kennedy was actually practicing but we know behind the scenes. He was doing Marilyn Monroe, wasn't he? Yeah, we know there was some stuff going on there that would throw him outside of like,

you know, he was not practicing. Isn't Biden Irish too? My point is, yeah, no, I know, you can't trust those guys. That's my whole argument. That's the whole point.

But Joe Biden, I mean, Catholics in politics are- No Irish flag behind you tonight. I know. What are you talking about? When was there ever one? You know, the Catholics don't need to get into politics because the Vatican has so much power.

I don't know about that, dude. They don't step down into the politics realm. They already... Is that how you feel in America? It's kind of a joke. No, I know. But I do think religious institutions may have more influence and power over Earth than sitting governments.

I mean, but... Well, that's the thing. You know, I'm Catholic. I love my church. But, you know, there are obviously people in the Catholic church i've been very critical of and people in the hierarchy and uh i think it was chester to who said this but one of the reasons i believe is the true church is because i don't know how an organization can spend so much time being corrupt and still exist it's been like 2 000 years with these horrible recent we're still here who's gonna have faith in the justice

system anymore after this oh no but after this after january such a joke they got to do something good i mean for me to regain faith in them they'd have to do something we have videos of hunter biden that you can't show even an 18 year old agreed but you know what you know what i'll say is that at this point we've become so tribal that credibility is irrelevant right people are going to side with their team even even if they know they're lying. Let's talk dirty politics. We have this story from TimCast.com. DeSantis' campaign uses AI-generated deepfake images of Trump embracing Fauci in New York. Is he kissing him?

Yes, he is. Trump is hugging and kissing. And I also want to point out, look at Trump's see his hand right here? Look at Trump's seven-foot-long arm. He's embracing fauci and his arm goes all the way around fauci like just think about how long his left arm is and how he's holding fauci and then how his other arm wraps all the way around yeah it's clearly a deep

fake and so this is this is the desantis war room they ran an ad says donald trump became a household name by firing countless people on television but when it it came to Fauci, in the video, they run this image. It says, real life Trump. And the top left, the bottom middle, and bottom right are AI-generated images of Trump hugging and kissing Dr. Fauci. Wow. Now, look. People thought this was real.

This video, I believe, it's actually from June 5th. I think the original post was actually a few days before, what is it from june 5th i think the original post is actually a few a few days before but let's just say june 5th because that's the date listed on twitter nobody noticed anything until today i saw people posting saying hey wait a minute the dissenters campaign generated fake images to smear donald trump as favoring dr fauci you don't need to smear trump he wouldn't fire the guy he says he couldn't schedule f that i understand but he very much let dr fauci do his thing during covid the fact that they went this far they opened the gates yo this is look we're talking about indictments we're talking about the doj welcome to modern politics they're going to start generating fake ai images of you doing

something to smear you and this is a serious ad meant to make people believe Donald Trump actually was good friends with Fauci. Oh, my gosh. They should have a disclaimer that that's fake because a cartoon you would know. No, they're defending it. They're doubling down. All the DeSantis supporters are doubling down, hardcore saying we are allowed to do this because Donald Trump once posted a picture of Ron DeSantis riding a rhinoceros.

Which everyone thought was real, course at the time and yes people didn't want to vote for the santas because of the animal cruelty uh here's a picture of ron on a rhinoceros and and the response i got was hey tim what dis because i said the the intentional act of making a fake image, putting it in a collage to trick people into thinking that Trump was what liked Dr. Fauci is one million times different from Trump insulting Ron DeSantis. Also, yeah, no. And there's context to those photographs, too, which you mentioned. It's in a collage of other photographs, but they're talking about Trump being too soft on Fauci. And it's a real life Trump on it. And Trump was not making any specific claim about, firstly, it's poorly Photoshopped.

It's obviously a joke. But secondly, Trump was not making like a claim about DeSantis riding rhinos. So everybody responded to me saying, why aren't you disavowing Donald Trump for his use of deep fakes? And I said, what use? And they post that. to me saying why aren't you disavowing donald trump for his use of deep fakes and i said what use and they post that and i'm like that's a photoshop of ron on a rhinoceros are you joking

and you know it's fake he has a suit on well right they're like these deep fakes putin riding a bear and they said they said donald trump made a fake posted a fake ai twitter space and i said you mean with the devil and Hitler? So here's what I tweeted. I said, you know what? They're all mad. I say, I hereby disavow Trump for posting a video of the devil and Hitler in a chat room making fun of DeSantis. Many DeSantis supporters thought it was real

and it was wrong for Trump to post it. Then, when this guy tweets at me, what about this picture? And it's Trump writing, Ron DeSantis writing a rhinoceros. I said, I once again, I hereby once again disavowed Donald J. Trump. He posted a picture of Ron DeSantis riding a rhinoceros, and many DeSantis supporters thought it was real.

It was wrong of Trump to mislead these people in this way, and Trump must apologize for confusing DeSantis supporters with this image, and the dude deleted it. The argument that you can make fake news fake images to trick people is in no way the same as trump being a dick and then people are like how come what about alex brucewitz he posts memes yes there there was an image of george soros in the background somewhere and then he posted something this is another thing they're criticizing him for where he said apparently this wasn't

George Soros, but I have to wonder. And it's like, OK. And then other people, random people online who are not Donald Trump and associated with his campaign posted photoshopped images of like Christina Pichot and other people in the DeSantis camp. There is a big difference between Ron DeSantis's official campaign, his staff, producing fake images to trick people into thinking Trump did a thing he did not do, and Trump posting a picture of Ron on a rhinoceros. But I'm sorry, I guess if they really believe that happened, they were like,

Ron never rode a rhinoceros. Trump's lying. Here's the thing. I'm a highly trained skeptic. So when I saw that picture of Ron on a rhinoceros, I didn't think it was real, but I thought, man, this deepfake technology is getting way too convincing getting convincing that's right this is clearly ron desantis on a rhino i'm sorry like dude you can by all means criticize any trump supporter for posting fake information 100 but the idea that because some people associated with trump posted questionable things they found on the internet justifies the intentional act of posting deep fakes to lie about Donald Trump. This is it's laughably absurd. Sorry. Have a nice day.

I was saying before that I was like, you know, I really like DeSantis. He does great in Florida. He's given us everything he's wanted. His charisma is not there. I'm leaning towards Trump simply because Trump's likely to fire all these people. Now, there is absolutely no way I will support Ron DeSantis unless he comes out explicitly disavowing the use of deep fakes to manipulate people. I think that probably these strategists, he has all this money sense of how do we go? Let's keep on this Fauci crusade that he was so close to Fauci wouldn't fire him. And maybe the pictures didn't have that hug. So let's just shove in the hug, right? Let's just add these two extra pictures. It will really push the envelope and show how close they

were and people won't pick up on it that's fake but you know not just a hug a kiss like you know they could have just settled for a hug they got one where he's smooching right on the nose there they wrote real life trump they show a bunch of real clips of trump saying why he wouldn't fire fauci legitimate criticism and then it says real life trump and it shows him hugging and kissing look at this to the left the white house the the room doesn't even make sense but the white house emblem it says mehap whems because ai can't make language they could have at least photoshopped so what was their argument that the real life was only written on the pictures that were actually literally real, so

they weren't trying to... No, no, no. That's what they're saying. None of this was on it. I don't believe it. Yes, it is. Oh, those were in the ad? Yes. I'll play the ad for you. I'll pull it up. These are in the ad. Like... Let's play the ad. Here you go.

You're fired. You're all fired. All four are fired. You're fired. I didn't do what you did. You're fired. The day I walk in, I hear I'm going to fire him. I'm not firing him. I think he's a wonderful guy. Should you have fired Fauci?

So a lot of people ask me that question, and I did it right. Because if you do fire him, you're going to have a fire someone on the left again. Why did you feel unable to fire Fauci? Personally, you're not allowed to. Every time he goes on television, there's always a bomb. But there's a bigger bomb if you fire him. Frankly, you can't win that one. If I would have done it, I would have taken heat.

All right, I'm going to say when it said real life Trump on a picture of him hugging Fauci that isn't real, Trump has grounds to sue. Yes. Yeah, well, absolutely. Look look at this it's in the video and there's uh uh we've got bird watch or whatever it's called community notes at at 25 seconds in this video a collage of photos of president trump hugging anthony fauci appear these pictures are not real they're at ai generated images and it says real life trump i think that while quoting trump fake fake fake the santaantis campaign should get ahead of this and be like, these were deep fakes before they get sued into oblivion.

Oh, dude, there's no debate anymore. You're right. You're right. There's no debate. Any any now debate Ronda Santis tries to have with Trump. Trump wins instantly. He's going to say that Ron is going to be like Donald Trump wouldn't fire Dr. Fauci. And Trump's going to be like fake news.

He made fake photos and ran those. I can hear it is. And said they were real. And that's that they were real. That undermines. And I've been very clear about where I stand on Trump versus DeSantis. But I will say that undermines one of the good points that DeSantis actually does have about Trump. That undermines one of the good arguments against Trump, even though I support him,

to say, yeah, he didn't fire Fauci. That was a serious flaw. He should have is something that is credible and it's powerful. And to completely undermine that by having a hand-generated picture of him kissing Fauci on the nose while he hugs him just totally destroys it. Hey, Weiss, what would your crisis response team be to something like this? Double down or what? To the Sant santas how should his response be probably should disavow or if he fired somebody that created this then it would he's got to fire the top blame somebody else find a subordinate say

this was their idea i didn't put up fake photos in an ad it's not just putting up a meme on twitter it's different right you had to go through a whole process let's make the ad let's make a scoop what do you put here put the photo and somebody said let's put two fake photos of trump three and desantis has to know about that they had to bring him the ad at the end yeah what i noticed didn't happen it's possible that santas didn't go i'm ron desantis and i approve this message they used to have to do that or would do that in commercials it's possible even if rack but even no this is desantis worm it's this message. They used to have to do that or would do that in commercials. It's possible. Could be a hack. Could be a hack? No, this is DeSantis worm.

It was according to multiple reports, Christina Pasha, who is employed directly by DeSantis, made this account. I don't know who made the video, but it's possible DeSantis saw the video and it's a 40 second video and he looks at it and he's like, it's great, run it. Not realizing they put deep fakes in it. Yeah. But I think if they try and pull a we didn't know. And so we're going to hire John Herbowitz. He was the one who did it.

I will not be satisfied. I don't know who that is. You can't come to me and say underling is at fault. Not sorry. Look, man, we knew this was coming. We've warned about it. It's one thing. And it's bad enough that they cut Trump out of context and lie about him.

It is also bad enough that there are people who support Trump that make fake things, and then they get shared by people in the Trump camp, in the Trump's circle and things like that. But to intentionally run an ad with fake images to smear your political opponent is crossing the line directly, and it opens the door to a very dark future. That's why it's like, hey, we knew someone was going to do it. Ron DeSantis said he was going to lead out. But man, it says that this is real.

It says real life Trump with a picture of him that is not real life Trump. So good God, what did you guys do? This really opens up the floodgates for RFK to do it. It's against Biden, right? We were talking about this before the show and i was just saying i can't imagine trump's gonna run ads trump is going to make an ad and it's gonna be it's gonna be like some woman it's gonna packs are gonna do this so you're gonna hear a woman go ron desantis's campaign is making fake images of trump to smear

him don't trust dishonest ron they're going to be running that like crazy. It'll be like an image of a serpent with Ron's head on it and stuff like that. All these wild deep things. It's going to say real life Ron on the picture of the serpent. Real life Ron. That should be his nickname for Ron. But anything now that Ron DeSantis says, Trump can easily be like,

are you going to believe him? The guy who makes fake images to win arguments? I don't want to insult Ron, but I get the vibe that he's just a guy that was in the right place at the right time. That he's not really special. He's not really super smart. He doesn't have the best people around him. And now they want him in the public because they don't like Donald Trump. So anyone will do this guy's establishment.

Let's just get him up there. He'll be fine. I disagree. I think that's a little harsh so i um again i i prefer trump as of now but also um desantis is somebody who did stand up to the covid regime and the lockdown regime and he pushed back against it and he did stand up to the meeting i do think he's very intelligent i wouldn't go as far as to say he's just like a mediocre politician like the rest of them i think he's a step above i i do too i will vote with covid was was

groundbreaking yeah almost you could argue that it saved the republic in a way or was a it was an it was an indication of how to save a republic i i will not i won't i won't support the sanders at all i was unless he unless he disavows and we see some real terminations over this it's well it's serious right script and starts talking like a real man for one campaign choosing to focus on um fauci specifically is a genius move it is such a potent attack especially because there are so many trump supporters who do have so many questions about operation warp speed and fauci but they just overplayed their hand for no good reason this was like a very stupid misplay you didn't have to do it trump was already praising operation warp speed still he didn't fire fauci for whatever reason and that's a whole different conversation and they could have

kept hitting him on this but such an unforced error is so stupid and the response from de santis's hardcore fans is it's almost as if they're actually leftists or trump supporters trying to sabotage ron de santantis that you you can't come out and be like but but trump posted ron on a rhinoceros if if that's your argument you're just trying to make desantis supporters look really really dumb like there's no argument yeah that literally the sentence came should come out and be like these got mixed in we like they could say we didn't make these we saw them we put it in the ad it's our mistake we didn't check we disavow we apologize it'll never happen the ad it's our mistake we didn't check we

disavow we apologize it'll never happen again if it's true i don't want them lying to people no i'm saying that's their best out in my opinion but i or it could be like the guy that created this it was an oversight on my part i didn't realize the amount of damage it could do to the political process and he's fired and i'm not going to ever do this again we should say if a deep fake is a you don't know the person they're firing actually did it. True. That's what I want to happen. They're going to say some random name. They're going to say, you know, Ian Coghlan is the guy who did it, so he's fired. And then Ian Coghlan's going to be like, I just work in the mailroom.

And it doesn't matter. They stick a name to it and they say, we're good. Well, I want them to be honest about it. I want them to honestly take the person to task that created this and thought it was a good idea. In public. take the person to task that created this and thought it was a good idea we are we are we are a next year deep fake technology will be 100 fold better than this i'm concerned what's going to happen is only after the ashes do people realize we need to legislate this went unnoticed for three days i believe i believe it was posted june 5th yep at 3 p.m so this went unnoticed for three

days and it could have easily continue to have gone unnoticed and i think that just speaks to the future of what we are going to see with much more compelling ai we didn't catch this odd like tim said like oh the wording was off if somebody kept like took a good eye to this they would have been able to spot it but three days there's going to be a ton of stuff that a lot of people miss and a lot of articles are probably written about it smaller ones being like de santis hits trump on on fauci and then they did not realize yep i mean it really is going to get to a point where we look back and we say anything that was published before 2023 as far as photography goes can be inspected to see if it's photoshopped or not and so we can trust that um or i'm not gonna be able to point before i think even a point before 2023 because

maybe there are people who had this technology before it became widely available uh and we're using it and we'll find out about that at some point who knows but i i think that's gonna we are gonna get to a point where we'll kind of only be able to verify things that i would i was so wrong when i went on rogan and he asked me about deepfake technology and i said no i'm not super concerned because people have trust and he asked me if i thought it was going to get bad and i said i didn't think so and now that it's all happening it's just like it is going to be worse than any anyone realizes what what's going to happen is we're going to get to a point where what they're going to say is any image generated after 2023 is not real and you're going to be like well clearly some of them are real like yes but they

can never be they're no longer admissible in court like one of the big thing that's going to happen i have already witnessed this courts have admitted fake ai generated images we saw it with kyle rittenhouse but i can tell you about other court cases definitively that have said they absolutely will admit deep fake videos and it is the responsibility of of the person disputing it to prove it's not real that's what the courts are saying right now man people put a lot of faith in the intelligence of uh the authority and not necessarily intelligent people well that's gonna be wild the idea that the burden has to be on you to prove these things wrong we were talking about this with another guest who suggested there's gonna have to be an entire new field of forensics that builds up to dispel these things.

But I think in the long run, well, I mean, yeah, but that's the point I'm making is I think in the long run, it might become impossible. The technology will get so good that you can't investigate these things. It's impossible now. The remedy for someone introducing deep fakes to court is for you to bring an expert in so what happens is let's say you have an actual you have actual video evidence of uh donald trump doing a backflip and you're in court you say your honor trump did the backflip here's the video and trump goes it's not real it's a fake video and then trump's team just goes to a expert and says is it real and they go yeah that's real i said okay uh next expert is that real yeah that's real next expert is that real how much you're gonna pay me we what's your rate five thousand

dollars a day we'll pay you that it's fake come on down to chinatown they bring him into the courtroom and then he says it's fake what's extra unnerving to this too is that it'll bring all photos and videos even of the past into question yep It's and then there's going to be revisionist history for everything. And it's going to be very bad. This is the door right now. Images of Donald Trump hugging Dr. Fauci. And if you take a look at them, if they only used the one on the bottom right, that they would have gotten away with it.

The one in the middle and the bottom where Trump has his arms around him and he's holding his fist is very strange. The top left with meh-heh-hap-whems in the White, in the bottom, where Trump has his arms around him and he's holding his fist is very strange. The top left with meh-heh-hap-whems in the White House emblem, clearly fake. The one in the bottom right, you can't really tell except for the textures. And someone might say, no, that's real. They could argue that. They made the mistake of using three, with one being discernibly fake, which then provides evidence the other ones are likely fake, too.

Honestly, though, man, from a distance, I'm sitting at, they all look real. This all looks real to me from where I'm at. Now, imagine you're in an airport, and this ad runs on the TV, or a news outlet covers the ad and says, take a look at this ad run by the DeSantis campaign. And then you see, on a grainy television far away, Trump hugging DeSantis. That's the point. Hugging DeSantis? Now we're talking.

Hugging Fauci. Hugging DeSantis. DeSantis's That's the point. Hugging DeSantis? Now we're talking. Hugging Fauci. Hugging DeSantis. DeSantis's campaign releases an ad. Forgiveness. Donald Trump endorses us. He wants you to vote for us instead. I would kiss him on the nose. They put Trump's voice in the AI generator.

That could be. Are you allowed to make claims about what other people said and did that they didn't do? That's where we're going. But it's been two years. I don't get. Do they have some kind of polling? We don't have these these so he gave him another hug is it really gonna boost the santas well i and not trump i mean like a quarter like quarter to a third of trump's base those diehards absolutely hate the vaccine stuff and hate the fauci stuff hate all the lockdown

operation warp speed think all that stuff is super toxic And I do think it was a potent message. The more he brought it up. But now overplaying his hand kind of ruins it. Exactly. Like when, you know, he can bring this up and he can say, you didn't fire Fauci. You pushed the vaccines. Oh, did I kiss him on the nose, Ron? Really?

Did I give him a big bear hug and kiss him on the nose? This man's ridiculous. Right. Just easy to dismiss. Why exaggerate if the truth is already bad enough even focus on operation warp speed because a lot of trump supporters are really against that but like to do something so stupid again that's why i said the not intelligent vibe i get from him or that he's surrounding himself with really poorly educated like people that just don't get it because

why would you do that why would you sabotage yourself when your enemy is making a mistake it's like the oldest art of war obvious someone just pointed something out the the bottom image with trump hugging fauci is actually look it's a photoshop from when he hugged the flag so you know you know that you remember the picture of trump hugging the flag yeah it does look like that i'm not 100 sure about that's kind of how i think ai also takes things yeah Yeah. Yep. So where this goes, we are going to video and photos. And what can you do about it? I know.

That's why I think it's so important to call this out and say no to it. Because if, and this is why I'm like, the DeSantis supporters are doing everything in their power to hurt Ron DeSantis. Because there's no excuse for making a fake, The DeSantis supporters are doing everything in their power to hurt Ron DeSantis because there's no excuse for making a fake, using fake images to smear a political opponent

right now. We know how dangerous the AI stuff is going to be. We need to put a hard line in the sand right now and say, we will not tolerate this in any capacity. And the DeSantis supporters are like, no, it's fine. And you know, it's actually because Trump posted these funny images. No, this is okay. I could also see this technology increasing the demand for a surveillance state because people

could say things like well look if you have the gps chip on your phone tracking you at all time you can actually confirm where you were at any given date and time and so you could debunk certain deep fakes with that information uh more like more more more well i wonder accountability well not so much that as much as i'm saying like i think because of uh the deepfake technology people who are very concerned about being deepfaked could turn to other methods of documenting their life that we currently consider invasive like having your smartphone track you everywhere you are all the time and then deliver the data to you or to some larger database that could confirm that you really were there something like that better way would be to put the onus of proof on the person that's offering the image

or the video i think the solution to this is going to be a ton more media literacy in the public and you will not be you're gonna have to not believe literally a single thing, a video or picture that you see on the Internet and you will have to question it. I am not 100 percent sure this is real. And it's sad because the media literacy in our public is already very low. Twitter is not helping, but it's going to be crucial moving forward as we're seeing AI and disinformation and misinformation in the flesh actually exists. Well, you got to wonder if, know five ten years from now people see these things and he said do you see the footage of him doing that well yeah that's just a video you know it's just video footage whatever i think that's easily faked i think we're going back to

uh the dark ages in a sense there was a time period where we did not know what was going on 100 200 years ago you're living on a farm and then the newspaper man comes to town and you go oh but the newspaper students and then they all get comes to town and you go oh but the newspaper students and then they all get together and then he's like i got the paper here's what's happening in new york and you're like wow and that was a month ago it's funny like a month ago a ship came and it carried a bunch of ivory and they're like they called it the dark ages but it was really like the the blind age is like too much light will blind you and you may as well be dark because you can't see anything that's a very good way of putting it that's exactly what yeah exactly

it we're entering a period where it's, we can call it the light ages, where there's so much information, we're blinded by it and we can't see what's going on. Soon enough, the only place you'll be able to know things are real from

is TimCast News. That's right. That's the only way. But you're a robot. No, you don't want to say we can't be deep faked. It's not possible. Anything you see of us is real.

Seamus is actually not a real person. I'm not even real. I'm a computer algorithm. That's why his posture is so good. I remember you being a potato. That's extremely offensive. Firstly, you're going to hear from my lawyer. The reason he was off the show for so long

was because the computer that generates his voice and image is broken. It broke down, yeah. I accidentally poured some Coca-Cola on it. It's powered by a potato i feel like asking people not to use this technology is like asking people not to use the newest weapon that was developed exactly and it's not who the hell like maybe you can get a non-proliferation treaty for all the weaker countries around earth but the big superpowers are definitely going to weaponize technology's inevitable you can't stop it well yeah because i i remember there

was uh some talk of, I think Elon Musk was talking about this a few months ago, a bunch of people signing an agreement to stop or slow down the development of AI. Okay, well, let's see if China agrees to that. Let's see if Russia agrees to that. Let's see if any other technological power is willing to hold off on the development of this unbelievably profitable and powerful technology. Yeah, let's see if OpenAI agrees to it.

A decade ago, we were having the same conversation about genetic engineering and how we should stop researching it. But nobody across the world was going to get on board with that. And I don't believe the solution is trying to stop the advancement of the technology. You think it's just use it better than anyone else?

Well, if we stop doing it, China's not going to stop. So we need to figure out the correct way to use it. And like in the genetic engineering conversation is like finding the right way to attack and defend against diseases that are potentially made in the future. Yeah, like gain of function. Look where genetic engineering got us. I mean, I know that's a whole big. Fauci, I can't believe Trump didn't fire him. I hear you.

Turn it around you snake Operation Warp Speed no I look I agree with you on both of those things when you guys are doing publicity

Adam do you do like like ethics are they involved do you have to account for ethics or do you just do whatever you gotta do to get it done

like is it about winning or is it about doing what's right like how do you how do you play I mean you always gotta do what's right? Like, how do you play? I mean, you always got to do what's right.

But there's, you know, you can play the little publicity stunts here and there that makes sense. But you got to play by the rules, right? I would have said, don't do this. It's a fake. You can't just put out fake photos like that. That's when you're running for president of the United States. And you're the second, you know, right behind Trump, the runner up. It's risk versus reward. You know, you're betting second you know the right behind trump the runner-up it's it's risk versus reward you know you're you're you're betting on the loser horse it's like we're gonna we're gonna

make this thing and what we can gain from it is minimal and what we can lose from it is everything well and you know you made the point that some of these images are fake but we wouldn't be able to tell it would have been much more difficult to tell at the very least if we didn't have the picture with lettering behind it that was so over the top with him smooching Fauci. And you gotta wonder, are there other instances of deepfakes being out there in political campaigns being used that we just haven't picked up on because they weren't as ridiculous? You guys think DeSantis signed off

on this or just somebody? I think it went under the radar. I think he signed off on it. But like, he's sitting in his office, typing on a computer, and they pull up an iPad, and they hold it up to him and say, here's the ad.

And he's sitting there, and he watches, and he goes, it's great, run it. And then anyway, guys, what we're talking about. So the buck stops with him, definitely. But I don't think he knew they ran deepfake images.

I'm saying if he approved of it, he looked at it, didn't realize what it was, and said, looks good. The DeSantis campaign is 100% correct to criticize Trump on Fauci and Birx. This ruined it for them. Literally this morning, I'm like, DeSantis has given us everything we've asked for in Florida. He's been leading so well. He does lack charisma, but Trump really does have a weakness when it comes to Fauci,

Dr. Birx and the COVID response. And that's where they can go after him and then all of a sudden i see this this news and i'm like holy crap did they really screw this one up and then instead of being like we disavow we apologize we don't know how this got out they the the supporters all run out full speed and say we are allowed to do it and i'm like okay desantis's supporters are some of the nastiest people online nasty Nasty. Trump's got nasty people, don't get me wrong. But the fact that they will defend anything. And you've got people tweeting at me being like, why aren't you criticizing Trump?

And I'm like, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that because Trump was a dick, that means DeSantis is allowed to do things that are wrong. And that's the best they could offer. Well, what about Trump? What about him? Are you going to say that DeSantis can do this because Trump's bad too great i'll vote for the libertarian party i don't need either of them that's where we're going dave smith yeah i went down in 2000 yeah dave smith 2000 november 2020 i had to get the hell out of new york lockdowns you can't go to a restaurant

you can't go to a gym i said i'm getting went down to visit a client he was having a party in his townhouse in miami beach i said, I'm coming here, right? And so DeSantis did a great job for two years. I even went to a fundraiser that Trump did for him. It was about in September of 2020. And then I was trying to be charismatic with DeSantis, but it's very hard. He doesn't know any of the personality Trump has. And it stuck out to me.

I said, I just got down here. I had to get out of New York, and I couldn't get any of the personality trump has and it was stuck out to me i said i just got down here i had to get out of new york and i couldn't get any personality out of him and i was with my dad he's 85 at the time and he says is that your dad trump says that your dad get him over here and i says i'm thinking back i says that's the difference you know trump's personality he knows what's in a room and he can work a room it doesn't matter but desantis i don't think this was his time you really shouldn't have someone uh super chatted us and said that donald trump is actually a dj he's dj trump yeah literally like oh yeah that's kind of funny he's a people

person that's that's a big part of the president too is your people larger than life personality you were at the social media summit yeah the white house two and three years ago yeah something three years ago trump was doing doing a standup routine. Yeah. We're sitting there and I'm like, I have no idea what this is. We're in it. I thought it was going to be like a round table with a small group of people. Yes, I did.

And then we sit down, there's chairs lining up front of a podium and Trump just does standup and we were all laughing our asses off. And I was like, what the? Is this funny? I don't know what's going on, but it's hilarious. I thought we were going to get away with no mudslinging, man. And this is typical Trump because after Trump won remember he said everybody want to come in the garden with me afterwards he just invited and he was doing a presser with uh uh just uh attorney

general bar and then some of the influences got in with cnn and uh a couple of reporters oh that was funny funny yeah the there was like a fight broke out or something, right? I think it was Brian. It's the guy who was with the Playboy White House correspondent. Only under Trump. Oh, it got to do with Gorka. Gorka got in it with the Playboy. I can't remember his name, but it was the Playboy White House correspondent.

Only under Trump that he made all these irrelevant White House correspondents famous. Yeah. Yeah. That they got book deals and everything that's why he they want him back in office that's why they're trying to push these indictments and all that sheamus is waiting patiently to dive behind you and i think something that you hit spot on is about uh the lack of charisma for from de santis so last week um for tim cast news i covered all

of his stops in new hampshire um he kind of gave the same speech four different times, but he really isn't personable, lacks like that natural charisma and really comes off kind of smug and rigid. Or at least that was my impression. I also feel as though he tries to play off as though he's not an elitist, although he still has gone to these prestigious colleges, I believe at least Yale, but maybe also Harvard.

So when Ron comes on the show and it's going to be hot, you better look at me in the eyes and be like, not intelligent, huh? And then look at Tim and be like, so no charisma. You better call us on this stuff because this is what the conversation's about.

If you're really going to be a better president, then we got to air it out. Well, I just, look, man, when I brought up the Jazz Jennings thing, the DeSantis, Pasha, and Redfern started tweeting at me, calling me a grifter and insulting me for simply pointing out that Jazz Jennings lives in Florida and these horrible things are happening.

And I was like, why are you yelling at me? Like, what is with these people? They're very defensive over him. His online team, if you like... He's got to fire them. These are terrible people. They're destroying his campaign. Yeah.

They'll, they'll come off to you after you like dogs. If they perceive an attack like that as an attack, although it wasn't, you know what the best thing they could have done would be literally say nothing. You know, the second best thing they could have done if they had to do something,

say, Tim, we're on it with a winky, winky emoji. And then I would have been like, Oh, look at that. Does hand his campaign knows they're doing something.

And they could have done nothing. They could have just posted that. And it would have been like oh look at that desantis campaign knows they're doing something and they could have done nothing they could have just posted that and it would have been that's the end of it instead they decided to go to war and create a conflict that creates negative attention around desantis and led to the confirmation that jazz jennings received gender surgery in florida under the rule of ron desantis has not run as head as was governor jazz did receive surgery and so they want to play this game like ron desantis has not ron desantis was governor jazz did receive surgery and so they want to play this game like ron doesn't have a time machine well now you open the door and now we know that's that it was under ron so i think well you you were making that point in that everything ron did was was safe was it just in general like did you say that that uh

maybe he was doing things that were like just in line with the acceptable culture war right i don't know if i was making that point hard but i do believe that he's a he's a very play it safe kind of guy which concerns me he'll get co-opted by the bureaucracy already has been like i don't see him being being willing to go off script that's good to get off the script dude i don't want to hear what you wrote down i think he's got to fire these people he's got to he has to fire them because they are really really bad at what they do i think he's trying really hard to beat trump on policy but is forgetting that most people actually do not care much at all about policy that's not what's getting somebody to vote for you or not when he's trying to hit on trump on abortion like seamus doesn't care

seamus still supports trump although i actually that's one of the things i i'm not uh in an entirely committed position i think it depends on what their stances end up being i prefer trump as a candidate uh in a lot of ways but i'm i'm always voting so here's the thing you prefer prefer trump right now although he is more pro-choice than desantis well. Well, if we're talking about who's more likely to win a federal election, I think especially if Trump's position were to change to a more pro-life position,

it wouldn't even be a question for me. But if we're talking about who's more charismatic, who's probably more likely to carry voters, yeah, I think Trump. There was also some talk behind the scenes, and there was a leak from DeSantis' campaign that suggested he might not hold to as strong a pro-life stance. I'm not sure if we can confirm that.

There was a guest who took issue. So maybe that doesn't mean anything. I'm always going to pick the most pro-life candidate. DeSantis is trying to hit him from the right, but most people seem to not even care as they should, or just how politics plays out. Ron's biggest strength is to just say

I'm just like Trump, but I'm calm. Yeah, I mean, all their personalities, policies, ideology, pretty much the same, 90%. It's how did Trump conquer and become the personality? His personality is larger than life. He's funny. He's engaging. He's a New York-style personality.

He's flexible on the issues, though. And he's pragmatic at times. And I think Tim has a great point. Ron should be the calm of Trump. Yep. york style personality on the issues though and you know he's pragmatic at times and and i think tim has a great point that ron should be the comma trump yep you know somewhat like a ronald reagan mode our policies are the same he did a great job but we need to come we need to have a combination at the moment we need to bring in moderates we need to win the middle and that's about ron's best play not to bitter bitter back and forth and that's not the way to do you cannot going to win back and forth with trump there's no way trump's probably one of the least right-wing candidates though in the republic i mean he slayed brilliant he slayed brilliant

candidate gay marriage yeah yeah exactly relatively loose on abortion at this point compared to like compared to desantis agreed among other things so yeah i think no i think there's a lot of positions where trump could and should be better there's absolutely no description that's why desantis is so difficult trying to win on policy you're not going to beat trump on policy by trying to hit him from the right that's been desantis's play here he's thinking of it too much like a politician that's not how trump won trump didn't win based on i want to i want to clarify too like i am not saying the president should be calm i'm saying the point DeSantis has is that he is like Trump, but calm because there are a lot of moderates and independents that think Trump is too over the top.

My personal view, we need Trump to go in like a bull in a china shop and fire all these people. Yeah. And so there have been a number of things like on the abortion messaging where I think Trump has been entirely wrong. I'd like to see him shift there. Absolutely. I do in that sense, very much prefer DeSantis is stance. He's pro-life. And when it comes to the primary, I'm always going to vote for the most pro-life candidate. But part of my critique of DeSantis has also been the fact that he lacks charisma and a lot of diehard supporters get upset with me for saying that, but you're not

helping him or his campaign by not addressing that. So respectfully, if DeSantis is more pro-life than Donald Trump, why don't you support desantis over trump i think well so i think as a candidate desantis is less charismatic i'm not saying that i would definitively support um trump over desantis in the primary without any qualification there i think if trump moved to a more pro-life stance i absolutely would and i also think that if desantis became more charismatic and was more pragmatic candidate on the national stage that would help i think trump blamed the midterm losses from republicans on the abortion and i and i discussed that on my podcast with lila rose i think that's a massive failure on his part

came out saying six weeks trump was still like oh trump said that he called it cruel yeah which i think was horrible messaging and i think is entirely wrong yeah so but it still doesn't get you really doesn't matter to you no i never said that no i never said that i never said it doesn't matter to me i said that desantis needs to work on his charisma i think we're trumped and i would also and this is why i'm saying as of now because i think it's possible trump moves on that issue as you've mentioned is very flexible, and he's been in different positions and adopted different positions over time. I would say that when it comes to DeSantis building up his charisma, making that statement isn't saying that I'm now a diehard Trump supporter who will never like DeSantis.

It's simply saying that I think he needs to fix that problem to be a more palatable candidate. Yeah. That's all. DeSantis will not beat Trump from a policy, even though he may be better on policy. That's not how he's going to beat him. Oh, no, I agree. Well, and this is the thing.

So I was and I was getting into so many arguments with people about this because I was saying DeSantis needs to work up his charisma. He needs to get better at this. And they were saying, oh, like charisma matters. People should vote on policy. Agreed. People should vote on policy. They're probably not going to right never do and so you and so that's my point where i and i said

this so many times i think that um i think that a stronger desantis is better for america overall regardless who ends up getting the nomination regardless of who ends up winning i think it is better for america for both of these men to be as strong as they can be and to be as effective as they can be in one be as effective as they can be in one of the areas where desantis lacks effectiveness is his charisma yeah you need a mattingly you don't need one but you will benefit severely from a charismatic military commander he's the commander of the military if you if the troops believe in you they'll fight and die for you if they don't they're gonna quit look at our military right now with joe biden frailing around

it's a it's a travesty yeah i like that description it's falling flailing crumbling and falling at the same time it's frawling and this lack of charisma at least at least trump is charismatic whether you like him or not doesn't matter you can have high charisma and be unliked it doesn't mean people are gonna like you so this is also like oh sorry call for desantis to get in here and we all have to twit you know work on his personality a bit. Hell yes, dude. Let's talk about mushrooms, man. Let's get real.

We need to talk about things that people really care about. We talked about this a bit when he announced that I can't believe they looked at that announcement video that he posted on Twitter, and they were like, this is good. I can't believe they did not have someone at the level they're at. They're in second place right now in the Republican primary for the presidency of the United States. And they couldn't get someone to come and look at that video and be like, guys, you need more energy. Whatever you got to do to get more energy in there.

Have an eagle fly over. I don't know what it is. But Ron walking up and being like, freedom is worth fighting for was just watch Barack Obama announce. He did it. He's in front of all these people. He's got a huge crowd. And he does that thing where he pauses what he's saying very slowly and elevates his voice.

That's why I, Barack Obama, am announcing. And the crowd starts screaming. And there's all that energy. And you watch that video and you're like, wow. People are getting fired up. Then you go in the Twitter space and Ron's like, well, I'm here to lead the American comeback. And you're like, okay.

You know who was, Ronald Reagan was brilliant with visuals. Bill Clinton was brilliant with visuals. Ron DeSantis lost the simple rule of politics. Visuals are very important. He announced on Twitter, did we have any visuals? None.

Zero. You can never revisit that moment. Right, so you got one shot to announce, right? That one day. And he should have been in one of the counties that he did such a tremendous job in Florida. He's got a great story to tell. And he should have been with supporters, his family, his wife. It's up there.

And that would have been an amazing announcement. He could have gotten like a giant drone. You know those drones that people ride? The big ones? He could have landed. Look, I'm half kidding. But he could have done anything to'm half kidding but he could have done anything to generate spectacle to cause this man yeah right he's standing he's standing on like the

like a quadcopter as it lands and then he jumps off and walks to the podium from a huge crowd yeah exactly exactly i hate to be super so superficial but if you could pull up him smiling ron desantis has a horrible smile if if you seriously could he said he was sending out like emails of him smiling it's just like that's one of the biggest things like yeah somebody kind of looks like he's in pain they i don't think these are good smiles and um you know i don't know we are superficial people i disagree you don't think all right that's a really good smile on the right. Yeah, I think he's fine. That's the Ron I want to see on the right.

That's the one thing, you know what? I don't really see much of an issue with this. I bet when you meet him, he's probably a really cool guy. I bet he's like a really likable guy. You don't get to become governor if you're not. Well, Katie Hobbs is governor. Someone needs to take this picture right here. John Fetterman's a senator. Yeah, John Fetterman.

Yeah, that's true. Someone needs to take this and then animate him going super saiyan. Yeah. Yeah, Jon Favreau. Yeah, that's true. Someone needs to take this and then animate him going Super Saiyan. Yeah. Yeah, man. It's easy to throw stones from the sidelines, Ron. The deepfake thing for me is hard no. Unless he comes out and fires somebody, someone substantial, and says, we disavow this. Here's what's going to happen.

His PR people are going to say, don't address it at all. Don't say anything. Let it go away. It's unacceptable. So if he doesn't, I'm not going anywhere near. I will not support a campaign that intentionally is making fake images to lie. I can't. Look, man, I know it's politics. People lie. But this is a step beyond. It's one thing to mischaracterize. It's another thing like Trump posts these, people keep asking about Trump re-truthing that image where it's allegedly DeSantis with young girls. And he's trying to imply that DeSantis is like a pedo or a groom or whatever. And I'm like, yeah, that's very bad. I do not like those things.

Trump gets no credit for me from that. But Trump re-truthing someone and being a dick is very different from your campaign running an ad where you made fake images or where you have placed, I don't know who made them ad where you made fake images or where you have placed, I don't know who made them, but you placed fake images to smear someone. It is really concerning because you could deep fake Ron with getting a back

massage from his wife's sister and be like, it looks real. And then that sows division within his family. It's so dark, this path, man. Because this opens a Pandora's box, right? Are we going to have to live through this week after week after week? Yeah. So we can't. The technology is moving too fast. No one's going to back down.

So right now with the AI stuff, you've got people begging these companies to stop. We are going to die. You need to stop this. They can't stop. Because you get one company saying, guys, we'll do it right. But if we don't do it, the other company will. So no matter what you say, you've got 10 companies, 20, 30, 40, 50, all full steam ahead on launching this AI stuff. And no one will back down.

Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, who's like one of the companies leading the charge of AI, went on Lex Friedman's podcast and asked Lex to his face, should we open source this? And Lex went, no, I don't think so. And I was like, what in the hell are you guys talking about you're like supposed to be the thought leaders and you don't want it open because you're afraid that someone else is going to take it and make it make it better than you so you want to make it secret so that the ai takes over like what come on it was supposed to be open source that's what's called open ai it's called open and it's closed what the hell are you doing

sam well uh elon talked about that didn't he contribute a large sum of money? And then they took the money and then turned it into a private corporation? Oh my God, dude, it's cyber dying. This is like how the Terminator got built in Terminator 2, man. You take some proprietary AI company, it spins out of control, and then the machine goes rogue. So the way the AI destroys all of us is not the way people think it's going to be. It's not going to be Terminators being like, humans are the threat. It's going to be it's not going to be terminators being like humans are the threat it's going to be something ridiculous like there's that story where they

claimed and apparently it's not true they claimed that they programmed a drone they gave it an ai to fly and blow up certain targets and then it earned points when it when it hit the target in the simulation it could only attack the target if it got approval from the operator it then realized the operator saying no was detrimental to it getting points so it blew up the operator then they said okay blowing up the operator gives you minus points so it stopped doing that so then it blew up the communication towers apparently they say the story is not true or something about it is fabricated but the general concept of it is exactly what happens with ai and why it will go bad we will make an ai and we will ask you to do something simple we'll make finance ai and we'll be like

hey make these trade stocks so that we can um boost our 401k and you earn the ai earns points when people's returns improve what will end up happening is it will do something totally unexpected and weird to earn points like shorting a bunch of vital stocks destroying the economy and then one day people wake up and they have no savings but one guy's got 78 30 you know 365 trillion dollars in his account he doesn't know how and it's like i maximized my points then the system completely breaks because of it yeah or you reduce the population and then you have a relatively larger number of people that are wealthy so like yep be careful which is a monkey paw thing if we told an ai to do finance and we said your goal is to make as much money as possible for the people who have invested in these specific you know efts

or um you know these these ira whatever these stocks these this portfolio it will say if if we have one million people and one million dollars in the market each person gets one dollar if we eliminate half of those people everyone now has two dollars one of the strategies towards maximizing returns might be to literally destroy companies through finance that produce food and medicine so that people die resulting in more of the existing wealth the money may become worthless because there's no people to do work but all that matters is that number to the ai you hope that an ai is intelligent enough to know what collateral damage it could cause but i don't think anything is that perfect look at what happened

with youtube youtube said we we want to compete with netflix so we're going to make an algorithm that promotes long form videos that people watch for a longer amount of time they thought they would get game of thrones they say people watch game of thrones for an hour so we want content that's at least an hour that people will at least watch most most of what did they get they started getting one podcasts which is okay but they started getting a lot of really freaky content of random hitler dancing with the incredible holton and stuff like that spider-man getting one podcasts which is okay but they started getting a lot of really freaky content of rand of hitler dancing with the incredible holton and stuff like that spider-man and elsa doing gross 40 minutes yeah yeah injections a lot of a lot of injection porn i remember uh people yeah like not actual sexual porn is just people getting injections like that's a prime for the

whole covet narrative too that was crazy sorry well no no i was just saying that i know people i know people with kids who are like oh my gosh my daughter was watching youtube and this thing popped up basically instructing the child on how to do something like very violent and they're like what is going on and then i believe that's when youtube ended up enabling the kids mode so even that didn't change it there were a bunch of videos where the thumbnails were children it was cartoons of kids drinking out of urinals and toilets and eating feces and things like that the ai was making these things people people had ai programs that would auto generate it would make videos and upload them to youtube to get traffic and make money and then it would keep trying to maximize views and revenue and that's what made more money for it it's important to remember we're not just intelligence like it's part of how we make our decisions, but emotions is a huge

part and machines don't have emotions at this stage of development. I don't know if they ever really will, but you know what they're programmed by really emotional people. It's the thing, right? For now. Yeah. Yeah. Then they may start getting programmed by other AI with no emotions at all. But then those will like, because when you look at what chat GPT will and won't say, a lot of it's not logical, right? It's like based on somebody's emotional sensibilities. Then I'd like chat GPT program something, then it's programming that thing

based on the emotional sensibilities that were put into it. Like you gotta know when your orders are wrong. Yeah. When the orders are bad and you've gotta say no to the orders. You've gotta know that, but that's an emotional ability. I don i don't think that like you know obviously the logic dictates ripping human bodies open to study the heart will make us better at becoming heart doctors but that doesn't mean you want to rip human bodies open all the time but the study hearts the ai has no conscience

or moral framework so it will just say to better understand heart open human yeah unless if that's not programmed into it it'll just give it you just go there you know learn about hearts here's how you tear a person open do you guys at all think the any of this ai stuff is overhyped garbage that the media likes to scaremonger around not a little bit at all no i am i've been very reluctant i've been very reluctant to make predictions about it because of that i don't know i mean i think almost any prediction anyone makes about ai is going to age really poorly yeah the media i would say generally hasn't been talking much about it at all which is why i don't i don't feel like that i'm actually

scared because we talk about it and every time we talk about it have these contingencies of more possible i think the media talks about it a lot and then you have like these stories of like the godfather of ai saying that doom is near because of this. But I feel like we're calling it AI, but it's not exactly that. It's like a language model that is predicting the next word. So there's nothing inherently original or thoughtful in what it's producing. And like the pictures work by just mushing stuff together. So there's nothing again like truly original.

You're referring specifically to language models when i talk about when i talk about like earning points to develop models they have they have the dog robot that you've probably seen they programmed it to learn how to do its stuff on it like to learn how to walk on its own and then they left it in a room and just it just figured out how to eventually walk i think you're right that a lot of what we're calling artificial intelligence right now is large language models, LLM, large language models. And that Sam Altman was predicting that he's the CEO of OpenAI, that by September of this year, 2023, we will have our first general intelligence, which is where it can create more of it.

Yeah. And I'm fully willing to be wrong in the ways this will impact our economy and jobs is going to be crazy and interesting. And I don't know, maybe not fun to see, but. Well, look, I can already tell you, right? I can already tell you as somebody who like owns a business that creates and markets artistic products, like we do the cartoons for the YouTube channel. There's also clients we service.

There are ways that I can see this stuff really changing our industry. Absolutely. You could replace all the animators. Well, I wouldn't want hypothetically if it got to that point i think that's a possibility for a lot of studios or didn't you could end up didn't we already use mid journey to make freedom tunes no we tried it was it looked very weird but it was like but you could so here's the thing there are certain things and i attempted to do this i was using mid journey what is mid journey for people who don't oh sure it's it's uh probably the best available ai for generating images they look very realistic they are extremely compelling and highly intricate and you go to

their discord you sign up on the website then you go to discord you type backs or forward slash imagine and then it gives you a prompt and you can type in whatever you want and well and so i was curious i wanted to see like you know do a background in this animated art style or that animated art style and you end up with something that you know still looks a little wonky still looks a little bit off it's not perfect one thing i was thinking of in terms of practical application is you know maybe you could use something like this to just color your images in, right? So instead of drawing on the computer, then coloring, maybe you can actually go back to pencil and paper and do frame by frame and just put each image into your computer and

tell the AI, hey, like color this in, flesh it out. There are ways you can still be very involved in the artistic process and utilize AI potentially in the coming years. And I think that's sort of the ideal situation where you still have real artists making these things but they're able to make something so much more visually interesting and intricate because the computer technology is assisting using it as a tool yeah well and so i've mentioned this before what we do at freedom tunes would be literally impossible without computer animation right doing a hand-drawn like two to five minute

long video once a week sometimes three to four times a week it literally wouldn't be possible without computer animation and that also means that what i'm doing requires fewer animators than it would have required 15 years ago 20 years ago 30 years ago before this stuff was common so yeah it like it might limit the number of jobs but the people who have those jobs will probably be able to do a lot more it's an interesting perspective on it with how computers also help you make the cartoons and ai will help you do them in a different way potentially and if you can please the ai the ai will reward you like your viewers become ai itself and the more of the ai

you can impress the more you will be rewarded in the long run interest i mean well i i was just kind of kind of add that or ai wife well ai wife ai family well i mean well, I was just kind of add that. Or AI wife. Well, AI wife, AI family. Well, I mean, I was just going to say that people might look at the situation and they say, well, this guy's making several cartoons a week for his business and he's got a talented team of employees who he's working with on this. But if he was doing this 30 years ago, there could have been dozens or hundreds of people, many more people with jobs. No, no, no. was doing this 30 years ago there there could have been dozens or hundreds of people many more people with jobs no no if it was if it was 30 years ago it just wouldn't exist right it just wouldn't exist it wouldn't be possible so i think instead of seeing it as

something that's going to limit job potential it's important to also conceive of the fact that it's going to create industries like things will be possible that were not we're going to go to super chats so if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends and head over to Tim cast.com. Click join us because we're gonna have a members only uncensored show coming up for you in about a half an hour. And it's going to be fun and spicy. Don't bring the kids. All right. I'm not your buddy guy says as a Canadian, I find it rather offensive that you think our crazy lefties don't know how to use cell phones and yet think space lasers are just as likely. By the way, where did you get the laser idea from?

I never said it was likely that lasers started fires. I said it was actually practically impossible, but at least somewhat in the realm of possibilities. 140. 140 lefties all went to key locations hundreds of miles apart and then timed ignition of fires. That's just ridiculous. I'm sorry. It's not what happened. Could have been a controlled burn. And now they're saying there's 450 fires in Canada? Yeah. I'm sorry. It's cool. The satellite images,

you see how they all start, or a bunch of them start around the same moment? That's not true because you're watching a time lapse. See, this is the other thing people did. They took a time lapse video of several hours and then because the fires start within a few hours of each other not at the same time it looks like they all start at the same time that was me that brought up space lasers and it was that i thought it would be more likely that someone lit them with space lasers than that god itself lit the fire here's the other thing about that satellite imagery showing all the smoke it's actually at the fire starting the smoke is rising straight

up and you don't see it until the wind current pushes the smoke down so okay so the wind could have inflamed it and then you see it all at the same moment because that's when the winds came through if the currents are slow are are not moving very fast you won't see smoke spreading very far and then when the current comes in all the smoke moves at once and people like whoa all the fire started at once ian why is it more likely that it was started by a space laser than god because uh fires are natural like forest fires they happen all the time and there was a major lightning storm like why they happen all the time why we always got to blame somebody that's what we're talking about last night like the flood god did it like

why we gotta blame that guy's blamed on climate change yeah i was at a climate change protest today outside of the white house they were blaming like floods and this fire in particular um on climate change so yeah it's it's pretty wild and they're so smug in their certainty that this was caused by climate change let's just say let's say man-made catastrophic climate change is happening and the world is going to end in in 12 years and then 12 years from now you know you can say that all over again let's just say that that's the case and all that's true maybe one forest fire could actually not be climate change right like it's but it's everything change itself doesn't do things it's what is the thing that happened that is a change and then talk about the thing itself then that could have caused it but change it climate change is not like a a cause

it's interesting what's changing let's read some more we got raymond g stanley jr he says tim i also think a part that plays into the more conservative poll numbers are people like myself 2019 i wasn't a politico whereas today i'm all bouty bouty that forward the line stance here here so uh gallup shows that all age groups have shifted more conservative. The big shift, I think the big shift is 30 to 44, but there is a prominent shift 18 to 29 towards conservative to a certain degree. And now more people in the U.S. identify as conservative than anything else. Well, it's interesting, though, because what it means to be conservative has changed so

much, right? else well it's interesting though because what it means to be conservative has changed so much right so 10 15 years ago uh knowing the differences between boys and girls just made you a mentally competent adult and if you couldn't answer the question what is a woman people would assume that you weren't fit to function in society nowadays if you do know the answer to that question you're not only conservative you're a far-right extremist i just hate communists yeah you know communism is very bad i hate the ideology sometimes communists can be pretty cool actually that's a fair point i tell the story a lot there was a guy i met in berkeley who had the sickle and hammer and he was had books that he was like giving books out and stuff and talking to people wearing a mask and i walked up to him and i was just like what do you

think about antifa and he was like what do you mean and i was like those guys over there they're beating people and he's like that's wrong they shouldn't do that and i was like i agree and i shook his hand and he was like he's like my ideas are about how we all live together peacefully and no one should be attacking anybody else and i'm like i i preferred they agreed with you a rare noble communist yeah i think he's a few in between yeah this is not a it's not a political government it's not a functional government structure it's it's cool in a family it's a ponzi scheme well but even that though like because people say that but really what communists are doing is they're they're taking behavior that's like appropriate at the family level and then they're saying let's destroy the family and have the government do this instead

what yeah i gotta read this one it's it seemingly starts off silly but i think it's really mean but i'm gonna read it anyway mark giadetti says i thought elad changed his name to john bolton jr ian is neither a wizard or a shaman he is just an egotistical sophist i mean you see what you are you know uh but uh is it the mustache that makes people think you're like john bolton because it is a beautiful must i also say i like uh how trump bombed sulaimani and stuff like that so yeah john blank and you say those things and the drone strikes earlier i don't know should obama have been indicted for it anyway yeah john blank and chip says what if one of the bribes biden received was the corvette t-rex pet shop says has anybody else noticed that many other huge companies like family dollar

didn't even put out their pride stuff this year maybe they're scared of the backlash keep up the pressure especially on woke pet stores like pet smart chewy and petco just shop at t-rex pet shop instead much better options they uh anybody and you know what just we got to tell the public square guys to just make like a list of companies that have publicly publicly said communism is not good just very tough it is not okay to be a communist can we can we print those out yeah it is not okay to be communist but a community is everything communism is wrong communism is wrong if you do that the media report far right extremists everywhere communism no you know and i'm not a shaman or a

wizard either that's true good point i'm just a guy you know i left miami i'm heading up to new york i don't know how inundated i'm gonna be with pride once i stroll into new york city when you breathe in the air you will become every store rockefeller store all the flags are pride flags now it's supposed to be the flags of the world or whatever. You know, when I first moved to the village, it was Pride Day at the end of June. Now they have to have 30 days. The whole month. And it seems like it's every month.

I just want to know what people are proud for. That's what I care about. Here's a good one. Jason Hutchinson says, if we're locking up former presidents, I've got a list. Exactly. Exactly. Leon Yoder says, Vivek Ramaswamy just tweeted that he would pardon Trump if elected.

This double standard of justice is going to destroy our society. I applaud Vivek for doing this and hope all of the Republican candidates follow his lead. I think if there is a debate, it's going to be Trump and Vivek. That's it. Nobody else on stage will matter. Vivek knows what people want to hear, and he will tell them it.

You don't trust him? That's all I have to say. I mean, I don't trust anybody, but you don't believe him? I think he is tapped in closely, and when he thinks he could say something to help advance his space in the MAGA subcategory that I think he's going after, then he goes for it. But I disagree in the sense that I do think he knows what people want to hear, but I that i think he's going after then he goes for it but i i i disagree in the sense that i do think he knows what people want to hear but i don't think that's his motivation he's he's he sat down with me and he said there should be some kind of civic requirement for

voting and i'm like that's a bold thing to say because that's like that's that causes damage politically among younger voters he was like we got to do it something cynical about me just sees him as an opportunist i don't know why he is you know he'll change his thoughts he was a ceo he did a lot of business stuff and then he wrote a book about being anti-woke and everything and the reason why they came to him and said you need to put up a picture on your instagram or whatever with the black square because of george floyd and he was like oh okay sure i guess then they came to him and they said no we want you to write a statement where the company supports this and he was like oh all right i guess and then he wrote something where he said i hope this country can heal and come together and we stop fighting and they came to him and said that wasn't good enough you need to do better

or else and he was like i don't know what you want me to do then he started getting attacked by woke people then his friends started calling him out saying he was a fascist or something then people actually resigned and i think he got so angry that a fire lit, like within him. And he was like, I will destroy you. And I think he is deeply, deeply angry at these people for being so crazy. But I think he's a calm, strategic, collected guy. So he's not just rampaging around screaming. He's like straightening his tie, putting a suit on and being like, you messed with the wrong guy.

I think it's commendable that he was willing to fight back. But the fact that he's running for president, he's not doing it as a serious way to win he's doing it as a way to up his public profile in my opinion i don't think he thinks he's a serious candidate and if he did want to win something he'd run for lower office first in my opinion because a lot of people run just for the press and i think he's kind of like a right-wing version of yang in i think i think he's running to put ESG on the debate stage. I think I told him this. I was like, I don't think you're going to win.

I would support you. I think he hits the nail on the head with so many of these issues. He's sitting here and he's just like, I'm gonna get in trouble for saying this, but I think about it. And it's we got to have some kind of standard and civic standard for voting. People just can't be told anybody can vote. And then he came out and said 18 to 26 has to pass a civics test which like triggered all these gen z people and i'm like that's not you don't you don't say those things i respect that he said that i think i don't

think he expects to win you know maybe it's unfair to say maybe he really is trying but i i think he's a smart guy who knows the best he can do is get on stage and say to the world esg is destroying us we must stop it absolutely and we'll see maybe he gets a cabinet position we'll see or not i mean if the best case scenario is he goes on debate stage and says no more esg i'll take it getting back to what tonight with the republicans should do because when bill clinton was uh impeached in 92 he had a rally in the Rose Garden with all Democrats and his supporters. Wouldn't it be nice if the Republicans

rallied behind Trump tonight? They never do on the Republican-Conservative side. They never rally on each other. Well, Vivek said he'll pardon Trump, so at least he did. I respect it. Iggy the Incubus says, Speaking of corrupt presidents, I recommend Razor Fist's video, Abraham Lincoln,

American Dictator. Oh, Abraham Lincoln, American dictator. Oh, Abraham Lincoln's got a lot of bad stuff under his belt. The suspension of habeas corpus in the corridor stretching from the south up to Pennsylvania through Maryland. What did they do? They went and arrested a bunch of the Maryland state legislature because they were sympathetic to the south. Jeez. Yeah, some nasty stuff. What was it?

You should indict him, too. Dig up his corpse like they did with some nasty stuff was it you should indict him too dig up his corpse like they did with that post but look here's here's the here's the moral challenge for classical liberals the classical liberal position the deontological position is that abraham lincoln did wrong the utilitarian and the moralist position is slavery needed to be stopped and preserving this country was a good thing the outcome was undeniably good in a lot of ways i don't think the outcome after the civil war was was universally good i mean sherman's march march to the sea was was horrifying and monstrous and a lot and reconstruction was disastrous too but slavery was just so much worse than than so much so it's a tough question do you think

abraham lincoln was a tyrant i think there's a lot of bad things he did i think unquestionably bad things but the outcome man i i am not in my current present life a utilitarian the ends don't justify the means but then you look back at the bad things abraham lincoln did and the end result being the abolition of slavery in the 14th amendment and things that have genuinely protected people and expanded civil rights it's like he was certainly tyrannical tyrants aren't always bad you have good tyrants as well a tyrant just means that it's an absolute ruler that's unrestrained by law or constitution is that true i thought that um i thought that like tyranny is basically just what you call it when a kingdom goes bad like tyrant means a bad king in the same way that oligarchy

means a bad aristocracy, and democracy means a non-populist. That's how the terms are classically defined. The guy that put Athens on the map was a tyrant. He walked into the city and was like, I have Athena with me. Bow to me. And they all did. And then he turned Athens into the greatest trade hub on Earth, and he was known as this really great

ruler, very benevolent. Interesting. So I remember, again, this is what I learned in school and i went to public schools i'll take it with a grain of salt but what we learned was that these terms were basically like tyranny um and oligarchy and actually even democracy were originally pejoratives to refer to different systems when they went wrong so um yeah tyranny is what you call it when when a king becomes bad and then like oligarchies when you call it when an aristocracy i guess that could again this is what i remember learning in public school like the case study is abe lincoln like he he was a tyrant but he did good you could argue he did good anyway you could or you could argue he did some good but then you

could also argue he could have done that good without the tyranny arguably any wartime president is a tyrant in any political system so that's kind of that's where we're kind of going with it then it's that's that's a really good point i bring up we we like to talk about all these great civil liberties we talk about liberal classical liberalism and i'm like all those things disappear the moment a bomb drops because ain't nobody is going to be like you're allowed to say all of these things they're going to be like my children are in danger get out of these things. They're going to be like, my children are in danger. Get out of my way.

That's just it. Survival becomes everything. All right. What do we got? Tyler Brayton says, even in prison, Trump can still run for president. If he wins, he can pardon himself. Yes. Wouldn't that be hilarious if that's what actually happens?

He's in federal prison, wins, and then he's like, give me the papers, signs it, and they open the door. That'd be so weird. Where we at? Thomas TJG says politicians, bureaucracy, military, and agencies are corrupt because we never held them accountable. If you break the law at any level, you should be held to two times the punishment because they know better. I agree. If you work in government and break the law there should be special penalties i think that's effectively how it works for uh people in the military because you have military

and civilian criminal criminal procedures i'm pretty sure i could be like a military tribunal yeah like if you're if you're in the army and then you go off base and like rob a liquor store you get military court and you get civilian court. So it's like double. So don't do that. All right, don't commit crimes. Unless the crimes are really, really horrible, like what the Nazis made illegal. Then you're supposed to commit a crime against the Nazi regime.

You're saying stop evil people. Yeah, law is not equated to good. Media matters take that. I was like, Ian, wait, what? Thanks for letting me explain myself. Well, there are other shows where everyone on that there are other shows where people would have jumped on you before you could finish there have been way too many instances of history where people made something illegal that was good or made something helping and legal that was evil you know helping and frank was illegal yes you should break the law to help

and yes in that instance yes that is my opinion That was what the point you were trying to make was. Yeah, the law is not morality. Where are we at? Ryan Grisaf says, someone please clean the microphone filters after this stream. It's bugging me. Amen, brother. I got dust for days. I got like two years worth of dust on this one.

Where's that lint roller? It's in there. I think these need to be opened up and cleaned once every couple years or something. We just buy new heads. We'll just take this thing right here and some ASMR. Look at that. There you go. Thanks, man.

I'll do it once we're muted after the show's over. And now I've got to throw this thing away. ASMR rubbing the all right let's get back to reading stuff holy crap he died says here in missouri we just banned child sex changes and ended state-funded adult sex changes we also made it we also made it so school children must play sports uh on team must play on sports teams that match the sex on their birth certificate otherwise schools can potentially lose their funding very interesting the birth certificate stuff there's still a lot of challenge that we have to overcome as it relates to all that we haven't solved it but i

do believe there's a lot of good strides being made good uh good changes are coming all right dreg tk says please help great texas teacher was in a car wreck while in the hospital their apartment was robbed wanted to get them some help love you cast crew thanks but who is the teacher we have no information sir i don't know how do we help all right well where are we at where are we at let's grab some more super jets mr big mr bg sorry says these people will put trump in prison he is acting like this is still a cnn fake game, and he'll just be impeached, but nothing will happen. They are communists. This indictment removes him from the ballot in multiple states.

Does it really? Someone look that up. Does being indicted remove you from the ballot in multiple states? This is the game they are playing. People will have to write him in. But a lot of people will just check desantis you know and if maybe the goal is to get him off the ballots in prime in the primaries that desantis wins that's what matters more than the general of blue state's gonna vote blue yeah no says no desantis first he says he won't run against trump then the man

sits by and says he won't intervene if trump is indicted then the man signs hb 269 then launches his campaign with minus five to charisma then he does this aibs a lot of bad stuff a lot of bad stuff disappointing very disappointing but leah says i think the indictment is evidence they want trump to be the nominee do they think they can beat him in 2024? They said it on The View. On The View, they were like, we want Trump to be the nominee. We don't want DeSantis to win. They think Trump will lose.

They said that in 2016, though. Right. And they're wrong now because what helped them in 2020 was COVID lockdowns. And that was Trump's fault. A lot of it was not all of it, but a lot of it was. And people are like, what was he supposed to do about Fauci? He couldn't fire Fauci's bureaucracy. He's is like he could have sidelined him easily he could have he could have assigned him to go work somewhere nonsensical didn't need to be at every press conference on

camera could have just told him to go chill in the closet somewhere yep he could have said i need you to fill out these forms down in the basement oh we're doing a press conference come later you i don't want you on any camera any public facing position stick in your lab and stay there but him and deborah burks were just at every presser instead he hugs him and kissed him on the nose smoky bone says forget trump and de sandas tim scott is the best we've got tim scott actually is pretty awesome but uh he doesn't reach that level i'm not sure although Although a Trump-Scott ticket, what if Scott's the VP? I think that'd be pretty cool actually.

I just saw Tim Scott on The View. It was amazing. Yeah, I thought so too. It was absolutely amazing. That dude is fantastic. So what do you think about Tim Scott? I think he's a calming presence for the president. Right.

He needs it. Yep. Was Tim Scott the guy who wrote the op-ed in the New York Times about needing to send in the guards? No, that wasn't. That was Cotton. Cotton.

Never mind. Yeah. Tim Scott is South Carolina. South Carolina. Yeah. Yeah. He's great. Yeah.

Yeah. He's good. He's good. He's a good dude. And he went on The View and he talked about he nailed it. He said, you guys are telling these young black kids that they can't succeed that unless they're the exception to the rule. He's like, no, you can't say you can't tell these kids that you got to tell them to work hard and they can be successful. He's completely right. And then they kept saying, you're the exception to the rule. He's like, no, you can't tell these kids.

You got to tell them to work hard and they can be successful. He's completely right. And then they kept saying, you're the exception. You're the exception. He's like, what do you mean? Like, I worked hard. You're telling him he doesn't deserve to be there. Exactly, because what you're saying to a person in that situation is,

you just got lucky. Not like you worked really hard, not you earned this. You just got lucky. Yeah, that's not's that that is that's not cool man was he appointed to the senate by nikki haley because he was black or was he appointed because he was awesome i think he's right i guess nikki could answer that question i think he's a good dude they seem pretty cool yep i think it would be a great ticket yeah trump trump scott he'd be a good dude some people have mentioned that's why he's fairly

neutral and he's announcing he's getting name recognition and then might you know go that route but that'd be good two first names i like it oh three first names timothy eugene scott whoa i'm a big on i'm bullish on people with multiple first names yeah uh just just to answer you tim it doesn't disqualify him according to time uh if he's indicted it doesn't disqualify him from running for the election just so you know but does it remove his name from the state's ballot i couldn't see that couldn't find it yeah what they said was it removes his name from the ballots right and if the republicans let's say they got five eight percent more african-american vote the democratic party's toast yeah it's true toast yeah and we saw this uh a couple years ago i think it

was 2019 they said that uh black men are shifting towards the republican party they are yeah and you see those viral videos where there's like young black men talking about how trump's the guy right and they're and he's got street cred they like him beautiful bacon says trump literally is a dj his name is dj trump he was merely living up to his namesake oh my gosh dude you got to make that shameless dj trump in the house and trump jr is dj trump too that literally has to be a slogan dj trump in the house but it's the white house and it's a picture of that that's something that sounds like a sitcom that would be a really good show it's about a guy who's a dj and then he has to move into the white house because he got beat up in his neighborhood back in

Washington State. Is this just the Fresh Prince? But Trump. And Trump was done with South Florida. Now he has to go back on Tuesday to Miami. Sergeant Buck says it wouldn't shock me if whoever edited that vid had no idea how to recognize an AI generated image and just typed Trump

and Fauci into Google Images. That's another possibility too. That's why I'm like when the people immediately come out and they're like we're allowed to do it because Trump posted a rhinoceros. They could have been like it was an error. We googled the image and just put him in. You know what? I'm going to look up.

That's incompetent then. Better than malicious? Yeah, I guess so, but still very bad. I bet they're going to try to ignore it. I'm going to look up. I don't think you could just yeah i don't think desantis that's what i'm calling him from now on deep fake desantis trump should steal that from you old deep faking desantis over here you know i'm looking at pictures of trump and there's some really good birthdays on the wednesday he had an event, a big fundraising event on Tuesday the 13th

at Bedminster and now he has to go to Miami for this indictment. Oh, next Wednesday's his birthday? Next Wednesday's his birthday. Tuesday was a big event in Bedminster for the president

for his birthday. But Wednesday now he's being summoned to turn himself in. I wonder if they're planning on announcing it on his birthday. Like this all seems so personal. Yeah. Scott Jeffresserson says what's your opinion on the pick of de santa's

drinking with young girls was that fake was it shared by the trump camp i'm not simping for ron i'm all in for trump 24 just asking your opinion i think when that came out we criticized trump for doing it we like all groaned and rolled our eyes and said it was it was gross or something and then we were just like you shouldn't do that stuff but trump is kind of a dick like we know this he's he's like he's crass in that way and someone posting a photo uh that is that is either like not real or a meme or insulting and then trump reposting it being like haha you're dumb is very very different from a campaign ad that uses fake images they're they're bad don't get me wrong i'm not going to defend trump for doing that we we groaned and we rolled our eyes but like this is a whole new level using deep fake images. They're bad. Don't get me wrong. I'm not going to defend Trump for doing that. We groaned and we rolled our eyes, but this is a whole new level.

Using deep fake images to smear someone in a political attack ad. Crazy. So it was DeSantis as a teacher allegedly partying with high school girls. Just to be clear of what the photo was. It was what? It was Ron DeSantis

as a teacher allegedly partying with high school girls but is it real was it it was like according to daily mail yeah what did they say he would never do such a thing can you spin your real real pic um we might need to read through a post photo of ron desantis as a teacher allegedly partying with high school girls yeah so the women could be college girls we don't know yeah was he single then um yeah but i guess what would be creepy as a teacher with the high school but we need a i need to dig deeper i don't want to say the wrong thing about gnarly marley's as i mentioned wanting coverage of the ai photo story in a daily wire comment earlier and the backlash was extreme some don't care some don't believe it or made excuses. Some just bashed you as a Democrat. I was rather shocked. Yeah, it's culty.

Very culty. It's weird how insanely culty it is. And it's really off-putting. Let's grab some more superchits. Grab it by the balls. Just to follow up on that, I'm sorry. It says neither post contains evidence that the girls pictured were underaged or establishes that anyone photographed was illegally consuming alcohol daily mail has not been able to verify um the

people in the photo so rundell schmidt says trump is not pro-choice seamus he was the first president to ever speak at the pro-life march thank you guys for doing great work tim thanks for helping people financially no i i so trump's and this is part of the thing is Elad was asking this earlier. Like, how could you pick Trump and, you know, over to Santhus? And like,

my broader point is when it comes time to vote in the primaries, I'm going to vote for who's most pro-life at that time. I hope that that is Trump. Cause I think he's a stronger candidate overall. But what I will say is when he, what he did achieve many wonderful things for the pro-life movement. But when he does things like attack DeSantis the six-week abortion ban and call it cruel it is very off putting for me uh the other side of that is trump does just kind of say things i think it's a very

responsible thing to say i wish he didn't say it i hope he doesn't believe it we'll see how his positions end up shaking out as the campaign goes on i hope he adopts a hardcore pro-life position i absolutely hope uh he's not you know gonna stick with this or like officially adopt this position that a six-week abortion ban is bad you say you vote for the pro-life candidate do you mean because you like them both you're gonna go for the one or if there's someone just a snake that was pro-life and a really good person who was more for a boat or like not pro-life. Why would you trust the snakes actually pro-life? Like if it was just someone who's like, we want to go to war in the Middle East,

we want to conquer, we want to destroy, but I'm in a super pro-life, would you go for that guy over? If it's a choice between a war with the Middle East and a war with the unborn, I say neither, but I'm going to vote for the most pro-life possible candidate. Even if they're like a dark, evil person? I think it's an interesting question, but like overall, my overall my principle is pro-life yeah that is the most important thing

that we had to get done with trump did because of the judges it's back in the states yeah no exactly and so that's what i'm saying i think trump exactly and so i think and this is why i praise trump for that i think that there were massive pro-life victories that happened because of trump because of his appointments i think there's a good argument to be made that he was the most pro-life president we've ever had. I mean, I'm definitely not dogging on him overall. All right, everybody, it's time for the members only show. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. If you really do like it and you think we do a good job or that

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